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00:00:07.000 It is already August 1st.

00:00:30.000 We've got about 52 minutes left in this live broadcast today.

00:00:39.000 And with us is Bob Chapman, TheInternationalForecaster.com.

00:00:42.000 He joins us at least once a week.

00:00:44.000 And here at the end of the week, I want to chronicle some of the things that we've seen happen in the markets.

00:00:51.000 I want to go over what we're seeing with gold and oil.

00:00:53.000 And also, I talked to Bob a few days ago, and he said, you know, the more I look at this Lindsay Williams thing, we think Lindsay Williams is a great guy.

00:01:00.000 He's put out good info in the past, means what he's saying, believes what he's saying.

00:01:04.000 We believe he was told this by this executive.

00:01:06.000 But there's just some other problems with that.

00:01:11.000 We don't know if they're trying to plant disinfo on him or if this executive believes it.

00:01:15.000 But somebody's threatening your family and saying we're going to get you if you don't shut up.

00:01:18.000 But by the way, we'll let you go out and talk about this.

00:01:22.000 When his video has been number one on Google, one of his interviews, one of the speeches he gave, tens of millions watching it every month, I mean it did become a phenomenon and I do believe he was threatened.

00:01:32.000 It's just that in the mechanics of the energy, the global energy market, exploration, delivering to market, it just doesn't line up with the facts in a lot of different places.

00:01:45.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:46.000 Also, I don't know if Bob Chapman's aware of this, but he's usually just as aware of the current news as I am, or more so.

00:01:51.000 But we broke yesterday here.

00:01:54.000 I mean, it came out on ThinkProgress, but we really pushed it out on Infowars.com.

00:01:57.000 We now have a more detailed article on Infowars.com.

00:02:00.000 We want everybody to get out to the four winds.

00:02:02.000 Cheney neocons considered killing Americans in pretext to attack Iran in a video posted here, YouTube, taped at the Campus Progress Journalism Conference earlier this month.

00:02:14.000 The Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, Seymour Hersh, revealed how the neocons convened around Dick Cheney and brainstormed ways to kick off World War IV, as they finally call their pet project.

00:02:27.000 Start a war in the Middle East and Central Asia. 0.99

00:02:29.000 And he went on to say they wanted to create boats, build boats and shipyards in just a few weeks that look like the same blue PT boats the Iranians use to patrol their waters.

00:02:39.000 Have Navy SEALs dress up, go in with a bunch of arms, and then attack.

00:02:43.000 It says a shootout, that means both sides, against our destroyers saying it was Iranians that maybe killed the SEALs.

00:02:50.000 And Cy Hirsch just said, you know, the newspaper didn't want to post that, you know, because they didn't carry it out.

00:02:56.000 But they did.

00:02:57.000 Our source in the White House did say this was among 11 other, 12 total, plans they had.

00:03:03.000 Now, we know they've done stuff like this before.

00:03:05.000 The White House memo, other things.

00:03:06.000 This is smoking gun stuff, especially Cy Hirsch.

00:03:09.000 I mean, he's never lied.

00:03:10.000 He's always been right.

00:03:11.000 He's always had inside scoop.

00:03:13.000 Almost to the point, it's like he represents an element of the New World Order.

00:03:17.000 I mean, it's the New Yorker magazine.

00:03:19.000 And he's allowed to do this.

00:03:21.000 So, and he has these incredible sources going back to Vietnam.

00:03:24.000 He broke Operation Phoenix, and they were torturing people to death, and their kids in front of the parents, and using the former zoo in Saigon to torture people, and you know, all this.

00:03:33.000 He's just broken hundreds of things.

00:03:35.000 Pulitzer Prize winner.

00:03:36.000 Probably the greatest living investigative journalist out there.

00:03:38.000 Bob, let's cover this first.

00:03:40.000 A, were you aware of this?

00:03:42.000 And B, you know I don't make stuff up, so I've told you about it.

00:03:44.000 What's your take regardless?

00:03:47.000 First of all, I knew about it and picked it up the same way you did.

00:03:52.000 And these kind of operations have been going on for years.

00:03:57.000 It's just they haven't been as aggressive and blatant as they have in the last eight years.

00:04:03.000 The means to an end sort of thing in order to achieve some financial or political objective.

00:04:12.000 And there are people in government who are very interested in enriching themselves as well as putting forth a program that that pursues their aims.

00:04:24.000 So I'm not surprised at all.

00:04:26.000 And, you know, there was a time when they backed off doing that during the 50s and the 60s.

00:04:34.000 And the Russians during the Cold War did too.

00:04:36.000 They had an agreement.

00:04:37.000 You know, we won't kill your people if you don't kill ours. 1.00

00:04:40.000 And this lasted quite a long while, but when we got into Vietnam and we did what we did, things started to evolve from that that were extremely negative.

00:04:52.000 Things like what you've just brought up, and we saw the Iran-Contra affair, the smuggling of massive amounts of illegal drugs into the United States by the participants, and today we get these kinds of one of twelve possible scenarios to get us involved in World War 4.

00:05:14.000 It is truly believable if you have looked at things the way that Alex and I have.

00:05:23.000 Keep talking about that.

00:05:24.000 I mean, keep fleshing this out.

00:05:26.000 For me, Bob, this is a huge deal.

00:05:29.000 I mean, this is a huge issue to have the New Yorker deciding to not run with the story, not because it wasn't accurate, but because, well, they didn't carry out these staged terror attacks.

00:05:40.000 I mean, the fact that the Vice President was proposing this, this is huge.

00:05:45.000 I mean, even considering it is monstrous. 0.99

00:05:50.000 I mean, the man has to be demented.

00:05:53.000 And, you know, the other side of the Illuminist coin is the big new Brzezinski saying, I mean, these guys, they're trolleys off.

00:06:03.000 I mean, they've just set the New World Order back 30 years.

00:06:07.000 We've got to take them out of power.

00:06:08.000 They can't do those things.

00:06:11.000 And he said the same thing again here just a few weeks ago, which I quoted him in the issue that came out yesterday.

00:06:18.000 And I have to agree with him.

00:06:20.000 I mean, he's the enemy as far as I'm concerned, but these guys in the White House? 1.00

00:06:25.000 They're not only the enemy, they're crazy! 0.99

00:06:30.000 So, what do we do about this, Bob? 0.96

00:06:32.000 I mean, how do we educate the public and show them that we have smoking gun evidence here, and then...

00:06:38.000 Even our own movement has gotten so trained to accept these crimes by these individuals that it's kind of like, oh, um, I mean, Neocons write editorials saying we need giant terror attacks in America.

00:06:49.000 9-11 was great for us in the Philadelphia Daily News.

00:06:53.000 We have Gary Hart, who wrote up the CFR plan for the Homeland Security System, who's definitely one of them, saying, oh yeah, we stage terror attacks in open letters. 0.99

00:07:01.000 I mean, these bastards are getting really arrogant here. 0.99

00:07:04.000 Why are they doing that? 1.00

00:07:06.000 Well, I think that they're close to and pushing toward total government, at least in their minds and eyes.

00:07:13.000 And they see it as a culmination of hundreds of years of attempting to bring about a world government.

00:07:21.000 And they think they're getting very close.

00:07:23.000 On the other hand, Brzezinski says, you guys are missing the point here.

00:07:28.000 We're not getting close.

00:07:30.000 We've been stopped at the pass.

00:07:32.000 And there's serious, serious problems.

00:07:34.000 In what we're trying to do, and we're very, very concerned that this whole thing may fall apart on us.

00:07:41.000 So, you've got two groups of thinking, one sane and one not sane.

00:07:48.000 And, you know, how do you do something about it?

00:07:52.000 We're doing everything we can by being on the air and publishing.

00:07:57.000 You know, I had an email the other day, not pertaining to this sort of thing, but I call a gentleman up, because I call everybody up who asks me to, and he said it would be a great idea if we had a million or two million people march on Washington regarding the Federal Reserve. 0.90

00:08:16.000 Well, if we all feel strongly enough about this incident that Cheney and his gang of murderers and torturers and rapists uh...

00:08:28.000 are going to do these kind of programs or why don't we get a million people to walk a walk a walk a walk a walk have a walk march on washington and tell a lot of about this anymore bob why do you think so many people see themselves as quote conservatives just say a tortures good rates good murders good new come all

00:08:52.000 They don't understand that once you dehumanize the Iraqis or anybody else, that you've built a government and an elite that will do that right back at home to you.

00:09:01.000 They've dehumanized themselves.

00:09:04.000 There's no justification for those kinds of thoughts, those kinds of actions.

00:09:12.000 I know that sometimes you are forced to go to war, but Most of the wars that we've had have been unavoidable.

00:09:21.000 They're usually caused by either financial or political interests, such as the Second World War.

00:09:28.000 Everybody who's read knows it was a setup on both Japan as well as in Europe.

00:09:36.000 And so people have got to think about not allowing this to happen.

00:09:42.000 And it has nothing to do with conservatives who Believe in that sort of thing.

00:09:48.000 It has something to do with everybody who believes in that sort of thing.

00:09:54.000 And, you know, what's been very, very encouraging, and I talked this over with Tony Hilda not too long ago, is that we've had a movement of people from the right to the center and from the left to the center, so to speak.

00:10:09.000 And it's the most important thing that's happened in the last ten years in America.

00:10:14.000 Because now we're talking with and coordinating with people who have the same desires that we have and there's no political label on it.

00:10:27.000 And so if conservative Republicans, in quotes, think that those are good things, they should rethink it and maybe they should think about not being conservative Republicans anymore because what they're thinking of are allowing to happen is just morally wrong.

00:10:48.000 Well, it is, and they're not exempt from all of this, too.

00:10:51.000 I think it's a decadence, a disconnection from reality.

00:10:54.000 They haven't really lived, they haven't seen the dark side that Cheney likes to talk about, so they think it's cute and funny and macho. 0.80

00:10:59.000 No, being a thug, supporting evil, supporting killing innocents, is not tough and macho.

00:11:04.000 What's tough and macho is standing up for the weak, being strong, having a higher moral compass than those around you.

00:11:11.000 And, you know, Take the left.

00:11:12.000 They're not calling themselves the left anymore.

00:11:14.000 I had former Congressman Dan Hamburg on, who always thought of himself as a liberal, and he said, look, you know, I'm into the Second Amendment now.

00:11:20.000 Now I totally understand it.

00:11:22.000 I know it's both parties.

00:11:23.000 I know we need to be armed.

00:11:25.000 And all the liberals I know are off buying AK-47s.

00:11:29.000 And they finally get it.

00:11:30.000 I mean, I have to commend the left.

00:11:32.000 I mean, are you seeing the same thing I'm seeing, Bob?

00:11:34.000 You know, up until eight years ago, about 80% of my subscribers were conservatives.

00:11:42.000 Today it's 50-50 and we've got ex-Marxists, Leninists, Socialists, you name it, and I'm happy to have them.

00:11:50.000 Yeah, they're finally figuring out the double game.

00:11:52.000 The New World Order owns both sides of the coin.

00:11:54.000 We'll be right back with Bob Chapman to talk about the $50 a barrel oil story from Lindsey Williams.

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00:16:46.000 And we like Lindsey Williams. 0.99

00:16:47.000 We think he's a great guy.

00:16:48.000 We were talking privately, I think, yesterday.

00:16:50.000 We both have misgivings on the same issues.

00:16:53.000 The story just has problems with it.

00:16:55.000 We believe what he's saying.

00:16:56.000 We believe he believes what he's saying.

00:16:58.000 But this issue of we're going to be paying $50 a gallon a barrel gas and going to be paying $2 a gallon in the next year, it just doesn't fit with a lot of the data and input that we have.

00:17:10.000 I think first you've got to look at the fact that ARCO has been part of BP for some time.

00:17:20.000 Most of those people are retired.

00:17:22.000 I don't know that they're in touch or not.

00:17:24.000 It's just a question.

00:17:28.000 The occurrence of major fields, such as in Indonesia, first of all, it would take at least two years for it to get online if it was earthbound, so to speak.

00:17:40.000 Indonesia is importing oil presently.

00:17:44.000 I know that surprises people, but that's true.

00:17:48.000 And they're a member of OPEC, and although they have recently, at least for the time being, bowed out, not knowing that they have another field, so to speak.

00:17:58.000 And I don't really think that the government need Indonesia, the important people in that country, could not know about some field that was waiting to be developed.

00:18:10.000 As far as the Russians are concerned, they're not going to do anything the New World Order tells them to.

00:18:14.000 They're going to do what they want to do, and it'll take seven years in the Arctic If they are drilling deeply in water to bring about production.

00:18:25.000 Now that's a good point.

00:18:27.000 These wells are hard to drill on dry land when you're talking 30,000, 40,000 feet.

00:18:33.000 Well, that's correct.

00:18:34.000 And I don't believe that there is such fields.

00:18:42.000 They may find them, but I don't think that they've found them yet.

00:18:46.000 It's possible, but it's not probable.

00:18:50.000 And so, why would Russia want to overproduce, or Indonesia, to drive prices down and let somebody put a gun to their head?

00:18:58.000 And, you know, I worked against the Russians. 1.00

00:19:00.000 You don't put a gun to their head. 0.53

00:19:01.000 They shoot back.

00:19:02.000 And they're quite good at it, quite frankly.

00:19:05.000 Just ask any German to survive World War II. 0.91

00:19:08.000 I mean, the kill ratio might have been 20 to 1 against the Russians, but they kept right on coming. 1.00

00:19:13.000 They got a lot of guts, and they're not stupid. 0.96

00:19:16.000 Also, you know, the major oil companies are heavily invested in this ethanol thing. 0.70

00:19:26.000 And if the price of gasoline and oil go down, it's going to really raise havoc with their investments.

00:19:33.000 And so, I also think that $50 oil is possible, but we would have to have a very deep recession and depression.

00:19:45.000 To have that happen, and particularly depression.

00:19:48.000 Because during... The nation would have to come to a complete... Hyperinflation.

00:19:52.000 We'd have the opposite, and then after it totally imploded, if the entire economy ended, flatlined, then you might see oil drop because nobody could buy it.

00:19:52.000 Exactly.

00:20:02.000 Yes, that's true.

00:20:03.000 And also, I see a very, very bottom line of Of $80 a barrel over the next two years, and in all probability, it's more likely it'll be $100 to $120 a barrel because every nation in the world is inflating their money supply, money and credit.

00:20:23.000 The average is plus 8 to 14% a year.

00:20:26.000 Inflation is raging.

00:20:28.000 It's raging.

00:20:29.000 It's just that people know it, but there's no verification unless you listen to this program and a few other like it or read my publication.

00:20:38.000 And So, it's very difficult for oil over the next year, let's say.

00:20:44.000 To drop to $50 a barrel when the cost of everything else is going up.

00:20:49.000 Yes, we just had a correction in commodities.

00:20:53.000 But we've been saying for six months, on record, because it happens every summer, that the price is going to peak at the end of July or mid-July, and then go back down through the fall and winter, and then start picking back up in the spring, back into summer.

00:21:07.000 And if you watch the graph, it goes up a little bit, down, back up a little bit, down, But on a multi-year graft, it's going straight up.

00:21:15.000 So, to say, oh, see, the old companies were right.

00:21:19.000 The price went down by $25 a barrel.

00:21:21.000 This is the trick they play, where it's $1.50, then it goes to $2, then it drops back down to $1.75.

00:21:28.000 Then it raises back up to $3, then it drops to $2.50, then to $4, then to $3.50, then to $4.50, then to $4.

00:21:34.000 I mean, this is them simply training us.

00:21:37.000 Everybody's saying, wow, I love $4 gas.

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00:25:11.000 Let's finish up with, well, really how improbable it is that oil prices could drop down to $50 a barrel, which would mean, I guess, $1.75, $2 at the pump.

00:25:28.000 This is not my opinion.

00:25:29.000 The Associated Press in 2001 reported in a big series, And then we went to the university and the groups that have been involved in the research and then to the group that had the lawsuit and got the documents, not just the AP article.

00:25:43.000 And we've written articles about this the last few years.

00:25:49.000 On Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, where the oil companies in 95 and 96 met, the top 10, in the US and in London, and we have all the documents, all the minutes of their meetings, and they said, there's too much oil being discovered, we want to keep prices up, how do we do it?

00:26:05.000 And they said, well, no matter if wildcatters ring in fields, we can't really block natural gas, that's hard.

00:26:12.000 But, that's why that's been booming in the US.

00:26:16.000 And keeping the economy afloat in many areas, like Texas.

00:26:19.000 But they said what we can do is buy up these refineries.

00:26:22.000 And in the next five years, they bought up over 200 refineries and closed them.

00:26:28.000 Now Marathon and a few others have tried to go buy those old things, get through the regulatory red tape.

00:26:34.000 They're trying to retrofit them and fix them up.

00:26:36.000 These are small refineries.

00:26:38.000 So they could find an ocean of oil tomorrow.

00:26:42.000 How are they going to bring it in when we're four or five years, even if they started on A hundred new refineries in the U.S.

00:26:49.000 and we're bringing imported gas in as well.

00:26:51.000 Let's say hundreds overseas.

00:26:54.000 It's just infrastructure-wise, because I know a lot, not a lot, but quite a bit more than most people about the oil industry, because family and being here in Texas, that will Well, Bob, we're talking about five years to be able to really bring to market something that could, and that's a dead reckoning estimation, but five years?

00:27:12.000 Where if they did want to give us all the oil they're blocking up, even in Alaskan places, we're talking four or five years, or is that wrong?

00:27:19.000 Oh, I think that's right.

00:27:21.000 And let's assume in that period of time that we have a severe recession.

00:27:29.000 When a depression arrives, if in fact it does, Then you're going to have less usage.

00:27:35.000 And so one could meet the other in the middle, so to speak.

00:27:39.000 And yes, then the production of oil and gas versus usage would increase, bringing the price down.

00:27:51.000 I mean, goodness, during depression, it could go back to $11 or $12 as well.

00:27:56.000 I mean, you know, there's nothing Sacred is sacrosanct in any market.

00:28:02.000 And yes, I think that major oil companies would want prices higher, but they don't always get what they desire.

00:28:10.000 They're making record profits, and I'm sure you've seen them.

00:28:14.000 Well, I'm getting people emailing me thinking, oh, aren't oil prices low now, as if a national average of $3.90, many areas of California $4.50, some areas even higher.

00:28:23.000 This is the Pavlovian way they train us.

00:28:27.000 Remember, folks, a few years ago when $2 was outrageous, and then $3, and then... I mean, this is so childlike that people now think that oil prices are low.

00:28:39.000 Well, you know, that's that propaganda and then the release factor, you know, being able to accept something that you don't want to accept.

00:28:49.000 It's just like, you know, people who are taken, kidnapped by, say, bank robbers.

00:28:55.000 You know, you cooperate to keep your life and you sometimes adapt The thinking of the people who have imprisoned you, so to speak.

00:29:05.000 Patty Hearst is a good example of that. 0.98

00:29:08.000 You don't hear much about it anymore, but that's what she's succumbed to, and it's normal.

00:29:14.000 Yeah, she started robbing banks with them.

00:29:17.000 That's right.

00:29:18.000 And of course, being very wealthy, it was easy for her to have that obscured, if you may.

00:29:26.000 Very good point, and I think that's what the globalists use psychology.

00:29:30.000 They sold us torture, they sold us preemptive war, wars of aggression, corruption, surveillance, and the public has that syndrome, I forget the exact name, where you go ahead and start defending your abusers is basically what it is.

00:29:44.000 Yes.

00:29:45.000 And that's not abnormal.

00:29:47.000 I mean, most people don't want to die.

00:29:49.000 I mean, when you're at my age, you really don't care because, you know, You think you're fortunate you live this long, but anyway... I've studied enough history, Bob, as you have, to know that I've got a much better chance of my family and myself coming through it if I'm bold, if I fight back, and that being weak and living in denial invites enslavement.

00:30:10.000 And so I hope all these cattle-like people out there who love the system, I hope they realize they're inviting doom by rolling over on their back and presenting their belly to the wolf.

00:30:19.000 Do you agree with that?

00:30:20.000 Absolutely.

00:30:22.000 Absolutely.

00:30:22.000 If you're going to go down, you better go down fighting.

00:30:24.000 All right.

00:30:25.000 I want to spend just two or three minutes.

00:30:26.000 I want to take calls for the rest of the hour, and we appreciate Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com joining us.

00:30:31.000 Get a free trial subscription at TheInternationalForecaster.com and valuable information.

00:30:36.000 Bob, before we go to the calls, just three or four minutes, the basic economic outlook, what's currently happening right now.

00:30:46.000 Well, we have been shown, particularly through the discount window and the auctions by the Fed, that if anything, the credit crisis is worse now than it was a year ago.

00:30:58.000 And I'm sure Wall Street will tell you that's incorrect, and I'll have all kinds of reasons to tell you that.

00:31:03.000 But the bottom line is, they're increasing money in credit by about 17%, and at the same time, the banks are still having a terrible problem staying solvent.

00:31:14.000 And there's some $500 billion a month that's being given to banks, which just keeps on being an auctioned and lent and rolled at 2.25 and 2.35%.

00:31:23.000 And it's keeping the system going.

00:31:28.000 But you can't do it indefinitely, and that's where we're at this week as far as the credit situation is concerned.

00:31:35.000 The commercial paper market, where businesses go and they put up collateral and they borrow money for short periods of time, 30, 60, 90 days, maybe 6 months, for production things or research or whatever they're doing.

00:31:50.000 And that money is getting more and more and more difficult to get, and it's been that way for about a year.

00:31:59.000 So that's another negative towards... And that kills economies!

00:32:02.000 ...the business financial sector.

00:32:03.000 Yes, it does kill the economy because the government also is taking in more money, borrowing more money, and it's crowding out business borrowers.

00:32:14.000 I mean, the bank calls up and says, XYZ Instruments, you had a $5 million line of credit, now it's a million.

00:32:22.000 Uh, why?

00:32:23.000 Well, we hate to tell you this, but we just had to buy some more treasuries in order to keep the government solvent.

00:32:29.000 I mean, that's hypothetical, but the point is... Yes, you're right, Alex.

00:32:35.000 It impedes business and development.

00:32:37.000 And for those that don't know, in this globalist economy, margins of profit are so small in so many industries and so many manufacturing sectors that they'll need to borrow $10, $20, $30, $40, $50 million to do their run of a product just so they can sell industry.

00:32:53.000 It's feeding on itself.

00:32:54.000 And there's no way to stop it.

00:32:55.000 the debt in that six-month period and then make their profit.

00:32:58.000 And then now they can't even get it, even though they are solvent companies that are based in the short term on a debt model.

00:33:07.000 And so, again, that's fouling up the system.

00:33:10.000 It's feeding on itself.

00:33:12.000 It's feeding on itself.

00:33:14.000 And there's no way to stop it.

00:33:16.000 They unleashed a monster, and they can't put him back in the cage.

00:33:21.000 And the monster is going to continue to chase them or bite at them or whatever it does.

00:33:29.000 And sooner or later it's going to get them.

00:33:31.000 And it's going to get us too.

00:33:32.000 We're going to have to pay.

00:33:34.000 Even though we didn't do anything wrong and they did, but that doesn't make any difference.

00:33:37.000 That's just the way it is.

00:33:38.000 There was another article in Bloomberg, also in AP today, about how record amounts last month, record for all time history, even in the previous months, of banks going to the discount cash window and quote, getting free money from the Fed that they have to quote, you know, pay interest back on.

00:33:54.000 But that's our money, that's more liquidity currency being put out, devaluing the currency.

00:34:00.000 So you say feeding on ourselves, it's like we're starving to death, On a boat out in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, so we're chopping our toes off and then our feet off and barbecuing them, but we can't sustain ourselves that long eating ourselves.

00:34:14.000 Perfect example.

00:34:16.000 We're devouring the host.

00:34:21.000 So this is akin to someone starving to death when the body starts eating its own muscles.

00:34:25.000 That's right.

00:34:26.000 Which your body really does start eating itself without you cutting your toes off and eating them, your body does that.

00:34:31.000 My God, I mean if this was a country that was 240 pounds, solid muscle, totally, you know, huge bull neck, the best economy in the world say 100 years ago, are we emaciated down to what, 95 pounds?

00:34:46.000 And then how skinny will we get?

00:34:47.000 We'll probably wither down to 40 or 50 pounds.

00:34:55.000 But during that process, it's going to be extraordinarily difficult to counter-punch.

00:35:02.000 I mean, you're getting weaker and weaker.

00:35:04.000 And it's not only us, it's the whole world.

00:35:06.000 I mean, just take a look at Europe this week.

00:35:09.000 I mean, they're ready to declare, we are in a serious recession.

00:35:14.000 And they are.

00:35:15.000 And we haven't seen anything yet.

00:35:19.000 I mean, America started in recession a year and a half ago.

00:35:23.000 And I'm starting to see figures I'm starting to see economists say, well, gee, it could have started in the last quarter of 2006.

00:35:31.000 Well, thank you very much.

00:35:33.000 Where have you been?

00:35:35.000 Another thing, too, is that I think, finally, the mainline economists, even though they're hired by the banks and the brokerage houses and the government, are finally saying, look, these figures coming out of Washington are totally bogus.

00:35:50.000 And we can't use them anymore.

00:35:51.000 Look at the monster it's created.

00:35:54.000 And so all of these things are starting to confluence, and as we go on and the exposure comes, then the next step is deeper recession, and that means we've got to print more money, and then there's more hyperinflation until some point where the borrowers won't borrow anymore.

00:36:13.000 When you see that, you know you are about to enter deflation.

00:36:18.000 That will be the key.

00:36:20.000 Then you go into that death spiral.

00:36:22.000 And we go into foreign companies and even countries coming in who don't have the devalued currency.

00:36:31.000 They're going into recessions and depression, but they still have a strong currency.

00:36:34.000 They're coming in with all the dollars they've bought in the past, and they're buying up the infrastructure, the water districts, everything.

00:36:41.000 Here's the Wall Street Journal.

00:36:43.000 We're fighting the foreigners off in about half the time from grabbing roads that are worth $100 billion over 50 years, and they're getting them for a half billion, a billion for $75. 1.00

00:36:55.000 So literal pennies on the dollar, roads we've already paid for, The state transportation boards won't fix them.

00:37:01.000 They're spending the money on cameras and emergency centers and martial law, war wags, and the rest of it, literally, big armored vehicles.

00:37:09.000 And then we have this.

00:37:10.000 Bush calls for new highway tolls, more private funding of roads, and he just basically declared, the states are stopping this.

00:37:16.000 I'm going to use the federal funds to demand that the infrastructure be handed over to private interest.

00:37:22.000 So, I mean, you talk about cannibalism.

00:37:24.000 This is amazing, Bob.

00:37:26.000 And it's a fact, you know, you just read from your mind exactly what the Governor of New York State said.

00:37:34.000 And that is not the answer.

00:37:36.000 The answer is maybe what Schwarzenegger is doing, saying, look, we're laying off 200,000 or is it 20,000?

00:37:42.000 200,000 or is it 20,000?

00:37:45.000 And everybody, no, there's 20,000 that are going to have to be laid off and 200,000 that have to have their salaries cut to minimum wage.

00:37:55.000 And at the same time, the legislature in California is arguing about which way they're going to go on trying to solve this $15 billion, I'm in the hole dilemma.

00:38:06.000 Well, when this implodes, what are all the new 3 million cops from 500,000 a decade ago, what are they going to do when they can't pull people over and give them tickets anymore to raise money?

00:38:16.000 Because the people have no more money.

00:38:18.000 What are they going to do when all this is going bankrupt?

00:38:21.000 I don't know.

00:38:23.000 I don't know what they can do.

00:38:25.000 And if they start being aggressive, well, the people will get aggressive.

00:38:30.000 And I certainly wouldn't want to be in law enforcement at that time, because it's going to be very difficult.

00:38:38.000 Okay, let's take some calls, folks.

00:38:40.000 Let's go ahead and get my call list up here on the computer in front of me.

00:38:45.000 Let's go to Betsy, Ingrid, Judith, Catherine, and Zach.

00:38:48.000 I'm going to get to all of you, but let's move quick.

00:38:49.000 Betsy in Texas, you're on the air with Bob Chapman.

00:38:52.000 Hi Alex, I've been listening to you since February 2002 and it just keeps getting more and more.

00:39:01.000 You know, Exxon, $11 billion profit.

00:39:04.000 BP, $13 billion.

00:39:06.000 I mean, we have an energy scare, but then we, you know, we have conflicting interests.

00:39:13.000 Everything points to Alaska, from Anwar to HAARP.

00:39:18.000 Now just remember though, those profits for Exxon and BP, that's in dollar figures, so the profits really aren't that big.

00:39:24.000 I'm not saying that the oil companies aren't crooked, they're as crooked as it gets, but they are... Bob, do you want to explain that relationship?

00:39:32.000 Well, it's very, very convoluted, but the oil companies are among the richest entities in the world.

00:39:43.000 And they have been allowed to do exactly what they want to do.

00:39:47.000 And, you know, they got all these profits coming in, and that's nice for them.

00:39:52.000 But, you know, you've got millions of people in the world starving because they won't refine more gasoline to bring the price down.

00:40:00.000 Anything else, Betsy?

00:40:03.000 You know, all the car companies are going bankrupt.

00:40:05.000 They're selling the Eiffel Tower, not the Eiffel Tower, the Empire State Building to Abu Dhabi.

00:40:12.000 You know, that was on the New York Post.

00:40:14.000 New York City for sale.

00:40:15.000 You know, we're just selling out.

00:40:18.000 The whole country.

00:40:19.000 Going into slavery.

00:40:21.000 Well, thank God there's people out there like you guys that are educating people.

00:40:25.000 I do my part for my... I have meetings at the library.

00:40:30.000 I try to get people the information.

00:40:32.000 You know, go to Prison Planet.

00:40:34.000 That TV is the greatest resource.

00:40:36.000 And thank you.

00:40:37.000 Thank you.

00:40:38.000 Let's take another call here.

00:40:39.000 Let's talk to Ingrid in Las Vegas. 0.94

00:40:42.000 You're on the air, Ingrid.

00:40:43.000 Hello, Alex.

00:40:44.000 Hi.

00:40:45.000 I think you're the greatest, and no one has more courage than you.

00:40:49.000 And God is on your side.

00:40:51.000 And I'd like to tell you what happened to my friend and me exactly one week ago today.

00:40:56.000 We got pulled over by the cops.

00:41:00.000 We have a sticker on the car, InfoWars.com, and two round ball stickers, and when they got done with us, they said, do you know why we did this?

00:41:08.000 And they pointed to the stickers.

00:41:11.000 They treated us like criminals, ordered us out of the car, and facing the police car.

00:41:17.000 Then they searched the car, they searched my purse, threw everything out of my purse, didn't put it back in, questioned us beyond belief, and It was horrible.

00:41:27.000 Well, for those that don't know, all over the Western world, the police have been told to harass patriots, to engage in secret police activities.

00:41:35.000 Did you tell them shame on you?

00:41:37.000 I mean, or I guess they were proud that they saw someone who loved America as a threat.

00:41:42.000 Oh my God, they like Ron Paul. 0.99

00:41:44.000 Oh my God, they're evil. 0.96

00:41:45.000 I know.

00:41:46.000 We didn't do anything wrong.

00:41:47.000 They never asked for insurance or legislation.

00:41:49.000 Every cop asked us that before.

00:41:52.000 And they never gave us a ticket.

00:41:55.000 They were just letting you know that it was a commissariat political stop.

00:42:01.000 One cop said, do you know why we did this?

00:42:03.000 And he pointed to the stickers.

00:42:06.000 God Almighty, it's bad.

00:42:08.000 I mean, what's wrong with these cops, Bob, thinking that people that defend America, and we've been right about everything, that we're the bad ones?

00:42:14.000 What do they think?

00:42:17.000 Well, I think that they probably get a lot of disinformation from government.

00:42:23.000 And they do what they're told because they have to or they'll lose their jobs.

00:42:27.000 And I think it puts them in a state of mind where anybody who challenges the system in which they've chosen to operate in is outside of what they are or evil or whatever.

00:42:43.000 And so these two ladies in the car were evil because they thought Ron Paul was a good choice. 0.91

00:42:49.000 And so they harassed them.

00:42:51.000 Tell you what, Ingrid, stay there.

00:42:52.000 We're going to skip this break for all the InfoWars.com listeners.

00:42:56.000 Continue with the calls towards the end of the show with Bob Chapman.

00:43:01.000 Okay, Ingrid, tell us more about this story.

00:43:04.000 How did it end?

00:43:04.000 I mean, did you say, shame on you?

00:43:07.000 Or were you, or they just dumped your stuff on the ground? 0.70

00:43:09.000 I mean, I guess in the future you'll be taken to a death camp or tasered.

00:43:13.000 Yeah, Billy.

00:43:14.000 I was going to say something.

00:43:16.000 I said, no, I don't really know why you did this.

00:43:19.000 And my friend said, come on, let's go, because he... it's a guy, not... you said two women, it's a guy.

00:43:26.000 He said, come on... No, no, I'm talking about you being two women. 1.00

00:43:29.000 It was a guy with you, go ahead.

00:43:31.000 Yeah.

00:43:31.000 He... my friend said, let's go.

00:43:33.000 I was going to say more to him, but he was just so...

00:43:37.000 I'm so happy that we finally can get away from them.

00:43:41.000 Because we were, we put in the parking lot of Sam's Town.

00:43:44.000 It's a casino here in Las Vegas.

00:43:47.000 And there was all kinds of people walking by.

00:43:49.000 And they're all looking at us and we're in the front of the police car with our hands behind our back like we're criminals.

00:43:55.000 Oh, he told you to put your hands behind your back is the Ron Paul sticker. 0.96

00:43:59.000 Now, now, what was the look on their face while they were dumping your stuff out on the ground and leaving it there and having this pleasure raping Americans? 0.90

00:44:06.000 You weren't supposed to look towards our car. 0.93

00:44:08.000 You had to face the other side.

00:44:11.000 But I mean, when he was gone, did he say, get out of here?

00:44:14.000 Or how did he talk to you?

00:44:16.000 Um, he said, yeah, you can go now.

00:44:19.000 But do you know why we did this?

00:44:20.000 He said, you know.

00:44:22.000 God Almighty.

00:44:23.000 The question is, where are you going?

00:44:26.000 Where do you come from?

00:44:27.000 And where were you before that?

00:44:29.000 Well, a lot of these guys have been running checkpoints and shaking families down and killing them in Iraq, and they're just totally mind-blown.

00:44:36.000 Don't worry, cops, they're going to take your pension funds, everything you've got, your loving government that you trust so much is going to hurt you real bad.

00:44:42.000 Ingrid, you want to write that story up and post it in the message board at PrisonPlanet.com.

00:44:47.000 God bless you, my dear.

00:44:48.000 Take care.

00:44:49.000 Yeah, don't let this intimidate you, folks.

00:44:50.000 We gotta expose this more than ever.

00:44:53.000 Bob, it's that kind of story, and there's one in the news today, a person being arrested for sticking an InfoWars sticker inside an airplane.

00:45:00.000 That was not good, shouldn't have done it, but the point is they overreacted to that.

00:45:04.000 I mean, that really, again, I'd love to be able to talk to that cop when he's off duty and just say, man, don't you understand this is tyranny, Bob?

00:45:13.000 You're right, but you can't nab them.

00:45:17.000 And hopefully, policemen, law enforcement people are listening to the program, and they talk to one another saying, you know, we shouldn't be doing that.

00:45:27.000 We just shouldn't be doing that.

00:45:31.000 I just don't understand how they get away with all this evil.

00:45:34.000 I mean, we know they call them into the big police meeting rooms and tell them, look out for the Ron Paul people.

00:45:41.000 I've got video of FEMA teaching them that founding fathers are bad.

00:45:45.000 If you have a UN sticker, go ahead and arrest them.

00:45:48.000 Get us out of the UN.

00:45:49.000 It's just totally lawless criminal government.

00:45:52.000 Here we go into the final segment with Bob Chapman.

00:45:54.000 Everybody stay with us.

00:45:56.000 Wake up feeling great.

00:45:58.000 Yeah, all over the country, it's even in the newspapers, InfoWars stickers, Ron Paul stickers.

00:46:11.000 Cops pull you over, a lot of times they pull guns out, they freak out.

00:46:14.000 I got video on Road to Tyranny where they pull a woman over to Checkpoint, it's their squad car video, and they find a pocket Constitution, and the state police in Virginia start breathing heavy.

00:46:23.000 Look what I found, paraphernalia, is she allowed to have this? 1.00

00:46:27.000 And they go, I don't know, I think that's illegal.

00:46:30.000 I mean, folks, it sounds like a humor or dark satire or 1984.

00:46:35.000 No, it's America.

00:46:37.000 And, uh, God, these men have no minds. 1.00

00:46:41.000 No brains. 1.00

00:46:42.000 It's just, now, there are a lot of cops that I know, like Ron Paul, but there are a lot who are just total scum. 1.00

00:46:50.000 Oh, man, I'm just freaked out after that call. 0.99

00:46:52.000 Judith in BB, wherever that is.

00:46:55.000 You're on the air, Judith.

00:46:57.000 B-C. 0.99

00:46:58.000 Okay, good.

00:46:58.000 It said BB on my screen.

00:47:00.000 Yeah, two questions.

00:47:04.000 One, did you get my email with ten questions?

00:47:10.000 No.

00:47:12.000 Look for it.

00:47:12.000 And then my other question would have been to your first guest, and that is, did you get any news, hearing that George Bush's Oil assets have been seized, have been frozen.

00:47:31.000 And that was given to us on June the 12th on CBC Radio 2.

00:47:39.000 Today is B.C.' 's 150th birthday, and I'd like to tell your guests that.

00:47:47.000 Okay, I gotta jump.

00:47:48.000 I'm here at the end.

00:47:49.000 Thank you.

00:47:50.000 We gotta hurry.

00:47:51.000 Bob, have you heard that George Bush's oil assets have been frozen?

00:47:55.000 No, I haven't.

00:47:57.000 It's Canadian broadcasting, so they might carry it and you wouldn't hear it here.

00:48:04.000 Hi Alex, thanks for taking my call.

00:48:09.000 I have several points I'd like to touch on and I'll call back another day I guess, but I know time's short.

00:48:13.000 I'll try to be brief.

00:48:15.000 I hear a lot of complaining about the government and the problems that we're having right now as a nation and as a world, but I still hear a lot of clinging and looking to the government to fix these problems.

00:48:26.000 The thing is, they're not going to fix them for us, at least not in a way that we'd like.

00:48:29.000 They're going to push their agenda on us.

00:48:31.000 No, they're going to get money out of us and squeeze us.

00:48:33.000 They're going to try to present their solution.

00:48:36.000 That's the thing.

00:48:37.000 The system is not designed to work in our favor, and so it's absurd for us to think that we can make a difference.

00:48:41.000 Our government is foreign-owned, period. 0.99

00:48:43.000 Yeah, it's absurd for us to think that we can elect in officials.

00:48:46.000 We're going to have to do something else.

00:48:49.000 This system is not the only system.

00:48:50.000 Well, I think if you only focus... We didn't have the right to create our own.

00:48:53.000 Yeah, I hear you.

00:48:53.000 Call me back on the Sunday Show, and we'll talk about it.

00:48:56.000 We're just out of time.

00:48:57.000 But you can take over local government.

00:48:59.000 The national stuff has become a distraction.

00:49:01.000 Bob Chapman, TheInternationalForecaster.com, thank you for spending time with us.

00:49:05.000 See you next week.

00:49:06.000 Bye-bye, Alex.

00:49:06.000 You bet.

00:49:07.000 There goes Bob.

00:49:08.000 Take care, my friend.

00:49:09.000 Yes.

00:49:09.000 Ladies and gentlemen, look.

00:49:12.000 We've got to wake the general public up that cops pulling you over for Ron Paul's sticker is tyranny.

00:49:18.000 We've got to wake the public up that they're building FEMA camps. 0.99

00:49:21.000 They're putting poison in your vaccines.

00:49:22.000 They're testing chemical and biologicals on you.

00:49:24.000 They're killing us. 0.97

00:49:25.000 They're killing cops and their families, too. 0.83

00:49:28.000 Don't roll your eyes out there, government people, who think you're part of the power structure. 1.00

00:49:32.000 You're unbelievably disgusting. 1.00

00:49:34.000 You know, we don't even hate you. 1.00

00:49:36.000 We're just disgusted by you and your pig-like behavior. 1.00

00:49:39.000 Bureaucrats, all of you. 1.00

00:49:40.000 It's disgusting. 0.98

00:49:42.000 And the ride's almost over. 0.98

00:49:43.000 We're going to hell in a handbasket, and I hope you're proud of what you've done and what you've been part of.

00:49:47.000 And that goes for the American people as well. 0.83

00:49:49.000 We all have sat on our butts and let this happen, and now it's time to fix it.

00:49:54.000 And don't worry, it will get fixed.

00:49:55.000 It's going to get worse and worse.

00:49:59.000 In closing, Retransmission starts in T-minus one minute at OnePlaceInfoWars.com.

00:50:05.000 I had an incredible hour and twenty minute long interview with Vincent Bugliosi.

00:50:09.000 More than what you just heard in his ten minutes of testimony in Washington last week on impeachment.

00:50:14.000 And on Bush being a mass murderer and a lot more, that is coming up in retransmission in a jam-packed first hour where I covered the most important issue we have seen in months of government-sponsored terror, smoking gun information retransmission now, one place, on the web at InfoWars.com.

00:50:31.000 For everybody else, I'm back on the AM and FM dial next Monday and Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

00:50:36.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - August 01, 2008

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