Alex Jones Show - 20080807_Thu_Radio

00:00:04.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:23.000 We've been having him on a lot more than we did in the past.

00:00:26.000 We normally would have him two or three times a year, but because he is in a unique perspective to track what's happening on the build-up for war with Iran, and because he's fighting a potentially lethal form of melanoma, we do have Ray McGovern, top CIA analyst for Ronald Reagan, and of course George Bush Sr., top briefer, In the White House, joining us for a full hour in the next hour today.

00:00:55.000 Then for about 30 minutes in the fourth hour, we are joined by a gentleman who just goes by Jimmy Justice so that he won't have any violent repercussions against him in New York City.

00:01:08.000 He is walking all over the city in the last six months videotaping police parking in front of fire hydrants, double parking, breaking laws, even when they're off duty.

00:01:18.000 In some cases, even while fires are going on, cops will pull up in front of fire hydrants to go in to get themselves coffee and sandwiches.

00:01:26.000 While there is a fire outside, the police cannot, uh, other police that are showing up in the fire department cannot get hooked up to the fire hydrant because the traffic enforcement cop in one case, supposedly enforcing the traffic laws, are parked in front of it.

00:01:41.000 Just an example of the lawlessness of government.

00:01:44.000 And, uh, the police union isn't saying police have done anything wrong.

00:01:48.000 They say it's fine for us to break the law.

00:01:50.000 Jimmy Justice is bad.

00:01:52.000 They were actually quoted in the newspaper for saying that.

00:01:55.000 That's what's so amazing about all these new police brutality videos coming out where the cop runs 15 feet out of his way to tackle a cyclist and slam their head in the concrete and then they charge the cyclist with assaulting the cop.

00:02:07.000 Police union comes out and defends it.

00:02:09.000 Or the, uh, famous video a week and a half ago came out in the New York Post Where the guy walks out of a store with a glass and ice to go to an outdoor barbecue.

00:02:18.000 The cops say, come here!

00:02:19.000 You know, randomly checking to see if it's alcohol.

00:02:22.000 The guy keeps walking, so they run over, tackling, and then beat him full power.

00:02:26.000 Huge cop, with full force, like he's swinging in the Yankees. 0.80

00:02:31.000 You know, a top slugger just whacking the guy on the shins, huge, big, bloody creases into his legs, and just keeps beating and beating and beating and beating and beating and beating and beating and beating and beating. 0.96

00:02:46.000 And he's just clearly enjoying it. 0.98

00:02:47.000 With such force, the baton flies out of his hand.

00:02:49.000 He runs over, picks it up, runs back, and just starts slashing.

00:02:53.000 And, of course, another officer runs over and tells him to stop.

00:02:55.000 How dare that officer?

00:02:56.000 He's against the officers. 0.87

00:02:59.000 No, that's a good cop that doesn't like brutalizing innocent people and who doesn't want police names and reputation being destroyed by bad cops like the one going crazy.

00:03:10.000 Okay.

00:03:18.000 Gonna love how that deceptive headline makes it sound like from the Associated Press that they have nuclear weapons and they run this similar headline every week.

00:03:27.000 I want to go over some AP propaganda today.

00:03:31.000 A lot of other important news we'll be discussing.

00:03:35.000 The first big news story I want to cover today is anti-war website operator threatened by armed thugs.

00:03:44.000 And I know that informationclearinghouse.info is an excellent source of information.

00:03:49.000 It is a clearinghouse of information.

00:03:51.000 They do something I wish we would have more personnel to do, and that is they organize things into really good sections.

00:03:57.000 Showing the premeditated lies that took us to war, false flag states, government terror, the number of dead troops, the number of dead Iraqis, Afghans. 0.63

00:04:07.000 And some of the things that have happened to him have happened to me.

00:04:12.000 And others I know.

00:04:14.000 So when I see this MO, it has a lot of credibility for me.

00:04:19.000 The gentleman is not making the right move though.

00:04:22.000 Cowering, running, hiding out, Giving into this will only encourage it.

00:04:28.000 Will only encourage it.

00:04:30.000 So I want to come back, go over this in detail, and then take your phone calls.

00:04:37.000 Get into a lot of other news.

00:04:38.000 Ray McGovern as well, and Jimmy Justice.

00:04:41.000 The video camera vigilante.

00:04:43.000 It's all coming up on the other side of this quick break.

00:04:46.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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00:08:01.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:08:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:08:17.000 Headline on PrisonPlanet.com right now, anti-war website operator threatened by armed thugs.

00:08:26.000 Information Clearinghouse editor, victim of home invasions, warnings to stop what he is doing on the internet now.

00:08:34.000 I have talked to some of the other representatives at Information Clearinghouse just during the last break and they have sent me an email statement saying that Tom Feeley does not want to go public at this time.

00:08:50.000 Well, you can't just say that you're being threatened and your life's being threatened and you fled your home and then say that you don't choose to put out more information at this time and to try to get the support that attention will bring you.

00:09:05.000 This is the exact wrong response.

00:09:09.000 Now, Information Clearinghouse people Writers who did put out the preliminary email yesterday saying that he had been threatened and went through some of the harassment of the last four years, culminating with armed men inside his home.

00:09:27.000 That was the right move, but you don't basically become half-pregnant here.

00:09:33.000 You need to go all the way, come out, go public now.

00:09:37.000 And also, I'm so tired of seeing the establishment pick on liberals.

00:09:42.000 Liberals are scared to death of guns, they're scared to death of men with guns, they're scared to death of confrontation, and they are the perfect targets for mafioso-style, probably private contractors. 0.76

00:09:56.000 And this only invites intimidation.

00:09:59.000 So I'm going to go over the report, then I'm going to break down what the proper response should be for everyone.

00:10:06.000 History shows, common sense shows, and my personal Experience validates history and common sense.

00:10:12.000 Anti-war website operator threatened by armed thugs.

00:10:15.000 Information clearinghouse editor, victim of home invasions.

00:10:18.000 Warnings to stop what he is doing on the internet now.

00:10:21.000 The operator of a leading alternative news and strongly anti-war website has become the target.

00:10:27.000 And it is a large site.

00:10:28.000 It's almost as big as InfoWars.

00:10:30.000 Nefarious thugs apparently in the employ of the U.S. government who have continually harassed him and ordered him to shut down his website.

00:10:37.000 Tom Feely, owner and editor of InformationClearinghouse.info, has endured public harassment, home invasions, death threats, and threats to his family simply for running a website.

00:10:47.000 Counterpunch writer Mike Whitney, who knows him personally and who we just talked to during the break, has circulated an email describing what happened to Feely in an attempt to draw attention to the matter.

00:10:59.000 We're working on getting Mr. Whitney on, coming up in about 20 minutes.

00:11:04.000 Whitney writes that earlier this week, Feeley's wife was startled to suddenly discover three well-dressed men standing in her kitchen who told her that Tom must stop what he is doing on the internet now.

00:11:15.000 And from my personal experience, yes, that's who they target.

00:11:17.000 They target your wife or your woman.

00:11:20.000 Just like the Secret Service did with Anthony Yasha at Genesis two weeks ago.

00:11:27.000 They waited until he left and went and intimidated her, his fiancée.

00:11:31.000 Stop what he's doing on the internet now.

00:11:33.000 To emphasize the point, the thug pulled back his jacket to reveal a gun while barking out the warning.

00:11:40.000 Tom's wife was hysterical and refuses to go back to her house.

00:11:44.000 She contacted the FBI but was told there was nothing they could do about it.

00:11:49.000 Yeah, they use the FBI to harass people who aren't going along with Monsanto's orders.

00:11:54.000 I mean, they even harass farmers.

00:11:56.000 They use FBI to do that and retired FBI.

00:11:58.000 And retired Royal Mounted Police in Canada.

00:12:00.000 That's even come out in mainstream news.

00:12:02.000 According to Whitney, the well-dressed man told Tom's wife that he knew where her son lived.

00:12:07.000 That same M.O. we've gotten.

00:12:09.000 What line of work he is in and how many children he had.

00:12:12.000 That is exactly how they threaten you.

00:12:14.000 Subsequently, two men in a parked car, a block from Tom's mother's house, were spotted using laptops and sped off when they were approached by Tom's son.

00:12:26.000 A similar incident had happened four years previous when Feeley was approached by a stranger in a parking lot of Long's Drugstore in Southern California after being forced to remain in his car by an accomplice who blocked him from opening the car door.

00:12:42.000 The man told him, you need to stop what you're doing and are doing on the web.

00:12:49.000 And this is exactly what happened to me Twice.

00:12:57.000 Ten years ago and then nine years ago.

00:12:59.000 So everything they're talking about here, minus people in my house, if that happens and you don't identify yourself as, quote, law enforcement with a warrant, you have got a big problem.

00:13:12.000 I think you can put two plus two together.

00:13:16.000 That's why they don't do stuff like that, though, here in Texas.

00:13:20.000 I'm gonna talk about that psychology a little bit later.

00:13:25.000 Tom said the man was overweight and had his shirt untucked.

00:13:28.000 Tom was taken back by after collecting himself and said, what the bleep?

00:13:33.000 Why do you think you were telling me what I can do?

00:13:37.000 The man answered Tom.

00:13:38.000 Tom, I'm just giving you some good advice.

00:13:41.000 You should take my advice, Tom.

00:13:44.000 That is exactly what happened to me.

00:13:47.000 Exactly what happened to me in one of the occasions.

00:13:50.000 Alex Jones has experienced similar intimidation tactics on several occasions in the past, particularly in the scenario that happened to Tom in the parking lot, as well as thinly-veiled vets against his family.

00:14:00.000 Well, they've been more than thinly-veiled vets. 0.60

00:14:02.000 We're going to get your children if you don't shut up. 1.00

00:14:04.000 I've got a tough wife, folks. 1.00

00:14:05.000 She knows.

00:14:07.000 She's just got to set her jaw.

00:14:10.000 But a lot of women aren't like that. 1.00

00:14:12.000 A lot of men aren't like that.

00:14:13.000 In every single instance, the best response is to stand up, And be vocal in the face of such harassment.

00:14:19.000 Mafia-like thugs only continue to feed on those who put up with such treatment.

00:14:25.000 The most dangerous thing to do is to cower and acquiesce to the will of tyrants.

00:14:31.000 That only invites more abuse, more intimidation and attacks.

00:14:36.000 These kinds of tactics will only succeed if the thug thinks their actions can have any effect on the target.

00:14:41.000 Every time someone in our movement is intimidated or harassed, we should respond only by redoubling and intensifying our efforts.

00:14:49.000 I'll tell you this about Tom Feeley.

00:14:52.000 He is not a BSer, writes Whitney.

00:14:55.000 He is the real deal and completely committed to exposing the mob that is presently running our country.

00:15:00.000 He does not understand why, as he says, they are reaching down so far to get someone who just runs a website.

00:15:09.000 But the truth is, they are.

00:15:10.000 Someone wants to shut him up, and they apparently have the muscle to do it.

00:15:14.000 He knows he is in danger.

00:15:16.000 Well, he's in danger because his wife's hysterical.

00:15:19.000 Feely, that's only, that's like blood in the water to sharks.

00:15:21.000 That's horrible.

00:15:23.000 Feely is ditching his cell phone.

00:15:26.000 Oh, that'll help you with the license plate reading cameras.

00:15:29.000 Feely is ditching his cell phone and maintaining a low profile, but to his credit, refuses to cave into threats and will continue to publish his website.

00:15:39.000 Drawing attention to Feeley's situation is of paramount importance to ensure his protection and also to combat head-on the attempts to create a chilling atmosphere and intimidate journalists and website publishers.

00:15:53.000 Okay, it's very simple.

00:15:57.000 We don't know who these men were, and I believe the story.

00:16:02.000 But I would probably venture a guess to say that they are contractors.

00:16:08.000 Or former law enforcement.

00:16:11.000 They may even be part of the Vikings, a subgroup of criminal police in Los Angeles.

00:16:19.000 Or it could be flat-out FBI, though I don't think it's FBI.

00:16:22.000 I don't think they're that reckless yet.

00:16:25.000 But I'll tell you this, ladies and gentlemen, the police tell you, the state legislatures have told you, the federal court rulings have stated that if a Officer doesn't present ID.

00:16:38.000 And an officer tries to accost you, and it isn't an officer, that it is a false officer and you have the right and the duty to protect yourself.

00:16:46.000 And federal and state courts have ruled that if police come in to your house without warrants and are engaging in violence, you have a right to defend yourself.

00:16:54.000 Now, this is a basic.

00:16:58.000 Mafia thugs come in your house, brandish firearms, you have a right to protect yourself.

00:17:03.000 They have broken into your house, They are in your home. 0.95

00:17:07.000 They are common criminals, whoever they are.

00:17:10.000 And I am not somebody that calls for violence on this radio show. 0.96

00:17:13.000 I'm not somebody who shoots my mouth off, like a lot of people do.

00:17:17.000 But I have repeatedly warned people, do not come in my house.

00:17:22.000 Do not come in my house. 0.96

00:17:25.000 Have the police come to my home with a warrant?

00:17:28.000 That's another thing.

00:17:29.000 But if armed thugs That's what our forefathers fought and died for. 0.99

00:17:42.000 That's what this country is all about.

00:17:43.000 We are not a third world nation like Mexico or Guatemala or Indonesia where armed thugs just have their way over the disarmed population.

00:17:52.000 This is what the Second Amendment is all about.

00:17:57.000 And I assure you, Mr. Feeley, you were assessed.

00:18:00.000 You've been profiled for many years.

00:18:03.000 And they know.

00:18:04.000 I bet when I get him on the air sometime, he'll admit he doesn't own guns, he's a big liberal.

00:18:10.000 And they assessed you, sir, as somebody they could push around.

00:18:13.000 And they assessed you to know that they would be able to have success against you and your family with this.

00:18:22.000 Now I have been through the fire and tested multiple times.

00:18:25.000 I have been physically attacked by four guys in a parking lot pounding me.

00:18:28.000 Started fighting back against them.

00:18:30.000 They were shocked by it.

00:18:31.000 After I basically tore the nose off.

00:18:35.000 He had cartilage hanging out the top of his nose.

00:18:37.000 It didn't go into the brain.

00:18:38.000 It was driven out at the top.

00:18:39.000 After I tore his nose off with a vicious uppercut while the others were pounding me. 0.91

00:18:45.000 I don't have really a fighting tactic.

00:18:47.000 I just attack one at a time.

00:18:49.000 While swinging my elbow back. 0.51

00:18:50.000 You know, I punch him with the fist.

00:18:52.000 And then just slash viciously, like a wild animal, my elbow back, crashing in.

00:18:58.000 People start tackling me.

00:18:59.000 I just start full force driving my knee into them, kickboxing.

00:19:03.000 And within 30 seconds of engaging these thugs, they freaked out and drug themselves to their minivan and sped away.

00:19:12.000 Then I got visits of people blocking me in, parking their car in front of me in the parking lot.

00:19:16.000 You get in, they pull in front of you, you get out and say, what's going on?

00:19:19.000 They get out and say, hey!

00:19:21.000 Just want to make sure you're not planning anything violent, Alex.

00:19:23.000 You're not going to try anything, are you?

00:19:25.000 You know, we know how to deal with people like you.

00:19:28.000 How's your family doing?

00:19:30.000 Then we had the Travis County Sheriff's Department helicopter over my mother and father's three acres in town.

00:19:37.000 My mother walks out there at treetop level, hang out, and flip her off. 1.00

00:19:43.000 Those thugs did that just because I was trying to block funding of them getting a new helicopter.

00:19:47.000 They were lying and saying it was for Starflight, and we have the documents.

00:19:50.000 The 11 million dollar German helicopter.

00:19:52.000 The second one was, uh...

00:19:54.000 This came out in Commissioner's Court.

00:19:55.000 So what did they do?

00:19:56.000 They went and harassed my mother? 0.99

00:19:59.000 I mean, it's just, you're criminals! 0.93

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00:24:50.000 I mean, the tyranny is all around us and growing and they're The federal government is massively expanding its spy network, its human intelligence networks, federalizing our cities.

00:25:04.000 Meanwhile, a major website owner, editor, has men in his house threatening and brandishing guns at his wife.

00:25:13.000 And remember Hoppy Heidelberg, the foreman of the Oklahoma City Grand Jury, who was trying to call witnesses about the other bombers, multiple bombs in the building.

00:25:21.000 It was on all the newscasts.

00:25:22.000 And the FBI did come to his house, he invited them in, and then they pulled back their jackets when he said he was going to keep asking questions and said, you better not, and pointed at their guns.

00:25:33.000 So there are many documented cases of things like this going on, but these men did not identify themselves as FBI, though it sounds like in the latest case they were dressed similar to that.

00:25:43.000 We now have the LA Times reporting and showing photos of Blackwater mercenaries raiding a medical marijuana facility.

00:25:52.000 We know Blackwater was used in gun confiscations in New Orleans.

00:25:56.000 That's now been confirmed by PBS with Israeli commandos, foreign troops, the government's hiring felons, aggravated felons, illegal aliens, and illegal alien felons to join the military.

00:26:10.000 The Associated Press is reporting that police departments are now recruiting illegal aliens.

00:26:14.000 You can't make things like this up.

00:26:16.000 This is classical tyranny, and if we allow this to intimidate us, It doesn't even scare me, it excites me.

00:26:24.000 It lets me know we're getting close to the enemy, we're exposing them, they're having to resort to these tactics.

00:26:28.000 It lets me know I'm right about everything about this criminal government, this illegitimate government.

00:26:33.000 It just reinvigorates me and just, as if I need any more confirmation of how wicked our enemies are, this just confirms it further.

00:26:42.000 All of this train of abuses, this train of tyranny and despotism, Now, look at classical mafia in this country.

00:26:53.000 Take Italian communities. 0.99

00:26:55.000 They would move here from Sicily and other areas ruled by government corruption for thousands of years.

00:27:00.000 And would the Sicilian mafia in New York City and New Jersey and other states, other cities, would they go intimidate the British or the Irish or the German communities?

00:27:13.000 No. Because if you went into a German shopkeeper's shop, Or you went into somebody with the last names Jones shop or Johnson shop and you said I'm going to take 10% of the money you make each week and you're going to hire my cousin just to make sure that he's into the bookkeeping and make sure you're paying me.

00:27:30.000 They would be physically attacked.

00:27:32.000 They would be shot on the spot.

00:27:34.000 There are a lot of historical cases of that. 0.99

00:27:36.000 But in the Sicilian neighborhoods, they were totally accustomed to the black hand squeezing them, sucking off of them, having their way with them. 1.00

00:27:45.000 And so the people would acquiesce to it, and then those became sinners of corruption. 0.98

00:27:49.000 And then the corruption grew from there.

00:27:51.000 And that's exactly what we're dealing with here today.

00:27:54.000 They assess people.

00:27:56.000 They test people. 0.67

00:27:57.000 If I would have cowered years ago to death threats, and phone calls, and your little dog's in the backyard, and I'm gonna kill you and your little dog, things like that when my girlfriend was only my girlfriend, not my wife, Uh, and then now women calling my house saying I've gotten them pregnant, you know, made up phone calls, and then calls threatening my family.

00:28:14.000 If I was to give in to that, folks, they would only intensify. 0.62

00:28:18.000 But see, we don't give in to that.

00:28:23.000 We speak out about it. 0.73

00:28:24.000 We scream bloody murder.

00:28:25.000 We raise the alarm.

00:28:27.000 We don't give in to intimidation.

00:28:29.000 We don't give in and negotiate with terrorists.

00:28:34.000 And look at how the government, the criminal government and its PR firms, have terrorized the American people.

00:28:38.000 They've told us, give up your liberty for security.

00:28:40.000 The terrorists want your liberty, so give your liberty up.

00:28:43.000 Give up all your freedom.

00:28:44.000 Give up our way of life.

00:28:45.000 Give up our Bill of Rights.

00:28:46.000 Give up what has always made the United States special.

00:28:50.000 There's your answer.

00:28:51.000 They are the terrorists.

00:28:52.000 And you look at the evidence, they're the ones that carried out the attacks. 0.63

00:28:55.000 Those telling you, give up your liberty, let us run your lives, let us have trillions of dollars in no-bid contracts, let us engage in every corruption we want, Let us run checkpoints and dress in black uniforms and put cameras up everywhere.

00:29:07.000 And we'll keep you safe.

00:29:08.000 No, we're not going to be safe.

00:29:11.000 As a nation, we give in to this.

00:29:17.000 My family's not going to be safe now if I back off or shut up.

00:29:20.000 It's the opposite.

00:29:22.000 I'm going to continue speaking on this important subject when we get back and read to you this email I got.

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00:29:43.000 Ted Anderson isn't giving in to intimidation.

00:29:46.000 Getting his Secret Service visits, none of the sort.

00:29:50.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:02.000 The End Television and the dominant corporate media is there to scare you into submission to the police state, to their tyranny, to their fascism, or the terrorist will get you. 0.94

00:33:27.000 Meanwhile, true terrorism is going on all over this country by Latin American paramilitary thugs. 0.99

00:33:32.000 Police and military are being killed, kidnapped, and it's in the back of the paper, if it's even reported on. 0.93

00:33:38.000 So I don't want to hear from the goons out there that you're out there intimidating People because we're anti-american and you're trying to save the country you and I everybody else know that's a fraud and you're Psychopaths who get off on this and I'll tell people in law enforcement who are no longer peace officers federal state and local Do not be part of crime.

00:33:58.000 Do not be part of terrorism against the people do not be part of the secret police At least say no back out of it.

00:34:06.000 Don't follow these criminal orders.

00:34:08.000 Don't be part of this corruption and to the offshore Foreign-owned mercenary companies operating in our nation. 0.98

00:34:16.000 Shame on you, military men.

00:34:18.000 But a lot of you are foreigners now.

00:34:19.000 But still, shame on you. 0.91

00:34:21.000 They've hired thousands of Latin American death squad operatives.

00:34:26.000 We reported on that three years before it was mainstream news.

00:34:28.000 Now it's been admitted for two years to be used in Iraq.

00:34:32.000 Latin American death squads in Iraq.

00:34:34.000 They're now exporting death squads, Las Zetas, Mexican paramilitaries, killing people from Chicago. 0.94

00:34:41.000 To Indianapolis, Indiana, to Dallas, Texas, to San Antonio, Texas, Austin, Texas.

00:34:48.000 It's just amazing the things that are already going on and happening.

00:34:53.000 And don't think for a minute I think that I'm bulletproof, or that I'm invincible, or I'm tough stuff, or that I'm saying, bring it on.

00:35:00.000 You are the ones bringing it on.

00:35:02.000 You are the ones that have us cornered.

00:35:04.000 We don't have anywhere to go.

00:35:06.000 This is our country.

00:35:07.000 You're destroying our dollar, destroying our name, destroying our treasury.

00:35:11.000 Turning our schools into prisons, brainwashing our children, drugging the population, shipping in deadly narcotics all over our streets, and you just keep pushing and pushing and pushing.

00:35:25.000 I wasn't one-tenth as radical as I am now, back in the late 90s when I was physically attacked and threatened and was stalked and had all sorts of other things happen.

00:35:36.000 And that let me know just how real it was.

00:35:39.000 I was talking about tame issues compared to this, and they came and tried to intimidate me.

00:35:45.000 I am not about to discredit my family name and who my ancestors are.

00:35:49.000 We do not come from shrieking violence.

00:35:53.000 We do not come from people... 0.99

00:35:55.000 We do not descend from individuals that were cowards.

00:35:58.000 I'm gonna let people tell them what they could say, or what they could do, or what they could write, what they could broadcast.

00:36:04.000 That is not what the United States is about.

00:36:07.000 That is not what the red, white, and blue stands for.

00:36:09.000 I don't care if you try to expropriate it and wrap it around fascism and expropriate our sacred symbols.

00:36:19.000 And a lot of you out there, I'm a big fish in this, and look, I'm still alive.

00:36:23.000 People talk about me as the canary in the coal mine, and frankly, I am.

00:36:27.000 Other canaries in the coal mine have dropped, have died.

00:36:31.000 People like Bill Cooper, who they could set up and harass, week after week, driving on his property, making noise, getting him to come outside, and then they gunned him down.

00:36:40.000 I don't have any illusions about my safety, my security.

00:36:50.000 I am committed to this.

00:36:51.000 I have turned my life over to the cause of liberty, whatever the case may be.

00:36:57.000 Maybe. Now, I try to not be a hothead.

00:37:00.000 I try to not let them set me up.

00:37:02.000 I mean, I remember right when we released Terror Storm, I went and had a video shining at book people in Austin, Texas, the biggest independent bookstore in Texas.

00:37:14.000 And there were about 250 people showed up for it.

00:37:18.000 And I'd been getting death threats all week long.

00:37:22.000 Vicious death threats.

00:37:25.000 And so I Called a police officer I know, who's also is in the Special Forces, friend of mine, and I said, when you're going to be off duty, can you come to the event?

00:37:38.000 Chilean Italians, who have still been cowed from the old country, and if we laid out of the corruption, it will grow, it will set in, and then it will expand. 1.00

00:37:47.000 Just like the Asian Triad Mafia gangs. 0.94

00:37:52.000 Do they go into the Black-owned or the WASP-owned? 0.98

00:37:58.000 Do they go into the Americana stores?

00:38:01.000 No. They go into the Chinatowns and they shake down the shopkeepers and the people there. 0.99

00:38:09.000 The Mexican gangs, who do they shake down? 0.99

00:38:11.000 They shake down other Mexicans who aren't citizens and who are accustomed to being shaken down for Mordido or the little bite. 0.99

00:38:19.000 The beak-dipping, the payoffs. 0.92

00:38:25.000 But now more and more reports come out in Texas and California where the police are demanding money on the side of the road.

00:38:31.000 See, we're becoming like Mexico, or like Sicily, or Malaysia.

00:38:40.000 We come from hard-working, strong individuals that would have violently lashed out at anyone who tried to oppress them or enslave them.

00:38:54.000 The people that came to this nation were individuals leaving tyranny, and they were coming here to fight, to carve out a place where they could at least live in some dignity and honor.

00:39:06.000 If you insulted a man of the West just 200 years ago, you would be in the street having a duel with a saber or a musket.

00:39:22.000 And it's that attitude that kept corruption at bay.

00:39:25.000 Didn't mean it didn't exist, but it hid out.

00:39:27.000 It was under the table.

00:39:28.000 It was paranoid.

00:39:30.000 It was sneaky.

00:39:31.000 Not out in the open, roaring arrogantly, trying to intimidate the entire mass into submission.

00:39:39.000 And that's why you don't have, or didn't have, mafia in Texas, in Georgia, in West Virginia, In Colorado, in Arizona, in Montana, in Wyoming, in places like that.

00:40:00.000 Because if somebody walked in...

00:40:04.000 I mean, I know both my grandfathers.

00:40:08.000 You know, they were kind of the last of that top generation.

00:40:10.000 If somebody...

00:40:11.000 I remember hearing of a few similar cases just where somebody tried to threaten them or demand something from them, and then they would just physically go after them.

00:40:21.000 And there wasn't even any thinking about it.

00:40:24.000 You come in and demand something. 0.94

00:40:27.000 You come in as a mafia thug. 0.98

00:40:29.000 I mean, if a mafia thug walked into my office and walked right in here and brandished a firearm, I would reach right underneath my desk and I would open fire on their center of mass until I unloaded the firearm. 0.98

00:40:40.000 And then I'd call 9-1-1. 0.51

00:40:42.000 And that's radical?

00:40:44.000 That is bravado?

00:40:45.000 That's, ooh, Alex, tough guy.

00:40:47.000 No! That is an instinct of liberty.

00:40:50.000 That is an instinct of a man.

00:40:53.000 Leave me alone! 1.00

00:40:55.000 That's why the old flag was the rattlesnake.

00:40:57.000 Don't tread on me.

00:41:00.000 One of the Revolutionary War militia flags.

00:41:03.000 It meant leave me alone.

00:41:05.000 I'm curled up right here.

00:41:07.000 Get out of my way.

00:41:08.000 I don't belong to you.

00:41:10.000 You see the tail.

00:41:12.000 You see the rattles.

00:41:13.000 You hear that.

00:41:15.000 Back off! 1.00

00:41:17.000 We're gonna have our websites.

00:41:19.000 We're going to write our news stories when it comes out that Dick Cheney was planning to dress up Navy SEALs in fake Iranian patrol boats and attack our own ships and it's mainstream news?

00:41:30.000 We're going to put it out and make sure it gets covered by bigger outlets.

00:41:32.000 We're going to magnify it.

00:41:34.000 That's what we are as an amplifier.

00:41:36.000 Big ol' amplifier.

00:41:37.000 Big ol' megaphone.

00:41:39.000 And you know what?

00:41:40.000 You can do whatever you're going to do.

00:41:41.000 You don't think I don't know they have hitmen on every major force?

00:41:44.000 You don't think I don't know they could send some of their Austen's Hit men?

00:41:47.000 I know they got hit men even on the Austin Force.

00:41:49.000 You don't think I don't know?

00:41:52.000 I mean, they kill CIA guys.

00:41:53.000 They kill whoever they want all the time.

00:41:55.000 You don't think I don't know you can't pull me over? 1.00

00:41:57.000 And then plant a gun on me, shoot me a couple times in the head? 0.99

00:42:00.000 It can even be on video! 0.99

00:42:01.000 And nobody gets in trouble.

00:42:02.000 I know!

00:42:03.000 I'm committed!

00:42:04.000 You don't think I don't know that you can poison me?

00:42:09.000 Or do a hundred other things?

00:42:11.000 Just understand, I'm committed!

00:42:13.000 Understand, you kill me, my message only gets bigger.

00:42:16.000 You think it's amplified now.

00:42:19.000 And they don't like that.

00:42:20.000 These thugs don't like that with people that are committed.

00:42:22.000 And I'll tell you something, too.

00:42:26.000 In the past, if thugs or carpetbaggers, when they did come into the South, and this happened after the Civil War, they tried to come in and oppress and enslave people, and you know what would happen? 0.98

00:42:37.000 They might corner a family, rape the women, kill them, they might burn down a farm, but It might be a year later. 0.94

00:42:43.000 It might be two years later. 1.00

00:42:44.000 It might be three years later.

00:42:46.000 The captains of those operations might be living in a whole other state.

00:42:50.000 A lot of famous cases of this and he's in there saddling up his horse one morning to ride into town and you hear a gun cock behind you and you turn around and you know why I'm here.

00:43:00.000 You know what you did to my cousin.

00:43:02.000 Get on your knees. 0.98

00:43:06.000 your head off right now And I'm going to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that the crimes that are being committed against innocent, decent people are going to be avenged. 0.99

00:43:21.000 And if I'm killed, you better believe that it's going to be avenged.

00:43:30.000 And that's why they want their cashless society tracking grid to measure and track and know where everybody's at every time, and to, with pre-crime, try to predict what you're going to do, and now they're setting precedents to arrest you, because they know they're going to commit incredible crimes, and they know history, and they know there's going to be resistance to it, and they know this is an armed country.

00:43:50.000 So, it's an important message to tyranny, unless you want to live in a mafia amusement park, where you're the Amusement.

00:44:01.000 And they're in there having fun with you.

00:44:03.000 Unless you want to live under that type of oppression and evil.

00:44:08.000 You'd better grow a pair right now.

00:44:12.000 I got this...

00:44:14.000 I have several emails here.

00:44:22.000 I don't think I printed off the latest one.

00:44:27.000 Yeah, here's the latest one.

00:44:29.000 From Information Clearinghouse.

00:44:31.000 Sorry, Trey, but Tom doesn't want to talk about this at all.

00:44:33.000 Why'd you put out an alert email?

00:44:36.000 Okay? Don't expect us that just because you did the right thing and put out things asking for help, that now you've been taken over by fear, and so we're supposed to just stand down and let wolves have their way.

00:44:47.000 No. Sorry, Trey, but Tom doesn't want to talk about this at all.

00:44:51.000 So I can't do the show.

00:44:53.000 I'm sure you understand.

00:44:54.000 No, I don't understand.

00:44:55.000 But his wife must be totally beside herself. 1.00

00:44:57.000 Well, if you give in to the fear, they're going to keep intimidating and she'll really be beside herself.

00:45:01.000 Sorry, Trey, but Tom doesn't want this talked about at all.

00:45:06.000 Well, I'm sorry.

00:45:07.000 You already talked about it.

00:45:08.000 You already let it out.

00:45:11.000 So I can't do the show.

00:45:13.000 I'm sure you understand that his wife must be totally beside herself, as most people would be.

00:45:17.000 Besides, there's no verification.

00:45:21.000 So he puts this out.

00:45:23.000 He calls for help.

00:45:26.000 And then you're saying, Tom doesn't want this talked about at all, let's just forget about it all.

00:45:32.000 When the story he tells is exactly what I've witnessed over and over again.

00:45:36.000 This is the same MO.

00:45:37.000 I believe this.

00:45:38.000 Because I've lived it.

00:45:39.000 And others I know have lived it.

00:45:41.000 I mean, Kurt Nemos had all sorts of incredible death threats and things that go on and on.

00:45:45.000 We all get it.

00:45:47.000 And I don't just mean some email.

00:45:50.000 I hope you will honor his wishes and not discuss it.

00:45:53.000 Oh yeah, after the emails all over the web.

00:45:55.000 Now, here was the one before that.

00:45:57.000 Hi, Trey.

00:45:58.000 I go to InfoWars almost every day and have always had a lot of respect for Alex Jones and Kurt Nemo.

00:46:02.000 I still remember when some nutball was threatening to kill Kurt and one of the editors at Dissident Voice.

00:46:10.000 This information about Tom is very sensitive and does not want to go public with it.

00:46:14.000 This is the email I'm sending out to people who I am connected, who I contacted yesterday.

00:46:21.000 Feely.

00:46:25.000 Has not notified me.

00:46:27.000 Has notified me and told me that his family does not want to go public with the info I passed on yesterday.

00:46:33.000 Hey, you did the right thing.

00:46:35.000 This is Joan Whitney.

00:46:37.000 You did the right thing, Joan Whitney.

00:46:41.000 So don't feel bad.

00:46:42.000 I mean, that horse already left the barn.

00:46:45.000 I'll let you know about any developments unless I'm told to keep them secret.

00:46:48.000 Nothing that I have told you, and it goes on.

00:46:53.000 I'm just going to wait for instructions and hope the whole thing is just a bluff.

00:46:58.000 Men inside of the house threatening his wife with firearms is just a bluff.

00:47:11.000 And again, hey, fine, you want the wolves to sit there and chew you up and intimidate you, fine, but that's bad advice.

00:47:20.000 For everybody else.

00:47:21.000 That's not how you behave.

00:47:22.000 That's not how you operate.

00:47:24.000 It only gets worse.

00:47:27.000 Now let me tell you what would happen if I walked into my kitchen and there were four guys standing there.

00:47:33.000 I would say, who are you?

00:47:35.000 What are you doing here?

00:47:37.000 And they started their little mafioso confidence thing of, now you just sit down and you be quiet.

00:47:41.000 You listen to us.

00:47:42.000 I would say, I'm going to count to three and you better tell me who you are and identify yourself right now.

00:47:50.000 They didn't identify themselves?

00:47:52.000 Let's just say I wasn't armed and didn't know they were there.

00:47:54.000 Let's say it was in my kitchen. 0.95

00:47:56.000 I would move forward calmly, grab a giant butcher knife, and with total savage hatred, drive it to the hilt, right into the first person's stomach.

00:48:06.000 So let me tell you something. 0.99

00:48:08.000 Let me tell the Mafia thugs, don't come around my house. 0.99

00:48:12.000 I don't care if you blow me away in my own home. 0.99

00:48:15.000 I'm gonna come after you.

00:48:18.000 You understand?

00:48:23.000 I'm going to come after you. 0.99

00:48:25.000 I'm going to attack you and you're not going to like it. 0.99

00:48:28.000 I assure you.

00:48:30.000 You know, fight is really the ultimate form of flight.

00:48:33.000 You know that energy when you're running from something, how much energy you got?

00:48:35.000 Well, that's all fighting is.

00:48:36.000 I run at you.

00:48:38.000 I attack with everything I've got.

00:48:42.000 Because I will not give in to fear, ladies and gentlemen.

00:48:45.000 I will make you fear. 1.00

00:48:49.000 You are despicable, cold-hearted, degenerate, America-murdering criminals to come in a house and threaten an anti-war website, threaten a woman. 1.00

00:49:00.000 and you do that because you're cowardly pieces of crap who know that woman is going to get hysterical nine times out of ten and go to her man and demand he stop what he's Who are we? Are we Americans? 1.00

00:49:15.000 Are we free men and women?

00:49:17.000 Or are we going to give in to a mafia takeover of this country?

00:49:20.000 Is that who we are?

00:49:21.000 Is that what we've turned into?

00:49:22.000 That we let people intimidate us not to write, not to speak, not to stand up, not to be involved?

00:49:27.000 Is that what America is?

00:49:28.000 Is keeping your mouth shut and going quietly into the night while the country's looted seven ways to Sunday?

00:49:35.000 No! We all have to speak out.

00:49:37.000 We have to be more bold than ever.

00:49:39.000 We have to be more aggressive than ever.

00:49:46.000 That's what we've got to do.

00:49:48.000 Take some of your phone calls on this subject.

00:49:50.000 Then Ray McGovern's coming up.

00:49:51.000 I'm gonna get his take on what he would do to intimidation like this.

00:49:54.000 This is the GCN Radio Network.

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00:52:57.000 If we don't expose the government-sponsored terror, they're going to commit more acts and bring in martial law.

00:53:04.000 Music Bottom line, when you cower like third-world slaves, you will be abused. 0.85

00:53:15.000 When you stand up like our forebearers with strength and honor, thugs disappear like phantoms at dawn.

00:53:29.000 And yes, for those out there doubting the tyranny who've never experienced it, I have personally experienced it.

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00:53:36.000 I mean, I go to the Bilderberg Group and Bullhorn world government meetings to the point of where the head of the CFR comes out and gives me vicious, dirty looks.

00:53:45.000 And with secret police following us around in clown masks to try to freak us out, like John Wayne Gacy.

00:53:53.000 I'm committed!

00:53:55.000 It's in God's hands, so you stop thinking you're in danger out there.

00:53:58.000 Yes, you'll be tested if you get prominent, but that's what life's all about.

00:54:05.000 The real heroes are people that have alternative websites and exposed tyranny and investigative journalists who go through the fire.

00:54:11.000 It isn't Brett Favre.

00:54:13.000 It isn't baseball or football or basketball.

00:54:16.000 The real heroes are the people fighting for our liberty as darkness falls on this nation.

00:54:21.000 And don't think it's a lot at the end of the tunnel, George Bush, about to leave office.

00:54:24.000 It's only going to get worse.

00:54:26.000 Because as time goes on, this intensifies.

00:54:28.000 Zach in New York, you're on the air.

00:54:32.000 Come on, Zach.

00:54:36.000 Okay. Go ahead, sir.

00:54:38.000 Oh, now here I am.

00:54:39.000 Okay. You know, understanding what you're describing, you know, psychologically as a concept is one thing, but Well, I think what you're talking about is having the right attitude, and that is a lot more, uh, that's a much bigger thing.

00:54:54.000 Because I, you know, I grew up, uh, you know, doing the Pledge of Allegiance, and having the DARE officer come and tell me about stuff, and, uh, you know, it's, I don't really, I mean, I understand what you're saying, and I know it's true, and I believe it,

00:55:10.000 but internalizing that, and having that be my personal You know what I get by the email they put out and by talking to them behind the scenes, and what I get from many others is, now just men not identifying themselves with guns is authority, and so now it might be guys robbing a bank.

00:55:31.000 Maybe when cops show up at a bank robbery, if the guys are wearing suits robbing the bank, maybe the cops will salute them.

00:55:37.000 It's just, don't know who you are, you're threatening a woman in her house, Uh, it's the authority.

00:55:42.000 We better just give in to it. 0.99

00:55:43.000 I mean, we're that dumbed down. 0.98

00:55:45.000 We just lay down to anybody with a gun now.

00:55:48.000 Well, uh, you know, if you remember Apollo 13, there was a conversation going on.

00:55:53.000 He says, uh, you know, this is the greatest disaster in NASA's history.

00:55:57.000 And then, uh, Ed Harris turns around and he says, uh, with all due respect, sir, I believe this is our finest hour.

00:56:03.000 And I think the worst things get, it's kind of like, I have a friend who's a major alcoholic, and When he was doing his thing, I didn't really...

00:56:11.000 I'm not going to annoy him and say you should stop.

00:56:13.000 It's just a process that has to see its way through.

00:56:17.000 And in the end, either you'll crash through or you'll bounce back.

00:56:20.000 And I think it is going to be very awful, and it's going to be very painful, but in the end, we're going to be better for it.

00:56:28.000 And it's going to be a beautiful, beautiful future.

00:56:31.000 Well, I hope you're right.

00:56:32.000 I've also had a couple friends die.

00:56:34.000 When they're like 25, 30 years old, because people said, oh, they'll get over being alcoholics, and then it fried their liver and they died.

00:56:44.000 Well, um, you know, I just, I, I'm trying to have the right attitude myself, and I'm trying to, just to, to maintain, even, you know, uh, going day to day, it can be very, uh, frustrating, having all this nonsense go on and having this on my mind.

00:57:03.000 No, I hear you, but we need to have it on our mind.

00:57:05.000 We need to deal with it.

00:57:06.000 I agree.

00:57:07.000 Think positive, but act to be the change you want to see in the world.

00:57:11.000 Don't stop.

00:57:12.000 And you know what I'm afraid of?

00:57:13.000 I'm afraid of these thugs coming around me again.

00:57:16.000 I mean, I've already physically attacked them once when they attacked me.

00:57:18.000 I mean, I'm not afraid of them coming.

00:57:21.000 I'm not afraid of them.

00:57:22.000 I'm afraid of what'll happen.

00:57:26.000 I mean, you know, I mean, I'm not a tough guy.

00:57:31.000 I'm just a man, folks.

00:57:33.000 And I've got my instincts in line, and I'm vicious.

00:57:35.000 And people better just stay the hell away from me.

00:57:38.000 You know? 0.99

00:57:39.000 Well, they better come up behind me when they do it, because I've had enough of their garbage! 1.00

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00:58:59.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:04.000 Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:08.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.

00:59:13.000 You want answers?

00:59:15.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:17.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:21.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:26.000 Ray McGovern's coming up in the next segment right now and taking calls about death threats, men harassing people at their homes, coming into their homes.

00:59:33.000 Probably contractors, probably just mafia contracted.

00:59:36.000 And how we have to stand up against this and speak out against it and not go along with it.

00:59:43.000 Elliott in Ohio, then Reb, John, Kurt, and others.

00:59:47.000 Go ahead, Elliott.

00:59:48.000 Yep.

00:59:49.000 Hey Alex, I got a story that supports your argument.

00:59:53.000 My oldest cousin, his best friend, he studied law for three years.

00:59:56.000 He didn't get his license.

00:59:57.000 He didn't want it.

00:59:58.000 He just wanted to be knowledgeable so that he could combat all this tyranny.

01:00:02.000 It was amazing.

01:00:03.000 I was sitting down with him, me and my cousin.

01:00:07.000 We were talking about something that happened to Daryl like a year ago.

01:00:14.000 He was coming home from a bar.

01:00:17.000 He was walking, and he's gotten a lot of bad vibes from the cops, being that every time they try to take him to court, he always wins.

01:00:25.000 He used constitutional rights, fights it, and always wins.

01:00:29.000 Now, Fairfax cops, uh, Fairfax County and Cincinnati, they hate him.

01:00:34.000 Absolutely hate him.

01:00:35.000 He's blacklisted. 0.99

01:00:36.000 Always try to harass him.

01:00:38.000 Uh, he's walking back from the bar.

01:00:40.000 They, uh, they stop him.

01:00:42.000 They're like, okay, Daryl.

01:00:43.000 Uh, you're drunk in public.

01:00:45.000 We're gonna, we're gonna write you a ticket.

01:00:47.000 Daryl's like, no you're not.

01:00:48.000 You're gonna get back in your car and I'm gonna go walk to my house.

01:00:50.000 And that's gonna be that.

01:00:52.000 And he sees them.

01:00:53.000 As soon as he starts walking, he sees them reach for his gun.

01:00:56.000 He lunges at them.

01:00:58.000 Takes the gun from the officer, makes his partner and him get on the sidewalk and stay there.

01:01:04.000 And there was witnesses right outside the bar seeing all this.

01:01:07.000 Wait a minute, isn't he a listener to this show?

01:01:09.000 Because it came out that another listener did that in Idaho.

01:01:14.000 The same thing happened.

01:01:15.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:01:17.000 Yeah, so he gets them on the sidewalk.

01:01:20.000 A Marymount cop, which is where he was at.

01:01:22.000 He wasn't even in Fairfax.

01:01:23.000 I mean, Fairfax, Marymount, they butt up right against each other.

01:01:27.000 Uh, Marymont cop comes by, you know, he flashes his gun. 1.00

01:01:30.000 You better drop your gun right now or I'm gonna shoot you. 0.98

01:01:32.000 It's like, no, these people just tried to kill me and I got plenty of witnesses to, uh, to back up the, uh, the case. 0.99

01:01:39.000 And sure enough, takes these two cops to court, wins, and gets two apology letters, gets them suspended for two weeks.

01:01:47.000 That's all?

01:01:49.000 Yeah, that was all.

01:01:50.000 I mean, you can't really do too much, but...

01:01:52.000 Send me a news article on that, because I saw it.

01:01:54.000 That happened with another one of our listeners, but then they charged him later.

01:01:59.000 Just amazing. 0.99

01:02:01.000 And I want the dumb cops to know something. 1.00

01:02:04.000 Do you think in a government, in a country where you're allowed to act like this, that you're safe? 0.99

01:02:09.000 That the people running you aren't going to take your pension funds, aren't going to do other bad things?

01:02:14.000 Crime affects everybody.

01:02:17.000 And a government going rogue affects everybody.

01:02:20.000 This is bad.

01:02:21.000 When you've got secret police or contractors, Showing up in people's houses, threatening their wives, and not saying who they are.

01:02:28.000 I mean, the country's going, you know, saying, don't have your anti-war website anymore.

01:02:32.000 The country's going to hell in a handbasket.

01:02:35.000 I hear you, and I appreciate your call.

01:02:36.000 Let's take another one here.

01:02:37.000 Let's talk to Rev in Colorado.

01:02:41.000 Yeah, I'm here, and we had a home invasion.

01:02:44.000 A hostage taken, a witness tampering with our residence.

01:02:49.000 Speak up.

01:02:50.000 There's three of us.

01:02:52.000 And what happened, the Lakewood Colorado PD and Jefferson County PD broke in, and they put a gun to their head and pushed their head forward to sign things, and then they told them words they can't say over the air.

01:03:07.000 Need you to speak up!

01:03:08.000 Yeah, okay, so that's what happened.

01:03:11.000 And then all of a sudden, they didn't stop coming back, because, like I said, they wouldn't sign things, so they decided to Stand in front of them on the couch with guns out and they go around in their little residence there.

01:03:28.000 Nobody knew what they were doing.

01:03:29.000 You know that's come out in Austin news to get a yogurt shop confession.

01:03:32.000 They put a gun to his head on video and then the police said that's a good thing. 0.99

01:03:37.000 And then it's come out all over the country where they beat people up and the person records it or put guns to their head and say sign it.

01:03:43.000 And yeah, that's America.

01:03:44.000 It's a mafia run.

01:03:45.000 It's a mafia culture.

01:03:47.000 All the police aren't corrupt, but rapidly they're being removed.

01:03:50.000 Aggravated felons are being put in.

01:03:53.000 I mean, the government's hiring criminals.

01:03:54.000 I mean, it's in the news.

01:03:56.000 It's completely going rogue.

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01:05:11.000 Do you like being a puppet, sir?

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01:05:14.000 How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?

01:05:17.000 was engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFO.

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01:07:13.000 All indications are Israel is still intending to strike Iran sometime before or after the election, in the next three or four months.

01:07:22.000 And former White House Briefer Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr., top-level CIA analyst, Army officer, is our guest, and we really appreciate him giving us so much time the last few months.

01:07:34.000 He's also battling melanoma.

01:07:36.000 We're told it's going well, so thank God for that.

01:07:38.000 Ray McGovern needs your prayers.

01:07:40.000 He's a great guy.

01:07:41.000 He's spoken out for 9-11 Truth, calling for an investigation.

01:07:44.000 I want to get into Cy Hirsch, who by the way, we did talk to Cy Hirsch.

01:07:49.000 I'm just going to leave it at that.

01:07:50.000 Look for him soon on the show.

01:07:52.000 And breaking news, I'm going to leave it at that.

01:07:54.000 Because that's what he asked us to do, but he'll be here soon.

01:07:58.000 12 targets that Dick Cheney wanted to attack.

01:08:00.000 The one he released at a journalism conference Two weeks ago, finally hit YouTube last week, we grabbed it, shoved it out big time.

01:08:08.000 Two nights later, because of you the listeners, I said, get this out to everybody, email it to all news agencies, call them.

01:08:14.000 Keith Elberman did cover it last Friday night.

01:08:16.000 So it's been on MSNBC that they were planning to create fake Iranian patrol boats and have a, quote, shootout between the Navy SEALs and a major ship, a major naval ship.

01:08:30.000 Uh, this is unbelievable, and somehow Dick Cheney was overruled.

01:08:33.000 Cy Hirsch will not say yet, because he doesn't want to give up his source.

01:08:36.000 If he says too much, they can pinpoint who it was in the meeting, or which meeting it was, but he says he's got a new report coming out in the next month and a half.

01:08:45.000 I'm just going to leave it at that.

01:08:47.000 I don't want to bring out too much here, but we're going to get Ray McGovern's take on that as well, because he's been warning for three years of a staged Gulf of Tonkin, so has Ron Paul.

01:08:55.000 These guys have got good political minds to be able to I mean, I was saying another false flag here domestically or something in Israel, and they're going, no, it'll be something with ships.

01:09:04.000 That's what we think.

01:09:05.000 And then that's what it's turning out to be.

01:09:07.000 They tried something a few months ago, as you know, with the fake radio transmissions.

01:09:10.000 But Mr. McGovern, let's get into that a little bit later.

01:09:13.000 First off, Information Clearinghouse, very credible.

01:09:16.000 I've been talking to some of the Counterpunch writers, they've confirmed this did go on, but the editor and owner doesn't want to talk about now.

01:09:23.000 His wife is beside herself.

01:09:25.000 She came in the kitchen, four armed guys, brandish guns and suits and said, we're not going to tell you who we are, but we know who your kids are and you and your family better just shut up and stop having this anti-war site. 1.00

01:09:36.000 It's one of the largest sites, not as big as ours, but close.

01:09:40.000 It's in the top 10. And, uh, that happened.

01:09:43.000 I have been physically attacked before.

01:09:45.000 I've had death threats.

01:09:46.000 They just started up a few months ago, and I went to Bilderberg and bullhorned that, and had Richard and Hoss come out and turn red, staring at me from 20 feet away, because there was one area where we could bullhorn into their main meeting hall.

01:09:58.000 And then women calling my house, telling my wife, is Alex there?

01:10:01.000 Well, no, I'm his...

01:10:02.000 Who is it?

01:10:02.000 I'll give a message.

01:10:03.000 Well, who is this?

01:10:04.000 Oh, I'm his wife.

01:10:04.000 Well, that's impossible.

01:10:05.000 We're getting married.

01:10:06.000 I'm pregnant.

01:10:07.000 Of course, I've...

01:10:08.000 It's totally made up.

01:10:12.000 Well, I think mafia is the right word.

01:10:30.000 The institutions of our country have been so corrupted That this kind of thing goes on in the FBI, as it told Tom's wife, it just can't do anything about it.

01:10:42.000 Well, right.

01:10:43.000 You know, this whole business really stinks to high heaven.

01:10:47.000 And Tom Feely, I know, he publishes my stuff together with other websites, and he's the real deal.

01:10:55.000 And when he talks about this, you can take it on faith that he's telling the truth.

01:11:01.000 You have a rather rude interruption of his family and himself, and a dire warning.

01:11:07.000 Stop publishing this stuff on your website, or else!

01:11:10.000 Couldn't be worse.

01:11:12.000 What I'm thinking about when I talk about institutions is also an institution that I served proudly in, and the U.S. Army.

01:11:19.000 And what said it all to me, Alex, was this.

01:11:24.000 When Cy Hirsch was doing one of his exposés on what happened at Abu Ghraib, He pointed out that General Toguba was the only one to do an honest investigation, and he did the first one.

01:11:37.000 You know what happened to him?

01:11:38.000 He ended up in a limousine with General Abizade, who was CENTCOM commander at the time, in Kuwait.

01:11:45.000 And they're sitting there, and Abizade turns to Toguba, and he says, you know, your investigation is being investigated itself, and you know what, General Toguba, so are you being investigated.

01:11:58.000 And Takuba turns to Seymour Hersh and he says, It was then and only then that I realized that after 33 years serving in this army, it was no longer the U.S. Army.

01:12:09.000 It was the Mafia.

01:12:11.000 That's what we've got.

01:12:13.000 We've got a bunch of hoods descending upon a very reputable website runner.

01:12:18.000 You've got that.

01:12:19.000 You've got the Mafia.

01:12:20.000 And if we can't get the FBI to investigate this, or the local police, You know, I don't know what we can do.

01:12:28.000 It sets a precedent, doesn't it?

01:12:29.000 Yeah, it sure does.

01:12:30.000 It sets a precedent.

01:12:32.000 Now we know, speaking of Army, they're using a lot of Army intelligence to spy on peace groups, to harass people, to provocateur.

01:12:39.000 What would you say to those men who they have twisted into doing this?

01:12:44.000 I mean, how are they brainwashing them to go commit these type of crimes?

01:12:48.000 We have to remind them what they swore allegiance to, and it was not the President of the United States, it was the Constitution.

01:12:56.000 And some of them will learn this for the first time, but when they do learn it, and when they know that there's a law against precisely this, the U.S. Army is not supposed to be exercising domestic law enforcement functions.

01:13:12.000 It's against the Well, I'm just suggesting that when you see one of these young folks out there, maybe in Denver or wherever they are now, you need to go up and approach them and say, look, son or brother, do you realize that you don't have to obey unlawful orders?

01:13:36.000 And if you are doing domestic surveillance here, the law says you shouldn't be doing that.

01:13:41.000 And just saying that you were ordered to do it is not going to suffice if all this is brought into a court of law.

01:13:46.000 What would Ray McGovern do if, man, obviously they wouldn't do it to you, they'd do it to your wife, or they'd assess her, and she'd probably tough like you, so it wouldn't work.

01:13:56.000 But, I mean, what would you do if you walked into the kitchen and four guys brandished guns and said, That's a good question.

01:14:06.000 I guess I'd say, who are you?

01:14:12.000 And if they weren't able to show me identification, I'd tell them to get out of my house.

01:14:17.000 If they didn't do that, I suppose I'd quickly exit the house myself, lock the door from the outside, and get on to 9-11 or whatever it might be in hopes that they could be apprehended before they left.

01:14:32.000 I'm too old to worry about being shot.

01:14:34.000 I think who's being shot here is the Constitution of the United States.

01:14:38.000 And if they shot me and that had a Well, if you've got unidentified thugs in your house brandishing weapons on your wife, I'm going to do something else.

01:14:54.000 Yeah, that's what, I mean, absolutely.

01:14:58.000 And I'm not looking for trouble.

01:14:59.000 I mean, I've been around the block.

01:15:00.000 I'm not here, you know, acting tough.

01:15:02.000 It's all right.

01:15:03.000 I mean, what do you do when you catch a burglar and you're safe at your house?

01:15:06.000 I mean...

01:15:08.000 We have five kids, so we don't have any money, and it's very apparent from the looks of our house, so we should rather say from that point of view.

01:15:14.000 Well, my point is that I'm sure they assessed this guy as a liberal who isn't a gun owner and thought they could do it.

01:15:22.000 I mean, I guarantee you that a lot of people I know, it would not have gone well, Ray.

01:15:28.000 It would not have gone well.

01:15:30.000 Yeah. Well, we'll have to see how the other points out.

01:15:33.000 I mean, I can't control myself.

01:15:34.000 I'm not like you, Ray, who's got all this self-control.

01:15:37.000 Somebody comes in my house threatening my family, I think I'd lose control.

01:15:42.000 You know, if kids were there or something like that, it would have been a little different.

01:15:45.000 Yeah, what would you do if your children were in the next room?

01:15:47.000 Yeah, well, uh...

01:15:50.000 I don't know.

01:15:52.000 I'd have to figure that out.

01:15:53.000 Yeah, I think I've got an idea what you'd do, Ray.

01:15:55.000 But I think what we need to do here is to raise such a hue and cry that the whole country is sensitized to the fact that this can happen.

01:16:05.000 And you know, if, uh...

01:16:06.000 Well, if necessary, as the President can call you an enemy combatant and they put you in jail forever.

01:16:12.000 Those kinds of things really need to be highlighted.

01:16:15.000 American people need to be sensitized to that kind of situation.

01:16:19.000 Ray, 20 years ago, could you have ever imagined that they would have mafia goons running around?

01:16:24.000 I mean, I guess it's happened before, but at this level.

01:16:27.000 And again, I wonder, how did they get, how did they assess and profile Individuals of this low caliber to go out and threaten women.

01:16:36.000 Yeah. Well, the thing is, Alex, and I think you'll probably appreciate this better than most, true information is really the Achilles heel of this whole mafia crowd.

01:16:49.000 And Tom Feeley has done yeoman service, putting out his almost daily publication, the Information Clearinghouse, Or he collects articles from the likes of you and me and others, and it's quite an assortment.

01:17:03.000 If you go through that every day, you are well informed in a way that you could never hope to be informed by watching TV or reading what's left of our newspapers.

01:17:12.000 So they don't like that intelligence briefing he's provided?

01:17:15.000 No, he's very dangerous.

01:17:16.000 He's the most dangerous of people because he's spreading truth around.

01:17:22.000 If you spread enough truth around that people become educated, and we've not reached that point yet, but when the Internet can be used to do this, and people stop watching Fox News at night and just learn the few buttons they have to click to find out what's on Information Clearinghouse, then this regime is doomed, and then Cheney and Bush are on their way to the Hague to be prosecuted as war criminals, which is what they are.

01:17:48.000 They've got to be desperate.

01:17:50.000 I mean, similar things have happened to me, but they've got to be desperate to think that threatening people's women is going to help them.

01:17:58.000 Yeah, well, you know what they've probably done is hired some sort of private detective firm to do the necessary without any strict guidelines.

01:18:08.000 That's what I said, contractors.

01:18:10.000 I assessed it in the last hour.

01:18:12.000 It's probably contractors.

01:18:13.000 Is that what you're saying?

01:18:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:18:15.000 They contract this stuff out so that nobody's caught with an FBI badge inside a house like this.

01:18:21.000 And, you know, they give them vague instructions to do what's necessary.

01:18:25.000 And then you have these kinds of threats against wives, against children, against sons.

01:18:31.000 And that's how this thing is played out.

01:18:33.000 You know, they told Tom's wife that they knew where her son lived and how many children he has and all that kind of stuff.

01:18:40.000 Just the worst of the worst.

01:18:43.000 It is the worst of the worst.

01:18:45.000 Ray, does it make your blood boil, or is it more just an icy determination?

01:18:49.000 Well, it's both.

01:18:50.000 I'm Irish, so my blood does boil rather quickly.

01:18:53.000 But I'm determined, as you are.

01:18:54.000 I'm sure it would expose this thing and stop it.

01:18:57.000 Ray McGovern, stay there.

01:18:58.000 We'll get into the big board, what's happening with Iran and false staged events on the other side. 0.88

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01:23:02.000 planet dot tv Talking to Rader in the break, he agrees that the Information Clearinghouse needs to speak out and make a big noise about this.

01:23:22.000 The poor fellow's wife is wanting him to shut up. 0.98

01:23:24.000 That is not what you do.

01:23:25.000 But we'll end that discussion here.

01:23:28.000 Ray McGovern, the Cy Hirsch info about Chaney wanting to attack a dozen targets, a dozen provocations.

01:23:35.000 Yeah, I can see them brainstorming this.

01:23:50.000 As a matter of fact, it's not necessary to construct live P.T. boats in an American shipyard and somehow insinuate them into the Gulf.

01:24:01.000 The Israelis are far better at this, and my guess is that if a shooting war starts, it will start with a provocation of that kind, where Israel will slip a little P.T. boat into the Gulf painted in Iranian colors with a big Iranian flag. 0.97

01:24:17.000 I think one of our Des Moines escorts, and then it will be on.

01:24:20.000 And that would be remote control, and they would claim suicide bombers were on board?

01:24:24.000 Sure, any way they could do it.

01:24:26.000 They could even fake intercepted communications.

01:24:29.000 It's really very dire in the Gulf.

01:24:32.000 It's chock full of ships.

01:24:34.000 And once this starts, the Iranians are hardly like the Iraqis. 0.99

01:24:38.000 We're going to lose a lot of ships and a lot of men.

01:24:40.000 The straits will be closed.

01:24:42.000 We'll all go bankrupt.

01:24:43.000 It's real. 1.00

01:24:43.000 Again, I can't conceive of a stupid plan. 1.00

01:24:46.000 That's a good idea. 0.99

01:24:46.000 And yet, if you look at the people running things, and there's still Cheney and Elliott Abrams, the neocon who is responsible for so much of this, the fellow in the White House who's running on Middle East policy, this is really a major threat. 0.99

01:25:02.000 And so a provocation is probably the way this is going to start.

01:25:06.000 And you talked about false flag before, Alex.

01:25:10.000 We know that the president himself, I'm talking about George W. Bush, proposed a false flag arrangement to the British on the 31st of January, 2003.

01:25:25.000 He was getting a little bit irritated at the fact that no weapons of mass destruction had been found, and I'm sure he realized that The intelligence people had taken his wishes at heart and constructed evidence where there was no real evidence of weapons of mass destruction.

01:25:45.000 And so he said to Tony Blair, and we have this in the British MemCon, I mean, you know, the British have not disavowed this.

01:25:52.000 He said to Tony Blair, three things we could do now.

01:25:55.000 One would be to paint a U-2, a U-2 spy plane.

01:26:01.000 With UN colors, and fly it over, you know, over the border, well past the no-fly zone, and have Saddam Hussein take some shots at it, and that would be reason for war, you know? 0.82

01:26:14.000 That's what we can do.

01:26:15.000 Well, there's a false flag operation.

01:26:18.000 It never got off the ground, but the other two things he had in mind were, you know, finding, in quotes, a defector who would talk about all these weapons of mass destruction, and the other one was simply assassinating Saddam Hussein.

01:26:31.000 So, you know, it's not surprising at all that the Vice President in particular would be talking about a dozen such schemes, more so since we also know that there was a plan to insert a bunch of Iraqis into one part of Iraq before the war, have them shoot up some folks in some police stations, have the Iraqi army come in and try to do battle with them.

01:26:58.000 They will meanwhile have declared a free Iraq and north-western Iraq, and we would come to their defense.

01:27:06.000 That was another sort of false flag or provocation that was planned.

01:27:11.000 That didn't get off the ground either.

01:27:13.000 So these folks think in Mafia terms, they think in the same terms.

01:27:18.000 This sounds harsh, but it's just factual.

01:27:22.000 This is exactly what Hitler did before invading Poland. 0.85

01:27:25.000 You know the story about dressing up Uh, some Storm Troopers in Polish uniforms. 0.74

01:27:30.000 Glywods. Yeah, having them, uh, you know, shoot up a radio station, or whatever it was, and that was the cause of his belly then.

01:27:37.000 And you know what, Alex?

01:27:39.000 The worst thing is, most Germans believed.

01:27:42.000 Most Germans wanted to believe what Hitler was saying. 0.61

01:27:45.000 War was necessary. 1.00

01:27:45.000 Why? Because Poland was a threat. 1.00

01:27:48.000 Now, you know, that's as far-fetched as saying Iran.

01:27:53.000 Well, it just came out two days ago in mainstream news, but got almost no attention.

01:27:57.000 These incredible things come out that Cheney ordered the CIA to create fake weapons information on Iraq.

01:28:06.000 Yeah, that's out of Ron Susskind's book, and Ron is as well plugged in in Washington as I heard, and that's saying a lot.

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01:32:16.000 I'm not looking for a fight here.

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01:32:56.000 I mean, these are all the classic things that Hitler and Stalin and every other thug did. 0.76

01:33:01.000 And I want to get into the latest developments with Iran with Ray McGovern and then take your calls and talk about whatever subjects he thinks are most important.

01:33:08.000 I've been kind of dominating discussion here, or at least the points that are being brought up.

01:33:12.000 But getting back to the police state, Ray, I just, in my heart of hearts, know that the American people are still good enough and not so distracted by mainstream television and media that's there to put them to sleep, to realize this is classical tyranny.

01:33:27.000 But sometimes, even knowing as much as I know about the world and studying this 16, 17 hours a day, I find it kind of just overwhelming sometimes, almost like sticker shock by the level of the tyranny, where Yeah, it's hard for me to believe this is happening, but it really is.

01:33:43.000 Do you ever, you know, studying other countries and other tyrannies, does it ever just hit you and shock you?

01:33:50.000 Well, it does indeed.

01:33:51.000 You know, I've watched the Soviet Union for 30 years, and a lot of this stuff, including the propaganda, Alex, it's exactly what I saw doing that, watching the Soviet Union.

01:34:02.000 You know, the biggest sea change that I've observed in my 45 years in Washington is the Is the fact that we no longer have, in any real sense, a free media.

01:34:12.000 And that's big.

01:34:13.000 That is very big.

01:34:14.000 We no longer have the kind of press or media that we had during Watergate, or during Vietnam, or since.

01:34:22.000 And this makes it all the more urgent for people like you and me to find ways to push the word out, because the American people are deprived of all this.

01:34:31.000 How many newspapers are going to run the story on Tom Feely tomorrow?

01:34:38.000 Zippo. You know, maybe one.

01:34:39.000 Maybe a McClatchy little report will.

01:34:42.000 But if you read the newspapers, you don't get it.

01:34:44.000 If you watch television, you don't get it.

01:34:47.000 If you listen to Prison Planet, other places like this, or you read Tom Feeley's Reps website, then you do get it.

01:34:56.000 The only problem is, how do we get enough people sensitized to the fact that if you have a computer, it's real, real simple to spend 15 minutes a day Is it a good indicator that they

01:35:27.000 are having to resort Well, let's get back to our point before, the one we were both making, and that is that the truth is what's going to get these guys.

01:35:50.000 The truth, very literally, as the Bible says, is what will keep us free.

01:35:55.000 So once you get a fellow like Tom Feely, And, you know, Healy is fearless.

01:36:01.000 You know, he'll publish this story about Cheney.

01:36:04.000 He'll publish anything that makes sense and can be documented.

01:36:08.000 And that is very, very fearful for the people of running this country, because the one thing the mafia doesn't need is exposure.

01:36:17.000 I've talked to a lot of other analysts, but I want to get your expert take on this, that the establishment is fighting the 1960s or 1950s war with that technology.

01:36:26.000 Uh, and that they thought they were secure because they bought up all the mainstream media and it consolidated that.

01:36:31.000 Uh, and that they kind of just poo-pooed the power of the alternative press.

01:36:35.000 But now, uh, they had underestimated its power.

01:36:38.000 They're just now starting to realize its power.

01:36:40.000 And by then, the genie's out of the bottle.

01:36:42.000 Uh, I mean, the information we're bringing out here, uh, is becoming a larger and larger minority beginning to verge on majority.

01:36:52.000 And, uh, that they're playing four or five steps behind.

01:36:55.000 Well, I think that's part of it, and I think that's why they want to make this sort of an object lesson.

01:37:01.000 That, look, you continue this kind of thing, you can end up like Mrs. Feeley, or like Tom, and have your place invaded by some contract quasi-coppers, and they'll have guns under their lapels, and they'll threaten the heck out of you.

01:37:16.000 So be scared.

01:37:17.000 Be scared.

01:37:18.000 Don't think you can do this with impunity.

01:37:21.000 I do think it's a good education of No, it's having the opposite effect, and that's what concerns me.

01:37:34.000 I don't have the illusion that the elite is invincible and has all the answers and never makes mistakes.

01:37:40.000 So much of the public, you know, tends to think that, but really, you've worked in and around these people before it was this corrupt.

01:37:46.000 You know they're just people as well, and that's what's even more scary.

01:37:49.000 In a way, it would be more assuring if they knew what they were doing and didn't make mistakes and, you know, were evil, but at least somehow were in control.

01:37:57.000 I mean, that's just a basic psychology there.

01:37:59.000 It's bad, but it's not as bad as they think they're in control, but they're not.

01:38:04.000 It seems like As you degrade a military and an intelligence network and turn the Cold War apparatus on the people, that the good guys are going to leave and say no and start fighting you like you and so many others.

01:38:15.000 And people I know in intelligence who are retired who aren't public, you know, they're all shaking their heads for years seeing what's happening.

01:38:21.000 So it seems to me like it's a brain drain.

01:38:23.000 They don't have that many quality people anymore and all they've got is a bunch of thugs. 0.79

01:38:28.000 Well, that's right.

01:38:29.000 And that's why you have people like my former colleagues in the CIA We're coming out now and telling people like Ron Suskind, who wrote this book, about what they were asked to do earlier on.

01:38:41.000 How they were asked to forge, now get this, to forge a letter which purported to show that Mohammed Atta, who, you know, led the hijackers, that he did his training in Iraq.

01:38:57.000 In other words, Cheney very much wanted to prove that Iraq was responsible for 9-11, Or at least to train the people who did 9-11, okay? 0.76

01:39:06.000 The link between Hussein and 9-11 was one of the things that sold the war, let's face it. 0.90

01:39:11.000 They even tried to connect Hussein with the anthrax stuff.

01:39:15.000 It's very, very clear.

01:39:16.000 It was all scare tactic.

01:39:18.000 Now, when you have Cheney doing these kinds of things, it's really incumbent upon the rest of us to expose them, and my friends in the CIA have exposed that.

01:39:28.000 Now, what'll happen?

01:39:29.000 Well, this guy's book hasn't got much play at all in the mainstream media so far, but if we keep pressing, you know, if we say, you know, it's not quite right to have a letter that is backdated to 2001, okay, before the 9-11, which says that Hussein and his Iraqi friends were training Muhammad Ata.

01:39:48.000 It's not quite right to have that surface in the Western press after it had been forged by the CIA.

01:39:56.000 As a matter of fact, It's not only not quite right, it's illegal.

01:39:59.000 The CIA is barred by law from concocting things like that designed to influence public opinion in this country.

01:40:07.000 So, what one has to do is get George Tenet, the head of the CIA at the time, on the stand.

01:40:15.000 He has already perjured himself once, and I've noted that in an article I wrote.

01:40:21.000 And very briefly, it's during the 9-11 commission proceedings.

01:40:27.000 He, having had this agreement with the President for a long time, that he would not embarrass the President by telling the world how many times he had won the President about 9-11, and in return for that, the President would, you know, praise him up and down, not can him, and, you know, eventually give him the highest civilian medal that he could give.

01:40:49.000 Now, George Tenet was pledged to defend the President, so when he was asked before the 9-11 Commission, after he was sworn, Sworn in, you're speaking under oath.

01:40:58.000 Now, what did you say to the President during October?

01:41:01.000 You know, before...

01:41:02.000 I'm not in October, but before, in August, before September 11th.

01:41:06.000 You know, I never talked to the President.

01:41:09.000 And Romer, one of the commissioners, said, you never talked to the President?

01:41:13.000 No, I never saw the President.

01:41:14.000 He was in, he was in Crawford, and, you know, I took some leave around here.

01:41:18.000 Are you sure?

01:41:19.000 Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.

01:41:20.000 Well, that evening, Tenet spokesman I just want to make a little note to the 9-11 Commission.

01:41:26.000 Oh, the head of the CIA, George Tenet, misspoke.

01:41:31.000 He did see the President on the 14th of August, and he saw him at the end of August, too.

01:41:39.000 And we've since found out that he saw him one time in between there, in Crawford.

01:41:43.000 Two times in Crawford, one time when Bush finally got back to Washington on the 31st of August.

01:41:50.000 So what was that?

01:41:51.000 That was a lie under oath.

01:41:53.000 You know, it's not likely that the tenant forgot about that, because he waxes eloquent about that visit to Crawford, and how he marveled at the fauna and the flora, and how George Bush took him around in his Jeep and all that stuff, you know?

01:42:06.000 He says, it's my first time in Crawford, and, you know, this boy from Queens, man, that was really, I mean, it's incredible that he would have forgotten that.

01:42:13.000 So, he perjured himself under oath.

01:42:15.000 Well, it was all over TV when he was there.

01:42:17.000 It was all over the news.

01:42:18.000 Now, now, you just said something, and again, so much is happening.

01:42:21.000 I miss a lot of things, and I read the mainstream news reports, the blurbs that came out, and I mentioned on MSNBC of the CIA being ordered to manufacture connections to Iraq and 9-11, but are you saying that Bush, and see, I'm embarrassed I missed this, or did I hear you correctly?

01:42:41.000 That Bush was ordering the Cheney was ordering the CIA to create fake connections to Mohammed Anna before 9-11 to Iraq?

01:42:52.000 That is smoking gun! 1.00

01:42:54.000 No, I didn't mean to say that.

01:42:56.000 I'm saying that before 9-11, George Bush was so thoroughly briefed by George Tenet that when the balloon went up at 9-11, George Bush was faced with a very difficult decision.

01:43:12.000 Here's George Tenet with, like, 36 serious warnings that he'd issued to the President over the last six weeks, and he has the goods on him, and so there had to be a deal.

01:43:22.000 So Bush went out to the CIA, you may remember this, he went out a week after, and he said, George Tenet is the best DCI we have, the CIA has kept us safe, and we have the best intelligence service in the world, in return for which In return for which, George Tenet pledged that he would not make available to the general public, or even the 9-11 Commission, the number of times that he had warned the President, you know?

01:43:52.000 Yeah, bin Laden determined to attack memos, all those lies now, and then Rice was caught lying under oath about that as well.

01:43:59.000 Expanding on that, it just came out ABC News two days ago, and a bunch of other places it was reported, that the White House Uh, ordered the FBI Director Mueller to lie and say that the anthrax came from Iraq when they knew it was U.S. government weaponized from the start of that.

01:44:18.000 So comment on that, Mr. McGovern, and then give us your take on, uh, this latest apparent patsy dying in government custody and Well,

01:44:41.000 on the anthrax thing, you know, it's not surprising.

01:44:55.000 surprising, but it's no less infuriating.

01:44:58.000 What happened, of course, was the White House instructed people like Tom Brokow and others to, I'm sorry, that has to do with the other one, what they did was instruct people to tie the anthrax to Iraq.

01:45:13.000 There's absolutely no evidence of that at all.

01:45:17.000 And yet people did tie it to Iraq, and that was one of the most fearful things, the Cheney was able to play on to justify, in quotes, the attack on Iraq.

01:45:30.000 Would the White House do this?

01:45:32.000 Of course they would.

01:45:33.000 They've done all manner of surreptitious and illegal things.

01:45:36.000 And the mainstream media, as I mentioned before, was all too eager to play the game.

01:45:41.000 So the anthrax also became directly associated with Iraq because the White House told their favorite people in the media, without any evidence at all, That it looked like Iraq might have been behind that as well.

01:45:55.000 So, you know, even...

01:45:57.000 Who is it?

01:45:59.000 That fellow that's on late at night.

01:46:02.000 The fellow with the ten major questions, or ten major...

01:46:06.000 Oh, I can't remember his name now, but he interviewed McCain.

01:46:11.000 Okay, it'll come to me in a second.

01:46:12.000 He interviewed McCain a week or so, and McCain said, you know, there's evidence that Iraq is behind this, and if that's behind I'm saying behind the anthrax.

01:46:23.000 Oberman. And now it was the, it was that fellow Letterman, Letterman.

01:46:29.000 Oh yeah, Letterman, sure.

01:46:30.000 Yeah, he had Letterman on there, and it's on the web.

01:46:32.000 I've seen it, it's great.

01:46:34.000 Yeah, where McCain quite gratuitously says, you know, this information that Iraq was involved in this, and if that's the truth, well, we'll have to put an end to that right away, you know, that kind of stuff.

01:46:48.000 So yeah, it was one of these what we call propaganda offenses, and there were people in the CIA who were seconded to the White House to make sure they knew how to do covert propaganda correctly.

01:47:04.000 It's amazing.

01:47:06.000 uh... and and and that the american people still have no idea that it's not just lies about w_m_d_ speech it's all of the fake documents in the manufacturing i mean specifically on the anthrax so the white house is on the drug that fights it for each before the anthrax show

01:47:20.000 Well, clearly it was a government worker.

01:47:36.000 because the strain that was developed was far too sophisticated to come from any case

01:47:43.000 That's what I mean.

01:48:08.000 To read all the reporting on this fellow that they've wrapped up, it stinks to high heaven, as we would say in the Bronx, but it seems to me equally likely, at least, that the White House seized on this and tried to associate it with Iraq right away, which, of course, they did, rather than plot the whole thing.

01:48:27.000 But, you know, we really have to get to the bottom of it.

01:48:29.000 The thought that this guy acted alone is a little bit stretchy for me.

01:48:33.000 It stretches my credulity.

01:48:34.000 Israel molds military option for Iran strikes.

01:48:38.000 And I keep seeing the similar headline.

01:48:40.000 Israel's got to get their nukes. 0.95

01:48:43.000 Well, of course, what Americans don't know is you suggested that Iran doesn't have any nukes and won't have any nukes for a couple of years yet, if then.

01:49:05.000 Sixteen U.S. intelligence agencies have pronounced in a formal document, unanimously, that Iran stopped its nuclear weapons-related program, not the enrichment of uranium, but the nuclear weapons-related aspects, in mid-2003, and that as of this time last year, they had not re-established it.

01:49:29.000 So when the President, Vice President, and other people say, or talk blithely about Iranian nukes, Number one, there aren't any.

01:49:36.000 And number two, our best intelligence is that they stopped working on nuclear-related, on nuclear weapons-related stuff.

01:49:42.000 That's really important.

01:49:44.000 There's plenty more here.

01:49:46.000 The situation in Iraq is specifically related to this.

01:49:50.000 And if we have a little bit more time, Alex, I'd like to...

01:49:52.000 Yes, sir.

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01:54:38.000 And that's this, I don't think people working for the establishment, compartmentalized, who, you know, are carrying out one piece of evil and another piece of evil and it all combines together, I don't think they understand, you know, it's all a big fun thing, they're in charge, they're tough, they're intimidating women and children, they're threatening people, they're spying on people.

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01:54:58.000 You know, they want to shut down the opposition, but once the tyranny's in place, it's because they want to loot economies, rob the population, Well, the most important thing for me is how,

01:55:27.000 with the withdrawal of habeas corpus, with the recent ruling from the U.S. Circuit Court in the 4th District, Uh, with other things that the President has, uh, said he can do, uh, our government can say, all right, Alex, uh, the President has named you a enemy combatant, pick you up from your studio and take you to some cell in South Carolina, keep you there for the rest of your life.

01:55:54.000 That's possible.

01:55:55.000 That's possible under the Patriot Act.

01:55:57.000 And it has, as I say, just been reinforced, not only by the court decision I just mentioned, But by what we can call now the Hamden principle, where that chauffeur for Bin Laden, okay, no material support for terrorism, and yet he's been convicted of this and can be put in that, or will be kept for life.

01:56:21.000 So these principles have been established now.

01:56:23.000 Nobody said much in our courts.

01:56:26.000 And the Congress, of course, is completely punted on all of this.

01:56:31.000 The only hopeful sign that I see, well, there's really two.

01:56:34.000 One is a group of intelligence analysts who had the guts to speak out at the end of 2007 and say, hey, guess what?

01:56:44.000 Actually, it was 2000.

01:56:46.000 Yeah. Anyhow, the November estimate which said, you know what we've been telling you about Iran and nuclear weapons?

01:56:55.000 Well, they stopped their program in mid-2003 and haven't restored it yet.

01:57:00.000 That's big, because the President didn't want to hear that.

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01:57:05.000 Guess why it was that that got out into the news?

01:57:09.000 It got out into the news because our professional military, I'm thinking of Admiral Fallon, who has since been cashiered, but I'm also thinking about the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mike Mullen, insisted that it be put out there.

01:57:23.000 Besides, Congress had been given early copies, and they were going to put it out, and the administration didn't.

01:57:29.000 So there's a really hopeful development.

01:57:32.000 There's still some honest people in our government trying to tell the truth, even though it cuts, of course, the grain of what the government wants to do.

01:57:39.000 Absolutely. We got good people everywhere.

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01:59:34.000 I forgot to add that in Terror Storm, Ray McGovern, interviewing him in there about the very intelligence report about no WMDs, no nuclear program, abandoned in 2003.

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01:59:47.000 He's also in the upcoming film, Jason Burma's interviewing him for it, Fabled Enemies, where we look at the Israelis infiltrating our government and Well, Alex,

02:00:23.000 The basis of the problem, really, is that our leaders back seven years ago or eight years ago, including our military leaders, had no concept, had no lessons learned from this experience of Vietnam.

02:00:37.000 And that, very simply, is you don't go invading another country and think you can occupy it and bend them to your will without having the kind of insurgency that is sure to defeat you.

02:00:49.000 I mean, it happened to the British, it happened to the French, And it happened to us in Vietnam.

02:00:54.000 And a mere 30 years goes by, everybody forgets that the military is not even trained to do counter-insurgency anymore, and they go into Iraq.

02:01:02.000 Now, what they expected in terms of the reaction of the Iraqi people, I don't know, but they were really terribly naive if they thought they could make this thing work. 1.00

02:01:12.000 Now, people have to realize that it wasn't weapons of mass destruction, clearly.

02:01:16.000 It wasn't ties between Iraq and Al-Qaeda, clearly.

02:01:20.000 What was it?

02:01:21.000 Well, I've been saying for five years now, it was an acronym, OIL.

02:01:25.000 Okay, O for oil, I for Israel, and L for logistics.

02:01:30.000 The permanent military bases that would be set up there that the U.S. could use to dominate that area, take care of the oil, and take care of Israel. 0.82

02:01:38.000 Now, what happened?

02:01:40.000 Well, there were no terrorists to speak of in Iraq before.

02:01:44.000 Now there are, it's teeming with terrorists, and is Israel safer?

02:01:48.000 Of course not.

02:01:49.000 Will Israel be safe if U.S. troops leave?

02:01:53.000 Of course not.

02:01:54.000 So it's very, very much in Israel's interest to have us embedded, so to speak, in the Middle East for a very long time to come.

02:02:02.000 How best to do that?

02:02:04.000 Well, the best way, of course, would be to get us involved in a war with Iran. 1.00

02:02:08.000 Then we'd be there for the duration.

02:02:10.000 Then there would be a draft year.

02:02:11.000 then we'd have all kinds of folks, all kinds of casualties, and it would be very easy to stir up American, quote, patriotism, end quote, to support yet a wider war.

02:02:21.000 And besides all that, of course, as the Israelis look at it, they've only got five months. 0.93

02:02:27.000 I mean, Bush and Cheney are going to be gone.

02:02:29.000 And they've made it very explicit that the president has promised to take care of Iraq, as they put it, before he leaves office.

02:02:37.000 So I have this window of five months.

02:02:40.000 And if I were in that kind of frame of mind by these Israeli leaders, which I'm not, of course, but the way they look at the world...

02:02:48.000 And the way they look at their history, what has worked in the past, is you provoke something.

02:02:53.000 You provoke something to make a wider war.

02:02:55.000 The U.S. is bound and determined, under Bush at least, to come to Israel's aid.

02:03:00.000 And we've got a major war going, where most of Iran's nuclear facilities, whether they're weapons-related or not, will be destroyed.

02:03:08.000 And they'll be nice.

02:03:09.000 giving them another 10 years.

02:03:11.000 It's a terribly myopic policy that Israel is following and being sort of encouraged to follow by our government because it doesn't make Israel safer.

02:03:21.000 What to learn from the last few years should be that Israel has to stop its attitude toward destroying everyone who could pose a threat. 0.78

02:03:31.000 And sitting down at the negotiation table like most civilized countries do and working out arrangements where people can live in peace by mutually respecting one another.

02:03:42.000 Ray McGovern, stay there.

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02:07:03.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

02:07:09.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

02:07:12.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents I want to get Bray McGovern's take on this.

02:07:31.000 And basically, Israel's put this in their newspapers.

02:07:34.000 They've made it known that if Barack Obama is elected in November, that they will attack earlier.

02:07:45.000 They will attack during the last three months that Bush has in office.

02:07:50.000 November, December, into January.

02:07:55.000 Probably right after the election.

02:07:56.000 If McCain is elected, they may wait a little bit.

02:07:59.000 And that's A. B, from the inside sources you have and from studying the situation, Remy Govern, would there be a difference under, A, Barack Obama?

02:08:12.000 I mean, earlier he'd said a lot of things, now he's backtracking on all of them.

02:08:16.000 Warrantless spying, war, all of it.

02:08:18.000 He said publicly, don't just think if I get elected that Iran's off the hook, you know, we'll support something, we'll support Israel.

02:08:24.000 So, there are the questions.

02:08:26.000 A, When do you think the war is on, if it's on, depending on who gets elected, and B, is there a difference between the candidates?

02:08:33.000 Well, let me put it this way.

02:08:36.000 I see a perfect storm brewing for October, maybe September.

02:08:42.000 We're talking, you know, one month away or two months away.

02:08:46.000 First off, at that point there will only be three months left of Bush and Cheney.

02:08:51.000 Secondly, we'll be It'll be much clearer than it is now.

02:08:57.000 Nobody seems to wise up to the fact that we've been invited out of Iraq and that the surge has failed.

02:09:04.000 The surge has failed because the surge was designed to give some breathing space for Iraqi politicians to put it all together so that they could have a place that we could leave. 0.82

02:09:16.000 So we'll be no longer in Iraq in the force we are now this time next year and that gives the Israelis connections, okay? 0.97

02:09:25.000 Now, Abizade.

02:09:26.000 Abizade takes over in September.

02:09:29.000 Who does he report to?

02:09:30.000 He reports to Cheney.

02:09:31.000 There's chapter and verse I can cite about that.

02:09:33.000 It's clear that when Cheney tells him to lie, for example, about the Iranian provision, so-called, of weapons in Iraq, he lies.

02:09:41.000 He can't prove it, and later the press forgets all about it.

02:09:45.000 The fourth element here has to do with McCain.

02:09:48.000 Now, this is not a necessary element of this equation, but my suggestion is That McCain is likely to have his numbers in the toilet by this time.

02:09:59.000 They're not so good now.

02:10:01.000 I don't think, with the economy just falling apart, I think his numbers are going to be so low that there'll be some sort of effort to see some magical way to raise them.

02:10:12.000 And what could do that better than have a wider war? 0.74

02:10:15.000 I mean, if a terrorist incident would boost McCain's number, well, so much the more would a wider war.

02:10:22.000 So there we have it.

02:10:23.000 Three months left.

02:10:24.000 We're no longer in Iraq, coming this next year.

02:10:28.000 Abizade is gone.

02:10:30.000 We have, if I said Abizade, I meant Petraeus, of course.

02:10:34.000 And Petraeus is in there.

02:10:35.000 He reports to Cheney.

02:10:36.000 By the way, Cheney and the White House can order our commanders, like the chief of CENTCOM, which will of course be Petraeus.

02:10:48.000 They can order them to make a war without having to go through Mullen.

02:10:54.000 That's the law.

02:10:56.000 The JCS, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is sort of like an information CC on this order.

02:11:03.000 The White House can bypass that and simply give the order to betray us.

02:11:09.000 So what we have here is a very delicate situation.

02:11:13.000 I'm looking at it mostly from the Israeli perspective because I've become convinced that Mullen is probably strong enough, that is, the uniformed military is probably strong enough to resist an order from Cheney and Bush to start the war themselves.

02:11:31.000 But once the Israelis, because they're the ones that feel this is their last, best chance... 0.99

02:11:35.000 Once they pull the trigger.

02:11:36.000 Once they pull the trigger, we're in there with both feet, and the President has promised, and he keeps calling Israel our ally.

02:11:42.000 There is no mutual defense treaty between U.S. and Israel.

02:11:46.000 People should know that.

02:11:48.000 So, if the Israelis want to get us involved in a big war, we should tell them, as Mullen has repeatedly told them, not to do it.

02:11:55.000 The only problem is, Cheney tells them, yeah, go ahead and do it.

02:11:59.000 So, Ray McGovern, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but from what you're saying, I'm getting the intel you're getting, and just looking at the scene, you're saying October is the prime time.

02:12:09.000 You're thinking they may move before the election, not thinking they'll have the political power as complete lame ducks to attack after the election.

02:12:16.000 I think that's likely, and there's the business about helping McCain.

02:12:20.000 You know, they would think that that would enhance his chances.

02:12:24.000 And we've had Republican memos.

02:12:26.000 We've had his chief advisor salivating over a war or a terrorist attack.

02:12:31.000 Yeah, so all those things.

02:12:33.000 But now, you know, this is guesswork, pretty much.

02:12:36.000 This is an estimate on my part.

02:12:39.000 Others, whom I respect, fully expect this kind of thing to happen.

02:12:44.000 And the way I suggest it will happen, But not until after the election, when McCain has already lost.

02:12:50.000 I'm less persuaded that that's likely.

02:12:52.000 I think it's more likely to happen in October or even in September, surprise.

02:12:56.000 So the debate within your colleagues isn't when they're, I mean, isn't if they're going to attack, but when they're going to attack.

02:13:01.000 Most of us feel that an attack is more likely than not, you know.

02:13:05.000 And you know, Alex, just to take two steps back here, you know, since when is it respectable for a country to have open discourse about Oh, I wonder when our country will attack Iran. 0.95

02:13:18.000 Uh, do you think it would be before the election, or maybe it'll be better after?

02:13:23.000 I mean, it used to be.

02:13:24.000 I mean, I'm not all that old, but I remember a time when attacking another country was frowned upon, you know?

02:13:32.000 I mean, what's become of our discourse here, where we just simply say, well, we'll attack Iran. 0.99

02:13:36.000 The only question is when.

02:13:38.000 That's awful.

02:13:39.000 So it's a foregone conclusion.

02:13:41.000 Ron Paul says on the Hill, the only debate is...

02:13:45.000 Will the U.S. immediately aid Israel in the first attack, or once the attack begins, and Iran no doubt responds in some way, then they'll shriek and say, like an elephant to a mouse, oh my God, they fought back! 0.83

02:13:57.000 This is the greatest crime in history, and that they're, he says, colleagues he's known for decades are walking around with self-satisfied smiles, talking about how wonderful it's going to be to nuke them.

02:14:07.000 I mean, it's just infantile mindlessness.

02:14:11.000 Yeah, I have a lot of adjectives for it, Alex, but I can't use them on the air.

02:14:17.000 Well, I want to get to some calls, and I don't want to...

02:14:19.000 You know, this is so important, and we've gone further.

02:14:21.000 Let's go to the bottom of the R.A., and then I promise I'll let you go, because I've got a few more questions before we do take three or four calls that are lined up here.

02:14:28.000 Just looking at the Israeli mindset of, you know, intelligent, smart, but incredibly arrogant, incredibly self-assured. 1.00

02:14:36.000 You know, I think there's the M.O. there throughout history.

02:14:39.000 And, uh, but you would think that after a few thousand Hezbollah, which they're angry at Iran, they believe, backing it, and obviously probably were, uh, kicking their butt in their supposed invincible super battle tank, and they were, the Israelis were even using, 0.85

02:14:54.000 there's video of them loading nerve gas canisters into artillery, still getting beat in a checkerboard, uh, infantry defense with just rockets, rocket-propelled grenades, How does Israel think they can take on Iran if they can't even beat a Hezbollah militia? 0.90

02:15:11.000 Well, that's just it, Alex.

02:15:12.000 It wouldn't be Israel taking on Iran. 0.70

02:15:15.000 It would be Israel and us.

02:15:17.000 And that's what they would depend on.

02:15:19.000 Is there a risk there?

02:15:21.000 Well, depending on how they judge the relative credibility of Mullen, on the one hand, who has said, you know, don't start something like this because we're not going to get in there with you.

02:15:32.000 Uh, and particularly don't have the kind of provocation that happened with the USS Liberty.

02:15:37.000 He even raised the USS Liberty incident with the Israelis. 0.77

02:15:41.000 Oh, that's incredible.

02:15:42.000 Flesh that out.

02:15:42.000 I mean, so much is happening daily, uh, that, that I, I, I mentioned that but hardly covered it, uh, Monday.

02:15:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:15:48.000 Talk about that.

02:15:49.000 That's incredible.

02:15:50.000 You know, well, he gratuitously said to the Israelis, look, uh, you know, uh, you almost sunk the USS Liberty on the 8th of June, uh, 1967.

02:16:01.000 We don't want that to happen again.

02:16:03.000 So, you know, you've got to be really careful.

02:16:06.000 Now, he didn't come right out and say, whatever you do, don't think you can sink one of our ships and start a war between us and Iran.

02:16:14.000 But that's the way he put it.

02:16:16.000 Now, for a naval officer to finally raise this with the Israelis, after our Navy has been so cowardly, and I say that word advisedly, so cowardly, and our administration and Congress have been so cowardly not to protest to the Israelis for the deliberate killing of 34 seamen and the deliberate wounding of 171 seamen on the 8th of June, 1967. 0.52

02:16:40.000 You know, to have an admiral finally raised this gives me some courage, gives me some hope that this guy's got nerves of steel.

02:16:47.000 The only downside about all that, of course, is that, you know, they can look at Mullen, and they can see him protest, as he has three times since he was in Israel, that, you know, we don't want a third front.

02:16:59.000 We don't want a third front.

02:17:01.000 I mean, he's protesting.

02:17:02.000 Not that the Israelis already told those.

02:17:05.000 He's trying to tell Congress.

02:17:06.000 He's trying to tell the White House, no, not a third front, okay?

02:17:09.000 But who are the Israelis listening to? 0.99

02:17:12.000 Well, I know who they're listening to. 1.00

02:17:14.000 They're listening to Dick Cheney, and they're listening to Elliot Abrams, and all those idiots. 1.00

02:17:23.000 They are literally divorced from reality. 1.00

02:17:28.000 If this whole idea is about inserting U.S. bases in that part of the world, if it's about having special rights or special control over the oil, well, they'll give it their best shot.

02:17:40.000 And if it doesn't work, well, they go out of office in January.

02:17:43.000 They go off to hunt and live in Crawford or wherever, and they'll be left to the rest of us. 0.52

02:17:52.000 Well, you talk about the economy imploding.

02:17:56.000 Every analyst, I mean, I've seen no one who has said that it's going to make the economy better.

02:18:00.000 In fact, everybody we've talked to, economists say that this will probably push into a depression.

02:18:05.000 Well, you haven't talked to the military-industrial complex, I'll bet, Alex, because they stand to make megabucks out of a new war.

02:18:13.000 No, you're quite right.

02:18:14.000 I mean, it would be a disaster.

02:18:16.000 And what I can't quite figure out is why the European leaders And even Russia and China, to what extent, seem so blase about all this stuff.

02:18:26.000 I would expect, maybe it's being suppressed, but I would expect them to be speaking out very loudly.

02:18:31.000 Well, the Russians have said they're letting us get into something that'll destroy us. 1.00

02:18:34.000 It's kind of seen as, well, let the idiots do it. 1.00

02:18:37.000 I'm afraid that's correct. 1.00

02:18:39.000 And besides, if the price of oil goes up, so do the Russian Treasury.

02:18:46.000 Alright, I'm going to talk to Ray McGovern during the break.

02:18:49.000 Earlier he said I could have him as long as I wanted, but I don't want to abuse his time.

02:18:53.000 This is all so important, what we're discussing here.

02:18:55.000 So much is coming out.

02:18:57.000 I'm going to talk to him during the break and see how long he can stay with us so we can take calls.

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02:23:04.000 Come, your masters of war.

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02:23:14.000 Ray's gonna be with us till 45N.

02:23:19.000 Again, I just state the fact that it's so amazing they're using the Army to spy on Americans and provocateur and private goons, no doubt, to go threaten people's wives for news websites.

02:23:32.000 And to threaten me and just all the craziness.

02:23:37.000 How do these people not know they're the bad guys?

02:23:39.000 Well, they've bought into, we're doing the right thing, terrorists hit us, and we've got to shut everybody up, it's against the war, we've got to ban protests because it's against the war.

02:23:47.000 I'll never forget the Deputy Attorney General in the Oakland Tribune, just about, well, right on the eve of the Gulf War, the second one in 2003, And I'll never forget Mr. Calhoun in the paper saying, we're going to ban protest statewide because this war, this was a Democratic Deputy Attorney General, the war is against Al Qaeda and so protesting a war against Al Qaeda is aiding terrorists and so we're going to ban protest.

02:24:12.000 That was in the Oakland Tribune.

02:24:13.000 I read it over and over again on air.

02:24:15.000 We even tried to get him on the show.

02:24:17.000 It was an official press release we got from him, press conference he gave.

02:24:20.000 You know, that's the attitude.

02:24:22.000 That's the chilling effect they want, really, in both parties.

02:24:25.000 And Ray McGovern, we're going to the calls here in a moment, but that's my final question for you before we go to calls is, do you see any hope if Barack Obama is elected?

02:24:33.000 Because I, frankly...

02:24:34.000 Yeah, Alex, I would see it more as their rhetoric.

02:24:51.000 Some of the things that have disappointed me greatly We're good to

02:25:23.000 go. You stay in Iraq forever?

02:25:25.000 Well, not forever, just a hundred years.

02:25:27.000 That's not hyperbole.

02:25:29.000 That's the way he sees it.

02:25:31.000 And that, you know, our commitment in Iraq is going to so roil the American people over the next couple of years, if it continues, that we will have the equivalent of an insurrection, and then you're going to see a repression full-time.

02:25:45.000 Well, McCain just said, as you know, two weeks ago, that, oh, we're going to have a national draft if we're hit by terrorists again.

02:25:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:25:52.000 You can see where they're coming at things.

02:25:54.000 McCain, I don't think, can really speak, can really think in geopolitical terms.

02:26:00.000 And Obama has said a couple of things indicating that he realizes that, you know, the roots of terror, the swamp in which terrorists breed, have to do with grievances that they consider to be legitimate, and many of them are legitimate.

02:26:15.000 If you don't address those, you know, it's like shooting mosquitoes coming out of the swamp.

02:26:20.000 Rather than draining the swamp.

02:26:21.000 Why do you think the Republicans put somebody forward like McCain?

02:26:27.000 I mean, the guy has the charisma of a Junebug. 0.98

02:26:30.000 He doesn't... 0.96

02:26:31.000 I mean, he comes off as completely mentally ill. 0.84

02:26:35.000 Well, he's got a pretty wife, and look at the others. 0.90

02:26:38.000 I mean, again, if I compare to what?

02:26:40.000 I mean, the others are...

02:26:42.000 You know, I watch the others, and I, you know, I'll spare any comment on them, but...

02:26:47.000 Uh, here's McCain.

02:26:48.000 You know, the surge, you know, his big thing, of course, is the surge.

02:26:53.000 And what people don't realize is that the president himself was very specific when he explained the reason for the surge, and I quote him, it is to create breathing space to help make a political reconciliation possible.

02:27:08.000 Now, that's what he said.

02:27:10.000 And if that was the real intention, then it hasn't been achieved because just yesterday, Yesterday, the Iraqi parliament went on vacation for a month without approving an election law, without approving an arrangement to share the oil revenue, without approving anything.

02:27:29.000 They're no closer than they were 15 months ago.

02:27:32.000 And they've asked the U.S. to leave, proving that they're running nothing.

02:27:36.000 And on top of that, they admit what the surge really is, is paying off the different factions hundreds of millions apiece every few months.

02:27:46.000 And I was talking to a special forces colonel When I was up in DC covering things I literally had the spooks Asking me if I planned anything violent and then introducing me to the special forces colonel With his high and tight haircut.

02:27:59.000 It was going and they started trying to sell me right?

02:28:01.000 I mean if this is I guess like they were the KGB trying to recruit me there in the restaurant.

02:28:05.000 It was ridiculous going You know Alex the surge is working and I go you're paying them all off and they went into telling me how great it was I mean, that's how amateur is It is now, Ray, as the guys that are following me one day are then coming after me trying to be my friend in the bar the next.

02:28:19.000 Yeah, and what most people don't realize, and we said this, some of us said this from the start, is the surge had one purpose, and that was to avoid a definitive defeat for U.S. forces before Cheney and Bush left office.

02:28:33.000 In that sense, it's worked beautifully for them.

02:28:35.000 You put 30,000 more troops in there, you're going to prevent a definitive defeat.

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02:31:23.000 Pornography, adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, corporate theft, lust and greed are running rampant all over America. 0.99

02:31:33.000 Which was once declared a Christian nation. 1.00

02:31:36.000 When will it all end?

02:31:38.000 In slavery to the New World Order? 0.79

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02:32:00.000 5-1-6-8-7-3-6 I'm very thankful for Ray McGovern giving us this much time today.

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02:33:25.000 Let's go ahead and talk to John in Ohio, holding patiently for Ray McGovern.

02:33:29.000 Go ahead, John.

02:33:30.000 Hi, Ray.

02:33:32.000 I want to talk about an important article on InformationClearingHouse.info.

02:33:38.000 A comment entitled, Covert Ops to Overthrow Iran's Government.

02:33:43.000 Covert Ops to Overthrow Iran's Government.

02:33:45.000 I just wanted, in passing, to mention that I believe that Obama, as he's often referred to on WSWS.org, as the best asset the neocon warmongers have, and the Democrats as their best asset, because they are colluding.

02:34:01.000 And I think that if we're going to protest at the Democratic Convention, we've got to Cut through all of this nutty stuff about him being some kind of a progressive or a leftist or a Marxist.

02:34:11.000 This is insane stuff.

02:34:13.000 He is, as you said, slavishly pushing every bit of the saber-rattling and whitewash of Israeli aggression, persecution, and saber-rattling.

02:34:23.000 And I think that has to be exposed.

02:34:25.000 That has to be the constant theme.

02:34:27.000 That the Democrats and Obama are the best asset for Bush warmongering.

02:34:34.000 But this article on information clearinghouse.info, I want to preface it by saying that I called George Norrie last week and I brought up this outrageous plan to kill American soldiers and false flag us into a war with Iran.

02:34:50.000 I've also mentioned on national programs, Terrorist Storm promoted that.

02:34:55.000 I'm on the left, I have discriminates with Mr. Jones, but I was appalled To hear probably the most rabid neocon israeli agent, CI agent, warmonger on the Monday program, Jerome Corsi.

02:35:12.000 And this article on information, clearinghouse.info, details a lot of his connections to some of the most Israeli operations, the Israeli Zionist operations, the Central Intelligence Agency, though he denies it.

02:35:27.000 His propaganda that would make even Cheney Blush with shame that the Iranians have got a bomb that they want to plant in the United States and New York and blow us up with an atomic bomb. 0.58

02:35:38.000 This kind of stuff is the worst kind of arson propaganda and I would hope that Mr. Jones was doing such great work And exposing all this will not sabotage his own efforts in that respect.

02:35:50.000 We have Dr. Corcion, who you can't prove is a CIA operative.

02:35:55.000 I disagree with him on his stance with war.

02:35:58.000 I disagree with Naomi Wolf.

02:35:59.000 I'm not a leftist.

02:36:01.000 But I have a lot of different views, a lot of perspectives on this show.

02:36:05.000 Okay? And so obsessing over that all day.

02:36:08.000 We're trying to give people a wide spectrum look at things.

02:36:11.000 But thank you for the call, John.

02:36:12.000 Do you have any comments on that, Ray McGovern?

02:36:14.000 Well, John and Alex, I find it really interesting that John would be citing informationclearinghouse.info because that is John Feeley's website, the one that we started talking about earlier today.

02:36:31.000 So he's getting a smattering of all manner of different perspectives from that website, and it is crucial that that stay up and that we do what we can to prevent him from being further harassed.

02:36:43.000 As far as the Democrats are concerned, if you go to the Denver protest, I would protest against Mrs. Pelosi and Jay Rockefeller, both of them well aware of the covert actions on torture, on illegal eavesdropping, on A, B, C, and D of all this.

02:37:05.000 They were fully briefed and they not only approved, but they clapped their hands and they kept it all secret from the rest of us.

02:37:13.000 And so you ask yourself why they're against impeachment?

02:37:17.000 Simple. One of the reasons, one of the main reasons is any thorough investigation would disclose that they were co-conspirators.

02:37:25.000 They were accomplices.

02:37:27.000 Yeah, that's how tyranny works, is that once people sign on to torture or illegal wars of aggression, then they feel like, you know, they've already robbed one bank, why not rob ten more?

02:37:38.000 Sure, and we're still, Alex, you know, worthy to deny that.

02:37:41.000 Well, you know, we just happened to be monitoring your phone that day, Mrs. Pelosi, so don't deny this.

02:37:50.000 We've got the goods on you.

02:37:51.000 So it all works just the way J. Edgar Hoover used to proceed, and it all works just the way That's the way we try to prevent it from working.

02:37:59.000 When we passed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the FISA, back in 1978, to prevent precisely this kind of thing.

02:38:07.000 Yes, let's take another call.

02:38:09.000 Kurt in Pennsylvania.

02:38:10.000 You're on the air, Kurt.

02:38:11.000 Hi, Kurt.

02:38:12.000 Good morning.

02:38:13.000 Hi, Alex, and Mr. McGovern.

02:38:15.000 I just want to say you guys are American heroes of the highest order, and it's an honor to speak to you.

02:38:19.000 I've been on the streets as an activist for over 16 years, That's the core of what we're having here.

02:38:28.000 We have a thousand different problems, and at its core is a bunch of lazy citizens.

02:38:32.000 So in that effort, we're trying to create something called the Common Sense Revival.

02:38:36.000 Tripod.com, check out our site.

02:38:39.000 It's based on critical thinking and positive psychology, so that people can become empowered through clear thinking, and then deal with the depression that comes as being an activist.

02:38:47.000 And also, I want to mention pro se legal, because I'm actually having a jury trial in the federal court against the city of Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, Back in the 1990s,

02:39:15.000 under Clinton, wasn't there some military guys, some top military men that defected to France, and a couple of mothers that were killed over Montana or something?

02:39:25.000 Well, your phone's really bad, sir, but you're talking about...

02:39:28.000 Can you hear me now?

02:39:29.000 Yes, I can.

02:39:31.000 Alright, back in the 1990s, did you ever hear about some, uh, top military guys that defected to France?

02:39:37.000 And some others that were assassinated in some plane crash over the, uh, north and northern states?

02:39:44.000 No, I remember them blowing up Treasury Secretary Ron Brown's plane, and then the head coroner in the Army said that he'd been shot in the head and others had been.

02:39:55.000 They clearly had some type of black ops on board the plane.

02:39:58.000 They shot everybody and then remote-controlled it into the side.

02:40:00.000 Yeah, second question.

02:40:13.000 What does God's kingdom mean to you?

02:40:20.000 Yeah. Well, I really don't know what you mean by that question, sir.

02:40:27.000 We're here talking about trying to stop what could potentially lead to a world war, a world depression, a police state here in the U.S. that's being geared up.

02:40:35.000 And, you know, I am a Christian, but I don't really get into all the thousands of different denominations and debates that go on.

02:40:43.000 I mean, what does God's kingdom mean to you?

02:40:46.000 Well, it's quite literal.

02:40:47.000 I think it's quite literal to me because, you know, I see these things as ongoing.

02:40:51.000 So long as the sovereignty is in human hands, I could see tyranny rising again and again, just like Bible prophecy talks about all these wild beasts rising again and again. 0.98

02:41:02.000 Well, listen, I agree with you, Al, but what I do hear every time we talk about serious issues is Christians calling and saying, you know, it's always going to be evil. 0.99

02:41:08.000 We're always going to have problems.

02:41:10.000 I see it all over our message boards at PrisonPlanet.com.

02:41:13.000 You know, it's the end of the world.

02:41:14.000 What are we going to do?

02:41:15.000 Evil always comes back.

02:41:16.000 Yeah, but good has always fought back against evil, and when good gives in to evil, when good men do nothing, is when we get nightmares.

02:41:23.000 And so, kind of the attitude of, well, evil always raises its head again.

02:41:27.000 Yeah, and we always got to chop it off again.

02:41:29.000 You know, we can't just pass the buck to God.

02:41:34.000 Ray McGovern, you want to speak to this basic psychology?

02:41:37.000 Well, I think you're right.

02:41:39.000 Evil succeeds when good people do nothing.

02:41:43.000 People need further proof of that.

02:41:45.000 Just look at Nazi Germany in the 30s, where people really couldn't find their voice, really couldn't oppose what was going on.

02:41:55.000 They thought as long as it was just the Jews, or just the Gypsies, or just the Polacks, or just the Catholics, or whatever, that they could hunker down and be safe. 0.98

02:42:05.000 That's a good example of how not to act.

02:42:09.000 If you profess to be a follower of Jesus of Nazareth, you have no other option than to oppose evil on the spot.

02:42:19.000 That was part of his message.

02:42:21.000 That's what we have to do.

02:42:22.000 Not only do good, but not avoid evil, as the atheists say, but oppose it on the spot.

02:42:31.000 Well, look at the prophets.

02:42:33.000 Most of them were killed for fighting evil.

02:42:35.000 They always put themselves between the iron fist of the state, corruption, tyranny, and the innocents, the widows. 0.73

02:42:41.000 It's better to tie a millstone around your neck and be cast in the deepest sea.

02:42:45.000 Yeah, hi, this is Claire.

02:43:00.000 Hi, Claire.

02:43:00.000 Hi. The main thing, it was weird because I took a day off work today, and I usually listen to rebroadcasts even though I wanted to call in in the past.

02:43:10.000 This happens to be probably one of the most interesting shows I've heard.

02:43:13.000 I was thinking of all these different questions, and then you mentioned Jay Rockefeller.

02:43:19.000 Okay, I'm from West Virginia.

02:43:22.000 I don't Well, he acts like he's against the war and torture and all this, then he signs on to it, right?

02:43:46.000 Yeah. He, as you probably know, is the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

02:43:52.000 And he recently, to his credit, came out with an exhaustive report saying that the President lies into war by distorting, by manufacturing so-called intelligence.

02:44:03.000 Now, that's to his credit.

02:44:04.000 The only problem is that before he left the stage that day, he said, oh, and by the way, impeachment is not realistic.

02:44:13.000 Well, now, why would a senator who has nothing to say about impeachment, why would he think it necessary to add that little footnote?

02:44:20.000 Well, because he knows that if impeachment goes forward, he will be implicated in these charges because he approved them.

02:44:27.000 How did he approve them?

02:44:28.000 because he was head of this committee.

02:44:30.000 He was fully briefed on the torture, on the avoiding of the laws having to do with illegal surveillance.

02:44:37.000 And so he's implicated chapter and verse.

02:44:41.000 They've got a term for it. 0.99

02:44:50.000 He's covering his butt now. 0.98

02:44:52.000 Well, yeah, that's a nice way to put it. 0.96

02:44:54.000 Claire, thank you for the call.

02:44:56.000 Last caller, Jim in New York.

02:44:57.000 Go ahead.

02:45:01.000 Yes, sir.

02:45:02.000 I think every time I've ever got on.

02:45:05.000 Listen, I just want to say that no matter what they do, they can't not make me a good man.

02:45:11.000 I'm going to be a good man until the end.

02:45:13.000 You're a good man.

02:45:15.000 Good men will stand up.

02:45:18.000 We're fighting a tyranny, you know that.

02:45:20.000 And I believe right now we're in what I would term as a soft police state.

02:45:25.000 Anyhow, soft martial law with checkpoints everywhere.

02:45:28.000 Swat teams going into people's homes, taking guns.

02:45:31.000 And it's getting hotter.

02:45:36.000 Well, good people are standing together.

02:45:38.000 Good people are going to take care of this.

02:45:40.000 This isn't going to end badly.

02:45:41.000 It's going to be bloody.

02:45:42.000 But, listen, there are things that everybody can do.

02:45:47.000 Be responsible for yourself.

02:45:48.000 I know that I'm responsible for myself.

02:45:52.000 I'm a good man, and I tell everybody around me.

02:45:54.000 I have a 9-11, was an inside job.

02:45:57.000 Sorry, not my job.

02:46:02.000 Well, that's it.

02:46:03.000 They can't get us all.

02:46:05.000 In closing, I've got to let Ray go in a minute.

02:46:07.000 Go ahead.

02:46:07.000 I just wanted to plug my website.

02:46:10.000 My friends have a website, deprogram.wordpress.com.

02:46:14.000 It is full of other liberty.

02:46:17.000 All we talk about is liberty.

02:46:18.000 Good. That's what it's going to take at Citizen Media.

02:46:23.000 I've got to let you go because I told Ray he'd be gone by now.

02:46:26.000 Well, I want to thank you for hosting me here.

02:46:38.000 I think the callers indicate that they're thinking rightly about all this.

02:46:44.000 And I think Jim is quite right, you know.

02:46:46.000 There are enough of us, even though we seem to be in the minority.

02:46:51.000 It was Cesar Chavez that used to always say, Well, look, it doesn't take everyone.

02:46:58.000 There are already enough of us.

02:47:00.000 All we have to do is stop talking.

02:47:02.000 All we have to do is start putting our bodies into it.

02:47:05.000 Take action.

02:47:06.000 And that's what I'd suggest that all of your listeners do.

02:47:09.000 Think about ways that you can form small groups.

02:47:11.000 I'm thinking five, six people.

02:47:13.000 Figure it out.

02:47:14.000 And do what you can do in your own little environment to advance the cause of truth and justice.

02:47:21.000 Well, that's it.

02:47:22.000 Many hands make light work.

02:47:23.000 And folks, it doesn't mean your little five, six, ten man team, woman team is going to save the world.

02:47:28.000 But all of us together, exposing, educating, standing up for liberty, starting media websites, access TV shows, calling into talk shows, local newsletters, all of it together, knowing you're bringing them down, we'll bring them down.

02:47:42.000 It's that simple.

02:47:43.000 They wouldn't be trying to intimidate people.

02:47:45.000 Yeah, but we weren't having an effect.

02:47:47.000 Support alternative media.

02:47:49.000 Understand that InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and InformationClearingHouse.info, we're all being hacked and attacked and shut down and filtered and, you know, understand that we're on the tip of the spear.

02:48:00.000 We need your support.

02:48:01.000 Ray McGovern, thank you so much for spending so much time with us.

02:48:04.000 I think this has been an amazing interview and we are very thankful for your time.

02:48:08.000 You're most welcome, Alex.

02:48:09.000 Take care.

02:48:10.000 All right, folks, there goes Ray McGovern.

02:48:14.000 For those that missed the first hour of the show, it was amazing, too, when I went over the intimidation, the threats that we go through, that others go through, just how real this is.

02:48:24.000 When you have guys in high and tight haircuts, in plain clothes, block your car in a parking lot, you get out and you say, what's going on?

02:48:32.000 And they say, Mr. Jones, you better keep your mouth shut or bad things are going to happen to you.

02:48:36.000 You know, that was a big wake-up call for me, I guess, eight, nine years ago?

02:48:41.000 Longer? When things like that happen or when you get death threats or when things like that, you know real ones happen when you're being followed by By special ops wearing clown mask and that happened much people saw it.

02:48:53.000 We tried to get video of it I believe we got some video we have to enhance it because they were driving by, you know in Virginia I mean the government wearing clown mask.

02:49:02.000 I mean it's getting bad folks The government is illegitimate.

02:49:05.000 It's criminal And they're engaged in all forms of crime.

02:49:09.000 It's not enough for the government to ship in the heroin and cocaine.

02:49:11.000 It's not enough for them to launder money and push Prozac and Ritalin on kids. 0.55

02:49:14.000 It's not enough for CPS to be kidnapping all these children.

02:49:17.000 It's not enough!

02:49:18.000 Not enough to be, you know, using the dollar globally to buy up real assets for the elite and then handing us the bill.

02:49:24.000 It's not enough for them.

02:49:25.000 They're not going to stop until we stop them.

02:49:28.000 It's just going to get worse and worse.

02:49:29.000 It's like a cancer.

02:49:30.000 The country has cancer. 0.87

02:49:32.000 The world has cancer.

02:49:34.000 And we gotta cut it out somehow.

02:49:37.000 Alright, I got a bunch of other news, more of your phone calls.

02:49:39.000 Then we got Jimmy Justice coming on, another example of what you can do.

02:49:43.000 Just amazing stuff, straight ahead with that.

02:49:47.000 You know, it's a good feeling, though, to be committed.

02:49:51.000 I mean, I'm not even afraid of these people.

02:49:52.000 I'm afraid I'm not gonna do the best job I can with the time I have on this planet.

02:49:56.000 I'm afraid of that.

02:49:57.000 But I'm not afraid of them killing me or setting me up or anything.

02:50:00.000 I am committed.

02:50:01.000 I know why my cause is right, and that's the end of it.

02:50:04.000 May I have everybody's attention, please?

02:50:07.000 I've come with a message of information.

02:50:09.000 9-11 was an inside job.

02:50:12.000 Do you like being a puppet, sir?

02:50:13.000 Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?

02:50:15.000 How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?

02:50:18.000 Was it engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR?

02:50:23.000 The day that we stop asking questions is the day Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.

02:50:37.000 An inside job?

02:50:39.000 How dare you?

02:50:42.000 If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.

02:50:47.000 All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.

02:50:50.000 And if the government has not told the truth in five years, we will be here on the 10th anniversary of 9- Truth Rising.

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02:52:04.000 Alabama state code makes it illegal to drive barefoot.

02:52:07.000 In Downey, California, it's illegal to wash your car in the street.

02:52:11.000 In Minnesota, you can be fined for displaying that your vehicle is for sale.

02:52:15.000 These laws are obviously not made to protect us, but instead to help states profit.

02:52:20.000 The use of red light cameras is another great example.

02:52:23.000 They intrude on your privacy, are unconstitutional, and cost you valuable time and money.

02:52:28.000 SprayYourPlate.com is a spray-on photo blocker that protects against red light cameras, toll cameras, I think so.

02:52:56.000 or go to sprayyourplate.com.

02:52:59.000 That's sprayyourplate.com.

02:53:01.000 Don't give your money to the state.

02:53:02.000 Spray your plate.

02:53:32.000 There's a warning sign on the road.

02:53:36.000 There's a lot of people saying we'd be better off.

02:53:40.000 And don't feel like we're going to be better.

02:53:41.000 Whoever thought we'd get to this point with secret police running around threatening women, intimidating them, threatening their children, goons all over the place, TV ads, PR, billboards worshiping the police state, government telling you how much it loves you, private corporations buying up everything.

02:54:02.000 I know there's a lot of good people in government who don't want to be part of this.

02:54:04.000 And a lot of it isn't even your fault. 1.00

02:54:06.000 It's the degenerate, lazy, stupid population on average. 1.00

02:54:10.000 But that's not all of us. 1.00

02:54:16.000 Jimmy Justice is coming up, and I want to play some clips of him and tell you a little bit about him.

02:54:21.000 Before we do that, before I cover Jimmy Justice, I've made 19 films.

02:54:27.000 The newest is Truth Rising, and this film needs to be seen.

02:54:30.000 I mean, five minutes of the two-hour film, five minutes of it, is New York police saying that video cameras are guns, and that backpacks are bombs, and saying, we know you're not terrorists, but we're gonna put you in prison for it.

02:54:46.000 I mean, they're so corrupt now, they try to frame you on videotape, knowing they're being videotaped.

02:54:51.000 I mean, it's one thing to be criminals, but it's another thing to just think that criminality is so good, and is so honorable, that you just do it out in the open.

02:55:01.000 I mean, Willie Nelson, Jesse Ventura, Martin Sheen, Michael Moore, Amy Goodman, George Carlin.

02:55:13.000 You know, those are some of the quote good guys interviewed in this film about 9-11 making an inside job.

02:55:18.000 And then Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, John McCain being confronted repeatedly, John Edwards, Mitt Romney.

02:55:28.000 I mean, they're all in this film.

02:55:30.000 Number one, it's an entertaining film.

02:55:32.000 It's perfect to wake people up.

02:55:34.000 The fact of who the 9-11 Truth Movement is, how they're trying to demonize us, how they're trying to set us up.

02:55:38.000 I get arrested in it.

02:55:40.000 You know, high-quality up-close footage of what happened in New York.

02:55:43.000 Geraldo flipping us off.

02:55:44.000 I mean, it's just a crazy film.

02:55:46.000 And it gets into the bombs in the buildings and the key evidence of controlled demolition.

02:55:50.000 But that's about 20% of it.

02:55:51.000 About 20% is the first responders and the deadly dust, the cover up there.

02:55:56.000 The rest is the 9-11 Truth Movement and who we are.

02:55:58.000 It's just such an incredible film.

02:56:00.000 I'm so proud of Truth Rising.

02:56:02.000 I know a lot of you probably saw it on PrisonPlanet.tv, but this is an important film.

02:56:06.000 Get it on DVD at InfoWars.com today, or if you don't have a PrisonPlanet.tv membership, we're about to go live in the next hour with a live feed in here, the video cam, the document cam, then that's uploaded and posted each day if you don't want to watch it streaming live.

02:56:21.000 Thousands of interviews we've done, hundreds of TV reports I've done, all my films are super high quality, in-game, in-game 1.5, an extra hour-long film just For PrisonPlanet.tv members, an addendum to in-game.

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Alex Jones Show - August 07, 2008

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