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00:00:52.000 Going back to Webster Tarbley, when we come back in the next segment, we will take your calls to the Balance of the Hour.

00:00:59.000 Webster, finishing up with what you expect to see in this election.

00:01:03.000 I know you think that the greater of two evils is Barack Obama.

00:01:06.000 I myself see it as a huge distraction, but I understand you're saying his star appeal, and I agree, will bring people into the fold to support the corporate fascism and give them the grassroots cover they need.

00:01:18.000 So I agree with you he's the most dangerous candidate.

00:01:21.000 I just psychologically have divorced myself so much from the two parties, and fully understanding they're puppets that I can't even really see Obama, I guess as many other people see him.

00:01:32.000 But in closing, in the three and a half minutes we have left in this opening segment, other key points you'd like to make?

00:01:38.000 Well, I would say first of all, if you get Obama with the Democratic Congress, you will have the full fury of the fascist corporate state, in terms of that economic austerity,

00:01:49.000 Killer austerity, genocidal austerity that I talked about, under green, polar bear, snail daughter auspices, third world solidarity, and possibly even this other question of reparations to that ethnic group, which would also be a very explosive recipe. 0.95

00:02:08.000 If you get McCain, I would say you get a tired old lame duck, who is going to be a lame duck from the first moment he gets there. 0.86

00:02:16.000 He'll be quacking in his In his inaugural address. 0.93

00:02:20.000 And he will be faced by a very hostile Democratic Congress, giving us gridlock.

00:02:24.000 This is the best outcome we could get under that scenario, would be the gridlock.

00:02:29.000 So, in this sense, McCain is actually a lesser evil than Obama.

00:02:33.000 The Democrats try to scare you with McCain. 0.88

00:02:36.000 They tell you that he's going to put in these fascist judges.

00:02:38.000 Well, the Democrats can filibuster those judges if they want to. 1.00

00:02:42.000 So don't try to scare us with that.

00:02:43.000 With Mrs. Clinton, I think you get a much more open-ended This is somebody who responds to public opinion through triangulation, but she does respond, and her history during the primaries has been to move more and more towards New Deal positions, at least verbally, and that's what we've got to work with at this point.

00:03:04.000 And this would also allow a solution that would not be McCain and not be Obama.

00:03:10.000 The merit of Mrs. Clinton is that she's not McCain and she's not Obama, and I think there is going to be a movement to try to Get her nominated and perhaps even to change the outcome of the convention.

00:03:22.000 But I think the principle idea is you've got to build a movement.

00:03:27.000 The way you build a movement is figure out what the financiers want most and oppose them.

00:03:34.000 I would not say that the state is always the enemy.

00:03:36.000 My analysis of history is different.

00:03:38.000 I would say financier oligarchs, feudal aristocrats in the more distant past, financiers, finance oligarchs, bankers,

00:03:48.000 are the enemy and if you look at the origin of the modern state under somebody like John Gagliazzo Visconti in Milan in the fourteen early about fourteen hundred uh... if you look at it louis the eleventh of france in the fourteen seventies fourteen eighties and henry the seventh of england the earl of richmond the guy who got rid of richard the third what you see there is an alliance of the king that is the state with the bourgeoisie the cities And the peasantry against what?

00:04:16.000 Against feudal oligarchs who are already transforming themselves.

00:04:21.000 Into banking oligarchs and financiers.

00:04:23.000 Well, Webster, my point is that big states are the most abusive throughout history.

00:04:28.000 It breeds corruption. 0.98

00:04:29.000 The corrupt come in to suck out of it. 0.92

00:04:32.000 And then look at what the oligarchs always want. 0.98

00:04:35.000 They always want a big state as their tool to control populations, destroy middle classes, wage war on the bourgeoisie using the commie terms.

00:04:44.000 We'll be right back with Webster Tarpley and your phone calls, right here on the one, the only, Genesis Communications Radio Network.

00:04:51.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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00:05:05.000 And then look at what the oligarchs always want. 0.98

00:05:07.000 They always want a big state as their tool to control populations, destroy middle classes, wage war on the bourgeoisie using the commie terms.

00:05:16.000 We'll be right back with Webster Tarpley and your phone calls right here on the one, the only Genesis Communications Radio Network.

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00:08:09.000 Okay, we've got Webster Tarpley with us for the rest of the hour.

00:08:20.000 An in-depth interview today with him on the economy, the election. - I mean.

00:08:26.000 Almost happened in Russia in future actions.

00:08:33.000 Before we go any further, Webster, is there anything else you want to add concerning the geopolitical climate we're in right now before we go to calls?

00:08:43.000 Certainly.

00:08:44.000 I think right now you've got to also look at the situation in Europe because one of Brzezinski's main goals, of course, is to play Europe against Russia, too.

00:08:52.000 Normally, Europe would gravitate towards Russia right now because of the oil The natural gas, the epicenter of the current world economic breakdown crisis, the Bush economic depression, is of course London and New York.

00:09:05.000 They've been hit hardest, and other people have been hit hard because they've gotten into bed with London and New York.

00:09:12.000 There's a whole school of opinion in France, Germany, Italy, on the continent that it's time now to orient towards the Russians, East-West trade, oil for technology, mutually beneficial economic development.

00:09:24.000 So Brzezinski's got to destroy that.

00:09:26.000 And what he wants to use is that cordon sanitaire, or that unsanitary cordon of Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, and Ukraine to begin cutting off the natural gas.

00:09:39.000 The Russians, of course, are going around that by building a pipeline down the middle of the Baltic so that they can deliver guaranteed energy without the Ukrainians and the Poles skimming or cutting it off or provoking or the rest of this stuff. 0.79

00:09:52.000 Remember, we have to thank, ironically enough, in this terrible situation, we have to thank Sarkozy, of all people, and Merkel for blocking the attempt by Brzezinski to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO as members, or at least get that going, at the last NATO meeting back in April.

00:10:12.000 Remember, Obama wants Georgia in NATO, the Washington Post want them in there.

00:10:17.000 We've got to say no, no NATO membership for this bandit. 0.88

00:10:21.000 Thug, kleptocrat regime. 0.97

00:10:24.000 The other thing is, the Italian position right now, the Italian government is Berlusconi.

00:10:30.000 This just shows you what kind of a situation we're in.

00:10:34.000 Berlusconi, of course, is this dirty character that everybody knows, but he's also a friend of the Russians, and the Italians have gone very, very far in this East-West trade, oil for technology kind of stuff, and they've got a history of building You know, huge automobile plants, right? 0.76

00:10:52.000 The Togliatti Fiat plant that built all those Ladas that are still running. 0.99

00:10:57.000 The Italians are saying, the Foreign Minister Frattini is saying, we cannot transform the European Union into an anti-Russian bloc.

00:11:06.000 So Georgia, get lost, stay out there.

00:11:09.000 I've also been in touch with my friend Giulietto Chiesa, a member of the European Parliament in Brussels.

00:11:14.000 You remember, he's the one who did the Zero documentary.

00:11:20.000 I was in Milan last November.

00:11:22.000 We had, oh, 500 people in an auditorium with Dario Fo, Nobel Prize for Literature and probably the most read playwright in the world today.

00:11:31.000 There's an anthology also called Zero with essays by all sorts of people, among them yours truly.

00:11:39.000 So Giulietto Chiesa is leading a publicity effort in Europe to try to show people that Georgia is this a bunch of pawns of Brzezinski.

00:11:50.000 So there's also a lot of work to be done vis--vis the Europeans, trying to get them to break away. 1.00

00:11:57.000 In other words, don't become a lemming for Obama like those poor Germans at the victory column near the Ziegelssohler in the middle of Berlin. 0.70

00:12:07.000 Don't go with that, but rather dump Obama.

00:12:10.000 I'm very glad to say my book, Obama the Postmodern Coup, is coming out in a German edition in the KOPP, which will be hitting the newsstands fairly soon, in time for the Frankfurt Book Fair, among other things.

00:12:28.000 I'm also coming out in Japan, because there's another place.

00:12:31.000 The Japanese ...have said very clearly, it was a successful summit of Prime Minister Fukuda with President Hu of China.

00:12:38.000 The Japanese Defense Minister said, the biggest threat to us is chaos in China.

00:12:43.000 This is a way of saying, dear Big New, we will not be a staging area for your attacks on China.

00:12:49.000 In Taiwan, the KMT, the Kuomintang Party, has made a comeback, kicking out the US puppets, the DPP, Green Party, or Democratic Progressive Party.

00:12:59.000 Get rid of them, put in people who are reasonable, who realize that their future is a rapprochement with China and mutually beneficial trade.

00:13:08.000 Okay, well I'm sure I've got to stop you there because I want to give some time to callers.

00:13:12.000 I have to say, everything you're saying is accurate about what's happening in the world.

00:13:15.000 I don't disagree with about 95% of what you're saying.

00:13:18.000 The problem is, there's more to all of this.

00:13:23.000 It is a fact that the CIA Back the Communists against the Japanese in China.

00:13:30.000 It is a fact now declassified that the CIA, and David Rockefeller's written editorials in the New York Times saying this, wanted the Communist Chinese to come to power so that they could use them in China.

00:13:43.000 It is a fact that Armand Hammer and the Rockefellers and the big foundation monies pumped billions into Russia from its founding, overthrowing the czars, for British intelligence in 1917 right through into the 80s.

00:14:00.000 And you're right, they attack with both sides, and they're always trying to gobble up republics.

00:14:04.000 I mean, you know, they basically attack from all angles, from within, from without, always creating a neo-mercantile system which leaves all nation states weak and vulnerable and basically starving and infighting with regional and religious conflicts.

00:14:19.000 I just want to point out that we're not saying China's good or Russia's good or anybody's good here.

00:14:25.000 You can disagree if you want.

00:14:26.000 It's that you have this evil global corporate management system that was developed out of London, the city of London.

00:14:37.000 I just don't want to oversimplify this where America and England and Israel are the bad guys and everybody else are the good guys.

00:14:44.000 All these countries are engaging in oppression and corruption.

00:14:48.000 That's the nature of society and I'm just trying to get people to see the bigger picture of how these big tectonic forces are colliding into each other.

00:14:57.000 Well, let's look at the heart of the world problem right now is this mass of derivatives, this cancerous mass of kited derivatives.

00:15:05.000 And that was a financial weapons system by the central banks while the dollar was still the world reserve currency.

00:15:10.000 They made a mad dash to buy up all the real infrastructure of the world, buy up the defense contractors, media of the world, to set up their global corporate empire off of the yoke You know, like an egg off of the sustenance that was the United States.

00:15:25.000 Now they want to leave us holding the financial bag for that collapse while they've moved into safe havens, then bring in a third world police state here and use the United States as a military enclave to produce modern Hessian soldiers for the new global corporate state that has shucked any connection to any original nation state.

00:15:47.000 But remember now, if we use my estimate of 1 quadrillion, it's probably 1.5 quadrillion, or maybe a lot more.

00:15:55.000 Well, it's 6,000 trillion that we know of.

00:15:58.000 Well, yes, but I'm saying 1... Well, you want to say 2 quadrillion.

00:16:03.000 Fine, 2 quadrillion is ballpark, perfectly good.

00:16:06.000 Where is that centered?

00:16:07.000 Well, about a quarter of that is just JPMorgan Chase.

00:16:11.000 And when you add up the rest of the U.S., You'll get up to well over half.

00:16:16.000 You'll get up to probably two-thirds of the derivatives, and the rest are in London.

00:16:20.000 So there you see where the center of this cancer is.

00:16:24.000 To say that Russia is the same as this... No, no, no, no, no, no. 0.88

00:16:28.000 I'm saying they're just not as powerful.

00:16:30.000 Absolutely.

00:16:31.000 The Anglo-American establishment flooded the world with this liquidity to get everybody in debt and get real assets.

00:16:36.000 Now they're going to leave us holding the bag.

00:16:38.000 So I don't, quote, see the U.S.

00:16:39.000 now becoming a sub-player in all this.

00:16:42.000 That was a foregone conclusion.

00:16:44.000 I'm saying now the New World Order, the Anglo-American Empire, as you call it, is moving to that transcendent point where they sit above all the nation-states with their private intelligence networks in Russia, in China, in Israel, in the U.S., just playing us all off against each other. 0.56

00:17:01.000 I don't believe that they have total world control.

00:17:03.000 No, I don't.

00:17:04.000 I think that there are real conflicts in the world.

00:17:05.000 I don't think they have total world control.

00:17:07.000 I'm saying they are dominant.

00:17:10.000 Dominant up to a point, but fading fast.

00:17:13.000 And Obama is really a flight forward, a desperate bid to give this a facelift, to give it a new lease on life.

00:17:19.000 And if you block Obama, you're going to be dealing with a severely weakened imperialism.

00:17:23.000 under conditions of much greater difficulty in organizing mass extensors.

00:17:27.000 Okay, I'm going to skip this break for people behind the scenes watching on PrisonPlanet.tv and listening on the exclusive Infowars.com streams.

00:17:34.000 And then at 24 after, I promise, no more pontificating by myself or Webster.

00:17:38.000 It's all great info.

00:17:40.000 Steve, Rico, Elliot, Cliff, Jeff, and many others.

00:17:43.000 We're going to go right to you in about five minutes.

00:17:45.000 But, okay, how does it affect the American people?

00:17:48.000 Let's be centered on ourselves for a minute and take the local regional view for North America.

00:17:53.000 What is better for the American people?

00:17:56.000 For the empire to crumble and fall apart or for us to mindlessly support it?

00:17:59.000 Obviously, I believe mindlessly supporting it, they will only rape us that much more financially and physically, and so it is good to let this fall apart.

00:18:09.000 I would go with the populists, those prairie farmers back in 1890 meeting in Omaha, and they formulated the Populist Party program, which basically said, A mass movement needs to take over the government and turn it against Rockefeller, Morgan, and the Wall Street group, and I don't think that has changed.

00:18:27.000 That's what we should be doing.

00:18:28.000 So he's a Golden Cross speech?

00:18:32.000 Yes, although that's William Jennings Bryan.

00:18:35.000 He's not really an organic representative of this.

00:18:38.000 He is at least a politician who grew up in that milieu, and he's trying to fight Wall Street.

00:18:45.000 Again, maybe he's not a good example, but if you want to think, who's like us?

00:18:49.000 Who's isolated like we are, or relatively, with not that much money?

00:18:53.000 Take those populists of 1890, and I think their strategy is valid.

00:18:57.000 Now, you want to oppose the empire, you also want to construct An economic alternative to this, and for me this is clear.

00:19:04.000 The New Deal methods worked then, they will work now. 0.98

00:19:07.000 Oh yeah, it's turned us into a bunch of dependents, broken down the family.

00:19:11.000 The same foundations you talk about.

00:19:13.000 But this is not the New Deal.

00:19:15.000 The New Deal has been gone for 40 years.

00:19:17.000 Hey Webster, a hundred years ago the big foundations, as you know, wrote how they were going to get us addicted to government.

00:19:22.000 But see, you've got to...

00:19:24.000 Look, I tell you, the populace in Omaha said, the government is going to belong to us.

00:19:29.000 The goal is not get government out of your life.

00:19:31.000 The goal is you take over the government.

00:19:33.000 Now Milton Friedman, of course, from the Rockefeller Chicago School, says, government is always the problem.

00:19:39.000 I don't buy that.

00:19:40.000 Wall Street, finance oligarchs.

00:19:42.000 See, that's only one hand of the elite.

00:19:44.000 That's only one hand.

00:19:45.000 They claim they don't want government, but in truth they do want big government to suck off us with corporate welfare.

00:19:52.000 Again, I don't... I don't... Hold on, Webster. 1.00

00:19:55.000 We're going to behind the scenes.

00:19:56.000 I want to abbreviate this.

00:19:57.000 We'll be right back.

00:19:58.000 Go ahead now.

00:19:59.000 We've got four minutes.

00:20:01.000 I don't see that as the meaningful distinction.

00:20:04.000 In other words, right now, you've got the question of foreclosures.

00:20:09.000 If you leave this to the market, or if you leave it to the stuff we've got in place right now, we're going to have millions and millions of people thrown out of their homes, and we're going to have Millions and millions of domestic refugees and homeless.

00:20:22.000 How do you stop that?

00:20:23.000 You do it with a uniform federal law.

00:20:25.000 No foreclosures.

00:20:26.000 Foreclosures are over.

00:20:27.000 You foreclose, you go to Leavenworth.

00:20:29.000 On a home, on a farm, on a business, a taxi company, a trucking company.

00:20:33.000 Well then people just stop paying completely and then things really implode.

00:20:38.000 And then we owe interest on all that debt to the bankers.

00:20:41.000 But no, we're going to wipe them out.

00:20:42.000 In other words, what do you do with the quadrillion or two quadrillion of derivatives is you wipe them out.

00:20:46.000 You can do it two ways.

00:20:48.000 You can do it with a law that simply says derivatives are illegal because they are.

00:20:52.000 As they were up until the early 1990s, or my method, tax them out of existence.

00:20:58.000 Put a 1% Tobin tax or... And because they're blind shorting, naked shorting, and there's no real money behind it, they won't even belly up for a 1%?

00:21:11.000 Well yeah, we're paying, you know, I don't know what the sales tax in Texas is, it's 5% in Maryland, and you don't pay it on groceries.

00:21:18.000 In Virginia it's 5 to 7 and you pay it on groceries.

00:21:22.000 The groceries is a big part of it.

00:21:24.000 How come the Wall Street finance oligarchs can't pay their fair share? 0.98

00:21:27.000 How about that Tobin tax, that securities transfer tax?

00:21:31.000 If it's two quadrillion of derivatives, a one percent tax, and suppose two-thirds of that is in the U.S., you're up to about 1.2 million.

00:21:40.000 Well, derivatives are predominantly global, and so the global government will have to implement that?

00:21:45.000 But no, wait!

00:21:46.000 There's no global government.

00:21:48.000 The United States government, using sovereign economic powers, can tax JPMorgan Chase and say, well, you have 500 million... Well, you said the Tobin tax, and that was introduced as a world tax.

00:22:00.000 I have a better way to do it, which is to not just to tax foreign exchange transactions, But to tax all financial turnover.

00:22:07.000 It would be a speculation tax.

00:22:09.000 Right now, 40% of the price of oil, or 50%, is pure speculation.

00:22:15.000 What are you going to do about that?

00:22:16.000 If you want the market, that speculation will get even worse.

00:22:19.000 Because even the regulatory regime we have, which is a joke, will be gone.

00:22:24.000 They'll be gouging you without surcease.

00:22:27.000 What you've got to do is to say, alright, you want to speculate, you're going to pay a 1% Well, you can also make it illegal to engage in all this leveraging where they don't even put money in.

00:22:39.000 Well, here's an example, Webster.

00:22:40.000 talking about government action dictated by the people against the financiers that's all it comes down to take over the government use it again example webster look at look at government education and what it's done before we didn't have government education of the smartest was a given Now I hear people in stores talking about Russians attacking Georgia in the U.S.

00:22:59.000 This is a political watershed that you've got to be aware of.

00:23:02.000 In 1968, the New Deal came to an end.

00:23:06.000 And this was by the folly of Johnson, by the Vietnam War, and all the rest.

00:23:11.000 What we've had for 40 years after that is the rule of the reactionary Republicans.

00:23:15.000 It's the social engineering is what we've had.

00:23:17.000 We've had the eugenicist Carrying this out while the bleeding-heart liberals run around saying, help the poor people. 1.00

00:23:23.000 This is all relevant, but the thing you've got to focus on is production.

00:23:28.000 I'm telling you this, any government system you come up with, no matter how well-meaning, will be hijacked by the oligarchs, and it always is.

00:23:34.000 Well then, it sounds like we live in a hopelessly fallen world.

00:23:37.000 No, if we remove a lot of the taxation mechanisms against us, I'm all for taxing them, but you notice we'll never get that, then... It has been done in the past, and the New Deal was essentially that, and it can be done again.

00:23:49.000 Okay, we're coming back to the main transmission right now.

00:23:52.000 I want to come in with intro music, folks.

00:23:54.000 I want to take phone calls.

00:23:55.000 We're talking to Webster Tarpley.

00:23:56.000 here we go I've never been with anything less than a dime, so fine.

00:24:15.000 I've been on fire with Sally Field, gone fast with a girl named Bo. 0.88

00:24:21.000 But somehow they just don't end up as mine.

00:24:26.000 It's a death-defying life I lead.

00:24:30.000 I take my chances.

00:24:32.000 I'd die for a living in the movies and TV.

00:24:37.000 But the hardest thing I ever do is watch my leading ladies kiss some other guy while I'm bandaging my knee.

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00:24:59.000 Steve in Chicago, you're on the air worldwide as we blast out on AM and FM dial across the country, global shortwave at WWCR, the internet at Infowars.com, and of course with now more than 60,000 people a day pulling our free podcast.

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00:25:23.000 Webster Tarpley continuing With your analysis, let's get the take of the callers.

00:25:29.000 Steve, in Chicago, you're on the air worldwide.

00:25:33.000 Well, first of all, I want to say I'm talking to two fine men.

00:25:37.000 Secondly, I think that you guys have been turned around backwards on this situation with Russia.

00:25:43.000 You didn't even report that last month, it was July 25th, that Putin had threatened the United States with stationing atomic bombers in Cuba.

00:25:54.000 Look, Putin has been warning the U.S.

00:25:57.000 loyally all through 2007 at that Munich Werkunde meeting in the springtime.

00:26:04.000 He talked about this neocon striving for U.S. 0.85

00:26:07.000 Stop, stop, Tarbly. 0.99

00:26:07.000 I'm going to let you get to it in a minute. 0.99

00:26:09.000 Because this is, Steve, you can't listen to four hours every day.

00:26:12.000 I don't believe it.

00:26:13.000 I have been saying for the last However many months since this was said, I talk about that every week.

00:26:19.000 I talk about their foreign minister saying, if you keep moving weapon systems and troops and training and destabilizing in Poland and in Czech Republic and in Georgia and in Ukraine and in all these areas and in the stands and moving your military in, we're going to start moving nukes near you.

00:26:38.000 And I have said that on record.

00:26:40.000 So go ahead.

00:26:42.000 Okay, so you're reporting your point of view.

00:26:45.000 You don't ever mention the people in Eastern and Central Europe talking about a domino theory where the situation is dialectic.

00:26:53.000 In other words, Russia... Sir, Russia, hold on a minute, hold on a minute. 0.65

00:26:56.000 Russia is shrinking, not getting bigger.

00:26:59.000 It wasn't Russia that snuck attacked a U.S.

00:27:02.000 military base last Thursday night.

00:27:03.000 It was the United States, which isn't our government anymore.

00:27:06.000 I'm just stating facts.

00:27:08.000 I can't stand communists or leftism or any of this stuff.

00:27:12.000 I'm here trying to give you a real geopolitical view into this.

00:27:15.000 Did Georgia not blow the hell out of an entire city and massacre a bunch of Russian troops and peacekeepers out of a clear blue sky where they've been since 1991 in a ceasefire in two areas that have always been part of Russia?

00:27:28.000 Ossetia?

00:27:30.000 Go ahead.

00:27:32.000 Wait a minute.

00:27:33.000 If what you say were true, The first thing they would have done was blow that tunnel between Ossetia and North Ossetia. 0.94

00:27:41.000 The Rokhi Tunnel.

00:27:42.000 You can only get tanks or trucks in there.

00:27:44.000 Hold on, what are you saying I'm lying about?

00:27:47.000 Well, what I'm saying is... I mean, Georgia admits they snuck attack Russia.

00:27:51.000 I doubt that.

00:27:52.000 There were... Hold on a minute, I'm going to put you on hold.

00:27:55.000 This is too insane.

00:27:58.000 Okay, I mean, Georgia, Tarbley, what do you say to something like this?

00:28:02.000 Well, this is the U.S.

00:28:03.000 media line, this is CNN, this is what Bush says, this is what Zalmay Khalilzad says at the United Nations, what McCain says and what Obama says, and it's a big lie.

00:28:12.000 It's a Goebbels big lie.

00:28:14.000 The aggressor is Georgia. 0.92

00:28:16.000 You have whatever the status quo was.

00:28:18.000 The Russian peacekeepers were there under a signed agreement with the Georgian government from 15 years ago.

00:28:23.000 And let me add, the Georgians had already been taking pot shots at the Russian troops and citizens, beating people up, killing them in the outlying towns around Ossetia.

00:28:32.000 Ethnic cleansing, that's why the Russians had to come in in 1992-93. 1.00

00:28:34.000 And then let me expand, they shut the water off to Ossetia a month ago and already had them under siege.

00:28:43.000 And they basically had a campaign of bombings and assassinations building up to this.

00:28:47.000 So it's a cynical, orchestrated plan by Georgia. 0.82

00:28:50.000 Now, the Russians see it coming, and they say, fine, you want to attack? 0.91

00:28:53.000 We'll be ready for you.

00:28:55.000 And the minute they attack, they took the bridge and the tunnels.

00:28:57.000 But look, Steve, I don't think... I would also add, ultimately, beyond all the details, you want to have your children incinerated in a thermonuclear fireball for the sake of that bandit, that little Hitler, Saakashvili? 1.00

00:29:08.000 That's crazy. 0.99

00:29:09.000 Look, I'm going to come back to you, Steve.

00:29:10.000 We're going to skip this break, too, for InfoWars.com listeners.

00:29:13.000 Got to go to those streams, folks.

00:29:15.000 But, I mean, this is completely... Steve, I'm blown away here.

00:29:18.000 You think I'd go on air and lie to you about Georgia attacking Russia?

00:29:24.000 I mean, what are you talking about?

00:29:26.000 I mean, are you serious, Steve?

00:29:29.000 Bring Steve back up.

00:29:31.000 He's there.

00:29:32.000 Steve, are you there?

00:29:35.000 All right, we're going to take a break and see if we can get Steve Ray's back up on the phone.

00:29:38.000 Steve, it's just incredible.

00:29:39.000 I mean, all I do is report the facts here, and I'm living in la-la land.

00:29:45.000 More of your calls right now.

00:29:46.000 Stay with us.

00:29:48.000 Webster, this is just getting too crazy when people are in total denial.

00:29:52.000 Are you still there, Steve, or did you hang up?

00:29:56.000 I guess Steve finally dropped off.

00:29:58.000 Steve, you can call back at 1-800-259-9231 if you can get back in.

00:30:03.000 Webster, that is just flabbergasting.

00:30:06.000 All the media at the footnotes, if you'll just read the bottom of the articles, admit Georgia ran a sneak attack, and he's saying we're making stuff up?

00:30:14.000 Robert Kagan, the neocon Robert Kagan in the Washington Post yesterday says, We're not interested in the details of how this started.

00:30:21.000 In other words, the massacre of 2,000 people in the middle of the night.

00:30:24.000 Forget those details.

00:30:26.000 Let's look at the big picture.

00:30:28.000 Well, the Russians had to move in there, or it would have set a precedent for them to start leveraging into Russia proper. 0.69

00:30:34.000 Imagine, this is direct killing of Russian soldiers.

00:30:38.000 Attacking police bases, military bases, blowing the daylights out of them, midnight sneak attack, admitted, then CNN shows the Georgian missile launchers firing and says they're Russian, that's now come out. 1.00

00:30:50.000 I mean, they treat the public like they're complete idiots, and I guess some of them really want to be lied to. 0.98

00:30:56.000 This is the same media that brought you 9-11, and the Iraq War, and Obama, and now they're trying to bring you this. 0.99

00:31:02.000 And also the ones two years ago when the Israelis invaded Lebanon.

00:31:06.000 We were supposed to sympathize with the Israelis.

00:31:08.000 Yeah, they called that a Lebanese attack.

00:31:11.000 Right.

00:31:12.000 Same thing.

00:31:12.000 Hezbollah is really bad, yeah.

00:31:14.000 Alright, so this is, it's just a fraud, and the first Gulf War, and now the second Gulf War.

00:31:20.000 Oh listen, listen, I had a news guy at the local radio station do a show at Syndicated on Sundays, kind of argue with me, and he was going, you're saying Georgia attacked?

00:31:29.000 And I'm just going, you know what, I can't deal with this anymore.

00:31:31.000 I mean, I just...

00:31:34.000 It is also the question of the bombing of Kosovo and Serbia.

00:31:38.000 I know the media said the Serbs attacked, when for years we had this Al-Qaeda being funded attacking.

00:31:46.000 Yeah, you have the KLA or UCK, which is this terrorist, gun-running, drug-running, slave-running organization.

00:31:53.000 You're supposed to sympathize with them.

00:31:55.000 Anyway... Let's take another call.

00:31:57.000 Rico in Toronto.

00:31:59.000 You're on the air.

00:32:02.000 Come on ahead, Rico.

00:32:03.000 Okay, yeah, thanks.

00:32:05.000 I was going to say, it seems the more things change, the more they stay the same.

00:32:10.000 Like, take for example the illegal alien situation.

00:32:15.000 In the late 60s, early 70s, all these radical groups were always funded and controlled by big foundations, big money.

00:32:30.000 And they were actually encouraged to have problems, to create problems, should I say, so that basically the police would come, the state would come.

00:32:41.000 Yeah, so they can balkanize.

00:32:42.000 Same thing with the Black Panthers. 0.83

00:32:44.000 They go in and radicalize.

00:32:45.000 Stay there, Rico. 0.92

00:32:45.000 We're coming back on the main broadcast. 0.92

00:32:47.000 I want to get Webster's tarp.

00:32:48.000 We take on that, and I'll give you a counterpoint or another statement or question after that with Rico in Toronto, then Elliot, Jeff, Cliff, and others.

00:32:54.000 We've got to move quick with calls, though, because I want to get a lot of your questions in.

00:32:57.000 in.

00:32:57.000 Here we go.

00:32:57.000 Okay.

00:33:03.000 We were just talking to Rico on the Infowars.com behind the scenes You go to Infowars.com, those specific exclusive streams of the behind-the-scenes.

00:33:14.000 We are talking to Rico in Toronto.

00:33:16.000 He brought up how the big foundations fund La Raza, Mecha, the radical black separatist groups, all of this to get us all fighting with each other and so then they can radicalize peaceful groups So those groups never get true equality or freedom or economic mobility.

00:33:31.000 They get neutralized, bitter, and filled with hate.

00:33:35.000 More balkanization.

00:33:36.000 Webster Tarpley.

00:33:37.000 This is an absolutely critical theme, and you're absolutely right.

00:33:40.000 If you look, first of all, at Obama, he is more than anything else a product of the foundations.

00:33:45.000 His mother was an operative for the Ford Foundation.

00:33:48.000 Obama has worked for the Gamaliel Foundation, the Joyce Foundation, Gun Control, the Woods Fund, the Annenberg Foundation, playing black parents against the black teachers' union.

00:34:01.000 His friend Bernardine Dorn gets huge money from the MacArthur Foundation.

00:34:05.000 My research for my next book, which is Barack H. Obama, the Unauthorized Biography, reveals that the Weathermen were actually founded with a Ford Foundation grant.

00:34:16.000 Certainly, Floyd McKissick Stokely Carmichael, the worst firebrands, Rap Brown, these characters, the people who opposed Martin Luther King with their incendiary rhetoric, all foundation-funded.

00:34:29.000 And as you correctly point out, the worst provocateurs of the Hispanic community, the people who talk this insanity about carving up the United States, they're also foundation-funded. 1.00

00:34:39.000 Obama has friends like Khalidi and a bunch of others.

00:34:44.000 This is a foundation-funded, pro-US wing, of the PLO, among the Native Americans.

00:34:50.000 You got a guy like Ward Churchill, who is essentially in the same corner.

00:34:55.000 The pervasive activity of these foundations is one of the things that's destroying American society.

00:35:02.000 Obama is somebody who says he was a community organizer for the Gamaliel Foundation.

00:35:07.000 What he's really saying is, I was a poverty pimp for the foundation world, where the Ford Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation dominate.

00:35:15.000 This is One of the principal things about Obama, this is what he comes from.

00:35:20.000 His world, that stuff about the bitter clingers, the people who cling to religion and guns, and anti-trade, that is the foundation, trilateral point of view.

00:35:30.000 You cannot have a president who hates the American people.

00:35:33.000 In the case of Obama, he does hate the American people, and therefore he's going to attack This austerity program, with great gusto.

00:35:41.000 Unlike Carter, who probably had some Christian scruples about it, Obama will have nothing of the sort, because he's been worshipping in a Ford Foundation church, that Reverend Jeremiah Wright, with Dwight Hopkins as an operative of the Ford Foundation, Reverend Otis Moss got through college with the Ford Foundation, this whole James Cone, black liberation theology, is again, the Ford Foundation Union Theological Seminary School of this stuff. 0.57

00:36:06.000 And it is designed to perpetuate racial conflict.

00:36:11.000 Absolutely, and they fund all these groups, they do it to get everybody at each other's throats, and then the racial tension becomes real, and then it's a dynamo which just builds up force and strength.

00:36:25.000 Anything else, Rico?

00:36:27.000 My second point, something you had brought up a couple weeks ago when you were talking about the anthrax letter that the Bush enemy received.

00:36:36.000 Yes.

00:36:37.000 I remember reading quickly, the Roman Empire, and it was the same thing.

00:36:45.000 It was the same thing.

00:36:46.000 Cicero, a little bit before Caesar came into power, Cicero was saying how the enemies of Rome need to be dealt with.

00:36:54.000 I've received letters.

00:36:55.000 I have letters that say that a couple senators are going to be mass assassinated, so we need to clamp down.

00:37:01.000 This worked a thousand years ago.

00:37:04.000 It works again.

00:37:05.000 It's the same thing.

00:37:06.000 Nothing's changed.

00:37:07.000 Well, that's what's incredible.

00:37:08.000 I appreciate your call.

00:37:09.000 Yeah, I bought a high school textbook.

00:37:13.000 It was at Barnes & Noble.

00:37:14.000 It's like, I think it's 3,000 years of revolution.

00:37:17.000 And it's pretty accurate, actually.

00:37:20.000 But you just look at every country and just the thousands of revolutions and all the subterfuge and backstabbing and Machiavellian activity and elites and cloak and dagger.

00:37:29.000 And then somehow they taught the American people the last hundred years that none of that exists, everything's fine, go back to sleep, and if we say anything on this show, It's just start looking around you and realizing that when these elites get out of control and these warlords and these banker warlords start fighting with each other, the oligarchy as Webster calls them, when these moneyed noble interests start battling with each other, we don't matter in the equation.

00:37:55.000 We get hurt real bad.

00:37:57.000 And, uh, this is just a game of chess for them.

00:37:59.000 I mean, people say, well, why do they want more power?

00:38:01.000 They're already so rich.

00:38:02.000 Only body who knows rich people knows they want even more. 0.94

00:38:05.000 They want power, they want control, and to deny that there are people that want power and control is to deny history. 0.73

00:38:10.000 Webster, I want to go to calls quickly, but how did we get to the point, do you think, of the average person, they're now coming out of this delusion and this mesmerized smokescreen, but people to say, oh there's no subterfuge, there's no corruption, there's no influence, there's no behind the scenes, you're a crazy dangerous conspiracy theorist.

00:38:28.000 How were they able to inculcate that in people's minds?

00:38:32.000 Well, it's a long process of degradation.

00:38:34.000 I think that the central question is probably the deindustrialization of the United States initiated by Volcker, under trilateral Carter and Brzezinski auspices, and then continued with the union busting of the Reagan years, the systematic decline in the standard of living.

00:38:51.000 So it's about minus two-thirds of what it had been Uh, around 1966.

00:38:56.000 And so people are having to work twice as hard just to keep the illusion going, and so they physically are just disconnected, saying, I don't care.

00:39:05.000 There's also the, more recently, Obama could not have broken through if the Democratic Party had not been in chaos.

00:39:11.000 And part of that is Pelosi.

00:39:13.000 Pelosi came in with the mandate of stopping the Iraq War, and she brought the... And instead she's ruled with an iron fist, saying no. 1.00

00:39:20.000 And what we then had is, as soon as that was in power, then Al Gore comes out of the woodwork with his demagogic, fake, global warming campaign.

00:39:29.000 To break the momentum against Bush and against the Iraq War, and then by the end of that year you've got Obama deployed into a chaotic Democratic Party.

00:39:39.000 Let me stop you, because I want to go to Elliot, Jeff, Cliff, and others, and DJ, but before we do that, I wanted to last hour get into the eugenics angle, which you're a real expert on, Webster.

00:39:49.000 I mean, I know my stuff on this.

00:39:50.000 I've read over 20 books on the subject and studied it, and you know even more in some cases than I do.

00:39:55.000 In a nutshell, Why do they want to reduce our numbers?

00:39:59.000 Why do they want to enslave us?

00:40:00.000 Why do they want to bring feudalism back in?

00:40:03.000 Is this just the instincts of the Anglo-American feudal lords?

00:40:07.000 And, I mean, break that down, what the fake modern environmentalism is.

00:40:12.000 Well, one is the population side.

00:40:15.000 The oligarchy always argues that there are two main problems in the world.

00:40:19.000 One is overpopulation, the other is industrial pollution in some form.

00:40:24.000 To be an oligarch means that you've got to hate the majority of humanity by thinking that you're better off than they were.

00:40:30.000 You can go back to the works of Hesiod in ancient Greece, pretty much the beginning of the, you know, sort of archaic Greek literature.

00:40:38.000 Plato as well.

00:40:39.000 The reason for the Trojan War was that there were too many people. 0.97

00:40:43.000 Too many people were oppressing the breast of Mother Earth, and therefore we had to have the Trojan War to kill off a lot of them. 0.83

00:40:51.000 In terms of the global warming, I don't need a climatologist to say that this is a fraud.

00:40:56.000 As a historian, I can look back to the medieval warm period, 1100-1200.

00:41:02.000 When you have grapes growing in England, grapes growing in... What about Iberia Maxim 8,000 years ago, which brought us into the Bronze Age, and the first city-states?

00:41:13.000 I mean, it was 10 degrees hotter on average then.

00:41:15.000 They have the high scores, there's no doubting it.

00:41:17.000 We are well within the band of fluctuation of historical memory.

00:41:22.000 The other one, of course, is we have a little Ice Age, around 1600 to 1625, which corresponds to the Spera Minimum and the Maunder Minimum, In the sunspot cycle, it is basically determined by solar activity.

00:41:36.000 That's at least a major input, not by human activity at all.

00:41:40.000 And in that Little Ice Age, you had the ports of Northern Europe, the ports of Germany and the Netherlands frozen with ice, icebergs.

00:41:47.000 So the idea of being a climatologist means you're a charlatan and a fraud, because it's a discipline.

00:41:54.000 It's not meteorology.

00:41:55.000 It's not oceanography.

00:41:56.000 It's not any science.

00:41:58.000 It's not history.

00:41:59.000 It's a fake science invented by Al Gore, and all during the Clinton years, if you didn't agree with Al Gore, you would be fired.

00:42:07.000 Now come on, he claims he invented the internet too.

00:42:09.000 He certainly is the pimp pusher of it, but the Club of Rome in the early 60s said they would use threat of a fake Ice Age or global warming to bring in global taxes.

00:42:18.000 And remember, Aurelio Pache, the co-founder, was an old fascist.

00:42:23.000 And the other one was Alexander King, who once admitted that the purpose of this was genocide in the third world.

00:42:28.000 He said, you know, the reason we preach this, after all, is to block development of the third world. 1.00

00:42:34.000 That is still the same.

00:42:35.000 And that's in the British Commission on Population, 44 to 49, which was rolled into State Department Memorandum 200.

00:42:42.000 Yes, and beyond the 200, remember that this was all institutionalized under Carter, under Muskie, as Global 2000 and Global Futures, under Brzezinski, Trilateral, Rockefeller, So you basically got Kissinger as a puppet of Nelson Rockefeller, Brzezinski as a puppet of David Rockefeller, and that's pretty much the way the thing is run.

00:43:03.000 Continue, flush that out.

00:43:05.000 Well, then, you know, the idea of having a world population reduction, i.e.

00:43:11.000 military genocide, built into the U.S.

00:43:14.000 foreign policy is this Global 2000, Global Futures, and then what do they do?

00:43:19.000 They turn around and implement that by supporting Paul Pott, who goes very far, right?

00:43:24.000 He's the champion in terms of proportional genocide.

00:43:27.000 I think he manages to kill 30 to 40 percent of the Cambodian population.

00:43:32.000 And Khomeini, who aborts the entire industrialization process of Iran. 0.90

00:43:38.000 What they're trying to show is that third world populations can be organized against themselves to destroy themselves. 1.00

00:43:44.000 And ultimately that's what Obama is.

00:43:46.000 A fascist mass movement is the organization of a population against itself Let's go to Elliot in Ohio.

00:43:52.000 You're on the air.

00:43:53.000 No, I'm afraid I haven't.

00:43:54.000 Let's go to Elliott in Ohio.

00:43:56.000 You're on the air.

00:43:57.000 So I researched this maybe two days ago.

00:44:04.000 Have you heard of the first 13th Amendment?

00:44:06.000 No, I'm afraid I haven't.

00:44:10.000 Go ahead.

00:44:10.000 I was on Jordan Maxwell's side, and then I went to one of his lengths.

00:44:14.000 And yeah, in In 1983, these two guys, research expert David Dodge and former Baltimore police investigator Tom Dunn, they were in the Belfast Library on the coast of Maine.

00:44:27.000 They found a constitution from 1825 And, uh, there was actually a missing, there's a missing 13th Amendment in our Constitution.

00:44:36.000 It was ratified in 1819 and has not been repealed.

00:44:40.000 There were more than 30 original broadsheets made and quite a few of them are still around.

00:44:44.000 I've heard of, well, go ahead.

00:44:48.000 Well, I mean, like, it's titles of nobility and honor.

00:44:51.000 It says, if any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honor, Yes, speak of the devil.

00:45:05.000 John, I sent you that clip from C-SPAN of former Secretary of State Colin Powell telling the reporter that he's a knight commander, order of the bath.

00:45:14.000 Will you cue that up, please?

00:45:15.000 I sure will.

00:45:15.000 Thank you.

00:45:16.000 Go ahead, Elliot.

00:45:18.000 Yeah, retain any present pension officer or emolument of any kind, whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power Such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States.

00:45:29.000 Yes, I'm saying you can't be a foreign agent, basically, which makes sense, and I have a... If I may, I have a question about... Now, I know what you're talking about, and it does exist, and I wrote about this in 1996 in Executive Intelligence Review.

00:45:41.000 You might find it on the Internet.

00:45:43.000 It's an article that says U.S.

00:45:44.000 Constitution bars Powell from the presidency because he had become this British nobleman.

00:45:50.000 Yeah, we do know of it.

00:45:52.000 The U.S.

00:45:52.000 Constitution right now says You cannot hold an office of profit and trust under the United States.

00:45:58.000 In other words, you can't be in the executive branch or the Supreme Court if you accept the title of nobility.

00:46:03.000 And that plays into the Logan Act as a... as in the code blocking that.

00:46:09.000 But this one goes further.

00:46:10.000 It says, if you accept such a title of nobility, you cease to be a citizen.

00:46:13.000 Yes, it's currently in there.

00:46:14.000 That's what I had known.

00:46:15.000 I was ready to attack Rudy.

00:46:17.000 Sir Rudy Giuliani would have been coming under attack from me.

00:46:21.000 On this, if he had gotten the Republican... Yes, Elliot, that is legitimate.

00:46:24.000 You refresh our memory.

00:46:25.000 Thank you.

00:46:25.000 And speaking of Powell and the nobility, here is the audio clip right now.

00:46:31.000 Knight Commander of the Order of the Bat.

00:46:37.000 Her Majesty gave it to Almond to me about 12 years ago.

00:46:42.000 Knight Commander.

00:46:43.000 Listen carefully.

00:46:45.000 Knight Commander of the Order of the Bat.

00:46:51.000 We have the video clip up on Infowars.com.

00:46:54.000 We put it up there.

00:46:55.000 When Queen Elizabeth II was here in town last year surveying her lands, they had a White House function.

00:47:03.000 They were announcing who they were, and much of the administration coming in were being announced by their British titles and giving fealty to the Queenie.

00:47:13.000 So I hope that answers your question, Elliot.

00:47:15.000 Let's go to Cliff in Virginia.

00:47:17.000 Cliff, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:47:22.000 Hello?

00:47:22.000 Yes, Cliff, go ahead.

00:47:24.000 Yeah, how you doing today?

00:47:26.000 Enjoying your show, by the way, also.

00:47:29.000 My question is this, Mr. Tarpley, is I read a report several months ago here where China sent word to Illuminati operatives that if they tried to indeed, you know, make any type of move toward China, and it's, shall I say, their friends, which will be Russia and Iran did or friendship packs they have and old obligation deals.

00:47:51.000 What will be the next move for the Illuminati now that Bush more or less has gotten punched in the mouth by Putin over this Georgia fiasco and the fact that China plainly stated that any aggression made toward China and the people running the Illuminati would be assassinated?

00:48:13.000 Yeah. - I mean, I'm like, I mean, there's two questions there.

00:48:15.000 What do you think of Benjamin Fulford, the former Forbes writer who meets with Rockefeller on video and says he's been told by the Asian elite, the mafia, that they know about the population reduction plan and the bioweapon attack plan that Cheney talks about in the PNAC documents, September 2000, Rebuilding America's Defenses.

00:48:32.000 So, A, what do you think of that?

00:48:34.000 And then B, kind of a recap of what does this do now that this didn't go well in Georgia?

00:48:42.000 Let me do it the other way.

00:48:43.000 I don't use this concept of Illuminati because I think this is just pure confusion.

00:48:48.000 The notion that a society founded in Bavaria runs the world, in my view, is just absurd.

00:48:55.000 What you're dealing with is the city of London, British, and Wall Street, the U.S.

00:49:01.000 That's the operative unit.

00:49:03.000 And these terms like New World Order and Illuminati, I think they contribute to confusion rather than clarity.

00:49:08.000 Even though all these presidents use them and hail it and swear sovereignty.

00:49:12.000 Yeah, look, the origin of this Illuminati, though, is British intelligence.

00:49:15.000 I know.

00:49:16.000 They're here to say, oh, we're not the main enemy in the world.

00:49:19.000 Those Bavarians are the main enemy. 0.98

00:49:22.000 All right, let me break this down for you, Webster.

00:49:22.000 This is just crazy.

00:49:25.000 There is an element to all of this.

00:49:27.000 The elites are obsessed with the occult.

00:49:29.000 The British system, let me finish, please, is masonic, and they really are into this, and they really do govern a lot of what they do according to it. 0.85

00:49:38.000 Sure, but now you're talking to Scottish Rite Freemasons of London and, you know, God knows other institutions, that they have the Club of the Isles and all sorts of other things.

00:49:48.000 But again, this Bavarian thing, this is the crazy part.

00:49:51.000 This is what the British themselves put out to say.

00:49:53.000 Well, that was just one agent.

00:49:55.000 That was Weisopp and the guy who got struck by lightning.

00:49:58.000 Thank you so much.

00:49:59.000 Wait, let's do the Fulford part.

00:50:01.000 There is a history of secret societies in China.

00:50:04.000 For example, Dr. Sun Yat-sen, when he wanted to do the Chinese Revolution in 1911, turned to something called the Red Door Society, the Hongmen Society.

00:50:16.000 However, I think this stuff now is, you have to look at this with tremendous skepticism, and here's why.

00:50:23.000 Suppose we have the Turkmen Islamic Party setting off some stunt in Beijing now for the Olympics. 0.99

00:50:32.000 If that's terrorism, either Mexico City 68 or Munich 72 style, you're going to have a wave of international sympathy with China. 0.73

00:50:43.000 Suppose now the Anglo-Americans have come up with a dialectical or two-phase false... Hold on! 0.60

00:50:50.000 We're going to do three minutes behind the scenes exclusively at the InfoWars.com streams and PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:50:55.000 Stay with us.

00:50:57.000 Okay, you got three minutes, Webster.

00:50:58.000 Go over this, then we're going to come back and finish up with Jeff and DJ and Matt.

00:51:03.000 Go ahead.

00:51:04.000 If you get the US and the British using this Turkmenistan, the tip, the Turkmenistan Islamic Party, And Commander Sayfula that we've seen, pulling a stunt in Beijing, with wet work, with the bodies, then you're going to get international sympathy with China. 0.50

00:51:22.000 Now suppose, in a second phase of a false flag, to magnify the world effect.

00:51:28.000 It's like going from 9-11 to anthrax, which is something, you know, 9-11 is for people in big cities only, high-rises, but anthrax is for anybody who gets the mail every day.

00:51:37.000 In other words, everybody in the world, practically, You can imagine a second phase.

00:51:43.000 Now suppose the US and the British strike in Beijing.

00:51:46.000 And then they say, um, the Chinese secret societies have given a press conference and they come forward and say, that's it.

00:51:56.000 We've had it.

00:51:57.000 You Anglo-Americans, we've had it up to here. 0.92

00:52:00.000 We're striking back.

00:52:01.000 We're going to bring down the internet.

00:52:03.000 We're going to destroy world financial transactions.

00:52:06.000 We're going to paralyze the world through the internet with logic bombs, denial of service, cyber warfare, and so forth.

00:52:14.000 This would then begin to turn world hatred and resentment against China in a very, very strong way.

00:52:21.000 So, I think if anybody believes that there are omnipotent Chinese secret societies, I don't think they are.

00:52:27.000 And everybody knew about the Anglo-Americans being genocidal, you know, going back to this Kissinger Memorandum of 1974 or Or the Carter administration. 1.00

00:52:38.000 Now, John D. Rockefeller III has been very, in his lifetime, very adamant about this stuff.

00:52:44.000 So I don't think it makes any particular sense that there is this war of the secret societies.

00:52:50.000 I think this is the kind of a story that I would approach with the greatest care and skepticism, because it lends itself to this kind of a false flag scenario.

00:53:00.000 It's a way to popularize that.

00:53:03.000 We know that Japan and China under the feudal system was run by secret hereditary societies, and they are dominant in many areas of life today, and so I think to pooh-pooh the reality of it is wrong, but also to give it omnipotence, as you said, I think is to overplay something that is not... Remember, suppose if you had some group saying, you know, we're the new Red Door Society, and we're destroying the Internet, Then the U.S.

00:53:28.000 could say, all right, that's it.

00:53:30.000 Yeah, that's another shadowy Goldstein type of wraith on which all of these other things can be hung like a scarecrow.

00:53:39.000 Right, and it could be like Sarajevo.

00:53:41.000 In other words, the Austrians say to Serbia, give us those criminals.

00:53:44.000 The U.S.

00:53:44.000 could say, okay, China, deliver us the 100 top members of the Red Door Society, and we're going to take care of them.

00:53:51.000 The Chinese have to say no. 1.00

00:53:52.000 We're going to come in with a final segment right now.

00:53:54.000 I understand, Webster.

00:53:55.000 Here we go.

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00:54:11.000 That's where you can always listen to the show.

00:54:13.000 It'll already broadcast 20 hours.

00:54:14.000 We'll be back live tomorrow.

00:54:16.000 Before we jam in, a few final calls from Webster Tarbley.

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00:55:07.000 Okay, let's jam in quickly here.

00:55:12.000 Let's jam in.

00:55:14.000 Jeff in Connecticut, you're on the air.

00:55:15.000 Hi, thanks for taking my call.

00:55:18.000 First time caller, but long time listener.

00:55:20.000 I'll be brief since I know you're short on time.

00:55:23.000 This does relate to what you've been talking about.

00:55:26.000 I read a link this morning.

00:55:28.000 It was from the Financial Times of London.

00:55:30.000 It was written by Peter Garnham.

00:55:32.000 And in it, it's just a couple sentences long, Ulrich Leutmann at Commerzbank said in a note that he expected the dollar to rise, quote, like a phoenix, quote unquote.

00:55:44.000 And he also said that in a very short period of time, quote unquote, sentiment turned by 180 degrees.

00:55:50.000 The market now believes that the U.S.

00:55:52.000 economy once again We'll be able to leave a crisis behind very quickly.

00:55:56.000 But they've said this three times in the last year.

00:55:58.000 It always goes up and then further down the next time.

00:56:01.000 I hope it goes up and they can artificially do it.

00:56:04.000 But all the real market fundamentals show the dollar has been devalued.

00:56:08.000 They keep printing it.

00:56:09.000 You have this debt, liquidity, hundreds of millions a month being pumped into financial institutions.

00:56:14.000 Webster, what do you see happening?

00:56:16.000 The main thing you have is a violent contraction of employment and production.

00:56:20.000 Detroit is collapsing.

00:56:22.000 The big three automakers are collapsing.

00:56:24.000 Their subcontractors are collapsing.

00:56:26.000 Generally speaking, manufacturing employment in this country is really on its last legs.

00:56:31.000 So this contraction, which is expressed in growing unemployment and growing unreported unemployment, those who have given up in despair, we'd have to look at things like freight car loadings and truck loadings.

00:56:45.000 Real, tangible, physical, economic indices.

00:56:48.000 And you will see that this economy is approaching the point of thermodynamic breakdowns.

00:56:52.000 And they're telling us everything's wonderful.

00:56:54.000 But after that, the financial panic will happen.

00:56:57.000 They put these stories out.

00:56:58.000 The Plunge Protection Team, of course, as everybody knows, props them up with the help of Helicopter Ben Bernanke.

00:57:04.000 They've now got the entire Wall Street, be it JPMorgan Chase, Citibank, and Goldman, and Lehman Brothers, and Morgan Stanley, and Merrill, and UBS.

00:57:14.000 All of them are on life support.

00:57:16.000 They're all getting huge injections of Federal Reserve liquidity, and the question is, you know, how long before that becomes generalized hyperinflation on the German 1923 model.

00:57:26.000 Yeah, we're out of time.

00:57:27.000 We're out of time.

00:57:28.000 We're out of time.

00:57:29.000 Sorry to DJ and Matt.

00:57:30.000 Call back tomorrow.

00:57:31.000 I'll put you up first, or next time.

00:57:32.000 Tarpley's on.

00:57:33.000 Webster, thank you for spending time with us.

00:57:35.000 His book is Obama, You Bet the Postmodern Coup, available at Infowars.com.

00:57:40.000 Take care, Webster.

00:57:41.000 Bye-bye.

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