Alex Jones Show - 20080903_Wed_Radio

00:00:04.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Well, we have a power-packed interview.

00:00:33.000 Information pack radio transmission for you today on this Wednesday the third day of September 2008 Coming up in one hour spoken word artist Punk rock star you name it Henry Rollins will be joining us to talk about internet censorship the new world order and much more Then William Engel doll will be joining us a global expert on us Russian relations us NATO

00:01:03.000 slash Russian relations.

00:01:05.000 He'll be joining us coming up today as well from Germany.

00:01:10.000 We have Nick Bacchus from We Are Change Minnesota who got pepper sprayed last night during the Rage Against the Machine free concert.

00:01:17.000 The police basically attacked everybody.

00:01:20.000 The police are certainly out of control and in the wrong in Minnesota.

00:01:23.000 We just report the facts here.

00:01:25.000 People were shocked when I went to Denver and pretty much said the police We're professional and did a good job compared to other cities.

00:01:32.000 Well, they're doing a horrible New World Order job in Minneapolis-St.

00:01:38.000 Paul for the RNC, and that is just the fact.

00:01:40.000 So he'll be joining us here in about five minutes.

00:01:44.000 Speaking of rage against the machine, last Wednesday I ran into Tom Morello.

00:01:50.000 It's already been seven days, and I just now had time to put the video together and We posted it last night for PrisonPlanet.tv members.

00:01:58.000 It has not been made public yet for PrisonPlanet.tv members.

00:02:01.000 We're working on that right now.

00:02:05.000 There's a bunch of other videos.

00:02:08.000 The Jerome Corsi interview, we did.

00:02:12.000 The Ralph Nader interview, we did the video of that.

00:02:16.000 The Cindy Sheehan behind-the-scenes interview that nobody's seen or heard.

00:02:20.000 We got some little bit of Sean Penn stuff.

00:02:24.000 We got the Brolin information as well, and I've only got two guys, Rob Jacobson and Aaron Dykes, and I showed up this morning, and guess who was here all night?

00:02:35.000 Guess who got here at 9 a.m. yesterday, and guess who was here this morning, Aaron Dykes, because he's on the case!

00:02:43.000 He ended up doing research and putting together, I said, yeah, take a few days, make a video exposing Michelle Malkin, how they set us up.

00:02:51.000 He's done that it's uploading to YouTube right now the guy has been working for 26 hours straight and I told him I said do not do this anymore But he said look I can't help it once I started the investigation of this.

00:03:08.000 It's more true than what we'd even said originally We have them now Now, there are hundreds of YouTube videos alone of Michelle Malkin confrontation, videos edited to make it sound like I'm saying killer, major setups.

00:03:22.000 I'm asking you, when this goes live on YouTube in the next hour, to go absolutely ape with it.

00:03:30.000 I don't want to go into details here, but Michelle Malkin's company has been calling people associated with her, have been calling affiliates I'm on, Genesis, Emmis, other outlets, and trying to get me kicked off the radio.

00:03:46.000 Now, that's laughable that Genesis would do that, but who knows with Emmis?

00:03:51.000 And, you know, I've been getting calls from executives, you know, did you say killer?

00:03:55.000 The whole issue is, you know, did I say killer? 0.82

00:03:58.000 Because obviously, I would be a super loose can of them running around saying kill women in the streets, even though she says put us in camps and torture people. 1.00

00:04:06.000 Still, that's not proper.

00:04:08.000 Well, I didn't say that, but their deception is quite thick. 0.99

00:04:13.000 And I guess I'm going to have to sue Tom Davis, because that son of a bitch, excuse my language there, is still going on his radio show on WBAP. 0.99

00:04:21.000 He fills in for Limbaugh, still saying I said killer. 0.99

00:04:24.000 People call in and say, but it isn't on the video.

00:04:26.000 And he says, well, Alex edited that out.

00:04:29.000 Alex did say killer.

00:04:31.000 Doesn't matter if the Dallas Morning News retracted it, removed it. 0.99

00:04:35.000 You know, you've got people nationally on the radio saying I should kill this woman. 0.89

00:04:39.000 And they mean to pin it on me, and so this video really exposes it A to Z from our cameras, other cameras, other perspectives, and it's going live any minute now, but the next hour it'll be up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

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00:08:00.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

00:08:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:06.000 We're going to be talking to Nick Bodkins of We Are Change, who was at a Rage Against the Machine event and got pepper sprayed last night.

00:08:20.000 Speaking of Rage Against the Machine, the Tom Morello interview, parts of it, it's coming up a little bit later in the shower.

00:08:25.000 I did last week with him, first time this is heard.

00:08:29.000 He talks about false flag terrorism.

00:08:31.000 That's coming up near the end of the shower.

00:08:32.000 We got Henry Rollins scheduled in the next hour after that.

00:08:37.000 And then, of course, we got an expert joining us on the situation with Russia.

00:08:42.000 William Engelhall, I think I'm pronouncing that correctly.

00:08:48.000 So that is coming up for you today.

00:08:51.000 I'm really proud of Jesse Ventura.

00:08:56.000 I knew behind the scenes that Ron Paul's got some mainline Republicans in his staff, which is fine.

00:09:03.000 You know, they're kind of libertarian bent, but they're scared to death of 9-11 truth, and I knew that Ventura had been encouraged not to talk about 9-11 truth.

00:09:14.000 But that he'd said, look, I'll talk about whatever I want to talk about, and then he was still invited to the rally for the Republic.

00:09:20.000 And I never brought this out three weeks ago when I was I guess four weeks ago when I was first aware of this, talking to Ventura and talking to others, it just came up.

00:09:33.000 And he gets up last night and says, yesterday afternoon, and says, you know what?

00:09:39.000 A lot of people don't want me to talk about this, but I'm going to talk about it 9-11.

00:09:45.000 I was talking to Ted Anderson that was in one of the VIP boxes, because he's a sponsor of it, and he said the John Birchers were squirming in their chairs.

00:09:54.000 Look, there's over 200 examples of false flag stage terrorism that are declassified, and 9-11 official story is a fairy tale, and if we don't grow some cojones in this country and start telling it like it is, we're going to lose this.

00:10:10.000 You understand?

00:10:10.000 They're going to set up a Soviet-slash-Nazi-style system.

00:10:14.000 That's what the New World Order does. 0.97

00:10:15.000 And they're going to drag you out of your middle-class house, and they're going to put you in a labor camp, bare minimum. 0.88

00:10:20.000 Fox News is back out pushing that.

00:10:23.000 So, these people killed over 200 million souls last century, so I'm not giving them any quarter.

00:10:31.000 And I just love Jesse Ventura.

00:10:36.000 I just absolutely love him.

00:10:39.000 Israeli Mossad let Nazi Mingala get away. 0.75

00:10:45.000 That's Associated Press.

00:10:46.000 You know, I was criticized by the ADL for saying this more than a decade ago.

00:10:52.000 I've been criticized by Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:10:56.000 I have been criticized on national radio for claiming that Mossad protected top Nazis.

00:11:04.000 Well, I just know it's mainline history, but you've got to read, you know, big thick textbooks on the subject.

00:11:09.000 It's admitted even in mainline history books.

00:11:11.000 You see, the Zionist, there's really three different groups of Zionists, but the classic Zionist, the original Zionist, you know, founded in the last 150 years, They thought some guy was the messiah and followed him and then he died. 0.71

00:11:23.000 He's supposed to be reincarnated.

00:11:25.000 That happened over a hundred years ago.

00:11:28.000 They actually wanted to force the Jews out of Europe and so they, early on, supported Hitler. 0.57

00:11:35.000 And some of his top propagandists and people who were allowed to run synagogues in Berlin and art houses and movie houses right in the middle of it all were Zionists. 0.95

00:11:45.000 And they would make Jews pay them a million in some cases, equivalent of $2 million a day. 0.79

00:11:54.000 We're talking tens of millions back then.

00:11:56.000 You can go to the ratio.

00:11:58.000 It's probably a million pounds is probably in 1940s numbers today.

00:12:04.000 I don't know.

00:12:05.000 What was the pound worth then?

00:12:07.000 We know many times what it is today.

00:12:08.000 But regardless, a lot of money to get out of Germany.

00:12:11.000 And they got laws passed, Zionist lobby. 0.91

00:12:14.000 People always ask, why didn't Roosevelt let Jews into the U.S.?

00:12:21.000 And why don't the Jewish groups criticize him for, predominantly the Zionist groups criticize him for not letting Jews into the U.S.?

00:12:29.000 Well, it's because they were the ones lobbying to keep Jews out of the U.S. because they said in all these public writings, a cow in Palestine is worth more than a hundred Jews.

00:12:42.000 And there's other quotes of, a dog in Palestine is worth more than a hundred old Jews. 0.97

00:12:47.000 Or, I mean, really? 0.90

00:12:49.000 See, the Zionists were communist, anti-religious, they hated the Orthodox Jews.

00:12:55.000 You're going, well, wait a minute, you just said they were founded by people that thought that this guy was a messiah.

00:13:00.000 Look, it's weird.

00:13:01.000 It all mixes together.

00:13:03.000 And so they made sure the Jews couldn't get out of Europe. 0.98

00:13:06.000 And yes, Hitler did kill a whole bunch of Jews, and did take their property, and did take their land, and did take their homes. 0.80

00:13:13.000 He did that to Germans, too. 0.88

00:13:15.000 you.

00:13:16.000 In Dallas, my grandfather grew up next to a German who was a famous inventor.

00:13:22.000 He invented air conditioning, or some important form of it thereof.

00:13:31.000 him have to sell his big house and basically become destitute because he had a German family in Germany. 1.00

00:13:37.000 And they took everything he had, to kill his family in Germany, this guy worth hundreds of millions then, did not... 0.61

00:13:49.000 And my grandfather lived, you know, in the semi-German community of Dallas.

00:13:57.000 By that, there were other folks living in the area, but kind of like Ron Paul came from a German community in Pittsburgh.

00:14:02.000 Same thing in Dallas, and so my grandfather was in this community, being German, William Hammond.

00:14:10.000 And I remember hearing those stories around the breakfast table when I was visiting my grandparents.

00:14:14.000 They lived in Austin when I was growing up.

00:14:17.000 About that. 0.98

00:14:18.000 So, I mean, they were sucking the money. 1.00

00:14:19.000 They were thugs, folks. 0.99

00:14:21.000 You ever seen, um, Gosford Park?

00:14:25.000 Uh, you know, uh, about the Germans, and the Germans are visiting, and while all this intrigue's going on, uh, at the, uh, British Lord's house, and how they're assessing when he's out of the room, which paintings they're going to take as soon as they took over England.

00:14:40.000 I mean, that was exactly what the Nazis were doing. 0.58

00:14:43.000 See, see, I exposed the Zionists, and I exposed the Nazis. 0.93

00:14:47.000 I forgot I have a guest holding and I apologize.

00:14:50.000 I looked at this headline here, Israeli Mossad let Nazi Mingala get away, Associated Press.

00:14:58.000 And the notorious death camp doctor, but because he was CIA, they let him go.

00:15:04.000 Well yeah, Klaus Barbie ran the first cocaine and heroin shipments after World War II into the U.S. and trained the CIA.

00:15:11.000 I mean, that's who runs our country.

00:15:12.000 And I will be called evil for saying it's wrong to let Joseph Mingla go.

00:15:17.000 The Nazis will hate me, and the Zionists will hate me. 0.94

00:15:20.000 And so be it.

00:15:21.000 I refuse to hate either group because of what race you are.

00:15:25.000 All right, we now go to Nick We Are Change.

00:15:33.000 Vatican's, I believe.

00:15:34.000 I keep mispronouncing his name.

00:15:35.000 Nick, thank you for coming on with us.

00:15:38.000 What happened to you last night?

00:15:39.000 Alex, it's good to be on.

00:15:41.000 Well, uh, last night We were at the Campaign for Liberty, and there was about eight of us with We Are Change.

00:15:48.000 You know, we had the Ohio and the Colorado chapters up here.

00:15:52.000 And we heard on the local radio station that Rage Against the Machine was going to do an impromptu concert at the end of a concert already going on at the state capitol.

00:16:05.000 So we took half our team and rushed down there in time to get...

00:16:08.000 Now let's be clear, there was already a permitted one and they said, hey, we'll just add a rage on for a few songs and the police said nada.

00:16:15.000 Right. From what it appeared, the permit lasted until 7 and they were going to start at about 6.15 and we got there at about 6. As soon as the last performer was on, they cut the power to the stage, the state patrol padlocked the generators.

00:16:33.000 to the stage.

00:16:35.000 And then they said Rage couldn't play, blocked him from getting on the stage.

00:16:40.000 was right in the heat of that, getting the footage of the cops telling him That's Anthony Yasha with We Are Change Minnesota.

00:16:49.000 Yep. And so they ended up going in front of the crowd off the stage after not letting them play and singing through a megaphone to the crowd.

00:17:02.000 And then, of course, everyone was upset through this whole thing knowing that the police weren't So then, uh...

00:17:32.000 Instead of it being an impromptu concert, it turned into an impromptu rally going down to the Xcel Energy Center.

00:17:39.000 And, um, most, uh, everyone was peaceful through the protest, um, but St. Paul requires permits to be there.

00:17:46.000 That's right, First Amendment.

00:17:47.000 Now, again, a permit is a right to do something that would be illegal.

00:17:50.000 And so, you're demonstrating is illegal in America.

00:17:53.000 Go ahead.

00:17:55.000 And, uh, made it through to the Xcel Energy Center.

00:17:58.000 Um, then there were reports of some people getting, uh, Um, tear gas or pepper sprayed back, uh, two blocks from where we were.

00:18:07.000 So the whole crowd ran back that way.

00:18:10.000 And, um, as far as we could tell, nothing had happened yet.

00:18:13.000 It was just a rumor.

00:18:14.000 And the police were giving dispersal orders as the crowd was walking through.

00:18:20.000 And there was obviously some people, uh, just standing there trying to, you know, just, uh, you know, protesting.

00:18:30.000 And... We got the footage of all this.

00:18:32.000 Here we got Anthony and Jeremiah right on the police line watching the police officer pull the pin on the tear gas, throw it into the crowd.

00:18:43.000 And after they gave a dispersal order.

00:18:50.000 And basically it was just crazy.

00:18:56.000 Everyone started running around.

00:18:57.000 Some people were just standing right in the thick of it.

00:19:00.000 Taking all that tear gas.

00:19:01.000 And how did it all end?

00:19:06.000 Well, some people regrouped at the Capitol.

00:19:11.000 I think some people were doing some smaller mini-marches afterwards, but we don't have any footage of that.

00:19:16.000 Pretty much ended after the police moved in, and said you can't be protesting and tear-gassed everybody.

00:19:24.000 Were the police able to get their Mitch on Tomarello and crew?

00:19:29.000 you.

00:19:30.000 Um, I don't think anyone was arrested.

00:19:32.000 So, uh, I think it was just, they just wanted us to disperse.

00:19:37.000 They wanted the group to disperse.

00:19:39.000 Yeah, you can't let the slaves gather.

00:19:41.000 First Amendment says that slaves can gather. 1.00

00:19:43.000 That would be free men.

00:19:45.000 Slaves are not allowed to gather in the plantation. 0.99

00:19:47.000 That would be broken up by their minders in black uniforms. 0.98

00:19:50.000 Anything else you'd like to add, Nick?

00:19:53.000 Yeah, we'll have the footage.

00:19:54.000 Stay there.

00:19:55.000 We're gonna be right back.

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00:24:21.000 Right now, we're talking to Nick We Are Change, Minnesota.

00:24:31.000 Nick, was something else you were going to add about what you saw last night with the police?

00:24:39.000 Yeah, um, it was just, uh, the footage that we get up will speak for itself.

00:24:45.000 I mean, just, unprovoked attack by police.

00:24:49.000 Um, they tear gassed the crowd just at when they were expressing a First Amendment right.

00:24:54.000 Uh, nobody that we saw or recorded was doing anything Awesome, and for ease of access, folks, you better believe it'll be up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com as soon as possible.

00:25:22.000 In fact, as soon as we can see this video, and I've already seen some news reports about it, Yeah, we'll do, Alex.

00:25:37.000 Appreciate it.

00:25:38.000 Take care.

00:25:38.000 It's very simple.

00:25:42.000 you have 90% of the American people wanting to control the borders and both parties say no, you have tyranny.

00:25:47.000 When you have upwards of 80% of the American people not wanting any gun control and the Bill of Rights says don't have it, victim disarmament.

00:25:56.000 But the government still does it, you have tyranny.

00:25:59.000 When you have close to 80% being against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, but it intensifies and expands year after year, you have tyranny.

00:26:08.000 And so the establishment knows the majority of people are against the government, the government's illegitimate, it's criminal, and so they're going to go out and try to have a chilling effect and intimidate people not to demonstrate, not to protest, and at any provocation they're going to open fire with rubber bullets, sound cannons, microwave guns,

00:26:25.000 Pepper spray, mace, helicopters shining lights on you, beat, police beating you with an inch of your life, being tasered, they're gonna hang up signs saying electroshock use in this area, you know, inside their little FEMA camps. 0.54

00:26:39.000 This is about a message of stay in your house, shut up, and take what we're gonna do.

00:26:47.000 Federal handbooks over a decade ago we ran across said the black uniforms, the black mask are for intimidation.

00:26:53.000 And they talk about how when an officer then wears that outfit, they take on that archetype.

00:27:00.000 And then now police chiefs openly admit, yeah, we wear black to intimidate you.

00:27:06.000 This is a rogue government that is completely and totally out of control, doing what it wants, when it wants.

00:27:13.000 And the fact that I would be oh so happy the police You know, they didn't provocateur, or they didn't attack women with billy clubs in Denver.

00:27:22.000 I mean, they did run over and threaten us to turn our cameras off once, but we stood up and then they backed off.

00:27:27.000 They were only rude!

00:27:29.000 It's their wonderful, oh, I love them!

00:27:32.000 You know, people are all mad at me going, why are you defending them?

00:27:34.000 What have you sold out to them?

00:27:36.000 No, I'm just like...

00:27:37.000 I actually saw cops opening doors for people.

00:27:40.000 I saw some police smile at us and wave at us.

00:27:43.000 I... I had some cops say, keep it up, Alex, and I...

00:27:46.000 Saw them put up with a lot of baloney from some of the anarchists that were rushing them and trying to provocate and throwing things at them.

00:27:53.000 I saw manly restraint, which then allowed the First Amendment to flourish and didn't stall out.

00:28:01.000 I'm seeing the opposite in Minnesota.

00:28:05.000 It is shameful, it is despicable, it is un-American, it is wrong. 0.88

00:28:14.000 I mean, you try going to New York and having cops walk up to you and go, listen to me, boy!

00:28:20.000 You turn your camera off and you get out of here or I'll arrest you!

00:28:23.000 Now, why are you here?

00:28:24.000 Well, I'm here to...

00:28:25.000 I told you not to talk! 0.92

00:28:28.000 I got them on tape doing that.

00:28:32.000 And then grabbing me and putting me in handcuffs and putting them on and grunting with enjoyment, smashing them down on my wrist.

00:28:39.000 I mean, that's evil, folks, enjoying hurting some innocent person.

00:28:43.000 It's like they arrested AP reporters, two of them.

00:28:46.000 They arrested the very passive Democracy Now!

00:28:50.000 people. And then she just walks over and asks, where are my people?

00:28:54.000 I want to talk to your supervisor politely.

00:28:57.000 Boom! They grab her.

00:28:59.000 They charge them with felonies.

00:29:03.000 Taking part in a riot and assaulting police officers.

00:29:08.000 They've charged members, anchors, Of democracy now.

00:29:15.000 And lo and behold, there's video of them doing nothing.

00:29:18.000 Literally waddling around with their video cameras covering an event.

00:29:22.000 But see, it isn't just that they arrested them falsely. 0.99

00:29:25.000 You have charged them, and you're up against a multi-million dollar international media company, and you're gonna get your butts kicked. 0.91

00:29:31.000 Just like Amy Goodman talks about in a clip we've got.

00:29:34.000 New York has paid out over 200 million dollars just from the RNC in 2004.

00:29:40.000 Cops, you're gonna lose your jobs!

00:29:43.000 The Feds don't care. 0.99

00:29:44.000 They'll just...

00:29:45.000 They're just gonna hire more. 0.78

00:29:46.000 But you, you're gonna lose your job.

00:29:50.000 We're on the march.

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00:30:00.000 It is a big idea.

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00:30:05.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful new government.

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00:37:40.000 On the subject of the police state, there's no doubt the police are engaged in the provocations.

00:37:45.000 One group of anarchists, after they were blocked from protesting, did smash some windows and turn some things over.

00:37:52.000 Of course, Fox News was on hand for that.

00:37:54.000 And those groups are foundation funded and have now been used as a pretext to crack down on everyone.

00:38:02.000 This is shameful and before you roll your eyes, police and military have been caught in Canada, in England, in Australia, in Italy, in Russia, in the U.S. staging provocateur actions.

00:38:12.000 This is mainstream news.

00:38:15.000 And there is no doubt That we have at the bare minimum foundation anarchists.

00:38:19.000 You have three types.

00:38:19.000 Real anarchists, foundation anarchists that go out and stir up trouble, who are inadvertently funded by the government and don't know it, and then cops, crushers, anarchists attacking other police.

00:38:29.000 But I wanted to play some of Democracy Now!

00:38:31.000 a couple nights ago.

00:38:32.000 She got out of jail.

00:38:34.000 Her people are still in jail.

00:38:35.000 They are charged with felonies.

00:38:38.000 Felonies for being part of a public riot and assaulting police.

00:38:42.000 This is on video, not touching cops and being grabbed.

00:38:45.000 These are anchors of international television.

00:38:48.000 And the cops just dispense a frame-up, dispense a false witness, dispense a serious crime, a serious sin.

00:38:56.000 And when you've got the government, the authorities, the officials, making stuff up out of hand, come up and we are changed.

00:39:04.000 It's in Truth Rising and saying, we're gonna say you got bombs.

00:39:07.000 We know you don't have bombs and you're not a terrorist, but you're going to go to jail for being a terrorist.

00:39:10.000 Now scram! 0.99

00:39:14.000 Let's go ahead and roll some of Democracy Now!

00:39:19.000 I'm Malia Brooker.

00:39:20.000 You're watching Free Speech TV, and we are here with Amy Goodman, who was recently released.

00:39:25.000 Tell us what happened with you and the other Democracy Now!

00:39:28.000 producers. Well, Malia, I was arrested a few hours ago.

00:39:32.000 I was actually on the convention floor talking to delegates at the Republican National Convention from Minnesota and Alaska, because Sarah Palin, the governor, has been nominated to be vice president.

00:39:43.000 And I got a call on my cell phone that two of our producers, Sharif Abdel-Kadous and Nicole Thank you.

00:40:00.000 went up to the police officer and asked to speak to the commanding officer.

00:40:03.000 They arrested me.

00:40:05.000 They put me in handcuffs behind my back.

00:40:08.000 Uh, they forced me down on the ground.

00:40:10.000 Um, they, although I had all of my ID, you know, to get me onto the floor of the convention, you need top security ID. I had my democracy now ID very clearly marked.

00:40:21.000 And I had all of my identification.

00:40:23.000 Um, they took that from me.

00:40:25.000 The secret service took my, uh, security ID for the convention.

00:40:29.000 And they arrested me.

00:40:30.000 They took everything from me.

00:40:32.000 They brought me to the jail, which are, they have these pens in.

00:40:37.000 Inside the police garage We get out on Wednesday.

00:41:08.000 This is unacceptable.

00:41:09.000 We are there reporting what is happening.

00:41:11.000 It has been There were major peaceful protests today in St. Paul.

00:41:15.000 We're covering all of them.

00:41:17.000 We come from New York, where the police have paid out hundreds of millions of dollars as a result of the kind of activity that we're seeing some of here, after the Republican National Convention in 2004, when police just round up people wholesale.

00:41:34.000 Sheriff Odokudus and Nicole Salazar heard a commotion downstairs by 7th and Jackson here in St. Paul.

00:41:41.000 Nicole had her camera.

00:41:43.000 Sharif was with her.

00:41:44.000 They were fully identified.

00:41:46.000 When they saw the police converging from three places, it happened very quickly.

00:41:51.000 Nicole said to one of the officers, how do I leave?

00:41:54.000 They told her to go back.

00:41:55.000 But before she could do this, and the video she has of this is very dramatic, they pushed her to the ground.

00:42:02.000 They dragged her by her leg. 1.00

00:42:04.000 She was scratched on her face, trying to keep her face up as they were dragging her.

00:42:08.000 She got a bloody nose.

00:42:09.000 When I was arrested and arrested, I was demanding to be able to see our producer, to see Shruti Padukone and Nicole Salazar.

00:42:16.000 I said, she has a bloody nose. 1.00

00:42:18.000 I demand to see her.

00:42:20.000 He said, listen, what's a bloody nose?

00:42:22.000 I was knifed.

00:42:23.000 I said, sir, we were not responsible for that, meaning he was talking about a whole other time in his life.

00:42:28.000 I said, I am sorry that at some point in your life you were hurt like that, but that does not justify doing this to our reporter, to our producer.

00:42:35.000 This is unacceptable.

00:42:37.000 Reporters are the eyes and ears of the community.

00:42:40.000 We cannot be threatened.

00:42:41.000 We mustn't be jailed.

00:42:43.000 There is a reason why our profession is the only one explicitly protected by the U.S. Constitution.

00:42:48.000 We're supposed to be a check and balance on those in power.

00:42:51.000 And there is no more important time than now.

00:42:53.000 Nicole and Sharif have to be freed.

00:42:55.000 The police chief must be called.

00:42:59.000 They've got to get out of jail now.

00:43:01.000 This kind of oppression has to stop.

00:43:04.000 We have to be able to report to ensure that we live in a democratic society.

00:43:08.000 Democracy Now, of course, has been coming.

00:43:10.000 Now, in Denver, an ABC News reporter was filming fat cat Democrats meeting with Robert Barron's big corporate chiefs.

00:43:20.000 Democratic governors, senators.

00:43:24.000 And they ordered the camera taken, even though he was standing out on the street.

00:43:29.000 And the cops beat the daylights out of him.

00:43:31.000 And the cops have a hotel director or some senator tell them, attack that man.

00:43:36.000 Most of them do it.

00:43:37.000 They follow orders.

00:43:38.000 It's a gang mentality.

00:43:43.000 And the neocon blogs like Hot Air and others said, this is horrible, this is because he was a Republican and he wasn't a Republican.

00:43:50.000 They make it all left-right.

00:43:53.000 But then, when Democracy Now!

00:43:55.000 got attacked, Hot Air and others were like, oh, this is great, this is good.

00:43:59.000 I saw some of the other neocon blogs, you know, she deserves it, she's un-American. 1.00

00:44:04.000 See, that's the difference between this show and neocon or liberal shows.

00:44:08.000 When the Democrats do something bad, we expose it.

00:44:10.000 When the Republicans do something bad, we expose it.

00:44:12.000 We don't have this ideological blinders or glasses that distort what we're looking at.

00:44:21.000 Does that mean we see everything perfectly clear?

00:44:22.000 No. But we start from the perspective of standing back and really just objectively.

00:44:27.000 And that's why you'll get me on air sometimes saying the cops were pretty good in Denver.

00:44:31.000 People are like, what?

00:44:33.000 Because if it's the facts, I will report the facts.

00:44:38.000 And what happened in Minneapolis, St. Paul, to her people, and to her, with Democracy Now!, is unbelievably bad.

00:44:50.000 And you know what?

00:44:50.000 I'm defending her, even though I saw her at the Ralph Venter event, and she pushed past me, and was like, Alex Jones, no way I'm talking to you, and ran off.

00:44:58.000 Well, that's okay, you don't give me access, that's fine, I'm still going to report the facts of what happened to you.

00:45:02.000 Do I like the Democracy Now!

00:45:04.000 lady? She got beat up in East Timor. 1.00

00:45:07.000 She's got more will than most men.

00:45:10.000 She got beat up bad over there years ago covering things.

00:45:12.000 That's kind of how she made her bones, as they say. 1.00

00:45:16.000 But to have...

00:45:18.000 The bigger issue here is that we have the police beating up her people, and then falsely charging them.

00:45:26.000 I mean, that's a big issue.

00:45:27.000 You have to ask yourself, why do they do it publicly?

00:45:30.000 You see, that's when corruption's really bad, when the police don't even Hide that they're framing you.

00:45:38.000 When the government starts framing people, that is the worst form of tyranny.

00:45:41.000 That is just outrageous.

00:45:44.000 It's dangerous.

00:45:45.000 It's horrible.

00:45:49.000 And I've seen Austin police lie.

00:45:52.000 I've seen them come over and say right in front of the cameras, we're going to arrest you if you don't stop demonstrating on the sidewalk.

00:45:57.000 And then the press comes over and says, You know, I'm yelling on the bullhorn, the police just threatened to arrest me and, you know, we don't leave.

00:46:06.000 And the reporter comes over and says, is that true?

00:46:08.000 I said, well, of course it's true.

00:46:09.000 Goes over to the head cop and says, did you threaten to arrest him if they don't leave?

00:46:13.000 And he says, no, Alex is lying.

00:46:17.000 And then I ended up showing the reporter back on the tape up and showing the reporter what he really said.

00:46:21.000 And the reporter was stunned from a San Antonio paper.

00:46:25.000 He couldn't, he, that was a wake up for him.

00:46:27.000 He's like, that cop, this, uh, commander just lied.

00:46:31.000 Well, of course he just lied!

00:46:33.000 And then he loses all respect! 0.98

00:46:36.000 I am not gonna kiss his hind end. 0.88

00:46:38.000 I am not gonna sit there when he tried to bully my First Amendment.

00:46:42.000 And believe me, I don't like going up against these guys.

00:46:43.000 You think, you don't think I don't know they won't taser me to death in the back of the car?

00:46:47.000 You don't think I don't know they'll set me up and come raid my house and plant drugs on me?

00:46:50.000 You don't think I don't...

00:46:51.000 You think I enjoy fighting these evil, powerful people?

00:46:58.000 No, I do it because I have to, ladies and gentlemen.

00:47:02.000 Now let's talk about somebody who's got a lot of courage.

00:47:04.000 Here's Jesse Ventura yesterday talking about how people didn't want him to talk about 9-11 being an inside job, but he did it anyways at the rally for the Republic.

00:47:12.000 And hey, I can support Ron Paul and them even though they shy away from this.

00:47:16.000 I don't expect them to buy into everything we say or do, but they invited Jesse and encouraged him not to talk about it, and he did.

00:47:24.000 So here it is.

00:47:26.000 I'm going to go on to another subject that a lot of people don't want to discuss today.

00:47:31.000 I know when I discuss it, it's amazing.

00:47:34.000 I get attacked.

00:47:36.000 And that's called something called 9-11.

00:47:39.000 What?

00:47:50.000 Why is it that when you ask questions about 9-11, it's out of bounds?

00:47:57.000 Well, I got news for you.

00:47:58.000 When I was going through underwater demolition SEAL training, when I got to the demolition phase, I had a Chief Warrant Officer who taught me that there is no dumb question.

00:48:14.000 That if you don't understand something, you are not out of line for asking a question.

00:48:22.000 And I think that when you ask that question, you have every right and deserve to get an honest answer.

00:48:30.000 Thank you.

00:48:36.000 Well, here's my question that I want you all to- two questions I want you to think about today.

00:48:43.000 Number one, why has the United States Department of Justice not charged Osama Bin Laden for 9-11?

00:48:58.000 Now, they charged him when he blew up our embassy in Africa in 98. Why the biggest terrorism act in history have they failed to officially charge him for?

00:49:12.000 Why have they not convened a grand jury, presented their evidence, and got an indictment?

00:49:24.000 Second, second, go to the internet and go to the FBI website.

00:49:32.000 And go to their international list of top ten terrorists.

00:49:36.000 You will see Bin Laden there.

00:49:39.000 Bring his name up in his picture.

00:49:42.000 Amazingly, all the charges, the Embassy of 98 and all this other stuff, is all listed.

00:49:48.000 But ironically, nothing on 9-11.

00:49:52.000 Nothing! Now, when the FBI was pressed as to why 9-11 wasn't included, Their response was, we don't have enough evidence.

00:50:06.000 Now people, if you're like me, that is extremely disturbing.

00:50:13.000 We fought two wars, we've changed our entire foreign policy, and we've had the Patriot Act put on us, all supposedly because of Osama Bin Laden. 0.84

00:50:30.000 I think we should have the charge.

00:50:32.000 Aren't you innocent in this country until proven guilty?

00:50:36.000 We're gonna come back and finish up the end of this.

00:50:39.000 We'll come back and finish the end of this.

00:50:42.000 And I'll play part of the Tom Morello interview.

00:50:44.000 Play a little bit more of it later.

00:50:47.000 Supposedly gonna have Henry Rollins on in about 10 minutes.

00:50:50.000 And we've got a top foreign policy expert on the Russia-US split.

00:50:55.000 It's all coming up.

00:50:56.000 Stay with us.

00:51:00.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

00:51:07.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

00:51:10.000 But who is the enemy?

00:51:11.000 Bin Laden.

00:51:12.000 This is his ammo.

00:51:13.000 We have to look to the Middle East.

00:51:15.000 We have to look to America.

00:51:18.000 Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.

00:51:34.000 ...

00:51:35.000 Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.

00:51:45.000 Fabled Enemies.

00:51:46.000 Get the DVD at InfoWars.com or see it in super high quality along with hundreds of other titles at PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:51:53.000 Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.

00:52:00.000 Honey, have you seen the remote?

00:52:02.000 Sweetie, have you seen my car keys?

00:52:04.000 I can't find my wallet!

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00:54:08.000 We've fought two wars, we've changed our entire foreign policy, and we've had the Patriot Act put on us.

00:54:17.000 All supposedly because of Osama Bin Laden.

00:54:23.000 Well, I think we should have to charge.

00:54:27.000 Aren't you innocent in this country until proven guilty?

00:54:32.000 Well, as distasteful as that is, he deserves the same thing.

00:54:40.000 He needs to be charged.

00:54:42.000 Why is he not charged if he did it?

00:54:48.000 I'm down to four minutes.

00:54:49.000 They got the clock timer here, so we'll start winding it up.

00:54:54.000 No, no, no.

00:54:54.000 But again, I leave you with those two thoughts to think about.

00:55:00.000 To think about a moment.

00:55:02.000 Why has that not happened?

00:55:04.000 Why did we have a president who stonewalled any investigation of 9-11 for over two years?

00:55:11.000 Well, all I'm saying is that...

00:55:17.000 Give it! 0.85

00:55:19.000 The truth lies with us, ladies and gentlemen.

00:55:22.000 The truth lies with us.

00:55:26.000 Let's go ahead and play part.

00:55:27.000 We'll play more later of Tom Morello, one of the founders of Rage Against the Machine, who we had a chance to talk to behind the stage, backstage, last Wednesday night at a Ralph Nader rally that had more than 5,000 people and I think about 8,000.

00:55:43.000 Here it is.

00:55:44.000 Tom Morello, they call me the mic watch.

00:55:47.000 I think that's, you know, it's, it's, it's, When the media speaks of terrorism, it tends to be in the context of lone bandits from Middle Eastern countries, where most of the terrorism that actually occurs in the world is government sponsored.

00:56:03.000 Whether it's the Bush administration or the Putin administration, terror is something that's not unfamiliar to government.

00:56:10.000 just because they have Humvees and satellite tracking doesn't mean that it's not terrorism.

00:56:17.000 The result is all the same.

00:56:19.000 It's nothing new that governments will, from Gulf of Tonkin to the main in the Spanish-American War, it's embedded, unfortunately, in the DNA of American politics.

00:56:36.000 And really it's that kind of...

00:56:38.000 We'll do anything to get what we want at the end of whatever imperialist objective we have at the end of the day.

00:56:44.000 I'm here tonight to support the Open the Debates event, and because it's very hard to say no to Ralph Maynard when he calls you on your cell phone and says, I'd like you to come play my event.

00:56:55.000 I've always supported Ralph's politics as someone who's been able to To expand the goalposts and add ideas to political discourse that are ones that are not normally found in the Republican or the Democratic parties.

00:57:11.000 Even though my girlfriend said to me, that Ralph Nader, he's trouble!

00:57:15.000 Don't play that thing! 1.00

00:57:15.000 I was like, you know what, he's trouble and that's why I love him. 1.00

00:57:18.000 I've been trouble myself for much of my life.

00:57:21.000 But I'm very happy to come here and support this, open the debates at that, and continue to pressure for issues that are very important to me, which are social and economic justice, ending the war, and environmental policy that is sane.

00:57:36.000 The thing I appreciate about Ralph is that he's uncompromising, unlike most politicians.

00:57:41.000 I worked for two years as U.S.

00:57:43.000 Senator Alan Cranston's scheduling secretary.

00:57:47.000 He was about as progressive a member of the U.S.

00:57:49.000 Senate as ever existed.

00:57:51.000 But most, 80% of the time I spent with him, he was on the phone asking rich guys for money.

00:57:55.000 So, you know, a lot of times, if you want to find a criminal, just follow the pipeline.

00:58:00.000 And Ralph has never been on the pipeline.

00:58:03.000 Amen. All right.

00:58:07.000 The video is going to be going up live on PrisonPlanet.tv for members.

00:58:14.000 But I've been waiting a day for this to happen.

00:58:16.000 It'll be up there in high quality for you.

00:58:17.000 We're just going live with the YouTube for everybody right now.

00:58:19.000 We'll just do it ourselves.

00:58:21.000 Some deal with our C.E.N.

00:58:23.000 Holding it up.

00:58:26.000 Also, the Michelle Malkin expose.

00:58:29.000 The Michelle Malkin hoax.

00:58:33.000 Is being exposed that just went live on YouTube.

00:58:35.000 I need your help getting that out to everybody stay with us Thank you for listening to GCN be sure to visit GCN live.com today Do you like being a puppet, sir? Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?

00:59:01.000 How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?

00:59:03.000 This was the engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trollateral Commission, the CFR.

00:59:08.000 The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.

00:59:17.000 Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.

00:59:23.000 An inside job?

00:59:25.000 How dare you?

00:59:28.000 If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.

00:59:33.000 All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.

00:59:36.000 And if the government has not told the truth, in five years we will be here on the 10th anniversary of 9-11.

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01:00:25.000 We've got more of that interview I did with Tom Morello coming up later in the broadcast today for Rage Against the Machine.

01:00:32.000 We bumped into it at the DNC last week, just now airing that here.

01:00:37.000 But for the next 30 minutes, Henry Rollins.

01:00:39.000 I guess it's Rockstar Day here on the show.

01:00:42.000 Henry Rollins.

01:00:43.000 I remember being a little teenager listening to Black Flag and stuff like that.

01:00:48.000 Of course, he has the Henry Rollins Band.

01:00:49.000 And a lot of you know who he is.

01:00:51.000 Some of you out there with a very diverse audience might not know who he is.

01:00:55.000 But we'll get out some of the websites and tell you about his tour later.

01:00:58.000 Uh, that is going around the country and the world right now, but I wanted to get his take on web censorship, how they're trying to censor and shut down the web.

01:01:06.000 He's really been fighting against that and I agree with him there.

01:01:09.000 His kind of complex and nuanced view on terrorism, the police state, uh, we'll be talking to him here in the next 30 minutes.

01:01:17.000 Henry Rollins, thanks for coming on with us.

01:01:19.000 Oh, fine.

01:01:19.000 Let's talk about, uh, my nuanced and complex view on, on, uh, terrorism.

01:01:25.000 You want to get into that first?

01:01:26.000 Well, I don't, uh, how am I nuanced or complex?

01:01:30.000 Well, I'm trying to say it that way because I haven't had too much time to fully, constantly follow what you're doing, but every few months I see something you've said or done and it seems diverse.

01:01:39.000 I don't want to say contradictory, uh, and so by that I meant you can actually flesh it out for us.

01:01:45.000 Okay. Well, what's the point that sticks with you?

01:01:49.000 You know, again, over the years I know people's views change too and kind of, uh, The police state in America?

01:02:08.000 Yes. Outside of America.

01:02:26.000 The fact that the Washington Post had to brief America that Homeland Security finds it okay to detain your electronic media, your laptop or anything, your iPod, when you come into an airport in America, a foreigner or an American citizen, and they can take your laptop or whatever and download the information, distribute the information to all the intelligence agencies at an off-site location.

01:02:50.000 And hold on to that information and your computer or anything else for as long as they feel.

01:02:56.000 Enough Europeans complained that finally the Washington Post broke this story.

01:03:00.000 A lot of Americans, myself included, did not know that they could do that.

01:03:05.000 I don't know how taking my laptop away from me is going to stop the anger that is engendered by people.

01:03:17.000 In the world, when we go into their countries and push them around, and so checking my laptop, or reading my email, or being able to tap my phones easily, I don't know what that is, how that's going to help ease down terror in Saudi Arabia, or anger.

01:03:38.000 Well, we know it isn't, but it's going to allow the military-industrial complex to train the American people.

01:03:44.000 They have no liberties or freedoms and condition us to line up and put our hands up and have no Fourth Amendment.

01:03:49.000 Right. And that's too bad, because a lot of Americans will start to think...

01:03:55.000 The thing I really hate is when someone says, well, I've got nothing to hide.

01:03:58.000 Well, that's not really the point.

01:04:00.000 When you say you have nothing to hide, basically, you've just basically cowed and caved into this.

01:04:06.000 And I think a review is in order.

01:04:09.000 But meanwhile, the national security state is becoming more secretive than ever.

01:04:13.000 They've made it national security where they can dump toxic waste and we can't know.

01:04:17.000 Right. And again, this is just...

01:04:20.000 If you're in the big business, if you really need the rails greased to get things going, and you don't want government in the way of pushing things through, And one of the ways you kind of clear the path is to scare the living hell out of people.

01:04:35.000 And when the going gets rough, the average get conservative.

01:04:37.000 And that's the story of America.

01:04:39.000 And a lot of Americans who hate this country or can't stay in that country, they get their information from Sean Hannity, yet they can't find this place on a map, nor can they program their own VCRs.

01:04:51.000 And these are the people who want assault rifles.

01:04:53.000 All right, Henry Rollins, stay there.

01:04:56.000 We're going to be back in three quick minutes to talk more with his very...

01:04:59.000 Very interesting individual.

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01:08:58.000 Radio talk show host, he is Henry Rollins.

01:09:01.000 We were getting into His views on the whole police state and what's happening, and we were going over the fact that having you line up and have them kidnap your laptop without a warrant, that's all part of setting a precedent that there is no Bill of Rights or Constitution and using the threat of terrorism as a pretext.

01:09:16.000 Henry, what do you think about government-sponsored terrorism like Gulf of Tonkin, or the Reichstag, or the USS Liberty, or the Maine Operation Gladio, Operation Cyclone?

01:09:30.000 I mean, I'm not defending the Soviets, but it's been now declassified that the U.S. actually funded the Muslims, Mujahideen, to attack the Russians first to get them to come into Afghanistan.

01:09:39.000 Zbigniew Brzezinski just published a book last year bragging about that.

01:09:42.000 I mean, your take, basically, on that whole angle of society?

01:09:48.000 I think it's basically all the same thing.

01:09:53.000 It's business.

01:09:54.000 It's why Kennedy got a bullet, because he was getting in the way of business.

01:09:58.000 He didn't want the Vietnam War, and so he had to die.

01:10:03.000 Gulf of Tonkin was our entrance into that conflict, because it's a payday.

01:10:07.000 So was Pearl Harbor.

01:10:09.000 It was our gateway into World War II, a payday. 0.95

01:10:12.000 And that's what we do.

01:10:14.000 That's what this country does.

01:10:15.000 We're the largest seller of arms in the world.

01:10:18.000 And now that the thing in Iraq has the threat of cooling down in 2011, the powers that be are reheating the Cold War so we can just keep fighting somebody.

01:10:30.000 Peace threatens these people.

01:10:33.000 And they have such contempt for the American people that they tell us on the news that Russia snuck attack Georgia when it's the complete opposite.

01:10:41.000 Yeah, well, we need to fight people.

01:10:43.000 And one of the things we do when we induct a country into NATO is we sell a bunch of weapons.

01:10:50.000 The Russians know this.

01:10:51.000 That's why they're angry.

01:10:53.000 Because basically we're going to sell them AR-15s and they're not going to have Kalashnikovs.

01:11:00.000 And so it's never hearts and minds.

01:11:02.000 It's never the threat of communism or the spread of peace.

01:11:05.000 It's business.

01:11:06.000 It's always business.

01:11:07.000 It always has been business.

01:11:09.000 And with this administration, the Bush administration, it's never been so naked and in your face.

01:11:14.000 And the way they make millions of Americans kind of lay down and take it, like I said, you soften them by scaring the hell out of them.

01:11:22.000 And they, a lot of them who don't read, who don't read between the lines, who don't question authority, will submit.

01:11:28.000 Others are, someone like me is a bit more obstreperous and kind of in the way of that.

01:11:35.000 Because I'm going, nah, I don't think so.

01:11:37.000 And George W. Bush has become my travel agent.

01:11:40.000 When he rattles his sabers at a country, I get a visa, I book a ticket, and I go.

01:11:46.000 And last year, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, I went to all those places, had a great time.

01:11:52.000 I was in Pakistan when Benazir Bhutto was assassinated, which was extremely intense. 1.00

01:11:58.000 And again, they think we're idiots. 0.99

01:11:59.000 They machine gun her in front of everyone and then say she bumped her head. 0.99

01:12:03.000 Yeah, well, they just assume that no one has the internet, no one checks YouTube, that no one fax checks their stuff.

01:12:13.000 I mean, what these guys say, it's like they think no one's minding the store.

01:12:17.000 And I see why they think that, because you see CNN and MSNBC and certainly Fox News basically clearing the way for them.

01:12:25.000 Because corporate media also has a bottom line.

01:12:28.000 Money. To do business.

01:12:29.000 And if you get in the way of business, You know, Paul Mullivan and other companies pulled their ads, and Roger Ailes isn't going to have that, Rupert Murdoch isn't going to have that, and even the sissies over at CNN aren't going to have that. 0.81

01:12:42.000 So killing is our business, and business is good, and would you say the U.S. has been the best at doing business?

01:12:49.000 Yeah, we're very good at it.

01:12:51.000 And when there's no war, we'll start one. 1.00

01:12:54.000 We go out of our way to sell you something so you can shoot someone else. 0.96

01:12:58.000 And this has to change.

01:13:00.000 I don't know how much more ordnance needs to be dropped on a country.

01:13:04.000 So, in Laos, there's like three or four pieces of ordnance still unexploded or undiscovered per person in that country.

01:13:13.000 That's no way to live.

01:13:14.000 And we're part of that history.

01:13:17.000 There's no doubt in that.

01:13:18.000 That whole war was started, as you said, with a staged event.

01:13:21.000 Yeah, well, because it's business.

01:13:24.000 And it's what you do with a bunch of humans.

01:13:26.000 You fight, you have them fight each other.

01:13:30.000 You derive money from that, and I think there's ways for everyone to get paid when you don't need the guns.

01:13:37.000 Well, I want to talk about those ways.

01:13:39.000 There's lots of ways where people can all eat and get along, and you don't have to have a war to make your money.

01:13:47.000 Henry Rollins is our guest.

01:13:49.000 Henry, fire out some of the websites people to visit, because we're on in places like Austin, Texas.

01:13:55.000 And places like Buffalo, New York, and St. Louis?

01:13:58.000 Well, I'm easily found at HenryRollins.com.

01:14:03.000 I mean, that's easy to access there.

01:14:06.000 HenryRollins.com, ladies and gentlemen, and you can link through there and find out tour dates.

01:14:12.000 Now, they won't just be hearing music here.

01:14:13.000 You also do spoken word.

01:14:15.000 Yeah, I do a lot of talking shows.

01:14:17.000 I mean, that's the kind of shows I've been doing for quite a while, and all this year I've just been doing speaking dates.

01:14:23.000 uh... all over the world and uh...

01:14:25.000 doing a lot of i shot five documentaries this year and they're going to be coming out uh...

01:14:30.000 some this year some next year and those trips were really eye-opening i shot in burma a few weeks ago shot in thailand south africa uh...

01:14:39.000 lower ninth ward in in new orleans and uh...

01:14:42.000 northernireland and uh...

01:14:43.000 and uh...

01:14:44.000 all those trips were really informative you know when you get out there and that these parts of the world you can uh...

01:14:49.000 you know learn quite a bit you've got one hell of a wanderlust don't you Yeah, I mean the world is interesting to me, and I have the means, I mean I can get out there and go, and so I do it.

01:14:59.000 And that's what informs my opinions, and what I do on stage, what I write, what I photograph.

01:15:06.000 And I read, I mean you read, I mean everyone likes to read books.

01:15:11.000 I'm a fairly voracious reader, but...

01:15:12.000 Well, that's the problem.

01:15:13.000 Everybody actually doesn't, as you know.

01:15:14.000 Well, it's true, but, you know, I think people who listen to your show or you, you know, you want to know, you get back a book open and you read it.

01:15:22.000 Yeah, a lot of Americans don't read, and they don't read enough, and hopefully that changes, but...

01:15:26.000 Not only that, you're saying we read...

01:15:28.000 Well, the point is, I try and read a lot, and never have I had a book have the same impact on me.

01:15:36.000 Like, a book about a country is never as relevant as my trip to that country.

01:15:39.000 And so basically, knowledge without mileage is a bunch of bull to me.

01:15:44.000 It doesn't really matter.

01:15:45.000 No, I agree.

01:15:45.000 You've got to actually go out and verify and see if that perspective you saw in the book was accurate.

01:15:51.000 A lot of times you'll find the book was somewhat accurate, but it was their perspective, their lens.

01:15:55.000 Well, yeah.

01:15:56.000 And so I kind of like the Indiana Jones version of things where you just kind of get in there and, you know, you walk through it and you see what happens.

01:16:03.000 And I do that in Central Asia, the Middle East.

01:16:07.000 Southeast Asia, on my own, every year.

01:16:11.000 So, how many countries do you visit a year on average?

01:16:14.000 It depends.

01:16:15.000 Between five and twenty-some.

01:16:19.000 This year has been, you know, all of Europe.

01:16:23.000 Well, a lot of Europe.

01:16:24.000 Scandinavia, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and then the aforementioned countries.

01:16:30.000 Where do you see our future going in this nation?

01:16:33.000 I see it as an empire.

01:16:34.000 Teetering on the brink of collapse, the dollar devalued, both parties incredibly decadent and delusional, the lies have never been more blatant.

01:16:42.000 I see that as a desperation move.

01:16:44.000 I mean, A, do you agree with that?

01:16:46.000 And B, where do you see the future of this nation?

01:16:48.000 Well, I agree with what you said, but I'm optimistic in that I think America is going to have to hit a very hard bottom line.

01:16:57.000 I mean, we're going to have to fall on our collective butts very hard.

01:17:00.000 And it's like a cocaine addict who might take another million dollars worth of coke for this person to find out that coke is not the answer.

01:17:08.000 And so maybe another million foreclosures.

01:17:11.000 And finally, even Kudlow and company will have to admit that all is not well in America.

01:17:18.000 And so maybe that's what it's going to take.

01:17:20.000 Maybe it's going to take more countries in the world just basically starting embargoes on America.

01:17:26.000 No. You scare us.

01:17:28.000 We don't want to play with you anymore.

01:17:31.000 Maybe it'll take the whole world convening some kind of court and slapping us on the wrist and saying, wake up already.

01:17:40.000 I don't know.

01:17:40.000 But I do think that there's enough positive, progressive people in America who are into things like the reality of global warming and the fact that we can pursue alternative fuel sources, that we don't have to drill ourselves out of every possible energy shortage.

01:17:55.000 And I think that will eventually prevail, because there will be no real way to sustain these fake wars.

01:18:04.000 I mean, the war in Iraq, the invasion and occupation of Iraq, is quite unsustainable.

01:18:09.000 There's just not the money or the manpower.

01:18:10.000 I mean, I don't know where they're going to grow these people.

01:18:12.000 But that shows the delusional aspect in Vietnam, one terror, World War II, one terror. 0.52

01:18:17.000 There's guys starting their fifth terror, and they're completely, you know, 18 times the record suicides previous.

01:18:23.000 Like you said, but...

01:18:25.000 It's not just that it's unsustainable.

01:18:27.000 It seems like the elite have literally...

01:18:29.000 I mean, we had evil elites before, but they were somewhat realist.

01:18:32.000 It seems there's a delusion or a megalomania. 0.99

01:18:35.000 Yeah, well, I think you have a handful of crazy people. 0.70

01:18:40.000 You know, those who used to get laughed at in D.C. Like, you know, the eight neoconservatives from back years ago. 0.70

01:18:46.000 People were like, look at those guys.

01:18:47.000 Look at that guy Wolfowitz. 0.98

01:18:48.000 What a trembling maniac that dude is. 0.93

01:18:51.000 Well, all of those guys got in.

01:18:54.000 And, you know, they waited on the sidelines through a lot of the Bush administration, certainly through the Clinton administration, and they got their game together, like Project for a New American Century and all that.

01:19:05.000 They did not sleep.

01:19:06.000 They planned very well. 0.94

01:19:07.000 Trembling maniac. 0.71

01:19:08.000 I'm stealing that.

01:19:09.000 It's all yours.

01:19:10.000 And as soon as they had their moment, they jumped in, and here we are, with no money.

01:19:16.000 They have nothing but contempt.

01:19:18.000 And our name is destroyed!

01:19:20.000 Our name is destroyed, and Karl Rove tells the New York Times, I control reality, and we're history's actors, and you just watch us.

01:19:27.000 I mean, they really are power men.

01:19:29.000 Yeah, and when they say something is true, all of a sudden they just recreate the world to make it true.

01:19:36.000 And after a while, you forget that you spent all day lying to make that thing true, and all of a sudden you're the man.

01:19:43.000 And I think that's the Kool-Aid these people sip.

01:19:47.000 It's an incredible amount of power.

01:19:49.000 They believe a lie is the truth.

01:19:51.000 Final segment with Henry Rollins.

01:19:52.000 We'll see if he can twist his arm, maybe for 5-10 minutes more, but final segment coming up with Henry Rollins.

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01:23:58.000 Today. Well,

01:24:29.000 My whole issue is that that's kind of the controlled left paradigm.

01:24:33.000 We should have an armed population, and we have a tyrannical government as a check and a balance against them. 0.98

01:24:38.000 So where do you stand on gun control?

01:24:41.000 I think you should have a gun in your house if you want to defend your family.

01:24:44.000 I don't think any family, you or me, needs an assault weapon.

01:24:49.000 If I was a policeman in your town, And I know I'm going up against people with bullets that can go through my door, in through my body and through the body of my partner.

01:25:00.000 And I am not given ceramic plated body armor which stops an AK-47 round.

01:25:04.000 I've got a real problem with that.

01:25:06.000 And I don't think any citizen...

01:25:08.000 What are you going to shoot with a gun?

01:25:10.000 An intruder?

01:25:11.000 Yourself? On a bad day?

01:25:13.000 Or maybe a deer?

01:25:15.000 Right? You're not shooting Al-Qaeda.

01:25:18.000 So you don't need an AK-47.

01:25:20.000 A shotgun?

01:25:22.000 A handgun?

01:25:23.000 Fantastic! An assault weapon?

01:25:25.000 But see, once you let them start restricting, they can restrict it all.

01:25:29.000 And certainly, throughout history, tyrants have sought to disarm their quarry.

01:25:33.000 Yeah, and I just don't think you'd ever be able to disarm America.

01:25:39.000 I just think it can be delicately regulated to where even Charlton Heston's ghost will be satisfied.

01:25:46.000 I just don't think Americans need assault weapons.

01:25:48.000 I don't think you'd ever successfully stop abortion. 0.81

01:25:51.000 Or, you know, take the rifle out of anyone's cold, dead hand.

01:25:55.000 Well, I mean, I see your point there, but, I mean, here's another issue.

01:25:57.000 The sun has no spots on it, it's cooling down, the earth goes up and down in temperature.

01:26:02.000 I have no doubt we need cleaner fuels, that the oil companies are corrupt, but just to then say, well, we need a global tax to stop global warming, you know, I've got a lot of issues with that.

01:26:13.000 No, that's interesting.

01:26:14.000 I mean, when I go on tour now, I pay money To compensate for the global, for the carbon footprint my bus leaves.

01:26:23.000 And, um, so when I take my tour bus out on the road, um, I'm doing damage.

01:26:29.000 And so I compensate for that by, you know, sending money to this outfit my road manager hooked me up with, and we're going to be...

01:26:36.000 Yeah, buying credits.

01:26:37.000 Well, I mean, the central banks have said they want us to buy carbon credits from them, and it's just a global tax, Henry.

01:26:42.000 I'm not saying...

01:26:42.000 I know you want to do good and want to reduce the fuel you're using, and I'm all for that.

01:26:46.000 I just think you're a smart guy.

01:26:48.000 You might...

01:26:48.000 You know what?

01:26:50.000 We're going to go to break when it ends.

01:26:51.000 Let me get an address or a P.O. box from you.

01:26:53.000 I'm going to mail you a film I made called Endgame.

01:26:55.000 And I know you're a smart guy.

01:26:56.000 It has a whole bibliography at whatistheendgame.com.

01:26:59.000 And I want you to fully look into the larger eugenics operation behind that.

01:27:03.000 I mean, are you aware that there is a global elite that does want to carry out worldwide population reduction?

01:27:08.000 Uh, no.

01:27:10.000 Well, you're a smart guy.

01:27:11.000 I bet you've come across some of that Malthusian social Darwin stuff.

01:27:15.000 Well, yeah.

01:27:15.000 I mean, Malthus said that we're all going to die of starvation.

01:27:20.000 And, you know, the Industrial Revolution momentarily proved him to be wrong.

01:27:25.000 And now, as soon as you give more people more food, they breed more.

01:27:28.000 You know, there's a lot going on with food systems in the world, and the unsustainability of soils, and the dangerousness of artificially produced nitrogen, and the fact that we're breeding these animals so hard and so fast that, you know, they're mutating.

01:27:43.000 And uh, you're eating strange meat, and uh, you know, your E. coli is going zoonotic more than, uh...

01:27:49.000 Oh, I agree.

01:27:50.000 I mean, now they make clone beef.

01:27:51.000 It's in the population.

01:27:52.000 We got two minutes left with you.

01:27:54.000 Uh, what happened on the airplane?

01:27:56.000 I mean, you're reading a book, and now reading a book is evil?

01:27:59.000 Oh, yeah.

01:27:59.000 Uh, I was reading, uh, Jihad by Ahmed Rashid, and, uh, the man sitting next to me, uh, called me in to Homeland Security, and I was deemed a person of interest for reading a New York Times bestseller put out by the, uh, Give us a one minute rant on how they're trying to shut

01:28:29.000 down the free web?

01:28:31.000 Well, I think they're trying to regulate web speeds and accessibility.

01:28:36.000 I think the short of it is that the man is afraid of you having access to information lest you start questioning his actions or maybe learning history so you're doomed not to repeat it.

01:28:47.000 And so I think the net is wildly informative and they don't want that.

01:28:51.000 They want you to believe the bumper sticker like boycott France or anything that comes Well, I agree, and I've seen some of the rants you've done where you break down the internet, too, and how they're trying to regulate.

01:29:07.000 I mean, what's the answer?

01:29:08.000 Just expose it?

01:29:09.000 Fight back against it?

01:29:13.000 But, you know, I wonder what can really be done when the hammer comes down on all of that. 0.93

01:29:19.000 I mean, it's damn infuriating. 0.60

01:29:22.000 You know, the beauty of web neutrality is the rich, the poor, you know, the hippie, the gay, everyone has access to information. 0.96

01:29:29.000 Jefferson would have loved this.

01:29:31.000 Absolutely. HenryRollins.com on tour in the U.S. and worldwide.

01:29:35.000 Check it out there for when he's coming to your corner of the woods.

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01:29:39.000 Henry, let me say bye to you here in this break, and that's it for Henry Rollins.

01:29:43.000 We appreciate him joining us.

01:29:45.000 Stay with us.

01:29:45.000 We'll be right back.

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01:30:01.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

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01:33:05.000 This always happens.

01:33:07.000 During the break, I went to Rollins.

01:33:09.000 And he said, oh yeah, I'd love to come back home for a full hour in the near future to set it up.

01:33:13.000 So I set him up in November for a full hour.

01:33:16.000 And I said, yeah, I want to mail you some of my films.

01:33:18.000 Give me your address.

01:33:19.000 He goes, well, there's really no need of that, Alex.

01:33:20.000 I buy your films.

01:33:23.000 He goes, yeah, my favorite's Terror Storm.

01:33:28.000 He goes, yeah, I'd seen the first Terror Storm.

01:33:31.000 Then I got some of your other videos.

01:33:32.000 And then a girlfriend of mine, a friend of mine in Austin gave me the second edition, and I really like that one.

01:33:40.000 But the phone was ringing.

01:33:41.000 He had to go to another radio interview.

01:33:43.000 So next time we get Rollins on, we'll get a plug, an endorsement of my videos from him on air.

01:33:49.000 How many people have we reached?

01:33:52.000 It's all because of you, the listeners.

01:33:54.000 Hey, Aaron, come on in here.

01:33:55.000 You don't know why you're being called in here.

01:33:58.000 Aaron is just incredible.

01:33:59.000 Why don't you pull up a chair here real fast?

01:34:02.000 I've got some audio clips I want to play and a bunch of other stuff.

01:34:04.000 You don't know why I'm dragging you in here.

01:34:06.000 But I want to recognize you specifically as the hardest working person in this office.

01:34:12.000 No, no, no.

01:34:13.000 Not today.

01:34:14.000 All the time.

01:34:15.000 And then there's Rob works hard.

01:34:17.000 Everybody works hard.

01:34:18.000 I mean, Trey works hard.

01:34:19.000 But, you know, down that line, the people at this office particularly, we have two offices.

01:34:23.000 We're about to get rid of this one.

01:34:24.000 But we're building the other studio, the TV studio.

01:34:26.000 I've never seen Paul and Kurt.

01:34:27.000 I'm pretty sure they work pretty hard too.

01:34:28.000 No, no, no.

01:34:29.000 They work really hard on the web.

01:34:30.000 But I know Paul and Kurt and they work hard too.

01:34:32.000 I mean, Kurt just had a bunch of dentistry done and he's still working.

01:34:38.000 But, I mean, you, you were here at 9 a.m. yesterday?

01:34:41.000 Yeah. Well, ten maybe.

01:34:53.000 though. 27 hours later, why don't you tell the listeners why you're so excited?

01:34:57.000 Because I told you to take all week if you needed this.

01:34:59.000 You told me earlier once you started your investigation, You're literally like an old detective on the trail of the bad guys.

01:35:06.000 Tell folks.

01:35:07.000 Well, Denver was so exciting.

01:35:08.000 It's infuriating that we have all these great tapes and they just go stale.

01:35:13.000 So you're like, get them up, get them up, get them up.

01:35:15.000 And all the cool people we met and all the interesting things they said. 0.58

01:35:18.000 And then on top of it, this whole Malkin incident and how they just lie and say that you said things like, kill Michelle Malkin, which is utterly ridiculous, completely untrue.

01:35:27.000 And we proved it now with angle after angle.

01:35:30.000 And Malkin, uh, with her internment camps, I couldn't believe how many...

01:35:34.000 And we've got them touching me first, uh, we've got them elbowing me first, and then I do it back, but that's okay for them to elbow and push me, I just can't do it back, cause I did it harder, I said, don't touch me, okay, that's it, I'm gonna push ya.

01:35:45.000 Uh, you know, you're an elbow, I'm gonna elbow you right back. 0.99

01:35:47.000 But the hoax is still going.

01:35:50.000 I thought we dissipated it.

01:35:51.000 I mean, people are calling stations, calling sponsors.

01:35:54.000 Why did I say murder her?

01:35:55.000 Why did I punch her?

01:35:57.000 Why did I knock her teeth out? 1.00

01:35:58.000 It's kind of like that telephone game where it's that I beat her.

01:36:01.000 I knocked her teeth out. 1.00

01:36:03.000 I mean, it's out there now that I beat this woman up. 1.00

01:36:06.000 I tried to murder her. 0.97

01:36:07.000 See, it's metastasized.

01:36:10.000 We need the listeners to go get this new video that just went up on YouTube.

01:36:14.000 It's titled Kill Michelle Malkin hoax, correct?

01:36:18.000 Yeah, exposed.

01:36:19.000 Okay, and we got Paul and Kurt DePosto on InfoWars and Prison Planet?

01:36:22.000 I think so, yeah.

01:36:23.000 Okay, well this is a very important expose, and I'm going to play it at the end of the show, just the audio today.

01:36:27.000 But, I mean, go over, because you've now spent the last, well, you know, we watched some while we were there, some when we got back.

01:36:33.000 I wasn't thinking I should put these videos up first, and I thought, oh my God, I've got to defend myself from Malkin.

01:36:38.000 It's like I'm under an inquisition or something.

01:36:40.000 So you've been on that the last 27, 26 hours.

01:36:43.000 Tell folks what you found.

01:36:45.000 Uh, well, you know, first of all, it's a crowd situation, so it's always going to be exciting.

01:36:49.000 Everyone's, you know, all up in energy from all sides.

01:36:53.000 The anarchists...

01:36:54.000 Oh, we got attacked at all the other events.

01:36:55.000 Hit and punched.

01:36:56.000 I mean, we were well-behaved compared to other people.

01:36:57.000 I mean, old ladies turn into demons at these events. 1.00

01:37:00.000 But see, the real hoax isn't, you know, who shoved first, or who shouted, kill Michelle Malkin, because we know that.

01:37:06.000 It's a guy in a green shirt.

01:37:07.000 We don't know his name, but we can see him from multiple video angles.

01:37:11.000 The real hoax is that Michelle Malkin is supposed to be this cute little woman, and, you know, she's always preaching not to go off of, you know, diversity and not to judge.

01:37:23.000 You know, based on race and stuff.

01:37:25.000 Well, this crowd is going off the fact she's a woman, yet she's pitching these horrible ideas of internment camp, defending murder of puppies, when nobody cares about dead Iraqi children, dead Iraqi adults.

01:37:38.000 She's saying FEMA camps are good, torture's good, makes jokes about it.

01:37:42.000 And that's not just something you shouted at her in the crowd, as though free speech wasn't your right, as though you're not supposed to confront Horrible, monstrous ideas.

01:37:50.000 But on YouTube, there's just endless clips, hours and hours of her pitching her book, The Case for Internment, and paralleling it with the Japanese internment.

01:38:00.000 And now arresting whole groups of Americans, whole races, whole religions.

01:38:04.000 Criticize the government, go to a camp, and then I'm not supposed to say, I don't like you pushing me to go on a camp when it's clearly a talking point.

01:38:10.000 Alex, didn't you read the book?

01:38:12.000 You don't just profile on religion, you also profile on race.

01:38:15.000 And on nationality.

01:38:16.000 And on their statements.

01:38:17.000 You don't agree with the government, you go to a camp, yeah.

01:38:20.000 How dare I?

01:38:21.000 Imagine the Founding Fathers, if they would have, the Sons of Liberty.

01:38:25.000 They'd have seen somebody running around publishing books about, lock up anyone that criticizes the Crown.

01:38:29.000 Well, that's actually what happened, and they would actually lynch you.

01:38:32.000 Now, we didn't do that.

01:38:33.000 We're not calling for that.

01:38:34.000 But this is how gilded even our own movement is.

01:38:37.000 He yelled it out, oh my God, it's Alex Jones!

01:38:41.000 But they always want to call you Alex Jones Extreme.

01:38:44.000 We have Geraldo Rivera from Fox News, the same network she's on, saying he loved to spit on her, and he's glad he's not in the same city.

01:38:52.000 And by the way, he ended up getting her basically kicked off O'Reilly as the co-host, and then he almost got fired, but he survived that.

01:38:58.000 Yeah, and Rivera, you know, good or bad, he's not the best, but he was doing it for the right reasons.

01:39:03.000 I mean, he recognizes when somebody says, put every Muslim in a camp, it's over. 0.53

01:39:07.000 I commend Rivera for that. 0.99

01:39:09.000 I mean, he's allowed to say she's disgusting. 1.00

01:39:11.000 Yeah. Yeah. 0.95

01:39:13.000 He is disgusting. 1.00

01:39:13.000 They want to attack you. 1.00

01:39:14.000 He said more extreme things, and should have. 0.85

01:39:16.000 Those are horrible ideas.

01:39:18.000 They have to be fought against.

01:39:19.000 Yeah, folks.

01:39:19.000 I mean, let me tell you something.

01:39:21.000 You start saying arrest people and their families.

01:39:23.000 I mean, those are fighting words.

01:39:25.000 Michelle Malcolm's lucky she didn't get more. 0.98

01:39:27.000 But the bottom line is, we have the video.

01:39:29.000 I came up nicely at first, actually.

01:39:31.000 I was, you know, crowds yelling, but I'm like, hey, you should put Americans in camps for their views.

01:39:35.000 You know, you said I lied about that puppy, and his guy comes up and gets right in my face, starts bumping into me.

01:39:40.000 Ted, I'm big.

01:39:41.000 I'm big.

01:39:42.000 And then grabbed our camera and like wrenched the...

01:39:45.000 broke the microphone.

01:39:46.000 Incidentally, he was wearing a National Security Agency lanyard, like it's cute or something.

01:39:52.000 Found videos of Malkin going on tours with the NSA and stuff like that.

01:39:57.000 Well, wait a minute.

01:39:57.000 You know who the main sponsors of those websites are.

01:39:59.000 The top sponsor.

01:40:00.000 It isn't some Google ad, too, where you'll see a McCain ad or a Barack Obama ad.

01:40:04.000 Homeland Security.

01:40:04.000 And then we've got to erase it.

01:40:06.000 Yeah, because when I first saw it on her site a year ago, I looked and said, well, that's not a Google ad.

01:40:10.000 If you click it, it'll tell you if it's a Google ad.

01:40:12.000 She has an actual sponsor, Homeland Security.

01:40:15.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:40:17.000 Because Homeland Security's built camps, and it's part of their program to condition the public to accept going to camps.

01:40:23.000 And she loves, uh, warrantless spying.

01:40:25.000 So, she gets tours of the NSA.

01:40:28.000 Yeah, basically. 0.98

01:40:28.000 I mean, this woman is wicked! 0.98

01:40:31.000 But, oh, I was mean to her. 0.92

01:40:33.000 It's actually a museum for the NSA, but still.

01:40:35.000 Oh, geez, we're in trouble.

01:40:37.000 So, so, so, tell us what we'll see on this video.

01:40:40.000 Well, we did our best to compile all our video angles, as well as some of the YouTube angles, so you could really see what's going on, who's shouting what.

01:40:49.000 You can see Alex comes up.

01:40:50.000 You know, he's challenging her ideas, but he's using an even tone.

01:40:55.000 And I'm about five feet back.

01:40:57.000 I also didn't even get in her space, because I don't get in people's space when I'm arguing with them.

01:41:01.000 Yeah, and you know, the thing about editing is you watch these moments, moment by moment, and the moment she decides to walk away and end the friendly conversations, when you call out Cheney and his terror thing, Cheney's, uh, government-sponsored terror.

01:41:14.000 Yeah, I bring up, it just came out that Cheney wanted to stage terror, and it was like I'd shown a cross to a vampire.

01:41:19.000 I noticed nobody wants to talk about that.

01:41:21.000 Oh, they don't want to talk about that, no.

01:41:22.000 9-11 Truth is, uh, you know, it's cuckoo stuff, but, you know, Cheney having meetings about shooting Uh, Navy SEALs to start a war with Iran.

01:41:32.000 That's, you know, nobody can talk about that.

01:41:35.000 Because that's admitted.

01:41:35.000 That's public.

01:41:36.000 We don't want to talk about the admitted examples.

01:41:38.000 Yeah. Yeah, let's just isolate Cy Hirsch.

01:41:41.000 Never talk about it.

01:41:42.000 Never talk about Olbermann.

01:41:44.000 Let's not talk about that.

01:41:45.000 Oh yeah, I mean, the minute I said it, her face went ashen.

01:41:48.000 Actually, the color went out of it.

01:41:50.000 You can watch it.

01:41:50.000 She puts her chin up, closes her eyes like it was mind control, and turns.

01:41:55.000 That was actually the moment she leaves.

01:41:57.000 That's also the moment that Mr. Pajamas steps up and starts becoming the bodyguard.

01:42:03.000 I found out that they had never met before, but they have, you know, friendly blogs.

01:42:07.000 Yeah, there was a whole constellation, or pilot fish, following the, you know, the main wart.

01:42:14.000 Uh, and then you had some local blogs who were affiliated with the guys dressed up like jesters, who ran up, hey, we're with Alex Jones, and later are yelling F-Alex Jones, and then are friends with Malkin's people.

01:42:25.000 Well, it's a whole canard of, was it a, a thought-out stage conspiracy of six people or nine people?

01:42:32.000 I don't think any of this was planned, it's just that they're disingenuous, won't take free speech.

01:42:36.000 Well, it was her supporters, and they did stand over me, screaming, kill Michelle Malkin. 1.00

01:42:41.000 Sure, yeah.

01:42:41.000 That looked like training to me.

01:42:44.000 Uh, it may well have been, you know, we don't have that proof in the video, but the point is they won't stand up for free speech, they won't defend those ideas.

01:42:50.000 And they're really against me.

01:42:52.000 Yeah. So, so that's the point, is that, is he, first I said kill Michelle Malkin, now I've proven I didn't say it, but now it's, well, prove they're not with you.

01:42:59.000 That's right.

01:43:00.000 Yeah, first it's Alex Jones is your buddy, then it's kill Michelle Malkin, then it's Alex Jones is a corporate stooge, then it's F Alex Jones.

01:43:10.000 I mean, these guys are... 0.65

01:43:11.000 And then as they walked off, they went, F you, we punked you, we got you.

01:43:15.000 Who is this guy in the green shirt?

01:43:16.000 That's the missing...

01:43:17.000 I still don't know.

01:43:19.000 Uh, I was told by some of the other locals that they are allied neocon bloggers.

01:43:24.000 Uh, who are allied with Little Green Footballs, Looking at the Left, Pajamas Media, and...

01:43:30.000 Well, certainly that's true of the photographer.

01:43:32.000 He goes by the name, um... 0.96

01:43:34.000 And he's the guy who sees them say, kill her.

01:43:36.000 He goes to cops and says, Alex Jones is saying... 0.50

01:43:38.000 No, Marco.

01:43:39.000 And he was following us again the next day, looking at TheLeft.com.

01:43:42.000 Yeah, because he has, when we were photographing him running to the police, he has pictures of us running after him, and we were just trying to find out why he's following us and why he's telling lies, trying to set up to the police.

01:43:53.000 We have on tape another 9-11 truther filmed him setting up Alex Jones to the police.

01:43:59.000 Look, they got Homeland Security as their sponsor.

01:44:02.000 They're going for broke.

01:44:04.000 They're on TV saying, put political dissenters in camps.

01:44:07.000 These are hardcore people.

01:44:09.000 They thought they were going to go and make fun of a leftist protest that really stood for nothing.

01:44:14.000 But see, it turns out, the day before, it looks like it's the same green shirt guys, but in different shirts, starting the F.U. Fox they put on TV, and then Malcolm reported she'd been attacked before, and then they screamed, kill, kill. 0.97

01:44:25.000 So it looks like, whether she knows it, she's got protectors that go around with her screaming, kill, kill, so they can then say that in the media.

01:44:33.000 Yeah, just, um...

01:44:34.000 Stage provocations as a way of life, basically.

01:44:37.000 And these guys are wearing disguises.

01:44:38.000 Big sunglasses, hats.

01:44:40.000 Well, they're meant to look like court gestures to marginalize whoever Michelle Malkin is against that hour.

01:44:46.000 Yeah. Just in case you challenge anything she's ever said.

01:44:50.000 This is a black op, ladies and gentlemen.

01:44:52.000 They're directly sponsored by Homeland Security.

01:44:54.000 And I just want to say, shame on you, Homeland Security.

01:44:57.000 You've been further discredited.

01:44:58.000 CENTCOM, you've been further discredited.

01:45:00.000 I'm not kidding.

01:45:01.000 We need to get screenshots of the fact that they're sponsored by Homeland Security.

01:45:03.000 Have you seen that?

01:45:04.000 Yeah, I have seen that.

01:45:05.000 I mean, officially!

01:45:06.000 Yeah. I mean, they're not...

01:45:08.000 This is U.S. government going up against me, framing me for saying, kill a woman and beating her. 0.99

01:45:15.000 It's outrageous. 0.68

01:45:16.000 God, I wish I would have known they were setting me up at the time. 0.89

01:45:18.000 I could have really burned them.

01:45:19.000 Doesn't matter, we're still winning.

01:45:20.000 It's about a 60-40 split right now, but it's up to you, ladies and gentlemen.

01:45:24.000 Will you get the video and send it to every neocon? 0.66

01:45:29.000 By the way, when people start calling WBAP about this Mark Davis, he is still going on air saying, I edited video and then I did say killer.

01:45:36.000 And folks, I do not want to spend your money shooing them.

01:45:38.000 I want to make new TV shows, radio shows, get big guests for you, break news.

01:45:45.000 I mean, it's easy to sound tough and say, I'll sue, I'll sue.

01:45:47.000 I mean, I've sued people four times and won every time.

01:45:50.000 I don't enjoy it.

01:45:51.000 It's not fun.

01:45:53.000 I mean, Martin Davis, my wife, sent him an email saying, please retract.

01:45:55.000 My husband didn't say that. 1.00

01:45:56.000 He's like, you dumb woman. 1.00

01:45:58.000 Your husband's a piece of trash. 1.00

01:46:00.000 You deserve it better than you. 1.00

01:46:01.000 We ought to publish that. 0.99

01:46:03.000 I mean, this is just trashy, evil people, folks, and they're so used to an audience they can lie to and deceive and just get away with all of it. 1.00

01:46:10.000 They lay revel in how stupid the general public is. 1.00

01:46:14.000 Aaron? It's really arrogant because we have them on video, these guys in the green shirt, and his buddy saying, kill Michelle Malkin, while you're trying to have a conversation with Malkin about her internment camps. 1.00

01:46:26.000 It's just...

01:46:27.000 It's outrageous.

01:46:28.000 Now, you've done a masterful job.

01:46:30.000 These are not just our cameras.

01:46:31.000 These are other people's YouTube cameras.

01:46:33.000 I mean, we are showing you.

01:46:35.000 In the next few days, if you get some rest, we'll do a part two.

01:46:37.000 There's so much, you couldn't put it all in ten minutes.

01:46:39.000 We want to keep it down to one bite of ten minutes.

01:46:42.000 But there's a bunch of stuff going up for members.

01:46:44.000 The Tom Morello interview, the interview with Jerome Corsi.

01:46:49.000 Really powerful stuff at the DNC.

01:46:51.000 Cindy Sheehan.

01:46:53.000 Uh, a bunch of other exclusives for PrisonPlanet.tv members.

01:46:57.000 Don't forget the new film, Fabled Enemies, is out.

01:47:00.000 And I've noticed, since we crossed this line with Fabled Enemies, to really criticize the intelligence agencies that were involved, I'm noticing the heat is just, it's like somebody flipped a switch.

01:47:10.000 Well, all these bloggers seem to work for the same people as well.

01:47:14.000 Yeah, well, it's, it's, it's not gonna work, folks.

01:47:16.000 Every time we get attacked, we only get bigger.

01:47:19.000 And I trust in God.

01:47:20.000 I do believe in the Creator.

01:47:22.000 I do believe in that, you know, energy, spirit of the universe, whatever you want to call it, good versus evil.

01:47:27.000 And the good, you know, the force of creation, God is a lot better than the evil force, a lot bigger and a lot more powerful.

01:47:36.000 And we just put it all in God's hands.

01:47:38.000 But we have gotten death threats. 0.99

01:47:40.000 You know, how dare you threaten to kill that woman? 1.00

01:47:42.000 I'm going to kill you. 1.00

01:47:43.000 This is the type of self-righteous stuff. 1.00

01:47:45.000 They like to feed the mentally ill stalker types. 1.00

01:47:48.000 Yeah, but see about the Malkin thing, I think people are going after the wrong argument.

01:47:52.000 They're arguing over, did you yell fire in a theater, or were you too loud at the wrong moment?

01:47:56.000 The point is, they're coming after you when you were challenging her on the internment camps, and she has nothing to say about it.

01:48:04.000 It's never about internment camps, it's never about lying and saying, I lied about the puppy.

01:48:08.000 And every video online, even Chris Matthews, it's, did you read my book?

01:48:12.000 How about, what are these ideas you're pitching?

01:48:14.000 How dare you?

01:48:16.000 Yeah, well, and then we did read her book.

01:48:18.000 I mean, she came out with it, like, three years ago.

01:48:20.000 They sent me a copy that we called their publicist, and I actually read the thing and read quotes on her.

01:48:23.000 We had a big guy interview on it.

01:48:24.000 Well, those people who went up to her at C-SPAN, you know, the TV channel, and said, how dare you write this?

01:48:30.000 And she said, you didn't read my book.

01:48:32.000 I'm not going to say anything to you.

01:48:34.000 Now, that's a condescending...

01:48:35.000 Like, if you read it, you would be for putting people without trials in prison camps.

01:48:39.000 I mean, maybe she has an asterisk in there, but I mean, it's all on the cover there.

01:48:44.000 Well, actually, I probably read a hundred pages.

01:48:47.000 I didn't read the whole thing.

01:48:48.000 It was so horrible, I couldn't read it anymore.

01:48:50.000 It was how wonderful it is to put all the Japanese in the camps, how it kept them safe, and how they loved it.

01:48:54.000 And how it relates to Post 9-11.

01:48:56.000 And how the Japanese thanked them for putting them in camps. 1.00

01:48:58.000 They're having their land and their fishing boats stolen.

01:49:01.000 And no, they don't.

01:49:01.000 I've talked to them.

01:49:02.000 It's just, it's total bull.

01:49:04.000 It's not an intellectual graduate paper.

01:49:07.000 It's a criminal hoax on the people.

01:49:10.000 Well, the video, for those out there, it is Kill Michelle Malkin Hoax Exposed.

01:49:16.000 I need your help getting this video out to everyone because this is definitive.

01:49:21.000 This goes through all of it.

01:49:22.000 This shows you what's happening.

01:49:23.000 It details it.

01:49:25.000 It's up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.

01:49:30.000 But the good news is Liberal, conservative, libertarian, every bigwig I talk to, former German defense ministers, former Italian presidents, members of the Japanese government, Hollywood people, it doesn't matter who it is I run into, Rage Against the Machine, you know, mainline neighbors down the street, people at church, they all know the government's criminal and out of control, and the lies and frauds you've been selling aren't working anymore.

01:49:59.000 By the way, this video also gets into her past statements.

01:50:04.000 She's always saying, did you read my book?

01:50:05.000 Did you read my book?

01:50:05.000 We have her verbally saying what she believes.

01:50:08.000 Yeah, on Fox, on C-SPAN, on CNN.

01:50:12.000 There's a few others too, I think.

01:50:14.000 Just over and over.

01:50:15.000 Same thing.

01:50:16.000 Over and over.

01:50:17.000 The case for internment.

01:50:19.000 Let's have internment. 0.94

01:50:20.000 I mean, I normally don't judge a book by its cover, but didn't she just seem troll-like and demon-like and hateful? 1.00

01:50:26.000 I mean, she was a really disgusting person. 1.00

01:50:28.000 She had a certain look on her face, if you will. 0.99

01:50:31.000 And I mean, she thought that arrogant hate of us and dismissing us, that we would just grovel and quail like shrinking violets, you know, at her not liking us. 0.94

01:50:40.000 Say, we don't care, witch. 0.98

01:50:41.000 We don't care what you and your punk Homeland Security employees do. 1.00

01:50:45.000 We're gonna expose you. 0.99

01:50:46.000 We're gonna discredit you. 1.00

01:50:48.000 Because you need to be exposed and discredited for the monster pig you are. 1.00

01:50:52.000 That video's up there. 1.00

01:50:53.000 I want all of you to get it and ram it down everybody's throats.

01:50:56.000 Help us get it out before it wins.

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01:54:02.000 Guess what?

01:54:03.000 Jerry Reid died yesterday.

01:54:06.000 I was just informed of that.

01:54:07.000 He's bound it down, loaded up and trucking.

01:54:12.000 Are we going to do what they say can't be done?

01:54:15.000 We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there.

01:54:20.000 Yeah, he just died yesterday.

01:54:25.000 He brought on the pillow.

01:54:25.000 Some never mind him break.

01:54:27.000 Let it all hang out, cause we got a run to make.

01:54:30.000 The boys are thirsty in Atlanta.

01:54:33.000 And there's beer in Texarkana.

01:54:35.000 And we'll bring it back no matter what it takes.

01:54:39.000 He's found a dime.

01:54:42.000 Loaded up and trucking.

01:54:43.000 Are we going to do what they say can't be done?

01:54:46.000 We've got a long way to go.

01:54:49.000 Any short time to get there.

01:54:51.000 I'm eastbound just watch your band to run.

01:54:54.000 Yeah, hard to believe he just died yesterday.

01:54:59.000 That's kind of our theme song.

01:55:04.000 I was just informed of this by Richard Reeves who's been driving us on some of our trips, doing a great job, our navigator and driver.

01:55:12.000 He is up in Minnesota with George Butler and they have been, they're reporting on it for Genesis.

01:55:20.000 And so they can basically tell us what is going on there.

01:55:23.000 But I want to finish the song out.

01:55:25.000 Jerry Reed just died.

01:55:26.000 I want to play that.

01:55:28.000 The end of the song about old Smokey's got his ears on and he's hot on your trail and he ain't gonna rest till you're in jail.

01:55:35.000 You got to dodge him.

01:55:36.000 You got to duck him.

01:55:37.000 You got to keep that diesel trucking. 0.99

01:55:40.000 Just drop that hammer down and give the hell. 1.00

01:55:43.000 Yeah. You're only alive once, ladies and gentlemen. 1.00

01:55:49.000 So don't slow down.

01:55:53.000 We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there.

01:56:01.000 The best part of the song.

01:56:04.000 So you got to duck it, you got to dodge it, you got to keep that diesel truckin'. 0.99

01:56:17.000 All right, c'est la vie, bon voyage, au revoir.

01:56:25.000 There, Jerry Reed.

01:56:26.000 And it's short time to get there.

01:56:30.000 Torturing the listeners with my singing.

01:56:35.000 Let's go back now.

01:56:38.000 Let's go to George Butler and Richard Reeves.

01:56:41.000 They're in the Genesis Crows announced up in Minneapolis, St. Paul, in Burnsville to be precise.

01:56:47.000 Hey guys, give us a quick synopsis of what you've seen.

01:56:50.000 Okay, Alex, last night on September 7th, Rally for the Republic was held in the center in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and it was called the Target Center.

01:57:03.000 There were 15,000 people there, and it was crazy, and Ron Paul gave an inspirational speech.

01:57:10.000 That's right, Alex.

01:57:10.000 I'll tell you, it was a really exciting event.

01:57:12.000 I wish you could have been here.

01:57:14.000 I'll tell you what was inspirational, Richard, was The fact that Jesse Ventura wouldn't shut up and talk about 9-11.

01:57:22.000 You know, I made a comment right after his speech that Don Weed earlier gave a very fine speech, but the most powerful moving speech was given by Jesse Ventura.

01:57:33.000 That's right, because we all know that 80% of people there are 9-11 truthers anyway, so why should we be muzzled, huh?

01:57:40.000 Richard? Well, we weren't muzzled.

01:57:42.000 We absolutely weren't, and 9-11 Truth is highly represented here at the Rally for the Republic.

01:57:47.000 So there's no shortage of 9-11 truthers. 0.96

01:57:49.000 There's no shortage of people wanting liberty and to uphold the Constitution.

01:57:55.000 So it's really been a great time here so far.

01:57:58.000 We've really gotten a lot of people fired up and we've brought in a lot of neocons and woken them up and it keeps growing every day.

01:58:05.000 Our movement just keeps growing every day.

01:58:06.000 And C-SPAN's been carrying it all live on C-SPAN 2. That's a big victory right there.

01:58:12.000 All of this is about growing the Movement of Liberty, waking people up, and I'm just so glad that Ron Paul was able to make it with Carol in such dire straits.

01:58:19.000 We're going to come back in about 60 seconds for five more minutes with Richard Reeves and George Butler.

01:58:24.000 They're there co-hosting live radio shows, four Genesis and live feeds there, and doing a fabulous job.

01:58:30.000 So we'll talk to them when we get back for five more minutes.

01:58:34.000 Then I've got an expert joining us from Germany about the situation between the United States and Russia.

01:58:43.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

01:58:45.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

01:58:51.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

01:58:58.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

01:59:00.000 But who is the enemy?

01:59:02.000 Bin Laden.

01:59:03.000 This is his M.O. We have to look to the Middle East.

01:59:05.000 We have to look to Osama Bin Laden. 0.93

01:59:07.000 Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.

01:59:14.000 Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.

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02:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

02:00:10.000 You want answers?

02:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

02:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:21.000 We are talking to Richard Reeves, who has gone to Bilderberg with us, and I've known him for about 10 years, I guess about 8, 9 years.

02:00:41.000 He also drove us in the RV and did a great job with the live video feeds.

02:00:47.000 He was the camera guy there, getting attacked quite a few times.

02:00:50.000 And, of course, George Butler, who's been a guest on the show and a talk show host here on Genesis as well, grew up there covering it live.

02:00:58.000 Hey, Richard, just a side issue.

02:01:00.000 The new Michelle Malkin video, our piece on her trying to set us up is out.

02:01:10.000 I mean, these are hyped up events, aren't they?

02:01:13.000 Oh, absolutely, and the Michelle Malkin thing was a setup, and I haven't seen this new video clip you're talking about, but I'm sure it really illustrates exactly how the setup occurred.

02:01:22.000 And speaking of being attacked, I was attacked on Monday by the anarchists up here.

02:01:26.000 I was trying to give Terry, one of our cameraman friends from Austin, our location, and they heard me giving the address, and all of a sudden they thought I was a cop, and so they started to attack me, and I thought for a minute, wow, a repeat of Denver, only worse.

02:01:39.000 Well, so the anarchists, again, attacking you.

02:01:42.000 They attacked us in Denver.

02:01:43.000 They'll actually attack you, push you, slap you, punch you, attack your camera while they say they're not violent.

02:01:49.000 And they are the ones allowing the police state to grow.

02:01:53.000 In fact, they are worse than the police. 0.98

02:01:54.000 It is disgusting. 0.93

02:01:56.000 So they thought you were a cop and attacked you. 0.96

02:01:59.000 That's correct.

02:02:00.000 That's correct.

02:02:00.000 Yeah, folks, there's no call to just come out and start attacking police.

02:02:04.000 Then they attack the general public. 0.84

02:02:05.000 I'm so sick of these anarchists.

02:02:08.000 Well, it was definitely a tense moment there because they, you know, they'd singled me out there for a little bit and I was right there in the midst of them.

02:02:14.000 They told me I better leave, so I just started backing out and I got out of there and later on I got back in and got some more photographs.

02:02:20.000 See, I'm glad I didn't go because I'm tired of backing off.

02:02:22.000 I'd have just beat the hell out of them.

02:02:24.000 Well, I just can't handle it anymore.

02:02:25.000 I'm really in the mood to just literally start knocking some teeth out.

02:02:28.000 It was about 200 to 1, Alex, but if you'd have been with me, we'd have done it.

02:02:32.000 You know, actually, we'd have had more power with 200 against us.

02:02:34.000 You know, that's when you really get going, Richard.

02:02:36.000 Well, there you go.

02:02:37.000 Hey, we're completely surrounded.

02:02:38.000 Good. Don't let any of them escape.

02:02:40.000 There you go, exactly.

02:02:40.000 You know, Alex, what you've been saying for years, I just went, I just came out of the Xcel Energy Center, which is the GOP, you know, convention center, and it's surrounded by all kinds of barriers and fences, and there were more police and security than there were people this morning when I was there.

02:02:55.000 Yeah, it's just pathetic. 0.86

02:02:56.000 The whole thing's a joke. 0.89

02:02:57.000 Well, listen, I would like to get you guys on tomorrow in studio to give us a real report on what's happened.

02:03:03.000 I got a big guest coming up after the break, or if you guys want to hang around, For 30-40 minutes while this guest is on, I'd like to get a real report from you guys about what you've seen and hear more, but anything else, George?

02:03:14.000 Well, we're going to be covering the GOP now in St. Paul, and like I said, I went in there this morning and looked at the center and everything else, the Xcel Energy Center, and we intend to set up maybe in a park there this evening sometime and maybe do a live broadcast, but we don't have any plan for sure.

02:03:32.000 Well, Alex, let's set up with your show for tomorrow because we didn't know we were going to be invited to be on the show with you.

02:03:38.000 Ted just kind of put us in here and threw us on the air with you.

02:03:41.000 That's what Ted does. 0.82

02:03:42.000 He's bringing giant crowds of hoodlums through the office.

02:03:47.000 No, but you guys are great. 0.93

02:03:49.000 You're getting a tour of the broom closet, I'm told.

02:03:51.000 We're getting a full tour, that's right.

02:03:52.000 You know, Alex, you've always said about this police state, but this is the first convention I've been to with as much military and police.

02:04:00.000 I mean, secret service cleared me through the southwest gate, you know.

02:04:04.000 But then you had to go through more of the government.

02:04:06.000 Then I went through another airport deal through all the scanning and all that later on.

02:04:11.000 There were several different layers of security here.

02:04:13.000 It was terrible.

02:04:14.000 Well, you've got to protect those low-level minions that they call presidential candidates who run absolutely nothing. 0.99

02:04:21.000 All right, guys.

02:04:22.000 Well, we appreciate you popping in.

02:04:23.000 And, yeah, you guys come in tomorrow.

02:04:29.000 Thanks for joining us.

02:04:31.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:04:32.000 Keep up the good work, Alex.

02:04:33.000 You bet.

02:04:34.000 But you guys agree, you guys agree that the best speech was from Jesse Ventura?

02:04:38.000 Yes, sir.

02:04:39.000 It was the most powerful, inspirational, and he nailed 9-11.

02:04:43.000 And I did hear that a few Ron Paulies kind of clutched their throats and hearts.

02:04:47.000 Is that true?

02:04:48.000 Alex, without your leadership, there wouldn't have been the crowd reaction that he got.

02:04:54.000 So he got a good reaction, didn't he?

02:04:56.000 He got a very good reaction because you're the leadership in this 9-11 truth movie.

02:05:00.000 You guys are awesome.

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02:08:02.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:08:09.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:08:15.000 William F. Engel is our guest.

02:08:17.000 He joins us from Germany.

02:08:20.000 He's an economist and writer and author of the best-selling book on oil and geopolitics, A Century of War, Anglo-American Oil Politics, and The New World Order, which has been translated into French, Arabic, Koran, German, Croatian, Turkish.

02:08:34.000 He completed Seeds of Destruction, The Hidden Agenda of the GMO.

02:08:39.000 So I want to get him to talk about that.

02:08:40.000 He's with us for the rest of the hour.

02:08:42.000 He also has exposed peak oil.

02:08:44.000 He has written on several political and issues like the economy, geopolitical, energy, agriculture, World Trade Organization, and he contributes regularly to a number of publications, including the Asia Times, Asia Inc., Japan's major publications.

02:09:02.000 His bio just goes on and on, and we'll give you some of his websites and places you can check out what he is talking about.

02:09:10.000 So it's really great to have you on with us, sir.

02:09:15.000 Again, he has a degree in politics from Princeton University, graduate study in comparative economics, University of Stockholm.

02:09:22.000 He worked as an economist for the Free Lance, journalist for the New York and Europe, and it just goes on and on.

02:09:29.000 He also covered subjects like the collapse of the USSR in 97-98 for Well, Russia Today talk about how close this was coming to nuclear war, something that some top Air Force generals and others have concurred and said.

02:09:56.000 So I wanted to get him on.

02:09:58.000 We're really honored to have you, sir.

02:10:00.000 I appreciate you having me, Alex.

02:10:02.000 You bet.

02:10:03.000 Now, I kind of babbled through your bio because it's so lengthy.

02:10:06.000 Tell us a little bit about yourself, what's most important to know, and then break down what's currently happening from a historical and economic perspective and bringing us up to the current escalation with Russia.

02:10:18.000 Okay. Well, I'll try to do it succinctly here.

02:10:22.000 Basically, I've spent the last 35 years or so since the early 70s when the The first oil shocks hit, and then we had a simultaneous food crisis.

02:10:35.000 I've worked as an economist and a researcher and as a freelance journalist in New York at that time, and then over here in Europe, and have been following these events.

02:10:48.000 And what struck me again and again and again were the parallels that kept repeating themselves.

02:10:54.000 And as I dug deeper, I began to Understand more about the networks of power that operate in our world today.

02:11:02.000 And it goes back to a term that many people use and very few people really understand the meaning of it.

02:11:10.000 It's called geopolitics.

02:11:12.000 And the term was invented, actually, by a British geographer.

02:11:19.000 Not a geopolitician, but a geographer named Sir Alfred Mackinder in 1904.

02:11:24.000 And he laid out a speech To the Royal Geographic Society called the Geographical Pivot of History.

02:11:30.000 Now, this may sound like an off-the-track remark, but I'll bring it right back to what's going on today in Georgia and the Central Asia and the Caucasus.

02:11:40.000 In that speech, he said, there are land powers and there are sea powers.

02:11:45.000 England is a sea power if we control the crucial choke points of the world's oceans.

02:11:50.000 That will control our empire.

02:11:52.000 And we have to make sure That there is no land power that can challenge our hegemony.

02:11:59.000 The only land power that could do that is Eurasia.

02:12:02.000 Now, by Eurasia, he meant everything from Western Europe through Russia and on to China and India.

02:12:10.000 And he said if a country controls Central Europe, by which he meant basically Germany, France, Poland, and so forth, If Central Europe, who controls Central Europe, is able to control what he called the Heartland.

02:12:27.000 Now, the Heartland for Mackinder was essentially Russia, Russia and Ukraine, which is really historically, intimately tied to the history of Russia, culturally.

02:12:37.000 And if you control the Heartland, Russia, then that power is able to control what he called the World Island, which meant all of Eurasia, including China and India. 0.87

02:12:50.000 Including also the Middle East, although that was really a little bit before the extent of the oil reserves in the Middle East were known.

02:12:58.000 And if you control the world island, you control the whole world.

02:13:03.000 Now, Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, all of the post-war American foreign policy strategists, Brzezinski, who's the prime foreign policy advisor of Mr. Obama today, They are schooled in the tradition of Sir Alfred Mackinder.

02:13:19.000 American post-war politics has been based on this geopolitics.

02:13:23.000 Drop an iron curtain across Europe, separating Western Europe from Russia, the Soviet Union at that time.

02:13:31.000 Churchill encouraged that.

02:13:32.000 He was a student of Mackinder, and he did everything to incite Stalin's paranoia beginning in 1943 back in Trieste. 0.52

02:13:43.000 Which was then a disputed zone between Yugoslavia and Italy, and tried all sorts of provocations.

02:13:52.000 The first Cold War was actually between Britain and the Soviet Union, which very few people really are aware of.

02:14:00.000 That's the first speech by Churchill, and Anne Catherine has descended... 0.81

02:14:06.000 Across Europe, yeah.

02:14:07.000 And that speech was delivered in Fulton, Missouri.

02:14:11.000 Churchill was a Brilliant master of political manipulation.

02:14:16.000 He once said that the truth in times of war is too important.

02:14:19.000 It has to be surrounded by a bodyguard of lies.

02:14:22.000 Well, he was pretty good at that bodyguard business.

02:14:24.000 And he played a game of poker with Harry S. Truman down there in Fulton, Truman's home state, and graciously lost to Truman.

02:14:33.000 So Truman was feeling pretty perky up against this great war hero, Churchill.

02:14:39.000 And the U.S. More and more got drawn into this idea of creating this Cold War boogeyman image of communists under every bed, and hiding in the State Department, and who knows what.

02:14:53.000 And this Iron Curtain essentially kept Western Europe and Russia separated for the good part of 50 years.

02:15:02.000 And Stalin used the posturing to help build up his whole apparatus of control as well.

02:15:07.000 Well, of course, yeah.

02:15:08.000 Then you had the world simply divided, and at that time China was very much integrally tied to Stalin's Soviet Union until the 60s.

02:15:23.000 So you had a whole section of the world that was separated off, but that state of permanent tension, that national security state, I'm just Completing and preparing for publication a new book called Full Spectrum.

02:15:43.000 I mean, you're really into all the very same subjects I'm into, and a much greater scholar.

02:15:48.000 And of course, who wouldn't be into wanting to know what the shadow government's doing, the COG's doing?

02:15:52.000 So let's spend some time in this hour getting into the new book.

02:15:56.000 I know it's about to come out.

02:15:57.000 There's so many things I want to talk to you about.

02:16:00.000 You've also written about confessions of an ex-peak oil believer.

02:16:04.000 How you got suckered into that, but there's a lot of sophisticated propaganda there.

02:16:08.000 But yeah, let's now telescope it down to what's currently happening.

02:16:12.000 Okay. Let me take your time, take your time.

02:16:15.000 Okay, what we've had since the end of the collapse of the Soviet Union, Gorbachev threw in the towel, raised up the white flag of surrender and said, okay, our system has failed miserably.

02:16:30.000 Yours has been a brilliant success in the West, and we can't compete with you anymore in the arms race, in the missile defense, the Star Wars, in Afghanistan, one thing after the other.

02:16:45.000 So we want to peaceably reorganize our society and come into the Western market system.

02:16:53.000 And part of the negotiation was that James Baker III, was the secretary of state under father bush at that time

02:17:21.000 East Germany and West Germany, would be allowed to continue to be a member of NATO and not be neutral, like Finland or Sweden or Switzerland, Then the United States would not extend the borders of NATO eastward into the former Poland and the former countries of the Warsaw Pact.

02:17:41.000 Well, beginning 1991, the U.S. began negotiating and propagandizing and enticing the former Warsaw Pact countries around Russia.

02:17:55.000 To join NATO, one after the other.

02:17:57.000 And then a few of them that wouldn't join, like Ukraine and Georgia, well, the State Department and the U.S. Intelligence Services, they organize what they call color, what's called in the East, color revolutions.

02:18:10.000 And you had in, the first one was in Serbia against Milosevic.

02:18:14.000 The State Department, the National Endowment for Democracy, which is a, was the president of it, said one time, we do what the CIA used to do, only as an NGO.

02:18:26.000 They use U.S. taxpayer monies to upset regimes that are not playing on the same sheet of music as the Washington administration in any given situation.

02:18:40.000 So, Georgia, the Republic of Georgia, which is a very, very sensitive, tiny little country right on the border of Russia in the southern part of the Caucasus, And Ukraine, which really goes back a hundred centuries, back into the old days of Kiev Rus, culturally and so forth, it's indistinguishable from Russia.

02:19:03.000 And, of course, all the natural gas pipelines to Western Europe that are so vital for the Russian economy, most of them flow through Ukraine.

02:19:12.000 So, the Color Revolution put Mikhail Saakashvili, educated at Columbia University Law School in New York, Groomed and trained by the U.S. State Department.

02:19:24.000 And he was brought in as a 37-year-old to come in and be President of Georgia on the promise that he would bring Georgia into NATO.

02:19:34.000 And the same thing with Yushchenko, who just underwent some problems with his government in Ukraine today.

02:19:42.000 Victor Yushchenko...

02:19:44.000 We're gonna break.

02:19:44.000 Stop right there, sir.

02:19:46.000 We're talking to William Engel.

02:19:49.000 Amazing researcher and journalist, academic from the United States.

02:19:54.000 He's over in Germany right now and he's our guest for the rest of the hour.

02:19:58.000 Please stay with us.

02:19:59.000 We'll be right back.

02:20:01.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

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02:20:13.000 This is his MO.

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02:20:15.000 We have to look to Osama Bin Laden. 0.93

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02:20:35.000 Bin Laden's connections to the CIA.

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02:24:05.000 This show is documented.

02:24:06.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:24:10.000 William Ingall is our guest.

02:24:14.000 William, before we go any further, fire out a list of your books, whether...

02:24:18.000 website people should visit or people want to learn more about your research sure uh...

02:24:23.000 the first one is called a century war angle american oil politics The second one is called Seeds of Destruction, the Hidden Agenda of Genetic Manipulation.

02:24:34.000 That's available at www.globalresearch.ca.

02:24:39.000 The third one is just in final preparation, type setting, and so forth.

02:24:45.000 It's due to be out, I would say, end of September, early October, and that people can go onto my website.

02:24:51.000 The title of that, and that goes into the background, the little-known background of this whole military drive of the Pentagon, Since the end of the Cold War, to simply literally place military bases in every corner of the world.

02:25:06.000 Well, General Curtis LeMay wanted to nuke everybody.

02:25:09.000 Yeah. It's called Full Spectrum Dominance, Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order.

02:25:15.000 Okay, well, we're going to cover that.

02:25:17.000 That's a pretty provocative title.

02:25:18.000 Yeah, well, it's the truth.

02:25:19.000 I can't think of a better term, a better name.

02:25:21.000 Let's finish up with what just happened in Russia, and then we're going to get into all that.

02:25:25.000 Okay, the website that people can go to for more information on all of this is www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net Or just Google my name and you'll come to it eventually.

02:25:44.000 So, go ahead.

02:25:45.000 I'm sorry.

02:25:46.000 No, no, no.

02:25:46.000 That's great.

02:25:47.000 I was asking you to plug.

02:25:48.000 Now, this is a short segment.

02:25:51.000 So you brought us up to the color revolutions, putting these puppets in, giving them weapons, giving them arms.

02:25:58.000 The evidence is pretty clear now, but you're closer to the conflict than I am, that the U.S. basically gave the order to Well, I think if the U.S. didn't verbally give the order,

02:26:28.000 and I have no court proof that they verbally gave the order, they gave every encouragement and every indication to Saakashvili in Georgia that if he marched into South Ossetia, South Ossetia and Abkhazia, the two breakaway provinces, they fought a bloody, bloody war with Georgia.

02:26:49.000 These are tribal differences.

02:26:50.000 Most Americans don't understand this.

02:26:53.000 These are tribes.

02:26:54.000 These are tribes that have blood feuds going back centuries.

02:26:58.000 and the south of the oceans have no Love it all for the Georgians and vice versa.

02:27:03.000 And the Georgians would like to create ethnic genocide and just clear them out and take them over for themselves. 0.99

02:27:09.000 Well, they did that in 1991.

02:27:11.000 Yeah, 91 through 94. There were bloody, bloody wars.

02:27:14.000 So the Ossetians are extremely disinclined. 1.00

02:27:20.000 And now Shostakovich has said that he's planning to launch another sneak attack.

02:27:24.000 And then meanwhile, our controlled media tells us that Russia snuck attack Georgia.

02:27:29.000 Yeah. Yeah, well, it's uncanny.

02:27:31.000 Over here in Europe, the media coverage is a little bit more honest, although there's heavy pressure from the State Department to tilt the news of the European governments.

02:27:43.000 But how do you tilt the news that Georgia launched sneak attacks on two Russian ethnic provinces?

02:27:50.000 Yeah, well, they just omitted that fact in CNN.

02:27:55.000 I was totally astonished when I watched it.

02:27:59.000 There you go.

02:28:00.000 Isn't there a danger in dumbing the propaganda down to such a level?

02:28:05.000 Well, I think so.

02:28:06.000 At a certain point, you run into what's called the Grievous Principle.

02:28:11.000 A general in the Greek Civil War, General Grievous said that if you do covert operations at a certain point and scale them up beyond a certain point, they become so obvious that they lose their effect and they backfire on you.

02:28:27.000 I think there's a very real risk of this, but...

02:28:30.000 Well, here's an example.

02:28:31.000 They have Michelle Malkin openly funded by Homeland Security.

02:28:34.000 They don't even hide it, making hoaxes up about me, and that's backfiring on them.

02:28:39.000 I mean, they're just getting so obvious.

02:28:42.000 Okay. But why are they so obvious?

02:28:45.000 Well, I think the point is, this is a giant on a feet of clay, and this is...

02:28:51.000 The elites The Council on Foreign Relations, really, back in the 1930s, in the end of the 30s, with the Rockefeller Foundation money, decided to map out the future American empire at the end of the coming war.

02:29:06.000 This was before the German panzers rolled into Poland, keep in mind.

02:29:11.000 And they were already planning how America would run the world after the war.

02:29:14.000 Yeah, Lord Milner.

02:29:17.000 And what they said is, look, the British Have a bad model, because everybody is anti-imperial, anti-colonial, and so forth.

02:29:25.000 So we'll manipulate that sentiment, and we'll say, we're the purveyors of democracy and freedom and the American way of life.

02:29:33.000 And we're spreading the free enterprise system.

02:29:36.000 And we'll talk about this, and we'll never call ourselves an empire.

02:29:39.000 But de facto, it was one of the most ruthless empires in the world history.

02:29:44.000 Okay, he's an amazing individual.

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02:33:00.000 Journalist, academic, author, researcher.

02:33:08.000 I've got to get him up for like two, three hours at a time.

02:33:10.000 I'm really impressed with this guy's research.

02:33:13.000 I've read quite a few of his articles in the past, and just for some reason never got him on.

02:33:17.000 He writes for Global Research, obviously, and Michelle Chosodosky and that great crew over there.

02:33:23.000 Maybe I'll twist his arm a little bit into the next hour so we can go through all these subjects.

02:33:27.000 I mean, he's an expert on how they radicalized the Muslims, used them to encircle Russia on the Brzezinski model. 1.00

02:33:34.000 And going into the future, they've always had this plan.

02:33:38.000 They needed to use Al-Qaeda as a pretext to get into the Middle East, get into Central Asia, and then revert back to their Cold War. 0.66

02:33:44.000 Now, to be clear, I'm not defending Vladimir Putin.

02:33:47.000 I'm not defending any of these people.

02:33:48.000 They have their own strategy, their own corruption, their own...

02:33:51.000 But they're not the global dominant system.

02:33:54.000 They're not the ones setting up free speech zones and devaluing the dollar and building FEMA camps here in the United States.

02:34:00.000 And they're not the ones that snuck attack Russia-controlled areas or demilitarized peacekeeping zone.

02:34:08.000 So that's why we have our guest on with us, and we'll plug your website and everything else before you leave us again, so listeners, be sure and be patient and wait for that.

02:34:20.000 Now, Mr. Engdahl, please continue breaking down what you were covering with this policy of encirclement.

02:34:27.000 of Russia.

02:34:28.000 NATO comes out and says, now we have a preemption to strike you first with nukes.

02:34:33.000 Russia says, okay, well then we now have a preemptive strike capability as well.

02:34:37.000 I mean, why this escalation?

02:34:38.000 Why this policy of starting a war with Russia continue?

02:34:43.000 Very simply, Alex, if you go back to what I said at the beginning of the program with Alfred Mackinder and Russia is the heartland.

02:34:51.000 Brzezinski said it in his 1997 Foreign Affairs article in his book The Grand Chess Game.

02:34:58.000 Explicitly, American policy is that we can allow no nation or group of nations to emerge as a potential competitor.

02:35:06.000 Now, that's a pretty arrogant foreign policy for a nation that preaches democracy, in my view.

02:35:11.000 But this is raw power politics, and their view is, and has always been, I maintain, since the end of the Cold War, for Washington, for the Pentagon elite, and the military-industrial complex, The Cold War never ended, not for a heartbeat.

02:35:28.000 They have quietly remodernized, revised, and upgraded their entire nuclear submarine fleet, their missile delivery systems, everything else.

02:35:39.000 But the key to the whole thing, the key to the whole shebang, and bringing Russia to its knees, listeners should realize the significance of Russia. 0.62

02:35:49.000 They went through hell under the Yeltsin era.

02:35:52.000 Washington, the Bush administration...

02:35:55.000 That was the British-U.S.-backed Anglo-American oligarchs. 0.99

02:35:58.000 They're sucking them dry. 0.96

02:36:00.000 Putin's the big enemy because he threw them out. 0.98

02:36:03.000 Yeah. Well, what you had was a dollarization of Russia under Yeltsin.

02:36:08.000 Essentially, the U.S. State Department kept Yeltsin filled with vodkas, enough to get what they wanted.

02:36:15.000 And they allowed these oligarchs to plunder the country and become dollar billionaires. 0.94

02:36:20.000 but they had to be dollar billionaires, not Deutschmark billionaires or French franc billionaires, and therefore dependent on dollar-related interests in London and in New York.

02:36:34.000 And, of course, these oligarchs, if you have the billion-dollar carrot wave in front of your nose, there are very few people that I know would say, oh, no, I'm not interested.

02:36:45.000 So they sold out their country and plundered the thing, And Yeltsin told the oligarchs, he sat them down and said, look, you backed my election bid to become president, and I'll make an agreement with you.

02:37:08.000 If you stay out of internal Russian politics and repatriate a share of your ill-gotten gains from plundering Russia, I'll leave you basically alone. 0.96

02:37:17.000 And that's what happened.

02:37:21.000 They had their empires and they went on in more or less an orderly way.

02:37:29.000 And you'd have two guys over all the oil and gas, one guy over all the nickel and other metals.

02:37:34.000 You'd have one guy over transportation. 0.91

02:37:36.000 What, there were only about nine oligarchs?

02:37:38.000 Yeah, something like that, seven or nine.

02:37:40.000 The numbers differ.

02:37:41.000 And what happened is, in 2004, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, one of the oligarchs who owned something called YukoSoil, he got a little bit greedy, and he was, at that time, labeled the richest man in Russia. He made a deal to buy Sibneft, another major Russian oil company, and entered into negotiations with Father Bush.

02:38:07.000 He brought Father Bush, then with the Carlisle Group, over to Moscow to negotiate selling 40%, it was said in the Russian press, 40% share of YukoSoil.

02:38:19.000 to either Chevron, Condoleezza Rice, Rice's old company, or to ExxonMobil.

02:38:24.000 I want to stop you.

02:38:25.000 I want to stop you right there, the biggest oil company.

02:38:27.000 I want to stop you because this is so important.

02:38:29.000 When you hear about America has a view of America first, that means our oligarchs that have looted us...

02:38:35.000 Want to use us as an engine to dominate the globe.

02:38:38.000 You see a lot of good old boys say, sounds good, let's take them Rooskies oil. 0.93

02:38:42.000 No, no, no, no, no.

02:38:43.000 We pay for the political projection of power, we end up getting nothing.

02:38:48.000 That's a key point.

02:38:49.000 There's a lot of sociopathic people out there who miscalculate, sir, and, you know, they're not coming to this from a moral perspective.

02:38:57.000 I want the immoral out there to know we're fitting the bill for this, and then we get none of the spoils.

02:39:03.000 Go ahead.

02:39:04.000 Yeah, well look at the bill that the American public is fitting for the madness in Iraq and Afghanistan. 0.99

02:39:12.000 Look at the body bags that are coming back and the administration won't even let those be publicized and given the...

02:39:18.000 3 trillion and counting, a million dead Iraqis, 5,000 dead U.S. troops in Iraq alone.

02:39:23.000 Yeah, and ongoing.

02:39:27.000 So, Daddy Bush comes over.

02:39:29.000 I interrupted.

02:39:29.000 Daddy Bush comes over.

02:39:30.000 They're about to hand over 40% directly to the Anglo-American oil companies.

02:39:36.000 Right. And that would give the U.S. a major, major foothold because British Petroleum had already cut a deal with TNK, another Russian oil company.

02:39:47.000 A major foothold in privatizing and taking over the crown jewels of the Russian economy, oil and gas.

02:39:54.000 Well, Khodorkovsky did something else.

02:39:56.000 He crossed the Rubicon with Putin, because he started using his money to bribe members of the Duma, the parliament in Russia, before the elections, and was on his way to change the law regarding the ownership rights of subsurface minerals, meaning oil and gas, so that private companies could build oil and gas pipelines, and he was working with Dick Cheney and people in Washington to do all this.

02:40:22.000 And he was a consultant at Carlyle Group.

02:40:25.000 Very few people realize that.

02:40:27.000 Mikhail Khodorkovsky, this Russian oligarch, was a consultant to this most powerful private equity group in Washington called the Carlisle Group, where George Bush Sr. was an advisor, as well as James Baker and numerous other scallywags that have done their deeds over the years.

02:40:50.000 Well, Khodorkovsky was out to make himself president with his money and essentially turned Russia over to his friends, his pals in Washington and New York and London.

02:40:58.000 And that was a step too far.

02:41:02.000 And suddenly he got off his plane in one of his oil projects in Siberia and was met by FSB, the Russian state security, and he's been in prison ever since.

02:41:13.000 That's how they deal with things in Russia.

02:41:16.000 You may say this isn't quite the niceties of law, this, that, and the other thing.

02:41:19.000 To my mind, I don't know that I would do it much differently if I were in Putin's shoes.

02:41:24.000 He was about to sell out the country, illegally buy up the Duma and make himself president, and give the whole thing, probably bring Russia into NATO, and poof, there would be it.

02:41:36.000 So I see Putin as a nationalist.

02:41:39.000 He's a Russian nationalist.

02:41:40.000 Russia is a different culture. 0.83

02:41:42.000 It has its own tone, its own way of doing things.

02:41:45.000 That's their business.

02:41:46.000 I don't interfere in that, and I ask people not to interfere in my business.

02:41:52.000 But I don't know.

02:42:08.000 Oh, I have to say, I mean, he's tired of Russian men dying at age 55. They're actually trying to get a breeding program going because the country's dying, to get the young people to have children. 0.99

02:42:17.000 I mean, this is the opposite of a eugenics agenda. 0.63

02:42:20.000 We see from the Russian government the opposite of the Anglo-American eugenics model that we live under.

02:42:26.000 Well, the eugenics model is what I write about in the Seeds of Destruction, the real project with the genetically modified seeds. 0.95

02:42:33.000 to my mind, is a Rockefeller Foundation project for precisely that.

02:42:37.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

02:42:38.000 This is too important.

02:42:39.000 What are you doing next hour?

02:42:41.000 I would prefer, Alex, if we could make it another date in a week or two.

02:42:46.000 No, no, no.

02:42:47.000 We'll do that.

02:42:48.000 But give us a prelude or, you know, give us...

02:42:52.000 Kind of an hors d'oeuvre of your research, because I've done a lot of research.

02:42:56.000 Everything you're saying is so accurate, and it's bringing up all the history, so I know it'll be accurate on these other issues.

02:43:00.000 I want to spend some time on the national security state.

02:43:03.000 I want to spend some time on the seeds.

02:43:05.000 But yeah, before...

02:43:07.000 Let me just keep you there, because I've got you on five minutes late. 0.96

02:43:09.000 How about five minutes into the next hour?

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