Alex Jones Show - 20080918_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 You want answers?

00:00:05.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:11.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:16.000 All right, he was going to be with us for a couple hours, but we got our wires crossed.

00:00:19.000 He was supposed to be on yesterday, so he'll be with us for an hour today.

00:00:22.000 No fault of mine, he's just got a scheduling problem.

00:00:24.000 He's coming to the United States, and I want to get him on when he's in the States for a couple hours from his hotel room.

00:00:31.000 The events are coming up the 27th and 28th in Santa Clara, California in Los Angeles at the Million Dollar Theater on the evening of Wednesday, October 1st.

00:00:41.000 The website is DavidIke.com and that tells you who is with us for the next hour.

00:00:45.000 In fact, I'm going to skip some breaks for InfoWars.com stream listeners today because we only have an hour with him.

00:00:52.000 I want to be able to give him as much time as possible to cover what's happening.

00:00:56.000 He just stood for Parliament His whole point was to educate people about how it was all a farce.

00:01:01.000 He did that.

00:01:02.000 I want to get the aftermath of that.

00:01:05.000 I also, with David Icke, he's been for over a decade predicting this world financial collapse by design.

00:01:11.000 No one is saying that, even though the IMF and World Bank documents from 2001, 2002 admit it's by design.

00:01:17.000 And Joseph Stiklitz, Nobel Prize winner, came on here two days ago and said on air that yes, basically this is engineered, as he said a few years ago on the show.

00:01:28.000 So we've got David Icke on about that and where he sees the future going.

00:01:31.000 I mean, you know, they gear up the police state, they stage a terror attack to roll that out publicly, then they cause a financial implosion where people will be more apt to grovel to them in this modern system, believing that their masters will take care of them.

00:01:45.000 So go to DavidIcke.com to find out about these rare appearances.

00:01:48.000 He only comes here about once a year, or less sometimes, of David Icke.

00:01:51.000 I mean, I'm tempted to go out there and shame But I just don't have the time to do it.

00:01:55.000 But if you live on the West Coast or anywhere out there, find out more at DavidIke.com.

00:01:59.000 David, it is a real pleasure to have you on with us.

00:02:07.000 Go ahead, David.

00:02:07.000 I had your phone faded down.

00:02:08.000 It's good to have you here, David.

00:02:10.000 Oh, we dropped him.

00:02:11.000 You know what?

00:02:12.000 Let's do this on the Genesis phone systems.

00:02:15.000 I want Genesis to call him.

00:02:16.000 See, that wasn't Cindy Sheehan that was getting disconnected.

00:02:19.000 That's our phone system.

00:02:20.000 That IP phone does that.

00:02:22.000 It never ends.

00:02:23.000 David, you're there?

00:02:24.000 I am, yeah.

00:02:25.000 Okay, good to have you back.

00:02:26.000 You're coming to America? 0.86

00:02:29.000 Yeah, I'm coming in the next few days and it really is a time when all of us have got to start talking louder than ever because this is moving on so fast.

00:02:41.000 Well, there's a quickening happening and I don't know how soon you cut off there when we first got you on.

00:02:45.000 The global financial meltdown, this is being engineered.

00:02:49.000 We have their own documents.

00:02:51.000 Absolutely.

00:02:52.000 We've had our own one here today with the biggest mortgage lender in Britain, the Halifax Bank of Scotland, being taken over by Lloyds TSB.

00:03:01.000 Then you've got a situation where you've got a merged company, Halifax and Bank of Scotland, being taken over now by another merged company, Lloyds and TSB.

00:03:13.000 We're now in a situation where It's not just big fish taking over smaller fish.

00:03:19.000 It's big fish being taken over by mega fish.

00:03:22.000 And one aspect of this, Alex, is the rapid speed of, if you like, globalization, centralization of power in the banking system, as is being accepted here.

00:03:34.000 This merger today, which is now giving this merged company 40% currently of British current accounts, would never have been allowed by the monopoly laws.

00:03:48.000 But because of the problems this biggest mortgage lender has had and was going to collapse, that's all put aside.

00:03:56.000 And now we have this mega, mega banking operation.

00:04:00.000 And as you say, it's moving so fast.

00:04:03.000 And in the end, we're now seeing in our face what has always been the case.

00:04:09.000 It's always been the case that a few have controlled the banking system, but they've used a stream of front names and masks.

00:04:17.000 Now the mask is lifting.

00:04:19.000 And we're seeing this in front of our eyes now.

00:04:23.000 Well, you're absolutely right.

00:04:24.000 The IMF and World Bank documents stated that they do this in third world countries, that they wanted to do this in the West.

00:04:30.000 The quote, bailout is the real theft because the elites already took the real assets out of the banks and then leveraged them into other assets and then took those assets out into infrastructure and commodities.

00:04:42.000 And now they're going to leave us holding the entire bag, not to bail them out, but to get us into greater debt.

00:04:49.000 We're going to skip this break with David Icke right now so we can have more time with him.

00:04:53.000 Stay with us.

00:04:56.000 David, let's continue, and if your phone, if the connection cuts out again, I'm going to call you from another network line.

00:05:02.000 John, if David drops again, call him from the Minnesota studios, okay?

00:05:07.000 Okay, you got it.

00:05:08.000 Okay, thank you so much.

00:05:10.000 In fact, let's introduce John Harmon.

00:05:11.000 John's been my on-site engineer up in Minnesota.

00:05:14.000 I'm down in Texas for the last four years, and he is the best on-site, off-site producer I've ever had.

00:05:22.000 Say hi to David, John.

00:05:23.000 Hello, Mr. Icke.

00:05:24.000 How are you doing?

00:05:24.000 Hello, John.

00:05:25.000 All right, mate.

00:05:26.000 Nice to talk to you.

00:05:27.000 OK, this is Wayne.

00:05:28.000 Yeah, you too.

00:05:29.000 To explain... Congratulations on the job you do.

00:05:31.000 You know, we need as many people who know how the system works as we can, because we've really got to get this out now.

00:05:40.000 Well said.

00:05:41.000 Thank you, sir.

00:05:42.000 To explain how this works, only the internet audience will hear us in these behind-the-scene discussions, but still, that tends to be a bigger audience in the aggregate.

00:05:53.000 The AM and FM's and satellite come back after the breaks.

00:05:55.000 But in the aggregate, over time, this all gets put as video.

00:05:59.000 We're on PrisonPlanet.tv right now, streaming live.

00:06:01.000 It'll be archived later.

00:06:04.000 We're going to come back to the full audience in two minutes, but I'm going to skip some of the breaks this hour, if that's okay with you.

00:06:16.000 But just give us a preview.

00:06:17.000 What are some of the things, I've mentioned what I want to talk about, the engineered implosion of the economy.

00:06:22.000 Sounds like you do want to go there, David.

00:06:24.000 But what are some of the other things you want to talk about?

00:06:27.000 Well, I think the important thing is to know where they want to take us.

00:06:33.000 And this manipulation now, quite blatant, of the financial markets is taking us in that direction of a world government, world army, world central bank, world currency, world microchip population.

00:06:49.000 And what we're seeing now is the dramatic centralization of power in the banking system Because in the end, they want just one centralized world banking system.

00:07:00.000 They want one centralized everything.

00:07:02.000 And the more that they are dismantling choice, the more they're dismantling diversity, even apparent diversity, the more they're hurtling towards this point of centralization.

00:07:14.000 That's right!

00:07:15.000 The only thing that I feel that it's important to understand is that on another level of creating this structure, the World Army and the world government, they want a world war.

00:07:26.000 They want a third world war. 0.77

00:07:27.000 And we've reached the point now where they're now starting to throw everything they can at us, the kitchen sink at us, because they're desperate to bring this in in not a long time scale.

00:07:42.000 And therefore, they're throwing everything at us that they can.

00:07:45.000 And the more they can create fear on a financial level, on a conflict level, whatever, the more people are going to open up to tell us how we can bring an end to this.

00:07:57.000 Stay there.

00:07:58.000 Let's cover...

00:07:58.000 will be their agenda.

00:08:00.000 The global fascist state.

00:08:01.000 David, we're coming back live.

00:08:02.000 Here we go.

00:08:03.000 You want answers?

00:08:05.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:15.000 The financial collapse that we are witnessing - Okay.

00:08:25.000 Has been engineered.

00:08:26.000 That's in the IMF and World Bank document plans.

00:08:28.000 The Rothschilds in... 0.89

00:08:32.000 1815, this is mainline history, knew that Napoleon had lost.

00:08:36.000 They had their fast ships race across the channel hours before anybody else and say that Lord Wellington and the Austrians have lost.

00:08:46.000 And then the stocks plunged by 98% as we cover in my film, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.

00:08:51.000 And then they bought up the entire stock exchange and the brokerage houses and banking houses for pennies on the dollar.

00:08:57.000 And it is the same thing with the five false pillars of these big brokerage houses and banks.

00:09:02.000 They have done this by design, and now, at the end of the Ponzi scheme, people think this is saving the economy or bailing it out.

00:09:09.000 Treasury Secretary Paulson has even told the Congress, you're not involved in this.

00:09:14.000 And Congress says, but we're involved in funding.

00:09:16.000 And they said, look, we have a private government now under the Federal Reserve.

00:09:19.000 That's in the news.

00:09:20.000 And so you have it all openly consolidating down to one system and David Icke is going to be talking about how this has been engineered.

00:09:26.000 He's been predicting this for more than a decade.

00:09:28.000 And then we're going to get into how they want to also create World War III, global conflict to create the fear so that they can sell the cashless society control grid.

00:09:37.000 They have to destroy the dollar, destroy the pound, destroy the old order while they've been building the new world order, this technological enslavement system enslavement grid, and now they have to get rid of the old so that the new can fully emerge.

00:09:52.000 This is all on paper, not just our opinion.

00:09:54.000 And so David's going to break all this down with us in the next 55 minutes that we have left with him.

00:10:01.000 David Icke, please continue.

00:10:02.000 Well, you know, we've reached the point in this unfolding conspiracy to create this centralized global Orwellian state where it's broken the surface.

00:10:15.000 I mean, for a long time it was operating under the surface where people couldn't see it.

00:10:21.000 But for it to become installed in place, it had at some point had to break the surface where people could actually see it.

00:10:30.000 So this is a time of great challenge, but it's also a time of great opportunity because people more and more can't just go into denial and ask when the next game shows on because this is now starting to impact on their lives.

00:10:44.000 And I just come back from Croatia where the interest in this whole information that we put out just took me aback.

00:10:54.000 People are starting to wake up to it.

00:10:57.000 And so the challenge, yes, there is, but there's also an opportunity as people can see that what we've been saying is actually now happening.

00:11:07.000 So those two things are going together.

00:11:09.000 And in this, if you like, final run-in to this Orwellian imposition that they want, and it's, of course, unfolding very fast all over the world, they're now throwing everything they can at us.

00:11:23.000 They want to hit us from emotionally, financially, on all levels.

00:11:28.000 And one of them, of course, is creating fear through finance because money is what everyone is frightened of not having in this world.

00:11:35.000 world where it is so important to choice in life and living and survival, but they're also going to hit us on the level of a third world war.

00:11:46.000 I'm absolutely convinced and have been for a very long time.

00:11:49.000 They want a third world war involving North America, particularly Europe, Russia and China.

00:11:55.000 And this whole business in Georgia has been part of the moving of the chess pieces to advance that along the road to when it actually breaks out, and possibly involving the Middle East and Israel as a trigger.

00:12:09.000 But it's a time when we've really got to re-evaluate our lives and re-evaluate our priorities and realize that we're facing not just a massive challenge for ourselves now, but an enormous challenge for our children and grandchildren now.

00:12:24.000 That's right.

00:12:24.000 If we don't say no now, they're going to be able... The New World Order of Social Architects, as you know, in their own textbooks, going back a hundred years ago, and the different PhDs that were put out from Germany and England on this, said they unfreeze societies with crisis and fear, because societies are normally rigid, people like the status quo.

00:12:42.000 But they say it's a danger because they, when things are unfrozen, can mold things the way they want, but also the resistance can mold things.

00:12:50.000 And so this is that window.

00:12:52.000 The enemy's window, our window.

00:12:55.000 That's why all of you have got to shine brighter than ever.

00:12:57.000 What David was saying is that everything is yin and yang in this world, for every action an equal reaction.

00:13:04.000 All over the world, 9-11 truth, everything is exploding like never before, the disinfo operatives are telling us it's all dead, they're panicking, you know, they're trying to tell us, you've already lost, you will be assimilated, when we have a really big chance here, and talk about Orwellian, a sneak attack by the US and Israel-backed, NATO-backed Georgia on these Russian enclaves, and talk about mind control, our media comes and says Russia snuck attack, I mean, if that isn't Orwellian, please continue.

00:13:31.000 Well, the whole thing in Georgia came originally from the so-called People's Revolution there.

00:13:39.000 And these People's Revolutions, these spontaneous people's protests which led to the overturning of the of the regime in power were invariably manipulated to bring that about.

00:13:52.000 I mean, in Georgia, the so-called Rose Revolution, which involved in a high profile way, a man called Shaka Svahili, who then became the president, was funded by George Soros.

00:14:08.000 And students were trained in large numbers in the art of civil disobedience and civil protest, And so not only did, uh, the forces that control, uh, American society, uh, take advantage of the Georgian revolution and turned it into yet another 51st state of the United States,

00:14:30.000 They actually created the revolution in the first place, and this happened throughout many of the former Eastern European communist countries.

00:14:39.000 And David, there's always other layers.

00:14:41.000 Meanwhile Soros acts like he's against Bush, but then it turns out his funded group worked with the CIA and with Bush and McCain's advisor, who's Georgian.

00:14:50.000 So again, on the surface they're fighting with each other, but behind the scenes they're not.

00:14:55.000 It's like Mary Madeline's married to George Carvel.

00:15:00.000 I've seen people responding to this invasion of South Ossetia by Georgia and then the Russian response as if, hey, you know, the Americans have got to be crazy or whatever.

00:15:15.000 Did they not realize Russia was going to respond like that?

00:15:18.000 Of course they did.

00:15:19.000 That's part of the game.

00:15:21.000 It's causing this Yeah, that crashed the Russian stock market that was going up while ours was going down.

00:15:30.000 Now theirs has been shut down for two days.

00:15:33.000 Yeah, I mean, these are all masks on the same face.

00:15:37.000 It's a chessboard, as Steven wrote about.

00:15:40.000 It's a chessboard, and we're seeing the pieces moving around.

00:15:43.000 And what I would say to people is, if you think, you know, you don't like the world as it is now, well, it ain't gonna stay like this.

00:15:52.000 This is not the point where they wish to be and pitch their tent and say, okay, we've got control.

00:16:00.000 push this forward in a much more extreme way even is now far more and if it's bad now what is it going to be like for our children and our grandchildren they're going to have to live most of their lives in this Orwellian nightmare that is moving so fast they're not even going to live David they're not even going to live it In fact, you've written about this before I was even on the scene, but I want you to get into the Population Plan.

00:16:26.000 Open UN Biological Diversity Assessments.

00:16:29.000 Open government plans.

00:16:30.000 PDDs.

00:16:32.000 State Department Memorandum 200.

00:16:33.000 The Royal Commission on Population.

00:16:37.000 World government is only a means to an end. 0.71

00:16:40.000 Let's talk about that end where they debate whether to kill 100% of the humans and then make themselves these cybernetic god creatures.

00:16:48.000 That's not me, that's them.

00:16:49.000 That's mainline.

00:16:50.000 or, and again, I'm not even saying that's real, that's what they believe.

00:16:54.000 You know, David would say that it probably is.

00:16:56.000 The point is, is that it's so wild what they write and say. 0.95

00:16:58.000 The debate is kill everyone or kill 99% or kill down to 80%.

00:17:04.000 David, talk about that. 0.94

00:17:05.000 The end game, where this is going.

00:17:07.000 Well, the point I really want to get over is that, you know, I've been with this for many, many years, as you have, and in the end, we as people, people listening to this show and all shows like it, We've got to move from just learning more and more and more about our own prison and how it works.

00:17:33.000 That's important to know, it really is.

00:17:35.000 We've got to get to the point now where we say, what the heck are we going to do about it?

00:17:39.000 And we have to stop being divided and ruled by the fault lines of religion and class and income bracket and culture and country, and realize that Well, we're going here and the cell door is swinging and we've just got a bit of time here to stop it crashing shut, but not if we just talk about it and shout about it.

00:18:05.000 We've got to start getting organized and respond to this.

00:18:09.000 And what we need is to stop cooperating with our own enslavement.

00:18:16.000 We need a mass, peaceful, non-cooperation with the system.

00:18:23.000 Here's one.

00:18:24.000 Otherwise, we're building our own prison.

00:18:27.000 Everybody should put up a micro FM and carry radio shows like this.

00:18:31.000 It's civil disobedience.

00:18:33.000 We've got Northcom declaring martial law right here in the Army Times, saying regular brigades of Army troops will be in the U.S.

00:18:40.000 I agree.

00:18:40.000 Put up micros to show the slaves their prison to unlock their minds.

00:18:44.000 But us at a higher level, go to the City Council and say, don't be part of this.

00:18:48.000 Don't be part of martial law.

00:18:50.000 David, how else do we not comply?

00:18:52.000 I mean, what do we do when they put a camera up by our house?

00:18:56.000 Well, in the end, we have got to peacefully resist the imposition of this enslavement.

00:19:05.000 Take it on a real simple level.

00:19:08.000 In Britain now, you can get fined £75 for putting your trash can out on the wrong day.

00:19:16.000 Now, instead of, and I hear it all the time, Alex, oh, what's the world coming to?

00:19:21.000 Oh, I don't know, whatever next?

00:19:23.000 I don't know, it's terrible, isn't it?

00:19:26.000 And then they switch the game show on.

00:19:28.000 We've got to start, all of us, whether we're Christian or Muslim or Jewish or whatever, because this prison is not for one group.

00:19:37.000 It's for all of us who are not part of it.

00:19:39.000 And they play us off against each other to control us.

00:19:41.000 Stay there.

00:19:41.000 We're going to talk behind scenes for InfoWars.com, stream listeners, and PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

00:19:48.000 David Icke's coming to the U.S.

00:19:49.000 Check it out at DavidIcke.com.

00:19:50.000 Stay with us.

00:19:53.000 Okay, David, continue with examples of saying no.

00:19:56.000 Continue with examples of... I mean, start small.

00:20:00.000 Start a blog.

00:20:01.000 Call into a talk show.

00:20:02.000 Go to a city council.

00:20:04.000 Say no.

00:20:05.000 I mean, I'm not saying climb up a pole at night and beat a camera up with a baseball bat.

00:20:09.000 I'm not saying go up on a corporate billboard and spray-paint InfoWars.com or DavidIke.com.

00:20:14.000 I'm not saying go that far like the founding fathers would have, David.

00:20:21.000 Yeah, the thing is, you know, we've got to reach a point now where one person's injustice and one person's imposition by the state is ours.

00:20:32.000 So when one person is treated unjustly by the state for doing something, then large, vast numbers of people immediately do it.

00:20:41.000 A simple thing, like you put your wheelie bin out on the wrong day, the council gives you a fine for 75, The next thing you know, the council is dealing with thousands of people putting their wheelie bin out on the wrong day indefinitely until the law's changed or refusing to pay taxes to the council until the law's changed.

00:21:03.000 We've got to start doing this.

00:21:05.000 Otherwise, we're just going to complain and moan and basically watch the prison being built and more and more knowing it's being built and understanding how it's built, but actually still not intervening in the process of it being built.

00:21:20.000 Well, David, here's a quick example.

00:21:21.000 I remember like eight years ago, it was in Louisiana, big 5A school.

00:21:25.000 People can look it up.

00:21:26.000 It was in WorldNet Daily and the Associated Press and other places, because I had some of the kids on.

00:21:29.000 It was a high school, young men and women.

00:21:32.000 And they just said, you've all got to wear ID badges around your neck.

00:21:35.000 And first they showed how you could read the barcode and learn, just viewing it, what somebody's social security number was.

00:21:41.000 So that showed that it was unsecured.

00:21:44.000 And one girl said no, they expelled her, and then about 20 said no, they expelled them, and then like half the school said no, and they expelled all of them, and then they had to back off and remove it.

00:21:54.000 And that's an example right there of saying no, no, no.

00:21:58.000 That's what we need to do.

00:22:00.000 See, we had a wonderful example in this country a few years ago, which I was actually involved in when I was in the Green Party.

00:22:05.000 National ID card.

00:22:07.000 Say again?

00:22:08.000 It was the National ID card, wasn't it?

00:22:10.000 Yeah, no, it was a Margaret Thatcher tax called the Poll Tax, which taxed people of high income the same as people of low income.

00:22:19.000 It was a local poll tax.

00:22:22.000 And because, and this is the important thing, Alex, because it didn't just hit the, if you like, the working classes, as we call them here, it hit the middle classes as well, the fault line was removed because There was a mutual effect on both groups.

00:22:40.000 As a result, there was a vast movement in this country, which I was involved in myself, in not paying that tax, refusing to pay the tax.

00:22:48.000 Some people went to jail because of it.

00:22:50.000 But what actually happened was so many people didn't pay it, the tax had to be withdrawn.

00:22:56.000 And that was a fundamental reason why Margaret Thatcher lost her power. 1.00

00:23:02.000 So these are the things that we can do.

00:23:03.000 The point is, Oh my God, there are billions of us, and at the core, who know the big picture of what they're doing, there is a relative, relative handful of the people doing it!

00:23:16.000 I think I see a way out of this!

00:23:19.000 But we have to unite, and we have to take a deep breath, and we have to stop being frightened of authority, and realize that in the end, it's frightened of us!

00:23:28.000 Well, they're scared to death of us!

00:23:30.000 I mean, look at how the system is trying to chill demonstrations, protests, trying to intimidate people.

00:23:37.000 And now everybody can see that we're being looted, that the Treasury is being robbed, that trillions in debt is being piled on all our names, and it's an illegitimate, fraudulent debt, and there's no discussion in the corporate media of any of these criminals even being investigated or going to jail.

00:23:53.000 Here we go.

00:23:53.000 Full audience.

00:23:54.000 Okay.

00:23:58.000 David Icke, quite a rebel. - Well...

00:24:03.000 Certainly an icon when you talk about the awakening movement, the waking life that we're all living here.

00:24:10.000 We're always honored to have him on with us as things quicken, as things accelerate and get worse a lot faster.

00:24:16.000 I want to have David on more and more, and we respect his time, but it's just great to have him here with us because what he does is very important.

00:24:25.000 He's been right about everything he's talked about coming true, and he gets people to really get outside the box in his own You know, own way.

00:24:34.000 Very well spoken and comes at things from a great angle.

00:24:37.000 So we love having David Icke with us.

00:24:39.000 He's coming to the United States in late September and early October.

00:24:43.000 Check out more at DavidIcke.com.

00:24:45.000 He'll be in California three dates only.

00:24:48.000 Twice in Santa Clara, on the 27th and 28th, and once in Los Angeles.

00:24:52.000 Again, details at DavidIcke.com.

00:24:56.000 Of course, those will always sell out, folks.

00:24:58.000 You better get tickets now.

00:24:59.000 Don't wait until the last day and then whine and scream about it.

00:25:02.000 That's part of the good thing.

00:25:03.000 David can sell out 3,000, 4,000, 5,000 person ballrooms now.

00:25:07.000 And going back decades ago, maybe five people would show up.

00:25:12.000 And really, isn't that the power we have, is that we saw it.

00:25:17.000 Nothing special about us.

00:25:18.000 We just saw behind the curtain a little bit earlier than other people and have gone deeper down that rabbit hole.

00:25:24.000 You, you know, probably deeper than me in some respects.

00:25:27.000 And then so much of what we said came true exactly as we said it would.

00:25:32.000 And so people are really paying attention now, David.

00:25:35.000 Yes, they are.

00:25:36.000 And, you know, I just want to keep emphasizing, you know, with the major audience that we're back talking to now.

00:25:46.000 We really got to start moving from just understanding more about the game and the situation we face to doing something about it.

00:25:56.000 There are billions of people being manipulated along this road.

00:26:02.000 There are a relative handful of people at the core in full knowledge of what they're doing, who are actually doing the manipulating.

00:26:11.000 We do not have to go down this road if we wake up, first of all, to what's happening and then start to react to it.

00:26:21.000 I remember, Alex, there was a movie, an animated movie some years ago called A Bug's Life.

00:26:27.000 For people who don't remember it, it was about a small group of grasshoppers who controlled through fear a massive group of ants on a place called Ant Island.

00:26:40.000 And they got these ants all the year to gather food to give to the grasshoppers when they come once a year to fetch it.

00:26:50.000 There's one scene that was so encapsulating of what we're talking about here.

00:26:54.000 They were The grasshoppers were in their winter quarters in some tree or other, and they had all the food they needed.

00:27:03.000 And the leader came along and said, we've got to go down to Ant Island.

00:27:06.000 And one of the smaller guys said, well, what do we have to go to Ant Island for?

00:27:12.000 We've got all the food we need.

00:27:14.000 We don't need that food.

00:27:15.000 What do we need it for?

00:27:16.000 And then he stood up and he made A speech about the facts of life, if you are the few and you need to control the many.

00:27:24.000 And what had happened in a previous scene is one ant, the last time they went to an island to get the food, had stood up and challenged what they were doing and questioned what they were doing.

00:27:36.000 And he said, basically, it's not about the food.

00:27:39.000 It's about keeping them under control.

00:27:42.000 And this was the line I remember.

00:27:45.000 There's a few of us, basically, and there are enormous numbers of them.

00:27:50.000 We need them more than they need us.

00:27:53.000 And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life.

00:27:59.000 What we need to do now, Alex, now we're gathering this understanding of what's happening, is to figure that out.

00:28:07.000 We do not have to be controlled by the few when we are the vast majority.

00:28:12.000 What happens is we're divided and ruled.

00:28:15.000 We fight among each other on religion and politics and income bracket and culture and country and all these things.

00:28:22.000 And the enemy facilitates that, even in our own truth movements, patriot movements.

00:28:26.000 They send in the people to create dissent, who then stand back and go, I've not done anything.

00:28:32.000 I'm being persecuted so they get those fights going.

00:28:35.000 So I think it's important to ignore those fights and move forward with issues.

00:28:38.000 In fact, we played that clip many times here on air years ago.

00:28:41.000 John Stevens told me on the computer, it's where he says, hey boss, why do you care about one aunt?

00:28:45.000 He goes, listen, they outnumber us 100 to 1 and if they ever figure that out, it's over for us.

00:28:52.000 Yeah, and that's what we need to figure out now, because at the moment, what's happening?

00:28:58.000 You've got this pyramid, you've got the few at the top who are doing it, you've got the vast majority at the bottom who are being manipulated, but also, in that middle sector, you've got people who are fundamentally important to The agenda unfolding and playing out into society who don't know the extent of the game they're playing a part in.

00:29:19.000 And they have children and they have grandchildren.

00:29:22.000 I've talked to some in the last little while, and they're now starting to go, hold on a second, what are we actually installing here without realizing it?

00:29:31.000 That's right.

00:29:32.000 And if we don't get to those people, the pyramid starts to malfunction.

00:29:35.000 Exactly.

00:29:36.000 Stay there.

00:29:36.000 David, let's continue behind the scenes for InfoWars.com.

00:29:39.000 Stream listeners only.

00:29:41.000 We'll be right back for everybody else.

00:29:43.000 Please stay with us.

00:29:45.000 I just don't want to waste any of this time.

00:29:47.000 John, can you find that clip?

00:29:49.000 I'm looking on YouTube.

00:29:51.000 I used to play it like eight, nine years ago and I've heard other shows play it here on the network.

00:29:56.000 So you might look in some of their files.

00:29:58.000 I forget the shows.

00:29:59.000 I think I've heard it on Dave & Joy Shows and on J.C.

00:30:02.000 Clayton Show and some of the others.

00:30:03.000 So just look in there and see if you can find that.

00:30:07.000 Okay, David, let's continue.

00:30:11.000 I'm glad you're focused in on this, but you're so deep in the understanding.

00:30:16.000 I understand tens of millions in the U.S.

00:30:18.000 and hundreds of millions, maybe even a billion worldwide are somewhat awake now to a deeper understanding.

00:30:24.000 Well, I think we need to continue trying to broadcast with the new mass of people we've woken up, if they continue the process of just trying to get the mind-controlled zombies to be taken out of the Matrix pod, then we can go to the next level.

00:30:42.000 So I think we should simultaneously resist and say no, no, no, and get others to say no, no, no, but continue to inform and educate and expose.

00:30:51.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:30:52.000 I'm not saying stop pulling the info out and let's do something.

00:30:55.000 No, no, no.

00:30:56.000 Oh, no, I know.

00:30:57.000 You're not saying that.

00:30:57.000 I was sent it first.

00:30:58.000 Yeah, I know.

00:30:59.000 But they have to be simultaneous.

00:31:01.000 Absolutely.

00:31:01.000 I couldn't agree more.

00:31:02.000 And because there are still enormous amounts of people who are still solid gold concrete asleep, it's just the numbers are getting greater.

00:31:11.000 But those who are awake, those who are beginning to see it, And no longer in denial about it.

00:31:16.000 They're the ones that are now going to say, OK, what do we do about it?

00:31:21.000 And, you know, it's one of the things I say in my talks.

00:31:24.000 No more excuses.

00:31:26.000 There's no more excuses.

00:31:28.000 Look in the eyes of your children and grandchildren and tell them your excuses.

00:31:33.000 We now have to get seriously active and organize this non-cooperation with this system, because if we don't cooperate, it can't function.

00:31:45.000 Absolutely.

00:31:45.000 Let me see if this is the clip right here.

00:31:46.000 Oh, for some reason it's not playing on this computer.

00:31:52.000 I have it.

00:31:53.000 I have it.

00:31:53.000 Oh, wait.

00:31:54.000 We'll play it when we come back.

00:31:55.000 I got obsessed with that.

00:31:56.000 It's just so powerful.

00:31:59.000 It says so much in a few words, really.

00:32:01.000 Yeah, I've actually got it up on screen too for folks.

00:32:05.000 We're also on TV at PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:32:08.000 You know, David, Things are accelerating at every level and the evil, even though I consciously knew they were going to do this and I intellectually knew all this would be happening, it's still amazing and shocking to be here and to see the awakening happening that we foresaw.

00:32:25.000 I think you foresaw it.

00:32:26.000 It's just extraordinary.

00:32:27.000 I'll tell you what Alex, my experience just now in Croatia last week just took me aback.

00:32:32.000 I didn't know whether I'd landed at an airport or a space station on another planet because, you know, I was all over the mainstream media.

00:32:41.000 Their version of the BBC, I was in the main news magazine, there was a two-page feature in the main... Stay there, we're coming back live.

00:32:48.000 I want to hear about this.

00:32:49.000 Sorry to interrupt, we have to go back live to the full audience.

00:32:51.000 Here we go.

00:32:52.000 Okay, no problem.

00:32:54.000 Play the clip whenever you want, John.

00:32:55.000 You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up.

00:33:02.000 Those puny little ants outnumber us 100 to 1. 0.55

00:33:07.000 But we're not puny little ants.

00:33:13.000 We're human beings made in the image of the Creator.

00:33:15.000 We are amazing, dynamic creatures.

00:33:17.000 Stop groveling in the dirt for jewels and goblets and cars.

00:33:21.000 Start caring about liberty and freedom.

00:33:23.000 That's what generates all that wealth.

00:33:25.000 That's why the enemies of freedom came here to take it over.

00:33:29.000 The birthplace of modern liberty, England and the United States.

00:33:31.000 The Rothschilds took over there in 1815, totally.

00:33:35.000 And they've taken over here in 1913, and they're running us directly into the ground.

00:33:40.000 David Icke, for the behind-the-scenes folks that were listening at Infowars.com and watching on PrisonPlanet.tv, you started telling a story of landing in Croatia, and it was like you were at a spaceport.

00:33:50.000 It's the same thing.

00:33:51.000 I'm sent photos every day in Russia, in Germany, in Czech Republic, in Japan, bridges with Infowars.com on it.

00:33:59.000 Australia.

00:34:00.000 And then I go on Russian TV, Iranian TV, other foreign TV.

00:34:05.000 Japanese TV comes and interviews me, and it's like they're falling over themselves, going, oh everyone loves you in our country, oh everyone is waking up to the New World Order, may I have your autograph?

00:34:15.000 And it's presenters on TV.

00:34:17.000 And I'm just one guy in this, so I can't imagine what happened to you in Croatia.

00:34:22.000 Tell us about it.

00:34:24.000 Well, it was just incredible.

00:34:25.000 I mean, you know, you put this information out, and then you put more information out the next day, and more information out the next day, and you don't really understand where it actually goes and the rate that it's picked up around the world.

00:34:39.000 And I went into Croatia and not knowing what to expect.

00:34:43.000 Like I said, whether I'd land at an airport or a space station, because it was like a different planet, you know.

00:34:48.000 And what it was, Alex, it was a glimpse of what could be and would be, but for the suppression of information in the mainstream media.

00:34:56.000 Because I was on the mainstream television, being interviewed by mainstream journalists that read my stuff and are aware of the information.

00:35:07.000 I was in the main Sunday newspaper, two pages Uh, about the information in which the writer said, having seen it put together, I think, I think it's right.

00:35:17.000 I think there is a global conspiracy.

00:35:18.000 I think this is happening.

00:35:20.000 Mainstream journalists.

00:35:21.000 I was in their version of Time Magazine called Globus Magazine.

00:35:24.000 Again, three pages about this information.

00:35:27.000 And I was just everywhere, and not because of me, but because of the information.

00:35:32.000 People just can't get enough of it.

00:35:35.000 Because once people start to see the dots connected, this apparently bewildering, confused, impossible to fathom world starts to make sense.

00:35:47.000 But at the risk of being repetitive, we really have, those people who have woken up, have really now got to turn their minds to what are we going to do about it. - And they've got to realize. - We're talking about ourselves every day. - And they've got to realize. - Every day, what have we contributed today to have really now got to turn their minds to what are we going to do about it. - And they've got to realize. - We're talking about ourselves every day. - And they've got What have we contributed today to bringing an end to this move, this enormously quickening move now to this Orwellian state, and what have we done to inform more people of what's going on?

00:36:16.000 Because there's nothing, nothing more important than this information, because if we don't sort this out, everything goes, everything ends, and we've really got to focus on what do we do, rather than just learning more about it.

00:36:32.000 I just want to repeat what you were saying, but another way.

00:36:37.000 This is the time, folks.

00:36:38.000 This is the window for the enemy and for humanity.

00:36:40.000 This is it, and it's only going to intensify for the next decade, and then that's going to decide the future destiny of humanity.

00:36:47.000 We are at the crossroads.

00:36:49.000 They try to use fake Christianity to neutralize the majority of Christians to think it's the, you know, there's nothing you can do, the devil's coming, don't warn anybody, just wait to be raptured. 0.74

00:37:00.000 That is designed to make you sit out.

00:37:02.000 They get the Buddhists to sit out thinking it's all the will of the singularity of the universe. 1.00

00:37:07.000 All these mainline religions, and I'm not attacking them, I'm saying what the New World Order has done with them is turn them into excuses to lay there and lay down and take it. 0.99

00:37:17.000 You need to be active in...

00:37:20.000 In this one time to live, in this key time that we are alive.

00:37:24.000 And what David Ige is saying is absolutely true.

00:37:26.000 The power you have right now with blogs and emails and calling into shows and talking to people on the street and picketing and going to city council and saying no to the system and making little internet films or big internet films The power of so many well-to-do people who sat on the sidelines and said, I'm going to see what happens.

00:37:46.000 I know you're right about this, but I'm going to see what happens.

00:37:48.000 Before we went to break, David, you brought up a key area.

00:37:51.000 People in the middle and upper strata of the New World Order are going, my God, they really do plan to kill 80% or more.

00:37:57.000 My God, they really are putting sodium fluoride in the water to brain damage people.

00:38:00.000 My God, they really are, and it's all coming out.

00:38:03.000 And so people are really starting to find out in the system, what do they do?

00:38:08.000 What's your advice to not just the grassroots, but say a police captain?

00:38:13.000 This is a key area, because you've got the pyramid, you've got the few at the top who are doing it in full awareness, and then you've got the mass of the people in society at the bottom.

00:38:24.000 But between those points, You've got this, if you like, middle management of the pyramid which is absolutely essential to installing the agenda that's dictated from above, but doesn't have the full picture and often very little of the picture of how the pieces fit and what they're actually contributing to.

00:38:44.000 And they have children and grandchildren who are going to have to live And face the consequences of them doing nothing.

00:38:52.000 And so, like I say, last little while I talked to some of these people and they've gone, hold on a second, I think I've realized what I've been contributing to all this time.

00:39:01.000 Now this is the level that if they start to rebel, if they start to refuse, if they start to question, if they start, my goodness me, to speak out publicly and say, I know this is happening as I'm an On the inside, and I can tell you this, if they start to do that, then a massive spanner is thrown in the works.

00:39:22.000 You're talking about a few people in full knowledge who are manipulating, and they have to manipulate the population to manipulate and control each other, and to imprison each other.

00:39:33.000 And if those people, those key levels of management, if you like, start to refuse to do that, start to speak out, refuse to impose ludicrous laws that come straight out of Nazi Germany, then the system can't function. 0.50

00:39:50.000 And if the people In mainstream society, who are not in those positions, also start to get together on a mass campaign of civil disobedience and refusal to cooperate with their own enslavement, then the whole thing starts to fall apart.

00:40:07.000 Because there's a few of them, and there's an enormous amount of us, and we need to stop asking, are you a Christian?

00:40:15.000 Are you a Muslim?

00:40:15.000 I won't take you seriously if you're not.

00:40:17.000 And all this nonsense, which is putting all of us In the same prison cell.

00:40:22.000 I tell you what, when we're in a prison cell, and the doors slam shut, and there's guards all around, let's have a debate about who's got the right religion, shall we?

00:40:31.000 Let's have a debate with our children, whose very thoughts are being controlled by then, about what religion they should follow, or whether they should vote for this person or that person, or whether this country's better than another.

00:40:42.000 Let's start to grow up Because if we don't, this is the road we're going down.

00:40:47.000 But if we do, it's a house of cards, this whole thing.

00:40:51.000 It's a house of cards.

00:40:52.000 And who's holding it together?

00:40:54.000 We are.

00:40:55.000 We need to stop.

00:40:56.000 And when we do, it'll fall.

00:40:58.000 But not unless we do.

00:41:00.000 Well, it is your capacity and others' capacity to empathize that leads to greater knowledge.

00:41:05.000 People that only care about themselves think that they're winning or having some big victory as they covet something in the dark corner.

00:41:12.000 But empathizing, when you start caring about other people, and when you see their abuse as your abuse, and when you see an Iraqi child with their legs blown off, and you empathize, that could be my child, and you start standing up against that crime, it's that idea and that idea put into action that brings liberty and freedom it's the idea oh there's subhuman kill them that will bring death and destruction to your own children because if you let evil Alex I tell you one thing that would change this world overnight because of all that would come from it

00:41:42.000 if everybody or vast numbers of people stop making decisions on situations they face every day on the basis of what's right for me and start to ask the question when they're making decisions on their action what is right.

00:41:59.000 If we do what is right, then we stand up for the injustice against others, even if we're not affected by it.

00:42:07.000 If we have a situation, this is how it works.

00:42:10.000 I hear people say, well, I'm not bothered about his freedom of speech, because I don't agree with him.

00:42:14.000 I mean, if one person does not have the freedom to express their freely chosen view, then none of us do, because everything else after one person loses that right is not the right to freedom of speech.

00:42:28.000 It's the right to conform within the limits of what is acceptable to say.

00:42:34.000 So one person loses their freedom of expression, we all lose it.

00:42:37.000 And if one person is targeted by these fascists, then we all need to stand with them.

00:42:45.000 Whether we agree with them, whether we like them, whether they're a different religion, a different colour, it doesn't matter. 0.54

00:42:50.000 We need to come together and stop these fault lines of divide and rule.

00:42:56.000 Because that's the way it's done.

00:42:58.000 And if we stop doing it, the whole agenda comes under tremendous pressure because it can't function and it can't play out.

00:43:07.000 Now, David, we've talked about the awakening, people taking action, a lot of solutions today.

00:43:11.000 We're going to have you back up in the next month, if you can do it, to get more into that and some of your new books and videos that are out available at DavidIke.com.

00:43:19.000 But I wanted to spend some time on the enemy's agenda and their program.

00:43:24.000 They're having a meeting in Europe, in Brussels today, with the Chinese government's proposal.

00:43:30.000 This is in the Associated Press and on the UN's website and with the NSA to decide on a global standard how to enforce Internet ID where you're tracked and traced.

00:43:41.000 And so they can turn your Internet ID off if they don't like the post you're making.

00:43:45.000 So a universal ban.

00:43:46.000 Because now if they restrict YouTube or Google or something, people just move to other sites and those become popular.

00:43:51.000 They want to be able to universally ban and control.

00:43:53.000 They openly say they're bringing in Internet, too, and blocking most IPs and blocking most websites.

00:44:00.000 There's hundreds of ways they're attacking.

00:44:02.000 Comcast, Time Warner, you know, blocking in many cities now, in many systems, down to just a few thousand sites you can visit from billions.

00:44:10.000 I mean, it's happening.

00:44:11.000 It's not in the realm of gonna come, you know, might happen.

00:44:14.000 It's now here.

00:44:16.000 They are moving.

00:44:18.000 YouTube is implementing the bill that hasn't even passed the Senate yet to restrict anything basically criticizing the government.

00:44:25.000 9-11 Truth has been listed as to be banned on the web.

00:44:29.000 You can't make this up.

00:44:30.000 It's in the bill.

00:44:31.000 They showed 9-11 Truth next to Al Qaeda in Congress in videos they showed.

00:44:36.000 Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth.

00:44:37.000 They're so scared of those scholars.

00:44:40.000 How do we protest and demonstrate and boycott Time Warner Cable?

00:44:46.000 And people say, well, they're not blocking IPs yet or blocking web addresses in Austin or Dallas.

00:44:51.000 It's only in areas of South Texas or areas of Canada.

00:44:54.000 They're beta testing.

00:44:55.000 You boycott them all now and let them know you're doing it because of this.

00:45:01.000 You educate the public.

00:45:03.000 You explain that.

00:45:04.000 I mean, what are your ideas to save the Internet?

00:45:07.000 Well, exactly.

00:45:08.000 The one thing we can do is when these people impose these things, we just move away from them.

00:45:15.000 Because what you're describing is what we have in Britain when the government says we're having a trial.

00:45:21.000 And when the government says we're having a trial, you know actually this is what's coming next for everybody.

00:45:26.000 They have trials of all different things to do with this Orwellian agenda.

00:45:32.000 Oh, it's just a trial.

00:45:33.000 We've had a trial recently in terms of tracking car speeds over a period of many, many miles instead of on one camera as you pass it.

00:45:42.000 And let me stop you.

00:45:43.000 The trial was going to become universally introduced, and that's what they've now announced they're going to do.

00:45:49.000 David, David.

00:45:50.000 It's at the point of the trial we need to jump in and start resisting it, not when the whole thing's a fait accompli.

00:45:58.000 Well, I mean, I was about to say, you know when it's corporate propaganda, because everything is phrased like, it's no big deal, it's just a trial, it doesn't affect anyone, don't worry.

00:46:06.000 And then a year later, everybody's got to do it.

00:46:08.000 Remember, it was just a trial five years ago with transponders taxing people in London.

00:46:12.000 Now they're doing it and taxing you at five, six pounds per weigh.

00:46:16.000 Oh, it's just a trial to make people take satellite systems in their cars that remote control them and call the police when you speed.

00:46:24.000 And now England wants to make it the law.

00:46:27.000 Drivers could have speed limit by satellite devices.

00:46:30.000 It was just a trial in five U.S.

00:46:32.000 airports to have scanners that look through your clothes and record your naked body.

00:46:36.000 Now it's going in 200, all the big, 214, all the major airports, and now they announced yesterday they're going to put it on the streets of America looking through your clothes.

00:46:45.000 I mean, my God!

00:46:46.000 It's just a trial, David!

00:46:49.000 Yeah, it's just a trial.

00:46:50.000 This is what I call the totalitarian tiptoe, although it's not even the totalitarian tiptoe anymore, it's the totalitarian sprint.

00:46:56.000 This is coming in so fast, and this is another point that I would say to people, I did make the point last time we talked, you know, people need to open their minds to the bigger picture of what's behind this too, because when you look at the scale, the interconnected detail of all these different aspects of society and life and Emotion and mind and all of it is being brought into this.

00:47:24.000 You know, it's not a group of dark suited men sitting around a table working this out.

00:47:29.000 There is a vast, vast conspiracy behind this, which is coordinating it all.

00:47:36.000 And George Bush and Barack Obama and Gordon Brown are light years down the pyramid from the level it's coming out of and the scale of technological advancement that is behind it.

00:47:49.000 And we need to open our minds to the fact that, you know, this is above government and it's above the people we see in the public arena.

00:47:57.000 We've got to get really in the shadows before we're going to ever understand what the forces behind this that plays out through these people but doesn't originate with them.

00:48:06.000 Well, we know the tax-free foundations and congressional hearings design, have think tanks for every little aspect.

00:48:13.000 Then they have these literal statistical and organizational geniuses who put it all together.

00:48:18.000 But you're right.

00:48:19.000 Then when you look at it, then you find out they're all a cultist.

00:48:23.000 At the highest level of the pyramid.

00:48:24.000 They're all into blood sacrifice.

00:48:26.000 And we're not making this up, folks.

00:48:28.000 This is mainstream.

00:48:29.000 It comes out here and there. 0.82

00:48:30.000 Richard Nixon talked about the homosexual orgies at Bohemian Grove.

00:48:34.000 That's on tape.

00:48:34.000 Harper's Magazine.

00:48:36.000 I mean, there's a level at the top.

00:48:38.000 They believe they are communicating with entities.

00:48:41.000 And that's where me and David, I mean, David's deep down the rabbit hole.

00:48:44.000 I just go with what I can prove.

00:48:46.000 But bottom line, David Icke on one side, the good guy side, and then the bad guys on the other dark side, They all believe they are under the control of entities.

00:48:57.000 Yeah, and you know, I was talking earlier today about the Rothschilds.

00:49:01.000 Their name used to be called Bauer, and the Bauer family in Europe was a notorious, what they call, occult family.

00:49:10.000 It was deeply into the black magic arts, and of course the black magic is just the negative use of knowledge of how energy and consciousness works.

00:49:20.000 And these people are really behind their banking front and their dark suit and tie front.

00:49:27.000 These people are deep black magicians who, in effect, cast a spell on the human collective mind. 1.00

00:49:33.000 And that's why we talk about people need to wake up from that trance. 0.59

00:49:39.000 Look at all the Hollywood people with Kabbalah all over them.

00:49:43.000 And then we always said 10-15 years ago that Madonna's concerts were rituals.

00:49:49.000 And then she came out two years ago and said, yes, they've always been.

00:49:51.000 These are black magic rituals basically.

00:49:57.000 Yeah, the thing is, we've got a conscious mind, which we obviously are consciously aware of all the time, and we've got a subconscious mind that we're not consciously aware of by definition.

00:50:08.000 And these black magic arts and rituals... They know how to program!

00:50:11.000 ...are linking to the subconscious mind.

00:50:13.000 That's their aim.

00:50:15.000 And it's programming, eventually, as it filters through the conscious mind's perception of reality.

00:50:22.000 And, you know, all these structures like religion and all these institutions of belief and all these rigid belief systems that people have, they're all part of this imposition of a wall around our sense of possibility and our sense of what's happening and the nature they're all part of this imposition of a wall around our sense of

00:50:45.000 And if you can put someone in a mind prison called rigid, unyielding belief...

00:50:52.000 David, stay there, stay there.

00:50:53.000 We've got to break.

00:50:55.000 We've got to talk about themselves.

00:50:57.000 David, you're on a cell phone, aren't you?

00:50:59.000 Mm-hmm.

00:51:00.000 No.

00:51:00.000 Okay, just when I talk, I don't think you can hear me.

00:51:02.000 We had to go to break, but we're still live on the internet, so finish your thought.

00:51:06.000 I just had to cut you off so you could continue, but before you finish up with putting them in that rigid control system, looking at the world, you know, through a straw, so you can hardly see any of it, while it's all, and keep you so close to the problem, you're like, what is this in front of me?

00:51:19.000 I can't tell, but you take that off and pull back.

00:51:22.000 Oh, it's a microphone.

00:51:23.000 There it is.

00:51:24.000 Now I can, oh my gosh, there's a computer right here.

00:51:26.000 There's a light right there.

00:51:27.000 Oh my God.

00:51:29.000 But let me do this.

00:51:30.000 I know you've got to meet that friend, as we had to move your show from yesterday to today.

00:51:33.000 You've got to meet that friend at a half past the next hour.

00:51:36.000 We've got one five-minute segment left, then a one-minute break, and then five more minutes.

00:51:40.000 Let me keep you to five after.

00:51:41.000 Okay, no problem.

00:51:43.000 Okay, fantastic.

00:51:43.000 And then... Yeah, I mean, you know, one day, Alex, we just have to get on this whole thing about reality and how we decode it, because it makes so much sense of why the society is structured as it is.

00:51:53.000 Well, that's what I was going to say, is that You're hard to get a hold of.

00:51:58.000 You're always traveling.

00:51:59.000 You're busy.

00:51:59.000 Let me set you up, because the quickening is happening right now.

00:52:02.000 We can't wait.

00:52:03.000 Let me before you leave, or maybe pull your book out in ten minutes or eight minutes when we're done, and pick a time in like two weeks to come on for two hours.

00:52:14.000 You just tell me, I want to come on now, and then we'll let you have free reign to go into the nature of reality and everything you talk about.

00:52:22.000 Well, the thing is, Alex, I'm speaking in Los Angeles on the 1st, but I'm not leaving America until the 8th.

00:52:29.000 So sometime in that week I could do it in your, you know, in American time.

00:52:33.000 Well, I mean, do this sometime like the 6th or 7th, you know, when you've had a few days rest after the two-day presentation.

00:52:38.000 How about the 5th or something?

00:52:39.000 Well, let's talk about the 6th then.

00:52:41.000 Let's talk about the 6th.

00:52:42.000 6th of October, it's a Monday.

00:52:43.000 Okay, and you're going to be in California then?

00:52:46.000 I'm going to be in California.

00:52:47.000 I'll be in Sacramento, probably.

00:52:48.000 Okay, well, that would mean, then, the show is on 9 to 1 while you're there, and you probably want to come on later.

00:52:55.000 So, I mean, let's just say on the 6th from 11 to 1.

00:53:01.000 Okay, let's do that.

00:53:03.000 That's no problem.

00:53:04.000 Put it in the book.

00:53:04.000 The 6th, 11 to 1.

00:53:06.000 The 6th, 11 to 1.

00:53:07.000 And we will have you on then, sir.

00:53:10.000 I really appreciate you doing that.

00:53:12.000 We're going to go live in the final little ten minutes, or eight minutes that we have with you when we come out of this break.

00:53:19.000 And it's just really great having you on, David.

00:53:21.000 Okay, mate.

00:53:23.000 We're going to be back in about 20 seconds and then just finish up your thoughts so it's congruent and I appreciate everybody out there who's watching on PrisonPlanet.tv, all the behind-the-scenes discussions.

00:53:33.000 You know, this is total transparency now on the show.

00:53:36.000 Literal reality TV because you're seeing behind the scenes.

00:53:39.000 You're seeing what we do, what goes on.

00:53:41.000 Hey, John, let's come in with The Bug's Life again.

00:53:43.000 Just bring in music, fade it down, play The Bug's Life one more time.

00:53:46.000 Here we go.

00:53:49.000 Do it now or become property of the new You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up.

00:54:00.000 Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one. 0.97

00:54:15.000 He did a great talk at Oxford that I've seen.

00:54:17.000 Really shot beautifully.

00:54:19.000 Excellent presentation.

00:54:20.000 Get that DVD at DavidIke.com.

00:54:22.000 Just came out.

00:54:24.000 Really interesting information.

00:54:25.000 Very thought-provoking.

00:54:26.000 That's what matters.

00:54:27.000 Getting you outside the box, then outside the other box, then outside the next box you're in.

00:54:32.000 David, finishing up, you were bringing up, before we went to that break, getting people to take the blinders off, literally, and just open their minds up and what that does.

00:54:45.000 Continue.

00:54:48.000 The ancient Greek philosopher Socrates is quoted as saying, wisdom is knowing how little we know, and I always work with that, because in the vastness of forever, all possibility exists, and if we shut our minds from that by rigid beliefs that construct a limitation of what's possible,

00:55:11.000 We're operating on a fraction of our own potential and also a fraction of the knowledge and awareness that's available of who we are and the nature of what we're experiencing.

00:55:21.000 So it doesn't mean that you open your mind and you say, I'll believe anything.

00:55:25.000 It's quite not that at all, but it's opening to the possibility instead of a reflex action.

00:55:31.000 No, I'm not going there.

00:55:33.000 That can't be true because it's against my belief system.

00:55:36.000 There's this psychological state which explains so much about behavior which is called cognitive dissonance.

00:55:46.000 It's a stress state and an unease state that people go in when their belief and their experience or information they come across are contradicting each other.

00:55:59.000 Now what the few people do is they look at the information and the experience and they say, hold on a second, I've got to have another look at my belief here.

00:56:08.000 Because in the light of what I'm experiencing and seeing, and that is great because cognitive dissonance, it's about bringing the contradictions together into a whole, then you can move forward and your belief changes in the light of new information.

00:56:24.000 But what most people do when they go into this cognitive dissonance state is that their prime motive is to preserve the belief system.

00:56:33.000 That's right.

00:56:34.000 In fact, they have invested, like Bill Hicks said, I put a lot into this ride!

00:56:39.000 Don't you tell me it doesn't matter!

00:56:42.000 Exactly that, and what they then do, and you see this all the time, is they then concoct stories, they lie to themselves, to bring together an explanation of what they're experiencing and seeing and learning, to make sure the belief system is retained.

00:57:00.000 They're delusional!

00:57:00.000 That's when you get things like, oh, no, we've got to go to war to bring peace.

00:57:06.000 Oh, no, we've got to have some of our freedoms taken away so that we can protect our liberties. 0.52

00:57:11.000 This is cognitive dissonance lying to itself or causing people to lie to themselves to protect the belief systems.

00:57:19.000 Belief systems need just to not control us anymore. 0.99

00:57:23.000 Let's look at the evidence.

00:57:24.000 Let's look at what we're seeing and let's come to conclusions based on that.

00:57:28.000 Not preconceived idea that the priest told us or the politician told us or the guy at the college told us.

00:57:34.000 Have you ever seen my film, Terror Storm?

00:57:38.000 Sorry Alex, my phone's gone funny.

00:57:39.000 I didn't hear that.

00:57:40.000 Did you ever see my film, Terror Storm?

00:57:44.000 Because you... Well no, you're still jumping around.

00:57:46.000 Okay.

00:57:46.000 Go to see what's wrong with the line here.

00:57:48.000 Okay, can you hear me, David?

00:57:52.000 No, I'm losing about every other word.

00:57:54.000 I don't know what suddenly made that happen.

00:57:56.000 Okay, well, who knows... I'm catching up.

00:57:59.000 Okay, you can hear me.

00:58:01.000 Have you ever seen my film, Terror Storm?

00:58:04.000 I've looked at it a little bit, yeah.

00:58:06.000 Okay.

00:58:07.000 Well, I mean, there's the part where the woman at the fruit shop outside says, I want to give up my liberty for freedom.

00:58:15.000 And I said, but liberty and freedom are the same thing.

00:58:17.000 She's like, no they're not.

00:58:18.000 So, when you talk about double-think, I want to give up my liberty for freedom.

00:58:23.000 David Icke in the final five-minute segment with him, then Bob Chapman, detailed analysis of the engineered economic implosion that is happening.

00:58:32.000 Stay with us.

00:58:34.000 Alright, I'm going to skip this break, too.

00:58:36.000 It's just one minute.

00:58:37.000 David, we're going to come back in one minute.

00:58:38.000 We'll have five minutes left, and I've got you set for the 6th of October at 11... 11 to 1.

00:58:44.000 Yes, 11 to 1.

00:58:44.000 11 to 1, that's great.

00:58:45.000 11 to 1 Pacific Time.

00:58:50.000 And that'll be from 1 to 3 Central Standard Time, but 11 to 1, and I'm really excited, and we'll just get into whatever you want to cover for two hours.

00:59:00.000 That'll be an hour and a half of live airtime, so you are the best.

00:59:04.000 Yeah, I like to look at reality and how we create it and how we interact with it, because these guys know that, and they could have kept it from us, and that's given them a prime center of power.

00:59:18.000 Absolutely.

00:59:19.000 We're going to go live in about 30 seconds and then I'll just let you go so you can hurry on your way at the end of the segment.

00:59:27.000 I won't say bye.

00:59:28.000 I'll say bye now.

00:59:28.000 Thank you for coming on with us, David.

00:59:30.000 Cheers, Alex.

00:59:31.000 Okay, final segment right now.

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01:00:56.000 David, in closing, you talk about a coming out.

01:00:58.000 They're open about world government, open about the North American Union.

01:01:03.000 Suddenly I'm seeing Rothschilds all over TVs. 1.00

01:01:05.000 The wife of Baron Rothschild was on CNN last night, acting completely wicked. 1.00

01:01:11.000 I mean, the woman just radiated evil, pushing John McCain. 1.00

01:01:15.000 We've got, as if it mattered, we've got major articles here where the the military's come out and said yes regular army will patrol america period and even do police work now in deposit comment on us in the army times and then we have the pope saying ufos are real aliens are real all these governments saying they're real that astronauts coming out and saying i never cover that i mean what what is all this part of what why are they coming out we got three minutes

01:01:45.000 I mean, the bottom line is, you know, when you look at this reality, there's no way that humans are the only form of so-called intelligent life.

01:01:58.000 There obviously are other forms of life that we call extraterrestrials around this universe.

01:02:05.000 However, there is a very clear plan, it would seem to me, to use the threat of some kind of extraterrestrial invasion or extraterrestrial manipulation to justify all the things that they want to introduce.

01:02:23.000 I mean, you're talking about a world army.

01:02:27.000 We must come together to meet this threat.

01:02:29.000 We must come together financially.

01:02:30.000 We must drop borders. 1.00

01:02:31.000 We must have like a war cabinet, if you like.

01:02:34.000 All these things become open to justification once you can sell the idea of a threat from beyond.

01:02:42.000 No, I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's certainly one of the things that I've picked up over the years that has been in the planning ready to be played.

01:02:51.000 It is interesting to me what you said there, because I've noticed it too, how over the years, through the 90s, Any idea of UFOs, extraterrestrial presence, was just dismissed by the authorities by reflex action.

01:03:08.000 All of it.

01:03:08.000 It's a nonsense.

01:03:09.000 There's no evidence.

01:03:10.000 Now, suddenly, there's been a big, big seat change in the way that they're treating this information and the way they're dealing with it.

01:03:17.000 And I think we have to be very, very careful if it comes along that, yes, we're under the threat of some extraterrestrial invasion, because we need to look at that very closely.

01:03:28.000 Well, I agree.

01:03:28.000 I was watching a mainline PBS special about meteorites hitting the Earth and hitting Saturn, Jupiter, and it showed a U.N.

01:03:36.000 conference with Russians and the U.S.

01:03:38.000 and others saying, we could use a threat of an asteroid to unify things for world government.

01:03:43.000 And they said, or that plan for extraterrestrials.

01:03:45.000 So stuff like that leaks out and we know about Blue Beam and other plans.

01:03:50.000 Fake holograms.

01:03:51.000 That's admitted and then suddenly it looks like they may be getting ready.

01:03:55.000 The financial 9-11, the physical 9-11.

01:03:59.000 Will there be an ET 9-11?

01:04:00.000 Who knows?

01:04:03.000 Well, it's certainly a possibility, because we're now, compared with the lives that people have led in the world up to this point, we are in fantasy land now.

01:04:13.000 We're in a realm, in a period, where anything is possible, and all bets are off, and we should not be surprised if anything comes along.

01:04:22.000 What we need to do is not take it on face value, whatever it is, but to look at it dispassionately before we start to make decisions on it.

01:04:32.000 That's right.

01:04:32.000 They're blurring the lines of reality on purpose because they know we're exposing their false reality.

01:04:37.000 They just want to smoke screen it all like a squid with ink so nobody knows what's going on.

01:04:41.000 But we're going to shine a light through that.

01:04:43.000 David Icke, I will talk to you coming up in about a month from now on October 6th.

01:04:49.000 Thank you so much.

01:04:51.000 Take care, my friend.

01:04:52.000 Take care.

01:04:53.000 There he goes.

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01:05:00.000 Yes, sir.

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01:08:05.000 Okay, Bob Chapman joins us for about 40 minutes today.

01:08:17.000 And we've got April Gallup, who was a survivor in the Pentagon.

01:08:20.000 Really suspicious things that happened there.

01:08:23.000 Bob, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, yourself, Joseph Stiklitz, everybody we've had on this show, the New York Business School wonk, They've all said that we could have a depression at any time with what's happening in the last few years, but it would probably happen in 2009, 2010, and we'll continue on out from there.

01:08:44.000 It looks like things are worsening quicker than we thought.

01:08:49.000 On one hand, I have all the IMF and World Bank documents where they admit they want to implode economies, they want bailouts, they need to create a new financial order by collapsing the old one to bring in a world currency.

01:09:02.000 We know they're doing all of that.

01:09:03.000 We know that the real scam now is the bailouts.

01:09:05.000 Hundreds of billions a day, leveraged into the trillions.

01:09:08.000 These are all leveraged 70, 100, 200 times.

01:09:11.000 I see different numbers in the press, probably far worse than that.

01:09:14.000 So I want to get into what the full exposure is, where the steepening crisis is going, gold exploding.

01:09:20.000 Last time I checked it was up like a hundred bucks from two days ago.

01:09:24.000 They say the biggest one-time rise for gold ever.

01:09:28.000 All of this happening, on the heels of them driving down oil and gold and other commodities, jacking up the dollar, now the dollar plunging, where Bob Chapman thinks all of this is For those who don't know who he is, he is TheInternationalForecaster.com.

01:09:43.000 He's had one of the biggest newsletters in the world, one of the biggest gold and silver brokers ever, worked in military intelligence before that, and has been spot on with his analysis.

01:09:54.000 So, I mean, Bob, we know this is contrived, but you and a few others say, well, they did want to contrive this, but now they've lost control, which I don't know what's more, you know, which is scarier.

01:10:07.000 Bob Chapman, thanks for coming on.

01:10:09.000 Well, thanks for having me again, and it's all scary, because it's all going to end up in the same place sooner or later, and it's not going to be nice.

01:10:18.000 As far as gold's concerned, yesterday it was up in the outside market $87.30, and it was higher earlier, and today it's trading up around $50.

01:10:29.000 And, you know, we said in the forecast that we felt once gold bottomed at $7.75 approximately, that It would be the fourth test of that area.

01:10:42.000 And when it went up, it would go up in a straight line quickly.

01:10:46.000 And we've been proven to be correct again.

01:10:50.000 And one of the things that the charters are missing is that there's an inverse, a reverse, head and shoulders pattern.

01:10:58.000 And not to get into any detail, it's very bullish.

01:11:03.000 And we could go straight right up.

01:11:05.000 It's trading around $900 right now.

01:11:06.000 Yeah, it's $895.60 at spot, up $32.70 today, after going up around $80 yesterday.

01:11:08.000 So what's $32.80, but over $112 in less than 24 hours?

01:11:10.000 And it just shows you that the market was manipulated and they couldn't continue to control it.

01:11:15.000 $80 yesterday, so what's 32 and 80, but over $112 in less than 24 hours.

01:11:24.000 And it just shows you that the market was manipulated and they couldn't continue to control it.

01:11:29.000 And we had predicted that, and that's what happened.

01:11:32.000 Now, what I see in there right now is I see the commercials are starting to do some shorting.

01:11:39.000 And essentially, for all intents and purposes, even though the contracts out on the short side are about $95,000, that's normal.

01:11:47.000 And so they're looking for places to short.

01:11:49.000 Hey Bob, Bob, dumb it down because I study this all the time and I barely follow you.

01:11:53.000 I mean, dumb it down for people.

01:11:54.000 Explain what's going on and then give us the gold perspective.

01:11:58.000 Then let's get into the wider economy, you know, the real economy versus the banking economy.

01:12:04.000 And if you're changing your prognosis from the country will be dead from cancer in two years financially or will it be dead in six months?

01:12:13.000 Well, dumbing it down, when you short a stock or short a metal or short anything, you're betting it's going to go down.

01:12:22.000 And professionals are always on the opposite side of the market.

01:12:26.000 The public goes on the long side and they buy something hoping it's going to go up.

01:12:31.000 The professionals, their mindset is to figure out when they should bet that it's going to go down.

01:12:38.000 And I see them in doing a little betting in here that it's going to go down.

01:12:43.000 And I see shorting, and that's natural, and that's okay. 1.00

01:12:47.000 Because they were short before, and when gold went down, they came in and bought their shorts back in.

01:12:54.000 And when they did that, they stabilized gold, which turned out very well for people who were long gold, because it stopped the correction.

01:13:02.000 And anyway, we're headed up.

01:13:04.000 I'm sure that the government's going to try to step in again to stop gold and silver, platinum, palladium from moving higher.

01:13:11.000 I'm sure they're trying to keep oil down this morning.

01:13:15.000 At $3.30, oil was up $2.40.

01:13:17.000 Now it's down $0.70.

01:13:18.000 And so then they're in the markets working all the time, and it's very difficult to make decisions except on a long-term basis.

01:13:27.000 So where's gold, gold, and silver going?

01:13:30.000 They're going higher.

01:13:31.000 As far as what's going to happen, as far as the timing on things getting much worse than they are already, and they are bad now, again, everything takes more time than people think.

01:13:48.000 And I'm still looking out two and a half years or so, and there would have to be something extraordinary that would happen to change that.

01:13:59.000 And what could that be?

01:14:02.000 Perhaps some event that nobody had expected within the financial sphere to happen, and then It would send everything awry, and then send the financial part of our system down, and that would bring on depression, and probably a lot of other things.

01:14:24.000 And so, in the absence of that, we have to deal with what we can generally see in the future.

01:14:33.000 And so I expect that that will be the time frame.

01:14:38.000 What's going on now, as you pointed out, Before on the program is that we have the United States government, now the Treasury, and the Federal Reserve, privately owned, which are acting as conduits to keep the entire economy from collapsing.

01:14:58.000 That's really the bottom line on it.

01:15:01.000 And the Fed's in the repo market injecting in a two-day period $120 billion.

01:15:07.000 They've got other central banks doing the same thing.

01:15:11.000 That aggregates something like $160 billion.

01:15:16.000 We still have the discount window open to the banks.

01:15:20.000 We don't know what they're doing right now, because everything is a secret.

01:15:25.000 And then we have the auctions.

01:15:27.000 They're running $200 billion plus a month.

01:15:30.000 And then we have, on top of that, the repo market.

01:15:35.000 The M3, as it used to be called.

01:15:38.000 It's probably running somewhere between 14 and 15 percent right now.

01:15:42.000 Inflation is still sticking at 13 and 5 eighths percent.

01:15:47.000 Long-term unemployment is 14 and 7 eighths percent.

01:15:51.000 All the indicators are towards degenerative process within the economic structure, not only in the United States, but the world.

01:16:01.000 Degeneration of the financial system as well.

01:16:06.000 And continued interference by government and central banks in that process, which is going to cause horrendous inflation.

01:16:17.000 And that's why we see gold exploding.

01:16:22.000 It really should be up at around $3,000 now for the amount of money and liquidity they've issued.

01:16:28.000 We're dealing with, conservatively, hundreds of trillions leveraged into God knows what thousands of trillions.

01:16:35.000 We've got Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, $50-something trillion, saying $5 trillion of it's in big trouble.

01:16:41.000 But then we know that's been sold in securities over and over again and leveraged over and over again.

01:16:47.000 And they bought up most of the real assets by doing this, and now they're positioning themselves for the IMF World Bank riot, as they call it, the breakdown of the economy.

01:16:58.000 Northcom has announced that they will have regular army patrolling the streets of America, just randomly, wherever they want.

01:17:06.000 They're training multiple brigades for this.

01:17:10.000 It's just they're pulling out all the stops, Bob.

01:17:13.000 And then Paulson was in Bloomberg, on Bloomberg TV, and I've got the article right here.

01:17:19.000 And said, Congress, a few congressmen said, hey, don't we get say in hundreds of billions a day being given to these banks?

01:17:27.000 Brokers firms in the impulse have said, no, it's a contract and you're not involved.

01:17:31.000 The executive runs this and the Federal Reserve runs this, which is private.

01:17:35.000 And Congress, you know what?

01:17:37.000 They sat down and they shut up.

01:17:39.000 I mean, for anybody that knows the Bill of Rights, Constitution, Declaration of Independence, anybody that knows Congress does the funding, that's their authority.

01:17:46.000 I mean, to see PDD 51, Bob, implemented in monetary policy, which is what it says in there, it says for economic or any other crisis, my God, I mean, this is open dictatorship by the banking elite, and now they're rolling the Ponzi scheme into the next level, saying the new thing will be a world carbon tax, regionally and locally on us, distributed and controlled internationally, the different geopolitical sectors feeding back into the global corporate structure that nests in every capital.

01:18:15.000 I mean, this is just hellish looting that's going on, and I guess the only place where we somewhat disagree is you're saying they've lost control.

01:18:23.000 This looks like a controlled feeding frenzy.

01:18:26.000 I mean, do sharks get in feeding frenzies and bite each other and, you know, attack smaller sharks?

01:18:31.000 Yes, but, I mean, you've said this thing was engineered in the past.

01:18:36.000 I mean, why are you saying it's, well, I mean, first comment on the Paulson situation, just saying, you know what, Congress, sit down and shut up, and they did.

01:18:45.000 Yeah, well that's because they're paid off, most of them.

01:18:48.000 And they do that through campaign contributions and other things.

01:18:52.000 And that's why I continue to say clear Congress, except for Ron Paul.

01:18:57.000 They get rid of them and start over again.

01:19:00.000 Because if you don't, you're going to have the same problem and we're going to lose, lose, lose.

01:19:04.000 And yes, that's what Paulson is telling Congress. 0.99

01:19:07.000 You know, sit down and shut up. 0.97

01:19:09.000 But that's been going on for some time. 0.91

01:19:12.000 but more blatantly lately, lately within the last year or two, because things are getting far more difficult within the economic and financial spheres.

01:19:24.000 In fact, I have quotes here from the leader of the House and the Senate, and they're saying, we don't even know what's going on.

01:19:31.000 I'll read the quotes after we come back from break.

01:19:33.000 We don't even know what's going on.

01:19:35.000 We don't even understand.

01:19:39.000 We don't know what to do.

01:19:40.000 We'll just do whatever you say.

01:19:41.000 I mean, just totally compliant.

01:19:44.000 Whatever the private bankers say, you run everything.

01:19:46.000 Now, this is all contrived.

01:19:47.000 This is engineered.

01:19:48.000 This implosion, just like what Rothschild did in 1815, is being engineered.

01:19:52.000 Let's skip the break for InfoWars.com.

01:19:56.000 I mean, Bob, flesh that out.

01:19:58.000 Why are you saying they've lost control?

01:20:00.000 I mean, I know they're saying that, but I mean, you see a lot of control here, and vertical integration, massive consolidation of the international structure right now.

01:20:11.000 I believe by design, and a lot of others believe by design.

01:20:14.000 Even Stiklitz says they've done this by design.

01:20:16.000 In other cases, he doesn't know if this is by design.

01:20:19.000 He's been out of the IMF World Bank for seven years.

01:20:22.000 I mean, what say you ye on that?

01:20:25.000 Well, I think it's controlled chaos, but only controlled to a degree at this time.

01:20:32.000 What it'll evolve in, eventually, is collapse.

01:20:35.000 Now the question is, can they control the people of the world during the collapse period?

01:20:41.000 And that's why they're doing what they're doing with Northern Command and bringing troops in and things like that.

01:20:50.000 They think that they can control it by using American, perhaps even other forces.

01:20:55.000 And that is their goal because what they've been trying to do is a mess.

01:21:02.000 And they're trying to do the best they can to control the collapse.

01:21:07.000 And that's why it looks like it's working the way you just described for them.

01:21:12.000 In other words, the consolidation is working and they're doing what they can.

01:21:16.000 But in the end, it's still going to collapse.

01:21:19.000 And then I guess we'll be a banana republic ruled by Northcom?

01:21:24.000 Exactly.

01:21:25.000 Unless the people use the 450 million weapons that they've got in America and say, look, we don't want that. 0.99

01:21:32.000 And if the troops do not lay down their weapons, we're going to kill them all.

01:21:36.000 Well, the Declaration of Independence says it's not only our right, it's our sacred duty, but through cognitive dissonance, people think it's... I mean, they say, do whatever.

01:21:44.000 Let them take your children, go to FEMA camps, line up in dishes. 0.83

01:21:48.000 There is no moral right to resist any action of criminal government.

01:21:52.000 And now it's not even government.

01:21:53.000 The Federal Reserve openly just says, sit down... I mean, I've got the quotes here.

01:21:56.000 Sit down, shut up, And it's now, like you said, you might be right, they might have lost control because it really is reaching a la-la land proportion.

01:22:06.000 And now they're recalling brigades from Iraq, which we knew they were gearing up for, but I mean, see, well how did they know the eventuality of the collapse of the economy then to have troops for that? 0.97

01:22:17.000 As they say, they say for economic collapse and dealing with Americans, and it says, you know, they hope they won't have to shoot us.

01:22:24.000 That's in the Army Times.

01:22:25.000 We hope.

01:22:26.000 I mean, now the Army Times is saying, we hope we don't have to shoot you.

01:22:30.000 I mean, they're really, I guess because they have to be brazen and out in the open so the troops go, well, it's in the Army Times.

01:22:36.000 I mean, you know, I guess.

01:22:37.000 Well, there's the flip side to that.

01:22:40.000 I hope we don't get killed in the process because they get more weapons than we have.

01:22:45.000 I mean, we could field 35 million adults.

01:22:49.000 I mean, how many are they going to field? 500,000?

01:22:54.000 Well, I mean, I just can't... I mean, literally, the U.S.

01:22:56.000 Army is now invading the United States.

01:23:00.000 Ahead of economic collapse.

01:23:02.000 God help us. 1.00

01:23:03.000 Look what these bastards have done, Bob. 1.00

01:23:05.000 I just can't believe it. 1.00

01:23:06.000 I mean, we've been knowing... I can't either, Ben.

01:23:08.000 Even as long as I've been associated with it, I didn't think it would get this far, and it has.

01:23:15.000 Well, we'll come back and talk about that, because that's what blows my mind, is that even if you consciously, intellectually, coldly analyze the facts, and then this answer pops out of total tyranny, martial law, they state that.

01:23:30.000 It's not our opinion.

01:23:31.000 It's not even our analysis. 1.00

01:23:32.000 They just say it to see it unfolding, to see them doing it, to understand that they're just going for broke, and they've got a bunch of right-head idiots that are going to follow them right to hell! 1.00

01:23:45.000 And I just can't believe it! 1.00

01:23:48.000 Okay, Bob, here we go.

01:23:48.000 God help us.

01:23:50.000 I want you to speak about that.

01:23:50.000 Here we go.

01:23:52.000 Today.

01:23:52.000 Yeah, we've known this was coming for a long time.

01:24:02.000 It's all public government documents declassified, martial law, tyranny, breaking up families, forced inoculations, people living in communal skyscrapers under police control.

01:24:11.000 That's the plan.

01:24:13.000 One-child policies.

01:24:14.000 That's the bare minimum.

01:24:16.000 And they wanted to have economic implosion, but Bob is saying, and many other analysts say, it got out of control.

01:24:21.000 The pyramid Ponzi thing they built and the crooks they hired to run it, the kind of mid-level managers even got out of control.

01:24:27.000 And so now the whole thing is in jeopardy, which is even more dangerous in a way.

01:24:31.000 But it shows they're not invincible.

01:24:33.000 And maybe you're right, Bob, but regardless, we know what the final outcome is.

01:24:36.000 Northcom coming out and announcing they're going to field troops against the American people for insurrection.

01:24:41.000 Ahead of it, they know what they're doing is so bad, people are going to resist. 0.99

01:24:46.000 Just God help us, you traitors! 0.80

01:24:49.000 Bob, what do you say to the military? 0.97

01:24:50.000 What do you say to the police?

01:24:52.000 What do you say to everybody about this?

01:24:53.000 It's not like we just started this week saying this.

01:24:55.000 We've been saying this for decades, and now it's all happening.

01:24:59.000 Well, I think as far as the police are concerned, I think they have to be informed that they really don't want to be on the other side, because they don't stand a chance.

01:25:07.000 And even if they moved a half a million troops out of Iraq, which they don't have there, Or from other places in the world, into the United States, they wouldn't stand a chance.

01:25:17.000 I mean, you can easily arm, which the people have already got the weapons, 45 million male adults in America.

01:25:24.000 I mean, sure, the kill ratio might be great, but the other guys can't win.

01:25:29.000 So, the military has got to think about all being exterminated, but just by numbers.

01:25:36.000 I mean, even with a 20 to 1 kill ratio, they still can't win.

01:25:40.000 And a lot of these people who have weapons in America are veterans.

01:25:44.000 I'm one of them.

01:25:45.000 You know, I'm a crack shot. 0.73

01:25:46.000 I can make kills at a thousand yards.

01:25:48.000 Well, let's boil it down.

01:25:49.000 Let's say 1%.

01:25:51.000 Of a hundred million gun owners.

01:25:52.000 We know it's higher than that, but a hundred million.

01:25:55.000 Because when pollers call people, a lot of folks won't say they have a gun, because they're smart.

01:26:00.000 If we have one percent of a million fight back, that's a million combatants.

01:26:05.000 And I don't even want this, folks.

01:26:06.000 I mean, they're saying they're going to use Mexican and Canadian troops.

01:26:10.000 It was public a decade ago, but they signed the deal last year in Canada.

01:26:14.000 No, in January of 2008, nine months ago.

01:26:18.000 And Congress, a few Congressmen said, Well, you're not authorized by Congress.

01:26:23.000 I mean, they used to have to commission an officer, folks.

01:26:25.000 Congress used to be in control!

01:26:27.000 So the President couldn't be a dictator!

01:26:29.000 And they just said, you know what?

01:26:30.000 We'll use Canadian and Mexican troops for insurrection in the U.S. 0.98

01:26:34.000 during any emergency, including economic, and that's it! 0.99

01:26:37.000 Shut up! 1.00

01:26:38.000 And now Paulson tells Congress, shut up! 1.00

01:26:41.000 I mean, this is open! 0.99

01:26:42.000 They are insurrecting against our Republic!

01:26:44.000 I want to make that clear!

01:26:46.000 This is illegal, what you're doing.

01:26:48.000 It's our duty to take them out.

01:26:49.000 Bob, you never used to talk like this.

01:26:54.000 And, I mean, as a veteran, as somebody who fought against the Russians in intelligence operations, what do you think the other people in government are saying?

01:27:01.000 Or are they just total ne'er-do-wells?

01:27:03.000 Well, I think they're as terrified as we are.

01:27:06.000 We wouldn't be talking this way if we weren't really terrified about the ramifications of this.

01:27:11.000 And I do programs that are devoted directly to military people, and we discuss this all the time on these programs.

01:27:20.000 And I tell them, And I said, I say, spread the word.

01:27:24.000 These men are all over the world.

01:27:26.000 You do not want to attack the American public.

01:27:30.000 That is, that is an order.

01:27:32.000 If you're given that order, that order is illegal.

01:27:36.000 And you have to challenge it.

01:27:39.000 I mean, we saw the Nuremberg war crimes trials and the excuse was, well, you know, if we didn't do it, they'd shoot us.

01:27:46.000 Well, you're not supposed to do it.

01:27:49.000 And so, The military knows what's going on.

01:27:52.000 And they're very, very concerned because they don't want to get involved in that.

01:27:56.000 The idea is to defend America, not to police Americans or shoot them.

01:28:01.000 And they're good people.

01:28:06.000 I don't know what this is going to come to, but I do know this.

01:28:09.000 If it comes to that, the people will win.

01:28:12.000 They'll pay a terrible price.

01:28:14.000 Well, I'll tell you what's going to happen, Bob.

01:28:15.000 The government will be wiped out.

01:28:17.000 Yeah, I want you to get more into what this will come to in a moment, then back into gold in the final segment coming up.

01:28:22.000 But right now, the problem is they will have provocateurs, who they allow to escape, attack military groups on video to then demonize anyone resisting the troops.

01:28:33.000 They're also training, like you do with dog training, when you train a dog to attack, on dummies.

01:28:40.000 And they're saying they're going to fight crime, fight terror, fight rioters, and help with the jaws of life, get people out of cars.

01:28:49.000 And it says they're just going to show up and the military is going to do it as kind of a PR thing.

01:28:52.000 So they're going to phase this in with PSYOP.

01:28:56.000 But I still don't think that's going to work, Bob.

01:28:58.000 But I mean, you get the angle I'm going with here?

01:29:01.000 Yes, I do.

01:29:02.000 And one of the reasons it's not going to work is because of your program and programs like yours That are discussing this in the air, both sides of the situation, why we don't want it to happen, but why it probably or might happen, and what to do under those circumstances.

01:29:20.000 This is what democracy is about.

01:29:22.000 You're not going to get it, of course, on the major media, but just by the fact that we're discussing this is extraordinarily important.

01:29:32.000 Well, the government and the criminals running it are not invincible, and these mercenaries are going to turn and run.

01:29:38.000 And yes, folks, it's a serious probability this is going to happen.

01:29:41.000 We're going to skip this segment, too.

01:29:44.000 Okay, Bob, I'm going to keep you until about 40 after.

01:29:47.000 Right now, continue getting into what I interrupted there with what you're saying, you know, how this will unfold if it does go into a shooting war, some of the different scenarios.

01:29:59.000 Well, it's been a long time since I was in the military.

01:30:04.000 But you know, you'll have a false flag sort of thing.

01:30:08.000 And like you said, they will perform attacks on troops and things like that.

01:30:14.000 But I think perhaps because there's so much going on, I think we've got to slide back into the economy.

01:30:21.000 I think that the people have heard enough here about Those sort of things.

01:30:27.000 We know, we've discussed them before.

01:30:29.000 Okay, well, we've got three of the big five banks, brokerage firms going under.

01:30:35.000 We've got hundreds of billions a day being pumped in with interest on the American people's backs, trillions total.

01:30:43.000 We have all of this stuff unfolding.

01:30:46.000 Then, let's talk about, I mean, you're saying two, three years until this really goes into depression.

01:30:50.000 Are you saying depression is 100% now?

01:30:54.000 In all probability, it is 100%.

01:30:55.000 That is 100%.

01:30:57.000 It was guess and projection based upon what we saw fundamentally economically and financially as well.

01:31:08.000 I mean, is this not worsening?

01:31:09.000 I mean, from your projection or your forecast, this deepened quicker than most people thought.

01:31:16.000 I mean, this is definitely catastrophic, is it not?

01:31:19.000 I mean, I know you're saying it'll take a while to unfold and extrapolate and unwind, but I mean, does this mean when it unwinds it's going to be that much worse?

01:31:28.000 Yes.

01:31:29.000 And you know, it's just like the early 1930s.

01:31:31.000 Only it's far worse.

01:31:33.000 Because we had a solvent government, we had a positive trade balance, we had gold-backed currency.

01:31:42.000 So today, and nobody had credit cards of course, and today we have all kinds of debt which didn't exist at that time.

01:31:49.000 And that's probably the major factor.

01:31:52.000 Not only individual, but corporate.

01:31:54.000 Look at our government, I don't have to go into it.

01:31:56.000 And so these companies that we're using Tremendous leverage, as you spoke of earlier.

01:32:05.000 They're getting caught with their pants down.

01:32:07.000 And they're proposing and arranging all of these mergers so that some of these companies can get together and survive.

01:32:17.000 And yes, we've just lost Fannie and Freddie and Lehman and Bear Stearns before that.

01:32:23.000 And now they're talking about a Washington Mutual and Wachovia and Even, goodness gracious, Goldman Sachs.

01:32:33.000 And at the same time, they're calling all over the country, demanding that these large pensions and institutions stop lending their stock to people who are shorting the market.

01:32:48.000 Now, that is totally illegal.

01:32:50.000 I mean, there's no way you could legalize that.

01:32:53.000 And what they're saying is, let's... Hold on, Bob.

01:32:56.000 Here we go.

01:32:56.000 Bob, here we go to the full audience.

01:32:59.000 Alex Jones Show, because there's a war on for your mind.

01:33:08.000 Bob Chapman, over and over again the last few years, well I've been interviewing you since 2000, but over and over again the last few years.

01:33:16.000 You talked about naked shorts and short selling and how these brokerage firms are taking the hundreds of billions a day being given to them by the Federal Reserve, the private Federal Reserve, our money, on our name, and they're still leveraging and shorting and pulling scams and games.

01:33:33.000 Explain that to people, for those that don't understand, until finally, yesterday, the Treasury saying, oh, well, we may change rules to restrict this, but that only means on the low level people, doesn't it?

01:33:45.000 It's more selective enforcement.

01:33:47.000 So, A, break down how those little financial scams work, how they are illegal.

01:33:53.000 And they're saying, well, we're now going to enforce what is illegal.

01:33:58.000 And then, where do you see this going?

01:34:01.000 Well, first of all, I don't think they're going to enforce it.

01:34:04.000 I'll wait and see.

01:34:06.000 I noticed Mr. McCain call for the resignation of Mr. Cox as head of the SEC.

01:34:12.000 The SEC has been a handmaiden to Wall Street for years.

01:34:17.000 They never go after any crooks on Wall Street.

01:34:19.000 They only go after the people who they think might be crooks in the middle-sized and small brokerage houses and attack people who write newsletters like me.

01:34:31.000 Cook up all these spurious schemes to make it look like they're doing something when the people at the major firms have been running rampant for years.

01:34:40.000 Now, with that said, we have a situation where they've said no more naked short-selling.

01:34:51.000 And I'm not going to go in and describe how that's done.

01:34:53.000 It's just that it's illegal.

01:34:55.000 Then, we just saw here on CNBC today That the government is calling up the people who run the pension and profit sharing funds and telling them not to lend their stock to people who want to borrow it in order to go short.

01:35:14.000 No, that's illegal.

01:35:15.000 You can't do that.

01:35:16.000 The government can't do that.

01:35:19.000 I mean, you may as well just shut down all the markets.

01:35:22.000 Because this thing, we don't want the financial stocks to go down or anything else to go down because we want to live happily ever after.

01:35:30.000 What they're not telling you is they've been rigging the markets since 1988.

01:35:34.000 They've been rigging them in a big way for the last 10 years, and they want to continue doing so, so people won't know what's going on.

01:35:43.000 And so, the next step is the merger of the firms that have been out there, leveraged 100 to 1, or raiding AAA paper, which is BBB, and scamming even other bankers.

01:35:57.000 I mean, the Europeans are furious. 0.99

01:35:59.000 Sitting with 48% of the toxic garbage. 1.00

01:36:03.000 And probably another... 0.99

01:36:05.000 10% is in Asia and the rest of it is in America.

01:36:08.000 And now they're saying it's all going to be re-rated, but the insurance firms that rate it have been caught in all the fraud.

01:36:13.000 The accounting firms have been caught in the fraud, like Arthur Anderson.

01:36:16.000 We're having Enron-level implosions every hour, forget every day.

01:36:21.000 All of this is going on, and there's no talk of investigations, no talk of indictments.

01:36:26.000 In fact, they're talking about basically just giving immunity to the top bankers to just do whatever they want.

01:36:32.000 You're absolutely correct.

01:36:34.000 And that's where they're scrambling.

01:36:37.000 That's where it's out of control.

01:36:39.000 And they're trying to bring about a controlled collapse.

01:36:43.000 So that they can control it when we get on the bottom, wherever that is.

01:36:47.000 And so they're merging companies together.

01:36:50.000 A good example today.

01:36:52.000 They want to merge together Wachovia Bank, which has a modicum of problems.

01:36:57.000 And I would say, on a scale of 10, their problems are probably a 5.

01:37:04.000 They want to merge it with Morgan Stanley, whose problems are probably a two or a three.

01:37:13.000 And so the reason they're doing that is not because they're worried about Morgan Stanley.

01:37:20.000 They're worried about Wachovia. 0.80

01:37:22.000 And so that's why they want to bring the two of them together.

01:37:25.000 And Wachovia can, along with Morgan Stanley, generate The capital flow that's necessary to keep them in business.

01:37:35.000 And that's what they're up to.

01:37:36.000 But I will say this, and I've said it before on the program, you're safer in the brokerage house than you are in the bank.

01:37:44.000 Because the accounts in the brokerage house are insured for $500,000 and more.

01:37:49.000 And at the bank you're covered for $100,000 and that's it.

01:37:51.000 And now a whole bunch of analysts, I mean it's all over the news, so many sources, are saying a thousand banks are going to fail.

01:38:00.000 Up from just a hundred.

01:38:02.000 Yeah, but we had a prominent individual say, by the time this is over, over 4,000 banks will fail.

01:38:11.000 And they will.

01:38:12.000 I mean, I've got a list right now that was sent to me this morning that I'm printing as an addendum to the International Forecaster when it goes out, and sadly, it's going to take up a lot of space, but I'm going to do it anyway.

01:38:24.000 It's a whole list of banks that have problems, where their ratings have been dropped.

01:38:29.000 And I can't even remember who sent it to me, but thank you very much.

01:38:33.000 We get stuff like this from all over the world.

01:38:37.000 Internal stuff.

01:38:38.000 Every day.

01:38:39.000 Bob, do me a favor.

01:38:40.000 Will you send that to... Will you add Aaron at InfoWars.com?

01:38:45.000 That's his email, but I also look at it a couple times a day.

01:38:47.000 Will you send me a copy of that?

01:38:49.000 Hold on one second.

01:38:51.000 Aaron, A-A-A-R-R?

01:38:53.000 Yeah, it's two A's.

01:38:56.000 A-A-R-O-N. 1.00

01:38:58.000 Yep.

01:38:58.000 At InfoWars.com.

01:39:03.000 I'd already get the forecaster, but then my email is so clogged, I have to look around for it.

01:39:07.000 But please give me that.

01:39:08.000 Folks, you can subscribe and get a free copy at TheInternationalForecaster.com, or you can also go there and pay for one and get it twice a week, or you can call and get the hard copy.

01:39:18.000 Now, Bob, in just a few minutes we've got left with you today.

01:39:23.000 And as this develops, I may have to get you on every day if you can do it because there's so much happening for your little quick ten minute blurbs.

01:39:29.000 I want to talk about gold and kind of recap what we've seen it do the last two days, what this means, how they tried to suppress it, what this failure to suppress it means.

01:39:39.000 If you think it will go back down again before it goes back up or if this is the final suppression before it goes where it should be at 28.

01:39:47.000 Well, you give me a lot more credit.

01:39:48.000 I am not a soothsayer, but look at this.

01:39:49.000 devaluation from 1980 numbers.

01:39:52.000 Give me a few minutes on gold, and then a few minutes just on any other key areas people need to know about.

01:39:58.000 Well, you give me a lot more credit.

01:40:01.000 I am not a soothsayer, but look at this.

01:40:03.000 They deliberately drove gold down because they knew these problems were coming, and they figured if we get it down, it's going to go back up again, but it'll go back up again from a lower level.

01:40:14.000 And so that's what they were up to.

01:40:15.000 Now, can they do it again?

01:40:17.000 They can attempt to do it again.

01:40:19.000 They can do it through derivatives in the futures market.

01:40:22.000 But how much gold do they have left, they being the central banks?

01:40:26.000 Nobody knows.

01:40:27.000 They lie about everything.

01:40:29.000 How much do I think they've got left?

01:40:31.000 Somewhere between zero and 5,000 tons.

01:40:34.000 That's it.

01:40:35.000 That's all they've got left.

01:40:37.000 The rest of it is in private hands.

01:40:39.000 I mean, just in August alone, and this is before the season, of the two holidays in India.

01:40:46.000 In August alone, people in India bought more gold than they did in the first seven months of the year.

01:40:52.000 I mean, they can't buy it fast enough.

01:40:54.000 Look, let's put it in layman's terms.

01:40:56.000 You've got the elite with the tens of trillions of false currency and credit they made, because they know that's going to suddenly be worthless, grabbing everything for the last ten years they can get with the fiat currency and leaving us with the debt on our backs and our children's backs.

01:41:12.000 A debt that could never be paid back, but at gunpoint, the military isn't trying to make you pay it back.

01:41:16.000 To them, when they did the robbery.

01:41:17.000 Their bosses did.

01:41:20.000 And so now the elite keep trying to suppress gold, but because all the elites and the populations want gold, it is, in reality, running low and hard to get, so is silver, and so they can only hold down the beach ball ten feet underwater so long, and when you finally let go of the beach ball, it's going to shoot straight up and go up even higher.

01:41:38.000 I mean, is that a good way of putting it?

01:41:40.000 Absolutely.

01:41:41.000 And what we have here with this technical formation is it should go right back up, right through $900, and it should go back up and test $1033 where it was earlier in the year.

01:41:53.000 And then it will be broken.

01:41:55.000 We need to get up to somewhere between $2,700 to $3,000 to meet the official inflation rate since 1980.

01:41:59.000 And that will be a threshold.

01:42:01.000 inflation rate since 1980 and that will be a threshold and then the question is how much was real inflation Real!

01:42:13.000 Not the government figures since 1980.

01:42:15.000 And of course, we're looking at $6,000 or $7,000.

01:42:19.000 Now, for those who don't know, these guys, the enemy, are buying gold.

01:42:24.000 I promise you.

01:42:24.000 Even though they run it down, when they do, they run in there and buy it for themselves.

01:42:28.000 When all the central banks were selling, they were, in part, the buyers.

01:42:35.000 Well, I know that's come out in some of the press reports that the elites are snatching it.

01:42:40.000 So are third world populations. 0.99

01:42:41.000 They're not stupid. 0.99

01:42:42.000 The Russians, the folks in the stands, the Indians, the Chinese, the Japanese are snatching metals up. 0.99

01:42:49.000 Because, folks, you don't go buy some fancy jewelry that has two, three times markup in it.

01:42:54.000 You buy the raw metal because you can get it as close as possible Yes it is, and it's just a question of when.

01:43:02.000 i wouldn't have a little investing all the most i believe that and that's why i've been saying last few weeks folks is going to go back up to go back up there's no way with market fundamentals with trillions of dollars a week leverage ended lord knows what as you said it's all secret uh...

01:43:16.000 being guaranteed to these bankers and it's in our name i mean how long until the dollars toilet paper i mean that's a guarantee now in the bob yes it is and it's just a question of one minute it's down the line and so you're buying gold cheap And that's why you should be getting yourself into gold and silver-related assets.

01:43:36.000 The first place to start is with gold coins.

01:43:39.000 Silver coins.

01:43:41.000 And for those of you who have lots of money and can take risks, well, you can buy the shares as well.

01:43:48.000 And it's very important that you get involved.

01:43:51.000 Because if you don't, your assets are going to diminuate in value.

01:43:55.000 And this will keep you even by having your investment In gold and silver during the hyperinflationary period.

01:44:01.000 That's right.

01:44:02.000 They can't hide the 15% inflation conservatively.

01:44:06.000 Some areas it's even higher.

01:44:07.000 They can't hide that forever.

01:44:09.000 And for the election they drove down oil for a while.

01:44:11.000 But the bottom line here is this inflation is compounding each year.

01:44:16.000 It's adding on, stacking on top of the last year.

01:44:19.000 And inflation has a way of telescoping, doesn't it Bob, historically?

01:44:23.000 That you're really going to suddenly start feeling it.

01:44:26.000 Not on a monthly or yearly basis, but a weekly basis, and then a daily basis, until all confidence is lost in the currency.

01:44:35.000 And that's what's happening, or beginning to happen now.

01:44:38.000 You know, I predicted, because I've seen it before, 50 and 100 dollar days where gold is up and gold is down as well.

01:44:46.000 We're going to go into a very volatile market, and it will not be unusual for a 50 dollar upswing in gold for the day.

01:44:55.000 And that might go on for three or four days at a time.

01:44:58.000 People will be in a flight to quality.

01:45:01.000 They've got to understand that all the currencies in the world are suspect.

01:45:05.000 They are all fiat.

01:45:08.000 That's right, and loss of respect for one will spread to others.

01:45:13.000 In closing, Bob, I really appreciate you coming on.

01:45:16.000 I want you to pop back in maybe tomorrow, certainly next week.

01:45:20.000 We appreciate it.

01:45:20.000 Well, just tell me the time, and don't forget we have a A number for people to come in on to get a free copy of the International Forecast.

01:45:30.000 So that's 877-479-8178.

01:45:33.000 That's 877-479-8178, and they can get a free copy.

01:45:41.000 Absolutely.

01:45:42.000 Well, Bob, I appreciate you spending time with us, and we'll talk to you soon.

01:45:46.000 Thank you very much.

01:45:47.000 Bye-bye.

01:45:47.000 There he goes.

01:45:50.000 Gold is up $35 today, still rising.

01:45:55.000 Still rising.

01:45:57.000 The graph goes like this.

01:46:00.000 And so it's going up gradually.

01:46:02.000 And it went up right at $80 yesterday and $35.

01:46:06.000 $80 and $35.

01:46:06.000 That's just amazing.

01:46:07.000 and 35 80 and 35 that's just amazing that's $115.10 rise in 24 hours wow Bottom line, ladies and gentlemen, I told you on Monday it was a buying opportunity at $7.79.

01:46:29.000 And I said, I can't believe it hasn't gone up yet.

01:46:33.000 I mean, the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, this is all in the dollars back.

01:46:38.000 This is la-la land. 0.92

01:46:40.000 This is like trying to hold a beach ball underwater.

01:46:42.000 You ever try to do that?

01:46:42.000 Try to really push it down like five feet under the water?

01:46:46.000 This is a beach ball like a hundred feet under the water.

01:46:49.000 And you're down there with a ball and chain tied to your ankle trying to hold the ball down.

01:46:57.000 And now it's exploded over $100 in one day.

01:46:59.000 $115 in 24 hours.

01:46:59.000 I don't know what.

01:47:05.000 It's going to do by the end of the day.

01:47:06.000 I don't know what it's going to be next week, but bottom line, the dollar is dead. 0.94

01:47:10.000 Bottom line, they are raping the daylights out of us.

01:47:13.000 And Bob's right. 0.95

01:47:13.000 I mean, they've engineered the collapse, but it's gotten worse than they wanted, but they're still trying to organize it and control it. 0.95

01:47:22.000 I want to bring Ted Anderson up for this segment and the next.

01:47:25.000 Then we've got April Gallup.

01:47:27.000 By the way, I forgot her bio.

01:47:28.000 I know who she is.

01:47:29.000 Well, you ask the guys as we're down on time.

01:47:32.000 So I have it in ten minutes to give me April Gallup's bio, and I know her whole story, but I want to have that.

01:47:37.000 I had it here, I don't know where it is.

01:47:40.000 She survived in the Pentagon, heroic tale, and it ties into the 9-11 truth, and so we'll be getting into that.

01:47:48.000 Ted, yesterday you offered gold at the price it was Tuesday, at right around what you were selling it for, right around $800 an ounce.

01:47:59.000 It's gone up over a hundred dollars from what you were selling it at, but you offered it at that yesterday and sold out a little bit over even your supply, but you've got it being shipped in at that price.

01:48:16.000 So you're even losing a little money on that, but that did end this morning.

01:48:21.000 You've got another big deal because you were able to get it at before the price it is today, And even back a little lower than it was yesterday.

01:48:29.000 But that was the best deal ever offered.

01:48:31.000 And you told me this privately on the phone.

01:48:33.000 You've ever offered or you've ever heard of.

01:48:34.000 It was an insane deal.

01:48:36.000 And you're honoring that.

01:48:38.000 You sold out your safe of the gold at that price.

01:48:41.000 Now you've bought more gold at the higher price.

01:48:43.000 We talked this morning, folks.

01:48:46.000 But you've still got a super deal on it today.

01:48:48.000 And folks, I tried to get you to buy it Monday when it was $115 less.

01:48:52.000 Ted, tell them about what you got.

01:48:56.000 Well, okay.

01:48:57.000 I mean, let's go at it.

01:48:58.000 I mean, yesterday we did.

01:48:59.000 We oversold our inventory.

01:49:01.000 We're going to honor every single transaction.

01:49:03.000 Just means that I'll be buying it higher and selling it for lower.

01:49:06.000 That's okay.

01:49:07.000 I'll survive.

01:49:08.000 I appreciate what everybody does for us.

01:49:10.000 The second thing is I did lock in a position when gold was sitting there at that $800 and $870 level right around there, and now we're sitting with a high end goal of $918.10 today.

01:49:23.000 Right now it's hovering at $960 per ounce, so we're over $900 per ounce.

01:49:27.000 Yeah, now let's be clear.

01:49:29.000 This is like gambling, folks, and Ted puts everything on the line.

01:49:32.000 He gambled, gave you a deal never before seen.

01:49:35.000 He lost money.

01:49:37.000 He's honoring it all.

01:49:38.000 He wants to have customers.

01:49:40.000 He's a great guy.

01:49:41.000 Now, he locked it in yesterday, and it's gone up a whole bunch more over that.

01:49:46.000 He's going to offer it to you at the locked-in amount.

01:49:49.000 Now, Ted, if you sell out your locked-in amount, I guess you're going to honor that as well.

01:49:54.000 I certainly will, and I can tell you, yesterday is the first time I've ever sold gold coins that far below spot.

01:49:59.000 It was amazing that I could do it.

01:50:01.000 And I'm glad I'm able to do it.

01:50:03.000 Everybody who bought is winning right now.

01:50:05.000 That's just a perfect mix.

01:50:06.000 There is something still, Alex, from last week that I still have inventory on.

01:50:11.000 And that's those Walking Liberty halves.

01:50:13.000 I have them at $6.95.

01:50:16.000 Silver now, rather than being $10 an ounce, is $12.98 an ounce.

01:50:21.000 Almost $13 an ounce.

01:50:23.000 And I haven't moved the prices on those.

01:50:26.000 That will not be here.

01:50:29.000 I can tell you that.

01:50:31.000 You've got silver.

01:50:33.000 Gorgeous half dollars.

01:50:34.000 It's the prettiest silver coin I've got.

01:50:38.000 Right now below spot, folks, that deal is insane.

01:50:40.000 800-686-2237.

01:50:41.000 I love offering my listeners deals like this.

01:50:46.000 800-686-2237.

01:50:47.000 Come back, we're going to tell you about the gold deal briefly with Ted Anderson.

01:50:53.000 Stay with us.

01:50:54.000 Cameras are everywhere.

01:50:55.000 Let's skip this break.

01:50:57.000 Let's skip this break.

01:50:58.000 I mean, for the network, we're going to leave the break.

01:51:01.000 But bring Ted in here for the internet listeners.

01:51:02.000 I don't want to waste any time.

01:51:04.000 Ted, let's come back with everybody on the gold issue.

01:51:06.000 But, I mean, getting down to brass tacks.

01:51:08.000 We were scared six months ago in private phone conversations.

01:51:10.000 We're both freaking out.

01:51:12.000 I mean, this is great for folks that invest in gold and silver.

01:51:15.000 But, I mean, watching Rome burn is not fun.

01:51:17.000 This is an emergency survival package to try to just save wealth.

01:51:21.000 I mean, will it go up?

01:51:22.000 Will it go down?

01:51:23.000 Most probably up, and up, and up, and up, and up.

01:51:25.000 But with that Rome Burns, the point is, is that this is a life preserver.

01:51:30.000 There's no question that you need gold and silver, and Ted's a great place to get it.

01:51:35.000 So he's got that silver, he's got the gold, it's just at a higher price, and we'll talk about that coming up.

01:51:40.000 But dealing with the economy, Ted, I mean, this is even getting worse faster than I thought it would.

01:51:45.000 This is worse than the prospectus we put out.

01:51:51.000 Your comments?

01:51:53.000 Yeah, I mean, it really is.

01:51:54.000 I mean, you look at the kind of institutions right now that are failing, and the kind of bailouts that are coming out of the United States government, and where the stock market is, and the volatility there.

01:52:05.000 And to consider the fact that if you have over $100,000 at the bank, you're at risk.

01:52:10.000 And you know, there's so many people that have mutual funds and the stocks and they have money in the bank through these 401k plans and it's a house of cards.

01:52:20.000 And the biggest problem is not so much that there's going to be bankruptcies and you lose everything.

01:52:24.000 The biggest risk is that the United States dollar is being bombarded right now because of the new currency coming into the system to bail out these problems.

01:52:33.000 I mean, we could be looking at 20%, maybe 30% inflation.

01:52:37.000 The kind of inflation that Argentina and Brazil went through, or even, it could be as bad as the Weimar Republic, because of the fact that we're trying to solve our problems by injecting money into the system.

01:52:49.000 I like the way Peter Shaw put it, man, we need to let the problems come.

01:52:53.000 And let the economy adjust, go through this thing, and on the other side we'll come out okay.

01:52:58.000 But instead of doing that, the United States government is trying to step in and bail everything out.

01:53:03.000 And you just can't do that.

01:53:05.000 And by doing that, it infects the entire system.

01:53:08.000 It does affect the entire system, Alex.

01:53:10.000 We're driving this economy in the United States right into the floor.

01:53:14.000 And the people, you know, they don't know what's coming and what's going to hit them.

01:53:17.000 And, you know, I don't know how to say it enough.

01:53:20.000 I mean, we don't even know how to grow food here as a nation.

01:53:22.000 You know, the farmers are sitting there with all this grain and everything that... No, no, we're going to the concentration camp economy. 0.97

01:53:31.000 I mean, it's the Pentagon plan.

01:53:33.000 For all of you out there giggling and smirking, just keep it up. 0.97

01:53:35.000 I mean, we tried to warn you jackasses. 1.00

01:53:37.000 Well, you know, the thing about it is, you used to say, the yuppies are, you know, laughing at me. 0.94

01:53:41.000 Well, guess what?

01:53:42.000 We're laughing at them now, because they're getting hit, and they're getting hit hard.

01:53:45.000 I take no pleasure in that, though. 1.00

01:53:47.000 You know, I mean, watching some idiot laugh at me and walk out in front of an 18-wheeler going 100. 1.00

01:53:51.000 Well, yeah. 1.00

01:53:51.000 Watch them. 1.00

01:53:52.000 Your gut's smashed everywhere, all the street.

01:53:53.000 Isn't it funny?

01:53:54.000 What, it... and all you're doing is... Hold on, let's go back live.

01:53:57.000 Sorry, Ted.

01:53:57.000 Here we go.

01:53:57.000 We don't need no Okay, well, the good news and the bad news.

01:54:10.000 Ted's got gold and silver at below spot for you again today because he secured positions.

01:54:15.000 He's got it in stock, the silver.

01:54:18.000 You need to get your orders in now, folks.

01:54:19.000 Don't wait, don't procrastinate.

01:54:21.000 I know how busy things are.

01:54:22.000 I'm the same way.

01:54:23.000 I don't even like buying stuff.

01:54:25.000 I'm not into things.

01:54:26.000 But you've got to get storable food.

01:54:27.000 You've got to get water filtration systems, firearms, ammo.

01:54:32.000 I mean, the number one thing to fight the New World Order is to be self-sufficient.

01:54:36.000 And gold and silver, for those that have assets, even if you don't have a lot of money, silver is something great to get into.

01:54:41.000 I mean, Ted will sell you a silver coin if you want it for six bucks or whatever, half an ounce, which is below spot.

01:54:48.000 So Ted is there right now with his great brokers who stayed there till past midnight last night.

01:54:54.000 The most amount of calls they ever got yesterday from this show, period.

01:54:57.000 And they've been on Coast to Coast AM.

01:54:59.000 So I hope that you will give them a call right now at 800-686-2237.

01:55:02.000 at 800-686-2237. 800-686-2237.

01:55:09.000 Now, the best deal ever in the history that I've ever heard of, and that Ted's ever, not just him, that we've ever heard of.

01:55:13.000 It was an insane deal yesterday.

01:55:15.000 Ted has one almost as good, which might break the other records as well, after his record.

01:55:21.000 But tell folks the specifics of the deal, Ted.

01:55:23.000 Yeah, right now we locked into the gold at $871, right in that range.

01:55:30.000 We were looking at British Sovereigns, currently right now they're at $241 per coin.

01:55:35.000 We have the Franks at $193.

01:55:37.000 Now Alex, the day before today, you could pick up those Franks at $217 rather than $241.

01:55:45.000 These are still below the spot price.

01:55:47.000 You're not going to find them out there because spot now has jumped over $900.

01:55:52.000 Two days ago I was offering the silver halves at $6.95 and they were $10 in some.

01:55:58.000 Last time silver was up in that $18 range right in there.

01:56:01.000 Well guess what?

01:56:02.000 Silver is just blowing through all the levels right now.

01:56:04.000 It's $13 and I locked this stuff in at $10.

01:56:07.000 So this is exactly the same buy.

01:56:09.000 If you missed out on something yesterday, you still have an opportunity today to get on those Walking Liberty halves.

01:56:16.000 Okay, so there's the same below spot deal, it's just now you pay more because you waited.

01:56:22.000 But the point is, it's still the same insane level.

01:56:25.000 No, Alex, you're getting that wrong.

01:56:26.000 It's the same price as yesterday.

01:56:28.000 They haven't gone up yet.

01:56:29.000 It's that much better of a deal because spot has gone up.

01:56:32.000 Wait a minute, I didn't understand that.

01:56:33.000 Excuse me?

01:56:34.000 I'm selling the silver halves for the same price I did when I got on your show on Monday.

01:56:39.000 No, I understand that part.

01:56:41.000 The gold.

01:56:41.000 The gold prices are up, yeah, a little bit.

01:56:43.000 That's right.

01:56:44.000 I couldn't do that anymore.

01:56:45.000 I understand, Ted.

01:56:46.000 I understand you lost a bunch of money.

01:56:47.000 We talked last night.

01:56:47.000 The point is that you're still getting it at a super discount with the gold.

01:56:52.000 It's still one of the best deals ever.

01:56:54.000 There's no question about it because I locked it at this $871 price and now we're over $900.

01:57:01.000 Well folks, I only support what I morally believe in, and I know Ted is a great, upstanding person, and high quality, and great brokers, and the prices cannot be beat, and he's doing this because he wants a relationship with you, and because he loves the folks on this show.

01:57:17.000 Big Ron Paul, supporter, the founder of this network.

01:57:21.000 Thank God I started a show with him for about a year and a half that I was doing for my house when I would go in every night and do the KJFK 98.9 blowtorch that went from south of Dallas down to San Antonio on FM.

01:57:34.000 When they fired me, I luckily had already gotten on a few affiliates and been on for a while with Ted and Shortwave Internet and Satellite.

01:57:39.000 And so Ted has just always been there for us, and he's given you an insane deal.

01:57:43.000 So give the brokers a call at Midas Resources, right there in the same building as Genesis.

01:57:47.000 1-800-686-2237.

01:57:48.000 Now, Ted, how long can you hold this deal?

01:57:48.000 1-800-686-2237. 1-800-686-2237.

01:57:54.000 Now, Ted, how long can you hold this deal?

01:57:56.000 Well, I can tell you I'm going to be running out of silver halves real probably.

01:58:01.000 I doubt I can do this tomorrow.

01:58:04.000 This is about as far as I can hold.

01:58:06.000 How long do you guarantee it?

01:58:07.000 Until midnight tonight?

01:58:08.000 Without a question.

01:58:09.000 Midnight tonight.

01:58:10.000 And then we'll see what's going on tomorrow.

01:58:11.000 Okay, and then there's also the gold.

01:58:13.000 How long can you hold at that below spot?

01:58:15.000 Again, we'll have to do a tell tonight, and if we have to come on tomorrow, we will, you know.

01:58:19.000 Okay, so midnight set on the goal, but you guarantee it till midnight central.

01:58:22.000 Yep.

01:58:23.000 Minnesota time, Texas time.

01:58:24.000 We're right here in the same time zone.

01:58:26.000 1-800-686-2237.

01:58:26.000 800-686-2237.

01:58:26.000 Ted, thank you.

01:58:27.000 Thank you.

01:58:27.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

01:58:29.000 800-686-237.

01:58:31.000 Ted, thank you.

01:58:32.000 Thank you.

01:58:32.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

01:58:37.000 Visit GCNlive.com today.

01:58:41.000 All right.

01:58:42.000 And then we'll see what's going on tomorrow.

01:58:44.000 Okay, and then there's also the gold.

01:58:45.000 How long can you hold at that below spot?

01:58:47.000 And again, we'll have to do a tell tonight, and if we have to come on tomorrow, we will, you know.

01:58:51.000 Okay, so midnight's it on the gold, but you guarantee it till midnight central?

01:58:55.000 Yep.

01:58:55.000 Minnesota time, Texas time.

01:58:57.000 We're right here in the same time zone.

01:58:58.000 1-800-686-2237.

01:58:58.000 800-686-2237.

01:58:59.000 Ted, thank you.

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02:00:06.000 You know, I got a little eight-minute interview with Barry Jennings that's in Fabled Enemies, what's longer in Fabled Enemies.

02:00:12.000 I want to air that at the end of the show today, at least part of it.

02:00:15.000 I got a key government clip from a few days ago where he admits about the forced injection of immigrants with vaccines that are not mandatory for citizens.

02:00:26.000 So he also, there's a hoax that citizens have to take it too.

02:00:30.000 And this government's completely criminal.

02:00:32.000 I mean, understood they lie about everything.

02:00:34.000 He's really something else.

02:00:35.000 Well, he tells the truth about government-sponsored terror and everything now.

02:00:38.000 That's why they're trying to force him out.

02:00:40.000 That's official.

02:00:40.000 They fired him from election coverage and they're trying to get him out for the next administration.

02:00:45.000 That's been in the news that Oberman's probably on his way out.

02:00:48.000 I want to play about a one-minute clip of him talking about the vaccines, then this disgusting Rothschild. 0.99

02:00:55.000 uh... the uh... wife of the baron she goes night she says she just a commoner a no big deal person the fact that they're now all over tv and i don't mean you have the name rothschild big huge family tens of thousands i mean this is the wife of the kingpin you know rothschild's almost like when it comes to jewish people like the name jones uh... but uh... you know for for for welsh uh... or or or the name uh...

02:01:20.000 You know, Vladimir for Russians, you know, real popular.

02:01:25.000 So I'm not blaming all Rothschilds here, but this is a very wicked Rothschild.

02:01:28.000 And you can watch the video on InfoWars.com. 0.98

02:01:30.000 She's just so arrogant, so hateful. 0.75

02:01:32.000 So we'll play part of both these clips back-to-back. 0.97

02:01:35.000 First Oberman, then the Rothschilds shoveling BS on the public. 0.70

02:01:40.000 Here it is.

02:01:44.000 Number three, vaccine gate.

02:01:45.000 It is revealed that two months ago, Mr. Bush's Immigration Department added a new mandatory vaccination for anybody seeking U.S.

02:01:52.000 citizenship.

02:01:53.000 Gardasil, which protects against human papillomavirus, HPV.

02:01:58.000 But just 19 months ago, the head of immunization for the Centers for Disease Control insisted Gardasil should not be mandatory for Americans because HPV is not communicable like, say, chickenpox is.

02:02:09.000 So now if you're a citizen, you don't have to be vaccinated.

02:02:12.000 If you want to become a citizen, you do.

02:02:14.000 Meaning we are demanding they take away the right to choose, the right we give citizens.

02:02:19.000 Oh, and we also get another group of human guinea pigs for this vaccine, and Merck gets to charge them 162 bucks a shot.

02:02:26.000 Number two, Passportgate.

02:02:28.000 Remember this?

02:02:28.000 That explosive night when it was revealed somebody had access...

02:02:33.000 Lynn Forster de Rothschild is here with us in the Situation Room, and we're going to get your reaction.

02:02:39.000 This was a surprise, because you've been a Democrat for a long time, you love Hillary Clinton, and she says, don't vote for McCain and Palin.

02:02:47.000 Why did you decide to cross over?

02:02:49.000 Let me just go back to your piece, if I may, for a minute.

02:02:52.000 It is true.

02:02:53.000 I am married to a wonderful, a wonderful man whose name is Durothchild.

02:02:58.000 It is also true. 0.80

02:02:59.000 And he's a baron.

02:02:59.000 And he's a knight.

02:03:00.000 He's a knight.

02:03:01.000 Okay.

02:03:01.000 But not to quibble.

02:03:03.000 But I grew up in a middle-class family in New Jersey.

02:03:07.000 My parents worked two jobs to put four children through college, law school, and medical school.

02:03:14.000 And we were told the American dream could be ours because we live in a great country.

02:03:19.000 And I have lived the dream.

02:03:21.000 Because what they're saying, the Obama people, you just heard that congresswoman suggest that Lady Baroness Rothschild, who is that to be talking about elitism when you are obviously among the elite right now?

02:03:33.000 See, this is so sad when the Democratic Party plays the class card and they try to divide America and they try to say that somehow My opinion is less worthy than another person's because I have this wonderful life.

02:03:48.000 I have a wonderful life.

02:03:49.000 I want John McCain and Sarah Palin in the White House so other people can have that wonderful life.

02:03:54.000 Because a lot of Clinton supporters know... Can I call you Lynn?

02:03:57.000 Yes, of course.

02:03:58.000 A lot of Clinton supporters say, you know, on so many of the issues, That you supported and worked really hard for Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.

02:04:06.000 The McCain-Palin ticket is opposite of what you believe in on some of the social issues.

02:04:10.000 For example, I assume on gay rights or abortion rights or sex education in school.

02:04:16.000 Some of these issues, you feel comfortable with McCain and Palin?

02:04:19.000 See, the Democratic Party tries to take those issues as wedge issues.

02:04:24.000 There is no question That John McCain and Sarah Palin are going to take away the right to choose or they're going to take away gay rights.

02:04:33.000 That's not what they're there for.

02:04:34.000 They're there for ordinary Americans.

02:04:37.000 These people who they are and the people who they fought for.

02:04:40.000 That's why I support them.

02:04:42.000 But you support abortion rights, for example?

02:04:44.000 I support abortion rights.

02:04:45.000 Are you concerned?

02:04:45.000 You know, I'm not for Barack Obama, but when you get this witch supporting McCain, it makes you wonder.

02:04:51.000 Stay with us.

02:04:51.000 We'll be right back.

02:04:54.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against... You got April Gallup!

02:05:01.000 ...take away the right to choose, or they're going to take away gay rights.

02:05:05.000 That's not what they're there for.

02:05:07.000 They're there for ordinary Americans, the people who they are, and the people who they've fought for.

02:05:12.000 That's why I support them.

02:05:14.000 But you support abortion rights, for example?

02:05:16.000 I support abortion rights.

02:05:17.000 Are you concerned?

02:05:18.000 I'm not for Barack Obama, but when you get this witch supporting McCain, it makes you wonder.

02:05:23.000 Stay with us, we'll be right back.

02:05:26.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

02:05:33.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

02:05:36.000 But who is the enemy?

02:05:37.000 Bin Laden.

02:05:38.000 This is his M.O.

02:05:39.000 We have to look to the Middle East.

02:05:40.000 We have to look to Osama Bin Laden. 0.93

02:05:42.000 Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.

02:05:49.000 Some U.S.

02:05:50.000 investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.

02:05:56.000 I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.

02:06:00.000 Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.

02:06:10.000 Fabled enemies.

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02:06:19.000 Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.

02:06:26.000 Wake up, Protestant America! 1.00

02:06:28.000 There is an ecumenical movement now being planned to join church and state.

02:06:31.000 This confederation of evangelicals, Catholics, and Protestant denominations will form one huge political voting block.

02:06:37.000 Their agenda is enforcement of religious worship and morality by legislation.

02:06:42.000 Our forefathers wrote the Bill of Rights to guarantee all Americans this freedom, liberty of conscience.

02:06:46.000 History and the Bible prove to them that these two systems, church and state, must be kept separate. 0.63

02:06:51.000 It must be our love of God and of country that prompts or constrains us.

02:06:55.000 This will change the character, not civil enforcement.

02:06:58.000 From history we saw that when church and state united, known as Papal Rome, religious intolerance resulted.

02:07:03.000 This union would go directly contrary to the great principles of our nation.

02:07:07.000 America and Papal Rome are uniting in this agenda.

02:07:09.000 Protestant America, awake before it is too late!

02:07:12.000 The prophecies are fast fulfilling.

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02:07:25.000 You know, as a father and a husband, one of the enjoyable things in my life has been walking in at night and checking on my children, checking up on my wife, making sure she has the things she needs, but mostly providing for my family and knowing that they are secure, that they feel comfortable every day in their little skins.

02:07:41.000 They don't have to worry about the oddities of the world taking over and wrecking their lives.

02:07:45.000 I've always wanted to be a good provider.

02:07:47.000 And I'm not going to change that now just because the economy is in upheaval and because there's a lot of political and social uncertainty.

02:07:53.000 And I hear about global famines and I see the escalation.

02:07:57.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:08:00.000 I'm going to let her introduce herself and, you know, give us some background and really walk through this story somehow.

02:08:13.000 Some have heard it, others haven't.

02:08:15.000 It's all documented.

02:08:17.000 April Gallup worked inside the Pentagon on 9-11 as she, as an administrative specialist for the top security, top secret security clearance with SCI, with the U.S. 0.98

02:08:31.000 Army.

02:08:32.000 And we're going to tell the story of what she witnessed on that day and the tremendous injuries and trauma on 9-11 that she survived.

02:08:43.000 And I really want to thank April Gallup for coming on with us today to first tell her story of what happened then and the fight she's going through right now.

02:08:53.000 April, it's great to have you on the show with us.

02:08:55.000 Thank you for having me, Alex.

02:08:57.000 You bet.

02:08:59.000 Sure.

02:09:00.000 Start at the beginning.

02:09:01.000 Who you were, what you were doing there, what happened that day, and then now what's happened after.

02:09:05.000 All the key issues, please.

02:09:08.000 Okay.

02:09:09.000 September 11, 2001, I was returning back from maternity leave, and with that come getting situated.

02:09:18.000 I was asked to take care of some paperwork prior to taking my son to daycare.

02:09:25.000 Uh, so I said yes, of course, to do what they said, but honestly, I didn't think that they were actually going to clear my son, uh, to get through.

02:09:34.000 But somehow on that particular day, he was able to get cleared, uh, to go, uh, in the back with me.

02:09:41.000 When I sat down at the desk, I pulled out the keyboard, I went to touch the computer, and as soon as I touched the button, boom!

02:09:53.000 Um, and then of course the rest is history.

02:09:55.000 Now from an insider's perspective, because it happened simultaneously, when I touched the keyboard, and when I touched the button on the screen, I thought I triggered something.

02:10:08.000 I mean that's just, you know, by virtue of what took place.

02:10:11.000 Yeah, that was probably just a coincidence, because when I was covering a Bilderberg Group meeting a few months ago, right as I go to open the door to go back in the room, and there was a TV crew inside, right as I open the door, right as I start cracking it, the alarm goes off, and I'm like, my God, what did I touch?

02:10:28.000 I started saying, Rob, what did you touch?

02:10:29.000 But it wasn't that, it just so happened to happen right as I turned the door, right as I swiped the key, and right as I Right, and of course, being on the inside, there were no alarms, no hints, with everything that was going on.

02:10:42.000 And they're always watching news around the world 24-7 in the Pentagon.

02:10:44.000 an aircraft just slammed into it right and of course being on the inside there were no alarms no hints with everything that was going on um and they're always watching you know news around the world 24 7 in the pentagon there were no alarms no hints no warnings nothing so you know that was another um wow how how come um

02:11:11.000 Um, and of course, you know, I, eventually I came to, um, and we got out of the debris and I lost my shoes and I, and I bring this part up very crucial because I walked barefooted out with my son.

02:11:26.000 Um, and I didn't see, you know, various types of debris or, you know, Anything to that nature that would cause me to think, wow, that wasn't a bomb, that was a plane.

02:11:40.000 So I was quite surprised.

02:11:43.000 And then when I was told, and as I continued to relive the incident, I tried to see how was it possible.

02:11:51.000 You know, I tried to rationalize the situation.

02:11:56.000 After I was given the information.

02:11:57.000 Yeah, let's go back and walk through this slowly.

02:11:59.000 I mean, describe.

02:12:00.000 You're in there with your newborn baby.

02:12:02.000 You've just brought him into the Pentagon.

02:12:04.000 Right as you sit down to go to work, a huge explosion.

02:12:08.000 What are you seeing in there?

02:12:09.000 I mean, you describe not seeing plane debris or luggage or people or anything.

02:12:13.000 What are you seeing?

02:12:15.000 I mean, there's images of inside the Pentagon where it's just sheer blown out and cut and there's still computers and desks sitting there untouched, but the plane just disappears.

02:12:25.000 Right.

02:12:26.000 I mean, you could see that there were, you could see where the, inside the computer, they were still burning.

02:12:33.000 Um, I guess stuff, I don't know what the inside of stuff in the ceiling was, that it all came down.

02:12:38.000 Um, there was still some, um, office, I don't know if it was desk equipment, whatever it was, it was all piled on top of each other.

02:12:47.000 So it seemed it was more like we were blown and then covered under just debris.

02:12:54.000 The metal desks weren't moved that much from what I saw.

02:12:59.000 But that was it.

02:13:00.000 Now you were right along the line of the explosion there.

02:13:05.000 Your office from that outer ring, where was your office along that line of the first several rings that got penetrated by the projectile?

02:13:14.000 We were right there what they would consider as the ground zero.

02:13:20.000 We were in the first corridor E-ring.

02:13:23.000 So you had an outside seat and you were right up on the edge of the ring.

02:13:30.000 Right.

02:13:31.000 We were right there.

02:13:31.000 Right.

02:13:35.000 I tried to rationalize it with the Black Sabres when we got blown a little bit. 1.00

02:13:35.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:13:40.000 I mean, I really don't know.

02:13:43.000 But you didn't see any aircraft or any smoking aluminum or any dead bodies burning up.

02:13:49.000 It was just... In fact, how big were the fires?

02:13:53.000 We have the video of it.

02:13:54.000 They look pretty small and it's pretty clean.

02:13:56.000 Sixteen foot.

02:13:58.000 I guess when you're trying to get yourself together, maybe in the beginning it might seem that things seemed a little bit exaggerated because again, you don't know what's happened.

02:14:09.000 Oh no, it was terrible.

02:14:10.000 You're in there in a big explosion.

02:14:13.000 You know, you hear this baby crying, you're wondering what's going on.

02:14:16.000 Thank God your baby was okay.

02:14:17.000 I mean, how's your baby doing all that?

02:14:20.000 Well, again, he had his... It was rough, you know, in the beginning, because he was so young.

02:14:25.000 And his head was all soft and tender.

02:14:29.000 So there was that period, we went through with that.

02:14:32.000 But again, he had stopped crying, and so that's what made me get out from under the debris.

02:14:37.000 Because the other young lady that was in there, she's like, get your baby, get your baby! 1.00

02:14:41.000 And I'm like, oh, that's my baby.

02:14:42.000 Because, you know, you're out of sorts.

02:14:44.000 You're present, but then you're not.

02:14:45.000 It's like it's real, but then it really, it doesn't feel real.

02:14:50.000 Yeah.

02:14:52.000 Um, so, you know.

02:14:55.000 Now, now, now, now, now, where did you climb out?

02:14:59.000 And then after you climbed out, did you see the entry hole of the, uh, weapon?

02:15:04.000 Um, technically they're claiming that the area that we came out of, that we walked out of, was supposed to have been the, this would be, uh, I'm trying to think of the name of the office that did the, uh, scaling of where everybody was located.

02:15:16.000 They said what we came out of was the injured hole.

02:15:20.000 I, you know, I, I don't, I don't know.

02:15:22.000 I know I came out of a big gaping hole and when I came out, it felt like, you know, somebody had taken a hammer and beat me from my head all the way down to my body.

02:15:32.000 So I collapsed on the grass.

02:15:37.000 Now, how big was that hole?

02:15:38.000 It wasn't that big.

02:15:44.000 Really wasn't that big.

02:15:45.000 Big passenger liner.

02:15:46.000 I mean, even if it hit, its engines would have hit, you know, 20 yards out, 15 yards out.

02:15:52.000 You would have seen those smash up or make holes, but it didn't.

02:15:55.000 It was just this 16-foot hole.

02:15:58.000 And, uh, you know, later they came in and dumped sand everywhere in front of it to make it look like it was worse.

02:16:04.000 And you got some spools there and the grass is doing just fine.

02:16:07.000 And you climb out of this burning 15, 16 foot hole.

02:16:12.000 And then later they spray water on it and the top collapses in a little bit, but still that's only about 20 feet across.

02:16:18.000 Right.

02:16:19.000 But even, you know, when I, when I was coming out and I was about to collapse, they grabbed me on both sides of my arm.

02:16:27.000 And they caught Elijah, but then the guy who had my right arm came way back in.

02:16:31.000 So, I said, wow, how was he able to do that with that jet fuel and, you know, based off the official story.

02:16:41.000 And this is just a few minutes after it happens.

02:16:44.000 I mean, right after.

02:16:46.000 And there's people just going in, but the jet fuel burned and melted all the plane and burned all the bodies, but they're just going right in there.

02:16:53.000 It's no problem.

02:16:54.000 Right?

02:16:56.000 I mean, back and forth.

02:16:57.000 Now, now, now.

02:16:59.000 Please continue.

02:17:04.000 April?

02:17:05.000 Yes?

02:17:06.000 Okay, I was saying, please continue with your story.

02:17:09.000 Okay, I'm sorry to hear you.

02:17:10.000 That's okay.

02:17:10.000 And so, you know, again, it seems real, but then it didn't.

02:17:15.000 But it was, you know, a moment.

02:17:18.000 And it was a very pivotal moment.

02:17:20.000 And I spent a lot of time trying to comprehend the whole situation.

02:17:26.000 But I wind up being in a local hospital.

02:17:30.000 I did wind up eventually going to the hospital, but they separated me and my son.

02:17:34.000 And later that night, or maybe it was after midnight, or maybe early that next morning, somebody brought my wallet.

02:17:41.000 And in my wallet was my ID card and my son's ID card.

02:17:45.000 So then they put it together, but we were still in this triage-type setting because it was a room full of other people.

02:17:56.000 Couple of hours later from that, not that I was keeping up with it since the time or anything, someone came in and that's when they said, do you know what happened?

02:18:06.000 And I said, well, no, not really.

02:18:09.000 I thought maybe I triggered something.

02:18:10.000 And then they said, this is what happened.

02:18:14.000 And then that was it.

02:18:15.000 It wasn't like they were, how are you?

02:18:17.000 Are you okay?

02:18:18.000 How's your kid?

02:18:18.000 I mean, it was nothing like that.

02:18:19.000 It was just more of, This is what happened.

02:18:22.000 Well, April, I want to go over the story very carefully here after the break, and we really appreciate you joining us.

02:18:26.000 But did you know now there's all these videos of minutes after the towers fall of guys in baseball caps professionally walking around saying the same thing about, well, you know, the plane went in with all that jet fuel and went out the other side, and it caused such incredible heat on the structural, weakened the girders, and it, you know, fell from and it caused such incredible heat on the structural, weakened the girders, and it, you know, fell from a structural Then the news all repeated it.

02:18:50.000 And now we know at the Pentagon and at the World Trade Centers, guys would go around saying, this is what you saw.

02:18:55.000 You didn't see bombs going off.

02:18:57.000 You didn't see that.

02:18:58.000 And with Building 7, they told the cops, you didn't hear us say we were going to blow that up.

02:19:03.000 So when we come back, I want to specifically go back in every detail you can tell us about Who this person was, how they were dressed, what they looked like, what they said to you.

02:19:14.000 I mean, imagine you're laying there in a bed.

02:19:15.000 Why should they care about somebody at the Pentagon who her and her baby were hit?

02:19:19.000 I mean, they know it's a plane.

02:19:20.000 Everybody knows, you know?

02:19:22.000 Why go to an eyewitness and say, hi, you're awake now, dear.

02:19:25.000 Let me tell you what you just saw.

02:19:27.000 Okay?

02:19:28.000 Let's get this real straight right now with you.

02:19:31.000 Just like they had all the guys on the streets going, giving the same script out.

02:19:35.000 And BBC reporting Building 7 had fallen exactly as it did later fall, 25 minutes before it fell.

02:19:41.000 Both BBC channels and CNN.

02:19:43.000 I mean, folks, the facts are the facts.

02:19:47.000 That's how dangerous these people are.

02:19:47.000 They did it.

02:19:50.000 We'll be right back with April Gallup and tell you the rest of her story.

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02:24:23.000 I'm looking at a photo of her and her young son who's now grown up quite a bit since that terrible attack seven years ago.

02:24:32.000 April, continuing here with as much detail as you can, you're laying there in the hospital bed, who did he identify himself as, where did he say he came from, and what did you think?

02:24:42.000 I mean, as somebody's hovering over you, telling you, this is what you saw, this is what happened, is that clear?

02:24:49.000 You know, you got the official story, understand?

02:24:52.000 I mean, go over as much detail as you can.

02:24:56.000 Well, a gentleman Didn't identify his name.

02:25:02.000 He was with other military.

02:25:05.000 There was like one person in a Navy uniform and one in an Army uniform.

02:25:12.000 But the gentleman who spoke was just in regular clothing.

02:25:15.000 He didn't really say, Hi, I'm so and so.

02:25:19.000 It was not like, How you doing?

02:25:21.000 I'm so and so.

02:25:21.000 You know, I'm with He never did a fight organization or anything like that?

02:25:27.000 No, he's a spook. 0.99

02:25:28.000 He's the kind of guy that launches missiles into buildings. 0.62

02:25:30.000 He's a bloodthirsty spook. 0.99

02:25:32.000 Killer spook. 0.89

02:25:33.000 And he's there to let you know, young lady, this is what you saw.

02:25:37.000 Isn't that right?

02:25:37.000 Because I'm a hardcore soldier and I understand collateral damage and sacrificing pawns and you don't.

02:25:43.000 So, I mean, he's there.

02:25:45.000 What are the other guys doing?

02:25:46.000 I mean, was he white?

02:25:47.000 Was he black?

02:25:48.000 I mean, describe him.

02:25:50.000 He was a caucasian-american and he was accompanied by an african-american and I think the other woman was asian-american.

02:25:59.000 Okay, so the spook house is there and you're saying they're in different branches of the military uniforms, do you remember?

02:26:06.000 Yes, because after he left the lady did come back and She was saying that they were going around, you know, doing accountability because I had asked questions.

02:26:18.000 I was like, well, wow.

02:26:19.000 I mean, you know, are you going to ask if I'm okay?

02:26:23.000 Or, I mean, well, who are you?

02:26:24.000 You know?

02:26:25.000 And so nobody said anything.

02:26:28.000 He just said, we had to say that was it.

02:26:30.000 So then she came back.

02:26:32.000 And then she just said, hey, we have to do accountability and make sure we know where all the military people are.

02:26:37.000 Exactly.

02:26:37.000 It's like, smooth that over with her.

02:26:40.000 That one might ask questions.

02:26:41.000 Now, I mean, by then, are you wondering why you're seeing on the news or had you watched the news at a flight?

02:26:46.000 No, I had not seen the news.

02:26:47.000 I had not seen the news till about two more days later.

02:26:52.000 So I think I saw the news maybe the 14th or the 15th.

02:26:56.000 Because at that time, of course, we're getting evaluations.

02:27:03.000 Because immediately the military does the investigation to determine who's at fault or if you caused part of your accident.

02:27:09.000 So immediately investigations begin.

02:27:13.000 So immediately I went into investigation.

02:27:15.000 Well let's stop and go back and then we'll go forward into investigation.

02:27:20.000 What specifically did he say to you?

02:27:23.000 What did he say?

02:27:23.000 He said, here's what you saw, I'm going to tell you what you saw.

02:27:26.000 What did he say?

02:27:27.000 Specifically?

02:27:31.000 He said, what do you think happened?

02:27:32.000 And I said, oh, well, I thought maybe I triggered something because as soon as I touched the button on the computer, boom!

02:27:37.000 He was like, no.

02:27:39.000 This is what happened.

02:27:42.000 And that was it.

02:27:43.000 It wasn't like he was elaborating or anything additional.

02:27:49.000 It was just blank, straight to the point.

02:27:51.000 April, what did he tell you happened?

02:27:54.000 What did he say happened?

02:27:57.000 That Sentara had hijacked the plane That ran into, well crashed, into the Pentagon.

02:28:07.000 Now have you ever talked to others, because this story comes up with other emergency workers that showed up, people in the, that these men would show up and say, this is what you saw, is that clear?

02:28:16.000 Did you ever talk to anybody else who told you similar stories?

02:28:20.000 No, I hadn't.

02:28:22.000 No, I hadn't talked to anybody.

02:28:25.000 Okay, now you said you immediately went into the investigation phase, please continue.

02:28:30.000 Yeah, what happened is when you're in the military, regardless, first of all, depending on you're selected to come there.

02:28:38.000 So not everybody gets to go to the Pentagon.

02:28:40.000 You're selected to come there.

02:28:42.000 But it doesn't matter if you're still active duty military.

02:28:46.000 They do, they begin investigations to determine if any part of that incident was your fault.

02:28:53.000 And so then you have to get physically, mentally, emotionally evaluated, and then they investigate the incident to determine who's at fault.

02:29:05.000 And so that's again right away.

02:29:11.000 And from there they say, "Yeah, this is what happened.

02:29:15.000 None of it is your fault." Or they say, "This happened, but part of this is your fault." That type of thing.

02:29:21.000 All right, let's talk about that investigation.

02:29:23.000 Long statement coming up with our guest, April Gallup.

02:29:25.000 She survived with her newborn son in the Pentagon, where she held a top secret clearance with the SCI, with the U.S.

02:29:34.000 Army.

02:29:34.000 So we're going to go right back to her after the break and break down what she witnessed and what she saw and what she thinks about the official 9-11 fairy tale.

02:29:42.000 Stay with us.

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02:33:57.000 Amazing radio show so far today with David Icke and then the Bob Chapman on the show now April Gallup are really glad that our producer Trey's getting so many important people on the show before we go back to April just want to make it clear The establishment carried out these attacks because they knew we had a cognitive dissonance and they thought that we couldn't face the horror of that.

02:34:21.000 It's very cynical, very cold-blooded, and is the military mind, the cold-blooded war-planner mind.

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02:34:39.000 And it's not any pleasure or fun that we undertake this dangerous mission against you. 0.80

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02:37:59.000 Okay, going to April Gallup.

02:38:00.000 Thank you for holding during the sponsors that make the show possible.

02:38:04.000 Because I want you to be able to tell whatever part of the story you want.

02:38:06.000 You've told us up to this point.

02:38:08.000 Then they start the quote investigation.

02:38:11.000 In the 20 minutes we've got left roughly, run through then the rest of the story and boy is there a lot of it left and then tell us your take on what really happened on 9-11 being one of the victims of it.

02:38:23.000 Well it's a long story because again it's been a long journey and we're still battling in 2008 and the investigations remain ongoing and because every so many months during the medical evaluations the paperwork would get lost and so then we had to start all over again and begin the process all over again and so it stayed that way for many many years and then during one point in my medical eval

02:38:53.000 They were pretty much explaining to me that it wasn't appropriate to share that my son had been in the building that particular day and had gotten hurt.

02:39:04.000 And then I thought it was unusual when I asked, well, what in the world am I supposed to say?

02:39:08.000 Who am I supposed to say hurt him?

02:39:11.000 I mean, what in the world was I supposed to say?

02:39:14.000 And a lot of these incidences are so memorable because you wonder, how do you tell someone that?

02:39:23.000 Or, how do you come in a hospital with someone laid out and say, this is what happened, and never ask, well how are you?

02:39:30.000 When did you start to get suspicious about it not being an airplane that hit the Pentagon?

02:39:35.000 Well, because I, you know, when I was finally told, then I started asking questions.

02:39:43.000 Because of where I worked.

02:39:46.000 This was the Pentagon, supposedly one of the most secure buildings In all of the United States of America, and when you think about the budget, the technology, and things to that effect, my rationale was how on one particular day, nothing was functional and nothing was operational on that particular day.

02:40:07.000 I just was thinking, what was the odds?

02:40:10.000 And then, wow, jet fuel?

02:40:12.000 You know, then I looked up, you know, you know, You know, the jet fuel, what the impact would be like, and then I begin to question, well, how in the world, if this happened, how in the world are we not ashes?

02:40:27.000 Well, let's go back.

02:40:28.000 Yeah, I mean, the plane burns up, you're right in the hit zone, but doesn't hurt you or, you know, hurt you, but doesn't burn you up or your son, thank God.

02:40:36.000 And then later they start trying to pressure you about being wrong, even speaking to your friends and others about it, before you were even really speaking out about 9-11 itself being a fraud, did they start pressuring you to shut up?

02:40:51.000 Or when you started asking questions, what did they say about this?

02:40:54.000 Well, I started going public.

02:40:58.000 And then there were times where there were just particular comments being made as far as is it wise for me to say particular things when I am trying to get through these investigations. - So that's how the whole military is.

02:41:21.000 They're always investigating.

02:41:22.000 They're always saying you've done something wrong.

02:41:24.000 So they have something to hang over your head.

02:41:25.000 So now they're intimidating you.

02:41:27.000 Be quiet because you're under investigation.

02:41:30.000 I mean, it wouldn't be for operative.

02:41:32.000 It wouldn't be wise to just go up to somebody and say, well, you know, if you do this, we're going to do this.

02:41:38.000 It's another method.

02:41:39.000 It's more of, it's a more sensible yet direct method.

02:41:42.000 Like, is it wise for you to be doing this while you're trying to get, you know, your medical exam or your medical releases?

02:41:49.000 And if, just more, or, um, we don't think it's appropriate if you discuss that your child, a minor, was, you know, in this particular area during this particular time.

02:42:00.000 And then they changed it and said, well, weren't you there letting him visit people?

02:42:05.000 And I said, well, now, it was an inadvertent way of saying, well, why don't you tell people you were there, you know, visiting and showing around?

02:42:13.000 Instead, they say, well, why weren't you there letting him visit people?

02:42:17.000 And I said, well, how do you get inside the Pentagon?

02:42:19.000 How do you clear your child to get inside the Pentagon so she can show him off?

02:42:23.000 That's just not possible.

02:42:24.000 Well, let's go back now.

02:42:26.000 Yeah, you had said that nothing was working that day.

02:42:31.000 Break down what wasn't working that day, the stand down of Pentagon security.

02:42:36.000 Well, I mean with you, if you sit down and you do your homework and you look at the money that's spent, when you go back maybe four years prior, and you look at the Department of Defense budget, and you look at the money that's spent, So this building can be deemed the most secure building in all of the United States of America.

02:43:02.000 And then you look at how in the world was a plane even able to get within a certain radius of the building.

02:43:12.000 Now they admit they have missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, guns, all of this, always ringing it.

02:43:17.000 And then we know that day Dick Cheney ordered a stand down.

02:43:20.000 Right.

02:43:23.000 I mean, so you have to say You know, that leads to more questions.

02:43:28.000 You've got to understand, you know, everybody knows at this point that the official story was botched up.

02:43:35.000 They know the official story was botched up.

02:43:37.000 But, you know, there are certain things that lead to certain questions.

02:43:41.000 You know, how do you spend this money in this building?

02:43:46.000 And then on this particular day, nothing was functional.

02:43:49.000 Nothing was operational.

02:43:51.000 And this building, the most secure one in all the United States, was able to get attacked.

02:43:58.000 What's the probability of that?

02:44:02.000 I mean, you have to really look at that.

02:44:04.000 I mean, you really think about it.

02:44:07.000 It doesn't have a very high probability of something like that happening, especially today.

02:44:11.000 No, I agree.

02:44:11.000 Now, now, now, give people a basic overview of your story.

02:44:14.000 What this led to, lawyers, other things.

02:44:17.000 I mean, hit all the key points.

02:44:18.000 I mean, when I was, you know, again, you know, you know, then it went to Okay, something's got to be done.

02:44:27.000 But I'm more of an effective type person.

02:44:29.000 I'm not more of just talk.

02:44:31.000 I try to find ways to get things done.

02:44:33.000 So the first thing was I want to try to find a lawyer.

02:44:36.000 But it was very hard because no one wanted to take the case.

02:44:38.000 Then I started appealing to members of Congress.

02:44:41.000 Now that means take the case.

02:44:42.000 Tell people what you had a case about.

02:44:44.000 I mean specific.

02:44:47.000 Well, you know, It wasn't that it was clearly identified, because here you had the official story that was saying that it was a terrorist attack.

02:44:57.000 However, there were so many questions out there that would lead you to believe otherwise.

02:45:02.000 And they were... So with the legal action... And they were holding up... And with legal action, you can get those documents, and then you can put the pieces of the puzzle together.

02:45:12.000 Exactly, so you really start investigating.

02:45:15.000 Alright, so the purpose of the lawsuit was To try to obtain a lawsuit.

02:45:19.000 The purpose of it was the best way to get to the bottom of a situation is to litigate and have documents subpoenaed and obtained.

02:45:30.000 And then that way you can piece together what is true, what is fact.

02:45:34.000 This is what happened.

02:45:34.000 This isn't what happened.

02:45:36.000 Yeah, I've done that before.

02:45:38.000 You know, it got, you know, one, it was really hard to try to find attorneys who would take it.

02:45:45.000 We finally had two people now in 2008, so it's been a long standing.

02:45:54.000 We thought the commission was going to do something other than what it did, but then that wound up being a disappointment.

02:46:01.000 Finally in 2008, we've had two wonderful attorneys, which we'll come back probably another time and talk about pursuing litigation options.

02:46:14.000 That's only because that's how you're going to get the information.

02:46:17.000 Well listen, I knew they were taking down AXS TV on a smaller area and engaging in corruption, so I just sued them for one issue to get documents on another and caught them stealing, as I already knew they were doing, and sent the guy to Huntsville.

02:46:31.000 But then it went up to higher level folks in the city, so they killed the investigation.

02:46:35.000 Well, only him going to prison, Jean Villarreal.

02:46:37.000 But yes, you're right.

02:46:38.000 If you know there's dirt, and then you've got one claim, it's good to start a lawsuit to get in to something and burrow in.

02:46:45.000 It's a way to get in there and get the facts.

02:46:49.000 Right.

02:46:50.000 Now let's be specific.

02:46:52.000 You were there.

02:46:52.000 You went through this.

02:46:53.000 Have you ever had threats or intimidation after other than trying to go after your job or not give you medical releases?

02:47:02.000 All other key points before the show ends.

02:47:05.000 It was after that and after the questions came.

02:47:08.000 After I said there's no way I could possibly say my child wasn't there.

02:47:13.000 You know, I said, well, okay, these are very valid questions.

02:47:16.000 Because they were asking you to lie.

02:47:17.000 They were asking you to lie and say your child wasn't there.

02:47:20.000 They pretty much wanted me to say... They didn't say lie, they said it was inappropriate for me to discuss.

02:47:28.000 And so, but they wanted you to say, though, that your child wasn't there, though.

02:47:32.000 Right.

02:47:33.000 That I was there visiting.

02:47:34.000 I took him there to visit with other people, and I said, you don't bring your child... So they wanted you to say that you'd basically snuck your child in.

02:47:43.000 Pretty much, and I brought him there to visit with other people.

02:47:45.000 So day one you're in the hospital bed and they're telling you this is what you saw, this is what happened, and now they're trying to set dirt up on you and so you start to really ask questions.

02:47:56.000 I wasn't going to say it, so that was it.

02:47:59.000 The truth, I say the truth as I saw it from the perspective that I had, and that's what I stand on.

02:48:08.000 Okay, were there threats after that?

02:48:09.000 I mean, now that you've been public for the last year or so, or now longer.

02:48:13.000 It just seemed like, you know, actually I've been out from the beginning.

02:48:18.000 I just was trying to find other methods of doing things that had a little bit more teeth to it.

02:48:25.000 We've taken up this issue since January of 2002, and then November, about November, December, That's when we started trying to get attorneys.

02:48:34.000 So ever since then, something was wrong.

02:48:36.000 I mean, you didn't see a plane.

02:48:37.000 None of this happened. 1.00

02:48:39.000 You smelled a big, fat, dirty rat. 1.00

02:48:41.000 And so run over the high points. 0.99

02:48:43.000 I mean, run over the key things that have happened since then.

02:48:45.000 Well, afterwards, it was like, afterwards, a medical, an investigation is only supposed to take 90 days from the date of the event.

02:48:53.000 So that's from September 11, 2001.

02:48:54.000 90 days from September 11, 2001.

02:48:55.000 Investigation part for the medical Was not over until 2003.

02:49:02.000 Wow.

02:49:05.000 And then, and that was because every, it seemed like every two months, or close to the end, close to the beginning of third month, the paperwork would get lost.

02:49:14.000 And then we had to start all over again.

02:49:17.000 And then finally when that was done, all of a sudden, I would supposedly have been overpaid by the department, by the Department of Defense, a certain amount of money for this period of time, all of a sudden.

02:49:31.000 And it's in total violation of their regulation.

02:49:34.000 There's no way you'd be able to go... Okay, so there's all sorts of dirty tricks going on.

02:49:38.000 Did you start to figure out that something was wrong?

02:49:41.000 Right.

02:49:43.000 That evidently, either I was on to something, or they were concerned about something that I said, because the behavior, it just all got very unusual.

02:49:52.000 And most of the time when you see that, it can only mean a number of things, but again... April, when did you first start to think, hey, this is an inside job?

02:50:03.000 Well, I began questioning about the end of November 2001 and that's when I began to go on a search to find an attorney.

02:50:12.000 So it's not just, you know, Starting a year, or maybe people are just finding out about it, but it's been a long journey.

02:50:22.000 No, I know you've been out a few years.

02:50:24.000 But I mean, folks have only known about you for a few years, because you were kind of within the system trying to fix it from within.

02:50:29.000 I'm going to skip this break for Infowars.com audio stream listeners.

02:50:33.000 If you're listening to Genesis, you want to go over to Infowars.com and listen to the streams there.

02:50:38.000 If you want to hear the behind-the-scenes discussion.

02:50:40.000 For everybody else, On the wonderful AM and FM dial shortwave satellite.

02:50:44.000 We'll be right back with a final segment with April Gallup.

02:50:47.000 But we're going to skip that break right now for the folks listening at InfoWars.com.

02:50:51.000 Stay with me.

02:50:53.000 Okay April, we're down to the last 10 minutes and I want to support you to do what we can do for you.

02:50:59.000 Any websites, phone numbers, or how people can help you with your story.

02:51:02.000 It's amazing.

02:51:02.000 I believe it.

02:51:03.000 All the facts fit with it.

02:51:05.000 The photographic and other eyewitness reports.

02:51:07.000 I mean this whole thing just gets stranger and stranger.

02:51:10.000 Classic black op to shoot a missile into there and say it was an aircraft and have it fly low and the doomsday aircraft above.

02:51:17.000 Anything else you want to add or any harassment you went through or things that have developed along the way and where you're going in the future?

02:51:22.000 Just other parts of your story that need to be heard.

02:51:25.000 I mean, we're still fighting.

02:51:27.000 The battle still continues.

02:51:29.000 Mr. William Bill and another gentleman are interested in taking the case, but finances is always an issue.

02:51:35.000 So my goal is to try to see if people who are paralegal can volunteer their time to kind of help out.

02:51:42.000 If they want to help, Legal funds.

02:51:45.000 I have an address where they could send, you know, funds to.

02:51:49.000 And that's it.

02:51:50.000 We're going to keep fighting until the bids are in.

02:51:53.000 And so I'm not going to go anywhere.

02:51:54.000 And hopefully, you know, if everybody gets in, you know, you know, whatever they can, because it has to be done.

02:52:03.000 And unfortunately, you know, the legal remedy will be the way to get certain pieces of documents to get to what, you know, to come to the conclusion of this matter.

02:52:15.000 We tried everything else, and now it's going to have to be done legally.

02:52:19.000 Well, give out your address.

02:52:21.000 Okay.

02:52:22.000 I'll do that.

02:52:25.000 You can dig it out, and we can give it out later if you want to.

02:52:29.000 Yeah, there's a, I have it.

02:52:32.000 Do you want it or?

02:52:32.000 Yeah, let's give that to the full audience right at the end of the show when you leave us, because right now we're just on the Internet only with listeners.

02:52:40.000 But when we come back, you'll have about three minutes.

02:52:42.000 I mean, we've got folks watching and listening right now at PrisonPlanet.tv, but when we come back to the AM and FM audience, just nail it down.

02:52:52.000 Any other stories?

02:52:53.000 Anything else you want people to know about?

02:52:55.000 And bottom line, why you think they did it, who you think did it, where all the evidence from your in-depth research, where all of that points to.

02:53:05.000 And have that address ready to give out to people right when we come out of break here in about 30 seconds.

02:53:12.000 Again listeners, we had David Icke on during the second hour.

02:53:17.000 Today we had Bob Chapman with an incredible in-depth analysis of the economy for 40 minutes in the third hour and I walked through how they're planning to use the U.S.

02:53:26.000 military against the American people.

02:53:29.000 I can't believe how we just calmly report all of this now.

02:53:31.000 It's just kind of like, oh yeah, and Northcom says they're going to put combat brigades in the U.S.

02:53:35.000 to, quote, deal with riots and economic crises, and oh yeah, the country's bankrupt and trillions of dollars are being given to the bankers and all in our name, and oh yeah, I mean, it's just all getting so crazy right now, and just pray to God to help us.

02:53:51.000 Here we go, final segment, April.

02:53:57.000 Final segment with April Gallup.

02:53:59.000 It's also the final segment of this radio show.

02:54:03.000 Okay, April, any other key points you want to add?

02:54:05.000 And then you've got a legal defense fund address for folks that want to try to, or not even a legal defense fund, an exploratory legal fund to try to get in there and investigate what really happened at the Pentagon.

02:54:17.000 People can say, oh, there's no hope, so what?

02:54:19.000 Hey, all of us resisting in a million different ways, it's going to bring the New World Order down.

02:54:23.000 And in closing, I want you to tell us exactly what you think happened on 9-11.

02:54:27.000 Go ahead.

02:54:28.000 Okay, again, you know, For those that are following, those who haven't, it's obvious by many of the testimonies, whether it was done during the commission, there were many contradictions in testimonial statements, the official story was botched up, and you can't help but conclude that there was a large amount of negligence and an intentional act on that particular day.

02:54:54.000 But again, for us to bring a conclusion to the matter, it is going to take legal action.

02:54:58.000 So we now have to bring teeth to what we're trying to do and pull together a strong legal team.

02:55:04.000 So if you have paralegal skills, if you know a good attorney, please stand up and volunteer.

02:55:12.000 If everybody at the sound of my voice donated $5, that would be good.

02:55:17.000 You can send it to Attention Elijah's Fund, E-L-I-S-H-A comma S Fund, and you can put specifically legal if that's what you want it to go to.

02:55:29.000 And it can go to 1-1-0-0 Johnson Ferry F-E-R-R-Y Road Suite 9-0-0 Atlanta, Georgia 3-0-3-4-1 or you can call 1-800-983-6223 regarding where to send any other conceivable gift.

02:55:40.000 or you can call 1-800-983-6223 regarding where to send any other conceivable gifts.

02:55:54.000 This particular fund can take any conceivable gifts, but our goal is to continue in the battle.

02:56:03.000 But legal action is going to be the best way to get the missing pieces of the puzzle.

02:56:09.000 So that we can bring a conclusion to this matter.

02:56:11.000 Bottom line, you personally looking at it, is 9-11 an inside job?

02:56:17.000 I mean, when you say that, in what respect?

02:56:19.000 Well, I mean, clearly the official story is a fairytale.

02:56:22.000 Yeah, right.

02:56:22.000 The official story is botched.

02:56:24.000 And I do believe that there were intentional acts on that day.

02:56:28.000 Well, I don't think it's a bad way to do it.

02:56:30.000 to bring that to a conclusion and get those missing pieces to the puzzle.

02:56:35.000 And in order to do that, it would be wrong for me to make a final statement without conclusive evidence.

02:56:40.000 We need to get that conclusive evidence, and the best way we can do that is through litigation.

02:56:45.000 Well, I don't think it's a bad way to do it.

02:56:47.000 I don't think it's a bad way to do it, but, I mean, when you've got a duck swimming around in front of you quacking in the lake, you know it's a duck, and the evidence is just unbelievably overwhelming.

02:56:55.000 All over 9-11.

02:56:56.000 It's blatantly obvious.

02:57:00.000 I mean, it's blatantly obvious, and there's nothing else to say.

02:57:06.000 It's blatantly obvious.

02:57:08.000 But, you know, we've got to stand up, and we've got to do something.

02:57:13.000 We can't just let it die down, and we can't just keep talking about it.

02:57:16.000 We have to put some teeth to it.

02:57:19.000 I agree.

02:57:19.000 We've got to keep it moving or they'll stage more terror attacks.

02:57:22.000 It's absolutely key.

02:57:23.000 The fact that we have exposed it has probably backed them off a bunch of other attacks.

02:57:27.000 April, it's been great having you on.

02:57:28.000 I'm glad you and your son survived and thank you for your courage to stand up and speak out.

02:57:32.000 And we really appreciate you coming on the show today.

02:57:34.000 Thank you for your time.

02:57:36.000 I appreciate it.

02:57:37.000 You bet.

02:57:37.000 There she goes.

02:57:37.000 Pentagon survivor, April Gallup.

02:57:40.000 And what an incredible radio show today.

02:57:42.000 Woo! 0.99

02:57:44.000 David Icke coming up right after the break.

02:57:46.000 The show continues.

02:57:47.000 It never ends.

02:57:50.000 We'll be back in one minute, unfortunately not on our wonderful AM and FM affiliates, Global Sport Waiver Satellite, but we will be at one place on the InfoWars.com stream.

02:57:58.000 Those are different than any other streams on the web carrying the show, because on other streams it's just for those four hours.

02:58:03.000 On InfoWars.com, You'll hear David Icke coming up with some amazing new info, Bob Chapman, and in the first part of the show, first 30 minutes, I break down the U.S.

02:58:15.000 Army invading the U.S.

02:58:16.000 Not just a drill, the total end of posse comitatus, absolute high treason against the government and the people committed by the New World Order. 0.62

02:58:24.000 That is coming up in T-minus 70 seconds at one place, absolutely vital.

02:58:29.000 Please join us there.

02:58:30.000 We'll be right back at InfoWars.com.

02:58:32.000 God bless you all.

02:58:33.000 Great job, John and crew here.

Alex Jones Show - September 18, 2008

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