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00:00:25.000 Well, our guest is Roger D. Masters, Department of Government, Dartmouth College, Hanover, New Hampshire.

00:00:32.000 He's a research professor at Dartmouth College, a Nelson A. Rockefeller professor of government, emeritus at Dartmouth College, and president of the Foundation for Neuroscience and Society.

00:00:44.000 And if I went over his bio, it would take a long time to cover it.

00:00:49.000 After undergraduate study at Harvard, B.A.

00:00:52.000 55, and service in the Army, Masher has completed graduate work in political philosophy at the University of Chicago, where he wrote his doctoral dissertation under the direction of Leo Strauss and Joseph Cropsey.

00:01:03.000 And that's Leo Strauss, the big neocon kingpin.

00:01:07.000 The central theme of Master's work is the philosophical and scientific exploration of the role of human nature in political and social behavior.

00:01:14.000 Now, there's so much about this guy, his bio is about a hundred pages long, that for the next hour we have him.

00:01:21.000 I just want to let him introduce himself.

00:01:25.000 You know, tell you the stuff about him he thinks you should know.

00:01:27.000 And then I want to get into one of his big areas of research and in documenting is the fact that when they started putting fluoride and different derivatives of it in the water supply.

00:01:38.000 And why they do that.

00:01:39.000 And what the facts are you can go check for yourselves.

00:01:41.000 And of course his work ties into why is lawn fertilizer different than crop fertilizer?

00:01:50.000 Well, why do they say with lawn fertilizer don't put it on crops or your garden?

00:01:55.000 Because it's toxic waste.

00:01:57.000 It's the same thing with depleted uranium.

00:02:00.000 They've got all these thousands and tens of thousands, more than that, millions of tons of it.

00:02:05.000 They've got to put it somewhere.

00:02:06.000 It's very poisonous and radioactive.

00:02:08.000 So they put it into weapons.

00:02:10.000 It's hiding it in plain view.

00:02:12.000 And so we will discuss this today, because you see, fluoride is only a catchphrase or an overall name that they were able to pass laws through Congress for.

00:02:24.000 It's what goes along with what you know as fluoride in the water, and that's what he is an expert on, among other things.

00:02:31.000 And so we're very honored to have Roger D. Masters on with us today.

00:02:37.000 Thanks for coming on, Professor.

00:02:39.000 It's my pleasure.

00:02:40.000 Thank you very much for inviting me.

00:02:41.000 I appreciate it a great deal.

00:02:43.000 How did somebody who was under Leo Strauss get into the work of trying to warn people about fluoride in the water?

00:02:43.000 You bet.

00:02:49.000 Well, Strauss was an amazing thinker, and he wanted us to read a great book to try and figure out what that writer, whether it was Rousseau or Plato or whoever, what he was really trying to say that might be true.

00:03:05.000 The whole point about Western civilization is that we're a civilization that uses science to try to find out what is nature and human nature.

00:03:13.000 What's the truth about it?

00:03:16.000 And after a certain time, I realized that I was teaching all these old books like Plato or so, and that sometimes modern biology or modern science was showing that what they were saying in these books was false.

00:03:33.000 And I thought, gee, you know, I've got to tell people that this book, you know, John Locke saying that the brain is a blank slate.

00:03:42.000 Well, Gary, your brain isn't a blank slate.

00:03:46.000 It's a much more complicated piece of meat than that.

00:03:49.000 Gee, I've got to explain that's wrong.

00:03:51.000 Or, Rousseau says, humans were originally individuals running around all alone in the state of nature.

00:03:56.000 And then I read about the chimpanzees, and oh, they're not like that.

00:03:59.000 Oh, I've got to explain he was wrong.

00:04:01.000 And so I've been working on that for a long time and one thing leads to another.

00:04:07.000 How did you get into research on, at the end of the Manhattan Project, dumping it in the water supply?

00:04:12.000 I mean, I want to start at the beginning and walk through that, but first tell us what in your research led you to the mass chemical poisoning of the population?

00:04:21.000 What happened was I started thinking in just general terms about biology and human nature and I went to a conference And I heard a retired oil executive named Brett Hodges from California give a presentation on how violent criminals have high levels of either lead or manganese in their blood.

00:04:47.000 And this was very interesting to me, that we were putting pollution in the environment, never so lead toys are bad, you know, so a pollution is bad, but they don't talk about how it might change the chemistry of your brain.

00:05:01.000 And so I decided to study that.

00:05:03.000 Well that's the old saying of mad as a hatter because in the dying process they were using mercury and lead and things and so you'd be mad as a hatter.

00:05:11.000 Oh sure, sure.

00:05:12.000 And besides, what seems to have happened is that I mentioned this idea of a blank slate because there's this whole idea that everything we do is stuff we learn and there's no reason for understanding biology because it's deterministic or something.

00:05:26.000 When really you would say, what, 80% is nature instead of nurture?

00:05:31.000 Well, I think that we ought to start to forget that and look at the facts.

00:05:38.000 One of the things that Mr. Strauss taught us, he advised me when I finished my work, is always teach as if there's a silent student in class who knows more than you do.

00:05:53.000 He wasn't an ideologist himself, some of his students were, but if you imagine that, I have to imagine that there are some of your listeners We're going to know more than I do.

00:06:03.000 And if I make mistakes, I want them to correct me.

00:06:07.000 Because I think what makes our civilization special is this possibility of an open-minded study, so that if the government says, oh, it's a great thing to fluoridate water, and I come across the discovery, wait a second, what counts is which chemical you use, And we've got to re-look at that, and not just use one word, but say, wait a second, what are we actually doing?

00:06:31.000 What's the science of it?

00:06:32.000 So you're talking about kind of the private, individual, mass consciousness, or private intelligence agency, where we all integrate our own research, and then almost have our own private research going on, which then brings it all to a higher level.

00:06:50.000 So let's get to the point when you bump in... Let me explain how I got into this.

00:06:55.000 That is, I started to look at pollution with lead and manganese, and I had to figure out, well, what does lead do to the brain?

00:07:06.000 Now, lead has an effect on a particular chemical in the brain, a neurotransmitter called dopamine, and if you have a disturbed... Dopamine is the chemical that works all the centers of your brain, They're involved in making judgments.

00:07:22.000 It controls impulsiveness until you decide what's a good thing to do.

00:07:28.000 And so, I realized that there was a science about this that Americans had to know about.

00:07:36.000 Because if Americans don't know why lead is bad, or why manganese is bad, and they don't know that pollution means that a company says, oh, it's too expensive to clean up this pollution.

00:07:50.000 But they're poisoning the kids!

00:07:54.000 So I said, well, how is it poisoning the kids?

00:07:58.000 And so I began to do studies.

00:07:59.000 A simple study.

00:08:01.000 There are some counties in the United States where the EPA reports there's lead pollution.

00:08:06.000 And other counties where they report there's manganese pollution.

00:08:10.000 And I said, well, what kind of behavior is connected with lead pollution that we can measure?

00:08:16.000 Well, I remember, oh, Brett Hodges said violent crime, right?

00:08:20.000 Well, we've got good data on violent crime.

00:08:21.000 You know, we keep track of how many people kill other people.

00:08:23.000 And so you can take the data on where areas have more lead contamination, and then you look at the areas where they have crime statistics, and voila!

00:08:31.000 They lay over each other quite nicely, don't they?

00:08:34.000 Absolutely.

00:08:35.000 And to give you one example of that, which is just fantastic, we did something that was right when we banned leaded gasoline.

00:08:42.000 Because when we banned leaded gasoline, it had the effect of reducing the crime rate.

00:08:48.000 But not right away.

00:08:49.000 Crime rate dropped in 1991.

00:08:50.000 It was when the first generation of kids whose mothers weren't exposed to lead when they were pregnant.

00:08:59.000 And they weren't exposed anymore, so much, because there was no more leaded gas.

00:09:03.000 And that first generation, when they got to be 17 or 18, their criminal behavior just dropped way off.

00:09:08.000 And for those that don't know, in the 70s and 80s, it was just liquor store robberies, murder.

00:09:14.000 The murder rate was a lot higher.

00:09:15.000 I mean, it was really dangerous.

00:09:17.000 Absolutely.

00:09:18.000 And the cars were driving around shooting lead out the back.

00:09:21.000 That's right.

00:09:22.000 Which makes you violent in thousands of studies.

00:09:25.000 Sure, but I discovered there are lots of other things.

00:09:28.000 For instance, if you live in a community with a lot of old housing, since lead paint is on both the inside and outside of the old housing, people point out that kids find the taste of lead paint sweet, so they're more likely that it's a chip of paint, actually, and something to eat it.

00:09:47.000 But it's also true that, for instance, in the 9th Ward in New Orleans, which was reputed to be terribly violent, let's defer to that, there's a scientist down there who did some work and he found out that the big source of lead in the kids down there in the 9th Ward was the grass strip between the sidewalk and the street.

00:10:08.000 If the lead gas came out of those cars back before lead gas was banned, As particles in the atmosphere, they're dropped in the ground, and it's inert.

00:10:16.000 It just stays there forever.

00:10:17.000 So it gets in the grass, and the grass is wet one day, and the kid's running down the street, and he falls down, and they put his hand in the grass, and the next thing, he licks his hand, and before you know it, he's got the lead in his body.

00:10:30.000 You have to realize that there are many ways you can drive, as I put it, there's many ways to drive from Boston to Chicago, and there's many ways that a toxic chemical can get into kids.

00:10:42.000 If we get at this, we can cut down the cost of two things.

00:10:48.000 Three things, actually, that are important.

00:10:49.000 First, learning disabilities.

00:10:51.000 Special Ed is about $15,000 a year per kid, on some estimates.

00:10:56.000 I got evidence that these toxic chemicals increase the rates of learning disabilities.

00:11:02.000 Well, obviously, let me stop you.

00:11:04.000 I mean, lead, arsenic, mercury, fluoride.

00:11:09.000 Professor, and of course we should add, you've won a lot of international awards for your research.

00:11:13.000 Groundbreaking.

00:11:14.000 And now I'm just accepted, you know, basically as fact because it is.

00:11:18.000 But they knew 200 years ago that lead and mercury had all sorts of problems, made you go insane.

00:11:24.000 You know, they knew 100 years ago what fluoride did.

00:11:27.000 I mean, that's the University of Texas studies and German studies from 80, 90, 100 years ago.

00:11:33.000 So, I mean, here you are discovering that this really is increasing crime and anti-social behavior and a dumbing down, but now let's look at why they decided to put it in the water.

00:11:44.000 Well, first of all, I want to raise a question for you with what you just said.

00:11:52.000 It's not so clear that fluoride itself is always the problem.

00:12:01.000 I bet you know somebody who uses toothpaste with sodium fluoride in it.

00:12:05.000 Yes.

00:12:08.000 You have to have an awful lot of fluoride to cause a problem.

00:12:12.000 Obviously if you have too much of anything, get above a certain level, it's really bad news.

00:12:17.000 Well, see, that's the thing, Professor.

00:12:19.000 People don't know that the word fluoride is a coverall for dumping hundreds of things in the water, so maybe we should get to that and then break down the history of it, but go ahead.

00:12:29.000 Alright, well, look, the main thing is that in putting fluoride in the water, instead of sodium fluoride, most of it, over 90% of it, uses one of two chemicals.

00:12:42.000 either something called fluosilic acid, which has got two atoms of hydrogen, a silicon, and six atoms of fluoride, or sodium silicofluoride, which is two atoms of sodium, a silicon, and six fluorides.

00:12:54.000 That's a more complicated compound than sodium fluoride, which is one sodium, one fluoride.

00:13:00.000 And the sodium fluoride was tested for safety.

00:13:04.000 You put that in the water, the fluoride and the fluorine and the sodium atoms separate.

00:13:13.000 If the fluorine sticks to your teeth, the evidence was at the time that it toughens the surface of your teeth, so it's supposed to cut down cavities.

00:13:25.000 Now, the whole problem with these other chemicals, generally called silicofluorides, is that they have this other chunk to them, the two hydrogens, the silicon, and actually one or two fluorides.

00:13:37.000 It's a chemical.

00:13:39.000 The chemist I work with, everything in this is done with a chemist named Mara K. Copeland.

00:13:45.000 I really owe him a great deal because he's the one who got me started on looking at fluoride compounds.

00:13:51.000 He calls it an oligomer of silicic acid, which is a fancy word for just saying there's a chemical there that's left over after you put the silico fluoride into the water.

00:14:04.000 And so the real question is why do we put them in the water?

00:14:08.000 And so I'm going to ask you a question.

00:14:10.000 What agency of the federal government do you think decided to design the idea and got people to start putting a fluoride compound, not fluoride, it's a fluoride compound, in water supply?

00:14:21.000 The Department of Energy, after they had all these millions of tons of toxic waste piled up and they had some spills in Tennessee and other places that Killed some of the rivers.

00:14:36.000 Actually, it was before that.

00:14:38.000 Well, I know that it was the Department of Energy that went around all the cities and lobbied everybody, but, I mean, go ahead, give us the history, Professor.

00:14:44.000 The history goes back to World War II.

00:14:50.000 Yeah, the Manhattan Project, but I'm saying after... Actually, it goes back before that, because... Okay.

00:14:57.000 Well, tell us the whole history, then.

00:14:58.000 That's why we've got you here.

00:14:59.000 You're the expert on this.

00:15:00.000 Well, the history begins, actually, With Einstein coming to the United States and writing that letter to Roosevelt about the possibility of making a bomb that would make a huge explosion.

00:15:11.000 You know, Einstein wrote Roosevelt a letter about the possibility of having a nuclear bomb.

00:15:19.000 Then the Germans took over Czechoslovakia, called the Anschluss. 0.73

00:15:23.000 That was one of the things that triggered World War II, but when the Nazis went into Czechoslovakia, why'd they pick that place? 0.77

00:15:30.000 They occupied the place With the best uranium in Europe.

00:15:36.000 Now, one thing we forget is that when Einstein came to the United States as a brilliant physicist, there are other brilliant physicists who stayed in Germany.

00:15:47.000 Like Max Planck!

00:15:49.000 Yeah, and Hitler began a nuclear weapons project. 0.62

00:15:54.000 Now, in fact, we know two things about that that's worth mentioning, because I want the audience to have in mind that This is all secret during World War II.

00:16:06.000 This question of whether Hitler had the bomb, whether we didn't want anybody to know we were working on a bomb. 0.60

00:16:11.000 Well, he really did.

00:16:12.000 We only had enough to test one at the end of the... near the end of the war, they did that secret deal.

00:16:18.000 I'm sure you know about this, Professor, with the U-boat trading in exchange for safety in South America.

00:16:25.000 Sure, but the question is, first of all,

00:16:33.000 What is not generally known is that there's a question of why Hitler didn't make more progress with the Great Physicist, and there's a rumor, it's never been proved, we have no evidence for it, it's a guess, that some nuclear physicists, and perhaps the Great Physicist, Heisenberg, arranged for the experiments to fail because they didn't want Hitler to have

00:17:02.000 Well, the one thing we do know is that Hitler had a huge supply of uranium that he had separated.

00:17:09.000 You have to separate uranium from other elements in rock.

00:17:12.000 It's a little difficult to enrich it.

00:17:14.000 You know, all this stuff we hear about these centrifuges now.

00:17:17.000 You have to do something to make the uranium into a state where it can cause a bomb.

00:17:22.000 And Hitler put his uranium in a place in Norway called Tenemunde, where he put the uranium in something called heavy water, which was Which absorbs radiation, so it couldn't explode. 0.71

00:17:35.000 They weren't sure what to do with their uranium, so it wouldn't have an accident.

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00:17:43.000 forces that followed it when it went across the lake on the barge and sunk it.

00:17:48.000 So, we destroyed his uranium, and that set that whole thing way back.

00:17:48.000 That's right.

00:17:54.000 Hitler himself was apparently not as good as there are some reports.

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00:21:13.000 Roger Masters is our guest.

00:21:23.000 A lot of his material is published online.

00:21:26.000 He's a top academic and professor at Dartmouth School of Government, Department of Government, with an Elson A. Rockefeller Professor of Government Chair, basically, and he was under the Head honcho of the neocons, Leo Strauss.

00:21:44.000 Before he leaves us, I'll get him to diverge and get a little bit into that.

00:21:49.000 But he got into researching what is fluoride, what are the different types of fluoride, why is it being put in the water.

00:21:55.000 We now have all these studies from all over the world, what it does.

00:21:58.000 And boy, it is not pretty.

00:22:01.000 But he doesn't even want to get into that issue.

00:22:02.000 He just wants to get into why it was put there.

00:22:04.000 And so, please continue.

00:22:06.000 You've gotten up to the German atomic program.

00:22:10.000 I want to get through why it was put there and focus on what it does.

00:22:12.000 I want to spend most of this time on what it does.

00:22:15.000 I want to explain, though, that the start of putting any fluoride in water was super secret.

00:22:22.000 Because the Manhattan Project had a problem in the 1940s.

00:22:25.000 They didn't want anybody to know how far advanced we were in making a bomb.

00:22:32.000 And we only had a very poor level of a supply of uranium in the United States.

00:22:38.000 It's in rocks.

00:22:40.000 that you have to break down and grind up and then put an acid in to separate the various elements.

00:22:49.000 And so it's a little bit complicated to get the uranium out compared to what Hitler had in Czechoslovakia.

00:22:56.000 And the consequence of that is that you had a waste product that was a very powerful acid.

00:23:03.000 And the scientist who was responsible for the machinery to separate out that toxic acid from the sludge, a man named Byron Coppola, chemical engineer, brilliant chemical engineer, when he heard that I was doing work on how love and manganese caused when he heard that I was doing work on how love and manganese caused crime or is associated with crime, he got in touch and said, do I know I said, I don't know anything.

00:23:29.000 And so I did all the work with him.

00:23:29.000 I've never even heard of them.

00:23:33.000 This is all a research project that comes from somebody else telling me, oh, I wasn't paying attention to something important.

00:23:41.000 And he knew about that because he was the chemical engineer involved in the whole process.

00:23:47.000 And so everything I say is the result of what two people have done.

00:23:52.000 I've been working with somebody else, and I should tell you one thing.

00:23:57.000 Mike is the kind of scientist who isn't afraid of saying, we're on a phone call like this, and he'll say, hey, Roger, shut up and listen to me, because I've made a mistake in chemistry.

00:24:08.000 And I make mistakes in chemistry, I rely on him.

00:24:11.000 uh...

00:24:12.000 Science is about being able to engage in discussion, and so you should stop me any time when I get into the facts of the case that I've discovered, and say, well, what do I mean, or what about what, and so forth.

00:24:26.000 Still, the big thing is that Because putting fluoride in water had to be secret, so people in Germany or Japan didn't know how much uranium we were processing.

00:24:40.000 Everybody talked about putting fluoride in water.

00:24:43.000 And the Manhattan Project started by putting sodium fluoride, which is the simple thing we have in toothpaste, in a couple of places.

00:24:51.000 They compared two towns in New York, and there was no problem.

00:24:54.000 And once they got it approved, they switched.

00:24:58.000 And then they could dump Now let's be specific.

00:25:00.000 into a water supply because they were assuming that it would dissolve or dissociate into its elements.

00:25:07.000 And since they assumed, literally, the approval was based on an assumption that all of the fluoride would come off the molecule without any reference to the rest of the molecule.

00:25:19.000 Now let's be specific.

00:25:20.000 You can have all the secret operations you want, but if you've got so many thousand drums of this byproduct at this plant, the Germans can come take photographs of it, observe it, and then know how much of the isotopes you need that you're able to extract.

00:25:38.000 So they, quote, secretly start dumping it in the water, and then at the end of the war they've got to get rid of the toxic waste.

00:25:46.000 So they just say, ah, it's nutritious!

00:25:50.000 We'll be right back with our guests in just 70 seconds.

00:25:52.000 Stay with us.

00:25:55.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

00:25:58.000 So many thousand drums of this by-product at this plant, the Germans can come take photographs of it, observe it, and then know how much of the isotopes you need that you're able to extract.

00:26:10.000 So, they quote, secretly start dumping it in the water, and then at the end of the war they've got to get rid of the toxic waste.

00:26:19.000 So they just say, ah, it's nutritious!

00:26:22.000 We'll be right back with our guest in just 70 seconds.

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00:27:10.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:27:12.000 We're about to give up a key of this interview.

00:27:24.000 Thank you.

00:27:26.000 And that is...

00:27:28.000 The name fluoride blurring the whole debate.

00:27:32.000 We're not talking about fluoride.

00:27:34.000 And as my guest was saying during the break to me, he said, look, it's not true.

00:27:37.000 There hasn't been a lot of studies of what's actually being put in the water.

00:27:41.000 There's been studies of sodium fluoride alone.

00:27:43.000 He's actually absolutely right.

00:27:46.000 The studies show that sodium fluoride alone, and he could differ, but the studies show increases in bone cancers in males, calcification of glands, But then he's going to come back and say, well, those are studies calling it fluoride, but it's really this other chemical compound that's a mixture of fluoride and other things.

00:28:04.000 So, you know, really one of the world experts on this with the chemist, top chemist he's been working with.

00:28:11.000 Please continue, sir.

00:28:12.000 Let's get right into it.

00:28:14.000 OK, well, look, let me start explaining things very simply.

00:28:19.000 This silico fiber breaks down.

00:28:21.000 First of all, it has the effect, which is very big, of increasing The amount of lead that a child will absorb if he's living in an old house with lead paint or any place in the environment where there's lead.

00:28:35.000 So we did some studies in places where there was evidence of children's blood level by the community where they lived.

00:28:45.000 Three big samples, one in Massachusetts, by county, one in New York State, by county, and then the National Health and Nutrition Evaluation Survey is the third study.

00:28:54.000 And three different, big, huge samples.

00:28:57.000 You know, one of 400,000 kids.

00:28:59.000 And you just do statistical analysis.

00:29:03.000 Okay, what's the average level, or percent of kids, for instance, who have more than what was the conventional level of danger, which is 10 micrograms per deciliter.

00:29:15.000 That is, how many kids have high blood lead, or what's the average blood lead?

00:29:19.000 And what we found is that where there's silico fertilizer in the water, I've taken everything into consideration, like economics and race and everything else.

00:29:30.000 Where there's silicone in the water, there's more lead in the kids.

00:29:33.000 And it's partly because silicone is a complicated atom that combines a lot of other things, and the chemistry of that, that's not my business.

00:29:44.000 What's my business is the effects of it.

00:29:46.000 And all the statistics involve taking lots of things into consideration, Amazing!

00:29:52.000 And what we then found was that, oh, where there's pollution with lead, if there's also silico fluoride in the water compared to where there's pollution with lead and no silico fluoride, oh, where there's lead and silico fluoride, that adds another, roughly speaking, where there's lead and silico fluoride, that adds another, roughly speaking, another 100 or 150 violent crimes for every 100,000 people drinking the Amazing.

00:30:21.000 Now, interviewing chemists and doctors on this subject, they describe fluoride and the different variants of it.

00:30:27.000 That's why Prozac is made out of it and so many other things.

00:30:30.000 It's amazing because it's electrically basically charged and it just binds to everything.

00:30:35.000 It goes through everything.

00:30:36.000 It's really an active volatile thing to put that in dumbed down layman's terms.

00:30:41.000 Is that accurate?

00:30:43.000 My concern is not with the fluoride.

00:30:46.000 It's with this other chemical and the point is that this other chemical, silicon fluoride, When you put them in water, the German study by Westendorf in 1975 is the only major study in the literature, and it showed it had big effect on brain chemistry.

00:31:05.000 Okay, so separately... Okay, we keep calling it fluoride, but there's a different family of different compounds.

00:31:11.000 What are they putting in the water in the cities?

00:31:13.000 Over 90% of water fluoridation uses one of these two silico fluorides, either phosphoric acid, which is a liquid, Or Sodium Silicofluoride, which is very close, closely resembles it, but it's solid and it's in pebbles.

00:31:29.000 In little pebbles.

00:31:30.000 But these Silicofluorides are totally different from Sodium Fluoride, and they have these harmful effects on children or adults, and they have never been tested.

00:31:44.000 The key thing, first of all, that they've never been tested.

00:31:48.000 Don't take that, that's not my word.

00:31:50.000 The National Toxicology Program, in 2002, nominated these two chemicals for study on the grounds that their toxicology was not known.

00:31:59.000 That is, the study of how they harm the brain or the body was not known.

00:32:03.000 But it is known that they harm.

00:32:05.000 Stay there.

00:32:06.000 break.

00:32:06.000 Stay there.

00:32:06.000 A quick break.

00:32:07.000 We'll be right back, Professor.

00:32:08.000 Thank you, Professor.

00:32:20.000 Don't take that, that's not my word.

00:32:22.000 The National Toxicology Program, in 2002, nominated these two chemicals for study on the ground.

00:32:29.000 Their toxicology was not known.

00:32:31.000 That is, the study of how they harm the brain or the body was not known.

00:32:35.000 But it is known that they harm.

00:32:37.000 Stay there.

00:32:38.000 A quick break.

00:32:38.000 Stay there.

00:32:39.000 We'll be right back, Professor.

00:32:40.000 Thank you, Professor.

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00:35:31.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:35:35.000 This is really important information, ladies and gentlemen.

00:35:53.000 I've got some more vital information.

00:35:55.000 It'll be a surprise at the bottom of the hour after our guest leaves us.

00:35:58.000 We've got to move quick, Professor, because we've only got about 21 minutes left with you.

00:36:02.000 I think for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers and InfoWars.com listeners, though, I'm going to skip this next break coming up, because this is so important.

00:36:10.000 And I've also got one of your studies here, the silico fluorides in higher blood lead, a national problem that particularly harms blacks.

00:36:18.000 This is online as well, so before you leave, I want people to be able to go and read for themselves the different studies that you and your colleagues have done.

00:36:28.000 Okay, continuing.

00:36:29.000 Now, we kind of skipped ahead here.

00:36:31.000 When did they decide to put these two different chemical compounds that they use publicly?

00:36:37.000 The cover story is it's fluoride, but it's even more than that.

00:36:40.000 And the studies that it's binding other heavy metals, bringing things in.

00:36:47.000 I'll have to commit that I don't know some of the things that you have mentioned at all.

00:36:50.000 know other compounds of toxic waste and called it fluoride and put that directly into the water so i mean you know hit all the key points for us please sir i understand it's academic and there's different facets to each little sub area but give us an overview i'll have to commit that i don't know some of the things that you have mentioned at all uh maybe it's just the professors that cut tunnel vision but all i focus on

00:37:14.000 is that once we started to get rid of this waste from separating the uranium from the rock and decided to just throw that in the water supply because it was assumed that that they would all come apart and it was never tested and as i said the national toxicology program in 2002

00:37:38.000 Formerly nominated a chemical to be studied because how toxic it was wasn't really understood or how it worked.

00:37:44.000 Now, what, two years ago?

00:37:45.000 It was just the 40s.

00:37:46.000 It started in the 40s, putting it in the water.

00:37:50.000 Well, I was going to say, they're just now looking at studying it thanks to your work and others.

00:37:53.000 But, what, two years ago, the American Dental Association said children shouldn't be brushing their teeth with fluoride until they're, what, six or seven?

00:38:02.000 Well, one of the things that has been a problem is that the American Dental Association and the AMA have repeatedly spoken about fluoridation as good.

00:38:15.000 And they have not dealt with the fact that there were no studies of fluoridation.

00:38:22.000 of the safety of the silico fluoride.

00:38:24.000 All the studies were on the safety of sodium fluoride.

00:38:27.000 Now, let's be clear.

00:38:28.000 So it's as if I tell you, well, it's a good thing to have, let's say, a calcium pill in the morning.

00:38:36.000 So here's another pill, and it turns out to have arsenic in it.

00:38:39.000 Well, you know, because one thing is good doesn't mean another thing is good.

00:38:43.000 They say milk is good, but it isn't milk, it's battery acid that kids are drinking.

00:38:43.000 Exactly.

00:38:49.000 So let's say sodium fluoride is good for your teeth and good for you, which there are studies on and it shows they're not.

00:38:54.000 But regardless, let's just say it's good.

00:38:57.000 What you're saying is, what we're hearing as, quote, fluoridation, isn't even that at all, and the studies are clear it's bad, they just don't know why, and now that's being looked at.

00:39:10.000 Yeah, and look, let me give some concrete numbers.

00:39:15.000 When you have lead in the water, or in the environment, the pollution in the environment, there's a higher lead in the kids.

00:39:25.000 But when you have the silico fluoride, it goes up.

00:39:28.000 So that just the lead alone, that increases the lead in kids' blood, okay?

00:39:37.000 It's about The measure of micrograms per deciliter is about one of those measures, let alone... The silico fluorides boost these other poisons.

00:39:53.000 That's right.

00:39:54.000 It goes up in whites by another microgram per deciliter, from about 2.3 to 3.5.

00:39:59.000 2.3 to 3.5.

00:40:02.000 In blacks, it goes up about 2.5, from 5.5 to 8. 0.97

00:40:08.000 That is, it way increases the vulnerability of blacks. 0.99

00:40:13.000 Oh, it just so happens to hurt blacks? 0.98

00:40:16.000 I'm sure that hurts the feelings of the eugenicists that happen to run our entire government. 0.91

00:40:21.000 Well, look, let me not get into eugenicists and just get into science because the main thing is that the effects of lead include learning disabilities, substance abuse, and violent behavior.

00:40:35.000 Oh! 0.60

00:40:36.000 Because lead destroys the ability of the brain chemicals that inhibit your behavior.

00:40:43.000 It just slows down your impulsiveness.

00:40:46.000 The brain chemicals aren't working right if you've got a lot of lead in your system.

00:40:51.000 If you have a lot of it, it'll kill you.

00:40:54.000 When I was on the Get the Lead Out of Vermont Task Force, the government task force in Vermont, we looked at this tradition of saying that, well, Only get worried if there's over 10 micrograms per deciliter of lead in the blood.

00:41:08.000 And we found there was no level of lead in the blood that was completely without action, and we lowered the state The state level of concern from ten to five.

00:41:19.000 Because where you have silico fluorides, then the whole scale has to be changed because it boosted.

00:41:25.000 How much does it boost?

00:41:27.000 That's right.

00:41:28.000 I know you were just giving us the numbers, Professor, but give us those numbers again.

00:41:31.000 Let's say you've got a Caucasian versus a Negroid, you know, in the same city with a set amount, and then give us the differences there. 1.00

00:41:42.000 Well, if you take the White kids who have low silico fluoride and lead, they get up to about three and a half from two and two thirds or something like that. 0.82

00:42:01.000 The black kids, it goes up from five and a half to eight. 0.96

00:42:05.000 So that blacks are just much more vulnerable. 0.95

00:42:07.000 Partly this is poverty. 0.97

00:42:10.000 And it's calcium.

00:42:13.000 In particular, and lots of other things.

00:42:14.000 The chemistry of the body is complicated.

00:42:16.000 Well, are there studies on that?

00:42:18.000 I mean, you're saying it's the diets of the blacks, or is it on average the metabolic difference?

00:42:26.000 When I do these studies, I'm just doing population studies to find out where it's bad.

00:42:30.000 But certainly you've had other scientists contact you that have an idea why it's so much more worse for blacks.

00:42:37.000 When we take the best evidence we've got and look at the difference between poor kids and kids who have average or above average income, poor kids, whether they're white or black, whether they're exposed to silico friars or not, it's always the poor kids who are most vulnerable to lead.

00:42:56.000 And those vulnerabilities are much worse for blacks, and for everybody, they're much worse for the silico flora.

00:43:02.000 Well, here's an example.

00:43:03.000 There's more diabetes in, quote, Hispanics that have the, you know, Native American bloodline, and then certainly, you know, the cliché is true that, quote, Natives can't drink as much whiskey as, say, a Northern European who's had in their development, you know, generationally more drinking. 0.90

00:43:21.000 And of course that gets into, you know, development and species.

00:43:24.000 But I understand it's too many disciplines here and you're a scientist, you like to, or a professor who likes to look at the science and just go with what you have.

00:43:30.000 So you're saying it's not a genetic difference or you don't know between blacks and whites.

00:43:35.000 Well, actually the point is we think about genes versus environment.

00:43:41.000 The phrase genes versus environment is like saying when you write an answer in long division Do you use the even numbers only when you write the answer, or the odd numbers only? 1.00

00:43:55.000 You're going to say, Masters, you idiot! 0.98

00:43:57.000 I use both even and odd numbers. 1.00

00:44:00.000 You're not going to say, oh, you can use both even and odd ones.

00:44:03.000 The point is that everything in life involves what are called interactions between the human and the environment.

00:44:09.000 And that's the problem with most professors and academics and scientists, is they do narrowly only look at one little area, instead of that integration of the info.

00:44:09.000 No, I agree.

00:44:18.000 That's what I'm trying to do with my last year's research.

00:44:21.000 To try and show how, once you look at the integration, sometimes you find that there's one thing that's easy to change.

00:44:29.000 The message I want your listeners to hear is simple.

00:44:33.000 This stuff in the water has never been tested for safety.

00:44:37.000 Turn it off.

00:44:38.000 And make sure it isn't put back in the water until it's tested and proven to be safe by utterly independent people.

00:44:44.000 And I don't mean the bureaucrats and government agencies.

00:44:47.000 They like to cover up mistakes.

00:44:49.000 As I keep on asking people, when was the last time you heard of a bureaucrat who admitted his pants were around his ankles?

00:44:55.000 Well, why is it that it's known that these fluoride compounds that resemble Prozac are being put in the water?

00:45:04.000 And it just accidentally does all of this.

00:45:07.000 And then the original studies I saw in Pulitzer Prize winning books from World War II is the Soviets and Germans believed But let me ask you a question.

00:45:15.000 fluoride compounds had a calming effect but your studies and real you know peer-reviewed studies show that actually it binds heavy metals and toxins that are associated with violent behavior because of suppression of you know but let me ask you a question because chemical chemical compounds that differ and when they differ they have different effects

00:45:37.000 it's like by asking the question when i'm talking to students tell me if you drink scotch bourbon and vodka in the same night, is that different than just drinking at one spot?

00:45:47.000 Yes.

00:45:47.000 I never, no student didn't admit that, well, mixing scotch, bourbon, and vodka was a very bad idea.

00:45:54.000 I tried it once, my parents had a cocktail party when I was just going into my sophomore year of high school.

00:46:01.000 They went out after the cocktail party and left a lot of glasses around.

00:46:04.000 I decided to try them all at one night.

00:46:06.000 Oh boy!

00:46:08.000 Boy!

00:46:08.000 Morning?

00:46:09.000 I did the exact same thing a few times, yeah.

00:46:12.000 I didn't dare tell my mother what happened, but I thought I'd roll my head down the sidewalk nice.

00:46:17.000 But don't mix your drinks.

00:46:20.000 And in the same way, when we mix chemicals, we have effects that we don't have one at a time.

00:46:26.000 This is important because basically, The government regulates, the EPA, one thing at a time.

00:46:35.000 And there's another thing, which is just in the paper today about, I think it's report, that there's a, the EPA has found a compound that seemed to be really dangerous, and they wanted to have some rules on it, and the White House intervened.

00:46:49.000 And change the document to take some of the stuff out.

00:46:53.000 That's right.

00:46:54.000 Now the White House, now the White House is practicing medicine, science.

00:47:00.000 They just decide on a whole host of issues.

00:47:03.000 We're going to skip this break with our guest.

00:47:05.000 We have a full ten minutes left with him.

00:47:06.000 Got to go to InfoWars.com here, this part of the M and F stations.

00:47:09.000 We'll be back in just a few minutes.

00:47:11.000 Roger D. Masters, research professor at Dartmouth College, is our guest.

00:47:15.000 I'm going to skip this break and talk to him.

00:47:18.000 Look, bottom line, I want to explain to the listeners out there, and this is a fact, that we're told it's just fluoridation.

00:47:26.000 When they can argue about that and then argue about what type of fluoride, calcium, stannous, sodium, but it's mainly, quote, sodium they claim they put in the water.

00:47:33.000 But when you really look at it, that's the same thing I see with DU.

00:47:37.000 They got a toxic waste, gotta get rid of it, they just put it in weapon systems and spray it around everywhere.

00:47:41.000 Or they've gotta get rid of all the heavy metals and stuff that are left over from aluminum plants.

00:47:49.000 And also, the manufacturer of different chemicals and the breakdown of petrochemicals making gasoline, and they just put that into lawn fertilizer and say, well, it doesn't get in our crops.

00:48:01.000 Don't put it on crops you eat, but put it on your yard and it's lead and arsenic and all these toxins and your dog lays in it and its hair falls out, but it still runs right into your aquifer, so you drink it.

00:48:13.000 So, I mean, what I'm really interested in, Professor, is this practice of claiming a dangerous, expensive, toxic waste that, for the strategic reasons in the economy, they want to delist as a toxic waste, and then they put, you know, use things as a cover to put it into, and that's what I see as the story of chemicals they were using, you know, during the atomic bomb production.

00:48:37.000 Any comments on that front?

00:48:39.000 For sure.

00:48:40.000 The point is that when you think of humans, say, 200,000 years ago, if you had some junk, I suppose you might throw it in the water and say, well, it'll float down the river and be gone.

00:48:50.000 But we now have a highly technical society.

00:48:55.000 They thought just throwing this in the water supply, it would disappear and it would be gone, but it turned out to be dangerous.

00:49:02.000 And let me give a couple other statistics.

00:49:05.000 Where this is in the water, there's a higher rate of cocaine use.

00:49:09.000 Now, we measured that by the arrests, the proportion of people who are, uh, when you arrest violent criminals, who test positive for cocaine.

00:49:21.000 Where there's, uh, where there's, uh, you can go from two people who are violent with, uh, uh, two out of a thousand criminals, uh, testing positive for cocaine, where there's no silico fluoride, and, and, uh, You go up by a couple where there's silico fluoride and you go up by even a little bit more if there's both silico fluoride and lead.

00:49:47.000 So what I'm trying to get to is that we've got to put the dots together and be aware that when you have dangerous things, don't use them until you've tested them for safety.

00:50:00.000 We think of that, obviously, if somebody starts selling a pill to cure a head cold.

00:50:05.000 But why is it any different for putting something in the water I mean, you can brush your teeth, for goodness sakes!

00:50:10.000 That is, the scientific community hasn't studied this.

00:50:15.000 And one thing to remember is Einstein's advice about working in science.

00:50:20.000 He said that you have to be intelligent and very, very stubborn.

00:50:25.000 A chemical engineer is intelligent and very stubborn, but the critical thing here is that When you have a new idea, what Einstein pointed out is, at first you're completely ignored.

00:50:37.000 Nobody pays attention to you.

00:50:39.000 We've been working on this for over 10 years, and at first absolutely nobody paid attention.

00:50:43.000 Then you're attacked. 1.00

00:50:44.000 Oh, this is junk science, this is foolish. 0.99

00:50:47.000 And then ultimately, everybody's going to agree it's true. 0.99

00:50:50.000 That's what Einstein had with relativity.

00:50:52.000 And I think once people begin to ask the question, have you tested this stuff for safety?

00:50:58.000 What's the evidence?

00:51:00.000 My website, We're going back to the full audience.

00:51:04.000 Backslash, backslash, www.dartmouth.edu.

00:51:12.000 Dartmouth is D-A-R-T-M-O-U-T-H. College. Dot. E-D-U. Slash.

00:51:19.000 Isn't that a little tilde?

00:51:21.000 rmasters.

00:51:22.000 Forward slash.

00:51:23.000 P-I-N-F-O dot H-T-M. 1.00

00:51:25.000 We're going back to the full audience.

00:51:26.000 Here we go.

00:51:27.000 Professor Masters wants you to go to his website.

00:51:41.000 It's http://www.dartmouth.edu.

00:51:49.000 It's much easier just to type in Roger D. Masters into Google and it's the top link that comes up.

00:51:58.000 You can read his research papers.

00:52:00.000 And so much more.

00:52:01.000 I mean, this is a nightmarish compound that they just accidentally decided out of the Manhattan Project to put in our water supplies.

00:52:12.000 It was all just an accident.

00:52:14.000 And it accelerates absorbing heavy metals and other toxins, causes massive increases in the brain, being drug addicted to cocaine.

00:52:22.000 He was just going all over the study numbers on that.

00:52:24.000 Massive increases in violent crime.

00:52:26.000 It's all just an accident, you know.

00:52:29.000 Again, it's a complete accident that any of this is going on.

00:52:34.000 And, of course I'm being sarcastic, but he just covers the scientific fact.

00:52:39.000 Okay, you were plugging your website as we came out of the break.

00:52:41.000 Why do folks need to go there, Professor Masters?

00:52:45.000 I was going to say, the website, the way I usually say it is after the tilde R Masters slash, the letter is A-H-A-B-S slash.

00:52:59.000 Uh, at the very end.

00:53:00.000 So if you have trouble getting me with something at the end, go back to the cutoff end until you get to the R Masters slash H-A-B-S and if that's a problem, just go back to the R Masters.

00:53:00.000 end.

00:53:13.000 I found with radio, you try to give out long addresses, it doesn't Folks need to Google, you know, Fluoride, Roger D. Masters, and they will, because I'm doing it here.

00:53:23.000 I'm testing it on Google.

00:53:25.000 It's all you.

00:53:26.000 People can read the studies and see the information.

00:53:28.000 I've got to get you back up for a part two. 0.84

00:53:30.000 We really appreciate you doing this tirelessly to try to warn the public.

00:53:34.000 You were making the point a few minutes ago, and I want you to take us out with us any other points you want to make, sir, that this is forced medicating with something they know has bad effects but don't know the full bad effects of, and you're saying it needs to be taken out.

00:53:47.000 But, I mean, do you see that happening?

00:53:50.000 I see more and more citizens who are concerned, and some people in the public area.

00:53:58.000 But I think one of our problems is the way we talk about they did this, they did that.

00:54:04.000 They are human beings like us.

00:54:07.000 I think it's only fair to say that most of the people in the public health sphere don't know much about the details of this research.

00:54:14.000 It's not that wide.

00:54:15.000 Yeah, they're compartmentalized.

00:54:19.000 And if you are in the medical profession, you've always been taught that fluoridation is a very good public step.

00:54:28.000 You've never heard of a difference between sodium fluoride and silico fluoride?

00:54:32.000 You think that fluoride is putting fluorine?

00:54:33.000 Nobody puts pure fluorine in the water, for a lot of technical reasons that my chemical colleague Mike Copeland would explain.

00:54:42.000 But the key, he's told me, the key thing is that there's some new scientific evidence.

00:54:48.000 We've published in journals like Neurotoxicology, which is the best journal in the world on how toxic chemicals harm the brain, published two papers in that.

00:54:58.000 So it's not just a funny professor from the Ivy League.

00:55:03.000 And if I'm wrong, I want to know I'm wrong.

00:55:05.000 But I think the crucial thing is when in doubt, for anything, the farm's health, behavior, Yeah, I mean, if they, quote, haven't studied it, which is their official story, why put it in when all the evidence shows it's not good for you?

00:55:23.000 But separately, they have studied different types of fluoride and what it does, and it calcifies bones, causes bone fractures, cancers radically shoot up in boys.

00:55:35.000 I mean, you know, just like all these studies on cell phones, my God, frying the testicles, frying the breast, frying any fast-growing cells that have a lot of hormonal flux going on that are already, you know, leaning towards being places where you'll have a cancer problem.

00:55:51.000 I mean, bottom line, Professor, they know what's going on at the top.

00:55:56.000 You're right, people mid-level and different compartments don't.

00:56:01.000 I mean, look how much trouble they go to to keep this stuff in the water.

00:56:06.000 I guess it's because they love us?

00:56:08.000 No, I think a lot of it is simply that people don't like to admit they made a mistake.

00:56:15.000 That is, a lot of it is just people want to have the idea.

00:56:20.000 You're in a bureaucracy, and a bureaucrat is a kind of territorial animal.

00:56:24.000 He owns his desk, and you better not get near it.

00:56:27.000 He's got a bunch of things, and he's in charge of that, and that's his stuff. 1.00

00:56:31.000 Well, my experience in the Army is that... Cover your ass. 0.98

00:56:36.000 Well, I think actually we ought to go back and have a good draft, because I think not only we've destroyed a military manpower, but it's a very good thing for people to discover. 0.99

00:56:46.000 First of all, the country has to have people to protect them.

00:56:49.000 Hold on, I'm going to skip this break, too.

00:56:50.000 I'm going to do three more minutes with our guests if you're listening on Infowars.com Okay Uh Professor, you're there, right?

00:57:06.000 Yeah.

00:57:07.000 Look, in closing, I want to get you back up on all these issues, but I wanted to talk to you about Leo Strauss, The End Justifies the Means.

00:57:17.000 What do you think of the fruit of Leo Strauss and the neocons?

00:57:22.000 Leo Strauss wasn't a neocon.

00:57:24.000 He was a believer in the need to read a great writer in the past, a great writer like Plato, Trying to figure out what he was trying to say.

00:57:35.000 Or Machiavelli.

00:57:36.000 Or Machiavelli.

00:57:37.000 And you have to figure out when you go to read Machiavelli, you have to realize that everything he says, on the surface of it, have some meaning that's a little subtle.

00:57:51.000 That's not trivial.

00:57:52.000 Machiavelli, the year before he wrote The Prince, he was tortured for a full year and in jail.

00:57:58.000 Because there was a change of government.

00:57:59.000 He's been a government official.

00:58:01.000 It was a very rebellious thing to do, to put out a blueprint of the black nobility's tactics. 0.99

00:58:11.000 He was letting out the trade secrets.

00:58:14.000 No, he wasn't at all.

00:58:15.000 What he was trying... Well, I got something... Machiavelli was a very... Machiavelli was a very devious man.

00:58:20.000 I've written... I've studied a lot... Well, I mean, I've read both his books, but that's it.

00:58:24.000 But, I mean, I take away from it that, you know, he was kind of pissed off, locked up in his house, kind of, you know, spilling the beans.

00:58:32.000 Are you saying it was propaganda against people?

00:58:34.000 No, no, no.

00:58:34.000 He was worried because he saw... Alright, I'll put it bluntly.

00:58:40.000 Machiavelli thought Christianity as a religion was bad. 0.96

00:58:44.000 Because it denied the natural desires like sex, sinful. 0.99

00:58:49.000 It was satanic.

00:58:49.000 He thought that was a bad thing to do.

00:58:51.000 It was not well.

00:58:52.000 He thought the church was corrupt.

00:58:54.000 He was trying to encourage people to go back to secular governments that separated religion from politics, which we now do and take for granted.

00:59:03.000 They don't do that in the Muslim world all the time, right? 0.99

00:59:06.000 So we better remember that there was a time, even in Western history, when the church had essentially a lot of political power.

00:59:16.000 Yeah, so it's kind of a pre-Illuminati type deal.

00:59:21.000 No, what he was trying to do was to figure out a way to get back to the frame of reference of pagan antiquity.

00:59:29.000 The only way he thought to do that was to shock people.

00:59:29.000 That's what I just said.

00:59:32.000 I know, pagan antiquity, that's what the Illuminati wants.

00:59:35.000 Well, all I'm saying is that he thought, he was a Republican, he believed in Republican government, But utterly secular Republican government.

00:59:45.000 So you like Machiavelli?

00:59:47.000 I think he's a very, very powerful thinker because he makes you ask questions about things you don't want to ask questions about.

00:59:55.000 That's what Charles tried to teach us.

00:59:55.000 Sure.

00:59:57.000 Sure, the hypocrisy of the time.

00:59:59.000 If you ask questions about things, the crucial thing for me is not what some thinker in the past said or didn't say.

01:00:06.000 But how you can use that to learn how to read a book, to read science... Hold on, Professor.

01:00:11.000 Hold on.

01:00:12.000 Hold on.

01:00:12.000 I mean, to pierce to the core of things through the propaganda.

01:00:15.000 I gotcha.

01:00:16.000 Let's do one more minute here.

01:00:16.000 Hold on.

01:00:21.000 I got into Straussian ideas.

01:00:25.000 The Professor's saying he's not a neocon.

01:00:29.000 Whatever, he hatched that.

01:00:30.000 He's the presenter of it.

01:00:32.000 And I brought up Machiavelli, and the professor got very possessive, I think is the word.

01:00:37.000 I'm like, I'm an expert on Machiavelli.

01:00:39.000 He was disagreeing with me.

01:00:40.000 And I'm sure he's right about the main reason Machiavelli wrote those books.

01:00:44.000 I mean, I read them like 15, 20 years ago.

01:00:47.000 The point is, and I've seen more modern forms of subterfuge, more subtle.

01:00:52.000 He was saying that he wanted us to go back to pagan antiquity.

01:00:55.000 and something more pure, I guess.

01:00:57.000 And that's what I was saying.

01:00:58.000 The Illuminati and all those guys that came a few hundred years later, that's what they said they were doing.

01:01:04.000 You were kind of saying, no, no, no.

01:01:05.000 I mean, I was saying the Illuminati, you said pagan antiquity.

01:01:09.000 I guess kind of this do as thou wilt or see through all the BS conventions.

01:01:15.000 I mean, expound on that for us.

01:01:18.000 Oh, the point is that Machiavelli was a friend of somebody named Leonardo da Vinci.

01:01:24.000 When he was in power in the Republic of Florence, he tried with Leonardo to change the bed of the River Arno to make the city of Florence a seaport.

01:01:41.000 Because with the discovery of America in 1492, the idea of making Florence a seaport, which could then engage in transatlantic trade, was very attractive.

01:01:53.000 And Machiavelli, as a politician, thought that was a very important thing.

01:01:59.000 He got Leonardo da Vinci to design this thing.

01:02:02.000 It would have worked, except that the engineers goofed up and it failed.

01:02:06.000 But Machiavelli was interested in connecting science and public policy.

01:02:10.000 And that's something that the people who read Machiavelli don't know because they don't pay enough attention to read him very carefully.

01:02:19.000 No, I remember seeing that, talking about how basically a bunch of twittering, you know, people, religionists, were blocking progress, and you're talking about the Renaissance, aren't you?

01:02:34.000 Oh yeah, but I mean, I wrote a couple in my book, Machiavelli, Leonardo, and the Science of Power, which I tried to deal with how Machiavelli and Leonardo represent two aspects of The beginning of modern society.

01:02:47.000 Modern society is unique in the world.

01:02:51.000 It would be the idea of using science the way we use science, and we take it for granted.

01:02:55.000 Don't realize that the way we take science for granted is that a lot of people elsewhere in the world, particularly in the Middle East, it's all heresy.

01:03:03.000 Well, I understand.

01:03:05.000 Tell me about this going back to the pagan roots.

01:03:07.000 Tell me about that.

01:03:08.000 Well, the main point is that Machiavelli thought you had to understand human nature as best you could without reading it through the filter of some book by somebody else.

01:03:24.000 Yeah, getting it from some religion.

01:03:26.000 Getting it from the oracles.

01:03:28.000 And in particular, he was worried about the way in which the Christian view of original sin, going back to the Hebrew view in the Bible of original sin, raised questions about things that were utterly natural.

01:03:45.000 And the point of this, St.

01:03:49.000 Paul wrote these letters and claimed that the word of Jesus as God had to be sent to all tribes, all nations.

01:04:00.000 That was what St.

01:04:01.000 Paul said.

01:04:04.000 What did Machiavelli realize when Amerigo Vespucci realized that this wasn't just an island, it was a continent?

01:04:12.000 In fact, he was the first thinker to know there was a continent between Europe and Asia.

01:04:16.000 Because his secretary, his assistant, Augustino Vespucci, was Americo Vespucci's cousin.

01:04:23.000 And so he knew right away that there was this whole continent where people had never heard about Christianity.

01:04:30.000 Well, how could God have been just because No, I understand.

01:04:34.000 No, no, I understand the whole argument.

01:04:36.000 You were not baptized.

01:04:37.000 You stayed in purgatory forever.

01:04:39.000 What kind of justice would God have if he left those people on this continent in purgatory forever with no chance of... 0.57

01:04:45.000 No, no, I understand the whole argument.

01:04:46.000 That's the induction into the Illuminati speech.

01:04:49.000 I understand all that.

01:04:50.000 I mean, listen, we've got to get you back up.

01:04:52.000 I didn't know you wrote a book about that, Professor, and we appreciate you coming on to explain to us that it's something far more complex than what we hear of as sodium fluoride being put in the water supply, and I hope you'll spend time with us again.

01:05:07.000 People can just Google Roger D. Masters and find out about your prolific work, and I appreciate your time.

01:05:13.000 Well, thank you very much for giving me a chance to Perhaps, encourage stopping the use of a dangerous chemical.

01:05:20.000 All right, thank you.

01:05:20.000 We appreciate your time.

01:05:22.000 Well, good luck and good health to you all.

01:05:23.000 Thank you.

01:05:24.000 Appreciate it.

01:05:27.000 Well, there we have it.

01:05:28.000 It's always back to the same thing.

01:05:30.000 Oh, man.

01:05:33.000 And let me tell you, they will have you believe that they are not religionist.

01:05:37.000 I don't know about him particularly, but they are religious in every sense of the word, ladies and gentlemen.

01:05:46.000 Okay, look, I wanted to play both these clips.

01:05:48.000 They're both like 10 minutes long.

01:05:49.000 They're up on InfoWars.com.

01:05:51.000 I may play one now and then do an overdrive.

01:05:55.000 And I've got to go to a meeting about the studio, the TV studio they're building.

01:06:02.000 Let's do 10 minutes of overdrive.

01:06:05.000 Can you do 10 minutes of overdrive?

01:06:07.000 Well, the problem is the network has the clip And I guess you can't keep my ISDN connected from Minnesota down here, can you?

01:06:18.000 To go into Overdrive?

01:06:21.000 John?

01:06:22.000 Actually, no, we cannot.

01:06:23.000 Hey, do me a favor then.

01:06:25.000 Email me that other clip, both the clips, the URLs.

01:06:27.000 Do you have those or did you flush those?

01:06:30.000 I can send you the links through Instant Messenger.

01:06:33.000 Yeah, we'll play Part 1 here and we'll play Part 2 in Overdrive from my studio.

01:06:40.000 Hell, I may just start doing five or six hours every day, you know?

01:06:44.000 Look, I know I opened the phones up hours ago and only took, like, five calls.

01:06:47.000 They're not people still holding, are they?

01:06:50.000 Yep, I gave you the fresh list on... Oh, goodness gracious, these poor people have been holding for hours and hours and hours.

01:06:57.000 And I've got an important meeting I've got to go to.

01:06:59.000 You know what?

01:07:00.000 We'll take their calls, too, before the show ends.

01:07:04.000 Joe, Mike, Mike, Billy, and Dr. Kelly.

01:07:08.000 Right?

01:07:09.000 Yep, that's the right one.

01:07:12.000 Okay.

01:07:13.000 Well, anybody, it won't be on the AM and FM dialogue or before we have internet or satellite, but it will be on the internet.

01:07:17.000 Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:07:21.000 You will be able to see the clip.

01:07:23.000 I'll just play it from there.

01:07:26.000 Let's go ahead now and do this.

01:07:28.000 I wanted to spend a whole show on this, and I think tomorrow I'm going to comment on this more. 0.94

01:07:36.000 But I found all these old militia clips from Donahue and other shows, and Donahue is acting like a complete clown.

01:07:43.000 I used to really hate him for this, but then I'd seen these, you know, back in the early 90s, this was like in 94, right after the Waco butchering, and I'd seen these clips going around then on VHS tapes and things passed around.

01:07:54.000 Where he's going, you live in the woods, don't you?

01:07:56.000 The woods! 1.00

01:07:57.000 Like these militia guys, they're just totally calm, making him look like a fool. 0.97

01:08:01.000 I know two other guys that are up on stage, and they're laying out, they're coming for your guns, it's a new world order, they're gonna do this and that, and then now look! 0.98

01:08:09.000 Let me see.

01:08:11.000 Fourteen years later, this is in 1994.

01:08:14.000 Fourteen years later, how much of this has come true?

01:08:18.000 How much of this happened?

01:08:19.000 Because they were only going off government documents.

01:08:21.000 And just how right the militia movement was.

01:08:23.000 But then a year later, after this TV show, the feds bombed OKC, and Bill Clinton blamed it on the militia, when it was a federal operation, and that's when the militia went underground.

01:08:33.000 So, government-sponsored terror is used to head off movements that could stop their tyranny.

01:08:38.000 So, let's go ahead, but they only do it because it justifies the means.

01:08:43.000 They want to bring us enlightenment, and they've got to kill a lot of us to do that first.

01:08:47.000 It's the great work we're talking about here for Lucifer, they believe.

01:08:54.000 So, let's go ahead and play the militia.

01:08:56.000 The video is even more incredible up on InfoWars.com.

01:09:00.000 Actually, for PrisonPlanet.tv, let's punch this up.

01:09:03.000 And I will play clip two in overdrive so people can actually see the video.

01:09:07.000 Over at PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:09:08.000 Just have it where I can get to it later.

01:09:11.000 Good.

01:09:11.000 Yeah, yeah, later I'm going to have that for everybody.

01:09:15.000 Now, folks get confused.

01:09:16.000 There's all these other internet streams, little radio networks, internet things that carry the show, and there's scores of them.

01:09:21.000 And they, and the deads always let a lot of them do it. 0.95

01:09:24.000 The problem is some then hold out that they are us.

01:09:27.000 And because we're so lenient with things, it's kind of like, make copies of my film.

01:09:30.000 People say, well, they're now my film.

01:09:32.000 And I copyright your film, you know.

01:09:34.000 No, that's my film!

01:09:35.000 How dare you! 0.99

01:09:36.000 No, the film's mine now!

01:09:37.000 So we have to kind of explain to you, this is the Genesis Network.

01:09:40.000 This is where the show originates from.

01:09:41.000 And on those other networks and things, you won't be hearing my show when it ends.

01:09:45.000 You've got to go to mfallwars.com when we go into overdrive.

01:09:48.000 The only place to listen is on the internet or at prisonplanet.tv.

01:09:53.000 All of the schooning pilot fish are trying to attach themselves, which I don't mind a few pilot fish hanging off me.

01:10:02.000 But if they bite me and hate me while they're sucking my blood, it makes me angry. 0.84

01:10:06.000 And they always squeal and yell and pull their hair out and make up a bunch of stuff about me and engage in blackmail and all this other crap. 0.98

01:10:14.000 I'm not going to be too friendly towards you. 0.97

01:10:16.000 It's your own delusional BS.

01:10:19.000 You can lie to yourself all day about the stuff you've done, but the truth is I know the truth and that's what matters.

01:10:25.000 And that's why I'm going to defend myself.

01:10:26.000 But I'm already digressing.

01:10:27.000 Listen at how the militia was so right.

01:10:30.000 Now these are real guys.

01:10:31.000 John Trotman and others.

01:10:33.000 These are all great guys up there on stage.

01:10:35.000 I know two of them personally.

01:10:37.000 And I'm going to get them on.

01:10:38.000 I'm going to track them down and get both these guys back on.

01:10:41.000 But Bob Flesher and Trotman.

01:10:45.000 I know they're still around.

01:10:47.000 Just amazing guys.

01:10:48.000 This is 14 years ago.

01:10:50.000 These guys 20 years ago were telling the truth.

01:10:52.000 Now listen to it.

01:10:54.000 We'll be right back.

01:10:56.000 The United States of America, they believe that the United States government is prepared to usurp the Constitution and break down doors and confiscate guns.

01:11:05.000 Am I lying to these people, Bob Fletcher and Jim Trockman?

01:11:08.000 John Trockman.

01:11:09.000 John, sorry, it says John here.

01:11:11.000 You believe this?

01:11:12.000 No, not quite like that.

01:11:14.000 Not the U.S. 0.97

01:11:15.000 government.

01:11:16.000 Which government?

01:11:17.000 The One World Government?

01:11:18.000 Yes, sir.

01:11:19.000 The United Nations?

01:11:20.000 Yes, sir.

01:11:21.000 And you're in the woods now, and you're not, neither of you, you're not in the woods?

01:11:24.000 No, no, no.

01:11:25.000 Yeah, you're from Montana.

01:11:27.000 The city of Noxon?

01:11:28.000 Yes, sir.

01:11:28.000 The little town of Noxon.

01:11:30.000 350 people?

01:11:31.000 Maximum.

01:11:32.000 Uh-huh.

01:11:32.000 And you're living in the woods?

01:11:34.000 No, you're not.

01:11:34.000 No.

01:11:35.000 Is anybody in Montana?

01:11:37.000 Just their plain homes.

01:11:38.000 You're sitting next to Ray Southwell, who does, from Michigan.

01:11:41.000 You gather in the woods, don't you?

01:11:44.000 In Michigan?

01:11:45.000 Yeah.

01:11:45.000 When we train?

01:11:46.000 That's correct.

01:11:47.000 But you're not living there.

01:11:49.000 Stop right there.

01:11:49.000 I don't quite understand.

01:11:51.000 See, this propaganda wouldn't sell today.

01:11:55.000 Like, you live in the woods, you're some kind of hillbilly. 0.50

01:11:57.000 Then they go to the black guy, well these are white supremacists, what are you doing with them? 0.97

01:12:00.000 And the black guy's like, no they're not. 1.00

01:12:01.000 In fact, if you go watch their videos, they all speak out against it.

01:12:04.000 But that's the whole point, is that's what they would tell the public.

01:12:07.000 And this was running up, the demonization of the militia, started a year before the feds bombed OKC.

01:12:12.000 Just like the demonization of Alciada began right before 9-11.

01:12:16.000 So you can see the build-up. 0.95

01:12:18.000 But I mean, just listen how ridiculous Phil Donahue is. 0.97

01:12:21.000 Here it is. 0.98

01:12:22.000 Yeah, that's correct.

01:12:24.000 But you're not living there.

01:12:25.000 I don't quite understand when you say living there.

01:12:27.000 I live in northern Michigan and I have 20 acres that I live on and there's a house there.

01:12:33.000 Right.

01:12:33.000 You're with Ken Adams and Doug Hall here as well as The ever popular, highly regarded Jim Johnson.

01:12:42.000 You're from Ohio, are you?

01:12:43.000 That's correct, Columbus to be exact.

01:12:44.000 Yeah.

01:12:45.000 You're in a militia area?

01:12:46.000 The Ohio Unorganized Militia, duly elected communications officer.

01:12:49.000 Yeah.

01:12:50.000 What's, what are you, incidentally, I thought this was an all-white area.

01:12:53.000 By the way, start again.

01:12:54.000 I mean, Donahue's extremely manipulative. 0.99

01:12:56.000 You know, speaking out against the war now, he seems good, but he was puffing up, getting in their face, growling at them with the body language, trying to manipulate them into a fight, and the guys were all laughing at him, so Donahue looked like a complete fool. 0.98

01:13:07.000 Back to it. 0.97

01:13:09.000 Yeah.

01:13:11.000 Incidentally, I thought this was an all-white, Aryan nation, don't tread on me kind of group.

01:13:16.000 Yeah, well, the state of the country doesn't have an affirmative action program.

01:13:19.000 All are invited.

01:13:21.000 And you're here, among other things, to say that you share their concern about the pending crisis that's coming to this country?

01:13:28.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:13:30.000 Being a minority in our community, we've seen certain actions that these conspiratorial theorists have talked about actually happen in our communities.

01:13:38.000 Tell us what they are.

01:13:39.000 I'm having a little trouble getting it from the civilians here. 0.78

01:13:42.000 You look like you're from IBM compared to the rest of the group.

01:13:45.000 We can spot you from the air, Bob.

01:13:48.000 You better get yourself your fatigues here.

01:13:50.000 I'm going to get spotted from the air.

01:13:51.000 Yes, you are.

01:13:52.000 You're serious about this.

01:13:53.000 Please, I want this audience to know.

01:13:55.000 Oh, show them the film.

01:13:56.000 This is from Michigan.

01:13:57.000 Let me just, while we're showing it, you can make your case here.

01:13:59.000 The basic problem is rather simple, and Americans have become concerned That here in the United States, we're losing our constitutional rights.

01:14:10.000 We are slowly being moved into what amounts to being a one world, and that's George Bush and Gorbachev's words, a one world, new world order.

01:14:21.000 And what that amounts to, basically, is socialism.

01:14:25.000 One world socialism.

01:14:27.000 And if you don't like it, you're going to be moved off someplace where they can control you.

01:14:32.000 And the problem is, in terms of the militia across the United States, this is exactly what we're addressing.

01:14:38.000 It has nothing to do with racism.

01:14:40.000 As, I guess, our compadre from Ohio would testify.

01:14:44.000 It has nothing to do with a handful of crazy people running through the woods and practicing to shoot unknown, mysterious people.

01:14:53.000 We already are witnessing, as we talk today, Puerto Rico, San Juan, Puerto Rico is under martial law, folks, that everybody said would never happen.

01:15:03.000 That's as we speak today.

01:15:04.000 This has to do with the sweep of Uh, public housing for drugs and, uh, weapons in Puerto Rico.

01:15:12.000 That's the excuse.

01:15:13.000 That's the excuse that's being used.

01:15:15.000 Now, the only point they don't make is that the tremendous tonnage of cocaine and narcotics coming into the United States is being done on C-130 military aircraft.

01:15:25.000 It's been that way since, uh, all the way back in the 80s, and it was part of the Oliver North business with bringing in the drugs and the guns down into countries.

01:15:35.000 You're afraid of the suspension of what you believe is your right to bear arms.

01:15:40.000 That's really at the root of this.

01:15:42.000 You're afraid the feds are coming along to take your guns away.

01:15:45.000 My basic concern is what kind of a country am I going to leave my children?

01:15:51.000 I am very, very concerned about that.

01:15:54.000 And that's the reason that I'm in the militia, is what kind of a country am I going to leave for my children?

01:16:00.000 That's the same way with me, Phil.

01:16:02.000 You're the chaplain, right?

01:16:05.000 At 63, my youngest daughter just had a little girl.

01:16:08.000 Well, she's a year old now.

01:16:10.000 And I was amazed that at 63, I started to really appreciate this little person and so that's what i still don't know what the hell you're doing in these funny outfits here what are you concerned about gentlemen what's going to happen you're finessing me here you think that the feds are coming they're going to suspend the constitution they're going to take your guns away and you're practicing and when they come you're going to pop them on it's already happened

01:16:40.000 wait a minute what do you mean it's already happened you mean in the inner cities in the inner cities already happened we have uh you said public housing it's also been public and private areas also shreveport louisiana is a great example also happened in chicago they killed a guy in boston doing that so you're so you're effectively you're in the militia in order to what preserve and how How will this express itself, this preservation?

01:17:02.000 This preservation?

01:17:03.000 What we do in Ohio is we arm people with knowledge, is what we do.

01:17:08.000 The knowledge that your rights are eroding.

01:17:11.000 That is correct.

01:17:11.000 You've got to save them.

01:17:12.000 Alright, stop it right there.

01:17:13.000 I'm going to come back and play more.

01:17:15.000 We're going to Overdrive today and tomorrow I'll probably play this for the full AM and FM audience.

01:17:20.000 If you just Google American Militia Media Spin into Google, it'll come up.

01:17:25.000 American Militia dash Media Spin.

01:17:27.000 You can go to Infowars.com and watch.

01:17:29.000 Well, there's links to hours of this stuff if you want.

01:17:32.000 But, this is the type of stuff we're dealing with here.

01:17:37.000 Just the outright demonization.

01:17:39.000 See, most of these guys were former military intelligence.

01:17:42.000 Well, they had sources in that, and that's when Delta Force started buying off local governments, CIA takeover, government narcotics trafficking expanding, and they were doing drills for gun confiscation.

01:17:54.000 And I then woke up a few years, or right after this, about a year after this, and started going and videotaping these drills and seeing it for myself, and I found out, my God, these old guys on TV are telling the truth!

01:18:06.000 And then here we are a few years later, 15 years later, right down getting our throats slit.

01:18:11.000 It's all coming to a head.

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01:21:23.000 But I'm gonna go into overdrive, I don't know, 10, 15, 20 minutes.

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01:21:36.000 One place to get it is the internet.

01:21:38.000 At those specific streams.

01:21:39.000 Not the Genesis streams.

01:21:40.000 Not any other streams.

01:21:43.000 You know, just to see how right these men were.

01:21:46.000 To see how on target they were.

01:21:48.000 And to see how they were ridiculed and laughed at by the brainwashed, dumbed down, massive people in that audience.

01:21:56.000 But now you go to YouTube and Google and you see these clips and every single person's agreeing, unless it's some sitcom handle guy getting paid a hundred grand a year to bring his country down.

01:22:06.000 I am sick of all the people in government who still go along with this evil, claiming you're the patriots, claiming you're the good guys, that you're getting rid of our freedom for America.

01:22:15.000 You're doing that to make sure the bankers can rob the living daylights out of us.

01:22:20.000 Let's play a few more minutes of this clip.

01:22:22.000 Here it is.

01:22:23.000 This preservation, what we do in Ohio, is we arm people with knowledge, is what we do.

01:22:28.000 The knowledge that your rights are eroding.

01:22:31.000 That is correct.

01:22:32.000 You gotta say this, friends.

01:22:33.000 If you don't say this, this audience is gonna not know what in the hell.

01:22:36.000 You look like a barbershop quartet. 1.00

01:22:38.000 I don't know, you're a sex guy. 0.99

01:22:40.000 Go ahead. 0.96

01:22:43.000 What is the American people?

01:22:44.000 You're holding on me.

01:22:45.000 You are not coming true to me.

01:22:48.000 Your eyes get too big.

01:22:50.000 Tell them what you're concerned about.

01:22:53.000 I'm ready to learn here.

01:22:55.000 Every day, the American people from all across the country call us, and they tell us two things.

01:23:00.000 One, there's too much government.

01:23:02.000 There's too much federal intervention into our states and in our personal lives that our states are losing our sovereignty.

01:23:07.000 Back up.

01:23:08.000 Give the control back to our local elected officials.

01:23:11.000 Let's uphold our sheriffs.

01:23:12.000 Let's give power back to our sheriffs who we esteem highly, who's our only elected law official in this country.

01:23:19.000 Back off federal government.

01:23:20.000 Give the state some power again.

01:23:22.000 That's what the people are concerned about.

01:23:23.000 And by the way, in reference to that, in reference to the possibility of them being a quartet, we have turned it into a huge singing organization of governors.

01:23:33.000 As of today, the governors are wrapping up a convention.

01:23:38.000 The governors of the United States of America have said exactly what Mr. Stucco has just been saying.

01:23:44.000 That the federal government is taking too much power.

01:23:46.000 Exactly.

01:23:47.000 And that the governors need it back in their own backyards.

01:23:50.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:23:52.000 Go ahead.

01:23:55.000 Okay, that's good.

01:23:56.000 That's good.

01:23:57.000 When we go into overdrive, I'll play the last three minutes of that clip and then ten minutes more of the other clip from Donahue.

01:24:03.000 And there's more.

01:24:04.000 There's more to the show online at Infowars.com and there's a bunch of other Donahues and other programs where they're viciously Attacking the militia.

01:24:13.000 And Sean Hannity says, arrest all militia members, anybody that talks about a New World Order, every child should have a microchip, and that's conservative.

01:24:21.000 No, these are New World Order dirtbags in both parties.

01:24:25.000 By the way, the stock market right now is down over 300 points on the Dow Jones Industrial Average, and that is with hundreds of billions being pumped in today.

01:24:37.000 They're talking about the dollar completely dying.

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01:25:04.000 Openly admitting that Lieberman sends them, the staff basically tells them what to ban and what not to ban.

01:25:11.000 The media running around attacking 9-11 Truth.

01:25:14.000 You can also tell operatives in our own movement, they're all activating right now with their disinfo.

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01:25:58.000 Alright, take care Alex, good job.

01:25:59.000 Hey John, appreciate it.

01:26:00.000 I'll see you tomorrow, bubba.

01:26:01.000 Anytime, we'll see you tomorrow.

01:26:02.000 Take care, bubba.

01:26:03.000 Buh-bye. 0.98

01:26:04.000 Alright, buh-bye.

01:26:05.000 He's good at those buh-byes.

01:26:07.000 Hey, you know what?

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01:26:38.000 Okay, I want to go ahead and finish up this clip, and then there's another clip from the same show, but just look at how calm they are, how well-spoken, how focused, how serious they were, and how they were talking about martial law was being beta-tested then.

01:26:53.000 Now, fast-forward 14 years, 15 years, Army Times comes out and says, yeah, we're going to use regular army brigades in the U.S.

01:27:00.000 to combat people rioting or civil disturbance, and we hope we don't have to kill Americans, and we're going to use microwave guns, and this is Homeland Security, and NORTHCOM runs America.

01:27:10.000 Just like Iraq's occupied, the United States is now being occupied. 0.91

01:27:14.000 This is third-world country stuff. 0.80

01:27:15.000 Congress has been told, you're not involved in the bailouts and the corporate looting.

01:27:19.000 Nobody's going to jail for it.

01:27:20.000 We're not going to bail your houses out, we're just going to take your money and bail the bankers out.

01:27:25.000 But it's not a bailout.

01:27:25.000 They've already secured all their assets.

01:27:27.000 It's a consolidation.

01:27:28.000 It's a new world order.

01:27:29.000 So let me go ahead and punch up this screen for me.

01:27:32.000 I'll go ahead and play this for the viewers out there, and we'll play the other clip for everybody as well.

01:27:38.000 Here it is.

01:27:41.000 Anarchy, yeah.

01:27:42.000 And so, training in the woods, what?

01:27:44.000 In other words, you really think this is going to come down here?

01:27:47.000 You have to understand that in the area that I live, it is woods.

01:27:53.000 My closest neighbors are half a mile away.

01:27:55.000 I don't understand how higher interest rates and a big...

01:28:03.000 I gotta say something here, look how domesticated Donahue is, I mean, he's going, you live in the woods, a house in the woods, oh my god, you should be like 90% of people in an urban area, so when we have a Great Depression, instead of 80% being rural and being able to survive and only 7 million starved in the Great Depression, Tens of millions more will starve!

01:28:23.000 It's so crazy!

01:28:25.000 My God!

01:28:25.000 Live in the woods and have guns!

01:28:27.000 You're not a domesticated slave like me! 1.00

01:28:29.000 Oh, it's so shocking to see someone that's somewhat free and informed!

01:28:32.000 And 15 years before their time!

01:28:35.000 Oh my God!

01:28:36.000 It's so scary!

01:28:36.000 Oh!

01:28:37.000 Oh! 0.60

01:28:37.000 Oh my God! 0.60

01:28:38.000 But he sees a cop or a guy in a black ski mask in New York with a machine gun.

01:28:43.000 He feels safe.

01:28:44.000 Oh, FEMA camps.

01:28:46.000 Cops with machine guns and black masks.

01:28:49.000 And cameras everywhere.

01:28:50.000 It makes me feel so safe to have a criminal government.

01:28:52.000 But just these citizens with guns.

01:28:57.000 They live in the woods.

01:28:58.000 They have water wells.

01:29:00.000 They're not drinking their fluoride. 0.99

01:29:02.000 Dear God, they're crazy people. 1.00

01:29:05.000 Let's go back to these dangerous people! 0.99

01:29:07.000 You live in the woods, though!

01:29:08.000 The woods!

01:29:09.000 My God, it's crazy!

01:29:11.000 Oh, my God, this guy's out of his mind!

01:29:13.000 I bet he doesn't think GMO's good for him!

01:29:16.000 Oh, God, help us!

01:29:17.000 Oh, no!

01:29:18.000 Oh, it's all over!

01:29:19.000 There it is, folks.

01:29:26.000 Oh, for some reason the YouTube clip's not playing.

01:29:28.000 Good old YouTube.

01:29:29.000 I tell ya, it tortures me.

01:29:30.000 Here, we'll just play it from here.

01:29:35.000 The economic situation of this country.

01:29:37.000 We're four and a half trillion dollars in debt.

01:29:40.000 We're going in debt at a billion dollars a day.

01:29:43.000 What will happen when all of the money collected on taxes goes to interest on the debt?

01:29:50.000 If you look at Argentina or Brazil, you have hyperinflation, an economic situation.

01:29:56.000 Collapse of the economy, rioting in the streets.

01:29:59.000 Anarchy, yeah.

01:30:00.000 And so, training in the woods, what?

01:30:03.000 In other words, you really think this is going to come down here?

01:30:05.000 You have to understand that in the area that I live, it is woods.

01:30:11.000 My closest neighbor is in the MLA.

01:30:14.000 I don't understand how higher interest rates and a big service load on the debt is going to be cured by wearing fatigues and running around the woods as a grown man huffing and puffing.

01:30:23.000 What's the point?

01:30:29.000 If we were not dressed like this, if we were not dressed like this in training, we wouldn't be sitting here talking to you today.

01:30:34.000 And we want the American people to pull together, contact their elected officials, and tell them what the problems are, and let's sit down and start working out the problems instead of just... John, here's what you told us.

01:30:44.000 Here's what you told us.

01:30:46.000 No, but I mean, John, I think said this.

01:30:49.000 It's about informing the public about what's going on in this country.

01:30:53.000 You say it's a sell-off, the government is selling us out, the Constitution's in peril.

01:30:59.000 You believe that our government is involved in a population reduction.

01:31:03.000 Come on.

01:31:04.000 Our government wants to disarm the citizens, create a one world government, then do a world reduction of the population.

01:31:10.000 And what we're seeing now is foreign military equipment and chemical warfare equipment being brought into our country.

01:31:17.000 Come on.

01:31:19.000 Okay, if I might respond, I'm going to step on John's toes here.

01:31:24.000 You gotta ask yourself, and you folks that are finding some of this humorous, number one, this was photographed in Texas a couple of weeks ago.

01:31:31.000 Yeah.

01:31:31.000 Alright, this is a Frog short-range Russian chemical biological missile.

01:31:38.000 We have photographed several of these.

01:31:40.000 We also have this equipment on videotape.

01:31:42.000 With a red star and a gold finish.

01:31:44.000 Sorry about that, folks, but this is in Texas.

01:31:47.000 If that doesn't bother you, then maybe we should be... How do you know that?

01:31:50.000 Okay, excuse me.

01:31:52.000 By the way, I'm going to hit pause again.

01:31:54.000 I mean, I've got to get out here and go to a meeting.

01:31:56.000 I've got about ten more minutes to play of this, but this is what's incredible.

01:32:00.000 Now, in 2008, we knew NORTHCOM did this five years ago, officially, but they didn't advertise it, said Canadian and Mexican and Eastern Bloc troops will be used to patrol America during an economic collapse for martial law.

01:32:14.000 Or terrorist attack.

01:32:16.000 Then, in early 2008, the NORTHCOM publicly signed a deal with the Canadian and Mexican generals on Canadian TV.

01:32:25.000 And then Congress said, we'd like to be able to see that.

01:32:26.000 We're supposed to fund that or agree to that.

01:32:29.000 We passed the laws. 0.96

01:32:30.000 And they said, nope, continuity of government, sit down and shut up.

01:32:33.000 And now Paulson comes out and says trillions in bailouts.

01:32:36.000 It's not 700 billion, it's trillions and trillions.

01:32:38.000 And Congress started talking a week and a half ago saying, well, we have to look at that. 0.96

01:32:41.000 And he said, sit down and shut up. 0.75

01:32:43.000 Presidential Decision Directive 51. 0.94

01:32:46.000 Everything these guys said in 1994.

01:32:47.000 In 1994, what is that, 14 years ago?

01:32:52.000 Everything came true.

01:32:56.000 And now it's all declassified about the population reduction?

01:33:00.000 The public just can't deal with it.

01:33:01.000 It's your fault out there, folks.

01:33:03.000 We have given you all the information, and there's clips of me in 95, 96, 97 saying this stuff, and these guys all over the place before that, you know, in the 80s saying it.

01:33:14.000 And other people.

01:33:15.000 I mean, they've all been right.

01:33:16.000 They told you!

01:33:18.000 And you laugh at them!

01:33:21.000 Let's just go back to it.

01:33:22.000 Unbelievable.

01:33:23.000 Unbelievable.

01:33:26.000 Flatbeds of Russian tanks and armament that they brought into Montana.

01:33:32.000 Our own people photographed this.

01:33:33.000 Alright, I'm sorry about that.

01:33:35.000 The Russians are coming again, you tell him. 1.00

01:33:37.000 They're here.

01:33:38.000 Oh, they're here.

01:33:39.000 While you're still handling your microphone.

01:33:39.000 I see.

01:33:42.000 Raising up in the militia.

01:33:43.000 Right.

01:33:43.000 There's two ways to defuse the militia.

01:33:46.000 Number one is people like you taking the information, taking our fears and proving that we're wrong.

01:33:52.000 That will diffuse the militia movement, or people like you in the mainstream news media shine a light on this information and find out it's true, then let's get the country back on its true course.

01:34:04.000 Why is it so easy for us to glean support from the public?

01:34:09.000 We don't even have to go after them.

01:34:10.000 People are calling us.

01:34:11.000 Let me tell you why.

01:34:12.000 Because I think you're stocking ammunition.

01:34:15.000 I think you have semi-automatic.

01:34:17.000 I think you've got automatic. 0.91

01:34:20.000 I mean, listen to what a raving loony he is. 0.69

01:34:23.000 I know why they're calling you. 0.95

01:34:24.000 I think you're stuck in ammunition.

01:34:27.000 I think you got it in there like it's illegal.

01:34:30.000 He's like a totally domesticated creature, man.

01:34:34.000 But, you know, all the liberals I know now are buying guns.

01:34:36.000 They finally get it.

01:34:38.000 They finally broke their conditioning.

01:34:40.000 And most of the Kool-Aid drinking's going on from the Sarah Palin crowd.

01:34:44.000 Yeah, by the... Oh, it's... This country's so gone.

01:34:48.000 Go ahead and punch me up on screen here.

01:34:51.000 We're not going to look at this hot booty video right here that's beside it. 1.00

01:34:55.000 I'm going to give Paul a laugh in there, being stupid. 1.00

01:35:02.000 You've got to laugh about some of this while the stock market's plunging and the bankers are raping the living daylights out of our entire country. 1.00

01:35:09.000 I'm going to play this ten minute clip.

01:35:11.000 And then we're just going to end the show.

01:35:12.000 It's going to go into retransmission.

01:35:13.000 I had a bunch of big guests, key economic analysis, a ton of info about cell phones coming out, and a lot more.

01:35:19.000 I meant to get into the sun.

01:35:20.000 NASA's having a special announcement on Friday about the future of the sun, and they say they're really worried about it.

01:35:27.000 It's cooling off, and in 300 years of being recorded, never done this.

01:35:32.000 It's snowing in South Africa right now, normally about 100 degrees there, but they're in feet of snow.

01:35:38.000 But it's global warming, man, you better pay a global tax to them or everything's over.

01:35:43.000 Let's go ahead and go to this page and play this clip for everybody that is out there. 0.99

01:35:54.000 Let's go ahead and show this fool, Donahue, really making a fool out of himself. 0.99

01:36:02.000 Here it is. 0.99

01:36:05.000 I think you've got hardware on tripods, and you're looking out, you probably have night vision glasses, and every time you hear a tree crack in the woods, you're gonna blow half the forest away!

01:36:16.000 Where does that happen?

01:36:17.000 Your fear is that happened in America!

01:36:19.000 You must be- You know what, I got a comment on this too, I'm just gonna back it up.

01:36:23.000 I got a comment on this.

01:36:25.000 People always tell me, oh, you're afraid, you're paranoid, you're scared, you hear a creak at night, you shoot bullet holes in the wall.

01:36:32.000 No, it's the opposite.

01:36:33.000 We know we have a criminal government, we know they're so evil, it's incalculable.

01:36:39.000 We know, because we've been so gullible, we know that they've gotten away with so much, and then we have the courage to come up and fight them head-to-head.

01:36:46.000 And these guys have the courage to, way before their time, to go on TV and warn everybody about exactly what was going to happen.

01:36:52.000 Talking about hyperinflation and devaluation coming for his kids.

01:36:56.000 Now his kids, who were five, are now twenty.

01:36:59.000 I mean, this is like prophecy, but it wasn't.

01:36:59.000 And he was right.

01:37:03.000 It was all in the documents.

01:37:04.000 That's why they were right then, I'm right now.

01:37:07.000 And I was right then.

01:37:08.000 And many other people were right then.

01:37:10.000 This is when I was waking up when stuff like this was on TV.

01:37:13.000 This is what I looked into.

01:37:14.000 I remember watching stuff like this on television.

01:37:16.000 And I was on air just a year later, when the Feds bombed OKC, to go expose that.

01:37:22.000 So here he is going, you're scared, you're creeping around.

01:37:25.000 No, they're bold on TV, knowing they were going to get heat.

01:37:28.000 Some of these guys got set up and sent to prison and all sorts of stuff happened.

01:37:32.000 My God.

01:37:33.000 Feds would plant pipe bombs on militia leaders' property.

01:37:36.000 It was hellish what they went through and I salute them.

01:37:39.000 I salute you for what you've done defending this republic in the great spirit of our forefathers.

01:37:44.000 I really do.

01:37:45.000 So I'm going to go ahead and finish this clip, and then when this clip's over, we'll go to rebroadcast right here on the one and only GCN Radio Network.

01:37:52.000 Don't forget PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

01:37:56.000 Here it is, my friends.

01:38:00.000 Lucas, I think you've got hardware on tripods, and you're looking out, you probably have night vision glasses, and every time you hear a tree crack in the woods, you're gonna blow half the forest away!

01:38:11.000 Where does that happen?

01:38:12.000 Where does that happen in America?

01:38:13.000 You must be a little bit paranoid, Phil.

01:38:27.000 You must be a little bit Makes your case, don't you?

01:38:29.000 Absolutely.

01:38:30.000 That the federal government is coming down, they've got all the weapons and the problems, Phil.

01:38:35.000 The problem is, regardless of what anyone in this audience... One show at a time, this young man is speaking.

01:38:39.000 Can't be heard if you talk.

01:38:40.000 No matter what anyone in this audience feels, or anyone in the country feels about David Koresh and his followers, whether they're innocent or guilty, they deserve due process.

01:38:48.000 And they didn't receive that.

01:38:50.000 And regardless of what you, Phil, about the adults, the children certainly weren't guilty of anything.

01:38:55.000 And that's what we're concerned This is evidence of what the federal government is capable of.

01:39:01.000 And you are concerned about the house-to-house sweeps for armament, aren't you?

01:39:06.000 You think the feds are capable of that, aren't you?

01:39:09.000 You think the feds are capable?

01:39:10.000 Wait a minute, we don't think that the feds are capable of it.

01:39:14.000 As I said two minutes ago, Marshall Law and San Juan Puerto Rico folks With full military force dragging men, women, and children from their apartments.

01:39:24.000 It is true.

01:39:25.000 With no warrants whatsoever.

01:39:26.000 It is true.

01:39:27.000 And when a young woman asked, what's going on at four in the morning?

01:39:32.000 She said, where are your warrants?

01:39:33.000 They smashed her door down with a sledgehammer and said to her, this is our warning. 1.00

01:39:39.000 Damn it, this is our warrant. 0.99

01:39:41.000 Bring your stuff out. 0.99

01:39:42.000 And they went completely and dragged them out in the street.

01:39:45.000 What happened to the tenant that a man's home is his castle?

01:39:47.000 And a woman's as well.

01:39:49.000 And Anson, I'll give you a chance, hang on just a second, I promise.

01:39:52.000 We'll get the charts on in just a second.

01:39:55.000 It is true, you know, you turn on the evening news, you know, you see them, those guys are knocking them doors down and there's, you know, people inside in their underwear.

01:40:01.000 And you're on Channel 7 Action Evening News!

01:40:04.000 It does seem, now, you, I assume you're upset about this as well.

01:40:08.000 But the excuse of public housing is ridiculous because when they're done with that, it'll be your private homes.

01:40:13.000 They'll come door-to-door.

01:40:14.000 Those of you that are finding humor in it, you better never take your clothes off, so you're not in underwear on the next evening news.

01:40:21.000 Well, what is true, we've got, and you see this, and this is what happens when the country gets fearful, and you guys are ready for this, and you're not gonna let it happen, including the man of God here, the good old Chaplin.

01:40:32.000 And when they come and kick your doors in, you better damn well hope some of these guys are handy.

01:40:36.000 Yeah.

01:40:37.000 Otherwise, you better have your own semi-automatic.

01:40:39.000 Now, when they come for you guys, when they come for you guys, You're going to be ready, aren't you?

01:40:44.000 When they come for us, we won't be there.

01:40:47.000 When they come for us, they better have guns.

01:40:48.000 I bet you know how to use a gun, though.

01:40:49.000 Yeah, I do.

01:40:50.000 Well, if they come for my gun, I'm simply going to let them have it.

01:40:56.000 Funny, funny joke.

01:40:58.000 You're serious?

01:40:59.000 You pull the trigger on a federal agent coming up to your place?

01:41:01.000 Third Amendment says I can.

01:41:02.000 I will.

01:41:03.000 A man home is his castle.

01:41:04.000 If I have to die proving that, so be it.

01:41:06.000 And how many folks, are there more, just a minute, are there more and more people interested in the militia now?

01:41:14.000 Let me give you a general gist of it.

01:41:16.000 A year and a half ago there was not a heck of a lot.

01:41:19.000 And some of us were out there trying to let people know what was going on.

01:41:23.000 Right now, across the United States, we calculate active members meeting probably in a neighborhood of 10 million.

01:41:30.000 How's that, Greg?

01:41:31.000 Nah, nah, nah.

01:41:32.000 Okay, fine.

01:41:33.000 Hang on a minute.

01:41:34.000 Just hang on a second.

01:41:34.000 Sure.

01:41:35.000 Boy, I'll tell you, you and your charts here.

01:41:37.000 Bob Fletcher and John Trotman are from Montana.

01:41:41.000 I'll give you a chance.

01:41:43.000 Yes, they do feel that the Bill of Rights is being eroded, that protections of privacy are being undermined in the name of the law.

01:41:53.000 They love their local sheriff.

01:41:55.000 Let me tell you about my sheriff.

01:41:56.000 I gotta make a break here.

01:41:57.000 We gotta do some business.

01:41:58.000 You don't let me talk about my sheriff?

01:41:59.000 You do.

01:42:00.000 I'm not lying, am I?

01:42:01.000 You love the local sheriff.

01:42:02.000 Absolutely.

01:42:03.000 It's the federal guys you don't like.

01:42:04.000 Is that right?

01:42:05.000 Let me tell you about my sheriff.

01:42:06.000 Well, yeah, go ahead.

01:42:07.000 Yeah, tell them about your sheriff.

01:42:08.000 I'm back on your knees.

01:42:09.000 Go get him.

01:42:10.000 Go get him.

01:42:11.000 The sheriff in my county has told me that if he comes to my house, he will show me a warrant, his officers will identify themselves, and I will be more than happy to allow them to come into my house.

01:42:24.000 They treat me as a human being with respect.

01:42:26.000 What will the feds do?

01:42:27.000 When we have a government that is on the verge of being completely out of control, they allow tyrants to come in with hooded masks on, unidentified, Bust down your door.

01:42:42.000 It's happened all over America.

01:42:45.000 And we're going to all say that's okay.

01:42:46.000 Our neighbor wasn't any good anyways.

01:42:48.000 In other words, the local or the federal agent, you're saying, often wears a mask.

01:42:54.000 And they don't even let your sheriff know that they're doing it.

01:42:57.000 When he shoots your kid sister, nobody's going to know who it is because he's got a mask.

01:43:02.000 And this is the one world government coming down on you.

01:43:05.000 First they take your taxes. 0.84

01:43:08.000 Then they take your privacy.

01:43:09.000 Then they take all the power away from the local sheriff, from the local police department.

01:43:13.000 Phil, if we were on stage without ID cards or without names and masks, would that be a concern of yours?

01:43:20.000 Yeah.

01:43:20.000 Why isn't it a concern with the federal government?

01:43:24.000 These are undercover narcs, they don't want to be caught.

01:43:26.000 Why is the sheriff not afraid?

01:43:30.000 Half of the undercover narcs are the ones who brought the dope in 90 days earlier and using it now as an excuse.

01:43:38.000 This, this guy, what's wrong with this picture?

01:43:40.000 When you were a kid, when you were a kid, your mother told you go to the friendly policeman if you got lost.

01:43:46.000 Can you imagine sending your kid to this yahoo over here?

01:43:49.000 Yeah, how much time we got?

01:43:50.000 How much time we got, you figure, before the yahoos come? 1.00

01:43:50.000 Okay. 1.00

01:43:53.000 I'll give you a chance to answer that.

01:43:59.000 I ask you a three ounce question, I get a ten pound answer here.

01:44:06.000 How much time have we got?

01:44:08.000 What time have we got?

01:44:10.000 The Grace Commission in 1984 told us that by 1996, the economic collapse, the economic progress.

01:44:16.000 So we're gonna go down and anarchy's gonna ensue and you're the guys that are gonna be ready.

01:44:20.000 And you're gonna help protect me, I think you're saying.

01:44:22.000 Yes you can, you really can.

01:44:23.000 I'll give you a chance.

01:44:24.000 That's law enforcement right there, okay?

01:44:26.000 They're wearing hoods, they're legal, they're protecting the law.

01:44:28.000 What's wrong with that?

01:44:28.000 We're out here in the open, we identify ourselves and they're saying we're illegal?

01:44:32.000 This is the new thing in America, as recently reported on the front page of the New York Times.

01:44:38.000 It's called the militia.

01:44:40.000 No, they say they're not racist.

01:44:42.000 It's not just about guns and possession of guns, but the Second Amendment is involved here, definitely.

01:44:46.000 They're proud of their Second Amendment.

01:44:48.000 It's about provisions.

01:44:49.000 It's about protecting your neighbor.

01:44:51.000 They're neighbors.

01:44:51.000 They feel like they're together.

01:44:53.000 They're going to help.

01:44:54.000 And by God, no constable's gonna come from some far away place and break their door down. 0.97

01:45:00.000 They'll shoot him first.

01:45:01.000 No, I didn't say that! 1.00

01:45:02.000 He did.

01:45:03.000 Wait a minute, talk about- He said it.

01:45:03.000 He did.

01:45:05.000 I'll give you a chance to talk all you want when we come back in just a moment.

01:45:09.000 Thank you.

01:45:39.000 You've met the good brother Doug Hall, a member of the Michigan Militia.

01:45:44.000 Okay, so you don't sleep in the woods, you maneuver in the woods.

01:45:49.000 And you say Michigan is quite wooded, especially the northern part.

01:45:54.000 Here's the Reverend speaking to the troops.

01:45:56.000 I guess this is a weekend gathering for... Go get them, Reverend.

01:45:59.000 Praise the Lord.

01:46:01.000 I felt that the Lord was saying, this is this group.

01:46:07.000 Because, you know, the way it's growing across the nation is phenomenal.

01:46:11.000 I go to staff meetings and can't believe what I hear is going on.

01:46:15.000 But I felt like the Lord is saying, this is the army of the Lord in the United States for this moment.

01:46:24.000 That's the army of the Lord, is it?

01:46:26.000 That's the army of the Lord.

01:46:27.000 Yeah.

01:46:28.000 Well, that's the army I want to be in.

01:46:32.000 I don't want to laugh at these people, but I feel that they're all weird.

01:46:37.000 But I don't think it's that bad.

01:46:40.000 And as for him saying he's religious and it's an army of the Lord, it's something else. 0.84

01:46:44.000 And I don't think it's that serious.

01:46:45.000 I don't think it's that bad.

01:46:47.000 And I would like to know if they plan on maybe taking over the government.

01:46:50.000 Maybe do like they did in Haiti. 0.77

01:46:51.000 You know what?

01:46:52.000 The problem is... We are the government.

01:46:54.000 The same as you're the government.

01:46:55.000 You are the government.

01:46:56.000 And the problem is who did take over Haiti, ma'am?

01:46:59.000 Who took over Haiti a couple of weeks ago?

01:47:01.000 No, I'm talking about the... No, no.

01:47:03.000 Who took over Haiti? 0.79

01:47:04.000 You mentioned it.

01:47:05.000 You know who took over Haiti?

01:47:06.000 An out-of-control government.

01:47:08.000 They did not do anything other than go to some unknown entity called the United Nations, has nothing to do with your representative, congressional representative, and went in there and just took them over and stuck who they wanted in there, who, by the way, is now a dope-drop operation in between South America.

01:47:25.000 You keep giving us lectures about world events.

01:47:28.000 We want to know about this, Bob.

01:47:30.000 You understand that?

01:47:31.000 We want to know what motivates you.

01:47:33.000 Hey, I want to say something on this.

01:47:34.000 I guess I'm going to army of A. Because we took it all out of you. 1.00

01:47:37.000 Hey, A is for horses, Reverend.

01:47:39.000 Oh, well, I've been straw.

01:47:40.000 Listen.

01:47:40.000 Whatever.

01:47:40.000 Go ahead, Reverend.

01:47:41.000 Go ahead.

01:47:42.000 This was taken out of context.

01:47:48.000 None of these bites is taken out of context.

01:47:51.000 I set the condition, number one.

01:47:53.000 I told these militiamen, if you are going to be the army of the Lord, you better be living right in your own homes.

01:48:00.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, that is that.

01:48:03.000 But there's more of that online.

01:48:05.000 It's up on Infowars.com.

01:48:08.000 But look at their courage.

01:48:09.000 Look how they're bold.

01:48:10.000 Look how upright they were being attacked by that lesser man who was laughing and mocking them with that mindless group of people pilloring them and booing them and laughing at them.

01:48:19.000 And a lot of these guys got set up, went to prison, had pipe bombs buried on their property, hundreds of them.

01:48:25.000 Feds infiltrated, tried to begin to be violent, never worked.

01:48:30.000 Just amazing people, everything that they've done, and all I can do is commend the American militia.

01:48:37.000 And it's in the Second Amendment, all men 18 to 49 are supposed to be part of it, 18 to 44.

01:48:42.000 And instead we've got illegal aliens and foreign felons making up a lot of our military now. 0.91

01:48:47.000 We can't have the citizens involved in saying we'll defend our local governments and communities against corporate tyranny.

01:48:54.000 But you can have aggravated felons in your military and illegal aliens in them, and if you didn't know folks that were recruiting them, you're blind to that.

01:49:01.000 But just everything they're saying has come true.

01:49:02.000 Everything they warned.

01:49:04.000 And they deserve the respect of the people.

01:49:08.000 As I said, we're going to go into retransmission now.

01:49:11.000 Let me just go another two, three minutes, and we'll just come right out when the show comes back out of rebroadcast.

01:49:17.000 It's usually about 30 seconds ahead on the internet refeed, so at T-324.30.

01:49:19.000 So at T-32430, I will end this transmission.

01:49:28.000 There was some news I didn't get to today as well that I needed to get to.

01:49:34.000 This story about, clearly, globalist-backed forces trying to bomb and kill the new Pakistan government.

01:49:39.000 They're saying Al-Qaeda was behind it.

01:49:42.000 Al-Qaeda always attacking the New World Order's enemies, the little dutiful creatures. 0.90

01:49:48.000 The sun is going crazy.

01:49:51.000 I meant to get to that.

01:49:52.000 In financial news, dollar may get crushed as traders weigh up bailout.

01:49:56.000 That's mainstream news.

01:49:57.000 Bloomberg.

01:49:58.000 Bloomberg also reports Bush now has dictatorial powers.

01:50:00.000 That's a headline.

01:50:02.000 Fairy godmother taxpayer face funding, 200 billion pound.

01:50:05.000 That's 400 billion British bailout.

01:50:07.000 400 billion in US dollars.

01:50:10.000 Bailout of greedy bankers.

01:50:13.000 It goes on and on.

01:50:14.000 Where is my story about the sun?

01:50:18.000 Because now that I... and I forgot all the callers, too.

01:50:21.000 I mean to take more calls on the show.

01:50:23.000 I just get stuck in covering news.

01:50:26.000 You know, that's cell phones giving kids five times the rate of brain tumors, hundreds of studies.

01:50:31.000 No.

01:50:33.000 That's forced drugging of children in schools to make them smarter. 0.97

01:50:37.000 Can't make that up.

01:50:40.000 Again, you just cannot make this stuff up.

01:50:44.000 It's so crazy.

01:50:46.000 NASA.

01:50:47.000 This is from the NASA.

01:50:49.000 NASA to hold press conference on the state of the sun.

01:50:52.000 The sun in 300 years being measured has never been this cool or releasing this low level of heat.

01:50:59.000 It's one of the most and most early studied things by scientists and they've had accurate readings for 300 years or more.

01:51:07.000 NASA will hold a media conference Tuesday, September 23rd.

01:51:09.000 It's tomorrow to discuss the data from the joint NASA-European Space Agency Ulysses missions reveal the solar wind, the 50-year low.

01:51:17.000 Then it goes deeper into the articles, say 300 years of measurements, but since they've been measuring solar winds, it's the 50-year low.

01:51:24.000 The sun's current state could result in changing conditions in the solar system.

01:51:28.000 Yeah, and it gets into all that, so I'll be covering that tomorrow.

01:51:31.000 Retransmission starts now on the InfoWars.com streams.

01:51:34.000 I want to thank everybody for spreading the word about the radio show.

01:51:36.000 That's how we reach more people, and that's our goal, is to be able to warn them.

Alex Jones Show - September 22, 2008

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