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00:02:47.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

00:02:50.000 This is Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:03:11.000 Peter Schiff is the president of Euro-Pacific Capital, Inc., a brokerage firm based in Darren, Connecticut.

00:03:18.000 And he's one of the leading supporters and promoters of the Austrian School of Economics.

00:03:22.000 He is an advisor and one of the people that Congressman Ron Paul cites.

00:03:27.000 He's involved with the Ludwig von Mies Institute as well.

00:03:30.000 And he appears as a frequent guest on CNBC, Fox News, Bloomberg Television, writes for some of the biggest newspapers in the U.S. and worldwide.

00:03:38.000 And we'll also be giving you his website.

00:03:41.000 He has several of them, so he can plug whatever he likes here on the air today with us for the next 50 minutes.

00:03:46.000 And if we have time, we'll take some phone calls for him before he leaves.

00:03:50.000 Mr. Schiff, it is really a great honor to have you on with us.

00:03:53.000 Oh, nice to be here.

00:03:55.000 Okay, let's get into what's happening with the current global financial system, where you see it going in the short and long term, the bailout.

00:04:02.000 But then I want to Uh, look at the different ways of dealing with this crisis from the position of the central bankers, which I don't want to call free market.

00:04:11.000 They're blaming the free market in the system right now in the media, versus what a true free market would have done.

00:04:18.000 Yeah, well first of all, the global financial system is in fact melting down, because it's been unsustainable.

00:04:24.000 The premise has been that the rest of the world saves their money, and they loan it to Americans who spend it all, and promise to pay it back.

00:04:33.000 But the problem is, you know, when you borrow money and spend it, you don't have any way of paying it back.

00:04:38.000 You know, the only way Americans can pay back the money we've borrowed is to stop spending, and therefore use the money that we would have spent on consumption to pay back our debts.

00:04:48.000 But we can't do that, because our whole economy is a function of us spending money.

00:04:53.000 So in order to keep our phony economy going, we have to keep spending, which means we can't pay back any of our debts, but in order to keep spending, we have to borrow more, which means the rest of the world Please

00:05:28.000 continue going through the fundamentals for folks and then Placing the blame where it needs to go, because instead they're blaming it on the American people, they're blaming it on...

00:05:38.000 Well, I mean, the American people simply, you know, acted on the incentives being delivered to them by the government through our monetary policy and through our fiscal policy.

00:05:49.000 I mean, number one, we kept interest rates much too low in this country, particularly in the aftermath of September 11th and the bursting of the Nasdaq bubble, when the Fed had interest rates down at 1%.

00:05:59.000 They were literally giving money away.

00:06:01.000 And, you know, when money is free, people take it.

00:06:05.000 And people took that cheap money and gambled with it, principally on real estate.

00:06:09.000 Not only were Americans gambling themselves by buying real estate at prices that were absurd, but Wall Street was financing the whole thing.

00:06:18.000 They were taking the cheap money and underwriting everybody's speculation in the housing market.

00:06:23.000 So we had this gigantic housing bubble.

00:06:25.000 And, of course, the housing bubble made everybody think that they were rich.

00:06:29.000 And so as people were extracting equity from their homes and buying cars and SUVs and cell phones and plasma TVs, they didn't really think they were borrowing the money.

00:06:38.000 They actually thought they were rich.

00:06:40.000 They thought they had all this home equity that they were tapping into.

00:06:43.000 But the reality was the home equity never really existed.

00:06:46.000 All they were doing was borrowing money, you know, secured by, you know, the illusion of home equity.

00:06:51.000 Secured by inflation.

00:06:53.000 Well, the inflation is what was putting the money into circulation.

00:06:58.000 And eventually, the inflation started to cause prices to rise other than real estate, such as food, such as energy.

00:07:05.000 And, of course, the government blamed that on external factors.

00:07:09.000 as a direct result of their monetary policy.

00:07:11.000 But then we also have a tax code that incentivizes borrowing.

00:07:15.000 We give people deductions for their mortgage interest, yet we tax people if they earn any interest.

00:07:21.000 And we had all kinds of incentives to buy and flip houses with tax breaks.

00:07:26.000 If you buy a house and sell it a profit, you pay no taxes.

00:07:29.000 But if you buy another asset and sell it a profit, you pay taxes.

00:07:33.000 And if you actually work for a living and earn wages, you I mean, you pay a lot of taxes, so the government made it more lucrative to flip property than have a job, and they provided the cheap money.

00:07:43.000 They also provided the market with Freddie and Fannie, which are these giant government-sponsored enterprises, which by guaranteeing all the mortgages made it possible for people to borrow much more money than they can repay, because the lenders didn't care about the default risk, because the government was guaranteeing the mortgages.

00:08:03.000 So you had that moral hazard, and they had this huge We're good to

00:08:34.000 go. We're good.

00:08:53.000 but i think that we were spending the money on we're being produced in china and japan and other parts of the world actually we're going to be living off the charity the productivity of the rest of the world that it was destined to get because the The world's not going to support us forever.

00:09:10.000 Break down where we're going.

00:09:12.000 I mean, either way, I mean, the bailout to me is not so much about the eight hundred and something billion up to five trillion, depending on how you look at it, that it is about giving new powers to the Treasury, giving them immunity.

00:09:25.000 And now we see all these different...

00:09:27.000 There's no real bailout because the government can't bail anybody out because the government is broke.

00:09:32.000 I mean, they're just going to borrow more money from abroad or print more money.

00:09:35.000 And ultimately, it's a power grab by the U.S. government to take more control over our economy.

00:09:41.000 And, you know, it's not going to make the stock market go up.

00:09:44.000 It's not going to make the real estate market go up.

00:09:46.000 I mean, it's not going to make all these bad loans disappear.

00:09:49.000 It's just going to make the bad loans, the losses for those bad loans, felt more intently by average Americans than would otherwise be the case if the losses were left on the books of the banks.

00:10:04.000 So, where is all this going?

00:10:06.000 I mean, one way or another, how is this going to unfold?

00:10:09.000 Well, it's going to be a disaster.

00:10:11.000 I mean, we're going to have something like the Great Depression, only maybe worse, because this time it'll be an inflationary depression, where instead of consumer prices going down, they actually rise substantially.

00:10:26.000 and that is what we're looking at and And, you know, the reason we're going to have a depression is not because of a failure of the market.

00:10:33.000 I mean, that's not why we had a depression in the 30s.

00:10:35.000 The government will create a depression because they refuse to allow the market to function.

00:10:40.000 You know, they refuse to allow the free market to work out all these malinvestments and purge all the excesses from the economy because the politicians don't want to level with the American public and tell them that times are going to get tough and that there's nothing the government can do about it.

00:10:58.000 That this is just the price we have to pay for years of reckless borrowing and spending.

00:11:04.000 All the years we lived above our means, now we're going to have to live below them.

00:11:07.000 And they don't want to deliver that message.

00:11:10.000 And so they pretend.

00:11:11.000 They want to pretend that, oh, there's a big problem, and we as a government are going to save you.

00:11:15.000 We're going to protect you.

00:11:17.000 We're going to give you something.

00:11:19.000 And that's what's going to create the depression.

00:11:21.000 It's going to be all the interference in the market that is going to lead to widespread unemployment, massive inflation.

00:11:28.000 Because of decades ago, And throughout financial history, not just here, but in Asia, in the 90s, as you know, but I'd like you to speak to this, governments do come in and reward the criminals that are engaging in this, generally from the government level, between corporations and the government, in collusion, which is crony capitalism.

00:11:48.000 It's not free market.

00:11:49.000 And so that allowed them to be involved in even bigger I mean, that's what they're doing.

00:12:01.000 That's what they're doing right now.

00:12:02.000 I mean, governments love a crisis, especially if it's a crisis of their own creation.

00:12:07.000 Because what happens is they infect the free market with their socialist programs, and then when it has a deleterious effect, then the government can ride to the rescue saying, aha, we told you capitalism doesn't work, you need us to save you.

00:12:21.000 And the public is so scared that they trust the government, and the government grabs even more power.

00:12:28.000 And now they use that power to do even more damage, and now they say, aha, you need us even more.

00:12:33.000 And they continue to use the crisis in the bad economic times to grab additional power.

00:12:39.000 In fact, if you look at all the despots in history, and you look at where they came, and you look at Adolf Hitler, how was he able to come to power? 0.66

00:12:47.000 He was able to come to power amid the chaos of the hyperinflation that ravaged the Weimar Republic.

00:12:52.000 If it wasn't for that type of environment, the Germans never would have given up that kind of power to him. 0.92

00:13:03.000 The private banks should have gone out of business.

00:13:08.000 Some of them that ran scams and caused panics leading up to 1913.

00:13:14.000 Then the banks Yeah, and you know,

00:13:40.000 and the government is trying to pretend that we have to prop up these banks so that we can keep on buying Exactly!

00:13:50.000 They're acting like the economy.

00:13:51.000 They're saying there won't be payroll met.

00:13:53.000 The whole economy will shut down if we don't have these guys to lend.

00:13:57.000 i don't run my little business uh...

00:14:00.000 in debt i don't know i don't know what they could look like i hear the politicians say stuff like it would be a big bank and i hope that you won't be able to borrow any money to send your kids to college well you know what that's actually a good thing it doesn't mean that it won't be able to go to college what's the university You know what they're going to do?

00:14:21.000 They're going to slash their tuitions!

00:14:23.000 They're going to look over their bureaucracies and they're going to figure out where can we cut back?

00:14:27.000 Who can we fire?

00:14:29.000 Because we don't want to go more than that.

00:14:31.000 The University of Texas, the 90 plus percent of its operations is just investments that have nothing to do with the university.

00:14:36.000 They're going to stop ripping the people off and then putting it in their own private crony side businesses.

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00:18:55.000 the president of Euro-Pacific Capital Inc., brokerage firm, one of the experts You know, it's funny, the true free market libertarian folks have been right about what was going to happen all along, but we're not the ones now that are going to be listened to.

00:19:20.000 It's going to be the very people, the very people that carried all of this out.

00:19:29.000 What do you see them doing?

00:19:30.000 And, I mean, breaking it down, what is it going to look like?

00:19:32.000 Is this going to be a full-bore depression?

00:19:34.000 something worse if we don't change.

00:19:37.000 You know, when I wrote my book, Crash Proof, How to Profit from the Coming Economic Collapse, which came out in February of 2007, and interestingly, even almost two years after it's come out, it's right now the number one selling investment book on Amazon, and I think they just reprinted another 35,000 copies, which they tell me is unprecedented for a book that's almost two years old.

00:19:58.000 People are certainly reading it, but when I wrote that book originally, one of my forecasts was this economy would collapse, this phony borrow and spend economy, the housing bubble.

00:20:08.000 I predicted that all that would happen, that we'd have major fallout and ramifications in the financial industry and among the lenders, based on all these mortgages gone bad.

00:20:17.000 But I also made a more dire forecast, which was predicated on what I thought the government would likely do in response to the crash, to try to prevent it from happening, to try to artificially reflate real estate prices.

00:20:31.000 And it's those government actions that I feared would lead to the worst-case scenario of a hyperinflation and, you know, of a real disastrous outcome for our economy.

00:20:42.000 And now that is exactly what is happening.

00:20:45.000 The government is doing exactly what I feared they would do.

00:20:47.000 And, yeah, you know, it does frustrate me that, you know, for years I was going on television and certainly writing and doing things and pointing out all these problems.

00:21:13.000 I mean, he's just fear-mongering, none of this could possibly happen, it's impossible.

00:21:18.000 And of course, all those economic predictions have come true, yet the very people who said that it was impossible, the people who assured us that our economy What are you doing with

00:21:48.000 Your money.

00:21:48.000 Well, I mean, I'm doing the same thing with my money as I've been recommending that everybody do their money for years.

00:21:54.000 Get out of the U.S.

00:21:55.000 dollar.

00:21:56.000 I mean, I know that everybody is talking about, how is this bailout bill going to affect taxpayers?

00:22:02.000 Well, it's not going to affect us so much as taxpayers, because nobody is raising our taxes.

00:22:07.000 In fact, in this most recent bailout bill, the Senate approved an additional $100 billion in tax cuts.

00:22:15.000 So, you know, not only are they spending $700 billion and not paying for it, but they're cutting taxes by an extra $100 billion.

00:22:22.000 So it's not taxpayers who are going to suffer, or not Americans with their taxpayer hat.

00:22:27.000 How we're going to suffer is through the erosion of the value of our wages and our investments.

00:22:33.000 Our savings, the bonds that we own, the insurance that we own, because it's all going to be paid for with inflation.

00:22:40.000 The government is printing money and spending it into circulation, and it's going to debase the value of everybody's savings and everybody's wages.

00:22:46.000 And it's not just going to be this $700 or $800 billion.

00:22:49.000 Because of the perverse moral hazards that are built into this bailout bill, the result of the bailout bill is going to be a wave of delinquencies on their mortgages.

00:22:58.000 Because what's going to happen now is that when somebody stops making their mortgage payment, there's not going to be a foreclosure.

00:23:04.000 What's going to happen is the bank is simply going to sell that asset to the government rather than foreclosing, because they'll get more money selling it to the government.

00:23:12.000 So if you stop making your mortgage payment once this bill is passed, no one's going to kick you out of your house.

00:23:17.000 You'll probably live there for a year or two, and eventually you'll get a call from the government saying, Hey, we own your mortgage now.

00:23:22.000 I know it's $500,000, and I notice you're not paying it.

00:23:26.000 How about if we reduce it to $200,000 and give you a 30-year mortgage at 4%?

00:23:30.000 Would you consider making the payments?

00:23:32.000 And then you might say, sure.

00:23:34.000 So what's going to happen is this is going to turn into a, you know, an investment.

00:23:55.000 they'll bail you out of your credit card debt, too.

00:23:57.000 But again, how they're going to bail it out is issuing more liquidity that devalues the dollar, and who does that punish?

00:24:02.000 The people that actually did save, the individuals that actually didn't. 0.98

00:24:05.000 Oh, those are the suckers! 0.96

00:24:07.000 And therefore, we can't have an economy.

00:24:09.000 You see, the only way you can have a capitalist economy, a real economy, is to have savings.

00:24:14.000 Savings are the root of all economics.

00:24:15.000 And we now have a negative savings rate, lower than the depth of the Great Depression.

00:24:20.000 Stay there, Peter Schiff.

00:24:21.000 I'm going to come back and get your take on then where this is going, how this is going to unfold, and also tell folks about your book that predicted all of this.

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00:25:01.000 We have to look to Osama Bin Laden. 0.93

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00:27:54.000 Please. I was sitting in traffic, listening to the radio.

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00:28:10.000 it's out.

00:28:11.000 I've got an idea.

00:28:13.000 Peter Schiff, I've got to get you back on for another hour or so to break down real free market versus this thing we've got where select bankers and corporations don't play by any rules.

00:28:24.000 They can cheat and steal the public.

00:28:26.000 This relationship with the government where they suck the wealth of the people out and then they call that capitalism, when really it's beginning to look like communism or socialism for the rich and slavery for us.

00:28:43.000 Here's the toll-free number.

00:28:44.000 I'm opening the phones back up.

00:28:45.000 He's going to be gone in 15 minutes, or 18 minutes to be technical.

00:28:48.000 1-800-259-9231, 800-259-9231, to get up on the air with our guest, best-selling author multiple times, Europack.net.

00:29:00.000 But I wanted to talk to you about the window of opportunity we've got, because I was pleasantly surprised when The Congress, the House, said no Monday because they were getting 2,000 calls to five.

00:29:13.000 I talked to multiple congressmen on air.

00:29:15.000 It was about that they get thousands of calls for a couple of pro-calls.

00:29:18.000 Other senators are saying the same thing, not just House members.

00:29:21.000 So they did the right thing, narrowly defeated it by 25 votes or so.

00:29:26.000 Now the Senate passes it.

00:29:27.000 They're trying to get the House to pass it now.

00:29:30.000 And all this immunity and new power, as you said, to the feds.

00:29:34.000 How do we maximize, like you said, your book, two years in print, number one on Amazon right now in the financials, you know, everything I've talked about, our numbers exploding, Ron Paul's credibility exploding, you know, all of us that were right, not that we're geniuses, we're just studying real history and what the financial leader doing,

00:29:52.000 how do we maximize this window of opportunity to hopefully turn this around before, as you've said, You know, you predicted this, and then you gave a worst-case scenario, and they're following the worst-case scenario.

00:30:05.000 We can turn it around.

00:30:06.000 You know, the Congress is probably going to pass this thing.

00:30:10.000 You know, they scared the public now with this big drop in the market.

00:30:13.000 They're blaming it on the fact that the bill didn't pass.

00:30:15.000 And they're saying, look, just pass this bill, and we'll make your stocks go back up.

00:30:19.000 It's not going to work.

00:30:20.000 I mean, the market's going to go down whether they pass it or not.

00:30:23.000 Ultimately, it's going to go down more if they pass it than if they don't, because, again, This is going to do a lot of damage and cede a lot of power to the government and make the markets a lot less free and therefore less efficient.

00:30:36.000 But unfortunately, there's nothing we can do as Americans.

00:30:39.000 You know, we can protest all we want, but we're not going to change what government is doing.

00:30:44.000 So all we can do, unfortunately, is protect our own wealth and our own families by taking our financial destiny in our own hands.

00:30:52.000 And that was part of the premise of my book, Crash Proof, in my new book.

00:30:55.000 i have a book that just came out this week a couple of local bull moves in their markets that it is designed to not only show you that this crisis is inevitable but you know where you can invest your money so you don't end up broke like everybody else because unfortunately if they wipe out the value of the dollar they're gonna wipe out all u_s_ dollar financial assets and with that any retirement dream that any americans might be hard-bearing right now if they if they have dollars and i don't care You can be a multi-millionaire.

00:31:23.000 You might even be a billionaire.

00:31:24.000 If your money's in dollars, you're going to be broke.

00:31:27.000 So you've got to look around.

00:31:28.000 You've got to look at foreign markets, foreign currencies, precious metals, other types of investments.

00:31:33.000 And, you know, it's very ironic that right now you're actually seeing the dollar strengthen substantially based on the prospect of this bailout. 0.99

00:31:43.000 Because the world's investors are so stupid that they actually think the bailout's going to work. 0.99

00:31:48.000 They actually think this thing is going to solve all of our economic problems. 1.00

00:31:51.000 It shows you how little people learn.

00:31:53.000 I mean, of course, these are the same investors who bought all those subprime mortgages in the first place and thought they were so great, and who bought all the dot-com stocks in 1999 and 2000.

00:32:01.000 So they have a lousy track record, yet they determine the short-term movements in the market because they control everybody's money.

00:32:08.000 Well, absolutely, enemy.

00:32:10.000 Ron Paul on the show last week said that Bernanke And Greenspan and Paulson should be arrested.

00:32:18.000 They've clearly enlisted some of the crimes they've been committing.

00:32:23.000 And I think, you know, instead of the criminals that engineered this now getting to take over even more of the crisis they created, I think it sends a good message to start grand jury indictments.

00:32:35.000 Yeah, that'd be great.

00:32:37.000 But of course, you know, I thought, look at Paulson.

00:32:39.000 I mean, poor Paulson was running Goldman Sachs.

00:32:42.000 I mean, he was part of the problem.

00:32:43.000 That's what I mean.

00:32:43.000 Look at that guy.

00:32:44.000 Without this bailout, Goldman Sachs would go out of business.

00:32:50.000 not be out at a head of the call to a lot of the people that called the fact that it would have been part of the book and charge will shouldn't ron paul and others in congress shouldn't congress b saying at least you're to blame study uh...

00:33:03.000 and then dealing with it from that perspective uh...

00:33:07.000 instead of just bowing down before the bomb it's so amazing to see democrat republican leaders the president the treasury secretary The Fed head, or the private Fed, go on TV and say, go on TV, I mean, I want your take on this, go on TV and say, you give us what we want, and you give us unlimited power, and that's what the first version said, the new one says similar things, or there's going to be a depression.

00:33:30.000 I mean, that itself should have sent us in.

00:33:34.000 I know, and it's not like, look, it wasn't not too long ago, Paulson was saying it was the greatest global economy he'd seen in his lifetime, that the President Obama had never been in better shape, and now we're on the verge of an economic collapse?

00:33:45.000 How can that be?

00:33:46.000 Obviously, if he's right now, he was wrong then.

00:33:50.000 And if the guy is so incredibly incompetent, why should we give him all this power?

00:33:54.000 Well, they're not.

00:33:54.000 They know.

00:33:55.000 They've been lying the whole time.

00:33:56.000 I went to Congress like a month ago, and looked those congressmen and senators right in the eye, and said, if you put a bazooka in my pocket, I'll never use it.

00:34:04.000 Peter Schiff, one year later, he's using it.

00:34:06.000 Oh, he's shooting it at the deal drive.

00:34:08.000 No, I understand.

00:34:09.000 And now we're giving them a nuclear warhead!

00:34:11.000 I agree.

00:34:12.000 Peter Schiff, how is this going to play out?

00:34:16.000 I've been really good at predicting what's going to happen.

00:34:18.000 They're following the bad course.

00:34:20.000 I agree with you.

00:34:21.000 It looks like they're going to go ahead and follow the worst possible course, but at least it's without the will of the people.

00:34:27.000 And so now, when it really runs its course, then we may have a chance of finally removing...

00:34:32.000 We are going to create massive inflation, a lot of unemployment.

00:34:35.000 What's going to happen is you're going to really start to see I think so.

00:35:07.000 I mean, that's what we're doing.

00:35:09.000 You know, my brokerage firm is called Europacific Capital, and the website for the firm is europac.net.

00:35:15.000 But what we're helping people do is get their money out of U.S. dollars and accumulate foreign assets, precious metals, while it's still legal, and while the dollar still has value.

00:35:25.000 And I would recommend...

00:35:26.000 Well, that's what I'm telling people to do.

00:35:27.000 ...

00:35:28.000 but people who have a lot of financial assets have to act quickly.

00:35:32.000 Otherwise, they're going to watch an entire lifetime of savings and investments.

00:35:37.000 Well, that's the fact.

00:35:38.000 The establishment, the big, you know, the top guys running the criminal operation, they plan to blame this on capitalism.

00:35:44.000 They plan to manage this crisis they engineered into a total police state, as you said, and they're moving in heavy armored brigades, saying in the Army Times, it's for civil unrest.

00:35:55.000 They've set up NORTHCOM.

00:35:57.000 They passed the John Warner Defense Authorization Act two years ago, saying it was for martial law.

00:36:02.000 They have been planning this all along.

00:36:04.000 No, I don't think they're smart enough to engineer it.

00:36:21.000 I just think it's a comedy of errors.

00:36:25.000 People have good intentions.

00:36:26.000 I don't read into it an evil motive.

00:36:29.000 Have you ever read the IMF World Bank documents?

00:36:30.000 They try to destroy the country.

00:36:32.000 I just think they're just completely incompetent, and they're looking out for their own self-interest.

00:36:37.000 And they just knew five years ago to secretly start federally getting rid of posse comitatus for an economic collapse.

00:36:46.000 I don't have a nefarious motive, and I don't think they're smart enough to say, hey, let's collapse the economy ourselves.

00:36:55.000 They're just making mistakes.

00:36:57.000 They're just doing things wrong.

00:36:59.000 There's just so much ignorance out there.

00:37:01.000 I believe that a lot of these Senators who voted for this bill really believe they're doing the right thing.

00:37:06.000 I don't think they're evil people.

00:37:08.000 I just think they're a little bit of a no.

00:37:10.000 Either way you cut it, as you know, it's the same thing.

00:37:14.000 The same thing is going to happen in the end.

00:37:18.000 And as soon as the yuppies finally stop believing CNBC and finally do buy gold and silver, we've already got the mints shutting down, selling a lot of their coins, not just the buffalo, as you know.

00:37:28.000 By the time the average American wakes up and tries to buy gold, it'll be thousands of dollars an ounce.

00:37:33.000 Oh, sure.

00:37:34.000 How high do you think gold's going to go by the end of this?

00:37:36.000 How long is this going to run?

00:37:37.000 By the end of the year, I don't know.

00:37:38.000 I was forecasting $2,000 gold sometime next year, and I still think that's a reasonable target.

00:37:44.000 but you know ultimately there's no feeling to what the price of gold can go to because there's no floor for the dollar i mean look what the price of gold is in zimbabwe i mean it's billions of dollars an ounce actually i think it's trillions of dollars an ounce so you know if you can you can debate your currency down to nothing so i don't know gold might go to five or ten thousand dollars an ounce but it could go a lot higher i mean there's no way to know because you don't know where the dollar is going to start falling if we end up with zimbabwe style hyperinflation you're not going to be

00:38:12.000 I agree, so...

00:38:16.000 People better move into real assets and they better do it movie pronto.

00:38:20.000 Let's go ahead and talk to, uh, who's up first here?

00:38:22.000 There's so many calls.

00:38:23.000 Kelly in Maine.

00:38:24.000 You're on the air, Kelly, worldwide.

00:38:27.000 Hello, Alex?

00:38:28.000 Yes. Ah, thanks for putting me on.

00:38:31.000 And also, um, thank you for shouting out to Justin TV earlier.

00:38:34.000 You bet.

00:38:35.000 You're on the air with Peter Schiff.

00:38:36.000 You have a question?

00:38:37.000 Yes, I do.

00:38:37.000 Um, I want to know what will happen if the government will own the mortgages?

00:38:42.000 Will they start building on the land like FDR did?

00:38:46.000 Yeah, they're going to have make, work, and projects that they're going to own are going to be for land that already has a structure on it.

00:38:52.000 But what I think the government is going to do once they acquire these mortgages is I think they are going to make deals with the homeowners and substantially reduce the mortgages that people owe.

00:39:03.000 By the way, banks are already...

00:39:06.000 Dramatically. Peter, you're right.

00:39:08.000 Banks are already privately doing deals with people to substantially cut down on what things cost so people won't walk away.

00:39:15.000 Yeah, I'm in favor of that.

00:39:17.000 But what I'm not in favor of is the government overpaying for these mortgages and then doing the deals and throwing the losses on American citizens.

00:39:25.000 Yeah, what did you think of Bernanke saying he wants the government to pay premium prices?

00:39:31.000 They have to pay premium prices, otherwise they would bankrupt all the entities they're trying to bail out.

00:39:36.000 That's the whole joke.

00:39:37.000 The government is trying to pretend they're going to make money.

00:39:39.000 That's unbelievable.

00:39:40.000 That's a crock.

00:39:41.000 Kelly, anything else?

00:39:42.000 No, that's it.

00:39:43.000 Thank you.

00:39:44.000 Let's go ahead now and talk to Clifford in Pennsylvania.

00:39:47.000 You're on the air with Peter Schiff.

00:39:48.000 Yes, sir.

00:39:49.000 Mr. Schiff, I'm a...

00:39:52.000 You have my account already.

00:39:55.000 Okay, good.

00:39:56.000 Well, I'm down 15% in the last two weeks, and I spoke to Mr. Lukasiewicz today, and I spoke about precious metals Let

00:40:33.000 me comment on this because I'm not in business Uh, with our guest, Mr. Schiff.

00:40:38.000 Uh, we have him on because he has a track record of being about 95% right on predictions.

00:40:43.000 The establishment, and I appreciate your call, Clifford, has trained us.

00:40:46.000 Okay, stay there then.

00:40:47.000 The establishment has trained us to look at the market day to day, week to week, instead of on one year, two year, five year, ten year graphs.

00:40:55.000 Gold, Is going straight up.

00:40:57.000 Commodities of every type are going straight up because they're still going to have value, and then that will be adjusted with currencies as they're devalued.

00:41:04.000 Okay? And so, you know, I've read over Schiff.

00:41:06.000 He's saying invest in Europe, invest in other places.

00:41:09.000 That's not going to give you total protection.

00:41:11.000 It's statistically going to give you a higher protection than being in the center of where the H-bomb's going off, right here in the United States. 0.71

00:41:17.000 is that correct sir it's just that right now a lot of people are running towards the blast eventually they're going to turn away from the u_s_ but yeah A lot of these foreign assets are going down right now, but you know what?

00:41:28.000 It's a great time to buy them because we're getting a great deal.

00:41:31.000 It doesn't mean it's the absolute bottom, but a few years from now we're going to look back at these prices And kicking ourselves because we didn't buy even more!

00:41:38.000 Well, I'll tell you this.

00:41:39.000 I'm about being in nothing but solid now.

00:41:42.000 Because I don't trust any of it that's in any paper.

00:41:46.000 Certainly people should be conservative, but precious metals, all the way, you can't beat that.

00:41:50.000 It could go up or down, but bottom line, it has intrinsic value because of intrinsic scarcity.

00:41:55.000 Real fast, I want to get other callers in here.

00:41:57.000 Finish up, Clifford.

00:41:58.000 Well, I mentioned the gold multiple times in the last two weeks, and I know it's going up and down.

00:42:04.000 But I'm with you, and I'm looking for the protection of USED Solar Assets, and some of your managers don't think the same way.

00:42:12.000 I don't think the stocks that we're buying are real assets.

00:42:15.000 We're buying utilities, we're buying oil and gas companies, we're buying commodity companies.

00:42:20.000 Yeah, they're not buying leveraged paper.

00:42:22.000 We're buying real stuff around the world and getting dividend yields.

00:42:25.000 Listen, I appreciate your call.

00:42:27.000 Stocks go down.

00:42:28.000 Clifford, you can call if you're in business with our guest.

00:42:31.000 Talk to him then, okay?

00:42:32.000 We gave you two questions.

00:42:33.000 Let's go.

00:42:35.000 I mean, look, you're in a volatile market, folks.

00:42:36.000 It's going to get bad, okay?

00:42:37.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Chuck in Texas.

00:42:40.000 Yeah, my question was, in 1929, they tried to do a bailout, sort of, kinda.

00:42:50.000 they had more from jp morgan by a whole bunch of stocks no for a year it was a roller coaster yeah yeah and they were able to make it look like it was okay and Shortly after that, the market started going back to getting all crazy again, and then it just fell even harder than it was going to to begin with.

00:43:10.000 Yeah, that's the whole point.

00:43:11.000 They know that.

00:43:12.000 They're just trying to shore up their assets and keep the whole thing going as long as they can.

00:43:16.000 Let's get our guest's take on that.

00:43:18.000 Yeah, I mean, no question about it, but what we have to do is we have to keep our mind on the bigger picture and what's going to happen eventually to the value of the dollar.

00:43:28.000 And the fact that right now, you know, there is a global financial crisis because Americans, we borrowed trillions of dollars from the world and we can't pay it back.

00:43:36.000 And so the people around the world who've loaned us this money, they're suffering because they've lost a lot of wealth.

00:43:41.000 They bet big on Americans and they lost.

00:43:43.000 We also have an arrogant...

00:43:44.000 Their economies are far healthier than ours.

00:43:46.000 We also have an arrogant, predatory government that is going to keep squeezing as the states go bankrupt.

00:43:51.000 So watch your six, folks.

00:43:52.000 I know.

00:43:53.000 Look, some of the municipalities, or there's another big municipality that's about to file Chapter 11.

00:43:57.000 It'll be the biggest bankruptcy since Orange County.

00:43:59.000 And, you know, people are sitting in municipal bonds.

00:44:01.000 They think they're safe.

00:44:02.000 A lot of these municipalities are going to be going bankrupt in the next several years.

00:44:06.000 And even the ones that don't.

00:44:07.000 All you're going to get back is money that has very little value.

00:44:10.000 Also, the big brokerage firms have been roping into the pension funds and retirement funds. 0.96

00:44:14.000 Folks, you're screwed. 0.86

00:44:15.000 Get ready for the New World Order. 1.00

00:44:16.000 Let's go ahead and take another call here.

00:44:20.000 Let's talk to Nick in Brooklyn.

00:44:21.000 You're on the air.

00:44:22.000 Last caller for our guest.

00:44:23.000 Go ahead.

00:44:24.000 Alex, how are you doing?

00:44:25.000 Good. Go ahead and talk.

00:44:27.000 Listen, I've got a quick question.

00:44:28.000 Are you familiar with a guy named Lyndon LaRoche?

00:44:30.000 Yes, I just an hour ago said that I don't agree with his solutions of big government.

00:44:35.000 Okay, I must have missed that, because actually, I just wanted to know, you know, get your take on that stuff.

00:44:41.000 Well, I mean, he's right about a bunch of the problems, but I don't agree with their big government socialist solution, and we'll close out with Peter Schiff on that subject right now.

00:44:51.000 Well, I'm not even too familiar with the theories of Louis de Rouge and I know of him, but I don't really, I haven't really studied any of his stuff, but yeah, I'm sure he's, I'm sure he's come to some big government-type conclusions, and I find a lot of Look, I'm against the bailout.

00:45:16.000 But if they're just gonna give it to the private bankers, and if we're gonna have socialism, they might as well just give us If they're going to devalue our currency, just give us all a $50,000 check.

00:45:25.000 I mean, and that would spur the economy.

00:45:27.000 Yeah, just cut out the middleman of Wall Street.

00:45:29.000 Yeah, just take the money and drop it directly from the helicopters to the people instead of funneling it for Wall Street.

00:45:35.000 Directly from the helicopters.

00:45:37.000 All right, Peter Schiff, I'm going to get you back up in the near future.

00:45:40.000 Europac.net, thank you so much.

00:45:43.000 Sure thing.

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00:49:01.000 We've got other big guests tomorrow and throughout next week.

00:49:05.000 We will continue to track the criminal activities of the New World Order here on air for all of you. 0.97

00:49:15.000 But in these times of uncertainty, The American people are not taking this half as seriously as they will soon.

00:49:24.000 We are so easygoing, so comfortable, so used to everything basically being smooth.

00:49:32.000 Though we've been economically losing more and more over the last few decades, the very serious times are here.

00:49:38.000 Even more serious times are ahead.

00:49:42.000 And now more than ever, I need you, the listeners of this radio show.

00:49:45.000 To get on other radio talk shows, not just here on the network or the Patriot Network or other rinky-dink web things, but I need you to get on mainstream talk radio, on stations that air my show, other ones, and talk about how the bankers are engineering this, how bottom line, whether they did it by design or not, they engineered it.

00:50:04.000 They did it.

00:50:05.000 And how they're bringing us into some really bad times.

00:50:08.000 And for all the governments and everybody else who's been laughing and giggling, you know, government people, look, the party's over!

00:50:15.000 We got taken!

00:50:17.000 Now, Ted sold out of the, um, almost all of the buffalos.

00:50:25.000 The government ran out of them.

00:50:27.000 They can't get the gold, literally, to make them.

00:50:29.000 Other coins the U.S. Mint makes are in short supply.

00:50:32.000 They're limiting them to, you know, one or two coins per person.

00:50:35.000 You can't get buffalos from them.

00:50:36.000 Ted has some left, but he's limiting it to one coin per person.

00:50:41.000 These are the beautiful one-ounce buffalos.

00:50:43.000 He's got a bunch of others.

00:50:45.000 Uh, even American Eagles are shooting up.

00:50:47.000 You can't get them anywhere near spot.

00:50:49.000 Uh, everything's getting a premium.

00:50:51.000 It's getting hard to get, uh, French and European francs.

00:50:55.000 Ted has them.

00:50:56.000 These are great coins right at melt.

00:50:59.000 Ted gets them before gold goes up.

00:51:02.000 He passes it on to you.

00:51:03.000 So I just briefly, at the very end of the show, before we go into rebroadcast, On the internet at Infowars.com, the podcast, then come back live on the MNFM tomorrow, or on stations across the country to re-air it.

00:51:15.000 Ted, again, people need to get into this now before it's too late.

00:51:20.000 People are going to be wishing later they'd liquidated some of their paper crap and gotten into metals.

00:51:25.000 Before it's too late, my God, it's almost already too late with what's going on in this marketplace.

00:51:29.000 People need to wake up and they need to wake up fast.

00:51:32.000 You're talking about that Buffalo coin I offered them at $9.20.

00:51:35.000 I went on eBay just to see what they're getting for these things.

00:51:37.000 The closest one that I could find, what I'm selling them for, is $960.

00:51:42.000 And most of them are up at $1,100.

00:51:44.000 That's how much they're carrying premiums in the marketplace right now because there's nothing available.

00:51:49.000 In addition to this, the franks that I'm selling right now at $190 apiece at the moment, You can't even get them in the United States.

00:51:57.000 I have to import everyone from Europe because the entire supply is so low.

00:52:01.000 Just like Peter Schiff said, man, when the regular people open up to want to buy gold, there's going to be no gold available to them.

00:52:08.000 Absolutely, ladies and gentlemen.

00:52:09.000 I only wish that I had more capital.

00:52:12.000 All the capital I've got is locked into doing this TV deal.

00:52:15.000 We're building the studio right now.

00:52:17.000 We got the bigger office in three, four months.

00:52:19.000 We got the office, moved in.

00:52:21.000 We're building it.

00:52:21.000 I'm trying to be slow on the bids to finish the studio because it's so expensive to even build a cheap one.

00:52:28.000 But we're doing that, and we're going to stay here on the air, and I'm going to dump everything I've got into it.

00:52:32.000 So that's why I buy the books, buy the videos.

00:52:34.000 I don't even plug those anymore.

00:52:35.000 That's the biggest part.

00:52:39.000 Get Truth Rising, Endgame, Terror Storm.

00:52:41.000 People are waking up and listening now like they've never listened before.

00:52:45.000 Now is the time to be out engaging the public and waking them up.

00:52:48.000 And now is the time to be protecting yourself.

00:52:50.000 Okay, so you can call and get one of the Buffalos, because Ted wants to only sell what he's got in supply, but he's got plenty of the Franks, which are in short supply almost everywhere else.

00:52:59.000 What silver do you have, Ted?

00:53:01.000 Right now, still the best buy in silver are the dimes.

00:53:04.000 Right now, they're a buck sixty per dime, or a sixteen hundred per hundred, face that.

00:53:08.000 Those are the silver dimes, ladies and gentlemen.

00:53:11.000 1-800, give them the number.

00:53:13.000 1-800-686-2237.

00:53:17.000 Again, 1-800-686-2237.

00:53:20.000 Ted, thanks for coming on.

00:53:21.000 Retransmission on the web at one place.

00:53:23.000 Gotta go to those streams.

00:53:25.000 Theinfowars.com streams.

Alex Jones Show - October 02, 2008

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