Alex Jones Show - 20081006_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 and I'm telling everyone how much havoc.

00:00:01.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:04.000 For the next hour and 52 minutes, we're joined by David Icke, who is in the United States of California.

00:00:16.000 He had several events with more than 2,000 people, showing up to just one of them.

00:00:22.000 And we have the same type thing happen.

00:00:25.000 We have an event 1,200, 2,000 show up.

00:00:28.000 It is just incredible.

00:00:30.000 And this is only being done through the alternative media.

00:00:33.000 So while we see the stock market plunging 600 plus points today after the bankers got their empowerment immunity takeover bill, Understand that at least the good news is thousands to one, according to members of Congress, phone calls against it last week, even after the White House said depression, depression, and then didn't have the Plunge Protection Team prop up the market last Monday when it went down.

00:00:59.000 Over a trillion dollars.

00:01:00.000 Well, the same things happened today, after the bankers got their power, because this is part of a consolidation.

00:01:04.000 And David Icke is going to talk about that.

00:01:05.000 He's been writing about that for close to 20 years, how the main power of the New World Order in the physical realm is their banking fraud, their fractional reserve system.

00:01:14.000 But I want Icke to first talk, the man who needs no introduction, about the incredibly positive thing.

00:01:21.000 Because as the enemy moves against us, as they try to destroy the middle class and slave the people, so they've got to go to the government for their food, So that there can be a financial collapse, riots in the streets, so they can use the military on us as they're now announcing in mainstream news to be the saviors, so we accept a militarized banana boat economy.

00:01:39.000 The positive news that, this isn't hype when I say it, there is an awakening so huge it dwarfs anything a month ago, or anything a year ago.

00:01:47.000 It is exponential.

00:01:48.000 Here's an example.

00:01:49.000 We call up Chuck Norris to come on the show.

00:01:51.000 Never tried.

00:01:52.000 He goes, oh, I'm a huge fan.

00:01:53.000 I listen all the time.

00:01:54.000 I want to come on.

00:01:55.000 He comes on, endorses Ron Paul, moves away from the neocons, and says on air he agrees with everything I'm talking about.

00:02:02.000 I mean, again, Bruce Willis goes public and says, I'm no longer a neocon.

00:02:06.000 I know there's a new world order.

00:02:08.000 A false reality.

00:02:09.000 They're losing all their main icons on the left.

00:02:12.000 The left is waking up and breaking the paradigm and breaking the controlled tiny box reality and seeing the wider universe around them.

00:02:20.000 So there is a consciousness shift in information analysis and it is the hundredth monkey.

00:02:25.000 There is a group consciousness.

00:02:26.000 It is spreading, it is happening, it is a mass awareness.

00:02:30.000 And it is beautiful, and so out of this adversity, it's going to get bad.

00:02:34.000 We're going to be tested.

00:02:35.000 Realize that this is evil trying to maintain control.

00:02:39.000 David Icke, after a very successful tour, which thousands and thousands came out to see in California, we welcome you to the airwaves.

00:02:47.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:02:49.000 Sir, you've got the floor.

00:02:50.000 Let's break down the shift, what's happening, the positive, and then get into your analysis on the banking global takeover, then we'll get into the nature of reality itself.

00:02:58.000 Well, the thing is, Alex, that I've been a kind of barometer of this, because I've been doing it for so long, and when I started talking about these things in Britain in the early 1990s, well, it was just extraordinary, the scale of abuse and ridicule that came my way.

00:03:17.000 As the years have passed, I've seen this gradually change, and then since 9-11, and another shift after the invasion of Iraq, I've seen it explode.

00:03:28.000 And what we're seeing now is something I talked about a long time ago.

00:03:32.000 When something is covertly manipulating along a road to change society in a certain way, there comes a point where it has to break the surface where it can be seen, because that which it wants to change starts to happen in front of people's eyes.

00:03:49.000 And this, and what we're talking about today with the finance and everything, is putting in the face of people what they have, and I understand why, what they have tried so hard to deny was reality.

00:04:02.000 And therefore, they're finding it more and more difficult to look the other way and say, no, no, let's change the subject.

00:04:10.000 And all this together, and there's a consciousness awakening as well, very clearly.

00:04:15.000 People are waking up and expanding their consciousness on a scale never before in a time that I've known anyway.

00:04:22.000 And together it's bringing people to a state of awareness where they are seeing what is actually happening.

00:04:31.000 Now we need to go to the next stage now.

00:04:33.000 People are coming out and listening to this information in vast numbers.

00:04:36.000 They're listening to programs like yours in vast numbers.

00:04:39.000 What we need to do now is start to get together Drop the fault lines between left and right and center and progressives and all this other stuff and religion and all the rest of it and come together and cross the street and start engaging with this system.

00:04:55.000 And by engaging, ironically, I mean disengaging with it, ceasing to allow it to enslave us, ceasing to cooperate with our own enslavement.

00:05:04.000 because as I talked about last time I was on the show, there are six billion people plus now being manipulated.

00:05:11.000 There is, at the core, a relative handful doing the manipulating.

00:05:15.000 I see a way out of this, but we have to come together, and it's starting, and I'm extremely optimistic, because now we're in this window of time where the problem is there blatantly in front of us, The game is more and more blatantly in front of us, and that is engaging and focusing people to the understanding that doing nothing is no longer an option.

00:05:39.000 It's a great time of opportunity, this.

00:05:41.000 And they only are able to control us by us ourselves, keeping ourselves in that box, in self-regulating to where we're afraid to speak up or afraid to talk to neighbors, and so we just go and watch the television.

00:05:56.000 But again, that is starting to break up, that is starting That is starting to shift and it's so beautiful to see, but before we get into the larger shifts in society and how there's only probably less than a hundred global masterminds, a few thousand technicians under them who really get the full structure of the New World Order, There are tens of millions worldwide who have organically reverse-engineered what they're doing to a stunning level.

00:06:22.000 We're able to predict what they're going to do and that's really starting to threaten them and that's why they're talking about bringing in total dictatorial martial law to try to suppress it.

00:06:32.000 I see that act of desperation as a huge failure.

00:06:35.000 But let's get into the economics first and break down what we're seeing with the banker takeover, how they're proposing a world banking system out of the crisis they created.

00:06:46.000 Well, I've heard, I've not been so focused on everything.

00:06:51.000 I've been traveling and moving constantly for about 10 days, two weeks, but I have heard the idea that this banking crisis is like bad for the bankers and is not what they wanted.

00:07:05.000 We've got to understand a few things.

00:07:08.000 First of all, the people who are manipulating the banking system do not own just the banks.

00:07:14.000 They own the game.

00:07:15.000 They own the system.

00:07:16.000 Now, if you own football, it doesn't matter if one team beats another team or another team beats the other team.

00:07:23.000 Because you own the game.

00:07:24.000 You can't lose.

00:07:25.000 So just because Merrill Lynch is absorbed by the Bank of America or this bank goes down and its clientele is taken over by this bank, it doesn't matter because the names on the doors are changing.

00:07:38.000 the masks on the face are changing, but you own the game.

00:07:41.000 Those are just cutouts!

00:07:43.000 Exactly!

00:07:44.000 And if you own the game, you can manipulate the game because you're controlling the rules of the game.

00:07:50.000 So what we're looking at...

00:07:52.000 And this has been long predicted, and this is one of the real powerful things, Alex, at this time.

00:07:58.000 And why it was so important to get this information out about the game and how it's played and what the goals are over the years gone by, because that gives credibility when people look at it and say, hold on a second, this was predicted, this is not just happening now.

00:08:15.000 And this really does start to take power from the way they manipulate, giving us the impression that, oh no, this is just a problem that's just come out of nothing.

00:08:23.000 No, no, no.

00:08:24.000 It's been planned for years.

00:08:25.000 And the plan is for a centralization of power in every area of our lives and every area of global society, including politics, business, and all the rest of it.

00:08:36.000 Now, crucial to that is banking.

00:08:39.000 They want a World Central Bank that dictates to the whole of the global financial system, the whole of the global banking industry, and their families are going to control that.

00:08:49.000 That's the idea.

00:08:51.000 Diversity is the worst nightmare of the dictator. 1.00

00:08:55.000 You look at any tyranny, if you want to centralize power, it's no good having lots and lots of points of decision-making, and diversity of decision-making, because you can't centrally control that.

00:09:06.000 And just look at the way society's gone through the centuries.

00:09:09.000 It's exactly the same way.

00:09:11.000 Centralization of power constantly.

00:09:13.000 Because you can only control from the center in the hands of a few, if your center holds the power that affects Vast numbers of people eventually everyone as they plan so the more and more diversity there is in the banking system Alex the less power you're going to have over it because there are going to be banks and Financial systems that you're not going to control to the extent that you want you want to take them out

00:09:36.000 You want to centralize a power you want to remove as much as you can the number of names the number of the amount of diversity And that's why the high-level private central banks that are not your regular Main Street banks issued over a thousand trillion in liquidity to other banks and institutions and changed the rules so they could sell derivatives and get into all this fraud because now the elite above get to orchestrate the consolidation.

00:10:02.000 They get to send down the regulators.

00:10:03.000 They get to send the tax money to the central A small inner sanctum or coterie of banks, so that they can manipulate the consolidation.

00:10:12.000 And in the IMF and World Bank documents, in their own statements, in what Kissinger said last week, what was in the Wall Street Journal, Financial Times of London, they all are saying that!

00:10:23.000 The Financial Times of London said, actually this is good for a few megabanks, and they're the ones that changed the rules.

00:10:29.000 Meanwhile, you have all these people in alternative media running around saying, oh no, it's an accident.

00:10:33.000 It's an accident.

00:10:34.000 It's key for the establishment, the controllers, to sell that lie, so they don't get the blame for what they've orchestrated, so they can play the part of the savior, setting up the World Banking Cartel, which we buy carbon credits from, which are a tax on human breathing, not all the real environmental problems we have, so they can regulate our everyday life with carbon checkpoints and carbon audits of our homes.

00:10:58.000 Yeah, you see, this is a big point to get across.

00:11:04.000 People, and I understand why, because that's what they're led to believe, they see private banks and they see the central banks in the different countries as separate.

00:11:14.000 But the same families control both sides.

00:11:18.000 Now, this is the game.

00:11:19.000 They control the game.

00:11:21.000 So, whether private banks go out of business or not in this crash and crisis that's going on, they control the central banks.

00:11:30.000 They will control, if we allow them to do it, the World Central Bank, and therefore they will control the system.

00:11:37.000 The names will be different, but the system will be controlled by them.

00:11:41.000 That's right.

00:11:41.000 The system equals control.

00:11:43.000 That's the whole idea.

00:11:43.000 David, let's finish up with this topic.

00:11:45.000 They move as one unit all around the world.

00:11:47.000 They move as one unit because they have a central bank.

00:11:50.000 Let's back up about a minute.

00:11:50.000 David, stop there.

00:11:51.000 I want you to be able to finish that point when we come back.

00:11:54.000 Stay with us.

00:11:58.000 Alright, we're still on air streaming.

00:12:00.000 We're still on air streaming, but let me just talk to David for a second for the InfoWars viewers out there.

00:12:05.000 David?

00:12:06.000 Yes, mate.

00:12:06.000 You've got a three-minute break.

00:12:07.000 We'll be right back to you.

00:12:08.000 Let's finish up with the banking and then get into the bigger picture.

00:12:11.000 Okay.

00:12:12.000 Thank you so much, my friend.

00:12:12.000 No problem.

00:12:14.000 I'll tell you one point I could make, Alex.

00:12:17.000 What they've done with this trillion-dollar-plus bailout is they've undermined the financial security of America while actually doing nothing to change what it was supposed to change.

00:12:32.000 And, you know, if we get into China as well, because I think China is closing in, if it's not the biggest holder of American debt.

00:12:40.000 Now, who's going to pick up this trillion dollar debt?

00:12:42.000 And Henry Paulson has made a hundred visits to China, discussing China.

00:12:49.000 Well, let's come back and talk about all of that and explain to people, you know, how they're running the scam.

00:12:56.000 We'll be back in three minutes.

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00:15:56.000 All right, folks, we're back live with David Eich, our guest for the Balance of the Radio show today.

00:16:07.000 We'll open the phones up towards the end of the show in the next hour.

00:16:12.000 The key here is that the unprecedented action out in the open of the President All the major leaders of the two parties, the Treasury Secretary saying, there's going to be a depression, financial abyss, you've got to pass this Banker Bailout Bill.

00:16:25.000 And you read the bill, immunity, unlimited power, they can do whatever they want, commit basically any financial crime they want, and it doesn't say $850 billion, doesn't say $700 billion, it says $5 trillion, if you really read the fine print, as Bloomberg Financial and others reported.

00:16:41.000 So they are the ones terrorizing the market to plunge.

00:16:44.000 Then they forced through the bill, and last Friday we had the congressman on.

00:16:48.000 It was on C-SPAN.

00:16:51.000 They were threatened with physical martial law, David.

00:16:55.000 I know you've been traveling, you may not know this.

00:16:56.000 We can play the clip if you want to hear it.

00:16:57.000 They were threatened with martial law if they didn't pass it.

00:17:01.000 Now CNN, BBC, Army Times are reporting the Army is to be used during riots.

00:17:06.000 But again, problem, reaction, solution.

00:17:08.000 They implode the economy, the welfare checks stop going out, things break down, there's riots, the military saves us, the precedent is set.

00:17:15.000 So just amazing how they're right out in the open doing all of this, David.

00:17:20.000 Yeah, because we've reached that point, Alex, where it has to break the surface to become the changes in society that they've been working covertly for for so long.

00:17:30.000 This is the key, in terms of America, for what's happening on so many levels, in my opinion anyway, and I've been writing this for years.

00:17:38.000 And what I said was that they're going to use America, or are using America, to destroy America. 0.95

00:17:43.000 Why?

00:17:44.000 Because they want a world government.

00:17:48.000 A world government cannot possibly have total global power while there's any superpower with massive military and financial might that has, through that, the ability to say to the world government, excuse me, we're not doing that, we're not accepting what you're dictating and telling us to do.

00:18:07.000 So what they've been doing, and it's been so blatant to me, is that they are using America to destroy America.

00:18:14.000 First of all, militarily.

00:18:16.000 They're stretching America all over the place militarily and weakening them on that level.

00:18:22.000 And now they're attacking the American economy on a massive scale.

00:18:26.000 And this trillion, and as you rightly say, basically open checkbook, so-called bailout, is not designed to solve the crisis.

00:18:36.000 It's designed to further massively undermine The American economy and American financial security.

00:18:45.000 And who's holding this debt now that, that, um, this, uh, goodness knows how much more debt that's coming in and the debt that's already, uh, owed by America.

00:18:54.000 Not that it is debt, it's money that doesn't exist.

00:18:56.000 It's a, it's a scam, but people like China are holding massive amounts of this. 0.74

00:19:00.000 And I found it very interesting, you know, that Henry Paulson, As Chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, which was massively involved in this subprime scam, then becomes Treasury Secretary.

00:19:14.000 He has apparently made at least a hundred visits to China discussing financial matters with the Chinese authorities.

00:19:23.000 And here's China picking up more and more of this debt. 0.69

00:19:27.000 I was warned ages ago by various insiders, watch for the time when China becomes Uh, big economic and military power, because that's when you're going to see the action start. 0.87

00:19:39.000 And what happens when China says, hold on a second, we own, we all hold all this debt.

00:19:45.000 Therefore, you know, you're not paying us back.

00:19:47.000 You get in more and more trouble.

00:19:48.000 We want the assets, please, for the debt that we hold.

00:19:52.000 Then you've got potential for conflict between the two.

00:19:56.000 And I was told a long time ago that It's leading to a conflict involving China, the Third World War, to bring in, finally, this whole structure of world government, world central bank, world army, microchip population, world currency, and all the rest of it.

00:20:10.000 So all these things are moving as one unit.

00:20:14.000 They appear to be, to most people, unconnected as you look at the invasion of Iraq.

00:20:19.000 Afghanistan and its finances.

00:20:21.000 That was also meant to demonize one flow of energy.

00:20:26.000 That was also meant to demonize the name of the U.S.

00:20:28.000 to put the sins of the new world order on the U.S.

00:20:30.000 like they used the Soviets previously to carry out their dirty work. 0.96

00:20:33.000 They also need a global economic crisis that can be blamed on America to set up their world government and now all over the financial papers the last two weeks they proposed the private banks becoming the world government.

00:20:47.000 I mean, that is so unbelievable!

00:20:48.000 I was reading a piece when I was traveling about the head of the IMF saying that the IMF should become a central coordinating, basically, police force for the global banking system.

00:21:01.000 There's the open suggestion now, this World Central Bank that we've been talking about for so long.

00:21:09.000 And so, what we're looking at is Ironically, while America is getting this flag, while America gets the thinker pointed at it, actually, although it's firing the bullets, if you like, in places like Iraq and Afghanistan and what have you, the gun's being loaded in Europe, and there in Europe, you know, in the centre of the secret society web, Europe is basically going, who, me?

00:21:36.000 I've got nothing to do with it, it's America!

00:21:39.000 Gotta break when we come back.

00:21:40.000 Long segment.

00:21:41.000 I want to hear your solutions.

00:21:42.000 How to combat this now.

00:21:44.000 I say expose is really behind it, A, but what else can we do?

00:21:48.000 We're on the march.

00:21:49.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:21:56.000 All right, I know we're on air, everybody, for a few stations that don't even carry some of the breaks, and for the Internet viewers at PrisonPlanet.tv and folks listening at InfoWars.com.

00:22:06.000 But, David, don't say anything too much of substance here so some of the full audience can't hear it.

00:22:12.000 We're going to be back in two minutes and we'll finish up with this and then get into the nature of reality itself and how people can shift their paradigm into a larger horizon, okay?

00:22:23.000 That would be great.

00:22:24.000 Okay, we'll be back in two minutes, sir.

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00:25:16.000 New York's had five billion in cameras put in the last four years.

00:25:19.000 Boston in one year had two billion dollars worth of cameras put in.

00:25:22.000 Homeland Security's now announced all those free federal traffic cameras, they were DARPA designed by the Pentagon to watch you.

00:25:28.000 They're scanning your faces.

00:25:31.000 Now, instead of doing any of that, they are saying they're going to bail out all the states.

00:25:35.000 $7 billion for California, $5 billion for Florida.

00:25:39.000 They're going to, quote, bail out select crony corporations owned by the same private central banks.

00:25:46.000 The stock market's down by 700 plus points right now, and plunging, dwarfing what happened last Monday.

00:25:52.000 They promised you if you submitted and gave them unlimited power, they'd be nice to you.

00:25:57.000 And now there's debates on talk radio and TV about, did they say the bailout would do that?

00:26:02.000 Or are people making that up?

00:26:06.000 They know the public doesn't have a memory for last week, or does the public?

00:26:09.000 David, I want to finish up with the economy and get into the nature of reality, but there seems to be a shocking of the conscience.

00:26:15.000 And I've seen that in some psychological tests they've done.

00:26:19.000 At major universities studying rodent psychology, which is very similar to human group psychology, in these controlled mazes, shocking, yelling, noise, heat, cold on rats, till they finally just go into a catatonic state and shake in the corner.

00:26:34.000 And you know, having CBS News come out and say, Mercury is good for your brain, Taking mercury shots helps your brain cells.

00:26:41.000 Now, that's an actual newscast.

00:26:43.000 I've played it 50 times.

00:26:44.000 I'm not going to play it today, but if you want, I'll play it.

00:26:46.000 Or, I've got MSNBC saying, actually, poison in food is good for China.

00:26:51.000 We need poison in the food. 0.56

00:26:55.000 And then tens of thousands, just finishing up this statement, tens of thousands get sick from melamine, on purpose, in the milk, because it shows on a protein test, if somebody tests it, that it has high protein, and then it turns out it's in a bunch of food lines here in the U.S., where most of the food additives and drugs get made, for the U.S.

00:27:15.000 and now in China, same for Europe, and they admit it's killing hundreds of Chinese that drink too much, And it attacks your kidneys, gives you cancer, and the FDA comes out yesterday and says, actually, it's good for you.

00:27:28.000 So it seems like they're almost lying to be caught, as you said, to surface and shock everyone into just kind of submitting your comments.

00:27:38.000 Well, this will be kind of very interesting.

00:27:43.000 We've been talking about with the food additives and stuff when we get into the nature of reality and the way it's manipulated.

00:27:48.000 But in terms of the laboratory mouse or the laboratory rat, well enough, in my talks I do a section about that.

00:27:57.000 And it's very clear that when you put it all together, Alex, when you put all the shocks, all the constant instructions, all the do's and don'ts, All the punishments for increasingly fine detail little things like, I talked about last time, people being fined in Britain for feeding the birds, people being fined for putting a card in their car saying it's for sale when it's their own car.

00:28:22.000 What it is like is exactly like laboratory rat because of course when you, when they're doing those experiments, when the rat goes down certain channels he gets a shock.

00:28:33.000 After a few shocks, it doesn't go down that channel anymore, and you can take the shock equipment away, it still won't go down that channel, because it's been programmed not to do that by the carrot and the stick.

00:28:42.000 It's okay going down this one, we'll leave you alone.

00:28:44.000 Go down that one, there's a problem.

00:28:46.000 Now, take this on a mass scale.

00:28:49.000 all the things that are being thrown at us.

00:28:51.000 And that's what they're doing.

00:28:53.000 They are manipulating so many shocks on the mind, creating so many fears, so many traumas, that we become subservient.

00:29:03.000 And this, and basically anything for a quiet life, yes, sir, no, sir, just save me.

00:29:08.000 Well, here's an example.

00:29:09.000 In England and the U.S., if an adult is at the park, and I, you know, when I was single, went for walks at the park all the time, or jogs, the police come over and ask, are you a pedophile?

00:29:18.000 I mean, how bizarre.

00:29:19.000 Or, um, Steve Watson, Out for a date in London, they come over and put him in a terror database.

00:29:26.000 Clean cut, nice looking guy, with a master's degree in political science, with a great looking girlfriend.

00:29:31.000 Everybody I know in England has had this happen to them.

00:29:33.000 It happened to me when I was there, where they put me in a terror database.

00:29:37.000 They're letting you know you're a slave.

00:29:40.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:29:41.000 And, you know, it's something that is very important for people to appreciate, that we've been bombarded with shocks on purpose so that we will become subservient and we will give our power away.

00:29:56.000 And I'll tell you a wonderful example, which really was encapsulated in one headline.

00:30:00.000 When the tasers started coming out, when we started giving out, I'm not saying all police are like this.

00:30:06.000 But now they've gotten us conditioned to daily deaths.

00:30:08.000 Yeah, I've met a few policemen who, if they had a brain cell, it would die of loneliness. 0.97

00:30:14.000 And we're giving these people 55,000 volts of electricity to shoot at people.

00:30:18.000 Now, there was an article in the newspaper which was looking at this when they first came in, and the headline encapsulated exactly what we're talking about here.

00:30:27.000 It said, I'll do anything you say, officer.

00:30:30.000 Just don't use that thing on me.

00:30:33.000 And that encapsulates this whole mind game.

00:30:36.000 It's a cattle prod.

00:30:37.000 It's a cattle prod for cows in this slaughterhouse.

00:30:41.000 It's a cattle prod.

00:30:42.000 Go ahead.

00:30:43.000 Exactly.

00:30:44.000 But what we mustn't do...

00:30:46.000 and when we get into the nature of reality and the true nature of who we are as opposed to the false identity we've been We've been sold from cradle to grave Then you lose the fear and you lose this subservience You know someone with an expanded consciousness Who looks in the mirror and realizes that what they're looking at is what they're experiencing not who they are they Don't fall for this stuff.

00:31:09.000 And that's why this awakening, and it's an awakening from an hypnotic trance, that's what it is.

00:31:15.000 Calling it an awakening is a very good term because that's what it is.

00:31:18.000 It's like someone in a hypnotist stage show having the fingers clicked and they wake up from the trance.

00:31:25.000 Most of humanity is in an absolute hypnotic trance that they're put in from cradle to grave by constant repetition of a fake reality.

00:31:36.000 And when we wake up from this, then we will not be subservient.

00:31:40.000 Then we will cross the street and start to engage with this.

00:31:44.000 And by the way, the first step is the biggest.

00:31:46.000 Once you realize you are in a hypnotic state with your literal brainwaves from the television, the average American now, the average Brit, they've done studies and we've posted them on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:31:57.000 I've also seen them on DavidIke.com.

00:31:59.000 That people are now in a lower brainwave state than they were just 30-40 years ago.

00:32:06.000 People are in a sleep state.

00:32:09.000 They are in a glazed-eyed state.

00:32:12.000 And what David is telling you is absolutely true.

00:32:16.000 Yeah, well, when you start to look at what reality is, then this conspiracy takes on a whole new depth, and indeed you get closer and closer to the foundations of it, because the foundations of it, it plays out as banking scams, it plays out as political scams, it plays out as engineered wars, all of which are absolutely vital for us to know about, because you can't cease to be a slave until you realize you are one and what the game is.

00:32:39.000 So that's vital information.

00:32:41.000 But alongside that, We need to understand not just what the prison looks like, but how we open the door and indeed stop the door finally slamming shut.

00:32:50.000 And to do that, we need to understand reality because the core people, behind the people, behind the people, the shadow people as I call them, they understand the nature of the reality that we're experiencing.

00:33:03.000 And they have worked tirelessly and endlessly to manipulate the structure of society and the information allowed to circulate in society to keep the people in total ignorance of the very reality that they're experiencing.

00:33:18.000 And how can we possibly be free in a world that we don't even know what the world is?

00:33:24.000 We don't know who we are.

00:33:26.000 We don't know the nature of the reality we're experiencing.

00:33:28.000 If we don't start to get an understanding of that information, then again, just like the banking system, we're pawns in a game where someone else knows the rules and we don't.

00:33:39.000 And that's why this whole area of pawns, Who are we?

00:33:43.000 Where are we?

00:33:44.000 What is the nature of reality is so absolutely vital, because it offers the key to the door.

00:33:49.000 And that's why it's my prime focus now, because this is where the key is held, to open the door to this prison cell that they're building by the minute.

00:33:59.000 Now to simplify that, they are trying to shock us now and intensify the amount of outrageousness Well, you know, when they say, Cadbury cakes filled with melamine are good for you, they're doing that because some even greater horrors and intensification of the tyranny is coming, and they're trying to acclimate the mind to where we're so shocked that we're basically numb, and so what you're saying

00:34:24.000 And you're absolutely right from my perspective and my life and studying history and philosophy and sociology and what's happening is once you realize you're being manipulated, once you understand you're being programmed, once you understand that's going on, then you start looking and then it's a progression of levels as you become more and more aware and that's what the enemy is in a race to block and stop.

00:34:48.000 Yeah, when you expand your consciousness, your energy field starts to vibrate quicker and quicker and quicker.

00:34:56.000 As you close your consciousness and you become a prisoner almost entirely of the five senses in how you see reality, you see possibility, and the five senses decode reality in sense of levitation i can't the five senses are telling us all the time how powerless we are how how many things we can't do how limited we are as you expand your consciousness that dramatically changes

00:35:26.000 so if you can hold people in a low vibrational state because everything is vibrating energy uh in different forms then you are literally we we use these truisms as throwaway lines in our everyday life you are literally closing the minds of people so anything that will slow us down vibrationally is is and fear is the biggest one um will make us more and more closed-minded and have a more more limited

00:35:55.000 view of possibility in our own selves and we're being bombarded to that end by food additives by additives in drink and water by all the shocks that you're talking about by all the things that create the um the laboratory rat scenario and of course what when we're in fear and when we're in stress what do we say oh i feel so heavy i feel so tight why because you're going into a lower and lower vibrational state and the more you do the more

00:36:24.000 the five senses dominate your reality and where do the five senses look alex to get a fix on who we are and what's going on in the world They look outside into this world.

00:36:34.000 And then Madison Avenue tells the women they're ugly and inadequate, so they get even more depressed and don't realize what incredible dynamic creatures they are.

00:36:42.000 Men think they need to be manly and start fights and only like football and not be good parents. 0.86

00:36:47.000 All of it is to hamstring us.

00:36:49.000 But let me throw out a historical example of Horizons and expanding your vision.

00:36:57.000 The elite, of course, have suppressed a lot of history.

00:37:00.000 But they know that we are, quote, made in the image of the Creator.

00:37:03.000 We are great creators.

00:37:05.000 We can build things.

00:37:06.000 And that's why a science fiction writer like Jules Verne or HG Wells or any of these people, they could expand just their imagination and almost everything they wrote about and talked about has now manifest because what the mind imagines in steps it is able to later construct Through this group community, this mass organism that we know of as humanity.

00:37:28.000 So that's why the elite know to stop a true renaissance to the stars, they have to make us petty, small, hateful, to turn against each other, and fearful of taking action.

00:37:39.000 Now, I say there's a balance there.

00:37:41.000 People call it fear.

00:37:43.000 When I say we've got to take action and go out and warn the people about the New World Order or they're going to enslave us, that isn't fear.

00:37:49.000 I'm saying we have a positive way to stop this, but things will be bad if we don't.

00:37:56.000 That's just telling people the lay of the land.

00:37:59.000 They use a false fear of, uh, keep your mouth shut and everything will be alright.

00:38:04.000 If you don't, you'll be in trouble.

00:38:05.000 Do you see what I'm saying, David?

00:38:06.000 Because I've been very successful in different ways than you have.

00:38:08.000 You've been successful in other ways than I. By getting people moving, by being a cold bucket of ice water when they're in a trance, I am able, uh, with the information to shock them into waking, and then they find people like David Icke.

00:38:22.000 Do you see the point I'm saying?

00:38:24.000 Yeah, I mean, the biggest aspect of this whole conspiracy, Alex, in my view, is that they have manipulated humanity into a false sense of identity.

00:38:36.000 It's a sense of identity that looks in the mirror in the morning and says, that is me.

00:38:42.000 I am Chuck Jones.

00:38:43.000 I am Ethel Smith.

00:38:45.000 When we are consciousness, having an experience as Chuck Jones and Ethel Smith, and if you identify who you are with the vehicle, then you are gonna identify yourself with the reality of the vehicle, which is limitation, I can't, powerlessness.

00:39:05.000 We need to start to understand that the prime bottom line, foundation of this conspiracy is to put us in this fake identity where we identify with being human as human is what we are.

00:39:22.000 Human is what we are experiencing.

00:39:24.000 Now, when near-death experiences have these now in their millions recorded experiences of leaving the body when the body dies, and then coming back again when the body's revived.

00:39:35.000 They tell extraordinarily common stories of what they experienced in the intervening time, where their consciousness massively expanded, where they were seeing the past, the present, and the future at the same time, where there was no time, where there was no sequence of events even, where they had this amazing where there was no sequence of events even, where they had this amazing ability to process information on a scale that they would think was ridiculous, impossible when they're

00:40:02.000 See, what the body does, Alex, I had this, I was sitting in the bath a few months ago, and I had this Vision in my mind, it went like this.

00:40:11.000 First of all, there was a swirling energy, and I knew immediately that was symbolic of consciousness.

00:40:16.000 Then an eye appeared in the energy, and in front of the eye appeared a telescope, and on the end of the telescope was the Earth and this universe.

00:40:27.000 And then, this is the crucial point, the telescope morphed into a human body.

00:40:33.000 And what the human body is, It's like what it is, a biological computer, but what it does... It's your narrowly focused consciousness.

00:40:42.000 It locks it into a certain frequency range of reality, which scientists call visible light.

00:40:49.000 People think when they look out of their eyes that they're seeing everything that exists in the space they're looking at.

00:40:53.000 They are not.

00:40:55.000 They are looking at a tiny, tiny frequency range of the mass and matter that Mainstream science says exists in this universe, and there's a lot more than they've discovered yet.

00:41:06.000 The electromagnetic spectrum is 0.005% of that, and visible light is a fraction of the 0.005%.

00:41:15.000 That is the only frequency range that our eyes decode and our brain and genetic system decodes.

00:41:22.000 And sharing the same space as this, if you like, television station, which we call physical reality, are endless other realities, just like in the space that I'm sitting here now.

00:41:33.000 All the radio and television stations broadcasting to California are in the space that I'm occupying.

00:41:40.000 They're not interfering with each other.

00:41:42.000 They're not aware of each other unless they're really close on the dial, but they're sharing the same space.

00:41:46.000 And we are experiencing a frequency range, which we decode into this reality.

00:41:54.000 And the physical body, the body computer, locks us into that frequency range.

00:41:59.000 So when we leave the body, and these near-death experiences experience this, we leave that limitation, that focus, that television station, and suddenly we expand to the full magnitude of who we are.

00:42:10.000 What the conspiracy is about, because at the core the shadow people understand this, is hypnotizing us From cradle to grave, to believe that we are the vehicle which is focusing our consciousness to experience this reality, and that we are as limited as that vehicle perceives the world.

00:42:31.000 That is how you can turn humanity, infinite consciousness, into infinite expressions, into a herd of sheep.

00:42:37.000 When we break that understanding, when we move our point of observation from, I am Chuck Jones, I have no power, to I am infinite consciousness, are having an experience, and I can take that understanding, that power, and I can change this reality because I know I'm the genius that I am.

00:42:53.000 David, we have to break right now.

00:42:54.000 We're going to talk behind the scenes.

00:42:56.000 David?

00:42:59.000 Is David there?

00:43:02.000 Yes, mate.

00:43:03.000 Yeah, sorry.

00:43:04.000 We had to go to break.

00:43:05.000 We're on satellites, so we had to break.

00:43:08.000 Let's come back.

00:43:09.000 I don't know how you keep up with all these different bits, Alex.

00:43:11.000 No, no, you're doing a great job.

00:43:13.000 It's easy.

00:43:14.000 It's the same every day.

00:43:15.000 We're going to, I mean, I figure this.

00:43:18.000 We're going out on AM and FM dial and shortwave and satellite and all this.

00:43:22.000 There needs to be breaks for the stations.

00:43:24.000 Sure.

00:43:24.000 But if I'm here and we're going to do this, We've got limited time, and we have millions watching on the internet, you know, hundreds of thousands right now, but over time, millions.

00:43:34.000 Why not in space and time, not waste that time, because this has passed on?

00:43:39.000 I mean, talking about reality, look at cyberspace.

00:43:41.000 It is a real reality now of data, and it's taking our life experiences and our interface, and it is saving that through the space-time continuum, and then it interfaces with this plane of existence.

00:43:56.000 and i had a lot of that's a very important point if you want if you want to bring that up because the the the internet is such a mirror of our reality for enough well certainly and and the uh...

00:44:07.000 i don't think some of the listeners may realize that you're talking about mathematics by mainline physicist and quantum mechanics physicist You're talking about real information about all these overlaid dimensions.

00:44:19.000 And regardless, take Colonel Craig Roberts, you know, Marine Corps sniper, Army colonel, police officer.

00:44:27.000 He had a surgery for a huge, like, you know, pound tumor in his stomach.

00:44:31.000 And he died for about ten minutes on the table.

00:44:34.000 Right.

00:44:35.000 And he literally went through the vortex, he went before this all-powerful entity, and he was downloaded, and this is the type of guy, he's real conservative and straight-laced, this happened in the late nineties, he was downloaded all this information, just like you described it back in the early nineties,

00:44:53.000 And it was literally just beamed into him, and then this quote, guardian angel, you know, this other thing that had always been there recording everything, it said, no, I'm now going to take you back so you can tell people, and that's that same story over and over again in other cultures throughout times, on the Sanskrit, and on all the other tablets.

00:45:13.000 And definitely this is a body suit.

00:45:17.000 This is a space suit for our soul.

00:45:20.000 Exactly.

00:45:20.000 But I found like the yogis in the East, if people get too deep into this, and then that's all they do, they just sit in a pile of crap on the side of the street in New Delhi, instead of understanding there's a balance between that and then the real manifestation, but taking the confidence of the wider horizons and then putting it into action in this spectrum, a very important reality.

00:45:45.000 We're here for a reason.

00:45:46.000 I think that's key.

00:45:47.000 So I want to speak to that because I see a lot of mystics and people, you know, who get into the higher levels of humanity, but they never spend any time going out and warning somebody on the street about the New World Order.

00:45:57.000 So here we go.

00:46:02.000 All they want us to do is keep on forcing and fighting.

00:46:15.000 They don't want to see us live together.

00:46:19.000 All they want us to do.

00:46:22.000 All they want us to do is keep on killing one another.

00:46:29.000 What an amazing discussion with David Icke.

00:46:36.000 During the breaks, we're doing some behind-the-scenes talking, but I'd like to keep it congruent to the full audience.

00:46:41.000 But you can go over to the InfoWars.com streams, the PrisonPlanet.com streams.

00:46:45.000 Those are separate from any others, including Genesis, and hear the expanded interview there or watch on PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:46:52.000 Don't forget, with your PrisonPlanet.tv membership, you make what we do here possible.

00:46:57.000 You get all my films in super high quality to burn them to disk and give to folks, a factory of resistance.

00:47:02.000 All my films, 20 of them now, 19 I made, 20th I produced, my book and so many other great books and videos we carry are available at InfoWars.com and it is your funding of our operation that allows us to continue but the most important thing is the materials are waking people up and people Are more ready to receive this information than ever before.

00:47:23.000 Another great place to find out a lot of shocking information which regardless will open your horizons, make you question and regardless of whether it's all correct or not, it is extremely positive to question.

00:47:34.000 And I see that's the genius of David Icke, and I really agree with him on 98% of what he covers.

00:47:39.000 I just haven't been able to tangibly prove the other 2%. 0.99

00:47:42.000 My gut tells me, for God's sake, it's probably true.

00:47:45.000 But the point is that I stick to what I can prove more in this plane of existence.

00:47:50.000 Yes, because I found that's more successful with people who aren't further down the research line.

00:47:54.000 Everybody should visit DavidIke.com.

00:47:57.000 Just Google David Ike, and of course you spell his name, I-C-K-E, and he's got a lot of great books and videos available there at DavidIke.com.

00:48:09.000 Okay, David, we've got about four minutes until this segment's over.

00:48:12.000 We'll already be into the second hour.

00:48:14.000 You were getting into the nature of reality when I had to cut you off.

00:48:17.000 For the break there and how we are limited down to just this level of life and everybody knows in their gut and everything else that there's something more.

00:48:24.000 The sixth sense is proven.

00:48:26.000 You know when somebody's looking at you in a restaurant.

00:48:27.000 You know when you're in the woods and somebody's over the next hill.

00:48:30.000 I mean there's so much more to all of this and the enemy is obsessed with it.

00:48:35.000 And they're into dark energy and they're into torture and blood and death.

00:48:39.000 I mean the best example In the last few months is a sickening artist like Damien Hirst who sells a bucket of maggots, you know, a jar of maggots for four million pounds or a crystal devil skull for a hundred million pounds or ninety eight million pounds or images of razor blades and blood and tortured babies for twenty million pounds and the elite go and buy this and they say we're buying this because we are worshipping this.

00:49:06.000 This is how we adorate this.

00:49:11.000 Everything in the end comes down to a vibrational state.

00:49:14.000 The lower it is, the more limited you are, the more narrow-minded, I would say, narrow-banded you are, the more you expand your consciousness, the more the energy vibrates quicker.

00:49:26.000 The thing is that we are experiencing a band of frequencies.

00:49:30.000 Now, our consciousness is vibrating too quickly to interact with it.

00:49:34.000 If my consciousness tries to interact with this This book on this table in front of me, I couldn't pick it up, just as Radio A couldn't interact with Radio 2, because they share the same space, but they're not close enough on the dial to interact with each other.

00:49:47.000 So consciousness takes on an outer shell that is vibrating within the frequency range it wants to interact with.

00:49:54.000 We call it the human body.

00:49:55.000 Therefore, because I have that, I can pick that book up, because they're operating in the same frequency range, they can interact.

00:50:01.000 The whole basis of this conspiracy, Alex, is to manipulate us to identify who we are with the physical vehicle we are using to experience this reality because that sees everything in terms of apartness.

00:50:16.000 It sees everything in terms of limitation.

00:50:17.000 And once you're in what I call body consciousness, which basically filters reality through the five senses, you're into a state of powerlessness, of limitation, of I can't.

00:50:27.000 And crucially, you're in a state of seeing everything as a part, which is the perfect vehicle, the perfect landscape, to bring about divide and rule to different religions. 0.86

00:50:37.000 One minute break.

00:50:39.000 Let me talk to Ike! 0.94

00:50:42.000 David, back in one minute, and this is key, I'm going to skip the next break for everybody.

00:50:48.000 I may even have the station skip it.

00:50:50.000 We're going to be back in about one minute, and then back up, because I want to, before we get into expanding our horizons, expanding and realizing, not just with the spiritual or ethereal or the other wavelengths, But as a species, we live on through our children, and that's why we should stand up against evil, to pass better things on to them, you reap what you sow.

00:51:09.000 You know, there's also, you know, concrete things in this dimension, as you say.

00:51:13.000 But I want to briefly get into something you haven't covered in a while, the Satanism.

00:51:16.000 Why are they Because they say in the Black Magic, they do these horrible things to bring in the entities, to bring them set, to get power, dark power.

00:51:26.000 Why are the elites into blood and wars and pain and babies being hurt?

00:51:30.000 Why are they into such horrible things?

00:51:32.000 Oh yeah, I could get right into that.

00:51:34.000 Could we just cover one thing when we get back?

00:51:36.000 Because it goes on for a while.

00:51:37.000 I've just been talking about what is this reality?

00:51:39.000 What is this collective reality we're experiencing?

00:51:41.000 Yeah, let me tell you about the breaks.

00:51:42.000 This is a 5-minute segment, then a 3-minute break, then a 15-minute segment, and then a 5-minute segment, and then a 18-minute segment, and then the show's basically over.

00:51:51.000 The next 5-minute segment, I could do this easy.

00:51:54.000 Here we go.

00:51:54.000 We're going live.

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00:52:13.000 And we're not just on the internet, we're on AM and FM, shortwave satellite.

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00:52:18.000 Okay, David Icke.

00:52:19.000 Finishing up with the nature of reality and then expanding into not just the positive reality and love and light and goodness, but then we're going to get into the dark side and what makes up the enemy.

00:52:31.000 People need to understand that.

00:52:32.000 David Icke.

00:52:33.000 Well, this is the key, and this might, you know, shock a few people when they think about it, but this reality that we are experiencing as solid walls and an apparently solid world is just an illusion.

00:52:48.000 The only place it exists is in our heads, and it is what I call the holographic internet.

00:52:55.000 If I'm in this room now, and if I look around, there's the wireless internet in this room, but I can't see it.

00:53:03.000 But if I get a computer and I tune it into the wireless internet, suddenly I have a complete, worldwide, collective reality called the World Wide Web, which can be accessed anywhere in China, though firewalled off to a larger extent, Australia, South America, America, London, anywhere in the world, people can tap in through that computer into the same collective reality.

00:53:26.000 What they make of it is their unique spin, but it's the same reality.

00:53:31.000 If you said to people, tell me about the Internet, they'd say, well it's graphics and websites and colours on a screen.

00:53:38.000 Yes, it is.

00:53:40.000 But the only place the Internet exists in that form is on the screen.

00:53:43.000 Nowhere else.

00:53:43.000 Everywhere else it's electronic circuits, etc.

00:53:46.000 You say to people, tell me about television.

00:53:48.000 They say, well it's programs that are moving pictures on screen.

00:53:50.000 Yes, it is.

00:53:51.000 But the only place that television exists in that form is on the screen.

00:53:54.000 Everywhere else.

00:53:56.000 It is electronic circuits and frequency fields which the television decodes into those pictures.

00:54:01.000 What we do through this physical vehicle, what we call physical anyway, is we're decoding a reality on exactly the same principle, though fantastically more sophisticated, as the wireless internet.

00:54:13.000 And this is where we get our collective reality from.

00:54:15.000 Now this is vital to the conspiracy, Alex, because if you know this, and the people don't, Then you can manipulate the way they decode reality to fit what you want those people to do.

00:54:29.000 What is that stage hypnotist doing?

00:54:31.000 On a stage, he is manipulating the Stooges sense of reality.

00:54:35.000 In other words, the way they decode reality.

00:54:37.000 So, he'll give one, for instance, a potato, and he'll eat the potato, but he beforehand will have programmed the brain, the decoding system, to believe that it's an apple.

00:54:48.000 So as the message goes from the taste buds to the brain, as an electrical signal, the brain decodes that not as a potato, but as an apple.

00:54:57.000 If you try telling that guy he's not eating an apple, because he's tasting it.

00:55:01.000 I went to stage images shows when I was researching all this, and I watched it happen.

00:55:05.000 I watched people reel back with fantastic smells.

00:55:12.000 Well, it shows predictive programming, and they have those TV shows where they really do it, and they found in studies that the population is more suggestible, massively more suggestible than they were just 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago.

00:55:29.000 We're being programmed by TV to be more suggestible, and now everything's like, Times Square where they're taking over reality with blimps and with TV screens and where everything is becoming this Minority Report world.

00:55:46.000 And because they know that this information I'm talking about now, they understand this at the shadow people level, and they are programming, just like hypnotists, and they are hypnotists, they're programming the decoding system of the brain to decode reality, this wireless internet, this holographic cosmic internet, if you like, we call the physical world, to decode it in a way that suits them in terms of limitation in And that's what we are. 0.93

00:56:14.000 We're all these individual biomechanical machines marching around the surface of a giant planetoid covered by oceans and a thin ribbon of atmosphere who are all individually experiencing just a very narrow band of reality and then they're even trying to program that narrow band and use our social conditioning to keep us in very small parameters, David, correct?

00:56:37.000 They're trying to isolate us in the body consciousness vehicle, which has an ability to think for itself.

00:56:44.000 It's not just like an ordinary computer.

00:56:46.000 It's a biological computer.

00:56:48.000 It has the ability to think for itself and react to environmental changes.

00:56:51.000 That's what we call physical evolution.

00:56:53.000 David, we're going to skip this break.

00:56:54.000 It's too important.

00:56:55.000 Only on the InfoWars streams and PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:56:59.000 All right, David.

00:57:00.000 We're going to come back and finish up with what you're saying in three minutes, but I don't want to waste any of this time for the huge internet audience.

00:57:07.000 Why don't you continue along this line, but a separate substrata.

00:57:12.000 I mean, give us some microcosm example of the point you were just making.

00:57:18.000 Well, if you take the stage hypnotist situation, where he's programming into the mind, into the brain, he's actually programming the computer to read reality in a certain way.

00:57:31.000 And then you put it on the collective level.

00:57:34.000 That's what Wolf Blitzer is doing, Alex.

00:57:36.000 That's what people in colleges and schools and academics are doing.

00:57:41.000 Often, overwhelmingly, not because they know that's what they're doing, but these people are hypnotists.

00:57:46.000 They are products of the system.

00:57:48.000 You take the Delphi technique, one of many corporate techniques.

00:57:51.000 Now, if you watch Fox especially, they talk to you like you're a child.

00:57:56.000 And it's all done.

00:57:57.000 And happy, hi.

00:57:58.000 Oh, hi there.

00:57:59.000 You're watching us.

00:58:01.000 You know, before we wanted stern people that it was authoritative.

00:58:04.000 Now, it's like we're children.

00:58:06.000 Oh, it's incredible.

00:58:08.000 Crucially, the thing is, this is the whole bottom line of it, is that consciousness, that which we are eternally, experiences this reality through the vehicle.

00:58:17.000 And the vehicle itself has the ability to think up to a certain point because it's reacting to environmental influences all the time.

00:58:24.000 What they want to do is isolate our sense of reality into the vehicle and keep consciousness, the soul some people call it, out of the decision-making process, out of the awareness process, and therefore hold everyone in a state of limitation.

00:58:41.000 So you take consciousness out of it, expanded consciousness out of it.

00:58:46.000 You can turn people into basically, and it is a sophisticated, more advanced version of robots.

00:58:54.000 Androids.

00:58:56.000 Androids, and they react as you put input in.

00:58:59.000 You press enter, and out it comes.

00:59:01.000 And what's interesting, Alex, is as people expand their consciousness, and we have this awakening, when people, when they're pressing enter, they're more and more not getting what the computer would normally react with.

00:59:14.000 So the establishment...

00:59:16.000 ...not buying this now.

00:59:17.000 So the establishment has to shake things up, have calamities, terrorize the public, back into buying the official reality.

00:59:24.000 And the establishment says, if you buy into the official reality, if you do what we say, if you go along with the bailout, then everything will be okay.

00:59:32.000 But then it isn't okay, and they say, we'll go along with this again, and this time it'll be okay.

00:59:37.000 So I think in the final equation, they don't want us innately, or from our core, our instincts, from the ether, making decisions on our own.

00:59:45.000 They want us, with their manual, to only make decisions according to what they've prescribed.

00:59:51.000 To never think on our own, but only go off of what Madison Avenue and the map makers of the mind say and engineer.

00:59:57.000 I want your take on that as we go live right now.

01:00:02.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.

01:00:07.000 You want answers?

01:00:09.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:10.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:14.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:19.000 I asked David Eicher earlier to plug some of his books and videos, and he said, nope, I'm not gonna plug them, I don't care about that.

01:00:26.000 Well, he's an amazing individual, but he does have great books and videos.

01:00:29.000 Very enlightening.

01:00:31.000 They'll link a lot of people up, and you need to get them at DavidIke.com.

01:00:34.000 And I've gotten to that point, too.

01:00:35.000 That's why I say my videos are all free on the Internet.

01:00:38.000 They're in higher quality at PrisonPlanet.tv, or get them and make copies.

01:00:41.000 But at the same time, you need to support people like David Icke and myself, because then we can have more people, do more, take more action.

01:00:47.000 I'm running more of a news organization, so my needs are greater.

01:00:50.000 So that keeps me back on the straight and narrow of just trying to fund this operation.

01:00:54.000 David now is just traveling around the world, speaking to huge crowds of people and writing books and making videos every year, and we just really appreciate him.

01:01:02.000 David, I was asking you the question for the InfoWars Internet audience, now we're back on the main audience, about the map makers of the mind.

01:01:09.000 It's also dangerous if we unlock minds, or people unlock their own minds by us pointing out that they're locked, and then the New World Order has set up lots of spiritual traps, or lots of, you wouldn't even call it spiritual, coding traps is what I would call them, of false rabbit trails Which are meant to suck people into very dangerous cults, very dangerous Eastern organizations, all sorts of New World Order stuff.

01:01:34.000 Because the New World Order knows this, they're into it, so they've made it all very dark, and they capture people that break up through the control matrix, and they're swimming up, and the New World Order captures them in I'm on TV right now.

01:01:49.000 I'm showing people, you know, here's the mass-controlled consciousness that believes the Federal Reserve is federal, and the government loves you, and everything's fine, and melamine plastic's good for your kidneys, and poison's good for you.

01:01:59.000 You know, they're down here, but more and more are breaking through, swimming up, so the New World Order's created lots of false solutions, and lots of, I mean, it's very sophisticated, and then they infest the, you know, consciousness crowd, and knowing that people are going to escape, they're there to capture them.

01:02:16.000 How do people protect themselves from that?

01:02:19.000 Well, this is the bottom line of what they're doing, Alex.

01:02:24.000 You can call it soul, I call it infinite consciousness, expanding consciousness, whatever you like.

01:02:28.000 The idea is to keep that from imposing or infusing its level of wisdom and awareness and love and the understanding that everything is one through the physical vehicle, computer, into this reality.

01:02:45.000 It wants to isolate the computer and then into what I call body consciousness, which also includes the lower auric field, the electromagnetic field.

01:02:52.000 And then have us manifest evil through it, using us as a puppet.

01:02:57.000 Yeah, the thing is that once you disconnect from, if you like, higher levels of awareness, and you become encased in body consciousness, You're looking outside of yourself for information to get a fix on life, yourself, the nature of reality.

01:03:12.000 And what comes back, what you learn at school, what you learn through the media, what you learn from bankers and politicians and all the rest of it, in other words, what they're doing is isolating the computer from our consciousness, what you would call soul, and then programming the computer with the reality that suits the agenda.

01:03:29.000 Now, as people awaken, there are, what I've called in my books, endless cul-de-sacs.

01:03:35.000 Which are being set up, little mousetraps, to take people away from the full magnitude of expressing the full power and awareness of who they are, into things like the New Age, and into other things, where they can be, if you like, yeah, put in a cul-de-sac.

01:03:52.000 I mean, I've called the New Age, in my books, the last cul-de-sac before the goldmine, because it takes people away from understanding that they are the power, and again, it hands power to other people, some guru or some New Age guy or whatever, just as the religions in all their forms are about the people handing their power and their belief systems over to others.

01:04:14.000 We are consciousness.

01:04:15.000 We are infinite consciousness.

01:04:16.000 We're all expressions of the same consciousness. 0.99

01:04:18.000 That's why the fighting between us is so idiotic and stupid and ridiculous, but that's what happens when you lose that understanding of unity and you see everything in apartness because you're caught in the body computer. 0.97

01:04:29.000 So what we need to do is to move our point of observation of the world and ourselves from I am Ethel Smith in the computer, I am the computer, to I am infinite consciousness having an experience through this computer in this tiny frequency range we call the physical world. 0.99

01:04:44.000 And everyone else whose eyes I look into are the same consciousness as me having a different experience.

01:04:50.000 Yeah, back into myself.

01:04:51.000 And that's the incredible thing is that just in a meat and potatoes way, let's say there is no consciousness about this, which we know is a lie.

01:05:00.000 but through genetic consciousness.

01:05:03.000 I understand that I am all those that came before me, and I am passing on through my children everybody that came before me and who I was.

01:05:12.000 And I realize I'm going to love my children's grandchildren, who I'll never meet, or their great-grandchildren, as much as I love my children or I love myself, in fact, more so.

01:05:22.000 And so why would I want to commit a crime against the genetic code?

01:05:25.000 Why would I want to commit a crime against humanity when I'm related to all these people, whether they be black or white, Chinese or German? 1.00

01:05:33.000 And I realized that, and then I asked myself, how, why does the New World Order revel?

01:05:38.000 They know the Mercury's damaging the genetic code.

01:05:40.000 They know the GMO is attacking and actually mutating the human species.

01:05:44.000 They know they're attacking the Earth.

01:05:45.000 And then they give us fake environmentalism when we rebel against that, and then use it to control us more.

01:05:50.000 They know they are killing things.

01:05:52.000 Now, we've talked about the positive side, the enemy.

01:05:56.000 I understand this system, but the controllers, the shadow behind the throne, The power behind the throne, they have made the conscious decision to revel in darkness and destruction.

01:06:08.000 Why?

01:06:09.000 Well, let's just go one point, which kind of relates to this, but relates to what you just said.

01:06:14.000 Take consciousness to be the most brilliant computer programmer in the world.

01:06:20.000 And he's sitting at his desk in front of a computer, symbolic of the body, shall we say, and he's trying to get his genius through that computer into the reality on the screen, this world.

01:06:32.000 If that computer is destabilized, if it's not working, if it's got viruses, if it's not decoding properly, if it's got various things wrong with it, if it's electrically imbalanced and its decoding system is distorted, I don't care if that guy in that chair, symbolic of our if it's electrically imbalanced and its decoding system is distorted, I don't care if that guy in that chair, symbolic of our true He's not going to pass that genius through that computer.

01:06:58.000 So this conspiracy, Alex, is about attacking the vehicle, the decoding system, to make sure that it is inefficient and imbalanced and doesn't operate to the true efficiency and magnitude that it possibly could.

01:07:14.000 I've got to add something.

01:07:15.000 It's so incredible what you're saying.

01:07:17.000 That's the true reason for the microchip, Alex.

01:07:20.000 In a computer, the central processing unit, the CPU, that filters all the information traffic, is a microchip.

01:07:28.000 The reason they're talking now about having human computers... It's an electrochemical computer.

01:07:35.000 Yeah, because they're talking now about connecting the human brain to a computer and you can work the computer through your thoughts, it's because they're connecting two computers.

01:07:45.000 One more sophisticated by stunning margin than the other, but that's what they're doing.

01:07:50.000 So the idea is to attack the vehicle, the computer, on every level they can.

01:07:55.000 That includes programming it through words and repetition of lies, like Bin Laden was behind 9-11 and all this stuff.

01:08:03.000 And eventually repetition is a wonderful mind manipulation technique and programming technique.

01:08:09.000 And the computer then starts reading reality to fit the programming.

01:08:12.000 Once you introduce consciousness, those programs start to break down.

01:08:16.000 And that's when people start to wake up.

01:08:18.000 No, I was just going to agree with you.

01:08:21.000 And that's why when you study eugenics, publicly they say it's about making the race better and getting rid of the bad. 0.99

01:08:27.000 But real eugenics at the Ph.D. level, they say, no, we've got to mutate and dumb down the mass of people.

01:08:33.000 So we in the future, this is 100 years ago, all the top eugenicists, and we put it in the film Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, all the proof. 0.86

01:08:40.000 There's a bibliography of it, whatistheendgame.com.

01:08:43.000 They say we really want to wreck humanity so we can greedily control it for ourselves because they'd rather rule in hell than serve in heaven.

01:08:52.000 Exactly.

01:08:54.000 And so, when you look at the body computer on one level, it is an electro-chemical organism.

01:09:01.000 What are they bombarding us, not least our kids, with?

01:09:06.000 Chemical cocktails called soft drinks and food.

01:09:11.000 Electromagnetic microwave attacks and pollution which we're living in.

01:09:17.000 And if you want to affect every fish in one go, what do you do?

01:09:22.000 You affect the sea.

01:09:23.000 Then you've done it.

01:09:23.000 And they're affecting this energy field that we're living in, in the lower levels around the Earth, which we can operate in as humans in this world.

01:09:33.000 And they are infiltrating it with all this electromagnetic pollution, which is designed to disrupt the ability of the computer to access higher consciousness.

01:09:45.000 Let me throw a point out.

01:09:46.000 Electrochemically destabilized.

01:09:47.000 That's what it's all about.

01:09:48.000 Let me throw a point out.

01:09:49.000 When you go out to southern Utah and Monument Valley, And there's nobody around.

01:09:53.000 You can be in your tent.

01:09:54.000 It's not just the beautiful vistas that raise the soul, as people say, or make the soul sore.

01:10:02.000 It is that you are not around all the electrochemical pollution.

01:10:08.000 You are outside of that, and you're also outside the pollution.

01:10:11.000 And they've proven this.

01:10:12.000 There's like wavelengths coming off the mind.

01:10:14.000 They broadcast.

01:10:15.000 Yep.

01:10:15.000 all the program brains that are broadcasting the evil, you're also away from those, and it's the incredible piece of being out in the middle of nowhere.

01:10:23.000 Yep.

01:10:25.000 You know, the computer talks, consciousness knows.

01:10:28.000 That's why when you go into the silence and you quiet your mind, you can get incredible insights that you can't when the mind chatter is going.

01:10:36.000 Because the computer mind chatter never really stops.

01:10:39.000 Everyone listening to this show will understand what I mean.

01:10:41.000 Where the mind never shuts down.

01:10:42.000 It's always talking.

01:10:43.000 It's always trying to work things out.

01:10:44.000 It's always trying to create dramas or reacting to dramas and all the rest of it.

01:10:48.000 then when you go into a state, some people call it meditation.

01:10:50.000 I don't meditate.

01:10:51.000 I daydream, which I guess is a form of meditation, but I don't sit cross-legged, not least because I've got arthritis and I can't, but I don't sit cross-legged and meditate, although good luck to those who do.

01:10:59.000 But I let consciousness in by shutting the chatter down.

01:11:03.000 And what's happening, you remember that mass mind control manual that came to light, silent weapons for a quiet war. - Colonel Alexander.

01:11:14.000 Yeah, there was a line in that which encapsulates what we're saying here.

01:11:17.000 It said, keep them busy, busy, busy back on the farm with their other animals.

01:11:21.000 They're trying to keep our minds occupied constantly because the mind chatter is occupied by that level of entertainment that we get on the television or what passes for it, the news, the televisions they're on, off the radios.

01:11:35.000 On all the time, Mind Chatter, Mind Chatter, and that holds us in body consciousness reality, because it's dealing with words, which is a body consciousness decoding.

01:11:44.000 Okay, David, I want to ask you advice about myself personally, because I really respect you in this area, in the behind-the-scenes, internet-only discussion at PrisonPlanet.tv and the InfoWars exclusive streams right now.

01:11:55.000 For everybody else, we'll be right back.

01:11:58.000 David, every day I talk about this, or I think about this, and every week I talk about it on air.

01:12:05.000 At 1 a.m.

01:12:06.000 laying in bed or sitting on the couch at 10 o'clock at night when my wife and children are asleep, I have just amazing insights.

01:12:14.000 I write it down on paper.

01:12:15.000 Huge understandings about the New World Order, predictions that then come true, understanding thousands of pieces of data that my subconscious, whatever you want to call it, is able to analyze.

01:12:25.000 And then when I get on air, I can never articulate it with any of the depth.

01:12:29.000 I mean, I do it to a great extent, but nothing like the true depth of that quiet time understanding and that tuning into everything.

01:12:38.000 And when I tune in to the huge Well, that's interesting because I know exactly what you mean.

01:12:42.000 New World Order killing me.

01:12:43.000 I'm not worried about what's going to come and what's going to happen.

01:12:46.000 But then as soon as I shift back into battle mode, then it seems like I'm more focused, but I lose a lot of my, well, frankly, prescience.

01:12:55.000 Well, that's interesting because I know exactly what you mean.

01:13:01.000 What I've been doing with myself over the last months and years is not going into battle mode because that brings you into body consciousness.

01:13:11.000 It doesn't mean you can't be just as passionate and just as absolutely determined to make a difference.

01:13:20.000 But when you go into battle mode, the body consciousness kicks in.

01:13:24.000 And body consciousness...

01:13:25.000 It has the ability to think for itself, but it deals in words, and we have simply, because this understanding of who we are, Alex, has been lost for so long, we've not developed the language to describe what we know as a knowing on a higher consciousness level as It's a knowing!

01:13:44.000 And it's a knowing because you're dealing with consciousness that knows.

01:13:48.000 The reason that you hear silence when you go into higher consciousness is because higher consciousness knows.

01:13:54.000 It doesn't have to work it out through constant chatter.

01:13:57.000 I wonder if it's this, I wonder if it's that.

01:13:59.000 It knows.

01:14:00.000 And then when you come back into body consciousness, that's what the world does.

01:14:03.000 Absolutely.

01:14:04.000 But from a genetic expression, they now know that it's not what you call reincarnation.

01:14:11.000 It is all those millions of people that came before you, all that genetic information passed on.

01:14:15.000 We really are using 100% of the brain, not 10% like the scientists say.

01:14:20.000 It's just that we normally are only consciously using 10%.

01:14:22.000 There is so much more.

01:14:24.000 It is a species knowledge and a species memory that wants to go to the stars.

01:14:30.000 I tell you what they've done, and there's no better symbol of what they've done to the human computer than China. 1.00

01:14:36.000 If you go on the Internet in China, there's vast amounts of the Internet you cannot access because it's firewalled off.

01:14:42.000 That's what they've done.

01:14:43.000 And as we open the firewalls, as consciousness intervenes, then we start to see things.

01:14:48.000 You're not talking about the Internet for folks that just tuned in.

01:14:51.000 You're saying the consciousness is like a Chinese internet where 90% of it is walled off, curtailed, surveilled.

01:14:58.000 And people through the panoptagon self-surveil and restrict themselves in China.

01:15:03.000 Yeah, what I'm saying is that the body computer, even though it's just a vehicle, it's a fantastic vehicle and it has potentially the ability to decode far more than it does.

01:15:15.000 But what they've done, and I think there's been genetic intervention through the thousands of years and many other things, They have firewalled off, and this is an interesting point, given what we've been talking about.

01:15:28.000 What does a hypnotist do?

01:15:29.000 I've seen a hypnotist say to someone, OK, I'm going to ask you your name, and you're not going to be able to know it.

01:15:35.000 You're not going to be able to know your name.

01:15:37.000 And he says the key word, and he asks them their name.

01:15:40.000 They can't remember their name.

01:15:42.000 Because he's firewalled off that ability to decode their name.

01:15:47.000 So when you think what they're doing in China with the, if you like, the World Wide Web Internet, where Chinese people can't access vast chunks of it because they don't want, the Chinese authorities don't want the people to see what exists there in terms of information, the elite, the shadow people that understand this reality, they have done the same. 0.97

01:16:08.000 They have firewalled off the human computer system through the various techniques they use, so we don't decode vast amounts of reality, even within this reality.

01:16:18.000 David, we're back.

01:16:19.000 We're back live.

01:16:20.000 Here we go.

01:16:23.000 Alright.

01:16:24.000 The time's almost up with David Icke.

01:16:26.000 I might be able to twist his arm for ten minutes more into overdrive today, but I doubt it.

01:16:30.000 There's so much he wants to talk about, I want to know about why the elite...

01:16:35.000 People who are aware of all of this like to get into the darkness and why they revel in that and some of the rituals they do.

01:16:40.000 I mean now Macy's has come out with 666 Knights of Hell Bohemian Grove wear.

01:16:46.000 It says Bohemian Grove on it.

01:16:48.000 It's using official Bohemian Grove logos.

01:16:50.000 Macy's nationwide.

01:16:51.000 It's up on InfoWars.com.

01:16:53.000 I want to get into that and then anything else you want to cover, David, and then take a few phone calls at 1-800-259-9231.

01:17:01.000 But everything you say makes all these other ideas and thoughts I've already had, but at a deeper level, start exploding.

01:17:07.000 That's why I'm jumping in.

01:17:08.000 But I want you to have a chance to really run.

01:17:10.000 So I'm just going to literally turn my mic off and step back.

01:17:14.000 We're going to skip this next break for the Internet.

01:17:16.000 Everybody else will be right back.

01:17:17.000 And just, you've got the floor.

01:17:19.000 Run with it.

01:17:20.000 Well, first of all, in terms of where we're going with this, we need to get a blank sheet of paper.

01:17:29.000 And I'm not talking as some guru who's on a mountain and telling you how to do it.

01:17:37.000 I'm telling you what happened to me over the last 20 years.

01:17:41.000 And when you, and it's a simple thing, Alex, but my goodness me, is it powerful in how it pans out and plays out in changes in your life and everything.

01:17:51.000 Once you look in the mirror and you, I don't know.

01:17:56.000 Identify what you are looking at with the vehicle that's allowing you to experience this frequency range we call the world, and you move your sense of identity to I am infinite consciousness.

01:18:08.000 I am all that is, has been, and ever will be.

01:18:11.000 Not that time exists outside of this reality.

01:18:14.000 It's another figment of our manipulated imagination and programming.

01:18:20.000 Once you move your sense of identity out to that level of self, everything changes.

01:18:26.000 I mean, you know, fearful of what some government's gonna do, fearful of the consequences of taking action in pursuit of freedom.

01:18:36.000 I mean, you know, that level of consciousness, which is a level of love, which is beyond our comprehension, It's not, it's not, I love you darling, saw you down the disco.

01:18:47.000 That level of love is an attraction.

01:18:49.000 Actually it can be manipulated chemically if you stimulate certain chemicals in the brain.

01:18:54.000 That's attraction.

01:18:55.000 I was in a half kind of wake state waking up the other day and going around my head was this statement.

01:19:02.000 Love is not what you are in, I'm in love with you.

01:19:06.000 Love is what you are.

01:19:08.000 And at that level, that level of love, the true definition of love, not attraction, but love for all, love for self, it has no fear.

01:19:18.000 It only does not what it believes to be right, it does what it knows to be right.

01:19:24.000 And it chooses freedom, and freedom and love do not do consequences.

01:19:29.000 There's no mental gymnastics, oh, I want freedom, but what are the consequences for me of going down there?

01:19:35.000 Freedom doesn't do consequences.

01:19:37.000 Love doesn't do consequences.

01:19:38.000 It does what it believes to be right.

01:19:40.000 And I tell you what, when you get to this level of consciousness, Alex, something that would change this world overnight because of all that would come from it, if people started making decisions not based on what is right for me in the circumstances before me, and that turns out often not to be right for you anyway, but what is right End of story in the circumstances that I face.

01:20:05.000 What is right?

01:20:06.000 What is just?

01:20:07.000 What is fair?

01:20:09.000 What do I need to do to pursue that version of what is right?

01:20:13.000 And if we did that, there'd be no hunger, there'd be no conflict, there'd be no child abuse, there'd be no environmental abuse, there'd be none of this stuff.

01:20:21.000 We'd be in a completely different level of consciousness, and therefore we'd be in a different, completely different level of experiences of this world.

01:20:29.000 As Albert Einstein said, You cannot solve problems with the same level of consciousness that created them.

01:20:37.000 And because we've got caught in body consciousness, and not the high soul consciousness, if you like, that we really are, therefore, we bring a political party in with a certain level of consciousness, and we replace it with another with the same level of consciousness.

01:20:52.000 We interact with the world with the same level of consciousness, and then we wonder why the world never changes for the better, because the same level of consciousness But he's creating the problems, then returns to create more problems.

01:21:05.000 We have to move into an expanded level of awareness of who we are, the nature of reality, the illusory nature of reality that we live in, and then we can have a paradise here.

01:21:16.000 Because illusions only control you when you think they're real, and that's the key to this conspiracy.

01:21:21.000 It's been persuading people that this illusion that we're interacting with, and we can have great fun and joy with, He's actually real, and once you buy that one, you're in body consciousness, and you're in the slammer.

01:21:36.000 And we're at a time now with this awakening when we can open the door and transform this world.

01:21:43.000 Got a break.

01:21:44.000 Stay there, David Icke.

01:21:45.000 I'll talk to you during the break.

01:21:46.000 David, I don't want to turn this into a massive extravaganza.

01:21:53.000 No, but I tell you, you want to go into the dark stuff, I'll tell you about that.

01:21:56.000 Well, the thing is, I know that you've got a lot of things to do, but I would love, and I promise you we would end it then and also give you a break later, what if we did 20 minutes into the next hour

01:22:10.000 The show normally ends in 30, but what if we did another 40-50 minutes total, 15-20 minutes into the next hour, because then there'd be no breaks, and it would be internet only, but still massive, so that we would have plenty of time to really let you flesh out your ideas, and then take some phone calls and talk about solutions.

01:22:29.000 Or do you want to end this in T-minus 30 minutes?

01:22:32.000 I'd love to do it, Alex, but I've got to be in Nevada City in the time it takes from uh one o'clock to get there that's my problem what time do you have to be in nevada city um it i've got to be in nevada city by uh just before two o'clock i'm meeting a guy funnily enough um who is he's a doctor that who has understood that the body's a hologram and um there's great information waiting for me there well i hope you'll come back soon and tell us about Oh yeah, no problem.

01:23:01.000 Well then, we'll talk a little bit more and then jam in some phone calls before you leave us and I appreciate you giving us the two hours.

01:23:09.000 No problem.

01:23:10.000 If you want to get into the dark stuff and the ritual, I talk about that because it so relates to what we talk about.

01:23:14.000 Well, I wanted to talk about the...

01:23:18.000 You know, the different levels of consciousness, because you talk about what doing what is right.

01:23:23.000 When I'm calm, when I'm centered, again, I'm not worried about them killing me.

01:23:28.000 I realize fighting them and standing up to them, and my instinct, or my guts, my spirit tells me, even let them kill me, because, you know, that will only expose them greater, and that... But then, I hear a beeping going on.

01:23:48.000 John, do you know what's going on there?

01:23:50.000 I don't hear anything.

01:23:52.000 Okay, it just went away.

01:23:54.000 We got it here on the network side.

01:23:55.000 David, you still there?

01:23:56.000 Yes, Mike.

01:23:58.000 But then when I get back into battle mode, the daily mode, which is what I have to shift into to be able to operate, I'm not as worried.

01:24:05.000 I mean, I'm still a little bit worried about it.

01:24:10.000 I'm just not completely at peace.

01:24:11.000 And then you talk about, you know, consciousness.

01:24:14.000 The problem is, the corrupt elite system is like a cancer.

01:24:20.000 Exactly.

01:24:21.000 And so no matter how many of us are good and sweet and loving and do the right thing, which I try to do every day, we still have to stamp out and stand up against corrupt people in our lives, or they will chew us to pieces.

01:24:32.000 So I want you to explain... Yeah, yeah.

01:24:34.000 Or I'm not saying lie down and say, walk all over me.

01:24:37.000 I'm saying the exact opposite.

01:24:39.000 But just don't stand up against them in a hateful way, do it from a point of love, and I'm sorry, I have to do this.

01:24:47.000 Yep, well yeah, or even more than that, I am doing this, okay?

01:24:51.000 End of story.

01:24:52.000 And what getting to those higher states of consciousness does, it takes the fear out of it, it takes the consequences out of it, and you just do it.

01:25:00.000 They were going back to the full audience, here we go.

01:25:05.000 David Icke is our guest.

01:25:06.000 We've got about 27 minutes left with him today.

01:25:10.000 I think I'm going to go ahead and, myself, David can't stay with us, but I'm going to go into overdrive at Infowars.com for 20 minutes.

01:25:17.000 You good to do that, Paul?

01:25:20.000 Because I want to cover what's happening with the markets after David leaves us.

01:25:24.000 But I do want to take some time out and take some cold before the show ends as well.

01:25:27.000 But, David, during the break when we were still talking for the internet audience on PrisonPlanet.tv, We were discussing, you know, I was saying, well, the elite are like a cancer, though.

01:25:40.000 They understand this.

01:25:41.000 They've decided to be dark and evil and to shudder the souls of humanity because it makes them more easily manageable, and they revel in darkness.

01:25:51.000 And I can't imagine having the knowledge of the wonders of being good and being loving and doing all that, and then making the conscious decision to be dark and wicked.

01:26:00.000 So why are they doing that?

01:26:02.000 And as good guys, how do we stand up against them?

01:26:06.000 Well, they are locked into such a depth of their own body consciousness that's why, and there's other connections to that, but they're so locked into that level of reality that that's why they're so good at manipulating it.

01:26:26.000 They're almost like soulless beings who have lost such contact with these higher levels of awareness that basically, if you look at the way they operate, they operate through intellect.

01:26:40.000 They are very, very clever, but they have absolutely no wisdom, and cleverness without wisdom is the most destructive force on earth.

01:26:48.000 So they're coming from an intellectual level, which is a body consciousness level, because the intellect thinks and works things out.

01:26:56.000 It's not that higher knowing that we've talked about, and they're so stuck in it that they have lost touch with a key self-balancing mechanism, which is empathy.

01:27:08.000 They have no empathy.

01:27:10.000 And because they have no empathy, they have no emotional consequences for what they do to people.

01:27:15.000 So 3,000 people on 9-11, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dead and maimed civilians in Iraq.

01:27:21.000 We couldn't do that because we have empathy.

01:27:25.000 We have this emotional feeling for the consequences for others of our actions.

01:27:30.000 When you don't have them, there are no limits.

01:27:32.000 And that's why they act like they do.

01:27:33.000 And it's why I've been saying for years, if you see what they would do on the basis of what you would do, then you've lost the plot because they're not the same because of what I've been talking about.

01:27:44.000 I mean, I know I've had lots of ridicule over the years.

01:27:44.000 And they are.

01:27:48.000 I've had lots of ridicule over many things.

01:27:49.000 I don't care.

01:27:50.000 what is what it is, but you know, these people interact on a human level with entities that operate just outside of visible light.

01:28:01.000 You know, as I said right at the start of this chat today, I'm sitting here in California and all the television and radio stations broadcast in California are sharing the same space that I'm sharing.

01:28:13.000 They're not on top of each other like a chest of drawers, they're sharing the same space because they're vibrating at different speeds.

01:28:18.000 Now when you get two stations that are very close to each other, they're close enough for interference.

01:28:25.000 Interference symbolic of interaction. 0.98

01:28:28.000 And these entities that these people worship in their stupid, sick and horrific rituals are to interact with these entities that operate just outside of visible light, just outside of human sight. 0.98

01:28:43.000 And what these entities do is they feed off low vibrational human energy, which is fear, stress, all these different expressions of low vibrational energy. 0.99

01:28:53.000 And this, Alex, is where the age-old term of sacrificing young virgins to the gods comes from.

01:29:00.000 What are young virgins symbolic of in that term?

01:29:04.000 Prepubescent children.

01:29:06.000 I've understood this by talking to people who've taken part in these things overwhelmingly against their will.

01:29:12.000 What these entities do is they are there at the ritual and they put these children and other people too through horrific rituals and they build them up to a state of absolute terror.

01:29:26.000 And this is releasing this really low vibrational energy of terror, and it also puts an adrenaline in the bloodstream, which the human elite drink like a nectar.

01:29:42.000 So when they do the sacrifice, the entity or entities that they're doing the ritual for, which have various names in different parts of the world, they absorb this energy like an energetic sustenance to them, while the human level of it, they drink the blood which has this adrenaline in.

01:30:02.000 And this is one reason, there are many other reasons, why they do these rituals.

01:30:08.000 And so a mass creation of this energy, a mass version of this ritual we call wars.

01:30:18.000 We call credit crunches and banking collapses because of all the stress and fear energy that is released by the people in the face of these things.

01:30:27.000 So on one level, it's not the only reason they do it, but on one level they're manipulating these fearful, stress-creating, terror-creating events to actually elicit an energy, low vibrational energy from the people.

01:30:43.000 So it's not just that they're evil and enjoy it.

01:30:46.000 It is a psychic war, and they're polluting everything with gloom and doom.

01:30:50.000 Yeah, they're bringing everything...

01:30:52.000 As I said earlier, they are massively locked into low, low, low vibrational consciousness.

01:30:59.000 There is almost no light there at all, and that's why they act like they do.

01:31:04.000 We've had this age-old theme, Alex, through the centuries and thousands of years, right across the world in ancient accounts, about the soulless ones.

01:31:14.000 That's what we're talking about.

01:31:15.000 And, you know, Christians would talk about demonic entities. 0.95

01:31:19.000 And the Muslims would talk about the jinns and stuff. 0.99

01:31:22.000 These are all different names for the same thing we're talking about here.

01:31:25.000 Well, I've talked to top psychologists who study the serial killers, and they describe it as if they're dead.

01:31:31.000 They have no emotion, nothing in life, but there's like a burning light.

01:31:35.000 They only feel alive while they're torturing a child, while they're doing something particularly horrible.

01:31:42.000 And so they become total slaves to it.

01:31:44.000 Yeah, and they're also slaves to something else.

01:31:46.000 They're slaves to these entities.

01:31:48.000 Now, this is another important thing to start connecting some dots here.

01:31:53.000 Why is this human elite obsessed with interbreeding?

01:31:58.000 Because if, with each other, and not interbreeding outside of itself, because if you really break it down to the level that we're talking about today, Alex, Well, the Egyptians said they were gods, and they had to keep that bloodline in the family.

01:32:13.000 Yeah, but what's the obsession with bloodline?

01:32:15.000 It is this.

01:32:16.000 Keepin' the money together.

01:32:17.000 When you procreate, you are, in effect, downloading two hard drives, called DNA and whatever, onto one hard drive, which we call the new child body computer.

01:32:30.000 The child is consciousness.

01:32:32.000 The child's body is a computer, like everyone else.

01:32:34.000 Now, that means that these bloodlines, when they interbreed, what they're holding is, in effect, a software program, a certain vibrational field, which is the fusion of the two aspects of the same genetic line, i.e., the same aristocracy or royal family, whatever.

01:32:55.000 Now, this means that the elite bloodlines in physical form within this reality, they are vibrating to a particular frequency, which, because it's a hybrid, they are vibrating to a particular frequency, which, because it's a hybrid, has a vibrational sympathy with these entities operating just outside of visible light, The elite bloodlines in physical form within this reality, they are vibrating to a particular frequency, which, because it's a hybrid, has a vibrational sympathy with these entities operating just outside of visible light, has a vibrational sympathy with these entities operating just outside of visible

01:33:22.000 And therefore, that vibrational connection allows these particular bloodlines to be possessed.

01:33:31.000 Another ancient theme right up to the present day by these entities much more powerfully and efficiently in terms of controlling their mental and emotional processes than do they can with the rest of the population.

01:33:44.000 And so this is the key, Alex.

01:33:46.000 You've got a human bloodline, which is a hybrid bloodline with a certain type of DNA, which they interbreed incessantly and have over the centuries to hold.

01:33:55.000 This allows a vibrational connection with these entities, which allows the possession of these human forms by these non-human entities.

01:34:03.000 And then you've got the secret society network, which manipulates these human elite bloodlines that we talk constantly about into the positions of power, and indeed their gophers into the positions of power.

01:34:15.000 And what we're actually doing is putting, or they're doing, is putting these entities into those positions of power.

01:34:23.000 But because we look at them with our five-cent sight, we decode only the human level.

01:34:29.000 So that's all we see.

01:34:30.000 But if you could tease out your visual acuity and see a wider range of frequencies as you look at these people, you would see anything but a human entity overshadowing it.

01:34:41.000 This is how they've done it.

01:34:42.000 And this is what these bloodlines are about.

01:34:45.000 Having vibrational compatibility with these entities which they worship, these gods that they worship. - Okay.

01:34:53.000 Well, and I know the elite believes that.

01:34:55.000 When I was at Bohemian Girl, people would say, oh, it's just a play.

01:34:58.000 I was there with a thousand plus members watching the ritual.

01:35:01.000 They were grinding their teeth.

01:35:02.000 They were in religious rapture.

01:35:04.000 They did some other ritual over behind the trees that was the real ritual, and they did the mock human sacrifice of the child, and that's in their own literature.

01:35:12.000 Now Macy's Uh, has come out with all of this Bohemian Grove, the Knights of the Illuminati, 666, you know, the, uh, you know, the Hell Group.

01:35:24.000 I mean, now they're really throwing it in our face.

01:35:26.000 And we always know that through the popular fashions, they telegraph what's coming in the future.

01:35:32.000 Why are we seeing all the skulls and death and now Illuminati clothing?

01:35:36.000 Yeah, because, you know, they understand, because they are so entrapped in computer-level reality, they understand this stadium.

01:35:46.000 And so what they're doing is trying to pull all the time, as we talked about in this chat today, they're trying to pull humanity into a sense of reality that operates in the same stadium.

01:35:58.000 And that's what the Roman Colosseums are all about, the blood and death. 1.00

01:36:01.000 Yeah, I'll tell you what, Alex, they are absolutely terrified.

01:36:07.000 of this awakening, which they knew was coming, and they know is now here.

01:36:13.000 They're terrified of it, and they're desperately pushing this agenda forward, not least the microchip.

01:36:19.000 The real idea of the microchip, yes, it's for electronic tagging, and the computer knows where everyone is, yes.

01:36:26.000 But I've been given chapter and verse by a CIA scientist about this, many years ago now, ten years ago now, in fact, 1997-98.

01:36:33.000 The idea is to hijack the body computer through the the microchip so they can externally manipulate us vibrationally physically mentally and emotionally from a distance either en masse or isolating us as individuals and the reason that they there's many reasons for the same thing but a major major reason for wanting a world dna database is because we all vibrate

01:36:56.000 although we vibrate within certain frequency range we always all vibrate on our own unique uh... signal as well and if you know someone's dna through the technology they have they can work out that unique signal and target it that this is the story it's always all the whole conspiracy kind of comes down to in the end and everything else is playing it out well we knew that from the army plan that was written up in the eighties declassified in two thousand in uh...

01:37:23.000 in february we know in there the army says That through fads, through security, through prisoners, through Alzheimer's patients, and through having law enforcement be forced to take chips, they could then force the public to do it.

01:37:37.000 And now if you want to be a fighter pilot, you're going to have to have it.

01:37:40.000 That's openly mainstream news.

01:37:42.000 They are preparing the public that if you want to have a job, you're going to have to have basically this little wire port into your brain.

01:37:49.000 And the Army says that by 2025, All of us will be... This is what they say.

01:37:55.000 This is where the movie, The Matrix, came from.

01:38:00.000 From the DARPA reports.

01:38:01.000 This is in my book, Descent into Tyranny.

01:38:04.000 They say that they're going to put us all in tanks to be in the hive mind.

01:38:09.000 So, that movie is the plan.

01:38:13.000 Well, the hive mind is something I've been writing about for a long, long time, and you can only put people, because, you know, when I talk about, you know, infinite consciousness, I'm not talking about everyone being a clone and acting the same.

01:38:25.000 Infinite consciousness is infinite possibilities.

01:38:28.000 Yeah, tied into the bigger picture, not into the narrow band.

01:38:32.000 But David, my point is, you're not just saying this, the official army prospectus says this is the plan for full spectrum dominance because there'll be no more war, we'll all be safe if we're in these tanks.

01:38:46.000 You can't make stuff up that weirder than last year, the British 10-year prospectus talked about having a neutron bomb.

01:38:54.000 Us, if we resist them, having to kill masses of us, flash mobs.

01:38:59.000 I mean, people think David Icke is weird or off the charts.

01:39:03.000 If you read what DARPA and the Pentagon and their head futurist, Mr. Marshall, are saying, it's all even stranger than David Icke.

01:39:10.000 Oh yeah, I mean, you know, the rabbit hole goes much deeper than any of us have got yet.

01:39:16.000 The thing is, Alex, as you were saying, and I was pointing out, infinite consciousness is all possibility.

01:39:23.000 So expressing your uniqueness, your maverick, your unique spin on life, is actually expressing the infinite consciousness that you are.

01:39:31.000 And that changes the controlled paradigm, so we're taking it over cell by cell.

01:39:35.000 So when you talk, as you just have, about those documents and how the tanks and everyone becoming a hive mind, They can only create a hive.

01:39:35.000 Exactly.

01:39:43.000 They can't get to consciousness, you see.

01:39:45.000 It's vibrating too quickly.

01:39:46.000 It's too powerful for them, anyway.

01:39:47.000 Their arena is the body-computer decoding system.

01:39:52.000 And they can only put us in a hive mind by locking us in that level of reality.

01:39:59.000 Now, they've done it for vast numbers of people, but this awakening is literally breaking the spell.

01:40:05.000 It's a massive revolution.

01:40:06.000 Yes, it is.

01:40:07.000 And people should not, for a second, Underestimate the incredible, extraordinarily amazing magnitude of what's going on.

01:40:18.000 Yes, we need to know what the manipulation of the conspiracy is doing, so we're streetwise to it, and there are enormous numbers of people who still don't realize they're slaves, who need that information to realize that they are, then they can do something about it.

01:40:29.000 David, we've got to go to calls.

01:40:30.000 We've got to go to calls.

01:40:31.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the bottom line is this.

01:40:34.000 Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, DavidIke.com.

01:40:38.000 Check it out and then put it into action.

01:40:40.000 It doesn't mean you'll be a master of this overnight.

01:40:42.000 Just start questioning the system.

01:40:44.000 Stop watching TV.

01:40:45.000 Love your family.

01:40:46.000 Eat healthy.

01:40:47.000 Go out and warm people.

01:40:48.000 Expose the bankers.

01:40:49.000 And that leads you on the path to expanding your horizons.

01:40:53.000 David Ike, what an amazing individual.

01:40:54.000 David, let's take calls.

01:40:55.000 We're going to skip this next break as well for the Internet listeners.

01:40:59.000 You're on the air, go ahead.

01:41:02.000 Is this me?

01:41:03.000 Yes, sir.

01:41:04.000 Okay, Michael, yeah.

01:41:05.000 Hey, thanks, man.

01:41:07.000 You both express yourself so eloquently.

01:41:08.000 I've been wanting to talk with both of y'all for a while.

01:41:11.000 And, you know, talking about the dynamics of these vibrational frequencies, you've covered it pretty good.

01:41:19.000 What I think we have coming toward us, those that are truth-rising, such as the both of you and your listening audience, is that we're approaching a point of separation.

01:41:29.000 In our vibration frequencies.

01:41:30.000 They've kept, by keeping us in fear, they've brought us down to their low life vibration that you've expressed so eloquently.

01:41:38.000 And by us raising our vibration frequency, by getting above their fear that they're trying to perpetrate us and keep us beat down, we will be able to raise our vibration frequency to a point that they won't be able to exist because they are so low life and dishonest and You know, they create the killing fields, they've contaminated the planet, you know, the food, the water, everything, you know, and they operate with no conscience.

01:42:04.000 And I just feel like we're approaching that point of separation where they won't be able to function in their thought forms in a higher vibration.

01:42:12.000 In fact, that's what they call it.

01:42:13.000 They call it separation consciousness and the people they torture to create mind control slaves, and that's declassified, David.

01:42:20.000 Yeah, and I went through years and years in the 90s and early in this century, deeply, deeply researching mind control techniques.

01:42:31.000 And when I talk to a stream of mind control victims who are now trying to deprogram, they'll tell me the same.

01:42:38.000 They can't get to consciousness.

01:42:39.000 The mind control is done on the body computer level.

01:42:41.000 They even talk in the mind control projects about mind files and things like this.

01:42:46.000 They understand what the computer is.

01:42:47.000 They're trying to lock us into that.

01:42:49.000 And when we look in the mirror and identify who we are with what we're looking at, Hold on, hold on.

01:42:55.000 Here we go, behind the scenes.

01:42:57.000 David, continue, and then Michael in Texas, finish up.

01:43:01.000 Go ahead.

01:43:03.000 Okay, what I was going to say is that if you look at society, and the way it's structured, and all the things that are in society to attract us, they're all five sense things.

01:43:13.000 They're all five sense magnets.

01:43:16.000 Um, you know, this taste, ooh, this smell, ooh, look at this, hear this, ooh, feel this.

01:43:22.000 It's all bringing us into the five sense level of reality, and it's done behind the scenes, on purpose.

01:43:29.000 You know, where is the talk of this stuff?

01:43:32.000 As you rightly say, you know, the thing is that science is a mass of dots called disciplines that don't talk to each other.

01:43:39.000 When you connect the dots, they've already sussed what this reality is, but if they don't connect the dots, then the dots don't come together.

01:43:46.000 You can't see that they've sussed what this reality is, because they don't talk to each other.

01:43:50.000 And the idea is to keep those dots as dots, so we don't connect it and see the nature of reality we're experiencing, and to hold us in the five senses by creating a society that is appealing to them all the time.

01:44:04.000 We should be talking about this in the schools and the colleges.

01:44:07.000 We should be talking about this in the media.

01:44:09.000 I mean, big questions, which is where you get big answers from.

01:44:13.000 What is reality?

01:44:14.000 Who are we?

01:44:14.000 Where are we?

01:44:15.000 Why are these big questions never asked in the mainstream of public information?

01:44:19.000 David, here's an example.

01:44:20.000 Here's an example, and then we'll let Michael finish up.

01:44:23.000 They're constantly putting out fish lures to drag us into petty, base, five senses, or the basic instincts for the bestial survival level, and through fear they try to put us into the primitive level.

01:44:39.000 That's a way for a psychologist or sociologist or a union or somebody to put it very, very simply.

01:44:46.000 But an example is, I'll watch TV just to monitor, maybe two or three times a week, but I can barely do it.

01:44:52.000 And I'll be on the treadmill in the garage watching Fox TV and there's these beautiful info babes, smiling, putting sexual desire looks, licking their lips, staring at you like, no, oh, and I catch myself shifting into a primitive level, liking her, looking at her, because she's been trained through the TV to look at everyone like she wants to have passionate, wild, primitive sex with you right now, and the programmers know That that's what they're doing.

01:45:22.000 And then the men that are on those shows, on Fox especially, they're going for what women want. 0.85

01:45:27.000 A man who's sweet and loving and wants to hear them.

01:45:29.000 And they'll, oh yes, as they report the news, it could be about anything.

01:45:33.000 Oh good, thank you.

01:45:35.000 It's all about a fake genuineness.

01:45:38.000 There's an example of the false reality.

01:45:40.000 It's a TV, it's a signal, the woman isn't there, the man isn't there, but it is just base, complete, total, and absolute programming, manipulating the senses of the brain, and people get invested in the ride, like Bill Hicks said, they get invested in the false paradigm, and they get mad at you when you're trying to get them to struggle out of it.

01:46:01.000 Here we go, final segment.

01:46:05.000 Okay, David, I was talking about Fox News and TV and how the woman lustfully looks at you through the TV, but it isn't real.

01:46:12.000 It's a digital image, and she isn't really personally looking at you.

01:46:15.000 They're manipulating our basic genetic code as a mammal.

01:46:18.000 You're saying rise above that.

01:46:20.000 David Icke, and then finish up, Michael.

01:46:23.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, the five senses are there, and we can enjoy them, and we can experience this world through them.

01:46:30.000 But once the five senses become the only, or the master level, of experiences... We can be lied to and manipulated through that!

01:46:40.000 Yeah, I mean, we are then in the trap.

01:46:43.000 We're then in the mousetrap.

01:46:45.000 They've got us.

01:46:46.000 So you can experience the five senses.

01:46:48.000 Something is very nice.

01:46:49.000 We don't come here to then ignore the fact that we're here.

01:46:52.000 And I would say this to people who awaken, quote, spiritually.

01:46:55.000 You know, we don't come here to awaken our consciousness and then ignore the fact that we're actually here because we've opened our consciousness.

01:47:02.000 Consciousness has to express itself to make the changes in society that it's made.

01:47:10.000 Faith without works is dead!

01:47:11.000 I mean, if you've really changed your consciousness from evil and destruction to love and light, you're going to try to help people.

01:47:17.000 Quickly finish, Michael.

01:47:18.000 All the time.

01:47:19.000 You're going to try to do what is right.

01:47:22.000 You're going to do what is right.

01:47:22.000 Not even try.

01:47:24.000 If you're not doing that, then don't kid yourself you've got expanded consciousness.

01:47:28.000 Yeah.

01:47:28.000 Michael, anything else?

01:47:29.000 Yes, sir.

01:47:30.000 Just for your listening audience.

01:47:32.000 One way through my own personal experience of raising my personal vibration and recognizing it as it happens is the feeling of goose bumps.

01:47:41.000 That's just a surge of vital energy coming into every cell of your body, head to toe.

01:47:46.000 It feels good.

01:47:47.000 It feels warm.

01:47:48.000 And you can just actually consciously understand and realize how your vibration frequency is changing.

01:47:55.000 And by thinking about good things, good thoughts, like truth rising or Luke Radowsky standing up to Whatever that guy's name is.

01:48:03.000 Getting past the fear.

01:48:04.000 Taking action.

01:48:05.000 Absolutely.

01:48:07.000 Exactly.

01:48:07.000 People think that I'm putting out fear.

01:48:09.000 I'm not.

01:48:10.000 I'm saying there's a threat.

01:48:11.000 We've got to meet it.

01:48:12.000 It's empowering to take action against it.

01:48:14.000 I appreciate your call.

01:48:15.000 David, I know you've got to go have that meeting.

01:48:16.000 I'm going to twist your arm for only five minutes when the hour ends in three minutes so we can talk to Hashur, Ryan, Tim and Guy.

01:48:23.000 You can do five minutes after, can't you?

01:48:25.000 Okay, okay, no problem.

01:48:26.000 All right, twisting the arm of David Icke, DavidIcke.com, and when this radio show ends on the AM and FM dial in three minutes, you'll have to tune to InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com on those streams or PrisonPlanet.tv to see us go live into overdrive right now.

01:48:43.000 Uh, Hashore in Oklahoma, you're on the air with David Icke.

01:48:48.000 Hello?

01:48:48.000 Yes, sir, you're on the air.

01:48:49.000 Yes, um, Mr. Jones, I've been listening to you for about three years now.

01:48:54.000 And I have quite an extensive notebook of notes that I've been keeping relative to many of your shows.

01:49:01.000 This one in particular struck my interest because you're speaking of vibrational energy, which you've been referring to as frequencies.

01:49:10.000 And I've been studying that phenomenon for some time now, mainly through ancient languages.

01:49:17.000 And, for example, I am of the belief, based on extensive research, that what you refer to as the New World Order and the current economic crisis is actually a transformation of the Beast of Mammon that will re-emerge as the Neo-Roman Empire. 0.61

01:49:35.000 And one of the reasons I say that is because of the calendar that Western culture, and most of the industrialized world lives by, is the same calendar that was implemented by Julius Caesar in 46 B.C.

01:49:47.000 And that what we are experiencing now is, in fact, the culmination of the prophecy relative to... Alright, stop right there.

01:49:54.000 I've got to jump because we're ending the main transmission.

01:49:56.000 Only five minutes left with David Icke.

01:49:57.000 DavidIcke.com.

01:49:58.000 Again, my websites are InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:50:02.000 When David leaves us in five minutes, I'm going to cover the latest economic developments in overdrive only at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:50:09.000 But in the 30 seconds we've got left, the main transmission, David, But we have to end this in just a few minutes, because other shows are coming up, and I've got to get off the line.

01:50:21.000 Well, we're just going to go into retransmission now, but bottom line, David, they are trying to recreate empires they've had previously, and I'll ask you right now, as we go into overdrive, why they are doing that.

01:50:32.000 Here we go, ladies and gentlemen, into overdrive, right now.

01:50:37.000 David, I'm going to let you go in just five minutes, because I'm going to get off this network line, but network, I'm fine to be here for five minutes, I know that.

01:50:44.000 Comment on what he was just saying.

01:50:46.000 Well, they definitely throw this forward a very, very long way, and yet we get into the deeper stuff here.

01:50:54.000 There's a reason why they can do that.

01:50:56.000 People have said to me, understandably over the years, why would people hundreds of years ago give their lives to A global enslavement plan when they knew they weren't going to be around by the time it arrived.

01:51:11.000 But this visible light frequency has a certain version of time.

01:51:18.000 It's a manipulated version of time.

01:51:19.000 I mean, you can fly across a mythical line on the planet and go into tomorrow or go the other way and go into today or yesterday or whatever.

01:51:29.000 And it's just a mythical time based on the timeline actually going through London, the heart of the beast.

01:51:35.000 And so it's a sequence of events that we measure as time, but it's an illusion.

01:51:42.000 And these entities that operate outside of this timeline, they can move up and down it and come in at different points.

01:51:49.000 So the same entities can be manipulated in the 1600s, that are manipulated in the 1700s, that are manipulated in the 1800s, because that's why this bloodline comes through history.

01:51:59.000 What's coming is the vehicles being passed through history, the compatible vehicles.

01:52:04.000 They can plan, in our timeline terms, vaster distances ahead, because they've not got the same relationship to our timeline as we have.

01:52:13.000 And the Roman Empire is massively significant in this, and what they've done is they've just constantly, constantly sought to expand the size of the empire, centralize power more and more.

01:52:25.000 We were in tribes once, then the tribes became nations.

01:52:28.000 Central Point is now dictating to all the previous tribes that were looking after themselves. 0.99

01:52:33.000 Now we're into the big way, into the next stage, which is bringing nations together under super states.

01:52:38.000 And so it's been a coordinated plan over this thousands of years to bring us to the point where there is a global centralized empire, and that's what we're looking at now.

01:52:50.000 Wow, incredible answer.

01:52:51.000 Let's jam in these four calls and let you get out of here.

01:52:55.000 Ryan in California.

01:52:55.000 Three calls.

01:52:57.000 Oh, we have time for those three.

01:52:58.000 I apologize, listeners.

01:52:59.000 Ryan in California.

01:53:00.000 You're on with a legendary day of the night.

01:53:03.000 How are you guys doing today?

01:53:04.000 Good.

01:53:05.000 Okay, well I'm just going to try to get it quick, since you guys are short on time.

01:53:09.000 Yeah, when you guys were talking about the know, the infinite knowledge, this is kind of my perspective on things.

01:53:15.000 So, all form is formless, not to say formlessness has no substance, but to say the substance there is has no foundation outside of conceptualization.

01:53:23.000 Pure wisdom has no conceptualization.

01:53:25.000 Pure wisdom is infinite knowing.

01:53:27.000 Infinite knowledge is similar to intuition, but far greater to the moment of now.

01:53:30.000 Though form is formless, formlessness roots itself in all that is perceived.

01:53:34.000 When perception is observed in this manner, one can notice the fluctuation of the universal hologram.

01:53:39.000 The universal hologram is operated by you, which in turn works through sound.

01:53:43.000 Sound is also formless.

01:53:44.000 Sound is a tool for creating form.

01:53:46.000 Without vibration, there is, once again, no foundation for form to exist.

01:53:49.000 Using that, I think, for you guys, is a way to express the no when you're on the guards or what you guys were saying.

01:53:58.000 Well, here's an example.

01:53:59.000 I can meet somebody from India or Russia or China who's never heard of me, never heard of David Icke, or I can meet some old lady at a gas station in East Texas who doesn't know who I am, and they have all the basic knowledge, and they know all the tricks of the New World Order, and they understand it innately never even reading about it.

01:54:16.000 And it's the same thing with, like, Willie Nelson.

01:54:18.000 You meet Willie Nelson, it's like Obi-Wan Kenobi, and he knows all about it all.

01:54:22.000 He's really humble, and he is definitely tuned in, you know, to the higher levels.

01:54:29.000 And I appreciate your call, Ryan.

01:54:32.000 Comments on that, David Icke?

01:54:34.000 Well, I would make this point, and I think it's important to understand this.

01:54:42.000 Because the whole of this reality is about information, which on one level takes a vibrational form, when You've only got to put your hand in front of your mouth and you can feel the vibration of speech.

01:54:53.000 I mean, what have we got?

01:54:55.000 We've got the sound box is a vibration creator.

01:54:59.000 That's what it is.

01:55:00.000 And then the receiver decodes that into language through the left brain and that's how communication goes on.

01:55:06.000 Between me speaking and the person decoding what I'm hearing is actually no noise.

01:55:10.000 It's just a vibration, and it's decoded through the receiving body computers into what we call language.

01:55:17.000 And therefore, it's not just when I'm speaking on your show, or you're speaking on your show, and the people listening.

01:55:18.000 Therefore, it's not just when I'm speaking on your show or you're speaking on your show and the people listening.

01:55:26.000 That's not the only level of communication.

01:55:28.000 Yeah, that's going through the space-time continuum somehow.

01:55:30.000 As it's broadcast, the whole area that it's broadcast across is offering the potential for someone to walk down the street and just tune into it.

01:55:41.000 They won't hear the Alex Jones show, but they will get a knowing, they'll get an instinctive, intuitive feeling from that information that is in the ether there to be decoded whenever we choose.

01:55:52.000 And the more people expand their minds, the more sensitive they become to that and the more intuitive they become to information they will.

01:55:59.000 Well, I've got to let you go in just a minute, and I want to talk to Tim and Guy, but let me just put out this point, and I'm sure you'll pick up on it.

01:56:05.000 I probably already have the same thought or even deeper. - Sure.

01:56:07.000 The New World Order are masters.

01:56:09.000 They are virtuosos, conductors at this.

01:56:13.000 When they threaten that there are evil terrorists that want to hurt you, that want your freedom, that want to kill you, they know the public subconscious, you know, sixth sense, whatever, is picking up the fact that there are evil groups.

01:56:27.000 There are terrorists.

01:56:28.000 Somebody attacked us on 9-11.

01:56:30.000 Somebody's got some evil plan.

01:56:32.000 So the New World Order knows they have to have a terrorist group.

01:56:34.000 Yeah, I do.

01:56:35.000 and a terror attack, not just to scare the public into submission, but because the public's already picking up that the government's evil, so they need to put the cutout of al-Qaeda, al-Ci-Ada, in front of it, so that the New World Order, Illuminati, can take all the fear being generated by the public picking up on them being evil, and place it onto the can take all the fear being generated by the public picking Do you see what I'm saying?

01:56:55.000 Yeah, I do.

01:56:56.000 And you see, this is where symbolism comes in.

01:56:58.000 You see, the Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor, that was given to New York by French Freemasons, who knew what it stood for.

01:57:04.000 It's Queen Semiramis from Babylon, holding the symbol of Nimrod in Babylon, which is the lighted torch.

01:57:12.000 And so that, because it symbolizes, whatever something symbolizes, that vibration is what it elicits.

01:57:21.000 And so they put these symbols around us which symbolize certain concepts of overwhelmingly dark, controlled, really what you call evil concepts.

01:57:31.000 And that energy is being generated by these symbols because that is what they represent.

01:57:36.000 Because beyond the physical of that symbol, it's an energy field vibrating.

01:57:40.000 And people pick them up.

01:57:41.000 This is how they can and do manipulate the energy field, the sea if you like.

01:57:46.000 of the major cities, et cetera, so that we're walking through this stuff all the time.

01:57:51.000 All right, I don't want to take you much longer than I said I would.

01:57:54.000 We're so thankful, David, for your great insight, and I'm very appreciative of you, and also for you forgiving me eight, nine years ago when I said mean things about you before I really, really thought you were for real and had grown myself.

01:58:05.000 So I just want to tell you before you leave us that I really appreciate you, David.

01:58:09.000 No problem, mate.

01:58:10.000 You bet.

01:58:11.000 Let's talk to Tim in Ohio.

01:58:12.000 Tim, you're on the air.

01:58:13.000 Go ahead.

01:58:14.000 Tim dropped off.

01:58:15.000 Oh, Tim dropped.

01:58:16.000 Okay, Guy in Canada, last caller I have time to go to for David Icke.

01:58:19.000 Go ahead, Guy.

01:58:21.000 Hi, uh, Alex, Dave.

01:58:23.000 Hello, Josh.

01:58:24.000 Hi.

01:58:25.000 Um, uh, just a quick comment for Alex, sir.

01:58:29.000 Um, I was introduced to you at the, uh, taping of the 9-1-1 Blueprint for Truth, uh, with, um, Richard Gage.

01:58:40.000 Uh, from there, I worked feverishly to get myself off the grid, and I can live off the grid now.

01:58:44.000 I've gotten some cattle.

01:58:46.000 Uh, I don't use the regular toothpaste anymore.

01:58:49.000 And you've really woken me up, and I've used your tools to help wake up all the students.

01:58:52.000 Well, good job!

01:58:53.000 I mean, the establishment doesn't want you to be self-sufficient and independent.

01:58:57.000 They don't want us spread out on the land.

01:58:58.000 They want us in compact cities.

01:59:00.000 So you're doing the right thing there.

01:59:01.000 Anything for David Icke?

01:59:03.000 Yeah, Dave, I just got your three DVD sets, Freedom or Fascism, Time to Choose.

01:59:08.000 Great DVD set, and I was wondering, are you going to be heading through Winnipeg, Manitoba anytime soon?

01:59:13.000 Well, if someone asks me, I will, but every time I come into Canada, why Canada, I don't know, though I've got an idea, I get stopped for hours at the border, all my gear is looked through, they find nothing, and eventually let me in.

01:59:26.000 So, what the problem is with Canada, I mean, what I find out, as you know, is it's just off mainstream countries, like, you know, the major force in North America, in terms of public awareness, is the United States.

01:59:40.000 The major force in Central Europe there is Germany.

01:59:44.000 And yet so much goes on in Canada, so much goes on in Austria.

01:59:48.000 The country won back from the major country in that area in terms of public awareness and politics and everything.

01:59:58.000 And so much goes on in Canada, which affects America and affects Canada of course, which is kept quiet in a much more efficient way because it's not in the United States.

02:00:11.000 You're absolutely right, and of course I got detained when I was in Canada as well.

02:00:16.000 I appreciate your call, Guy.

02:00:18.000 In closing, David, a lot is going on, a lot is happening, and I don't put on a lot of events, but if six months down the road I wanted to get a hall that held like 5,000 people, where, say, I would speak one day and you would speak another day, and I mean, would you entertain?

02:00:39.000 I jump at it.

02:00:40.000 You know, we guys have got to, you know, support each other and let our differences, you know, go over a bit.

02:00:49.000 David, I don't think we have any... I was just going to say, smaller they're now becoming.

02:00:55.000 And just focus together on what affects us all, which is the freedom of everybody.

02:01:00.000 I would jump at it, mate, yeah.

02:01:02.000 Well, me too.

02:01:02.000 Let's set it up.

02:01:03.000 Let's do it.

02:01:04.000 I'll call you in a week or so whenever you get back to England.

02:01:07.000 When are you getting back to England?

02:01:08.000 End of the week I'll be there.

02:01:10.000 Okay, well, I'll let you rest.

02:01:11.000 I'll call you in about a week and a half or so.

02:01:12.000 I just wanted to say that what concerns me is that my guts, my instincts, whatever you want to call it, my sixth sense tells me to work with you, tells me that you're right, and it's just so crazy to realize that reality is so false.

02:01:27.000 Yeah.

02:01:28.000 And it's amazing, but we're all together in this.

02:01:31.000 And like you said, I look into your eyes and see myself.

02:01:34.000 You look into mine, I see yours.

02:01:35.000 We look into a woman's eyes in the street.

02:01:37.000 We look back at humanity and this great journey.

02:01:40.000 And so David Icke, thank you so much for all the time.

02:01:42.000 DavidIcke.com.

02:01:43.000 Tell the listeners about your latest book.

02:01:46.000 Well, it's a massive work called The David Icke Guide to the Global Conspiracy, which I pull all together, all the different elements, and the first two chapters are all that we've been talking about today in great detail.

02:01:58.000 And the first two chapters, because once we understand the nature of reality, the nature of the society that's been created for us starts to become crystal clear.

02:02:08.000 David Icke, amazing interview.

02:02:10.000 Thank you for the two-plus hours, and I hope to have you up every few months when your schedule allows, and I hope to see you in person sometime here in Texas.

02:02:19.000 Take care.

02:02:20.000 That'll be great.

02:02:21.000 Cheers, Alex.

02:02:21.000 Bye.

02:02:22.000 Take care.

02:02:22.000 There goes David Icke.

02:02:24.000 I'm going to go ahead and disconnect with Genesis now.

02:02:26.000 John Harmon, come up and say hi to everybody.

02:02:29.000 John, what did you think of that two-plus hour interview with David Icke?

02:02:32.000 That was great.

02:02:33.000 Great information.

02:02:34.000 You guys work really good together.

02:02:36.000 That's pretty much all I can say.

02:02:38.000 Well, amazing information.

02:02:40.000 Definitely.

02:02:42.000 You know what?

02:02:42.000 You were telling me that the ISDN's freed up.

02:02:45.000 I'm not sure why, but why don't you go drag Ted in here? 0.80

02:02:48.000 Will you go find him?

02:02:49.000 I mean, is it okay if I stay connected here with the network for another ten minutes instead of having Ted calling on the phone line?

02:02:55.000 Sure, I can grab him in the studio.

02:02:56.000 Okay, go find him for me.

02:02:57.000 Thank you.

02:02:58.000 John Harmon.

02:02:58.000 So we'll stay connected with the network.

02:03:02.000 There.

02:03:03.000 Let me give you the latest financial information that we have here.

02:03:09.000 I just had it on the screen and then my computer browser crashed.

02:03:17.000 So let me go back to it and give people my comments on the latest things that are happening financially right now.

02:03:26.000 Look, whether you love David Icke or hate David Icke, he is for real.

02:03:30.000 He means what he's saying.

02:03:32.000 And like I said, I agree with about 98% of what he has to say, and he's really a classy guy.

02:03:36.000 You know, I called him on international television, the turd in the punch bowl, because people back then weren't ready to wake up to even...

02:03:43.000 Wilder things, and I said, you know, he covers all these things that are true and then goes even further.

02:03:47.000 But what he says about the elite, I have researched and found that they believe it's true.

02:03:52.000 So whether it's the truth or not, whether they're in touch with different entities or not, you know, I'm not crazy for reporting on the fact that the elite believe that they're doing that.

02:04:03.000 The stock market dropped around 700 points.

02:04:07.000 It's gone up about 200 back from that point as the Plunge Protection Team pumps money in.

02:04:11.000 When the Federal Reserve and the Treasury and the President and others bad-mouthed Everybody.

02:04:22.000 And said the stock market was basically going to die last week if we didn't submit to them and go along with them.

02:04:28.000 That was economic terrorism and that's the big issue that everybody needs to be discussing and getting out.

02:04:32.000 That that was a crime.

02:04:33.000 Yelling fire in the financial theater.

02:04:36.000 There's all sorts of laws against people in high places involved in financial panics for insider trading.

02:04:43.000 And that's the key here.

02:04:44.000 This was insider trading so that they would get immunity and trillions of dollars, not $700 or $851 billion, it's more like $5 trillion according to Bloomberg and other publications.

02:04:53.000 And they terrorize the public from high places in insider trading to affect the markets, to drive them down, to have the Plunge Protection Team stand back and not pump it up, to totally discredit world markets as world markets all over meltdown.

02:05:05.000 And now they're saying trillions of U.S.

02:05:06.000 taxpayer dollars, devaluing our currency and we've got to pay it back in taxes.

02:05:12.000 We'll now be used to buy up any foreign banks, any assets at full value they want for this select group of interbanks that are going to get all these assets.

02:05:20.000 This is the biggest bank robbery ever seen.

02:05:22.000 It's getting worse by the day.

02:05:25.000 It is just unbelievable.

02:05:29.000 You know, Ted Anderson, you've been doing this almost 30 years, to consciously deal With the fact that they are involved in insider trading, that they have engineered all this, that they are plunging the markets yet again, that they are terrorizing the public into giving them unlimited power.

02:05:48.000 But the good news is the public, 90 plus percent, don't agree with them and the establishment is being revealed and exposed right now.

02:05:55.000 I wanted to drag you back in here and really get your take on all this, Ted Anderson.

02:05:59.000 Yeah, I can tell you right now, Alex, that's what's going on.

02:06:03.000 Right now, we the people, the United States, are financing the elite, like you said, the Federal Reserve System, their banking partners, which, I mean, a lot of people don't know this, but the Federal Reserve System is made up, is owned by the Federal Reserve Bank branches.

02:06:20.000 In order to be a Federal Reserve Bank branch, you have to have at least 2% of the Federal Reserve System.

02:06:25.000 You have to own that much of it.

02:06:27.000 And so the Citicorp, Wells Fargo, all these different, you know, Mellon Bank, Chase Manhattan, all these banks that are members of the Federal Reserve Banking System are part owners of this.

02:06:45.000 And what we have going on right now is we have the Paulsons coming in and saying, OK, we're going to buy up all this bad debt.

02:06:53.000 And take it off your hands so you guys can start trading amongst each other again.

02:06:56.000 You can trust, you know, right now there's a, you know, everything's all locked up because they don't trust each other's portfolios.

02:07:03.000 Nobody knows what they have or what it's worth.

02:07:05.000 How can we trade this?

02:07:06.000 And this whole system set up the way it is really does it.

02:07:10.000 It transfers the real value of what people worked all their lives for And just basically dumps it in the hands of these people, and now they're asking for complete immunity to do it.

02:07:20.000 And the crazy part about it is, is Congress just handed it to them.

02:07:24.000 I mean, it is just absolutely absurd that if anybody else in the world or in the United States tried to do something like this, I mean, they'd be tried for many crimes, not just one.

02:07:36.000 I mean, just a whole long list of this.

02:07:38.000 And here they are, they're able to go in and they're able to buy all this stuff up, Basically dump all the bad loans that were written on the end.

02:07:46.000 And by bad-mouthing the market for two weeks saying the world market was screwed, gonna plunge to depression, that destroyed remaining confidence when they'd already built the Ponzi scheme.

02:07:56.000 They're blowing out their Ponzi scheme to suck up all the pieces of the puzzle that are left because unlike a regular Ponzi, they don't have to run out of town with the money.

02:08:04.000 They get to now play the part of the savior and expand it into an even bigger Ponzi scheme, German bank runs, all sorts of crises in Europe, crises in Asia, stock markets plunging all over the planet. 0.99

02:08:15.000 And these bastards, they engineered it all, Ted. 0.99

02:08:18.000 They did engineer it all. 1.00

02:08:19.000 They're ending up with all the real value.

02:08:20.000 That's the whole point.

02:08:21.000 I mean, the United States... They bail themselves out at the expense of Main Street and have the nerve to tell us that this was for us.

02:08:29.000 Yeah, that's what's going on, Alex.

02:08:30.000 That's exactly right.

02:08:31.000 Right now, they are saying that the people have gone too far into debt and the people have pushed themselves so far.

02:08:38.000 Well, it isn't the people that did this.

02:08:40.000 I mean, they set up this, first of all, this banking system to get money into the system.

02:08:46.000 We can't even have commerce here in the United States without taking on more debt from the Federal Reserve System.

02:08:52.000 And as we have more commerce, it becomes more debt to us.

02:08:56.000 And that's how the system works.

02:08:57.000 Now they're blaming the people because we went into debt.

02:09:00.000 They set up a financial system where it was very hard for the average person not to, and they said it was good and the thing to do.

02:09:06.000 It was all a massive setup.

02:09:08.000 Again, I'm looking at the news.

02:09:10.000 As it pours in, and they're probably going to try to terrorize people into even bigger bailouts.

02:09:14.000 They're saying they're going to bail out all these states, foreign countries, foreign banks, foreign insurance companies, brokerage firms, and they can decide to give it to whoever they want.

02:09:22.000 They're giving it to their own interest.

02:09:24.000 We have open insider trading sucking the treasury dry for generations in front of us.

02:09:29.000 It is so big, it is unspeakable.

02:09:32.000 Well, the flip side of that, Alex, is that you can't print prosperity.

02:09:36.000 And you cannot print wealth.

02:09:38.000 You can print money, but you cannot print wealth.

02:09:40.000 They just had a trillion dollar defense budget, doubling previous budgets.

02:09:45.000 They are whoring it all out.

02:09:46.000 It's going to devalue the dollar. 0.50

02:09:47.000 Before you leave us, Ted, for the internet audience only, I cannot stress enough, and you know me, what I'm privately doing, Restorable Food, everything, they are insane.

02:09:57.000 You have gold.

02:09:58.000 You have the French and Swiss francs, excellent coins, that dealers in the U.S.

02:10:04.000 can't even get.

02:10:05.000 That your foreign dealers are running out.

02:10:07.000 Thank God you've got some in your hand.

02:10:09.000 You've got Indians that you've got, but you can't even at this time get any more of. 1.00

02:10:13.000 For people that missed it earlier when I cut you short for David Icke, tell them what your suppliers in... You've been in this since 1980, 28 years.

02:10:21.000 You told me this morning, you were freaked out.

02:10:23.000 You said you have never seen it where all the major suppliers are out.

02:10:27.000 The gold and silver you've got could be all you're getting.

02:10:30.000 Usually it's like this, Alex.

02:10:32.000 I'll call my suppliers and they'll be waiting for me to place an order so I can do it.

02:10:36.000 And there's usually no restriction.

02:10:38.000 Right now, my suppliers are sitting there just running around like their tails cut off, looking for places to buy just the material that I'm short in.

02:10:47.000 And I'm asking them to take on positions right now.

02:10:49.000 I said, well, what can you put me into that I can actually have so I can deliver it to my customers?

02:10:54.000 He says, well, 20 francs I can still do right now.

02:10:56.000 I said, good.

02:10:56.000 Get me all you have.

02:10:58.000 What about the British Sovereign?

02:10:59.000 He says, right now I'm three weeks out on the British Sovereign.

02:11:01.000 I said, I don't care.

02:11:02.000 Get as many as you can.

02:11:03.000 Get them in here so I can get them to my customers.

02:11:05.000 You know, one of my hosts always says, hey, I've got 10 bags of Franklin halves.

02:11:10.000 I said, give me all 10.

02:11:11.000 Because I want my customers into silver, too.

02:11:14.000 I want them in it right now.

02:11:15.000 There's just too much risk in the banking system, and this fiat currency, and the stock market, and the bond market, and the annuities.

02:11:24.000 And Ted, you were telling me, I mean, it's like two weeks ago, the American Mint says, we can't buy enough gold.

02:11:29.000 We're suspending coining U.S. 0.99

02:11:32.000 coins for now, and they're sold out of the Buffalos, and you can't get Buffalos.

02:11:36.000 You got a few hundred last week and sold them in a few minutes.

02:11:39.000 I mean, ladies and gentlemen, To explain this, they are suppressing the gold market, but it's still rising.

02:11:44.000 Gold's way up today.

02:11:46.000 But it should be at like $3,000 an ounce, most economists say, to 1980 inflation.

02:11:51.000 And then meanwhile, there's runs on it everywhere.

02:11:54.000 The public's starting to figure this out.

02:11:56.000 When the general public figures it out, you're not going to be able to get it at any price.

02:11:59.000 You were telling me earlier, the bullion's all sold out.

02:12:02.000 You're getting collectible coins that you're being able to sell at below bullion, because you bought them last week before gold raced up.

02:12:08.000 Well, that's right, Alex.

02:12:09.000 And then in addition to this, yeah, gold's up 30-some bucks right now.

02:12:13.000 And I picked up this stuff before it ran up.

02:12:16.000 And the other thing, too, is that, you know, I mean, you've got U.S.

02:12:18.000 Eagles gone from the marketplace.

02:12:20.000 Can't get them.

02:12:21.000 Maple Leafs, forget it.

02:12:22.000 You can't get Canadian Maple Leafs right now.

02:12:24.000 That Buffalo coin we talked about the other day, I mean, what did I sell?

02:12:27.000 A couple hundred of them?

02:12:29.000 You know, it's going to be tough to deliver any more further than I had to stop the sale on those things.

02:12:34.000 That's right.

02:12:35.000 But right now, you have the Franks. 0.99

02:12:37.000 Tell us about the Indian coin.

02:12:38.000 Oh, that $10 Indian right now, usually the $10 Indian trades for about, I don't know, I guess about three to four times above its melt value, and right now it's practically trading at its melt value.

02:12:48.000 I said, well, what can I get in collector coin era?

02:12:51.000 So you're finding a few collectors that nobody noticed that are near melt right now.

02:12:56.000 These are insane deals.

02:12:57.000 Well, because here's what happened, Alex.

02:12:59.000 The economy's taken a big dive and people have been steering away from collector stuff and they've been going into the bullion.

02:13:04.000 So this stuff here, the bullion's gone up so fast, it's like people forgot about them.

02:13:09.000 And I've got about a thousand of these $10 Indians that I can sell at a price of about, hang on a second here, let me take a quick look again. 1.00

02:13:15.000 Where are they at?

02:13:16.000 I have $10 Indians right now at $670.

02:13:18.000 I mean, these things were like $3,500 here about five, six years ago.

02:13:24.000 And it's just totally distorted.

02:13:27.000 It's a gorgeous collectible coin.

02:13:29.000 It is.

02:13:30.000 It's close to melt.

02:13:31.000 Last week prices $800, $686, $2237.

02:13:32.000 He has European francs.

02:13:36.000 Those are Swiss. 0.98

02:13:37.000 Those are French.

02:13:38.000 Gorgeous little coins.

02:13:39.000 They even have some collector value at very close to melt at last week's prices.

02:13:43.000 He has the Indian, which is gorgeous.

02:13:45.000 And you have the Franklin half-dollar silvers, which are running out quick, you were telling me.

02:13:50.000 Oh yeah.

02:13:50.000 Yeah, the Franklin, like I said, there's just a small little supply that I have.

02:13:54.000 When I talk about 20 bags, some of you might think, well, that's a lot.

02:13:57.000 It's really not.

02:13:58.000 I mean, not for the kind of volume that we're doing, and not for the kind of volume that the market is doing right now.

02:14:02.000 Can you believe they terrorize the public into the bailout and look at the market plunging?

02:14:06.000 Oh, first of all, everybody assumed that was jumping into this thing, that everything was going to be hunky-dory if they did this.

02:14:15.000 Well, it's obvious that the United States dollar is going to be doomed because they're printing so much more money.

02:14:20.000 Oh, that's a foregone conclusion.

02:14:22.000 Yeah, it is just the beginning of the bailout, Alex. 0.96

02:14:24.000 Folks, while the money still has value, get into gold and silver now or you're insane.

02:14:28.000 Here's the number.

02:14:29.000 Now, what do they tell the brokers when they call so that they get last Friday's prices at thirty-something dollars cheaper?

02:14:34.000 All they have to do is call in and say, hey, look, I've heard it on the Alex Jones Show.

02:14:37.000 It's the Alex Jones Special.

02:14:39.000 You're going to get the prices that are definitely a better price because I can tell you right now the market's higher.

02:14:45.000 And you can call everywhere across the United States.

02:14:48.000 I've had people call up and it's like, oh, how fast can I get it?

02:14:51.000 Well, it's going to take your check, it's going to get your yadda yadda.

02:14:53.000 They call another dealer and find out it's going to take them three, four weeks just to get the stuff shipped.

02:14:58.000 Ted Anderson has it.

02:15:00.000 Ted Anderson has it.

02:15:02.000 Now, Ted, you've got some other coins in your vault.

02:15:04.000 Either I have it right here in my safe, or it's being shipped to me right now.

02:15:07.000 But Ted, what is in your safe?

02:15:09.000 Because you told me you had a lot of stuff customers weeks ago had sold you.

02:15:14.000 I mean, I know there's a little of this, a little of that.

02:15:16.000 You want to do the offers of some smaller lots you've got?

02:15:19.000 Well, I tell you what, I really don't have much because of the demand right now, and I really hate to even say it.

02:15:24.000 I've got a small amount of some fractional gold coins.

02:15:27.000 You can ask for those.

02:15:28.000 I would really suggest, if you want to get into something, probably those $10 Indians are going to be one of your best buys. 1.00

02:15:35.000 Certainly, silver right now, I mean, is in such short supply.

02:15:39.000 It was in short supply coming into this.

02:15:41.000 Back when silver was about $3.50 an ounce, every mine that was in the direct production of silver pretty well shut down.

02:15:48.000 Only the by-product mines are still putting it out.

02:15:51.000 In other words, the people that had to pull... They were already mining for something else, and it was silver.

02:15:56.000 Exactly.

02:15:56.000 Yeah, like copper and magnanese and some of these other nickel, you know, these other products that need to be used in industry.

02:16:04.000 And silver just happened to be a small little section of whatever came out, so they sold what they had.

02:16:09.000 Right now, because all those mines shutting down and the government just won't let you set up a new mine.

02:16:15.000 I mean, strip mining just does horrendous work.

02:16:18.000 It's insane.

02:16:19.000 I mean, this market is so manipulated.

02:16:21.000 It should be at $3,000 right now.

02:16:23.000 You have trouble getting any of it, but the price is going up, but not like it should be.

02:16:28.000 1-800-686-2237.

02:16:31.000 You cannot beat these deals.

02:16:32.000 It also makes the whole network possible.

02:16:34.000 Midas owns, or is a partner with Genesis.

02:16:36.000 Ted owns both companies.

02:16:38.000 Fabulous guy to get your gold and silver from.

02:16:40.000 1-800-686-2237.

02:16:40.000 Ted, in two minutes, closing comments.

02:16:45.000 Yeah, just real quick, just take a look at what's going on in the world market right now.

02:16:49.000 It started last week in the national market.

02:16:52.000 You're seeing it here in the United States in this meltdown of all these big corporations.

02:16:56.000 Expect to see the equivalent of that over in Europe and that's going to just add a lot of fuel to the fire.

02:17:03.000 We're certainly looking at some really horrific times And I just gotta say, you know, get your gold, get your guns, get your food storage, get your water filters.

02:17:12.000 Be prepared.

02:17:13.000 And not only just for you, but think about your neighbors around you as well.

02:17:16.000 Try to educate as many people as possible because it is a serious, serious time.

02:17:21.000 Now we're entering into Alex and I just, I can't say it enough.

02:17:24.000 I don't want this to be this way.

02:17:26.000 I fought so hard tooth and nail to try to get a sound currency system in here.

02:17:30.000 I must have put a hundred thousand dollars into the Ron Paul campaign trying to get people to wake up to airplanes and everything else.

02:17:36.000 I mean, if we had a gold standard right now, whose business do you think would slow down to practically nothing?

02:17:41.000 It would be mine.

02:17:42.000 People don't need to have gold if there's a gold standard.

02:17:45.000 I practically would have ruined my business if we got what I was asking for.

02:17:49.000 And I can tell you right now, my heart is with the nation.

02:17:51.000 I want to see this country... Oh, I'm the same way.

02:17:53.000 We have spoken out against the bankers, the bailouts, all of it, because we know... I mean, we're upset, and the Ted Niles say, yeah, we've been proving right about everything, but God, it's horrible.

02:18:02.000 Yeah, it isn't that... It's like having a doctor saying, this cancer's going to kill you.

02:18:05.000 We're not pleased with the fact that we were right.

02:18:07.000 No, not absolutely.

02:18:10.000 There's nothing good about what's going on right now.

02:18:13.000 We should be back.

02:18:14.000 I mean, that's really the one thing that is good that might come out of this is maybe just maybe the people of the United States of America will finally insist upon constitutional values here.

02:18:24.000 That would be the very thing that could possibly happen.

02:18:27.000 The other side of this is that Alex is going to play in like you're describing.

02:18:31.000 The elite is going to come in.

02:18:34.000 They keep on putting out, you know, there's problems and then they come in as the saviors and they end up taking more of our liberties away.

02:18:40.000 Hopefully the people are smart enough to wake up to this and stop it.

02:18:43.000 Absolutely.

02:18:44.000 We have a Steve Watson article up on PrisonPlanet.com.

02:18:47.000 Ron Paul bailout on constitutional special interest force bill through Congress.

02:18:53.000 And he goes through the fact, and martial law was threatened last week.

02:18:56.000 People need to get this story out to people.

02:18:58.000 Can you believe, Ted, that I actually had a congressman on who said on the floor they were threatening him with martial law and basically abolishing Congress if they didn't go along with the bailout?

02:19:07.000 I mean, this is so criminal.

02:19:09.000 CNN's reporting they may use the army against the American people.

02:19:13.000 It's just sad.

02:19:14.000 It really is sad.

02:19:15.000 I mean, who would have ever... I mean, we've talked about this stuff for so many years, and people probably thought we were cuckoo, you know?

02:19:21.000 And here it is unfolding right in front of everybody's eyes, and it's just... It's not that, like you said, it's not that I want to be right.

02:19:26.000 I don't think you want to be right about this stuff either.

02:19:29.000 It's just that this is what's going on.

02:19:31.000 And when you tell the truth, and it finally comes to pass, You know, and people wake up, oh my god, they're right about this.

02:19:37.000 You know, Ron Paul was right about having precious metals as money.

02:19:41.000 There's still people out there that don't believe that.

02:19:44.000 You know, it's crazy.

02:19:45.000 Well, look at this Bloomberg article I'm going to put on screen for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

02:19:49.000 We're going to go ahead and go to 33 after so we can just skip the break and meet with rebroadcast as I was analyzing the total police state banking takeover in the first hour.

02:19:57.000 Key info if you missed it, then David Icke coming up.

02:20:02.000 Fed may see companies, states, as next crisis fronts, and they say, we're going to bail out states, meaning the banks with our money are going to buy, because they get the assets, any state stuff they want, any private companies they want.

02:20:13.000 I mean, this is so criminal, they get immunity, they take our money and buy stuff at full value for private institutions!

02:20:22.000 And then the public gets nothing!

02:20:23.000 I'm not for socialism, by the way, but if we're going to have it, it might as well be for the people.

02:20:28.000 I mean, Ted, This is even worse than I thought it could be.

02:20:31.000 Well, just think about the deal that they offered.

02:20:33.000 Right now they can buy as much bad paper as they want to at a steep discount, and they can sell it back to the United States government at a profit.

02:20:41.000 Yeah, I don't even know.

02:20:42.000 I don't know how anybody can justify that.

02:20:45.000 Well, here's a report from the London Guardian.

02:20:47.000 Now Wall Street may shun $700 billion bailout.

02:20:50.000 And a bunch of other private banks and institutions are saying, this allows federal regulators to come in with money, and if we sign on to any of this, sometimes they force it.

02:21:00.000 Then we have no rights, and our company's taken over?

02:21:04.000 So see, there's also that, Ted.

02:21:05.000 Go ahead.

02:21:06.000 Yeah, I guess I didn't even think about that factor.

02:21:08.000 What if they decide to come in and take over the company that you're working for, or the one that you own?

02:21:12.000 It's craziness, man.

02:21:15.000 It is a complete 180 degree turn from what the Constitution says.

02:21:21.000 And if somebody has a crooked toenail, they will come after somebody in any business.

02:21:26.000 And now in the new bailout provision, global Greenhouse taxes, carbon taxes, carbon cap and trade taxes, regulation.

02:21:35.000 They're going to change the whole tax code for this. 1.00

02:21:39.000 It's also in there.

02:21:40.000 People obsessed on some pork barrel.

02:21:42.000 Forget the 150 million pork barrel they tacked on.

02:21:45.000 That's nothing.

02:21:46.000 Folks, they have it with secret IRS spies, thousands of new agents setting up businesses, trying to set you up and catch you in a mistake.

02:21:54.000 Spies, the IRS running stings, having their own money for informants.

02:21:58.000 They can spend taxpayer money on themselves personally.

02:22:01.000 You couldn't make this up, Ted.

02:22:03.000 No, it's just so sad.

02:22:05.000 I mean, it is the worst piece of legislation that I've ever heard of.

02:22:10.000 And here it is happening right in our own lifetime.

02:22:13.000 And everybody in the United States said no.

02:22:16.000 Ninety percent, like you said, didn't want it.

02:22:19.000 And they did it anyways.

02:22:20.000 Where in the world of these senators and congressmen You know, where their heads are, I have no idea.

02:22:27.000 Don't they have kids?

02:22:28.000 Aren't they concerned about this nation's future at all?

02:22:31.000 I mean, what, are they trying to stop a depression? 0.95

02:22:34.000 Are they nuts? 0.76

02:22:35.000 The engineer stopping a depression by fear-mongering about a depression? 0.99

02:22:40.000 No, they know that causes one.

02:22:41.000 They're blowing out the economy, as the IMF and World Bank documents say, so they can criminally, forcibly Consolidate.

02:22:48.000 Now, Ted, if somebody just has $6, they can call and buy a half-silver dollar, can't they?

02:22:53.000 They sure can.

02:22:54.000 If somebody wants to buy one Indian or one Frank, folks, that's how it starts. 1.00

02:22:59.000 And again, I only push what I believe in.

02:23:02.000 This is great gold at great prices, great silver at great prices, lower than it's currently selling for.

02:23:08.000 This is last week's prices.

02:23:10.000 This is such a good deal, it hurts the New World Order. 0.97

02:23:13.000 If the general public figured this out, you wouldn't be able to get it.

02:23:16.000 You can almost not get it now.

02:23:18.000 Give Ted Anderson and his brokers a call.

02:23:20.000 Tell them the Alex Jones Special on the Indians, on the Franks, on the Silver.

02:23:25.000 1-800-686-2237.

02:23:27.000 800-686-2237.

02:23:28.000 Ted, anything else?

02:23:32.000 No, that's just it.

02:23:33.000 I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that there's problems right now, man.

02:23:38.000 I can tell you, I wish people were this excited about gold five years ago.

02:23:42.000 When the prices were so much lower, but I can tell you right now, with the package that we've been just handed by Congress, and watching what's going on with Europe, and knowing that our country is going to be helping bail them out, the United States dollar is going to lose a lot of purchasing power, and it's not going to be a little.

02:23:57.000 It really will resemble things like what we've seen in Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Zambia, Russia, I mean, German Weimar Republic, it's all the same.

02:24:11.000 And when you start trying to print your way out of problems with the currency, it's done.

02:24:15.000 We're doomed.

02:24:16.000 And that's exactly what they're doing.

02:24:17.000 Absolutely.

02:24:18.000 They think they can solve a depression, Alex Jones, by printing money.

02:24:23.000 No, they know!

02:24:24.000 They've made the decision to fully blow the economy out, set up a police state out of the riots that unfold.

02:24:29.000 They'll use that to scare the public into accepting NORTHCOM and the martial law.

02:24:34.000 But thank God we've been here warning people, so a lot of people listen to us and we have a lot of credibility now.

02:24:38.000 Ted Anderson, thanks for talking to us.

02:24:40.000 Yeah, thanks for having me up again, Alex.

02:24:41.000 You bet.

02:24:43.000 John Harmon, you can go ahead and cut off the network link to us now for the InfoWars.com streams and the PrisonPlanet.tv folks.

02:24:51.000 I'm going to play a five-minute clip, by enough respect, One of the best YouTube directors out there.

02:24:57.000 Remember a few months ago I did an analysis with pen and paper on the document cam here in studio of how the two-party systems keep you in a controlled paradigm from getting outside the box and seeing the big picture.

02:25:09.000 I want to encourage everybody listening.

02:25:11.000 We need to shatter the left-right paradigm and he's done a great job, put a lot of work into this.

02:25:17.000 If you go YouTube, Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.

02:25:22.000 It's How the Elite Control Politics is the headline. 0.98

02:25:26.000 Another headline on Prison Planet is How the Illuminati Control Politics.

02:25:29.000 You will see what's on the YouTube screen here.

02:25:32.000 Now, I'm not going to make this big screen.

02:25:34.000 I want you to go see it for yourself, but 62,000 people have seen this in the months since he put it out.

02:25:39.000 I didn't find this until last night.

02:25:40.000 We linked to it.

02:25:41.000 Another 10,000 watched it in the last few hours.

02:25:43.000 I need this to go mega viral, just like the article Paul Watson's doing today.

02:25:48.000 That I want to leave up prominently for a week about who to blame, the history of the banking collapse, how it was engineered.

02:25:54.000 That's also important.

02:25:55.000 When this five-minute piece is over, we'll rejoin the retransmission with David Icke and your phone calls and my analysis on the implosion as well.

02:26:05.000 But I want to go ahead right now and play this clip for everybody that is patiently Patiently holding out there.

02:26:17.000 I'm streaming it off my laptop so the audio is not as good, but I want to thank enough respect and all the folks that are on YouTube doing things like this because that's how we're force multiplying.

02:26:25.000 That's how we're having a gigantic effect out there with people.

02:26:30.000 So I'm going to go ahead and play this video for everybody right now because it is just so vitally important.

02:26:38.000 And then for everybody else, we'll be back live tomorrow, 11 to 3 p.m.

02:26:42.000 Central Standard Time, but when this ends, we'll go back into the audio stream retransmission.

02:26:47.000 So overdrive ends in five minutes, 50 seconds, when this piece is completed.

02:26:51.000 I wanted to draw a picture for listeners out there, a very simple, crude picture that describes effectively the false left-right paradigm.

02:27:09.000 The Republican Party props up the Democratic Party, and the Democratic Party props up the Republican Party.

02:27:16.000 If you had one of the political parties standing on its own, standing on its own, when the wind came along, it would just fall over.

02:27:27.000 When pressure, revolutionary pressure from the population, not liking what's going on, or new groups wanting the power structure, Which is the main source of revolution.

02:27:38.000 Most of it is driven by evil, just like the elite is driven by evil.

02:27:43.000 Very rare to have an altruistic revolution.

02:27:47.000 By itself, a single party system will fall over.

02:27:51.000 Okay?

02:27:52.000 But, if you take the two party systems and you lean them up against each other, this is basically the arch.

02:28:03.000 Their force going together keeps them together and makes it become a very strong stable platform on which they can build their hierarchical new world order system.

02:28:18.000 Okay?

02:28:20.000 So the current two-party system has been dominated and bought up and controlled by the elite that sits atop it.

02:28:27.000 Now the elite with a one-party system would not be balanced on top of one party they would be subject to being toppled being pushed over easily but you put the two parties up against each other they form a royal arch and now it's very hard to separate those two because they're leaning up against each other

02:28:58.000 I mean, this is really simple, but I want to explain this to people.

02:29:02.000 Check it out, folks.

02:29:04.000 Why do you see so many leftists who mean well, like Rage Against the Machine, Tom Morello, or Henry Rollins, who are right on so many issues, but then believe in leftist policies?

02:29:15.000 We need a global carbon tax!

02:29:18.000 But there's an elite funding that.

02:29:20.000 No, no, no, the elite!

02:29:21.000 The big corporations are against it, because the media advertises that big corporations and oil companies are against it.

02:29:27.000 Henry Rollins doesn't know, doesn't have the documents.

02:29:32.000 He doesn't understand that actually that's part of a sophisticated game, that, oh, the big corporations say publicly, we don't want this, it's bad, while they actually fund it.

02:29:41.000 They know the public's awake to the fact that they're corrupt, so the public will be fooled and go and support the agenda.

02:29:49.000 It's, please don't throw me in the briar patch.

02:29:51.000 It's the old briar rabbit situation.

02:29:55.000 Here's the political field.

02:29:57.000 And this is where the population resides.

02:30:00.000 And then we supposedly, through the grassroots, come up into the political party.

02:30:08.000 Okay?

02:30:11.000 And then they lean on each other, as I was saying earlier, and support each other.

02:30:14.000 If they're standing alone, the pressure of revolution or of new power structures will easily topple it and blow it over.

02:30:21.000 But leaning together, it's not going to fall down.

02:30:26.000 Okay?

02:30:27.000 Now, I know that's simple, but let me give you an everyday example of this. 0.93

02:30:31.000 As I said, the left sees all of these evil mainline Republicans who we know are liars, and who the media even exposes as being liars.

02:30:39.000 They see them lying about everything else, so if the Republicans come out and say, we're against a global carbon tax, well then, by God, I'm for a global carbon tax.

02:30:48.000 And so that's how the two sides leaning up against each other Give the other side support.

02:30:59.000 And so, Democrats over here, Republicans over here, Republicans attack Barack Obama.

02:31:07.000 And then the Democrats attack John McCain.

02:31:10.000 And then the population who's down here is trained to see John McCain as representing them personally, as being their daddy, of where their personal power comes from, of their camp, their brand name, their brand of soda, their brand of automobile, Ford or Chevy.

02:31:26.000 And so this is a controlled paradigm.

02:31:29.000 And so we have We have Republicans attacking Democrats, and that's the force against them.

02:31:35.000 And you have Democrats attacking Republicans, and that's the force against them.

02:31:38.000 And really, it's one unit supporting themselves and containing revolution, so that the people who are down here never learn that there is a world outside of This control paradigm.

02:31:56.000 We are locked within the left-right paradigm and then it becomes this huge pageant.

02:32:02.000 This huge distraction where we analyze every every facet of the two political parties never realizing they themselves are simply a front or puppets for a larger power structure.

02:32:13.000 Now this is incredibly simple but that's how this works and then the two parties can limit the issues that are debated to this control paradigm.

02:32:23.000 They can limit The scope of differences, which if you look at it, there's almost no difference between the two.

02:32:30.000 instead of getting the people to look outside the box at the wider world.

02:32:34.000 Okay, folks, that is the end of it.

02:32:43.000 We now go back into the transmission with David Icke and a lot more as I take phone calls and analyze what's happening with the markets.

02:32:50.000 We'll see you back live tomorrow, 11 to 3 p.m.

02:32:53.000 Central.

02:32:54.000 So much has happened today that we decided to go a little bit over 40 minutes, 41 minutes and 10 seconds, to be precise.

02:33:02.000 Get out there and take on the New World Order.

02:33:03.000 Expose who's really behind this video on controlled politics.

02:33:07.000 You may know all about this stuff, but your friends and family don't.

02:33:09.000 So please, take this video, How the Elite Control Politics.

02:33:12.000 It's very simple.

02:33:13.000 It'll be very effective.

02:33:14.000 Get it out to people.

02:33:15.000 Thank you for joining us in the battle for the Republic and free humanity.

Alex Jones Show - October 06, 2008

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