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00:01:19.000 Let's break down the rest of the story.

00:01:24.000 As they say, people can find out more at blackboxvoting.org.

00:01:29.000 They can also go to Amazon and other places and buy the great film, Hacking Democracy.

00:01:33.000 If you don't have HBO, it's airing every couple days on HBO.

00:01:36.000 Watch it and understand it's far worse than even that film covers.

00:01:40.000 But again, we need more Americans like Beth Harris and her cohorts going out digging through the trash. 1.00

00:01:46.000 Always finding bad stuff at these voting systems companies, at the counties where the voting's happening.

00:01:51.000 Go through the fraud we saw in the primary, what you see it building up to now, other facets, other areas we haven't gotten into, and then most importantly, solutions.

00:02:00.000 I mean, the positive news that I've got for everybody here today is this.

00:02:09.000 Ten years ago, you'd see polls, almost no one thought there was election fraud.

00:02:13.000 Now, over 90% in major polls say they know it's a fraud.

00:02:17.000 And so the good news is, the establishment is not selling the lie that they're not engaging in an orchestrated takeover.

00:02:23.000 So before you leave us, let's get into that, or you can tackle that positive thing now, but let's continue to expose what's happening, where you see things going, and then, as I said, solutions.

00:02:32.000 Bev Harris.

00:02:33.000 Yeah. Well, every election that we've looked at, we've found Let me put it this way.

00:02:39.000 The best scenario we find is that we have to disclaim any opinion on the results because there's not enough information and it's not even gettable to find it.

00:02:54.000 And in many situations where we go in, we see actual fraud.

00:02:58.000 They still do it clumsily.

00:03:01.000 But if we don't get control of this situation, it's going to be like inoculating it so that it gets more and more resistant to citizen oversight, where they'll get better at it and they'll be more skillful.

00:03:13.000 You know, we still see things where they have gigantic typos in the wrong date on the memory tape, pull tapes that they rig, you know?

00:03:20.000 There's a tape that they had in Volusia County in 2004 where they accidentally did a typo while they were rigging the tape, and they dated it 16,000 years in the future.

00:03:30.000 You know, and you still see a lot of that now, where it's just so clumsy, you can't believe it.

00:03:35.000 But, trust me, they're going to get better at it, and they're going to get more skilled.

00:03:39.000 And so, we have to ultimately take back control of the whole process, or it's just going to be harder to catch.

00:03:48.000 Like any criminal, you know, they learn from their mistakes.

00:03:52.000 In New Mexico, I was mentioning earlier, with the voter list, they simply handed out the wrong voter list.

00:04:01.000 Voter lists missing lots of names, and then afterwards said, oops.

00:04:05.000 So you gotta watch this.

00:04:06.000 And they still certify elections after they admit they're frauds.

00:04:10.000 Right! Oh, oh, oh, get this.

00:04:12.000 You're gonna love this.

00:04:13.000 Palm Beach County, again, it has problems every election.

00:04:17.000 They lost 3,500 ballots.

00:04:20.000 Now, the machines didn't count.

00:04:22.000 First of all, they had a recount where these two candidates were separated in the primary last month by just 16 votes.

00:04:28.000 Every time they put the ballots through the machines, which were Sequoia machines, they counted differently.

00:04:33.000 But not only that, they lost 3,500 ballots.

00:04:37.000 So, what happens?

00:04:38.000 The people sign off on certifying the election, and because they couldn't figure out what the numbers are, the canvassing board signed off on blank pieces of paper.

00:04:49.000 I mean, these people need to go to jail. 0.91

00:04:52.000 You know, I mean, we would not get away with it.

00:04:55.000 Imagine sending in a form to the IRS and just leaving it blank and signing it.

00:04:59.000 And saying, well, I didn't know the numbers, so I signed it.

00:05:03.000 You know, it's ridiculous what we put up with.

00:05:07.000 But, yeah, pretty much everywhere you look, you find these...

00:05:12.000 You find either one of two things.

00:05:13.000 You find things that you certainly can't explain, and they're completely not acceptable, or You can't even find the information because it's hidden.

00:05:23.000 So, the question you asked is, what can we do about it?

00:05:27.000 Well, we have a system that we're going to be putting out this election.

00:05:33.000 We put the first video out this weekend, this last weekend.

00:05:37.000 It's called Protect the Count.

00:05:39.000 And it is the first effort to really get citizens in the field on election night Looking for things, because one of the things that kind of gets my goat is people call me up and they say, you need to research this, and you need to investigate that.

00:05:54.000 And I'm thinking, you know what, America?

00:05:58.000 If you don't get out there and do the same kinds of things that I'm doing, I'll help you.

00:06:04.000 I'll mentor you.

00:06:06.000 But don't think I'm going to do this for you, because I'm not.

00:06:09.000 We're not going to get our country back unless we go take it back, all of us.

00:06:14.000 Here's an example.

00:06:16.000 You had to put out thousands of Freedom of Information Act requests yourself for the 2004 election.

00:06:25.000 You did it in one night, stayed up until five in the morning, entering those yourself.

00:06:30.000 It's covered in the film.

00:06:32.000 And then you would get back four or five days signed after the election what was clearly, as an auditor, a fake computer tape Right.

00:07:02.000 to the warehouse where it's held, and you catch them with the trash running out suspiciously weeks later, right when you pull up to throw it away, you grab it away, they say no, the bag rips open and it's all gone.

00:07:14.000 And they didn't match!

00:07:20.000 I mean, how incriminating is that?

00:07:23.000 We're different.

00:07:24.000 But that's what I was about to say.

00:07:24.000 Not only in terms of date, but they had different votes on them.

00:07:28.000 That's what I was about to say, is that not only are they giving you a fake tape, you go and catch them and basically tackle them like in a movie, and there are the real tapes showing it was an election fraud.

00:07:39.000 I mean, and then they look so guilty when you're back at the central area.

00:07:44.000 It's just incredible.

00:07:45.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:07:46.000 Yeah, and the thing is, Um, if we get out in the field and if we...

00:07:51.000 What I'm telling people to do this election is, if you're already a credential observer or you're already a poll worker, take another 30 minutes, take a snapshot or a camera and get evidence of what that poll tape result was before it ever left the polling place.

00:08:07.000 That's going to be helpful.

00:08:09.000 Now, if you are not a credential observer and not a poll worker, these things are supposed to be put on the building For a few hours.

00:08:18.000 They're supposed to stay there for 24 hours, but they usually stay there for 6 or 8 hours.

00:08:22.000 So even after the polls close, get your video camera, spend 90 minutes.

00:08:26.000 Don't just sit in front of the TV and think, well, Bev Harris is going to get it.

00:08:30.000 Because I'm telling you right now, I'm not going to get it.

00:08:32.000 I can't be in all those places at once.

00:08:35.000 And we're not going to pull this over the tipping point with just Bev Harris.

00:08:40.000 We've got to have citizens out there and just tell yourself, You know, instead of sitting in front of the TV, I'm going to spend 90 minutes out in the field, I'm going to grab my camera, and I'm going to get copies of what these things were before they were posted.

00:08:52.000 Hey Bev, I've had crazy listeners sue me twice saying, I didn't sue this government person, or I didn't do this investigation.

00:09:00.000 I don't just have them calling me up and emailing me saying, I better do this and that.

00:09:04.000 I have them, and of course it gets thrown out, suing me because I'm not doing enough.

00:09:10.000 Oh yeah.

00:09:12.000 I flip it right back, because I have people call me all the time telling me what I should do.

00:09:17.000 And I'm thinking, okay, I gave up my entire life savings in my last six years and work 100 hours a week.

00:09:22.000 What are you doing, guys?

00:09:24.000 I think that's one of the things we've suffered from in this country, is the citizens have an inferiority complex.

00:09:32.000 We can do this.

00:09:34.000 The most brilliant things that are being done are being done by fishermen.

00:09:38.000 Pottery teachers, real estate agents, construction workers...

00:09:43.000 It's not experts that are really making a difference right now.

00:09:51.000 Which is why you need your video camera.

00:09:59.000 people don't want to do that.

00:10:00.000 Folks, government is so corrupt.

00:10:01.000 You've got to have that video.

00:10:02.000 Government is so corrupt that nine times out of ten, if you just go watch them anytime.

00:10:07.000 I mean, every time I walk in the Capitol, there's payoffs in front of me with cash.

00:10:11.000 I mean, the...

00:10:13.000 Criminals have taken over, so they're operating like it's nothing. 1.00

00:10:17.000 And it helped to get video.

00:10:19.000 It's the videotape taken by an Austin citizen, Kathleen Wynn, in Ohio, in that tape, Hacking Democracy, that resulted in two women being sent to a year and a half in prison.

00:10:32.000 The videotape, that's all it was.

00:10:34.000 Without the video, no conviction.

00:10:37.000 So, the videotape, I cannot stress enough how important it is.

00:10:41.000 Tell folks what the women did. 0.99

00:10:42.000 Well, Kathleen Wynn, she went up there, and she was asking questions about this recount they did, and she asked how they chose the random poll of the 3% of the precincts, and they said, our random is our random.

00:10:56.000 We always select it.

00:10:57.000 Which, of course, is a violation of state law.

00:11:00.000 Well, they selected it, and they made sure that what they selected was specific areas that happened to match, as opposed to all the other areas.

00:11:10.000 And then, when those matched, they said, OK, no more recount.

00:11:13.000 Everything matched.

00:11:14.000 So they rigged the recount.

00:11:15.000 But she caught them on tape doing it.

00:11:17.000 And that is what, eventually, two years later, led to them being sentenced to a year and a half in prison.

00:11:23.000 Well, by the way, these county clerks and people, most of them are hardcore operatives and are in with the good old boy club.

00:11:31.000 And the public is like, well, it's such a nice old lady.

00:11:34.000 I mean, ladies in general. 1.00

00:11:35.000 Oh, yeah!

00:11:37.000 Thank you.

00:11:38.000 That's right.

00:11:39.000 I hear that all the time, too.

00:11:41.000 People say, well, my election official is really nice and I trust her.

00:11:45.000 And I'm like, you are missing the boat.

00:11:47.000 It isn't about I trust her or I don't.

00:11:50.000 Can you see what she's doing?

00:11:53.000 Period. If you can't see.

00:11:55.000 We need to take a page from what financial auditors say.

00:11:58.000 When financial auditors can't see the transactions, they don't say, but I think the person is nice.

00:12:05.000 You never read that in an audit.

00:12:07.000 What they say is, There's no basis for confidence in the results.

00:12:12.000 We disclaim any opinion on the accuracy.

00:12:16.000 In other words, if you can't see it, then the only proper response is to disclaim any opinion on the accuracy and to declare that there's no basis for confidence.

00:12:27.000 Bev Harris is our guest.

00:12:32.000 Vicki Karp and others here in Austin, Texas.

00:12:34.000 She heard my show I guess four or five years ago.

00:12:36.000 Yeah. Or longer and we were covering election fraud and she didn't really believe it but she went and checked into it and found out that it was true and now she's had a big effect and there's so many other people out there taking action.

00:12:48.000 What are some other things people can do in this election?

00:12:52.000 Well here's something.

00:12:54.000 Especially if you're a credentialed observer, and you can get credentials, and it doesn't have to be a major party.

00:12:59.000 It can be any of the parties that are on the ballot, so Libertarian, Green, any of those.

00:13:05.000 Check and see.

00:13:06.000 Now, they seal up these ballot boxes, and they seal the memory cards, and the seals are supposed to have a number.

00:13:11.000 They never match.

00:13:12.000 They're broken.

00:13:13.000 They're missing.

00:13:14.000 There's only one reason for the seal to be broken and missing, folks.

00:13:18.000 Just picture it.

00:13:19.000 Don't worry about the memory card.

00:13:20.000 Yeah, they have a seal on the memory card and the bag that holds the memory card and it's missing.

00:13:24.000 Think of it like old-fashioned ballot boxes.

00:13:27.000 What does it mean if the ballot box comes in and the seal has been removed?

00:13:34.000 There's not that many explanations for it other than somebody got into it.

00:13:39.000 So, one of the things that people can do is actually just go check and see whether the seals are intact.

00:13:45.000 And whether they match, and whether they're broken, and document it when they haven't been.

00:13:51.000 Because part of what we need to do now is gather this hard evidence in more locations so that we can throw this rotten system out.

00:14:02.000 And you're right.

00:14:03.000 You said one thing that was really important.

00:14:06.000 What I see that I'm optimistic about that's different in 2008 than it was in 2004.

00:14:11.000 In 2004, everybody was...

00:14:13.000 nobody was listening to me.

00:14:15.000 I was talking to all these highfalutin characters with the campaigns and so forth and they weren't listening at all.

00:14:21.000 This year, people get it.

00:14:23.000 There's something wrong with this system.

00:14:26.000 And the New York Times, you can't get more mainstream than that, interviewed a member of the Election Assistance Commission, you can't get more government than that, and the Election Assistance Commission admitted, we will be voting on machines that are defective.

00:14:41.000 And the New York Times even wrote, and it can't be fixed before the election.

00:14:46.000 But by the way, they're spinning it that they're defective.

00:14:50.000 No, they're doing what they're meant to do, carry out organized, secured, sequestered fraud.

00:14:58.000 And for folks that think that this just started 10 years ago or 8 years ago in 2000, before After the election, you would hear, well, wait a minute, this county really went for this person, or this state really went for that person, but Voter News Services, the secretive...

00:15:11.000 Group of top media people, they would just announce who had won, and over and over again it was fraud, and then that was proven.

00:15:20.000 And so because the public was exposing that, that made them move in with these military industrial complex front companies, that's who they are, with young CIA guys with shaved heads guarding the facilities, and that's who it is.

00:15:32.000 I've talked to the Colliers and their daughter and others, and I've seen it myself.

00:15:35.000 And so they tried to move in with something they could control easier.

00:15:38.000 People think, well, it's just the touchscreen or the purely electronic that are built for somebody to hack in and change 5,000 machines in 60 seconds or whatever, as they're designed to do with no record.

00:15:48.000 But then it's the bubble type.

00:15:51.000 It's the Scantron.

00:15:52.000 Those are centrally tabulated.

00:15:54.000 This has been going on a long time, and that's why you can have, on every issue, the people 80-90% against both parties You know, you can have 1,000 calls to every call for the bailout, but still they pass it, because the system and the politicians, and I've talked to high-level ones, they know.

00:16:12.000 And they know...

00:16:13.000 Oh yeah, there's no consequences.

00:16:15.000 Oh yeah, they know.

00:16:15.000 Yeah, the people are not in control.

00:16:17.000 I mean, we have to, unfortunately, get past our rosy and happy view of what we thought we were, because we aren't.

00:16:26.000 And then, we have to do what Americans are so good at, which is roll up our sleeves and tackle this monster, and make sure that we get control back.

00:16:35.000 And you know what?

00:16:36.000 People have told me, well, I think if I don't get my candidate in this election, then it's all over.

00:16:41.000 It's like, no.

00:16:41.000 No, you don't give up!

00:16:43.000 It's not about what candidate gets in.

00:16:45.000 We have to take back control, or we will always be at the mercy of You know, some magical, some candidate who comes and waves a magic wand.

00:16:56.000 Is that really what we want?

00:16:57.000 That is not freedom.

00:16:58.000 No, it's about going the distance.

00:17:00.000 And, you know, I've had the idea for more than a decade to have paper ballots, and the way you get that is you sign a petition to, you know, basically bring it to a vote at the city council, at your level.

00:17:16.000 And in there you have it funded to have this special election be done with paper ballots.

00:17:21.000 And so then it's funded, and then you watch it, and then everybody goes out and monitors for fraud, and it'll be there.

00:17:27.000 They don't want to give up control.

00:17:29.000 You know, they're in there stealing as fast as they can, folks.

00:17:31.000 Corruption's endemic.

00:17:32.000 It's everywhere.

00:17:33.000 I mean, this country is run by criminals from the top to the bottom, and they're only bringing more of their crooks in.

00:17:39.000 And they told Congress last week, don't vote for this, martial law be declared.

00:17:42.000 I had the Congressman on.

00:17:43.000 I mean, this is really happening.

00:17:45.000 What do you think of the idea of having a recall of a governor?

00:17:50.000 A county-by-county recall of the fraudulent machines?

00:17:54.000 Oh, I think that's marvelous.

00:17:55.000 And you know, Sarasota County, Florida, the citizens did get it on the ballot, and they won.

00:18:00.000 And they have optical scans there now, which now they don't work either.

00:18:04.000 But it was interesting because, oh my goodness, they were fought at every level, but they won.

00:18:10.000 We can do this thing, but we first have to get our Get the rosy-colored glasses off.

00:18:16.000 That's right.

00:18:16.000 And be able to have the courage to look.

00:18:19.000 And that's why I want people out in the field on election night.

00:18:22.000 And by the way, you will be told that you can't videotape.

00:18:25.000 So what you do then is you videotape them telling you you can't videotape.

00:18:30.000 And you say, why are you hiding the information?

00:18:34.000 And then you put it on YouTube and you show there, you know, anybody who tells you you can't get evidence of your own election needs to be exposed.

00:18:43.000 Well, also, state and federal laws say that you can videotape, and the press is supposed to have access to that.

00:18:49.000 But bottom line here, final segment of Bev Harris coming up, they know that we know.

00:18:56.000 And we have to stop them.

00:18:58.000 The government is illegitimate.

00:19:00.000 Period. It is completely run by foreign banks.

00:19:02.000 Period. Bev Harris, fraud investigator, is our guest.

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00:22:12.000 Final segment with Bev Harris.

00:22:18.000 We've had a lot of requests to re-air the interview with Governor Jesse Ventura last week.

00:22:23.000 So we're going to re-air that in the fourth hour today.

00:22:27.000 Look, a lot of people like cliches.

00:22:29.000 They say, Alex Jones is just negative.

00:22:32.000 Why don't you be positive?

00:22:33.000 Like I'm an eastern yogi, and if I imagine something, oh, I decide the voting machines are good and my vote counts.

00:22:42.000 It's, you know, no, no.

00:22:43.000 That's delusion.

00:22:46.000 We're actually very positive.

00:22:47.000 By admitting how bad things are, that's the only chance we've got about developing solutions to turn it around.

00:22:54.000 And Bev, I guess you've gotten that over the years, too, though.

00:22:57.000 You've been proven completely right.

00:22:58.000 And why don't you just be positive?

00:23:00.000 Why don't you stop being an anti-American?

00:23:02.000 This is America.

00:23:03.000 Everything's fine.

00:23:04.000 Even though it's been proven to be a fraud and triplicate.

00:23:07.000 To keep my balance in this, I have a sense of humor.

00:23:11.000 And I recommend other people do, too. 0.99

00:23:14.000 And people, they tell me not to laugh about the ridiculous stupidity, unbelievableness that we see. 0.99

00:23:22.000 I feel like, you know what, if you don't, if you can't laugh, and you can't have the courage to look, you can never solve the problem. 0.98

00:23:29.000 So it actually is just, you know, doctors in an emergency room sometimes laugh too, because otherwise they lose their sense of balance.

00:23:38.000 And by the way, one other thing, if folks cannot get out in the field, don't have a video camera.

00:23:45.000 You know, we don't do this often, but I will tell you that black box voting won't be around for another four years if we don't get Yeah, it's not cheap.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, it's not.

00:24:07.000 I was about to say, for me to just make a film and fly four or five places with two or three people, I mean, this is, even staying in hotels that aren't that nice, it is bankrupting.

00:24:19.000 And go to blackboxvoting.org, buy the books, buy the videos, she's written books and put them out for free.

00:24:25.000 We have this tendency to give it out for free, and because it's free, people don't even appreciate it.

00:24:29.000 The point is, go there, donate.

00:24:31.000 Bev Harris, I want to have you back up again in the next three weeks before the election, and I want to have you Thank you.

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00:26:14.000 That film exposes the fact that the government carried out the attacks, and if you call that negative, that's fine. 0.54

00:26:19.000 You know, there's nothing I can do here other than tell you it's the facts, and we're not safe.

00:26:24.000 You can deny it all day, but they still carried out the attacks, and they're still in power, and they're going to carry out other crimes, like controlled financial implosions and other things.

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00:27:19.000 So does he.

00:27:20.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:27:24.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:27:29.000 Music by Ben Thede.

00:27:34.000 Well, I'm really honored to have him with us for the next 60 minutes.

00:27:38.000 He is former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura, star of Hollywood alongside Arnold Schwarzenegger and many others.

00:27:46.000 Two of my favorite movies, The Predator and, of course, The Running Man.

00:27:51.000 And he is going to be with us again for the...

00:27:55.000 with, sir.

00:27:57.000 Uh, you know, I don't know, really.

00:28:00.000 I guess the economy right now Well, let me throw in my two cents.

00:28:27.000 They are terrorizing the public with the president and others saying, Okay, well, you know, I'll trust you on that one.

00:28:54.000 You know, I've been involved in other things the last week or so.

00:28:57.000 If that's the case, then I fully do not support the bailout, and I think it's ridiculous because this bailout, if it indeed happens, should come with so many rules and regulations that it's as sound as anything you can imagine because you can't be just taking money and handing people blank checks and telling them to fix it because that leaves virtually no accountability.

00:29:20.000 It's kind of like how the war was run in Iraq.

00:29:24.000 We've certainly seen a lot of that.

00:29:26.000 We were lied about the war.

00:29:27.000 We were lied to about Well, you know, I guess the best answer to that, Alex, is that we've forgotten that the Constitution today is a thing of the past.

00:29:52.000 It's a document that doesn't exist anymore, which says there will be a separation of powers into three separate divisions.

00:29:59.000 And as I look at the country today, I see that that isn't happening at all, you know, that we aren't a separation of power anymore.

00:30:08.000 There seems to be no checks and balances whatsoever, which is what the forefathers tried to put in when they created the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, was that making it a system of checks and balances the problem is We've allowed people.

00:30:24.000 I mean, I kind of laughed the other day when I heard Ralph Nader refer to George Bush as King George.

00:30:30.000 And a socialist.

00:30:32.000 I don't think Ralph is that far off with being able to say King George.

00:30:38.000 Well, I agree.

00:30:38.000 He's also pointed out that George Bush is more socialist than any president we've ever had.

00:30:43.000 He's just giving it all to the elite.

00:30:45.000 Right. Oh yeah, completely.

00:30:48.000 You know, this is a bailout of And their argument is that these are the people that provide the jobs so that it will have a trickled-down effect to all of us, which I have to assume will be some correctness to it.

00:31:04.000 But again, how do you bail out the top and trust what they're going to do?

00:31:10.000 You know, clearly, I find it very interesting that the very people that wanted to deregulate everything are the ones now leading the socialist bailout.

00:31:21.000 Absolutely. Governor Jesse Ventura will also talk about his book that's been on the New York Times bestseller list, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.

00:31:29.000 He is our guest for the rest of the hour after this quick break.

00:31:31.000 Stay with us.

00:31:36.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

00:31:43.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

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00:34:37.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:34:44.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:34:47.000 Music.

00:34:52.000 Governor Jesse Ventura is our guest for the rest of the hour.

00:34:56.000 There's so many issues to be discussed and to talk about.

00:35:00.000 Finishing up with the bailout, you know, the internationalists that run the banking system created these trillions in derivatives.

00:35:07.000 They tied it to our bank accounts, our 401ks.

00:35:09.000 Now they're saying, come in and invest in this, or basically it's all going to implode.

00:35:15.000 And these are the same interests that have all been moving offshore.

00:35:19.000 And so, just in closing, any other thoughts on what's currently happening with the bailout that they are set to vote on in the Senate today, Governor?

00:35:28.000 Well, you know, again, we have to watch.

00:35:31.000 My thing to tell all the American people is be vigilant, man.

00:35:35.000 If you're not holding people's feet to the fire, you're going to get bad government.

00:35:39.000 And that's the problem in this country as a whole, is that we sit back, we live in our own little worlds, and we don't pay attention to what's going on with the nation.

00:35:49.000 And then by the time it catches us, we're basically caught with our pants down because we haven't paid attention at all.

00:35:56.000 You know, maybe the good thing that will come out of this whole bailout issue is that it will finally get the American people to rise up, take their heads out of the sand and start paying attention, Alex.

00:36:08.000 Yeah, I don't want to go back to ancient history, but I sure wish you were running for Senate.

00:36:12.000 I don't blame you for not doing that because you've got some other Well, I've got possibly two,

00:36:36.000 three pilots in the hopper, but I always like to tell people that I don't discuss Great detail until the first check clears the bank.

00:36:46.000 That's because these are TV shows, you know, and I'll be straight up front.

00:36:50.000 I do get paid when I do pilots, like anyone else.

00:36:55.000 You're not a communist.

00:36:57.000 You know, you gotta earn a living.

00:37:00.000 But the pilot that we're doing now with the True TV Network, which is the formerly court TV, is going to deal with conspiracies.

00:37:07.000 Because conspiracies have fascinated me for going on 20 to 25 years or better now, starting off with the murder of John F. Kennedy and watching it evolve into everything else and now into the 9-11 conspiracies.

00:37:23.000 So I think it's very intriguing stuff.

00:37:27.000 And even for people that don't believe or don't want to or whatever it may be, it's still very compelling and interesting.

00:37:35.000 And to me, it's truly better than anything like Tom Clancy could write or anything like that.

00:37:42.000 because in many ways real life has more intrigue and mystery than what anyone could make up in their own minds and write it down as a fiction writer.

00:37:51.000 You know, Alex, I have my own imagination, so I don't really need to see somebody else's imagination or read about it.

00:37:58.000 But I do like, I love history, and it disturbs me greatly when history is not recorded correctly or history is misled because then generations from now people will never get a clear picture over what went on.

00:38:14.000 And so, you know, delving into conspiracies, I think is just great intrigue and great dramatic television.

00:38:22.000 And not only will it hopefully inform you, hopefully will entertain you at the same time.

00:38:29.000 I know that the networks are very interested in this because I've been approached many times with similar Similar ideas by the networks, delving into the secret meetings, infiltrating them, basically exposing what's going on underneath the rocks of government and corporations.

00:38:48.000 And I can't think of a better person than the former underwater demolition and Navy SEAL individual and a former governor out there running around covering all of this.

00:39:03.000 Wait, Alex, let's not cheat me either.

00:39:06.000 Now that Sarah Palin's out there, I'm also a former mayor.

00:39:09.000 Absolutely. And former radio talk show host and movie star and professional wrestler.

00:39:16.000 I'm a professional wrestler.

00:39:17.000 Well, you know, that's going to be the intrigue of the show, as I said in the press release.

00:39:24.000 You know, I've been a mayor, I've been a governor, now I'm going to get a chance to be a detective and to be able to go But going after harder issues?

00:39:54.000 I'm going to go ask questions, people, and I think my credibility precedes me to where they can't take me lightly, and I'm going to go simply ask questions.

00:40:04.000 And Alex, when I was going through underwater demolition training, when we got to second phase, which was land warfare and demolition when I went through.

00:40:13.000 I had an instructor back then during the demolition phase at San Clemente Island, and this instructor was a chief warrant officer, and he impressed me very strongly, with no reservations whatsoever, that there is no such thing as a dumb question, especially when you work with demolition.

00:40:34.000 Well, that's what I've seen,

00:40:54.000 Mainstreet. Simply that there is no dumb question, and every question deserves an honest answer to it.

00:41:07.000 So, I'm going to be out and about asking some, you know, solid questions that I certainly don't consider dumb, and I don't think most people in America would either.

00:41:18.000 And we'll see what kind of answers we can get from people.

00:41:21.000 Well, that's what I was going to say, is that that's what, quote, conspiracy theory is, is the mainstream media and the dominant corporate culture.

00:41:28.000 Anytime you say, Hey, I think this bailout might not be a good idea.

00:41:32.000 They've been calling that a conspiracy theory.

00:41:35.000 Or, you know, I think that we need to question government more, or have more checks and balances, or there might be some corruption in government.

00:41:42.000 They call it a conspiracy theory.

00:41:43.000 So basically, anybody questioning the official paradigm is called a conspiracy theorist.

00:41:50.000 And we've seen the same thing, you know, going back to Galileo, when he said that the Earth was orbiting the sun, not the sun orbiting the Earth.

00:41:57.000 You know, they called him a heretic.

00:42:00.000 And isn't that what's so suspicious about 9-11, is that you just ask questions and they stonewall and act so suspiciously? 0.99

00:42:07.000 Well, and to me, that's the question we're going to try to pursue.

00:42:14.000 Why, if what they've told us is true, then, you know, there's that old quote, the truth will set you free.

00:42:21.000 Well, why would you have any fear of telling the truth?

00:42:25.000 Alex, I'd love to tell this story, if I may.

00:42:27.000 When I was running for governor, at the time, it was very much in the early part, where there were six or seven candidates, and they were holding debates throughout the state of Minnesota.

00:42:36.000 We're much different than Texas, where in Texas you get one debate.

00:42:40.000 Up in Minnesota, generally, you might get 12 to 13 of them.

00:42:45.000 And when we were at this one particular debate early on, we were seated alphabetical, so naturally I'm over on the far side.

00:42:53.000 And I'll never forget, all the seven or eight other participants in the debate came in with stacks of papers and spin papers and all this stuff, and I sat down with nothing.

00:43:05.000 And I remember there was a black woman, a civilian sitting to my left, and she quietly handed over to me a legal patent pen.

00:43:13.000 And I looked at her and I handed it back and I said, no thanks.

00:43:17.000 And she said to me, well, don't you think you'll need that?

00:43:21.000 And I whispered back to her, I said, when you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory.

00:43:27.000 And she looked at me and smiled and nodded.

00:43:29.000 She fully understood what I just said to her.

00:43:32.000 So in these debates, I didn't need all that stuff because, in essence, every question I was going to be asked, I would simply tell the truth.

00:43:40.000 And if you do that, you don't need a good memory.

00:43:43.000 And so that's what we're taking forward here.

00:43:47.000 And people who will stonewall 9-11 Well, Governor, I mean, take the new NIS report.

00:44:01.000 They have now retracted their previous five reasons Building 7 fell, that 47-story structure, for those that don't know, that was hit by nothing that day.

00:44:11.000 And, uh, they've retracted that it was bad building construction.

00:44:15.000 They have, uh, retracted that a fuel oil tank blew up and did it.

00:44:19.000 They have retracted that the North Tower fell and gouged out 25% of the south face of Building 7. And now they're saying a new phenomenon.

00:44:27.000 This is like seeing a leprechaun in your backyard is a new phenomenon.

00:44:31.000 Never before seen, thermal expansion did this with 1,200, 1,500 degrees, uh, cool fires made it symmetrically fall.

00:44:40.000 So, They're just counting on the public, not looking at the evidence, and I'm here to tell everybody, and I want your take on this, the new NIST report has completely and totally backfired on them.

00:44:52.000 Well, the last report I saw, and correct me if I'm wrong, the last report I saw from them on Building 7 stated that they said that the fuel in the building, the diesel, was not responsible.

00:45:06.000 They said the fire that destroyed the building Yes!

00:45:13.000 And they say it's never happened before.

00:45:15.000 That was their final line on the report that I saw.

00:45:18.000 And, Alex, I looked at it and started laughing.

00:45:21.000 I thought, wait, how could they possibly?

00:45:24.000 They're telling me that papers and furniture could cause a steel-structured, girdered building to uniformly collapse in seven seconds.

00:45:35.000 Alex, if that's the case, then what is being done?

00:45:39.000 Because clearly, in that era of time, when that building was built, there were probably hundreds of others built throughout our country and the world, shouldn't there be steps taken to ensure publicization Well, let me tell you.

00:46:05.000 federal agencies then put out new guidelines in the last month telling them to build buildings differently, and major engineering firms and groups are now suing the federal government saying this isn't true, this isn't reality, and they're saying if this is the case, then a Bic lighter would be able to burn down a Bic lighter.

00:46:26.000 Well, and that's the truth.

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00:50:48.000 Well, the part I took home from that more than anything is also the attitude I'm going to bring to this show, so that all your listeners will be clear on this.

00:51:04.000 Gosell Washington turns and says this word.

00:51:08.000 He says, explain it to me like I'm a six-year-old.

00:51:11.000 Do you remember that from the film?

00:51:13.000 Yes. He makes that statement, explain this to me like I'm a six-year-old.

00:51:18.000 Well, that's the aspect I'm taking forward on this.

00:51:22.000 Explain it to me like I'm a six-year-old.

00:51:25.000 So that we will all be able to hopefully clearly understand what these people are talking about.

00:51:30.000 Because I think for the most part, most of us feel that if it were explained to a six-year-old, we would be able to graduate.

00:51:38.000 aspect. Well, I want to get more into 9-11.

00:51:40.000 Let's talk about, you told me that it was great meeting Karen Johnson out in Phoenix when you were there visiting, when you went to the 9-11 truth event and spoke there.

00:51:52.000 And then I love the video of the media trying to attack you, and you throw it right back at them and say, you explained it to me, because the official story doesn't answer any of the Well, I'll tell you, there's some dedicated people is the first thing I want to say.

00:52:19.000 Senator Karen Johnson, to me, shows tremendous courage because she's a current elected official who is making no bones about the fact that she feels that the 9-11 investigation was completely botched and that there certainly should be a second investigation done, even though at this point in time it would be exceptionally difficult because, as I stated earlier, there's no evidence.

00:52:45.000 it's all been destroyed.

00:52:46.000 So nobody can go there and get anything scientific.

00:52:50.000 You know, it isn't made available to anybody.

00:52:53.000 But the people out there are super dedicated people, and they're coming from all walks of life, which is the thing that I'm really noticing and that really makes me feel good.

00:53:05.000 Not only do you have a strong group of young people whom you would expect.

00:53:10.000 You know, I grew up in the 60s, so I know what it's like for young people to vote from the status quo.

00:53:17.000 I grew up in the generation that we used to say, don't trust anyone over 30. You know, I remember that famous quote.

00:53:24.000 And, uh, uh, you know, so you've naturally got young people that are heavily involved, but then there were also professional people out there who are involved, people who you wouldn't expect to be involved, who have taken time and studied it a little bit.

00:53:40.000 And I think that's really the thing that needs to happen in this country.

00:53:43.000 We've got to break away.

00:53:45.000 I had a guy the other day just look at me and smile and he's at the golf club and he said, I don't believe any of that conspiracy stuff.

00:53:53.000 And I looked at him and I said, well, what knowledge do you actually have?

00:53:57.000 What have you done to study it at all?

00:54:00.000 Are you simply going on what the television has told you and what the government has told you and you just blindly accept that today?

00:54:08.000 And this guy was a Vietnam veteran, Alex.

00:54:10.000 I would expect him to be a little bit more cynical, you know, in light of the fact that I don't know.

00:54:44.000 That isn't the attitude to have, and that's not going to do us any good, because, you know, you can stick your hole in the head, but it doesn't mean things are going to go away and they're going to be right.

00:54:53.000 The only way that happens is by people being involved, paying attention, and doing a little detective work on their own, and understanding that you cannot trust the mainstream media today, and you cannot trust our government today.

00:55:09.000 Absolutely, and it's the denial that there could be corruption or there could be a problem that has allowed the corruption to take over.

00:55:16.000 History shows you're always going to have corrupt groups and criminal organizations and elites trying to take over and set up empires and abuse the average person's rights and liberty and property.

00:55:27.000 And so to deny that any of that exists in history or in this country is the greatest folly, and we're about to reap the whirlwind On that front, Governor, we're going to break in a moment, and we'll get back on air.

00:55:43.000 Okay, Alex, let me throw this out for a minute.

00:55:45.000 The other thing I find so mind-boggling in this whole affair of 9-11 is the fact that we will so quickly believe that 19 Islamic radicals with box cutters could do what happened that day, but we totally throw out that us on the Christian side could never do something like that. 0.89

00:56:07.000 Oh, that's a great point.

00:56:08.000 In fact, let's keep talking about 9-11, then I want to get into your book, and I want to talk about what's coming up in Austin with yourself and William Nelson and I, and a lot more, and maybe take a few calls at 1-800-259-9231.

00:56:23.000 We'll be right back in three minutes.

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00:59:50.000 We're going to get back into 9-11 in just a moment with Jesse Ventura.

00:59:53.000 And, yes, I'm going to take a few calls for the governor.

00:59:56.000 I'll come up in about 15 minutes.

00:59:57.000 1-800-259-9231. Kind of a grab bag, see what type of questions you have for the good governor.

01:00:05.000 We'll talk about his book, too, before he leaves us.

01:00:08.000 And he is coming to Austin.

01:00:09.000 I really look forward to that.

01:00:11.000 It doesn't get any cooler than getting to hang out with Jesse Ventura.

01:00:13.000 I'm really excited about it.

01:00:15.000 Ann Willie Nelson at the same time and a bunch of others that I'm not at liberty to talk about that are going to be at this event.

01:00:21.000 It just blows me away that this is actually happening.

01:00:23.000 But so Jesse doesn't think I'm kidding him.

01:00:25.000 I've got his email.

01:00:26.000 I guess I can send it to him.

01:00:27.000 Here is the trailer from the TV show they worked on similarly.

01:00:31.000 But I think his is going to make it through.

01:00:33.000 I hope it does.

01:00:34.000 It's about a minute and a half long.

01:00:35.000 Called American Conspiracy.

01:00:40.000 These are the stories you hear in whispered conversations.

01:00:44.000 We're both in skull and bone with the secret society.

01:00:47.000 It's so sick that we can't talk about it.

01:00:52.000 Some would think it wouldn't take very long for that to happen, dealing with people like this.

01:00:56.000 These are the stories that offer different explanations.

01:01:00.000 These mothers have fed every monster you can imagine, and I do this because I believe in this country!

01:01:05.000 They are the stories.

01:01:07.000 That must be told.

01:01:11.000 Suspicion of our politicians is not new.

01:01:15.000 But the number of citizens who distrust the government today has reached an alarming new height.

01:01:21.000 In New York City, nearly two-thirds of the population believes there is more to 9-11 than has been told.

01:01:29.000 I believe the title was Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States. 0.69

01:01:34.000 But where can viewers turn?

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01:01:49.000 Okay. He asks the questions others won't consider.

01:01:53.000 Have you been there for the ceremony with the cremation of Carys?

01:01:57.000 Frankly, I don't think that's something I'm going to be talking about.

01:02:01.000 He explores the places others only talk about.

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01:02:37.000 because it is a real all right it goes on from there but uh...

01:02:43.000 uh... governor and her what do you think of that europe you've got the work that ready to walk you know my wife last night i was told her about this and she's got so excited because i i have frankly i think you're going to do twenty times better because you're going to be the producer and i know you don't want to give us uh...

01:03:00.000 i mean too many hands but but even gets picked up i mean i what the water some of the areas you're gonna get into obviously jfk Isn't that what originally woke you up more than 30 years ago?

01:03:11.000 You know, I have the tape of E. Howard Hunt saying he ran the operation.

01:03:32.000 I have the video.

01:03:32.000 Well, there's things of that nature, and then there's other stuff, too, out there that I will get into.

01:03:38.000 But JFK, you know, it could lead us to many, many different things that, you know, people have questions about and that there are conspiracies of.

01:03:51.000 You know, there's a lot of interesting things that deal around science.

01:03:55.000 Scientology and that religion. 1.00

01:03:56.000 Hey, how about you crash the Scientology church or crash Skull and Bones?

01:04:01.000 Oh, my God.

01:04:05.000 In order to crash Skull and Bones, I might need a whole SEAL platoon.

01:04:09.000 Hey, Jesse, listen, on air, I'm going to say it.

01:04:13.000 Give it to the top of the ground.

01:04:15.000 I want to be a sidekick.

01:04:18.000 Alex, wait a minute.

01:04:20.000 I want to ask you something.

01:04:22.000 Skull and Bones.

01:04:23.000 Now that's like the secret society at Yale University.

01:04:26.000 Yeah, it's a homoerotic, uh, Germanic death cult where they, well, Robert De Niro got it right in his, uh, Uh, big film, uh, The Good Shepherd, and they do satanic rituals. 0.70

01:04:38.000 I've actually snuck into one of their meetings that they had separately in California.

01:04:44.000 The skull and bones, that's what they do?

01:04:46.000 Absolutely. Well, isn't, isn't George Bush part of that?

01:04:51.000 Yes, it's very Christian.

01:04:54.000 That's what I'm trying to figure out, how can that be Christian? 1.00

01:04:57.000 Well, let me tell ya, Bohemian Grove that I snuck into, I'm sure you've heard of that in Northern California, Well, I don't know nothing about that, but it's hypocritical if it's true.

01:05:20.000 Governor, do you have a computer in front of you?

01:05:22.000 I love doing the Google game. 0.99

01:05:23.000 Google, porn star, porn star, male porn star services moguls. 0.98

01:05:29.000 And you'll be looking at mainstream newspapers. 0.99

01:05:34.000 Remember Jeff Gannon, the ball-headed gay madam who was in the White House press conferences? 0.97

01:05:42.000 And who was signed in over a hundred times past midnight at the White House? 0.96

01:05:46.000 No, I don't think about any of that.

01:05:51.000 You know what?

01:05:53.000 You better let me just stick to what I know about and focus on that.

01:05:57.000 If you get me off track with all this other stuff, I won't know whether I'm coming or going.

01:06:01.000 I know, well listen, you know a lot about stuff I don't know about, and you're in a very powerful position, and kind of like two years ago when I gave you Terror Storm, I would love to just be an unofficial advisor, and just, I mean, I could send you so much stuff that's admitted, sir.

01:06:17.000 Well, like I said, we're gonna do this first pilot, and then we go, let's get this one on the air, and once this one's on the air, Hopefully we will be brought into series and at that point we'll be looking for a lot more stuff to educate and entertain the people on.

01:06:34.000 Well, I publicly groveled to Lord Ventura.

01:06:39.000 Lord Ventura!

01:06:41.000 As I said, Alex, we gotta do it one step at a time.

01:06:44.000 No, I know, I know.

01:06:45.000 Right now, my focus is to do this pilot and make it as good, entertaining, to give people knowledge and to make people question some things.

01:06:56.000 Give them enough facts to the ability to raise some questions and ask them and not be afraid to do it.

01:07:03.000 We're supposed to be in a free country.

01:07:05.000 Let's always remember that.

01:07:06.000 We're supposed to have the First Amendment here, where we can talk and again, and I know this has been said many times, but people need to always remember, the First Amendment is to protect unpopular speech.

01:07:20.000 Not popular.

01:07:21.000 Because popular speech doesn't need protection.

01:07:24.000 Unpopular does.

01:07:27.000 Well, Well, you know, we've got to wait and see.

01:07:54.000 Let's see the chips fall and let's see the education take place.

01:07:59.000 Hopefully that's what the show will help to do.

01:08:03.000 As I said, I've got my fingers crossed that the courage will be there and that it will get on the air.

01:08:11.000 The True Network, I think, has seen, somebody told me, 90 million homes today or 100 million homes.

01:08:17.000 It's 91 million now.

01:08:18.000 That starts the ball rolling.

01:08:21.000 It's one of the biggest cable system shows and networks out there, and I tell you, they're lucky to have you.

01:08:28.000 I'm just so excited about it.

01:08:29.000 I mean, Jesse Ventura, conspiracy investigations, it doesn't get any better than that.

01:08:34.000 Getting back into 9-11, there are so many facets to it, but some of the areas that they can't ignore is the White House lying and saying, we never heard of plans to fly planes into buildings when there had been hundreds of government drills and plans, and they'd even had Operation Bojinka and other cases where things like this had developed.

01:08:52.000 We also have the war games that morning, just like on 7th.

01:08:57.000 What gets me the most, Alex, is when I watch Condoleezza Rice testify in state.

01:09:03.000 we had no idea they would take planes and use them as missiles into buildings.

01:09:07.000 And then you find out that yes, they did.

01:09:10.000 They even had, as you said, practiced things That that had happened within the government and what would they do?

01:09:19.000 How could they sit back and look at us and say they were so naive that they didn't have any idea that this type of situation could happen?

01:09:29.000 It insults my intelligence, Alex.

01:09:31.000 I'll tell you what insults my intelligence.

01:09:33.000 I'm in Austin, Texas, the main networks in Burnsville, Minnesota, and we have problems about three times a year, and it's when we have somebody big like Jesse Ventura.

01:09:42.000 In fact, the last time it happened was when he was on, and you probably can't hear it, Governor, but somebody's cutting into the line.

01:09:47.000 John, I want to switch to the other ISDN right now.

01:09:50.000 Okay? I don't know if you're hearing that crackling, but...

01:09:53.000 Okay, it's switched.

01:09:54.000 Yeah, Governor, a lot of weird stuff going on here on our end, but I'm sure it's just a coincidence that somebody cuts our digital lines only when you're on the show.

01:10:05.000 My end, too, because, you know, I wrote about that in my book.

01:10:09.000 You know, the house that I lived in at the time I was governor, it turned out that there's pretty big, strong evidence that my lines were tapped there.

01:10:19.000 Now, Governor...

01:10:20.000 And after all, Alex, let's remember, our Democrats gave the President the ability to do that again.

01:10:26.000 Well, did you hear...

01:10:27.000 When I was in...

01:10:28.000 You probably didn't, but it was in the Denver Post.

01:10:30.000 When I was in Denver for the DNC, I was going to meet Uh, with Cindy Sheehan, and she was doing a big event with Ralph Nader, and I was invited to that, and I'm going to meet her, and when I meet with her, she goes, guess what I just caught?

01:10:42.000 She goes in her room, she's already been checked in, she goes out and eats, she goes in, the door's cracked, there's a guy in a suit, over her phone, putting a device in it, he screws the top on and runs out of the room past her, I mean, and then of course, you talked about what happened at your house, Tell folks about that again.

01:10:58.000 I Well, you know, we have a system set up where, as the governor in your private home, they give you this red phone that even if it's knocked off the hook, it will ring automatically the local police who will come running, which is a good idea.

01:11:14.000 You know, you don't even have to speak into it.

01:11:17.000 If the phone is knocked off the hook, that sends a message right to the local police, and they're coming.

01:11:24.000 But when they installed that, we always had weird clicking on my regular phones, and it was so bad it became laughable where my in-laws would automatically state, well, I guess if you're out there, we're talking again, you know, and that type of thing.

01:11:39.000 And then when I ended being governor, we found a little transformer-type thing out on my deck one day that a friend of mine said who used to do that for the phone company when ordered to said that that had something to do with, you know, a listening-type device.

01:11:55.000 And then...

01:12:06.000 They said, we've never seen phone wiring like this in all the years we've worked on them.

01:12:12.000 So that's all I can go on, Alex, is that it was a very strange situation to say the least by four years in office.

01:12:20.000 You know, you've told this story, but you never got into much detail here.

01:12:23.000 Can you briefly get back into one of your first days at work?

01:12:26.000 You go to the Capitol, and there's 23 CIA people in your office, but they won't tell you who they are.

01:12:33.000 They won't tell...

01:12:34.000 Well, no, that's...

01:12:36.000 No, they weren't in my office.

01:12:37.000 They were in the Capitol basement.

01:12:39.000 Yeah, they...

01:12:41.000 and let's put it in the right thing They requested, quote, requested that I come down and interview with them.

01:12:48.000 You know, I don't want to say they ordered me to because there was no one that said I had to.

01:12:53.000 But I, being former military and, you know, new to the job, I felt that I guess this is my obligation.

01:13:00.000 If the CIA wants to talk to me and I'm the governor of the state of Minnesota, I certainly should talk to them.

01:13:07.000 So I went down, and then when it arrived, I went down into the bowels of the Capitol, into this closed room.

01:13:14.000 And I sat in a chair, and they were in a big half-moon circle around me.

01:13:18.000 And let me also say they were very professional.

01:13:21.000 They were very courteous.

01:13:24.000 They always addressed me as my title governor.

01:13:27.000 You know, all the formalities were there.

01:13:30.000 I guess the scariest thing about it, Alex, was this.

01:13:34.000 As I looked around the room at these 23 people, I saw my neighbors.

01:13:40.000 And what I mean by that is you would never guess in your wildest dreams that these were CIA operatives, which is their job.

01:13:49.000 So obviously they recruit and they do it very well because some of the people I looked at would look like the old retired guy down the street that would sweep his step.

01:13:59.000 Others were younger people.

01:14:02.000 Others were professionals.

01:14:03.000 Others were blue collar.

01:14:05.000 They came with an entire cross-sectional Amazing. There's a federal law.

01:14:34.000 It's a felony.

01:14:36.000 And what do they say to you?

01:14:48.000 They avoided the question pretty much, and I said, your mission statement says you're not to be operational in the U.S. What are you doing here?

01:14:57.000 And then I said, I want to go around the room and I'd like for you to tell me your name and what you do.

01:15:03.000 Well, I got about half and half on both.

01:15:06.000 Half would tell me their names.

01:15:07.000 I don't know if they were their real names or not.

01:15:10.000 No way of verifying that.

01:15:11.000 And half would say at all what they did.

01:15:14.000 If they did tell me what they did, how would you know that was the truth?

01:15:18.000 So how did it end?

01:15:18.000 It was much like when I went through Sears school, survival, escape, resistance, and evasion, when I was a frog man.

01:15:26.000 Well, when they interrogate you there, my actual rate was storekeeper, which is supply.

01:15:31.000 So I would tell them I'm a storekeeper, I work in supply.

01:15:35.000 I hand out blankets and requisition parts.

01:15:38.000 Although I was actually a Navy SEAL, never worked in supply at all.

01:15:43.000 But in those days, you had to go up in rank with a regular Navy rate.

01:15:46.000 And so I was a storekeeper.

01:15:48.000 And maybe that's the way it is for these people, too.

01:15:53.000 That they can make up and not actually do.

01:15:56.000 They wanted to understand how you came out of left field.

01:16:13.000 Yep. And that's their job.

01:16:17.000 It's like when I went home that day and I called my friend Dick Marcinko, you know, the creator of SEAL Team 6 and a 30-year Navy SEAL, and Dick dealt with the SEAL.

01:16:26.000 Yeah. Well,

01:16:54.000 might win what's going on in the country, because that's what their job is to do.

01:16:59.000 Gather intelligence, present it to the government, so that the government can then make a determination and an educated movement on how they want to react to it.

01:17:09.000 it's hard to believe.

01:17:11.000 Governor, it's hard to believe that we are already right up to the final segment.

01:17:16.000 And I know you've got to go.

01:17:17.000 Maybe I can push your arm for five more minutes in the next hour so we have time to take four or five calls on the other side.

01:17:23.000 Plus, I want to get into the awesome events coming up and plug the book.

01:17:26.000 We'll be back in three minutes with Governor Jesse Ventura.

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01:21:40.000 The guy that made Siriana about CIA black op commander.

01:21:43.000 You know, we are going against the flow, but we're starting to turn people around and wake them up.

01:21:48.000 Governor Ventura, your book has been on and off the New York Times bestseller list.

01:21:52.000 If anybody hasn't gotten it, they need to get it in bookstores everywhere.

01:21:55.000 Don't start the revolution without me.

01:21:57.000 That said, I am looking forward to hanging out with you for a day and a half here in Austin.

01:22:02.000 For those that don't know, I'll go ahead and announce the details.

01:22:04.000 The 26th of August.

01:22:06.000 October, the backyard, the last time, because we're moving to an even bigger facility.

01:22:10.000 This one holds 18. It's outdoors.

01:22:13.000 I mean, this one holds 8,000, and we're going to be having it streaming live for free on the internet at InfoWars.com.

01:22:20.000 And it was Willie Nelson's idea.

01:22:22.000 The thing is so popular that even when Willie said come to the event, it was almost sold out then.

01:22:27.000 So it's sold out.

01:22:27.000 You might go to scalpers to get in, but regardless, it'll be free on the web.

01:22:30.000 Austin City Limits is going to be there, putting it out all over the country.

01:22:34.000 They're going to be taping it for that.

01:22:36.000 And a bunch of other media is going to be there.

01:22:38.000 And so you'll definitely want to watch that for some surprises.

01:22:42.000 Governor Ventura, do you like Austin, Texas?

01:22:44.000 You've been down here quite a few times, I think.

01:22:46.000 I enjoy Austin, Texas very much.

01:22:49.000 In fact, in I would tell you this, and I hope I don't offend the rest of the Texans, but if I were to ever move to Texas, Austin would probably be the prime place where I would look, because I love the blues, and I love Stevie Ray Vaughan, and the whole Austin area down there is a magnificent area.

01:23:10.000 It's fun to come and visit, and I'm looking forward to coming the 26th.

01:23:14.000 Well, if you like Double Trouble and the fabulous Thunderbirds, Jimmy Vaughn is going to be playing at the event, and he is a listener of the show.

01:23:23.000 He's been a guest here.

01:23:25.000 Have you ever met Jimmy Vaughn?

01:23:27.000 He's a fabulous guy.

01:23:29.000 Jimmy was up at the Ron Paul thing here.

01:23:34.000 Jimmy and I talked at the Ron Paul convention, the counter convention up here in the Twin Cities at the Target Center.

01:23:41.000 Well, it's a small world, and I'm just honored to be associated with people like you and Mr. Vaughn and others.

01:23:46.000 God, it's exciting to be on the side of good.

01:23:48.000 You know, I feel sorry for those that are involved in corruption and bad, because I guess they don't have a conscience, or they just don't care, because I love being part of the good guys.

01:23:56.000 What about you, Governor?

01:23:58.000 Well, I don't know necessarily.

01:24:00.000 You gotta remember something.

01:24:01.000 I was a villain for all those years in wrestling, so I like to cause trouble, too.

01:24:06.000 You're not a villain.

01:24:09.000 Well, I played a villain.

01:24:10.000 Everyone hated me, Alex. 0.99

01:24:13.000 They paid their hard-earned dollars to get my butt kicked. 1.00

01:24:16.000 Growing up in Dallas, watching you on TV, we liked you, and we were rooting for you to kick Hulk Hogan's butt. 0.99

01:24:22.000 Well, you know, if you put it that way, Alex, then you're not always on the side of right justice because I was a villain. 0.95

01:24:33.000 Hogan was supposed to be the all-American villain.

01:24:35.000 may not be i know it was by i know everybody everybody liked i mean they're saying you're probably the best villain ever jesse but you know uh...

01:24:43.000 You're not really a villain, so we know that was just having some fun.

01:24:46.000 No, you know, people understand that, that that's, you know, in the world of pro wrestling, you're...

01:24:52.000 All right, folks, Alex will be back live tomorrow, Friday.

01:24:58.000 Stay tuned, Alex Jones, on the Infowars.com streams.

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01:25:06.000 Stay right there.

Alex Jones Show - October 09, 2008

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