Alex Jones Show - 20081023_Thu_Alex

00:00:04.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Alright, a lot of really important news I'm gonna get to out of the gates here.

00:00:28.000 Coming up in T-minus one hour.

00:00:31.000 Robert Grodin is He's going to be joining us for two hours now.

00:00:38.000 Robert Grodin is probably the JFK assassination insider.

00:00:43.000 He's the guy that well got the copy of the Zabruder film and leaked it out to the public.

00:00:51.000 He's the person that leaked out the photos of the back of Kennedy's head, blown off.

00:00:56.000 He was uniquely placed to expose all that.

00:00:59.000 He was the chief consultant and expert Uh, Jim Marshall brought the screenplay and consulted as well, but he was the chief consultant on the Oliver Stone film, JFK.

00:01:12.000 He's never been on this show!

00:01:14.000 And I've been consulting with him and working with him on my JFK film.

00:01:18.000 It's about continuity of government, the fascist connection, uh, the new E. Howard Hunt revelations, but only... Again, it gets into areas never before covered as part of the JFK assassination.

00:01:32.000 But now we have the vast majority, more than 90% of the American people in all major polls believing the government killed Kennedy.

00:01:39.000 The truth is out there.

00:01:41.000 But I thought we would have the preeminent expert on today and take your phone calls and get into the new revelation.

00:01:50.000 Now we've had this video for about six months and I was piling up footage, piling up research.

00:01:57.000 We watched it six months ago.

00:01:59.000 I kept meaning to put a mini-film together before we even put it in Black Sunshine, the Continuity of Government slash JFK film I'm making, that Grodin, by the way, is going to be in as well, with some new revelations, by the way.

00:02:16.000 But, um, I kept meaning to get around to putting this video out.

00:02:22.000 Well, we finally in the last week edited it together with some other video and images and documents.

00:02:29.000 Never-before-seen footage.

00:02:30.000 You know, there's the audio tape released a year ago and the Rolling Stone covering the handwritten notes where E. Howard Hunt admitted to being involved with the assassination of JFK.

00:02:43.000 We'd always known that had been picked up as one of the tramps.

00:02:46.000 But here he was admitting it.

00:02:48.000 And then people said, oh no, St.

00:02:50.000 John Hunt and the Rolling Stone is lying.

00:02:54.000 And so he just released the audio tape.

00:02:57.000 Well, He gave us the video.

00:03:01.000 And by the way, there's a lot more where this came from.

00:03:04.000 But we put out the most dangerous stuff that I... It's not even fearlessness, it's in a way, it's stupidity. 1.00

00:03:11.000 That I could just calmly sit here relaxing, having this tape, when they already tried to run St. 0.99

00:03:16.000 John off the road, they already broke into his house, tried to steal everything, rifled through all the papers.

00:03:24.000 I mean, I'm just unbelievably callous I guess living the life of danger here.

00:03:31.000 Make no mistake, there's danger involved.

00:03:33.000 They're still killing people over the Kennedy assassination.

00:03:35.000 To have had this video for six months, and so last week I said, look!

00:03:40.000 We keep meaning to put a little mini-film out about this and add a bunch of documentation to it.

00:03:46.000 Just put it out.

00:03:48.000 Just put... We sat down one night, watched the hours of it.

00:03:55.000 And I just said, that's the most dangerous stuff, that's the key stuff, get that out now.

00:04:02.000 In fact, I know St.

00:04:03.000 John wants it in larger portions of it in the film, but I'm going to call him today and just say, look St.

00:04:08.000 John, I just want to put the whole thing on YouTube.

00:04:12.000 I don't even want this video sitting around here.

00:04:16.000 But, doesn't matter, the most damning stuff is there.

00:04:20.000 We're just nonchalantly talking about How they killed Kennedy, why they killed Kennedy, why LBJ wanted it done.

00:04:27.000 Talks about Harvey, who we know had run assassinations all over the world.

00:04:33.000 And, uh, so the video's there.

00:04:35.000 It's pretty historic.

00:04:37.000 And we kind of released it with a whimper, not a bang, last night.

00:04:41.000 We even put on the YouTube video that it's a world-exclusive and never-before-seen.

00:04:45.000 We're so used to just being so close to bombshell information that we, I think, lose perspective on just how important the work is that we are doing, and all the glory goes to God, and thank God for his guidance and protection.

00:04:55.000 All right, we'll be right back with a bunch of other news in your phone calls.

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00:08:01.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

00:08:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:07.000 There's a 14-minute video up on PrisonPlanet.tv for present planet TV members in high quality.

00:08:34.000 We also have the YouTube videos posted for free, where you can go watch the world-exclusive footage.

00:08:44.000 I'm going to air some of that audio right now, and then later in the show I'm going to air all of it for those listening on AM and FM dials four-wave satellite.

00:08:51.000 Or those that have computers but are out driving around in their cars and can't watch the video.

00:08:55.000 I'm going to play all the audio, 14 minutes of it, coming up later in the broadcast today.

00:09:01.000 I've got some financial news and a lot of other important info.

00:09:05.000 Human-animal hybrid clone info coming up.

00:09:10.000 But right now, let's go ahead and just play a few minutes of the never before heard or seen E. Howard Hunt.

00:09:17.000 I mean, this is him on video.

00:09:18.000 Close up of his face.

00:09:20.000 Talking about who and how Kennedy was killed.

00:09:24.000 Here it is.

00:09:25.000 I could just visualize Harvey and LBJ forming a kind of a thieves compact between them.

00:09:37.000 But I think if LBJ was an opportunist and if he had not hesitated To get rid of obstacles in his way.

00:09:52.000 I think his later career exemplified that.

00:09:57.000 The Vice President had the most to gain.

00:10:01.000 And he was in a position where he could bring in people like Cornmire and others of interest and get their take on different things and then in turn issue There was nobody with the leverage that LBJ had.

00:10:29.000 No competitor.

00:10:30.000 He was the Vice President, and if he wanted to get rid of the President, then he had the ability to do so by corrupting different people in the CIA.

00:10:47.000 And he had to do it.

00:10:49.000 With the limitations of the CIA because there was no other group that honored, if I could use that term, that honored the clandestine limitations the way CIA did.

00:11:05.000 They could do something, turn their back on it, move on to something else.

00:11:10.000 It was not like a military.

00:11:13.000 There was no accounting in that sense.

00:11:18.000 And we know that LBJ had an unlimited ambition.

00:11:26.000 And we know that he was a corrupt individual.

00:11:31.000 And that the dollar sign was very important to him.

00:11:35.000 As vice president, he didn't have the leverage that a president did or would.

00:11:44.000 And so that was an attractive goal for LBJ.

00:11:49.000 He did not want his career to come to an end as Vice President.

00:11:55.000 Who knows about Vice Presidents? 0.64

00:11:58.000 It was very important to him that he take advantage as to the extent that he could as Vice President because just a few things had to be accomplished He had to kill Kennedy, or have him killed, I should say, and be guilt-free himself.

00:12:24.000 Then he could go on and do what he wanted to do as President of the United States.

00:12:33.000 It was a very tempting and almost illogical Move on his part.

00:12:46.000 I keep thinking about Bill Harvey.

00:12:49.000 Alright.

00:12:50.000 Bill Harvey and say, look... Again, you can go watch the rest of it.

00:12:54.000 It gets even more hardcore.

00:12:55.000 I mean, I can't believe in my life that this radio show, the films we make, that, I mean, we've got people like Jesse Ventura and Willie Nelson talking about the government blowing up the towers and German defense ministers and high-level members of Japanese parliament and

00:13:13.000 Hollywood stars like Charlie Sheen and film directors like Rick Linklater on there telling us that we've woken up Bruce Willis and in my strange life we just nonchalantly have videotapes lying around that nobody's ever seen with him spilling his guts seeing Howard Hunt of course that's admitted with the TV show and then films it's Ethan Hunt Mission Impossible that's modeled

00:13:43.000 After him, the most famous CIA black op commander in history.

00:13:49.000 And it's just very strange that this information is coming out.

00:13:55.000 It's surreal!

00:13:57.000 There are people in the InfoWars.com article posting comments, and they're saying, yeah, this is a good video.

00:14:07.000 The headline, World Exclusive E. Howard Hunt Tells JFK Plot on Video.

00:14:12.000 Aaron did a great job editing the video and putting it up there yesterday, and I called him last night when he put it up.

00:14:16.000 I left about 10, got home about 11, saw the story post, and I called him.

00:14:20.000 I said, uh, Aaron, uh, you don't even say World Exclusive on this.

00:14:26.000 Uh, so he did add that to the article, but not the YouTube video title.

00:14:32.000 But people are in there posting, going, hey, you know, he's covering up.

00:14:36.000 He's saying it only went up to LBJ.

00:14:41.000 And I like Tarpley, but you know, Tarpley made me mad like a year ago when we were first airing these audio tapes.

00:14:48.000 This is separate video, not just the video of the audio.

00:14:50.000 This is separate video.

00:14:51.000 You just heard the audio of it.

00:14:52.000 It's new.

00:14:53.000 New to the public.

00:14:56.000 And you know, Tarpley said the same thing on his show.

00:14:58.000 Well, we're all hearing now that disinfo, that it was LBJ alone that ran it.

00:15:03.000 No, we're not!

00:15:06.000 E. Howard Hunt was taking orders from the President.

00:15:08.000 That's as high as the chain of command went for him.

00:15:11.000 It's like if you have a Mafia Capo taking orders from a Don, and the Don's had a meeting a few months before, and the Capo running the hit wasn't privy to the meeting of the Mafia Chiefs.

00:15:26.000 So he knows the Mafia Chief that they were getting orders from.

00:15:30.000 I'm not even here criticizing people.

00:15:34.000 This is just for open discussion.

00:15:36.000 This is the type of nitpicking that is endemic everywhere.

00:15:40.000 In the alternative media.

00:15:42.000 That we bring you this incredible revelation.

00:15:45.000 We risk our lives to bring it to you.

00:15:46.000 Make no mistake, it's dangerous.

00:15:48.000 Dealing with this.

00:15:50.000 And I just want that noted.

00:15:52.000 No one can deny it.

00:15:54.000 And then it's, oh, you know, they're covering up for the New World Order. 0.57

00:15:58.000 They're saying they only want it to LBJ.

00:16:01.000 When, in the videos we've released and the radio interviews we did, we pointed out that It was Nixon involved and a bunch of other people, and then above them Rothschilds and Rockefellers and the CFR.

00:16:13.000 And the oil family, the hunts out of Texas.

00:16:16.000 No relation to E. Howard Hunt.

00:16:19.000 I mean, it's just incredible to be on the field, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, just trying to expose the New World Order.

00:16:28.000 Busting our hinds to do it. 1.00

00:16:31.000 And so, I mean, this is a very important story.

00:16:33.000 And it needs to be seen, it needs to go viral on the web, so I'm enlisting our wonderful listeners and activists out there.

00:16:42.000 Do your own reports on your own blogs, and call them to talk radio shows, and email this to talk shows, and tell them to talk about it, and cover it, and deal with it, because people always say, well, a conspiracy like 9-11, or Gulf of Tonkin, or USS Liberty, or JFK, you know, people would talk!

00:16:58.000 People would speak out!

00:16:59.000 It would come out!

00:17:02.000 Well, they do!

00:17:05.000 Close to 500 people conservatively were murdered in and around the JFK assassination, tying up loose ends.

00:17:13.000 Barry Jennings talked about bombs going off, explosions before either tower collapsed.

00:17:17.000 He was in Building 7, 300 yards away.

00:17:21.000 He's in there with the head of the New York Emergency Management.

00:17:23.000 He was the deputy head.

00:17:28.000 The media starts trying to discredit it and suddenly he dies and they won't say why he died or another witness who saw bombs going off, he dies.

00:17:36.000 Same week.

00:17:38.000 Back in August.

00:17:38.000 I mean, living in the real world is, I don't even want to say frightening, it's bracing.

00:17:49.000 It's like walking out on a freezing cold winter day with cold wind blowing in the face.

00:17:53.000 It really wakes you up.

00:17:57.000 Unless you know what you're dealing with.

00:17:58.000 And I think all of us should every day just reassess and recalibrate.

00:18:05.000 Kind of restart our computer and realize we really have a new world order.

00:18:09.000 They really put poison in the water. 0.70

00:18:11.000 They really spray our skies with poison.

00:18:13.000 They now admit they're doing that.

00:18:14.000 They say it's for climate control, but we know it's toxic.

00:18:17.000 That's now in mainstream news.

00:18:19.000 And it's now mainstream news.

00:18:20.000 They're setting up a trilateral world currency and a world government run by the banks where you pay carbon tax Where you pay carbon taxes to the private banks.

00:18:33.000 And the CPS really does grab over a million children a year without due process criminally.

00:18:40.000 Government really does test pesticides and chemicals and drugs that kill children, foster children.

00:18:45.000 And it's in the mainstream news.

00:18:49.000 The FDA is going after now vitamin companies and shutting them down.

00:18:54.000 They don't even have court proceedings.

00:18:56.000 They just used the Patriot Act on them.

00:18:58.000 I have articles about that today.

00:19:00.000 With the bailout, it really is at least $5 trillion.

00:19:03.000 We told you that a month ago.

00:19:04.000 Now it's mainstream news.

00:19:05.000 I heard Ron Paul last week say it's actually right now $5 trillion and growing.

00:19:12.000 And it's completely secret.

00:19:14.000 That's in the news today, Huffington Post.

00:19:17.000 They won't say where the trillions are going.

00:19:19.000 Just like when $2 trillion was missing, the AP reported on it two days before 9-11, now it's over $4 trillion.

00:19:26.000 Last time I saw a congressional hearing on it, two years ago, it was $4 trillion.

00:19:30.000 Just gone!

00:19:31.000 The Pentagon pension funds, the investments, and then the Meyers and Rumsfeld two years ago, they just got up and said, we're not going to tell you where it is!

00:19:40.000 None of your business, Congress!

00:19:42.000 And they really are threatening Congress with martial law, and they really are deploying army brigades.

00:19:48.000 If you read carefully, it's a whole bunch of them.

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00:19:51.000 They're just reporting on the new one they're deploying.

00:19:53.000 I mean, it's really happening!

00:19:55.000 We better get our heads screwed on straight!

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00:23:59.000 Seems like yesterday, but it was long ago.

00:24:12.000 Deadlines.

00:24:27.000 Deadlines and commitments.

00:24:30.000 What to leave in, what to leave out.

00:24:35.000 Against the wind.

00:24:40.000 We were young and strong.

00:24:45.000 We found ourselves seeking shelter.

00:24:48.000 Still just running against the wind.

00:24:50.000 Against the wind.

00:25:01.000 Against the wind.

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00:25:14.000 As I enter the last segment, I'm telling you folks, you need to reset, all of us do, myself included, and just realize how incrementally the tyranny is intensifying all around us.

00:25:29.000 I mean, they're putting body scanners that our mainstream media even admits are basically Electronic strip searches, they're storing images of our naked bodies, the humiliation, all in the name of stopping terrorism that the rulers of this planet themselves are conducting against us, so we will acquiesce to being slaves.

00:25:50.000 Very simple equation.

00:25:51.000 They pose terror, so they have a pretext to rule and dominate.

00:25:55.000 Real simple.

00:25:58.000 And they are engaging in an economic terrorism and consolidation and setting up the foretold world government run for and by the banks.

00:26:05.000 Where you pay taxes directly to them.

00:26:07.000 It's just amazing.

00:26:12.000 And I... Every day, you know, it hits me.

00:26:17.000 Man, this is a real fight.

00:26:18.000 These people are real.

00:26:19.000 The only reason they haven't killed me is because they don't want to underline everything I say.

00:26:24.000 Put an exclamation point on it.

00:26:25.000 Highlight it.

00:26:26.000 They don't want to make me a martyr.

00:26:29.000 Then I realized they could go ahead and do it anytime they still do it.

00:26:33.000 To many people that are prominent, just to scare people into submission.

00:26:36.000 Then I realized, for the weak, for the innocent, for humanity, that's why we even exist, is because people fought and stood up against tyranny before us.

00:26:45.000 Everything good in the world is because people have sacrificed.

00:26:48.000 And I'm committed, and that's the good feeling here, is that there's no going back, once you're on the road to liberty, and justice, and freedom.

00:26:58.000 Once you set yourself against the dark side, there is no turning back.

00:27:02.000 There is no turning back on this road.

00:27:05.000 There's a lot of news here, but let's just go ahead and go to your calls now.

00:27:14.000 Scott in Arizona, you're on the air.

00:27:16.000 Hey Alex, how are you doing?

00:27:18.000 Good, my friend.

00:27:19.000 Hey, a question I have for you is a couple different ones.

00:27:23.000 One being the news thing that you just had right now, where you just played that clip.

00:27:28.000 Would you think the mainstream media would pick up on that?

00:27:31.000 And since it's going to go YouTube, do you think they would play that?

00:27:37.000 Are you getting any spin to that?

00:27:38.000 No, no, no, no.

00:27:39.000 John's tried to bring it to the national media, and none of them have touched it.

00:27:39.000 St.

00:27:44.000 Except the Rolling Stone, and then they wrote a story about St.

00:27:47.000 John Hunt, and then kind of the last paragraph said, oh, by the way, there's handwritten notes and audio tapes of his dad saying they ran the operation to kill Kennedy.

00:27:57.000 And then the media said, oh, that isn't real.

00:27:59.000 And so he released it, you know, the audio here on this show and on Coast to Coast AM and a few others.

00:28:05.000 And then now for the first time, you see the video itself.

00:28:09.000 So, of course, the establishment I mean, the Chicago Tribune and a few other publications reported that the NSA declassified, CIA declassified earlier this year that it's true, Israel knowingly attacked the ship. 0.81

00:28:21.000 Israel admits it. 1.00

00:28:23.000 They have the NSA intercepts where Israel knew.

00:28:25.000 And what the pilot said about five years ago, they had an Israeli pilot apologize on Israeli TV and broke down crying and said, I refuse three times.

00:28:33.000 They ordered me to do it anyways.

00:28:34.000 That's an American ship. 0.92

00:28:35.000 It's an American ship.

00:28:37.000 And they threatened him.

00:28:37.000 They said, you will attack it.

00:28:41.000 You know, so we already had his testimony, but now it's backed up by the declassified NSA intercepts.

00:28:46.000 So, but you'd think that would have become big national news that, oh, hey, all these books written, all these TV shows written by the establishment to debunk the men on that ship and the admirals and others on the aircraft carriers that had told the truth.

00:29:01.000 And the later chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Moore, saying it was an inside job.

00:29:08.000 You know, they don't want to admit they've been totally disproven.

00:29:11.000 Just like they called us conspiracy theorists on Tonkin, wrote books, had TV shows debunking that Tonkin wasn't staged with the Destroyers, and now it's declassified and the LBJ tapes are released.

00:29:26.000 So, no, they're not going to... People always say, where's the smoking gun?

00:29:29.000 Smoking guns are everywhere!

00:29:31.000 Stay there, I'll have you finished when we get back.

00:29:34.000 Scott and then everybody else that's patiently holding.

00:29:37.000 But yeah, the new JFK information is up on InfoWars.com.

00:29:42.000 Right now, world exclusive, E. Howard Hunt tells the JFK plot on video.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The empire's on the run.

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00:33:19.000 Ooh! 0.96

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00:33:23.000 The red, white, and blue.

00:33:25.000 And when the band plays, hell to the chief, Lord, know that it ain't going to get you.

00:33:32.000 It's out there.

00:33:34.000 It ain't mean.

00:33:36.000 It ain't mean, no.

00:33:39.000 Look at the criminality you see on the streets.

00:33:42.000 Business.

00:33:43.000 And just the culture itself.

00:33:45.000 Being toxified by the police. 1.00

00:33:49.000 Bitch rots from the head. 1.00

00:33:50.000 As they say. 1.00

00:33:51.000 As they say.

00:33:54.000 Some folks are born silver spoon in their hand.

00:34:00.000 Love, don't they help themselves? 0.98

00:34:03.000 Think of the ridiculous spell, the illusion.

00:34:06.000 The tax man, the people.

00:34:08.000 The mesmerized public convinced for decades that there was no evil in government, no corruption.

00:34:14.000 The government couldn't tie its shoelaces. 0.54

00:34:18.000 There were no powerful interests, that nobody wanted to rule them or dominate them, nobody wanted to rule the world.

00:34:26.000 And even as they set up their open world government, foreign by the banks, even as with one Side of their mouth, they admit they're doing it.

00:34:35.000 The other side, they deny it.

00:34:36.000 Just amazing.

00:34:37.000 Going back to your phone calls, Scott in Arizona, finish up what you were saying.

00:34:41.000 Okay, Adam, my other question is about the Biden-Powell comments about what's going on with, you know, they're talking about a crisis that will happen coming up in the new year.

00:34:54.000 Do you believe that they're just doing fear-mongering, or do you believe that something will come up before then, or do you think that after that comes to pass, or is it more fear-mongering?

00:35:03.000 I don't know.

00:35:04.000 I knew they were going to launch the 9-11 attack because President Bush's approval rating was plunging.

00:35:13.000 And I knew that their favorite tactic, they've been preparing the public saying terrorists are going to strike.

00:35:20.000 When they strike, we're going to take all your freedoms away to keep you safe.

00:35:24.000 And then they introduced bin Laden on TV and said he's about to get you. 0.81

00:35:28.000 And there were hundreds of other points and things I saw as they were preparing the public.

00:35:34.000 Like we're children.

00:35:35.000 And I do see them preparing the public again.

00:35:38.000 The problem is they have done it so much in the last seven years since they staged the 9-11 attacks, seven years plus, that there's really no telling what they're going to do.

00:35:53.000 I mean, the economic crisis is an economic 9-11.

00:35:57.000 It could be a military strike.

00:35:58.000 I mean, out of the blue, one morning you wake up and U.S.-backed Nato-Israel backed proxy, Georgia.

00:36:07.000 Sneak attacks Russian held areas.

00:36:10.000 International controlled zones.

00:36:12.000 Sneak attack.

00:36:15.000 Nato peacekeepers. 1.00

00:36:16.000 Kill them. 1.00

00:36:18.000 They had Georgian peacekeepers in with the UN slash Nato slash Russian contingent. 1.00

00:36:24.000 Killing them. 0.80

00:36:25.000 At point blank range. 1.00

00:36:26.000 I mean just unbelievable sneak attacks.

00:36:29.000 I mean, even high-intensity with artillery bombardments, but it started with low-intensity, point-blank commando-type attack.

00:36:39.000 I mean, that's just as dirty as it gets.

00:36:42.000 And then they had such disdain for the American people, the people of the world, that our media, Put the Georgian puppet president on TV saying, we've been snuck attacked, help us, help us.

00:36:53.000 We're being snuck attacked by Russia.

00:36:55.000 And of course I'm not saying Russia's good. 0.98

00:36:57.000 Putin and the new president are obviously corrupt.

00:36:59.000 I mean, that's the nature of power. 0.86

00:37:00.000 99% of the time, and Russia's, I'm not saying, you know, run by angels and they kill a lot of media people and there's lots of corruption.

00:37:10.000 It's just that the elite we've got in the West, the Anglo-American establishment, I mean, these are reckless people. 1.00

00:37:17.000 They launched huge Hollywood-style terror attacks that killed 3,000 people.

00:37:22.000 That spectacular?

00:37:24.000 Designed for media?

00:37:25.000 With just event after event after event the same day?

00:37:28.000 To get maximum coverage?

00:37:30.000 They said close to 4 billion people were able to tune in?

00:37:33.000 And then they launched preemptive attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan and All the bold things they've done here, and the bold sneak attack on Russia. 0.55

00:37:43.000 I mean, just the sky's the limit with these people!

00:37:45.000 They're geared up for bio-attacks that they'll undoubtedly in the future release.

00:37:50.000 Betraying us to have a controlled society.

00:37:54.000 I mean, and people don't want to hear this.

00:37:56.000 They're like, oh that's scary, I don't want to hear it.

00:37:58.000 They're the ones saying it's going to happen, and we know they're the ones that have done it over and over again.

00:38:01.000 There's no doubt that the White House sent the anthrax letters.

00:38:06.000 There's no doubt.

00:38:07.000 That they're fear-mongering, saying we're going to be attacked by bio-weapons, chemical weapons, radiological weapons.

00:38:12.000 There's no doubt they've got the will to do it.

00:38:15.000 It gets them more power and control, and to them it's just collateral damage.

00:38:18.000 It's a military mindset, a very corrupt one.

00:38:22.000 And so, just God help us, these people are giving us no quarter.

00:38:27.000 And they've got a public that knows they're being lied to now, but just can't face the horror that the elite is really this bad.

00:38:35.000 That it's not a boss hog corruption. 0.50

00:38:37.000 I mean, I'd pray for a boss hog corruption compared to this.

00:38:40.000 Just looting and stealing and, you know, doing old-fashioned stuff that government does, and that's bad, but that's to almost be expected in history. 1.00

00:38:49.000 But to have a hardcore, scientific, focused, vicious system You know, that puts out these George Bush puppets, and Bill Clinton puppets, and Barack Obama puppets, and the public thinks they actually run something, and it all becomes about the personality, and Saturday Night Live making jokes about them, and, oh, the leaders are just idiots, and, you know, the environmentalists are just morons. 1.00

00:39:09.000 Well, yeah, they take your farm or ranch. 1.00

00:39:10.000 They're not morons. 0.99

00:39:11.000 They're businessmen. 1.00

00:39:12.000 They're raiders who use it as a cover to steal your property.

00:39:16.000 I mean, and all the genetic engineering and what it's doing to the environment, that's being ignored.

00:39:20.000 And all these environmental zombies, you know, wanting to grab property and tax human respiration.

00:39:28.000 It's just unspeakable.

00:39:30.000 It's a nightmare.

00:39:30.000 It's just all of it.

00:39:36.000 I appreciate your call, Scott.

00:39:38.000 I'm not trying to even be negative here.

00:39:39.000 You know, people say, well, be positive.

00:39:42.000 Tell us the good stuff that's happened.

00:39:43.000 If I don't... Look, I'm using the analogy, I'll use it again.

00:39:49.000 Imagine seeing your neighbor's house.

00:39:50.000 Your dog's barking.

00:39:51.000 It's 2 a.m.

00:39:52.000 in the morning.

00:39:53.000 Your dog's barking.

00:39:58.000 And you go and look out the window and you see flames coming out of the attic of your neighbor's house.

00:40:04.000 And you run out front, you wait for a second, you're on your cordless phone, you call 9-1-1, some other neighbors are walking out in their pajamas, in their bathrobes, and you see smoke start coming out of, you know, now the top floor of the two-story house, and a couple minutes have gone by, and you notice there's a couple lights on in the house, and you go bang on the door, and somebody comes to the door with a nightcap on, rubbing their eyes, and you say, hey, your house on fire, get out, get out, you know, get your family, your children, get your animals out, and they say, hey, be positive!

00:40:35.000 Well, why are you being so negative?

00:40:36.000 And they're like, no, no, look, I mean, look, there's smoke in your house.

00:40:39.000 Don't you know it's on fire?

00:40:41.000 Get out of there! 0.65

00:40:42.000 And they're like, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist.

00:40:44.000 No, I'm just going to think positive and I'm going to go back and get back in bed.

00:40:48.000 And in fact, please don't wake me up again or I'll call the police on you.

00:40:52.000 And you're like, no, no, no, please, your house is on fire.

00:40:56.000 And so you say, well, I'm not going to stand here and let this happen.

00:40:58.000 Now, most Americans have been conditioned to stand by nowadays, but I mean, my neighbor was acting this psychopathic and was this mesmerized or uh... hypnotized by whatever to knock them out of the house, I'd go ahead and if they slammed the door in my face, I'd kick it down and start physically grabbing them and trying to get the house clear.

00:41:19.000 And then imagine in this corrupt system the police and fire department pull up and they would come up and tase me and say, oh he's insane, send him to the mental institution as the house collapses down and burns the family to death.

00:41:31.000 I mean everything we're talking about is documented, admitted on the record And we have our own movement in denial.

00:41:39.000 I was sent a YouTube video last night and in my email and I clicked on it about midnight and it was our... and I was reading the comments and I followed them back and it was quote, other patriots, other truth tellers saying, oh Alex Jones, you know, he's a David Icke nut now.

00:42:01.000 Look at him making stuff up about goblin people.

00:42:06.000 Now, I was reading what was in a bunch of British newspapers, and it had the quote by the scientist saying, humans are splitting into two different species, you know, this tall, blonde-haired, blue-eyed superman and these little goblin-like creatures. 0.73

00:42:24.000 But the person took the clip and said, oh look, he's making it up that there's goblin people, he's insane!

00:42:33.000 That's why I only played about 10 seconds of the clip.

00:42:36.000 But it wasn't the individual that was criticizing me.

00:42:39.000 I mean, I understood that.

00:42:43.000 I didn't mind that.

00:42:44.000 I knew what they were doing.

00:42:45.000 It was that the person that even sent me the email was saying, man, look at you.

00:42:45.000 And that was clear.

00:42:52.000 I used to listen to you, but you're clearly a nut just putting out this info now.

00:42:59.000 In fact, let me just go to Google right now and illustrate this.

00:43:06.000 Humans to split into two species.

00:43:08.000 Humans to split into two species.

00:43:23.000 I spelled that wrong.

00:43:24.000 I spelled it so bad Google can't even.

00:43:26.000 Hold on.

00:43:29.000 Oh, I didn't put space in there.

00:43:30.000 That's the problem.

00:43:32.000 Humans.

00:43:33.000 There we go.

00:43:35.000 That's not coming up.

00:43:37.000 I found it last night when I was looking for it.

00:43:40.000 Let me Google goblin-like creature.

00:43:43.000 Goblin-like creature.

00:43:52.000 Well, the point is, I'll find the article.

00:43:54.000 It's hard to do while I'm here talking on air, but if you type in Humanity, I think, is the headline, is split into two different species.

00:44:03.000 It was when the sign of a report came out by a prestigious institution, it was in a whole bunch of newspapers.

00:44:14.000 You know, that's just like if I'm... Well, I still have people emailing me saying, you're lying, there's no such thing as part human, part animal clones.

00:44:26.000 And I remember ten years ago, Yeah, it was more than that.

00:44:32.000 It was 1997, seeing BBC headlines about how they'd already created animal-human clones, but they had just terminated them in the embryonic phase.

00:44:43.000 And of course, obviously, that's just what they're publicly saying.

00:44:47.000 And I've told the stories of people coming up to me on the street, one time in a restaurant, The guy tapped me on the shoulder, I was picking up pizza, and he said, I used to listen to you, but now I know you're a liar. 0.95

00:44:57.000 There's no such thing as part goat, part spiders. 0.73

00:44:59.000 And I said, well, it's CBS News.

00:45:01.000 I had the head of the company on. 0.99

00:45:03.000 He said, no, you're a liar. 1.00

00:45:05.000 And I'm calling you out as a liar. 1.00

00:45:07.000 I said, fine, I'm a liar. 0.98

00:45:09.000 I mean, there are spider goats. 0.91

00:45:12.000 There are human pig, human cow clones.

00:45:19.000 I mean, I actually have a news article about that today.

00:45:22.000 Where is it?

00:45:23.000 This is, um, Agency French Press lawmakers back animal-human embryo research.

00:45:29.000 The lower house of parliament approved legislation Wednesday allowing scientists to create animal-human embryos for medical research in the biggest shake-up of embryo laws in two decades.

00:45:38.000 I mean, they were doing this in England and the U.S.

00:45:40.000 at least ten years ago.

00:45:43.000 Despite opposition from religious and pro-life groups, members of Parliament and the House of Commons, back the Human Embryology and Fertilization Bill 355, votes to 129, it will now go to the vote of the House of Lords and could be law by November.

00:45:56.000 But see, my detractors don't care.

00:45:58.000 They'll just cut out me talking about goblin creatures, human cow creatures, and then just say, look at how he's insane, but then people in our quote, own awakening movement will say, yeah, Alex is making it up.

00:46:11.000 I'm not making anything up.

00:46:13.000 I'm not making any of it up.

00:46:15.000 None of it up.

00:46:16.000 And you ignore it.

00:46:17.000 It's your own peril.

00:46:20.000 And I'm sick of the denial.

00:46:22.000 I am tired of it.

00:46:24.000 I've had enough of it.

00:46:28.000 I really have.

00:46:29.000 I mean, denial has been bred into us, and I... I don't even know what to say.

00:46:37.000 I gotta hurry, because I got a guest coming up, and I want to get to your calls.

00:46:39.000 Randy in L.A., go ahead.

00:46:41.000 How are you doing today, Alex?

00:46:44.000 Good, my friend.

00:46:45.000 Well, I'm calling today because I've been following the case of Berg v. Obama, and I think it's taken some very interesting turns of late, with the Obama camp unable to, or not replying in time to Berg's allegations that Obama was born in Kenya, which is a de facto admission of the charges.

00:47:02.000 So, what is your take on where this whole case is going?

00:47:05.000 I know Corsi's in Hawaii right now checking into it.

00:47:08.000 I'm going to get him on.

00:47:10.000 uh... in the next few days and uh... you know what that that isn't even the reason that that obama's bad he's bad because both the candidates are controlled by the new world order but he's gotten three times the wall street four times the goldman sachs money that mccain's got that's all you know they ran that chipmunk uh... nut Or the Albino chipmunk?

00:47:35.000 Yes, against, and I don't want to be mean to Albinos.

00:47:37.000 The point is, I got pretty white skin myself.

00:47:39.000 The point is, is that they are running him like they ran Bob Dole against Clinton in 96.

00:47:45.000 He is meant to lose.

00:47:46.000 But hey, the public isn't going to believe it.

00:47:49.000 They got to find out.

00:47:50.000 And by the time they figure out they've been taken for a ride by Barack Obama, there'll be a new Republican savior for them.

00:47:57.000 And then when they figure out they're being taken for a ride there, and you know, now I'm a right-wing fascist because I don't like Obama, and just a few months ago I was a hardcore commie, according to the neocons, because I didn't like Bush.

00:48:09.000 And it's just, this is how it goes.

00:48:11.000 So, for 48 years I'm now going to be a right-wing fascist, and then in 48 years, when it's a Republican, I'll be a commie again.

00:48:18.000 You know, it's just the public's gotta learn.

00:48:21.000 But the good news is, in the past, they were fooled by the left-right bait-and-switch.

00:48:25.000 When Congress has got an 11% approval rating, and in these polls, it's only about 60% saying they're gonna vote for either candidate, so that's like 30-something for Obama and 20-something for McCain.

00:48:36.000 I mean, neither one of them have a majority support out there.

00:48:39.000 So, the good news is, the people know.

00:48:41.000 They're just hoping things get better with Obama.

00:48:44.000 And I got news for you.

00:48:45.000 You're gonna see change, folks.

00:48:47.000 It's going to get real bad.

00:48:48.000 It's going to get a lot worse, so just get ready.

00:48:51.000 Anything else?

00:48:53.000 That's it, Alex.

00:48:53.000 I have to agree.

00:48:54.000 The people do seem to know.

00:48:55.000 I've been posting this question on Yahoo Answers, and so far I see about one in eight are saying, yeah, this definitely needs to be looked into further.

00:49:03.000 All right, my friend.

00:49:04.000 Kevin in Missouri, you're on the air.

00:49:09.000 Hey, how's it going?

00:49:10.000 I was actually calling about the Byrd case as well, but I wanted to follow up on it with a slightly different That's right.

00:49:17.000 The judge, Obama, none of them will answer the questions.

00:49:20.000 A lot of separate experts have looked at the certificate of birth.

00:49:24.000 It clearly looks like it's been falsified.

00:49:27.000 But, I mean, it's not just that.

00:49:29.000 Where there's smoke, there's fire.

00:49:30.000 This guy, and I'm not bashing Muslims or people with foreign names, but, I mean, if his name was, you know, David Jones or Tom Jones, and he was a black guy, and his family had been here for 100 years, 200 years, people would trust him a lot more. 0.97

00:49:43.000 I mean, I don't trust Schwarzenegger, because, you know, he's a foreigner, his daddy was a Nazi. 1.00

00:49:47.000 And I made a film about that, and I get emails saying you're anti-German when I'm, you know, half-Germanic.

00:49:54.000 But the point is, Alsatian and German.

00:49:56.000 I was a French-German and German on both sides of my mother's family.

00:49:59.000 But, I mean, you know, I'm against Schwarzenegger and because, you know, questionable ties, and I'm definitely against Obama because, I mean, the guy did have a foreign daddy.

00:50:10.000 His mommy was a commie. 0.99

00:50:11.000 I mean, flat-out communist.

00:50:12.000 The guy's surrounded by them.

00:50:14.000 Communists killed over 150 million people last century.

00:50:18.000 But he's not some commie plant, folks.

00:50:20.000 He's a foundation banker plant. 0.59

00:50:22.000 That's why you got communists and bankers always thick as thieves.

00:50:24.000 Go ahead.

00:50:27.000 My concern was kind of with the Constitution, like, you know, if this gets through, it'll, it seems like it'll kind of circumvent the Constitution without due process of law by allowing a foreigner to become president. 1.00

00:50:39.000 And I was wondering, you know, if that happens, do you think that will go through, like, will that almost be like a commonality where foreigners can be elected president?

00:50:50.000 Well, notice Schwarzenegger is saying Palin can't be president.

00:50:54.000 Vice President or President.

00:50:56.000 See, that's another little tip off.

00:50:58.000 Schwarzenegger's basically going for Obama.

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00:52:07.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

00:52:10.000 But who is the enemy?

00:52:11.000 Bin Laden.

00:52:12.000 This is his M.O.

00:52:13.000 We have to look to the Middle East.

00:52:15.000 We have to look to Osama Bin Laden. 0.93

00:52:17.000 Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.

00:52:24.000 Some U.S.

00:52:24.000 investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.

00:52:31.000 I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.

00:52:34.000 Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.

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00:53:55.000 Do it now or become property of the New World Order. 0.99

00:53:59.000 I wish your butt was still silver. 0.95

00:54:14.000 It was back when the country was strong. 0.96

00:54:23.000 Back before Elvis and before the Vietnam War came along.

00:54:31.000 Before the Beatles and yesterday.

00:54:38.000 Amen.

00:54:39.000 Thank you.

00:54:41.000 When a man could still work, still would. 1.00

00:54:46.000 It's the best of the free life behind us now.

00:54:55.000 And are the good times really over for good?

00:54:59.000 And I'll be rolling downhill like a snowball headed for hell.

00:55:11.000 With no kind of chance for the flag of the liberty fair.

00:55:22.000 I like the end of the song.

00:55:23.000 Stop rolling downhill like a snowball headed for hell.

00:55:30.000 Will still last ten years like it should.

00:55:36.000 Let's go ahead here and talk to Mike in Florida.

00:55:43.000 You're on the air, Mike.

00:55:45.000 Hi, Alex.

00:55:46.000 First-time caller, long-time listener, PrisonPlanet.tv member, military veteran.

00:55:51.000 Now, that being said, I'm referencing E. Howard Hunt's Thank you so much for putting this out.

00:55:58.000 It's unbelievable.

00:55:59.000 I have to reference the television show, The X-Files, in the episode, Musings of a Cigarette-Smoking Man, when the person that was called to take out Kennedy sitting in the waiting room, they reference him and say, all right, you can go in now, Mr. Hunt.

00:56:12.000 I believe they're referencing him as he was the one that was in the sewer that pulled the trigger.

00:56:15.000 I don't know that to be true.

00:56:17.000 Well, do you know where the CIA recruited E. Howard Hunt?

00:56:21.000 No, I don't.

00:56:22.000 He was O.S.S.

00:56:24.000 when there was a secret war in China before the war even got fully declared and he was a top sniper in World War II against the Japanese in China.

00:56:40.000 So he was O.S.S.

00:56:41.000 and then he was O.S.S.

00:56:42.000 at the end of the war in Germany helping bring in Nazis.

00:56:47.000 Operation Paperclip.

00:56:48.000 Yeah, I mean, I mean, the guy was there from the ground floor.

00:56:51.000 So yes, he is a black op commander who started out in the field, uh, sniping, uh, it's classified how many confirmed kills he had, but yes, top sniper.

00:57:02.000 Right on.

00:57:03.000 And, uh, just real quick, The series, The X-Files, how relevant do you believe that show is?

00:57:08.000 I'm wondering where they got most of that information from, because most of the show is really before the internet got huge in the early 90s, 94, 95, when Operation Paperclip was one of the episodes on The X-Files.

00:57:20.000 What they do is they mix Operation Paperclip and GMO, Deadly Sunflowers, and All this real stuff with purple-green pus-head aliens and worm creatures and devil cults and chubacabras. 0.93

00:57:34.000 And so then it kind of discredits the whole thing.

00:57:36.000 But I've talked to several people high-level with the X-Files, one of them on air, Dean Haglund, who's also not just a star in X-Files, but also a star in the Lone Gunman, the spinoff.

00:57:47.000 And I got a call a couple years ago, and most people have already heard this story, but you may not if you're asking a question.

00:57:56.000 And I get a call, and it's, um, uh, hi, uh, this is Dean Haglin.

00:58:03.000 I was given your number by a radio producer I was a guest on, KLBJ, uh, 93.7, and I told him I'm a fan of you and I'd like to talk to you.

00:58:12.000 Can I, can I, uh, come by and see you?

00:58:15.000 I'm coming to town next week.

00:58:17.000 I go, come to town?

00:58:18.000 What for?

00:58:18.000 I'm coming to town to see you.

00:58:21.000 And I said, okay, and I called the producer and talked to him.

00:58:24.000 Oh yeah, that's really Dean Haglin.

00:58:26.000 I was like, wow, because he's in quite a few movies and other things.

00:58:28.000 And so when we get back, I'll briefly, when we start the next hour, then we'll get Robert Grodin on at the end after John.

00:58:35.000 I'll come back, so stay there.

00:58:37.000 Mike in Florida.

00:58:38.000 You are listening to GCN.

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00:58:48.000 May I have everybody's attention, please?

00:58:52.000 I've come with a message of information.

00:58:55.000 9-11 was an insight.

00:58:57.000 Do you like being a puppet, sir?

00:58:59.000 Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?

00:59:01.000 How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?

00:59:03.000 Was it engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the C.A.R.?

00:59:09.000 The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.

00:59:17.000 Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.

00:59:22.000 An inside job?

00:59:24.000 How dare you?

00:59:26.000 If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.

00:59:33.000 All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.

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00:59:55.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:58.000 Big Brother.

01:00:05.000 Mainstream media.

01:00:07.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:10.000 You want answers?

01:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:21.000 Alright, we have probably the most informed individual from the day one when Kennedy was killed.

01:00:31.000 He was involved in smuggling out the Bruder film coming up.

01:00:36.000 Robert Broden for about two hours.

01:00:38.000 We may have a surprise guest in the fourth hour today, but regardless, we're taking your calls all day covering the news.

01:00:47.000 Finishing up with Mike in Florida, I was telling the story, he was saying, you know, the X-Files had so much stuff that's really happened, so many real things, like getting the Nazis into the U.S., Operation Paperclip.

01:00:57.000 I was talking about how they were doing that as disinformation, to try to integrate Chupacabras and space aliens and things that can't be proven and probably aren't real, in the case of Chupacabras, and with real things, that discredits it all.

01:01:10.000 But Dean Hagelin calls, wants to talk to me, the star of both TV shows, one of the stars, shows up and says, listen, and the video interview I did at my house is up on PrisonPlanet.tv, it's also all over the web.

01:01:21.000 Then later we had him in studio, he came back a year later, in the studio where I sit, and he had seen my report about how The first episode of The Lone Gunman, the new X-Files series, six months before 9-11, a criminal group inside the Pentagon and defense contractors hijack a jumbo jet by remote control to fly to the World Trade Center.

01:01:44.000 They use a drill of hijacked jets flying into the tower to make NORAD stand down.

01:01:49.000 They're going to blame it on Afghan rebels so they can smart bomb them and start World War III and have arms sales and invade the Middle East and Central Asia. 0.99

01:01:57.000 Now, I mean, how would you make a report, make a movie, where basically exactly what happened, happened?

01:02:05.000 Now, that blew him away, and he said, listen, I talked to Chris Carter and others, and the CIA and NASA and others would come to him and say, hey, here's a script, here's an idea, we'd like to see you incorporate this.

01:02:18.000 And he wouldn't go any further than that.

01:02:20.000 And believe me, he was scared.

01:02:24.000 So I had that directly from the horse's mouth.

01:02:26.000 Directly.

01:02:27.000 And you saw it on air.

01:02:29.000 Again, just amazing.

01:02:30.000 This is called predictive programming.

01:02:34.000 Where they show you something so your subconscious is ready to accept it when it happens.

01:02:42.000 It's just unbelievable.

01:02:44.000 Anything else, Mike?

01:02:47.000 No, that pretty much does it.

01:02:48.000 But Alex, I really want to thank you and everyone else out there that has woken up.

01:02:51.000 And a quote from the cigarette smoking man in the X-Files.

01:02:54.000 People need to think about this.

01:02:55.000 He said, ease a man's conscience and you can take his freedom.

01:02:59.000 But people, wake up!

01:03:00.000 And thank you very much, Alex.

01:03:01.000 I appreciate it.

01:03:01.000 That's right.

01:03:02.000 They tell us it's okay.

01:03:03.000 Lay down.

01:03:03.000 The government's not bad.

01:03:05.000 They're just stupid. 1.00

01:03:06.000 And again, I was sent an email with a video clip of myself taking out a contact and making fun of me. 1.00

01:03:12.000 And I don't care about our enemies who edit me together to, you know, say things like, I hate America.

01:03:18.000 You know, when I was singing the, you know, a fictional song by the New World Order, exposing how they hate America.

01:03:25.000 I mean, that's the kind of stuff they do.

01:03:27.000 But this latest one is that I saw people in the, quote, Patriot movement, you know, seizing on anything to attack me.

01:03:34.000 Oh, look, Alex is making up goblin people. 1.00

01:03:36.000 When I said on air, The BBC is reporting that human species may split into two.

01:03:42.000 That's the headline.

01:03:42.000 BBC.

01:03:43.000 And I pulled it up.

01:03:44.000 There it is, BBC.

01:03:46.000 October 17, 2006.

01:03:51.000 Evolutionary theorist Oliver Currie of the London School of Economics expects a genetic upper class and a dim-witted underclass to emerge.

01:03:58.000 People would become choosier about their sexual partners, causing humanity to delve and divide into two subspecies, he added. 0.86

01:04:05.000 The descendants of the genetic upper class would be tall, slim, healthy, attractive, intelligent, and creative and far cry from the underclass humans, who would have evolved into a dim-witted, ugly, squat, goblin-like creature. 0.96

01:04:16.000 And then it shows an artist's rendering of the superhumans versus the goblin creature.

01:04:20.000 I have to say, a lot of the public actually looks like the goblin creature now, from McDonald's and the rest of it. 0.92

01:04:25.000 But, uh, and then I was saying, that all comes from H.G.

01:04:28.000 Wells and other futurists and theorists, uh, in non-fiction books they wrote.

01:04:34.000 Um, I mean, they all talk like that.

01:04:36.000 The Darwins, they already believe they're two species from interbreeding. 0.99

01:04:39.000 And then that's mainline eugenics.

01:04:42.000 And, uh, there's just a whole bunch of other scientists and writers and, I mean, that's what the elite believes.

01:04:48.000 And then that's what I was reporting.

01:04:52.000 Whatever, make up whatever you want.

01:04:53.000 I just want our good people out there listening to understand the type of deceptions that are being worked out there against us.

01:05:01.000 A day unlike any other in the long course of American history.

01:05:04.000 A terrorist act of war against this country.

01:05:07.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

01:05:10.000 But who is the enemy?

01:05:12.000 Bin Laden.

01:05:13.000 This is his M.O.

01:05:13.000 We have to look to the Middle East.

01:05:15.000 We have to look to Osama Bin Laden. 0.93

01:05:17.000 Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.

01:05:24.000 Some U.S.

01:05:24.000 investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.

01:05:31.000 I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.

01:05:34.000 Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers' ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.

01:05:44.000 Fabled Enemies.

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01:08:00.000 Big Brother.

01:08:06.000 Mainstream media.

01:08:08.000 Government cover-ups.

01:08:10.000 You want answers?

01:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

01:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:24.000 He doesn't like talking about himself, and I'm going to make him talk about himself so you understand the magnitude of the depth and breadth of knowledge that he has.

01:08:37.000 I mean, there's no one living that I know who's been this close to the case.

01:08:42.000 He was the chief advisor and researcher on the film JFK.

01:08:49.000 Just an amazing individual, Robert J. Grodin.

01:08:54.000 I think it's important for him to tell you where he was the day it happened, how he got involved, what he saw.

01:09:02.000 He even has some other evidence that is no secret of the government he has, and it'll be out in the new book he's making.

01:09:09.000 I would be scared to death to even have this.

01:09:11.000 I've seen it.

01:09:13.000 Unbelievable.

01:09:14.000 Unbelievable.

01:09:16.000 And, you know, then we have the funeral.

01:09:22.000 The funeral.

01:09:24.000 director, who's going to be in my new film.

01:09:27.000 He lives here in Austin.

01:09:28.000 He's a very wealthy guy.

01:09:30.000 He ended up building a whole chain of funeral homes across the country.

01:09:33.000 And we interviewed him here in studio.

01:09:38.000 We were going to come interview him the next week and he got run off the road and almost killed an hour before we were going to interview him at his house.

01:09:45.000 I'm not saying that was the government, but St.

01:09:47.000 John Hunt out on a lonely road had a car come up and basically bump his bumper, pull around him, try to run him off the cliffs in Northern California.

01:09:55.000 He got home, his whole house was torn apart, papers stolen, everything rifled through, nothing taken but papers.

01:10:02.000 I mean, this is, you get around this Kennedy thing, It's like when I cover Bilderberg this year and we got death threats and women calling up saying I've gotten them pregnant to my wife and dirty tricks.

01:10:12.000 I mean, that's when you know how real this is.

01:10:14.000 So, getting into this JFK thing, I've always had guests on the cover, but making a film and really getting into it, 45 years later, they are still all over it to protect the system because the sons and grandsons and some of the still living people involved are alive and in the power structure.

01:10:33.000 And I think Bruce Willis said it best after he woke up from seeing my films.

01:10:37.000 He told Vanity Fair that the same people that killed Kennedy are the ones running the shadow government and running things in 9-11 today.

01:10:44.000 Yeah, we woke up Bruce Willis.

01:10:45.000 That's exciting.

01:10:46.000 So for the next two hours, Robert Grodin is our guest.

01:10:50.000 And Robert, let's take it slow.

01:10:52.000 Let's talk about who you are.

01:10:54.000 I mean, you're the guy that got the Subruder film leaked and so much more.

01:10:59.000 At great risk yourself, a secret agent for liberty and freedom, now public.

01:11:04.000 And we're just honored to have you.

01:11:06.000 So spend about the first 10 minutes on yourself and where you've testified and just the whole saga.

01:11:12.000 It's just amazing.

01:11:14.000 Well, Alex, my interest in the Kennedy case started the day it happened.

01:11:19.000 It was my 18th birthday that day.

01:11:22.000 And I somehow felt connected to it that way and started researching it and investigating everything that was available about it from the beginning.

01:11:33.000 And in 1969, through absolute luck, there was no magic powers involved in this thing.

01:11:43.000 I actually got to work on the original Zapruder film and was able to blow it up from 8mm to 35mm and then to use different techniques on the film to steady it, to stabilize the image, slow it down so that the eye could comprehend what was in it.

01:12:05.000 And I kept very quiet about it because it was very plain for anybody to see who would see the film that the shot came from the front, struck the president in the right temple and threw him to the rear.

01:12:18.000 So I kept quiet about it except to a very select handful of researchers within the research community, the credible ones.

01:12:27.000 And I got talked into showing it at Georgetown University in November of 73 for the 10th anniversary.

01:12:36.000 And I showed it and there was a big response to it at the time, but it remained within that context.

01:12:44.000 And then in February of 1975, I was asked to show it again at Boston University.

01:12:51.000 At a major conference called the Politics of Conspiracy.

01:12:55.000 This time it was picked up as a national news story and it broke the case wide open.

01:13:02.000 Within days I was asked to present the evidence before Congress and I did.

01:13:07.000 And Congressman Tom Downing of Virginia introduced legislation to reopen the Kennedy case based on what the film, the photographic evidence showed.

01:13:16.000 He had me named Staff Photographic Consultant to the House Assassinations Committee.

01:13:20.000 That's right, a lot of Americans don't know that the House later found, what they say, 95% sure it was a conspiracy, a government killing.

01:13:30.000 I mean, the average American doesn't know that the Congress has even found that.

01:13:34.000 That's correct.

01:13:35.000 The House Committee ruled that it was a 95% certainty or greater.

01:13:40.000 that there was in fact a conspiracy.

01:13:42.000 Since then, there has been peer review of that evidence, and that peer review of the evidence has increased it from 95% or greater to 98% or greater.

01:13:50.000 Just to digress, because I interrupted, but before I forget this, what did you think when the Dallas Morning News came out and said, yeah, it's been looked at?

01:13:57.000 The government's even looked at it.

01:13:59.000 The fragments found in Connelly don't match the bullet.

01:14:03.000 I mean, on its face, this bullet shoots through all this, you know, the car, two different people, all these bones.

01:14:08.000 It isn't damaged.

01:14:09.000 I mean, it's just childish how ridiculous it is that Los Alamos looks at it and says it's a conspiracy and the acoustics show they killed him multiple shots, you know.

01:14:19.000 I mean, it's incredible, but I'm sorry, continue with, you've gotten up to testifying to Congress.

01:14:25.000 Well, the first group that I testified to was the Rockefeller Commission.

01:14:31.000 That was back in 1975.

01:14:32.000 You mentioned E. Howard Hunt.

01:14:38.000 I testified in 1975 about Hunt's involvement in this, decades before all this new stuff came out.

01:14:46.000 The record that I testified about that is available in the National Archives.

01:14:51.000 It does exist.

01:14:53.000 Uh, and then the next group I testified to was the Senate Intelligence Committee, uh, the Church Committee.

01:14:59.000 And then, uh, to the Househood Committee on Assassinations, the same group that I worked for for, uh, nearly three years.

01:15:06.000 And, uh, then the Assassination Records Review Board testified for five full days to them.

01:15:13.000 Uh, and there absolutely is no question about the fact that there was a conspiracy.

01:15:17.000 The question could be raised as to who was involved in that conspiracy.

01:15:21.000 But there certainly was a conspiracy.

01:15:23.000 There was more than one shooter.

01:15:24.000 There's no question about that.

01:15:26.000 Sure, but we're going to get into that later because it's very important.

01:15:29.000 But I want to first, again, your whole saga, your whole journey, you know, now every week for years down there at the Grassy Knoll in downtown Dallas.

01:15:37.000 I mean, you're probably the most dedicated person, because I've really been more deeply studying the JFK assassination intensely for the last year or so.

01:15:45.000 I'd always looked at it, read a lot of books, interviewed a lot of experts, but it wasn't until I really more deeply researched that I realized how prolific and how dedicated you've been.

01:15:53.000 So continue with your saga.

01:15:56.000 Well, I had been working on the case for my entire adult life from the time I was 18 until about 15 years ago.

01:16:09.000 And I became aware that everybody in the Dallas area who had been working on the Kennedy case had died.

01:16:16.000 Virtually everyone.

01:16:18.000 There was virtually no one left who was doing any credible work.

01:16:22.000 And several people who had been involved in the case started selling out to the other side.

01:16:28.000 Some for great amounts of money.

01:16:32.000 And I made the decision to move down to the Dallas area from Philadelphia.

01:16:39.000 Try to pick up where the others had left off, because the other side was winning by default.

01:16:44.000 There was no one to challenge.

01:16:47.000 The Sixth Floor Museum, which now exists in the old Texas School Book Depository building, their mandate was to present all sides of the issue fairly and equally.

01:16:58.000 Well, obviously they have not done that.

01:17:00.000 They sold out very early on and will only present the Warrant Commission side of the story.

01:17:05.000 uh... it's absolutely uh... horrendous what they've done the amount of damage that they've done through the years people that have uh... for decades been on our side of the issue to try to get the truth out uh... now you can't get them to admit that there was a conspiracy in spite of all the evidence so they present only the war commission side and they were winning by default i thought there needed to be a voice of reason on the other side down here so my wife and i made the decision that i would move down here

01:17:35.000 And carry the standard as it will, and present the evidence to visitors to Dealey Plaza so that they will know that there is an alternative to the official fiction.

01:17:46.000 And that's where I've been now for 15 years.

01:17:48.000 Is it safe to say you've talked to a million people down there?

01:17:51.000 More than that.

01:17:53.000 Certainly more than that.

01:17:54.000 They expect that there's a million visitors a year to Dealey Plaza.

01:17:59.000 And I've been there for 15 years.

01:18:00.000 Now I've been told they've also tried to harass you and use the police and things to push you off the knoll.

01:18:07.000 That's absolutely correct.

01:18:08.000 They've thrown me in jail for it.

01:18:10.000 I've been arrested.

01:18:11.000 I've been ticketed more than 80 times.

01:18:15.000 Harassed over 400 times.

01:18:19.000 I've been attacked in the plaza, one guy with a knife, one with a baseball bat, one with a heavy stick.

01:18:28.000 They tried to run me over twice in the parking lot in Dealey Plaza.

01:18:35.000 But it goes on and on.

01:18:37.000 Obviously, I'm bothering somebody.

01:18:41.000 The city manager, the Dallas city manager gave orders to the police to come and arrest me.

01:18:45.000 They've sent in Homeland Security with machine guns saying I was a terrorist.

01:18:54.000 This has been going on for quite some time and if I wasn't right that wouldn't be happening.

01:19:04.000 It's just incredible and that's when you really know that you're on to something is when you Get the threats, the harassment, not just dealing with police harassment, and then we'll go through all the evidence itself on the case, physical evidence.

01:19:19.000 But I think that some of the strongest evidence is the threats, the harassment, the deaths, and I want to talk about those when we get back.

01:19:27.000 I mean, have you ever been threatened, or how many times have you been threatened?

01:19:30.000 Well, I've been threatened quite a bit.

01:19:32.000 The phone threats are one thing, but the actual attacks in the plaza are something else again.

01:19:39.000 There was one time when I was in the plaza and a guy came up with a hunting knife and tried to stab me.

01:19:44.000 We stopped him, we caught him, called the police four times.

01:19:48.000 They refused to come.

01:19:49.000 We finally had to let him go.

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01:23:56.000 EOTTech.com I read the news today, oh boy About a lucky man who made the grade And though the news was rather sad

01:24:25.000 Well, I just had to laugh I saw the photograph This is a short segment, but a long one's coming up.

01:24:37.000 Don't worry, we've got our guests for more than an hour and a half.

01:24:41.000 A lot to talk about.

01:24:46.000 Robert Grodin, the guy that got the SubRooter film out, and a lot more.

01:24:49.000 He's not tooting his horn here, folks.

01:24:50.000 This guy has, frankly, contributed more than anybody to exposing it.

01:24:56.000 That's when the military industrial complex fully took over the country.

01:25:04.000 Now we've seen all their other exploits.

01:25:08.000 Their fame when it comes to evil.

01:25:11.000 The gangsterism.

01:25:14.000 Um, yeah, Robert, break down the physical threats, the phone calls, what they're like, what you've gone through.

01:25:19.000 I mean, let me guess, do they like to call your wife up and pretend that they're girlfriends of yours?

01:25:25.000 I'm not sure that that ever happened, although I've suspected that perhaps something like that may have.

01:25:30.000 Well, no, that's a favor they do to me, but go ahead.

01:25:33.000 I had a terrific time with the National Enquirer some years ago.

01:25:38.000 When I had moved down here to Texas, the Enquirer called up my wife, assuming that there were problems between us and there weren't. 0.99

01:25:49.000 But they offered her $30,000 to give dirt on me that they could publish. 0.98

01:25:55.000 And she told them to go to hell.

01:25:57.000 Yeah, I just had the National Geographic's doing another 9-11 truth hit piece. 0.94

01:26:04.000 Uh-huh.

01:26:05.000 And they're real sneaky and fake on the phone.

01:26:07.000 They called my wife yesterday and were like, what's it like living with him?

01:26:11.000 Do you like it? 0.99

01:26:11.000 Oh, it must be interesting trying to get her to talk crap. 0.99

01:26:14.000 Uh-huh. 0.99

01:26:14.000 And you know, it's not that I don't want to go on a hit piece, because I don't mind. 0.99

01:26:17.000 I just don't want to be around the unsavory types.

01:26:20.000 It's not that I'm even afraid of being in a hit piece.

01:26:22.000 I think I'm going to just go ahead and do it.

01:26:24.000 It's just that they're just such low-lives.

01:26:26.000 But go ahead.

01:26:27.000 No, I absolutely agree.

01:26:28.000 They absolutely are.

01:26:32.000 They control the business.

01:26:33.000 They really do.

01:26:34.000 The flow of information gets so muddied and so confusing that people that want to learn the truth have such a hard time trying to work their way through all the garbage that's out there.

01:26:47.000 They just get tired of it and many walk away.

01:26:49.000 There's a lot of intriguing stuff that sounds good, sounds interesting, but isn't.

01:26:56.000 And that just tires people out.

01:27:00.000 It's very, very difficult.

01:27:01.000 Even researchers in the case that know what they're talking about get confused with some of the... Well, we're going to get into that, and from your view, Robert Grodin's unique and well-documented view of what really happened.

01:27:12.000 But let's talk about harassment threats.

01:27:15.000 I think all the murders is, again, more evidence of the fact that it was an inside job.

01:27:20.000 Speak to the murders.

01:27:21.000 Well, absolutely.

01:27:24.000 There were a great many people that were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

01:27:28.000 Good people, disinterested people, bad guys, throughout the spectrum.

01:27:36.000 Of people.

01:27:37.000 They've died.

01:27:39.000 Hundreds and hundreds of them.

01:27:41.000 Everyone's familiar with the stuff at the end of the movie, Executive Action, where they talk about the first 18 or 19 or 20 people being killed.

01:27:51.000 But that's all we knew about at the time.

01:27:53.000 We've learned, since then, a great, great deal more have actually died because of it.

01:27:59.000 The number now is well over 400.

01:28:00.000 And yes, of course, there's a certain A percentage of them that are natural causes, there's no question about that. 0.87

01:28:07.000 Just because somebody witnessed the Kennedy assassination or was connected in some minor way to it, doesn't mean they're going to live forever.

01:28:15.000 But there's a disproportionate number of unsolved homicides, questionable deaths, situations where there should have been autopsies and were not.

01:28:24.000 And out-and-out murders.

01:28:26.000 One man killed with a karate chop, one shot to death at a police station by a police officer playing quick-draw.

01:28:32.000 A woman hung in her jail cell. 1.00

01:28:35.000 And on and on and on.

01:28:37.000 It's very, very bizarre.

01:28:39.000 Some of them more famous than others.

01:28:41.000 Dorothy Kilgallen, the only reporter who interviewed Jack Ruby from the time he shot Oswald until the time he himself died.

01:28:49.000 She's one.

01:28:50.000 Lee Bowers, who was in the railroad tower in the parking lot behind the depository, who saw the assassination take place.

01:28:57.000 Yeah, saw Hunt and others scurrying around, Sturgis.

01:29:00.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:29:02.000 And knew more than he ever told.

01:29:05.000 He learned early on that the Warren Commission did not want to know what he had to say.

01:29:09.000 And whenever he started talking about what he saw, they would always lead him away from it.

01:29:13.000 He said he realized they didn't want to know, so he kept quiet.

01:29:17.000 But then Jim Garrison was going to call him as a witness in the Shaw trial in New Orleans.

01:29:22.000 And, uh, that's where the problems began again, because... Yeah, you know, we told Barry Jennings and everybody with the 9-11, with the bombs in the buildings, uh, the deputy head of emergency management, we said, buddy, you better spill it all, or they're gonna kill you.

01:29:34.000 Well, he's dead.

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01:29:38.000 And I just try to tell whistleblowers all the time, you had better spill it all and get it all out, or you are deader than a hammer.

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01:31:53.000 either you are with us or you are with the terrorists i had the opportunity to speak to my 90 year old grandmother at some length here recently and she was talking about the great depression we were talking about the gas prices the food prices this economic uncertainty we're in these you know really kind of perilous times I had the opportunity to speak to my 90-year-old grandmother at some length here recently, and she was talking about the Great Depression, and we were talking about the gas prices, the food prices, this economic uncertainty we're in, these really kind of perilous times.

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01:33:21.000 Robert Grodin, the hardest working, most focused JFK researcher, the guy that got the Subruder film out.

01:33:28.000 All of those with Kennedy's head blown open like a pumpkin and so much more.

01:33:34.000 And, you know, you are the expert in all this.

01:33:41.000 You are the master, as they say.

01:33:43.000 So, I've thrown out some of my questions.

01:33:45.000 Let's finish up with all these bizarre deaths and murders and the threats and the rest of it, which, again, is prima facie evidence.

01:33:52.000 And then get into all the hard evidence.

01:33:55.000 I mean, you've won the fight.

01:33:57.000 We've won the fight.

01:33:58.000 Ninety-plus percent of Americans know they're lying about it.

01:34:01.000 And then that's when the shadow government took over, so we can also talk about that.

01:34:05.000 But I think people from the preeminent expert need to hear what the real evidence is and lay it out.

01:34:11.000 So, you've got the floor, sir.

01:34:14.000 Well, you speak very kindly and I do appreciate that.

01:34:19.000 What I would suggest is that the most important evidence that I've been able to develop, except for the Zapruder film itself, of course, which, you know, stands on its own,

01:34:30.000 I interviewed, when I worked for the House Assassinations Committee as a photographic researcher, I actually had the opportunity to question and videotape the Dallas doctors who had never spoken before or since about what they had seen.

01:34:51.000 And they were unanimous that the fatal shot came from the front.

01:34:56.000 Whenever the Discovery Channel or the History Channel or any of those people do any of the horrible excuses for documentaries that they've been showing the last couple of years, please notice that they avoid the Dallas Doctors like the plague.

01:35:16.000 The doctors had nothing to gain, nothing on their own.

01:35:19.000 In my interviews with them, they were absolutely unanimous that the shot came from the right front.

01:35:26.000 And these are people who unfortunately all except six or seven of them now are all dead.

01:35:30.000 And the interviews I was able to do with them are the only thing that captured for history their observations.

01:35:37.000 So I'd say that that is among the most important of all the evidence that's out there.

01:35:42.000 These are professional people. 0.99

01:35:44.000 Now, the other side, the idiots on the other side who say, well, they weren't forensic pathologists. 1.00

01:35:50.000 So what? 1.00

01:35:51.000 These are doctors who worked on a daily basis with gunshot wounds, knew what they were talking about, and they saw the body.

01:35:58.000 They saw the president.

01:36:00.000 They saw him while he was still breathing, for crying out loud.

01:36:05.000 How dare the people on the other side, specifically people like Bouliosi and Posner and the rest of them, how dare they ignore or pretend to ignore the observations of these professional people?

01:36:22.000 It's absolutely inexcusable.

01:36:24.000 If you watch a documentary and they avoid what the Dallas Doctors said, it's a dishonest documentary.

01:36:30.000 It's that simple.

01:36:31.000 There's no easier way to put it.

01:36:34.000 The idea, for instance, of the single bullet theory, that one bullet went through both men, Governor Connolly and then on, after hitting President Kennedy.

01:36:45.000 If you line up the wounds in the President's back and Governor Connolly's back, you find that the wound in the President's throat, which was described by everyone who saw it as an entrance wound in the first place, but even ignoring that, it's six inches too high to go through a flight path.

01:37:02.000 And the other side will say, well, we don't have any pictures at the moment of the single bullet, so we don't know how high they were sitting.

01:37:09.000 That's an absolute lie.

01:37:11.000 There is a photograph taken at the exact moment that the single bullet was supposed to have happened.

01:37:16.000 And we see exactly how high they were in relationship to each other.

01:37:23.000 All of this is all going to be in my new book, which is called JFK Absolute Proof.

01:37:28.000 Hopefully it should be out within the next couple of months.

01:37:30.000 But, you know, the photographic evidence was basically withheld by the government for decades.

01:37:37.000 The Warren Commission released very, very little of it.

01:37:40.000 I myself have already released over 1,200, and I'm releasing 800 more in the new book.

01:37:45.000 So that's 2,000 photographs that the government tried to ignore or pretend didn't exist.

01:37:51.000 The evidence is there, and your audience is a thinking audience.

01:37:55.000 They'll be able to tell for themselves, and I'm sure that they're aware of the conspiracy.

01:38:00.000 I'm sure that it's no secret to them.

01:38:04.000 Well, let me continue.

01:38:05.000 Continue.

01:38:06.000 I mean, you've got the floor.

01:38:07.000 I want you to really be able to run, sir.

01:38:09.000 Well, let's see.

01:38:09.000 Oh my goodness.

01:38:10.000 How about a, uh...

01:38:12.000 Two and a half page document signed by the Director of the CIA admitting three things.

01:38:17.000 Number one, that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't kill the President.

01:38:20.000 Number two, that he worked for the CIA.

01:38:22.000 And number three, that he was sent to the Soviet Union on a mission from the United States.

01:38:28.000 Signed by the Director of the CIA himself, John McCone.

01:38:33.000 That's out there.

01:38:34.000 That exists.

01:38:36.000 Let's see, what else?

01:38:37.000 How about the issue of the President's brain being missing from the National Archives as of 1966 that we know of, probably before that.

01:38:48.000 Well, we know where the brain is.

01:38:50.000 I'm going to reveal that in the new book, too.

01:38:52.000 I've got photographs of it.

01:38:56.000 The other side just constantly lies to us about what does exist or what doesn't exist.

01:39:04.000 The evidence just goes on and on.

01:39:06.000 Oh, one thing that's in the new book that you'll find fascinating, at the time when Lee Harvey Oswald was taken to Parkland Hospital in the life-saving efforts to try to save his life, there were seven rolls of film taken of him while he was still breathing and on the operating table.

01:39:25.000 Well, these rolls of film were not even processed, weren't even developed until last year.

01:39:32.000 So Kennedy was one tough cookie?

01:39:36.000 The President?

01:39:36.000 Yeah.

01:39:37.000 Oh yeah.

01:39:38.000 Well, these photographs that exist, there are 85 usable images of Oswald while they were trying to save his life.

01:39:46.000 And some of the pictures actually showed the heart monitor showing a good, strong heartbeat.

01:39:51.000 He should have survived.

01:39:53.000 Yeah, I meant to say, I was thinking about Kennedy.

01:39:53.000 But he didn't.

01:39:55.000 Obviously, I knew you were talking about Oswald there.

01:40:00.000 Because I have on my mind the photos you have that no one's seen of Kennedy on the table.

01:40:06.000 Yeah, there's some that, as a matter of fact, there was one photograph I found in the National Archives when I was working for the House Assassinations Committee that to this day is still not in the official inventory.

01:40:19.000 It's a series of black and white photographs taken on 120 format film.

01:40:24.000 They're all black and white.

01:40:26.000 And they show the president lying on a table from the left side.

01:40:31.000 We see him from the left side.

01:40:33.000 Most of the damage to his head was on the right side.

01:40:36.000 But you see him lying there, and this roll of film is described in the official inventory as being blank, with no image.

01:40:44.000 Well, there's at least a half a dozen images on that roll of film.

01:40:47.000 They're all pretty much identical.

01:40:49.000 And describe that for us, and let's go back to Lee Harvey Oswald, because I interrupted, but I mean, I mean, you're happy to, I mean, you can describe it, can't you, before the book comes out?

01:40:57.000 I think it's dangerous that you even have now announced that you've, you know, had this at the Knolls so much, and it isn't public.

01:41:02.000 I mean, I mean, the whole back of the head is just completely blown out, and that contradicts what they officially said.

01:41:08.000 Yes, there's a massive hole in the rear of his head, just slightly larger than a grown man's fist.

01:41:15.000 And that's the way it was described.

01:41:17.000 By the way, it looks like they folded the flaps back in.

01:41:20.000 I mean, I disagree.

01:41:21.000 I think it's bigger than a man's fist.

01:41:23.000 I mean, it's just a giant, gaping thing.

01:41:25.000 And you can see, at least when I was allowed to look at it, that they had folded some of the flaps back in.

01:41:32.000 Well, that may very well be true.

01:41:35.000 What they actually did, what someone within the government did, is they actually took that photograph And they did something called a soft edge matte insert process.

01:41:46.000 And to fool the researchers, not the researchers, but the investigators within the case, within the government, who had the ability to see the photographs, because they still have not been formally released.

01:41:56.000 They actually superimposed the back of somebody else's head to disguise this massive exit wound in the rear of his head.

01:42:03.000 Uh, we have... Yeah, that's the big issue.

01:42:05.000 You have the fake photos that were put out, and then an artist's renderings, and then you have the real ones.

01:42:09.000 That's correct.

01:42:11.000 That's correct.

01:42:11.000 I mean, there's evidence right there!

01:42:12.000 A cover-up, and that's the evidence of the crime right there!

01:42:16.000 Absolutely.

01:42:16.000 Well, you know, when the House Assassinations Committee was going to begin their investigation, they were going to start from square one.

01:42:24.000 Start absolutely as an unsolved homicide and work from there.

01:42:28.000 And that would have worked.

01:42:30.000 It could have worked.

01:42:31.000 But instead, when it was taken over by people with connections to the CIA, and unfortunately that is the truth, that's what happened, they dumped that whole aspect of it, started with the preconceived conclusion that Oswald was guilty, and worked from that point.

01:42:48.000 They ignored the original concept completely, and when you start with that, the way they did it is they took each individual piece of evidence, And they weighed that individual piece of evidence against the total weight of the Warren report.

01:43:08.000 If you take each one and you weigh it and then see which one weighs more and throw out each individual piece, then you end up with nothing.

01:43:16.000 But if you took all those individual little pieces and weighed them against the Warren Report, all those pieces far outweigh the Warren Report, but they didn't do it that way.

01:43:26.000 So they started with the conclusion that Oswald was guilty, and until they got to the acoustics evidence, that's the way they dealt with it.

01:43:33.000 The acoustics evidence was so strong on its own that they couldn't hide it anymore.

01:43:38.000 They had to admit that there was a conspiracy.

01:43:41.000 But by then, they had thrown away so much supporting evidence That many people feel that the acoustics evidence was all that they had, and that's not true at all.

01:43:50.000 They had testimony of a man named Robert Knudsen.

01:43:53.000 Mr. Knudsen was a photographer.

01:43:55.000 He was supposed to be on the trip to Dallas, but he had gotten something into his eye and had to see a doctor, so he didn't go.

01:44:03.000 But he was called in to play as an autopsy photographer that evening.

01:44:11.000 When the President's body was back there, he took photographs, he was there as a witness, and he saw the angles of the shots, he saw the massive wound on the rear of the President's head, and he testified to the House Flood Committee on Assassinations that the photographs and evidence now did not represent the President's head as it was that night.

01:44:32.000 And they had that, and they buried it.

01:44:34.000 The House Committee never even admitted that they even spoke to Robert Knudsen.

01:44:38.000 We didn't find out about that until the Assassination Records Review Board, years and years later.

01:44:44.000 Okay, I want to go back, as I interrupted you, when you were talking about Lee Harvey Oswald still being alive.

01:44:49.000 Go back over that in a minute, and then finish up.

01:44:52.000 Okay, Lee Oswald, you know, the official story, or one of the official stories we've heard through the years, Is that Lee had died on the way to the hospital, that he never survived, that he was dead on arrival when he got to Parkland.

01:45:07.000 And they tried and they tried and they tried for an hour to try to revive him and of course they couldn't.

01:45:12.000 Well that's not true.

01:45:14.000 Lee was doing fine.

01:45:15.000 They were controlling much of the bleeding, although there was a lot of damage done.

01:45:21.000 The photographs I have of him, he's cut open, he's lying on the table, they're doing heart massage, they're removing damaged parts of his body.

01:45:30.000 But they also show the heart monitor.

01:45:35.000 And his heart monitor had a good, strong, solid, steady heartbeat.

01:45:39.000 There is no way he should have died.

01:45:42.000 And by the way, officially, he did not die from the gunshot wound itself, per se, but rather from shock.

01:45:50.000 As a result of the gunshot wound.

01:45:53.000 So, there's a lot of questions as to his dying.

01:45:57.000 Of course, by now, almost everyone who's familiar with the Kennedy case is aware that there was a phone call made to the operating room directly from President Johnson, stating to the doctors that he wanted a confession from Oswald before he died, knowing that he would die.

01:46:16.000 Which is very strange.

01:46:19.000 Let's talk about Dallas itself, and then, well, finish what you're making now, and then Dallas.

01:46:24.000 Because, I mean, Dallas was the heart of CIA police corruption.

01:46:29.000 I grew up there.

01:46:30.000 A perfect place with a kind of brainwashed public believing in mom and apple pie and the government's all loving.

01:46:37.000 A very serious, cold-blooded police department with connections to the CIA director and others in the department.

01:46:44.000 I mean, why Dallas was chosen, but finish up.

01:46:47.000 Well, why Dallas was chosen was because it was absolutely a hotbed of ultra-right-wing fanaticism.

01:46:56.000 Lyndon Johnson and others had a great deal of control in Dallas.

01:47:01.000 It would be much easier to control the investigation and the cover-up here than it would almost anywhere else in the country.

01:47:11.000 Everybody would cooperate.

01:47:13.000 Nobody would argue with the With the official investigation, which by the way, let me point that out too.

01:47:22.000 The official investigation historically into the Kennedy assassination was done by the Warren Commission.

01:47:28.000 The Warren Commission had absolutely no legal power at all.

01:47:32.000 It was the President's Commission investigating a local crime.

01:47:37.000 The death of President Kennedy was not a federal crime.

01:47:40.000 It was a local Dallas crime.

01:47:44.000 The investigation should have been controlled either by the Dallas District Attorney or by the Texas State Attorney General's Office.

01:47:52.000 No matter what the Warren Commission did, they could do nothing.

01:47:56.000 They had subpoena power, but that was it.

01:47:58.000 And they didn't really even use it.

01:48:02.000 They could have subpoenaed Jack Ruby out of the Dallas area, brought him to Washington, where he could have told them the truth about what happened, as he pleaded with them to do.

01:48:11.000 And they ignored him.

01:48:12.000 They paid no attention to him.

01:48:14.000 They told him they didn't have the power to get him out of here, and Jack Ruby, this petty crook, this mobster who had been involved with Al Capone from the time he was a child until he moved out of the Chicago area, He asked Earl Warren, he says, well, Mr. Chief Justice, you do have subpoena power, don't you?

01:48:37.000 And the Chief Justice of the United States, one of the two or three highest ranking law enforcement officials in the world, had to admit that this petty crook had him on a point of law.

01:48:47.000 So, you know, they refused to get him out of here.

01:48:50.000 They said, Jack, if you feel you're in danger, we can terminate this interview anytime.

01:48:54.000 That's not how you find the truth.

01:48:58.000 What about Ruby's death?

01:49:01.000 Ruby's death, of course, will always remain a mystery.

01:49:04.000 Many people feel that he knew he had cancer, so it was easy to control him and get him to do this.

01:49:09.000 Well, I know the doctor who had diagnosed Jack with Ruby two years later.

01:49:16.000 Apparently, Jack had no idea that he had cancer, and he may not have originally.

01:49:20.000 Ruby himself kept screaming that they were giving him cancer.

01:49:23.000 They were forcing him to have injections.

01:49:26.000 And he was convinced that they were injecting him with cancer cells.

01:49:29.000 And it turned out later the CIA in the 50s and 60s had developed fast-acting cancers for bio-warfare.

01:49:35.000 Absolutely so.

01:49:36.000 No question about that.

01:49:39.000 Interesting as far as that goes.

01:49:41.000 Jack eventually did die, apparently, of cancer.

01:49:46.000 But when I was doing research on one of my earlier books, I called up the Sloan-Kettering Cancer Institute in New York, one of the most impressive and best cancer research units in the world, and I asked them how easy it would be to give somebody cancer.

01:50:06.000 And they told me that you cannot give a living organism cancer through injection like that.

01:50:12.000 And I said, wait a minute, you do it with lab rats every day!

01:50:15.000 And they hung up on me.

01:50:18.000 Yeah, because you were Calling the experts.

01:50:20.000 I wonder who's involved in things.

01:50:22.000 The experts.

01:50:23.000 And of course, they admit the polio.

01:50:25.000 Oral and others had the live SV40 that gave millions cancer.

01:50:29.000 So, I mean, that's like denying the sun comes up in the morning.

01:50:33.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:50:35.000 Let me go ahead, you were making a point.

01:50:36.000 No, I was going to say that Lee Oswald, when he was working in the summer of 1963 in New Orleans, was working with the Ochsner Institute that was doing this kind of research on how to give cancers to people that were trying to... Stay there, stay there.

01:50:52.000 We're going to come back and talk about that because there was also this obsession down in New Orleans with cancer and giving people cancer, treating cancer.

01:50:59.000 We'll be right back.

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01:54:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:54:31.000 Miss that de-Babylon system. 1.00

01:54:37.000 Yes, the vampire. 1.00

01:54:39.000 We have a government run by a bunch of control freak, parasite, vampire schools. 0.99

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01:54:50.000 It's parasite. 0.97

01:54:53.000 Female the species to get protein to produce eggs sucks your blood. 1.00

01:54:59.000 The news will take that out of context and have me on air. 0.87

01:55:01.000 That's what they do.

01:55:02.000 The news.

01:55:03.000 People on the web saying vampires run things.

01:55:06.000 I think that happened last week.

01:55:08.000 I'm saying figurative vampires. 0.99

01:55:11.000 Sucking off the population. 0.99

01:55:12.000 I mean, what was black slavery in this country? 0.99

01:55:16.000 It was a parasitic activity.

01:55:22.000 The media is so deceptive how they try to twist everything we do.

01:55:25.000 And, Robert, I know you've run into a lot of that yourself.

01:55:28.000 We were continuing with the cancer research, and Oswald's girlfriend working for all this and what she said, continuing down that line.

01:55:40.000 Well, you're referring there to Judy Baker, who was Oswald's girlfriend in New Orleans for some period of time in the summer of 1963.

01:55:53.000 And she worked for Ochsner as well, as Lee did too, I guess more or less as a lower level person.

01:56:02.000 She was a high level researcher, but Lee and David Ferry were both involved in the same organization.

01:56:14.000 They were doing cancer research.

01:56:16.000 Ostensibly, what they were trying to do was develop a fast-acting cancer that could be given to, of all people, Fidel Castro, and that's what they were investigating and dealing with.

01:56:33.000 I feel that the fact that Lee knew so much about this, that he became dangerous.

01:56:39.000 He knew far too much about this stuff and needed to be eliminated.

01:56:43.000 And when they needed a patsy to blame the assassination on, that's where they chose him.

01:56:48.000 He was expendable and they wanted to get rid of him anyway.

01:56:51.000 And of course, his background, it's well established that he was a CIA operative.

01:56:58.000 Do you know specifically, I know he's been mentioned in some control letters and other things, and he was at the U2 base and sent to Russia, allowed to defect back.

01:57:06.000 I mean, that's a no-brainer right there.

01:57:08.000 That was an inside job and he was an operative.

01:57:10.000 But specifically, who Oswald was in the organization?

01:57:14.000 Lee Oswald was apparently a highly trained CIA operative who was, according to these memos and the information that we have, he was actually sent to the Soviet Union on a mission he had no intention of ever defecting.

01:57:35.000 And by the way, the other side in some of the later books, actually all along they've been saying it, That Oswald had defected to the Soviet Union.

01:57:45.000 Oswald never defected to the Soviet Union.

01:57:47.000 He went there, he announced his intention to defect, but he never did.

01:57:51.000 Never quite got around to it.

01:57:54.000 And when he wanted to come back to the United States, we brought him back. 0.99

01:57:57.000 There's no formal record that he was ever debriefed.

01:58:01.000 In fact, he was debriefed, certainly, but there's no formal record that he ever was.

01:58:07.000 And instead of being arrested and tried as a traitor for giving them the information about the U-2 spy flights, we give him the money to come back.

01:58:15.000 He comes back and nothing is ever done to him.

01:58:20.000 This alone raises lots and lots and lots of questions as to who you are.

01:58:25.000 And then he's married into the white Russian community in Dallas.

01:58:30.000 Or friends with the people in the white Russian community.

01:58:32.000 We'll be right back in one minute.

01:58:34.000 And all you government operatives who are listening, White McVeigh and Oswald and all of them, you get set up, atta!

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01:58:51.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

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02:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:22.000 So many people that have woken up to the world government, the corruption, the tyranny.

02:00:26.000 The propaganda of the military-industrial complex woke up because of the JFK assassination.

02:00:33.000 I'm going to be speaking with Jesse Ventura and Willie Nelson at a Willie Nelson event coming up Sunday.

02:00:39.000 It'll be streamed live and free over the web.

02:00:41.000 People are asking, where are the players for the show?

02:00:44.000 They'll be up there by tomorrow, but it won't be live until about nine o'clock at night.

02:00:48.000 So just go there, click on it, it'll be there.

02:00:50.000 The point is, that's what woke up Jesse Ventura.

02:00:51.000 That's what woke up so many others.

02:00:53.000 And we're talking to the man who got the Subruder film out.

02:00:57.000 Robert Grodin, he did so much more, and he really is the preeminent individual exposing all of this.

02:01:01.000 We're going to go through what really happened that day from all the evidence he has.

02:01:05.000 We've been, you know, going into different areas of it, different interesting areas of it.

02:01:10.000 Robert Grodin, I mean, do you want to just go ahead now and start, and then I want to take calls later in the hour, walking through from your research how this was really pulled off, and who was involved, and how this was done?

02:01:25.000 Well, the most commonly asked question, again, I'm in Dealey Plaza every weekend, every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, unless it's raining or snowing, all year long.

02:01:35.000 And the most common question I'm asked is, who killed President Kennedy and why?

02:01:44.000 Well, the government in 1979, through the House Assassinations Committee, released a report stating that it was organized crime.

02:01:55.000 And I agree, it was organized crime, but not only organized crime.

02:01:59.000 The covert actions branch of the Central Intelligence Agency had been at war with President Kennedy since the time of the Bay of Pigs.

02:02:06.000 When he announced that he was ending the Vietnam War one month and eleven days before he was killed, they must have panicked like crazy.

02:02:16.000 It was big business, it was survival, it was massive amounts of money, billions of dollars.

02:02:23.000 And I personally believe that that's the main reason why the president was killed.

02:02:28.000 Yes, there was certainly the war against organized crime, that these people were not going to just roll over and play dead.

02:02:35.000 They were going to fight back, and they did.

02:02:38.000 But the covert actions branch of the CIA was definitely involved in this.

02:02:41.000 Their fingerprints are all over everything.

02:02:44.000 So that's Harvey?

02:02:45.000 Well, yeah, through Lee Harvey Oswald and William Harvey, sure.

02:02:49.000 But also James Angleton and others as well.

02:02:53.000 There were many people at the top that hated President Kennedy.

02:02:57.000 Al Fletcher Prouty, who was liaison officer between the CIA and the White House and the military at the time of the assassination, was a good friend of mine and told me many, many times through the years that the CIA was not going to just roll over and play dead and allow a single civilian in the White House to affect or control the CIA.

02:03:23.000 And, uh, as a matter of fact, I was friends with, uh, Ruth Carter Stapleton, Jimmy Carter's sister.

02:03:29.000 Uh, she told me that her brother was well aware of the conspiracy to kill President Kennedy, and that he was trying to find out what happened and get the information out, but that the CIA was laughing at him, that they paid no attention to him at all.

02:03:43.000 It's, you know, you talk about a shadow government, the shadow is larger than the source of the shadow, unfortunately.

02:03:49.000 And, uh, you know, when we're talking about who's responsible for the death of President Kennedy, it's impossible to ignore Lyndon Johnson.

02:03:58.000 It's absolutely impossible.

02:04:00.000 Uh, you know, at what point was he involved?

02:04:03.000 Was he a planner?

02:04:04.000 Uh, did he know about it and do nothing?

02:04:07.000 We don't know that, for sure.

02:04:09.000 We really don't.

02:04:10.000 But, uh, we do know that he knew that it was going to happen, and he could have prevented it, or at least attempted to, and he did not.

02:04:18.000 Knowing, I think, himself that he would be a target if he did try.

02:04:22.000 But when you look at motive, For killing the President, the greatest motive, and there's lots of other possibilities, certainly.

02:04:32.000 I'm not denying that.

02:04:34.000 But the one that carries the greatest weight of evidence, and the one that makes the most sense, is to perpetuate and expand the Vietnam War.

02:04:42.000 That, to me, is the ultimate... You're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars.

02:04:47.000 Oh, yeah.

02:04:48.000 Close to a trillion, and that was in those numbers, in the eight, nine years of the full-scale war.

02:04:55.000 And then all his buddies dredging them.

02:04:57.000 The, um, the ocean.

02:04:59.000 We'll be right back.

02:05:01.000 You know, as a father and a husband, one of the enjoyable things in my life has been walking in at night and checking on my children, checking up on my wife, making sure she has the things she needs, but mostly providing for my family and knowing that they're secure, that they feel comfortable every day in their little skins.

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02:08:18.000 Your chance to talk to one of the preeminent JFK researchers, certainly the most dedicated, and the person exposing it from day one as well.

02:08:33.000 Robert Grodin, down there many days a week, in all sorts of weather, at the site of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

02:08:47.000 We were getting into LBJ, and obviously there were power elites that put him in control, but LBJ is the prime mover, and having a serious motive Wanting to be the king, wanting to be the president, and just the unbelievable amount of capital being transferred to the Southeast Asian war.

02:09:11.000 We also have, of course, him wanting to get rid of the Federal Reserve's sole power to issue the currency or tell the Treasury what to print with Lincoln Greenbacks.

02:09:21.000 He was firing L.L.

02:09:22.000 Lemonsir and others, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and others, for wanting to stage terror attacks in the U.S.

02:09:28.000 to blame it on Cuba.

02:09:29.000 I mean, Kennedy really was not going along with the game plan.

02:09:33.000 And to understand where we are today, we have to understand who these individuals are.

02:09:36.000 You know, you were just talking about the arrogance of the CIA.

02:09:39.000 I mean, it's sick!

02:09:41.000 They ship the heroin, the cocaine in, they get caught all the time.

02:09:45.000 Then they put our children in their private prisons, owned by the big banks that launder the money.

02:09:49.000 And that's not enough for them.

02:09:51.000 Now it's Homeland Security.

02:09:53.000 And the military-industrial complex is literally eating, absorbing.

02:09:58.000 The real economy and the same crew in Wall Street that set up the CIA is just looting the currency.

02:10:07.000 They're not going to go away by themselves.

02:10:09.000 In fact, they're just going to keep expanding like a cancer.

02:10:12.000 So before we get more into the data of how they killed him, why they killed him, what really happened that day, the best evidence, your view on Well, the statement I'm making about the same institutions, the same crew, their children, these institutions, they are basically running the same covert ops they run in third world countries on a wider scale now here in the United States.

02:10:37.000 And your view on the military industrial complex, the national security state, Robert Grodin?

02:10:43.000 Well, I can't argue with a single thing that you said.

02:10:46.000 I will add only that a lot of people feel that Johnson's involvement in the Kennedy assassination is too easy an answer.

02:10:57.000 To that, I would add simply that it would do the powers that be no good to eliminate John Kennedy if his successor, Lyndon Johnson, wasn't willing to make the changes that they wanted.

02:11:11.000 They would have to get an agreement from him in advance.

02:11:14.000 Yeah, the two go together so it fit like a horse and carriage.

02:11:18.000 Well, absolutely.

02:11:20.000 But the point, though... It's when you have this convergence of interests is when you get things like this.

02:11:25.000 Go ahead.

02:11:25.000 The thing is, they had to know that he would go along with their game plan.

02:11:30.000 Otherwise, it would do them no good to eliminate President Kennedy.

02:11:34.000 They had to have his agreement ahead of time that he would do what they wanted.

02:11:39.000 And that makes him an accessory before the fact.

02:11:41.000 What about LBJ riding around on the radio, talking on it, looking very wolf-like, like he was on a rabbit hunt?

02:11:49.000 You've got at the airport, waving the Secret Service off, the Secret Service getting mad about the route.

02:11:56.000 Well, yeah, the thing is that Johnson, through the years, had to make himself look innocent.

02:12:02.000 He created the Warren Commission, which had absolutely no power whatsoever to do anything, and then ordered them to find that there was no conspiracy.

02:12:12.000 Now, Johnson himself, in later years, admitted that the Warren Commission was wrong, that we would never know the whole truth about the assassination in our lifetime.

02:12:20.000 And that basically was at a point where nothing could be done one way or the other to try to resolve it.

02:12:27.000 So he's now creating a cover to make himself look like he's innocent, and that he disagreed with the Warren Commission.

02:12:33.000 He ordered them to do what they did.

02:12:36.000 That was the mandate, was to stop the rumors of conspiracy, not to find out who killed President Kennedy.

02:12:42.000 And it was the same thing with the 9-11 Commission.

02:12:44.000 And then they came out and said the President wouldn't let them do their job.

02:12:48.000 And it's just pointing fingers at each other.

02:12:51.000 Oh, man.

02:12:52.000 Well, history does repeat itself.

02:12:57.000 Where do you see it going?

02:12:58.000 Just the corruption to where finally CIA commanders wear crowns and we have to bow to them in the streets and they just start I mean, will it devolve, I mean, sarcastic down to them just hunting our children in the streets and publicly barbecuing them?

02:13:13.000 I mean, I mean, I mean, because that's the logical extension of empires and corrupt elites.

02:13:18.000 I mean, will this Wall Street banking CIA shadow government?

02:13:22.000 I mean, they're just, they don't even care now.

02:13:24.000 They're just right out in the open.

02:13:26.000 Well, again, these are the nightmares that we don't really like to think about.

02:13:30.000 And certainly, you know, those are the horror stories that are nightmares.

02:13:35.000 Uh, the point of the matter is that if they can kill the President of the United States, they can kill anybody.

02:13:41.000 And, you know, Big Brother is always watching. 0.73

02:13:44.000 They're always listening.

02:13:46.000 And, you know, I personally would like to think that the things that you're talking about could never happen, but we all know that it's entirely possible that they will.

02:13:57.000 And, you know, I don't see an answer to being able to deal with that, because they control the national news media, they control the broadcast licenses of television stations, they control access to the presidential news conferences, that if a reporter disagrees with what Bush says, they can't show up at the conferences.

02:14:20.000 They don't get the press handouts.

02:14:22.000 That's how they survive.

02:14:23.000 Well, of course, I was being sarcastic, but if you look at Rome or the Aztecs or any of it, The majority of the time, when tyrannies are never checked, they just get crazier and crazier.

02:14:33.000 I mean, it's wrong, guys, in the government, I know you're cold-blooded and don't care and think you're tough because you're cynical, to ship heroin and cocaine in and then turn cops loose on us, SWAT-teaming our houses, you know, for small amounts of it and put people in prison.

02:14:47.000 It's wrong, all the predatory things they're doing.

02:14:50.000 I mean, it's just... In reality, the bad guys never get punished.

02:14:56.000 They just go on and on and now they're fully debasing the currency and transferring trillions in the bailout directly to their own coffers.

02:15:04.000 I mean, it's just everything's off the chart.

02:15:06.000 I mean, I wonder what's coming next.

02:15:09.000 But one thing that's definitely not coming next is our own personal bailouts.

02:15:14.000 I want a bailout too.

02:15:17.000 You know, I'm being a little sarcastic there, but let's face it, you know, we're lied to on a daily basis.

02:15:24.000 We've been lied to since the Kennedy assassination.

02:15:26.000 And you made the point about a half an hour, 40 minutes ago, that this all began with the Kennedy assassination.

02:15:33.000 And you're right, it did.

02:15:36.000 When they got away with that, it opened the door for Bobby and Martin and all the rest.

02:15:42.000 And the fact that they were able to do it basically endorses their ability to pull it off anytime that they want to.

02:15:48.000 And 9-11 is just another incidence of it.

02:15:51.000 And that's what's happened with Bush, which will be passed on to Obama, McCain, doesn't matter. 0.88

02:15:56.000 They're just puppets. 0.76

02:15:57.000 I mean, they put out memos saying they could torture children in front of their parents.

02:16:01.000 And the military was given that.

02:16:03.000 The cops have heard about that.

02:16:05.000 Now they taser you if you don't give a blood sample or a urine sample at the hospital.

02:16:09.000 I mean, now, All this evil isn't even kept in the dungeons anymore.

02:16:14.000 It's paraded as if it's good.

02:16:16.000 Evil is now being advertised as good.

02:16:20.000 Well, you're right.

02:16:22.000 God help us.

02:16:23.000 Where do you, in your 45 years of studying this, where do you see it going?

02:16:27.000 Because, like I said five minutes ago, it appears that they are in a nihilistic death orgy and are just going to go over the edge.

02:16:37.000 It's going to be right out in the open.

02:16:39.000 Well, I don't see an end to it.

02:16:42.000 When I began my work on the Kennedy case, I used to believe it was possible to find the answers and that somebody somewhere really did want to know.

02:16:52.000 When I was able to release the films of the assassination on national television for the first time on a TV show called Goodnight America, it was a different world then.

02:17:01.000 We had different problems.

02:17:02.000 We had whatever.

02:17:04.000 I can't even go into the differences between then and now.

02:17:08.000 But we were able to find enough people in Congress that were honest enough to want to find the truth, and we got the House Assassinations Committee voted in.

02:17:18.000 That couldn't happen today.

02:17:21.000 That's what's so scary about it.

02:17:23.000 It would take something like that in order to find the truth with what's left of the truth now.

02:17:29.000 Well, Robert, I had congressmen on two weeks ago.

02:17:31.000 They were told, you pass the bailout or we're going to declare martial law.

02:17:35.000 And then the Army Times reported they're going to deploy army brigades to the U.S.

02:17:39.000 to, quote, deal with insurrection.

02:17:40.000 I mean, they have designed all of this, and then they create the crisis, and then they pose as the solution.

02:17:46.000 It's the cold-bloodedness.

02:17:49.000 I mean, they are cold-blooded, organized, and they know what they're going to do, and they're not going to stop.

02:17:56.000 Well, if they can steal two elections in front of the watchful eye of the American public, they can do anything.

02:18:06.000 Well, I hope all the government people watching your families go bankrupt and, you know, your neighbors go bankrupt.

02:18:11.000 I just hope you're proud of yourselves.

02:18:12.000 I really... You destroyed a really great country.

02:18:15.000 Thanks a lot.

02:18:17.000 So you can run off and have just unlimited amounts of money in your Swiss bank accounts and laugh at us and say we're schmutz because we're not tough like you and don't have the will to do what you do. 0.56

02:18:26.000 No, we're not cancer like you.

02:18:28.000 We just want to live and be decent people.

02:18:31.000 You know, I more and more just speak directly to those on the dark side.

02:18:34.000 I just... 0.98

02:18:36.000 They are going to kill the host, Robert. 1.00

02:18:37.000 They are going to kill the host.

02:18:42.000 Well, being part of the host, you and I have to be aware of it, but once again, outside of talking about it and trying to make other people aware of it, I'm not sure there's very much more that we can do.

02:18:57.000 They've gone over a line a long time ago where they control literally all the power, and they don't mind killing individuals.

02:19:05.000 Ruby Ridge, the works.

02:19:12.000 We didn't even mention the David Koresh thing.

02:19:17.000 How many people were murdered there?

02:19:19.000 Did anybody have to answer for that?

02:19:21.000 No.

02:19:23.000 That's the whole thing.

02:19:24.000 And that was a precedent-setting event.

02:19:28.000 The fact that they got away with it and were able, through whatever propaganda they were able to raise, to make it look as if they did the right thing, no one's going to speak out.

02:19:39.000 Not that they really could.

02:19:42.000 Well, the good news is people are waking up en masse, and there's a lot at the end of the tunnel, but it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better, folks.

02:19:47.000 I mean, the country has gangrene, basically.

02:19:50.000 And the gangrene's rotting the flesh, running all over the body, and it thinks it's having a great time.

02:19:58.000 It's like the scorpion, you know, on the toad.

02:19:58.000 It's gangrene.

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02:24:15.000 Robert, before time gets away from us, fire out some of the great films and books and materials you put out and some of the websites so folks can get those.

02:24:24.000 Well, the website, which is JFKMurder.com, right now there's nothing new available on it yet.

02:24:32.000 My DVD is available on it.

02:24:35.000 Actually, both DVDs are.

02:24:37.000 By the way, these are incredibly well done, and you say nothing new.

02:24:41.000 Most of what you know is new to the general public.

02:24:43.000 They need to go there and get them.

02:24:45.000 Well, I thank you for that.

02:24:46.000 That's true.

02:24:47.000 But when the new book comes out, that'll be all brand new material, and that's called JFK Absolute Proof.

02:24:56.000 When it's available, it'll be announced on the website.

02:24:59.000 It is not available yet.

02:25:01.000 But it's a free website.

02:25:03.000 Anyone can go there anytime they want to.

02:25:05.000 There's no charge for it.

02:25:06.000 It's JFKMurder.com.

02:25:09.000 And there's just a small handful of the older books available.

02:25:16.000 High Treason is still available.

02:25:19.000 JFK the Case for Conspiracy is not.

02:25:23.000 Let's see.

02:25:25.000 Well, if you go to the website, you'll see what is available now.

02:25:28.000 Sure, sure.

02:25:29.000 Let me shift gears back into a wider view and then briefly go over what, as best you can tell, actually happened that day.

02:25:37.000 What is the establishment going to do, though, when it comes out the Gulf of Tonkin was staged in 1964, the USS Liberty was staged, that's now even in the Chicago Tribune, the intercepts have been declassified.

02:25:48.000 What is the establishment going to do as it does come out?

02:25:51.000 They planned Operation Northwoods, a 9-11 style attack.

02:25:54.000 All these other terror attacks they've staged.

02:25:56.000 It comes out on Keith Oberman that Dick Cheney wanted to have Navy SEALs dressed up like Iranians in fake Iranian boats to attack our ships.

02:26:05.000 I mean, all this is coming out and so there's this crisis.

02:26:08.000 The public is finally waking up.

02:26:10.000 Uh, but the system is bringing in the Homeland Security operation, which the smokescreen was, it was for terrorism, and now, you know, but really the establishment knew folks were waking up, it was to suppress the population.

02:26:21.000 Now the public gets it, and we have a stalemate, uh, with, uh, thug enforcers who are on power trips, and a, a freaked out public who now, I think, is realizing we have hardcore murdering terrorists running things.

02:26:35.000 I don't know that there's anything that we really can do.

02:26:38.000 I mean, you've got to ask yourself, what would happen if tomorrow morning, somebody, some government official from whatever one of the alphabet soup of agencies got on Good Morning America or the Today Show and said, yeah, alright, you guys win.

02:26:55.000 We killed the president.

02:26:56.000 What y'all going to do about it?

02:26:59.000 What can we do?

02:27:00.000 That's the problem.

02:27:03.000 But when there's no rule of law, corruption just spreads until the society collapses, and so the enemy will defeat themselves through their own corruption.

02:27:11.000 Well, that's true.

02:27:12.000 I mean, sooner or later, as you said, you know, the parasites will destroy the hosts, and then there'll be nothing left, and they'll have to live off of each other.

02:27:21.000 But by that time, we'll all be gone, so... Well, I'm glad you reminded me, because I didn't have time to finish the analogy.

02:27:27.000 You know the old story of the frog or the toad, and the scorpion says, carry me across the river.

02:27:32.000 And he says, but you're a scorpion, you'll sting me.

02:27:34.000 And he goes, no, no, I promise, I won't, you just help me.

02:27:36.000 And so being a nice frog, a nice toad, it jumps in the water and swims across.

02:27:40.000 And right as they get to the other side, the scorpion stings him, and he's there dying in the water.

02:27:44.000 And he says, why did you do that to me?

02:27:45.000 I helped you.

02:27:45.000 And he said, I'm a scorpion.

02:27:48.000 And somehow they've trained the public just to love scorpions.

02:27:51.000 Oh, the citizen has a gun.

02:27:53.000 I'm scared.

02:27:54.000 But if a man in a black uniform and a black mask has it, I feel safe. 1.00

02:27:58.000 I mean, it's just idiocy. 1.00

02:28:01.000 Well, sad, sad, but true. 0.99

02:28:03.000 Okay, well, earlier I was really letting you run and now I'm jumping in because it's so thought-provoking.

02:28:09.000 Continue with whatever you think is most important.

02:28:10.000 It's such a wide range of knowledge.

02:28:12.000 Well, again, One of the problems that we've got now is that it's a situation of the Empire Strikes Back.

02:28:23.000 When we had the miniseries The Men Who Killed Kennedy, we were getting a lot of good information out, but people were able to see it.

02:28:30.000 But now some agencies have started to use programs called Unsolved History, and they've produced a series of grossly dishonest programs to try to convince people that Oswald acted alone.

02:28:44.000 And what's scary is the fact that nobody seems to see through this.

02:28:49.000 You know, they showed documentaries with Oswald running down four flights of stairs to the second floor in what he said was 90 seconds.

02:29:00.000 Well, Oswald didn't have 90 seconds.

02:29:03.000 Had he been up there, he only had 72 seconds, number one.

02:29:07.000 Plus the fact that there's a photograph taken of someone in the sixth floor window 30 seconds after the shooting, which reduces the time to get downstairs to 42 seconds.

02:29:18.000 Well, they know that.

02:29:19.000 But they still give them 90 seconds to get down.

02:29:22.000 They have them running down an enclosed stairway, totally unobstructed.

02:29:25.000 Well, let's talk about these hit pieces, these just simple pieces.

02:29:28.000 It's like the 9-11 ones, BBC's turned up, three of them.

02:29:31.000 The U.S.

02:29:32.000 has done it as well, here in the U.S.

02:29:34.000 And they'll just say, hey, North Tower fell into Building 7, knocked a third of it down.

02:29:40.000 Then we have present video, that none of it was knocked in. 0.97

02:29:42.000 They just say, we don't care, we say so, shut up.

02:29:45.000 We'll be right back with Robert Grud and stay with us. 0.96

02:29:51.000 We're on the march.

02:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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02:33:00.000 Everybody knows that the days are loaded.

02:33:13.000 Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed.

02:33:18.000 Everybody knows...

02:33:21.000 The war is over.

02:33:22.000 Everybody knows the good guy's lost.

02:33:27.000 Everybody knows the facts.

02:33:30.000 And the bad guys are into giving you cancer through injections.

02:33:34.000 Bad guys are real into being bad.

02:33:39.000 They like the dark side.

02:33:43.000 They like death.

02:33:44.000 They like power.

02:33:46.000 They like fear.

02:33:49.000 They like dropping napalm on little children running.

02:33:52.000 They laugh while they burn.

02:33:56.000 And you cynically, some of you that have sold out to the system, We're on the edges of it.

02:34:02.000 You think we're safe as the American people and we allow those types of evils to be committed?

02:34:08.000 You think when we send millions of men to these wars that the establishment doesn't cherry-pick the psychopaths, the opportunists, and doesn't put them into our society?

02:34:20.000 You think you're immune from all that evil?

02:34:23.000 That you've supported?

02:34:25.000 Yeah, so what if 3 million Iraqis are dead in the last 18 years?

02:34:29.000 A million and a half in the last 5 and a half? 1.00

02:34:33.000 Eh, they're just brown, let them die. 0.88

02:34:35.000 But what you don't understand is that's coming home to roost on all of us. 0.99

02:34:39.000 And God help us, I know who we're fighting, I know how evil they are, I know how real this is.

02:34:44.000 And so does Robert Grodin, your calls are coming up.

02:34:48.000 Robert, continue with these hit pieces, these incredibly dishonest TV pieces they put out, which always, right after they come out, are totally disproven, but it's designed for the mass of people that they're into deceiving.

02:34:59.000 And I've... I've had hit pieces done on me, and you meet these people, and they'll lie and say, oh, it's not a hit piece.

02:35:04.000 And several times after, when they're done getting their car to leave, they go, ha, you're a kook, we're going to expose you. 0.92

02:35:09.000 And they... or they say... or one time they gave me a... they said, go out to eat with us.

02:35:14.000 And at the end of it, they...

02:35:15.000 They gave me a fortune cookie.

02:35:16.000 They said, we brought you a special fortune cookie.

02:35:19.000 They said, break it open.

02:35:20.000 We just brought it just for you. 0.98

02:35:21.000 And it says, you're dead. 1.00

02:35:22.000 We're going to kill you. 1.00

02:35:23.000 And they all laughed at me and all just stared at me. 0.99

02:35:25.000 And they said, you know, don't you?

02:35:27.000 And I was just like, whatever. 1.00

02:35:28.000 You know, the point is, these are sick people, cowards, who decide to join the dark side. 1.00

02:35:33.000 They love it that the dark side keeps winning. 1.00

02:35:35.000 They love it that they can abuse innocence and twist and lie.

02:35:39.000 They enjoy that the public's dumbed down, that they can deceive them.

02:35:43.000 Robert Grodin, speak to that.

02:35:45.000 Well, the point of the matter is that people tend to believe it if they see it on television.

02:35:51.000 I had a relative who never believed what I said about the Kennedy assassination until he saw me say it on national television.

02:35:58.000 Then he believed it.

02:36:00.000 It's a sad thing.

02:36:02.000 We're basically indoctrinated to believe what we see on the evening news.

02:36:06.000 No matter what it is, no matter how unbelievable it is, we never question it because we have no other source of information.

02:36:13.000 That's the problem.

02:36:15.000 You are a source of alternative information, and you let people know that there is another side to this, and that's very, very important.

02:36:23.000 But people, for the most part, when they see something on the Discovery Channel or the History Channel, they'll just arbitrarily believe it, no matter what.

02:36:32.000 And they don't have the information to question or challenge.

02:36:35.000 That's what the problem has been.

02:36:38.000 These shows that were produced, there have been, I think, three of them so far on Unsolved History, and they just finished a fourth in Dealey Plaza, oh, about a month and a half ago.

02:36:49.000 They were doing something on the President's limousine.

02:36:52.000 And every time they did it, they did it wrong.

02:36:54.000 They had Mrs. Kennedy with her arms around the President, which never happened.

02:37:00.000 And I went up to the directors and producers, everyone who was there, and I showed them the actual photographs that they were doing it wrong.

02:37:08.000 I said, oh, we don't care.

02:37:09.000 And they didn't.

02:37:10.000 That's the whole point.

02:37:12.000 They had somebody there who knew the truth.

02:37:14.000 They didn't want to present the truth.

02:37:16.000 And that'll be out on TV in a couple of days.

02:37:19.000 And everyone will say, oh, look at that.

02:37:22.000 You know, these are the same people who took a copy of the so-called Oswald rifle, tied it down with gaffer's tape, after aligning the scope perfectly, having a professional trained shooter fire a gun at a stationary target, and even doing that, rigging everything, they still couldn't duplicate what Oswald is supposed to have done, yet they told us that they did.

02:37:47.000 All these years dealing with these people, I mean, a lot of them are just sell-outs of the system.

02:37:52.000 No doubt some are operatives.

02:37:53.000 I mean, do you ever have conversations with them where they just kind of just smile at you and say, you're going to lose?

02:37:59.000 You know, where they just let you know, yeah, I'm with the bad guys and I like it.

02:38:04.000 Well, yeah, that kind of happens.

02:38:06.000 It happens sometimes it's a bit more subtle than that.

02:38:10.000 I was offered the job of director at the Sixth Floor Museum some years back, but they made it very clear to me that I would have to sell out and not be able to talk about the conspiracy.

02:38:20.000 And I said, thanks, but no thanks.

02:38:22.000 I turned the job down.

02:38:25.000 Paid $180,000 a year.

02:38:27.000 Good money.

02:38:29.000 But I wouldn't sell out.

02:38:32.000 They were just blatant enough to tell me that, that that's what it would take.

02:38:37.000 And I refused to do it.

02:38:41.000 I have a friend who told me the analogy of, when somebody's talking about selling out, you say to them, well, what would you take to give me your eyes?

02:38:50.000 We'll go to a clinic, sell me your eyes, they'll remove them.

02:38:53.000 Will you take $100,000?

02:38:54.000 Will you take $1 million?

02:38:54.000 No.

02:38:55.000 No.

02:38:55.000 Will you take $10 million?

02:38:56.000 Why?

02:38:56.000 No.

02:38:57.000 Because my eyes, I see, it's my window to the world.

02:38:59.000 And you know, the eyes are the window to the soul.

02:39:01.000 Well then, what would you give for your soul then?

02:39:03.000 And people don't understand, when you sell out for a uniform, for status, for $35,000 a year, for a million a year, whatever it is, you lose who you are as a human.

02:39:12.000 And that's what's so sad about people that are purely materialistic.

02:39:17.000 Of course, they're all so unhappy.

02:39:19.000 I just can't believe it.

02:39:20.000 I can't imagine selling out, Robert, because what I say and what I do is who I am.

02:39:26.000 I can't cut my arms and legs off and sell them.

02:39:29.000 I can't gouge my eyes out and sell them.

02:39:31.000 I can't, you know, turn my... I mean, I don't understand how people are just so easy to be bought out.

02:39:38.000 Well, they found somebody.

02:39:42.000 They'll always find somebody, and that's the sad thing.

02:39:46.000 It's just that people just need to keep their eyes open.

02:39:50.000 I think that you and I have a mutual friend who has said through the years, always question authority.

02:40:00.000 It's Jim Morris.

02:40:01.000 Yeah.

02:40:03.000 And it's true. 0.56

02:40:05.000 If you question it, if you use your eyes, use your brain, think for yourself, it's more difficult to confuse you.

02:40:12.000 You know, look at the logic of things.

02:40:15.000 Try to learn all the sides and use your own mind.

02:40:17.000 If somebody out there wants to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, in spite of all the evidence, you know, how are you going to convince them otherwise?

02:40:25.000 You know, it's like religion to some degree.

02:40:28.000 If you believe, you don't need proof.

02:40:30.000 If you don't believe, no amount of proof is going to convince you.

02:40:34.000 It's the same sort of thing here, too.

02:40:35.000 The Kennedy assassination has become somewhat of a sporting event in the minds of a lot of people.

02:40:41.000 People will come to Dealey Plaza, they'll be, in many cases, drunk or really snotty about things, and they'll try to impress their friends, and they'll be know-it-alls, and say, well, this happened, and this happened, and this happened, and they'll be totally dead wrong.

02:40:56.000 And you try to convince them, say, hey, look, you know, the doctor said that this wasn't true, the witnesses said this wasn't true, the acoustic evidence shows this isn't true, and they just won't listen.

02:41:05.000 They'll just, you know, their mind's made up, they don't want to be confused with facts.

02:41:09.000 And those are the people that you have to feel so sorry for, because they're the ones who are going to lie to their selves, their children, their friends, and there's nothing you can really do about it.

02:41:21.000 They have bought into the lie, they've committed to it, and they can't admit they're wrong, but not just because they don't want to admit they're wrong, they're scared deep down, and they know that if it's true that the media lied and the government lied and the government killed Kennedy, they then know that a lot of other things are lies.

02:41:35.000 And so, they've bought into so many other lies.

02:41:40.000 Oh, true, true.

02:41:42.000 Alright, well, I want to take some calls, but just in a quick summation, as best you can tell, especially with all this new E. Howard Hunt information, I mean, hey, why do you think Hunt did that tape and now the videotape we just released last night, you know, basically admitting pretty accurate stuff according to you and the other experts that Sure enough, he was involved in setting it up to kill him in Chicago and Miami, but they decided on Dallas and that it was LBJ, or at least as his chain of command went up to.

02:42:13.000 Why do you think Hunt did that?

02:42:14.000 Well, you know, there is something in this history that's pretty much forgotten, and I'll bring it up, because it does relate extremely closely to your question.

02:42:22.000 Well, when they blew his wife up?

02:42:23.000 Well, yeah, when Dorothy Hunt was killed, and along with all the other people on the airplane.

02:42:29.000 Yeah, that was another unforgivable thing, but where do you stop?

02:42:33.000 It goes on forever.

02:42:34.000 No, the thing that I'm thinking about is the fact that Hunt, years ago, filed a lawsuit for pain and suffering because the issue was stated that he was part of the conspiracy and he thought that his kids might believe it and therefore it was hurtful to him and to them.

02:42:57.000 So he used that as the excuse to file a lawsuit.

02:42:59.000 And then he lost it.

02:43:00.000 Well, he lost the suit, but the issue that everybody seemed to forget and didn't pay attention to at the time is that he had testified before the Rockefeller Commission that he was not in Dallas, and he used his own kids as testimony that he was elsewhere at the time.

02:43:21.000 So if they were testifying that he was somewhere else, then he knew he wasn't there.

02:43:25.000 He said he made Chinese food for him, and of course the kid said he never made him dinner.

02:43:30.000 Right, but at the time, if in fact his excuse before the Rockefeller Commission was truthful, then they would know he wasn't there.

02:43:38.000 How could that be painful to them?

02:43:39.000 How could they possibly believe it if they knew otherwise?

02:43:42.000 And that's what I think he was trying to straighten out.

02:43:44.000 I think he was trying to basically make restitution for using them.

02:43:51.000 Yeah, well, St.

02:43:52.000 John says he's proud of it, too.

02:43:58.000 The son is proud of the father?

02:44:00.000 No, no, St.

02:44:00.000 John was saying his father was proud of being involved in that.

02:44:04.000 Ah, well, you know, how do you deal with it?

02:44:08.000 How do you deal with somebody like that?

02:44:11.000 You know, Hunt, Sturgis, the whole bunch of them, the whole Watergate crew.

02:44:17.000 The same people were used by Nixon and Watergate as were used by Johnson.

02:44:23.000 And his wife was going around with a bag full of the checks from Nixon and a bunch of cash. 0.99

02:44:29.000 She was going around as the bag lady just trying to get money for the guys. 1.00

02:44:34.000 So they could defend themselves.

02:44:35.000 They were all taking the rap and going to prison.

02:44:37.000 And Nixon and them didn't even want to give them the money.

02:44:39.000 They just said, you know what?

02:44:40.000 We'll just blow your wife up. 1.00

02:44:42.000 They even directed the plane into another airport so they could cover it up.

02:44:45.000 Roger Niner Niner, come on over here to this landing field.

02:44:48.000 They blow it up as it's coming in.

02:44:51.000 And then the FBI swoops in on the scene, covers it all up instantly.

02:44:55.000 And, you know, that's the message. 1.00

02:44:56.000 We'll kill your whole family. 1.00

02:44:57.000 That's what the evil people that work for the government need to understand. 1.00

02:45:00.000 You are totally expendable.

02:45:02.000 That's what I don't even get.

02:45:03.000 I study these people.

02:45:04.000 They don't even tend to take care of their killers.

02:45:06.000 They tend to kill them.

02:45:10.000 There's gotta be a lesson there somewhere.

02:45:14.000 I guess the lesson is don't kill for the government.

02:45:20.000 I mean, you know, there's Dorothy Hunt flying around getting the money for the plumbers. 1.00

02:45:24.000 I guess Nixon and them said, and reportedly, according to St.

02:45:29.000 John, they had just threatened them again with the checks.

02:45:32.000 And he'll give us more money.

02:45:33.000 You know, there was a movie that was released last year.

02:45:36.000 Fabulous, fabulous movie.

02:45:37.000 It's called Shooter, with Mark Wahlberg.

02:45:40.000 Excellent.

02:45:40.000 And Kate Mara.

02:45:42.000 There's a line in it, read by Levon Helm, who was the drummer from the band.

02:45:49.000 But he's an actor in it, and he says, those boys in the book depository, they were all dead before sundown.

02:45:57.000 They're buried out in the desert.

02:46:00.000 And somebody says, well, how do you know that's true?

02:46:02.000 He says, I still got the shovel.

02:46:05.000 They were buried out at El Pango by sunset.

02:46:09.000 Well, how do you know?

02:46:09.000 Still got the shovel.

02:46:11.000 That's it.

02:46:13.000 Just when you think you got it figured, Gunny, look again.

02:46:18.000 You know that movie very well, don't you?

02:46:21.000 I saw it in the theater, and then I saw it on the treadmill.

02:46:23.000 That's great.

02:46:25.000 Oh, God.

02:46:25.000 In fact, I went to play clips of it on the show.

02:46:27.000 I never got around to it.

02:46:29.000 That's the thing.

02:46:29.000 People don't understand.

02:46:30.000 They think evil's cool and sexy and neat and fun.

02:46:33.000 The truth is, it stinks to high heaven.

02:46:35.000 And as soon as you get into it, folks, it just implodes on you and there's no end to it.

02:46:39.000 Oh, man.

02:46:42.000 Well, evil is simply evil.

02:46:44.000 Give out your website one more time.

02:46:46.000 The website is JFKMurder.com.

02:46:49.000 JFKMurder.com.

02:46:50.000 It's a free website, there's no charge to go there.

02:46:53.000 But the DVDs, folks, you want the straight skinny, get them there.

02:46:55.000 Let's take a few calls.

02:46:56.000 Lindsay in Idaho, you're on the air with Robert Grodin.

02:47:00.000 Hello?

02:47:00.000 Hello.

02:47:01.000 Hello, Alex, how are you today?

02:47:03.000 Good.

02:47:04.000 I have one specific question for Mr. Grodin.

02:47:08.000 Watched the and read a lot about the Kennedy assassination.

02:47:12.000 Not much is ever mentioned about the three tramps.

02:47:15.000 Mr. Grodin, what can you tell me that you know about them?

02:47:18.000 Well, there were three tramps that were on a freight train that was parked at the western end of the parking lot on top of the grassy knoll.

02:47:31.000 And right after the assassination, that train started to take off.

02:47:37.000 Lee Bowers, a fellow working in the railroad tower, a dispatcher in the railroad tower, saw it pulling out, realized he had not given permission for it to leave.

02:47:45.000 He stopped the train, called the police, had it searched.

02:47:49.000 And a quarter mile south of Dealey Plaza, where it was stopped, these three guys were arrested.

02:47:54.000 They were taken off and marched over the triple overpass, then through the parking lot, back in front of the Texas School Book Depository, and diagonally across into the police station.

02:48:06.000 Now, these three guys remained a mystery until the Shaw trial, and in 1967, I think it was 1967, Jim Garrison appeared on the Tonight Show and showed them publicly for the first time.

02:48:21.000 And of course, Johnny Carson didn't want them shown.

02:48:23.000 He kept dragging them out of his hands and what have you.

02:48:26.000 But that was the first time the public became aware of the tramps.

02:48:29.000 And of course, it just so happened they were spitting images for Frank Sturgis and E. Howard Hunt.

02:48:33.000 Precisely.

02:48:34.000 Yeah.

02:48:36.000 Now, those three guys have been positively identified four separate times as four different sets of people.

02:48:42.000 Once again, just Just confusing the heck out of the public.

02:48:47.000 And the problem is that, I guess about 10, 12, 13 years ago, the arrest records finally appeared.

02:48:55.000 Up until that point, there were no records of the arrest at all.

02:48:58.000 That's my question!

02:48:59.000 Who are they?

02:49:00.000 Well, we have the paperwork for the arrest of three guys, a guy named Gedney and two others, who were apparently legitimate tramps.

02:49:09.000 But, this is where it's interesting.

02:49:11.000 The actual arrest photographs, the mugshots, the fingerprints, all of those are gone.

02:49:17.000 They've all disappeared.

02:49:18.000 My, what a surprise.

02:49:19.000 Yeah, well, the thing is, we don't really know who these people are.

02:49:24.000 One of them appears to be Frank Sturgis, but he also appears to be...

02:49:29.000 Charles Harrelson, a man who had formally admitted to shooting President Kennedy.

02:49:33.000 He just died in prison, Woody Harrelson's dad, and he was in prison for shooting a federal judge in Texas at 400 yards in the neck with a .243.

02:49:42.000 So he was an old hand assassin.

02:49:44.000 But I mean, I've looked at those photos, and I've got a really good eye, and I've blown them up on a computer.

02:49:50.000 And of course, St.

02:49:52.000 John's says it's his father.

02:49:54.000 And he would know him.

02:49:55.000 You can also see him trying to pump the space.

02:49:56.000 It is an uncanny resemblance.

02:49:58.000 Well, I mean, look, it looks like Frank Sturges to me, and it looks like E. Howard Hunt.

02:50:02.000 Yes.

02:50:04.000 Well, I agree it does look like him, but we don't know for sure.

02:50:08.000 Did you know St.

02:50:09.000 John said his dad did go in and came back a few weeks later with his ears smaller?

02:50:14.000 He had parts of his ears cut off, according to him?

02:50:17.000 That's very interesting.

02:50:18.000 So then, in other words, nobody still really knows much about these three tramps?

02:50:24.000 Well, we know they were arrested.

02:50:26.000 We know they were held until just after Lee Oswald was murdered, and then they were released.

02:50:30.000 Were they fingerprinted?

02:50:32.000 I'm sorry?

02:50:33.000 Were they fingerprinted?

02:50:35.000 They must have been.

02:50:35.000 If they were arrested, they were fingerprinted.

02:50:38.000 Those fingerprints have never surfaced.

02:50:39.000 That's why I question the official version.

02:50:41.000 Yeah, they gotta dummy those up before they do that.

02:50:44.000 Yeah.

02:50:45.000 Anything else, Caller?

02:50:46.000 No, that'll do it.

02:50:47.000 Thank you.

02:50:48.000 You bet.

02:50:48.000 We'll be right back.

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02:54:11.000 The End

02:54:41.000 Oh, there's the theme music.

02:54:48.000 But they had on Mission Impossible with Ethan Hunt, named after E. Howard Hunt.

02:54:58.000 Hunt's admitted with the creators of the show.

02:55:00.000 All about throwing it in our face.

02:55:02.000 And a caller earlier mentioned that back during the X-Files, you know, they have an episode about who killed Kennedy, and they go, okay, Mr. Hunt, you can go ahead and go into the smoking man's office.

02:55:09.000 They love flaunting it in our face.

02:55:11.000 Let's continue.

02:55:13.000 Uh, with the phone calls.

02:55:16.000 Let's talk to Mark in Georgia.

02:55:18.000 Go ahead, Mark.

02:55:18.000 You're on the air with Robert Grodin.

02:55:20.000 God blessing you.

02:55:21.000 As you know, you're ever in our prayers.

02:55:23.000 I want to say one thing very briefly.

02:55:26.000 You remember in the movie, The Outlaw, Josie Wales, where after the gunfight, they discussed why did you pick this target first, that target, and then the Indian companion to Josie asked, well, what about this other guy over here?

02:55:37.000 And so I wasn't even worried about him.

02:55:39.000 I'm like, why not?

02:55:41.000 Because I knew you were with me.

02:55:42.000 I know that you're too busy dealing with these guys who nitpick you on MySpace.

02:55:48.000 I want you to know that when he says, I was there with you and I wasn't worried about him, when somebody attacks you about some ridiculous nuance, I'm there to cover your six.

02:55:58.000 Well, I appreciate that.

02:56:02.000 I mentioned a while back, and I want to be specific this time, it was Dr. Paul Martin Who gave a presentation about the manipulation tactics that cults use to... Basically, cults, generally speaking, have to have the witting compliance of their adherents.

02:56:20.000 People are led to believe that the group knows what's best for you, and although we're doing things that are painful to you, we're doing it for your own good.

02:56:28.000 And one of those things that they do is called a manipulation tactic.

02:56:32.000 It's called a loaded term.

02:56:33.000 It's a term with a strong emotional charge.

02:56:35.000 Like, with the former International Church of Christ, which, thank God, came to its senses, if you told one of their adherents, you're divisive, it would lead them to believe that there was something wrong with them for questioning the practices and the beliefs of the system, rather than that there's something wrong with the system.

02:56:52.000 And in the same way, the term conspiracy theorist, I think we're on the same page.

02:56:56.000 Yeah, no, no, I mean, it's a huge loaded term. 0.94

02:56:58.000 It means automatically this person's a kook, they're insane. 1.00

02:57:01.000 Exactly. 1.00

02:57:02.000 You know, it's saying these are nuts.

02:57:03.000 You want to comment on that to Robert Grodin?

02:57:06.000 Well, you know, there's a... The power of the word is extremely strong and Different ways of words can be used.

02:57:18.000 For instance, in Dealey Plaza, people say, well, was the president shot in the front?

02:57:24.000 Well, he wasn't shot in the front.

02:57:26.000 He was shot from the front.

02:57:28.000 It hit him in the right side of his head, but it was from the front.

02:57:32.000 The way words are used are not always just lackadaisical.

02:57:37.000 There's a reason for it.

02:57:39.000 I mean, that's just 101 for anybody.

02:57:42.000 People get horrified by hunting, but you still eat meat at the store.

02:57:45.000 I mean, I've shot deer and wild hogs in the head, and you shoot them with a .308, and it goes in small, sometimes you can't even find the hole, and it blows the whole other side of the head off.

02:57:55.000 You shoot them in one side of the head, from the side, the other side of the head blows off. 0.65

02:57:58.000 You shoot them in the front of the head, the whole back of the head blows off. 0.99

02:58:02.000 It's the same thing with humans. 0.99

02:58:03.000 I mean, for anybody that's ever shot something, Well, you know, that's the way they get away with it, though.

02:58:13.000 You know, you had Dan Rather get on CBS TV Sunday, two days after the assassination, and tell us that when the President was struck in the head after seeing the Zapruder film, he was thrown violently forward.

02:58:30.000 Well, that's certainly not true.

02:58:31.000 No matter where the shot came from, he was shot and thrown to the rear.

02:58:35.000 All right, stay there.

02:58:36.000 Stay there.

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02:59:59.000 Well, we've got the longest continual, most dogged researcher we've got the longest continual, most dogged researcher at JFK, the main consultant most dogged researcher at JFK, the main consultant on the film JFK, worked with Jim Oh, my God.

03:00:27.000 With us for another 20 minutes, and I want to get to Greg and Ray and Nelson and others that are patiently holding.

03:00:34.000 But I want to get a few questions out of the way that I haven't got to yet.

03:00:37.000 First off, you got caught off by the brakes.

03:00:38.000 Sorry, it was satellites and syndication.

03:00:41.000 We can't push brakes back, so I apologize, Mr. Grodin.

03:00:43.000 Robert Grodin, you're trying to make a point.

03:00:44.000 We're talking about Dan Rather.

03:00:46.000 Shane Kennedy was thrown forward from being shot in the back.

03:00:49.000 the head and just total ball of a sub-rider film when it finally came out you know he's he's he's lunging backwards i mean you know he's being smacked and then it being being pushed back and the whole back of his head blowing out so go ahead well see that's that's the whole point you know back in those days we believed everything they told us uh...

03:01:10.000 Nobody would dare ever question Dan Rather or Walter Cronkite or anybody like that.

03:01:17.000 And that's the problem.

03:01:18.000 It wasn't true, but they knew we'd never get to see the Zapruder film.

03:01:22.000 They knew in their heart of hearts that they wouldn't get caught.

03:01:24.000 Well, you know, he built his career on that.

03:01:26.000 He became a national figure because of that.

03:01:28.000 Before that, he was just local here in Dallas.

03:01:29.000 They've already lied over and over again.

03:01:31.000 They've already shown that they'll do whatever they're told.

03:01:33.000 But I wonder what Rather was thinking, going out there and lying and knowing they'd killed Kennedy.

03:01:37.000 Well, he built his career on that.

03:01:40.000 He became a national figure because of that.

03:01:45.000 Before that, he was just local here in Dallas.

03:01:47.000 It was nothing.

03:01:48.000 But he became their trusted guy.

03:01:51.000 Yeah, the establishment said, oh, he's a football play ball.

03:01:55.000 Yeah, and he did.

03:01:56.000 And when I released the Zapruder film back in 1975, he very soon thereafter made the statement in his book, The Camera Never Blinks, that he had simply made an honest mistake.

03:02:12.000 Well, he made a mistake, but there was nothing honest about it.

03:02:16.000 That's in answer to your last caller's question.

03:02:22.000 Semantics is extremely important.

03:02:28.000 You can't say he was thrown to the left or to the right or the front or the rear.

03:02:32.000 It's that kind of a mistake.

03:02:34.000 He was thrown to the rear.

03:02:35.000 Period.

03:02:36.000 There's no question about that.

03:02:38.000 Well, it's explosive.

03:02:39.000 It just slams him back.

03:02:42.000 Exactly.

03:02:43.000 But by that time, I'm sure that Rather was told that the public would never have a chance to see the Zephyrter film.

03:02:50.000 But what about all the witnesses?

03:02:52.000 Exactly.

03:02:52.000 He knew they'd never see it, so he went ahead and said it.

03:02:54.000 They didn't know that you had secured it out.

03:02:56.000 How did you sneak that out?

03:02:58.000 Well, it wasn't so much a matter of being able to sneak it out, per se, although I guess it kind of was.

03:03:04.000 Here's the situation.

03:03:06.000 I had gotten my hands on the film in 1969, and I only told specific researchers in the Kennedy case, a small number of researchers, about what I had and showed them what I had.

03:03:20.000 It was just a small group of people.

03:03:24.000 In 1970... You don't want to talk about how you got your hands on it?

03:03:30.000 Well, I worked for a company in New York.

03:03:32.000 We did work for Life Magazine.

03:03:33.000 We blew it up from 8mm to 35mm for Life Magazine.

03:03:39.000 They wanted to see what kind of resolution they could get out of it.

03:03:43.000 This is something that had never, ever been done before.

03:03:46.000 No one had ever blown up 8mm to 35mm like this.

03:03:52.000 So I made an extra copy.

03:03:54.000 Yeah, thank God.

03:03:57.000 I say that too because I thought that sooner or later they would release it, but they never did.

03:04:03.000 It probably would have been doctored, though.

03:04:05.000 Well, the thing is that to this very day I'm convinced that the film never would have been released if I hadn't been the one to release it.

03:04:14.000 You know, it was a gamble.

03:04:15.000 How'd you get the photos with his head blown off?

03:04:18.000 Well, I worked for the government for three years, and I worked as a photo analyst, and part of the things I worked on were those photographs.

03:04:28.000 And that's about as much as I'm kind of willing to say.

03:04:32.000 Man, just amazing that you've been able to ferret all this out.

03:04:37.000 I mean, folks, the whole back of his head blows up.

03:04:41.000 And I'll assure you, Go out to East Texas. 0.99

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03:04:51.000 The other side, if it's a high-powered rifle, looks just like Kennedy's head. 1.00

03:04:55.000 Okay?

03:04:57.000 Real simple.

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03:06:04.000 A terrorist act of war against this country.

03:06:08.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

03:06:11.000 But who is the enemy?

03:06:12.000 Bin Laden.

03:06:13.000 This is his ammo.

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03:06:31.000 I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.

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03:08:09.000 I want to go to Greg, Ray, Nelson, Ronnie and others for Robert Grodin.

03:08:16.000 But I wanted to bring Aaron Dykes in.

03:08:17.000 He's been working with me for now two years off and on.

03:08:21.000 Two years since we've been working on a JFK film quietly in the background while we were making other films.

03:08:27.000 And he had a few quick questions for you here on air.

03:08:33.000 Mr. Grodin, go ahead and ask your questions, Aaron Dykes.

03:08:37.000 Yeah, my question was basically in terms of the top suspects that Howard Hunt names, William Harvey and other CIA figures.

03:08:45.000 How well does that fit in with the fact that they were doing coups in all these third world countries, that their jobs were to overthrow leaders?

03:08:52.000 Yeah, that's who the government will go to.

03:08:54.000 The program was even called Executive Action, I believe.

03:08:57.000 Or at least that was one of the programs, the ZR rifle program.

03:09:01.000 What can you say about that in terms of how it fits into the assassination?

03:09:06.000 Absolutely.

03:09:06.000 These were the people with the mode of opportunity and means to do it.

03:09:09.000 They had the practice, they had the experience, and they had the money.

03:09:13.000 There's no question in my mind that these were among the guilty parties.

03:09:19.000 They may not have been alone.

03:09:20.000 They may have had support in other areas from Perhaps specific politicians or mobsters or what have you, but yeah, it would have been impossible.

03:09:31.000 For instance, let me say, the government stated in 1979 that it was the mob that was responsible for the assassination.

03:09:41.000 Well, they might very well have been to some degree, but can you imagine some mobsters in Chicago or Miami or New Orleans having the power to control the investigations through the years to get Oswald killed?

03:09:57.000 And the media and the FBI, look, and the public has been ignorant on this.

03:10:03.000 Now they kind of understand it.

03:10:04.000 The CIA, when it was OSS and every other intelligence agency, British intelligence going back 300 years, they always use local crime rings in any area.

03:10:13.000 They're smuggling or getting out data or information.

03:10:16.000 They always use the local criminal networks because they know the way of the land.

03:10:20.000 And it gives plausible deniability.

03:10:22.000 Well, with all that and everything that you just said is absolutely true, but the other thing, though, is by bringing them in, they prevent themselves from being victims of blackmail later on.

03:10:34.000 Because by being able to link the mob organizations with them, then they would be... basically, it's an insurance policy.

03:10:44.000 It's a corruption!

03:10:45.000 I mean, that's what corruption's all about.

03:10:47.000 It's not just getting money and stealing it.

03:10:49.000 It's about corrupting.

03:10:51.000 It's about getting others in on the corruption.

03:10:54.000 Yeah.

03:10:55.000 So I agree, yes, absolutely.

03:10:57.000 I have absolutely no problem believing that the people that you mentioned were involved in this.

03:11:01.000 Well, it's just amazing.

03:11:04.000 Aaron, you had some other questions?

03:11:07.000 No, just on that general idea.

03:11:09.000 It's just, they were even in their specific roles.

03:11:12.000 Hunt says William Harvey was overseeing it as kind of the supervisor.

03:11:17.000 He was the supervisor of the Executive Action Program and Hunt was kind of the sub-manager of that, more on the ground.

03:11:25.000 It's just the players, he says, were involved were specifically in the same roles they did in other countries.

03:11:30.000 I'm going to play that world-exclusive video coming up at the bottom of the hour right when our guest leaves us.

03:11:35.000 He's pretty amenable.

03:11:35.000 I'll probably twist his arm to the bottom of the hour, another 18 minutes or so.

03:11:39.000 Stay here, Eric, because I know you may have more questions.

03:11:42.000 I've got a few questions here before we take these final calls for Robert Gruden, probably the premier credible researcher on JFK.

03:11:50.000 Robert George H.W.

03:11:52.000 Bush.

03:11:52.000 We know he's been involved with the CIA.

03:11:54.000 We know he was involved with some Bay of Pigs operations and using some oil platforms as fronts.

03:11:59.000 You know, Skull and Bones is what CIA was founded out of.

03:12:03.000 And he just wasn't made director in the 70s, you know, out of falling off a turnip truck.

03:12:08.000 And then there's that famous photo, which is a spitting image of him in the same mannerisms.

03:12:14.000 But do you think there's any credibility to that?

03:12:17.000 You mean that he was actually in Dealey Plaza?

03:12:19.000 Yes, or involved in any way.

03:12:21.000 Well, we know that he was in Texas that day, most probably, almost to a certainty, in Dallas.

03:12:29.000 But we also know that he was flown to Washington, D.C.

03:12:32.000 the next day, which got him out of here.

03:12:38.000 I am not in any way, shape, manner, or form a fan of either one of the Bushes.

03:12:47.000 We know that Bush, when he was being picked as the director of the CIA, he lied to Congress and said he had never worked for the CIA, when in fact we know he had prior to his being named director.

03:13:02.000 Now we have FBI files and letters and list that evidence.

03:13:07.000 Well, again, we have documents relating to the Kennedy assassination which mention George H.W.

03:13:12.000 Bush of the CIA.

03:13:14.000 And they say that's another George H.W.

03:13:16.000 Bush in Texas.

03:13:19.000 Which is absurd.

03:13:24.000 Oh my God, there's no end to it.

03:13:26.000 There's no end to these people.

03:13:31.000 I mean, one question that's always crossed my mind in relation to what you had just mentioned is, if Bush was willing to lie to Congress to commit perjury over working for the CIA, you have to ask yourself, why?

03:13:47.000 You know, what was so important that he'd keep secret about it?

03:13:50.000 Yeah, why not say, hey, because that was the criticism, is that he never had any intelligence background.

03:13:55.000 No, it's suddenly just going to be the director out of nowhere, and they were saying, well, exactly, why wouldn't he say, oh yeah, I work for the agency?

03:14:04.000 Well, that's the whole point.

03:14:05.000 You have to ask yourself, why would he take the risk of lying about it?

03:14:09.000 And that's a question that still, to this day, hasn't been answered.

03:14:12.000 He still hasn't fessed up.

03:14:16.000 Well, that gives him a lot of cachet, I think, clearly involved.

03:14:19.000 I think that photo, and there's no doubt in my mind, it's him.

03:14:22.000 It could well be.

03:14:23.000 That certainly gave him a lot of cred with the boys making his bones just being involved.

03:14:31.000 Oh boy, they're at the School Bus Depository building.

03:14:35.000 Okay, let's take some calls here.

03:14:37.000 Greg in New York, you're on the air with Robert Grodin.

03:14:41.000 Hey Al, hey Robert, how are you?

03:14:43.000 I'm fine, how about yourself?

03:14:44.000 Great, thank you.

03:14:45.000 It's an honor and a privilege to call myself an American, to know people like yourself.

03:14:51.000 I'm a first-time caller and I'm also an expert and I've been a stockbroker in New York for over 14 years and I've studied the Federal Reserve for a very long time and I have heard some things about why Jeff Gate got shot because he was going to basically sign form 1110 which was to abolish the Federal Reserve.

03:15:10.000 Well, he made a lot of people mad.

03:15:11.000 I mean, that's why they whacked him.

03:15:13.000 Well, my biggest thing, and I see and I've been warning people for many years, not to let them force a global economy, because basically what they're looking to do is basically put everybody on the breadline.

03:15:27.000 No, that's it.

03:15:28.000 They can have worldwide inflation and control things and consolidate.

03:15:31.000 We have our own documents.

03:15:33.000 Not only that, but what people don't understand, and people are afraid.

03:15:37.000 They're all sheep. 0.70

03:15:38.000 I mean, they call us sheep, and the reason they call us sheep is because most people don't think like you and Robert.

03:15:43.000 Most people don't think as individuals.

03:15:45.000 They think in groups.

03:15:46.000 Well, they think that what they think is reality, and so they decide to say everything's fine and rationalize it.

03:15:53.000 They're actually pretty smart. 0.93

03:15:55.000 It's just they're cowards, and a coward Well, as the great William Cooper said, God rest his soul, was listen to everyone, read everything, believe no one, and do your own research. 0.98

03:16:11.000 And that's exactly what you guys are doing. 0.96

03:16:14.000 And the point of the matter is These people control, the Federal Reserve controls the food prices, they control what you pay at the pump for gas, they control your mortgage, they control the tax on your property.

03:16:26.000 These people control every aspect of the dollar.

03:16:30.000 And when people start to realize that and research that for themselves, everything else that you talk about on your show is so easy to see.

03:16:37.000 Now Harriet, do you have a question for Robert Grudin?

03:16:40.000 Yes.

03:16:41.000 Basically, my question is, do you feel that because JFK tried to abolish the Federal Reserve, that is one of the biggest reasons that he was murdered?

03:16:51.000 I think that that's one of the reasons why he may have been, yes.

03:16:55.000 I think that what I've done through the years is I've had to weigh the different potential motives.

03:17:02.000 And to me, the Vietnam War seems to be the greatest motive, but it doesn't eliminate that as being a very strong motive.

03:17:08.000 Yeah, there's a whole bunch of troughs they wanted to suck out of and a bunch of other things they wanted to shut down that Kennedy was doing.

03:17:14.000 So my feeling is, yes, it may very well have had a lot to do with it.

03:17:17.000 that I would never eliminate that as a potential.

03:17:21.000 But when people ask me why was the president killed, I said that there's a lot of reasons why.

03:17:27.000 But as far as I can see, and from all my years of doing this, the greatest motivation with the most lodged behind it is the Vietnam War.

03:17:38.000 But it's not the only reason.

03:17:39.000 All right, Greg, thanks for the call.

03:17:40.000 Ray, Nelson, and Ronnie, we're going to get to you when we come back, but in the last segment with our guests.

03:17:44.000 But Robert Grodin, I don't want to spend too long on this.

03:17:48.000 I mean, I am just a huge fan of JFK.

03:17:51.000 I think it's a great film.

03:17:52.000 You consulted on it.

03:17:53.000 I know you know Oliver Stone well.

03:17:56.000 He puts out this The Towers movie, which reinforces the official story. 0.98

03:18:02.000 Now he puts out W that makes W like an idiot savant who people were mean to. 0.95

03:18:06.000 And, you know, he really thought there were WMDs and the CIA made a mistake. 0.99

03:18:10.000 I mean, it's all a huge whitewash from what we know. 0.96

03:18:13.000 And very slick propaganda because it's done, you know, in a way to make fun of Bush, but it really rehabilitates him.

03:18:19.000 What has happened to Oliver Stone?

03:18:20.000 I've been told by Hollywood Insiders that it's all the drug convictions that they're basically threatening him.

03:18:26.000 I mean, do you have any comment on that?

03:18:28.000 Honestly, I really kind of don't.

03:18:31.000 Ollie did a great job with JFK.

03:18:34.000 I was very, very proud to be a part of it.

03:18:36.000 I would not have traded the opportunity.

03:18:40.000 I wish like heck that he would do JFK 2 and tell the rest of the story because the first movie is only the, not even the first half.

03:18:48.000 We've learned so much more since the time period covered by that first movie.

03:18:54.000 I love the first movie.

03:18:55.000 I think it's one of the best things ever done.

03:18:56.000 I agree.

03:18:58.000 And was so proud to be part of it.

03:19:00.000 But without JFK 2 to tell the rest of the story, the public will never know what the rest of the story truly is.

03:19:07.000 And they know how the case got to where it is now, how the actual evidence had been released.

03:19:13.000 When you look at the overall picture, Jim Garrison was a hero.

03:19:16.000 He did an awful lot.

03:19:17.000 He put his whole life on the line to do this.

03:19:20.000 But they controlled him.

03:19:21.000 They controlled the investigation and he lost.

03:19:25.000 The second one, which led to the House of Fascinations Committee, which admitted the conspiracy, that was much more of a success overall.

03:19:36.000 And that part of the story has not been told.

03:19:38.000 I want to talk about, briefly, Jim Garrison, the man, when we get back with our guest.

03:19:42.000 It's just an incredible interview.

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03:24:25.000 There's also a press release out.

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03:24:51.000 I forgot to give you that.

03:24:52.000 Doody, you're in the press release.

03:24:54.000 I need you to watch that this weekend.

03:24:55.000 I know you're also going out to Willie's Place with me and Ventura Sunday morning, you and Rob, but I also need you to watch that for media because I don't want to just have a press conference and then have some nerdy wells show up.

03:25:07.000 And yes, ne'er-do-wells, we're aware of you, wherever the ne'er-do-wells are. 0.92

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03:25:11.000 Dealing with 9-11 truth, the war, all of it, also Farm Aid.

03:25:17.000 Robert Grodin, I'm going to come back in the next segment and jam in three or four calls for you, but right now on this short one, where our breaks worked, most of them are in the first half hour.

03:25:27.000 More about the interesting perspective of being one of the chief advisors and people on the film JFK, in Dallas, filming part of it in Dallas, shooting it there at Dealey Plaza, You talk about all this harassment you go through now and over the years, you know, 80-something tickets, hundreds, 400-something harassments.

03:25:44.000 Were you guys harassed there?

03:25:45.000 Were there any dirty tricks there?

03:25:46.000 Was Stone ever threatened?

03:25:49.000 No, he wasn't, but the thing is he has a much higher public profile than I do.

03:25:56.000 The thing is that he wasn't really on his own.

03:26:01.000 He had a whole Backing, you know, all of the film production company.

03:26:06.000 Yeah, Entourage.

03:26:07.000 Well, the thing is that, you know, they were basically buying, you know, Warner Brothers was buying the time there.

03:26:16.000 We had private security.

03:26:19.000 We had public security.

03:26:22.000 We had paid an incredible amount of money to be able to film in Dealey Plaza and the There was actually a formal vote taken within the City Council whether to allow or not allow Ollie to shoot there.

03:26:40.000 And it cost a lot of money and I guess greased the city's coffers, as it were, to get permission to do it.

03:26:48.000 But Warner Brothers, Hollywood's pretty establishment.

03:26:50.000 I mean, the backstory, the inside baseball scoop on that.

03:26:55.000 I mean, how did Stone get that film made?

03:26:58.000 I mean, it's powerful.

03:27:00.000 Well, the thing is, no one had done anything on it, ever.

03:27:03.000 And he had the power to do it, and he had massive name stars.

03:27:07.000 If you look at the cast of that movie, it's astonishing.

03:27:11.000 Kevin Costner, Sissy Spacek, Tommy Lee Jones, Jack Lemmon, Walter Matthau, and on and on and on.

03:27:21.000 Gary Oldman, Tommy Lee Jones, as I said.

03:27:25.000 Well, the more I study JFK, I mean, I've always known a lot about him, but nothing like you, the more I realize, you know, the big who, who, how, how or whatever, I mean, it's all really from reality.

03:27:34.000 I mean, it's all from things that were seen or videotaped or filmed.

03:27:38.000 I mean, that thing is super accurate.

03:27:40.000 Well, you're absolutely right.

03:27:41.000 People just don't tend to understand that.

03:27:43.000 I hear a lot of complaints saying that it was all Hollywood and Oliver made up a lot of stuff.

03:27:50.000 That's not true at all.

03:27:51.000 There's a book out there called JFK, the book of the movie, and it's the entire script, and it's completely annotated.

03:27:58.000 Everything that is mentioned in the movie is shown in the book.

03:28:03.000 You know, where it came from, who said what, what the actual testimony was.

03:28:08.000 Yeah, there was a little bit of fudging the facts a little bit where it came to witnesses, for instance.

03:28:15.000 If there were six or seven witnesses that all said one or two things... You would condense it down into one person?

03:28:20.000 There you go.

03:28:21.000 I mean, that's what Hollywood has.

03:28:22.000 It's like the Patriot isn't just the Swamp Fox.

03:28:25.000 He's two other people from South Carolina with the Swamp Fox. 0.96

03:28:29.000 So it's basically all true, or 98% of it.

03:28:32.000 It's just condensed into one character.

03:28:36.000 You know, for the cinematic and literary reasons.

03:28:38.000 Um... Yeah, just amazing, just amazing that he was able to make that film.

03:28:43.000 You know, knowing, uh, being quote, an expert on George Bush, and I, you know, I am, I really studied it a lot.

03:28:47.000 Seeing W, it's all completely accurate, stunningly accurate. 0.81

03:28:52.000 The way they talk, the mannerisms, what they say, but it's lying by omission.

03:28:55.000 Different from JFK.

03:28:57.000 Because, because... Because it's what they leave out in W. It's, it's, it's a travesty.

03:29:03.000 Have you seen W?

03:29:04.000 No, I haven't seen it yet.

03:29:06.000 Oh, it's a travesty.

03:29:07.000 Well, I'm looking forward to seeing it.

03:29:10.000 I know it couldn't possibly ever be as good as JFK was.

03:29:15.000 But, you know, as I said, I admired President Kennedy.

03:29:20.000 I was a big fan.

03:29:22.000 He was the first politician in my life who I ever admired.

03:29:26.000 And I can't stand George Bush.

03:29:28.000 I truly cannot stand him.

03:29:31.000 I think he's destroyed this country.

03:29:35.000 You know, what can you say?

03:29:36.000 I mean, the record speaks for itself.

03:29:40.000 It does.

03:29:40.000 Final segment.

03:29:41.000 Your phone calls.

03:29:43.000 Straight ahead with Robert Groten, the premier JFK on-the-ground researcher.

03:29:48.000 The man that brought you this murder film.

03:29:52.000 We're on the march.

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03:33:01.000 Before you slip into All right, I've got to let my guest go in like seven minutes.

03:33:12.000 We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there.

03:33:14.000 Aaron, you had one more question for, or comment for Mr. Grove.

03:33:19.000 Well, I was just mentioning behind the scenes, didn't the JFK film itself have a role in, was it the Assassinations Review Board, or had to do with declassifying a lot of relevant documents, just as a lot of researchers, especially you, led to a lot of stuff getting into the public that would have never been seen if, you know, Yes, you're absolutely correct.

03:33:42.000 At the end of the movie, JFK, it's mentioned that the records that were being held private until the year 2039.

03:33:51.000 And as a result of that, there was a lot of requests of Congress to do something about it.

03:34:00.000 And, uh, the Assassination Records Review Board was named, uh, to review and release what could be released, uh, all documents relating to the JFK assassination.

03:34:11.000 It's called the JFK Records Act.

03:34:14.000 And they actually existed for, I think, three years.

03:34:20.000 They interviewed me on five separate days.

03:34:22.000 I was actually spent, I guess, 70 some odd hours being questioned about the autopsy photographs and the photographic evidence of the Kennedy case, the films and what have you.

03:34:38.000 Because outside of the Zapruder film, it was I who released all of the other films as well, 122 different films of the assassination and the autopsy pictures, and within My last two books, which was The Killing of a President and The Search for Lee Harvey Oswald, I released 1,200 photographs.

03:34:59.000 And the new book will have 800, which will bring the total up to about 2,000.

03:35:04.000 No, there's no doubt that we can say that you are the grand poobah, the mac daddy, the big kahuna when it comes to getting the info out.

03:35:17.000 Let's jam in some quick phone calls.

03:35:20.000 Ray in Texas, go ahead.

03:35:22.000 Mr. Brodin, how are you doing?

03:35:25.000 I'm fine, and yourself?

03:35:26.000 Oh, pretty good.

03:35:28.000 Mr. Brodin, back when you said George Bush Sr. 0.92

03:35:32.000 was director of the CIA, the CIA needed money to build, they're called dumb, deep underground military bases.

03:35:41.000 And what they did is they couldn't funnel the money to Congress because that would be like going through the people.

03:35:48.000 So what they did is they approached George Bush Sr.

03:35:51.000 because he had the first offshore drilling rigs.

03:35:53.000 He owns Papata Oil here in Texas.

03:35:56.000 And they started the whole cocaine running.

03:36:00.000 They would bring the drugs onto the oil rigs and then into America and didn't have to go through customs.

03:36:05.000 Well, sir, let me just stop you.

03:36:07.000 The Russell Trust set up Skill and Bones as an opium monopoly and the British East India Company and these same families have been bringing the drugs in here forever. 0.67

03:36:17.000 And they were engaged in narcotics trafficking in World War II, so to say that... But just go ahead and make your point.

03:36:24.000 Yeah, my point is the connection with JFK.

03:36:29.000 Now, when they did this... Hold on a second.

03:36:35.000 What it comes down to is, okay, they built the underground military bases, and they funneled money through Congress.

03:36:43.000 Kennedy found out about this.

03:36:44.000 He found out about the drug situation, and he found out about the alien situation.

03:36:49.000 He gave them two weeks to tell the American people about the alien situation and to get rid of the drugs. 0.66

03:36:57.000 Three days later, he was dead.

03:36:58.000 Alright, listen, I appreciate your call, Ray.

03:37:01.000 I'm just not going to go there, but thank you.

03:37:04.000 Let's talk to Nelson in LA.

03:37:06.000 You're on the air with our guest.

03:37:09.000 Robert, how are you doing?

03:37:12.000 My question was, I've got the documentary of the James Files confession.

03:37:17.000 I wanted to know if there was any validation with that.

03:37:21.000 The James Files situation is an open question.

03:37:25.000 I tend to believe at least the majority of it, simply because here's a guy who's Telling a story that can be checked out, or a great deal of it can be checked out, and the government refuses to find out if it's true or not.

03:37:40.000 They won't investigate it.

03:37:42.000 And I think the reason why they're not is because they're afraid that they'd find out that it is true.

03:37:47.000 I tend not to immediately dismiss anything along that line.

03:37:53.000 And here's a guy who's telling a story that most of it can be proven.

03:37:57.000 The only part that can't be proven is his personal stuff.

03:38:03.000 Thank you Nelson, we've got to move faster to get to everybody.

03:38:08.000 What about Madeline Duncan Brown?

03:38:11.000 I knew Madeline for years.

03:38:13.000 She and I had known each other, not the same way that Lyndon knew her.

03:38:19.000 We, uh, I tended to believe her story.

03:38:22.000 Do you think they killed their son, uh, with that fast-acting cancer?

03:38:26.000 Well, it's possible.

03:38:27.000 I only spoke to Stephen, uh, once, uh, Lyndon's, uh, son.

03:38:31.000 Well, he looked, just so you know.

03:38:33.000 I mean, he was, he was admittedly his mistress.

03:38:34.000 I mean, that's on record.

03:38:36.000 Oh, yeah.

03:38:36.000 But the thing is that, uh, will we ever know all of that story?

03:38:40.000 I don't know.

03:38:40.000 But, you know, Madeline swore under oath before Congress that Lyndon told her about the, uh, Yeah, what's up, Alex?

03:38:47.000 First off, I want to thank you guys for your work.

03:38:51.000 Okay, Ronnie in L.A.

03:38:54.000 Go ahead, Ronnie.

03:38:55.000 Yeah, what's up, Alex?

03:38:57.000 First off, I want to thank you guys for your work.

03:38:59.000 I just had a quick comment on how controlled the media is and how all this ties in together and how scripted everything is.

03:39:08.000 Because there's no question JFK assassination was inside job, 9-11 was inside job, no doubt. 0.59

03:39:15.000 All evidence points that way.

03:39:16.000 But it's funny how, speaking of the W movie, you said on your quick review on Monday or Sunday, you said that how they built up Colin Powell as if he was this genius or hero.

03:39:29.000 And then on Monday, you turn on the TV and, you know, he has this, all the media outlets, they have him with this well-prepared speech on how he endorses Obama.

03:39:42.000 Yeah, you've got Schwarzenegger endorsing Obama.

03:39:45.000 You've got Powell doing it.

03:39:46.000 I mean, all the front men, it tells you who they want.

03:39:49.000 I'm not saying go for McCain either.

03:39:50.000 The point is, is they're going to sucker everybody big time.

03:39:53.000 Thanks for the call here.

03:39:55.000 Let's take one last call.

03:39:57.000 Rick in Texas, go ahead.

03:40:02.000 Yeah, Rick, you want to go on air?

03:40:03.000 Yeah, thanks.

03:40:04.000 I didn't know you.

03:40:05.000 Hey, in your book, there's a picture of the limousine speeding away from the school book depository.

03:40:11.000 Then you blow it up and look at the people on the street, and there's Oswald on the street dressed in his clothes he was arrested in.

03:40:19.000 Can you speak to that?

03:40:20.000 Can you talk about maybe if there's enough time for him to get off the street and into that lunchroom?

03:40:26.000 If you're talking about the man in the doorway, Uh, of the Depository, it's not Lee Oswald, it's Billy Lovelady.

03:40:33.000 Uh, Billy Lovelady looked very much like Lee Oswald from the front.

03:40:38.000 From the side, he looked nothing like him.

03:40:40.000 And I presented pictures from both the front and the side.

03:40:44.000 Uh, at the time that picture was taken, the actual moment that was taken, Lee was on the second floor talking to a woman named Geraldine Reed.

03:40:53.000 Mrs. Reed testified to the Warren Commission about this.

03:40:56.000 They told her to keep her mouth shut. 0.87

03:40:58.000 She has just recently passed away, and there's a whole chapter in my new book relating to what she said.

03:41:03.000 Alright, why... I have a question.

03:41:05.000 Why did they kill the Dallas cop that looked just like Oswald?

03:41:09.000 Do you think he was some kind of double or involved?

03:41:11.000 Well, J.D.

03:41:12.000 Tippett, the cop you're talking about, didn't look all that much like President Kennedy, really.

03:41:17.000 They were, you know, both slim-billed and like that, but I think the reason why they killed Officer Tippett was in order to link Oswald to something that the Dallas police would care about.

03:41:28.000 They wouldn't care about the assassination of President Kennedy.

03:41:32.000 That was meant to get them hyped up to go along with later killing him.

03:41:35.000 There you go.

03:41:35.000 So that the warning shot, when Oswald was finally found, would find its mark.

03:41:40.000 So that's a false flag.

03:41:42.000 Again, to get the cops stirred up, manipulate them.

03:41:45.000 That's what I think.

03:41:45.000 I mean, don't forget Officer Tippett was killed with an automatic and Oswald had a revolver.

03:41:50.000 It was not the same type of weapon.

03:41:52.000 Absolutely.

03:41:53.000 Rick, I've got to let you go and I'm sorry we heard those calls.

03:41:55.000 We have to let our guest go.

03:41:56.000 I don't want to abuse his time and I've got some news I want to cover.

03:41:59.000 Robert Grodin, I really appreciate you spending all this time with us and I can't wait to see you again when we tape with you for a couple days up in Dallas after this year's anniversary.

03:42:11.000 So I will see you soon, my friend, and thank you for all your tireless work.

03:42:15.000 You're a real champion of liberty and truth.

03:42:17.000 Thank you, Alex.

03:42:18.000 That's very kind of you.

03:42:19.000 And so are you, certainly.

03:42:20.000 All right.

03:42:20.000 God bless you and take care of my... Oh, wait.

03:42:22.000 Is there any numbers you want to give out to get your books and videos, or is it just the website?

03:42:26.000 No, just the website.

03:42:27.000 JFKMurder.com is the easiest way.

03:42:29.000 There's an address there.

03:42:31.000 There's an order form.

03:42:33.000 And as soon as the new book is available, it'll be announced on the website.

03:42:37.000 Okay.

03:42:38.000 Thank you so much, sir.

03:42:39.000 Thank you.

03:42:40.000 Take care.

03:42:40.000 There he goes.

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03:45:09.000 The first thing that came to me was the audio tape, which he sent to me in January of 2004.

03:45:16.000 He didn't call me and let me know that he was sending it, but one day I just checked my mail, picked up my mail, and there was a package from my father.

03:45:26.000 There was no explanation of what was on this tape, so I just put the tape in my cassette recorder, and in it he outlines his knowledge of the conspiracy, which was codenamed The Big Event.

03:45:39.000 I was a benchwarmer on it, and I had a reputation for honesty.

03:45:45.000 I think it's essential to refocus on what this information that I've been providing you, and you alone by the way, consists of.

03:45:58.000 What is important in the story is that we've backtracked the chain of command up through up through Kordmeyer and laying the doings at the doorstep of LBJ.

03:46:17.000 He was sick, and he wrote this out, as you can see by the handwriting, with great difficulty.

03:46:25.000 It's a little hard to read some of it, but at the top here we have the initials LBJ, which, of course, was the vice president at the time.

03:46:33.000 Below this we have Kordmeyer, who was a CIA officer.

03:46:38.000 Below that we have named David Morales, who was also a CIA.

03:46:44.000 I don't know if he was official CIA, but I certainly heard his name before in relation to contract work that he did with the CIA.

03:46:53.000 I think he was a pretty serious guy, a guy capable of doing just about anything.

03:46:59.000 And to the right, the next name is Bill Harvey, who was a very flamboyant CIA man, carried around a couple pistols in his belt at all times, was a heavy drinker.

03:47:12.000 And below at the bottom it says French gunman Grassi Nol.

03:47:16.000 I mean, you've said now that David Phillips apparently met with Oswald in Mexico City before the assassination.

03:47:24.000 You've said that Bill Harvey may very well have recruited a French or Corsican gunman to shoot.

03:47:33.000 And you also said that Cord Meyer had a motive in that his wife was having an affair with John F. Kennedy.

03:47:40.000 I heard from Frank that LBJ had designated Kort Meier Jr.

03:47:48.000 to undertake a larger organization while keeping it totally secret.

03:47:56.000 I think that LBJ settled on Meier as an opportunist parent, like himself a parent.

03:48:07.000 And a man who had very little left to him in life ever since JFK had taken Cord White as one of his mistresses.

03:48:21.000 And of course, could not number Cord Meier among JFK's admirers.

03:48:30.000 Quite the contrary.

03:48:31.000 So now you have three CIA officials Who had, let's say, the means, motive and opportunity, you know, or some connection to kill Kennedy.

03:48:42.000 That's true. 0.53

03:48:44.000 But Johnson, as we all know, was a very corrupt president. 0.59

03:48:49.000 Yeah. 0.60

03:48:50.000 Very capable of doing evil deeds, don't you think?

03:48:57.000 Unquestionably.

03:48:58.000 Unquestionably. 0.98

03:48:59.000 And if he wanted something done, he may have turned to someone like Bill Harvey, who was also extremely corrupt and a psycho, basically. 0.96

03:49:09.000 Yeah. 0.96

03:49:11.000 Oh, yes.

03:49:13.000 I could just visualize Harvey and LBJ forming a kind of a thieves' compact between them.

03:49:25.000 But I think that LBJ He was an opportunist and was not hesitated to get rid of obstacles in his way.

03:49:40.000 I think his later career exemplified that.

03:49:45.000 The Vice President had the most to gain.

03:49:49.000 And he was in a position where he could bring in people like Cornmire and Others of interest and get their take on different things and then in turn issue instructions.

03:50:09.000 There was nobody with the leverage that LBJ had.

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03:50:19.000 He was the vice president and if he wanted to get rid of The President said he had the ability to do so by corrupting different people in the CIA.

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03:53:56.000 They could do something, turn their back on it, move on to something else.

03:54:07.000 to adopt like a military There was no accounting in that sense.

03:54:14.000 And we know that LBJ had an unlimited ambition. 0.55

03:54:22.000 And we know that he was a corrupt individual.

03:54:27.000 And that the dollar sign was very important to him.

03:54:32.000 As Vice President, he didn't have the leverage That a president did or would.

03:54:41.000 And so that was an attractive goal for LBJ.

03:54:45.000 He did not want his career to come to an end as vice president.

03:54:51.000 Who knows about vice presidents?

03:54:54.000 It was very, very important to him that he take advantage As to the extent that he could as Vice President, because just a few things had to be accomplished. 0.86

03:55:11.000 He had to kill Kennedy, or have him killed, I should say, and be guilt-free himself. 0.79

03:55:21.000 Then he could go on and do what he wanted to do as President of the United States. 0.89

03:55:30.000 It was a very tempting An almost illogical move on his part.

03:55:43.000 I keep thinking about Bill Harvey.

03:55:46.000 Call Harvey and say, look, there's some things I want to have done.

03:55:51.000 I mean, Harvey didn't want just another, an additional CIA salary.

03:55:59.000 He wanted to move on.

03:56:02.000 And LBJ could do that for him if he were president.

03:56:08.000 He couldn't do much for Harvey or anybody as vice president.

03:56:16.000 That was why he used Harvey for being available and corrupt.

03:56:25.000 It was very easy for even the vice president to start working with Harvey or anybody else.

03:56:35.000 Just say, "I want you to do this, I want you to do that." And making sure that they had money that was not their own to do whatever the LBJ wanted to have done.

03:56:51.000 So that when the President was assassinated, the Vice President was right there and ready to move along.

03:57:02.000 It doesn't speak well for our democracy at that particular time.

03:57:07.000 He, in my opinion, had an almost maniacal urge to become President.

03:57:15.000 He regarded JFK is... There's about five, six minutes left and again it goes back into the new footage and then it cuts back into the old audio, but this is very important.

03:57:26.000 It needs to be seen.

03:57:28.000 We aired about 60, 70 percent of it here today.

03:57:30.000 We've got hours and hours of it, but that's the main stuff, you know, admitting they killed JFK there.

03:57:36.000 That's the kind of stuff that'll get a hit team down here, but footage is there and there's nothing new, government.

03:57:43.000 There's nothing else.

03:57:44.000 There it is.

03:57:48.000 But we shouldn't have sat on it that long, and we're going to put it in the film a lot more.

03:57:54.000 But I'm just not going to let that sit around here.

03:57:57.000 It needs to get out now.

03:57:58.000 I think Robert Grodin needs not be sitting on the stuff he's got.

03:58:01.000 I've seen it.

03:58:02.000 It's unbelievable.

03:58:03.000 But his book's coming out, so say hello.

03:58:09.000 We had Grodin on for two and a half hours, roughly.

03:58:14.000 And I covered a lot of news, of course, in the first hour as well on a host of important issues and took a bunch of phone calls.

03:58:20.000 So it was a really good radio show today on this Thursday edition, the 23rd of October, 2008.

03:58:26.000 And on the AM and FM dial, we'll be back different times of the day and night on stations that air us on the internet, one place, rebroadcast right now, back in one minute, on the streams exclusively at InfoWars.com.

Alex Jones Show - October 23, 2008

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