Alex Jones Show - 20081205_Fri_Alex

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00:00:06.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:18.000 It is Friday, December 5, 2008.

00:00:22.000 For the next 50, well, no more than an hour, we're going to have Webster Tarpley in studio.

00:00:29.000 With us, we're going to be talking about what really happened with the Mumbai attacks, all the evidence of false flag there with Western intelligence trying to get the two nations fighting with each other.

00:00:39.000 We're going to talk about Barack H. Obama and what his presidency is really going to mean to this nation.

00:00:45.000 Also with the Supreme Court meeting today to consider further hearings on checking his U.S.

00:00:51.000 citizenship and demanding his original birth certificate.

00:00:54.000 We'll talk about that as well, Webster Tarpley in studio.

00:00:57.000 But he was listening out in the green room During the break, when I was covering Canadian Prime Minister Wynne's suspension of Parliament, and we just went live at PrisonPlanet.tv, so I'll recap that for the viewers out there.

00:01:09.000 Canadian Prime Minister Wynne's suspension of Parliament, and it says, Governor General Michelle Jean, the representative of the Queen Elizabeth, Canada's head of state, Agreed to Harper's request to shut down Parliament until January 26th.

00:01:21.000 Parliament was reconvened just weeks ago after October 14th election.

00:01:24.000 Now, he lost control of the government, became the minority party, but was refusing to allow elections within Parliament to have a new Prime Minister seated.

00:01:32.000 That's how Parliamentary systems work.

00:01:36.000 Our country was much more similar to this until 1913 with the 17th Amendment when states' legislators stopped appointing senators.

00:01:44.000 That was their trump with states' rights over total federalism.

00:01:49.000 But this is imperium here because she is the head of state and Canadians and Australians and others in the 20-plus Commonwealth nations always say, oh, well, that's just figurative, that's just ceremonial, her as the head of state.

00:02:00.000 No, no, no.

00:02:01.000 If you read the charters of these commonwealths, it is the parliaments that are ceremonial, and it is the Queen's governorship, or through her governors, that is actually the power.

00:02:11.000 So there it is in Reuters, and every time I mention these reports.

00:02:17.000 People just don't believe me.

00:02:18.000 And Webster Tarpley has written books on the British Imperium, written many articles on it in its form of government.

00:02:23.000 So in the time we have left in this limited segment, Webster, I would love to, well first off, welcome you to the studio, but then also give you a chance to break down the article.

00:02:33.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

00:02:34.000 Thank you for inviting me.

00:02:36.000 It's wonderful to be here.

00:02:37.000 And congratulations to you for everything that you're doing.

00:02:41.000 This is the first I've heard of this.

00:02:42.000 There was supposed to be a vote of no confidence against Harper by the Parliament.

00:02:47.000 Now remember, under the Canadian and indeed British Commonwealth system, the Queen is the head of state of all of these places, and it's about 70 countries.

00:02:57.000 It's a huge group.

00:02:58.000 And in the case of Canada and Australia, we have these Royal Governors General, and the Royal Governor General is the guy who's just done this, this guy, Governor General Michel Jean.

00:03:11.000 So he's the personal representative of the Queen, and you can see that he has more power than the Parliament and the Prime Minister, meaning that we had this agitation in Canada in the 1960s and 70s, Saying that the Constitution had to be repatriated, right?

00:03:28.000 They wanted to bring the Constitution home to Canada, and it turns out that was not done.

00:03:33.000 I would say for people who have trouble with this concept, there are two examples.

00:03:38.000 You can see that the Queen actually runs the show.

00:03:40.000 One is, in the Canadian NAFTA debate, in other words, to get the North American Free Trade Agreement passed, the Queen named new senators to the Canadian Senate to stack it, to pack it, to make sure that there was a majority in favor of NAFTA.

00:03:53.000 That's right, they were supposedly going to be elected, but as soon as they didn't go the way she wanted, she came in... She packed it.

00:03:59.000 Right.

00:03:59.000 And then the other one is maybe even more spectacular.

00:04:01.000 In Australia, Gow Whitlam, about 1975, was the Prime Minister of Australia and he said, look, there's an oil crisis.

00:04:08.000 I'm going to make direct deals with Arab oil producers, oil for technology.

00:04:13.000 Australia will produce technology for them.

00:04:14.000 We'll get our oil guaranteed.

00:04:16.000 And London and New York said no.

00:04:17.000 And at that point, the Governor General of Australia intervened to overthrow Whitlam and impose Malcolm Fraser.

00:04:24.000 And it was a complicated thing because the The Australian Parliament immediately voted no confidence in the new puppet, Fraser, and tried to get Whitlam back, and there was a period of about six months of tremendous chaos.

00:04:37.000 Who won that fight?

00:04:38.000 The Queen.

00:04:39.000 Because, see, what the Queen represents, the Queen is not, she's not somebody like Stalin, but she doesn't have all power, but she represents the oligarchy as a whole.

00:04:48.000 In other words, she's the spokesperson, she's the doge, if you like, or the dogeressa.

00:04:52.000 But she does have Stalin-esque, she just doesn't want to use the power, because then that reveals that these parliaments are really ceremonial, but there's still danger within the ceremonial parliaments, because they truly have been voted in, so they hold the true, organic, rightful power, and then could rally the people with their bully pulpit to throw out the oligarchy.

00:05:13.000 Right.

00:05:14.000 And the question of rallying the people is the absolutely critical thing, because if you don't rally the people, then the oligarchs are going to run wild.

00:05:20.000 And we see that they're running wild.

00:05:21.000 It also shows that the entire Anglo-American world is now descending into a form of chaos, emergency rule. 0.62

00:05:29.000 Because they're having to now take the veil off, the velvet glove off the iron fist, and really show people the true machinery.

00:05:36.000 Just like here in the U.S. 0.97

00:05:37.000 they're announcing, yes, we're going to use regular army against the people.

00:05:40.000 Yes, the governors are now puppets of the president.

00:05:42.000 Yes, you're living under martial law.

00:05:44.000 They're throwing the gauntlet down.

00:05:45.000 Webster Tarper, let's finish up with this riveting information when we get back, and then get into a lot more.

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00:09:22.000 Now, England and 20-plus other Commonwealth nations are truly governed by the Queen as the head of state.

00:09:35.000 Her Governor Generals control the bureaucracy, they control the intelligence agencies, they push through all of the attacks on the internet, free speech in Canada.

00:09:45.000 It is the Governor General, if you read deeply into the last six months, they're saying, we're only going to let you have a few thousand websites you can visit, they've all got to be certified.

00:09:54.000 We're talking Chinese Communist level censorship or even greater.

00:09:58.000 China allows millions of sites to be visited and restricts millions.

00:10:03.000 Canada's talking about just a few thousand and it's not being done even by law.

00:10:07.000 The regulators, because again the Governor General controls the commerce, And if Parliament doesn't do what they want, they just remove them, as they've just done.

00:10:15.000 They suspend them, or expel them.

00:10:17.000 And that'll be the next move, if they don't play ball, as you talked about them winning a fight decades ago in Australia, similarly.

00:10:24.000 And so, that's why you see Australia announcing, what, two weeks ago, that they are going to only have a few thousand websites that you can visit.

00:10:31.000 Headlines!

00:10:32.000 You know, web to have Chinese-style censorship.

00:10:35.000 In Australia.

00:10:36.000 Google that.

00:10:37.000 Hundreds of headlines.

00:10:38.000 And the news was saying, this is good!

00:10:40.000 Because obviously they're the mainstream media.

00:10:42.000 They also want to team up, like for like, with the establishment to restrict the burgeoning, exploding alternative media.

00:10:49.000 Now, here in the United States, as Webster was just saying, they're trying to bring in a similar system of total executive power.

00:10:56.000 Dictatorial power over the states, over the Congress, threatening them with martial law, North Com, trips on the streets.

00:11:02.000 The question is, from the onset of this nation in 1776, that was a rebellion, as I said earlier, against the very same Saxe-Coburg-Gothas, the very same German family that had just been in for two generations by then in England.

00:11:18.000 You know, King George III removing governors, removing legislators, appointing governor generals, bringing back in this type of system and we had a war over it because the British soldiers were coming to then disarm the people and to put troops on the streets of the 13 colonies.

00:11:37.000 So, same families, same players, same nations, same groups, Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it, and that's why it's so important to study history.

00:11:47.000 And now in Canada, she just says, you know what?

00:11:50.000 Parliament, you're no longer in authority.

00:11:52.000 I'm keeping Stephen Harper in power because he's honchoing the North American Union.

00:11:56.000 He's honchoing letting the banks loot Canada and changing the rules.

00:12:01.000 He is going along with all that, and Webster Tarpley is just an amazing historian and written papers and books on this subject.

00:12:06.000 So Webster, I want to get into Mumbai, but let's get back into this and flesh it all out, because this is so, so vitally important.

00:12:15.000 Well, I would say the only adequate answer to what the Queen and her Governor General have done would be a nationwide open-ended general strike, saying, bring the Parliament back together and let them vote.

00:12:26.000 And we don't accept dictation from London or any place else.

00:12:30.000 But as soon as you say that, you see the predicament of the Anglo-American world.

00:12:33.000 In none of these countries do we have organizations that would be interested in mass struggle or even capable of conducting a mass struggle.

00:12:41.000 And that's due to the propaganda through the media.

00:12:43.000 Well, it's due to the atomization.

00:12:44.000 I mean, political parties used to exist.

00:12:46.000 They're largely gone.

00:12:47.000 They largely exist on television.

00:12:49.000 They don't have organizations.

00:12:51.000 It's infiltration of the labor unions, the media, everything has been commandeered.

00:12:56.000 Right, but that's the question now for all of us, is we've got to find ways to create new institutions, and that means institutions.

00:13:05.000 I mean, it means ultimately the end of this, you know, offices in cities, right?

00:13:10.000 If you had an organization with offices in five hundred or a thousand American cities, let's say, you could mount a protest against the things that Obama's going to be doing.

00:13:19.000 I mean, we've got to look ahead now to this period of The 20th of January, the inauguration, till about May 1st.

00:13:26.000 Okay, I want to do that.

00:13:27.000 The hundred days to fashion.

00:13:28.000 I want to put bookends on the discussion of the shadow government roundtable group, Governor General, maritime or administrative law system that the British Imperium, the Anglo-American establishment is using.

00:13:43.000 Finish up breaking down how this shadow government operates in the commonwealths, how they're trying through executive to set one up here and across Europe again.

00:13:53.000 And finish up, because that's key, how they're doing this because they're under attack, they're losing their power, they have gotten into a crisis, and then let's get into Mubai, and then into Obama. 0.73

00:14:05.000 Just in terms of the British system, the British system is a copy of the Venetian system.

00:14:10.000 The British monarch is the doge, or in this case the female doge, of the entire oligarchy, and this was copied.

00:14:17.000 The French model of a monarch is a little bit different, right?

00:14:20.000 Something like Louis XIV.

00:14:21.000 That's absolutism, and that's a step beyond, although that also has positive features.

00:14:27.000 That's the divine right of kings.

00:14:29.000 Yeah, pretty much.

00:14:30.000 And that was tried in England, that was tried by James I and Charles I, and as you mentioned before, Charles I got his head cut off back in about 1640.

00:14:39.000 And since then, you've had these things, the rise of the Whig Party, the English Whig Party, or the Great Nobility, who are about equal to the king, and the king or the monarch becomes a spokesperson So, the British model is the monarch expresses the collective will of the oligarchy.

00:14:59.000 Now, there have been times... And they only ceded power because of 1215, and then other struggles in 1640, when they found that the middle class, the upper middle class, the gentry, continued to overthrow the monarchy, so the two interbred and combined forces.

00:15:15.000 Yeah, well, the outcome of all that process, and it's a complicated one, is that by 1688, by the so-called Glorious Revolution, you have the oligarchy in England putting in William of Orange, William and Mary, and that's a Venetian doge system where the oligarchy picks the king, gets rid of one king, gets rid of James II, brings in William and Mary, and from about 1688 to 1832 you've got this perfect oligarchy.

00:15:42.000 And it's gotten, you know, they've had some rocky times since.

00:15:44.000 The one example that you want to point to, King Edward VII is an example of somebody who really did combine in himself this kind of power, because he had been the Prince of Wales under Queen Victoria.

00:15:57.000 So that meant he had about 50 or 60 years where the mother was the queen.

00:16:01.000 He called her, my eternal mother.

00:16:04.000 She never decided to leave the scene.

00:16:07.000 So the Prince of Wales, Edward VII, Created this unparalleled network, and he created the alliance system that brought on World War I. In other words, if you wanted to say, one person who did most to cause World War I, that would be King Edward VII, because he created this triple entente, right, to crush Germany between Russia, France, and the British, and even he detached Italy from the German-Austrian coalition.

00:16:32.000 So, this is a very, very evil institution, and with the British monarchy, you're getting very close to the To the heart of power in the world.

00:16:41.000 Again, not so much that the Queen embodies this power in herself, but that she represents the City of London, the Court, the Foreign Office, the worldwide networks, the Commonwealth, the Royal Bank of Canada.

00:16:53.000 She is the spokesperson.

00:16:55.000 Yeah, and she's the delegated, you know, she's the chairman of the board, maybe, and also spokesperson. 0.79

00:17:01.000 And it's the same thing in the Netherlands with the Queen there as well, who are also intermarried, you know, into that same family.

00:17:08.000 Right, and the monument to that is this tremendous conglomerate, Royal Dutch Shell, which really is, it's Anglo-Dutch, and this is the heart of the Royal Dutch Shell.

00:17:19.000 It's 50% British, 50% Dutch. 1.00

00:17:21.000 Right, and there we had somebody like Sir Henry Dedderding in the 1920s and 30s who was a big supporter of Hitler.

00:17:27.000 And that went back to 300 years previously when they merged the Dutch East India with the British East India.

00:17:32.000 Right, and this 1688 that I just mentioned, and it's bringing in William of Orange.

00:17:36.000 In other words, William the King of Holland, the Stadtholder, or King, or whatever they call him, to bring him in and also become King of England.

00:17:44.000 And he was brought in out of Germany.

00:17:45.000 And then go against Louis XIV.

00:17:48.000 Here's a question, and I've studied this quite a bit, but you probably know more, obviously.

00:17:52.000 Was it just that there had been so much interbreeding with the original Normans and the French and others that the British line were having trouble having children?

00:17:59.000 Is that why?

00:18:00.000 Because they had all those little states in Germany?

00:18:02.000 How did the German royal line, which hadn't been dominant previously, end up populating all the major royal thrones by 1750?

00:18:11.000 Well, I would say maybe a little bit later.

00:18:13.000 A lot of these people are the... Well, the Germans were in control by 1700. 0.97

00:18:17.000 The nieces and nephews of Queen Victoria.

00:18:20.000 That's, again, Edward VII was known as the Uncle of Europe, because all of the... The Tsar of Russia was his nephew.

00:18:28.000 The German Kaiser was his nephew.

00:18:30.000 The Austrians, they had blood there. 1.00

00:18:31.000 Yeah, but the big thing is that Queen Victoria had a lot of children, and the intermarriage there meant that you have a kind of a merger of many or most of the European royal houses with the British one, because the British, of course, they had naval supremacy, they had financial supremacy, they had kind of a pecking order supremacy.

00:18:51.000 I mean, Kaiser Wilhelm, poor guy, Emperor William II of Germany, was obsessed with the idea that Edward VII of England was much more prestigious and much more You know, he had much greater rank in the world oligarchical universe than he did.

00:19:07.000 So, it's basically a united thing, and that's what you see today.

00:19:11.000 But again, what the Queen is representing here is a decision that comes from the City of London, it comes from the Toronto Financial District, it comes really from Wall Street, too, because there are a lot of people there who are sort of dual You know, loyalty people are looking to the British as the homeland.

00:19:30.000 Also notice that the $700 billion bailout that we fought against and tried to stop... Which is now $8.4 trillion.

00:19:36.000 Right, right.

00:19:38.000 That was a British model bailout.

00:19:40.000 The whole idea from that came from Gordon Brown, Alistair Darling...

00:19:45.000 He was the big inspiration of that.

00:19:48.000 Now, we've got a funny situation.

00:19:49.000 If you look at Citibank, Citibank got $25 billion, I think, under the first round of the bailout, the Gordon Brown British model bailout, and began to go bankrupt a second time, right?

00:20:00.000 So now Citibank had to get a second bailout.

00:20:03.000 This one was done under the Swiss model.

00:20:05.000 This was done under the bad bank model, where you create this separate bank and put all the toxic derivatives into that one.

00:20:11.000 And throw it overboard. 0.83

00:20:12.000 And now they're going to go bankrupt again.

00:20:14.000 So what do you do when they go bankrupt for the third time?

00:20:17.000 You've tried the British model, it failed.

00:20:19.000 You've tried the Swiss model.

00:20:20.000 I think it's clear that the Citibank is a candidate for Chapter 11 reorganization and wipe out the derivatives.

00:20:27.000 Let me digress, then we'll get more into the bailout, the banker takeover, and then moving to Mumbai, because I want to spend time on that, and then Obama coming up in the next hour.

00:20:35.000 Isn't it extremely dangerous, and they don't do this a lot, to have the Queen go ahead and come right out in the open and basically show Canadians and the world that these commonwealths are really governed by the shadow government and that their parliaments do serve basically at the pleasure and as ceremonial legates?

00:20:56.000 It's dangerous, and the question was, who's going to do something about it?

00:21:00.000 Now you have this left-wing thing called the New Democratic Party.

00:21:04.000 Are they going to do anything?

00:21:05.000 How about it, New Democrats?

00:21:06.000 Are you going to fight for some notion of rule of law?

00:21:10.000 Why is the Queen and Harper going after the liberals?

00:21:10.000 That's the question.

00:21:15.000 I think it's a combination of two things.

00:21:16.000 It's on the one side the idea that they think that nobody will fight.

00:21:19.000 Is there a Canadian Trade Union Federation?

00:21:21.000 Are there Québécois?

00:21:23.000 How about the Québécois?

00:21:25.000 Will the Canadian media tell people what this is, what they're seeing?

00:21:29.000 Yeah, that's unlikely.

00:21:31.000 But there might be, again, the challenge is if somebody pulls a coup d'état, this is a cold coup by the Queen.

00:21:40.000 The only answer to a cold coup of any kind is an open-ended nationwide general strike.

00:21:45.000 And there should be a million Canadians right now protesting in Ottawa.

00:21:49.000 And that should be a general strike.

00:21:50.000 In other words, shut it down.

00:21:51.000 The model for all this stuff is the Kopp Putsch in Germany in 1920, 1921.

00:21:59.000 A group of sort of proto-fascist civil servants and officers took over the government.

00:22:04.000 This is guy Kopp.

00:22:06.000 And the answer to that was the Social Democratic Party and the trade unions said, we're shutting it all down.

00:22:12.000 Nothing moves.

00:22:13.000 And Hitler tried that with the Munich Putsch a few years later. 0.87

00:22:16.000 Right, that's a second attempt at the Kapp Putsch.

00:22:19.000 But the Kapp Putsch is a case where they actually did seize the government in Berlin and then had to give it up because the ruling elite got scared and they said, oh my God, somebody's fighting, we better back off and we'll try again another day.

00:22:31.000 Because they understand something that causes random explosions can be dangerous to them.

00:22:36.000 Right, but in this case, they had an organization which we don't have.

00:22:39.000 We don't have a Social Democratic Party or anything like it.

00:22:42.000 We don't have a trade union.

00:22:43.000 We don't have a real liberal arm.

00:22:45.000 It's all infiltrated.

00:22:46.000 Well, we don't have mass organizations.

00:22:48.000 The biggest thing is that there's a complete atomization of the U.S.

00:22:51.000 population.

00:22:51.000 Well, that's infiltration by the left gatekeepers and by the right gatekeepers into any organization.

00:22:57.000 I mean, if we try to have a meeting of 200 people, A provocateur shows up and tries to cause a problem.

00:23:02.000 So that gets into the whole other area of the science of dealing with them and throwing them out.

00:23:06.000 I mean, I let very few in my office because I've had folks show up randomly, you know, with a videotape and then try to claim we did something to them.

00:23:13.000 You know, then run around.

00:23:14.000 There's major COINTELPRO in this town, Webster.

00:23:16.000 Well, the only way you fight the arrogance of secret intelligence agencies and people who do this is with mass organization, and it's got to start with mass education.

00:23:25.000 Well, there's got to be more organizations, too, not just even... You say mass, those are easy to infiltrate with the tools the enemies developed.

00:23:34.000 What about a general manifesto of liberty and thousands of groups then joining together spontaneously in what the enemy is most worried about in their own military projections, and that is flash mobs?

00:23:45.000 Well, a united front.

00:23:48.000 In other words, a united front, because right now we don't have such an umbrella organization, so the only thing we could do right now that would be realistic is to say, let's have a united front.

00:23:57.000 I've talked about calling something like, Americans against fascism.

00:24:01.000 I believe this is an anti-fascist country.

00:24:03.000 I think that's the one thing we can still say about the U.S.

00:24:05.000 The American people are opposed to fascism.

00:24:09.000 And the stuff with Obama, it comes from the crimes of Bush, Cheney, and the neocons.

00:24:13.000 A lot of people thought they were voting against the devil they knew.

00:24:16.000 Unfortunately, they didn't know the devil they were getting, who is several circles deeper in the inferno than Bush and Cheney.

00:24:26.000 He's not the bottom.

00:24:27.000 He's not quite the bottom still.

00:24:29.000 There's something even worse than Obama coming from the wings.

00:24:32.000 But a lot of people thought they were voting against that, and of course a lot of people are voting because they see a depression, and they say, well, you know, let's get these reactionary Republicans out of there, and let's get a Democrat.

00:24:45.000 Meanwhile, the enemy had already seen that people were going to rebel after eight years of this, so years ago they had groomed and prepared this foundation front with all of these Stalin-esque and Lenin-esque cover points, when really he's a corporatist to the core.

00:24:59.000 Right, and he's a Mussolini, and certainly he does have these overtones of Soviet-style totalitarianism, beyond any doubt, but the ultimate thing is... They're borrowing from every...

00:25:11.000 I mean, the most horrible pieces from every machine of dehumanization and combining in here.

00:25:17.000 It's a cookbook, and that's the cookbook of the CIA people power coup, or color revolution.

00:25:22.000 It's the Kiev 2004 cookbook.

00:25:24.000 It's the Tiflis, Georgia 2003-2004 cookbook.

00:25:29.000 They've tried it someplace else.

00:25:30.000 They've even tried in north of Israel, in Lebanon, to come in with these color revolutions, but it seems like the color revolutions are blowing up on every front.

00:25:39.000 Yeah, but see, the Lebanon one is interesting, because there they tried to do the Cedars revolution with the rich Christian Maronites and so forth, and they ran right up against, in this case, a real mass organization. 0.88

00:25:50.000 Hezbollah.

00:25:51.000 You can say what you want about Hezbollah, right?

00:25:53.000 You wouldn't want to endorse everything they do.

00:25:54.000 But that is an authentic mass organization, and they stopped it cold.

00:25:58.000 And they showed that they could put more people into the streets than the hysterical mass media and the U.S. Embassy and all their paid shills.

00:26:07.000 So that's a real good example.

00:26:09.000 I mean, again, we don't want to found a Hezbollah here, but a mass organization stops them. 0.98

00:26:17.000 Right now we don't have it.

00:26:18.000 So what we've got to do is, I mean, during the phase that we're in now, up until January 20th, the main thing, I think, is to educate people right there.

00:26:26.000 To denounce these people as they come forward, right?

00:26:28.000 Oh, Robert Gates, who's he?

00:26:30.000 Well, that's Zbigniew Brzezinski's office boy from 1977 to 1979.

00:26:34.000 That's a guy who was up to his neck in the October surprise, up to his neck in Iran-Contra.

00:26:41.000 He's the founder of Al-Qaeda. 0.98

00:26:43.000 The founder of Al-Qaeda, Robert Gates, is getting continuity at the Pentagon.

00:26:48.000 That's a great doorway into, let's talk about the founder of Al Qaeda, and then dovetail into Mubai, because all weekend we're going to be here talking to you about Obama himself for the film, but let's cover Mubai, because I don't know your view on that yet, but I bet I can guess.

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00:28:05.000 A day unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

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00:30:49.000 Here is the cover to Webster Griffin Tarpley's Japanese edition of Obama the Postmodern Food.

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00:31:09.000 And we've got one of his books sold at Infowars.com.

00:31:12.000 He's got two books on this subject.

00:31:14.000 Okay, before we leave, we'll plug that, Webster.

00:31:16.000 Webster, let's continue right now with where we've gotten to with what Al-Qaeda is, how it was created, how the establishment created radicalized Muslim groups that were already there, but funded them, expanded them to run around the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s.

00:31:30.000 This just didn't begin with Brzezinski to menace Governments that the establishment didn't like, and then after they let the extremist Muslims take over, then the West has a new enemy and recycles that. 0.88

00:31:42.000 But the point of Robert Gates, the Secretary of Defense that Obama has said he's keeping over, being literally the Brzezinski man at the Al-Qaeda desk with its founding, its organization in the late 1970s.

00:31:58.000 I think Gates sets the stage from a couple of points of view.

00:32:02.000 Last Wednesday, I got up in the morning, go outside, get the Washington Post, Gates will stay at the Pentagon, reading this thing in the afternoon, reports coming in, Mumbai terrorism.

00:32:13.000 So, the same day that the world learned in the papers That Obama had essentially accepted the dictation of his handlers to keep Gates at the Pentagon, throw out all this stuff about hope and change, change, no more change, Gates stays at the Pentagon.

00:32:32.000 Now, Robert Gates, who is this person?

00:32:35.000 Robert Gates, first of all, was, as Brzezinski says, from 1977 to 1979-80, when Brzezinski came to the National Security Council of the Jimmy Carter Trilateral Administration every morning, the first person he saw in the morning was Robert Gates, and the last person he saw in the evening when he left was Robert Gates.

00:32:54.000 So Robert Gates was his right-hand man, his Girl Friday, his office boy, right?

00:33:01.000 His gopher, his minion.

00:33:02.000 And we see this with these apprentices, with these Sith Lords, just like Kashkari is Paulson's long-term servant and minion, now handing out the 8.4 trill.

00:33:11.000 Right.

00:33:12.000 So, Gates is a clone of Zbigniew Brzezinski.

00:33:16.000 They say he's a Republican.

00:33:17.000 This doesn't matter at all.

00:33:19.000 Former CIA Director, also.

00:33:20.000 Yeah, we're going to get to it.

00:33:21.000 His career was sponsored by Zbigniew Brzezinski.

00:33:24.000 Now, recently, Gates signaled to all of us what he's going to do.

00:33:29.000 And he gave a speech.

00:33:30.000 I don't know if you saw this.

00:33:31.000 It's the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

00:33:34.000 Yes.

00:33:34.000 With Jessica Matthews.

00:33:35.000 It's the real think tank that really makes a lot of policy.

00:33:38.000 It's a pretty high-level one.

00:33:40.000 It's older.

00:33:41.000 Jessica Matthews, of course.

00:33:42.000 This is the daughter of Barbara Tuchman.

00:33:44.000 This is the daughter of Kuhn Loeb, Warburg, all this stuff.

00:33:48.000 The attempted Nazi coup in the 30s.

00:33:50.000 Right, so she's there, and Gates is in a mood of nostalgia.

00:33:55.000 He says, Hey, Jessica, speaking to a gathering at the Carnegie Endowment, he says, Jessica, Do you remember when both of us worked for Zbigniew Brzezinski at the National Security Council?

00:34:07.000 And we got this invitation to go to Algiers, in Algeria, on April 1st, I believe it was, of 1978, because that was the National Day, and there was an opportunity to meet with the Iranian leadership.

00:34:20.000 In other words, the Khomeiniacs, the Khomeini guys, the Khomeini Prime Minister, the Khomeini Defense Minister, and the Khomeini Foreign Minister.

00:34:27.000 That guy was Yazdi, he was the most important of these.

00:34:31.000 And he says, Jessica, you remember how Zbigniew gave a speech and he laid it all out for the Iranians.

00:34:36.000 And he said to them in a private meeting, look, Iranians.

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00:36:30.000 We're getting into right now the real Obama administration, the real players and individuals That he is putting in place, and if it is possible, it's an even more cold-blooded, wicked group of Anglo-American oligarchs. 0.96

00:36:45.000 But now with left cover, and we were getting into just one person of countless, Robert Gates, that he is bringing in to continue on as Secretary of Defense, meeting with the Comaniacs. 0.92

00:36:58.000 N78, right as they're being about to be installed there in Iran.

00:37:03.000 So let's continue with the founding of Al-Cieda and then that will be a perfect segue into Mumbai, that just happened in India.

00:37:13.000 So Gates is a clone of Brzezinski.

00:37:16.000 He was his office boy at the National Security Council, 1977 to 1979.

00:37:21.000 And then you get Brzezinski coming out with this proposition that Islamic fundamentalism is the greatest bulwark against Soviet communism and Soviet imperialism.

00:37:31.000 So Brzezinski plays the Islamic fundamentalist card with a vengeance.

00:37:35.000 Brzezinski is the founder of modern Islamic fundamentalism.

00:37:39.000 He's the one who made these people great.

00:37:42.000 We have then the secret meeting, and I cover this in Obama, The Postmodern Coup.

00:37:47.000 It was actually so hot that some of the editions around the world say, hey, wait a minute, can you prove this?

00:37:52.000 Well, in the meantime, I can, because Gates has come out and said it.

00:37:55.000 So Gates meets... But that's in so many historical records.

00:37:58.000 I mean, I knew that 15 years ago, and I didn't know one kid... Yeah, in general.

00:38:02.000 Pacific meeting, and it comes to the hostages, because here we have Brzezinski meeting with Yazdi, now they're in power, the Comaniacs have seized power, they're running Iran, the Shah has fled, he's in the U.S. 0.96

00:38:13.000 at this point.

00:38:14.000 So Brzezinski talks to the Foreign Minister Yazdi, who's an environmentalist wacko, he's a crazy eugenicist.

00:38:21.000 He's a Paul Pott, he's a Paul Pott of Iran, is the idea. 0.99

00:38:26.000 Yeah, so they're talking, so Brzezinski, and this is Gates telling the story, so Gates is telling the Carnegie Endowment, you know, Brzezinski laid it all out.

00:38:36.000 He said, look, we don't like Khomeini, but We're going to give you all the weapons that the Shah had ordered. 0.66

00:38:43.000 Everything the Shah wanted, we're going to give you.

00:38:45.000 We're going to give you all the weapons, right?

00:38:46.000 The Hawk missiles, the, you know, spare parts for your airplanes.

00:38:51.000 Because we have a common enemy.

00:38:53.000 It's the Soviets to your north. 0.97

00:38:55.000 The Soviets are our common enemy, so we're going to arm you. 1.00

00:38:58.000 So the intent is clear.

00:39:00.000 What Gates is trying to do is to say, remember that our basic approach to Iran over decades is to play Iran against the Russians in a war centered on the Caspian Sea.

00:39:11.000 That's why we're in the Middle East to begin with.

00:39:13.000 I mean, it's not just about weapons contracts or oil.

00:39:15.000 It's not so much even about Israel, though that's a part of it.

00:39:18.000 It's really about, and this is stated by the Pentagon, the encirclement of Russia, the containment of China.

00:39:22.000 Right.

00:39:23.000 World power, of which these other things that you mentioned, the oil and the Israelis, are subsets. 0.99

00:39:27.000 But it's about world domination, because when you're dealing with the Russians... And that's always good when you have subsets, because that gets all the power blocks together, when you have them unified with gain. 0.96

00:39:36.000 Right.

00:39:36.000 Which is what Bush failed to do, which is now what Obama will try to do.

00:39:39.000 So that is the nuance.

00:39:41.000 We're hearing there's going to be nuance, and that's going to be a more nuanced, more serpentine, Byzantine Yeah, the nuance is, instead of you bombing Iran, you play Iran against the Russians and get rid of both of them that way, rather than ending up bogged down in a war yourself.

00:39:57.000 So what Gates says then, Brzezinski tells the Iranians, look, we're going to give you all the weapons you want.

00:40:02.000 And they say, fine, give us the Shah.

00:40:05.000 And Brzezinski gets all huffy and says, no, we can't give you the Shah, because that would have been a tremendous political suicide for Carter.

00:40:11.000 So, out of this meeting, then, comes the idea of doing what?

00:40:15.000 Let's get some hostages taken. 0.88

00:40:17.000 This is not the part that Gates will tell you.

00:40:19.000 Gates will not admit to this part.

00:40:21.000 But the whole business with the hostages in Iran was to say, we want the Comaniacs to take the U.S. 0.96

00:40:27.000 Embassy personnel as hostages, because with that, the whole U.S.

00:40:31.000 bureaucracy has an excuse, a cover story.

00:40:34.000 If anybody says, why are you shipping weapons to Iran?

00:40:37.000 They can say, we're doing it to save the lives of these poor hostages.

00:40:40.000 And we know they did give them the armaments.

00:40:42.000 And they did.

00:40:43.000 And that's Iran-Contra.

00:40:45.000 Now, so the hostages... Hold on, we've got to break again.

00:40:47.000 We're going to come back and have plenty of time on the long segment and then let's get into what happened in Mubai.

00:40:52.000 Different place, same story.

00:40:54.000 Same story, same method.

00:40:55.000 All over again.

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00:40:57.000 We'll be right back.

00:40:58.000 We'll be right back.

00:41:15.000 Let's talk about another subject right now, and then we'll come back and finish up there, Webster.

00:41:21.000 We have a big show today.

00:41:21.000 I would have you in there for three or four hours.

00:41:23.000 It's just great to have you down here.

00:41:24.000 I've got Paris coming up, a big rap star who's fighting the New World Order, and then we have a guest about all the GMO food and what's happening with that coming up as well.

00:41:35.000 Just talking about betrayal itself, just briefly in the two minutes we're going to have left here, I see the Obama minions holding because they can't admit they've been conned, they can't admit this euphoria is false, they've been taken.

00:41:49.000 Kind of like conservatives couldn't admit as Bush tripled the size of government and did all these anti-American things and he wasn't really a conservative, you know, in the George Washington vein.

00:42:01.000 How do you see this unfolding?

00:42:03.000 Because I lay the facts out to Democrats on the street, and I say, but he's doing everything Bush did and more, and now he'll get a new lease on life for this whole agenda.

00:42:11.000 And they just go, I don't care, you're just being negative.

00:42:13.000 So I'm literally seeing cult-like behavior.

00:42:16.000 Yeah, cult-like.

00:42:18.000 I think the operative concept is the Night of the Long Knives, and the Night of the Long Knives was something like June 30th, 1934, so after about 14-15 months of Hitler in power, he says, I don't need these gutter snipes, I don't need these goons, thugs, hooligans, fervently idealistic students. 0.86

00:42:36.000 Plus, they're in revolution mode, so they know they'll And they want to go on, and they want to make themselves the head of the army, and they're similar to now.

00:42:43.000 They want to take over the Pentagon, take over the corporations. 0.84

00:42:45.000 And just like today, it was a predominantly homosexual cult. 0.99

00:42:48.000 So that was embarrassing. 0.98

00:42:50.000 There's that.

00:42:50.000 And there are a lot of morphine addicts and drug addicts running around, too.

00:42:53.000 Some of these are the same people.

00:42:55.000 And now, with Mussolini, it's done sort of on the installment plan.

00:42:59.000 I would look to Obama to follow the Mussolini model rather than the National Socialist model.

00:43:02.000 So the safer, slower model.

00:43:04.000 But now, this is what Biden has already told us.

00:43:06.000 Biden has told us that by 12 months into the new regime, its standing in the polls will be abysmal.

00:43:13.000 In other words, they'll be down to Truman levels. 0.67

00:43:15.000 22, 23, 24 percent.

00:43:16.000 After one year of Obama, You're going to find that some of these flakes are going to flake off.

00:43:24.000 In other words, the left-liberal Kool-Aid drinking community is going to be fragmented.

00:43:31.000 And to some extent, you can already see, even on the Daily Kos, in places like this, there were people who were not happy with Rahm Emanuel, not happy with Gates.

00:43:41.000 My God, Hillary they don't like, Volcker! 1.00

00:43:45.000 I mean, Volker is in some ways the most amazing, because everybody knows what Volker did.

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00:43:54.000 Okay, well let's come back then, and then get back into Gates, but then before you leave, let's talk about how they're planning to go after the left, when the left actually finds out that this means more wars, domestic security forces, police state, corporate looting, Volker, all of this.

00:44:09.000 Here we go.

00:44:10.000 They'll try to pull some of this stuff into positions.

00:44:12.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

00:44:18.000 Okay Webster, let's get right back into how the Islamofascists, as the neocons like to call them, were actually put into power by Zbigniew Brzezinski and, of course, Secretary of Defense Gates at the time, who was the man

00:44:33.000 Handling Iran-Contra, and this is a historical fact, and you bring this up to conservatives, and I mean, I had a Special Forces guy, Black Ops guy, who's now a lawyer, you know, with the Terrorism Center, and he's saying we've got to have basically World War III, because the Iranians are going to nuke us and kill us, and oh my God, the Islamofascists, when it's a fact that there were already, you know, these extremist Muslims, and they were energized by the West, so continue. 0.86

00:44:59.000 So the basic idea is that Brzezinski, Gates, and Carter, and Cyrus Vance, trilaterals all, overthrew the Shah.

00:45:09.000 Not only did they overthrow the Shah, but they insisted on bringing in Khomeini.

00:45:13.000 Not a general's coup, not this guy Bakhtiar who was around, but it had to be Khomeini, because Islamic fundamentalism was the great bulwark against Soviet communism. 0.66

00:45:22.000 So, after this April 1978 meeting in Algiers with Brzezinski and Yazdi, There was agreement that the U.S.

00:45:29.000 is going to continue to deliver weapons, and then there's a side agreement between Brzezinski and Yazdi that nobody talks about, I believe, in which they say, all right, we're going to have a taking of hostages. 0.67

00:45:39.000 And there's a lot of stuff, and I go through it, and I got a part on the Carter administration in this book.

00:45:45.000 Now, the October surprise was then the freeing of the hostages, right?

00:45:49.000 And the trick was to try to make sure that the hostages were not freed under Carter before November 1980, because that would have gotten Carter re-elected, or might have... And then as soon as Reagan's elected, they release him.

00:45:59.000 Right.

00:46:01.000 There were then hearings.

00:46:02.000 This guy, Gary Sick, you may remember him.

00:46:04.000 Gary Sick from the State Department or wherever he was.

00:46:07.000 He promoted these hearings about the October Surprise.

00:46:10.000 And back in my book, George Bush, The Unauthorized Biography, 1992, I read about the fact that there were lots of reports that George Bush, the elder, personally flew to Paris one night in a private jet to meet with some Iranians and then come back.

00:46:23.000 We know that Kissinger was reported to be negotiating with Iranians and others.

00:46:29.000 Uh, you know, Dick, uh, whatever his name was, the guy in the, the other guy in the, in the Reagan National Security Council.

00:46:35.000 Um, the thing that Barbara Honiger has written about.

00:46:37.000 But now, when, when those hearings started, the Soviet government, Moscow, sent a whole, uh, bunch of, of information to the Senate, uh, committee, actually the House committee with Lee Hamilton, our dear friend Lee Hamilton, who's such a good investigator, that is, we know from 9-11.

00:46:54.000 And it said, look, here's all the information about Robert Gates up to his neck.

00:46:59.000 In Iran-Contra, or what was then going to be called Iran-Contra, and above all, the October Surprise. 0.98

00:47:06.000 So this guy is dirty.

00:47:07.000 Now, the other dimension on him is, as he writes in his own memoirs, and this I read about in 9-11 Synthetic Terror Made in USA, Gates wrote his memoirs and he said, we considered creating an Arab legion of fighters from all the Arab countries to go into Afghanistan, which is not Arab but Muslim, and fight the Soviets, but we decided not to do it. 0.96

00:47:30.000 Yeah, bunk!

00:47:31.000 You did decide to do it and it's called Al-Qaeda.

00:47:34.000 So Robert Gates is fighting his own illegitimate child, we might say.

00:47:40.000 Robert Gates at the Pentagon is directing the worldwide struggle against al-Qaeda, which he founded.

00:47:46.000 And when he was named back in 2006, I put out a short release about this saying, this guy should not be the head of the Pentagon because he's the founder of al-Qaeda. 0.89

00:47:57.000 They're not fighting Al-Qaeda.

00:47:59.000 As we know, five years ago I reported, and Sy Hersh three and a half years ago, and then last year the White House at WhiteHouse.gov puts out a press release saying, we are funding pro-democracy forces.

00:48:11.000 Here are the four groups.

00:48:13.000 uh... in eastern iraq into uh... iran and they are these wahhabist groups and there was one little kurd group tacked on and then it turned out that the guy commanding the largest group was the number three listed by the fbi number three in al-qaeda and they're staging terror attacks all over iran and and iran is now suing the united states for blowing up mass schools uh... police stations and then bush remember last year with muhammad karzai on the wall and the rose garden said

00:48:42.000 We need to go into Iran, because Iran is funding Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, and Karzai, even though he's this puppet, unicoil, narcotics trafficker, he says, excuse me Mr. President, this was on TV overseas, this was like saying that Spider-Man really lives, or that Santa Claus is real. 0.71

00:48:59.000 He said, Iran is Shiite, and they're actually helping us fight the Wahhabis, which are Sunni, and we're friends with Iran. 0.96

00:49:09.000 And Bush said, no, that's not true.

00:49:11.000 Iran is Al-Qaeda. 0.98

00:49:12.000 And we saw many other people say this.

00:49:14.000 So, of course, Bush knows that's not the case. 1.00

00:49:16.000 They're talking to the public like they're complete morons. 1.00

00:49:19.000 And so Al-Qaeda, clearly, is just this catch-all for Muslim groups they don't control. 1.00

00:49:24.000 But then when they have real terror attacks at stage, let's now get into Mumbai.

00:49:28.000 Well, we know Obama, first of all, is the greatest Paki basher of all time. 1.00

00:49:35.000 In other words, Obama is the guy who ran for president saying, I'm going to bomb the hell out of Pakistan. 0.88

00:49:40.000 And then magically the crisis appears.

00:49:41.000 And the crisis appears.

00:49:42.000 Now, let me stress again, I do not believe there's going to be an attack on Iran.

00:49:46.000 No.

00:49:46.000 Because, not that I can see.

00:49:48.000 I'll be very surprised, okay?

00:49:50.000 But Israel says they may go in.

00:49:52.000 I think this is a lot of bluster, and there's a negotiation going on.

00:49:56.000 But is Iran still part of this, or are they broken off from the neocons?

00:50:02.000 It's not the neocons again.

00:50:03.000 I know it's the Brzezinskis.

00:50:05.000 I know it's the liberals.

00:50:05.000 Brzezinski is the guy.

00:50:08.000 The difference is that... It's the Harvard Ph.D., but I'm not... The Harvard Boutique.

00:50:11.000 Yeah, it's that office.

00:50:12.000 But what I'm saying is, I'm saying, did they break off during the neocon time? 0.86

00:50:16.000 Did they break off before?

00:50:18.000 There's been a period of bad relations, okay?

00:50:20.000 But, you know, there's mass politics and other things that go into this.

00:50:24.000 But right now, Obama ran on a Brzezinski platform, which is to say, I'm going to bomb and destroy Pakistan, and I'm going to negotiate with Iran. 0.96

00:50:31.000 What are you going to negotiate with Iran?

00:50:33.000 You're going to negotiate the terms by which Iran becomes a cat's paw for the U.S. 0.99

00:50:38.000 in the Caspian Sea against the enemy to the north.

00:50:41.000 And that's, of course, it's still Russia. 0.80

00:50:43.000 Bust up the Baku-Caspian Sea oil thing.

00:50:47.000 Get an Iranian fleet in the Caspian Sea. 0.99

00:50:50.000 An Iranian fleet with nuclear weapons. 0.71

00:50:52.000 If you look at Brzezinski's track record, His track record is delivering.

00:50:57.000 Very advanced military hardware.

00:51:00.000 Why did the West help deliver the components, England, the U.S.

00:51:03.000 to Iran?

00:51:04.000 Yeah, because that was geopolitics then, and it's geopolitics now.

00:51:08.000 This geo-strategic, as he likes to say.

00:51:10.000 Now, if you look at what Brzezinski writes, he goes as far as he can.

00:51:13.000 He says, once we normalize relations between the U.S.

00:51:16.000 and Iran, Iran could resume its usual role of being a positive factor in regional stability.

00:51:22.000 Now, there used to be this thing called CENTO, Remember the Central Treaty Organization?

00:51:26.000 I think it was Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan.

00:51:29.000 It fell apart, really, in the 60s.

00:51:31.000 It fell apart during the Vietnam War.

00:51:34.000 But they'd like to get back to this.

00:51:35.000 The idea would be, play Iran against the Russians.

00:51:38.000 Now, moving to Pakistan, this is a totally different story.

00:51:41.000 The whole business in Afghanistan is now being run for one purpose and one purpose only.

00:51:46.000 Break up Pakistan. 1.00

00:51:48.000 Destroy it. 0.99

00:51:49.000 With Iran, you want to negotiate. 0.98

00:51:51.000 You'd like to have a different government, but for the moment, it's going to be a puppet.

00:51:55.000 Ultimately, they're scheduled to be carved up into six or seven parts as well.

00:51:59.000 But the front burner, let's say, the hot topic is Pakistan.

00:52:04.000 Now, why Pakistan? 0.98

00:52:06.000 Because it's a Chinese ally.

00:52:08.000 It has a border with China.

00:52:10.000 And China needs the pipelines that come through it, and China has said in an Indian-Pakistan conflict, they are now siding, they said two days ago, with Pakistan.

00:52:18.000 Yeah, and this is a long-term thing.

00:52:21.000 Remember the Sino-Soviet split?

00:52:23.000 India went with the Russians, but Pakistan went most decidedly with the Chinese, because they have a common border.

00:52:29.000 If you look at Pakistan, it goes from the Arabian Sea and it joins with China above India.

00:52:35.000 Then you've got Nepal and all that. 0.96

00:52:39.000 The main thing is that there's a common border between Pakistan and China, and there's this port, Gwadar.

00:52:45.000 You've got to get rid of the old map of the Persian Gulf and get a...

00:52:47.000 It's a really big Brzezinski-style map.

00:52:50.000 Gwadar is this deep-water port at the Arabian Sea, so it's southwest Pakistan, not so far from Iran, but above all, the Straits of Hormuz are there.

00:53:01.000 So the idea with the Chinese is, if they could get tankers coming from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, from those tanker terminals, coming out of the Straits of Hormuz, they could build a pipeline that would go up Pakistan.

00:53:15.000 I mean, it's not there yet, but it could be built.

00:53:17.000 Let's stop.

00:53:17.000 That's the only avenue except for Russia, but Russia doesn't have big terminals near there.

00:53:21.000 And it's landlocked, therefore you get away from the Anglo... You also have the Himalayas, so they can't get away from Russia. 1.00

00:53:27.000 Well, you can maybe move around it, but the main thing is the Anglo-American fleets, the Anglo-American naval domination of the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea.

00:53:34.000 You want to work around that.

00:53:35.000 And if you're China and you make Pakistan into your energy corridor, you can do two things. 0.73

00:53:41.000 You can have a pipeline that goes directly from Iran to Pakistan to China.

00:53:46.000 There you have your guaranteed oil supply with no Anglo-American air fleet.

00:53:50.000 And then you can develop the railways, cities, and then have China dominate the region.

00:53:54.000 Now let's stop right there because we're almost out of time Webster.

00:53:56.000 We have a little bit left in this segment and then a five minute segment.

00:53:59.000 Now, how does the Mumbai-Bombay situation play into all of this and what is your analysis of what really happened there?

00:54:07.000 Okay, first of all, basically it's coming in as if on cue, right?

00:54:10.000 It's just when they need it.

00:54:11.000 Remember, there's an Indian-U.S.

00:54:13.000 nuclear accord that was approved in October in the Hurley-Burley and Brouhaha, the presidential campaign.

00:54:19.000 We might have missed the fact that India has now become the spear point of the U.S., the British, and the Israelis in Eurasia.

00:54:25.000 It's what the British used to call a continental dagger.

00:54:28.000 India is a continental dagger. 0.99

00:54:29.000 It's 1.2 billion pieces of cannon fodder from the point of view of the u.s.

00:54:34.000 the british uh... and and the israeli so the idea is to play them against china play them against russia play them against pakistan play them to to bust up any possibility of eurasian coalition yeah coalition so uh...

00:54:48.000 The other side of it is this port of Gwadar.

00:54:50.000 That has become operational this year, and they could begin, they could build a pipeline up there that would go straight into China.

00:54:56.000 It would cut about 25% of the cost and would save them about $12,000.

00:55:00.000 I understand why it's happening, but what, I mean, looking at the attacks.

00:55:03.000 Let's look at who we have.

00:55:04.000 Let's look at the attacks.

00:55:05.000 You basically got five or six indications, right?

00:55:08.000 First thing is, anything happening in the Indian subcontinent, the British are always the prime suspect. 1.00

00:55:12.000 Always look for the old colonial power. 0.98

00:55:15.000 The British were there for 200, 250 years.

00:55:18.000 Anything in India, Pakistan, look to the British. 0.99

00:55:20.000 What do we find?

00:55:22.000 The initial reports were that they were British citizens.

00:55:25.000 They were Pakistani origin.

00:55:27.000 British citizens were some of the killers. 1.00

00:55:29.000 Those were early reports that then somehow disappeared.

00:55:33.000 So what do we got there?

00:55:34.000 Brixton Mosque?

00:55:35.000 Finsbury Mosque, maybe?

00:55:37.000 They have an operation up in Leeds, in Yorkshire.

00:55:39.000 They can recruit Pakistanis. 0.94

00:55:42.000 They get them out of Her Majesty's prisons.

00:55:44.000 They can brainwash them. 0.94

00:55:45.000 They can send them over.

00:55:45.000 That's number one.

00:55:47.000 Secondly, the Israelis. 0.62

00:55:49.000 Israel and India have this tremendously developed special relationship.

00:55:53.000 The Indians are always buying hardware. 1.00

00:55:55.000 Webster, stay there.

00:55:57.000 We've got to break again.

00:55:58.000 This is so important.

00:55:59.000 You know, I may have you just come back at the end of the show today because you've got to do an interview in here.

00:56:05.000 Stay with us.

00:56:06.000 In fact, let's flesh this out right now.

00:56:10.000 I'm going to go back into the ad here in a minute.

00:56:13.000 What you can do is you can go tape your program, and then instead of running you over to the other studio to do the interview after, I'll just have you leave with myself at 3.

00:56:21.000 So I will cut Jeffrey Smith back 30 minutes, and so at 2.30, when you've concluded your taping, I will bring you back in here for the end 30 minutes, because this is too important to just end.

00:56:32.000 Oh, we're already out of time.

00:56:33.000 How fast did we go?

00:56:34.000 We've got five minutes left, we'll come back.

00:56:36.000 So we're going to be back in three minutes and we'll finish.

00:56:38.000 I can go on for, I mean, I've got a whole spiel about Mumbai.

00:56:41.000 We'll plug, you're coming back.

00:56:42.000 Then we're live at PrisonPlanet.tv, folks.

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01:00:03.000 well I'm not the kind to You know, we've got Jeffrey R. Smith joining us for an hour and a half after Paris joins us for about 45 minutes coming up in the next segment.

01:00:22.000 So I'm going to bring Tarpley back at the last 30 minutes of the show because he's already going to be here recording with Genesis in another room, his Sunday show.

01:00:30.000 And Webster, tell folks when that is on here on the GCN Network.

01:00:34.000 This is radio and it's available of course on demand like all the shows are, but for me it's a whole week.

01:00:40.000 It's a weekly show.

01:00:41.000 I tape it on Friday afternoon and it comes on Saturday afternoon, two o'clock Eastern, so one o'clock Central.

01:00:48.000 Alright, good.

01:00:49.000 Folks can hear that.

01:00:50.000 On demand.

01:00:50.000 Okay, a little bit of time we have left.

01:00:51.000 We're going to bring you back in on the Mumbai attacks because it's so important.

01:00:55.000 They say they're going into Pakistan, they say there's going to be a crisis there, and then on cue it starts.

01:01:00.000 And you were talking about the Israeli situation, and this could be a reverse false flag, it could be a set-up, but they were wearing the large Hindu sect Zionist wristbands. 0.50

01:01:11.000 They had LSD, cocaine, classic mind control.

01:01:15.000 You have the intelligence chief who had just caught them months ago, the Indians, he busted a... Haqqari. 1.00

01:01:21.000 Yes, yes.

01:01:22.000 They killed him.

01:01:22.000 Yes.

01:01:23.000 Well, let's get into that, because the evidence, there's hundreds of pieces.

01:01:27.000 Only terrorism chiefs that have exposed the Indian government were staging terror attacks, and they all die within minutes.

01:01:33.000 Right.

01:01:33.000 So, basically, the British, we've done.

01:01:36.000 The Israelis, General Mizrahi, the head of the Israeli Armed Forces, Ground Forces, goes to the disputed area of Kashmir.

01:01:44.000 That's a bigger front to the Muslim Pakistani side of it, right?

01:01:47.000 The whole Kashmir issue is something that we should go through.

01:01:51.000 It's basically India is occupying Islamic populations. 0.99

01:01:54.000 The UN resolutions on Kashmir is that they're supposed to be free elections.

01:01:58.000 Who's blocking the free elections is India, not Pakistan.

01:02:03.000 The Israelis are very big. 1.00

01:02:04.000 You could also say, look at the ineptitude, look at the stupidity of the Indian Special Forces. 1.00

01:02:10.000 They were trained by the Israelis, and now they're screwing it all up. 1.00

01:02:14.000 That went on for 65 hours!

01:02:15.000 They stand down and don't shoot, and then five of the terrorism chiefs and deputies who'd all criticized the government, they are the ones that only magically get triple-tapped apiece.

01:02:27.000 Impossible.

01:02:28.000 But now, concerning the U.S., let's not forget the U.S., in these so-called federally administered tribal areas, in other words, the northwest frontier, the northwest area of Pakistan that's along the Afghan border, The CIA, in addition to flying these predator drones, they also have stations.

01:02:48.000 I mean, they have strong points, right?

01:02:51.000 They have centers of operations among the federally administered tribal areas, and we can assume that they're busily recruiting patsies, fanatics, crazies, mercenaries, hooligans, whatever.

01:03:03.000 To also become terrorists.

01:03:05.000 One of the things the Pakistanis ought to do is to kick the CIA out of those federally administered tribal areas. 0.97

01:03:11.000 Not let them in there anymore.

01:03:13.000 Okay, in a few minutes we've got left.

01:03:14.000 Two more.

01:03:15.000 The Hindus.

01:03:16.000 The Hindus.

01:03:16.000 The RSS.

01:03:17.000 Okay?

01:03:18.000 There's this thing. 0.97

01:03:19.000 The RSS is a Hindu extremist racist organization with strong fascist overtones. 0.98

01:03:26.000 They killed Gandhi. 0.99

01:03:27.000 Yeah, in effect.

01:03:28.000 They have been... they're the descendants of the killers of Gandhi, exactly. 0.87

01:03:32.000 Because he wouldn't kill Muslims.

01:03:34.000 Right, because he was not in favor of religious war.

01:03:36.000 So here we have the religious war party, and sure enough, the US and the British are backing them. 0.89

01:03:40.000 And they're the ones tied in with Israel.

01:03:41.000 That would be, as far as I can see, the ones with this blue... sorry, pink armband that the one guy was wearing.

01:03:48.000 But see, the RSS has been killing people all over India for years and years.

01:03:52.000 You never hear about that.

01:03:53.000 And it's RSS infiltrators that keep doing false flags to warn the Muslims.

01:03:56.000 Look, you have a terrorist swamp, then you have the RSS provides the ideology for that, then you have the BJP, which is the governing party, and they are now bidding fair to take over the government again in the backlash to what has just gone on.

01:04:07.000 And they give the conduit, or the tunnel, for the people to be brought in... 0.71

01:04:11.000 But putting an NCAP on this, because it's about them, we're going to come back.

01:04:14.000 NCAP is the RAW.

01:04:15.000 R-A-W. 1.00

01:04:16.000 You heard about the ISI, right?

01:04:17.000 Everybody knows the ISI.

01:04:18.000 How about the RAW?

01:04:19.000 The Research and Analysis Wing.

01:04:23.000 The Research and Analysis Wing of Indian Intelligence.

01:04:28.000 the Research and Analysis Wing of Indian Intelligence.

01:04:30.000 They are up in Afghanistan, recruiting crazies from Afghanistan to bring them down and have them engage in terrorism against Pakistan. 0.93

01:04:41.000 So the Indians have a real dirty aspect. 1.00

01:04:43.000 Maybe the Israelis have a... Well, it's these same groups setting off bombings the last few months trying to overthrow the Pakistani government. 0.88

01:04:49.000 Right.

01:04:49.000 And they're admittedly Western-backed.

01:04:52.000 And the Pakistani government has been saying the West is staging this.

01:04:56.000 That was the final point to bring pressure in on Pakistan or even overthrow them so when you come back in a few hours we will break down that but in the last minute we have to talk about that. 0.84

01:05:07.000 What is the point of all this?

01:05:08.000 The point of it is to play India against Pakistan. 0.56

01:05:11.000 Bring in a radical government.

01:05:12.000 Bring in a radical war government to India. 0.88

01:05:15.000 And if you play India against Pakistan, you destroy both. 0.98

01:05:18.000 In other words, the Indian military would inflict grievous damage on Pakistan. 0.80

01:05:22.000 But, India is a country with 1 billion Hindus, but there are 200 million Muslims.

01:05:27.000 That'll cause tribal warfare around the world.

01:05:30.000 So it's just like Iran-Iraq being played off against each other, both sides being funded by the U.S.

01:05:34.000 It's much bigger.

01:05:35.000 It's huge.

01:05:36.000 It's not 60 million and 20 million.

01:05:38.000 It's not 60 million and 20 million.

01:05:39.000 And nuclear weapons on both sides.

01:05:41.000 It's hundreds of millions against a billion plus.

01:05:43.000 And nukes on both sides, which in the case of the Middle East, you absolutely can't have. 0.80

01:05:46.000 And then that's the Brookings Institution and others coming out and ran a few months ago saying we need a world war, something on that scale.

01:05:52.000 Okay, Webster, thank you.

01:05:53.000 We'll talk to you in a few hours back in studio.

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01:06:15.000 And nukes on both sides, which in the case of the Middle East... And then that's the Brookings Institution and others coming out and ran a few months ago saying we need a world war, something on that scale.

01:06:25.000 Okay, Webster, thank you.

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01:10:30.000 This plan to cower isn't ours.

01:10:33.000 This man is proud.

01:10:34.000 Keep the scandals out.

01:10:35.000 Now, if it ain't what we about, it's irrelevant.

01:10:37.000 U.S. policy route, embarrassing.

01:10:39.000 Never leaving you without.

01:10:41.000 We got medicine, and we never been.

01:10:43.000 We got better sense. 0.85

01:10:44.000 Hard move, revolutionary, black militant. 1.00

01:10:46.000 Death to the Minutemen. 1.00

01:10:47.000 Checks to the immigrants. 1.00

01:10:48.000 Streets still feeling it. 1.00

01:10:49.000 We still killing it.

01:10:51.000 We still slaughtering.

01:10:51.000 and hawks feed the innocent, read the imprint.

01:10:54.000 Gorilla Funk was birthed out of necessity, collectively, respectably, to behead the beast.

01:10:59.000 Okay, that is the new single, Don't Stop the Movement.

01:11:04.000 And Paris, quite a bio.

01:11:08.000 You can check out his website.

01:11:10.000 We've got a link to it up on Infowars.com.

01:11:13.000 This is from GorillaFunk.com, his official bio.

01:11:18.000 Paris hails from the San Francisco Bay Area and was catapulted onto the national hip-hop scene in 1990 with his hit single on the album, The Devil Made Me Do It, after earning a degree in economics from the University of California at Davis, originally released on Tommy Boy Records.

01:11:31.000 His first single from the album, Break the Grip of Shame, was banned by MTV.

01:11:36.000 And it goes on from there.

01:11:38.000 He's worked with some of the biggest and most successful hip-hop groups out there.

01:11:44.000 Sonic Jihad was released with strong sales and critical acclaim.

01:11:48.000 Again in 2003, he returned with a vengeance.

01:11:50.000 It goes on and on.

01:11:51.000 I tried to read this whole bio.

01:11:53.000 It would take quite a long time.

01:11:55.000 But Paris, it's great to have you back.

01:11:56.000 For some of my listeners who may not know who you are, why don't you tell folks a little bit about yourself.

01:12:01.000 You're also, of course, a 9-11 truther.

01:12:04.000 Way back in 2002, you went public, or maybe even earlier.

01:12:07.000 I saw some posts by you day one dealing with that.

01:12:10.000 So you've definitely got a lot of courage, and I enjoy your music.

01:12:13.000 So thanks for joining us again.

01:12:15.000 Thanks for having me again, Alex Jones.

01:12:16.000 How are you doing, man?

01:12:18.000 Oh, busy.

01:12:19.000 Super busy.

01:12:19.000 I bet you're busy as well.

01:12:20.000 Yeah, I am.

01:12:21.000 I've got to congratulate you on the birth of your child.

01:12:23.000 I know that I haven't spoken with you since.

01:12:25.000 So, good to talk to you.

01:12:27.000 Hey, it's great to talk to you.

01:12:29.000 But for those that don't know who you are, I mean, Breakdown, you sold three, four million albums, worked on a lot of other huge albums.

01:12:36.000 Yeah.

01:12:37.000 I've basically been making counter-establishment hip-hop.

01:12:41.000 That, you know, challenges the system.

01:12:43.000 It's life-affirming music that I've been making for the entirety of my career.

01:12:48.000 I started in 1990 and have been on a lot of different labels and am now completely independent.

01:12:58.000 And, well, completely independent, but distributed by Universal, ironically enough, because they have noticed the fact that there are people out here who hunger for this kind of material.

01:13:12.000 I mean, I've produced Public Enemy and Dead Prez and The Coup and a lot of other groups that are out there that represent these same sentiments, and I'm still doing it.

01:13:28.000 Let's go back to 2001, and then look at what happened there, and your views and take on that, and then let's accelerate forward to what's happening today geopolitically, what's happening in different sectors of the world, and your take on somebody like Barack H. Obama.

01:13:47.000 Well, in 2001, my current company and my last record, which was Sonic Jihad, which I guess got on your radar a while ago, It occurred as a result of our response to 9-11.

01:14:01.000 And, you know, after doing a lot of independent research and actually viewing some of your films and soaking up a lot of the information that was available online, I came to the conclusion, as have you and most of the people listening to you, that 9-11 was a self-inflicted wound, as you like to put it.

01:14:19.000 And seeing the response, seeing the erosion of our civil liberties, seeing the shredding of the Bill of Rights, The increase in intolerance, seeing the increase in racism and racist wars around the world led me to want to become more involved in making protest statements and to endorsing material that reflects that viewpoint.

01:14:43.000 And so, Guerrilla Funk was formed and my first record, Sonic Jihad, came out.

01:14:52.000 It was pretty much assailed by a lot of the mainstream press outlets, MSNBC, Fox News, the whole thing.

01:14:59.000 And it was embraced by people who recognized truth.

01:15:02.000 And it did well enough to get on Universal's radar to allow me to be able to sign other artists to kind of rally.

01:15:12.000 The people around that, you know, felt the same, who were also disenfranchised and unavailable, you know, unable to come out through traditional outlets.

01:15:24.000 And, you know, I've seen the whole thing kind of, you know, in some respects things have gotten worse, in some respects things have gotten

01:15:35.000 Well, before we get into what's happening currently, just finishing up along the lines of the music you put out, I have to say, I like some hip-hop, I like some rap, I grew up listening to a lot of it in Dallas, but even then I only liked certain people and others that sounded terrible, but it's the same with every genre, classical, country, rock and roll, but particularly, I don't know,

01:16:00.000 of really anybody else who when I listen to the music it sounds a hundred percent my mind like I can't imagine it sounding any better with the beat your voice you know bringing in the choir like you do with what would you do I mean, just all of it.

01:16:17.000 So, I mean, I am really a fan just of your sound.

01:16:21.000 And then, why it's 100%, then the message, especially in some of those songs you did in that album after 9-11.

01:16:27.000 I mean, that's why I say I think it's really the anthem for 9-11.

01:16:31.000 I mean, I like Immortal Technique and a lot of other folks, and he's great and has a really great sound as well.

01:16:31.000 Truth.

01:16:36.000 I just don't think that it's consistently as powerful as yours.

01:16:39.000 I mean, hey, I'm not trying to choose sides.

01:16:41.000 I'm just saying you really are... No, no, no, no.

01:16:42.000 I mean, there are really only two real sides to choose.

01:16:48.000 I appreciate that, man.

01:16:54.000 Really, I do.

01:16:55.000 I just always said that I was going to make music that I wouldn't be ashamed of in a few years.

01:16:59.000 That's really kind of my litmus test.

01:17:02.000 When I'm doing things, I want to treat each project as though I'll never get the chance to do it again.

01:17:07.000 Which is, you know, that's pretty legitimate.

01:17:10.000 Well, that's how life really works.

01:17:12.000 That's how life really works.

01:17:13.000 Now, shifting gears, everything is nuanced in the world.

01:17:18.000 Like, I just had Webster Tarpley in here with all the documents.

01:17:21.000 The United States funded the Iranians to come to power, gave them the weapons, that's on record. 0.97

01:17:27.000 Gates and Brzezinski admit it.

01:17:29.000 Now, they're the guys behind Obama, and whereas I want to, I mean, I hate George Bush, called for his arrest, you know, terrorist.

01:17:38.000 People see this two-dimensional, like, well, you're against Bush, you must be for Obama.

01:17:42.000 Or, if I'm against Obama, I must be for McCain.

01:17:44.000 When I'm against McCain, I'm saying, no, they're all bought and paid for, but then I look at who will be able to carry the New World Order agenda further?

01:17:51.000 Who will neutralize the left to stand down and say, Yes to war, yes to a police state, and then who will actually pacify the public so the abuse of black people, minorities, everybody can continue.

01:18:05.000 Nine, ten months ago I said, I like Obama.

01:18:07.000 He says he'll get us out of the war, he won't spy on the American people without warrants, and then now he's gone back.

01:18:12.000 I'm just setting the table here and I don't want you to take a lot of time going over this.

01:18:15.000 And so now, with horror, I'm seeing this.

01:18:17.000 Now, whereas I like seeing people happy and relations being good, and black folks I see everywhere really, I mean, you can see a visual, you know, feeling good, hey, white people aren't all racist, they elected a black guy.

01:18:27.000 Whereas I wish that was a good, beautiful thing, I know that in the end it's going to be a huge betrayal, and it's going to be designed to actually make everybody, in a way, even blame black people, in the end, when Barack Obama is a New World Order frontman.

01:18:40.000 Now if you disagree that's fine, but I mean break down, I mean I've laid that out, it's so nuanced and the public only sees it in shades of black and white, pun intended.

01:18:50.000 Where do you see this going?

01:18:52.000 Just like in Mumbai, the CIA, Mossad, MI6 are publicly funding the radical Hindus, the radical Muslims, bringing them in so that they can get a radical group in control of India to then attack Well, I'm hoping that's not the case.

01:19:08.000 I hope that's not the case.

01:19:08.000 I really do.

01:19:08.000 I do.

01:19:09.000 The one thing that causes me to have great pause about Obama is the fact that the establishment immediately embraced him when he came out.

01:19:19.000 That's the one thing.

01:19:21.000 I really do.

01:19:21.000 I do.

01:19:22.000 I hope that's not the case.

01:19:23.000 The one thing that causes me to have great pause about Obama is the fact that the establishment immediately embraced him when he came out.

01:19:30.000 That's the one thing that, you know, so this whole idea of him being an agent of change and some kind of a freedom fighter for social justice is pretty much scratched off the list for me.

01:19:43.000 and In terms of him being perhaps, you know, a lesser of many evils, that's probably how I look at him at this point.

01:19:51.000 As a black man, of course, it does make me feel good to see me being reflected in a position of power.

01:19:57.000 I'm not going to lie about that.

01:19:59.000 But by the same token, you know, as a somebody that has progressive values, Man, you know, I am disheartened by some of the things that I've seen and some of the things that I've heard him say.

01:20:10.000 A lot of what he said during the campaign I wanted to chalk up to him needing to say to be able to get elected.

01:20:18.000 But now, you know, this whole idea of reaching across the aisle and, you know, I'm somebody who has pretty hard left-leaning positions, man, and I'm actually out for blood.

01:20:28.000 I don't want to reconcile with anybody.

01:20:31.000 You know, I don't want to see Everything swept under the rug and everything be forgiven and us try to kind of forge this new path and this new direction.

01:20:40.000 With people who I am ardently opposed to, I want to see things happen the right way for a change.

01:20:50.000 Whether or not he's going to be the one to do it, we still don't know yet.

01:20:58.000 But I do know that I'm not in a reconciling mood.

01:21:03.000 And I've seen the establishment say that Obama will bring the people back to trusting the government, and then look at who he's appointing.

01:21:13.000 It's all the same people.

01:21:15.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:21:16.000 Now, as far as the people trusting the government, I don't know if that will ever happen again.

01:21:21.000 I think that, first of all, this economy has to turn around, if it is to turn around, before anybody pays attention to what anybody in the government has to say.

01:21:30.000 But that's it Paris, this is a designed, and I want you to speak to this, I have all the documents and I know you're a well-read guy and you've got an economics degree there, but what's happening is the people under Clinton and the Republicans support it, it's all one group, they changed the Glass-Steagall Act, they made the laws where the banks could do this, they have designed this to implode markets

01:21:52.000 so that the establishment can then come in, cut off liquidity to everybody else, have the real economy implode, and the banks overcapitalize in the, quote, bailout with now $8.4 trillion as of December 5, 2008, and then buy up what's left of the real economy.

01:22:05.000 And Obama is the biggest shareleader for that.

01:22:08.000 And when the bailout wasn't about to happen, he got up there and got on his bully pulpit and said, we need this.

01:22:13.000 So that's what I'm saying, Paris.

01:22:15.000 So what are your feelings about this auto bailout then?

01:22:18.000 Well, I mean, I see it as a distraction because $25 billion, $40 billion, compared to $8.4 trillion, according to Bloomberg and AP, in seven weeks, You know, the whole debate about should we bail the autos out, that's a diversion.

01:22:32.000 But I'm against socialism, but if we're going to devalue the currency and turn up the printing presses, I just say give every American $50,000.

01:22:40.000 That's basically what this $8.4 trillion comes out to.

01:22:44.000 I just say give it directly to the people, because we're the ones that are going to have to pay it back in taxes anyway.

01:22:49.000 Hmm.

01:22:50.000 Interesting.

01:22:51.000 Well, I know they just came out with the jobs report today.

01:22:53.000 So, something over half a million jobs lost today.

01:22:57.000 That's almost two million jobs lost since January of this year, so it's definitely rough out there.

01:23:02.000 Exactly.

01:23:03.000 So, I mean, specifically, what I'm saying here is, in studying the world, what I do is I just go to what the truth is.

01:23:03.000 And it's accelerating.

01:23:09.000 And I go to what the real policy reports of the elite say.

01:23:14.000 And then I go diametrically opposed to them.

01:23:18.000 And so my job's easy.

01:23:20.000 True contrarian.

01:23:21.000 There you go.

01:23:21.000 Well, let's bring the woman.

01:23:22.000 I'm just against their agenda because I know their agenda's bad for humanity.

01:23:25.000 Here's another one.

01:23:26.000 I'm not against the tens of millions of people by Chase Manhattan City Bank displaced in Mexico, driven off their ancestral lands through phony environmental movements using the left to force them into Mexico City, then into the United States.

01:23:38.000 I don't blame them wanting a better life.

01:23:40.000 I am against them being abused.

01:23:42.000 I've gone out and protested out at the FEMA camp north of Austin where they keep them without due process.

01:23:46.000 But at the same time, I understand the globalist plan is to dissolve borders, to drive down wages.

01:23:52.000 So Paris, shouldn't I be totally against something that is the cornerstone of the big banks against the United States?

01:24:00.000 See how that's nuanced?

01:24:02.000 Which would be what?

01:24:04.000 Well, all I'm saying... Immigration? 0.98

01:24:07.000 Yes, I mean, I know you bring that up, and that you're certainly against the oppression of these people, but at the same time, I'm going to the next level, and I know you can grasp all this.

01:24:15.000 You're probably smarter than I am.

01:24:17.000 I've been more successful in business than I am, so I'm asking you the question.

01:24:20.000 If the New World Order wants open borders, And then actually wants to stir Americans up with third world populations they bring in to divide and conquer. 0.99

01:24:29.000 What should I do?

01:24:30.000 Should I go along with what the big foundations and the money wants?

01:24:33.000 To divide and conquer?

01:24:34.000 I just know that it's easy to scapegoat a population.

01:24:36.000 And I know that this plays directly into the hands of America's racist legacy.

01:24:41.000 I agree.

01:24:41.000 You know, so just in terms of looking at a particular group of people and, you know, kind of galvanizing this Joda Plummer public against them, I'm opposed to that.

01:24:54.000 Now, in terms of what the end result is going to be, like this dissolution of borders and all that, I don't know if I even look into it that far.

01:25:01.000 I understand.

01:25:03.000 You know, from where I'm sitting, I see a group of people who want a better life, who are pretty much the end result of America's foreign policy.

01:25:19.000 economically depriving people.

01:25:21.000 And, you know, so when you see people who want to come here to kind of, from what they think anyway, because first of all, I don't necessarily know that America gives you a better life.

01:25:31.000 Let me say that out the gate, because I've traveled a bunch of other places where things seem to be a lot easier on a lot more people.

01:25:36.000 And they're not, at least right now, they're not in any kind of danger of being invaded by America.

01:25:45.000 All right, let me throw this in.

01:25:47.000 I don't know.

01:25:47.000 Paris, Paris, let me throw this in at you.

01:25:49.000 Yeah.

01:25:49.000 Talk about nuance.

01:25:50.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:25:51.000 As you know, everything is five or six.

01:25:53.000 I don't think that anything occurs on the global stage by chance.

01:25:56.000 Well, this is what I'm saying.

01:25:57.000 That's what you're saying.

01:25:58.000 Exactly.

01:25:58.000 But I want your take on this.

01:25:59.000 I want your take on this.

01:26:00.000 And we'll come back and talk about it after the break.

01:26:02.000 And we're going to plug your new record and the website and the rest of it, which is great stuff.

01:26:05.000 Exactly.

01:26:05.000 They are announcing they're going to put 20,000 U.S.

01:26:08.000 troops on the streets of America.

01:26:10.000 The Army document says it's going to be against the American people for civil insurrection, but then they put out public press releases that it's going to be stopping the illegal aliens on the border, but I know Because they already did that two years ago, that that stage, and they're not even going to do that.

01:26:25.000 So you're right.

01:26:26.000 It's nuanced.

01:26:27.000 They are using it as a stereotype catch-all false galvanization to get people to rally around accepting a police state.

01:26:35.000 I guess so.

01:26:36.000 So where are you at thinking that there's going to be some kind of a national event that really brings this immigration debate to the surface?

01:26:44.000 Because honestly, that's kind of been squashed lately.

01:26:48.000 I haven't heard that a lot.

01:26:49.000 I know that people become more intolerant as economic times get harder.

01:26:54.000 Well, listen, we'll get your take on this when we get back.

01:26:54.000 I do know that.

01:26:58.000 I may not have fully made my point.

01:27:00.000 My point is, yes, they work both sides.

01:27:04.000 We'll be right back.

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01:30:40.000 Huge information.

01:30:41.000 We have the government documents that the federal government did carry out that bombing.

01:30:45.000 Parrish, the point I was trying to make is that, yes, the global architects do all these evil things in the name of America and oppress populations.

01:30:56.000 Then they go in with Ford Foundation money and others, and we have the Carnegie documents and all of it on this, congressional hearings, and then they foment rebellion, and then basically the average white guy taking his two-year-old for a walk down the street gets the blame as the evil New World Order mastermind. and then basically the average white guy taking his two-year-old And just like black guys get blamed for supposedly being murderers because people think O.J. did something.

01:31:20.000 It's this lowest common denominator, and yes, they're going to use the huge social crisis crises of 30 million people in this country, you know, who'll work for almost nothing, you know, because of what was done to Mexico by our own government, by the globalists, they then come in here and the government then uses that, the name of going after them, to actually oppress the entire population. 0.66

01:31:43.000 That was the point I was trying to make.

01:31:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:31:45.000 Well, I got you.

01:31:47.000 In that regard, I got you, man.

01:31:50.000 As a rule of thumb, I take a contrarian stance when it comes to what the government has to say, too.

01:31:58.000 You know, when I'm told something in a particular way, I choose to look at it the other way, too, just based on the history.

01:32:04.000 You know, based on the history of oppression, based on the policies and how they've affected people over time.

01:32:10.000 So, yeah, I know.

01:32:12.000 You know, there's a lot going on.

01:32:13.000 We've got about 30 minutes left with you, and instead of myself sitting here guiding the interview, what do you want to get into now, Paris?

01:32:22.000 I looked to come on your show and have you got the interview.

01:32:24.000 you oh absolutely absolutely i mean i mean what i'm saying is i've got a million questions but is there anything really eating at you right now something you want to you know tell millions of people nothing that you haven't heard over and over and over again you know um i i you know i'm always just just uh i feel good to be in the presence of people who feel the same for change you know

01:32:49.000 Ordinarily, when I do interviews, I come on and there's a pretty strong chance that they'll be adversarial.

01:32:57.000 To know that I can be a part of a community where people do question what the government has to say, where people look at the events that have taken place Uh, on the day of 9-11 and everything that's occurred since 9-11 and can digest that and know exactly what's happening.

01:33:14.000 I mean, it feels good to be a part of that community.

01:33:17.000 Really.

01:33:18.000 Absolutely, and we all are together in our fight for liberty, and speaking of that, we're about to come back and start the next hour as being what I would call a black leader, not just a leader of folks that want freedom, but particularly a black leader.

01:33:34.000 Here's an example. 0.95

01:33:35.000 I see on the New York Daily News that they're grabbing black children, the CPS is, and testing pesticide on them until they die. 0.98

01:33:41.000 And then I ask, why aren't black leaders talking about that? 0.98

01:33:45.000 I don't think anybody knows about that.

01:33:47.000 That's my first time hearing of it.

01:33:50.000 So there you go.

01:33:50.000 The problem is that people don't know about it.

01:33:54.000 There's a lot of disinformation out there, but there's also just a lack of information.

01:33:59.000 A lot of people don't know where to turn, and most people do get their news.

01:34:02.000 Most people do get their information wrong, as it often is, from TV.

01:34:09.000 Nobody reads.

01:34:10.000 You know that.

01:34:11.000 I mean, it wouldn't be so easy to pull the wool over America's eyes if people read more.

01:34:16.000 What is it?

01:34:16.000 9% of the American people read one book a year?

01:34:18.000 Is that it?

01:34:21.000 Yeah.

01:34:22.000 Twilight.

01:34:24.000 It's unbelievable.

01:34:25.000 Well, the website is GorillaFunk.com.

01:34:28.000 My website is InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:34:32.000 Check out a lot of great videos and books.

01:34:33.000 Let's talk about some of the films you're producing, Paris, because you're branching out into just all sorts of areas.

01:34:40.000 Let's talk about some of the things you're working on when we get back in 70 seconds.

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01:34:56.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

01:35:03.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

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01:36:01.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:36:04.000 Big Brother.

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01:36:13.000 Government cover-ups.

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01:36:17.000 Well, so does he.

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01:36:31.000 The website, again, is GorillaFunk.com.

01:36:34.000 I don't know, three, four million.

01:36:34.000 He is Paris.

01:36:36.000 How many records?

01:36:37.000 I know it's more all the time.

01:36:38.000 How many records have you gotten out there to the people, Paris?

01:36:42.000 Just about four million, exactly.

01:36:42.000 Four million.

01:36:44.000 So now it's four million.

01:36:45.000 Yeah.

01:36:46.000 Since the last time I had you on the show.

01:36:48.000 You're also branching out into filmmaking and producing films and distributing films.

01:36:53.000 Quite an eclectic group of films, last time I checked.

01:36:58.000 Yes.

01:36:59.000 Yeah, that's the final frontier for me, is to branch out of just doing music alone and start doing films and putting out messages in the visual medium.

01:37:09.000 The first project is called Sounds Like a Revolution, and it'll be out third quarter of next year.

01:37:17.000 And it's really a film about musicians who want to make a difference and kind of details the consequences Uh, that we've all faced, uh, as a result of, of, uh, our beliefs in, you know, this post 9-11 environment where, uh, you know, dissent is stifled and the media outlets that we have come to rely upon self-censor.

01:37:45.000 Um, it features me and, uh, uh, Michael Franti and anti-flag and the Dixie chicks are in it. 0.99

01:37:53.000 Um, Henry Rollins.

01:37:56.000 The coup, I believe, is going to be narrated by Erykah Badu.

01:38:00.000 It's a pretty involved undertaking.

01:38:02.000 Yeah, so that's one of them.

01:38:04.000 Another one is called Nation Building, which is kind of along the same lines, but it's more hip-hop-centric.

01:38:10.000 And there are some other films that are kind of already in stages, various stages of completion.

01:38:17.000 I don't really want to start films from the beginning.

01:38:21.000 I know when you make your films, you pretty much do them from start to end.

01:38:26.000 I'm looking, really, to buy into existing films.

01:38:29.000 No, I understand, and that's great.

01:38:31.000 People kind of haven't, you know, they can't, you know, finish them because of economics.

01:38:39.000 Let's shift gears.

01:38:41.000 Now, should prospective filmmakers run stuff by us?

01:38:43.000 Should they email you at Gorilla Funk?

01:38:45.000 Absolutely.

01:38:46.000 Yep, please do.

01:38:49.000 And you're going to be putting these out?

01:38:49.000 Please do.

01:38:51.000 Go ahead.

01:38:52.000 Well, because ordinarily, you know, people who are making films, most people who are independent filmmakers, you know, have money issues.

01:39:00.000 So if they can send their films in whatever stage of completion that they're in to us, you know, I'll review it and see if we can fit it into what we're doing over here.

01:39:11.000 And of course, the message has to be consistent.

01:39:13.000 And, you know, my film deal is actually with Vivendi through Universal.

01:39:18.000 And the record side is through Fontana Universal.

01:39:22.000 Well, that is exciting.

01:39:24.000 I love it when some Alex Jones films out.

01:39:29.000 I know, we got close to doing that.

01:39:30.000 I had the baby, my wife had the baby the last eight months and I just couldn't give your great offer a proper consideration so I apologize but hopefully in the future we can do something.

01:39:42.000 Now, Parrish, we're about to break and come back in a long segment, so there won't be all these breaks in front of you, but briefly, get into the new single and when a new record's coming out and how folks get that.

01:39:53.000 The new single is called Don't Stop the Movement.

01:39:56.000 The video, believe it or not, just got added to MTV, which was kind of a surprise, because the video is pretty much kind of a very visual interpretation of the people rising up and overthrowing the government.

01:40:14.000 The album is available everywhere online for sure.

01:40:17.000 I have partners with Best Buy and Virgin Music and all the traditional brick and mortar outlets, but in order to ensure that you can find it, it's just best to order it online and you can go anywhere.

01:40:32.000 The other thing that's interesting about this project in particular is that there is a scholarship and housing contest that I'm offering in it, kind of as a golden ticket type of a contest, where there are three chances to win $10,000 towards higher education or housing for anybody that happens to find one of these tickets in the CD.

01:40:52.000 Awesome.

01:40:54.000 Yep.

01:40:54.000 But it's only available in the CD.

01:40:56.000 You can't participate by buying it online.

01:41:00.000 But this isn't your daddy's Willy Wonka.

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01:44:09.000 What would you do if you Knew all the things we knew?

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01:44:49.000 I see a message from the government like every day. 0.99

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01:45:14.000 Don't forget they made us slaves, gave us AIDS and raped us. 0.99

01:45:17.000 Alright folks, we are back live. 0.99

01:45:19.000 That's an oldie but a goodie from seven plus years ago.

01:45:21.000 The Illuminati, triple six, all connected.

01:45:24.000 Stole the boats, stay control, erase and take elections.

01:45:27.000 It's the Skull and Bones Freemason Kill Committee.

01:45:29.000 See the dragon getting shittier in every city.

01:45:32.000 What would you do with you?

01:45:34.000 What would you do with you?

01:45:35.000 All the things we do.

01:45:37.000 All right, folks, we are back live.

01:45:39.000 That's an oldie but a goodie from seven plus years ago.

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01:45:44.000 Jeffrey Smith coming up in about 25 minutes up.

01:45:49.000 Paris continuing our discussion.

01:45:53.000 about activism and media uh... you know universal approaching you getting your stuff out that way more and more alternative powerful anti-establishment information is being allowed out because the old media as you know the establishment is having trouble selling their tired old propaganda their products and it's kind of you can't beat them join them uh... i'm seeing this everywhere were even you know i am accepted it not on big national tv shows but on mainline radio international media

01:46:23.000 Yeah, well, I agree with you.

01:46:24.000 I think that, at least in my experiences, it's amazing.

01:46:26.000 talked about you talked about and others talked about is coming true can you speak to that uh the fact that that this struggle of awakening uh i really see a chance of us turning the corner here yeah well i agree with you i think that um you know at least in at least in in in my experiences it's amazing like i went on hannity and combs and and i was being broadcast from a uh a satellite

01:46:53.000 i guess you know i guess a satellite feed in san francisco because i'm from the bay area out here in california and uh the people that worked at fox knew the music and were warm man and and really embraced the message and they were like man we can't stand working here which was Which was not what I expected at all.

01:47:11.000 I've had CNN and Fox people behind the scenes tell me the same thing.

01:47:14.000 I've had hosts call me at the office after I was on a few times and saying, we got record ratings the last two days you were on, but you are now banned.

01:47:22.000 This wasn't from programming, this was from the business office, from the board, said do not put him back on.

01:47:29.000 So exactly, we've got the people on the inside more than anybody knowing it's all staged.

01:47:33.000 Yeah, and they, you know, and people just appreciate appreciate it when somebody comes out you know like you or me comes out and says what needs to be said and and can can put out material that people can relate to man that reflects their real life existence I think that the the success that I've had is that I've really kind of taken pains to endear myself to the public so that people understand that I really do care you

01:48:02.000 This is not like a fast track to riches doing what we do.

01:48:07.000 You've got incredible talent and had plenty of chances to sell out.

01:48:10.000 I'm not saying I've got some great talent, but I've been approached many times.

01:48:14.000 This is taking the hard road and sticking with it and remaining consistent.

01:48:21.000 That's just kind of been my focus.

01:48:22.000 Does that make it that much sweeter to be as successful as you are over and over again, taking the road, being self-made, creating your own distribution system, everything you did?

01:48:32.000 Oh, of course.

01:48:33.000 I mean, being able to do what I want to do, kind of when I want to do it, and to work with the people that I want to work with, because I'm at the stage in my career now where I don't want to Do just anything, obviously.

01:48:46.000 I think the lowest point in my career was producing a Tony Braxton record.

01:48:51.000 I don't know if you know who that is or not, but it was like I was going through the motions, man.

01:48:56.000 And the music was like something you would hear in the dentist's office.

01:49:00.000 And to me, music is only really engaging when it moves you emotionally.

01:49:06.000 Well, your music certainly moves me.

01:49:08.000 I see it more as poetry with the music in the background, really.

01:49:11.000 Well, thank you.

01:49:13.000 Speaking of the way the world's changing, you know, I witnessed urban warfare troops and the Marines and Army training to take over our cities, arrest our citizens, confiscate our guns, and that was really the wake-up call for me in 96-97 when I physically saw this, and I'd always heard the stories, but then found out it was true, and now they're announcing, yeah, troops on the streets of America, the governors won't be in charge, The executive branch is above Congress.

01:49:38.000 Congress was threatened seven weeks ago with martial law if they didn't go along with the Banker Takeover Bill.

01:49:45.000 I think one reason people are waking up now is because it is late in the game.

01:49:53.000 The Queen of England just abolished the Parliament in Canada because they were about to throw her people out and said, I am the head of state, and then pulled out her Director General.

01:50:01.000 That's in Reuters, who really is the dictator, and so they're even having to admit now that Commonwealth nations never got out from under the Queen.

01:50:08.000 That's in Reuters today.

01:50:09.000 Hmm.

01:50:11.000 Hmm.

01:50:12.000 Interesting.

01:50:13.000 Can you speak specifically just to the expanding police state?

01:50:16.000 Well, you know that the, for example, the Patriot Act is not going to be repealed.

01:50:23.000 I know that a lot of people thought that that was going to be the case when Obama came into power, and it was going to be like this large cash infusion in the social programs and an immediate pull out of Iraq and that kind of stuff.

01:50:33.000 It's unrealistic to think that that would be the case.

01:50:36.000 They just said troops for three more years are going to be there.

01:50:39.000 Oh, really?

01:50:41.000 Yeah, they just said yesterday three more years of the main force of 160,000 and then a permanent force of 50,000 basically forever.

01:50:52.000 I think the way that we can frame this moving forward is to look at this economic downturn, which is probably the worst in this country's history, it will be, as being the 2008-2009 9-11.

01:51:07.000 Financial 9-11, I agree.

01:51:08.000 There you go.

01:51:09.000 And so when you look at it that way, and you look at, you know, you say a traumatized mind is a susceptible mind.

01:51:15.000 Like, you can mold public perception and have the public be behind whatever you want them to be behind when they're traumatized.

01:51:23.000 You can look at this economic violence being visited on the American people as having the same effect as 9-11.

01:51:31.000 Well, again, I don't even blame Obama. 0.98

01:51:33.000 He is a complete and total puppet. 0.96

01:51:35.000 I'm sorry to tell folks, just like every other president since Kennedy. 0.98

01:51:38.000 But he is going to end up, they're not going to be able to blame all this on Bush, even though he's a puppet as well.

01:51:43.000 That's what I'm saying, Paris, they're going to set him up.

01:51:46.000 The people really believe he's going to bring change and change things.

01:51:49.000 It's like Bill Hicks said, they basically take the president in and show him the Subruder film and then say any questions.

01:51:56.000 And so that's my whole point is I want people to get it out of their heads that there's going to be any change other than the fact that this guy can string a sentence together and Bush couldn't and this guy is eloquent and has a nice smile.

01:52:09.000 So it's not as insulting to have Obama because he is slick and smart compared to Bush up there. 0.59

01:52:14.000 It's kind of insulting to have this monkey up there every day.

01:52:17.000 So with Obama it's going to be a lot better. 0.65

01:52:19.000 But that's it in packaging. 0.83

01:52:21.000 I mean, I guess they're going to kind of dress themselves up when they rape us instead of, you know, doing it with just no clothes on.

01:52:26.000 Yeah, well, we're both pessimists.

01:52:28.000 So, you know, I can't even say that I'm cautiously optimistic anymore.

01:52:32.000 I'm just a pessimist about the whole thing.

01:52:33.000 And, you know, hopefully I'll be proven wrong, but chances are I won't be.

01:52:38.000 And we'll both still be doing this a few years from now.

01:52:42.000 You know, when I can do party music and you can make comedies, then we'll all be cool.

01:52:49.000 Actually, I would love to make weird documentaries about subcultures and things.

01:52:57.000 I'd love to make things about nature.

01:52:59.000 I'd love to make documentaries about whales.

01:53:00.000 I like whales.

01:53:03.000 Who's in there running the shows looking at me weird?

01:53:05.000 Did you know that there's a whale called the bowhead whale that lives to about 250 years?

01:53:11.000 I'm looking at my guy and they're looking at me like I'm a weirdo.

01:53:16.000 That's not weird, man.

01:53:17.000 I hate to say this because it's hella cliche, but you think outside the box.

01:53:21.000 I do too, man.

01:53:23.000 There's very little in mainstream media that speaks to me.

01:53:27.000 And that's why I stay in my lane doing what I do.

01:53:30.000 Well, I mean the point I was making is that I have all these other thoughts and all these other dreams.

01:53:33.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying, but you feel like that, you know, you don't want to waste time with any of that when there are more urgent things to discuss.

01:53:39.000 Exactly, that's the point, is actually I'm sick of this, but the fire in my belly just drives me to do it because I have no future if I don't.

01:53:46.000 My family has no future, and so I'm kind of mad like my life's been stolen in a way.

01:53:51.000 Well, yeah, and that happens once you become enlightened.

01:53:55.000 That's the truth.

01:53:56.000 It's difficult to sit by and just, you know, take what's spoon-fed to you when you know better.

01:54:02.000 Exactly.

01:54:03.000 I mean, that's the point that I've been making for quite a while now.

01:54:05.000 When you know better, man, none of this is acceptable.

01:54:08.000 Well, that's it.

01:54:09.000 I mean, I would love to take three vacations a year and spend more time with my family.

01:54:12.000 Right.

01:54:13.000 And I want to.

01:54:14.000 And I can't disengage because there's always a hundred more stories, a hundred more crimes, a thousand more.

01:54:19.000 It's just, it's driving me nuts.

01:54:21.000 Somebody's got to keep the torch burning.

01:54:24.000 So there it is.

01:54:25.000 You have this network set up, man.

01:54:26.000 Don't waste it.

01:54:27.000 That's how I look at it.

01:54:28.000 I'm now finally in the driver's seat to be able to reach people globally doing what I do in a way that is a little bit more comfortable than it's been in the past because I have this relationship with Universal where they manufacture and they distribute everything.

01:54:41.000 So, you know, I treat it very seriously.

01:54:44.000 And I treat each project as though, you know, as though it's my last.

01:54:48.000 Well, you know, people always look at folks that have been somewhat successful, and it's like, even though we're doing good work, sometimes they get mad at us, and I just say to them, hey, I want to see you do well, get in there, do the decades of hard work, but so many people come into this, the enlightenment movement, or whatever you want to call it, and they want instant success.

01:55:05.000 Does life work that way usually, Parris?

01:55:08.000 Well, I usually got to work for it, like anything else.

01:55:11.000 But I do know this, I do know that, You know, there are a lot of hip-hop artists and musical personalities that I want to work with whose abilities I really respect, but more often than not, what they have to say doesn't jive with what I'm doing.

01:55:28.000 You can't make messages that are degrading to people.

01:55:33.000 And again, let's talk about that in the final segment.

01:55:37.000 It's come out, as you know, in documents and programs that the establishment wants to put out this degrading message, not just in hip-hop or rap, but in rock and roll and everything, and that's been done by design.

01:55:49.000 The CIA has been involved in that, and so that's why you see this degrading, materialistic mindlessness, and that's why it's so refreshing to see what you're doing, Parrish, because it really grabs you in your soul, but also intellectually, and it's going to be Through artists such as yourself, we turn the corner on this.

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01:57:05.000 A day unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

01:57:12.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

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02:01:12.000 Because other patriots before us, myself and many others, warned people, laid the groundwork, hit the barbed wire for everybody else in this fight.

02:01:20.000 I have no idea.

02:01:21.000 And so now the public is very receptive.

02:01:22.000 Paris, you know, going into break, I didn't write a note.

02:01:28.000 What was the point I said I was going to ask you when we came back?

02:01:30.000 It was something really important.

02:01:31.000 I have no idea.

02:01:32.000 I don't either.

02:01:33.000 I don't either.

02:01:34.000 As soon as you leave, it'll pop back in my head.

02:01:37.000 But I had some really important question to ask you.

02:01:39.000 But, hell, it doesn't matter.

02:01:40.000 I'm busy running around behind the scenes lining up a bunch of other stuff.

02:01:43.000 In closing, I mean, there's so much going on out there.

02:01:48.000 Where do you think?

02:01:49.000 Where do you see things going in the future with so many people waking up?

02:01:56.000 You know, who knows?

02:01:58.000 Who knows?

02:01:58.000 Man, I can only hope that it doesn't get violent and bloody and out of control.

02:02:02.000 You know, I know that that's probably an optimistic statement right there.

02:02:06.000 I know that things have to change.

02:02:08.000 You know, I know that all the wealth can't be maintained by such a small portion of the population.

02:02:13.000 I know that.

02:02:14.000 Things can't remain as unequal as they've been.

02:02:17.000 I know that times are harder than they've ever been, and I know that people are going through it, man.

02:02:21.000 And, you know, there are all of these artificial things in place to keep people in line.

02:02:26.000 To keep sheep, like sheep, sheeple in line.

02:02:29.000 You know, kind of lockstep with what the government has going on and what the agenda is.

02:02:34.000 And, you know, people are waking up.

02:02:36.000 The only real way to make them wake up, though, is by doing what we do.

02:02:40.000 By hitting them with information and entertainment sources that provide information that goes against the grain of what they see on TV all day long.

02:02:51.000 Absolutely.

02:02:51.000 I remember what it was.

02:02:52.000 It was, and this is a great segue here at the end, government wanting to push MTV in the past, choosing what it wanted to push.

02:03:00.000 Oh, right.

02:03:01.000 I've talked to so many people in the music industry who say, you know, something that is unpopular but anti-human, anti-liberty, anti-woman-man, the establishment will push that while trying to block things that are socially responsible.

02:03:16.000 But we've seen that happen in hip-hop alone.

02:03:18.000 I mean, if I just take hip-hop, I mean, because that's obviously my genre and that's what I started in.

02:03:23.000 When I first started in the early 90s, the groups were, you know, me and Public Enemy and Boogie Down Productions, X-Klan, and all of these groups that reflected this Afrocentric sensibility that wanted to see the community advance, right?

02:03:36.000 It wasn't an anti-white sensibility.

02:03:38.000 It was something that really wanted to see people do better overall.

02:03:42.000 And those types of messages have been squashed, for the most part.

02:03:48.000 You know, the rise of gangster rap, you know, we see a direct correlation between the messages and the outcomes in our community.

02:03:56.000 Which just prepares the black males to go into the prison system. 1.00

02:04:00.000 Of course. 0.99

02:04:01.000 Exactly.

02:04:02.000 Exactly.

02:04:03.000 You know, that's big business, you know.

02:04:05.000 In the same way that there are college towns, and I don't have to tell you or your listeners this, but in the same way that there are college towns, there are towns where the entire, you know, economy is driven by prison.

02:04:14.000 Well, take Tulia, Texas, where they arrested 56 black people in one month.

02:04:18.000 None of them with drugs with no evidence, because the only business in that town was a prison, and they put the black people in the town in the prison. 0.96

02:04:26.000 And it turned out it was all a set-up.

02:04:27.000 It turned out none of them were using drugs.

02:04:30.000 Yep.

02:04:32.000 But when you see, you know, like, you see the same thing with any corporate enterprise now that's really large.

02:04:38.000 Like, there are certain towns that I've been to, for example, in I have in-laws in North Carolina, and Walmart is the main employer in some of these small cities.

02:04:49.000 You know, Boardsville, Statesville, North Carolina, those kind of spots, you know, where the Walmart is huge, man.

02:04:55.000 You might see a Walmart that's, you know, hundreds of thousands of square feet.

02:04:58.000 And they have Walmart social events and, you know, calendar where basically your entire life is dictated by this corporation.

02:05:06.000 Who has taken over the market with Chinese slave goods? 0.99

02:05:10.000 And, you know, mom and pop, you know, mom and pop enterprise, man, depending on what it is.

02:05:15.000 A hard sell right now.

02:05:17.000 Well, that's why it's important to support alternative music, film, farmers markets, anything alternative, anything that's made by a smaller organization or group is so important.

02:05:27.000 And Paris, I want to have you back sooner than a year.

02:05:30.000 I'm glad that we dropped out of contact.

02:05:33.000 I've been busy, you've been busy.

02:05:34.000 I'm glad that you emailed us about your new album.

02:05:36.000 I'm glad to have you back on.

02:05:38.000 I appreciate it.

02:05:39.000 Thank you.

02:05:39.000 Please visit GorillaFunk.com.

02:05:41.000 The new album is Acid Reflex.

02:05:43.000 It's available in stores now.

02:05:45.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:05:46.000 I appreciate everything, man.

02:05:47.000 As usual.

02:05:48.000 Absolutely.

02:05:49.000 Acid Reflux in storage now.

02:05:51.000 Paris, we will talk to you soon and have you back up soon if you'll do it.

02:05:54.000 That'll work, man.

02:05:54.000 Thank you.

02:05:55.000 Take care.

02:05:56.000 Let me say bye to him unless he's gone.

02:05:59.000 Leave me on air.

02:06:00.000 One second.

02:06:01.000 Is he still there?

02:06:02.000 Go ahead.

02:06:02.000 Hey Paris.

02:06:03.000 Yes.

02:06:03.000 I haven't been able to talk to you.

02:06:05.000 Alex, what's up man?

02:06:05.000 How are you?

02:06:06.000 Hey listen, we're on air still right now.

02:06:07.000 Okay.

02:06:08.000 Just streaming at PrisonPlanet.tv and InfoWars.com.

02:06:11.000 That's why I didn't talk to you during the break.

02:06:12.000 Listen, I'm done, not as busy now.

02:06:17.000 And I'm sorry I didn't work harder with you on that thing when you gave me that offer earlier.

02:06:21.000 Okay.

02:06:21.000 But if you're not too busy, let's talk about it again soon.

02:06:24.000 When's a good time to call you?

02:06:26.000 Man, hit me up anytime.

02:06:27.000 I'm around.

02:06:28.000 I'm literally around, especially with the holidays coming up.

02:06:31.000 I'm really coming to a slowdown at the end of the year.

02:06:35.000 Reach out for me when you're ready.

02:06:36.000 I'm here.

02:06:37.000 Also, my producer's been out this week, so I've been kind of by the seat of my pants.

02:06:42.000 Let me just ask John.

02:06:43.000 Did you get Jeffrey R. Smith, John?

02:06:45.000 He's all set and ready.

02:06:46.000 Okay, good.

02:06:47.000 Just so you know, I didn't put in a good plug.

02:06:49.000 I just plugged the website.

02:06:52.000 I've seen, on screen we've been putting the website and the new album cover.

02:06:57.000 When I come back, I'll plug it after you've left us, Parris.

02:07:00.000 So, I'll just say, Acid Reflux by Parris.

02:07:04.000 It's Reflex.

02:07:04.000 Reflex, Acid Reflex.

02:07:06.000 By Parris, yep.

02:07:08.000 And remember there's a...

02:07:11.000 that college contest.

02:07:14.000 It's all there.

02:07:15.000 Well, you know what?

02:07:16.000 Let's do this.

02:07:17.000 Can you do two more minutes on the other side?

02:07:19.000 Yeah, sure.

02:07:20.000 Okay, let's come back because you kind of got cut off there.

02:07:22.000 The satellites, they fire.

02:07:23.000 And we'll come back to you in about a minute and a half to finish up, then we'll go to my next guest, okay?

02:07:26.000 It's all good.

02:07:27.000 Thank you.

02:07:27.000 Thanks a lot.

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02:09:50.000 Again, great social commentary, very thought-provoking.

02:09:53.000 You may not even agree with it all, but the point is that it's not establishment propaganda milk toast.

02:09:58.000 And he also has a Golden Ticket prize in the new Alba Mountain stores everywhere.

02:10:04.000 You can also hear it online, but the contest is there for scholarships.

02:10:08.000 So I briefly wanted to have Paris finish up telling folks about that.

02:10:12.000 Paris?

02:10:12.000 Yes.

02:10:13.000 What it is, and I appreciate it, Alex, it's three chances to win $10,000 towards higher education or housing.

02:10:22.000 Those are the specific stipulations with the prize.

02:10:26.000 And it's only available in CD form and the physical CD that you can buy at retail.

02:10:31.000 Or through Amazon or Best Buy.

02:10:36.000 Amazon and Best Buy are your best bets, even more so than Gorilla Funk, because we run out of them pretty quickly, I'm sure.

02:10:42.000 I'm sure I'm out of them now, as a matter of fact, as a result of being on your show.

02:10:46.000 But those prizes are transferable, too.

02:10:50.000 That's the other thing.

02:10:51.000 So if you're not interested in going to college, but you know a college-age teen that's thinking about it, then you can give them the gift.

02:10:57.000 But it's three chances to win $10,000, and in this environment, man, everybody I'm sure needs a leg up, you know?

02:11:04.000 By the way, I'm watching the video for the first time.

02:11:06.000 I'm a big fan of it.

02:11:07.000 I've just been so busy, I hadn't seen it yet, of Acid Reflux.

02:11:10.000 We're playing a little clip of it on PrisonPlanet.tv on screen right now, and it looks really good, and this looks like The director, or the animator, of the guy that did the big video for some other folks right before the election in 2006, is this the same director of the Eminem video?

02:11:32.000 No, no, you're thinking about Ian Anaba and Guerrilla News Network.

02:11:36.000 No, this is not them, although I have worked with them in the past, and I narrated that Aftermath 9-11 movie of theirs.

02:11:44.000 No, this is a guy named Corey Shaw.

02:11:47.000 from a company called Bill Destroyer down in L.A.

02:11:49.000 does world-class work.

02:11:51.000 I mean, this video is... Oh, this blows away the Eminem video!

02:11:54.000 I mean, I'm watching this, and it is awesome!

02:11:57.000 And it's painfully expensive.

02:11:58.000 So, everybody go buy a copy of Acid Reflex ASAP.

02:12:05.000 I mean, listen, since some of this came out on air, since you mentioned it, I'm really honored that you offered to put me on the Universal label, and I was just looking at the contracts that were a great deal, best deal I've ever been offered, and I just didn't even, I was trying to finish something, having a new baby, I know it didn't matter, but I wanted to, since I couldn't talk to you behind the scenes, I wanted to apologize for not getting on the ball with that, but I'll work on that, Paris, and I've been honored to talk to you.

02:12:26.000 Everybody get acid reflex, and we'll talk to you soon, my friend.

02:12:29.000 I appreciate it, man.

02:12:30.000 Thank you.

02:12:30.000 I'm honored to be here.

02:12:31.000 All right, there he goes, ladies and gentlemen.

02:12:33.000 Yeah, great guy.

02:12:35.000 Look, I trust Paris, but I'm a little bit scared of Universal.

02:12:37.000 And that's just one of the many offers I've had.

02:12:41.000 And he brought it up earlier, so I went ahead and talked about it.

02:12:44.000 I mean, I probably had 60, 70 offers in the last 10 years.

02:12:50.000 I mean, I have been in the office, in the big listening building in LA, offered a radio show to be as big as Rush Limbaugh, with the contract in front of me.

02:13:00.000 But in that case, I had to be controlled what I said, and I said no.

02:13:02.000 With the Paris thing, whatever I wanted, say whatever I wanted, and I knew it would put it really out there in a big way.

02:13:08.000 And I'd try some other distributions or another outfit who's a lot smaller, and that was alright.

02:13:13.000 It's just that then I can't put them out for free.

02:13:15.000 I can't say make copies.

02:13:17.000 I can't leave it up on Google Video.

02:13:19.000 And so I, you know, turn down tens of millions of dollars.

02:13:22.000 That's just how it works here, folks.

02:13:23.000 And then I get screamed at and yelled at for trying to sell a few thousand copies myself to be able to maybe make a film.

02:13:30.000 And the films do lose money.

02:13:32.000 I pay for stuff with advertising, and I pay for it a few other ways.

02:13:36.000 I got a small inheritance a few years ago, I really want to know.

02:13:39.000 Side issue, but it doesn't burn me, it doesn't get in my craw.

02:13:43.000 I feel sorry for people that have no idea how many deals I've turned down and what I've turned down.

02:13:48.000 You have no idea, folks.

02:13:50.000 I mean, most people say they wouldn't sell out, and I'm not saying that would be that if I did it with Paris.

02:13:55.000 It's just that...

02:13:58.000 I can't, even if something might have some of that involved, or might lead down a road, because to me, the fact that I put out 21 films, the fact that I've made 20 myself, and I've made 19 and produced 2, no, I've made 20 and produced 2, the fact that they reach hundreds of millions online for free, that we can track, that is what I want instead of money.

02:14:26.000 That's what I want.

02:14:28.000 And the death threats and everything that come with it.

02:14:31.000 And that would have all pretty much ended if I did that.

02:14:35.000 So it wasn't selling out that I refused, because whatever I wanted I could say.

02:14:40.000 It was that it would be a sellout because the video wouldn't be available everywhere.

02:14:46.000 But that's Universal's end.

02:14:47.000 I shouldn't even be getting into it, but he brought it up on air, so that's out of the bag on that.

02:14:53.000 I'm actually a pretty darn good guy, is the whole point here, folks.

02:14:56.000 I mean, I don't know anybody else, even in this movement.

02:15:00.000 I won't take questionable advertising.

02:15:02.000 I won't be involved in any of this stuff.

02:15:05.000 Because it doesn't mean anything to me.

02:15:07.000 Who I am is what is valuable.

02:15:08.000 What I stand for, what I believe in.

02:15:10.000 I mean, I know they've approached alternative news people, alternative health people, wanting to buy them out.

02:15:16.000 And I know a lot of people out there have said no, because they're not going to be involved in poisoning children, but a lot of people will sell out, and that's why we've seen a lot of these things happen.

02:15:26.000 But that's a side issue.

02:15:28.000 They're separately.

02:15:30.000 Paris is somebody who never sold out and has made it big repeatedly.

02:15:33.000 All right, I apologize to Jeffrey R. Smith for making him hold five minutes.

02:15:36.000 We're really honored to have him.

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02:15:56.000 Great to be here.

02:15:58.000 No, I haven't.

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02:16:07.000 Jeffrey M. Smith, good to have you back with us.

02:16:10.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

02:16:12.000 Great to be here.

02:16:12.000 Good to have you here.

02:16:13.000 You know, I never ask you this.

02:16:14.000 Have you ever been approached to sell out?

02:16:16.000 No, I haven't.

02:16:18.000 I've often thought if Monsanto's willing to give me millions of dollars to stop talking about them, I could just funnel that into anti-GMO activities and maybe I'd sell out. .

02:16:29.000 But no, I've never been asked to sell out in any form.

02:16:33.000 Well, that's when you know the New World Order's real, buddy, when they come at you over and over again.

02:16:39.000 So far, I've protected myself.

02:16:41.000 In fact, I knew that other people that had written books before I published Seeds of Deception, some friend of mine published a book against the grain they were about to publish it, and three days before it came off the printer, A threatening letter from Monsanto's attorney forced the publisher to stop the presses and cancel the publication.

02:16:58.000 So they were eventually able to print it somewhere else, but I decided to turn down an offer by a publisher to publish my books that I could publish it myself because I knew that they couldn't stop me.

02:17:09.000 See, that's why I haven't gone with big film production companies that have wanted to bring in professional teams and all those folks and do TV series and a bunch of other stuff folks don't know about, because exactly by signing on to that, then it brings other people into control and then you could lose control.

02:17:28.000 Yeah, there's a lot of people that have been wanting to option my first book, See the Deception, for a film, but I'm very cautious about, you know...

02:17:36.000 Losing the control because they might just flip it so that it may make Monsanto out to be benevolent.

02:17:41.000 Well, that happened to Jesse Ventura.

02:17:43.000 I think he got like three million bucks to do a year TV show on MSNBC.

02:17:46.000 It was a three-year contract, a couple million a year.

02:17:48.000 I'm going from memory here when he told me in the car, and he's also talked about it here on AirSum, but when he was here visiting us, and they didn't tell him, you know, it had golden handcuffs in there, but he didn't, and they said right after he signed it, it's like, all right, now you're out of the game for the war we're about to have.

02:18:03.000 And they just basically bought his contract out and he sat there for three years and then that's why he finally now was able to go public in the last year and a half because that contract was up saying he could do no other media.

02:18:13.000 So, I mean, they do it.

02:18:15.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:18:16.000 What I do is I try, like you, getting information out there on YouTube and on my website.

02:18:22.000 In fact, just four weeks ago, I got an email from India saying that they found that the genetically engineered BT cotton is causing massive deaths and reproductive failures in buffalo and cows, and that hundreds or thousands of people in the region who are touching the cotton that's genetically engineered to produce this toxic pesticide are developing allergic reactions like itching. and that hundreds or thousands of people in the region So what I did is I said to them, please, let's document this.

02:18:51.000 Let's get it videotaped.

02:18:52.000 And so we were able to raise money to get an investigative team in there with a video camera and two veterinarians and a reporter and a project leader so that that will be able to be put out for everyone to see what's really happening there.

02:19:04.000 Absolutely.

02:19:04.000 Now let's go back, and I'm really going to try to give you the floor, so you're going to be running here.

02:19:08.000 What you think is most important, the melamine, the estrogen mimicking endocrine disruptors in the plastics, the GMO, the India situation, because you really are one of the leading experts.

02:19:20.000 Tell folks who you are.

02:19:21.000 Then about some of your books and videos that we have available at InfoWars.com and also on your own site.

02:19:25.000 Give folks that.

02:19:26.000 And then you've got the floor, sir, whatever you think is most important to tell people because this is a public service announcement is what this is in the truest sense so people have a chance to know what's in their food and their water and ways to try to protect themselves.

02:19:40.000 Great.

02:19:40.000 Well, my expertise is really on the genetically engineered foods and crops.

02:19:44.000 That's where you take genes from one species and you force them into the DNA of other species Causing massive collateral damage, in fact, in the DNA, and lots of unpredicted side effects.

02:19:56.000 Now, these were originally introduced in our food supply widely in 1996, and that was because the first Bush administration believed that genetically engineered food, largely produced from a Monsanto company, would increase U.S.

02:20:11.000 exports.

02:20:12.000 And what happened was they told the FDA to promote the biotechnology industry, The FDA then created a new position for Michael Taylor, Monsanto's former attorney and later Monsanto's vice president, to be in charge of policy.

02:20:26.000 The policy came out with a blatant lie, claiming that the agency wasn't aware of any information showing that GMOs were significantly different.

02:20:34.000 Different.

02:20:34.000 GMOs means genetically modified organisms.

02:20:37.000 As a result of that lie, they said, no safety studies are necessary.

02:20:41.000 Come on, Santo and others don't even have to tell the FDA in order to put these foods on the market.

02:20:46.000 Well, we know now, seven years after that Policy came out in 1999, 44,000 internal secret memos from the FDA were made public because of a lawsuit.

02:20:56.000 It turns out the overwhelming consensus among the FDA's own scientists were in fact that genetically engineered foods could create allergies, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems, that it was different from normal foods, and in fact the scientists were appalled that it was going to be put on the market quickly, and had urged their superiors, like Michael Taylor, to require long-term safety studies.

02:21:18.000 Now, I'll footnote this by saying Michael Taylor is now on the Obama transition team overseeing agriculture, and that concerns me, although hopefully he's reformed.

02:21:29.000 But what's happened since then, GMOs have been out on the market since 1996, there's now 8 commercialized genetically engineered food crops, we'll go over them in a minute, and what I did is in my second book, Genetic Roulette, I documented with the help of more than 30 scientists

02:21:46.000 All of the known health risks of GMOs, and we've linked GMOs to thousands of toxic and allergic reactions in humans, thousands of sick, sterile and dead livestock, and damage to virtually every organ and every system studied in animals.

02:22:03.000 And that came out last year, but last month, two government studies came out, which I blogged about on my Huffington Post blog, and it turns out that an Austrian government commissioned study showed that When parent mice were fed genetically engineered corn, which is currently approved on our diet, that it had a reduction in the number of offspring and in the health of the offspring as judged by the weight of the offspring.

02:22:32.000 So it caused a level of infertility and damage in the next generation.

02:22:38.000 And the Italian government commissioned a study, which also came out last month, showing that the corn creates an immune response.

02:22:46.000 Suggested that it might create allergies or inflammatory responses or immune responses in humans.

02:22:51.000 So, we continue to pile on information showing that genetically engineered foods are unsafe.

02:22:57.000 Now, I realize I didn't really talk about myself.

02:22:59.000 Now I can talk about myself in the context of my work.

02:23:02.000 I've been working on genetically engineered foods for about a dozen years.

02:23:06.000 I worked at a GMO detection laboratory.

02:23:09.000 I was the Vice President of Marketing.

02:23:11.000 I ran for U.S.

02:23:12.000 Congress to raise the awareness of the issue.

02:23:15.000 I've published Seeds of Deception and Genetic Roulette.

02:23:18.000 I have a film out, which is available online for free, called Your Milk on Drugs, Just Say No.

02:23:24.000 Another one called Hidden Dangers in Kids Meals.

02:23:27.000 And I've been traveling to about 30 countries, counseling senior political leaders, speaking to the media and the public about the dangers.

02:23:36.000 And more recently, my Institute for Responsible Technology has put together what's called the Campaign for Healthier Eating in America.

02:23:44.000 It's a campaign designed to achieve the consumer rejection tipping point of genetically engineered foods in the United States, and we think we can do this before the end of 2009.

02:23:56.000 Now, a tipping point is something where we turn the use of the genetically engineered ingredient into a marketing liability, forcing food companies to take it out of their products or face reduced sale.

02:24:11.000 Now this happened with bovine growth hormone, genetically modified drug, inserted into cows to increase milk supply.

02:24:18.000 We had a kind of a tipping point against RBGH by consumers because of the obvious health dangers, which I'll tell you about in a minute.

02:24:26.000 And that occurred about two and a half years ago.

02:24:29.000 And since then, Uh, more and more dairies and retail stores and chains have taken out of their products.

02:24:35.000 The most recent one to take it out was Subway.

02:24:38.000 They announced it two weeks ago.

02:24:40.000 Walmart earlier this year.

02:24:41.000 Starbucks at the end of last year.

02:24:42.000 Kroger in February.

02:24:46.000 Yeah.

02:24:46.000 Even Borden's is now.

02:24:48.000 You can hardly find the growth hormone milk now.

02:24:51.000 So this is one area where we're having massive victories against these global crime cartels.

02:24:56.000 This is so exciting what's happening.

02:24:58.000 So we're having victories consumers can vote.

02:25:03.000 Absolutely.

02:25:03.000 In fact, our organization was part of the group of organizations that engineered this tipping point.

02:25:09.000 It wasn't just random.

02:25:11.000 We started educating people about the health risks Of the bovine growth hormone, the milk itself has more pus, it has more antibiotics, it has more growth hormone, it also has more of a hormone called insulin-like growth factor 1, IGF-1, which in high levels in humans can cause, is linked to cancer and high rates of fraternal twins.

02:25:34.000 And it's in much, much higher levels in the milk that comes from these treated cows.

02:25:38.000 And that's why we see all these twins suddenly everywhere.

02:25:41.000 Yeah, in fact, there was a study that came out in the Journal of Reproductive Medicine where they compared the fraternal twin rate in the United States to the UK.

02:25:50.000 Now, the UK, they banned the use of bovine growth hormone.

02:25:54.000 In fact, it's banned in most industrialized countries, in all of Europe, Canada, Japan, Australia, New Zealand.

02:25:59.000 But it was put through in the United States when Michael Taylor, Monsanto's former attorney, was in charge of policy at Monsanto.

02:26:06.000 It wasn't Monsanto drug until they sold it off.

02:26:09.000 to Eli Lilly this fall, because they saw the writing on the wall that it was going down.

02:26:14.000 But we know that the white paper that Michael Taylor wrote while he was the Deputy Commissioner of Policy stated that not only were they not going to require labeling of dairy products that contained RBGH, he was even suggesting that if some

02:26:38.000 Well, they tried to threaten dairies.

02:26:46.000 They tried to threaten dairies, as you know, to stop doing that with a bluff.

02:26:50.000 Just like... Alright, stay there.

02:26:53.000 When we come back, we're going to talk about this.

02:26:54.000 But the key here is, with the estrogen hormones in the mimickers, in the milk, in the plastic, we can have a tipping point.

02:27:02.000 We can have a tipping point on the melamine.

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02:30:05.000 Jeffrey M. Smith is our guest, one of the preeminent experts on GMOs.

02:30:17.000 And not just GMO foods, but the policies.

02:30:20.000 around the world in the fight against them.

02:30:22.000 Overwhelmingly in every poll it's 85, 95, 99 some polls against these people know they're bad especially the cross species genetically modified organisms where they put cockroach genes in tomatoes or some reason they use the cockroaches one of the favorites is such old genetics or in salmon I mean Pig genes, human genes in pigs, approving cloned milk, approving cloned animals, milk from cloned animals, the list just goes on and on.

02:30:50.000 We're going to go back to him in a moment, I hope.

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02:32:21.000 This is a short segment, but let's continue, sir, with where you left off about tipping points.

02:32:26.000 We're having victory after victory worldwide when we're actually able to reach out and educate the public.

02:32:31.000 This is very encouraging.

02:32:34.000 Absolutely.

02:32:35.000 With genetically modified foods, the tipping point of consumer rejection in Europe happened in April of 1999.

02:32:42.000 Because there's high-profile media coverage on the food safety aspects of GMOs.

02:32:47.000 As a result, within a single week, virtually every major food company committed to stop using GM ingredients for their European brands.

02:32:55.000 But the tipping point caused a swift rejection of GMOs there.

02:32:59.000 Now, what's needed here in order to create the tipping point are two fundamental pieces.

02:33:03.000 The first is knowledge of the health dangers of GMOs, and the second is Information on how to avoid them.

02:33:10.000 So we have a new non-GMO shopping guide, and I'll be happy to link that over to Infowars.

02:33:14.000 I'll deal with that after the show.

02:33:16.000 No, no, plug your site, folks.

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02:33:18.000 People should buy it right now.

02:33:20.000 Plug it. 0.84

02:33:20.000 It's actually free to look at, and you can also buy it at cost in bundles of 50, so you can give it out to your friends. 0.84

02:33:28.000 Good, so it's free online where you can print it off, but I recommend buying it in bundles.

02:33:32.000 It saves the work and the time, yes.

02:33:34.000 Yes, so responsible technology Very simple.

02:33:37.000 Only 14 pages long.

02:33:38.000 Very well done.

02:33:38.000 technology.org, you can go to our shopping guide, the non-GMO shopping guide.

02:33:43.000 You can look at it online.

02:33:44.000 You can print it out.

02:33:45.000 But we also can ship it.

02:33:47.000 We recommend getting these brochures that also talk about the GMO health risks.

02:33:51.000 When you give them out together, the health risks brochures tell people why to avoid GMOs, and the non-GMO shopping guide tells people how.

02:34:00.000 Very simple.

02:34:01.000 Very simple, only 14 pages long.

02:34:04.000 Very well done.

02:34:05.000 Everybody should get these.

02:34:06.000 Go ahead.

02:34:08.000 What it does is we're asking doctors to give it out as patient education materials.

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02:34:15.000 parent-teacher organization to give it out to children so that all the parents know what to buy.

02:34:19.000 And also it's being made available for free through natural food stores as well.

02:34:23.000 And there's a new film, and there's a new film out available, The World According to Monsanto.

02:34:28.000 We're going to be back in one minute, or 70 seconds to be precise, with Jeffrey M. Smith.

02:34:32.000 And let's talk about this, Your Milk on Drugs, Just Say No, with our guest, when we get back in one minute.

02:34:40.000 The fourth and final hour, straight ahead, strap yourselves in.

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02:36:04.000 We are live with Jeffrey Ann Smith.

02:36:30.000 Jeffrey, let's get into this incredible new film, and let's get into a wide spectrum of just how bad GMO is, and then the melamine, and the hormones, and the estrogen, endocrine disruptors that are in many types of plastic.

02:36:44.000 Well, this is an amazing film.

02:36:45.000 I think that if this film was widely seen in the United States, the tipping point would follow soon after.

02:36:51.000 out the world according to Monsanto.

02:36:53.000 Well, this is an amazing film.

02:36:57.000 I think that if this film was widely seen in the United States, the tipping point would follow soon after.

02:37:02.000 So we're actually recommending for individuals to host home showing parties and to host free public showings.

02:37:10.000 And we have handout materials that you can give to people after they see this film because the level of outrage and the level of motivation to be anti-GMO campaigner is greater.

02:37:21.000 In the 30 minutes after seeing the film, The World According to Monsanto, at any time in a person's life.

02:37:26.000 It just, it just, It shows, first of all, the background of this company, Monsanto, whose intention is to replace nature with its genetically-engineered, patented creations.

02:37:37.000 And they brag!

02:37:38.000 I mean, tell the listeners, they brag that they mean to take everything over so that we don't have a choice.

02:37:45.000 No, it's absolutely true.

02:37:46.000 I talked to someone who had come back in 1999 from a conference where Arthur Anderson Consulting, who had been Monsanto's consultant, they were also Enron's consultant, of course, They had bragged about how they had worked with the Monsanto executives, first asking them to describe their ideal future in 15 to 20 years.

02:38:05.000 And the executives described a world in which 100% of all commercial seeds in the world were genetically engineered and patented.

02:38:12.000 And Anderson Consulting worked backwards from that goal to create the strategy and tactics to achieve it.

02:38:17.000 And so their intention is to replace our food with nature.

02:38:22.000 Now, I've talked to a number of people who used to work at Monsanto.

02:38:26.000 One person I spoke to this year, he said about the bovine growth hormone that changes our milk.

02:38:31.000 He said that the three scientists that he talked to who were doing the actual food safety studies on the drug themselves switched to organic milk, which doesn't allow the drug, because they were concerned about the potential influence on their health of increased levels of IGF-1, which is linked to cancer.

02:38:50.000 He also told me that other scientists were indicating that they had found adverse effects of feeding their genetically engineered crops to rodents, I don't know if it was mice or rats, and we're trying to figure out how to describe it in such a way that the adverse impacts were not apparent to anyone who might look at the study.

02:39:09.000 So this is the, and another person told me that he was originally recruited to go to Monsanto by, and he looked at online, or he looked at the documents that were done by the former CEO, Robert Shapiro of Monsanto, that ...that glowed about the positive impacts of genetic engineering for health and feeding the world and all that.

02:39:31.000 So he decided to take the job, and when he was in St.

02:39:35.000 Louis, he actually stood up at a meeting of all these new recruits and described all these great things that Robert Shapiro wanted for the world and how great it was that they were working for genetic engineering.

02:39:46.000 He was pulled aside after the meeting by a vice president of Monsanto, and he told me that the vice president said to him, Now wait a minute, what Robert Shapiro says is one thing, what we do is something else.

02:39:59.000 He's the face man that tells a story, we don't even understand what he's talking about.

02:40:03.000 We're here to make money.

02:40:05.000 Then he discovered that the genetically engineered cotton that was being fed to the dairy cows down the street from him that was from Monsanto's field trials, that it had a potentially dangerous protein that had been the result of this kind of random, primitive way that they genetically engineer crops, He tried to complain and say this could be endangering the cows and the food supply, and no one in the company listened.

02:40:28.000 Instead, they ostracized him.

02:40:30.000 He tried to blow the whistle to government officials in California, to university professors, no one listened to him, so he left the company saying he's not going to be part of this disaster.

02:40:40.000 And that's covered in the film, long segment coming up, plenty of time to get into this.

02:40:43.000 And the big key here, and we'll talk to Jeffrey M. Smith about this when we get back, is this is a fight for our lives.

02:40:49.000 There are hundreds of GMO foods, but what, eight or nine big main staple crop ones that are about to go into hundreds and hundreds, where basically everything will be GMO.

02:40:58.000 So we either stop it now, it's already been devastating to all of us, a lot of us are going to probably already die from this, or they take over.

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02:44:58.000 But this new film, I don't have this new film, but I've seen clips of it online.

02:45:02.000 Incredibly powerful story.

02:45:04.000 Jeffrey M. Smith, tell folks Where they can get it.

02:45:07.000 I know MonsantoFilm.com, MonsantoFilm.com.

02:45:11.000 People's lives depend on this, and I want to be clear here.

02:45:16.000 I mean, I'm somebody who does my research.

02:45:17.000 When I was first on air 13 years ago, I was more of a mainline, but only for about a year, kind of libertarian Ron Paul conservative, and I still am on many issues, but Ron Paul now is concerned about GMO, because he's a researcher and he's a medical doctor.

02:45:30.000 I, over the years, went and read the case studies.

02:45:32.000 I had Nobel Prize winners on.

02:45:33.000 I had executives and genetic engineers who headed up companies that made millions a year where their rats would die or their rats would be sterile or the animals would get sick.

02:45:42.000 And they would go say, "We've got to go back and fix this." And they'd say, "No." Because they fire with these gene guns in randomly and get mutations and then take the mutation they like and breed it.

02:45:51.000 There's a lot of stuff, science.

02:45:53.000 The point is I have done probably 300, 400, 500 hours.

02:45:59.000 I probably read 20 books on the subject, probably watched 20, 30 films, hundreds of talks, had hundreds of guests on.

02:46:06.000 Jeffrey M. Smith is one of the leading figures in fighting this and one of the most successful.

02:46:10.000 He is very conservative, and he'll admit that.

02:46:13.000 It's frankly far worse than he's even saying.

02:46:15.000 Let me explain something to you.

02:46:17.000 This is devastating us.

02:46:18.000 There's a reason that 1 in 3 has cancer from 1 in 33 now, just 50 years ago.

02:46:23.000 There's a reason diabetes is up several thousand percentage points.

02:46:26.000 There's a reason the sperm counts down by 80 plus percent on average.

02:46:29.000 There's a reason women are infertile. 1.00

02:46:31.000 There's a reason melamine and all of this, separate from genetic engineering, is hurting us.

02:46:37.000 And aspartame.

02:46:39.000 And I will tell you, it's by design, it's eugenics. 1.00

02:46:42.000 It's like Bayer Pharmaceutical shipping out over a million doses of Factor VIII, every one of them filled with HIV and Hepatitis A, B, and C, knowing it would kill everybody that got it or make them very ill.

02:46:52.000 That's on record now, even on MSNBC.

02:46:54.000 This is real.

02:46:55.000 You need to get this film.

02:46:57.000 Jeffrey Smith, where's the best place for folks to get it?

02:47:00.000 Well, online, MonsantoFilm.com is the way to get it.

02:47:05.000 It'll be on your site, I'm sure, very soon.

02:47:07.000 Yeah, I meant to carry it.

02:47:09.000 Yeah, you'll be getting it soon from us.

02:47:10.000 I think you put an order in today.

02:47:11.000 But, my fans, the world record of my fans, I've got to give you the backstory on this.

02:47:15.000 I've been interviewed dozens of times by filmmakers, about 14 film crews have come to my little town in Iowa.

02:47:23.000 And I got a call from this French woman, Marie Monique Robin.

02:47:27.000 And, you know, it was kind of standard for me to start giving filmmakers the background about GMOs and who to speak to and what the story was.

02:47:36.000 The discrediting and the disruptions and the deceptions.

02:47:39.000 It turns out she had been studying this so solidly for so many months.

02:47:46.000 She knew more than any other filmmaker I had ever spoken with.

02:47:51.000 In fact, more than most anti-GMO activists that I've seen around the world in my 30 countries of travel.

02:47:56.000 She was so well prepared and she was going to visit the people that I had just written about all over the world, all over the country.

02:48:04.000 And so I was excited about this film.

02:48:06.000 I actually went to Paris and saw the run-through of the film before it was done and arranged to have it available in the United States because I did not want it to be, you know... Yeah, it's very well done.

02:48:18.000 It's very well done.

02:48:19.000 Oh, it's incredible.

02:48:20.000 It leaves people absolutely shaking.

02:48:20.000 It's incredible.

02:48:22.000 One reviewer said, it will freeze the blood in your vein.

02:48:26.000 And what it does is it talks about the history of Monsanto and all of the dealings that they had with Agent Orange and the lies and the apparently rigged research.

02:48:35.000 And dumping toxic waste in poor neighborhoods.

02:48:38.000 Absolutely.

02:48:39.000 And earlier I didn't finish my point.

02:48:40.000 I never do.

02:48:41.000 Just briefly.

02:48:42.000 What I'm saying is I didn't believe that GMO was bad.

02:48:45.000 I bought the propaganda that it was going to save everybody and feed the world.

02:48:48.000 When in truth it actually destroys farmers and is designed so they're dependent so agribusiness could take over.

02:48:54.000 So my point is I really researched this and found out that I was wrong 13 years ago.

02:49:00.000 But go ahead.

02:49:02.000 No, and exactly what happens with people is that there's so much money that's been spent on convincing people that it's going to feed the world, when they realize how dangerous it is, that the average GM crop reduces yield, that it actually destroys farmers, it's quite a wake-up call.

02:49:15.000 And this comes out in this beautiful film.

02:49:17.000 We talked to someone from the EPA whose colleague was basically trashed when she discovered apparently rigged research by Monsanto.

02:49:26.000 We talked to a whistleblower at the FDA who lost his job when he tried to get proper studies done on bovine growth hormone.

02:49:34.000 It shows how Monsanto's claims that their Roundup herbicide is biodegradable was declared false and illegal by judges in two countries.

02:49:42.000 How there's possible cancer effects, it was being covered up about their herbicide.

02:49:48.000 And each time when this is discovered, Somehow Monsanto gets the upper hand and stifles the research and ends up booting out the researcher or keeping him quiet.

02:49:58.000 Now, with GMOs, this is all a lead-up to GMOs, which is much worse than the Agent Orange, the DDT, the PCBs in Anniston where they said they didn't want to lose a dollar of business so they weren't going to inform the people locally that they were being poisoned year after year.

02:50:13.000 But the GMOs is absolutely the worst.

02:50:15.000 And the work that this movie does, it makes it absolutely clear that it was political collusion, industry manipulation, lies and deception that allowed these very dangerous genetically engineered crops.

02:50:29.000 In fact, there was one point where she's doing this rare interview with a former FDA pro-biotech manager, and he's trying to argue for the safety of GMOs, saying there's absolutely no question that these foods are safe, and then she pulls out from her own notes a 1991 memo

02:50:46.000 In which he himself admitted that GMOs, that the genetic modification might have been responsible for a deadly epidemic in the 1980s that killed about 100 Americans and caused 5-10,000 to fall sick from a genetically engineered food supplement called L-tryptophan.

02:51:01.000 And he was like humming and hawing, he just caught absolutely off guard not realizing that this woman has done her studies, done her research.

02:51:10.000 She also talks to Dr. Arpad Pustai from Scotland.

02:51:13.000 I think he's been on your show.

02:51:15.000 He actually was fired from his job after 35 years and silenced for threats of a lawsuit when he found that genetically engineered crops are inherently dangerous and cause massive damage to rats that were fed a genetically engineered potato.

02:51:29.000 And by the way, he was the head guy!

02:51:30.000 He was the head guy there!

02:51:33.000 Yeah, he was actually, he was the guy that had been given a $3 million grant by the UK government to create the ideal testing protocol for GMOs that was going to be instituted into EU law.

02:51:44.000 And he had been studying it, you know, with a team of about 20 or 30 people in three different institutes.

02:51:49.000 So he was like the leading person in the world doing the most official research on GMOs and was canned because he discovered that they were bad.

02:51:58.000 Now when he went public with his concerns initially, He was a hero at his prestigious institute, but then allegedly Monsanto called Clinton, or someone at the White House.

02:52:08.000 Someone at the White House called Blair, and someone from the Prime Minister's office in the UK phoned the director of the institute where this guy worked, and the next morning he was fired from his job.

02:52:20.000 And by the way, he was a topogenic engineer.

02:52:23.000 He told me on air several times he believed in it.

02:52:26.000 He wanted it to work, but he couldn't engage in mass murder.

02:52:30.000 He was concerned because he realized that the potatoes that had caused such damage, and they caused potentially pre-cancerous cell growth, smaller brains, livers, and testicles, partial atrophy of the liver, damaged immune system.

02:52:30.000 Absolutely.

02:52:42.000 I mean, this is after 10 days of eating a genetically engineered crop.

02:52:45.000 He realized that if his potatoes had been submitted to the same flimsy, superficial, terrible research, safety studies that had gotten other products in the market, the potatoes would have flown onto the market and assumed safe.

02:52:58.000 I want to stop you.

02:52:59.000 I want to stop you.

02:53:00.000 In 10 days in rats, in rodents, which they study because physiologically, or the way their metabolic system works, they're the closest to humans, next to pigs, but rats are cheaper.

02:53:11.000 And from the scientists I've talked to, that's not my opinion, that's a fact.

02:53:16.000 That's why they test mice and rats, and other rodents, skinny pigs, that in ten days, devastating effects!

02:53:23.000 I mean, this is, imagine, we're all eating other stuff like this right now.

02:53:28.000 You know, even, there's some studies that didn't get onto this world according to Monsanto, she got a lot of beautiful stuff on, but there was this woman, a senior scientist at the Russian National Academy of Sciences, who fed rats genetically engineered soy that we do eat, a mother rat, and more than half of the offspring died within three weeks, and compared to only one out of ten death rate when the mothers were eating non-genetically engineered soy.

02:53:53.000 Ladies and gentlemen, do you understand?

02:53:55.000 We're eating this.

02:53:56.000 This is deadly.

02:53:57.000 That's why there's... I mean, I was talking to a medical doctor the other day and she talked about how when she was going to the Albert Einstein Medical Institution, I've talked to Harvard Medicals as well, you know, who were graduating 30, 40 years ago, they would... if there was a child in the ward that had cancer, it was like going to look at, you know, the last right whale.

02:54:16.000 I mean, it was so rare that it was like, oh my God, and now there's just kids all around me in my neighborhood dying, people dying everywhere.

02:54:22.000 I mean, this is a holocaust. 0.96

02:54:27.000 You know what's interesting, this particular scientist, she was harassed, she was set up and attacked, she came to her office once and there was a paper that had been burned on her desk, she had samples stolen, and she was eventually taken off the ability to do any more GMO research because her director was pressured by his director.

02:54:43.000 So another scientist at this institute went up to her and tried to comfort her by actually saying, Well, maybe the genetically engineered soy will solve the overpopulation problem on the earth.

02:54:56.000 Which was supposed to comfort her.

02:55:00.000 Now, another team in Italy... Stop, stop, stop, stop, sir.

02:55:03.000 I've got to have you back next.

02:55:04.000 This is too incredible and we're running out of time.

02:55:07.000 We've got one minute before this break ends, this segment.

02:55:10.000 Specifically, the name of this lady, where this was. 0.59

02:55:13.000 Oh, don't worry, the overpopulation, because I've actually found, sir, it's all by design.

02:55:17.000 I know you don't go that far, you stick with the, you know, this area.

02:55:20.000 But it always comes up.

02:55:22.000 Go back to that little story, a little more specifics.

02:55:25.000 Sure, sure.

02:55:25.000 All right.

02:55:26.000 Her name is Dr. Irina Ermakova.

02:55:28.000 And there was some interesting things about her, about her research.

02:55:32.000 She had done this research three times when she fed mother rat genetically engineered soy. 0.51

02:55:39.000 And each time, there's a huge death rate and also smaller offspring, really runt-like offspring.

02:55:45.000 And a very interesting twist happened after she did her three research studies, which I'll tell you about after the break.

02:55:51.000 What I'm going to do, because the interest of time, I'm going to skip this break for the internet listeners and video, folks watching at PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:55:58.000 We'll come back and get into all the other areas when we return.

02:56:02.000 Time is too valuable.

02:56:03.000 Stay with us.

02:56:06.000 Drinking a chlorophyll... Alright, I'm going to go back to Smith.

02:56:10.000 Jeffrey, we're on the web.

02:56:11.000 We're not on the AM and FM for this three-minute break, but later the web ends up being bigger than, you know, the one-shot radio show, so I don't want to miss any time on this.

02:56:20.000 Flesh out the rest of her story, and then we'll come back.

02:56:25.000 Jeffrey... Time to these rats, and each time they had over 50% average death rate, and much smaller offspring.

02:56:35.000 Now, after three times, spontaneously and coincidentally, the clinic itself, the facility that she worked at, switched over to a rat feed that was all genetically soy-based.

02:56:48.000 So it was all GM soy in the rat feed.

02:56:50.000 So she couldn't do any more studies because she had no control.

02:56:54.000 All of the rats in the facility were being fed GM soy.

02:56:57.000 But after two months, She went to her colleagues and said, in your studies, which were not GM related, what is the offspring mortality rate?

02:57:06.000 It had skyrocketed facility-wide to 56.3%.

02:57:10.000 Now this means that it wasn't just her particular batch of GM soy that was causing this problem, it was generic problem with GM soy in general.

02:57:21.000 And so, this demonstrates that this could be happening to us.

02:57:25.000 Now, we have additional studies... Could be!

02:57:28.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

02:57:30.000 I mean, they study rats with drugs and chemicals and GMO because they're so similar to us with their whole metabolic system.

02:57:30.000 Could be!

02:57:38.000 And I mean, you just had the Austrian study last week, totally separate another GMO.

02:57:42.000 Well, that was corn, wasn't it?

02:57:44.000 Yeah, well that was actually, the reproductive study last week was a corn that was not only producing it on pesticide, but was also roundup ready, meaning it was designed not to die.

02:57:54.000 There's no doubt, this has to stop now!

02:57:57.000 I mean, I don't mean to get emotional here, but I'm fighting to not have my kids eat this, and I'm not a wealthy person, but I'm middle class and it's very expensive for me.

02:58:05.000 Poor families, as you know, can't afford this.

02:58:08.000 Well, in our shopping guide we show that you can even go and buy non-organic, regular stuff off the supermarket shelves if you read the ingredients and you avoid basically the offspring of soy, corn, cotton, canola, the four major GM crops.

02:58:26.000 Well, those are the ones that are everywhere.

02:58:27.000 Now, unfortunately, this year and probably this month, for the first time, our sugar supply has been contaminated.

02:58:35.000 Okay, let's come back to the full audience.

02:58:37.000 Let's go back to the eugenics. 0.99

02:58:38.000 Oh, it's okay, honey, if 56% of the rats are sterile and a bunch of them are dying when we feed them this.

02:58:44.000 The Earth's got too many people.

02:58:45.000 Specifically, where was she when that was done? 0.70

02:58:50.000 I'm sorry, where was... You were telling the story of him coming to the scientist and saying, don't worry if it's killing, you know, making the rats sick and sterile, we need to get rid of the people.

02:58:57.000 Right.

02:58:58.000 Come on.

02:58:59.000 Yeah, she told me this.

02:59:00.000 We had just given a presentation together at the European Parliament, and she was really frustrated because she couldn't do any more studies. 0.92

02:59:08.000 Someone finally came to her and said, okay, you can do GMO studies if you sign this contract that says you can't talk about your research for at least three years, and we can replace any of your cohorts with any of our chosen people, and you have no choice about it.

02:59:21.000 But she couldn't sign that because it was basically signing away all of her independents.

02:59:26.000 So she found out that not only were the offspring dying, but she took the offspring that survived and tried to mate those together And they would not conceive.

02:59:37.000 They never got pregnant.

02:59:38.000 It's interesting that another study in Italy also fed the same genetically engineered soy, which grows on 91% of all soy fields in the United States.

02:59:51.000 They fed it to mice, and then they looked under an electron microscope at the testicles of the mice, and it turns out that they were damaged young sperm cells.

03:00:00.000 Then they took parent mice, We've got to come back to the full audience and recap that.

03:00:07.000 had them mate together, then they took out an embryo, a young embryo, several of them, and looked at the DNA of the young embryo, and it was functioning differently compared to the DNA of embryos whose parents were fed normal genetically engineered soy.

03:00:21.000 Now, when I went to the EU Parliament...

03:00:24.000 Stay there, stay there.

03:00:24.000 We've got to come back.

03:00:25.000 We've got to come back to the full audience and recap that.

03:00:28.000 I used to be such a sweet, sweet thing to lay.

03:00:28.000 Here we go.

03:00:36.000 Now I'm going to be.

03:00:39.000 I opened up the little old lady. 0.99

03:00:44.000 I help the blind to see.

03:00:46.000 I got no friends cause they read the papers.

03:00:51.000 They can't be seen.

03:00:54.000 With me, and I'm getting real shot down.

03:00:58.000 And I'm feeling mean.

03:01:02.000 No more Mr.

03:01:04.000 Nice Guy.

03:01:06.000 Hey, the globalists are not nice guys.

03:01:09.000 We need to stop being nice guys and right back to them.

03:01:12.000 Alright, finishing up.

03:01:14.000 Jeffrey, I know it's a little bit skilted when I've got you behind the scenes talking when we come back.

03:01:19.000 You were finishing up with these rats that had been bred together, that had been fed GMO.

03:01:25.000 The embryos themselves were different genetics.

03:01:30.000 Finish up with that and then recap any more specifics you've got about she goes to him and they say she's distraught and they say don't worry this will contribute to world overpopulation.

03:01:42.000 Which of course she was compartmentalized.

03:01:44.000 She wasn't told that that was the whole point.

03:01:46.000 I know you won't go that far.

03:01:47.000 I will.

03:01:47.000 I've made the film, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.

03:01:50.000 Then let's get into the $64 billion or trillion dollar question.

03:01:54.000 The fight is now, they are proliferating GMO into everything and now is the time to stop them. 0.98

03:02:00.000 Go ahead.

03:02:01.000 Absolutely.

03:02:02.000 Alright, let's just talk about the reproductive issues because there's more about reproduction and the failure of of animals who've been fed GMOs to reproduce.

03:02:10.000 It's actually not just in the laboratory, we're seeing it among livestock.

03:02:14.000 And I'll show you, I'll tie it all together right now.

03:02:17.000 So we left off with Irina Ermakova.

03:02:19.000 It was at the EU Parliament offices.

03:02:21.000 We had just given a talk and she tells me that she can't do any more studies because she's been taken off the job and that someone tried to comfort her saying that maybe it'll solve the overpopulation problem.

03:02:32.000 Now at that conference she also showed a slide Of testicles of rats that were fed genetically engineered soy, and compared to the testicles of rats that were fed regular soy.

03:02:44.000 The testicles of rats that were fed regular soy were pink.

03:02:47.000 Those that were fed GM soy were blue. 0.76

03:02:50.000 A completely different color.

03:02:52.000 They showed, she showed slides of the cells.

03:02:55.000 They were a completely different structure.

03:02:58.000 In mice, in Italy, they were fed genetically engineered soy from a different group.

03:03:01.000 They looked under an electron microscope and found damage in the young sperm cells associated with the mice that were fed genetically engineered soy.

03:03:11.000 They looked into the DNA or the cells of the embryos from the offspring of mice that were fed GM soy, and they functioned differently.

03:03:19.000 There's a temporary disruption in the production of RNA from the DNA in these mice compared to when the mothers and fathers were fed non-GM soy.

03:03:28.000 Now let's, we fast forward to last month, and mice that were fed corn that was genetically engineered also showed infertility issues and damage in the offspring.

03:03:39.000 Now we look at what's happened in Iowa and around the world, around the country, a few years ago, when certain varieties of genetically engineered corn appeared to be causing sterility in pigs and cows.

03:03:53.000 I talked to one farmer, Jerry Roseman, and He said, you know, he tried everything, couldn't figure out what was going on, and then he found some other people that also had sterility in their pigs, and it turns out they were feeding the same genetically engineered corn.

03:04:07.000 So he went to the company, Garst, and said, your corn, they went in a group, all three of them, and said, your corn may be causing our pigs to become sterile.

03:04:16.000 So they gave him a sample of corn, and Garst never got back to him.

03:04:21.000 No, they had one of the GARST reps call the headquarters and he said, you're never going to believe this, Jeffrey, Jerry, they lost your sample.

03:04:28.000 So they claim that they lost the sample.

03:04:30.000 So Jerry called back and said, don't worry, I've been saving 20,000 bushels of corn to do research on.

03:04:36.000 You're welcome to come to get more.

03:04:37.000 And they never did.

03:04:38.000 When he hit the papers a year later, GARST immediately went on television and the radio and papers and said, we've done our studies and it wasn't the corn.

03:04:46.000 The same studies that supposedly on this missing sample.

03:04:49.000 Every time it was broadcast on radio, television, or newspaper or magazine, Jerry would get more calls from more farmers that said, you know, I'm having the same problem.

03:05:00.000 No one was willing to do the research on his corn to see if that was causing the problem.

03:05:06.000 In fact, supposedly a USDA or a university group was going to get together and try and create a study that was specifically designed to disprove that it was the corn, because they weren't even going to test his corn.

03:05:18.000 Well, he had to do his own study, and he took his own corn, and he fed it to his cows and his bulls, and immediately they got sterile also.

03:05:28.000 And there's more.

03:05:30.000 Well, this is the biggest story.

03:05:32.000 Let's come back in our final segment with you, Jeffrey Smith, and again, talk about the proliferation of all of these systems and how we stop it.

03:05:42.000 Of course, humans are also becoming sterile or infertile, right in line with the other mammals that are eating this.

03:05:50.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is by design, make no mistake.

03:05:55.000 I'm going to talk to him behind the scenes right now.

03:05:57.000 Hey, Jeffrey?

03:05:59.000 Yeah.

03:05:59.000 We're still on the internet, but I just wanted to have Aya do this now with total transparency on the show.

03:06:05.000 I know we cut you short today because we had some producer issues with some mix-ups as we tend to have had Murphy's Law with you normally instead of anybody else.

03:06:15.000 So you were going to be on for two hours and it was an hour and a half.

03:06:18.000 I got behind on some news I've got to cover, so I'm going to let you go a little bit after 40 after.

03:06:22.000 I know you're very prestigious and very, very busy, but I would like to really give you a chance to roll.

03:06:28.000 I think I've been doing a decent job of trying to control myself, not butting in.

03:06:30.000 This is so riveting and so earth-shaking and so important.

03:06:35.000 Thank you.

03:06:35.000 Do you have your book in front of you?

03:06:37.000 Because I would like to set you up again for an hour and a half, but really keep you to an hour and a half, not cut your time next week or the week after next before Christmas.

03:06:45.000 Do you have some time?

03:06:47.000 It's possible.

03:06:48.000 I'm leaving for India on the 16th.

03:06:51.000 So I do have some time at the end of next week.

03:06:53.000 Yeah, let's not wait.

03:06:54.000 Do you have your book in front of you?

03:06:55.000 How about... Let me see, who do I have on?

03:06:58.000 I have somebody on... I have somebody on... Not next Friday.

03:07:04.000 What about Friday again?

03:07:05.000 I do have somebody on a similar subject, Thursday.

03:07:08.000 What about Friday?

03:07:09.000 Friday the 12th.

03:07:10.000 Friday the 12th.

03:07:12.000 Yes sir, and I'm live from 11 to 3 central, noon to 4 eastern.

03:07:16.000 Alright, I'm free Friday the 12th.

03:07:18.000 Okay, what time would you like to do it?

03:07:21.000 Uh, you pick the best time and I'll be there.

03:07:23.000 Uh, what time zone are you in?

03:07:26.000 I'm in Central.

03:07:27.000 Okay.

03:07:28.000 11 works because we've never done 11 so it may be a different audience.

03:07:28.000 11 works.

03:07:31.000 It is, so we have different stations.

03:07:32.000 Uh, yeah.

03:07:33.000 Okay, let's do an hour and a half then.

03:07:34.000 Let's go from 11.20 to 12.50.

03:07:35.000 1120 to 1250.

03:07:38.000 Alright.

03:07:40.000 1120 to 1250.

03:07:47.000 Jeff Smith.

03:07:49.000 Will you get that in the book?

03:07:50.000 Because my producer's out right now.

03:07:51.000 I've got John in there running the show and Paul running the show.

03:07:54.000 They'll get that in there.

03:07:55.000 Okay, when we come back I want to ask you the big question, so don't start answering it now.

03:08:00.000 For humanity, I mean they get poor immigrants and foster children and people that really don't know what's happening, but frankly I mean, I would almost do it for humanity, and I don't have some bleeding heart syndrome. 0.98

03:08:12.000 This is so evil.

03:08:13.000 You know, as a warrior, as a man, I have this desire, this inbred genetics to defend the tribe, my human species.

03:08:20.000 I know that I would probably, and I've never been in a medical test, but I guess you'd have to do it, because humans have a longer span than rats, obviously one of the main reasons they use rodents, because the span's so much quicker to look at, and it's similar to humans, but quicker.

03:08:34.000 We need to We don't have people, but I guess you can't do it because we have to be young and they haven't consented.

03:08:40.000 How do we do human studies of this?

03:08:42.000 I know we can do studies with populations that have been eating GMO versus those that haven't, but then they'll try to muck them up and claim it's not.

03:08:50.000 Answer that question, because we need human studies.

03:08:53.000 I know we have a lot of human data, but because it hasn't been controlled, they can try to poo-poo it, but there's obviously no doubt.

03:09:00.000 So we're going to ask that question now, and then the big issue of stopping them now at the gates You know, only the four staples right now have this.

03:09:07.000 They're trying to move into everything.

03:09:08.000 Here we go.

03:09:08.000 Cyrus Jones from 1810 to 1913 Made his great-grandchildren believe you could live to 103 103 is forever when you're just a little kid So Cyrus Jones lived forever

03:09:38.000 I would volunteer for a study of eating GMO for several years and watching my sperm count drop to nothing.

03:09:54.000 I've seen the studies, testicles shriveling, everything.

03:09:57.000 People can laugh at that. 0.97

03:09:57.000 This is life and death, folks. 0.97

03:09:58.000 This isn't a game.

03:10:01.000 You can't do it with a young because they can't opt in. 0.80

03:10:04.000 How do we do controlled studies on humans?

03:10:08.000 I know there are volunteers who want to save humanity from this.

03:10:11.000 The genetics of sterilization of mammals is getting out in the open air, cross species naturally into other food crops, as you know Jeffrey.

03:10:22.000 Answering those questions.

03:10:22.000 How do we get human studies?

03:10:24.000 What human data do we have from populations that have been eating GMO?

03:10:28.000 The West is where the sperm counts are dropping, where we do eat it.

03:10:30.000 I mean, I think that's evidence right there, but I mean, you understand the wide question.

03:10:35.000 Right.

03:10:36.000 There's actually three or four questions embedded in that.

03:10:38.000 First of all, what kind of evidence do we have from human studies that have already been done?

03:10:44.000 And there's only been one human feeding study, and it showed that genes that are inserted into genetically engineered soy, in this case, Transferred into the DNA of the bacteria living inside our intestines and continued to produce these genetically engineered proteins long after the person had stopped eating the GM soybean.

03:11:02.000 Now this means that if we eat genetically engineered corn chips, genetically engineered to produce the pesticide called Bt, if that also were to transfer to our bacteria inside our intestines, it might turn into living pesticide factories, possibly for the rest of our lives.

03:11:19.000 If it does disrupt the gut bacteria, which is involved in immune defense, and digestion, and protecting against intrusions into the blood, then we would end up seeing digestive problems, allergies, immune problems, gut leaky gut, and other things, which is what we're seeing.

03:11:40.000 When I give talks to medical groups, they say, you know, we've seen a lot of gastrointestinal problems.

03:11:45.000 Maybe this gene transfer... Quick example, Crohn's didn't exist 50 years ago.

03:11:49.000 Now it's prolific.

03:11:50.000 Somebody in my office has got it.

03:11:52.000 Every time they eat GMO, they have to only eat at Whole Foods.

03:11:55.000 Every time they don't eat GMO, they have to go to the hospital.

03:11:58.000 Just people's guts are disintegrating, and they use Crohn's and other names as catch-alls.

03:12:04.000 So it certainly could be GMO-related.

03:12:06.000 Now, in terms of what's been happening to the population associated with GMOs, there's very little surveillance.

03:12:13.000 In fact, Health Canada said that they would actually do monitoring of the Canadian citizens to see if eating GMOs was going to cause problems, and within a year they abandoned the study, saying it was too difficult.

03:12:24.000 We do know that soon after GM soy was introduced to the UK, soy allergies skyrocketed by 50%.

03:12:30.000 There's many reasons why that may be the case due to genetically engineered soy.

03:12:35.000 Now, so we can't particularly look at the whole issues of the United States in terms of statistics.

03:12:43.000 We see migraines going up, we see low birth weights going up, we see allergies going up, we see gastrointestinal problems going up.

03:12:51.000 These certainly might have a contributor in the genetically engineered crops. 0.88

03:12:56.000 But in terms of how do we actually do studies on GMOs with humans, we know when we put a drug on the market, there's a four-phase clinical trial.

03:13:04.000 You do clinical trials.

03:13:05.000 You do post-marketing surveillance.

03:13:06.000 You do a sick population.

03:13:09.000 You do a healthy population.

03:13:10.000 There's a whole protocol that's never been done with GMOs, and GMOs offer a special problem because it's not a particular chemical that's always the same when you test it.

03:13:23.000 They are actually living organisms that change dramatically as a result of the process of genetic engineering, And so, therefore, the levels of toxins or allergens and whatnot might be completely different if it's grown in one climate versus another or picked at a different time or happens to be a different subspecies within that particular plant.

03:13:43.000 So you really can't do a properly controlled study with genetically engineered organisms.

03:13:50.000 They typically grow it under ideal conditions, and then the other thing that they do is they isolate the ingredient that's been produced by the inserted gene and just use that in their animal feeding studies.

03:14:03.000 But you see, the whole plant is different when you genetically engineer it.

03:14:06.000 Two to four percent of the DNA is different.

03:14:09.000 Hundreds of thousands of mutations are lined up and down the DNA, any one of which can cause a deadly toxin or carcinogen that it's never tested for.

03:14:19.000 When they put these things on the market.

03:14:20.000 So right now, we don't have a proper testing protocol, but what we do have is a bunch of false assumptions that allow these industry-funded studies that basically test nothing to be rubber-stamped by regulatory agencies around the world, and then put into our food supply, where then, well actually, first they put it into the environment where it cross-pollinates, and the self-propagating genetic pollution can easily outlast the effects of global warming and nuclear waste.

03:14:48.000 And then they put it in our food, where they're feeding the products of this infant science to millions of people.

03:14:53.000 So, it's a huge, uncontrolled experiment, which can be devastating to the health and life of the population, and maybe already has.

03:15:02.000 And the way to get rid of it, the way to stop it, it turns out to be easier to stop than any of the most... many of the big problems we're facing.

03:15:11.000 We think that as little as 5% of U.S.

03:15:13.000 shoppers, U.S.

03:15:14.000 consumers, 15 million people conscientiously avoiding brands that can change GM ingredients.

03:15:20.000 By avoiding them, it creates these products which carry no consumer benefit.

03:15:25.000 There's no advantage to using GMOs by these food companies.

03:15:28.000 If they see they're losing market share, we can easily get them to remove it, but we need that many people.

03:15:35.000 Jeffrey, I'm going to let you go because, again, I got behind today.

03:15:37.000 You have agreed graciously to join us coming up.

03:15:43.000 And that is, of course, next Friday at 11.20 Central Standard Time for a little bit over an hour.

03:15:52.000 And so we look forward, well actually it'll be about an hour and 30 minute interview to continue to break down the facts, giving people the sources.

03:15:59.000 I would point people at Infowars.com in the Alex Jones Recommend sections of books and videos.

03:16:07.000 Uh, to get the GMO video and audio trilogy for 1995 and the other books that are excellent, uh, that, uh, you have written.

03:16:15.000 So, uh, in summation though, just spend about two minutes if you can, please sir.

03:16:23.000 Specifically explaining the latest numbers.

03:16:25.000 I know they're always changing.

03:16:27.000 How many staple crops have it?

03:16:31.000 And then how they're trying to roll it out basically into everything.

03:16:35.000 I mean, I've read even tea, even different essential oil plants, just basically strawberries.

03:16:42.000 I mean, everything.

03:16:43.000 And so this is a make it or break it.

03:16:45.000 It's already at Armageddon level.

03:16:47.000 And then they're about to go, you know, to Alpha Centauri's at warp speed.

03:16:54.000 Right, so there's eight commercialized genetically engineered crops for food.

03:16:58.000 The four major ones that have been in our diet for years and years are soy, corn, cottonseed and canola oil.

03:17:06.000 There's also Hawaiian papaya and a little bit of zucchini and crookneck squash.

03:17:11.000 Starting this year, just harvested, will be sugar from genetically engineered sugar beet and also for the first time in our diet Yellow, uh, white corn.

03:17:21.000 It used to be just yellow corn, but a little bit of white corn has also been introduced this year.

03:17:26.000 There's been between 100 and 200 different species, I've heard the number 173, different species that have been field trialed around the world, including 50,000 different field trials in the United States.

03:17:39.000 Now these are species that have been, that are experimental, that have not yet been introduced into our food supply, that are awaiting approval.

03:17:47.000 There's also genetically engineered salmon, The company wants to introduce that, and the FDA may fast-track rules that allow approvals of that salmon before Obama steps in.

03:17:59.000 And there's also even a company that wants to introduce genetically engineered insects, and eventually mosquitoes.

03:18:05.000 And so imagine trying to do a recall there.

03:18:07.000 Now, what we've identified with genetically engineered crops are a long list of derivatives, particularly of the soy and corn, that don't carry the name soy or corn in them.

03:18:18.000 But you have to know that they're created primarily from soya corn, like maltodextrin and dextrose and things.

03:18:24.000 And we've got that list on ResponsibleTechnology.org.

03:18:29.000 Sign up for the Campaign for Healthier Eating in America.

03:18:32.000 You can either be a free member or you can be a donating member.

03:18:35.000 You can get all sorts of information.

03:18:37.000 You can sign up for a free syndicated monthly column.

03:18:40.000 You could also go on to my blog at Huffington Post.

03:18:43.000 We want to keep people aware, as this moves forward, not only with what to avoid, but what steps people can take to prevent.

03:18:51.000 And I want folks to make a commitment, because the social engineers know that we habitualize using a cell phone that radiates our brain, thousands of studies.

03:18:59.000 We habitualize drinking out of cheap plastics with the endocrine disruptors leeching out of them.

03:19:03.000 We habitualize ourselves Smoking.

03:19:06.000 We habitualize ourselves to the GMO, which is far worse, as you know, the studies show, than even smoking.

03:19:12.000 So, of course, you're now trying to have GMO tobacco.

03:19:15.000 So, they are moving into every level.

03:19:18.000 We have to habitualize.

03:19:18.000 Now is the time.

03:19:20.000 You know, it's like getting in shape.

03:19:21.000 Not that I'm good at that.

03:19:22.000 You have to totally commit to it and make it your life, or you can't just do it halfway.

03:19:26.000 There are no half measures.

03:19:28.000 This is the biggest issue out there overall for health, for our society, for our world.

03:19:33.000 GMO revolution is so wild now and so dangerous we've got to put the genie back in the bottle and I just want to commend you and thank you for all your work and we'll talk to you next Friday coming up in seven days, sir.

03:19:45.000 See you then, Alex.

03:19:45.000 Great.

03:19:46.000 Take care.

03:19:46.000 Thank you.

03:19:48.000 And by the way, I would add, folks, if you don't want to buy the DVD, The World According to Monsanto, it's on Google Video.

03:19:53.000 It's on YouTube. 0.94

03:19:55.000 So, but I would buy it from them and go to MonsantoFilm.com and just get this sucker.

03:20:02.000 I'm not selling it, we just bought some and we'll be soon.

03:20:04.000 So later you get it at Infowars.com, you're watching this on PrisonPlanet.tv in a few weeks.

03:20:09.000 And we need money!

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03:20:18.000 Do everything we can here to fight it.

03:20:19.000 Let me tell you, I feel good fighting the New World Order.

03:20:21.000 I feel really good fighting the New World Order. 0.93

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03:23:00.000 For the balance of the show, the 14 minutes or so we have left, Webster Griffin Tarpley for round two.

03:23:06.000 We ran out of time.

03:23:08.000 We covered Obama.

03:23:09.000 We covered the Queen taking over Canada today.

03:23:11.000 Yes, it's in Reuters.

03:23:12.000 We're not kidding.

03:23:13.000 Showing she rules.

03:23:14.000 When it finally comes down to her being thrown out, she says, I rule. 0.75

03:23:16.000 Boom.

03:23:17.000 Parliament, you're gone.

03:23:18.000 Huge.

03:23:18.000 So when we rebroadcast coming up, you'll hear that the first hour.

03:23:22.000 We got into Mumbai.

03:23:24.000 You've got the floor.

03:23:24.000 Break down why this is a clear intelligence operation.

03:23:28.000 Well, it's the Obama policy of bashing Pakistan, dividing it into five or six parts.

03:23:34.000 Remember, Waziristan, Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan, Pashtunistan, and, and, and.

03:23:39.000 More and more.

03:23:40.000 The immediate framework, the U.S.-India nuclear deal, so the U.S.

03:23:44.000 has a nuclear alliance with India.

03:23:46.000 On the other side, the urgency to get out there and stop the Pakistani-Chinese alliance, which is building up.

03:23:53.000 They were getting friendly, making deals for the first time in decades, just magically.

03:23:59.000 So that's got to be stopped.

03:24:00.000 The other thing is the Pakistani military, fed up with the constant Obama policy, because Obama's the one who demanded it.

03:24:07.000 The bombing and killing of Pakistani civilians by these predator drones in the northwest area.

03:24:11.000 I mean, imagine. 0.97

03:24:12.000 Suppose they came around here and started killing people.

03:24:14.000 You'd get your back up pretty soon.

03:24:17.000 So, the Pakistani military had cut the supply line at least once, saying, look, you want to get your truck convoy up into Afghanistan?

03:24:24.000 We're stopping it.

03:24:25.000 No trucks for the next two or three days.

03:24:27.000 This was a big shock for the Anglo-Americans and for NATO.

03:24:31.000 And finally, Gates.

03:24:32.000 Gates in position at the Pentagon.

03:24:34.000 Founder of Al-Qaeda. 0.95

03:24:36.000 Founder of Al-Qaeda. 0.95

03:24:38.000 Part of the conspiracy to take the hostages in Iran.

03:24:41.000 And part of the October surprise.

03:24:43.000 So as dirty as can be.

03:24:46.000 And this guy's now confirmed.

03:24:48.000 The new face of hope and change is Robert Gates.

03:24:50.000 Now I would say it's five or six components in the Patsy operation, because this is obviously false flag.

03:24:57.000 The British colonial power with British presence reported.

03:25:02.000 People from Brixton Mosque, Finsbury Mosque, British prisons, Leeds, Yorkshire, whatever it is.

03:25:09.000 The US, the CIA outposts in the federally administered tribal areas, recruiting Patsy's, recruiting terrorists there. 0.54

03:25:16.000 The Israelis, big Israeli-India special relation, General Mizrahi's visit to Jammu and Kashmir, that's a little bit like Sharon going on the Temple Mount, something like this, right?

03:25:29.000 Big provocation, get them all riled up.

03:25:32.000 There's also the fact that the Israelis are apparently training Indian special forces, which may be why they did such a poor job.

03:25:39.000 Then you get into the RAW, right, the RAW story, the Research and Analysis Wing, the Indian Intelligence Organization.

03:25:48.000 Everybody knows the ISI.

03:25:49.000 They've been demonized.

03:25:51.000 U.S.

03:25:51.000 media have never talked about the RAW.

03:25:53.000 R-A-W. 1.00

03:25:54.000 RAW deal is what you're going to get from them.

03:25:56.000 And they're into going into Afghanistan, picking up crazies there, Mujahideen, whatever they are, Taliban fighters, and getting them into Pakistan so that they can essentially wage armed civil war against the Pakistani government.

03:26:10.000 So those guys are terrorists, but not the way you'd normally think.

03:26:13.000 Now, the RAW leads us then to this world of Hindu terrorism, and this is very, very big. 0.98

03:26:18.000 U.S.

03:26:19.000 media never interested in this stuff.

03:26:22.000 Happens every week, but you never hear about it.

03:26:25.000 In particular, the guy that you're mentioning, right?

03:26:27.000 I think this guy, Karkare.

03:26:29.000 Karkare, the anti-terrorism boss of Mumbai, I think is a hero of our time.

03:26:33.000 Who busted a Hindu extremist group army captain really staging the last train bombing, blaming it on Muslims.

03:26:40.000 So he goes in there with his commanders, they all get killed in the first minute.

03:26:43.000 It's clear that there were snipers who were given the specific task of eliminating Karkari and three, four, five of his closest associates.

03:26:49.000 Because he'd been on the news saying the government's staging the terror.

03:26:52.000 Saying in particular that this was being done through Hindu Patsies. 0.97

03:26:56.000 Not Islamic, but Hindu Patsies. 0.99

03:26:58.000 This is a big thing. 0.97

03:26:59.000 There's a whole world of Hindu terrorism that they want to deny. 0.91

03:27:01.000 And he's killed during the melee. 0.55

03:27:03.000 Hold on, let's continue.

03:27:05.000 I'm going to skip this one.

03:27:07.000 I'm skipping this one, too.

03:27:08.000 Again, just for Internet audience, we'll come back and finish up.

03:27:11.000 You've got three minutes to flesh out the head of anti-terrorism saying it was a government op in the days before, and then they kill him.

03:27:19.000 And then we go back to Borges.

03:27:20.000 Okay.

03:27:21.000 So, this is Karkare.

03:27:22.000 Now, he had been investigating the Malagon Massacre.

03:27:26.000 The Malagon Massacre, 2006, 37 dead.

03:27:30.000 And he had been saying, look, it's not clear that these were Muslims, it's not clear that these were Pakistanis at all. 0.52

03:27:36.000 It looks to me more like it's this world of Hindu terrorism. 1.00

03:27:38.000 And he bossed the army captain.

03:27:40.000 He bossed the army captain.

03:27:41.000 And the BJP candidate, basically the shadow prime minister of the BJP, the Hindu nationalists, I guess, Had come out saying, this guy should be fired.

03:27:52.000 There were calls to fire him before he was killed.

03:27:56.000 So now, in the middle of this event, it looks like there's a special team that has only one task, which is to kill him, because they knew that he would be in the front rank of the people doing something about it, whereas the other Indian forces... I want to warn good cops and good FBI, like John O'Neill. 0.81

03:28:12.000 They killed a 9-11 and threw him in the building.

03:28:14.000 Every time we see an op, even Waco, some cops exposing Clinton, that had been state police exposing him, who'd gotten a BATF job, you see the BATF go in the window and they climb in and they shoot their own men.

03:28:25.000 So they love to use operations to kill their own people.

03:28:28.000 Inside the operation to tie up loose ends. 0.71

03:28:30.000 Go ahead. 0.56

03:28:30.000 And this brings us to the world of where do you get Hindu terrorists? 0.56

03:28:35.000 Again, this BJP is the governing party.

03:28:37.000 They'll probably be back in power soon.

03:28:39.000 But then there's this other thing called the RSS. 0.93

03:28:42.000 Hindu extreme nationalists, racists, Hindu superiority... The ones that killed Gandhi because he wouldn't go to war with Muslims. 0.98

03:28:50.000 And I guess the shorthand for this would be Hindu fascism. 0.96

03:28:53.000 And what we're getting, you see, Obama is attracting a kind of a fascist international made up of the lunatic Saakashvili, Polish and Ukrainian extremists, and now we're getting Hindu fascists becoming the great friends of the United States. 0.96

03:29:08.000 And your future is going to be hostage to a bunch of Hindu fascists under the Indian-U.S. 1.00

03:29:14.000 nuclear deal. 0.96

03:29:15.000 And that's what this guy Karkari was a threat to that, They didn't just kill him, they killed four other chiefs. 0.98

03:29:20.000 They wiped his whole team out in separate groups.

03:29:23.000 They're all picked out and triple-tapped in the chest.

03:29:26.000 Right.

03:29:26.000 So, therefore the notion, the Indian government says, we know who did it, it was Lashkar Al-Taiba.

03:29:32.000 Well, that's a Muslim group, you know, basically a Patsy group operating in Pakistan. 0.94

03:29:38.000 And that's trying to kill the Pakistani government. 0.93

03:29:40.000 They've been bombing them.

03:29:41.000 And they get tremendous support from the US and the British, and that's also well known, because that's part of the... So why would Pakistan control a group that's trying to kill them?

03:29:45.000 And why would they do this at all?

03:29:46.000 Why would they do this?

03:29:47.000 Why would they do this?

03:29:47.000 Why would they do this at all?

03:29:55.000 Why And what they're trying to do is to say, look, let's build the oil pipeline from Iran to Pakistan to India.

03:30:01.000 All right, let's finish up.

03:30:02.000 We've got a common interest.

03:30:03.000 We're coming back with where you see all this going.

03:30:05.000 Here we go.

03:30:06.000 Final segment.

03:30:12.000 I'll be live this Sunday from 4 to 6 p.m.

03:30:16.000 Central Standard Time.

03:30:18.000 We'll be back, of course, live next week.

03:30:19.000 Rebroadcast starts in T-minus 5 minutes, 43 seconds.

03:30:25.000 Webster Tarpley is going to be with me here this weekend until tomorrow.

03:30:28.000 Doing some interviews for the Obama film that we are making and about the financial collapse.

03:30:33.000 We're going to go do interviews at the new office after this.

03:30:34.000 One of the last shows here in the old office.

03:30:36.000 You get to see both.

03:30:37.000 We appreciate you being down here, Webster.

03:30:38.000 It's a pleasure.

03:30:39.000 Thank you.

03:30:39.000 You bet.

03:30:40.000 And of course, your book's available everywhere.

03:30:43.000 In fact, before we end with where you see all this going, why they want to get the two countries fighting with each other to destabilize the whole region, your new book is available.

03:30:51.000 We've already shown it in the earlier hour.

03:30:53.000 We've had a three-hour, 40-minute Prison Planet dot TV Show today.

03:30:58.000 If you missed any of it, it'll be posted for PrisonPlanet.tv members.

03:31:01.000 By the way, you get five-plus months free right now.

03:31:04.000 Here's the Japanese version of his new book, the cover of that.

03:31:07.000 Let me see the Deutsch.

03:31:11.000 I won't put that phone number up.

03:31:12.000 There we go.

03:31:13.000 And there you go.

03:31:15.000 He had a sticky pad on there.

03:31:16.000 And there's the Deutch issue of his new book, The Postmodern Coup.

03:31:22.000 We saw one of his books on Obama at Infowars.com.

03:31:25.000 Okay, that said, Webster, you've got about three and a half minutes.

03:31:28.000 Go ahead and finish up with where this is going.

03:31:29.000 Well, it's going to be a new phase of world confrontation.

03:31:32.000 See, the Anglo-American empire is collapsing financially.

03:31:36.000 Everybody can see this, right?

03:31:37.000 What's going on in London and above all New York is a total financial collapse.

03:31:41.000 We seem to be in a phase of deflation and strength of the dollar, but I think this is an illusion and it's only a passing phase.

03:31:48.000 It's because a lot of people are trying to deleverage.

03:31:51.000 They're trying to pay down debt, which is largely dollar-denominated debt.

03:31:54.000 Everybody's dumping their assets right now, so there's a glut of all commodities.

03:31:58.000 The hedge funds are in liquidation mode.

03:31:59.000 Everybody's selling, selling, selling to try to get dollars to pay off debt so you don't go bankrupt.

03:32:04.000 But with this $7 trillion and some odd injected, we can, I think, look forward to a phase of hyperinflation in 2009.

03:32:13.000 In other words, we're going through a valley We're going to need a new term.

03:32:17.000 You're exactly right.

03:32:18.000 And that's what we should do.

03:32:19.000 beginning in July, August with the oil price up to 150.

03:32:22.000 We're now seeing the depression of Main Street in a real economy.

03:32:24.000 There will now soon be an overlay of hyperinflation.

03:32:27.000 Right.

03:32:27.000 So phase of deflation.

03:32:28.000 Hyperstag inflation.

03:32:29.000 Actually, yes, exactly.

03:32:31.000 The worst of both.

03:32:33.000 Hyperinflationary depression, hyperstagflation.

03:32:36.000 We're going to need a new term.

03:32:37.000 You're exactly right.

03:32:38.000 And that's what we should do.

03:32:39.000 So the point is now, when the Anglo-American banking system and currency collapses, the entire Anglo-American ruling elite goes nuts.

03:32:48.000 And that's what we saw with the queen.

03:32:49.000 The Queen is expressing that her oligarchy over there are not happy campers.

03:32:54.000 They're going nuts, because they've got Northern Rock, they've got Gordon Brown, Alistair Darling at the Exchequer, and Mervyn King at the Bank of England, trying to keep this thing together.

03:33:03.000 They can't do it.

03:33:03.000 So they say, we've got to have outside events.

03:33:05.000 And that's what Rand said, as you know, a month ago.

03:33:08.000 And this was all over foreign press.

03:33:10.000 Rand Corporation said, we need a war bigger than Iraq, bigger than Iran.

03:33:14.000 We need something of World War proportions. 0.77

03:33:17.000 And Obama says, it's going to be Pakistan.

03:33:19.000 And remember that Brzezinski is the big power at Rand.

03:33:22.000 In other words, if there's a bleeding ideologue of the Rand Corporation, it's big new Brzezinski.

03:33:26.000 So now look at what we've got.

03:33:29.000 US, British and Israel against the world was bad enough. 1.00

03:33:31.000 But now it's US, Britain, Israel. 0.70

03:33:35.000 Plus India, most likely. 0.98

03:33:37.000 Plus Georgia.

03:33:39.000 That's not much.

03:33:40.000 And that's showing India never really got away from England. 0.99

03:33:42.000 The Crown is showing its power again.

03:33:44.000 Yeah, it's oligarchy.

03:33:46.000 The oligarchy, unfortunately, is based in the religion.

03:33:48.000 That's an unfortunate fact.

03:33:49.000 And then the British occupation.

03:33:51.000 But now, in addition to Georgia, Ukraine split, but Yushchenko wants to go with the US and the British and the IMF and NATO.

03:33:59.000 Poland, reliable NATO puppet, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia.

03:34:04.000 And we're headed into a Polish missile crisis, and there will be an attempt to cut the Russian gas deliveries from Russia into Western Europe.

03:34:12.000 They've got to get an anti-Russian hysteria in Europe.

03:34:15.000 And that'll be blamed on Russia, even though the West is talking about cutting it off.

03:34:18.000 Even though it'll be Ukraine and Poland cutting it off and stealing the gas for their own purposes and probably selling it. 0.92

03:34:24.000 And you've got this thing about the Kaliningrad exclave.

03:34:27.000 This little piece of Russia that's separate from the rest. 0.86

Alex Jones Show - December 05, 2008

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