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00:01:53.000 here on the weekday evenings.

00:01:55.000 And so he is with us for the rest of this hour to talk about Gaza, to talk about the New World Order that Kissinger is saying they're going to use the crises in Israel, the crisis with Russia, the crisis with India and Pakistan, which they're orchestrating to bring in their world government, and we'll talk about the economy and where he sees all this going.

00:02:12.000 Mike, I have to say that Obama is certainly not disappointing those of us that knew that he was going to be a New World Order shill. 0.57

00:02:21.000 Yeah, I'm afraid this has got to be one of the shortest political honeymoons in American history because we've already got, with Bill Richardson having to bow out, Rahm Emanuel's connections to the Blagojevich pay-for-play scandal.

00:02:35.000 Yeah, I'm afraid that Obama is already going into office with some serious credibility issues.

00:02:41.000 And again, I was a Ron Paul supporter and I only picked Obama because we really weren't given much of any other kind of a choice.

00:02:50.000 Yeah, it's a pretty ugly situation out there.

00:02:54.000 We're seeing his new economic stimulus plan come forward.

00:02:57.000 It's a token amount of help to the ordinary working class American people, and as usual, more and more corporate handouts to the big boys, to the big corporations.

00:03:06.000 Well there's also a bunch of money in there for United Nations eugenics operations and even the Huffington Post is writing about the fact that the UN is forcing abortions worldwide.

00:03:17.000 But meanwhile Pat Robertson is defending China's forced abortions. 0.57

00:03:20.000 The liberals are against it.

00:03:21.000 I mean, is the world upside down, Mike?

00:03:24.000 Yeah, it very much is.

00:03:25.000 It seems like people who used to be in favor of policy A have flipped over.

00:03:31.000 They're now in charge of policy Z, and it goes back and forth.

00:03:34.000 The neocons are more liberal than the liberals, and the liberals are actually becoming quite conservative in the paleoconservative point of view.

00:03:41.000 Everybody's scrambling to find whatever position they can use to sell, and it really is not politics of principle anymore.

00:03:49.000 It is really the politics of whatever's going to work and get the money and votes flowing their way.

00:03:55.000 Mike, we're going to break here in a moment and come back in a long segment.

00:03:59.000 Obviously, I know you want to get into what's happening over in Israel right now.

00:04:02.000 It's in the Israeli papers that they broke the ceasefire with Hamas, blocking off the entrance into Israel, the checkpoints, and killing Hamas leaders and targeted airstrikes.

00:04:14.000 We have this hoax, though, in our media saying that the Gazans, that the Palestinians broke the truce.

00:04:22.000 So I want to get your take on that larger operation.

00:04:25.000 But what are some of the other areas you want to get into today?

00:04:29.000 Well, I think you're absolutely right.

00:04:30.000 We need to be looking at the economy because the economy could be one of the motivating causes to bring on this so-called New World Order that Kissinger's talking about.

00:04:40.000 We already know that the various laws already passed to bring about a transition of our country into a dictatorship include an economic crash as a possible reason.

00:04:52.000 All right, Mike Rivera, by the way, is our first guest via web feed, so you can visually see him as well.

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00:08:37.000 It is the sixth day of January 2019.

00:08:57.000 Mike Rivera with us for another 52 minutes.

00:09:00.000 Mike Rivera, investigative journalist, and again, the man that runs the great website WhatReallyHappened.com.

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00:09:15.000 Let's continue.

00:09:16.000 Mike, let's get first into your take on what's really happening with Israel.

00:09:23.000 Obviously, you've got Olmert who had a 32-33% approval rating, depending on the poll.

00:09:30.000 Now it's upwards of 60% going into elections in six months.

00:09:33.000 We've got that stunt going.

00:09:35.000 We have this old Ariel Sharon plan.

00:09:38.000 He calls it the 48 option of when they started driving the Arabs. 1.00

00:09:42.000 Out of Palestine in 1948, the year after Israel had driven the British out in 1947.

00:09:47.000 So, I mean, Israel's on record saying what they're doing, siege, to make life so untenable they can force them out.

00:09:53.000 Do you think they're going to bring in U.S. 0.58

00:09:55.000 troops?

00:09:55.000 Will that be the unpopular move done January 21st, his first official day after swearing in on the 20th?

00:10:03.000 Or is it all these things Obama's doing that are, quote, going to be unpopular?

00:10:08.000 Well, there's a lot of things that are unpopular right now, as we can see in the corporate media.

00:10:13.000 The operation in Gaza has literally, it's being dropped in importance.

00:10:18.000 It's down to the bottom crawl.

00:10:20.000 U.S.

00:10:20.000 troops are already directly involved.

00:10:22.000 They're standing guard at the Rafah crossing to make sure that Palestinians don't escape the slaughter.

00:10:28.000 So U.S. 0.81

00:10:28.000 forces are already engaged, at least in that capacity. 0.81

00:10:32.000 Plus, of course, we've got all the advisors who are over there with Israel, teaching them how to use all this equipment that we're giving them.

00:10:38.000 So we're already kind of neck deep in this situation.

00:10:41.000 It's not being reported all that much.

00:10:44.000 Yes, the upcoming Israeli elections are a big part of what's going on.

00:10:47.000 This is a bloody campaign banner that they're waving all over the place.

00:10:53.000 And the other issue is, you're absolutely correct, this is about getting the Palestinians out of Gaza. 0.99

00:10:57.000 The Israelis have coveted Gaza all along. 0.99

00:11:00.000 It's this nice beachfront property, would be worth a lot of money if it was redeveloped.

00:11:04.000 There's all the natural gas reserves off the coast of Gaza, which Israel basically also covets.

00:11:12.000 And you know, the funny thing is, you talk about Ariel Sharon.

00:11:15.000 Back in 2005, before his stroke, Ariel Sharon made this kind of deal with the United States and the rest of the world, and that was that if we would turn a blind eye to the building of illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank, which is banned by the Geneva Conventions, and uh... u.s.

00:11:33.000 that u n charter rather regarding the uh... the use of occupied territories if we would turn a blind eye and let him build all these illegal settlements in the west bank that they would pull out of gaza and let the palestinians just have their little piece of land down there and i predicted back then 0.89

00:11:49.000 That as soon as the settlements were completed and built in the West Bank and there was no way of going back from that, that Israel would create a justification to go back in, reoccupy Gaza, and basically start work at building new settlements in there. 0.55

00:12:05.000 Well, Mike, by the way, you're right, but even the Israeli papers admit these battle plans written up by the former general, who's now the head of Mossad, were written up in 2000 to do exactly what you're saying in Lebanon to the north and then down the south on the Egyptian border with the Gaza Strip there on the Mediterranean.

00:12:23.000 So this is so cynical to have our controlled corporate press telling us that, you know, the Gazans attacked for no reason.

00:12:30.000 They had the border crossings blocked.

00:12:32.000 They were getting bombed every week, having their leaders killed.

00:12:35.000 The ceasefire was broken by Israel.

00:12:37.000 That's all over the foreign press.

00:12:39.000 The French, the British, the German, the Russian press.

00:12:43.000 But here in the United States, now with the internet, I can watch foreign mainline feeds and it's all the truth submitted in the foreign press.

00:12:51.000 Here, it's just...

00:12:54.000 A complete fraud, and even if you're for Israel in all of this, are you for the media lying to us as a people?

00:13:01.000 I mean, that's what I'm saying to folks out there that are upset that we're reporting the facts.

00:13:06.000 All we're reporting is what Israel says they're really doing, not the rhetoric and propaganda we're being fed.

00:13:12.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:13:14.000 The PR war to support Israel is more intense here in the United States than it is even within Israel itself.

00:13:20.000 I think one of the things that really pegged what we call the bovine excrement meter over here, what really happened, was last week when Bush is calling Hamas governorship of Palestine And Gaza the result of a coup and that is absolutely a lie.

00:13:38.000 Hamas won the election. 0.81

00:13:40.000 It was Fatah that staged a partially successful coup to regain control of the West Bank.

00:13:46.000 And given that the Bush administration's own legitimacy is very much in question because of the 2004 and 2000 election frauds, it is the height of double dealing hypocrisy and deception for Bush to be saying that Hamas is in control of Gaza only because of some kind of a coup.

00:14:03.000 And it's absolutely not true.

00:14:06.000 Mike, continue on that point.

00:14:10.000 Well, basically, they had an election.

00:14:13.000 Everyone said, OK, Israel has pulled out of Gaza.

00:14:17.000 It is time for the Palestinians to have an election.

00:14:19.000 And they did a big show about it.

00:14:21.000 And the Gazans voted for Hamas to be their government.

00:14:26.000 And, of course, this upset Israel, which wanted Fatah to win, and it upset the United States, which wanted Fatah to win.

00:14:32.000 And so, ever since then, they have been trying to basically oust the legitimately elected government of Gaza, and that's what's going on.

00:14:40.000 Now, everyone's talking about the ceasefire that was in place, and the interesting thing is that six months ago, when the ceasefire was agreed to, Israel was already planning this current campaign inside Gaza.

00:14:51.000 They built a model of Gaza City at an Israeli military base out in the Negev desert to train and practice for.

00:15:00.000 So we know all along that Israel was expecting this ceasefire to be destroyed.

00:15:04.000 That it was just a fraud to give everybody some breathing room while they went out and they did their training.

00:15:09.000 Propaganda statement that, oh, we tried to be peaceful, we pulled some of our settlers out, and Israeli papers are cynically admitting that this was their masterstroke.

00:15:20.000 Propaganda.

00:15:21.000 That's what's so insulting, is that they're admitting what you're saying, that they intended to break the truce all along.

00:15:28.000 Well, the important thing to remember is the ceasefire.

00:15:30.000 It was not only just a ceasefire, but what Hamas said to Israel is, we will stop shooting rockets at you if you will allow supplies and material and the things that we need to run our lives to come in through the border crossings.

00:15:46.000 And Israel reneged on that deal all over the last six months.

00:15:50.000 They keep making it more and more difficult for people and supplies and medicine and food.

00:15:55.000 and construction materials and school supplies to get over the border.

00:15:59.000 Then November 4th, right on the same day as the US elections, when the American people aren't paying attention, they slam the blockade absolutely shut.

00:16:07.000 They absolutely close off all the borders.

00:16:09.000 They make it impossible for anything to get in and get out.

00:16:12.000 They start creating this huge humanitarian disaster.

00:16:14.000 No fuel can get in.

00:16:15.000 So Hamas has to draw attention to the crisis.

00:16:19.000 So they start shooting their tinker toy glorified Estes bottle rockets At them, it's killed 17 people in the last few years, and that's not a good thing, but nothing compared to the thousands of dead and tens of thousands of injured in all of these different history of bombing raids and attacks that have gone on there.

00:16:37.000 So what bargaining chip do they have?

00:16:39.000 The deal's broken, and Israel acts like You know, they gave the Gazans this land. 0.73

00:16:46.000 This is where the Palestinians that were in Jerusalem and in Tel Aviv and other cities in the 40s and 50s were driven out in those pogroms against them.

00:16:56.000 I mean, markets were blown up.

00:16:58.000 People were killed.

00:17:00.000 Neighborhoods were bombed to drive them out to the edges of Israel, and now we have a mopping up going on.

00:17:07.000 And then the media dare claim that these are invading Muslims, invading Arabs into Israel.

00:17:13.000 Such a hoax!

00:17:14.000 It is.

00:17:15.000 It's black is white.

00:17:16.000 And you know, on November 5th, one day after the blockade, Israel attacked Gaza.

00:17:21.000 They killed six Palestinians, six Hamas officials.

00:17:24.000 So Israel really did break this ceasefire.

00:17:27.000 As far as the rockets going back into Israel, they're not only ineffective, there is some reason to think that at least some of them are being fired by Israeli collaborators to give Israel this justification for going in.

00:17:38.000 It's a repeat of Glywitz. 0.97

00:17:39.000 I mean, remember back on the first day of the aerial bombing campaign into Gaza, the Lebanese Border Patrol found a whole bunch of rockets just inside the Lebanon border pointing back at Israel, and they dismantled them.

00:17:52.000 And it appears that this was an effort, again by Israel, to shoot a few rockets back into Israel, say, oh my goodness, Lebanon is attacking, and restart that war as well.

00:18:03.000 Even today, Israeli warplanes are overflying Lebanon without permission.

00:18:09.000 That's an act of war.

00:18:10.000 They're trying to provoke Hezbollah into firing at their jets or doing anything.

00:18:15.000 That Israel can point to as an excuse to start a new ground war in Lebanon up to the Latani River, which they have been coveting for quite some time as a water resource.

00:18:25.000 So it's this incredible fakery and hoax going on.

00:18:28.000 We know the motto of the Mossad, by way of deception, thou shalt conquer. 0.74

00:18:32.000 We know that Israel has faked attacks against others under false flag again.

00:18:38.000 And it's entirely possible that a lot of these bottle rockets that are being fired, because they're homemade, nobody really knows where they're coming from.

00:18:45.000 It is entirely possible.

00:18:47.000 Let's stop there.

00:18:48.000 They're also trying to claim Iran is manufacturing these.

00:18:51.000 Now clearly Iran was backing Hezbollah.

00:18:55.000 uh... in the north but uh... there's not a big connection with iran and this rival group hamas but but on top of that we forget uh... lending credibility what you're saying in many palestinians are saying we know that the puppet government that israel had in gaza was kicked out of the elections and they wanted israel to go in and we know they have massive operatives tens of thousands that were formerly in the government and military

00:19:21.000 in Gaza, and they are the exact type of people that could be firing those rockets back into Israel.

00:19:26.000 So you have the motive, you have it all right there.

00:19:28.000 So certainly, there's a lot of evidence to that point.

00:19:31.000 And plus, Israel founded Hamas to begin with, so it could be coming from Israeli operatives within Hamas as well, not just from the Fatah.

00:19:40.000 Yeah, it's kind of an interesting history because when Arafat and the PLO started to unite Palestine politically, Do we have to break here?

00:19:51.000 Yes, we're going to break.

00:19:52.000 Okay.

00:19:53.000 When we come back, let's get into that, that in the mid-70s, when the PLO was really getting a lot of credibility over there, they founded Hamas as a counterweight to it, and our source of that is the Jerusalem Post, UPI, and others.

00:20:06.000 That is admitted.

00:20:06.000 Israel doesn't deny that.

00:20:07.000 Alright, we'll come right back with Mike Rivera after this quick break.

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00:24:46.000 Continuing with the point we're trying to make as we went into the break.

00:24:50.000 Well, basically the point is that when Yasser Arafat started to get the PLO to unify the Palestinians into a political movement to argue for their independence or their liberation, Shin Bet, the Israeli security force, created and secretly funded Hamas as a counterpoint to prevent the formation of a united Palestine.

00:25:14.000 They just wanted to keep playing the two groups back and forth off of each other.

00:25:17.000 Then when Arafat was assassinated, Israel basically stopped funding Hamas because they figured they didn't need him anymore and Hamas basically didn't want to give up the political power they had collected.

00:25:28.000 So they started working on their own and becoming, again, what Israel most feared.

00:25:34.000 A political entity able to unite the Palestinians in their quest for independence from Israel.

00:25:40.000 Well, that which does not kill you only makes you stronger.

00:25:43.000 I mean, with this type of oppression, these people don't have a choice.

00:25:46.000 They're always going to have to fight back.

00:25:48.000 And frankly, all this adversity is only going to make them more cohesive.

00:25:53.000 So Israel comes up with Fatah to basically play against Hamas the way they had originally funded Hamas to play against the PLO.

00:25:53.000 Absolutely.

00:26:03.000 And Hamas realizes they've been double-crossed on this matter, and Israel's going to keep on playing the game. 0.90

00:26:09.000 Anytime anybody's able to start pulling together the Palestinians, Israel will create a new fake front group with a lot more money and a lot more support. 0.86

00:26:18.000 To stage terror attacks.

00:26:20.000 Well, to keep the Palestinians divided against each other. 0.99

00:26:22.000 And as long as they're squabbling against each other, they won't unite against their oppressors.

00:26:28.000 It's called divide and conquer.

00:26:29.000 We see it here in the United States.

00:26:30.000 The rich against the poor, the men against the women, the young against the old. 0.89

00:26:33.000 Constantly the blacks against the white. 0.97

00:26:35.000 Constantly finding these divisions and keeping the American people squabbling among themselves.

00:26:41.000 Balkanization! 0.99

00:26:42.000 Yeah, rather than uniting against those entities which are actually the root of all their problems.

00:26:48.000 All right, other points.

00:26:49.000 Where do you see this going?

00:26:51.000 How do you see this unfolding?

00:26:52.000 The siege of Gaza City and the other two cities in the Strip.

00:26:57.000 Where do you see that going?

00:26:58.000 Do you see an escalation in US or NATO or UN forces?

00:27:01.000 We know those were openly discussed about going into southern Lebanon, but that didn't happen because of the unpopularity of Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:27:09.000 Do you see them now getting new legs or a new lease on life, like Kissinger saying, you know, the world loves Obama so much we're going to be able to get a lot of our New World Order agenda done, as he said at the Stock Exchange yesterday on CNBC.

00:27:21.000 Where do you see this going?

00:27:22.000 How do you see it unfolding?

00:27:24.000 Well, obviously the people who want a greater regional war are continuing to push for that.

00:27:30.000 We saw it all over the talking heads earlier today.

00:27:32.000 They're talking about how Iran is inevitably linked to what's going on in Gaza.

00:27:36.000 They're trying to sell this as hard as they can.

00:27:39.000 I think Israel's going to try and make any excuse they can to at least go back into Lebanon. 0.87

00:27:43.000 This is going to not begin and end just with little tiny Gaza. 0.98

00:27:48.000 This is definitely an opening to try and get a huge regional war going.

00:27:52.000 There's a huge rush because of the upcoming Israeli elections.

00:27:56.000 And of course, even though Kissinger's making that statement about New World Order and Barack Obama, the consensus opinion within Israel itself is that Obama, as supportive as he has been for Israel, is not going to be writing the blank checks that Bush did for these wars of conquest and genocide.

00:28:13.000 And so they want to get this thing really cranked up before Obama can come into office.

00:28:18.000 They want to create the problem to commit the United States regardless.

00:28:22.000 I agree with you.

00:28:22.000 Now, by the way, their Secretary of Defense, their former Prime Minister, has been on record saying this.

00:28:30.000 He said it three days ago.

00:28:31.000 He said it on Saturday.

00:28:32.000 He said, we may widen this into other areas like southern Lebanon.

00:28:38.000 So they're on record confirming what you're saying, that they want a wider conflict.

00:28:43.000 Yeah, absolutely they do.

00:28:45.000 They want to go up at least to the Latani River.

00:28:47.000 There's always been talk about Eretz Israel.

00:28:50.000 They'd love to go into Syria. 0.99

00:28:51.000 And ultimately, of course, as we've seen over the last several years, Israel is pushing for war on Iran, just as Israel was the prime motivator. 0.80

00:28:57.000 Oh yeah, they're claiming Iran.

00:28:58.000 In fact, they have editorials in the LA Times with Israeli operatives openly saying, we want to have war with Iran.

00:29:05.000 And also Israel's admitting they got their nose bloodied.

00:29:07.000 Their aura of invincibility got shattered by Hezbollah. 1.00

00:29:11.000 And those people sworn to fight to the death against one of the most modern militaries in the world two years ago.

00:29:17.000 And so Israel is again wanting to, they've been building up, coordinating, planning to try to get this image of infallibility and invincibility back because they need that Borg image of resistance is futile.

00:29:35.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:29:37.000 Israel's reputation, Israel's image is definitely on the wane here.

00:29:41.000 And I think, regardless of what happens in Gaza, the reality is Israel has lost this war in the court of public opinion.

00:29:49.000 And it's only getting worse.

00:29:52.000 Absolutely.

00:29:53.000 Mike Rivero, stay there.

00:29:54.000 We're going to come back and get into the economy and take calls at 800-259-9231.

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00:33:50.000 All right, Mike Rivero is our guest.

00:33:54.000 I want to go to your phone calls here in just a few minutes.

00:33:57.000 Before we get into the economy, though, Mike, I know it doesn't sound like you.

00:34:01.000 You've probably seen it.

00:34:02.000 It's probably up on your website, whatreallyhappened.com.

00:34:04.000 I know it's up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:34:07.000 Kissinger calls for a new world order on CNBC yesterday, and we played the clip back in the last hour.

00:34:15.000 We're just going to roll some of the videos so people can see this demonic creature there on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange.

00:34:21.000 And he again says we can use this crisis, you mentioned earlier, so I guess you have seen it, for our New World Order.

00:34:30.000 Again, why are they constantly admitting they're setting up a New World Order, a world government?

00:34:34.000 Why have they had the Financial Times of London and all these papers come out and say, yes, there's a world government, yes, it's for your own good, it's going to save you, Meanwhile, the FBI training manuals and police training still tell the police it doesn't exist.

00:34:48.000 Insane people say it exists.

00:34:51.000 I've got police manuals where it says, go ahead and take somebody into jail if you find this stuff in their car, because they're probably a terrorist.

00:34:56.000 Police chiefs, support your officers if they arrest somebody for no reason.

00:35:00.000 That's in mainline police magazines, not even the Well, basically it's a public relation campaign.

00:35:18.000 They're trying to put the most positive face on this idea of global government, but at the same time they're trying to silence those who are critical of the whole concept, and that's the reason for this double standard in behavior.

00:35:30.000 The reason for all the positive articles, as you point out, Is to convince everybody that this would really be a very, very good thing.

00:35:36.000 That's a hard sell right now, because globalism is seen by most people as what got us into this economic mess.

00:35:43.000 Because, you know, under the old nation-state model, the United States economic problems would have been confined mostly to the United States.

00:35:51.000 It was this whole international global trade that allowed the U.S.

00:35:55.000 economic meltdown to start dragging down the rest of the world with it.

00:35:58.000 So selling globalism as a cure for globalism is going to be a really hard sell and this is why they're going out and they're trying to silence anybody who's pointing out this very obvious discrepancy.

00:36:10.000 Well, exactly.

00:36:11.000 And then meanwhile, Greece has been deep into the IMF World Bank plan, where they come in, they take over the economy, they hand over the roads, the power plants, the infrastructure for pennies on the dollar to foreign corporations.

00:36:23.000 They lay off the people, their economy implodes, so the public starts peacefully demonstrating.

00:36:28.000 The police shoot some folks.

00:36:30.000 Then the people start attacking the banks, the central banks, the government buildings.

00:36:34.000 So the police have now been caught.

00:36:36.000 It's on mainstream Greece television.

00:36:38.000 The police admit it.

00:36:40.000 Dressed up like anarchists, out attacking shops and cars and the general public, so they can say, oh, look, the protesters are attacking the Greek people, to try to fool the public into joining with the establishment.

00:36:52.000 But they're playing a 10-, 20-, 30-year-old game.

00:36:55.000 They're now being caught when they tried last year in Ottawa during the North American Union summit.

00:37:00.000 The police attacked police, dressed up like anarchists.

00:37:03.000 Turns out they got caught.

00:37:04.000 That was in the major papers.

00:37:06.000 Denver Post a few months ago admitted that in Denver, the police attacked police in front of the news cameras in a staged event, dressed up like protesters so they could attack the peaceful crowds on the opening day.

00:37:17.000 All of this, all of this, All of this going on and happening, and so they're having to stage these events as globalism begins to collapse, and now they want to bring in their iron fist of police state, not just in Greece, but in Europe, in the United States, in England.

00:37:34.000 I mean, people know they're the bad guys.

00:37:34.000 It isn't going to work.

00:37:37.000 Yeah, it really is.

00:37:38.000 It's a very different world because of the alternative media, because of the Internet especially.

00:37:42.000 The tricks that worked 30, 40, 50 years ago don't work any longer.

00:37:46.000 and unfortunately the people in charge of these projects, they're a bunch of Cold War fossils who just don't get it that the fundamental nature of information flow in our society has changed drastically, dramatically.

00:38:02.000 It is as great a change as that which accompanied Gutenberg's invention of movable-type printing.

00:38:08.000 And if you look at the history of the social upheaval that followed the availability of cheap books and cheap printing, It really is...

00:38:16.000 It sets a lot of patterns for what we're seeing now, where the old established order wants to go back to the world where they had this incredible control over what you saw and what you thought, what you read.

00:38:27.000 I mean, we're literally seeing they're trying to go back to the days of the Cold War with Russia, and they're not getting any traction with it.

00:38:35.000 Absolutely.

00:38:36.000 Let's get into the economy briefly and where you see that going and a little bit about Obama's plan for the economy, which again is a bunch of corporate payoffs, a trillion bucks to basically buy off.

00:38:49.000 They've already given the banks their $8.5 trillion and counting.

00:38:51.000 We haven't gotten new numbers in three months, in three weeks.

00:38:55.000 But in the first couple of months of the bailout it was $8.5 trillion according to the AP Bloomberg.

00:38:59.000 And other publications.

00:39:01.000 And then we have the private Federal Reserve telling Congress, we're not going to tell you what's going on.

00:39:05.000 And then a board of governors, a member of the Federal Reserve, says we're not even allowed to know what's happening.

00:39:10.000 Only the Fed in New York and the Treasury are doing this.

00:39:13.000 And we've been told the War Powers Act has been implemented.

00:39:15.000 And then that's in Bloomberg and AP.

00:39:17.000 I mean, we're under financial receivership dictatorship.

00:39:20.000 But if we're able to expose that, it can't stand because it's so criminal on the face of it.

00:39:26.000 So how do we break the trance The public's partially awake right now, but how do we break the trance and let them realize the magnitude of what's really happening?

00:39:36.000 Well, I think it's kind of automatic, because we're looking at probably 11% unemployment in the next couple of months.

00:39:42.000 We're probably looking at 20 to 25% unemployment by the middle of 2009, and that's depression level.

00:39:49.000 And the government is grudgingly admitting we're in a recession, but I think most Americans are aware we're in a serious, serious trouble, and we're seeing situations where Bernie Madoff has just underscored the fact that a lot of the game-playing we've been seeing in Wall Street was very unproductive gambling, casino, get-rich-quick scamming, and the losses for it all are being dumped on the American taxpayer.

00:40:12.000 I mean, they've already caught Bernie Madoff violating the terms of his bail.

00:40:16.000 His wife and he have been mailing their personal jewelry, about a million dollars worth.

00:40:21.000 And he's still out on the street every day.

00:40:23.000 And he's still on the street.

00:40:24.000 The judge would not put him in jail.

00:40:26.000 I think they want him to leave the country because what we're hearing from other sources is that a full investigation into his little scam is going to reveal that most of these other Wall Street investment groups were also running ponds.

00:40:39.000 Well, that's already admitted.

00:40:40.000 I mean, every major bank in the world had investments with him.

00:40:45.000 It's more like $100 billion.

00:40:47.000 And they knew fully, and people were telling the Securities and Exchange Commission back in 1999-98 that this was a fraud, and of course they didn't investigate.

00:40:55.000 The FBI will go set you up if you don't pay $10,000 in taxes to the IRS.

00:40:59.000 You write your checks, by the way, to the Bernie Madoff Federal Reserve.

00:41:03.000 But if this guy steals $100 billion, there's no problem.

00:41:07.000 Yeah, because the people at the top were all neck deep in it.

00:41:11.000 They don't want you to know where that $100 billion went.

00:41:14.000 So what they're going to do is they're going to pay off the losses again with a taxpayer-funded bailout.

00:41:21.000 But that's the real danger.

00:41:23.000 That's the real danger, is that these guys are cornered.

00:41:25.000 They're going for broke.

00:41:26.000 They control through fraud the world's central banks.

00:41:29.000 They've bought up most of the economy through fraud.

00:41:30.000 They've debased the currency.

00:41:32.000 They've moved into the real assets.

00:41:37.000 And they're leaving a rear-guard police state here, and it's accelerating globalism.

00:41:41.000 I mean, I've talked to people that work at IBM.

00:41:43.000 They've already had massive layoffs.

00:41:44.000 They're now literally telling everybody, OK, you're only part-time trainers now.

00:41:49.000 Here are all your end-in replacements who are making seven bucks an hour, and you're all going to be fired in a few months.

00:41:55.000 So you can take it or leave it.

00:41:57.000 I mean, I don't think the public realizes that through this crisis, the race to the bottom is now going to be accelerated, and that this collapse will actually centralize more power in the hands Well, you know, I think what the American people need to realize is that all of this debt that they are in was manufactured with counterfeit printed up money.

00:42:17.000 I mean, the house that you're living in today is exactly the same house it was 20, 30 years ago, but somehow, because of all this extra money that was printed up out of thin air by the Federal Reserve, It's value and the debt that you owe on it is now much, much, much greater.

00:42:32.000 And this is over and above the fact that over the course of a 30-year mortgage, you're going to pay the banks five times what the house actually costs by the time you add up all the interest payments.

00:42:42.000 So we are, as a nation, we have lost our way.

00:42:45.000 We have wandered away from the making of products to make money, and we made money the product itself.

00:42:52.000 And the things that are used to create wealth, like houses, cars, TV sets, automobiles, all these things we used to make, it's trivialized, it's marginalized.

00:43:02.000 Our whole economy is based on it.

00:43:04.000 Yeah, we've got the fiat economy eating the real economy, and then they've taken the fiat money when it still had value and bought everything up.

00:43:11.000 Now we're left to not just have an economy, but to owe this fiat money to the very bankers that stole it from us.

00:43:18.000 I mean, folks, this is just indescribable.

00:43:22.000 Mike, I've studied history.

00:43:23.000 I've studied the history of financing.

00:43:25.000 And there have been similar things done on a smaller scale in third world countries by the very same gaggle of money changers.

00:43:31.000 But I've never seen anything even approaching in the arrogance, the openness, the wild-eyedness.

00:43:37.000 Again, they're going for broke.

00:43:39.000 They absolutely are, and I think what we're seeing here is the looting of the nation prior to its ultimate collapse, and everybody's out to make a fast buck and fill their own pockets and get the money offshore.

00:43:52.000 And again, that wild wildcatting at the end as it's imploding makes them even be more aggressive.

00:44:00.000 Absolutely, because they're realizing that the normal mechanisms of law enforcement, it's like what they're doing with Bernie Madoff, $50 billion and he's still allowed to stay at home.

00:44:09.000 The message has gone out, loot the nation at will, nothing will happen to you.

00:44:14.000 It's open season on the American taxpayer.

00:44:16.000 And again, they said three weeks ago at least $50 billion, now they're saying, oh, it's much higher, it could be more than $100 billion.

00:44:23.000 They still don't know where it all leads.

00:44:24.000 There are still people walking around who think their money was safe in federally regulated banks, not knowing those federally regulated banks were putting their money into Bernie Madoff's pyramid scheme.

00:44:34.000 Well, you hinted at this.

00:44:36.000 You hinted at this.

00:44:37.000 Yeah, knowing it was a Ponzi scheme, but they were insiders, so they'd be protected.

00:44:41.000 And that's that, look, his sons, this company, this guy wasn't running, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars of investment over the years, 50 to whatever, you know, 100 billion, you know, at the end of the musical chairs, the folks that didn't get chairs, but hundreds of billions over the decades, founder of the NASDAQ, formerly its chairman,

00:45:03.000 I mean, he's really taking the fall right now, claiming he created all the fake computer databases, he sent out all the fake forms, he filed all the fake forms with the government.

00:45:13.000 I mean, that's absolute bull.

00:45:15.000 It absolutely is.

00:45:16.000 I think his sons turned him in so that they could stay out of jail, but they're as guilty as anybody else, and Madoff is going to get off free because they're already planning an insanity defense.

00:45:26.000 He had so much money, he just went crazy, and that's why he did this Ponzi scheme, and he really didn't know that he was doing wrong, and they're going to do this little tearful thing, and they're going to get him out of jail, and it's just going to be this incredible miscarriage of justice, and the hundred billion dollars losses is going to be dumped on the working-class Americans,

00:45:45.000 Like everything else, and what Americans need to realize right now is the sum total of all these bailouts and repays and coverage and compensations dumped on the American taxpayer already works out to an additional $100,000 per American in added tax burden that you're going to have to pay that you will get nothing back for.

00:46:05.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

00:46:06.000 That's currently what's owed.

00:46:09.000 If we paid it today, the interest is racking up.

00:46:13.000 Absolutely.

00:46:15.000 I mean, that's obligations versus what's currently owed.

00:46:18.000 Let's go to phone calls.

00:46:19.000 Ronnie in Texas.

00:46:20.000 You're on the air, sir.

00:46:21.000 Welcome.

00:46:27.000 Thank you, sir.

00:46:27.000 With U.S.

00:46:28.000 taxpayer dollars in Gaza now, Israeli thugs continually commit collective punishment, which is a war crime, people!

00:46:36.000 Why? 0.84

00:46:36.000 Because that bigoted, socialistic, totalitarian, criminal regime of Israel supposedly believes God has Quote, chosen their own form of bigotry over all others. 0.84

00:46:46.000 And why? 0.83

00:46:47.000 Because you and me as U.S. 0.99

00:46:48.000 taxpayers continually pay them to kill people.

00:46:52.000 So what's going to stop that?

00:46:53.000 It's when you and me, taxpayers, stop the payments for killing.

00:46:58.000 It may slow down.

00:46:59.000 At least our collective guilt as U.S. 0.61

00:47:02.000 taxpayers will finally begin to lessen.

00:47:04.000 But who can stop the killing?

00:47:06.000 Those evil stooges for Israel, you and me, U.S.

00:47:10.000 taxpayers, must just say no to the status quo.

00:47:13.000 All right, Ronnie, I appreciate your call.

00:47:15.000 I want to get to a lot of callers, but since you mentioned that, Israeli tank fire kills 42 at UN school.

00:47:20.000 That's what the medics are reporting.

00:47:22.000 This is out of Reuters.

00:47:23.000 And this is only at one facility, and most of them teachers and children.

00:47:30.000 Your comments on that, Mike Rivera?

00:47:33.000 Yeah, this is the second UN school that Israel has destroyed in Gaza, I think in the last 24 hours.

00:47:39.000 And it's absolutely evident that Israel is not targeting just Hamas.

00:47:43.000 They're killing everything that moves.

00:47:45.000 They're using incendiary bombs. 0.90

00:47:46.000 They want to drive out observers.

00:47:49.000 They've said they're targeting press and international observers.

00:47:51.000 Go ahead.

00:47:52.000 Yeah, they already got the press out.

00:47:54.000 The remaining media in Gaza are confined to a media city of Israel's designation.

00:48:00.000 They're trying now to block the Twitter and SMS messages that are coming out of Gaza.

00:48:05.000 They're trying to completely isolate it so that the world does not see what they do.

00:48:08.000 They kept out the International Red Cross, and the Red Cross were allowed into the German concentration camps during World War II, but Israel won't let them in.

00:48:16.000 What are they hiding?

00:48:19.000 Well, we know.

00:48:19.000 They're running a siege.

00:48:21.000 They're leveling those areas like Fallujah.

00:48:23.000 Let's go ahead and take another call.

00:48:24.000 Peggy in PA, you're on the air with Mike Rivero.

00:48:27.000 Hello.

00:48:28.000 The reason I called is that I would like a comment from either of you as to how I should steer some research.

00:48:36.000 I was of the age in the 1980s when I noticed the goddess movement come into popular culture in Europe and in America.

00:48:48.000 Really didn't go anywhere, sort of fizzled out and disappeared.

00:48:51.000 And I have noticed, based frankly, Alex, upon learning the techniques that you're guessing you use to investigate, you know, that you have to look in certain areas.

00:49:02.000 And I've noticed that there was, it seems to me that there was a government effort Or an effort from some corner to completely eradicate it from the public consciousness.

00:49:12.000 You just don't find any comments about it.

00:49:14.000 Even on the internet, there's really nothing.

00:49:17.000 Goddess movement?

00:49:18.000 Yeah, the goddess spirituality idea.

00:49:21.000 Well, I mean, that's everywhere.

00:49:22.000 That's what the masons worship.

00:49:24.000 That's what they worship at Skull and Bones is the goddess Eulogia, the goddess Columbia for the United States.

00:49:29.000 Well, let me refine it, Alex.

00:49:31.000 One thing that they always I know for a fact, because of my own examination of old textbooks and so on, and also writings from the 19th century, is that in Europe, before the Warlike Tribes came in, all over Europe, the goddesses went back to like 20-25,000 BC, and there really was no god.

00:49:56.000 In other words, it was a very peaceful world.

00:49:59.000 Yeah, listen, I appreciate your call.

00:50:00.000 I know what you're talking about.

00:50:01.000 This goes into the Merovingians and all that, and it's actually the Illuminati religion.

00:50:05.000 You know, they worship the female side of the God, and so the male side of the God. 0.94

00:50:10.000 I mean, we're not really getting into that today, but fine, you're welcome to bring that subject up.

00:50:15.000 That's not really... Mike, would you like to comment on that?

00:50:19.000 Well, I'm in agreement with you, Alex.

00:50:21.000 I don't know where this lady is researching, but the whole goddess mythology is all over the internet. 1.00

00:50:28.000 My wife actually refers to it a lot in her creative works, so I don't think there's anything about it being suppressed or repressed.

00:50:34.000 It's just a case of fashions and trends.

00:50:37.000 It was popular for a while, now people have moved on.

00:50:40.000 Yeah.

00:50:41.000 We're going to go to break here.

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00:55:07.000 Oh.

00:55:08.000 All right, let's go back to the calls here.

00:55:12.000 Let's talk to Lori in Hawaii. 0.99

00:55:15.000 Lori, you're on the air with Mike Rivero.

00:55:19.000 Hey Alex.

00:55:21.000 Hi, just a quick background.

00:55:22.000 I'm from Kauai, Hawaii.

00:55:24.000 I have an 18-year-old.

00:55:25.000 It's the hip-hop generation that's going to wake up America, too.

00:55:31.000 For eight years, I voted for Bush.

00:55:33.000 I supported the war, and then I finally turned off my TV and found out the truth. 0.52

00:55:37.000 I've got to get un-brainwashed.

00:55:39.000 My question is, aren't we supposed to support Israel?

00:55:42.000 I'm a Christian, and I think our American people are led to believe that.

00:55:47.000 But is it the government that's corrupt?

00:55:49.000 I watched Fabled Enemies.

00:55:51.000 I've watched it all.

00:55:53.000 It took my 18 year old 7 years to convince me to find out the truth and now I've been researching on the internet and everything like that so I wanted to see if you could direct me to some good information for research.

00:56:05.000 Let me comment on this.

00:56:07.000 I don't hate Israel.

00:56:10.000 I don't hate England.

00:56:10.000 I don't hate Germany.

00:56:11.000 I don't hate China.

00:56:13.000 Most governments throughout history are run by groups that want power and control.

00:56:18.000 And then we'll get Mike's final comment on this, because we're almost out of time.

00:56:24.000 What happens here is this is just more colonialism.

00:56:27.000 The Ottoman Empire fell after World War I. They lost control of what was Palestine, what was on the map was Palestine.

00:56:34.000 And then British Zionists funded, the Rothschilds funded, that's public, it's admitted in Israel, everything's dedicated to them, to go in and carry out terror attacks to kick the British out, and then to kick the Arabs out. 0.89

00:56:47.000 And so then, around that same time, there was financing and funding in U.S.

00:56:53.000 churches by the Council of Churches, now the World Council of Churches, to create this new religion based around, you know, that this is Israel, And that the Antichrist is going to attack Israel and that we have to get behind Israel or we're going to hell. 0.85

00:57:10.000 When my Bible in Revelations and Daniel and Ezekiel says that Israel didn't do what they were supposed to do so they were kicked out.

00:57:18.000 And that the Antichrist will go to Israel and say he's God.

00:57:21.000 Okay, and so, I mean, just from that perspective, you want to argue it on a religious basis, it's completely twisted compared to what the Bible actually says. 0.99

00:57:30.000 Does that mean I'm even supporting the Muslims, or I want them to, you know, kill all the Jews and kick them out? 1.00

00:57:35.000 The point is, Israel's mopping up and pushing everybody out, and is very secular, and doesn't allow Christians to preach in Israel, and that's not reported here either. 0.99

00:57:35.000 No! 0.99

00:57:44.000 Mike Rivero, and I appreciate your call.

00:57:45.000 You can call back another time, we can talk more about it.

00:57:48.000 I'm sorry, we're just out of time.

00:57:49.000 The clock, another guest coming up.

00:57:51.000 In closing, Mike Rivero, comment on that.

00:57:54.000 Just real quick, I mean there's no question that Israel has successfully exploited the religious beliefs of American Christians for purely propagandistic purposes to build support for Israel's actions and a lot of people are, as this caller is very confused, because they think what is going on now in Gaza is somehow part of the biblical Israel of two thousand years ago and there really is no connection.

00:58:18.000 It is a false link Fostered by the current government of Israel, purely to build political support for what otherwise would be seen as violations of the Ten Commandments.

00:58:27.000 And then meanwhile, we see the Israeli lobby aggressively going after the Second Amendment here, trying to set up warrantless searches, police state, and really pushing for anti-democratic moves in the United States, kind of capturing us as their Hessian mercenary supply chain. 0.82

00:58:44.000 Mike Rivero, I want to thank you for coming on with us, and we'll talk to you again the same time next month.

00:58:50.000 Thank you so much.

00:58:51.000 Thank you for having me again.

00:58:53.000 We'll be right back.

00:58:53.000 You bet.

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00:59:07.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

00:59:13.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

00:59:16.000 But who is the enemy?

00:59:18.000 This is his ammo.

00:59:18.000 Bin Laden.

00:59:19.000 We have to look to the Middle East.

00:59:21.000 We have to look to Osama Bin Laden. 0.93

00:59:23.000 Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.

00:59:30.000 Some U.S.

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00:59:37.000 I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.

00:59:41.000 ...Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.

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01:00:33.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:39.000 Well, I have read his writings for years.

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01:00:49.000 This is his first time on air with us, but I hope it's the first of many visits.

01:00:54.000 Dr. Edwin Vieira Jr., Ph.D., J.D., holds four degrees from Harvard College, A.M., Ph.D., Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, and J.D., Harvard Law School.

01:01:05.000 For more than 30 years, he's practiced law with emphasis on constitutional issues, He is also one of our country's most eminent constitutional attorneys, having brought four cases that were accepted by the Supreme Court and having won three of them.

01:01:17.000 In the Supreme Court of the United States, he successfully argued, or briefed, the case leading to the landmark decision, Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, Chicago Teachers Union v. Hudson, Communications Workers of America v. Beck, which established constitutional and statutory limitations on the use of labor unions in which private and the public sectors may apply fees extracted from the non-union workers as a condition of their employment.

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01:02:17.000 And it just goes on and on.

01:02:19.000 Sir, I didn't do a pre-interview with you, but I want to get into the real history of the Second Amendment.

01:02:24.000 You know, a brief history of what our real monetary system should be versus the private offshore Federal Reserve.

01:02:30.000 And then, of course, your overall view of the police state, the classical police state that is unfolding in this nation.

01:02:40.000 So, Mr. Vieira, it's great to have you on with us.

01:02:43.000 It's my pleasure to be with you, Alex.

01:02:46.000 Where would you like to begin?

01:02:47.000 Well, we're going to break here in about three minutes and come back in a long segment.

01:02:50.000 Tell folks about your awakening, some of the work you've done, and some of the things you think are most important right now.

01:02:56.000 Well, going in reverse order from what you listed, we are seeing the development, quite clearly intentional development, of a top-down police state apparatus out of Washington, D.C.

01:03:10.000 I do not believe that this thing was set up originally because of the 9-11 event, the so-called international terrorism problem, because we know the Patriot Act, the first version of the Patriot Act, was drawn up long before 9-11.

01:03:24.000 They were simply waiting for some episode to justify putting it into legislation.

01:03:31.000 I think what they're really anticipating, and we're seeing it unfolding now in the markets, is the breakdown of this basically corrupt and unsustainable monetary and banking system centered around the Federal Reserve.

01:03:43.000 And they know when this comes down in a world system entirely based upon central bank fiat currency and credit expansion as a method for creating money, that they're going to see social, economic, and political dislocations Unlike any that have been seen before, certainly maybe an order of magnitude worse than occurred during the Great Depression in the United States from 29 to 32 when it really broke.

01:04:10.000 And they are anticipating that under those circumstances, they're going to need to crack down on the population with essentially police-type controls.

01:04:19.000 And that's why this whole Homeland Security paranoia has been generated out of Washington, is to prepare the groundwork for that.

01:04:27.000 On the one hand, in developing the agencies and forces that are necessary to put it into effect.

01:04:32.000 Then on the other hand, creating the psychological acceptance, acquiescence, if you will, on the basis of which the population will simply be expected to roll over for this kind of control.

01:04:45.000 And ultimately this is directed towards, whether intentionally or not, it's certainly going to result in the destruction of our basic constitutional form of government and all the freedoms and economic prosperity that go with it.

01:04:58.000 Alright, Dr. Edwin Vieira is our guest and we'll be back with Dr. Edwin Vieira right after this quick break.

01:05:06.000 And we're going to break down what this top-down police state is going to be like and how do we try to avert it or reverse it.

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01:08:13.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:08:24.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:08:32.000 Dr. Edwin Vieira is our guest for stations that just joined us.

01:08:35.000 We were getting into where this top constitutional scholar has won three times at the Supreme Court.

01:08:43.000 The top-down police state, the classical police state they've borrowed from the Nazis, the Communists, the Inquisitors of old, all of it integrated into this surveillance grid, this total federalization.

01:08:55.000 They smoke screen the public saying, oh, this whole police state's to fight Al-Qaeda, Al-Cieda.

01:09:00.000 And then now they're saying, oh, we're going to use 20,000 U.S.

01:09:03.000 Oh, Obama's going to have a million-person corps as big as the military, domestic spies. 0.62

01:09:03.000 troops. 0.62

01:09:08.000 You're going to have to be drafted 18 to 24 to serve the government.

01:09:13.000 This is all happening and now they're admitting that they set it all up for the financial collapse.

01:09:17.000 So we're going over this.

01:09:19.000 There's no more denial here.

01:09:21.000 They've now in their scholarly publications and in Pentagon directives and Army War College documents admit this is happening and that they'll even use Canadian, Mexican troops, foreign troops.

01:09:31.000 And then the Congress earlier last year said, why aren't we being informed?

01:09:35.000 And the President said, PDD 51, you're not involved in continuity of government.

01:09:40.000 So we've got one of the preeminent scholars on the line with us, Dr. Edwin Vieira.

01:09:46.000 Sir, please continue.

01:09:47.000 Let's start there with the entire police state, what makes a police state, and then hopefully how we stop it.

01:09:56.000 Well, let's go back to the antithesis of the police state, so we'll have a baseline to work from, and of course that's the Constitution of the United States.

01:10:03.000 Which is based on principles antithetical and really contradictory in every sense to the concept of a top-down police state.

01:10:11.000 The top-down police state is talking about control from the top down and obedience from the bottom up and of course our constitutional system works in exactly the opposite manner.

01:10:20.000 It's liberty at the bottom and control coming from the people and then obedience in principle at least by the representatives whether elected or appointed at the upper levels of government, state or national.

01:10:32.000 If you look at the Constitution, and I always like to say, listen, when something goes wrong with the machinery that you're using, the smart individual turns to the Book of Instructions, and the Book of Instructions for our system is the Constitution of the United States.

01:10:46.000 The only place in the Constitution where it refers to security Is in the Second Amendment.

01:10:52.000 A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state.

01:10:56.000 And it's a particular kind of security.

01:10:59.000 It's not police state security.

01:11:00.000 It's not all embracing welfare state security.

01:11:03.000 It's the security of a free state.

01:11:05.000 That's the goal.

01:11:07.000 Instrumentally, Second Amendment tells us that something called the militia is necessary for that purpose.

01:11:14.000 Again, very interesting.

01:11:15.000 That's the only place in the Constitution at the present time where it says that anything is necessary for any purpose.

01:11:22.000 It doesn't say Congress is necessary, the President is necessary, the Supreme Court is necessary.

01:11:25.000 It says that a well-regulated militia is necessary for this ultimately important purpose of securing a free state.

01:11:32.000 So if we were to take that term, Homeland Security, And pretend for the moment that it's not loaded from the point of view of the people who want to put a police state into operation.

01:11:43.000 Just take that as a neutral term.

01:11:44.000 We'd say, well, this constitution tells us.

01:11:46.000 How to provide for homeland security.

01:11:49.000 We want homeland security in the sense of a security-free state.

01:11:52.000 We need this thing called a well-regulated militia. 0.85

01:11:55.000 And the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

01:11:59.000 I mean, it's right there.

01:12:01.000 It's us.

01:12:01.000 They try to play with the definition of a well-regulated militia, claiming it's, as you know, the 1906 National Guard, when it has nothing to do with that.

01:12:09.000 It is the armed population against street thugs and a tyrannical government.

01:12:13.000 Not just our right, but our duty Well, that's precisely correct, because if you take yourself back to the time of ratification of the Constitution, now it's 1787 or the Bill of Rights, 1791, and you ask yourself, what did that term, militia, mean to those people?

01:12:34.000 Clearly, there's no definition of it in the Constitution.

01:12:38.000 Most of the terms in the Constitution of great consequence are not defined, because they didn't need to be defined.

01:12:43.000 People understood precisely what they meant.

01:12:45.000 At that point in time, every adult American in this country knew what a well-regulated militia was.

01:12:52.000 Because we were a paramilitary armed camp of French terrorism and businessmen and the freest people in the world.

01:13:01.000 Well, they were all members.

01:13:02.000 In every state in the Union, all the 13 states, statutes had provided, actually going well back into the colonial period, many instances of the early 1600s, had provided for these structures called militias.

01:13:17.000 And they were the same in every colony and every state leading up to the Constitution.

01:13:21.000 They embodied every adult free male, and in many instances even some freed slaves were allowed to participate in this.

01:13:32.000 And their basic principle was precisely what you suggested, that every adult free male had a responsibility, not simply a right, but a duty to be armed, to be trained, to be ready to be called out in any kind of emergency situation.

01:13:48.000 They used to use the term alarm, was the specific statutory term that you see used for these emergencies that we would call Homeland Security problems.

01:13:58.000 And it extended across the entire community.

01:14:02.000 So you didn't have a separation in the provision of what we would call Homeland Security between the people themselves and some elite group of police or Homeland Security agencies or what have you that have been developed in more recent times.

01:14:17.000 And this was fundamentally important, not simply for the provision of security, But for the maintenance of true democracy.

01:14:25.000 That is, the people who were going to be in control of this situation were the people themselves.

01:14:31.000 we the people as the Constitution identifies us.

01:14:34.000 And as you know, Doctor, the founders said over and over again, this is one of the few things they were unanimous on, they said we cannot fall from without because we are an armed, free nation of people that are trained to defend themselves.

01:14:47.000 If we fall, it will be from within, and it will be a central bank engaging and money changing.

01:14:54.000 And of course, the important thing I think that we've lost in this whole concept is if you talk to the average person about the militia, they do give you what I would call the stereotypical answer, oh, that's the National Guard.

01:15:06.000 Well, the National Guard wasn't formed until it actually began in 1903.

01:15:09.000 That was the first statute, the so-called Dick Act, that was passed.

01:15:12.000 So it's about 150 years removed from the actual constitutional militia.

01:15:18.000 But the main problem that I see is people have forgotten their important role in maintaining ultimate democratic control over this government.

01:15:28.000 And as a result of that, one of the things, of course, that happened was the development over a long period of time, but finally culminating in 1913 with the Federal Reserve System, where once again an elite group gained control of one of the two basic powers of government.

01:15:44.000 All political philosophy will tell you the two great powers of government are the power of the purse and the power of the sword.

01:15:50.000 And they have gained control over the power of the purse through the Federal Reserve System, and the power of the sword in the hands of the people where it should be, according to the Second Amendment, has essentially atrophied.

01:16:02.000 So now the people are looking to these homeland security agencies, whether they're local police or state police or federal agencies, and they are not seeing themselves as the source of their ultimate security.

01:16:16.000 So now we have the two things coalescing.

01:16:18.000 Because the Federal Reserve System, as any good economist would have predicted, people such as yourself and I have been predicting this for decades, going back with me into the 1970s, it is collapsing because it's inherently unstable.

01:16:32.000 This is not a system that can be maintained in the long run.

01:16:35.000 And we are about to see homeland security problems of a very significant form and spread throughout the country.

01:16:44.000 And at that point, the security responses or the responses to these problems should be coming from the people themselves.

01:16:54.000 But what's happening is that the same group in control of the Federal Reserve System is dictating to us the method by which the problems which it has created Are going to be quote-unquote solved by it and its friends.

01:17:10.000 And Doctor, Doctor, if I can just interject and get your take on this as you continue laying this out.

01:17:16.000 They premeditatedly with problem, reaction, solution, and they state this, knew this.

01:17:20.000 They know their system is going to cause this depression.

01:17:24.000 They know it's going to cause civil unrest and rioting, and then the public will beg for troops and federalization on the streets, and then that will set the precedent they believe forever for the full final conversion to the tyranny.

01:17:39.000 Well, I think there's no question that they understand the fragility of this system.

01:17:45.000 also no question in my mind that they intend to use any kind of, let's not even call it catastrophic event, but serious economic dislocation to advance further steps in their political agenda.

01:17:45.000 I think it is.

01:17:58.000 What I am wondering is whether the system is not getting out of control.

01:18:02.000 I think it is.

01:18:03.000 I think it is.

01:18:04.000 And I think that's why it's vitally important, because now if that is the case, if it politically and economically is getting out of their control in a real sense, now is the opportunity for the American people to step up and reassert their own control over this system.

01:18:21.000 And speak to the microcosm of that.

01:18:24.000 The police admit they have no right or duty to protect you.

01:18:29.000 They have no liability to protect you.

01:18:31.000 Then how dare Chicago and D.C.

01:18:32.000 then say you have no right to protect yourself?

01:18:35.000 This is a basic, God-given or organic logos, law of the universe, that any creature has a right to defend itself, even if some dictator says you don't have the right.

01:18:46.000 And so we now have to say, look, we are going to defend ourselves whether you like it or not, because you can't and won't defend us.

01:18:54.000 Well, I think that's exactly correct.

01:18:55.000 And it's especially the can't aspect of this.

01:18:58.000 Even if they wanted to, Even if you believe that those 20,000 troop deployments that they're thinking about, in their own minds, might be sufficient.

01:19:08.000 We know that they can't be.

01:19:10.000 Given the kind of social breakdown that may occur as a major economic crunch takes over.

01:19:17.000 They simply don't have the manpower.

01:19:20.000 They simply don't have the level of training.

01:19:22.000 They simply don't have the ability to deploy people into all of the areas of this country where serious economic and social dislocations may take place.

01:19:30.000 And then what are they going to do about essentially economic reconstruction?

01:19:35.000 Troops!

01:19:36.000 I don't care how many you have.

01:19:37.000 Troops are not the appropriate method for dealing with that problem.

01:19:40.000 That has to be dealt with by local people themselves reconstructing their own economies, using alternative currencies when Federal Reserve notes are no longer acceptable internationally and probably domestically as well.

01:19:53.000 Dealing with their own questions of local police.

01:19:56.000 And if we the people ourselves in our own localities don't take that system, that situation in hand, Things are going to get out of hand very quickly.

01:20:04.000 They can't be controlled from the top down.

01:20:06.000 Dr. Vieira, stay there.

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01:24:15.000 All right, let's go right back to our guest, Dr. Edwin Vieira.

01:24:29.000 Sir, what are the best websites?

01:24:30.000 I know you write for NewsWithViews.com.

01:24:32.000 I know you have some of your own sites, some of the publisher's sites.

01:24:35.000 Where should people go to visit to find out more about your important work?

01:24:40.000 Well, one that we're working on now is called CommitteesOfSafety.com, which is actually a group that's centered in Connecticut.

01:24:49.000 And trying to develop a template for what I call the revitalization of the constitutional militia of the several states.

01:24:56.000 Isn't that the ancient name of the groups that would manage the militias?

01:25:02.000 I think that's why it was chosen.

01:25:02.000 You got it.

01:25:06.000 Because what we need to do is to go back and get citizens organized.

01:25:10.000 Let's speak to that before you leave.

01:25:12.000 This is a short segment.

01:25:12.000 statutory plans, because it really has to be done if it's going to be done in a properly constitutional format at the state level.

01:25:18.000 Well, let's speak to that before you leave.

01:25:21.000 This is a short segment.

01:25:22.000 We've got the rest of the hour, but I wanted to bring up the ancestral almost memories, if you want to call it that, or our instincts as Americans.

01:25:29.000 Were you heartened by seeing all-time record gun sales when Obama was elected at the end?

01:25:34.000 As you know, for the audience, he is for gun bans.

01:25:36.000 He says that's reasonable, and his lawyers speak.

01:25:39.000 I mean, is that not a good sign that the people fundamentally, and even a lot of liberals I know are now buying guns, realize... Sure.

01:25:47.000 In two ways, Alex.

01:25:48.000 Number one, it shows a fundamental distrust of this centralized governmental system and a denial of the belief that Mr. Obama is actually going to change things.

01:25:58.000 I think that's healthy.

01:25:59.000 Let's be realistic about the political world in which we live.

01:26:02.000 And number two, it's a recognition to the point that you made that in the final analysis, if we are not going to defend ourselves, then we are not going to be defended.

01:26:11.000 That's the very short answer.

01:26:13.000 We have to provide our own homeland security, our own security of a free state, because if we don't, even our local police, and let's assume that we can, you know, trust those folks that they're acting in good faith, they are simply not capable, institutionally, of providing this level of security that we're going to need.

01:26:30.000 If we don't do it, we're not going to have it.

01:26:33.000 Well, also the modern police configuration is not the swashbuckling real tough guys that were locally controlled we had in the past that could deal with things.

01:26:42.000 It is a classic, you know, cover their butt in their little armored citadels whenever a real crisis happens.

01:26:48.000 Well, that's another one of the problems.

01:26:49.000 I think institutionally they have other difficulties on top of this.

01:26:53.000 But even if you assumed this earlier model, it still wouldn't function given the level of problems that we're going to be facing.

01:27:01.000 So we have to come back once again to the realization that self-government requires your and my participation.

01:27:07.000 Self-government is not a spectator sport, and ultimately self-government has this most important power behind it, the power of the person.

01:27:16.000 I hate quoting this guy, but he was correct because he says the same thing as the Second Amendment, somewhat different language.

01:27:22.000 Mao Zedong, what did he say?

01:27:24.000 Political power goes out of the barrel of a gun!

01:27:27.000 Right?

01:27:27.000 Yes.

01:27:27.000 The people who have that ultimate military power are the ones who are going to determine the political structure and operations of their society.

01:27:37.000 And if it isn't the people themselves, we the people, who control that power, as the Second Amendment says we should and must, Then that governing power will fall into the hands of someone else and we will not like the result.

01:27:49.000 It is immediately forfeited to the tyrant, always in history.

01:27:53.000 The outcome is always the same and that's why I hope the listeners out there realize this and spread the word because if we're not involved politically and don't demand our sovereign rights, then that vacuum will be filled with the parasites. 0.64

01:28:06.000 That's exactly right.

01:28:08.000 If you don't demand your rights by actually exercising them, it's not simply a matter of going to legislators and saying, oh, please do this or please do that.

01:28:16.000 A well-regulated militia requires your participation.

01:28:20.000 And if you won't do that, then your rights are simply going to go away, one way or the other.

01:28:23.000 And on the other side of the coin, we see the tyrants exercising unconstitutional classic despotism to set the precedent and acclimate the public.

01:28:33.000 So they are practicing looting.

01:28:35.000 They are practicing tyranny.

01:28:36.000 They are practicing warrantless wiretaps against the American people and then flaunting it.

01:28:40.000 That's right.

01:28:41.000 We don't have to encourage them in that activity.

01:28:43.000 They'll do that spontaneously. 0.81

01:28:45.000 We have to get ourselves out of those chairs, out of those sofas, turn off those televisions, and get active in the political realm of self-government in order to have the kind of homeland security that we need, which the Constitution tells us is the only one worth having.

01:28:59.000 The security of a free state!

01:29:01.000 What's the point of having homeland security in a police state?

01:29:06.000 Is that security?

01:29:07.000 Of course it's the exact opposite of security!

01:29:10.000 Sir, you've had a lot of foresight with your predictions.

01:29:12.000 We're going to break here in a moment, but come back in a long 15-minute segment, or longer.

01:29:18.000 I would like you to break down how you believe this will unfold versus how you wish it would unfold, or different avenues, different ideas of where you see this going, and solutions.

01:29:31.000 that I know you're working on feverishly that people can get involved in now to counter this as we go deeper down this rat hole.

01:29:39.000 Any other websites that listeners should check out?

01:29:42.000 Well, I'm going to be putting up some more material on my edwinviera.com, which is really just a holding place right now.

01:29:52.000 And so as these things come out, probably I'll be announcing them in columns on News with Views and we'll get the word out as I'm developing it.

01:29:59.000 Alright, stay there.

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01:33:55.000 Dr. Edwin Vieira is our guest.

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01:34:07.000 Okay, we've got about 27 minutes left with you, sir, and I've thrown out all my points.

01:34:12.000 Just key areas of where you see this going, how we counter it, how we fight it, how you see it unfolding, and what the people need to do.

01:34:19.000 And if you want to Well, let's start at the end.

01:34:30.000 If we don't take some appropriate action, we are going to see first the imposition of a financial police state in this country, because that's the only way they're going to be able to bring control out of the chaos that the breakdown of the Federal Reserve System is causing, and maintain their own power.

01:34:44.000 I mean, that's obvious.

01:34:45.000 That's the key.

01:34:46.000 They need to maintain their own power.

01:34:48.000 And then that may morph, if you will, into some kind of regional governmental structure.

01:34:54.000 Which will be the rationalization for creating a new regional currency.

01:34:58.000 They floated names like the Amaro, or if you want to go to a higher level, the Phoenix was floated a few years ago.

01:35:04.000 And obviously that will be, if you follow the historical trends in this, that will be the method that they'll attempt to use to expand and maintain their control over the monetary system.

01:35:15.000 Alright, so that's their plan in a sense.

01:35:17.000 I'll leave that aside.

01:35:18.000 They're going to do what they're going to do.

01:35:21.000 We have to respond to this.

01:35:24.000 In our own way.

01:35:25.000 Our immediate problem is, of course, the breakdown of the monetary system, because that's where the great wave, almost a tsunami of economic and social chaos is going to develop.

01:35:35.000 Now, it certainly would be possible if we could, in Congress, in principle, pass some of the legislation that Ron Paul has proposed for ending the Federal Reserve System.

01:35:46.000 Very, very unlikely, obviously, with the Obama administration and a Democratic Congress.

01:35:51.000 It's certainly possible to be able to do something like that on a smaller scale at a state level.

01:35:56.000 I have, in fact, drafted a bill originally from New Hampshire.

01:36:01.000 It's on a website called goldmoneybill.org, and it can be applied with a little bit of appropriate tweaking to almost any other state for gradually bringing the state finances, and then one would hope as a consequence of that, a large segment of the state's private economy back to a sound a large segment of the state's private economy back to a sound gold and silver As far as I know now, there are three or four states where there are some legislators who are actively considering that, and we're hoping.

01:36:28.000 And there are some cities that have their own paper script now popping up in neighborhoods.

01:36:33.000 We could see that happen as well.

01:36:36.000 So there are a number of possibilities there as people begin to think about the use of alternative currencies.

01:36:41.000 The thing that worries me a little bit is that we don't have a sufficient basis in public education so that the large percentage of the population simply doesn't have any idea about this alternative.

01:36:52.000 They don't seem to understand even that it's really necessary.

01:36:55.000 They'll kind of hold on to the Federal Reserve System until the whole house of cards crashes down on their heads.

01:37:00.000 So we need public education, number one, in that area.

01:37:02.000 And then number two, We really do have to be prepared for the possibility, if it's not the likelihood, that this monetary system will in fact come down in the short term.

01:37:12.000 And if you're looking at the prognostications, I hate to make prognostications.

01:37:17.000 But I would say, my gosh, 18 months to two years at the outside before we see some massive inflationary events and perhaps a large segment of the world bailing out of the Federal Reserve System, refusing to accept the Federal Reserve currency as it were.

01:37:31.000 Well, even the economist is coming out and saying we're in a depression already.

01:37:36.000 Well, there's the depression and then hyperinflation on top of that, so you have the worst of all possible worlds.

01:37:41.000 You have a breakdown of the currency simultaneously, and that leads to social dislocation on a mass scale.

01:37:41.000 Hyperinflation.

01:37:47.000 So assuming that that's coming, and assuming that we can't move in the direction of an alternative currency fast enough to mitigate that or prevent that kind of a collapse, well, what's the next step that we need to be prepared for?

01:38:01.000 Well, that's providing the security Of a free state that is going to be necessary to overcome these dislocations, especially at the local and state level.

01:38:10.000 And that's why for several years now, tied into this prediction, I think not much of a prediction, it's obvious, that the monetary system is coming down, is the necessity for people to organize themselves at the state level to cause the state legislatures to pass the appropriate statutes to revitalize their state militia, because under the Constitution, The militia are described as the militia of the several states.

01:38:37.000 This is a state institution in each state.

01:38:40.000 We're talking about a basic concept of federalism here.

01:38:43.000 We're not top-down, but bottom-up organization.

01:38:46.000 Doctor, I want you to go into that in detail, but let me just add a little caveat to get your take on it because it's so important.

01:38:52.000 As you know, but the listeners may not, Homeland Security has announced, NORTHCOM has announced, Secretary of Defense Gates has announced what we saw them setting up quietly decades ago and coming to a head now in 2008-2009.

01:39:05.000 They are absorbing the National Guard from the Governor's control as a full federal force and it says the Governors will quote, serve at federal pleasure as dual-headed commanders.

01:39:17.000 Under federal control.

01:39:18.000 So you're saying go back to true localism, which can provide the real security, but instead they're trying to evolve in the opposite direction towards the crossing the Rubicon classic imperial national police force.

01:39:33.000 Oh, exactly, and what this proves is that the National Guard, and of course I'm not against the National Guard in principle, but the National Guard is not the constitutional militia.

01:39:41.000 If it were the constitutional militia, not only would all of the officers be appointed solely by the states, but there would be no way that this instrument could be federalized, as it were, except for three very specific federal purposes, executing the laws, suppressing insurrections, and repelling invasions.

01:39:59.000 So what we're looking at here is just the proof positive of the fact National Guard is an adjunct of the regular armed forces.

01:40:05.000 So we really don't have a constitutional militia structure, I think, in any state that I'm aware of.

01:40:11.000 There are a few states that have some kind of truncated militia structure still in existence.

01:40:17.000 New York may be one.

01:40:18.000 They call it the New York State Guard.

01:40:20.000 I think Texas has something similar.

01:40:22.000 Alabama?

01:40:23.000 Alabama.

01:40:24.000 But they're a very small number.

01:40:25.000 A very small number.

01:40:26.000 I think in New York it's 60,000 members.

01:40:29.000 And it's supposed to be, constitutionally, every able-bodied man and now today, potentially every able-bodied woman would have some.

01:40:36.000 And as you know, now Homeland Security has been coming in and recruiting and using them and directing the State Guards.

01:40:43.000 So we have another problem there because of this constant emphasis on top-down, centralized control coming out of Washington, D.C.

01:40:43.000 Oh, that's right.

01:40:51.000 So we have to reverse that.

01:40:52.000 We have to reverse it for a number of reasons.

01:40:54.000 First, because that's not the mechanism that's going to provide us with a free state.

01:40:58.000 But secondly, it's not the mechanism that's workable if we have a major economic breakdown.

01:41:03.000 Evidence by Katrina.

01:41:06.000 That's right.

01:41:06.000 Evidence by Katrina, which was a predicted breakdown.

01:41:09.000 They knew what was coming, and they weren't capable of dealing with it.

01:41:12.000 If we're talking about an economic breakdown as the result of a collapse of the whole monetary and banking system, nobody can predict how far that will go, how difficult it will be to set up alternative economic structures in the localities, what kind of resources will be available.

01:41:27.000 That certainly cannot be done by Even if you assume that the Homeland Security operation was run by people of eminent goodwill, as Madison said, if your government were run by angels, right?

01:41:38.000 It still could not perform the function necessary simply because it doesn't have the manpower, doesn't have the information, doesn't have access to the people.

01:41:46.000 And even if they were logistical masters, they couldn't do it?

01:41:49.000 No, they couldn't possibly do it.

01:41:50.000 We're talking about what used to be called the problem of rational economic calculation in terms of socialistic central management.

01:41:56.000 That's the problem they would be facing.

01:41:58.000 So we have to go in this opposite direction.

01:42:00.000 The Constitution has been telling us this since 1787 and 1791.

01:42:05.000 Apparently we haven't learned the lesson.

01:42:06.000 Now we're facing the problem.

01:42:07.000 So what I've been proposing to people, and I have a book out, it's called Constitution.

01:42:12.000 You can go and find it on Amazon.

01:42:14.000 Oh, and by the way, Alex, if people go there, don't worry if it says there's only one or two copies.

01:42:19.000 That's some kind of glitch in the way they run that system.

01:42:21.000 Stop there! 0.91

01:42:22.000 Your phone cut out.

01:42:23.000 Dr. Vieira, your phone cut out when you plugged the name of the book.

01:42:27.000 Constitutional Homeland Security.

01:42:30.000 Constitutional Homeland Security.

01:42:31.000 That's the important word.

01:42:32.000 CONSTITUTIONAL Homeland Security.

01:42:34.000 Not the kind of Homeland Security they're giving us from Washington.

01:42:37.000 By the way, I have read some of that.

01:42:40.000 I haven't had a chance to read the whole book.

01:42:42.000 I need to carry that on our online bookstore at InfoWars.com.

01:42:45.000 I need to contact you.

01:42:46.000 We're always looking for the best creme de la creme material to carry at InfoWars.com.

01:42:52.000 But please continue.

01:42:53.000 Okay, we can certainly do that, but in any event, the purpose of the book is to... I wouldn't call it a solution, necessarily, because it's experimental in a sense.

01:43:02.000 It's to provide a direction, and the program is for people to begin organizing local advocacy groups.

01:43:10.000 I call them Citizens Homeland Security Associations, the fellows in Connecticut call it the Committees of Safety, whatever word you want to use.

01:43:17.000 These are not, quote, militia groups, unquote.

01:43:21.000 They are First Amendment advocacy groups, the purpose of which is to educate the local community, come up with basically ideas of what needs to be done in your own locality, in your own state, the specific problems of Homeland Security that have to be addressed, develop a statutory plan, and I suppose at some stage, in fact right now I'm drafting a statute for Virginia, People such as myself would become involved in the drafting of statutes.

01:43:47.000 Interact with those state legislators who have some insight and vision in this area.

01:43:52.000 They get the legislation introduced and then enacted.

01:43:56.000 And the big selling point of this kind of organization is twofold.

01:43:59.000 Number one, once you have people organized this way, you can put a great deal of pressure on the state legislature.

01:44:05.000 Because you're talking about potentially several thousand people who are out there affirmatively asking for this kind of legislation.

01:44:12.000 And then number two, To make the legislation work will require initially a fairly large contingent of volunteers to step into the breach, as it were, because most people out there will need a fair amount of education before they're ready to take on the duties of a proper constitutional militia.

01:44:30.000 So we're going to have to depend upon volunteers.

01:44:33.000 And once a large segment of the population has been organized this way, There's the ultimate selling point to the legislator.

01:44:39.000 You put this in, you get this passed.

01:44:41.000 It's not pie in the sky.

01:44:43.000 We have 5,000 people in the state of Virginia ready to take on some of these responsibilities and show that this can be done.

01:44:50.000 And once that experiment has been conducted successfully, and I believe it can be, Then thousands and thousands of others are going to want to come into this process, because as the crisis develops and they see that the serious consequences are impinging on their lives, what will their alternative be, Alex?

01:45:09.000 They'll either do this, or they'll be at the mercy of God knows what!

01:45:12.000 Alright, let me stop you there.

01:45:14.000 I've got two points that are questions for you.

01:45:17.000 Let me just make the statement.

01:45:19.000 You can start at the front or the end or the middle.

01:45:21.000 I'm not for concealed carry in Texas and Florida, but that's kind of the system, its way of training us to turn a right into a privilege, but it can also be seen in its working model as 25 on average percent crime reductions within two years in states, those are federal numbers as you know, but for the audience, where it's implemented.

01:45:44.000 So there's a model where that is at least in the right direction towards a militia, Where even this gun-grabbing system that wants a monopoly of power has been forced through the will to at least try to remove some prohibition on people who are armed out in the public.

01:46:04.000 So that's a basis already in the true militia and going back towards the roots.

01:46:10.000 Now that's one point.

01:46:13.000 Then separately back to what you're saying about creating this idea, this alternative, having the legislation there.

01:46:20.000 I had the idea right after the Patriot Act passed, and I wrote an analysis of it, and people picked up on it and wrote it up, and 800 plus cities passed it, seven states.

01:46:28.000 The last time I checked was throwing out the Patriot Act in counties and cities, and then the feds said, well, we're the feds, you can't do that.

01:46:34.000 That was decided after the Civil War.

01:46:36.000 And we said, it doesn't matter.

01:46:37.000 This is, again, moving back towards Tenth Amendment, regardless of what you say.

01:46:41.000 And we are declaring that locally, the sense of the city councils, the county commissions, the local governments, the parishes, the states, that we rebuke what you're doing, and we're going to order our police and others not to follow unconstitutional orders, and look at how successful that was.

01:46:59.000 So again, more evidence of what you're saying truly codified back into law, with its constitutional precedent, how powerful that could be.

01:47:08.000 So those two points.

01:47:10.000 Well, I think you're absolutely right.

01:47:11.000 Let's take those in reverse order.

01:47:13.000 Remember that The militia of the several states are constitutional institutions.

01:47:19.000 The Constitution recognizes these things.

01:47:22.000 So there is no superiority of the federal government over the militia of the several states.

01:47:27.000 Quite the opposite.

01:47:29.000 The Tenth Amendment also and the Second Amendment quite obviously reinforce that.

01:47:33.000 But right in the body of the Constitution itself, these institutions are recognized as pre-existing the Constitution and as being intended to Continue in existence thereafter.

01:47:44.000 Secondly, your point about the concealed carry licenses, I would say as well, and I agree with you, that the concealed carry license, the only one you need is the Second Amendment, but we do have these provisions that have been put in, and as a result of them, a lot of people who would not in the past have been able to use a firearm to protect themselves have been enabled by this legislation.

01:48:06.000 What I do in one of the draft bills that I'm working on is build on that and say, alright, Those people who come into the malicious structures with concealed carry permits, the ones who have already been gone through the vetting and the FBI check and all the rest of it, so we know that they're not criminals or whatever, those people will be given further authority as some kind of deputy sheriff or deputy police or what have you, depending on the jurisdiction, so that they will now participate directly

01:48:33.000 In crime control, crime deterrence, crime prevention, crime apprehension.

01:48:37.000 So all of a sudden now, instead of having, you know, 50 police in Warren County where I live, or 60 sheriff's deputies, it all of a sudden becomes 2,000 of them.

01:48:48.000 And now we begin to expand not simply the concept that you have a right of self-protection, have a firearm for self-protection, but you can expand that right to participation in actual execution of the laws.

01:48:59.000 And the posse is reborn.

01:49:00.000 Let me bring up two sub-points there.

01:49:03.000 We have the demonization, though, of this ancient basic right, you know, going back to the Dutch or the Swiss or, you know, back to other nations before that, of the local people in the village, you know, protecting their community.

01:49:16.000 We have this federal demonization of the idea of malicious or armed citizens.

01:49:21.000 The monopoly of power can only be to the overarching federal super-state.

01:49:25.000 That's A. How do you deal with the fact that they've tried to create a taboo idea like it's pornography or something and then a subset they know this natural instinct uh... for self-defense and individual control so the feds are creating the false militia under homeland security in this million man domestic security force federally directed with an anti-american agenda Well, number one, I don't think that that is going to be successful.

01:49:49.000 They're not going to be able to put that thing together, or to the extent they put something together, it's not going to be proved to be terribly functional.

01:49:56.000 In terms of the demonization, I always ask somebody who looks sideways when I mention the word militia, I say, well, what other provisions of the Constitution do you disagree with?

01:50:05.000 Yes.

01:50:06.000 You know, I don't agree with the word militia as necessarily the free state.

01:50:08.000 What kind of state do you want to live in?

01:50:11.000 You know, you want to live in an unfree state?

01:50:12.000 The Constitution has taught... This is a statement of constitutional law!

01:50:15.000 This isn't some kind of hortatory pronouncement!

01:50:18.000 This isn't some kind of an opinion of James Madison!

01:50:21.000 I take most of his opinions to be more or less correct.

01:50:23.000 This is the great canon!

01:50:25.000 This is the great canon!

01:50:26.000 This is the great law!

01:50:28.000 This is part of the Great Red!

01:50:29.000 That's right!

01:50:30.000 It's part of the structure of our fundamental law, and it makes a declaration that I think is pretty emphatic.

01:50:36.000 A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state.

01:50:40.000 Just stop right there! 1.00

01:50:41.000 If you don't have this structure, the Constitution itself is telling you, you, in the long run, are not going to live in a free state.

01:50:49.000 Well, what kind of state do you want to live in?

01:50:50.000 And the right of the people!

01:50:51.000 The people!

01:50:52.000 The people!

01:50:53.000 And who are they?

01:50:56.000 We the people!

01:50:58.000 The people are us.

01:51:01.000 We are the people.

01:51:03.000 And if we don't have a right to be armed, we are slaves.

01:51:05.000 Only slaves are disarmed. 0.96

01:51:07.000 First gun laws against blacks, Native Americans. 1.00

01:51:10.000 Slaves are disarmed in Rome. 0.99

01:51:11.000 Slaves are disarmed in China.

01:51:13.000 We'll be right back.

01:51:14.000 Final segment with Dr. Edwin Vieira.

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01:54:15.000 Final segment with Dr. Edwin Vieira. - Come.

01:54:33.000 Google his name, find out more, read his stuff at newsreviews.com.

01:54:36.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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01:54:46.000 This is the great contest.

01:54:48.000 We've had tyranny breeding through the central bank in this nation for more than 90 years.

01:54:53.000 Now they're attempting to fully overthrow the Magna Carta, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, our basic common law, the greatest ever developed by man in our history.

01:55:06.000 You are defenders of the Republic.

01:55:09.000 Stand with us.

01:55:10.000 Become informed.

01:55:12.000 Don't look for orders from headquarters.

01:55:14.000 Get out there and take action.

01:55:16.000 Or be usurped and enslaved.

01:55:20.000 The choice is yours.

01:55:24.000 Dr. Vieira, we've got about four minutes left.

01:55:28.000 You've got the floor.

01:55:29.000 Any closing comments or points that you need to relay to the millions of viewers and listeners?

01:55:34.000 Well, I'm glad you said don't take orders from headquarters, because the opposite of that is, of course, we are the headquarters.

01:55:40.000 We the people, three most important words in the Constitution.

01:55:44.000 If we don't exercise self-governmental authority, then essentially everything is lost.

01:55:50.000 And the only thing I would suggest to people, because I'm trying to get out, as I say, this message on revitalizing what I consider to be one of, if not the most important pillars of our constitutional structure, the militia of the several states.

01:56:02.000 Take a look at that book, Constitutional Homeland Security, as I say, it's on Amazon, and I hope Alex will end up being on one of your websites as well.

01:56:10.000 And you're quarterbacking this.

01:56:12.000 You're a great scholar.

01:56:13.000 You've won three times the Supreme Court.

01:56:16.000 This is a great salvo in the info war, in the fight for liberty.

01:56:20.000 People need to carry the ball. 0.68

01:56:22.000 Well, that's right.

01:56:22.000 First, they need to get informed.

01:56:24.000 Take a look at the book, take a look at my columns on news reviews, where I go into this in some detail, tying it into the banking and monetary system.

01:56:32.000 Become informed about these issues.

01:56:34.000 Decide for yourself whether this isn't something that's vitally important to be done.

01:56:38.000 If you agree with me that it is, get a copy of the book, sit down with some of your neighbors over coffee, and begin discussing how you're going to implement a local plan to get those state legislators off the ball and moving in the right direction.

01:56:51.000 Because that's the key.

01:56:52.000 Get control over that local political structure.

01:56:55.000 We can't control the federal government in Washington, D.C.

01:56:58.000 at the present time.

01:57:00.000 That's quite obvious.

01:57:01.000 Our only alternative then is to work at the local level, the state level, and that kind of work will serve us in very good stead if we find a system coming down on our heads through economic breakdown.

01:57:12.000 And sir, that's why, for the listeners, that's why they're moving to totally federalize the states, because they know that is the grassroots solution to remove this tyranny.

01:57:22.000 And we have open foreign banks under war powers.

01:57:25.000 Telling Congress that they're basically under martial law.

01:57:28.000 That's in mainstream newspapers now.

01:57:30.000 This thing is so illegitimate, all we have to do is point out the emperor has no clothes.

01:57:35.000 And the other side of that coin, though, of course, is that the window of opportunity that's open also will be closing.

01:57:35.000 That's right.

01:57:42.000 We will run out of time.

01:57:43.000 We cannot sit on our hands indefinitely because we are the ones that will make it happen or it will not happen.

01:57:49.000 That's the key.

01:57:51.000 And even if they bring in tyranny and try to block all of this, that's just more evidence for folks.

01:57:55.000 The founders, for as you know, the Committees of Correspondence, the Sons of Liberty, tried for decades to fix things peaceably.

01:58:03.000 Well that's right, and of course that's my goal.

01:58:05.000 We don't want to see the situation develop into any kind of violence, rioting, really that type of breakdown in social and economic affairs.

01:58:16.000 But the only way to deter that or prevent that from happening is by the American people themselves reasserting control over this system from the grassroots up.

01:58:27.000 That's the way we're going to avoid real chaos in this society.

01:58:31.000 And anyone who thinks that that's not the key to it, I think you're living in a dream world.

01:58:35.000 All history proves that.

01:58:36.000 If the people themselves don't take control of their own government, then they're going to be subject to whatever terrible things others want to foist on them.

01:58:45.000 It is the law.

01:58:46.000 It is the law of men, the law of nature, the law of nature's God.

01:58:50.000 Dr. Edwin Vieira, we salute you and thank you for spending time with us.

01:58:53.000 Thank you, Alex.

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02:08:26.000 Coming up at the bottom of the hour after Professor Chasidowski leaves us, breaking down the current geopolitical stuff going on in the Middle East and Israel with Gaza bombardment and the India-Pakistan situation.

02:08:38.000 I want to get his analysis on that.

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02:08:49.000 I don't believe this for a minute.

02:08:50.000 This is more possum playing, but the fact that they're having to do this is a big victory, so we'll talk about that.

02:08:55.000 Let's go directly to Professor Chossadowsky joining us from Canada.

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02:09:04.000 Sir, break down your take on what is really unfolding in the world right now, and is this Gaza situation the beginning of a wider conflict?

02:09:11.000 Is this the unpopular move by Obama when he goes into office?

02:09:15.000 Will he deploy U.S.

02:09:16.000 troops in the Gaza Strip and other areas?

02:09:21.000 Well, that's a very difficult question.

02:09:23.000 I don't think that the United States is going to deploy troops.

02:09:30.000 What is possible is that some of Israeli's Middle Eastern allies will participate in some kind of peacekeeping operation, which in effect is a form of interference I'm thinking specifically of Turkey.

02:09:52.000 Turkey and Israel have a very close military cooperation agreement.

02:09:58.000 They exchange intelligence.

02:10:01.000 They have joint military production.

02:10:03.000 So a country like Turkey would be more likely to intervene and would, of course, also have some acceptance by the local Palestinian population who are unaware of these Military intelligence ties.

02:10:22.000 The question is, what kind of stance will the Obama administration take upon assuming office?

02:10:29.000 I don't see a major shift in foreign policy.

02:10:32.000 There may be a shift in rhetoric, but I don't see a major shift in foreign policy.

02:10:36.000 What do you think the big surprise is?

02:10:38.000 And then let's break down Gaza. 0.71

02:10:42.000 Well, as you suggest, they now want to Cut Gaza into several strips, okay?

02:10:51.000 It's a pretty small area to start with.

02:10:53.000 It's siege.

02:10:54.000 We see a siege going on.

02:10:56.000 It's a siege.

02:10:58.000 And as I pointed out in my earlier article, this siege has been on the drawing board for quite a number of years.

02:11:09.000 And there are a number of events in recent history which have prepared for this siege.

02:11:15.000 One was the Assassination of Arafat, which led to this this breakup of the Palestinian movement and Palestinian authority, but also the the removal of all Jewish settlements from Gaza, which at the time, as you recall, was interpreted as a so-called victory for the Palestinian people.

02:11:38.000 And it was part of the so-called roadmap, the U.S.

02:11:42.000 sponsored roadmap to peace, et cetera, et cetera.

02:11:44.000 But in effect, what it was, was to create a prison territory, which you could not do if you had Jewish settlements on the inside of the prison. 0.66

02:11:55.000 So they had to, in a sense, they had to remove those settlements, and as a result now, that territory is surrounded.

02:12:04.000 It is an encampment.

02:12:05.000 It's barricaded.

02:12:07.000 But people are resisting.

02:12:11.000 We have evidence of that.

02:12:14.000 I think, of course, what bothers us tremendously is the grip that the Anglo-American, but I would say mainly American, because now in Europe this seems to be a slightly different slant. 0.92

02:12:30.000 But the grip that the U.S. media has on public opinion, where they present this invasion, the killings of civilians, children, the use of prohibited weapons, they present this as legitimate retribution they present this as legitimate retribution for the actions of Hamas, the rocket attack, without understanding the whole context, and without understanding

02:12:55.000 without understanding the whole context, and without understanding the asymmetry and Okay?

02:13:04.000 We're talking about 17 deaths in Israel over the last seven years.

02:13:09.000 And if you look on the Palestinian side over the same period, talking about more than a thousand deaths, And so, but people don't seem to be, they don't seem to understand that.

02:13:21.000 There's been 40 plus at the UN school alone today.

02:13:26.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:13:28.000 Absolutely.

02:13:28.000 And they're bombing schools, hospitals, universities.

02:13:37.000 And if this were to happen anywhere else in the world, Uh, it would be, it would be, you know, you'd already have a war crimes tribunal set up and so on and so forth.

02:13:48.000 Now, um, the people who have now, we're now suggesting Francis Boyle, professor of law, a good, good, uh, good friend and colleague of mine who, uh, who is now suggesting the formation of a, of a tribunal, a war crimes tribunal, um, to try the, The Israeli war criminals and their U.S.

02:14:12.000 counterparts.

02:14:13.000 Because this is not strictly an Israeli operation.

02:14:19.000 This is an international colonial operation.

02:14:21.000 And by the way, Mr. Boyle, who we've interviewed many times, he's written international treaties for the United States in the U.N., so he's very prestigious to be saying that.

02:14:31.000 Absolutely, yes.

02:14:32.000 No, he's a very distinguished lawyer.

02:14:35.000 And he has taken a stance on Palestine for quite a number of years.

02:14:41.000 But I think what people have to understand is that this operation is part of a plan which was established in the early 90s under the government of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

02:14:55.000 In fact, in 2001.

02:14:56.000 The 1948 option.

02:15:00.000 Well, well, there was a 1948 option, which is to is to expel the Palestinians. 0.96

02:15:06.000 But the actual process of attacking the territories, breaking them up, establishing proxy regimes was part of a plan which was called Justified Vengeance.

02:15:23.000 The title is interesting.

02:15:25.000 Justified Operation Justified Vengeance.

02:15:28.000 Now Operation Justified Vengeance was launched in 2001.

02:15:33.000 It was presented just after accession of Ariel Sharon to the position of Prime Minister.

02:15:41.000 It was presented by the Chief of Staff of the so-called Israeli Defense Forces under the title, quote, the destruction of the Palestinian Authority and the disarmament of all armed forces.

02:15:56.000 The term justified vengeance was was was there and it was commented at the time even by the by the US press.

02:16:05.000 And then we we understood that this plan was in fact it was it was designed by Mayor Dagan and Mayor Dagan was the national security advisor to Ariel Sharon during his election campaign.

02:16:25.000 He was then promoted to heading Mossad.

02:16:30.000 So he is the current head of Mossad.

02:16:33.000 They actually call him Dagan the Gun.

02:16:38.000 Dagan the Gun.

02:16:40.000 The Top Gun.

02:16:41.000 He's the top spy of Israel. 0.69

02:16:46.000 And so this Operation Justified Vengeance is also referred to as the Dagan Plan.

02:16:53.000 And the whole idea of the Duggan Plan of Operation Justified Vengeance is to say, we need the suicide attacks so that we can then enter on acts of retribution.

02:17:05.000 So that they would actually time, they would do scenarios.

02:17:11.000 They say, okay, there's going to be a suicide attack.

02:17:15.000 We want those suicide attacks to occur because then it gives us the pretext And the legitimacy to to bomb Gaza or the West Bank, you know, and we can use F-16s. 0.88

02:17:28.000 And they started using F-16 jets at the outset of the Dagan plan.

02:17:35.000 So what's happening today is very much part of a broader agenda.

02:17:41.000 Now, I recall that I, I mean, we've been, we've published several pieces on this Dagan Plan or Operation Justified Action.

02:17:50.000 Now, you've been reporting on it for years.

02:17:52.000 You've been very concerned.

02:17:53.000 Absolutely.

02:17:54.000 And the thing is, I went back to some of the writings that we had published, including the writings of Tanya Reinhardt, who is a professor of linguistics at Tel Aviv University.

02:18:05.000 She's actually a student of Noam Chomsky at MIT.

02:18:09.000 And she died under very mysterious circumstances a few years ago at age 50 or so.

02:18:16.000 And she predicted very well.

02:18:18.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:18:20.000 I mean, she looked into the whole issue of this Dagan operation.

02:18:25.000 There were other analysts, but essentially what was envisaged was an invasion, I'm quoting, quote, an invasion of Palestinian controlled territory.

02:18:34.000 by some 30,000 Israeli soldiers.

02:18:37.000 Now, they won't be able to do it with 30,000.

02:18:40.000 They'll need much more than that.

02:18:41.000 But the fact is that back in 2001, there was already an invasion plan.

02:18:48.000 There was already a process of, well, yeah, they want to disarm Hamas, but I think they also want to trigger a humanitarian disaster with a view to ultimately triggering the expulsion of the Palestinian population. 0.66

02:19:05.000 And where will they allow them to flee to?

02:19:07.000 Because Egypt isn't letting them in. 0.99

02:19:10.000 Will they flee to the sea?

02:19:12.000 They could flee to Jordan, they could flee to Egypt, they could come to some agreement with the Egyptians, because these are allies.

02:19:20.000 Egypt and Jordan are allies of Israel.

02:19:24.000 Again, I don't know, I don't want to make any predictions, but I'm just saying this 1948, as you said, the 1948 solution is expulsion, and it looks that they are creating conditions so horrendous that people can simply not survive. 0.88

02:19:47.000 Within their homeland.

02:19:48.000 I think that is the situation.

02:19:50.000 Well, this is total seeds cutting off the three major cities and circling them with troops into the ocean, gunboats, and then blasting all their tunnels.

02:19:57.000 They were bringing in emergency supplies.

02:20:01.000 So they're completely cut off and under heavy bombardment with their infrastructure, telecommunications, limited water and electrical systems being destroyed.

02:20:09.000 You have this giant high-tech military doing this.

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02:25:05.000 Okay, Professor, India, Pakistan, that clearly was staged.

02:25:09.000 A lot of evidence to that effect.

02:25:10.000 I had General Hamid Gul on and others to cover that a few weeks ago.

02:25:15.000 I want to get into that briefly, but first, putting a bow on this monstrosity, how do you see it unfolding?

02:25:22.000 How many months will the siege go before they break the back and try to start expelling the people there in Gaza? 1.00

02:25:30.000 That's very difficult to see at the moment.

02:25:35.000 If we recall back in 1999, the aerial bombardment of Yugoslavia went on for several months.

02:25:44.000 It started in March and they finished in June.

02:25:48.000 And I don't think that this operation will go on for a very long time.

02:25:54.000 But I mean, there's going to be urban warfare.

02:25:58.000 But it's very difficult to predict.

02:26:03.000 It's very difficult to predict because the Israelis are completely off onto something which is diabolical and they want to carry it through and they believe that they're right. 1.00

02:26:19.000 They have this self-righteousness.

02:26:24.000 I'm not providing a very That's a very coherent answer to a question.

02:26:29.000 Well, we've already seen more than a thousand injured, and what is it, up to like 500 dead now, and that's probably conservative numbers.

02:26:37.000 I mean, how many... it's just going to go on and on, and Israel doesn't care. 0.89

02:26:41.000 I saw a London Guardian article saying Obama doesn't know this is destroying his name, his silence.

02:26:47.000 Of course Obama knows.

02:26:49.000 Obama, I mean, his administration's headed up by a known Israeli operative, IDF person.

02:26:56.000 Absolutely.

02:26:57.000 Well, Obama is saying that he cannot act until he's President of the United States.

02:27:03.000 And I don't think that he would act any differently.

02:27:07.000 There might be a little bit of rhetoric thrown in.

02:27:10.000 Well, you know, he weighs in on everything else.

02:27:15.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:27:16.000 He's commenting on every other issue.

02:27:19.000 What do you expect Obama's stance to be once he's in there January 20th?

02:27:24.000 Well, I think that Obama is very clearly aligned with a Zionist, Israeli-Zionist agenda.

02:27:31.000 That's very clear in terms of the people he's appointed, in terms of his links to AIPAC.

02:27:38.000 He is, but at the same time he has, you know, he has this ability to present himself as a humanitarian spokesperson.

02:27:54.000 You know, some people have said that he is presenting a double image, you know, and in reality what he's doing is continuity.

02:28:07.000 It's the continuity of the Bush administration.

02:28:10.000 It's continuity in foreign policy.

02:28:12.000 He's keeping on Gates as Secretary of Defense.

02:28:19.000 Which means that, in effect, there's not going to be any major upheaval in the military.

02:28:24.000 Yeah, they're passing the baton, but as Kissinger said on CNBC yesterday, oh, the great image of him in the world.

02:28:30.000 We're going to be able to really get our agenda through with Obama.

02:28:33.000 I mean, he's cynically admitting it.

02:28:36.000 Absolutely.

02:28:37.000 Well, that is the whole idea, is that you get Obama, who is an African-American, who has Has the rhetoric to appeal to grassroots opinion in America, who has the support of people in Africa, because, you know, he has historical links to Kenya, and provides an image, but that image is false.

02:29:06.000 I'm trying to find a polite word, but it is phony.

02:29:10.000 It's a phony image.

02:29:12.000 It's the nice guy with the bad guy.

02:29:14.000 It's a cloaking device.

02:29:19.000 Bush, at least you could say he's more sincere because his image fits his job description. 0.68

02:29:26.000 Very, very arrogant and just said, I don't care.

02:29:29.000 Yeah, he says, I don't care.

02:29:31.000 But Obama will say deep down, he said, I don't care.

02:29:35.000 But up front, he'll say something else.

02:29:39.000 So, yeah, it's a policy of deceit.

02:29:44.000 And people didn't vote for that.

02:29:46.000 They voted for the rhetoric.

02:29:48.000 They voted because they thought that this was... Stay there.

02:29:51.000 Let's talk about India, Pakistan, and then the economy briefly when we get back.

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02:31:16.000 A day unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

02:31:23.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

02:31:26.000 But who is the enemy?

02:31:27.000 Bin Laden.

02:31:28.000 This is his ammo.

02:31:29.000 We have to look to the Middle East.

02:31:31.000 We have to look to Osama Bin Laden. 0.93

02:31:33.000 Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.

02:31:40.000 investigators believe that there are Israelis, again, very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.

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02:31:47.000 I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.

02:31:50.000 Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers' ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.

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02:33:31.000 Moving quickly here in our final segment with Professor Chastodosky.

02:33:35.000 I mean...

02:33:37.000 The India-Pakistan situation four weeks ago.

02:33:42.000 From your research, your group of researchers' analysis, do you see the same footprints of an orchestrated, staged, provocative event?

02:33:54.000 You're talking about... I'm sorry?

02:33:56.000 The Mumbai attacks.

02:33:57.000 Yes, of course, the Mumbai attacks.

02:34:00.000 Well, the Mumbai attacks was, I think, certainly a staged event.

02:34:10.000 It was intended to push Pakistan and India against one another. 0.96

02:34:18.000 It was perpetrated, I believe it was an intelligence operation.

02:34:28.000 The alleged terror groups behind these attacks are supported by Pakistani intelligence, the ISI, which in turn is in liaison with the CIA.

02:34:43.000 I think the purpose of these attacks was, in fact, to create a situation of conflict between two countries, which In recent months, we're actually moving together again.

02:34:56.000 And we saw the fake phone call, but they confirmed with a caller ID, so it wasn't a fake call, they claimed that, from the Indian Foreign Ministry to the Pakistani government saying, we're going to attack you, and then it almost caused a conflict, and now the troops are massing right when they were coming to reconciliation.

02:35:14.000 You have all the intelligence operatives involved, leading other terror attacks, absolutely.

02:35:20.000 Where do you see that going in the future?

02:35:23.000 Well, again, right from the outset of this event, Pakistan has started to amass troops along its border.

02:35:39.000 Again, it's very difficult to predict what might happen.

02:35:44.000 We're in very interesting times.

02:35:47.000 Yes, we're in very uncertain times.

02:35:51.000 But on the other hand, in both countries, there are people who understand these events.

02:35:58.000 In Pakistan, there are people in the government who understand that their own intelligence agencies are in fact involved in sabotaging the political process.

02:36:11.000 When I was reviewing the situation in Pakistan, one thing that came to my attention was that That the head of Pakistani intelligence was appointed with the approval of the United States, bypassing the civilian administration.

02:36:31.000 The government, and they had a whole series of military appointments.

02:36:35.000 Yeah, there's multiple governments within Pakistan itself.

02:36:39.000 In closing, in the three or four minutes we've got left with you, Professor, give us your basic bowl down on the economy, where it's going, the banks openly announcing world government of and by the Madoff-type banks, saying we'll pay carbon taxes to them.

02:36:52.000 Break that down and tell us about the conference coming up.

02:36:55.000 Well, it's easier for me to tell you about the conference in a very short period of time.

02:37:00.000 We're organizing an event.

02:37:02.000 It's the Center for Research on Globalization, which is based in Montreal, downtown Montreal.

02:37:08.000 We're organizing an event next Wednesday, Wednesday of next week, sorry, the 14th of January.

02:37:16.000 and the topic is on the financial crisis.

02:37:20.000 I will be the main speaker at that event.

02:37:23.000 And folks can find out more at globalresearch.ca.

02:37:26.000 Yeah, go to globalresearch.ca.

02:37:29.000 There are details as to where the event is being held, and you can always contact us by e-mail.

02:37:39.000 I know that a number of people are coming from out of town.

02:37:41.000 Okay, but in closing, in the few minutes, I've got three minutes left here, and we're going to move on.

02:37:45.000 We appreciate your time with us.

02:37:47.000 Briefly, the world economic crisis in two minutes.

02:37:50.000 Well, in two minutes, I'd focus on one issue which has not been addressed in any meaningful way, even by the critics, is that the handouts under the bailouts The various bailouts, not only the $700 billion, OK?

02:38:08.000 We're talking about something of the order of $8.5 trillion of handouts and loans secured by the Treasury or the Federal Reserve.

02:38:22.000 Now, what this implies is the following.

02:38:26.000 We're going to have a massive increase in the public debt.

02:38:30.000 In the United States, the public debt stands at something like $14 trillion.

02:38:35.000 But just if you look at the numbers, the public debt could increase by 25% overnight.

02:38:45.000 And this is occurring at a time when interest rates are virtually flat zero.

02:38:51.000 So who's going to want to buy government bonds and treasury bills when they're only going to get barely maybe 1% or even less?

02:39:00.000 So that you're in a situation where you need to finance these handouts to the banks even though you're going to have a bank.

02:39:07.000 You need to increase the public debt.

02:39:10.000 And to increase the public debt, you have to borrow from the banks, well, the recipients of the bailouts.

02:39:16.000 They're borrowing their own money and we're paying for it.

02:39:20.000 Exactly.

02:39:21.000 They get the money and we pay to give them the money.

02:39:24.000 Exactly.

02:39:25.000 And the other aspect of this is that If you can't increase, if you can't finance the deficit through the emission of public debt, you have to start slashing expenditures, every single category of expenditures, and you have to start privatizing government state assets and so on.

02:39:47.000 I suspect that is what's going to happen.

02:39:50.000 The irony is that those who are receiving the handouts are those who are also imposing the conditions as creditors of the state.

02:39:58.000 So the state, the US, Uh, government is financing its own indebtedness at expense.

02:40:04.000 of taxpayers.

02:40:06.000 Let's simplify that in closing.

02:40:08.000 It's so simple, it's hard for my mind to even grasp.

02:40:11.000 The private banks engineer this, then they say you've got to give us money to get credit flowing to Main Street.

02:40:16.000 They don't give any of it to Main Street to purposely implode it.

02:40:18.000 Then they give themselves $8.5 trillion just in the U.S. alone, tens of trillions worldwide from all the private central banks.

02:40:25.000 But that's all backed up with taxpayer money.

02:40:27.000 So we are going to pay them interest to give them the money to take over our economy.

02:40:36.000 Well, they are the brokers of the U.S.

02:40:39.000 public debt.

02:40:40.000 They don't hold all of the U.S. 0.89

02:40:42.000 public debt, but they are brokers, but they're also creditors.

02:40:45.000 So that, in effect, they are the recipients of the handouts and they are the creditors of the state to finance the money that they are going to receive.

02:40:59.000 So we're in a circular situation where the government is financing its own indebtedness through the handouts to the banks, who are also the creditors and the brokers of public debt and treasury bills.

02:41:12.000 This is a corporate hijacking, a corporate looting, a total takeover?

02:41:17.000 Absolutely.

02:41:18.000 Absolutely.

02:41:19.000 It's very serious.

02:41:20.000 So in any event, if people from the United States wish to join us in Montreal, it's only about an hour from the border, less than an hour from the From the New York State to New Hampshire, drive up to Montreal, and we will be very happy to receive anybody who comes from the United States.

02:41:37.000 Well, I wish I could join you.

02:41:38.000 We also have a lot of listeners on.

02:41:40.000 Yeah, well, you're a bit far off, but we'll... Okay, well... All right, thank you.

02:41:45.000 Take care, Professor.

02:41:46.000 Take care, Alex.

02:41:47.000 Greetings to everybody in Texas.

02:41:50.000 All right, thank you for spending time with us.

02:41:51.000 There goes the professor.

02:41:51.000 Take care.

02:41:54.000 Yeah, well, we have been making that point over and over and over again, and we made the point before the Banker Takeover Bill that it was a Banker Takeover Bill because the bill said it.

02:42:02.000 Total martial law, private foreign banks openly owning and running the government, and the Congress is bitching and complaining.

02:42:08.000 Even Federal Reserve Board governors in the United States have gone to the news and said, this is foreign banks.

02:42:14.000 This isn't even, you know, local governors of the Federal Reserve who were just titular heads over the private banks.

02:42:20.000 We're not even allowed to look at what's going on.

02:42:22.000 We've been told we're under martial law and we've had congressmen on the show to tell you that as well.

02:42:27.000 I mean, you can't make this stuff up.

02:42:29.000 I always say that because you can't.

02:42:31.000 This is totally insane.

02:42:33.000 This is absolutely, totally and completely off the charts by every yardstick.

02:42:39.000 This is nothing like this has ever been seen.

02:42:41.000 Normally the big private central banks go into Nigeria or Costa Rica or Brazil or Asian countries, and they've done it to hundreds and hundreds, sometimes over and over again in the same nation, and they'll go, here's a billion bucks paid for by American taxpayers mainly, about 60% of IMF World Bank money, but that's all just fiat as well, but it's backed up by the U.S.

02:43:04.000 military.

02:43:05.000 We'll give your corrupt dictator a billion bucks. 1.00

02:43:07.000 He keeps it for himself, leaves, and ten years later the country's paid back $50 billion, but never even touched the interest.

02:43:13.000 It's all interest.

02:43:14.000 Never getting down the principle.

02:43:18.000 This is even worse.

02:43:19.000 This is where the banks bankrupt everything, cut off liquidity to the public, have all the cash and liquidity hoarded to themselves, they openly buy up other banks' insurance companies, and buy off other corporations and other key infrastructure assets mainly, and then we have to pay tax money to them for the private Federal Reserve giving itself all our money.

02:43:48.000 I mean, that's just unbelievable.

02:43:51.000 And that's the point I make every day, every day, every day here.

02:43:56.000 And the public thinks it's bad that they're taking all this money.

02:43:59.000 We've got to pay it back in taxes, but they don't understand that the groups getting the money are the ones that we've got to pay interest to to give them the money.

02:44:11.000 That would be like if I had a car dealership and I sold you a $25,000 Mustang and I gave you the Mustang, and I paid you $25,000 to give you the Mustang.

02:44:25.000 Here, here's a Mustang, $25,000, brand new, fully loaded, and I'm giving it to you for free, and I'm going to pay you $25,000 to take it for free.

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02:45:00.000 And my concern is, if the scams are this crazy, this wild, this out in the open, what's coming next?

02:45:07.000 What's the new outrages?

02:45:09.000 I mean, what more could they come up with?

02:45:14.000 I want to get into this Trans-Texas Corridor is Dead, TxDOT says.

02:45:17.000 In fact, let's pull that up so we can just put it on screen for folks.

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02:47:34.000 What's up, Paul?

02:47:37.000 Go ahead and pop Trans-Texas Corridor up on the screen for folks and I'll... Yeah, that's another story out of... That's Ben Weir.

02:47:37.000 Oh, you got it.

02:47:47.000 That's out of the Austin American Statesman.

02:47:49.000 That's what I thought it was.

02:47:51.000 I've got KVUE.

02:47:54.000 That's the local ABC News affiliate as well with a similar headline.

02:47:58.000 Trans-Texas Corridor is dead, TxDOT says.

02:48:01.000 They told us two years ago that the toll roads were dead and the legislature passed a law saying they couldn't seize the roads and basically for one penny on the dollar or less give them to a foreign Spanish company.

02:48:14.000 The media responded by saying okay the toll roads are all dead as they put them in and opened them and Rick Perry said I'm just ignoring all that and they said they're no longer toll roads these are not toll roads these are pay-as-you-go lanes.

02:48:29.000 It's like Obama's Chief of Staff saying, well, you're going to have to serve in a new domestic military, 18 to 24, for basic training and then we'll keep you longer if we want.

02:48:40.000 You must do it under law.

02:48:40.000 And they go, well, this is then mandatory.

02:48:42.000 No, it's not mandatory, it's compulsory.

02:48:45.000 Mandatory and compulsory mean the same thing.

02:48:48.000 Look them up.

02:48:49.000 It's like saying, we don't want global government, we want global governance.

02:48:53.000 Governance means the system of government.

02:48:55.000 I mean, this is a joke.

02:48:56.000 It's like saying, You know, look, the sky is blue, and you say, no, that's not a sky, that's an atmosphere.

02:49:07.000 Same thing.

02:49:09.000 It's a game.

02:49:10.000 It's a word play.

02:49:13.000 That's like saying, that's a fire hydrant.

02:49:16.000 Somebody goes, no, that's a fire plug.

02:49:19.000 Whatever.

02:49:20.000 Trans-Texas Corridor is dead.

02:49:21.000 This is absolutely not true.

02:49:23.000 The national news, I've seen in clips in Fox saying Trans-Texas Corridor doesn't exist. 0.92

02:49:27.000 Ron Paul is insane.

02:49:29.000 The official documents say it's part of the Napa Superhighway. 0.91

02:49:31.000 They say, hey, it doesn't exist.

02:49:34.000 But here it is, they're playing possum, and that at least means they're in a lot of trouble.

02:49:37.000 And they're trying to get everybody to kind of go home and shut up.

02:49:40.000 The Texas Department of Transportation announced, this is truly a federal office, this morning, that it has officially killed the transit corridor, saying that despite the project's visionary aspects, like stealing land 10 miles on every side of the roads, that's only one leg of it, it was 8,000 miles.

02:49:54.000 It is clearly not the choice of Texans.

02:49:58.000 What is that little lying statement?

02:50:00.000 They've had Houston Chronicle polls and others, 99%.

02:50:04.000 Lou Dobbs had one, 99%.

02:50:05.000 They've had sign of it polls, 99% are against it.

02:50:08.000 But what are these guys? 0.87

02:50:09.000 They're all lies!

02:50:12.000 The Texas Department of Transportation announced this morning, has officially killed the Trans-Texas Corridor, saying that despite the project's visionary aspects, it's clearly not the choice of Texans.

02:50:23.000 I guess that is true, I was reading that wrong, that they're admitting.

02:50:25.000 Oh wow, something actually truthful, I couldn't believe it.

02:50:27.000 They're saying it's not the choice of Texans.

02:50:29.000 DMN file.

02:50:30.000 The announcement comes six years after Rick Perry shook up the state's transportation and political circles by unveiling an ambitious plan to stretch highway rail lines and utilities for hundreds of miles, that's 8,000, along Interstate 35 and Interstate 69 corridors, which is part of the Napa Superhighway corridors, 34 of them.

02:50:47.000 The plan, which would cost tens of millions of dollars and relied heavily on private toll roads, was hugely controversial.

02:50:52.000 Amando Saniz, Executive Director of TxDOT, made the announcement that the agency was giving up on the idea of the annual transportation forum in Austin.

02:50:59.000 Make no mistake, the transit corridor, as we have known it, no longer exists.

02:51:02.000 There it is.

02:51:03.000 Lawyers speak.

02:51:04.000 As we have known it.

02:51:06.000 Right there.

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02:57:01.000 affiliates that a lot of you are tuning into.

02:57:03.000 That's how we move the ball on the field.

02:57:05.000 That's how we inform people.

02:57:06.000 The solution is an awakening to what's happening.

02:57:09.000 Then the globalists can't misdirect us and control us.

02:57:12.000 Now, after four hours my voice starts getting tired.

02:57:16.000 Trans-Texas Corridor is dead, TxDOT says, but then the director of TxDOT, Amandio Cinez, Executive Director, says, make no mistake, the Transitions Corridor, as we have known it, no longer exists.

02:57:29.000 See?

02:57:30.000 As we have known it.

02:57:31.000 Just like they said, we're not doing toll roads anymore, and then they did them.

02:57:35.000 They want you to all just drop your baseball bats, your mitts, leave the game.

02:57:39.000 Oh, the game's over?

02:57:40.000 Oh, you didn't hear?

02:57:41.000 You know, the meeting was canceled.

02:57:42.000 Local governments always try this.

02:57:44.000 They know a public's coming in to protest something, they say, oh, we changed the meeting, and they go ahead and have the meeting.

02:57:49.000 Each of the dozens of projects that were linked together under the rubric of the TTC included the Loop 9 project in Dallas will remain as stand-alone projects, he said.

02:57:59.000 So, did you hear that?

02:58:00.000 Before I even read the article on air, I said, this is all bull.

02:58:02.000 You just handed it to me.

02:58:05.000 Just knocked my mic off to stand there.

02:58:06.000 I'm kind of out of control here, ladies and gentlemen.

02:58:09.000 And it says, each of the dozens of projects that were linked together under the rubric of TTC, including the Loop 9 project in Dallas and I-69 project in the South, will remain as stand-alone projects, he said.

02:58:18.000 And he goes on to say it's been diminished, but we recognize the inevitability.

02:58:22.000 The TCC is not the choice of Texans.

02:58:25.000 So they're saying, we're going to do them all standalone.

02:58:27.000 They're going to do them all separately, so it's harder to coordinate against it.

02:58:32.000 Compartmentalization.

02:58:35.000 Oh my goodness.

02:58:37.000 It's just so incredible.

02:58:38.000 Get the word out. 0.69

02:58:39.000 This is a fraud, a lie, a scam.

02:58:41.000 Continue fighting all of these individual projects.

02:58:44.000 We had a bunch of key guests up today.

02:58:47.000 Rebroadcast with Mike Rivero, Edwin Vieira, Michael Chossudovsky.

02:58:53.000 It's all coming up one place.

02:58:54.000 InfoWars.com with the restream right now.

02:58:56.000 We'll be back in one minute.

02:58:58.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

02:59:01.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

Alex Jones Show - January 06, 2009

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