Alex Jones Show - 20090130_Fri_Radio

00:00:04.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:20.000 No, they're live with you again.

00:00:27.000 It's not Alex Jones.

00:00:28.000 Alex is off today.

00:00:30.000 My name is Bob Dacey.

00:00:32.000 I'm an associate of Mr. Jones.

00:00:35.000 I write for Infowars.com every once in a while.

00:00:39.000 I'm a native Austinite.

00:00:41.000 I met Alex about, oh gosh, maybe 10 years ago, 11 years ago now.

00:00:46.000 And it's kind of funny, the thing that woke me up about the New World Order and all that was one of the hot topic issues right now.

00:00:55.000 Years ago I was just sitting at home watching television and I was bored and I started to do the old channel surfing thing and up pops this young punk named Alex Jones and he's talking about the United Nations and the National Park System and I thought he was a raving lunatic.

00:01:12.000 However, he shifted gears and started talking about the true meaning of the Second Amendment.

00:01:18.000 And so I was laughing at him and then I said, okay, I got to hear what he says about this.

00:01:22.000 This is going to be funny.

00:01:24.000 I know I have a, I'm in my business, which is a local hardware store here in town.

00:01:28.000 I actually have a federal firearms license.

00:01:31.000 I sell a few guns.

00:01:33.000 And so he was going to talk about the meaning of the second amendment.

00:01:36.000 So I was just laughing at the guy saying, okay, let's see what this nut ball says about second amendment.

00:01:41.000 So then he proceeded, I think it was 22, 23 years old.

00:01:45.000 He proceeded to, uh, Take it off perfectly.

00:01:48.000 Everything about the Second Amendment.

00:01:50.000 The facts, the history, the meaning, the context, original intent.

00:01:54.000 Perfectly. Everything.

00:01:56.000 So this got me in a quandary about why I could be such an idiot on the UN and completely write about the Second Amendment. 0.95

00:02:04.000 So I checked into what he had to say and sure enough he was right about the other thing too. 0.52

00:02:10.000 So that's what kind of got me started in this field.

00:02:14.000 I have a Years ago, I stumbled into hosting a TV show called A Simple Truth and that show is in Austin on Channel 10. It's at 6 o'clock on Monday nights if you're in the Austin area on Time Warner Cable.

00:02:28.000 If you're not in the Austin area, you can pick up the recordings of the show on a website that another volunteer put up.

00:02:37.000 It's www.simpletruthonline.net.

00:02:41.000 You've got to remember it's.net.

00:02:43.000 Because everybody tries dot com.

00:02:44.000 So it's www.simpletruthonline.net.

00:02:47.000 You can see our shows that we do every week down at the local cable access studio in Austin, Texas.

00:02:58.000 But anyway, we're talking about, you know, what's going on since, you know, I mean, what's been going on forever.

00:03:06.000 This gun issue.

00:03:08.000 And I know Alex has been talking about it quite a bit.

00:03:11.000 And I want to talk about it a little bit, give you my take on it.

00:03:14.000 I know that it's been a hot topic right now.

00:03:17.000 I mean, you have a bill introduced recently to make FEMA camps all over the United States.

00:03:25.000 That's great.

00:03:26.000 And the thing I like about that bill is, you know, the one-liner.

00:03:28.000 They always put a...

00:03:29.000 It's always for the children, you know.

00:03:31.000 It's always the so-and-so and such-and-such bill in order to save the children and make everyone's life happy and help the environment, comma, And for other purposes.

00:03:41.000 That's the thing you've got to worry about, is the and for other purposes.

00:03:46.000 And so, I want to give you kind of a history of some of the things these nutballs have proposed in the past. 0.86

00:03:53.000 You know, I mean, one thing you can, I guess, positively say about Republicans is that most of them are not openly anti-gun.

00:04:05.000 You know, most of your bubbas that are Republicans Or pro-Second Amendment, pro-individual right to keep and bear arms. 0.81

00:04:14.000 And your classic Democrat isn't, but he wishes he was.

00:04:20.000 But back when, before the Republicans held sway in the House and Senate, I mean, you should see some of the stuff that these nutcases have introduced into legislation.

00:04:34.000 They're trying to get bills passed in the United States Congress And when we get back from the break, I'm going to take you to a trip down memory lane here from one of the most egregious things they ever tried to pull.

00:04:46.000 This was a Senator Jack Reed, a Democrat from Rhode Island.

00:04:51.000 So we'll be right back after the break.

00:04:53.000 This is Bob Daisy for Alex Jones.

00:04:55.000 Thank you.

00:04:56.000 Thank you.

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00:08:01.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:08:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:14.000 Okay, once again, this is Bob Dacey substituting for Alex Jones today, and just so you'll know what we're planning on doing today before I get back into my gun thing.

00:08:24.000 We're planning on having Max Keiser on in the next hour.

00:08:28.000 He's that economist forecaster dude.

00:08:31.000 And then after that, Bob Chapman, who is the international forecaster, another economics guy.

00:08:37.000 And from two to three, we are supposed to have Kurt Nemo live in studio riding shotgun with yours truly.

00:08:44.000 And then actually, I think we're going to be playing a video in the last part of the show by, uh, My hip-hop artist by the name of KRS-One, something that they put together.

00:08:54.000 So you want to stay tuned for that, and that way maybe I'll be able to survive this four hours, you know?

00:09:01.000 Okay, now let's get back to this gun thing.

00:09:04.000 There's nothing new about the craziness of the legislation that these globalists and control freaks want to get done.

00:09:14.000 I have an article written, this was back in 2000, March 16, 2000, a fellow by the name of Stephan Archer writes this story.

00:09:24.000 A senator proposes that the IRS register and tax your guns.

00:09:29.000 If Senator Jack Reed, Democrat of Rhode Island, gets his way, the Internal Revenue Service will not only be the nation's tax collector, but its gun registrar.

00:09:39.000 Reed's new bill, entitled the Handgun Safety and Registration Act of 2000, would quote, amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to require the registration of handguns, end quote.

00:09:55.000 Handgun owners would also be forced to pay a $50 tax on all handguns they own.

00:10:01.000 A $50 tax on the transfer of ownership of a handgun would also be implemented.

00:10:08.000 Desmond Riley, spokesperson for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, you know, one of these gun-grabbing control freaks, says this.

00:10:16.000 This is a regulation, and I think Americans tend to embrace regulation.

00:10:20.000 It means people's lives will be saved, end quote, Riley said.

00:10:26.000 You know, I mean, this is not, I don't think this is the current thing, but this shows you the mindset of these nutballs.

00:10:33.000 I mean, I mean, you're sitting there figuring this out.

00:10:36.000 You know, you're out there and you're thinking, well, let's see.

00:10:39.000 What entity of the federal government scares the bejesus out of everybody more than any other entity?

00:10:45.000 I think the answer to that question is the Internal Revenue Service.

00:10:49.000 That makes people quake.

00:10:51.000 Well, wouldn't it be a good idea to have a law passed to require The American people to register their evil guns with the Internal Revenue Service.

00:11:02.000 Maybe that would scare them into doing it, right?

00:11:05.000 I mean, if your argument by this guy back then, Desmond Riley, is that, oh, it's just a regulation and Americans love to follow regulations, you know, if that's true, then I think they should probably pass regulations against the possession of knives and buckets and swimming pools and high school football.

00:11:26.000 You know?

00:11:27.000 Why not?

00:11:28.000 Why not?

00:11:28.000 You know, if you're going to do that.

00:11:30.000 Anyway, that bill, the reason I bring it up is because it illustrates the mindset of a bunch of nutballs. 0.94

00:11:39.000 And that's what anti-gun people are, is nutballs.

00:11:44.000 I have the bill itself here in front of me, and just looking at some of this transfer tax imposed on handguns, tax on making firearms, Imposed on handguns.

00:11:57.000 You know, make them so expensive no one can afford them.

00:11:59.000 Transition rule for non-registered handguns.

00:12:03.000 You have to, you know, treatment of registration as a transfer.

00:12:08.000 You see, can't you just see yourself, you know, sometime in the future, if the nutballs ever get something like this passed, you'd have your new 1040 form.

00:12:16.000 And it says, oh, 1040, section D-7.

00:12:22.000 New law requires you to pay a tax on all the guns you own.

00:12:25.000 Here, write the make, model, serial number of every single gun you own on this form.

00:12:30.000 Add up the number of guns you own.

00:12:31.000 Multiply by 50 and send in the money, bub.

00:12:35.000 Um, yeah.

00:12:37.000 Uh-huh.

00:12:37.000 I got a life-size picture of that.

00:12:43.000 The Secretary of the Treasury shall make available such a registration and fingerprint forms as may be required by the public for compliance for such requirements oh my goodness you know again these people are a bunch of nuts and that's all that's all there is to it okay now let's see what else we got here the other day Alan Corwin who is the author of the gun laws books you know I know I sold one of them in my store the hardware

00:13:13.000 store here in Austin Texas it's the Texas gun owners guide well he publishes gun owners guides for All the various states.

00:13:21.000 And he's put out this letter to send to everybody you know.

00:13:27.000 And let me just read from this.

00:13:29.000 I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity.

00:13:34.000 It's horrific.

00:13:35.000 They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers, and statutes in an all-out effort to restrict we the people.

00:13:44.000 They've made little mention of criminals.

00:13:47.000 Now, more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical.

00:13:52.000 Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble, and more.

00:14:02.000 In addition to the Second Amendment, the Democrats' current gun ban list proposal, the final list will be worse, is as follows.

00:14:11.000 Now, I'm not going to go through every one of these things, these guns that they want to ban.

00:14:15.000 Now that they got the House, the Senate, and this globalist puppet, lackey Obama, as the President.

00:14:25.000 Let's listen to some of these guns.

00:14:27.000 The Ruger Mini-14.

00:14:28.000 Oh, come on now. 0.98

00:14:30.000 They want to ban the Ruger Mini-14?

00:14:32.000 That's terrible.

00:14:33.000 That's been around forever.

00:14:35.000 You know, it's just like a combination between a You know, an M1 Garand and an M1A.

00:14:41.000 I mean, you know, it's old, you know.

00:14:43.000 What the heck?

00:14:43.000 What do they want to ban that for?

00:14:44.000 Because it's semi-automatic.

00:14:47.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:14:48.000 When you pull the trigger, a bullet comes out.

00:14:50.000 And then if you pull the trigger again, another bullet comes out.

00:14:54.000 That is just unacceptable.

00:14:57.000 And they want to, of course, ban the AR-15, which is a civilian version of the M16. 0.53

00:15:03.000 We want to ban the Bushmaster XM-15, which is the same thing as an AR-15.

00:15:09.000 We want to ban anything that says AK on it.

00:15:12.000 Avtovat Kalashnikova.

00:15:13.000 Any of those ugly guns.

00:15:16.000 Which are actually, most of these ugly guns are, like the AK for example, the round that they shoot is less powerful than most hunting rifles.

00:15:26.000 But the hunting rifles look more civilian looking.

00:15:30.000 And the AKs look very, very vicious because commies like to carry them. 1.00

00:15:34.000 So you can't have any AK-type guns in the United States.

00:15:38.000 AK-47, AK-74, you name it.

00:15:42.000 Let's see what else they got here.

00:15:44.000 Oh, they have a catch-all category.

00:15:46.000 The catch-all category.

00:15:49.000 Uh, any semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

00:15:56.000 Ooh, now wait a minute.

00:15:58.000 Let me think of one of those.

00:15:59.000 A semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine.

00:16:03.000 Well, I don't know.

00:16:04.000 I don't think the Ruger 1022 has a fixed magazine, but I think they're after that one, too, because it's semi-automatic.

00:16:11.000 And also, all you people with your Remington 1100s, you know, that ancient, old, semi-automatic shotgun.

00:16:18.000 Mm-mm-mm.

00:16:20.000 That's not a good thing.

00:16:21.000 That's not a good thing.

00:16:23.000 Now, here's some more.

00:16:25.000 Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban all guns at will.

00:16:30.000 Let me repeat that.

00:16:32.000 Attorney General, this guy that Obama's appointing, hates guns.

00:16:39.000 You know, communists don't like guns in the hands of other people.

00:16:44.000 They don't like it.

00:16:45.000 So let me read this.

00:16:47.000 Again, this is Alan Corwin's letter.

00:16:50.000 Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add, quote, Any semi-automatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General, end quote.

00:17:09.000 Note that Obama's pick for this office, Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for January the 15th, whatever, wrote a brief in the Heller case, supporting position that you have no right to have a working firearm In your home.

00:17:24.000 Okay. So, get it straight.

00:17:26.000 America. America.

00:17:28.000 People who like the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, you know, freedom, liberty, all that stuff.

00:17:35.000 The Attorney General wants to be able to ban whatever the heck he wants.

00:17:41.000 At his whim.

00:17:42.000 And he hates guns.

00:17:43.000 So, do the math.

00:17:45.000 Do the math.

00:17:47.000 Um, and this part's funny.

00:17:49.000 In making this determination, the bill says, quote, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use in the United States by the military or any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.

00:18:17.000 What? I think that was double-speak and double-talk.

00:18:21.000 So in other words, if a rifle is used in a sporting event or a firearm, but the Attorney General determines that it's really not suitable for use in that sport, then he can ban it too.

00:18:34.000 I'll give you an example about that.

00:18:36.000 Years ago, I used to shoot a self-defense combat pistol sport called International Defensive Pistol Association, IDPA.

00:18:46.000 And they used real-world handguns.

00:18:51.000 For example, what the police use.

00:18:54.000 The most common guns in these events were 1911s, the old 45s, various versions of them, and Glocks.

00:19:03.000 And of course, most police in the United States carry Glocks. 0.95

00:19:06.000 So according to this, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by Law enforcement is not particularly suitable for sporting.

00:19:18.000 So what they'd be telling me is that gun that you shoot, your Glock that you shoot in your pistol competition, which is a sport, is not suitable for the sport that you shoot it in.

00:19:28.000 Got it? 0.64

00:19:30.000 I mean, we're talking crazy people here. 0.95

00:19:33.000 And the bad news is, That the crazy people are the ones that are in control of the government. 0.56

00:19:39.000 Now, that hasn't changed any.

00:19:41.000 The flavor of it has changed.

00:19:43.000 They used to go after the Second Amendment under the table, and now they're heading at it full bore.

00:19:50.000 So when we get back, we'll continue with this.

00:19:52.000 This is Bob Dacey for Alex Jones on the Alex Jones Show GCN Radio Network.

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00:24:18.000 And I'm rolling on the gun control issue because it's a hot one right now.

00:24:23.000 So let's continue on with our thoughts on that.

00:24:26.000 A few quotes from some very famous people that were in the founding era.

00:24:32.000 This is William Pitt.

00:24:34.000 Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.

00:24:38.000 It is the argument of tyrants.

00:24:41.000 It is the creed of slaves." Yeah, you know, we just got to get rid of the guns because we have to, because they're there and you can't have them and they're dangerous and you need to trust the government.

00:24:54.000 You know, I mean, so, you know, but no, that's not the real case.

00:24:58.000 They always are saying that. 1.00

00:25:00.000 Every time, they always got some great excuse for their stupid laws. 0.99

00:25:03.000 And of course, in the case of guns, it's because it's always to save the children. 1.00

00:25:07.000 Which is a crock.

00:25:09.000 I wonder how many Jewish children died in World War II because their parents didn't have any guns.

00:25:16.000 Oh well, forget about that.

00:25:17.000 That's ancient history.

00:25:19.000 Here's another one.

00:25:21.000 Patrick Henry.

00:25:23.000 Ever heard of him?

00:25:25.000 Guard with jealous attention the public liberty.

00:25:28.000 Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel.

00:25:31.000 Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it But downright force.

00:25:36.000 Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.

00:25:40.000 End quote.

00:25:41.000 That's Patrick Henry.

00:25:43.000 He's the founding father.

00:25:44.000 He's a hero of the American experience.

00:25:47.000 You ought to listen to him because if they take your guns away from you, well guess what?

00:25:52.000 You will be a slave.

00:25:54.000 And anybody that's out there listening that's in the military or law enforcement, you know that'll realize that's true.

00:26:00.000 You know, you're supposed to protect and defend the Constitution, not whatever puppets up there in the White House right now who's violating the Constitution.

00:26:08.000 Your job, your sacred duty, your sacred honor is to defend the Constitution of the United States of America, not the bozo giving you orders to do the exact opposite. 0.99

00:26:20.000 I mean, that is serious.

00:26:21.000 Your kids are going to have to live in this country, too.

00:26:24.000 And your grandkids and everybody else.

00:26:25.000 All you police and military out there, you need to wake up Read the Constitution.

00:26:31.000 You know what's funny?

00:26:33.000 The current Sheriff of Travis County, Greg Hamilton, when he was running for Sheriff, I got a chance to ask him a question live on TV when he was a candidate.

00:26:47.000 And just the basic deal was I asked him if he was going to swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution if he became Travis County Sheriff.

00:26:55.000 And he said, Oh, absolutely!

00:26:56.000 And I said, well, do you realize that the Bill of Rights is part of the Constitution?

00:27:01.000 He said, oh, yeah, absolutely!

00:27:03.000 And I said, well, do you agree that the Fourth Amendment, the one about the unreasonable search and seizure and having to get a warrant and going before a judge and doing your homework, you know, you gotta say what's gonna be seized and what's gonna be searched and all that, do you agree with that?

00:27:18.000 Oh, yeah, Fourth Amendment, that's great!

00:27:20.000 And then I ask him, well, if the feds come into town and they want your help to search my house, Without a warrant, are you going to help them?

00:27:28.000 He said, sure, yeah, yeah.

00:27:31.000 So here's the problem.

00:27:33.000 Every, all you cops out there listening, all you police out there, whatever.

00:27:36.000 The problem is, these, they're sitting there swearing an oath to defend, protect and defend a document that they've never read and they don't understand.

00:27:48.000 Now there's the core problem. 0.99

00:27:50.000 So the core solution there would be for all the police and the military to read the darn Constitution. 0.99

00:27:56.000 Read it! 0.98

00:27:58.000 You know, it was written in English for people who can understand English.

00:28:01.000 You know, they tell you that it's so mysterious and so obscure that only nine old geezers up on the Supreme Court can fully understand it.

00:28:09.000 And that's a total crock, too.

00:28:11.000 Maybe I'll get into that later.

00:28:12.000 But anyway, let's go back to a couple of quotes here.

00:28:16.000 Here's a good one right here.

00:28:17.000 This is one of my favorite ones because it's Thomas Jefferson.

00:28:20.000 You know, this tells you how you should try to interpret the Constitution.

00:28:27.000 Right here.

00:28:28.000 Quote, On every question of construction of the Constitution, let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text or invented against it, conform to the probable one Yeah, just read it.

00:28:52.000 It says what it says.

00:28:53.000 It means what it means.

00:28:58.000 If you go back and look at the history of the whole nine yards, Well run.

00:29:19.000 You know, organized.

00:29:21.000 And, uh, militia.

00:29:22.000 Well, guess what that meant.

00:29:23.000 That meant you.

00:29:25.000 It means anybody capable of bearing arms.

00:29:27.000 Continue with this after the break.

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00:33:03.000 Amazing! Probably shouldn't be playing that ZZ Top for me, because I just like to sit there and listen to it.

00:33:29.000 I love ZZ Top.

00:33:31.000 Good old Texas band.

00:33:35.000 Yeah, I'll tell you who's mistaken.

00:33:37.000 It's these anti-gun nuts.

00:33:39.000 That's who's mistaken.

00:33:40.000 I want to talk about...

00:33:42.000 I want to read another quote, and then we're going to get into some more of this gun stuff.

00:33:47.000 And here's another quote.

00:33:48.000 I like Patrick Henry a lot.

00:33:49.000 You know, he was a...

00:33:50.000 A fiery firebrand orator and I think that you know I don't want to you know I don't want to stroke Alex Jones's ego too much because he probably doesn't need that but Alex Jones is a modern-day Patrick Henry and so Patrick Henry was you know he was he was the guy that whipped them all up and that's what Alex does now.

00:34:11.000 Here's another quote from Patrick Henry in regard to the Second Amendment or the right to keep and bear arms.

00:34:20.000 Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense?" Well, apparently not, Mr. Henry.

00:34:32.000 Apparently, you know, we need to be giving them all up to our glorious, imperious, new imperious leader, Barack Obama, the second coming of Christ.

00:34:41.000 And, you know, he'll be able to beat our swords into plowshares and then we can plow for him.

00:34:49.000 You know?

00:34:50.000 Yeah, yeah, I have a I have a I want to read a quote from a letter that a particular gun Distributor sent to me.

00:35:00.000 I'm gonna say who they are because it didn't really matter.

00:35:02.000 This is a quote from Barack Hussein the usurper Obama Back when he was running for president.

00:35:13.000 This was at a violence Policy Center fundraiser in 2000 this is Your current so-called titular puppet President of the United States.

00:35:27.000 Quote, My first priority will be to reinstate the assault weapons ban as soon as I take office.

00:35:34.000 Within 90 days, we will go back after kitchen table dealers and work to end the gun show and internet sales loopholes.

00:35:43.000 In the first year, I intend to work with Congress on a national no-carry law One gun a month purchase limits and bans on all semi-automatic guns.

00:35:55.000 End quote.

00:35:57.000 And so then the author of this letter says, Mr. Obama, will you really spend trillions on bailouts to create and protect jobs while destroying millions of American jobs in the firearms, hunting, gunsmithing, sporting, reloading, services, supplies, distribution, retail, and manufacturing business?

00:36:17.000 apparently yes wow so you're talking about here here you go he wants to he wants to uh...

00:36:26.000 get rid of this gun show loophole you know i remember years ago in two thousand one i'll tell you a little personal story here in two thousand one in march here in texas they had this deal where they were gonna pass a bill to in the gun show loophole now what the gun show loophole is is where you can buy Or sell a gun at a gun show if you're not a dealer to another individual without them having to go through a background check.

00:36:54.000 The bill basically proposed that what you could legally do in the parking lot outside the building, you couldn't legally do inside the building.

00:37:05.000 It's preposterous.

00:37:07.000 But anyway, there was a big hearing down at the State Capitol here in Austin.

00:37:11.000 I went down there, covered it for my TV show, The Simple Truth.

00:37:16.000 I was sitting in there watching this farce of a meeting.

00:37:21.000 The main thing I remember is, I was the very first person there to show up.

00:37:25.000 Literally, the very first person.

00:37:27.000 And you could sign up to speak.

00:37:30.000 And so I signed up to speak, but there was a problem.

00:37:32.000 You had to indicate whether you were for or against the bill.

00:37:35.000 So I said, do I have to put that down?

00:37:37.000 Yeah, you gotta put that down.

00:37:38.000 So I said I was against the gun show loophole bill.

00:37:40.000 So what they did was, even though our side outnumbered the gun grabbers by about 20 to 1, I'd say, they put the gun grabbers on top of the stack and the pro-Second Amendment people on the bottom of the stack to make it look like everybody was for the bill.

00:37:56.000 It was a farce.

00:37:58.000 And the other thing I remember is you had two of these so-called gang members from Houston came up to quote-unquote testify.

00:38:10.000 I'm sitting there a few feet away from it, and they're sitting there just spewing lies to this committee, this house committee at the state capitol.

00:38:20.000 One of the guys says, yeah man, we go into gun shows, man, we bring cash, we go in there, we bring out sacks of guns at wholesale prices, no questions asked.

00:38:31.000 You know, I'm listening to these lies, and I just can't believe it.

00:38:35.000 And then, Shortly thereafter, Alex comes running into the room, taps me on the shoulder, and says, Bob, get your camera out here right now, there's something going on in the hall.

00:38:47.000 And so, I got up, went out there, and the head of this anti-gun group in Houston, this old man by the name of Dave Smith, was paying off these guys that were lying to the committee with cash money right outside the committee room.

00:39:03.000 Literally. And somebody else caught some of it on videotape.

00:39:06.000 And Alex went over there and talked to the guys, you know, and one of them said, oh, this cash, oh, this is just a stipend for volunteering.

00:39:19.000 I mean, what a, I mean, these people, look, the anti-gunners are, they operate a lot like the communists do.

00:39:29.000 Anything goes to get what you want.

00:39:32.000 They lie, they chill, they work.

00:39:34.000 They steal, they cheat, anything, anything to get their way.

00:39:40.000 They don't care.

00:39:42.000 The main thing you have to learn when you're dealing with anti-gunners is you can't compromise with them. 0.99

00:39:50.000 You cannot compromise with them because they're just a bunch of liars. 0.75

00:39:54.000 That same year, a really neat thing happened.

00:39:56.000 You talk about the ability of just one or two people to make a big difference in an issue.

00:40:03.000 Uh, the Million Mom March people were really crazy back then.

00:40:07.000 They were having their little rallies all over the place and they were, It's time to save the children.

00:40:11.000 Oh, please save the children.

00:40:13.000 If it just saves one child, please, please. 1.00

00:40:16.000 You know, these people, these shrill fools. 0.97

00:40:20.000 Well, anyway, um, a, someone, I don't remember who it was, a man, I think it was a man and a woman, decided to find the Million Mom March headquarters back then. 0.97

00:40:30.000 And so they noticed it was, um, They saw the address on the website was at some place in San Francisco.

00:40:36.000 So they went to the address and they couldn't find it.

00:40:38.000 Turns out the address was a hospital, a city-owned hospital.

00:40:42.000 They were trying to find this place and they noticed that the elevator wouldn't stop on one of the floors.

00:40:49.000 So what did they do?

00:40:50.000 They hitched a ride with the delivery man who knew how to stop the elevator at this particular floor.

00:40:55.000 And lo and behold, there's the Million Mom March National Headquarters.

00:41:00.000 Occupying, you know, maybe five, six thousand square feet on a city-owned, government-owned building, a political advocacy group, rent-free.

00:41:10.000 Well, guess what happened?

00:41:12.000 When these people found the Million Mommy March headquarters, they had to evict them because they were violating the law by being there.

00:41:20.000 You know, that's what I'm talking about.

00:41:21.000 You know, these people, the anti-gunners, cannot be trusted.

00:41:25.000 They cannot be compromised with.

00:41:27.000 And, you know, they're all a bunch of totalitarian control freaks.

00:41:31.000 You know, which brings me a little bit to this current thing, HR 45, to provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a records of sale system for those firearms and for other purposes.

00:41:50.000 Oh, you gotta watch out when they say it's for other purposes, too.

00:41:53.000 Look out.

00:41:53.000 This is a summary I'm looking from the Thomas Government Document Locator.

00:41:59.000 Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record Act of 2009 amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this act or a state system certified under this act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked.

00:42:20.000 I'm talking about a federal record of sale system.

00:42:23.000 This thing is horrible.

00:42:26.000 Absolutely horrible.

00:42:28.000 And it all, it's kind of funny, you think that after the so-called Heller decision, which took place last year, where the Supreme Court finally came out and theoretically told you that there is an individual right to keep and bear arms, you would think that they'd get the message, but they don't.

00:42:50.000 And, you know, when the Heller decision came about, I was kind of...

00:42:55.000 I read the whole thing, and there's a lot of good stuff in there, and there's a lot of bad stuff in there.

00:43:00.000 And, of course, the bad stuff always overrides the good.

00:43:04.000 Back then, William Norman Grigg, who was formerly a senior editor of the New American Magazine, penned an article called the Heller Misdirection.

00:43:16.000 In other words, the decision sounded good for the Second Amendment.

00:43:22.000 It was advertised as good for the Second Amendment.

00:43:25.000 The mainstream press begrudgingly said it was good for the Second Amendment.

00:43:31.000 But if you looked at the fine print, well, wait just a minute.

00:43:34.000 So I'm going to read some of this article by William Norman Grigg.

00:43:40.000 Like the inhabitants of other formerly free societies, Americans are content to define freedom in terms of those liberties we are permitted to exercise.

00:43:53.000 Yesterday's Supreme Court ruling in District of Columbia v.

00:43:57.000 Heller is perfectly in harmony with this self-defeating concept of freedom.

00:44:03.000 Scalia, who was the guy who wrote the main opinion, Scalia allows that the Second Amendment acknowledges and protects an individual right to armed self-defense.

00:44:14.000 He then explicitly limits the extent to which that right can be exercised, thereby redefining it as a state-conferred privilege.

00:44:25.000 We can't really expect a statist creature like Antonin Scalia to embrace the view that the right to keep and bear arms includes the right of citizens, acting either individually or collectively, to kill agents of the state when such action is necessarily and morally justified.

00:44:43.000 Any other view of the Second Amendment is worse than useless.

00:44:50.000 This is certainly true of the view that emerges in Scalia's Heller opinion.

00:44:56.000 He asserts, quote, like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited.

00:45:02.000 It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever for whatever purpose.

00:45:09.000 Miller's holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those in common use at the time and supports the historical tradition of prohibiting and carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.

00:45:21.000 Well, back to me now, Bob Dacey.

00:45:23.000 We're talking about, okay, so the government's going to say, well, that weapon of yours is too dangerous, or that weapon of yours is very unusual, and you can't carry that one.

00:45:32.000 And back to you, Mr. Grigg.

00:45:36.000 When a government grants a liberty and then restricts the manner in which it can be used, the result is not a right, but a limited conditional license.

00:45:49.000 Scalia's passage cited above will inevitably be seen as a license from the court for legislative bodies to enact or fortify laws against dangerous and unusual weapons, such as the scary-looking guns ritually denounced as assault weapons, for example, and other even more troubling portions of his opinion will abet further restrictions on the purposes for which firearms can be used.

00:46:16.000 Wow, you'd think Mr. William Norman Gregg must know something about it.

00:46:20.000 He'd have a crystal ball or something here because that's exactly what they're doing now.

00:46:26.000 Here you have the Democrats in control of the House, the Democrats in control of the Senate, New World Order flunky in control of the White House. 0.72

00:46:36.000 Wasn't it ever thus?

00:46:38.000 And, you know, they're openly now attacking the Second Amendment.

00:46:43.000 Very shortly after the Hellerger decision, supposedly said they need to leave it alone.

00:46:50.000 William Norman Gregg, right again.

00:46:53.000 Wow. How about that?

00:46:56.000 Okay. Now, I want to go back in history.

00:46:59.000 Another history lesson.

00:47:00.000 It's very important.

00:47:01.000 You know, you got to understand the history of what's been going on in order to understand what's going on now.

00:47:07.000 I have an article in front of me by Aaron Zellman of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, the GCA 68, that stands for Gun Control Act of 68, what your politician never told you.

00:47:26.000 Why would a U.S. Senator in 1968 be vitally interested in the structure and contents of a Nazi law of 1938?

00:47:34.000 We cannot ask the late Senator Thomas J. Dodd personally, but we can look at the facts.

00:47:40.000 Thomas Dodd served as a senior member of the team of U.S. prosecutors at the Nuremberg trials of the Nazi war criminals in 1945 to 46. In that position, Dodd had access and doubtless reviewed Nazi laws.

00:47:56.000 Something about the Nazi laws must have intrigued Dodd.

00:47:59.000 As a senator from Connecticut, Dodd chaired the committee hearings on bills, quote, to require the registration of firearms, end quote, and to build a national firearms owner database.

00:48:10.000 Many of the Nazi Germany's social and engineering schemes, including its civilian disarming and murdering programs, rested on a national citizen registration and tracking. 0.71

00:48:21.000 Is this what Senator Dodd had learned from the Nazis? 0.62

00:48:27.000 As it happened, Senator Dodd owned personally a copy of the Nazi weapons law of 1938.

00:48:33.000 Before the Gun Control Act of 1968 was enacted, Senator Dodd asked the Library of Congress To translate Dodd's own copy of that law.

00:48:43.000 Do you understand this?

00:48:45.000 Look, Senator Dodd sent the Nazi Gun Control Act of 1938 to the Library of Congress and asked them to translate it into English.

00:48:55.000 This is the basis of our law.

00:48:58.000 It's not radical to think that they would have done that.

00:49:02.000 Actually, it only makes sense if you think about it.

00:49:05.000 You're sitting there trying to enact a gun control law, and you think, well, gee, who really knew how to do it?

00:49:13.000 Oh, Adolph!

00:49:14.000 Uncle Adolph knew how to do it.

00:49:16.000 So let's see.

00:49:17.000 Translate this thing into English, and we'll use that as the basis for the Gun Control Act of 68. And that's exactly what they did.

00:49:25.000 So, you know, all you people out there that have some bizarre notion that if you just take the guns away from all of the innocent people and all the peaceful citizens, that all of a sudden everything's going to be rosy and the government's going to have the guns and everything's going to be wonderful.

00:49:40.000 You people need to, like, you know, get a life or something or maybe check a book out on reality because that's not the reality.

00:49:49.000 The reality is that, you know, it's the golden rule, you know.

00:49:55.000 He who has the guns makes the rules.

00:49:57.000 And when the people of the United States have the guns, we're in charge.

00:50:02.000 When the government, in whatever flavor or entity you want to say, when they've got the guns and we don't, we are slobbering slaves.

00:50:12.000 I don't understand how some people can't see this.

00:50:17.000 I know they get in their little box and they see some accident with a gun and they say, If it just saves one child, if it just saves one child, we need to get rid of all of them.

00:50:30.000 And again, I'm sorry, that's not the big picture.

00:50:34.000 The big picture is when they get rid of your guns, they get rid of you!

00:50:42.000 Alright. We'll be back in a few minutes.

00:50:45.000 We're going to catch up on more of this stuff.

00:50:47.000 This is Bob Dacey for Alex Jones on GCN Radio Network.

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00:54:02.000 They don't want your CSU Okay, this is Bob Dacey back for Alex Jones on the Alex Jones Show GCN Radio Network.

00:54:27.000 Substituting today for about the 13th or 14th time.

00:54:31.000 I really enjoy doing this.

00:54:33.000 I don't get to talk to too many people every day.

00:54:36.000 Okay, before I get back with the gun thing, I want to plug something.

00:54:40.000 You know, one of the products that Alex advertises on this show is the Ecolo Blue Model 28, which is a water-making device.

00:54:50.000 It takes water out of the air, filters it, and then, hey, guess what?

00:54:54.000 You drink it.

00:54:55.000 I just want you to let you know, I have one of those things, and I think the thing is really neat.

00:54:59.000 I, you know, I'm not going to plug it the way he plugs it.

00:55:01.000 I'll plug it the way I plug it.

00:55:03.000 The thing, what it is, is a little water treatment plant that you have in your own house.

00:55:09.000 And, you know, it's very smart.

00:55:11.000 It sits there and it makes water.

00:55:13.000 It transfers it from one thing to another.

00:55:17.000 It stirs the water sometimes.

00:55:19.000 It recycles it.

00:55:20.000 It heats it if you want it.

00:55:22.000 It cools it down if you want it.

00:55:24.000 It tells you what it's doing.

00:55:25.000 It shuts off when it doesn't need to make any more.

00:55:28.000 And the higher the humidity is in the area, the more water it makes.

00:55:32.000 And so, you know, go to ecoloblue.com and check out their website.

00:55:38.000 Well, I think that thing is the neatest thing since sliced toast.

00:55:41.000 And I'm the first on my block to have one.

00:55:43.000 So there, how about that?

00:55:44.000 Also, while we're talking about, you know, oh by the way, the reason I like the thing is because I know the water that comes out of it doesn't have any chlorine in it, it doesn't have any crud in it, and it doesn't have any fluoride in it.

00:55:55.000 There you go, that's why.

00:55:56.000 That's why I've got one.

00:55:58.000 You know, so, you control your own water supply.

00:56:01.000 You maintain that thing, it'll maintain you.

00:56:03.000 That's it.

00:56:04.000 Okay, also, The other thing you need other than water is food.

00:56:08.000 And I want to talk about eFoodsDirect.com.

00:56:12.000 They're one of the advertisers on this show, one of the supporters of this show.

00:56:16.000 By supporting them, you support the Alex Jones Show.

00:56:19.000 And, you know, it's not a bad idea to have some food.

00:56:24.000 You know, look what happened to Katrina and all that. 1.00

00:56:27.000 You know, you don't want to be standing around waiting for FEMA to give you something.

00:56:31.000 You don't want that, I'll guarantee you.

00:56:33.000 You know, if things get bad or whatever.

00:56:35.000 I view the whole thing as an insurance policy.

00:56:38.000 You know, if you don't, you can buy it, you can store it, you can eat it, fine, whatever.

00:56:44.000 If you don't want to, you don't have to, but if you need it, you know, why not?

00:56:48.000 Why not?

00:56:49.000 So go to eFoodsDirect.com and check out what they have to offer.

00:56:54.000 It makes a lot of sense to me.

00:56:56.000 Okay. I'm not used to doing commercial plugs because my TV show The Simple Truth here in Austin is all non-commercial and you can't do that on cable access TV.

00:57:06.000 But hey, this is the big time, so there you go.

00:57:10.000 Okay, now I was talking about the fact that the Gun Control Act of 1968 was derived from the Nazi gun laws of 1938.

00:57:21.000 I'm going to read to you the letter The cover letter from the Library of Congress that was sent to Thomas Dodd when they returned his Nazi gun control act to him translated into English.

00:57:36.000 Library of Congress, Washington, D.C., July 12, 1968.

00:57:40.000 Honorable Thomas J. Dodd, Chairman, Special Subcommittee to Investigate Juvenile Delinquency, U.S.

00:57:46.000 Senate, Washington, D.C.

00:57:48.000 Dear Senator Dodd, your request of July 2nd.

00:58:18.000 prepared by Dr. William Soyum Fikete of that division, as well as a Xerox copy of the original German text which you supplied.

00:58:27.000 There you have it, ladies and gentlemen.

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01:00:04.000 Big Brother.

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01:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:09.000 You want answers?

01:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

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01:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:25.000 No, live from Austin, Texas, this is Bob Basie substituting for Alex Jones here on the 30th day of January 2009.

01:00:36.000 Uh, for the last hour, I have been harping on the Second Amendment and the assault that's been going on on the Second Amendment.

01:00:46.000 And I guess, uh, it's just gonna continue to go on.

01:00:49.000 I, um, the thing to do, this is it right here.

01:00:53.000 This is what you need to do.

01:00:54.000 Number one, any law that is repugnant to the Constitution is null and void.

01:01:00.000 Therefore, any of these gun control things that tell you to turn in your guns or whatever they're going to concoct, well, just ignore them because, you know, when you turn in your guns, you've had it.

01:01:11.000 That's it.

01:01:12.000 It's over.

01:01:14.000 So don't turn in your guns.

01:01:16.000 You know, even if half the American people are Gonna be classified as criminals.

01:01:22.000 Well, the government that attacks the Second Amendment, by definition, is criminal.

01:01:28.000 So, if you're a criminal to a criminal, that's two bad things.

01:01:31.000 That means it's a good thing.

01:01:32.000 Two negatives makes a positive.

01:01:33.000 Therefore, you're not a criminal.

01:01:36.000 Also, too, the other thing that's extremely important, and I mean this is so important, military and police out there, Jack McClam always says that when tyranny comes, it comes wearing a uniform.

01:01:48.000 It's up to you guys To do nothing.

01:01:51.000 You know, read the Constitution, read the oath that you swore to protect and defend it, read the Second Amendment, and just refuse.

01:01:59.000 Just sit on your hands.

01:02:04.000 Do nothing.

01:02:05.000 You know, if some bozo up in some ivory tower tells you to go out and collect firearms in the neighborhood like a trick-or-treater, just don't do it.

01:02:15.000 Or fake like you're doing it and come back empty.

01:02:17.000 I don't care.

01:02:18.000 What? Just don't do it.

01:02:21.000 You know, you'll be helping to save your country.

01:02:24.000 And, you know, isn't that the point?

01:02:27.000 Isn't that the point?

01:02:29.000 So, anyway, that's what you need to do.

01:02:32.000 Massive, massive, Gandhi-esque, civil disobedience.

01:02:41.000 That's the key.

01:02:44.000 And again, both Officials, police, military, and regular Joe's, regular Bubba's, regular whatever.

01:02:53.000 Just don't cooperate.

01:02:55.000 Just don't cooperate with them.

01:02:57.000 You know?

01:02:58.000 I mean, I cannot imagine an American who would get an IRS form and start filling out the serial number of his guns.

01:03:09.000 And they're here, I got this many guns, I got me a...

01:03:12.000 I got me a Ruger Mini-14.

01:03:14.000 Oh, well, that's illegal.

01:03:15.000 I'm gonna put that one down there.

01:03:16.000 Oh, I got an AK.

01:03:17.000 No, can't put it down there.

01:03:18.000 Well, I got a Ruger 10-20.

01:03:20.000 No, I can't put that down there.

01:03:21.000 Well, it's...

01:03:22.000 I got a revolver!

01:03:23.000 Wait, I got a flintlock.

01:03:24.000 I'll put that one down there.

01:03:25.000 Flintlock. Yeah, if Barack Hussein Obama, the usurper, has his way, they're going to rewrite the Second Amendment.

01:03:34.000 They're gonna say, the right of the people to keep and bear flintlocks shall not be infringed.

01:03:41.000 That's what they're going to do.

01:03:43.000 That's going to be the operative thing.

01:03:46.000 They're going to strictly interpret, and they're going to say, look, the only thing they had back then was flintlocks.

01:03:52.000 And therefore, the Founding Fathers meant that if there was any technological advantage, that was included.

01:04:00.000 You know, like if guns get better, well, your guns can't get better.

01:04:04.000 You know?

01:04:05.000 The problem is the Supreme Court decision, U.S. v.

01:04:09.000 Miller, kind of makes that kind of hard to do because the Miller decision said that the constitutionally protected guns are the ones that are of the type that the military uses and of the type in common use at the time.

01:04:21.000 And there's another little inconvenient fact that comes up, and that is that back during the time of the Revolutionary War, The civilians actually had better guns than the military.

01:04:34.000 The military had those Brown Best muskets, smoothbore, and the civilians, a lot of them had rifles.

01:04:40.000 So that screws up that argument, too.

01:04:42.000 When we get back, we have Max Kaiser coming up, and we're going to talk financial stuff with him.

01:04:48.000 I'm going to try to do my best.

01:04:50.000 I'm a small business man.

01:04:51.000 I hope I can talk with this guy.

01:04:53.000 Back after the break, Bob Daisy for Alex Jones.

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01:08:06.000 Music Recovery plan now at $825 billion.

01:08:25.000 And then later on they had another article in the local paper that said, oh, they passed an $819 billion bailout, and looks like this particular bailout is more flavored to giving stuff away to not the bankers.

01:08:38.000 You know, some of it.

01:08:39.000 It's like they're going to give away school district stuff, modernization, infrastructure, bribes to the individual people, tuition tax credits and stuff.

01:08:51.000 This is getting a little over my head.

01:08:54.000 So what we're going to do, we're going to bring on Max Kaiser, who is one of these financial guru guys.

01:09:00.000 And Max, are you there?

01:09:02.000 Hey Bob, how's it going?

01:09:04.000 I don't know, man.

01:09:06.000 I'm kind of vaguely familiar with some of this stuff.

01:09:10.000 I'm a small businessman, and in small business, you don't get squat from nobody.

01:09:15.000 So I want to ask you a bunch of questions, I guess.

01:09:20.000 First off, tell the people who you are again and kind of familiarize them with what you do, please.

01:09:26.000 Well, first of all, Bob, I feel, due to luck of the draw, I get to be on the show with you today.

01:09:30.000 And that Alex Jones character, that guy's crazy.

01:09:35.000 Why is he? 0.85

01:09:35.000 Thank goodness. 0.85

01:09:37.000 guy, Alex, is crazy. 0.91

01:09:38.000 I'm on Bob Dacey. 0.93

01:09:39.000 Thank God.

01:09:40.000 Well, how do you know I'm not crazy?

01:09:42.000 I've been listening to the show.

01:09:44.000 I've listened to all 14 times you were on before, Bob.

01:09:46.000 Oh, really?

01:09:47.000 Well, gosh, I have a fan.

01:09:48.000 That makes two.

01:09:49.000 That's good.

01:09:51.000 No, I'm, you know, that's funny.

01:09:54.000 We're Classified, you know, I'm classified kind of jokingly. 0.95

01:09:58.000 I'm a crazy right-wing extremist, wacko, conspiracy theorist. 0.97

01:10:02.000 And the problem is I'm not crazy right- and left-wingers, a bunch of nonsense. 0.99

01:10:07.000 Extremist, well, you know, if you believe in the Constitution, you're an extremist. 0.90

01:10:11.000 Wacko, I don't really think so.

01:10:13.000 I think I'm pretty logical, pretty cool-headed.

01:10:15.000 And conspiracy, yeah, there's definitely conspiracy out there.

01:10:18.000 But theorist, no, it's not a theory, it's a fact.

01:10:22.000 But I appreciate the compliment there, but once again, tell people about what you do, because that's what you're supposed to do when you introduce a guest.

01:10:30.000 Sure, sure.

01:10:31.000 First of all, my main site is MaxKaiser.com, that's K-E-I-S-E-R, MaxKaiser.com.

01:10:40.000 Myself and Stacy, we track the financial collapse and all the financial shenanigans on that site.

01:10:50.000 Before that, we were making films for Al Jazeera English on markets and finance, covering all that's been going on in the last few years.

01:10:58.000 We predicted, for example, we were in Iceland a year before the economy collapsed.

01:11:02.000 We made a film about that collapse, spoke to the bankers up there, said, your economy is going to collapse.

01:11:07.000 A year later, it collapsed.

01:11:09.000 We talked about the real estate collapse, the U.S., the U.K. pound collapsing, banks in the U.K. collapsing.

01:11:17.000 We talked about all that stuff.

01:11:18.000 We talked about a new Great Depression coming based on the SEC's failure and the re-emergence of rigged markets that we saw back in the late 20s and 30s.

01:11:30.000 Before that, I was in Los Angeles.

01:11:33.000 I created something called the Hollywood Stock Exchange.

01:11:36.000 I basically created the idea of trading box offers futures contracts.

01:11:40.000 Which now there's a company called Cantor Exchange, which is part of Cantor Fitzgerald.

01:11:45.000 They bought the Hollywood Stock Exchange.

01:11:47.000 They're now launching box office features contracts.

01:11:50.000 So I kind of invented that whole concept.

01:11:52.000 Before that, I was a stockbroker on Wall Street.

01:11:56.000 And I guess what I'm kind of specializing in these days is looking at the technology that runs markets, picking up on when markets are manipulated.

01:12:08.000 When markets, you can make predictions on which way prices are going if you kind of understand how markets are being manipulated.

01:12:16.000 And I just did an interview with Joseph Stiglitz on his way to Davos a couple of days ago.

01:12:21.000 He was talking about the fact that all markets are, in fact, manipulated.

01:12:25.000 And ever since markets got off, in the U.S., in 1971, the U.S. tied the last The last tie that they had with the gold standard, and we went on to a purely fiat currency system, meaning that none of the currencies had any intrinsic value.

01:12:43.000 They weren't convertible into something like gold.

01:12:46.000 The currency was then just a piece of paper that was backed by the full faith and credit of the government.

01:12:53.000 global economy and the U.S.

01:12:55.000 economy has been based on these fiat currencies, which are basically, to put it in economic terms, fungible.

01:13:05.000 In other words, you can play a lot of games with fiat currencies, and we've seen since that time The savings and loan crisis, the 1987 stock market crash, long-term capital management explosion, the dot-com bust, and then more recently the real estate bust, and now the Wall Street banking bust.

01:13:27.000 Well, that's really good.

01:13:28.000 That brings up a question.

01:13:29.000 I'm trying to think of an intelligent question to ask you, because you're in a field that's like way beyond my meager small businessman abilities, but I'm listening to what you say, and I'm thinking, well, if the markets are rigged, if they're controlled, if they're manipulated all the time, how does the little guy make an honest buck trying to invest when he's playing against a stacked deck that he's got no control over?

01:13:58.000 You know, you have to know, you know, you sit down at a poker table, you have to know who you're playing with. 0.95

01:14:04.000 You know, and the old saying is, if you don't know who the chump is, you're the chump. 0.90

01:14:08.000 So there's, you know, there's ways to, there's ways to invest, there's ways to make money, but I think you need to go in there with your head held high and you have to go in there understanding that the markets are inherently flawed and that there are, they're grossly rigged.

01:14:24.000 Uh, and they've gotten to a level just before, let's say 18 months ago, when this current crisis started, to extremes, historical streams of market rigging.

01:14:35.000 And just to give you an idea, I mean, so yeah, the two questions you're asking, you're saying, well, how does a small businessman make money or survive in this type of market?

01:14:45.000 I think that currently, you have to be defensive, you know, put the defense on the field, take the offense off, put the defense on.

01:14:53.000 And the way you put the defense on the field is by getting liquid, paying down all your debts, no credit card debts, and starting to accumulate some precious metals.

01:15:04.000 And there's different ways to accumulate precious metals.

01:15:07.000 You can own the gold bullion outright.

01:15:10.000 I know there's links to different things on MaxKaiser.com.

01:15:13.000 We try to link to different ways you can own gold bullion, silver bullion, which is a purely defensive measure.

01:15:20.000 It might not make you necessarily rich, but At least your purchasing power for your gold and silver during the period that we're in now is maintained.

01:15:32.000 So that's, as I said, that's the idea.

01:15:34.000 Play defense.

01:15:35.000 Don't try to over-finesse it.

01:15:38.000 Even the smartest guys on Wall Street, Bob, as we've seen, some of the smartest people so-called on Wall Street have gotten absolutely hammered in the last couple of years because the game has gotten so rigged and so outrageous That even experienced people in the markets are getting completely blown up.

01:15:56.000 So that's my first comment.

01:15:59.000 In terms of gold investing, the markets are so screwed up and they're so controlled and there's so many financial shenanigans going on.

01:16:13.000 Do you trust paper gold?

01:16:15.000 Well, that's a good question.

01:16:18.000 It's a really good question.

01:16:19.000 Yeah, you call up your broker and say, "Oh, I'm going to buy gold." Well, buy me some of this, and you've got an entry on a piece of paper that says you bought it.

01:16:26.000 I mean, do you trust that?

01:16:28.000 That's a really good question, Bob.

01:16:29.000 And when I was on Alex's show back in November, okay, just to full disclosure here, I mentioned that the paper market in December on the COMEX, that there was looking like there could be a run on the COMEX, and we would see a market failure.

01:16:47.000 Based on what I, at that time, thought was going to be physical demand from the big, big players, particularly in Canada, and didn't materialize.

01:16:57.000 The price of gold has gone up, mind you.

01:16:59.000 So nobody, if they had followed that idea and bought gold, they would be making a very handsome rate of return.

01:17:07.000 So I don't feel as though that was the wrong thing to say in terms of maintaining a good portfolio.

01:17:14.000 But in fact, it wasn't.

01:17:15.000 Was your timing just off?

01:17:18.000 In other words, could it still happen?

01:17:22.000 The COMEX is a market that, like also the NYMEX, which is the sister market, the paper market in New York, where they trade oil, oil futures.

01:17:31.000 These markets, like all markets, are really captured by, they're captured markets by the biggest banks and the regulators who are in bed with these guys, because it's a way for policy, economic policy is being conducted by establishing prices that will, in effect, make the policies happen.

01:17:53.000 So it's a complete reversal of what you'd expect, where somebody would make a policy and then you'd see how the prices react.

01:18:00.000 Instead, what we're seeing is that the people who make policies first pick a price that they want to see, they manipulate the markets to that price, and then they know that the policies will, and the effects will happen.

01:18:44.000 is called goldmoney.com, who I know, James Turk, very well.

01:18:48.000 Again, full disclosure, I know James Turk, and I on occasion do business with them.

01:18:54.000 But I can vouch for their service.

01:18:57.000 And the physical gold, they hold the gold for you.

01:18:59.000 You're getting the gold at the paper price, which is at a discount to the physical price.

01:19:05.000 So you're actually kind of playing with the big boys, so to speak.

01:19:08.000 And again, maxkaiser.com.

01:19:11.000 You would find links to this type of stuff.

01:19:14.000 But anyway, so yes, the paper gold market is obviously to be avoided.

01:19:19.000 But go ahead.

01:19:20.000 Yeah. Another thing, I was kind of doing a little bit of research on you last night because I didn't want to be a complete idiot while I'm talking to you. 1.00

01:19:28.000 You know, had to do a little bit of homework. 0.86

01:19:30.000 I noticed that back, I guess it was in the middle of last year, you had been talking about the direction of the price of oil.

01:19:38.000 And when we get back from the break, I want to ask my question having to do with the manipulation of the oil market.

01:19:45.000 So once again, when we get back from the break, this is Bob Dacey substituting for Alex Jones on the Alex Jones Show, GCN Radio Network, back in a few.

01:19:54.000 Thank you.

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01:24:00.000 Thank you.

01:24:29.000 And before the break, I was getting ready to ask him a question about the price of oil.

01:24:35.000 And here's the question.

01:24:38.000 Back then, most people, back in say July or whatever of last year, were saying, OK, oil's about $140 a barrel, and it's probably going to go to $175 or even $200.

01:24:49.000 And then something happened.

01:24:53.000 Interesting to note that Lindsey Williams made an announcement that he'd been talking to his elitist buddies in the oil business and they said they were fixing to manipulate the price of oil down to around $50 within the year and it just didn't make any sense that that would happen and yet that's exactly what happened.

01:25:17.000 Do you, Mr. Kaiser, do you agree that just a complete Well, I'm familiar with Lindsey Williams' call and he made a good call, but I kind of disagree with some of his work because Mr. Williams is not a believer at all in this theory of peak oil or this idea of peak oil.

01:25:48.000 I've done a lot of work on peak oil, and I'm in the camp that supports the idea of peak oil.

01:25:53.000 But certainly, over the past six months, Lindsey Williams' call has been prescient and looks good.

01:26:02.000 Now, let's talk about oil price manipulation for a second, because here we do have common ground.

01:26:10.000 As I said before, you've got the My next which is the sister futures trading floor to the Comex in New York.

01:26:22.000 It's probably the biggest Exchange where oil is traded.

01:26:25.000 There's a huge incentive and you've got a kind of look at you know That old song the hip bones connected to the to the leg bone the leg bones connected to the foot bone.

01:26:34.000 Remember that old song Bob?

01:26:35.000 Yeah, I remember them Okay.

01:26:37.000 Well the oil market is connected to the dollar market and the dollar markets connected to the gold market and if you understand that The one thing that the banking elite does not want, it's a higher gold price, then they fight like the dickens to keep the gold price as cheap as it possibly can.

01:26:53.000 And they do that by employing such things as naked short selling on these various exchanges, which means selling stuff that doesn't even exist.

01:27:02.000 So it's even beyond the normal short selling, which is just selling stuff that you hope to buy back later.

01:27:10.000 They're selling stuff that doesn't even exist.

01:27:12.000 That's called naked short selling.

01:27:15.000 Are you saying they dropped the gold price in order to, I mean, dropped the oil price in order to suppress the gold price and it didn't work?

01:27:22.000 I'm saying you dropped the gold price, basically, to give support to the dollar.

01:27:27.000 And as you get support to the dollar, there was this huge outflow out of the trade, the anti-dollar trade.

01:27:35.000 There was this huge anti-dollar trade at that time, which included going long commodities like oil and gold.

01:27:42.000 The dollar was trading at historic lows.

01:27:44.000 Gold was flirting at around $1,000.

01:27:47.000 Oil, as you pointed out, was in the $140, $147.

01:27:50.000 And so this was giving a tremendous fright to especially the banking community because people are starting to talk about maybe getting rid of the dollar as the world reserve currency.

01:28:02.000 And having the dollar as the world reserve currency gives the U.S. banks the privilege of printing dollars for the world And for every dollar they print, they get a commission, effectively.

01:28:15.000 It's called seniorage.

01:28:16.000 So they get a commission.

01:28:18.000 You know, the world runs on dollars at the moment.

01:28:20.000 And the U.S. prints dollars, they get like a commission.

01:28:22.000 They get a commission to print all these dollars.

01:28:24.000 If gold and commodities are running higher, then countries start to think, well, maybe we should do something other than the dollar.

01:28:31.000 Right before shock and awe, right before the U.S.

01:28:34.000 invaded Iraq, Saddam Hussein was saying, you know, we're going to start trading our oil in euros.

01:28:40.000 Within six months, he had shock and awe.

01:28:44.000 In Iran, you've got the leaders in Iran saying, maybe we should trade our oil in euros.

01:28:49.000 You've got huge tension in the previous administration with Iran.

01:28:53.000 So the dollar franchise, which has been in place since the end of World War II, is an incredibly lucrative franchise for U.S.

01:29:00.000 banks. So when gold and oil and these commodities started to challenge that, they come in in a very coordinated way.

01:29:07.000 The banks are working very closely with people in the Treasury and the Federal Reserve to do what they have to do to drive the price of these commodities down, including oil and gold.

01:29:19.000 And this gives support to the dollar.

01:29:22.000 We've had this dollar rally since that time, which has been not as robust recently as it was maybe a few months ago.

01:29:31.000 But the answer to your question is, is the price of oil manipulated?

01:29:38.000 No, I don't agree with that, but I do agree with Lindsey that, uh, Mr. Williams, that, uh, you do have, uh, manipulation in the future market.

01:29:47.000 If that's the answer, quick.

01:29:47.000 Okay, Max Geiser, hold that thought.

01:29:49.000 We'll be back after the break.

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01:33:11.000 There's too many of you crying Brother, brother, brother There's far too many of you dying Isn't that the truth?

01:33:27.000 You know, Alex has the coolest music.

01:33:30.000 I don't know, it's amazing.

01:33:31.000 He gets all the good music.

01:33:32.000 You know, if I was to ever do a show, I'd probably have to find me some new music or something that's not his, because he gets all the good stuff, you know?

01:33:39.000 Matter of fact, he reaches into era music from my era, you know?

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01:33:48.000 Uh, Led Zeppelin.

01:33:50.000 I mean, he gets all the good stuff.

01:33:51.000 You know, he ought to stay in his own genre of younger people, you know, but he's...

01:33:55.000 Anyway, we're back on the Alex Jones Show.

01:33:58.000 This is Bob Dacey.

01:33:59.000 I'm talking with Max Keiser about things financial, and I'm probably in over my head on this.

01:34:05.000 But, um, we were talking about manipulation of the oil market and the gold market and all that.

01:34:11.000 I just wonder, you know, this driving down of the price, Mr. Keiser, Was so radical.

01:34:17.000 I mean, in order to accomplish what they wanted, did they really have to plunge a stake in the heart of the price of oil?

01:34:23.000 Why did it drop so far?

01:34:26.000 Well, think about the benefit.

01:34:27.000 It completely has nearly bankrupted Russia.

01:34:32.000 And remember, Russia was very active in the region.

01:34:36.000 America had a relationship with the Ukraine.

01:34:39.000 And then Russia started to get very militaristic.

01:34:43.000 I'm Yeah,

01:35:06.000 you know, total control and their coffers are being filled as the price of oil is going higher as was Venezuela as was the Mideast.

01:35:14.000 but the thing with the Georgia thing was the Georgian army was trained by the Americans and the Israelis and they provoked them.

01:35:25.000 I think from the world view, the Russian response was predictable. 0.94

01:35:33.000 Cross into some stuff and beat up on a bunch of Russians and kill a bunch of civilians. 1.00

01:35:36.000 We're going to come across the border and kick your high knee in. 1.00

01:35:38.000 I mean, that wasn't, that seemed like they were manipulated into being materialistic, don't you think?

01:35:44.000 Uh, well, I think the European view, you know, I'm calling you from Paris and, uh, the European view is, uh, slightly different that, uh, in fact, the, um, the antagonism went the other way initially, but the, The bottom line is that there's a huge incentive to drop the price of oil to defang those ambitions because now Russia's on its back foot trying to deal with a collapse in energy prices.

01:36:12.000 obviously in venezuela venezuela is now uh...

01:36:16.000 pulling back from its initiatives to flood uh...

01:36:18.000 cheap oil into the u_s_ remember they're trying to get some goodwill doing uh...

01:36:22.000 some oil exportation that way to into new york The Mideast, you know, they're now obviously having to suffer along with this collapse in the price of oil.

01:36:36.000 Well, according to Lindsay Williams, that was one of the principal reasons to collapse the price of oil.

01:36:43.000 The elites were going to do it to punish the Arab world because that's the only thing they got to sell. 0.99

01:36:47.000 Well, I mean, that's a benefit for sure.

01:36:53.000 that that certainly i think that during during the bush administration You know, you have this incredible run-up in the price of oil, and the oil companies made huge profits, but at the same time, you can't do that without empowering Mideast, Venezuela, Russia, and it came to a point where they're like, look, we can't keep running the price of oil on the upside, because remember, it was manipulated on the upside as well.

01:37:16.000 We can't keep doing that, and although Exxon and Chevron, these companies are making huge profits, at some point, you know, there's a Cost benefit analysis that needs to be done.

01:37:27.000 We're giving too much money to these guys in these other regions, so we've got to throttle things back.

01:37:32.000 So I'm sure a conversation was had with the major oil companies in the U.S. who said, okay, thank you very much for our multi-billion dollar quarters, highest recorded profits in the history of commerce in the history of the world.

01:37:45.000 We'll take our money, and okay, new administration, we'll go from there.

01:37:51.000 Is it the prices should be floating based on supply and demand But they're not you know, they're not the prices don't bet are not based on supply and demand in the oil market Although that should change as you start to run into What's called supply collapse,

01:38:08.000 which I'm not in in agreement with with mr. Mr. Lindsay on and you don't see price discovery in a fair way either in the financial markets because Thank you.

01:38:31.000 There's a question that brings up to me, and I'm going to sit here and openly disagree with you on this peak oil thing, because it'll be fun, you know?

01:38:39.000 Okay, okay.

01:38:40.000 Let's get into the peak oil thing.

01:38:41.000 Okay, here we go, Bob.

01:38:43.000 Getting into the peak oil.

01:38:44.000 All righty.

01:38:44.000 Here we go.

01:38:45.000 Here we go.

01:38:46.000 Let me just throw out a few plebeian opinions on this issue.

01:38:51.000 You know, I know Lindsey Williams, and I trust the guy.

01:38:56.000 and to the various i read his book of the energy non-crosses which he wrote many years ago and you know by my ways what he's saying in the engine on crosses is that he was physically up there at gull island in alaska when the atlantic richfield proved this monstrous find up there it was they said that they you know do do do whatever techniques they use their proving their well capping pressure testing or whatever i'm not into that that they had this decided that what's underneath them is so huge that it

01:39:26.000 It's probably as big as anything in Saudi Arabia.

01:39:29.000 And they were all having a good old time celebrating up there. 0.95

01:39:32.000 And then the federal government came in and told them a few days later, cap those wells, pull up the stuff, and get the heck out of here and shut your mouth.

01:39:40.000 And basically, this book is about the fact that it kind of agrees with what you're saying.

01:39:45.000 Everything's manipulated.

01:39:46.000 And I wonder, in the peak oil thing, These people manipulate the price, they manipulate everything, and there's no free market out there anymore.

01:39:57.000 It's all just playing games.

01:40:01.000 Isn't it the same people that are providing you with the information that Peak Oil is real?

01:40:07.000 Isn't it the same people that are feeding you what you believe?

01:40:10.000 Well, I made a film on this.

01:40:12.000 I traveled to the Mideast and talked to people, and the fact is that the biggest fields in the world Uh, whether it's Mexico or Saudi Arabia are in decline.

01:40:26.000 They are putting out less oil, uh, less and less every year.

01:40:30.000 The global output of oil year on year, uh, for the year we just reported is dropped something like seven to 9% supply destruction.

01:40:42.000 Don't they manipulate that too?

01:40:44.000 You know, can't they make it?

01:40:47.000 In the case of financial markets, The case for manipulation is one that is easier to make because you've got this fiat currency world, you've got notational values being exchanged between banks where they just create a, they say here's a credit default swap and it's priced at X, Y, and Z and it's just pulled out of a hat really.

01:41:09.000 In the case of oil, because it is a physical commodity, you can look at actual physical evidence and geological evidence and you can actually make a fairly strong Yeah.

01:41:22.000 what's going on in these fields, the amount of oil coming out at the end of the day is dropping.

01:41:27.000 The amount of water being pushed in there to push the oil out, there's been no major discovery.

01:41:33.000 That's the rub right there.

01:41:38.000 You're talking about plunging your soda straw into some soda, and all of a sudden you're hearing that noise instead of getting good Coca-Cola out of there.

01:41:48.000 I'm talking about other Coca-Colas.

01:41:51.000 I'm talking about if it is true that there are discoveries which they have suppressed and are refusing to allow us to gut after, then you're going to create an artificial peak oil shortage, aren't you?

01:42:06.000 And that way you can keep the price up and you can tell the people that they need to drive electric cars and stop driving their muscle cars and all that other stuff.

01:42:15.000 It seems like you can create the illusion of peak oil if you suppress oil fines.

01:42:23.000 They won't let people develop them.

01:42:24.000 You could.

01:42:26.000 And ultimately, we're going to find out, because at the rate of the depletion of oil is now hitting really a very steep downward curve.

01:42:38.000 And the peak oil theory, in the peak oil camp, which I'm involved with, we'll know in the next 12 to 18 to 24 months definitively whether or not Uh, our camp is really in the right camp.

01:42:51.000 But, I mean, what you're saying is true.

01:42:55.000 There's an incentive to manipulate in the way that you're suggesting, for sure.

01:43:01.000 There's an incentive to do that, as there's an incentive to manipulate any market at any time by profiteers looking to manipulate intelligence, looking to manipulate prices, looking to manipulate data, politics, propaganda.

01:43:15.000 This is a scourge of modern society is propaganda and manipulation.

01:43:20.000 And since in the modern era, it's become quite a problem because as the manipulators gain political influence, they've been able to buy their way into the major media outlets of the world and squeeze out or push out any alternative voices. Now, in the case of, let's say, Alex Jones and Bob Dacey on The Alex Jones Show,

01:43:54.000 You know, that's my handle.

01:43:56.000 People characterize me as being part of the extreme left, and yet that's absurd.

01:43:59.000 Just like I believe that Alex Jones is not part of any extreme right, Alex Jones is just a guy who's trying, Bob Dacey, who's interested in uncovering Thank you.

01:44:15.000 be captured by the by the regulators by the corporations like all the corporate occupation And the information's not getting out there.

01:44:23.000 What I'm saying, Max, is this.

01:44:25.000 Look, if I could have my way, you know, if I was like President Bob Obama, you know, and I was really born in the United States and everything, and I could actually just wave my magic wand and there's no manipulation and there's no corruption going on, I'd be sending my guys up to Gull Island and finding out whether Lindsey Williams is right.

01:44:45.000 You know, is there an oil field, is there an oil area up there on the northern Alaska border which is so vast and so huge as to make the peak oil thing a crock?

01:44:56.000 You know, and is that a representative sample of other things going on, manipulated around the world, where they're hiding this stuff from us to keep the price up and to con us out of our standard of living because of this peak oil boogeyman that they keep throwing at us.

01:45:11.000 See, I'd like to be able to prove that. 0.86

01:45:13.000 You know, I'd like to be able to go up to Gull Island and say, okay, is that sucker really there? 0.97

01:45:18.000 You know, and are there other suckers all over the place that are there that they just won't let us touch? 0.97

01:45:22.000 I mean, Lindsey Williams said they went up there, the federal government went up there and said, get the heck out of here.

01:45:27.000 And I know that even just as a layman, you go look at a geological map of Alaska and you find out that 80% of the whole thing up there is off limits.

01:45:36.000 You know, if they're making things off limits, how can you have peak oil if you have a stacked deck like that?

01:45:43.000 I don't agree with you.

01:45:46.000 Okay, now you're talking about Lindsey Williams, and first of all, the fact that the price collapsed the way it did, you have to tip my hat to Lindsey Williams.

01:45:58.000 Because when the price was at $147, as you point out, a lot of pundits were saying, hey, it's going to $175, $220.

01:46:04.000 Lindsey Williams was like a lone voice out there saying, no, it's going to drop down to $50. 0.99

01:46:08.000 And, you know, he's right.

01:46:10.000 And that was a great call.

01:46:13.000 But I disagree, kind of, in, you know, looking at what he looks at in his research.

01:46:18.000 You talk about Lindsey Williams, you believe in his stuff.

01:46:21.000 You know, I look at a guy like Matt Simmons, who is We've got 30 years, you know, poking straws in the ground, who's a scientist, a geologist, who's got no reason to, no agenda to go out there and smudge or fudge the figures, and that's the guy who I look at.

01:46:42.000 Now ultimately, we live still in a somewhat capitalist environment.

01:46:50.000 There's a question as to how much longer we will be in a capitalist environment, but we do live in an environment where the price will out.

01:46:57.000 We'll see in the next couple of years whether or not this depletion or supply destruction is really going to cut into the global supply of oil out there, as I think will be the case.

01:47:13.000 The demand keeps going up.

01:47:15.000 The demand in the last year was higher than it was the year before by a million barrels a day.

01:47:20.000 Even in this economic duress, we still had demand increasing from places like China, India, etc.

01:47:26.000 Supply is decreasing.

01:47:28.000 And when we put those two things together, it translates into a higher price.

01:47:32.000 I agree with Lindsey that the price of the futures and the paper market is manipulated, as all markets are manipulated.

01:47:39.000 And I think he looks great in the last six months.

01:47:42.000 I think six months from now, it's going to be a different story, but I have to concede to you the point that in the last six months, you know, he's definitely got the winning hand in the last six months.

01:47:52.000 You know, if you had bought oil at $140, you'd be, you know, crushed in your account today.

01:47:59.000 And that's a tragedy for those people who bought oil at that price.

01:48:02.000 And he's looking good.

01:48:04.000 But I just, I have not seen, I've weighed all the inputs and the outputs.

01:48:09.000 To me, I'm a believer in the peak oil, but I'm not a fanatic.

01:48:14.000 I mean, I'm always looking for new information.

01:48:17.000 I'll re-read Lindsey Williams' stuff again.

01:48:20.000 I'll look at it again.

01:48:21.000 Maybe I'm overlooking something.

01:48:22.000 I'm perfectly willing to do that.

01:48:23.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

01:48:25.000 When I look at this, I see a blizzard of BS out there.

01:48:30.000 And everyone seems to have a reason for putting out information or disinformation.

01:48:37.000 And when you don't have a clean playing field and you don't have independent confirmation where people aren't playing with stuff, I don't see how you can come up with any conclusions.

01:48:47.000 My conclusion is I'm with Alex and that the...

01:49:03.000 And of course, you know, convincing us that we can't drive our truck anymore or if that's good for them, great.

01:49:11.000 They're going to lie to us.

01:49:12.000 That's all they ever do is lie to us.

01:49:14.000 So, in this atmosphere, this forest of lies, which is, you know, A. the mainstream media, and B. the global elite, I don't see how anybody can come up with any real honest facts.

01:49:26.000 That's all.

01:49:26.000 It's just kind of a...

01:49:27.000 It's confusing, I guess, and I think it's meant to be.

01:49:33.000 Well, I think...

01:49:35.000 I mean, you yourself, in one of your... 0.58

01:49:38.000 I saw in an interview, I believe you said that they are urinating on us.

01:49:42.000 Didn't you say that?

01:49:43.000 Who? Who did I say was urinating on who?

01:49:46.000 That sounds interesting.

01:49:47.000 What did I say?

01:49:48.000 I think I saw that on one of the video clips that they were basically peeing on us.

01:49:57.000 I think that was you.

01:49:58.000 If I'm wrong, I'll take that back.

01:50:00.000 Okay. I think I'm familiar with the clip and it refers to, okay, my main We're good to

01:50:37.000 go. Um, transgressions, if you will.

01:50:40.000 Uh, to the point of, you could classify them, if you want to look historically, uh, over the course of American history.

01:50:47.000 They would be classified as tyrants in a lot of ways.

01:50:50.000 Okay, well, tell you what.

01:50:51.000 Hold that thought, Max.

01:50:52.000 We'll be back after the break and we'll pick up on who the crooks are.

01:50:55.000 This is Bob Dacey for Alex Jones.

01:50:57.000 Be back in a few.

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01:54:00.000 GetSeeds.net Okay, Bob Dacey back on the Alex Jones Show with our guest Max Keiser.

01:54:22.000 Okay, we've got one more segment Max.

01:54:24.000 We're talking about somebody trying to Yeah,

01:54:39.000 today you're talking about basically you want to talk about the new world order you're talking about goldman sachs is that is that accurate this financial coup d'etat that you mentioned that took place as a larger largely orchestrated by goldman sachs yeah

01:54:54.000 well first of all, again the headlines that we cover I don't But,

01:55:28.000 okay, the question of Goldman Sachs.

01:55:30.000 Goldman Sachs inherited, in a lot of ways, the dynasty from J.P. Morgan.

01:55:37.000 Of course, J.P. Morgan is still alive and kicking.

01:55:39.000 And these two banks are really at the heart of the U.S. banking establishment, banking cartel.

01:55:47.000 And, as you know, a lot of people, there's a revolving door between Goldman Sachs and the federal government.

01:55:53.000 So Hank Paulson came from Goldman Sachs.

01:55:55.000 He went into the government, he was a treasury secretary.

01:55:57.000 He'll probably end up going back and working in the finance sector.

01:56:02.000 Tim Geithner.

01:56:03.000 He's a cash carry.

01:56:04.000 Cash carry also, Goldman alumni.

01:56:07.000 Robert Rubin, Goldman alumni.

01:56:10.000 I believe Tim Geithner also, Goldman alumni.

01:56:13.000 So the Goldman is really training, you know, for these guys.

01:56:18.000 They're concentrated, they have a huge profit machine.

01:56:22.000 are doing really questionable things.

01:56:25.000 For example, last year, they were selling bonds on behalf of a customer.

01:56:31.000 At the same time, they were selling them short in the open market and driving the price down.

01:56:36.000 So there was a clear case of double dealing.

01:56:39.000 You know, and this type of thing, if you or I did it, it's a clear case of double dealing.

01:56:46.000 And yet, at that level, it seems to be completely overlooked.

01:56:48.000 Yeah, there's a financial police when you need them, huh?

01:56:51.000 Well, the Financial Police is supposed to be the Securities and Exchange Commission, the SEC, but it's overworked, understaffed.

01:56:57.000 It seems to be a captured regulator, just like these rating agencies like Moody's, S&P, Fitch.

01:57:02.000 They seem to be in the pocket of the industry they're supposed to be supervising.

01:57:06.000 And they're not actually independent agencies.

01:57:09.000 They're doing independent research and independent regulation.

01:57:13.000 And as a result, You've got the growth of a huge concentration of wealth and power.

01:57:18.000 It makes its way into Washington, and then they pass laws that make it much easier for banks and brokers to continue these huge schemes.

01:57:27.000 You know, that Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme is really a model, if you will, for almost everything that's going on in the U.S. financial sector over the past 15, 20 years, really.

01:57:41.000 In layman's terms, you're just saying that the fox is guarding the hen house, and that's the way it is.

01:57:47.000 Yeah, well, that's true.

01:57:49.000 That's the way it was back in Calvin Coolidge's day in the 1920s, which led to the crash and the depression, and things that were established as a result of the depression, like the Securities Act of 1933 and 1934, the FDIC insurance,

01:58:06.000 the SEC, all these things that came as a result Hello, their job in de-fanging the regulatory bodies to the point where we're right back to the Calvin Coolidge's day.

01:58:30.000 the Hogan Crews.

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01:58:36.000 I'm going to have to cut you off.

01:58:38.000 We're just about out of time.

01:58:39.000 Max Keiser, thank you for being on the show.

01:58:42.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

01:58:45.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

01:58:50.000 Hello friends, this is Alex Jones.

01:58:52.000 I've told you for a long time.

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01:58:57.000 We need to be independent and food and water is the key You'll never have to stand in a bread line if you have your own bread You'll never have to go to the superdome and beg for FEMA to take care of your family in any emergency If you simply prepare no one is gonna take care of your family in the final equation But you you know e foods direct comm is still able to ship storable food That's safe from e coli salmonella genetic alteration or Chinese imports and they do it around the world We're good. 0.54

Alex Jones Show - January 30, 2009

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