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00:00:12.000 Well, I've just got him for about twenty minutes or so, then we're going to open the phones up at the bottom of the hour.

00:00:17.000 He is State Representative Charles Key, and he has gotten it passed out of their house, a resolution, a very strong resolution, declaring state independence against gun confiscation, martial law.

00:00:30.000 We had State Senator Brogdon on yesterday.

00:00:35.000 There's a mirror of it in the Senate.

00:00:36.000 They have a very good chance of passing it in the Senate.

00:00:39.000 Now a majority of states have introduced or are passing this type of legislation.

00:00:45.000 I have a headline up on Infowars.com covering that right now.

00:00:50.000 So, Representative Charles Keith, thank you for what you're doing and thank you for joining us with an update.

00:00:55.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:00:56.000 Good to be with you again.

00:00:57.000 Thank you.

00:00:58.000 You bet.

00:00:58.000 Tell us what's going on.

00:01:01.000 Well, I'm just getting flooded by emails from people all over the country and in our state and even A few legislators.

00:01:09.000 The list is growing.

00:01:10.000 I think it's about 30 or so now.

00:01:12.000 And it looks like it's just going to keep growing of states that have filed a 10th Amendment resolution or something like it.

00:01:19.000 And I'm real encouraged.

00:01:20.000 I think things are moving in a good direction right now in our country at the state level.

00:01:27.000 Well, that said, I'm sure you know that the Attorney General's announced they are going to introduce soon an expanded assault weapons ban, and they've got gun registration, gun bans in there, psychological federal testing.

00:01:39.000 I mean, they're moving quick, so it's a good thing the states are moving to block it.

00:01:44.000 Yes, and you know, I'm getting tired of this.

00:01:46.000 I think what the people need to do, and I think state legislators need to do, we need to face up to the fact that we have people in office at the federal and state level that are violating the Supreme Law of the Land, and other laws for that matter, and we need to call them what they are.

00:02:03.000 They're law breakers.

00:02:05.000 They are the ones that are breaking the law.

00:02:07.000 No one wants to really say that.

00:02:09.000 I don't find any great pleasure in saying that, in addressing this problem in this way, but I think it's time that we do that, because we can't continue to give ground away to those that will violate the Supreme Law of the Land and put up laws that are in violation of it and really are no laws at all you can't have a supreme law of the land that says and lays out what every

00:02:35.000 level of government and individuals within the government can and cannot do, and then allow those individuals to then violate that and just make it up as they go along.

00:02:43.000 Well, we know what they're doing.

00:02:45.000 We know in the Jesse Trinidad murder case, we have via the lawsuits, this is made national news, his internal memos that the Attorney General, his Deputy Attorney General under Clinton, covering up and saying this is a national security matter, this OKC thing, We've got to pull out all the stops.

00:03:02.000 This is like a D-Day operation.

00:03:04.000 This is national security, highest level.

00:03:07.000 We've got to cover this up.

00:03:09.000 Now, this is a really nasty character.

00:03:12.000 Well, you know, we can fix these problems in this country.

00:03:14.000 There's so many examples in Oklahoma City bombing cases.

00:03:18.000 A very good one to thank God for Jesse Trinidad and people like him that won't let go and they keep fighting this thing and dig more and more evidence out.

00:03:26.000 But there's more than enough evidence for the people to see that their government is out of control.

00:03:31.000 You know, the difficulty is knowing that there's a lot of good people in government.

00:03:35.000 There are, and probably a lot more than there are good.

00:03:37.000 There's no question about that.

00:03:39.000 But you keep putting these pieces in place of laws and regulations and the bad players in the government, and you allow an opportunity for people to take advantage of it.

00:03:51.000 You know, I heard a guy on a radio show that was a call-in just a few days ago, and he was talking about His father-in-law, who was born in 1900, died in 1999.

00:04:01.000 He was 99 years old.

00:04:03.000 German, lived in Germany all of his life, lived through both World Wars.

00:04:07.000 And his son-in-law was asking him, as the son-in-law was doing a doctorate and putting a paper together, he interviewed him for that paper that he was preparing, and he asked him what it was like between the two World Wars, World War I and World War II.

00:04:21.000 And among some of the things he said, he said that the father, who was an attorney, by the He said, you know, people knew it was coming, but what happened is once they got all these little, they took all these little incremental steps and got these laws in place, it made it very, very difficult, almost impossible to stop it, because people allowed it to happen step by step.

00:04:42.000 And it's easy for us to think in a defeatist way, and sometimes we as Christians will even think, well, it says in the Bible that in the end times this, that, or the other, you know, whatever scenario, whatever interpretation.

00:04:55.000 And then think in terms of, well, it's going to happen.

00:04:57.000 There's nothing we can do to stop it or it's too hard to stop.

00:05:00.000 That's just defeatist thinking.

00:05:02.000 We must overcome that kind of thinking and stand up to these things that are going on in our society because we can stop this from happening.

00:05:13.000 We can do it peacefully without any kind of violent action needing or having to be taken later on down the road.

00:05:19.000 And I agree.

00:05:20.000 The United States really is the only place ever that had, you know, the closest you can get to true freedom and liberty.

00:05:25.000 And it had never been done before and we did it here and look how it's just more dirt.

00:05:29.000 This country doesn't have that much resources compared to Mexico or other places that are enslaved.

00:05:34.000 It was because that spirit of liberty and that trailblazing idea and that idea that of entrepreneurial spirit and so many other things that That adventure spirit that this country became so wealthy so all the evil moved here to take over that engine and now they've done that they're trying to secure the robbery, the hijacking they've committed and they're so openly criminal.

00:05:58.000 I mean it's turning out that most of Obama's administration just doesn't even pay taxes.

00:06:02.000 And that is his Chief of Staff and the head of the Treasury, and they just don't care.

00:06:06.000 And they're openly setting up youth brigades and spy forces in FEMA camps.

00:06:12.000 I mean, but thank God the states are moving to block it.

00:06:16.000 And if the people get excited about this and take action, there's nothing that can really stop us.

00:06:21.000 Well, and here's what I think is another point of information that should be encouraging to people.

00:06:28.000 And if they will take advantage of it, it can pay a lot of dividends.

00:06:31.000 The fact that there's a lot of good state legislators out there, some of them are more knowledgeable than what we think or know, and some of them are not, but they're pretty good people.

00:06:41.000 And if people will go and educate them, will communicate with them, or just give them the support in a lot of cases, give them the support, let them know you're there, and that you want them to take these actions like oppose Real ID Act and other things like that, support constitutional legislation.

00:06:59.000 And a return to the Constitution.

00:07:01.000 They will stand up and do that if people will just back them up.

00:07:05.000 Exactly what happened is good people stood down and said, oh, America's fine.

00:07:08.000 We won World War II.

00:07:09.000 We're the good guys.

00:07:10.000 And then the evil just took over.

00:07:12.000 If we just stop sucking our thumbs and stop saying it's too big a problem and having this defeatist attitude, We can't take things back. 0.94

00:07:19.000 But if we don't, folks, some of the worst criminals in history are now in control of our society. 0.94

00:07:24.000 Foreign banks are openly looting us.

00:07:26.000 And now, we've got you here today.

00:07:27.000 You got the resolution passed in the House.

00:07:29.000 Tell us how that fight went.

00:07:31.000 And then now it's going to the Senate and the State Senator, your colleague, He told me yesterday on air that it looks like it's got a good chance of passing.

00:07:38.000 So tell us how that process of passing state sovereignty declaration, what's in it, and then now where it's going, how we carry it.

00:07:45.000 We've got the ball down to the one yard line and we've got one down here.

00:07:50.000 How do we get across it?

00:07:52.000 Well, here in Oklahoma it's in good hands over the Senate with Senator Brogdon.

00:07:56.000 He's going to punch it on over the goal line over there and then it's done.

00:07:59.000 And I think that's going to happen in the next couple of weeks.

00:08:02.000 Um, and we'll probably be the first state to pass it out of both bodies.

00:08:06.000 Um, so it's moving down the road real well.

00:08:08.000 We captured, the Republicans captured the Senate, so that puts us in a much better position to be able to pass legislation like this.

00:08:16.000 People are becoming more aware and informed, and I'm talking again about legislators.

00:08:21.000 Um, the people here in Oklahoma, there's some organizations that have come together and just individuals that have come out to, you know, lobby and inform their legislators about They're interested in the 10th Amendment resolution and other legislation that they're either for or against because it's protecting their rights or it's opposing laws that are bad for their constitutional rights.

00:08:43.000 And those groups have become pretty powerful here in Oklahoma.

00:08:48.000 I know other states can do the same thing.

00:08:50.000 People just organize and we'd be willing to help them right here in Oklahoma.

00:08:50.000 That's right.

00:08:55.000 These groups, myself, there's a lot of folks that are doing a great job in Oklahoma.

00:09:01.000 And if you don't have something going in your state, you can easily get something going and get a lot of people that think alike to come together and start lobbying your legislature.

00:09:09.000 It'll pay off.

00:09:10.000 Resistance is victory.

00:09:14.000 Resistance is victory.

00:09:16.000 And that's what's so scary about this is that people don't realize the power they have.

00:09:20.000 And when I interview representatives from all over the country, I mean all over the nation, the east, the south, the west, the central states, I mean, these are Democrats and Republicans, and they know about the FEMA camps, and they know the bill numbers.

00:09:33.000 They know about the PDD-51.

00:09:35.000 They know about the gun confiscation.

00:09:37.000 They know about the New World Order. 0.81

00:09:38.000 They know the foreign banks are taking over.

00:09:41.000 They know, and they tell me that the word is spreading fast, and folks, that's the cadres of leadership that now fully know we have a criminal federal government.

00:09:53.000 And if we just put women in their sails on the good ship of liberty, we are unstoppable. 1.00

00:09:59.000 I'm telling you, the education level's high enough now that if they pull a false flag, or whatever, to try to attack the states or, you know, pose as our saviors to bring in martial law, I don't think it's going to work.

00:10:10.000 But the foreign banks are going for broke.

00:10:12.000 They've engaged in so many crimes now, they've got to bring in a total police state to secure their ill-gotten gain.

00:10:19.000 Can you speak to that, sir?

00:10:21.000 Well, I think, again, I think if people will work at the state level with their state legislators, their House members and Senate members, that's going to pay big dividends.

00:10:32.000 I just came out of a meeting with our assistant floor leaders, which I'm one of here in the House, and we have a weekly meeting.

00:10:39.000 We review legislation and things that are going on and talk about various topics.

00:10:44.000 And we had some good discussions about some of these kinds of issues, including the Real ID Act.

00:10:50.000 biometric and privacy issues and things like that.

00:10:55.000 And again, legislators are just like people that you work with every day and deal with every day.

00:11:01.000 They just need the information.

00:11:03.000 They just need good, solid information.

00:11:06.000 And they need some alternatives instead of, I don't think there's anything wrong with being against stuff, but you hear people come out and say, "Well, you guys are just against things all the time." Well, okay, if that's a problem for some people, let's give them some alternatives.

00:11:19.000 In addition to being against, like, the real ID, let's tell them what the alternative is that would be better.

00:11:25.000 And there are some good alternatives out there.

00:11:28.000 How about we're for the right to keep and bear arms and protect ourselves?

00:11:31.000 We're for sovereignty.

00:11:32.000 We're for saving the Republic.

00:11:34.000 We're for not letting offshore banks hijack us.

00:11:38.000 Right.

00:11:40.000 Charles Key, stay with me one more segment.

00:11:41.000 I want to come back and give out your website and again, call the listeners to put pressure on any key personnel, any key representatives, servants in the Oklahoma Senate because I'm told this vote is coming up quick and this will send shockwaves across the land.

00:11:56.000 Stay with us.

00:11:56.000 With us, we're making history thanks to great leaders like Charles Key.

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00:16:03.000 Our precious Second Amendment, purchased with the blood of our founders, is under total assault. is under total assault.

00:16:22.000 Oh, no.

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00:16:40.000 Representative Charles Key, who masterminded taking action.

00:16:44.000 Many other states are doing it.

00:16:45.000 It's upwards of 30 now.

00:16:46.000 Many of them are passing or preparing to pass it.

00:16:48.000 It's passed the House.

00:16:49.000 It's now going into the Oklahoma Senate.

00:16:52.000 Again, this will be another precedent.

00:16:53.000 This will legitimize it more as we move forward.

00:16:56.000 These are not weak resolutions.

00:16:57.000 These are strong declarations of putting the criminals on notice.

00:17:01.000 How do we help you get this passed, sir?

00:17:04.000 Right now, the focus needs to be on the Oklahoma State Senate.

00:17:08.000 If people will call or email state senators in Oklahoma, because they're going to be taking this up in their committee maybe this coming week, and then on the floor right away as soon as they pass it out of committee.

00:17:20.000 Once it passes the Senate, it does not go to the governor.

00:17:22.000 It's done.

00:17:23.000 It's passed.

00:17:24.000 It's law.

00:17:25.000 So we need to put the pressure on the Senate.

00:17:28.000 Let them know that the people really want this.

00:17:30.000 They want them to pass it.

00:17:31.000 They want them to pass it soon.

00:17:32.000 Give folks the bill number in the Senate.

00:17:35.000 It is the same bill.

00:17:36.000 It's H.J.R.

00:17:37.000 1003.

00:17:38.000 And Randy Brogdon does have another bill that is over there.

00:17:44.000 It's S.J.R.

00:17:45.000 10.

00:17:46.000 So mine that's already passed and is kind of on the fast track is H.J.R. 1003.

00:17:54.000 His bill is S.J.R.

00:17:56.000 10.

00:17:57.000 And he said they may try tricks, uh, because they think that you guys have the votes in the Senate, tricks, parliamentary tricks, to shoot it down.

00:18:04.000 What are those tricks?

00:18:07.000 Well, I didn't get to hear the interview, but, um, you know, they can try to, you know, there's different little procedures you can, you can pull, um, kind of caught me off guard on that one.

00:18:18.000 They can attach it to other bills that aren't popular?

00:18:22.000 Yeah.

00:18:23.000 I'll be surprised if they do that, but I'll believe anything anymore, but I just don't expect that's going to happen, and especially if people will continue to call and email.

00:18:31.000 We've gotten so many, and I appreciate it so much, but we can't slow down now.

00:18:35.000 We've got to pick it up, take it up to another level.

00:18:38.000 I don't think they'll do it.

00:18:39.000 I think people are starting to get the opinion.

00:18:40.000 I'm getting comments from legislators in Oklahoma just left and right.

00:18:45.000 They're being, you know... Put your foot down on the pedal, son.

00:18:49.000 Never mind them brakes.

00:18:50.000 Let it all hang out, because we've got a run to make.

00:18:54.000 Yeah.

00:18:56.000 Yeah, if things are going well, let's just keep it up.

00:18:58.000 Take it up to another level.

00:19:00.000 Absolutely.

00:19:02.000 Son, put your foot down on the pedal, never mind them brakes, because the globalists are coming.

00:19:07.000 But I think this preemptive letting the feds know, and I agree with you, we've got to point out, I mean, have you read how many of his administration don't even pay taxes and just thumb their nose?

00:19:17.000 I mean, these people are out of control.

00:19:19.000 And that's where we're going.

00:19:19.000 When you ignore the Constitution, When you ignore the supreme law of the land, in other words, when you don't have a set of rules and laws that are above everything else, it's called the rule of law.

00:19:32.000 When you don't have laws that everyone has to follow and they're the same for everyone, they're not a different set for the leaders or the elitist or the politicians and another set for the people.

00:19:44.000 Then things work well that way, but when you don't have that, when you have that violated, then what you devolve to is you devolve to leaders that do whatever they want to do, and then they have these laws that they apply to us whenever they want to apply them.

00:19:58.000 And that's where we're going.

00:20:00.000 We're practically there.

00:20:01.000 And if the people don't stand up and put their foot down and stop this, It's just going to be, it's going to be like chaos.

00:20:09.000 And the enemy is testing the water.

00:20:11.000 They were about to pass a flatulence tax on all farm animals, and then there was so much pressure they backed off.

00:20:17.000 They were setting up their Napa Superhighways, they've backed off for now, but then people say, well they're back again.

00:20:23.000 Yeah, it's an eternal fight.

00:20:25.000 The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance.

00:20:28.000 Give us your website, give us contact info for folks that want to support you, sir.

00:20:32.000 My website is charleskey.com.

00:20:35.000 My email is Charles.Keye at OKHouse.gov.

00:20:43.000 And what about folks that aren't on the computer?

00:20:45.000 Phone number?

00:20:46.000 Phone number would be 405-557-3333.

00:20:51.000 7354.

00:20:52.000 Well, you're volunteering for a lot to help listeners try to package something for the, what is it, 20 states that haven't introduced this stuff now.

00:21:01.000 This is very exciting and just God bless you and others that are doing this, Charles K. Well, I appreciate it, Alex.

00:21:08.000 You know, I think, I actually think the number's up to 29 right now.

00:21:11.000 It might be 30.

00:21:11.000 It's 30, yeah.

00:21:13.000 Yeah.

00:21:15.000 And I know, I know some other states, Florida's very close to having a bill West Virginia is very close, and I'm sure somebody else is out there getting ready to file some things that we don't know about.

00:21:26.000 Alright, I hope to talk to you next week.

00:21:28.000 I mean, how soon can this be passed?

00:21:31.000 I think Broderick can get the two bills passed over the Senate next week, but I don't know what their schedule is.

00:21:37.000 But it's possible it can be done next week.

00:21:40.000 Well, let's hope the feds don't do what they did in 95. 0.87

00:21:42.000 Charles Key, we'll talk to you soon.

00:21:43.000 We salute you.

00:21:44.000 Godspeed.

00:21:45.000 Thank you.

00:21:46.000 Appreciate it.

00:21:47.000 You bet.

00:21:47.000 We'll come right back with your phone calls and how the Obama administration doesn't pay taxes.

00:21:51.000 Taxes?

00:21:52.000 We don't need no stinking taxes. 0.66

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00:23:12.000 Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?

00:23:14.000 How do the American people know that 9-11 wasn't staged, wasn't engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR?

00:23:21.000 The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.

00:23:30.000 Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.

00:23:36.000 An inside job.

00:23:39.000 How dare you?

00:23:42.000 If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.

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00:26:19.000 Okay, let's go to your phone calls.

00:26:21.000 Wilson in New York.

00:26:23.000 You're on the air, Wilson.

00:26:24.000 I hear you breathing, Wilson.

00:26:34.000 Let's talk to Mark in Oregon.

00:26:36.000 Mark, you're on the air.

00:26:38.000 Morning, Brother Alex.

00:26:39.000 How are you doing?

00:26:40.000 All right, Mark.

00:26:42.000 Alex, last night, George Norrie had on a guest that he's had on before, a man named Roger Tolsis.

00:26:50.000 I don't know if you're familiar with him, but he's a professional security analyst and researcher, and he says that an individual's DNA can now be used to tailor-make an electromagnetic signal, which is transmitted to the individual That they want to transmit it to, they can direct this to an individual.

00:27:12.000 And that this signal then interacts with the person's genetic structure.

00:27:16.000 Yeah, they have electro, the DNA is electrochemical, and I know DARPA and the Pentagon have worked on systems, I didn't know they could tailor it down to DNA, but they do have systems that they can beam you with it off and on from one of their surveillance blimps, and then you get cancer.

00:27:31.000 Yes, and that's very similar to what you're speaking of, but now they've got it to where they can As long as they have a DNA sample, and I, you know, when I think of what he said last night, I think of, you know, you very well publicized the fact that they've been taking blood samples from babies at birth, basically, since 1973, I think you said.

00:27:50.000 Yeah, the Austin American State's been said for 44 years.

00:27:53.000 We have the government documents.

00:27:55.000 It's, for instance, since 36 years ago, all over the western world, and it's held in United Nations and Cold Spring Harbor eugenics laboratories publicly. 0.86

00:28:05.000 Yes.

00:28:05.000 So... So, I mean, it is being held by those that openly say 80% of us at least need to be killed.

00:28:11.000 Yes, at least.

00:28:12.000 More like that.

00:28:12.000 And they illegally did it.

00:28:13.000 I mean, it's admitted it's illegal.

00:28:15.000 But they just, it's criminal. 0.96

00:28:16.000 They're criminals.

00:28:17.000 Yes, they step right out in the open. 0.98

00:28:18.000 They, of course, it's their same old saw these days.

00:28:21.000 Where they're looking at it from is they have the brute force.

00:28:24.000 They can do anything they want to do.

00:28:26.000 They have the means with which to enslave mankind, they feel in their minds, I believe.

00:28:32.000 As we speak here.

00:28:33.000 They can let the hammer down any time.

00:28:36.000 That's their attitude and they have an agenda to fulfill.

00:28:39.000 It gets into deeper things as to why they don't move faster, but I believe at the top there's God.

00:28:46.000 He controls them.

00:28:47.000 But Alex, when it comes to this, as well as chemtrails and when it comes to These so-called cell phone towers that they have constructed, which also have this capability.

00:28:56.000 Okay, DARPA has openly said, this was in the Baltimore Sun eight years ago, and then I saw it again a few months ago, that they are, DARPA is testing towers, but they said just to calm the public during emergencies.

00:29:11.000 They've got frequencies.

00:29:12.000 I mean, this is mainstream news.

00:29:13.000 We're in 2009, boys and girls.

00:29:16.000 And, I mean, that sounds like freedom, having mind control towers.

00:29:19.000 I appreciate your call.

00:29:20.000 I mean, that's reasonable.

00:29:22.000 These are nice people.

00:29:23.000 Thank you, Mark.

00:29:24.000 Matt in Missouri, you bet.

00:29:24.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:29:25.000 Matt in Missouri, you're on the air.

00:29:26.000 Go ahead.

00:29:28.000 Hey, Alex.

00:29:29.000 Hi.

00:29:30.000 I know you have representative guests on from here in Missouri.

00:29:36.000 Yes.

00:29:37.000 And Jerry's getting past a lot of anti-New World Order Legislation here in Missouri.

00:29:45.000 We've got HB 361, which is the Anti-Real ID Act.

00:29:54.000 Which is not to be used against the illegals.

00:29:56.000 It's for citizens.

00:29:57.000 The illegals are exempt. 1.00

00:29:59.000 They just got that passed out of committee.

00:30:00.000 Just like they have federal ID requirements to get a federal job or contract, but the illegals are exempt. 1.00

00:30:06.000 That is in the stimulus bill.

00:30:08.000 Right.

00:30:10.000 And you just got that passed out of committee, so if we could have help Everybody should look at the list of states that are up on InfoWars.com and they should call all those states and make sure it gets passed.

00:30:23.000 And of course you've got ACR 13 which is the 10th Amendment one that you've had one about and you've got several others that are... And if I could also make a point, you know you had the caller earlier with some stuff on the biblical stuff.

00:30:43.000 Like Representative Keith said earlier, you know, we've got to fight this.

00:30:46.000 There's not going to be any pre-tribulation rapture.

00:30:49.000 It's very clear about that.

00:30:50.000 There's nowhere in there that says anything about a rapture.

00:30:54.000 Look, look, the globalists over a hundred years ago financed all this, and they financed these movies and these books.

00:31:00.000 And literally, you go to church, it's a bunch of thumbsuckers worshipping the government, saying, praise God, things are getting bad, we'll soon be out of here.

00:31:07.000 It's cult members, they're not Christians. 1.00

00:31:09.000 I hear you and I appreciate your call. 0.96

00:31:11.000 And I'm sick of them.

00:31:13.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Matt in... We just talked to Matt.

00:31:16.000 Let's talk to Lindsey in Idaho. 0.97

00:31:17.000 Lindsey, you're on the air.

00:31:19.000 Hello, Alex.

00:31:20.000 Hello, Lindsey. 0.98

00:31:21.000 How are you today?

00:31:22.000 Good.

00:31:23.000 Ah, just a pleasant surprise.

00:31:27.000 I have on my home page on my computer is the MSN, you know, home page.

00:31:32.000 And they have, of course, the news, the sports, and the money section, which I always watch.

00:31:37.000 Number one article right now is Fear Factor Gun Sales on the Rise.

00:31:44.000 And I thought, okay, that looks like an interesting article.

00:31:47.000 Let's see what it is.

00:31:48.000 And I click over to it, and this guy's talking about in this time of the stock market and all that Smith & Wesson, Ruger and Cabela's are all making tremendous profits because of gun sales and so forth.

00:32:03.000 Is that MSNBC?

00:32:04.000 Yeah.

00:32:07.000 MSNBC.com?

00:32:09.000 Yeah, www.msn.com is the homepage.

00:32:15.000 And you'll see it under money.

00:32:16.000 So I went and I started to read the article.

00:32:19.000 There's about a half a dozen other articles here about jobs and surfing your way through it, and they have here about the number of comments and views On this particular article, there are 145,000 views.

00:32:36.000 No other article has gotten more than maybe 2,000 or 3,000, some less than 1,000.

00:32:40.000 No, no, everything is Second Amendment now.

00:32:42.000 Folks are really waking up with these dirtbags going after our guns.

00:32:45.000 Yeah, this is what I'm saying.

00:32:47.000 And so I was curious.

00:32:48.000 I said, well, let's go to the comments.

00:32:49.000 I want to see what some of the American people are...

00:32:52.000 Writing in to MSN on this article.

00:32:54.000 And it's all, it's New World Order, you'll never get our guns, states' rights, and I go to ABC News, I go everywhere.

00:33:00.000 When the Wall Street Journal says we need world government, every comment of thousands is you're gonna be defeated, globalists.

00:33:06.000 But let me guess, what did it say?

00:33:08.000 This was pleasant.

00:33:09.000 Just several of these comments, and all I'm gonna say is this, out of the hundreds and hundreds, there's like 60 pages now of comments.

00:33:16.000 The majority of the people What is this under on MSN.com?

00:33:20.000 I'm on it right now.

00:33:21.000 by what they're saying, that they're not gun nuts and all this, but they are educated people and they read other things and listen to other things besides mainstream media.

00:33:34.000 Some have mentioned things like, go ahead, take the Kool-Aid.

00:33:37.000 Well, you don't hear that on mainstream too often.

00:33:40.000 What is this under on MSN.com?

00:33:42.000 I'm on it right now.

00:33:43.000 What section?

00:33:44.000 The homepage, MSN.com.

00:33:47.000 You go down, it's just to the bottom right.

00:33:52.000 What's the subsection?

00:33:54.000 Fear Factor, I found it.

00:33:56.000 Yeah.

00:33:57.000 Okay.

00:33:58.000 You see it now?

00:33:58.000 It says Fear Factor Gun Sales.

00:34:00.000 You click on that.

00:34:01.000 Now I'm on it.

00:34:02.000 And it goes to the article.

00:34:04.000 And of course, the guy, he's talking about money in the stocks, and this was, you know, I guess the drive of the article.

00:34:10.000 But it was like I said here where it says discussed 580 comments and 145,000 views.

00:34:17.000 People are waking up.

00:34:21.000 That's the whole key.

00:34:22.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

00:34:24.000 But they're going to stage terror attacks soon to try to get people to go back into fear.

00:34:29.000 So we need to expose who's going to be behind the terror so when they carry it out that only wakes people up.

00:34:34.000 Go ahead.

00:34:35.000 Absolutely.

00:34:35.000 Well, again, I'll let you go.

00:34:38.000 I know you're a busy man.

00:34:38.000 You've got other people with smarter things than I do.

00:34:41.000 Oh, no.

00:34:41.000 Great point.

00:34:42.000 Appreciate your call.

00:34:44.000 Let's go ahead and take one more, and then we're going to get our guest online.

00:34:47.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Greg in California.

00:34:51.000 Greg, you're on the air.

00:34:52.000 Hey, thanks for being there, Alex.

00:34:55.000 I do have one question, though.

00:34:55.000 Thank you.

00:34:56.000 You say always to question things, and secondly, most important, follow the money trail.

00:35:02.000 I'm wondering what happened to the CAFR proposal by Walter Buren.

00:35:08.000 Why, if Congress is so supportive of instituting all these resolutions, they don't bring these two-thirds of the money they have available into supporting things that are going to support the Constitution and bring back Well, we need to get my film, Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports, exposed out to people.

00:35:30.000 These state legislatures, not the Congress, federally, are being educated by us right now.

00:35:36.000 And so you need to educate them about the double set of books.

00:35:39.000 Some of them know, a lot of them don't.

00:35:40.000 The committee chairman, a lot of people do.

00:35:42.000 And we need to expose the scam and call for criminal investigations of the banking and state and federal and county financing systems, and that's what we call for here.

00:35:52.000 Okay, so how can we best support that, uh, what, uh, education?

00:35:58.000 Yeah, I think you need to write your own article with basic facts, or send them links to my film free on Google or YouTube, and go to the legislature, bring them a copy, and it's all part of this awakening process.

00:36:14.000 Just like Charles Keith said, we need to point out just simply, these are criminals in the federal government, these are lawless thugs who are breaking the law.

00:36:22.000 point out they are the criminals.

00:36:22.000 That's my point.

00:36:24.000 They are illegitimate. 0.92

00:36:25.000 I mean, they're ridiculously criminal right out in the open. 0.95

00:36:28.000 Everything they're doing.

00:36:31.000 That's my point.

00:36:32.000 Do you know that Key and other people that are supporting these resolutions are knowledgeable about the CFR funds available, or are they...

00:36:42.000 Look, I'm not omnipresent and I appreciate your call.

00:36:46.000 They're doing the best they can.

00:36:48.000 They're anti-private federal reserve.

00:36:49.000 That means they're anti-comprehensive financial report.

00:36:52.000 And I would imagine a lot of them are aware of it.

00:36:54.000 And we're trying as hard as we can.

00:36:56.000 So you need to call them.

00:36:57.000 You need to ask them.

00:36:59.000 You need to do it.

00:37:00.000 Okay?

00:37:02.000 We're trying as hard as we can to do the best job we can here.

00:37:05.000 I assure you of that.

00:37:10.000 I just told you, you know, you move the ball.

00:37:12.000 You have the power.

00:37:13.000 You're the people.

00:37:15.000 Not me.

00:37:16.000 I said I made a film.

00:37:17.000 I made it for free.

00:37:18.000 I did everything I could.

00:37:19.000 I have guests on about it all the time.

00:37:21.000 And I kind of get the idea of, you know, there's like, ooh, something stinky in Denmark.

00:37:25.000 You make it.

00:37:26.000 You go.

00:37:27.000 You do it.

00:37:28.000 You know, let's abolish the Federal Reserve.

00:37:30.000 Let's support Ron Paul's bill to do that.

00:37:33.000 Let's do it, man!

00:37:34.000 Let's do it!

00:37:38.000 Okay, I'm excited for the next hour and 15 minutes to have David Bay and Chris Pinto of Cutting Edge Ministries, and I have carried now three of their films.

00:37:56.000 The latest documentary is right here, Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings, Volume 3, Eye of the Phoenix, Secrets of the Dollar Bill.

00:38:03.000 It's available right now at InfoWars.com on the online video bookstore.

00:38:07.000 And I've seen all three of the films.

00:38:09.000 These are with actors, well-directed.

00:38:10.000 I can't believe how good they are for the budget they've got.

00:38:13.000 I mean, this is real filmmaking, and it's like better than Discovery Channel or History Channel when you see those history shows.

00:38:20.000 Very well done.

00:38:22.000 Eye of the Phoenix is the third volume in the Secret Mysteries series.

00:38:25.000 Unfolding the Hidden Layers of America's Beginnings, Part 3 exposes more on the founding of America with a focus on the history of the dollar bill.

00:38:33.000 We'll be taking your calls on this next hour, but let's punch this up on screen so the people watching prisonplanet.tv live, simulcast, the radio show can see that.

00:38:42.000 We'll put a link up to the shopping cart for folks.

00:38:47.000 We can also call toll free to get it at 888-253-3139.

00:38:52.000 But we'll talk more about that.

00:38:54.000 Let's start breaking this down right now and kind of briefly recap the first two films and now this third film.

00:39:00.000 David Bay and Chris Pinto, thank you for coming on, man.

00:39:03.000 Well, thank you very much.

00:39:04.000 Thanks for having us, Alex.

00:39:06.000 You bet, good to have you here.

00:39:08.000 Who should I start with first?

00:39:11.000 I don't know, cue your boys in there, Alex.

00:39:15.000 Are you guys on the same phone line together?

00:39:17.000 No.

00:39:17.000 No, separate phone lines.

00:39:20.000 Okay, well let's just start with, now you guys have directed these together, some are directed just by Pinto, others are directed together.

00:39:27.000 Tell me about the new film, just a boil down of Eye of the Phoenix, Secrets of the Dollar Bill.

00:39:32.000 Go ahead, Chris.

00:39:33.000 Well, Eye of the Phoenix is...

00:39:36.000 The research for this really began when we started doing the research for Part 1, and we were interviewing kind of our chief expert, a guy named Buff Perry.

00:39:47.000 And Buff Perry has very close associations with the Rorick Museum, and this guy Nicholas Rorick, at least the memory of Rorick and the history of him and his family, and his affiliation with the FDR administration, and all of the links between Rorick, FDR, Henry Wallace, who was the Secretary of Agriculture and who became the Vice President.

00:40:11.000 And then, of course, all of their links to Manly P. Hall, who's, you know, considered the masonry's greatest philosopher and so on.

00:40:19.000 But all of these guys were interacting with each other in the 1920s and 30s, in the years prior to FDR making the decision to put the Great Seal on the back of the dollar bill and then to overhaul the whole design of the dollar and to come in with all the intricacies that are now there.

00:40:38.000 And with these guys, this is a public ritual of putting this on the dollar bill.

00:40:43.000 It had been the secret seal for a long time.

00:40:45.000 They believe this meant that a great part of their New Order or New World Order had been built?

00:40:52.000 Well, that's the way that it comes across.

00:40:54.000 If you read the official history from the State Department, and we document it in the film,

00:40:59.000 The account that the State Department gives on the history of the Great Seal, and it going to the back of the dollar bill, talks about how Henry Wallace saw it, and Wallace apparently, at least in the account, acts as though he'd never seen it before, and he thought it was very powerful, and of course he was a 32nd degree mason, and so he brought it to FDR, who was also a 32nd degree mason at the time, and FDR reacted to it as though he had never seen it,

00:41:27.000 And they both believe that the New Order of the Ages, the Novus Ordo Seclorum, and FDR's idea for the New Deal were one and the same thing.

00:41:37.000 And now they're saying we're on the verge of a global New Deal, which is a global bank ruling the United States and every other country in the world.

00:41:45.000 This is being trumpeted everywhere, so it's key to study this to understand now they believe they're finally bringing in the final world government.

00:41:53.000 Yeah, and they're repeatedly associating Barack Obama with FDR, and they're calling him the next FDR.

00:41:59.000 And he said three times in his acceptance speech, in his swearing-in speech, the new age is here.

00:42:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:42:08.000 He's continually making reference to the new age.

00:42:11.000 It's almost like they're totally letting their hair down at this point, and just coming out with it, that yes, this is what they've planned to do all along.

00:42:20.000 And they're becoming more and more open about it.

00:42:23.000 Now, of course, this new age means most of us are going to be killed, but right now everybody's giggling and happily running down to the guillotines, not having an idea that... But let's go to the film when we come back.

00:42:34.000 This is very exciting.

00:42:35.000 The film is excellent.

00:42:37.000 Just amazing.

00:42:38.000 Eye of the Phoenix, Secrets of the Dollar Bill.

00:42:39.000 Get it at Infowars.com.

00:42:41.000 Show it to your pastor.

00:42:42.000 Show it to your neighbors.

00:42:43.000 Give it to low-level Masons or high-level Masons and ask them, you know, what do you think of this?

00:42:48.000 Most masons aren't bad people, they're just deceived. 1.00

00:42:52.000 It's just like any gang system or any intelligence operation, it's highly compartmentalized.

00:42:56.000 Alright, we'll come back with Eye of the Phoenix, Secrets of the Dollar Bill, right after this break.

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00:46:26.000 Their third film, just so well done.

00:46:28.000 Secret Messages of America's Beginnings, Volume 3, I or the Phoenix, Secrets of the Dollar Bill.

00:46:34.000 so well but he could play a guitar just like a ring and a bell go go go johnny go go chris pinto david bay are our guests their third film just so well done secret message of america's beginnings volume three i or the phoenix secrets of the dollar bill you know i shouldn't even really ask a lot of I've researched this, but you guys have gone to another level of that, a different perspective.

00:47:00.000 Just break down the basics, and then let's go through what this I is, what the New World Order is, why they put it on the dollar bill, and then how this ties into Obama today, and go through some of the film itself.

00:47:12.000 It's just amazing.

00:47:13.000 You guys, go ahead.

00:47:14.000 You've got the floor.

00:47:18.000 Go ahead, David.

00:47:20.000 Well, we show that the same message that we told in Riddles and Stone is shown in the medium of the Dollar Bill,

00:47:33.000 and that is that the Masonic fraternity and that is that the Masonic fraternity back in 1776 in that era decided to establish America as the new Atlantis, as a nation that would gradually lead the rest of the world into the new world order and then stage their Masonic Messiah.

00:47:59.000 That's the message of the street layouts and the paintings and the sculptures of Washington, D.C., as we told in Riddleton Stone, and that's the message on the dollar bill.

00:48:10.000 You know, all the symbolisms of the one dollar bill.

00:48:13.000 It's the same message, it's the same story.

00:48:16.000 And regarding the currency itself, at the end of this video, we show that the eagle on the back of the dollar bill was really the Egyptian Phoenix Bird, and of course, that bird at the appointed time, you know, dies, and it's expected to die, and its body bursts into flame, and out of the ashes comes a new Phoenix Bird.

00:48:44.000 And we show that, you know, our belief That the dollar bill was designed to be as the phoenix bird and at the end of the period go into destruction and dissolve and out of that destruction will come the global currency and the global new world order.

00:49:02.000 And Albert Pike wrote this in the 1760s and 70s, founder of the Klan, Confederate General, Grand Commander.

00:49:10.000 Manly P. Hall wrote this, and I talked to Masons, and they don't even know about this.

00:49:14.000 I mean, they're not being secretive, they just deny it and can't believe it because they're porch Masons. 1.00

00:49:19.000 And now we're here, the destruction.

00:49:21.000 Your take on this, Chris Pinto.

00:49:25.000 Well, I think the important part about the symbolism of the Phoenix, especially as it pertains to FDR's administration, is that Manly Hall was the guy who was writing all of this stuff in his books.

00:49:37.000 He was the one who was describing the American Eagle as an Egyptian Phoenix bird.

00:49:42.000 That it was a cleverly disguised phoenix and all of the symbolism that goes with it.

00:49:48.000 Now FDR, right after the bombing of Pearl Harbor apparently, sent emissaries to Manly Hall's library to microfiche all of his materials.

00:49:58.000 And the chief things that Hall was writing about During that era had to do with the secret destiny of America and how secret societies had planned America as the new Atlantis and that it was going to develop into this one world democratic system, supposedly.

00:50:17.000 And this was all what FDR seems to have been influenced by because he's talking about the destiny of America in his writings.

00:50:25.000 Well, we've got a break, back in one minute.

00:50:28.000 We see the same thing from, of course, Woodrow Wilson writing the book, The New World Order, and then before he died saying, I was conned, it's all a scam, it's evil.

00:50:37.000 Because they suck in people about how loving and good it is, but at the end they find out it's a very dark God.

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00:52:27.000 David Bay, Chris Pinto.

00:52:27.000 Okay.

00:52:30.000 Eye of the Phoenix, Seekers of the Dollar Bill.

00:52:33.000 You were continuing, Chris, with the destruction of the United States, the rise of world government.

00:52:40.000 Please continue.

00:52:42.000 Yeah, it's just very interesting.

00:52:43.000 You know, I've been reading articles just about the planned destruction of America.

00:52:48.000 In fact, there was that book, I think, about ten years ago by James Wardner, by that title.

00:52:55.000 I remember when I first started hearing about this, it sounded too incredible to be believed.

00:53:00.000 A family member of mine called me, who had been skeptical about this, and then talked about watching a video presentation that dated back in 1995, where somebody was talking about the financial situation in America, and how they were planning the destruction of our economy.

00:53:18.000 And it seems too incredible to be believed, but then when the housing market crashed, And then you have China and France coming out calling for global currency and a new world order.

00:53:30.000 And then Henry Kissinger coming forward and talking about how Obama's positioned for the establishment of a new world order.

00:53:37.000 It's as though everything is happening right on cue, right according to some greater plan.

00:53:43.000 And I think the symbolism, we talk at great length about the

00:53:48.000 You know, the esoteric symbolism of the symbols on the dollar bill and what they may well have meant to men like Hall, to Nicholas Roerich, to Henry Wallace and FDR, and that collectively they would have symbolized this destruction of a, you know, of a phoenix that then leads to a rebirth, and that by destroying America's currency and possibly America itself,

00:54:15.000 I mean, there was just yesterday Glenn Beck on Fox News had a quote that was sent out by Rupert Murdoch.

00:54:23.000 I don't know if you guys caught this, but it was very interesting.

00:54:26.000 Yeah, we caught it about how this new order is upon us.

00:54:29.000 Right.

00:54:29.000 The new order is upon us, world government.

00:54:32.000 You go, I don't want that.

00:54:34.000 It does not exist.

00:54:35.000 Seize him.

00:54:37.000 Right, but it's just incredible how everybody is just stepping forward as though they all know what is supposed to happen right on cue, and now things move forward.

00:54:52.000 But yeah, that's general, but what we're talking about in Eye of the Phoenix is all of the undercurrent for these things and how they materialize through the 20th century.

00:55:03.000 We sidestepped carefully because a lot of the debates about the dollar bill have to do with the Founding Fathers of America and what the Founding Fathers intended.

00:55:12.000 And that's very difficult to discern when you focus on the Great Seal and try to figure out what they intended for the symbolism there.

00:55:21.000 Because you had 14 different men that worked on three committees, and then all of their work was handed over to one man, Charles Thompson.

00:55:30.000 Who then comes up with the final seal design and he submits it to Congress in a written form.

00:55:37.000 It's just a written description.

00:55:38.000 He had some preliminary sketches, but ultimately it was all just written down.

00:55:43.000 Congress approved that.

00:55:45.000 And then you had these realizations of the seal that came about, but they were all slightly different.

00:55:51.000 Uh, but the, the formal design, the one that you know, we see on the internet and that people write about and talk about that has all of this precision to it.

00:56:00.000 And this masonic and occult imagery, that was made formal during FDR's administration.

00:56:07.000 That's where things like the stars above the eagle's head went from being just a loose star field into a hexagram with a circle around it, like the Star of David and so on.

00:56:21.000 And so we've got one of our occult experts, Doc Marquis, who comes in and explains the series of hexagrams that he finds.

00:56:29.000 All right, we'll come back.

00:56:30.000 A long segment, plenty of time to talk.

00:56:32.000 When we come back, we'll break this down.

00:56:34.000 But reading the Bible, Solomon's seal, that's not the Star of David.

00:56:38.000 It's the seal they sealed the devils with, or the genies.

00:56:43.000 Whether you believe in this or not, that's what they say.

00:56:45.000 And they believe these symbols to have power need to be shown, like the Washington Monument, the big phallus, in the capitals of the breast of the goddess, with the goddess capping them.

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01:00:27.000 This film also deals with these theosophic societies that just carry on the ancient Babylon mission religion.

01:00:38.000 Who are searching the world for their Christ and they claim many different people have been this Maitreya.

01:00:45.000 One of them that they announced was their leader in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s is the guy that you see in the new Zeitgeist addendum and then all the symbolism and that.

01:00:53.000 So we also have a lot of these groups now coming into the Patriot or Awakening movement and they say that this, you know, this Christ is coming.

01:01:01.000 And the churches have been, you know, prepared for that.

01:01:04.000 They've been told to support Israel no matter what Israel does.

01:01:06.000 But the Bible says the Antichrist will be there first, posing. 0.88

01:01:09.000 So this is just amazing deception that's going on.

01:01:12.000 A lot of people then say, well, you know, the Babylon Mystery School people kind of planted the Bible as ideas to be a type of predictive programming to where this will be manifest.

01:01:24.000 But if you really read deeper, this is another counterfeit lie they're putting out.

01:01:31.000 And expanding on that, they believe that they need to get rid of the majority of the world's population.

01:01:40.000 So if you look at the fruits of the New World Order and the high-level masons, which is just one arm of this, very horrible fruits. 0.99

01:01:47.000 Very, very horrible things they do.

01:01:50.000 Incredible human degradation.

01:01:51.000 And they rationalize it, saying it's the balance.

01:01:54.000 You know, it's bringing balance to things.

01:01:57.000 But continuing with our guest Chris Pinto and David Bay, the makers of Eye of the Phoenix, again, an incredible film.

01:02:04.000 Continue, Chris Pinto and then David Bay, along these lines, breaking down the film.

01:02:11.000 And let's go back into the film itself and what these people, in their own writings, say they believe.

01:02:18.000 Well, I think a lot of it, what we really tried to show, you know, in the writings, you were talking about the connection with the Theosophical Society, and during this time there were, you had Henry Wallace, who was the Secretary of Agriculture, becomes the Vice President later on, and he was a member of the Theosophical Society, and with him, his spiritual mentor, a guy named Nicholas Rorick, who's been sort of erased from modern history books, but

01:02:48.000 I was a very central figure back in the 1920s and 30s and was very closely associated with FDR's administration.

01:02:56.000 And he was seen to be the successor of Madame Blavatsky, who had founded the Theosophical Society in the late 19th century.

01:03:05.000 And his wife, in fact, Helena Rorick, had translated Blavatsky's book, The Secret Doctrine, into Russian.

01:03:14.000 So they were very, very closely affiliated with the society and they ended up forming their own new age group called the Agni Yoga Society and so on.

01:03:23.000 But Rorik was this celebrated international figure.

01:03:27.000 He was a painter.

01:03:29.000 He was a philosopher and so on.

01:03:30.000 He was very deeply involved in the occult.

01:03:34.000 And as a result, Henry Wallace, who was his pupil, his disciple, became deeply involved in the occult as well.

01:03:43.000 And Rorick spent years of his life traveling through eastern countries, through Tibet and so on, looking for Shambhala, this legendary, you know, paradise-like kingdom, but also looking for signs of the coming of the Christ, you know, the fifth Buddha, the Maitreya.

01:04:03.000 And this was a central doctrine in the whole theosophical belief system, but you had major figures, you had guys like Mahatma Gandhi, And Nehru, the first Prime Minister of India, that were both involved in Theosophy.

01:04:16.000 Thomas Edison, the great inventor who was a member of the House of Theosophy, and so on.

01:04:22.000 So there were a lot of intellectuals, and the group itself was very political.

01:04:28.000 It formed the underbelly of the League of Nations, of which Roerich is credited for having been an inspiration of.

01:04:38.000 And subsequently, when that was dissolved and the UN came together, Rorik has credited his whole philosophies and so on about world peace and world brotherhood.

01:04:49.000 He was, through his artwork and his writings, amalgamating all the different cultures of the world in his paintings and so on.

01:04:58.000 So he's combining Jesus and Buddha and Krishna and Mohammed and so on. 0.70

01:05:03.000 And relying upon these universal archetypes as being, you know, different parts of one and the same thing.

01:05:10.000 Now, this is just their front, though.

01:05:12.000 I mean, specifically studying them, and you go into that in the film, there's this very dark side, and you find that dark side at the top of the pyramid.

01:05:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:05:22.000 Oh, yeah.

01:05:23.000 Yeah, I think the dark side comes in.

01:05:26.000 Well, for me, anyway, the dark side comes in with this artifact.

01:05:30.000 That Rorik claimed to have, this stone that was delivered to him, and that we revealed through the course of the film, was a stone that was said to have fallen from the crown of Lucifer, the Archangel.

01:05:44.000 And we talk about how the underbelly of Theosophy is really the worship of Lucifer, Satan, declaring that Lucifer is the true God, and Madame Blavatsky and her writings had talked about the belief of the Theosophists, which was ancient Gnosticism, which goes back to the Garden of Eden, and she uses this phrase, Demon es Deus inversus, meaning the devil is God inverted.

01:06:13.000 And they switch the roles of God and the serpent in the Garden of Eden, and they declare that God, who created Adam and Eve, was really a devil, because he forbade man to partake of the Tree of Knowledge.

01:06:27.000 And the serpent was really an angel of light, Lucifer, who came to redeem mankind by getting him to partake of the Tree of Knowledge.

01:06:36.000 Okay, so they say they're so loving and good.

01:06:39.000 Why do they love slaughtering and killing whole populations?

01:06:42.000 Why? 0.97

01:06:42.000 I mean, I guess the Mother Earth needs that. 0.97

01:06:45.000 Well, because they're Luciferians. 0.62

01:06:48.000 We show that both seals are Luciferian and Egyptian in origin.

01:06:55.000 And, Kerry, and then when we have a couple of experts that break down the symbolism on both sides, and we just proved that the symbolism of the dollar bill is Luciferian to its very core.

01:07:15.000 What was really interesting to me is not that Nicholas Rorick, who is a channeler and a Chandler and his wife was too.

01:07:28.000 It wasn't so surprised that he believed that this stone contained Lucifer's power and that he who held it would have that power and that power could move the world into the new world order.

01:07:44.000 But what was interesting to me is that Henry Wallace, who is Secretary of Agriculture and Vice President under FDR, believed the same thing.

01:07:53.000 And then meanwhile, meanwhile, David Bay, you have Hitler, part of the Theosophic Society, running around trying to find different artifacts. 0.82

01:08:03.000 And one of you's got a phone short, whoever's moving that.

01:08:06.000 I just may have to switch phones.

01:08:10.000 That he had to run around and get all these amulets and talismans and the shroud of Turin and the spear that pierced Christ's side and the Holy Grail and Tibet and Nazis digging things up in Tunis and running around.

01:08:24.000 Whether people believe that this stuff's real or not, the lunatics running things, I've been to Bohemian Grove, I snuck in there, I mean, skull and bones, they really do believe in this.

01:08:35.000 Please continue.

01:08:38.000 The thing we try to bring out in this video is that FDR was extremely much like Hitler in the fact that he believed in these same things and he was sending Nicholas Rorick all throughout You know, the Far East to discover many of the same things that Hitler was. 0.61

01:09:06.000 And so did Stalin, and so did Lenin, and so did the British Royalty.

01:09:11.000 And Tony Blair, today, Skull and Bones, all of these groups are completely and totally obsessed with this.

01:09:11.000 Right, exactly.

01:09:20.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:09:22.000 But, you know, people do not realize the deep, occult religion For the lack of a better term, of the FDR administration.

01:09:32.000 From FDR down to Henry Wallace and... Well, look at Lincoln at seances and channeling.

01:09:38.000 He did.

01:09:40.000 His wife is especially deep into that, yeah.

01:09:42.000 Look at Ronald Reagan!

01:09:45.000 Hillary! 0.81

01:09:46.000 She bragged that she had seances with Eleanor Roosevelt.

01:09:55.000 The Roerichs were so deep into this, though.

01:09:57.000 I think it's interesting.

01:09:59.000 They were so deep into this that they were claiming in their diaries that they were having objects materialize from the spirit realm.

01:10:07.000 They were having coins and other things from the spirit realm come into their séances.

01:10:13.000 And very serious.

01:10:14.000 I mean, these are people who are international figures that are impacting world government, and they're claiming that these spirits are sending things from the other side to them.

01:10:26.000 So these were not light-hearted accounts that were given.

01:10:30.000 These people were deeply involved in the worship of Lucifer.

01:10:34.000 And they're in control of the nuclear weapons, the bio-weapons.

01:10:38.000 They're getting everybody's DNA, admittedly, to create race-specific bio-weapons. 0.71

01:10:42.000 They're in control today, and they are going to kill a lot of people, folks. 0.99

01:10:46.000 Yep. 1.00

01:10:48.000 Continue.

01:10:51.000 So that I felt was a very important thing to prove, because a lot of people, I've seen some Christian ministries even try to defend FDR as possibly being a Christian, because he'll make, you know, he made certain speeches at Christmas or this kind of thing, talking about the birth of Christ and whatnot, and not realizing that as a Mason, and as somebody deeply involved in all this stuff, he would have a completely different view of who Christ was and what he represented and so on.

01:11:23.000 And also the strong Masonic connection with his entire administration, with him, with Wallace, with the Secretary of Treasury, with a guy named Louis Horch who was financing Nicholas Rorick and built this huge building for him.

01:11:44.000 Government positions there with FDR and he was a 33rd degree mason.

01:11:49.000 All of these guys were deeply involved in the society.

01:11:52.000 Chris Pento, David Bay, gotta break.

01:11:53.000 Let's come back and go through more of this and get the film.

01:11:56.000 There's too much to cover here on air.

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01:16:24.000 Everybody won't be treated all the same.

01:16:29.000 There'll be a golden ladder reaching down when the man comes around.

01:16:38.000 One of the biggest issues I've noticed is that the occultists, the Rosicrucians, all these groups, basic same religion, run the atheistic agnostic groups, the humanist groups, and also have infiltrated all the seminaries, they brag about it in their books as you men know.

01:16:59.000 And they're obsessed with discrediting true Christianity, but then, you know, they're a bunch of occultics. 0.93

01:17:06.000 Why do they accept all the other religions except for that? 0.99

01:17:08.000 I mean, that's a whole other question.

01:17:10.000 I want to run through some of the other characters in the film, but I also want to spend time on how they, from your research, how they plan on destroying the United States and then rebuilding it to bring in their New World Order.

01:17:19.000 But please continue with our guests, David Bay and Chris Pinto.

01:17:23.000 Okay.

01:17:28.000 Okay.

01:17:28.000 I think one of the guys is listening to the radio over the internet delay.

01:17:32.000 That's probably David Bay.

01:17:33.000 Let's go back to Chris Pinto.

01:17:35.000 Yeah, I'm here.

01:17:35.000 Chris, you there?

01:17:38.000 Go ahead.

01:17:40.000 Okay.

01:17:42.000 Yeah, again, Eye of the Phoenix is Part 3.

01:17:46.000 Part 1, we wanted to talk about the foundation of America, going back to England.

01:17:54.000 The birth of the New Atlantis and viewing it that way.

01:17:57.000 What was interesting to me was discovering that the very first history of the Great Seal that was written was written by a guy named Charles A.L.

01:18:05.000 Totten in the 19th century.

01:18:08.000 And he was an American Army officer.

01:18:10.000 And he had, when he's writing about the Great Seal, he's writing about the mysteries that are associated with the founding of our Republic.

01:18:17.000 And there's a lot of them.

01:18:18.000 There's a lot of really You know, interesting mythical fairy tales that are told about angels visiting George Washington and mysterious figures coming from out of nowhere and doing certain things to, you know, inspire the signers of the Declaration of Independence.

01:18:35.000 Providence!

01:18:37.000 Providence, exactly.

01:18:39.000 Or so they would call it, but not necessarily all of them.

01:18:42.000 But Totten in his History of the Great Seal writes about it, and he talks about the birth of America, and he says specifically, That he believed it was the fulfillment of what Sir Francis Bacon had called the New Atlantis.

01:18:56.000 So he ties it all together in his history.

01:18:59.000 And one of the things that we talk about in the film is one of the mysterious origins, or said to be origins, of the Great Seal.

01:19:08.000 Some people have argued that you can't really know where the Great Seal came from because so many fingers were involved in it, in designing it.

01:19:16.000 And so they put forth this notion that it came from the spirit realm, that it materialized.

01:19:21.000 And there's actually a history that's documented in a book, Founding Fathers Secret Societies, by Dr. Robert Hieronymus.

01:19:30.000 Now, the account might not mean anything, except for the fact that Hieronymus is the leading expert in America, and probably the world, on the history of the Great Seal.

01:19:40.000 He's the guy whose research is used by the State Department, by the White House, It was given to Anwar Sadat years ago before he was assassinated when Sadat was inquiring about the Great Seal because he saw the pyramid and he thought there was some connection between Egypt and America as a result.

01:20:00.000 Anyway, so Dr. Hieronymus records this history where Thomas Jefferson with John Adams and Ben Franklin were supposedly trying to come up with a design for the Great Seal and in their frustration

01:20:14.000 Jefferson goes outside and some mysterious figure in a dark cloak comes out of nowhere and has this something in a satchel and he hands it to Jefferson and he says, I know you've been struggling to come up with a design, here it is.

01:20:35.000 And Jefferson supposedly opens this pack up and there's the design for the great seal of the united states and he goes rushing and tells everybody about it and when he comes back this mysterious figures gone And it's a really bizarre account, but it's a recorded account.

01:20:54.000 And there are people who, to this day, claim to believe that that's where the Great Seal originates.

01:20:59.000 And of course, it doesn't just end there.

01:21:01.000 And I would say, somebody's got a phone off the hook in an office.

01:21:04.000 We keep hearing a woman talk. 1.00

01:21:06.000 I'm just going to put that on record here, because I'll be able to hear what you guys have to say.

01:21:09.000 I'm not sure which phone's doing that, so I need to check it.

01:21:12.000 Um, that there's a cultic symbolism all over D.C., all over the world, and all over the other money as well.

01:21:19.000 It's just everywhere.

01:21:20.000 They're upset.

01:21:21.000 I mean, the National Press Club symbolism is the staff of the wizard, the little owl, the eternal flame of Bohemian Grove.

01:21:30.000 It just goes on and on.

01:21:30.000 So let's talk about that, gentlemen, when we come back and take some phone calls and what their great plan is from your deep research on this subject.

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01:25:16.000 I have a phoenix secrets of the dollar bill.

01:25:18.000 Your phone call's coming up in a few minutes.

01:25:20.000 I've got to have our guest back on for a more in-depth interview because there's just so much to learn here.

01:25:25.000 Again, I came upon researching the New World Order just from a secular position, looking at what the elites believe and are pushing, and...

01:25:33.000 These are horrible creatures. 1.00

01:25:35.000 And they have a lot of well-meaning idiot camp followers that buy into the whole New Age thing. 1.00

01:25:39.000 There's nothing new about it. 0.99

01:25:41.000 Let's hit some of the other key areas of the Eye of the Phoenix.

01:25:45.000 And perhaps I should go back to David Bay for his take on some of the things that Chris Pinto was just saying.

01:25:51.000 But then also, I want to go back to Chris Pinto because the way these films are made, I mean, this is shot with actors, it's lit great.

01:25:57.000 I don't know how you guys do it for the budget you have.

01:25:59.000 It's just an amazing feat.

01:26:01.000 And to do it three times.

01:26:06.000 The credit for that all goes to Chris.

01:26:08.000 He's an accomplished filmmaker, and once he became a Christian, he realized he couldn't work for Hollywood, so now he's using his skills for us.

01:26:19.000 So that credit all goes to him.

01:26:25.000 But one of the major points comes at the end of the film, where we disclose that there is a direct link

01:26:33.000 Between the symbolism of the all-seeing eye of Lucifer hovering over the unfinished pyramid, which is the developing New World Order, and the Masonic plan to rebuild the Solomon's Temple for their Christ, and when the Christ arises, he will symbolically replace the eye atop the pyramid, thus completing the pyramid.

01:26:57.000 So back in 1782, when this design was created, The Masons at the time, and the Masons today, plan to rebuild that third temple for their Christ, and that symbolism is on the dollar bill.

01:27:14.000 And they have the Israeli Supreme Court building with the big all-seeing eyes, and they've infiltrated Christianity and changed things to a pre-tribulation rapture, and so the Christian church is ready to accept the first Christ as the Christ. 0.96

01:27:28.000 Exactly right.

01:27:29.000 That's exactly right.

01:27:30.000 And that's a warning that we issue in Riddles and Stones, or the end of that documentary.

01:27:37.000 But the point is that this plan to globalize the world and then stage their cries, this plan has been in existence since at least their founding fathers, and we show in In the New Atlantis, the first video, the plan goes all the way back to Sir Francis Bacon in Queen Elizabeth in England in the 1580s and 1590s.

01:28:06.000 So this is a long-running plan.

01:28:11.000 It's just amazing to see it unfolding now.

01:28:14.000 The Luciferians, Mr. Pinto, they believe that they are now in the final phase, correct?

01:28:22.000 I think they do.

01:28:22.000 I mean, you've had these guys coming out for years, stating that their world teacher, their Maitreya, their global messiah, is getting ready to merge at any moment.

01:28:33.000 I mean, back in FDR's era, they believed that was the case.

01:28:37.000 This guy, Krishnamurti, who I think you mentioned earlier, was the guy that the House of Theosophy believed was going to be the Christ figure, and then he came out and said, no, it's not me.

01:28:49.000 Then you had Benjamin Creme, Who for more than 20 years, almost 30 years now, has been going forth announcing that the Maitreya would appear at any moment.

01:28:59.000 And this Maitreya is the same, you know, 5th Buddha Christ figure that they were anticipating during FDR's administration.

01:29:08.000 And Lucius Trust, now Lucius Trust, has a little prayer area at the UN in New York.

01:29:12.000 I mean, this is their religion.

01:29:15.000 Yeah, the meditation room.

01:29:16.000 If anybody goes to the UN, I've been to the meditation room in the United Nations building.

01:29:21.000 I mean, it is a very occult room that they put together, and if you go on their website and read about it, it's just, it's very plain that it was designed based on occult principles in no uncertain way.

01:29:21.000 It is.

01:29:37.000 But yeah, they've been anticipating this figure.

01:29:39.000 In fact, Benjamin Krem, back in November, Cher International, his group, sent out some email and some news announcement

01:29:48.000 Now that it was actually after the election, once Obama won the election, within a month they sent some press release announcing that Matreo was going to emerge, that he was going to be interviewed by some world-famous journalist or something, and that all of these miraculous and wondrous things were going to be happening in the coming years, supposedly this year.

01:30:11.000 But Krem has been saying this kind of thing for many years, so who knows what's going to happen.

01:30:17.000 But yes, they think the time is nigh.

01:30:20.000 They believe they are right on the edge of this whole New World Order coming about and their world teacher coming forward. 0.99

01:30:30.000 Bunch of lunatics.

01:30:32.000 I want to go to some phone calls, but I want to tell listeners who haven't gotten the first two in the series, we have all three at InfoWars.com right now. 0.90

01:30:40.000 Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings Volume 1, Riddles in Stone, Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings 2, and now the third, Eye of the Phoenix, Secrets of the Dollar Bill.

01:30:50.000 If memory serves me right, you guys wanted to make one film early on, but you understood it was such a saga, such a history, There were originally going to be four.

01:30:58.000 three films and you know it's just jam-packed with info you never cover the same info twice how many total in the series are there going to be there were originally going to be four uh if we can find the funding for it we would you know the the the material has blossomed into so uh you will just have to wait and see how things progress

01:31:22.000 but there is so much material that we need to talk about relating to the secret mysteries of america's beginnings that it could take seven volumes to tell the whole story that's interesting It's real education, because I've done a lot of research, and I even learned a lot of new stuff I didn't know, watching this film, and it's also all very well documented.

01:31:41.000 I want to take a few calls here, but any other key points you guys want to make about the film?

01:31:46.000 Did you notice the bohemian owl that we talked about all over that dollar bill?

01:31:51.000 Yes.

01:31:52.000 Tell us about that little fellow.

01:31:54.000 Well, hidden in a couple different places on the dollar bill, there is an owl that is identical to the bohemian grove owl.

01:32:04.000 And we have a short segment in there about the bohemian grove, which ties in exactly with your DVD on that subject.

01:32:13.000 I found it very interesting that That the documentary, that the fact the documentary took that turn.

01:32:21.000 Yeah, well, you know, people say to me, oh, the owl isn't Moloch.

01:32:24.000 I understand that that was symbolized in Tyre as a bull, and other areas as a ram, other animals.

01:32:31.000 But the cultists always give two, three, four, five, ten meanings.

01:32:35.000 They address it as the owl of Bohemia, and then on their own literature, they address it as Moloch.

01:32:42.000 When I was there at the ritual, infiltrating it in July of 2000, They addressed it.

01:32:48.000 First they said the spirits of all our dead GROW members are here.

01:32:51.000 Then they addressed it as a female.

01:32:52.000 Then they addressed it as a male.

01:32:54.000 I mean, this goes into their religion.

01:32:57.000 And a lot of the occultists out there like to, you know, pick at us. 0.98

01:33:00.000 You know, like, we're not allowed to talk about this and all their mumbo-jumbo garbage. 0.80

01:33:04.000 But any comments on that?

01:33:08.000 Well, the... Go ahead, Chris.

01:33:11.000 I was just going to make the comment, Alex, just to follow up on the whole owl bohemian growth thing.

01:33:16.000 One of the things that we show in the film is the presence of the owl throughout Washington, D.C.

01:33:23.000 If you go in the government buildings, if you go in the Library of Congress, in the U.S.

01:33:27.000 Capitol and so on, you will find little owls carved into, you know, the most remote places inside D.C.

01:33:37.000 I mean, they're all over the place.

01:33:38.000 I believe those are spiritual guardians.

01:33:41.000 Yeah, practicing occultism believed that a particularly powerful kind of familiar spirit takes the form of an owl.

01:33:53.000 And the owl was Sir Francis Bacon's favorite familiar spirit.

01:33:57.000 And so it's been popular all down through the centuries since.

01:34:02.000 Yeah, I had pretty high-level masons, you know, here in Texas, in my family lineage.

01:34:08.000 And, you know, in these old farmhouses and places, there's little, you know, bronze and cast iron little owls.

01:34:14.000 Great.

01:34:15.000 Yeah, that's a familiar spirit that comes and guides them, and gives them encouragement, and gives them guidance for their life, and that kind of thing.

01:34:26.000 And, of course, the Bible says that we are to not have any contact with familiar spirits.

01:34:32.000 So, but it's a representative of this Luciferian religion that all of the Masons and Rosicrucians and other members of secret societies follow.

01:34:46.000 If people really got a hold in their mind that our government leaders are, you know, these Masons and these Rosicrucians are practicing a cultist and are following a cult plan that follows Bible prophecy, That would revolutionize the opposition to the New World Order. 0.99

01:35:05.000 And that's what the Bible says.

01:35:06.000 It says they have their counterfeit, and the occultists go, no, this is the Christ.

01:35:11.000 You know, look, we wrote your Bible.

01:35:12.000 I mean, it's just such deception.

01:35:14.000 It's just amazing.

01:35:16.000 Yes, it is.

01:35:17.000 It's amazing.

01:35:18.000 But the exciting part of it for us is that this all comes down, and they are aiming for the very thing the Bible says will happen, and that is a A Christ figure that will claim to be Jesus Christ and all the world's religions, and will take control of a global government, a global economy, and a global religion.

01:35:40.000 Well, look at how the last two popes are calling for a one-rule government, and I have video of them joining hands with all the other religions.

01:35:47.000 I mean, they're all pushing for this.

01:35:51.000 Yeah.

01:35:52.000 The Illuminati back in 1991 made a decision that the Roman Catholic Pope, whomever he was at the time, would become the top religious leader of the New World Order religion.

01:36:06.000 And so the Pope is right in the thick of things.

01:36:10.000 Yeah.

01:36:11.000 All right.

01:36:12.000 Well, we have all three of the films available at InfoWars.com.

01:36:15.000 I hope you'll call and get it as well if you're not online.

01:36:19.000 888-253-3139, 888-253-3139, Eye of the Phoenix.

01:36:26.000 Let's go ahead and take some calls.

01:36:27.000 Ron in Arizona, you're on the air with the two co-directors of Eye of the Phoenix.

01:36:33.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

01:36:36.000 If we're living in the last days and a new world order will be established, as the Bible says, should we resist it no matter what?

01:36:47.000 Because the Bible says we should do that.

01:36:50.000 Proverbs 24, 25 says that those who rebuke the wicked will be blessed.

01:36:56.000 Those who keep the law strive against the wicked, Proverbs 28, 4.

01:37:01.000 And if the righteous gives way before the wicked, They are like a muddy spring or a polluted well, Proverbs 25, 26.

01:37:09.000 And then Ephesians 5, 11 says that instead of participating in the deeds of the wicked, we're supposed to expose them.

01:37:20.000 And then Paul said in verse 14, Awake, sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.

01:37:26.000 Any comments on that, Alex and Mr. Pennell, Mr. Bay?

01:37:30.000 I think we should resist.

01:37:35.000 I agree.

01:37:35.000 Right now we can resist legally and write letters and call our congressmen and do all the talk as a million man voice.

01:37:49.000 I think we should.

01:37:52.000 But as a Christian ministry, we strive to use our events of the coming New World Order to get people to come to Christ.

01:38:03.000 But if they are saved, they're going to be fighting evil.

01:38:06.000 Yeah, we have to fight evil, no matter what.

01:38:09.000 I mean, it is grace that comes first, but the evidence of that is that you're going to fight evil.

01:38:15.000 Because we're commanded to throughout the Bible.

01:38:17.000 These are just a handful.

01:38:19.000 Yeah, but if you're really fighting evil, I mean, if you're really right with God, you're not going to be able to control yourself if you're going to want to help people and fight evil and stand up against corruption.

01:38:27.000 And you're not going to be a coward.

01:38:29.000 And I'm telling you, I go in these churches and I feel an evil, I mean, it's evil.

01:38:34.000 Most of these big churches, it is evil.

01:38:36.000 I go in there and I feel evil.

01:38:39.000 Because it is evil.

01:38:41.000 I appreciate your call.

01:38:42.000 You guys want to comment on that, Mr. Pinto or anybody?

01:38:45.000 Yeah, I just wanted to say one of my favorite scriptures has to do with John the Baptist and how and why John the Baptist was arrested.

01:38:53.000 He was arrested not just for speaking out against King Herod's adultery, but the scripture says he lifted up a shout against all the evil that Herod had done.

01:39:02.000 He had been speaking against all the evil that Herod was guilty of.

01:39:07.000 And I think that's part of what we're doing in these films, and it's part of what we believe is the right thing to do.

01:39:12.000 God's prophets and wise men and followers have always spoken out against evil in the land whenever a king or a queen or whoever was given over to it.

01:39:21.000 Yeah, well like Ezekiel said and others, they were threatened to kill him and he said, I can't help it, my bones are burning, I've got to do this.

01:39:28.000 And people don't have a compulsion, a drive, an overwhelming need to fight evil and defend all these innocents that are being slaughtered and enslaved and the captives, then you are in league with the force of this world.

01:39:40.000 Period!

01:39:42.000 And Jesus said that to whom much is given, much will be required.

01:39:46.000 So for those of us who know the truth and know the truth behind the truth, it's incumbent upon us to resist.

01:39:52.000 Absolutely.

01:39:53.000 Let's talk to Wilson in New York.

01:39:55.000 Wilson, you're on the air with our guest.

01:39:57.000 Yes.

01:39:57.000 Good evening, gentlemen.

01:39:59.000 I just want to thank you guys for being able to bring together all the information and make it so understandable.

01:40:06.000 And I also want to thank you, Alex Jones, for taking me out of my Dream state of just smoking every day and you turn me into someone who just is in a drive for information and trying to understand things.

01:40:19.000 And things like the eye of the phoenix do help me understand things easier.

01:40:24.000 So I just have one question.

01:40:25.000 The movie, I'm actually reading the book though, Angels and Demons talks about a lot of information.

01:40:32.000 I was curious if any of that information could be true.

01:40:37.000 You're talking about the book they're turning into the film about the Illuminati and all that?

01:40:45.000 Yeah, with Tom Hanks, by Dan Brown.

01:40:47.000 Yeah, that's really all twisted, because it says there's the Illuminati, but it's fighting Christianity and the Catholic Church, when really all those major institutions are working together.

01:40:56.000 Gentlemen, do you have comments on that?

01:40:59.000 I haven't really studied that book.

01:41:02.000 I couldn't comment.

01:41:04.000 Well, I mean, you find out in the first one that, you know, it really is the Holy Grail, and the Holy Grail's the goddess.

01:41:08.000 It's just very occultic.

01:41:11.000 ...about the New World Order and Bilderberg, so none of that.

01:41:15.000 I should take seriously... Well, you know, the Illuminati love to jump in and muddy the waters and, you know, take control of dissident groups or write a book that is partly true and partly false.

01:41:28.000 They love to do things like this, maybe that kind of a thing.

01:41:32.000 Okay, sir, I've only read a synopsis of the book and the film.

01:41:35.000 I read the first one.

01:41:36.000 I listened to it on a book on tape because I wanted to understand it.

01:41:40.000 Let me guess, they say the Catholic Church is fighting the Illuminati in the book?

01:41:47.000 Did they explain that Adam Weissamt came out of a Jesuit college in Ingolstadt?

01:41:55.000 That he began as a Jesuit and he used the methodology of the Jesuit order to found the Illuminati.

01:42:05.000 But all I'm asking is, exactly, specifically, does the book from the synopsis I read, and maybe I should read it, I'm so busy, it says here's the Illuminati, here's the Catholic Church, the two are fighting, is that the message?

01:42:17.000 They say that the Catholic Church doesn't like the Illuminati because they were coming from a different standpoint and they had people like Galileo Another scientist, like that.

01:42:27.000 So that's basically why they say they're against each other.

01:42:29.000 And why the Illuminati... Exactly!

01:42:31.000 The Catholic Church is backwards and bad, and wanted to go after Galileo, so in a way the Illuminati's the good guys? 0.94

01:42:43.000 I mean, I haven't read the book yet, sir, so I appreciate your call, Wilson.

01:42:47.000 I can't really comment.

01:42:48.000 I've only read the synopsis, but I'll find out more.

01:42:50.000 It's about to come out.

01:42:51.000 I just don't like watching movies like that, but I'll try to track it.

01:42:54.000 We're going to come back, take one final call from Jeff in Canada for our guest.

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01:47:34.000 We're almost out of time.

01:47:35.000 Let's take a call from Jeff in Canada for our guest, the makers of the Eye of the Phoenix.

01:47:42.000 Hi Alex, it's Jeff.

01:47:44.000 I have been a long-time supporter of yours and I think you're having an excellent discussion today.

01:47:50.000 I know time is short, so I'll get right to it.

01:47:52.000 Your guests mentioned that the American dollar is meant to perish like the phoenix and then rise up again in a new form, and I just wanted to put this out there as an insight.

01:48:02.000 Perhaps they're thinking that that one world currency will actually be in the form of carbon credits.

01:48:09.000 Oh yeah.

01:48:09.000 Because you've mentioned we're moving to a cashless society, and how better to regulate people than link everything to carbon credits.

01:48:17.000 And that goes into the Gaia worship.

01:48:19.000 Let's get a comment from our guest on that fine point.

01:48:24.000 It's possible.

01:48:25.000 I mean, it's clearly possible, and I think Obama is going to be the man that is going to shepherd America through that whole process.

01:48:36.000 Well, that's what Kissinger said.

01:48:37.000 He's going to bring in the new world order.

01:48:39.000 Mr. Pinto?

01:48:41.000 You know, I haven't studied the carbon credit thing enough to really comment on that specifically.

01:48:45.000 I'm still wondering if they're going to You know, if they're going to somehow or other initiate the North American Union and then bring in the Amaro or something similar.

01:48:54.000 Yeah, they're going to go in three blocks first.

01:48:56.000 Great point.

01:48:57.000 Thank you, Jeff.

01:48:57.000 TJ and Novato, we just hung up.

01:48:59.000 I'm not going to go to anybody else then.

01:49:00.000 Anything else, Jeff?

01:49:03.000 Okay, thank you.

01:49:04.000 Gentlemen, I want to thank you both for coming on the show.

01:49:07.000 Each of you, a closing one-minute comment or 30-second comment.

01:49:09.000 Go ahead, David.

01:49:12.000 Well, this Eye of the Phoenix documentary tells the story That the Masonic and Rosicrucian secret societies and their modern day descendants like Skull and Bones have originally, from the time before America was founded, planned to use America as the

01:49:36.000 As the powerful, prosperous nation to lead the world, the rest of the world, into this global government economy and religion, and then stage their Masonic Messiah, and all that symbolism is found on the dollar bill, and as we say in the show in Riddles and Stones, the same story is in the street layouts and the paintings and the sculptures of Washington, D.C.

01:49:57.000 Absolutely.

01:49:57.000 Closing comments quickly, Mr. Pinto.

01:50:00.000 Well, I think the fascinating part of this whole thing for me was how the Great Pyramid symbolizes Solomon's rebuilt temple in the city of Jerusalem and part of what we show at the end of the film is how you've got Orthodox Jews and Freemasons Working to rebuild the temple there in Jerusalem in fulfillment of the appearance of their Christ figure.

01:50:22.000 That's right, Chris.

01:50:23.000 All the symbolism.

01:50:24.000 Chris Pinto, David May, we'll talk to you very soon from Cutting Edge Ministries.

01:50:27.000 Thank you so much for coming on.

01:50:28.000 Thanks, Alex.

01:50:30.000 You bet.

01:50:30.000 All three films are available right now at InfoWars.com.

01:50:33.000 Retransmission starts now with a bunch of key info with the gun confiscation bills now moving.

01:50:38.000 Eric Holder openly announcing in ABC News.

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