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00:01:03.000 It is the second day of March 2009.

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00:01:40.000 But for the next 30 minutes or so, maybe longer, we are joined by Professor George Grayson.

00:01:49.000 And before we went to break, I went over his bio, written more than 20 books and other publications on international affairs, made 125 research trips to Latin America, publishes a weekly special report on what's happening in Mexico alone.

00:02:05.000 And we really appreciate Professor George W. Grayson, a member of the Government Department faculty for 38 years, joining us, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

00:02:17.000 Professor, it's good to have you on with us.

00:02:20.000 Very nice to be with you.

00:02:22.000 Let's go ahead and start.

00:02:23.000 This is a short segment, but go ahead and break down from your great expertise, one of the most informed people out there, and what's really happening in Mexico.

00:02:31.000 Are they in civil war, going towards civil war?

00:02:34.000 Is it collapsing?

00:02:35.000 Will it collapse?

00:02:38.000 Mexico is not a failed state.

00:02:41.000 That is, people go to work every morning, the subways run, the taxis pick up fares, and so forth.

00:02:48.000 What is happening is that There are enclaves of violence where you have dual sovereignty.

00:02:57.000 That is, on the one hand, the elected officials have a piece of the action, but they're often outmaneuvered and outgunned by the cartels.

00:03:10.000 And you see this in cities like Juarez, which is just across the border from El Paso.

00:03:16.000 You see it in Tijuana, just across the border from San Diego, and in areas and states like Guerrero and Michoacan, where the government simply has lost control over its own territory.

00:03:34.000 And I see a lot of reports that all, especially on the border, but all over Mexico, that there's sub-taxing systems where the gangs and criminals demand taxes from businesses and teachers and even government people.

00:03:51.000 That's right.

00:03:53.000 And they don't just send you a notice if your tax is overdue.

00:03:57.000 They shoot you.

00:03:59.000 And they're not confining this to public entities, although some mayors are having to pay taxes to make certain that the citizens in their municipalities are not victimized.

00:04:14.000 But surgeons are a target.

00:04:17.000 Veterinarians Teachers, even street vendors, have to pay their Dane Geld, their dues, to the cartels or risk being executed.

00:04:30.000 And as you've read, the executions are occurring in an increasingly ghastly fashion, with castrations and decapitations and shoving people in vats of lye.

00:04:45.000 Wow, we're going to break in just a moment and I've already written quite a list of notes here.

00:04:49.000 They have the separate taxes, it's totally lawless, the massive kidnapping and torture in what I would call real terrorism.

00:04:59.000 Again, he's with the College of William & Mary.

00:05:02.000 We're going to come right back to him after this quick three-minute break.

00:05:05.000 University and also Marshall White School of Law.

00:05:10.000 Professor Grayson focuses on Latin American politics with a particular interest in Mexico.

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00:08:27.000 Professor George W. Grayson is our guest.

00:08:33.000 .

00:08:34.000 Let me throw this question out at you.

00:08:37.000 Homeland Security has said in Texas, both state and federal, I've had a state senator and a state rep on, and last week on the subject, quietly they say the National Guard is on one of its highest alerts, preparing to even have to shut down the border if they have to, that they believe there is a chance, they won't say on air, they say that's classified, but they say they know the percentage.

00:09:00.000 They claim.

00:09:01.000 But they say a good chance Mexico may completely collapse.

00:09:06.000 From deeply studying this, Professor, do you think that's accurate?

00:09:11.000 No, Mexico's not gonna collapse.

00:09:14.000 And a major reason is that the Mexican military is by far the strongest force in the country.

00:09:22.000 And it's completely loyal to President Felipe Calderon.

00:09:27.000 But you are gonna see areas Where people flee the country, and Ciudad Juarez is a case in point, as is Nogales, Tijuana.

00:09:42.000 Most of the border cities, the twin cities, are under a great deal of pressure.

00:09:48.000 Now Alex, we can look on the bright side, because the Mexican economy is suffering even worse than ours. 0.90

00:09:56.000 But there's one industry that's thriving along the border, And that's the funeral industry.

00:10:02.000 And the current crop of morticians can't take care of all the bodies, and so funeral directors from other parts of the country are opening up branches.

00:10:15.000 And in order to get a piece of the market, they have specials going.

00:10:20.000 For example, if your loved one is decapitated and you've got the body, but you can't find the head, these newcomers will put the body on ice until you can find the head and not charge you extra and will do a great cosmetic job of making your loved one look as if he were still with you.

00:10:43.000 So there is good news, Alex.

00:10:45.000 Wow, boy, then don't tell me the bad news.

00:10:49.000 I see different numbers in the press.

00:10:53.000 Kind of like the press says there's 14 million illegal aliens.

00:10:57.000 Next, they say there's 30 million in the U.S.

00:10:59.000 I see numbers of 6,000, 8,000, 10,000 Mexicans that died last year in violence, and thousands already this year.

00:11:07.000 What's, from your research, what's the closest number to how many people really died last year?

00:11:13.000 Well, we have pretty good numbers on that, and while we're talking I'll pull up the exact number, but it's just over 6,000.

00:11:22.000 And I think both the newspapers that are credible and also the authorities agree on that number.

00:11:33.000 It looks like it's going to be larger this year, given the rapid start in executions we've had during the months of January and February.

00:11:46.000 As far as the illegal immigrants go, If anybody's guess, I would say 12, 14,000 is probably a low figure.

00:12:00.000 And we're going to see more pressure on the border, even though they're not jobs in the U.S.

00:12:08.000 What we can appreciate is if you've got the choice of living in a country where there are no jobs, but the rule of law has broken down, Or trying to get into a country where there are no jobs, but we still have the rule of law.

00:12:25.000 You really don't have to be a rocket scientist to make that choice.

00:12:32.000 And therefore there's continuing pressure on people trying to get into the United States.

00:12:40.000 By the way, I've just pulled up a number here which I think is accurate. 5,207.

00:12:48.000 Executions in 2008, 5,207.

00:12:54.000 And so far this year, in the first two months, there's been 1,034.

00:12:59.000 Wow.

00:13:01.000 So a massive increase.

00:13:02.000 What is that like?

00:13:06.000 Well, if we multiply that by six, it's going to certainly be 1,000 or so more this year.

00:13:14.000 But we've got elections in Mexico on on the 5th of July, and I suspect that the political authorities are going to try to dampen down the violence surrounding those around that election period.

00:13:33.000 Okay, I have a million questions for you, sir.

00:13:36.000 Sure, pardon my rambling.

00:13:38.000 Oh, no, you're not rambling.

00:13:39.000 Believe me, this is all so important.

00:13:41.000 And excuse me for interrupting, and I want you to be able to finish the point I just interrupted.

00:13:46.000 You've really studied Mexico when we were searching out academics.

00:13:50.000 I mean, you're one of the top academics from what we've researched, really understanding the culture down there.

00:13:55.000 A, what?

00:13:57.000 Why does this culture allow corruption and the basic fact that Mordido or kickbacks or beak-dipping was allowed by the central government for so long and the fact that corruption was seen as okay, is that how it's now just grown and blossomed and gotten so much worse or are there other factors that are causing things to get much worse?

00:14:23.000 Well, the ubiquitous poverty is a is a factor.

00:14:27.000 The amount of red tape, it takes about 55 days to open even a small convenience store in Mexico City and that's 55 pieces of paper that need at least 55 signatures and you can see the opportunity for abuse there.

00:14:46.000 It goes back to the colonial period when the viceroys would take the decrees from Madrid And they would put them over there, roll them up and put them over their head, and they would say, obadesco pero no cumplo, which means, I obey, but I'm not going to carry out the monarch's dictum because it would embarrass him or her.

00:15:11.000 And so we've had a manipulative attitude toward law since the colonial period, if not before, and that's not going to change any time in our lifetimes.

00:15:23.000 Who was more corrupt, just a point of history, the Spanish government or when they had the Germanic government in there with Maximilian?

00:15:33.000 Well, Maximilian wasn't a bad guy.

00:15:35.000 He was really a reformer, but it was such a blow to Mexican nationalism to have a Habsburg installed on the throne by Napoleon III that he, of course, was executed along with his wife Carlota.

00:15:52.000 But I think he probably ran a pretty tight ship, but the forces were much greater than he.

00:16:01.000 Okay, expanding on the point you were bringing up earlier about the elections coming up and the military attempting to dampen that down, in your words.

00:16:11.000 Well, the military is carrying the ball with regard to the so-called war on drugs, which I think is An unfortunate metaphor because a war suggests that there's something you can win and there's not going to be any victory against the drug cartels.

00:16:11.000 Please continue.

00:16:32.000 You may be able to manage the violence more and manage the drug trade, but it's not going to be extinguished.

00:16:42.000 But the military's role is not just in terms of their professional responsibilities.

00:16:49.000 But many retired generals are now becoming the secretaries of public security or police chiefs in states and in large cities.

00:17:01.000 And so we're seeing a militarization of law enforcement as well as the military playing its traditional role.

00:17:11.000 That doesn't mean there's going to be a coup d'etat or that the military is going to take over, but the military is looked upon in Mexico much like Americans view public schools.

00:17:23.000 And you know as well as I, if we can't solve a problem in society, we turn it over to the public schools, drugs, alcohol, teenage pregnancy, you name it.

00:17:33.000 In Mexico, any problem that can't be solved by the civilians, they toss the ball to the military.

00:17:40.000 Well, that's what I've noticed.

00:17:42.000 I go down to Mexico a few times a year.

00:17:43.000 I won't be going back.

00:17:45.000 And there's just troops everywhere, boarded up shops everywhere, even in the South, even in the supposedly nicer areas down in the Yucatan Peninsula.

00:17:54.000 I've got reports here about killings in Cancun out of the Los Angeles Times.

00:18:00.000 Now the State Department is saying it's dangerous down there.

00:18:02.000 Colleges, as you know.

00:18:03.000 For the audience are telling people watch out if you go down there.

00:18:07.000 How dangerous is it for the average American or Canadian to go down to Mexico right now?

00:18:12.000 Most of the civilians who get caught up in the violence just happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

00:18:21.000 There's no targeting of civilians.

00:18:24.000 There's certainly no targeting of foreigners.

00:18:28.000 So I wouldn't have any, in fact I'm going to Mexico next week.

00:18:32.000 But I have no qualms about going to Mexico City.

00:18:35.000 I love cities like Queretaro or Zacatecas.

00:18:41.000 If you get into the resort areas, you're pretty well cocooned.

00:18:45.000 What about kidnapping, though?

00:18:46.000 That is exploding, isn't it?

00:18:48.000 Yeah, all kinds of kidnapping is exploding.

00:18:53.000 I mean, there's the genuine kidnapping where somebody is grabbed off the street.

00:18:59.000 But also, Alex, you might be at your desk and you get a phone call and someone says, I'm holding your 15-year-old daughter who just left St.

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00:19:28.000 The person may not have your daughter, but you try to reach her on the cell phone, and you can't, she's not at home, and so you're likely to pony up a thousand dollars because the danger is so widespread that you can't take chances.

00:19:48.000 And then the guy shows up and gets the money, but then your daughter shows up and really wasn't kidnapped.

00:19:52.000 That's right.

00:19:57.000 I can't imagine, like, do I pay or do I kill this person?

00:20:00.000 How do I control myself?

00:20:02.000 I just can't imagine being put in that position.

00:20:04.000 Stay there, sir.

00:20:05.000 There's so many other questions I've got for you.

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00:24:25.000 He is a professor at the College of William and Mary, one of the leading experts on what's happening in Latin America and Mexico right now.

00:24:34.000 His new book is on its way to being a bestseller, Mexico's Struggle with Drugs and Thugs.

00:24:40.000 Just Google that and pull it up or you can find it in bookstores everywhere.

00:24:45.000 We appreciate the professor joining us today.

00:24:52.000 Professor, you already said it's getting worse there.

00:24:54.000 They're on track to have even more murders than last year.

00:24:57.000 We're now seeing murders spill over to the U.S.

00:25:00.000 I know in California and Arizona, New Mexico, a lot of city officials, police chiefs, mayors, fire chiefs live on the U.S.

00:25:07.000 side now.

00:25:09.000 Places that were, you know, hopping tourist traps are now dead.

00:25:14.000 If it's getting worse, how much worse will it get?

00:25:17.000 I mean, are you projecting it just gets worse and worse each year, out until some point, or what's happening?

00:25:23.000 Yeah, it's going to continue to deteriorate as long as we are buying 80-85% of the drugs that are produced in or passed through Mexico.

00:25:38.000 And while it's a political third rail for politicians, I think we're going to have to move toward decriminalizing the possession and the sale of small quantities of At least marijuana to begin with.

00:25:56.000 And that'll drive down the price, and it'll, I mean, look what happened.

00:25:59.000 I'm glad you said this, because I had a state senator on as a big Republican, and he was even having to admit that Mexico's having to look at this, because if there weren't fantastic profits, you wouldn't have all of this going on.

00:26:11.000 Sure, and prohibition is just an example of where we try to outlaw something And the result was that the crime spiraled, illegal activity mushroomed, and the consumption of alcohol rose.

00:26:30.000 Troubled, yeah.

00:26:31.000 And so I'm afraid, because there's no good answer.

00:26:39.000 But we have to at least think about the unthinkable, and I hope that more politicians will step forward and at least raise the issue for debate.

00:26:49.000 Well, I bought a little piece of property in the Austin Hill Country, like four acres, and we found on that the laudanum bottles from, you know, 80, 90 years ago.

00:26:59.000 I mean, every drug store had cocaine, opium, everything, you know, any old farmhouse you find out, you know, in the bushes, these bottles, or you dig and you find them.

00:27:08.000 A lot of Americans use it, but I've seen the numbers.

00:27:10.000 It was around a third of the people that are on opiates, you know, then.

00:27:15.000 It was a third of the amount of people that we have now when these opiates are highly controlled.

00:27:21.000 Well, Coca-Cola originally had Coca in it.

00:27:21.000 Yeah.

00:27:26.000 That's right.

00:27:27.000 And it was eventually taken out because of political issues.

00:27:31.000 But yes, it was widespread around the turn of the century.

00:27:35.000 And that was all lumped in with the prohibition movement.

00:27:41.000 Okay, so by getting worse, what is Mexico going to look like in 6 months, 12 months, a year and a half?

00:27:47.000 We're going to see it in terms of more pressure at the border.

00:27:52.000 And I think we need to move ahead and get that fence completed.

00:28:00.000 That's no panacea because probably, Alex, 40% of the illegal immigrants who come into the United States come in legally.

00:28:10.000 As students or as business people or as tourists, simply overstay their visas.

00:28:18.000 And I think if you or I didn't pay our visa card in a month or two, Visa would find us.

00:28:25.000 But the Department of Homeland Security has no records.

00:28:30.000 And so let's hope that Governor Napolitano will try to close that loophole.

00:28:38.000 Because we are an open society, we want to stay that way, but it is intolerable that a third to 40% of legal visitors can overstay their term and become illegal aliens.

00:28:56.000 I'm not politically correct, I don't use the term undocumented immigrant, that to me is like saying that a A bank robber is an unauthorized withdrawal specialist. 0.67

00:29:13.000 You're funny.

00:29:14.000 Oh, I'll tell you, there's so much to talk about.

00:29:17.000 We've got one minute before we break.

00:29:18.000 We're coming back in a long segment with you, final segment.

00:29:21.000 What are some of the... I mean, I've asked my questions, sir.

00:29:23.000 You're the expert on this.

00:29:25.000 What are some of the key points that are coming up in the next segment?

00:29:31.000 The government, our government, cannot patronize the Mexicans. 1.00

00:29:36.000 Mexico is an incredibly wealthy country.

00:29:40.000 Oil, gas, gold, silver, beaches, historical artifacts, and we have got to encourage the Mexicans to mobilize their resources and provide a better life for their people.

00:29:55.000 Let's talk about your ideas from studying the culture and writing a weekly publication on the subject of how they can do that because the corrupt want to keep everything to themselves and so the people really never get a chance to get out of poverty.

00:30:07.000 How do we change the kleptocracy that is Mexico? 1.00

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00:33:38.000 We have Professor George Grayson, author of the new book, Mexico struggle with drugs and thugs.

00:33:45.000 Excellent book, folks, if you want to understand what's happening down in Mexico.

00:33:48.000 We've got to decriminalize drugs now, ladies and gentlemen, because it creates a giant criminal society. 0.80

00:33:55.000 Crime went up several hundred percentage points across the United States during the nine years of prohibition.

00:34:01.000 Alcoholism spiked.

00:34:02.000 Poisoning from alcohol spiked.

00:34:04.000 That's why heroin and cocaine is filled with all these other poisons.

00:34:07.000 All of it.

00:34:08.000 And then there's all this money involved in it so it's seen as stylish and cool and cutting edge and fancy cars and mansions so people get into it.

00:34:17.000 But if we decriminalize The only problem is, the major banks that have been laundering this money forever are going to collapse.

00:34:24.000 Professor, you know, growing up in Texas, I've read all the Texas Monthly and Dallas Morning News articles about women being kidnapped from El Paso and Laredo, other places, being taken over, being killed, being raped, all the women they've dug up dead in the desert, you know, hundreds and hundreds, just in one case in El Paso.

00:34:44.000 What's your intel on that?

00:34:46.000 What's happening there?

00:34:50.000 They're targeting women in Juarez, and of course it's easy to pass from Juarez into El Paso to pick up your victims.

00:35:01.000 The Mexican authorities claim to be pursuing all leads, but they've been monumentally unsuccessful in finding the culprits.

00:35:11.000 And it doesn't appear to be linked to the narco violence, but A separate group of ghoulish killers, but I frankly don't know. 0.93

00:35:25.000 Changing subjects briefly, we were talking about what Mexico can do, and the Barack Obama administration has no silver bullets.

00:35:36.000 I hope they don't exacerbate the situation by trying to let more illegal workers into the United States, or legalizing those who are here.

00:35:48.000 However, to take one example, the teachers in Mexico belong to one of the most venal and corrupt and wealthy unions in the world. 0.96

00:36:01.000 And the way you get your teaching job is by playing nice with the union.

00:36:07.000 And this means that the middle class families, they will literally sell a kidney. 0.85

00:36:15.000 In order to get their kids into private schools. 0.93

00:36:19.000 A country can't progress if it doesn't have first-rate health care and good education, and Mexico has neither.

00:36:28.000 But the Calderon government is really, for political reasons, working with the head of the Teachers Union, La Maestra as she's called, when they should be doing trust-busting, not just of the big corporations in Mexico,

00:36:45.000 But of powerful labor unions that have colonized public education, they've colonized the petroleum sector, they've colonized the electricity industry, and that's something the Mexicans on their own can do. 0.51

00:37:03.000 The second thing is they don't pay taxes in Mexico.

00:37:07.000 Mexico collects, as a percentage of gross domestic product, about 11.8% of its GDP.

00:37:15.000 That's on a par with Haiti, an absolutely failed state.

00:37:20.000 It's a third of what we collect, and we collect too much.

00:37:25.000 But they've got to start raising revenues.

00:37:29.000 Now that's the official taxes, though.

00:37:31.000 People pay all this mordido to police, corrupt officials, the corrupt unions, the thugs.

00:37:36.000 Do you have any idea of what the real number of taxes through payoffs are?

00:37:42.000 Yeah, I think the official taxes are just the tip of the iceberg.

00:37:48.000 Because, for example, if you want a career job, a tenured job in the public oil monopoly, you would pay about $40,000 for a professional position there.

00:38:02.000 And that would ensure you a good income for the rest of your life.

00:38:07.000 And a princely retirement.

00:38:08.000 Well, let me tell you a story.

00:38:09.000 I, uh, about three years ago, took a five-day vacation with my family.

00:38:16.000 I wanted to go, you know, show my wife the pyramids down there.

00:38:19.000 We went down to Costa Maya, went to some of the pyramids, and they would stop the big tour bus with, uh, you know, Humvees and Jeeps with machine guns in the back, heavy machine guns, and the bus driver would get out and go pay them cash just to drive the, you know, 30 miles to the pyramid.

00:38:36.000 And I hadn't seen that previously when I was in high school and college and, you know, going with my parents down there.

00:38:41.000 So, I mean, we talk about corruption.

00:38:44.000 It's right up at the top.

00:38:45.000 We always hear about top government officials being caught on the payroll of different mafias, different cartels.

00:38:51.000 So, I mean, we talk about, you know, the government fighting cartels.

00:38:54.000 Isn't this really the government that controls the major cartels battling it out with non-licensed Cartels have had a lot of former DEA agents and others tell me that a lot of the drug war we see is bigger cartels through the government fighting with those that are actually cowboys.

00:39:11.000 You know, I think that Felipe Calderon, whom I've known for some years, is a decent, respectable, well-intentioned person who is pure as Caesar's wife.

00:39:28.000 But there are certainly some bad actors around him.

00:39:32.000 And we talked about the elections coming up on July 5th.

00:39:37.000 it looks like the old PRI, the party that ran Mexico for 1929 until 2000, is going to return to power, first in taking over the Congress, and then in all first in taking over the Congress, and then in all likelihood winning back the presidency in 2012.

00:39:59.000 12.

00:40:00.000 And the PRI is the party that's most closely tied to the criminal organizations.

00:40:07.000 So is this what you're getting at?

00:40:11.000 The PRI is orchestrating all of this to make it collapse so they get back into power?

00:40:17.000 I don't know whether it's that Machiavellian, but the PRI was in power so long that many of their leaders developed working relations, shall we say, with the drug barons.

00:40:31.000 And I haven't seen any attempt by the PRI to separate themselves from the bad guys.

00:40:39.000 And Alex, I want to say I'm an optimist by nature.

00:40:46.000 When I get an email from an ex-secretary of finance from Nigeria telling me that if I will send him a couple hundred dollars, he will send me $10 million.

00:41:00.000 I always write him a check.

00:41:02.000 I feel like he's just down on his luck.

00:41:05.000 It's hard to be optimistic when you look at Mexico. 1.00

00:41:10.000 So in the long run, what do you see happening in Mexico?

00:41:14.000 That conditions continue to deteriorate.

00:41:19.000 Unemployment grows and there is A massive crush to leave the country.

00:41:28.000 Some will go to Europe, some to Canada, some to Australia, but the overwhelming majority will try to get into the United States, and that's going to mean that we don't just put walls at the border, but we're going to have to have National Guard, if not regular troops there.

00:41:46.000 Mexico poses a much greater threat to us than, say, Pakistan or Afghanistan. 1.00

00:41:51.000 Clearly past administrations, since Bill Clinton, George Bush, and now Obama, admittedly are allowing Mexico to use the United States as a steam valve.

00:42:04.000 Way over 30 million illegal aliens that come back and forth, and upwards of 40% I've seen in the news of the money they send back ends up being paid in secret taxes.

00:42:13.000 So that's the U.S.

00:42:15.000 funding this corruption as well.

00:42:17.000 And it looks like the establishment is going to attempt, with this contiguous Security Prosperity Partnership border, from what I've seen in the SPP, North American Union integration documents, that Judicial Watch sued and got about two years ago, what I see happening is that, and they're talking about it, is somehow the U.S.

00:42:37.000 invading, backing up the Mexican military.

00:42:40.000 They're somehow then legalizing tens of millions more workers.

00:42:46.000 I mean, I don't see that working.

00:42:48.000 I mean, I think we need to shut that border down right now.

00:42:52.000 And pushback is coming.

00:42:55.000 As we know, the politicians in Washington live in their own world.

00:43:00.000 But where you find resistance to the porosity of the border is in state legislatures.

00:43:09.000 And you see it in Texas, you see it in Arizona.

00:43:14.000 You see it in Arkansas, you see it in Tennessee, you see it all throughout the South and the Southwest, where hundreds of bills are being introduced to curtail the benefits given to illegal immigrants. 0.80

00:43:30.000 And as our unemployment rate approaches 10% in this country, I think that some of the candy-ass liberals in Washington are even going to, excuse my language, are even going to rethink their positions because they are out of touch with their constituents.

00:43:51.000 And Alex, I have to tell you, I'm a yellow dog Democrat.

00:43:54.000 I'm a Roosevelt Truman Democrat, but I can't believe that we are shortchanging legal residents of the United States who have serious problems, who've lost their jobs, who've lost their homes, and are contemplating opening who've lost their homes, and are contemplating opening the border to those who are trying to enter illegally or giving citizenship to those who've broken the law to get into this country.

00:44:24.000 Well, Professor Grayson, you're absolutely right.

00:44:27.000 I mean, this is just reality.

00:44:29.000 I've studied many nations of the planet, and you know, you study this, you know, professionally, but I can't think of many other nations, except for maybe some Central African or West African, Eastern African nations that are as bad as Mexico, and on the verge of just disintegration, as Mexico is.

00:44:51.000 I mean, it's one of the Well, it's so wealthy, triple the natural resources we have, but also so corrupt. 0.75

00:44:58.000 And I can't think of having a more vile, nasty neighbor. 0.81

00:45:04.000 I mean, could the U.S.

00:45:05.000 border a more corrupt, out-of-control, dangerous nation with 100 million people set to, what, double in the next 30 years to 200 million people who get free health care, anchor babies, everything's going bankrupt here, tent cities sprouting up from Michigan to California to Florida, and the government is just going forward with more benefits?

00:45:27.000 I mean, what is going to happen both on our side and in Mexico?

00:45:32.000 The population's going to probably stabilize in Mexico at about 115, 118 million.

00:45:40.000 Because Mexico, like ours, is an aging society. 0.83

00:45:46.000 On a person-to-person basis, there are no nicer people in the world.

00:45:51.000 No, I know that.

00:45:52.000 I agree, but the system is so... I mean, I've been shut down by Mexican cops, so... Go ahead. 1.00

00:45:57.000 Yeah, well, I agree.

00:45:59.000 If my car...

00:46:01.000 We're to break down an isolated area.

00:46:03.000 The last vehicle I would want to approach me would be a police car, because you know you're going to get ripped off six ways to sundown.

00:46:15.000 But there's a growing Mexican middle class.

00:46:19.000 A lot of the criticism that we make of the Mexican government is made in Mexico.

00:46:24.000 But I fear that with the pre likely to come back to power, That conditions are going to deteriorate and there's going to be more collusion between the organized crime that's in the private sector and the organized crime that's in the public sector in the form of politicians.

00:46:51.000 Okay, quantify Mexico getting worse for the foreseeable future.

00:46:57.000 Many experts are saying it's on the verge of collapse.

00:46:59.000 You're saying, well no, more of a slow rotting.

00:47:02.000 What is it going to rot into?

00:47:05.000 There's going to be a growing unemployment.

00:47:08.000 More than a million newcomers enter the labor market each year.

00:47:13.000 They can't find jobs.

00:47:15.000 And moreover, Mexico's lost hundreds of thousands of jobs because of the economic crisis generated in the United States.

00:47:25.000 The educational system is one of the worst in the relatively developed world.

00:47:32.000 The health care system is spotty, to say the least.

00:47:38.000 And there is a just a pervasive pessimism, which I've never encountered before, that is engulfing middle-class Mexicans, and I've had many of them say, if I could find a job in Norway, if I could find a job in England or the U.S., and they're talking about legal work now, 0.72

00:48:02.000 I would take it in a heartbeat, even if it meant leaving my parents, I would take it in a heartbeat, even if it meant leaving my parents, my And one of the wonderful things about Mexico is that they are so family-oriented.

00:48:14.000 Oh yeah, great people. 0.98

00:48:15.000 I mean, that's the paradox here, or the oxymoron, is they're great, hard-working, smart, great ingenuity, just some of the best artwork, just amazing people, but then the government's pure scum and filth.

00:48:30.000 I mean, I just... And that's what we're finding now in places like Michoacán, which is on the Pacific Coast, has the country's largest port, is that in rural areas, the drug cartels are actually vetting the candidates for public office.

00:48:55.000 And the cartels aren't so much concerned about Mexican deputies or senators who will serve in Mexico City.

00:49:04.000 Their focus is on mayors.

00:49:08.000 And municipal officers.

00:49:10.000 That's smart!

00:49:11.000 They know the real power is in the local area.

00:49:13.000 I've also read and seen reports all over where they're stealing people's land.

00:49:17.000 That they're pushing some of the small middle class off too.

00:49:21.000 They may be doing some of that.

00:49:23.000 But Mexico, several drug dealers have just been found to be beneficiaries of some farm subsidy programs that the Mexican government operates.

00:49:37.000 Digressing the acid baths, I've read some about that.

00:49:42.000 They're torturing people in acid or getting rid of the bodies in acid?

00:49:46.000 Oh, they have various ways.

00:49:49.000 For example, in Michoacan about a year and a half ago, they took five fellows who apparently had been flirting with a cartel member's girlfriend.

00:50:04.000 And while they were alive, they sawed their heads off and then the next night they went to the place where the girlfriend worked and tossed the heads onto the dance floor just to sort of send a message that you don't mess with us.

00:50:24.000 And the beheadings are becoming legion.

00:50:30.000 You can't say in a joking fashion Well, let's not lose our head over this, because it may have resonance in Mexico.

00:50:39.000 And they're finding absolutely despicable ways to torture people.

00:50:44.000 And they're going after some of these military officers who've taken up security functions in the cities.

00:50:50.000 A general was hired about a week ago in Cancun.

00:50:56.000 They broke all of his... broke his arms and legs.

00:50:59.000 before pumping a bunch of bullets into his head just to say that no one is exempt from our violence.

00:51:07.000 I'll tell you what, Professor, we're gonna break.

00:51:09.000 Can we do five more minutes with you to the end of the hour?

00:51:11.000 Sure, I'll be fine.

00:51:12.000 I want to come back and talk more about, you know, their machine gunning, the police and military, and in summation, what the breakdown will finally come to.

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00:54:26.000 This book is Mexico's Struggle with Drugs and Thugs.

00:54:30.000 Professor George Grayson of William & Mary.

00:54:36.000 Professor, you know, you go through all these killings, the torture, the murder.

00:54:40.000 Now Phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the United States.

00:54:45.000 From what you say, it's just going to get worse and worse and worse and we have to fight with the federal government not to just totally, I guess, let all this murder and killing and car bombings in Dallas and rocket attacks on the Texas border.

00:54:56.000 I guess it's just... and I've interviewed sheriffs where the Mexican troops come across the border when they get some of the drugs in a shipment and put guns to the sheriff's heads and, you know, then I have state reps on and they go, well, I don't know if that's true when it's in the newspapers on the border.

00:55:12.000 I mean, you say it's just going to get worse.

00:55:14.000 I mean, until what?

00:55:15.000 I mean, what's going to happen?

00:55:19.000 I really think that decriminalization has to be the longer term answer.

00:55:27.000 And earlier we talked about the parallels with prohibition.

00:55:31.000 And of course, ending prohibition wasn't a silver bullet, but it certainly reduced dramatically The Al Capone type gun battles that went on over turf.

00:55:48.000 And I think we're going to have to open our eyes to that.

00:55:52.000 But at the same time, we're going to continue to see problems springing from Mexico in terms of the lack of opportunities there, driving unemployed Mexicans into the United States, legally if they can, but most likely illegally. 0.96

00:56:11.000 And I think we must stop patronizing Mexico, stop patting them on the head, and say our little brown friends, what can we do to help you? 0.51

00:56:21.000 And emphasize that they do have incredible resources, which if they mobilized, they could greatly improve the conditions for their people.

00:56:36.000 But the culture of corruption, how do they get around that?

00:56:40.000 Well, I've always said that if Mexico could lease its territory to, say, Taiwan or Singapore for 20 years, we'd be talking about the Colossus of the South, and we'd all be buying up pole-vaulting equipment to jump the wall to get into Mexico because of the incredible resources they have. 0.62

00:57:05.000 But we play into the victimization line.

00:57:10.000 And I try to read the New York Times every morning.

00:57:14.000 Sometimes I lose my breakfast because it still believes we should be legalizing illegals amid the high unemployment in the in the United States. 1.00

00:57:26.000 But I think it is going to depend on U.S.

00:57:29.000 policymakers talking turkey with their Mexican counterparts and saying we will cooperate as we're doing with the Merida 0.90

00:57:39.000 initiative but uh... the uh... onus is really on you to improve your public school system to collect more in taxes to uh... throw in jail uh... those cops who were on the take and uh... then they attack the jail uh... you know and and and regretfully uh... often the uh... of the inmates who run the prisons and they've got the same problems with gangs inside uh...

00:58:09.000 Inside the prisons.

00:58:11.000 One way you get around that is you lease the jails out to private industries.

00:58:18.000 And you pay professionals to run your jails.

00:58:22.000 Well, Professor, in closing, I want to thank you for joining us, but I get from everything you've said that it doesn't look like those proper things will be done, and so Mexico, I guess, is just going to turn into the literal pit of hell? 0.78

00:58:36.000 Well, conditions are certainly not going to get better any time soon.

00:58:41.000 All right, the book is Mexico's Struggle with Drugs and Thugs, in bookstores everywhere.

00:58:45.000 Any websites you'd like to fire out, Professor?

00:58:48.000 Well, the book is published by the Foreign Policy Association, and so if anybody wants to go to the Foreign Policy Association, that's in New York.

00:58:57.000 All right, thank you, sir.

00:58:58.000 We're out of time.

00:58:59.000 Thank you so much for the time.

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01:01:01.000 Gordon Brown admitting there's a World Government World Banking System, but they'll have a new World Government Banking System to save you from it, and he's on his way to the United States to pitch this to the public.

01:01:10.000 So we will continue to break that down and cover it today.

01:01:15.000 Right now, you've been holding a while, let's take your phone calls.

01:01:18.000 Let's talk to Don in Alabama, in Bama.

01:01:22.000 You're on the air, Don.

01:01:23.000 How you doing, Alex?

01:01:25.000 Good, sir.

01:01:26.000 I would like to talk about people's political affiliations today.

01:01:31.000 Uh, you know, I've spoken up about Bush and his policies previously and over the years, you know, we've all gotten used to it, but lately I've gotten a lot of feedback from people.

01:01:40.000 It seems like Republicans now are seeing that they have a chance to, uh, throw rocks at a democratic president.

01:01:48.000 But my point to them is that it isn't about political affiliation.

01:01:53.000 It's something that is universal.

01:01:54.000 It isn't that I'm a Democrat.

01:01:56.000 Uh, I'm just trying to point out facts of things that are going on.

01:02:00.000 It's about policies and what the policies are of the gang of crooks in Washington.

01:02:05.000 It has no regard to whether you're a Democrat or a Republican.

01:02:10.000 You know, I sat there and I told them early on, as soon as I saw Brzezinski's name, I knew Obama would win the election.

01:02:16.000 It was just a hands-down thing. 1.00

01:02:17.000 People shake their head at me and, oh, you're an idiot. 1.00

01:02:20.000 You know, but it came true. 1.00

01:02:21.000 Of course it was.

01:02:22.000 I've seen the name before.

01:02:23.000 I know what's going to happen.

01:02:27.000 But I try to get people to, if you want to, sit there and talk about what's going on, stand with me.

01:02:34.000 Don't try to stand across from me like you're opposing me as a Republican.

01:02:39.000 No, no, it's mindless party partisanship where the Republicans will attack Obama now for carrying out the same policies of Bush.

01:02:46.000 The Democrats will support Obama when he's carrying out the same policies of Bush.

01:02:50.000 It is utter madness and childlike simplicity for people not to be able to see through the fact that both parties are bought and paid for by the same interest!

01:02:59.000 Well, you know, I can go back and point to them and say, well, you're part of the Democratic-Republican Party.

01:03:05.000 Because that's where it all started, and they split apart and went their own way.

01:03:08.000 The Republicans, the Republicans, yeah.

01:03:10.000 It's all the same thing from way back in the 1800s.

01:03:13.000 They just split and went their different way.

01:03:15.000 They're both paid-off groups.

01:03:16.000 But I just like to encourage Republicans who want to call themselves that and Democrats who want to call themselves that to stand together and not try to belittle each other and belittle each other's efforts.

01:03:29.000 Oh, I agree.

01:03:30.000 I appreciate your call, Don.

01:03:31.000 There was this big Republican CPAC or whatever meeting Friday, Saturday, and Ron Paul spoke at it and was anti-war and got cheered, was anti-New World Order and got cheered, but then Limbaugh and all the rest of them went up there and acted like this whole corrupt system was just set up overnight by Obama and acted like they're the good conservatives and they had a straw poll and Mitt Romney's their man.

01:03:54.000 That guy's about as conservative as Mao Zedong.

01:03:59.000 Again.

01:04:00.000 Then in four to eight years they'll put a Republican in, suddenly Republicans will love everything Obama was doing because a Republican will be doing it.

01:04:07.000 It is a mindless joke.

01:04:09.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Tee in Canada.

01:04:11.000 Tee, go ahead. 1.00

01:04:14.000 Hello.

01:04:15.000 Hello, Tee.

01:04:16.000 Yes, how are you?

01:04:17.000 Actually, my name is Dahogged, but your guy couldn't pronounce it, but Tee's good.

01:04:22.000 I wanted to know if you've seen this film by John Harris on YouTube called It's an Illusion.

01:04:28.000 I think it's very important.

01:04:29.000 I don't think so.

01:04:31.000 Well, you know, you should get your guys on YouTube to search this John Harris.

01:04:35.000 It's an illusion.

01:04:36.000 He shows how the whole New World Order works as a corporation.

01:04:41.000 Oh yeah, I've seen that.

01:04:42.000 We posted it last week.

01:04:45.000 That's the Freeman Society.

01:04:47.000 I don't know.

01:04:48.000 I'm just looking at the good... I favorited it on my tube set.

01:04:53.000 But it's a guy in England, right?

01:04:54.000 Yeah, it's like a regular working guy who figured it all out.

01:04:58.000 Well, we figured it out too.

01:05:00.000 We've been covering that for more than a decade.

01:05:01.000 Yes, you have.

01:05:02.000 I'm not saying, oh, we figured it out.

01:05:04.000 We're smart.

01:05:05.000 I'm just saying, yes, everybody's figuring it out.

01:05:07.000 Stay there.

01:05:08.000 You can talk more about it when we come back and take more calls as well.

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01:08:29.000 Okay, I've got some video clips I want to play coming up to you.

01:08:35.000 We've got to hurry here.

01:08:36.000 T, finish up the points you wanted to make, sir.

01:08:38.000 Yeah, it was...

01:08:40.000 It's really good how this guy, just a simple guy, working man, figures it all out and shows that the MPs are all traded in Dun & Bradstreet, listed as corporations, all of their courts are all listed as corporations.

01:08:52.000 Prisoners in jails are everything.

01:08:55.000 It's a global crime syndicate through corporate maritime administrative law.

01:09:01.000 Correct.

01:09:03.000 Anyways, and I also wanted to thank you.

01:09:04.000 I always listen to your radio show.

01:09:06.000 You have a great show and a great audience.

01:09:09.000 Well, thank you, T. We appreciate your call.

01:09:12.000 Let's talk to Abdullah in Ohio.

01:09:15.000 You're on the air.

01:09:16.000 How you doing?

01:09:18.000 Hey, Alex, how are you?

01:09:20.000 Good.

01:09:21.000 Hey, listen, I've been listening to you since May 2008.

01:09:21.000 Good.

01:09:25.000 I think you've got a great show, good message, and, you know, it's real difficult waking people up to what you're talking about. 0.77

01:09:31.000 I was talking to those people that I work with, and they just kind of accept being slaves, and it's ridiculous to me. 0.83

01:09:36.000 I'm African-American, so it's really repulsive to me. 1.00

01:09:39.000 That's a whole different subject.

01:09:41.000 I called because I told the guy that answered your phone that I was actually in the masjid, or the mosque, as you guys call it, in Toledo, where they sent the FBI agent in to infiltrate and basically make a case against people.

01:09:55.000 The point you made is that they choose the crazy people and they try to prop them up and make them into, you know, some kind of a criminal.

01:10:02.000 Yeah, for those who don't know, let me stop you and I'll give you the floor. 1.00

01:10:07.000 I talked an hour and a half ago about how we've had feds over and over again just show up at our events and say, Alex, let's go kill police. 0.76

01:10:14.000 And I'm like, you're a big cop.

01:10:16.000 What is this?

01:10:17.000 You know we're nonviolent.

01:10:18.000 Get out of here.

01:10:20.000 Because when the police do that, that's a crime.

01:10:24.000 It's not even entrapment, it's provocateuring.

01:10:27.000 They are trying to get a crime committed where people get hurt and killed.

01:10:32.000 And in the case in Ohio, it came out in the Associated Press during the trial that the guys weren't planning anything, they weren't doing anything, they were led by this FBI informant whose idea it was, he just got them to shoot their mouths off, yeah, you know.

01:10:45.000 We ought to go ahead and do something. 0.98

01:10:46.000 And then it was all over the news, a secret army of Muslims were going to kill everybody. 1.00

01:10:50.000 They were deadly strike forces of the most vicious. 1.00

01:10:53.000 They were planning to destroy all of America. 0.99

01:10:55.000 The Black Street kids, who weren't even Muslim, it was Muslims, were planning an army attack on every major city and to destroy in total destruction. 1.00

01:11:03.000 It was a nationwide network of the most powerful, savage control mechanisms ever seen. 0.87

01:11:08.000 They were trained.

01:11:09.000 They were ready.

01:11:10.000 Oh my God.

01:11:11.000 And then six months later it came out it was all staged.

01:11:12.000 None of it was true.

01:11:13.000 It was all made up.

01:11:14.000 And they take the guys that bombed the World Trade Center.

01:11:16.000 FBI cooked the bomb, trained the drivers. 1.00

01:11:18.000 They were too dumb to even know where to park it. 0.99

01:11:20.000 Thank God it didn't blow up the main support column. 0.99

01:11:21.000 I mean, over and creating Klan groups.

01:11:24.000 And the Southern Poverty Law Center tied into Elohim City and the white supremacist compound Oklahoma City.

01:11:29.000 Over and over and over again.

01:11:31.000 But go ahead now since I brought folks back up to speed on what we were talking about an hour and a half ago and tell folks.

01:11:36.000 You know, everything that you say rings so true to me because the FBI, they investigated me.

01:11:44.000 They came to my mother's house.

01:11:45.000 They couldn't find where I lived.

01:11:47.000 It was my mother's house.

01:11:49.000 And me and my son-in-law come over to my mother's house.

01:11:51.000 My dad had cancer at the time.

01:11:53.000 I thought my dad died or something.

01:11:56.000 And my mom's just like, come over.

01:11:57.000 I want you to come over for a little while.

01:11:59.000 And I get over there and there's like four FBI guys in my house, or Homeland Security, in my mom's house.

01:12:06.000 They took my son-in-law in one room and grilled him.

01:12:08.000 They took me in another room and grilled me.

01:12:10.000 And you know, the strange part about it is, and you know, agendas being what they are, the mosque of that tent was mostly African American. 0.55

01:12:18.000 The three people that they pulled out of there were all African Americans.

01:12:20.000 I mean, it was planned from the beginning.

01:12:22.000 The guy who was the FBI informant, talk about he was fearing for his life after everything was said and done, getting $50,000 or $300,000 or whatever he got.

01:12:33.000 To come in and just, you know, make up a bunch of lies about people.

01:12:36.000 I mean, it's repulsive.

01:12:38.000 Well, it came out in the news that he was leading it and commanding it.

01:12:43.000 I mean, there was... I mean, if I could tell you... I mean, I wish I had more time to tell you.

01:12:47.000 I know you've got a quick break coming up, but... No, this is important.

01:12:51.000 Tell folks what happened.

01:12:53.000 Oh, this guy... I'm going to use a stupid analogy, okay? 1.00

01:12:56.000 You could say you like Russian ballet on the Wii game system. 0.99

01:13:00.000 This guy would tell you, oh, I've got a collection of that.

01:13:03.000 And you know, just come out.

01:13:04.000 Whatever you want to do, he wanted to do it with you all the time.

01:13:07.000 I mean, it's just strange stuff.

01:13:08.000 I went to the high school in Toledo, and everybody in the high school, I went to his two rival high schools.

01:13:14.000 He said he went to the other high school, and just for the sake of Scott and Matt Cumber.

01:13:18.000 He said he went to Matt Cumber.

01:13:19.000 Everybody that I said I knew from there, he didn't know a doggone person.

01:13:24.000 He swore up and down.

01:13:25.000 He was on the border between Kuwait and Iraq when Saddam Hussein gave the order to attack Iraq.

01:13:31.000 He said he was Special Forces.

01:13:34.000 I had a Eastern Czechoslovakian gun.

01:13:38.000 He said he was in Special Forces.

01:13:39.000 That's at the height of the Cold War when he's supposed to be in there. 1.00

01:13:42.000 He should know everything about this damn gun, being in Special Forces. 1.00

01:13:46.000 He didn't even know what the damn gun was. 1.00

01:13:47.000 It's obvious. 1.00

01:13:49.000 Hold on, sir.

01:13:50.000 Specifically, was he trying to get you to, hey, we ought to attack somebody?

01:13:54.000 No, he would drop little hints.

01:13:57.000 You know, the mosque we attend, we spoke out against terrorism.

01:14:00.000 We spoke out against all that stuff.

01:14:02.000 So he was being careful, but I mean, the feds I've seen just openly sit down next to you in your seat at a restaurant and go, let's attack the State Department.

01:14:09.000 And I'm like, what the hell are you talking about, man?

01:14:11.000 I got a wife and kids!

01:14:12.000 I'm a radio host!

01:14:14.000 I'm not weird because I want to come cover world leaders setting up a world bank secretly in my country with Obama and Hillary in there secretly.

01:14:22.000 You're right, I mean... Go ahead.

01:14:25.000 They're a little bit more subtle.

01:14:26.000 I mean, I'll put it like this.

01:14:30.000 If I really want to infiltrate you, I'm not going to come in and say stuff that's counter to what you're trying to do.

01:14:34.000 I'm going to know it better than you do.

01:14:36.000 And I'm going to come in and say some things that will allow me to get in closer to what I consider to be the inner.

01:14:41.000 No, I understand.

01:14:43.000 So what would he say to you?

01:14:45.000 He just said, you know, I'm trying to learn Arabic.

01:14:45.000 He'd be lying.

01:14:48.000 He learned Arabic to a certain extent.

01:14:50.000 He was pretty proficient.

01:14:51.000 I mean, he portrayed himself as a new convert.

01:14:54.000 And, you know, my son-in-law was the imam, and he used to, you know, teach Arabic and stuff.

01:15:00.000 He infiltrated and tried to get closer to people who were, you know, like nationally that we knew, just people that, you know, knew from different communities and everything.

01:15:07.000 I mean, he tried all types of different ways to get and get these people arrested.

01:15:12.000 One of the guys he tried to get was in a different city, and, you know, they had already visited him, the FBI and stuff.

01:15:17.000 And so the guy that was in a different city called and said, hey, I think this guy is a terrorist.

01:15:22.000 And nothing happened to this guy.

01:15:24.000 That's when we were all convinced.

01:15:25.000 I mean, a lot of people that were in the surroundings... So the mosque is calling the feds, saying we think this guy's a terrorist, do something, and nothing happens to him.

01:15:33.000 Nothing happens. 0.78

01:15:34.000 Did he get the other guys to shoot their mouths off? 0.88

01:15:37.000 Oh my God! 0.94

01:15:39.000 Alex, the three guys, okay?

01:15:41.000 There's three of them that were supposed to be in it.

01:15:43.000 The one guy, I kind of knew, because he used to sell clothes and stuff.

01:15:46.000 I bought clothes from him.

01:15:47.000 Well, you know, they have stage deals where even the guys they bust are staged, and none of it's real.

01:15:51.000 That's come out where they'll arrest a top al-Qaeda, and two years later it'll say, oh, it was really to protect him.

01:15:56.000 We put him in witness protection.

01:15:58.000 It wasn't real.

01:15:59.000 Go ahead.

01:16:01.000 He was the guy that always got a big deal, and it never came through.

01:16:04.000 You know, I got $10 million coming in.

01:16:07.000 You know, can I borrow $25 to get here?

01:16:08.000 That's the kind of guy he was. 0.94

01:16:10.000 The other two guys, I mean the one that went over to Jordan, that guy was mentally insane. 0.63

01:16:15.000 He was, I mean, I don't know if you know anything about a lot of Arabs, but Arabs usually got money.

01:16:20.000 This guy would come to a group of African Americans who were struggling, asking for $5 to get the bus to go to school every day.

01:16:26.000 So I don't know where he got the money to go to Jordan, except that this guy paid for it.

01:16:30.000 and all the rest of the crap that the other guy was just a young guy he didn't really know what was going on he tripped up into a situation somebody told him some stuff and you know he watched some videos next thing you know he's gonna in a terrorist thing I mean if you ever looked at him when he's come out of court he is just like a deer in headlights I didn't really know those two guys at all I mean I barely knew their names but I mean Alex it's ridiculous the way and see people a lot of people say well hey if you're Muslim and you know you're you're guilty and and it's okay you 0.93

01:16:57.000 You should be a patriot and let the police come in and spy on you. 0.93

01:17:04.000 There's all this about how they love the Arabs and they're not racist or bigoted.

01:17:08.000 Let me tell you, in the military you're called hajis. 0.96

01:17:11.000 And you're not human and it's a big joke when they just shotgun a little kid and the kid blows in half.

01:17:11.000 Right.

01:17:16.000 They go, rogue leader! 1.00

01:17:17.000 How dare you little bastard! 1.00

01:17:18.000 Look at him crying! 1.00

01:17:21.000 I mean, it's just, you know, hey, let's get this family's car and run over it with a tank, and there's video.

01:17:25.000 Ah, look at this family drive by!

01:17:28.000 And it's just like... And these people think that they're going to be safe in a government run by people like this.

01:17:37.000 No, they're going to loot and rob all of us, folks.

01:17:39.000 Criminals are in control.

01:17:41.000 You are 100% right, Alex.

01:17:44.000 And by the way, they fund and train the military to commit these atrocities, and they put out the Abu Ghraib on purpose, the CIA put that out, that's been documented, to make America be hated!

01:17:55.000 And now, they're saying, America's fault for everything, it's gonna implode, a new Bank of the World's gonna form, and you understand the mastermind set-up of this?

01:18:04.000 Oh my God, Alex, everything you're saying is so true, man.

01:18:08.000 Watching it from the inside, I mean, obviously, I had a very small run. 0.99

01:18:13.000 I commend you for having the strength and courage to put up with this crap on a regular and daily basis. 0.98

01:18:18.000 I know you're a target. 0.99

01:18:19.000 I mean, I can't even imagine. 0.97

01:18:22.000 They had helicopters following us and crap. 0.80

01:18:26.000 You can't believe the stuff. 0.83

01:18:27.000 I mean, I don't talk much about it on air.

01:18:29.000 It's been quite a circus.

01:18:30.000 But, you know, I just say, God, I'm trying to do the right thing.

01:18:34.000 I try to, you know, just stay forward.

01:18:36.000 And it's not even fear anymore.

01:18:39.000 It's just more gripping, like jumping into cold ice water.

01:18:42.000 Whoa, this is real!

01:18:44.000 And you know, that's how I can be up here at 2, 3 in the morning totally exhausted with no sleep and keep working because I go anytime they can set me up, anytime they can kill me, I just gotta get, you know, more salvos into the enemy in the info war.

01:18:54.000 You know, I mean literally, it's like I'm in a big gun firing at the enemy battleship that's coming at me firing.

01:18:58.000 I'm like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:19:00.000 How are you?

01:19:00.000 Hi, Alex.

01:19:00.000 got to stay at my post and just keep firing no matter what they do.

01:19:03.000 But God bless you, my friend.

01:19:04.000 I appreciate you calling the show.

01:19:06.000 Let's take another call here.

01:19:08.000 Let's talk to Rare in Taiwan.

01:19:10.000 I would have gone to that first.

01:19:11.000 I thought it was Taiwan.

01:19:12.000 Rare, thanks for holding.

01:19:13.000 Hi, Alex.

01:19:15.000 Welcome.

01:19:16.000 Good.

01:19:17.000 Actually, it's Rare Candor on your forum.

01:19:21.000 Okay, great.

01:19:22.000 Rare Candor, welcome.

01:19:23.000 I need to say hi to all the folks on the forum, and especially Coyote for all of his excellent mentoring there.

01:19:34.000 I'm just curious, have you ever had investigative journalist Mr. John Pilger on your program?

01:19:43.000 That name rings a bell.

01:19:45.000 Pilger.

01:19:46.000 What's he do?

01:19:48.000 Well, his recent documentary, War and Democracy, Just won the 2008 One World Award.

01:19:59.000 Oh, One World!

01:20:00.000 Stay there.

01:20:00.000 I want to hear about it when we come back.

01:20:02.000 Stay there from Taiwan. 1.00

01:20:03.000 Then, Brenton, Montana, Adam in Florida, and Paul in California.

01:20:08.000 That'll be it for calls, because then I've got to play some video clips, and have Jason Burmison's studio.

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01:24:49.000 Go tell that long-tongued liar, go and tell that midnight rider, tell the rambler, the gambler, the back-biter, tell them that God's gonna... That's right, we trust in God. 0.99

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01:25:06.000 All right, going back to Rare in Taiwan.

01:25:09.000 Finish up your comments.

01:25:10.000 Yeah, again, that's Rare Condor.

01:25:13.000 Anyways, Yeah, the film is basically, probably the most important part about it is how the United States government backed the elites, supported the elites in Chile to overthrow the government.

01:25:31.000 I forget the president's name now.

01:25:34.000 But how it got twisted around and how the people came back, the regular people, and Took him back.

01:25:45.000 Got him back.

01:25:46.000 Put him back into government.

01:25:47.000 Re-installed him.

01:25:49.000 It's a very interesting film.

01:25:51.000 Again, it's War on Democracy.

01:25:54.000 You can Google it and watch it for free.

01:25:57.000 It's very interesting.

01:25:59.000 Alright, got it brother.

01:26:00.000 Anything else from Taiwan?

01:26:03.000 No, sir.

01:26:05.000 Nothing at all.

01:26:06.000 Thank you very much.

01:26:06.000 Appreciate the call.

01:26:08.000 Let's go to Brent in Montana.

01:26:12.000 You're on the air.

01:26:14.000 Hey, how you doing?

01:26:15.000 Good, sir.

01:26:16.000 Hey, I just wanted to thank you, first and foremost, for what you're doing for the country.

01:26:22.000 And I believe that you're a patriot for what you do.

01:26:26.000 Thank you.

01:26:27.000 I'm on a mission.

01:26:29.000 I'm sorry?

01:26:30.000 I'm on a mission.

01:26:32.000 Thank you.

01:26:33.000 Thank you, sir.

01:26:35.000 I just wanted to say real quick that I'm new to all of this.

01:26:39.000 I'm new to politics.

01:26:43.000 It's been quite an eye-opener.

01:26:47.000 This past election is what got me into it.

01:26:51.000 My mom got me into Fox News at first, and just one thing led to another, led to another.

01:26:58.000 I eventually found your show, and you've opened my eyes to quite a few things.

01:27:07.000 I listen to a lot of the radio shows out there, just about all of them, and I think you're Uh, the best out there because you're speaking the actual truth.

01:27:18.000 The other guys, they're great, but it's like they're scared to talk about what really needs to be talked about.

01:27:28.000 Or they nitpick.

01:27:29.000 A lot of them.

01:27:29.000 There's a lot of great folks though.

01:27:30.000 Some of them nitpick about everybody else and it's a personal power trip.

01:27:36.000 I just want to say that I'm really disgusted as an American what is going on with our country.

01:27:41.000 But that happens in any revolution against tyranny.

01:27:44.000 That is what happens when you're dealing with millions of people.

01:27:46.000 And that's just part of the ballgame here.

01:27:49.000 I just want to just say that I'm really disgusted as an American about what is going on with our country.

01:27:59.000 I served in the Marine Corps for four years.

01:28:02.000 And the first time I came back from my first Westpac, I literally kissed the ground when I came back and I cried.

01:28:13.000 I was happy to be back in America, and I'm just really saddened by what's going on.

01:28:25.000 It really bothers me, and I just got done watching one of your videos on the Uh, Bohemian Grove that you did nine years ago.

01:28:37.000 And one of the things that you said was that even if you're an atheist, you should be very disturbed by this.

01:28:45.000 And you hit it on the money.

01:28:48.000 And, um, you know, I've been pretty much raised atheist, by an atheist, my entire life.

01:28:56.000 Um, I don't consider myself an atheist anymore, but for the majority of my life, I have, I was.

01:29:01.000 And, um, Even... I believe you're right, even atheists should be... Well, the New World Order programmers have taken over Christianity to put out a false Christianity to make it look wicked and evil. 0.88

01:29:17.000 But when you really study the New World Order, you find out they're a cultist and they hate real Christians.

01:29:22.000 And you find out that that is the major battle line, and they just don't want people to realize that, and then they...

01:29:28.000 You know, truly, when you tap into God, when you tap into, you know, that we're a species and that we're all interconnected and you do reap what you sow, and when you tap into the fact there is evil, there is good, then the whole system, the whole panacea, the whole...

01:29:44.000 plane in front of you that you see shifts into focus.

01:29:47.000 They don't want you to have that clarity, that discernment.

01:29:51.000 So come on in.

01:29:52.000 God loves you, and God wants you, and we're all in this together and we love you.

01:29:57.000 So thank you so much for that call.

01:29:59.000 We're going to come back, thank you Brent, with Adam, Paul, and a few others.

01:30:04.000 But we've got Jason Berman Mermis coming to the studio as well in some video clips that I'm going to be playing on the other side.

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01:31:22.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

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01:31:33.000 This is his M.O.

01:31:34.000 We have to look to the Middle East.

01:31:36.000 We have to look to Osama Bin Laden. 0.93

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01:31:45.000 Some U.S.

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01:31:52.000 I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.

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01:33:20.000 In the morning you go running For the man who stole your water Then you will find Alright, I want to play a few audio clips.

01:33:43.000 This is from FederalJack.com.

01:33:44.000 It's up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:33:48.000 CFR Professor reveals plot for military coup in 2012.

01:33:52.000 Now, this is a military coup.

01:33:54.000 The Pentagon's announced.

01:33:56.000 NORTHCOM dominates the U.S.

01:33:57.000 Congress is ceremonial.

01:33:58.000 The governors are ceremonial.

01:34:00.000 And the states are saying no.

01:34:02.000 Feds, you were created by us. 1.00

01:34:05.000 And under the 9th and 10th Amendment, we are declaring sovereignty and saying no to you.

01:34:08.000 I want to play just a few minutes of this.

01:34:11.000 It's again up on InfoWars.com.

01:34:13.000 Folks on the radio can hear the audio.

01:34:14.000 PrisonPlanet.tv viewers can watch it right now.

01:34:16.000 But we have links to it for everybody up on InfoWars.com.

01:34:18.000 Here it is.

01:34:23.000 You guys pumping me some audio in there?

01:34:25.000 Okay, let's rewind that and while we're figuring this out, we've made some studio changes in here for the upcoming new show.

01:34:31.000 So who knows what's going on with that.

01:34:33.000 But let's cue it back up and see if we can get some audio on that feed so we can play that audio Feed for everybody.

01:34:41.000 Okay, I have a backup system of Minnesota.

01:34:45.000 Minnesota, this is Cape Canaveral calling.

01:34:48.000 You have the CFR audio clip I sent you, right?

01:34:51.000 It's all ready?

01:34:52.000 Go ahead and play that for folks.

01:34:54.000 The second question that I'd like to pose relates to the forces driving the emergence of the second world.

01:35:03.000 And have they had an unintentional impact on something that has not been mentioned as well Today, in any of the discussions, namely civil-military relations in the United States.

01:35:16.000 I'd like to call your attention to an analysis by Charles Dunlap in the U.S.

01:35:21.000 Army War College's academic magazine called Parameters.

01:35:27.000 In this analysis, Mr. Dunlap predicts that there will be a military coup in the United States in the year 2012.

01:35:36.000 In part, because we've asked our military to do too much outside of the traditional national security realm.

01:35:45.000 For Mr. Kahnam, has the emergence of the Second World been so destabilizing as to lead to mission creep to the extent that it could lead the Army War College to predict, unofficially of course, that there will be a military coup within the next three to four years.

01:36:06.000 Alright, stop right there.

01:36:07.000 There's already been a military coup, but this is what the Army War College is saying they're going to do separately, and then they write other reports saying this is going to happen.

01:36:17.000 This is what happens when the military gets involved in your daily life.

01:36:20.000 It's why it's been illegal here.

01:36:21.000 It's not illegal in the Congo, not illegal in Mexico, not illegal in Russia, not illegal in China, wasn't illegal in Nazi Germany, It happened. 0.58

01:36:32.000 It will happen.

01:36:33.000 It is happening.

01:36:34.000 The denial has to end.

01:36:38.000 Okay, were we able to get audio and video back?

01:36:42.000 Just never again we'll have it, okay.

01:36:45.000 Ah, boy.

01:36:46.000 That's a good thing for you tonight with the show coming up that you know that now.

01:36:50.000 Let's go ahead and play the audio of Ron Paul at the big CPAC Neocon meeting where he talks about, we killed a million plus Iraqis.

01:37:00.000 And he talks about how war isn't good and the people actually cheer him.

01:37:04.000 Showing that mainline conservatives, you got the most donations from the military of any candidate, actually aren't for this.

01:37:10.000 Just like the media claims all Hispanics want open borders.

01:37:12.000 Gallup poll shows upwards of 80% or higher.

01:37:16.000 That's groupthink.

01:37:17.000 A Hispanic goes, well I better be for open borders then because all Hispanics are for it. 1.00

01:37:20.000 Not true.

01:37:21.000 I'm a conservative.

01:37:22.000 I better be for war because all conservatives are for it.

01:37:24.000 Now the Democrats are like, well I guess we're pro-war because now Obama's for it.

01:37:27.000 This is this groupthink.

01:37:28.000 Let's go ahead and play the Ron Paul speech.

01:37:31.000 Here it is.

01:37:34.000 So we ought to address the subject of foreign policy.

01:37:36.000 Part of the reasons why we lost this last election was the foreign policy issue.

01:37:41.000 Generally speaking, the presidential candidate who argues the case for less war mongering will win the election.

01:37:48.000 And, of course, Obama took the advantage of it.

01:37:51.000 You know, he says, I'm going to end war in Iraq, and I'm going to bring those troops home and solve all the problems. 1.00

01:37:57.000 And he won the election.

01:38:00.000 So this generally is the case.

01:38:02.000 But the truth is, Foreign policy hasn't changed.

01:38:06.000 We should be looking more to what George Bush said in the year 2000.

01:38:11.000 He was strongly critical of the Clinton years, of nation building and being in the policeman of the world, what we were doing in Bosnia and Somalia.

01:38:20.000 And he won the election.

01:38:21.000 He said some very, very good things.

01:38:23.000 But after that, he again joined the internationalists, joined this idea that the American taxpayers, you, have an obligation to take care of everybody and police the world and put our military out there and be exposed to all this danger.

01:38:38.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:38:39.000 This is literally what bankrupts the country.

01:38:42.000 It's the international expenditures.

01:38:43.000 It costs us a trillion dollars a year to take care of our foreign policy.

01:38:49.000 And that cannot last.

01:38:51.000 And it is coming to an end.

01:38:54.000 As a matter of fact, The person most pleased with our foreign policy is Osama Bin Laden because he has written about this and he said, I am going to get you to come over here and we'll fight you on our sand and we will do what we did to the Soviets. 0.84

01:39:15.000 Of course, we helped him do what he did to the Soviets because we subsidized and supported him to drain the Soviets. 0.94

01:39:22.000 And he said he will do the same thing.

01:39:24.000 He will eventually bankrupt this country.

01:39:27.000 And lo and behold, we are weaker for it.

01:39:30.000 Our military personnel are fatigued.

01:39:33.000 I was very proud of what happened last year in the campaign.

01:39:36.000 Because I talk about the old, conservative, Republican, non-interventionist, constitutional foreign policy.

01:39:42.000 And we, in our campaign, got the most money than any candidate from the military.

01:39:48.000 But historically, great nations end when they overextend themselves overseas, whether it's back to the Roman days or the Soviets or whatever.

01:40:06.000 The country feels so emboldened that they go and they think themselves as being overly wonderful and that we are going to spread our message.

01:40:15.000 It actually started in World War I. The truth is, there was no need for us to be involved in World War I. But who wasn't?

01:40:26.000 There it was.

01:40:27.000 Woodrow Wilson said, we have to do it because we have to make the world safe for democracy, which led to this.

01:40:33.000 Millions, hundreds of millions of people killed in the 20th century.

01:40:37.000 So we're back at the same thing.

01:40:40.000 We have to go and spread our goodness in the Middle East.

01:40:42.000 So yeah, we wanted to get rid of a bad guy in Iraq. 0.84

01:40:45.000 We did.

01:40:46.000 But it cost, it cost, it cost, it took another one million Iraqis got killed. 0.74

01:40:53.000 Believe me, they weren't, they weren't all terrorists.

01:40:57.000 Some people didn't particularly like that.

01:41:00.000 But nevertheless, it pleased Osama bin Laden because we were there, we were bankrupting our country. 0.87

01:41:06.000 And right now, today, we get a new president that says he doesn't like He didn't like the war that was going on.

01:41:13.000 So what are we going to do?

01:41:14.000 We're going to drag another 17,000 Americans and pump them into Afghanistan. 1.00

01:41:21.000 Don't we know anything about history?

01:41:24.000 It is bankrupting our country.

01:41:26.000 It will end, whether the people agree with me or not, it will end because we can't afford it.

01:41:30.000 That's the way it's always ended throughout history.

01:41:33.000 That's what the financial crisis is telling us.

01:41:36.000 The welfare state will end because the money will quit working and we will no longer be able to afford to promote what we're doing around the world.

01:41:44.000 And the sooner we realize that, the better.

01:41:50.000 All right, well that was Congressman Ron Paul and obviously I disagree with him about the Osama Bin Laden thing.

01:41:55.000 The real Osama Bin Laden letters that came out said he didn't do 9-11.

01:41:58.000 He was a CIA operative and his family builds all the major U.S.

01:42:02.000 military bases in Saudi Arabia and surrounding areas.

01:42:05.000 But he's playing politics with the CPAC and bringing up that real terrorism, real terrorist groups, anybody that resists, has been increased by the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.

01:42:18.000 And there they are cheering to not wanting to be in the war.

01:42:21.000 Cheering when they're shown the logic of all of this.

01:42:25.000 This is CPAC.

01:42:26.000 And he was the lone voice there out of all the Republicans that were there.

01:42:30.000 Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and countless others in that two-day event.

01:42:34.000 Rush Limbaugh's speech was carried on Fox and C-SPAN, but not Ron Paul's should have been.

01:42:41.000 Though it was carried on some national news stations, because the establishment's having to admit Ron Paul is huge.

01:42:47.000 Ron Paul is having an effect.

01:42:49.000 People are really waking up to the message that the banks are behind it and engineering it.

01:42:53.000 I want to get into, with Jason Bermas, this global new deal.

01:42:58.000 And Gordon Brown is always calling for a new rule of order.

01:42:59.000 The Prime Minister of England coming over here to sell this new global banking system to stop the bad banks, who are the ones setting up And that financed him and are setting up the global banking system.

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01:44:50.000 You're going to be starting your new show here out of my studio via Genesis Communications, coming up this evening, 9 to midnight central.

01:44:57.000 Good to have you here, Jason.

01:44:58.000 Well, thanks for having me, Alex.

01:44:59.000 You bet, buddy.

01:45:01.000 Tell us a little bit about the show, then let's get into this stack of news you have here.

01:45:04.000 Sure, you know, my new show is going to be Monday through Friday.

01:45:06.000 It's called The Info Warrior with Jason Burmess and we're going to be covering, you know, globalist agendas, New World Order stuff, SciTech, really trying to blitz through news and information.

01:45:17.000 I think, you know, what we're about to talk about, Gordon Brown, head of the UK, really pushing for globalization here.

01:45:22.000 And admitting, Alex, over the weekend, to a global shadow banking system.

01:45:27.000 You see, this is something that you have talked about since the inception of your show, and now the EU leaders are talking about it, in order to establish not only that it's real, but more global supervision.

01:45:37.000 But it's a bait-and-switch.

01:45:38.000 Oh, you've discovered there's a secret global banking system that ran the collapse?

01:45:42.000 Oh, we're gonna fix it with a new global bank made up of the very banks running it all, and it'll be called the New World Order.

01:45:49.000 It's all over the news.

01:45:51.000 I mean, this is an incredible bait-and-switch.

01:45:53.000 Absolutely.

01:45:53.000 This is like a bank robber when the police show up, dressing in a police uniform, going, they went that way.

01:45:58.000 Let me manage the bank next time.

01:46:00.000 I'll fix it.

01:46:01.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:46:01.000 Let me just read a couple of the quotes right here.

01:46:04.000 He is calling for a more rigorous global supervision of a banking system on Saturday.

01:46:09.000 And he's saying that this is a, we have to have global supervision of what is a shadow global system.

01:46:16.000 Here he calls it an international shadow banking system.

01:46:19.000 An international shadow banking system.

01:46:21.000 Something, again, you have talked about for over a decade.

01:46:24.000 But the problem is... Hey, I have a news article I was going through a stack from two months ago with the head of the Rothschild family saying, we're setting up a global government, the final global bank's about to be set up, world government.

01:46:35.000 I mean, it's just all over the news.

01:46:37.000 It's there.

01:46:37.000 And, you know, he's also calling for a global new deal with the U.S.

01:46:41.000 It's right here.

01:46:42.000 Okay.

01:46:43.000 This is financial terrorism.

01:46:44.000 They're saying, let us have our world government and then we'll turn the economy back on.

01:46:47.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:46:48.000 Because they got us debilitated on a respirator, and then they turned the respirator off, they hit us on the head, drained our blood, put us on a respirator, and they're leaning over to Schilling, give us total control and we'll turn the respirator back on.

01:47:00.000 Do you agree?

01:47:01.000 Do you agree?

01:47:02.000 He wants President Obama to agree to bold global action, a global grand bargain.

01:47:07.000 It's now not just necessary, but vital.

01:47:09.000 For a world economy.

01:47:11.000 And here he's saying that we need this global New Deal in order to have a truly global society.

01:47:19.000 It's all about globalism, Alex.

01:47:22.000 And you know, talk about global government for a global crisis.

01:47:25.000 Talk about global picks.

01:47:27.000 Uh, what do we have here?

01:47:28.000 Well, he just named Sebelius, who is the Kansas governor, who was of course at the Bilderberg Group.

01:47:32.000 She's on the official list to his administration.

01:47:35.000 So if people out there don't understand that these secret meetings are where they decide who's going to be in the administration, it's right here, okay?

01:47:42.000 It's not a coincidence that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were at the Bilderberg meeting this year, and that they're taking Bilderbergers into their administration.

01:47:51.000 We need to get this out there, Alex, because this shadow system is becoming More and more out in the open, and we have to make sure that they don't pull this bait-and-switch where they offer just another globalist solution to a problem that they created.

01:48:06.000 And it's not a problem!

01:48:07.000 That's why we have Henry Kissinger in, in those same articles.

01:48:09.000 There's two from the Times of London with Brown.

01:48:11.000 He's saying this crisis is not a crisis.

01:48:14.000 It's an opportunity to bring in a new order.

01:48:17.000 A new world order.

01:48:18.000 We will defeat the vicious evil banks.

01:48:22.000 With the very same bankers ruling us.

01:48:24.000 That's how we'll defeat them.

01:48:26.000 And you know, Alex, this seems to tie in with the carbon credit system because this is... No, no, I got it all in the documents.

01:48:31.000 You're gonna pay your carbon credits to them. 0.93

01:48:32.000 And Gordon Brown is one of these guys... How dare you, you vicious man! 0.81

01:48:36.000 He is just a global warming fearmonger. 0.98

01:48:38.000 Seize him!

01:48:38.000 Seize him immediately!

01:48:40.000 In fact, you know, I think I printed you an article last week that you didn't go over, but now they're saying that toilet paper, Alex, it's worse than SUVs and us Americans.

01:48:48.000 No, beef, chicken, asphalt, natural gas, your homes, windows, trash pickup, thousands of new taxes.

01:48:57.000 I keep saying hundreds.

01:48:58.000 I mean, doing research for this film, it's everything.

01:49:00.000 Everything with federal international taxes paid directly to the New Bank of the World.

01:49:05.000 I mean, really, what's it going to be like in 20 years?

01:49:07.000 Are we just going to get a government election?

01:49:09.000 20 years?!

01:49:09.000 They've announced they're going to put satellite tracker boxes in all the cars.

01:49:12.000 Yeah, well, I think that's even, probably in the next 5, 10, I don't think that's even going to be 20 down the line.

01:49:16.000 I mean, if we don't do anything... No, no, no, no.

01:49:18.000 States are already putting it in, like Oregon.

01:49:19.000 They're doing tests here in Austin with people, with them in their cars.

01:49:23.000 And then when opposition builds, Obama goes, we're not going to do that right now.

01:49:26.000 And then they move forward.

01:49:27.000 Well, I mean, you know, people are still bamboozled.

01:49:30.000 I don't hear the outcry now to end the war, now that Obama has given us this very convenient... No, no, now I have liberals when we go downtown to videotape clips for the film, what do you think of Obama?

01:49:38.000 It's like, he's got to keep the troops there for security.

01:49:41.000 Yeah.

01:49:42.000 Well, he said that the secret arrest is going to continue to keep it safe from Al-Qaeda. 0.71

01:49:48.000 And you just can't get through to them.

01:49:50.000 I mean, when you now tell somebody that he's planning to have combat troops, and there's no such thing as a non-combat troop, in there until the end of 2011.

01:49:57.000 Okay, this is yet staging for another election year.

01:50:01.000 He's going to redistribute the forces into Afghanistan.

01:50:03.000 But even at the end of 2011, he's saying 50,000 troops.

01:50:08.000 And I'm not going to be surprised when we get to 2011 and it's not 50,000, it's 150,000.

01:50:13.000 And the Iraqi Special Forces that we've trained are now going into places like Afghanistan and other parts of the Middle East, aiding us.

01:50:20.000 You know, they're going to be our allies.

01:50:21.000 And we're really... And again, that psychology, you say us, and I do that too, like it's still our military, still our country.

01:50:26.000 Until we realize it's not our government, it's not our military, and take it back, it's only going to get worse.

01:50:30.000 I agree.

01:50:31.000 I agree, and I really hope that people step up and take this president and his administration to task.

01:50:36.000 Folks, 2011, especially, they're talking December of 2011, is completely and totally unacceptable, and it's not even a complete withdrawal.

01:50:46.000 No, no, no, they're saying major combat operations will be over in a year and a half, or longer, when Bush said six months into the war, five and a half years ago, that major combat operations were now over.

01:50:59.000 It was over.

01:50:59.000 So he's using the same old Pentagon tricks over and over again.

01:51:03.000 Final segment with Bernie.

01:51:06.000 And by the way, 9 of midnight Central Standard Time, he is going to be live in studio here on the Genesis, on the satellites, everything.

01:51:14.000 Stations out there, hot new live nighttime show.

01:51:17.000 Hope you pick it up.

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01:55:00.000 Alright Burmess, you know the stock market Went below 7,000 today.

01:55:08.000 It's now at 7,063.

01:55:09.000 12-year low, right?

01:55:12.000 Uh, no.

01:55:12.000 That is, yes, 12-year low.

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01:55:20.000 Alright, I'm gonna stop it now.

01:55:23.000 Hey, it's classic.

01:55:23.000 It's hard not to sing along to it, right?

01:55:25.000 I'd rather be doing, I'd rather be fishing right now with headphones on.

01:55:29.000 It's a gorgeous day out too, right?

01:55:30.000 But we've got to fight.

01:55:31.000 We've got to battle.

01:55:32.000 We've got to fight the New World Order.

01:55:33.000 9 to midnight, you've got Gilbert Griffin on the night, going over the history of the New World Order, how it operates, how they control the left and right, the different round table grips.

01:55:42.000 You've got him on for two hours?

01:55:43.000 I believe I have him from 10 to 11 and then we're going to take calls in the final hour.

01:55:46.000 First hour I'm going to try to go over the modern New World Order.

01:55:48.000 We're going to show the Gordon Brown New World Order speech, just to get people associated with who this guy is.

01:55:53.000 I think we're going to be seeing him in the news, especially in the United States, a lot in the next six months, as they restructure an overt globalist banker takeover, which I'm calling Obamanoid.

01:56:03.000 As they said in the Trilateral Commission in the 70s, they would get us all in debt, implode the economy, and then there are the bankers that have the fiat currency for the whole world.

01:56:12.000 I was looking at that Obama magazine that's out there on the stands and I didn't even realize, I mean this guy is the total front man, that this wasn't a Time magazine.

01:56:20.000 It's set up like Time magazine, it looks exactly like Time magazine, except for where it says Time, it says Obama.

01:56:26.000 And Aaron's like, take a look at this.

01:56:28.000 And I look at it and right away I think it's Time magazine.

01:56:31.000 Then I realize it has a $12 price tag.

01:56:33.000 And I'm like, well what is this?

01:56:34.000 And you open it up and it is just complete Propaganda.

01:56:38.000 It is a total Obama litigation.

01:56:40.000 No, no, folks, and they've never in U.S.

01:56:42.000 history put this much propaganda behind somebody.

01:56:44.000 They're planning terror attacks.

01:56:46.000 You watch more wars.

01:56:48.000 So they gotta get this group of zombies to do whatever he says so they can use that group of the American people as a weapon through his Obama Brigade, which they're openly set up under the Pentagon. 0.50

01:56:57.000 It's now official.

01:56:58.000 against the people.

01:57:00.000 That's why the Obama deception is so important.

01:57:03.000 I mean, we're really taking the New World Order on.

01:57:05.000 Toe to toe, the first Obama film, and it's going to be the most hardcore.

01:57:07.000 All his lies, all his treason, his globalist agenda.

01:57:11.000 And it's really all about the banking system, how they're setting up a new bank of the world.

01:57:14.000 Totally timely.

01:57:15.000 Listeners, you have to make this film go mega viral.

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01:57:38.000 That'll take you there as well.

01:57:40.000 I mean, you've been seeing the film, you've been down there for a week and a half.

01:57:42.000 What do you think of it?

01:57:43.000 It looks amazing and, you know, this is the First film to really have a lot of HD news footage, as well as HD interviews that you guys shot.

01:57:51.000 So this is probably, visually, the most high quality Prison Planet production out there yet.

01:57:56.000 And it just looks totally and completely impressive.

01:57:58.000 And we shot it in HD, but it won't be in total HD on the DVD, but it has the HD look.

01:58:02.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:58:03.000 Exactly.

01:58:03.000 I mean, obviously you have to compress the DVD, but it really has a clean, clean, clean look.

01:58:08.000 And Rob has really outdone himself with the editing.

01:58:11.000 The special effects you've gotten for this thing look great.

01:58:13.000 I'm in love with the cover.

01:58:14.000 I think the girl that you got to do the cover, I think that's going to be an iconic image.

01:58:18.000 I think that's going to be passed around.

01:58:19.000 Just the cover is going to make people want to see this film.

01:58:22.000 Well, folks haven't seen the official cover yet, but it's similar to the Obamadeception.net website.

01:58:26.000 Coming up in how many hours?

01:58:28.000 How many hours is it until 9 o'clock tonight?

01:58:29.000 I believe it's five hours away.

01:58:31.000 Wait, we're four o'clock right now.

01:58:33.000 No, three.

01:58:33.000 Six hours away.

01:58:34.000 Six hours away.

01:58:35.000 I went to public schools.

01:58:36.000 I'm still on Eastern Time.

01:58:38.000 Four.

01:58:38.000 No, me, me.

01:58:39.000 I'm like, how many hours?

01:58:41.000 It's three to nine tonight.

01:58:43.000 Mark your calendars for this evening with Burmy.

01:58:46.000 And I'll probably be finishing on the mastering of the film.

01:58:49.000 It's being sent off tomorrow to be mass-produced, so I'll be around.

01:58:51.000 Maybe I'll pop in as well, but Burmus will be in this seat tonight.

01:58:55.000 Retransmission starts at one place right now.

01:58:57.000 InfoWars.com on the web and AMN.FM stations will be broadcasted later.

01:59:01.000 God bless you.

01:59:01.000 See you tomorrow.

01:59:03.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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Alex Jones Show - March 02, 2009

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