Alex Jones Show - 20090319_Thu_Alex

00:00:01.000 Okay, we're going live right now at 1235 Central Standard Time at PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:00:06.000 We'll be simulcasting from the show here on out.

00:00:11.000 Back in 2000-2001, I had two employees.

00:00:14.000 And so, tapes got stacked up.

00:00:15.000 They didn't get labeled right.

00:00:16.000 They went everywhere.

00:00:17.000 Hundreds of important TV shows I did.

00:00:20.000 And it's just gold, the information that's in these.

00:00:24.000 And we're trying to go through these now to get them on the web, to, you know, get them out at PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:00:29.000 But Mike Hanson, who did camera work for me, ran a local TV show at the time, I've asked him to dig through his stuff.

00:00:34.000 He's done that.

00:00:36.000 And because I've been unable to find this particular tape, he was able to find it.

00:00:40.000 uh... in uh... his store of TV programs I did.

00:00:43.000 Pay off for anti-gun testimony caught on tape by Alex Jones is the headline up at InfoWars.com and the reason this story is important we're going to play the video here is that

00:01:01.000 Uh, Jews to Preservation of Firearms Ownerships, local director, we were there testifying against shutting down the gun shows, ending private sales, shutting down 4-H shooting clubs, YMCA shooting clubs for young people and children.

00:01:16.000 That was the bills.

00:01:19.000 And this is when I really woke up to the NRA.

00:01:21.000 Seven years ago now.

00:01:22.000 I guess eight years ago coming up.

00:01:27.000 This was in early 2001.

00:01:32.000 Because the NRA was calling us extremists for not wanting to shut down the gun shows and things.

00:01:37.000 This was in the Dallas Morning News, attacking me and others.

00:01:41.000 And then when we caught the bribery, they said, get out here.

00:01:43.000 You know, they're, what looks like bribery, being paid off.

00:01:46.000 And the House Ethics Committee said that he should have been a registered lobbyist, that it was improper.

00:01:51.000 But then the investigation stopped there, and Hena Hoza, the committee chairman, did get reprimanded.

00:01:56.000 But they get up and they say, yeah, basically there's dangerous gang members everywhere.

00:02:01.000 Uh, and we've, you know, you need to restrict guns, you need to restrict gun shows.

00:02:06.000 And then they go outside and this gun control group sits there and pays them off at least $300 a piece, the, uh, three guys that testified.

00:02:15.000 And then the statesman called me the next day after we put the video out on local TV, I was live that night, and said, why don't you like black people?

00:02:23.000 And I said, what are you talking about?

00:02:24.000 Well, if those were white men being paid and testifying against the Second Amendment, would you have done your story?

00:02:30.000 And I said, I wouldn't care if they were green.

00:02:32.000 I mean, this is a non-issue.

00:02:35.000 So the Statesman headline was, Payments Made to Backers of Gun Bills.

00:02:39.000 And it was the cover of the Metro and State local section of the Austin American Statesman.

00:02:44.000 And I said, are you kidding?

00:02:46.000 And that was in the article.

00:02:47.000 I said, are you kidding, sir?

00:02:49.000 Are you joking with me?

00:02:51.000 And I said, you know, don't say that in your article.

00:02:53.000 That's not what this is about.

00:02:54.000 But no, they did.

00:02:55.000 It was all this Alex Jones racist because he showed black guys being paid.

00:03:00.000 So it's an important article in that respect.

00:03:02.000 And literally there's hundreds of reports.

00:03:05.000 Just this is important.

00:03:06.000 And I'm trying to make enough money to hire a person full time just to go through all my old videos.

00:03:11.000 Because this is stuff that needs to be seen.

00:03:14.000 He needs to flood YouTube and everywhere else and we'll use PrisonPlanet.tv to do that.

00:03:18.000 But I want to thank Mike for digging through his stuff.

00:03:20.000 I'd ask him to do that more.

00:03:21.000 He's got his Mike Hanson Archive page up on YouTube.

00:03:25.000 And this video's been out for a few weeks.

00:03:27.000 It was just emailed to me this morning and I saw it.

00:03:29.000 So we're going to go ahead and play that here.

00:03:31.000 Some of the testimony audio isn't the best.

00:03:33.000 There's only a few minutes of that.

00:03:35.000 But we'll boost the audio up so folks can hear it where they're testifying, basically demonizing the Second Amendment.

00:03:44.000 And go, you know, play the part of, really it makes black folks look bad. 0.56

00:03:46.000 The racism was putting them up there and going, yeah, we're gang members, yeah.

00:03:49.000 You know, we've been gang members, yeah.

00:03:51.000 The Second Amendment, you know, we need to get rid of these gun shows. 1.00

00:03:53.000 It's dangerous.

00:03:55.000 It was really sick what they did.

00:03:56.000 That was what was playing the race card. 0.99

00:03:58.000 You know, like, ooh, here's the scary black guys, you know, and guns. 1.00

00:04:02.000 It was disgusting. 0.99

00:04:03.000 And they were very thuggish once we talked to them outside.

00:04:05.000 You'll see that video at PrisonPlanet.tv right now.

00:04:08.000 And also hear it over the radio.

00:04:11.000 This is one of the guys involved in the Million Mom March here in Texas.

00:04:16.000 Just a disgusting episode, but I've always wanted to play this when we had the bandwidth to put it out for everybody at PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:04:21.000 So here it is.

00:04:23.000 We're going to have the state police officer on in about five minutes from now.

00:04:28.000 So here is the video and the audio.

00:04:31.000 So you guys have paid for your testimony?

00:04:39.000 No.

00:04:40.000 Well, we just saw the gentleman give you money.

00:04:40.000 Nope.

00:04:43.000 Hey, it doesn't matter.

00:04:43.000 Traveling expenses, baby.

00:04:47.000 So, you guys were the Million Mile March?

00:04:50.000 No.

00:04:51.000 Who are you with this camera in?

00:04:53.000 No, he's the guy who has some Austin show.

00:04:57.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:04:59.000 No, actually, it's campaign contributions.

00:05:03.000 Campaign contributions.

00:05:04.000 Man, nobody's getting paid for nothing.

00:05:06.000 What I said in there, that's what I feel.

00:05:08.000 Well, I mean, who gave you the money?

00:05:10.000 It doesn't matter.

00:05:11.000 The money I've been at.

00:05:12.000 I got money all over me.

00:05:12.000 Looks like quite a bill I saw.

00:05:13.000 This gentleman giving you money?

00:05:15.000 I gave him traveling expenses.

00:05:17.000 And I saw you testify, sir.

00:05:20.000 You were here with Nina Butts, funded by George Soros, the foreign currency speculator.

00:05:27.000 So this is how business is done.

00:05:29.000 And who are you?

00:05:30.000 I'm Alex Jones.

00:05:31.000 Oh, hi Alex.

00:05:32.000 I know him.

00:05:33.000 Firearm purchaser and seller to miners.

00:05:36.000 Yeah.

00:05:37.000 Oh, really?

00:05:37.000 I didn't know I was in that business.

00:05:39.000 I thought I was a radio talk show host.

00:05:40.000 Yeah.

00:05:41.000 Oh, that's an effective deal.

00:05:41.000 But really?

00:05:42.000 Yeah.

00:05:43.000 So you guys are taking over the country now, right?

00:05:45.000 Yeah.

00:05:45.000 You are, dude.

00:05:45.000 Nope.

00:05:46.000 You are, dude.

00:05:47.000 Just as soon as people are disarmed, right?

00:05:49.000 Just like Hitler. 0.96

00:05:50.000 Right.

00:05:51.000 So how much did he pay you?

00:05:52.000 It looked like thousands to me.

00:05:54.000 It was $20,000.

00:05:54.000 It was.

00:05:56.000 Well, I saw wads of 20s and 100s.

00:05:57.000 I had to get my camera.

00:05:59.000 I was across the hall there. 0.96

00:06:00.000 You better go buy a gun with that, man.

00:06:01.000 The police told us about it.

00:06:02.000 We better go buy a lot of guns and we're gonna come back and sell them to the NRA.

00:06:06.000 Hey, we're making this show hotter than it's already.

00:06:08.000 Remember, Hitler was for gun control, guys. 0.94

00:06:10.000 Hitler was for gun control. 1.00

00:06:11.000 And if I ever catch him on my block, I'm gonna shoot him. 1.00

00:06:13.000 For real. 0.98

00:06:15.000 So how did the Million Mom March get in touch with you?

00:06:18.000 We're not even a mob.

00:06:19.000 Oh really?

00:06:20.000 You said the name of a group you were with.

00:06:22.000 Young Texans Against Gun Violence, baby.

00:06:26.000 Recognized.

00:06:26.000 And you get paid to do it, huh?

00:06:28.000 Nope.

00:06:28.000 We get a stipend.

00:06:29.000 We get a stipend for volunteering.

00:06:31.000 From who?

00:06:31.000 From that old man?

00:06:34.000 That old man's our best friend.

00:06:36.000 Campaign contribution.

00:06:38.000 It's not my son.

00:06:44.000 You just call little kids names.

00:06:46.000 That's... You don't want to lose your 4-8 shooting club, do you?

00:06:54.000 No, I don't.

00:06:54.000 Well, there's a little bandage where they won't be able to train you how to shoot.

00:06:58.000 And that's their goal.

00:07:00.000 Yep.

00:07:02.000 And so you guys are the 4-8 shooting club.

00:07:03.000 It's unbelievable.

00:07:06.000 You've been waiting all day and they wouldn't even let anybody talk.

00:07:08.000 So they had all the Nina Butz's up there first.

00:07:10.000 Unbelievable.

00:07:11.000 I saw you paying those people off.

00:07:12.000 Your guy.

00:07:13.000 Paying those guys from the Houston 100s.

00:07:15.000 Excuse me.

00:07:16.000 Excuse me.

00:07:17.000 Really?

00:07:18.000 I don't have $100.

00:07:19.000 I caught you on tape.

00:07:20.000 I caught him on tape.

00:07:20.000 You're caught, baby.

00:07:22.000 Really?

00:07:22.000 Yeah.

00:07:23.000 Who are you talking about?

00:07:27.000 What did you see?

00:07:27.000 Because across the hall I saw wads of money.

00:07:30.000 I ran to get the camera.

00:07:31.000 I missed it and I came back and I thought he hid the money.

00:07:35.000 She told me that the woman... We went over there and he was counting them out.

00:07:42.000 I saw hundreds and twenties.

00:07:46.000 We think he gave each guy like $400, right?

00:07:48.000 Well no, he just said all I saw was $400 and I saw him count out.

00:07:50.000 Um, a lot of you guys are looking from the outside in.

00:07:54.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:07:57.000 You guys are looking in on the situation and you guys are living it day to day.

00:08:02.000 I have friends who sell guns, who buy guns from people, who go to the gun shows and get guns at large quantities.

00:08:11.000 You know, I mean, I know all these people.

00:08:13.000 I live them.

00:08:15.000 Well, this is going on.

00:08:17.000 I mean, you guys might think that there's already you already have everything under control, but it's not.

00:08:24.000 I mean, regardless of if we pass this law or not.

00:08:29.000 I mean, things might change, but this This right here, this bill, all three of these bills, this is just the beginning.

00:08:36.000 Because there's bigger threats out there and there's bigger laws that we need to focus on that are being enforced in America.

00:08:44.000 But these three House bills right here, this is just the beginning and I'm all for it.

00:08:53.000 And like I said, you guys are looking, most of you guys are looking out, from the outside.

00:08:59.000 Because I'm there, I'm there every day.

00:09:01.000 We've gone into researching, I don't even want to know where these companies are located at, none of that.

00:09:06.000 But... But then what makes you think that they're selling because of you?

00:09:09.000 Because, that's the only... Who else is gonna give?

00:09:12.000 They don't have a factory in the hood where they're making guns.

00:09:16.000 You don't think some of those guns might be stolen?

00:09:19.000 They're not, man.

00:09:20.000 How can... Where are you going to get so much stolen guns from?

00:09:25.000 From 200 houses maybe, or 10 houses.

00:09:27.000 See, nobody says, alright, nobody... So, I'm sorry, just wanted to clarify.

00:09:34.000 I think what I'm hearing you saying that at least one source of these guns on the street is the gun shop.

00:09:39.000 Yes.

00:09:39.000 Thank you.

00:09:41.000 First question I would like to ask is, do we have an epidemic of gun violence?

00:09:46.000 Because the proponents of the legislation have delayed the very well-intended and sincere testimony of the Maroon 5 march members and others, which leads to believe we have an epidemic of gun violence.

00:09:57.000 That is not the case.

00:09:58.000 Texas and the United States are safer than they have ever been.

00:10:01.000 I won't go into detail, but if you look through the clipping file here that has information from the National Center for Health Statistics and the Centers for Disease Control, U.S. gun deaths at the moment since the mid-60s will say that we do not have an epidemic of gun violence.

00:10:17.000 And we may be in a situation where we're having solutions seeking a problem.

00:10:21.000 Payments made to backers of gun bills.

00:10:25.000 Questions arise over cash given to three witnesses who support gun show background checks.

00:10:31.000 Proponents of gun owners' rights asked Lawmakers Friday to investigate cash payments made to three Houston men who appeared before a House committee this week to support bills that would require instant background checks at gun shows.

00:10:44.000 Dave Smith, president of Houston-based Texans for Gun Safety, A known front that is funded by Hanger Control Incorporated said he gave the three members of Young Texans Against Gun Violence, Nina Butz's group is Texans Against Gun Violence, about $300 each to cover their expenses and lost wages for the trip.

00:11:02.000 All three men, however, said they are currently unemployed.

00:11:06.000 So, they can't get their lives straight.

00:11:08.000 That's lie number four right there.

00:11:12.000 It was reimbursement for their jobs, but they're unemployed.

00:11:14.000 Otarius Kelly 20, one of the witnesses said, it is ridiculous that someone would raise concerns about their testimony.

00:11:20.000 It's against my morals, Kelly said.

00:11:22.000 An admitted gang member, by the way, in the Houston Chronicle, there's another story about this in there.

00:11:29.000 Another witness agreed.

00:11:31.000 The money that was given to us was not to change our testimony, said Bruce Brown, 18, who did not speak to the committee, but submitted a witness form that showed he supported the bills.

00:11:40.000 Smith, who gave the men the cash just outside the committee hearing room, said Young Texans Against Gun Violence is an arm of his group.

00:11:47.000 The subsidiary group receives donations from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, And the Alliance for Justice.

00:11:54.000 Those groups encourage young people to get experience in the political process, Smith said.

00:11:59.000 Yeah, right.

00:12:00.000 Reimbursing witnesses for travel expenses is not unusual, said Susie Woodford of Common Cause Texas, a group that monitors government ethics.

00:12:08.000 But she said other witnesses using cash and paying for witnesses, time raises ethical questions.

00:12:13.000 It totally undermines the witnesses' credibility, Woodford said.

00:12:20.000 I got here, I said, how will this look?

00:12:23.000 It says, complaints about the payments began circulating after Austin-based talk show host Alex Jones, who was at the House Criminal Jurisprudence Committee meeting Tuesday, aired videotaped interviews with Smith and the young men.

00:12:37.000 They told Jones the money was reimbursement, stipends and campaign contributions.

00:12:42.000 Three different stories.

00:12:43.000 It's like the famous scene in a movie.

00:12:45.000 Where are you guys going?

00:12:47.000 What are you doing?

00:12:48.000 Going to see my mother.

00:12:49.000 Going to get something to eat.

00:12:51.000 Going to the moon.

00:12:52.000 It's just making it up.

00:12:54.000 Head of Gun Owners Alliance has asked his thousands of members to seek a house investigation of the payments and to have the hearing disregarded.

00:13:03.000 Smith said complaints are being raised because the young men are minorities.

00:13:06.000 Jones, a strong supporter of gun owners' rights, said Smith was trying to cover up his dirty activities by making accusations of racism.

00:13:12.000 He's sitting here, caught on tape, throwing out different stories and giving out money, said Jones, who mentioned the payments during his testimony against the proposal to require background checks at gun shows.

00:13:22.000 How dare he try to divert attention by saying I'm a racist?

00:13:26.000 Committee members Rick Green, R. Dripping Springs, and Juan Hena-Hoza McAllen said they were uneasy about taking Jones seriously because of other inflammatory comments he has made.

00:13:34.000 Hinojosa, the chairman of the committee, said that although he didn't know details about the payments, he is not concerned if the witnesses are compensated for testifying.

00:13:42.000 Hinojosa said lobbyists are compensated for their work to influence policy on behalf of other interests.

00:13:47.000 Maybe these kids were paid for their travel, but I don't see anything improper about it, Hinojosa said.

00:13:51.000 It is part of the process.

00:13:53.000 It is part of open government.

00:13:54.000 State law requires people who are paid more than $1,000 in three months or who spend more than $500 a quarter trying to influence legislation or agency action to register as lobbyists.

00:14:04.000 So you broke the state election laws, bud.

00:14:07.000 You're not a lobbyist.

00:14:07.000 We checked.

00:14:09.000 Smith said not reimbursing witnesses for lost wages would mean average Texans would be left out of legislative debates.

00:14:14.000 And he said cash made sense.

00:14:18.000 All right, we're back live at PrisonPlanet.tv simulcasting on the radio here.

00:14:23.000 And this is my first time talking to him.

00:14:25.000 My producers talked to him many times.

00:14:27.000 We've set him up for the show.

00:14:27.000 I'm not even going to say which state police agency he's from.

00:14:30.000 We've gotten this from several states, more than several different variants in the last few months.

00:14:35.000 We're going to call him David.

00:14:36.000 That's not his name.

00:14:38.000 That sent us the MIAC strategic report that has gotten national and international Attention.

00:14:45.000 In fact, the MIAC report was here in my stack and then Jason was in here last night doing a show.

00:14:50.000 I'll have to dig it out.

00:14:51.000 Here is the MIAC report.

00:14:54.000 No, that's not it.

00:14:55.000 Well, the point is it's up on Infowars.com and everywhere else.

00:15:00.000 No, that's a copy of the MIAC report.

00:15:02.000 Oh, there it is.

00:15:03.000 Good.

00:15:03.000 Folks, it's so crazy in here setting up guests.

00:15:05.000 I was just talking to Ron Paul's office and then after that I was talking to Chuck Baldwin's office just now and setting up the state police officer right now.

00:15:19.000 What I'm going to do is I'm just going to come back from break.

00:15:22.000 We're going to push Oath Keepers back to about 15 after next hour if I have time to talk on air to the state police officer and restart what I was just covering here with the MIAC report because I got on air and realized I wanted the MIAC report and found it here in the disheveled stack.

00:15:37.000 So we're going to talk to David, state police officer.

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00:18:47.000 FreshwaterOrganics.com Last Wednesday, we broke a report separately sent to us by two separate state police officers in two different states.

00:19:04.000 MYAC Strategic Report, the modern militia.

00:19:06.000 This is federally written to the fusion centers, distributed all over the country.

00:19:10.000 This is the Missouri version with the governor's seal on it.

00:19:12.000 We've got state reps on that have talked to the head of the state police there.

00:19:16.000 The commander, it's true.

00:19:17.000 They admit it.

00:19:18.000 They back it.

00:19:18.000 They support it.

00:19:20.000 We've interviewed and called and played clips with the state police captain in charge at MIAC.

00:19:29.000 This is real.

00:19:30.000 And now, Limbach's covered it.

00:19:32.000 Rush Limbaugh's covered it.

00:19:32.000 We've confirmed those clips.

00:19:33.000 I've watched them during breaks.

00:19:35.000 It is a huge story and it should be.

00:19:37.000 But these and other variants like them go out everywhere.

00:19:40.000 We're joined by David, the current state police officer.

00:19:42.000 We're just going to leave it at that.

00:19:43.000 Not even tell you what state he's in.

00:19:46.000 And have him tell the story of what it's like to have these in the department, other reports they've had, what other officers are saying and what it's like to see this blown up so big.

00:19:55.000 We appreciate his courage because they do have retribution against officers and they talk about that in here if it gets out.

00:20:01.000 Sir, we appreciate you upholding your oath to protect and defend the Bill of Rights and Constitution that so many have fought and died for.

00:20:07.000 Thank you so much, officer.

00:20:09.000 You're quite welcome, Alex.

00:20:12.000 Okay, uh, tell us when you first got this and what it was like reading it and what other officers are saying.

00:20:17.000 Well, they emailed it to all the aerial officers and officers and it's like a training thing, you know, and when I pulled it up on the screen, at first I was in disbelief after I read it and I had to read it a couple of times to understand what are they saying?

00:20:38.000 I thought it was a spoof.

00:20:41.000 When I read it, when I ran it past a few other officers, you know, and they had the same twist that I had on it, that they were actually saying that some of us were militia members, that we belong to a militia group just because, as myself, I have a Ron Paul sticker on my car.

00:21:01.000 Some other officers, they believe that gun control is not correct and that we shouldn't be marking up bullets, ammunition, Act that they're trying to pass through, and listen, wait a minute, this is like a big net taking in everybody.

00:21:17.000 You know, it just doesn't, it didn't appear right, and it seemed like this thing was just anti-American all the way.

00:21:25.000 It really, it really made me mad.

00:21:29.000 So the majority of other officers that you talked to in your state police office, they were upset by it just like you?

00:21:36.000 Yes, they were.

00:21:39.000 I'm telling you, I'm talking about officers that are Kool-Aid drinking officers.

00:21:43.000 I mean, officers that back Bush all the way.

00:21:47.000 Even they were very upset by this document.

00:21:50.000 They said, nah, this can't be true.

00:21:52.000 You know, and a few of them looked at the author of the article and they said, well, of course, that this is probably what comes out of this agency.

00:22:05.000 Yeah, we decided to go with your cell phone because it doesn't have a good connection and kind of distorts your voice, but it's doing its job too well right now.

00:22:12.000 So just, I guess maybe speak a little bit louder for us, officer.

00:22:16.000 I don't want to give out any details about where you are or how senior you are, but we just appreciate, again, your courage coming on.

00:22:22.000 How long ago did you first get emailed this?

00:22:24.000 It came out in the 20th of February.

00:22:26.000 Was it around that time?

00:22:29.000 I got it about a week after the 20th.

00:22:32.000 That's when I opened it.

00:22:34.000 And it took me that long to digest what was actually on this document and really interpret what they were trying to tell us.

00:22:45.000 Well, it's a guilt by association document.

00:22:47.000 I mean, do you agree they mix white supremacists and cop killers in with basically every libertarian or conservative or anti-corruption group under the sun and three popular presidential candidates and a sitting congressman?

00:22:59.000 Yes, I do agree.

00:23:01.000 Exactly.

00:23:05.000 Amazing guilt by association.

00:23:08.000 And then they show American flags, and the don't tread on me, and that's used by most of the military.

00:23:12.000 It's bad if you got that on your car.

00:23:14.000 Look out for folks with these bumper stickers.

00:23:15.000 We're going to come back in one minute, sir, 70 second break, and get into, is this profiling?

00:23:21.000 What is this meant to do when they give this to the state police?

00:23:24.000 And is this why we see state police across the country harassing Ron Paul people?

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00:25:05.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:25:11.000 We are back live, now already into our number three.

00:25:14.000 In about 15 minutes we've got Oath Keepers, a group for police, military, and others are saying we're going to uphold the Constitutional Bill of Rights.

00:25:21.000 Very well written, very well done site because it's a constitutional lawyer that started it, but a lot of police and military have joined and pledged their oath to protect and defend the Constitutional Bill of Rights.

00:25:29.000 We've got a gentleman on the line right now, state police officer, we'll just call him David, that's not his name.

00:25:35.000 His name has been changed to protect the innocent, those defending the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

00:25:40.000 We're talking about the MIAC strategic report.

00:25:42.000 Here's the report he sent me.

00:25:43.000 Got it up on screen right here for you as well.

00:25:46.000 The story is now huge.

00:25:49.000 I mean, they admit this is sent out to state police.

00:25:49.000 Profiling!

00:25:51.000 It was sent to your state police.

00:25:56.000 This is going all over the country, that's confirmed.

00:25:58.000 We're not going to get into that though, because that can get into where you're at.

00:26:04.000 And, I mean, what has this meant to give patrol officers this?

00:26:07.000 Because they talk about when they pull you over, you know, if you see these bumper stickers, if you see this, if you see that, they start the whole page out with cop killing, I guess to prejudice the police, but it doesn't look like it's working too well.

00:26:18.000 So is this profiling and demonizing anybody that disagrees with the government?

00:26:24.000 Actually, I believe it is.

00:26:27.000 I believe that is the intent.

00:26:29.000 But I don't think it's going to work.

00:26:34.000 Officers in my agency can see through this ruse, and they understand that this document is meant to enslave the American people, and I don't think it's going to work.

00:26:45.000 I think it misses the mark.

00:26:47.000 It's so obvious.

00:26:48.000 It's so obvious to lean one way to be a net that encompasses everybody.

00:26:55.000 Like I said, even though I don't have that right-wing, left-wing, false paradigm, but even the right-wingers in my Well, they're certainly losing now.

00:27:06.000 Congressman Ron Paul, former Congressman Bob Barr, and presidential candidates are saying they're going to sue if they don't retract this.

00:27:12.000 to profile i think they lost well they're certainly losing now congressman ron paul former congressman bob bar and uh...

00:27:22.000 presidential candidates lab arm are saying they're going to sue if they don't retract this right and you know what i think what they're trying to do to try to train the young officers I mean, the really young, impressionable officers.

00:27:41.000 But they don't understand, these young officers that are coming into these departments, a lot of them are really smart and sharp.

00:27:47.000 They're coming in with four-year degrees.

00:27:50.000 I know a couple of attorneys that have just started the department, and they can see through this, Alex.

00:27:57.000 I think these people are running scared now.

00:27:59.000 I think you and your office And people like you have done such a great job informing the American public that people are seeing through these people.

00:28:09.000 The American citizens are seeing through these people.

00:28:12.000 What type of things were the state police officers in your office saying when they read this?

00:28:19.000 They were in disbelief.

00:28:21.000 They said, hey, I like guns just like any other American likes guns and I'm not letting nobody take my gun.

00:28:32.000 And the ammunitions and, you know, like the 223 round and the 308 that Obama wants to get rid of, they say, no, it's not going to happen. 0.90

00:28:41.000 They say, when they come to get, well, I mean, the statements are getting really bad.

00:28:45.000 They said, they're going to have a hard time getting my weapon from me.

00:28:49.000 And I say the same thing.

00:28:50.000 You're not getting my weapon unless you pry it out of my cold, dead hand.

00:28:55.000 I'm not giving it up.

00:28:59.000 I mean, would you say 90% of the police, the other state police officers you work with are like this?

00:29:04.000 Or 50%?

00:29:04.000 And you're saying if the statements are getting like, sounds like you're saying bordering on, we're going to resist this.

00:29:14.000 I would say 80 to 90% of the officers that I spoke to, and that's at like 80 officers, 90 officers, are saying, no, this is not going to work.

00:29:30.000 Stay there.

00:29:30.000 Let's recap that when we come back and get into anything else you want to cover and your take on this story getting so big.

00:29:35.000 It should get big.

00:29:36.000 This is outrageous and it's public now because your courage and other state police officers' courage.

00:29:41.000 Because this outraged police so bad, we got two copies of this from two different states, ladies and gentlemen.

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00:32:55.000 Foreign offshore banks are engaged in a corporate takeover of the United States, just like they've done to hundreds of third world countries.

00:33:06.000 That's all that's happening.

00:33:07.000 They're announcing, I've got Reuters, world taxes on everything you do to private banks.

00:33:13.000 It's all over the news, there's a new world order.

00:33:15.000 So what happens when the state police and police open up these federally written reports saying none of this exists, you're a violent cop-killer if you talk about it?

00:33:25.000 If people have these bumper stickers, look out, and we have out of Las Vegas the footage of them pulling somebody over, what's that Ron Paul sticker on your car?

00:33:32.000 I guess that's the 10% the officer's talking about that I guess buy this.

00:33:35.000 We've got Abby Newman being pulled over at a checkpoint, and she's got a pocket Constitution, and they grab it and say, is this legal? 0.69

00:33:41.000 And on the squad car video, they have a discussion about if she's allowed to have it, when all it is is what this country's founded on, what they swear an oath to.

00:33:49.000 Officer, specifically, you know, the New World Order is becoming big news now.

00:33:54.000 I would imagine the officers, you say, are getting upset.

00:33:57.000 I mean, are they going, wait a minute, they're admitting there's a New World Order.

00:34:00.000 Why are they then saying you're a cop killer, basically, if you talk about a New World Order?

00:34:06.000 I don't know exactly why I think that they're reaching.

00:34:10.000 I think they're in desperation right now.

00:34:13.000 They understand that they're being exposed.

00:34:16.000 It's like the Obama deception.

00:34:18.000 I watched it the other day, and I can't even make enough copies.

00:34:21.000 I have officers coming up to me and saying, hey John, David, I understand that you have this film about Obama.

00:34:31.000 I can't even keep copies.

00:34:33.000 I've got to make copies constantly of the Obama deception.

00:34:36.000 And by the way, I wish you guys sent out my DVDs so I could make better copies.

00:34:42.000 We have!

00:34:42.000 They're shipping right now, but imagine we had thousands of orders, we've got four people back there since Monday, just packaging, packaging, so it's on the way.

00:34:50.000 And another thing, Alex, since I've been listening to you, probably since the end of 2005, And luckily I have, because you have saved me in literally hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:35:04.000 You got me out of the stock market for your guests.

00:35:08.000 I've sold my own before the market crashed.

00:35:11.000 And all of these things, the other officers realize, and I tell them, you know, Alex Jones has saved me money.

00:35:19.000 And so that pushes them to you.

00:35:21.000 And now the Obama deception, and now this, my document is further pushing people towards Your show, your radio show, because they know that you're giving out the truth.

00:35:35.000 Why do you think people were in denial, even state reps and people that know I tell the truth, when they first saw it, they couldn't believe it, then they called the state police and they said, yeah, that's our document, we're proud of it.

00:35:47.000 Well, it was so over the top, you know.

00:35:50.000 It's like there's a quickening.

00:35:52.000 developing right now you probably can feel it I can feel it no yeah they know it's tipping over right now and we're getting the right amount of people waking up where it's gonna have a deluge effect on on this country America's gonna wake up and and grow well what happens you know with tipping points in history is it can tip in the evil or tip in the good

00:36:18.000 And because we've done the groundwork and warned people, and because we were right about what was going to happen and what was going to develop, and people have seen that in hindsight with my 22 films and the work we've done, but countless others out there fighting, that we have a fighting chance in this.

00:36:31.000 But people need to know, the enemy will stage terror attacks.

00:36:34.000 The enemy will release bio-plagues. 0.51

00:36:36.000 I mean, these people are hardcore killers.

00:36:38.000 They funded Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Lenin. 0.59

00:36:41.000 Pol Pot, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Obama's chief advisor, brags in two books he wrote about how they did it. 0.99

00:36:47.000 I mean, these people are sick!

00:36:49.000 And, so just because people are waking up, I don't want people to think we're out of this.

00:36:52.000 This is deep, this is serious, and the new world order is going to hurt everybody out there.

00:36:57.000 You know, I've made mistakes in the past.

00:36:59.000 I had a primitive level.

00:37:02.000 I get threatened.

00:37:07.000 by the police that have been brainwashed and been militarized, and then I lash out instead of, historically we need to reach out to police and military, and they are waking up now.

00:37:16.000 Look, Ron Paul got more contributions from the military than anybody else.

00:37:19.000 And that's how we're going to defeat this.

00:37:21.000 As Jack McClam says, we've got to have the police on our side.

00:37:24.000 Because the truth is we're all on the same side, even if we decide to fight with each other.

00:37:28.000 When we fight with each other, the New World Order wins. 1.00

00:37:30.000 Your comments on that, officer?

00:37:31.000 I agree with you.

00:37:36.000 I know what side I'm on, and a lot of the police officers I talk to, they know what side they're on.

00:37:43.000 And I tell them that, you know, you're gonna have a choice to make one day.

00:37:47.000 You're gonna be asked to do some horrible things, and you have to think about it right now.

00:37:51.000 Are you going to take people's guns away from them?

00:37:54.000 Are you going to force people into cattle cars?

00:37:57.000 Remember what Hitler did. 0.98

00:37:59.000 I impressed upon at least the young officers, the old officers, they understand what's going on, where this country is going, and they understand they have to wake up and they have to be on the side of America.

00:38:11.000 And we took an oath, and I remind these people that this oath is for our country.

00:38:19.000 We have to defend this Constitution.

00:38:22.000 This is the best Constitution in the world, and we have to keep it in force.

00:38:28.000 Yeah, basically this report takes the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, everything good and wholesome, and then just spray paints white supremacist cop killer all over it in an attempt to demonize the very heart of this country. 0.90

00:38:41.000 It's asinine, it's a fraud, and I am just buoyed by the fact that so many police and military are waking up, not from my information, but from the over-the-top nature of the criminal fed government's propaganda.

00:38:58.000 Right, and coupled with what Obama's doing right now, he's doing what you predicted he would do. 0.95

00:39:03.000 I mean, with his gun control, he's doing exactly what you're saying.

00:39:08.000 He's trying to stop us from having 2-2-3 rounds, from having 3-0-8 rounds, and this is nuts.

00:39:14.000 It's not going to work.

00:39:17.000 Well, I mean, I'd like to brag and say I'm real smart, but I'm really not.

00:39:20.000 I just go off what the white papers in government and corporations say they're going to do, versus what they publicly say on the news.

00:39:27.000 I mean, my job's like reading a TV guide.

00:39:30.000 I mean, the UN, on July 7th, 2001, at the UNITER meeting in New York with thousands in attendance, said, we're going to take every civilian-owned firearm, period, single-shot, black powder, we're going to take all of it.

00:39:45.000 So, you know, that's their goal.

00:39:48.000 And so we're just laying it out.

00:39:49.000 I mean, now the veterans found out that Obama was planning to make them get their own insurance.

00:39:54.000 I mean, the people are finding out that it's a bunch of made-off criminals.

00:39:59.000 The state police in your organization, I mean, are they aware of the banker takeover and how that's a scam as well?

00:40:06.000 Well, not quite.

00:40:07.000 That's a little too esoteric for them.

00:40:09.000 I tried to explain to some of them.

00:40:11.000 Some of them get it some way.

00:40:14.000 Portions of it, but they don't get it totally.

00:40:20.000 That's a little bit of a difficult role to hold.

00:40:27.000 But you're saying on the Second Amendment issue, and because of the document, cop killer, white supremacist, we've got to restrict guns, you know, they mix that in, they saw through that?

00:40:36.000 Right, they saw clearly through that.

00:40:37.000 Because, like I said, a lot of them, almost majority of them, you know, They have guns, they have rifles, they go to ranges, they shoot, and I guess some of them are called gun nuts, you know, and they're not going to get their guns, they're not.

00:40:58.000 But they are trying to hire a bunch of social worker, mainline liberal types who are anti-gun-to-be-police, but once they get into the culture, it is a pro-Second Amendment, pro-self-defense culture.

00:41:08.000 I mean, the 10% that are brainwashed, what are they like?

00:41:14.000 A few of them are Obama supporters, and a couple of them I know mainly because they're wives, and they get harassed for it. 0.99

00:41:28.000 It's kind of hard to have a cookie cutter for them.

00:41:31.000 It runs the gamut.

00:41:33.000 They could be left and right.

00:41:39.000 Well, but I mean, you're saying that ten percent, though, are just buying this. 0.85

00:41:43.000 I mean, they get a thing saying basically Ron Paul supporters are terrorists, libertarians are terrorists, and they just, they buy that. 0.76

00:41:51.000 They buy it. 0.86

00:41:51.000 About ten percent. 0.86

00:41:52.000 But they get harassed.

00:41:54.000 You know?

00:41:55.000 Wake up, you know?

00:41:58.000 You know, the other officers, they harass them about it.

00:42:01.000 Come on, you guys gotta wake up.

00:42:02.000 This one article, and actually it sits right on my briefing table.

00:42:08.000 In the briefing room, and so people view it every day and make fun of it.

00:42:14.000 This was, I think, the coup de grace for the New World Order. 0.88

00:42:20.000 At least in this little battle.

00:42:23.000 This is waking a lot of people up as to what's really going on in this country.

00:42:30.000 Well, I think the police I talk to are starting to realize, too, that it's not going to be a fun job trying to disarm the American people, because 10% of gun owners are a lot of them are veterans.

00:42:41.000 They're not happy about life, the economy.

00:42:43.000 If 10% of 140 million gun owners fight back, we're talking about 10 million, 14 million people.

00:42:50.000 I mean, do the police ever talk about what it would be like to try to go out and confiscate guns?

00:42:56.000 No.

00:42:58.000 Not specifically.

00:43:01.000 I don't think it's going to come.

00:43:03.000 They don't think it's going to come to that.

00:43:05.000 But I try to put that little thought in their head, so they at least think about it.

00:43:09.000 So when that decision does arrive, at least they have thought about it.

00:43:16.000 Well, they'll keep doing it incrementally, but I just hope that officers are supposed to judge the law as well as the facts, have wide discretion, because I've run over the law. 0.65

00:43:29.000 I know most police are pro-Second Amendment because they understand guns, they're not stupid.

00:43:32.000 But then you've got that other type, where you can be in the countryside now in East Texas, walking across the road to your land to go bird hunting, a cop will pull up and say, what's that shotgun for?

00:43:40.000 So, there's certainly that percentage, that 10%.

00:43:43.000 Well, I mean, I'm sure you've heard about Ron Paul supporters that have been harassed, and now we know why.

00:43:48.000 Well, why do you have a Ron Paul sticker?

00:43:50.000 Well, why are you asking?

00:43:54.000 Yes, I have heard about Ron Paul supporters, since I am one, being harassed.

00:43:58.000 And so, before, like you said, I have one of these, Jason Burma said, keep a tape recorder with you.

00:44:06.000 And I do keep a tape recorder in my car.

00:44:07.000 And yeah, and I do carry a badge and everything, but I still keep a tape recorder because, hey, this conversation goes downhill.

00:44:16.000 I want verifiable proof that I would stop illegally for a Ron Paul sign on the back of my car.

00:44:24.000 Well, officer, this has been an amazing discussion.

00:44:26.000 We salute your courage and what you've done, and I want to get you back in the next few weeks for a longer interview here on the show.

00:44:33.000 Thank you so much for spending time with us.

00:44:36.000 You're welcome, and thank you for all the hard work.

00:44:38.000 God bless you.

00:44:39.000 All right, there he goes, state police officer and unnamed state David.

00:44:43.000 We're going to come back and go to Stuart Rhodes with Oath Keepers.

00:44:45.000 Thank you so much for joining us, sir.

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00:46:55.000 We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

00:47:02.000 The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.

00:47:09.000 Well, Obama's already fudging.

00:47:11.000 He's fudged since day one in this election.

00:47:13.000 If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.

00:47:25.000 It's not about left or right.

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00:48:55.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:48:58.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

00:49:02.000 I went down, down, down, and the flames went higher.

00:49:07.000 Kurt Nemo's got the story up.

00:49:08.000 Baldwin, Paul, and Barr sent a letter in opposition to MIAC report to Missouri officials.

00:49:14.000 Good job Kurt Nemo on that.

00:49:15.000 We'll have a letter up there soon.

00:49:17.000 But we need to add in here that they're considering suing.

00:49:21.000 That needs to be in the headline.

00:49:22.000 You know, they're considering litigation if lies not retracted or demonization not retracted.

00:49:29.000 Something like, Paul, you know, Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Baldwin, write letter to Mayak, report demonizing, you know, their supporters.

00:49:40.000 And it needs to be in the first line.

00:49:43.000 I'm doing editing even here on the air, ladies and gentlemen.

00:49:45.000 It's insane.

00:49:46.000 We're joined for the rest of the hour, and I apologize for getting him on light, but we decided to have a state police officer on.

00:49:49.000 But it's a perfect segue into this.

00:49:51.000 Stuart Rhodes created a great website.

00:49:54.000 He's a constitutional lawyer.

00:49:55.000 But masses of military and police have been saying they pledge to be oath keepers and not violate the Bill of Rights Constitution and to follow their oath.

00:50:04.000 Uh, and it's, it's, when I read it, I said, this person has a deep knowledge of what's going on, because this is how I would have written it, probably better than I would have written it.

00:50:11.000 So, uh, Stuart Rhodes, thanks for coming on, sir.

00:50:14.000 Oh, you're welcome, and you're absolutely right.

00:50:15.000 That was a fantastic segue.

00:50:17.000 That officer is an oath keeper.

00:50:20.000 And that's exactly what we are here to do, is to bring more men like that out.

00:50:26.000 And most of the members of our organization don't use their real names, or we don't even want to know who they are.

00:50:33.000 Because just like that gentleman there just did, we want them to be able to continue in their job and continue doing the good work for the American people.

00:50:40.000 But because the federal government is so out of control and criminal, I mean, that's a sad testament that these officers don't even really have their own First Amendment to say they don't appreciate the country being destroyed.

00:50:50.000 That's right, and standing up and saying you might actually obey the Constitution, because yes you can.

00:50:56.000 So that's the world we live in right now.

00:50:58.000 But you've probably been to our site.

00:51:00.000 You can see the float of testimonials we have in from veterans.

00:51:03.000 Most of the veterans are not afraid to put their name on it because they're no longer within reach of being punished for it.

00:51:10.000 And they're standing up and saying, no, we're not going to do this.

00:51:12.000 And the veterans are very important because the veterans are there to teach the young bucks how to behave, to show them what they're supposed to be doing.

00:51:21.000 And so that's our mission, is to remind them of their oath.

00:51:24.000 to teach them what it was they swore an oath to defend, and then to steal their resolve to do what's right.

00:51:29.000 And that officer is correct.

00:51:31.000 You've got to do that in advance.

00:51:33.000 You've got to do it ahead of time so that when you draw your own lines in the sand and prepare yourself mentally to do what's right, and then you'll do it.

00:51:40.000 Absolutely.

00:51:41.000 Just amazing testimonials on the sidewalk.

00:51:45.000 What gave you the idea to create this and how many people have come on the site and pledged in just a few weeks it's been up that they're going to stand by the Constitution and Bill of Rights?

00:51:55.000 Well, I was working for Congressman Paul's campaign here in Nevada.

00:51:59.000 I used to work in his D.C.

00:52:00.000 office, but I was so focused on the campaign.

00:52:02.000 But about a year and a half ago, I had the idea that, you know, what do we do next?

00:52:06.000 And if this campaign's not successful, what's our next move?

00:52:09.000 And my thought was, well, let's have our focus of effort be on the men with the guns.

00:52:16.000 If you're going to have an awakening of one million people, if you're going to have a chance to awaken one million people, to be constitutionalist, would you want to focus on the military?

00:52:25.000 And those are the men who are supposed to be our guardians.

00:52:29.000 Exactly.

00:52:31.000 They're the guardians of the republic.

00:52:34.000 That's what they are.

00:52:35.000 Yes, if tyranny is going to come, it's going to come in the form of a uniform.

00:52:39.000 The Ron Perl Revolution has probably woken up.

00:52:41.000 Even mainstream media says probably 20-30 million Americans identify now.

00:52:45.000 Imagine if we focused on the police and military.

00:52:48.000 Game over for the New World Order.

00:52:49.000 Go ahead.

00:52:50.000 Exactly.

00:52:50.000 Precisely.

00:52:51.000 It's like maneuver warfare theory.

00:52:53.000 You go to the rear of the enemy, you go to the heart of their strength.

00:52:56.000 It's kind of like in the Lord of the Rings, the Ring of Power.

00:52:59.000 They think the Ring of Power is that these guys are going to do whatever they say.

00:53:03.000 They think the oath is their ring of power.

00:53:04.000 But it's not true.

00:53:05.000 The oath is to the Constitution, and even more fundamentally, it's to the people.

00:53:09.000 And so, we're gonna take that, right to Mount Doom, and toss it right, you know, right up their chute.

00:53:14.000 Oh man, that analogy is just pure gold.

00:53:17.000 You are something special.

00:53:20.000 Let me tell you something.

00:53:21.000 I write for SWAT Magazine and here's what actually got me thinking about this.

00:53:24.000 About a year and a half ago, I wrote a column and in response to that column, we got a letter from a U.S.

00:53:30.000 J.R.

00:53:31.000 Ewell, Colonel, U.S.

00:53:33.000 Army, retired.

00:53:34.000 And he said, the Constitution and our Bill of Rights are gravely endangered today.

00:53:37.000 And this community of military and veterans and law enforcement is where they will be saved.

00:53:43.000 They ought to be saved at all.

00:53:45.000 And he had the same insight you did.

00:53:46.000 Look, they can't do it without those guys.

00:53:49.000 Game over.

00:53:49.000 It'd be like the end of the movie V for Vendetta.

00:53:52.000 The military stands down and there's nothing between the people and the vultures.

00:53:57.000 Nothing.

00:53:58.000 And that's what our goal is.

00:54:00.000 Well, I mean, police are going to lose their houses.

00:54:01.000 They already are.

00:54:02.000 They're going to lose their future in this new world order.

00:54:05.000 They're going to lose their Second Amendment.

00:54:07.000 Yeah, and their children will be indentured servants for the rest of their lives.

00:54:11.000 That's right.

00:54:13.000 Yeah, the globalists have overplayed their hand.

00:54:14.000 I keep telling listeners, the phony churches on government payroll, I told you this a decade ago, now it's declassified, are telling you to stand down.

00:54:24.000 So, there's several rings of power.

00:54:26.000 One is the police and the enforcers.

00:54:28.000 The others is the churches.

00:54:29.000 Gotta take those back.

00:54:31.000 Stay there, sir.

00:54:31.000 We're gonna tell folks how they can visit the Oath Keepers website when we come back.

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00:55:54.000 We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to secure.

00:56:01.000 The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.

00:56:07.000 Well, Obama's already fudging.

00:56:09.000 He's fudged since day one in this election.

00:56:12.000 If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.

00:56:25.000 It's not about left or right.

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00:57:47.000 They railed against the crown.

00:57:58.000 Another ragtag band.

00:58:00.000 Declaring.

00:58:04.000 Independence.

00:58:07.000 Shh.

00:58:08.000 They laid their bodies down in a bloody war.

00:58:15.000 For liberty, for their descendants.

00:58:19.000 Look in the mirror, that's you, that's me.

00:58:22.000 Thanks to the renegades, we're free today.

00:58:26.000 Thanks to the renegades, we're free today.

00:58:32.000 Thank God for the renegades!

00:58:35.000 And the lives they lead, far ahead of their time.

00:58:44.000 Without the Renegades, Lord knows where we'd be.

00:58:52.000 When it comes to heroes, Renegades are mine.

00:58:56.000 And going back to the Mordor analogy, you have the tower, the mountain of power, the all-seeing eye, with its armies moving across the world, but right here, And it's command base right here in Empire US.

00:59:10.000 It is distracted looking, looking everywhere for the ring.

00:59:14.000 That's what this MIAC report is, is they're counting on the police and military being Uruk-hai or orcs or black ships from the east.

00:59:23.000 They're planning on them going along with this evil and being seduced by the dark side, by being played and manipulated and maneuvered into war with the American people as they destroy their own futures, as they burn their own beds, their own nest.

00:59:40.000 It's going to fail.

00:59:43.000 It is going to fail.

00:59:43.000 You have to first believe that and know that and reach out to the police and military now so they understand and educate them.

00:59:50.000 Waking up one police officer or one active duty military person is like waking up a thousand regular Americans.

00:59:56.000 Now, we have to also understand that the key here is, is there's people like Stuart Rhodes over there with Oath-Keepers.blogspot.com Oath-Keepers.blogspot.com or just Google his name, Stuart Rhodes Oath Keepers and it'll come up for you.

01:00:12.000 We've got it up on screen right now at PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:00:16.000 The fact that there is Ron Paul and Alex Jones and Stuart Rhodes and Jesse Ventura and thousands of other prominent people fighting, not just millions waking up and fighting, they killed me and only makes my information grow that much faster.

01:00:29.000 If I was the only guy doing this though, I'd be dead.

01:00:31.000 If Stuart was the only guy doing this, they'd go set him up or something.

01:00:34.000 But there's too many of us now.

01:00:35.000 They can't target and intimidate.

01:00:37.000 They had the Ron Paul girl in here last night. 0.99

01:00:39.000 I didn't know that.

01:00:39.000 She was on my show last time.

01:00:40.000 They were waiting for her outside.

01:00:44.000 You know, Amy Allen, with crowbars, stealing nothing, just putting her in the hospital, you know, breaking bones. 0.98

01:00:50.000 That is the type of intimidation.

01:00:51.000 I've been physically attacked. 0.99

01:00:52.000 And they've told me, shut up or you're dead next time.

01:00:54.000 But I fought back and fought them off, and they didn't like getting hurt real bad. 0.82

01:00:57.000 I got hurt bad too, but they were, you know, they were surprised that I wasn't a sheep, and I actually went absolutely ape.

01:01:03.000 Because I'm not a slave, folks.

01:01:04.000 You attack me, I attack right back.

01:01:06.000 Quite frankly, the time enjoyed it.

01:01:08.000 You know, I mean, that's just how I am.

01:01:10.000 That's living there, you know.

01:01:12.000 You don't really live until four people are pounding on you.

01:01:14.000 But sad for her, she's a little girl.

01:01:15.000 They hurt her bad.

01:01:17.000 But you can't let that scare you.

01:01:18.000 You gotta say, oh, that means I'm hurting you.

01:01:19.000 That means I'm getting close to the crack of doom.

01:01:22.000 To dump this ring in.

01:01:24.000 You have to dare great, ladies and gentlemen, and you can succeed.

01:01:26.000 Okay, I'm going to shut up.

01:01:27.000 I made those points.

01:01:28.000 It's just that they're also trying to divide our movements, trying to demonize, trying to say, don't trust this leader, don't trust that leader.

01:01:33.000 That's the operatives.

01:01:34.000 That's what COINTELPRO does.

01:01:35.000 This person's a Mason.

01:01:37.000 That person's a Vatican assassin.

01:01:38.000 This person works for Israel.

01:01:40.000 It's the information that's key.

01:01:42.000 Bill of Rights, Constitution, Liberty, Second Amendment, National Sovereignty.

01:01:45.000 Cut the size of government.

01:01:46.000 Kick them out of the states.

01:01:49.000 You know it's free by its fruits.

01:01:50.000 So the other attack is to divide us.

01:01:55.000 Now, go ahead and comment on those points, Stuart Rhodes, and let's get into the Oath Keepers.

01:02:00.000 You're absolutely right, and that's why Oath Keepers, we've always stressed that this was first contemplated and first planned before the election.

01:02:10.000 We didn't care who got elected.

01:02:11.000 It didn't make a difference who was going to be president.

01:02:13.000 We saw the growth of executive power, and we're talking about active duty military and veterans.

01:02:18.000 And these gentlemen don't care who's president.

01:02:21.000 We're looking at the big picture, and we stay neutral on politics.

01:02:25.000 We stay neutral on the Iraq War.

01:02:27.000 In fact, I'll be speaking at a big event in June, a big pro-tropes rally in June.

01:02:33.000 I was invited by former Navy SEAL Captain Larry Bailey of Gathering of Eagles.

01:02:38.000 So a lot of the more hardcore conservative groups who might not have listened during Bush are starting to wake up and understand what the great danger is.

01:02:46.000 And so we're seeing an awakening.

01:02:48.000 Like the officer said, it's a quickening.

01:02:50.000 And it doesn't make a difference.

01:02:52.000 Forget about left and right.

01:02:53.000 Forget about that kind of stuff.

01:02:54.000 Like you said before, it's about liberty or tyranny.

01:02:57.000 That's the dividing line.

01:02:59.000 And so we go back to the basics.

01:03:01.000 We go back to the Declaration of Independence.

01:03:03.000 We go back to the Bill of Rights.

01:03:04.000 We go back to the Constitution.

01:03:06.000 Those are our common bond.

01:03:10.000 Absolutely.

01:03:11.000 And that's all we care about.

01:03:13.000 And you swore an oath to defend the Constitution, and you swore an oath more fundamentally to defend the people of this country.

01:03:19.000 And that's all we care about.

01:03:20.000 That's what really matters.

01:03:22.000 And their interest is with the American people, too.

01:03:26.000 Of course.

01:03:26.000 Well, you know what?

01:03:27.000 They don't belong to the Mordor and the Potomac.

01:03:28.000 They belong to us.

01:03:29.000 They're our fathers.

01:03:30.000 They're our sons.

01:03:31.000 They're our sisters.

01:03:33.000 They're our uncles.

01:03:34.000 They are us.

01:03:35.000 They don't belong to them.

01:03:37.000 They belong to us.

01:03:38.000 That's right.

01:03:39.000 That's right.

01:03:40.000 They don't belong to Mordor, do they?

01:03:42.000 No, they don't.

01:03:43.000 Yeah.

01:03:44.000 We're taking them back.

01:03:45.000 They belong to Midas Tarith!

01:03:47.000 That's why they have to demonize people. 0.99

01:03:52.000 That's why you saw HR 1955 with a bipartisan assault on the American people.

01:03:56.000 First thing you do is you label someone the enemy, you make them the other, you dehumanize them, and then you turn the forces against them.

01:04:06.000 And so, but we're fighting back, and I think your show is important in that.

01:04:10.000 You know what I think woke the military and police up the biggest?

01:04:14.000 And we've confirmed this with state police and military everywhere, and it's even been in the news.

01:04:18.000 But we knew about it before it was, I mean, the point is before it was in the news, they're telling them that, you know, mainline Americans are about to start bombing police stations.

01:04:25.000 We've got to do IED training.

01:04:26.000 The Army's going to be on the streets of America.

01:04:28.000 There'll be a new world order, but it's good, and those that are against it are bad.

01:04:32.000 They're now seeing the whole apparatus that was supposedly to fight Al-Qaeda has now been swung around like a cannon and aimed at the American people, and the police and military are going, whoa!

01:04:43.000 That's right.

01:04:44.000 In fact, we just now put up on our site an article on how enemy combatant status was first proposed during the Clinton administration.

01:04:53.000 Most folks don't realize that, but that idea of using tribunals for even American citizens was first proposed during the Clinton years.

01:05:01.000 To be used against McVeigh and the militias.

01:05:03.000 And what Clinton didn't do, Bush unfortunately put into full effect, and now Obama's got it, and it's very likely he'll turn around and apply it domestically.

01:05:12.000 You know, to average gun owners.

01:05:14.000 That's the big, that's what we think might be the next spark.

01:05:16.000 You know, going back to the Mordor analogy, it's just too good.

01:05:19.000 Remember when the keeper of the fortress goes insane and says, no, we're all dead, and starts pouring oil on himself, saying, we can't beat them, there's nothing we can do, and sets himself on fire?

01:05:30.000 That's the spirit.

01:05:32.000 More than just waking up police and military, it's...

01:05:35.000 The change is an inside job.

01:05:37.000 It's all of us have to decide.

01:05:39.000 Victory is ours.

01:05:41.000 And it's not just a spirit or an idea.

01:05:43.000 It's the truth.

01:05:44.000 We have incredible power.

01:05:46.000 But we have to prepare ourselves, steel ourselves, as you said, like steel, to understand this work and just commit.

01:05:53.000 And when you commit and aren't worried that they demonize you, set you up, kill you, whatever they're going to do, you just commit.

01:05:58.000 It's like a million pound weight goes off of you and you're truly alive.

01:06:02.000 And you're now in communion with the Founding Fathers and every other rebel against tyranny in history.

01:06:08.000 That's right.

01:06:08.000 We're all going to die anyway.

01:06:09.000 No one gets out of here alive.

01:06:11.000 So what counts is whether you leave your children free.

01:06:13.000 That's all that matters.

01:06:14.000 That's all that matters.

01:06:16.000 That's really it.

01:06:17.000 And to take back your analogy there, they want you to think it's hopeless.

01:06:22.000 It's like you're staring into the... You're seeing only their propaganda.

01:06:26.000 If all you do is Is look at what they want you to see, you'll think it's hopeless.

01:06:31.000 That's right.

01:06:31.000 He's staring into the crystal and it's only what, it's a TV set.

01:06:35.000 It's only what Mordor wants him to see.

01:06:37.000 That's exactly right.

01:06:38.000 Like Claire Wolf said, break your TV.

01:06:41.000 Break that stuff and get on the web and communicate with your fellow man.

01:06:45.000 And here's the thing about Oath Keepers, it's positive.

01:06:47.000 That's why people respond to it so much.

01:06:49.000 It's positive.

01:06:50.000 It's not just more negativity.

01:06:52.000 They're starting to see the other side of the look.

01:06:55.000 Like you said, we have the strength.

01:06:58.000 And we have the power.

01:06:59.000 And you can't just assume the military is your enemy.

01:07:01.000 You can't just assume police are your enemy.

01:07:04.000 They want you to think that.

01:07:06.000 I have fallen into that.

01:07:07.000 I mean, over the years, I've also got to reach out to them when I see the outrage.

01:07:11.000 I started wondering about five years ago, why does the media show the worst police brutality over and over again?

01:07:16.000 Why do they focus on it so much?

01:07:17.000 And then I realized they want to split us apart, which puts the police more in their gang mentality and the people more in their mentality.

01:07:24.000 And that's why they're advertising.

01:07:25.000 And I'm actually helping them When I make a big deal out of it.

01:07:30.000 Well, you know, you've got to have the truth.

01:07:32.000 Like Patrick Henry said, you've got to see the truth.

01:07:33.000 No, no, no, exactly.

01:07:35.000 We put the truth out, but we have to also add, understand they're encouraging officers to act like this, and understand they're not all like this, and if we fall in to just hating them and being threatened by them, that's what they want.

01:07:47.000 That's right.

01:07:48.000 And that's one of the values you have in a man like you just had on, where he tells you, look, not all officers are like this.

01:07:53.000 And you'd be surprised.

01:07:55.000 We have a testimonial up on our site by a police officer.

01:07:58.000 I'm going to find it here while we're talking and I'll read it to you.

01:08:00.000 But he just basically says, look, the majority of the guys in my force agree we won't do these things.

01:08:06.000 And I'm hearing that from Marines, too.

01:08:08.000 I got a Marine sergeant the other day I talked to on the phone.

01:08:11.000 He's like, I talk to my guys about this stuff all the time, and I make sure they know their oath.

01:08:15.000 A lot of the young guys, when they first get to his unit, they think that they're opposed to the President.

01:08:19.000 And we have to set them straight.

01:08:20.000 You know, but now more and more we're talking about this stuff.

01:08:23.000 And that was going on, you know, before we founded Oath Keepers.

01:08:26.000 It was going on already.

01:08:27.000 So we're just kind of tapping into what's already happening.

01:08:29.000 I'm looking for that right now.

01:08:31.000 Here we go.

01:08:32.000 This officer says he's a Texas police officer, because after serving in the Navy from 90 to 93 on board the USS Blue Ridge, I became a police officer and I'm still on the force.

01:08:42.000 Not only will I refuse any unlawful order that violates the Constitution, I will fight the tyrants that give the orders.

01:08:48.000 Rest assured that me and my brothers in law enforcement talk about this subject on a regular basis.

01:08:53.000 About 80% feel the same way I do.

01:08:56.000 I ask the rookies that when it comes down to nut-cutting, whose side will you be on?

01:09:01.000 Founding fathers who made this country so great, or the tyrants that are in power now.

01:09:05.000 I took the oath twice, and will uphold it two-fold.

01:09:08.000 God bless America, and he signed his name, Colin Connerly.

01:09:12.000 Some people are willing to put their names on it, other folks understandably are not.

01:09:16.000 But that's the sentiment we're getting.

01:09:18.000 We're getting flooded emails like that, saying, yeah, we're with you, you know?

01:09:26.000 Well, I would add to this that, you know, getting into the spiritual angle of this, standing up for liberty and goodness, you know, as Martin Luther King said, the universe bends towards truth, towards justice, that it's providence.

01:09:40.000 And if you don't understand that, folks, when you decide to fight evil and really get your head straight, and you really are fighting evil, not being manipulated into fighting some red herring the establishment gives you, they're very good at that, it's like an electrical connection.

01:09:52.000 It's spiritual.

01:09:53.000 And when I said that earlier, you literally then connect in to the founding fathers and everybody else that stood up for goodness.

01:09:59.000 You literally connect in to the disciples who were fighting the corruption of Rome.

01:10:04.000 You literally, it's like a barrier, a dam is removed when you start standing up for freedom.

01:10:10.000 Because that's all that matters in the world.

01:10:13.000 There's always a struggle between good and evil.

01:10:14.000 There's always evil trying to take over.

01:10:16.000 There's always evil trying to dominate.

01:10:18.000 This is what life is all about is defending liberty and freedom and building things and making life better.

01:10:24.000 That's right.

01:10:26.000 The first thing you've got to do is not let fear control you.

01:10:30.000 You've got to look at the big picture and realize that's the value of the oath.

01:10:35.000 Everyone has taken that oath in the military.

01:10:39.000 They did so understandingly.

01:10:40.000 It could mean their life.

01:10:42.000 These men, they take it so seriously still.

01:10:45.000 I've gotten letters, I can't even read them, I'll start bawling, but letters from Vietnam veterans and Korean War veterans, and they still take that Osterius to this day.

01:10:55.000 And they understand that they have a line going all the way back to the men of April 19, 1775, even before that.

01:11:06.000 They understand that the line of men who have fought and bled and died for freedom, And they understand that all those men gave him a sacred trust.

01:11:16.000 And now it's their watch.

01:11:18.000 That's why our motto is, it's not on our watch.

01:11:21.000 Because now it's our turn to make sure that the light of liberty does not go out.

01:11:26.000 Because if America falls, the world will fall into an age of darkness.

01:11:32.000 And that's the truth.

01:11:33.000 And these guys, they know it.

01:11:35.000 They're waking up.

01:11:36.000 Look at North Korea. 0.69

01:11:37.000 Look at China. 0.88

01:11:38.000 Look at Mexico. 0.52

01:11:39.000 They're all falling into total corruption and mass murder and open sewage running down the streets. 0.51

01:11:44.000 That's what evil does.

01:11:47.000 Very few nations in history, and we haven't been perfect here in the U.S., but compared to others, it's been amazing.

01:11:53.000 Four percent of the world's population, half the world's wealth, until the bankers took over.

01:11:56.000 Now they're taking it from us.

01:11:58.000 And that was produced here.

01:11:59.000 And again, that's what a little bit of liberty.

01:12:01.000 We haven't been perfect, but it's a lot compared to other countries. 0.65

01:12:05.000 The jewel of liberty, as Thomas Jefferson said, must be guarded.

01:12:08.000 It is the engine of everything good.

01:12:10.000 That's it.

01:12:12.000 I mean, that's it.

01:12:13.000 Freedom is all that matters.

01:12:14.000 And as Franklin said, those who would give up freedom for perceived security will have neither.

01:12:19.000 And so you can't give up freedom.

01:12:21.000 It's the fundamental, like you just said, it's the engine of all that's good.

01:12:24.000 And so the secret is not to let fear control you.

01:12:29.000 And since 9-11, people have been so afraid, they've allowed all the infrastructure of the totalitarian state to be put in place.

01:12:37.000 And as you know.

01:12:38.000 And so now what we have to do is we have to stop it.

01:12:40.000 And you don't stop it in the courts, and apparently you don't stop it in Congress either.

01:12:44.000 They'll go ahead and do whatever they want anyway.

01:12:45.000 What you do is you stop it at the base level of the people just saying no.

01:12:50.000 Here's an example.

01:12:51.000 I was on 93.7 FM for an hourish day downtown during South by Southwest, and I walked by three police, and they were all fans of the show and wanted to shake my hand.

01:13:03.000 So, you know, that's an example.

01:13:05.000 Even after all of my, you know, ranting and raving, you know, they told me, hey, we don't like what's happening either.

01:13:11.000 And we don't like how the media just totally focuses on the bad cops.

01:13:16.000 And so I can see I was, I've also been fooled by that spell.

01:13:19.000 You know, as I get older, I learn more and more how this sophisticated mind control system works.

01:13:24.000 All of us, you know, are waking up together.

01:13:26.000 And I agree.

01:13:27.000 I mean, when I sit on there, I feel a quickening.

01:13:28.000 I see a quickening.

01:13:30.000 It's like I just, you know, jumped off a 300 foot cliff into cold icy water.

01:13:34.000 I mean, it's invigorating, it's bracing, it's like, whoa!

01:13:37.000 And then to realize that myself and others are at the very center of a crossroads that is the future destiny of humanity.

01:13:47.000 When people look back on this time, it's going to dwarf the importance of 1776, I believe.

01:13:52.000 It might well, it might well.

01:13:53.000 And that's the key, is to break the spell.

01:13:56.000 You know, they've been under a spell, and we've been under a spell, and it's time to break it.

01:14:00.000 Absolutely.

01:14:01.000 And so what we did is we issued a declaration of 10 orders we will not obey.

01:14:06.000 And that's what's kind of causing a lot of controversy and firestorm.

01:14:10.000 And when I go around the web and look at different forums that are discussing it, it's what's happening is exactly what we wanted to happen.

01:14:16.000 We wanted veterans and current serving military to have discussions about where their line is.

01:14:22.000 Each person has their own... I mean, every service member has an obligation.

01:14:27.000 Not just that they can refuse a legal order or an lawful order, they have an obligation to.

01:14:33.000 They have to.

01:14:34.000 And so they have to make a decision for themselves where that line is.

01:14:37.000 And so, as the author said a minute ago, you have to do it ahead of time.

01:14:41.000 So that's our declaration of 10 orders.

01:14:43.000 We carefully cracked these to tie into American history, because history is repeating itself.

01:14:49.000 Much of the causes of the revolution are happening again, and also the history of the 20th century, with the death camps and mass internment.

01:14:56.000 And what we see happening today.

01:14:58.000 It all flows together.

01:15:00.000 So do you want to go down to the ten orders?

01:15:02.000 Yeah, let's do that in the next segment, and if you can stay five minutes to the next hour, then our next guest is coming on.

01:15:07.000 I want to invite you back routinely.

01:15:08.000 I know you're a busy guy, but you need to talk to Ted Anderson, maybe at a Genesis radio show or something.

01:15:12.000 You're very, very eloquent, and when we come back, we'll go over the ten points, but what I like Is that, you know, that huge rumble revolution, at first people were like, oh, it went nowhere, and I said, no.

01:15:22.000 It's a delayed explosion, like in Force 10 Navarone, when they bomb the dam, and they're like, where is it?

01:15:26.000 And he just said, just, just sitting there smoking a pipe, just wait a moment.

01:15:30.000 Uh, you know, that's how, and then suddenly it starts breaking, boom!

01:15:33.000 And, and, and now we're seeing that, and people realize they can defeat the enemy in the Info War, and now they're just blasting, they're picking up arms in the revolution of the mind.

01:15:42.000 People are taking the red pills.

01:15:44.000 They're waking up, and I'm seeing people like you from the Ron Paul campaign and others disperse out and start your own operations.

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01:19:57.000 I'm sure you heard, sir, Stuart Rhodes with Oath Keepers, oath-keepers.blogspot.com, that the House has passed the forced conscription of the American people bill, and I happen to have the army code that the Pentagon has issued saying it will be forced military service.

01:20:16.000 I mean, the hour is late.

01:20:19.000 It is, but that's okay.

01:20:21.000 It's darkest before the dawn.

01:20:23.000 And so I think it's pretty clear that we're going to stand tall.

01:20:26.000 That's why we bumped up our program.

01:20:28.000 We were going to do a regular site, but we saw that things were happening.

01:20:32.000 In fact, I called Colonel Hapgood, also of the Iowa National Guard, and he lied to me like he lied to you.

01:20:39.000 They have a dedicated mouth facility 80 miles north of that town they're going to do exercise in, and he just flat lied to us.

01:20:45.000 And so that's one thing that got us hopping mad and decided to put it up on Blogspot first.

01:20:50.000 One thing I do want to say, I want to let folks know that I write for Swat Magazine, and I want to make it clear that that's a magazine that's, you know, most people think it's just for law enforcement.

01:20:59.000 It's not.

01:20:59.000 And the gentlemen who run that magazine are dedicated patriots, and they're going to give both keepers free ad space.

01:21:05.000 So I encourage folks to check out Swat Magazine, run by true patriots.

01:21:10.000 So that's my plug for them.

01:21:12.000 No, yeah, give out the website.

01:21:13.000 No, that's good.

01:21:14.000 We have to take the high ground here.

01:21:17.000 Yeah, you betcha.

01:21:17.000 That's right.

01:21:19.000 And their mission has always been, that's why they asked me to write that column.

01:21:21.000 They used to have Claire Wolfe write it.

01:21:23.000 You know who Claire Wolfe is, correct?

01:21:24.000 Yes.

01:21:25.000 Right.

01:21:26.000 She used to write the Enemy at the Gate column, and then she asked me to take it over when she got gunned and burned out.

01:21:30.000 But their mission is to make sure that there's the separation between law enforcement And the people is broken down.

01:21:36.000 They don't believe there should be that separation.

01:21:38.000 And so Rich Lucibel, the man that owns SWAT, has stood up and dedicated that entire column every month to the mission of defending the Bill of Rights.

01:21:47.000 Well, we knew this would come when the New World Order emerged and admitted everything we've been warning people about.

01:21:52.000 That's why I said, even if we get laughed at, tell people the documents, tell them the truth, because when they finally emerge, when they make their big move, which is now happening, Then people would have been warned and then they would wake up, but also as the police and military are being twisted in their mission now to carry out globalism, that would be the big wake-up call there.

01:22:10.000 I think the enemy trying to program them right now is waking police and military up faster than even the patriots.

01:22:18.000 And of course, Obama is acting like a complete fool with what he did with the veterans and forced them to pay for their own medical care. 0.95

01:22:18.000 Absolutely. 0.95

01:22:26.000 It's just a huge blunder.

01:22:27.000 It just shows the arrogance.

01:22:29.000 The hubris.

01:22:30.000 Oh yeah, and so the anger and outrage.

01:22:32.000 They're blind.

01:22:33.000 They can't see certain things.

01:22:35.000 They're almost autistic in some way. 0.91

01:22:37.000 Alright, we're about to break.

01:22:38.000 We only have like five.

01:22:39.000 Yeah, they're delusional.

01:22:41.000 We're about to break, but start with the ten points.

01:22:44.000 We betcha.

01:22:45.000 Well, the ten points are just what we think are the most likely hot points and tripwires, and what we think officers should be considering, and soldiers, as the lines in the sand they will not cross.

01:22:55.000 Number one is, we will not obey any order to disarm the American people.

01:23:01.000 And I was like, you know that was the cause of the first American Revolution, and that was the final spark.

01:23:06.000 Lexington and Concord continue, number two.

01:23:09.000 Number two, we will not obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people.

01:23:12.000 And there again, the risk of assistance.

01:23:13.000 Warrantless searches were one of the causes of the American Revolution.

01:23:17.000 And number three is we will not obey orders to detain American citizens as unlawful enemy combatants or to subject them to the military tribunal.

01:23:24.000 Stay there, we've got to come back in 70 seconds.

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01:24:43.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:24:49.000 He has spurred so many thoughts and my instincts.

01:25:00.000 You know, who our ancestors were, everything that I've added quite a bit today.

01:25:05.000 I want to have you back up in the next few weeks for a full hour to talk more about Oath Keepers and take your phone calls.

01:25:12.000 He's an amazing individual, Stuart Rhodes.

01:25:14.000 There's so many great people that, you know, are out there prominently fighting the globalists.

01:25:17.000 We just commend them.

01:25:18.000 Run through the other eight points in the five minutes we have left, sir.

01:25:22.000 You betcha.

01:25:23.000 The other ones are, we will not obey orders to impose martial law on a state or state emergency on a state.

01:25:32.000 Five is we will not obey orders to invade, subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

01:25:36.000 That's kind of a reflection on the initiatives that have come out recently where states are standing up and saying, we're going to interpose ourselves between the federal government and our own people.

01:25:45.000 And that was an issue back in the 1770s because they would remove governors or legislatures and put in puppets, but go ahead.

01:25:53.000 And number six is we will not obey any order to blockade American cities.

01:25:53.000 Exactly.

01:25:57.000 Well, that's turning them into giant concentration camps. 0.51

01:25:59.000 And that was first done in Boston at the time of the American Revolution.

01:26:02.000 Like you just said, Boston was put under military dictatorship with General Gage, and then when the fighting started, the people of Boston were told, if you turn in your guns, we'll give you a safe passage out of the city.

01:26:14.000 And they turned their guns in, and then they were told they could not leave.

01:26:17.000 And they were kept there, and then it was turned into a concentration camp.

01:26:20.000 Until the militia showed up and kicked the British out of Boston.

01:26:25.000 So number seven is we will not obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

01:26:32.000 And we fight the history, an unfortunate history, of the Japanese internment here at home, but also the history around the world of oppressive governments.

01:26:39.000 When they make war on their own people, they put them into camps.

01:26:41.000 In part, that's done to put women and children into camps so that the men who are fighting will turn themselves in on behalf of their children.

01:26:49.000 And the schools, public schools, admit they've been drilling to grab kids without asking on FEMA buses and then tell parents to report.

01:26:55.000 So tyranny does the same thing over and over again.

01:26:57.000 Continue.

01:26:58.000 That's right.

01:26:59.000 Number eight, we will not obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S.

01:27:03.000 soil against the American people to keep the peace or to maintain control.

01:27:07.000 And as you know, we've been hearing rumors of this for decades, but we're now hearing the same rumors once again.

01:27:14.000 No, no, no.

01:27:17.000 The agreements have been signed.

01:27:22.000 Toronto Star, Canadian-Mexican trips to be used, I-4 trips to be used.

01:27:26.000 Those are not rumors.

01:27:27.000 I have hundreds of mainstream articles if you'd like them.

01:27:29.000 No, no, no.

01:27:30.000 Go ahead.

01:27:34.000 Go ahead, go ahead.

01:27:35.000 No, no, it's just that... No, I mean, I've had Colonel Craig Roberts and others on who have had, like, their nephews at West Point and they, you know, they send in famous generals to tell them we're gonna use foreign troops, but it's a good thing.

01:27:46.000 So, no, that is going on.

01:27:47.000 That's not a rumor.

01:27:48.000 Oh, I know.

01:27:49.000 I just like to hit my bets with people.

01:27:51.000 Well, no, I mean, it's true they're planning it.

01:27:53.000 The rumor is they may bring them in.

01:27:55.000 I see what you're saying.

01:27:55.000 Go ahead.

01:27:56.000 Right.

01:27:56.000 Exactly.

01:27:57.000 We will not obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

01:28:02.000 That's number nine.

01:28:03.000 That's in the public executive orders.

01:28:05.000 They're planning that.

01:28:06.000 So that's public.

01:28:08.000 Yep.

01:28:08.000 We will not obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, peaceably assemble, and petition their government for redisagreement.

01:28:15.000 I mean, all these are basic.

01:28:16.000 They should be common sense.

01:28:18.000 No brainers, but unfortunately, as you know, you have to remind people of the basics sometimes.

01:28:24.000 We can't take it for granted that someone's going to be thinking about this stuff ahead of time.

01:28:28.000 Look at Katrina. 1.00

01:28:29.000 You know, we're hearing now that a lot of that was caught because those guard troops and those officers hadn't thought about it ahead of time.

01:28:36.000 They're kind of like caught flat-footed when they were told to go do these things.

01:28:40.000 And so we want them to think about it in advance.

01:28:42.000 And we don't think it's going to go down the same way again.

01:28:44.000 That's right.

01:28:44.000 Iowa was a gun confiscation drill, that's admitted.

01:28:47.000 And then they sent out 22 MPs and a colonel to the Alabama shooting and now they're looking at charges of posse comandatis violation.

01:28:55.000 That's right.

01:28:55.000 That's a good sign.

01:28:56.000 It's a good sign that within the military there's still people who understand the necessary wall of separation between civil and military power and take it serious.

01:29:06.000 So we're very confident.

01:29:08.000 We feel very good about this.

01:29:09.000 One thing I do want to ask your listeners to do, we are going to be doing a tribute video to men who served.

01:29:17.000 And so we'd like to have them send us in photos.

01:29:21.000 Of those who served when they were young, all the old photos of them and their buddies, and who they were and where they served, email them to us and we'll put them in our tribute video.

01:29:32.000 Absolutely.

01:29:33.000 Stay there.

01:29:33.000 I want to say one last point when we get back of how the enemy's going to attack your key operation, then we've got our next guest on the line, get our next guest up.

01:29:40.000 Stay there for two more minutes on the other side, we'll get to our next guest.

01:29:43.000 Stay with us.

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01:33:05.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:33:10.000 We are back live.

01:33:12.000 We have 52 minutes left in transmission.

01:33:14.000 In just a few minutes, we're going to go directly to our guest who apologized and rescheduled twice last week.

01:33:18.000 So much has been happening.

01:33:19.000 He's written an amazing book.

01:33:20.000 I've already read most of it.

01:33:21.000 It's somewhere in here in the office.

01:33:23.000 Will somebody find me that New World Order book?

01:33:25.000 Corporatism, the Secret Government, and the New World Order.

01:33:27.000 Talk to this professor here in just a moment.

01:33:29.000 Researcher.

01:33:30.000 But finishing up with Stuart Rhodes of oath-keepers.blogspot.com.

01:33:36.000 Let me tell everybody here how they're going to attack what you're doing.

01:33:40.000 And it's with fear, again.

01:33:43.000 Intimidation of police and military that speak out.

01:33:45.000 But as more and more speak out, it's kind of like in those famous, you know, historical things where we have a church full of people in the Revolutionary War, and they'll say, who stands with us?

01:33:52.000 It takes about a minute, and one guy steps forward, and then two step forward, and then everybody steps forward.

01:33:57.000 Same thing with the Alamo in 1836.

01:34:01.000 The enemy, and I bet if I Google this it's already out there, is going to say, don't sign up for this!

01:34:05.000 It's Feds getting your name in the list and they're going to get you! 0.97

01:34:09.000 You have to be, I've always said this, out in the open, resisting the New World Order, speaking out, involved.

01:34:16.000 We are the majority, we have to shatter That illusion that we're not the majority and we have to get past the mind game of fear.

01:34:25.000 And so I think it's a great idea whether it's anonymous, you write letters and post things, or other people should start other Oath Keeper sites, more groups, lots of people.

01:34:32.000 But it's good, in my experience, just to go past the point of no return and to commit.

01:34:38.000 We're only saying we'll follow our oath.

01:34:40.000 I mean, that's how I got the city of Austin was saying they were going to vote against the Patriot Act.

01:34:45.000 Repudiation.

01:34:46.000 They were going to vote for the Patriot Act and keep it.

01:34:48.000 And I went in there, and I gave them an impassioned, the most powerful speech I've probably ever given.

01:34:52.000 It was directly from my soul.

01:34:54.000 And I explained to them their children had no future.

01:34:56.000 I explained to them all we were doing had no future.

01:34:59.000 This continued.

01:35:01.000 That all they were doing was reaffirming the Bill of Rights Constitution.

01:35:03.000 All they were doing was saying they'd follow their oaths of office for the City Council, the police, the firemen, the workers.

01:35:11.000 That they had to do it, and they did vote to overthrow it, and people that were saying they were going to vote against, voted for.

01:35:16.000 Because, I mean, I poured everything into literally trying to reach in and grab them.

01:35:20.000 You know, just literally brush up against their souls, and I did.

01:35:24.000 You know, literally bending my will with goodness towards them.

01:35:27.000 And believe me, that's what humanity's all about, folks.

01:35:29.000 You've got power, you don't know you have.

01:35:31.000 It's a survival mechanism with the truth to literally be able to reach out to people.

01:35:35.000 When you're telling the truth, it's unstoppable.

01:35:37.000 The Globalists are going to pull a lot of other tricks, but I wanted to, just in closing, Stewart Rhodes, get your take on that enemy attack angle, and has that already happened?

01:35:46.000 Well, not yet, and here's what we're going to do.

01:35:47.000 We're going to do the same thing that Congressman Paul did with his campaign.

01:35:50.000 We're going to let the few... We've already got an officer in Houston who's volunteered to run our Facebook operation, and we encourage folks to start up meet-up groups.

01:35:59.000 I mean, the website... We'd like people to send their testimonials to the website so everyone can go there and read the testimonials, and we don't screen anything.

01:36:06.000 We post them, they send them, we post them.

01:36:09.000 And by decentralizing with meetups, it turns the engine loose.

01:36:16.000 We're no intelligence unit, no group in the government could track or trace or stop what we're doing or try dirty tricks on anybody because there's too many of us and agents that are assigned to try to infiltrate or cause problems will convert over to our side, I'd say 80% of the time.

01:36:32.000 Exactly.

01:36:32.000 Here's the other thing.

01:36:33.000 We do encourage active duty to stay anonymous, unless their short timers are going to be getting out soon, or, you know, a few people standing up and making a convicted statement is fine, but for the most part, we do think it's probably wise for most of them just to send an anonymous statement.

01:36:47.000 Well, that's their decision.

01:36:49.000 I'm just saying most of this is anonymous.

01:36:50.000 I'm saying we need more, I think, to go all the way.

01:36:53.000 Because that's what's going to shatter the illusion of the establishment.

01:36:58.000 I agree, but it's up to them.

01:36:59.000 I want them to know they can do it anonymously.

01:37:01.000 They can go on there and any discussion and just post an anonymous comment and we'll turn it into an anonymous post.

01:37:08.000 And the veterans definitely should stand up and be counted, for sure.

01:37:12.000 Yeah, I mean, they'll charge machine gun nests and fly helicopters into hell, but they won't stand up when the country's imploding.

01:37:18.000 No, they are standing up.

01:37:19.000 Sir, we commend you.

01:37:21.000 The website again is oath-keepers.blogspot.com, or just Google Oath Keepers, and folks will find it that way.

01:37:27.000 We'll talk to you in the near future.

01:37:28.000 Awesome, sir.

01:37:30.000 Thank you for spending time with us.

01:37:32.000 Really great hearing from you.

01:37:34.000 Okay, let's go to our next guest, lecturer and college instructor, Jeffrey Grubb.

01:37:39.000 He wrote the book, Corporatism, the Secret Government of the New World Order, and they do use a corporate Model our finance oligarchs to control things.

01:37:47.000 That is the real government.

01:37:48.000 That's the elite.

01:37:49.000 And there's Catholics, there's Jews, there's Protestants, there's Hindus in it. 0.72

01:37:54.000 It's a system of global fiat currency control and corporate management system behind governments and through governments.

01:38:00.000 And his book is excellent.

01:38:02.000 Corporatism, The Secret Government of the New World Order, Jeffrey Grubb.

01:38:05.000 An amazing book, a remarkable book.

01:38:07.000 And it's just very, very interesting and we're glad to have him on with us.

01:38:10.000 Sir, thanks for joining us.

01:38:12.000 Thanks very much, Alex.

01:38:13.000 I'm really happy to be on.

01:38:14.000 I just want to say I'm a big admirer, a big fan of yours.

01:38:16.000 What you're doing just gives me a lot of inspiration.

01:38:19.000 We live in a nation full of men, young men especially, who are confused being raised by these fake churches and TV and public schools and they get to be 20, 30 years old, don't know what they're doing, don't know who they are.

01:38:31.000 I think what you're doing is helping them learn how to be men by the entire nation, I would say.

01:38:37.000 Yeah, we've never been given our true identity and people are unhappy until they find what the identity is.

01:38:41.000 Fight for freedom.

01:38:42.000 Fight for liberty.

01:38:43.000 Be informed.

01:38:43.000 Be involved.

01:38:44.000 Engage the world.

01:38:45.000 You're only alive once.

01:38:46.000 Tell us about yourself.

01:38:47.000 Tell us about the book.

01:38:49.000 Okay, I think one of the reasons that you wanted me to come on was I just recently got fired from Purdue University for an incident that happened with a gun.

01:38:56.000 It was actually my second incident with a gun at the university.

01:39:01.000 And, well, anyway, about me, my name is Jeffrey Grubb.

01:39:03.000 I am the author of a book, Corporatism, which is published by Progressive Press.

01:39:07.000 It's on Amazon.

01:39:09.000 And I'm 38, been an instructor in philosophy at a number of schools in northern Indiana, and I was fired from two of them.

01:39:17.000 Actually, the first time I was fired was from Indiana University for talking about vaccines and the New World Order and 9-11 and a bioethics class, and they sure didn't like that too much and got rid of me real quick.

01:39:27.000 I've got a lot of publications and I look pretty good on paper to the university, so I got another job real quick in the Purdue University system where I've been getting my PhD.

01:39:35.000 I'm actually a lecturer.

01:39:36.000 It's a non-PhD teacher at a university.

01:39:42.000 I was teaching at Purdue North Central up in northern Indiana, which is a branch campus of Purdue University, and I had requested to teach in the prisons because they have a little program where they teach in I teach inmates in the prisons and I've been doing it for the last 18 months or so and I was on my way to work, I think it was February 24 or so.

01:40:02.000 Rushing around like crazy and I'm really busy writing books, taking care of my family, working two jobs, etc.

01:40:08.000 No, you're just like Jimmy Johnson who twice has tried to take his handgun, because he gets death threats and stuff, why couldn't he, you know, onto the airplane and they scan the briefcase and there's the gun, so a similar thing happened to you.

01:40:23.000 Yeah, the nation's full of these anti-Second Amendment zones.

01:40:27.000 I forgot to take my gun out of my school supplies because I had it on me because I was running errands during the morning before I went up to teach at the prison.

01:40:35.000 Of course, the media won't report on depleted uranium and the burning of the rainforest and all this kind of stuff.

01:40:41.000 What they want to do is report on me, a professor.

01:40:43.000 Well, I'm called a lecturer.

01:40:44.000 I forgot to take my gun out of my school supplies.

01:40:47.000 It's in the Indianapolis Star and the Chicago Tribune.

01:40:50.000 They get the story all wrong.

01:40:51.000 They say, you know, I was trying to smuggle the gun and all this crazy stuff.

01:40:54.000 And it's just, it's just pretty amazing that that's what, it just shows that that's what the media is all about.

01:40:59.000 The mainstream media, that's what they're going to fail.

01:41:01.000 You know, the future is, is us, is this, this voice, you know, against the new old order.

01:41:05.000 I think a lot of these universities are going to, you know, we're just beginning this economic crisis and it's, you know, a lot of universities when this economic crisis really gets going, you know, later this year, into next year, A lot of them are going to fail, and I think eventually with American Revolution II starting here, we're going to get new universities, or the ones that exist are going to be heavily modified, and I think our information, our voice, I think is the future there.

01:41:26.000 So, I mean, I don't, you know, that I got fired from my job, really I don't care.

01:41:29.000 I've been teaching for eight years, you know, all summer, a lot of classes.

01:41:32.000 I'm anxious to take some time off, and plus, I don't really know where I fit in these schools anymore.

01:41:36.000 I mean, these universities, they're not teaching empirical information.

01:41:40.000 I mean, it's hard for people to understand this if you're not really in the university system paying attention to what's going on, but they're not, you know, you don't get into a class and sit there and tell your students, okay, I got this scientific article from this top journal and this scientific article from this article from this top journal.

01:41:53.000 We're going to just debate these and we're going to get to the bottom of things and we're going to be empirical researchers.

01:41:57.000 That almost never happens anywhere.

01:41:59.000 Well, they teach you the German 200-year-old model of not learning how to think and learning how magical the world is and how things connect. 0.87

01:42:06.000 It's all just by rote, regurgitating information.

01:42:10.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:42:11.000 Well, they've got these agendas.

01:42:12.000 Like, when I was teaching bioethics at Indiana University Northwest, which I was fired from, they wanted me to teach this bioethics class.

01:42:19.000 And I said, OK, that sounds great.

01:42:21.000 Didn't have a whole lot of background in it, but I said I'll do it because I could use it.

01:42:21.000 I'd love to.

01:42:24.000 And it was really a eugenics class they wanted to teach here.

01:42:26.000 Yeah.

01:42:27.000 Yeah, they wanted me to teach eugenics, which, you know, it doesn't really... By the way, we've never talked before.

01:42:31.000 I just knew that because that's what they teach.

01:42:33.000 But go ahead.

01:42:35.000 Well, they wanted me to teach about euthanasia and all this stuff.

01:42:35.000 Yeah, no, right.

01:42:38.000 And I said, you know, it's not really relevant.

01:42:39.000 You know, I'm wasting the students' money, not really teaching them relevant information.

01:42:43.000 So what I did is I just, on my own, got rid of that section of the class.

01:42:46.000 Yeah, it's brainwashing! 0.93

01:42:48.000 You pay $30,000 a year or whatever to go be brainwashed and taught a bunch of propaganda instead of information.

01:42:53.000 Go ahead.

01:42:55.000 Yeah, it's absolutely unbelievable that people don't just wake up and say, what am I doing here?

01:42:59.000 I mean, I take a calculus class.

01:43:01.000 We really only learn about four concepts the whole semester, and I never use any of this stuff ever again.

01:43:04.000 That's why I dropped out of college.

01:43:06.000 I was ma- I mean, it was like, I'd go to math class, and it'd be how we've got to get rid of the most of the population, guns are bad.

01:43:12.000 I'd go to, uh, you know, philosophy class, it was all New World Order.

01:43:15.000 I'd go to Texas history, it'd all be New World Order. 0.80

01:43:17.000 I'd go to U.S.

01:43:18.000 history, it'd all be New World Order.

01:43:19.000 It didn't matter what class, art class, it'd be New World Order. 0.97

01:43:22.000 I mean, just everywhere, it's brainwashing.

01:43:25.000 Yeah, people don't pick up on this because they do it in a hidden way.

01:43:28.000 Some classes won't talk about eugenics, so what they'll do is talk about global warming.

01:43:31.000 It'll act like everybody's in agreement and you get the two students in the back who are questioning it and then all the rest of the students gang up against them.

01:43:39.000 People don't know I mean, brainwashing in the universities is really serious.

01:43:43.000 They're re-education camps.

01:43:45.000 They're re-education camps.

01:43:46.000 Military, same thing.

01:43:47.000 Shaved heads, sleep deprivation. 0.97

01:43:48.000 And this is what people don't understand.

01:43:50.000 This is all 200 years old.

01:43:51.000 It all comes out of Germany and England. 0.96

01:43:53.000 And before education wasn't like this... I mean, everything you're saying is true, just because I've researched it myself.

01:43:58.000 That's what's great about talking to somebody else who's researched this with your perspective.

01:44:02.000 We're going to come back, get more into your book, and I'm going to try to shut up and get into your The Corporatism Secret, Government of the New World Order.

01:44:07.000 It's published by Webster Tarpley's publisher, I thought I would add, so to give you an idea of the caliber of the material, and Progressive Press, so we really appreciate having you on the show with us.

01:44:17.000 We're going to come right back to you after this break, but...

01:44:20.000 Yeah, I mean, you pay after 12 years of your children being brainwashed at government schools to send them to another re-education camp.

01:44:28.000 And folks, when I say re-education camp, they are re-education camps.

01:44:31.000 I mean, re-education, Soviet Nazi system, that is what goes on at most universities. 0.78

01:44:37.000 You got some good professors and teachers who aren't like that, but overall, it is a brainwashing mess.

01:44:43.000 I mean, they tried to recruit my dad into eugenics when he went to UT in the 60s.

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01:46:46.000 In the New World Order's war against humanity, Barack Obama is the tip of the spear.

01:46:55.000 We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to see.

01:47:01.000 The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.

01:47:07.000 Well, Obama's already fudging.

01:47:09.000 He's fudged since day one in this election.

01:47:12.000 If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.

01:47:25.000 It's not about left or right.

01:47:26.000 It's about a one world government.

01:47:28.000 This film documents who Obama works for, the lies he is told, and his real agenda.

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01:49:31.000 All right, let's go back to our guest, Jeffrey Grubb.

01:49:34.000 Jeffrey, continue.

01:49:35.000 Let's get into your book, Corporatism, The Secret Government of the New World Order.

01:49:41.000 Yeah, that book was written from 2003 to 2007.

01:49:45.000 When 9-11 happened, I was deep in my academic studies getting my master's degree, and I really didn't even pay attention.

01:49:50.000 I actually tried as best as I could to ignore all politics.

01:49:54.000 Ignore everything about the world.

01:49:55.000 I just thought it was a complete joke.

01:49:56.000 I didn't want to pay attention.

01:49:57.000 I just wanted to do my academic work.

01:49:58.000 But then, 2003 happened.

01:50:00.000 March 20th.

01:50:02.000 I forgot exactly.

01:50:03.000 The 19th, when we invaded Iraq.

01:50:04.000 I was sitting there in Applebee's with my father, having a happy little lunch, watching people of Baghdad get blown to bits. 1.00

01:50:10.000 And that completely shocked me, unbelievably.

01:50:13.000 And from that point on, I've been distracted.

01:50:15.000 My academic work has been distracted.

01:50:17.000 All I can really focus on is what exactly is going on in the world.

01:50:20.000 The book, Corporatism, is my process of trying to figure out what's going on in the world.

01:50:24.000 It took me four years to write.

01:50:26.000 I basically researched it 100 hours a week or more to get that book to be completed.

01:50:31.000 Of course, you're quoted in the book about 30 times, Alex.

01:50:34.000 I've been listening to you ever since 2003.

01:50:35.000 Where else am I going to get this information?

01:50:40.000 You guys report all this stuff.

01:50:42.000 It's really hard to find any really good information.

01:50:46.000 Um, but the book is, uh, I think, there's only one problem, I think, with it, you know, like you said the other day about the Obama deception, you, you know, after you finish something, you find out things you wish you added later.

01:50:55.000 There's a couple things I wish I added later, but the book basically, to sum it up, is about how the secret government works.

01:51:01.000 The secret government is basically invisible.

01:51:04.000 I mean, people like Rockefeller and stuff, um, are getting close to the core of it, but, uh, you know, the people we see on TV, what I call the visible government, We're showing these people on TV, you know, Obama.

01:51:15.000 You remember the election was happening and we were basically told who to vote for.

01:51:18.000 The public didn't even know who Ron Paul was until late in the game.

01:51:20.000 Yeah, they spent billions manufacturing this guy.

01:51:23.000 That's prima facie evidence.

01:51:25.000 He's New World Order.

01:51:26.000 Then all his advisors.

01:51:27.000 Now the policies.

01:51:28.000 Now the betrayals.

01:51:29.000 I mean, you know, he comes out and says, I am against these bailouts and these bonuses.

01:51:34.000 I'm fighting it.

01:51:34.000 And it turns out he specifically signed an executive order to allow it and had Dodd put it in the law And that's now mainstream news.

01:51:43.000 Well, I knew that months ago.

01:51:44.000 We put it in the Obama Deception that was just released.

01:51:46.000 But that's now mainstream news today.

01:51:49.000 Yeah, Obama's specifically doing the neocon agenda where you say one thing, and you purposely say exactly the opposite of what you're implementing.

01:51:58.000 So he'll say, I'm against AIG and the banks, and go on the TV and scold them and stuff.

01:52:02.000 But then, you know, he's, like you say, you show in the Obama deception, he's the guy behind the whole thing as far as the puppet government goes.

01:52:09.000 But then behind the puppet government, the book discusses, there's the New World Order, which is basically corporate.

01:52:14.000 And it's basically a satanic government.

01:52:17.000 It's largely invisible, and it's bent on setting up a world of concentration camps.

01:52:22.000 That's the last chapter of the book.

01:52:23.000 And basically torturing and killing people for some sort of enjoyment or pleasure that they have. 0.87

01:52:30.000 It's some sort of religion.

01:52:32.000 So that's the summation of your research, which is true.

01:52:35.000 You could be an atheist and come to that realization.

01:52:37.000 People are like, I don't believe in that.

01:52:38.000 I'm an atheist or I'm an agnostic.

01:52:40.000 Point is, the globalists believe in it.

01:52:42.000 I mean, they are into this stuff.

01:52:43.000 They are out of their minds.

01:52:45.000 Actually, Alex, I used to be an atheist.

01:52:47.000 I even published an academic article in a top philosophy journal called Sophia.

01:52:52.000 I'm trying to prove that God didn't exist.

01:52:54.000 Way back deep into the 90s, I was so angry with my upbringing and the horrible church that I was raised in.

01:53:00.000 I just became this fiery, bitter atheist.

01:53:02.000 I read a book in the last few years called Beginning Sacred Design by Bonnie Gaunt.

01:53:07.000 Pretty much, I can't believe that nobody's talking about this information in the churches or on TV.

01:53:12.000 Well, that's why a lot of top scientists who have been atheists, when they finally look at DNA under electron microscopes and the layers and how there's, you know, in there, they're like, my God, this is designed.

01:53:23.000 I mean, this didn't come out of a cabbage patch.

01:53:26.000 It's everywhere.

01:53:26.000 Look at the solar system.

01:53:28.000 When you look at the numbers of the solar system, the diameter of the sun, moon, earth, the ratios of all these diameters.

01:53:34.000 Where we had to be in the galaxy, it's all perfect.

01:53:39.000 Take Newgrange up in Ireland, that ancient temple, about 2000 BC, it's estimated to have been created.

01:53:46.000 The sun, I think it's the winter solstice, there's one beam of light that channels down the central column of the middle of the temple because these people knew so much about the sun back then.

01:53:57.000 So they designed it so right at the winter solstice, the sun, you know, just at that one day, you'd have a beam of light that went down because the temple was oriented to the sky.

01:54:05.000 Now, the thing that happens is at night, the full moon does the exact same thing.

01:54:09.000 Now, what does that tell you?

01:54:10.000 That tells you that the sun and the moon at those specifically, those very precise states are traveling exactly the same trajectory through the sky without any deviation.

01:54:21.000 Now, that can't be a coincidence.

01:54:23.000 That's unbelievable.

01:54:25.000 I could name 20 of those coincidences.

01:54:27.000 Let me come back.

01:54:27.000 Let's do it.

01:54:28.000 No, let's do it if you want.

01:54:29.000 Let's get into the book and a lot more with our guest, folks.

01:54:32.000 The book is Corporatism, the Secret Government of the New World Order, Jeffrey Grubb.

01:54:36.000 I suggest you get it today.

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01:58:42.000 Corporatism, the secret government of the New World Order, but he'll be on hold a few minutes.

01:58:45.000 I want to bring Ted Anderson up right now because Every time gold goes down, and the graph goes like this, you know.

01:58:53.000 It's the last five years going up, but every time it dips, Ted buys it when it's low, and then he doesn't raise the price to the current rate.

01:59:00.000 He passes it on to you.

01:59:02.000 Because Ted understands psychology.

01:59:03.000 Some of these people buy when it's high.

01:59:05.000 I buy when it's low.

01:59:07.000 Well, he passes that on.

01:59:08.000 You're buying it at the low price when it's gone up.

01:59:10.000 It went up 30 bucks yesterday.

01:59:11.000 It's gone up like 15 today.

01:59:13.000 Skyrocketing back upwards.

01:59:14.000 I don't know what the future holds, but I know gold and silver is real.

01:59:17.000 I know they're devaluing the dollar.

01:59:19.000 They're openly talking about abandoning the dollar.

01:59:20.000 If that happens, you know, I got articles here, in fact, I meant to get to.

01:59:24.000 $750 billion green investment could revive economy, UN says.

01:59:29.000 They're calling for a world tax on all fuel.

01:59:32.000 And if you think $750 billion is big, that's just how they're going to start.

01:59:34.000 The income tax started at 1%.

01:59:37.000 It wasn't widely adopted until the 50s, though they passed it in 1913.

01:59:41.000 So, I mean, this is insane, the stuff.

01:59:43.000 I mean, here's London Telegraph, where they're talking about yesterday, issuing their own global super currency, and then another article said, oh, they're already doing it.

01:59:51.000 So, Ted Anderson, you've got silver, you've got gold at insane deals.

01:59:56.000 Out of the gates, we always run out of time, give folks the group of coins you're offering today at the insane price of Would you buy this when it was down by $70?

02:00:04.000 Yeah, Alex, right when the market dipped there, I took advantage of those low prices and now we have gold trading around $9.60, which is up again today.

02:00:15.000 That news that the Fed's going in there buying U.S. 0.97

02:00:18.000 Treasuries is just driving gold up through the roof.

02:00:20.000 That means the private bankers are selling themselves Treasuries taxpayer-backed.

02:00:26.000 The foreigners aren't buying enough of it to keep us afloat and they're moving away fast. 1.00

02:00:31.000 If folks don't know what that means, why don't you tell them, Ted?

02:00:33.000 Well, it just means that we're going to see inflation.

02:00:35.000 I mean, you think you've had an assault on your stocks and bonds and your 401k plans and your IRAs now.

02:00:41.000 Just wait until inflation starts coming.

02:00:44.000 Everybody knows now that we're looking at some huge inflation in the future here.

02:00:48.000 They just said yesterday, record inflation.

02:00:51.000 Record inflation in the last 20 years just came in.

02:00:54.000 Yeah, that's what everybody's pointing at right now because when the Federal Reserve System buys U.S.

02:00:58.000 government treasuries, it means they're printing money.

02:01:01.000 That's what it means.

02:01:02.000 And folks, inflation means the dollars are worthless. 0.98

02:01:07.000 I know this sounds stupid, but some people are elementary. 0.96

02:01:09.000 I'm going to be simple here. 0.97

02:01:11.000 When there's inflation, commodities, especially those that have true value as currency, gold and silver, historically only go up.

02:01:19.000 It's the most active time in trading for gold and silver that you can ever hope for.

02:01:22.000 I mean, back in 1980, gold went from $40 an ounce to $800 an ounce in about six years.

02:01:30.000 And now we're starting at a level of about $300, and if the same movement comes along, we're going to be looking at $4,000, $5,000, maybe even $6,000 gold.

02:01:38.000 And this is the answers that our government and the Federal Reserve System has for us.

02:01:44.000 And you're right, the U.N.

02:01:46.000 is trying to get away from using the United States currency as a world reserve currency.

02:01:50.000 That's going to kill us.

02:01:51.000 We have to have foreigners buying our debt in order to survive.

02:01:55.000 This is a slow slide into depression, but if the dollar gets dumped, which is openly being discussed, it will be an overnight crash.

02:02:03.000 Well, Alex, when I was up on the air just at the very end of the show yesterday, I told you I had some deals in here.

02:02:10.000 I have francs still.

02:02:11.000 Same price I had them yesterday, even though gold is up again so much today.

02:02:15.000 I have francs still from the time when gold was sitting here at its bottom.

02:02:19.000 At $218, I've got British sovereigns at $272.

02:02:22.000 Silver's up.

02:02:23.000 I still have the Franklin halves at $869 apiece, or $173 per roll of $20.

02:02:29.000 And I have some of the U.S.

02:02:32.000 Eagles and some of the various different coins that you can find in the gold market.

02:02:36.000 You're going to have to ask for those because I just don't have enough quantities to go out.

02:02:39.000 We have $20 gold pieces and tens.

02:02:41.000 Just call 1-800-686-2237 and take advantage of this.

02:02:47.000 The market is going up right now and it'll continue to go up as the Fed steps in and inflates away.

02:02:55.000 Deficit spend our way out of our problems.

02:02:58.000 And to explain to people what's going on, you have gold at, is it $60 or $70 under what it's currently selling for?

02:03:05.000 Well that's the thing Alex, it was what, around $890 when it hit its low here last time?

02:03:09.000 So that's a $70 under buy you made, you're passing those savings on, you cannot beat this deal.

02:03:15.000 Tell them the coin's dead.

02:03:16.000 Yeah, again, the Frank coin right now is at $218.

02:03:19.000 The Sovereign coin right now is at $272.

02:03:23.000 The Franklin half is right now at $8.69.

02:03:28.000 That's a silver coin.

02:03:29.000 I mean, people should be buying gold and silver right now.

02:03:31.000 Inflation is going to push this stuff up through the rough.

02:03:34.000 Yeah, the silver coin is $8.80-something cents.

02:03:39.000 I mean, silver dollars, if you can find them, are over $20 apiece, Ted.

02:03:42.000 I know.

02:03:43.000 They've been trading for more than $20 here for almost the last year.

02:03:46.000 Every now and then you're lucky to get something for $18.

02:03:49.000 You know, and here this thing is $8.69.

02:03:50.000 I mean, it is really a good buy.

02:03:52.000 It is.

02:03:52.000 800-686-2237.

02:03:53.000 1-800.

02:03:53.000 Give them the number, folks.

02:03:54.000 Yeah, 1-800-686-2237.

02:03:55.000 It is 800-686-2237, 1-800.

02:04:00.000 Give them the number, folks.

02:04:01.000 Yeah, 1-800-686-2237.

02:04:05.000 Again, it's 1-800-686-2237.

02:04:08.000 Man, pull your head out of the sand.

02:04:10.000 Get as much gold and silver as you can at this time.

02:04:13.000 I can't say that enough.

02:04:14.000 It's not just... 1-800-686-237.

02:04:18.000 Did you hear that state police officer who broke the MIAC report here on last hour?

02:04:21.000 And he said, he said, Alex, you told me to get out of the stock market two and a half years ago.

02:04:25.000 At the top, I did it.

02:04:26.000 You told me to get out of my house two and a half years ago.

02:04:28.000 I did it.

02:04:29.000 I've made hundreds of thousands of dollars. 0.99

02:04:30.000 Everybody else, you know, is losing their butt in his state police office. 0.97

02:04:34.000 He's senior. 0.99

02:04:35.000 I can't say it better than that, Alex.

02:04:36.000 left, now they're listening, told them to get into gold, they did, did well.

02:04:40.000 Is gold perfect?

02:04:41.000 The globalists can manipulate things, but they can't do it for long.

02:04:44.000 And historically, there is not a better investment than gold and silver.

02:04:48.000 You are insane if you don't convert a lot of your liquid cash or stocks and bonds into gold and silver.

02:04:53.000 I can't say it better than that, Alex.

02:04:56.000 At this time, if you're sitting in annuities, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, you have 401ks, IRAs, you should be calling us at 1-800-686-223.

02:05:05.000 The only excuse is, is that you're out of paper currency.

02:05:09.000 You don't have any more.

02:05:10.000 I just don't, I can't say it enough.

02:05:12.000 The United States dollar is under attack.

02:05:15.000 And you better do something about it.

02:05:17.000 And if you can't see the tidal wave coming, you're going to get drowned.

02:05:21.000 And when I was first telling folks to get gold, it was $280, $267 an ounce, and it's been above $1,000.

02:05:21.000 800-686-237.

02:05:30.000 It's going back that way now.

02:05:31.000 Ted's selling it to you at the $890 level.

02:05:34.000 So, I mean, if you do the math, he's selling it at the $890 level.

02:05:37.000 You know, there's tiny markup in there and things.

02:05:39.000 He's selling it to you at the $890 level when it's $960.

02:05:43.000 800-686-2237.

02:05:46.000 Ted, thanks for talking to us.

02:05:47.000 The Brokers will be there until midnight.

02:05:48.000 Yeah, well, thanks for putting such a great show on.

02:05:50.000 I'll talk to you later.

02:05:51.000 Thank you, Ted.

02:05:52.000 Oh, what did you think about Ron Paul and they were about to threaten to sue?

02:05:55.000 They're writing a letter.

02:05:56.000 They're threatening to sue Missouri if they don't retract all that slander and that MIAC report.

02:06:02.000 I know, I listen to that part of your show and I tell you what, it makes my blood pressure go up because I'm going to be down there in Missouri with Ron Paul next Friday and Saturday and Sunday and I got to tell you, There isn't a better statesman out there.

02:06:14.000 I can't believe that anybody would stand and let something like this happen.

02:06:18.000 Well, it's because they're getting desperate.

02:06:20.000 Thank you, Ted.

02:06:20.000 800-686-237.

02:06:22.000 Yeah, thanks a lot.

02:06:23.000 All right, there goes Ted Anderson on this for about six, seven minutes.

02:06:25.000 Let's go back to Jeffrey Grubb.

02:06:27.000 Jeffrey, please continue with your research of how the real government, the shadow government, works in your book, Corporatism, the Secret Government of the New World.

02:06:34.000 Order available from ProgressivePress.com.

02:06:38.000 ProgressivePress.com.

02:06:39.000 Go ahead.

02:06:40.000 Okay, and before I end the show, Alex, I've got to read you a Samuel Adams quote about the Second Amendment.

02:06:45.000 An Al-Qaeda quote?

02:06:47.000 Oh, you're going to mention a terrorist on my show?

02:06:49.000 Okay, go ahead, I guess.

02:06:51.000 Can I read that right now?

02:06:52.000 Read the terrorist, yes.

02:06:53.000 Okay, this is specifically in reference to, you know, Obama saying, you know, all these government people saying, you know, you can own a gun, but we just want to restrict it, blah, blah, blah.

02:07:02.000 You know, they want to put, they want to take control over and certify, you know, it's like a certification, you know.

02:07:08.000 When you have a certification over something, like organic food or whatever, the government can come in and control it, basically.

02:07:12.000 Turns a right into a privilege.

02:07:14.000 Yeah.

02:07:14.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:07:15.000 So here's Samuel Adams.

02:07:17.000 Among the natural rights of the colonists are these.

02:07:20.000 First, a right to life.

02:07:21.000 Second, to flee a life, or to liberty.

02:07:24.000 Thirdly, to property.

02:07:25.000 Together, with the right to support and defend them, keyword defend them, in the best manner they can.

02:07:30.000 The key to that quote is the best manner they can.

02:07:30.000 Okay?

02:07:33.000 What that means is, if it's best for us to defend our property and pursuit of happiness with an AR-15, which of course uses .223 most of the time, then that's specifically what we should use, according to this key founding father.

02:07:48.000 So when somebody like Obama says, oh no, we want to restrict something like .223 ammo, they're breaking the law.

02:07:54.000 The people should act accordingly to what they're doing.

02:07:57.000 And basically not cooperate.

02:07:59.000 We should perform civil disobedience against this administration in every way. 0.95

02:08:04.000 That, which is what I think is the best way to eliminate these people.

02:08:08.000 But that comes from, I'm reading out of a book called The Second Amendment by David Barton.

02:08:12.000 That's page 24 and then he's got the site, the reference in there exactly where it isn't.

02:08:16.000 No, I know that quote.

02:08:17.000 I know it well.

02:08:18.000 Your website, by the way, is abstractadam.com.

02:08:21.000 Abstractadam.com.

02:08:23.000 Please continue.

02:08:24.000 Yeah, that website is mostly just my academic work.

02:08:26.000 There's probably not a whole lot that, um, there's probably not what the listeners are thinking.

02:08:29.000 It's just basically an academic site.

02:08:31.000 But I continue on, um, let me tell you another story about what happened at, um, Purdue North Central.

02:08:36.000 I think you'll really like this one.

02:08:37.000 This is different than the story of trying to, you know, forgetting to take my gun out of my stuff when I entered the prison that I was teaching at.

02:08:43.000 Um, but this happened last summer.

02:08:45.000 I was, uh, teaching ethics class.

02:08:48.000 And, you know, these ethics classes in college, you know, it's just a lot of fluff.

02:08:51.000 You can get the concepts over pretty easy, so you've got to fill it in with interesting concepts in the meantime.

02:08:54.000 So, of course, I'm bringing up the Second Amendment all the time.

02:08:57.000 But a couple days into the class, we were talking about evolution before that, and I was talking about how it's just a theory, and, you know, really, a lot of the research they say out there that it proves evolution is just a joke.

02:09:08.000 You know, these four-million-year-old bones, how do we know those are connected to our lineage?

02:09:11.000 And, you know, they say that there's all this evidence in the junk DNA of the retroviruses To show that we've got the exact same pattern.

02:09:20.000 I want to be clear about this.

02:09:22.000 The way the phony churches have made the debate, I think is unscientific too and not in the Bible.

02:09:28.000 Claiming things are however many years old.

02:09:31.000 Clearly, I believe we have an old earth.

02:09:33.000 The Bible talks about creations before that.

02:09:35.000 Regardless of that, they try to set all religion or spirituality against science when the science is showing that there is a master builder.

02:09:45.000 But go ahead.

02:09:47.000 Yeah, we can go look at a fossil record.

02:09:48.000 It seems like there's something, you know, step-by-step going on through the millions of years.

02:09:51.000 The problem is, it's trying to say that we come from apes.

02:09:54.000 That's where the evidence is lacking.

02:09:55.000 Yeah, these are separate arms.

02:09:57.000 These are separate arms of development.

02:09:59.000 You know, you don't have a fish turning into a human, or you don't have a chimpanzee turning into a human.

02:10:04.000 These are separate, divergent.

02:10:05.000 They have the continual fossil record that doesn't have, you know, these connections.

02:10:12.000 There's these massive jumps, like overnight.

02:10:15.000 Go ahead.

02:10:16.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:10:16.000 It's called punctuated equilibrium.

02:10:18.000 This gradual evolution that Darwin put forth doesn't really exist in the fossil record.

02:10:21.000 That's actually pretty mainstream among biologists and stuff these days.

02:10:24.000 But anyways, I was trying to, I was discussing that with students, and I was trying to, you know, be empirical as I possibly could, bringing up both sides of the story and saying, you know, I don't really know, and just the evidence for us coming from chimps is not there.

02:10:34.000 So I had a couple of students just absolutely, I mean, I could just feel their anger from the front of the room.

02:10:41.000 They were just... You were committing heresy against the eugenicist religion.

02:10:45.000 Exactly, yeah. 0.98

02:10:46.000 I was basically making it look like humans were not stupid animals, but were actually powerful spiritual creatures by doing that, which goes against that whole eugenics program. 0.74

02:10:55.000 So then the next class, to fill in time, we brought up some controversial issues to illustrate the concepts and philosophical ethics, and those were the Second Amendment, of course. 0.91

02:11:03.000 I'm always itching to bring up the Second Amendment.

02:11:05.000 It's my favorite thing in the world, besides reading it, is guns.

02:11:08.000 I mean, just the freedom that carrying a gun gives you, as Thomas Jefferson said, it's just second to none, that feeling.

02:11:15.000 But anyways, so I started talking.

02:11:18.000 I had this incredible handout for the students.

02:11:21.000 It's called A Lesson in the Second Amendment.

02:11:21.000 I've got it right in front of me here.

02:11:23.000 Just incredibly well documented, you know, about 100 footnotes and the thing and so forth.

02:11:28.000 And we were just going through it and all of a sudden, okay, that lasted about, you know, 40 minutes and then we moved on to the next topic in the class.

02:11:34.000 And then all of a sudden there's a bunch of police outside.

02:11:37.000 the classroom door and I'm like okay that's strange but I just kept teaching and all of a sudden a guy in plainclones motion for me to come out of the room and I get out there and there's always you know cops out in the hallway they said we got a phone call that you're carrying a gun in your pocket which of course I wasn't because I've been too afraid to of course carry a It's a felony.

02:11:54.000 It's an anti-second amendment.

02:11:55.000 So just talking about the Second Amendment, police came.

02:11:58.000 It was a, ahhh!

02:12:00.000 Well, it turns out, it turns out I found out from other students that that student, Brad, one of the students that was so angry at me for just simply questioning and using empirical evidence to question the theory of monkeys turning into humans, Through Evolution, one of them called their mother, texted their mother, and said I had a gun in my pocket.

02:12:19.000 And then the police came.

02:12:20.000 So it was basically a student did that because they were just so angry.

02:12:23.000 Well, that's what these fake intellectuals do is they try to shut down free speech by false reports, whatever they can, because it just... I mean, if your information is so powerful and so true, you should want to defend it.

02:12:36.000 It's kind of like, you know, tens of thousands of people they've grabbed over the years and say they can't have court trials with the Enemy Combatants Act and the Military Commissions Act.

02:12:45.000 I mean, if these are really terrorists and we've got proof, let's see it!

02:12:49.000 They always want to do everything they do in secret.

02:12:51.000 And they don't want to allow any debate.

02:12:54.000 Well, the whole war on terror and Al-Qaeda and everything...

02:12:58.000 If people look close, there's no evidence for anything.

02:13:01.000 I mean, if I see a videotape on TV of Osama Bin Laden, that's, strictly speaking, in the scientific sense, not evidence.

02:13:07.000 That's nothing.

02:13:08.000 Well, it's turned out those videos are old videos re-edited, that's been confirmed, and fake videos.

02:13:14.000 I mean, they've put the classic Morph computer head up, you know, with the one with him in the room.

02:13:19.000 I mean, they put out admitted fake videos.

02:13:22.000 Yeah, I mean, the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park sure did look real, I mean, but of course they're fake.

02:13:26.000 Well, you saw Forrest Gump shake hands with Kennedy.

02:13:29.000 Exactly, yeah, good one.

02:13:31.000 But the, um, the, I forgot what I was going to say.

02:13:36.000 I'm not good at that.

02:13:37.000 No, no, no, I mean, you were going through, they came after you for having supposedly a gun.

02:13:41.000 You didn't have one.

02:13:41.000 How did that end?

02:13:42.000 Oh, yeah, we were talking about, yeah, that nothing in the War on Terror is verifiable.

02:13:46.000 See, but Americans are trained to just believe whatever they want. 0.60

02:13:49.000 Just go look for evidence that the real, if you really want to get real information about the world, that it's not about the spiritual domain, but about the world.

02:13:49.000 You know, not really.

02:13:56.000 You need to use your senses.

02:13:57.000 That's what science is based on.

02:13:58.000 But people don't know to do that, so then they can put on TV all this stuff about how, you know, there's this boogeyman here and this boogeyman there.

02:14:03.000 Nobody asks for the verification, for the evidence.

02:14:05.000 People just believe it.

02:14:06.000 And then you get this whole apparatus of society, basically everybody telling each other the lie that's out of Orwell.

02:14:12.000 You know, everybody tells each other the lie and nobody knows the truth.

02:14:15.000 So you see it on TV, and then you go to work and talk about what was on TV, and you talk about it at church, and you talk about it at... It's a feedback loop.

02:14:21.000 Yeah, and it's just always lie, lie, lie, lie, and then when somebody comes along and says, oh, hey...

02:14:26.000 Diet Coke isn't healthy.

02:14:27.000 It has aspartame.

02:14:28.000 Everybody says, I can't believe that.

02:14:29.000 Nobody believes that. 1.00

02:14:30.000 You're crazy. 1.00

02:14:31.000 Everybody drinks it. 0.99

02:14:32.000 It could never be.

02:14:33.000 And now they've gotten to the point of when we prove mercury's in the food and the shots, they go, OK, mercury's good.

02:14:38.000 And we prove melamine's in the formula.

02:14:40.000 And they go, OK, we've always said it's deadly.

02:14:42.000 It's good for you.

02:14:43.000 Mercury, melamine, lead, it's all good now.

02:14:46.000 Yeah, but the denial is just so unbelievable.

02:14:48.000 Just like that police officer you had on last, an hour or whatever ago.

02:14:51.000 I've had the same thing happen to me.

02:14:52.000 When I started listening to you, I got out of stocks, I dumped my house, got into gold.

02:14:56.000 All the stuff you were saying, and I've even made members of my family tremendous amounts of money, but they'll still say, oh, you were just lucky, or it was just a coincidence.

02:15:03.000 I'm like, 20 coincidences, or just getting lucky?

02:15:07.000 Well, that's what they say about all the predictions we make, or what the guests said about oil prices, that for the next year, at least, they were going to drop down to below 50.

02:15:20.000 Oh, Alex, you guessed they were going to announce a new Bank of the World where we'd pay our carbon taxes.

02:15:25.000 Yeah, it's all over the news now, but you guessed that five years ago.

02:15:30.000 Yeah, that's exactly what people are just saying to me, too.

02:15:33.000 Oh, well, they like being slaves.

02:15:35.000 But, you know, I always say, listening to this show is very profitable if you take our advice.

02:15:41.000 We'll be right back, final segment with our guest.

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02:20:29.000 Okay, you've got about three and a half, four minutes left, sir.

02:20:31.000 You've got the final word on any other issues you'd like to cover.

02:20:35.000 Okay, that's great, because I've got something big I want to say.

02:20:37.000 I've been wanting to crawl into your show for a couple of months to say this.

02:20:41.000 I think you're out of this, Alex, and probably a lot of listeners are too.

02:20:44.000 I would just want to say that I think that it's beyond a shadow of a doubt to me that the New World Order is now using our movement to carry out their agenda.

02:20:51.000 I don't, when I, you know, like I heard Chuck Baldwin in Hour One talking about Rush Limbaugh, he was talking about the Missouri issues and stuff, and all of a sudden Glenn Beckett, our friend, and having Ron Paul all the time.

02:21:01.000 I mean, I don't, these people have been the most unwavering traitors, all acting in unison, for what decades and now all of a sudden they're disclosing all this information i don't buy it for one second there's a lot of other reasons why i don't buy it either there i think that what the new world order is doing this stuff's getting too big you're getting too big everybody's waking up so what they're going to do is basically use the movement to carry out their ends you know i mean They're going to try to co-op to get people's confidence, but be specific.

02:21:31.000 What are you hitting at here?

02:21:33.000 Well, I think, I mean, look, they're going to try to ban gardening.

02:21:35.000 I mean, that reminds me of in Robin Hood when they banned, the book Robin Hood, when they banned hunting.

02:21:39.000 Oh, you're saying they want to cause a revolution.

02:21:41.000 Yeah, they want riots.

02:21:43.000 They want to burn this place down.

02:21:44.000 Oh, I agree with you, but we need to expose that as well.

02:21:48.000 That's what I mean.

02:21:49.000 I mean, they're going to put in their own guys for this revolution, and they're going to have their other guys waiting on the other side after they destroy the old world to set up their new world that they want.

02:21:59.000 I mean, think about it.

02:22:00.000 They're doing crazy things.

02:22:02.000 All this foreclosures and inflation and homelessness and gun laws and banning gardening.

02:22:08.000 People can't pay these taxes.

02:22:10.000 Driving people into revolution.

02:22:11.000 I mean they're stepping it up unbelievably.

02:22:14.000 It just has to be the case they're trying to make everybody go crazy.

02:22:17.000 And if they're doing that, then it's part of their agenda.

02:22:19.000 But the ring, as our earlier guest said that they're after, is they want to cause the rebellion, have it be violent, have the military and police against the people.

02:22:29.000 That's going to backfire, and they are not invincible and can be defeated.

02:22:32.000 But I agree, they're positioning selves in case they lose, to pose as the patriots, to then take it over.

02:22:39.000 But we will expose that, and we are exposing that.

02:22:42.000 Yeah, it should be easy to figure those people out, you know, because like you say, Dutch people are their fruit. 1.00

02:22:48.000 But that's what I think is really going on.

02:22:50.000 I just don't buy it that all of a sudden Glenn Beck just doesn't about it.

02:22:52.000 I mean, he was calling us terrorists a year ago, and now all of a sudden he's having Ron Paul on his show.

02:22:55.000 That's why I went after him.

02:22:57.000 That's why I went up against him, okay?

02:22:59.000 I hear you, and I appreciate you joining us, sir.

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