Alex Jones Show - 20090330_Mon_Alex

00:00:02.000 Get up, stand up, stand up for your right.

00:00:19.000 We are live, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:22.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:00:24.000 Webster Tarpley is our guest in studio for the next hour and 15 minutes or so.

00:00:28.000 Then we have Rob Dube joining us with Jason Douglas, who both work for Infowars.com, producers, video editors.

00:00:38.000 They are out in Northern and Southern California.

00:00:41.000 They first went to L.A.

00:00:41.000 for the Tent Cities, then up to Sacramento and other areas.

00:00:46.000 Schwarzenegger's been out there this weekend saying, you must move.

00:00:49.000 I'm going to force you.

00:00:50.000 No homeless allowed on the streets or living in tent cities. 1.00

00:00:53.000 You will go to sports stadiums.

00:00:54.000 You will go to fairgrounds.

00:00:55.000 That is coming up with them.

00:00:56.000 Then we're going to have some of the people that have now gotten out of jail.

00:01:00.000 We've gotten a hold of two of the guys that got arrested, not Luke yet, with that whole set up.

00:01:04.000 Trying to ask Mayor Bloomberg a question.

00:01:05.000 That's coming up.

00:01:06.000 Then later on in the last hour, we'll get into what's happening in the prisons and the abuse of the prisoners there.

00:01:12.000 We've got a host of issues to cover with Webster Tarbley, who I want to thank.

00:01:16.000 He's a very intelligent, classy guy, an economist, an author, a historian.

00:01:21.000 I appreciate him on short notice when I decided last week to make a second Obama film for release July 4th.

00:01:26.000 We'll be telling you later in the week the name of the film, the website.

00:01:30.000 Just no rest for us here.

00:01:31.000 We're going to launch another film.

00:01:32.000 Obama Deception has been more successful in two weeks than anything I've ever made.

00:01:37.000 Just absolutely amazing.

00:01:38.000 So Webster's been here and Webster it's just I really count you as a friend and I really appreciate you being part of the film and being down here.

00:01:46.000 I know that you were going to be here about 10 this morning but you ended up being here late because you couldn't pull yourself away from Obama and the television writing notes.

00:01:52.000 I was driving into work at 10 a.m.

00:01:54.000 listening to most of his press conference as he announced basically nothing for the autos.

00:02:00.000 We're going to teach you.

00:02:01.000 This is going to be painful.

00:02:03.000 uh... in fact it was uh... painful concessions was a quote everything you said six eight months ago that he was going to do so we have almost twelve trillion for the bankers uh... with their fiat derivatives uh... but even loans to the automakers you can have that they call this socialism but this isn't socialism socialism uh... would be propping up uh... the uh... automakers and and and and well that would just be You know, investment in the infrastructure, really.

00:02:33.000 But instead, it's just all going offshore to these banks.

00:02:35.000 It's hot money, as Webster calls it.

00:02:37.000 So, Webster, you've got the floor.

00:02:39.000 Break down what's happening with the auto industry right now in this incredible announcement that Obama has made.

00:02:45.000 I think we've had a catastrophic defeat for the United States.

00:02:49.000 We've taken a giant step towards the collapse, the economic collapse of this country with what Obama has done.

00:02:56.000 Welcome to the fascist corporate state.

00:02:58.000 That's what this is.

00:02:59.000 This is not socialism.

00:03:01.000 This is the corporate state.

00:03:04.000 Now, what Obama says today is that He has no money, nothing, for General Motors and Chrysler.

00:03:13.000 Now this is a government that has given about $3 billion of bonuses for Bank of America.

00:03:20.000 About $3 billion of bonuses for Merrill Lynch, now a part of Bank of America.

00:03:25.000 We've got about $250 million of bonuses for AIG.

00:03:30.000 Out of bailout money!

00:03:31.000 Out of bailout money!

00:03:32.000 So, what Chrysler and General Motors need to survive for about a year, there's a good part of it that has been given out as bonuses to these parasitical jackal hyenas that run Wall Street.

00:03:47.000 Now, I think this is catastrophic.

00:03:48.000 You can see that Obama's aiming at two things.

00:03:51.000 He wants to destroy the automobile industry, and he wants to destroy the UAW.

00:03:56.000 They want to destroy industrial unionism, militant CIO-style trade unionism in the United States.

00:04:02.000 And they're going to put these companies through bankruptcy.

00:04:05.000 This is clear.

00:04:06.000 They're saying that they'll guarantee the warranty on the cars that have already been bought, but this is heading for a massive downsizing and the busting of the union.

00:04:15.000 And I think this is, well, The idea, basically, is if you don't have those factories in Detroit, if you don't have those production lines, above all, if you don't have that tool-and-die capability, meaning machine tools, you're on your way to a banana republic.

00:04:30.000 You're on your way to being a derelict hulk, a ravaged wreck, floating on the ocean of adventures, at the mercy of every other Let's be clear, in the IMF and World Bank agreements that they've had with third world countries and first world nations that they've bankrupt by design, they always tell them, you've got to sell off your industry, you've got to break it down, because the banking economy, the fiat economy, the fraud economy, the casino economy, doesn't want competition in the real world.

00:04:58.000 Because these magicians and their fiat currency openly want a post-industrial society, as Bilderberg Group says, and Club of Rome Group say, because they want total control.

00:05:07.000 And once they have the nation fully de-industrialized, then people will only be able to join the military, only be able to join government service, and will be a giant, governmental-run, third-world banana republic. 0.67

00:05:19.000 As you've just said, so this plan is clearly coming into view.

00:05:22.000 Break down what he said in this speech.

00:05:24.000 But you say Fiat, right?

00:05:25.000 It's going to be Fiat Chrysler, so we've got to get into a dimension of Fiat money.

00:05:30.000 Chrysler's going to run on Fiat money from Fiat in Turin.

00:05:34.000 We're headed towards a post-industrial junkyard, a post-industrial rubble field, a moonscape, a cratered landscape with wrecked factories.

00:05:44.000 Obama basically says that the plans submitted by uh... chrysler and and general motors are inadequate uh...

00:05:52.000 and actually what obama's looking at is the gangrene economy obama believes that everything should be green everything should be uh... low energy intensity and so forth he wants them to build green cars this is absolutely uh... crazy stuff because this can't be done And they all agree that in order to have green cars manufactured, you've got to bust the union, take away the health care from the retirees and the current workers, drive down the hourly wage, and transform Detroit from what it was, which was a high-wage economy, right?

00:06:21.000 Goes back, Henry Ford, even Henry Ford realized, you've got to pay the autoworker enough so that he can buy the cars that he's actually producing.

00:06:29.000 But now they say, no, we're going to drive them down to the sweatshop level, right?

00:06:32.000 Yeah, they don't want a growing economy, and to segue, because in all our interviews we've done in the last two days, we haven't gotten into this, and then we'll go back into the cars.

00:06:40.000 Just like two weeks ago, I had the head of the American Legion on, and it was in the Associated Press.

00:06:46.000 He went to meet with Obama, and Obama said, the rumors you've heard are true, I want to make injured veterans, not just regular veterans, but amputees, people that have catastrophic loss, I want them to have to get their own insurance and pay for their own medical care.

00:07:03.000 So they're not just talking about taking the autoworkers' pensions away or health care away.

00:07:08.000 uh... that they've signed contracts and paid money and to to to fund they're now talking about taking away from the troops.

00:07:14.000 Can you talk about taking the health care away from veterans?

00:07:17.000 Well, they basically want to drive down the standard of living that when Obama says health care reform he's referring to a process of rationing of care under the cover of maybe extending coverage to people who don't have it to essentially lop off the top of the coverage area so that the expensive operations will not You get an aspirin instead of a surgery.

00:07:37.000 Yeah, you'll be given band-aids for cancer.

00:07:39.000 Specifically, because we're making a film right now, so this will also be in the film.

00:07:42.000 Specifically, can you speak to that move?

00:07:44.000 Just the arrogance of a quote, only left cover could do this.

00:07:47.000 Oh, oh, I'm the liberal, I'm going to give you socialism.

00:07:50.000 It's not socialism to take the health care away from the troops and make them pay for it themselves with insurance.

00:07:56.000 Specifically speak to that.

00:07:57.000 Well, the idea is that we have this book by Daschle where he says that if you have an affliction, you better learn to live with your affliction.

00:08:05.000 This is the guy that Obama wanted to have as the great reformer of health and human services, until he was knocked out by the fact that he was a tax cheat.

00:08:12.000 He didn't pay $150,000 of taxes.

00:08:15.000 Most people would be in jail.

00:08:16.000 Daschle so far is not in jail.

00:08:18.000 Daschle, of course, is a creature of Citibank.

00:08:20.000 Citibank, the biggest employer in South Dakota, which sponsored his political career.

00:08:25.000 So this was the guy that Obama was going to bring in and give command over the wrecking of the health care system.

00:08:31.000 Again, with this left cover, I'll extend some kind of Band-Aids and aspirin coverage to people who don't have anything.

00:08:38.000 But in terms of the expensive technologies, those will be rationed and people will be expected to die again.

00:08:44.000 Again, if you're over 65, you're probably going to be a candidate to die. 1.00

00:08:48.000 If you are overweight, if you smoke, if you have any of these other things that mark you as a high-risk subject, Then they'd say, a cost-benefit analysis makes you a useless eater, and your responsibility is to suppress yourself for the bottom line of the system.

00:09:03.000 Meaning, private insurance companies that are piling in to take on parts of this stuff.

00:09:08.000 But specifically speak to the troops in that proposal.

00:09:11.000 It shouldn't be done.

00:09:11.000 Yeah, it's wrong.

00:09:12.000 I mean, specifically yourself, as we're taping for the film.

00:09:14.000 I mean, can you speak in your own words to even trying that with the troops?

00:09:18.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:09:19.000 This is what Bush did, right?

00:09:21.000 Bush was chiseling away and gouging away at veterans' benefits and stuff like this, right?

00:09:25.000 The VA hospital system and so forth was massively underfunded under Bush.

00:09:29.000 And Bush, of course, was rightly excoriated, right? 0.66

00:09:31.000 People said, you know, you're an irresponsible criminal. 0.52

00:09:35.000 Now Obama does it.

00:09:36.000 And either they don't notice, or they say, well, you know, he inherited this terrible situation.

00:09:41.000 So with left cover, isn't it amazing what you can do?

00:09:45.000 When you have a cheering section of left liberal Kool-Aid drinkers and loons, look what you can get away with!

00:09:51.000 And that's Obama. 0.92

00:09:52.000 I think Obama is the greatest con-artist of modern times.

00:09:56.000 Especially what he did today, right?

00:09:57.000 He looks at the camera and he says, I will fight for you.

00:10:01.000 I will fight for you.

00:10:02.000 I'm trying to find some way to save your industry.

00:10:04.000 I have a way.

00:10:05.000 Treat them like they're AIG. 0.96

00:10:07.000 Throw $20 or $30 billion at them, like you throw it at AIG.

00:10:11.000 We had Geithner a week ago coming forward saying, I want $100 billion now for derivatives, for toxic derivatives that have negative value.

00:10:21.000 And he said up to a trillion.

00:10:23.000 So there's up to a trillion more on top of the top.

00:10:26.000 So 1.7 trillion of Treasury money in addition to the 8-9 trillion of Federal Reserve lending for the banks.

00:10:33.000 But nothing, we can't get $20 billion, $30 billion for Ford and for Chrysler, General Motors and Ford.

00:10:37.000 I will say that again because we're taping for the film, but I want to be clear here.

00:10:41.000 They're now calling for $750 billion, admitting that The green taxes are to be paid into the banks.

00:10:51.000 So that's another $750 billion.

00:10:53.000 The IMF World Bank is saying they want $500 billion this week at the G20.

00:10:58.000 So explain that.

00:10:59.000 We're talking $30 to $50 to $1.

00:11:01.000 Yeah.

00:11:02.000 I think that's the general profile of Obama.

00:11:05.000 It's about $10 billion.

00:11:07.000 Eleven trillion.

00:11:07.000 Trillion.

00:11:08.000 Maybe twelve trillion by now.

00:11:10.000 For the banks.

00:11:11.000 Only for the banks.

00:11:12.000 For banks, stock brokerages, credit card companies, money markets, mutual funds.

00:11:18.000 Basically meaning all derivatives.

00:11:20.000 Derivatives bandits of all stripes.

00:11:23.000 And then compared to that, the useful spending in the stimulus package is about 300 billion, maybe 350 billion.

00:11:31.000 So call it 30 to 1, but we may be closer to 41.

00:11:34.000 40 to 1, we may be getting up to 50 to 1.

00:11:37.000 So for every dollar that the American people and production receive, We've got about $40 to $50 for the banking community.

00:11:45.000 So that's not socialism.

00:11:47.000 That's the corporate state of the Mussolini variety.

00:11:51.000 Okay, take your time.

00:11:52.000 Start over.

00:11:53.000 Get into what's really happening, what his incredible announcements mean, where he says, look, I know it's already been painful.

00:12:00.000 But quote, it's going to be even more painful concessions, but I'm going to help you.

00:12:05.000 I'm going to help you by taking you from $25 an hour to $12 an hour and robbing the benefits you've been paying in for.

00:12:12.000 So this is pension fund robbing.

00:12:14.000 We know Bush changed the rules six years ago so they could do this.

00:12:17.000 They're now moving to do it.

00:12:20.000 The auto industry today, Ford, Chrysler, General Motors, represents about a century of American history.

00:12:25.000 Think about all the generations of working families, UAW families that have contributed to that.

00:12:30.000 Think about the great labor battles of the 1930s, right?

00:12:32.000 The sit-down strikes with Walter Ruther and the UAW.

00:12:36.000 Think about the Toledo auto lights strike.

00:12:39.000 Think about the time that Henry Ford got the mayor of Flint to set up machine guns on an overpass so that a march of workers couldn't get close to the Ford plants, and that actually opened fire.

00:12:49.000 Machine-gunning American workers.

00:12:51.000 So this union had to be built on these struggles, and that's something that all of us have a stake in.

00:12:57.000 Then on the other side, of course, the technology, this is where the B-17s were built, the tanks were built in World War II.

00:13:05.000 These are the factories that stopped fascism around the world, right?

00:13:08.000 Built all the stuff that the Soviets used during World War II under Lend-Lease.

00:13:12.000 So all of that is now going to be destroyed.

00:13:15.000 Now, you're approaching something, I think, important.

00:13:18.000 The moment of thermodynamic collapse of the United States, so-called heat death of this economy.

00:13:25.000 You reach a point, and we've kind of had a brush with it in the last couple of days, right?

00:13:29.000 Suppose everything begins to fail at once.

00:13:31.000 Suppose the trains don't run, the trains come to a halt, the subways come to a halt, the airplanes have all got mechanical defects, they don't fly, the electric grid goes down, the system of food distribution begins to collapse, and everything implodes.

00:13:47.000 The only way you get out of that is by having industrial capabilities.

00:13:51.000 Now what Obama has done today, by saying, no money for General Motors, no money for Chrysler, essentially, Chrysler now has 30 days to live.

00:14:02.000 This is absolutely crazy.

00:14:03.000 So we're approaching the point of thermodynamic collapse.

00:14:06.000 Now let me just say something.

00:14:07.000 We've got to focus also not only on what they do, what do we want to do?

00:14:11.000 My program for the auto industry goes like this.

00:14:13.000 Nationalize them.

00:14:14.000 Protect them from the hyena creditors, especially Chrysler. 1.00

00:14:18.000 Chrysler is owned by a hedge fund, Cerberus Fund.

00:14:21.000 Rip it out of their hands, nationalize it.

00:14:24.000 Then at that point, kick out the current management and put in industrial engineers, who would be competent managers of production.

00:14:33.000 You've got to wipe out derivatives wherever they exist, right?

00:14:35.000 General Motors Acceptance Corporation is full of derivatives.

00:14:38.000 Wipe that out.

00:14:39.000 That's part of your general campaign to wipe out derivatives wherever they're found.

00:14:43.000 And then reconvert those plants.

00:14:44.000 Not to build gangrene cars, right?

00:14:46.000 Not to build these crazy things with batteries that go 30 miles at, you know, 20 miles an hour.

00:14:52.000 You could build nuclear plants.

00:14:54.000 You can build tractors for the third world.

00:14:57.000 You can build Maglev Railway.

00:14:58.000 You can build rolling stock for modern railroads.

00:15:02.000 And you can build Equipment for a space program.

00:15:04.000 If you're talking about exploration, colonization, and industrial production on the moon, Mars, and other nearby objects, you're going to need a ton of stuff.

00:15:11.000 And you see, people don't understand that either humans are upwardly mobile, we're either innovating, or we're collapsing.

00:15:18.000 And this is understood by the establishment.

00:15:20.000 When we come back, I want you to go through, like you did in that taping we did yesterday, the four different systems of, you know, getting... The Lautenbach.

00:15:29.000 Yes, let's go through that, because, you know, There's this schizophrenia and this mental gymnastics, this fraud that goes on out there.

00:15:37.000 I'm against big government.

00:15:39.000 Let me explain something.

00:15:40.000 I'm against big government financing to carry out eugenics and tell black women they can't have their man in the house to get money so that they can break down their families and have 90% of legitimacy, which is a government plan. 0.99

00:15:53.000 But I am for, if you're going to have government, the only thing it should be doing is building giant industrial bases, railways.

00:16:00.000 You know, I have a family that works in the railroad system.

00:16:02.000 We haven't had the railways fixed in a hundred years.

00:16:05.000 We have worse than third world countries. 1.00

00:16:07.000 Everything is rotting.

00:16:09.000 And so...

00:16:10.000 When you build roads, when you build industry, when you build factories, it then creates wealth for the people to then spend at your car dealership, to spend at your Mexican food restaurant, to spend at your clothier.

00:16:21.000 I mean, this is how real economies work instead of this post-industrial society where we do have Fascism.

00:16:29.000 All the money goes to private banks, then they use it to buy up industry and turn it off because they want a total feudal dictatorship to control populations.

00:16:38.000 This is Malthusian eugenics. 0.91

00:16:39.000 You agree.

00:16:40.000 It's in their own documents.

00:16:41.000 I research.

00:16:41.000 You're a scholar.

00:16:42.000 We come to the same conclusion.

00:16:43.000 So, I want to go through the Von Mies people and all of them, and I say that's preferable to the big state with the evil eugenicist in control. 0.97

00:16:53.000 But then what's preferable to that even more is, I think, kind of a hybrid with what we call the free market and what you're doing, because there is no such thing.

00:17:02.000 Here's these phony conservatives saying, we cannot give money to Ford and GM, we cannot give money to Chrysler, this is socialism, but then meanwhile they support trillions of dollars to foreign offshore banks with made-up derivative crap they just pulled out of the air with uh... it's not even a ponzi scheme it's it's a illusion like a magician and so the issue here is you have the false fiat economy the banking economy that's now forty percent of the world

00:17:32.000 When it should be about 1% of the world sucking like a black hole the whole real economy into it.

00:17:38.000 And so if we're going to have, imagine 12 trillion invested in infrastructure instantly, the economy would explode.

00:17:45.000 There'd be bulging money in all of our pockets.

00:17:47.000 There'd be a real economy.

00:17:48.000 So we're going to go over that versus what Obama's doing when we get back.

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00:21:29.000 Again, the Obama deception, the mask comes off, ladies and gentlemen, available at InfoWars.com.

00:21:34.000 Briefly, Webster, I don't want to get into the phony right-wing hypocrisy.

00:21:38.000 They're for the bonuses, they're for the trillions, but they're not for Ford and GM calling us socialists if we're for that.

00:21:43.000 This is the height of arrogance, but your take on the Obama deception?

00:21:47.000 I think it's a masterpiece.

00:21:48.000 I congratulate you and your team for putting it together.

00:21:51.000 It's extremely powerful, it's extremely timely.

00:21:54.000 It's the best political documentary to come out of the United States in years or decades, and I think it's going to have a tremendous effect in opening people's eyes, mainly the idea that the Obama people are trying to set up this fake Charade, right?

00:22:11.000 That you can choose between Obama on the one hand and Rush Limbaugh and these reactionaries and union busters and what have you on the other.

00:22:20.000 That's no choice.

00:22:21.000 My response to Obama and Limbaugh is to say, a plague on both your houses.

00:22:25.000 That's a Hobson's choice. 0.98

00:22:26.000 That's where you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

00:22:29.000 What this documentary does is to show there's another way out of this, another way to look at it.

00:22:34.000 And above all, to strip Obama of left cover.

00:22:38.000 He is an agent of Wall Street.

00:22:40.000 You can see it today.

00:22:41.000 He's carrying out a policy that's made up by Summers, Geithner, and indeed by Paul Adolph Volcker.

00:22:47.000 One of the people who did the most to create this collapse of the auto industry is Volcker, with a 22% prime rate, going back 30 years ago.

00:22:54.000 We're going to go over all that in the next hour.

00:22:56.000 We're going to have until 45 after now.

00:22:58.000 It's an extra time where you've got to go catch your plane.

00:23:00.000 But Webster, before we do that, specifically, we've been having private discussions about this.

00:23:05.000 Here they are.

00:23:06.000 uh... now approaching a bailout bigger than the entire gdp of the united states or close to a third of the world gdp in less than six months and limbaugh and obama are both four trillions to the banks they divert us with the billions in in in bonuses limbaugh says he's for that but what about the private shareholders who are really getting the lion's share of the trillions not just the billions and then they say but you're a socialist

00:23:33.000 If you want to help these evil, corrupt auto companies, and then there's endless discussions, it's a fad to bash the auto companies, and they're certainly not perfect, you know, on the news and in the culture.

00:23:43.000 Yeah, I don't think auto is perfect.

00:23:45.000 Waggoner was forced out last night, and I think Waggoner was forced out because he was somebody who grew up in General Motors, and he might have fought to defend the idea of having an industrial economy, right?

00:23:54.000 Of having jobs.

00:23:55.000 So, let's look at it again.

00:23:58.000 AIG got $160 billion from the U.S.

00:24:02.000 government.

00:24:03.000 AIG. 0.92

00:24:04.000 To bail out one hedge fund in London.

00:24:06.000 They had created $3 trillion of derivatives.

00:24:09.000 So AIG financial products.

00:24:11.000 Now, who got that money?

00:24:13.000 About $10 to $12 billion.

00:24:15.000 Went to Deutsche Bank of Germany, Societe Generale of France, and Barclays Bank of Britain.

00:24:21.000 So that's about $35 billion for bankers in foreign countries.

00:24:26.000 And that's the money, if you had that $35 billion, you could easily save Detroit for a couple of years.

00:24:31.000 And generally speaking, $10 trillion for the banks compares to $20 billion for food stamps.

00:24:38.000 So you can get $115 a month of food stamps if you're unemployed, if you're an individual or a family getting $250 a month in food stamps.

00:24:47.000 Obama's going to raise that by about 10%.

00:24:49.000 $40 billion goes to prolonging unemployment benefits, so you get a few more weeks on the dole.

00:24:55.000 And at the same time, the trillions are flowing, and above all, a lot of the recipients are in foreign countries.

00:25:01.000 If Barclays, Deutsche Bank and Societe Generale are so important, how come Gordon Brown, Monsieur Sarkozy and Madame Merkel don't save them and bail them out themselves?

00:25:12.000 This is absolutely crazy.

00:25:14.000 What we're being told is that globalized bankers and their web of derivatives across the world, again it's 1.5 quadrillion of derivatives, are more important than the jobs of 3 to 5 million Americans.

00:25:26.000 If you wipe out Detroit, the American living standard falls by about 25%.

00:25:30.000 Stay there.

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00:27:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:27:15.000 Webster Griffin-Tyberly is our guest in studio for another 45 minutes and we'll get updates from the shantytowns being converted to FEMA camps in California with two of our reporters on scene, Rob Dew and Jason Douglas.

00:27:28.000 Okay, Webster, we were ranting during that one-minute break.

00:27:32.000 I mean, just in summation, I don't want you to break it down in your own words, Well, you go ahead.

00:27:37.000 We were just talking about it.

00:27:38.000 It's this incredible double standard. 0.92

00:27:41.000 It's absolute hypocrisy, absolute double standard. 1.00

00:27:44.000 Obama is the greatest con artist of our time. 0.96

00:27:47.000 He says to the auto industry, you guys have to prove viability.

00:27:52.000 You have to show me a model that gets you profitable.

00:27:55.000 They submit a plan and he says, this is not good enough.

00:27:58.000 I'm giving you 30 more days or I'm giving you a little bit more time.

00:28:01.000 Now, notice what happens when Citibank needs 20 billion, they get it right away.

00:28:07.000 They don't have to prove anything.

00:28:09.000 They don't have to tell where the money is going.

00:28:11.000 They don't have to say how many billions go for bonuses.

00:28:14.000 They don't have to say how much of it goes to Dubai or other foreign countries.

00:28:19.000 The duplicity of Obama couldn't be more evident.

00:28:23.000 We had last week Geithner coming forward with another $100 billion followed by really another trillion for derivatives only.

00:28:31.000 And now we're being told that the automobile industry has not gone far enough towards proving its viability.

00:28:39.000 And the sharks are coming in, saying, we're going to make you break down, we're going to take your pension funds, we're going to make you be sold out to foreigners, you know, the scrap, the husk, and then meanwhile, once you talk about this in your own words, then the banks flush with all this money, they won't even, the money given to them, they won't even loan it to the auto industry.

00:28:58.000 You see, the whole point of the TARP, right, the bailout of last October, the original $700 billion, we were told, you've got to have a viable banking system to provide credit for the economy.

00:28:58.000 Yeah.

00:29:10.000 Well, $700 billion has been put in, and Geithner is now promising up to another trillion more, so that's almost $2 trillion.

00:29:17.000 Now, I want to know, We're told that Chrysler and General Motors need financing.

00:29:21.000 Where is JPMorgan Chase?

00:29:24.000 They got $25 billion out of the TARP.

00:29:27.000 Where is Citibank?

00:29:28.000 They've been refinanced twice and counting.

00:29:31.000 At least $40 billion has gone into Citibank.

00:29:34.000 How come they're not lending to Ford and Chrysler and GM?

00:29:38.000 How about Bank of America?

00:29:39.000 The zombie banks are taking the money from the public till and they're not lending it.

00:29:45.000 I would also add these things like Circuit City, right?

00:29:47.000 600 stores, 35,000 jobs.

00:29:48.000 thirty five thousand jobs where were those banks that are cashing in on the top gravy train right the big bailout money they're not lending why are we supporting these banks the whole idea of this process think about it at the beginning we were told this is not a bailout of wall street this is a bailout of main street we want to make that money available to main street well detroit is main street detroit is everybody's main street the midwest industrial economy around the great lakes is the heart of this country

00:30:15.000 You rip that out, this country goes into thermodynamic collapse.

00:30:19.000 Living standards will collapse.

00:30:21.000 The level of morbidity and mortality in the population will skyrocket.

00:30:26.000 In other words, millions of people will be on their way towards much earlier deaths than they would have had otherwise.

00:30:31.000 See, Limbaugh's record is the following.

00:30:31.000 Absolutely.

00:30:33.000 Limbaugh says, I'm going to focus on the $20 billion for food stamps.

00:30:36.000 And they don't have to tell the Congress where the money went.

00:30:38.000 Bernanke won't say where it goes.

00:30:40.000 But then meanwhile, loans to GM, loans to Chrysler, that is socialism.

00:30:45.000 Absolutely.

00:30:46.000 See, Limbaugh's record is the following.

00:30:49.000 Limbaugh says, I'm going to focus on the $20 billion for food stamps.

00:30:53.000 I'm going to focus on $50 billion for aid to people facing foreclosure.

00:30:58.000 He doesn't care about the $10 trillion that went to the banks.

00:31:03.000 He's not really, you know, He's not in an uproar about that.

00:31:07.000 He's got a class-conscious standard.

00:31:09.000 In other words, he represents Wall Street.

00:31:11.000 He's somebody who was obviously promoted by William F. Buckley, somebody who was introduced to Henry Kissinger at an early age, who was brought in with the help of Roger Ailes and others. 0.87

00:31:21.000 So he's basically telling you that the problem with Obama is that Obama is taking your money and giving it to the deadbeats and the losers and the underachievers.

00:31:31.000 And he talks about the achievers, the achieving class, are of course the bankers in Limbaugh's words.

00:31:36.000 He had a woman call him up the other day saying... Stay there, we gotta break.

00:31:38.000 Come back and tell the story.

00:31:40.000 This is very important and we'll break down what's...

00:31:42.000 The good plan to fix things versus what their plan is.

00:31:45.000 We'll profile both of those, Webster, Griffin, Tarpley, as we watch the world slide into deep depression and the bankers couldn't be happier.

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00:34:55.000 From his Central Texas Command Center deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:35:02.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:35:07.000 Okay Webster Tarbley in studio.

00:35:08.000 A lot of key info to cover.

00:35:10.000 Finish up with...

00:35:12.000 How Obama and Limbaugh, they're really on the same team.

00:35:16.000 They just create the illusion of choice and that a fight is going on.

00:35:20.000 Obama props up Limbaugh with a phony right wing.

00:35:22.000 Limbaugh, as White House Memo says, props up Obama with his supporters because they say, well, we hate Obama, then Limbaugh's saying he's helping the poor when in reality he isn't.

00:35:33.000 He's imploding the economy, going into shock therapy.

00:35:35.000 So this is how this mind game works.

00:35:37.000 Break it down.

00:35:38.000 Well, Obama is not the new Roosevelt.

00:35:41.000 He's the new Carter.

00:35:42.000 He's not the new New Deal.

00:35:43.000 He's the new Malez, except that the handlers of Obama, the Brzezinskis and Volkers and so forth, have learned from Carter that you can't just go with austerity, sacrifice, blood, sweat and tears, Malez and all this stuff. 0.66

00:35:57.000 You've got to have some window dressing up front.

00:35:59.000 So Obama, also to placate various Democrats in the House and Congress in general, Obama has put some Pieces, some crumbs, some chum, right, have been thrown up front.

00:36:11.000 $20 billion for food stamps, $40 billion for unemployment benefits, maybe $50 to $60 billion for infrastructure.

00:36:19.000 Now, the US infrastructure deficit is maybe $5 trillion, $7 trillion, $8 trillion.

00:36:25.000 Instead, we get 50 to 60 billion of infrastructure from Obama.

00:36:30.000 So this is basically camouflage and window dressing.

00:36:33.000 But notice what Limbaugh does.

00:36:35.000 Limbaugh attacks the cape, not the matador.

00:36:38.000 Limbaugh attacks these penny anti-camouflage things that are set up there in the foreground, and he ignores the fact that you have all of this money going to the bank.

00:36:50.000 So this is a charade.

00:36:52.000 In other words, this is a dog and pony show that's now being set up.

00:36:56.000 Uh, Limbaugh says Obama's a socialist, and he's actually helping Obama.

00:37:01.000 Every time Limbaugh attacks Obama as a socialist, or somebody who's helping the deadbeats, helping the poor, helping the losers, that helps Obama, because a large number of people say, well, you know, under Limbaugh, we'd be left with nothing but our eyes to cry with.

00:37:15.000 So, this is a terrible, terrible situation.

00:37:18.000 Now, you asked before, What can you do in this situation?

00:37:22.000 How do you get out of a depression?

00:37:24.000 There are four possibilities that have been tried.

00:37:27.000 One is what the Republicans say.

00:37:29.000 They say deflation.

00:37:31.000 They say... Well let me stop you.

00:37:32.000 Go back to the economic theory when this was developed.

00:37:34.000 These four systems.

00:37:35.000 Okay, well this is a speech by this guy Lautenbach to the Friedrich List Society in Berlin in September of 1931.

00:37:42.000 So, Germany is sliding rapidly into depression.

00:37:45.000 The British have just defaulted on gold September 1931.

00:37:48.000 The world depression is getting really deep and they're looking at the threat of Hitler. 0.56

00:37:55.000 These guys in the German Central Bank said, well, what should we do?

00:37:59.000 And Lautenbach gave this speech to this famous meeting, where he said, look, one way would be deflation.

00:38:05.000 Cut the budget, cut public expenditure, try to balance the budget, let everybody go bankrupt.

00:38:12.000 This is essentially what Andrew Mellon was talking about, the guy who ran Harding, Coolidge and Hoover, when Andrew Mellon said, liquidate stocks, liquidate bonds, liquidate real estate, liquidate labor.

00:38:23.000 Too bad if you die, right?

00:38:25.000 Or Schumpeter says, creative destruction.

00:38:27.000 Well, if you get destroyed, you're not going to feel very creative.

00:38:30.000 So, that obviously says Lautenbach, that's no good.

00:38:33.000 What's the other one?

00:38:34.000 Well, there's the Keynesian one, what later became the Keynesian one, which is, have a consumer-led recovery.

00:38:40.000 Give people money, let them go out and buy refrigerators and shoes and electronics and so forth.

00:38:47.000 Um, the problem with that is, once you've done it, you've done it once, you have the same problem next year.

00:38:53.000 In other words, it might give you a very mild, immediate lift, but it doesn't solve anything durable.

00:38:57.000 And then it leads into inflation.

00:38:59.000 Leads into inflation.

00:39:00.000 And this is, I think this is what the House Democrats think of, people who are Keynesian, who really are Keynesian, think this.

00:39:07.000 The other example would be the French Popular Front of 1932.

00:39:10.000 And the bankers like that because you get shoes and refrigerators and iPods, but then they get the interest on that debt.

00:39:17.000 But go ahead.

00:39:18.000 Yeah, but as Lautenbach says, this consumer-led stuff, it doesn't get you anywhere.

00:39:23.000 Whatever you spend, it gives you a little bit of a lift, but then you're back in the Depression.

00:39:27.000 The third one is the hot money alternative.

00:39:29.000 Just start the printing presses, do what Bernanke is doing now, right?

00:39:33.000 He's helicopter Ben Bernanke.

00:39:35.000 Because of this speech where he says, if you have a depression, you take bales of dollar bills and put them on the front lawns of bankers, and then you reflate the system with hot money.

00:39:45.000 And as Lautenbach says, that doesn't work, because a lot of that money will flee overseas as hot money.

00:39:51.000 And that's what we've had with the TARP, right?

00:39:52.000 The money went to Barclays of Britain, to Deutsche Bank of Germany, to Société Générale of France, investments in Dubai, in India, in Israel, and the US automobile industry is collapsing.

00:40:03.000 So that doesn't work.

00:40:05.000 Then, says Lautenbach, what is left is building infrastructure.

00:40:09.000 In other words, permanent, valuable upgrades and improvements to the capital stock of your nation.

00:40:16.000 Long-term, durable investments in rail systems, transportation, electricity generation, canals, locks, water systems, electronic infrastructure of all sorts.

00:40:29.000 And he says, the problem with that is simply the banks need to be supported by a national bank.

00:40:36.000 Let's say the United States decides to build 50,000 miles of maglev rail, and we want to have a railroad from New York to San Francisco, we want to have a northern transcontinental, a southern transcontinental, and then we have New York to San Francisco.

00:40:50.000 You'd issue bonds.

00:40:52.000 The bonds would be bought by banks, in other words, the states, so the federal government could issue bonds for this.

00:40:58.000 As long as the person who buys the bonds can turn around as a banker and say to the Federal Reserve, I want money for that.

00:41:05.000 In other words, I'm giving you a transcontinental maglev bond priced at $100, you're going to give me $99.

00:41:10.000 In other words, you're going to discount that bond.

00:41:13.000 In that case, you have nationalized the Federal Reserve.

00:41:17.000 You have forced the Federal Reserve to stop doing what they're doing.

00:41:21.000 What they do now is everything for the bankers, nothing for production.

00:41:24.000 And let's explain... Turn yourself on your head, Bernanke.

00:41:26.000 Let's turn Bernanke on his head and say... But let's explain... Let's stop.

00:41:28.000 Let's explain this trick, because this is subtlety.

00:41:30.000 People don't get it.

00:41:32.000 This is the subtlety to all of this.

00:41:34.000 The media is claiming that they're covertly nationalizing everything.

00:41:37.000 It's the opposite.

00:41:38.000 Private banks through the private Federal Reserve, working with their revolving door minions in the Treasury, are transferring everything offshore into their coffers so as things implode they can buy up goods.

00:41:51.000 So it's a predatory, kind of cannibalistic economy.

00:41:57.000 We're really talking about doing the opposite, truly nationalizing it, and then freeing up that power of credit to then turn, you know, human dreams loose, and then we'll have literal milk and honey.

00:42:09.000 Well, yeah, we can certainly get out of a depression and go in the direction of that.

00:42:13.000 The thing is to nationalize the Federal Reserve, to make it a Bureau of the Treasury.

00:42:18.000 Right now, everything the Federal Reserve does is decided on by unelected, unaccountable, anonymous bankers, especially in those Federal Reserve districts, right?

00:42:28.000 A couple of weeks ago, Helicopter Ben dumped a trillion dollars on the market by buying government securities.

00:42:34.000 That's the Federal Open Market Committee.

00:42:36.000 A lot of people on the Federal Open Market Committee come from these regional Federal Reserve banks.

00:42:41.000 They have never even been approved by the Senate.

00:42:43.000 They're just private bankers Exercising, usurping this power of bankers over the government.

00:42:50.000 And that's already, I think, a terrible thing.

00:42:52.000 And Limbaugh calls that a free market, having private bankers rob you.

00:42:57.000 I would say, let's stop talking about free markets.

00:42:59.000 I've never seen one.

00:43:00.000 I've never heard of one.

00:43:01.000 I don't think there's been a free market for five or ten thousand years.

00:43:04.000 No, no, but that's the point I'm making, is they keep calling this freedom and capitalism and all of this, and it's not.

00:43:12.000 Real economy down here and above it, these people with God-like financial powers who just create tens of trillions of nothing and buy up whatever they want, and then they call it free market as they tax us to breathe reality into their false reality.

00:43:27.000 Yeah, when Limbaugh says free market, he means the sanctity of the 1.5 quadrillion dollar derivatives bubble, which is a product of the free market.

00:43:37.000 Remember, the derivatives were illegal from 1936 to 1982.

00:43:41.000 There had been an attempt to corner the wheat price using options in the Depression.

00:43:48.000 So, during the New Deal, 1936, Ban option trading of agricultural commodities for any reason.

00:43:55.000 So that's a long period when we were doing much better where derivatives were illegal.

00:44:00.000 Then from in 1982 it was legalized by Ronald Reagan.

00:44:04.000 Then we get Wendy Graham comes on the scene in 1992. 0.98

00:44:07.000 She says we're going to have a safe harbor for derivatives.

00:44:10.000 Then there's a big fight under Clinton.

00:44:12.000 Brooksley Bourne says we ought to at least make these reportable.

00:44:15.000 And then Larry Summers, who's now running the Obama regime economic line, Larry Summers gets on the phone with Brooksley Bourne and says, how dare you, how dare you call for the reportability of derivatives?

00:44:27.000 So with the help of Greenspan and Rubin and Summers and now the current crew, the Geissners and Paulsons and so forth, The idea is that the derivatives have become the center of the economy, but they don't dare say this.

00:44:43.000 They say, toxic assets, counterparties, unwind, exotic instruments, complex derivatives, but they generally don't want to say derivatives.

00:44:52.000 It's the center of the black hole.

00:44:56.000 And then they parade around in priest robes saying, we're the magical Federal Reserve, you can't question us, you're a communist, you're a communist, when really they're literally the people feeding everything into their fraud.

00:45:06.000 It's like counterfeiting with derivatives. 0.99

00:45:08.000 They just make up crap. 0.87

00:45:09.000 And now that it's all falling in, they say, you've got to have your taxes raised to pay for this. 0.97

00:45:14.000 And they call that free market, as Obama announces in the Wall Street Journal, they're going to gut the whole tax code to go after even the poorest people with basically no tax exemptions on your house, education, nothing.

00:45:25.000 And then they call this free market.

00:45:31.000 We know how to get out of a depression.

00:45:33.000 You get out of a depression by doing things like, first of all, wiping out derivatives.

00:45:36.000 They were illegal.

00:45:37.000 Make them illegal again.

00:45:39.000 Delete them. 0.97

00:45:39.000 Shred them. 0.97

00:45:40.000 Get rid of them. 0.98

00:45:41.000 Ban adjustable rate mortgages.

00:45:42.000 Stop foreclosures.

00:45:43.000 Arrest the bankers.

00:45:45.000 Arrest somebody like Geithner, who was sitting at the Federal Reserve there in New York City and arranged to get that money for AIG, and Paulson from Goldman Sachs, who made sure that the TARP was designed so that the biggest single beneficiary of the TARP so far seems to be Goldman Sachs, his company.

00:46:05.000 So he's got colossal conflicts of interest.

00:46:08.000 This guy, Summers, also, his role in bringing the derivatives plague into the world.

00:46:13.000 And don't forget Greenspan.

00:46:15.000 So, get rid of derivatives.

00:46:17.000 Outlaw hedge funds.

00:46:18.000 AIG is two things.

00:46:20.000 AIG is a hedge fund in London that sells derivatives.

00:46:23.000 Let's never have that again.

00:46:24.000 Let's ban hedge funds.

00:46:26.000 Let's wipe out derivatives.

00:46:27.000 Let's stop foreclosures.

00:46:28.000 You want to stop foreclosures?

00:46:30.000 Easy.

00:46:31.000 Make it illegal.

00:46:31.000 Federal law.

00:46:32.000 No more foreclosures.

00:46:33.000 Five years or the duration of the crisis.

00:46:36.000 Or it will continue to infect and create a black hole in what's left of the real economy.

00:46:41.000 Yeah, you can work that out later.

00:46:42.000 Stay there, though.

00:46:42.000 And then it's Stone Age.

00:46:44.000 And I don't want to hear this as socialism, folks, because 12 trillion of the bankers, that is just highway robbery.

00:46:50.000 And we need to arrest these people.

00:46:51.000 And we have to start thinking about that idea.

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00:50:53.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:51:03.000 It's Alex Jones, and the GCN Radio Network.

00:51:08.000 Alright, Luke Rodowski got arraigned, got out of jail today, and then they all went to college.

00:51:14.000 They're like, oh, we can come on at this time.

00:51:17.000 The poor lady, I've cancelled the interview with her about the prison problem twice. 1.00

00:51:20.000 I don't want to do it a third time.

00:51:23.000 So we'll have Luke pop in during that last hour for like five minutes with her, if he can do it.

00:51:28.000 People all want to know what happened with that.

00:51:30.000 So that's coming up.

00:51:31.000 Go ahead guys, call Rob Dew and tell him they're going to be on at 1 today for about 15 minutes with the update from the camps out in California.

00:51:39.000 The tent city is now trying to move him into a camp.

00:51:42.000 So that's coming up.

00:51:43.000 Partly he's going to be with us until 50 after and then he's got to go catch his plane.

00:51:47.000 Webster, look, for viewers out there, for people out there that are watching and listening to us right now.

00:51:56.000 If you want to go after the bankers, we can politically all day wait for the next congressional election or try to wait for another president and hope.

00:52:04.000 But I agree with Ron Paul.

00:52:05.000 We have to criminally go after them.

00:52:07.000 They've all broken all sorts of laws.

00:52:09.000 They've involved in so many different types of embezzling and conflicts of interest.

00:52:14.000 And when you start those criminal investigations with grand juries, when you start those indictments, then more and more of them will blow the whistle and you'll find out the whole crew is as bad as Bernie Madoff or worse.

00:52:25.000 And so I see politically, and by the way, it's a risk to come out and make films and radio shows and say this, if people don't play games, because they know this is the most effective thing, is to start beating the drum.

00:52:35.000 Instead of having the bankers that engineered this crisis, posing as our savior, saying, new bank of the world, currency, dictatorship, you know, currency control, Instead of them getting more power out of the crisis they've created, we need to call for their investigation and indictment, and then that would politically bring them down and identify them as the criminals and the bad guys, and this could be a peaceful, bloodless revolution.

00:53:03.000 Now I see that as the best chance to end this in a more peaceable manner and not go too much deeper into the depression.

00:53:10.000 Probably not going to happen, but if we try, it could happen, because what they're doing is obviously so criminal and they're so unpopular.

00:53:16.000 98% are against them in every major poll you look at.

00:53:18.000 Some are even 99%.

00:53:20.000 So that's my basic thrust and my idea to circumnavigate the corrupt political structure, get state grand juries, federal grand juries, To go after these bankers already?

00:53:31.000 A lot of them are falling.

00:53:32.000 A lot of these hedge fund guys and scammers are.

00:53:35.000 Fully discredit them, because if you don't, they're going to expand their takeover through the crisis they've created even more.

00:53:41.000 So Webster, in your own words, because we're making a film here, restate it, arresting them.

00:53:47.000 They deserve it.

00:53:48.000 This is a way to truly, politically discredit them immediately.

00:53:53.000 I think the possibility of criminal action is certainly there.

00:53:57.000 Let's just go back to the Great Depression, the 1930s.

00:53:59.000 You had these famous Pekora Committee hearings.

00:54:02.000 The guy's name was Charles Mitchell.

00:54:05.000 He was the head of Citibank, the same Citibank that brought you Rubin and Summers and Geithner and the rest of this clique.

00:54:13.000 So, Pekora hearings, Congressman Pekora called in this guy Mitchell, and essentially what it was is that Citibank had manipulated stock prices in the crash of 1929.

00:54:23.000 And this got a big, big public exposure.

00:54:27.000 And that, I think, was a kind of a cultural change, a moment of cultural change when people realized that these bankers had created tremendous crimes.

00:54:35.000 Now, if you look at more recent times, I think the best bet, realistically, is an ambitious politician at the state level.

00:54:42.000 Look at this guy, Spitzer, in New York State.

00:54:44.000 Now, he actually did quite a number of cases, and that's why they had to get rid of him.

00:54:48.000 They didn't want Spitzer sitting in Albany while Wall Street was going through the situation we have now.

00:54:55.000 Look at Andrew Cuomo, certainly an ambitious politician, with many problems of his own, but he seems to have latched on to AIG.

00:55:03.000 Maybe there are other state attorneys general in other states that would like to join in on this, because they'd be performing a very important public service.

00:55:11.000 It's going to take somebody who wants to build a career, right?

00:55:14.000 Yeah, but let's be clear about Spencer.

00:55:17.000 Hundreds of counties and grand juries and others moving in unison, or they'll kill them, they'll set them up, they watch them for one thing they do wrong.

00:55:26.000 Spitzer, of course, as you know, had written an editorial in a major newspaper saying, this is criminal with derivatives and these banks, we need to go after them.

00:55:32.000 And they said, buddy, you saw a hooker, the FBI's been watching you for years, we've been watching your bank account, we're going to bring out even the details of the dirty stuff you did with the hooker.

00:55:41.000 I mean, as if that wasn't an obvious political hit, that was also a message to everybody going into their takeover, that you mess with us, we're going to bring any skeletons out of the closet.

00:55:51.000 Right.

00:55:52.000 But I think now that the rising populist economic rage against these Wall Street exploiters and raptors and so forth, the hedge fund hyenas, I think that we're going through a cultural shift Where the possibility of actually doing something in this direction.

00:56:09.000 I would go back and look at the Greenspan Federal Reserve.

00:56:12.000 Look at the clique that re-imposed derivatives.

00:56:15.000 All right, stay there.

00:56:16.000 I'm not going to interrupt when you come back.

00:56:17.000 I want you to restart everything you just said, and then bring in all the information in one big piece here for people.

00:56:23.000 Because you want solutions?

00:56:24.000 This is it.

00:56:25.000 State sovereignty, declaring 10th Amendment sovereignty, arresting bankers, going after the criminals.

00:56:31.000 They're obviously publicly criminals, gang raping us financially publicly.

00:56:35.000 You need to get the cry and hue going. 0.89

00:56:37.000 Forget about the bonuses, that's a distraction.

00:56:40.000 Arrest the criminal bankers or we're slaves.

00:56:44.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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01:00:02.000 Everybody knows that the days are loaded.

01:00:06.000 Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed.

01:00:11.000 Everybody knows the war is over.

01:00:15.000 My wife's trying to get me to go see Leonard Cohen Wednesday night.

01:00:20.000 He's coming to town.

01:00:21.000 I'm a fan.

01:00:22.000 We were given tickets by folks in the music industry here in town.

01:00:26.000 The question is getting a babysitter, Webster.

01:00:29.000 See, I work so much, I just want to go collapse on the couch.

01:00:32.000 But we've been working straight through the weekend.

01:00:34.000 We appreciate Webster doing four, five, six hours of taping with us today.

01:00:38.000 Webster's just going to be here for the rest of the hour.

01:00:40.000 Luke Radowsky's going to come out of class at the start of the next hour with some of the others that were arrested.

01:00:44.000 Then we'll get a report on the tent cities coming up.

01:00:48.000 So Webster will leave here at 1.

01:00:49.000 We'll give you time to get to the airport, several hours to do that.

01:00:52.000 We want to get you there early, though, because Webster, they cancelled flights with storms, he was stuck at the airport basically all night, got no sleep, still came in, did it all.

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01:03:04.000 Okay, Webster Tarpley, for the 23 minutes we have left, I'm going to attempt to just sit back here and let you roll, but we were getting into the fact of arresting these people.

01:03:16.000 That's the right thing to do.

01:03:18.000 They're clearly criminals.

01:03:19.000 They've broken all these laws.

01:03:20.000 Let's go through some of that.

01:03:22.000 This is the way, because they've got the political system under their control, we've got to move on them for their criminal activities. 0.91

01:03:27.000 We've got to move with Ron Paul for the audit of the private Federal Reserve.

01:03:30.000 We've got to point out that in Congressional testimony, time and time again, The Federal Reserve and others say, we won't tell you where the money went.

01:03:38.000 This is outrageous stuff going past the level of lunacy.

01:03:43.000 This is political, you know, excalibur we have to crush these people.

01:03:48.000 They've committed crimes publicly. 0.92

01:03:49.000 They're running wild.

01:03:52.000 It's either them or us.

01:03:53.000 Webster Tarpley.

01:03:54.000 Well, you've got the precedent of the Peckera hearings back in the 1930s where they essentially put Charles Mitchell of Citibank on the hot seat and he had to tell how he had rigged the stock market and stolen people's money during the crash of 1929 and following.

01:04:09.000 You've also had the interesting precedent set more recently by Governor Eliot Spitzer when he was the...

01:04:16.000 The Attorney General there in the state of New York, even Cuomo now, going into AIG, and I think there's a lot of investigation that has to be done there.

01:04:25.000 There's this proverb that you can't tell who's swimming naked until the tide goes out, and the tide of course is the crash And as the economy crashes down, you're going to find a lot of people who were thought to be masters of human destiny, financial geniuses, and whiz kids, turn out to be embezzlers, derivatives, merchants, and so forth.

01:04:46.000 But I think at the highest level, it's audit the Federal Reserve.

01:04:49.000 They have never been audited.

01:04:51.000 That will lead us back to Paul Adolph Volcker, who is now sitting in the Obama White House.

01:04:56.000 He's, I think, one of the most influential and powerful people there.

01:05:00.000 You've got Greenspan, who has now confessed that his entire economic line was completely wrong, that he didn't understand economics and screwed it up terribly.

01:05:12.000 And then you've got Bernanke, Helicopter Ben.

01:05:15.000 Now, that gets us into the current time.

01:05:18.000 Under Bush, we had Hank Paulson, Hanky Panky Paulson.

01:05:22.000 From Goldman Sachs.

01:05:24.000 And he is the one who decreed this $700 billion original bailout, the so-called TARP.

01:05:31.000 And that, we see now in retrospect, that Goldman Sachs, his company, was not only the beneficiary of about $20 billion directly from the TARP, but in terms of the bailout of AIG, Ten to fifteen billion of that also went to Goldman Sachs, in addition to the foreign banks, Barclays, Societe Generale and Deutsche Bank.

01:05:53.000 So, what's the conflict of interest on Hank Paulson as Secretary of the Treasury?

01:05:58.000 And remember, this is the guy who demanded dictatorial power to use that money in any way he wanted.

01:06:06.000 Now you've got Geithner continuing the same policy.

01:06:09.000 Geithner was in the same room with Paulson Back in September of last year when Lehman Brothers and AIG and Merrill and so forth went under, now you've got Geithner who says he wants to be able to seize any company he wants for any reason he wants.

01:06:26.000 Now, what's their policy?

01:06:27.000 I would say the designated winners in this corporate state that we have now are Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase.

01:06:37.000 Those are the fortress of the derivatives financiers.

01:06:42.000 Other institutions, Bank of America, Citibank, are being protected, but they're going to be, I think, likely to go down first.

01:06:52.000 Geithner is obviously feeding viable companies, his idea is to feed viable companies into these bankrupt banks.

01:06:59.000 Take the question of Washington Mutual.

01:07:01.000 Now this was a viable savings bank, the largest in the country, with a very large deposit base.

01:07:09.000 And last September, under Paulson, This was seized.

01:07:12.000 It was seized, actually, by Sheila Bair, another very important person.

01:07:17.000 B-A-I-R. 0.99

01:07:19.000 She's the head of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.

01:07:22.000 She was kept over from the Bush era into the Obama era. 0.94

01:07:27.000 She decreed the seizure of Washington Mutual and fed that into J.P. 0.84

01:07:32.000 J.P.

01:07:32.000 Morgan.

01:07:33.000 Morgan, of course, had also gotten Bair Stearns sort of engulfed into it.

01:07:39.000 But the idea was that the deposit base and the assets of Washington Mutual could be used to prop up JPMorgan Chase.

01:07:46.000 Now, I think that Sheila Bair is actually violating the laws in perhaps the most flagrant way. 1.00

01:07:52.000 You look at JPMorgan Chase, Citibank, Bank of America, a couple of others, Wells Fargo probably, Bank of New York, Mellon.

01:08:00.000 Those are zombie banks.

01:08:02.000 What does it mean to be a zombie bank?

01:08:04.000 It means that you are technically bankrupt and insolvent.

01:08:08.000 And what has to happen is the FDIC has to come in and seize you.

01:08:13.000 Put you through, essentially, Chapter 11 bankruptcy, or maybe Chapter 7 bankruptcy.

01:08:17.000 In other words, to wind you up definitively.

01:08:20.000 And that's what the FDIC has to do.

01:08:22.000 There are laws.

01:08:23.000 I think that Sheila Bair is right now violating the laws that would normally dictate that she would seize the four or five or six biggest banks, money center banks, derivatives banks, in Wall Street. 0.99

01:08:35.000 Every Friday, they announce some little bank, right?

01:08:38.000 Podunk Center, Oklahoma, bank seized.

01:08:41.000 Florida, bank seized.

01:08:43.000 Oregon, bank seized.

01:08:44.000 North Dakota.

01:08:45.000 But these are very small community banks.

01:08:48.000 Why are we not applying the same laws to the huge zombie banks, especially Wall Street, and seize them?

01:08:55.000 I think that's another area that has to be investigated.

01:08:57.000 But you've got a massive conflict of interest, and corruption, and indeed criminal incompetence.

01:09:03.000 So I think there's a lot to be done in that area.

01:09:05.000 Okay, I want to go back.

01:09:07.000 Because you got cut off on the break when you were really getting into the political solution, and Justice be done, may the heavens fall.

01:09:14.000 The way to stop them the quickest is to discredit them because they're all a bunch of made-offs or worse, as you said, running scams.

01:09:20.000 Then you have Geithner literally feeding more than $12 billion of the money directly into Goldman Sachs, and then that's not discussed, how that's then served out as bonuses.

01:09:33.000 And so right there, that is serious criminal activity, but because they control the federal regulators, they're put up there on a pedestal as our saviors, when meanwhile it was Summers and Rubin and others who are openly running the White House right now with Geithner as their minion, former New York Fed head, telling us how they're going to set up a world government to save us.

01:09:51.000 So I want to specifically get into that.

01:09:54.000 Go ahead.

01:09:55.000 Well, if you look at the Federal Reserve, they've put out about $10 trillion of credit for these derivatives banks.

01:10:03.000 I think you can understand this best if you compare it to what they should be doing.

01:10:08.000 What you should be doing is to say, these bloated, cancerous, speculative paper values are hopeless.

01:10:15.000 We're in a worldwide derivatives panic.

01:10:17.000 We're walking around in the negative curvature on the inside of a collapsing bubble.

01:10:23.000 And common sense won't work under these circumstances.

01:10:26.000 You know, normally a triangle adds up to 180 degrees if you measure the angles.

01:10:30.000 But when you're in the inside of negative curvature, the triangle is not 180 degrees.

01:10:36.000 It's going to be less.

01:10:36.000 So common sense won't help.

01:10:39.000 Therefore, we have got to do something out of the ordinary.

01:10:42.000 So, what you've got to do is figure all of those paper values are gone.

01:10:47.000 Forget them.

01:10:47.000 There's nothing you can do about it.

01:10:49.000 There's nothing you can do about stock prices, housing prices, above all, derivatives prices.

01:10:54.000 They're coming down.

01:10:55.000 There's no force in the universe that could stop them from coming down.

01:10:58.000 The panic has started and there's no way out of it.

01:11:02.000 And remember, this is all being pumped up.

01:11:03.000 by future generations and currently having $12 trillion in the last six months and growing, tacked onto our backs as they raise myriads of state, local, federal, international taxes to pay it.

01:11:15.000 Again, either we go to the pain of this collapsing now and then rebuild it, or we feed everything into the vortex.

01:11:21.000 Yeah, in other words, there's no way to keep those prices up.

01:11:27.000 In other words, there's nothing you can do about housing prices.

01:11:29.000 Forget about housing prices.

01:11:31.000 401K is gone, unless you can somehow get it out.

01:11:33.000 They stole it!

01:11:34.000 IRA is gone.

01:11:35.000 What you have to think about is, do we have enough houses to put roofs over the heads of people?

01:11:41.000 In other words, how many homeless do you have?

01:11:42.000 That's your question, not what housing is worth.

01:11:46.000 California, you've got hundreds of thousands and now coming up to a million empty houses almost, and they're saying, these middle class people, you can't live in a tent while you raise money to go get an apartment, that's what they're doing. 0.86

01:11:55.000 We're going to stick you in a sports stadium, we're going to stick you in a fairgrounds with barbed wire and police, with the crackheads, with the mentally ill, with the drug addicts, and then we're going to have taxpayers pay to police that, instead of working out some deal with these empty houses to get them into it.

01:12:09.000 I don't want to hear it's socialism folks, instead it's all just being given to the banks.

01:12:15.000 A rational policy would be to say, derivatives are worthless, wipe them out, adjustable rate mortgages are criminal inventions, forget about them, stop all foreclosures, shut down the zombie banks.

01:12:27.000 Then you have to say what you want to subsidize and foster and assist is tangible physical commodity production.

01:12:35.000 That's where this Detroit stuff becomes so important.

01:12:37.000 And so you have tax incentives for factories, roads, infrastructure, rail, And then that gives people well-paying jobs to then go buy food at the local restaurant or at the local shopping mall.

01:12:48.000 Now, Tarbly, we're almost out of time.

01:12:49.000 I want to hit a few other issues.

01:12:51.000 They have said they're now going to seize insurance companies and other banks and other industries, and we see Obama telling The big three automakers, we're going to tell you what you've got to do.

01:13:03.000 We're going to tell you how you're going to operate.

01:13:06.000 The government is going to come in and run you, but then he doublespeaks and says, but this isn't nationalization.

01:13:10.000 Well, it really isn't.

01:13:11.000 It's looting, and then just privately directing them.

01:13:15.000 Clearly they are saying they're going to take over local cities and counties as they collapse.

01:13:19.000 So we have these bankers through the government taking over everything while not supplying the funds to start it back up again.

01:13:25.000 They implode it, by design clearly, and then they won't come in and prop it up.

01:13:29.000 They just come in with military force or they come in with all these orders.

01:13:32.000 So we see them hijacking everything.

01:13:35.000 So speak to that, and what we're doing with the automakers, and then in closing when we come back, I want to get into how they pyramid the debt, what derivatives are for those who don't understand, and what this G20 means with this new ultra monetization where they're issuing this super currency.

01:13:50.000 Yeah, the thing with Detroit again is those factories are the most precious asset for humanity that we still have in this country, among others.

01:13:59.000 What you ought to be doing with those is building equipment for a space program, massive production of tractors to mechanize agriculture, especially in Africa, the third world, Sudan, Bangladesh, places like this.

01:14:10.000 You ought to be producing stuff for maglev rail, high-speed rail, all kinds of capital goods that can come off those assembly lines.

01:14:18.000 And instead, what Obama wants to do is impose the gangrene economy.

01:14:22.000 The gangrene economy means these... No, we covered that earlier.

01:14:26.000 I mean specifically the unconstitutional nature Of Obama saying, we're not going to give you money and when you fail, we're going to come in and basically hand you off to foreigners.

01:14:36.000 I mean, the issue of the President coming in and doing all of this.

01:14:41.000 Yeah, I think it's illegal and of course it's the corporate state.

01:14:45.000 This is precisely, I think, this may be covered by the Supreme Court opinion striking down the National Recovery Act in the 1930s, which was a corporatist idea, which was not a good idea.

01:14:57.000 So they may be in violation.

01:14:59.000 Supreme Court opinions.

01:15:00.000 Break down how the derivatives work and how they nest them as Russian dolls or as a pyramidal structure.

01:15:08.000 If you look at this AIG hedge fund in London, AIG Financial Products, it's clear that they had first of all collateralized debt obligations and And credit default swaps.

01:15:20.000 Credit default swaps are kinds of insurance policies that these hedge funds sell each other outside of normal insurance regulations.

01:15:27.000 So it's about three trillion of derivatives coming out of one hedge fund, one in London, controlled by AIG.

01:15:36.000 That's more than the gross national product of France.

01:15:38.000 So it's a pyramid in the sense that they probably start with credit default swaps, then they add a layer of collateralized debt obligations, then they add a layer of structured investment vehicles, you can add a couple of layers of auction rate securities, you might have some asset-backed securities, some mortgage-backed securities, you mix this all up.

01:15:59.000 The idea then is as long as the cash flow is positive, The leverage is positive and the profits at the top that are generated are absolutely astronomical.

01:16:10.000 But the problem is, as soon as anything goes wrong at the base, any little thing, right?

01:16:14.000 If Delphi begins to go bankrupt, if a few subprime mortgages here and there get defaulted on, then what that does is it takes all of that and it magnifies it and it multiplies it, so that then the losses generated at the top of the pyramid are absolutely astronomical.

01:16:30.000 That's what they went through.

01:16:31.000 And so what's this cherry on top accelerating the private IMF World Bank system now saying, we're issuing secret currency and we won't tell you what any of this is, but just give us more money.

01:16:44.000 Yeah, the group of 20 meets tomorrow, or this week, the day after tomorrow.

01:16:49.000 So this is the London G20, right?

01:16:51.000 This is 90% of the world economy.

01:16:53.000 It's Europe, Japan, Canada, US, big third world countries, China, Brazil, India, and so forth.

01:17:00.000 There are basically three things.

01:17:02.000 The dominant guy here is Gordon Brown.

01:17:04.000 He's running the world economy.

01:17:05.000 In other words, he's telling Obama and Geithner and Summers and Volker what to do.

01:17:10.000 Along with Alistair Darling, Chancellor of the Exchequer and Mervyn King of the Bank of England.

01:17:15.000 They want to do three things.

01:17:17.000 500 billion in cash coming from countries to beef up the International Monetary Fund.

01:17:22.000 That's the bank of the world, as far as I can see, under Dominique Strauss-Kahn, a French banker.

01:17:28.000 The U.S.

01:17:28.000 is supposed to give 100 billion to that.

01:17:31.000 Five times what we gave for food stamps.

01:17:33.000 Twice what we had for infrastructure in this country goes to the IMF.

01:17:36.000 Stop there, man!

01:17:36.000 Stop there!

01:17:38.000 We're going to come right back, ladies and gentlemen, with Webster Griffin Tarpley.

01:17:41.000 They keep calling it a stimulus.

01:17:43.000 All it is is money to bankers to keep as they freeze credit.

01:17:46.000 You've noticed they've announced credit's even tighter.

01:17:49.000 They're not loaning for houses and cars.

01:17:50.000 But they keep saying, give us more money, we'll loan to you.

01:17:53.000 It's all a lie.

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01:21:12.000 Okay, folks, we are back live here, ladies and gentlemen.

01:21:17.000 Final segment with Webster Griffin Tarbley.

01:21:20.000 And then we've got Luke Rudowsky and other We Are Changers up at the 8 after when we come back in live in the next hour or when we come back live for five minutes and they're going to be on with us.

01:21:28.000 I've got a ton of other news we're going to be covering and come up in about 45 minutes we'll go to the tent cities in California where we have reporters there shooting footage for this new film as well.

01:21:36.000 Okay, so we've gotten to the G20 where they're openly announcing a Europe of the World run by England.

01:21:41.000 We were watching the Parliament last week taping it to put it in the film.

01:21:45.000 Openly announcing world government, tracking everybody down, a global tax rate of over 80% to feed the banks.

01:21:50.000 I mean, this is a... To save the polar bears.

01:21:52.000 Yes, well, they say that.

01:21:54.000 I mean, this is nightmarish world government.

01:21:56.000 So speak about that and this currency dictatorship.

01:22:00.000 Gordon Brown and his crew are running this G20 and what they want is $500 billion from various countries, $100 billion from the U.S.

01:22:08.000 That's to be able to impose IMF dictatorship on the countries that are forced to turn to the IMF for loans.

01:22:15.000 Places like Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Romania, Iceland, Turkey, and so forth.

01:22:20.000 A lot of those countries are already under IMF dictatorship, because when you get the loan, you give up your sovereignty.

01:22:25.000 It's a diktat, right?

01:22:26.000 They give you a letter of intent, and you've got to do what it says.

01:22:30.000 Then there's also the special drawing rights hyperinflation on top of all this.

01:22:35.000 That not only did they demand cash money from the various countries, but they've got these things called special drawing rights, right, basket of currencies, a derivative, if you will, and they're multiplying those.

01:22:44.000 So the IMF is going to issue more and more special drawing rights.

01:22:48.000 So now we're going to have two-tier hyperinflation.

01:22:50.000 We're going to have the hyperinflation in the dollar, the euro, maybe the yen, maybe others, and then on top of that, a second layer of hyperinflated special drawing rights.

01:23:00.000 The SDRs, I think, would be the world currency.

01:23:02.000 They also want to have the IMF become the world regulator.

01:23:06.000 In other words, the currency dictator of the world.

01:23:10.000 Mainly, marching to the orders of Gordon Brown and the Bank of England.

01:23:15.000 He's founded G20, and when he's there, they openly call him, basically, the world leader.

01:23:19.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:23:20.000 They're bowing down.

01:23:21.000 He's the new Keynes, right?

01:23:23.000 So, the other thing is, no protectionism.

01:23:25.000 When Gordon Brown came and gave his speech to the joint session of the U.S.

01:23:28.000 Congress, That means no tax incentives to have the companies stay here, tax incentives to have them leave.

01:23:33.000 Yeah, right.

01:23:34.000 And you couldn't have an investment tax credit, right?

01:23:36.000 You couldn't say, we'll give you a tax break if you implement new technology.

01:23:39.000 And when there's a stimulus package, it can't be spent in the U.S.

01:23:41.000 because that violates it.

01:23:43.000 Right, it has to go to Dubai.

01:23:44.000 And Obama's announced that.

01:23:45.000 He's announced it.

01:23:46.000 I know it's also the stuff about NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO, you can't touch any of that.

01:23:51.000 You can't have exchange controls, you can't have capital controls, you can't have anything.

01:23:57.000 Imagine, the United States may soon have to go to the IMF.

01:24:01.000 This is the really tragic thing.

01:24:03.000 When you go to the IMF, you give up your sovereignty.

01:24:06.000 Now there are two possibilities in this world.

01:24:07.000 And under State Department Memorandum 200, one-child policies, what the curriculum is, we go under the internationalist law.

01:24:15.000 Yeah, so either the U.S.

01:24:17.000 will declare the IMF illegal, which under Obama I'm afraid is not a very close possibility, or the IMF will declare the U.S.

01:24:25.000 illegal and bankrupt, essentially, and impose these conditionalities.

01:24:30.000 There's the other thing at the London G20, the stuff about worldwide stimulus.

01:24:35.000 This is vulgar, I think.

01:24:36.000 This is an old idea from Carter Mondale.

01:24:38.000 When Carter Mondale came in in 1977, they had this idea that Japan and Germany, with the locomotives of the world, they sent Mondale on a special trip to both of them, saying, you guys have got to start printing money, stimulating.

01:24:52.000 What they mean by this is, they're afraid of a dollar collapse.

01:24:56.000 They want to make sure that all the other currencies are as weak or weaker than the dollar.

01:25:01.000 So all of them inflating?

01:25:03.000 All of them inflating, so that the dollar is not the weakest of them.

01:25:09.000 But France and Germany say no.

01:25:11.000 And I think that's an interesting thing.

01:25:12.000 That Obama is not going to get everything he wants.

01:25:15.000 The British, of course, are with Obama, telling Obama what to do.

01:25:19.000 But there are other people, France and Germany, saying no on some of what they're demanding.

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01:27:14.000 We've got five short minutes left on the Webster-Tarpley, then the whole story of what happened with Luke Rudowsky and others in New York being arrested.

01:27:21.000 Luke will be joining us in T-minus seven minutes.

01:27:24.000 Finishing up here, we have the Real Board of Directors of America meeting with their frontman, their spokesman, Obama last week.

01:27:30.000 The 13 zombie banks.

01:27:32.000 Briefly, and then Barack Obama is practicing all week and weekend, the etiquette of how to curtsy to the Queen.

01:27:38.000 Literally, in the London Telegraph, how to curtsy.

01:27:41.000 But first, the zombie banks.

01:27:43.000 The Board of Directors of the United States met with the President.

01:27:48.000 These are the people who put Obama in the White House.

01:27:50.000 They made him.

01:27:51.000 They can unmake him.

01:27:53.000 And I'm talking about Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan Chase, Pandit of Citibank, known as Pandit the Bandit in insider circles, Lewis of Bank of America, Blankfein of Goldman Sachs, Mack of Morgan Stanley.

01:28:06.000 Blankfein and Mack were getting about a dollar every time you bought a gallon of gas last summer.

01:28:11.000 They were getting about a dollar of it from speculation, from speculation to the I.C.E.

01:28:15.000 market.

01:28:16.000 Kelly of Bank of New York Mellon, that's the back office for the TARP, so they met Obama and basically gave him his marching orders.

01:28:24.000 And notice the treatment they get, kid gloves, red carpet.

01:28:28.000 Wonderful.

01:28:28.000 No one knows where the money went.

01:28:30.000 Compared to these auto guys who get nothing, right?

01:28:32.000 This whole thing about industrial military complex, there is none.

01:28:36.000 It's the Wall Street banking derivatives hedge fund zombie bank complex that's running.

01:28:41.000 Okay, in closing, let me get into the Queen thing.

01:28:43.000 The Queen.

01:28:44.000 Obama is practicing the kowtow.

01:28:47.000 In other words, he's practicing the hands and the head on the floor in front of the Queen.

01:28:52.000 It's a moment of great humiliation for the United States.

01:28:55.000 So he's going to be received by Queen Elizabeth.

01:28:58.000 This, of course, this family.

01:29:00.000 I wonder if Prince Charles will be there.

01:29:03.000 He's being received on April Fool's Day tomorrow.

01:29:06.000 Then he goes on to Europe for the G20.

01:29:08.000 And it says on the telegraph he is practicing etiquette and gifts and how to bow to her.

01:29:14.000 London.

01:29:14.000 The Countdown.

01:29:15.000 By the way, the first sitting U.S.

01:29:17.000 President to go for an audience, he has been summoned.

01:29:20.000 It's the first U.S.

01:29:21.000 President.

01:29:22.000 Well, my friend Phil Berg of Philadelphia has a case in federal court, according to which Obama may well be a citizen of the British Empire by virtue of being born in Kenya.

01:29:34.000 Which would make him ineligible for the presidency.

01:29:37.000 He's either a citizen of Kenya or of Indonesia.

01:29:40.000 Indonesia may be a little bit more likely, but he may indeed be a citizen of Kenya.

01:29:44.000 I think there's a real question about whether he's qualified to be the president.

01:29:49.000 Suppose Prince Charles is there.

01:29:51.000 You know, you want to converse with Prince Charles.

01:29:53.000 Prince Charles went on television a while ago and he said, these are my plants.

01:29:57.000 I talk to them.

01:29:58.000 And they talk back to me.

01:30:00.000 I guess talking to plants is okay, but when they start talking back is when you gotta worry.

01:30:03.000 Or, how about a little badinage with Prince Philip? 0.70

01:30:06.000 Prince Philip is the guy who says, if I could be reincarnated, I would like to come back as a deadly virus to kill people and solve the problem of global overpopulation. 0.97

01:30:15.000 Now that goes beyond, uh... 0.95

01:30:18.000 Beyond the 1930s dictators.

01:30:20.000 But I mean, this is unprecedented.

01:30:22.000 They admit this is the first time a sitting U.S.

01:30:24.000 President who has been summoned will go through all of the... The kowtow.

01:30:30.000 Yeah, the kowtow, all of the forms of worship, going in in a reviewing line and having her... I mean, this really shows England's running it all. 0.86

01:30:40.000 Yeah, when your country is reduced to a ravaged wreck and derelict One minute left.

01:30:45.000 on the Ocean of Adventures run by bankers. 1.00

01:30:49.000 The United States is now a ship of fools run by derivatives bankers. 1.00

01:30:52.000 One minute left. 1.00

01:30:53.000 This is what you're going to get.

01:30:54.000 One minute left.

01:30:55.000 China.

01:30:55.000 Yeah, China.

01:30:56.000 Learn Chinese because they have an effective stimulus package there.

01:31:00.000 They're building rail, they're building infrastructure, massive stuff.

01:31:03.000 They're moving the world price of copper, the world price of lumber, the world price of aluminum, steel, and all these other things.

01:31:09.000 In other words, the U.S.

01:31:10.000 is putting maybe $60 billion into infrastructure.

01:31:13.000 China, $600 billion.

01:31:15.000 So, that's a real stimulus.

01:31:17.000 Exactly.

01:31:17.000 We're buying plastic toys and things and giving all our money to the bankers to buy bigger palaces.

01:31:22.000 China's building lightning fast rails, some of the fastest in the world, huge factories, schooling, everything.

01:31:29.000 We need to build, we ought to build a hundred nuclear reactors, 50,000 miles of maglev, a thousand hospitals, rebuild the interstate highway system, rebuild water systems, rebuild sewage, rebuild schools.

01:31:42.000 Then you get rid of your six, seven trillion infrastructure deficit.

01:31:45.000 We're out of time.

01:31:46.000 I want to thank you for coming to Austin on short notice.

01:31:48.000 Thank you.

01:31:48.000 God bless you, my friend.

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01:31:50.000 Wouldn't miss it for the world.

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01:35:00.000 Okay, we're going to go to Luke first because he has to go back into his college class.

01:35:12.000 This is the first time we could get him today.

01:35:13.000 He just got out of jail this morning.

01:35:16.000 We got to Manny Valencia and uh...

01:35:20.000 Anthony Veras coming up as well.

01:35:22.000 We're also arrested.

01:35:23.000 We'll go to them in a moment.

01:35:24.000 Luke Rodowski, we happen to be up here Saturday night.

01:35:27.000 We heard you got arrested.

01:35:27.000 You made your one phone call from jail.

01:35:30.000 And we did an emergency broadcast, got the word out.

01:35:33.000 So I want to hear what response that caused.

01:35:35.000 What have you been charged with for asking Bloomberg a question or even arriving at a hotel to do that as a member of the press?

01:35:42.000 First of all, I want to thank you and your listeners for calling into the police station last night.

01:35:47.000 My friend Anthony and Manny, they were listening to the police officer talking over about the trespass and how they wanted to charge me with having a fake trespass.

01:35:56.000 It was your callers, it was you that called in and got those charges dropped.

01:36:00.000 They are charging me with criminal trespass for walking into a hotel.

01:36:05.000 Nothing else.

01:36:05.000 I was never asked to leave.

01:36:07.000 I walked into the hotel, and as soon as I did, I was on the third floor.

01:36:11.000 I was immediately ID'd by Bloomberg's personal security guards and police intelligence.

01:36:18.000 I was brought downstairs.

01:36:19.000 When I was brought downstairs, I was told I was detained.

01:36:22.000 I asked them, why am I being detained?

01:36:24.000 Why?

01:36:24.000 What's the probable cause?

01:36:25.000 They were like, no, just stay here, you're detained.

01:36:27.000 They had police intelligence by me.

01:36:30.000 Then the police intelligence got the police officers, and they told them, this kid won't leave.

01:36:35.000 And I was asking, I was like, can I please leave?

01:36:36.000 Can I please get out of here?

01:36:37.000 Can I please go home?

01:36:38.000 They're like, no, you stay here.

01:36:40.000 They went to the other police officers and they said, oh, he won't leave when we tell him to leave.

01:36:44.000 I was already on the first floor.

01:36:46.000 So that's a frame up.

01:36:47.000 Let's stop right there.

01:36:48.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

01:36:49.000 Let me stop you, Luke.

01:36:50.000 On record for folks watching this later on the web or at PrisonPlanet.tv or on the radio listening, in Truth Rising there is the footage from two different camera angles.

01:36:58.000 He's on a public sidewalk protesting the cover-up of 9-11 in front of Building 7.

01:37:03.000 The retired police are security thugs for Larry Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center complex, who's cashed in big time.

01:37:10.000 They show up and say, we're going to say your camera's a gun, your backpack's a bomb, we know you're not a terrorist, but you'll end up serving 30 days in the hole before they figure that out and let you out.

01:37:18.000 Then police show up in blue, they grab your camera, they say, this is a gun, it's all on tape, somebody down the street gets some video as well, and because we happened to get away with some video, they didn't frame you for a bomb.

01:37:29.000 So we have the police on tape trying to frame you for a bomb and a gun.

01:37:32.000 So this is par for the course.

01:37:34.000 They grab you, they say, stay here, and you go, no, I want to leave, and they say, no, do not leave.

01:37:39.000 Some cops stay, others go.

01:37:41.000 They come back and say, he won't leave.

01:37:43.000 That is a frame-up.

01:37:44.000 This is the type of criminal activity they operate in.

01:37:46.000 So that's your headline there for everybody.

01:37:48.000 The police are framing him, just like they tried to frame him with a bomb.

01:37:52.000 This is the hardcore secret police crime syndicate we're dealing with, with the New York Mafia.

01:37:57.000 What did you say to them when they said, hold on, hold on?

01:37:59.000 We had other guys with the camera back in the distance.

01:38:02.000 That's why Manny was arrested.

01:38:04.000 Manny was arrested for filming me getting arrested.

01:38:07.000 Anthony was also in the building and they set him up the same way.

01:38:10.000 They said he would never leave.

01:38:12.000 We were never asked to leave the building.

01:38:14.000 I attended that building many times.

01:38:15.000 This is where I confronted David Patterson.

01:38:17.000 This is where I had an interview with Pataki and Charlie Rose recently.

01:38:21.000 Even within a couple of weeks, I walk in there, show my trespasser, and I'm allowed in.

01:38:25.000 I walked in there, and as soon as I walked in there, I'm detained immediately.

01:38:29.000 I'm told to stay there.

01:38:30.000 There's witnesses.

01:38:31.000 There's video.

01:38:32.000 But get this.

01:38:33.000 I came to the precinct.

01:38:34.000 After I got out of Central Bookings, I went to the precinct where the cameras and footage was located.

01:38:39.000 I asked them for my footage and camera.

01:38:41.000 They said, no, you're not getting your camera, you're not getting the three cameras, you're not getting the footage.

01:38:46.000 It is criminal evidence and the DA has to release it to you and it's part of a criminal investigation.

01:38:51.000 Now let's be clear, let's stop here, because if you get some two-bit lawyer, we'll just waste money, nothing will happen. 0.95

01:38:55.000 You need to get press releases out on this to state the whole truth.

01:38:59.000 They framed you, they told you don't leave, now they're grabbing your cameras, which is your evidence, and your tapes, the evidence that they came up and said, stay here, and then went and lied, and come back and say he won't leave.

01:39:12.000 And now, if they erase those tapes, that's more criminal activity.

01:39:15.000 This is racketeering, this is organized crime, if they do that.

01:39:19.000 So, we have them saying, stay here.

01:39:21.000 I was actually told by correction officers and police officers who I'd befriended during this whole process that they will probably delete the footage as I was told by police officers.

01:39:31.000 I was in the 18th precinct at the precinct and they were telling me, you're going to be let go in a couple hours away from this precinct.

01:39:37.000 Within a couple minutes NYPD intelligence came down, a whole bunch of guys in suits came down and they said no, he's going down to Central Bookings.

01:39:44.000 they were looking through my pictures they were looking through everything i had literally through uh...

01:39:49.000 everything that i had they were just looking through every single thing try to look at any little problems with me trying to try to get me in trouble and they even saw pictures of me at a gun range and they were asking me if i had a permit or a license and they confiscated that camera as well and those pictures as well amazing out there in the land of the free home of the brave going after your second amendment Well, Luke, you know, that's why I'd watch what you carry on cameras.

01:40:14.000 I know you guys tend to carry a lot of your old video and photos and family photos with you.

01:40:18.000 You know, tell them what these goons will try with that.

01:40:21.000 Look, I commend your courage, and I commend what you've done, but I've told you And I know you've said, no, I'm going to continue.

01:40:27.000 I've said, look, they already set you guys up with the other fella attacking you and then saying you attacked the girl in the wheelchair.

01:40:34.000 They're going to set you up.

01:40:35.000 You get death threats.

01:40:36.000 They've already tried to claim you have a bomb on you.

01:40:38.000 I'm not saying back off these guys, but I would only do it at press conferences and I would watch yourself because this is mafia.

01:40:46.000 And next, the gloves are going to come off even worse, and you've done so much other good work with the other journalism you do, the other people you interview, the other people you confront at press conferences.

01:40:55.000 You know, this is a mafia Don you're dealing with, the mayor of New York, and they're really getting sick of you exposing the fact that he's blocking the first responders healthcare.

01:41:04.000 And other things.

01:41:05.000 And those police are more than happy to frame you and send you to prison because you dare try to get them medical care.

01:41:10.000 They want to be abused.

01:41:12.000 They want to be hurt by the system.

01:41:13.000 They think it's normal to frame people as we have on video.

01:41:16.000 So I would get all their names, who they are.

01:41:19.000 I would go through the procedures of demanding that you have to, when it goes to trial, you have to mark as evidence your videos and then demand that they give you your videos so that you can use that as evidence.

01:41:33.000 You know, already the lawyer you guys had for the last case of this then died mysteriously.

01:41:38.000 Tell folks about what happened with that.

01:41:40.000 Well, I just wanted to let you know that this was an official press event.

01:41:43.000 This was a Bloomberg fundraiser that other press people were attending.

01:41:47.000 No, no, I understand that.

01:41:49.000 I understand that.

01:41:50.000 But they don't... Luke, a year and a half ago they already tried to say you had a bomb and your camera was a gun.

01:41:57.000 And you get death threats at your house.

01:41:58.000 All I'm telling you is, go ahead and do what you're doing if you want, but be prepared for them to kill you.

01:42:04.000 I mean, be prepared for us six months from now to hear Luke Radowsky OD'd, or Luke Radowsky jumped off a bridge, or Luke Radowsky shot himself in the head three times.

01:42:12.000 I'm saying, be fully conscious of the area that you're entering here.

01:42:17.000 Okay, these people set up governors.

01:42:18.000 They don't care.

01:42:20.000 Okay?

01:42:21.000 And thank God we already caught them trying to plant bombs on you.

01:42:24.000 So all I'm telling you is, be conscious.

01:42:26.000 You're 22 years old.

01:42:28.000 You're not bulletproof.

01:42:29.000 I'm telling you that in warfare and in full war, there's a certain time to break off things when you know what you're going up against.

01:42:36.000 I mean, you know, it's going to be hell just to try to get you out of this.

01:42:39.000 And I know they're wrong. 0.95

01:42:40.000 They're criminals. 0.99

01:42:40.000 They're lying. 0.99

01:42:42.000 All of this, I'm not trying to preach at you, I care about you, and I'm just telling you, watch yourself, and you really need to think about what you're, you know, I understand it's a press conference, I understand you have a right, I understand it's a hotel with restaurants and bars, and you would have left if they told you to leave like you always do.

01:42:56.000 I know, I'm saying, they're turning up the heat.

01:42:58.000 You go to other events, on the street, his secured people run up to you separately, and say, that's Luke Radowsky, I'm just saying, they're on you.

01:43:05.000 As Bloomberg Security Guard, they know me.

01:43:07.000 Police intelligence knows me fully well.

01:43:09.000 Every time I attend events, there's a historical past with this event that happened.

01:43:14.000 Mayor Bloomberg, actually, a couple months ago, we confronted him.

01:43:18.000 As we were filming for our new film, Truth to Power, we confronted Mayor Bloomberg five times.

01:43:22.000 in 2008 and he actually put pressure on organizations that help first responders and told them if if he keeps confronting me I'm not gonna help you if he stops confronting me I will help you with the Zadoga bill I will help you with fundraisers now I had to confront him because he went back on his word I left him alone for a couple months I didn't confront him I look he even walked by me a couple times I didn't say well and and and and I know and now that you're trying to get

01:43:48.000 The horrible little demonic, thug-like, pot-bellied police of New York.

01:43:53.000 I mean, it really is like out of a nightmare movie. 0.97

01:43:55.000 You're trying to help them.

01:43:56.000 I don't like that.

01:43:57.000 They want, they hate America.

01:43:59.000 They hate goodness.

01:43:59.000 They hate the First Amendment.

01:44:01.000 They love tyranny and they'll kill you if they get a chance.

01:44:04.000 So all I'm telling you is, maybe they don't need health care.

01:44:06.000 Maybe they want to die of the asbestos.

01:44:08.000 You know, this is what they want.

01:44:09.000 They want to pay. 1.00

01:44:11.000 They want to be scum. 1.00

01:44:12.000 That's all I'm telling you. 1.00

01:44:14.000 I will tell you that the higher officials of the NYPD and everybody involved with persecuting me is corrupt.

01:44:20.000 But talking to the police department, talking to the corrections officers, going through the whole process down in central Wilkins, they are really fans of our work.

01:44:29.000 They were extremely supportive and extremely helpful to me as well.

01:44:32.000 There's a lot of good police officers out there that helped me get through this.

01:44:35.000 I know that, but I'm talking about the ones that are framing you.

01:44:39.000 And I know Bloomberg said, okay, leave me alone, I'll get them some funding.

01:44:44.000 But, you know, regardless, and those officers need to speak up that you were framed.

01:44:48.000 You know, I tell you, they need to know there's a lot of people watching this, a lot of people looking at this, and they need to know that they're going to end up, you know, this is mafia activity.

01:44:57.000 Now, when are they saying you're going to get your footage back?

01:45:01.000 They said that the trial is in two months.

01:45:03.000 They said I won't be able to get my footage back.

01:45:05.000 I'm going to have to go through lawyers and the DA in order to get my footage back.

01:45:09.000 Well, you need to make a filing on evidence yourself that you need that for your trial.

01:45:18.000 You understand?

01:45:18.000 And that's what we're going to try to do when we get a lawyer.

01:45:20.000 Look, look, look, look, look, look, look, the police won't let me stop you.

01:45:24.000 When they beat somebody up on the side of the road, people sue and get the squad car footage.

01:45:28.000 It's the same thing.

01:45:29.000 They have to give it to you, okay?

01:45:32.000 Go ahead.

01:45:34.000 I'm going to be talking about everything that happened in detail, even in central Wilkins.

01:45:38.000 I mean, the stories that I went through the last couple hours were insane.

01:45:42.000 I'm going to be doing a special live feed today at 10 o'clock on WeAreChanged.org.

01:45:46.000 I'm going to have to buy another camera because we don't have any cameras anymore because they're being held right now.

01:45:51.000 Okay, Luke, do me a big favor.

01:45:54.000 Tell me specifically some of the things that happened while you were in there.

01:46:01.000 I mean, some good things happened.

01:46:03.000 I mean, they lost my files a lot of times.

01:46:06.000 And even the correction officers were telling me that this is a political case.

01:46:09.000 They're probably going to lose your files.

01:46:10.000 They're going to try to keep you in there as long as they can.

01:46:12.000 And they did.

01:46:13.000 I went up to the jury, to the court trial in front of the judge many times, two times, three times even.

01:46:19.000 And they said, no, we don't have your records.

01:46:20.000 Go back.

01:46:21.000 And I had to be sent back into the Central Booking Holdman area, which is like a third world prison in there.

01:46:26.000 And the conditions that I endured and Manny and Anthony endured were incredibly harsh and extreme.

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01:46:40.000 I was inside the pen with 50 people sleeping on top of each other, homeless people, cockroaches everywhere, bathroom over stalling everywhere.

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01:51:00.000 Yeah, we apologize to Anthony.

01:51:04.000 He had to go back to class.

01:51:05.000 But tonight, 9 to midnight, Burmese is going to be live here. 1.00

01:51:08.000 And Luke's going to do a video simulcast at wearechange.org for at least the first hour with Jason Burmese.

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01:51:25.000 I want to go ahead and bring up, you say Manny had to go, Anthony Varas is still there.

01:51:30.000 Anthony, and then we'll go back to you briefly.

01:51:32.000 Luke, I know you've got to go into class too.

01:51:33.000 I think this is a little more important.

01:51:34.000 You guys might want to miss class, but the story's hot right now.

01:51:38.000 Later you won't be able to get your story out.

01:51:40.000 That's my experience with news.

01:51:42.000 But going to Anthony.

01:51:44.000 Anthony, what was this like?

01:51:45.000 I mean, you're a key witness, even if they confiscated the footage, you may not give it back, that they said, you guys stay here.

01:51:52.000 They didn't tell you to leave, and they came back and said, we told you to leave, and they're charging you with trespassing?

01:51:57.000 Yeah, well, in a nutshell, it's just a classic setup, Alex.

01:52:02.000 We came into the building, we fanned out like we normally do.

01:52:05.000 The only thing that was different from this Troop Squad and any other was that it was a Saturday, and we had a larger contingency there.

01:52:11.000 We had about maybe 15 people, which might have raised some red flags.

01:52:15.000 You know, just to reiterate what Lou said, we were never told to leave.

01:52:19.000 In my instance, Uh, I had gone into the building initially, did a little quick search right around to kind of get a feel for the place.

01:52:27.000 As soon as I went back outside to speak to some other We Are Change members, I was told by Sabrina, uh, you know, Luke is in handcuffs.

01:52:33.000 At that point, I go inside, uh, and I'm told by an elevator bank to, you know, stay right there.

01:52:39.000 And you know, a couple minutes later this guy grabs me, brings me in an office, and I'm being, you know, really harassed.

01:52:46.000 And I mean, it's all on tape about being grabbed, physically assaulted, yelling at me, telling me to turn off the camera.

01:52:53.000 You know, just real, you know, strong-arm tactics, you know, intimidation.

01:52:58.000 And that's what they want, you know, to go back to something you and Luke were speaking about, you know.

01:53:03.000 They want us to back off, that's what they want, and I fully understand the consequences behind our actions, but...

01:53:10.000 They have to understand also that this is not going to make us back off.

01:53:13.000 This is not going to make us back down.

01:53:14.000 You know, we're still going to fight for these first responders. 1.00

01:53:17.000 We're still going to expose these scumbags. 0.99

01:53:19.000 And if anything... Look, I'm not telling you to back off. 0.99

01:53:21.000 I'm just saying, I'm just saying I would never be alone.

01:53:24.000 How they got Luke and then they got you and they say stay right there.

01:53:27.000 You have to call every, you know, those witnesses.

01:53:29.000 You need to get their names.

01:53:30.000 Because they may not give your tapes back.

01:53:32.000 It's just so criminal to see this happening.

01:53:35.000 Any other key things that you want to report to folks, Anthony?

01:53:38.000 Well, I'm surprised they actually gave the vouchers, because when we first left the police precinct, they didn't give us vouchers for all the equipment that we had.

01:53:47.000 They just gave us vouchers for one camera, and we went back saying that we have two other additional cameras here, and then they wrote out the vouchers for us.

01:53:55.000 So hopefully we will be able to get those tapes back.

01:53:58.000 I just wanted to also thank you.

01:54:00.000 One of the first things I heard when I came out of the jail cell was, you know, you did some emergency broadcast that night.

01:54:06.000 So thank you and, you know, everyone else who showed some support.

01:54:09.000 Absolutely.

01:54:10.000 Luke, again tonight you're going to be on First Hour with Jason Bermas on the Infowarrior.

01:54:14.000 Longer if you'd like.

01:54:15.000 We'll clear the decks for you and have some of the other witnesses there.

01:54:18.000 Hopefully you can have Manny there since we weren't able to get him on.

01:54:22.000 They're charging you all with this.

01:54:23.000 Even if they convict you, you've got to then do appeal and show how they didn't give you your evidence back and then you'll win on appeal.

01:54:29.000 Then you'll have lawsuits individually.

01:54:31.000 Were these mainly plainclothes officers on you from the photos I've seen?

01:54:34.000 Or were there any guys in the blue?

01:54:37.000 No, initially it was just plain clothes, Bloomberg's goons, hotel security staff, and then they had called in the police.

01:54:47.000 There was police on the perimeter of the building, very strong, because Bloomberg and other politicians were there.

01:54:53.000 I was in the room with security for no more than five, ten minutes, trying to grab the camera out of my lap as I was recording, grabbing my arms, and within ten minutes the cops were there and we were taken out.

01:55:06.000 Yeah, so they've got you in the office, but they're saying he refuses to leave, but we've made him go in the office.

01:55:10.000 I mean, any jury hears that, even if they steal your tape, it's obvious lies.

01:55:13.000 Luke Rodowski, closing comments.

01:55:16.000 This is an outrage.

01:55:17.000 This is sad that this happened.

01:55:18.000 We're trying to get aid for the first responders that are sick and dying.

01:55:21.000 Just a couple days ago, Bloomberg cut 5,000 unemployment benefits, workplace benefits for first responders.

01:55:26.000 He's lying to me.

01:55:27.000 He lied to first responders and their organizations.

01:55:29.000 We left him alone.

01:55:30.000 He's not keeping his promise.

01:55:31.000 Keep the pressure on him.

01:55:33.000 He's not supporting the James St.

01:55:34.000 George bill.

01:55:34.000 We launched a campaign to save lives.

01:55:37.000 Help support the James St.

01:55:38.000 George bill.

01:55:38.000 We're going to have more information on that website, on our website, wearechange.org, later on today.

01:55:44.000 Alright, Luke.

01:55:46.000 Again, tonight you're going to be on there, what, at your house doing a video simulcast.

01:55:50.000 We'll have you up on PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:55:52.000 We'll even dial in and put that up like we did with you at the FEMA camp and some of the other live feeds that you've done from Denver.

01:55:58.000 So we'll be simulcasting at PrisonPlanet.tv tonight with you.

01:56:04.000 In fact, I'm going to talk to my IT guys.

01:56:05.000 We might even just do a free simulcast of PrisonPlanet.tv and then mix in your video feed with the interviews with Jason Burmish.

01:56:13.000 from nine to midnight tonight.

01:56:15.000 It will do an hour, hour and a half on this subject because even if you don't care about We Are Change and Luke, these great guys, it's the First Amendment and it's the secret police and how they're trying to set folks up.

01:56:26.000 Anthony and Luke of We Are Change New York, WeAreChange.org, thank you for spending time with us.

01:56:31.000 Thanks for having me.

01:56:32.000 God bless you.

01:56:32.000 Thank you so much for your support, brother.

01:56:33.000 I want to thank all the listeners for their support when they did.

01:56:36.000 Thank you.

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02:00:30.000 Getting into the abuse in the prisons.

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02:01:05.000 Going to Rob Dew, Jason Douglas, I guess he's still doing an interview with somebody out at the Tent City.

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02:01:25.000 Rob Dude, tell me about your experience when you got into Los Angeles, what you saw there with the homeless in tent cities, what you witnessed up in Sacramento.

02:01:32.000 They're now doing a foursome, and I have a video clip coming up with Schwarzenegger and the Sacramento Mayor saying, look, tough love, you can't just live out here in tents.

02:01:42.000 We're going to make you go to the fairgrounds.

02:01:44.000 So Rob Dude, joining us from California.

02:01:47.000 Well Alex, I don't think they're going to go quietly.

02:01:51.000 The people that we've been talking to here, they don't plan on going to this Cal Expo Center.

02:02:00.000 They don't get a lot of information or feedback from the mayor or the city.

02:02:05.000 They just come down all of a sudden and tell them things.

02:02:10.000 It's a real interesting environment.

02:02:12.000 Everybody that we've met so far has been really nice.

02:02:14.000 These people just want to live here and be left alone.

02:02:19.000 It's right at the edge of town, and you go right over some railroad tracks where a levee is, and you can see there's at least, in just this one little area, there's at least 300 tents kind of spread out over a few acres.

02:02:34.000 From there, it goes, the levee runs right along the river and then, you know, they say it runs back another six miles.

02:02:41.000 There's pockets of tents scattered in.

02:02:44.000 And so there's a lot of people here.

02:02:47.000 It's really windy right now.

02:02:48.000 It's been hard to get good audio for the interviews.

02:02:51.000 We have to get inside a tent to keep the wind out.

02:02:56.000 But we've met a lot of nice people and they say they're not going to move.

02:03:01.000 They say if they try to make us move, we'll just grab our stuff and walk off.

02:03:05.000 Listen, I want you guys next to hike all the way down that and to have...

02:03:12.000 Jason Douglas, interview you, you know, as you go to the trees, as you go by the levee, and show how there's a whole community down in there.

02:03:21.000 You know, the media says 145 tents, but then local news has said up to 300 tents.

02:03:26.000 How many people just in this one archipelago of people living on the edge?

02:03:33.000 Well, I would say, I would say definitely more than 350 people that I've seen.

02:03:40.000 Walking around.

02:03:41.000 We counted the tents in just the one area that we're at.

02:03:45.000 There's 85 in one section, then it runs along a fence line where there's another like 30.

02:03:49.000 And then there's another section that opens up and that's got 40 there.

02:03:53.000 And then, even before you get to those areas, there's pockets of 10 tents here, another 15 here.

02:03:59.000 You go across the bridge, there's some underneath the bridge.

02:04:02.000 They've really, you know, scoped that area out and, you know, they say, look, we're not bothering anybody, we're out of the way.

02:04:08.000 No, they really don't have a lot of crime there.

02:04:11.000 We were there until 10.30 last night and at no point did we ever feel threatened you know now what type of folks are these we've seen newscasts where it's lower middle class people who got a bad mortgage lost everything they can't get credit for the two three month down payment for an apartment or a rent house so they're most of them have said they're trying to save money to get out of there and that they're going and leaving with their cars to jobs right Well, and that's an interesting thing.

02:04:37.000 We met one guy who's been working.

02:04:39.000 He's been out there for about a year now and he has a day job.

02:04:42.000 He works every day in construction and comes back and lives there.

02:04:45.000 And he just, you know, he likes the freedom.

02:04:47.000 Um, he doesn't, he doesn't really want to have an apartment.

02:04:50.000 You know, a lot of these people, uh, well, we've been finding is that they want to be out here.

02:04:54.000 They're not looking, uh, to be part of the system.

02:04:57.000 We have met people who've been out of their apartment for not making rent.

02:05:01.000 And then they have to make that money that two months plus a deposit.

02:05:05.000 And then if they have a dog or, you know, or a cat, you know, it's another three or four hundred on top of that.

02:05:10.000 So, we have yet to find a person that said they've lost their mortgage, although, um, what we're hearing from the people is that, um, a lot of the people we've talked to is that there's, uh, there's one guy that lost his mortgage and he was there for about a month and a half, and then he left, but he still comes back to bring stuff for people.

02:05:31.000 Um, so, what we're thinking of is, To us, from what we've been gathering, is that that has kind of been hyped up in order to create the news story.

02:05:40.000 But these, you know, a lot of people have said they've been out here for years.

02:05:43.000 There have been some people who have been out there for a few months.

02:05:45.000 A lot of people, they're either getting kicked out of their house by their spouse, or they're just losing their apartment because they can't pay rent.

02:05:52.000 We met one guy who was a director of sales for his company.

02:05:58.000 This small company, it was a flooring and tile company, and the company went under and he lost his job.

02:06:03.000 And he hasn't been able to find a new one and he was staying at the Cal Expo Center for a while.

02:06:07.000 But you gotta really hear about this Cal Expo Center.

02:06:10.000 This place is definitely, this is like a FEMA camp in the making.

02:06:14.000 I mean, you have to be there, you have to be at the pickup point by 3 p.m.

02:06:19.000 and they bus you over to it.

02:06:20.000 So you're not allowed to bring hardly any personal possessions.

02:06:23.000 You can bring a backpack and a bicycle if you have a bicycle.

02:06:27.000 And they put those in a storage unit for you.

02:06:29.000 When you walk in, And the guy's telling us all this.

02:06:31.000 We have it all on tape.

02:06:32.000 He said, first they wind you down, and then they pat you down.

02:06:35.000 No, it's peasants.

02:06:36.000 Listen, listen.

02:06:37.000 I mean, go over, but this is what I kept telling people.

02:06:40.000 They say they have in the news, CPS in there, if you have kids, and they say, oh, your child's in danger, they grab them.

02:06:45.000 So they won't let you go out and live in the woods, or go out and live on the side of the road, or live by a river, and then try to raise money.

02:06:50.000 They're going to force you in with the crackheads, with the heroin heads, with the schizophrenics, with the, you know, kind of baseline of classic homeless.

02:07:00.000 With this new homeless, the working poor, integrating them into this hellhole, taking their basic freedom away, and as the economy implodes, you're going to see more and more of this, and this is the precedent Obama has said, and the bill's introduced, to set up these FEMA camps, and your prisoners in them. 1.00

02:07:18.000 So what are they saying the Expo Center, the fairgrounds, is like, and are they saying they're going to be forced in?

02:07:25.000 Well, a lot of them are saying they're not going to go.

02:07:27.000 They say if they try to force them in, they're going to say no and they're either going to grab what they can grab and move farther back into the woods.

02:07:35.000 Um, because what's been happening, they've been kind of kicked out of different places.

02:07:38.000 So they've been all kind of corralled into this tent city area. 0.91

02:07:41.000 It used to be spread out over a larger area.

02:07:43.000 And slowly, people who own the different parts of property are either telling them to move or kicking them out or whatever.

02:07:50.000 So it's kind of conglomerating into that.

02:07:52.000 But going to the Expo Center, you have to be at this bus depot by 3pm.

02:07:56.000 So there's really no way you could have a job because it's out at 3pm.

02:08:00.000 You know, nobody.

02:08:02.000 And then they take you to this place.

02:08:03.000 You're not allowed to bring anything with you.

02:08:05.000 They do provide food there.

02:08:06.000 Who knows what it's like?

02:08:09.000 You know, I didn't see the food yet.

02:08:11.000 And then they've kicked out at 5 a.m.

02:08:15.000 They wake them all up, put them back in a bus and drive them back to Loaves and Fishes.

02:08:20.000 So, they're really not providing much, but just this kind of weird environment that you can kind of get some sleep in, because they do have some bunks there, but they say the bunks are made for almost children, and they spent almost a million dollars to upgrade the facility, and they added 50 bunks.

02:08:36.000 There's a lot more than 50 people out here, and, you know, they're not going to go.

02:08:40.000 I can see that right now.

02:08:42.000 They're either going to pick up their stuff and walk away, and You know, what they've said is before, they've grabbed the stuff, thrown it in a dumpster, and then they just wait for the cops to leave, and they go back and get their stuff out and set up their camps again.

02:08:54.000 Alright, Rob.

02:08:55.000 Rob, here is your mission.

02:08:56.000 I know some of them are going to have cell phones for their jobs and things.

02:09:00.000 Get as many names, numbers, and cell phones.

02:09:03.000 Get a little bit of money, too, for their minutes.

02:09:07.000 I want to interview them when you get back at the end of the week.

02:09:09.000 I want to have three or four of these people on, kind of a cross-section, and I want you to give them the producer's cell phone you have, the company phone, to call that when all this starts so that we can, or a day or two, if we can find out when they're coming, I will send you back to California so we can be there, or we can get citizen reporters, We Are Change, or 9-11 Truth, or Ron Paul Meetup Groups, whatever,

02:09:36.000 Uh... to cover this when they try to forcibly move him.

02:09:39.000 Schwarzenegger has said sometime in the next month.

02:09:42.000 Now he's been out there several times.

02:09:44.000 We're going to play a clip of that coming up in a few minutes.

02:09:49.000 Do they have any idea of when they're coming to throw him out?

02:09:52.000 They keep saying for what they're thinking is the end of May is what they keep hearing now.

02:09:56.000 The end of May is the time that they're going to have to be moved.

02:10:00.000 But they keep moving it.

02:10:02.000 A few weeks ago it was the end of April, before that it was the end of March, and now it's the end of May.

02:10:08.000 So they keep kind of pushing out the deadline.

02:10:09.000 Well if there's 350 people, how are they going to put them in something with 50 bunks?

02:10:16.000 Well, it's actually got, I think it's got 100 bunks and then they added another 50 more.

02:10:21.000 We're actually going to go out there today and talk to some people in a little bit.

02:10:25.000 We're going to drive out there and see what it's like.

02:10:27.000 Yeah, I want you, I want you to be there at 3 if you can.

02:10:31.000 I guess you guys are scheduled to come back tomorrow?

02:10:34.000 Uh, yeah, tomorrow, late in the evening, we're going to take off, I think about 6.30 at night.

02:10:38.000 Well, I mean, this is a key shoot.

02:10:39.000 You might think about moving the ticket to Wednesday, because I need you to go back through that archipelago to show these are people literally in the wild living back here, and how it's a lot larger than what the news even shows.

02:10:52.000 I want to show them showing up to get on the bus at 3.

02:10:57.000 So if you guys have to split up, that's fine.

02:10:59.000 But that's in about two hours, your time.

02:11:02.000 I want you to get up early, please, to show them coming out at 5 a.m.

02:11:06.000 Okay, I'm back.

02:11:10.000 Yeah, how much have you now, are they letting you as media?

02:11:14.000 Have you been out to the Expo Center yet?

02:11:16.000 Not yet.

02:11:17.000 The people here were, they're a little distrustful of the media because they said the media has blown this up and kind of caused the attention to come on us and now we're getting all these negative repercussions where before we were just kind of left alone.

02:11:31.000 One thing though, a church paid for some port-a-potties.

02:11:35.000 They got four port-a-potties out there for the people, and the city came and removed them after four days.

02:11:41.000 They said, no, they're not allowed to have port-a-potties out here. 1.00

02:11:44.000 So, you know, these guys are literally, you know, creating little makeshift bathrooms.

02:11:49.000 The one guy we've interviewed who actually, he has like five or six tents set up with, you know, wind barriers and stuff.

02:11:56.000 He actually made himself a bathroom that, you know, that they can use.

02:12:00.000 And uh... for his group.

02:12:03.000 Yeah, so the city claims they want sanitation.

02:12:05.000 That's why you've got to go to the prison.

02:12:06.000 And it is a little prison.

02:12:08.000 But then you can't have porta-potties out there.

02:12:10.000 This is just outrageous.

02:12:13.000 Now what did you guys witness in Los Angeles?

02:12:16.000 Los Angeles is uh... We drove around to a lot of areas.

02:12:20.000 We didn't see a lot of tent cities set up.

02:12:23.000 We were in the uh... we went to South Central.

02:12:25.000 We went to Koreatown.

02:12:27.000 And just driving around the whole city.

02:12:28.000 Jason He kind of knows the city by the back of his hand.

02:12:31.000 We start off in Long Beach.

02:12:33.000 We went to a park where supposedly, he said when he lived there, there was a ton of homeless people there.

02:12:38.000 I've seen a tent sitting in downtown L.A., but go ahead.

02:12:42.000 I guess they're always moving them, so they're hard to find.

02:12:45.000 I think they are.

02:12:46.000 Apparently they had some in Long Beach, and we talked to a couple people there, and they said, no, no, they moved them out a couple weeks ago, and they even gave us a tip saying they brought them to this National, um, uh, an Army Reserve base, and they gave us the address.

02:13:00.000 We went over there, and we didn't see anything there, and it looked like it was kind of closed up, but there was a few vehicles and a few buildings, but we didn't see anybody around.

02:13:08.000 Well, yeah, they probably moved them there and then somewhere else.

02:13:11.000 That's the scary part.

02:13:12.000 You can't go sleep in a park, can't sleep on a bench, most places they arrest you, can't go put a tent in the woods, they show up, and so, uh, I mean, I was in L.A.

02:13:20.000 a couple years ago and saw little tent cities and shantytowns, so you're saying those are basically gone, so where are these people going?

02:13:26.000 I don't know.

02:13:27.000 Now we met a guy, we were driving down this road and we saw an interesting billboard that has David De Rothschild on it, looking like Jesus Christ, talking about how he's this echo warrior, which we got some footage of.

02:13:39.000 And then just down the road from there, there's this big sign that this guy wrote about, you know, where's my bailout, Obama?

02:13:45.000 And he had this nice little kind of poem written.

02:13:47.000 We went in and interviewed him and he's losing his small business that he put a mortgage, a second mortgage out on his house to get this loan.

02:13:55.000 to teach massage.

02:13:56.000 He's like a chiropractor and a massage instructor.

02:14:00.000 So he set up his school and it was going good, but a lot of people, he's letting people in for, you know, kind of free or discounted rates to teach him.

02:14:08.000 'Cause he's out there just trying to help people and teach people.

02:14:10.000 And he wasn't able to keep up with his payment and his land, the person who owned that building, you know, finally had to cut him loose and she gave him the end of the month to get out.

02:14:20.000 And, uh, so he's got no way to make money now.

02:14:23.000 And he's got a house that he's about to lose.

02:14:25.000 And, and he's worried, you know, he might in two or three months, he might be out on the street, you know, and, and he's unable to get the loan.

02:14:33.000 They won't give him another loan.

02:14:34.000 You know, he's just kind of in this weird area where, you know, he wasn't able to make his payments for a couple months.

02:14:40.000 And that just snowballed into, well, now you have bad credit, now you can't, we're not going to give you any money, and now you're going to go live on the street, you know, basically.

02:14:48.000 Okay, but look, great, great.

02:14:50.000 Just, I mean, great that you're getting all this footage.

02:14:53.000 Too bad for him.

02:14:54.000 Specifically now, you're going to get me the phone numbers for some of these people, their names, we're going to have them on the show, and so they can report to us when things happen.

02:15:02.000 Don't lose that number.

02:15:03.000 Okay.

02:15:08.000 I want to get you down there to see them being showing up to have their cars and their bicycles locked up as they go into the camp.

02:15:18.000 Have you talked to them about letting you get into the camp?

02:15:21.000 The government facility?

02:15:23.000 In the Cal Expo?

02:15:25.000 We haven't gone up there.

02:15:26.000 We're going to go up there in a little while just to scatter it out and see what it's like.

02:15:29.000 We're going to be back at the Bus Depot pickup by 3.

02:15:33.000 And we're going to interview some people.

02:15:36.000 There's a couple of homeless shelters.

02:15:39.000 Basically, from where the tent city is, you walk through a small neighborhood that's got a couple streets of houses, and then a lot of industrial park type stuff.

02:15:50.000 There's a concrete maker, a granite place, and then an old machine shop.

02:15:53.000 And you walk through that and you hit 16th Street, and then you have a lot of the homeless shelters that are pretty much there at capacity.

02:16:01.000 I want you to go get footage how those are at capacity.

02:16:04.000 Or have you already gotten footage of that?

02:16:06.000 We have not got footage of that yet.

02:16:08.000 So that's what we'll do today.

02:16:10.000 And then we're gonna head back up tonight.

02:16:13.000 A couple people have, you know, they said, yeah, come back up.

02:16:15.000 We'll, you know, we'll show you how we live, you know, how we cook dinner.

02:16:19.000 And, you know, they actually, you know, they're able to find food.

02:16:23.000 You know, they make, they When they work, they make the money and they don't have to pay for rent, so they are able to use that money for cell phones or for food.

02:16:32.000 But the key is now, if they're forced into the tent city and they've got to be out at 5, in at 3, there's no way for most of them to be able to get jobs that they now have.

02:16:43.000 So here's the system making it where they can't live.

02:16:46.000 Exactly.

02:16:49.000 By them trying to better themselves and get a job, you know, that option is taken away from them.

02:16:54.000 And that's what, that's the crazy part about it, Alex.

02:16:56.000 It's like, you know, the government wants to pretend like it's going to help these people, but by trying to help them, they're just creating them, they're making them more dependent on the system.

02:17:06.000 Which is what, you know, which is what I think they want to do, to have that control over them.

02:17:11.000 Alright, specifically, where is Jason right now?

02:17:15.000 Is he still interviewing people?

02:17:17.000 I think he's still interviewing.

02:17:18.000 I haven't seen him yet.

02:17:19.000 I walked back to the car.

02:17:20.000 It's about, from where we parked, it's about a half a mile hike in and over the Well, I'm sorry I said I would have you on last hour and then now I had you on this hour.

02:17:31.000 I know that kind of messed you guys up.

02:17:33.000 Sometime tomorrow, do the hike all the way down through, you know, to show and find some of the hermits back there in the back.

02:17:39.000 We need to get people to clear picture of this.

02:17:41.000 But it's key, and you're doing a great job by the way, Rob, to get lots of footage of the other homeless shelters at capacity and this larger archipelago of homeless people now exploding in size.

02:17:52.000 Get back to work, my friend.

02:17:53.000 Good job.

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02:26:51.000 Karen Russo of the Wrongful Death and Injury Institute, covering the horrors of prison and a lot more.

02:27:11.000 There's powerful info coming up.

02:27:14.000 We'll be joining us Here in about eight minutes, quick five-minute segment, then a quick break, we'll come back and get right to her. 0.96

02:27:23.000 I'm going to intersperse a lot of other important news.

02:27:26.000 And at the end of the show, I want to play this video clip.

02:27:29.000 I forgot to give this to you guys.

02:27:33.000 My problem with Alex Jones from YouTube.

02:27:35.000 This is indicative of the type of stuff I get all day.

02:27:38.000 And he says, I'm mad at Alex for making the film, Zeitgeist, that criticizes Christianity.

02:27:43.000 I didn't make that film.

02:27:44.000 The guy used clips of me off the internet, mixed in with it.

02:27:48.000 He's in the New York Times attacking 9-11 Truth and us.

02:27:50.000 I'm not part of this.

02:27:51.000 I didn't make this movie.

02:27:53.000 I'm tired of being accused of all this stuff.

02:27:55.000 It doesn't bother me individually.

02:27:57.000 It's that people need to do more research before they haul off and accuse somebody of something.

02:28:01.000 So here's that clip.

02:28:02.000 Hey, do you guys have that little newscast from California with them, with the mayor saying, hey, I'm gonna, you know, this is tough love, you just can't be out here living in the woods?

02:28:09.000 Do you have that clip?

02:28:10.000 Yeah, let's go ahead and play that, then I'm gonna get into National Compulsory Service.

02:28:14.000 See, they're saying when you don't have a job, they're gonna put you in these work brigades.

02:28:17.000 And Roosevelt did that, but now they're talking about having militarized ones, or picking out the troops they want out of this.

02:28:23.000 So here it is.

02:28:24.000 A surprise visitor in Tent City today.

02:28:26.000 Governor Schwarzenegger dropped in to check out Sacramento's homeless problem for himself.

02:28:30.000 This video you'll only see right here on KCRA 3.

02:28:34.000 Tom Dohane joins us live from the homeless camp.

02:28:36.000 Tom, they've been getting visits from international media, but the governor?

02:28:40.000 Was this a surprise today?

02:28:41.000 Oh, definitely.

02:28:42.000 In California, the governor actually walking among the homeless in a large homeless camp.

02:28:47.000 Actually, the sight of Arnold Schwarzenegger today, for some of the people here, it was just stunning.

02:28:55.000 About 1230, Governor Schwarzenegger, accompanied by Mayor Kevin Johnson, was finishing an unannounced first-hand tour of Sacramento's now famous tent city.

02:29:04.000 We've got to find a balance between, you know, tough love and, you know, compassion and making sure we're listening to everyone, but we can't allow people to live in third-world conditions out here. 1.00

02:29:13.000 It's just not acceptable.

02:29:14.000 The governor stops to shake hands and talk with homeless campers.

02:29:18.000 Who were surprised and delighted.

02:29:20.000 It's amazing to have that much power come out here.

02:29:23.000 It just gives me a thrill.

02:29:25.000 I still got the goosebumps.

02:29:27.000 Seriously, I never met nobody that big before.

02:29:29.000 That was really nice because I've been here for like six years and nobody was showing up.

02:29:35.000 No presidents, no mayors, nobody.

02:29:38.000 Now everybody was trying to help us.

02:29:40.000 The mayor said the visit was arranged at the governor's request.

02:29:43.000 He was out here To really just see first-hand what's out here.

02:29:48.000 And I think he got a good idea of hearing that everyone out here has a different story.

02:29:52.000 And, you know, his commitment is to do whatever he can to help our city, you know, achieve the ultimate goal, which is a creative environment where everyone long-term has a home.

02:30:01.000 And we're back live here at Ten City.

02:30:03.000 You can see the evening activity here as people get prepared to settle in before it turns dark.

02:30:08.000 All right, let me analyze the newscast now.

02:30:11.000 Let me analyze it.

02:30:13.000 Arnold, it's like he's president, he's got like 15 bodyguards, they even keep the press back.

02:30:18.000 Arnold would shake a few hands and they would get security guards all around and he would reach his hand like three feet away and barely shake them like that.

02:30:26.000 And just absolutely amazing.

02:30:28.000 And then they picked the few people, guaranteed, who were like, oh I love it, oh he's so big, oh I feel so powerful that he's here, oh it's so powerful.

02:30:38.000 When this is the guy who's ordering them moved out of there to the little FEMA camp where they get patted down and wanded, as we told you they did, now that's confirmed, to go into the camp, the fairgrounds, with barbed wire.

02:30:53.000 I mean, you've got to be there at 3, you've got to leave every day at 3 o'clock, you've got, or you have to be there by 3 o'clock, you have to leave at 5 a.m., very hard to have a job that way.

02:31:01.000 And most of these people are using this as a staging ground to then go get jobs.

02:31:04.000 So, again, that's how the media spins things, that's how disingenuous they are, and there's that.

02:31:12.000 Mayor sitting there, you know, saying, you know, this is tough love.

02:31:15.000 Yeah, tough love.

02:31:16.000 We're going to go stick you in this facility. 1.00

02:31:19.000 And then there's this archipelago of other homeless shelters that are official government shelters and private shelters all around the fairgrounds and the Expo Center where the people are being held.

02:31:31.000 So you're going to see more and more of this across the country.

02:31:37.000 So, we will come back with our guest, Karen Russo, the Wrongful Death and Injury Institute, never had her on the show before.

02:31:43.000 I did her on Albrecht Show, it was very, very informative, and a lot of other news interspersed.

02:31:49.000 We'll also tell you about National Compulsory Draft, it's been reintroduced again.

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02:32:57.000 Barack Obama is the tip of the spear.

02:33:00.000 We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

02:33:08.000 The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.

02:33:14.000 Well, Obama's already fudging.

02:33:16.000 He's fudged since day one in this election.

02:33:19.000 If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.

02:33:30.000 It's not about left or right.

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02:33:34.000 This film documents who Obama works for, the lies he is told, and his real agenda.

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02:34:54.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.

02:34:59.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

02:35:03.000 There certainly is, my friends, and that's why I'm here live, Monday through Friday from 11 a.m.

02:35:07.000 to 3 p.m.

02:35:08.000 Central Standard Time.

02:35:09.000 I come back in on Sunday night from 4 to 6 p.m.

02:35:12.000 Central, because so much happens over the weekend.

02:35:15.000 That's 22 hours live a week, ladies and gentlemen, of radio transmission.

02:35:21.000 And we do it because we're aware of the globalist threat, what the New World Order is up to.

02:35:25.000 We know if we warn the people, they can take action against it and defeat it.

02:35:29.000 Now, I rescheduled her a few times because so much has happened in the last few weeks.

02:35:32.000 I apologize, but I've read over her material, a lot of great research, because I've done so much research on so many subjects, I can tell when somebody's accurate info.

02:35:40.000 And is really addressing what's happening and she's got so much more knowledge than I do, you know, on this subject.

02:35:44.000 I can just vet and tell you that what she's saying is accurate.

02:35:47.000 Karen Russo of the Wrongful Death and Injury Institute, and you can go to her website, wrongfuldeathinstitute.com.

02:35:56.000 We'll put a link to that up on screen as it is right now on prisonplanet.tv.

02:36:02.000 Just boil it down for us, how you got into this, your research.

02:36:06.000 You cover a lot of different areas, but I've heard you on the radio talking about On the Genesis Network, specifically, prisons.

02:36:12.000 And people can say, oh, well, they're feeding them, you know, half their diet are more of soy.

02:36:16.000 Well, they admit it's full of estrogen-mimicking hormones.

02:36:16.000 What's wrong with that?

02:36:19.000 Men grow breasts. 1.00

02:36:20.000 They have serious health problems. 0.92

02:36:21.000 They gain weight.

02:36:23.000 They're feeding this close to half the diet in public schools is now soy-based.

02:36:27.000 So that's just one small issue you cover, though, isn't it?

02:36:27.000 Same thing there.

02:36:33.000 Well, tell us about yourself, what you do, and then break down what's really happening right now in America.

02:36:37.000 Well, Alex, I'll give you the cliff note version as far as I can do it, and I'm not real good at doing this, but we'll give it a whirl.

02:36:44.000 We consult with families of inmates, specifically, but not just necessarily in the prison system, regarding medical and death issues.

02:36:54.000 Medical issues, as you well know, can cover the gamut, and that goes anywhere from dietary needs to the cost of prison health care within the State Departments of Correction and death issues insofar as it affects the medical examiner system nationwide and the egregious practices of the funeral home industry.

02:37:15.000 So whatever happens in a prison system when it comes to dealing with medical issues, we zero in on, basically shine a light in a very dark corner Uh, to help families either advocate for the inmate that they're trying to fight for the life of or find out answers for those inmates that have died and the families have been, um, disallowed the information.

02:37:41.000 Well, we know there's medical experimentation.

02:37:43.000 Take Huntsville, Texas.

02:37:44.000 It's even leaked out in the Houston Chronicle, where the jail guards started getting sick and dying, and their families, and they were selling dioxin into the prisoners' backs.

02:37:52.000 They were saying, you don't get any good food for a year unless you do this.

02:37:55.000 They were doing medical experiments. 0.78

02:37:57.000 You know, medical experiments, not just to ski with black folks. 1.00

02:37:59.000 You know, that's a good example, because folks all seem to know about that.

02:38:02.000 So that's going on.

02:38:03.000 You've got their diet.

02:38:05.000 You've got just all this hellish stuff.

02:38:07.000 Break down some of the worst cases you've seen in your research and some of the things that are happening.

02:38:11.000 Well, I think the worst systemic issue that crossed our desk a couple of years ago was the blood scandal in the Arkansas Department of Corrections regarding Factor 8.

02:38:25.000 And if anybody wants to really get well-versed in that issue, just Google in the keywords Factor VIII and you'll get a wealth of information on that.

02:38:34.000 Yeah, Bayer Pharmaceutical knowingly, Bill Clinton and others, all the world, for a decade after they knew it all had HIV and Hepatitis, mixed it all together as Factor VIII, sold to hemophiliacs and others worldwide, hundreds of thousands.

02:38:44.000 Worldwide is the operative word.

02:38:46.000 And Kelly Duda was the producer of that movie.

02:38:50.000 He ended up eventually, a year or so ago, testifying in London, England.

02:38:55.000 Regarding that issue.

02:38:56.000 And by the way, the prosthesis doctor that exposed that in the first prison, he got firebombed the same night the Hemophiliac Society... That's not unusual.

02:39:06.000 He got firebombed in Arkansas the same night, for those that don't know, the Hemophiliac Society suing got robbed in Canada.

02:39:13.000 Go ahead.

02:39:14.000 Yeah, and honestly, on the big radar screen of prison healthcare, these are just blips on the radar screen.

02:39:22.000 The systemic problem that we've seen over the last 20 years is the issue of health care that the taxpayers in every state are paying for over and above what the costs are for the Department of Corrections.

02:39:37.000 And these inmates are not being given, and the key words are, the adequate community standard of health care already paid for by your tax dollars.

02:39:48.000 So when they're cut loose, and there are 700,000 inmates that are released every year, the majority of this percentage of inmates either have not been diagnosed with a very severe disease, or they have been diagnosed and inadequately treated, and they're released out into the public, and everybody out here will say, well, you know, hell, we don't want to give inmates medical care.

02:40:12.000 Why do we, why do the inmates get better health care than we do out here?

02:40:16.000 And the actuality of it is, No, they don't.

02:40:20.000 It's a misunderstanding of how the system is set up.

02:40:25.000 It's a very bad misunderstanding on the general public because they're ignorant as to the fact of how Department of Corrections works and how the money is managed and appropriated.

02:40:38.000 Well, it's just like the VA, anything the government runs, you see all these huge expenditures and only 30-40% actually goes to medical care.

02:40:46.000 The rest is bureaucracy, corruption, medical tests, manipulation.

02:40:49.000 Yes, it is.

02:40:50.000 But in this case, what we advocate so strongly for, you know, I can tell a family member, yes, I understand your pain and all this other stuff that you're going through.

02:41:01.000 But the bottom line is, the information is out here for you to get.

02:41:07.000 And in order to hold them accountable.

02:41:09.000 Now the problem is, as you eloquently stated in past shows, the majority of John Q Public has no idea how to access a government website.

02:41:20.000 And when they do access it, they don't know how to read it because the words are so convoluted and misleading.

02:41:26.000 And they cannot connect the dots.

02:41:28.000 So they don't understand how a general assembly appropriation is going to affect their inmate and how it trickles down to their rank-and-file medical care out here.

02:41:41.000 Because every time an inmate gets let loose and he's got HIV, HCV, TB, MRSA, meningitis, you name it, every time they're released out here, it is going to affect you.

02:41:54.000 Next time you run through a fast food thing, understand who's washing the dishes.

02:41:59.000 Let's expand on that.

02:42:01.000 Let's expand on that.

02:42:02.000 You see it in medical journals, but you never see it in the news.

02:42:06.000 Massive drug-resistant TB from illegal aliens in the prisons infecting everybody.

02:42:10.000 Massive.

02:42:11.000 Well, it's not illegal aliens.

02:42:12.000 Well, I understand.

02:42:14.000 It's spreading out to everybody, but 7,000 cases in one year alone, and there were no cases before that of wet leprosy.

02:42:21.000 Wait, wait, wait.

02:42:22.000 You've got to be really careful with these numbers.

02:42:26.000 And this is the other issue, when you're spouting off, and I don't mean that the way it came out, spouting off numbers about statistics... No, I understand.

02:42:35.000 The majority of the statistical tracking, when it is generated by the Department of Corrections, or the Bureau of Justice that took this to task a couple of years ago, the numbers are off.

02:42:48.000 It's worse.

02:42:49.000 They are not reporting, for example, Prison Deaths Act I'll give you an example.

02:42:54.000 If I've got an inmate XYZ who, let's just, suicide is an issue, especially in your state. 0.98

02:43:01.000 So I'll just take suicide as an example.

02:43:04.000 Somebody is screaming in the cell block that inmate XYZ has hung himself.

02:43:09.000 And they know that he is either in the process of or has already completed that task.

02:43:14.000 And these inmates within the cell block may be screaming bloody murder at the top of their lungs for these correctional officers to get down there to see what's going on.

02:43:24.000 Now, I can give you a case in point.

02:43:26.000 It took two and a half hours for correctional staff to get down to a unit in the Clements, um, um, I don't mean Estelle unit in your state.

02:43:37.000 Yes.

02:43:38.000 Guy is clearly dead, has been dead for hours.

02:43:43.000 And what the standard operating procedure for a Department of Correction staff is, you never pronounce that inmate dead on site, ever.

02:43:51.000 And if you do, It's usually because a correctional officer is new at his job, or he's panicking, or he's nervous.

02:43:58.000 It's one of those three.

02:44:00.000 So what they'll do, if the cell block is already abseg, administrative segregation, or solitary, these guys are already locked down anyway.

02:44:09.000 If it isn't, they're going to lock down the cell block, and they're going to call medical.

02:44:13.000 Medical does not necessarily show up in rapid pace time.

02:44:19.000 And they do that premeditatedly.

02:44:21.000 The first thing the majority of them will do is go to an inmate's file to see if they've got a DNR on file.

02:44:27.000 Do not resuscitate order.

02:44:29.000 If medical staff sees that there is a DNR on file, they're going to take their sweet time getting to that cell block.

02:44:35.000 Because that DNR is their ticket to not having to treat him.

02:44:41.000 Even if he had a 50-50 chance of making it.

02:44:43.000 And that's why they're wanting the general public to sign these, because now you could be helped at the hospital, but the hospital wants $300,000 for your organs, they then don't give you treatment.

02:44:52.000 Yeah, but I don't want to get off point here.

02:44:55.000 So if you've got an inmate that's got a DNR, they're not going to show up fast enough, but they'll show up.

02:45:03.000 So the next thing, either the medical staff is going to call, or the DOC staff is going to call an ambulance.

02:45:09.000 Ambulance is going to show up, and these poor guys have no idea where they're going, and they get into the cell block anywhere from 10, 15, maybe 20, even 30 minutes later.

02:45:21.000 Now, if there's no DNR on file, they're going to have to go ahead and perform life-saving measures, which is what they always do. 0.95

02:45:29.000 So, if all the commotion is heard in the cell block by these other inmates, they are assuming that the guy is still alive, although these inmates are not stupid.

02:45:38.000 They already know the guy is probably dead because they understand the DOC personnel better than anybody.

02:45:44.000 So the guy is basically, the dead inmate is in rigor mortis, for example, and paramedics are going to take him out of there as if he was alive and breathing.

02:45:54.000 And they're going to pronounce him dead either on the way to the hospital Or, at the hospital ER.

02:46:00.000 And here's why I don't like the way they do this.

02:46:02.000 Well, it's a form of covering up the deaths, but go ahead.

02:46:05.000 Well, it's covering up the deaths, and it's not attributed to the very facility where the death occurred, and it's not attributed to the DOC.

02:46:11.000 That's right, they then statistically... And when the DOC, and then, when they have to do cause and manner of death, It's always going to be, in cases like this, natural causes.

02:46:19.000 Okay, we got a break.

02:46:20.000 We got a break.

02:46:21.000 And so, when we come back, we're going to continue getting into this.

02:46:26.000 But I would just add, really, more than 15,000 U.S.

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02:51:02.000 This is what Karen Russo, the Wrongful Death and Injury Institute, does full-time. 0.99

02:51:10.000 But we've gone the prison population in 1980 from a couple hundred thousand to 4 million, and it just keeps going up and up and up. - More people in prison than any other country in the world, not just per capita, but period.

02:51:23.000 And you take the Texas Youth Commission alone, little kids, junior high, high school, Public rape rooms all over the news.

02:51:33.000 Just unbelievable numbers.

02:51:36.000 Corruption, nothing can stop them. 0.95

02:51:38.000 All the pedophiles that want to go be jail guards.

02:51:42.000 To even try to get into this, it's just unbelievable.

02:51:44.000 But it is what people say, so what about those prisoners?

02:51:47.000 They're in hot tubs watching cable.

02:51:49.000 That's all lies.

02:51:50.000 What does this say about the establishment and about the government?

02:51:53.000 I mean, take two-thirds of foster children plus 67% nationwide are on more than one psychotropic drug.

02:52:01.000 And the state testified in Texas and all over the country.

02:52:03.000 They said, well, they have bad gene pools. 0.99

02:52:06.000 With no science.

02:52:07.000 Well, we just drug them because of this. 0.95

02:52:08.000 Going back to Karen Russo.

02:52:10.000 Karen, I want to get into the soy issue, the diets.

02:52:12.000 I mean, there's so many, but just continue with whatever you think is most important.

02:52:16.000 I'll hit on the diet.

02:52:19.000 And I want to zero in on a couple of stats, just so people can kind of get a handle on the numbers that we're talking about here.

02:52:25.000 We are the only country in the world that incarcerates this many human beings.

02:52:30.000 That is correct.

02:52:30.000 There are 2.3 million folks locked up in a jail or a prison today.

02:52:34.000 5.1 million, in addition to that 2.3 million, are on probation and parole.

02:52:40.000 That's a total of 7.4 million people.

02:52:43.000 Now let me stop you.

02:52:44.000 I saw CBS News last year said 4 million.

02:52:47.000 I'd always seen the two and a half million.

02:52:49.000 I really think you can do with anything with statistics, but it goes back.

02:52:53.000 And I'm a real stickler for this, even with my clients.

02:52:56.000 Statistics are statistics.

02:52:58.000 No, no, that's what I'm asking you, because you study this.

02:53:00.000 What's the real number from your... 2.3 million are locked up.

02:53:03.000 Alright.

02:53:04.000 5.1 are on probation and parole.

02:53:07.000 Now, total, obviously, 7.4.

02:53:09.000 Now, my argument has always been, when families are so exasperated at what to do, which is, there are a whole bunch of reasons why they don't know what to do, but if you took 7.4 million, and you averaged that each family had four family members, each inmate had four family members, That, if you do the math, that's 30 million people, over 30 million people that are affected directly by incarceration.

02:53:37.000 And that number is 10% of the entire U.S.

02:53:41.000 population as it stands today, which is 306 million.

02:53:45.000 Now, the reason I say that is that when families feel so chastised or intimidated or put down, one of the biggest problems they have is not taking responsibility for the information that's available to them in order to fight.

02:54:05.000 And if they pooled their resources together, and I don't necessarily mean finances, but if they all got together under one entity, which is what we've been trying to do for the last 15 years, and you became cohesive, kind of like the MADD organization was when they first started out.

02:54:24.000 You had two women, literally, Sitting across from each other at a kitchen table drinking coffee. 0.99

02:54:31.000 And look what their efforts did.

02:54:34.000 A national organization that affected some really major changes within a very serious situation.

02:54:39.000 Same thing applies here to this.

02:54:42.000 So that is one of the key issues.

02:54:44.000 The numbers are there in order to affect some very major legislative changes in this country.

02:54:49.000 And in effect, it would be the largest voting bloc in the history of the United States.

02:54:53.000 Now what the politicians in each state DOC don't want anybody to know is that fact.

02:54:59.000 And that's one of the key reasons why these inmates are disenfranchised. 0.98

02:55:04.000 They aren't stupid. 0.69

02:55:05.000 You know, they understand how the system works, they understand how these politicians work, and they certainly understand what is said versus what is done to them. 0.56

02:55:13.000 Especially when it comes to their medical health care.

02:55:17.000 And folks, like you said, will say, oh, well, you know, what the heck?

02:55:20.000 Why in the world do we have to pay for health care for inmates?

02:55:23.000 Well, you better pay for it, because you're going to pay for it one way or the other.

02:55:27.000 You're either going to pay for it in taxes, in a contract that's not doing their job, or you're going to pay for it in Medicaid and Medicare.

02:55:34.000 Regardless, you can't have the moral standing of not giving people proper health care, because that creates an evil precedent in government for everybody.

02:55:41.000 Well, it's illegal, for one thing.

02:55:45.000 Alright, that they get medical care, so it's not even an argument anymore.

02:55:48.000 They're going to get it.

02:55:49.000 It's just a matter of how they're going to get it and how, you know, when is the lightbulb going to go on to the general public that you're actually paying for this?

02:55:58.000 And they're not being appropriated correctly, and no one within the Department of Corrections or the contracted health care providers, and there are over 60 of them operating in the United States today.

02:56:10.000 These contracted health care providers, which are public or private, ...are not being held accountable.

02:56:15.000 And it's clearly getting worse as society unravels.

02:56:18.000 There's no oversight.

02:56:20.000 I mean, you know, they can admit, oh, at dozens of locations they raped the children publicly in Texas, and that's just the way it is. 0.68

02:56:27.000 Oh, at CPS facilities from Florida to Michigan, the kids sleep on linoleum floors and bedsores in their own feces, like Russia. 0.98

02:56:35.000 They go, oh, that's just what government does. 0.64

02:56:36.000 So it's all part of a larger situation.

02:56:39.000 Let's talk about their diets when we come back.

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03:00:08.000 They're making him go to basically a FEMA facility.

03:00:11.000 Now, there are prisoners there.

03:00:12.000 We've confirmed that with the wands and the searches.

03:00:15.000 We also had We Are Change pop out about Luke Hradowski and other reporters being arrested for trespassing at a major hotel when they weren't told to leave.

03:00:22.000 They said, stay here, and then said, we told you to leave, you wouldn't.

03:00:26.000 But a lot of shows this week.

03:00:27.000 I'm going to open the phones up and take a lot of calls, because I want to get back and take more calls.

03:00:31.000 But there's so many guests, so much information we want to put out as well.

03:00:34.000 It's a Catch-22.

03:00:34.000 Karen Russo.

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03:00:44.000 My website of course is infowars.com.

03:00:48.000 Just a great tyranny going on in the prisons and the CPS and handicapped people, you name it. 1.00

03:00:55.000 I mean, it's going all over the world.

03:00:56.000 This is what government does when the good people stop getting involved and organized.

03:01:00.000 So before you leave, get into how folks need to get organized and some of the powers they do have to try to rectify this, because it will only get worse if we don't.

03:01:07.000 But let's get into some of the other horrors that folks aren't aware of, turning over this rock.

03:01:11.000 The diet alone.

03:01:12.000 You're like, who cares what they eat?

03:01:14.000 Well, the diet's making them sick, and then more money for health care. 0.76

03:01:16.000 Explain that.

03:01:18.000 Well, the whole modus operandi behind the Department of Corrections is cost containment.

03:01:25.000 When anybody goes to their government website and pulls up the Department of Corrections budget, you're going to see an astronomical amount.

03:01:34.000 That is probably one of the highest budgets within the state government that there will be, is the DOC budget.

03:01:41.000 So their whole goal is to contain costs, whether it's healthcare, medical services, or food stuff.

03:01:49.000 I don't think it's any news to any of your listening audience.

03:01:53.000 It sure isn't any news to the inmates that the food within a prison system is about a D minus or an F.

03:01:59.000 They suspect, the inmates suspect, that a lot of it is contaminated.

03:02:05.000 A lot of them do get sick.

03:02:07.000 A lot of prison facilities around the country have modified their dietary requirements to where some prisons don't even serve meat anymore. - Sure.

03:02:23.000 So you have some issues there that clearly affect health overall.

03:02:27.000 And one area that it affects tremendously is that of diabetes.

03:02:32.000 And I don't think it's any news to all of you too that diabetics have to really monitor what they eat.

03:02:39.000 Prison is not conducive to diabetics.

03:02:44.000 As such, the majority of these individuals, if they have outside family members that put money on their accounts, which allow them to go to the commissary and buy other foods that are more conducive to maintaining their diabetic blood sugar levels, they will opt to go to a commissary rather than eat in the chow line.

03:03:06.000 For inmates that do not have anybody To put money on their accounts.

03:03:10.000 They are forced to eat the food in the prison.

03:03:14.000 And what that does, they get extremely obese.

03:03:17.000 Their blood sugar levels go off the charts.

03:03:19.000 The blood sugar levels in a prison setting, the average is anywhere from 200 to 550.

03:03:26.000 And that is considered normal for State Departments of Correction Medical Health Care Units.

03:03:32.000 They don't even worry about it.

03:03:34.000 So if an inmate falls out from a coma or a diabetic coma, They're going to attribute it, always, in the medical record, it's going to be the inmate's fault for not maintaining a healthy and proper diet.

03:03:48.000 And it's a catch-22.

03:03:49.000 It's not only a catch-22, it's like putting these inmates and their families on a gerbil wheel.

03:03:54.000 You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't, and it's never going to be the prison's fault because they're like Teflon.

03:04:00.000 They want nothing sticking on them, and they're going to go out of their way to document that way.

03:04:04.000 But explain, through the bureaucracy, explain to people just the soy alone.

03:04:12.000 As a health care detriment?

03:04:15.000 Yes.

03:04:16.000 Well, get me on a track you want me to go on, because I'll veer off and we'll miss the whole point.

03:04:23.000 Well, no, no.

03:04:24.000 I mean, I just happen to know that more and more they're feeding him soy that has the estrogen mimickers and that's causing him to grow breasts, become very unhealthy, and all the problems that that causes.

03:04:34.000 Well, it does, but you know, and here's the other thing.

03:04:37.000 Well, on the point of that, if inmates suspect this, And they have verifiable proof, or somebody's told them, and you really don't even have to have proof.

03:04:49.000 All one has to do, if I'm an inmate, is I'm going to contact somebody on the outside, preferably a family member, and this is why family members become so important.

03:04:59.000 They have the skill and the ability and the information in front of them to go after these contracts.

03:05:06.000 These prisons have contracts with everything.

03:05:10.000 Nothing happens in that prison without a contract.

03:05:12.000 And the same thing goes for the food stuff.

03:05:14.000 So if somebody suspects that soy is being delivered to the inmate population at an unbelievable rate and the soy may be contaminated itself, all one has to do is access the contract through the Department of Corrections and request a copy of it.

03:05:29.000 They have to give it to you.

03:05:32.000 So, rather than have question marks around everything that happens with an inmate, which is what we do with our clients and the families, Damn, if you're telling me that your loved one suspects that we've got contaminated food on the shelf and they're being fed this and it hasn't changed in six months, let's go get the contract and see if it has been.

03:05:50.000 Let's explain why that happens a lot throughout history.

03:05:52.000 You've got big corporations that have jumped, they can't sell the stores, but they'll do little side deals, there's lots of corruption and payoffs that have come out in the news, and they'll sell it and force it on the inmates.

03:06:02.000 Sure they will.

03:06:03.000 And the same thing with medication.

03:06:05.000 If medications, it's no news to inmates again, that medications can be in the medical unit that are completely expired.

03:06:14.000 And they're using these medications.

03:06:16.000 Alright, let's go over this though in the time we have.

03:06:18.000 You brought up factor VIII being a big issue.

03:06:20.000 Knowing they had HIV and Hepatitis, letting them give the blood, not once a month like they're supposed to, but every week, and then somehow drugs are getting into the prison from the jail guards and others, so there's a business within there.

03:06:31.000 It's all they've got to sell is blood, and then people get AIDS from it.

03:06:35.000 I mean, this is insane, and I'm sure in all your research, you've run into all the news reports about medical testing, where these are ignorant inmates, or they need money, and they say, oh, we've got medical experiments we'll do on you if you do this.

03:06:46.000 Do you have anything on that, or more on Factor VIII?

03:06:50.000 Yes, on the medical experiments, and I do not have the data in front of me to tell you statistics on that.

03:06:57.000 But, in essence, do they take place?

03:06:59.000 Well, I'm sure they do.

03:07:01.000 But, in order to have that done, inmates have got to sign off on stuff.

03:07:05.000 You know, they're going to have to sign forms.

03:07:08.000 And if they don't sign forms, then that's cause for alarm.

03:07:12.000 I'm going to make a conjecture here that very few inmates are going to succumb to some kind of a medical experiment without signing a form.

03:07:21.000 No, no, they have them do that, but the food they can't eat, so they say, do this, and we'll give you easy labor, we'll give you good food.

03:07:27.000 Well, you know, that's on the inmates. 0.94

03:07:30.000 And I'm not going to, that's almost a wasted argument, only from the standpoint is As I said before, inmates aren't stupid. 0.90

03:07:38.000 They know how to live, they know how to survive within a prison setting, far beyond what any person out here in society knows how to do.

03:07:44.000 And we can't even imagine what they have to go through, we can only guess.

03:07:48.000 Because we're not going to be told, and very few inmates want to talk about it.

03:07:52.000 So, I'm real hesitant to say, oh golly gee whiz, the government's really taking advantage of these people.

03:07:59.000 Are they taking advantage of them?

03:08:01.000 Maybe.

03:08:02.000 And not being Transparent and forthcoming as to exactly what the medical testing is.

03:08:08.000 However, these inmates can push the envelope to find out.

03:08:12.000 So if they really don't want to find out, and they really don't care, it could be even a form of suicide.

03:08:17.000 They just go, well, whatever.

03:08:18.000 I understand that, but I mean, here's an example.

03:08:20.000 I can pull up the headlines right now.

03:08:22.000 I covered them two weeks ago, where they tell homeless people in Europe, this is a regular flu shot.

03:08:27.000 We'll pay 200 euros to take it.

03:08:30.000 And they take it, and it's a bird flu experimental shot, and they all die.

03:08:34.000 So there's lots of lying by Big Pharma.

03:08:36.000 Well, absolutely.

03:08:38.000 But see, I think it goes back again.

03:08:40.000 People aren't thinking and people aren't asking questions.

03:08:44.000 You just don't, don't take anybody's word for anything.

03:08:46.000 I tell my clients all the time, if it's not documented and you don't have it in front of you in black and white, then it ain't happening.

03:08:53.000 It doesn't exist and it's not happening.

03:08:55.000 And you've got to learn to zero in on facts and require facts from the very people that are trying to give them to you.

03:09:02.000 And don't take anybody's word for it until you get the same answer in three different places.

03:09:07.000 Now, the prison population is continuing to balloon.

03:09:11.000 They are using the public schools kind of as induction centers into the prison institutionalization grid.

03:09:17.000 Is there any view on when this is going to top off, or how many it will end up being?

03:09:21.000 We already have a record number.

03:09:24.000 I would, in every state, due to the economy, and your state's one of them, they're looking for ways to cut these inmates loose early.

03:09:32.000 They can't afford them.

03:09:36.000 In your state, for example, the Pew Foundation is working on a deal with the Texas Department of Corrections and your state politicians, trying to figure out ways to cut costs and let some of these inmates that are in there for petty crimes loose.

03:09:56.000 Now, the problem is, in order to cut those costs, the Board of Probation and Parole has got to come on board and agree with them.

03:10:05.000 And guess what your state Board of Probation and Parole has said they're going to do.

03:10:10.000 Nothing.

03:10:11.000 They're not going to reroute their guidelines.

03:10:13.000 They're not going to change their guidelines.

03:10:15.000 So what that tells me, because they're refusing to change the guidelines for release, somebody in the statistical world is going to start, as they always do, determining in cycles when prisons need to be built, when juvenile detention centers need to be built, and when high schools need to be built.

03:10:33.000 Because they're going to take a certain percentage of the population between a certain age group to determine when that population is going to hit that key mark of whether it's 17 to 22 or 17 to 23, when they have the propensity to offend the highest.

03:10:52.000 And we've had a baby boom.

03:10:53.000 They've had a baby boom.

03:10:54.000 That determines when they're going to build these prisons. 0.94

03:10:56.000 I don't ever see, I really don't ever see the prison population In the foreseeable future, becoming less very fast.

03:11:06.000 That's right.

03:11:07.000 No matter what happens to the economy, they're going to keep the peaceful potheads in there. 1.00

03:11:10.000 Well, that's exactly right.

03:11:12.000 And the lifers in there, even if you've got life with the possibility of parole, they don't want to cut these guys loose.

03:11:19.000 Without these inmates in there, they can't keep the doors open.

03:11:21.000 These prisoners are a commodity.

03:11:23.000 And prisons is big business.

03:11:26.000 It is big business.

03:11:27.000 You've got at least four prison HMOs that have got the corner on the market in the entire United States.

03:11:34.000 And it's only going to get better.

03:11:36.000 Billions.

03:11:37.000 And so they're going to make more laws for more of us in prison, and then feed us poison.

03:11:41.000 Now expanding on that, you keep talking about your state, your state, we're on in many states all over the country, but I am sitting in the capital of Austin, Texas, while the legislature is in session.

03:11:52.000 And Texas is, for those that don't know, the U.S.

03:11:55.000 is the capital of prisons in the world, but Texas is the king.

03:12:02.000 California's number two.

03:12:04.000 California's number one.

03:12:05.000 Okay, well then I guess a few years ago Texas was still number one.

03:12:10.000 But I know Texas brings people in from other states, though.

03:12:12.000 I've read many places that Texas is number one.

03:12:17.000 I'll just make the argument, it's one or two.

03:12:19.000 It's just like the prison HMOs, depending on the contracts, and you just set it, depending on how many outside inmates you're importing.

03:12:28.000 You're going to get money for those too.

03:12:29.000 Yeah, with those numbers, I believe Texas is numero uno.

03:12:31.000 I know there's a huge illegal alien influx in that crime wave in California that it may have grown past that.

03:12:37.000 Boy, you've got that problem for sure.

03:12:37.000 Boy, that's a whole other issue.

03:12:40.000 And they're allowed to kill people, and there's no extradition, so they run back across the border.

03:12:45.000 So that's a lot of fun there.

03:12:46.000 But they want to let those guys go.

03:12:49.000 They've got to keep the potheads in jail. 1.00

03:12:52.000 So that continues there, as the rocket attacks and car bombings intensify on the Texas border.

03:13:00.000 Yeah, I know it's big business.

03:13:01.000 I'm sure you heard about the Thule in Texas case, where they grabbed 56 black people with no drugs or planted them on them and knew they were innocent, to literally put them in the town prison because that was the only business?

03:13:11.000 Yeah.

03:13:13.000 Not uncommon.

03:13:15.000 It happens everywhere.

03:13:17.000 And this is the kind of stuff people are not aware of.

03:13:18.000 Of course, there are people that happen to be aware of it, but then when they say it, everybody thinks they're nuts.

03:13:24.000 It's exactly what's happening.

03:13:27.000 It's exactly what's happening.

03:13:28.000 And they need the money.

03:13:30.000 You know, without those inmates in there, they can't open those doors.

03:13:33.000 And people need to remember, correctional staff doesn't run these prisons, these inmates run it.

03:13:39.000 Without these inmates doing the work, they don't stay awake.

03:13:43.000 And God forbid that we actually shut some prisons, you know, the factories can close, everything else can go bankrupt, all the shops can close, but you will just have prisons and police and troops marching up and down the street, and that's the new economy we're converting into.

03:13:58.000 That's pretty true.

03:13:59.000 That's pretty true, and we haven't even hit on these prison HMOs, these managed healthcare companies.

03:14:03.000 Yeah, go over that.

03:14:04.000 It's just like an HMO out here.

03:14:05.000 These guys, these corporations, are just unrelentless.

03:14:12.000 They give the facade of healthcare without giving it, and they put roadblocks after roadblocks in front of these inmates and play with them as far as What they're required to do in the prison system, form-wise, and absolutely, categorically, premeditatedly denying them the adequate health care that they're presenting themselves with.

03:14:35.000 The VA's doing that, and now Obama's announced, Associated Press, that he wanted the troops to pay for their own health care.

03:14:41.000 Oh, yeah, and you know, I really, I do believe, if this health care thing pans out the way everybody says it's going to, which I think is a real possibility, I wrote Something a while back that says, just prison health care for everybody.

03:14:57.000 Because that's what it's going to end up like.

03:14:58.000 See, I didn't read your writing, but that's what I know.

03:15:00.000 Everything is converting to this, here's an aspirin for your heart attack, here's your government, here's your government paid for health care, and then the corporations just keep all the money.

03:15:10.000 That's their socialized health care, yeah.

03:15:12.000 That's exactly right.

03:15:13.000 And what we try to do with these families is, you've got to learn how to document against these folks.

03:15:19.000 And that's what we do.

03:15:20.000 Our consulting is you've got to learn how to do it and to learn how to do it you're really going to have to commit your time and your resources Um, in order to fight for the inmate because they cannot do it on their own.

03:15:33.000 Well, my father's thought about even getting out of dentistry and oral surgery because with the new federal rules and all of it, you know, they have computers now just like the regular doctors and the person has an HMO or insurance, it tells you what you can do and he says it's totally illegal.

03:15:49.000 He caused a big stink and his company and sent some letters to the state and you pointed out this is a violation of state law and federal law that the computers are practicing medicine now and then stopped it but most of the doctors and just bow down yes yes whatever the government says oh my god i love you well i really think that's what people are headed for and everybody that thought that obama's deal with such a great idea a lot of my clients fit that mold

03:16:15.000 They're fast finding out that what they thought was bad health care is fixing to get a whole bunch worse.

03:16:22.000 And those inmates are going to get it worse than they already have it, which is bad enough.

03:16:26.000 And we're going to get a taste of what they've been getting.

03:16:30.000 Amazing.

03:16:31.000 It's absolutely unbelievable.

03:16:34.000 And the prescription drug companies are right up there with them.

03:16:38.000 And you're right when you said in your comment earlier, if they can drug these guys up 23 out of 24, It's a lot easier to manage them.

03:16:45.000 And then when they get cut loose, when they get released, they're handed basically a Ziploc bag of psychotropic and prescription drugs that they cannot afford.

03:16:54.000 So when they run out of that Ziploc bag, the only thing they know to do since they've been become, courtesy of your state DOC and your prison health care contract, prescription drug addicts, the only thing that they know to do is get the money in order to get the drugs that they have got to be on.

03:17:10.000 And there we go with the revolving door.

03:17:13.000 And that's by design!

03:17:15.000 Just amazing.

03:17:15.000 We're going to come back in a final segment with you and tell folks how they can get involved with you, support you, learn how to defend themselves, learn how to fight this corrupt system.

03:17:24.000 On the other side of this quick break, again, I'm Alex Jones, InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.tv, JonesReport.com are the websites.

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03:21:01.000 While they used to grow food in Kansas, then they want to grow down the moon to eat raw.

03:21:13.000 I can see the day coming when even your home garden is going to be against the law.

03:21:19.000 You know, a side issue, and people that know about this building once understand it.

03:21:24.000 It was a radio talk show host who contacted me and interviewed me several times.

03:21:30.000 Asked to do a show on Genesis and said, fine.

03:21:32.000 He posted a link to something saying, basically said I may have murdered William Cooper.

03:21:36.000 And when I called him up, he started yelling and cussing at me, and I said, you know, this is very destructive, this is not nice.

03:21:42.000 What you're doing, you know, uh, just sit there and talk about my family and lies and all this, sort of yelling and cussing at me, and then I heard him go to speakerphone and I said, oh, you got somebody listening, you want me to yell at you now?

03:21:51.000 And I didn't say any of the things he said here.

03:21:53.000 Thank God I had witnesses here in studio while I was on the phone.

03:21:56.000 We've had somebody try this before, so I'm going to take legal action against this.

03:22:00.000 And, um, that's just the end of it.

03:22:02.000 And I'm going to take legal action against the other people that air any of it.

03:22:06.000 And I promise that.

03:22:08.000 Uh, so, um, I got so many other things to do, so much other work to do, but at this point, I just have to defend myself and my name.

03:22:18.000 Um, just amazing, and it is a crime to file false police reports if this person's done what they said they've done.

03:22:24.000 I mean, it's just, it's jealousy has gone to a rampant new level with the Obama deception, the fact that we're breaking out internationally, everything we're doing.

03:22:32.000 But we will not be silenced, we will not be stopped with all the things that have gone on.

03:22:38.000 Just absolutely amazing.

03:22:41.000 This individual says, I threatened their family.

03:22:43.000 Completely made up.

03:22:46.000 I said to the person, why are you talking about my family and saying lies?

03:22:50.000 I said, you've sat there and called me up at night and told me private stuff about your family.

03:22:53.000 I've never talked about that.

03:22:54.000 See, that's how the schizophrenic, I guess that's what it is, mind does these type of things and then twists them.

03:22:59.000 So, people finally want the gloves to come off.

03:23:03.000 The groups that no doubt will put this on to attack me more, you will be served.

03:23:08.000 Full money, full lawsuits, just because you plan to, with malice of forethought, put out false information to do me harm has been said the definition of slander and libel uh... so just everybody's on notice for that and uh... this other stuff, but I have to continue, I don't want this to become a big distraction or diversion for everything we're doing you know with my guests, you know what I'm talking about, only folks that know about this will be aware of it, I'm not going to discuss it any further

03:23:36.000 I may not be on the air a few days this week because I've got to go prepare suits that's to be done properly with law firms.

03:23:41.000 It takes a lot of time, a lot of energy to do it right.

03:23:44.000 And so that's it.

03:23:45.000 A lot of mental illness out there and I've got to counter it and defend my family.

03:23:49.000 Listen, I want to thank you Karen Russo for coming on the show.

03:23:53.000 I want to thank you for spending time with us.

03:23:55.000 If folks want to learn more about the institute you run and people trying to get their rights back, how do they do that?

03:24:01.000 They can contact us through the website which you've graciously given them and they can call us at 816-941-0087.

03:24:07.000 I really would encourage them, families especially, if you've got a loved one in prison to contact us because there are certain documents that you need to have on file in order to fight for that inmate that 95% of them do not have on file.

03:24:25.000 And if you've got generated forms from the prison system that you think are there for that reason, I can almost bet you they're not accurate and they're not adequate.

03:24:39.000 So I would encourage them to do that.

03:24:40.000 The other way they can learn about it, there's a book coming out that I've written at the beginning of the summer called Fighting for Life.

03:24:50.000 That it basically teaches families how to do, uh, basically 20 years of what I'm doing.

03:24:54.000 Good, good.

03:24:55.000 Listen, we'll have you back on in the near future.

03:24:57.000 Thank you so much, Karen Risa.

03:24:58.000 Okay, thanks a lot.

03:24:59.000 I appreciate it.

03:24:59.000 God bless you.

03:25:00.000 Same to you.

03:25:01.000 You bet.

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Alex Jones Show - March 30, 2009

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