Alex Jones Show - 20090525_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones We are live ladies and gentlemen Thank you so much for joining us today.

00:00:31.000 This Thursday, the 19th of March 2009, we're going to be live here for the next four hours.

00:00:38.000 We have Dr. Chuck Baldwin, Constitutional Party presidential candidate 2008, who was basically listed as a terrorist leader by the state police.

00:00:48.000 Propaganda document put out in Missouri, written by the feds, and that's what the document does.

00:00:53.000 Don't let them spin it.

00:00:55.000 Also, we've got Commander David K.

00:00:59.000 Robin of the American Legion joining us, outraged by the fact that they're going to make all veterans pay for their own health care.

00:01:08.000 Now, that's CNN, ladies and gentlemen, and they put a spin on it and say it's good.

00:01:13.000 So basically, you'll have to get your own insurance when your arms and legs get blown off, or you breathe nerve gas, or you get shot.

00:01:21.000 You know, more than 15,000 troops have died in Iraq.

00:01:24.000 They just changed the rules seven years ago, as they were building up for the war.

00:01:30.000 We've now passed the six-year mark for being in Iraq, but seven years ago they changed the accounting rule, kind of like they've changed all the other federal statistics that were always somewhat fraudulent, but now even more fraudulent, to where if you're not looking for employment anymore and you just dropped out of society, which tens of millions have done, you just are counted as employed.

00:01:55.000 Isn't that interesting how they cook the numbers there?

00:01:57.000 Well, it's the same thing here.

00:01:59.000 You can pull this up, you can just Google it, the government admits it.

00:02:02.000 15,000 plus troops five years in, I haven't looked at it in a year, have died of their injuries since they left Iraq.

00:02:13.000 And I mean, they can die on a jet, medical aircraft, flying them to New York City or to D.C.

00:02:20.000 or to Virginia or to Rammstein in Germany, and it doesn't count.

00:02:26.000 So, uh, when I say 5,000 died in the Obama deception, I'm just going with what they're officially, uh, spinning and saying.

00:02:33.000 Not even counting the, uh, 1,000-plus dead contractors, uh, as well, so it's well above that.

00:02:41.000 Continuing, we have Stuart Rhodes from Oath Keepers coming on the show.

00:02:46.000 This is a group of police and military saying they're going to keep their oaths to not violate the Bill of Rights and Constitution under criminal orders from either the commander-in-chief or their direct commanders in the military and police departments, police chiefs and others.

00:03:05.000 So that is coming up.

00:03:09.000 We also have author Jeff Grubb, author of Corporatism, The Secret Government of the New World Order.

00:03:17.000 Very interesting professor joining us in the last hour of the show today.

00:03:21.000 Rescheduled him from last week.

00:03:24.000 So that's basically what is coming up.

00:03:28.000 Okay, massive news, very important news.

00:03:32.000 Let me break it down right now.

00:03:35.000 House passes mandatory national service bill.

00:03:40.000 You heard me.

00:03:42.000 It's now going to the Senate.

00:03:43.000 They are going to do this.

00:03:45.000 They are moving on every front.

00:03:47.000 By the way, Obama is going down to Mexico.

00:03:49.000 I was listening to him live.

00:03:51.000 I gave a speech on the radio this morning to a crowd saying that, well, we're going to fix the illegal alien problem because we're just going to legalize them. 1.00

00:03:59.000 The American people want to legalize them.

00:04:01.000 They just want them to be official and legal and have papers.

00:04:04.000 He'll be in the system.

00:04:06.000 And so, get ready for that as well, but just off the charts report, PrisonPlanet.com, Paul Watson, House passes mandatory National Service Bill.

00:04:18.000 The House passed a bill yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory National Service programs as fears about President Obama's promised Civilian National Security Force intensify.

00:04:33.000 Watson's being too timid here, like he always is.

00:04:36.000 If you read the bill that passed, it says forced service, so I'm going to read it.

00:04:40.000 Yes, they have passed it.

00:04:41.000 It's going to the Senate right now.

00:04:45.000 The Obama administration is now having to admit they engineered the loopholes for the banks with the bailout money.

00:04:51.000 Of course they did.

00:04:52.000 I mean, Geithner wrote the bailout bill for Paulson.

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00:08:06.000 Hello?

00:08:12.000 Okay, we're jam-packed with guests today, so I'm going to go right into the news.

00:08:20.000 Out of the gates.

00:08:22.000 This is up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:08:24.000 This article is of maximum importance.

00:08:27.000 We need this to go to the four winds immediately.

00:08:29.000 House passes mandatory national service bill.

00:08:33.000 Legislation intensifies fears about Obama's civilian national security force.

00:08:37.000 Intensifies fears?

00:08:40.000 I mean, when they're marching down the street in massive brigades, will that intensify fears?

00:08:46.000 You see, we get accused constantly of exaggerating.

00:08:48.000 No, I have to call Kurt Nemo, Paul, Steve, Aaron, constantly and say, hey, you didn't put the fact that they added Ron Paul and bumper stickers in this Mayak report.

00:08:58.000 I didn't see that in there, I can't believe that.

00:09:00.000 Read it, it's in there!

00:09:02.000 It's worse than they say.

00:09:03.000 It's worse than this headline says.

00:09:06.000 Read the bill!

00:09:07.000 We're about to read the bill on air right now that's passed the House.

00:09:13.000 And I understand why Representative Jim Guest of Missouri, when he first heard about our story last week, didn't believe it at first.

00:09:19.000 He said that on air because it's so horrifying.

00:09:22.000 It's so unbelievable that the government is out of control and as criminal as it is.

00:09:27.000 But it's happening.

00:09:37.000 It's really going on.

00:09:39.000 This is why, if you study criminology, people let con artists in their houses, it's why women get in cars with killers, because, oh, he was a nice man, he was wearing a suit, you know, Ted Bundy.

00:09:51.000 Of the few women that escaped, and finally that's why he got caught, was, oh, he was so clean cut, I couldn't believe a serial killer would be clean cut.

00:09:58.000 Most of them are.

00:10:00.000 And so because all these politicians are wearing fancy suits up there and have fancy teleprompters and, you know, big curtain backdrops behind them, people get conned.

00:10:09.000 It's worse than we can even describe here, ladies and gentlemen, the full spectrum of deception and disinformation by the establishment media.

00:10:20.000 The twisting.

00:10:23.000 The boldness of the politicians' lies.

00:10:27.000 Alright, I'm pontificating.

00:10:28.000 Let me get into the article.

00:10:29.000 House passes mandatory national service bill.

00:10:31.000 Legislation intensifies fears about Obama.

00:10:34.000 Civilian National Security Force.

00:10:36.000 PaulWatsonPrisonPlanet.com The House passed a bill yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory national service programs as fears about President Barack Obama's promised civilian national security force intensify.

00:10:51.000 I mean, why would we be wondering if he's going to do it when his chief of staff wrote a book about it, Obama's given a bunch of speeches, Rahm Emanuel has, it was on change.gov, we exposed it and they pulled it, saying mandatory service for Middle school, high school, college, adults, seniors.

00:11:08.000 I mean, we got a screenshot of it.

00:11:10.000 It's right there.

00:11:11.000 It's in Obama Deception.

00:11:14.000 People are like, maybe Alex is right.

00:11:16.000 Maybe they are planning to put troops on the streets.

00:11:18.000 They've announced they're doing it.

00:11:20.000 It's already happening.

00:11:23.000 They're announcing world taxes and world government.

00:11:25.000 Yes, it's all true.

00:11:26.000 It's all real.

00:11:27.000 Can we stop the denial?

00:11:30.000 And do something about it instead of debating all day whether it's happening or not.

00:11:33.000 I'm going to read this bill.

00:11:40.000 home.

00:11:41.000 The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act.

00:11:47.000 Remember, compulsory volunteerism, another doublespeak term.

00:11:51.000 Just like the Patriot Act's unpatriotic.

00:11:54.000 You know, just everything is a doublespeak term.

00:11:56.000 The New Freedom Initiative, where the government wants to put half the kids on drugs in their own documents.

00:12:01.000 It's new freedom!

00:12:02.000 Don't you love these terms?

00:12:03.000 The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act.

00:12:07.000 Known as the GIVE Act.

00:12:10.000 GIVE! 0.99

00:12:11.000 What do we have, Benny Hinn is the President?

00:12:14.000 The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act, was passed yesterday by 321 to 105 margin, and now goes to the Senate.

00:12:26.000 And the Senate's usually worse along these socialism-fascism lines, so it looks like it's gonna pass.

00:12:30.000 Get ready, folks!

00:12:34.000 Under section 6104, under section 6104 of the bill entitled Duties.

00:12:44.000 A duty is what you got to do.

00:12:47.000 That's why it's called a duty.

00:12:49.000 In subsection B6, The legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed.

00:13:08.000 That's a quote.

00:13:10.000 Mandatory.

00:13:12.000 You know, in Australia, and everywhere else, this is how they introduce it.

00:13:14.000 They go, oh, it's just a test of the National ID Card through the REAL ID Act, and then they force it down your throats.

00:13:20.000 Oh, don't worry, if you don't like it, don't worry, it's just a test.

00:13:22.000 Or, don't worry, we're going to ban most websites in Australia that you can visit and have Chinese-style net censorship.

00:13:28.000 That's the government's quote.

00:13:29.000 But it's just a test.

00:13:30.000 And then two months later, they're saying, ah, it's going to be permanent.

00:13:33.000 So don't worry, we're just looking at mandatory service.

00:13:36.000 We're just seeing how we can do this in a workable fashion.

00:13:39.000 Well, they've already said how they're going to do it.

00:13:40.000 They've been setting it up for 20 years.

00:13:43.000 It's called Secure Corps, a division of AmeriCorps.

00:13:47.000 And they've got pilot programs from Illinois, to Pennsylvania, to Texas, to California, where they turn the entire school into a government-run military academy for boys and girls.

00:13:59.000 And the kids are told, you can't own guns, you can't shoot guns, your parents are bad, Second Amendment's bad.

00:14:04.000 But then, oh, would you like to go to the shooting range with M-16s?

00:14:08.000 Oh, you can't have that.

00:14:09.000 But if you're with the government, you can.

00:14:11.000 You're in 16s.

00:14:13.000 And then right out of high school, they're going to go into the brigades.

00:14:15.000 You can go read the Philadelphia Daily News article from six years ago, where they laid it all out.

00:14:26.000 And it said in the article, That they had the high school students training with M6 teams and training with the SWAT teams and Army on how to go door-to-door and do cordon operations, locking down cities and how to do fugitive apprehension.

00:14:41.000 That is Philadelphia Daily News.

00:14:45.000 You cannot make this stuff up.

00:14:49.000 They beta tested, they're getting ready to roll it out, and now you're slack-jawed Drug-head, know-it-all, video game players have been playing all these violent games, who've all been primed for this.

00:15:02.000 They're gonna love their new authority through the government, and they're gonna be running around in their uniforms, and they'll come to the, you know, dinner table at night and bosh you around, and, hey mom, hey dad, I'm with the Hitler youth now. 0.95

00:15:12.000 I mean, this has been done everywhere, and this is the... Mao did it, Hitler did it, Stalin did it, Lenin did it, Pol Pot did it, Fidel Castro did it.

00:15:21.000 This is the most stinking, out-of-control, Tyranny you can get. 0.98

00:15:26.000 I just want to tell all the young snot-nosed punks. 0.99

00:15:30.000 Don't try running a checkpoint with me. 0.97

00:15:32.000 Don't try coming up and tasering me.

00:15:34.000 I just can't handle it anymore. 1.00

00:15:35.000 I can't handle the scumbag bankers robbing this country, and the classical tyranny they're setting up, and the dumbass public that doesn't know that tyranny's looking down the barrel of a gun at them. 0.99

00:15:47.000 I'm sorry, I'm just getting angry, folks. 0.99

00:15:49.000 I just... It's just really starting to get to me.

00:15:54.000 Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled Duties, it says a fair and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all abled young people could be developed.

00:16:05.000 And they admit this is a military draft for a million person domestic military, and it says in the... I need to... I can't remember the exact code.

00:16:15.000 It was 1,014 point.

00:16:21.000 Hey, guys, Google this for me right now.

00:16:23.000 Google this because I can't talk in Google.

00:16:25.000 And then print it for me.

00:16:27.000 It's in the Obama Deception.

00:16:28.000 It's not even a bill.

00:16:31.000 Pentagon just said they're doing it.

00:16:34.000 Headline.

00:16:37.000 Pentagon announces or Pentagon launches new civilian force.

00:16:42.000 PrisonPlanet.com Pentagon launches new civilian force.

00:16:46.000 PrisonPlanet.com Print that for me, please, so I can give people the actual Code on that, okay.

00:16:56.000 Section 120 of the bill also discusses the youth engagement zone program and states that service learning to the public schools will just be complete drone brainwashing indoctrination camps now, re-education camps.

00:17:10.000 Section 120 of the bill also discusses the Youth Engagement Zone Program and states that service learning will be a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools' service by local educational agency.

00:17:23.000 But see, that's federal funding.

00:17:25.000 They call it the new Obama doctrine, the new Obama curriculum, and it's happening.

00:17:30.000 The legislation states it's slated to cost $6 billion.

00:17:37.000 Over five years would create 175,000 new service opportunities.

00:17:42.000 They're going to pay them too.

00:17:43.000 So then we'll say, well, it's not really service.

00:17:44.000 You have to do it.

00:17:45.000 We're going to pay you.

00:17:46.000 That's like a draft under AmeriCorps.

00:17:48.000 But here's the key.

00:17:49.000 In that army code announcement, they say million person army and that service will not be voluntary, will be mandatory.

00:17:58.000 And that, yes, they will decide whether you stay here domestically as part of the occupation force or whether you go overseas.

00:18:04.000 It says it in the bill.

00:18:07.000 And it says it in the code.

00:18:09.000 Did you find it?

00:18:12.000 Call Paul Watson.

00:18:13.000 He'll know the exact headline.

00:18:14.000 I have to have that right now or people won't believe it.

00:18:16.000 Thank you.

00:18:19.000 I mean, it's Pentagon Announces New Civilian Force.

00:18:23.000 That's the headline.

00:18:24.000 Pentagon Announces New Civilian Force.

00:18:26.000 It'll come up.

00:18:26.000 PrisonPlanet.com.

00:18:29.000 The legislation is slated to cost six billion over five years.

00:18:32.000 It goes on.

00:18:35.000 Under AmeriCorps, bringing the number of participants in the National Volunteer Program to 250,000.

00:18:40.000 We'll also create an additional Corps to expand the reach of volunteerism into new sectors including a Clean Energy Corps, Education Corps, Healthy Future Corps, and Veterans Service Corps.

00:18:51.000 So they're going to have the military, when you get out of the military, you'll be domestic military.

00:18:55.000 And expands the National Civilian Community Corps, that's it, he's got a link to it, to focus on additional areas like disaster relief and energy conservation.

00:19:06.000 And then he's got links to the mainstream news reporting all this.

00:19:08.000 The Senate is also considering a similar piece of legislation known as the Serve America Act, which also includes language about youth engagement zones.

00:19:17.000 Here's about Obama's plans to create involuntary servitude were first stoked in July 2008 when Obama told a rally in Colorado Springs, we cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we have set.

00:19:30.000 We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.

00:19:37.000 And it just goes on from there.

00:19:38.000 Now, that's big news.

00:19:40.000 I'm gonna cover it more with Chuck Baldwin.

00:19:42.000 But, but, first, when we get back, uh, they're gotten caught with their pants down on this issue with the loopholes on the bailout money, uh, going into people's bank accounts.

00:19:57.000 The robbery going on.

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00:21:13.000 The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.

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00:21:22.000 He's fudged since day one in this election.

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00:24:12.000 They will announce carbon taxes after hyping up the earth dying, everything's being destroyed, carbon dioxide's deadly poison, the polar bears are drowning, all these lies.

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00:24:35.000 And it just expands on from there.

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00:24:44.000 It's a conspiracy theory.

00:24:45.000 We have no plans to do that at this time.

00:24:48.000 Obama came out two weeks ago and said, we're going to make veterans of all wars, including the current one, get their own insurance and then pay for their own health care.

00:24:57.000 CNN reported it, AP, everybody.

00:24:59.000 And they put the spin on it.

00:25:00.000 Oh, it's good.

00:25:01.000 We need to do that.

00:25:02.000 Oh, he's so good.

00:25:04.000 Because we told you, this isn't a socialist.

00:25:05.000 And socialism is bad enough because it makes you dependent.

00:25:07.000 They're already done with the socialism phase domesticating us.

00:25:11.000 The only socialism is taking all our money and giving it to the bankers, and that's fascism.

00:25:15.000 You know, they take 9.7 trillion, and then a couple hundred billion comes back to the states with strings attached.

00:25:21.000 That's their socialism.

00:25:23.000 Their socialism is saying, no healthcare for the troops.

00:25:27.000 Their socialism is saying that cities all over are cutting health care for police and firemen and city workers.

00:25:33.000 That's your socialism.

00:25:35.000 You see, tyranny is about robbing us.

00:25:38.000 That means every stinking one of us, except for a few thousand elite.

00:25:43.000 Comprende. 0.90

00:25:45.000 We comprehend that.

00:25:47.000 Here it is.

00:25:48.000 It says, Obama changes course on veterans health care.

00:25:52.000 President Obama has a reverse course on a plan to have the private health insurance of veterans pay for health care.

00:25:58.000 White House spokesman Robert Gibbs issued a statement Wednesday saying the proposal had been floated.

00:26:02.000 This is WhiteHouse.gov in his briefing room page.

00:26:05.000 Quote, maximize the resources available for veterans as well as keep costs down for Veterans Administration.

00:26:10.000 Gibbs said that after consulting with several leaders, the president now believes the move could affect the ability of veterans and their families to have access to health care.

00:26:18.000 Really?

00:26:18.000 Who would have thunk it?

00:26:21.000 They will go ahead and ram this through.

00:26:23.000 They're gonna go ahead and they've almost made it impossible for veterans to get anything other than pills.

00:26:29.000 Any real surgeries, you name it.

00:26:31.000 And they've got people that don't even have real, you know, proper medical licenses from India and places.

00:26:36.000 I'm not saying they don't have some real medical schools over there.

00:26:38.000 Very smart folks.

00:26:40.000 Just as smart or smarter than Westerners. 0.86

00:26:42.000 Top scientists.

00:26:43.000 Point is, they have a lot of quack schools over there like Mexico does. 1.00

00:26:46.000 And there's a bunch of quack doctors that's come out in the news. 0.91

00:26:49.000 People don't even have real medical degrees.

00:26:50.000 You know, cutting off the wrong leg or leaving tools inside people, you know, Russian doctors, you name it.

00:26:57.000 So, that's going on, and so they'll just make it very hard for you to get healthcare and then say you just need to have your own insurance.

00:27:03.000 Okay?

00:27:04.000 That's how this works.

00:27:06.000 So, as huge opposition mounts when they introduce it, they then back off and then they'll be right back in a month with it again.

00:27:13.000 And then they'll deny they ever said it again, and then they'll come right back with it again.

00:27:17.000 And then about the third or fourth time, they'll go ahead and do it.

00:27:20.000 They'll just get you sick of talking about it and get you acclimated.

00:27:24.000 Every time the outrage grows to a crescendo that's about to spill out and actually hurt the establishment, they back off and say, we never said that, or, well, we're not going to do that now.

00:27:33.000 And they come right back with it.

00:27:35.000 See, they don't want you to organize.

00:27:38.000 And so as people start organizing against this, they go, OK, we're not doing it now.

00:27:41.000 Organization falls apart, they're right back.

00:27:44.000 Kind of like the Associated Press a month and a half ago, headline, Trans-Texas Corridor, part of Napa Superhighway grid, is dead.

00:27:52.000 TxDOT says, and the Department of Transportation federally say, and then three paragraphs down it said, actually we're doing the entire program of seizing the roads and putting toll roads on them.

00:28:01.000 We're just not going to call it Trans-Texas Corridor anymore.

00:28:06.000 See how that works?

00:28:06.000 I mean, this is why the public is fooled.

00:28:10.000 Because they don't even understand there's a couple dozen tricks the establishment plays.

00:28:15.000 And I was flipping through radio this morning, XM and AM and FM, and I would listen for about a minute to each news station.

00:28:21.000 CBC, BBC, Fox, POTUS.

00:28:25.000 You know, just I was flipping, flipping.

00:28:27.000 It was just all propaganda.

00:28:28.000 Everything I tuned into, propaganda, propaganda, propaganda, propaganda, propaganda.

00:28:32.000 All elaborate spin packages.

00:28:37.000 And it's simple.

00:28:37.000 The Feds and their PR firms are now spending close to $100 billion a year on domestic propaganda.

00:28:42.000 Tens of billions a year on Pentagon propaganda.

00:28:44.000 I mean, they buy everybody.

00:28:47.000 Hollywood, the rock stars, all out there pushing their propaganda.

00:28:50.000 And they just play these little spin games over and over and over again.

00:28:56.000 And so every week the big talking points come out.

00:28:58.000 It's put out by the PR firms.

00:29:00.000 The lazy reporters just regurgitated on the news.

00:29:03.000 NPR.

00:29:04.000 Everything.

00:29:04.000 Just lies, lies, lies, lies.

00:29:07.000 Spin.

00:29:08.000 Deception.

00:29:10.000 Tricks.

00:29:12.000 Alright, when we come back we got Chuck Baldwin on.

00:29:16.000 But I want to get to this first.

00:29:18.000 Senator Dodd admits Adding Bonus Provision to Stimulus Package.

00:29:24.000 We have you, Dodd.

00:29:25.000 We didn't put it in the film, but during the Obama Deception Research, we have all these speeches of Dodd going, how dare these bonuses!

00:29:30.000 We're gonna fight them, and Obama, we're gonna fight them, and we're gonna deal with it, and we're gonna stop it!

00:29:36.000 And in the film, we expose the loopholes.

00:29:38.000 We show the executive order.

00:29:39.000 Oh, it's now mainstream news, not just in the Obama deception that Obama and all them wrote it and engineered the whole thing!

00:29:47.000 As usual, we know all their tricks!

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00:31:24.000 If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.

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00:34:44.000 Chuck Baldwin, pastor, syndicate of columnists, author, great mind.

00:34:48.000 Dr. Chuck Baldwin, Constitutional Party presidential candidate.

00:34:53.000 Got massive votes for a upstart.

00:34:56.000 Uh, party.

00:34:57.000 It's been around for years.

00:34:58.000 That's what the media called it.

00:34:59.000 I want to get his take on a lot of things, including Senator Dodd admits adding bonus provision to stimulus package while he was the guy bad-mouthing it and blaming it on Republicans.

00:35:08.000 And we're not defending Republicans.

00:35:09.000 They were a party to it.

00:35:10.000 The point is, they're all controlled by the same people.

00:35:12.000 And then, meanwhile, Dodd is now blaming Obama administration for bonus amendment.

00:35:16.000 Well, yeah, because the bonus amendment mirrors the executive order.

00:35:21.000 So when you see Obama go, we're going to get these people, his administration is literally run by the people that engineered the current banking system.

00:35:29.000 Bush has continued it, just as guilty, but he wasn't the author of it.

00:35:34.000 It's just so outrageous, the level of their lies, but it's being exposed, it's coming out.

00:35:39.000 And by the way, this is what the Obama deception covers.

00:35:42.000 We go over all of this in the film.

00:35:44.000 Not just his lies, but the real agenda from their own documents.

00:35:49.000 We show video clips of them saying one thing and then doing another.

00:35:52.000 Let's go ahead and go to Chuck Baldwin.

00:35:53.000 Chuck Baldwin, good to have you here with us.

00:35:55.000 Alex, thank you very much for letting me come on your show.

00:35:58.000 You bet.

00:35:58.000 I am fired up today.

00:36:00.000 What about you?

00:36:00.000 I'm seeing liberty, the awakening to tyranny exploding.

00:36:05.000 Well, this Missouri fiasco, I think, is illustrative of what we're dealing with here.

00:36:10.000 Whenever you can categorize people who vote for myself, or Ron Paul, or even Bob Barr as potential domestic terrorists and make that part of an official state police agency report, we are in deep doo-doo.

00:36:25.000 There's no doubt about it.

00:36:28.000 Yeah, and that's the main reason we got you on, but there's a host of other issues I want to go over with you.

00:36:31.000 But let's cover that first.

00:36:32.000 The MIAC report, I've had a state rep on to confirm with the head of the state police on the phone.

00:36:36.000 It's real.

00:36:37.000 We called the state police.

00:36:39.000 We put their names out in the article.

00:36:42.000 People still couldn't believe that this was real.

00:36:45.000 They thought I made this up, Chuck.

00:36:49.000 No, you didn't make it up, but I thank you for reporting it.

00:36:52.000 Now, of course, it's all over the media.

00:36:54.000 Even Rush Limbaugh talked about it the other day.

00:36:57.000 The Missouri State papers have been carrying it quite a bit in the last couple of days, as you can imagine.

00:37:03.000 And this thing is now beginning to get a life of its own.

00:37:07.000 Thank you, Alex, for helping to break this story.

00:37:10.000 Whoever that police officer was in Missouri who first contacted you, he's a real hero.

00:37:15.000 I don't know who he is.

00:37:17.000 He sure did a great service to his country by alerting the public as to what is going on behind the scenes in the police department there in the state of Missouri.

00:37:26.000 This thing is unbelievable.

00:37:28.000 I mean, to categorize voters of Ron Paul, supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, as potential domestic terrorists, not to mention the fact that if anyone opposes certain things, and I listed that in my column, That I put out earlier this week.

00:37:48.000 If someone opposes, for example, the New World Order, if they oppose the United Nations, gun control, the violation of Posse Comitatus... RFID!

00:37:58.000 RFID!

00:37:59.000 If they're part of In the Fed, or the Liberty Committee, or the Constitution Party, and they say, oh, these groups are bad, too.

00:38:06.000 They have soup kitchens and try to work with the local police, talking about your group and others.

00:38:11.000 And they say, but secretly, they've got cell groups and they're really terrorists, too.

00:38:16.000 Yeah, anybody that opposes any of the above, abortion on demand, illegal immigration, etc., is a potential domestic terrorist, a potential threat to the police forces there in the state of Missouri.

00:38:27.000 Can you imagine what the firestorm would be if, instead of Bob Barr, Rod Paul, and myself, Had, let's say, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton been named, with the insinuation that people who support these individuals may be considered domestic terrorists.

00:38:43.000 Can you imagine what the mainstream press would do with something like that?

00:38:47.000 And yet, this is exactly what that report says there in the state of Missouri.

00:38:51.000 We have sent, the three of us, Ron, myself, and Bob, have co-signed a letter to the governor and to the respective parties in Missouri.

00:39:01.000 Demanding that they repudiate this report and apologize to the supporters of those who voted for us.

00:39:10.000 Chuck, let me stop you.

00:39:12.000 This is big news and of course we broke it here.

00:39:14.000 I have the original, actual report here in my hot little hands right now.

00:39:18.000 Specifically, what did Limbaugh say about it?

00:39:21.000 A, and then B, where is a copy of this letter?

00:39:25.000 I would like to publish it right now up at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:39:30.000 Okay, the letter, I have a copy of course in my possession, as does Bob Barr.

00:39:36.000 Will you do me a favor and scan it or email it over and we'll post it and put a link over to your site?

00:39:41.000 Sure, sure we can do that.

00:39:42.000 And as to what Limbaugh said, I really don't know exactly what he said I didn't hear.

00:39:46.000 I very seldom listen to Rush Limbaugh, but I've had several people call and tell me that he did bring it up on his programmers, or maybe a caller did, and they did talk about it for a few minutes.

00:39:55.000 The point is that it's beginning to spread around the country.

00:39:58.000 Yeah, and it was in newspapers, yeah.

00:40:00.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:40:01.000 The newspapers and talk radio, of course, are the ones that are breaking the story right now.

00:40:05.000 You were the first one to break it, as far as I know, and again, I thank you for that.

00:40:08.000 But this is incredible, and the thing about it is, law enforcement agencies often share this kind of information.

00:40:15.000 Correct.

00:40:16.000 with each other. - No sir, all 50 states have this.

00:40:19.000 I actually have it from other states.

00:40:22.000 It's just state police have asked me not to publish the copies they've got 'cause they're scared.

00:40:25.000 And I've gotten many similar reports.

00:40:27.000 I've seen a Texas report on the same style letterhead a few years ago.

00:40:31.000 It just wasn't this egregious listing Ron Paul, yourself and others. - Correct.

00:40:36.000 As far as I know, this is the first report such as this that has actually named names.

00:40:42.000 You know, they did this back in the 90s when Jenna Reno was there in the Clinton White House.

00:40:47.000 And they did some of the same kind of insinuations and broad brushing and so forth.

00:40:53.000 But they didn't actually name names.

00:40:55.000 But here we are now in 2009 and they've actually named Chuck Ball and myself, Bob Barr, And Ron Paul.

00:41:01.000 And saying the supporters of those of us who ran last year as an independent party ticket are somehow considered dangerous and a potential domestic terrorist.

00:41:12.000 Yeah, well I need to get Ron Paul back on.

00:41:14.000 I don't like to bug him because he's so busy, but last Wednesday when we broke this, Thursday I got calls from listeners saying, we called Ron Paul's office, of course it wasn't Ron Paul, he hadn't heard about it yet, and they're saying it can't be real, and so I had to explain to them, send them to the site, and I said, I'm not going to call Ron at home, I've got his home number, but I said, give this to him, We don't make stuff up.

00:41:35.000 You know that, right?

00:41:36.000 And they said, no, no.

00:41:37.000 We all know you and like you, Alex.

00:41:38.000 I said, good.

00:41:39.000 It's real.

00:41:40.000 The state police officers' names are there.

00:41:42.000 Call the number for yourself.

00:41:44.000 Confirm it's real.

00:41:45.000 Because I got slapped around for three or four days, and folks are still saying I made this up, Chuck.

00:41:50.000 It doesn't matter if the state police and state reps say they talked to the head of the state police.

00:41:54.000 They're still, the establishment's still trying to deny this.

00:41:58.000 Well, that's incredible, because all anyone has to do is call the toll-free number and talk to the state officials there in Missouri, and they won't deny it one bit.

00:42:09.000 In fact, they will defend, they'll just say that it's been misconstrued and people are saying... Yeah, we've played recordings of them on air.

00:42:18.000 People say that's not real.

00:42:19.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:42:20.000 They don't deny it, but they don't deny it, is my point.

00:42:23.000 I mean, they will readily admit that it's legitimate.

00:42:26.000 And for the most part, they stand behind it.

00:42:29.000 As far as Ron Paul, you're right.

00:42:31.000 At first, you know, I'm sure that the people in his office didn't probably believe it.

00:42:36.000 When I first heard the story, it was somebody, you know, told me, said, hey, have you heard the story coming out of Missouri?

00:42:40.000 And I said, oh, no, they didn't.

00:42:42.000 They didn't do that.

00:42:43.000 I mean, that's the first thing you think about.

00:42:45.000 But then whenever you start to look at it closely and you realize, hey, this, it's real.

00:42:49.000 If it's not make-believe, then you can begin to do something about it.

00:42:52.000 And of course, this letter that we have co-signed, Bob Barr, Ron Paul, and myself, and I'm sure by now is on the way to the governor's office there in Missouri, in which we give him three days to come out and repudiate this document.

00:43:09.000 Do you have the letter in front of you?

00:43:12.000 I do have the letter.

00:43:14.000 I'm going to sit back here.

00:43:16.000 Will you read that on air, please?

00:43:18.000 Well, it's a little over two pages.

00:43:23.000 Go ahead, read it.

00:43:24.000 Yeah, let's read it.

00:43:24.000 It's important.

00:43:26.000 First time here, exclusive.

00:43:27.000 Go ahead.

00:43:30.000 Dear Governor Nixon, the three of us write you as former presidential candidates, as concerned citizens, and in the case of Ron Paul, as a sitting member of the U.S.

00:43:38.000 House of Representatives, and Bob Barr, as a former member, 1995 to 2003.

00:43:43.000 We bring to your attention the most disturbing document being circulated by the Missouri Information and Analysis Center, MIAC, over the seal of your office and your name as governor.

00:43:52.000 We respectfully demand that the following described document be immediately removed from any and all websites associated with or maintained by the State of Missouri or any agency thereof, including the MIAC.

00:44:03.000 That the said document no longer be circulated by the State of Missouri or any agency thereof or associated therewith.

00:44:08.000 That the State of Missouri repudiate its references to the three of us as contained therein.

00:44:12.000 The document to which we refer is identified as follows, and a copy enclosed herewith.

00:44:17.000 And of course, it's the MIC Strategic Report, dated 22009, and it's entitled, The Modern Militia Movement.

00:44:24.000 Four names appear on the mask of this document.

00:44:26.000 Jeremiah W. J. Nixon, Governor, John M. Britt, Director, DPS, James F. Kethy, Colonel, MSHP, and Van Godsey, Director, MIAC.

00:44:39.000 The aforesaid report is imprinted at the bottom of each page thereof with the following designation, unclassified, law enforcement sensitive.

00:44:48.000 It would be difficult, Governor, to recount in any letter of reasonable length the nonsense and inaccurate information contained in this so-called strategic report, which concerns purported analysis of the modern militia movement.

00:45:00.000 The report draws links between white supremacists, anti-immigration persons, people opposed to gun control, those who do not favor the Federal Reserve Banks, and much more.

00:45:09.000 With a report nothing more than a nonsensical diatribe penned by some uninformed person, we would certainly not take our time writing this letter.

00:45:15.000 Although we might respectfully suggest you might want to question why such nonsense is of interest to, and being disseminated by, an agency connected to Save Missouri.

00:45:24.000 Our concern, which we believe warrants your attention over, is found at the top of page four of this document, after the heading, Political Paraphernalia, as follows, quote, Militia members most commonly associated with third-party political groups.

00:45:35.000 It is not uncommon for militia members to display constitutional, and that's a mis-spell, because it's constitution, not constitutional, party, campaign for liberty or libertarian material.

00:45:46.000 These members are usually supporters of former presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr, close quote.

00:45:54.000 If it is the intent of the state of Missouri to link these three, excuse me, to link three legitimate former candidates for the office of the President of the United States, who also happen to be a sitting member of the U.S.

00:46:03.000 House, a former member of the U.S.

00:46:04.000 House, and a Baptist minister, then this document clearly does so.

00:46:08.000 And this is the basis for our demand that the document be removed, its distribution, and any actual implied adoption by the state of Missouri stop.

00:46:16.000 If it is not the intent of the state of Missouri to make such a link or implication by and through the appearance and distribution of this document, Then we similarly demand the document be removed from any and all websites maintained by or associated with the state of Missouri or any agency connected therewith.

00:46:29.000 That's a state issue and immediate and unequivocal repudiation of the document.

00:46:34.000 In view of the fact that there are indeed real criminals present in Missouri, and many legitimate matters of public safety on which you're office, the Department of Public Safety, the Highway Patrol, and even the MIAC, should focus their attention on resources.

00:46:46.000 Respectfully assert that spending any time, resources, or effort on the nonsense contained in or about this MIC Strategic Report constitutes an irresponsible and inappropriate use of official resources.

00:46:56.000 We stand ready to discuss this matter with you at your convenience.

00:46:59.000 However, the action respectfully demanded in this letter is requested within three days of your receipt of this letter.

00:47:04.000 In the meantime, with common regards, we are virtually yours.

00:47:07.000 Ron Paul, member of Congress, Republican candidate for president 2008.

00:47:10.000 Bob Barr, member of Congress, 1995-2003, Libertarian Party nominee for president 2008.

00:47:15.000 Chuck Baldwin, minister, Crossroad Baptist Church, Constitution Party nominee for president 2008.

00:47:22.000 Okay, I would just add to that that they start out with a page listing cop killers. - Shh.

00:47:29.000 And then they demonize the militia, connecting it to that.

00:47:32.000 Then they connect violent militias, which basically don't exist and are constitutional, you know, the non-violent ones, to basically the majority of the American people.

00:47:42.000 Pro-Second Amendment, pro-sovereignty, pro-border, just you name it.

00:47:49.000 They basically say, people with these bumper stickers are dangerous, they may Put a hole in you.

00:47:56.000 You know, that's the totality of it, and it's a guilt by association, broad-brush demonization, and it's slander and libel of the highest order, and that's why they kept it secret.

00:48:11.000 If they do not repudiate this forthwith, I feel confident that there will be legal action in suit.

00:48:18.000 And I can tell you this too, that the Constitution Party and hopefully the Libertarian Party in the state of Missouri are likewise sending off similar letters with just those exact implications in mind.

00:48:31.000 In other words, the letter that we wrote was Tell us how this letter got written.

00:48:39.000 You've got Bob Barr, Ron Paul and yourself on the phone.

00:48:42.000 The Declaration of Independence was supposedly written by a bunch of people, but we know it was mainly written by Thomas Jefferson.

00:48:48.000 Who was the Thomas Jefferson writing this letter?

00:48:50.000 I think it was primarily Bob Barr.

00:48:54.000 Okay, so Bob Barr is the Thomas Jefferson here.

00:48:57.000 You guys, you and Ron Paul, Congressman Paul and yourself, Dr. Baldwin, agreed with this.

00:49:02.000 Did they, in the conversations on the phone, talk about carrying out legal action themselves if this isn't repudiated?

00:49:09.000 Because, you know, I'm glad you guys are doing this.

00:49:11.000 You have to.

00:49:12.000 This endangers the tens of millions of Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and Chuck Baldwin supporters and fans Oh, absolutely.

00:49:19.000 I mean, talk about the essence of freedom.

00:49:21.000 This is the essence of freedom.

00:49:22.000 people over for ron paul bumper stickers in las vegas and places uh...

00:49:25.000 so this is dangerous well absolutely i mean this is you know i talk about the essence of freedom this is the essence of freedom of whenever uh...

00:49:36.000 state police agencies begin pulling people over for political opinions And that's exactly what this is.

00:49:42.000 If you support Bob Barger, Baldwin, Ron Paul, that's a political opinion.

00:49:46.000 Yeah, that's what the report is.

00:49:48.000 For those that don't know, I'm keeping it running because it's key.

00:49:51.000 This is given, they say, MYAC report is for them when they pull people over.

00:49:56.000 This is to profile.

00:49:57.000 This is for harassment.

00:49:59.000 Go ahead.

00:50:00.000 Yeah, and so when we start profiling people because of political thought, political ideology, I mean, this is what they did in Nazi Germany, what they did in Stalin's Russia, Mao's China, the whole nine yards. 0.58

00:50:13.000 You know, your identification with a particular thought or particular idea means that you are a threat to the state.

00:50:22.000 That is the antithesis of everything that this country was founded upon.

00:50:28.000 And if we don't stand up and resist this now, it's only going to grow.

00:50:35.000 Absolutely.

00:50:36.000 Chuck Baldwin is our guest.

00:50:37.000 I have the head of the VFW coming on at the 8 After, but we'll have Chuck with us until then.

00:50:43.000 Obama saying, cut off the healthcare to the troops.

00:50:46.000 You cannot make this stuff up.

00:50:49.000 Chuck Baldwin is our guest.

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00:54:37.000 Dr. Baldwin, I forgot to give you the email.

00:54:41.000 It's robd, as in do, robd at Infowars.com.

00:54:47.000 I would love for you to send us that email right when you get off the air in about 10-15 minutes and we'll do a story on it.

00:54:52.000 Very, very exciting to see you guys standing up and fighting back.

00:54:55.000 But I go back to the question we ran out of time.

00:54:57.000 Talking to Ron Paul, talking to Bob Barr, are they saying that they may do legal action if this is not reversed and retracted?

00:55:05.000 I think I could safely say that the sense of each of us is that this is serious enough that if the state of Missouri does not respond appropriately, that we should consider legal action.

00:55:19.000 I think that is certainly a consideration right now.

00:55:22.000 So that was discussed.

00:55:23.000 Yes.

00:55:24.000 That is very important news right there.

00:55:27.000 Good, because instead of putting up with the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ADL, who go after groups that are obviously bad and are constantly mixing good people in with it, I'm sick of this slander, and they've lost lawsuits before over this, and now the police are putting this out secretly.

00:55:44.000 This is outrageous.

00:55:46.000 It is outrageous and it threatens the liberty of every American.

00:55:50.000 I hope that your listeners understand that even though they may not have voted for myself or Bob or Ron Paul, or perhaps they don't live in Missouri, that they think that this doesn't affect them.

00:56:00.000 But the fact of the matter is, this affects every single American citizen.

00:56:04.000 When police agencies can begin to profile Americans on the basis of what they believe, We are in serious trouble.

00:56:13.000 We don't have freedom if we don't have the freedom to think, the freedom to speak, the freedom to express our ideas and our convictions publicly.

00:56:23.000 When we don't have that freedom, without being considered an enemy of the state or a domestic terrorist, however you want to say it, we don't have the most basic fundamental freedoms in this country.

00:56:35.000 And that's what's at stake for every American.

00:56:39.000 Yeah, this is a chilling effect.

00:56:40.000 I mean, this is a Soviet Union, Nazi Germany.

00:56:42.000 This is classical tyranny to have the police turning into secret police for these reports, demonizing the very people that are defending the Republic.

00:56:51.000 Yeah, and think about it, you know, the people that they mentioned there, you know, Bob Barr, the Libertarians, Chuck Ball in the Constitution Party, Ron Paul, the, you know, if you want to say the constitutional wing of the Republican Party, you know, these are the people that, for the most part, are the most adamant defenders Of the Constitution, of freedom, of the very principles that the law enforcement personnel around the country are sworn to protect.

00:57:16.000 Let's remember that every law enforcement officer in the country takes an oath to the Constitution, as does every military officer, of course, every public official.

00:57:25.000 So, you know, and we are the ones who are promoting the law that each of these law enforcement personnel have sworn to protect.

00:57:34.000 I mean, if there's any group of people that they should appreciate, it should be the people that are trying to support and defend the Constitution that the law enforcement personnel have sworn an oath to.

00:57:46.000 Absolutely, and they might as well list Lou Dobbs in here, because the whole document looks like a Lou Dobbs CNN TV show.

00:57:52.000 I mean, the North American Union, the SPP, RFID, tracker chips, the Second Amendment.

00:57:58.000 I mean, they just demonize everything that this country stands for.

00:58:01.000 Absolutely, yeah, that's a good point.

00:58:04.000 This document is treason!

00:58:07.000 They should have mentioned Lou Dobbs, because how often does he talk about many of the things that you just listed there?

00:58:14.000 Chuck Baldwin, I'm gonna talk a little bit more about this for five more minutes if you can do it, and then, uh... Alex, I gotta go.

00:58:18.000 I got another interview at 12 o'clock straight up.

00:58:20.000 I'm sorry.

00:58:21.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:58:22.000 Okay, well, you, right now, during the break, uh, send me that, uh, letter so I can post it?

00:58:27.000 I'll do that as soon as I get off my next interview, Alex.

00:58:30.000 Okay, let me say bye to you during this break.

00:58:32.000 Then Chuck Baldwin will have to have you back up next week for a full hour of, uh... Well, I wanna fire out your website.

00:58:37.000 I'll do that after the break.

00:58:38.000 Hold on.

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01:00:27.000 We're gonna get back up in the near future.

01:00:28.000 He had to go because of another radio interview.

01:00:32.000 But look at how we broke this major news story because state police officers sent it to us.

01:00:38.000 Actually, two of them did.

01:00:39.000 One in California, one in Missouri.

01:00:41.000 It's the one in Missouri that doesn't want to come on air.

01:00:43.000 The state police officer Uh, in California saying he will come on.

01:00:48.000 He's gonna be on.

01:00:49.000 We may even get him on later in the hour.

01:00:51.000 As he said a few days ago, he would come on any time.

01:00:53.000 And I guess we just hadn't set him up yet for some reason that escapes me.

01:00:57.000 Because I want him on immediately.

01:00:59.000 Immediately.

01:01:00.000 I had a state rep on yesterday who talked to the head of the state police in Missouri.

01:01:03.000 Uh, Jim Guess, representative of Missouri.

01:01:06.000 And he, they admitted it was real.

01:01:09.000 It's really going on.

01:01:10.000 Demonizing all these people and I want Paul Watson curtain Emma whoever to go ahead and Chuck says in 30 minutes.

01:01:17.000 He's gonna send me that email.

01:01:18.000 He's got to Finish the interview first and send it We're going to get that up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, but I would just go ahead and have Paul Watson do a couple paragraph blurb about, you heard them say, that he talked to Ron Paul, they are considering litigation, and Bob Barr.

01:01:34.000 Bob Barr, Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, considering litigation if this isn't retracted, and they've sent a letter, the letter has been sent.

01:01:42.000 Go ahead and get that article up, and then we'll post the letter in it.

01:01:46.000 I don't want to wait here.

01:01:48.000 So launch the operation immediately.

01:01:53.000 Folks, you don't realize how much power the American people have.

01:01:56.000 You don't realize the platform we have with Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:02:00.000 A lot of people don't understand the effect we're having.

01:02:05.000 That's what's blowing me away.

01:02:06.000 I mean, this is history.

01:02:07.000 We are standing in the crossroads of history.

01:02:09.000 We can take on the New World Order. 0.54

01:02:12.000 We can get a reprieve like Nineveh with Jonah.

01:02:15.000 You know, but the phony, bought-and-paid four churches under the faith-based initiative of tens of billions a year, under federal control, are telling people, stand down to corruption, stand down to tyranny.

01:02:25.000 Obama's basically God.

01:02:26.000 They told their people Bush was basically of the Lord.

01:02:29.000 Well, we posted what they teach in the sermons, Protestant, Catholic, doesn't matter, all federally written.

01:02:34.000 The clergy response teams, you know, now mandatory service, passing the House, going to the Senate.

01:02:40.000 It's all happening, and the biggest threat we face is the pulpit prostitutes, as Pastor Butch Paul calls them, that are up there neutralizing the American people and the people of the world, telling them to stand down, that it's not your job to stand up to evil, that it's not your job to fight corruption, that it's not your job to be involved.

01:02:59.000 What's up, Rob?

01:03:00.000 You got news for me?

01:03:02.000 What's up?

01:03:05.000 I talked to his wife.

01:03:05.000 He's in the bathroom.

01:03:06.000 You talked to his wife?

01:03:06.000 Let's get the state police officer on at 40 after, if we can do it.

01:03:09.000 After I talked to the VFW guy.

01:03:10.000 And we have any way to disguise his voice at all?

01:03:12.000 He's worried, like, well, we shouldn't say he's from California.

01:03:15.000 Okay, okay.

01:03:16.000 Well, we're on air right now, you know that?

01:03:18.000 So, I mean, we're having an open discussion right now.

01:03:20.000 Um... It's alright.

01:03:23.000 Hey, it doesn't matter.

01:03:24.000 The main thing is he sent us that letter he wanted us to publish.

01:03:27.000 That's what they'll catch him, find out who he is with.

01:03:30.000 Okay?

01:03:31.000 So, let's just get the Missouri officer on.

01:03:34.000 Okay?

01:03:34.000 But let's do it now.

01:03:36.000 And just tell him, um...

01:03:39.000 You know, it's his First Amendment right to talk about what he thinks of this.

01:03:41.000 And we'll just leave it at that.

01:03:43.000 Okay?

01:03:44.000 He said he'd do it.

01:03:44.000 Just get him on.

01:03:45.000 Okay, thanks.

01:03:47.000 This is the battle command station here, ladies and gentlemen.

01:03:50.000 This is the headquarters of the resistance.

01:03:51.000 I'm gonna let you in on a little secret.

01:03:53.000 And, um... The establishment knows that's why they're engaging in all this covert demonization of us.

01:04:00.000 But, um... We just called his wife's there.

01:04:03.000 He just got off a shift and he was in the shower.

01:04:08.000 You got both of them ready?

01:04:09.000 Then get the Missouri State Trooper on.

01:04:11.000 Okay?

01:04:13.000 Twist his arm.

01:04:15.000 He was ready to do it a couple days ago, and I didn't know that he was ready, and now I don't want any cold feet here, ladies and gentlemen.

01:04:22.000 Okay, um... Oh, there's so much.

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01:04:29.000 After we cover all that, I'm going to get into Senator Dodd admits adding bonus provision to stimulus package.

01:04:33.000 Now in Bloomberg, he's blaming the Obama administration for it.

01:04:36.000 Well, they're both guilty.

01:04:37.000 He put it in the bill, the Obama deception crowd, the Obama administration put it in the executive order.

01:04:46.000 It's all in my film, The Obama Deception.

01:04:48.000 We finger who did it.

01:04:50.000 And then they're claiming they're fighting these CEOs and all these bonuses.

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01:08:14.000 We have confirmed that Limbaugh did a bunch of his show on the MIAC Missouri Report demonizing conservatives and gun owners.

01:08:21.000 The state police reports the feds put out demonizing conservatives.

01:08:25.000 Bank did a whole hour last night on Fox on it.

01:08:28.000 This story we broke last week has just gone huge.

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01:08:34.000 Come to us from the head of the American Legion, the largest veterans association here in the United States.

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01:08:44.000 We have Commander David K. Rabin on with us.

01:08:47.000 He met with the President on Monday.

01:08:49.000 CNN and others reported that they were saying that they wanted to basically make the troops have their own insurance and pay for their own medical care instead of going to the VA.

01:08:58.000 So joining us is Commander David K. Rabin, head of the American Legion.

01:09:02.000 Sir, thanks for taking time out.

01:09:04.000 I appreciate the opportunity this afternoon sir.

01:09:06.000 sir thank you you bet give us some background you're meeting with the president and now that looks like they're backing off well this issue really came to light about three weeks ago and while some testimony was being given in front of the house veterans affairs committee we didn't expect that

01:09:21.000 it was that serious an issue at that point but we did think it was serious enough that a dozen veteran service organizations got together and jointly wrote a letter to the president opposing opposing this idea thinking that maybe it wouldn't go very much farther But then we were all invited to a meeting at the White House last Monday afternoon.

01:09:43.000 And that's when we discovered that this truly was a serious proposal.

01:09:47.000 The administration, and at that meeting was the President himself, his Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, VA Secretary Eric Shinseki, and a representative from the Office of Management and Budget.

01:10:01.000 At that meeting they told us that they had identified 540 million dollars that they thought could be recouped back into the VA by billing private insurance carriers for treatment of service-connected disabilities.

01:10:17.000 At that point, and I want everybody to understand that the President never threatened to cut off treatment.

01:10:27.000 This was simply a method of how that treatment would be paid for, whether by the government or by private insurance.

01:10:33.000 That would certainly start a big precedent towards that, though.

01:10:39.000 It would start us down a road that we didn't want to go.

01:10:43.000 The organizations all felt, every one of us, that the government has a fundamental responsibility, not just to provide that treatment, but there shouldn't be any financial burden borne by the veteran or by the veteran's family for that treatment.

01:11:01.000 Oh yeah, they're going to raise insurance rates on them if the insurance companies learn that insuring a veteran separately, that they're going to have to pay.

01:11:08.000 I mean, come on.

01:11:10.000 Insurance premiums would go up.

01:11:12.000 There are annual and lifetime caps, maximums on the benefits that are paid.

01:11:17.000 One of the things we're really concerned about is once that maximum benefit cap is reached, then the entire family loses their health insurance coverage for the rest of the year.

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01:11:42.000 And then there's the added load of this on the entire insurance system, the type of catastrophic injuries associated with military service.

01:11:51.000 As you just said, this would bankrupt the entire family's cap very quickly.

01:11:56.000 Very quickly, very quickly.

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01:12:10.000 And then on top of those two, there's also the effect on the employability of the veteran himself and what the And the effect on the company if this disabled veteran is running his own small business.

01:12:23.000 There's just way too many dangers here to take a chance on implementing this proposal.

01:12:29.000 I didn't think of that.

01:12:30.000 We're talking to the commander of the American Legion, David K. Rabin.

01:12:34.000 I didn't think of that.

01:12:35.000 Businesses guaranteed, if they knew, I'm going to take a veteran on with a job who's going to have huge insurance costs on our whole plan, with small businesses especially, that would prejudice people against hiring veterans.

01:12:48.000 It certainly would.

01:12:49.000 It certainly would.

01:12:49.000 We think that if a veteran walked into the business, even if he was the most qualified, that might be the deciding factor as to who gets the job.

01:12:58.000 Just the potential effect on the employer's insurance costs.

01:13:07.000 No, go right ahead.

01:13:09.000 You're in the meeting with the President.

01:13:10.000 He was trying to... Who was doing the selling?

01:13:12.000 The President or Chief of Staff Emanuel?

01:13:15.000 Or was it Shinseki?

01:13:16.000 Who was pushing this in the meeting?

01:13:19.000 All of the discussion at the meeting, the primary discussion came from the President.

01:13:25.000 Chief of Staff Emanuel carried part of the discussion.

01:13:27.000 The VA Secretary, General Shinseki, said very little during the meeting.

01:13:32.000 He was present, but there wasn't much discussion coming from the Secretary.

01:13:39.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:13:42.000 The thing that did surprise us and disappointed us, frustrated those of us from the veterans organizations, the president did not wish the discussion, and he stopped the discussion a couple of times, from addressing that fundamental responsibility of the government to take care of not only to provide the treatment but to pay for it.

01:14:02.000 The discussion focused strictly on the money, on the financial aspects, And where the money was going to come from.

01:14:09.000 So I'm getting from what you're saying, he didn't want to be on record, uh, seconding the fact that the military has always been promised continual health care.

01:14:18.000 And when you were saying, you support that, don't you, Mr. President, he was noncommittal?

01:14:23.000 That's, yes.

01:14:25.000 A couple of the folks in the meeting tried to address that issue and that discussion came to a halt fairly quickly at the President's request.

01:14:34.000 Strictly the focus on the money aspect.

01:14:37.000 That is outrageous.

01:14:38.000 So he was dehumanizing the issue away from the troops.

01:14:42.000 I mean, that is outrageous.

01:14:44.000 So that clearly gives us a bird's eye view into the mind of where they're trying to take policy.

01:14:51.000 Any other little interesting pieces of intelligence from the meeting, sir?

01:14:54.000 No, not from that one in particular.

01:14:57.000 We did, there was There was the suggestion made that if the organizations, if the organizations did not agree with this, if we were strongly opposed, that if the organizations would make some other suggestions as to where this money could be, could be either saved or additional sources of income, that the administration was willing to listen to those.

01:15:21.000 That left us a little uneasy, left me a little uneasy, because I don't see it as the responsibility of the veterans organizations to partner with the government in making those kinds of plans.

01:15:33.000 You're lobbying an organization, a fraternal organization, guardians of the veterans, and what you're saying, I don't want to put words in your mouth, is that there was an attempted Co-opting going on here?

01:15:43.000 A little bit of stroking to get you to, quote, help them?

01:15:47.000 Uh, I mean, will Obama cut, you know, four or five smart bombs out of the budget?

01:15:51.000 That's your 500 million.

01:15:53.000 I think that's, I think, I think there's some, I think that's an accurate assessment of what was going on.

01:15:59.000 Uh, the, what they were asking for was strictly ideas based on veterans health care and the VA.

01:16:04.000 And there's a couple of them out there.

01:16:06.000 Uh, the American Legion has advocated for a long time that, We don't see why a Medicare-eligible veteran that's going to the VA Medical Centers for non-service-connected treatment, why Medicare should not be able to be billed and to bring some money back into the VA that way.

01:16:23.000 We think there'd be new money come into the VA that's currently being spent out on private doctors, if that possibility was allowed.

01:16:32.000 Currently, the VA cannot bill Medicare.

01:16:35.000 That's law.

01:16:36.000 It's going to require a change in the law.

01:16:39.000 Yeah, and that's government money to begin with, so I don't see the problem with that.

01:16:43.000 We don't either.

01:16:44.000 We've advocated that position for, oh, I would say probably somewhere between five and ten years now.

01:16:50.000 That's not a brand new idea.

01:16:52.000 Yeah, that's more money.

01:16:54.000 That's more options for better care for the troops. 0.60

01:16:57.000 Yes, yes.

01:16:59.000 Any other key points that were going on in this meeting?

01:17:01.000 And then we'll go into Chapter 2 here in the time we have left with the head of the VA who's nice enough to join us here.

01:17:07.000 Anything else in the meeting that people should be made aware of?

01:17:09.000 And was there anything good that you agreed with that the President or Chief of Staff said?

01:17:15.000 Only that the President was very clear that there would be treatment for these people, that there was never any doubt.

01:17:22.000 That treatment for service-connected disabilities would happen in the VA medical care system, and it would be very good treatment.

01:17:30.000 The President, Vice President Biden, and Mrs. Obama have all been very clear about how much they care about the military and the military's families.

01:17:40.000 So he wanted us to understand that there was never any question about whether or not treatment would happen in the VA.

01:17:47.000 It would.

01:17:49.000 But it would take it away from their families with the cap.

01:17:52.000 That possibility exists, yes.

01:17:56.000 There was some discussion of a test program, a pilot program in maybe two states, to see what the effect would be on premiums and lifetime caps and employability.

01:18:08.000 But frankly, those of us in the organization, myself as commander of the American Legion, I'm not willing to take that risk.

01:18:16.000 Well, we know what they do.

01:18:17.000 Those veterans that have service-connected disabilities, They and their families have sacrificed enough.

01:18:24.000 We don't need to run a test program and run the risk that they would be sacrificing even more to find out things that we're pretty sure would be going to happen.

01:18:34.000 Well, we know that's a government trick all over the world to just say it's a test to kind of kill opposition, and then they roll it out saying, oh, our tests worked great, now we're going to do it.

01:18:43.000 Mm-hmm.

01:18:44.000 Yes.

01:18:44.000 Yeah.

01:18:46.000 And you've seen things studied and studied and studied.

01:18:49.000 And again, you know, the study never seems to get over.

01:18:52.000 What was his body language or what did he get?

01:18:54.000 He was saying, hey, I don't want to talk about this being, you know, a right or something and not wanting to commit to that.

01:19:01.000 But then saying I won't take their health care away.

01:19:03.000 Sounds like double speak.

01:19:05.000 What was his I mean, how was he trying to co-opt or, you know, get you guys what it sounds like to sell out the veterans in a way to will help me cut their benefits somehow or help me save this money somehow?

01:19:16.000 Yeah, that was I'm not good at reading body language.

01:19:20.000 I don't dare give an interpretation there because there's a chance that I might be mistaken.

01:19:29.000 But he was very clear this was about the money.

01:19:33.000 And can you as organizations come up with ways to help supply this money?

01:19:39.000 Alright sir, we've got a break for a quick break.

01:19:40.000 Come back with five more minutes with you to talk about the good news from talking to the Congress and now with a new statement today by Gibbs.

01:19:51.000 White House Press Secretary, they're claiming they're backing off of this for now, so we'll finish up with the head of the American Legion, Commander David Ketch.

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01:24:18.000 Commander David K. Raymond of the American Legion is on with us.

01:24:24.000 They're going to...

01:24:28.000 I just can't believe they're trying to nickel-and-dime veterans treatment when we have a trillion-plus dollar defense budget.

01:24:35.000 And they're not worried about trillions to the private banks, but it's just amazing.

01:24:40.000 Your thoughts on that, and then the good news that they are backing off this plan, sir.

01:24:44.000 Yes, sir.

01:24:45.000 There was an invitation back into the White House yesterday.

01:24:50.000 The President could not be there.

01:24:51.000 He had prior commitments, but Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel led that meeting to bring the veterans' organizations back in.

01:24:58.000 We'd all expressed our opposition.

01:25:00.000 The American Legion put out a very strong press release, and we'd been talking about it for the two days, expressing our opposition and involving the citizens and our membership around the country.

01:25:11.000 At that meeting, which only lasted about 15 minutes, the Chief of Staff received the opinions of the veterans' organizations, the opposition, and made the promise that he would consult with the President and be back with an answer yet yesterday afternoon.

01:25:29.000 When that answer came back to us, it was that the President was withdrawing that proposal.

01:25:34.000 We also heard that coming from Speaker of the House Pelosi and House Appropriations Chairman Chet Edwards.

01:25:44.000 They both made the statement that this proposal had been withdrawn and would not be involved in the budget for this coming fiscal year, which was very good news.

01:25:54.000 But the issue is that they're proposing it.

01:25:56.000 It shows the mindset, as you said.

01:25:58.000 What was the... I mean, I know the outrage was here that we saw on the internet and the phone calls we got to the radio show.

01:26:04.000 I mean, did this issue, on a scale of 1 to 10, how hot did veterans get and veteran supporters over this?

01:26:13.000 Oh, I think from the people we were hearing from, I would put it up around the 8 to 9.

01:26:19.000 This, you know, this really...

01:26:23.000 When you tell people that have worn the uniform in the United States about this idea, you get about two-thirds of the way through the description of what's being discussed here, and the head starts to shake, no, right, just that quickly.

01:26:37.000 Because they understand this fundamental responsibility.

01:26:39.000 They understand the reason that those folks were injured.

01:26:45.000 Uh, why they're coming home with that disability and they understand that fundamental responsibility is not to be, not to be trifled with.

01:26:54.000 Plus they were promised, they were promised, they signed contracts saying this.

01:26:58.000 Yes.

01:26:59.000 Yep.

01:26:59.000 Exactly.

01:27:00.000 Exactly.

01:27:02.000 So that's, that's...

01:27:05.000 It hits very high on the radar screen when you start to talk about it with the members of our organization, with the veterans around the country, and frankly with a large percentage of the population around this country, even those that haven't been closely involved with the military.

01:27:21.000 Does this put a chink, do you think, in the Obama administration's image with veterans who are already in a lot of areas not too pleased with him?

01:27:32.000 It certainly didn't help.

01:27:34.000 We in the American Legion have been very pleased the last couple of years about budgets.

01:27:39.000 We're very happy with the budget request that the President has put in.

01:27:45.000 All we've seen is the bottom line number there.

01:27:46.000 We don't know the details, so we're looking for the details.

01:27:50.000 We're anxious to see them, but we've been very pleased with the bottom line number.

01:27:54.000 But yes, this could go a long way to hurt what tends to be a favorable first impression in my mind.

01:28:03.000 That would...

01:28:04.000 That was one of the things that was said by one of the other representatives in that meeting to the president, that this was not really... This wasn't something he needed this early in his administration because, at this point, things were going reasonably well.

01:28:21.000 All right, well, Commander David K. Rabin of the American Legion, probably the biggest veterans organization, not just in the U.S., but on the planet, and the website is Legion.org, Legion.org.

01:28:36.000 And we appreciate you not being a lapdog.

01:28:39.000 So many other groups that represent people have been kind of seduced in to all these hundreds of meetings they've been having, trying to co-opt everybody.

01:28:47.000 And so we're really glad to hear that you and you're saying the other veterans groups that were with you, that none of them were rolling over to this first seduction, well, I would call it a corruption, into the White House machinery.

01:29:02.000 So we commend you, Commander David K. Rabin, for that.

01:29:06.000 Thank you very much, and it was very good to see so many of our colleagues in the organizations feeling the same way.

01:29:14.000 That wasn't an absolute necessity.

01:29:16.000 We in the American Legion will form our opinion and we'll act on it based on what we think is right.

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01:29:27.000 Thank you, sir.

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01:33:36.000 Is the state police officer coming on in the next 10 minutes?

01:33:40.000 Did you call him back?

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01:33:56.000 I'm going to go ahead here in just a few minutes and go live at PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:34:02.000 And so I can play the video that has resurfaced.

01:34:07.000 Again, I used to have about two people working for me at the time in 2001 and I would just do the live TV shows and then we've got warehouses, well not warehouses, three portable buildings filled with videotapes rotting of all these TV shows and all these reports I did locally.

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01:34:57.000 And it's up on Infowars.com.

01:35:01.000 Payoff of anti-gun testimony caught on tape.

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01:35:23.000 Back in 2000-2001, I had two employees.

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01:35:41.000 But Mike Hanson, who did camera work for me, ran a local TV show at the time.

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01:35:46.000 He's done that.

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01:36:04.000 And the reason this story is important, we're going to play the video here, is that Jews of Preservation of Firearms Ownerships, local director, We were there testifying against shutting down the gun shows, ending private sales, shutting down 4-8 shooting clubs, YMCA shooting clubs for young people and children.

01:36:28.000 That was the bills.

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01:36:50.000 This was in the Dallas Morning News, attacking me and others.

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01:36:55.000 You know, they're, what looks like bribery, being paid off.

01:36:59.000 And the House Ethics Committee said that he should have been a registered lobbyist, that it was improper.

01:37:03.000 But then the investigation stopped there, and Ken Ahosa, the committee chairman, did get reprimanded.

01:37:08.000 But they get up and they say, yeah, basically there's dangerous gang members everywhere, and We've, you know, you need to restrict guns, you need to restrict gun shows.

01:37:18.000 And then they go outside in this gun control group, sits there and pays them off at least $300 a piece, the three guys that testified.

01:37:27.000 And then the statesman called me the next day after we put the video out on local TV, I was live that night, and said, why don't you like black people?

01:37:35.000 And I said, what are you talking about?

01:37:37.000 Well, if those were white men being paid and testifying against the Second Amendment, would you have done your story?

01:37:42.000 And I said, I wouldn't care if they were green.

01:37:44.000 I mean, this is a non-issue.

01:37:47.000 So the Statesman headline was, Payments Made to Backers of Gun Bills.

01:37:51.000 And it was the cover of the Metro and State local section of the Austin American Statesman.

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01:37:58.000 And that was in the article.

01:37:59.000 I said, are you kidding, sir?

01:38:01.000 Are you joking with me?

01:38:03.000 And I said, you know, don't say that in your article.

01:38:06.000 That's not what this is about.

01:38:07.000 But no, they did.

01:38:07.000 It was all this Alex Jones racist because he showed black guys being paid.

01:38:13.000 So it's an important article in that respect.

01:38:15.000 And this, literally, there's hundreds of reports.

01:38:17.000 Just this is important.

01:38:18.000 And I'm trying to make enough money to hire a person full time just to go through all my old videos.

01:38:23.000 Because this is stuff that needs to be seen.

01:38:25.000 It needs to flood YouTube and everywhere else.

01:38:27.000 And we'll use PrisonPlanet.tv to do that.

01:38:30.000 But I want to thank Mike for digging through his stuff.

01:38:32.000 I'd ask him to do that more.

01:38:34.000 He's got his Mike Hanson Archive page up on YouTube.

01:38:38.000 And this video's been out for a few weeks.

01:38:39.000 It was just emailed to me this morning and I saw it.

01:38:41.000 So we're going to go ahead and play that here.

01:38:44.000 Some of the testimony audio isn't the best.

01:38:45.000 There's only a few minutes of that.

01:38:47.000 But we'll boost the audio up so folks can hear it where they're testifying, basically demonizing the Second Amendment.

01:38:56.000 And go, you know, play the part of, really, it makes black folks look bad. 0.67

01:38:59.000 The racism was putting them up there and going, yeah, we're gang members, yeah.

01:39:01.000 You know, we've been gang members, yeah.

01:39:03.000 The Second Amendment, you know, we need to get rid of these gun shows. 1.00

01:39:05.000 It's dangerous.

01:39:07.000 It was really sick what they did.

01:39:09.000 That was what was playing the race card. 0.99

01:39:11.000 You know, like, ooh, here's the scary black guys, you know, and guns. 1.00

01:39:15.000 It was disgusting, and they were very thuggish. 0.97

01:39:16.000 Once we talked to them outside, you'll see that video at PrisonPlanet.tv right now, and also hear it over the radio.

01:39:24.000 This is one of the guys involved in the Million Mom March here in Texas.

01:39:28.000 Just a disgusting episode, but I've always wanted to play this when we had the bandwidth to put it out for everybody at PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:39:35.000 We're going to have the state police officer on in about five minutes from now.

01:39:35.000 So here it is.

01:39:40.000 So here is the video and the audio.

01:39:43.000 So you guys will pay for your testimony?

01:39:52.000 Nope.

01:39:52.000 Well, we just saw the gentleman give you money.

01:39:57.000 Traveling expenses, baby.

01:39:59.000 So you guys were the Million Mile March?

01:40:02.000 No.

01:40:03.000 Who are you with this camera?

01:40:06.000 No, he's a guy who has some TV show here in Austin.

01:40:10.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:40:11.000 No, actually, it's campaign contributions.

01:40:15.000 Campaign contributions.

01:40:16.000 Yeah, man, nobody's getting paid for nothing.

01:40:18.000 What I said in there, that's what I feel.

01:40:21.000 Well, I mean, who gave you the money?

01:40:23.000 It doesn't matter, money I've been having, I got money all over me.

01:40:25.000 I gave him traveling expenses.

01:40:26.000 I gave him you got traveling expenses already.

01:40:29.000 And I saw you testify, sir.

01:40:31.000 Yeah.

01:40:32.000 You were here with Nina Butts, funded by George Soros, the foreign currency speculator.

01:40:38.000 So this is how business is done.

01:40:41.000 And who are you?

01:40:42.000 I'm Alex Jones.

01:40:43.000 Alright, Alex.

01:40:44.000 I know.

01:40:45.000 I'm a buyer, purchaser, and seller to minors.

01:40:49.000 Oh, really?

01:40:49.000 I didn't know I was in that business.

01:40:51.000 I thought I was a radio talk show host.

01:40:53.000 Yeah.

01:40:53.000 But really, oh, that's an effective deal.

01:40:56.000 So you guys are taking over the country now, right?

01:40:58.000 Yeah, you are, dude.

01:40:59.000 Just as soon as people are disarmed, right?

01:41:01.000 Just like Hitler. 0.96

01:41:02.000 Right.

01:41:03.000 So how much did he pay you?

01:41:04.000 It looked like thousands to me.

01:41:06.000 Yeah, it was.

01:41:06.000 It was $20,000.

01:41:08.000 Well, I saw wads of 20s and 100s.

01:41:11.000 I had to get my camera.

01:41:12.000 I was across the hall there. 0.96

01:41:13.000 You better go buy a gun with that, man.

01:41:14.000 The police told us about it.

01:41:15.000 You better go buy a lot of guns and we're gonna come back and sell them to the NRA.

01:41:18.000 Hey, we're making it so hot that we're going all red.

01:41:20.000 Remember, Hitler was for gun control, guys. 0.94

01:41:22.000 Hitler was for gun control. 0.98

01:41:23.000 Anybody would catch him on one block and shoot him. 0.79

01:41:26.000 For real.

01:41:28.000 So how did the Million Mom March get in touch with you?

01:41:30.000 We're not even a Million Mom.

01:41:32.000 Oh really?

01:41:32.000 You said the name of a group you were with.

01:41:35.000 Young Texans Against Gun Violence, baby.

01:41:38.000 Recognized.

01:41:39.000 And you get paid to do it, huh?

01:41:40.000 Nope.

01:41:40.000 We get a stipend.

01:41:42.000 We get a stipend for volunteering.

01:41:44.000 From who?

01:41:45.000 Don't worry about it.

01:41:46.000 From that old man.

01:41:47.000 That man, that old man is our best friend.

01:41:49.000 Campaign contribution.

01:41:50.000 People are like, what happened?

01:41:52.000 Your son doesn't even look like you.

01:41:54.000 It's not my son.

01:41:57.000 You just call little kids names.

01:41:58.000 That's... You don't want to lose your 4-H shooting club, do you?

01:42:05.000 No, we don't.

01:42:06.000 Well, there's a little bandage where they won't be able to train you how to shoot.

01:42:11.000 And that's their goal.

01:42:11.000 Yep.

01:42:12.000 And so you guys are the 4-H shooting club.

01:42:16.000 It's unbelievable.

01:42:18.000 You've been waiting all day and they wouldn't even let anybody talk.

01:42:20.000 So they had all the Nina Butz's up there first.

01:42:22.000 Unbelievable.

01:42:23.000 I saw you paying those people off.

01:42:25.000 Your guy.

01:42:26.000 Paying those guys from Houston, hundreds of them.

01:42:28.000 Excuse me.

01:42:28.000 Go away.

01:42:29.000 I don't have a hundred dollars.

01:42:31.000 I caught him on tape.

01:42:32.000 I caught him on tape.

01:42:33.000 He ripped her coffee.

01:42:34.000 Really?

01:42:34.000 Yeah.

01:42:35.000 Who are you talking about?

01:42:39.000 What did you see?

01:42:40.000 Because across the hall I saw wads of money.

01:42:42.000 I ran to get the camera.

01:42:44.000 I missed it and I came back and I thought he hid the money.

01:42:47.000 She told me that the woman in the blue... We went over there and he was counting them out.

01:42:54.000 I saw hundreds and twenties.

01:42:57.000 Yeah.

01:42:59.000 We think he gave each guy like $400, right?

01:43:01.000 Well, no.

01:43:02.000 He just said, oh, my spot was $400, and I saw him count out.

01:43:05.000 A lot of you guys are living from the outside in.

01:43:09.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:43:10.000 You guys are in the situation, and you guys are living this day-to-day.

01:43:15.000 I have friends who sell guns.

01:43:17.000 We'll buy guns from people who go to the gun shows and get guns at large quantities.

01:43:23.000 You know, I mean, I know all these people.

01:43:26.000 I live there, where all this is going on.

01:43:29.000 And, I mean, you guys might think that there's already a, you already have a, that I have everything under control, but it's not.

01:43:36.000 I mean, regardless of if we pass this law or not, um, I mean, things might change, but this, this right here, this bill, all three of these bills, this is just the beginning.

01:43:49.000 Because there's bigger, there's bigger threats out there and there's bigger laws that we need to focus on that are being enforced in America.

01:43:56.000 But these three, these three, these three House bills right here, this is just the beginning and I'm all for it.

01:44:06.000 And like I said, you guys are looking, most of you guys are looking out from the outside.

01:44:11.000 Because I'm there.

01:44:12.000 I'm there every day.

01:44:13.000 We've gone into researching.

01:44:15.000 I don't even want to know where these companies are located at or none of that.

01:44:19.000 But, well then what makes you think that they're selling because I need these gun cuts?

01:44:22.000 That's all it is.

01:44:23.000 Who else is going to get them?

01:44:24.000 They don't have a factory in the hood where they're making guns.

01:44:28.000 You don't think some of those guns might be stolen?

01:44:31.000 They're not, man.

01:44:32.000 How can... Where are you going to get some money stolen guns from?

01:44:38.000 From $200,000 a year.

01:44:39.000 $10,000 a year.

01:44:40.000 See, nobody says, alright, nobody... So, I'm sorry, just wanted to clarify.

01:44:46.000 I think what I'm hearing you saying that at least one source of these guns on the street is the gun show.

01:44:51.000 Yes.

01:44:52.000 Thank you.

01:44:54.000 First question I'd like to ask is, do we have an epidemic of gun violence because the proponents of the legislation, the ladies, the very well-intentioned and sincere testimonies of the Marine Body March members and others, would lead to believe we have an epidemic of gun violence.

01:45:10.000 That is not the case.

01:45:11.000 Texas and the United States are safer than they have ever been.

01:45:14.000 I won't go into detail, but if you look through the clipping file here that has information from the National Center for Health Statistics, the Center for Disease Control, U.S. gun deaths at the lowest since mid-60s will say that we do not have an epidemic of gun violence.

01:45:30.000 And we may be in a situation where we're having solutions seeking a problem.

01:45:34.000 Payments made to backers of gun bills.

01:45:38.000 Questions arise over cash given to three witnesses who support gun show background checks.

01:45:44.000 Proponents of gun owners' rights asked lawmakers Friday to investigate cash payments made to three Houston men who appeared before a House committee this week to support bills that would require instant background checks at gun shows.

01:45:56.000 Dave Smith, president of Houston-based Texans for Gun Safety, A known front that is funded by Hangar Control Incorporated said he gave the three members of Young Texans Against Gun Violence, Nina Butz's group is Texans Against Gun Violence, about $300 each to cover their expenses and lost wages for the trip.

01:46:14.000 All three men, however, said they are currently unemployed.

01:46:18.000 So, they can't get their lives straight.

01:46:20.000 That's lie number four right there.

01:46:24.000 It was reimbursement for their jobs, but they're unemployed.

01:46:28.000 One of the witnesses said it is ridiculous that someone would raise concerns about their testimony.

01:46:32.000 It's against my morals, Kelly said.

01:46:34.000 An admitted gang member, by the way, in the Houston Chronicle, there's another story about this in there.

01:46:42.000 Another witness agreed.

01:46:43.000 The money that was given to us was not to change our testimony, said Bruce Brown, 18, who did not speak to the committee but submitted a witness form that showed he supported the bills.

01:46:52.000 Smith, who gave the men the cash just outside the committee hearing room, said Young Texans Against Gun Violence is an arm of his group.

01:47:00.000 The subsidiary group receives donations from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, And the Alliance for Justice.

01:47:07.000 Those groups encourage young people to get experience in the political process, Smith said.

01:47:11.000 Yeah, right.

01:47:13.000 Reimbursing witnesses for travel expenses is not unusual, said Susie Woodford of Common Cause Texas, a group that monitors government ethics.

01:47:20.000 But she said other witnesses using cash and paying for witnesses, time raises ethical questions.

01:47:26.000 It totally undermines the witnesses' credibility, Woodford said.

01:47:30.000 I got here I said, how will this look?

01:47:35.000 It says, complaints about the payments began circulating after Austin-based talk show host Alex Jones, who was at the House Criminal Jurisprudence Committee meeting Tuesday, aired videotaped interviews with Smith and the young men.

01:47:49.000 They told Jones the money was reimbursement, stipends, and campaign contributions.

01:47:54.000 So, three different stories.

01:47:56.000 It's like the famous scene in a movie.

01:47:57.000 Where are you guys going?

01:47:59.000 What are you doing?

01:48:01.000 Going to see my mother, going to get something to eat, going to the moon.

01:48:05.000 It's just making it up.

01:48:06.000 Head of Gun Owners Alliance has asked his thousands of members to seek a house investigation of the payments and to have the hearing disregarded.

01:48:15.000 Smith said complaints are being raised because the young men are minorities.

01:48:19.000 Jones, a strong supporter of gun owners' rights, said Smith was trying to cover up his dirty activities by making accusations of racism.

01:48:25.000 He's sitting here, caught on tape, throwing out different stories and giving out money, said Jones, who mentioned the payments during his testimony against the proposal to require background checks at gun shows.

01:48:35.000 How dare he try to divert attention by saying, I'm a racist?

01:48:38.000 Committee members Rick Green, R. Dripping Springs, and Juan Hena-Hozud, Maybe these kids were paid for their travel, but I don't see anything improper about it.

01:48:46.000 It is part of the process.

01:48:47.000 Henehosa, the chairman of the committee, said that although he didn't know details about the payments, he is not concerned if the witnesses are compensated for testifying.

01:48:54.000 Henehosa said lobbyists are compensated for their work to influence policy on behalf of other interests.

01:48:59.000 Maybe these kids were paid for their travel, but I don't see anything improper about it, Henehosa said.

01:49:04.000 It is part of the process.

01:49:05.000 It is part of open government.

01:49:06.000 State law requires people who are paid more than $1,000 in three months or who spend more than $500 a quarter trying to influence legislation or agency action to register as lobbyists.

01:49:17.000 So you broke the state election laws, bud.

01:49:19.000 You're not a lobbyist.

01:49:20.000 We checked.

01:49:21.000 Smith said not reimbursing witnesses for lost wages would mean average Texans would be left out of legislative debates.

01:49:27.000 And he said cash made sense.

01:49:30.000 Alright, we're back live at PrisonPlanet.tv simulcasting on the radio here.

01:49:35.000 And this is my first time talking to him.

01:49:38.000 My producers talked to him many times.

01:49:39.000 We've set him up for the show.

01:49:40.000 I'm not even going to say which state police agency he's from.

01:49:42.000 We've gotten this from several states, more than several different variants, in the last few months.

01:49:47.000 We're going to call him David.

01:49:49.000 That's not his name.

01:49:50.000 That sent us the MIAC strategic report that has gotten national and international attention.

01:49:58.000 In fact, the MIAC report was here in my stack, and then Jason was in here last night doing a show.

01:50:02.000 I'll have to dig it out.

01:50:04.000 Here is the MIAC report.

01:50:06.000 No, that's not it.

01:50:07.000 Well, the point is it's up on Infowars.com and everywhere else.

01:50:13.000 No, that's a copy of the MIAC report.

01:50:15.000 Oh, there it is.

01:50:15.000 Good.

01:50:16.000 Folks, it's so crazy in here setting up guests.

01:50:18.000 I was just talking to Ron Paul's office and then after that I was talking to Chuck Baldwin's office just now and setting up the state police officer.

01:50:32.000 Right now.

01:50:32.000 What I'm going to do is I'm just going to come back from break.

01:50:34.000 We're going to push Oath Keepers back to about 15 after next hour.

01:50:38.000 So I have time to talk on air to the state police officer and restart what I was just covering here with the MIAC report because I got on air and realized I wanted the MIAC report and found it here in the disheveled stack.

01:50:49.000 So we're going to talk to David, state police officer.

01:50:52.000 It's not his name, folks.

01:50:54.000 When we come back, directly from the gentleman that sent us this, one of the gentlemen that sent us this, stay with us.

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01:53:59.000 Last Wednesday, we broke a report separately sent to us by two separate state police officers in two different states.

01:54:16.000 My strategic report, the Modern Militia, this is federally written to the fusion centers, distributed all over the country.

01:54:22.000 This is the Missouri version with the governor's seal on it.

01:54:24.000 We've got state reps on that have talked to the head of the state police there, the commander.

01:54:29.000 It's true, they admit it, they back it, they support it.

01:54:32.000 We've interviewed and called and played clips with the State police captain in charge at MIAC.

01:54:41.000 This is real.

01:54:42.000 And now, Lembeck's covered it.

01:54:44.000 Rush Limbaugh's covered it.

01:54:45.000 We've confirmed those clips.

01:54:46.000 I've watched them during breaks.

01:54:47.000 It is a huge story, and it should be.

01:54:49.000 But these, and other variants like them, go out everywhere.

01:54:52.000 We're joined by David, the current state police officer.

01:54:54.000 We're just going to leave it at that.

01:54:55.000 Not even tell you what state he's in.

01:54:58.000 and have him tell the story of what it's like to have these in the department, other reports they've had, what other officers are saying, and what it's like to see this have blown up so big.

01:55:07.000 We appreciate his courage because they do have retribution against officers, and they talk about that in here if it gets out.

01:55:13.000 Sir, we appreciate you upholding your oath to protect and defend the Bill of Rights and Constitution that so many have fought and died for.

01:55:19.000 Thank you so much, officer.

01:55:20.000 You're quite welcome, Alex.

01:55:24.000 Okay, tell us when you first got this and what it was like reading it and what other officers are saying.

01:55:29.000 Well, they emailed it to all the area officers and officers and it's like a training thing, you know, and when I pulled it up on the screen, at first I was in disbelief after I read it and I had to read it a couple times to understand what are they saying.

01:55:50.000 I thought it was a spoof.

01:55:53.000 When I read it, when I ran it past a few other officers, you know, and they had the same twist that I had on it, that they were actually saying that some of us were militia members, that we belong to a militia group just because, as myself, I have a Ron Paul sticker on my car.

01:56:13.000 Some other officers, they believe that gun control is not correct and that we shouldn't be marking up bullets.

01:56:20.000 the ammunition act that they're trying to pass through.

01:56:23.000 And they're saying, wait a minute, this is like a big net taking in everybody.

01:56:28.000 You know, it just doesn't, it didn't appear right.

01:56:32.000 And it seemed like this thing was just anti-American all the way.

01:56:36.000 It really, it really made me mad.

01:56:39.000 So the majority of other officers that you talked to in your state police office, they were upset by it just like you?

01:56:47.000 Yes, they were.

01:56:49.000 Thank you.

01:56:50.000 And I'm telling you, I'm talking about officers that are Kool-Aid drinking officers.

01:56:55.000 I mean, officers that back Bush all the way.

01:56:59.000 Even they were very upset by this document.

01:57:02.000 They said, nah, this can't be true.

01:57:04.000 You know, and a few of them looked at the author of the article and they said, well, of course, that this is probably what comes out of this agency.

01:57:17.000 Yeah, we decided to go with your cell phone because it doesn't have a good connection and kind of distorts your voice, but it's doing its job too well right now.

01:57:24.000 So just, I guess maybe speak a little bit louder for us, officer.

01:57:29.000 I don't want to give out any details about where you are or how senior you are, but we just appreciate, again, your courage coming on.

01:57:34.000 How long ago did you first get emailed?

01:57:36.000 This came out in the 20th of February.

01:57:38.000 Was it around that time?

01:57:41.000 I got it about a week after the 20th.

01:57:44.000 That's when I opened it.

01:57:46.000 And it took me that long to digest what was actually on this document and really interpret what they were trying to tell us.

01:57:57.000 Well, it's a guilt by association document.

01:57:59.000 I mean, do you agree they mix white supremacist and cop killers in with basically every libertarian or conservative or anti-corruption group under the sun and three popular presidential candidates and a sitting congressman?

01:58:12.000 Yes, I do agree.

01:58:14.000 Exactly.

01:58:17.000 Amazing guilt by association.

01:58:20.000 And then they show American flags, and the don't tread on me, and that's used by most of the military.

01:58:24.000 It's bad if you got that on your car.

01:58:26.000 Look out for folks with these bumper stickers.

01:58:27.000 We're going to come back in one minute, sir, a 70 second break, and get into, is this profiling?

01:58:33.000 What is this meant to do when they give this to the state police?

01:58:37.000 And is this why we see state police across the country harassing Ron Paul people?

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02:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:24.000 We're live now already into hour number three in about 15 minutes.

02:00:27.000 We've got oath keepers, a group from police, military and others are saying we're going to uphold the Constitutional Bill of Rights.

02:00:33.000 Very well written, very well done site because it's a constitutional lawyer that started it, but a lot of police and military have joined and pledged their oath to protect and defend the Constitutional Bill of Rights.

02:00:41.000 We've got a gentleman on the line right now, a state police officer.

02:00:44.000 We'll just call him David, that's not his name.

02:00:47.000 His name has been changed to protect the innocent, those defending the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

02:00:52.000 We're talking about the MIAC strategic report.

02:00:54.000 Here's the report he sent me.

02:00:55.000 Got it up on screen right here for you as well.

02:00:57.000 This story is now huge.

02:01:00.000 Profiling.

02:01:01.000 I mean, they admit this is sent out to state police.

02:01:03.000 It was sent to your state police.

02:01:07.000 This is going all over the country.

02:01:09.000 That's confirmed.

02:01:10.000 We're not going to get into that, though, because that can get into where you're at.

02:01:16.000 And, I mean, what is this meant to give patrol officers this?

02:01:19.000 Because they talk about when they pull you over, you know, if you see these bumper stickers, if you see this, if you see that, they start the whole page out with cop killing, I guess to prejudice the police, but it doesn't look like it's working too well.

02:01:29.000 So is this profiling and demonizing anybody that disagrees with the government?

02:01:36.000 Actually, I believe it is.

02:01:39.000 I believe that is the intent.

02:01:41.000 But I don't think it's going to work.

02:01:45.000 Officers in my agency can see through this ruse, and they understand that this document is meant to enslave the American people, and I don't think it's going to work.

02:01:57.000 I think it misses the mark.

02:01:59.000 It's so obvious.

02:02:00.000 It's so obvious to lean one way to be a net that encompasses everybody.

02:02:06.000 Like I said, even though I don't have that right-wing, left-wing, false paradigm, but even the right-wingers in my Well, they're certainly losing now.

02:02:18.000 and they understand what it is.

02:02:20.000 So as a profile document, as a document meant to teach police officers to profile, I think they lost.

02:02:28.000 Well, they're certainly losing now.

02:02:31.000 Congressman Ron Paul, former Congressman Bob Barr, and presidential candidates are saying they're going to sue if they don't retract this.

02:02:41.000 Right.

02:02:43.000 And you know what?

02:02:44.000 I think what they're trying to do, they're trying to train the young officers. - Absolutely.

02:02:50.000 I mean, the really young, impressionable officers.

02:02:53.000 But they don't understand, these young officers that are coming into these departments, a lot of them are really smart and sharp.

02:02:59.000 They're coming in with four-year degrees.

02:03:02.000 I know a couple of attorneys that have just started the department, and they can see through this, Alex.

02:03:09.000 I think these people are running scared now.

02:03:11.000 You and your office and people like you have done such a great job informing the American public that people are seeing through these people.

02:03:21.000 The American citizens are seeing through these people.

02:03:24.000 What type of things were the state police officers in your office saying when they read this?

02:03:31.000 They were in disbelief.

02:03:33.000 They said, hey, I like guns just like any other American likes guns and I'm not letting nobody take my gun.

02:03:44.000 And the ammunition and, you know, like the .223 round and the .308 that Obama wants to get rid of, they say, no, it's not going to happen.

02:03:53.000 They said, when they come to get, well, I mean, the statements are getting really bad.

02:03:57.000 They said, they're going to have a hard time getting my weapon from me.

02:04:01.000 And I say the same thing.

02:04:02.000 You're not getting my weapon unless you pry it out of my cold, dead hand.

02:04:07.000 I'm not giving it up.

02:04:11.000 I mean, would you say 90% of the police, the other state police officers you work with are like this?

02:04:16.000 Or 50%?

02:04:16.000 And you're saying if the statements are getting like... Sounds like you're saying bordering on, we're going to resist this.

02:04:25.000 I would say 80 to 90% of the officers that I spoke to, and that's at like 80 officers, 90 officers, are saying, no, this is not going to work.

02:04:42.000 Stay there.

02:04:42.000 Let's recap that when we come back and get into anything else you want to cover.

02:04:45.000 And your take on this story getting so big.

02:04:47.000 It should get big.

02:04:48.000 This is outrageous.

02:04:49.000 And it's public now because your courage and other state police officers' courage.

02:04:53.000 Because this outraged police so bad, we got two copies of this from two different states, ladies and gentlemen.

02:04:58.000 Stay with us.

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02:08:07.000 Foreign offshore banks are engaged in a corporate takeover of the United States, just like they've done to hundreds of third world countries.

02:08:18.000 That's all that's happened.

02:08:20.000 They're announcing they've got Reuters, world taxes on everything you do to private banks.

02:08:25.000 It's all over the news, there's a new world order.

02:08:27.000 So what happens when the state police and police open up these federally written reports saying none of this exists, you're a violent cop killer if you talk about it.

02:08:37.000 If people have these bumper stickers, look out, and we have out of Las Vegas the footage of them pulling somebody over.

02:08:42.000 What's that Ron Paul sticker on your car?

02:08:44.000 I guess that's the 10% the officer's talking about that I guess buy this.

02:08:48.000 We've got Abby Newman being pulled over at a checkpoint, and she's got a pocket constitution, and they grab it and say, is this legal? 0.69

02:08:53.000 And on the squad car video, they have a discussion about if she's allowed to have it, when all it is is what this country's founded on, what they swear an oath to.

02:09:01.000 Officer, specifically, you know, the New World Order is becoming big news now.

02:09:06.000 I would imagine the officers, you say, are getting upset.

02:09:09.000 I mean, are they going, wait a minute, they're admitting there's a New World Order.

02:09:12.000 Why are they then saying you're a cop killer, basically, if you talk about a New World Order?

02:09:17.000 You know, I don't know exactly why.

02:09:20.000 I think that they're reaching, I think they're in desperation right now.

02:09:25.000 They understand that they're being exposed.

02:09:29.000 It's like the Obama deception.

02:09:30.000 I watched it the other day, and I can't even make enough copies.

02:09:33.000 I have officers coming up to me and saying, David, I understand that you have this film about Obama, you know, and I can't even keep copies.

02:09:45.000 I gotta make copies constantly of the Obama deception.

02:09:49.000 And by the way, I wish you guys sent out my DVD so I could make better copies.

02:09:54.000 We have!

02:09:55.000 They're shipping right now, but imagine we had thousands of orders, we got four people back there, you know, since Monday, just packaging, packaging, so it's on the way.

02:10:01.000 And another thing, Alex, You know, since I've been listening to you, I've been listening to you probably since the end of 2005, and luckily I have, because you have saved me in literally hundreds of thousands of dollars.

02:10:16.000 You got me out of the stock market, posted your guests, I sold my own before the market crashed, and all of these things.

02:10:26.000 The other officers realize, and I tell them, you know, Alex Jones has saved me money, and so that pushes them to you, and now the Obama deception, and now this, this, my document is further pushing people towards your show, towards your, your radio show, because they know that you're giving out the truth.

02:10:47.000 Why do you think people were in denial, even state reps and people that know I tell the truth, when they first saw it they couldn't believe it and they called the state police and they said, yeah, that's our document, we're proud of it.

02:10:59.000 Well, it was so over the top.

02:11:02.000 It's like there's a quickening developing right now.

02:11:06.000 You probably can feel it, I can feel it.

02:11:09.000 They know it's tipping over right now.

02:11:13.000 We're getting the right amount of people waking up where it's going to have a deluge effect on this country.

02:11:20.000 America's going to wake up and vote.

02:11:25.000 Well, what happens with tipping points in history is they can tip into evil or tip into good.

02:11:30.000 And because we've done the groundwork and warned people, and because we were right about what was going to happen and what was going to develop, and people have seen that in hindsight with my 22 films and the work we've done, but countless others out there fighting, that we have a fighting chance in this.

02:11:43.000 But people need to know, the enemy will stage terror attacks.

02:11:46.000 The enemy will release bio-plagues. 0.51

02:11:48.000 I mean, these people are hardcore killers.

02:11:50.000 They funded Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Lenin. 0.59

02:11:53.000 Pol Pot, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Obama's chief advisor, brags in two books he wrote about how they did it. 0.99

02:11:59.000 I mean, these people are sick!

02:12:01.000 And, so just because people are waking up, I don't want people to think we're out of this.

02:12:05.000 This is deep.

02:12:06.000 This is serious.

02:12:08.000 And, the new order is going to hurt everybody out there.

02:12:09.000 You know, I've made mistakes in the past.

02:12:12.000 I had a...

02:12:12.000 By the police that have been brainwashed and been militarized, and then I lash out instead of, historically, reach out to police and military, and they are waking up now.

02:12:28.000 Look, Ron Paul got more contributions from the military than anybody else.

02:12:31.000 And that's how we're going to defeat this.

02:12:34.000 As Jack McClam says, we've got to have the police on our side.

02:12:38.000 Because the truth is, we're all on the same side, even if we decide to fight with each other.

02:12:41.000 When we fight with each other, the New World Order wins. 1.00

02:12:43.000 Your comments on that, officer?

02:12:44.000 Well, I agree with you. - Hmm.

02:12:49.000 I know what side I'm on, and a lot of the police officers I talk to, they know what side they're on.

02:12:55.000 And I tell them, you know, you're gonna have a choice to make one day.

02:12:59.000 You're gonna be asked to do some horrible things, and you have to think about it right now.

02:13:03.000 Are you going to take people's guns away from them?

02:13:06.000 Are you going to force people into cattle cars?

02:13:09.000 Remember what Hitler did. 0.98

02:13:11.000 I impressed upon at least the young officers, the old officers, they understand what's going on, where this country is going, and they understand they have to wake up and they have to be on the side of Americans.

02:13:23.000 And we took an oath, and I remind these people that this oath is for our country.

02:13:31.000 We have to defend this Constitution.

02:13:34.000 This is the best Constitution in the world, and we have to keep it in force.

02:13:40.000 Yeah, basically this report takes the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, everything good and wholesome, and then just spray paints white supremacist cop killer all over it in an attempt to demonize the very heart of this country. 0.90

02:13:54.000 It's asinine, it's a fraud, and I am just buoyed by the fact that so many police and military are waking up, not from my information, but from the over-the-top nature of the criminal fed government's propaganda.

02:14:10.000 Right, and coupled with what Obama's doing right now, he's doing what you predicted he would do. 0.95

02:14:16.000 I mean, with his gun control, he's doing exactly what you're saying.

02:14:21.000 He's trying to stop us from having 2-2-3 rounds, from having 3-0-8 rounds, and this is nuts.

02:14:26.000 It's not going to work.

02:14:29.000 Well, I mean, I'd like to brag and say I'm real smart, but I'm really not.

02:14:33.000 I just go off what the white papers in government and corporations say they're going to do, versus what they publicly say on the news.

02:14:40.000 I mean, my job's like reading a TV guide.

02:14:42.000 I mean, the UN, on July 7th, 2001, at the UNITER meeting in New York with thousands in attendance, said, we're going to take every civilian-owned firearm, period.

02:14:52.000 Single-shot, black powder.

02:14:54.000 We're going to take all of it.

02:14:58.000 So, you know, that's their goal.

02:15:00.000 And so we're just laying it out.

02:15:02.000 I mean, now the veterans found out that Obama was planning to make them get their own insurance.

02:15:07.000 I mean, the people are finding out that it's a bunch of made-off criminals.

02:15:12.000 The state police in your organization, I mean, are they aware of the banker takeover and how that's a scam as well?

02:15:18.000 Well, not quite.

02:15:19.000 That's a little too esoteric for them.

02:15:21.000 I tried to explain to some of them.

02:15:24.000 Some of them get it some way.

02:15:26.000 Portions of it, but they don't get it totally.

02:15:32.000 That's a little bit of a difficult role to hold.

02:15:39.000 But you're saying on the Second Amendment issue, and there's a document, cop killer, white supremacist, we've got to restrict guns, you know, they mix that in, they saw through that?

02:15:48.000 Right, they've seen clearly through that because, like I said, a lot of them Almost majority of them.

02:15:55.000 They have guns.

02:15:56.000 They have rifles.

02:15:58.000 They go to ranges.

02:15:59.000 They shoot.

02:16:00.000 And I guess some of them are called gun nuts.

02:16:05.000 They're not going to get their guns.

02:16:07.000 They're not.

02:16:09.000 But they are trying to hire a bunch of social worker, mainline liberal types who are anti-gun-to-be police, but once they get into the culture, it is a pro-Second Amendment, pro-self-defense culture.

02:16:20.000 I mean, the 10% that are brainwashed, what are they like?

02:16:25.000 A few of them are Obama supporters, and a couple of them I know mainly because they're wives and they get harassed for it. 1.00

02:16:40.000 It's kind of hard to have a cookie cutter for them.

02:16:43.000 It runs the gamut.

02:16:45.000 They could be left and right, but... Well, but I mean, you're saying that ten percent, though, are just buying this. 0.67

02:16:55.000 I mean, they get a thing saying basically Ron Paul supporters are terrorists, libertarians are terrorists, and they just, they buy that. 0.77

02:17:03.000 They buy it. 0.86

02:17:03.000 About ten percent. 0.86

02:17:04.000 But they get harassed.

02:17:07.000 Wake up, you know?

02:17:10.000 Well, you know, the other officers, they harass him about it.

02:17:13.000 Come on, you guys gotta wake up.

02:17:15.000 This one article, and actually, it sits right on my briefing table in the briefing room.

02:17:22.000 And so, people view it every day and make fun of it.

02:17:26.000 This was, I think, the coup de grace for the New World Order, at least in this little battle.

02:17:35.000 This is waking a lot of people up as to what's really going on in this country.

02:17:42.000 Well, I think the police I talk to are starting to realize, too, that it's not going to be a fun job trying to disarm the American people, because 10% of gun owners are a lot of them are veterans.

02:17:53.000 They're not happy about life, the economy.

02:17:56.000 If 10% of 140 million gun owners fight back, we're talking about 10 million, 14 million people.

02:18:02.000 I mean, do the police ever talk about what it would be like to try to go out and confiscate guns?

02:18:08.000 No.

02:18:10.000 No, not specifically.

02:18:13.000 I don't think it's going to come.

02:18:15.000 They don't think it's going to come to that.

02:18:17.000 But I try to put that little thought in their head, so they at least think about it.

02:18:21.000 So when that decision does arrive, at least they have thought about it.

02:18:28.000 Well, they'll keep doing it incrementally, but I just hope that officers are supposed to judge the law as well as the facts, have wide discretion, because I've read over the law.

02:18:41.000 I know most police are pro-Second Amendment because they understand guns are not stupid, but then you've got that other type where you can be in the countryside now in East Texas, walking across the road to your land to go bird hunt, a cop will pull up and say, what's that shotgun for?

02:18:53.000 So there's certainly that percentage, that 10%.

02:18:56.000 Well, I mean, I'm sure you've heard about Ron Paul supporters that have been harassed, and now we know why.

02:19:00.000 Well, why do you have a Ron Paul sticker?

02:19:02.000 Well, why are you asking?

02:19:06.000 Yes, I have heard about Ron Paul supporters, since I am one, being harassed.

02:19:12.000 Like you said, Jason Burma said, keep a tape recorder with you, and I do keep a tape recorder in my car.

02:19:22.000 And yeah, and I do carry a badge and everything, but I still keep a tape recorder because, hey, this conversation goes downhill.

02:19:29.000 I want verifiable proof that I was stopped illegally, illegally, for a wrongful sign on the back of my car.

02:19:36.000 Well, Officer, this has been an amazing discussion.

02:19:38.000 We salute your courage and what you've done, and I want to get you back in the next few weeks for a longer interview here on the show.

02:19:45.000 Thank you so much for spending time with us.

02:19:48.000 You're welcome, and thank you for all the hard work.

02:19:51.000 God bless you.

02:19:52.000 All right, there he goes, state police officer of an unnamed state, David.

02:19:55.000 We're going to come back, go to Stuart Rhodes with Oath Keepers.

02:19:58.000 Thank you so much for joining us, sir.

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02:24:07.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:24:10.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

02:24:13.000 I went down, down, down, and the flames went higher.

02:24:18.000 And it burned.

02:24:19.000 Kurt Nemo's got the story up.

02:24:21.000 Baldwin, Paul, and Barr sent a letter in opposition to MIAC report to Missouri officials.

02:24:26.000 Good job, Kurt Nemo, on that.

02:24:27.000 We'll have a letter up there soon.

02:24:29.000 But we need to add in here that they're considering suing.

02:24:33.000 That needs to be in the headline.

02:24:34.000 You know, they're considering litigation if lies not retracted or demonization not retracted.

02:24:41.000 Something like, Paul, you know, Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Baldwin, write letter to Mayak, report demonizing, you know, their supporters.

02:24:52.000 And that needs to be in the first line.

02:24:55.000 I'm doing editing even here on the air, ladies and gentlemen.

02:24:57.000 It's insane.

02:24:58.000 We're joined for the rest of the hour, and I apologize for getting him on late, but we decided to have a state police officer on.

02:25:02.000 But it's a perfect segue into this.

02:25:03.000 Stuart Rhodes created a great website.

02:25:06.000 He's a constitutional lawyer.

02:25:07.000 But masses of military and police have been saying they pledge to be oath keepers and not violate the Bill of Rights Constitution and to follow their oath.

02:25:16.000 Uh, and it's, it's, when I read it, I said, this person has a deep knowledge of what's going on, because this is how I would have written it, probably better than I would have written it.

02:25:23.000 So, uh, Stuart Rhodes, thanks for coming on, sir.

02:25:26.000 Oh, you're welcome, and you're absolutely right.

02:25:27.000 That was a fantastic segue.

02:25:29.000 That officer is an oath-keeper.

02:25:32.000 And that's exactly what we are here to do, is to bring more men like that out.

02:25:38.000 And most of the members of our organization don't use their real names, or we don't even want to know who they are.

02:25:45.000 Because just like that gentleman there just did, we want them to be able to continue in their job and continue doing the good work for the American people.

02:25:53.000 But because the federal government is so out of control and criminal, I mean, that's a sad testament that these officers don't even really have their own First Amendment.

02:26:00.000 To say they don't appreciate the country being destroyed.

02:26:03.000 That's right, and standing up and saying you might actually obey the Constitution, because you can't.

02:26:08.000 So that's the world we live in right now.

02:26:10.000 But you've probably been to our site, you can see the Florida testimonials we have in from veterans.

02:26:15.000 Most of the veterans are not afraid to put their name on it because they're no longer within reach of being punished for it.

02:26:22.000 And they're standing up and saying, no, we're not going to do this.

02:26:25.000 And the veterans are very important because the veterans are there to teach the young bucks how to behave, to show them what they're supposed to be doing.

02:26:33.000 And so that's our mission, is to remind them of their oath, to teach them what it was they swore an oath to defend, and then to steal their resolve to do what's right.

02:26:41.000 And that officer is correct.

02:26:43.000 You've got to do that in advance.

02:26:45.000 You've got to do it ahead of time, so that when you draw your own lines in the sand and prepare yourself mentally to do what's right, and then you'll do it.

02:26:52.000 Absolutely.

02:26:54.000 Just amazing testimonials on the sidewalk.

02:26:58.000 What gave you the idea to create this and how many people have come on the site and pledged in just a few weeks it's been up that they're going to stand by the Constitution and Bill of Rights?

02:27:07.000 Well, I was working for In Commerce Paul's campaign here in Nevada.

02:27:11.000 I used to work in his D.C.

02:27:12.000 office, but I was so focused on the campaign.

02:27:14.000 But about a year and a half ago, I had the idea that, you know, what do we do next?

02:27:18.000 And if this campaign is not successful, what's our next move?

02:27:22.000 And my thought was, as well, let's have our focus of effort be on the men with the guns.

02:27:28.000 If you're going to have an awakening of one million people, if you're going to have a chance to awaken one million people to be constitutionalists, would you want to focus on the military?

02:27:37.000 And those are the men who are supposed to be our guardians.

02:27:44.000 They're the guardians of the Republic.

02:27:46.000 That's what they are.

02:27:47.000 Yes.

02:27:47.000 If tyranny is going to come, it's going to come in the form of a uniform.

02:27:51.000 The Ron Paul revolution has probably woken up.

02:27:53.000 Even mainstream media says probably 20-30 million Americans identify now.

02:27:57.000 Imagine if we focused on the police and military.

02:28:00.000 Game over for the New World Order.

02:28:02.000 Go ahead.

02:28:02.000 Exactly.

02:28:03.000 Precisely.

02:28:03.000 It's like maneuver warfare theory.

02:28:05.000 You go to the rear of the enemy, you go to the heart of their strength.

02:28:08.000 It's kind of like in the Lord of the Rings, how the Ring of Power They think the ring of power is that these guys are going to do whatever they say.

02:28:15.000 They think the oath is their ring of power.

02:28:16.000 But it's not true.

02:28:17.000 The oath is to the Constitution, and even more fundamentally, it's to the people.

02:28:21.000 And so, we're going to take that, right to Mount Doom, and toss it right up their chute.

02:28:26.000 Oh man, that analogy is just pure gold.

02:28:29.000 You are something special.

02:28:32.000 Well, let me tell you something.

02:28:33.000 I write for SWOT Magazine and here's what actually got me thinking about this.

02:28:36.000 About a year and a half ago, I wrote a column and in response to that column, we got a letter from a U.S.

02:28:43.000 J.R.

02:28:43.000 Ewell, Colonel, U.S.

02:28:45.000 Army, retired.

02:28:46.000 And he said, the Constitution and our Bill of Rights are gravely endangered today.

02:28:50.000 Well, I mean, police are going to lose their houses.

02:28:52.000 They already are.

02:28:52.000 They're going to lose their future in this new world order.

02:28:56.000 That's right.

02:28:57.000 And he had the same insight you did as, look, they can't do it without those guys.

02:29:01.000 Game over.

02:29:02.000 It'd be like the end of the movie V for Vendetta.

02:29:03.000 The military stands down and there's nothing between the people and the vultures.

02:29:09.000 Nothing.

02:29:10.000 And that's what our goal is.

02:29:11.000 Well, I mean, police are going to lose their houses.

02:29:14.000 They already are.

02:29:14.000 They're going to lose their future in this new world order.

02:29:16.000 That's right.

02:29:17.000 They're going to lose their Second Amendment.

02:29:18.000 Yeah, and their children will be indentured servants for the rest of their lives.

02:29:23.000 That's right.

02:29:25.000 Yeah, the globalists have overplayed their hand.

02:29:27.000 I keep telling listeners, the phony churches on government payroll, I told you this a decade ago, now it's declassified, are telling you to stand down.

02:29:36.000 So, there's several rings of power.

02:29:38.000 One is the police and the enforcers.

02:29:40.000 The others is the churches.

02:29:42.000 Gotta take those back.

02:29:43.000 Stay there, sir.

02:29:44.000 We're gonna tell folks how they can visit the Oath Keepers website when we come back.

02:29:51.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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02:33:00.000 They railed against the crown.

02:33:10.000 Another ragtag band.

02:33:13.000 Another red tag man Declaring independence.

02:33:20.000 They laid their bodies down in a bloody war.

02:33:26.000 For liberty, for their descendants.

02:33:31.000 Look in the mirror, that's you, that's me.

02:33:35.000 Thanks to the renegades, we're free today.

02:33:39.000 Thanks to the renegades, we're free today.

02:33:45.000 Thank God for the Renegades and the lives they lead.

02:33:51.000 Far ahead of their time.

02:33:57.000 Without the Renegades, Lord knows where we'd be.

02:34:04.000 When it comes to heroes, Renegades are mine.

02:34:09.000 And going back to the Mordor analogy, you have the tower, the mountain of power, the all-seeing eye, with its armies moving across the world, but right here, in its command base, right here in Empire US, it is distracted, looking, looking everywhere for the ring.

02:34:26.000 It's, that's what this MIAC report is, is they're counting On the police and military being Uruk-hai or orcs or black ships from the east.

02:34:36.000 They're planning on them going along with this evil and being seduced by the dark side.

02:34:43.000 By being played and manipulated and maneuvered into war with the American people as they destroy their own futures, as they burn their own beds, their own nest. 0.54

02:34:53.000 It's going to fail.

02:34:55.000 It is going to fail.

02:34:56.000 You have to first believe that and know that and reach out to the police and military now so they understand and educate them.

02:35:03.000 Waking up one police officer or one active-duty military person is like waking up a thousand regular Americans.

02:35:09.000 Now we have to also understand that the key here is is there's people like Stuart Rhodes over there with Oath-keepers.blogspot.com.

02:35:19.000 Oath-keepers.blogspot.com or just Google his name, Stuart Rhodes, Oath Keepers, and it'll come up for you.

02:35:25.000 We've got it up on screen right now at PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:35:28.000 The fact that there is Ron Paul and Alex Jones and Stuart Rhodes and Jesse Ventura and thousands of other prominent people fighting, not just millions waking up and fighting, they kill me and only makes my information grow that much faster.

02:35:41.000 If I was the only guy doing this, though, I'd be dead.

02:35:43.000 If Stuart was the only guy doing this, they'd go set him up or something.

02:35:46.000 But there's too many of us now.

02:35:47.000 They can't target and intimidate.

02:35:49.000 They had the Ron Paul girl in here last night. 0.99

02:35:51.000 I didn't know that.

02:35:52.000 She was on my show last time. 1.00

02:35:53.000 They were waiting for her outside.

02:35:54.000 Yeah, Amy Allen, with crowbars, stealing nothing, just put her in the hospital, breaking bones. 1.00

02:36:02.000 That is the type of intimidation.

02:36:04.000 I've been physically attacked. 0.99

02:36:05.000 And they've told me, shut up or you're dead next time.

02:36:07.000 But I fought back and fought them off, and they didn't like getting hurt real bad. 0.78

02:36:10.000 I got hurt bad too, but they were surprised that I wasn't a sheep.

02:36:13.000 And I actually went absolutely ape.

02:36:15.000 Because I'm not a slave, folks.

02:36:17.000 You attack me, I attack right back.

02:36:19.000 Quite frankly, the time enjoyed it.

02:36:21.000 You know, I mean, that's just how I am.

02:36:23.000 That's living there, you know.

02:36:24.000 You don't really live until four people are pounding on you.

02:36:26.000 But sad for her, she's a little girl.

02:36:28.000 They hurt her bad.

02:36:29.000 But you can't let that scare you.

02:36:30.000 You gotta say, oh, that means I'm hurting you.

02:36:32.000 That means I'm getting close to the crack of doom to dump this ring in.

02:36:36.000 You have to dare great, ladies and gentlemen, and you can succeed.

02:36:38.000 Okay, I'm going to shut up.

02:36:39.000 I made those points.

02:36:40.000 It's just that they're also trying to divide our movements, trying to demonize, trying to say, don't trust this leader, don't trust that leader.

02:36:46.000 That's the operatives.

02:36:46.000 That's what COINTELPRO does.

02:36:47.000 This person's a Mason.

02:36:49.000 That person's a Vatican assassin.

02:36:51.000 This person works for Israel.

02:36:53.000 It's the information that's key.

02:36:54.000 Bill of Rights, Constitution, Liberty, Second Amendment, National Sovereignty.

02:36:58.000 Cut the size of government.

02:36:59.000 Kick them out of the states.

02:37:01.000 You know a tree by its fruits.

02:37:03.000 So the other attack is to divide us.

02:37:07.000 Now, go ahead and comment on those points, Stuart Rhodes, and let's get into the Oath Keepers.

02:37:12.000 Well, you're absolutely right, and that's why Oath Keepers, we've always stressed that this was first contemplated and first planned before the election.

02:37:22.000 We didn't care who got elected.

02:37:24.000 It didn't make a difference who was going to be president.

02:37:26.000 We saw the growth of the executive power.

02:37:27.000 And we're talking about active duty military and veterans.

02:37:30.000 And these gentlemen don't care who's president.

02:37:33.000 We're looking at the big picture.

02:37:35.000 And we're also, we stay neutral on politics.

02:37:38.000 We stay neutral on the Iraq war.

02:37:39.000 In fact, I'll be speaking at, possibly speaking at a big event in June, a big pro-trups rally in June.

02:37:46.000 I was invited by former Navy SEAL captain Larry Bailey of Gathering of Eagles in So a lot of the more hardcore conservative groups who might not have listened during Bush are starting to wake up and understand what the great danger is.

02:37:59.000 And so we're seeing an awakening, like this officer said.

02:38:01.000 It's a quickening.

02:38:02.000 And it doesn't make a difference.

02:38:04.000 Forget about left and right.

02:38:06.000 Forget about that kind of stuff.

02:38:07.000 Like you've said before, it's about liberty or tyranny.

02:38:10.000 That's the dividing line.

02:38:12.000 And so we go back to the basics.

02:38:13.000 We go back to the definition of independence.

02:38:15.000 We go back to the Bill of Rights.

02:38:17.000 We go back to the Constitution.

02:38:18.000 Those are our all, those are our common bond.

02:38:23.000 Absolutely.

02:38:24.000 That's all we care about.

02:38:25.000 And you swore an oath to defend the Constitution, and you swore an oath more fundamentally to defend the people of this country.

02:38:32.000 And that's all we care about.

02:38:33.000 That's what really matters.

02:38:34.000 And their interest is with the American people, too.

02:38:38.000 Of course.

02:38:38.000 Well, you know what?

02:38:39.000 They don't belong to the Mordor and the Potomac.

02:38:41.000 They belong to us.

02:38:42.000 They're our fathers.

02:38:43.000 They're our sons.

02:38:44.000 They're our sisters.

02:38:45.000 They're our uncles.

02:38:46.000 They are us.

02:38:47.000 They don't belong to them.

02:38:49.000 They belong to us.

02:38:51.000 We're taking them back.

02:38:52.000 That's right.

02:38:52.000 They don't belong to Mordor, do they?

02:38:54.000 No, they don't.

02:38:55.000 Yeah.

02:38:56.000 We're taking them back.

02:38:57.000 They belong to Midas Terra.

02:39:00.000 That's the whole thing.

02:39:01.000 And that's why they have to demonize people.

02:39:04.000 That's why you saw HR 1955 with a bipartisan assault on the American people.

02:39:09.000 First thing you do is you label someone the enemy, you make them the other, you dehumanize them, and then you turn the forces against them.

02:39:18.000 And so, but we're fighting back, and I think your show is important in that.

02:39:23.000 You know what I think woke the military and police up the biggest, and we've confirmed this with state police and military everywhere, and it's even been in the news, but we knew about it before it was, you know, I mean, the point is before it was in the news, they're telling them that, you know, mainline Americans are about to start bombing police stations. 0.74

02:39:37.000 We've got to do IED training.

02:39:39.000 The Army's going to be on the streets of America.

02:39:41.000 It'll be a new world order, but it's good, and those that are against it are bad.

02:39:44.000 Right.

02:39:45.000 They're now seeing the whole apparatus that was supposedly to fight Al-Qaeda has now been swung around like a cannon and aimed at the American people, and the police and military are going, whoa!

02:39:55.000 That's right, yeah.

02:39:57.000 In fact, we just now put up on our site an article on how enemy combatant status was first proposed during the Clinton administration.

02:40:05.000 Most folks don't realize that, but that idea of using tribunals for even American citizens was first proposed during the Clinton years to be used against McVeigh and the militias.

02:40:15.000 And what Clinton didn't do, Bush, unfortunately, put into full effect, and now Obama's got it, and it's very likely he'll turn around and apply it domestically to average gun owners.

02:40:26.000 That's what we think might be the next spark.

02:40:28.000 You know, going back to the Mordor analogy, it's just too good.

02:40:31.000 Remember when the Keeper of the Fortress goes insane and says, no, we're all dead, and starts pouring oil on himself, saying, we can't beat them, there's nothing we can do, and sets himself on fire?

02:40:43.000 That's the spirit.

02:40:45.000 More than just waking up police and military, the change is an inside job.

02:40:50.000 It's all of us have to decide victory is ours.

02:40:53.000 And it's not just a spirit or an idea, it's the truth!

02:40:57.000 We have incredible power!

02:40:59.000 But we have to prepare ourselves, steel ourselves, as you said, like steel, to understand this work and just commit.

02:41:06.000 And when you commit, and aren't worried if they demonize you, set you up, kill you, whatever they're going to do, you just commit.

02:41:11.000 It's like a million pound weight goes off of you and you're truly alive.

02:41:15.000 And you're now in communion with the Founding Fathers and every other rebel against tyranny in history.

02:41:20.000 That's right.

02:41:21.000 We're all going to die anyway.

02:41:22.000 No one gets out of here alive.

02:41:23.000 So what counts is whether you leave your children free.

02:41:25.000 That's all that matters.

02:41:27.000 That's all that matters.

02:41:28.000 That's really it.

02:41:29.000 And to take back your analogy there, they want you to think it's hopeless.

02:41:34.000 Yeah, it's like you're staring into the... You're seeing only their propaganda.

02:41:38.000 If all you do is look at what they want you to see, you'll think it's hopeless.

02:41:43.000 That's right.

02:41:43.000 He's staring into the crystal, and it's only what... It's a TV set.

02:41:48.000 It's only what Mordor wants them to see.

02:41:50.000 That's exactly right.

02:41:51.000 Like Claire Wolfe said, break your TV. 0.62

02:41:54.000 Break that stuff and get on the web and communicate with your fellow man.

02:41:58.000 And here's the thing about Oath Keepers, it's positive.

02:42:00.000 That's why people respond to us so much.

02:42:02.000 It's positive.

02:42:03.000 It's not just more negativity.

02:42:05.000 They're starting to see the other side.

02:42:06.000 Like you said, we have the strength.

02:42:10.000 And we have the power.

02:42:11.000 And you can't just assume the military is your enemy.

02:42:14.000 You can't just assume police are your enemy.

02:42:16.000 They want you to think that.

02:42:19.000 I have fallen into that.

02:42:20.000 I mean, over the years, I've also got to reach out to them when I see the outrage.

02:42:23.000 I started wondering about five years ago, why does the media show the worst police brutality over and over again?

02:42:28.000 Why do they focus on it so much?

02:42:30.000 And then I realized they want to split us apart, which puts the police more in their gang mentality and the people more in their mentality.

02:42:36.000 And that's why they're advertising it.

02:42:38.000 And I'm actually helping them.

02:42:40.000 When I make a big deal out of it.

02:42:43.000 Well, you know, you gotta have the truth.

02:42:44.000 Like Patrick Henry said, you gotta see the truth and know the truth.

02:42:47.000 No, no, no.

02:42:47.000 Exactly.

02:42:48.000 We put the truth out, but we have to also add, understand, they're encouraging officers to act like this, and understand they're not all like this, and if we fall in to just hating them and being threatened by them, that's what they want.

02:43:00.000 That's right.

02:43:01.000 And that's one of the values of having a man like he just had on, where he tells you, look, not all officers are like this.

02:43:06.000 And you'd be surprised.

02:43:07.000 We have a testimonial up on our site by a police officer.

02:43:10.000 I'm going to find it here while we're talking and I'll read it to you.

02:43:12.000 But he just basically says, look, the majority of the guys are my force.

02:43:16.000 Agreed.

02:43:17.000 We won't do these things.

02:43:19.000 And I'm hearing that from Marines, too.

02:43:21.000 I got a Marine sergeant the other day I talked to on the phone.

02:43:23.000 He's like, I talk to my guys about this stuff all the time, and I make sure they know their oath.

02:43:27.000 A lot of the young guys, when they first get to his unit, they think that their oath is to the President, and they have to set them straight.

02:43:33.000 But now more and more we're talking about this stuff.

02:43:35.000 And that was going on before we found out Oath Keepers.

02:43:38.000 It was going on already.

02:43:40.000 So we're just kind of tapping into what's already happening.

02:43:42.000 I'm looking for that right now.

02:43:43.000 Here we go.

02:43:44.000 This officer says he's a Texas police officer, because after serving in the Navy from 90 to 93 on board the USS Blue Ridge, I became a police officer and I'm still on the force.

02:43:55.000 Not only will I refuse any unlawful order that violates the Constitution, I will fight the tyrants that give the orders.

02:44:01.000 Rest assured that me and my brothers in law enforcement talk about this subject on a regular basis.

02:44:06.000 About 80% feel the same way I do.

02:44:08.000 I ask the rookies that when it comes down to nut-cutting, whose side will you be on?

02:44:13.000 The founding fathers who made this country so great?

02:44:16.000 Or the tyrants that are in power now?

02:44:18.000 I took the oath twice and will uphold it two-fold.

02:44:21.000 God bless America.

02:44:22.000 And he signed his name, Colin Connolly.

02:44:25.000 Some people are willing to put their names on it, other folks understandably are not.

02:44:29.000 But that's the sentiment we're getting.

02:44:31.000 We're getting flooded emails like that.

02:44:33.000 Saying, yeah, we're with you, you know?

02:44:38.000 Well, I would add to this that, you know, getting into the spiritual angle of this, standing up for liberty and goodness, you know, as Martin Luther King said, the universe bends towards truth, towards justice, that it's providence.

02:44:52.000 And if you don't understand that, folks, when you decide to fight evil and really get your head straight, and you really are fighting evil, not being manipulated into fighting some red herring the establishment gives you, they're very good at that, It's like an electrical connection.

02:45:05.000 It's spiritual.

02:45:06.000 And when I said that earlier, you literally then connect in to the Founding Fathers and everybody else that stood up for goodness.

02:45:13.000 You literally connect into the disciples who were fighting the corruption of Rome.

02:45:17.000 It's like a barrier, a dam.

02:45:20.000 That's right.

02:45:21.000 And the first thing you've got to do is you've got to not let fear control you.

02:45:23.000 You've got to look at the big picture and realize that that's the value of the oath.

02:45:26.000 There's always evil trying to take over.

02:45:28.000 There's always evil trying to dominate.

02:45:30.000 This is what life is all about, is defending liberty and freedom and building things and making life better. - That's right.

02:45:38.000 And the first thing you gotta do is you gotta not let fear control you.

02:45:42.000 You gotta look at the big picture and realize that...

02:45:44.000 That's the value of the oath, is that everyone has taken that oath in the military.

02:45:51.000 They did so understand that it could mean their life.

02:45:54.000 And these men, they take it so seriously still.

02:45:57.000 I've gotten letters, I can't even read them, I'll start bawling, but letters from Vietnam veterans and Korean War veterans, and they still take that O-serious to this day.

02:46:08.000 And they understand that they have a line going all the way back.

02:46:13.000 You know, the men of April 19, 1775, even before that, you know, they understand that the line of men who have fought and bled and died for freedom, and they understand that all those men gave them a sacred trust, and now it's their watch.

02:46:30.000 That's why our motto is, it's not on our watch, because now it's our turn.

02:46:35.000 To make sure that the White of Liberty does not go out. 0.80

02:46:39.000 Because if America falls, the world will fall into an age of darkness.

02:46:45.000 And that's the truth.

02:46:46.000 And these guys, they know it.

02:46:47.000 They're waking up... Well, look at North Korea! 0.98

02:46:50.000 Look at China! 1.00

02:46:51.000 Look at Mexico! 0.92

02:46:51.000 They're all falling into total corruption, mass murder, and open sewage running down the streets. 0.92

02:46:57.000 That's what evil does!

02:46:58.000 And very few nations in history... We haven't been perfect here in the U.S., but compared to others, it's been amazing.

02:47:06.000 4% of the world's population, half the world's wealth, until the bankers took over.

02:47:09.000 Now they're taking it from us.

02:47:10.000 And that was produced here.

02:47:12.000 And again, that's what a little bit of liberty.

02:47:14.000 We haven't been perfect, but it's a lot compared to other countries. 0.65

02:47:18.000 The jewel of liberty, as Thomas Jefferson said, must be guarded.

02:47:21.000 It is the engine of everything good.

02:47:23.000 That's it.

02:47:24.000 I mean, that's it.

02:47:25.000 Freedom is all that matters.

02:47:27.000 And as Franklin said, those who would give up freedom for perceived security will have neither.

02:47:32.000 And so you can't give up freedom.

02:47:33.000 It's the fundamental, like you just said, it's the engine of all that's good.

02:47:37.000 And so the secret is not to let fear control you.

02:47:41.000 And since 9-11, people have been so afraid, they've allowed all the infrastructure of a totalitarian state to be put in place.

02:47:49.000 And as you know.

02:47:50.000 And so now what we have to do is we have to stop it.

02:47:53.000 And you don't stop it in the courts.

02:47:54.000 And apparently you don't stop it in Congress either.

02:47:56.000 They'll go ahead and do whatever they want anyway.

02:47:58.000 What you do is you stop it at the base level of the people just saying no.

02:48:02.000 There's an example.

02:48:04.000 I was on 93.7 FM for an hour yesterday downtown during South by Southwest.

02:48:09.000 And I walked by three police.

02:48:11.000 And they were all fans of the show and wanted to shake my hand.

02:48:15.000 So, you know, that's an example.

02:48:18.000 Even after all of my, you know, ranting and raving, you know, they've told me, hey, we don't like what's happening either.

02:48:24.000 And we don't like how the media just totally focuses on the bad cops.

02:48:28.000 And so I can see I was, I've also been fooled by that spell.

02:48:31.000 You know, as I get older, I learn more and more how this sophisticated mind control system works.

02:48:36.000 All of us, you know, are waking up together.

02:48:38.000 And I agree.

02:48:39.000 I mean, when I sit on there, I feel a quickening.

02:48:41.000 I see a quickening.

02:48:42.000 It's like I just, you know, jumped off a 300-foot cliff into cold, icy water.

02:48:47.000 I mean, it's invigorating.

02:48:48.000 It's bracing.

02:48:49.000 It's like, whoa!

02:48:50.000 And then to realize that myself and others are at the very center of a crossroads that is the future destiny of humanity.

02:48:59.000 When people look back on this time, it's going to dwarf the importance of 1776, I believe.

02:49:04.000 It might well, it might well.

02:49:06.000 And that's the key, is to break the spell.

02:49:08.000 You know, they've been under a spell, and we've been under a spell, and it's time to break it.

02:49:12.000 Absolutely.

02:49:14.000 And so what we did is we issued a declaration of 10 orders we will not obey.

02:49:19.000 And that's what's kind of causing a lot of controversy and firestorm.

02:49:23.000 And when I go around the web and look at different forums that are discussing it, what's happening is exactly what we wanted to happen.

02:49:29.000 We wanted veterans and current serving military to have discussions about where their line is.

02:49:35.000 Each person has their own.

02:49:36.000 Every service member has an obligation.

02:49:39.000 Not just that they can refuse a legal order or an lawful order.

02:49:43.000 They have an obligation to.

02:49:46.000 They have to.

02:49:47.000 And so they have to make a decision for themselves where that line is.

02:49:50.000 And so, as the author said a minute ago, you have to do it ahead of time.

02:49:53.000 So that's our declaration of 10 orders.

02:49:55.000 We carefully cracked these to tie into American history, because history is repeating itself.

02:50:01.000 Much of the causes of the revolution are happening again, and also the history of the 20th century with the death camps and mass internment.

02:50:09.000 And what we see happening today, it all flows together.

02:50:12.000 So do you want to go down to the ten orders?

02:50:15.000 Yeah, let's do that in the next segment, and if you can stay five minutes to the next hour that our next guest is coming on, I want to invite you back routinely.

02:50:21.000 I know you're a busy guy, but you need to talk to Ted Anderson, maybe get a Genesis radio show or something.

02:50:25.000 You're very, very eloquent, and when we come back, we'll go over the ten points, but what I like is that, you know, that huge Ron Paul revolution, at first people were like, oh, it went nowhere.

02:50:34.000 And I said, no, it's a delayed explosion, like in Force 10 Navarone, when they bombed the dam and they're like, where is it?

02:50:39.000 And he said, just sitting there smoking a pipe.

02:50:41.000 Just wait a moment.

02:50:42.000 You know, that's how, and then suddenly it starts breaking.

02:50:46.000 And now we're seeing that, and people realize they can defeat the enemy in the Info War, and now they're just blasting, they're picking up arms in the revolution of the mind.

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02:54:58.000 Barack Obama, the front man of the New World Order, the tip of the spear in their war against humanity.

02:55:02.000 Wake up to them.

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02:55:07.000 Their attack on every basic liberty.

02:55:09.000 It's over the top.

02:55:10.000 I'm sure you heard, sir, Stuart Rhodes with Oath Keepers, oath-keepers.blogspot.com, that the House has passed the forced conscription of the American people bill, and I happen to have the Army code that the Pentagon has issued saying it will be forced military service.

02:55:29.000 I mean the hour is late.

02:55:31.000 Yes, but that's okay.

02:55:33.000 It's darkest before the dawn.

02:55:35.000 And so I think it's pretty clear that we're going to stand tall.

02:55:38.000 That's why we bumped up our program.

02:55:40.000 We were going to do a regular site, but we saw that things were happening.

02:55:45.000 In fact, I called Colonel Hapgood, also of the Iowa National Guard, and he lied to me like he lied to you.

02:55:52.000 They have a dedicated mouth facility 80 miles north of that town they're going to do the exercise in, and he just flat-lied to us.

02:55:57.000 And so that's one thing that got us hopping mad and decided to put it up on Blogspot first.

02:56:02.000 One thing I do want to say, I want to let folks know that I write for Swat Magazine, and I want to make it clear that that's a magazine that's, you know, most people think it's just for law enforcement.

02:56:11.000 It's not.

02:56:12.000 And the gentlemen who run that magazine are dedicated patriots, and they're going to get both keepers free ad space.

02:56:17.000 So I encourage folks to check out Swat Magazine, run by true patriots.

02:56:22.000 So that's my plug for them.

02:56:24.000 No, yeah, give out the website.

02:56:26.000 No, that's good.

02:56:27.000 We have to take the high ground here.

02:56:29.000 That's right.

02:56:30.000 Yeah, you betcha.

02:56:31.000 And their mission has always been, that's why they asked me to write that column.

02:56:34.000 They used to have Claire Wolfe write it.

02:56:35.000 You know Claire Wolfe is, correct?

02:56:37.000 Yes.

02:56:38.000 Right.

02:56:38.000 She used to write the Enemy at the Gate column, and then she had to take it over when she got gunned and burned out.

02:56:43.000 But their mission is to make sure that there's the separation between law enforcement Well, we knew this would come when the New World Order emerged and admitted everything we've been warning people about.

02:56:51.000 the man that owns SWAT has stood up and dedicated that entire column every month to the mission of defending the Bill of Rights.

02:56:59.000 Well, we knew this would come when the New World Order emerged and admitted everything we've been warning people about.

02:57:05.000 That's why I said, even if we get laughed at, tell people the documents, tell them the truth, because when they finally emerge, when they make their big move, which is now happening, then people would have been warned, and then they would wake up.

02:57:15.000 But also, as the police and military are being twisted in their mission now to carry out globalism, That would be the big wake up call there.

02:57:22.000 I think the enemy trying to program them right now is waking police and military up faster than even the patriots. 0.75

02:57:30.000 Absolutely, and of course Obama is acting like a complete fool with what he did with the veterans and forced them to pay for their own medical care. 0.94

02:57:38.000 It's just a huge blunder. 0.99

02:57:40.000 It just shows the arrogance.

02:57:41.000 The humorous.

02:57:43.000 Oh yeah, and so the anger and outrage.

02:57:45.000 They're blind.

02:57:46.000 They can't see certain things.

02:57:47.000 They're almost autistic in some ways. 0.77

02:57:50.000 We're about to break.

02:57:51.000 We only have like five.

02:57:51.000 Yeah, they're delusional.

02:57:54.000 We're about to break, but start with the ten points.

02:57:56.000 You gotcha.

02:57:57.000 Well, the ten points are just what we think are the most likely hot points and tripwires, and what we think officers should be considering, and soldiers, as the lines in the sand they will not cross.

02:58:08.000 Number one is, we will not obey any order to disarm the American people.

02:58:13.000 You know, that was the cause of the first American Revolution, and that was the final spark.

02:58:19.000 Lexington and Concord continue, number two.

02:58:21.000 Number two, we will not obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people.

02:58:24.000 And there again, the risk of assistance.

02:58:26.000 Warrantless searches were one of the causes of the American Revolution.

02:58:29.000 And number three is we will not obey orders to detain American citizens as unlawful enemy combatants or to subject them to military tribunal.

02:58:36.000 Stay there, we've got to come back in 70 seconds.

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02:59:59.000 He has spurred so many thoughts in my instincts.

03:00:13.000 You know, who our ancestors were, everything that I've added quite a bit today.

03:00:18.000 I want to have him back up in the next few weeks for a full hour.

03:00:21.000 Talk more about Oath Keepers and take your phone calls.

03:00:24.000 It's an amazing individual, Stuart Rose.

03:00:27.000 There's so many great people that, you know, are out there prominently fighting the globalists.

03:00:30.000 We just commend them.

03:00:31.000 Run through the other eight points in the five minutes we have left, sir.

03:00:34.000 You betcha.

03:00:36.000 The other ones are, we will not obey orders to impose martial law on a state or state of emergency on a state.

03:00:44.000 And five is we will not obey orders to invade, subjugate any state that asserts sovereignty.

03:00:49.000 That's kind of a reflection on the initiatives that have come out recently where states are standing up and saying, we're going to interpose ourselves between the federal government and our own people.

03:00:58.000 And that was an issue back in the 1770s because they would remove governors or legislatures and put in puppets.

03:01:04.000 But go ahead.

03:01:05.000 Exactly.

03:01:06.000 And number six is we will not obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

03:01:12.000 And that was first done in Boston at the time of the American Revolution.

03:01:15.000 As you just said, Boston was put under military dictatorship with General Gage, and then when the fighting started, the people of Boston were told, if you turn in your guns, we'll give you a safe passage out of the city.

03:01:27.000 And they turned their guns in, and then they were told they could not leave.

03:01:30.000 And they were kept there, and then it was turned into a concentration camp.

03:01:33.000 Until the militia showed up and kicked the British out of Boston.

03:01:38.000 So number seven is we will not obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

03:01:44.000 And we fight the history, an unfortunate history, of the Japanese internment here at home and also the history around the world of oppressive governments.

03:01:51.000 When they make war on their own people, they put them into camps, in part that's done to put women and children into camps so that the men who are fighting will turn themselves in on behalf of their children and women.

03:02:02.000 And the schools, public schools, admit they've been drilling to grab kids without asking on FEMA buses and then tell parents to report.

03:02:08.000 So tyranny does the same thing over and over again.

03:02:10.000 Continue.

03:02:11.000 Number eight, we will not obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S.

03:02:11.000 That's right.

03:02:16.000 soil against the American people to keep the peace or to maintain control.

03:02:20.000 And as you know, we've been hearing rumors of this for decades, but we're now hearing the same rumors once again from very credible sources that the Obama administration is even considering bringing in foreign troops.

03:02:33.000 No, no, no.

03:02:34.000 The agreements have been signed.

03:02:35.000 Toronto Star, Canadian-Mexican troops to be used, I-4 troops to be used.

03:02:39.000 Those are not rumors.

03:02:40.000 I have hundreds of mainstream articles if you'd like them.

03:02:43.000 Absolutely.

03:02:43.000 Email it to me.

03:02:45.000 Go ahead.

03:02:47.000 No, go right ahead.

03:02:48.000 No, no, it's just that, no, I mean, I've had Colonel Craig Roberts and others on who have had, like, their nephews at West Point, and, you know, they send in famous generals to tell them we're going to use foreign troops, but it's a good thing.

03:02:58.000 So, no, that is going on.

03:03:00.000 That's not a rumor.

03:03:01.000 Oh, I know.

03:03:02.000 I just like to hit my bets with people.

03:03:04.000 Well, I mean, it's true they're planning it.

03:03:06.000 The rumor is they may bring them in.

03:03:07.000 I see what you're saying.

03:03:08.000 Go ahead.

03:03:08.000 Right.

03:03:09.000 Exactly.

03:03:10.000 We will not obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

03:03:15.000 That's number nine.

03:03:16.000 That's in the public executive orders.

03:03:18.000 They're planning that.

03:03:18.000 So that's public.

03:03:20.000 Yep.

03:03:21.000 We will not obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, peaceably assemble, and petition their government for re-disagreement.

03:03:28.000 I mean, all these are basic.

03:03:29.000 They should be common sense, you know, no-brainers.

03:03:32.000 But, unfortunately, as you know, you have to remind people of the basics sometimes.

03:03:37.000 We can't take it for granted that someone's going to be thinking about this stuff ahead of time.

03:03:40.000 Look at Katrina. 1.00

03:03:42.000 You know, we're hearing now that a lot of that was caused because those guard troops and those officers hadn't thought about it ahead of time.

03:03:49.000 They're kind of like caught flat-footed when they were told to go do these things.

03:03:52.000 And so we want them to think about it in advance.

03:03:55.000 And we don't think it's going to go down the same way again.

03:03:56.000 That's right.

03:03:57.000 Iowa was a gun confiscation drill, that's admitted.

03:04:00.000 And then they sent out 22 MPs and a colonel to the Alabama shooting and now they're looking at charges of posse comitatus violation.

03:04:08.000 That's a good sign.

03:04:08.000 That's right.

03:04:09.000 It's a good sign that within the military there's still people who understand the necessary wall of separation between civil and military power and take it serious.

03:04:19.000 So we're very confident.

03:04:20.000 We feel very good about this.

03:04:22.000 One thing I do want to ask your listeners to do, we are going to be doing a tribute video to men who served.

03:04:30.000 And so we'd like to have them send us in photos of those who served when they were young.

03:04:37.000 All the old photos of them and their buddies and who they were and where they served.

03:04:41.000 Email them to us and we'll put them in our tribute video.

03:04:45.000 Stay there.

03:04:45.000 Absolutely.

03:04:46.000 I want to say one last point when we get back of how the enemy's going to attack your key operation.

03:04:51.000 Then we've got our next guest on the way.

03:04:52.000 We've got our next guest up.

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03:04:55.000 We'll get to our next guest.

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03:08:00.000 Big Brother. Mainstream media.

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03:08:11.000 You want answers?

03:08:13.000 Well, so does he.

03:08:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

03:08:19.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

03:08:24.000 We are back live.

03:08:25.000 We have 52 minutes left in transmission.

03:08:27.000 In just a few minutes, we're going to go directly to our guest who apologized and rescheduled twice last week.

03:08:31.000 So much has been happening.

03:08:32.000 He's written an amazing book.

03:08:33.000 I've already read most of it.

03:08:34.000 It's somewhere in here in the office.

03:08:36.000 Will somebody find me that New World Order book?

03:08:38.000 Corporatism and the Secret Government of the New World Order.

03:08:40.000 Talk to this professor here in just a moment.

03:08:42.000 Researcher.

03:08:44.000 But finishing up with Stuart Rhodes of Oath-keepers.blogspot.com.

03:08:49.000 Let me tell everybody here how they're going to attack what you're doing.

03:08:53.000 And it's with fear, again.

03:08:56.000 Intimidation of police and military that speak out.

03:08:58.000 But as more and more speak out, it's kind of like in those famous, you know, historical things where we have a church full of people in the Revolutionary War, and they'll say, who stands with us?

03:09:06.000 It takes about a minute, and then one guy steps forward, and then two step forward, and then everybody steps forward.

03:09:10.000 Same thing with the Alamo in 1836.

03:09:14.000 The enemy, and I bet if I Google this it's already out there, is going to say, don't sign up for this.

03:09:18.000 It's feds getting your name in the list and they're going to get you.

03:09:21.000 You have to be, I've always said this, out in the open, resisting the New World Order, speaking out, involved.

03:09:29.000 We are the majority.

03:09:30.000 We have to shatter That allusion that we're not the majority and we have to get past the mind game of fear.

03:09:38.000 And so I think it's a great idea whether it's anonymous, you write letters and post things or other people should start other Oath Keeper sites, more groups, lots of people.

03:09:46.000 But it's good, in my experience, just to go past the point of no return and to commit.

03:09:51.000 We're only saying we'll follow our oath.

03:09:54.000 I mean, that's how I got the city of Austin was saying they were going to vote against the Patriot Act.

03:09:58.000 Repudiation.

03:09:59.000 They were going to vote for the Patriot Act and keep it.

03:10:01.000 And I went in there and I gave them an impassioned, the most powerful speech I've probably ever given.

03:10:05.000 It was directly from my soul.

03:10:08.000 And I explained to them their children had no future.

03:10:09.000 I explained to them all we were doing had no future.

03:10:12.000 This continued.

03:10:14.000 That all they were doing was reaffirming the Bill of Rights Constitution.

03:10:17.000 All they were doing was saying they'd follow their oaths of office for the city council, the police, the firemen, the workers.

03:10:23.000 And That they had to do it, and they did vote to overthrow it, and people that were saying they were going to vote against voted for.

03:10:29.000 Because, I mean, I poured everything into literally trying to reach in and grab them.

03:10:33.000 You know, grab, you know, just literally brush up against their souls.

03:10:36.000 And I did, you know, literally bending my will with goodness towards them.

03:10:40.000 And believe me, that's what humanity is all about, folks.

03:10:42.000 You've got power you don't know you have.

03:10:44.000 It's a survival mechanism with the truth to literally be able to reach out to people.

03:10:48.000 When you're telling the truth, it's unstoppable.

03:10:50.000 The Globalists are going to pull a lot of other tricks, but I wanted to, just in closing, Stewart Rhodes, get your take on that enemy attack angle, and has that already happened?

03:10:59.000 Well, not yet, and here's what we're going to do.

03:11:00.000 We're going to do the same thing that Congressman Paul did with his campaign.

03:11:04.000 We're going to let the few, he's already got an officer in Houston who's volunteered to run our Facebook operation, and we encourage folks to start up meet-up groups.

03:11:12.000 I mean, the website, we'd like people to send their testimonials to the website so everyone can go there and read the testimonials, and we don't screen anything.

03:11:19.000 We post them, they send them, we post them.

03:11:21.000 And by decentralizing...

03:11:25.000 But by decentralizing with meetups, it turns the engine loose where no intelligence unit, no group in the government could track or trace or stop what we're doing or try dirty tricks on anybody because there's too many of us and agents that are assigned to try to infiltrate or cause problems will convert over to our side, I'd say 80% of the time.

03:11:45.000 And here's the other thing, we do encourage active duty to stay anonymous, unless their short timers are going to be getting out soon, or a few people standing up and making a convicted statement is fine, but for the most part, we do think it's probably wise for most of them just to put an anonymous statement.

03:11:45.000 Exactly.

03:12:00.000 Well, that's their decision.

03:12:02.000 I'm just saying most of this is anonymous.

03:12:04.000 I'm saying we need more, I think, to go all the way.

03:12:06.000 Because that's what's going to shatter the illusion of the establishment.

03:12:11.000 I agree, but it's up to them.

03:12:12.000 I want them to know they can do it anonymously.

03:12:15.000 They can go on there, any discussion, and just post an anonymous comment, and we'll turn it into an anonymous post.

03:12:21.000 And the veterans definitely should stand up and be counted, for sure.

03:12:25.000 Yeah, I mean, they'll charge machine gun nests and fly helicopters into hell, but they won't stand up when the country's imploding.

03:12:31.000 No, they are standing up.

03:12:32.000 Sir, we commend you.

03:12:34.000 Now, the website again is oath-keepers.blogspot.com, or just Google Oath Keepers, and folks will find it that way.

03:12:41.000 We'll talk to you in the near future.

03:12:42.000 Awesome, sir.

03:12:43.000 Thank you for spending time with us.

03:12:45.000 Really great hearing from you.

03:12:47.000 Okay, let's go to our next guest, lecturer and college instructor Jeffrey Grubb.

03:12:52.000 They wrote the book Corporatism the Secret Government of the New World Order and they do use a corporate model or finance oligarchs to control things.

03:13:01.000 That is the real government.

03:13:01.000 That's the elite.

03:13:02.000 And there's Catholics, there's Jews, there's Protestants, there's Hindus in it. 0.72

03:13:07.000 It's a system of global fiat currency control and corporate management system behind governments and through governments.

03:13:13.000 And his book is excellent, Corporatism, the Secret Government of the New World Order.

03:13:17.000 Jeffrey Grubb, an amazing book, a remarkable book.

03:13:20.000 And it's just very, very interesting.

03:13:22.000 And we're glad to have him on with us.

03:13:23.000 Sir, thanks for joining us.

03:13:25.000 Thanks very much, Alex.

03:13:26.000 I'm really happy to be on.

03:13:27.000 I just want to say I'm a big admirer, a big fan of yours.

03:13:29.000 What you're doing just gives me a lot of inspiration.

03:13:32.000 We live in a nation full of men, young men especially, who are confused being raised by these fake churches and TV and public schools and they get to be 23 years old, don't know what they're doing, don't know who they are.

03:13:44.000 I think what you're doing is helping them learn how to be men by the entire nation, I would say.

03:13:50.000 Yeah, we've never been given our true identity and people are unhappy until they find what the identity is.

03:13:55.000 Fight for freedom.

03:13:55.000 Fight for liberty.

03:13:56.000 Be informed.

03:13:57.000 Be involved.

03:13:57.000 Engage the world.

03:13:58.000 You're only a live watch.

03:14:00.000 Tell us about yourself.

03:14:00.000 Tell us about the book.

03:14:02.000 Okay, I think one of the reasons that you wanted me to come on was I just recently got fired from Purdue University for an incident that happened with a gun.

03:14:09.000 It was actually my second incident with a gun at the university.

03:14:14.000 Well, anyway, about me, my name is Jeffrey Grubb.

03:14:16.000 I am the author of a book, Corporatism, which is published by Progressive Press.

03:14:20.000 It's on Amazon.

03:14:22.000 And, uh, I'm 38, been an instructor in philosophy at a number of schools in northern Indiana, and I was fired from two of them.

03:14:31.000 Actually, the first time I was fired was from Indiana University for talking about vaccines and the New World Order and 9-11 and a bioethics class, and they sure didn't like that too much and got rid of me real quick.

03:14:40.000 I've got a lot of publications and I look pretty good on paper to the university, so I got another job real quick in the Purdue University system, where I've been getting my PhD.

03:14:48.000 I'm actually a lecturer.

03:14:49.000 It's a non-PhD teacher at a university.

03:14:56.000 I was teaching at Purdue North Central up in northern Indiana, which is a branch campus of Purdue University.

03:15:03.000 requested to teach in the prisons, because they have a little program where they teach inmates in the prisons.

03:15:09.000 And I was on my way to, I've been doing it for the last 18 months or so, and I was on my way to work, I think it was February 24th.

03:15:14.000 So rushing around like crazy, and I'm really busy writing books, taking care of my family, working two jobs, et cetera.

03:15:21.000 I forgot that I had my full-rug. - No, you're just like Jimmy Johnson, who twice has tried to take his handgun, 'cause he gets death threats and stuff, why couldn't he, onto the airplane, And they open, you know, they scan the briefcase and there's the gun.

03:15:34.000 So a similar thing happened to you.

03:15:36.000 Yeah, they got these anti, you know, the nation's full of these anti-Second Amendment zones.

03:15:39.000 And, you know, I tell people, I mean, I forgot to take my gun out of my school supplies because I had it on me because I was running errands in the morning before, during the morning before I went up to teach at the prison.

03:15:48.000 You know, of course, in the media, they won't report on, you know, depleted uranium and the burning of the rainforest and all this kind of stuff.

03:15:54.000 What they want to do is report on me, a professor.

03:15:56.000 Well, actually, I'm called a lecturer.

03:15:58.000 I forgot to take my gun out of my school supplies.

03:16:00.000 You know, it's in the Indianapolis Star and the Chicago Tribune.

03:16:03.000 And they get the story all wrong.

03:16:05.000 They say, you know, I tried to smuggle the gun and all this crazy stuff.

03:16:07.000 And it's just, it's just pretty amazing that that's what, it just shows that that's what the media is all about.

03:16:12.000 The mainstream media, that's why they're going to fail.

03:16:14.000 You know, the future is us, is this voice.

03:16:17.000 You know, against the new old order.

03:16:18.000 I think a lot of these universities are going to, you know, we're just beginning this economic crisis and it's, you know, a lot of universities when this economic crisis really gets going, you know, later this year and the next year, a lot of them are going to fail.

03:16:29.000 And I think eventually with American Revolution II starting here, we're going to get new universities or the ones that exist are going to be heavily modified.

03:16:35.000 And I think our information, our voice, I think is the future there.

03:16:39.000 So, I mean, I don't, you know, that I got fired from my job.

03:16:41.000 Really, I don't care.

03:16:42.000 I've been teaching for eight years, you know, all summer, a lot of classes.

03:16:45.000 I'm anxious to take some time off, and plus, I don't really know where I fit in these schools anymore.

03:16:49.000 I mean, these universities, they're not teaching empirical information.

03:16:53.000 I mean, it's hard for people to understand this if you're not really in the university system paying attention to what's going on.

03:16:57.000 But you don't get in a class and sit there and tell your students, okay, I got this scientific article from this top journal and this scientific article from this top journal.

03:17:06.000 We're going to just debate these and we're going to get to the bottom of things and we're going to be empirical researchers.

03:17:10.000 That almost never happens.

03:17:12.000 No, they teach you the German 200-year-old model of not learning how to think and learning how magical the world is and how things connect. 0.91

03:17:19.000 It's all just by rote regurgitating information.

03:17:24.000 Well, they got these agendas, like when I was teaching bioethics at Indiana University Northwest, which I was fired from, I was teaching, they wanted me to teach this bioethics class, and I said, okay, that sounds great, I'd love to, but I didn't have a whole lot of background in it, but I said I'll do it because I could easily... And it was really a eugenics class they wanted to teach you.

03:17:40.000 Yeah, yeah, they wanted me to teach eugenics, which, you know, it doesn't really... By the way, we've never talked before, I just knew that, because that's what they teach, but go ahead.

03:17:48.000 Yeah, no, right.

03:17:49.000 Well, they wanted me to teach about euthanasia and all this stuff.

03:17:51.000 And I said, you know, it's not really relevant.

03:17:53.000 You know, I'm wasting the students' money, not really teaching them relevant information.

03:17:56.000 So what I did is I just, on my own, got rid of that section of the classroom.

03:17:59.000 Yeah, it's brainwashing! 0.93

03:18:01.000 You pay $30,000 a year or whatever to go be brainwashed and taught a bunch of propaganda instead of information.

03:18:07.000 Go ahead.

03:18:07.000 Yeah, it's absolutely unbelievable that people don't just wake up and say, what am I doing here?

03:18:12.000 I mean, I take a calculus class.

03:18:14.000 We really only learn about four concepts the whole semester, and I never use any of this stuff ever again.

03:18:18.000 That's why I dropped out of college.

03:18:19.000 I mean, it was like, I'd go to math class.

03:18:22.000 It'd be how we've got to get rid of most of the population. 0.99

03:18:24.000 Guns are bad. 0.92

03:18:25.000 I'd go to, you know, philosophy class.

03:18:27.000 It was all New World Order. 0.87

03:18:28.000 I'd go to Texas history.

03:18:29.000 It'd all be New World Order.

03:18:31.000 history.

03:18:31.000 I'd go to U.S.

03:18:32.000 It'd all be New World Order.

03:18:33.000 It didn't matter what class.

03:18:34.000 Art class would be New World Order.

03:18:36.000 I mean, just everywhere.

03:18:36.000 It's brainwashing.

03:18:38.000 Yeah, people don't pick up on this because they do it in a hidden way.

03:18:41.000 Some classes won't talk about eugenics, so what they'll do is talk about global warming.

03:18:45.000 It'll act like everybody's in agreement and you get the two students in the back who question it and then all the rest of the students gang up against them.

03:18:52.000 People don't know.

03:18:54.000 I mean, brainwashing in the universities is really... They're re-education camps.

03:18:58.000 They're re-education camps.

03:18:59.000 Military, same thing.

03:19:00.000 Shaved heads, sleep deprivation. 0.97

03:19:01.000 And this is what people don't understand.

03:19:03.000 This is all 200 years old.

03:19:04.000 It all comes out of Germany and England. 0.96

03:19:06.000 And before education wasn't like this... I mean, everything you're saying is true, just because I've researched it myself.

03:19:11.000 That's what's great about talking to somebody else who's researching this with your perspective, but... We're going to come back at more into your book, and I'm going to try to shut up and get into the corporatism, the secret government of the New World Order.

03:19:21.000 It's published by Webster Tarpley's publisher.

03:19:23.000 I thought I would add so give you an idea of the caliber of the material and progressive press so we really appreciate having you on the show with us we're gonna come right back to you after this break but Yeah, I mean, you pay after 12 years of your children being brainwashed at government schools to send them to another re-education camp.

03:19:41.000 And folks, when I say re-education camp, they are re-education camps.

03:19:45.000 I mean, re-education, Soviet Nazi system, that is what goes on at most universities. 0.78

03:19:50.000 You got some good professors and teachers who aren't like that, but overall, it is a brainwashing mess.

03:19:57.000 I mean, they tried to recruit my dad into eugenics when he went to UT in the 60s.

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03:21:01.000 In the New World Order's war against humanity, Barack Obama is the tip of the spear.

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03:21:13.000 The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.

03:21:20.000 Well, Obama's already fudging.

03:21:22.000 He's fudged since day one of this election.

03:21:24.000 If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.

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03:24:44.000 All right, let's go back to our guest, Jeffrey Grubb.

03:24:47.000 Jeffrey, continue.

03:24:48.000 Let's get into your book, Corporatism, The Secret Government of the New World Order.

03:24:54.000 Yeah, that book was written from 2003 to 2007.

03:24:58.000 When 9-11 happened, I was deep in my academic studies, getting my master's degree, and I really didn't even pay attention.

03:25:03.000 I actually tried as best as I could to ignore all politics.

03:25:07.000 Ignore everything about the world.

03:25:08.000 I just thought it was a complete joke.

03:25:09.000 I didn't want to pay attention.

03:25:10.000 I just wanted to do my academic work.

03:25:11.000 But then 2003 happened, March 20th.

03:25:15.000 I forgot exactly, maybe the 19th when we invaded Iraq.

03:25:18.000 I was sitting there in Applebee's with my father having a happy little lunch, watching people of Baghdad get blown to bits. 1.00

03:25:23.000 And that completely shocked me unbelievably.

03:25:26.000 And from that point on, I've been distracted.

03:25:28.000 My academic work has been distracted.

03:25:30.000 All I can really focus on is what exactly is going on in the world.

03:25:33.000 And the book Corporatism is my process of trying to figure out what's going on in the world.

03:25:38.000 And it took me four years to write.

03:25:39.000 I basically researched it, you know, a hundred hours a week or more it took to get that book to be completed.

03:25:45.000 Of course, you're quoted in the book about 30 times, Alex.

03:25:47.000 I've been listening to you ever since 2003.

03:25:49.000 And, you know, I've been listening to... I mean, where else am I going to get this information?

03:25:54.000 You know, I mean, you guys report all this stuff.

03:25:55.000 I mean, nobody... it's really hard to find any really good information.

03:25:59.000 Um, but the book is, uh, I think, there's only one problem, I think, with it, you know, like you said the other day about the Obama deception, you, you know, after you finish something, you find out things you wish you added later.

03:26:08.000 There's a couple things I wish I added later, but the book basically, to sum it up, is about how the secret government works.

03:26:14.000 The secret government is Basically invisible.

03:26:17.000 I mean, people like Rockefeller and stuff are getting close to the core of it.

03:26:21.000 But, you know, the people we see on TV, what I call the visible government, who are showing these people on TV, you know, Obama.

03:26:28.000 You remember the election was happening and we were basically told who to vote for.

03:26:31.000 The public didn't even know who Ron Paul was until late in the game.

03:26:34.000 Yeah, they spent billions manufacturing this guy.

03:26:37.000 That's prima facie evidence he's New World Order.

03:26:39.000 Then all his advisors, now the policies, now the betrayals.

03:26:42.000 I mean, you know, he comes out and says, I am against these bailouts and these bonuses.

03:26:47.000 I'm fighting it.

03:26:48.000 And it turns out he specifically signed an executive order to allow it and had Dodd put it in the law.

03:26:54.000 And that's now mainstream news.

03:26:56.000 Well, I knew that months ago.

03:26:57.000 We put it in the Obama Deception that was just released.

03:27:00.000 But that's now mainstream news today.

03:27:02.000 Yeah, Obama's specifically doing the neocon agenda where you say one thing and you purposely say exactly the opposite of what you're implementing.

03:27:11.000 So he'll say, I'm against AIG and the banks, and go on the TV and scold them and stuff, but then he's showing the Obama deception.

03:27:18.000 He's the guy behind the whole thing as far as the puppet government goes.

03:27:23.000 But then behind the puppet government, the book discusses is there's the New World Order, which is basically corporate, and it's basically a satanic government.

03:27:31.000 It's largely invisible and it's bent on setting up a world of concentration camps.

03:27:35.000 That's the last chapter of the book.

03:27:37.000 And basically torturing and killing people for some sort of enjoyment or pleasure that they have. 0.87

03:27:44.000 It's some sort of religion.

03:27:45.000 So that's the summation of your research, which is true.

03:27:48.000 You can be an atheist and come to that realization.

03:27:50.000 People are like, I don't believe in that.

03:27:52.000 I'm an atheist or I'm an agnostic.

03:27:53.000 Point is, the globalists believe in it.

03:27:55.000 I mean, they are into this stuff.

03:27:57.000 They are out of their minds.

03:27:59.000 Actually, Alex, I used to be an atheist.

03:28:00.000 I even published an academic article in a top philosophy journal called Sophia on trying to prove that God didn't exist.

03:28:08.000 Way back deep into the 90s, I was so angry with my upbringing and the horrible church that I was raised in, I just became this fiery, bitter atheist.

03:28:15.000 But I read a book in the last few years called Beginning Sacred Design by Bonnie Gaunt.

03:28:20.000 Pretty much, I can't believe that nobody's talking about this information in the churches or on TV.

03:28:25.000 That's why a lot of top scientists who have been atheists, when they finally look at DNA under electron microscopes and the layers and how there's, you know, in there, they're like, my God, this is designed.

03:28:36.000 I mean, this just didn't come out of a cabbage patch.

03:28:39.000 It's everywhere.

03:28:40.000 Look at the solar system.

03:28:41.000 When you look at the numbers of the solar system, the diameter of the sun, moon, earth, the ratios of all these diameters... Where we had to be in the galaxy, where we have to be... Yeah, go through that.

03:28:50.000 Where we had to be in the galaxy, it's all perfect.

03:28:52.000 Well, I mean, take Newgrange up in Ireland, that ancient temple, about 2000 B.C., it's estimated to have been created.

03:28:59.000 The sun, I think it's the winter solstice, there's one beam of light that channels down the center, central column of the middle of the temple, because these people knew so much about the sun back then, so they designed it so that right at the winter solstice, the sun, you know, just at that one day, you'd have a beam of light that went down, because the temple was oriented to the sky.

03:29:19.000 Now the thing that happens is at night, the full moon does the exact same thing.

03:29:22.000 Now what does that tell you?

03:29:23.000 That tells you that the sun and the moon at those specifically, those very precise dates are traveling exactly the same trajectory through the sky without any deviation.

03:29:34.000 Now, that can't be a coincidence.

03:29:37.000 That's unbelievable.

03:29:38.000 I could name 20 of those coincidences.

03:29:40.000 Let's do it.

03:29:41.000 No, let's do it if you want.

03:29:41.000 Let me come back.

03:29:42.000 Let's get into the book and a lot more with our guest, folks.

03:29:45.000 The book is Corporatism, the Secret Government of the New World Order.

03:29:48.000 Jeffrey Grubb, I suggest you get it today.

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03:33:55.000 Corporatism, the secret government of the New World Order, but I want to, he'll be on hold a few minutes.

03:33:59.000 I want to bring Ted Anderson up right now because every time gold goes down, and the graph goes like this, you know, it's the last five years going up, but every time it dips, Ted buys it when it's low, and then he doesn't raise the price to the current rate.

03:34:13.000 He passes it on to you.

03:34:15.000 Because Ted understands psychology.

03:34:16.000 For some reason, people buy when it's high.

03:34:18.000 I buy when it's low.

03:34:20.000 Well, he passes that on.

03:34:21.000 You're buying it at the low price when it's gone up.

03:34:23.000 It went up $30 yesterday.

03:34:24.000 It's gone up like $15 today.

03:34:25.000 Skyrocketing back upwards.

03:34:27.000 I don't know what the future holds, but I know gold and silver is real.

03:34:31.000 I know they're devaluing the dollar.

03:34:32.000 They're openly talking about abandoning the dollar.

03:34:34.000 If that happens, you know, I got articles here, in fact, I meant to get to.

03:34:39.000 $750 billion green investment could revive economy, UN says.

03:34:43.000 They're calling for a world tax on all fuel.

03:34:45.000 And you think $750 billion is big?

03:34:47.000 That's just how they're going to start.

03:34:48.000 The income tax started at 1%.

03:34:49.000 It wasn't widely adopted until the 50s, though they passed it in 1913.

03:34:55.000 I mean, this is insane, the stuff.

03:34:56.000 I mean, here's London Telegraph, where they're talking about yesterday, issuing their own global super currency, and then another article said, oh, they're already doing it.

03:35:04.000 So, Ted Anderson, you've got silver, you've got gold at insane deals.

03:35:09.000 Out of the gates, because we always run out of time, give folks the group of coins you're offering today at the insane price of Would you buy this when it was down by $70?

03:35:18.000 Yeah, right.

03:35:18.000 When it was down?

03:35:20.000 Alex, right when the market dipped there, I took advantage of those low prices and now we have gold trading around $9.60, which is up again today.

03:35:28.000 That news that the Fed's going in there and buying U.S. 0.83

03:35:31.000 Treasuries is just driving gold up through the roof.

03:35:34.000 That means the private bankers are selling themselves Treasuries taxpayer backed.

03:35:39.000 The foreigners aren't buying enough of it to keep us afloat and they're moving away fast. 1.00

03:35:44.000 If folks don't know what that means, why don't you tell them, Ted?

03:35:46.000 Well, it just means that we're going to see inflation.

03:35:48.000 I mean, you think you've had an assault on your stocks and bonds and your 401k plans and your IRAs now.

03:35:55.000 Just wait until inflation starts coming.

03:35:57.000 Everybody knows now that we're looking at some huge inflation in the future here.

03:36:02.000 They just said yesterday, record inflation.

03:36:04.000 Record inflation in the last 20 years just came in.

03:36:07.000 Yeah, that's what everybody's pointing at right now, because when the Federal Reserve System buys U.S.

03:36:11.000 government treasuries, it means they're printing money.

03:36:14.000 That's what it means.

03:36:15.000 And folks, inflation means the dollars are worth less. 0.96

03:36:20.000 I know this sounds stupid, but some people are elementary. 0.91

03:36:22.000 I'm going to be simple here. 0.97

03:36:24.000 When there's inflation, commodities, especially those that have true value as currency, gold and silver, historically only go up.

03:36:32.000 It's the most active time in trading for gold and silver that you can ever hope for.

03:36:36.000 I mean, back in 1980, gold went from $40 an ounce to $800 an ounce in about six years.

03:36:43.000 And now we're starting at a level of about $300.

03:36:45.000 And if the same movement comes along, we're going to be looking at $4,000, $5,000, maybe even $6,000 gold.

03:36:52.000 And this is the answers that our government and the Federal Reserve System has for us.

03:36:57.000 And you're right, the UN is trying to get away from using the United States currency as a world reserve currency.

03:37:03.000 That's going to kill us.

03:37:04.000 We have to have foreigners buying our debt in order to survive.

03:37:08.000 This is a slow slide into the depression, but if the dollar gets dumped, which is openly being discussed, it will be an overnight crash.

03:37:17.000 Well, Alex, when I was up on the air just at the very end of the show yesterday, I told you I had some deals in here.

03:37:23.000 I have francs still.

03:37:24.000 Same price I had them yesterday, even though gold was up again so much today.

03:37:28.000 I have francs still from the time when gold was sitting here at its bottom.

03:37:32.000 At $218, I've got British sovereigns at $272.

03:37:36.000 Silver's up.

03:37:36.000 I still have the Franklin halves at $869 apiece, or $173 per roll at $20.

03:37:43.000 And I have some of the U.S.

03:37:45.000 Eagles and some of the, you know, various different coins that you can find in the gold market.

03:37:49.000 You're going to have to ask for those because I just don't have enough quantities to go out.

03:37:52.000 We have $20 gold pieces and tens.

03:37:55.000 Just call 1-800-686-2237 and take advantage of this.

03:38:00.000 The market is going up right now, and it will continue to go up as the Fed steps in and inflates away.

03:38:06.000 They're trying to deficit spend our way out of our problems.

03:38:11.000 And explain to people what's going on.

03:38:14.000 You have gold.

03:38:14.000 Is it $60 or $70 under what it's currently selling?

03:38:18.000 Well, that's the thing, Alex.

03:38:19.000 It was, what, around $890 when it hit its low here last time?

03:38:22.000 So that's a $70 under buy you made.

03:38:25.000 You're passing those savings on.

03:38:27.000 You cannot beat this deal.

03:38:28.000 Tell them the coin's dead.

03:38:29.000 Yeah, again, the Frank coin right now is at $218.

03:38:33.000 The Sovereign coin right now is at $272.

03:38:36.000 The Franklin half is right now at $8.69.

03:38:41.000 That's a silver coin.

03:38:42.000 I mean, people should be buying gold and silver right now.

03:38:45.000 Inflation is going to push this stuff up through the roof.

03:38:48.000 Yeah, the silver coin is $8.80-something cents.

03:38:52.000 I mean, silver dollars, if you can find them, are over $20 a piece, Ted.

03:38:55.000 I know.

03:38:55.000 They've been trading for more than $20 here for almost the last year.

03:39:00.000 Every now and then you're lucky to get something for $18.

03:39:03.000 You know, and here this thing is $8.69.

03:39:04.000 I mean, it is really a good buy.

03:39:05.000 It is.

03:39:05.000 800-686-2237.

03:39:05.000 $169.

03:39:05.000 I mean, it is really a good buy.

03:39:07.000 It is.

03:39:09.000 800-686-2237-1800.

03:39:13.000 Give them the number, folks.

03:39:16.000 Yeah, 1-800-686-2237.

03:39:18.000 Again, it's 1-800-686-2237.

03:39:22.000 Man, pull your head out of the sand.

03:39:24.000 Get as much gold and silver as you can at this time.

03:39:26.000 I can't say that enough.

03:39:28.000 It's not just... 1-800-686-237.

03:39:31.000 Did you hear that state police officer who broke the MIAC report here on last hour?

03:39:35.000 And he said, he said, Alex, you told me to get out of the stock market two and a half years ago.

03:39:38.000 At the top, I did it.

03:39:40.000 You told me to get out of my house two and a half years ago.

03:39:42.000 I did it.

03:39:42.000 I've made hundreds of thousands of dollars.

03:39:44.000 Everybody else, you know, is losing their butt in his state police office. 0.97

03:39:47.000 He's senior. 0.98

03:39:49.000 And he told them all then, and they laughed.

03:39:50.000 Now they're listening.

03:39:51.000 You know, told them to get into gold.

03:39:52.000 They did.

03:39:53.000 Did well.

03:39:54.000 Is gold perfect?

03:39:55.000 The globalists can manipulate things, but they can't do it for long.

03:39:58.000 And historically, there is not a better investment than gold and silver.

03:40:02.000 You are insane if you don't convert a lot of your liquid cash or stocks and bonds into gold and silver.

03:40:08.000 I can't say it better than that, Alex.

03:40:10.000 At this time, if you're sitting in annuities, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, you have 401ks, IRAs, you should be calling us at 1-800-686-2237.

03:40:18.000 The only excuse is that you're out of paper currency, you don't have any more.

03:40:24.000 I just don't, I can't say it enough.

03:40:26.000 The United States dollar is under attack.

03:40:28.000 And you better do something about it.

03:40:30.000 And if you can't see the tidal wave coming, you're going to get drowned.

03:40:33.000 800-686-237.

03:40:34.000 And when I was first telling folks to get gold, it was $280, $267 an ounce, and it's been above $1,000.

03:40:43.000 It's going back that way now.

03:40:45.000 And Ted's selling it to you at the $890 level.

03:40:47.000 So, I mean, if you do the math, he's selling it at the $890 level.

03:40:50.000 You know, he has his tiny markup in there and things.

03:40:52.000 He's selling it to you at the $890 level when it's $960.

03:40:56.000 800-686-2237.

03:40:57.000 Ted, thanks for talking to us.

03:41:00.000 The Brokers will be there until midnight.

03:41:01.000 Yeah, well, thanks for putting such a great show on.

03:41:03.000 I'll talk to you later.

03:41:05.000 What do you think about Ron Paul and they're about to threaten to sue?

03:41:05.000 Thank you, Ted.

03:41:08.000 They're writing a letter.

03:41:09.000 They're threatening to sue Missouri if they don't retract all that slander in that MIAC report.

03:41:15.000 I know.

03:41:15.000 I listen to that part of your show and I tell you what, it makes my blood pressure go up because I'm going to be down there in Missouri with Ron Paul uh... next friday and saturday and sunday and i and i gotta tell ya there isn't a better statesman out there i can't believe That anybody would stand and let something like this happen.

03:41:32.000 Well, it's because they're getting desperate.

03:41:33.000 800-686-237.

03:41:33.000 Thank you, Ted.

03:41:36.000 Yeah, thanks a lot.

03:41:37.000 Alright, there goes Ted Anderson on this for about six, seven minutes.

03:41:39.000 Let's go back to Jeffrey Grubb.

03:41:40.000 Jeffrey, please continue with your research of how the real government, the shadow government, works in your book, Corporatism, the Secret Government of the New World Order, available from ProgressivePress.com.

03:41:51.000 ProgressivePress.com.

03:41:52.000 Go ahead.

03:41:53.000 Okay, and before I end the show, Alex, I've got to read you a Samuel Adams quote about the Second Amendment.

03:41:59.000 An Al-Qaeda quote?

03:42:00.000 Oh, you're going to mention a terrorist on my show?

03:42:02.000 Okay, go ahead, I guess.

03:42:04.000 Can I read that right now?

03:42:05.000 Read the terrorist, yes.

03:42:06.000 Okay, this is specifically in reference to, you know, Obama saying, you know, all these government people saying, you know, you can own a gun, but we just want to restrict it, blah, blah, blah.

03:42:17.000 They want to take control over and certify.

03:42:19.000 You know, it's like a certification.

03:42:20.000 You know, when you have a certification over something, like organic food or whatever, the government can come in and control it, basically.

03:42:25.000 Turns a right into a privilege.

03:42:27.000 Yeah, go ahead.

03:42:28.000 Yeah.

03:42:28.000 So here's Samuel Adams.

03:42:30.000 Among the natural rights of the colonists are these.

03:42:33.000 First, a right to life.

03:42:35.000 Second, a right to liberty.

03:42:37.000 Thirdly, to property, together with the right to support and defend them, if you were to defend them, in the best manner they can.

03:42:44.000 The key to that quote is the best manner they can.

03:42:46.000 Now, what that means is, if it's best for us to defend our property and pursuit of happiness with an AR-15, Which of course uses 223 most of the time and that's what we should, that's specifically what we should use according to this founding, this key founding father.

03:43:01.000 So when somebody like Obama says that, oh no we want to restrict something like 223 ammo, they're breaking the law.

03:43:07.000 The people should act accordingly to what they're doing and basically not cooperate.

03:43:12.000 We should perform civil disobedience against this administration in every way. 0.68

03:43:17.000 That, uh, which is what I think is the best way to, uh, eliminate these people.

03:43:22.000 But that comes from, I'm reading out of a book called The Second Amendment by David Barton.

03:43:25.000 That's page 24, and then he's got the site, the reference in there, exactly where it isn't.

03:43:29.000 No, I know that quote.

03:43:30.000 I know it well.

03:43:31.000 Your website, by the way, is abstractadam.com.

03:43:35.000 Abstractadam.com.

03:43:36.000 Please continue.

03:43:37.000 Yeah, that website is mostly just my academic work.

03:43:39.000 There's probably not a whole lot that, um, there's probably not what the listeners are thinking.

03:43:43.000 It's just basically an academic site.

03:43:45.000 But I continue on.

03:43:46.000 Let me tell you another story about what happened at Purdue North Central.

03:43:50.000 I think you'll really like this one.

03:43:51.000 This is different than the story of trying to forget to take my gun out of my stuff when I entered the prison that I was teaching at.

03:43:57.000 But this happened last summer.

03:43:58.000 I was teaching ethics class.

03:44:01.000 And, you know, these ethics classes in college, you know, it's just a lot of fluff.

03:44:04.000 You can get the concepts over pretty easily.

03:44:06.000 You've got to fill it in with interesting concepts in the meantime.

03:44:08.000 So, of course, I'm bringing up the Second Amendment all the time.

03:44:10.000 But a couple days into the class, we were talking about evolution before that.

03:44:13.000 And I was talking about how it's just a theory and, you know, really, a lot of the research they say out there that it proves evolution is just a joke.

03:44:21.000 You know, these four million year old bones, how do we know those are connected to our lineage?

03:44:25.000 And you know, they say that there's all this evidence in the junk DNA of the retroviruses to show that we've got the exact same pattern.

03:44:33.000 Well, I want to be clear about this.

03:44:35.000 The way the phony churches have made the debate, I think is unscientific too and not in the Bible.

03:44:41.000 You know, claiming things are however many years old.

03:44:44.000 I mean, clearly, I believe we have an old earth.

03:44:46.000 You know, the Bible talks about creations before that.

03:44:48.000 Regardless of that, they try to set All religion or spirituality against science when the science is showing that there is a master builder, but go ahead.

03:45:00.000 Yeah, we can go look at a fossil record.

03:45:02.000 It seems like there's something, you know, step-by-step going on through the millions of years.

03:45:05.000 The problem is, it's trying to say that we come from apes.

03:45:07.000 That's where the evidence is lacking.

03:45:08.000 Yeah, these are separate arms.

03:45:10.000 These are separate arms of development.

03:45:12.000 You know, you don't have a fish turning into a human, or you don't have a chimpanzee turning into a human.

03:45:17.000 These are separate, divergent.

03:45:19.000 They have the continual fossil record that doesn't have, you know, these connections.

03:45:25.000 There's these massive jumps, like overnight.

03:45:28.000 Go ahead.

03:45:29.000 Yeah, exactly.

03:45:30.000 It's called punctuated equilibrium.

03:45:31.000 This gradual evolution that Darwin put forth doesn't really exist in the fossil record.

03:45:34.000 That's actually pretty mainstream among biologists and stuff these days.

03:45:38.000 But anyways, I was discussing that with students, and I was trying to be empirical as I possibly could, bringing up both sides of the story and saying, you know, I don't really know, and just the evidence for us coming from chimps is not there.

03:45:48.000 So I had a couple students just absolutely... I mean, I could just feel their anger.

03:45:53.000 From the front of the room, they were just exclaiming.

03:45:55.000 You were committing heresy against the eugenicist religion.

03:45:59.000 Exactly. 0.98

03:45:59.000 I was basically making it look like humans were not stupid animals, but were actually powerful spiritual creatures by doing that, which goes against that whole eugenics program. 0.98

03:46:08.000 So then the next class, you know, to fill in time, we brought up some controversial issues to illustrate the concepts and philosophical ethics. 0.94

03:46:15.000 And those were the Second Amendment, of course.

03:46:17.000 I'm always itching to bring up the Second Amendment.

03:46:18.000 It's my favorite.

03:46:20.000 My favorite thing in the world, besides reading, is guns.

03:46:22.000 I mean, just the freedom that carrying a gun gives you, as Thomas Jefferson said.

03:46:25.000 It's just second to none, that feeling.

03:46:28.000 But anyways, so I started talking.

03:46:32.000 I had this incredible handout for the students.

03:46:34.000 I've got it right in front of me here.

03:46:35.000 It's called A Lesson in the Second Amendment.

03:46:36.000 Just incredibly well documented, you know, about 100 footnotes on the thing and so forth.

03:46:41.000 And we were just going through it, and all of a sudden, okay, that lasted about 40 minutes, and then we moved on to the next topic in the class, and then all of a sudden there's a bunch of police outside the classroom door, and I'm like, okay, that's strange, but I just kept teaching.

03:46:53.000 And all of a sudden, a guy in plainclothes motions for me to come out of the room, and I get out there, and there's all these cops out in the hallway, and they said, Uh, we got a phone call that you're carrying a gun in your pocket, which of course I wasn't, because I've been too afraid to, of course, carry a gun.

03:47:07.000 It's a felony if you, it's an anti-Second Amendment.

03:47:09.000 So just talking about the Second Amendment, police came.

03:47:12.000 It was a, ahhh!

03:47:13.000 Well, it turns out, it turns out I found out from other students that that student, Brad, one of the students that was so angry at me for just simply questioning and using empirical evidence to question the theory of monkeys turning into humans, Through Evolution, one of them called their mother, texted their mother and said I had a gun in my pocket.

03:47:32.000 And then the police came.

03:47:33.000 So it was basically a student did that because they were just so angry.

03:47:37.000 Well, that's what these fake intellectuals do, is they try to shut down free speech by false reports, whatever they can, because it just... I mean, if your information is so powerful and so true, you should want to defend it.

03:47:50.000 It's kind of like, you know, tens of thousands of people they've grabbed over the years and say they can't have court trials with the Enemy Combatants Act and the Military Commissions Act.

03:47:59.000 If these are really terrorists and we've got proof, let's see it!

03:48:03.000 They always want to do everything they do in secret.

03:48:05.000 And they don't want to allow any debate.

03:48:07.000 Well, the whole war on terror and Al-Qaeda and everything, if people look closely, there's no evidence for anything.

03:48:14.000 I mean, if I see a videotape on TV or something like that, strictly speaking, in the scientific sense, not evidence.

03:48:20.000 That's nothing, because I mean... Well, it's turned out those videos are old videos re-edited, that's been confirmed, and fake videos.

03:48:27.000 I mean, they've put the classic Morph computer head up, you know, with the one with him in the room.

03:48:32.000 I mean, they put out admitted fake videos.

03:48:35.000 Yeah, I mean, the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park sure did look real, I mean, but of course they're fake.

03:48:39.000 Well, you saw Forrest Gump shake hands with Kennedy.

03:48:42.000 Exactly, yeah, good one.

03:48:47.000 I forgot what I was going to say.

03:48:50.000 I'm good at that.

03:48:51.000 You were going through, they came after you for having supposedly a gun.

03:48:54.000 You didn't have one.

03:48:55.000 How did that happen?

03:48:56.000 Oh yeah, we were talking about the war on terror.

03:49:00.000 Americans are trained to just believe whatever they want. 0.93

03:49:02.000 You know, not really.

03:49:03.000 Just go look for evidence that the real, if you really want to get real information about the world, that is not about the spiritual domain, but about the world, you need to use your senses.

03:49:10.000 That's what science is based on.

03:49:11.000 But people don't know to do that.

03:49:12.000 So then they can put on TV all this stuff about how, you know, there's this boogeyman here, this boogeyman there.

03:49:17.000 Nobody asks for the verification for the evidence.

03:49:19.000 People just believe it.

03:49:20.000 And then you get this whole apparatus of society, basically everybody telling each other the lie.

03:49:25.000 That's out of Orwell, you know, everybody tells each other the lie and nobody knows the truth.

03:49:28.000 So you see it on TV, and then you go to work and talk about what was on TV, and you talk about it at church, and you talk about it at...

03:49:35.000 Yeah, and it's just always a lie, lie, lie, lie.

03:49:37.000 And then when somebody comes along and says, oh, hey, Diet Coke isn't healthy.

03:49:40.000 It has aspartame.

03:49:41.000 Everybody says, I can't believe that.

03:49:42.000 Nobody believes that. 1.00

03:49:43.000 You're crazy. 1.00

03:49:44.000 Everybody drinks it. 0.99

03:49:45.000 It could never be.

03:49:46.000 And now they've gotten to the point of when we prove mercury's in the food and the shots, they go, OK, mercury's good.

03:49:52.000 And we prove melamine's in the formula.

03:49:54.000 And they go, OK, we've always said it's deadly.

03:49:56.000 It's good for you.

03:49:57.000 Mercury, melamine, lead, it's all good now.

03:49:59.000 Yeah, but the denial is just so unbelievable, just like that police officer you had on last, uh, an hour or whatever ago.

03:50:05.000 I've had the same thing happen to me when I started listening to you.

03:50:07.000 I got out of stocks, I dumped my house, got into gold, did all the stuff you were saying, and I've even made members of my family tremendous amounts of money, but they'll still say, oh, you were just lucky, or it was just a coincidence, or blah, you know, it was like 20, I'm like, 20 coincidences, or just getting lucky.

03:50:21.000 Well, that's what they say about all the predictions we make, or what.

03:50:25.000 You know, the guest said about oil prices that for the next year at least they were going to drop down to below 50.

03:50:31.000 Lindsey Williams, it just, oh, Alex, you guessed they were going to announce a new bank of the world where we'd pay our carbon taxes.

03:50:39.000 Yeah, it's all over the news now, but you guessed that five years ago.

03:50:42.000 Yeah, that's exactly what people are saying to me, too.

03:50:45.000 Oh, well, they like being slaves.

03:50:49.000 But, uh, you know, I always say, listening to this show is very profitable if you take our advice.

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03:55:42.000 Okay, we've got about three and a half, four minutes left, sir.

03:55:44.000 You've got the final word on any other issues you'd like to cover.

03:55:48.000 Okay, that's great, because I got something big I want to say.

03:55:50.000 I've been wanting to call into your show for a couple months to say this.

03:55:54.000 I think you're on to this, Alex, and probably a lot of listeners are too, but I just want to say that I think that it's beyond a shadow of a doubt to me that the New World Order is now using our movement to carry out their agenda.

03:56:04.000 I heard Chuck Baldwin in Hour One talking about Rush Limbaugh.

03:56:08.000 He's talking about the Missouri issues and stuff.

03:56:11.000 And also Glenn Beck is our friend and having Ron Paul all the time.

03:56:14.000 These people have been the most unwavering traitors, all acting in unison for, what, decades?

03:56:21.000 And now all of a sudden they're disclosing all this information.

03:56:24.000 I don't buy it for one second.

03:56:25.000 There's a lot of other reasons why I don't buy it either.

03:56:27.000 I think that what the New World Order is doing, this stuff's getting too big.

03:56:31.000 You're getting too big.

03:56:32.000 Everybody's waking up.

03:56:34.000 So what they're going to do is basically use the movement to carry out their ends.

03:56:38.000 I mean, I think we're going to try to co-opt to get people's confidence.

03:56:43.000 But be specific.

03:56:44.000 What are you hitting at here?

03:56:46.000 Well, I think, I mean, look, they're going to try to ban gardening.

03:56:48.000 I mean, that reminds me of in the book Robin Hood when they banned hunting deer.

03:56:52.000 Oh, you're saying they want to cause a revolution?

03:56:54.000 Yeah, they want riots.

03:56:56.000 They want to burn this place down.

03:56:57.000 Oh, I agree with you, but we need to expose that as well.

03:57:01.000 That's what I mean.

03:57:02.000 I mean, they're going to put in their own guys for this revolution.

03:57:06.000 And they're going to have their other guys waiting on the other side after they destroy the old world to set up their new world that they want.

03:57:12.000 I mean, think about it.

03:57:13.000 They're doing crazy things.

03:57:15.000 All this foreclosure and inflation and homelessness and gun laws and banning gardening.

03:57:21.000 People can't pay these taxes.

03:57:22.000 They're driving people into revolution.

03:57:24.000 I mean, they're stepping it up unbelievably.

03:57:26.000 It just has to be the case that they're trying to make everybody go crazy.

03:57:30.000 And if they're doing that, then that's part of their agenda.

03:57:33.000 But the ring, as our earlier guest said that they're after, is they want to cause the rebellion, have it be violent, have the military and police against the people.

03:57:42.000 That's going to backfire and they are not invincible and can be defeated.

03:57:45.000 But I agree, they're positioning themselves in case they lose to pose as the patriots to then take it over.

03:57:52.000 But we will expose that and we are exposing that.

03:57:55.000 Yeah, it should be easy to figure those people out.

03:57:57.000 You know, because like you say, judge people by their fruit.

03:58:01.000 But that's what I think is really going on.

03:58:03.000 I just don't buy it that all of a sudden Glenn Beck just doesn't about it.

03:58:05.000 He was calling us terrorists a year ago, and now all of a sudden he's having Ron Paul on his show.

03:58:08.000 That's why I went after him.

03:58:10.000 That's why I went up against him, okay?

03:58:12.000 I hear you, and I appreciate you joining us, sir.

03:58:15.000 Thank you so much for spending time with us.

03:58:17.000 Good to have you on.

03:58:17.000 We'll have you back on in the future.

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Alex Jones Show - May 25, 2009

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