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00:00:12.000 You want answers?

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00:00:15.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:19.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:26.000 All right, we're now simulcasting the second half of the four-hour radio show we're now simulcasting the second half of the four-hour radio show from 11 to 3 p.m.

00:00:45.000 every day from 1 to 3 central standard time today.

00:00:48.000 We're simulcasting at PrisonPlanet.tv and the guys are trying to make me laugh at the glass.

00:00:55.000 Bring that in here. 0.97

00:00:57.000 Jesse Ventura scheduled to come up later in the hour.

00:01:00.000 We had him on a few weeks ago.

00:01:01.000 We got him for a full hour.

00:01:04.000 Thank you very much for Bringing this up to me during the five-minute segment when I have all this serious news to cover.

00:01:15.000 What on earth is a $8 Jesse Ventura doll doing in here?

00:01:20.000 Governor of Minnesota, Navy SEAL, Mayor, volunteer football coach.

00:01:25.000 He also did national commentating for national football.

00:01:33.000 You know that? 0.97

00:01:35.000 This is just utterly ridiculous. 0.99

00:01:37.000 Where did this come from? 0.99

00:01:38.000 Why do we have this? 0.99

00:01:39.000 This is just ridiculous. 0.94

00:01:42.000 Who sent it? 0.98

00:01:45.000 A fan, okay.

00:01:47.000 Oh my God. 0.99

00:01:49.000 This is so ridiculous. 0.99

00:01:51.000 Oh my goodness. 0.92

00:01:52.000 We can open it up here.

00:01:53.000 Hold on.

00:01:54.000 A little kid with a... Alright, I got really serious news to cover, folks.

00:02:04.000 Oh my God.

00:02:04.000 And I'd love to have fun around here.

00:02:08.000 I'm not going to be mentioning that when Ventura's on with us.

00:02:11.000 Okay, let's stop right there.

00:02:13.000 Let's get serious.

00:02:18.000 There's a lot of denial going on about the nature of the Internet and the direction it's going in.

00:02:23.000 Internet2, a consortium of private industry, universities and government, has openly announced at Internet2 conferences across the world In Austin, Texas, in Tokyo, Japan, in London, England, you can go read the minutes of their meetings.

00:02:40.000 They have big conventions.

00:02:42.000 They always announce, their slogan is, the internet is dead.

00:02:46.000 And they say they're not going to upgrade the old hubs, they're going to have under the name of cyber security, the feds come in and take over all the telecommunications switching hubs, the peer-to-peer.

00:02:56.000 and that they're going to end the internet as you know it in the next decade and that's going back five six years ago so we're now into the time period when these big changes they say are going to take place And we've written detailed articles about how they're killing the internet that have been picked up by the San Francisco Chronicle and other major publications.

00:03:20.000 So our opinion has been seconded by major publications.

00:03:26.000 I mean, we're not just shooting our mouths off here.

00:03:28.000 We've done the research and we're giving people the big picture.

00:03:32.000 You know, there's other people in denial about all of this.

00:03:37.000 That are posting in this story that's up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and they're saying in this article, oh Alex don't fear monger, the government couldn't shut the internet down if they wanted to.

00:03:53.000 Well there's a problem with that.

00:03:54.000 Here's Mother Jones, should Obama control the internet? 1.00

00:03:59.000 And it says Obama wants the power to shut the internet down to save it.

00:04:05.000 To protect it.

00:04:06.000 That's the whole spin.

00:04:07.000 But the head of cyber security, put in for months by Obama, met with the Pentagon and he came out and said, I'm quitting.

00:04:14.000 This is undemocratic.

00:04:15.000 The Pentagon's taking over the Internet and is going to surveil everybody.

00:04:18.000 In fact, Google that for folks that are watching this live on TV right now.

00:04:23.000 Google, uh, head of cyber security quits.

00:04:26.000 Show him an AP headline.

00:04:28.000 He quit saying they're taking over three months ago.

00:04:31.000 So, people say there'd be a whistleblower if they were doing this.

00:04:34.000 There is!

00:04:35.000 The head of it quit!

00:04:37.000 Here's another one out of Info Science Institute.

00:04:41.000 Obama could shut off the internet to the entire U.S.

00:04:44.000 if he wanted.

00:04:46.000 Should President Obama have the power to shut down domestic Internet traffic during a state of emergency?

00:04:50.000 Senators Jay Rockefeller and Olympia Snowe think so.

00:04:54.000 And then it's got their testimony.

00:04:55.000 That's Mother Jones. 0.84

00:04:57.000 Stop being in denial.

00:04:59.000 The goal of Internet 2 is to shut it down.

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00:08:06.000 The Alex Jones Show.

00:08:08.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

00:08:33.000 Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we are live.

00:08:36.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:08:39.000 I'm going over, for stations that just tuned in, and listeners that just tuned in, I'm going over this article that is so important.

00:08:47.000 It's up on PrisonPlanet.com, and it's also on Infowars.com, and it's titled, Cybersecurity as Framework for Total Government regulation and control of our lives and I want to start this analysis here by pointing out people are in denial about this There are people commenting on the story saying we're fear-mongering.

00:09:15.000 This is not the beginning of the end of the internet well, I just covered in the last segment Mother Jones headline should Obama control the internet and the headline is Should President Obama have the power to shut down domestic internet traffic during a state of emergency?

00:09:33.000 Senators John Rockefeller, Democrat West Virginia, and Olympia Snowe, Republican Maine, think so.

00:09:39.000 On Wednesday they introduced a bill to establish the Office of National Cyber Security Advisor, an arm of the executive branch that would have vast power to monitor and control internet traffic to protect against threats of critical cyber infrastructure.

00:09:52.000 The broad power is rattling some civil libertarians.

00:09:56.000 And then you can go read the bill!

00:10:00.000 You see, when Level 2 and Cogent, just two medium-sized peer-to-peer internet providers had a fight with each other four or five years ago, about a third of the web was inaccessible.

00:10:12.000 Well, by design, under federal law, they want to put snooping hubs and federal machinery, federal pieces of equipment, in even smaller ISPs, where the entire web can be turned on, shut down, parts of it turned on, shut down, anytime the establishment wants to, and that is on record.

00:10:35.000 So this is what they're doing.

00:10:36.000 And after Jesse Ventura leaves us later, I'm going to properly go through all of this because I just can't do it in the...

00:10:50.000 In the time we have, but at the end of the show, the last 30 minutes, I'm going to devote it exclusively, the more I think about it, to just breaking down the whole history of this, how the grid works and what's happening.

00:10:59.000 But I told you GM was going to go bankrupt two and a half years ago, by design, and that they would use the bailout money to ship it to China and Brazil.

00:11:05.000 We're on record.

00:11:06.000 We told you that they were going to stage a 9-11 attack on the World Trade Towers in Lebanon and Bin Laden, months before it happened. 0.94

00:11:14.000 We tell you all of this stuff.

00:11:15.000 We know the enemy's game plan.

00:11:17.000 We know what they're doing.

00:11:21.000 It's as clear as the nose on my face.

00:11:23.000 Right now, let's go ahead and go to Jeff in Hawaii, who says he disagrees.

00:11:28.000 Go ahead, Jeff.

00:11:30.000 Hello?

00:11:31.000 Yes, Jeff.

00:11:32.000 Yes, yes, yes, I really do disagree, but I do think you should change your rule.

00:11:38.000 You know, because you do get a lot of callers who just say they're going to disagree, and then they get put front, right?

00:11:43.000 And then they pump some show, or some internet space, or whatever.

00:11:49.000 So I find you extremely difficult to believe most of what you say at this point.

00:11:55.000 This bird flu thing, you blew completely out of proportion.

00:12:00.000 You said you were losing touch with your ability to think a couple of weeks ago.

00:12:06.000 I think you should admit you're a right winger for one and quit saying you're trying to break the left-right paradigm.

00:12:13.000 Hello?

00:12:14.000 I'm listening to you.

00:12:16.000 Okay, and this guy called in Friday to your show.

00:12:21.000 Jason was the host, but Jason was real trite with the guy.

00:12:25.000 The guy was going to disagree, and he was going to say that you guys are picking on Obama a whole lot more than Bush, which I totally agree with that. 1.00

00:12:33.000 And I want to back that guy up, but Jason really wouldn't listen to the guy.

00:12:38.000 He just got really trite, really smart-alecky with him.

00:12:42.000 And the guy ended up just kind of hanging up during the break and never got any points out.

00:12:45.000 But I would say that we're being bombarded with Obama being the tip of the spear.

00:12:49.000 I mean, Bush wasn't the tip of the spear.

00:12:52.000 He was kind of like a good old boy who you kind of liked underneath.

00:12:55.000 You know, you're kind of like him.

00:12:57.000 I want to say that mining mercury, mining gold, causes mercury poisoning.

00:13:04.000 Are you familiar with this?

00:13:05.000 I know there's a lot of mining that has bad byproducts.

00:13:09.000 Yeah, the two deepest mines in the world, gold mines, are in South Africa.

00:13:15.000 You know, in 86, there was like 177 blacks fried in a gold mine in South Africa. 0.89

00:13:23.000 Sir, I appreciate your call.

00:13:25.000 Sir, listen, I gave you about two minutes to run on there and say I'm a right winger.

00:13:28.000 I'm not a right winger or a left winger.

00:13:30.000 If you think I'm right winger because I'm pro-Second Amendment and pro-national sovereignty, and because I'm against high taxes and regulations and control so that politicians can feather the nest of themselves and big corporations of special interest, then yes, I'm a right winger.

00:13:47.000 but - And I don't believe in this whole left-right thing.

00:13:52.000 And I got somebody on the line with us for the next hour to take calls and cover the news and talk about his view on the world.

00:13:58.000 We really appreciate.

00:14:01.000 Movie star, former top professional wrestler, Little League volunteer coach, I guess, Navy SEAL.

00:14:09.000 Football coach.

00:14:11.000 A football coach.

00:14:12.000 And you also called national football too, didn't you?

00:14:15.000 Yeah, I worked two years for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Gene Becker off on the radio.

00:14:21.000 Yeah, that one year with the Minnesota Vikings.

00:14:24.000 Alright, well, Governor Ventura, it's good to have you back with us.

00:14:27.000 I appreciate you spending time with us.

00:14:29.000 What is most important on your mind right now happening in the world?

00:14:32.000 What is angering Jesse Ventura and what is exciting Jesse Ventura?

00:14:37.000 What's negative and what's positive?

00:14:39.000 Well, Jesse's never angry, Alex, you know that.

00:14:43.000 I'm just enthusiastic, that's all.

00:14:45.000 I don't get bad, I get even.

00:14:47.000 No, I guess what perturbs me is the feeling that I guess I'm not mainstream anymore by some of the things that I believe.

00:14:58.000 When I talk to people and do the press junket on the book tour, I find so often that people are just poo-pooing this torture issue.

00:15:09.000 They're making it seem like, well, these people deserve to be tortured if anyone on the planet does, and therefore it's okay to do it.

00:15:19.000 And I'm appalled over that, because we have to be a country that goes by the rule of law, even when the rule of law is inconvenient.

00:15:30.000 Or not maybe in our favor, we still.

00:15:33.000 Otherwise, what do we stand for, Alex, if we just do it when it works for us?

00:15:39.000 And I just am really pushed today as to why I have to defend my country from torturing people.

00:15:49.000 I never believed I'd have to do that.

00:15:51.000 Well, I agree with you.

00:15:52.000 I mean, it's fundamental that the Nazis and the Soviets and the rest of them tortured people, and so they were the bad guys. 0.94

00:15:59.000 The North Vietnamese tortured people, so they were the bad guys. 1.00

00:16:01.000 And Pol Pot did it, so they were the bad guys. 0.92

00:16:04.000 Now they have the nerve to make Jack Bauer the hero on TV and he tortures people to get answers and then now we've got big Republicans coming out on Fox News we have the clip saying go ahead and just kill everybody at Guantanamo Bay without a trial and then we have this army colonel coming out saying in the New York Post and USA Today Ralph Peters saying kill US media in future wars that criticize the government.

00:16:31.000 Have you heard of this?

00:16:32.000 No, I haven't.

00:16:33.000 You know, I'm not as well read on the topics always as you are, Alex.

00:16:38.000 Many of the stuff I hear from you for the first time.

00:16:43.000 You know, people need to understand the large picture here that there's an old saying that one of my best friends that I grew up with, his father, he passed away a couple years ago in his 90s, who was a good friend of my father.

00:16:57.000 We were young boys together and our fathers actually grew up together.

00:17:02.000 And he used to always make the saying that you never let the camel get its nose under the tent.

00:17:10.000 And of course what he meant by that is if a camel gets its nose under the tent, rest assured eventually the whole body is going to get in the tent.

00:17:19.000 It's inevitable.

00:17:20.000 Give them an inch, they'll take you a mile.

00:17:22.000 Exactly.

00:17:23.000 The same philosophy.

00:17:24.000 And so, when we take an attitude on this torturing that, well, it's okay under certain instances, we'll get ready because we're not going to end it there.

00:17:36.000 It's man's natural aggression and power that it's going to expand and pretty soon, you know, when people like I had, I had someone defend it by saying that, well, our Constitution says that It only protects American citizens, so if you're not an American citizen, you're not protected by our Constitution.

00:17:58.000 Well, to that I say hogwash, because that would be the equivalent, then, if a tourist came to America and was arrested for something, that we could take that tourist in and waterboard them.

00:18:10.000 Exactly.

00:18:11.000 To find out what they know.

00:18:13.000 Well, the Declaration of Independence states that all men are created equal, and that this was a document for the whole world, and that it was only pointing out basic rights that were already there.

00:18:22.000 Plus, the military admits the intelligence they get from tortures, A, no good, and B, how are we going to say other countries are bad when they torture our people?

00:18:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:18:33.000 And I'm left today, Alex, hanging my head Feeling now, how do I defend America when I'm abroad?

00:18:41.000 Because you know I live in a foreign country after a year now.

00:18:44.000 How can I defend America when we've tortured people now?

00:18:49.000 And it's not just Guantanamo.

00:18:51.000 We tortured them in Iraq.

00:18:53.000 And think of this for a moment.

00:18:55.000 We're the invaders.

00:18:57.000 We invaded Iraq. 0.90

00:18:59.000 And then we torture people after we invade?

00:19:04.000 I will never forgive George Bush and Dick Cheney for what they've done to my country.

00:19:12.000 Well, I certainly share those views, Governor Ventura.

00:19:17.000 Well, you asked me what the negatives were.

00:19:20.000 There you got it.

00:19:20.000 Now, do you want the positives?

00:19:22.000 Yes, we're about to break, but I do want to hear the positives when we get back because I really want to get your perspective on things and talk about your book, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me, now in paperback.

00:19:33.000 I was reading that's doing quite well.

00:19:35.000 Yeah, it's doing very good.

00:19:37.000 I'm very happy with it.

00:19:38.000 I look forward to it being out there.

00:19:41.000 Absolutely.

00:19:42.000 Former Minnesota governor, best-selling author, many times over.

00:19:45.000 Jesse Ventura and, of course, you all know him from The Running Man and Predator and many other great films. 0.97

00:19:51.000 Two of my favorite films there, with Ventura going, I've been killing guys for years with all this crap.

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00:24:13.000 Coming up in the next segment, I'm going to open the phones up for Jesse Ventura at 1-800-259-9231 because listeners can always bring up questions and angles and ideas that I would have never thought to ask a great guest like Mr. Ventura, former governor of Minnesota.

00:24:28.000 New book out in paperback, Don't Start a Revolution Without Me.

00:24:33.000 But Jesse, what's positive that you see in the world going on right now?

00:24:37.000 I see us communicating.

00:24:42.000 And I give kudos to President Obama for that.

00:24:46.000 Because we should always talk with anyone before going to war with them.

00:24:51.000 You know, people don't realize that war should be the last option.

00:24:56.000 War is the result of failed diplomacy. 0.62

00:24:59.000 It's a result of failed politics.

00:25:02.000 And it should be always left as the last resort.

00:25:06.000 And it seems we've gotten into a mode now that it's become the first resort.

00:25:11.000 And I'm not saying we shouldn't defend ourselves, of course we should.

00:25:15.000 But we should always be available to talk and communicate.

00:25:18.000 I love the fact that there's a realm of communication going on now as rough as it is between Washington and Cuba.

00:25:27.000 If you didn't hear Alex, I came out and said that I would love to be named the ambassador to Cuba, the first one, if we get to the point where we can get to that level of communication.

00:25:38.000 I've been to Cuba.

00:25:39.000 It's a beautiful place.

00:25:41.000 And we boycott it.

00:25:43.000 We embargo it.

00:25:44.000 And all we're doing is hurting the Cuban people. 0.99

00:25:47.000 You know, we're sitting here waiting for Castro to be overthrown by his country.

00:25:52.000 It's not going to happen.

00:25:53.000 I got news for you. 0.89

00:25:54.000 Castro's going to die an old man. 0.58

00:25:56.000 And we're wasting all this time.

00:26:01.000 Let me put it into connotation like this, Alex.

00:26:04.000 That policy in Cuba is like a football game.

00:26:08.000 You come in with a game plan.

00:26:09.000 If you get to the fourth quarter and you haven't scored yet, don't you think it's time you re-evaluate your game plan?

00:26:15.000 Absolutely.

00:26:16.000 It's been almost 50 years since the embargo, hasn't it? 0.92

00:26:20.000 Yes, and it's ridiculous.

00:26:22.000 I was down there. 0.76

00:26:23.000 Cuban people have to import milk from New Zealand.

00:26:27.000 Now, we got milk right here in Minnesota.

00:26:29.000 We could send right down the river to them in the Mississippi and right across the Gulf. 0.92

00:26:33.000 It's a win-win situation.

00:26:35.000 Why do they stand in the way of a win-win situation?

00:26:39.000 Well, I'm no fan of the corrupt government they had before Fidel, but it certainly was very corrupt after.

00:26:43.000 The issue is, and most sociologists and historians agree, the embargo Well, and the point of the matter is, the Cuban people, I've met them, they're a very proud people.

00:26:52.000 and kept all the hotels and casinos there, he would have gotten thrown out very quickly.

00:26:57.000 The fact that the West was antagonistic allowed the Soviets to fill that vacuum and allowed things to deteriorate to the point they are now. - Well, and the point of the matter is, the Cuban people, I've met them, they're a very proud people, and they're not going to be dictated to by us. and they're not going to be dictated to by us.

00:27:15.000 If they want Castro gone, they will do it.

00:27:19.000 And they don't need us prompting them to do it, or us to do all the stuff behind the scenes.

00:27:25.000 People need to realize, way back in the 60s, we were practicing terrorism on Cuba.

00:27:32.000 We were blowing up ships in their bay.

00:27:34.000 We were attempting to assassinate their leaders.

00:27:38.000 We were doing all these acts of terrorism, but we failed.

00:27:41.000 You know, one of the things that irks me, I sit outside the country and watch the U.S.

00:27:46.000 now, and Alex, our ego is unbelievable.

00:27:49.000 We can never admit we're wrong.

00:27:52.000 And it's like our way or the highway.

00:27:55.000 And I just don't think in the world today you can live that way.

00:28:00.000 Well, I agree with you, Jesse Ventura.

00:28:03.000 My issue, as we get ready to go to break here in a few minutes, I want to go ahead and start asking this question now.

00:28:08.000 When you were down here in Austin back in October, you made the point that Obama was already fudging.

00:28:13.000 That Obama was already going back from saying, day one I bring in the troops to 16 months, 21 months, now 50,000 indefinitely.

00:28:21.000 And I know as bad as Bush and Cheney were, you want to give him benefit of the doubt.

00:28:26.000 But what I'm seeing is slick deception.

00:28:28.000 He says he wants to stay taunt with Iran, but increases covert operations.

00:28:32.000 And I have that mainstream news today.

00:28:34.000 He says oh, I want to talk to other countries, but actually continues the encircling of Russia and other nations.

00:28:41.000 And he's moving ahead with his cyberbullying bill that if somebody says that you hurt their feelings, that then you get a federal felony for what you say.

00:28:49.000 I'm computer illiterate, so you're going off into places into Star Trek for me.

00:28:55.000 No, I understand that, Governor.

00:28:57.000 But the point is that I'm telling you, Barack Obama, going with your earlier instincts, saying he's already fudging.

00:29:06.000 I'm telling you, this guy says one thing and does another.

00:29:09.000 Well, let's remember something.

00:29:11.000 He's still just a Democrat.

00:29:15.000 Always remember that.

00:29:17.000 And there are them and the Republicans, they control the whole game.

00:29:22.000 And they don't allow anyone else into the game.

00:29:26.000 And so, bear that in mind.

00:29:30.000 Like on the whole torture issue, the reason they want to move on is because they're both caught.

00:29:36.000 And so, even if the Democrats didn't order the torture, they knew what was going on and they condoned it, which is just as bad.

00:29:43.000 That's why they want to move on.

00:29:45.000 I know you've got to go to break.

00:29:46.000 I hear the music.

00:29:47.000 Yeah, let's finish up with torture when we come back, then take phone calls and get into a host of other issues with Governor Jesse Mintero.

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00:33:04.000 Okay, Jesse Ventura is our guest.

00:33:18.000 Got about 45 minutes left with him, and I want to go to your phone calls.

00:33:21.000 I've got a million questions I want to ask, but I know you've probably got better questions than I. I'm always amazed by how great the listeners' questions are.

00:33:28.000 Governor, during the break, we were talking about torture again.

00:33:31.000 Torture, torture, torture is on your mind.

00:33:33.000 And in my film, the first 9-11 film that was put out back in 2002, 9-11 and the Road to Tyranny, I show the Washington Post headline.

00:33:43.000 Where it says, we're torturing their children.

00:33:46.000 We're interrogating, putting pressure on people's children to make them answer questions.

00:33:51.000 And then with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and others, they admit they threatened his kids. 0.92

00:33:54.000 And then now, General Tegumbu's own army report, U.S.

00:33:58.000 Army, MSNBC headline.

00:34:00.000 In fact, pull that up, folks.

00:34:01.000 Army Report, children raped.

00:34:03.000 Cy Hirsch of New Yorker Magazine. 0.68

00:34:05.000 They've confirmed that they torture people's children in front of them.

00:34:08.000 So, as you were saying, it's light years ahead of just Guantanamo Bay and insects and sleep deprivation and waterboarding.

00:34:17.000 You know, Alex, I would really, and I would do this on my own dime, I would go out, like they say, they won't release these photographs to the public.

00:34:27.000 I would go out there and I, I, will they let me go in and see them?

00:34:35.000 Well, I remember a week and a half ago you first broke down here on air that you would do that.

00:34:38.000 You know, I would love to go out there to bring me to a room where these photographs are that none of us are being allowed to see because I think I'm qualified.

00:34:47.000 I was a mayor.

00:34:48.000 I was a governor.

00:34:50.000 When I was in the Navy, I had a top secret security clearance.

00:34:54.000 You know, so I think, you know, I'm 57 years old going on 58.

00:34:59.000 I think that I'm an adult.

00:35:00.000 And I think that as a tax-paying citizen, that I should have the right to be able to walk in there, view these photographs that, you know, we can't put out because we don't want them splattered all over every newspaper in America to get the Muslim world that much more angry at us. 0.94

00:35:17.000 Which the bottom line, of course, is if we hadn't behaved in this manner, we wouldn't have to worry about this, would we, Alex?

00:35:24.000 I was about to say that's like saying we can't show the Nazi or Soviet atrocities because it might anger the world.

00:35:30.000 We have to show this so that it doesn't continue to happen.

00:35:33.000 But that's the whole issue is they have to be released because the neocons and others are still out there defending all of this and Obama does double speak.

00:35:41.000 Well, let's start and chip away at it.

00:35:44.000 Let's see if we can get me out there to see them.

00:35:48.000 You trust me, don't you?

00:35:49.000 Yes, Jesse, I think you should... Well, then, let's go from that route and say, okay, since the general public, we should be able to send a couple of representatives from the general public.

00:35:59.000 I agree.

00:36:00.000 Let's send Ron Paul, too.

00:36:02.000 Well, but Ron's still elected.

00:36:07.000 Let's send two people who are not elected, a couple of people that are just regular citizens.

00:36:12.000 Well, I know this, man down low... Take us into the room.

00:36:17.000 I promise I won't throw up.

00:36:19.000 I have a pretty strong stomach, if it's that bad.

00:36:22.000 And, you know, let me go in and view these and when I come out, I'll come on your show and anybody else's show and hold a press conference and state unequivocally, you know, is there a problem here?

00:36:37.000 Well, Mancow, talk show host who we interviewed, is coming on tomorrow.

00:36:41.000 He was waterboarded last week and lasted six seconds.

00:36:43.000 They say the average person lasts 18 seconds.

00:36:46.000 You've been waterboarded.

00:36:47.000 Yes, I laughed.

00:36:49.000 I saw Mancow's thing on the internet.

00:36:51.000 My wife brought it up.

00:36:52.000 And I loved it.

00:36:54.000 I mean, I didn't love it that he was waterboarding.

00:36:57.000 I loved the fact that he had the courage.

00:36:59.000 He took the position that waterboarding was, you know, we should allow him to do it because it's saving lives and it does this and it does that, which is not true.

00:37:08.000 Because any information you get from somebody being tortured is not, you know, good information.

00:37:15.000 It's not sound.

00:37:15.000 They're going to say whatever it is they have to say to stop the torture.

00:37:20.000 And, uh, Mancow got waterboarded.

00:37:23.000 He wasn't strapped down.

00:37:24.000 They should have did it the way they did it to us.

00:37:27.000 You were strapped down, your arms and legs, your head was put in where you couldn't move it, and generally somebody dropped a knee into your stomach so you couldn't get a breath of air.

00:37:37.000 Then they start waterboardin' ya.

00:37:39.000 Well, he was allowed to just lay there.

00:37:42.000 They started to waterboard him.

00:37:43.000 He could break it off any time he felt like it.

00:37:45.000 He lasted six whole seconds.

00:37:48.000 And it took him about three or four minutes to compose himself.

00:37:52.000 And when he did, he said that it was 20 times worse than what he ever imagined it to be.

00:37:56.000 And he definitely said it was torture.

00:37:59.000 Jesse, I've got the answer.

00:38:01.000 If you want to get publicity on this torture, this would be huge.

00:38:04.000 You need, and we can hire the crew, even come up to Minnesota and have the news there do it.

00:38:10.000 Have you waterboarded to show people and challenge media people?

00:38:13.000 I've been waterboarded.

00:38:14.000 I'm not getting waterboarded.

00:38:16.000 No, I know.

00:38:17.000 Okay, then you can do the waterboard.

00:38:18.000 I don't need it.

00:38:19.000 I don't... if... look at... Alex, I went to BOTS.

00:38:24.000 Basic underwater demolition SEAL training.

00:38:27.000 A friend of mine just emailed me, who likewise went to a different SEAL school than I did, and he said it was torture.

00:38:34.000 He also went through BUDS.

00:38:36.000 He was class 56, I was class 58.

00:38:39.000 We served together overseas.

00:38:41.000 If two guys who went through Navy SEAL training are telling you that it's torture, isn't that believable enough?

00:38:50.000 Well everybody knows it's torture, but that's the issue of these control freaks.

00:38:54.000 Like Karl Rove told the news media years ago that he controls reality, that they are history's actors.

00:39:00.000 They are saying here, no it's not torture and it's okay if we do it to non-citizens, but the Military Commissions Act and the Enemy Combatant Act states they can secretly strip a U.S. 0.76

00:39:11.000 citizen of their rights and then do it to us. 0.96

00:39:14.000 Remember, they swore the Patriot Act wouldn't be used against U.S.

00:39:17.000 citizens, and now they admit that every state has used it thousands and thousands of times.

00:39:21.000 But going back, Jesse, Because I've got to get this question out to you.

00:39:24.000 I'm saying you're angry about torture.

00:39:26.000 I'm angry about it.

00:39:27.000 You ought to challenge all these media people that have been promoting it as a good idea and not as torture.

00:39:33.000 You ought to challenge them to go on national television and that you would waterboard them.

00:39:38.000 That was the point.

00:39:39.000 No, I would not waterboard them because I'm not a professional.

00:39:44.000 What you need to do is get one of these Sears School instructors to do it.

00:39:51.000 I've only been the recipient of it.

00:39:53.000 I would not want to be the one doing it because I'm not trained to do it.

00:40:00.000 When they did it to all of us, there was a doctor right there.

00:40:05.000 So, for them to say that this is not dangerous is a lie.

00:40:10.000 Because how do you know what the person's heart condition is like?

00:40:14.000 Are they giving them physicals before they do it to them?

00:40:17.000 I agree with you, but let me go further.

00:40:19.000 Like when I said that Dick Cheney, I could get him to confess to the Sharon Tate murders, I don't believe that anymore.

00:40:26.000 Because I thought about it and realized Cheney's got that weak heart to begin with.

00:40:31.000 He would never last it.

00:40:32.000 I don't think it would kill him.

00:40:34.000 And that's the point.

00:40:37.000 When they're doing this to people, they haven't even charged them with a crime.

00:40:43.000 And yet we're torturing them, supposedly, to get information from them.

00:40:47.000 That's what the Nazis did. 0.86

00:40:49.000 That's what, you know, and now we're doing it.

00:40:51.000 Well, then again, we invade countries now, don't we?

00:40:54.000 But that's the point I'm trying to make, is a challenge.

00:40:57.000 You could MC it, fine.

00:40:59.000 Because I couldn't get the attention to be able to do this.

00:41:02.000 What about having an event where you challenge all these media whores that have been on air, there's dozens of them, saying that it isn't torture, where you publicly go on the air on all these stations you're going on, and then challenge them and challenge them and then have them come and get waterboarded. 1.00

00:41:18.000 They'd all give up in 15, 20 seconds.

00:41:20.000 They would all admit, yes, it's torture, and then you would have proven the point.

00:41:24.000 We need to improve.

00:41:25.000 Well, you know what?

00:41:26.000 I'd rather do it with our head government officials who really can make the change.

00:41:31.000 You know, doing it to media people like Hannity and people like that, all that's going to do is build their ratings and help for their nonsense positions.

00:41:41.000 I would rather do it at all.

00:41:43.000 I'd rather get in and see the photos, Alex, and be able to come out and report to the general people what I saw.

00:41:49.000 Well, let me tell you what the Army saw.

00:41:51.000 And guys, pull it up on screen.

00:41:52.000 Have you seen the Army report?

00:41:53.000 It's almost gotten no attention.

00:41:55.000 MSNBC, New Yorker Magazine, three years ago reported on it.

00:41:58.000 The Army's own report admits they tortured children by design, including sodomizing them in front of their parents.

00:42:06.000 Well, I find that, you know, that's another charge that I would have to see to believe.

00:42:13.000 I've got to see it.

00:42:15.000 I'll tell you what, I'm going to... And if there's photographs of this, I'm old enough.

00:42:22.000 I've seen enough in my life.

00:42:23.000 I can take it.

00:42:24.000 I won't lose sleep over it.

00:42:26.000 Hopefully.

00:42:28.000 Okay, here it is, Jesse.

00:42:29.000 I mean, right now we're... I'm not doubting you, Alex, but again, I've got, you know, I got to go, I want to go see this stuff.

00:42:35.000 No, no, I fully understand.

00:42:37.000 I think it's a good idea.

00:42:38.000 People should call Obama and tell him, let you in there to see him.

00:42:40.000 But Congress has been allowed to see this, and they said it included children being raped, but that it shouldn't be released.

00:42:46.000 Okay, if you Google Cy Hirst children raped, you'll get New Yorker Magazine and others, and we've got these up on screen.

00:42:54.000 You know what I think is better, Alex?

00:42:56.000 We need to wake up America over the fact that this is going on and that it's unacceptable and they better speak out about it.

00:43:04.000 No, that's my point!

00:43:05.000 How do we get attention to it?

00:43:07.000 We point this out like you're doing.

00:43:09.000 I mean, you're really one of the only people that's been on national news even challenging this.

00:43:13.000 And I see your point that you feel like you're the normal person going, you don't torture people, this is America.

00:43:20.000 And then the media is acting like you're the weirdo.

00:43:22.000 Oh yeah, and not only that, but even people behind the scenes are telling me that this is okay to do, because it's saving lives.

00:43:33.000 And I'm trying to say, well, but there's a bigger picture than even that, you know, that if you believe even that we're saving lives, we still have to stand for something.

00:43:45.000 And not only that, but aren't the terrorists winning then, Alex?

00:43:51.000 I mean, they can't beat us militarily, we all know that.

00:43:55.000 But if they can change America, and they can turn us into some sort of fascist, torturing country, well then they're winning.

00:44:05.000 Well look, you've come out and questioned the official fairytale of 9-11.

00:44:10.000 You know the official story is impossible.

00:44:12.000 You know they staged the Gulf of Tonkin and they blew up Cuban airliners and blamed it on different groups.

00:44:18.000 It's in Army Manual put out in 2004.

00:44:21.000 They teach captains now how to stage false flag terror attacks.

00:44:25.000 And so, you know, this whole excuse that we've got to listen to you with wiretaps to keep you safe from Al-Qaeda, and it comes out they've been doing it for decades before 9-11.

00:44:33.000 I mean, it's all a big excuse to set up tyranny.

00:44:37.000 Do you know what happened to me today, Alex?

00:44:40.000 What?

00:44:40.000 The normal line that I use, because whenever I do national media, when I come back, whether it's a book tour or whatever it is, my home phones always go goofy and so does my wife's computer.

00:44:56.000 And sure enough, I'm doing the media stuff on the paperback book, and today the normal line that I always do my interviews on was dead.

00:45:06.000 And I almost missed an interview this morning because I didn't know it was dead.

00:45:13.000 And when I found out, of course, we were able to call up and we did the interview a half hour late.

00:45:20.000 But that happens to me every time I go national.

00:45:23.000 Anytime I start doing these national shows, My telephones start going bonkers at my house.

00:45:29.000 Is that why you said you've added extra backup phone lines now?

00:45:33.000 Uh, no.

00:45:34.000 I have them all just for purposes.

00:45:36.000 Like, the one that I've been using for doing all my media is my fax line.

00:45:43.000 Because if I pick up the phone quick, they don't get the fax machine.

00:45:47.000 You know?

00:45:47.000 And that's what I do, because I sit right by my desk, and when it rings, the light goes on, and that's the one I use.

00:45:54.000 And, well, that one was dead today.

00:45:57.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

00:45:58.000 In fact, when you were governor, you said you had the phone guy out after, and they said, oh yeah, I've never seen anything like this.

00:46:03.000 Oh yeah, when they have me hooked up, you get a red phone in your house, that if it's even knocked off the hook, of course the local police come, which is good.

00:46:12.000 You know, you want that ability to be protected, even though you've still got protection there.

00:46:17.000 But when they came out after I left office, the professional phone guys looked at my phone and they said, we've never seen a setup like what was on this thing.

00:46:25.000 We don't even know what it was.

00:46:27.000 Well, for those that don't remember, you know, I'm like a redheaded stepchild in this country.

00:46:35.000 I got elected not with money, and I got elected on ideas, and I beat the status quo, and it scared a lot of people, so I would assume they want to know what I'm doing.

00:46:47.000 Well, that's what I was about to say.

00:46:49.000 For the people that are in denial, the CIA visited you and twenty-something of them your first day in office.

00:46:56.000 I don't know.

00:46:56.000 It wasn't my first day, though.

00:46:58.000 It was a few weeks ago.

00:46:58.000 Your second day or whatever, whatever.

00:47:00.000 It was a couple weeks in office, but... And I under... You know, now I know why they did it.

00:47:00.000 I don't know.

00:47:06.000 Because all their questions dealt with how I got elected.

00:47:10.000 They didn't see me coming, so they were, in hindsight, trying to learn what happened.

00:47:14.000 I don't know if that's to prevent it in the future, or whether it's to be able to understand it in the future.

00:47:20.000 I'm not really sure to what it'll be used for.

00:47:25.000 Well, that was my point, was that soon after being elected, you were visited by 20 plus members of the CIA who wouldn't tell you why they were there.

00:47:32.000 So according to what my memory serves, you basically said, look, I'm not going to answer your questions and left because of that.

00:47:38.000 That shows how... We had a question and answer period, but I just, you know, had to give them a hard time about it.

00:47:45.000 But didn't you ask him from memory that, hey, you're not supposed to be operating domestically?

00:47:49.000 Well, that was my first question.

00:47:50.000 I asked him why they operate within the United States when their mission statement says that they're only supposed to be operational outside the United States.

00:47:59.000 Why would they be inside it?

00:48:01.000 And you really can't get an answer from them.

00:48:03.000 They hem and haw.

00:48:05.000 And I guess because they're federal and I was only a governor, they didn't feel required to give me an answer.

00:48:13.000 Well, no, they were breaking the law, so they didn't want to comment because you were hitting the nail on the head.

00:48:16.000 Okay.

00:48:16.000 Look, I'm going to ask you these... Alex, I'm trying to... No, I mean, that was it.

00:48:23.000 I mean, you had them right between the eyes. 0.95

00:48:24.000 Look, here's the bottom line.

00:48:26.000 The very part, Alex, was this.

00:48:29.000 When I looked around the room at these 23 people, oh, they're your neighbors.

00:48:36.000 And what I mean by that is they're all ages.

00:48:39.000 They look like the woman down the street that comes out and sweeps her step off in the morning. 0.94

00:48:45.000 That didn't look like James Bond in Casino Royale.

00:48:48.000 They look nothing like Sean Connery.

00:48:51.000 They look... I guess I'm dating myself.

00:48:53.000 They look nothing like the quintessential secret agent that you would imagine.

00:48:59.000 They didn't even look like Howard Hunt for that matter.

00:49:04.000 You know?

00:49:05.000 They looked like that was, to me, the real eye-opener.

00:49:08.000 Well, Governor, have you noticed... Looking at who they were.

00:49:11.000 I mean, have you noticed all the radio and TV ads recruiting this giant domestic CIA?

00:49:17.000 They are recruiting for domestic operations.

00:49:20.000 Northcom is announcing that they're going to have military operations in the United States.

00:49:25.000 Well, I don't know.

00:49:27.000 You know, what do we do, Alex?

00:49:29.000 Re-enlist and take back the military?

00:49:31.000 I'm too old.

00:49:32.000 Well, this is my point.

00:49:34.000 I believe you're a moral person, and by that, you follow what you think is right.

00:49:39.000 And you're not here to be bought off.

00:49:41.000 You're not here to compromise.

00:49:43.000 You do what Jesse Ventura thinks is right.

00:49:46.000 I'm telling you, I studied Obama.

00:49:48.000 This guy is a velvet glove George Bush over the iron fist.

00:49:52.000 And he's saying they're going to continue to hold people secretly.

00:49:55.000 He's saying no rights for detainees.

00:49:58.000 He is looting us with the foreign banks just as much as George Bush did.

00:50:02.000 Down the road, what is it going to take for you to start speaking out against Obama?

00:50:06.000 Down the road, it'll be about a year from now.

00:50:10.000 Because I've got to give him his due for at least more than 100 days, Alex.

00:50:16.000 I've got to see what happens and give him at least a year because I can't imagine what it was like to step into that.

00:50:25.000 And what he probably knows, just like when I became governor, After 100 days as governor, I was probably 50% smarter than I was prior to being elected governor.

00:50:43.000 But I still was probably another 25% away from knowing everything.

00:50:51.000 So I've got to give him a little bit more time before I would harshly criticize him.

00:50:57.000 Well, and it's the lying, though, Governor.

00:50:58.000 He just... Well, I just... Stay there.

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00:54:14.000 Please have a quick question or comment for Governor Yissa Ventura.

00:54:20.000 His new book out in paperback, an international bestseller, Don't Start a Revolution Without Me.

00:54:24.000 Don't start a revolution without you.

00:54:26.000 You're definitely out there standing up against torture, the police state, the new world order, in many ways, and for the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

00:54:34.000 What do you think of Chrysler going under?

00:54:36.000 Now GM.

00:54:37.000 They're going to give them bailout money to move to China and Brazil.

00:54:41.000 The Wall Street Journal's now reporting.

00:54:43.000 I mean, this globalization, this naphtha and ghat, this has butchered the hell out of our country. 0.82

00:54:49.000 Well, again, you know, you gotta see it happen before... I don't know the economy well enough to know whether the bailout is proper or not.

00:54:58.000 I don't, you know, because both sides have voted for it.

00:55:01.000 That's when you know it's bad!

00:55:04.000 Yeah, well, when Bush was in, they all voted for the bailout.

00:55:07.000 And then Obama comes and they continue to vote for the bailout.

00:55:11.000 Is the bailout the answer?

00:55:13.000 I don't know, but there's nothing we can do about it because they are our elected officials and they run the country, so I guess we're going to live or die by the decisions that they make because after all, we elected them, didn't we?

00:55:26.000 So what happens as things start falling apart even more and both parties On every issue, 80-90% of the people want to go one way, which is always with the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

00:55:38.000 The people actually on average in polls get it right, but the politicians are all together with the offshore banks.

00:55:44.000 I mean, this is coming to a head.

00:55:46.000 Again, it still comes down to us.

00:55:50.000 When you strip everything away from it all, we elect them. 0.77

00:55:55.000 I've been fighting for it for... I mean, I voted for John Anderson way back in the 80s.

00:56:01.000 Well, you know about the money, though.

00:56:03.000 You know about the money.

00:56:04.000 I haven't voted against these parties my entire adult life.

00:56:07.000 I understand that.

00:56:09.000 Alex, as long as we keep electing Democrats and Republicans, this is what you're going to get.

00:56:15.000 No, I understand that, Jesse, and you're right about the whole left-right control paradigm and special interest owning both, but you had celebrity and were a sharp, intelligent guy and barely won.

00:56:24.000 Yeah.

00:56:24.000 Do it as a protest vote.

00:56:25.000 I do it.

00:56:25.000 kind of figured out how to block people like you in the future.

00:56:28.000 It's the money.

00:56:29.000 The people know both parties are shot, but the money only pushes the establishment candidate.

00:56:34.000 I mean, what do people do?

00:56:35.000 Just vote for third party no matter what?

00:56:38.000 Yeah.

00:56:40.000 Do it as a protest vote.

00:56:41.000 I do it.

00:56:42.000 I go there and when there's any in the election, I go there and I pick out any candidate who's not a Democrat or Republican.

00:56:51.000 That's what I do.

00:56:53.000 And I protest both.

00:56:55.000 To me, if you go there and pick them out, then you're playing their game.

00:57:02.000 Ultimately, they still get to be in charge because they got you to vote for them.

00:57:06.000 And I'm not saying you, Alex, as an individual.

00:57:09.000 I mean everybody out there.

00:57:10.000 No, I understand.

00:57:11.000 Let's jam a call in.

00:57:12.000 Bill in Connecticut.

00:57:13.000 You're on the air with Jesse Ventura.

00:57:16.000 Hey guys, how you doing?

00:57:17.000 Hi Bill, how are you?

00:57:18.000 Real good.

00:57:19.000 Hey, I got a question for both of you.

00:57:23.000 It's pertaining to the legitimacy of Barack Obama being the president.

00:57:30.000 And I'm just kind of surprised that nobody talks about it.

00:57:35.000 Well, that's because the media has chosen to focus in on that early on instead of all the other things that were wrong with Obama, that we can prove all his lying about wiretapping and torture and police state and wars and special interest.

00:57:50.000 They always focus on that because you can't prove it one way or the other.

00:57:54.000 Jesse Ventura, what's your take on the whole birth certificate thing?

00:57:57.000 You know, I guess I haven't paid much attention to it at all.

00:58:03.000 To me, how could he not be a citizen?

00:58:09.000 Well, McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone before there were bases there.

00:58:13.000 That's another question.

00:58:14.000 How could both candidates have questionable innings?

00:58:16.000 But the point is, they come from parents who are from here.

00:58:20.000 I mean, if they happen to be working abroad, that doesn't mean you're not an American citizen, does it?

00:58:25.000 Well, his mom was from here.

00:58:27.000 The dad was a communist from Kenya.

00:58:34.000 Maybe you can be the ambassador to Kenyistan.

00:58:36.000 The whole country will be run like Kenya. 1.00

00:58:38.000 Stay there.

00:58:39.000 Back in one minute.

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01:00:01.000 Okay, Governor Jesse Ventura will be with us until about 18 after.

01:00:16.000 End of the next segment.

01:00:18.000 We're taking your phone calls right now.

01:00:20.000 Patriot in Wisconsin, you're on the air with Jesse Ventura, on the air with us talking about his new bestseller, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me, out in paperback.

01:00:28.000 Go ahead, Patriot.

01:00:30.000 Hi, guys.

01:00:31.000 You were talking about being ambassador in Cuba, but if we're having relations with countries like Cuba and North Korea or China or Iran, Doesn't that sort of legitimize their government?

01:00:43.000 Well, what?

01:00:44.000 Their governments don't exist?

01:00:46.000 What, are you going to pretend that these countries would be them communists and somehow they don't exist so we just ignore them and they'll go away?

01:00:55.000 Come on! 0.61

01:00:57.000 Get in the real world!

01:00:58.000 They're communists.

01:01:00.000 That's what we got.

01:01:01.000 You know there's no thing in poker.

01:01:03.000 Sometimes you gotta play the hand you're dealt.

01:01:06.000 Do I support communism?

01:01:08.000 No!

01:01:09.000 But they do exist!

01:01:11.000 And if you can't shut yourself off from that fact and pretend they don't... Absolutely!

01:01:16.000 throw some at the caller and then get his taken and then yours, Governor.

01:01:18.000 Look, detente always stops wars.

01:01:23.000 It's always good to try to talk to somebody.

01:01:26.000 Absolutely.

01:01:27.000 Bloodshed should be the last thing.

01:01:29.000 I mean, take our founding fathers.

01:01:31.000 They talked for ten years before they declared, you know, independence in 1776 against the tyranny of the king.

01:01:39.000 And then you're in the right when you've tried.

01:01:41.000 But Iran, we overthrew Iran in 53. 0.99

01:01:44.000 Our government stages terror attacks.

01:01:46.000 That's in the news today.

01:01:47.000 I mean, Iran doesn't deserve to be attacked.

01:01:51.000 And by being mean to Iran, that makes them get more hardline people in power, like Ahmedinejad, common scholar.

01:01:58.000 Well, yeah, I understand that.

01:01:59.000 I'm not necessarily talking about going to war, but I'm talking about something like, uh, when the Communists took over in the Soviet Union, when the Communists took over in China.

01:02:07.000 Do you think it's a good idea to have, uh, business relationships with them?

01:02:11.000 Or shouldn't we sort of try to, uh... Well, we've been doing business with China, we've been doing business with Vietnam, and, uh, why wouldn't we do business with Cuba?

01:02:25.000 You know, to me, remember, it was interesting when I was in China.

01:02:29.000 Do you remember when we blew up their embassy? 0.83

01:02:34.000 Yes.

01:02:34.000 Yeah, okay, so I asked some people who lived over there.

01:02:38.000 I said, how did the Chinese people take to that when we blew up their embassy? 0.99

01:02:42.000 And these people had lived there for 10 or 12 years.

01:02:45.000 They said, well, at first they kind of gave us some steely-eyed stares a little bit initially, but they said within 24 hours all the Chinese people shrugged off and went, eh, government. 0.54

01:02:59.000 You know, we've got to remember something.

01:03:01.000 Government thrives on creating hostilities between we the people.

01:03:06.000 Look, here's the issue.

01:03:08.000 During the decades of embargoes against Iran, guess the one U.S.

01:03:13.000 company that was allowed to ship in oil field and nuke components?

01:03:17.000 Halliburton.

01:03:18.000 And then Dick Cheney got caught doing it and said, oh, well, it's no big deal.

01:03:22.000 We have a subsidiary and the Cayman's doing it.

01:03:24.000 When you put those sanctions on them, it only allows corrupt select groups to sell the goods, and that's what these governments love.

01:03:31.000 Jesse?

01:03:32.000 I agree.

01:03:33.000 Again, it's, uh, and you're not harming, you know, you're, when you're, when you put sanctions on and all that, you're only harming the people.

01:03:42.000 Do you think Fidel Castro misses a meal?

01:03:46.000 Do you think somehow our sanctions make his life somehow more demanding?

01:03:51.000 No!

01:03:52.000 All you're doing is hurting the poor people of Cuba in not doing business with them and not attempting to raise everybody's lifestyle.

01:04:01.000 It's a win-win.

01:04:02.000 And these embargoes are not win-wins at all.

01:04:06.000 Jesse, we know the truth.

01:04:07.000 You just want to go surfing on those great beaches that supposedly have great waves.

01:04:11.000 Well, I could do it anyway.

01:04:12.000 All you gotta do is sneak in there.

01:04:14.000 It's a game though.

01:04:16.000 Why should, okay, we live in a free country.

01:04:18.000 Why should I have my passport revoked from me if I decide I want to go to Cuba?

01:04:24.000 By the way, I saw my four-year-old actually get up on a board this weekend at the Texas coast.

01:04:29.000 But just for a second, she got up on it for a second.

01:04:31.000 It was pretty neat.

01:04:32.000 Oh, well, next time it'll be two seconds, and then it'll be three seconds, and before you know it, she'll be riding those waves all the way to shore. 1.00

01:04:40.000 I tell you, serving's very addictive, isn't it, Jesse?

01:04:43.000 Yes, it is, and it's very difficult, and people don't realize that it's a life dedication, and I love to say this.

01:04:51.000 If people were that dedicated to a religion, would they call them religious bums?

01:04:58.000 I'm as brown as a coconut from the beach.

01:05:00.000 I love the beach itself.

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01:08:11.000 I was just talking to Governor Ventura.

01:08:12.000 He might come in studio with us.

01:08:14.000 I've already had him down in Austin once.

01:08:16.000 Great guy.

01:08:19.000 When he's driving down I-35 in his RV in September or October to go down to Mexico.

01:08:24.000 And Jesse, you were telling me you've got a new t-shirt.

01:08:28.000 Well, that's enough information, Alex.

01:08:30.000 The listeners don't need to know no more than that.

01:08:33.000 Oh, you're a secret.

01:08:34.000 My new t-shirt that I wear now, it says, I got it down in the Baja.

01:08:38.000 It says, won't work for anything.

01:08:44.000 That's the lifestyle I'm living now.

01:08:46.000 I won't work for anything.

01:08:47.000 There's nothing that I can be offered that would require me to go to work and inspire me to do so, but there's a positive for that.

01:08:55.000 Since I don't want to work anymore, that means I won't be taking up a job from somebody who does.

01:09:01.000 Okay, I've got two more questions for them.

01:09:03.000 We're going to take calls for the ten or so minutes we have left with you.

01:09:05.000 Okay.

01:09:06.000 We appreciate all the time.

01:09:07.000 Make them easy so I can get to the callers.

01:09:09.000 Okay, well now this is a heavy question and I was sitting there at the beach with my family this weekend thinking about this interview and I wrote these notes.

01:09:17.000 What makes Jesse Ventura tick?

01:09:19.000 But more than that, I was sitting there with the sun setting, with the moon up, watching the Texas coastline.

01:09:27.000 And, you know, I was sitting there thinking, what is this planet?

01:09:30.000 You know, what is the sun, the moon?

01:09:31.000 We're in the middle of the galaxy in the universe, and we're these weird creatures, and we have children, and our lives are so short. 0.96

01:09:39.000 And we're nothing but parasites.

01:09:43.000 So I wanted to ask you... You've got to think about that, Alex. 0.70

01:09:45.000 We give nothing back.

01:09:46.000 We only use.

01:09:49.000 Well, I think that's what every life form does.

01:09:51.000 You'd see life itself as a parasite.

01:09:53.000 So I wanted to ask... But wait, we have no parasite that eats us?

01:09:58.000 Except ourselves?

01:09:59.000 Ourselves, the super predator class.

01:10:01.000 So that was my question.

01:10:02.000 What makes Jesse Ventura tick?

01:10:04.000 What do you think, you know, the end of the universe is?

01:10:08.000 What is this all about?

01:10:09.000 I don't know, you know, but I will just say this.

01:10:12.000 I feel very fortunate right now that I live in a place half the year Where two, two really ecological systems meet.

01:10:22.000 And that's the ocean and the desert.

01:10:24.000 And that's a very rare thing to be able to see these two meet.

01:10:28.000 And see the results of it.

01:10:31.000 And it's a remarkable life to live and watch it, and the pace of it, because even though the pace is very slow, it's constantly changing.

01:10:41.000 No day is ever the same.

01:10:43.000 Even though they may appear to be.

01:10:44.000 They're not.

01:10:47.000 And that, you know, right now, I like the solitude of that life, and I like the life of exploring simple things a little bit.

01:10:55.000 You know, I've been caught up all my whole career in front of crowds and in front of, you know, getting named notoriety and becoming quote-unquote this or that.

01:11:05.000 And at this point in my life, I strive for a much more solitude, quiet existence.

01:11:11.000 Well, you know, that's what I'm describing.

01:11:12.000 Don't get old, Alex.

01:11:14.000 And more than that, it's just experience.

01:11:16.000 It's that hierarchy of needs.

01:11:18.000 You've gotten fame and fortune and notoriety and been well-known and are more well-known today than ever, and so you don't need it as much.

01:11:25.000 And in my own little small way, I sure wanted to be successful and sure wanted to be the big radio host, and now that people know me everywhere I go, even other countries, and I can't imagine as much fame as you've got, in a way it's a blessing, but it's also a curse, so I actually constantly Wanderlust about, I wish I could go get lost on some forgotten seashore.

01:11:48.000 But then I feel sorry for... Well, the point is, Alex, you just have to do it.

01:11:53.000 When you decide to make the move, which I did after teaching at Harvard, I just felt, you know, the window of opportunity of adventures closing on me because of Father Time.

01:12:02.000 You know, you always remember that as an athlete, there's one opponent you'll never beat in the end, and that is time, no matter how great we all were at Harvard.

01:12:10.000 Time the Great Avenger.

01:12:12.000 You know, and so for me, it's a matter of just, you have to make a choice at some point, like I did, and go off on this adventure, and that's what I'm doing right now, and I'm not letting anything get in the way, and when I'm down there, I don't even pay attention to a lot of the things, you know, when I'm down there, I never hear the word terrorism.

01:12:34.000 It's weird.

01:12:35.000 And yet, when I come back to this country, not a day goes by that you don't hear that word.

01:12:40.000 Well, that's clearly being used to control us.

01:12:44.000 Well, it also creates a lifestyle of fear.

01:12:48.000 And the life that I lead, believe it or not, down deep in Mexico is a lifestyle of total unfear.

01:12:55.000 And there really is, the only fear is that you might get hit by a hurricane.

01:13:01.000 One of the locals think while coming stomping out of the dooms is Jesse Ventura.

01:13:07.000 They don't know me from anyone.

01:13:08.000 I'm just a big gringo that can't speak good Spanish.

01:13:12.000 That's all they know out of me because I don't dress in any provocative way when I'm down there.

01:13:19.000 I wear old blue jeans and t-shirts and I'm barefoot as much as I possibly can be.

01:13:25.000 And so I gained that freedom down there.

01:13:28.000 Even when I go to town, there's no one there in town that ever recognizes me.

01:13:33.000 I guess they don't watch Larry King and that stuff down there, so... But you're a character anywhere.

01:13:39.000 I mean, you would draw attention anywhere just because... No, not really.

01:13:42.000 Only because of the physical presence.

01:13:45.000 And many, many times I'm told, even by tourists that I run into down there, is that they don't recognize me until I speak.

01:13:52.000 So if I keep my big mouth shut, I can tend to stay anonymous a little bit.

01:13:56.000 You know what it is?

01:13:57.000 I think the image of you with the shaved head and the mustache is the more iconic one from the governor.

01:14:02.000 And it's probably the long hair.

01:14:05.000 It might be.

01:14:06.000 Wait till I go back to the dreadlocks and the beard again.

01:14:10.000 I rode my motorcycle that whole summer and was never once recognized on it all through Minnesota where I'd been governor a mere couple years before.

01:14:19.000 Sounds good to me.

01:14:21.000 Let's talk to... It's not the only thing they were doing where people were locking their doors at the stoplights.

01:14:25.000 Because they thought I looked so sinister.

01:14:30.000 Well, hey, you are a member of one of the more tough guys, sinister biking clubs, aren't you?

01:14:36.000 Well, I used to be years and years ago.

01:14:39.000 You know, I left in 1975.

01:14:41.000 I was part of the Black and White, which is the Mongols. 0.98

01:14:45.000 And we carry a bit of a reputation.

01:14:50.000 I don't know, but that was just another life that I decided when I came out of the Navy to try it out for a while.

01:14:57.000 Another adventure.

01:14:58.000 Another adventure, absolutely.

01:14:59.000 What's life without adventures, you know?

01:15:02.000 I don't want to, Alex, get to 75 and say woulda, coulda, shoulda.

01:15:06.000 I agree with you, absolutely.

01:15:07.000 That's what we like.

01:15:08.000 You've got to live life and go out there and experience things.

01:15:11.000 We're going to jam a few more calls in.

01:15:12.000 Quickly call us.

01:15:13.000 Absolutely.

01:15:14.000 Mark in Oregon.

01:15:14.000 Go ahead.

01:15:15.000 You're on the air with Jesse Ventura.

01:15:16.000 Go ahead.

01:15:17.000 Yeah, hello, Alex.

01:15:18.000 Hello, Governor Ventura.

01:15:19.000 Hi, Mark.

01:15:22.000 Governor, I have respect for you, and please don't think I don't, but, you know, I've been listening to this advertisement for the Obama deception film that Alex has made for Some months now, because Alex plays it regularly.

01:15:38.000 Okay, well listen, listen.

01:15:39.000 Call her, call her, call her. 1.00

01:15:42.000 Listen, I'm going to put you on hold, because it's about another film, and I don't want to get off into other stuff right now, you know, here on the air.

01:15:49.000 I want to just hurry through these calls.

01:15:51.000 Okay.

01:15:51.000 Okay, Mark, Mark.

01:15:52.000 Because I don't know the film, so I don't know how to tell you.

01:15:54.000 Yeah, let's go to Mark in Pennsylvania.

01:15:56.000 Mark in Pennsylvania, you're on the air.

01:15:57.000 Go ahead.

01:15:58.000 Hi, Mark.

01:16:00.000 Hello.

01:16:00.000 I'm very honored to be part of the show today.

01:16:03.000 Thank you very much.

01:16:04.000 Thank you, Mr. Ventura, for being a patriot and for being a guardian of the principles and ideas that this country was founded upon.

01:16:11.000 Well, I just like my freedom.

01:16:12.000 You know, I like to do what I like to do and be uninhibited doing it.

01:16:17.000 I have a couple of comments and then a question.

01:16:19.000 I saw the interview that you had on that girl's show during the daytime, and I would encourage you to challenge these commentators, these people, these hosts of these shows.

01:16:32.000 That put their money where their mouth is, you know?

01:16:34.000 It's just his point-blank is that, just, you know.

01:16:37.000 Yeah, you've got these little soft ninnies who've never lived anything and they're saying torture people. 1.00

01:16:42.000 It's so decadent and evil, Jesse.

01:16:44.000 Well, you've got to remember, too, though, you can't go on the shows and be a bull moose and a bull in the china shop, or you'll never get invited back, either. 0.74

01:16:54.000 You know, you can take a firm stand, but you've got to be cordial, you've got to play the game a little bit.

01:17:01.000 Because you can't just go in there.

01:17:03.000 The only person I do that with is Hannity. 0.96

01:17:06.000 Okay, gotta jump.

01:17:07.000 Thank you, Mark.

01:17:08.000 Solomon in Brazil.

01:17:10.000 Quick question or comment.

01:17:12.000 Good afternoon.

01:17:13.000 Greetings, Brother Jones.

01:17:14.000 I just want to let you know also that we internationally, we pay for the phone calls.

01:17:18.000 So, I was waiting for you patiently because I really like to interact with Brother Ventura.

01:17:24.000 Thank you very much, Brother Ventura, for your courage to speak out about some topics that no other retired military has spoken before.

01:17:31.000 I would like to make a comment and a short question to you.

01:17:35.000 You, as I, are familiar with the expression, once a Marine, always a Marine.

01:17:40.000 That is almost the same as, once a military, always a military.

01:17:44.000 Over here, like in other places around the world with dictatorship, they say that the difference between a civilian and a military is that a civilian Almost ever can be militarized, while a military almost never can be civilized.

01:17:57.000 My question is, how can I trust a former military will embrace their brothers and sisters in civilian life once retired?

01:18:05.000 Okay, I get the question.

01:18:07.000 I gotta let you go because we only got a minute left.

01:18:09.000 How can you trust someone who's in the military?

01:18:13.000 What about George Washington?

01:18:14.000 Well, I believe you can trust someone who's in the military just by talking to them and realize that They served in the military to protect the freedoms that we hold true.

01:18:25.000 You know, I remember during the war in Vietnam, I was asked at one point if they were going to march on the base.

01:18:31.000 And I refused.

01:18:32.000 I told them I won't go out there and beat up Americans. 0.99

01:18:35.000 That's ridiculous. 0.98

01:18:36.000 I will not do that. 0.89

01:18:37.000 That's a First Amendment right.

01:18:39.000 They have the right to protest.

01:18:40.000 Oh, really?

01:18:41.000 They asked you to go beat up people when you were in the military?

01:18:43.000 They didn't ask me to beat them up.

01:18:44.000 They just wanted me to stand watch.

01:18:47.000 And if these people pushed forward, well, what else would we be able to do?

01:18:51.000 And I didn't want to be in that position because I thought I didn't join the military to beat on Americans. 0.75

01:18:59.000 And what they did, how they covered, I didn't have duty that day.

01:19:02.000 So see how smart I was?

01:19:04.000 I got out of duty and could go to the beach.

01:19:08.000 Well, no, that's where it comes down to.

01:19:09.000 That's my madness always, Alex.

01:19:11.000 Well, you know, the military kills people and breaks things.

01:19:13.000 They don't police their own people.

01:19:15.000 Isn't that the very definition of a police state?

01:19:17.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:19:18.000 You know, our military should not be, and so just because you served in the military does not mean that you can't be trusted as a civilian because you chose to get out of the military.

01:19:30.000 I chose to after six years and certainly embraced being a civilian again.

01:19:35.000 Governor Ventura, let me say bye to you during the break.

01:19:37.000 That's it for the interview, but maybe in the next few months we can have you back on with news about the TV programs.

01:19:43.000 Okay, hopefully.

01:19:45.000 Absolutely.

01:19:46.000 Okay, stay right there, sir.

01:19:47.000 I want to say bye to you during the break.

01:19:48.000 We'll come back, take folks' calls, break into the new cyber security news, cover all of that.

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01:24:01.000 Look, I know I was going quickly through your calls.

01:24:12.000 That was because I wanted to get as many in as I could for Jesse Ventura.

01:24:15.000 Thank you.

01:24:17.000 Look, I have sent him articles, I've sent him films, and I have seen him wake up and then talk about those things on the news.

01:24:32.000 He's an influential guy because the media has him on a lot.

01:24:34.000 They find him interesting.

01:24:35.000 The public finds him interesting.

01:24:37.000 Multiple generations like him.

01:24:39.000 And so we are slowly educating him.

01:24:41.000 And he came out for 9-11 Truth on my show.

01:24:45.000 When I called to set him up for the show, he said, I'm going to come on your show.

01:24:47.000 I remember you giving me those videos.

01:24:48.000 And Austin and I have seen some more.

01:24:51.000 And I'm going to come on your show and break that I think they blew the towers up.

01:24:55.000 And you heard Ventura on this show break that.

01:24:58.000 Just like Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura and Rick Linklater and so many others have come on here and it's gotten news every time.

01:25:06.000 That was in the Associated Press, National News, you name it, when Willie Nelson came out.

01:25:11.000 And then it makes it kosher for other people to say, oh, 9-11's an inside job.

01:25:16.000 But I disagree with Ventura on quite a few issues.

01:25:18.000 But I think overall he's a good guy.

01:25:19.000 Plus, I know him in person.

01:25:20.000 And, oh, it doesn't matter.

01:25:28.000 Look, I want to go over cyber security in detail at the end of the show, and integrate it in with all this other news, and the thing that happened with General Motors going bankrupt, and the dollar plunging, it's just getting too insane.

01:25:40.000 But let's go to Mark in Oregon, who had a lengthy question, I think he was talking about my film, versus Ventura, and so let's go back to Mark.

01:25:48.000 Mark, go ahead.

01:25:49.000 Yeah, Alex, I was just going to say that You know, I've been listening to the Obama deception clip so many times, and of course Jesse Ventura has a very strong presence even in an audio sense, and he says that Obama has been fudging since day one of the election up to the presidency, and I assume that he includes the presidency as fudging.

01:26:13.000 But I see it as, if not disingenuous, just highly ironic and contradictory.

01:26:20.000 That he says he wants to give Obama a year to see how he's going to do when he must have seen the Obama deception by now.

01:26:28.000 He may be trying to protect his own life and his own family, and I respect that.

01:26:32.000 But people who have a public voice and who have fame, if they don't step out in front of the microphone at this point and expose the evil tyranny which is about to engulf us all, Alex, which is what the Infowars is all about, is to try to expose this.

01:26:48.000 this tyranny that they want to put on us, and they're so close to it.

01:26:51.000 And I know that because I follow you very closely, and you have all of the accurate information which proves that and shows that so clearly.

01:26:59.000 No, no, I hear you, and I figured that it was a long point.

01:27:03.000 That's why I held you over.

01:27:04.000 And I appreciate your call.

01:27:06.000 I mean, what do I say to that?

01:27:07.000 Ventura came out and said he's already fudging about the war.

01:27:11.000 He's fudging about all these things.

01:27:14.000 And then now he realizes Obama's popular and that I've talked to him privately too.

01:27:22.000 He doesn't want to be premature in really going after Obama, but I'm sure you're going to see him criticized.

01:27:27.000 I mean, you heard him say the Democrats are all bad, too.

01:27:31.000 Don't vote for any of them.

01:27:32.000 I didn't vote for any of them.

01:27:34.000 I just think that, well, I heard him on Fox say, I hate Bush so much that anything's better.

01:27:40.000 But see, that's a lie. 0.99

01:27:41.000 Bush was obviously arrogant, obviously bad, obviously corrupt. 0.95

01:27:45.000 He wasn't a good salesman like Obama, who's slick and charismatic. 0.99

01:27:51.000 He's much more dangerous.

01:27:52.000 You know, we had a caller before Ventura came on.

01:27:55.000 Well, I didn't really comment back to, because I knew they'd just gotten Ventura on right when I went to his call.

01:28:01.000 Ventura was on a little bit earlier than he was supposed to be, which is fine.

01:28:05.000 We just had more time with him.

01:28:06.000 The caller's like, I think you're secretly a right winger and you really like George Bush and that's why you, you know, criticize Obama and not George Bush. 0.99

01:28:16.000 And that's just asinine. 0.79

01:28:18.000 I mean, I went on air when George Bush had a 90 plus percent approval rating. 0.91

01:28:24.000 Largest in U.S.

01:28:25.000 history.

01:28:26.000 And I said, the people controlling him staged the 9-11 attacks.

01:28:30.000 When no other host was saying that or doing that.

01:28:33.000 And I was attacked on this network by other talk show hosts.

01:28:36.000 And I had people, George Humphrey's a really nice TV producer, nice lady, got in my face and cussed at me.

01:28:42.000 The night after 9-11, my show was on after theirs and she was there and she got in my face and cussed me out. 1.00

01:28:50.000 And a couple years later was running George's show and never apologized when he was doing 9-11 Truth.

01:28:56.000 You know, I mean, I've got to be there first, folks.

01:28:59.000 I'm always there saying the hard things that need to be said.

01:29:02.000 And I detest George Bush and his handlers, Dick Cheney and Karl Rove. 0.99

01:29:09.000 And it's wrong and mentally ill when all those fake mainline right-wingers were calling me a hardcore communist and a Taliban sympathizer and I was secretly trained in Taliban camps and all this made-up crap. 0.99

01:29:22.000 To then, when Obama comes out, and I say, my gosh, this guy is the worst thing that we've ever seen, because he is slick, and they go, oh, you're just a right winger. 0.99

01:29:29.000 You're so desperate to hold on to your left-right paradigm that you've got to put me in it and make me part of it.

01:29:35.000 Just look, hate me, love me, whatever, just don't put me in that.

01:29:38.000 Don't, don't, don't, you know, don't tell me what I think and what I believe and who I am.

01:29:44.000 All right, stay with us.

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01:33:30.000 They told it like it is.

01:33:32.000 Cyber security, the new direction of the Pentagon.

01:33:36.000 They're saying everything is cyber, everything is internet, everything is computer, everything is hacking computers, everything is loading viruses onto printers that they gave the Iraqis in the months before the invasion in 1991, 1990.

01:33:50.000 This is the control grid.

01:33:54.000 This is the master control system.

01:33:57.000 And I I filled up almost an entire booklet this weekend of ideas and points I wanted to make about this and I tend to get off into other news and start taking calls and having guests on and not getting to all this properly because I don't want to just cover a piece of it.

01:34:16.000 I want to cover every piece of it that I see and then every pre-programmed response.

01:34:22.000 Like earlier, I've tried to get into this twice today and then run out of time.

01:34:26.000 And I just get up to the point of, yes, they're announcing this is the power to shut the internet off.

01:34:31.000 Yes, they're saying they're going to filter.

01:34:33.000 Yes, they're saying they're going to restrict.

01:34:35.000 You know, just so when I talk about this and people are listening or watching at PrisonPlanet.tv or a year from now watching this, you know, when it's got a million views on the internet somewhere, if we still have the web, That I can counter, that's why I'm successful, I can counter every preconditioned piece of disinfo they have if I take the time out to do it.

01:34:57.000 Because I know the first thing, when I get up here on air and say, they're openly announcing they want to be able to shut the internet down.

01:35:03.000 They're not shutting it down, that's impossible!

01:35:05.000 They are saying they want the power to be able to shut it down, that they're going to tax it and regulate it and track everything you do, and make you have subdomains on other people's sites, and get rid of the free internet as we know it, and yes, if they take over all the major hubs, yes they can do it.

01:35:23.000 And then I can get into all the evidence, but there's just so much denial.

01:35:27.000 I mean, I had people up until last week denying GM was going to go bankrupt.

01:35:31.000 When I told you two and a half years ago it was.

01:35:34.000 I think I need to hire just an employee to go through all our videos and articles and shows just to toot our horn.

01:35:42.000 Because that's what matters.

01:35:43.000 That is effective.

01:35:45.000 Here's Lindsey Williams, and he got it from a separate source, former head of an oil company, going around saying, Nine, ten months ago that oil for at least the next six to eight months was going to drop below $50 a barrel when it was at $149 a barrel.

01:36:01.000 That sounded insane.

01:36:02.000 It happened.

01:36:06.000 And then a listener pointed out, hey, Paul Watson wrote a Bilderberg Group article.

01:36:10.000 Jim Tucker said his Bilderberg sources said they were going to cut the price of oil by at least half.

01:36:15.000 That sounded crazy in 2008 and June, a year ago.

01:36:20.000 Just a year ago it sounded like it was $149 a barrel.

01:36:22.000 It sounded insane!

01:36:24.000 And it turns out we're the source of all that.

01:36:27.000 The source of the revelations.

01:36:28.000 PrisonPlanet.com.

01:36:30.000 We're that exclusive with Jim Tucker and we don't even know we predicted it!

01:36:34.000 Like everything else!

01:36:36.000 I mean, we know their exact plan!

01:36:38.000 That's why they're attacking me everywhere and going after me. 0.89

01:36:41.000 With asinine attacks in mainstream media and Alternative and everywhere else.

01:36:46.000 Because they know we've hit on what's accurate.

01:36:48.000 And it takes me realizing just how important the issues are I'm talking about.

01:36:55.000 Will you call Rob Dewin here?

01:36:56.000 I want to ask who's on the show tomorrow, because I know I've told a bunch of guests I want on, and I may just cancel some of them.

01:37:01.000 Will you call Dewin here?

01:37:01.000 I want to decide right now.

01:37:04.000 Because I may just do four hours with no calls, no guests, no nothing, to go over all my notes and things I want to cover.

01:37:10.000 Because it's exhaust... I'm not whining, but it just is.

01:37:13.000 It's psychologically and intellectually exhausting to... Now is it lunch?

01:37:22.000 Yeah, well you just, since Deuce is gone, will you go look at tomorrow's schedule and just tell me who's on tomorrow?

01:37:28.000 Thanks.

01:37:30.000 Cause I don't want to make an announcement that I'm going to do a whole show on one thing tomorrow and then not do it.

01:37:37.000 Or then some new horrid thing will happen tomorrow.

01:37:39.000 Let me just do this as simply as I can.

01:37:51.000 I'll do a simple synopsis tomorrow.

01:37:53.000 I printed a bunch of articles up to back all this up and then we'll uh, We'll detail it all tomorrow, at least one hour of the show, plus the economy and the bankers and killing the dollar openly.

01:38:06.000 I mean, it's all happening.

01:38:08.000 They're openly raping us. 0.98

01:38:09.000 Come on in, Douglas. 0.98

01:38:14.000 Rivero and Tarpley, those are good guests.

01:38:16.000 I'm not going to cancel them.

01:38:19.000 What times are they on?

01:38:20.000 Rivero will be at noon.

01:38:28.000 Why is he on at 12.15?

01:38:29.000 He's supposed to be on at 12.

01:38:33.000 Oh, C'est La Vie, it doesn't matter.

01:38:35.000 Okay, whatever.

01:38:36.000 I'll do it in the first hour then.

01:38:38.000 But I'm going to do it right now to an abbreviated version.

01:38:42.000 After I tell you about who makes this radio show possible, number one, we're going to have the Money Bomb, June 11th.

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01:39:02.000 Helped us set up this prisonplanet.tv system that you're seeing right now.

01:39:09.000 And took us to that level.

01:39:13.000 If we could raise another $250,000, I could hire a couple more video people and get the space next to us and do the TV thing properly.

01:39:22.000 If not, I'll do it on the cheaps. 0.98

01:39:24.000 But we have had something like $30,000 pledged so far, or actually given.

01:39:28.000 You can enter your email there to pledge.

01:39:31.000 You can stay in contact with us.

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01:39:43.000 And we just asked folks on June 11th to donate, whether it's $5 or $1,000, and 100% of the Money Bomb money will go towards buying new equipment and personnel and what we need to do here.

01:39:57.000 And believe me, I almost don't want to take on more responsibilities, but other people aren't doing it, so we've got to go to the next level and do it.

01:40:06.000 And I've been trying to put more things out, like the new Aaron Russo video that's now out at PrisonPlanet.tv and ships on DVD in two days, June 3rd.

01:40:14.000 Order that at InfoWars.com.

01:40:16.000 We're putting out the monthly best of with the InfoWars arsenal.

01:40:24.000 I mean, we're trying to make more films, trying to make three or four films a year instead of two films a year.

01:40:28.000 I'm trying to do everything I can do.

01:40:31.000 As best I can because I know we're reaching people.

01:40:34.000 I went down and got a little cabin in Port Aransas for three days with my wife and children and I rented one of those golf carts with a little lawnmower engine in it to put around at 10 miles an hour on the beach and the beach was totally packed just cars end to end and I would drive with my children And every fifth vehicle, they'd go, Alex Jones!

01:40:57.000 Alex Jones!

01:40:58.000 As I rode down the beach, and my wife was like, this is incredible.

01:41:02.000 And then, three places we went to eat.

01:41:06.000 The waiter, and the manager, and the hostess were all fans.

01:41:12.000 One place called Pelican Landing, yesterday as we're leaving town eating lunch to drive back to Austin, I'm like, my God, everybody's awake down here.

01:41:21.000 There were people down there visiting from New England who were listeners.

01:41:23.000 And I'd be riding down the beach and black people would be waving, Alex Jones, hi, we're big fans.

01:41:29.000 People with mohawks, hey, Alex Jones, we're big fans.

01:41:33.000 And I was just like, my God, I'm just little Alex Jones.

01:41:36.000 And I'm down here at Port Aransas at the start of the big beach season, Absolute heaven, baking sun.

01:41:42.000 I mean, I just... I swim around in the ocean all day.

01:41:45.000 The water... I could say I visited the Caribbean this weekend.

01:41:52.000 But I didn't.

01:41:52.000 I visited the Gulf of Mexico.

01:41:54.000 I've never seen the Gulf this clear.

01:41:56.000 I swam out 500 yards or so onto the jetty.

01:42:00.000 Because I get there at the jetty to crab fish and there's scuba divers everywhere going, I'm seeing Spanish mackerel and sergeant fish and...

01:42:09.000 Sharks!

01:42:10.000 And people were catching sharks.

01:42:12.000 And I went to the store, bought a cheap mask and snorkel.

01:42:15.000 There were jellyfish.

01:42:15.000 I didn't care.

01:42:16.000 You couldn't keep me out of clear water.

01:42:18.000 I jumped in that and skin-dived for hours. 0.93

01:42:22.000 The jetty.

01:42:23.000 It was absolute heaven.

01:42:25.000 Been going to that jetty since I was a little kid.

01:42:27.000 And it's not dirty water.

01:42:29.000 It's just sandy and churning.

01:42:30.000 And it was amazing.

01:42:32.000 I mean, to dive the Port Aransas jetty was a real treat.

01:42:38.000 Plus it's like an actual adventure thing.

01:42:40.000 You've got jellyfish all around you and you're dodging them, the big stinging kind.

01:42:44.000 People call me crazy, but it was fun.

01:42:45.000 Because they all had wetsuits on and thought I was nuts.

01:42:47.000 And I did.

01:42:48.000 I saw Spanish mackerel, big old crabs walking across the bottom.

01:42:52.000 Because it's a different type of beach to skin dive than the Caribbean.

01:42:58.000 You go to the Caribbean and you snorkel and stuff.

01:43:02.000 See, I'm already digressing.

01:43:04.000 Folks, I don't want to cover the cybersecurity.

01:43:06.000 I don't want to have my head hurt.

01:43:09.000 I mean, it's so bad, the total takeover of society.

01:43:12.000 They're openly announcing the end of free speech everywhere, and I got my own listeners emailing me saying it's impossible to shut the web down.

01:43:19.000 They shut down five or six of the peer-to-peer systems, it's over.

01:43:23.000 China, you can't get most patriot websites in China.

01:43:29.000 You can't get my websites off government wireless systems in England.

01:43:33.000 I mean, of course they can censor the internet.

01:43:36.000 Yahoo and Google do it for China and other countries all over the world.

01:43:39.000 Australia is announcing they're shutting down free speech.

01:43:42.000 In fact, for those who don't believe it, search engine and put on screen Australia to implement Chinese-style internet censorship.

01:43:52.000 Australia-Chinese-style net censorship.

01:43:54.000 And you will see them announcing it, the government saying that, and saying censorship is good of the internet.

01:44:03.000 This is the type of stuff we have going on.

01:44:06.000 So I'm going to get into that in a moment.

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01:46:19.000 Okay, um, tomorrow in the first hour, I will exclusively cover cyber security.

01:46:29.000 You know, maybe the answer is, maybe I should come up here tonight, 9 to midnight, with Burmess.

01:46:34.000 Why don't you call Jason in here real quick?

01:46:38.000 I know a lot of stations don't carry that show, though.

01:46:40.000 People want to hear it.

01:46:41.000 Because I could do five hours on this, and the show's filled, uh, Tomorrow, except for the first hour, I've got Webster Tarpley.

01:46:47.000 I haven't had him in months.

01:46:49.000 I want to see what he has to say.

01:46:51.000 Everybody's at lunch around here.

01:46:53.000 here.

01:46:53.000 Well, it is lunchtime, I guess.

01:46:58.000 Oh! 0.60

01:47:00.000 Yeah, I'll just come in tomorrow and do it.

01:47:05.000 So, See, I hesitate on all this.

01:47:12.000 Like, I've been doing a lot of thinking about the nature of man, the nature of the universe, the nature of our species, our history, what we are, what we're meant to do.

01:47:19.000 It's mind-blowing revelations of research and of understanding and everything that I've been having.

01:47:26.000 Just amazing.

01:47:26.000 But then I want to articulate it properly.

01:47:32.000 Yeah, I'm finishing up a book, The Answer in 1984, 1776, and I've got to lock myself in the office in here this week and next week to finish it.

01:47:44.000 And the book telegraphs a lot of these ideas, but not all of them.

01:47:50.000 I want to move slowly on air.

01:47:52.000 I want to diagram and blueprint everything and show the interconnections almost like a college course so it's done and I can say there it is.

01:48:01.000 That's how they operate.

01:48:02.000 That's how I understand what they're doing.

01:48:07.000 But simply put, you know the Feds want RFID tracker chips in all products, and you know that they listen to all the cell phones and regular phone calls and emails and faxes under federal law, and that's now been admitted.

01:48:19.000 And you know that they're announcing they want cyber security to save us from Al-Qaeda and the Russians and the Chinese supposedly attacking the Internet. 0.95

01:48:27.000 And then, I see all these articles where the Pentagon, cyber security in San Antonio has meetings and says, Oh, we're attacking our own networks to test feasibility and then we tell the public we've been hit by the Russians as a pretext to get this passed?

01:48:43.000 It's completely immoral, out in the open.

01:48:45.000 I've got all those articles.

01:48:47.000 And I can't even get the public to the point of being able to understand that or admit that, because they're too busy emailing me saying it's impossible to shut the web down.

01:48:57.000 Well, here's Mother Jones. 0.99

01:48:59.000 Should Obama control the internet?

01:49:01.000 Should President Obama have the power to shut down domestic internet traffic during a state of emergency?

01:49:05.000 And that's what, three months ago, the head of cybersecurity that they hired quit and said, this is a government Pentagon takeover, the web has shut it down, and to end the freedom on it.

01:49:13.000 I mean, he's on record!

01:49:16.000 This is the guy the White House hired, boldly comes out with courage, I'm surprised he hasn't committed suicide, tells you it's a police state, and the thumbsuckers are emailing me saying it isn't real!

01:49:27.000 Of course it's real!

01:49:28.000 Just like two and a half years ago we read articles where they were planning to shut down General Motors and ship it to China and Brazil!

01:49:34.000 And now it's gonna happen in front of your eyes!

01:49:38.000 This isn't a frickin' game, people!

01:49:41.000 This is the end of our republic!

01:49:43.000 Senators John Rockefeller and Olympia Snowe think so, that the web should be shut down.

01:49:48.000 On Wednesday they introduced a bill establishing the Office of National Cyber Security.

01:49:52.000 Here's another one.

01:49:59.000 And this is by federal law stated in the bill.

01:50:04.000 Go read it, we're linked to it.

01:50:05.000 Read it instead of saying it in real.

01:50:07.000 Face it!

01:50:08.000 We're not in Kansas anymore.

01:50:10.000 They say that they will go in and even small ISPs will have government switches on them and everything has to be wired through the government equipment.

01:50:19.000 That's the Telecommunications Act of 1996 where it said all phone companies and all telecommunications and all internet have to be wired through our equipment and they built whole floors or whole buildings next door to every phone company hub Publicly, with everything wired to the NSA, and I made films ten years ago telling you that, because I had the Telecommunications Act, and then they come out last year, San Francisco control room, everything goes through it, and there's boxes like this all over the country.

01:50:48.000 And they go, well how did they know?

01:50:50.000 They knew because the engineers knew what they were designing for the NSA to then only have keys to the door.

01:50:55.000 But we knew from the Telecommunications Act, it stated what it was! 0.98

01:51:00.000 None of this crap's secret, stay with us. 0.93

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01:54:07.000 E me pintaba las maras.

01:54:11.000 All right, tomorrow I will in full detail cybersecurity framework for total government regulation and control of our lives.

01:54:30.000 This is Pentagon designed, MIT designed and controlled, NORTHCOM implemented openly.

01:54:35.000 The military openly runs it over everything you do.

01:54:39.000 Tracking everywhere, tied in with red light cameras, face scanning cameras, thumb scanning to buy and sell, school lunch programs.

01:54:46.000 This is a total cashless grid, no buying or selling, if you're not in good favor with them.

01:54:51.000 This is a global straitjacket, a global control system.

01:54:56.000 And they openly announce it, has nothing to do with your security, it's another war on liberties and freedom.

01:55:01.000 I want to talk to Paul in Ireland.

01:55:03.000 Paul in Ireland, you're on the air.

01:55:05.000 Hello, Alex.

01:55:08.000 Yes, sir.

01:55:10.000 I have been listening to you for a couple of years.

01:55:15.000 I first heard about you after 9-11.

01:55:18.000 I had been completely taken in by the government's story about what happened for the attacks of 9-11.

01:55:30.000 A couple of years later, I heard what you said, and I checked out every piece of evidence, and everything I checked out Was true.

01:55:47.000 And then I knew that you were telling the whole truth.

01:55:53.000 Well, thank you, sir.

01:55:55.000 We try to tell the truth.

01:55:56.000 I'm not perfect, but our track record is we've been pretty darn good at breaking down what's happening.

01:56:03.000 You know what's happening in Europe now?

01:56:05.000 We're having European elections.

01:56:07.000 And Ireland, they tried to force Ireland to accept the Constitution.

01:56:15.000 Yeah, I mean, you said no last year to being taken over by the EU, so they're back again.

01:56:23.000 The Lisbon Treaty.

01:56:25.000 That's right.

01:56:26.000 It always happens the same way, that if the people will vote against it, they will try to force the people Exactly.

01:56:35.000 God bless you from Ireland.

01:56:37.000 Call me back tomorrow.

01:56:38.000 We'll have more time.

01:56:39.000 I wanted to, and I'm sorry to everybody else, we'll get to you tomorrow, live, 11 to 3, Central Standard Time.

01:56:44.000 Webster Tarpley and Mike Rivera, always informative.

01:56:47.000 They'll be on the show.

01:56:47.000 I want to get into the collapse of General Motors.

01:56:50.000 By design, we told you two and a half years ago, Bob Chapman wrote two and a half years ago, they were going to break it down and move it to China.

01:56:58.000 They're now going to use the bailout money to move it to China and places.

01:57:02.000 The globalists are debasing the currency to the point that Geithner had to go before the Chinese.

01:57:07.000 That's in Reuters today.

01:57:09.000 Trying to find my article.

01:57:10.000 Geithner had to go before him and say, look, don't worry, you know, your money's safe in dollars.

01:57:16.000 The whole world is moving away from dollars right now.

01:57:19.000 I wanted to bring Jim Newcomer up.

01:57:20.000 Here it is.

01:57:21.000 Geithner tells China its dollar assets are safe.

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01:57:29.000 Before it goes up again, get involved.

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01:57:42.000 The $10 Liberty at $8.1850.

01:57:45.000 We still have the Lakota Silver Rounds at $21.72.

01:57:49.000 They're $4.3440 a roll, and that's still a steal.

01:57:52.000 That's a good buy.

01:57:54.000 We're also representing the Walking Liberty, half dollars.

01:57:57.000 We have those back at $9.18 apiece.

01:57:59.000 The per roll price is $183.60, the British Sovereign at $285.93, and the French or 20 Franc coin at $231.50.

01:58:07.000 That's French, Belgian, or Swiss.

01:58:10.000 Yeah, that half dollar on silver is the best deal there in my opinion, and so are those Sovereigns and European Francs.

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01:58:16.000 800-686-2237. 800-686-2237.

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01:58:31.000 Thank you, Jim Newcomer.

01:58:34.000 You bet.

01:58:36.000 All right, and they're there right now.

01:58:38.000 All right, retransmission with Jesse Ventura and a lot more starts now.

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