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00:00:35.000 We're now into the second hour of this Friday edition, the 19th day of June 2009.

00:00:41.000 Bob Chapman with us for the next hour.

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00:01:07.000 I've been ranting and raving the last three days because they've now unveiled, and it's worse than I first thought it would be, I knew the banks had gotten unlimited power to loot and steal, but now it says to seize any corporation, any company, take over the nation, that they're implementing the executive orders Already in place for economic martial law.

00:01:26.000 I'm going to go over some of those executive orders this hour.

00:01:29.000 And they're using the swine flu as another cover for that.

00:01:32.000 But Ron Paul has said this is a financial dictatorship.

00:01:34.000 He agrees with me.

00:01:37.000 He has now come out and pointed out that the Federal Reserve is to get more power than even Congress under this new system.

00:01:44.000 So they engineer the crisis, get unlimited money, now they want the power to seize not just GM and Ford and Chrysler, but factories, restaurants, businesses, dealerships, and then they admit that the Democratic Party mainly keeps the dealerships they want and sells the others and gives them to friends.

00:02:02.000 I mean, this is Happening faster than I even thought it could.

00:02:07.000 Bob Chapman, of course, was in military intelligence in Berlin.

00:02:12.000 We got out of the military.

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00:02:17.000 He had one of the largest newsletters and he retired.

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00:02:27.000 Bob, This is getting even crazier quicker than I thought.

00:02:32.000 Can you break down what this new quote regulatory overhaul is?

00:02:36.000 Well, I think what they want to do here is be able to control all forms of financial machinations, if you may.

00:02:50.000 Anything that has to do with money.

00:02:54.000 And what I think they're going to do is, if they can get away with it, And there's a lot of resistance in Congress, and that's borne out by the numbers I received yesterday on HR 1207, which is Ron Paul's bill to audit the Federal Reserve.

00:03:16.000 I understand it's 258 co-sponsors.

00:03:21.000 And that means that there's a lot of people in Congress, even though Five or ten percent of their campaign contributions come from Wall Street banking, insurance, etc.

00:03:36.000 I think they're under so much pressure from the public, not only their constituents, but others who are writing them, that this is a phenomenal amount of co-sponsors.

00:03:47.000 So I do not think they're going to get through this proposed rule changes so that The Federal Reserve can become a monster money czar, if you want to call it that.

00:04:03.000 They like that word czar very much.

00:04:05.000 I think they've created about 14 or 15 of them.

00:04:09.000 Anyway, I also want to refer here to your report on Prison Planet.

00:04:15.000 Obama regulatory reform plan officially establishes banking dictatorship in the United States.

00:04:22.000 And it's really terrific.

00:04:23.000 It's kind of like an outline.

00:04:25.000 And for those of you who haven't seen it, please go and take a look at it.

00:04:29.000 It's dated June 18th, which was yesterday.

00:04:35.000 Well, Bob, break down why, from your perspective, why it's so important.

00:04:38.000 And also, you were in intelligence in Berlin.

00:04:42.000 They're now admitting the CIA is hiring domestic bankers to go out and help set up this financial dictatorship, because if they can control the economy and the money, they're going to control everything, and this is their tool to bring in their New World Order.

00:04:55.000 So I want to break that down and how we defeat it, how we fight back against it, with Bob Chapman on the other side of this quick break.

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00:08:39.000 Going back to Bob.

00:08:41.000 Bob, for stations that just joined us, we were going over Obama regulatory reform plan officially establishes banking dictatorship in the United States.

00:08:50.000 In a few minutes I'm going to play a short Ron Paul clip where he says, yes, the banks will have more authority under this than Congress.

00:08:58.000 And the way the bill reads, even the LA Times admitted that it gives them power over anything connected to the economy Any market, any company, from a hot dog stand, to a bank, to an insurance company, and you were getting into our article from prisonplanet.com, Obama regulatory reform plan officially establishes banking dictatorship in the United States.

00:09:20.000 Is it that it's so big and so over-the-top, people have trouble realizing the magnitude of the very banks that engineered the crisis, that have stolen tens of trillions, they now Not only won't tell us where the money went, but they are going to be the regulators of themselves and over the rest of Main Street.

00:09:41.000 They've already devastated.

00:09:44.000 This is a form of dictatorship.

00:09:46.000 There's no question.

00:09:48.000 The important things are that there is no control whatsoever by Congress, which you've mentioned, and it is a private corporation.

00:09:57.000 They refuse to answer government subpoenas.

00:10:01.000 They say that it's state secret when asked about what they're doing.

00:10:05.000 And that's why Ron Paul's bill is so important.

00:10:08.000 We can cut this whole thing off at the pass if that bill is passed.

00:10:13.000 And it certainly stands a great chance in the House of Passing.

00:10:19.000 One of the things that I thought of in regard to this, which sort of meshes what you were talking about earlier about the hiring of people

00:10:30.000 Before the CIA to go into economic and financial matters, I think that at this time, the Treasury Department, in conjunction with the Fed, and the people who control our government from behind the scenes, they are making this move in behalf of the Fed now as an offense

00:10:58.000 In a defensive manner because of what's going on in Congress.

00:11:02.000 What they want to say is, well, we want the Fed to be able to handle these things and you want to audit it or shut it down.

00:11:12.000 And we can't have that because it's so crucial.

00:11:15.000 This is what they're up to here.

00:11:16.000 I was about to ask you that.

00:11:17.000 This looks like kind of a fleeing forward or asking for the moon because they're under attack.

00:11:24.000 People are saying we're going to audit you.

00:11:25.000 There are subpoenas from Congress.

00:11:27.000 They're refusing those subpoenas from Congress.

00:11:30.000 So really this constitutional crisis is forming.

00:11:32.000 There shouldn't be a crisis.

00:11:34.000 This isn't the president refusing subpoenas.

00:11:36.000 This is a private offshore bank That's getting all these public funds saying you can't look at what we're doing after promising the public it would all be transparent.

00:11:45.000 Their ace in the hole is they own the president and they own the military industrial complex.

00:11:50.000 You know, so speak to that, but then also we have Mr. Perkins, who wrote Confessions of an Economic Hitman, and I've actually interviewed him now for the next Obama film coming out, John Perkins.

00:12:03.000 And Mr. Perkins was hired by the NSA and the CIA, top of his class, family and all these big corporations.

00:12:10.000 He was sent in, he would be given orders by army generals.

00:12:15.000 That's exactly right.

00:12:15.000 Exactly right.

00:12:16.000 And that's what all of that recruiting is all about.

00:12:18.000 They want to use these people against us.

00:12:20.000 old do the same thing.

00:12:21.000 And now Reuters says the CIA is going to operate inside the U.S. and is hiring all these out-of-work bankers to make sure we are all under economic slavery, Bob.

00:12:31.000 That's exactly right.

00:12:34.000 Exactly right.

00:12:36.000 And that's what all of that recruiting is all about.

00:12:39.000 They want to use these people against us.

00:12:42.000 One of the things that's behind this, and incidentally, to just go a little bit further on their recruiting, but further than that, is what they're up to here is this is pure psychological warfare.

00:12:59.000 Right.

00:13:00.000 That's exactly what it is.

00:13:02.000 They know that the House is going to vote for this bill.

00:13:06.000 I don't know what the Senate will do, but I assume perhaps they will as well.

00:13:11.000 And in order to cut that off, what they're trying to do is say, We can't allow the Fed to be audited or tampered with in any way because it's too important and so on and so forth.

00:13:24.000 This is the CyWar aspects of it. 0.99

00:13:26.000 Yeah, we're in the middle of a crisis.

00:13:29.000 If you audit the Fed, they're already saying this, it's going to cause a depression.

00:13:33.000 They've hired this big lobbying firm, and we now see their branding.

00:13:37.000 If you audit us, it'll destroy confidence and we'll have a depression.

00:13:40.000 And we're going into a depression.

00:13:42.000 That way, even if we get the audit, they'll blame us for the depression they engineered.

00:13:48.000 That's correct.

00:13:49.000 And, of course, anybody who has any financial background whatsoever Looks at this thing and says, I mean, these are the guys that caused this thing.

00:13:58.000 How can we allow them to take us out of it? 0.77

00:14:01.000 And which is ridiculous.

00:14:04.000 But anyway, the recruiting is for, to do exactly as you said, but it goes one step further.

00:14:11.000 The concept behind the thought patent of the elitists is that all the money in America, all the wealth in the world for that matter, belongs to them.

00:14:25.000 It does not belong to you.

00:14:27.000 You have it on a temporary basis.

00:14:30.000 And so consequently, I think that what they're going to do eventually, and other countries will follow, they will probably set up currency controls of some kind, not right away, in the future, maybe two or three years down the line, when inflation is going bonkers again.

00:14:49.000 But these are some of the things Well, that's what they're announcing.

00:14:52.000 They're saying in Australia they're going to make people go to chips.

00:14:55.000 No more cash.

00:14:57.000 Even if you use cash here, it's going to be tied to a thumb print or a face print to quote, stop the underground economy.

00:15:03.000 And this really is a worldwide financial dictatorship run by intelligence agents.

00:15:10.000 Bob, back when you were in intelligence, before you got into finance, Uh, you know, they told you guys you were doing what you were doing, fighting the dirty commies. 0.96

00:15:19.000 And, you know, there was some truth to that.

00:15:21.000 But now, how are they going to recruit these bankers and people to go around butchering America and forcibly taking over corporations?

00:15:28.000 I mean, they're saying the Fed is going to go in and reorganize the economy and grab whatever industries they want, where basically only select Well, usually, unfortunately, they draw some of the best people.

00:15:41.000 much less prosper. 0.99

00:15:43.000 I mean, the people that are being recruited by CIA, are they either idiots or are they just outright evil and are going to enjoy being able to go out and commit crime? 0.99

00:15:53.000 Well, usually, unfortunately, they draw some of the best people. 0.98

00:15:59.000 And my experience with the people that I was involved with, they were all extraordinarily bright.

00:16:07.000 But at that time, we didn't have the things going on that we have today And today, there are not jobs out there for people who are sometimes double and triple degreed.

00:16:19.000 And so out of the fact that they can't get a job anywhere that's decent, if the CIA offers them a good position, they're going to take it.

00:16:30.000 Because they're going to say, if I don't take it, I'm not going to eat.

00:16:35.000 And so they take our tax money and then hire economic goons to literally go around and blow out what's left of U.S.

00:16:41.000 companies so they can be looted off to the internationalists. 0.99

00:16:45.000 I mean, that's what's happening, Bob.

00:16:47.000 That's right.

00:16:48.000 And the police in America, with this federalization, are in the same bag.

00:16:53.000 I mean, hey, they quit their job and become part of the program.

00:16:58.000 This is how they capture people.

00:17:00.000 And, you know, unless you want to leave your job, there's no way out.

00:17:04.000 You've got to stay and do the dirty work of the bad guys.

00:17:09.000 My God, Bob.

00:17:11.000 They're announcing unemployment numbers exploding, housing prices plunging even faster.

00:17:17.000 The Fed coming out and saying, forget having a Bank of the World, they're still going to have that, and global currency controls, and global interest rate controls, and setting global taxes to stop tax avoidance havens, as the OECD says.

00:17:32.000 Can you explain to people what it means that the Fed is jumping directly two or three pieces to the endgame immediately?

00:17:42.000 I didn't see that happening.

00:17:44.000 I didn't either.

00:17:47.000 I was really shocked that they went this way, in this offensive way, as a defense.

00:17:54.000 But, you know, in psychological warfare, this is the kind of thing that you do.

00:17:59.000 And what they're asking for is U.S.

00:18:02.000 and then probably world financial domination.

00:18:05.000 And you're absolutely right.

00:18:08.000 And, you know, you talk about these offshore accounts.

00:18:11.000 The U.S.

00:18:12.000 Treasury has had, as well as the Fed, do have Secret offshore accounts.

00:18:19.000 And they go through the American system, like in the bond market, and they will buy bonds, and we can't tell what they're doing at because we can't investigate them.

00:18:30.000 If this bill passed, we can.

00:18:31.000 We can find out what they're doing.

00:18:33.000 And then you run into money laundering.

00:18:35.000 There's all sorts Of real horrible things are going to be exposed.

00:18:41.000 You think we'd find something a thousand times, a hundred times worse than Madoff and others if we ever audited the Fed, Bob?

00:18:48.000 Absolutely.

00:18:49.000 And incidentally, now that you bring up Mr. Madoff, and that sort of, that was a scam, not a Ponzi scheme.

00:18:59.000 I have to refer to Mr. Greenberg, who was the head of AIG, and he testified yesterday.

00:19:08.000 And when he essentially stole the stock in the company and put it into star investments from AIG, he hired a jet with guards and they took the certificates of AIG stock and put them in offshore accounts.

00:19:28.000 Now you hear about these offshore accounts and you hear about the U.S.

00:19:32.000 government running all over the place trying to find out who's got them.

00:19:37.000 And they don't touch top members of the Illuminati.

00:19:41.000 That's right, you got the big kingpins, and they'll fry a few mid-level ones to pacify the public, while meanwhile they're testifying in Congress that they're stealing everything blind, right in front of everybody.

00:19:52.000 That's like the Pentagon, when they said, you got two trillion missing, and they said, yeah, I can tell you where it is.

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00:24:25.000 Bob Chapman, I'm sure you saw the ACLU letter and even mainstream news outlets reporting the incredible headline, All Protest Terrorism.

00:24:43.000 and another headline all acts of protest low-level terrorism all of the army soldiers are now being taught as part of their security training that protesting is illegal and anti-government anti-american you dovetail that With a DHS report saying veterans are terrorists, gun owners are terrorists, people with third-party bumper stickers are terrorists.

00:25:08.000 I mean, this is so outrageously un-American and tyrannical. 1.00

00:25:13.000 It's so patently obvious that the people teaching this are the terrorists.

00:25:19.000 I mean, this is right out of the Soviet Union, right out of Nazi Germany.

00:25:22.000 Where do you see this going?

00:25:23.000 Or, like you said, with the PSYOP, are they just trying to be so incredibly off the chart, obvious with their tyranny, that they think people are just going to accept it and go, yes, protesting is illegal, never allowed in America.

00:25:39.000 Well, I think that that's what their intention is, and whether they're going to be successful or not remains to be seen. 0.94

00:25:47.000 Our armed forces personnel are not stupid. 0.92

00:25:51.000 And they're going to say to themselves, no, this isn't right. 0.89

00:25:55.000 And 90% of them will think that way.

00:25:58.000 And so they may be making noises to condition people, particularly in the military and people who hear about it, about anybody who disagrees as a terrorist.

00:26:12.000 It's not going to be bought, but it'll scare some people, there's no question.

00:26:16.000 I mean, you have, again, almost half the people in America are functionally illiterate.

00:26:22.000 And they'll, unfortunately, believe everything.

00:26:25.000 Well, Bob, I think you just hit it.

00:26:26.000 This is meant to be, obviously, tyranny.

00:26:29.000 And it's meant to make all the thinking people go, whoa!

00:26:32.000 We really do have a tyranny. 0.99

00:26:34.000 I better shut up. 0.95

00:26:35.000 It's meant to be a bullying, chilling effect. 0.92

00:26:38.000 And if we shut up and let them bully us, then the real corruption and oppression comes in.

00:26:46.000 No, I think you're absolutely right, and that's a good take on it.

00:26:50.000 But underlying the whole thing, you can see the direction that they're going in.

00:26:55.000 And that direction is toward total government.

00:26:59.000 And, you know, every day we come up with another facet of what they're trying to do.

00:27:05.000 And you can imagine the many, many people that they have planning these things.

00:27:11.000 I wouldn't doubt it that they had hundreds of thousands of people Coming up with these ideas every day via the foundations and think tanks and within governments.

00:27:22.000 And don't forget the governments all connect with each other.

00:27:25.000 They all see each other, the Bilderberg meetings.

00:27:29.000 And so they're all linked together.

00:27:33.000 And so something, an idea comes out of a think tank in Germany and it's spread throughout all of the other luminous conclaves and it becomes A project.

00:27:45.000 And that's where they get these things from.

00:27:47.000 And, you know, the public has got to understand, they have an endless amount of money and they work 24 hours a day at this.

00:27:56.000 And, you know, you and I and people like us have a mountainous job trying to get the word to the public of what they're doing and why they're doing it.

00:28:05.000 And in this case, why they're doing it, again, is conditioning.

00:28:10.000 They want you to think that anybody who Says anything, criticizes government in any way, is a terrorist.

00:28:20.000 Unbelievable.

00:28:22.000 Bob, I've been throwing out my questions.

00:28:24.000 We're about to break and come back and go to calls, but so much is happening in the economy, and you're a guy, for those who don't know who you are out there, a lot of new stations, who have just made hundreds and hundreds of accurate forecasts and predictions about the economy with stunning accuracy.

00:28:38.000 What is most important right now in the economy?

00:28:41.000 What's some of the other news that people should know about, about the direction of the economy and where it's going?

00:28:47.000 Well, I think coming up in July, they're going to have a second quarter earnings, and they're not going to be very good.

00:28:52.000 And I think that before the month is over, that the stock market will start down.

00:28:57.000 And whether it'll go down to 6,600 at this time during the summer remains to be seen.

00:29:03.000 But I think there's a good shot that we could go back to 6,600 on the Dow in the fall and test it.

00:29:10.000 At the same time, I see that every time gold sticks its head up, they try to knock it down.

00:29:17.000 But the physical market keeps on coming through.

00:29:20.000 And as long as that continues...

00:29:22.000 The goal will remain relatively strong.

00:29:24.000 All right.

00:29:26.000 Let's get more into that after the quick break.

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00:33:39.000 Getting into where you see gold going.

00:33:43.000 Did predict the last three ups and downs of the stock market with amazing accuracy.

00:33:48.000 You've done a great job predicting gold.

00:33:50.000 You said you thought it would go up to $9.60.

00:33:53.000 It did and passed that.

00:33:55.000 You said they'd probably push it back down a few more times throughout the summer, but you and many others are predicting it's going to go way up.

00:34:02.000 What, into the fall?

00:34:03.000 Winter?

00:34:06.000 Well, I think we have a good shot at going through a thousand before the year is out.

00:34:20.000 And if I had to pick a time, I would say October would be a good one, or in December for that matter.

00:34:28.000 And so that's the way I think it's going to go, in spite of the inner workings and manipulation Of the Working Group on Financial Markets, which is a legal entity within government that does, 24 hours a day, manipulate all markets.

00:34:46.000 And that's another thing that will be exposed in the audit of the Federal Reserve.

00:34:53.000 Just what they're doing in these markets.

00:34:54.000 I mean, this legislation is going to be devastating.

00:34:58.000 It's got to pass because we can cut them off at the pass.

00:35:04.000 It is, you just have no idea how important it is.

00:35:07.000 I call it the most important legislation in the last hundred years.

00:35:12.000 And incidentally, you were going to play a tape by Ron Paul.

00:35:17.000 You said you had a two or three minute piece you wanted to play.

00:35:19.000 Yes, we do have that.

00:35:20.000 I want to get to that after we take a few calls here, Bob.

00:35:23.000 I've got time today, if you can do it, to hold a little bit into the next hour before our in-studio guests show up to get into the forced medicating of the water supply.

00:35:32.000 But yes, that's going to come up after we take some calls.

00:35:34.000 But specifically, getting back to HR 1207 with over 230 sponsors, last time I checked, it's going to the floor in the near future.

00:35:47.000 Incredible debates there.

00:35:49.000 Then it's probably going to pass the House.

00:35:50.000 There's a good chance of that.

00:35:51.000 And then going to the Senate.

00:35:53.000 But as Ron Paul has said, we win either way because if they fight being audited, if they continue to say they're above the law and secret, that only educates more people.

00:36:02.000 Five years ago, almost no one knew the Federal Reserve was private or even knew what the Federal Reserve was.

00:36:07.000 Now the general public knows these are the bad guys.

00:36:10.000 These are the offshore banks.

00:36:12.000 And so any way you cut it, The fact that they're the illegitimate financial government has come out and now, like you said, they're trying to fail forward by becoming the entire government overall and bringing us under international control through this new Bank of the World that Time Magazine and Newsweek and the Wall Street Journal are all pushing.

00:36:31.000 So there's no more denial about the fact that there's offshore banks trying to set up a world financial dictatorship with physical backing.

00:36:39.000 The only issue is, will we have a fighting spirit and stand up and say no to this attempted takeover?

00:36:45.000 You know, people say, well, they're not going to pass it, or, oh, they're going to have what they want, or they're invincible.

00:36:50.000 No, they're not!

00:36:51.000 Look how far we've come.

00:36:53.000 I mean, Bob, what has it been like for you, 45, 50 years with G. Edward Griffin and others, an icon in fighting this, and to now see the type of traction we've got, but at the same time to see so many snot-nosed people Uh, who don't like the New World Order, but saying there's nothing we can do.

00:37:09.000 I mean, why don't they have a fighting spirit?

00:37:14.000 I think it's just human nature.

00:37:15.000 Uh, there are certain types of personality out there.

00:37:18.000 I get letters from these people, and I answer them all. 1.00

00:37:22.000 And I'll say, look, if you want to give up, why don't you just go commit suicide? 0.99

00:37:26.000 I mean, to make it simpler. 0.99

00:37:28.000 Of course, I don't think anybody does that, but I think they get the point.

00:37:31.000 And, you know, I am so, you know, I've been saying this over and over again.

00:37:36.000 On all the radio stations I've been on for the last three months pushing Ron Paul's agenda in relation to the Federal Reserve, even if we had lost, which it doesn't look like we're going to, we get a shot at winning.

00:37:50.000 But even if we had lost, there are millions and millions of people Who now know who the enemy is and what they're up to.

00:37:59.000 Absolutely, and this is a process.

00:38:01.000 The globalists, it's taken them hundreds of years to build this.

00:38:05.000 In just a few decades, we are starting to tear it down.

00:38:07.000 So, they're trying to build it, and as they're building it, we're busy removing bricks to where what they've built is a dysfunctional mess.

00:38:14.000 It's not going to work.

00:38:16.000 We're winning.

00:38:17.000 I mean, resistance and the will to fight is the key component to victory, is it not, Bob?

00:38:22.000 It certainly is, and that's why I have kept for 50 years, next year it'll be 50 years, I would not give up.

00:38:31.000 And, you know, Ed Griffith was in the same boat along with Alan Stang and Anthony J. Hilder, and some of our pals are now deceased, but we're gonna win.

00:38:42.000 I can feel it.

00:38:44.000 I know, three weeks ago at the Bilderberg meeting, as you know, they said, Tops in the agenda.

00:38:50.000 We think this thing is getting out of control.

00:38:52.000 We better haul it in here before we're hung out to dry.

00:38:57.000 Well, the problem for them is they can't haul it in here.

00:39:01.000 They can't do it.

00:39:02.000 They're going to have to play it out to the end.

00:39:04.000 And the end for them is at the end of a rope.

00:39:09.000 Amazing.

00:39:10.000 Well, it is us or them, ladies and gentlemen.

00:39:12.000 I want to go to Todd and Chris and Joe and Randall and Bill and Nick and many others here in just a moment, but I wanted to get like a three-minute report real fast from Ted Anderson because gold went way up and it dropped some, but still way up on the year.

00:39:27.000 And I wanted to bring Ted up on this Friday edition, the owner of Genesis Communications, also the owner of Midas Resources, and I've searched around for gold and silver.

00:39:35.000 This is where I've decided to do my shopping, because they have the best deals.

00:39:39.000 They have great deals on bullion coins, really collector coins at bullion prices, and collector coins, and some really good deals on collectible silver coins.

00:39:47.000 Ted Anderson, good to have you here with us.

00:39:49.000 Yeah, thanks for having me up Alex.

00:39:50.000 It's very interesting what's going on in the gold market.

00:39:53.000 You're right, right now the prices are down a little bit and that just makes me want to buy it even more.

00:39:58.000 Just watching what the Fed is doing and what's going on in Congress.

00:40:02.000 And that HR 1207 bill, if the people of the United States haven't figured it out yet, if the United States government won't get themselves on a gold standard and silver, then the people of the United States will do it without them.

00:40:14.000 And that's exactly what's going on.

00:40:16.000 A lot of people are getting interested in gold and silver coins.

00:40:19.000 We're seeing a great interest, you know, boil up.

00:40:23.000 And right now, literally, we have Even less than 3%.

00:40:27.000 I would even doubt if the numbers are less than 1% of the people are getting into gold at this time.

00:40:32.000 By the time 5% of the people wake up and feel that they need to have gold and silver as a part of their portfolio, gold will be over $10,000 an ounce, and silver, who knows?

00:40:43.000 We'll be at maybe $150,000, $200,000, and the supply is going to be so short, there just won't be enough to go around.

00:40:50.000 Let me ask Bob that question, because I want him to elaborate.

00:40:54.000 All these big-time analysts on mainstream TV are saying it's going to go above $2,000, sure thing.

00:40:59.000 Now, when I start seeing mainstream media come out and say $2,000, I start thinking maybe that isn't going to happen.

00:41:08.000 Now, when they're saying it isn't, I start thinking it is.

00:41:11.000 Will gold go above $2,000 an ounce in the near future?

00:41:14.000 Yes, I think it will.

00:41:15.000 And I think the reason that they're doing that, and that includes JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, And others who are in on this, so to speak, because they want to limit the increase in the price of gold to $2,000 an ounce.

00:41:33.000 That's why they're giving into that number now at some time in the future, because they don't want it going any higher than that.

00:41:41.000 And that's what that is all about.

00:41:43.000 Again, psychological warfare.

00:41:45.000 They're supplanting in people's minds, that's going to be the top of the market.

00:41:51.000 It doesn't seem relative right now, but it will later.

00:41:54.000 Absolutely.

00:41:56.000 Ted Anderson, tell folks about today's specials that are going to run through the weekend if they want to call and start getting into gold and silver.

00:42:03.000 Well, yeah, we've been trading those Lakota rounds for $21, I think $21.50 right around in that range here.

00:42:09.000 But because silver has dropped back from about $14.75 down to about $14.21, I've been able to offer the Lakotas back down at that $20 level, which is a really great buy.

00:42:22.000 I mean, this is one of the coins that really flies in the face of the Fed, because, you know, like they're indicting the guy from NorFed right now in legal trouble.

00:42:32.000 I just don't know how the United States government's going to be able to step in and tell a sovereign nation that they can't have a currency coin.

00:42:39.000 And we'll see how that plays out, but obviously with what happened to the Norfed coin, they went up so high in price when the Feds came in and did their thing with that.

00:42:49.000 It shut that organization down and confiscated silver, which might have... You know, it's funny, Ted, I had no idea that you were going to talk about the Liberty Dollar.

00:42:58.000 When you were coming on today, and I was holding up a Liberty Dollar, because I was about to talk about that as soon as you left us, leave us here in a few minutes.

00:43:06.000 But absolutely, folks, get into these Lakotas, because they're gorgeous coins, and it may be going down the same road as the Liberty Dollar.

00:43:14.000 And these suckers go for hundreds and hundreds of dollars an ounce now, because they're now such collectors, because this company got shut down.

00:43:21.000 Land of the free, home of the brave.

00:43:22.000 Can't coin your own silver, can't coin your own gold.

00:43:25.000 We're going to be breaking that down, coming up a little bit.

00:43:28.000 Later in this hour, but Ted fire out the toll-free number for folks.

00:43:33.000 Yeah, they can get us at 1-800-686-2237 again.

00:43:35.000 It's 1-800-686-2237 686-2237.

00:43:41.000 The nice thing is I was able to buy quite a supply of these Lakota coins so I can deliver them real fast.

00:43:48.000 And I know that people want to get the gold and silver in their hands. 0.95

00:43:51.000 I mean, if you'd be a fool right now to get certificates, it just doesn't make sense. 0.97

00:43:56.000 Absolutely. 0.98

00:43:56.000 You want to physically hold it. 0.98

00:43:57.000 800-686-2237.

00:43:58.000 800-686-2237.

00:43:58.000 The brokers will be there tonight and all weekend.

00:44:01.000 Thank you, Ted.

00:44:02.000 Yeah, thanks for having me up, Alex.

00:44:08.000 You bet.

00:44:08.000 Bob, I wanted to bring this up and then go to calls finally because every few weeks I see an article about man arrested at Best Buy or man arrested at Walmart or man arrested at drugstore for trying to pay for something with a $2 bill.

00:44:25.000 Two dollar bills are Federal Reserve issued, quote, U.S. 0.90

00:44:29.000 Mint issued with the Declaration of Independence on the back, and the public is so ignorant, and the police are so ignorant, they will still take you to jail and charge you. 0.93

00:44:38.000 Usually it gets dropped down the line. 0.90

00:44:40.000 But for those that don't know, it's free association, free barter.

00:44:45.000 It's against the law to copy U.S.

00:44:47.000 currency.

00:44:48.000 The Federal Reserve took that over and does that, so they're really counterfeiters.

00:44:52.000 But if you counterfeit their counterfeit currency, you go to jail, because that debases and devalues the currency, what the private Federal Reserve is doing themselves.

00:45:00.000 But if I wanted to go out and strike, say, a thousand coins with my face on them, or your face, or the Easter Bunny's face on them, That's my right.

00:45:12.000 And if somebody wants to barter, and I go, hey, silver's $15 an ounce, you want to give me $15 worth of products for this?

00:45:21.000 That would then happen.

00:45:22.000 And for those that don't know, cities and counties and all over the U.S.

00:45:26.000 for hundreds of years have barter, have local notes.

00:45:31.000 The Feds are now going after those groups, so we see them trying to, as they debase the Federal Reserve note, I think getting ready for inflation and that money to be discredited.

00:45:40.000 Like you said, currency controls?

00:45:42.000 Not just outside currency controls, trying to trade your dollars as they are imploded in the future, but also where people can't, oh, I'll trade in silver, my own silver, even if it's old U.S.

00:45:52.000 silver, or I'll trade in gold, whether it's Krugerrands or British Sovereigns or American Ingalls, or, oh, our local town will do script.

00:46:00.000 You know, that's accepted at the auto repair place, and the beauty salon, and at the grocery store.

00:46:04.000 I mean, there's already hundreds of towns and cities doing this.

00:46:07.000 It's not illegal.

00:46:08.000 But the feds, it says, Asheville man-charged an alleged Liberty Dollar fraud scheme.

00:46:13.000 They were advertising all over TV and radio.

00:46:16.000 They were mainstream.

00:46:18.000 They were just saying alternative currency system.

00:46:21.000 Totally legal.

00:46:23.000 And the feds rated them, and people said, well, We believe this is legal, you know, the news, because it's legal to have your own alternate currencies as long as you're not saying you're the Federal Reserve or the Treasury, and they weren't.

00:46:36.000 And I said, no, folks, they had the gold and silver on hand for their certificates as well, and the feds aren't charging.

00:46:42.000 They didn't have enough gold and silver.

00:46:43.000 They stole that.

00:46:44.000 It was now in the indictments, they admit, saying this is counterfeit.

00:46:49.000 How is it counterfeit, Bob, to have free association and make your own coins out of a precious metal and sell them, whether it's commemorative or whatever?

00:47:00.000 Well, it isn't, and I think when you see the court cases that the government will lose If the government does not lose, you'll know that the courts are rigged.

00:47:10.000 Because it's not illegal.

00:47:12.000 It's legal.

00:47:13.000 The Berkshire dollar is a good example.

00:47:16.000 It's been in existence for a long time in Massachusetts, particularly western Massachusetts.

00:47:22.000 And you go and buy a dollar's worth and you pay 97 cents or 95 cents for the Berkshire dollar.

00:47:33.000 There's nothing wrong with that, but they want to shut all these things down because they don't want anybody competing with the Federal Reserve notes, whether it's in script, like Berkshire, or whether it's in coins that Alex and Bob made up with Ron Paul's face on it.

00:47:52.000 They don't want anything like that.

00:47:54.000 It's dictatorial.

00:47:55.000 You're right back to square one again.

00:47:57.000 Well, I mean, take Dave & Buster's, for folks who don't have that in their area of the country.

00:48:02.000 It's a big place with three or four restaurants, and whack-a-mole games, and foosball, and skeetball, and all that stuff, and you can take the kids there and eat dinner.

00:48:13.000 And then, you know, go spend a few bucks, but you, in the old days, you'd get tokens.

00:48:17.000 Now, now you get a debit card, but you put your $20 bill in and then you get tokens.

00:48:22.000 That'd be like the Secret Service hiding out at Dave & Buster's or an arcade arresting the arcade owner for giving people tokens for dollars.

00:48:31.000 I mean, this is just unbelievable that this is happening, and these guys were out in the open doing nothing wrong, and this coin that I got back in the time for five dollars, because I let listeners pay for videos with silver coin, it just needs to be denominated, you know, in the amount of the books and videos they buy, and I've gotten quite a bit of silver in the mail over the years, and these collector's items I got for five dollars a piece back when silver was at five bucks,

00:48:58.000 Five, six years ago, this coin is worth hundreds on eBay.

00:49:02.000 So I guess I did a pretty good thing, but maybe I'll be arrested, Bob, for even having this, because I'm in such a free country.

00:49:09.000 Well, you know, that may eventually happen.

00:49:12.000 You know, government has the ability to outlaw anything, and that's why they have executive orders, which I think should be totally done away with, along with lobbying and campaign finance.

00:49:24.000 And I have the solutions for them.

00:49:26.000 But the path that we're taking here is that the government is going to, in the future, outlaw lots of things.

00:49:39.000 And if we have high unemployment, which I think we will have, 35, maybe 50%, because we're already at 20.4%, And it's not going to be difficult to get much higher.

00:49:54.000 I think the people will finally say, no, we're not going to do that.

00:49:58.000 And that's where the steel will meet the brick.

00:50:01.000 And we're going to find out just how far the government's willing to go.

00:50:07.000 Well, I mean, my grandmother, still alive, great lady, she remembers being a little girl.

00:50:12.000 in Dallas, and my grandfather was from Dallas as well, and he remembers his daddy having to go turn in their gold, wink, wink, they didn't turn it all in, $4 back from the Federal Reserve, and then at half price, what the government said, and then at half price, what the government said, no gold is worth this much, and then a year later, the Feds doubled the price of gold and made profits, and private banks were given that money.

00:50:39.000 So, I guess if Americans are told today to give their kids to the government.

00:50:43.000 If they told them, throw your kids off a cliff, they might do it.

00:50:46.000 We're going to come back and take calls for Bob Chapman, but here's World Net Daily reporting on the Baltimore Sun.

00:50:52.000 Man arrested for using $2 bill.

00:50:54.000 Folks, $2 bills even Federal Reserve money.

00:50:57.000 They have a hunger to put you in prison.

00:50:57.000 They don't care.

00:51:00.000 We'll be right back.

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00:54:00.000 All right, Bob Chapman, Bob Chapman, let's go to some phone calls here.

00:54:26.000 Bob's going to be with us for 15 minutes in the next hour, so plenty of time to take your calls.

00:54:32.000 If you think it's kooky to not want to drink sodium fluoride in your water, wait till we have a doctor here in studio with us coming up later in the next hour.

00:54:42.000 Todd in Texas, you're on the air with Bob Chapman and Alex Jones.

00:54:46.000 Go ahead.

00:54:47.000 Good day, gentlemen.

00:54:48.000 I am in route to an appointment where I will become a bronze member of the police state control grid.

00:54:54.000 I'm a Texas educator.

00:54:55.000 Alex, can you guess what I'm getting ready to go and do?

00:54:58.000 You're getting ready to go, uh, be biometrically scanned?

00:55:03.000 Yes, I am.

00:55:04.000 And let me tell you, it, it, it sickens me to the very core of my being.

00:55:07.000 So I've been an educator for 10 years.

00:55:09.000 I have literally kept kids from committing suicide.

00:55:13.000 And this is how I'm being repaid.

00:55:14.000 I've contacted my representatives, I've contacted the ACLU, I've contacted the Texas Education Agency, and I didn't realize it, but I really angered the Director of Fingerprinting and Investigations when he said he was just doing his job, and I said that was the defense they used at Nuremberg.

00:55:32.000 So I just thought I'd commemorate this day by calling in and letting you know.

00:55:37.000 Well, I guessed, because I know that a lot of educators We're having to do it right now to get ready for next year to start.

00:55:46.000 But they lie and say, you've got to be vaccinated.

00:55:49.000 You don't.

00:55:50.000 They lie and say, you've got to be fingerprinted.

00:55:52.000 It is a policy.

00:55:53.000 They call it a law.

00:55:54.000 But all over the nation and all over the world, this is being standardized.

00:56:01.000 And the big think tanks admit to get everybody ready to thumbprint to buy and sell.

00:56:08.000 Because they're going to skip ahead of the world currency.

00:56:11.000 You're going to still have regional currencies.

00:56:13.000 It's just going to all be globally standardized.

00:56:15.000 This is all under UN treaty already.

00:56:17.000 And so...

00:56:19.000 That's why you'll see a 80-year-old man at Walgreens showing his ID to buy pipe tobacco.

00:56:26.000 I've seen an ancient man on the little four-ended walker, barely able to get his money up to the counter, showing his ID to the missy.

00:56:34.000 Literally going, here you go!

00:56:37.000 Because it's all about mindless, zero-tolerance enforcement.

00:56:40.000 Oh, the 10-year-old's got in a fistfight.

00:56:43.000 You go to prison now.

00:56:44.000 You don't get in trouble.

00:56:46.000 Uh, and get swats or get sent home or get patted on the back and told, good job boys, like they're supposed to be, to be men.

00:56:52.000 It's all about throwing the book at you and so CPAs, lawyers, uh, people that are involved in real estate at all levels, not just the brokers, but also the real estate agents.

00:57:09.000 Everybody's having to thumbprint and digital photo.

00:57:12.000 They don't tell you it's a face scan.

00:57:14.000 Head Start comes in, does it to your kids, doesn't even ask you.

00:57:17.000 This is all this, in their own words, cashless society control grid being put in.

00:57:22.000 Bob Chapman comments on this.

00:57:24.000 This is the Federal Reserve omnibus global banking scheme making the slaves only use their currency, only use their system, killing all anonymity, all freedom.

00:57:35.000 Nothing to do with protecting the kids.

00:57:39.000 Yes, you're right.

00:57:40.000 And what they ultimately want is a chip or a debit card And if you say one thing out of the way about government, your debit card doesn't work anymore, and your chip shuts down.

00:57:53.000 And this is where they're headed with all this.

00:57:56.000 And by the way, you know, used to, we didn't even have driver's license.

00:58:00.000 Then we had driver's license.

00:58:01.000 Now, you don't face print, thumb print, hand print.

00:58:03.000 You don't get in Disney World.

00:58:05.000 You don't get in Sea World.

00:58:07.000 If you don't follow every order we give you, you don't eat, you don't have a job, and now it's guilty until proven innocent, but then the schools will keep the pedophiles working there.

00:58:19.000 This has nothing to do with that either.

00:58:20.000 This is about training Todd that he's a slave.

00:58:24.000 Todd, what do the other teachers think?

00:58:27.000 Uh, you know, I have a couple people that I've worked with over the years that have slowly come around.

00:58:31.000 I've given them, I mean, I've passed out literally about 2,000 of your films and found the way into the hands of educators and they've watched it.

00:58:38.000 Stay there, I want to hear more.

00:58:40.000 Back in 70 seconds.

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01:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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01:00:10.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:12.000 You want answers?

01:00:13.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:15.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:19.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:27.000 Tyrants always try to make the general public criminals.

01:00:31.000 They criminalize normal activity.

01:00:33.000 You want to barter somebody for a silver coin?

01:00:35.000 They SWAT team you.

01:00:37.000 You want to be a school teacher, a realtor, now almost every profession.

01:00:42.000 They drug test you, the feds want to make you do that now, not just voluntary, if the company owner wants to.

01:00:48.000 They make you thumbprint, they make you face scan.

01:00:51.000 The kids have to do this to get their school lunches all over the country.

01:00:54.000 And the think tank heads admit, in these global consortium meetings, we've read their minutes on air, that this is about totally controlling and tracking everything you do.

01:01:04.000 And like Bob said, and like Nick Rockefeller said, To Aaron Russo in the Reflections and Warnings film that's available by the way at InfoWars.com. 0.98

01:01:14.000 They said right there that, hey, we're going to have kiss my butt on our chips and it's going to be on your chip that you're a slave. 1.00

01:01:23.000 And they already have that in California and other states where the police license plates can't be read by the camera scanners. 0.98

01:01:29.000 Yes.

01:01:30.000 Yes, I'm sorry.

01:01:30.000 I'm actually in the building right now.

01:01:32.000 I'm about to be processed into the system.

01:01:33.000 driving through toll roads, just like illegal aliens are selectively left alone.

01:01:38.000 So finishing up real quick, Todd.

01:01:40.000 Yes.

01:01:43.000 You were wanting to finish up, Todd, about...

01:01:46.000 I'm actually in the building right now, about to be processed into the system.

01:01:50.000 I'm sorry, I got a little bit distracted.

01:01:51.000 So I am actually here in the building, and yes, the police state has come to the tiny town of Robson, Texas, population 12,000.

01:01:57.000 No town is exempt.

01:01:59.000 No town will be free.

01:02:00.000 Everyone will be processed.

01:02:01.000 And it's a biometric scanner.

01:02:03.000 You're going to go right into the International Slave Database, just like...

01:02:07.000 How old are you, Tom?

01:02:07.000 Todd?

01:02:09.000 I'm PODD.

01:02:09.000 I'm 34.

01:02:10.000 Well then, I'm 30...

01:02:12.000 Yes, sir.

01:02:13.000 How old am I?

01:02:15.000 I'm 35 now.

01:02:16.000 Anyways, going back here...

01:02:21.000 No, but the point I was going to make is everybody at birth who's 36 years old or younger had their blood illegally taken and put in a world DNA database.

01:02:32.000 I said that for years.

01:02:33.000 People laughed at me.

01:02:35.000 Now it's mainstream news.

01:02:36.000 Let's go back to Bob Chapman.

01:02:38.000 Bob, I mean, again, is this a good government we have that took everybody's blood at birth in the last 36 years?

01:02:46.000 It's dreadful and obviously so.

01:02:48.000 I remember my son is 41.

01:02:52.000 And I remember we had a birthday party for him.

01:02:56.000 We lived in California at an ice cream place.

01:02:59.000 And all the kids who were going to school with him, it was the sort of thing that kids did in those days.

01:03:06.000 And I found out later that the government came in to that company, which handled a number of ice cream parlors throughout Southern California.

01:03:18.000 And retrieved all of the information on all of the kids and what their birthday dates were, and all the information they could get on them.

01:03:27.000 And when he was 21 or 18, they sent him a notice to register for the draft based on that, because there was a mistake in it.

01:03:38.000 And the mistake had been on the original, which was turned in for that party.

01:03:42.000 So that's the kind of things your government does.

01:03:45.000 And they've been doing it for years. 0.98

01:03:47.000 And incidentally, my daughter's a teacher, and she's going to have to come to terms with this stupidness that the government's doing in relation to teachers. 0.98

01:03:58.000 Amazing, yeah. 0.98

01:04:00.000 I mean, think about it.

01:04:01.000 In Australia, UK, Canada, all over the Western world for 36 years is when it started everywhere. 0.84

01:04:08.000 They had some pilot programs.

01:04:10.000 The Austin American Statesman a couple months ago said for 44 years they've been taking your blood at birth.

01:04:14.000 The documents I have are 36.

01:04:17.000 But when I was born at Parkland in 1974, 35 years ago, they came in and took my blood.

01:04:24.000 They came in and did it and sent it off to a UN database.

01:04:27.000 I mean, you know, this is a rogue government, period, Bob.

01:04:32.000 And we've got to get the public to come with grips with that.

01:04:34.000 We've got to stop cooperating.

01:04:36.000 They know we're going to stop cooperating.

01:04:38.000 That's why they want this cashless society grid in place. 1.00

01:04:40.000 Do you agree?

01:04:41.000 Absolutely.

01:04:43.000 And all the other things that they're trying to do to get rid of the people like you and I who will speak out about what they're doing.

01:04:51.000 Well, I guess I'm a terrorist, folks.

01:04:53.000 I've got silver coin.

01:04:55.000 So evil.

01:04:56.000 We'll be right back with Bob Chapman-Moore.

01:04:58.000 Your call.

01:04:58.000 Stay with us.

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01:08:14.000 We got a tour of the Austin Water Treatment Plant yesterday, but they would not let us bring cameras in to videotape the fluoride they were dumping in for national security.

01:08:23.000 Everything's national security.

01:08:28.000 Paul uses an excuse for the system to carry out its crimes.

01:08:31.000 We'll tell you about that coming up in about 25 minutes.

01:08:33.000 I want to continue quickly now with phone calls.

01:08:36.000 And I ended up keeping the last call on for like 10 minutes.

01:08:38.000 We've got to be quicker to get everybody in here.

01:08:40.000 Chris in Tennessee, you're on the air with Bob Chapman.

01:08:42.000 Go ahead.

01:08:42.000 Yeah.

01:08:43.000 Hello, Mr. Infowarriors.

01:08:45.000 Hello, Bob.

01:08:45.000 I want to talk about the Bloomberg story posted on June 17th about the suitcase filled with $134 billion of U.S. bonds that were, they caught them in Italy, and they were trying to smuggle them into Switzerland.

01:08:58.000 And it appears somehow that they've taken these bonds from the Japanese treasury, and they've, North Korea, North Korea, Kim Jong-il has them.

01:09:08.000 Do you think this large amount of debt is the reason why we're involved with a conflict with North Korea today?

01:09:14.000 And what will this do?

01:09:15.000 It says it puts the dollar on edge.

01:09:17.000 Will this finally be the last straw to break the U.S. economy?

01:09:19.000 Yeah, I saw that report.

01:09:20.000 How will it affect the price of gold if they transfer them to euros?

01:09:23.000 We actually mentioned that yesterday, but I wanted to get Bob's take on that.

01:09:27.000 For those that don't know about it, Bob, tell them.

01:09:31.000 Well, the Italian border police at an entry point into Switzerland intercepted two Japanese men with false bottoms in their attache cases, which contained $134 billion worth of bonds. which contained $134 billion worth of bonds.

01:09:49.000 I have I'm hearing all kinds of differing stories out of Europe as opposed to here.

01:09:57.000 I don't know what the answer is yet.

01:10:01.000 Uh, chances are that they may be counterfeits.

01:10:06.000 Uh, I got a story right out of Italy today that said, uh, it was the Japanese who caused that along with the Italian mafia who were involved in this.

01:10:16.000 Uh, I don't know what to believe yet.

01:10:19.000 All I know is so far, it isn't very good, uh, for the United States government.

01:10:24.000 On the other hand, um, if they're criminals, they may be counterfeits.

01:10:29.000 If, you know, The government never tells us the truth, so we don't know what we're going to get in the end.

01:10:35.000 Yeah, this is the issue I want to throw out.

01:10:37.000 When we've got these Madoffs and all these other criminals running the architecture of the system, that's why there's no audit of the private Federal Reserve.

01:10:45.000 Can we even imagine the types of money laundering and payoffs and insider trading and scams that we're going to find?

01:10:56.000 It'll be colossal.

01:10:58.000 The hiding of offshore accounts That the Fed and the Treasury are both using to buy bonds in our domestic market here.

01:11:10.000 The money laundering that's going on, the narcotics money, not only via the CIA and MI6, but other organizations.

01:11:19.000 I mean, the consequences are enormous.

01:11:24.000 That's why this legislation is so important.

01:11:30.000 Good point, caller.

01:11:32.000 I really appreciate you calling and making that point.

01:11:34.000 Anything else?

01:11:35.000 Okay, we're going to let him go.

01:11:39.000 Thank you so much, Chris.

01:11:40.000 Joe in New York, you're on the air with Bob Chapman.

01:11:42.000 Go ahead.

01:11:44.000 Hey, Alex and Bob, thanks for all you do.

01:11:45.000 I just want to tell you about something I found out about yesterday.

01:11:48.000 This guy I work with, I keep giving him DVDs, we keep talking, but he told me yesterday he's got two cousins.

01:11:53.000 One of them lives here in Rochester, New York.

01:11:55.000 The other one's out in California.

01:11:57.000 The guy in Rochester, New York was out in California for two weeks training for this company.

01:12:01.000 It's called CBSV.

01:12:03.000 And he said they're looking for some people, you know, they want to hire, recruit these people that work for him.

01:12:07.000 So he goes, give him a call.

01:12:08.000 So I called the guy.

01:12:09.000 CBSV stands for Consent Based Social Security Number Verification.

01:12:14.000 He said it was supposed to go, they've been working on this since January 2008.

01:12:18.000 It's going to take effect next month.

01:12:21.000 He said that their website's not up and running yet, but it will be in a month.

01:12:24.000 And he said, you know, he's got my number, he picked it up off his cell phone, and he said that if you want some information right now, you can Google Red Flag Rules or Red Flag Compliance.

01:12:36.000 And again, it's called CBSV, Consent-Based Social Security Number Verification.

01:12:41.000 It's going to be all used, and every bank and every hospital is going to have this.

01:12:45.000 And I just want to get your take, you know, I'm just trying to find out more about it.

01:12:48.000 Yeah, for those that don't know, I know I'm aware of it.

01:12:50.000 I'm glad you brought it up.

01:12:51.000 They're federalizing forcibly all health care.

01:12:54.000 They are federalizing all the major corporations.

01:12:58.000 The Federal Reserve is taking them over forcibly.

01:13:02.000 They're using their regulatory power to grab healthy banks, insurance companies, credit unions, and feed it into the gaping mouth of this system. 1.00

01:13:11.000 And yes, they're federalizing all the health care, everything, all the data, everything you do.

01:13:18.000 Point of transaction will be run through the feds, and Homeland Security has said If you're not in good favor with them, you're not going to be allowed to have a job.

01:13:29.000 If you have bad credit, you're going to be on a no-fly list.

01:13:33.000 They're now saying if you're on a no-fly list, you won't be able to own a firearm.

01:13:37.000 And they're going to expand that to tens of millions, not just millions of Americans.

01:13:41.000 And so this is the new control grid where they have these warrantless Kafka-esque or 1984 lists People always ask about red and blue lists, and those are real.

01:13:51.000 But they also have this harassment list.

01:13:53.000 This list of where you're persona non grata and can't travel, can't live, can't eat.

01:13:59.000 And so then you're homeless, then you're not allowed to be homeless.

01:14:02.000 They take you to the camp.

01:14:03.000 I told people that over a decade ago.

01:14:05.000 Now in California and Hawaii, they don't let you be homeless.

01:14:08.000 They take you to a camp.

01:14:10.000 So Bob Chapman, your take on that?

01:14:13.000 It's absolutely unbelievable.

01:14:15.000 But it's happening.

01:14:17.000 And you're going to see more and more and more of this.

01:14:20.000 It's just the government takeover of the people and the loss of freedom that's involved.

01:14:26.000 And all we can do is what we can do, but Alex, you know, your program is bringing all this information out to public, and at least people can be aware of it and know what's going on.

01:14:38.000 Well, for those that are just tuning in for the first time, this is classical tyranny with a high-tech interweaving or overlay.

01:14:47.000 And they attack us all incrementally.

01:14:51.000 They attack us individually, and we've been trained not to know our neighbors, not to get involved, not to help, to all be isolated.

01:14:59.000 And it's because we're isolated, they're able to do this.

01:15:01.000 We have to first stand up and say, I'm mad, I'm angry, you're criminals, we're going to expose you, we're saying no, and get on the offensive and call for their audit, their arrest, instead of just laying here while they do that.

01:15:15.000 Bill in Florida.

01:15:15.000 Thank you, Joe.

01:15:16.000 You're on the air with Bob Schaben, TheInternationalForecaster.com.

01:15:20.000 Yes, well first Alex, I wanted to tell you thank you for everything you're doing out here.

01:15:25.000 I subscribed to your PrisonPlanetTV.com.

01:15:27.000 I also picked up your Obama reception and your Aaron Russo.

01:15:31.000 God bless you.

01:15:32.000 We couldn't operate without people like you.

01:15:34.000 I also have a problem of course with waking up my family.

01:15:37.000 It's like a joke.

01:15:39.000 And the other thing I wanted to say, I speak out, I post videos all the time speaking out, and I promote your stuff as well.

01:15:47.000 And I had a question on the food.

01:15:49.000 Do you really think gold is going to be any good if they use food as a weapon against people?

01:15:55.000 Well, look, I've always said I believe gold's a good investment.

01:15:58.000 It has intrinsic industrial value and barter value for 6,000 years.

01:16:02.000 And also, we've got to fund this operation, so I promote it.

01:16:05.000 I mean, I only promote things I believe in.

01:16:08.000 So it's a win-win-win.

01:16:09.000 And I believe in gold and silver, and people that invested in it have made three, four times their investment when all other investments aren't doing well.

01:16:17.000 I know big banks and brokerage firms and insurance companies are quietly moving into gold and silver.

01:16:21.000 I know the elites hoard gold and silver.

01:16:24.000 But no, I'm not saying just gold and silver.

01:16:27.000 I'm saying have storable food, number one, water filters, Second Amendment.

01:16:31.000 Then if you have discretionary other assets, Put a portion of it in gold and silver.

01:16:38.000 And not even as an investment, but as an insurance policy.

01:16:42.000 I've always said invest in it because it can't be fully reduced overnight.

01:16:45.000 People say, well then they could come and forcibly confiscate it.

01:16:48.000 They could come take you and take you to a gulag too!

01:16:50.000 That's the whole point!

01:16:51.000 Is we're doing whatever we can to be independent, to be in their system but out of their system, to be in Babylon but not of Babylon.

01:17:01.000 Look, Bob Chapman, you want to explain this to him?

01:17:05.000 You only can do what you can do.

01:17:06.000 You lay the groundwork.

01:17:08.000 You get the food, the filter, the weapons, and extra money goes into gold and silver coins.

01:17:14.000 If you want to speculate, you can buy the stocks as well.

01:17:17.000 It all depends on how much money you've got.

01:17:19.000 That's the starting point.

01:17:21.000 But there's some people that can't do anything because they don't have the money to do it.

01:17:25.000 Well, you just do what you can do.

01:17:27.000 But government can do anything it wants.

01:17:31.000 The longer they wait, the better it is for us.

01:17:34.000 And the reason why is we're informing more people.

01:17:37.000 Hopefully we can get legislation passed on the Fed.

01:17:40.000 Hopefully that'll be followed by legislation on the elimination of free trade and the implementation of tariffs on goods and services.

01:17:53.000 We're gaining time here.

01:17:54.000 They're gaining time, too, to do the things that they want to do.

01:17:58.000 Yeah, they want this, exactly, they want this financial straitjacket on us so they can then use finance to control us with just a backup of paramilitary force.

01:18:10.000 That's why we've got a scream bloody murder now, because they don't have their grid in place, do they Bob?

01:18:15.000 No they don't.

01:18:16.000 And they're afraid, as we hark back to the meeting of the Bilderbergers in Greece recently, and they said, we're losing control, we've got to fold this thing in soon.

01:18:28.000 Because, or try again later.

01:18:31.000 Because the people know too much.

01:18:33.000 It hasn't worked out the way we wanted.

01:18:35.000 Iraq was an absolute disaster for them. 1.00

01:18:39.000 And they said that themselves.

01:18:41.000 Brzezinski said that a couple of years ago, if not longer.

01:18:46.000 And so we got a good shot at this.

01:18:49.000 But you got to be prepared.

01:18:50.000 So if you have the funds, get the fundamentals and get them in place.

01:18:55.000 And people who have more money, who have questions that need answered, all they have to do is email me, and I'll answer their questions.

01:19:02.000 It doesn't cost them anything.

01:19:04.000 In fact, speaking of that, theinternationalforecaster.com to get a free e-copy.

01:19:09.000 And Bob, do you have that toll-free number?

01:19:10.000 Because I know Midas Resources is offering a free hard copy of the latest issue for anybody that wants to call.

01:19:17.000 That's correct.

01:19:18.000 They are, and they always are.

01:19:20.000 That number is 877-479- 8178.

01:19:25.000 That's toll-free 877-479-8178.

01:19:28.000 Alright, briefly, caller, did that answer your question?

01:19:35.000 Yes, it did, and I thank you.

01:19:37.000 God bless you.

01:19:38.000 Bob Chapman, we'll see you next Friday, God willing.

01:19:43.000 You better believe it.

01:19:44.000 All right, you're the best.

01:19:45.000 Bob Chapman, take care, my friend.

01:19:47.000 Thank you.

01:19:47.000 Bye-bye.

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01:19:57.000 I'm going to come back and play this Ron Paul clip on the other side.

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01:22:02.000 In the New World Order's war against humanity, Barack Obama is the tip of the spear.

01:22:09.000 We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to see.

01:22:15.000 The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.

01:22:21.000 Well, Obama's already fudging.

01:22:23.000 He's fudged since day one of this election.

01:22:26.000 If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.

01:22:39.000 It's not about left or right.

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01:24:05.000 Coming up, I'm going to show you what they're putting in the Austin water supply.

01:24:10.000 I have some FOIA requests.

01:24:14.000 coming up i'm gonna show you what they're putting in the austin water supply i have reporter requests the actual chemicals being dumped in there by the government hydrofluacilic acid h2sif6 and other goodies Children That is coming up.

01:24:41.000 Alright, this is a short clip, but Ron Paul is now going out on TV saying, this gives the bankers more power than Congress has over the country.

01:24:49.000 And that's what the quote, overhaul of the private banks is.

01:24:52.000 The Federal Reserve is their private consortium, or their holding company.

01:24:57.000 So they're saying, give the private banks that did all this, more power to stop it from happening in the future.

01:25:04.000 Which they promised back in October, give us more power and we'll fix it.

01:25:07.000 And I told you, they've already been given unlimited financial power.

01:25:10.000 Now they want power over other corporations and companies to seize any company, take over anything they want.

01:25:15.000 And it's the same thing across the board.

01:25:17.000 Shutting down farms and ranches.

01:25:19.000 NAIS.

01:25:20.000 Premises ID.

01:25:22.000 I mean, this is a corporate takeover of every level of society.

01:25:27.000 Then there's some big Iran news I haven't gotten to.

01:25:29.000 That's clearly a CIA operation.

01:25:31.000 First few days I said, we'll wait and see. 0.77

01:25:34.000 The mullahs do have some corrupt problems. 1.00

01:25:36.000 They may have stolen the election. 0.98

01:25:38.000 Definitely CIA op now.

01:25:40.000 They've been caught doing that.

01:25:41.000 In fact, I meant to get to it yesterday, but now even more evidence has come out.

01:25:45.000 Can you guys, during the break I'll find the photos for you, where they would crop photos of people protesting for Ahmadinejad, and they would say it was people against him, and BBC got caught doing that.

01:25:57.000 They've had to admit they've staged it.

01:25:59.000 But that's not it.

01:26:00.000 They're always on TV with signs in English, and people have been picking them out as CIA people from the US.

01:26:08.000 Just like when they tore Saddam's statue down and they showed close shots of five or six guys like it was a crowd.

01:26:13.000 It turns out it was just a few dozen people and it was all CIA ops.

01:26:17.000 We're not saying the Mullahs are good or Saddam's good. 1.00

01:26:20.000 The issue is it's staged.

01:26:23.000 Just know they're lying to you on the news and trying to overthrow Iran. 0.90

01:26:31.000 Our government already did that in 1953 to these poor people. 0.95

01:26:34.000 No wonder they hate us so much.

01:26:35.000 Stay out of their business! 0.96

01:26:38.000 People are like, no I'll kill him, I like being in an empire. 1.00

01:26:41.000 The same empire is raping you too? 1.00

01:26:43.000 You're not part of the empire, you pay for it. 1.00

01:26:46.000 You're the slave that pays for it. 0.63

01:26:49.000 You're a slave working in a factory for the New World Order. 0.97

01:26:52.000 Stop thinking like you're part of it. 0.61

01:26:55.000 Huh, these yuppies just can't figure it out.

01:26:57.000 These good old boys just can't figure it out.

01:26:59.000 Let's play Ron Paul, here he is.

01:27:02.000 Is your perspective that Tim Geithner needs to dramatically change his approach at this point?

01:27:08.000 We've seen Paul Krugman and other economists say the worst thing that could happen right now is for the government to ease up on the stimulus and other things, that it could lead to another crash.

01:27:16.000 What are your thoughts?

01:27:18.000 Well, it would be good to stimulate the economy, but you don't stimulate it by doing the same thing we've done for 20 years.

01:27:24.000 And the policies that gave us our trouble can hardly be the solution.

01:27:29.000 So spending more money and borrowing more money and inflating the currency will not solve the problem.

01:27:35.000 They're making the assumption that it was lack of regulations that caused our trouble.

01:27:39.000 And yet we had banking regulators and we had SEC regulators and FDIC regulators.

01:27:46.000 We had a ton of regulations and they failed.

01:27:49.000 So they say, well, we just need more.

01:27:50.000 It's sort of like what the outcome of Enron was.

01:27:54.000 We passed Sarbanes-Oxley.

01:27:55.000 Now they're trying to repeal Sarbanes-Oxley because it contributed to the problems of the early part of this decade.

01:28:01.000 So I would say they're on the wrong course, and to me it's very, very disturbing that they have no confidence in the free market, and they have no interest whatsoever in looking at the root cause.

01:28:12.000 And the root cause is easy credit, artificially low interest rates, inflating the currency, excessive spending, excessive debt, too much taxes, and they're going in the wrong direction.

01:28:23.000 And believe me, there's reason for the polls to be shifting away from the administration because they're digging a bigger hole.

01:28:32.000 But Congressman Paul, the first thing you said in that line was easy credit.

01:28:37.000 Are you not at all concerned with the role, for example, that some of the credit rating agencies played in that, which in part allowed people to, A, get more access to credit.

01:28:47.000 I don't just mean individuals, but I mean large corporations.

01:28:50.000 Are you not at all concerned that some of the regulations weren't well enforced?

01:28:54.000 Well, what you're trying to say is the regulations could compensate for the easy credit.

01:29:00.000 It wasn't the regulators who created the credit.

01:29:02.000 It was the Federal Reserve that pumps up the money supply and artificially lowers the interest rates.

01:29:07.000 Then the regulators are supposed to come in and adjust.

01:29:10.000 You might say the housing bubble should have been stopped by the regulators.

01:29:13.000 But Congress and the regulators actually forced some of these subpar loans.

01:29:19.000 They had to give loans with no down payments.

01:29:21.000 And notice that was involved with the regulators.

01:29:23.000 So the regulators failed because the system of regulations can't possibly compensate for the errors that are made by the Federal Reserve in creating a monetary system that is just not stable at all.

01:29:36.000 Congressman Paul, I want to bring in my colleague Chuck Todd, who's the political director for NBC.

01:29:40.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen.

01:29:42.000 We'll be right back after this quick break.

01:29:44.000 Stay with us.

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01:33:03.000 All right.

01:33:30.000 And we're going to finish up this quick Ron Paul clip.

01:33:32.000 I get to the key point where he explains that it's the Federal Reserve that put out all this fiat currency and credit, and that they are going to get more power than Congress.

01:33:42.000 Through this new, quote, overhaul of regulation.

01:33:46.000 Giving the banks unlimited power when they've engineered this crisis.

01:33:50.000 That's supposedly their answer.

01:33:51.000 Give the people that did this more power. 1.00

01:33:54.000 Thinking the public and Congress are stupid. 0.99

01:33:56.000 Not knowing the Federal Reserve is a private holding company for the big central banks. 1.00

01:34:01.000 Here it is.

01:34:03.000 You say you want to get rid of some of this stuff, but obviously there was some missing regulation.

01:34:08.000 Maybe the SEC didn't have enough correct people there.

01:34:11.000 So, you know, where do you regulate?

01:34:15.000 Well, what your statement says is it proves regulation didn't work, or that it was misdirected.

01:34:21.000 The regulation should be on the Federal Reserve.

01:34:23.000 We should have transparency of the Federal Reserve.

01:34:25.000 They can create trillions of dollars to bail out their friends, and we don't even have any transparency of this.

01:34:31.000 They're more powerful than the Congress.

01:34:33.000 So yeah, we do need regulation.

01:34:35.000 But isn't the Treasury Secretary... I mean, one thing about this new plan for the administration is that they actually do want to try...

01:34:42.000 You can read our key stories.

01:34:43.000 We've been screaming this for the last three days since they made this legislation public.

01:34:47.000 And now we have the headline, Ron Paul slams Federal Reserve's new dictatorial powers.

01:34:51.000 They can already steal all the money they want and have no one audit them unless we change the law.

01:34:57.000 But now they're going to be able to seize any company or corporation.

01:35:01.000 I mean, this is, Hitlerian is the only way to properly describe the full magnitude of this. 0.98

01:35:08.000 So we're going to continue to cover that.

01:35:10.000 I'm going to get Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on to talk about this and his investigation of what's really happening in Iran and North Korea coming up this Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

01:35:18.000 with the Sunday syndicated transmission.

01:35:22.000 Now, coming up in about 30 minutes, we're going to have two people in studio, but right now, we have Dr. Neil Carmen, and he is a Ph.D.

01:35:32.000 in biology, and also in several other areas, and we really appreciate him coming on, biology and chemistry, because he works with some of the local Antifluoride groups are trying to expose what this catch-all term really means, like FluorideFreeAustin.com and Ray Naylor Olnick, who's also going to be in studio with us coming up.

01:35:56.000 But Doctor, first off, tell us about yourself, how you got involved in this, and then you've got the documents from the city of Austin, where they get this fluoride, what it really is, There's thousands of government reports.

01:36:07.000 I've had top EPA scientists themselves.

01:36:10.000 The majority of them have signed letters saying, please take this out.

01:36:13.000 It's deadly.

01:36:14.000 They know it gives bone cancer, especially men.

01:36:17.000 I mean, I consider in rant and rave that it calcifies in all the organs, but I mean, you're a PhD in mainly plant biology, but you also study what's happening with mammals as well and can really speak to this.

01:36:30.000 So it's great to have you here with us, Doc.

01:36:32.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:36:34.000 Well, the concerns I have is I worked in laboratories for a long time and it's well known that fluoride is a very toxic substance.

01:36:43.000 It's been known since about 1900 that fluorine in various forms, whether it's an industrial chemical, such as they're adding to the Austin's water supply, or even some naturally occurring fluorides have a certain degree of toxicity to humans, or even some naturally occurring fluorides have a certain degree of toxicity to And so this has been known worldwide for a long time.

01:37:07.000 There's actually a journal, fluoride, that is devoted to the toxicology and the health problems worldwide that different cultures have with naturally occurring fluorides.

01:37:19.000 But we also have industrial fluorides that are produced to use in the refining industry to make high-octane gasoline.

01:37:29.000 The cracking of the oil?

01:37:31.000 Yes.

01:37:32.000 And those facilities, when they use fluoride rather than, they use hydrofluoric acid rather than sulfuric acid, it is the worst case accidental release scenario from those types of facilities.

01:37:44.000 It's used in the computer industry to etch silicon chips because it eats, hydrofluoric acid in this case, will actually eat glass.

01:37:55.000 It's a very corrosive acidic material.

01:37:55.000 It eats concrete.

01:37:59.000 And so the reason I'm very concerned about the city of Austin and many other cities in the U.S.

01:38:04.000 adding fluoride to the water is because they are adding an industrial hazardous waste byproduct of the phosphate fertilizer industry and much of it comes from Florida where they do strip mining for the phosphate rock And fluorine is a very common element in the environment.

01:38:25.000 It's more common than carbon.

01:38:27.000 So there is a lot of fluorine out there.

01:38:29.000 But in the process of mining and processing this phosphate rock to make phosphate fertilizer, they must remove the fluoride because it would be harmful.

01:38:38.000 It would kill the crops if they left it in their phosphate fertilizers.

01:38:43.000 So they remove it, and they have wet scrubbers in several of these fertilizer manufacturing plants in Florida and then they produced a waste with this fluoride in it.

01:38:55.000 And the product that the city buys from a chemical company in Florida that gets it from these phosphate fertilizer plants is hydrofluorosilicic acid.

01:39:05.000 Okay, we're going to go over what that is, because I've had other scientists and doctors on, and there was that famous dentist who got Canada 20 years ago fluoridated, and then he went, oh my God, I thought this was calcium fluoride, which a little bit of it is good for you.

01:39:18.000 No, this isn't even sodium fluoride.

01:39:21.000 This is a catch-all for a whole bunch of toxic waste they just dump.

01:39:26.000 And it goes back, of course, for those that don't know, to the Manhattan Project.

01:39:30.000 They first had to secretly, because they didn't want spies being able to tell what they were doing by what was being shipped out, so they started in Tennessee and other areas dumping the different fluoride byproducts from purifying the uranium into the rivers.

01:39:45.000 And they found, hey, we can do this and it doesn't kill all the fish right away if we don't make it obvious.

01:39:49.000 So they said, what do we do with all this toxic waste of aluminum, fertilizer, uranium, plutonium purification?

01:39:57.000 We'll put it in the water.

01:39:58.000 Just like they put in uranium, they had all this left over from the nuclear industry.

01:40:02.000 So they said, we'll make it a weapons system.

01:40:04.000 And we'll just say it's good for you and not a problem.

01:40:06.000 And so now they're even putting it in construction materials.

01:40:09.000 So what they're doing is dosing poison out, kind of like our ancestors 5,000 years ago would just dump toxic waste right in the river and let somebody handle it downstream.

01:40:18.000 Now they put it directly into the water.

01:40:20.000 But listen, I'm not a chemist.

01:40:21.000 I'm not a degreed scientist, biologist like you are in chemistry and biology.

01:40:26.000 But I know this.

01:40:27.000 When it rains on my yard, the grass goes crazy and turns bright green, the plants are happy.

01:40:31.000 When it's a drought and I've got to water plants myself, the grass turns yellow, they don't even like water hose city water.

01:40:40.000 So I'm no scientist, but I know, and any gardener I know, says collect rainwater, whatever, don't water your plants with it.

01:40:48.000 If I put a goldfish in tap water, it will die by the next day.

01:40:53.000 So I've got to put chemicals in it or or or get a purified water to put my kids goldfish in so why am I drinking it?

01:41:01.000 Well, fluoride is being added to the water out of this claim from the 1940s and the 1950s that's really based on bad science, that it would help children primarily prevent tooth decay as they're developing.

01:41:15.000 But they knew there was a trade-off, and that is that about 10% of the children would develop a condition known as dental fluorosis, which is a staining, a brown discoloration of the teeth that is not very attractive.

01:41:30.000 Bone fractures, yes, because fluoride, actually the fluorine, will replace calcium in the bones.

01:41:36.000 So you get the bones becoming more brittle and it can aggravate people with osteoarthritis.

01:41:45.000 And this isn't debated, it's all admitted.

01:41:46.000 So when I interrupted you, and I want to get back into that, Doc, you started getting into what the chemical is they're putting, what this catch-all term is, and then tell us about this particular document, I want to give people a close-up of, you got from the city of Austin.

01:42:00.000 Yes, we have contract information and also a copy of the material safety data sheet.

01:42:07.000 And there's one from Mosaic, which is the manufacturer of the chemical.

01:42:14.000 And then also it's actually sold through a kind of a front company called Lucier Chemical Industries in Florida.

01:42:20.000 But they admit to the city, and the city told us yesterday that they get it from Mosaic.

01:42:25.000 Mosaic is a merger of Cargill and IMC Global.

01:42:29.000 Which both operate large phosphate fertilizer manufacturing plants and do the strip mining of the phosphate rock in Florida.

01:42:36.000 And this is just distillate crap they'd have to pay to store in the desert, instead they give it to us.

01:42:41.000 Well, it's actually classified by the Environmental Protection Agency as a hazardous industrial waste. 0.82

01:42:49.000 That they can't put into the water, the rivers, because it would be too toxic.

01:42:54.000 They're not supposed to dump it on the land.

01:42:56.000 They can't put it into the air because it's so harmful.

01:42:59.000 And so they sell it to the cities to put in small amounts, they claim.

01:43:04.000 And by the way, other scientists I've had on have made the point, fluoride and its different is one of the hardest things to get through, to filter, to stop, and that it, in the aggregate, builds up in your yard, in your body, in your house.

01:43:19.000 This is hellish.

01:43:19.000 It's a bio-cumulative poison.

01:43:22.000 Oh, that's the word, yes.

01:43:23.000 Bio-accumulates.

01:43:24.000 And so this is one of the things that the city and other municipalities around the country don't take into account, is that fluoride is bio-cumulative.

01:43:33.000 But this is a toxic industrial waste that the public in the U.S.

01:43:39.000 is not aware is being added to the water supply compared to the natural fluoride mineral salts that are in the water, but at lower concentrations.

01:43:49.000 And by the way, it says on here for the workers dumping this in the water, don't touch this, it'll burn you, it'll kill you, it's deadly, just make sure they drink it.

01:43:56.000 And it'll actually, these fluoride compounds actually will penetrate the skin.

01:44:00.000 They're very toxic.

01:44:03.000 Well, I mean, just studying nerve gases that the military developed, most of them are fluoride-based, so I don't understand how they're putting it in our water.

01:44:13.000 Well, that was kind of, it's bad science, it's whatever you want to call it, but there's no epidemiological studies where you've had a fluoridated community on these specific industrial waste products where they've looked for possible health effects.

01:44:30.000 But three years ago at the Harvard Medical School, four researchers published a paper in a journal on cancer in which they compared They found higher levels of bone cancer, osteosarcoma, a rare type of cancer, in boys 7 to 8 years of age in a fluoridated community compared to a non-fluoride drinking community.

01:44:54.000 So they found that there was elevated rates of osteosarcoma and this study has some limitations because they looked at a small group of people.

01:45:03.000 There's a whole bunch of studies around the world.

01:45:06.000 We know that fluoride is extremely toxic and there's definitely concerns that it is a human cancer-causing.

01:45:13.000 Well, have you heard the new thing?

01:45:14.000 They're now saying mercury is good for you because it's coming out that it's in half the corn syrup.

01:45:20.000 That's Washington Post.

01:45:22.000 It's coming out that it's in many products.

01:45:24.000 So the new spin is that mercury is actually good for you.

01:45:28.000 Guys, go to YouTube and Google News says Mercury good for you.

01:45:28.000 I'm not kidding.

01:45:32.000 I'm going to play that off local news, Austin, because I don't want the doc to think I'm making this up.

01:45:36.000 You're going to see Fred Cantu tell you that Mercury is good for you here in just a moment.

01:45:40.000 But please continue.

01:45:43.000 So there's actually many studies.

01:45:45.000 Three years ago, the National Research Council had a panel of 13 scientists who are experts in toxicology, epidemiology, fluoride, and chemistry.

01:45:57.000 And they did a three-year review of over 1,100 studies worldwide about the dangers of fluoride in drinking water.

01:46:04.000 They didn't look specifically at fluoridation, the adding of fluoride to the drinking water.

01:46:09.000 They looked at the whole issue of fluoride toxicology.

01:46:13.000 And they basically determined that the EPA's maximum contaminant level of four parts per million is not protective of human health and that it should be set much lower.

01:46:27.000 But EPA hasn't done anything.

01:46:29.000 And so the city of Austin's position is that as long as their fluoride level that they add to the water is less than this four parts per million level, they think it's safe.

01:46:38.000 But the British, the Russian, the Chinese studies I've seen Show that it's cumulative, so that's a fraud.

01:46:45.000 Right, and also they don't take into account that there's other fluorides.

01:46:49.000 There's fluoride in the food, beverages that are made with fluoridated water.

01:46:54.000 There's quite a bit of it in tea.

01:46:55.000 People brush their teeth with fluoride-containing toothpaste, mouthwashes.

01:46:59.000 There's some pharmaceuticals that some people take that have fluoride in it.

01:47:04.000 Prozac.

01:47:05.000 There's fluorinated pesticides, so there could be some on the fruit.

01:47:10.000 And now they want to spray it.

01:47:11.000 I think I saw it a few years ago that a lot of the new pesticides are fluoride-based. 0.98

01:47:15.000 It kills the bugs and we sit there and eat it like fools.

01:47:18.000 Yeah, because actually what we know, so there's a lot of fluoride exposure from different sources.

01:47:24.000 And so the city of Austin doesn't take into account this wide exposure.

01:47:30.000 Well, we know the lobbyists come in and pay them off.

01:47:32.000 I mean, that's what's going on.

01:47:34.000 I mean, they'll arrest you if you get caught dumping motor oil on the street, and you should be, but I'd much rather have motor oil going around than fluoride that's killing everything.

01:47:42.000 I mean, fish can't live in tap water.

01:47:44.000 Why are we drinking it?

01:47:46.000 I mean, Doc, again, I'm no doctor, but why does a goldfish die in a manner of ours?

01:47:53.000 Everybody should try this, and I don't think it's nice to be cruel to fish, but if it saves human lives, do it.

01:47:59.000 In the sixth grade, you cut up frogs.

01:48:01.000 I think the schools, if it's so good, ought to fill up.

01:48:04.000 A fish tank with fluoridated water right out of the tap there in the science lab, put a fish in it and watch it be deader than a hammer the next day, right next to clean waters out of a river with a fish in it.

01:48:17.000 I think that, something simple like that, will finally get the message across to And the animal rights activists will say, don't kill goldfish.

01:48:25.000 And whereas I don't enjoy killing goldfish, I've got one at my house that's seven years old named Fluffy we're very attached to.

01:48:31.000 If it'll save human lives, how are we going to then not hurt goldfish because it's cruel, but make everybody drink this?

01:48:37.000 Well, what the National Research Council report came out with in 2006 is that the level of fluoride being added to the water is 250 times higher than what is in breast milk.

01:48:49.000 And breast milk, we know mother's milk, it's got a trace, trace level of natural fluoride.

01:48:56.000 Because you need a trace amount.

01:48:57.000 You need a small amount.

01:48:58.000 Don't humans even need a trace amount of cyanide?

01:49:00.000 But you don't want a lot of it.

01:49:02.000 Right, but the whole thing is that there's a very, very low level.

01:49:05.000 And so what they're adding to the water is much higher, 250 times higher than what is considered really safe.

01:49:13.000 And actually, some of the researchers said that with babies there is really no safe level of what's in the water.

01:49:21.000 Well, that was my next point, Doc.

01:49:22.000 When I go to Babies R Us, it's all give your kids fluoride pills, buy the fluoridated water for your baby, and all the studies I've seen say it's three to four times worse for kids' brains and bones than it is for adults.

01:49:34.000 So, is that what you're getting at?

01:49:35.000 Is it really bad for kids?

01:49:36.000 Yes, yes.

01:49:38.000 What we know, and this was first recognized in the 1950s by researchers who were studying enzymes, and all of our cells in our body run partially on enzymes, they're part of the assembly lines that keep everything going, and fluoride poisons at least 62 enzyme systems in the human body.

01:49:58.000 Unbelievable.

01:49:59.000 So it's an endocrine disruptor.

01:50:01.000 Yes, and so some of the early opposition in the 1950s to fluoridation were the biochemists researching enzymes because they knew that fluoride was a powerful poison that interfered with enzymes in the body.

01:50:15.000 Oh, and as soon as that research came out, oh, put it in the water!

01:50:18.000 The Rockefellers just so happened to be eugenicists.

01:50:21.000 But I'm sure, Doc, there's nothing to do with that.

01:50:23.000 We should just trust them and drink it.

01:50:25.000 Well, it is interesting that one of the fluoride compounds used in the manufacture of uranium is uranium hexafluoride.

01:50:34.000 It's a catalyst.

01:50:36.000 And so that was one of the ways that this kind of links back to the Manhattan Project.

01:50:40.000 Uranium hexafluoride, it's got six fluorine atoms in it.

01:50:43.000 It's been well-known, but it's also very toxic.

01:50:46.000 So in using this in the Manhattan Project, along with using other fluoride catalysts in the aluminum industry to smelt aluminum and to various kinds of aluminum products in the steel industry.

01:50:57.000 Gotta break there.

01:50:58.000 Just stay there, Doc.

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01:55:00.000 We have Dr. Neil Harmon.

01:55:04.000 He's a biologist and also a chemist in here with us.

01:55:07.000 And he's fighting locally to expose how deadly poison fluoride is and the other varieties.

01:55:13.000 I'm reading on here, Doc, and it's saying what's in the stuff they put in the Austin water.

01:55:18.000 You just got a tour after months of trying.

01:55:20.000 Of the facility.

01:55:22.000 Some of our folks were in there as well.

01:55:24.000 H2SIF6, I guess is the formula.

01:55:27.000 Hydrofluorosilic acid.

01:55:30.000 But in that itself, I'm told, is a bunch of different things.

01:55:34.000 Right, it's only one of the compounds.

01:55:36.000 There's actually three forms of fluorine in there.

01:55:39.000 There's the hydrofluorosilicic acid, which is the primary fluoride the city is seeking.

01:55:44.000 There's also some elemental fluorine, and there's hydrofluoric acid, and then there's heavy metals, lead, cadmium, chromium.

01:55:53.000 Brilliant, barium, and then there could be other trace impurities.

01:55:58.000 And one of the concerns I have, based upon what the EPA says about the phosphate rock in Florida, is it's known to contain radionuclides, including uranium and thorium.

01:56:10.000 Well, that's where they mine it, is out of the phosphate rock.

01:56:14.000 Yeah.

01:56:15.000 There's huge deposits of phosphate rock in Florida, and it has a lot of impurities in it.

01:56:21.000 Fluorine is just one of the impurities, but there's also... And they don't even purify this.

01:56:25.000 That's what the other doctors have said, and the EPA people I've had on admit that they call it fluoride.

01:56:32.000 Oh, we fluoridate, but really they just take the toxic waste of all these industries and just put it in our water.

01:56:38.000 Well, the city claimed to us that there is some kind of distillation or filtration, but they haven't supplied any documents as to what that is.

01:56:48.000 I know that the company they buy it from, it basically is just kind of like a warehouse to store the chemicals and sell them loose air chemicals.

01:56:58.000 But Mosaic, I don't know what they do, but it's possible that it's just basically directly sold.

01:57:04.000 It's brought here in a large tanker truck.

01:57:08.000 And they declared national security.

01:57:11.000 We wanted to get cameras in and they wouldn't let us have cameras saying national security.

01:57:15.000 And I guess it is national security to give us this toxic chemical.

01:57:19.000 Well, their issue with that, Alex, is that you've got this drinking water supply for the whole city of Austin.

01:57:26.000 Somebody might put poison in it like them!

01:57:28.000 Right, right.

01:57:29.000 So, you know, but what's interesting is that the fluoridation storage at the water treatment plant is in a kind of, it's in a totally contained building with warnings on it because of the corrosive nature of the hydrofluorosilicic acid that they store there in two fiberglass tanks.

01:57:48.000 Skull and crossbones.

01:57:50.000 So it's a self-contained building that cost a great deal to construct and to operate this because of the hazardous nature of this chemical that they're adding to the water.

01:58:01.000 Amazing.

01:58:02.000 Now, coming in, you got to see that clip, because I know it sounds crazy when I say that the news is saying mercury is good for your brain.

01:58:09.000 That was a national report, a local version of it.

01:58:11.000 It was put out by CBS News as a press release.

01:58:14.000 I also have a clip, in time I'm not going to play it, saying lead is good for children on MSNBC.

01:58:20.000 Doctor, does that sound normal to you?

01:58:22.000 No, because basically there's different pediatricians who have done research in the U.S.

01:58:27.000 on lead, and people like Dr. Phil Landrigan, who was here in Austin two months ago, say there is no safe level of lead exposure.

01:58:34.000 What about mercury, though?

01:58:36.000 And mercury is also highly toxic, so... I mean, that's vitamin M. We'll be right back in 60 seconds.

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02:00:00.000 All right, in the next segment, we've got Ray Nadler Olnick coming in.

02:00:17.000 She heads up fluoridefreeaustin.com fighting the city council that gets the lobbying money from these chemical companies to take the byproducts of the petrochemical industry. 0.80

02:00:29.000 And the fertilizer industry, the aluminum purification industry, and it dumps it right in our water supply.

02:00:35.000 And we're talking to a PhD doctor of chemistry and biology, Dr. Neil Carman.

02:00:43.000 Doc, is there a particular way for people to read your research or a website where people can find out more about you, or is the best place just fluoridefreeaustin.com?

02:00:51.000 Well, Dr. Paul Conant in New York has a great website, fluoridealert.org, and he has a list of over 2,535 professionals, PhDs, medical doctors, dentists, nurses, and other neurologists who have signed on to this professional statement.

02:01:13.000 Calling for an end to fluoridation in the United States, because in Europe there is virtually no fluoridation.

02:01:19.000 They determined over there, based on medical toxicology and health studies, that this is not good to be doing to the public.

02:01:26.000 And it weakens teeth!

02:01:27.000 I mean, my dad's a dentist and didn't believe me, and over the years I gave him documents and he now agrees I'm right.

02:01:32.000 Yes, yes.

02:01:33.000 So actually the U.S.

02:01:34.000 is the primary country in the world where fluoridation is commonly practiced.

02:01:38.000 Well look, I was never a hypochondriac.

02:01:41.000 I got sick like twice a year.

02:01:42.000 I could have a broken collarbone and not want to go to the doctor.

02:01:45.000 So I wasn't imagining it.

02:01:46.000 I would brush my teeth real good.

02:01:48.000 My daddy was a dentist.

02:01:49.000 And I always remember laying down on the couch having a headache.

02:01:52.000 Where I almost got to where I didn't like to brush my teeth until I was finally about 16, 17, and I figured I could go to the store and buy Toms of Maine without it.

02:02:00.000 I figured out, before I ever heard of this, that fluoride was giving me headaches.

02:02:04.000 Well, and actually, every toothpaste container that has fluoride in it in the U.S.

02:02:10.000 is required to have a toxic warning label that if a child ingests too much of this, they are supposed to call the poison control center.

02:02:20.000 Now, 20-25 years ago, there was actually a skull and crossbones warning label on every toothpaste and box of toothpaste because of the fluoride that they've added.

02:02:29.000 So the toothpaste is a big issue because already children are getting dosed every time they brush their teeth.

02:02:37.000 They're getting some fluoride.

02:02:38.000 They're ingesting a lot.

02:02:41.000 They say if you get a pea-sized amount, most kids swallow that much, called poison control immediately.

02:02:45.000 The kids don't.

02:02:46.000 They eat the toothpaste, go collapse on the couch.

02:02:48.000 And I've seen the studies about IQ reduction.

02:02:51.000 I mean, it's a fact.

02:02:52.000 Then they make jokes about it, kind of like now I say Mercury's bad for you.

02:02:56.000 And they go, no, I saw the news.

02:02:57.000 It's good.

02:02:57.000 You're a conspiracy theorist.

02:02:59.000 You're a chemist.

02:03:00.000 You're somebody who studied biology.

02:03:01.000 You're a scientist.

02:03:03.000 Is Mercury good for the brain?

02:03:04.000 I don't think so.

02:03:05.000 I haven't seen evidence that I subscribe to that mercury has any health benefits to the body.

02:03:13.000 Well under an electron microscope at the University of Calgary we've shown, in fact I want to show people that.

02:03:18.000 Google electron microscope video mercury brain tissue and this is monkey brain tissue and it's the only heavy metal they found that causes an electrochemical almost explosion chain reaction.

02:03:30.000 Normal plaques It just builds up as a plaque and only kills what it touches, but this causes an electrochemical short circuit.

02:03:37.000 Right, I've seen that.

02:03:39.000 It looks very well done, because it shows the neuron shrinking away from the mercury.

02:03:44.000 But maybe you haven't had enough mercury, Doc.

02:03:46.000 Maybe that's why you think it's bad.

02:03:48.000 Maybe if you'd eat more, you could join the rest of the normal people that can hardly talk now.

02:03:52.000 Have you seen how a lot of adults can hardly talk now?

02:03:55.000 Maybe you need more mercury and fluoride, Doc.

02:03:58.000 Well, we've known actually, if you study biochemistry like I took, you know, a long time ago, one of the classic ways to basically kill protein function is with heavy metals like lead and mercury.

02:04:10.000 So we've known for a long time that these toxic metals are very bad for biological systems.

02:04:16.000 Dr. Karman, everybody knows mercury is good.

02:04:18.000 That's why they give it to kids. 0.51

02:04:19.000 That's why they have mercury bottles at the Whole Foods.

02:04:22.000 If you go there in the vitamin section, it's vitamin M.

02:04:28.000 Well, I disagree.

02:04:29.000 I think mercury is extremely harmful.

02:04:31.000 We've seen studies where a single gram of mercury, which is about the size of a grain of rice, will contaminate a 20-acre lake so that the fish are too toxic with methylmercury concentrations to eat.

02:04:43.000 The government says it's good.

02:04:43.000 But wait!

02:04:46.000 Why don't you just trust them and be a patriot?

02:04:48.000 I mean, you know, I think I should just drink mercury on air and prove to everybody this is nutritious and good.

02:04:56.000 You know what?

02:04:56.000 This is extreme.

02:04:57.000 We're gonna come back more and talk about these people that don't think we should be drinking sodium fluoride.

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02:08:19.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:08:24.000 Ray Nadler Olnick, who heads up fluoridefreeaustin.com, is now joining us in studio with Dr. Neil Carman, who I have been Bring up a lot of points, but I want to give him a few minutes before we go to her, and then get her take on this.

02:08:40.000 She's fighting it in Austin and around the country, and certainly people should contact her there if you want to get involved with Fluoride Free Austin.

02:08:47.000 Because I would like to have, we have great aquifer water here, and I'd like to not have to be drinking water that I have shipped in from Arkansas, or water that I drink out of my big Berkey.

02:08:59.000 Because even with that, Even with the big Berkey, it only cuts out 95% or so. 1.00

02:09:04.000 That's why we now use the Ecolablue, and speak of the devil, I had them set up for a 5-minute interview weeks ago, not knowing it coincided right from when they were on.

02:09:13.000 So it's not being done on purpose, where I'm here exposing fluoride, and then talking about the one way to make sure you're not drinking it, atmospheric water generators.

02:09:21.000 So that's coming up in a moment.

02:09:22.000 But sir, you were talking about Google Earth during the break, and zooming in on these on these mines with a byproduct are all these different things, not just the fluoride type chemicals that are being put in our water supply and other points that need to be made.

02:09:38.000 Yes, there's a county in Florida where a group of these plants, that Mosaic and several other companies operate, it's Polk County, near the cities, small cities called, let's see, one is Bartow and also Mulberry.

02:09:53.000 And right around those cities you see these large strip mining operations for the phosphate rock, and that's where the phosphate fertilizer manufacturing plants are located.

02:10:02.000 And then you can also see large waste piles of the phosphogypsum that's too contaminated with the radionuclides, uranium and thorium.

02:10:13.000 They don't know what to do with it.

02:10:14.000 The state of Florida, the EPA, these companies, It's too toxic to sell anywhere.

02:10:19.000 But you can go on Google Earth and see these large strip mining operations and huge waste piles.

02:10:24.000 I mean, it looks like small mountains, literally, of the phosphogypsum waste.

02:10:30.000 And that's where this waste product, this industrial hazardous waste containing fluoride, is coming from.

02:10:40.000 Manufacturing plants.

02:10:41.000 So we shouldn't say they're putting fluoride in our water.

02:10:43.000 That's a cover term.

02:10:45.000 That's bad enough.

02:10:45.000 They're putting the toxic waste in our water.

02:10:48.000 I mean, this is not naturally occurring fluoride.

02:10:48.000 Right, right.

02:10:51.000 This is an industrial toxic fluoride waste product from the phosphate fertilizer manufacturing sector.

02:10:59.000 There's a few other industries where they generate some fluorides as well.

02:11:03.000 From copper smelting and aluminum smelting and the steel industry.

02:11:09.000 So there can be other sources of this fluoride as well.

02:11:13.000 Amazing.

02:11:14.000 What do we do about this?

02:11:16.000 You guys did a tour there.

02:11:17.000 We heard about it and kind of came in under your wing.

02:11:21.000 We appreciate you guys contacting us and the work you're doing.

02:11:26.000 If we just get more Austinites or more people listening in upstate New York or Chicago or California right now.

02:11:31.000 We have listeners all over the country.

02:11:32.000 We have over 80 affiliates, XM Radio listening right now.

02:11:36.000 This is really toxic waste.

02:11:38.000 You guys are fighting if more people would stand up.

02:11:41.000 The majority of the EPA scientists, I know, signed letters.

02:11:44.000 We've had their head on saying this is toxic waste.

02:11:47.000 The government doesn't like this.

02:11:48.000 The people that actually work in the government know it's bad.

02:11:51.000 How do we end this?

02:11:52.000 And then tell us about the tour and we'll get some comments from Ray Nadler Olnick.

02:12:01.000 Ray has been speaking to the City Council, so she should talk about that.

02:12:05.000 Yeah, tell us about solutions.

02:12:07.000 Yes, actually, my idea came from you.

02:12:12.000 Oh, really?

02:12:14.000 For spurring people to take it?

02:12:15.000 I didn't know that.

02:12:17.000 It partly came from Joyce Rowley, and it partly came earlier from circumstances, which we can go back to if you want.

02:12:23.000 But basically, the idea of fluoride had entered my mind.

02:12:27.000 I had heard you talking about it more and more on the radio, and I listened to you every day.

02:12:32.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

02:12:34.000 Oh, faithfully.

02:12:34.000 Oh, yeah.

02:12:35.000 And one day last fall, A man called in from another state.

02:12:43.000 I think it was Pennsylvania.

02:12:44.000 He was not a Texan.

02:12:45.000 And he said, I've been trying to wake the people up around me to fluoride and they just aren't listening to me.

02:12:53.000 They dismiss it.

02:12:54.000 What should I do?

02:12:54.000 They shrug it off.

02:12:56.000 And you said, among other things, you said, Get active, go to City Hall, become known as the guy who talks about fluoride every week.

02:13:06.000 And you had other suggestions too, like start a radio program, advertise filters, water filters, as a way to fund yourself.

02:13:15.000 Exactly, that way you're helping people and funding yourself.

02:13:18.000 It's symbiotic.

02:13:19.000 It is.

02:13:20.000 But what really struck me was, bingo, I can do that.

02:13:23.000 I have the time flexibility to do that.

02:13:27.000 And I studied.

02:13:29.000 I was a total political virgin.

02:13:32.000 I will have to say I have never lifted a finger in activism before, although I have given money.

02:13:37.000 To all my favorite broadcasters, including you.

02:13:40.000 But there you go, the 600 into the valley.

02:13:43.000 Oh my gosh, yes.

02:13:45.000 Yes, I studied it a little and I came to realize that they had the citizen communication at noon, when most people can't come.

02:13:53.000 This is for communications.

02:13:55.000 It used to be at night, now they've made it so hard.

02:13:58.000 You've got to sign up a week before.

02:14:00.000 Two weeks.

02:14:01.000 Two weeks.

02:14:01.000 Oh, now it'll actually be one year.

02:14:03.000 It's two weeks.

02:14:03.000 Twenty years, Bob.

02:14:04.000 Right, exactly.

02:14:05.000 They don't want to hear from you.

02:14:06.000 I had been under the impression it was evenings, too.

02:14:09.000 Well, I guess they keep changing it.

02:14:11.000 Well, this is for items that are not on the, what do you call it, on the agenda.

02:14:16.000 So what you do is scan the agenda.

02:14:18.000 Anything on water-related, you can come in.

02:14:21.000 You're right.

02:14:22.000 And anything that's related to the environment.

02:14:30.000 We have just started talking before the Environmental Board in a similar way.

02:14:36.000 That suggestion came to me from Neil and also from Paul Robbins, who is a very a very well-known activist in Austin, in fact, the editor of the Austin Environmental Directory.

02:14:49.000 And he had that idea, so now I'm going to be doing it not only on council meetings, but also...

02:14:57.000 What we need is more people like you.

02:14:59.000 We're going to try to get that.

02:15:01.000 And, in fact, on this program, people who are interested will hear about it.

02:15:05.000 And don't let them stop you.

02:15:06.000 I mean, pretty soon they're just going to get rid of it altogether, but then you just go speak on items, you just go check each week what the agenda is.

02:15:12.000 But go sign up, take your lunch off, take a bag lunch and eat it while you're driving down there, and go let these creatures know that you don't want this poison in the water.

02:15:22.000 I mean, it's not our opinion.

02:15:24.000 A fish can't live in it.

02:15:26.000 I know that.

02:15:27.000 Well, I mean, I know you know, but the listeners, new listeners, don't know.

02:15:30.000 Yeah, what we were told yesterday on the tour, as Ray saw, is that all the city has to do is turn the little tap off where the hydrofluoric acid is coming out, or hydrofluorosilicic acid, and so Ray might want to point that out, too.

02:15:44.000 I mean, that was quite amazing that the city said all they have to do is just turn it off and stop it.

02:15:48.000 Well, there's laws against forced medication, and they say they're doing it for our teeth, and all the studies say it makes them fracture and gives you dental fluorosis.

02:15:56.000 And now, the American Dental Association, as you know, two years ago began recommending children not brush their teeth with it! 0.98

02:16:02.000 I mean, even the Dental Association says it's bad, but we can't get these bastards to take it out of our water! 0.98

02:16:08.000 I'm sorry! 0.69

02:16:09.000 They also said, the Centers for Disease Control and the American Dental Association, that fluoridated water should not be used to make up infant form Well, it's your activities and everybody else taking action.

02:16:24.000 We're having victories here, but I'm going to shut up, because we've got a guest popping in with you on the same subject in the next segment, and we're going to keep you until 40 after.

02:16:31.000 Gary Talis has been vindicated, 9-11 truther. 0.82

02:16:34.000 A bit of slander by Fox News is coming on, but that's a separate issue at the end of the show.

02:16:38.000 Tell us about what happened at this tour.

02:16:41.000 My guys were there, but they had to turn their cameras off for national security.

02:16:45.000 Tell us how you got in, what happened, how important this was.

02:16:48.000 Well, a month ago I decided that it would be a good idea to request a tour from the city, so they agreed, and then I said that other people would like to join the tour.

02:17:00.000 I thought it would be a great educational opportunity for people to see how the water purification plant works for the city and where they're adding the fluoride and to hear this straight from them.

02:17:09.000 And so we toured most of the plant.

02:17:13.000 And when we came to this containment building where they have two hydrofluorosilicic acid storage tanks, several thousand gallons in size, that building, I mean, it's a containment building.

02:17:26.000 So if there's a leak, everything is contained in there.

02:17:29.000 But it's obvious that doors are labeled, that this is a highly toxic, corrosive, acidic material.

02:17:36.000 And they've got a shower in there in case you get exposed.

02:17:40.000 And you could see some signs of corrosion to some of the paint and materials where there's probably been some vapor leak because this is such a corrosive material.

02:17:50.000 In fact, where the tanker truck comes in and unloads vapors, the liquid hydrofluorosolistic acid into the pipes to fill the tanks.

02:17:59.000 You could see where there had been leaks, and the concrete was corroded on the ground.

02:18:05.000 It was kind of eaten away, where a few drops of this stuff have gotten down.

02:18:09.000 And on all the lines that the city has there, the lines containing this chemical are all specially colored and labeled that this has fluoride in it.

02:18:19.000 Well, I just want to point out that we drilled the well on our family property in East Texas into the Kichai level.

02:18:27.000 That's 600 feet down.

02:18:29.000 It's a little aquifer.

02:18:30.000 And I have family that runs the local water district.

02:18:33.000 They work there.

02:18:36.000 They're at the plant.

02:18:39.000 It's my uncle's wife's brother.

02:18:42.000 But the point is, he said it's the purest, best water, aquifer water, and they make them add all these chemicals under federal law.

02:18:49.000 He thought it was some mandate.

02:18:50.000 But the issue is, Austin has great aquifer water.

02:18:53.000 There's no reason to be doing any of this, adding chlorine, any of it.

02:18:57.000 I mean, that's a whole other subject.

02:18:59.000 I mean, if you've got aquifer water, and you're not drinking out of some toxic reservoir that's got sewage in it, like Dallas or something, why on earth would you put anything in the best water there is?

02:19:10.000 Well, they definitely talked about the different treatment chemicals that they're adding, but our tour was more focused on the fluoride, but they went through the water treatment and purification process, the filtration process, so it was very interesting.

02:19:25.000 I think we learned a great deal, but we could see from our own eyes that they're doing this fluoridation.

02:19:31.000 Actively there.

02:19:32.000 They're putting so many gallons in, you know, a day.

02:19:35.000 And they have to keep buying this chemical product.

02:19:37.000 But if people, you know, wanted this stopped by, you know, calling, emailing the mayor and the city council, going down to speak, the city could easily turn it off and probably save a million dollars a year.

02:19:49.000 That's right.

02:19:50.000 That's the other point.

02:19:51.000 I've seen the studies.

02:19:52.000 This is toxic waste these mining companies would have to pay to get rid of.

02:19:55.000 Instead, they make us buy it. 1.00

02:19:57.000 What schmucks. 1.00

02:19:58.000 Let's talk more about taking action against this when we get back. 1.00

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02:24:23.000 And I didn't mean to have this guest on today when they were on, but it dovetails together perfectly.

02:24:29.000 Tyler Palmer for this quick segment.

02:24:32.000 He's the developer and one of the owners of acolablue.com, atmospheric water generators.

02:24:38.000 And I was telling my guest, hey, I've got a In the middle of our interview, we have somebody on to talk about water filtration.

02:24:44.000 And the doc was saying, well, you know, even filters only cut some of it out.

02:24:47.000 And I said, no.

02:24:48.000 This is atmospheric water generator.

02:24:50.000 It's grabbing it out of the air, then putting it through reverse osmosis, carbon filters, you name it.

02:24:56.000 But it is good to have Tyler Palmer on with us.

02:24:59.000 Tyler, a perfect, perfect day to have you on.

02:25:02.000 We're talking about forced fluoridation of the water supply with folks here in Austin.

02:25:07.000 Yeah, Alex, it's a fascinating show and I'm glad to be here.

02:25:10.000 It's correct that people would need very expensive ultrafiltration, if not reverse osmosis systems.

02:25:22.000 The price is in $10,000 to $20,000 to be able to get fluoride out of the drinking water.

02:25:28.000 Fortunately, we have our atmospheric water generator which condenses humidity in the air and filters the water and delivers about a pure water Yeah, well yeah, I mean absolutely.

02:25:42.000 I have children, so I looked into this.

02:25:44.000 And a big murky reduces it, cuts a lot of it out.

02:25:48.000 Reverse osmosis, 90 something percent.

02:25:51.000 Because fluoride's so little, it stays in the water.

02:25:54.000 It's just perfect for this.

02:25:56.000 But if it's out of the air, there is almost no fluoride in the air.

02:26:00.000 There's some trace amounts because it's sprayed on lawns and blowing around.

02:26:03.000 Explain that to people and tell folks about the Ecola Blue System.

02:26:07.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:26:08.000 The molecular weight of fluorosilicic acid is about 144.08 atomic mass units, so it's actually very small.

02:26:20.000 Most ultrafiltration systems Cut off at about 1,000 AMU's.

02:26:25.000 Yeah, the doc is nodding his head.

02:26:28.000 Doc, you're saying that Pallor Palmer's right?

02:26:32.000 Yes, on the molecular weight, yes.

02:26:34.000 So it's very hard for regular filters to cut this out?

02:26:36.000 It's a very small molecule.

02:26:37.000 Yes.

02:26:39.000 And it's so sneaky.

02:26:41.000 It gets in places.

02:26:42.000 It sticks to things.

02:26:44.000 It's got a very low pH.

02:26:47.000 About 1.2, if not Lower, that's I think lower than stomach acid, so it's just not a very pleasant thing to have in your water and or to have to deal with.

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02:33:02.000 Coming up, I'm going to engage in a big news blitz, an equivalent Laura Bush case, heckling case, United Press International.

02:33:22.000 We'll talk about that coming up.

02:33:30.000 But right now, going back to Dr. Neal Karman, anti-fluoride activist here in Austin, Texas, anti-fluoridation activist, and Ray Nadler Olnick.

02:33:38.000 Okay, so we're fighting it here in Austin, it's the same thing all over the country, and you've got all these environmentalists, Again, environmentalism has all this reasonable, smart stuff like, let's not poison the environment, let's not have pollution, let's not toxify ourselves.

02:33:52.000 But it seems like the Austin City Council only wants to grab people's property for environmental preserves and later build skyscrapers on it.

02:34:01.000 Want to be realtors like Kirk Watson is now, the big realtor here in town.

02:34:05.000 This is a real environmental issue for the environment, the birds, the bees, the plants, human beings.

02:34:11.000 So this is something affecting everybody with the fluoridation.

02:34:15.000 And you were telling me, Doc, you guys saw where the fluoride, or what they call fluoride, this witch's brew was going in.

02:34:22.000 Yes.

02:34:23.000 They had one of the units, one of the storage tanks still had a small amount of fluoride in it.

02:34:28.000 They were expecting another shipment very soon from Florida.

02:34:32.000 And so the pump was actively pumping a small amount of fluoride, putting it into the water, mixing it there.

02:34:40.000 They explained the whole process.

02:34:42.000 Lovingly mixing it, though.

02:34:43.000 Right.

02:34:44.000 We got to see the whole thing.

02:34:46.000 And so, I mean, the city is spending a lot of money a year.

02:34:49.000 They just renewed the contract.

02:34:52.000 Yes.

02:34:53.000 The city had a contract of which I had the cover page, but I didn't have the entire contract.

02:35:00.000 And I was getting information off of the cover page, which gave some summaries.

02:35:06.000 They had a contract that was set to run from March 08 through March 2010 with three optional one-year extensions.

02:35:16.000 And the amount of money that it was to cost was approximately $600,000 a year.

02:35:26.000 Wow.

02:35:27.000 Now, this past March, they suddenly renewed that contract.

02:35:36.000 They canceled that contract and issued a new one, which is apparently legal.

02:35:41.000 There must be something written into the contract that allows that to happen.

02:35:46.000 And in fact, I have now requested through Freedom of Information both contracts.

02:35:53.000 We don't know if it's more or less.

02:35:55.000 No, it's more.

02:35:56.000 It's way more.

02:35:58.000 What they did, they issued a new one.

02:36:00.000 for an amount of approximately 700,000 for this one runs from 2009 to 2011.

02:36:13.000 Is that 700,000 a year?

02:36:16.000 A year.

02:36:17.000 And then the three extensions that they're locked into, presumably, are $910,000 a year for the next three years.

02:36:26.000 That would be starting in 2011.

02:36:28.000 So we mean millions and millions of dollars, and they admit this is the toxic waste A fertilizer production, aluminum purification, and nuclear weapons production.

02:36:39.000 And they would have to pay to put this in mine shafts in Utah or Nevada.

02:36:44.000 Instead, they have us pay to drink it.

02:36:49.000 Yes.

02:36:49.000 You know it's not going to go down.

02:36:51.000 And in fact, I subpoenaed some documents.

02:36:55.000 Wow, you're really getting busy.

02:36:57.000 I am getting busy.

02:36:59.000 This is all new to me, and I'm learning as I go.

02:37:02.000 And the reason given for this by Lucier was that their own supplier, which is Mosaic, the actual manufacturer, had suddenly doubled their price.

02:37:14.000 Just overnight, they doubled it.

02:37:16.000 So Lucier was kindly going to pass on a little less of that cost.

02:37:21.000 They wanted an increase in 37%.

02:37:25.000 So everybody else is losing their jobs or taking pay cuts, the economy's imploding, and they're going, hey, we got some toxic waste! 0.96

02:37:32.000 Hey, the suckers in Austin and every other city, we're doubling! 0.84

02:37:35.000 And how about triple? 0.96

02:37:36.000 How about we all sell our houses and become homeless and we'll pay $10 billion for the toxic waste?

02:37:42.000 I mean, see, it's just like with the banks, how we're paying them $14.8 trillion of our money to go loot the world, and then we pay interest on the money that taxpayers are going to pay I mean, who comes up with these diabolical frauds?

02:38:00.000 Well, and we don't even know the total cost of the program.

02:38:03.000 That's just the chemical purchasing cost from the company in Florida for the toxic industrial fertilizer waste.

02:38:09.000 But there's also, there's got to be some... The building, the storage, the shipping, the insurance, the... And so forth, yes.

02:38:16.000 It has to be very expensive.

02:38:18.000 I mean, we figure it's got to be over a million a year.

02:38:20.000 This is some estimates we've seen from other cities around the country, where the cost of the chemical is maybe 50 to 60 percent.

02:38:26.000 Then, these corrosive chemicals eat up your pumps and equipment, so pipes, so... They've got to have insurance policies.

02:38:32.000 Right, right.

02:38:33.000 And the workers have to be very careful.

02:38:35.000 That was the reason why recently the city of Elgin, which is just northeast of Austin on 290, voted not to continue fluoridation anymore.

02:38:44.000 And so did Alamo Heights on the north side of San Antonio.

02:38:47.000 Yeah, that's the point I was going to make.

02:38:49.000 San Antonio anti-fluoride group has really been one of the biggest in the country.

02:38:53.000 And in closing, we are having victories. 0.94

02:38:55.000 We can affect change if people get involved and point out what a ridiculous fraud this is.

02:39:02.000 Yeah, there's actually a list of over 212 U.S.

02:39:06.000 cities that have now shot down fluoridation.

02:39:10.000 Artificial water fluoridation.

02:39:11.000 There is a lot of money on the other side.

02:39:14.000 And that is really the sum and substance of it.

02:39:18.000 And people are deep, deep in denial.

02:39:21.000 For instance, the CDC who can advise against giving fluoride to infants and at the same time insist vehemently that it's one of the 10 greatest public health measures of the 20th century.

02:39:36.000 That's what I was going to say.

02:39:37.000 How can they say, don't give it to infants, it hurts their brains and bone development.

02:39:41.000 That's admitted now.

02:39:42.000 Official government.

02:39:43.000 But then when you go in the store, it's give fluoride to your kids.

02:39:46.000 I mean, it's not just that they don't care and are making money.

02:39:50.000 There's a very sick agenda here.

02:39:52.000 Because we know the neurological effects it has.

02:39:52.000 Oh yeah.

02:39:54.000 That's a fact.

02:39:55.000 And you know, they can make all the Dr. Strange loves they want making fun of us.

02:39:59.000 I have the reports from major universities, we've read them on air, where they knew, the University of Texas in the 30s, had studies on fluoride and its effects on the brain.

02:40:09.000 And so, when you search them, some of the first you find is German studies and U.S.

02:40:14.000 studies at the University of Texas.

02:40:15.000 I don't know if you've seen those, Doc, but it's amazing.

02:40:18.000 Right, well, it's because of fluoride compounds as a flux for smelting was very, very important to the war effort.

02:40:31.000 Steel and aluminum and uranium All require large amounts of calcium fluoride or sodium fluoride in their process.

02:40:40.000 And it's cost prohibitive to store it in toxic dumps, so make people drink it.

02:40:45.000 And it makes them sit down and shut up.

02:40:47.000 Well, they wind up producing a lot of fluoride waste products.

02:40:51.000 And the workers were being harmed.

02:40:54.000 Some of them were actually dying.

02:40:56.000 So there were lawsuits being filed in the 1940s.

02:40:56.000 Neighbors.

02:40:58.000 Tennessee.

02:40:59.000 The aluminum industry, the steel industry, and governmental agencies said, well, this is a problem.

02:41:05.000 We've got to quash these lawsuits.

02:41:07.000 Look, I want to have you both back in the next few months as this develops, and please continue your fight.

02:41:14.000 Thank you for your help.

02:41:15.000 Videotape your city council confrontations, because I'm going to make a film about the whole eugenics angles. 0.92

02:41:21.000 We have their documents.

02:41:22.000 You know, why they're doing this.

02:41:24.000 You wonder why the public's so passive.

02:41:26.000 The drugs, the entertainment, the GMO foods, all of this is putting people in a very docile, docile state.

02:41:32.000 And Doctor, I want to thank you for joining us.

02:41:35.000 Dr. Neil Carman, and I want to thank Ray Nadler, Olnick, also anti-fluoridation activist, fluoridefreeaustin.com.

02:41:43.000 Volunteers, get involved.

02:41:44.000 There's anti-fluoride groups in every major city and in small towns.

02:41:47.000 Just Google the name of your town or city, and if there isn't one in your city, Do what this great lady did. 0.64

02:41:53.000 Do what Ray did.

02:41:54.000 Start your own group because she's really starting to make some headway thanks to people that she's collaborating with like you, Doctor.

02:42:01.000 So I commend you both and God bless you.

02:42:03.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:42:05.000 Get some free Obama deceptions or end games on your way out.

02:42:09.000 Thank you so much.

02:42:10.000 Thank you much for coming in.

02:42:11.000 Okay, now we've got a real trooper on the line.

02:42:14.000 I appreciate him holding while I finish up with those guests.

02:42:17.000 I've got a real trooper here.

02:42:19.000 I know Luke Hradowski isn't a liar.

02:42:21.000 And the other We Are Changers I know personally aren't liars.

02:42:24.000 They've always told me the truth.

02:42:25.000 They're stand-up people that take death threats, harassment.

02:42:28.000 Police come up and arrest them, saying their cameras are machine guns and that their backpacks are bombs and we know you're not terrorists but we're going to say you are.

02:42:36.000 I knew they were getting death threats, death threats to their family.

02:42:39.000 And I knew that German Talos, that's his nickname, was really getting demonized when I saw this in the news.

02:42:48.000 Gary Talos, again, nicknamed German Talos.

02:42:51.000 And I remember when this all happened, they said, yeah, we were just walking out, didn't have it on camera because we didn't have our cameras on.

02:42:58.000 We were going to ask questions of Laura Bush at an event.

02:43:02.000 And it turns out a Republican fundraiser in New York construction, they said, comes over with his daughter in a wheelchair and starts bashing, comes across the street with her screaming, why are you hitting my daughter?

02:43:13.000 Why are you hitting my daughter? 0.98

02:43:15.000 And there were surveillance cameras, and the police wouldn't release them, and then said there was no tape, but that they saw Gary beating her savagely, and that Secret Service swore to it.

02:43:24.000 But I believed Gary, and I believed Luke, and I believed the other witnesses.

02:43:27.000 It was a total setup.

02:43:28.000 Then we found out this father is really hooked up, if you know what I mean, really connected in New York, juiced up, as they say, into the power structure.

02:43:41.000 And this was a black op.

02:43:44.000 And Sean Hannity had her on and said, oh, and you could hear somebody whispering, like, say this, and she'd go, so, Sean Hannity, so they attacked you.

02:43:53.000 Hold on.

02:43:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:43:55.000 Oh, that's what I say?

02:43:55.000 Yeah, they did.

02:43:57.000 And then Fox News and New York Post and all of this.

02:44:02.000 And here's UPI today, acquittal in Laura Bush heckling case.

02:44:06.000 A New York jury has acquitted a 24-year-old man accused of heckling Laura Bush, oh how dare you, and Jenna Bush, and assaulting a wheelchair-bound teenager and her family.

02:44:16.000 Next they'll say Ahmed Dinegi did that.

02:44:17.000 I mean, it's just made-up CIA baloney.

02:44:20.000 The New York Post reported Wednesday a Manhattan's criminal court jury acquitted Gary Tallis.

02:44:24.000 Imagine, they said he was going to prison, felonies.

02:44:26.000 But he stood up, he fought back, he said, I'm innocent.

02:44:30.000 And it just goes on from there.

02:44:32.000 So Gary, in the time we have, they threw the book at you, the Secret Service lied, the cops lied.

02:44:38.000 But you said, look, I don't care what you threaten with me.

02:44:41.000 I'm not plea bargaining.

02:44:42.000 I didn't do this.

02:44:43.000 I was assaulted by them.

02:44:46.000 And I was recapping the story from a year ago.

02:44:47.000 That's correct.

02:44:48.000 He came over to you and was going, don't hit her! 1.00

02:44:50.000 Don't hit her! 0.97

02:44:51.000 Don't hit her! 0.97

02:44:51.000 And started choking you and attacking. 0.97

02:44:53.000 Why are you hurting the girl? 0.57

02:44:54.000 Why?

02:44:55.000 You know, I mean, we should do a reenactment of me with a wheelchair going, don't hurt her! 0.98

02:44:58.000 Don't hurt her! 0.84

02:44:59.000 I mean, you know, just they love using things like that.

02:45:02.000 Describe what happened.

02:45:03.000 It was an adventure, that's all I could say.

02:45:07.000 Basically, I was too strong for this whole tie-up.

02:45:10.000 They wanted to give me community service as a plea bargain for just saying, okay, I hit the girl, but I did not hit the dad. 0.99

02:45:17.000 I'm just this pathetic weakling that attacks girls. 0.99

02:45:19.000 I'm not credible, and that's what they wanted to do to me. 0.99

02:45:22.000 They were actually trying to give me a year in jail, and then they were trying to throw me this plea bargain just so I could say guilty that I hit a girl in the wheelchair, but I did not touch the 300-pound father.

02:45:32.000 Okay, now describe what the 300-pound goblin did to you.

02:45:37.000 Well, I was just at the George Bush event. 0.96

02:45:39.000 This guy, you know, me being 145 pounds, he's too cowardly enough to face me face-to-face. 0.92

02:45:46.000 He decides to ram his handicapped daughter into my side, into my back, while screaming. 0.99

02:45:51.000 Look, he's hitting my daughter at the same time, simultaneously started hitting me in the back of my head.

02:45:55.000 Gary, back off your phone a bit.

02:45:57.000 You're overdriving.

02:45:58.000 Describe the scene.

02:45:59.000 You're there to heckle the Lord, Laura Bush.

02:46:03.000 You're peacefully out there outside and the witnesses all told me the same thing.

02:46:08.000 He comes across running and screaming and then you try to get away and he starts ramming you.

02:46:13.000 Ramming you, screaming, don't attack her. 0.99

02:46:15.000 That's accurate.

02:46:17.000 Something like that.

02:46:17.000 He hit me from the back and he screamed in the beginning.

02:46:20.000 He tried to do it in a deceptive manner.

02:46:21.000 He was hiding.

02:46:22.000 Oh, so it was a snake attack, then he started screaming.

02:46:24.000 Okay, I was going from memory.

02:46:25.000 Alright, tell us about the snake attack.

02:46:27.000 It was very well-coordinated.

02:46:29.000 He was standing there by the side entrance, hiding, waiting to have me pass by so he could, you know, be a man in what he considers a man in a hit-me-from-the-back, using his handicapped daughter, whose disease he uses as a trophy, by the way, to get where he's at.

02:46:47.000 You need to sue Hannity at least until he apologizes and admits that was a fabrication on his show.

02:46:53.000 But being a CIA commander, he probably won't.

02:46:56.000 Um, probably, um, they may not go anywhere because the news, they basically, um, you know, they get away with stuff like that.

02:47:02.000 They always, uh, um... They get away with it because people don't stand up to them.

02:47:06.000 Exactly.

02:47:07.000 Believe me, you start suing people and all... Look, they were trying to put you in prison saying, we all attack... They were on the news saying you were choking her and beating her and blood was shooting everywhere.

02:47:17.000 I mean, just total lies!

02:47:19.000 I mean, they'll say whatever, and people like believing things like this because it's extreme.

02:47:23.000 And people, you know, they like looking for extreme things to believe.

02:47:26.000 Well, who would imagine this guy was trying to set you up?

02:47:29.000 That's actually pretty common, folks do stuff like that.

02:47:31.000 You know, it's like...

02:47:33.000 Well, he tried to initiate me to hit him first.

02:47:35.000 He put his finger in my face and I told him to get out of my face because I knew what he was trying to do.

02:47:39.000 the same thing so so so he's ramming you with it and going back from memory didn't he start grabbing you himself or something well he tried to initiate me to hit him first he put his finger in my face and i told him to get out of my face because i knew what he was trying to do he was trying to get me to hit him right in front of secret service in front of the police and i'm basically trying to notify the authority figure to let him know that this guy's trying to provoke something to prevent anything in the future

02:48:03.000 as I was about to do so, he coordinated the attack, and basically that's when the whole adventure began with me.

02:48:12.000 Okay, now going from what I heard from Luke and others in you, the Secret Service and police, they went ahead and went along with the lie.

02:48:18.000 How did you defeat them in court?

02:48:20.000 Well, I mean, the prosecutor himself wasn't really the brightest person.

02:48:24.000 He was a black man from Harvard that believed that his supervisor tried to use his venue star, you know, to take on this high-profile case.

02:48:34.000 But every single witness he had basically built my case.

02:48:37.000 I mean, one Secret Service guy said I did not resist arrest.

02:48:42.000 Let's be clear then, let's be clear, because I was getting a second hand from Luke and Les, the Secret Service didn't lie, the New York cops lied.

02:48:54.000 Okay, well that's good for the Secret Service then.

02:48:56.000 Right, the Secret Service guy basically said that I did not resist arrest.

02:49:00.000 He's not going to lose his job lying.

02:49:02.000 Okay, that's good.

02:49:04.000 Exactly, and basically the cop couldn't corroborate anything.

02:49:08.000 Everything was just a big mess.

02:49:10.000 The only thing this guy had was a wheelchair, a book with children's pictures on it.

02:49:15.000 And basically Maureen herself, poor child coming in with a Girl Scout uniform, a little puppy, trying to basically appeal to the jury's emotions. 0.63

02:49:27.000 They wasn't working.

02:49:27.000 The jury was seeing what was going on.

02:49:30.000 It took us a day to pick a jury that would look smart enough to understand this kind of stuff and not be manipulated by emotional appeals.

02:49:36.000 And I think my lawyer did a good job and was a good jury.

02:49:38.000 They're calling it an acquittal.

02:49:42.000 Were you found not guilty or how did this play out?

02:49:45.000 Right, I was found not guilty on those four charges.

02:49:47.000 They tried to get me resistant arrest.

02:49:49.000 See how they spin it?

02:49:50.000 I mean, an acquittal is not guilty, but the average person doesn't know what that means.

02:49:56.000 And he just said, not guilty, set up.

02:49:59.000 Look, you need to sue this guy.

02:50:01.000 You need to sue them all.

02:50:02.000 They're going to continue to go around in corners with a wheelchair, jumping out at people. 0.75

02:50:07.000 Ah, you hurt her! 0.93

02:50:08.000 You know, and you're walking down the street with your family, and there's a guy waiting with a wheelchair around the corner.

02:50:13.000 You need to go after this guy.

02:50:15.000 Yeah, that would be, that would definitely, you know, it's a dream to go after him and I'll put everything that I have just to make him understand that, you know, you can't do stuff like this.

02:50:26.000 So were they angry when you were found not guilty?

02:50:28.000 Well, the guy himself was trying to stand me down the whole time in the courtroom, trying to act like a tough guy, trying to intimidate my lawyer, stepping hard to him when he was asked to leave the stand.

02:50:39.000 He attacked my daughter, Sean Hannity!

02:50:42.000 Now tell him this, honey, say he hits you, alright?

02:50:46.000 I'll give you more ice cream.

02:50:49.000 Well, yeah, exactly.

02:50:50.000 That's just how it was.

02:50:51.000 He was sitting there, yawning the whole time. 0.91

02:50:52.000 You know, looking very guilty, looking very... Well, I mean, tell me what this liar did when we get back. 0.81

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02:54:12.000 All right, German Taoist found not guilty of a jury by his peers.

02:54:16.000 That's why I have mainstream news where the American Bar Association wants to abolish juries and the lawyers can really rob you.

02:54:24.000 And in England they're getting rid of juries.

02:54:27.000 I want to get to that at the very end of the show here in a moment.

02:54:29.000 But I was just talking to Jason Vermas, who interviewed you first last night.

02:54:33.000 Literally, she had a real puppy in a Girl Scout outfit.

02:54:38.000 I mean, if you'd have heard this father with his daughter on Sean Hannity, with him whispering, going, tell them they hit you, alright?

02:54:45.000 I mean, German, this is getting insane. 1.00

02:54:47.000 You're saying it was a real puppy or a stuffed puppy on the stand?

02:54:51.000 I was crazy.

02:54:51.000 The day before she took the stand, we were looking at a picture of her with a Girl Scout uniform holding a picture of Laura Bush, smiling.

02:55:01.000 Well, my lawyer's assistant made a joke. 1.00

02:55:02.000 She said, well, where's the puppy?

02:55:03.000 The only thing that's really missing is the puppy.

02:55:05.000 You know, this is disgusting.

02:55:06.000 And the next day, she really comes in with the puppy, and she was actually talking about how puppies help her confidence.

02:55:14.000 And the prosecutor was asking her questions, such as, what kind of, what other puppies do you have?

02:55:18.000 You have a terrier, I believe.

02:55:19.000 You like playing with your terrier, don't you?

02:55:20.000 So they're like, are you against, well, I mean, I confronted the drug czar, how his second in command got caught shipping in heroin and cocaine.

02:55:27.000 I confront him with the Reuters article.

02:55:29.000 And he, this is in Police State 2 The Takeover, and he says, the baby got hurt, and he goes, baby!

02:55:37.000 Trying to use, and everybody's going, baby, in the audience.

02:55:40.000 And they go, drugs hurt the babies?

02:55:42.000 And that's like psych warfare. 0.83

02:55:44.000 The baby, the puppy, German callus is evil!

02:55:49.000 So the jury saw right through this bizarre behavior?

02:55:52.000 We saw right through it.

02:55:53.000 We did a great job picking the jury.

02:55:56.000 You could really see the people who were really in touch with themselves and could understand facts.

02:55:59.000 And we did a good job in picking the jury.

02:56:03.000 I believe that, you know, people, once they have an emotional appeal, if their mind is not showing enough, they follow their animal instinct and they go with what sounds good as opposed to what's underneath the surface.

02:56:15.000 I had my London Guardian article here, and it's very upsetting to me because I wanted to show it before the show ended, where they're ending juries in England.

02:56:26.000 And they try to make you not take one.

02:56:28.000 Here it is, court allows first juryless criminal trial, and then you actually read that they've had thousands.

02:56:34.000 This is just one where the people tried to sue, demanding a criminal trial with juries, and they said no, and it's a secret trial.

02:56:41.000 Court allows first jury-less criminal trial, London Guardian.

02:56:45.000 So, for years they've been trying to force you not to take them, but this is one that was found in court.

02:56:50.000 They say no more juries, so... Well, thank God you got your jury, and as the people stop trusting the government more and more, they're going to try to get rid of juries, so we've got to fight for those.

02:56:59.000 I know it's extreme, and I'm evil and probably a terrorist, because I believe we should be able to protest.

02:57:04.000 The Army now says that's terrorism, and I believe in the First Amendment and juries.

02:57:09.000 I mean, I'm so evil.

02:57:10.000 Well, Mr. Tallis, We are Change.org.

02:57:13.000 I'm just glad the listeners and everybody supported you.

02:57:15.000 I'm glad your lawyer did a good job.

02:57:17.000 Praise God for this victory.

02:57:19.000 What happened when you defeated the Goblin?

02:57:22.000 What did he do when he heard not guilty?

02:57:25.000 Thanks a lot, Alex.

02:57:26.000 You've been a great help in this whole matter.

02:57:29.000 I really don't know what he did.

02:57:31.000 He left the courtroom after he was dismissed as a non-credible witness.

02:57:37.000 And I guess he was probably He's biting his nails, beating his wife, drinking.

02:57:44.000 He looks like a character that would do something like that.

02:57:46.000 Well, we don't know he's doing that, but he certainly lied about you.

02:57:51.000 Certainly lied about you.

02:57:52.000 Right, he definitely did.

02:57:54.000 I really don't know what he talked to, but based upon the character that he is, that he would use his daughter as a weapon, I believe that he's not doing something productive right now.

02:58:03.000 Well, he really has savaged you, and you need to demand a retraction from him.

02:58:07.000 But you've been found not guilty in court, and Mr. Tallis, God bless you, and we're glad that you got out of this time their attempt to run a false flag attack.

02:58:18.000 There you are exposing the false flag attack of 9-11, and this guy runs a false flag staged attack on you.

02:58:24.000 Tried to frame you for that.

02:58:26.000 Mr. Tallis, good hearing from you.

02:58:27.000 God bless you.

02:58:28.000 Have a good weekend.

02:58:28.000 God bless.

02:58:29.000 God bless, Alex.

02:58:30.000 You're doing a great job.

02:58:31.000 You too, my friend.

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