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00:00:28.000 All right, we're now into the second hour we're now into the second hour of this worldwide transmission. - Thank you.

00:00:48.000 Webster Griffin Tarpley will be with us for two hours, maybe even longer, if I can twist his arm into it, because I got a host of issues to talk about with Webster Griffin Tarpley.

00:00:58.000 As viewers know, many of you, Webster Griffin Tarpoli is really the main voice of the Obama deception.

00:01:05.000 It has my good friend and economist George Humphrey in it.

00:01:08.000 It has great trends forecaster and political analyst Gerald Cilente.

00:01:14.000 It has Willie Nelson.

00:01:15.000 It has Jesse Ventura.

00:01:17.000 It has KRS-One, Professor Griff, myself, and many others in it.

00:01:22.000 But Tarpley's really the main voice of the film, as he is in the new upcoming film, that's got John Perkins in it, and a bunch of other people I'm not even going to name at this time.

00:01:31.000 I've never had a budget like this for a film.

00:01:33.000 It's probably going to have like 15 big names in it, with their analysis, all on the same page, but different perspectives.

00:01:40.000 So that is coming up in, that's going to come out October 1st.

00:01:44.000 I've gone ahead and extended it because I was just going to throw a film out.

00:01:47.000 It's still going to be hard-hitting, but I really want this.

00:01:49.000 The Obama Deceptions are now rivaling loose change, folks.

00:01:53.000 It is, I cannot describe to you, and we're going to Webster Tarpley, but I think he needs to hear this as well, that I've confirmed it's in Japanese newspapers and they're showing it to Japanese, not just film students, but economic and political science students, that entire universities

00:02:10.000 This is in the South Korean news are showing it to all their students that multiple universities that I've been interviewed for magazines and they've told me over in South Korea and and and TV programs as well that That entire universities are showing it to entire student bodies.

00:02:29.000 I mean, I've asked one newspaper reporter, I go, well, how many at this one school?

00:02:32.000 Oh, hundreds of classes have been shown the Obama deception.

00:02:36.000 And I'm just moving from the east to the west.

00:02:39.000 Russia, Europe, everywhere, translated into more than ten languages that I've seen.

00:02:44.000 Portuguese, Spanish, Chinese, German, Dutch, French, Just, it's incredible.

00:02:54.000 This is on track now to become the most downloaded, most viewed internet film in history.

00:03:01.000 And we have no way of gauging it.

00:03:03.000 Two months in, I checked it.

00:03:05.000 There were 15 million views I could see.

00:03:10.000 And I only spent 45 minutes going to the different sites.

00:03:13.000 Million here, 2 million there, 3 million here, half a million here, 400,000 there.

00:03:17.000 15 million!

00:03:19.000 The peer-to-peer networks, the BitTorrents, Other language systems, thousands of video sites, I have no way of knowing.

00:03:27.000 Just the copies of DVDs!

00:03:30.000 Phoenix newspapers reported more than 15,000 given out by students at one Obama event when he came to speak.

00:03:37.000 That's devastating!

00:03:38.000 And videos of the students going wild, putting all their extra money, fundraisers, into buying 15,000 DVDs with mass burners, making copies, and now they're doing... I mean, it's just all over the country, all over the world, So that's why I said, look, I can't just throw another film out, even though I was doing it for speed, that was going to be good.

00:03:56.000 This is going to be a masterpiece.

00:03:58.000 I just am battling with myself over the name.

00:04:01.000 So we'll talk to Webster when we get back about first, the spirit of resistance, the spirit of liberty, the spirit of believing you can stand up and getting animated in this fight.

00:04:10.000 Knowing who your enemy is half the battle.

00:04:12.000 Taking action and knowing you can't be stopped if you simply exert yourself as the other half. 0.98

00:04:17.000 If you counter-strike the New World Order before it's too late, before their full panoptagon, their technological system is in place.

00:04:28.000 So we'll kind of go to break here in a moment, come back with Webster Tarpley, but I just wanted you to know that In the second interview with Webster, and also in the first, we didn't put a lot about Iran and Pakistan and North Korea in the first one, because we wanted to have it simpler for the general public.

00:04:43.000 The second one will have more on that.

00:04:44.000 Everything he said came true.

00:04:46.000 And it just gives me more and more respect for the foresight, the over-the-horizon analysis of Webster Griffin Tarperley.

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00:08:14.000 All right, Webster Griffin Tarpelli is with us into the fourth hour today.

00:08:25.000 So two plus hours, phone calls coming up later in the next hour with Webster Griffin Tarpley.

00:08:31.000 I want to go over Iran. 0.96

00:08:33.000 I want to go over Pakistan. 1.00

00:08:35.000 I want to continue to move east into the Korean Peninsula. 1.00

00:08:41.000 Why suddenly all this is starting and happening?

00:08:44.000 I want to get into, then, what's happening with the economy and a lot more with the unauthorized biographer of George Herbert Walker Bush and Barack H. Obama.

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00:09:08.000 Webster, so much of what you said in the first Obama deception, now in the new film where we interviewed you a few months ago, is now coming true.

00:09:16.000 So I want to get into how you knew their attack plan.

00:09:19.000 I mean, I know what you're going to say, Brzezinski's been quite public and vocal about it, but still, to see them actually doing it is just amazing.

00:09:26.000 What you think their next moves will be?

00:09:28.000 Are things going well for the globalists, for the Anglo-American New World Order crime syndicate? 0.87

00:09:33.000 Is their global game of grand chess board playing out the way they would have wanted to?

00:09:37.000 How do we block them?

00:09:39.000 And then what's happening with the economy.

00:09:40.000 But first, I just want to share the good news with people.

00:09:44.000 Folks out there have done an incredible job of the Obama deception.

00:09:47.000 It is on track right now to rival any film ever released as being the most viral film in internet history.

00:09:54.000 It is just, it is incalculable with the intelligence I have and the systems we have to even gauge it.

00:10:01.000 Conservatively, again over 15 million views a month and a half ago when I last counted up just a few sites.

00:10:08.000 Just incalculable the DVDs being copied and given out worldwide, incalculable because it's so accurate and showed all his lies and stuff, what his next lies would be, and it's actually worse than we said.

00:10:18.000 So the film, people are seeing it almost like revelation, and though it's not real revelation, they reveal what they would do before in their white papers as you know.

00:10:27.000 So can you speak to People having faith in themselves, realizing we're at the global crossroads where they're trying to bring in the carbon tax tyranny, the total federalization of all water supply tyranny, the fascistic health care takeover tyranny, just on every front, militarily, you name it, we're at that flashpoint in history and it seems things are only accelerating.

00:10:53.000 Webster Griffin Tarpley.

00:10:55.000 Thank you, Alex, and congratulations to you on the tremendous success of this Obama deception. 0.60

00:11:01.000 I think we've just come through a watershed in that I believe Obama has now peaked at least For the moment in terms of his ability to manipulate the United States population with his demagogy.

00:11:15.000 You can see that his poll numbers are beginning to fall and in this he repeats the track of Carter.

00:11:21.000 Now in the middle of that I think the Obama deception has been an important ingredient in catalyzing people to see what was going on in front of their noses.

00:11:31.000 And one of my favorite Proverbs, I guess you could call it, is something I learned from a Spanish coal miner from the north of Spain, from the Asturias, and he said you have to remember that in this life you can either be active or you can be radioactive.

00:11:48.000 In other words, you have to use political action to try to fend off and avoid the worst.

00:11:54.000 And I believe that remains absolutely valid today.

00:11:58.000 And the other side of it, I think, is another good quote for people, if you're concerned with being political and continuing a struggle, even when it doesn't look so good, is you can have the pessimism of your intelligence, in other words, you can look around and say that the world is in very, very bad shape, and it often does, and it often looks like things are not very hopeful, shall we say.

00:12:25.000 So the pessimism of the intelligence is fine, but then don't use that to drop out or, you know, relapse into just a mode of complaining.

00:12:33.000 The optimism of the will, and I think optimism of the will is what you showed by putting out this Obama deception, right?

00:12:41.000 At the time we taped that, it was the height of Obama-mania, right?

00:12:44.000 It was the beginning of December of last year, as I recall, the part that I was in.

00:12:50.000 Yeah, he had 80% approval ratings, God-like level.

00:12:53.000 Right, it seemed like, you know, a small group of people going against the biggest demagogical exercise in world history, right?

00:13:01.000 It seemed like an act of the most grotesque lunacy, but in reality I think it has had a significant effect, and I think it will have more.

00:13:08.000 I think the audience for this can only grow, because the audience, as long as they were on this hysterical high of Obama-mania and utopian dreams and messianic illusions, Everywhere.

00:13:21.000 People are probably not so interested, but I think as the problems become more obvious and as these illusions vanish, you know, it vanishes like at dawn and then comes the hangover.

00:13:34.000 In the middle of the hangover, I think people are going to want to see exactly what has been done to them.

00:13:38.000 No, you're right.

00:13:39.000 That's key.

00:13:39.000 In fact, that's the only point I meant to make and you're right.

00:13:43.000 No, no, you're right.

00:13:44.000 It's growing, it's accelerating in its exponential explosion.

00:13:48.000 That's what's really taking my breath away.

00:13:50.000 Go ahead, Webster.

00:13:52.000 I recommend political action, and I think the people... I got an email the other day from a guy in New York City, in Brooklyn, who is a big Obama supporter, and he'd been in the 9-11 truth movement, and he wrote me an email saying that he had

00:14:11.000 He had been very wrong about Obama, and I thought this was probably one of the most committed Obama supporters in New York City, and he said, well, you know, I realize now that this was a mistake.

00:14:24.000 And of course, you can understand why some people would make a mistake, right?

00:14:27.000 A lot of people hated Hillary Clinton for various reasons, hated other people. 0.83

00:14:31.000 Certainly, just about everybody decent hated Bush, so there were reasons why people made this And that was really what Obama built on, right?

00:14:41.000 He was sort of judoing a situation where, you know, the other alternatives all seemed to be totally discredited.

00:14:48.000 And he was new, and nobody knew anything about him, so why not give it a try?

00:14:53.000 Well, unfortunately, not a good idea, as we're seeing now.

00:14:56.000 So I think the resistance is likely to grow.

00:14:59.000 And I think a lot of people are having these moments of epiphany, right, where they realize that they've been duped.

00:15:05.000 Right?

00:15:06.000 So fine.

00:15:06.000 Fool me once.

00:15:07.000 Shame on you.

00:15:09.000 Absolutely.

00:15:11.000 Absolutely.

00:15:12.000 I want to get back into where you see Obama's future, how you see his crumbling unfolding.

00:15:18.000 We talked during the break, you have the same concern as mine. 0.89

00:15:22.000 implode until he's discredited as a fraud, a charlatan, a conman, false hope, a scam artist, puppet, unless they stage terror attacks or some type of Iranian crisis or North Korean situation. 0.73

00:15:37.000 So let's start now on the geopolitical spectrum, moving first to Iran.

00:15:44.000 Right, I think we can start with Iran because Iran is the big concern of the Carter administration, right?

00:15:51.000 Remember that the Trilateral Commission is the common denominator of Carter and now of Obama, and indeed some of the people are the same.

00:15:59.000 Paul Adolph Volcker was put into the Federal Reserve by Carter, and now we've got Paul Adolph Volcker sitting in the White House as the Director of Economic Recovery for Obama.

00:16:09.000 a real amazing thing.

00:16:12.000 And, of course, back in the Carter administration, we had Spigniew Brzezinski running the government in terms of foreign policy from his post at the National Security Council.

00:16:21.000 Today we have Robert Gates, the protege of Brzezinski, a man who owes much of his career to Brzezinski, now in the Pentagon running the U.S. military.

00:16:33.000 So Iran was the big thing.

00:16:35.000 The only time Carter got an improvement in his public opinion after the first year was the Iranian hostage crisis beginning in, what, January of 19...

00:16:47.000 I'm sorry, in November of 1979, and then lasting for more than a year, right?

00:16:52.000 That gave him the rally-round effect.

00:16:54.000 So we've got to remember what Biden said in Seattle on the 19th of October, that there's going to be a crisis in the first six months.

00:17:01.000 We'll see what that might be.

00:17:03.000 But let's look for the moment at Iran.

00:17:05.000 We just had Obama go to Cairo.

00:17:08.000 And give this speech, right?

00:17:10.000 It was really the second time Obama had done this.

00:17:12.000 He had gone to Turkey some months before, in April, and given really the same kind of speech with a little bit less oomph, and with a certain, probably not as much hysteria around it.

00:17:24.000 But there he was in Cairo, and he made this speech.

00:17:27.000 Now, forget about the details of the speech.

00:17:30.000 I think the main thing in the speech that was important was he had no economic perspective to offer.

00:17:37.000 He had nothing about a Marshall Plan for the Middle East, nothing about rebuilding the war-torn economies of Gaza, of southern Lebanon, of Iraq.

00:17:47.000 helping a place like Iran that has been hit by economic sanctions.

00:17:52.000 He had nothing about the Israeli economy, right?

00:17:54.000 Three-quarters of the Israeli children grow up in poverty, thanks to the economic policies instituted by our dear friend Netanyahu when he was the finance minister.

00:18:05.000 If any part of the world needs a Marshall Plan, this is a very good example. 0.99

00:18:10.000 There's not a word about improving living standards, fighting disease, illiteracy, despair, hunger.

00:18:17.000 None of that.

00:18:18.000 It's all in the area of just rearranging the counters on the board.

00:18:22.000 Now, after that, you had this election in Lebanon, where the Hezbollah were thought to be about to take over the Lebanese government, and they didn't.

00:18:31.000 So it's Hezbollah and General Aoun, a Maronite Christian, a great Lebanese patriot, the guy that I would look to in Lebanese politics.

00:18:40.000 They didn't quite get the majority, but they remained quite strong, and this was considered to be already A magical effect of Obama's speech.

00:18:48.000 The main goal of Obama's speech, though, is to try to turn the Arabs and the Iranians, the Islamic world in the Middle East, against Russia and against China.

00:19:01.000 Because this is the essence of Obama's policy.

00:19:04.000 It's an anti-Russian, anti-Chinese policy that tries to address the question of world domination Using other countries as pawns, kamikaze puppets, expendable assets, proxies, exercises in buck passing, and things like this. 0.63

00:19:21.000 So that, I think, is now what's going on with Iran. 0.96

00:19:24.000 I mean, if you want to just put a headline over the Iranian situation, you could say that if you had regime change in Iran, one of the first things that a new puppet state in Iran, controlled by the US and the British, would do is to cut off the oil to China.

00:19:42.000 And similarly, if you have a revolution in Saudi Arabia, they might have a revolution in Saudi Arabia.

00:19:47.000 The goal of that would be to cut off the oil to China, because that is the geopolitical sense of this entire thing.

00:19:52.000 Yeah, stay there.

00:19:54.000 Again, they use revolution, whether it's anti-religious or pro-religious, it doesn't matter.

00:20:00.000 They'll do it to break down and control any group they can.

00:20:03.000 I want to look at the different characters involved in what's happening in Iran and where you see that going.

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00:24:27.000 We'll have open phones coming up in the next hour.

00:24:31.000 Webster, you get on the air and you're calmly talking about all of this and I think that's important.

00:24:38.000 I want people to understand you've done deep research on all these subjects.

00:24:38.000 To break it down.

00:24:42.000 I've done quite a bit of research as well to be able to even grasp the basics of what's going on.

00:24:51.000 But I just want listeners to understand This is again a key crossroads.

00:24:55.000 Very serious things are happening right now.

00:24:58.000 Very serious things are being decided right now.

00:25:02.000 And so I don't want to just talk about what their goals are in Iran or Pakistan or going west in Georgia or going east again in North Korea.

00:25:13.000 I want to talk about where you see it going.

00:25:14.000 I mean, is it going well for them?

00:25:17.000 Just as a layman studying this, it looks like things aren't going well in Iran.

00:25:23.000 The goal was to demonize Iran for military strikes, perhaps in the future, to kind of sell the outside world on that as one option. 0.72

00:25:31.000 Another option is to try to put in the former Prime Minister, who was hooked into the CIA and different black ops, who's actually a hardliner and goes with the corrupt intermoolers, versus Ahmed Dinegide.

00:25:48.000 And that they do want to install him, and he has been anti-Russia in the past, to kind of strike a deal with the Mulas, but certainly that deal has been rebuffed.

00:26:00.000 It's not being accepted.

00:26:01.000 I mean, this is very, very murky.

00:26:03.000 We know the CIA and MI6 are on record in there fomenting this, and coming up with the classic color revolution, and admittedly doing it, but what are the goals?

00:26:13.000 Are they going well?

00:26:14.000 Who are the factions?

00:26:15.000 Because people want to hear that from you.

00:26:17.000 Well, remember the Brzezinski tradition, and this is just normal imperialism, right?

00:26:23.000 The neocons make you forget what a normal imperialist looks like.

00:26:28.000 The Brzezinski tradition is you don't attack anybody, you sit back and play other countries one against the other.

00:26:34.000 They have a name for this, it's called buck passing.

00:26:37.000 In other words, if you want to do something bad to China, don't do it yourself, because there might be blowback.

00:26:42.000 You get somebody else to do it.

00:26:43.000 So if you can get Iran to cut off the oil to China, or if you can get Iran into some hostile relation, With Russia, then that's what you want to do.

00:26:52.000 And I think that's... Destabilization, Balkanization, wind-up toys, the word you use is good, kamikazes. 1.00

00:27:00.000 This is the great game, isn't it?

00:27:02.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:27:03.000 So, as you say, it's a color revolution, it's a people power coup, it's a velvet revolution.

00:27:08.000 And there was some guy from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, the Pasteran, who had an article About in a week before the election saying that what's going to happen is an attempt at a velvet revolution and people power coup by the CIA and we won't let it happen.

00:27:23.000 No, I think they're not doing well with this.

00:27:26.000 I think there was a hysterical group And it's called the Soft Power Group in the US foreign policy community. 1.00

00:27:34.000 The Soft Power Group says, we don't want the neocons and their stupid military methods. 0.99

00:27:41.000 We want to use trickery, guile, subversion, soft power. 1.00

00:27:45.000 We can do more with less.

00:27:47.000 We can do more imperialist dirty work with less losses and certainly less expense and less Pure political problems.

00:27:56.000 And that would be this group around Joseph Nye, who was one of the... He sees Nye as kind of an interface between the Trilaterals and the Bilderbergers. 0.73

00:28:05.000 Big supporter for Obama.

00:28:06.000 He was blogging for Obama on the Huffington Post.

00:28:09.000 So, the soft power group.

00:28:11.000 And now, let's look at what they've got.

00:28:13.000 If you want to have a color revolution, you've got to have a telegenic demagogue who gets out there and leads. 0.55

00:28:19.000 And this they don't really seem to have.

00:28:21.000 I mean, somebody like Obama himself or You can see that telegenic is a flexible term when you get somebody like Yushchenko in Ukraine, right?

00:28:31.000 He's not exactly telegenic.

00:28:33.000 Maybe Saakashvili in Georgia maybe looked more telegenic at the beginning.

00:28:39.000 Anyway, they have a problem in the sense that they don't have a leader who's willing to get out there and bet the ranch.

00:28:44.000 The other thing you need, of course, is a color.

00:28:47.000 In Iran, they have it.

00:28:48.000 It's green.

00:28:49.000 They have a slogan.

00:28:49.000 The slogan is something like, yes, we can, as I understand it.

00:28:53.000 You've got to have control of the TV and the media.

00:28:55.000 Now, inside Iran, they don't have it.

00:28:58.000 The state television, of course, is pro-Akhmedinejad. 0.77

00:29:02.000 Satellite TV, though, is going to be anti-regime.

00:29:05.000 It's interesting, the British just began a special television channel No.

00:29:10.000 Iran a couple of months before this started.

00:29:13.000 The BBC Persian television, not radio anymore, but now television.

00:29:17.000 This is something I think big.

00:29:19.000 The really basic thing you need is a rent-a-mob, a duper-mob, and swarming adolescents.

00:29:25.000 The kind of thing you saw camped out in Kiev, right, in late 2004.

00:29:30.000 So that they had up to a point largely through the intervention of this CIA covert action program with the $400 million for communications, for Twitter, for cell phones, and all the rest of this stuff.

00:29:45.000 So that they had up to a point.

00:29:46.000 Yeah, stay there.

00:29:47.000 Stay there.

00:29:48.000 Quick break, long segment coming up.

00:29:50.000 Let's continue to break this down.

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00:37:08.000 Now, going back to Webster Griffin Tarpley.

00:37:12.000 Webster, okay, you got the floor.

00:37:13.000 I'm going to sit back here, continue with the different players in Iran, where you see this going, how that's going, and then let's move to other battlefronts, like what you see really going on in Pakistan, versus what's happening in North Korea because it's as if someone flipped a light switch and global crises in a fiery crescent from Eastern Europe into the Korean Peninsula just suddenly lit up in flames as well as Africa.

00:37:42.000 Yes, well, just on Iran now.

00:37:45.000 If you come out and say that the revolution in Iran is being run through Twitter That already implies a very specific class composition of who is out there revolting.

00:37:58.000 A lot of people in Iran don't even have a phone.

00:38:00.000 A lot of people in Iran have never made a phone call.

00:38:03.000 The people who have access to the internet are maybe 20-25%.

00:38:06.000 That would be my guess.

00:38:10.000 So if you say that the golden youth, the privileged youthful students of Tehran University are demanding the overthrow of the regime, this is a social stratum that is essentially demanding more privileges for itself.

00:38:26.000 These are people who believe in economic globalization, they're big on free market.

00:38:33.000 For example, this guy Mousavi is demanding privatization of the state sector.

00:38:38.000 A typical IMF, International Monetary Fund, shock therapy demand.

00:38:44.000 He's demanding freedom on the Internet.

00:38:46.000 Well, to the average peasant or poor worker, there's no such thing as freedom on the Internet, because they don't have the Internet.

00:38:53.000 And I think this points to the limitation of what they're doing in Iran.

00:38:58.000 It reminds me a little bit of the Cedars Revolution that they tried in Lebanon a little while ago, where you had the rich Uh, Christian Maronite Jet Set driving up in Porsches and BMWs, if not Rolls Royces and Lamborghinis, and saying, oh, we're really hurting, we've got to get, you know, we've got to get Hezbollah out of Lebanon. 0.99

00:39:18.000 It's this kind of a situation.

00:39:20.000 The support for Mousavi is largely in North Tehran, which is like saying, You know, Park Avenue, or Beverly Hills, or the Gold Coast of Chicago.

00:39:31.000 In other words, a very rich neighborhood.

00:39:33.000 So, it's rich elitists who like Mousavi, and you can get enough of them to go out on the street and drag some others with them.

00:39:41.000 And the desperate housewives, because the desperate housewives are fascinated by the wife of Mousavi, who's a lady with some kind of Academic background. 1.00

00:39:52.000 She's an academic dean.

00:39:53.000 And now, this is the problem.

00:39:54.000 The very narrow base of support for the U.S.-British candidate, Mousavi, normally you have to have a public opinion poll.

00:40:03.000 The classic way you do a color revolution is an oppressive regime has an election, and then you get your swarming adolescents. 0.85

00:40:11.000 You get your rent-a-mob and dupe-a-mob of young people and rich elitists out in the streets, camping in the main square of Kiev, things like this.

00:40:20.000 And they demand the overturning of the election, as they're doing now, based on the idea that vote fraud took place.

00:40:25.000 Well, how can you prove vote fraud?

00:40:28.000 In this case, there's absolutely no proof.

00:40:30.000 There's no suggestion of how you can prove vote fraud.

00:40:33.000 They say, well, such and such a candidate came from this region and he didn't win it.

00:40:39.000 Well, you know, Al Gore lost Tennessee.

00:40:41.000 Big deal.

00:40:42.000 It's very easy for people to lose the area that they come from if the opponent is Is popular.

00:40:48.000 So the vote fraud scenario...

00:40:52.000 Suffers from the fact that they don't have a poll, and the polls that they do have show, uh, Ahmadinejad shows the regime candidate winning by about two to one, so about two-thirds of the votes for Ahmadinejad, and that's about what you have.

00:41:06.000 So, I think on the whole, this is not gonna be very, very successful, and I think the, uh, the really sinister thing again is, if Mousavi got in, what would he do?

00:41:16.000 Let's look at, let's look at Mousavi.

00:41:18.000 This is the butcher of Beirut. 0.88

00:41:20.000 This is one of the most hardline Islamic fascists, to use the neocon terms. 0.99

00:41:25.000 If anybody is an Islamic fascist, it's him. 1.00

00:41:28.000 But always you see the globalists, the CIMI6, cozying up to these butchers. 0.95

00:41:33.000 He represents the old line. 0.97

00:41:35.000 He represents the old line. 0.97

00:41:37.000 Wealthy, corrupt, that Ahmadinejad is fighting.

00:41:39.000 I'm not saying Ahmadinejad is any angel, but this guy You know, actually, you can tell by his actions, he really believes he's doing the right thing.

00:41:46.000 You're right, he's popular with the people, but the little CIA-funded kids... The only way I see this working, but I want your take on this, so I'm interrupting Webster, because I want to hear what you have to say on this.

00:41:57.000 And this is what Paul Greg Roberts and others are saying, and I agree with them.

00:42:00.000 The only real reason they went with this is, maybe it's going to work to overthrow him, if he stabilizes them, period, and discredits them in the world's eyes, if Israel goes ahead and blows their nuke reactors to kingdom come, that, oh well, the regime deserved it. 0.85

00:42:16.000 This is some type of demonization campaign.

00:42:19.000 Now, do you agree with that, or am I wrong?

00:42:21.000 Well, I think their maximum option was to try to overthrow the regime and put in a puppet state.

00:42:27.000 The other thing, let me talk in a minute about the idea of busting up Iran, because that's their real strategy. 1.00

00:42:33.000 Mousavi, as you say, is this Prime Minister from the 1980s, and for me the thing that sums it all up is, during the Iran-Iraq War, started by the U.S., of course, in 1980-1981, You had the mullahs, who are not good people to say the least, going around and getting children. 1.00

00:42:54.000 They would take children, fairly young children, away from their parents and get them to go to the front.

00:43:00.000 And they would give them a stick or some little weapon that was really no weapon at all, maybe a knife or some silly little thing, and then send them up against the machine guns of the Iraqi army.

00:43:13.000 It was like a children's crusade.

00:43:15.000 Now, Mousavi was the prime minister Who presided over human wave attacks by young children who had been taken away from their parents by these mullahs. 1.00

00:43:26.000 So this is what he represents.

00:43:29.000 And he of course is a tool of this guy Rafsanjani. 0.82

00:43:32.000 Rafsanjani Is one of the most corrupt people in the world.

00:43:35.000 Rafsanjani could compete with Zardari there in Pakistan in terms of corruption. 0.81

00:43:41.000 He's an extreme corrupt manifestation of the old regime.

00:43:46.000 So Rafsanjani, who is the oldest Most discredited, most corrupt representative of this entire theocracy.

00:43:55.000 But again, the theocracy was set up by Carter and Brzezinski during the Carter administration, right?

00:44:01.000 They installed Khomeini, that's what they wanted. 0.93

00:44:04.000 They wanted Islamic fundamentalism as a bulwark against Soviet communism, and by God, they got it. 1.00

00:44:10.000 So, Rafsanjani is the spirit of Khomeini living on, and that's Mousavi. 0.96

00:44:16.000 So this is now, in the eyes of the U.S.

00:44:18.000 and the British, this is now a wonderful reformer, and his wonderful supporters are these people that everybody should support.

00:44:25.000 I think this is going, probably going nowhere.

00:44:29.000 And therefore, that's a defeat for Obama, because remember, the argument for Obama was That this wonderful personality, this dazzling smile of Obama would transform the world through magical powers, right?

00:44:42.000 Obama would gesture hypnotically and the regime in Iran would fall.

00:44:46.000 And again, the soft power people wanted the argument of saying, don't attack Iran, don't attack Iran.

00:44:52.000 We can deal with Iran using these methods. 1.00

00:44:55.000 Now, they have shaken the regime.

00:44:58.000 But I don't know what's going to come out of it.

00:45:00.000 I mean, it's, you know, Tiananmen was certainly not as, it was more extreme than what we've seen here, and that did not work in China.

00:45:07.000 So it doesn't look, it looks like the color revolution people power coup model is getting to be so well known that you can take measures against it, right?

00:45:16.000 The Iranians have cut off Twitter and cut off parts of the internet and so forth. 1.00

00:45:21.000 So I think they knew what was coming, and they were ready for it.

00:45:24.000 Now, in terms of the long-term CIA stuff, The journalists today ignore the fact that Bush, in May of 2007, with great fanfare, Bush signed a $400 million program to subvert Iran using communications and other, used to be fax machines, now it's Twitter, cell phones, And more importantly, that was done publicly for a color revolution.

00:45:49.000 They said to get the students to try to overthrow the government, an act of war.

00:45:53.000 And I want you to continue, but for the folks that don't know, this is on record.

00:45:56.000 We've written a bunch of articles at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, previous to this latest big flare-up.

00:46:02.000 They tried this actually back in 2004, the year after they'd taken over Iraq.

00:46:07.000 There were some bombings and riots and things, and then they started, even before 2007, Hiring four groups, and you always go over that Webster, and then I want to move back to the current time and into the future, but you're really an expert on the four groups, one of them Kurdish, three of them connected in to Sunni, Wahhabist, and number three in Al Qaeda working for CIA, but then also

00:46:31.000 One of the groups that work for Saddam, they've got, that's five groups, bombing mosques, blowing up school buses, shooting police, and Iran has sued the United States.

00:46:41.000 The West admits they're staging attacks.

00:46:43.000 Can you imagine if Iran was staging weekly attacks here for years?

00:46:46.000 So, it's not just 2007 with the shift from paramilitary attacks to getting the students ready for now what's happening, and then the facts of also how The mullahs can appoint who's gonna run anyway, so why would they steal an election when they rig who gets to run anyway?

00:47:02.000 So, I mean, it's just unbelievable, but how terrorists, including Al-Qaeda, openly work for the U.S. 0.92

00:47:10.000 and England, and then they think our public is so stupid, Webster, they tell us Iran is Al-Qaeda, when it's the opposite religious group of Islam. 0.98

00:47:20.000 I mean, this is like saying Superman is Lex Luthor. 0.99

00:47:24.000 Yeah, the U.S.

00:47:24.000 Congress, of course, has passed, repeatedly passed, regime change laws concerning Iran.

00:47:30.000 In other words, a flagrant interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state.

00:47:34.000 Now remember, Seymour Hersh of The New Yorker has been writing articles since, what, 2004, 2005?

00:47:41.000 Saying, the U.S. 0.91

00:47:42.000 has special forces teams, terrorist controllers, saboteurs, political operatives on the ground in Iran, and they do.

00:47:50.000 We have Brett Scowcroft, a gray eminence of the ruling elite, has given an interview quite recently which says, of course we have all kinds of CIA personnel on the ground. 0.86

00:48:02.000 And that gets us into then the, I think that the reasonable scenario for Iran is, if you had Mousavi take over, That would leave Mousavi as the Prime Minister of what they call Iranistan.

00:48:14.000 Iranistan would be sort of the central part of Iran, Tehran and Qom and some other large cities.

00:48:20.000 But then, as you mentioned now, the CIA and the British, MI6 especially, they have these other groups, right?

00:48:27.000 You have the Jundullah terrorists. 1.00

00:48:30.000 Operating in Balochistan, that would be southeast Iran, coming in sometimes from Pakistan.

00:48:37.000 They have terrorists coming from Afghanistan into the area in the northeast, that would be Pashtunistan, that would be another component. 0.99

00:48:46.000 Then they have in the north, they have Azeris, they have Kurds.

00:48:53.000 And then they have this Arabistan. 0.94

00:48:55.000 This is where the British have invested a lot.

00:48:57.000 Arabistan or Akhvaz is the coast of Iran along the Persian Gulf or Arabian Gulf.

00:49:05.000 The Gulf, I guess.

00:49:07.000 And that's the area of the Abadan refinery, the Karg Island tanker terminal, the oil fields, sort of south of a chain of mountains.

00:49:15.000 And here, for a long time, the British have sponsored what I call the BP Liberation Front, British Petroleum Liberation Front, because it is an open attempt to detach from Greater Iran the parts that the British used to control and used to be their main source of oil.

00:49:34.000 They want to slice the big port and oil field away, so Iran has trouble.

00:49:37.000 And then you mentioned the MEK, right?

00:49:39.000 The Mujahideen-e-Khalq is an army with tanks, with all kinds of weapons that the U.S.

00:49:46.000 has and continues to protect inside an enclave on the Iraqi side, but these people can be sent over.

00:49:52.000 So if you add up al-Qaeda, In that Pashtunistan area, you've got Jundullah in the Balochistan area, you've got Mujahideen-e-Khalq, you've got this Akhvaz Liberation Front.

00:50:04.000 You've got four or five different terrorist groups that are being fomented by the U.S.

00:50:08.000 and the British.

00:50:09.000 And the background to the entire thing, they say, if you turn on CNN, they say, well, the economy under Ahmadinejad is bad.

00:50:16.000 Yeah, there are sanctions!

00:50:17.000 There are draconian economic sanctions, practically a blockade!

00:50:21.000 I don't know why Ahmadinejad doesn't get up there like Castro and say, you know, comrades or brothers in Islam, our economy is bad because we're under economic blockade.

00:50:32.000 And I suppose he does say that, but that is one of the realities.

00:50:35.000 Now, Ahmadinejad is of course a populist demagogue with a lot of bluster, but in terms of an election, it really looks like he won it.

00:50:44.000 Yeah, certainly.

00:50:44.000 We have U.S.

00:50:45.000 poll companies saying 2-1 and then the other clown announces he's won hours before the polls close to create the perception of a stolen election when he loses.

00:50:56.000 Webster, do you think he knows he's working with the CIA or do they want to put him in?

00:51:00.000 I think he's probably a winning actor.

00:51:03.000 Alright, stay there.

00:51:04.000 We'll come back and get into other areas of the world.

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00:54:21.000 I think if you boil it all down in the last 45, 50 minutes talking to Webster Tarplay, he's coming to the same...

00:54:29.000 Perspective and summation that I've come to and many of us have.

00:54:33.000 The globalists have the high ground financially, but not morally.

00:54:37.000 They have the power, they have the money, but it's a losing game.

00:54:41.000 Time is on our side.

00:54:43.000 Those of us that want human liberty and freedom and upward mobility and goals for society and, you know, where decency and truthfulness is honored.

00:54:52.000 Not just this capitulation to lies and evil.

00:54:55.000 And that on every front the New World Order is failing.

00:54:58.000 They're grinding down to their axles like Napoleon in Russia. 0.67

00:55:04.000 Or Hitler in Russia.

00:55:06.000 But they got a lot of tricks up their sleeves, namely stage terror.

00:55:09.000 And that's why we now get into North Korea, Pakistan, conflict with Russia, the encirclement, all of that continuing.

00:55:20.000 But Webster, one final note on One final note on Iran, and we'll get into stage crises, North Korea being chief among them, I would imagine will be your view, but we'll see.

00:55:31.000 And that is the... Have you ever seen one that lies as much as Obama?

00:55:35.000 I mean, we know presidents lie a lot, and that's just part of what they do.

00:55:39.000 Unfortunately, it's become just business as usual.

00:55:41.000 But with him, it's the over-the-topness, saying there's no CIA doing anything in Iran, there's no involvement.

00:55:50.000 While his bosses, Brzezinski and Kissinger, and you mentioned Skrokov, are on TV bragging how they're running it all and calling it delicate manipulation.

00:55:59.000 I mean, and that's another question.

00:56:01.000 Why do they go on TV and admit they're behind it, but then he gets up and lies?

00:56:05.000 Is that just part of the flaunting it in our face? 1.00

00:56:08.000 They think we're a bunch of idiots? 1.00

00:56:09.000 I think Obama has a much bigger audience, and then when somebody like Brent Scowcroft speaks, that doesn't exactly get on the evening news. 1.00

00:56:19.000 But you're certainly right.

00:56:20.000 With Bush, we had a brutal aggressor, an imperialist reactionary.

00:56:27.000 And he was frank.

00:56:28.000 As he always said, you know exactly where I stand.

00:56:30.000 Yeah, we did.

00:56:31.000 He had this thin veil of pro-democracy, neocon rhetoric.

00:56:36.000 But you could already see that, you know, the intent, which was just aggression, right?

00:56:40.000 Imperialism.

00:56:41.000 And he would say things like, bring it on, or dead or alive.

00:56:45.000 So that's Bush.

00:56:46.000 But now Obama's a completely different method.

00:56:49.000 This is now systematic, strategic deception.

00:56:53.000 Dissembling.

00:56:54.000 Fakery, lying, duping people, mass brainwashing, and according to some, even mass hypnosis, or the attempt at mass hypnosis.

00:57:04.000 No, no, he's definitely doing that stuff.

00:57:06.000 They have corporate classes on that.

00:57:09.000 People used to tell me about it a decade ago, I didn't believe it.

00:57:12.000 They really teach him how to do that.

00:57:13.000 Yeah, you know, there was Count Cagliostro and the French Revolution could hypnotize crowds.

00:57:19.000 I guess that's what Obama's trying to do.

00:57:21.000 One of the mountain banks of the French Revolution is now reincarnated in Obama. 0.86

00:57:26.000 So, the point, though, is that his method is this deception.

00:57:33.000 I think as long as that holds up, it looks like it's going well.

00:57:36.000 But then, as they used to say in Vietnam, it will become polluted by reality.

00:57:41.000 You know, all the promises that Lyndon Johnson made eventually crashed to the ground.

00:57:46.000 Of course, he was a much less clever Uh, uh, practitioner of, of deception than Obama.

00:57:52.000 So, people have got to change gears, right?

00:57:53.000 You're no longer dealing with Bush.

00:57:55.000 Bush is gone.

00:57:56.000 I know a lot of leftists that I know are still hanging on to this idea that Bush is their main enemy.

00:58:00.000 Well, that's, uh, that's long gone.

00:58:03.000 So, you're now dealing with Obama and his method is, is this, uh, lying and so forth.

00:58:08.000 And therefore, the, the idea of exposing him, like what you do in, uh, the Obama deception, This becomes one of the main things.

00:58:14.000 In other words, simply the loud statement of the truth is practically revolutionary when you're dealing with somebody like Obama.

00:58:22.000 All right, stay there, stay there.

00:58:23.000 We're going to come back in one minute, Webster.

00:58:24.000 We're at a third hour.

00:58:26.000 We've got plenty of time with you today.

00:58:27.000 We're very honored and very thankful that you're spending so much time with us.

00:58:30.000 Webster Griffin Tarbley, and we'll tell you about his books and other materials on the other side.

00:58:35.000 But yes, it was George Orwell that said, in an age of universal deceit, Telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

00:58:41.000 So I think that's a nice addendum or dessert to what Webster just said.

00:58:49.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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01:00:31.000 We're back live.

01:00:32.000 Thank you so much for joining us on this 25th day of June 2009.

01:00:36.000 This Thursday edition.

01:00:39.000 Webster with us for another hour and a half.

01:00:41.000 Opening the phones up at the bottom of this hour.

01:00:44.000 We'll just go ahead and do it now.

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01:01:06.000 Webster Griffin Tarpley is our guest.

01:01:10.000 Then I'll also go through news blitzes, get into the governor, which looks like a political hit.

01:01:16.000 Up in South Carolina and a lot more.

01:01:18.000 Also the video of the Chicago cop for no reason beating a bartender almost to death.

01:01:24.000 And the judge said, no sentence.

01:01:27.000 Keep your badge.

01:01:28.000 You're on probation for two years.

01:01:29.000 Good job, basically.

01:01:31.000 So, pretty soon they'll be shooting us for fun.

01:01:33.000 It'll be, hey, here's a thousand dollars.

01:01:35.000 Be a bounty on us or something.

01:01:37.000 I mean, just the mafianess of the government is just unbelievable. 1.00

01:01:40.000 Going back to Webster Griffin Tarbell, you're trying to make a point there, Webster, as we slammed into that satellite-initiated break.

01:01:48.000 Well, just look at what's going on.

01:01:50.000 The program of the U.S.

01:01:51.000 and the British for all these countries is partition, balkanization, getting back to a crazy quilt instead of a unified national state.

01:02:01.000 Brzezinski writes about this all the time.

01:02:03.000 He writes about microstates and ministates and how you need microstates and ministates to safeguard human dignity.

01:02:10.000 And, of course, it also happens that the microstates and ministates are so small, so impotent, so squabbling, so wretched, that they couldn't stand up against J.P. Morgan or ExxonMobil or Halliburton or Blackwater.

01:02:25.000 Czechoslovakia was divided into two parts right after the fall of the Warsaw Pact.

01:02:30.000 Yugoslavia divided into five parts.

01:02:33.000 Iraq divided into three parts.

01:02:35.000 Maybe two parts now and another part coming.

01:02:38.000 The plan for Iran is to divide it into six parts. 0.61

01:02:41.000 The plan for Pakistan into five parts. 0.79

01:02:43.000 Sudan into two parts.

01:02:45.000 And on and on and on.

01:02:47.000 Some people come forward and say, secessionism in the United States?

01:02:50.000 I don't think so, because that's exactly the program of the Council on Foreign Relations.

01:02:55.000 Microstates in many states in the U.S.

01:02:57.000 or North America would be... Well, Webster, I'm going to let you speak on this, but I want to be clear.

01:03:04.000 The mainstream media and Fox News and these different governors, including the one who's in trouble now, Anne Rick Perry, hijacked a states' rights movement saying we're not going to let the offshore banks control the federal government and through that hijacked a states' rights movement saying we're not going to let the offshore We're going to have the states redeclare the Bill of Rights and Constitution for the republic.

01:03:31.000 Then the media, in a split, miscast the movement as secession to the left and balkanization, which it wasn't, and to the right said, oh yes, it's good, we do want to secede.

01:03:46.000 And now they have Glenn Beck and others pushing for physical secession, So I agree.

01:03:51.000 I'm not for secession.

01:03:53.000 I'm for the states, like they said no to the Patriot Act, saying no, we're going to keep the republic in place and reconvene the federal government if it becomes a complete vassal of offshore banks.

01:04:03.000 But no, I agree with you, there's been an attempt, somewhat successful, To miscast or change the casting of this movement that I and others have been pushing into pure secession, not declaration of the republic rights.

01:04:18.000 I have a program for California, which can be adapted to any state, and I'd be happy if I could to adapt it if people have struggles going on in different states.

01:04:27.000 Okay, well we gotta break again.

01:04:28.000 I interrupted you.

01:04:29.000 When we come back, long segment.

01:04:31.000 Okay.

01:04:32.000 Flesh out that full point that you want to make about that, and I agree with you of what they've done to it, but it's nuanced.

01:04:39.000 People say, I'm saying secede.

01:04:41.000 No, I'm saying the state's right, 9th, 10th Amendment, where the feds can't come into Texas and take my guns.

01:04:48.000 Or they can't come in and say the Feds own all the water supply of the U.S. 0.56

01:04:52.000 and use that to triple prices.

01:04:54.000 Because the bankers can balkanize to get control of you.

01:04:57.000 Or they can use a strong central government to do it, as you know, Webster.

01:05:00.000 So I'm trying to head off both the paths by balancing the powers of the states against the Fed.

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01:09:18.000 Okay, Webster, I want to get into the economy.

01:09:20.000 So let's accelerate through your point about the secession movements around the world, how they balkanize everywhere.

01:09:28.000 Or if they can, they want a powerful central government.

01:09:30.000 If they've got that, that's fine.

01:09:31.000 But if they want to bring something down or shut off a region, sanctions, they fund terrorists, they fund racial break-off or religious break-off groups.

01:09:40.000 You were beginning to warn about that here in the United States.

01:09:44.000 The states' rights movement being hijacked and turned into a secession movement.

01:09:49.000 Then let's move into Pakistan. 0.95

01:09:50.000 Let's move into what you see happening in North Korea with Russia and then the economy.

01:09:55.000 Just in terms of what states can do, I would always say that the main level where you're going to fight a world economic depression is at the level of the federal government.

01:10:04.000 And I urge people to regard government as the battlefield where the people confront the bankers.

01:10:10.000 And if you don't fight the bankers concerning the government, in the government, then the bankers will control the government, and that's going to be bad.

01:10:19.000 But if you have a mass movement, of politically aware people, as you're saying, then you can push the bankers back and at least diminish their control over the government.

01:10:29.000 Now, here's what I think those states can do.

01:10:31.000 I wrote this program for California because this is the most acute case.

01:10:35.000 In California, you have the whole economy collapsing and the places descending into barbarism with Schwarzenegger.

01:10:41.000 You've also got this thing going on in New York, where the state government of New York has just about lapsed into chaos itself.

01:10:48.000 It's a situation... They're saying they're going to have the state police come arrest the members of the legislature.

01:10:53.000 It's unbelievable.

01:10:54.000 So here's what you can do, though.

01:10:55.000 Let's see, what can a state do, rather than assert, you know, general principles, or maybe in addition to the general principles, let's assert a substantive program.

01:11:04.000 How are you going to fight the Depression?

01:11:05.000 You want states' rights?

01:11:06.000 To do what?

01:11:06.000 Fine.

01:11:08.000 Here's what I would do.

01:11:09.000 Tobin tax.

01:11:10.000 You look around in California.

01:11:12.000 Let's take California, a good example.

01:11:14.000 Everybody's overtaxed.

01:11:15.000 You don't want to put any more taxes on people.

01:11:17.000 But you want a local Tobin tax, not what the New World Order wants, right? 0.98

01:11:21.000 No, this is state tax.

01:11:22.000 In other words, the government of California in Sacramento can say...

01:11:26.000 The only untapped source of wealth, the only, it's not really wealth, but let's call it a cash flow, the only cash flow that is not taxed six ways to Sunday is financial speculation.

01:11:37.000 Interesting coincidence, huh?

01:11:39.000 Financial speculation, the most harmful of all activities, the activity that brought us derivatives and the Depression, is completely untaxed.

01:11:47.000 So let's have a Tobin tax, a securities transfer tax, which would be a 1% tax on all derivatives, stocks, bonds, foreign exchange, commodity speculation, the kind of speculation that drives up the price of gasoline.

01:12:01.000 Won't the feds claim a commerce clause on that?

01:12:05.000 I mean, do something, right?

01:12:07.000 Don't be paralyzed by what they might do.

01:12:09.000 Let Obama come out and argue in the courts that that's impossible.

01:12:13.000 No, I think a Tobin tax, if you can have a sales tax in California, it's a 9% sales tax in many areas.

01:12:20.000 So, if you want to go out and buy a pair of shoes for your kid, you pay 9%.

01:12:24.000 What is the banker paid?

01:12:26.000 There's a big financial district there in San Francisco with, you know, Wells Fargo and Transamerica and all these people.

01:12:33.000 That huge stylized pyramid with the Eye of Horus on top that people may have seen.

01:12:37.000 They pay nothing.

01:12:38.000 There's no tax.

01:12:39.000 There's no sales tax on banknotes.

01:12:41.000 They tax us through the bureaucracy and all the money's fed into their mouth.

01:12:41.000 Exactly.

01:12:46.000 Yeah, so I'm saying, let's redress the balance.

01:12:49.000 And if you say, is there anything to tax that's not already overtaxed, it's clearly speculation.

01:12:55.000 So derivatives and speculation of all kinds.

01:12:57.000 1% tax paid by the broker, paid by the institutional partner in the exchange, not by you.

01:13:04.000 So that, I think, that would do it for California.

01:13:05.000 How about another one?

01:13:06.000 Stop foreclosures.

01:13:08.000 We've already, we've been on this program.

01:13:10.000 Oh, I gotta stop you.

01:13:11.000 I wanted to get into Malthusian economics.

01:13:14.000 He wanted to bulldoze cities.

01:13:16.000 He wanted to do things like that.

01:13:17.000 For those that don't know, I know you know Webster.

01:13:19.000 Obama saying bulldoze one-fourth of U.S.

01:13:22.000 cities.

01:13:23.000 This was the Brzezinski pole pot model for those that don't know.

01:13:26.000 And they just put it in USA Today like, well, of course we've got to bulldoze the cities.

01:13:32.000 I mean, this is, instead of just letting people live in those, they're making them go to sports stadiums in California and Hawaii.

01:13:40.000 We sent cameras out there.

01:13:41.000 As we predicted, you're not allowed to stay on the streets now or at a park.

01:13:44.000 You've got to go to a FEMA camp.

01:13:46.000 Meanwhile, the feds are federalizing the cities and are going to bulldoze neighborhoods.

01:13:52.000 Which is a code word for land grabbing.

01:13:54.000 Imagine the bulldozing Flint, Michigan.

01:13:56.000 This is just national suicide.

01:13:58.000 A healthy economy builds new cities.

01:14:01.000 You don't bulldoze old ones.

01:14:03.000 You develop absolutely new ones.

01:14:04.000 Like the science cities, indeed.

01:14:06.000 Places that are built around a specific new industry that's emerging.

01:14:10.000 But, you know, as you're saying, in California, this is the capital of the Obamaville, right?

01:14:15.000 The Hoovervilles of the current depression.

01:14:18.000 You want to do something about that?

01:14:19.000 All right.

01:14:20.000 State law, ban foreclosures for five years or the duration of the crisis.

01:14:25.000 And that also applies to family farms.

01:14:28.000 That applies to any business.

01:14:30.000 A restaurant.

01:14:31.000 A dry cleaner.

01:14:32.000 You can't be foreclosed on.

01:14:33.000 You can't be driven out of business for reasons of financial debt for five years or the duration of the crisis.

01:14:40.000 Because we look at the Austrian view, which I've heard you this weekend attacking, and we look at your egalitarian view, and so we let people decide and think about themselves.

01:14:49.000 But regardless, both of those systems are decidedly better than giving $14.8 trillion, as Bloomberg reported, in seven months to offshore banks, who then hoard the money and increase the price of loans and have accelerated foreclosures.

01:15:04.000 So they promised, Bloomberg and AP reported, $9.4 trillion would have paid off all mortgages, not just mortgages and trouble, $45 million apartments, penthouses, $200,000 houses, $100,000 condos, everything paid off.

01:15:23.000 That's our tax money to begin with.

01:15:25.000 All real estate paid off.

01:15:28.000 That's a dwelling.

01:15:32.000 But no, now it's worse.

01:15:34.000 No loaning.

01:15:36.000 Actual interest rates going up.

01:15:38.000 And then the phony right-wing will say, you're a communist, Webster, for saying, just freeze the mortgages to these criminal banks.

01:15:45.000 They've already been given more money than... I mean, it's such a scam.

01:15:50.000 But then meanwhile, the so-called conservatives want to give trillions more to the bankers and then have them not say where it went.

01:15:56.000 That's the new conservatism.

01:15:58.000 My method basically says, people stay in their homes.

01:16:01.000 You throw an American family on the street, it's a federal crime. 1.00

01:16:04.000 Wall Street can eat the losses.

01:16:06.000 And as you say, this is not the main thing in the financial crisis.

01:16:09.000 The goal of all these bailouts has very little to do with subprime housing or housing in any sense.

01:16:15.000 The centerpiece is derivatives, derivatives, derivatives.

01:16:18.000 1.5 quadrillion Of derivatives, credit default swaps, collateralized debt obligations, structured investment vehicles, asset-backed securities, mortgage-backed securities.

01:16:29.000 And the mortgage-backed securities is where the subprime business comes in.

01:16:34.000 But the goal of the Obama administration, the overriding purpose of Obama, is to try to bail out the derivatives bubble, $1.5 quadrillion, and it can't be done.

01:16:45.000 And the only thing you can do is realize you're dealing with a black hole.

01:16:48.000 It doesn't matter how much you shovel in there.

01:16:51.000 You've got to have some kind of a disintegration ray that you fire at the black hole and get rid of it.

01:16:59.000 But that's what I was going to say, Webster, is that you said five months ago, when I interviewed you for the Obama deception, that the more money we pump into the bailout, the worse it gets.

01:17:11.000 And that's actually happened.

01:17:12.000 Loans are down, prices are up, foreclosures are accelerating, and the bankers are saying, put more in the black hole, that will fix it.

01:17:21.000 And, of course, it won't.

01:17:22.000 So the answer, of course, is to shut down these banks.

01:17:25.000 In other words, 16 out of the top 19 banks are insolvent and should be seized this Friday by Sheila Bair.

01:17:32.000 And the fact that Sheila Bair, the head of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, has not seized Bank of America, Citibank, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Bank of New York, Mellon, and so on down the list.

01:17:44.000 It's the top 16 out of 19, as far as I can see.

01:17:47.000 That is a crime!

01:17:48.000 Sheila Bair is violating the law, and this is simply illegal. 1.00

01:17:52.000 She does shut down these little banks, tiny little banks in out-of-the-way places, rural America, out-of-the-way small banks. 0.93

01:18:01.000 The difference, though, Alex, is the Austrian school will, they may oppose what Obama does, but they still leave you with the Depression.

01:18:11.000 The American system Of Hamilton, Clay, Lincoln, Kerry, Roosevelt, Kennedy, which I'm trying to represent.

01:18:20.000 The American system actually deals with the Depression and defeats the Depression.

01:18:24.000 So one side can say, let's defeat Obama, that's fine.

01:18:28.000 But let's go beyond defeating Obama.

01:18:29.000 We've also got a real economic depression that we've got to deal with.

01:18:33.000 So California could have a Tobin tax, they could stop foreclosures.

01:18:36.000 The other thing, How about reviving a state-usuary law?

01:18:40.000 Many states, just about all of them, up until the Volcker era, had a limit on the amount of interest that you could charge within the state.

01:18:48.000 This is clearly constitutional.

01:18:50.000 And this was in place for many years.

01:18:52.000 When Volcker began getting up to that 22% prime rate, which meant, you know, for the average person, 30, 35, or more percent, These laws were swept away.

01:19:03.000 What I was going to ask you is, how did Obama's reform mean that you had a 15% rate on your credit card and it went to 25?

01:19:13.000 How is that a reform?

01:19:15.000 Again, it's the corporate state.

01:19:19.000 The only term for it is the Mussolini fascist corporate state.

01:19:25.000 Where corporation, it doesn't really refer to a modern corporation, it refers to a medieval guild, where you've got government, business, and labor together, obeying the logic of the banks, above all.

01:19:37.000 Not the logic of government or the people, but of the banks. 0.96

01:19:41.000 Yeah, the whole universe is a food chain feeding into them at the top, and they've got to destroy things to feed, so they're not builders, they're destroyers, they're parasites. 0.62

01:19:52.000 Webster, see, we kind of sidetracked into the economy first.

01:19:57.000 I want to go through the geopolitical structure, then calls, then the economy.

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01:24:22.000 I don't want to start taking your calls coming up in the next segment.

01:24:24.000 Webster, let's move quickly through what's happening in the rest of the world.

01:24:28.000 Obviously, the globalists, the neocons, the neoliberals, the New World Order, the Anglo-American establishment, the global empire, they want crises worldwide.

01:24:38.000 What do you see happening with North Korea right now, and what do you see unfolding with that in the future?

01:24:46.000 Well, North Korea has traditionally been used by the U.S.

01:24:49.000 under Bush, let's say, to maintain imperial discipline in Northeast Asia, especially when the U.S.

01:24:58.000 was getting ready to attack Iraq under Bush.

01:25:01.000 You might have thought that when the cat's away, the mice will play.

01:25:05.000 That might have given Japan and South Korea the chance to do something independent on their own.

01:25:12.000 So, in order to make sure that didn't happen, and this is actually an exercise in buck passing, as the theoreticians call this.

01:25:19.000 If you get a crisis going with North Korea, you terrify Japan, terrify South Korea, you force them back to the skirts of the U.S. 0.98

01:25:28.000 nuclear umbrella, to mix a metaphor, and you maintain control by having an artificial crisis.

01:25:33.000 So, Kim Jong-il, the dear leader, has been a great asset for the U.S.

01:25:38.000 in maintaining the imperial status quo in Northeast Asia.

01:25:43.000 Also, you know, scaring China, embarrassing China, creating all kinds of problems for China. 0.55

01:25:48.000 And I think that's what they're doing again.

01:25:50.000 As you mentioned, there have been all kinds of provocative maneuvers by the U.S. and probably South Korea.

01:25:57.000 The South Korean leader right now seems to be much more of a hawk than the one before.

01:26:02.000 You've got this, you know, every year they have this ULCHI focus lens exercise and so forth.

01:26:09.000 Yeah, that happened a month ago.

01:26:11.000 Former presidents being thrown off cliffs, all submarines and ships, planes flying over North Korean airspace, right while the dear leader is giving power to the next hereditary thug, who's 20-something years old.

01:26:26.000 Perfect time to try to razz them.

01:26:28.000 I think they've probably had some border violations and territorial water violations, at least the way they see it.

01:26:37.000 They are paranoid, of course.

01:26:38.000 These people are the true heirs of Stalin, I guess, in the modern era.

01:26:43.000 So it's a paranoid regime.

01:26:44.000 And it seems to me also that they must have been getting threats that the world public doesn't see.

01:26:50.000 In other words, some kind of a back-channel, informal envoy Traveler, who knows what, speaking for the U.S.

01:26:58.000 government.

01:26:59.000 Well now they're saying you ship even artillery shells to any country.

01:27:03.000 Every other nation can sell weapons.

01:27:05.000 We're going to board your ships and take them, which is a Cuban Missile Crisis level provocation. 0.63

01:27:10.000 So that's out in the open throwing the gauntlet down.

01:27:12.000 Right, and I think on this they're right, that if you aboard one of their ships on the high seas, that's an act of piracy and war, and that is casu spella.

01:27:21.000 In other words, if you want to take it that way, that can be the reason to get going with a war. 0.79

01:27:25.000 I don't know if it's going to come to that, but look, go back to Joe Biden's famous speech in Seattle, 19th of October last year, where he said, After one year, we'll be hated because of our economic policies, and we're going to need your support then.

01:27:38.000 That was the long perspective.

01:27:40.000 The short perspective was, in the first six months, Obama will be tested with a manufactured international crisis.

01:27:49.000 Uh, so six months takes us up to the 20th of July, so we've got a little bit less than a month for this to happen.

01:27:55.000 And the hype now, of course, as everybody can see, is that there's going to be some kind of a missile test from North Korea on or around July 4th, that this is a great affront to the U.S.

01:28:07.000 The Patriot missile battalions, I guess, sent to Hawaii demands for more ABM interceptors in Alaska and so forth.

01:28:16.000 But in reality, North Korea has put out their international alert, as all governments do in the U.S.

01:28:21.000 and Russia test missiles, saying, we're firing a missile into this area, in and around this date, nowhere near Hawaii it's come out, and it's on the death date of the first thug, They always test missiles, it turns out, on the death date, the day he died, so this is more just manufactured crises.

01:28:41.000 Right, and of course, it is their right to test missiles within certain parameters, right?

01:28:46.000 Everybody else does it, right?

01:28:48.000 Pakistan, India, Iran, everybody in the world has missiles, starting with the U.S., the Russians, the British, and the French. 0.56

01:28:56.000 It's a manufactured crisis, and I think the goal is always to maintain the subjugation and subjection of Japan, especially South Korea, and also to embarrass China, just to create tremendous problems for China, because the worst things are in North Korea. 0.91

01:29:14.000 The more refugees go across into China, the bigger the problem is for this very important Chinese province of Manchuria.

01:29:21.000 which is right above North Korea, Harbin and these places in China, big industrial centers.

01:29:28.000 So it's a it's a cynical crisis being artificially created by people like Biden.

01:29:34.000 And isn't it also for our consumption here domestically as well, not just to keep the entire area of Asia and fear? 0.99

01:29:43.000 Yes, I think.

01:29:44.000 And remember, with Obama, the door to false flag is now wide open, because the ruling elite thinks that he can accuse a country and be believed, which he could not be.

01:29:53.000 Let's cover false flag when we get back, and then take your phone calls, then get into the economy.

01:29:53.000 Exactly.

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01:37:04.000 You really want the straight poop, as they say.

01:37:06.000 This isn't rumor, innuendo, baloney. 0.86

01:37:09.000 This is scholarly.

01:37:10.000 All available at Infowars.com.

01:37:12.000 But I'll put you on the spot, Webster. 0.68

01:37:14.000 You're obviously in the Obama deception, the main narrative voice in there other than myself.

01:37:22.000 I remember I gave a speech in Chicago, first time I physically met you.

01:37:22.000 Endgame.

01:37:25.000 I've been interviewing you for more than 10 years.

01:37:28.000 And I remember you going, yes, excellent information, and learning you had a great knowledge of the eugenics model, the idea of these people.

01:37:35.000 The establishment is all moving at once right now, as if they know their window of opportunity is closing.

01:37:43.000 And they're moving with eugenics. 0.77

01:37:44.000 They're moving with one-child policies worldwide.

01:37:47.000 You know, getting rid of tax credits for kids and even trying to tax having children.

01:37:51.000 They are launching programs of climate cops training children to tattle on their parents in the United States, in Australia, in Canada.

01:38:00.000 It's in the news today.

01:38:01.000 Climate cops to fine wasteful homeowners and businesses.

01:38:05.000 Austin's already setting this up as home audits.

01:38:08.000 Has nothing to do with energy.

01:38:10.000 Literally this commissariat I guess would be the best way to describe it, but it's not communist, it's like a fascistic commissariat or political officer.

01:38:20.000 And they have the Green Police, in fact here's a shot of that for folks on PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:38:27.000 Green Police, and that as people lose their jobs it won't be an FDR, build dams, build roads, build rest stops, build power plants. 0.88

01:38:38.000 It will be literally tattling on neighbors, spying on people, watching surveillance camera banks.

01:38:43.000 That's all in the news now.

01:38:46.000 And the carbon tax, Al Gore.

01:38:50.000 Can you spend a few minutes on that?

01:38:51.000 Then we'll go to calls and then get into false flag and the economy.

01:38:55.000 The Federal Reserve Banker Reform Bill?

01:38:58.000 Is it the Federal Reserve can seize anything connected to any part of the economy?

01:39:02.000 Just the complete end of the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

01:39:05.000 We thought Bush was bad.

01:39:07.000 It's just a progression, an evolution from bad to worse.

01:39:10.000 Where the feds are announcing they're taking over the entire water supply, no more states' rights, they're announcing green taxes, they're announcing total takeovers, banking takeovers, Homeland Security reports saying all gun owners and veterans are terrorists.

01:39:27.000 I mean, it's so over the top, I'm having trouble processing it all.

01:39:32.000 Are they trying to just bomb Russia's like a human wave attack of tyranny, where we may shoot down five or six of the things, but three or four will make it, and any one of these is like a hydrogen bomb being brought into Liberty's bosom? 0.80

01:39:46.000 I would certainly say that one of the main goals of Obama from the very beginning is to undermine the rationality and the political will Of the American people.

01:39:57.000 In other words, we have this very interesting thing.

01:40:01.000 A woman who worked for Obama by the name of Sarah, last October, came out with her confession.

01:40:08.000 And it was late October.

01:40:09.000 And she said that the conscious goal inside the Obama campaign is to make you feel like your world is collapsing around you.

01:40:16.000 That there's no hope, and that all the forces that you look to to oppose the things that Obama stands for, that these forces were all simply collapsing, that they were all going over to Obama, giving up, and so forth.

01:40:31.000 And in the books that you've mentioned, I compare this to certain passages of Mein Kampf by Hitler, where he says, the main purpose of my rallies Is to undermine the free will of people.

01:40:46.000 In other words, to subject them to another will and force them to do what the dictator wants.

01:40:52.000 To switch on the reptilian brain, the primitive brain, to put you into...

01:40:57.000 I don't know about reptilian, but it's an appeal to irrationality, right?

01:41:01.000 It's certainly an appeal... I don't mean that as reptilian in a David Icke-ian way.

01:41:05.000 I mean the primitive areas of the brain.

01:41:07.000 Yeah, well, irrationality, which I think is culturally there.

01:41:11.000 I don't know about the physiological basis of...

01:41:15.000 You're a smart guy, Webster.

01:41:19.000 You know about the area of the brain that has aggression and sexual drive and all that?

01:41:24.000 That's called, medically, the reptilian complex.

01:41:27.000 Yeah, I wouldn't want to get into the idea of trying to explain human consciousness based on materialist or physiological basis, because it seems to me that most of this is culturally and psychologically.

01:41:39.000 No, I agree.

01:41:39.000 It's more complex than that, but go ahead.

01:41:41.000 Whatever it is, Obama is appealing to the dark side.

01:41:44.000 That's for sure.

01:41:45.000 So Obama is an appeal to irrationality with the goal of making people the captives and the thralls Of irrational drives, and therefore depriving them of their reason.

01:41:57.000 Because human reason is the point of all this, right?

01:41:59.000 That's what we want to... We want to have a world where human reason plays the larger role, at least.

01:42:08.000 And instead, what they want is to have irrationality, unreason, and insanity rule the roost.

01:42:14.000 And I would call them totalitarian liberals.

01:42:17.000 Totalitarian liberal is a term that was coined For John Maynard Keynes, Lord Keynes, during the 1930s, and this was the way the British ran their show during the 1930s and into World War II.

01:42:29.000 Totalitarian liberalism, meaning that they controlled every aspect, right, the stuff that you're going through.

01:42:34.000 At the same time, it's the bankers who rule.

01:42:38.000 In other words, the whole society is revamped according to what these bankrupt zombie bankers then and now... Well, let me stop you again.

01:42:45.000 Can you comment on the Malthusian view?

01:42:48.000 She goes to China, Nancy Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi goes to China and says, everything you buy, sell and do, everything you own, it's all going to be chronicled by the state.

01:42:58.000 I mean, they mean business.

01:42:59.000 This is neo-feudalism.

01:43:00.000 This is a system of serfdom, economic degradation, as a weaponized tool to keep you at a subsistence, subservience level.

01:43:11.000 Certainly, that's where I was headed, was the totalitarian liberalism.

01:43:14.000 Once you say Keynes, then you have to point out that the father of Keynes is Malthus.

01:43:20.000 In other words, Keynes is somebody who comes on the scene saying, I am an economist in the tradition of Malthus.

01:43:25.000 And once you've said Malthus, You've also said Darwin, and by that I mean the ugly side of Darwin, which is the main side.

01:43:33.000 But Darwin, when you think about social Darwinism, right, the survival of the fittest and the struggle for survival in society, that has always been the most brutal reactionaries.

01:43:44.000 Who come forward with that.

01:43:44.000 You could even make an argument that Hitler and Mussolini are unthinkable without Darwin.

01:43:49.000 So today, because of the factional situation inside the U.S., you have left liberals coming forward saying, Darwin is our man.

01:43:58.000 Darwin is a charlatan.

01:44:00.000 Darwin, especially what I'm referring to, is the blind watchmaker side of Darwin.

01:44:06.000 The insistence that everything in the universe is purely by chance.

01:44:10.000 And that's a way to neutralize our political will.

01:44:10.000 I don't think it is.

01:44:13.000 They always say, oh, it's just neurons.

01:44:15.000 There are no morals.

01:44:16.000 But then the establishment has its own dark, bloody, culling morals of the destruction economy.

01:44:23.000 Bulldoze cities instead of build starships to Alpha Centauri.

01:44:27.000 Exactly.

01:44:28.000 And I think that is the ultimate appeal to irrationality.

01:44:32.000 It's a total predestination.

01:44:34.000 In other words, everything you do is fated and predetermined?

01:44:37.000 Well, that's irrationality. 0.97

01:44:38.000 Well, it's a control freak religion to overturn the entire system and just hoggedly kill everybody because that means you win as you sit on a pile of skulls. 0.94

01:44:48.000 And that would be Al Gore, I guess.

01:44:50.000 Al Gore and these theoreticians of global warming, which is a hoax, a fraud, and it's transparent.

01:44:55.000 Again, as a historian, I don't need climatologists. 0.83

01:44:59.000 They're charlatans when it comes to this stuff.

01:45:02.000 The current variations of temperature are well within the observed historical range.

01:45:07.000 If we go from the medieval warm period, about 1100, when you had You know, various kinds of grapes and vines growing in Newfoundland, and even in Iceland and Norway.

01:45:18.000 You have wine culture going on in the North Atlantic.

01:45:21.000 That's a whole lot warmer than what we have now.

01:45:24.000 And then you've got this little ice age around 1600, 1650, maybe up to 1700, when the northern European ports were blocked with ice.

01:45:33.000 Huge icebergs came floating down.

01:45:35.000 Yeah, but let's go back 9,000 years to the beginning of the Bronze Age, when it was even hotter!

01:45:40.000 Precisely, so I think we're well within the historically observed range, and you can even, you know, you can go into the CO2, but the German chemist of the 19th century had records about that too, and we're well within those parameters as well.

01:45:55.000 What they're expressing is the class consciousness of the Anglo-American banking elite.

01:46:01.000 Very interesting observation.

01:46:03.000 Any prediction of the end of the world has a definite class content. 0.94

01:46:08.000 In other words, if somebody's saying the world is going to end in such and such a way, you look at that, that reflects interests.

01:46:15.000 It reflects interests of groups, of classes of people, like oligarchs, bankers, and so forth.

01:46:20.000 And that's Gore.

01:46:21.000 Gore is obviously, his ego ideal is Prince Charles.

01:46:25.000 He's very much under the influence of Prince Philip.

01:46:28.000 He thinks that he's an American aristocrat.

01:46:31.000 He'd like to join the titled nobility and feudal oligarchy of Europe.

01:46:36.000 And their basic idea has always been that the world is overpopulated.

01:46:39.000 Nothing new.

01:46:40.000 The argument that they had for the Trojan War, 1000 B.C., the principal oligarchical centers, like, you know, the cult of Apollo at Delphi, were saying, the reason we have to have the Trojan War is that the world is overpopulated.

01:46:55.000 There are too many people pressing down on the breast of Mother Earth.

01:46:59.000 So, nothing is new. 1.00

01:47:00.000 The oligarchs thought that the world was overpopulated in the year 1000 B.C., and now, 3000 years later, they're coming with the same idiotic nonsense. 1.00

01:47:10.000 But it's not idiotic if they're going to control resources as a tool of tyranny. 1.00

01:47:15.000 They don't believe this stuff. 0.96

01:47:17.000 They cynically know it's a way to control people.

01:47:19.000 That's why they'll go ahead and do all the other dangerous things they are doing environmentally.

01:47:24.000 Well, you'd have to look at individual cases.

01:47:26.000 Ben O'Gore, it seems to me, probably does believe this stuff.

01:47:29.000 Oh, really?

01:47:29.000 Even though he owns the main carpet credit company?

01:47:31.000 Yeah, I discovered that Gore was the owner of Love Canal.

01:47:37.000 In other words, Gore had a share in this worst toxic waste site of the 1970s, Love Canal.

01:47:42.000 He's the majority owner of Occidental Petroleum.

01:47:47.000 Yeah, so they have double think.

01:47:48.000 I suppose you can call this double think.

01:47:50.000 In other words, oligarchs have always hated technology, they hate science, they hate progress, and they've got to find a way that defines the rest of humanity as somehow bestial.

01:48:03.000 And inferior to them, because the oligarchs' problem is always, why should you be an oligarch?

01:48:07.000 Why should you rule and not somebody else that's smarter, you know, more moral, more honest, and just generally more desirable than you?

01:48:14.000 So they're going to say, well, we're the oligarchs.

01:48:16.000 Pelosi summed this up once.

01:48:18.000 People camped out in front of her house during the Iraq War, and she said, we are leaders.

01:48:23.000 You are mere advocates.

01:48:25.000 You're only agitating for this or that idea.

01:48:27.000 We take the responsibility of ruling.

01:48:31.000 We have a bankrupt ruling class.

01:48:33.000 I think this is important.

01:48:34.000 It also gets into the discussion of what do they know.

01:48:37.000 If you look at the endowments of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and MIT, they have lost between one quarter and one third.

01:48:44.000 The Harvard case is something that's going to be in the news now at the end of the month, the June 30th, coming up now.

01:48:50.000 We will know the losses of the Harvard endowment, which is the largest one.

01:48:54.000 It's going to be 25%, 30%, might be 35%.

01:48:58.000 How did they lose all the money?

01:49:00.000 When Larry Summers, who is now running the economic policy for Obama, when Larry Summers, the woman hater, remember him, right?

01:49:07.000 Women can't do science. 1.00

01:49:09.000 Larry Summers, president of Harvard, said to the people managing the endowment, put the endowment into derivatives, derivatives, derivatives.

01:49:16.000 And naturally, when that blew up, there were the losses.

01:49:19.000 Now, the question is, did Larry Summers, as an oligarch and a financier, know what he was doing?

01:49:27.000 I would say he didn't.

01:49:28.000 He wouldn't have put all the Harvard endowment into derivatives.

01:49:31.000 If he had actually realized that the bubble was coming down.

01:49:35.000 I think it's the problem of the oligarchy is they believe the world is overpopulated.

01:49:39.000 They hate technology and they love bubbles.

01:49:42.000 Every time there's an economic bubble, they run.

01:49:45.000 It's like a heroin addiction.

01:49:46.000 They can't help themselves.

01:49:47.000 And everything else they do Is subordinated to this idea that we've got to have bubble.

01:49:52.000 We've got to have a bubble economy.

01:49:54.000 We've got to have globalization.

01:49:55.000 And this is just the most recent form of things, you know, going back... Well, what do you see happening?

01:50:00.000 Because we're going to come back and get to... I mean, we're going to come back and go to Karl's Webster.

01:50:03.000 I've got to stop you.

01:50:04.000 How do you see this unfolding, though?

01:50:06.000 I mean, if things aren't going well for them, but they've still got the, you know, the force of their mass moving them forward, grinding over us, how does this all end?

01:50:18.000 Well, the situation of the U.S.

01:50:19.000 is desperate, right?

01:50:20.000 And we've got a thermodynamic breakdown going on.

01:50:23.000 If you look at this crash on the Washington subway line, right?

01:50:26.000 Nine dead on the subway that I take, you know, many days a week.

01:50:31.000 That's scary in the same area, right?

01:50:34.000 This should be the area where they keep everything nice for the imperialist bureaucrats, right, in southern Maryland. 1.00

01:50:40.000 They've had two big water main breaks.

01:50:42.000 So we're approaching the point of physical breakdown, and that's got to be addressed.

01:50:46.000 Somebody's got to come out and say, we've got to rebuild everything.

01:50:49.000 Marshall Plan for the United States.

01:50:51.000 But the bankers don't care.

01:50:54.000 They want to destroy cities with bulldozers and they're all going to live in palaces offshore. 0.70

01:50:59.000 We're going to take calls and get into the stage terror and the economy later. 0.96

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01:54:23.000 And we're going to get into false black terror, that ace in the hole.

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01:54:33.000 They're only intensifying the fear-mongering and hyping.

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01:54:42.000 Right now, let's go to Warren in California.

01:54:45.000 Warren, thanks for holding her on the air.

01:54:47.000 Okay, Alex.

01:54:48.000 I have two things I want to mention.

01:54:50.000 I believe it was Sunday night on Coast to Coast that George, that set in for George Norrie from Las Vegas, his news at the beginning of the show, he mentioned that two Japanese individuals were apprehended on the Italian border, and they had $120 billion in U.S.

01:55:10.000 Treasuries.

01:55:11.000 No, no, that was in Bloomberg and Associated Press.

01:55:15.000 That is true, so we'll ask Tarpley about that.

01:55:17.000 Go ahead.

01:55:18.000 I have no particular opinion.

01:55:20.000 It's a lot of money, but Switzerland is a paradise of flight capital, so I don't know.

01:55:26.000 Is that really that new?

01:55:28.000 The amount is rather large.

01:55:30.000 And what's the other point?

01:55:32.000 What's the other point, Caller?

01:55:34.000 Yes, I have an article from 1983 of the San Francisco Chronicle.

01:55:39.000 I don't have it right here with me.

01:55:40.000 It's about 400 miles away in storage.

01:55:42.000 That's okay.

01:55:43.000 But the article says the feds are ready to distribute private individuals' property.

01:55:52.000 And what it was, when they had the banking holiday in 1933, they gathered up all the stuff that was in safety deposit boxes all over the United States.

01:56:04.000 Yeah, they made folks turn their gold in, and then they gave them paper money back, and then a year later doubled the price.

01:56:10.000 They are talking about taking private property, seizing pensions to feed that into the bankers.

01:56:16.000 So let me ask Webster about that.

01:56:22.000 Reserve, quote, reform bill, openly, I'm sure you've seen it Webster, says they can take over from a hot dog stand to a car dealership.

01:56:31.000 Obama, it's admitted, if you give millions to the Democratic Party, he'll let your GM dealership stay open, but if you don't make the payoffs, they give it to somebody else or shut it down, even though it has an incredible value, they take the franchise.

01:56:48.000 Give us your take on that.

01:56:49.000 Well, that is the corporate state, the Mussolini fascist corporate state, as imposed now by the Wall Street banking community, where the Wall Street banking community takes over the government and runs it.

01:57:00.000 Now, of course, in the middle of that, somebody like Obama's got to maintain his own political interest.

01:57:05.000 I would just point to this Federal Reserve question, though.

01:57:08.000 The point of Obama's regulation is that the Fed becomes the regulator of systemic risk, and as you say, can therefore argue that the hot dog stand poses systemic risk to the derivatives bubble and the banking community.

01:57:23.000 That got a very bad reception in Congress.

01:57:25.000 A lot of Democrats in the House who don't like that one.

01:57:28.000 I saw, I think, Brad Sherman of California was one of them.

01:57:32.000 He said he didn't like it.

01:57:33.000 And now you've got this thing, Congressman Issa, also of California, has come out with this thing about Bernanke engaging in threats.

01:57:42.000 And blackmail against another villain, another finance oligarch, Lewis, the head of Bank of America.

01:57:49.000 And while we've been talking today, there have been hearings in the House Banking Committee where Bernanke has been treated rougher than I've ever seen a Fed chairman get treated by a whole bunch of congressmen, including Republicans and Democrats.

01:58:02.000 It's sort of conservative Republicans, anti-Wall Street Republicans, if you will, and at the same time sort of these New Deal Democrats getting together To beat up Bernanke.

01:58:13.000 I think now the political vulnerability of the Federal Reserve is probably greater than it ever was.

01:58:19.000 I think the auditing of the Fed is a great idea that should be done.

01:58:23.000 And then go on, though, because that will then have more scandals.

01:58:28.000 Time to have new Pecora hearings against the Fed.

01:58:30.000 All right, stay there, Webster. 0.95

01:58:31.000 We're going to come back.

01:58:32.000 I want you to elaborate on, if you audit the Fed, that begins the ending of the Fed or the federalization of it.

01:58:41.000 This has never been federal, folks.

01:58:43.000 And we'll be right back with Webster Griffin Tarbly in one minute.

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02:00:05.000 I'm Alex Jones.

02:00:20.000 We're talking to Webster Griffin Tarpley.

02:00:21.000 He's handling your phone calls.

02:00:23.000 We haven't even gotten into the ace in the hole.

02:00:26.000 The establishment has staged crises.

02:00:29.000 So it's all coming up in the next 30 minutes or so with our guest.

02:00:34.000 And we've got some other video clips and news I want to cover after he leaves us near the end of this transmission.

02:00:42.000 I'm going to go to Johan, Anthony, Annie, and others, Robert, in just a moment.

02:00:48.000 Webster, you're talking about ending the Fed.

02:00:49.000 I mean, this is so criminal, so obviously corrupt, it's coming out that Congress is subpoenaing over Bank of America, ordering them to buy up different assets, different brokerage firms.

02:01:00.000 Because, you know, the big mega-bankers at the Volcker or Kissinger or David Rockefeller level, they're always in the news.

02:01:07.000 In fact, Volcker is in the news today in Bloomberg at press conferences, blaming the CEOs, blaming the brokerage firm heads.

02:01:15.000 Who aren't they?

02:01:15.000 Just hired captains or mercenaries for the larger investment groups?

02:01:21.000 And isn't this the elite trying to throw a few little bankers or middle-sized bankers to the wolves to throw the wolves off?

02:01:31.000 Of their trail of the bloodhounds, off of their trail.

02:01:34.000 What's going on here?

02:01:36.000 The fascist corporate state, and it is a government-sponsored compulsory cartel.

02:01:43.000 It obeys the logic of finance, right, of Wall Street in this case.

02:01:48.000 A government-sponsored compulsory cartel for the purpose of driving down production.

02:01:53.000 You see that in Detroit.

02:01:54.000 Factories close.

02:01:56.000 Driving down wages.

02:01:57.000 The UAW has had to eat tremendous Bosses, right, they've been driven down to sweatshop wage levels. 1.00

02:02:04.000 So you're going to drive down production, you're going to drive down wages, and you're going to prop up the fictitious derivatives and the other fictitious pieces of paper capital that are floating around.

02:02:15.000 Notice the big robbery in the Detroit business, with General Motors in particular, was a $6 billion payment in cash was made to Citibank and JPMorgan Chase While the UAW, instead of getting guaranteed healthcare from General Motors, they got some shares of General Motors stock, which I think are likely to be worthless.

02:02:37.000 So the risk, the risk was shifted off of General Motors and shifted onto the UAW.

02:02:42.000 Another good example, the people who say that Obama is helping the unions must be standing on their heads, because he's doing the opposite.

02:02:50.000 He's destroyed the UAW, he's driven down their wages, he's taken away their benefits.

02:02:55.000 He's looted their health care funds, and he's going to do the same thing with the teachers' union.

02:02:59.000 So Obama is a consummate union buster, so much so that a lot of people can't even see what he's doing.

02:03:05.000 But the UAW basically voted themselves out of existence as any kind of an industrial union.

02:03:11.000 But this is all part of the corporate state.

02:03:13.000 You've got to create a cartel.

02:03:15.000 It means you've got to discipline the others.

02:03:17.000 A lot of little fish are going to get fed to a lot of big fish.

02:03:20.000 The winners are picked by the government, right?

02:03:22.000 Based on, well, JPMorgan Chase is a winner.

02:03:25.000 Goldman Sachs is a winner. 0.85

02:03:26.000 The Citibank looks more and more like a loser. 0.99

02:03:29.000 Bank of America, probably a loser. 0.97

02:03:32.000 And actually the squawking you hear from Wall Street is from the people who are on the losing end. 0.98

02:03:37.000 Look at Washington Mutual Bank, right?

02:03:39.000 The savings bank.

02:03:40.000 Fed to JPMorgan Chase.

02:03:42.000 A lot of people very, very upset about that.

02:03:44.000 Or Bank of America told, you are going to eat the losses.

02:03:47.000 Of Merrill Lynch, right?

02:03:49.000 This is all the disciplining that goes on in, again, the fascist corporate state, because that's the only way to describe it.

02:03:57.000 So, if they are unopposed, would they reduce us to Stone Age running around in loincloths while they're in armored compounds and in high technology reservations away from us?

02:04:10.000 I mean, because that's what they describe in their white papers while they, I guess, have hunter-killer robots out like Zardoz hunting us down or something?

02:04:19.000 Well, I mean, it may eventually come to that, but what you can see right now with Obama is the following.

02:04:25.000 I was being somewhat sarcastic, Webster. 0.94

02:04:27.000 My point is, is there just no end to their thieving?

02:04:30.000 They will destroy all of civilization for themselves.

02:04:33.000 Again, the $1.5 quadrillion derivatives bubble is a black hole, and you can shovel all the austerity loot and sacrifices and cuts into that you want.

02:04:43.000 It's still going to be bankrupt, so that means they're going to gouge Medicare and Medicaid And then, says Orsag, they're going to go on and start reducing your Social Security pension, which for a lot of people is going to be the only thing they have.

02:04:54.000 Yeah, because none of the taxes you pay will go to any services now.

02:04:57.000 It's all the debt created out of nothing by the bankers.

02:05:00.000 Stay there.

02:05:00.000 And derivatives bailouts.

02:05:02.000 Yeah, derivatives bailouts.

02:05:03.000 Going to come back and blitz through the phone calls on the other side of Webster Griffin Tarbling.

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02:08:18.000 All right.

02:08:28.000 Webster Griffin Tarpley is our guest.

02:08:30.000 I want you to hurry through your phone calls so I can get into...

02:08:34.000 But separate from Webster's solutions and ideas he's got, where he sees them taking us, and politically as a realist, how he sees things unfolding.

02:08:46.000 Because I agree with him, without some type of stage crises or terror attacks, Obama Is a political commodity that is losing value by the day.

02:09:00.000 And you will see an acceleration.

02:09:01.000 We've seen him lose, depending on the poll gauge, 20 to 30 plus points the last three months.

02:09:08.000 And we see an acceleration in that loss.

02:09:11.000 So that's important.

02:09:12.000 That's coming up in a few minutes.

02:09:13.000 Right now, let's talk to Johan in Europe.

02:09:17.000 Thanks for holding, Johan.

02:09:20.000 I would like Webster Tarpoli to explain how the state of Israel could influence the country of Cyprus to prevent Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney's second attempt to break the illegal blockade of Gaza.

02:09:32.000 Tonight she's going to be on Mike Rivero, What Really Happened.

02:09:36.000 As even before the vote had docked at the Cyprus port, there was an official waiting there with papers saying that it was unseaworthy, even before he had even taken a look at it.

02:09:49.000 How could This little country has so much influence on...

02:09:54.000 Well, I'm envious of Mike.

02:09:56.000 I know Cynthia McKinney.

02:09:58.000 People always say, oh, she'll come on, and then it always falls through.

02:10:01.000 But I'm going to get an interview set up with her, but I appreciate your call.

02:10:04.000 Yeah, Israel ramming her boat.

02:10:06.000 She's trying to bring medical supplies in to Gaza.

02:10:09.000 And then I did see a blurb about now they won't even let her into Cyprus.

02:10:13.000 And it's pretty obvious the United States and Israeli lobby is very, very strong over the police state that is Cyprus.

02:10:20.000 But let's get Webster's comment on that.

02:10:22.000 Well, I certainly condemn the Israeli blockade of Gaza, and I condemn what the Israelis did there. 0.92

02:10:28.000 They killed about 1,500 people.

02:10:30.000 And you didn't see the U.S.

02:10:32.000 media screaming about 1,500 people dead, as they have now about a much smaller number, as far as we know, in Iran.

02:10:40.000 And I would also point out that what Obama and Netanyahu are talking about is not really a two-state solution, but it's actually a kind of Bantustan.

02:10:49.000 Where there would be a limited sovereignty or maybe autonomy, self-administration, Banterstan, for the Palestinians.

02:10:57.000 I think what you've got to have is an independent Palestinian state with real sovereignty.

02:11:03.000 But again, none of that will work without an economic development program for the area.

02:11:06.000 There's got to be a Marshall Plan for the entire Middle East, or nothing else will work.

02:11:11.000 And if that would have been done 60 years ago, all this fighting wouldn't have happened.

02:11:15.000 The people are in starvation level, and you're going to continue to have incredible conflict, which is what the bomb makers, which is what the defense establishment wants.

02:11:25.000 They love a few hot zones they can dump weapon systems into.

02:11:29.000 I mean, this is really just business.

02:11:31.000 And of course, Obama's Cairo speech had nothing in terms of economics for the Palestinians.

02:11:37.000 The unemployment in these areas is 50-60%.

02:11:40.000 It's out of this world.

02:11:42.000 But Webster, Webster, doesn't that fit, though, with the Obama model of, he says, I'm going to be friendly to the Middle East and Persia, and then they launch the CIA destabilization.

02:11:52.000 Whatever he says, it's the opposite.

02:11:55.000 So he does the emotional salve, so there's not a blowback on the West.

02:11:59.000 And so there's a debate about whether we did this or not, when obviously they did.

02:12:02.000 Go ahead.

02:12:05.000 The idea with Obama is he's trying to appear to do a favor for the Arabs and the Palestinians.

02:12:10.000 He's really not doing anything.

02:12:12.000 With the goal then of using them as dupes, again, kamikaze puppets against China, cut off the oil, Russia, pick a fight with Russia, any way you can. 0.93

02:12:22.000 So it's not a good deal, it's pure demagogy, it's more of that trickery and dissembling that we've talked about as the hallmark of Obama.

02:12:31.000 Absolutely.

02:12:32.000 Okay, let's go to Anthony in California.

02:12:36.000 Anthony, you're on the air.

02:12:37.000 Hey Alex, it's an honor to talk to you.

02:12:39.000 I got seven questions I'd like to ask.

02:12:41.000 First of all, I heard you guys talking about bulldozing cities and towns in California.

02:12:46.000 I live in California.

02:12:47.000 What can I do?

02:12:48.000 The second thing is I live on a naval base where military laws every day.

02:12:52.000 You're not allowed to own a gun.

02:12:54.000 Third of all, how do I make a big impact?

02:12:57.000 That's wake up more people, influence the government with no money. 0.98

02:13:01.000 Fourth of all, how do I arm myself for under $20 if I can?

02:13:05.000 Fifth of all, front-side training, unfortunately, is far too expensive for me and my father.

02:13:10.000 It's $1,000.

02:13:11.000 My dad doesn't even make that much.

02:13:13.000 What can I do?

02:13:14.000 Number six, if North Korea strikes with a nuclear weapon and it's total martial law and the police come and try to take me and my dad away, what can I do?

02:13:24.000 And fifth, I want to make a comment.

02:13:26.000 There was an episode of a show called Star Trek Enterprise, where there was this Terran Empire, a parallel universe version of the Federation of Planets, that basically everything they're doing now, the New World Order, is what they do in that show.

02:13:41.000 It's got an earth with a logo, the logo is a sword, where the handle is above the North Pole and the blade tip is below.

02:13:50.000 All right, let me try to answer that.

02:13:53.000 I didn't even have time to write all those questions.

02:13:57.000 You ask about how to get firearms training.

02:13:59.000 There are a lot of free manuals online.

02:14:00.000 Frontsight.com has some.

02:14:04.000 If you can afford a firearm, I would suggest for training, something like a single shot .22.

02:14:10.000 You can get decent ones for like $100.

02:14:12.000 Go out, shooting range.

02:14:16.000 .22 rounds are very inexpensive.

02:14:17.000 Learn how to shoot with that.

02:14:19.000 And then you can buy something else a little more high-powered if you want.

02:14:23.000 But for training, there are a lot of manuals, online training, simple safety stuff, how to use a firearm.

02:14:31.000 I mean, there were just so many questions in there.

02:14:33.000 I mean, let's take the false flag stage terror situation.

02:14:38.000 The controllers, the oligarchs, could stage a nuke attack and say that North Korea had done it.

02:14:45.000 They could do anything.

02:14:47.000 That's why the head of ABB, Rumsfeld, Gave the reactors in North Korea to begin with.

02:14:53.000 That's why the West helped arm Pakistan. 0.99

02:14:55.000 This is all part of destabilization, so they can then play the part of the saviors later.

02:15:02.000 Webster Tarbley.

02:15:03.000 Let me just say, in the 1930s, what you see is, when you get depression, really serious economic depression of the type we're going to have increasingly, if you don't solve the depression, and fight the depression, and defeat it, and get a recovery, and some kind of turn towards prosperity, Then you fall into dictatorship, right?

02:15:23.000 Germany, best example.

02:15:24.000 But every place in Europe obviously went in some form of dictatorship, or just about every place.

02:15:32.000 If you want to avoid that, you've got to address the economic crisis.

02:15:35.000 You've got to end the economic crisis.

02:15:37.000 The only way you do that is with these American system or New Deal measures.

02:15:42.000 The Austrian side argues, well, we've got to let the depression play out.

02:15:46.000 We've got to let it take its course, right?

02:15:48.000 We can't do anything about it.

02:15:50.000 It's part of a cycle, and the cycle is not controllable by us.

02:15:53.000 No.

02:15:54.000 We can and we must.

02:15:55.000 So, the Tobin Tax, stop foreclosures, usually laws, and things like this.

02:16:00.000 You've got to defend civilization in California through political action, and that's what I recommend.

02:16:06.000 Political action.

02:16:07.000 Be political, right?

02:16:08.000 Whatever else you do.

02:16:09.000 Do all these other things, if that's what you think is required.

02:16:13.000 But the one thing you've got to have is political action, and it's got to be programmatic.

02:16:17.000 And generally speaking, the problem, as we see, is that the right-wing critique of Obama doesn't get anywhere.

02:16:23.000 And you can see this because this is what Obama loves.

02:16:26.000 He's always talking about Hannity and Limbaugh and all these characters.

02:16:31.000 This is the opposition that he desires.

02:16:34.000 He wants you to have to choose between Limbaugh and Obama.

02:16:37.000 That's a terrible choice.

02:16:39.000 That helps Obama destabilize himself.

02:16:41.000 What I think is likely to happen is a left-wing challenge, some kind of a New Deal challenge, to Obama coming out of the Democratic Party in the same way that Ted Kennedy, a weak vessel though he was to be sure, Ted Kennedy gave Carter a real serious challenge, which then crippled Carter.

02:16:59.000 I think that is what might happen in the Democratic Party, say, towards the end of next year.

02:17:04.000 Alright, let's take another phone call here.

02:17:08.000 Let's talk to Annie in New York.

02:17:12.000 You're on the air, go ahead.

02:17:13.000 Good afternoon, thank you both.

02:17:15.000 First an observation, a quick one.

02:17:17.000 You know, a couple of months ago, all the Mainstream media outlets were pushing Twitter, remember?

02:17:22.000 I mean, it was so orchestrated, it was like when all of the corporations came out with the, you know, boxes of goods on the store shelf in three languages, you know.

02:17:33.000 But now they're saying, oh, this Twitter revolution in Iran.

02:17:37.000 It's just, it makes me so sick that it's so orchestrated.

02:17:41.000 Well, by the way, ma'am, that's not your opinion.

02:17:43.000 The State Department and the CIA admit that they were running Twitter during this, and even stopped Twitter from doing regular maintenance that might shut down Twitter for a few hours one night when this was happening, and that these were artificial Twitters telling people they'd lost the election that had been stolen from them.

02:18:01.000 It was all staged.

02:18:02.000 The external polls, nothing to do with the Iranian government, showed That Ahmedinejad was the winner.

02:18:09.000 And this was a way to then get these youth, swarming adolescent masses, as Webster rightly calls them, to go out.

02:18:17.000 And then suddenly our government's all for revolution, while it puts out Department of Homeland Security reports saying protesting is illegal.

02:18:25.000 Webster, have you seen these documents?

02:18:28.000 Where they're saying the army's being taught all protest is illegal, and they're going to be shutting it down.

02:18:33.000 I mean, they're certainly getting ready for martial law, but I don't see them getting away with it.

02:18:37.000 Well, the irony is that the U.S.

02:18:39.000 foreign policy is now based on mob rule.

02:18:42.000 What's their prescription for Iran? 0.86

02:18:44.000 They say, we want mob rule.

02:18:45.000 Forget about elections.

02:18:46.000 We want mobs. 1.00

02:18:47.000 We want rioters.

02:18:49.000 The irony is, of course, then, that the same television channels were confronted with real vote fraud in the United States in the year 2000, in Florida and other places.

02:19:00.000 In 2004, in Ohio, vote fraud in favor of Bush.

02:19:04.000 When they were confronted with real vote fraud, they ignored it.

02:19:07.000 They didn't have any time for that, right?

02:19:10.000 They just swept that aside.

02:19:12.000 So they have no credibility.

02:19:14.000 And the Iranian thing is just a big fraud. 1.00

02:19:17.000 And Twitter, I guess, is a cultural campaign.

02:19:20.000 And you're right, the State Department and the CIA Obviously run, or at least partially run, Twitter.

02:19:27.000 So don't believe anything you see on Twitter.

02:19:29.000 It's also great when you turn on CNN and they're reporting what's on Twitter.

02:19:33.000 Twitter is a sewer where anybody can float anything they want and have it reported then on CNN.

02:19:40.000 Well, I mean, it's clear that it's come out.

02:19:42.000 I'm sure you've seen the articles, Webster.

02:19:44.000 Just admitting CIA and State Department run Twitter.

02:19:48.000 I mean, it's their tool.

02:19:51.000 It's a new year full of uncertainties.

02:19:52.000 People are being laid off in record numbers.

02:19:53.000 Look at some others.

02:19:55.000 It's amazing.

02:19:57.000 Ma'am, anything else?

02:19:58.000 Stay there.

02:20:00.000 Stay there.

02:20:01.000 We're going to come back to you.

02:20:02.000 Webster Griffin Tarble is our guest.

02:20:03.000 We'll talk about false flag terror as well.

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02:24:40.000 I'm going to hold Tarpy a few minutes in the next hour to finish up with Paul Slagterer after we're done with calls and we're going to let him go.

02:24:46.000 Really appreciate his detailed analysis and breakdown today of where he sees the world and how things are unfolding.

02:24:53.000 Great perspective, always.

02:24:55.000 Let's go back to Annie in New York.

02:24:57.000 You had one other question, Annie?

02:24:59.000 Yeah, and just give me a minute and I'll get off the phone and he can answer.

02:25:03.000 You know, you've got the CIA and the corporate media with Operation Mockingbird.

02:25:07.000 Congress has been bought off by the corporations.

02:25:10.000 The courts are corrupt.

02:25:11.000 Homeland Security has bought off law enforcement.

02:25:14.000 You know, the biggest story of the decade should have been about that FEMA videographer, Kurt Sonnenfeld.

02:25:22.000 And, you know, Webster thinks that we can do it through elections when we know that all these computerized voting machines are rigged.

02:25:30.000 You know, people say when push comes to shove, Gee, aren't we there yet?

02:25:35.000 Well, that's certainly the pessimism of the intelligence, but I think you've got to supplement that with the optimism of the will.

02:25:41.000 I don't say through voting alone, but through a mass movement that would get political and have a program.

02:25:47.000 You've got to know how to end the depression, and slogans will not do it.

02:25:51.000 Free market won't do it.

02:25:52.000 You know, big government is bad.

02:25:54.000 That won't do it.

02:25:54.000 You've got to know what you want.

02:25:56.000 It's got to be very specific.

02:25:57.000 Well, I know at least this.

02:25:58.000 I know we can do at least this, and it's simple and it's true.

02:26:01.000 The private bankers, the Federal Reserve, they did this.

02:26:04.000 It's their fault.

02:26:05.000 Their answer is more of the same.

02:26:07.000 Expanding what they're doing.

02:26:08.000 Audit the Fed.

02:26:09.000 Arrest the bankers.

02:26:11.000 Prosecute them.

02:26:12.000 The Federal Reserve broke the law with this Bank of America thing.

02:26:16.000 That's like Bush breaking the law with warrantless wiretapping.

02:26:19.000 He tries to get Congress to pass a retroactive.

02:26:22.000 That's what this federal takeover of the Federal Reserve is.

02:26:25.000 This reform is them trying to legalize the crimes they've already committed. 1.00

02:26:30.000 Arrest the bastards. 1.00

02:26:32.000 Get that drumbeat going. 1.00

02:26:33.000 End the Fed.

02:26:34.000 Arrest the Fed.

02:26:35.000 And then, with them removed, we can just having them off our back.

02:26:40.000 We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll then open a vacuum of, okay, what's the solution? 1.00

02:26:45.000 But until you arrest these bastards, I don't see anything happening. 0.99

02:26:48.000 And add to that, who should pay for the depression? 1.00

02:26:51.000 This is a depression.

02:26:53.000 Who should pay?

02:26:54.000 The bankers say, Obama said, we should pay, we should have Medicare, Medicaid gouged, we should lose our Social Security pensions, we should have the defendant of barbarism, old people on welfare should die, what you're seeing in California.

02:27:07.000 Who should pay for the depression? 0.73

02:27:09.000 By the way, you're not just saying that.

02:27:11.000 You're not just saying that.

02:27:12.000 Biden has said that.

02:27:14.000 Daschle wrote a book saying old people don't get brain surgery.

02:27:18.000 Ma'am, I appreciate your call.

02:27:19.000 I mean, you cannot make up how evil these people are.

02:27:23.000 And again, they use the right wing to say no welfare, nothing, you know, all taxing is stealing, and at a certain level it is, but then They use that phony right-wing argument to make sure all the tax money instead just goes to offshore banks, and we get none of it.

02:27:37.000 I mean, it is just... And the left is saying, tax the middle class, they're the enemy, when that's the main engine.

02:27:44.000 I mean, it's everything is engineered to consolidate power.

02:27:47.000 Let's take another call here.

02:27:48.000 Let's talk to Robert in Texas, and Robert in California and others, but we have an endless... We have a call from Italy, we'll go to next for that.

02:27:57.000 Go ahead, Robert in Texas.

02:27:59.000 Hi Mr. Jones, Mr. Tarpley, pleasure to talk to you all today.

02:28:03.000 I'm going to go through just something real quick here in regards to what the last lady said.

02:28:08.000 I think that if everybody does just a little bit, or just what they can, that will make a difference.

02:28:12.000 I mean a bucket of water is not a lot, but a million buckets of water is a torrent.

02:28:17.000 And with that being said, I have called before because every once in a while I try to get on the radio shows, the mainstream radio shows, and put a little truth on there.

02:28:27.000 And I was able to get into Sean Hannity's show.

02:28:29.000 I was able to get by his screener and talk about how the Bilderberg Conference fixes the oil prices and how Mr. Tucker and Mr. Esselin were able to predict that two years before the huge spike last summer.

02:28:43.000 Yeah, no, I put that in Endgame.

02:28:45.000 What did he say when what's documented in Endgame came out?

02:28:48.000 Did he just say it didn't exist and hung up?

02:28:50.000 Well, what happened was, I had the video up on my channel, it's Funkmaster5, I've called here before, and that's 5 spelt out, not the number.

02:29:00.000 He started ranting about conspiracies, and he even mentioned a mothership UFO flying around or something like that.

02:29:08.000 And then he hung up on me promptly before I could mention Endgame, because I had plenty more to say, but he cut me off pretty quick.

02:29:15.000 Well, that's what they do.

02:29:16.000 I mean, Hannity admits they're trying to set up a Bank of the World New World Order, and he says, oh, we're right, but only because he has to give us lip service the rest of the time he's there trying to discredit us.

02:29:27.000 Webster, this isn't going to work anymore.

02:29:29.000 There is a world empire being set up, and they can't deny it.

02:29:33.000 Look, I was at a conference recently.

02:29:35.000 I put a picture of Lewis of Bank of America, Blank Fine of Goldman Sachs, Pandit of Citibank.

02:29:40.000 I said, whoever gets all three gets a copy of my new book, Surviving the Cataclysm.

02:29:44.000 Nobody could name all three.

02:29:46.000 And I suggested, read less about flying saucers and more about your class enemies. 0.78

02:29:51.000 Those are the bankers. 0.98

02:29:54.000 Absolutely, they are criminals. 0.99

02:29:55.000 We'll be right back. 0.96

02:29:57.000 We're on the march.

02:29:59.000 The Empire's on the run.

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02:33:06.000 All right, I want to get into some financial news, break down briefly what I think happened with that governor.

02:33:21.000 Play some clips.

02:33:23.000 Amen.

02:33:23.000 Thank you.

02:33:25.000 I went to four hours a year ago because I wanted more time and now it seems like four hours isn't enough.

02:33:29.000 That's probably my fault.

02:33:33.000 Going back to Webster Griffin Tarbley and a few final calls and then he wants to talk some about this news about could there be a bank holiday?

02:33:42.000 Because we've been hearing about and confirming that the embassies are Being told, dump their cash, their U.S.

02:33:51.000 dollars, and buy up the local currency.

02:33:54.000 Now is that for war? 0.53

02:33:56.000 Is that for a bank holiday coming?

02:33:59.000 We'll get Tarbly's brief comments on that in a moment and talk some about false flag terror, the ace in the hole for the establishment that we've got to expose, as he says, break that tool by exposing that tool so they can't do that to make people rally around the system and run into the skirts of the establishment.

02:34:15.000 But Salvatore in Italy, you're on the air, go ahead sir.

02:34:22.000 Hi Alex, can you hear me?

02:34:24.000 Yes I can, Salvatore.

02:34:25.000 Welcome.

02:34:27.000 Hi.

02:34:28.000 I'd like to talk with Webster Starpley.

02:34:31.000 You're on the air with him.

02:34:33.000 Avanti.

02:34:35.000 Ciao Webster.

02:34:35.000 Senti.

02:34:36.000 Ti posso parlare in italiano?

02:34:41.000 Maybe I can make it real quick.

02:34:42.000 I'll translate it for you.

02:34:44.000 But quick.

02:34:44.000 Okay.

02:34:46.000 The question is, am I following Berlusconi?

02:34:51.000 What's happening to Berlusconi? 0.97

02:34:54.000 Yeah, why are they doing the scandal with the hookers? 1.00

02:34:59.000 Well, maybe I'll just...

02:35:00.000 Okay, this is an attack that comes from the British and the London, the London Intelligence Centers.

02:35:11.000 I think we understand the question, Salvatore.

02:35:14.000 Let me just answer.

02:35:16.000 Berlusconi is the most pro-Russian of all the European leaders.

02:35:22.000 And this is a tradition in Italy.

02:35:23.000 It goes back to the 20s and 30s.

02:35:25.000 Even under fascism, you had companies like Fiat and others going into Russia, Soviet Union then, building things.

02:35:32.000 Berlusconi is a big guy for the South Stream.

02:35:37.000 Pipeline, which is the pro-Russian pipeline, is against the Nabucco pipeline, which is the imperialist U.S., British, and European Central Bank.

02:35:47.000 Yeah, all these guys have girlfriends, and they're all allowed to have them, and boyfriends, as long as they don't get out of line.

02:35:56.000 The minute they do, like an Eliot Spitzer, or this other Governor, Mark Sanford, it's over.

02:36:02.000 Are you saying that's happening with Berlusconi?

02:36:03.000 Yeah, obviously.

02:36:04.000 Again, he is the most pro-Russian of all the Europeans.

02:36:09.000 He's the best from this point of view.

02:36:10.000 In other words, he wants... The obvious thing for Europe is promote East-West trade, promote energy exchange, European technology... Okay, so he was good for Bush and one of the few allies...

02:36:23.000 He's an opportunist, of course.

02:36:28.000 He's an opportunist.

02:36:29.000 During the Gulf War, he was... You've got to remember, who was giving you the nuclear umbrella?

02:36:35.000 And one of the things he was interested in was maintaining a U.S.

02:36:38.000 nuclear umbrella over Italy.

02:36:39.000 But the other thing is, if you look at where the Italian troops went, they went to the Italian-owned ENI, the state oil company.

02:36:48.000 They went to guard the Amy oil wells in Iraq.

02:36:50.000 They didn't do anything else.

02:36:51.000 They were just there to secure Italian interests, and then Bush said, oh, they're joining us in the fighting front.

02:36:57.000 They didn't do the fighting front, they did guarding.

02:36:59.000 I understand they hyped all that.

02:37:00.000 I mean, you could have a, you know, maid from Czechoslovakia, Czech Republican, they'd say the Czechs were supporting.

02:37:05.000 Does that answer your question, or do you have any other comments, Salvatore?

02:37:09.000 I want to say that the Sunday Times and the Times of London, who are attacking prominently against Berlusconi and the owner of this... Rupert Murdoch! 0.90

02:37:21.000 It's Rupert Murdoch going around talking to the hookers, yes.

02:37:26.000 he has a lot of them problem with the with the sky network it to you uh...

02:37:34.000 paper we can all come to each other so i don't know that they propose if that was going to want to fight back he should invite larry sinclair to come to italy and tell his story and see how that stacks up against the alleged peccadillo as a perlusconi Take the offense.

02:37:53.000 The defense is always hopeless, as Paolo Sarpi says.

02:37:56.000 Well, I mean, most of the elite in the United States like men, and they're probably mad that he likes 20-year-old blondes or something.

02:38:02.000 I don't know.

02:38:03.000 But it's very upsetting what he's doing.

02:38:05.000 That's why they're probably going after... That's probably why Matt Drudge is going after Mark Sanford.

02:38:12.000 If Sanford was dating men, it'd be okay.

02:38:15.000 I think that's a little bit different, Alex.

02:38:17.000 It seems to me the idea there is just to prevent any national figure Who could be a focus of resistance to Obama from emerging.

02:38:26.000 I was being sarcastic.

02:38:27.000 I was being sarcastic.

02:38:28.000 I don't see anything good about Sanford, you know, not taking the stimulus money.

02:38:32.000 He didn't want to pay unemployment benefits to the unemployed people in South Carolina.

02:38:36.000 Hey, I'm joking, Webster. 0.99

02:38:37.000 Webster, it's a joke.

02:38:38.000 I understand that.

02:38:39.000 Thank you so much, Salvatore from Italy.

02:38:41.000 Call back again, okay?

02:38:45.000 Ciao.

02:38:46.000 Take care, buddy.

02:38:48.000 Uh, hey, I know the word, huh?

02:38:50.000 There you go.

02:38:51.000 Hey, I can call my wife in here right now and get her to speak Italian to you, Tarpley. 1.00

02:38:54.000 See how good you speak Italian.

02:38:56.000 Great!

02:38:57.000 No, I'm not going to drag her in here. 0.91

02:38:59.000 She doesn't want to be on TV.

02:39:01.000 I'll tell you what.

02:39:01.000 Let's bring my wife in and have her speak Italian to Tarpley, but don't put her on TV.

02:39:05.000 She hates being on TV.

02:39:06.000 Will you call her in here?

02:39:08.000 Call Violet in here? 1.00

02:39:10.000 Actually, we're going to test your Italian, Tarpley. 1.00

02:39:13.000 You're always saying how good you are at it.

02:39:15.000 We're going to test it right now.

02:39:17.000 You know what Chow Bombo means? 0.84

02:39:20.000 Chow Bumblebee. 0.57

02:39:20.000 I don't know what Chow Bimbo means. 0.57

02:39:25.000 Well, Bimbo is strictly speaking a child, but then in the U.S. 1.00

02:39:28.000 it means something else.

02:39:29.000 No, I know.

02:39:30.000 Hey, come on in here! 1.00

02:39:31.000 Tarpley! 1.00

02:39:33.000 Come in here, Violet! 1.00

02:39:34.000 Just don't put her on TV.

02:39:35.000 Come on in here! 0.99

02:39:36.000 We've got to have something original and exciting here on air.

02:39:39.000 Tarpley's in there showing off speaking Italian to Italian listeners.

02:39:42.000 So I want you to speak Italian to Webster Tarpley.

02:39:46.000 Because I was just saying, Ciao Bumblebee, and he was saying other horrid things, I think, mean things towards you.

02:39:51.000 Anyways, I'm just joking, Tarpley. 1.00

02:39:53.000 We know we love you.

02:39:54.000 Hi Webster Tarpley.

02:39:56.000 Here, here.

02:39:56.000 Hello there.

02:39:56.000 Good to meet you in Italian.

02:39:58.000 Ciao, come sta?

02:40:00.000 Bene, signora.

02:40:05.000 Sit in the chair normally instead of leaning over it and talk to him.

02:40:05.000 Quit laughing.

02:40:08.000 I don't know what you want me to say.

02:40:09.000 Just talk to him about the New World Order.

02:40:12.000 Uh, can we do it in French?

02:40:14.000 No, no, no, do it in Italian.

02:40:15.000 You're good at Italian.

02:40:16.000 I urge you to talk to an Italian.

02:40:17.000 Non ci piace in the world order.

02:40:19.000 I don't know what to say.

02:40:20.000 I don't know, like... We don't want the new world order.

02:40:27.000 No, no, no.

02:40:29.000 No per piacere in the world order.

02:40:30.000 Niente.

02:40:31.000 Niente, niente.

02:40:32.000 Okay, ciao.

02:40:33.000 Tell everybody how handsome I am in Italian.

02:40:35.000 No.

02:40:36.000 I'm just having some fun, honey.

02:40:38.000 Hey, hey, hey, is the new world order not out of control?

02:40:42.000 It is out of control.

02:40:43.000 Hey, CMC of Tarpley speaks some French.

02:40:45.000 Let's hear that.

02:40:47.000 Go ahead.

02:40:47.000 What do you want?

02:40:48.000 Qu'est-ce que tu veux?

02:40:49.000 No, no, talk to Tarpley about the new order in French.

02:40:52.000 Okay.

02:40:53.000 Ask him about the stimulus package.

02:40:55.000 Okay.

02:40:56.000 I don't know what... It's much harder.

02:40:57.000 I don't know how you say stimulus.

02:41:01.000 I don't know how you... I can't hear him.

02:41:03.000 I can't hear him.

02:41:04.000 Mr. Sarkozy soutiens le nouveau ordre mondial des anglo-americains. 0.89

02:41:12.000 It's a puppet! 0.92

02:41:13.000 Narkozy supports the U.S.-British New World Order.

02:41:16.000 Right.

02:41:16.000 So talk about Sarkozy being a puppet in French.

02:41:18.000 Go ahead.

02:41:19.000 Il est un poup.

02:41:20.000 Il est un marionette.

02:41:21.000 Un fantoche.

02:41:22.000 Un fantoche.

02:41:24.000 Je ne sais pas.

02:41:25.000 Narkozy, c'est un fantoche de Londres.

02:41:30.000 Et de Washington.

02:41:32.000 Quelle honte! 1.00

02:41:33.000 Quelle honte pour les Français!

02:41:34.000 What a shame for the French! 1.00

02:41:36.000 Quelle honte, yes.

02:41:37.000 Quelle honte pour eux.

02:41:38.000 Oui, c'est vrai.

02:41:39.000 C'est terrible.

02:41:40.000 Il est terrible.

02:41:41.000 Voilà.

02:41:42.000 Terrible.

02:41:44.000 Okay.

02:41:45.000 I'm just having some fun.

02:41:46.000 We gotta have occasional craziness, honey.

02:41:48.000 A tout à l'heure, madame.

02:41:49.000 C'est un plaisir de vous parler.

02:41:52.000 Et c'est vraiment... C'était fou, hein?

02:41:55.000 Hey, hey, say, say, say, say, long live the Republic, death to the New World Order in French. 0.94

02:42:01.000 How do you say that, Mr. Tarpley?

02:42:03.000 Viva la Republique!

02:42:05.000 Morale!

02:42:06.000 Morale!

02:42:07.000 On bat le nouveau ordre économique mondial!

02:42:10.000 Voilà! 1.00

02:42:12.000 Tarpley, something else.

02:42:14.000 Hey, hey, let's see, let's see how Tarpley does on the Spanish.

02:42:19.000 And then let's do... I never made any claims, Alex.

02:42:22.000 Let's do the Denmark speak.

02:42:27.000 We may be losing listeners with all this.

02:42:29.000 Oh, whatever, Tarpley.

02:42:30.000 You've got to have a little fun every once in a while.

02:42:32.000 We've been serious for two and a half hours.

02:42:34.000 That's right.

02:42:35.000 Anyways, I thought I would, me and Charlie Sheen were sitting in one banquet room through the wall, listening to you talk to some Italian lady for like an hour while we were sitting there drinking coffee, and we found it to be quite entertaining.

02:42:47.000 So you're an interesting guy, Tarpley.

02:42:50.000 Thank you.

02:42:51.000 You bet.

02:42:51.000 Now, I don't have the time to take any more calls, but I do want to spend a few minutes here with you, specifically getting into false flag terror.

02:43:01.000 Couldn't we do the bank holiday since this is what I prepared?

02:43:04.000 No, no, no.

02:43:04.000 I mean, do both.

02:43:05.000 Go ahead.

02:43:05.000 Just go ahead.

02:43:06.000 Okay.

02:43:07.000 Look, the bank holiday, the reason I want to mention the bank holiday is because there should be a bank holiday in the following sense, that any Friday Sheila Bair should go and shut down the top money center banks, starting with JPMorgan Chase, Citibank, Bank of America. 0.99

02:43:24.000 And she doesn't do it.

02:43:25.000 And that's the whole secret of this system, is to keep them going as zombie banks, when they should be shut down, because they are so bankrupt.

02:43:33.000 The stress test that was done, as we learn, Completely ignored the question of derivatives, and that's like saying, you know, if you weren't head over heels in debt, you wouldn't be bankrupt.

02:43:42.000 Well, the point is, you are head over heels in debt, and you are bankrupt if you're one of these zombie bankers.

02:43:48.000 So, this is what is not done.

02:43:50.000 Now, the notion of the bank holiday, this has been around now for the last six months, because clearly the U.S.

02:43:56.000 banking system is completely Bankrupt.

02:43:59.000 What you've got to remember, though, is that the Roosevelt Bank holiday did not close any banks.

02:44:05.000 Those banks were already shut down.

02:44:08.000 The whole banking system had ground to a halt on the night before Roosevelt took office.

02:44:13.000 It all comes out of the British default on gold in September 1931.

02:44:16.000 You then had 2300 U.S.

02:44:17.000 banks blow up.

02:44:21.000 go bankrupt during 1931, and then you had this rolling regional crisis.

02:44:25.000 It goes to Chicago in the summer of 1932, then to Nevada, then to Louisiana, then to Michigan, and then finally New York shuts down on the last day of Hoover, and then Illinois shuts down.

02:44:38.000 So by the time...

02:44:39.000 Do you think we're going to see that here?

02:44:40.000 I don't think so, because I think that's...

02:44:43.000 The whole idea of Obama is to keep this system of zombie banks open.

02:44:49.000 And again, I write about this in my newest book, Surviving the Cataclysm.

02:44:53.000 I have a whole chapter, Models of Disintegration, which is about the 1932-33 banking crisis.

02:44:59.000 You know what?

02:45:00.000 I'll have you back on in the next few weeks just specifically about that for a few hours.

02:45:04.000 Thank you.

02:45:05.000 Because we're almost out of time, but I do want to briefly get you to get a shirt.

02:45:08.000 One last thing, though, is what's coming is a dollar crisis.

02:45:10.000 In other words, the reason the U.S. 0.87

02:45:12.000 embassies are selling dollars is there's going to be a dollar panic.

02:45:15.000 There's going to be a rush to the exit sometime soon.

02:45:18.000 Everybody tries to dump dollars.

02:45:20.000 It would be very much in the interest of the world to have that not be chaotic.

02:45:24.000 But to find a way to repatriate the dollars, let's say, you could say to China, look, you want to do healthcare in rural China, we can sell you a thousand U.S.-made hospitals with everything in them, turnkey hospitals, so you can improve health conditions in rural China, or in rural Russia, because they have a lot of dollars, too.

02:45:42.000 In other words, let them buy things, capital goods, real big improvements, right, things that will permanently help them, not consumer goods or...

02:45:51.000 Webster, we're just out of time here, so we're going to have to cut that off there.

02:45:54.000 Specifically, false flag terror.

02:45:55.000 Quickly.

02:45:56.000 Well, it could be anything, right?

02:45:58.000 Look at the pattern inside this country.

02:45:59.000 We had CHO at Virginia Tech in the spring of 2007, so you can have college students as terrorists.

02:46:06.000 You've had a whole bunch of Columbine-type events.

02:46:10.000 They've been going on in the background.

02:46:12.000 And now, more recently, you've had this Van Braun, right?

02:46:16.000 The guy at the Holocaust Museum here in the United States, and they attack him as being a 9-11 truther and a birther.

02:46:25.000 Somebody who's interested in the question of Obama's birth certificate, sort of the stuff that Phil Berg has been looking into in his law cases.

02:46:34.000 That looks staged to me. 0.94

02:46:37.000 These are all patsies. 0.97

02:46:38.000 Every one of them is a patsy. 0.93

02:46:39.000 That goes without saying.

02:46:41.000 But then you could also have false flag terror obviously targeting the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, Russia, China, people in Central Asia, people like this.

02:46:52.000 India, possibly.

02:46:55.000 More likely Pakistan. 0.98

02:46:56.000 I mean, more likely the new enemies list. 0.97

02:46:59.000 Of course, where India is... No, I meant activate some of the Hindu terror groups blaming on Muslims. 0.95

02:47:07.000 Oh yes, precisely. 0.94

02:47:07.000 Right. 0.94

02:47:08.000 And that's exactly what was done, right?

02:47:10.000 That was Mumbai last summer.

02:47:15.000 In the past year.

02:47:16.000 So, the door for that is open.

02:47:17.000 Again, the line from the ruling elite was, as Andrew Sullivan said it in the Atlantic Monthly, with Bush, nobody would believe him.

02:47:26.000 You couldn't do false flag anymore because nobody but nobody would believe Bush.

02:47:30.000 They would accuse him of incompetence or some would even say you did it yourself as a provocation.

02:47:35.000 So, the door for this, from the point of view of the US ruling elite, is open.

02:47:40.000 I don't think in the world that's true.

02:47:42.000 In other words, I don't think people are going to believe Obama very much more than they would have believed Bush.

02:47:46.000 But the danger is that the people in Wall Street and the Council on Foreign Relations and these people, the State Department, they believe that they might be able to get away with this now.

02:47:55.000 So we have to be very vigilant.

02:47:57.000 And of course, don't be stampeded no matter what happens.

02:48:00.000 All right, Webster, great job.

02:48:01.000 Thanks for spending two hours and forty minutes with us.

02:48:03.000 We'll talk to you again soon.

02:48:05.000 And you're in the Obama Deception and in the upcoming Obama film.

02:48:08.000 Right, and more power to you with these documentaries.

02:48:10.000 They're a tremendous ingredient in changing the political climate.

02:48:14.000 Well, more power to you and the listeners who are getting them out there, people.

02:48:16.000 Take care, Webster.

02:48:17.000 Bye-bye.

02:48:18.000 There he goes.

02:48:19.000 Okay, now I want to come back into Sanford, because I promised to do it briefly, with his weird Illuminati comments and things, and his Bilderberg group connection.

02:48:26.000 But then why are they burning him?

02:48:27.000 Did he go against them or something?

02:48:29.000 Just the way the media built this up, where is he, and then brought out it was with a woman, that's clearly a psy-op.

02:48:34.000 Because him with a woman by itself isn't big national news.

02:48:37.000 That's coming up.

02:48:38.000 But for two minutes, before I go to break, Ted Anderson, he's been holding for like ten while I held Tarpley over, because I wanted to have Ted back on.

02:48:45.000 Gold and silver went up again today!

02:48:47.000 But Ted has the price of gold that he bought when it was $20 lower, and silver when it was lower, and he could pass that savings on to you, and in these uncertain times, it's win-win-win-win-win.

02:48:58.000 Ted sells this to you right at his cost, ladies and gentlemen.

02:49:01.000 He sells it from when he bought it earlier at a lower price, still at a lower price now, and he supports this network, what we're doing.

02:49:07.000 Get into gold and silver.

02:49:08.000 If it's ten gold coins or ten silver coins or one gold coin or one silver coin, get into it, physically holding it.

02:49:16.000 Ted, you still, for a little while longer, you told me, got some of the coins left at a lower price.

02:49:21.000 Yeah, that's exactly what I have right now, Alex.

02:49:24.000 We got the prices lower.

02:49:25.000 We quoted them yesterday.

02:49:26.000 We both have seen gold and silver go up today.

02:49:28.000 Again, I'm holding the prices just exactly where they were yesterday.

02:49:32.000 The Lakota coin right now, $19.70.

02:49:33.000 Silver went over $14 an ounce.

02:49:34.000 Silver went over $14 an ounce.

02:49:39.000 That pushes that coin over $20.

02:49:41.000 In addition to this, we still have the British sovereigns and franks.

02:49:45.000 They're at $2.75 for the British Sovereign.

02:49:48.000 The Frank is at $2.22.

02:49:49.000 I have a long array list of other coins that you can ask about if you're interested with the U.S.

02:49:54.000 Eagles, the Maple Leafs, all the different things that we have.

02:49:56.000 Matter of fact, we have a bunch of Pandas, which I can't believe.

02:49:59.000 I usually never get those.

02:50:00.000 Oh my gosh, what about buffaloes?

02:50:01.000 Got any buffaloes?

02:50:02.000 Just such a small amount, you can ask for them.

02:50:06.000 800-686-2237.

02:50:08.000 A few weeks ago I did an offer, and I had the internal sheet from Midas of what it was, where you guys were making, what, 60 cents per silver coin profit, and on gold it was like $5 a coin.

02:50:19.000 I mean, folks, it's razor thin, and with the market up, Ted's losing money because he's not selling it at the higher amount.

02:50:28.000 He's selling it from the lower amount he bought it, even though gold and silver's gone up.

02:50:32.000 So there's hardly any markup on it, and that's when gold and silver was lower.

02:50:37.000 This is really a great deal on the coins Ted just offered.

02:50:40.000 So brokers will be there till midnight tonight.

02:50:43.000 800-686-2237.

02:50:46.000 Don't trust the bankers with all the stuff that's going on in the world.

02:50:49.000 Get some liquid portable private insurance, ladies and gentlemen.

02:50:54.000 686-2237.

02:50:56.000 And you heard him, he's got some of those great coins at great prices.

02:50:59.000 Thank you, Ted.

02:51:00.000 Yeah, thanks for having me up, Alex.

02:51:02.000 You bet.

02:51:02.000 Stay with us.

02:51:02.000 Final segment straight ahead.

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02:54:06.000 All right, South Carolina, 9-11 Truth, January of this year, I talked to Governor Mark Sanford, and he really acts like a genuine person.

02:54:29.000 I mean, you're watching his body language.

02:54:30.000 It comes off as real truthful.

02:54:32.000 I got invited to Bilderberg.

02:54:34.000 It's really a bunch of powerless old men. 1.00

02:54:35.000 They're kind of pathetic. 0.99

02:54:37.000 David Rockefeller, yesterday's news, and then they're like, but Bernanke was there, and Paulson was there, and all these other guys. 0.99

02:54:45.000 He's like, oh, and who's the other guy?

02:54:51.000 You know, Geithner.

02:54:52.000 And then he kind of acts a little deceptive.

02:54:55.000 And I don't know, this Sanford guy's a very interesting character, I'll tell you that.

02:55:00.000 I've not even forgotten that he'd been at the 2008 Bilderberg that I covered in Chantilly, Virginia, that we actually cover in the Obama deception.

02:55:06.000 That's the type of stuff that's in this film.

02:55:09.000 I'd forgotten about that.

02:55:10.000 So here's part of that clip, and then there's another clip where he gives this weird speech at a tea party about the all-seeing eye of God and all this stuff.

02:55:17.000 But what's clear here is they Hyped up, where is he, where is he, to get a big national controversy going to then say it was his girlfriend.

02:55:29.000 So they wanted to destroy him.

02:55:31.000 The establishment wanted to do this.

02:55:32.000 So, is it because he made fun of David Rockefeller?

02:55:36.000 I don't know.

02:55:36.000 Here it is.

02:55:37.000 Back in early June, your name surfaced on the attendee list of the 2008 Bilderberg meeting that was held at the Westfield Marriott in Chantilly, Virginia.

02:55:43.000 Many of us find it strange that the entire three-day conference is completely blacked out of all mainstream news outlets every year.

02:55:48.000 There are many citizens that are concerned about secrecy.

02:55:50.000 Here's why.

02:55:51.000 At the 2005 meeting in Munich, leaked talking points indicated that Bilderberg expected oil prices to surge over the next 12 months, which is exactly what happened.

02:55:59.000 We also know that from the 2006 meeting in Ottawa, it came out ahead of time that the subprime mortgage bubble was going to burst, which is exactly what happened.

02:56:05.000 My question for you is, what did you guys talk about up there, and in your opinion, Governor, why isn't the media allowed to report on the Bilderberg scandal?

02:56:11.000 Sure.

02:56:13.000 I don't know.

02:56:14.000 I think there's a lot of intrigue and conspiracy theory on that one that really doesn't exist, at least based on my limited experience.

02:56:22.000 I can't speak for what's happened there over the years.

02:56:24.000 I was invited by a friend.

02:56:27.000 He said you'll learn a lot.

02:56:29.000 It was apparently originally set up after World War II to try and keep the link between Europe and America from the standpoint of keeping the conversation going.

02:56:39.000 That's largely what went on.

02:56:41.000 And so, I mean, with all due respect to conversation, there were a bunch of guys who thought they were smart, saying, hey, I think this or I think that.

02:56:53.000 Right.

02:56:53.000 I'm coming.

02:56:55.000 And so I guess...

02:56:58.000 I'd say, I never, regardless of who it's with, with the exception of maybe terrorists, I don't think conversation is a bad thing.

02:57:07.000 None of these people had the keys to power.

02:57:09.000 They were all folks that, well that's not true, there were two Senators there and there were two Governors.

02:57:16.000 - Sure. - Was it a Republican governor or a Democratic governor?

02:57:23.000 And so they talked about what was going to happen next in the relation with China, what was going to happen next in the relation to Europe, what was going to happen next in And so I thought it was interesting.

02:57:34.000 And so I understand that a lot of conservatives are very messed up.

02:57:37.000 I called a number of friends and they called me and said, well, why'd you go?

02:57:39.000 I said, well, look, a friend asked.

02:57:40.000 I didn't know it was such a big deal.

02:57:42.000 Yeah.

02:57:44.000 If it was a hundred and some of the Hollywood top-notch stars, the media would be swarming that place.

02:57:49.000 Right, right.

02:57:49.000 But this is a hundred and some of the most powerful power brokers across the world.

02:57:52.000 But they're really not.

02:57:54.000 I just, with all due respect to the folks who are there.

02:57:55.000 Folks like David Rockefeller and...

02:57:56.000 David Rockefeller is a yesterday's news kind of guy.

02:58:00.000 Henry Paulson was there, Ben Bernanke.

02:58:01.000 I mean, that's some heavy hitters there. 0.99

02:58:06.000 Maybe they were, they weren't there.

02:58:07.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:58:08.000 Are you sure about that?

02:58:09.000 Oh yeah, I got the list right here.

02:58:10.000 Let's stop right there, that's enough.

02:58:14.000 And then he looks a little deceptive. 1.00

02:58:16.000 But if he is a liar, he's an incredible liar. 0.94

02:58:17.000 But see, they bring in politicians they want to kind of vet for just like five-hour meetings. 0.97

02:58:22.000 But it goes on for three days.

02:58:23.000 See, just because you've been an attendee doesn't mean you're part of the New World Order.

02:58:28.000 But if you're a member, definitely.

02:58:30.000 Now, I don't have time to play it.

02:58:31.000 I'll play it tomorrow.

02:58:33.000 We've got the clip up on InfoWars.com.

02:58:34.000 This one right here, where he's talking about all seeing eyes of God and all this weird New World Order stuff.

02:58:40.000 So, something's going on with this Sanford guy.

02:58:42.000 We're watching it.

02:58:43.000 Pre-transmission starts now at InfoWars.com.

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