Alex Jones Show - 20090630_Tue_Alex

00:00:04.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:20.000 We are simulcasting the syndicated radio transmission at PrisonPlanet.tv today.

00:00:46.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:00:49.000 And we are now eight minutes into the second hour today.

00:00:53.000 Dr. Tim Ball is a climatologist, PhD, retired university professor, and global warming skeptic.

00:01:00.000 He heads the Natural Resources Stewardship Project and is the former head of Friends of Science, a non-profit organization of those who are skeptical of human-caused global warming.

00:01:11.000 And Dr. Ball, I would just add for all of the viewers out there, can speak to the fact that 37,000 scientists wrote a letter to the Congress and they signed a petition saying man-made global warming is an absolute fraud.

00:01:36.000 And to that, Al Gore being questioned a month ago said, oh, and I'm sure that they believe we didn't land on the moon either.

00:01:42.000 These are conspiracy theorists.

00:01:43.000 Well, you're not a scientist, Al Gore.

00:01:45.000 You're a con artist that owns the major carbon trading company.

00:01:49.000 You also own a controlling share in Occidental Petroleum. 0.96

00:01:52.000 You're an oil man. 1.00

00:01:53.000 You're a hypocrite. 1.00

00:01:54.000 The big energy companies are behind this as well. 1.00

00:01:56.000 This is a way to rape the people, put us into neo-feudalism, and control the resources. 0.60

00:02:01.000 This is a vertical integration of society.

00:02:05.000 To say that man-made global warming is real is to say that Al Gore invented the Internet.

00:02:09.000 I mean, that arrogant person in the early 90s said he invented the Internet?

00:02:15.000 Which, in no literature anywhere, it's well known that DARPA and also some British scientists, I mean, they're credited in the encyclopedia for inventing the Internet in the 60s.

00:02:26.000 My father was at UT in the 60s when they were, he knew some of the research departments that were talking about the internet before it had that name.

00:02:36.000 Computerized data transfer systems over phone lines in case of nuclear war.

00:02:42.000 I mean, this is like saying Al Gore discovered that The Earth is round and not Copernicus.

00:02:48.000 It's like saying Al Gore discovered dynamite and not Nobel.

00:02:54.000 It is just... He is a con artist of the highest order and the science of the... We probably interviewed over a hundred climatologists, physicists here on air.

00:03:06.000 The fact is the vast majority say it's a total fraud.

00:03:09.000 Only research scientists Who are on government or environmental group, land grabbing group payroll, come out and say it's real.

00:03:18.000 And they've been caught in mainstream news fixing the buoy data, lying and saying that buoys and weather stations showed record heat in Siberia or record heat in Africa.

00:03:27.000 Turned out we've had record cold.

00:03:31.000 But school kids are now being taught that seasons are unnatural even.

00:03:35.000 So this is very, and Al Gore says we need to terraform the planet because now they're not saying global warming anymore.

00:03:44.000 Because that's been proven to be a fraud.

00:03:46.000 Then it was climate change, but people go, wait, climate change is a normal cycle.

00:03:49.000 Now the PR firms have come out in the New York Times and said the White House has ordered everybody to say, deteriorating atmosphere.

00:03:57.000 Now they actually brought some truth out.

00:03:59.000 And we're going to go to the professor.

00:04:01.000 Because according to climatologists we've interviewed, the Earth is in a very low carbon dioxide oxygen level.

00:04:07.000 According to the different bog samples they've gotten from hundreds of thousands of years ago, ice core samples, and that plants and animals like higher carbon dioxide and oxygen.

00:04:17.000 But that's biologists we've had on on that subject.

00:04:19.000 Dr. Tim Ball, climatologist, joins us.

00:04:23.000 Just an amazing researcher, and we're honored to have him for the next 40-45 minutes.

00:04:27.000 Thank you for coming on, sir.

00:04:29.000 It's a great opportunity.

00:04:30.000 And by the way, Alex, they've switched also, they went and I call it moving the goalposts, as you said, global warming, when they discovered that the temperatures were going down but the CO2 was still going up.

00:04:42.000 So they switched then to climate change.

00:04:45.000 Then when we started to explain to the public that, look, the climate change is naturally all the time and much, much more than they understand.

00:04:53.000 And then they switched again, as you said, the politicians came up with that term.

00:04:57.000 But they're also using terms like climate chaos and climate catastrophe.

00:05:01.000 And of course, you've got to keep the scare factor up, the fear factor up, to bamboozle people and push your agenda.

00:05:09.000 So, yeah, it's really disturbing what's going on.

00:05:16.000 Well, sir, break down the basics for people of what's really going on, the fact that the majority of scientists that I've seen, you know, the UN's got 2,000 scientists, a bunch of them came out and said we didn't even agree to their theory, they just put our names on this, you guys have 37,000 and growing, and then this blanket lie of man-made climate change is real, and anybody that questions it is a conspiracy theorist.

00:05:46.000 Once you start to get to the name-calling ad hominem, as it's said in Latin, then you know that you're losing the argument.

00:05:53.000 But just to put this whole thing in perspective, you have to think about, Alex, why the focus on CO2?

00:06:00.000 It's such a small part of the total atmospheric system and mechanisms.

00:06:06.000 In fact, it's a very small part of the greenhouse gases.

00:06:09.000 It's less than 4%.

00:06:11.000 And it's very interesting, the EPA, with their latest Changes where they're going to make co2 a toxic substance and methane and so on They don't even mention the most important greenhouse gas, which is water vapor.

00:06:24.000 It's 95% of the greenhouse gases by volume So you really have to ask your question why the co2 and my whole career I've gone through this and by the way, you know the numbers they come out with all of the consensus is and as you mentioned the 2500 With the IPCC and now the 37,000 with the Oregon petition and so on.

00:06:44.000 But consensus is not a scientific fact.

00:06:47.000 And so I'm a bit leery about those numbers.

00:06:50.000 You really need to look at why the focus on CO2 and what's going on here.

00:06:55.000 And the answer, when you dig deep, goes back to a gentleman by the name of Morris Strong.

00:07:03.000 Now he's currently in China.

00:07:05.000 And I understand he's moved there to escape charges by the U.S.

00:07:09.000 government of his involvement with Kofi Annan and their sons in the food for oil in Iraq situation.

00:07:18.000 But he's set up there to sell carbon credits out of China, just like Al Gore profiting from it, and also with George Soros to build very, very cheap small cars to import to the U.S.

00:07:30.000 But Maury Strong, about 30 years ago, said the problem for the planet are the industrialized nations, and isn't it our responsibility to get rid of them?

00:07:40.000 Now, I'm not going to say that industry hasn't created some small problems, no question, but the vast majority of what they've done has been for the betterment of human beings and so on.

00:07:52.000 But you need to think about, how would you go about destroying the industrialized nations?

00:07:59.000 If you think about those industrialized nations like the engine in a car, because that's a very good analogy for them, they were a carbon-based society, that you can stop the engine by squeezing the fuel line.

00:08:13.000 But if you do that immediately, people will scream.

00:08:16.000 You saw this recently with the increase in gasoline prices and everybody's immediately mad.

00:08:22.000 But if you could show that the byproduct of those industrialized nations is destroying the planet, Then you could effectively shut down those industrialized nations.

00:08:33.000 That's why CO2, the byproduct of burning the fossil fuels, became the focus.

00:08:39.000 And then Strong, when he was asked by Elaine Doerr in a book called Cloak of Green, she said, well, why didn't you run in politics?

00:08:48.000 And he said, you can't do anything as a politician.

00:08:51.000 I went to the UN where I could get all the money I wanted with no accountability whatsoever.

00:08:58.000 And he set up the United Nations Environment Program.

00:09:01.000 That became the foundation for it.

00:09:04.000 That United Nations Environment Program defined climate change as human-caused climate change.

00:09:13.000 And then he set up the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which was to do the scientific investigation of it.

00:09:20.000 And as you pointed out, they list 2,500 people, but less than 500 of them are actually scientists.

00:09:28.000 Well, I've served on a lot of commissions and inquiries, and one of the things that I learned, Alex, is that commissions of inquiry are wonderful things for politicians, because it allows them to defer the heat.

00:09:43.000 So if an issue comes up and says, oh, we need a commission of inquiry, OK, we'll have a commission of inquiry.

00:09:48.000 Then the media can go to the politicians and say, well, sorry, we can't comment until we get the report.

00:09:53.000 We're looking at it.

00:09:53.000 We don't know.

00:09:56.000 By the time the report comes in, of course, the issue has become not that critical.

00:10:01.000 The media have moved on to other things and so on, so it differs.

00:10:05.000 But they also control the output of these commission reports.

00:10:09.000 And as I said, I experienced this firsthand by the terms of reference that they write.

00:10:15.000 Just to put that in a U.S.

00:10:17.000 perspective, you think about the Warren Commission into the Kennedy assassination.

00:10:22.000 And several times they asked Judge Warren, well, why didn't you look at this?

00:10:26.000 And his response quite often was, well, it wasn't in my terms of reference.

00:10:31.000 And so that's how they control the output.

00:10:34.000 And so this is what Maurice Strong did when he set up the IPCC.

00:10:38.000 He wrote the terms of reference.

00:10:40.000 One of the first terms of reference is that the climate change definition is that you only look at human causes of climate change.

00:10:48.000 And then the second thing that they did was, they wrote it so that you do the science report, or the technical report as it's called, that's then set aside, and then you write the summary for policymakers, which is done by bureaucrats and politicians.

00:11:05.000 And the summary for policymakers is released before the science report is released.

00:11:12.000 And in 2007 it was done in April and the science report came out in November.

00:11:15.000 But the summary then goes to the people that wrote the science report and says, make sure your science report agrees with what we've written in the summary.

00:11:25.000 So this is like an executive of a company saying to the employees, look, I've written a summary.

00:11:30.000 I want you to write a report that confirms my summary.

00:11:34.000 Yeah, totally, totally rigged.

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00:17:07.000 Maury Strong back in the 70s and 80s got a lot of criticism for saying you should have to have a license to have children and they put it in Hollywood movies and culture and then all the yuppies say well of course there's too many people.

00:17:17.000 Yeah but they mean you too.

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00:17:35.000 State Department Memorandum 200 is on record saying they wanted to force people not to have kids and how to use war and famine and to get countries in so much debt that all the government spending goes to debt instead of the people and so societies collapse.

00:17:51.000 We're talking to climatologist Dr. Tim Ball.

00:17:54.000 And, you know, last time we had him on, he got into the science about global warming.

00:17:57.000 It wasn't man-made, it was natural.

00:17:59.000 It was actually a good thing, but unfortunately we're going into a cooling cycle with the ice caps of Mars getting bigger and some of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn refreezing.

00:18:08.000 They've become liquid.

00:18:09.000 They were liquid methane, now they're freezing.

00:18:12.000 And notice he's just talking about what the overall agenda is.

00:18:16.000 And I think that's the way to counter these people.

00:18:18.000 Instead of arguing with people that say they invented the internet and things, it's better just to show they're a pack of criminals trying to vertically integrate the economy and carry out eugenics. 0.96

00:18:27.000 But I think that's the direction you were going, Dr. Ball.

00:18:31.000 Yes, and I think that one of the things that they've very cleverly done, and as you know, Alex, you can win any argument by just distracting from the wider picture by focusing on one small point, and the focusing on CO2 to the distraction of the much wider issues is really how they've perpetuated this.

00:18:52.000 And of course, then anybody that dared to stand up and question it is immediately attacked.

00:18:57.000 Oh, climate skeptic?

00:18:59.000 Well, I was called that years ago.

00:19:01.000 I'm proud of that.

00:19:02.000 All scientists should be skeptics.

00:19:03.000 They're trying to make it a hate crime in Europe.

00:19:06.000 Oh, I'm sure.

00:19:07.000 Yeah.

00:19:07.000 Akin to denying the Holocaust.

00:19:09.000 Oh yeah, and James Hansen, the head of NASA Guess, who just was arrested for protesting at a coal plant as a civil servant, which makes you wonder what's going on, but he's made statements like we should be in jail.

00:19:21.000 And we've got David Suzuki up here in Canada saying the same thing, that people should be in jail. 0.96

00:19:26.000 He also says humans are maggots that basically need to be exterminated. 0.81

00:19:30.000 Yeah, well, and one of the things that when you look at the whole environmental movement, and by the way, we needed to become It's a bunch of gibbering control freaks who get off on pressing on the nerve of power. 0.98

00:19:42.000 They've hijacked legitimate concerns against pollution and things like that.

00:19:46.000 Exactly, and one of the ways that it's coming back on them a little bit, Alex, is that I've dealt with my whole career with extremism and wondered what its purpose was, and I finally realized that it's the extremists that define the limits for the majority.

00:20:02.000 I'll give you an example.

00:20:04.000 Feminism. 1.00

00:20:04.000 There were very necessary changes, and still a lot of changes needed. 1.00

00:20:08.000 But the majority of women were saying, well, how far do we go with this? 1.00

00:20:11.000 Then the extremists started doing silly things, and the majority said, oh, no, no, now we're losing more than we're gaining.

00:20:17.000 Well, the same things happened with the environmental.

00:20:20.000 It got hijacked by the extremists in Greenpeace and Sierra Club and Kennedy and all of these other people.

00:20:28.000 And now they're reaching the point where they're just being completely illogical.

00:20:34.000 And so the majority of people are starting to say, well, hang on a minute.

00:20:37.000 Well, it's not illogical if you want to kill the majority of the planet.

00:20:40.000 I mean, they've admitted in studies that if they put in these carbon cuts, it would kill half the third world.

00:20:46.000 Oh, sure.

00:20:47.000 And we saw that with the biofuels.

00:20:49.000 I mean, the switch to the biofuels.

00:20:51.000 And what did that do to food supply around the world and people dying?

00:20:55.000 So it's crazy like a fox.

00:20:59.000 And by the way, I've written articles about this, Alex, that there is a very deep-seated anti-humanity underlying the environmental movement.

00:21:11.000 If we could just get rid of all the people on the planet, it would be a great place to live.

00:21:14.000 Well, you know what, Dr. Ball, stay there.

00:21:16.000 Long segment coming up.

00:21:17.000 This was a short segment.

00:21:18.000 I want you to go over that.

00:21:20.000 How do you think we beat them?

00:21:21.000 What do we do about this gargantuan climate bill that creates these commissars that are over all areas of the economy, over 30 agencies who just do whatever regulations they want? 1.00

00:21:32.000 Look, if humans are so bad, Suzuki, you little twit, you control freak, you fake intellectual, kill yourself. 1.00

00:21:39.000 Stop saying kill African babies, punk. 1.00

00:21:41.000 Man, you make me sick. 1.00

00:21:42.000 Maury Strong? 1.00

00:21:43.000 Hey, go jump off a cliff, you little effeminate twerp. 1.00

00:21:47.000 Stay with us, Dr. Bohm. 1.00

00:21:47.000 Be right back. 1.00

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00:25:48.000 Sir, you've read their own writings.

00:25:49.000 You know what they're doing.

00:25:51.000 They brag about it, then they tell the public it's about humanity and our children and jobs, jobs, jobs.

00:25:56.000 That was what they said over and over again as they passed the climate takeover bill.

00:26:01.000 It's not just about eugenics, though.

00:26:02.000 It's like a total Soviet society where everything's micromanaged. 0.56

00:26:05.000 And we have these big global corporations who love it because they're monopoly capitalists.

00:26:09.000 They know the biggest profits are made out of controlled partnerships with government.

00:26:14.000 And you say people are waking up, and they are waking up.

00:26:17.000 So they go from global warming to climate change to deteriorating atmosphere to carbon poison.

00:26:23.000 I've seen dozens of video games, dozens, free on the Nickelodeon website and other places for kids where carbon monsters try to kill kids and the kids practice killing the carbon monsters.

00:26:34.000 They teach it's an absolute fact, it's toxic waste, it will kill you.

00:26:38.000 You can tell the general public the scientific name of water.

00:26:42.000 And they will panic, most of them, and say, ban it!

00:26:46.000 If you go out and talk to a crowd of people, that happens.

00:26:49.000 So, you've got the floor.

00:26:51.000 Break down who these people are, how we counter them, where you see this fight going, what you think of the world right now, all across Europe and the United States and Canada, falling to the climate cops, falling to the new green tyranny, the home inspections, the shutting down of the factories, the energy taxes.

00:27:09.000 What in the world are we going to do?

00:27:13.000 The power of the media, the spin doctors, has reached global proportions and one of the things that's really problematic about it is the great bastion of freedom is the U.S.

00:27:28.000 and the freedom for the individual in the U.S.

00:27:31.000 And it's being destroyed, and what's ironic about it is that China is just ignoring all of what they're doing. 0.70

00:27:39.000 China's not going to sign any climate bill.

00:27:42.000 In fact, China are not only holding your debt now, but they're also saying, oh well, you're part of Kyoto, you've got to pay us for the damage that you've done.

00:27:52.000 So the country that's holding most of your debt is telling you you've got to pay them as well.

00:27:57.000 So it's pretty disturbing on a global scale.

00:28:02.000 And I tell people, you hear a lot of anti-Americanism, especially up here in Canada.

00:28:07.000 And I say, look, if you think of the U.S.

00:28:11.000 as a problem, as a superpower, you ain't seen nothing yet.

00:28:14.000 China will be a lot worse. 1.00

00:28:15.000 Because China looks after China, period. 0.63

00:28:19.000 And so, this is what's happening on a larger scale.

00:28:25.000 It's also, of course, why Morris Strong has moved there.

00:28:27.000 He's got it on the ground floor in what's going on in China.

00:28:31.000 And so, that's part of the difficulty.

00:28:35.000 But what they needed was a vehicle.

00:28:38.000 They needed a vehicle to control the public.

00:28:41.000 They needed a vehicle that the public, they knew that most of the public wouldn't understand.

00:28:45.000 And of course the environment became the big issue as we've discussed.

00:28:50.000 An important issue.

00:28:51.000 Everybody realized you've got to keep your own home clean.

00:28:55.000 And so people bought into it.

00:28:57.000 But they didn't realize that it was a Trojan horse that these people were using to infiltrate.

00:29:06.000 And of course, then within that, the more strong focus on CO2 and controlling of the energy, because you see, I mentioned about the engine.

00:29:15.000 You can shut the engine down by squeezing the fuel line.

00:29:19.000 You can also stop the engine by plugging the exhaust.

00:29:21.000 And of course, that's what they're doing with pointing the finger at CO2.

00:29:25.000 But one of the other problems is that the science Uh, first what we need to focus is on the CO2, say, okay, you brought us down to that, let's look at what the arguments are, the scientific arguments.

00:29:39.000 Now the hypothesis, and scientists work by hypothesis, they say, well, if, if, if, this could happen.

00:29:46.000 Those ifs are assumptions.

00:29:48.000 So, for example, Einstein's theory of relativity assumes that nothing can go faster than the speed of light.

00:29:54.000 Well, if you find something going faster than the speed of light, then the formula equals mc squared essentially becomes redundant, because it's only as valid as the assumption on which it's built.

00:30:04.000 The fundamental assumption in the IPCC hypothesis, which of course Strong was the architect of, was that human CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

00:30:18.000 That is, it traps heat, it's going to increase in amount because humans are producing more of it, and that as CO2 goes up, the temperature will rise.

00:30:29.000 Those were the assumptions.

00:30:30.000 Well, first of all, the most fundamental one that With CO2 increase, the temperature will rise.

00:30:39.000 There's no evidence anywhere in any record of any duration for any time period in the history of the Earth in which CO2 increase precedes temperature change.

00:30:50.000 In every record, it's exactly the opposite.

00:30:53.000 And the most famous one, Alex, is the ice core record, which they came out with.

00:30:57.000 They said, oh, look, there it is, the temperature going up and down over a 400,000 year record, and there's the CO2 going up and down.

00:31:04.000 And the scientists, the British and the French scientists, Jouzel at the time, I remember when this came out in the 80s, said, look, don't rush to judgment on this.

00:31:13.000 But of course they rushed to judgment.

00:31:14.000 Here it is.

00:31:15.000 There's the proof.

00:31:16.000 We now know that temperature change precedes CO2.

00:31:21.000 So CO2 is not driving temperature at all, let alone the human portion of it.

00:31:26.000 For those that don't know, Doctor, let's be specific.

00:31:29.000 Major universities, hundreds of firms, it's all on record.

00:31:33.000 They go out and test the ice core samples going back hundreds of thousands of years, and it all fits what we saw in the start of the Bronze Age 9,000 years ago.

00:31:42.000 It all shows that warming period 1,500 years ago in Europe when there was the big vineyards everywhere that aren't there now in Northern Europe and in England.

00:31:52.000 That the CO2 follows after a temperature increases, then there's obviously more life, things melt, more CO2 gets released because of water vapor, a lot of different reasons.

00:32:05.000 You're the climatologist, you can explain it.

00:32:08.000 But what Al Gore did is, he moved it, he cheated, and because they're very close on the graph, but it comes after, he moved it to coincide.

00:32:16.000 Go ahead.

00:32:17.000 Exactly, and by the way, one of the things that was not very widely publicized was that a week before he got his Nobel Prize, and I thought the Oscar was appropriate because it was from the land of make-believe, but the Nobel Prize is a different issue, but the week before he got it, a parent in England went and took the movie to court.

00:32:40.000 And said, look, my son's been forced to watch this four times.

00:32:42.000 There are major scientific errors in it.

00:32:45.000 And I want, if they're going to show it, I want a warning, a government warning against what's wrong with this movie.

00:32:50.000 The judge ruled that the movie was propaganda.

00:32:54.000 Actually, he didn't use that term specifically, but he said it's politically biased, and he said there are nine major errors, and the one you just mentioned is one of them, the shifting of the curves to coincide.

00:33:06.000 Now, that was a week before he got the Nobel Prize.

00:33:08.000 Now, you could say, okay, well, the Nobel Committee couldn't have time at that time, I don't think ever in history has a Nobel Prize been given to somebody whose work has been found criminally wrong, you know, before he got it.

00:33:19.000 committee didn't do their homework they'd already decided that they were going to give it to him and uh...

00:33:24.000 not with the end of it so joey i don't think ever in history is a nobel prize being given to somebody whose work has been found criminally wrong and you know before he got it it's absolutely amazing well why don't they just give him a nobel prize for bidding the internet Or how about a Nobel Prize for Kitty Hawk?

00:33:44.000 Let's just say he did that too!

00:33:45.000 How about a Nobel Prize instead of Madame Curie for inventing x-rays? 1.00

00:33:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:55.000 One of the things that we're seeing here, and some people have referred to this, is the big lie.

00:34:00.000 The bigger the lie you tell, the more people will believe it.

00:34:03.000 And of course, one of the things that's amazing, and you mentioned this at the top of the program, that he's challenging other people saying they're not qualified, and they flatter others, and blah, blah, blah.

00:34:14.000 But nobody ever says, well, what qualifications have you got?

00:34:19.000 And this is the amazing thing about how he's been able to survive and get away with what he has, but it's this whole thing about propaganda, and because it's purely propaganda.

00:34:33.000 And so what we've got to keep focusing on, and this is where you asked about how we deal with this, is start to look at, okay, what is CO2?

00:34:43.000 And by the way, one of the things, Alex, that we talked about extremism, The first thing that's happening is that the politicians generally worldwide, but not the U.S., are realizing that the climate or cap and trade and anything to do with that is going to be harmful to the economy.

00:35:00.000 So they're backing off on it that way.

00:35:03.000 The other thing is that I know from all the politicians I've talked to around the globe, and I had a chance to listen to Vaclav Klaus in New York.

00:35:11.000 That's the head of the EU, for those that don't know.

00:35:15.000 Yeah, he said the head of the EU and president of Czechoslovakia.

00:35:17.000 But one of the things that these politicians, they've been bullied into silence.

00:35:22.000 Because when you talk to them off the record, they say, yeah, look, we know what you're saying.

00:35:27.000 We understand that.

00:35:28.000 But it's absolute political suicide to go out there and suggest because you're immediately, oh, he doesn't care about the planet.

00:35:35.000 He doesn't care about the children, about the future.

00:35:37.000 And they're bullied into silence.

00:35:39.000 And when you look at Exxon, for example, here's a corporation that's admittedly spent $16 million on climate research.

00:35:46.000 Well, I wouldn't invest in an oil company, an energy company, that wasn't looking at what the climate was going to do and what the demand for their product was going to be.

00:35:55.000 They've said they're not going to put any more money into it.

00:35:58.000 I mean, it's just ludicrous.

00:35:59.000 But they're bullied by these people into silence.

00:36:02.000 Well, yeah, that was in the New York Times that David Rockefeller, Rex Tillerson, said it was all a fraud, because it is.

00:36:08.000 And Rockefeller showed up at the board meeting and said, I'm going to fire all of you.

00:36:11.000 I still own this company.

00:36:12.000 You're going to go out and say, not only is it real, but you want a global carbon tax.

00:36:17.000 That was in the news.

00:36:18.000 And Rex Tillerson, the next week, went on TV and said, I was wrong.

00:36:22.000 Man, make global warming real.

00:36:23.000 And he said, quote, we need a global tax.

00:36:27.000 Yeah.

00:36:28.000 Oh yeah, and of course the other thing is that the government using the taxpayers' money is, as you inferred or directly mentioned, is buying off corporations.

00:36:39.000 I mean, all this idea about green jobs.

00:36:43.000 And one of the things that frustrates me about this, Alex, isn't just that the US, the policies for cap and trade and so on, is not scientifically based.

00:36:55.000 I would be more willing to be less cynical and skeptical about it if the ideas and proposals were new.

00:37:03.000 That they were genuinely new, innovative ways.

00:37:07.000 But they're not.

00:37:08.000 These ideas that are in the cap and trade and what the EPA are doing have been tried by other countries and have been a disaster.

00:37:16.000 Let me stop you right there and then we'll go over this, but you mentioned something earlier, about ten minutes ago, and for the decade plus I've been aware of this takeover plan from their own documents, and what Maury Strong had said, and Green Cross and Green Shield, and Mikhail Gorbachev and David Rockefeller and the UN openly saying, reduce our numbers down to 500 million.

00:37:38.000 Ever since they started pushing that, I knew that China, India, Mexico, and a hundred And 60 other third world and developing countries wouldn't have to make the cuts.

00:37:49.000 It was really a way to de-industrialize.

00:37:52.000 The West.

00:37:53.000 But now what you just said is true.

00:37:55.000 Now they're saying, oh, okay, we're going to do retroactive carbon taxing and we've got to pay three billion a year to China, a billion a year to Mexico.

00:38:05.000 Calderon's on TV saying it, and Obama's saying, yes, we're going to take taxpayer money and give it to you, and then you're going to pay it to the IMF and World Bank, mainly the IMF is the new bank of the world as your carbon credit.

00:38:19.000 More than just eugenics, that's the overall system, it's a money laundering operation for more international aid, where instead of the money going to the IMF and World Bank, they loan it to dictators or corrupt systems who then keep the money and then hand the resources over to the bankers.

00:38:34.000 This is countries they've already bought off in the third world will now just take the money, keep part of it, and pay the rest right back to David Rockefeller. 0.54

00:38:42.000 I mean, this is just I mean, this is what con artists would come up with if they were just told, think of the most ridiculous out in the open con.

00:38:53.000 So even if you believe carbon dioxide is a deadly poison that kills plants, kills animals, it's like nerve gas, the point is that we're all one planet.

00:39:02.000 If China and India don't make cuts, and all our jobs move there, there will be more of this VX nerve gas known as carbon dioxide, almost as deadly as dihydrogen monoxide, also water, that deadly nerve gas, more nerve gas released.

00:39:17.000 Can you explain that to us?

00:39:19.000 Well, yeah, I mean, one of the things about the Kyoto, and you have to go back again to Morris Strong, he grew up on a farm in southern Manitoba in Canada, and the family were socialist extremes.

00:39:34.000 almost to the point of communism.

00:39:36.000 And just to give you an idea, Winnipeg, the only city in North America that had a democratically elected communist on the city council, but Maurice Strong's family... He admits it, he's a hardcore piece of filth, go ahead. 0.96

00:39:50.000 One of the things, of course, that's underlying that is a redistribution of wealth.

00:39:55.000 And we talked about the IPCC, but the Kyoto Accord that came out of, and by the way, this is another of his big operations, was the Rio Conference in 1992, which George Bush, the elder, refused to go to, George Herbert Bush refused to go to.

00:40:12.000 But the Kyoto Accord and the carbon credits Was a transfer of wealth.

00:40:18.000 It was a socializing of taking the wealth from those people that had worked hard and succeeded, and giving it to those that were not working hard, not succeeding.

00:40:29.000 So, this was part of this whole strategy, and of course, again, the vehicle was the CO2.

00:40:37.000 And by the way, the carbon credits is very interesting, because that idea originally, With the IPCC, they were trying to get the Kyoto's through.

00:40:51.000 The U.S., and as you recall this, 95 to nothing, the U.S.

00:40:54.000 Senate voted against it.

00:40:56.000 When Al Gore was the Vice President, it was 95 to nothing against.

00:41:01.000 When the inventor of the Internet was Vice President.

00:41:04.000 Well, he should have got on the Internet and veiled some more votes, but the Europeans, with Strong and Sir John Houghton, Who was the head of the UK Met Office and so on.

00:41:16.000 These people trying to get the Americans on board said, look, what can we do to make this attractive to you?

00:41:23.000 But the U.S.

00:41:24.000 came back and said, look, give us some credit for the carbon we're taking out of the atmosphere.

00:41:30.000 Because one of the things that you don't hear much about, Alex, is that, yeah, we produce about 7.5 gigatons of CO2 a year, but we remove 50% of that through agriculture and forestry.

00:41:45.000 I don't like that either.

00:41:46.000 I mean, I've talked to a lot of other climatologists and biologists that have done the studies on plants.

00:41:51.000 Isn't a carbon dioxide rich atmosphere better for overall life cycle, carbon cycle on the planet?

00:41:57.000 And aren't we at a very low point according to the research?

00:42:01.000 Oh yeah, we're at 385 parts per million, which is the lowest level in 600 million years.

00:42:07.000 And one of the things that's interesting that confirms this, sure would it so, and his son Craig have done an enormous amount of research on Putting plants into enriched CO2 atmospheres, and they found that almost all plants function better at between 1,000 and 1,200 parts per million.

00:42:25.000 In other words, three times what they currently are getting.

00:42:28.000 So you could legitimately argue that plants are malnourished.

00:42:32.000 But what's more important, Alex, is that if you look at the last 300 million years, the average level of CO2 in the atmosphere has been around 1,000 to 1,200 parts per million.

00:42:43.000 And some commercial operations, greenhouses, are taking advantage of that by pumping that level into their greenhouse and getting four times the yield on their plants.

00:42:52.000 But hold on doctor, it doesn't kill the plants, it's now a toxic nerve gas, the news says.

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00:46:23.000 You know, I've interviewed a lot of climatologists, a lot of scientists, but I've got to say, Dr. Ball is the most informed, most on target I've seen.

00:46:33.000 Just absolutely amazing.

00:46:34.000 Dr. Ball, are there any websites people should visit to read all your great writings and research?

00:46:39.000 Well, there's two that I contribute to on a regular basis.

00:46:42.000 One is CanadaFreePress.com.

00:46:44.000 That's all one word.

00:46:47.000 And if they go to... I just have an article in there on Monday.

00:46:52.000 My articles usually appear on Monday.

00:46:54.000 And they have a columnist archive that they can tap into, and there's about 35 articles on there.

00:47:00.000 Fantastic!

00:47:04.000 Yeah, the other site that I contribute to, and the group I helped set up that you mentioned in the promo, was friendsofscience.org.

00:47:13.000 Absolutely, friendsofscience.org.

00:47:15.000 Yeah, that one focuses on the science.

00:47:18.000 The Canada Free Press is a mix of the science and the political implications.

00:47:22.000 Well, I mean, we've proven the scientific case, because it's, I mean, really elementary, or at least it seems as a layman compared to a lot of other scientific questions.

00:47:31.000 We know plants breathe carbon dioxide, and we know, during the break you were mentioning world food supply.

00:47:37.000 Maury Strong also says, and Kissinger says, shut down world food supply, and that's also part of what this whole greenhouse gas tax is about.

00:47:46.000 There's no question about that, and as I mentioned earlier with the biofuels, you see how marginal we are.

00:47:53.000 And one of the things that everybody forgets is that, and I've got a quote that I made up a long time ago, there are no farms in the cities, but there's no cities without farms.

00:48:04.000 And if you ignore the agricultural base, that's the base of any economy.

00:48:09.000 Well, instead they're taking that over with the Animal Society from Australia to Canada to the U.S.

00:48:15.000 They are SWAT teaming Amish for selling milk, SWAT teaming egg sellers. 0.99

00:48:20.000 I mean, they're really squeezing, and these environmental green brigades are just showing, and I'm not bashing folks with ponytails and Birkenstocks, but now they've got sidearms and they're showing up on farms and ranches and going, look, and they're basically communist.

00:48:36.000 Well, it's, you know, organic is all very nice, and there's a niche market for that.

00:48:42.000 But if we went totally organic, you'd have to cut every forest in the world down to grow the amount of food we're currently producing.

00:48:49.000 And I'm trying to think of the guy, Dennis Avery.

00:48:54.000 Wonderful book called Saving the Planet with Plastics and Pesticides.

00:48:58.000 And he's saying, you know, if they really wanted to save these ecologies and environments they're talking about, we should increase the yields on the land we're currently farming.

00:49:06.000 And we could do that very easily.

00:49:08.000 I mean, we look at the increase of corn yields over the last little while.

00:49:12.000 Now, there are some side effects, no question, but we can monitor those and take care of those.

00:49:17.000 But to just shut it all down is certainly not a solution at all, but that gives you ultimate control, I guess.

00:49:24.000 Well, the problem is the big agribusinesses own their areas and they don't leave the land fallow, but you drive around the United States and the world, there's farm areas not being used everywhere.

00:49:35.000 Well, and that was one of the problems I had with George W. Bush's policies, agricultural policies, where people were buying farms simply to get the government subsidies.

00:49:47.000 It was a better investment than going into the stock market.

00:49:51.000 And that was the fallow land where they were being paid not to grow them and it's just insanity.

00:49:56.000 And of course they don't want stockpiling of food at all because they lose control that way.

00:50:05.000 But I think the agricultural base is a very important part of this and that's why I think we talk about Paying people to sequester CO2.

00:50:16.000 Well, the farmers are already doing it.

00:50:18.000 Why aren't they getting a subsidy for the 50% of CO2 they're taking out of the atmosphere?

00:50:23.000 Well, there's some environmental global warming wackos that think trees are producing CO2 and so they're bad.

00:50:30.000 Do five more minutes with us, Doc, because I want you to finish your thoughts and where you see this going, you seem to think they're losing steam.

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00:52:22.000 Very, very exciting.

00:52:24.000 We're going to have Dr. Ball in studio coming up in a few weeks here with us.

00:52:28.000 I want to have him down here to discuss some things with us and also for a eugenics film, I'm making a population control film after the current one I'm making. 0.77

00:52:39.000 So, definitely very, very important, very, very exciting.

00:52:42.000 Okay, in closing, I've been throwing in my two cents quite a bit here.

00:52:46.000 It seems that they're beginning to stall out.

00:52:48.000 I mean, right as they get victories, right as they pass it in the House and it's going to the Senate, and they may be able to even do that, they're going to have trouble implementing this because when Nancy Pelosi and others lie and say it's about jobs, Even their own white papers admit this is meant to shut down jobs.

00:53:05.000 So where do you see their movement going?

00:53:08.000 Well, I think there's a couple of things.

00:53:09.000 One I mentioned was that the economy has refocused a lot of the politicians, and of course they're getting word from their constituents.

00:53:18.000 And by the way, one thing I rely on, Alex, is there's a huge well of common sense in the ordinary people.

00:53:24.000 They don't.

00:53:26.000 Popeye said it all when he said, I don't know how she does it, but she does it.

00:53:29.000 So there's that underlying skepticism amongst the people.

00:53:34.000 And one of the things that I've noticed is with the cooling that's been going on since 2000, Initially, they said, oh, well, it's just a one-year anomaly.

00:53:45.000 Now they're saying, well, yeah, it's slight cooling, but it's just going to go back to warming again.

00:53:50.000 And then when they were pushed on it, they said, well, no, but this cooling's due to warming.

00:53:55.000 That was so illogical that even people that don't understand the science were saying, hang on a minute, hold on a minute here.

00:54:02.000 And, of course, the fact that the cooling trend will continue We'll see it again this winter.

00:54:09.000 We'll see it with the harvest problems across the U.S.

00:54:13.000 and the world that's going on right now.

00:54:15.000 Canada, we're very, very late with our planting, and seeding's down about 25%.

00:54:19.000 And that's because of that big yellow thing in the sky.

00:54:22.000 They say it has nothing to do with heat.

00:54:24.000 Absolutely.

00:54:24.000 And by the way, that's another part of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

00:54:28.000 They don't consider the sun as a factor because humans don't have control of it.

00:54:35.000 And so these sorts of things are making the people start to realize, even though they don't understand, that there's a lot of But I mean, I see them on the news saying the sun has nothing to do with it. 0.98

00:54:52.000 That is so asinine on its face.

00:54:55.000 I mean, isn't the sun the main driver of temperature? 0.97

00:54:58.000 Totally.

00:54:58.000 You pick up any meteorology or climate textbook, the very first thing they tell you is the source of energy for the atmosphere is the sun.

00:55:06.000 And then these people proceed to ignore it.

00:55:08.000 The analogy I've used, Alex, is like saying my car's not running very well, but I'm not going to look at the engine, which is the sun, and I'm not going to look at the transmission, which is water vapor, the most important greenhouse gas, and I'm going to ignore the differential.

00:55:20.000 I'm going to look at one nut on the right rear wheel, which is CO2, but oh, by the way, I'm only going to look at one thread within that nut, which is the human portion of CO2, and that's how I'm going to resolve the problems with my car.

00:55:31.000 It's that.

00:55:33.000 Incredibly wrong in scientific terms.

00:55:36.000 By the way, just one quick comment, Alex.

00:55:38.000 A lot of people have forgotten that they had a World Conference on Population in 1994, and guess who was the organizer and keynote speaker?

00:55:48.000 It was our friend He's been at that game with the population thing for a long time, too.

00:55:57.000 And of course, a lot of it grows out of, as we talked off the air, about the Club of Rome, limits to growth, and Paul Ehrlich and all of his wrong predictions.

00:56:08.000 He's still out there making them.

00:56:09.000 Well, Dr. Ball, it won't hurt my feelings.

00:56:12.000 I know you're a very busy man.

00:56:13.000 You're also coming to town in about a week and a half, two weeks.

00:56:18.000 But if you want to go ahead and get into him now, or if you need to leave, we can do it when you're in studio.

00:56:23.000 Well, no, it doesn't matter.

00:56:25.000 Do it either way.

00:56:25.000 It doesn't matter.

00:56:26.000 Let's do one more segment, get into that, because you haven't gotten into their actual numbers and their statements on population control.

00:56:33.000 Right.

00:56:33.000 And we'll do one more segment with you, then I'm going to take calls, folks, and cover a bunch of other news that we haven't gotten into.

00:56:39.000 And I want to read the article that Paul Watson did, the Red Alert article.

00:56:43.000 Also, that Buchanan saying climate bill is a transfer of wealth to world government.

00:56:48.000 They're going all over YouTube removing that video.

00:56:51.000 I've never seen them remove a video so fast.

00:56:54.000 They are really scared of that and people finding out this is a global tax.

00:56:58.000 So we'll talk about that as well.

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01:00:01.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:00:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:14.000 You know, I had the Wall Street Journal here yesterday.

01:00:17.000 No doubt it's going to be a critical piece.

01:00:19.000 She was asking the guys back there during the breaks, does Alex ever scream at you?

01:00:23.000 And they're like, no, not really.

01:00:25.000 Are you sure?

01:00:26.000 Nothing?

01:00:27.000 Well, this is talk radio, but guys, am I not really nice to you guys compared to other talk radio people?

01:00:34.000 No, but I'm not making you say that.

01:00:36.000 You were just telling me about how, just Sunday, you were telling me how mean somebody's been to you on another show.

01:00:41.000 Don't say when.

01:00:43.000 Were you not telling me that, Jaren?

01:00:45.000 I mean, describe what regular talk show hosts are like to people.

01:00:50.000 Tell the truth.

01:00:51.000 Worst of the worst.

01:00:52.000 No, no, no.

01:00:52.000 I can barely hear you.

01:00:53.000 You've got to turn your audio up.

01:00:54.000 It's always heated.

01:00:56.000 It's always heated up in here.

01:00:57.000 Live radio is always tough, but it's, yeah, it's...

01:01:00.000 Okay, I want the truth from you.

01:01:02.000 Am I not a sweetheart compared to other hosts?

01:01:04.000 You're an angel.

01:01:05.000 I've seen other hosts.

01:01:07.000 I've seen them throw stuff, throw fits, I don't know why.

01:01:09.000 That's because they get nervous being on air.

01:01:11.000 My problem is I forget I'm on air and almost fall asleep half the time.

01:01:14.000 I can get up before a crowd of 5,000 people and literally start falling asleep.

01:01:18.000 I've done this so long and so much.

01:01:19.000 I didn't get butterflies 13, 14 years ago when I'd get in front of crowds.

01:01:23.000 And now it's not butterflies, it's, oh okay, I'm just so used to it, but anyways.

01:01:31.000 Now I've been demonized by the BBC, and we'll cover this at the bottom of the hour.

01:01:35.000 This just came out.

01:01:36.000 Folks, I'm getting hit by national media every day.

01:01:39.000 I said I was going to have Michelle Bachmann, the U.S. 0.99

01:01:43.000 Congresswoman on, because Ted Anderson knows one of her campaign people, and was just going to call and say, hey, you want Bachmann on?

01:01:50.000 We know her.

01:01:51.000 And I said, yeah.

01:01:51.000 And he goes, well, you'll probably get her on next week.

01:01:54.000 Well then that became Gawker, Minnesota Newspapers, Will She Go on Jones' Show, Attacking Me, and then they called his campaign manager and he said, well I didn't know about that. 0.98

01:02:04.000 Then it's like, Alex is a liar.

01:02:06.000 I mean, ladies and gentlemen, we are being micromanaged and tracked, and everything we do being gone over with a white glove. 0.95

01:02:14.000 It is really getting insane.

01:02:16.000 By the way, Cynthia McKinney has been kidnapped by Israeli troops.

01:02:20.000 Mike Rivera is the last person I know to interview her.

01:02:23.000 We're going to get him on here in about 20 minutes to give us a quick update on what's happening with that.

01:02:27.000 Going back to Dr. Tim Bald, climatologist.

01:02:34.000 Doc, you were going to get into the overall population reduction agenda itself, that global warming is just the governmental, economic, energy straitjacket to, as you said, put a kink in the hose for the fuel for civilization.

01:02:47.000 They get us under civilization, they get us urbanized, what they said by design, to control us and domesticate us, then they start incrementally, like we're a HAL 9000, turning off the civilization.

01:02:59.000 They're really just a bunch of control freaks.

01:03:00.000 Break it down for us.

01:03:03.000 Just a quick comment on your question to your staff there.

01:03:05.000 I think that what I get from you is that we can disagree, but we don't have to be disagreeable.

01:03:11.000 But anyway, beyond that, the whole idea about overpopulation, of course, starts with Malthus back in the 18th century and arguments that, oh, the population's outgrowing the food supply and so on.

01:03:25.000 One of the things that makes the U.S.

01:03:28.000 so successful and so powerful is that it has been more successful in producing food to feed its people than any other nation on the planet.

01:03:37.000 In fact, not only growing enough for itself, but exporting to the world.

01:03:42.000 And from that surplus food, of course, comes surplus time, and you set up the civilization.

01:03:47.000 What happens over time is that the population shift And right now you've got in the U.S.

01:03:55.000 2% of the population that are officially listed as farmers, about 18%, 20% rural population, but people move into the cities and they become disconnected from the food supply.

01:04:07.000 And once, of course, you're dependent upon what's in the supermarket, you're effectively lost control.

01:04:17.000 Once you can't feed yourself, And, of course, we're seeing the same thing going on in China.

01:04:22.000 I mean, the massive thing that's occurred in China is the shift of the population from the rural areas.

01:04:28.000 They've gone from about 80 percent to rural, down to less than 50 percent in about 10 years.

01:04:35.000 And the demand for homes and so on is driving a lot of that economy.

01:04:39.000 And so the population idea really got to a peak.

01:04:45.000 Back in the 70s.

01:04:46.000 Now, one of the things that drove it, and this is when I started my climate career, was that global cooling was the consensus then.

01:04:53.000 And that's why I'm not a consensus person, because they're always, you know, in the CIA, we're doing reports on, oh, the world's overpopulated, and we're not going to be able to feed ourselves with this global cooling.

01:05:04.000 And out of that, of course, the Club of Rome, and there was a meeting in Rome in 1976 about the world's going to starve to death by the year 2000.

01:05:14.000 And the simplistic computer models, which are at the basis of all of these problems, were just saying, oh, well, here's the trend, and it's going to continue, and the world simply can't survive past it.

01:05:27.000 All of those predictions are wrong, but somehow they still got the floor.

01:05:31.000 And people like Paul Ehrlich, who was the one that was pushing the overpopulation idea, was at the heart of that.

01:05:38.000 And then, of course, Gore organizing that conference in Cairo, Egypt.

01:05:45.000 What better place than to say, oh, look, there's poverty due to overpopulation right outside the window.

01:05:51.000 And that idea of the world's overpopulated.

01:05:54.000 Of course, the question you've got to ask is, Which populations have we got too many of? 0.85

01:05:59.000 Which ones are we going to eliminate?

01:06:01.000 How are we going to thin the herd?

01:06:03.000 I mean, it's just frightening implications to all of this focus upon world overpopulation.

01:06:09.000 That's right, that's right.

01:06:09.000 It's seen as common knowledge by any of the intelligentsia to go, the people bomb.

01:06:14.000 We've got to cull the population.

01:06:16.000 Well then ask, who are we going to cull?

01:06:18.000 Who are we going to kill?

01:06:19.000 And then you look at the point you just made, that we're actually concentrated populations and that once a nation becomes industrialized they actually begin to have negative population growth like europe of 1.3 japan with 1.3 italy with even lower 1.2 europe is dying russia is dying the united states is dying if it wasn't for the massive immigrant replacement influx and so and the u.n admits that if they just industrialized the third world 0.62

01:06:47.000 uh... that uh... it would actually lift them up and they wouldn't have so many children but you read the world uh...

01:06:55.000 population report put out by the u.n you read the royal commission on population put out by the british government they say that population and industrialization is the threat and so they say we're not going to give them industrialization we're going to let their population swell to keep them down and then we're going to use birth control and sterilization and war and famine to then cull that mass.

01:07:18.000 So use the people bomb as a weapon to keep the third world down, then kind of exterminate them with war, famine, and sterilization. 1.00

01:07:27.000 So the eugenicists aren't even doing what they're saying.

01:07:30.000 It's not some high and mighty eugenicist's view that's bad enough.

01:07:35.000 But with some rationale, this is just a cover story for kind of low-level thugs to carry out the eugenics.

01:07:43.000 The top guys are just playing a global game of risk to knock out all their enemies.

01:07:48.000 Exactly, and what you're talking about there is the demographic transition.

01:07:53.000 Anybody can google that phrase, demographic transition, and it's the well-documented Showing that as you become industrialized, the first of all, the death rate goes down and the birth, but then at this followed by the birth rate goes down and then the population starts to decline.

01:08:12.000 And of course, a lot of countries are offsetting this by paying people to have a third child.

01:08:18.000 I know Quebec up in Canada here, Italy's done it, but also a lot of countries, it's being masked by immigration.

01:08:26.000 And if you look at that in the U.S.

01:08:28.000 and the discussion about immigration, so it's masking the actual demographic transition that's going on.

01:08:34.000 Yeah, that's why Germany and France are full of North Africans and Arabs. 1.00

01:08:39.000 Oh yeah.

01:08:39.000 Because they, I mean, some German cities have half the population they did just 40 years ago.

01:08:44.000 Yep, yep.

01:08:45.000 Oh, there's no question, and as I said, at that conference in Rome in 1976, one of the arguments by a lot of the countries was, look, let us industrialize, and that will cause the population to decline.

01:09:00.000 And, of course, that was rejected completely.

01:09:03.000 But, yeah, the whole idea about, if you want to limit... By the way, just a very interesting thing, Alex, is that you can calculate this out yourself, but if you... The average family of about 2.7, 2.8 people, you could put them in 1,000-square-foot homes on 3,000-square-foot lots with roads and parks and

01:09:27.000 The normal facilities and the population under those conditions, which would be ideal in most of the world, all of the world's population could fit in the southern half of Alberta.

01:09:38.000 Now, would Albertans like that?

01:09:39.000 Probably not.

01:09:41.000 But it gives you an idea.

01:09:42.000 When you look at Canada, for example, here we are, the second largest country in the world, and we've got a population equal to California.

01:09:51.000 And so when you start talking about overpopulation, it's absolute nonsense.

01:09:56.000 And of course, the other thing that came out of that conference in Cairo, they were pointing the finger at Asia and Africa.

01:10:03.000 They're overpopulated.

01:10:05.000 The country with the highest population density in the world is the Netherlands.

01:10:09.000 But they've got one of the highest standards of living.

01:10:12.000 So when you start to look at the statistics and what was going on with all of this, the overpopulation thing, and it's a thing that people fear.

01:10:23.000 Exactly.

01:10:23.000 It's that it's not industrialized is why Calcutta is a cesspit.

01:10:28.000 It is because it's not industrialized that Mexico City is a hell pit.

01:10:32.000 We've got to industrialize them with the new clean industries, but the globalists, when you really read their papers, they're suppressing all that.

01:10:40.000 That's why it's so sickening they claim, oh, we want to make you adopt new clean systems.

01:10:44.000 They're actually vertically integrating things, cutting off the capital of the world in their own documents to suppress clean development, and they want dirty, sprawling third world because it's a ball and chain that keeps these people down.

01:10:59.000 Folks, you can just Google his name and read all of his Great writings.

01:11:03.000 I really appreciate Dr. Tim Ball, climatologist, joining us.

01:11:07.000 And I'm going to have my producer call you right now and book those flights for you to be in studio with us coming up in a couple weeks.

01:11:14.000 And I can't wait to shake your hand in person, doctor.

01:11:18.000 Thank God that more and more people Thank you, Alex.

01:11:20.000 like yourself, are out there speaking out and standing up.

01:11:23.000 And together, as Thomas Jefferson said, all that evil men and tyrants need to flourish is that good men and women do nothing.

01:11:28.000 And with good men like you out there taking action, I think we're starting to really turn the tide against these people.

01:11:34.000 That's why they really pressed and passed this climate takeover in the House.

01:11:39.000 But I think that's the beginning of the end for them.

01:11:41.000 Thank you so much, Dr. Ball.

01:11:42.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:11:43.000 Thanks for the opportunity.

01:11:44.000 Great talking to you.

01:11:44.000 Thank you.

01:11:45.000 We'll come back.

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01:16:31.000 His website then started having comments about how he might be the messiah or something.

01:16:37.000 This is a classic MI5, MI6 shake and bake.

01:16:42.000 Because they know that sounds crazy, they know that's their favorite way to try to discredit the information we're putting out, is to have something come out that's really credible, and then have the person involved with it say that they're the Messiah.

01:16:56.000 And this is the BBC, has a big TV program coming out on this, they've done two attacking me on 9-11.

01:17:02.000 But it doesn't change the fact that local news that day reported the police were chasing down Arabs all over the city and shooting them.

01:17:10.000 That these were the people that had taken part in the drill that day of a mock bombing of the very trains and bus that were attacked at the exact same place, exact same time.

01:17:19.000 Now that's BBC admitting that, live that day.

01:17:22.000 How strange it was a drill of the exact same trains and exact same bus being attacked at the exact same time.

01:17:28.000 Just like 9-11, exact same buildings, exact same place, exact same time.

01:17:31.000 And I go over all that evidence in Terror Storm, a history of government-sponsored terrorism.

01:17:38.000 and uh... there's no doubt this is a psy-op and uh... you know Mr. Hill used the pseudonym Wadib out of the Dune book which I guess means uh... kind of the prophet so they say that means he's a prophet then it wasn't on his side at first after he gets arrested it pops up saying he thinks he's Jesus or something basically

01:18:08.000 This is very, very bizarre.

01:18:10.000 But regardless, the film itself is devastating.

01:18:13.000 But he's in jail!

01:18:17.000 So... Unmasking the Mysterious 7-7 Conspiracy Theory.

01:18:22.000 It's kind of like that doctor with the anthrax.

01:18:25.000 First they said it was two other people.

01:18:27.000 Turned out they didn't did it.

01:18:28.000 The FBI said it wasn't weaponized.

01:18:31.000 The FBI said it was cheap, no big deal, made in a bathtub, probably in a bucket.

01:18:35.000 A bathtub in a bucket was the quote.

01:18:37.000 Turns out it's the most weaponized ever seen.

01:18:39.000 U.S.

01:18:39.000 government super strained, miniaturized, coated in bentonite.

01:18:43.000 Just the miniaturization process cost over $100 million in equipment.

01:18:47.000 Huge.

01:18:48.000 Plants.

01:18:50.000 Just one of the miniaturization tanks.

01:18:53.000 In fact, Google for folks on TV right now.

01:18:57.000 Anthrax production.

01:19:00.000 And it'll show the giant tanks they used to make it.

01:19:04.000 And we're talking about a facility close to the size of an aircraft carrier to make this stuff.

01:19:10.000 Giant complexes.

01:19:13.000 And they said, no, it was just made in a basement.

01:19:14.000 And then the White House was on Cipro, the anthrax-fighting antibiotic, on September 10th, three and a half weeks before, enemies of Bush and American media, who took photos of his daughters falling down drunk in Austin, and Democrats and other people got mailed the weaponized anthrax.

01:19:30.000 The White House is on the drug to fight it.

01:19:33.000 But then they grab the doctor, they commit him, and then he dies in a straitjacket taking prescription Tylenol, locked down.

01:19:44.000 But then the news says he committed suicide at his home, but then local news admits he was killed at the mental institution.

01:19:51.000 Why did the FBI grab him, take him?

01:19:53.000 He's drugged, he dies.

01:19:56.000 So, classic intelligence operation.

01:20:00.000 Classic.

01:20:01.000 I mean, that'd be like if the government came and grabbed me and took me to a mental institution and then I supposedly killed myself with drugs a day later and then they put on the news Alex Jones committed suicide and there was no mention that they grabbed me for no reason and put me in a mental institution.

01:20:15.000 Because the doctor they've now pinned it on believed it was the government and was doing his own investigation and had contacted the FBI and they said, look, this guy's too close to us, grab him, kill him, say he did it.

01:20:28.000 And now the DNA has come out and other things proving it wasn't him at the mailbox.

01:20:32.000 So, that's in the news.

01:20:33.000 We'll talk about that with Mike Rivero, briefly, coming up here, because he's also an expert on that.

01:20:37.000 Unmasking the Mysterious 7-7 Conspiracy Theory, BBC.

01:20:44.000 And they go over the unbelievable coincidence of the drills that morning, and Peter Powers, who won't talk to the media, he'll literally run and hide if he sees alternative media, ask him about it.

01:20:54.000 And then they say Dune Clips, John Hill.

01:21:04.000 He lived in Ireland where they arrested him and had him extradited to England for mailing people copies of the film.

01:21:11.000 He's really John Hill from Sheffield, that's where the Watsons are from.

01:21:15.000 His alias, Muad'Dib, is a fictional character in the science fiction film, Dunes.

01:21:20.000 They make that sound like he's insane because of an internet handle.

01:21:23.000 A film starring Sting and Kyle We're on the march.

01:21:29.000 The empire's on the run.

01:21:31.000 So they use that to act like he's crazy.

01:21:33.000 None of the film is about Dune.

01:21:35.000 He just has the Internet handle, Muad'Dib.

01:21:38.000 So they say because that's an Arabic term, that means he's a Al-Qaeda.

01:21:43.000 See?

01:21:45.000 So because of your Internet handle, you're now with Al-Qaeda, and then it gets into he thinks he's Jesus.

01:21:50.000 We're on the march.

01:21:51.000 The empire's on the run.

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01:24:59.000 I mean, this is so ridiculous that the BBC comes out and attacks all of us to talk about this is so ridiculous that the BBC comes out and attacks Comes out and attacks all of us to talk about 7-7. 0.74

01:25:17.000 They got a little snipe at me in here.

01:25:23.000 A document on Moabib's website reveals he believes he is the messiah and that George Lucas wrote Star Wars after being told telepathically to write it by the very force to which the films refer.

01:25:36.000 He's been arrested and facing extradition to the UK on a charge of preventing the courts of justice by sending DVDs of the 7-7 ripple effect to the judge and the jury foreman and linked to the trial and the attacks.

01:25:51.000 This hasn't stopped the film.

01:25:52.000 Alex Jones, who runs InternetSite and the U.S.

01:25:55.000 radio show devoted to conspiracy theories, claims the 7-7 ripple effect has been just exploding all over the website since Hill's arrest.

01:26:06.000 I said exploding all over the web.

01:26:09.000 You know, we don't run a conspiracy website.

01:26:12.000 Peter Powers of Visor Consultancy, former head of Scotland Yard Public Relations, said they ran a drill of the exact same trains and bus being attacked in the exact same way at the exact same time.

01:26:26.000 Why do they do that as a cover story in case any government operatives get caught?

01:26:31.000 By other government agencies who aren't part of the staged attack, the false flag, they can say, oh, it's just part of a drill.

01:26:38.000 They camouflage the funding for the terror attack through the drill.

01:26:42.000 And it goes on and on and on.

01:26:45.000 I mean, the White House right now, publicly, the last two White Houses has Wahhabist Sunni groups attacking the Iranian government on record.

01:26:57.000 And then Obama goes on TV and says it's a conspiracy theory that the CIA is involved in Iran with this color revolution, or that they have any terror groups operating when it's publicly admitted!

01:27:13.000 Mike Rivero popping in for 10-15 minutes from WhatReallyHappened.com.

01:27:17.000 I want to get you on a host of issues, but first off, what do you know about Cynthia McKinney? 0.92

01:27:22.000 I heard you saying you were going to have her on last week.

01:27:24.000 I didn't hear if she was there or not, but it's coming in here that Israel attacks Justice Boat, kidnaps human rights workers.

01:27:33.000 Israel attacks her boat.

01:27:35.000 This is coming out, being released by one of the aid organizations she's with.

01:27:42.000 Today, Israeli occupation forces attacked and bombarded Free Gaza movement boat, the Spirit of Humanity, abducting 21 human rights workers in 11 countries, including Nobel laureate Mahreed Marguerite and former U.S.

01:27:57.000 Congresswoman Cindy McKinney, the passengers and crew are being forcibly dragged towards Israel.

01:28:03.000 This is an outrageous violation of international law against us.

01:28:07.000 Our boat was on Israeli waters and we were on a human rights mission to Gaza.

01:28:14.000 Why does Israel keep doing this? 0.99

01:28:15.000 This is bad PR to ram the boat a few weeks ago and almost sink it, and then now to do this, and they're in international waters.

01:28:24.000 I'm surprised they don't just pull a USS Liberty and torpedo it and then say the Easter Bunny did it.

01:28:30.000 Yeah, it is a serious situation here.

01:28:32.000 They were in international waters.

01:28:35.000 They're actually in a port in Israel now.

01:28:37.000 The ship has basically been hijacked by the Israeli Navy and the people basically taken into custody, including six journalists and Cynthia McKinney and the aid workers.

01:28:47.000 What makes this extremely serious is that, as you say, the initial contact between the Israeli Navy and the aid boat took place in international water.

01:28:56.000 And the Israeli Navy was actively jamming their navigation systems, their GPS, their radar.

01:29:02.000 It was very difficult to get any messages out because of all the jamming.

01:29:05.000 They were reduced to trying to find where they were with a sextant and a compass.

01:29:09.000 And it was just a very, very difficult situation.

01:29:12.000 It was in the middle of the night when this happened.

01:29:16.000 And of course, the big situation here is the corporate media, which made such a big stink about the arrest of the staffers at the British Embassy in Tehran, and they were claiming it was a new hostage crisis.

01:29:27.000 They're staying silent about this.

01:29:29.000 The same media that was screaming about the Somali pirates hijacking ships in Somali territorial waters, this hijacking in international waters involving a humanitarian aid ship, so far is not being mentioned at all on the American corporate media that I have found yet.

01:29:43.000 In fact, it's really pretty much confined to the alternative media.

01:29:47.000 Your radio show and our websites are the only ones actively working to get this story out.

01:29:53.000 Well, how do we know they were in international waters?

01:29:56.000 I mean, I believe it.

01:29:57.000 Israel's extremely bold.

01:29:59.000 But, A, how do we confirm this?

01:30:01.000 And then, B, I guess that's why the mainstream media should be reporting on this.

01:30:05.000 Embassy should be making a big deal out of this.

01:30:05.000 The U.S.

01:30:07.000 I mean, even if Israelis are, quote, the ally of the United States, this would be an incident if the British government Came out in international waters and rammed it, almost sunk a ship, and then the next time it came by, went and grabbed it and is towing it in to, I guess, disappear.

01:30:23.000 I mean, what comes next if our media won't talk about it? 0.87

01:30:26.000 Will they line Cynthia McKinney and the Nobel Laureate up and shoot them in the back of the head? 1.00

01:30:30.000 I mean, that's what happened with the USS Liberty.

01:30:33.000 Well, the situation here is definitely, it's a tremendous diplomatic crisis here, and the U.S.

01:30:38.000 can basically stand back and try and pretend it's no big deal, but the reality is that this boat was carrying the very sort of materials that Barack Obama had just requested Israel start to allow into Gaza.

01:30:51.000 Mostly bags of cement.

01:30:52.000 Things like that.

01:30:53.000 Construction materials.

01:30:54.000 And so what Israel has basically done is thumb its nose at Barack Obama pretty much on the same day the Congress just put through some new loan guarantees for Israel to go on building settlements in the illegal occupied territories of Palestine.

01:31:08.000 And so it is amazing.

01:31:09.000 Israel is basically uh... on top of simply this act of piracy on the high seas in this violation of international law israel is literally almost seems like daring the united states trying to do something or at least trying to show that the u.s.

01:31:24.000 can't do anything that the u.s.

01:31:25.000 is going to be forced to go on spending money in israel and israel is just going to do what it wants whether it's building more settlements or seizing ships with former congresswoman on them uh... israel is completely out of control here and they're basically I mean, the move to make would be just let her bring the medicine and cement in, and then it wouldn't be a big PR coup for Cynthia McKinney and the Free Gaza groups.

01:31:49.000 I mean, I guess Israel just does not care.

01:31:53.000 Yeah, Israel doesn't care. 0.82

01:31:55.000 They're convinced that if they spend enough money and if they control enough media, that their world image can be repaired.

01:32:01.000 I mean, after the disaster of Operation Cast Lead, they're spending millions of dollars to run ads.

01:32:07.000 Believe it or not, they're even running ads on my radio show here on GCN.

01:32:11.000 And it's astounding, the arrogance that's on display here.

01:32:14.000 Because you're right, the world is seeing Israel is literally trying to enforce mass starvation on the people of Gaza.

01:32:21.000 Hold on just a minute.

01:32:22.000 Hold on just a minute, Mike.

01:32:24.000 Who's running ads on your show?

01:32:26.000 Believe it or not, the Israeli Tourism Authority is running ads on my show.

01:32:31.000 Oh, I know what that is.

01:32:32.000 That's USA Radio Network News.

01:32:39.000 They're not running ads on Genesis.

01:32:40.000 That's news that stations request, and about the only news out there is Fox, ABC, and USA Radio News.

01:32:49.000 I've heard those ads.

01:32:51.000 Man, that is just incredible, Mike.

01:32:55.000 Well, I mean, it's just a disaster.

01:32:57.000 And do we know what's going to happen to Cynthia McKinney? 0.50

01:33:00.000 Or are they going to waterboard her or let her go? 0.99

01:33:03.000 Or will the media even care?

01:33:06.000 Well, the media obviously is not caring.

01:33:08.000 They're still all caught up with Michael Jackson, and I've been around the TV channels this morning searching for any indication that this is even showing up on the radar of the corporate media, and so far I haven't found it.

01:33:20.000 It's all distraction out there in the corporate media.

01:33:24.000 As far as what is going to happen, Haaretz has actually confirmed That the Israeli Navy did seize the ship, so it's no longer just a case of rumor and it's all just the free Gaza people making spurious claims.

01:33:35.000 Haaretz has confirmed that this has in fact happened.

01:33:38.000 The ship is in port.

01:33:40.000 The crew and passengers are in custody right now.

01:33:42.000 What happens next is Israel's going to make a big stink about violations of their national sovereignty, forgetting of course that Gaza is occupied territory and technically, you know, Israel doesn't have a say what goes on in Gazans waters.

01:33:57.000 Of course we know that's definitely not what's going on.

01:34:00.000 Israeli forces routinely shoot up Palestinian fishing boats.

01:34:05.000 Because Israel wants to harvest those waters. 0.77

01:34:07.000 And again, this is all about forced starvation.

01:34:10.000 The Israelis are literally trying to starve the Gazans into giving up and leaving because Israel covets that land.

01:34:19.000 Well, Israel's argument on record is that we took the land over here from the Native Americans, so what's wrong with them taking some of that land?

01:34:26.000 And they say, hey, you had no claim to the American Indians.

01:34:28.000 Our ancestors had some claim to this.

01:34:31.000 It's just incredible tribal warfare.

01:34:33.000 It never seems to end.

01:34:36.000 And it's really scary.

01:34:37.000 On another note, The video obviously surfaced.

01:34:41.000 We've got it up at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:34:44.000 But Mike Rivera, I wanted to get your view on Obama saying, I will never sign signing statements that go against the will of Congress.

01:34:51.000 Now he's signing seven huge signing statements, literally drawing out whole areas of bills, which really isn't constitutional, but he's ordering the bureaucracies to ignore Congress.

01:35:03.000 And now saying he has that power.

01:35:05.000 So that's going on.

01:35:06.000 Then we also have Axelrod and others making the rounds on the Sunday News Show saying, yeah, we're going to go ahead and raise taxes on everybody and on health care below $250,000.

01:35:17.000 And they're saying Obama promised a compromise.

01:35:20.000 So he made pledges he wouldn't raise taxes and he made pledges He wouldn't do signing statements, but now he made pledges to compromise, so that means lying to people.

01:35:31.000 I mean, this guy is broken every promise he said he would.

01:35:36.000 Yeah, it's absolutely true.

01:35:37.000 I think the amount of time it takes for Obama to break any of his promises can be measured with an egg timer these days.

01:35:44.000 And his word is absolutely worthless.

01:35:47.000 And maybe we ought to sell egg timers that say Obama Truth Measuring Device or something like that.

01:35:53.000 But really, he's been this incredible disappointment because we all, I know you didn't, you know, There were so many people who supported him as at least marginally better than John McCain because we were expecting that there were going to be changes brought in.

01:36:10.000 The White House and Congress were going to be in Democratic hands.

01:36:14.000 We expected there would be changes.

01:36:15.000 It isn't.

01:36:16.000 Nothing has changed at all.

01:36:18.000 Our soldiers are still in Iraq.

01:36:19.000 Yes, they're leaving the cities, which is kind of a token cosmetic thing only, but they're not leaving Iraq. 0.68

01:36:24.000 They're just moving to more difficult quarters.

01:36:26.000 They're changing their locations within Iraq, but they're still garrisoning the country.

01:36:30.000 It's still a U.S. 0.97

01:36:31.000 vassal state.

01:36:32.000 They're still trying to kick up a war in Iran with this provocation of the attempted coup d'etat.

01:36:37.000 And it really is.

01:36:39.000 I am convinced our government knows that the end is near for the economy and that the only way they can survive is to kick up a major war on which they can blame the economic hardships.

01:36:50.000 Because otherwise, absent a major war, the American people are going to put the blame for the destroyed economy right where it belongs, on the federal government.

01:36:59.000 Mike, briefly, on every front, this bill for the feds to federalize the whole country under water rights, this Clean Water Restoration Act, the bill to give the Federal Reserve power over all financial operations, and quote, anything that affects the economies of the entire nation, bills to restrict and ban most types of firearms, compulsory service, the global carbon tax,

01:37:25.000 uh... total amnesty i've never seen such a wild rush to get it all done and the hate crimes legislation passing the house word-for-word saying if you hurt someone's feelings you're gonna be arrested no more free speech i mean it did this is they know we're waking up to him so they're just going for broke right now That's exactly right.

01:37:47.000 This is a big rush.

01:37:48.000 It's a big hurry.

01:37:49.000 They know that it's in a race against the clock because the American people are waking up.

01:37:54.000 I'm surprised that the American people haven't been rioting to this point, but it has to happen at some point.

01:38:00.000 There's going to be a catalyzing event where the American people are going to say, OK, we can't go on pretending that this is going to correct itself.

01:38:07.000 The government is completely out of control.

01:38:09.000 It is a tyrannical dictatorship.

01:38:11.000 It is a fascist economy.

01:38:13.000 They're basically moving to slam the door on all of us to make us so helpless we can't fight back.

01:38:18.000 And we've got to decide that we're going to fight back while we still have the means and the option to do so.

01:38:23.000 Well, Mike, the reason I knew Obama was bad news is eight, nine months before the election, he was saying some really good things.

01:38:29.000 And I said, well, this guy, if he's for real, they're going to put a bullet in him or they're going to bring some scandal out and get rid of him.

01:38:36.000 But then as he started getting ready to win, He started flip-flopping on almost everything.

01:38:42.000 I saw his advisors.

01:38:43.000 I saw him getting four times the Wall Street money that John McCain did, so it wasn't that I was for John McCain.

01:38:49.000 I just knew that Obama was the chosen one, and if the establishment was saying he was the chosen one, there was no way he was going to honor all these pledges, these solemn pledges he had made.

01:39:00.000 And so, now it's just total betrayal, and when I see him go to The Middle East and say I want to be friends with Iran a month ago.

01:39:11.000 I went on air and I said they're about to try to overthrow him during this election.

01:39:14.000 Sure enough that happened and he's lying saying the CIA isn't involved and they're involved on record.

01:39:20.000 So Obama says he's not involved in the Honduran coup and now it comes out the CIA is running the whole thing. 0.96

01:39:27.000 I mean it's just this guy is a good liar. 0.98

01:39:30.000 He's the best liar we've seen in a long time. 1.00

01:39:33.000 He's very, very wicked. 1.00

01:39:35.000 I mean, because he enjoys lying. 0.97

01:39:37.000 He really does a good job of it.

01:39:39.000 And so, it's very scary, but...

01:39:43.000 Final point I'd like to hear from you on.

01:39:45.000 You've really done great research on whatreallyhappened.com on the Anthrax case.

01:39:49.000 In three minutes or less, break down that whole saga, and then them grabbing him and killing him in the mental institution, and now the DNA comes out proving it wasn't him, the third Patsy, because that ties into this BBC.

01:40:00.000 They've grabbed and arrested this guy that made this 7-7 documentary, and now they're saying he's schizophrenic and thinks he's God.

01:40:08.000 This seems to be their favorite MO.

01:40:11.000 Well, this is a tactic that's right out of the Soviet Union. 0.76

01:40:14.000 Anybody who had information that was damaging to the government and they couldn't disprove or discredit him, they'd declare them insane and lock them in a mental hospital. 0.94

01:40:21.000 And the media would basically say, well, you can't listen to anything this guy says because he's a nutcase.

01:40:26.000 And this is a common tactic, and the U.S. 0.88

01:40:28.000 has certainly used it before.

01:40:30.000 Jim Garrison's trial, you were talking about

01:40:33.000 uh... the shake-and-bake tactic Jim Garrison's trial against Clay Shaw was destroyed by a witness who sounded really good and convincing up until he started admitting that he was worried about his daughter being replaced by a duplicate and completely destroyed Garrison's case as far as the anthrax case is concerned uh... they've been trying to blame it on Arabs and so forth and so on when that fell apart they started to find a patsy the bottom line is the Hartford Courant reported there was a scientist actually caught entering the storage area where the anthrax was kept

01:41:01.000 Without authorization after being fired over a racially motivated attack on an Egyptian co-worker.

01:41:07.000 That scientist has never been investigated by the FBI.

01:41:10.000 He's still working within the U.S.

01:41:12.000 defense establishment.

01:41:13.000 He is very protected.

01:41:15.000 We have this core of people who can do anything they want and they're never touched by the law.

01:41:20.000 They're above the law.

01:41:21.000 We saw that with the AIPAC spy case with Rosen and Wiseman.

01:41:24.000 They were never arrested.

01:41:25.000 Now they're contacting the Office of Special Plans.

01:41:30.000 He's being cut free.

01:41:32.000 There's this protected core of subversives within our government.

01:41:36.000 They can't be touched no matter what they do.

01:41:40.000 Yeah, there's a whole bunch of cores of subversives who can do whatever they want, but they had to at least burn Madoff and the other scammer out of Texas.

01:41:48.000 Looks like he's gonna get in trouble, but my God, It's just really incredible to see all of this coming to pass.

01:41:59.000 I mean, Mike, everything the New World Order has built, everything the globalists have worked so hard to set up, we're now at the point where they're trying to put the capstone on the pyramid, but under them, the whole pyramid's shaking and falling apart, and they've got an army of ants fixing the pyramid.

01:42:15.000 As it's collapsing, so they're building it as fast as it's collapsing.

01:42:20.000 It is a losing battle, though.

01:42:21.000 The New World Order will fall.

01:42:23.000 Humanity will defeat them.

01:42:25.000 I absolutely agree.

01:42:27.000 They've waited too long, too late, and they never quite understood just how the alternative media and the Internet change the fundamental flow of information in society.

01:42:35.000 All right.

01:42:36.000 Mike Rivero, always good to hear from you.

01:42:38.000 Appreciate you popping in.

01:42:39.000 We'll see you at your once-a-month visit coming up next week.

01:42:42.000 Take care, my friend.

01:42:43.000 All right.

01:42:44.000 Aloha.

01:42:45.000 Aloha from Hawaii.

01:42:48.000 Man, my wife wants to go to Hawaii. 1.00

01:42:50.000 I've never been to Hawaii.

01:42:51.000 She's never been to Hawaii, but no rest for us here.

01:42:53.000 We're going to stay right here in the bunker and keep fighting the New World Order.

01:42:56.000 Michael, hold down things in Hawaii for us.

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01:52:13.000 Sterilizing the population.

01:52:15.000 Brain damaging the people of the planet. 1.00

01:52:19.000 They use entertainment, Madison Avenue, systems of peer pressure control to turn the young people into insecure, gibbering idiots like Miss Teen South Carolina. 1.00

01:52:35.000 This is psychological warfare. 0.99

01:52:38.000 But many of the people involved in all of this are not aware.

01:52:42.000 They are just simply swimming in the ether into which they were born.

01:52:47.000 But we attempt to understand popular culture.

01:52:49.000 We attempt to, from the outside, look in on it.

01:52:53.000 And hopefully, enter the matrix and remove some of the mind slaves from the system and try to get them to see outside the box at the larger world.

01:53:04.000 Now, again, I should pay more attention to popular culture.

01:53:07.000 I pay attention to the news, to Congress, to legislation, to technology trade publications.

01:53:13.000 I don't really know much about Paris Hilton and Michael Jackson.

01:53:17.000 I just know he likes little kids and gives them the Jesus juice. 0.94

01:53:21.000 But Spencer Pratt and his girlfriend are some of the hottest reality TV stars out there.

01:53:29.000 And I started getting all these calls and emails and Twitters yesterday about the girl that plays Hannah Montana, the Cyrus girl, which I do know a little bit about.

01:53:39.000 I try to tune it out.

01:53:41.000 The, you know, tweenie vehicle to sell products to the tweenies.

01:53:46.000 And that somebody was twittering her and she was asking, what is InfoWars?

01:53:51.000 So that led us down this path to Spencer Pratt, who everybody in the office knows who he is, so I plead ignorance.

01:53:57.000 I read up on him last night and I've heard he's seen some of my films and woke up to the New World Order now.

01:54:03.000 And so boy, wouldn't that be effective to have somebody like that become aware of what's going on and kind of reach into the Matrix and reach more of these people.

01:54:12.000 In the false reality that is modern television and this culture.

01:54:16.000 But Spencer Pratt, good to have you on with us today.

01:54:19.000 Thank you so much.

01:54:20.000 I'm so honored to be on with you.

01:54:22.000 You are a true legend, a true American patriot, and my wife Heidi is also on the phone.

01:54:28.000 Hello, how are you?

01:54:29.000 Hey Heidi, how are you doing?

01:54:30.000 I'm so excited to be on your show.

01:54:33.000 You guys quit being too nice to me now.

01:54:35.000 Let's just sit here and talk about your awakening.

01:54:38.000 I mean, why are you now here on the show?

01:54:41.000 I mean, we saw that you were talking about it, so we contacted you, but I haven't seen a lot about you guys dealing with the New World Order.

01:54:47.000 Is this something you just woke up to, Heidi and Spencer?

01:54:51.000 I mean, just like everybody else on the Earth, we've been too caught up in ourselves and pop culture and things of no substance.

01:54:59.000 And thank the Lord, Heidi's music producer, Steve Morales, he got us a copy of The Obama Deception and then Endgame.

01:55:07.000 And then we watched Masters of Terror, then the 9-11 Chronicles, Matrix the Evil, Police State Trilogy, American Dictators.

01:55:17.000 I mean, we watched I mean, my head's gonna explode without Jones.

01:55:23.000 Okay, so you've got your wife, Heidi, on with you as well.

01:55:28.000 I apologize, I'd forgotten that I'd seen you guys have gotten married.

01:55:32.000 How long ago did you guys start researching this, Heidi and Spencer?

01:55:37.000 I would say several months ago, but I've always been a big Christian, so I knew about the Mark of the Beast and, you know, the Antichrist and the end of the world, but I just never realized Who it was.

01:55:49.000 I always knew it would come.

01:55:51.000 I felt like in my time since I was a child, but this is a whole different awakening with facts and with what's really going on every day in the world.

01:56:01.000 Well, I don't think the establishment's going to like you guys waking up.

01:56:04.000 I mean, you reach millions and millions of young people.

01:56:08.000 Literally, even older folks in my office know who you guys are, so I'm kind of embarrassed that I just now discovered.

01:56:16.000 But I mean, all over pop magazines, TV, David Letterman, all these other shows, Maybe you can also explain to me, because I know about the New World Order and about the whole control grid, but also maybe you can explain to me and others exactly what this phenomenon is of your type of celebrity as well, so we can better understand how to reach out to these young people.

01:56:38.000 So we've got Spencer Pratt and his wife Heidi Pratt on the line with us, so we'll go over all of that.

01:56:47.000 After this quick break.

01:56:48.000 And see, I don't know why, but the guys are laughing in the control room.

01:56:51.000 When they start laughing, it makes me laugh.

01:56:53.000 And that makes me smile, because I don't know why this is so entertaining to them.

01:56:57.000 But it's great to have you guys with us.

01:56:59.000 Stay with us after the break.

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02:00:05.000 Spencer Pratt and...

02:00:12.000 Heidi Montag Pratt, actors from the hills on MTV and a bunch of other reality TV shows are on with us.

02:00:21.000 And again, the reason I'm doing this is everybody keeps talking about Twitter for the last year.

02:00:26.000 As folks know, the revolution in Iran, the CIA was pumping to the State Department through Twitter.

02:00:35.000 That's even mainstream news.

02:00:37.000 And so we started all these calls and thousands of Twitter messages about Miley Cyrus, Billy Ray Cyrus' daughter that plays Hannah Montana, which of course everybody knows is a giant icon now with little girls and teenagers out there, that Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag, we're sitting there twittering her and she's saying, what's InfoWars?

02:01:04.000 And so then that gets all these young girls and teenagers to go look at InfoWars.com.

02:01:08.000 So that's great!

02:01:09.000 This is exactly who we want to reach.

02:01:11.000 We want these kids at least to stop drinking sodium fluoride that gives them bone cancer, dental fluorosis and brain damage and calcifies every major organ and causes pancreatic cancer and diabetes.

02:01:20.000 You can Google each one of those terms and get mainstream news admitting that.

02:01:23.000 We want girls to know that a lot of these birth control drugs actually sterilize them. 1.00

02:01:29.000 We want women to know the UN's been caught adding sterilization hormones to tetanus shots. 0.70

02:01:34.000 We want to reach young women especially who are targeted by the globalists.

02:01:38.000 And so this is kind of an end run to the back door of the cultural mind control system to have somebody like Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag Pratt on with us, because the system is using these type of young icons to keep people in the Matrix, to have them breaking out of the Matrix is a big deal.

02:01:56.000 So I'm going to try to shut up for a few minutes and let Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag, husband and wife, talk about your awakening to the New World Order, the films, and now what you want to say in your message that has been followed by young people Where you're going with this information that you've now discovered.

02:02:16.000 Well, like I said, you know, it's a recent awakening.

02:02:20.000 I really do feel like we took the blue pill or whatever and Matrix and I feel like you really did pull that little mechanical thing out of the back of my brain because Heidi and I have both, or as I should say, Spidey, have led to the situation we are out of this planet where, you know, there's so much attention and focus on so many of the wrong issues.

02:02:42.000 Like, for instance, Ourselves.

02:02:43.000 Like, how are we so famous when, you know, the climate bill is not even a trending topic on Twitter?

02:02:50.000 For the last three days, I've just kept on asking everybody, as my followers, how is this not a trending topic?

02:02:56.000 We got everything from Michael Jackson to, you know, Jamie Foxx was a trending topic.

02:03:02.000 We even had Iran was a trending topic, but nothing about, you know, the biggest deal, you know, since the Patriot Act getting passed with nobody reading it.

02:03:10.000 And the people who do want to read it, they say you can't even read it.

02:03:13.000 And they're not even giving anybody time and they're changing the name of the bill.

02:03:16.000 And I mean, it's just it's mind boggling that they're trying to say there's global warming right now.

02:03:21.000 And, you know, that the ice caps are melting and the polar bears are going to drown.

02:03:25.000 And we all know, we've all seen footage of the polar bears swimming to new pieces of ice.

02:03:30.000 And we all know that at least anybody who does their research, thanks to Alex Jones, knows that it was the coldest winter in years in Antarctica.

02:03:37.000 Was it 30 percent more ice?

02:03:39.000 Yeah, almost, almost.

02:03:41.000 It got larger and thicker.

02:03:45.000 So, I mean, it's just shocking to me.

02:03:47.000 And after I watched your DVDs and, you know, this isn't conspiracy theory.

02:03:52.000 These are factual evidence.

02:03:54.000 It's just stuff that the mainstream media does not present to the public.

02:03:59.000 You don't see, you know, I didn't learn any of this.

02:04:01.000 I went to USC for eight years.

02:04:04.000 This is the craziest thing.

02:04:05.000 Ready for this?

02:04:06.000 My best friend since kindergarten is a 180 IQ, brilliant, mathematician, genius.

02:04:11.000 You know, he got top of his class, USC, Marshall School of Business.

02:04:16.000 You know, he's a big time investment banker.

02:04:18.000 I called him the other day and I said, real quick, I said, Brian, serious question.

02:04:23.000 Do you know the Federal Reserve is a private company and it's not federal?

02:04:28.000 It's as federal as Federal Express?

02:04:30.000 And he goes, what are you talking about?

02:04:32.000 He goes, yes it is.

02:04:33.000 And I'm arguing here with my genius, genius friend who lives and breathes business and everything.

02:04:39.000 And he is shocked, like I just told him, you know, I don't even know what I told him.

02:04:44.000 He was so just shocked and blown away by the fact that he couldn't believe that the Federal Reserve, that he, you know, he's been to business school and he doesn't even know this?

02:04:52.000 And I mean, I felt dirty.

02:04:54.000 I almost threw up that I had to tell my friend who's an investment banker who works for a major firm that the Federal Reserve is not, is not, you know, an American part of the government, you know?

02:05:06.000 Incredible.

02:05:07.000 So, we also want to get Heidi to pop in here. 1.00

02:05:10.000 When did you first start waking up?

02:05:12.000 You said one of your managers, or one of Heidi's managers, gave you the Obama deception?

02:05:18.000 Keith Morales is a music producer of mine, and we were in the studio one night, and he was watching us, and he said, you guys need to watch it.

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02:05:29.000 You need to know what's going on in this world. 0.99

02:05:32.000 And I believe then, he, yeah, I call his dumb head, that we didn't know. 0.92

02:05:37.000 So, we started watching this, and then Spencer ordered every single DVD and has been non-stop researching your websites and the internet and everything now for at least a month, all day, every day. 0.96

02:05:50.000 So, we've just been trying to figure out the truth, and I've always been a very big Christian, so I've always known, you know, the Mark of the Beast and the Antichrist and Jesus coming back.

02:05:59.000 So, to me, it all makes sense.

02:06:02.000 It's not a foreign concept, and especially now that they're trying to do the chips, You will have to kill me before I get a chip.

02:06:09.000 That would never happen. 0.52

02:06:10.000 The fact that people are even already okay with this is sickening.

02:06:14.000 I could throw up right now.

02:06:15.000 A chip?

02:06:16.000 Are we dogs?

02:06:17.000 Dogs don't even deserve chips. 0.91

02:06:21.000 Well, absolutely.

02:06:22.000 In fact, have you guys seen all the newscasts saying we all need chips, old people need them, prisoners, the troops, a lot of them have been secretly chipped, the Mexican Attorney General made his employees take chips, and now to get in the cool clubs in Europe and the US, they want you to take a chip?

02:06:38.000 And they've got federal officials going around telling people we all need to take chips.

02:06:43.000 And the churches aren't saying anything because they've been 501c3 federalized.

02:06:49.000 And you have the clergy response teams where FEMA has secretly federalized the churches.

02:06:54.000 I mean, this is very serious.

02:06:57.000 This is very serious.

02:06:58.000 And it says in the Bible that is the mark of the beast and that is the sign of worshiping the devil.

02:07:04.000 So over my dead body would I ever get a chip in my body.

02:07:09.000 My body belongs to Jesus Christ, to God alone, and no one will ever put anything in me.

02:07:15.000 I will not worship the devil.

02:07:17.000 I will not be conformed to this world.

02:07:19.000 That will not happen, and people should stand up, because I am not, you know, being covered up by FEMA right now.

02:07:26.000 I am a disciple of Jesus, and I will speak out to Christians, and I will let people know this is not right. 1.00

02:07:32.000 Well, we may have to put you in the Homeland Security Mayak report.

02:07:36.000 What do you guys think about all these reports saying gun owners, Christians, conservatives, people that won't accept the New World Order are terrorists, and Homeland Security was really set up for us, not for Al Qaeda.

02:07:49.000 I mean, it's just so terrifying if you look at history.

02:07:52.000 When they start taking away your gun rights, just like Hitler did, just like Mussolini did, just like Mao Zedong did, it's like, that's when you know.

02:08:01.000 I mean, I need to learn the Constitution way better, but I know there's, you'll know the quote, but something about when the lawful take away your guns, they become the unlawful, is that it?

02:08:13.000 Well, yeah, the Declaration of Independence states over and over again that when the government becomes abusive and oppressive, it's your right to go up against them, and that the Constitution and Bill of Rights only points out your God-given rights, rights you already had.

02:08:26.000 It's kind of like they had laws that black people weren't human beings, but natural law said they were human beings and had a right, if somebody was beating them over the head with a bullwhip, to jerk the whip away and kill the person that was doing it. 0.65

02:08:38.000 So, kind of like Nazi Germany, they said, Hitler said it was his law that he could kill whoever he wanted, but the people really had a right to stand up against Hitler and try to stop him.

02:08:50.000 So, I mean, that's really what's happening there is that tyranny always tries to disarm the people.

02:08:55.000 What are your friends saying in the last few months as you guys have been Kind of getting away from being so obsessed with image or TV or success and fame, which is the number one goal of most people now in the United States and worldwide, into these type of subjects.

02:09:14.000 What are your friends and family and neighbors and colleagues saying?

02:09:17.000 I mean, they're all, you know, because media has been so good at labeling, you know, you know, anybody with facts and trying to, you know, take away from the status quo as conspiracy theorists.

02:09:28.000 So at first, they're like, oh, you know, their instinct makes them just, the truth feels crazy.

02:09:33.000 The reality is, you give them an Obama deception DVD, and you say, how about we have this conversation after you watch this DVD?

02:09:40.000 Next thing you know, I got my friends, you know, twittering info wars, you know?

02:09:45.000 And that's just so powerful.

02:09:47.000 You have to be presented with the facts, and nobody ever is, and that's why I feel so privileged that God did give us the opportunity to have so many people be aware of us, whether they like us or not.

02:09:58.000 They're forced to hear our voice.

02:10:01.000 my voice is now going to be aware of the info words that are attacking your mind.

02:10:05.000 And, you know, it's just so sick because, I mean, once you really put us on the fluoride, like my dad, who's a dentist, has been telling me my whole life, do not use toothpaste with fluoride.

02:10:15.000 You know, you don't listen to your dad, especially when he's your dentist.

02:10:18.000 You're just like, eh, I don't want to use my bleaching toothpaste.

02:10:22.000 I'm not listening to you.

02:10:23.000 And then I'll watch your documentaries and all the science about, you know, what fluoride does and how they use fluoride in concentration camps and fluoride was the first thing put in the water for the Iraqi people.

02:10:35.000 And it's like now, you know how hard it is for me to go to market and even find a drinking water bottle that says fluoride free or even to find a toothpaste that says fluoride free?

02:10:46.000 Like I'm trying to stock up on these because they don't even exist anymore.

02:10:50.000 Yeah, what a small world.

02:10:51.000 My dad's a dentist, too.

02:10:55.000 Wow!

02:10:56.000 Well, small world.

02:10:56.000 Now, guys, Heidi, we're about to go to break, but what has it been like for you talking to friends and family and neighbors now that you're kind of shifting your view?

02:11:08.000 Because I've always been a very serious Christian.

02:11:11.000 And most Christians understand what's going on.

02:11:14.000 They understand they're being persecuted.

02:11:16.000 They understand this is the end of the world.

02:11:18.000 They understand the New World Order, the One World Currency, is all in Revelations in the Bible.

02:11:24.000 So they're taking me very seriously, and they know when I mean something, that it's a message, and I'm not just full of things, and I tell the truth, and, you know?

02:11:33.000 Jesus says to hate evil, and to claim what is good.

02:11:37.000 You know, so also, we're being in that, and I mean, it's just a very scary thing, and first and so I'm glad you said that, because I had a whole realization about that the other day, and I thought... Well, stay there, stay there, Heidi.

02:11:51.000 Heidi Montag and her husband, Spencer Pratt, both on the line with us right now.

02:11:55.000 Stay there.

02:11:55.000 Quick break, we'll come right back to you.

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02:15:59.000 Spencer Pratt and his wife, Heidi Montag, join us. .

02:16:10.000 Short segment, long segment coming up.

02:16:13.000 After this one, and I'll get into a bunch of other questions.

02:16:15.000 Maybe we can take a few calls.

02:16:18.000 Heidi, you were trying to tell a story before we hit that break.

02:16:21.000 I was just saying about birth control because I got very scared about it the other day, and I felt like God was telling me that this was something just created by the government that is really bad for my body, and I was just getting sick.

02:16:34.000 And I researched it, and one of the founding people who invented birth control said it was the worst thing that they've ever done.

02:16:42.000 They wish they never created it.

02:16:45.000 How it morally corrupted society is just sickening to him.

02:16:50.000 How it devalues women, how it causes depression, how it can cause cancer, how it sterilizes your body and what it does to your body, how most women are suicidal sometimes on it. 0.95

02:17:02.000 And in fact, in order to even stabilize the population right now, each woman would have to have three children. 1.00

02:17:10.000 That the population is decreasing so much that population control is just a myth.

02:17:16.000 That's right, because the eugenicists want to kill the West, because they see that as their competition.

02:17:21.000 Then they're going to kill the third world. 1.00

02:17:23.000 But that's the key for all these racist white people that go, yeah, kill the Africans, kill the Asians, yeah, we need to get rid of them. 1.00

02:17:30.000 They're being reduced as well, and exactly. 1.00

02:17:33.000 Europe's got 1.3 population.

02:17:35.000 The United States, if you take out the illegal alien influx, it's about 1.4.

02:17:40.000 So you guys really do know your stuff on this.

02:17:44.000 You really, I guess, had a crash course in all of this?

02:17:46.000 Or were you already aware of a lot of these issues before you saw my films?

02:17:52.000 No, your film definitely put us in a crash course schooling system.

02:17:57.000 We needed to really learn our facts, and it inspired us to a whole new level.

02:18:01.000 And we love our guns.

02:18:02.000 We go shooting all the time.

02:18:04.000 We love our guns.

02:18:05.000 My dad loves his guns.

02:18:07.000 And they're for your protection.

02:18:09.000 They're not taking it out of the hands of bad guys.

02:18:12.000 They're the ones who can still get the guns.

02:18:14.000 They're the ones who will have the guns in the streets.

02:18:16.000 And the police officers who abuse their authority, as I've seen many times in your case, it makes me disgusted.

02:18:25.000 And I hate what is evil.

02:18:26.000 And I feel so bad for the people in this world because they just have no idea what's going on.

02:18:32.000 And I'm praying for this world.

02:18:33.000 And I'm praying for Obama.

02:18:34.000 And I'm praying that these people will somehow get a conscience or something because it's just sick and saddening.

02:18:41.000 And I know the end is very near.

02:18:45.000 Well, certainly the end of the civilization as we know it, because of technological developments and all the other lines that are projecting right now to this mega-crossroads, this key time that society is entering right now, specifically with The girl that plays Hannah Montana, this Cyrus girl who is such a megastar around the world.

02:19:11.000 One of you guys was texting her from the exchange I saw and we posted at presentplanet.com and she said, what is InfoWars?

02:19:18.000 And just from that we got thousands of Twitters and emails and more pouring in today from new listeners and young people trying to find out what's going on and trying to discover what's happening.

02:19:28.000 I mean that is so valuable to see that going on.

02:19:31.000 I hope That you guys and others can reach out to Miss Cyrus and explain to her she's being used by the globalists who want to restrict free speech with the Cyber Bullying Act that states, and I'm going to read it after the break, word for word, that if you hurt someone's feelings The government's going to come charge you with a felony and put you in prison, the end of the First Amendment.

02:19:54.000 I mean, obviously bullying isn't a nice thing, but having the feds come arrest people for their speech, I don't think she wants to be known as the person that helped kill America.

02:20:05.000 No, and I know Miley, and she's a great girl, and I was twittering her about it because I want everyone to be aware about it.

02:20:12.000 And she had no idea.

02:20:13.000 And it's very hard to find out about you because they try to keep InfoWars and Alex Jones, everything very hidden and secretive because they know that the weapon used against them is truth.

02:20:24.000 And truth hurts.

02:20:25.000 And that's what they're trying to hide from everyone.

02:20:28.000 And, you know, we want to make everyone aware of what's going on before it's too late.

02:20:33.000 And I saw what you were saying about the Bully Act, and that is just robbing everyone of freedom of speech.

02:20:38.000 God's saying if I put up a Bible verse on my Twitter, then I can be hurting people's feelings and be persecuted for it.

02:20:45.000 And that's not America.

02:20:46.000 And it's so sad that it's gotten this far.

02:20:50.000 Well, I want to be clear.

02:20:52.000 We're not saying that Miley Cyrus is bad.

02:20:55.000 And I said that day one.

02:20:56.000 I said she was being used.

02:20:57.000 No, no, of course.

02:20:58.000 Yeah, I'm agreeing with you.

02:21:00.000 She hasn't known.

02:21:02.000 None of us know.

02:21:03.000 It's very hard to find out.

02:21:04.000 The fact that she showed interest in this really made a big difference to so many little girls and to so many people.

02:21:12.000 It was such a blessing.

02:21:15.000 Have you gotten any feedback from her about the cyber bullying now?

02:21:19.000 I haven't, but I'm definitely going to talk to her about it.

02:21:22.000 I want to talk to her in person about it, too.

02:21:24.000 Well, the minute you do, please let us know, because I want to get you on and tell us what she said or get her on with you.

02:21:29.000 That would be huge to have Miley Cyrus on here. 0.96

02:21:32.000 But if the CIA hears, they're going to contact her daddy, who's all mobbed up with the government.

02:21:37.000 I mean, I'm sure he's a friendly person as well and probably try to stop her from coming on.

02:21:41.000 But they definitely don't want the info war going to all those young girls. 0.77

02:21:44.000 Stay there.

02:21:46.000 Heidi and Spencer, this is amazing information.

02:21:48.000 We're on the march.

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02:25:10.000 So is Spencer, Mr. and Mrs. Pratt.

02:25:12.000 Connie Montag and Spencer Pratt here.

02:25:16.000 And literally, I had no idea how big these guests are and the whole pop culture thing.

02:25:21.000 The whole office knows who they are.

02:25:23.000 Jaron's like a fan.

02:25:24.000 He was telling me, I read People Magazine every week.

02:25:27.000 And, uh, you know, keep track of this, and I think they're misunderstood by the media.

02:25:31.000 And that's what Burmese is saying.

02:25:33.000 Jason here in the office, he's saying that the media enjoys, quote, throwing you guys under the bus.

02:25:39.000 Can you explain that to me?

02:25:42.000 Because what I'm getting here from the office is, is you guys are all over TV, all over the news, covers of magazines.

02:25:47.000 You know, when I started looking into you yesterday, I recognized your faces and names, even though I hadn't really been paying attention to pop culture.

02:25:54.000 Because I've got to remember that pop culture is where it's all at.

02:25:56.000 Most Americans don't even check the news, much less go deep into it.

02:26:01.000 So, what is your relationship with the media?

02:26:04.000 Uh, we used to have a phenomenal relationship with the media.

02:26:08.000 They've kind of turned on us now because they've created us into such a monstrous fame monster, in their opinion, that, like, we, like, for instance, certain websites can't even have us on their website because we are overshadowing all the other stars that they're trying to promote and everything.

02:26:26.000 Like, they made us too big.

02:26:27.000 like they're Obama-sized us.

02:26:29.000 And now they kind of make a mistake because other people they're trying to promote don't even have value on their websites anymore.

02:26:36.000 So, you know, they've kind of turned on us.

02:26:38.000 But in the beginning, the reason why we got so big is because the girls' television show, the reality show that we were both on, the narrator didn't get along with us.

02:26:49.000 So she's the narrator.

02:26:50.000 So the skew, the manipulation of the angle of being able to narrate the show, just like American government can narrate our media, it's the same exact principles.

02:27:01.000 Like, so they can either put a positive light on you or a negative light.

02:27:05.000 We took the negative light and smiled and went with it.

02:27:08.000 And, you know, we're very appreciative of, you know, good press, negative press, whatever, because at the end of the day, now we have a bigger, you know, reach to talk about Alex Jones and, you know, the New World Order takeover.

02:27:20.000 You were telling me during the break, though, that your life has really changed traditionally.

02:27:26.000 Can you say that in your own words for the audience?

02:27:28.000 But really challenge young people to spread the word about the New World Order takeover that we're in the middle of.

02:27:36.000 I mean, uh, it's beyond a life change.

02:27:39.000 Like, when I said you gave me the Matrix Pearl, you know, I really feel like I'm out of the Matrix, and we're driving around in that little spaceship in the sewers, and you're at the helm.

02:27:49.000 Because, I mean, what young people need to realize, what I didn't realize, is that video games and all these hate blogs, which is, you know, no substance, just You know, just evil.

02:28:00.000 You know, all blogs are just making fun of people, you know, breaking people down, you know, getting the right comments.

02:28:06.000 You know, it's just like the, the bathroom wall, you know, on the internet.

02:28:10.000 And for me, just yesterday, I'm 25 years old and it took me, you know, yesterday to delete on my bookmarks on my iPhone and my computer.

02:28:20.000 Exactly!

02:28:21.000 website that feed me, you know, just popcorn news, and all my blogs that, you know, about Hollywood and the music industry, all this stuff that has no meaning in our lives right now. - Exactly, they wanna get you drunk on petty issues, like that story from Yahoo News, the they wanna get you drunk on petty issues, like that story from Yahoo News, the cover charge at this club, an RFID implant, and it says, "Take the chips, "you don't have to worry about money, "worry about nothing, just party

02:28:50.000 It says to take a burden off of you.

02:28:53.000 To free customers of the burdens of having to carry their purses and wallets.

02:28:57.000 But really, you're being enslaved to a chip to track and trace everything you do to bring you into this electronic straitjacket, this electronic prison or plantation or neo-serf feudalist system, and it's sold as if it's so good, and then the girls and the boys and the teenagers, the young people, are all so insecure because they don't look like a Heidi or they don't look like a Spencer.

02:29:22.000 That then makes them insecure so the establishment can come in and then sell them the products and then make them never feel like empowered entities or creatures alive one time on this planet as a test by God to see where they go in the future.

02:29:37.000 I think it's very exciting that you guys, these big pop culture icons, are now having this metamorphosis to the New World Order.

02:29:46.000 Is it fair to say you guys have woken up then to the Matrix and the New World Order?

02:29:50.000 That would be an understatement.

02:29:52.000 We've definitely woken up to what's going on and to the New World Order and to a real Matrix that there is in the world.

02:30:00.000 It's not...

02:30:02.000 It's nothing to do with that.

02:30:03.000 That's a word that they've created to make people sound crazy.

02:30:07.000 It's like, you only sound crazy if you don't believe what everyone believes, if you're not a sheep.

02:30:12.000 But that's not what God says, and now that people are trying to play God on this earth, it's very scary.

02:30:17.000 And I pray for their souls, because there's a lot more than this life, and do not mess with God or his people, because there will be punishment for it.

02:30:26.000 And this is a very scary thing.

02:30:28.000 These tips are disgusting.

02:30:30.000 I keep hearing this and I can't even believe it.

02:30:33.000 They've done such a good job at making computers seem cool and you need the new technology, the new anything at any cost.

02:30:40.000 That is such a lie. 0.95

02:30:42.000 That is so disgusting.

02:30:44.000 We're incriminating ourselves by laziness and it's very sad and I really pray for America and that everybody wakes up because this tip is the end of Well, I will tell you what happened is Old Hollywood, the really big stars, they're all awake to this and I know A lot of these people, and a lot of them have reached out to me publicly, but most of them off record, and they're totally aware of the technological control grid.

02:31:12.000 They're totally aware of the vaccines and the fluoride and the New World Order.

02:31:16.000 They're totally freaked out just trying to do their movies to make money so they can, you know, live outside the country or live in an armored compound.

02:31:24.000 They're not into fame anymore.

02:31:26.000 They're totally freaked out, but just playing along with the system.

02:31:30.000 Then there's kind of the new Hollywood super hype that just bypasses movies and films and just moves right to these kind of pop creations like you guys.

02:31:41.000 But to have you kind of at the front lines of the Matrix system taking over people's brains, to have you breaking out of the Matrix all because one of your music Uh, uh, managers or friends showed you the Obama deception, and then that led you down deeper into the rabbit hole, uh, is just so incredibly exciting.

02:31:59.000 Now, in the last few months, since you started waking up to this, have you seen the media come after you even more?

02:32:05.000 Because folks in my office that are aware of what's happening, they say it seems the last few months, the media's even been savaging you that much more.

02:32:14.000 We're just getting angrier and angrier, but I feel like the world is just getting angrier and angrier.

02:32:20.000 I don't even think it's necessarily that.

02:32:22.000 They want to come harder after us to distract people even more from what's going on in their own lives.

02:32:27.000 So they're not thinking, oh wow, I'm in debt, the government's taking over, what are we going to do?

02:32:32.000 They're thinking, oh well Heidi and Spencer are blah blah blah.

02:32:36.000 That is so sad to me.

02:32:40.000 Absolutely.

02:32:41.000 I see people cheating each other more.

02:32:44.000 I see the public lying.

02:32:45.000 I see infighting.

02:32:46.000 I see government getting more corrupt.

02:32:49.000 It really is like the fall of Rome.

02:32:51.000 Everything is accelerating towards this collapse.

02:32:56.000 And they mean to build on those ashes this world government, which its plan stated in my film, Endgame Blueprint for Global Enslavement, on record, is to kill at least 80% of us.

02:33:08.000 And I'm sorry folks, that's more important than if your Botox is working.

02:33:13.000 That's more important than Michael Jackson is the lion state for all his fans at the Neverland Pervert Ranch.

02:33:22.000 It's more important that Barack Obama is running a pimp game of lying to everybody about everything he said he would do than whether or not Anna Nicole Smith was murdered.

02:33:32.000 What do you guys say to that?

02:33:35.000 I mean, what really hit me is when you started, you know, uncovering all the evidence of how, you know, Obama's just all tied into all these energy companies.

02:33:45.000 And it's just like Bush and his whole crew, they were all about the oil.

02:33:49.000 But America, when they were ready to revolutionize and get, you know, really make a stand, you know, they threw in Obama, and now he's, oh, oil's bad.

02:33:58.000 Oh, you're totally right.

02:33:59.000 Everybody was done with oil.

02:34:00.000 But I got this new hustle over here, which is energy, that I'm sure you don't realize that I have a piece of.

02:34:07.000 You know, let's push this on to everybody.

02:34:10.000 Exactly.

02:34:11.000 For those that don't know, Obama owns stock in two of the mercantile energy trading companies with Al Gore.

02:34:18.000 That's now mainstream news.

02:34:19.000 We told people about it in the Obama Deception, but it's now mainstream news.

02:34:22.000 We saw the federal filings.

02:34:24.000 And Al Gore is the majority owner of Occidental Petroleum, one of the biggest oil companies in the world.

02:34:28.000 And what it is is artificial scarcity.

02:34:30.000 They're just creating a monopoly where they're going to charge you more for regular energy and restrict the amount of energy you get.

02:34:37.000 Well, I've been asking questions here for 25, 30 minutes.

02:34:40.000 You guys get into whatever subjects you want to discuss.

02:34:43.000 What about government-sponsored terror?

02:34:44.000 What about 9-11?

02:34:46.000 What about governments staging terror attacks?

02:34:48.000 Is 9-11 an inside job from your research?

02:34:50.000 Not from my research, but from your research, it 100% is.

02:34:55.000 Because I can't even believe that it took me seeing your film to know about Building 7.

02:35:03.000 How did that not hit the news to media?

02:35:05.000 How did, like, oh, and my favorite clip in your film is when the owner of the World Trade Center, he goes, I said, bring it down.

02:35:13.000 I mean, I don't know the statistics, but I've watched documentaries on Vegas blowing up buildings.

02:35:18.000 They charge the buildings up for, like, two weeks to, like, a month.

02:35:22.000 How did they just steal enough bombs to take down Building 7 so beautifully in, like, a half hour?

02:35:27.000 You know, like, that just made me sick.

02:35:30.000 Well, you just joined the ranks of Andres von Mulo, former German defense minister, high-level members of the Japanese government.

02:35:38.000 You just joined the ranks of Charlie Sheen and Willie Nelson and Governor Jesse Ventura and countless others on this show that have gone public for 9-11 Truth.

02:35:48.000 Is this the first time?

02:35:50.000 I mean, that's how the media is.

02:35:52.000 How can I never even be asked about that until today?

02:35:56.000 You're the first person that's even asked me about 9-11.

02:35:58.000 I never even be asked about that until today.

02:36:01.000 You're the first person that's even asked me about 9-11.

02:36:04.000 Like, this is something that's so big in American history, that it's already forgotten about.

02:36:09.000 Oh, it was two planes, terrorists, done.

02:36:11.000 End of story.

02:36:12.000 Let's not investigate.

02:36:13.000 Close up the files.

02:36:14.000 When I read on your site, infowars.com, that Obama already, he just, didn't he just end the lawsuit against the Saudi family for the 9-11 families?

02:36:24.000 Like, I mean, I just, I want to throw up.

02:36:28.000 Amen.

02:36:28.000 Well, I have to tell you, both of you, I hadn't talked to you before you came on.

02:36:32.000 We saw you guys twittering, so we contacted you.

02:36:35.000 My wife was actually up here, and she thought it was a good idea to do it.

02:36:38.000 And I'm glad she had the idea, because now, speaking to you for the last 40 minutes, you guys really know your stuff.

02:36:43.000 You've really been listening to the show, you've done your research, and you've also got courage.

02:36:50.000 I think it's really sad and I think they're doing it in small ways as well as big ways.

02:36:54.000 your awakening with us.

02:36:56.000 And, of course, it just gets deeper down the rabbit hole from here.

02:36:58.000 Heidi, what's your view on government-sponsored terror and 9-11?

02:37:02.000 I think it's really sad, and I think they're doing it in small ways as well as big ways.

02:37:09.000 You know, the Oklahoma City bombings, I saw that whole clip and how there were two men in there and several men and other bombs going off.

02:37:17.000 There were, what, four bombs in that building and two went off right away?

02:37:21.000 I mean, the fact that they can just cover things up...

02:37:24.000 And the fact that they are so smug about it, they don't even really care about anyone else in this.

02:37:29.000 And the other night in downtown L.A., they're doing those drills that are in your video, the Blackhawks taking over downtown L.A.

02:37:38.000 ten nights in a row!

02:37:40.000 What do they need to be downtown in L.A.

02:37:42.000 for, scaring the people, actually terrorizing L.A., getting ready for whatever they're getting ready for?

02:37:49.000 It's just really sad and sick, and people are like, Oh, it must be for a movie.

02:37:54.000 It's not for a movie.

02:37:55.000 This is the government.

02:37:56.000 You're not in a Hollywood set.

02:37:58.000 They've done such a good job of making everyone live through movies and video games that you don't really feel like this is life.

02:38:05.000 But people, this is life, and you have won, and it's given to you by God, and that's the only person who should tell you what you should do.

02:38:12.000 It says in the Bible that we should be free men and only answer to God.

02:38:16.000 I'm only scared of God.

02:38:17.000 You can do certain things to my body, anything, but Jesus is the only one that I would bow down to and be scared of.

02:38:24.000 No king but King Jesus.

02:38:26.000 Amen.

02:38:27.000 That was the Revolutionary War cry that they don't teach in schools.

02:38:31.000 Incredible.

02:38:31.000 You're absolutely right.

02:38:32.000 We're being sucked into a matrix.

02:38:33.000 I'll sit there at a restaurant with my children and my wife and my kids.

02:38:38.000 We don't watch a lot of TV at home, very little, and they'll just like zombies be watching and all the other kids are like zombies watching the TV, even if it's the, you know, soccer game or Kentucky Derby or, you know, Fox News, they're watching it.

02:38:51.000 And other kids are sitting there playing video games while they're at the table.

02:38:55.000 You know, kids at other tables with their parents, not even communicating with their family.

02:39:00.000 I mean, people are literally being programmed by this.

02:39:03.000 And having pop sensations like yourselves come out and expose this is going to be a big blow against the establishment.

02:39:10.000 But all I can say is, guys, get ready to be attacked, because I think you're going to have even more attacks from the mainstream media.

02:39:19.000 But I think no weapon formed against you will prosper.

02:39:21.000 I think that's going to backfire and only give you more attention.

02:39:25.000 Amen, and I agree, and we are in Jesus' hands, and you can persecute us.

02:39:29.000 You can say whatever you want, that's fine, because we are not conformed to this world.

02:39:33.000 We are living for eternal life, and I pray for all these souls, and that's the only thing that matters.

02:39:40.000 Well, this has been an incredible interview, and we've got about 12 minutes or so left with a break in the middle.

02:39:46.000 Other points about the New World Order. 0.83

02:39:48.000 What else have you been noticing?

02:39:49.000 Because once you come out of the Matrix, and This has happened to me in phases as well.

02:39:54.000 When I first got on air 13 years ago, I was more of a mainline kind of Ron Paul libertarian, and then I kept discovering stuff was real, and a newspaper reporter said, come to Bohemian Grove, try to sneak in.

02:40:05.000 And I snuck in and got the footage, and there were world leaders doing a mock human sacrifice, and Vanity Fair snuck in and got arrested, but not before they saw homosexual orgies with so-called Christian Republican leaders. 0.89

02:40:19.000 And my whole issue is that Truth is so much crazier than the fiction they put on the news and TV.

02:40:27.000 That's all a distraction to keep from seeing the real world.

02:40:31.000 Heidi Spencer, your comments on Bohemian Grove and this whole Luciferian system?

02:40:36.000 I mean, honestly, I can't even imagine listeners who haven't seen your DVD around the Bohemian Grove.

02:40:41.000 It just sounds like so far-fetched and conspiracy-based, so anybody who's listening that thinks that sounds crazy, you need to watch it for yourself.

02:40:49.000 When you see all these powerful world leaders, you know, business people, politicians, wearing robes, you know, screaming to fire as the ash, the fake human It's getting burned, and they're all screaming, and they're wearing cloaks.

02:41:04.000 It's like, these are not the people I want running my country.

02:41:08.000 Anybody dressed in a cloak and around a fire is not supposed to be who's running America.

02:41:15.000 In fact, I just thought to try to pull up on YouTube the clip of the high priest, and when they practiced the mock burning of the child, that horrible scream.

02:41:26.000 And then the media said, well, Alex, you snuck in.

02:41:29.000 It was just a play.

02:41:31.000 But I was there with the old men in the audience.

02:41:33.000 They were getting off on it, and in a type of religious rapture. 0.51

02:41:37.000 Other Hollywood folks you talk to about this stuff, are they saying, yeah, I knew this was going on all along, but just didn't know the full picture, or I knew something was wrong in my gut, or are they saying, hey, you're just a kook? 0.99

02:41:51.000 Well, we're kind of our own entity.

02:41:52.000 We're like Bonnie and Clyde over here.

02:41:56.000 We have just been telling the people who matter the most in our lives, which are our family and friends and our Twitter fans, and trying to really get the whole world aware, but I saw that clip and I was praying to Jesus that that was not a real child that they were mock burning, because I heard that scream.

02:42:12.000 And that was a gut-wrenching, that's a crazy, crazy sacrifice.

02:42:17.000 And this country was founded on the Bible.

02:42:19.000 Our forefathers, this is a Christian country.

02:42:22.000 And people have seemed to forgot that by now, that there's all these religions, and which one, and any religion's okay.

02:42:28.000 No.

02:42:28.000 In the Bible, it says you can only get to the Father through the Son.

02:42:32.000 And that is what our country knew.

02:42:34.000 And that's what our forefathers, our founding fathers, it's in the Constitution.

02:42:38.000 And I do not want some Lucarian Illuminati All right, Heidi.

02:42:42.000 Final segment.

02:42:43.000 Stay there.

02:42:43.000 We're going to come back.

02:42:45.000 And also plug your Twitter accounts and websites.

02:42:47.000 and it's just a very crazy situation.

02:42:50.000 All right, Hottie, final segment. 1.00

02:42:52.000 Stay there.

02:42:53.000 We're going to come back and also plug your Twitter accounts and websites.

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02:46:05.000 I'm sure there will be some media attacks dealing with...

02:46:09.000 We'll be right back.

02:46:11.000 This interview, I now have Gawker attacking me on a once a week basis.

02:46:14.000 They attacked me yesterday.

02:46:15.000 What is Gawker, one of the biggest gossip sites, doing going after me?

02:46:19.000 Why are all these major magazines, newspapers, BBC Today, Wall Street Journal, doing these hit pieces?

02:46:26.000 Psychology Today?

02:46:27.000 Because they're scared, folks.

02:46:28.000 They know we're telling the truth.

02:46:30.000 We know we're reaching the people.

02:46:32.000 And with big, you know, pop icons like these folks who are very well-known.

02:46:37.000 I didn't know how well-known, the whole office knows them.

02:46:39.000 Especially Jaron in there.

02:46:41.000 This is really exciting because they're getting into real issues, serious issues.

02:46:45.000 And you were telling me, Spencer, during the break, that you've got a new music album coming up.

02:46:51.000 And tell folks the title of it.

02:46:52.000 Yeah, Heidi and I both partnered with Warner Music Group and we're distributing albums and my first rap album is going to be called InfoWars and my first single, I'm pretty sure it's going to be called The Patriot Act.

02:47:04.000 Regardless of the title of the first single, I would love it Mr. Jones if you would get your megaphone out and come surprise the song with that extra momentum that it needs.

02:47:16.000 Sure, just send me a script and I'll bullhorn it and send you a recording of it if that'll work for you.

02:47:21.000 Anything to get the truth out to the people and reach the population.

02:47:26.000 I think you're going to get a lot of feedback from this show today, and so that's why I want to have you back in the next few days and talk about the feedback you get from people in the media, your friends, your colleagues, but also your fans.

02:47:37.000 Tell us, the listeners out there, about your websites and Twitter accounts.

02:47:41.000 Uh, well, my Twitter is, uh, at Spencer Pratt, and my wife's is at Heidi Montag, but the only thing anybody should be paying attention to is at Infowars, because we are running out of time.

02:47:54.000 I, I feel, I'm so sorry to America that I have distracted you for, uh, two and a half years with all of mine and my wife's antics that you know we're all about our selfishness and about our own fame and you know our own success when we should have been way more concerned about the success of america and what it stands for and you know the issues that are so much more important than any of the things i've ever talked about in the media what they do is

02:48:19.000 they use your obsession with who you are and how you look to put that same obsession on other people so that we're all so obsessed with how we look and what we're saying and so insecure that we can't ever see the wider world around Heidi, comments on that?

02:48:32.000 I definitely agree with that and you know with just this whole media and with all the girls and how you're supposed to look and you know the truth is these people in the media wouldn't even act like that if it wasn't their job.

02:48:47.000 You know it's our job now to really inform people and to step back from that and to educate people and you know there are kids who listen and these kids need to secure their own future because no one's going to do it for you and these people are just snakes coming out and it's very sad and it's very painful to watch and you know I'm just really really praying for America and I'm really praying for this world because

02:49:11.000 It's a very sad, vapid, shallow world that they've put everyone into the only thing they care about.

02:49:17.000 I mean... It is.

02:49:18.000 It's very, very shallow.

02:49:19.000 In the meanwhile, we're in the ice-cold, you know, thousand-league-deep New World Order ocean, focused on this mile-wide, inch-deep mainstream media.

02:49:31.000 In closing, tell folks about your current TV show.

02:49:34.000 Are we going to see any of these messages on the show, or are they going to edit that out?

02:49:38.000 No, they would definitely edit that out, because it's only about The drama in our lives and with other characters and storyline.

02:49:47.000 But we will definitely try to get this message out wherever we can, whenever we can, and as often as we can.

02:49:53.000 And we're just, our thoughts and prayers are with you too.

02:49:55.000 And we thank you for everything that you've done and for being a true patriot that this country needs way more men like you.

02:50:02.000 And we are grateful for you dedicating your life to this.

02:50:05.000 And we have two new videos and you've been doing this for a long time.

02:50:08.000 And you know, keep going.

02:50:11.000 Okay, well, we'll stay in touch in the next few days, because I think this is going to probably be pretty big in the media.

02:50:16.000 That's great, because all these young people that are focused on you guys will now, you know, find out some of what you're saying behind the scenes that they don't see on the different television shows like The Hills You Do.

02:50:27.000 But Heidi Montag and, of course, Spencer Pratt, we appreciate both of you joining us.

02:50:32.000 MySpace.com forward slash Spencer Pratt is also another site we saw.

02:50:37.000 Thank you so much for spending time with us.

02:50:39.000 We'll talk to you soon.

02:50:41.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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