Alex Jones Show - 20090728_Tue_Alex

00:00:01.000 ...and for other associates of C-Street, the secretive ministry and living quarters for several members of Congress, at which Governor Sanford and Senator John Enson of Nevada both received some sort of counseling during their extramarital affairs.

00:00:15.000 A number of other C-Street affiliates are now going on the record about the shadowy organization, mainly to defend its secrecy.

00:00:23.000 Senator Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma telling Roll Call newspaper, quote, it's a great place, and vowing to continue holding foreign policy meetings with African ambassadors at the C Street House.

00:00:35.000 Former Ohio Congressman Tony Hall tells Politico.com the prayer breakfasts he attended at C Street were, quote, probably some of the best moments I had during the week, precisely because we closed the doors.

00:00:48.000 Sea Street is also in the news anew because of something that happened on the House floor last week.

00:00:53.000 A member of Congress, one with ties to Sea Street, argued against public funding for abortion services by saying that if there were public funding for abortion, Barack Obama might have been aborted as a fetus.

00:01:07.000 Also, Clarence Thomas.

00:01:10.000 If you think of it in human terms, There is a financial incentive that will be put in place, paid for by tax dollars, that will encourage women who are single parents, living below the poverty level, to have the opportunity for a free abortion.

00:01:29.000 If you take that scenario and apply it to many of the great minds we have today, who would we have been deprived of?

00:01:37.000 Our President grew up in those similar circumstances.

00:01:41.000 If that financial incentive was in place, is it possible that his mother may have taken advantage of it?

00:01:47.000 Clarence Thomas, Supreme Court Justice, if those circumstances were in place, is it possible that we would have denied his great mind?

00:01:57.000 It's Representative Todd T. Hart, Republican of Kansas.

00:02:00.000 I wonder how he settled on those two.

00:02:03.000 Clarence Thomas and Barack Obama.

00:02:05.000 What do they have in common?

00:02:08.000 Congressman Teahart was first elected as part of the Republican Revolution in 1994.

00:02:12.000 He is now running for the United States Senate in Kansas.

00:02:15.000 Joining us now is Jeff Charlotte, who wrote about Congressman Teahart.

00:02:19.000 Everybody knows the war is over.

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00:02:29.000 Hello, folks.

00:02:31.000 Here in the last two hours of the radio show today, we're simulcasting at PrisonPlanet.tv in living color.

00:02:36.000 I want to thank all the PrisonPlanet.tv members for joining us, and all the AM and FM shortwave satellite internet listeners as well, and the folks listening to the free podcast later at InfoWars.com.

00:02:49.000 Jeff Charlotte.

00:02:50.000 I've seen him on a lot of national TV programs and I read an article he wrote for the New York Times.

00:02:56.000 He is a New York Times best-selling author of The Family, The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power.

00:03:03.000 I actually saw an article about him in the New York Times.

00:03:06.000 And a contributing editor to Harper's and Rolling Stone, has been writing about the intersection of religion, politics, and culture for more than a decade.

00:03:14.000 His writing on religion has earned him praise from writers, and it goes on from there.

00:03:20.000 His new book is The Family, and we've got that up on screen for everybody.

00:03:25.000 The secret fundamentalism at the heart of American power.

00:03:28.000 He's here with us for most of the hour, then wide open phones coming up At the end of the hour, and in the fourth hour, covering the flu hype and NLEO-9, Marshall Laudrell's going on.

00:03:40.000 So that's coming up.

00:03:41.000 Jeff, thank you for coming on with us.

00:03:43.000 Hey Alex, thanks for having me.

00:03:45.000 It's a real honor.

00:03:46.000 You bet, an honor to have you.

00:03:47.000 I wanted to play Rachel Maddow, kind of breaking down what you were going over.

00:03:52.000 First, tell us about yourself, how you got interested in this, about this group on K Street.

00:04:01.000 This, the family, and then how it ties into Ashcroft's group, the Brotherhood, that's also out of another house, or the same house.

00:04:09.000 It all gets confusing.

00:04:11.000 There's other secretive right-wing Christian groups, like the Council on National Policy.

00:04:18.000 There's a lot of different organizations, and I haven't studied them all, but I've tried to look at some of them.

00:04:22.000 Tell us, tell us about how you woke up to this group.

00:04:26.000 Well, uh, Professor Tate's, uh, C Street, not K Street, and, you know... C Street!

00:04:31.000 There you go.

00:04:34.000 Yes, the Avenue of Influence in Washington, I think we've got it now.

00:04:38.000 Yeah, the lobbyist.

00:04:38.000 I had a Freudian slip.

00:04:39.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:04:40.000 Yeah, exactly, whether they're acting like it or not.

00:04:43.000 Uh, you know, it began, I was, uh, several years ago, I was working on, uh, My first book, I was traveling around the country and spending time with unusual religious communities, and a friend of mine, worried that her brother had joined a cult, said, would you meet with him?

00:04:58.000 This was way back in 2011.

00:05:01.000 And so this guy came up. 0.99

00:05:02.000 I'd known him for 12 years, and frankly, he'd always been kind of a jerk. 0.97

00:05:06.000 But he had really turned his life around, despite the fact that he left his career, left his relationship to move to Washington and be of service to powerful people. 0.97

00:05:16.000 And he said, look, you won't understand it unless you see it.

00:05:18.000 And you can't get in unless you're invited.

00:05:20.000 And I said, well, how do I apply?

00:05:21.000 And he said, there are no applications.

00:05:23.000 There's just a family.

00:05:25.000 So I found it interesting to me, not as a believer, but just as a person who is interested about the variety of the religious experience, you might say.

00:05:34.000 So I went down and spent about a month living with these guys.

00:05:38.000 And I didn't know it was political at first, but then we had a visit from Senator Jesse Helms.

00:05:44.000 Well wait a minute, I mean this doesn't sound, and I'm not defending the group because I don't even know enough about it to even get its name right, but C Street, the family, C Street's the name, and obviously the house.

00:05:57.000 If it's such a cult, and I do agree it looks pretty culty, why did they just let you right in then?

00:06:03.000 You know, first of all, I actually say that they are not a cult.

00:06:06.000 I don't think they are cultish, but not a cult.

00:06:08.000 You know, because a cult has certain characteristics.

00:06:10.000 They are cultish.

00:06:12.000 They've got the cult of personality around their leader, Doug Coe.

00:06:15.000 But what they really believe, they really believe in the sort of networks of elites.

00:06:20.000 And so because I was invited, that's the only way you get in.

00:06:22.000 You get invited.

00:06:23.000 So because I was invited by this guy, that made me sort of okay.

00:06:28.000 And I think they were actually interested in the fact uh... that i'm a journal the writer because they saw me as an influence as someone who in uh... help spread the message so they but i had me into the house i've ever really wrote about the carper magazine if anyone's been out there being skeptical that all went through fact checking legal review never been disputed lived with these guys for a month okay but i mean they're pretty confident then about the way they operate the way they work to let a prominent journalist into their midst i wouldn't say i was prominent at that point

00:06:58.000 You know, they've been around for 70 years.

00:07:00.000 They do believe in secrecy.

00:07:01.000 The leader of the group, Doug Coe, says the more invisible you can make your organization, the more influence it will have.

00:07:07.000 Okay, so you did infiltrate to a certain level, so this is cultish then.

00:07:13.000 Yeah, oh, it's absolutely cultish.

00:07:15.000 I mean, uh, you know, there's a cult of personality around this guy Doug Coe, whom they sometimes call First Brother.

00:07:21.000 They say he has a special relationship with God, unparalleled by anyone else in the world.

00:07:25.000 Uh, and that, uh, also that the Inner Circle members, and here's where it gets really creepy when we're talking about Senator and Governor Sanford, guys linked to the group, The Inner Circle members are not bound by the same morality that applies to the rest of us.

00:07:39.000 The morality is a human construct, and God has a different story ready for these powerful men.

00:07:46.000 Now is this the same group that Ashcroft's part of?

00:07:48.000 Because I saw articles like four or five years ago about, and did some research, about Ashcroft, part of a house he lived at, and other people that were members.

00:07:56.000 I mean, is this the only group like this, or are you aware of others?

00:08:00.000 No, you're thinking of Ashcroft.

00:08:01.000 I've been writing about this for a while.

00:08:05.000 John Ashcroft, I lived with him for a month and then discovered they had dumped 600 boxes of documents unorganized.

00:08:11.000 They hadn't even sifted through them in Billy Graham's archives.

00:08:14.000 So that was your article I did read about how they don't really care about abortion and they like Machiavelli, wasn't it?

00:08:20.000 I mean, I'm going from memory here.

00:08:22.000 Not much social issues.

00:08:23.000 John Ashcroft, I found letters dating back to the early 1980s.

00:08:27.000 John Ashcroft was writing to the leader of the group, Doug Coe, for his brother, saying that he wanted to get involved and could he be helped.

00:08:34.000 And that's what the family has done historically.

00:08:36.000 They've identified guys that they think they can work with and then they groom them and sort of raise them up the political ladder.

00:08:43.000 Doug Coe, the leader of the group, he likes to say, we work with power where we can, build new power where we can't.

00:08:49.000 And that means that they've got a lot of political allies in Washington.

00:08:52.000 Sounds like a political religious fraternity.

00:08:57.000 Very much so, very much so.

00:08:59.000 Okay, well I know I'm throwing a lot of points in here because over the years I've done research here, there, but you forget a lot more than you, you know.

00:09:07.000 Then you can actually comprehend, but I know there's all these weird secretive groups.

00:09:11.000 Did you ever run into any connections in this group with Masons, Masonic groups, or with Opus Dei Catholic groups, or with the CNP, Council on National Policy?

00:09:26.000 There's a lot of overlap with the CNP, guys like Ed Meese and various members like that.

00:09:32.000 But one of the most interesting connections I did find was Opus Dei.

00:09:35.000 And you might almost describe the family as kind of a Protestant Opus Dei, but they lack even the integrity of Opus Dei.

00:09:41.000 But they originally were very interested in working in Spain, working around the world.

00:09:50.000 The dictator for a long time, his name was Franco, and he was not interested in having any Protestant groups around. 0.97

00:09:56.000 Uh, until they made contact with the ministers of government, Opus Dei members, and then started building up a network of alliances.

00:10:04.000 From our research, I got to spend a lot of time with Senator Sam Roundback of Kansas, who has the unique distinction of being a member of the family and an associate of Opus Dei.

00:10:12.000 He converted to a very strange kind of Catholicism through Opus Dei's chapel, which, appropriately enough, actually is on K Street in Washington.

00:10:22.000 Okay, see, those are the questions I haven't seen asked on television.

00:10:24.000 I've read your articles over the years and haven't read your book yet, though we just got it.

00:10:28.000 And so I've got a piece here, a piece there, and I'm trying to delve more into the architecture of left-wing and right-wing groups.

00:10:36.000 Did you ever run into any connections to Bohemian Grove? 0.97

00:10:39.000 Because a lot of, quote, Christian conservatives that have these big public personas as Christian conservatives also go to the Grove that Richard Nixon described as a homosexual orgy. 0.78

00:10:51.000 I don't know about that part, but Doug Coe certainly is a long-time, Doug Coe, the leader of the group, is a long-time attendee. 0.73

00:10:59.000 And, you know, certainly we're talking about here, you know, guys like Ed Meese, former Attorney General Ashcroft, Senator Enst, and we're talking about the power elite.

00:11:08.000 And so they do go to Bohemian Grove.

00:11:10.000 There is a Vatican connection, there is a Bohemian Grove connection.

00:11:14.000 It's just always the same.

00:11:16.000 Well, you know, I'm actually wary of calling that a Vatican connection.

00:11:20.000 I would call that an Opus Dei connection.

00:11:21.000 I think Opus Dei is a little bit distinct.

00:11:24.000 I mean, you know, look, mainstream American Catholicism, I have no issue with that whatsoever.

00:11:29.000 Oh, hey, I'm not here bashing any groups either.

00:11:31.000 I mean, this is a secular radio show.

00:11:33.000 I'm trying to see how all these groups tie together.

00:11:39.000 Wow, well listen, I'm gonna try to let you roll when we get back.

00:11:42.000 I just wanted to ask some questions that I haven't heard asked of you before.

00:11:45.000 And it's really great having you here with us.

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00:16:37.000 Going back to the author of The Family, Jeff Charlotte.

00:16:41.000 And this is just a bottomless pit of weirdness, but he's a great journalist, writes for Harper's.

00:16:48.000 And for the New York Times as well.

00:16:51.000 I saw an article in the New York Times, he writes for Harper's and Rolling Stone.

00:16:54.000 The reason I was bringing up Harper's is actually Harper's had the interview with Nixon when he was talking about the Bohemian Grove.

00:17:01.000 And so that was where my quote from that came.

00:17:04.000 Okay, you got the floor.

00:17:05.000 This is a short segment, long segment coming up.

00:17:07.000 Start at the beginning.

00:17:11.000 You get to get inside there.

00:17:13.000 You've written articles about how it's not really Christian, though, From not wanting to stop abortion and saying we like Machiavelli, I'm going from memory here, but a lot of weird stuff.

00:17:22.000 What is it really?

00:17:23.000 Some type of strange intelligence front?

00:17:26.000 Because just in a snapshot, that's what it looks like to me.

00:17:29.000 You know, it goes back, it begins in 1935.

00:17:33.000 They organize Abram Brady believes that he has a vision that God comes to him and speaks to him.

00:17:38.000 Tells him that Christianity has been getting it wrong for 2,000 years and any focus on the poor, the weak, the suffering, the down and out, That's not right.

00:17:46.000 What God wants him to be is a missionary to and for the powerful, the up-and-out, he calls them.

00:17:52.000 He begins organizing guys like Henry Ford and a group of congressmen.

00:17:57.000 He gets some businessmen together.

00:17:59.000 He starts out in the state of Washington.

00:18:01.000 They manage to elect a governor, and on that basis, they start going overseas.

00:18:06.000 They're involved with the whitewashing of Nazis after World War II, and then they start Excuse me? 0.74

00:18:12.000 Excuse me, something about Nazis?

00:18:14.000 Yeah, yeah, I'm afraid so.

00:18:15.000 It's always suspicious when someone talks about that stuff, but... No it's not!

00:18:19.000 I mean, you mentioned Henry Ford!

00:18:22.000 Well, they were very sympathetic.

00:18:23.000 See, they began with this idea.

00:18:25.000 You know, not only did God want them to serve the powerful instead of the powerless, but they began with this idea.

00:18:31.000 They were looking around the world in the 1930s, and they thought democracy was done.

00:18:34.000 They said democracy cannot compete with fascism and communism.

00:18:38.000 Well, communism was definitely not for them.

00:18:40.000 These were very wealthy businessmen.

00:18:42.000 And fascism looked pretty good. 0.96

00:18:44.000 But they didn't like it, or they didn't like Mussolini, so they said, well, we're going to do a totalitarianism for Christ, which is sort of missing the point of the Christian message, but that was their approach.

00:18:54.000 And they started recruiting a lot of American fascist sympathizers, and over the years have, when they go and make alliances with foreign dictators, they look for guys who exemplify that model.

00:19:05.000 Doug Coe, the leader of the group, He likes to say to Congress, who were the three men in the 20th century who best understood the message of the New Testament?

00:19:13.000 And maybe you say something like Dietrich Bonhoeffer or Martin Luther King, or maybe you're more conservative than you say Billy Graham.

00:19:20.000 He says, no, no, no.

00:19:21.000 He says, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

00:19:23.000 And he says, what they understood is that the New Testament...

00:19:26.000 And this is their reading.

00:19:27.000 It's not about love or mercy or injustice or forgiveness.

00:19:31.000 It's about power.

00:19:32.000 And those guys understood power.

00:19:34.000 So you want to model yourself on power.

00:19:37.000 Another sermon you can find actually online on the website of the Navigators, a Christian right group.

00:19:42.000 They have an audio sermon of Ko saying, you know how Jesus said, You've got to put me before your mother, father, brother, sister.

00:19:49.000 Hitler, Mao, that's what they taught the kids, direct quote.

00:19:53.000 Mao even had the kids killing the parents, but it wasn't murder, Steve, because it was for building the new nation, the new kingdom.

00:19:59.000 My God, this guy!

00:20:01.000 Hold on, I mean, this is incredible, and you were there, this is published, it's in your book, and I'm familiar with the fake right-wing Chicago School of Business, all of this, Milton Friedman, you know, the same social...

00:20:18.000 And that's why they like Machiavelli.

00:20:29.000 But see, it's all interconnected.

00:20:31.000 I didn't know they were into Straussian.

00:20:32.000 I just knew it fit with the Chicago school. 0.88

00:20:35.000 Man, these people are just monstrous.

00:20:38.000 But Obama has got a bunch of the Straussians pulling his strings. 1.00

00:20:42.000 He's got some family guys in there too.

00:20:44.000 General Jim Jones, who's one of his close advisors.

00:20:49.000 Oh my God, General James L. Jones?

00:20:52.000 The head of the National Security Council?

00:20:55.000 The real government?

00:20:57.000 I'll tell you one that's a little bit crazier.

00:20:59.000 She's not a member of the group.

00:21:00.000 She's what they call a friend of the group, and they're very careful about those distinctions.

00:21:05.000 She says of Doug Coe, this man I'll just quote in this language by Hillary now, she says he's a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide.

00:21:11.000 She says she turned to him when she first came to Washington in 1994.

00:21:15.000 Who am I talking about but none other than Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

00:21:19.000 Oh my gosh.

00:21:20.000 Hold on, let me stop you. 0.95

00:21:21.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

00:21:22.000 So it's bipartisan.

00:21:23.000 Hold on.

00:21:24.000 We got a break.

00:21:25.000 This is blowing me away.

00:21:26.000 We're going to do the full hour with you.

00:21:27.000 Two long segments coming up.

00:21:28.000 That was a short one.

00:21:29.000 See, the problem is, I haven't read the book yet.

00:21:31.000 I've read a lot of your news articles.

00:21:33.000 A lot of what's in there I've confirmed separate places over the years, so I know you're telling the truth.

00:21:38.000 Plus, they admit you went there and lived there.

00:21:41.000 So, but it's just all these dots just connected.

00:21:45.000 And people kept asking me about CMP, CMP, CMP.

00:21:48.000 I didn't really know much about it.

00:21:50.000 Now, now I know.

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00:24:58.000 Okay, I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest.

00:25:22.000 I'm gonna be honest with listeners.

00:25:24.000 A lot of times when I have a guest on, I'm focused, I've got notes, I've got a bunch of facts.

00:25:29.000 A few days ago, I saw Mr. Charlotte on Rachel Maddow.

00:25:33.000 I was back in the break room drinking coffee and eating dinner, up here working on a film, and I said, I've read his stuff before.

00:25:40.000 Yeah, I know about Ashcroft and all those guys in this group, and I've been doing some more research on that.

00:25:46.000 I want to get him on. 0.98

00:25:47.000 But Maddow was making it a left-right thing, and about how these guys are all cheating on their wives, and how they're hypocrites. 0.96

00:25:53.000 And I was like, I've read his articles and other articles about this group, how it's all Machiavellian, and the end justifies the means, and dictators, and strongmen, and I go, man, that fits into Chicago school, and the neocons, and, you know, this whole sick philosophy. 0.86

00:26:12.000 That the Globalist is kind of used to get well-meaning men to do evil things.

00:26:17.000 The higher-up psychopaths are using it as a control system, and it's one of many groups.

00:26:22.000 But certainly, then as he made the connections to even more powerful organizations, and I guess there is something to this, you know, I don't get too obsessed on this group or that group.

00:26:32.000 I've found if it's CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, Then it's every other group.

00:26:39.000 The leadership of these groups are the leadership of all the other groups.

00:26:43.000 And so it's kind of an interlocking directorate.

00:26:45.000 But I'll be honest, now that I heard him roll with info I'd never heard him say on the shows because they always compartmentalize it.

00:26:53.000 It made all these connections because You've got other secretive right-wing groups, like the CMP, and I've had guests on over the years that mention that.

00:27:03.000 I thought of it more as a right-wing think tank that were globalists, but it also had some anti-globalists in it, like the Hunt brothers, so that confused me.

00:27:12.000 And I don't think anything's the top of the pyramid.

00:27:14.000 I think at the top of the pyramid it's all these groups nexusing in.

00:27:18.000 But then I didn't know there was an Opus Dei connection.

00:27:21.000 I just threw it out there.

00:27:22.000 He said yes and listened to the names.

00:27:25.000 And then a Pentagon connection with the head of national security, which really is the real shadow government, James L. Jones, and the Chicago school, and the neocons.

00:27:36.000 And so you just blew me away.

00:27:38.000 You just got my attention.

00:27:40.000 And so I want to get more into the Opus Dei connection, more of the national security connection.

00:27:44.000 Take your time on Hillary as a friend.

00:27:48.000 Take your time on their missions, their operations, what they're doing worldwide.

00:27:52.000 I know you covered all in the book.

00:27:53.000 I've read part of it just out.

00:27:55.000 And already a bestseller, The Family, Jeff Charlotte.

00:27:57.000 But Jeff, go ahead.

00:27:59.000 Run through it all, give us the key information here, and bottom line, just from knowing what I know about separate groups that nexus in, this does sound pretty sinister.

00:28:12.000 Yeah, I'm glad you're saying this, Alex, and I think you're exactly right.

00:28:15.000 We never want to make the mistake of saying there's one group that controls it all.

00:28:18.000 There's multiple power bases, and the point I'm trying to make here is that the family is one of the most influential power bases, and yet it hasn't been measured.

00:28:27.000 A sociologist, conservative sociologist, actually, as it happens down there in Texas at Rice University, did a survey of 360 politicians in Washington asking them to name the religious group that is most influential.

00:28:42.000 One in three named the family.

00:28:44.000 That's more than any other group got.

00:28:47.000 That was more votes than James Dawson's focus on the family, more than any other group.

00:28:51.000 They named the family, and what's crazy about this is the family denies that they exist.

00:28:55.000 If you call up the leader of the group, as I had NBC News do last year where I did a segment with them, and they said, oh, no, there's nothing to see here.

00:29:03.000 We don't exist.

00:29:03.000 There is no group.

00:29:04.000 It's just a group of friends.

00:29:06.000 Fortunately, I've already shared with NBC News their tax records.

00:29:10.000 There's 600 boxes of documents that show, I think, something that does indeed go beyond left and right.

00:29:16.000 This is a group about power.

00:29:18.000 Again, I'll just repeat that saying that they have, we work with power where we can, build new power where we can't.

00:29:23.000 What that means is, Unlike some right-wing groups that are just sort of extensions of the Republican Party, the family wants connections to Democrats as well.

00:29:33.000 One is Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas, a pro-war Democrat from Arkansas.

00:29:41.000 So they're apolitical.

00:29:42.000 They want power.

00:29:43.000 No, no, no.

00:29:43.000 They're not apolitical.

00:29:44.000 They're not apolitical.

00:29:45.000 I wouldn't say that.

00:29:46.000 They want power.

00:29:47.000 They have some specific ends.

00:29:49.000 One is they believe in sort of a free market fundamentalism.

00:29:52.000 Well, by apolitical I meant they don't care about labels.

00:29:57.000 They don't care about labels.

00:29:58.000 They care about power.

00:29:59.000 Right.

00:29:59.000 They care about power and their agenda.

00:30:00.000 And their agenda is two things.

00:30:02.000 It's free market fundamentalism, and it's American empire.

00:30:04.000 That's what they've been working on for 70 years, and I heard the lead-in, so you may appreciate this.

00:30:11.000 Back in 1945, the leader of the group, Abraham Brady, I believe coined this phrase.

00:30:16.000 I believe he may have been the first one to use it, although I think you'll know if I'm wrong.

00:30:19.000 He said, there's a coming new world order.

00:30:23.000 Wow!

00:30:24.000 1945, that is documented in their archives.

00:30:29.000 I don't think he coined it, but the fact that he used it.

00:30:34.000 Hitler used it, H.G. 0.99

00:30:35.000 Wells wrote a book called The New World Order.

00:30:37.000 He was an interesting admirer of Hitler. 0.96

00:30:43.000 Basically they said, what we're aiming for is a form of totalitarianism.

00:30:50.000 They said, how about a fascist dictatorship?

00:30:52.000 Yeah.

00:30:52.000 No, Hitler is one of the earliest.

00:30:54.000 You can't find... Right around the same time Hitler starts using it, then H.G. 0.90

00:30:59.000 Wells uses it, but they both wanted different forms of socialism.

00:31:03.000 Hitler a more fascist form, though they're supposedly on different ends of the spectrum.

00:31:07.000 National Socialists, the Nazis. 0.91

00:31:10.000 And then Hitler wanted to have somebody kidnap and kill H.G. 0.88

00:31:13.000 Wells.

00:31:14.000 So, like you said, there's competing... there's competing factions.

00:31:18.000 But to go ahead.

00:31:20.000 Well, I mean, you know, that's what, you know, when I said the bottom line of the American empire, and that's what led them into alliances, you know, we were talking before the break about their role in sort of whitewashing the records of former Nazis.

00:31:34.000 One was a guy named Hermann J. Abt, who was vice president of the German operation after the war, became known as the Wizard of the West German Miracle.

00:31:42.000 Oh my, so we have a Nazi connection with money coming over?

00:31:45.000 that before he was Germany's banker, he was the man known as Hitler's banker.

00:31:49.000 He, in fact, had helped spirit away untold amounts of German money to the Nazis to escape to South America.

00:31:57.000 Oh, my.

00:31:57.000 So we have a Nazi connection with money coming over?

00:32:01.000 Because we know the Bushes with Prescott have that connection.

00:32:05.000 Well, there's more than that.

00:32:06.000 The head of their Swiss operation after the war was a banker named Alfred Herz, who used the family and its access to American politicians to come over and lobby for America to lay off all the money that, of course, they had stolen.

00:32:21.000 from the Swiss banks that's stolen from the Jews who had been killed, and the so-called Nazi gold. 0.50

00:32:27.000 We forget that there were actually early attempts to investigate that stuff, and Alfred Herz, working through congressmen like Senator Alexander Wiley from Wisconsin and others, was able to lobby successfully using this group's network.

00:32:40.000 That's really what this group is.

00:32:42.000 Wait a minute.

00:32:42.000 This is the group that blocked the investigation of the rat line and the gold and diamonds?

00:32:47.000 I said they were a group, yes.

00:32:48.000 You know, I think you made an important point.

00:32:50.000 There's no single group controlling all this stuff, but there's lots of different power bases in Washington.

00:32:55.000 Yeah, it's like a swarm of viruses or something.

00:32:58.000 It's a whole bunch of them, but going in the same direction.

00:33:01.000 More power, more control.

00:33:03.000 Specifically, let's get more into that history, but can you backtrack?

00:33:06.000 Because I read your articles years ago, and Harper's and Rolling Stone.

00:33:10.000 Because I remember just reading this and then going and Googling some of it and finding that, you know, you were telling the truth because it was so shocking.

00:33:17.000 about their philosophy and we don't care about abortion we want Jesus wants power we don't care about you know this and that we like Machiavelli I mean this sounds like a psycho cult masquerading as Christians Well, let me give you a quote. 0.75

00:33:34.000 This is from the news, and we had in that lead-in, we had Congressman Todd Fiore talking about abortion.

00:33:39.000 It's not that they don't care about those issues.

00:33:41.000 The group tends to be pretty right-wing conservative, so they care.

00:33:44.000 This is not their bottom line.

00:33:45.000 Their bottom line is American empire.

00:33:47.000 But one time I was at the C Street House.

00:33:49.000 This is the house in Washington where they're providing below-market housing for congressmen.

00:33:53.000 Republicans and Democrats, by the way.

00:33:55.000 This is a bipartisan thing.

00:33:57.000 This is bipartisan power-lust, you might say.

00:34:01.000 And I was there, and Doug Coe, the leader of the group, was counseling Congressman Todd Teahart.

00:34:05.000 And Todd Teahart had come in.

00:34:07.000 Todd Teahart is not what you would call an enlightened man.

00:34:10.000 He said he was concerned that the Christian was losing the race with the Muslim.

00:34:16.000 You know, he said, what is this guy talking about? 0.99

00:34:18.000 This is crazy. 0.98

00:34:19.000 What he meant was, he said that Muslims are having too many babies, while Christians are not having enough.

00:34:25.000 So it turns out, Pihar represents himself as an ardent foe of abortion.

00:34:29.000 What he means is abortion for Christians.

00:34:30.000 He doesn't care if Muslims have abortions.

00:34:33.000 In fact, he would like that.

00:34:34.000 Well, now Doug Powell, listening to this, says, okay, yeah, I hear you talking about this abortion issue.

00:34:39.000 You know, I sort of agree with you on that, and that's fine, but I want you to think bigger.

00:34:44.000 What I want you to do is to think in terms of a covenant.

00:34:47.000 Describe the covenant as something that men of power enter into secretly, privately.

00:34:53.000 He calls it a publicly invisible but privately identifiable group of companions.

00:34:58.000 That's in their official document.

00:35:00.000 It's a covenant.

00:35:00.000 He says, with a covenant, you can do so much more.

00:35:02.000 He says, think of men with a covenant.

00:35:04.000 He says, think of the mafia.

00:35:06.000 And then I'm just direct quoting here.

00:35:07.000 Here's his examples of where he looks for his leadership lessons.

00:35:11.000 Hitler, Pol Pot, Osama bin Laden, and Lenin. 0.72

00:35:15.000 So all we can see here is that he was an equal opportunity admirer of killers.

00:35:19.000 Good Lord.

00:35:20.000 But again, when you're saying all of this, I'm thinking about the Straussian economists and philosophers.

00:35:28.000 I'm thinking about the Chicago school, the Rockefellers.

00:35:32.000 The Rockefellers similarly funded other schools of thought.

00:35:35.000 Do you ever run into Rockefeller foundations or Rockefeller money in all this?

00:35:40.000 Rockefeller, and there may be more, but in the early days of the family, you know, the Rockefeller Foundation, of course, has gone through a lot of different incarnations, you know.

00:35:48.000 At one point it was essentially almost a fund for CIA money, and that's been documented pretty well.

00:35:54.000 And it founded Modern Eugenics.

00:35:56.000 Yeah, in the early days they were indeed giving the family, which was then known as International Christian Leadership, they changed their name every few years, they say, to avoid scrutiny, basically.

00:36:09.000 But he gave some money to them to get started.

00:36:12.000 I mean, you really see all the titans of American commerce.

00:36:15.000 Well, you always have the Rockefellers. 0.98

00:36:16.000 I mean, discovering cancer viruses, Rockefellers, setting up them. 1.00

00:36:20.000 I mean, the whole system was set up by these people.

00:36:23.000 See, I didn't know that.

00:36:24.000 You're the expert.

00:36:25.000 Of course, they're involved.

00:36:26.000 It's kind of like you lift up a stone and that's where you find the bugs.

00:36:29.000 But look, other key points.

00:36:30.000 I'm interrupting.

00:36:31.000 This just gets more insane.

00:36:33.000 Is their power getting greater?

00:36:34.000 Is it waning?

00:36:36.000 Do you get threats?

00:36:38.000 I mean, what is it like?

00:36:42.000 I tell you, I mean, this is almost maybe the comic section of the book, you know, because I'd first written about this in Harper's.

00:36:47.000 So in Chapter 9 of the book, The Family, I talk about some of the early reactions.

00:36:51.000 One was the speaking engagement in Germany.

00:36:54.000 Get over there. 0.77

00:36:55.000 Turns out the whole speaking series is paid for by the U.S.

00:36:57.000 Embassy.

00:36:58.000 Get off the plane.

00:36:59.000 My German host says, you know, there's a problem.

00:37:01.000 Your ambassador says that he cannot pay for you because you are an enemy of Jesus.

00:37:05.000 This is the ambassador of the United States.

00:37:08.000 Who is it?

00:37:09.000 It's a guy named Senator Dan Coat.

00:37:11.000 Not the brightest bulb on the porch.

00:37:12.000 He considers Dan Quayle his mentor.

00:37:15.000 A guy so off the charts that when Bush proposed him for Secretary of Defense, Cheney vetoed him as too fanatical.

00:37:24.000 That's that kind of guy.

00:37:25.000 But the more, even one of the odder responses was a phone call I get from one day from a guy who's an executive for the oil company Pride Former, a very big international company involved in this stuff.

00:37:37.000 He's calling me from Angola.

00:37:39.000 Says he's just a fan of my work.

00:37:40.000 Isn't that great?

00:37:41.000 A call from Angola from a fan of my work.

00:37:44.000 As we talk for a good long while, it turns out he's a member of the family.

00:37:49.000 He's actually trying to recruit me back into it.

00:37:51.000 So I try and get some counter-arguments.

00:37:53.000 I said, what about the family's involvement in Indonesia?

00:37:56.000 The dictator Fajardo killed 1.2 million of his own people.

00:38:00.000 And his only counter-argument is, that must be what God wanted for Indonesia. 0.60

00:38:04.000 1.2 million people dead.

00:38:06.000 That was God's will.

00:38:08.000 The truth is, they're playing God.

00:38:10.000 That's what this whole power trip's about.

00:38:12.000 Yeah, you know, it was very well put to me by... I did an interview with someone from the Cato Institute, which is a very conservative think tank in Washington, and they really believe in free markets, and so I thought they weren't going to like the book, but they looked at it and said, these guys aren't talking about free markets.

00:38:27.000 There's nothing free about this.

00:38:29.000 This is crony capitalism.

00:38:30.000 The phrase they used, I thought, was really just bid on was self-interest by proxy.

00:38:34.000 These guys get together in a small group.

00:38:36.000 That's what a prayer cell is.

00:38:37.000 That's what Senator Anson, who we've been hearing about, Governor Stanford, those guys, Senator Coburn, they get together in a prayer cell.

00:38:43.000 They don't actually read the Bible.

00:38:44.000 I've been there for these things.

00:38:45.000 They don't actually study the Bible.

00:38:47.000 One man will say, you know, I have a message from Jesus.

00:38:49.000 I think Jesus gave me a message for you.

00:38:51.000 And in the case of Senator Anson and Coburn, the message seemed to be pay your minister some hush money to keep yourself out of the public eye.

00:39:00.000 You know, the one thing that's really important about that whole scandal that you mentioned talking about on Maddow and so on, and folks on the sex scandal of the Republicans, the more important thing is that I don't care about their sex scandal.

00:39:10.000 Exactly!

00:39:11.000 The question is, I don't want you to get in a fight with Maddow, but why does the media always make it left to right?

00:39:18.000 Uh, uh, pushing the story.

00:39:19.000 I mean, this story's been around for a while, and I'm not... Every now and then, someone makes an attempt.

00:39:23.000 The Los Angeles Times did a year-long investigation in 2002, published their results, incredible stuff, linking the family to Central American death squads, all kinds of stuff.

00:39:33.000 Expected, you know, waited for the Pulitzer, the Pulitzer Prize winning reporter did it.

00:39:36.000 Not a peep!

00:39:38.000 Last year I did a segment with NBC Nightly News with Andrea Mitchell hosting and we had Hillary Clinton talking about her involvement.

00:39:45.000 We had video of Doug Coe talking about the great leadership example of the fellowship that he tries to promote is like that one enjoyed by Hitler, Himmler, and Goering.

00:39:55.000 And, you know, NBC thought they had the scoop of the campaign season, not a peep.

00:40:00.000 Because our American political press, they're religiously illiterate, they don't know the questions to ask. 0.93

00:40:06.000 Yeah, but Hitler was a freak. 0.55

00:40:10.000 I mean, why this obsession with Hitler? 0.95

00:40:15.000 It's the most extreme... I mean, in some ways it's sort of...

00:40:19.000 It is literally idiotic. 0.99

00:40:21.000 You know, at one point I asked someone, when I was living with this guy, I said, I find this very troubling. 1.00

00:40:27.000 They said, well, it's not his ends that we're interested in.

00:40:30.000 It's his methods.

00:40:32.000 And you're just blown away by that.

00:40:35.000 But even that, they... Somebody's behavior is the manifestation of who they are.

00:40:40.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:40:41.000 Well, and Hitler's methods were absolutely horrific.

00:40:44.000 But they misunderstand, though.

00:40:45.000 They like to talk about it.

00:40:46.000 They say, look, here's what Hitler did.

00:40:48.000 Hitler got together with a little group of friends in the back of a Bavarian beer hall, and working together, just like you guys are going to work together, whether it's Senator Anson and Senator Coburn, or two younger guys in the group, just like you work together, look what they were able to do. 0.82

00:41:02.000 They were able to take over the world.

00:41:04.000 But that's the same baloney!

00:41:09.000 Well Hitler also, this is mainline history, was hired by German intelligence to set that group up to monitor people and then it got some British funding later from the King of England, Edward VIII, and so Hitler didn't just pop up out of a cabbage patch.

00:41:26.000 Well, the important thing to recognize with these guys is that they're all sort of power-hungry political opportunists, and I think that's what you get with the family.

00:41:35.000 You know, the thing about it is, look, a lot of the young guys I live with, even some of the congressmen I've spoken to, they get involved with the best of intentions.

00:41:42.000 They really, genuinely do.

00:41:44.000 I'll even say that of Senator Brownback.

00:41:45.000 Yeah, that's like congressmen going to, uh...

00:41:51.000 The head of the Washington Times, Mr. Moon, a total cult, and they said, we didn't know that this was going to be a crowning ceremony as him as the Messiah.

00:42:01.000 There they are, embarrassed, gulping as crowns are being put on his head.

00:42:05.000 How does that individual tie into all this?

00:42:08.000 You know, there's a big overlap there, but that's yet again a distinct power base.

00:42:14.000 But there is that overlap, and that example that you give, we didn't know.

00:42:18.000 I think that's been in the news.

00:42:19.000 Again, I emphasize the bipartisan aspect of this.

00:42:22.000 Congressman Bart Stupak of Michigan has been living for seven years.

00:42:27.000 There's also a Bohemian Grove connection.

00:42:29.000 getting subsidized rent, which is a gift, which he should be reporting, which he hasn't.

00:42:33.000 And when the Michigan press asked him about this, he said, gee, I didn't know.

00:42:38.000 I just walked by these foreign policy meetings in my dining room, accepted this cheap rent, and I never bothered to ask questions.

00:42:46.000 It's just not plausible to say you didn't know at that point.

00:42:49.000 There's also a Bohemian Grove connection.

00:42:52.000 We know what Nixon said about that.

00:42:54.000 Anyway, sir, stay there.

00:42:57.000 We're going to come right back and continue with other key points.

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00:43:59.000 In the New World Order's war against humanity, Barack Obama is the tip of the spear.

00:44:07.000 We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to see.

00:44:13.000 The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.

00:44:20.000 Well, Obama's already fudging.

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00:46:00.000 Our guest is going to be with us another five minutes of the next hour, then totally open phones at 1-800-255-255.

00:46:14.000 The military drills, what do you see in your area?

00:46:19.000 Troops from 14 nations involved.

00:46:21.000 That's FEMA.gov.

00:46:23.000 More on the flu, fear-mongering, all of this.

00:46:25.000 But Jeff Charlotte, I've got to have him back up in the near future.

00:46:28.000 JeffCharlotte.com.

00:46:30.000 Charlotte spelled S-H-A-R-L-E-T dot com.

00:46:34.000 The book is The Family.

00:46:36.000 We'll put that up on screen.

00:46:37.000 But here is Mr. Moon, Sun Yung Moon, the head of the Moonies, having crowns put on saying he's above Jesus.

00:46:47.000 And I don't try to get in fights with all these religious groups and all this.

00:46:50.000 It's just that when they try to get political power and have secretive agendas, they have to be discussed.

00:46:56.000 And I expose everything here.

00:46:58.000 That's all we're trying to do.

00:47:00.000 And this is freakish.

00:47:02.000 And there's nothing Christian about John Ashcroft and his Patriot Act and the rest of it.

00:47:06.000 There's nothing liberal about Barack Obama hiring nothing but K Street Boys now and swearing he never would. 0.94

00:47:13.000 But I want to come back in this final five-minute segment in a few minutes to take two or three calls.

00:47:17.000 But first, in the four or five minutes we have left in this segment, other key points you haven't told us about as you're giving us the dirt on these individuals.

00:47:27.000 Well, you know, I think really the biggest point that we want to look at is how the family is acting like a lobby.

00:47:34.000 They're not registered as a lobby, but they're paying for travel for congressmen to go overseas.

00:47:39.000 Senator Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma went on at least 20 missionary trips to Africa, who paid for it.

00:47:47.000 In that case, he actually finagled it.

00:47:49.000 He says he went on behalf of the family, promoting the political philosophy of Jesus as taught to him by Doug Cogan.

00:47:54.000 So it's a tax-exempt lobby on top of it?

00:47:58.000 In his case, he went even further.

00:48:00.000 He actually got the Senate Armed Services Committee to pay for it, $187,000.

00:48:03.000 He went to the President of Nigeria.

00:48:07.000 The State Department didn't want him to meet with him, went there.

00:48:10.000 He got Senator Coburn to go into Lebanon.

00:48:12.000 This is a country that's had civil war between Christians and Muslims for a long, long time.

00:48:16.000 They do not need this kind of interference.

00:48:18.000 Senator Coburn went there and he said, you know what?

00:48:21.000 On his official form, paid for by the family by one of their foundations, the International Foundation, he says, I'm going to set up confidential Christian prayer cells in the Lebanese government, just like the one he used to help cover up the political affairs of Senator Enson.

00:48:36.000 So this group is doing this stuff and when we dig into their own history, we dig into their own archives, we don't have to accuse them or make any wild-eyed, you know, claims and so on, we see an absolutely bloody history.

00:48:47.000 And how are you getting into their archives?

00:48:48.000 They dump 600 boxes of unorganized papers in the Billy Graham Center Archives and And I went there, I was one of the very first people to start poking around, and we're talking about budgets, memos, formal correspondence, even confidential government documents, a lot of stuff on Congressional... Why is it at the Billy Graham Center?

00:49:09.000 Is he involved?

00:49:11.000 Marginally, but not too much.

00:49:14.000 A little bit.

00:49:15.000 I think he's got his own thing going.

00:49:17.000 But Billy Graham did help them set up this annual ritual, which has become sort of an annual lobbying festival called the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington.

00:49:25.000 Every year, everybody attends.

00:49:26.000 The President attends.

00:49:27.000 Congress attends.

00:49:29.000 It's ostensibly ecumenical.

00:49:31.000 Everybody is represented.

00:49:33.000 Internal documents says anything could happen.

00:49:35.000 Even the Koran could be read.

00:49:37.000 And by that they meant, they're referring to Saudi Prince Bandar, who they invited to speak.

00:49:41.000 But Jesus is there.

00:49:43.000 He's infiltrating the world.

00:49:44.000 And by Jesus, of course, you just have to remember, they're not talking about anything you ever learned in Sunday school.

00:49:51.000 They're talking about the idea of American empire.

00:49:53.000 They're talking about the idea... They're talking about the Hitler Jesus. 0.86

00:49:58.000 The Jesus of strength and power, rather than the one of love and forgiveness, yes.

00:50:04.000 Well, look, obviously intelligence agencies love to use missionaries in groups like this, and as you said, the Rockefellers are deeply involved in that. 0.99

00:50:15.000 So this is obviously just one more powerful group in all of this and I would imagine you would say even some of the people involved are doing so they believe for good reasons.

00:50:24.000 I think that's what it's for is to co-opt well-meaning Christian men to kind of warp their sense for the end justifies the means to then go carry out really bad stuff. 0.97

00:50:36.000 But we'll get your take on that in 70 seconds and take a couple phone calls.

00:50:43.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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00:52:21.000 I think the moral to the story is power-seeking individuals love to array themselves in fraternal, secretive arrays.

00:52:30.000 and And we'll be looking more at the CMP, more at the family.

00:52:39.000 I've seen it referred to in similar groups as brotherhoods.

00:52:42.000 There's the Masonic networks as well.

00:52:45.000 Those are all compartmentalized and buried.

00:52:48.000 But at the top, the superclass that Rothkopf talked about, the head of the Kissinger Group on this show, it's just 6,000 global controllers that are the heads of all these groups, and then they manage the whole planet through that system.

00:53:00.000 And that's the message that I try to get out most importantly.

00:53:04.000 Brian in Iowa, you're on the air with the author of this new book.

00:53:08.000 JeffCharlotte.com is the website.

00:53:10.000 Go ahead.

00:53:11.000 Thank you for taking my call.

00:53:12.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

00:53:13.000 As a quick comment, I'd just like to say, Alex, at first, that it's interesting that yesterday you had Robert Gibbs on, and then today you've got all the rags like Greek Bird, AP, Drudge, USA Today coming out with articles going against everything that you guys talked about yesterday.

00:53:27.000 It's kind of something.

00:53:28.000 Yeah, that was crazy.

00:53:29.000 I mean, I just said this is not an original bird certificate.

00:53:32.000 That's why it's getting so big.

00:53:34.000 We just discussed it, and I don't...

00:53:37.000 I noticed it was getting real big, so I'm getting back into covering it now.

00:53:41.000 I don't think Politico and all them are attacking us just because I covered it. 0.97

00:53:45.000 But it is true that on top of all of this, Chris Matthews did say you're mentally ill. 0.95

00:53:54.000 If you question Obama's birth. 0.71

00:53:56.000 You also have the health director of Hawaii coming out and saying that it was also, we've proven it and it's already out there.

00:54:03.000 Listen though, I appreciate your call.

00:54:05.000 I'm not trying to be mean.

00:54:06.000 The guest stayed over just to take questions for himself.

00:54:09.000 So I appreciate your call, Brian.

00:54:10.000 Let's see if John in Ohio wants to talk to the guest.

00:54:12.000 Go ahead, John.

00:54:15.000 Yes, I was aware of the connections to the uh... of Hillary Clinton and James Jones to uh... this uh... this organization and uh... interestingly I saw a very critical expose of that on the World Socialist website some uh... many months ago maybe a year ago so I think what we're seeing here and incidentally I hope you have somebody on from the Black Agenda Report blackagendareport.com because this is one black organization very erudite 1.00

00:54:42.000 That completely blows the pretense that Obama cares about black, whites, or anybody else.

00:54:48.000 And I remember Webster Tarpley commending them about a week ago on his program.

00:54:53.000 So I think this would be a very good antidote to those... Okay, set up the Black Agenda Report. 1.00

00:54:58.000 John, do you have a question for our guests?

00:55:00.000 We've got about a minute and a half left here.

00:55:02.000 Right.

00:55:03.000 Now, you mentioned that the free market, fundamentalism, imperialism, war, and empire are really what they're about.

00:55:11.000 And if you look at people like James Jones and his connections to the Council on Foreign Relations and Hillary's connections to the Council on Foreign Relations, you see that these people are not liberals, they're not socialists.

00:55:26.000 They are operatives of the same fake liberal organizations that are used in disguise for these really fundamentally reactionary organizations.

00:55:36.000 Let me get a comment from him on that.

00:55:38.000 Your take on what John from Ohio was just saying, Mr. Sharma?

00:55:42.000 I think John gives us the one good point, which is that a lot of the powerful folks involved in this, we want to not be distracted by those labels like liberals and conservatives.

00:55:50.000 Rather, I think we want to look at how are they serving this project of American empire versus American democracy.

00:55:57.000 That's the bottom line.

00:55:58.000 Which do you believe in, democracy or empire?

00:56:00.000 The family has thrown its lot in with empire, and they've been able to bring a lot of powerful congressmen and other officials with them.

00:56:08.000 Some of them, most of them, label those conservatives.

00:56:11.000 Some of them label those liberals.

00:56:12.000 All of them interested in serving this empire project rather than the democratic project.

00:56:18.000 And the point I want to make is that we pay for this empire so far. 0.99

00:56:27.000 So many Americans feel like, yeah, kill them brown people, take their oil. 0.99

00:56:30.000 And I've heard a lot of people on talk radio, yeah, we're taking the brown people's oil. 1.00

00:56:35.000 It's kind of a redneck Klan thing. 0.84

00:56:37.000 Hey, dummies, you're paying for all this. 0.92

00:56:40.000 You don't get it. 0.95

00:56:41.000 The big banks, the offshore corporations do.

00:56:44.000 Stop thinking you're part of the power structure.

00:56:46.000 Well, Jeff Charlotte, I appreciate you coming on about the book, the family, and as things unfold, I look forward to have you back on the show soon.

00:56:54.000 Thanks for spending time with us.

00:56:58.000 You bet.

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01:00:01.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

01:00:04.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:08.000 Okay, I am insanely news blitzing.

01:00:11.000 I want to get your NLE09 calls, reports, martial law drill with 14 different nations, publicly to engage the American people.

01:00:19.000 FEMA admits it, foreign troops, Israeli, German, British, the list goes on and on.

01:00:25.000 We have articles up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:00:29.000 People are getting scared.

01:00:30.000 They don't even know this show.

01:00:31.000 I have friends and family and other talk show hosts all over the country saying people are here and they're going to be forced to take a shot and they're upset and saying, how do I not take it?

01:00:39.000 Well, just don't roll your sleeve up.

01:00:45.000 Eating during the break there.

01:00:46.000 Don't roll your sleeves up.

01:00:48.000 Don't go along with it.

01:00:50.000 Expose it.

01:00:50.000 And once a few percentage points say no, the whole thing will fall apart and implode.

01:00:56.000 Now, I want to discuss that.

01:01:00.000 I want to cover that.

01:01:01.000 But I'm going to your calls.

01:01:03.000 One minute apiece.

01:01:06.000 I just can't seem to be able to do this because the callers are always so great.

01:01:09.000 Just make your point or ask me the question because I want to get to the next person.

01:01:13.000 That's how we get to everybody.

01:01:14.000 Because I want to get to some NLE09 calls.

01:01:17.000 I want to get to some other issues here.

01:01:19.000 And I've got a big news bulletin coming up in the last 10-15 minutes.

01:01:21.000 But right now, Colton in Canada disagrees.

01:01:24.000 Go ahead, Colton.

01:01:26.000 Hey Alex, good to hear from you.

01:01:28.000 I've actually been listening to your radio show for about seven years.

01:01:30.000 I'm a member of Prison Planet TV and I actually got into it when I first started listening to you.

01:01:36.000 I kind of got thrown off because you have a very eccentric personality.

01:01:40.000 And then, when I actually listened to one of your radio shows, you said, don't take my word for it, I challenge you, go and look for the information.

01:01:47.000 Okay, go ahead and tell me what you're in for.

01:01:48.000 Everything that you come up with, I go and I do a research on it, and for the first, like, four or five years, everything that you've come up with, I've always been able to verify through everything.

01:01:58.000 I've only had one thing that I've never been able to, that you've mentioned on your show, that I've actually found the exact opposite.

01:02:06.000 You haven't had two individuals by the name of Robert Menard or John Harris on.

01:02:12.000 There actually, there's a group in UK, part of the We Are Change group, a guy named Darren Pillard.

01:02:22.000 What they've done is they've told the government they don't consent to anything.

01:02:25.000 They don't want to be part of it.

01:02:27.000 They're removing themselves from the entire government.

01:02:30.000 And you've brought up the stuff about straw men and stuff before.

01:02:33.000 Well, these guys have actually gone to court, right up against the people, fronted out or showed them their actual... Sir, let's just stop right there.

01:02:41.000 Stop right there.

01:02:42.000 You're saying you found something I said that isn't accurate.

01:02:49.000 I make mistakes all the time.

01:02:50.000 Most of my mistakes are, I called it K Street, the lobbyists, because I have an article about Obama getting rid of all lobbying rules worse than Bush.

01:02:57.000 The lobbyists are openly writing all the policy and law.

01:03:00.000 Complete flip-flop.

01:03:03.000 I called C Street, K Street. 0.88

01:03:05.000 So you've got to watch me on stuff.

01:03:06.000 It's not intentional.

01:03:07.000 You know, I flip things around because I'm busy on air.

01:03:11.000 You're bringing up We Are Change.

01:03:13.000 I mean, I'm the one that put We Are Change on the map when telling people to join Luke's group.

01:03:18.000 So I'm, or maybe that's not what you're saying, I'm lying about or I'm wrong about.

01:03:22.000 What is your point?

01:03:23.000 Quickly, come on! 0.96

01:03:24.000 What you're wrong about is the whole reference to the strawman.

01:03:27.000 There's, uh, in the legal definitions of the word person, these people have actually gone to court.

01:03:33.000 I know, Black's Law, all of it. 0.99

01:03:35.000 Yeah, you go into Black's Law, you can go into the case laws like, um, I've got a case law reference here, Luther v. Borden, site 48, US 1, 1849.

01:03:48.000 Listen, listen, I told you one minute apiece and I appreciate your call.

01:03:52.000 You got about three.

01:03:54.000 It is so hard to respond to this.

01:04:02.000 I lovingly try to stay away from all this stuff because I don't like sending my listeners to prison.

01:04:09.000 Okay?

01:04:12.000 If I had a dollar for every quack liar on the radio and TV, and I don't know those people you mentioned.

01:04:19.000 So I'm not saying they are.

01:04:20.000 If I had a dollar for every person that claims, file this straw man, file these liens, get this bond out, do this.

01:04:28.000 The whole common law system is set that you can swear to something and go file it.

01:04:32.000 But then if it isn't true, you're going to get in trouble.

01:04:35.000 But there's so much of it that they can't respond to all of it.

01:04:39.000 I've had people file fake liens on me.

01:04:41.000 I've had all sorts of stuff go on.

01:04:43.000 All I'm saying is there's such a minefield of disinfo and false law out there.

01:04:49.000 Certainly the government creates a straw man and gets you to waive rights through contract and it's a lie to say you gotta take vaccines and I hear lawyers on air saying Admiralty only deals with ships.

01:05:00.000 No, I've seen federal courts declare Admiralty stealing people's property in the US.

01:05:04.000 So there's kernels of truth to all this.

01:05:07.000 I just don't get up here and push people into all of these theories about law and ideas when they don't even know their Bill of Rights or Constitution.

01:05:16.000 Now I know there's some freeman societies and groups that I've seen give some decent speeches in England explaining how the system works and telling the system I'm not going along with you. 0.99

01:05:28.000 That is a human declaration as a free being and creature.

01:05:34.000 Okay, so You don't understand the point I'm making and what I'm saying. 0.64

01:05:38.000 So hey, go knock yourself out! 0.95

01:05:42.000 I just see a lot of people claim they've won this case, or claim they've done this, or claim they've done that, and it's normally not true.

01:05:48.000 I don't know about those groups you mentioned.

01:05:49.000 I'm just saying, look out, there's a lot of bull out there.

01:05:53.000 I don't steer my giant audience off into kind of patriot kook land, where there's all this imaginary baloney going on.

01:06:01.000 I don't talk about chupacabras and space aliens.

01:06:04.000 You know, I'm not...

01:06:07.000 I just spent five minutes with you, pal.

01:06:09.000 I'm gonna take these calls and each person's getting one minute, okay?

01:06:12.000 Because we... David in Thailand, go ahead, you're on the air.

01:06:16.000 Yeah, hey Alex.

01:06:19.000 Watching the Chris Matthews video and other things like it where they're tying the birth certificate issue to things like 9-11 and Bilderberg.

01:06:30.000 Yeah, they're saying Bilderberg doesn't exist and if you talk about it you need to go to a mental institution.

01:06:35.000 Sounds like the Soviet Union. 0.88

01:06:36.000 They're saying if you question his birth certificate when they won't release it, it's a certificate of a certificate.

01:06:41.000 It's a receipt of live birth and it looks like it's forged. 0.91

01:06:46.000 They're saying if you question the swine flu, you're insane.

01:06:49.000 You've got to do what they say, because they're losing control.

01:06:52.000 Go ahead.

01:06:54.000 Yeah, that's making me think that maybe he was actually born in Hawaii, but they're just holding that back and creating this fake controversy and tying it to all these other real things.

01:07:08.000 And then when they get ready, they're going to... Yeah, you never know with a PSYOP.

01:07:10.000 You never know with a PSYOP.

01:07:11.000 And I was thinking that in the shower this morning after I went for a jog.

01:07:14.000 I'm going, wait a minute, they could be acting like, you know, they're upset with this to really hype it up and then disprove it later.

01:07:24.000 If that's true, their body language, and it's hard to fake it, they look like they hate having to cover it, and they're actually scared of it.

01:07:32.000 And let me tell you, they're scared of anything spontaneous.

01:07:33.000 They're masters of hoaxes.

01:07:36.000 So even if it's a hoax that he was born in Kenya and that it's not a hoax that he was born in Hawaii, they are afraid of stuff.

01:07:44.000 They're masters of lies.

01:07:46.000 So let's say it could be a lie.

01:07:48.000 They're scared of town halls where spontaneously the town hall's not even about Obama and everybody's yelling and screaming about his birth certificate.

01:07:56.000 No, they're genuinely scared.

01:07:58.000 We have to stop not accepting victory.

01:08:01.000 Now, I'm not saying you're bad caller.

01:08:02.000 I have the same thoughts this morning.

01:08:04.000 I'm always analyzing and thinking.

01:08:06.000 Every waking moment, even when I dream, I'm thinking about this stuff.

01:08:11.000 No, I genuinely think they tried to ignore it, and they're scared, and that makes me think it's probably true.

01:08:16.000 And there's a lot of pieces that go into that, but regardless, it isn't good for Obama.

01:08:20.000 And anything that stalls him is good, but if it isn't true that he was born in Kenya, I will try to come out and expose that. 0.93

01:08:27.000 But my gut tells me that they're covering something up.

01:08:30.000 I'm not sure what it is, but it's a very, very serious, big issue.

01:08:37.000 But after Obama is defeated as a political demagogue, as long as that train stalls and he can't get his agenda through, then we've got to point out he's just a puppet and not make it about a new system where judo, where they use our action against him to put a new right-wing puppet in. 0.62

01:08:53.000 You see, we've got to stop that left-right dynamo.

01:08:58.000 You understand the point I'm making?

01:09:00.000 Yeah, I just think, you know, if he actually was, and when they got ready they brought that out and showed that it was true, it would discredit all the other 9-11 and the Fed and Bilderberg that they've been tying that to, and all the people that have been talking about it would be all discredited.

01:09:17.000 Yeah, no, see, sir, but we can hypothetically think of anything all day.

01:09:21.000 The system, and I appreciate your call, is discredited.

01:09:25.000 The system is discredited.

01:09:28.000 That's what I mean.

01:09:29.000 He may have been born in Hawaii, but everybody knows the government and the media have been caught lying a billion times.

01:09:34.000 So, if they said Obama was black, people wouldn't believe it.

01:09:40.000 Of course, because that's a lie too. 0.94

01:09:42.000 He's really 6.5% black.

01:09:44.000 African.

01:09:45.000 Most of it's Arab or white. 0.78

01:09:48.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:09:49.000 It's just... It's a total confidence loss is what's happening.

01:09:56.000 It's very sophisticated what they've done, and they've just basically destroyed confidence.

01:10:01.000 I don't know.

01:10:02.000 We're gonna find out, okay?

01:10:04.000 You got a good point, though.

01:10:06.000 Let's talk to Paul in Florida.

01:10:08.000 Paul, go ahead.

01:10:12.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:10:13.000 Go ahead, you're on air.

01:10:15.000 Hey there.

01:10:15.000 Yeah!

01:10:16.000 Go ahead!

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01:10:32.000 All right.

01:10:32.000 Thank you, sir.

01:10:33.000 I appreciate that call.

01:10:35.000 Let's talk to Nick in Florida.

01:10:37.000 Nick, you're on the air.

01:10:38.000 Go ahead, Nick.

01:10:39.000 Hey, Alex Jones.

01:10:41.000 Long time, first time.

01:10:42.000 I wanted to let you know that my best friend, he's got a family friend who works at Raytheon in Tampa.

01:10:49.000 And, uh, he said he works at the receiving, uh, and shipping area throughout the entire building.

01:10:55.000 He receives everything that comes in, every order that gets put in.

01:10:59.000 He said that they had a huge order for, like, 500,000 riot gear suits, and he said that in the whole time that he's been working there for, like, 20-something years, he said he's never seen nothing like it.

01:11:10.000 Well, that's not just your buddy at Raytheon, because we can't confirm that, but I believe you.

01:11:14.000 It's all over the news!

01:11:15.000 They've ordered body bags and riot gear, and have tried to train the main army force for a riot, and are having military drills everywhere to condition everybody, and saying... I mean, again, they destroy the economy, that causes riots, then that sets the precedent for the police state.

01:11:30.000 What else did he say?

01:11:36.000 Did he say anything else there, caller?

01:11:38.000 Um, no.

01:11:39.000 He just said that they had ordered Riot Gear suits and he had never seen anything like it.

01:11:43.000 It was a huge order and he was basically telling everybody he knew and he told my best friend, who is a relative of his, and he said that, I mean, he don't listen to your show, he doesn't even have a computer, but he was scared and he would tell me about it and I said, well, that's what Alex Jones has been talking about.

01:11:58.000 Well, thank you so much for that tip.

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01:16:00.000 Yeah, they want us to all be fighting with each other.

01:16:12.000 That's why they love saying, we gotta have more discussions of race in America.

01:16:17.000 Everybody's like these neurotic quits scared of using words.

01:16:22.000 And everybody's afraid of making somebody upset.

01:16:24.000 The government, though, will keep all the groups under control.

01:16:28.000 Take your shots.

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01:16:33.000 Alright, let's go back to your calls here.

01:16:36.000 Who's up next?

01:16:37.000 Chad in Florida?

01:16:39.000 Chad in Florida, go ahead.

01:16:41.000 Hello, Alex Jones.

01:16:43.000 How are you, sir?

01:16:44.000 What's on your mind today?

01:16:44.000 Good, Chad.

01:16:46.000 I will keep this under a minute for you.

01:16:48.000 I have two questions, but basically one of them only needs a response on air from you.

01:16:54.000 First off, you are my mentor and I appreciate you so much.

01:16:59.000 I interviewed G. Edward Griffin on July 18th.

01:17:02.000 He did such an incredible job.

01:17:07.000 He wants to come back on.

01:17:10.000 They got me in touch with Jim Mars, so I hope that maybe you can verify that I know Joan Hunter, his personal assistant.

01:17:16.000 Maybe off air I can... Sir, I don't even know what you're talking about.

01:17:18.000 I mean, I'm like taking calls and I always get people calling in plugging or their radio shows.

01:17:25.000 G. Edward Griffin?

01:17:25.000 I mean, what are you saying?

01:17:27.000 I'm saying that he came on my show and he wants to come back on and I would, I hope that I can maybe get you on somehow.

01:17:33.000 My question was about NLE.

01:17:34.000 And do you think Just like with before 9-11, do you think, I mean, if you're spidey-sense up with this one, could this be, and the swine flu, be the actual, them actually going for it all this time?

01:17:51.000 Okay, listen, I appreciate your call.

01:17:52.000 I'm not trying to be mean.

01:17:54.000 I can't seem to break this habit of taking one or two calls an hour when I could take hundreds an hour.

01:17:58.000 I mean, unlimited calls.

01:18:01.000 And there's so many great callers I want to get on that have important tips and info to cover, plus I'm a loud mouth, blowhard, you know, and I need to shut up.

01:18:10.000 Yes, my Spidey Sense is off the chart.

01:18:13.000 Not about NLE09.

01:18:14.000 That's just the Feds testing the total takeover with foreign troops.

01:18:19.000 That intellectually and historically is off the charts, very upsetting.

01:18:24.000 But the way they're hyping this flu that's super weak, that's clearly man-made though, And digging the mass graves and getting ready, I said that back in March, even before April, and now they're saying get ready for forced inoculations and setting up emergency tents and troops, even in Austin at Camp Mabry.

01:18:41.000 I went over there a few days ago and confirmed that.

01:18:43.000 I mean, this is, this, they're getting ready for something big as a political cover for the banking takeover and the water takeover and the carbon tax takeover and the hate speech takeover and the, just all of it's happening right now.

01:18:58.000 Yes, my Spidey Sense is off the charts upset.

01:19:02.000 Okay?

01:19:03.000 And we've all got a sixth sense, but mine is intellectual and also in my gut, and it's off the chart right now.

01:19:09.000 And everybody else is freaking out, saying, I'm worried, I don't want to take the shot, something's going on, I'm worried.

01:19:15.000 And they're getting ready to make a move.

01:19:16.000 Obama's approval rating's dropping, the establishment needed him to get their agenda through, and they're going to stage something, get ready.

01:19:24.000 Just absolutely.

01:19:25.000 As for me coming on your radio show, I have never been this busy.

01:19:28.000 I'm behind doing a book.

01:19:29.000 I gotta finish the new Obama film.

01:19:32.000 That means a website and cover design and finish the film and it's just insane and it's so good and I'm up here every night till one in the morning that I've really cut back on doing interviews almost down to nothing.

01:19:45.000 Okay?

01:19:47.000 And so, I will do interviews coming up in October.

01:19:50.000 Folks can contact the producers.

01:19:52.000 That's how you do it, is you contact them.

01:19:53.000 Because the producers slash publicist slash whatever you want to call it.

01:19:57.000 Now that was four minutes with that caller.

01:20:00.000 I'll never get anything done.

01:20:01.000 It's just insane.

01:20:03.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Casey in New York.

01:20:05.000 Go ahead, Casey.

01:20:06.000 Hey, how's it going Alex?

01:20:09.000 Good, Casey.

01:20:10.000 What's on your mind today?

01:20:14.000 I've heard you mention this on several shows and I have one thing I disagree with you on.

01:20:18.000 You said the Rockefellers discovered the cancer virus and from my research I found out there was an inventor named Royal Reif who discovered the cancer virus using his high-end optics and actually the Rockefellers stole those ideas from the inventor himself.

01:20:37.000 Yeah, I mean, that's how many angels can dance to the head of a pen. 0.81

01:20:41.000 I've heard the recordings of Reif sitting there drinking scotch, claiming that he invented the sun, almost.

01:20:48.000 And I'm not saying he probably didn't invent some interesting things, but he also, I've seen film of him with big so-called projectors to do stuff with flying saucers.

01:20:58.000 So, I don't just accept what the government says, and the media says, and I don't accept what Royal Raymond Reif and everybody else says.

01:21:08.000 I'm saying the Rockefeller Foundation, in this research I did from declassified university studies, they, in the 20s, funded the research.

01:21:21.000 Discovered that most cancer was viral, and then they started vaccine programs and cancer research and treatment facilities, putting it in the vaccines, and then they make the money off of you when you die from the cancer.

01:21:33.000 That was my point!

01:21:34.000 Is they're killing us with cancer!

01:21:37.000 Okay?

01:21:38.000 Instead, we're talking about Raymond Wright.

01:21:40.000 And I'm not mad at you, but my God, man!

01:21:44.000 It just never ends.

01:21:46.000 What about not taking the shots?

01:21:48.000 That was my issue.

01:21:49.000 That they're giving us cancer.

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01:24:59.000 Yeah, on the Royal Raymond Rife stuff, there might have been some truth to that, but I mean, if I have one more kook show at my office with a glass ray gun with some flashing if I have one more kook show at my office with a glass ray gun with some flashing light in I mean it makes me sick.

01:25:25.000 And this is part of magical thinking and Harry Potter delusion.

01:25:30.000 Now are there all sorts of magnetic and scalar technology in real systems?

01:25:33.000 Yes.

01:25:34.000 Is there weather modification?

01:25:36.000 But all of this kookiness gets in the way of real research of things we can prove and that's how the system discredits us.

01:25:36.000 Yes.

01:25:44.000 Now, I don't try to police this.

01:25:46.000 People call in and ask me about it.

01:25:48.000 I'm going to go off the deep end.

01:25:50.000 I mean, I've seen locals on AXS TV saying they're wizards.

01:25:55.000 And then they go out to lakes and have wires they stick in the water with plastic pyramids and go, look, I'm power beaming the sky.

01:26:03.000 I mean this.

01:26:04.000 And then I'm the crazy one because I don't believe this. 0.79

01:26:07.000 No, it's bull. 0.65

01:26:09.000 It's delusion.

01:26:10.000 God help me, man.

01:26:14.000 You know, when I tell you about NLE 09 and troops from 14 countries here training for martial law, FEMA says that, but in their own spin.

01:26:24.000 Oh, they're here to help us with a simulated terror attack on the homeland by domestic terrorists, and they're going to also help us spy on the American people, you know, run surveillance.

01:26:34.000 I mean, it's total federalization drill with foreign troops, and nobody cares about that. 0.86

01:26:39.000 It's all Obama and race relations or O.J.

01:26:45.000 Simpson or Michael Jackson, they love issues with black people.

01:26:49.000 Then they can make it all about black and white. 0.79

01:26:52.000 It's mind control, folks.

01:26:53.000 I've just had enough of it.

01:26:55.000 And also, we're going into a depression.

01:26:56.000 We're going into a collapse of society.

01:26:59.000 And your Oregon plastic pyramids ain't gonna save you.

01:27:02.000 I'll tell you right now.

01:27:06.000 There, I've done it.

01:27:07.000 I've made the entire Plastic Pyramid group mad.

01:27:09.000 Look, the point, I just can't handle it.

01:27:10.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Kevin in Michigan.

01:27:13.000 Kevin, you're on the air.

01:27:15.000 Hello, Alex.

01:27:17.000 Hi, buddy.

01:27:17.000 What's on your mind?

01:27:19.000 I'm going to stick to the format, L-N-E-O-O-9. 1.00

01:27:25.000 I live in Lansing, 10 miles west of us is a major helicopter hub for Army, whatever.

01:27:35.000 In Grand Ledge and there's just been a ton of activity the past week in that direction.

01:27:42.000 Oh yeah, there's activity everywhere as they simulate, mainly taking over cities, as the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 97 states, that now Homeland Security and Brigade Homeland, NORTHCOM, main job is to suppress governors and legislatures.

01:27:56.000 It's stated!

01:27:58.000 And then who is the legislature going to call on?

01:28:00.000 Vets!

01:28:01.000 Number one enemy.

01:28:02.000 I mean, if that doesn't prove the government's rogue and illegitimate, my friend, what does?

01:28:07.000 Well, I agree.

01:28:09.000 And also, just talked to a lady friend this morning whose nephew was just called up.

01:28:15.000 Said there was a bunch of them called up.

01:28:18.000 Not going to the Middle East.

01:28:20.000 Don't know what they're doing.

01:28:21.000 So, those are the two tidbits that I've got.

01:28:25.000 Well, first to go, last to know, they're admitting that they're trying to train large portions of the regular army force for the last three years, NMP, military police, search and cordon, and they're doing drills from Missouri to California in the newspaper.

01:28:40.000 I showed it yesterday, of fighting American gun owners. 0.57

01:28:44.000 Did you see those articles I covered?

01:28:48.000 I've caught a lot yesterday, but I didn't get everything, though, sir.

01:28:52.000 No, no, I don't blame you.

01:28:53.000 It's a four-hour show with an obnoxious pumpkin head directing it, but I appreciate your call, sir. 1.00

01:28:58.000 Good to hear from you.

01:29:00.000 Look, again, I don't have all the answers, folks.

01:29:02.000 I'm not the end-all, be-all.

01:29:04.000 I'm just here pointing out the insanity taking place.

01:29:07.000 23.7 trills stolen, they've sucked us dry, they plan to fully implode the economy, and then they're running all these Deceptive headlines like home prices index up for first time in three years.

01:29:22.000 And then what it says is the decline slowed because it's bottoming out.

01:29:32.000 But the deceptive headline says up.

01:29:35.000 But then you read the article, everything's falling apart.

01:29:38.000 I mean, again, they're telling you inflation's down.

01:29:40.000 Everybody knows everything costs more.

01:29:41.000 Let me ask the guys.

01:29:42.000 Does everything cost more, it seems like?

01:29:44.000 I mean, do you believe the news saying things cost less, or do they cost more?

01:29:52.000 Home price index up for the first time in three years.

01:29:55.000 Index of 20 major cities rises on a monthly basis for the first time since July 2006.

01:30:00.000 Hinting that the worst of the declines may be over.

01:30:04.000 Heard green shoots six months ago, remember?

01:30:07.000 And again, I hope things will get better, but the globalists have every intention in their own documents.

01:30:13.000 You got the Dennis Kucinich clip where They're admitting that the Federal Reserve paid banks not to lend and that lending's gone down.

01:30:21.000 They could have paid all the mortgages in the country twice over and had $5 trillion left on a 23.7 trill.

01:30:30.000 All the mortgages, $9.4 trillion.

01:30:32.000 All of them, not the ones in trouble.

01:30:34.000 All of them.

01:30:34.000 Every condo, every mansion, everything.

01:30:39.000 Go ahead and play this.

01:30:42.000 Your report about lending where you talk about how banks have been leveraging TARP funds to support lending activities.

01:30:52.000 And you say on commercial lending, 20% of respondents reported they used TARP funding for commercial lending activities.

01:31:02.000 17% of respondents deploying TARP funds for other consumer lending.

01:31:06.000 13% for small business.

01:31:08.000 You talk about the capital cushion, how some banks are basically parking their funds to create a cushion against loan losses.

01:31:19.000 Now, I looked at your report.

01:31:21.000 And I want to use that report as a backdrop for a news report that came in today.

01:31:29.000 Now, we went back into the TARP history here.

01:31:31.000 We know the first intent that Congress had, purchase toxic assets, which were mortgage-backed securities.

01:31:37.000 We were told, keep people in their homes.

01:31:39.000 Well, administration threw that out the door, last administration.

01:31:42.000 Then, we were told, we're going to switch the TARP funds to help bail out the banks, direct capital infusion.

01:31:51.000 But I think something else has happened here and I want to make sure it doesn't escape this committee and I hope that you can tell me it hasn't escaped your notice.

01:32:00.000 We're now seeing that we have another switch that's occurred.

01:32:03.000 That we actually have the Fed paying banks not to use their, quote, excess capital to make loans.

01:32:11.000 I direct your attention to a news report today, which says that banks' excess reserves at the Fed rose to a record $877.1 billion daily average in the two weeks ended May 20th.

01:32:26.000 Okay, that's enough.

01:32:27.000 From $2 billion a year.

01:32:28.000 It goes on and on.

01:32:29.000 It's up on InfoWars.com, up on PrisonPlanet.com.

01:32:32.000 There's four more minutes.

01:32:33.000 And I can give you all the mainstream news articles on it, or you can go to StartPage.com, a search engine, and punch it in and find it all right there.

01:32:42.000 Just Google, Federal Reserve paying banks not to loan.

01:32:45.000 Yeah, Federal Reserve paying its own banks.

01:32:49.000 The Federal Reserve is a holding front company for private banks.

01:32:53.000 Now, I told you this back in October, because they've done this in the third world all over and over again. 1.00

01:32:59.000 They plunge the economy, get a bailout, hoard the money, till everything implodes, then they're going to dump the money on the market, buying everything up, while it still has value, then it's devalued once the money finally gets in your hands in the economy.

01:33:17.000 Because their argument is, this money can only be at institutional level, it can't hit the street, or it'll cause inflation.

01:33:24.000 Comprende?

01:33:27.000 That's why they're buying seaports, and roads, and technology companies, and things like that.

01:33:33.000 And weapon systems.

01:33:34.000 Because you're not supposed to get your own stinking money!

01:33:39.000 And then as if that fraud wasn't enough, you pay interest to the banks on the money you gave them! 1.00

01:33:46.000 My God, imagine if you're a con artist and you thought up the most insane fraud you could of how to rip the biggest idiots off. 1.00

01:33:53.000 This is it! 1.00

01:33:55.000 It's like New Jersey, where hundreds of government officials are selling organs, and stealing money from things, and mayors, and the whole country's like this!

01:34:03.000 I mean, I just... I mean, it's just... And then Kucinich and Ron Paul get attacked by the media.

01:34:08.000 They're the bad guys, because they're talking... There's the bad man, right there!

01:34:13.000 Here's the bad man! 0.99

01:34:15.000 Got the news media basically parachuting in on me, attacking me every day, you know, because I don't like being raped by foreign banks. 0.98

01:34:22.000 Okay, let's blitz through calls. 0.90

01:34:24.000 Ryan in Wisconsin, come on down!

01:34:26.000 Hi Alex.

01:34:29.000 Hey! 0.99

01:34:30.000 Is the hype about the United States Corporation Act of 1871 a bunch of bull?

01:34:39.000 Specifically, I have to pull that up, but a lot of that is true, some of it isn't.

01:34:45.000 They also say things like, you know, this company or that company or this government agency is really a private corporation and They operate as private corporations, but they have one foot in government, one foot out of government.

01:34:58.000 It's a quasi.

01:35:00.000 But it is true the District of Columbia does operate as a corporation.

01:35:05.000 but it has feet in both the republic and in the country and in its own corporate system does that answer your question Is there two governments?

01:35:24.000 Well, there's more than two governments.

01:35:25.000 I mean, you now have the private bureaucracies that openly tie into private corporations that are now the real government, and they operate under continuity of government laws and through the National Security Council.

01:35:37.000 I appreciate your call.

01:35:39.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Robert in Missouri.

01:35:42.000 Robert, you're on the air.

01:35:44.000 Hello?

01:35:45.000 Yes, sir.

01:35:46.000 Hey.

01:35:47.000 I'm just wanting to tell you that I've listened to you for a long time.

01:35:51.000 I'm one of them survivors from the 70s, or mid-70s, uh, CPS, kidnapping children.

01:35:59.000 Um, and I'm telling you, they kidnap you and they rewire your brain.

01:36:04.000 You can't even think right anymore.

01:36:07.000 Well no, they admit that some states, 76% are on drugs.

01:36:12.000 On average, 68% of children they grab, they put on 7 drugs on average.

01:36:17.000 And there's been doctors in the news in Texas, WAI-TV did a great report, you can Google it.

01:36:22.000 Foster kids on drugs and he said he saw kids healthy and happy five-year-olds they'd taken that were in wheelchairs two years later the drug I mean one kid they put on 18 drugs because the CPS and the foster families get more money the more drugs and the more health problems your kids got and they use them to test pesticides on them New York Daily News I preach in fact Google foster children pesticides tested on foster children And you'll see, all over the country.

01:36:50.000 I mean, they kill them!

01:36:51.000 They give them, in a month, pesticide, and then they chain them down, they try to escape, and they murder them! 0.70

01:36:57.000 I mean, they just murder!

01:36:59.000 They take the organs, it's just murder, killing, death, frothing, doing whatever they want.

01:37:04.000 You cannot imagine how, because people won't believe the evil's going on, so the evil just has free reign. 0.77

01:37:11.000 The devil's biggest trick was convincing the world he didn't exist, and boy, these are human devils that are out there.

01:37:18.000 Let's talk to Chris in Florida.

01:37:20.000 Chris, you're on the air.

01:37:21.000 Go ahead.

01:37:23.000 Hey, I'd like to talk about the de facto versus the digital government that I've had a victory on, but more importantly, since I have less than a minute probably, there's one remedy that is clinically proven effective, not only against the side effects of the various vaccinations that cause the hemorrhagic fever, but also flus cause hemorrhagic fever.

01:37:45.000 No, you're right.

01:37:45.000 And again, for those that don't know what hemorrhagic fever is, it may explain, causes an autoimmune response, then the lungs fill with the liquid, you're being killed by the vaccines, they know it and don't care!

01:37:56.000 Yes, and colostrum is that remedy.

01:37:59.000 I've read a whole lot about colostrum.

01:38:02.000 Those with healthy immune systems are often more vulnerable to some kinds of flu, which can kill fewer by the complications of the infection.

01:38:09.000 Because you're getting hemorrhagic fever.

01:38:10.000 Hemorrhagic tends to hit people with healthy immunes, the more healthy immune systems.

01:38:15.000 It causes the internal bleeding caused by the immediate extreme inflammatory immune response and the immune modulator colostrum, or bovine colostrum, I've been taking for years.

01:38:27.000 It's clinically proven effective against things like Guyon-Barre syndrome.

01:38:32.000 And multiple sclerosis, autoimmune disorders, it helps modulate the immune system if it's overactive, or bring it up if it actually has live antibodies that you can absorb that are protected and can be absorbed in the gut.

01:38:44.000 It's very anti-fungal, bacterial, anti-cancer.

01:38:47.000 Hey, sounds like great info.

01:38:49.000 Write an article about it from your perspective, citing medical research.

01:38:52.000 I know a lot of that's been cited.

01:38:54.000 And send it to writers at infowars.com.

01:38:56.000 Thank you so much.

01:38:57.000 Remember, me going quickly to calls is what enables me to get others on.

01:39:01.000 That's why you guys are getting on the show today, and we love talking to you.

01:39:04.000 Let's talk to Tony in Maryland, and then Lola.

01:39:07.000 Tony, go ahead.

01:39:09.000 How you doing?

01:39:10.000 I'm a big fan of the show.

01:39:12.000 I got your Don't Try to Own Me shirt on.

01:39:15.000 I'm wearing it down here to try to see if I can't find the NLE09.

01:39:20.000 Again, the t-shirts are really spreading the word.

01:39:23.000 Available at InfoWars.com.

01:39:25.000 Thanks for reminding me.

01:39:25.000 I hadn't plugged those yet.

01:39:27.000 I got a couple the other night.

01:39:28.000 The 1776 was answered in 1984.

01:39:31.000 And then there was another one.

01:39:35.000 Saved the USA. 0.50

01:39:37.000 But anyway, that's beside the fact.

01:39:39.000 I was trying to look and see if there was any FEMA drills going on here.

01:39:44.000 in Washington, D.C.

01:39:45.000 And I'm not sure where they're at.

01:39:47.000 Well, they never announce them to the enemy.

01:39:50.000 But if you go to FEMA.org, we've posted and shown all their press releases about the 14 countries and foreign troops.

01:39:57.000 And some are tabletop exercises.

01:39:58.000 Some are in the streets.

01:40:00.000 Some are on bases.

01:40:01.000 Some are in towns.

01:40:02.000 Google terrorism drill and the name of your city, and then you'll see it.

01:40:08.000 But take Camp Mabry and the stuff going on there, and other stuff going on in Waco we've confirmed is going on.

01:40:13.000 That is nowhere in the news.

01:40:14.000 So where I live, this is going on, but it's not in the news.

01:40:20.000 Okay, I know a guy that was in Waco.

01:40:24.000 He was one of the planners, and I see him all the time, and I was like, hey, you know, you had special forces in the rear firing on the people.

01:40:33.000 And he said, oh, yeah, I know.

01:40:34.000 Well, that's in the Congress's own report that Delta Force was there shooting the people.

01:40:39.000 And then there's the flare footage of them shooting the people.

01:40:41.000 And the news said those troops with rifles and those flashes, that is an anomaly.

01:40:46.000 And you see the guns with the Christmas tree flash on video.

01:40:51.000 But because it's black and white, they said, well... That'd be like if you had an elephant in your room and they said, that's not an elephant.

01:40:59.000 You're like, well, he's got a trunk and ears and looks like he pooped on the floor right there.

01:41:03.000 And they're like, nope, there's no elephant.

01:41:05.000 You know, I mean, it's troops shooting the Davidians on video, the flare footage.

01:41:09.000 And they go, no, that's not what it is.

01:41:11.000 Uh, let's go ahead.

01:41:14.000 Wake up.

01:41:16.000 Um, hello?

01:41:17.000 Yeah, go ahead and finish, sir.

01:41:19.000 I thought I'd let you go.

01:41:19.000 Go ahead.

01:41:21.000 And the funny thing is, I'm right here in front of the American Bar Association.

01:41:25.000 Is it true that it's the American Barrister Association?

01:41:28.000 You know, I hear that and they say it means the accredited bar, British registry, all that.

01:41:35.000 And look, I looked into it and couldn't find that.

01:41:37.000 I appreciate your call.

01:41:38.000 My whole point is everybody obsesses over all that mythology all day instead of warning people not to take the shots.

01:41:44.000 Let's talk to Lola in Vegas. 1.00

01:41:48.000 Lola, you're on the air.

01:41:49.000 Welcome.

01:41:50.000 Hi Alex, we just love you so much.

01:41:53.000 We love you Lola.

01:41:56.000 We've done a lot of things to change and prep for our family.

01:41:59.000 You know, the other day though, as far as this FEMA exercise, my husband was at the Home Depot and he saw some German soldiers.

01:42:10.000 They weren't in uniform.

01:42:11.000 He said, these are military.

01:42:12.000 He's ex-military.

01:42:14.000 And they were talking German.

01:42:15.000 And then the one guy, he didn't respond.

01:42:17.000 They were almost talking to him.

01:42:19.000 And then the one guy says, Let's start the war!

01:42:23.000 So they're out here doing their exercises.

01:42:25.000 We noticed a great big Homeland Security building on Pecos Boulevard out here.

01:42:30.000 This is pretty real.

01:42:31.000 Wait a minute, the German soldiers were stomping around shooting their mounds off?

01:42:35.000 Yeah, right out in the Home Depot parking lot.

01:42:38.000 So he was talking to them and were they guilty?

01:42:40.000 He wasn't talking to them.

01:42:41.000 They were talking real loud so that he could hear.

01:42:44.000 You know, and then he didn't respond.

01:42:48.000 And he was busy working.

01:42:50.000 He was getting a part for his job.

01:42:52.000 And, uh, so he's like, wow, you know, and then they said, let's start the war in English, you know, and he was stationed.

01:42:58.000 They can't wait to take on the American people.

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01:46:30.000 I want to try to jam in.

01:46:31.000 Who's up next here on the list?

01:46:32.000 I got so many calls I can't keep track of them all, John.

01:46:34.000 Alright, Josh in Oregon and a few others.

01:46:37.000 We're going to get to you here in just a minute.

01:46:41.000 I see a John in Oregon.

01:46:42.000 I don't see a Josh.

01:46:45.000 John in Oregon, okay.

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01:46:59.000 I always get distracted because I've got a TV on with the Infowars cover page and all the new headlines Kurt's adding.

01:47:04.000 It just keeps freaking me out looking across.

01:47:06.000 NGOs suggest elderly should be the first to go in the pandemic and not be given treatment.

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01:47:16.000 And the shot hurts you. 0.99

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01:49:12.000 Okay, let's jam in two final calls here.

01:49:14.000 John in Oregon.

01:49:16.000 Go ahead, John.

01:49:17.000 Hello, can you hear me?

01:49:18.000 Yes, sir!

01:49:19.000 Loud and clear!

01:49:20.000 Right.

01:49:21.000 Actually, I was calling the Lars Larson Show.

01:49:23.000 I want to speak with a congressman, but I'm going to put this out for everybody because I think some of the questions should always be asked of every congressman and every senator.

01:49:33.000 Are they going to be joining the same medical coverage and programs that we will?

01:49:41.000 No, they have their own special medical coverage.

01:49:44.000 They're just going to start fining everybody to get worthless insurance where they're going to give you an aspirin for a heart attack like the Soviet Union. 0.97

01:49:51.000 Appreciate your call.

01:49:52.000 Glad you found the Lars Larson Show.

01:49:54.000 Lars Larson.

01:49:55.000 I've been on his show a few times.

01:49:57.000 Hell, Peanut had to have me back on.

01:49:59.000 I'm just joking.

01:50:00.000 He's a nice neocon.

01:50:02.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mike in Minnesota.

01:50:05.000 Last caller.

01:50:06.000 Take us out, Mike.

01:50:07.000 Hey, Alex.

01:50:08.000 Been a long time.

01:50:09.000 When I called in was New York City when they started the bag searches.

01:50:13.000 You know, a long time listener.

01:50:15.000 A big supporter.

01:50:16.000 What's on your mind?

01:50:16.000 Well, great!

01:50:17.000 Recommendation to folks.

01:50:18.000 I'm sorry?

01:50:19.000 What's on your mind?

01:50:20.000 We're almost out of time.

01:50:21.000 Recommendation to folks on the birth issue.

01:50:24.000 If you don't have it, I have a certificate of why a birth is the same deal they're trying to say is the real deal.

01:50:29.000 Call and get it.

01:50:31.000 Case example.

01:50:32.000 They've sealed it.

01:50:34.000 Well, you can call and get your own and show people how easy it is to get it.

01:50:38.000 Oh, that's a great point!

01:50:39.000 Why are they doing that?

01:50:40.000 Great point.

01:50:43.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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