Alex Jones Show - 20090817_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:06.000 Webster Griffin Tarfully.

00:00:08.000 We've got him for an hour.

00:00:08.000 We have a surprise guest next hour.

00:00:11.000 And boy, I do mean surprise.

00:00:12.000 And that guest is only with us for 30 minutes.

00:00:14.000 So in the last 30 minutes, I will do a focused report.

00:00:18.000 I promise.

00:00:20.000 On the government will hype swine flu outbreak to save Obamacare warns Dick Armey.

00:00:28.000 We have Congressman Brown saying they're going to use it to stage martial law.

00:00:32.000 We have the Governor's Association sending a letter to Congress and the Department of Defense saying you can't put regular army to patrol America.

00:00:42.000 400,000 total in deposit commentatus, total military dictatorship.

00:00:48.000 It is now actually happening here in the good old U.S.

00:00:52.000 of A.

00:00:54.000 So that is coming up and how that ties into all these flu vaccine deaths, Gillian Bernays disease, a bunch of others.

00:01:02.000 It is all coming up today in the last 30 minutes after our surprise guest.

00:01:09.000 But for the balance of this hour, Webster Griffin Tarpley is on.

00:01:12.000 I wasn't on for two hours today.

00:01:13.000 We had to switch our top guest.

00:01:17.000 So, Webster will probably be back the next week with nothing but solutions, but I want him to give us a taste of those at the end of this hour.

00:01:24.000 But right now, talking to Webster Griffin Tarpley, I wanted to go into the second front opening up, not just conservatives and anti-big government people waking up in the town hall meetings, And his approval ratings dropping three points last week.

00:01:42.000 Depending on which poll you look at, he has a 47 at the top to a 42 at the bottom with Gallup and Rasmussen and all these other polls.

00:01:54.000 We've got them linked up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:01:59.000 But I wanted to feed into Tarpley's political brain data I've noticed as well and get his take on that after we talk about the second front and his idea of getting Cindy Sheehan while Obama's on vacation for a month.

00:02:16.000 They're always planning something when that happens.

00:02:18.000 To go out and confront him or go out and stand in front of the White House to try to reignite that attention and show people that she just wasn't this leftist figure. 1.00

00:02:28.000 And that she was discarded as soon as she actually really tried to end the war. 0.97

00:02:32.000 But Webster, I understand you talk about what you've researched and what you know, but clearly you see them saying militias are about to attack, gun owners are about to attack, all gun owners are basically white supremacists that hate black people, and the DHS reports demonizing gun owners, returning veterans.

00:02:51.000 Now they're saying that, let me just finish this, now they're saying that they're planning to stage terror attacks, they're hyping all this, and I see the Obama counter, I'm just going to tell you right now, not just being flu pandemic being their cover, unless we expose it, but staging Oklahoma-style attacks domestically to shore up support for a foreign operation, or maybe finally completing the Clinton-era stage terror,

00:03:21.000 Of finally saying the homegrown terrorists are working with Al-Qaeda, a plan, a script, they planned to go with in 95, but backed off of, and just went with the homegrown.

00:03:34.000 So, I see this in the cards, I see this in the tea leaves, as I stand over the cauldron here, I'm asking you with that data, are you not seeing this chatter, or do you have a comment?

00:03:46.000 Well, I would certainly say that if you go back to the 1990s, the militias were heavily infiltrated and to some degree a project.

00:03:56.000 Some of them were founded by the FBI and by the domestic counterintelligence and counterinsurgency.

00:04:03.000 Apparatus.

00:04:04.000 And if you look in my book, 9-11 Synthetic Terror, I've got a whole thing in there about, in particular, activities of British intelligence.

00:04:11.000 Because this was the playground, in particular, of British intelligence inside the U.S.

00:04:17.000 And the advantage of using the British is that they're not susceptible to U.S.

00:04:23.000 congressional investigations.

00:04:24.000 In other words, you can do operations at arm's length.

00:04:27.000 Often, the British invite the U.S.

00:04:29.000 to come into the United Kingdom and do things for them.

00:04:32.000 And the US, the CIA and so forth will invite the British to come over here and do things.

00:04:37.000 Exactly!

00:04:37.000 They also use Andreas Strassmayer, whose father was a top SS general.

00:04:42.000 It later turned out he was.

00:04:45.000 Secret police anti-terror squad from Germany.

00:04:49.000 They brought him to honcho the white supremacist and McVeigh and others out of Elohim City.

00:04:55.000 That came out in FBI.

00:04:57.000 Documents.

00:04:57.000 So, I knew you'd be up on this.

00:04:59.000 I know Synthetic Terror covers it.

00:05:01.000 It's now coming out that Hal Turner was an FBI informant.

00:05:04.000 The FBI admits that in court.

00:05:06.000 It's now turning out that almost all these major white supremacist groups are not infiltrated, but run by the Feds, by the British, by the Germans, and by Israel.

00:05:15.000 Israel Uh, is, uh, is, uh, also, uh, you know, you have these white supremacist commanders with classic, you know, Jewish archetypal Ashkenazi features.

00:05:25.000 I've been to some of these events to protest them, and it's like, my God, there's the ADL on stage.

00:05:29.000 Like, Adam Gadon, the Al-Qaeda leader, you know, ADL grandson, you know, the grandson of the ADL head, uh, arrested for beating up Muslims, and then suddenly he joins, and he's the guy fighting Al-Qaeda.

00:05:39.000 So, great points.

00:05:40.000 Elaborate on that, because I see them rolling that out now.

00:05:45.000 Well, the Ku Klux Klan, just to focus on them, the Ku Klux Klan is, as far as I can see, a wholly owned subsidiary of the FBI and nothing but.

00:05:56.000 So this is an apparatus of domestic provocateurs, and you're very right to say now the way that the ideological conflict is going, right, the ideological fronts are turning once again.

00:06:09.000 And there obviously is a temptation to begin this demonization.

00:06:12.000 And when you see that Southern Poverty Law Center getting into the act, that is a group of shills, basically. 0.58

00:06:18.000 They are paid apologists.

00:06:21.000 They are there to provide some kind of a halfway plausible academic sounding explanation for whatever the Counterinsurgency line inside the United States may happen to be.

00:06:35.000 So the fact that they point to this, we also have the Secretary of Homeland Security, Napolitano, otherwise known as Totalitariano, and her idea that, right, the veterans and the right-wingers and all this.

00:06:48.000 So that's the atmospheric, and then you get a certain number of patsies, right?

00:06:52.000 Look out for patsies, because that's always how it's done.

00:06:56.000 And, you know, the attempt to try to mesh, you know, Al-Qaeda shows up somewhere in North Carolina or whatever this is, right?

00:07:04.000 And they're all from the FBI.

00:07:07.000 I think that indicates a possible direction.

00:07:10.000 I don't think it's conclusive.

00:07:11.000 But the more you talk about it, the better it is, right?

00:07:13.000 The more this is ventilated and aired and people are inoculated.

00:07:18.000 Tell people that if this happens, this is 99.99% guaranteed to be a top-down false flag operation using patsies, using moles inside the government, and then using those technicians, right?

00:07:31.000 If any big heavy operations have to be done, they're going to have to use government resources, so that will require the presence of technicians and moles. 0.72

00:07:40.000 Let me stop you there.

00:07:41.000 So it's a classical typology of what's going on.

00:07:44.000 I don't think that's the only one because there are competing priorities, right?

00:07:48.000 There's a great desire to get something going vis-a-vis somebody, right, be it Sudan or Pakistan or Russia or China.

00:07:56.000 I want to look at the geopolitical operations outside North America, and I agree, they're going to hit us all.

00:08:05.000 They're going to have stage terror overseas, stage terror domestically.

00:08:07.000 They're going to have other economic crises, hyped up environmental crises, biological, medical.

00:08:15.000 I agree, Webster.

00:08:17.000 That's why I wanted to get your take on this.

00:08:19.000 When I interrupted you earlier, the British really are the masters of divide and conquer. 1.00

00:08:23.000 Great game.

00:08:24.000 That was even Orwell's job as a member of the Imperial Police, as you know, when he grew up in India, before he had his first awakening to one level of the control paradigm.

00:08:34.000 But expanding Uh, on that Webster.

00:08:37.000 It was the British, now declassified and admitted, as you know but the listeners may not, that staged over 90% of the terror attacks in Northern Ireland and in England.

00:08:48.000 And it turned out that you would have the top three guys in the military IRA were all British intel.

00:08:53.000 And they were actually killing lower members of IRA if they wouldn't go out and kill British policemen as a pretext to stay in Northern Ireland.

00:09:00.000 So it's very, very elementary to keep occupation imperial forces in the country, to occupy the United States with federal troops.

00:09:08.000 They're going to need to stage terror to have the pretext that there's some type of hidden phantom menace that they're fighting.

00:09:14.000 And you're right.

00:09:15.000 We have tracked British intel.

00:09:17.000 I've actually had to deal years ago with attempted British intel insertion into our operation.

00:09:24.000 And I want the British to know we were aware of that.

00:09:26.000 I'm now revealing this for the first time.

00:09:27.000 Go ahead.

00:09:28.000 Well, in my book, again, 9-11 Synthetic Terror, I tell the story of Agent Steakknife.

00:09:34.000 He was codenamed Steakknife, and this was somebody that the MI5, MI6 had put into the top levels of the IRA, and his job was to kill people, and they also had agents in this other side, right?

00:09:50.000 The Protestant counter-gang to the IRA counter-gang.

00:09:54.000 Well, the Orange, in this case, it's the Protestant extremist group.

00:09:59.000 So they were orchestrating a series of homicides, and this went right up to Thatcher.

00:10:05.000 Thatcher was absolutely informed of everything.

00:10:08.000 Wonderful Maggie Thatcher, the goddess of the neocons and so many others, and the goddess of the free marketeers, too, because they think she was the embodiment of their policies.

00:10:17.000 I guess she was.

00:10:19.000 She was actively running these kinds of operations. 0.97

00:10:25.000 I just wanted to point out to listeners this is a fact that governments do this and it's a historical fact so we need people to realize this is an official army field manuals that we showed people last week we're just talking about Something as a matter of fact as hammers and saws and lawnmowers being available at Home Depot.

00:10:47.000 We're stating that ducks swim around in ponds or that fish swim around in lakes.

00:10:53.000 I hope listeners understand what you're stating is a historical fact, Webster.

00:10:58.000 Yeah, this is probably the most documented historical fact that we can bring to bear.

00:11:04.000 I mean, it's been confirmed, you know.

00:11:06.000 Hundreds of times, maybe thousands of times.

00:11:08.000 Like going back, my God, to the ancient world.

00:11:11.000 So, uh, I don't think there's any doubt about it.

00:11:14.000 And the implication of Thatcher in this stuff, and you know, we can go back to the cases now in the United States, right?

00:11:22.000 The various stunts that have been done.

00:11:24.000 And as time goes on, you get more and more background.

00:11:27.000 So, certainly, if there's terrorism, look to the intelligence agencies, because that's the matrix.

00:11:36.000 Our guest is Webster Griffin Tarpley.

00:11:38.000 We'll look at the geopolitical front, then we're gonna get a little bit more into eugenics, and then some solutions.

00:11:43.000 And I promise, next week, Webster Tarpley, full hour, on nothing but solutions.

00:11:47.000 But things are moving so fast, they could stage a terror attack before the next time he's on.

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00:15:52.000 In the last 30 minutes of the show, I'm also going to bring down the incredible success of the Obama poster campaign.

00:16:15.000 Hey, I'm flattered!

00:16:16.000 Cindy Sheehan was listening to the show when I was talking about Webster.

00:16:23.000 I don't know if Webster's really involved.

00:16:24.000 I talked to him the other day.

00:16:25.000 I talked to him Sunday.

00:16:27.000 I talked to him yesterday, and he said, I'm trying to get Cindy Sheehan to go confront Obama.

00:16:30.000 We need to fund her. 1.00

00:16:32.000 We need to get behind her.

00:16:34.000 And here I am doing Tarpley invitations while he's on with us.

00:16:37.000 We love Tarpley around here.

00:16:38.000 Because I see him so much.

00:16:40.000 He's in the last Obama film.

00:16:41.000 I've known him for years.

00:16:42.000 He's in the new Obama film.

00:16:44.000 So I look at Tarpley every day. 0.97

00:16:45.000 We interview him all the time.

00:16:47.000 He's kind of like a little mascot.

00:16:49.000 A little Leonardo da Vinci of the liberty movement.

00:16:52.000 Here at the office.

00:16:54.000 I have another nickname for Tarpley.

00:16:57.000 Anyways, Tarbly, I'm- Alex, if I may, just one thing.

00:17:00.000 Just a correction.

00:17:01.000 Cindy Sheehan is going because she decided to go.

00:17:04.000 I simply had gotten an email saying that she wanted to go and that she wanted to assemble the prerequisite.

00:17:12.000 So I was simply reporting that.

00:17:14.000 So this is all coming from her.

00:17:15.000 Okay, great.

00:17:16.000 Yeah, because, I mean, I talked to you during a one-minute part of a break when you were on with Burma, so I just heard you saying, get Sheehan, support her, get her to go to wherever Obama's vacationing, and I was like, okay, so, but, pointless to argue about that.

00:17:31.000 The point is, she's coming on in ten minutes for five minutes with you, Webster.

00:17:35.000 The issue is, she's listening right now.

00:17:38.000 Wonderful, and again, let me say this, the credit all goes to her, nothing to do with me.

00:17:43.000 Okay, well nobody cares Webster, that's fine, Webster.

00:17:45.000 Although I welcome it, I think everybody, let me call now, everybody should support this, everybody should go, supporter.

00:17:51.000 This is a wonderful thing, and this is now the, if you want to somehow break into this right-wing polarization that you're talking about in the earlier part, right, the idea of using The demonization of conservatives or whoever they are, right, people that are considered right-wingers, then the obvious way to do that is the rebirth of the peace movement and people that would generally be considered leftist, because this is harder to demonize.

00:18:19.000 And that's what I've always said, is that attacks against Obama coming from his left are much more effective than the kind of stuff you've seen.

00:18:27.000 Well, that's why the Obama deception, that's why the Obama deception, Webster, is so important, is because it doesn't attack from the left or right.

00:18:34.000 It attacks from common sense, populist, constitutionalist, and shows how both parties are controlled by these corrupt banks.

00:18:41.000 And then the partisanship all ends, and people instantly break their conditioning.

00:18:46.000 But look, she's coming up next segment in about 15 minutes, so I want to get into the second front opening up against Hare Obama then.

00:18:55.000 Right now, we were talking about false flag.

00:18:57.000 The ace in the hole that the establishment has to play on us.

00:19:01.000 You were talking about outside the country.

00:19:04.000 What geopolitical regions?

00:19:06.000 Are we looking at Central Asia, Middle East, Europe?

00:19:10.000 Where will the establishment stage terror next?

00:19:13.000 Well, that's obviously anybody's guess, but if we look at Afghanistan, the big operation by Obama right now is the massive escalation of the war in Afghanistan.

00:19:24.000 He's put a guy in there, General McChrystal, who is someone who is certified to have created a network of torture chambers across Iraq.

00:19:34.000 When you think of Obama's rhetoric in running for president, it makes this whole thing extremely laughable.

00:19:41.000 Really a bitter, macabre irony.

00:19:43.000 So, Obama's hand-picked commander to go into Afghanistan, replacing the previous general, Who was simply, uh, McKiernan, who was simply thrown out, right, very brusquely, and, uh, a lot of people in the Pentagon very angry about that, the way it was done.

00:19:58.000 This guy's a special forces utopian, so that means that he's into doing things like working with the Taliban, working with Al-Qaeda, working with various warlords and so forth.

00:20:09.000 Uh, the danger there, of course, is that, uh, with the ten-year war perspective and, uh, and the losses that are now escalating, Some countries may want to drop out.

00:20:18.000 How could you stop them from dropping out?

00:20:19.000 Well, you could, for example, if the British are about to drop out, then maybe some staged event regarding Britain could... A replay of 7-7.

00:20:30.000 The British are about to pull out of the Glen Eagles.

00:20:33.000 Boom.

00:20:33.000 Go ahead.

00:20:34.000 And continental Europe also.

00:20:36.000 So that would be one opportunity.

00:20:37.000 The other thing would be if the breakup of Pakistan is taking too long, Then, something involving a group that advertises itself as coming from inside Pakistan.

00:20:49.000 And they have them, right?

00:20:50.000 The Taliban are basically Pashtunistan. 0.99

00:20:53.000 That's one of the components of Pakistan.

00:20:56.000 And then you have Balochistan, right?

00:20:58.000 In Balochistan, they have this Jundala.

00:21:00.000 So, Jundala comes on the scene.

00:21:02.000 That's a U.S.-British-run operation, and therefore you can go into Pakistan based on that.

00:21:09.000 How about Sudan?

00:21:10.000 There's a lot of bad blood.

00:21:14.000 Bashir, General Bashir, the head of state, has been indicted by the International Criminal Court.

00:21:18.000 But the entire African Union has rejected the International Criminal Court as a bunch of racists and colonialists. 0.59

00:21:24.000 So, if you want to get something started there, maybe a Sudanese terrorist would suit the bill. 1.00

00:21:32.000 Webster Tarpley, stay there.

00:21:33.000 We'll come back, get into Obama's plunging approval ratings, then we'll talk about the peace activist, second front, Obama's left flank.

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00:25:22.000 Cindy Sheehan is going to be popping in in about 10 minutes.

00:25:25.000 She just put out a new press release today.

00:25:28.000 Cindy Sheehan to lead protests against wars near Obama's vacation spot on Martha's Vineyard.

00:25:34.000 So a replay of what we saw with her out at Crawford.

00:25:39.000 And as long as she was useful to the Democrats, she was great.

00:25:42.000 But as soon as they got into power, or were getting ready to, and wanted to continue the wars, well now, no.

00:25:48.000 So that's coming up.

00:25:49.000 Before we go back to Webster Griffin Tarpley, I've never had a t-shirt this popular.

00:25:56.000 The Obama Socialist, Obama Fascist, ObamaInfoWars.com, Obama New World Order.

00:26:02.000 We have four different variants on the front, four different messages on the back, like, end the Fed, stop the criminal, wake up before it's too late, with Infowars.com under it on the back, with Obama on the front.

00:26:15.000 This upsets the establishment.

00:26:16.000 They know the power of archetypal images.

00:26:18.000 They want this loving, Leninesque image of him, hope and change.

00:26:22.000 They do not want this image of him as a master criminal.

00:26:26.000 Our contest went more viral than I could ever imagine.

00:26:30.000 AP, Fox News, All over international Spanish television out of Mexico.

00:26:39.000 The posters printed off Infowars.com were put up in Tokyo, San Francisco, Rio de Janeiro.

00:26:46.000 They were put up in Moscow.

00:26:48.000 They were just wild and it's still going on.

00:26:52.000 They have the State Attorney General in Florida investigating and calling it a hate crime and all this unbelievable bull.

00:27:00.000 But you read the articles The comments in the articles in the newspapers that with a straight face talk about the scared community, the victims of seeing the Obama poster on street corners.

00:27:12.000 But the public's finding all the statements of Obama thanking his supporters for putting up his picture on stop signs, which is illegal.

00:27:20.000 We haven't called for that.

00:27:22.000 We've said do it in legal and lawful areas.

00:27:24.000 They're aware that this is hypocrisy.

00:27:26.000 They're aware that Bush was shown as a vampire and as a joker by yours truly as well, not just the media.

00:27:32.000 And there was none of this ninnying and hand-wringing at the demigod, the fuhrer, the one, the chosen one. 0.65

00:27:40.000 And so what happened is the public saw them ripping him down all over and went crazy and put up 10 times, 20 times more.

00:27:47.000 So it's out of my hands now.

00:27:49.000 It's way past the contest.

00:27:50.000 We'll announce the winner and show you the videos Friday.

00:27:54.000 Videos are still pouring in, hundreds and hundreds of videos.

00:27:59.000 It's unbelievable, the people putting the posters up.

00:28:01.000 Webster, before we get into the second front opening up against the Obamanoids and the globalist establishment, is it important to pull down his image and to defile him as the image of our Lord and Savior, so that he can't be this tool to carry out this agenda? 0.98

00:28:19.000 Is it American to put up posters of him in a bad light, or should we be arrested for that?

00:28:26.000 I think it's a tremendous tradition of democratic expression to engage in political caricature, and that can become quite vigorous and quite robust.

00:28:38.000 And again, I would vote for the fascist one, because I think that is the one that is technically accurate. 0.94

00:28:47.000 And the most damaging, because remember, Obama lives on left cover.

00:28:53.000 He's got to be seen as a progressive, a leftist, he's got to be seen as a friend of the masses, somebody who cares about the poor, who cares about the people who don't have health insurance, who cares about people who are denied medical care.

00:29:06.000 This is the key to his entire racket.

00:29:09.000 And I've talked to leftists and they say, we have to be nice to Obama because we're going to court him and curry favor with him and we're going to get our little cause advanced, whatever it is that they're interested in.

00:29:21.000 And I always say, this is exactly wrong.

00:29:23.000 The way you deal with Obama, from the left in particular, is you criticize him mercilessly.

00:29:28.000 You expose him.

00:29:29.000 You attack him.

00:29:31.000 You caricature him.

00:29:32.000 You tear away this aura and show him for what he is.

00:29:35.000 In other words, political realism.

00:29:37.000 Since he needs that left cover, if you begin to strip away the left cover, then he's got to do something.

00:29:45.000 He's got to give you concessions.

00:29:46.000 He's got to throw you a shock.

00:29:48.000 The lesbian, gay, transgender people, when they were boycotting a fundraiser that Obama had set up so they would come and give him money, they found that they were able to get concessions from Obama immediately.

00:30:01.000 He gave them same-sex marriage partner rights for certain federal employees.

00:30:07.000 In a limited way, but certainly it was a step forward for them.

00:30:10.000 And I think that's paradigmatic.

00:30:12.000 If you're the peace movement and you want to do something about these war policies, the only thing to do is get into the field and begin to criticize Obama, attack him, right?

00:30:24.000 From the point of view of the media, vilify him, certainly.

00:30:27.000 The same thing with Bush. 0.98

00:30:29.000 And Webster, Webster, and show the hypocrisy. 0.95

00:30:32.000 They have the CPAC meeting this year. 0.53

00:30:34.000 Ron Paul spoke.

00:30:35.000 All your most staunch Republican supporters there.

00:30:39.000 They were cheering and standing, the majority of them, when he said it's not Republican to have wars.

00:30:45.000 These wars were wrong.

00:30:47.000 Showing most Republicans aren't pro-war.

00:30:49.000 That illusion shattering.

00:30:51.000 Same thing with Democrats now.

00:30:52.000 They've got to stand up at how outrageous total number of troops In countries is up, total number of dead is going back up again.

00:31:01.000 How did you know this though?

00:31:03.000 Because back during the campaign you said, left cover is what he needs.

00:31:09.000 Only an attack from the left will help.

00:31:11.000 He will love a limbaugh.

00:31:13.000 He will make Limbaugh his enemy.

00:31:15.000 And then it turned out, White House memos came out that they love making it about Limbaugh as they run against him, discredited with the Viagra and the Hillbilly heroin, the Oxycontin, all the weirdness.

00:31:30.000 and and all the craziness in him drug out of his mind at cpac and any day you were right about that and so you're absolutely right they need to not just have left cover they want to run him against the more buffoonish type republicans certainly people people like limbo and had to be argued as ogres by probably two-thirds maybe somewhat less than two-thirds now I I think you know that there's been up I

00:31:57.000 I disagree with them totally, especially on economics, but that's another story.

00:32:02.000 If you can play yourself, if it's a choice between Obama and Limbaugh, then Obama's going to win by 70-30 or 80-20 or whatever it is.

00:32:11.000 It's going to be a small and vocal minority that will go with Limbaugh.

00:32:14.000 So as long as you can define that as the universe of discourse, then Obama wins.

00:32:19.000 Now the critical thing about the second front, Obama is in Phoenix, Arizona today, I believe.

00:32:24.000 This is the Veterans of Foreign Wars Convention.

00:32:27.000 There is an anti-war protest contingent there.

00:32:30.000 So, I think the palm goes to them.

00:32:32.000 I think this is, as far as I can see, the first significant anti-war demonstration anywhere is taking place in Phoenix, Arizona today.

00:32:40.000 So, hats off to those guys.

00:32:42.000 I hope they're vigorous.

00:32:44.000 Generally, it takes a while for people to realize the cynicism and the warmonger commitment of Obama.

00:32:51.000 Remember, Obama ran as the biggest warmonger.

00:32:54.000 Bigger than McCain.

00:32:56.000 Bigger than Hillary. 0.98

00:32:57.000 Bigger than Bush.

00:32:58.000 He was the one who said, I want the unilateral bombing of Northwest Pakistan with no consultation of the government. 0.99

00:33:05.000 We want to kill Pakistanis on their own territory. 1.00

00:33:09.000 But it's worse than that. 1.00

00:33:10.000 He didn't just run as a big warmonger.

00:33:12.000 He, early on, got the poll position and got noticed and came to the fore by being super anti-war.

00:33:19.000 I'm going to end the Iraq War immediately. 0.97

00:33:21.000 Then it was 16 months and 23 months and then they rewrote cities so bases wouldn't be in the cities.

00:33:27.000 A semantical...

00:33:28.000 Game.

00:33:29.000 He rotated troops out of Iraq, those that did leave, to Afghanistan.

00:33:33.000 Now he's replacing the troops in Iraq.

00:33:35.000 So duplicity, lying, twisting, all the things you've talked about.

00:33:39.000 Then he flip-flopped right into the campaign the last few months saying, I'm going to be where we need to be.

00:33:45.000 And as you said, now a huge new war in Afghanistan.

00:33:48.000 Is that over those pipelines?

00:33:50.000 Or, I mean, they've got to know it's a war they're not going to win.

00:33:55.000 No, it's not a war to win, it's a war to create chaos.

00:33:58.000 And remember, the escalation of Afghanistan is a function of the plan to destroy Pakistan, to break it up into mini-states and micro-states, right? 0.95

00:34:08.000 The five components, Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan, Pashtunistan, Waziristan, or tribal areas, whatever you want to call that.

00:34:15.000 And the goal there is that this is a Chinese ally.

00:34:18.000 Remember, the battlefield is now the Indian Ocean, from Africa to Bangladesh to Pakistan, over to Thailand, right? 0.70

00:34:25.000 We got Tsu Chi in Burma, and an anti-Chinese function. 0.93

00:34:28.000 So the idea is anybody who is friendly with China is now a target.

00:34:33.000 Anybody who wants normal commercial relations, wants to sell oil, sell minerals, sell strategic raw materials, Do deals with the Chinese, you become an enemy of civilization. 1.00

00:34:43.000 You become an effective terrorist, except now you're going to be more than a terrorist.

00:34:47.000 You're going to be a human rights abuser. 0.86

00:34:48.000 You're going to be a nuclear proliferator. 0.90

00:34:51.000 You're going to be a humanitarian disaster.

00:34:53.000 So, that's the targeting.

00:34:55.000 Okay, stay there Webster.

00:34:56.000 We're going to get back into what's happening geopolitically in about five minutes, but I wanted, since you brought up the fact of, it's great that she was considering, you'd heard, going out and speaking out, because now that archetypal image of Cindy Sheehan to expose the foundation, big money run, fake war movement, and to expose Obama for what he is, she's put out a press release Cindy Sheehan to lead protests against wars near Obama's vacation spot on Martha's Vineyard.

00:35:25.000 Let's get this up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:35:28.000 Guys, please have Rob Dew tell the webmasters to post this.

00:35:31.000 And everybody, go there and expose him as a warmonger.

00:35:37.000 Cindy Sheehan, great to have you pop in with us today.

00:35:40.000 Hey Alex, always nice to be on with you.

00:35:43.000 Always good to have you here.

00:35:44.000 Okay, in a nutshell, tell us where you're going and what you're doing.

00:35:48.000 I heard back in June that Obama would be vacationing on Martha's Vineyard in August, so we've been trying to put together a protest against him, and finally everything came together this weekend where it looks like we'll be able to go out there.

00:36:05.000 Part of the problem, and I heard you guys talking about it a little bit, is that the so-called anti-war movement doesn't want to have anything focused On Obama against the occupations and the wars of Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq.

00:36:21.000 And, you know, Iraq's not over yet.

00:36:23.000 And so, anyway, we've been, we've come up against some considerable resistance from the left.

00:36:30.000 But then, over this past week, when it looks like, oh, you know, this big debate about healthcare and, you know, all these Um, you know, the right playing into the hands of the Democratic Party that doesn't want to give a public option for health care.

00:36:45.000 And so it looks like the White House is caving into that.

00:36:48.000 And I'm like, well, why don't we on the left, the anti-war left, go out and exert pressure on him to start bringing the troops on from the Middle East and actually to, you know, enforce some kind of same foreign policy instead of I think that of course the wars are for chaos, but the wars are also for profit.

00:37:09.000 So we have to exert the same kind of pressure, because if Obama can fold to the right, why can't he also fold to the left?

00:37:16.000 Well, Cindy Sheehan, of course, lost her son over in Iraq, and is one of the big iconic images the last six, seven years, exposing these fraudulent wars of hegemon. 0.95

00:37:32.000 How do we expose the fact that the anti-war movement is foundation funded and demand that they stand up to Obama?

00:37:40.000 I mean, I guess we do what you're doing.

00:37:43.000 Go out and expose that fraud or any other ideas of how we can get that done?

00:37:50.000 Well, I certainly think that we have to remain consistent and pure.

00:37:56.000 and try not to be co-opted by the same forces that co-opted many large anti-war groups in this country.

00:38:02.000 And so we need to just, you know, stay pure and stay focused.

00:38:07.000 And this isn't getting quite the attention that going out to the Bush ramps got.

00:38:12.000 So, you know, there's a lot of false debates going on, so we need to redirect it where the debate needs to be, And that's ending this empire, this military-industrial empire.

00:38:27.000 And, um, we can't get anything else done in this country until that happens.

00:38:33.000 And so hopefully when I go out to Martha's Vineyard, like when I went to Crawford, Texas, the press will be there, people will start being able to hear that message.

00:38:42.000 There's many people on the so-called left I still think Obama is some kind of a peace person.

00:38:48.000 So we really, that really needs to be exposed, and that myth... Well, that's because his election, obviously, has been used to totally get all these issues off the table.

00:38:59.000 It's la-la land. 0.99

00:39:00.000 The establishment craftily did that, making the war like it was just Bush's and not the establishment that controls both these presidents.

00:39:08.000 But Cindy, overall, and I want to get Webster's comment on this, the incredible drop of Obama.

00:39:14.000 His polls have gone from the 80s to the mid-40s now.

00:39:18.000 He lost three points last week, lowest approval rating of any president eight months into their administration.

00:39:24.000 Are you worried about him staging any type of crises or terror attack, like we saw from Bush, as a pretext to try to continue this agenda?

00:39:34.000 Well, you know, that's a concern that we always have to worry about, but that doesn't mean that we, you know, quit our activism or quit speaking the truth to the power, that we have to go forward.

00:39:50.000 And we have to, first of all, you know, I support 100% the 9-11 truth movement, and I support the ballot initiative in New York City to get a new investigation going.

00:40:05.000 But that's one thing that needs to be exposed over and over and over again, It's how our governments do have these, you know, and I'm not...

00:40:12.000 I don't know.

00:40:13.000 I don't know who caused 9-11.

00:40:14.000 I know you guys know.

00:40:16.000 I don't know who caused it.

00:40:17.000 But over and over and over again, we have these so-called disasters that get us into one war after the other.

00:40:23.000 But not just wars.

00:40:24.000 Having our civil liberties taken away here at home.

00:40:27.000 We just have to keep talking about it.

00:40:31.000 We can't let them get away with another event like that.

00:40:35.000 Well, Ms. 0.85

00:40:36.000 Sheehan, you know that It came out about Gulf of Tonkin and all these other staged events.

00:40:43.000 It's an Army Manual.

00:40:49.000 Miss Cindy, I'm thinking about staged events though.

00:40:56.000 We know about Gulf of Tonkin.

00:40:57.000 We know about other events.

00:40:59.000 We know Cheney did want to blow up US ships and blame it on Iran.

00:41:05.000 I think we defeat their false flag by pointing out that they may engage in false flag.

00:41:15.000 And by not letting them play us off against each other in the left-right paradigm, which is very, very hard to do as they polarize things.

00:41:22.000 Webster, any questions or comments for Cindy Sheehan?

00:41:25.000 I think that's wonderful news.

00:41:26.000 And the only question I have is, Cindy, how can people support you?

00:41:29.000 Is there a website?

00:41:30.000 Is there a PayPal?

00:41:32.000 How can people link up and how can they support you financially?

00:41:35.000 That's an awesome, awesome question.

00:41:38.000 You can go to CindySheehanSoFox.com.

00:41:40.000 There's a donate button.

00:41:43.000 And if you do use PayPal, my account is Cindy at CindyCNSoapbox.com.

00:41:53.000 And we just have to use all the tools that we have to expose the, you know, the robber class that I call them.

00:42:01.000 It's all about the robber class, and it's all about this divide, and Bush and Obama are both members of it, and it's not about the person Exactly.

00:42:14.000 The President, the personality becomes the distraction, the diversion from the real debate and the real issues.

00:42:21.000 Well, hopefully we can get you to pop in then when you're out there demonstrating from Martha's Vineyard.

00:42:28.000 Thank you so much, Cindy Sheehan.

00:42:29.000 We'll get it up on the website.

00:42:31.000 God bless you.

00:42:32.000 Take care.

00:42:32.000 - Bye-bye. - Webster, we're gonna come back, closing five minutes from you.

00:42:36.000 Then we've got our surprise guest scheduled coming up in the final hour today.

00:42:40.000 I will just leave it at that for everybody.

00:42:44.000 So stay with us.

00:42:45.000 We'll be right back.

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00:46:09.000 We took a little bacon and we took a little beans and we caught the bloody British in a town in New Orleans. 1.00

00:46:14.000 We fired our guns and the British kept a-comin'. 1.00

00:46:17.000 There wasn't... Again, I do hope everybody visits InfoWars.com to get their Obama Joker posters.

00:46:23.000 We also have one as Bush as the Joker. 0.52

00:46:26.000 I haven't gone this far yet, but I would guess that Tarpley does agree that Obama as Hitler might be a fair comparison, or maybe Obama as Mussolini.

00:46:40.000 Mussolini is the adequate one.

00:46:42.000 Yeah, we'll have you back up next week to really get into solutions, I promise.

00:46:46.000 If you can do it, we'll set the tone up right.

00:46:48.000 But let me just stress, if I could, that Cindy Sheehan is a great voice and a great cause, and now Any peace activist in New England, if you're in Boston, if you're in New York City, you know what to do.

00:47:01.000 It's time to make tracks towards Martha's Vineyard and exercise your First Amendment rights.

00:47:08.000 And protest these wars.

00:47:11.000 And don't be fooled by left cover.

00:47:14.000 And the way to do this is not to be exaggeratedly deferential. 0.95

00:47:20.000 You know, please, dear Mr. President, we know you're a peace angel, but you haven't had time to listen to our pathetic little bleeding cries. 0.54

00:47:29.000 Which is what the AWOL peace people have done, right? 0.66

00:47:32.000 The people who have just disappeared.

00:47:34.000 Now we've got the genuine leader of this movement coming forward, I think, quite effectively, saying that this has gone far enough and it's time to take a stand.

00:47:44.000 This is really going to hurt Obama.

00:47:46.000 Because how do you demonize Cindy Sheehan?

00:47:48.000 You're not going to be able to say, you know, come out with this load of insult.

00:47:53.000 She was demonized by the neocons back in 2005, 2006. 0.89

00:47:58.000 What are they going to do?

00:47:58.000 Demonize her now from the left?

00:48:00.000 It doesn't work.

00:48:01.000 So this is a significant factor now in Obama's predicament.

00:48:05.000 Well, Webster, what they're going to do is, they're going to ignore.

00:48:10.000 Well, look, the U.S.

00:48:12.000 media may ignore her up to a point, but remember, the world media will be there.

00:48:18.000 The Russians, the Chinese, Al Jazeera, they're going to be highly interested.

00:48:23.000 So this is going to have a worldwide effect, and I think that then kicks over back into the U.S., because when it becomes a story around the world, they can't ignore it here.

00:48:32.000 Yeah, that's what I was trying to say there.

00:48:35.000 We also, though, have to, as activists getting past these political labels, say no and be involved here as well.

00:48:43.000 Webster, I carry all four of your books for listeners, and we have the book on the economic cataclysm, we have the two books on Obama, and the book Synthetic Terror, all available at InfoWars.com or by calling toll-free 888-253-3139.

00:48:59.000 Webster, as always, thank you so much.

00:49:01.000 Webster's in our film, The Obama Deception.

00:49:03.000 He's in the new film coming out.

00:49:05.000 Uh, in, uh, October.

00:49:07.000 So again, Webster, thank you so much for spending time with us.

00:49:09.000 Bye-bye.

00:49:10.000 You bet.

00:49:10.000 Take care.

00:49:11.000 There goes Webster.

00:49:13.000 Okay, we had Alan Keyes last week, and he rescheduled a couple times.

00:49:19.000 Very busy.

00:49:20.000 Our next guest rescheduled a couple times on us.

00:49:23.000 We'll see if they show up for the show.

00:49:26.000 They haven't rescheduled, so I believe we're about to have them on after we go to break here and come back.

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00:50:44.000 this is alex jones with some important questions If you're going into a battle and they give you a rifle and a sidearm, how much ammunition do you want?

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00:51:04.000 Can you buy it without proper identification?

00:51:07.000 Will there be any food?

00:51:08.000 Will it make your children sick?

00:51:09.000 If there's a quarantine and you can't feed yourself, will you go to the gathering center and be immunized?

00:51:15.000 You wipe out all these problems if you have a good food supply.

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00:51:49.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:51:51.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I really enjoy doing this syndicated radio show because I get to talk to so many neat people.

00:52:13.000 And the new book is out.

00:52:14.000 It's already a bestseller.

00:52:15.000 Buzz Aldrin, Magnificent Desolation.

00:52:20.000 And he really doesn't need much of an introduction.

00:52:23.000 What a doctor, colonel in the military, one of the first guys to walk on the moon with Neil Armstrong.

00:52:30.000 Just amazing.

00:52:32.000 And I got his book about two weeks ago.

00:52:33.000 I've read almost all of it.

00:52:35.000 One of the best books by an astronaut I've read.

00:52:37.000 I love the name, Magnificent Desolation.

00:52:41.000 Here it is as we simulcast on the internet as well for the Prison Planet TV viewers.

00:52:48.000 Buzz Aldrin, it's great to have you here with us.

00:52:50.000 I am happy to be with you.

00:52:53.000 Life is great.

00:52:54.000 The sun is beginning to shine here in foggy LA.

00:53:00.000 Absolutely, out there in Los Angeles.

00:53:02.000 There is so much to get into.

00:53:04.000 Why the name, Magnificent Desolation?

00:53:09.000 Well, I wasn't given the challenge or really the opportunity of a formalized utterance on I'm joining Neil on the surface of the moon.

00:53:22.000 There was a little bit of conversation that included the word magnificent and then beautiful and so the two words just came together as a comparison of opposites and so I said magnificent desolation.

00:53:46.000 And the magnificence really was referring to the progress of the human species from coming down from the trees to automobiles, airplanes, rockets, spaceships, and then journeying and two people from the planet Earth walking around on that object that humans had gazed up and looked at for

00:54:15.000 All of civilization.

00:54:20.000 So that was a magnificent testimonial to the progress that this human intelligent species was able to do.

00:54:30.000 But we were there at the most desolate site I could imagine.

00:54:36.000 It had not changed in hundreds and thousands of years, hundreds of thousands of years, from just what we were looking at.

00:54:46.000 The kind of rolling terrain, all shades of gray, maybe a couple of more centimeters of dust accrued in hundreds of thousands of years.

00:55:01.000 Fourteen days of daylight, then darkness, no atmosphere, black sky, Earth sitting up there, almost straight up.

00:55:13.000 And then the sun moving over because of the moon's rotation about the earth.

00:55:20.000 Just a forbidding place.

00:55:23.000 Not at all friendly or hospitable.

00:55:29.000 So it was desolate.

00:55:31.000 We've got a break in a moment.

00:55:32.000 We've got a long summer coming up.

00:55:33.000 Plenty of time to go over the book.

00:55:34.000 But I wanted to ask you.

00:55:37.000 I mean, obviously you had fear, concern on this mission, but what was it like to actually be there and actually carry out this dangerous mission?

00:55:46.000 I mean, it's one thing to psychologically get ready for it, but another thing to actually be there.

00:55:53.000 Well, it was for several years, five, six years, the culmination of everything we had been working for

00:56:06.000 NASA since 1961 when the president said that we should go to the moon and my Air Force career piloting and studying my doctorate at MIT and manned orbital rendezvous was just all pointing toward some humans being able to get to the moon and there I was about to be one of them.

00:56:33.000 And it's not a fearful, not a scary, not a worrisome.

00:56:38.000 We learn how to deal with those things just naturally by realizing that fear, worry are all...

00:56:48.000 We've got a break.

00:56:49.000 We've got a break, Mr. Aldrin.

00:56:51.000 We'll be right back with Buzz Aldrin.

00:56:52.000 Stay with us.

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00:58:55.000 Hello, this is Alex Jones with some important questions.

00:58:58.000 If you're going into a battle and they give you a rifle and a sidearm, how much ammunition do you want?

00:59:03.000 My answer would be all I can get.

00:59:05.000 in the battle for freedom in the lives of your loved ones.

00:59:08.000 Food is your only ammunition.

00:59:10.000 How much do you want?

00:59:11.000 When do you want it?

00:59:12.000 Now or after the battle starts?

00:59:14.000 When will you need it?

00:59:15.000 Can you buy it without proper identification?

00:59:17.000 Will there be any food?

00:59:19.000 Will it make your children sick?

00:59:20.000 If there's a quarantine and you can't feed yourself, will you go to the gathering center and be immunized?

00:59:26.000 You wipe out all these problems if you have a good food supply.

00:59:29.000 Food is your ammunition to fight for your freedom and your life.

00:59:33.000 How much will you need?

00:59:34.000 We don't know.

00:59:35.000 How much do you want?

00:59:36.000 All you can get.

00:59:37.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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00:59:59.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

01:00:06.000 Well, he's buzzed all over in a second.

01:00:08.000 Hummel said he'd save me in the walk on the surface of the moon.

01:00:13.000 And he's got a long bio.

01:00:14.000 He really doesn't need any introduction.

01:00:17.000 But his new book is Magnificent Desolation.

01:00:21.000 The website is BuzzAldrin.com.

01:00:23.000 We've got links to that up on my sites, InfoWars.com.

01:00:28.000 The other sites, InfoWars.net.

01:00:32.000 Your book gets into your idea of a unified space mission or direction.

01:00:39.000 I notice we haven't gone back to the moon except with probes since the early seventies, and you talk about that in the book as well.

01:00:46.000 So tell us about your idea, you know, with a doctorate and all of this, and as one of the most famous astronauts, your vision of what you think we should do.

01:00:59.000 It's as you just said, unified space vision.

01:01:04.000 Not mission, it's many, many missions over a long period of time.

01:01:08.000 And we came to a real tipping point with the accident of the Columbia on February 1st of 03.

01:01:19.000 That left us with only three orbiters and we had to solve the problem of the safety of continuing to fly the space shuttle and the unfinished space station.

01:01:33.000 And what is the future going to be?

01:01:37.000 Before that accident, NASA was considering flying the shuttle until 2020, another 10 years from now, and maybe even 2025.

01:01:49.000 And now it looked as though that was just not a good thing to do.

01:01:56.000 My engineers were trying to work the problem and coming up with a modified shuttle launch system that could take up a replacement of the shuttle orbiter to take people up, but not large amounts of cargo, at least in the same spacecraft.

01:02:17.000 And we were looking, my group of engineers were also looking for what kind of a space vision should we have in the future.

01:02:31.000 But the accident and NASA's studies during the summer, combined with the accident board, came up with a recommendation that the cargo and crew be separated But not just in the spacecraft, but on the launch vehicle.

01:02:51.000 And I was concerned that that opened the door to have NASA develop two different rockets, one of them just for the crew and one of them just for the lander and the cargo, and I felt that was wrong.

01:03:08.000 But NASA was pursuing, sort of behind closed doors, what they thought they should do for the future.

01:03:19.000 When they did come out with their vision for space exploration in January of 04, it involved terminating the shuttle in 2010, finishing the space station, building spacecraft and rockets somehow to go back to the moon by 2020.

01:03:45.000 I kind of went along with that.

01:03:47.000 That sounded reasonable.

01:03:48.000 But then as the progress in the launch vehicles that I disagreed with began to bog us down, I felt we need to look really closely, examine why do we want to go back to the moon with humans when by the time we get there, it'll be 50 years from when we did it in 1969 and beyond.

01:04:12.000 And shouldn't we be following the shuttle with something that has six to eight people in it but no cargo and lands on a runway?

01:04:24.000 And shouldn't we be doing other things for a long duration spaceflight in the direction of Mars?

01:04:31.000 Isn't that where we should try and go with our major resources?

01:04:38.000 Well, Dr. Aldrin, Buzz Aldrin, didn't Wernher von Braun draw up the space shuttle back in like the mid-30s, the idea for it?

01:04:45.000 Isn't it ancient, comparatively, in the space age?

01:04:51.000 Well, yes.

01:04:52.000 What he felt we needed, correctly, was a laboratory in space and a reusable way to have rockets and spacecraft Take people and cargo up to the moon.

01:05:09.000 But that's two things, and we couldn't build the laboratory until we had the shuttle.

01:05:16.000 And the shuttle was not well designed in the first place by trying to put a crew in the reusable booster.

01:05:25.000 So it had to be redesigned with solid rockets, and I didn't agree with that.

01:05:33.000 And it ended up being quite a large vehicle to satisfy the Air Force needs for a big reconnaissance satellite and a one-orbit mission returning to the same place that, because of rotation, moved 1,500 miles to the east.

01:05:51.000 Sure.

01:05:51.000 Not to interrupt you, but in the time we have, we're reaching the halfway point here.

01:05:55.000 I'm going to skip this network break.

01:05:58.000 You cover a lot of this in Magnificent Desolation, which is a magnificent book.

01:06:02.000 But something I saw you get really excited about was on C-SPAN, you talked about this monolith on the tiny potato-shaped moon of Mars.

01:06:12.000 And I knew about its moon, I didn't know about this monolith.

01:06:16.000 And you got really sparkly-eyed and animated about this.

01:06:22.000 Tell us about this monolith and why you want to land on that moon first.

01:06:28.000 Well, I want to land on the moon first, whether it has a monolith or not, because it orbits around Mars in seven hours and is quite close, much, much closer than our moon is to the Earth.

01:06:42.000 And from that moon, people can control robots, rovers, all sorts of assembly processes.

01:06:52.000 Chemical processes, fuel processes, and other things on the surface without endangering the crew.

01:06:58.000 And it's much easier to take people there, actually, than it is to take people to and from our moon.

01:07:07.000 Because of the smallness of it, it takes longer to get there.

01:07:11.000 And when you get there, you have to stay longer.

01:07:13.000 So it's a significant challenge, but it is a major safe stepping stone before going to the surface of Mars and can be approached in inspiring logical steps from low Earth orbit doing things that increase our capability, some in the direction of our moon but not landing on our moon.

01:07:42.000 Instead, we have the experience to be the leaders of international nations, other nations, sending their astronauts or tackinots to land on the moon.

01:07:56.000 So are you saying, Mr. Aldrin, that this should be an international mission?

01:08:00.000 Well, everything should be.

01:08:02.000 The space station is international.

01:08:04.000 We need refueling or going elsewhere in space, and that should be commercial, not national, not government-controlled.

01:08:17.000 and that means international.

01:08:20.000 Yeah, now the Monolith just happens to be a location of a Mars-ology, not geology, feature that is a physical structure, but it is very, very curious.

01:08:37.000 And it's quite close to where we would like to land.

01:08:41.000 And Canadian studies extensively of going to Phobos for science, the science team has said, go for the monolith.

01:08:52.000 So they think that is sufficiently scientifically attractive, and it's close to where you want to be to observe from there.

01:09:03.000 uh... the planet mars it itself uh...

01:09:07.000 commander aldrin i isn't this interesting we have two thousand one uh... space odyssey we have this what looks like almost a perfect monolith on this moon and then here you are one of the first moonwalkers uh... when the eagle lands you're wanting to be uh...

01:09:23.000 you're on television saying we need to go there to see this monolith You're saying it's very curious.

01:09:28.000 And again, I saw your eyes light up on television.

01:09:31.000 What is your gut this monolith is?

01:09:33.000 Or what are Marsologists saying it could be?

01:09:40.000 My opinion and the Marsologists' opinion don't guide public opinion and curiosity Uh, for the unusual and the bizarre.

01:09:54.000 We need lots and lots of public discussion about the pros and cons of going anywhere.

01:10:01.000 I mean, certainly it's a way to get people interested.

01:10:03.000 I see that.

01:10:03.000 But, but what do you think this is?

01:10:05.000 I mean, tell me what your gut or as a, as a person, a doctor who studies this, what does this look like to you?

01:10:12.000 It's a big, big, tall rock.

01:10:18.000 I can say it looks like maybe a crude construction device by some creatures who practiced on Phobos and then landed in Egypt and built the pyramids.

01:10:35.000 I don't really believe that, but some people are liable to think that.

01:10:44.000 Well, I'm looking at it.

01:10:44.000 It's got what looks like really clean-cut edges, and it's got a smooth top, and I never even cover this stuff, Mr. Aldrin.

01:10:52.000 Buzz Aldrin on the phone with us here from California.

01:10:55.000 This is just amazing to have you and others talking about it, and I see all your excitement.

01:11:02.000 Dealing with it, let me ask you in this way.

01:11:04.000 What do you believe the destiny of humanity is?

01:11:09.000 Because a lot of people feel like this species is far older than we even know.

01:11:12.000 What do you believe man's destiny will be if we have the vision to go off-world?

01:11:16.000 I mean, in a big way.

01:11:19.000 Well, I think sooner or later the Earth is just liable to be impacted by something that we, as humans with all our technology, could not prevent.

01:11:33.000 And it would be a good idea, thousands of years maybe in the future, or two weeks in the future, to have a survivable off-planet species To keep things going.

01:11:53.000 Not just for the benefit of unborn people, but think of the lives, the history that the human species has had here on Earth, and to have that wiped out. 0.85

01:12:07.000 It's not just the lives of the future.

01:12:10.000 Well, Dr. Aldrin, was it Saturn that got hit by Shoemaker-Levy, the big comet that broke up?

01:12:16.000 I mean, they said if that hit the Earth, that would have basically killed all life on the planet, or at least knocked out our civilization.

01:12:23.000 No, that was Jupiter.

01:12:24.000 Jupiter, that's right, Jupiter.

01:12:26.000 Well, and we just might find indications of a very crude form of life that might have arisen at Mars and then been transported to Earth.

01:12:42.000 So it might be the beginnings of life on Earth that thrived, whereas it died out on Mars.

01:12:51.000 Are you saying we might be Martians?

01:12:53.000 Well, we're a long evolution away from Mars.

01:13:03.000 I don't believe that that means that there were rocket ships somehow that left Mars and landed here on Earth.

01:13:12.000 And, uh... But meteor impacts, you're saying, which we know sent Martian rock here, could have brought it?

01:13:18.000 Or vice versa.

01:13:19.000 Going back, because that was so intriguing, you're saying it's similar to some of the things we see in Egypt?

01:13:27.000 No, no, no.

01:13:27.000 I'm just saying there is a lot of conjecture as to who built the pyramids.

01:13:35.000 I'm pretty well convinced that they were slaves that were conned into building this edifice for the pharaohs.

01:13:46.000 So the pharaohs could get to the other side in the holy land and put in a good word for all the slaves who built the pyramids.

01:13:56.000 Sure, sure.

01:13:57.000 I can't talk about a Ponzi scheme.

01:13:59.000 That was the biggest con game I ever saw.

01:14:03.000 Well, again, Buzz Aldrin is our guest right now, author of Magnificent Desolation that I hold in my hand.

01:14:09.000 What I'm getting at is this, and I respect you and I appreciate you coming on the show.

01:14:13.000 I know we have advanced technologies.

01:14:15.000 I know we have incredible men and women.

01:14:16.000 I know we have amazing, candid spirit.

01:14:19.000 We also know that there are a lot of secret military programs, a lot of advanced technology.

01:14:23.000 We see astronauts hinting at it, hinting at knowing about things.

01:14:28.000 And this is not even a UFO show.

01:14:31.000 We just see other astronauts that say they've seen things out there.

01:14:34.000 We've seen video from the space shuttle of things flying around.

01:14:37.000 I was just wondering your view on life in the solar system outside Earth.

01:14:44.000 We have zero evidence of any life

01:14:49.000 In our solar system, other than that which we can observe here on Earth, and I think the distances involved to even the closest star, having written a detailed science fiction story about another civilization from Alpha Centauri that had compelling reasons to advance their technology and to visit the Earth,

01:15:18.000 Uh, they failed in their efforts to do that, uh, for logical reasons.

01:15:26.000 Uh, but I don't believe they exist there on Alpha Centauri, nor do I believe they exist on other planets.

01:15:31.000 Sure, sure, it's hypothetical.

01:15:33.000 I've always wanted... A good story, but I believe the distances involved make it extremely improbable for any advanced life forms to be very close And within reach for star travelers from Earth for thousands and thousands of years.

01:15:55.000 However... What about full space?

01:15:57.000 What about the... However, millions of years, I believe, that certainly creatures from Earth could have the technology to visit the closest star, Alpha Centauri, and other stars If we have a good reason to do that.

01:16:18.000 And the demise, the extinction of life on Earth probably is a good reason to want to invest the resources to re-establish civilization on some other star system.

01:16:37.000 But that's very, very remote.

01:16:40.000 Sure.

01:16:41.000 Do any of your colleagues Do you have suspicions about the monolith?

01:16:48.000 Well, I've asked them to try and be interested and support the things that I've been doing, and there's very little response.

01:17:02.000 There's one that didn't fly to the moon, and some others who are shuttle people who are certainly interested in helping me advance Progress of human space flight.

01:17:16.000 Mr. Aldrin, I always wanted to ask you this.

01:17:18.000 We saw the photos of the little Masonic flag to the moon and some of the names of the missions and the numerology.

01:17:26.000 Is there anything to that?

01:17:27.000 Or what is the Masonic influence?

01:17:29.000 We know there's a Masonic influence in the founding of the country.

01:17:33.000 What is the Masonic influence on NASA?

01:17:37.000 As far as I can tell, zero.

01:17:40.000 There were some Masonic brothers of mine in Texas that wanted me to take some kind of a Masonic emblem to the moon in some gesture of... I don't know what it would be a gesture of, but I told them that it was not within my authority to do such a thing.

01:18:09.000 Absolutely.

01:18:10.000 One of the astronauts left a photo of his family though there.

01:18:13.000 Oh yeah, I think that's perfectly legitimate.

01:18:18.000 I left several things, coins from Soviet cosmonauts killed, a patch from the Apollo 1, messages from 72 leaders of the world, and an olive branch gold pin that was my contribution.

01:18:34.000 Wow.

01:18:35.000 Well, again, it's just amazing getting to talk to you.

01:18:37.000 The book is Magnificent Desolation.

01:18:39.000 Let me bring up one other subject and then end on a very positive note.

01:18:43.000 It's a great book.

01:18:45.000 This has gotten a lot of attention lately.

01:18:48.000 What do you think of the people that mistrust the government and the system so much that they say you guys couldn't have gone to the Van Allen Radiation Belt and that it was all a Stanley Kubrick film production?

01:18:59.000 Well, I think they are self-serving individuals looking for attention, preying on gullible people

01:19:14.000 And they wouldn't exist if it were not for the gullible people who also like to encourage thinking about unrealistic, unsubstantiated things and titillate the public.

01:19:30.000 And that includes all sorts of people.

01:19:32.000 I hate to say it, but it includes yourself.

01:19:36.000 But I sure understand.

01:19:37.000 That's humanity.

01:19:38.000 That's the way we operate.

01:19:41.000 And I'm not beyond using that to help publicize the reality of things.

01:19:48.000 Well, sure, but I mean, Dr. Aldrin, we have to question.

01:19:52.000 I mean, that's a human trait.

01:19:55.000 I tend in the other direction, because I know people that worked actually, you know, on the mission with the RCA cameras and things, and they say they believe it was real.

01:20:02.000 My issue is, I know it goes in the other direction.

01:20:05.000 I've talked to people, former head of Star Wars and others, they say there's so much classified stuff, space planes, that the real space program is robotic.

01:20:16.000 And that most of it's military.

01:20:18.000 Do you have any comments on that?

01:20:21.000 Well, a robotic space program is much, much cheaper than a human one.

01:20:26.000 And if I were financing the military, I would be pretty skeptical about Sending military astronauts up there with all the expense if I could get the job done with robots.

01:20:38.000 So yeah, but I think there certainly are limits to what can be done with robots and still keep that somewhat cloaked from the general public.

01:20:55.000 The people that accuse the government of Improperly cordoning off areas like Area 51 from public trespassing.

01:21:08.000 What do you think we want to do?

01:21:10.000 Do you think we want to open up every avenue of classified defense of our country?

01:21:18.000 No, but I was just asking you, with your knowledge, Mr. Aldrin, about secret government programs, because that is obviously very, very interesting.

01:21:26.000 The book is Magnificent Desolation, Buzz Aldrin with Ken Abraham, and it's an amazing book.

01:21:33.000 You're an amazing person, and we really enjoy you being on.

01:21:36.000 I'd like to say bye to you as we go to break here in five seconds before we let you go, Mr. Aldrin.

01:21:41.000 But again, we really want to thank you for coming on with Magnificent Desolation.

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01:24:52.000 Okay, we're going to do five more minutes with Commander, Colonel, Captain, Buzz Aldrin, Doctor. - The book is Buzz Aldrin, Magnificent Desolation, and he's going to come back for five minutes and break down, answer the people that say we didn't go to the moon or it was a hoax.

01:25:17.000 So, Buzz Aldrin, you've got the floor, sir.

01:25:19.000 Please break it down for us.

01:25:22.000 Well, we went to the moon.

01:25:26.000 Their laser radar reflectors that are on the moon that we show pictures of that we brought back and anybody who has a laser beam can send it to the moon and it'll bounce back to you and you can measure the frequency change and that's why it's there to measure how Africa drifts away from South America and other

01:25:56.000 Geological and scientific measurements like that.

01:26:02.000 I think most important is the fact that we were clearly in a race with another highly technical, capable country, the Soviet Union, that claimed they never went to the moon, but they were preparing to, and they had landers and they had people picked out, and of course after

01:26:25.000 We were on the moon, they had rovers up there, so they fully had the ability to know whether we landed there or not.

01:26:35.000 And they never joined the conspiracy that said that America never went to the moon.

01:26:42.000 So I think that's the strongest argument.

01:26:46.000 But whatever it is, it's supported by gullible people that want to believe the bizarre, the unusual, the fantasy.

01:26:55.000 And that's okay, because that's human nature, to be curious about things.

01:26:59.000 Well, I read a book by a prominent person who says we didn't go to the moon, and he says there's plants on the moon, and it has an atmosphere, and that it rotates, but everybody can look at the moon and tell it doesn't rotate, or at least... I mean, that's crazy.

01:27:13.000 Well, it rotates once a revolution around the Earth.

01:27:18.000 That's the way it keeps the same side face, because that's the minimum tidal effect That the Earth and the Sun have on the surface of the Moon.

01:27:31.000 And things tend to have friction dissipate energy to a point where there is no friction anymore.

01:27:43.000 And if you want to carry that to an extreme, if the Earth and the Moon were around long enough, the Moon would move further and further and further away until there was no tidal effect of the Moon on the Earth, and the same side of the Earth faced the Moon and vice versa.

01:28:02.000 Yeah, what do you, when you bring up the Russian issue of them tracking the mission and they would have blown the whistle on us, I guess people then say that that was a conspiracy too?

01:28:11.000 I don't know what they say.

01:28:13.000 I think they dodged the question.

01:28:15.000 What about the Van Allen radiation belt, though, with the film?

01:28:20.000 Because I did talk to one of the guys on the RCA cameras, and he said, yeah, there was some film problem, but I guess sometimes the film would be okay, sometimes it wouldn't be, because I guess the belts are different strengths?

01:28:30.000 Well, you're passing through them in pretty much of a hurry.

01:28:37.000 We have a concern about what we call the South Atlantic Anomaly, which is where some of the radiation dips down to lower altitudes, around maybe 400 miles above the surface of the Earth.

01:28:52.000 So, we don't want to send a spacecraft into that South Atlantic Anomaly for long periods of time, or many, many, many orbits.

01:29:03.000 Um, but, but certainly, uh, radiation detectors that went through the Van Allen Belt, as scientific probes do all the time, that are leaving, uh, leaving the, uh, Earth and heading for geosynchronous where we have our, uh, uh, communication satellites.

01:29:25.000 Uh, those are, uh, uh, above the Van Allen Belt.

01:29:30.000 The communication satellites are essentially three diameters above the surface of the Earth, and the moon is ten times that distance away.

01:29:42.000 The moon focus is about one diameter of Mars away from the surface of Mars, and it goes around in seven hours.

01:29:52.000 So very, very much closer.

01:29:55.000 Well, Buzz Aldrin, the book, is Magnificent Desolation.

01:29:58.000 I'm not going to keep you any longer.

01:29:59.000 I really appreciate your time.

01:30:00.000 Maybe I can have you up sometime for a 30-minute interview just about your vision of going to Mars.

01:30:06.000 I know humanity is reaching out to the stars, and I know we have incredible potential thanks to people like you and the courage that you and other astronauts Let me just say one more thing.

01:30:16.000 And I really do appreciate the time that you've graciously spent with us.

01:30:19.000 And I hope that before I become an old man, or even sooner, before you leave this planet many years from now, that we get to find out what that monolithic obelisk is on the moon of Mars.

01:30:32.000 Okay, let me just say one more thing.

01:30:34.000 We need a serious debate here before we begin to spend large, large amounts on going to Mars.

01:30:45.000 And I don't think we need to do that for another 10 years.

01:30:49.000 That's why we have a two-phase program.

01:30:51.000 The debate is, do we want to just go there a couple of times and then let the Congress spend the money on earmarks?

01:31:00.000 Or do we want to commit to permanence?

01:31:03.000 That's continuous increasing settlements At Mars.

01:31:08.000 That's the choice we need to make.

01:31:11.000 And anything you folks can do to begin to address that subject.

01:31:17.000 Is it worth expending the money to send humans and their judgment and their curiosity and their investigation?

01:31:27.000 Or do we want to do that with only robots I mean, our moon is a very hostile place.

01:31:40.000 It's not inviting at all.

01:31:42.000 And the same thing applies there.

01:31:44.000 We can do robots much, much easier.

01:31:47.000 Uh, then of course on Mars, and I think better than humans on the moon.

01:31:53.000 But that's what I was going to say, is it's good to send humans, isn't it, because it keeps us in the game.

01:31:58.000 If we start getting to where we only have robots, we might turn into, you know, over eons, into creatures that don't even have arms and legs and just sit there as blobs, like something out of WALL-E.

01:32:07.000 Have you seen that movie WALL-E, where there are all these blobs that... Yeah, but more important than that, other nations will go Where we choose not to go. 0.62

01:32:20.000 Yeah, since you brought that up, let me just ask this final question and we'll let you go.

01:32:23.000 Again, Buzz Aldrin, second-to-walk-on-the-moon, a famous astronaut here, one of the most famous, if not the most famous, next to Neil Armstrong.

01:32:30.000 There's been a call for globalism, global government, in saying, then man can go to the stars, but having a big global bureaucracy, I think, would actually stamp out a lot of innovation of the different nation-states.

01:32:43.000 What's your view on people that call for a new world order?

01:32:49.000 Well, they're seeking power where it perhaps is not deserved.

01:32:54.000 Space-faring nations, those with the capability of sending objects for themselves or for others Our spacefaring nations, and they're the ones, and only the ones, that should have a say.

01:33:10.000 Otherwise, it's going to be, I want what some favored other nation has.

01:33:18.000 So we do need international involvement, but we need strong, strong leadership, and I think that's where the United States has the opportunity to be that leader.

01:33:33.000 But are you overall then, you don't like the globalism or world government then?

01:33:41.000 No, I like spacefaring nations determine what goes up above a hundred kilometers and what comes down and what protects the assets there.

01:33:54.000 Is that a good name for you?

01:33:55.000 A spacefarer, not just an astronaut?

01:33:57.000 Well, yeah.

01:33:58.000 I mean, below 100 kilometers, you can throw rocks, you can fire mortars, rocket grenades, you can do whatever you want, and we'll deal with those terrestrial problems of human rights, of piracy, of stealing, and all those other things.

01:34:18.000 But let's have a separation for the benefit of what goes on because things can collide with each other and eventually irresponsible actions, accidentally or on purpose, can prohibit What do you think of the weaponization of space?

01:34:39.000 because there's too much up there and it and it'll run into anything that you want to put up there for useful purposes it'll knock out your direct TV it'll knock out your weather what do you think of the weaponization of space I mean you think that's a good thing or a bad thing I don't call that weaponization I I call that prudent behavior.

01:35:07.000 If you have assets in space and some rogue nation can threaten you, you should have the ability to defend yourself against those hostile acts.

01:35:22.000 But the country that gets a dominance in space could then set up an off-world system, and really almost split into two species, have the dominant empire that's space-based, and then kind of the suboid minions back on Earth. 0.98

01:35:36.000 I guess those are debates we should be having, though.

01:35:40.000 Well, I think that we all like the pleasures down here, and those are subject to conflict.

01:35:52.000 I think we need to be judicious, and I think you're projecting way far ahead to have a space species only that's in conflict with a terrestrial species only.

01:36:06.000 No, I know, but you know a couple hundred years is the blink of an eye in the way technology is advancing and developing.

01:36:12.000 I gotta go.

01:36:12.000 read some of the white papers put out by governments about what they believe is going to happen even here on the earth with genetic engineering the rest of it again buzz aldrin we've been so honored to have all this time with you feel free to anything else you'd like to add or if you need to go will say a farewell a boy by asteria I gotta go when you gotta go you gotta go buzz aldrin you're really nice fella and have a lot of courage and we really appreciate you coming on with us All righty, thank you.

01:36:41.000 There he goes, ladies and gentlemen.

01:36:41.000 Take care.

01:36:43.000 Buzz Aldrin, 45-minute interview.

01:36:47.000 I skipped a break.

01:36:47.000 I do that more and more.

01:36:48.000 I had Alan Keyes on, all this is happening.

01:36:50.000 It's only a fourth hour, though, for the advertisers.

01:36:54.000 And I said I was going to get into all this other crazy stuff.

01:36:57.000 What happens is I've got these great producers out here.

01:37:00.000 We've got Jaron Neihart doing it, and we've got Paul Hartman, we've got Rob Dew.

01:37:04.000 Rob Dew is doing computer and video editing.

01:37:07.000 They're running a live TV show.

01:37:09.000 And now that I've got three producers who also do other jobs, but three of them, I mean it's just like, hey, want Buzz Aldrin?

01:37:16.000 Yeah, get him!

01:37:17.000 Hey, want this person?

01:37:18.000 They really do a great professional job.

01:37:18.000 Want that person?

01:37:20.000 I want to commend the team.

01:37:23.000 out there for getting Buzz Aldrin.

01:37:25.000 Look, ladies and gentlemen, I've had Schmidt on, Dr. Schmidt, and I've had Dr. Aldrin on.

01:37:30.000 We're going to get all these astronauts on.

01:37:31.000 And we're going to get some of them on that are talking about the advanced technologies and hidden agendas.

01:37:38.000 But I dare somebody to get Buzz Aldrin up and then start being mean to him and tell him we didn't go to the moon.

01:37:44.000 I have a lot of friends that think it's all a hoax and a fraud.

01:37:47.000 And I have my questions, but analyzing it, I think it's clear they've got a lot of more advanced technology they don't want the public knowing about, and a lot of what we're shown is kind of the 1930s tinker toys.

01:37:59.000 You heard when I brought up Wernher von Braun on the space shuttle, 1934, 1935, you know, that was accurate with Dr. Aldrin.

01:38:06.000 They tell us the SR-71 Blackbird In service in the mid-1950s is the fastest plane we have.

01:38:13.000 Now if you believe that 50 plus years later, I don't know, what's 55 to 2009?

01:38:20.000 That's 55, 54 years later.

01:38:22.000 If you believe that a 54-year-old, 55, will develop in 1950, it's really 59 years old, but in service in 55. 0.82

01:38:30.000 If you believe a 59-year-old aircraft is the fastest aircraft we've got, you are insane.

01:38:36.000 And we've already had a split off with the more advanced technologies in the military and corporate reservations.

01:38:43.000 We need to have a larger debate about this, and so I brought Buzz Aldrin on about that.

01:38:48.000 I just know this, there's a lot of credible criticism of moon landing being a hoax.

01:38:52.000 But there's also a lot of it, like you take Behold a Pale Horse, people kept telling me, read it, read it, read it.

01:39:00.000 I finally got it a few months ago and read the whole thing.

01:39:02.000 I'd read about a third of it back in the late 90s.

01:39:04.000 And there's plants on the moon, it rotates every day, you don't need a space suit on the moon, Jesus is killed by aliens with holograms, And it's in there.

01:39:19.000 People then email me when I talk about that and say I'm a liar.

01:39:21.000 It doesn't say that.

01:39:22.000 Whatever.

01:39:23.000 Anybody who's read it knows that.

01:39:23.000 The book says that.

01:39:25.000 Burmese is here, isn't he? 0.99

01:39:26.000 He printed that off the other day.

01:39:27.000 Get him to run that.

01:39:28.000 The only point is, is that then I look at it and there's...

01:39:28.000 I don't want to show people that.

01:39:33.000 I have experienced people saying everything's a hoax because they don't believe anything can be real.

01:39:37.000 Like they say it's fake that I snuck into Bohemian Grove.

01:39:39.000 No, they arrested the Vanity Fair reporter last year, the People Magazine reporter, the CBS reporter.

01:39:44.000 I got in and out by the grace of God, and probably because I snuck in with Mike Hanson, most reporters sneak in by themselves.

01:39:50.000 I thought two people would be good to throw them off.

01:39:53.000 We really did, you know, put the Joker poster out and have people put them up in hundreds of cities nationwide.

01:39:59.000 We really did start 9-11 Truth and expose that as an inside job.

01:40:03.000 We really did come out and say they're going to use flu as a hoax for martial law.

01:40:08.000 And now Ron Paul and Congressman Brown and former Congressman Dick Armey are saying that.

01:40:14.000 And governors are writing letters The Governor's Association to the President saying, we don't want 400,000 regular army in America.

01:40:21.000 It's an unconstitutional power grab and takeover.

01:40:24.000 And we have gotten, in many cities, over 75%.

01:40:28.000 This is now coming out in Oregon and California and Michigan and some towns.

01:40:34.000 75% of the school kids aren't taking the vaccines now because we woke people up.

01:40:39.000 I know we can affect change.

01:40:41.000 I know we have power as a species.

01:40:43.000 I know we can do incredible things.

01:40:46.000 And I know I've talked to people with national security letters and people who are high-level retired engineers and people that ran the cameras and all the rest of it.

01:40:55.000 And they say the word is there was a whole nother space program even more advanced going on and that what we were seeing was tinker toys.

01:41:05.000 And so it was theater, but only theater.

01:41:09.000 Did you hear Aldrin hinting at aliens and hinting at Egypt and hinting at monoliths and obelisks and then putting it out and then pulling back and how excited he got on TV?

01:41:19.000 I've talked to other astronauts off record, I've talked to other people that know astronauts, and they say it's just, you wouldn't imagine what's really going on.

01:41:28.000 And I know that gets into coast-to-coast territory, but this is the, you know, something's going on.

01:41:34.000 I don't know what it is.

01:41:38.000 And it was just an amazing interview, so there you have it.

01:41:42.000 I know you can do real things.

01:41:44.000 I also know there are hoaxes and frauds.

01:41:48.000 I want you to believe in yourselves.

01:41:51.000 You know, let's say I'm bad, which I'm not.

01:41:54.000 I mean, I'm the real deal.

01:41:55.000 It's proven by my fruits.

01:41:57.000 The new order hates what I'm doing.

01:41:59.000 But regardless, let's just say I'm bad for the sake of argument.

01:42:02.000 Don't let that stop you from taking action, getting involved, reaching out to other people, waking them up.

01:42:07.000 Now, I'm going to talk about the Joker contest in the final segment.

01:42:10.000 Tomorrow, I will start the show.

01:42:12.000 I don't have anybody on the first hour, do I?

01:42:15.000 We got more big guests coming up this week.

01:42:17.000 Oh, you ought to wait until the guest I got coming up in October.

01:42:19.000 It's going to blow your mind.

01:42:20.000 But, uh, about this whole picture of the vaccines and how they're killing people and how the flu shot in the trials is killing a bunch of people.

01:42:31.000 But the good news is it's coming out.

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01:45:54.000 .

01:45:56.000 The End

01:46:24.000 And then it goes on to say that it has an atmosphere and rotates.

01:46:28.000 Okay, you can't make this up.

01:46:30.000 Here's the part about aliens and holograms.

01:46:32.000 Now, I read this when somebody sent this to me in the late nineties and laughed at it.

01:46:36.000 So there. 0.52

01:46:36.000 That's what I say to people that, I mean, this is the guy that claims that I'm a transvestite at public events wearing nipple bobbers. 0.52

01:46:45.000 I mean, I'm sorry to... I mean, that's just...

01:46:47.000 People keep asking me to respond to this.

01:46:49.000 Okay.

01:46:49.000 Look, I don't believe there's plants on the moon.

01:46:51.000 And I don't get up at Academy Award events wearing nipple bobbers.

01:46:55.000 I mean, I just can't handle it anymore.

01:46:58.000 People keep asking me to respond.

01:46:59.000 You really want me to go deeper into this? 1.00

01:47:01.000 It's a raving liar! 0.97

01:47:04.000 There you go, you got what you wanted, I'm talking about it. 1.00

01:47:06.000 People say I'm a liar, that it doesn't need, it gets worse! 0.95

01:47:09.000 It gets more insane!

01:47:11.000 Plants and the moon rotates and has seasons and turkeys flying by or something, I mean it's just absolutely insane.

01:47:20.000 I just had Buzz Aldrin on, I'm talking about this, because it gets into the moon stuff.

01:47:24.000 People are like, have you read this about the moon?

01:47:26.000 So I read it and it's like, plants and the moon?

01:47:31.000 That doesn't mean I don't think there's some hoaxing going on.

01:47:34.000 But the info I've been given is because they don't want anybody to see the real technology they've got.

01:47:41.000 I believe we're being lied to.

01:47:42.000 Let's get that straight.

01:47:44.000 Okay, look.

01:47:44.000 I'm out of time.

01:47:45.000 I'm gonna start the show tomorrow.

01:47:47.000 With 45 minutes on the big picture of the staged flu, the martial law, finally getting traction, mainline congressmen, former congressmen, Governor's Association talking about martial law, troops.

01:48:00.000 It's really happening.

01:48:01.000 And knowing it's happening, and knowing it's wrong, and people speaking out beforehand will nix them being able to do this.

01:48:09.000 Then the COINTELPRO will attack and say, see, it didn't happen.

01:48:12.000 But that's okay.

01:48:13.000 At least we still have our country and our economy and our future.

01:48:17.000 So, we've been right, it's all coming true, exactly as we said, you have all done a job off the charts good.

01:48:25.000 You've all done a job off the charts good.

01:48:30.000 uh... dealing with the obama joker posters on Infowars.com we're gonna do one that says bank heist bank robber we're gonna do one uh... that says liar we're gonna do one that says end the war they're all up on the flyer page at Infowars.com just click on the contest page we're making a bigger article about it all it's about the first amendment it's about free speech worldwide it's about the people seeing the power Of going out and engaging in the First Amendment.

01:48:57.000 Obama said in the Washington Post to his members to stick favorable posters of him on stop signs.

01:49:04.000 We said do only what's legal.

01:49:05.000 And that's in Commons areas where other signs are up.

01:49:09.000 In areas where that's allowed.

01:49:11.000 The media has a state investigation like we're Al-Qaeda.

01:49:14.000 They're talking about the victims. 0.89

01:49:16.000 It's all blown up on their face, their hypocrisy, their clear double standard.

01:49:22.000 And this has resonated with people, and it's going to end up being bigger than the Andre has a posse thing that went on for a decade.

01:49:28.000 You watch.

01:49:28.000 These Obama posters, and it shows the power of the people just putting him up as a criminal, destroys all of his power.

01:49:36.000 And thus, all the New World Order agenda that's coupled up to him.

01:49:41.000 I do want to, just in closing, encourage people to buy the different posters of Obama.

01:49:46.000 Well, the posters are free.

01:49:47.000 The different t-shirts, wear them.

01:49:49.000 We've got the Bush Joker t-shirts, by the way, which are just absolutely scary.

01:49:55.000 Our actual graphics lady did those. 1.00

01:49:57.000 Really captures his demonic personality.

01:50:00.000 We're going to create one with Bush on the back and Obama on the front and vice versa.

01:50:04.000 That's about to go up on the shopping cart.

01:50:06.000 Get the videos, get the books, get them out to people.

01:50:09.000 And you also then fund us when you support us to expand our operation.

01:50:13.000 It's symbiotic.

01:50:14.000 We're having great success against the globalists.

01:50:16.000 They can be defeated.

01:50:18.000 We just had Buzz Aldrin basically saying down with the New World Order.

01:50:21.000 Huge guest, jam-packed.

01:50:23.000 We had the Pale Horse Militia guy on in the first part of the show.

01:50:27.000 That's coming up now.

01:50:28.000 Infowars.com.

01:50:29.000 Great job, crew.

01:50:31.000 That was a good transmission.

01:50:32.000 Ha ha! 0.86

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Alex Jones Show - August 17, 2009

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