Alex Jones Show - 20090902_Wed_Alex

00:00:01.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:00:07.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:12.000 Thank you for joining us today.

00:00:14.000 We're an hour and eight minutes into my syndicated radio show, but we've now begun today's simulcast at PrisonPlanet.tv for PrisonPlanet.tv members.

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00:00:51.000 Coming up in about 45 minutes before Max Keiser joins us from Paris to break down the latest economic developments and also the police state developments and Obama's sliding approval numbers that continue to fall at record rates.

00:01:06.000 I'm going to cover this story.

00:01:09.000 Out of psychology today, the house organ of the priest class that are pushing all of their drug ads on us and that want to drug, according to the New Freedom Initiative's internal documents, 50% of school children, saying half are mentally ill at least, they're making everything a mental illness so that they can be the priest class that drug us and run our lives.

00:01:32.000 And so we're going to break down this amazingly distorted hit piece coming up.

00:01:37.000 And it's so shoddily done.

00:01:38.000 Do you see this photo here for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers?

00:01:42.000 My sister took this photo.

00:01:44.000 We had so much media a few months ago asking for photos.

00:01:47.000 I said, why don't I get a professional photographer in here?

00:01:49.000 My sister is one.

00:01:51.000 You got a, you know, college degree in that.

00:01:54.000 And, or she will in like a couple months when she graduates. 0.99

00:01:56.000 She's in her last semester.

00:01:57.000 And so she came by and took some photos.

00:02:00.000 And I said, yeah, you can have the photos, because you're so lazy they wouldn't send somebody to get one.

00:02:04.000 But you got to put her name under the caption.

00:02:06.000 Give credit.

00:02:07.000 Look where they gave photo credit.

00:02:09.000 Way down at the bottom corner.

00:02:12.000 They couldn't even get their computer formatting right.

00:02:15.000 Much less proofread it.

00:02:16.000 I mean, and the whole story, you know, they kind of imply in here I'm crazy when I said that I've been visited by the FBI but I couldn't talk about it.

00:02:24.000 I was under a federal subpoena gag.

00:02:26.000 Now it's in the Associated Press and Wired Magazine why I was under that gag.

00:02:33.000 And other media said I was just making it up.

00:02:35.000 They were never here!

00:02:38.000 Oh really?

00:02:39.000 Well now their names are public and part of the court record. 0.99

00:02:42.000 That they were here because some idiot made threats against police by name and where they lived in my message board. 0.96

00:02:49.000 I wasn't in trouble. 1.00

00:02:51.000 That idiot was in trouble. 1.00

00:02:52.000 People are like, why did you give it to them? 1.00

00:02:54.000 They subpoenaed it.

00:02:55.000 They came here.

00:02:56.000 They got those names.

00:02:59.000 Okay, so that's what happened.

00:03:01.000 But the side issue, that's delusional in here, yes! 0.97

00:03:05.000 But see, showing how full of crap this guy is, back at the time I said, I can't tell you, it's a, it's a subpoena, I'm under a federal subpoena saying not talk about it. 0.98

00:03:14.000 The court ordered that. 1.00

00:03:17.000 And the son of a bitch didn't believe that, excuse me. 0.99

00:03:19.000 I mean, I just, There's just no end to these people. 1.00

00:03:23.000 I mean, I don't lie about anything, okay?

00:03:26.000 I occasionally get something wrong, and when we do, we come here and tell you, because all that matters is our credibility with you.

00:03:33.000 All we want is to be truthful.

00:03:34.000 I want to be a moral good person.

00:03:37.000 I apologize to Representative Guest for being un-Genteel.

00:03:42.000 Representative Jim Guest of Missouri, a Republican, represents DeKalb County and parts of Clinton, Buchanan, and Gentry Counties, District 5, and the Missouri House of Representatives.

00:03:53.000 He was elected to the House in November 2002.

00:03:54.000 He's on several committees, and he is now sitting in the committee to hear public testimony on the MIAC report that we broke.

00:04:02.000 I had TV news here.

00:04:05.000 And it was a conspiracy theory that we broke the MIAC report.

00:04:10.000 No, we broke it.

00:04:11.000 Kansas City Star admits that, and I don't care about the credit, but I made the Obama deception.

00:04:18.000 I did get the report from two different state police officers, one in California, one in Missouri.

00:04:23.000 We did break the DHS report.

00:04:25.000 We did break the InfraGard. 1.00

00:04:28.000 We did break the clergy response teams.

00:04:30.000 We did break the FEMA camps.

00:04:32.000 We did... I mean, you know, I'm just tired of everybody attacking me, saying I'm a liar, when I'm not.

00:04:39.000 But see, they are trying to lie to you. 1.00

00:04:42.000 They think you're stupid. 1.00

00:04:44.000 And they think that if they just say, everything I'm saying is a lie, that we'll all get tied up in arguing about whether I'm a liar or not. 1.00

00:04:51.000 Instead of, it's like this, the executive order.

00:04:54.000 Then we're going to represent Jim Guest.

00:04:55.000 Just Google for everybody on screen at PrisonPlanet.tv and on the radio, type this in.

00:05:00.000 Executive Order Quarantine.

00:05:03.000 Now the first link that comes up under Google Web, Executive Order Quarantine.

00:05:09.000 Is CBS News, with the executive order, with a link to it, that openly states that... I got distracted by what they had up on screen there.

00:05:30.000 What was the search I was telling you?

00:05:31.000 That openly states quarantines and lockdowns of cities.

00:05:33.000 Now, then we have a debate whether that's true or not.

00:05:36.000 The executive order says it.

00:05:41.000 It didn't come up at StartPage.com.

00:05:43.000 Do it in Google.

00:05:44.000 StartPage is a great search engine, but to get that response, you need to do it in Google.

00:05:48.000 Okay?

00:05:49.000 Alright, let's go to Representative Jim Guest here right now.

00:05:52.000 Representative Guest, good to have you here with us, sir.

00:05:55.000 Alex, it's good to be here and it's good to be on your show and continue to fight for the sovereignty and the freedom and the rights of the people of this country, which continually are being challenged, that's for sure.

00:06:07.000 Well, sir, you were the first person to be nationally interviewed, if memory serves, when the Mayak Report broke.

00:06:13.000 Did Infowars.com break the Mayak Report?

00:06:17.000 I think I got a...somebody sent me a copy of the email that morning, and I kind of questioned whether it was true or not.

00:06:17.000 Absolutely.

00:06:26.000 Shortly after that, you called me, and I think we did an interview that afternoon.

00:06:30.000 So, you were the...yes, you broke the story.

00:06:33.000 You're the first one that I knew about it from, yes.

00:06:39.000 And again, I just, this is what the establishment does, and I have to respond to some of it, but if I spend all my time, it's like responding to the media about whether or not they're setting up a bank of the world for global governance, when it's in all the federal documents, all over the news, they'll simultaneously say they're doing it, but then if you say you don't want world government, they say you're a liar.

00:07:01.000 So true, yes.

00:07:02.000 You know, I think the last few years more and more people are realizing this One World Government, what's going on.

00:07:10.000 They can see the influences of it out there.

00:07:14.000 They can see the indicators and they can see the trend that we're going to.

00:07:18.000 So I think more and more people are realizing what you and others have been forecasting or warning people about are coming true here now.

00:07:29.000 Well, sir, we've got you here because you and others called for hearings.

00:07:32.000 You first called for hearings.

00:07:33.000 Some of the state officials got disciplined.

00:07:38.000 The Lieutenant Governor came out and had press conferences against it, and it became a national issue.

00:07:43.000 Representative Guest, can you recap what's in MIAC, what happened, and now the new discoveries coming out in the committee that the anarchists appeared to be government provocateurs.

00:07:53.000 They've been caught in other states and cities, like Denver last year, confirmed as provocateurs.

00:07:58.000 Denver Post, provocateurs in the Fed Rally, is the PrisonPlanet.com headline.

00:08:04.000 Can you tell us what the committee is finding?

00:08:09.000 Yeah, we've had three hearings.

00:08:11.000 The first one basically was in the state capitol and at that point we had the highway patrol, the MIAC people there, and they kind of obviously defended the program.

00:08:23.000 They told about how it came about and what they were using it for.

00:08:28.000 Ironically, in all the description when they told about how the MIAC was functioning, they never listed Terrorism or potential terrorists that they were using it for.

00:08:39.000 They were using it for sharing of information within the state on thefts and stuff like that that was going on.

00:08:47.000 You know, they do have to have a sharing of information, but I thought it was ironic that they didn't talk about what report that came out, which is the modern militia movement that tended to gloss over, ignore that.

00:09:01.000 Well, that's it.

00:09:01.000 Everything's a lie.

00:09:03.000 In fact, I saw them on Missouri News online.

00:09:06.000 They came out and said, we're just trying to stop bank robbers.

00:09:10.000 When the whole issue is about their report, written by the feds, distributed by them, first they said it wasn't real.

00:09:18.000 Then they come and say it's about bank robbers.

00:09:20.000 No, it's about Ron Paul bumper stickers and people getting pulled over.

00:09:24.000 In Missouri, people with Ron Paul material being frisked.

00:09:27.000 That's true, and like I said, that's what most of us, we had a couple citizens that testified at that point.

00:09:31.000 The next one was in St. 0.95

00:09:32.000 Charles, just outside of St.

00:09:33.000 how they always deceive, deceive?

00:09:36.000 They don't, they're not wrong.

00:09:38.000 They know they're deceiving.

00:09:40.000 It's a game.

00:09:41.000 That's true.

00:09:42.000 And like I said, that's what most of us, we had a couple citizens that testified at that point.

00:09:47.000 The next one was in St. Charles, just outside of St. Louis.

00:09:50.000 And we had a lot of citizen commentary input testimony there.

00:09:56.000 That's what we're saying.

00:09:56.000 They started asking some pointed questions.

00:09:58.000 We had somebody from the Illinois, I think what they call theirs, not DIAC, and I was rather disturbed to listen to what they were giving us there.

00:10:07.000 Because basically we asked the question, you know, if you gather information on citizens when you make a stop, can you find out if your information, if your name's on that list, and basically through the Sunshine Law, Freedom of Information, or some other way of getting that, they basically said, no, you're not going to be made this.

00:10:27.000 And they have somebody there trying to defend the MIAC stuff.

00:10:33.000 And where he really went wrong was when he tried to say that the Patriot Act, if you read that, you'd really understand why that was needed.

00:10:39.000 And that certainly fired up the committee members.

00:10:41.000 Well, sir, I received from inside the FBI their training videos that they give their officers, their agents, and they're giving to local police.

00:10:50.000 And it says if somebody's got binoculars or a cell phone or sleeping bags or maps to go ahead and put them in the terror database for life.

00:11:00.000 And this is designed, just like England, to put everybody on a list so they can claim probable cause on you.

00:11:07.000 Absolutely.

00:11:08.000 If they stopped me at some point and asked to search my car and I said no because they had no reason to, for some reason they did, I would be on that list because they might find a shotgun in my trunk, they might find a box of shotgun shells or something like that, which any sportsman or anybody that can legally carry that should do.

00:11:29.000 And by the way, Mr. Guest, Representative Guest, we're going to break.

00:11:32.000 You're not joking.

00:11:33.000 If you have a gun, if you have a map, if you have a cell phone, it's so wide it's meant to put everybody in secret police databases that go to the federal level.

00:11:44.000 And we have the internal FBI training videos on this.

00:11:47.000 We played it yesterday.

00:11:49.000 We need a huge report at InfoWars.com very soon on this.

00:11:53.000 Stay with us, Representative Guest.

00:11:55.000 We really appreciate you.

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00:15:57.000 Representative Jim Gaston, Missouri, is with us.

00:16:11.000 He's the guy that really blew the whistle on Mayak and his state and called the state police and confirmed it was real.

00:16:21.000 For a week or so, the media just said I was making it up and put out a fake report.

00:16:25.000 Look at this socialism sauce.

00:16:26.000 We just got mailed this with Obama on it.

00:16:29.000 I guess we'll be putting a terrorist database because of this.

00:16:33.000 But I don't want to just glaze over this, what the representative is telling you.

00:16:37.000 We have the training manuals, we have the training videos, we know.

00:16:41.000 And two years ago, a head federal marshal in Denver came out and said that they were ordered to put families, children, they had a quota to put innocent people on a terror database for the rest of their lives.

00:16:56.000 So that they can go back to Congress and Homeland Security and say, look, we've put this many people on the database.

00:17:02.000 And that meant a little kid taking a photo out the airplane window.

00:17:06.000 That meant someone ordering a vegetarian lunch at one of the kiosks.

00:17:11.000 There's just secret police all over.

00:17:12.000 And this is the core of secret police.

00:17:15.000 And they use it and sell it.

00:17:17.000 In the name of fighting, uh, you know, foreign terrorism.

00:17:20.000 But now they flipped the whole deal to say it's for the American people.

00:17:23.000 And that's what the MIAC report and the Homeland Security... Remember day one I said, that's a Homeland Security report regurgitated by the state.

00:17:31.000 They have to to get their federal money.

00:17:32.000 And then the DHS report came out and it was word for word.

00:17:35.000 So, this is the secret police putting you in a database for literally no reason to create the perception that there are terrorists everywhere.

00:17:45.000 Representative Guess, continue with what happened in these hearings.

00:17:48.000 We, like I said, we had our hearing in St.

00:17:48.000 Okay, thank you.

00:17:52.000 Charles, just outside of St.

00:17:53.000 Louis.

00:17:53.000 There were several pointed questions and testimonies by individual citizens who wanted answers.

00:18:01.000 The chairman of the committee tried to tell us at the beginning of these hearings that we're not supposed to dwell on the modern militia movement.

00:18:09.000 Well, that's what prompted all of this, so obviously a large number of people were very concerned.

00:18:15.000 Those who had been almost pointed out that our hearing in Kansas City Uh, Darrell Cassa, who was the vice presidential candidate for the Constitution Party, was actually there because he was second to Chuck Baldwin and very much involved in being pointed out there.

00:18:33.000 And he gave some very good testimony of why he thought it was dangerous and the danger to that.

00:18:39.000 So, we, and there was a couple of law enforcers from Kansas City tried to justify Yeah, but let's be clear.

00:18:47.000 It's saying Libertarian bumper stickers, Ron Paul bumper stickers, anti-UN stickers.

00:18:50.000 Stop them.

00:18:50.000 And, you know, we do want sharing of information within the state for drug task force and stuff like that.

00:18:58.000 Yeah, but let's be clear.

00:18:59.000 It's saying libertarian bumper stickers, Ron Paul bumper stickers, anti-UN stickers.

00:19:05.000 Stop them.

00:19:07.000 Put them in a database. 0.96

00:19:09.000 List them as like Jews in Nazi Germany to later be picked up.

00:19:15.000 That's what this is.

00:19:17.000 This is the police being turned into federalized political police, like right out of the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany.

00:19:24.000 Yeah, but when we asked him what the, in Kansas City, the law enforcement there, what they did with this, he said, well, you know, he did send it down to people to review in his command.

00:19:36.000 I said, you know, what did you see in there?

00:19:39.000 That prompted you to do this.

00:19:40.000 Who did you think was dangerous in there?

00:19:43.000 Of course, he could not answer that.

00:19:44.000 So, it's again, he was going through his training to send it down and compile this list of so-called terrorists.

00:19:54.000 What you're talking about says common malicious symbols.

00:19:56.000 And underneath it says political and anti-government rhetoric.

00:19:59.000 And below that is the political paraphernalia, which included the Libertarian Party, there is no doubt.

00:20:07.000 We'll continue to have one more hearing here.

00:20:08.000 The citizens are coming out and asking some very pointed questions.

00:20:13.000 And we'll have probably in about three weeks, I think, the report will come out with our suggestions on this.

00:20:19.000 that will be the case.

00:20:21.000 But then we'll continue to have one more hearing here.

00:20:24.000 The citizens are coming out and asking some very pointed questions, and we'll have probably in about three weeks, I think, the report will come out with our suggestions on this.

00:20:35.000 A large number of people have said, all the way from disbanding the MIAC to an obvious oversight committee.

00:20:44.000 And what I want to know is, my question, which I haven't gotten an answer from yet, can anybody in Missouri or any other state find out if they're on the watch list, if they're in the data file, for whatever reason, why they have been stopped?

00:20:57.000 You know, I think any citizen in this country needs to know whether they've been bombed.

00:21:01.000 Just like our watch list and our no-fly list.

00:21:04.000 They've got, what, hundreds of thousands of people on there, and people who shouldn't be on there, and they have a common name.

00:21:11.000 They're on there.

00:21:11.000 The same thing is going to happen in this list here that's coming out of this MIAC thing, or this huge database that exists.

00:21:19.000 Let's be clear.

00:21:20.000 We just discovered this at the Missouri level.

00:21:22.000 It's come out in Virginia and Tennessee and California.

00:21:25.000 It's all the same in general terms.

00:21:28.000 Some are even worse.

00:21:31.000 They just list everybody.

00:21:33.000 We've got to dig up that article from two years ago in the Denver Post.

00:21:38.000 The Federal Marshals went public, the Air Marshals, saying we've been ordered to put innocent people on Databases for Life for quotas.

00:21:48.000 Stay with us, Representative.

00:21:50.000 We're on the march.

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00:24:00.000 Unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

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00:24:52.000 Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.

00:24:56.000 We are back live.

00:25:06.000 We're going to be going to Tony Pacheco here in just a moment.

00:25:11.000 Freelance writer.

00:25:12.000 We want to get his perspective.

00:25:13.000 He's been at these hearings on the MIAC report in Missouri.

00:25:17.000 A window into the secret police world of Every local police department, state police, totally federalized spying.

00:25:25.000 We showed you internal FBI training videos where they say cell phones.

00:25:29.000 In fact, cue it up to that.

00:25:31.000 Cell phones, video cameras, sleeping bags, maps.

00:25:35.000 And of course, this has all separately come out that the Texas report that we also broke years ago.

00:25:42.000 But 2004, written by the Feds, said if somebody's wearing blue jeans, they could be a terrorist.

00:25:49.000 So it's basically everybody's a terrorist, but the government, the real terrorist, staging the terror attacks.

00:25:54.000 I want to go to Tony here in just a minute, and I want to keep Representative Guest on with him.

00:26:00.000 But Representative Guest, it came out in testimony, and we have a story written on this with links to it.

00:26:08.000 That there were provocateurs at the Fed rally, and they were overheard saying, yeah, we can't even get them to jaywalk, we're not going to be able to arrest them.

00:26:16.000 And in Denver last year, the police had to admit they did stage attacks on themselves.

00:26:20.000 The Canadian rollout of police got caught at the SPP meeting doing this.

00:26:25.000 Can you tell us about provocateurs, anarchists at the, in the Fed rallies, and now confirmed at the Tea Parties?

00:26:32.000 I guess they must be.

00:26:33.000 I speak of one, so I must be one of them.

00:26:35.000 I asked that question at those end of the Fed rallies there in Kansas City, because I spoke of them.

00:26:40.000 I asked the people, I said, do you watch these, infiltrate them?

00:26:43.000 And they said, no, we're not of concern to them.

00:26:46.000 However, I have trouble believing that, because we see some people at those rallies that we do not recognize, and they just don't fit in.

00:26:55.000 We, that's our concern, is that there will be those provocateurs, somebody to stir some up, create an incident to justify taking action against these people, protesting the Federal Reserve, or protesting what these MIAC reports have done.

00:27:12.000 So, at some point, I think we're, I'm concerned, afraid that that's what's going to happen to justify this.

00:27:18.000 And the other problem we have is the Department of Homeland Security has an interest in putting money into it.

00:27:24.000 And I think they have undue influence on what's going on.

00:27:27.000 The people in these MIAC groups say that, you know, they deny that, say that's not the case.

00:27:33.000 But then they do say, you know, well, they are a source of funding to us to keep some of our organizations going.

00:27:39.000 Well, that's what these threat fusion centers are, is where they're moving, generally in former federal buildings or former National Guard armories all over the country, they move the county, the city, multiple counties and cities into one roof.

00:27:54.000 The feds give them cars, helicopters, armored vehicles, dial in to the systems that track cell phones real time, to the federal cameras, the face scanning, the license plate reading cameras.

00:28:07.000 And they're just totally federalizing police.

00:28:09.000 They send them out to spy on everybody and then report people back into these databases that are just full of made-up enemies list and innuendo.

00:28:19.000 My dad got pulled over a couple years ago in East Texas driving back from our family ranch.

00:28:25.000 at about 10 o'clock at night, and the guy said, yeah, the cameras flagged you.

00:28:28.000 And people that don't believe this just Google town runs every plate of every car.

00:28:34.000 And you'll see it in Florida and Indiana and Texas.

00:28:36.000 And the feds pay grants to put these in.

00:28:38.000 And my dad was driving through this little town flagged as Alex Jones because I had an old car that I'd sold him.

00:28:46.000 My dad will never buy a new car, so I at least sold him one of my old cars.

00:28:50.000 It's not that he's a penny pincher, he just doesn't like to, he's just from the country, he doesn't buy things.

00:28:55.000 He's got shoes with holes in them and everything else.

00:28:58.000 So I sold him this car for next to nothing, so it had my name on it.

00:29:02.000 And they pulled him over and they got, and they said, are you Alex Jones?

00:29:05.000 You know, I've got you in the database.

00:29:07.000 This said, proceed with extreme caution.

00:29:10.000 And my dad said, how do you know that?

00:29:12.000 And they said, well, we have this whole database on you now that the feds gave us.

00:29:16.000 So my daddy gets to get interrogated because of me.

00:29:19.000 I mean, that's, this country's Nazi Germany!

00:29:23.000 There's somebody looking over your shoulder at all points, and my question I had here in Missouri is why is the MIAC headquarters, which is supposed to be under the direction of Highway Patrol, located on a military base?

00:29:35.000 I haven't got an answer back to that question yet.

00:29:40.000 It's just amazing that all of this is...

00:29:45.000 is going on and obviously it's by military base because you can pull up in fact guys google this for everybody or startpage.com for everybody uh... if you can the term army liaison officers or or army officers and local police departments and you'll get hundreds of heads where they go all the army's just part of our department now representative guest have you heard

00:30:08.000 The new report that's come out out of the Hill newspaper and out of the Progressive, that now the Army wants 400,000 troops on the streets of America to quote, deal with domestic extremists.

00:30:19.000 400,000 troops.

00:30:19.000 400,000 troops!

00:30:21.000 I mean, this is really happening.

00:30:24.000 You know, that's our fear, is that we'll have martial law declared.

00:30:29.000 We'll already have these federal troops in place around here. 0.52

00:30:33.000 And no longer will your local law enforcement be in control, but it'll be the militaries.

00:30:39.000 So, that's just one step towards going enough to that point.

00:30:43.000 Representative, I want to bring up Tony, who is a freelance writer.

00:30:53.000 Thank you Mr. Jones.

00:30:55.000 Hello Mr. Guest.

00:30:56.000 How are you?

00:30:57.000 I'm fine.

00:30:57.000 very informative for the examiner.com chuck baldwin 2008 vp candidate castle testifies regarding my act and uh tony it's great to have you up with us thank you mr jones hello mr guest how are you i'm fine uh tell folks just from your perspective what you've seen at these hearings well um it's

00:31:20.000 Obviously, the majority of the time was spent on the MIAC reports themselves, but it was pretty interesting what came out with Dr. Sissy Spraggan's testimony.

00:31:33.000 And I got ahold of her last night and got her to elaborate a little bit more on what happened.

00:31:40.000 So if you don't mind, I could go into that for just a minute.

00:31:43.000 Yes.

00:31:43.000 And Tony, I want to get this right.

00:31:46.000 Is it Pacheco or Pacheco?

00:31:48.000 It's Pacheco.

00:31:49.000 Pacheco, great.

00:31:51.000 Please continue.

00:31:51.000 Tell folks this breaking information.

00:31:55.000 Oh, sure.

00:31:56.000 And just to be clear, she's under the impression that they were harmless, but her story, in my opinion, will kind of say otherwise.

00:32:06.000 She basically said that they were trying to recruit them to cause trouble, and then she went on to say that You know, there's four or five of them, rather young, and that they were trying to get them to basically go and disrupt traffic.

00:32:30.000 And that was one of the four things that that Army Defense report on Indefed, you know, to go out and spy in, that was one of the four things that said that they were trying to avoid.

00:32:46.000 Yeah, and then that's always the blueprint.

00:32:47.000 The Army says these may be terrorists and they try to block traffic.

00:32:50.000 They're terrorists.

00:32:51.000 That's a violation of infrastructure protection.

00:32:53.000 Then the Army can get involved.

00:32:56.000 And we wrote a big story with all the declassified examples of the feds and the states doing this.

00:33:04.000 We've got to have people at every event who Basically stake out these events to surveil the people who are surveilling or counter intelligence because if we just expose the police and the feds a few more times and start demanding some jail time because it's criminal to try to go out either with provocateurs or with feds themselves or agents themselves and try to get people to commit crimes that is a crime that is not just entrapment That is criminal.

00:33:34.000 Representative Guest, I mean, it's one thing to ask somebody, hey, you want to buy some drugs?

00:33:38.000 And, you know, courts have said that's bad, but not really illegal.

00:33:41.000 But to go out and try to get people to commit crimes and try to lead people into crimes at political events so you can crack down on free speech, this is high treason.

00:33:51.000 It is, and I was just looking at my notes here.

00:33:54.000 what Tony was talking about here.

00:33:56.000 When Sissy testified, she brought up the point that in the Department of Justice Training Manual, they call protesters low-level terrorists.

00:34:05.000 So basically, they are...

00:34:09.000 Anybody that protests anything out there, as we've said all along, goes on the list of terrorists.

00:34:15.000 See, that's my point.

00:34:16.000 Two weeks ago it came out that the Justice Department in a document says all protest is low-level terrorism.

00:34:22.000 That's an actual quote that they're teaching police, military, and feds.

00:34:27.000 And people who accuse us of exaggerating how bad it is, how much worse does it get?

00:34:32.000 It's worse than we even remember.

00:34:35.000 In fact, guys, you can Google that, protesting low-level terror, or startpage.com, that, another great search engine, and pull that up for people, because folks need to see this for themselves.

00:34:47.000 Go ahead.

00:34:49.000 My point was, I think I asked her, I said, all these people protesting these rallies, the national health care plan, are they being classified as low-level terrorists?

00:34:57.000 Basically, it's getting to the point that anybody who talks against the federal government or who protests or voices their displeasure in it are being classified as a terrorist or a threat to this nation or a threat to their government.

00:35:11.000 And that's absolutely false.

00:35:12.000 You know, we're supposed to have a country that was based upon the freedom of speech and the freedom of expression without having any retribution taken against you.

00:35:22.000 But that's not the case.

00:35:23.000 We're being classified as a potential threat.

00:35:30.000 Absolutely.

00:35:32.000 Tony, as a reporter at these events, continue with the provocateur angle or any other key tidbits you'd like to relay to folks.

00:35:40.000 Well, if you don't mind, could I tag on to what Mr. Guest was saying about... No, whatever you want, sir.

00:35:45.000 Say whatever you want.

00:35:47.000 Yeah, it all, you know, really picked up steam back after 9-11 when Bush said, you're either with us or you're with the terrorists.

00:35:55.000 And from then on, they kind of had an exclusive You know, deal with public opinion, and anybody who said anything outside of that was with the terrorists.

00:36:04.000 And then now, unfortunately, President Obama has taken the hand off of Bush, and now anybody that's against their policies, you know, are racist or otherwise.

00:36:18.000 But it's starting to backfire.

00:36:22.000 You know, that's the point, is people can see how bad these Hit pieces are, and then they go and look otherwise.

00:36:30.000 So I think it's kind of blowing up in our face.

00:36:36.000 One thing that we're not getting was I was hoping the way these hearings would get more.

00:36:40.000 Obviously, Alex, you're doing a great job here, but some of our local news media are not picking up on this.

00:36:46.000 And I guess that's probably not too surprising that they don't want to.

00:36:53.000 I don't want to put too much visibility on what we're doing here in the investigation, and the testimony is taking place, but I was hoping we would see more media, TV coverage, even newsprint coverage of these hearings that's going on.

00:37:06.000 But it depends on whether they're told to cover it up and not make it public or not.

00:37:12.000 But certainly, I and others that believe in the threat that's here are going to make it public.

00:37:21.000 Yes sir, we appreciate you.

00:37:23.000 And Tony, there's a reason.

00:37:25.000 In fact, there's the article.

00:37:27.000 DOD training manual describes protest as low-level terrorism.

00:37:31.000 We have a link to it, and the ACLU's also got a link to it covering it.

00:37:35.000 So yes, it's real.

00:37:37.000 Protesting is an act of terror.

00:37:39.000 Because we have terrorists running our country.

00:37:42.000 But of course, these are secret.

00:37:43.000 It's secret they've turned the police into secret police.

00:37:46.000 It's secret they're all reporting back to the Feds.

00:37:49.000 It's secret that they're saying gun owners and veterans are the number one threat.

00:37:53.000 And they don't want us to know that Homeland Security and NORTHCOM is for us.

00:37:57.000 The Feds are controlled by the offshore banks, period.

00:38:00.000 They're fraudulently taking us into receivership.

00:38:03.000 And if we're aware of the fraud they're perpetrating, they won't be able to get away with it.

00:38:07.000 So, it is essential.

00:38:09.000 that we expose this is going on not just in the U.S., but worldwide, and that this entire police state's been set up for us.

00:38:15.000 And the good news is police and military are really waking up.

00:38:18.000 They're very upset about what's happening.

00:38:21.000 But this lets us know who the federal government is.

00:38:25.000 It lets us know that it's being run by very anti-American tyrants who really want to turn America into the Soviet Union.

00:38:32.000 Mr. Jones, may I chime in about the media coverage?

00:38:36.000 Yeah.

00:38:38.000 Yeah, I believe I was pretty much it.

00:38:41.000 I mean, I showed up, you know, and some of my family said, well, do you think any of the media will be there?

00:38:47.000 And, you know, I said, well, you know, there should be maybe a camera or two, you know, and I show up and I drove past the building because I didn't see any hoopla.

00:39:00.000 And then it turns out that I was at the right place.

00:39:03.000 I go in there, you know, I watch the hearings, I go home, do the report, and then when I wake up in the morning, you know, I see a couple letters in my email box wanting to know more information about the hearing because I was the only one that wrote an article about it, and that's, you know, the majority of the public fits in the categories of that report, and the only reason I went

00:39:29.000 I wanted to go to these hearings, but I didn't know when they were, but thankfully you guys posted it on your InfoWars website last week, so I was able to go.

00:39:39.000 I took a vacation day from my 9-to-5 job, went out there, covered it, and I'm glad to get the word out.

00:39:48.000 Well, good job, sir, and we'll continue to watch the reports you're doing, and feel free to write great reports, to file reports for InfoWars.com.

00:39:57.000 Just send those in to writers at InfoWars.com if you want us to publish your fine work.

00:40:02.000 And, Representative Guest, as this continues, we'll keep checking in with you, but this isn't just a report demonizing patriots.

00:40:10.000 This is about the federalization of police.

00:40:13.000 Representative Charles Key of course of Oklahoma and others that I've had on from Oklahoma, when they just try to have state sovereignty declaration or when they say they're not they're going to follow the Bill of Rights, the state police, the local police show up And change the subject and say, don't you want to stop bank robberies?

00:40:30.000 You've got to spy on your neighbors.

00:40:32.000 They always change the subject.

00:40:34.000 They have already been federalized.

00:40:36.000 Most of them, most of the police chiefs are CIA or FBI.

00:40:39.000 That's on record.

00:40:40.000 And so we have to understand that we need to start removing these police chiefs and sheriffs and other people that are singing to the wrong sheet of music.

00:40:48.000 We're the people.

00:40:49.000 We run this country.

00:40:51.000 And we're tired of the banking cartel coming in with a corporate takeover.

00:40:55.000 And so, when you've got the police trying to come in and muscle the state representatives, that's called treason.

00:41:03.000 That's pretty heavy-handed, and the next hearing is going to be on September 9th in the southwest corner of the state of Missouri.

00:41:10.000 It's going to be at Springfield.

00:41:11.000 I don't have the exact location.

00:41:13.000 We had people that drove from Oklahoma to testify there in Kansas City, so if people want to become a part of it and provide their testimony, that'll be their next, in that part of the Absolutely, and call all the newspapers all over the country and say, why aren't you covering the secret police and the federalization?

00:41:30.000 And the fact that the federal marshals say they're ordered to put innocent people in the databases under quotas, and there's no judge, no jury.

00:41:37.000 Now they say no fly, you won't be able to buy a gun.

00:41:40.000 This is all, I mean, we're all being put on list, folks, and if we let them have a chilling effect and shut us down, and cower us into shutting up, they win!

00:41:49.000 That's why they're coming out and saying to criticize government is now racism.

00:41:52.000 To say you don't want socialism is racism.

00:41:55.000 I think I saw a new clip on the Alex Jones Channel this morning on YouTube of Chris Matthews.

00:42:00.000 saying that if you criticize all the White House servants, you're racist.

00:42:05.000 If you criticize big government, you're racist.

00:42:08.000 They're using this as psychological weapon to say, don't you criticize big government, racist, thinking they can use white guilt to make you go, well, okay, I don't want to be called a racist.

00:42:18.000 Hey, I think I like strawberry ice cream, not vanilla.

00:42:23.000 That's racist.

00:42:24.000 I think I like black shirts, not white shirts. 0.95

00:42:26.000 That's racist.

00:42:27.000 I think, you know, I like the swimming pool at 85 degrees, not 75. 0.95

00:42:30.000 Racist.

00:42:31.000 I like blue skies. 1.00

00:42:32.000 Racist. 0.66

00:42:33.000 You know, I like to breathe air. 1.00

00:42:34.000 Racist. 0.96

00:42:35.000 Basically, you have no thoughts. 1.00

00:42:36.000 Just the high priest of mind control and political correctness just saying, shut up, do what we say or we'll call you racist. 0.96

00:42:42.000 Representative Guest, and of course the writer also, we appreciate both of you for joining us.

00:42:47.000 God bless you and take care.

00:42:49.000 Okay, thank you Alex.

00:42:50.000 Thank you.

00:42:50.000 You bet.

00:42:51.000 Take care, gentlemen.

00:42:52.000 We'll be right back with Psychology Today's hit piece on me.

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00:51:51.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:52:03.000 Big Brother.

00:52:04.000 Mainstream media.

00:52:06.000 Government cover-ups.

00:52:08.000 You want answers?

00:52:10.000 Well, so does he.

00:52:11.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:52:15.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:52:22.000 Alright, Max Keiser coming up in the next segment.

00:52:25.000 I want us to spend some time now on this.

00:52:27.000 There's an article called Dark Minds.

00:52:30.000 Field Guide to Conspiracy Theorists, and they've made hundreds and hundreds of new psychological designations. 0.99

00:52:36.000 Don't like big government, don't like corruption, don't like Nazi Germany, don't like Soviet Russia, you're mentally ill.

00:52:42.000 And Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany had psychiatrists, you know, were the first groups out having people detained and grabbed. 0.98

00:52:50.000 And notice right next to it is another mood disorder or You know, another drug ad is right next to the story, hit piece on me.

00:53:01.000 I mean, this whole thing is drug ads.

00:53:04.000 And I'm somebody that criticizes that 20% of our kids and 18% of adults, and now the government wants, under drug company lobbying, to have 50%!

00:53:13.000 New Freedom Initiative!

00:53:14.000 And this guy just says, Jones makes things up, Jones, uh... You know, I almost can't even get into this because there's so much disinformation here.

00:53:26.000 You know, Jones thinks there's FEMA camps.

00:53:28.000 Jones thinks Halliburton's involved in child kidnapping.

00:53:31.000 And that was all over the news.

00:53:32.000 Chicago Tribune, you name it. 0.89

00:53:35.000 I mean, it's come out about Blackwater and the child prostitutes.

00:53:40.000 I mean, it's come out about the U.N.

00:53:43.000 And he would, when I would say that, he'd go, really, what's your proof?

00:53:45.000 And I'd go, well, just search engine, U.N.

00:53:48.000 child kidnapping, Halliburton.

00:53:50.000 And he just would laugh at me. 1.00

00:53:51.000 I mean, it's not funny, you smart-ass, smug little bastard. 1.00

00:53:57.000 I mean, this stuff isn't funny! 0.99

00:53:58.000 And he says, Jones just gets irate when you challenge him on his made-up stuff.

00:54:03.000 I'm not making any of this up, and you know it!

00:54:08.000 And it just goes on here in the article.

00:54:10.000 It says, we're all conspiracy theorists to some degree.

00:54:13.000 We've all hardwired to find patterns of threat.

00:54:18.000 Yes, like the Bengal tiger in the bushes in Central Asia.

00:54:22.000 Or the lion on the African savannah.

00:54:25.000 To see patterns.

00:54:26.000 I mean, what?

00:54:27.000 Patterns.

00:54:27.000 They're openly announcing world government, but he says that's a crazy conspiracy theory I have.

00:54:32.000 They're openly announcing a new Bank of the World to carry out global governance in Newsweek, Time Magazine, you name it.

00:54:39.000 And I sent him all this.

00:54:42.000 He didn't want it.

00:54:44.000 He just wanted to write an article to fill in the pages between drug ads.

00:54:50.000 But the really sick part is the end where he says, That I'm basically calling for violence, but here we go.

00:54:59.000 In his 1954 classic, The Paranoid Style in American Politics, historian Richard Hofstantner Hypothesize that conspiracy thinking is fueled by underlying feelings of alienation and helplessness.

00:55:15.000 Well, why do the police have hundreds of thousands of charges of conspiracy every year?

00:55:19.000 Conspiracy just means two people get together and have an agreed-upon plan.

00:55:23.000 Government and corporations don't do that. 0.98

00:55:28.000 Recent research supports his theory.

00:55:31.000 Oh, yes, from other psychologists.

00:55:35.000 New Mexico State University psychologist Maria Albanonia Papa has found that people who endorse conspiracy theories are especially likely to feel angry, mistrustful, alienated from society, and helpless over larger forces controlling their lives.

00:55:56.000 Yeah, if you're awake and your kid got shot in the back by police or CPS took your kid, you know, you're going to be pissed off!

00:56:05.000 You're going to be alienated!

00:56:07.000 And then, I mean, you heard the representative when they tried to have hearings about the MIAC report, they would go, we're not talking about the MIAC report.

00:56:14.000 We're going to talk about stopping bank robbery.

00:56:16.000 Let's not talk about conspiracy theories.

00:56:18.000 I had the reporter in here yesterday and she said, I can't find the MIAC report about Ron Paul and Bubberspeakers.

00:56:24.000 I flipped it open and said, right there, oh I didn't see that before.

00:56:27.000 And she was thinking I hadn't read it or looked at it.

00:56:30.000 I mean, you know, just because you say it isn't there, just because you say the moon is made of cheese doesn't make it so, folks.

00:56:39.000 So I'll come back and finish up with this, but the end part.

00:56:43.000 I mean, it's just, basically I am the new Helter Skelter.

00:56:50.000 I'm the new You know, evil Charles Manson with an army of killers.

00:56:57.000 We'll be right back.

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00:58:58.000 Hello, this is Alex Jones with some important questions.

00:59:02.000 If you're going into a battle and they give you a rifle and a sidearm, how much ammunition do you want?

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00:59:39.000 We don't know.

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00:59:57.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

01:00:02.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:05.000 You know, tomorrow I'll do a more thorough debunking of this.

01:00:16.000 But I mean, there's really... Really not much to say about this.

01:00:23.000 I mean, it's just, it's a trashy, trashy article that just says I'm a liar and that I'm making stuff up.

01:00:31.000 Historian Richard Hofstetter had a hypothesis that conspiracy thinking is fueled by underlying feelings of alienation.

01:00:41.000 And it goes on to say, Jones insists he had a leave-it-to-beaver childhood.

01:00:47.000 Now see, that's taken out of context.

01:00:48.000 I said I had great parents that were like leave-it-to-beaver parents and were really nice.

01:00:53.000 Yes, how were your parents?

01:00:54.000 Parents were really nice.

01:00:56.000 Maybe a little too lenient sometimes, now that I'm a parent and look back on it.

01:01:01.000 And just great parents.

01:01:02.000 I had no idea how great my parents were.

01:01:03.000 I've always talked about that.

01:01:05.000 And it's just impossible to this guy that I had a great life.

01:01:09.000 I mean, I grew up in a middle-class neighborhood on a golf course, and I, you know, dated cheerleaders and just went on camping trips.

01:01:19.000 Other than getting a lot of fistfights and seeing a lot of weird stuff growing up, seeing the police being drug dealers, and that was on record, that the sheriff went to jail for it, I had a great childhood.

01:01:32.000 But no, it's just a lie! 0.97

01:01:34.000 Because I wouldn't give this little bastard, because once I got into the interview, I could tell this was slimy. 0.99

01:01:40.000 And a hit piece. 0.99

01:01:41.000 This is exactly what I thought it would be.

01:01:43.000 He said, I want your parents' number.

01:01:45.000 My parents have told me, we do not want to be interviewed.

01:01:47.000 I said, my parents don't want to be interviewed.

01:01:48.000 They're private.

01:01:49.000 They're private, huh?

01:01:50.000 Problems with your parents?

01:01:51.000 No.

01:01:52.000 I go over to my parents every week or so.

01:01:56.000 We get along great.

01:01:58.000 Oh, what's wrong?

01:01:59.000 You hiding something with your parents, you know?

01:02:01.000 And so psychology today is saying I have a bad childhood. 0.99

01:02:04.000 I mean, just, it's made up crap. 0.98

01:02:08.000 Is there no end to these people? 0.99

01:02:10.000 Jones insists he had a Liebert to Beaver childhood.

01:02:13.000 I couldn't confirm such an idyllic past.

01:02:16.000 When I asked if I could interview his family or childhood friends, he insists his family were very private.

01:02:22.000 Very... I said, they're very private.

01:02:24.000 They don't want to talk to the media.

01:02:26.000 And he had not kept in touch with a single friend.

01:02:30.000 Now, I said, I know who some of my friends are, but they're, like, all off now with families.

01:02:33.000 I haven't talked to some of them in years.

01:02:36.000 One of my high school friends died.

01:02:40.000 And he said, can I have their names and numbers?

01:02:42.000 And I said, no, I'm not going to put my friends in a hit piece.

01:02:47.000 He didn't put that in here, though.

01:02:52.000 When I asked if I might look them up, he became irritated.

01:02:57.000 He doubted he could spell their names.

01:02:59.000 And besides, well, no, I was thinking of the Raceler brothers, who I was really good friends with in Austin, who I lifted weights with three days a week and went deep-sea fishing with and camping.

01:03:10.000 One of them is an engineer, the other is a... In fact, let's look up online right now, in front of everybody.

01:03:18.000 Look up Nate, Nathan Racler.

01:03:21.000 It's spelled like Roachler.

01:03:23.000 Racler.

01:03:25.000 And Roger Racler was a UT football player.

01:03:27.000 He was two years younger.

01:03:30.000 I mean, here, let's look him up.

01:03:31.000 I said, I said, well, there's the Ressler Brothers, and he goes, how do you spell that?

01:03:34.000 And I said, oh, I could look it up.

01:03:35.000 And he goes, no, that's all right.

01:03:36.000 Because he didn't want that.

01:03:39.000 He just wanted to make it sound like, oh, with any of my friends, I couldn't spell their names.

01:03:45.000 See how this is, this is crazy mind games from flim-flam men who just want to, oh, look, the Chicago Business School, where the neocons came from.

01:03:55.000 There's only drug ads in here except for a Chicago Business School ad.

01:04:01.000 With a Straussian view of... And it goes on to say, uh... When I asked if I might look them up, he became irritated.

01:04:14.000 He doubted he could spell their names.

01:04:16.000 And besides, I'd already taken up too much of his time.

01:04:20.000 I turned down 50 or 60 requests for interviews this week, which was true.

01:04:24.000 The Obama deception had just come out.

01:04:26.000 Usually we turn down I don't know, Deuce said three today, probably four or five more will come in by tomorrow, so let's say five a day.

01:04:34.000 Five a day in a week is, uh, twenty-five, thirty, so I mean, do the math, what's seven times five?

01:04:41.000 We're talking about thirty-five interviews.

01:04:43.000 But back then, with the Obama deception peaking, yeah, it was... See, he doesn't understand that.

01:04:49.000 He was saying I was lying about millions of views of the Obama deception until I made him go online See, that's what I mean.

01:04:56.000 I mean, it's just they constantly spew their propaganda, which always turns out to be bull.

01:05:01.000 We tell the truth and then we're getting attacked.

01:05:05.000 Listen to this.

01:05:07.000 The number sounded wildly inflated.

01:05:12.000 He doubted he could spell their names.

01:05:13.000 Besides, I'd already taken up too much of his time.

01:05:16.000 I turned down 50 or 60 requests for interviews this week.

01:05:20.000 He wanted me to know.

01:05:21.000 The number sounded wildly inflated.

01:05:23.000 Conspiracy theorists have a grandiose view of themselves as heroes, manning the barricades of civilization.

01:05:30.000 At an urgent turning point in history, the psychologist held, Jones has a messiah complex.

01:05:38.000 Black contends.

01:05:39.000 Now, Black's the fake name of the pot-bellied Austin Chronicle guy who writes editorials saying that Sintra isn't a foreign-owned company taking over Texas roads.

01:05:52.000 Go to Sintra.

01:05:53.000 It's in Spanish.

01:05:54.000 Sintra is a Spanish company.

01:05:56.000 But they don't care!

01:05:57.000 They have such contempt for you, they will tell you it's American-owned!

01:06:04.000 Black contends that I have a messiah complex.

01:06:06.000 Grandiosity is one of the defenses against underlying feelings of powerlessness.

01:06:13.000 No, all I'm talking about is how powerful human beings are.

01:06:17.000 Even well-grounded skeptics are prone to connect disparate dots when they feel disempowerment.

01:06:21.000 I sent this guy link after link to government documents and UN documents on population reduction.

01:06:27.000 I mean, here's eco-science calling for drugging the water, taking children at birth, reducing the world population written by the White House science czar.

01:06:35.000 I mean, everybody knows about this.

01:06:37.000 This was in the Associated Press.

01:06:40.000 I sent him a whole bunch of stuff just like this.

01:06:42.000 He doesn't care.

01:06:43.000 He says, I'm making it up.

01:06:46.000 Look, I'll spend 30 minutes on this properly tomorrow.

01:06:48.000 Watson's doing one.

01:06:49.000 The worst thing is at the end, it says, uh, indeed there are no coincidences in Jones' world.

01:06:56.000 In a scene from the Obama deception, Jones dives into the belly of the beast.

01:07:00.000 The hotel where purported conspirators will be meeting.

01:07:03.000 See, he's, he wouldn't agree with me over the phone that I was really at Milderberg and really covered it.

01:07:11.000 Or that they didn't pull the fire alarm.

01:07:13.000 Or that we were being followed.

01:07:15.000 And I said, no, we were really being followed.

01:07:17.000 And he just said, oh, you were imagining you were being followed.

01:07:20.000 And I said, look, buddy, I had FBI guys come in and sit down to me next, at the hotel I was staying at, and ask if I wanted to attack the State Department.

01:07:28.000 He went, oh, sure you did.

01:07:31.000 I mean, you know, this is the type, I mean, it's just, this is what's crazy.

01:07:37.000 This, but it's not crazy.

01:07:38.000 It's crazy like a fox.

01:07:40.000 This is a drug ad. 1.00

01:07:42.000 Hundreds of billions of dollars a year in this crap. 0.99

01:07:44.000 That's all this is about, is them defending the takeover of our society. 0.99

01:07:51.000 Indeed, there are no coincidences in Jones' world.

01:07:53.000 And I talked to this guy.

01:07:54.000 He believed I was just having a schizophrenic episode in an imaginary hotel.

01:07:58.000 You know, just insanely thinking people were following me.

01:08:06.000 Used to, they would just say Bilderberg didn't even exist.

01:08:10.000 As he begins a telephone interview, the alarm bell goes off. 1.00

01:08:13.000 The bastards have set this up, he says. 0.98

01:08:15.000 Which, I had security walk up to me as I'm walking up from the restaurant eating, and they go, we don't like people setting off fire alarms. 1.00

01:08:22.000 You go to prison if you do that.

01:08:23.000 Said that to me and Rob Jacobson.

01:08:24.000 And we went, we're not pulling fire alarms, thank you.

01:08:26.000 Yeah, people try to rob the place.

01:08:30.000 And we were like... And so I go up to my room, close the door, coast-to-coast AM calls.

01:08:36.000 I pick the phone up and the fire alarm goes off.

01:08:38.000 I go downstairs and the head of security with Bilderberg Security walks up and goes, I'm gonna F and take you out, Jones.

01:08:46.000 I can call Jacobson's in here, he's a witness to it.

01:08:51.000 But see, I live in the real world.

01:08:53.000 It was all over the Canadian news, I got arrested in Canada.

01:08:56.000 I brought that up to him.

01:08:58.000 Not real.

01:08:59.000 I didn't go to Canada, didn't get arrested, wasn't in the front page of all their papers.

01:09:03.000 You know, just dozens of the top papers.

01:09:06.000 National Post, Toronto Star, all over the news.

01:09:10.000 And I've got my film.

01:09:11.000 Don't say that's grandiosity.

01:09:12.000 I have my film with the newspaper headlines.

01:09:15.000 That film is real, buddy!

01:09:17.000 But see, it's good they're denying everything to this level because it's so asinine when they say none of this exists and then people find out it does.

01:09:25.000 Just like Obama's people are saying there's no call for national compulsory service.

01:09:28.000 George Soros funded Media Matters is attacking me saying it's not real.

01:09:33.000 People then click on my site and see the video of Obama calling for it, and Rahm Emanuel calling for it.

01:09:39.000 Jones says that he's even been visited by the FBI and Secret Service, but can't discuss the interviews.

01:09:46.000 Well, since I did this interview three months ago, I now am not under federal gag order, and you can read the AP and Wired Magazine that the FBI and Secret Service were here for threats against government officials and police, and they subpoenaed the IP addresses and arrested the people. 0.85

01:10:02.000 So see, little jackass, it's real.

01:10:05.000 Okay? 1.00

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01:10:10.000 But then he has it both ways. 1.00

01:10:11.000 He says it may be that federal agents, in fact, wanted to evaluate whether he is a threat to the President.

01:10:16.000 No, they were here wanting me as a witness in the trial, and I quashed the subpoena for that one. 0.97

01:10:23.000 That's in the news, jackass! 0.93

01:10:27.000 There's no reason to believe he is, but the same can't be said of his listeners. 0.96

01:10:31.000 In 2002, Richard McCaslin, carrying an arsenal of weapons, entered the Bohemian Grove, a camping ground in California that annually hosts a meeting of the political and business elite.

01:10:40.000 He told authorities he had been planning his commando raid for a year after he says hearing Jones claim that the ritual infant sacrifice was taking place there.

01:10:49.000 He asked me about this and I said my film is on record that it's an effigy of a child and we've never said they're killing a real person.

01:10:55.000 I gave him the video, he didn't care.

01:10:57.000 He implies I'm saying it.

01:10:59.000 I explained McCaslin had been in the Marine Corps in Force Recon and was obviously out of his gourd and sending me weird hand-drawn comic books and that he'd worked at Six Flags playing the part of Spider-Man.

01:11:14.000 And that he'd tried to come around and I'd refused to meet with him.

01:11:17.000 He then moved out to California in what looked like a staged event in the middle of winter, dressed up with a bunch of weapons and went out there and set fire to a trash can and then waited for the police.

01:11:28.000 Looks like a staged event.

01:11:30.000 But see, that's all distortion.

01:11:31.000 He knows you don't have all that background, so this guy can manipulate you.

01:11:35.000 He wants to be a psychologist so he can have power over people.

01:11:38.000 How many psychologists have been caught doing weird stuff to their patients?

01:11:42.000 The war continues.

01:11:43.000 In a video promoting Obama deception, Jones urges, we know who they are, we know what they are, we know what has to be done.

01:11:50.000 Implying I'm calling for violence, when I was calling for political, peaceful action right after that in the film. 0.99

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01:15:57.000 All right, he's with us in about 15 minutes in the next hour.

01:16:09.000 We've got Wayne Madsen with Big Rock.

01:16:11.000 Max, of course, is the inventor of the Hollywood Stock Exchange System.

01:16:19.000 He's also a TV host on BBC, Russia Today, Press TV, three different TV shows this year, weekly TV shows.

01:16:28.000 He also has a radio show in London, and he is a frequent guest here at Good old Infowars.com and on the radio show and I'm excited that Jesse Ventura's crew is also interviewing him coming up soon for the new TV show Conspiracy Theory that I'm also in and a consultant on.

01:16:49.000 Show a lot going on and I'm glad I've been introduced to Max Keiser's big international audience and I'm excited to introduce him to our audience.

01:16:56.000 I think it's a great event that's happening.

01:16:59.000 This is a short segment, we'll come back in a long one and cover a lot of other issues, but commodities starting to go up, gold exploding, the media lying, saying the economy's good, underwear sales are up for men, they say that's always an indicator of an economy going up.

01:17:14.000 What do you really see happening with this economy?

01:17:16.000 I see the tens of trillions of dollars the banks have hoarded.

01:17:20.000 starting to trickle out and cause some action but overall jobless rates uh unemployment uh the rust belt i mean the real economy what i see is falling apart what does max kaiser with all of his economic acumen and gravitas tell us the reason the underwear sales are up for men is because a lot of men are making doo-doo in their pants their economy is so bad oh i was gonna say that

01:17:48.000 They got no job, they got no prospects, and they're incontinent.

01:17:52.000 So they get out of the store and they buy some fresh underwear, but they can't keep in stock because the economy is so bad.

01:17:57.000 You got a president who thinks he's starring in the West Wing Part II.

01:18:01.000 We don't even think he knows he's the president.

01:18:03.000 I think he's trying to get an Emmy Award.

01:18:05.000 In four years' time, they're going to give him an Emmy Award.

01:18:07.000 He won't even know he was in the White House.

01:18:09.000 It's a complete joke!

01:18:10.000 You've got the capitalism is failing, you've got systemic collapse, so naturally gold is pushing $1,000 again.

01:18:18.000 And let's talk about gold for a second, Alex Jones, because I was in Germany making a film about gold at the Bundesbank, which is the central bank of Germany, which acts more or less as the central bank of Europe.

01:18:30.000 We went in there, we talked to them about gold, and they told us that And I mentioned to them, I asked them, where is most of your gold?

01:18:37.000 And they said, well, you know, our gold is held in New York.

01:18:39.000 And this created a huge international uproar, which got the attention of a lot of gold.

01:18:44.000 Exactly, I saw that.

01:18:46.000 And again, that's just you as a real journalist asking a real question.

01:18:49.000 Then you ask New York, and they say Germany's got our gold.

01:18:53.000 Right, well, what's come out, and if you go to sites like the Gold Action Trust Action Committee and other sites that track the gold markets, Germany has been complicit in this scheme to keep the gold price down.

01:19:06.000 And them, along with the Wall Street banks, they lease out or lend gold to be sold in the open market with a wink and a nod.

01:19:14.000 And because they know that they're going to keep selling this market, this gold into the market, to force the price down, to give these banks easier, riskless profits as part of the collusion between the central banks and the Wall Street banks.

01:19:27.000 So this so-called growth you're talking about is all based on market manipulation.

01:19:31.000 These stocks like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and these other financial stocks are up big because basically it's the government buying stock for themselves.

01:19:38.000 They're laundering money.

01:19:39.000 All those tarp funds and all those bailout funds that they were on the receiving end after Boston held Congress hostage, they now have to figure out how to launder that money, just like any mafia kingpin has to launder the money.

01:19:51.000 So they go into the stock market.

01:19:53.000 They buy these bank stocks. 0.99

01:19:54.000 They suck in the public. 0.99

01:19:55.000 The public buys into it. 0.99

01:19:56.000 CNBC and Jim Cramer stomps up and down and says, buy bank stocks, buy the market. 0.97

01:20:00.000 The suckers come in again. 0.94

01:20:01.000 They launder the money, then they're out. 0.95

01:20:02.000 So once again, the public is being hoodwanked.

01:20:05.000 And is that what, Max, Max.

01:20:07.000 Max, you said months ago, Bob Chapman said months ago, Ron Paul said months ago, all our experts here said the same thing.

01:20:14.000 In fact, six months ago, people like Bob Chapman wrote it on record that That they would first run the market down to $6,000, then run it back up to $10,000, $11,000, $12,000, or even higher as a sucker's rally, and that they would do that by the big central banks, dumping all the money they'd stolen from taxpayers into the market, and that it was completely rigged, and that they would then plunge it even further.

01:20:40.000 Is the plunging we're seeing the start of that, or is this just a hiccup?

01:20:44.000 Will it continue to go up before they really rape the slaves? 0.98

01:20:48.000 Look, the people are on the short end of the stick, and on your show, Alex, I have talked about the casino gulag economy, about the only way that they're going to keep these suckers rolling is to introduce more gambling in the United States, and sure enough, in Kansas, The Heartland of America just announced that they're going to start introducing gambling. 0.58

01:21:10.000 Why?

01:21:10.000 Because there's no other way to stimulate the economy than vice.

01:21:13.000 You know, the mafia makes tons of money selling gambling, sex, and money laundering and other, you know, murder for hire and these other activities.

01:21:22.000 This is what the local government, the municipal government, the federal government knows.

01:21:25.000 The only way to raise money is to get into the gambling business.

01:21:27.000 So now Kansas is going to go gambling.

01:21:29.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:21:31.000 Not only will the state now, as you predicted, allow gambling, they're going to own it.

01:21:35.000 That's the Associated Press.

01:21:36.000 Revenue Hungry Kansas will be owner of new casinos. 0.96

01:21:39.000 Max Keiser, MaxKeiser.com is our guest.

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01:24:57.000 Yeah, when I saw this morning, it was Max that emailed it to me.

01:25:12.000 And I appreciate that, Max.

01:25:15.000 The Associated Press, and he sent me a bunch of other stories where everything's happening, now major states are going to own the casinos themselves.

01:25:24.000 I mean, it's, or the government, same thing with Russia.

01:25:27.000 The government is now just going to own all the vice.

01:25:30.000 That's why they've always had laws against vice, so they can tax it and regulate it and control it. 0.75

01:25:35.000 A license is something Is an authorization to do something that would be illegal.

01:25:40.000 So owning a gun is illegal, having a car is illegal, if they make you get a license.

01:25:45.000 That turns it into something illegal.

01:25:48.000 But we're shifting towards this and continue Max Keiser.

01:25:54.000 Yeah, in 1989, the Berlin Wall came down, and Yeltsin, who was then in charge, gave away all the industries to the Russian oligarchs.

01:26:03.000 Now, in the United States, when the Glass-Steagall Wall came down, separating the banks and brokers, it took a few years, but now we see the results, plus a couple of other deregulatory moves that happened since then.

01:26:16.000 But in effect, it's the same plan.

01:26:18.000 The nation's wealth is being given away to the nation's oligarchs.

01:26:23.000 The American economy is run by oligarchs.

01:26:27.000 And this was done in a premeditated fashion, and they put the police state in place beforehand to now try to use it to suppress people.

01:26:37.000 Go ahead.

01:26:38.000 Right.

01:26:38.000 I mean, you say the roads in Texas are run by a Spanish company.

01:26:41.000 Of course the roads in Texas are run by a Spanish company.

01:26:44.000 All the toll booth roads, all the bridges, all the ports are being sold off to foreign investors in exchange for these massive debts that have been run up for years, and there's no possible way to pay them back.

01:26:54.000 The total debt and burden of the U.S. is now $70 trillion.

01:26:59.000 The interest on that debt alone will never, ever be paid back, even if America puts in 100% of their income as a tax for 10, 20, 30 years.

01:27:08.000 You know, they're never going to pay it back.

01:27:10.000 So the U.S. is left to give foreign creditors more and more of America's infrastructure, all of its, you know, what some call selling the cow and then buying the milk.

01:27:20.000 Okay, so America's giving away their toll roads, giving away their ports, giving away their infrastructure, selling it on the cheap, basically in exchange for debt forgiveness.

01:27:27.000 And now America's got to pay through the nose to be on their own property, to pay on their own rents.

01:27:32.000 They're going to be paying foreign creditors.

01:27:34.000 And that deal in Texas for the Texas roads is just one example of a trend going coast to coast.

01:27:39.000 In California, the economy is technically bankrupt and they're giving away and selling huge portions of that economy to foreign creditors.

01:27:46.000 as is happening all over the United States, because the U.S. isn't too much in debt, and nobody in government is saying that the U.S. has to get off its debt addiction, which brings me to a very interesting topic, which I want to get into, which is this whole health care debate, you know, and it's an interesting debate because basically you know, and it's an interesting debate because basically it pits two forces in the American economy against each other.

01:28:09.000 There are those in the economy that want to charge monopoly pricing for healthcare.

01:28:14.000 That's the oligarchs, which include the insurance company.

01:28:17.000 And then the other side of the coin is, well, there's a possibility of paying competitive prices for health care.

01:28:23.000 That is that people in America would pay a competitive price.

01:28:27.000 There would be free competition in the health business and the insurance industry, so the consumer would benefit from competition.

01:28:32.000 But this debate under Obama's watch, and he's been completely asleep on this, is allowing the oligarchs to say, no, no, what's best for America is the oligarch monopoly pricing.

01:28:41.000 So I'm putting a challenge.

01:28:43.000 I'm putting a challenge to you, your listeners, and anyone listening.

01:28:47.000 I'm talking to the same people I talked to a couple years ago in London when we were putting together our hedge fund.

01:28:53.000 I'm trying to organize right now a million dollar payout to Americans, a million dollar payout to the victims of the U.S.

01:29:01.000 health insurance industry.

01:29:05.000 All we need to do is get the price of Whole Foods stock.

01:29:08.000 Remember the CEO of Whole Foods recently came out.

01:29:11.000 and said he was against competitive health pricing.

01:29:14.000 He's for the oligarchs.

01:29:15.000 He's for the monarchs.

01:29:16.000 And he pooh-poohed any idea that Americans should get any kind of decent health care.

01:29:20.000 If Whole Foods stock, because of this boycott, which is mounting and gaining speed all over America, on Facebook and Twitter and all these social networking sites, the boycott is exploding.

01:29:29.000 If we can get the share price of Whole Foods down to below $1 a share, it's currently at $28 a share.

01:29:36.000 It's worth about $4 billion.

01:29:37.000 If the boycott can get big enough to drive the share price to less than $1, then my guys in London are prepared to give $1 million away to victims of the American health industry, to America directly.

01:29:49.000 So, you know, my message to people in America who are complaining about the health care situation, do something about it.

01:29:55.000 Stop complaining.

01:29:56.000 Stop talking to people.

01:29:57.000 Max, let me stop you here.

01:29:59.000 I'm doing anything for you.

01:29:59.000 Let me stop you here.

01:30:01.000 Because what the establishment does is they always have false debates about issues that don't even resemble reality.

01:30:09.000 And so I agree with you to a point here, but I want to be specific and find out exactly what you're saying.

01:30:17.000 Yes, we have more and more a monopoly health care where big insurance companies and big mega health care businesses.

01:30:27.000 Doctors are paid about half what they were per capita for inflation in the 1970s.

01:30:34.000 They're certainly being squeezed.

01:30:35.000 The people are getting less.

01:30:37.000 The 30 million illegal aliens have bankrupt a lot of the state and county and city systems. 1.00

01:30:42.000 That's another factor.

01:30:44.000 So when we hear this healthcare debate, all Obama's doing is trying to give liability protection to insurance companies, HPOs, and big medical firms, and has nothing to do with even socialized healthcare, whether you're for that or against it.

01:30:58.000 So then the left all piles on.

01:31:02.000 Supporting the single payer when we're not even debating that.

01:31:06.000 The question is why do Americans pay three times when anybody else does for drugs? 0.98

01:31:11.000 Why are we known as the moron schmucks that get charged more for health care when we did have the best health care in the world? 0.99

01:31:17.000 So I don't think the British socialists wait two years for a brain tumor surgery. 0.99

01:31:22.000 And I've seen Tony Blair admit they do that on the House floor, on the Commons floor.

01:31:26.000 I know it goes on.

01:31:28.000 So we're not talking about that system.

01:31:30.000 None of us want that.

01:31:32.000 But the issue is big corporations have come in.

01:31:36.000 My dad's a dentist.

01:31:36.000 Here's an example.

01:31:37.000 Most of these big dental offices now that are big chains only take what they call capitation.

01:31:46.000 And that means that big companies come in and pay a company millions of dollars to say they'll take people on their plan, but then you get reduced care when you come in for it.

01:31:54.000 So Max Keiser, what I'm trying to say here to you, and my question is, what are we dealing with here?

01:31:59.000 I mean, what are you saying?

01:32:01.000 Because the healthcare debate... Okay, let me connect the dots, okay?

01:32:04.000 Let me connect the dots.

01:32:05.000 We know that America's energy policies are written by the energy industry.

01:32:11.000 Would you say that's a fair statement?

01:32:11.000 Okay?

01:32:13.000 When Cheney came into office in 2000, they had that secret meeting with Enron and the whole industry, and they wrote America's energy policy, which included, by some accounts, invading other countries.

01:32:13.000 Yes.

01:32:23.000 But the industry was writing the energy policy, not the administration.

01:32:27.000 I think so.

01:32:27.000 Fair statement?

01:32:28.000 How about America's defense contracting business and America's foreign policy?

01:32:32.000 And is that being written, in fact, by the same mercenary firms that stand to benefit from a corporate perspective?

01:32:37.000 Yes.

01:32:38.000 Okay, who's writing America's banking policies?

01:32:41.000 Is it the banking industry?

01:32:42.000 Yes, of course it's the banking industry.

01:32:45.000 There's no one representing the people when they're writing these policies.

01:32:47.000 It's the banking industry that's writing all these policies to benefit the banks.

01:32:51.000 So, you know, connect the dots.

01:32:53.000 Why should the health industry be different?

01:32:54.000 The health industry, all the policies are being written by the health industry.

01:32:59.000 That's the main point.

01:33:00.000 That's point number one.

01:33:01.000 Exactly.

01:33:01.000 So the reform we hear we're getting, either way, the Republican version is one monopoly.

01:33:07.000 the Democratic version is another monopoly.

01:33:10.000 Either way, no matter what you call for, it's going to be written by the lobbyists and going to be something completely different.

01:33:16.000 That's why I say we want nothing out of government.

01:33:19.000 We ought to pay him just to stop writing laws! 0.96

01:33:22.000 Okay, so listen, if we're saying that soliciting the government and petitioning the government is a waste of time, then, you know, we can agree that that's probably true.

01:33:32.000 And what I'm suggesting is that anyone in the country, in the United States, who wants to push back in a meaningful way, if you boycott this company, Whole Foods, to sufficient, to drive the stock price down to below a dollar a share, my guys in London are prepared to give a million dollars my guys in London are prepared to give a million dollars in cash to the victims of Americans' health care That means they'll all get one dollar a piece.

01:33:56.000 Well, first of all, it shows that the people have the ability to push back.

01:34:01.000 Okay, well, Max, flesh this out here, because you've never done anything like this on my show before.

01:34:05.000 I've got to be honest with you.

01:34:08.000 The owner of Whole Foods is a listener of this show.

01:34:10.000 He lives in Austin.

01:34:12.000 We have confirmed it.

01:34:13.000 Isn't it possible, Max, that he just disagreed with the government takeover, and that certainly was in the bill, of healthcare?

01:34:24.000 And he's saying people should just be healthier.

01:34:26.000 I mean, and we should eat healthier food, which I think is important.

01:34:30.000 I mean, I agree with you on a lot of stuff, but I'm not sure where this is going.

01:34:35.000 I mean, if they're able to bully, because the same George Soros outfits that are bullying, you know, everybody else about free speech and saying, if you disagree with Obama, you're a racist.

01:34:46.000 The same crew is saying, destroy whole foods.

01:34:50.000 Yeah, but why parse our words?

01:34:52.000 We know that corporations, they're all connected to the banking industry, including Whole Foods, it's a $4 billion company.

01:34:58.000 He's out there trying to parse his words and play both sides of the fence, and he's playing to an institutional investor audience, he's also playing to a retail audience.

01:35:08.000 I'm saying that we can agree that the government is not there, who's going to step up to the plate for the people.

01:35:12.000 The people have the ability to Okay, he's probably listening right now.

01:35:17.000 Okay, he's probably listening right now.

01:35:20.000 They're prepared to get a million dollars to the victims of the American health industry.

01:35:24.000 You know, if they can get that stock price to below a buck a share.

01:35:27.000 Now I realize you've got Austin.

01:35:30.000 It's a big presence in Austin.

01:35:32.000 I'll tell you what, I'll have Mackey, who's the CEO of Whole Foods, come on my show.

01:35:37.000 Well, I'll tell you this.

01:35:38.000 I have confirmed he's a listener every week.

01:35:41.000 And I told my guys just last week I want to get Mackey on.

01:35:44.000 See?

01:35:45.000 Have him come on my show!

01:35:47.000 I want him to tell the world why he thinks Americans shouldn't have decent health care.

01:35:51.000 Tell the world!

01:35:52.000 And he'll be laughed!

01:35:53.000 He's going to be laughed in his face!

01:35:56.000 But is that what he said in the Wall Street Journal?

01:35:57.000 like him get up and and and and positive that americans should deserve health care cheap at a price that they can afford it's absolutely unconscionable is that what he said in the wall street journal i mean he was saying he didn't like this obama plan that was written by special interest well i'm saying he's been happy to pay me on my show okay i I don't want to put you in the middle, okay?

01:36:20.000 Have him come on my show, and I'll play him.

01:36:22.000 I'll rip him apart, you know, verbally, on my show.

01:36:25.000 And, you know, that's enough on that.

01:36:26.000 But I'm saying that if the people out there want to push back against what they consider to be a corporate-controlled policy, that they're the victim of.

01:36:34.000 They're getting no savings.

01:36:35.000 They've got no pensions.

01:36:37.000 They've got no jobs.

01:36:38.000 Wages are going down.

01:36:39.000 The economy's going into the mud.

01:36:41.000 And the people are saying, what do we do?

01:36:42.000 What do we do?

01:36:44.000 I'm giving you a possibility.

01:36:46.000 We got this company down to the stock below a dollar share.

01:36:49.000 I've got a million dollars that I'm trying to raise in London to give to victims of the American healthcare industry and move it that way.

01:36:56.000 And I did this, I had a campaign like this in London two or three years ago.

01:36:59.000 It became international news.

01:37:01.000 We were talking about Coca-Cola and the hedge fund, talking about Coca-Cola.

01:37:05.000 And there was a legal opinion written about it.

01:37:07.000 They said this is an absolute legal method.

01:37:10.000 I'm not here attacking you.

01:37:17.000 I don't have a dog in the fight with Whole Foods.

01:37:19.000 I shop there sometimes and read what the guy said and I see this bullying going on where I have media matters saying I'm a liar, there is no plan for forced national service.

01:37:34.000 Now, you're an informed guy, you know they've introduced the bills, you know Rahm Emanuel's called for that.

01:37:40.000 And here's what I'm talking about.

01:37:42.000 Here's a short clip of Chris Manning.

01:37:44.000 They're just playing for time.

01:37:45.000 All they're doing is they're just trying to play out the clock.

01:37:47.000 They want to get rid of Obama and bring in, you know, God forbid, who knows, Dick Cheney again.

01:37:52.000 They're just trying to marginalize Obama for as long as they possibly can.

01:37:55.000 And the United States people need to realize this is probably the last 36 months they'll have, you know, as your film talks about fall of the republic.

01:38:04.000 It's not a stretch.

01:38:07.000 This is the last 36 months.

01:38:07.000 This is it.

01:38:09.000 Do you want to stand up and you want to fight for your economic freedom against corporate jihadists?

01:38:15.000 Or do you want to die in the mud?

01:38:17.000 Now that's a simple question.

01:38:18.000 No, I know.

01:38:19.000 I'm trying to understand here.

01:38:22.000 What would you do with health care then?

01:38:26.000 Well, the healthcare is obvious.

01:38:29.000 It's like any other business.

01:38:31.000 You want to get the best price for your healthcare.

01:38:34.000 There's nothing mysterious about it.

01:38:35.000 Drugs cost money.

01:38:37.000 Doctors cost money.

01:38:38.000 But that's not a free market to have Obama want to live.

01:38:41.000 You want the wholesale price?

01:38:42.000 Or do you want the retail price?

01:38:44.000 Do you want to pay the Tiffany prices and get crappy health care? 0.98

01:38:46.000 Or do you want to pay Walmart prices and get health care that works for you?

01:38:49.000 It's just a matter of pricing.

01:38:51.000 You know, health care is up in the mysteries about it.

01:38:54.000 You know, they talk about European health system and they talk about the system in Britain and the system in France.

01:38:59.000 Basically, it boils down to this.

01:39:01.000 You pay a low yearly amount of money when you break it all down and you don't have to think about health care.

01:39:07.000 People in France don't even think about health care because it's not even an issue because I don't want to fly to New York!

01:39:12.000 They don't sit around debating health care.

01:39:14.000 They solved that mystery 60 years ago.

01:39:17.000 America's still talking about health care 60 years after World War II.

01:39:21.000 It shows that they completely, there's the poo-poo caca phase.

01:39:25.000 You know, this Jesse Ventura show.

01:39:27.000 They want me to fly to New York to talk to Jesse Ventura.

01:39:29.000 And I'm like, I don't want to fly to New York.

01:39:30.000 I'd rather fly to Calcutta.

01:39:32.000 Do you think I want to go to that third world cesspool? 0.94

01:39:36.000 Talk to me by satellite! 0.97

01:39:37.000 I don't want to go to that ugly place!

01:39:39.000 I live in France, man!

01:39:40.000 They have a quality of life here!

01:39:43.000 Now Max, Max, Max, there are a lot of Canadians and Brits that do fly over here to get their healthcare.

01:39:58.000 I'm glad you love us so much.

01:39:59.000 Hey, anyways, it is kind of becoming like Mexico or a third world country here with the police and things.

01:40:05.000 But I want to play you Chris Matthews involved in social terrorism.

01:40:11.000 Here it is.

01:40:12.000 This is Chris Matthews.

01:40:14.000 People willing to allow Barack Obama and his stars to tax us into bankruptcy while Michelle Obama and her 26 aides live it up on our dime. 0.91

01:40:25.000 Wow, let me go to Jonathan Martin on this.

01:40:27.000 It seems to me, when I hear people going after the First Lady and the number of staff people they have, it sounds racist to me. 0.62

01:40:33.000 It sounds like people are mad we have a black First Lady. 1.00

01:40:36.000 That's what it sounds like.

01:40:37.000 There's no question that that is, Chris, part of it, with a certain element in the conservative base in Texas.

01:40:43.000 Just the fact that we have a black First Lady... Alright, that's enough. 0.98

01:40:46.000 So, there you go.

01:40:47.000 You're like, why are we letting them frame the debate?

01:40:49.000 Why are we letting the major media frame the debate?

01:40:51.000 No, I know!

01:40:52.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:40:53.000 Why do we care if the mainstream is framing this debate or the insurance industry is framing the debate?

01:40:57.000 I understand Whole Foods, okay, they've got an interest in some of the media properties in Texas, okay?

01:41:04.000 They're marketing in Texas.

01:41:05.000 That's another story.

01:41:06.000 That's why I'm saying come onto my show, CEO of Whole Foods.

01:41:09.000 I talk to an international audience.

01:41:10.000 You try to justify your comment to the Wall Street Journal to an international audience, you're going to be laughed out of the show.

01:41:15.000 No one's going to buy your...

01:41:17.000 They're an advertiser, right?

01:41:18.000 What did that last statement mean about Whole Foods having interest in Texas media markets?

01:41:25.000 So come on your show because I said I was going to try to get him on this show.

01:41:29.000 You said that they're an advertiser, right?

01:41:31.000 You sang that.

01:41:32.000 No, no.

01:41:33.000 They're not an advertiser.

01:41:34.000 I misunderstood.

01:41:35.000 I thought you said they're an advertiser and I respect that.

01:41:39.000 No, they're not.

01:41:40.000 No, no, no.

01:41:40.000 I said I live in Austin.

01:41:42.000 It's where Whole Foods started.

01:41:45.000 There's a couple Whole Foods in Austin.

01:41:47.000 I was saying I don't have a dog in the fight.

01:41:50.000 I'm not connected to Whole Foods or the Saudi Arabians or ABC.

01:41:57.000 Or Scientology, or anything else, or the Catholic Church, or anything.

01:42:01.000 I'm an independent person.

01:42:03.000 So before the new rumor starts that I am Mackey, and I pull a rubber mask off at night, or that I'm Bill Hicks, have you seen that one?

01:42:12.000 Or that I'm the guy that... Well, Alex, I mean, a comparison of Bill Hicks is a compliment.

01:42:16.000 I mean, Bill Hicks is a brilliant social commentator.

01:42:19.000 He was more than just a comedian.

01:42:22.000 He really understood what was happening in the U.S.

01:42:25.000 and during the first Bush administration.

01:42:26.000 I mean, to be compared to Bill Hicks, who I believe is also from Texas, is a huge compliment.

01:42:31.000 No, they say I am him!

01:42:34.000 They say I am Bill Hicks, that I staged my death.

01:42:39.000 Well, now you know who thinks he's Bill Hicks is that guy Dennis Leary.

01:42:43.000 He thinks he's Bill Hicks, and that guy should be, you know, he stole Bill Hicks' act. 0.99

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01:45:52.000 I think a storm's coming.

01:45:53.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

01:46:02.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:46:05.000 I'm looking at the Fall of the Republic article that Paul Watson wrote.

01:46:18.000 It says personalities will appear in the movie.

01:46:20.000 Gerald Cilente, Alan Watt, Jesse Ventura, climatologist Tim Ball, economist John Perkins, Oath Keepers, Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, Webster Darbly, Bob Bowman, Wayne Madsen, George Humphrey.

01:46:32.000 We need Max Keiser in there, so please ask him to add Max Keiser.

01:46:35.000 And there's a bunch of other people, too, who are in the film, and so yes, Max is in the Max is in the trailer.

01:46:45.000 He's a big part of the film.

01:46:47.000 Where's the love for Max?

01:46:51.000 Kaiser, have you had a lot of coffee today?

01:46:54.000 I want to do a shout out to your crew.

01:46:56.000 Your crew is the hardest working crew in radio.

01:47:00.000 We were talking on the break what you need to do to show your gratitude.

01:47:05.000 You've got to show your crew some gratitude by what we discussed during the break.

01:47:11.000 Yes.

01:47:12.000 Yes.

01:47:12.000 So anyway, listen, Alex, we've got to talk about this Pirate My Film thing.

01:47:18.000 Tell me about it.

01:47:19.000 Yes, please.

01:47:21.000 Okay, PirateMyFilm.com.

01:47:24.000 I was on your show last time and I mentioned the site and I want you to go on the site And open an account, it takes 30 seconds, and you list a movie that you're trying to raise money for from the pirates.

01:47:38.000 This is the pirate futures exchange.

01:47:41.000 So, you say, let's say you need $50,000 for a film, you get people to give you $5 today, and then when you go make your film, you deliver a copy of the film.

01:47:52.000 But not only do they get a copy of the film, but you cut them in to any advertising that you might get from your film.

01:47:59.000 It's called a pirate yield.

01:48:01.000 So the idea is, for example... It's like sharing the booty!

01:48:04.000 Yeah, it's sharing the booty.

01:48:06.000 So your film, For All the Republic, which is coming out on October 21, which I'll be talking about on international markets and various outlets all over the world, you know, that film is going to get 20, 30, 40 million views.

01:48:18.000 That means advertising.

01:48:19.000 Now, if you all had shared in the financing of that film with your listeners, they would get some of that advertising money back to them at piratemyfilm.com.

01:48:31.000 I realize it might not be as sexy as a garden at a camp, but it's the joint!

01:48:36.000 You gotta check it out!

01:48:38.000 Oh, Kaiser, you're out of control.

01:48:40.000 Interesting.

01:48:42.000 I'll have to look at that.

01:48:42.000 I noticed somebody already made a dummy Alex Jones account.

01:48:45.000 That is not my account on there, but I will look into piratemygardeninthecan.com.

01:48:49.000 It only takes 30 seconds.

01:48:52.000 You start a film, you say the Alex Jones Untitled.

01:48:54.000 How do your crew do it?

01:48:55.000 Untitled Alex Jones film.

01:48:57.000 Okay, whatever the budget is.

01:48:59.000 How much is your last film?

01:49:00.000 You know, by the way, also, let me make this point about You, is that you're entirely financed by cash, and you don't actually use any debt financing.

01:49:11.000 So when people come against Alex Jones, they've got to realize that because you're honest about the banking system, you know, you can't go down to Wall Street and get a $10 or $15 or $20 million loan to build a movie studio.

01:49:22.000 You've got to do it the old school way. 0.74

01:49:24.000 You've got to get listers one by one by one, cash, money bombs, any way you can do it.

01:49:29.000 That's the Texas way.

01:49:30.000 That's the Alex Jones way.

01:49:32.000 That's the real way!

01:49:33.000 Well, I've been told it's strange, but no, we have no debt.

01:49:38.000 Everything is paid for.

01:49:39.000 Because they're not going to lend you any money! 0.50

01:49:40.000 Because you're a pariah!

01:49:42.000 You think Citibank or JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs are going to loan Alex Jones $50 million to make movies with what we say about them on your show?

01:49:50.000 No.

01:49:51.000 So you've got to go to the public.

01:49:52.000 So PirateMyFilm.com, it says, to hell with the studio financing, to hell Well, something you talk about is, we could pre-sell product placement in our films, but then we couldn't sell very much.

01:50:10.000 We have to sell it for a lot, you know, for what it cost us, because we do implant in the web versions some ads to try to get some of the money back.

01:50:21.000 Yeah, well the reason we have had success is our great listeners buy the videos, buy the books at InfoWars.com, and they're pretty low budget.

01:50:28.000 I mean, my biggest budget film, which is Fall of the Republic, is going to be about $160,000, $170,000, and most films cost $100,000.

01:50:34.000 We'll be right back.

01:50:34.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

01:50:35.000 And most films cost $100,000.

01:50:37.000 We'll be right back.

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01:51:57.000 All right, Max Keiser is our guest for another 15 Max Keiser is our guest for another 15 minutes.

01:52:19.000 Then we've got Wayne Madsen coming on.

01:52:21.000 Max, I wanted to get into some other subjects here.

01:52:26.000 You heard me, when you were on hold for a few minutes, getting into psychology today, attacking me.

01:52:32.000 And, I mean, it is whole cloth baloney.

01:52:36.000 It implies I'm estranged from my parents, that I know no one, that I'm a liar, that I'm delusional, that I'm calling for people to carry out acts of violence.

01:52:47.000 I mean, the system, don't they understand they're discrediting themselves just with their wholesale lying?

01:52:55.000 Well, you know, psychiatrists, remember Hannibal Lecter was a psychiatrist, so that's about as credible a representation of that industry as you're going to find.

01:53:04.000 Anybody who listens to the psychiatry industry might as well be going on a date with Hannibal Lecter.

01:53:10.000 Well, I mean, this whole thing is an ad for mind-altering drugs.

01:53:16.000 The editor's note, the editor looks like she's had her soul sucked out here. 1.00

01:53:22.000 I just get amazed by people this deceptive. 0.69

01:53:28.000 Just a crew of, talk about piratical people.

01:53:33.000 Do you agree with me that it really has become just a ruling class that wants to say everybody's mentally ill so they can manage their lives and force drug us in a THX113A, 1138 system?

01:53:44.000 Look, the oligarchy we talked about before, and it extends to these right industries, and the health industry and the drug industry is an industry that's being allowed to write policies for their own benefit.

01:53:55.000 And if they've got psychiatrists and psychoanalysts, remember, in the torture in Guantanamo Bay and these other areas in Iraq and Afghanistan, The American Psychiatric Association was actually having people there oversee the torture.

01:54:07.000 They were actually witnessing the torture.

01:54:09.000 Is that the role of a doctor?

01:54:10.000 To oversee torture?

01:54:11.000 So they're totally out of bounds in their industry.

01:54:15.000 They've been discredited by their participation in torture in these places.

01:54:19.000 And no one should listen to them.

01:54:21.000 And obviously they have an interest in selling drugs and to keep people as mentally unstable and as, you know, Incapable of forming rational thought and opinions as possible.

01:54:33.000 So, you know, to be, again, to be criticized by them, it only means you're doing the right thing.

01:54:37.000 Of course you're going to attract attention from that industry, because what you're saying is going to possibly take people off drugs, and that would cut into their profits.

01:54:45.000 So, of course you're going to be attacked.

01:54:47.000 I mean, I don't know why you spend more than five seconds on it.

01:54:49.000 Those people are just front men and pitch men for the drug industry.

01:54:53.000 If someone's listening to this show, they're not on mind-altering substances, It's because you have shown them the way toward a free thought environment that doesn't need to be told by the drug industry what to think.

01:55:08.000 You're cutting into their profits.

01:55:10.000 Anytime you cut into the industry's profits, you're going to be targeted by that industry.

01:55:15.000 If you come out and say that the banking industry is holding Congress hostage for a bailout, then the banking industry is going to come out and smear you publicly.

01:55:24.000 When I last time I did this campaign against Coca-Cola two years ago, the one I just described to you with Whole Foods, we got this guy All over America, they wrote a smear campaign.

01:55:33.000 If you look it up, Coca-Cola, Hedge Fund, you'll see that they were calling me all kinds of vicious names because I was actually threatening their profit centers.

01:55:40.000 If you threaten their profit centers, and their profit centers are all based on monopoly profits and oligarchical profits, they're going to come after you.

01:55:47.000 It's night follows day.

01:55:49.000 But as long as you people are supporting cash on cash, Yeah, it's just creepy to have George Soros and the Republicans and Psychology Today and the Wall Street Journal and just all attacking me, and I know it's because we're having success.

01:56:00.000 panning as it is.

01:56:01.000 Yeah, it's just creepy to have George Soros and the Republicans and Psychology Today and the Wall Street Journal and just all attacking me.

01:56:12.000 And I know it's because we're having success.

01:56:15.000 It's just, it's creepy.

01:56:16.000 Okay, but Soros, okay, let me tell you something about Soros.

01:56:20.000 He's a pure, pure hedge fund.

01:56:22.000 He's a pure hedge fund.

01:56:24.000 And hedge funds are a free-floating force in the financial universe.

01:56:29.000 They will go wherever they make money.

01:56:33.000 And that's my point.

01:56:34.000 In other words, if enough people boycotted Whole Foods to drive the stock price down, George Soros would be selling short Whole Foods for us.

01:56:43.000 Because he's a political atheist.

01:56:45.000 He'll just, a total pragmatist.

01:56:47.000 So why don't we use hedge funds to leverage our ideas instead of having the government use hedge funds to leverage their ideas?

01:56:55.000 Alright, final segment.

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02:00:07.000 Max, we're trying to get on your we're trying to get on your Hire My Film site.

02:00:27.000 It's crashed.

02:00:28.000 So a lot of the listeners are checking that out.

02:00:34.000 Well, it's in beta.

02:00:35.000 So, you know, I figured it would crash.

02:00:38.000 Yeah, it's in beta.

02:00:39.000 Sorry about that.

02:00:41.000 But, you know, it's going to... As I said, the point is that people can... It's the Pirate Futures market.

02:00:48.000 You can raise money for independent films.

02:00:51.000 And you can do so by sharing the revenues of pirate yield, pirate sales, as we were just talking about, with the people who are helping you finance the film.

02:00:58.000 So you're bypassing Hollywood.

02:01:00.000 You know, Hollywood is another monopoly in America that is not doing anybody any good.

02:01:06.000 Yeah, the only problem with your model is all these weasels out there will say they're part of your film now.

02:01:14.000 That's why I couldn't be part of something like that, at least in your early stages, because people would come invest in it just to claim they had a stake in it to mess it up.

02:01:24.000 I mean, have you ever dealt with infiltration, Max?

02:01:26.000 Oh yeah, but let me explain something to you.

02:01:27.000 First of all, these are not investments, okay?

02:01:29.000 People are pre-buying a copy.

02:01:31.000 They are pre-buying a copy.

02:01:33.000 So anyone who wants to buy a copy is giving you the order to buy the copy and giving you the money for the copy today, okay?

02:01:39.000 So they're going to get a copy of the film.

02:01:41.000 So it's like going to Amazon and getting something.

02:01:43.000 Now, the fact is, you can share as part of the revenues with those people who pre-bought a copy.

02:01:48.000 but they're not obligated to, you have the option to, and their expectation is that they may get nothing.

02:01:53.000 So this is not an investment, it's not an SEC-regulated investment.

02:01:57.000 It's like you buy a pack of cigarettes and you get a coupon, and the coupon might be worth something.

02:02:01.000 Here, you pre-buy a copy of your film, and you're going to give them a coupon.

02:02:06.000 So it's almost like a political action or supporting alternative film outside the existing corporate model.

02:02:13.000 Now I understand what you're doing.

02:02:14.000 That makes a lot of sense.

02:02:15.000 Very good idea, Max.

02:02:16.000 Okay, in the few minutes we've got left with you, briefly, because I respect your opinion on this, what do you see happening in the next month, two months, five months, six months, a year, with the economy, as people see that Main Street is still collapsing at an accelerated rate, while the media says Green shoots, Valhalla, Stock market up!

02:02:37.000 I mean, where do you see this going?

02:02:40.000 The deleveraging is the word to keep in mind.

02:02:44.000 Deleveraging is the term used to describe banks that need to get rid of their bad assets.

02:02:51.000 And the banks have many, many more trillions of dollars worth of bad assets than the trillions of dollars that the government is throwing at the banks.

02:03:02.000 Now, in 2008, for example, You had a lot of people on your show who talked about inflation, because they said that the government was going to throw trillions and trillions of dollars at these bad banks, and that trillions of dollars were going to enter the economy in the form of price inflation.

02:03:15.000 Well, it didn't happen.

02:03:17.000 Why?

02:03:17.000 Because the amount of trillions of dollars that have been thrown at the banks is not as great as the many, many trillions of dollars of bad, toxic debt that have yet to be revealed.

02:03:28.000 The net result of that is actually, in 2008, had been Deflation, you know, shockingly enough.

02:03:35.000 The good news about deflation, by the way, is that gold bullion does well in both deflation and inflation.

02:03:41.000 It does well during extreme economic stress periods, and that's the play for gold bullion.

02:03:47.000 Forget about gold bullion in terms of an inflation play or deflation play.

02:03:51.000 Think about it in terms of an economic systemic banking failure play, and that is yet to be played out.

02:03:56.000 The banking sector has yet to collapse due to the implosion of hundreds of trillions of dollars of derivatives and bad debt.

02:04:05.000 And the fact that simply by Obama putting a few band-aids over the situation, the Cash for Clunkers scheme, all that does is defer the problem.

02:04:15.000 You know, people who owned a car outright for cash now have a monthly car payment.

02:04:21.000 So all they did was increase the debt.

02:04:24.000 They tried to solve that by increasing the debt.

02:04:27.000 So the debt payment is still very high.

02:04:29.000 The global creditors are still looking to America.

02:04:31.000 I think the trend for Americans is that they have to understand that the U.S. government is forced to sell off more and more of the American infrastructure.

02:04:39.000 Tolls, roads, as you find in Texas, that you talked about in your show, ports, and other vital infrastructure has to be sold to foreigners to forgive the debt, which means that the Americans are going to be living in a country that they themselves do not own.

02:04:55.000 But then meanwhile, Cintra came in through its Zachary Australian arm and bought up over 100.

02:05:03.000 It was 144 local newspapers on the Trans-Texas Corridor routes to shut them down from criticizing.

02:05:10.000 That's how much money they've got.

02:05:12.000 They spent hundreds of millions doing that behind these little papers.

02:05:15.000 Then they have the Austin Chronicle write hoax articles saying it's not Spanish owned.

02:05:23.000 The policies for media are, again, written by the media industry.

02:05:27.000 You know, here's a hot-button topic for you.

02:05:29.000 This hot-button topic is, what the hell was it described?

02:05:33.000 What was it called?

02:05:33.000 Not equal access, but there was a law a while ago, balance-access or equal access, you probably know the phrase, what I'm trying to think of.

02:05:42.000 It's when both, you know, they got rid of it under Reagan, when both sides were given the chance to comment on a topic, and then Let me make another point.

02:05:54.000 I forget what it is, but Reagan got rid of this because basically he's kowtowing to the media industry.

02:06:00.000 Let me make another point.

02:06:03.000 How come you're not getting subsidies and payments from guys like Glenn Beck, who simply take your emotion that you have demonstrated you can have on a public media platform and then use it to sell his agenda?

02:06:19.000 He should be paying you a monthly residual on basically what you pioneered, which is this very on-the-sleeve, overt, emotional type of presentation that Glenn Beck simply has stolen, and he uses it to put forward the Fox News agenda.

02:06:36.000 And that's outrageous!

02:06:37.000 He should be paying you every month.

02:06:38.000 He should be paying all your light bills, all your parking bills.

02:06:41.000 He should be paying you Alex Jones because he's a piece of fake copy! 1.00

02:06:44.000 He's a moron! 0.98

02:06:46.000 Well I tell you this in closing Max and I can't wait to get you back up with us and also be on your new TV show that I have talked to people at Fox and they admit that they are imitating us they are copying us on their internet shows they're even using the same video backgrounds we use it's very bizarre and Beck does do a copy of me but then he twists it 0.99

02:07:09.000 Yeah, exactly, because they, in other words, you pioneered this entire space of user-supported films and documentaries that go on the internet.

02:07:16.000 Now everybody's doing it.

02:07:18.000 You invented it.

02:07:19.000 You have a way of doing your show, which Glenn Beck tries to imitate, but push the Fox agenda, which is completely dubious and false and counter to what you're talking about.

02:07:28.000 They even use the same video filter for guests that we first used.

02:07:33.000 It's actually scary.

02:07:34.000 You can sue Glenn Beck for defamation or for whipping you off from trying to quote You know, the guys should be paying you cloning fees every month.

02:07:42.000 You know, the boxers want to get their own shows and their own presenters.

02:07:45.000 Why do they have to rip off Alex Jones?

02:07:47.000 Murdoch doesn't have any money.

02:07:49.000 He can't hire regular presenters.

02:07:50.000 He can't hire real talent.

02:07:52.000 He's got to hire these bozos.

02:07:54.000 You know, it's shocking.

02:07:55.000 And, you know, Jesse Ventura, let's face it, his new show, it's going to be a great show, I'm sure, but who pioneered the way for that show?

02:08:02.000 Alex Jones!

02:08:03.000 You know, I mean, you're redefining media in America.

02:08:06.000 And, you know, the mainstream media keeps saying, oh, it's not going to work.

02:08:10.000 Well, Max, you don't know how right you are.

02:08:12.000 I was talking to Ventura about six months ago.

02:08:15.000 No, it was almost a year ago.

02:08:16.000 It was last October when he was here.

02:08:18.000 And he said, yeah, I'm doing a new show called American Conspiracy.

02:08:22.000 And then on air, I said, that's funny, Jesse.

02:08:25.000 Watch this.

02:08:25.000 And I showed him the trailer for a TV show that was pitched two years before for me called American Conspiracy.

02:08:32.000 So they changed the name.

02:08:33.000 He didn't know that.

02:08:34.000 He didn't know he'd been pitched my show.

02:08:37.000 Uh, they pitched him a new show, uh, and they changed the name to Conspiracy Theory, and now they have changed it the way Jesse had the idea of he'll go out and judge Conspiracy Theory.

02:08:47.000 So, it's not really, but the zenith of it was that.

02:08:50.000 And that's what's scary, is to realize that I have trailblazed and pioneered unknowingly.

02:08:56.000 So much of what's happened, but you've also pioneered a lot of media activism and ideas in your own right.

02:09:02.000 I think that's a message to everybody else that they can pioneer new ideas and new thoughts by just getting out there and doing it.

02:09:10.000 Yeah, well the pioneers are the ones with the arrows in their back.

02:09:15.000 You know, the Pioneers, they go across the country and they open it up to trailblazers for the rest of the country.

02:09:20.000 You know, they're the ones that get the arrows in the back. 0.99

02:09:22.000 They're the ones that die on the trail, you know.

02:09:24.000 And then the people who come later say, oh, this is great.

02:09:26.000 What a fantastic trail.

02:09:27.000 But unfortunately, as a Pioneer, I have no choice and I can't, I just can't stay static and watch these lame mimics and clowns and ne'er-do-wells over there at Fox News and these other media outlets continue to rip people off and serve it up with their monopoly pricing schemes and they infiltrate the news, they don't give any kind of balanced reporting whatsoever.

02:09:48.000 They are responsible for the health catastrophe and the war catastrophe and the banking catastrophe. 0.96

02:09:54.000 CNBC has got to be held responsible.

02:09:56.000 James Cramer!

02:09:57.000 It's gotta be held responsible! 0.70

02:09:59.000 This guy is a financial terrorist, James Kramer!

02:10:02.000 Think of all the money he's blown out of people's accounts, going on TV every day, dancing and... When I was a stockbroker in 1982, okay? 0.80

02:10:09.000 It was illegal to put a color photograph in a perspective, because they thought it was too enticing.

02:10:14.000 Here we are, 2009, and James Kramer's practically doing a strip team.

02:10:19.000 No, no, he gets you all emotional and it's mad money, but it's like it's Crazy Eddie or something.

02:10:32.000 But let me ask you this in closing, and then we've got Wayne Madsen coming up with some breaking news on the CIA, always breaking big news.

02:10:40.000 When do you see the sucker rally ending, then, if it is a sucker rally?

02:10:45.000 It's not tradable.

02:10:48.000 Don't trade this rally thinking you're going to get in and out.

02:10:52.000 Just stick to your core positions, which are gold bullion.

02:10:55.000 Gold bullion has been averaging 20% a year for 5 or 6 years now.

02:10:59.000 Last year it was up 5% even during the catastrophe of 2008.

02:11:03.000 Just stick to your core positions.

02:11:04.000 If you want to get actively involved in this market, do what I'm telling you, which is to get involved in this boycott Whole Foods and encourage George Soros and his other hedge funds to sell short Whole Foods and to drive that stock price down to below a buck a share.

02:11:17.000 And I've got people in London with a million bucks to give to the victims of America's health care industry based on that stock price going to below a dollar share.

02:11:23.000 And what, you have an article with the details of what you're talking about at MaxKeyser.com?

02:11:27.000 It'll be, basically it's the same thing I did two years ago at Coca-Cola.

02:11:31.000 If you look up Max Keiser Coca-Cola and the Carna Bank Hedge Fund.

02:11:36.000 So you haven't even put this out in press release yet.

02:11:38.000 You're talking about it here first?

02:11:40.000 I'm breaking it on your show!

02:11:41.000 Uh-oh.

02:11:43.000 Alright.

02:11:44.000 Hey Max, let me see you by the theater in the break.

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02:16:12.000 He's on the street in DC.

02:16:13.000 He just came out of an international TV interview.

02:16:17.000 Wayne Madsen worked with the National Security Agency.

02:16:19.000 A lot of times when you're watching C-SPAN, they're having an NSA hearing or CIA hearing.

02:16:24.000 You'll see him in the audience reporting.

02:16:26.000 He's just broken so many big news stories here on this show.

02:16:30.000 And he said he's been in the CIA government archives the last few days.

02:16:33.000 He had something big for us today.

02:16:35.000 But I originally wanted to get him on when we called him.

02:16:38.000 late last week, he said he was in the CIA archives and their archives couldn't come on then, was about his reports that are now coming out mainstream news that the makers of the vaccine won't take it, the doctors won't take the flu vaccine, but they want us to take it.

02:16:53.000 And of course, he originally broke that it was man-made.

02:16:55.000 Other virologists and scientists have now concurred with that.

02:16:58.000 So Wayne Madsen joins us now.

02:17:01.000 Should we get into the flu thing first?

02:17:03.000 Or the latest Blackwater torture?

02:17:05.000 Those hearings and Blackwater killings.

02:17:08.000 I should have said Blackwater and torture hearings. 0.98

02:17:12.000 I was watching yesterday.

02:17:13.000 Where should we start, Wayne?

02:17:14.000 Well, we can certainly go with the flu first because that's going to start to rear its ugly head at the end of this month now.

02:17:22.000 We're already in September.

02:17:25.000 Amazing that it's September 2nd, and they're now talking about quarantines, lockdowns of cities, mainstream news.

02:17:31.000 They're talking about implementing executive orders for this.

02:17:34.000 Do you think they're going to go with that, or has their fear-mongering not taken hold like they wanted?

02:17:40.000 Well, it's hard to say.

02:17:41.000 We're seeing directives coming out of various state governments, for example, that are talking exactly about things like forced quarantines and forced vaccinations.

02:17:53.000 We had Governor Schwarzenegger basically Sounded very dire warning about the number one in four people in California could get this flu and the chief epidemiologist for the state of Minnesota is talking about similar numbers in Minnesota and so now we have state officials Sounding this very severe alarm bell.

02:18:18.000 So, where is this all going?

02:18:21.000 I guess we won't know.

02:18:23.000 We saw President Obama urge people to get the H1N1 vaccine.

02:18:29.000 I think it would be interesting to find out if he is going to take it and he's going to have it administered to his two girls and Michelle.

02:18:37.000 Yeah, will his two girls get all three of the shots that Dr. Obama wants us to take? 1.00

02:18:44.000 Well, listen, if there was anyone in the White House press corps that had any you-know-what, they would ask that question.

02:18:52.000 But don't hold your breath on that because this White House press corps has shown itself to be totally compliant with all their puffball questions.

02:19:02.000 You're talking about a huevos free environment?

02:19:08.000 Well, I'll tell you that what I'm hearing about the vaccine, and this actually is coming, in one case somebody who was very instrumental in developing the smallpox vaccine is saying that he's not going to take this particular vaccine.

02:19:23.000 He's urging his family and his friends not to take it either.

02:19:26.000 Break that down for us.

02:19:29.000 Well, I mean, what we've got in vaccines, and I know that even NBC's Dateline, the other night, ran a story on the danger of vaccines, especially with the issue of autism, with this ingredient called thimerosal, which is one-half mercury, and also these

02:19:54.000 These are what's thought to have caused the Gulf War syndrome in the troops during Desert Storm who were administered vaccines, I would say.

02:20:03.000 I would note also against their will, of course, if you're in the military, they say they own you 24 hours a day, and we saw that appear terribly in the ailments of some of our returning troops from Desert Storm.

02:20:21.000 Now, under Level 6, and previously Level 6 was the highest, now it's 6.2.

02:20:27.000 It's like their spinal tap.

02:20:29.000 They're going from 10 to 11.

02:20:31.000 A new level of fear-mongering, or on the red color code, some color above it, purple, for even worse.

02:20:39.000 But under the executive order that CBS News is reporting on, it allows quarantines, forced inoculations, all of this.

02:20:51.000 Originally out in April in CBS News, but we'll zoom in on this article there for people at PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:20:58.000 And yeah, it's now in Iowa and in Massachusetts.

02:21:02.000 They're preparing to come in your house without warrants, forced injections.

02:21:06.000 And then Texas passed a law where they're going to take blood now at checkpoints without warrants.

02:21:12.000 I mean, just any excuse to get in our bodies.

02:21:17.000 And also I saw a directive from the state of Tennessee that talks about maybe having to close banks down.

02:21:23.000 That the banks would be allowed to close for business if they're concerned about people transmitting the flu in banks.

02:21:30.000 So we're seeing a lot of this stuff now coming out from various state and local governments.

02:21:37.000 Absolutely.

02:21:38.000 Wayne Madsen's our guest.

02:21:39.000 Long segment coming up with Wayne Madsen.

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02:24:57.000 Paul Watson has a counterpiece to Psychology Today's hit piece on me.

02:25:12.000 On a long, long, long time.

02:25:14.000 But I want Paul to also add the history of psychiatry and psychology with Hitler, the Soviets, and of course the Communist Chinese.

02:25:23.000 And I want to put in there what Kaiser mentioned about how it was psychologists and psychiatrists that ran the torture, including in the Army's report, raping the children.

02:25:34.000 So let's make sure that we show that this system works for the globalists.

02:25:40.000 I mean, it's nothing but a group of high priests that What do you think of this move to list, and that's what they do, psychology today, hit piece labels, conspiracy thinking as psychotic illness, talks about how we're potentially violent and dangerous, says right here that it's dopamine levels, that we're borderline schizophrenic.

02:26:01.000 You know, we're so insane we're hearing choo-choo trains in the background.

02:26:07.000 I can tell Madsen's by a train.

02:26:09.000 I mean, this is really a juvenile trick He says there's no world population reduction numbers.

02:26:15.000 None of that's real.

02:26:16.000 There's no Bank of the World.

02:26:17.000 There's no global banking cartel.

02:26:20.000 It's just madsen.

02:26:21.000 We are completely mad.

02:26:24.000 Well, I ran a story not long ago about the National Security Agency, and I've been writing about how people that work there have been subjected to psychological and psychiatric abuse by the medical department there as a way to basically pull their clearances if they're considered not to be working within the system.

02:26:45.000 And recently I found out that the NSA security, which is called the Q Group, And NSA Medical are working together now prescribing what they call Happy Pills.

02:26:55.000 This is Prozac and Zoloft for employees who show that they're not toeing the line.

02:27:02.000 So here we have another example of what can only be described as how the Soviet Union handled dissidents.

02:27:09.000 They had these psychushka psychiatric hospitals.

02:27:13.000 If you were against the Soviet system, they thought you were crazy and they would put you in a psychiatric hospital.

02:27:19.000 Now we see that happening here within some of our own intelligence agencies.

02:27:24.000 Well, it was, I mean, watching documentary films and reading history books about Nazi Germany, most of the tyranny from '33 to '38, before they really started the big official camps, was psychiatry, and it was merged with eugenics, and they were was psychiatry, and it was merged with eugenics, and they were the ones that would come and take your kids and raise them in government They were the ones that would come take your kid who had a problem and then euthanize them.

02:27:50.000 And I would bring this up, I mean I brought up the famous inventor of lobotomies, how he would do public lobotomies with an ice pick, and he just said that's not true, and I...

02:28:00.000 In fact, search engine startpage.com or Google or whatever for people right now on screen.

02:28:08.000 Lobotomy with an ice pick.

02:28:10.000 And you'll have mainstream news.

02:28:13.000 And I even gave this to him and he would just giggle and say I was crazy on the other end of the phone.

02:28:18.000 I mean, who are these people, Wayne Madsen? 0.97

02:28:20.000 Are they like on power trips and they love going in and having women come into them and lay down, you have mental illness, I'll help you. 1.00

02:28:29.000 It sounds just like a Svengali con artist guild.

02:28:33.000 Well, when we look at this CIA report on how they treated the detainees with prolonged diapering, extended nudity, you have to wonder what kind of perverts, and I think that's where this investigation is going.

02:28:50.000 I've written about Dick Cheney.

02:28:52.000 I've written about Scooter Libby.

02:28:53.000 When you look at what these two individuals, I won't call them gentlemen because they're not gentlemen by any stretch, but when you look at what these two individuals were involved in, Libby writing a novel about turn-of-the-century Japan in the early 20th century where there's references to bestiality and pedophilia, and we know about, you know, Dick Cheney had a predilection for some of the

02:29:17.000 escorts provided to Halliburton by Kamala Martin & Associates, which was run by the late Deborah Jean Calfrey.

02:29:24.000 I think we're getting to the actual crux of what the last administration was all about.

02:29:30.000 Well, absolutely.

02:29:32.000 Here's NPR.

02:29:33.000 We just search engine lobotomy with ice pick, and you can click on it and watch photos and videos of him ramming the ice pick into the corner of the eye, into the skull with pleasure.

02:29:45.000 And I was sending this NPR article, NPR, and he just laughed.

02:29:50.000 Man, it's funny.

02:29:51.000 I mean, it's funny that they're this psychotic guild out enjoying itself, having its way with everyone, and the New Freedom Initiative wants to drug half of the school children in America.

02:30:04.000 I mean, that came out in mainstream news, and I would bring that up and he would just laugh.

02:30:08.000 I mean, it's not funny.

02:30:11.000 And I don't think they realize their mind games aren't working with us anymore, Wayne.

02:30:16.000 No, definitely not, and I think, you know, that's why I think what we're seeing now, stuff come out of the White House talking about shutting down the Internet if there's a national emergency.

02:30:27.000 Obviously, there's no interest in having information available when you've got people like this with their agendas running the show.

02:30:39.000 Well, Wayne, let's get into some other issues here.

02:30:43.000 I digress.

02:30:46.000 What do you call it where the mainstream media will say we're setting up a world government to be run by private banks and it's going to be a planetary regime and we're going to drug your water and then we read it and then they write articles saying we're insane it doesn't exist in sometimes the same publications a month later.

02:31:06.000 I mean is that double speak, double think?

02:31:09.000 I mean what is that?

02:31:11.000 Well, I think it's a second approach to creating conflict, creating chaos, constant chaos.

02:31:18.000 When you have constant chaos, of course, people can take advantage of that situation.

02:31:22.000 And we've seen that happen time and time again.

02:31:24.000 I'm actually sitting across From the CBS News Bureau here in Washington right now, that's why you're hearing the traffic noise.

02:31:31.000 But I mean, if you talk to these journalists individually, those who are left, who haven't been laid off with this downturn in the economy and this extreme change in how news is covered in the United States, you talk to them individually, they know these things, but they'll never get it through the producers and the editors to get it on the air on the major news networks.

02:31:57.000 Yeah, all that's left now is a really seedy guild of mercenary media people who will just do whatever they're told.

02:32:07.000 And I think that's only going to accelerate the discrediting of them quicker.

02:32:12.000 Because these are such lazy hit pieces they do on the freedom movement. 0.98

02:32:17.000 I mean, don't they understand this is only confirming to everyone just how scum-filled they are? 0.97

02:32:24.000 Well, I think it gets to this whole idea of the elitism. 0.93

02:32:30.000 You've got all the major networks now controlled by big corporations, and it's this ivory tower approach.

02:32:39.000 I cover the news inside the Beltway, but the term inside the Beltway has always been used to describe this sort of incestuous relationship Politicians, journalists, and others, what they call quote-unquote movers and shakers, have in this town.

02:32:55.000 And obviously if you're reading from something that isn't part of the official script, you're always criticized and made fun of and intimidated.

02:33:05.000 Well, I'm also seeing this drumbeat against myself and other activists that were violent and were calling for violence, even though I'm calling for the opposite.

02:33:14.000 That's in psychology today.

02:33:16.000 Within hours of Poplowski doing what he did, the Southern Poverty Law Center said it was my fault.

02:33:24.000 Some of the Soros people now coming out and saying Obama is not calling for national service and I'm a dangerous liar.

02:33:31.000 Why am I, because I know this happens to you too, but I mean really it's happening bad now and I'm wondering if in your expertise you think they're building up to something.

02:33:39.000 Because in my experience, they demonize you just to demonize you and discredit you, or they demonize you in preparation for something else, and I hope that's not what it is.

02:33:47.000 False charges, my murder, whatever the case may be.

02:33:50.000 And whatever the case is, I'm ready for it, and this is the path I'm on, and it's an honor to fight these people.

02:33:55.000 But why do you think they're really coming after me right now?

02:34:00.000 Well, as I say, we've always had an element of this in the past, where journalists who didn't fall into line were criticized, and certainly Jack Anderson faced a lot of that criticism.

02:34:14.000 IF Stone, as he's known, faced that criticism, and others.

02:34:17.000 But now we're seeing with this conglomeration of the media, the corporate media, having a lot more power to demonize those who basically call them out on how they cover these stories.

02:34:30.000 And certainly we see that time and time again.

02:34:33.000 And as you say, you know, months later, for example, NBC Dayline is reporting that the vaccines, all vaccines may not be safe.

02:34:44.000 They featured this man, Dr. Wakefield, who has been criticized by his peers, who said, look, you know, these vaccines have to be looked at.

02:34:52.000 I haven't done all the research, but the research should be conducted and we should have, you know, an independent verification by professionals as to whether these vaccines are, in fact, safe.

02:35:05.000 Well, that's the thing is they're now admitting Gardasil's killing a bunch of people and that in flu vaccine trials in Europe, it's killed a bunch of people.

02:35:13.000 I got that wrong and flipped it to Texas.

02:35:15.000 They were worried in Texas, but the deaths are in Europe.

02:35:18.000 We showed those articles.

02:35:22.000 I mean, I'm just wondering where all this is going, because there seems to be a crisis in confidence, and instead of the establishment being more truthful, they're now more and more just intensifying the lying, or they're talking out of both sides of their mouths, almost like they're committing suicide politically in front of us.

02:35:41.000 Well, as I say, the poop will be in the pudding.

02:35:45.000 If the people who are suggesting that we all take the vaccine for H1N1, if they really feel that way, let's see them be the first in line when these vaccines are available and are being administered.

02:35:59.000 Let's see whether Schwarzenegger is the first one to get the vaccine in Sacramento and whether President Obama is on camera showing him getting it and his family.

02:36:10.000 But if we don't see that, obviously, we're not going to believe politicians, especially when your health, your very life may be at risk.

02:36:18.000 Well, Wayne, I don't believe anything they said.

02:36:21.000 They could take a shot of saline solution.

02:36:22.000 They've been caught doing similar stunts in the past.

02:36:24.000 I believe nothing they say.

02:36:26.000 And I think that's what the establishment hasn't quite yet figured out.

02:36:30.000 And the longer it takes for them to figure it out, the better.

02:36:32.000 Because, you know, if they get more sophisticated, they'll be harder to beat.

02:36:36.000 Just their bald-faced lying about everything is really helping us awaken everybody.

02:36:41.000 But shifting gears, I've got to toot your horn again.

02:36:43.000 That's why I really respect you, Wayne Madsen.

02:36:45.000 And by the way, you're in the upcoming film, Fall of the Republic, with Max Keiser and many others.

02:36:50.000 I remember, you know, it's like you have the knowledge.

02:36:53.000 You forget everywhere you saw it unless you go Google it and pull it up.

02:36:56.000 But I remember Cy Hirsch, you, other people, Ray McGovern, three, four, five years ago.

02:37:05.000 And then you really in the last year especially saying, look, Blackwater's running hit teams.

02:37:10.000 Delta Force is involved.

02:37:12.000 They're killing political enemies.

02:37:13.000 Then I tied that into UPI, AP, Jerusalem Post, 2003, Israel bragging, we got hit teams even in America.

02:37:21.000 So a lot of this is from the hit teams themselves.

02:37:24.000 And then Merck putting out in federal documents that they have hit teams, quote, liquidating doctors in a seek-and-destroy program.

02:37:32.000 And then Merck says, oh, that's just a joke we give to these mercenaries.

02:37:40.000 You were one of the first people to break this.

02:37:42.000 A, what was your intel on that if you can tell us?

02:37:46.000 And then B, it appears we just uncovered like the very tip of the iceberg and it's this huge archipelago or constellation of murder gangs.

02:37:57.000 And I was watching congressional hearings yesterday with all this starting to come out.

02:38:01.000 I mean, my God, it looks like it was worse than we even thought.

02:38:05.000 I'll tell you one thing that surprised me.

02:38:07.000 I never thought that Blackwater was as close to the CIA as we now know it was, that they got these sole-source contracts that, first of all, engage in covert actions around the world, that they were using foreign mercenaries to conduct targeted assassinations, and they were using U.S. retired U.S. military personnel to do the same thing.

02:38:29.000 The reason I say that is because we were told that there was a major difference of opinion between Donald Rumsfeld when he was Secretary of Defense and the person in charge of the Counterterrorism Center at CIA, Cope for Black, who, by the way, then went after he attended the State Department.

02:38:47.000 He went to work for Blackwater's intelligence gathering arm.

02:38:51.000 for total information systems.

02:38:54.000 Now we see with Buzzy Cronegard, the Executive Director at the CIA, leaves the CIA and winds up on the advisory board for Blackwater.

02:39:03.000 His brother, Cookie Cronegard, is the Inspector General of the State Department, basically covering up All the Blackwater contracts in the Malpies in that state. 1.00

02:39:14.000 We know that other CIA officials went to work for Blackwater.

02:39:18.000 I guess the biggest surprise was the initial reports were that there was this schism between the Pentagon and the CIA, but now we know that that was probably just a mere turf battle.

02:39:29.000 It had nothing to do with the use of Blackwater whatsoever.

02:39:32.000 So, so how much murdering is going on?

02:39:35.000 Because they admit it was Cheney's enemies, not just, quote, Al-Cieda.

02:39:40.000 I mean, who are they killing?

02:39:43.000 Well, when I first heard about George Tenet's attack matrix, worldwide attack matrix, I was looking and I was told by sources close to the CIA that they said, look, it's not just Iraq and Yemen and Afghanistan are targeting people.

02:40:00.000 They told me about politicians in Lebanon being targeted, people with various human rights movements and successionist movements from Indonesia to Columbia also being targeted.

02:40:14.000 So this, in fact, was what Tenet told all the members of the Cabinet and President Bush's senior advisors at Camp David just a few days after 9-11.

02:40:25.000 It was, in fact, a worldwide attack matrix.

02:40:27.000 And when you've got a sociopath like Dick Cheney sitting there basically calling the shots, it was get-even time, obviously, for him and his closest advisors.

02:40:39.000 Let me ask you this.

02:40:40.000 From the MO we've got, from when Rumsfeld brought in Cheney during Ford, as you know, that it's really Rumsfeld is the one, even through the last administration, that was really the real president.

02:40:52.000 People say it was Cheney But in that weird relationship, do you agree that Rumsfeld was actually above him?

02:41:01.000 Well, this was a mentoring type relationship that they had.

02:41:05.000 These two individuals are like, you know, frick and frack when it comes to modern American politics.

02:41:13.000 And certainly, you know, it was Cheney that was very upset when Bush, I guess, listened to his daddy and said, look, it's time to get rid of Rumsfeld.

02:41:22.000 And Cheney was very much opposed to that as much as he was against Bush's decision, not to pardon Scooter Libby.

02:41:31.000 I think we see what the network was that committed these war crimes. 0.92

02:41:36.000 And that's why Cheney now...

02:41:37.000 But is Rumsfeld at the top of the Cheney pyramid, or is Cheney there?

02:41:41.000 I think, you know, you'd have to separate these two guys with a crowbar.

02:41:47.000 I think basically they're almost like brothers in arms.

02:41:52.000 Certainly Rumsfeld in the Ford administration was the Chief of Staff, went on to become the Secretary of Defense, and then of course Cheney moved up to become Chief of Staff for Ford.

02:42:04.000 But their whole purpose In fact, they expanded it.

02:42:08.000 They wrote the current COG that the National Security Council is using for the NORTHCOM takeover.

02:42:12.000 And now the Pentagon, as you know, Wayne, wants 400,000 troops.

02:42:15.000 A year ago it was 20,000.

02:42:17.000 from uh...

02:42:18.000 the white house and said they expanded it they wrote the current co_d_ that the national security council is using for the north com takeover and now the pentagon as you know lane wants four hundred thousand troops a year ago was twenty thousand now it's four hundred thousand on the streets of america that's right that's right And certainly we know that they were the ones behind the CIA, you know, getting rid of Bill Colby as CIA director.

02:42:18.000 uh...

02:42:44.000 Bill Colby was trying to come clean on a lot of these issues, including assassinations, Allende in Chile, and other things that came out.

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02:47:30.000 In closing, Wayne Madsen. 0.97

02:47:32.000 Wayne, You were getting into Blackwater and the sex slave children. 1.00

02:47:37.000 We talked about that years ago with Halliburton and DynCorp.

02:47:40.000 Congressional hearings.

02:47:41.000 Chicago Tribune.

02:47:43.000 Psychology Today makes jokes about it.

02:47:46.000 I mean, we're not schizophrenic.

02:47:47.000 It's in congressional hearings about this now.

02:47:50.000 You've got some more intel on that with them tied into Thailand.

02:47:54.000 Well, just in the last couple days, under a new Justice Department program called Twisted Traveler, they busted, for the first time under this program, three Americans in Cambodia for engaging in sex with kids there.

02:48:08.000 The problem is that the State Department was said to have been involved with this investigation through the Diplomatic Security Service.

02:48:16.000 I haven't checked this out.

02:48:17.000 I mean, the U.S. 0.92

02:48:19.000 embassies in Southeast Asia are rife with pedophiles. 0.94

02:48:22.000 They're diplomats. 0.99

02:48:24.000 I've actually discovered that they provide, in some cases, child prostitutes for visiting U.S. 0.98

02:48:31.000 VIPs, including members of Congress.

02:48:34.000 I've been trying to get a list of all the congressional delegations that have been down there since the 1990s, specifically 96 to the present time.

02:48:45.000 When these guys get caught, Instead of prosecuting them, sending them back to the United States, they simply transfer them to another embassy in Southeast Asia where they're allowed to continue these decadent practices.

02:48:58.000 So it's fine the Justice Department is looking at it.

02:49:02.000 They're getting the low-hanging fruit here, though they're not going after the diplomats, the CIA stations that are involved in this, especially for blackmail purposes, everything from local businessmen Well, Wayne, in closing, every time I'm researching globalism, I'm not even looking for it, and you run into pedophiles.

02:49:27.000 From your research, is it a pedophile guild at all levels of government in key man positions that are really running things?

02:49:36.000 Well, I have to say that in the State Department, it's one of the worst case scenarios for this type of thing.

02:49:44.000 The State, as I say, the diplomatic corps in Southeast Asia, including ambassadors, either are involved with this or give a wink and a nod to it.

02:49:53.000 Consular officials do the same thing.

02:49:56.000 We're talking about an underground cult that basically looks out for one another.

02:50:03.000 Well, that's what we find even in state investigations. 0.99

02:50:05.000 I mean, it's just, we kick open the doors and it's always satanic pedophiles and weirdos and scum and it just... God help us with these people! 1.00

02:50:14.000 That's the New World Order. 0.98

02:50:15.000 Wayne, when you can get on a landline in the next few days, I want you to be back on, on this subject specifically.

02:50:21.000 WayneMadsonReport.com, WayneMadsonReport.com or TheWayneMadsonReport.com.

02:50:26.000 Thank you so much for spending time with us.

02:50:28.000 Good to be with you, Alex.

02:50:29.000 All right, there he goes.

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Alex Jones Show - September 02, 2009

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