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00:04:06.000 Okay, going back to Ray McGovern.

00:04:07.000 Ray, you left off with the CIA assessment 2006, and then now we fast forward to they've taken some troops out of Iraq, replaced them with contractors, put 20,000 to 30,000 more troops and contractors Well, We caught them.

00:04:28.000 We caught them.

00:04:29.000 It's incredible.

00:04:30.000 And then a few days later, oh, did we catch them?

00:04:33.000 Well, they made the announcement after they knew we knew.

00:04:35.000 So break down what's really happening today.

00:04:39.000 Yeah.

00:04:41.000 We caught them several months ago, Alex, and they announced the existence of this new enrichment plant.

00:04:53.000 Okay. Now

00:05:23.000 we've discovered a new enrichment facility.

00:05:25.000 Well, we know about that enrichment facility for months, and now the Iranians are claiming that they're well within their rights under the treaties governing this kind of activity to announce the establishment of this thing, because it's several, several months more before it gets ready to enrich anything. 0.73

00:05:44.000 So the hype is there, and the bottom line, people just need to realize that Iran is a Iran is years and years away from a nuclear weapon.

00:05:58.000 Okay, I'll repeat that one more time.

00:06:00.000 Years away from a nuclear weapon.

00:06:02.000 Don't believe the hype.

00:06:03.000 Don't believe what the Israelis are saying. 0.99

00:06:05.000 These are technical questions, okay?

00:06:07.000 Now when I did the President's daily brief, I didn't write all the briefs, obviously.

00:06:12.000 I know who the good analysts were, the honest technical people, and it was a privilege to put their stuff in readable form and give it to the President.

00:06:24.000 Well, now, I still know those folks.

00:06:26.000 And I'm not getting this from McGovern's head.

00:06:28.000 I'm getting it from people like Greg Keelman, who ran the State Department, the INR, the research there, and the intelligence outfit of the State Department, and was right.

00:06:39.000 His people were right before the Iraq estimate there in 2002.

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00:06:54.000 Well, Ray, boil it down for us, then.

00:06:57.000 What does Iran really have? 0.95

00:06:59.000 What are they really doing?

00:07:00.000 And, A, why can Israel have weapons?

00:07:03.000 Why can Pakistan have weapons? 1.00

00:07:04.000 Why is that okay?

00:07:05.000 But Iran's nowhere near it, and we're hearing, we gotta put sanctions on them. 0.98

00:07:10.000 We gotta attack them. 1.00

00:07:12.000 They could kill us any minute. 0.99

00:07:14.000 Well, Alex, there will be no news to you that there is something in this country that I call the Likud lobby.

00:07:23.000 Could be the hard right faction of the Israeli government, Israeli parties, and they have an ordinate influence in this country.

00:07:32.000 And if you were to ask why it is that Congress is preparing, actually preparing as we speak, to pass a law that would actually be an act of war to interdict the supply of gasoline and such products to Iran.

00:07:48.000 Why are they doing that?

00:07:49.000 Well, it's because a lot of their money And a lot of their votes come from what I call the Likud lobby.

00:07:57.000 But why does Israel want to attack Iran?

00:08:00.000 Well, you know, if you look at the Israelis and their frame of mind, and I think it's a terribly myopic frame of mind, I care about what happens to Israel, and I think it's exactly the wrong policy. 1.00

00:08:14.000 They think that if they can zap the Iranian nuclear facility, as they did, We're good to go! 1.00

00:08:27.000 Iranians back, oh, five, ten years perhaps, if they're allowed to do that. 1.00

00:08:32.000 Now that's very myopic because the Iranians, unlike the Iraqis in those days, the Iranians can retaliate, they can close the straits, they can decimate our troops in Iraq, and they can hit Israeli cities even now. Not with a nuclear weapon, but with lots of missiles, okay? 1.00

00:08:51.000 So it would be bedlam if this happened.

00:08:53.000 And yet the Israelis are trying to get ROK to let them do it. 0.96

00:08:58.000 This is lunacy.

00:09:00.000 But they have this kind of frame of mind.

00:09:03.000 Netanyahu, their prime minister in particular, that this must not be let happen and that they're going to delay it as long as they can.

00:09:10.000 If it takes an arm strike, they'll do it. 0.90

00:09:13.000 Now, the only thing that is preventing them from doing it at this point, in my estimation, is this.

00:09:20.000 Admiral Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who is responsible for our troops and our security, has gone over to Israel this time last year and said, Don't even think about it, okay?

00:09:33.000 You fly your planes over our airspace in Iraq, we're going to shoot them down, okay? 1.00

00:09:39.000 So don't even think about this, and don't think you can perpetrate the kind of incident like the Liberty incident back in June of 68, because we remember that.

00:09:49.000 I'm a naval officer, and that's just not going to happen again.

00:09:53.000 Now, that was pretty gutsy, and that put the kibosh on what the Israelis were doing. 1.00

00:10:02.000 Let me go back.

00:10:04.000 We had the Admiral you just talked about, and then it leaked.

00:10:11.000 It also leaked that, and a New Yorker covered it, MSNBC covered it, Cy Hirsch talked about it.

00:10:20.000 We'd all heard about how these radio calls were coming in.

00:10:24.000 Iranian patrol boats attack, blow up the destroyers near the Strait of Hormuz.

00:10:28.000 They're in the Gulf.

00:10:29.000 And then it came out later that Cheney was discussing plans to paint up U.S. ships like Iranian patrol boats and have them attack our ships.

00:10:38.000 Now, this came out a year after you on this show and other shows said, what I'm hearing from intelligence sources is, they may attack our ships and blame it on Iran.

00:10:53.000 Were you being given specifics?

00:10:55.000 Because it's one thing to get this from Sy Hersh a year after it happened, Well, Alex, I wish I could brag about an inside source on this particular thing.

00:11:11.000 I cannot.

00:11:12.000 I was using what we in Army Intelligence used to call the swag factor.

00:11:17.000 You know what that is?

00:11:19.000 That's a scientific wild ass guess.

00:11:21.000 So it's thin slicing or it's dead reckoning. 0.61

00:11:26.000 Yeah, it's, you know,

00:11:29.000 Yes. I

00:12:00.000 you can imagine my reaction at that while our that was a quick guess but government but it was just at that point again okay we had uh...

00:12:08.000 bear on the former c_i_a_ fellow for folks that don't know up there yeah and and and he said two years ago and i don't trust him as much as i trust you on this promise reasons he said worried about the saudis staging a false flag to blame it on iran And then now, we see more and more similar things coming out along those lines.

00:12:34.000 What's your take on that?

00:12:35.000 Well, Bob knows the area a lot better than I do, and I have great confidence in his judgment.

00:12:42.000 You know, the Saudis are Sunni, the Iranians are Shia.

00:12:47.000 It may seem like lunacy to us, but it matters a great deal in that area, and for the Iranians to become the preponderant power in that area, well, that's Well, the Saudis don't like that at all. 0.61

00:12:58.000 Whether they would resort to this kind of provocation or not, I don't know, but Bob would be in a much better position to speculate on that.

00:13:07.000 Well, I mean, what is it like for you, knowing the region, studying it, when they get up on the news and say Iran is backing al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, when it's the opposite group, Xi'an, Shunni, archenemies, they fight more than they do with Christians or Jews, really.

00:13:24.000 If you look at the statistics that I've looked at, I mean, that's like saying the Dallas Cowboys are the New York Giants.

00:13:31.000 I mean, it's clearly two different groups.

00:13:34.000 And then the famous case two and a half years ago with the president of Afghanistan and Bush says, yes, Iran is funding Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

00:13:45.000 Mohammed Karzai says, excuse me your excellency, respectfully, but Iran's helping us.

00:13:50.000 Their enemy is Al-Qaeda.

00:13:52.000 They're back on the news, as you know, saying that Iran is Al-Qaeda, when the last White House admitted they were using Al-Qaeda-based groups to stage terror attacks inside Iran.

00:14:03.000 Yeah. Well, in answer to your question, Alex, I take this blood pressure medicine now, so when I listen to this kind of stuff.

00:14:11.000 But all kidding aside, You know, when Bush was allowed to mischaracterize, maybe a nice way of saying things, all these very important developments, and the mainstream press, people like Charlie Gibson, would just kind of say, oh, I refer specifically to Bush's famous exit interview where Charlie Gibson finally said, well, Mr. President, why did you really think you had to attack Iraq?

00:14:39.000 And he's, oh, simple.

00:14:42.000 I mean, wouldn't let the U.N. inspectors in.

00:14:44.000 And Charlie Gibson said, oh, okay.

00:14:46.000 He goes on to the next question, you know.

00:14:49.000 But he was letting the inspectors in.

00:14:51.000 They were combing through his palaces.

00:14:54.000 They were interviewing his scientists one-on-one.

00:14:57.000 It was George Bush that threw the U.N. inspectors out two days before, shock and awe.

00:15:02.000 And Charlie Gibson let's take it away with that.

00:15:04.000 Let's get back to Iran. 0.98

00:15:06.000 Here's the, you know, I told you this before.

00:15:07.000 But the estimate here, it actually appeared in November of 07. They started working on it in 06. And so November 07, this big shock, namely, that the NIE judges, and I used to chair these things, so I know what kind of work goes into this, high confidence that Tehran has halted a covert nuclear weapons program in the fall of 2003.

00:15:30.000 What does the president say the following March?

00:15:32.000 He says, quote, Iran has declared that it wants to And now they're hyping that again!

00:15:59.000 I was watching CNN this morning, and they cut to some female... 1.00

00:16:34.000 Here's the big issue.

00:16:35.000 Do you think they're going to hit them, or will it be sanctions first, or will they false flag, or where is this going?

00:16:42.000 Well, it depends on how staunchly the only reputable institution in our government stands up to this.

00:16:51.000 I have a lot of admiration for Admiral Mullen.

00:16:55.000 I think that, you know, he's inclined and, you know, Admiral Fallon, you remember Fallon quit when he was CENTCOM commander, because he had said, we're not going to do Iran on my watch.

00:17:12.000 And it took several months, but he was there.

00:17:15.000 Because he knows what'll happen.

00:17:16.000 We should talk about what'll happen, the three different scenarios if Iran gets hit.

00:17:20.000 That's exactly right.

00:17:21.000 You know, and one of them, you know, one of them says, well, Iran has the capability of closing the Straits of Hormuz.

00:17:28.000 Now, okay, that's where, like, two-thirds of the oil that comes out of the oil fields We're

00:18:00.000 good to go.

00:18:04.000 Afghanistan and some of them left Iraq.

00:18:07.000 So, you know, it all has a degree of unreality.

00:18:10.000 And when I see Senator Kit Bond of Missouri and John Kyle talking about, we need regime change, we need regime change in Iran because there's such a threat to Israel. 0.72

00:18:22.000 Well, you know, that just reminds me of the old saw about, you know, when they offered to make Israel the 51st state of the United States, Israel refused.

00:18:32.000 You know why, Alex?

00:18:33.000 No, why?

00:18:35.000 Because then they'd only have two senators. 0.57

00:18:39.000 Oh man, you know, this is just insane.

00:18:44.000 So what's the intel you're getting?

00:18:46.000 Are they planning to hit Iran?

00:18:48.000 Or are they just going to have sanctions?

00:18:50.000 Where is this going?

00:18:51.000 I think Netanyahu is chafing at the bit.

00:18:55.000 And I think Obama is under great pressure from the Likud lobby and from those still in the White House who have great difficulty distinguishing between what they perceive to be the strategic interests of Israel Well, on the one hand, and those of the United States on the other, I hope, and that's what it is, a hope, it's just a little bit more than, a little less than an expectation that Obama will stand up to this.

00:19:23.000 This would be a ruinous war.

00:19:25.000 This would be worse than the way he contemplates doing in Afghanistan. 0.87

00:19:29.000 This would be bedlam.

00:19:30.000 And I think that as long as he listens to people like Mullen, that he'll be restrained.

00:19:37.000 Final segment with Ray McGovern straight ahead.

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00:19:45.000 I just wish we could stop having all these wars.

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00:19:53.000 We've really done this country wrong, folks.

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00:23:01.000 I'm going to chase the sky forever With a woman and the sun Ray McGovern is our guest.

00:23:25.000 Final segment.

00:23:27.000 Well, what's going on is the rest of the world is looking at us and kind of shaking its head.

00:23:38.000 The Russians and the Chinese and the Indians are the big players, of course, as they watch what we're trying to do in Afghanistan.

00:23:45.000 You know, they're sort of shrugging their shoulders and saying, well, be our guest.

00:23:51.000 You know, we all tried that in Afghanistan.

00:23:54.000 We all fail, going back to, you know, going back to Iliad of the Great, not to mention Genghis Khan and the Persians and the Indians and the British and the Russians. 0.93

00:24:05.000 Go ahead, you know, waste your military.

00:24:09.000 And with respect to Iran, you know, the Russians used to care a great deal about what happened on their soft southern underbelly.

00:24:19.000 But they seem almost cavalier with respect to Iranian plans.

00:24:23.000 And I think part of that has to do with the fact that they don't have Israel as their, quote, ally, end quote.

00:24:32.000 Now, what are these quotes?

00:24:33.000 Well, because 99% of the American people believe that Israel is an ally of the United States.

00:24:40.000 That's wrong.

00:24:41.000 An alliance requires a treaty.

00:24:43.000 There is no mutual defense treaty between the United States and Israel.

00:24:48.000 And the reason there is none is because treaties require internationally recognized boundaries.

00:24:54.000 And Israel is in possession for over 60 years now. 0.93

00:24:59.000 No, 60 years from 67 on until now, whatever the math is, of the occupied territories, West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip.

00:25:09.000 And Israel, the last thing it wants is to have any international body draw the borders back to where they used to be.

00:25:17.000 So there is no alliance.

00:25:19.000 And yet we proceed.

00:25:21.000 The media characterizes our relationship with Israel as an alliance.

00:25:26.000 Our policy makers treat it that way. 0.98

00:25:28.000 But Russia, Russia sits back and laughs and says, well, if they do something really idiotic, if they close the Straits of Hormuz, guess who benefits? 0.96

00:25:44.000 You know, we'll be able to have a villa, we'll have a dacha for each little worker in Russia. 0.82

00:25:51.000 Is that why Russia met with Netanyahu secretly a month ago and has now said they support sanctions against Iran?

00:25:57.000 Well, you know, Russia plays a very clever game. 0.93

00:26:00.000 You know, they express concern about this and then they go ahead.

00:26:04.000 Now, with Netanyahu, they are restraining influence, although they don't care as much as we do.

00:26:12.000 When Netanyahu goes up there, what you expect him to get is not approval for a strike on Iran, but some sort of reassurance that, for example, the Russians won't sell sophisticated missiles to defend the Iranian sites there, to the enrichment site. 0.56

00:26:32.000 So, you know, last year, Ehud Olmert went to Moscow, and he was summoned there.

00:26:41.000 And the Russians warned him in similarly definitive terms, Right. Gotta cut you off.

00:27:01.000 We're almost out of time.

00:27:02.000 in the last minute, do you think it's sanctions or an attack?

00:27:05.000 I mean, if you had to make a dead reckoning again, do you think they're going to hit Iran in the next year or two? 0.97

00:27:09.000 Gosh.

00:27:12.000 I don't know, Alex.

00:27:13.000 It will depend on how this thing plays out.

00:27:15.000 There will be sanctions first, but there's great pressure for an attack, and I would not rule out the likelihood that Israel would be given a nod by somebody in the White House and go ahead and do it and force our hand. 0.96

00:27:30.000 And then Iran will go absolutely wild. 0.98

00:27:33.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:33.000 It'll be bedlam.

00:27:34.000 We'll suffer great attrition for our own troops in the area.

00:27:38.000 Ray McGovern, thank you for your time.

00:27:40.000 You're most welcome.

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00:29:18.000 Network. We are back live.

00:29:31.000 Ladies and gentlemen, already in the fourth and final hour of this worldwide broadcast, Wednesday the 30th day of September 2009.

00:29:41.000 Wanted to give you Ray McGovern's perspective on the Iran situation.

00:29:47.000 We just got that from him.

00:29:50.000 Going to be getting into how we are on the enemy's list, some new developments from Hardin, Montana as well.

00:29:58.000 With a fellow that's been doing some in-depth research there that is coming up in the next segment.

00:30:07.000 We've got several Hardin clips.

00:30:09.000 Which one do we have first?

00:30:10.000 I want to play a few of these.

00:30:13.000 And we're going to play a few of these news reports of what's happening in Hardin and then we'll be right back.

00:30:17.000 Stay with us after this quick break.

00:30:19.000 Some of the history of it.

00:30:20.000 The would-be FEMA camp with weird paramilitary forces patrolling around at it.

00:30:25.000 And then we will continue.

00:30:29.000 Here we go.

00:30:33.000 This could be Gitmo West.

00:30:36.000 Right now, it's a prison with no prisoners in tiny, hardened Montana.

00:30:40.000 City officials want to fill it with detainees from Guantanamo Bay.

00:30:44.000 Terrorists, like self-proclaimed 9-11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

00:30:48.000 It would bring jobs.

00:30:50.000 Believe it or not, it would even bring hope and opportunity.

00:30:53.000 This is the poorest county in Montana, and the $27 million prison has turned into a white elephant.

00:31:00.000 But not everyone wants detainees here.

00:31:02.000 I would move out of Hardin.

00:31:04.000 My son is in the military.

00:31:06.000 He came back from Afghanistan.

00:31:07.000 He says the people have no respect.

00:31:10.000 For any human life, even their own.

00:31:13.000 They are some of the most dangerous people in the world.

00:31:16.000 And some in the community worry that if they were here in this medium security prison, they would attract other radicals to the area, or even worse, escape.

00:31:24.000 The person that wants to make it an issue, we'd be happy to lock them up and see how long it takes them to come out.

00:31:29.000 And then, if they can, I'll buy them coffee at the coffee shop.

00:31:33.000 Not a problem.

00:31:34.000 There are plenty of cameras and wiring for more and row upon row of razor wire.

00:31:40.000 They're even ready for trouble here.

00:31:41.000 They've got gas masks and riot helmets, shields, batons.

00:31:45.000 They even have guns.

00:31:48.000 There's also open land around the prison that would make a getaway difficult.

00:31:52.000 Because there are no prisoners, Glenn and Ray Perkins got laid off after moving to Hardin to take guard jobs.

00:31:59.000 They've worked at maximum security prisons in Texas.

00:32:02.000 Everything in this one is state of the art.

00:32:05.000 It's the most secure place I've ever worked in.

00:32:09.000 Even more secure than those maximum security facilities?

00:32:12.000 Absolutely, yeah.

00:32:13.000 But they oppose moving detainees here, even though it might mean getting their jobs back.

00:32:18.000 Bottom line, I just want the facility to open, but no, I don't really want Kimbo in my backyard. 1.00

00:32:23.000 Montana's senators agree.

00:32:26.000 I don't think they know what they're asking for when they're asking for these, to take these prisoners on.

00:32:31.000 But President Obama wants to close Guantanamo in January, and if that happens, the detainees will have to go somewhere.

00:32:39.000 Coming into a community that really wants them is going to be a lot easier than going into one that doesn't.

00:32:46.000 And this may be the only city in the country that's ready, willing, and able to take them.

00:32:52.000 Gene Meserve, CNN, Hardin, Montana.

00:32:54.000 From Nazareth, they came with a ragtag band to bring a revolution. 1.00

00:33:10.000 Some would make them change.

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00:37:19.000 Alright, Michael Hollingsworth has done a really good journalistic job.

00:37:30.000 We have a story posted up at Infowars.com.

00:37:33.000 Hardin, Montana under siege is the headline.

00:37:37.000 What we know is this American police force is a foreign mercenary company.

00:37:43.000 I've got local newscasts with legislators at the state house saying, yeah, they won't say who they are, where the money came from.

00:37:52.000 They've done weird court battles to overturn Montana law to get the $27 million facility.

00:37:57.000 They announced they're going to bring in foreign troops to train there.

00:38:00.000 I mean, we've got so Scores!

00:38:02.000 I know it's more than 15 different newscasts we've posted.

00:38:06.000 CNN, Billings News, local news, saying everything that's basically in Michael Hollingsworth's article.

00:38:12.000 I did read in the Billings Gazette and other newspapers in California, not just Montana, that this Billings Gazette writer has gone to work for them all of a sudden.

00:38:25.000 Lots of bizarre stuff going on there.

00:38:27.000 You've got this weird foreigner who runs it all. 1.00

00:38:30.000 Going around they've got foreign commanders who are on the news and they say it's all secret We're not telling you but then we have earlier news till the people said no from April where they said it was going to be Guantanamo West we have CNN and local news but as soon as the public said first they made the public pay for this with a bomb proposal and Then it sat there empty for the last year and a half.

00:38:54.000 It's a giant facility This American police force put their decals on SUVs saying they were the local hardened police force.

00:39:02.000 This is all confirmed.

00:39:05.000 But Michael Hollingsworth has been interviewing the locals, talking to them.

00:39:09.000 He knows who all of them are.

00:39:11.000 We're going to be reporting with him in the next few days here on air.

00:39:15.000 I will let you know that by Friday, at least, we're going to have reporters on the ground there.

00:39:20.000 Imagine who may be there.

00:39:22.000 I'm just going to leave that open for imagination.

00:39:25.000 Oh, I'm sure I've already hinted enough.

00:39:29.000 I'm going to be there tomorrow, folks.

00:39:31.000 I always tell the enemy when I'm coming.

00:39:33.000 So the point is, is that I like to give my heads up going there to do this, because then they'll overreact and show who they really are, too.

00:39:41.000 So the point is, I want them to know I'm coming.

00:39:46.000 Anyways, I'm not going to let people know exactly what, but tune in tomorrow.

00:39:50.000 Let's go to Michael Hollingsworth.

00:39:52.000 Michael, tell us briefly about yourself, and then in a snapshot, what's really going on there.

00:39:58.000 Thank you very much, Alec.

00:39:59.000 I wanted to open by saying it's both an honor and a privilege to be with you today.

00:40:02.000 Well, it's nice to talk to you.

00:40:04.000 I represent a patriotically based website called Freedom Video USA that represents a vast number of American patriots who are all military veterans, law enforcement veterans, concerned citizens, people that have not been blinded by the current presidential election.

00:40:16.000 administration smoke and mirrors.

00:40:19.000 We were able to see right through it and we absolutely have a 100% policy for dispelling all of the bovine fertilizer that's being spread from corner to corner in this country.

00:40:28.000 I got some emails from some very good friends of mine who are just as dedicated to truth as I am and said, hey, man, this is up in your neck of the woods.

00:40:35.000 What's going on up there?

00:40:36.000 And I looked into it.

00:40:38.000 I was like, APF.

00:40:38.000 I'm like, what does that even mean?

00:40:40.000 I said, police forces are hired by the local jurisdictions that they work for.

00:40:45.000 There's no such thing as a national police force.

00:40:47.000 But a little bit of background on me.

00:40:49.000 I'm eight years in service in two branches of the U.S.

00:40:52.000 military. I've worked in the private sector a little bit, worked for a small-time government contractor, done a lot of civil service work.

00:40:57.000 All of the men in my family are veterans, have been American patriots.

00:41:01.000 And that's what we classify as our number one line of employment as American patriot preserver.

00:41:05.000 The representative republic in which we Good, so you're up there, you live nearby, you went and checked it out.

00:41:10.000 Give us your take on it.

00:41:12.000 Well, the bottom line started, I started off with an hour and a half long conversation with a lady by the name of Becky Shea, who is a almost 20 year reporter with the Billings Gazette.

00:41:21.000 And she was the one who broke the story initially, so I contacted her.

00:41:25.000 She is now currently the public affairs liaison for American Police Force.

00:41:30.000 And I spoke with her, had a very interesting conversation where it felt like she was trying to sell me something.

00:41:35.000 And I said, you know, how did this happen?

00:41:38.000 broke this story to being, you know, the mouthpiece of the beast here kind of thing.

00:41:42.000 And I said, all of the people, all the things I'm reading, all the feedback I'm getting from the people of heart and say that they're not interested in having, hell, they weren't even notified.

00:41:49.000 These people just came out of nowhere.

00:41:50.000 And she says, well, you know, I went from driving a 99 Dodge Intrepid with a broken tie rod and bad front brakes to a black Mercedes SUV with a fuel card that I don't have to pay for and a substantial increase in salary.

00:42:02.000 So I said, so essentially you sold your soul.

00:42:05.000 And that didn't go over real well.

00:42:07.000 I mean, she's quoted in other newspapers making similar statements.

00:42:12.000 It seems like she's so starstruck by the money, she's even wanting to talk to us.

00:42:17.000 And then meanwhile, you've got guys with foreign accents going, we will tell you nothing. 0.99

00:42:21.000 We are bringing in foreign forces.

00:42:23.000 I mean, this is, I mean, in these newscasts, it's like they're trying to freak everybody out.

00:42:28.000 And it's just classic intelligence operation.

00:42:32.000 They admit they're looking at it for the Guantanamo Bay.

00:42:35.000 They have another former Supermax, and I need to print that off before we leave, because I saw it in the news and I haven't Googled it yet, but there's another Supermax in Montana, this is a Supermax, where they quote have animal rights activists and U.S. terrorists, and I saw civil rights suits filed because they don't let them see their families even once a month for visitation.

00:42:54.000 So clearly Montana's the place.

00:42:56.000 Clearly this is being looked at No sir, you're 100% correct.

00:43:24.000 I spoke with Al Peterson, the executive director of Twin Rivers Authority yesterday very briefly.

00:43:30.000 I got him on the phone and I asked him to confirm or deny these rumors.

00:43:33.000 And I said, you know, this is a facility that was denied operational status because it was not built in specification to Montana code.

00:43:40.000 In order to house prisoners legally in the state of Montana, you have to have X amount of square feet per prisoner in order for it to be considered humane incarceration.

00:43:48.000 This facility did not meet those standards.

00:43:51.000 My question to him was, is it that the director of the state of the city of Hardin could build such a facility with such a high price tag on it and not know from the blueprint stage that it wasn't going to be up to specs.

00:44:03.000 So this is all really, like you're saying, red flags that started popping up to us going, "Okay, was this facility built specifically with the intention?

00:44:09.000 Is this how far back this plan goes?" Is that they already were building these facilities because they knew there was no way their estate was ever going to allow to house them.

00:44:16.000 So yesterday, I spoke with the Governor Brian Schweitzer's office who assures me that absolutely nothing illegal or unconstitutional is being allowed to happen.

00:44:23.000 I rebutted with, then why are these people showing up and committing the felony of impersonating a peace officer by having hardened police department written on their vehicles?

00:44:30.000 Well, sir, that's a private agency dealing with a private town, and that's not under the governor's authority, and it's really not something that we're at liberty to discuss, and we're not at liberty to discuss hypothetical situations.

00:44:40.000 I said, sir, hypothetical situations, we have video of it.

00:44:45.000 Well, that was the thing.

00:44:48.000 The California paper said, the San Jose Mercury News said, Alex Jones says they've got police on the side of their cars.

00:44:59.000 No, that's what the local news is saying.

00:45:02.000 It's fact.

00:45:03.000 We've got pictures, we've got video.

00:45:05.000 There's interviews with citizens of the city of Hardin that are looking at these vehicles going, who the heck are these people?

00:45:10.000 We did not hire these people.

00:45:11.000 We have no idea who they are.

00:45:13.000 Let me ask you this since you live nearby because I've been trying to study this the last three days, last two days.

00:45:19.000 Am I correct in saying that they had a bond issuance to build a prison to give people jobs then they did a bait-and-switch and said it's a FEMA camp and an international Merck training center?

00:45:32.000 Correct. The bond issue that basically what happened the bond issue has been in court tied up in Who are you planning on training, and what are you planning on training them to do?

00:45:48.000 And she says, well, you know, that's really not something I have the liberty to discuss, but it's going to be something to the nature of police-slash-detention officer-type training.

00:45:55.000 And I said, man, what's wrong with the Montana Law Enforcement Academy's Peace Officer Standards and Training in our state-accredited academy?

00:46:02.000 You can't function in the state of Montana.

00:46:04.000 I don't know how it runs in other places, but in the state of Montana, you cannot be a sworn peace officer unless you have And the counties and cities are chartered under the state.

00:46:17.000 That's their only authorities to the legislature.

00:46:20.000 Correct. That is precisely correct.

00:46:22.000 So basically I said, you know, I called the sheriff's office and the gentleman that answered the phone was very abrupt with me and said that I'm not going to speak to you.

00:46:28.000 If you want to know anything, call the city of Hardin.

00:46:30.000 So I called the city of Hardin.

00:46:31.000 They played the, you know, Jimmy Code, Go Tell Bobby, Go Tell Mary game with me and pushed me off to 30 different people.

00:46:37.000 And any time that happens, that's basically in the seven tenets of special operations, you have one of them called UW or unconventional warfare.

00:46:44.000 And essentially what happens with unconventional warfare is the disinformation campaign, the psychological operations, where you will go in and set, you know, light the fuse, if you will, creating the need and getting people to see things from your perspective so that when you come in and offer your services that you had planned all along, that these people are going to, you know, to a screaming thunderous applause, they're going to welcome you and So you set the groundswork of problem, reaction, solution?

00:47:09.000 Precisely. Now, the other thing that's very critical that everybody in the United States and the world needs to know is that Hardin, Montana was not the only city that they planned on doing this in, and that was something that came straight out of Miche.

00:47:19.000 Oh, that's key.

00:47:20.000 I asked her, I said, now, so basically what you guys did is you targeted Hardin, Montana, because you realized that its financial infrastructure was collapsing and the city was about to implode and they had no money and they've been taking handouts from the state for X number of years.

00:47:32.000 And she goes, well, I don't know that targeted was a good word.

00:47:34.000 But she says, I think it was more that we did a complex financial evaluations of all of the locations that we were planning.

00:47:41.000 And it's the poorest county.

00:47:43.000 They're sold this jail will save you, then they bait and switch it and turn it into a command center for American police force to spill out as society implodes.

00:47:53.000 The mercs are here.

00:47:55.000 Precisely. Now you'll notice very carefully if you go to their website you will see an emblazoned logo on their berets on the side of their vehicles as a two-headed eagle.

00:48:02.000 that is the Serbian royal family crest.

00:48:06.000 basically, this Michael Hilton guy refers to himself as Captain Michael Hilton.

00:48:10.000 He stands about 5'1", maybe 150 pounds soaking wet.

00:48:15.000 This gentleman has got a very not-so-personal attitude about it.

00:48:20.000 And I asked Ms.

00:48:20.000 Shea in our conversation, I said, don't you think it's rather deceptive to play all the...

00:48:24.000 I'm not going to tell you where our funding comes from.

00:48:26.000 I'm not going to tell you who our parent company is.

00:48:27.000 I said, you know, all this cloak and dagger and smoke and mirrors.

00:48:30.000 I said, how do you expect the people of Hardin to trust you?

00:48:32.000 And she says, well, they really don't have to.

00:48:34.000 Because it's basically already cut and dried with their city council. 0.91

00:48:37.000 Incredibly arrogant.

00:48:38.000 Yeah, they went and bought the council. 0.92

00:48:40.000 Stay there.

00:48:40.000 Final segment.

00:48:41.000 We've got another interview coming up, but I'm very impressed with your analysis.

00:48:45.000 Come back with us on the other side, and I definitely want to hook up with you in Montana.

00:48:50.000 And we're going to be getting into Montana tomorrow.

00:48:52.000 Ladies and gentlemen, stay with us.

00:48:54.000 We'll be right back.

00:48:55.000 This is important.

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00:52:58.000 You must remain in your houses until your bracelets are scanned.

00:53:05.000 There's so many red flags in this that we're going to be covering it over the next two days, along with all the latest flu developments here on air.

00:53:11.000 Burmess will be sitting in live.

00:53:12.000 I'll be doing live reports from Montana.

00:53:16.000 But then you have the lady running for mayor, whose husband was the head of the facility, who's now been removed. 0.98

00:53:25.000 I mean, this just gets crazier and crazier, sir.

00:53:28.000 Yeah, it sure does.

00:53:31.000 The Smith gentleman was the executive director of Twin Rivers, Two Rivers Authority.

00:53:36.000 They say that he was put on administrative leave without so much as an explanation.

00:53:41.000 And I've tried on all of the three numbers I've been able to obtain.

00:53:45.000 I get nothing but voicemail.

00:53:46.000 Carrie Smith, who is his wife, who is the current mayoral candidate, is attempting to, you know, the statement she made was, don't worry, everybody, citizens of the department, the truth about APF will be exposed soon enough, and then just go, with the flow.

00:54:01.000 That was a direct quote from her that can be done on this.

00:54:03.000 Yeah, that's her on the TV news. 1.00

00:54:05.000 And the statehouse is saying, we're not getting answers.

00:54:08.000 Yeah. Well, that's the thing is, you know, this last two days that I've spent literally several, you know, most of this last two days on the phone with the Montana government, I'm getting all these canned answers from Governor Schweitzer, from Senator Baucus, and it's all the same thing.

00:54:21.000 Well, sir, we're very honored that you took the time to contact us today.

00:54:24.000 We'll be glad to send you a rubber-stamped form letter and blah, blah, blah.

00:54:27.000 And we're actually not really at liberty to talk about that.

00:54:29.000 The biggest, scariest, and most disgusting thing about this, Mr.

00:54:32.000 Jones, is that they say the same thing.

00:54:35.000 This is a private deal between the city of Havre and American Police Force and Two Rivers Authority.

00:54:40.000 You're going to have to talk to them.

00:54:42.000 So I asked this guy.

00:54:42.000 I mean, literally, it was a verbal duke out with this guy.

00:54:44.000 I said, so what you're telling me is that the governor of my state, the supreme authority of my state, has absolutely no interest in the fact that there are foreign mercenaries who have set up a forward operating base, essentially.

00:54:54.000 It's a hardened structure that's surrounded by hundreds of roles.

00:54:57.000 It was an abdication of authority.

00:54:58.000 They're just saying, do whatever you want.

00:55:01.000 And then you said this commander, he calls himself some type of commander.

00:55:05.000 He's like...

00:55:06.000 Captain Michael Heston or something like that.

00:55:09.000 And you're saying he gets really mad when you try to talk to him?

00:55:23.000 Who is the old guy with the foreign accent, always smoking cigarettes with everyone? 1.00

00:55:27.000 The town officials are always groveling.

00:55:29.000 Their body language is...

00:55:31.000 Okay, that's him.

00:55:32.000 They're always...

00:55:32.000 He's got a big Russian accent, yeah.

00:55:35.000 And then the tall, heavy-set gentleman with gray hair is Al Peterson, who is the executive director of Two Rivers Authority. 0.63

00:55:41.000 He physically cursed me out over the phone, told me I was way out in left field, was full of bovine feces, and told me exactly where I could go stuff myself and then hung up on me.

00:55:52.000 So I called him back twice. 0.94

00:55:53.000 He hung up on me again.

00:55:54.000 Third time, I said I left him a message, and I said, sir, you're neither away from your phone.

00:55:58.000 Nor are you dealing with another client who are deliberately ignoring a call from a concerned American patriot while you're harboring mercenaries on American soil.

00:56:05.000 Well, here's the bottom line.

00:56:06.000 Where is this going?

00:56:07.000 Because they may think that they own the town.

00:56:10.000 I mean, this is like something out of an old Western.

00:56:12.000 I mean, how is this going to end?

00:56:13.000 Just black SUVs riding around, ruling us?

00:56:16.000 I mean...

00:56:17.000 Well, you know, that's our summarization at this point, is that, you know, we've been observing these conditions as they magnify magnetomically on a daily basis.

00:56:24.000 You know, everything that Obama has told us has been We need a private military force, a private police force that is just as well equipped and trained as our modern military.

00:56:40.000 Just as big, just as strong, just as big, just as strong.

00:56:44.000 Well, by God, here they are.

00:56:45.000 They're called APF.

00:56:46.000 Here they are, Merck.

00:56:48.000 And she told you, their spokeswoman, the former Billings Gazette reporter, now admittedly works, she said, oh, this is nationwide.

00:56:54.000 She, in no uncertain terms, she was very evasive about it, but she slipped on a couple of occasions and said that they had, this is how they had done the evaluations for centers from Coastal.

00:57:03.000 And then they won't say where their money comes from, but predominantly their corporate...

00:57:12.000 Oh, and on the news they say hundreds.

00:57:15.000 One newscast said 500, one said more.

00:57:18.000 personnel are about to arrive, but no one can be told anything about them?

00:57:21.000 The current statistics that we've been able to obtain is that there are approximately 50 to 60 current active agents for American police force within the boundaries of the United States, and they have approximately 1,600 operators worldwide.

00:57:34.000 They claim to be able to land a battalion-sized, special forces-qualified element of troops within 72 hours anywhere globally.

00:57:41.000 And that's, you know, a battalion, that's an awful lot of special forces-qualified troops.

00:57:47.000 But, you know, the other thing that we're kind of leery about this whole thing is that, you know, when I directly approached her and I said, so what about these potential ties that we've discovered through our research on the internet that say that you were tied to corporations like Dynacor, like, you know, Three Canopies, or the Dynacor Blackwater Security, now known as XE. And she said, well, I'm not really at So this group may just be a cutout for a consortium of mercs.

00:58:15.000 You know, basically what it is, is this is the smoke screen.

00:58:18.000 When you go to penetrate your enemy's defensive lines, what you're going to do is probe their defenses first to find out where their strong points are.

00:58:24.000 And you do that by creating extremely sensitive and extremely visible pockets of, you know, little things that you can see.

00:58:31.000 From that point, you exploit the weaknesses.

00:58:34.000 Well, yeah, we're getting calls about black SUVs, Humvees, troop movements all over that area.

00:58:40.000 We're going to get more updates from you in the days to come when I'm on the ground in Montana.

00:58:44.000 Mr. Hollingsworth, your reports at InfoAwards.com.

00:58:47.000 Thanks for your great info.

00:58:48.000 Oh, yeah, Alex.

00:58:50.000 Thank you for everything you do.

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01:02:16.000 Joining us, popping in with an update on his quest for 9-11 truth, his request for the president to read his 20 bullet points in 20 minutes with the president, and his quest to get the media to not distort what he said but actually debate him on fair terms, Charlie Sheen joins us.

01:02:33.000 Charlie Sheen, good to have you here.

01:02:34.000 Great to be here, Alex.

01:02:35.000 How are you, man?

01:02:36.000 I'm great.

01:02:38.000 I just told you about that I'm on the White House enemies list to, quote, be taken out politically.

01:02:44.000 Politically, I'm number 25 on, uh, number 24 of 25. Now, what, what, how, how long is the list?

01:02:51.000 How many, how many names are on there?

01:02:52.000 Or, or do we even know?

01:02:54.000 25 people are on it.

01:02:56.000 Oh, so you're number 25?

01:02:57.000 No, I'm number 24 of 25. Ah, excellent.

01:03:00.000 So you just made the cut.

01:03:01.000 Congratulations, Alex.

01:03:02.000 That's fabulous.

01:03:05.000 Unbelievable. So these knuckleheads would compile a list of, you know, singling out people that are, that are, that are, that are sort of It's amazing,

01:03:24.000 and you know my film that the White House singles out exposes Bush and Obama and just says that Obama's continuing the wars, the Patriot Act, secret arrest, and that we wish Obama would keep his promises, and I guess I get on a list for this.

01:03:37.000 Yeah, you're not making anything up.

01:03:39.000 You're just, you know, you're just pointing to the truth, that's all.

01:03:44.000 Yikes. I mean, I guess at this point in the game, it's better to be on the enemies list than the friends list, right?

01:03:50.000 Absolutely. If you're on the friends list, you've got to be employed by Wall Street, you know?

01:03:56.000 Absolutely. Charlie, let's get into your 20 minutes with the President.

01:04:01.000 Megaviral all over the web.

01:04:02.000 Millions of views on your message to the President, the video.

01:04:06.000 The media attacked you.

01:04:07.000 They distorted what you had to say.

01:04:09.000 They never really mentioned your specific bullet points, like six of the ten commission members saying that 9-11 was a cover-up, a hoax, a fraud, that there should be a criminal investigation.

01:04:21.000 I know this has been frustrating for you and I. Can you speak to that?

01:04:26.000 Well, yeah.

01:04:27.000 It's exactly what we anticipated would happen.

01:04:31.000 That they would attack the man and not the facts.

01:04:35.000 But it got so blatant that I think they really showed their hand in how they treated it and how they behaved around it.

01:04:45.000 I think that sends such a huge message right there.

01:04:50.000 That you and I put forth something that they just, as I said before, they couldn't disassemble, so they tried to disassemble me, you know?

01:05:01.000 Absolutely. And it's a shame because, you know, we're not, you know, we're not naked shouting from the top of a building, come debate us.

01:05:10.000 We're just, you know, we're issuing a very calm and reasonable offer to just sit down in an open and Debate forum and hash this thing out.

01:05:23.000 And as you and I were talking yesterday, we did get a nibble.

01:05:27.000 We got a nibble to O'Reilly's credit, but it's odd to put those two words in the same sentence, O'Reilly and credit.

01:05:37.000 But it just we haven't reached an agreement on And this afternoon we're going to be publishing an article at PrisonPlanet.com that I and Paul Watson are going to be putting together.

01:05:52.000 And specifically, now we can tell people what happened behind the scenes.

01:05:58.000 Larry King Live contacted you, your publicist, they wanted to have you on but then they couldn't find anybody to come on and debate you.

01:06:05.000 That's correct.

01:06:05.000 From the other side we have those emails.

01:06:08.000 Right, right.

01:06:09.000 Uh, we also then, O'Reilly's people contacted and said, yeah, basically, come on our show and we'll slap you around and turn your mic off.

01:06:16.000 Basically, you said no, we're going to be publishing that email.

01:06:19.000 You said no, we want to do it neutral, where I get one minute, you get one minute.

01:06:24.000 Uh, Good Morning America looked at it and then backed off of it.

01:06:28.000 I guess that's the nibble because if they actually put you on TV, and I know this would be huge ratings, so there's no reason they shouldn't, except for the fact is we talked about, I'm just paraphrasing, you know, your, Well,

01:06:54.000 no, I mean, yeah, I mean, I can't say that, but if you insist, then thank you.

01:07:00.000 But, yeah, no, but as I said, I just think it's in keeping with Well it certainly is.

01:07:26.000 Now maybe O'Reilly will agree to debate you somewhere or maybe even agree on his own show to have a moderator in and to have a real debate.

01:07:34.000 I mean it would be as big as Vice President Gore debating Ross Perot, I guarantee it.

01:07:40.000 I mean, they could definitely sell tickets to this thing, but they are afraid.

01:07:43.000 They want a one-sided...

01:07:45.000 Well, just like what we saw with Geraldo Rivera when he was on O'Reilly.

01:07:49.000 I mean, they pulled out every stop or that other show that they have on in the middle of the night on Fox.

01:07:54.000 I mean, this was the most brutal, savage, attempted character assassination I've ever seen.

01:08:01.000 Yeah, it was even worse than the first go around back in March of 06.

01:08:06.000 It's almost like they were sending a message, you know, we warned you back then, and now we're pulling out all the stops this time.

01:08:17.000 But again, 90% of the comments, of the reader comments and of the viewer comments, everybody, at least 90%, they kept saying, look at his document, look at his document,

01:08:32.000 Well, in the final equation, tens of millions of people conservatively read your letter,

01:08:50.000 read your bullet points, Of course.

01:09:06.000 In the final equation, I have to say that the message I was trying to get out was As you said in the letter, you voted for Obama, you believe all the things he said he was going to do.

01:09:30.000 Has he kept any of his promises, Charlie?

01:09:34.000 None that I've observed.

01:09:36.000 If you discover any that were kept, please bring me up to speed, you know?

01:09:42.000 Believe me, I'd like to find some.

01:09:44.000 Now he's saying Guantanamo is going to stay open and they're going to set up camps here in the U.S. Shifting gears here because I know you've got to get back on the set.

01:09:52.000 You guys are rehearsing for Two and a Half Men, the top-rated comedy TV show right now.

01:09:58.000 The contest.

01:09:59.000 Now, we announced a few weeks ago we're going to have it.

01:10:01.000 Monday is going to be the official date.

01:10:02.000 Charlie is judge, jury, executioner.

01:10:06.000 He is the guy that is going to watch the videos.

01:10:09.000 Right. And people are going to have one month from next Monday.

01:10:14.000 We're going to have a special website that we're building just for this.

01:10:16.000 And I'll have the specific rules that Charlie and I are finalizing the next few days.

01:10:21.000 But specifically, Charlie, what are you looking for in the winter here?

01:10:27.000 I'm just looking for the most interesting interpretation of the material.

01:10:39.000 I'm not looking for people to turn it into a song.

01:10:42.000 That might be a little much, but I'm just looking for perhaps the most interesting interpretation, the most passionate interpretation, just something that you and I might not have thought of in imagining

01:10:57.000 What's Thank

01:11:51.000 you. Just leave as a surprise until later.

01:12:14.000 But this is a contest everybody wants to be involved in.

01:12:18.000 I want to see hundreds and hundreds.

01:12:19.000 I know we're going to see hundreds and hundreds of entries.

01:12:21.000 We've seen hundreds when I have a thousand dollar prize.

01:12:24.000 And so in closing, I could paraphrase your idea, but we're doing this Obviously, so that there are hundreds of viral videos with the 20 bullet points and people can boil down the 15 pages or so.

01:12:39.000 They don't have to read the entire document.

01:12:42.000 Charlie, closing comments on that.

01:12:45.000 Well, yeah, I'm hoping because there's been a bit of a lull since the publishing of the document and the launching of the video, I'm hoping that this brings it back to the forefront and floods the internet.

01:12:57.000 with all these new videos and all this new energy and really is a slap in the face to Google and what they did to YouTube and what they did to that video.

01:13:09.000 Yeah, they clearly put the brakes on it.

01:13:15.000 Well, Charlie, I'm going to let you get back to what you're doing, but just to give people a little bit of a hint, this video contest is Phase 2, and throughout the future, just so people Yes, we are.

01:13:39.000 Yes, we are.

01:13:40.000 No, this is not...

01:13:41.000 This is a multi-phase project, and phase one complete.

01:13:46.000 Phase two is beginning, and phase three will be a big surprise.

01:13:50.000 And phase two is all about the listeners and the viewers taking action.

01:13:56.000 We're giving you the ball.

01:13:57.000 Run with it.

01:13:58.000 And, again, there's a phase two to phase two.

01:14:01.000 Charlie, thank you so much for spending time.

01:14:03.000 Not at all.

01:14:04.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:14:05.000 I will talk to you soon.

01:14:07.000 Okay, bye-bye.

01:14:08.000 All right, there goes Charlie Sheen.

01:14:10.000 Yeah, this guy has got a new idea, and I'm just going to leave it at that, that is much bigger than even the first.

01:14:18.000 And believe me, now, by the way, I ended up staying up late again last night working on the Gardasil stories and researching what's happening with that and...

01:14:28.000 Because we got so many hundreds of entries, I was not going to not watch them all.

01:14:32.000 I finally watched all of them.

01:14:33.000 I bit off more than I can chew.

01:14:35.000 I got behind on judging all of these.

01:14:39.000 I was supposed to announce it a couple weeks ago, the latest $1,000 contest for your political poster.

01:14:44.000 We've already had the other one and paid out on that, the Obama Joker poster that had huge international success thanks to you.

01:14:52.000 But I have judged, and at the end of the show today, I'm going to announce the winners tomorrow.

01:14:59.000 I'm going to play the three winning videos, but we're going to get another article out today or tomorrow about it.

01:15:04.000 I just got so far behind.

01:15:06.000 I bit off more than I can chew.

01:15:07.000 I try to do too much.

01:15:08.000 It's like I'm a mule trying to carry up a big bag of rocks on my back up a mountain, and I kind of slid down a little bit, but that's okay because I kicked.

01:15:15.000 You ever seen a mule when it gets mad when it's trying to climb up a hill or something?

01:15:18.000 It gets mad after it falls down and kicks back up the hill.

01:15:22.000 I've done a little bit of cowboying, so I've seen horses and mules and stuff.

01:15:26.000 Uh, you know, when they get mad, like they'll, you'll, well, let's be honest, I was always in there with a hot shot or dehorning them and a few times got on a horse but always got thrown off or hurt.

01:15:35.000 The real cowboys, they'd be in there with these wild, uh, steers that have been out on a big ranch for years and never even been vaccinated or dehorned.

01:15:43.000 They were getting ready for sale and they'd have incredible work horses and, and mules and they'd lasso, you know, one of those cows or bulls and start dragging them in with two horses or one horse and, you know, Sometimes that horse would get pulled back, and you'd see that horse get mad, and just bustles would pound out, and those horses would just start bucking, dragging a cow twice their size, a bull twice their size, just going wild!

01:16:05.000 Anyways, that's where that analogy comes from, of seeing a horse when it gets pissed off.

01:16:11.000 Just amazing.

01:16:12.000 I've seen horses drag cattle through fences, just getting wild!

01:16:17.000 Anyway, side issue.

01:16:18.000 Real cowboying, folks.

01:16:19.000 Not the stuff you see at the rodeos.

01:16:21.000 It's even more vicious.

01:16:26.000 That's why I want to make a documentary about real cowboys.

01:16:28.000 Every time I see a documentary about cowboys, it's some guy who lives on some family ranch and wearing a big fancy hat.

01:16:33.000 I'm sure he's going with a lasso.

01:16:35.000 But real cowboys are out at 3 a.m. at the bar, drunk as a skunk.

01:16:40.000 Then they're driving 18-wheelers hauling gravel.

01:16:42.000 Then they go out three or four days a week with no sleep and getting fistfights with each other and drag cattle around. 0.99

01:16:48.000 These people are maniacs. 0.98

01:16:50.000 Side issue. 0.96

01:16:51.000 I just wish I could go make documentaries about stuff like that, the things I've experienced.

01:16:56.000 It's very macho culture, folks.

01:16:58.000 Very macho.

01:16:59.000 I mean, you'll just be sitting there, you know, when I was like six...

01:17:01.000 I did it when I was 13, 14, 15, and some when I was 16 on the summers.

01:17:05.000 You'd be sitting there, and these guys were so testosterone-ed out.

01:17:12.000 I'm not even gonna tell the story.

01:17:14.000 People wouldn't believe it.

01:17:16.000 They wouldn't believe it.

01:17:19.000 Side issue.

01:17:22.000 Some things are just better not told, I think.

01:17:25.000 Actually, people don't believe it anyways.

01:17:27.000 This weird-ass life I've got.

01:17:29.000 I'm now on the White House enemies list.

01:17:31.000 We're getting Megadeth on, we've woken up, naming their new album off of Endgame, my film.

01:17:37.000 A lot of people were pointing that out.

01:17:39.000 I actually knew behind the scenes it was named after that, but I wanted to let Dave Mustaine say it on air. 1.00

01:17:44.000 I was getting these emails, you lying bastard, Megadeth urinates on you, they hate you. 1.00

01:17:48.000 And I was like, yeah, right. 0.99

01:17:50.000 But look, It's just a little bit of satisfaction here in the face of all this danger to have the White House to be on their enemies list, to see that we're waking up Bruce Willis and Dave Mustaine and Charlie Sheen and Jesse Ventura and Willie Nelson and just countless other people.

01:18:06.000 I can't even name here because they want to be private.

01:18:08.000 People say, oh, what's it matter if you're waking up celebrities?

01:18:10.000 That's a gauge of society.

01:18:12.000 And if the celebrities aren't fake right-wingers, or fake leftists anymore, and they woke it up to the paradigm, that is just a signpost, or an indicator, or a thermostat, showing you the Mercury's rising for liberty.

01:18:24.000 And so, it's a blessing.

01:18:26.000 I'm very honored to be on the White House enemies list.

01:18:30.000 It's just, if I get killed in a carjacking, or I get found in a hotel room in a clown suit, With heroin needles hanging out of me.

01:18:39.000 I don't dress in clown suits or inject heroin.

01:18:42.000 And I say that because that's the kind of thing they do. 0.99

01:18:44.000 They kill you and dress you like a woman or, you know, or they kill a woman and kill you and throw them in, you know, into a pit. 1.00

01:18:54.000 This is the kind of crap. 1.00

01:18:55.000 They walk up in a grocery store parking lot and cap you in the back of the head and take your wallet. 1.00

01:18:59.000 And if that happens to me, because it says Bill Clinton's involved in this.

01:19:05.000 And he runs hit teams, murder teams.

01:19:08.000 Don't forget the Clinton Chronicles and all of that, the death list. 0.93

01:19:11.000 If they do kill me, remember, that is a victory.

01:19:14.000 Not a victory for me, I mean, I don't want it to happen and I'll never kill myself and I love life so much it's unbelievable.

01:19:22.000 But... In the final equation, it means we're hurting the New World Order.

01:19:29.000 It means we've got power.

01:19:30.000 It means we're affecting change.

01:19:31.000 It means they're scared of us.

01:19:35.000 Man, I walked out on my front porch last night and there were huge orange and red and pink thunderheads with the sunset hitting them, flashing with lightning.

01:19:43.000 The moon was out.

01:19:44.000 Jupiter was out.

01:19:46.000 It was still daylight, but Jupiter and the moon were out, and it was just so gorgeous.

01:19:50.000 I could smell the fresh-cut grass and the oak trees, and I just love God.

01:19:55.000 I love creation.

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01:20:21.000 Well, Obama's already fudging.

01:20:23.000 He's fudged since day one in this election.

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01:23:08.000 We are going to continue to cover the G20 Open World Government being announced for Barack Obama.

01:23:14.000 He's the first U.S. president to sit as the chairman of the United Nations Security Council, the 15-member.

01:23:21.000 That's the only group that can really vote and has power.

01:23:24.000 The General Assembly has no power.

01:23:27.000 CNN called him president of the world, and he was shaking when he gaveled it in two days ago.

01:23:32.000 Shaking with pleasure.

01:23:35.000 U.S. Ambassador Rice behind him was shaking.

01:23:38.000 Henry Kissinger was shaking in the audience.

01:23:41.000 This is the New World Order, the Eugenics World Government, now coming into fruition. 0.88

01:23:47.000 We are joined by Dave Mustaine, the founder and lead guitarist and lead singer of Megadeth, guitarist, lead singer of Megadeth, Megadeth.com.

01:23:55.000 The new album is in game, and I just want to say that growing up, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35 today, I have always loved Megadeth because the lyrics I didn't even really understand them when I was 12, 14, 15 years old, 20 years old, but then as I learned about the new world order, the eugenics, the master plan, it really did influence me and I didn't even realize how much it did.

01:24:20.000 A man way before his time understanding what was coming.

01:24:23.000 Most of their covers are about the UN and world government and now it's all happening.

01:24:27.000 Dave Mustaine, joining us.

01:24:28.000 Thank you so much, sir.

01:24:30.000 You're welcome, Alex.

01:24:31.000 What do you think about what's happening?

01:24:33.000 World government being announced.

01:24:35.000 It's pretty frightening.

01:24:37.000 It's pretty frightening.

01:24:37.000 I have to be really careful when I do my interviews and talk about a lot of stuff because, you know, you have to be objective and you have to give people the right to think out of the box.

01:24:47.000 But I think you and I agree on a lot of things and especially I want to tell you thanks for inspiring me to look into the whole Endgame film.

01:24:58.000 And I actually had discovered this document through watching an inspirational video.

01:25:04.000 And then, you know, I know we've spoken before.

01:25:07.000 That was a privilege for me because I believe you're a patriot.

01:25:12.000 I think our country needs more people like you.

01:25:16.000 As far as having our record called Endgame, I think the best way to thank somebody is to bring credit where credit's due, so thanks.

01:25:28.000 Well, thank you, Dave.

01:25:31.000 Listen, that's just amazing that you influenced me.

01:25:36.000 And then now with my research, I've influenced you.

01:25:39.000 It's kind of the circle is complete.

01:25:41.000 Almost. Now we just need one big boom. 0.98

01:25:45.000 Well, I tell you, I mean, my wife is freaked out because she researches all this and she says, it's happening.

01:25:51.000 It's world government, world taxes, world carbon taxes.

01:25:56.000 We're going to go to break in a moment and some stations join us.

01:25:59.000 But Dave, tell us about the new record that's coming out.

01:26:08.000 Well, the new record we have recorded in a studio that I own in San Marcos, California.

01:26:13.000 I moved back to San Diego after the lawsuit with Ellison.

01:26:18.000 I just didn't want to be in the same city with him, so we moved.

01:26:21.000 And then when I started doing this record, of course, I have a real free world kind of thinking with my lyrics and stuff, so it was just going to be more of the same with this record.

01:26:33.000 Continuing my idea to raise awareness and to help people think.

01:26:38.000 I may not be right, but I'm certainly right to inspire people to question.

01:26:44.000 And this record has a lot of topics in it.

01:26:46.000 It talks about the collapse of the financial institutions.

01:26:49.000 I went to school and I got licensed by the state and federal government to work on Wall Street as a stockbroker.

01:26:55.000 I figured, you know, being in the music business, most people in the music business aren't very smart when it comes to their money.

01:27:01.000 So I wanted to be smart and educate myself about that.

01:27:04.000 And along the way, you learn so much.

01:27:06.000 The more that you're willing to exercise your brain, the more that you discover that it's just frightening.

01:27:11.000 You know, watching the zeitgeist clip and then, you know, knowing all the stuff that's going on with the marrow and so on and so forth.

01:27:19.000 You know, these are all things that are pretty tip, you know, pretty atypical conspiracy theories and stuff.

01:27:24.000 But I mean, if you really think that just one second, you say, OK, maybe this isn't a conspiracy.

01:27:29.000 Dave.

01:27:30.000 we've got a break!

01:27:31.000 We gotta break.

01:27:32.000 The satellite makes us break.

01:27:33.000 Stay right there.

01:27:34.000 We'll be right back with Dave Mustaine, the founder of Megadeth.

01:27:38.000 Stay with us.

01:27:42.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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Alex Jones Show - September 30, 2009

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