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00:00:06.000 We're going to take your phone calls throughout this hour, and Stuart Rhodes of Oath Keepers, the founder of it, is with us.

00:00:21.000 He was an aide to Congressman Ron Paul.

00:00:25.000 He was a paratrooper in the Army.

00:00:28.000 He decided to start Oath Keepers, which has really taken off.

00:00:32.000 All over the nation, on the streets, not even when I'm at events.

00:00:35.000 But I see people handing out Oath Keeper material.

00:00:38.000 I see people handing out flyers about the carbon tax and world government.

00:00:42.000 I went to Dutch Roll Shell last week to pay for some gas in Austin, and there on the counter were Anti-Federal Reserve flyers.

00:00:52.000 And I said to the guy behind the counter, I said, where did this come from?

00:00:55.000 And he said, oh, the owner of this gas station, not the franchise itself, but the franchise owner of that particular shell put those out.

00:01:03.000 And so everywhere you're seeing activism, and it's transcending the controlled left-right paradigm.

00:01:09.000 And Oath Keepers is getting the military to say, we will follow our oath to protect and defend the Constitution and to not violate our oath, to not put Americans in FEMA camps, to not confiscate their guns.

00:01:21.000 Now, big national media have written scores of articles attacking myself and Stuart Rhodes.

00:01:28.000 They always include me into Oath Keepers, even though I'm not a military veteran.

00:01:32.000 And they say, this group wants to overthrow the President.

00:01:35.000 This group wants to have a war.

00:01:38.000 This group, when Oath Keepers, is about saying, we're not going to let criminals in government overthrow our country, and we are peacefully speaking out against violence.

00:01:50.000 So there's a real attempt here to distort what's really happening.

00:01:56.000 And we're seeing a lot of goading on the forums, a lot of pushing, and it's come out countless times.

00:02:01.000 A big court case just got lost by a government employee in Canada, where it turned out that by day, he was a hate crime fighter, arresting people that Criticize any group in any way, or fining them, or feeing them, or... But by night, he was a Nazi actually out doing the events. 0.66

00:02:23.000 This is how they work.

00:02:24.000 Like they bombed Oklahoma City to blame it on the Patriot Movement.

00:02:27.000 And that's all the evidence is there.

00:02:29.000 I've had police on that investigated it.

00:02:30.000 The bombs in the building.

00:02:31.000 You know, the whole story.

00:02:33.000 The way the New World Order is going to operate is, they're going to attack their own police and military to then get them to attack the American people and launch this war. 0.58

00:02:44.000 We're trying to stop that from happening.

00:02:45.000 We're going to talk about that today with Stuart Rose.

00:02:48.000 We're going to talk about Oath Keepers.

00:02:50.000 It's going to be linking up with 9-12 that Glenn Beck is one of the progenitors of.

00:02:59.000 But the people in it are good.

00:03:01.000 And I understand that a lot of people don't want to bash Glenn Beck.

00:03:06.000 I guess we could have a moratorium on Beck and say, okay, Beck, if you ever come back and say there aren't FEMA camps again, or that maybe the veterans are dangerous and crazy, or maybe we should use troops against the American people, or Ron Paul's bad.

00:03:22.000 You know, I've seen him at key junctures do this, and if you don't think the establishment doesn't want to lead our movement against the New World Order, you've got another thing coming.

00:03:31.000 It's like the NRA authored the 1968 Gun Control Act.

00:03:35.000 Did you know that?

00:03:37.000 It's actually a pro-gun control group.

00:03:39.000 It's members aren't, so I'm really concerned about that, but I think it's great to have our people not infiltrate, but go in with the true message in the 9-12.

00:03:48.000 I think Oath Keepers are just fabulous, as long as they keep their code of not going along with martial law, police state, and the ten, you know, the ten points that they Swear that they're going to uphold.

00:04:06.000 So a very, very complex issue here, but I'm glad that our audience has embraced Stewart Rhodes and Oath Keepers from its embryonic phase.

00:04:13.000 I'm very honored to see Oath Keepers from its maiden voyage expand out into what it is today.

00:04:18.000 There is an extra 20-minute extra in Fall of the Republic that is the Oath Keepers.

00:04:24.000 They're also going to be in Fall of the Republic 2, but the extra in Fall of the Republic is a Well, we went to Lysington Green, interviewed Stewart and many others.

00:04:37.000 It's very, very powerful.

00:04:39.000 Let's now go to Stewart Rhodes.

00:04:40.000 Stewart, good to have you here with us today.

00:04:42.000 Thank you, sir.

00:04:43.000 Honored to be here again.

00:04:44.000 Appreciate it.

00:04:45.000 I'm going to touch on the 9-12 thing real quickly.

00:04:49.000 Whatever the involvement of Beck was, I talked to the national coordinator for 9-12, and in fact, she'll be, her name is Ida Davis, and Patrick Jenkins, founder of 9-12, is going to be at our convention this next weekend in Las Vegas, October 24th and 25th, as the first Goalkeeper convention.

00:05:08.000 But I got a good sense from talking to her that her, she really is grassroots driven, Listen, I want to be clear.

00:05:15.000 I hope you go on Glenn Beck.

00:05:16.000 sense it's about being nonpartisan and she said that she's going to encourage folks to run independence in local races to break the lock of the two-party system and what counts is whether you're a constitutionalist not whether you're you have our democrat or deep behind your well listen listen i want to be clear i hope you go on glenn beck i hope glenn beck like saul of tarsus gets knocked off his horse and wakes up and becomes a good guy

00:05:44.000 He just won't be on air very long, at least the level he is.

00:05:48.000 I just know he's an operative, and I know he's there to get everybody's confidence and betray everyone, because he's proven it.

00:05:55.000 And I've listened to him and watched him with great detail.

00:05:58.000 Overall, I think some of what he's doing is positive, but he's only doing that so he can double back later.

00:06:03.000 So I don't want to just get into this here and say, how dare the 9-12 Project get involved.

00:06:07.000 This is good.

00:06:08.000 This is the true patriots.

00:06:11.000 Beck tried to take over what we started.

00:06:13.000 Now we're going back and taking over what is rightfully ours.

00:06:17.000 The tea parties, 9-12, everything else.

00:06:21.000 And I think, you know, on the surface we should be friendly towards Beck.

00:06:24.000 And I didn't even mean to get off into that.

00:06:26.000 You just told me off air that it looks like you guys are going to be part of the next big 9-12 event.

00:06:31.000 And so I think that's very, very important.

00:06:35.000 Well, what they approached me about was that they want to do a big summit of all the different liberty leaders to come together, and all the different organizations, and they're targeting April for that, April 15th or 19th.

00:06:45.000 But I just talked to her again and encouraged her to think about doing one a lot sooner, because we're running out of time.

00:06:50.000 And so I propose that we do one on December 15th and 16th, which is Bill of Rights Day, and the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.

00:06:56.000 Hold a symposium of national liberty leaders, everybody.

00:07:01.000 It doesn't make a difference who they are, just come together and talk and plan.

00:07:04.000 Not just come together to protest, but get together to plan and coordinate.

00:07:08.000 It's high time we do that.

00:07:10.000 I know other folks have tried to do that.

00:07:12.000 Bob Schultz of We the People, having his condo in Congress.

00:07:16.000 But the more we get together like this, the better.

00:07:18.000 So I encourage any Liberty Organization leaders, and also you, Well, I was invited to that.

00:07:25.000 I didn't go because I was too busy working on the film.

00:07:29.000 And I think it's a fine idea.

00:07:31.000 Just having only a select coterie of leaders together, I don't think is the way I would go.

00:07:37.000 To have a huge throng of different people together, as long as... But see, 9-12 is setting it up.

00:07:45.000 They're going to direct it, I guess.

00:07:47.000 No, she's open to having my input.

00:07:51.000 It's not going to be just a certain elite.

00:07:55.000 It's everyone from across the country, all different grass roots.

00:07:58.000 No, I know.

00:07:59.000 I'm just saying, I hope that the big event is directed by all the groups that are there and not just the 9-12 project.

00:08:07.000 No, it won't be.

00:08:08.000 It's not about 9-12.

00:08:09.000 That's the whole point, is to get everyone together.

00:08:12.000 I mean, call it an Oathkeeper Summit.

00:08:14.000 It's about our oath to the Constitution, and it's about getting together and working to defend...

00:08:19.000 Hey, regardless, we need to get together, and I absolutely agree with you.

00:08:21.000 That's exciting.

00:08:23.000 Let's shift gears now into all the attack pieces.

00:08:26.000 There's so many, I don't even read them all now when I see the headlines, but I notice you and I are being attacked together.

00:08:32.000 You'll have like a 5, 10, some cases ADL, 15 page report, Southern Poverty Law Center, George Soros groups, and they always put you and I together.

00:08:44.000 They think associating with you scares me.

00:08:46.000 And vice versa.

00:08:48.000 I guess they think that's some kind of a plus.

00:08:51.000 But it works in our favor, I think.

00:08:54.000 Sure, but they're also trying to imply that we're calling for revolution and violence.

00:08:59.000 Meanwhile, they've got their operatives out trying to stir up violence.

00:09:03.000 They're kind of in a 1990s model.

00:09:05.000 I don't see this working today.

00:09:07.000 I think people are looking right through them.

00:09:10.000 Well, and also the message of Oath Keepers is that you do not have to violate the Constitution to save it.

00:09:18.000 And this is what's different between us and other countries, like Nazi Germany, where the oath was to the Fuhrer.

00:09:24.000 their only chance of ever saving Germany would be to rebel against their oath and violate their own oath and kill Hitler. 0.61

00:09:31.000 In our country, the oath is to the Constitution.

00:09:33.000 And so that's why our message to police and military is only to refuse the unlawful orders and to stand down.

00:09:40.000 It can't be done without them.

00:09:42.000 And we even get criticism from folks who are like, well, I want to know what you're going to do, not just what you won't do.

00:09:46.000 And they're missing the whole point.

00:09:48.000 If the police and military don't do anything, then we win.

00:09:51.000 But how can they do it without?

00:09:53.000 They'd have to bring in foreign troops.

00:09:54.000 Well, sure, sure.

00:09:55.000 I mean, to boil it down, somebody's got to say it's wrong to train to confiscate guns, it's wrong to build FEMA camps, that's all admitted now.

00:10:03.000 It's wrong to put military on the streets of America for regular police actions and not just emergencies.

00:10:09.000 All of this is clearly authoritarian, un-American.

00:10:12.000 History shows it's bad.

00:10:14.000 We know the federal government's been hijacked by foreign banks. 0.99

00:10:17.000 And just shake our heads, kind of wake ourselves up, put our heads in a bucket of ice water, and go, wait a minute, foreign offshore banks run by people like Ken Lay and Madoff have come in, taken over, and are engaged in crime, and now the criminals are trying to direct the military and police to break their oaths To protect the corrupt elite?

00:10:40.000 Just follow the Constitution!

00:10:40.000 No!

00:10:42.000 Start saying no!

00:10:44.000 But the establishment, by increments, trains police and military to violate the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, a little bit by a little bit, but before they know it, they've been completely twisted.

00:10:55.000 Right, and defenders standing on the streets and dispersing people, protesters and using sound cameras on them.

00:11:02.000 So that's the whole point of our message is to counteract that and to teach them about the Constitution and get them back to square one of being defenders of the Constitution.

00:11:11.000 But there's that powerful peer pressure mode.

00:11:14.000 I mean, I would imagine of the thousands of police and military batoning women running for no reason, having police dogs bite old women. 0.77

00:11:21.000 I mean, there's video of this.

00:11:22.000 Driving through empty neighborhoods, sound canoning a kid as they walked out their front door with a football.

00:11:28.000 I mean, just, you're not allowed on the streets of Pittsburgh or Oakland, Pennsylvania.

00:11:32.000 We come back, I want to talk about that because I'm sure some of those troops and police were good people, but in that mass psychology of war, And with all the psychological brainwashing they've gone through, the hypnotic suggestions of their training, when the time came, I mean, they were looking for blood.

00:11:52.000 They wanted the blood of the American people. 0.97

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00:15:56.000 Stuart Rhodes is our guest. - Wow.

00:16:04.000 Stuart-Rhodes.blogspot.com.

00:16:06.000 You can also go to the Oath Keepers website, OathKeepers.org.

00:16:10.000 We'll tell you about the big Las Vegas event, their first annual meeting.

00:16:14.000 You'll want to be there.

00:16:16.000 Stuart's a founder and director of Oath Keepers.

00:16:18.000 Army paratrooper until he disabled.

00:16:18.000 He served as a U.S.

00:16:21.000 And a rough terrain parachuting accident during a night jump.

00:16:24.000 He is a former firearms instructor and former member representative of Ron Paul's D.C.

00:16:27.000 staff.

00:16:28.000 Stewart currently writes the monthly Enemy at the Gates column for SWAT Magazine.

00:16:32.000 So they're reaching out to those people.

00:16:33.000 Stewart graduated from Yale Law School.

00:16:37.000 Where his paper, Solving the Puzzle of Enemy Combatant Status, won Yale's Miller Prize for Best Paper on the Bill of Rights.

00:16:43.000 He assisted teaching U.S.

00:16:45.000 military history at Yale, was a Yale research scholar, and is writing a book on the dangers of applying the laws of war to the American people.

00:16:52.000 And he's a great leader, and we're honored to have men of his caliber fighting the globalist takeover.

00:16:57.000 And he's another testament to taking action.

00:17:01.000 What, Oath Keeper's been around how long?

00:17:03.000 And it's, I mean, it's everywhere now.

00:17:04.000 It's exploding.

00:17:07.000 First official meeting on the Green in Lexington.

00:17:10.000 This last year.

00:17:13.000 This year.

00:17:13.000 April 19, 2009.

00:17:14.000 So it's less than a year old.

00:17:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:17:18.000 We're in our baby infancy stage, but it's growing like wildfire.

00:17:23.000 We have directors now in about half the states, and our goal is to have strong Oath Keeper chapters in every county.

00:17:29.000 Because we've got to protect the country from the county up.

00:17:32.000 Well Stuart, I'm going to be honest with you, and I'm not telling you to get into politics, because what you're doing is more important than the grassroots right now, but I'm not impressed with some of the people running under the Ron Paul banner.

00:17:44.000 I'm not impressed with how they compromise.

00:17:47.000 I'm not talking about Ron Paul himself, but some of the people kind of running on his coattails.

00:17:52.000 You are the type of person, that's what's good about Oath Keepers, we'll find more high caliber people who we should run for Congress.

00:17:59.000 Well, I don't think I've ever worked for office because I think I'm much better at going and finding folks.

00:18:05.000 And for example, there's a candidate in Orange County for Sheriff there, Bill Hunt, who we're putting our We're getting behind.

00:18:15.000 And I think he's a pretty committed patriot in the lines of Sheriff Mack.

00:18:20.000 And that's where I would start as a sheriff, race to the county.

00:18:23.000 And Kent Harris up in Uniquay County, Tennessee, we were just there.

00:18:26.000 In fact, Chuck Walton was there, too.

00:18:28.000 And his son, Tim Walton, were there for a patriot rally up in Uniquay County in the northeastern corner of Tennessee.

00:18:35.000 And that's a pretty squared away sheriff, too.

00:18:36.000 And there was a bunch of folks there open carrying.

00:18:39.000 And the Sheriff endorsed and supported that.

00:18:41.000 He wants people to do that.

00:18:42.000 He wants to exercise their rights.

00:18:44.000 So, those are all good signs.

00:18:47.000 Yeah, the open carry is really going to defeat the gun grabbers, because as you know, they advertise all over TV that owning guns is illegal.

00:18:55.000 And they base all those TV shows in New York where they are.

00:18:58.000 And so, all over the country, people are getting the... I mean, have you seen the John Elway Homeland Security video?

00:19:03.000 They're showing citizens where he's... Yeah, I've seen that, yeah.

00:19:06.000 Well, for those that don't know, they show gold and say terrorists in their home may have gold or they may have firearms.

00:19:12.000 Call the police if you see firearms.

00:19:14.000 I mean, we've got to start wearing our guns openly to just educate the sheeple that guns aren't illegal.

00:19:21.000 Yeah, but they don't even know that open carry is legal in most states.

00:19:24.000 And that's why folks are doing that, is to put the point across that, hey, I'm not violating any code.

00:19:31.000 I'm not violating any statute by standing here with a safely holstered sidearm.

00:19:36.000 Stewart, I can't stress enough how much your organization is scaring the globalists.

00:19:41.000 I mean, they admit they are scared of the police and military being recruited by the patriots and just learning what it is to be an American, rediscovering that.

00:19:49.000 We're going to go to break, and I want to come back and let you have the floor and then take some calls, but you started getting into G20.

00:19:55.000 Watching the videos of police dogs biting old women coming out of shops with bags, sound canoning peaceful neighborhoods, going into the university at night saying you can't be out, chasing women down, Billy clubbing them.

00:20:07.000 I mean, that is tyranny.

00:20:10.000 Well, it's kind of like having Katrina.

00:20:11.000 You had police brought in from all over the country.

00:20:14.000 They're brought in, and they don't know the local people at all.

00:20:17.000 They have no sympathy for them.

00:20:19.000 And then they're put in that riot control mode.

00:20:21.000 They're told that they're here to keep the peace, and they're told that there's going to be violent protesters.

00:20:25.000 And so they're kind of primed for that kind of behavior.

00:20:28.000 And then they kind of walk into the riot mode, and they overreact.

00:20:33.000 It's like having a hamburger.

00:20:35.000 All you have is a hammer, and everything looks like a nail.

00:20:38.000 And so once you're in that riot mode, it's hard to get them out of that.

00:20:41.000 You get macho men, warriors who are designed to go charging into other men with swords and axes, hacking each other.

00:20:41.000 Well, exactly.

00:20:48.000 That normal part of the brain kicks in, but it's college kids.

00:20:52.000 They have a few hired anarchists throw a few things, and then they go on a police rampage.

00:20:56.000 They are being psychologically manipulated.

00:20:59.000 Exactly, and that's why, I mean, like with Luke Rudowsky's attempt to talk about the road, it's necessary to do that, but by that point it's oftentimes too late because they're locked into that mode.

00:21:10.000 You gotta reach them, you gotta reach them before they get to that point.

00:21:13.000 And you gotta talk to them about how it's not proper to go from L.A.

00:21:16.000 or wherever they're from and go to another city and become nationalized.

00:21:21.000 That's the first line right there.

00:21:23.000 They shouldn't be doing that.

00:21:25.000 Long segment coming up.

00:21:26.000 I want to speak about how they bring these swarms of police from all over the nation to New Orleans or to Pittsburgh or to other areas and then G20 private security in police uniforms grabbing citizens off the street into unmarked cars.

00:21:42.000 We'll get Stuart Rhodes' take on that straight ahead.

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00:25:20.000 Stuart Rhodes is our guest.

00:25:21.000 Your phone calls, Ronnie, Scott, Karen, Mark, Bob and others are coming up here in just a few minutes.

00:25:27.000 Stuart, I was making the point as we went to break about how they're clearly turning the military and the police loose on the people.

00:25:37.000 They're clearly training them that it's macho and cool to do all of this.

00:25:43.000 That's why Oath Keepers is here, to go out and reach out to them.

00:25:48.000 And I also want to get your take just on all the other announcements we're seeing and all the different reports of urban warfare drills and the military coming out on the streets and running checkpoints.

00:26:02.000 What are the military sources you have saying?

00:26:04.000 Are they really starting to get upset about this?

00:26:09.000 Are your military sources getting upset about the deployment of military forces on the streets?

00:26:15.000 Oh, you bet!

00:26:16.000 Here's the thing though, that's a powerful, as powerful as any conditioning that's been attempted on the military has been done to them, and it's been going on for decades.

00:26:26.000 That was the whole point of Lieutenant Commander Cunningham's survey.

00:26:30.000 of the Marines, the 29 Palms, was that he saw a disturbing trend of conditioning the military to accept orders from foreign officers and to become involved in domestic policing.

00:26:42.000 So this conditioning has been going on for a long time.

00:26:44.000 But the antidote is to remind them that they're owed to the Constitution.

00:26:47.000 And it's incredibly powerful.

00:26:49.000 The founders are no dummies.

00:26:51.000 They put it there for a good reason.

00:26:53.000 They remind them of their oath, and an old white book goes up over their heads, and they're like, oh yeah, but what does that mean?

00:26:58.000 That means I have to read the Constitution to understand it, and then once I understand what the lines are drawn, I have to stand.

00:27:05.000 And so that's the thing that's grabbing them.

00:27:08.000 And it's working.

00:27:09.000 That's what we saw.

00:27:10.000 Yeah, we're losing your phone.

00:27:17.000 Are you on a Skype phone or voice over IP phone, Stuart?

00:27:25.000 Yeah, we might need to just cancel ever doing Skype phone systems.

00:27:29.000 Or maybe our system.

00:27:30.000 That's what ours is.

00:27:33.000 But we'll try to get him back on the show today.

00:27:37.000 That's why he obviously couldn't hear me earlier.

00:27:39.000 I also wanted to talk about a story Written last Thursday, titled, Former White House Speechwriter Suggests Military Coup Could Oust Obama.

00:27:55.000 And this is being pushed.

00:27:59.000 That's why...

00:28:11.000 We need to become aware of what's being said and what's being done, because the establishment itself is talking about a military coup in America, and normally when you have a military coup, to get out of one tyranny, it only creates another tyranny.

00:28:30.000 And the article is, former White House speechwriter suggests military coup could oust Obama.

00:28:35.000 Former White House speechwriter John L. Perry has courted controversy by suggesting that the U.S.

00:28:41.000 military uphold their oath to defend the Constitution against enemies, against domestic enemies, could stage a bloodless coup to oust President Obama.

00:28:50.000 That continues the illusion that Barack Obama is running anything.

00:28:55.000 Barack Obama is a corporate lawyer Who has proven himself to be one of the biggest puppets in modern history in any nation.

00:29:05.000 He reads off a teleprompter.

00:29:07.000 So it's always this illusion that it's Obama violating the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

00:29:11.000 And if we could just get rid of Obama, everything would be okay.

00:29:14.000 We've got to audit the Federal Reserve and then abolish it and arrest the bankers.

00:29:14.000 No!

00:29:20.000 If you don't get rid of them, Things only get worse.

00:29:24.000 Going back to Stuart Rhodes.

00:29:26.000 Stuart, lost you there.

00:29:28.000 I was bringing up the article Paul Watson wrote about Newsmax's story with the former White House speechwriter John L. Perry, saying that in an article originally posted at Newsmax, website Perry wrote, there's a remote, although gaining possibility, America's military will intervene in a last resort to resolve the Obama problem.

00:29:46.000 Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.

00:29:48.000 Military intervention is what Obama's exponentially accelerating agenda for fundamental change towards a Marxist state is inviting upon America a coup, and it's not an ideal option, but Obama's radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible, writes Perry.

00:30:06.000 They're trying to spin these type of articles as if this is something Oath Keepers wants, when meanwhile it's former Bush people that are actually talking about this.

00:30:16.000 And doesn't that reinforce the myth that Obama actually runs anything, when instead Ron Paul is running a counter-coup with the In The Fed movement to remove the illegitimate corporate dictatorship.

00:30:30.000 That's who we need to be talking about kicking out, but through legal parameters, once we educate the public that they're a bunch of criminal Kinlay Madoff types. 0.99

00:30:41.000 Right, well the Newsmax article didn't mention a few of them in particular, but here's the problem, is that what it's proposing is a false solution.

00:30:47.000 You don't violate the Constitution to say that a military coup would be as wildly unconstitutional as anything any president could do.

00:30:55.000 And so that's not the way to go.

00:30:57.000 If the people themselves, if anyone's going to revolt or overthrow a corrupt, cabal government, it's the people, not the military.

00:31:06.000 And so that's our answer to that, is that the oath is to the Constitution, and nowhere in the Constitution of the military is some general in sunglasses authorized to get upon himself to scrap the civil government and assume military command of the country.

00:31:21.000 It doesn't exist.

00:31:22.000 And so we're writing rebuttals to that piece that'll be on our website.

00:31:25.000 Absolutely.

00:31:26.000 In 1775, 1776, for those that don't know, they went and got the elected representatives of the 13 colonies to come and meet representing the people to then vote.

00:31:39.000 You don't have a guy with four stars or five stars with sunglasses on.

00:31:43.000 And I want to point out, the nationals, and you've written papers on this, you can speak to it.

00:31:47.000 We've had JAG officers on about it as well.

00:31:50.000 And I've studied it in depth.

00:31:52.000 We already have a military coup, as Thomas Barnett writes, but it's a good one, they think, where the global corporations now control our military through the National Security Council.

00:32:02.000 And so, you don't replace one military coup with another military coup.

00:32:06.000 You point out how it's illegal and illegitimate, and we remove the coup of the Federal Reserve.

00:32:12.000 Well, back to what you said about the founding generation.

00:32:14.000 I mean, look at the Death Wisher independence.

00:32:15.000 You don't see George Washington's name on there, or any of his officers.

00:32:19.000 He didn't call the shots.

00:32:21.000 He was a humble servant.

00:32:22.000 In fact, he signed off on every correspondence to Congress.

00:32:25.000 Humble servant.

00:32:26.000 You're a humble servant.

00:32:27.000 So, he put himself under the command of the civil leaders of the revolution, and so that's where we have to follow the same model.

00:32:35.000 You don't have the military as soon as power is in control.

00:32:38.000 But you're right, it's also that if you do a military coup, that could be falling right into the hands of people who would love to disrupt the Constitution.

00:32:47.000 So they'd offer you this one problem here, and then they offer the solution, and the false solution is a military coup.

00:32:52.000 And you wind up going from the frying pan to the fire.

00:32:54.000 You still scrap the Constitution, it's gone.

00:32:56.000 And so now you're dependent upon whoever happens to be the general in charge.

00:32:59.000 So that's not how it's done in the recovery.

00:33:05.000 Absolutely.

00:33:05.000 Again, Stuart Rhodes obviously in a busy office today as we speak with him.

00:33:10.000 I've thrown out a lot of issues I want to discuss, and I've got some calls that I want to go to, but you're going to write a rebuttal to the article written by the former White House speechwriter John L. Perry for Newsmax.

00:33:24.000 We'd love to publish that at Infowars.com as soon as we get that, Stuart Rhodes.

00:33:29.000 But other issues that you're looking at right now, the military.

00:33:33.000 What is their mood?

00:33:35.000 What are the police saying?

00:33:36.000 When you write these articles about the New World Order for SWAT Magazine, what are the paramilitary local police saying?

00:33:45.000 Well, overwhelmingly, we get a positive response.

00:33:47.000 Of course, we're getting the people who like our message the most, but I think quite a few people in rank-and-file military and police are waking up.

00:33:55.000 And I've even heard from the grapevine that some generals who are behind what we're doing are aware of those keepers and are in agreement.

00:34:05.000 It's all about waking them up to what's going on in the big picture.

00:34:08.000 And once they see it, most of them are meant of honor and they'll be on our side.

00:34:14.000 And so that's why you shouldn't think, folks should not think that, oh, they're all going to follow orders, they're all going to do these things.

00:34:22.000 They're waking up now.

00:34:23.000 Of course, we get folks who write in after G20 and say, what about that?

00:34:29.000 If you're all going to keep it open, why did that happen?

00:34:32.000 Well, it's because we haven't reached those offices yet.

00:34:34.000 We just started.

00:34:35.000 You've got to give us a little bit of time.

00:34:36.000 You've got to help.

00:34:39.000 Don't just criticize us and say, well, that shows you're failing.

00:34:44.000 Go out and reach them before they get to the G20, before they get nationalized and sent someplace else across the country.

00:34:51.000 Well, Stuart, we also know that, and this has come out in COINTELPRO documents from the 60s and 70s, it's come out with Hal Turner running around saying, go after the feds when he wasn't.

00:35:02.000 The FBI admits it worked for them.

00:35:04.000 That there are people always calling for violence and always pushing violence and always saying, we're wimps, we're bad.

00:35:13.000 Ron Paul isn't doing enough.

00:35:14.000 Alex Jones isn't doing enough.

00:35:16.000 Stuart Rose isn't doing enough.

00:35:17.000 A lot of those people, it's turned out, are operatives paid to be online and to call into radio to just get everyone dissenting instead of saying, in less than a year, look how far Oath Keepers has gone.

00:35:30.000 In the last few years, look how the Ron Paul revolution's gone, towards auditing the Fed, identifying the real shadow government. 0.94

00:35:36.000 I mean, we are having huge victories, and this is basic military psychology, where the establishment's telling us we're losing, we have no hope, oh you're pathetic, or you're an agent, you're an agent. 0.76

00:35:49.000 They're just doing all of this to get people to hesitate.

00:35:55.000 Yeah, well, and also we have people who claim to be on our side who just don't understand the Constitution.

00:36:00.000 I've had people that, you know, email and say, when are you going to have a military march on Washington to stop, you know, vaccination of children?

00:36:07.000 You know, as though we have the authority to go do that.

00:36:10.000 You know, the mess, here's the thing, is that we are in a mess because the American people were stuck at the switch for decades.

00:36:17.000 And it's not up to the military and police to fix that.

00:36:20.000 Folks out there are going to have to get off the couch and go out and do it themselves.

00:36:23.000 Well, we need an asymmetrical approach.

00:36:25.000 If people will just put up flyers everywhere and hand out DVDs and go into every pharmacy and every school with the insert for the vaccine, saying it causes Guillain-Barre, saying it causes brain damage, saying it can sterilize you, saying it can give you cancer, it's on it. 0.59

00:36:41.000 If the average person would quit bitching at us for not doing enough and they would get up off their fat asses, and I'm sorry to talk like that and get out there and engage the new world order, our problems would be over very quickly.

00:36:53.000 That's right, well it's already working though. 0.97

00:36:55.000 You've got people now, nurses refusing the shot, you've got people who are refusing it because they realize it's dangerous.

00:37:01.000 And that's because we have the internet, we have YouTube, you know, we have your show.

00:37:04.000 It's already helping, but you're right.

00:37:07.000 The answer is to get out there and spread the message and help, not to criticize.

00:37:10.000 You know, criticize me for not doing enough, you know, or you.

00:37:14.000 You know, you're right.

00:37:16.000 But I'm telling you, nine times out of ten, we've tracked their IP addresses and stuff and test.

00:37:22.000 Most of these people are paid.

00:37:24.000 They're working for big foundations, or they're working for the government.

00:37:27.000 The Pentagon admits they're on the web, and they know how to get us fighting, and their best way to operate is to pose as, quote, conspiracy theorists, to get us in fighting with each other.

00:37:38.000 I mean, it's right out of the COINTELPRO playbook.

00:37:41.000 You know, I saw a thread on Daily Kos, in fact, where one guy was saying that he was advising other readers there to go to conservative sites and pretend they're a conservative and then use racist language.

00:37:53.000 Yeah, no, no, they do it.

00:37:54.000 They've been caught. 1.00

00:37:59.000 I mean, you see these ridiculous comments like, like, yeah, blacks are all scum and filth, and then the person still leaves their handle and you go find their MySpace account and it's a black guy. 1.00

00:38:13.000 And, you know, he's a big Obama supporter. 1.00

00:38:15.000 You're absolutely right.

00:38:16.000 They're doing that.

00:38:20.000 How do we counter that?

00:38:21.000 How do we counter that type of deception?

00:38:27.000 Well, I think, you know, sunlight's the best antidote, the best antiseptic.

00:38:30.000 You just expose it, like we're doing right now.

00:38:32.000 And folks shouldn't buy into it.

00:38:35.000 They should look with a jaundiced eye at anybody who's calling for violence.

00:38:39.000 That's how you pick the agent provocateur out.

00:38:41.000 That's the old joke.

00:38:42.000 It's the guy who's trying to get you to do something illegal.

00:38:46.000 Well they've caught agent provocateurs in Denver last year and Canada.

00:38:51.000 Mainstream news admits the police go and attack their own police for the news cameras and then no one goes to jail.

00:38:58.000 Shouldn't the commanders that gave those orders get in big trouble for ordering police to engage in false flag operations?

00:39:06.000 Well, I think so.

00:39:07.000 I think it's entrapment at the very least, you know.

00:39:11.000 But, as we know, it's been watered down.

00:39:14.000 The rules have been, the lines have been blurred and watered down for so long, we're going to have to try to counteract that bit by bit and officer by officer.

00:39:22.000 In fact, what the police commanders say when they get caught doing this from Canada to Australia to the United States, England, you name it, Italy, They got caught in Greece this year.

00:39:33.000 I'm sure you probably saw those newscasts where mainstream news admitted the police were dressed up as anarchists, being ordered by police in alleyways, it was caught on video, in uniform, to go bash out windows of cars and businesses to demonize the mainline protesters.

00:39:50.000 And the police said, oh, that was just a drill.

00:39:52.000 And so now when they go attack other cops on camera, for the news cameras, so they can attack the peaceful crowd, they go, oh that was just a drill.

00:40:00.000 That was just an exercise.

00:40:03.000 Right.

00:40:04.000 Well, I think the best thing you can do is that when you have that happen in a local police department, it's time for a new chief of police.

00:40:12.000 And if the mayor won't do that, then it's time to get rid of the mayor of the town.

00:40:16.000 You know, kind of let him out of office.

00:40:17.000 Obama was this great savior.

00:40:18.000 elect a good sheriff, too.

00:40:20.000 So that's the best short-term remedy, aside from reaching out to individual officers, is to, if you have a corrupt official who's not complying with the Constitution, you need to vote them out of office or have them canned.

00:40:35.000 Obama was this great savior.

00:40:40.000 He was invincible.

00:40:42.000 He was going to save the Earth.

00:40:44.000 And it doesn't matter if they make him head of the United Nations Security Council.

00:40:49.000 It doesn't matter if they give him all these awards to be the Nobel Peace Prize winner. 0.91

00:40:54.000 It seems the whole world is starting to really get wise that Obama's a fraud.

00:41:00.000 Well, it's like with the G20. 0.69

00:41:02.000 You know, that's where you saw the puppet masters coming together.

00:41:06.000 And, you know, frankly, everyone that protested at 9-12 in D.C.

00:41:10.000 should have been at G20.

00:41:12.000 That's who's really pulling the strings.

00:41:14.000 It's going to take a little bit of time to wake people up.

00:41:19.000 Of course, we're running out of time.

00:41:20.000 But the more they understand, it doesn't make a difference who's in office.

00:41:23.000 What counts is what agenda they're pushing.

00:41:25.000 If they're pushing the same agenda, it doesn't make a difference.

00:41:28.000 But you notice that the D.C.

00:41:32.000 event, there wasn't as much security.

00:41:34.000 But when the real masters came into town in Pittsburgh, it was off the charts.

00:41:39.000 In fact, that was an earlier question I had for you that I forgot to get back to after the break, Stuart.

00:41:43.000 Did you see the videos of people dressed in Army uniforms grabbing protesters off the street and putting them in cars and driving away?

00:41:52.000 Yes.

00:41:53.000 And then later the G20 came out and said those were our private security people?

00:41:57.000 Well, they said they were part of that multi-jurisdictional security force.

00:42:02.000 I believe those were police officers.

00:42:05.000 Yeah, G20 said they were part of their private security force, but so they're secret police.

00:42:10.000 I mean, what do you think that was about?

00:42:12.000 Well, I mean, what was it about to just grab a guy off the street like that?

00:42:17.000 Intimidation is one point.

00:42:19.000 If you black bag someone off the street, it makes everybody else on the street go, wow, I shouldn't be out here, you know.

00:42:25.000 So, but again, I was in D.C.

00:42:27.000 for the 9-12 protest, and the contrast between that and G20 is striking.

00:42:31.000 And then, of course, one problem is you have rock-throwing, you know, so-called anarchists at the G20, and that causes trouble for the other protesters.

00:42:38.000 But the answer, of course, for the police is to arrest the rock-throwers, not to pepper-spray and sound-canon everybody.

00:42:45.000 You got ten Foundation-funded brats out there throwing rocks. 1.00

00:42:45.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:42:51.000 You go arrest them, not the 2,000 peaceful people.

00:42:56.000 But the cops know that.

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00:46:25.000 Ron Paul slams Neocon Graham for angry white guy attack.

00:46:31.000 Neocon Lindsey Graham resorted to race pimping the other night when he attacked Congressman Ron Paul for representing angry white men, to which Paul responded on CNN by pointing out that Graham represents the exact opposite of true conservatism. 0.97

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00:47:01.000 Stuart Rhodes is our guest.

00:47:02.000 I do want to take some of your phone calls in this segment and the next.

00:47:04.000 And Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is going to be joining us.

00:47:08.000 We're going to go to Ronnie Scott and Karen here in just a moment.

00:47:12.000 But you do have your event coming up in Las Vegas, the first big annual event out there.

00:47:19.000 Tell us about that.

00:47:21.000 It's the first Oath Keepers National Convention, and we'll be having Sheriff Max speak, and we'll be having Lieutenant Commander Guy Cunningham hopefully speaking as well, and we're having a class on command structure by Action 50 Navy Lieutenant Commander David Gilley.

00:47:38.000 But the main point is to get together Oath Keeper leadership and those who are interested in helping with Oath Keepers and spreading the message.

00:47:44.000 It's pretty short notice, but if folks want to come, if you don't want to have a meal, all you want to do is attend the speakers events, it's only 50 bucks for the whole weekend.

00:47:52.000 So it's this next weekend, October 24th and 25th in Las Vegas at the Texas Station Hotel.

00:47:58.000 Oathkeepers.org to find out more.

00:48:03.000 And you don't have to be former military to be part of it, right?

00:48:06.000 No, you can go before military or police to help us spread the message.

00:48:10.000 You can be an associate member of Vote Keepers, or you don't even have to join.

00:48:13.000 Just come and learn about what we're doing and help us spread the message.

00:48:18.000 You bet.

00:48:19.000 You don't have to spend a dime if you don't want to.

00:48:20.000 Very, very exciting.

00:48:22.000 Let's talk to Ronnie in Texas.

00:48:24.000 Ronnie, you're on the air.

00:48:25.000 Go ahead.

00:48:27.000 Thank you, sir.

00:48:28.000 I'm honored to follow or concurrently we're with Mr. Rhodes of Vote Keepers.

00:48:33.000 And because I'm here now because I'm able to be here now, because I'm in effect banned from today's Austin City Council, which is totally counter to our First Amendment and these flip-flopping power-driven traitors at City Hall.

00:48:47.000 Sir, do you have a question or comment for Mr. Rhodes?

00:48:51.000 It's about Afghanistan and the blood of our troops overseas and our cops here at home.

00:48:58.000 The Afghanis have grown supposedly most of the world's opium, so our brave troops are now guarding those poppies, so as to show our nation's collective preference for one group of illegal drug thugs over some other group of illegal drug thugs. 0.99

00:49:13.000 And that's kind of my comment, but the comment is that, of course, that's the blood of our soldiers watering those crops.

00:49:20.000 But instead, my suggestion is, overnight, Obama could really earn this Nobel Peace Prize by unilaterally First, he'd have to defy a couple problematic treaties about drugs, but by declaring absolute freedom for farmers right here at home.

00:49:35.000 Think of it.

00:49:35.000 Suddenly, all illegal drug thugs worldwide will totally lose power and influence.

00:49:39.000 Ronnie, I hear you.

00:49:41.000 Listen, I'm going to let you go, because I wanted to go through the calls and the people that were for Stuart Rhodes, okay?

00:49:46.000 Not about legalizing hemp.

00:49:48.000 We talk about that all the time, and I appreciate your call.

00:49:53.000 God help us.

00:49:54.000 Let's talk to Scott in Arizona.

00:49:56.000 Scott, you're on the air.

00:49:57.000 Alex Stewart, thanks a lot.

00:49:59.000 Good day to you.

00:50:02.000 By the way, one quick insertion along with my question for Stewart.

00:50:05.000 You had a guy call earlier, was asking about prevention for problems, or if you've already had the flu shot.

00:50:10.000 Dr. Blalock put out an article on what to do if you've received the shot.

00:50:13.000 So that guy can go look that up online.

00:50:15.000 I think it's even on Mercola.

00:50:18.000 Also, I have spoken to the chief of police here in our town and He stated that, yes, he'd be open for receiving information, such as a lot of the stuff that's been put on your site, Alex, regarding the flu.

00:50:33.000 He has basically... I got a break.

00:50:37.000 I got a break.

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00:51:53.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:51:56.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is coming up.

00:52:06.000 Former editor of Wall Street Journal, former head of policy, Department of Treasury, to talk about the death of the dollar.

00:52:12.000 What is really happening right now?

00:52:14.000 Stuart Rhodes, founder of Oath Keepers, is our guest, and I'm attempting to take people's phone calls here for him.

00:52:22.000 Scott in Arizona, do you have a question for our guest?

00:52:25.000 Yeah, I do.

00:52:26.000 I would like for him to address possibly how to maybe take it a step further when it comes to The Chief of Police, maybe even, and also for whatever it's worth, I know the Chief of Police here talks a lot with the head of the Fire Department, too, and how he might suggest some in-routes to bring more awareness regarding violations of the Constitution, the flu issue, and one last thing to add to that, Alex, I think this would be an excellent, excellent way

00:52:53.000 For people to get the word out, whether it be copy your DVDs to give them out, or even do like the Sherry Tenpenny flyers.

00:53:00.000 I've handed them out at our school, but the other thing is, besides handing it out at your schools, Halloween!

00:53:06.000 Put a copy in every kid's basket and send it home and let the parents pick it out and read it and find it.

00:53:11.000 It's a national holiday.

00:53:12.000 We can expose this massively if people will go make the copies and put it in every single pumpkin that they get at their front door.

00:53:20.000 So, but extrapolate if you would please a little further on the Chief of Police and you know, talking to the Chief of Police about this.

00:53:25.000 I didn't know they were handing pumpkins out of people's doors.

00:53:28.000 Got kids dragging giant bags of pumpkins.

00:53:30.000 No, I mean you can give them the...

00:53:33.000 Absolutely.

00:53:33.000 the sugar candies or whatever, and then with it have the candy folded up in a note, a letter to them.

00:53:39.000 Thanks for the call.

00:53:40.000 Absolutely.

00:53:41.000 I mean, if we do what Scott's talking about, all of us should start interfacing with our fellow humans instead of just watching TV all day.

00:53:48.000 This tyranny will start dissipating.

00:53:51.000 Absolutely.

00:53:52.000 And on our website, you can go and find free PDF downloads of our brochures and push cards and just print them up on your home computer and hand them out.

00:54:03.000 And our DVD, we're going to start selling on our website too, but you can also get it through $1 DVD Project.

00:54:10.000 You'll get a DVD you can buy and burn it.

00:54:13.000 Take it home and burn it, copy it, and send it out.

00:54:16.000 We don't care about you copying our stuff.

00:54:18.000 And spread it around everywhere.

00:54:18.000 Go for it.

00:54:20.000 Let them know about Oath Keepers.

00:54:21.000 That's the best thing to do is get them to our website.

00:54:23.000 Then they read other officers talking to them face-to-face on our website, you know, in text and on video.

00:54:29.000 That's the strongest way.

00:54:30.000 But another thing to do in your local community is throw a big barbecue.

00:54:33.000 Throw a party, invite all the local police, all the local firefighters, and all the veterans, and get them to know each other and become friends.

00:54:41.000 That's the strongest thing you can do right now in your community is to make sure that you break down that wall of separation between the veterans and the police.

00:54:49.000 And call it a tea party, correct?

00:54:51.000 Call it whatever name you want, so it's what it is.

00:54:56.000 Patriotic and mainline.

00:54:58.000 Call it Veterans Appreciation Day or whatever, but invite the police and the firefighters to come together with the veterans.

00:55:05.000 Call it what you want.

00:55:08.000 Yeah, we're the real patriots.

00:55:09.000 Stop letting the offshore bankers and their little crooked groups, like the Southern Poverty Law Center and others, run around and say they're the patriots, and that because we're pro-America, we're the bad people.

00:55:20.000 No, we're the real Americans.

00:55:22.000 And I go back to Ron Paul earlier this year at CPAC, the big Republican convention, and Rush Limbaugh is the keynote speaker.

00:55:31.000 Ron Paul is one of the other key speakers.

00:55:34.000 And Ron Paul gets up and says, Republicans are anti-war, this war is a fraud.

00:55:38.000 He got a standing ovation.

00:55:40.000 Republicans, by and large, aren't a bunch of warmongers either.

00:55:43.000 I mean, that's the issue is, we have to take America back.

00:55:49.000 Right.

00:55:50.000 Stop waiting for someone else to do it.

00:55:51.000 So, you know, in your own local community, get up and do it.

00:55:54.000 Go do a big party in a local park.

00:55:57.000 Start some kind of event like that.

00:56:00.000 But the best way to do it, I think, is to first get them together and get them to understand that you're not their enemy.

00:56:07.000 And then after that, start talking to them.

00:56:09.000 Don't just come out of the blue, you know, to an average cop of the New World Order.

00:56:13.000 The best way to do it is to, you know, hold a soft sell up front.

00:56:16.000 It usually works better.

00:56:18.000 Well, I found it's also good, you know, just the carpet-bombing effect of just handing them DVDs, you know, just giving them to everybody. 0.94

00:56:27.000 The Obama Deception, Endgame, Terror Storm, that can break their conditioning as well.

00:56:32.000 Stuart Rhodes, keep it up, my friend.

00:56:35.000 The establishment looks like fools trying to demonize you because your organization is absolutely just Cut 100% to the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and we appreciate you and keep it up.

00:56:50.000 Thank you. 0.86

00:56:50.000 Hey Alex, one last thing. 0.86

00:56:52.000 We're doing a big drive for the troops, care packages for the troops, starting November 11th.

00:56:56.000 We'll have you back on then.

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00:59:49.000 They've run the system, the whole economic system of the world for the last two the whole economic system of the world for the last two and a half hundred So why shouldn't they also run the economic system for the next few hundred years?

01:00:13.000 So is this some sort of a new world order, which Gordon Brown kind of alluded to?

01:00:17.000 I think the new world order is emerging.

01:00:19.000 We have to stand up to preserve a republic here and a rule of law, which is under dire threat.

01:00:26.000 For a couple of hours, you could say Mr. Obama was president of the world.

01:00:31.000 Obama has made it quite clear by his actions, never mind his words, his actions, as to who owns him, who he works for, and who he serves, and it's not the American people. 0.89

01:00:43.000 Just as George W. Bush betrayed his foolish followers, so must Obama, because his only allegiance is to his offshore masters. 0.66

01:00:51.000 Summers tells Obama what to do. 0.97

01:00:54.000 Summers tells Geithner what to do.

01:00:56.000 So we had Snow, we had Paulson, now we have Geithner.

01:00:59.000 All these people cut from the same bowl of cloth. 0.91

01:01:01.000 All you folks don't even realize that you're helping people that you're associated with and should be recusing yourself.

01:01:08.000 Uh, I...

01:01:09.000 You know, I behaved with the, uh... You don't think you should have recused yourself?

01:01:15.000 Every time in history when a group of banks, in conjunction with the government, was given the power to expand the money supply at will, those economic systems always collapsed.

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01:01:32.000 The tune of $23,700,000,000,000 worth of taxpayer exposure for the bailouts is quite striking.

01:01:39.000 This is, by probably an order of magnitude, the biggest fraud in history.

01:01:48.000 Why would you need international bankers?

01:01:51.000 Why would any government agree to use them?

01:01:53.000 It's nothing more than a private, hostile, corporate takeover of every sovereign nation on Earth.

01:02:02.000 So for the first time in history, we really have this new form of an empire.

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01:02:48.000 We are joined until 45 after by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:02:52.000 Former head of policy, Department of Treasury under Ronald Reagan, best-selling author, former Wall Street Journal editor, and also a great patriot fighting just the corporate looting that's going on.

01:03:05.000 He's very critical of George W. Bush.

01:03:07.000 He hoped Obama would be better.

01:03:09.000 Obviously, he's now pointed out that Obama has already, in many cases, surpassed the tyranny of George Bush.

01:03:14.000 Now the outrage of Obama being given the Peace Prize when he's actually sent tens of thousands more troops to Afghanistan.

01:03:21.000 Continuing the torture, the secret arrest.

01:03:22.000 We'll talk about that, the deterioration in the dollar, where all of this is going.

01:03:28.000 Is the headline correct in major newspapers that I read earlier saying that already government central banks are moving to the majority in buying euros and other currencies as the reserve?

01:03:41.000 We are joined by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:03:43.000 Doc, it's good to have you here with us today.

01:03:45.000 Hey Alex!

01:03:47.000 So much is happening.

01:03:48.000 Let's get into Obama and where he's going and the Peace Prize and your take on that.

01:03:56.000 Well, they gave the Peace Prize to a warmonger, didn't they? 0.91

01:04:03.000 This is the guy who started a new war in Pakistan and who has increased The war in Afghanistan.

01:04:14.000 In fact, today there's a report on Antiwar.com that he's told the British he was going to send in 45,000 more Americans.

01:04:27.000 And this was part of his guarantee to them to get them to send a few hundred more troops.

01:04:37.000 You know, I wrote a column about it and said that it took longer than George Orwell thought to reach his version of 1984, but we've now reached it.

01:04:49.000 We've given the Peace Prize to the warmonger. 0.96

01:04:53.000 Now, the Noble Committee claims that, well, they made this decision two weeks after his election because of his rhetoric.

01:05:03.000 He was talking differently.

01:05:07.000 From Bush.

01:05:10.000 So they were hopeful that they could somehow give him the Peace Prize and make it harder for him to be a war monger. 0.97

01:05:20.000 That could work, but I think most likely all it's done is to make the slogan that Orwell has in 1984, War is Peace.

01:05:35.000 The reality for us, so now war is peace.

01:05:39.000 But it has seemed to have blown up in the Nobel Committee's face, and making him the head on the rotating board of the UN Security Council, trying to push him as this global peacemaker, when clearly he's continuing the exact agenda that we had under George W. Bush.

01:05:58.000 I mean, I think this is one of the straws that broke the camel's back, and I've seen that the Nobel Committee, as you mentioned, is now starting to backtrack and apologize.

01:06:05.000 And I did hear on local radio news, well, actually a national news feed, Fox News was reporting that, yes, he's confirmed that he's going to send 40 to 48,000.

01:06:15.000 You're saying anti-war has 45,000, whatever it is, over 40,000.

01:06:19.000 He sent more than 25,000 earlier.

01:06:22.000 He secretly sent 13,000 more.

01:06:24.000 That was confirmed.

01:06:25.000 And so he took 50,000 out of Iraq but then put 50,000 more contractors in.

01:06:32.000 And so I guess this gives new meaning to the word, you know, words over actions because we've got Code Pink now endorsing the war.

01:06:43.000 Huffington Post just endorsed more war.

01:06:45.000 And so now it's the liberal thing to do to go into the place that no army has ever defeated.

01:06:56.000 Right.

01:06:57.000 And of course, you know, The worst part about it is all the people there who will be killed.

01:07:05.000 We seldom kill any of the fighters.

01:07:09.000 Not that we have any right to kill them, because we've invaded them.

01:07:12.000 They haven't done anything to us. 0.98

01:07:14.000 But we mainly kill women and children and village elders. 0.99

01:07:21.000 It's just sort of a crazed act of murder.

01:07:26.000 That's all it is, like it was in Iraq. 0.59

01:07:30.000 If you count the displaced and the dead, they lost a fifth of the population and allegedly we did this to benefit them. 0.96

01:07:39.000 Well, how do you benefit people when you bring nothing but death and destruction?

01:07:45.000 What is the agenda?

01:07:46.000 What is the agenda?

01:07:47.000 Why are they expanding into Pakistan?

01:07:50.000 Is it to encircle Iran and China? 0.97

01:07:52.000 Is it to control the opium?

01:07:54.000 Is it for weapon sales?

01:07:56.000 The UNICOL pipelines?

01:07:58.000 They even admit, I saw CNN with a general admit there was a staged election.

01:08:03.000 I mean, I have to pinch myself every day.

01:08:06.000 What is the point?

01:08:07.000 More troops in Afghanistan means more targets.

01:08:10.000 Those warlords are always fighting with each other over the opium money.

01:08:14.000 It's never going to end.

01:08:15.000 That place has been in war for 2,300 years.

01:08:20.000 Why are we there?

01:08:23.000 Well, I can't say I know for sure.

01:08:27.000 We're there because of 9-11.

01:08:32.000 Which you and I regard as an inside job.

01:08:37.000 That was an excuse to start a war over there, but they really weren't mainly interested in Afghanistan.

01:08:43.000 They wanted to invade Iraq. 0.79

01:08:46.000 And so it was kind of a beginning of a war that they could spread where they really wanted it.

01:08:56.000 Now, of course, while we're staying there, probably the Israelis want us involved.

01:09:03.000 If we pull out of Afghanistan, then we might not attack Iran, or we may pull out of Iraq. 0.90

01:09:15.000 The whole thing that they stirred up with the neoconservatives, you know, would simply pass away and be for naught.

01:09:23.000 So I think the Israelis want to keep us there. 0.99

01:09:26.000 And, of course, the military itself does, because wartime is when you get the most rapid promotions.

01:09:32.000 Officers get promoted rapidly.

01:09:35.000 When they retire, they get much larger pensions.

01:09:39.000 The higher up they can get promoted, the better their chances to be consultants to the defense industries, to the Pentagon itself.

01:09:47.000 And so it serves the interest of the officer corps and, of course, the munitions.

01:09:54.000 The armaments industries, they give tremendous political contributions, and, of course, they're getting richer and richer from these ongoing wars.

01:10:04.000 And now we have McChrystal over there saying that he needs 10 more years.

01:10:12.000 So that turns it into, what, an 18-, 19-year-old war.

01:10:17.000 I mean, a lot of people can get rich, can get promoted, can retire and hire pensions.

01:10:24.000 And also you see the government, there's a lot of momentum now.

01:10:30.000 And how do you back out?

01:10:34.000 How do you stop?

01:10:36.000 They can't claim a victory.

01:10:38.000 There's nothing they can claim.

01:10:42.000 They don't want to defeat.

01:10:44.000 If Obama pulls out, we know exactly what the right-wing crazies will do.

01:10:49.000 And the neocons, they'll say, see, he's a Muslim. 0.72

01:10:52.000 He sold out the country to the Muslims. 1.00

01:10:56.000 He's turned Afghanistan back to al-Qaeda.

01:10:59.000 So all those just basic political things play in.

01:11:04.000 But once you make a serious error like going in there, you get so many interest groups and politics that it makes it hard To get out.

01:11:20.000 So I think probably we'll just expire there.

01:11:26.000 It's just going to be continual occupation of Central Asia for the foreseeable future. 1.00

01:11:31.000 You're right.

01:11:32.000 They're talking about a decade more.

01:11:34.000 That's 18 years.

01:11:35.000 It's like Germany. 0.93

01:11:36.000 We've been there since 45.

01:11:38.000 Never leaving.

01:11:39.000 Been in Korea for 50 years. 0.58

01:11:41.000 Never leaving.

01:11:43.000 More than 50 years.

01:11:44.000 And we pay for it.

01:11:46.000 And meanwhile, the weapons manufacturers make a bunch of money.

01:11:49.000 Our troops get killed.

01:11:51.000 But generals get to pin more ribbons on their chest.

01:11:54.000 We'll talk about the dollar.

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01:13:11.000 The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.

01:13:17.000 Well, Obama's already fudging.

01:13:19.000 He's fudged since day one in this election.

01:13:22.000 If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.

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01:15:01.000 The President of the United States has declared martial law under Executive Order 11004.

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01:16:24.000 guys are laughing because during the breaks, I do three and four minute radio interviews.

01:16:28.000 Just did one on 1360 AM in Dallas.

01:16:32.000 There is no doubt I'm the hardest working man in radio.

01:16:37.000 And one of the hardest working writers and researchers out there, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:16:41.000 Always honored to have him.

01:16:42.000 We've got him in this segment and the next.

01:16:43.000 This is a short segment.

01:16:44.000 Dr. Roberts, let's get into the dollar.

01:16:46.000 You know, I got the New York Post saying, dollar loses world reserve status and then says, chose the numbers that governments and central banks, even our own central banks, are converting away from the dollar being the main reserve, though they're still buying treasuries at record pace.

01:17:02.000 And I kind of ignore the New York Post, but then I see it in the Associated Press.

01:17:06.000 It appears the establishment is trying to kill the dollar while pushing us under the water, saying, oh, I don't want to kill it.

01:17:13.000 Here, I'm going to push you under. 0.99

01:17:15.000 You're an expert on this.

01:17:16.000 I can't think of a better expert, you know, running the Treasury Department, doing a great job when you did do it, about where we're going in all of this.

01:17:24.000 The banks are reporting record profits on the bailout money.

01:17:28.000 Main Street is evaporating before our eyes, and they're calling this a jobless recovery.

01:17:33.000 What is really going on, Dr. Roberts?

01:17:36.000 Okay, well, a whole bunch of things.

01:17:38.000 But first, for the dollar, what's going on is that since the spring, like in the last six months, it's been rapidly losing value.

01:17:47.000 And this is independent of any words that any central banker or policymaker would say.

01:17:57.000 Have you ever heard of the Botswana Pula?

01:18:02.000 Yes.

01:18:02.000 The Pula is the currency of Botswana.

01:18:06.000 And in the last six months, it has gained 14% in value against the dollar, the currency of the hegemonic superpower.

01:18:17.000 Did you know that Brazil's real has gained 22% against the dollar?

01:18:24.000 Or, to turn it around, the dollar has fallen 22% against the Brazilian currency?

01:18:32.000 Fallen 14% against the Botswana?

01:18:36.000 Pula?

01:18:37.000 We've fallen 11% against the Russian ruble.

01:18:41.000 And why is this happening?

01:18:45.000 It's happening because the accumulation of massive trade deficits over so many years has flooded the world with dollar assets.

01:18:56.000 And now the world is confronted with very large, massive Uh, federal budget deficits for this year, for next year.

01:19:07.000 Indeed, for the next 10 years, according to the latest CBO forecast.

01:19:14.000 And there's no way to finance those deficits.

01:19:18.000 In the past, we've financed our deficits by having our trading partners, who earn trade surpluses from our imports, recycling the dollars to buy the Treasury bonds.

01:19:32.000 The deficits now are much larger than our trade deficit, and so there's no source of financing.

01:19:44.000 We're getting some help from the fact that all the money we gave to the banks in the bailout, that some of this is being used to buy the Treasury bonds, but the world, for the most part, sees that the Federal Reserve is going to have to buy the bonds.

01:20:03.000 That means it has to monetize the debt.

01:20:05.000 It has to take the Treasury bonds and create checking accounts.

01:20:09.000 So the hyperinflation, in a nutshell, where is it going?

01:20:13.000 I mean, they've always talked about killing the dollar.

01:20:16.000 Now they're talking about how it's dying.

01:20:17.000 I mean, is this the beginning of the end?

01:20:19.000 Is there any pulling out?

01:20:22.000 I don't think they're going to be able to avoid the The decline of the dollar's value, it's already happening.

01:20:34.000 Look, it's approaching a parity with the Swiss franc, the Canadian dollar.

01:20:38.000 Anytime the dollar loses 14% against the Botswana Pula, you know that the writing is on the wall.

01:20:48.000 So, I think, right now, we're still undergoing deflation from The collapse of real estate values and commercial real estate values and a lot of just failed small businesses.

01:21:11.000 But you cannot monetize debt without the inflation rate turning up.

01:21:16.000 So I think next year we'll probably see the beginnings of inflation.

01:21:27.000 More pressure will come on the dollar because people will say, hey, I don't want to buy those bonds.

01:21:34.000 They're not paying anything.

01:21:35.000 They've got inflation.

01:21:37.000 And at some point, the Fed is going to be really trapped.

01:21:40.000 How can they raise interest rates to attract borrowers?

01:21:44.000 Doctors, stay there. 0.99

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01:21:46.000 Tell us about it when we get back.

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01:23:11.000 The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.

01:23:19.000 Well, Obama's already fudging.

01:23:21.000 He's fudged since day one in this election.

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01:25:19.000 Things are happening that are so big right now that I've been lately pointing out to listeners, I'm in above my head.

01:25:28.000 But I'm not a man.

01:25:30.000 The good news is, I was in LAX, had police come over that were fans again yesterday, leaving Austin, TSA that were fans again, people on the streets of LA, fans everywhere, listeners are saying they talked to their neighbors, they're already listening or have seen my films, and I'm just one little Gage, Weathervane, and all of this.

01:25:52.000 And I'm getting so much coverage and so much attention that it's quite humbling, actually.

01:25:58.000 I'm going to be honest, I don't like it.

01:26:00.000 I like having an effect against the globalists, but the responsibility, and I'm not cracking under it, I'm just trying to grow up a little bit, because I mean, I never intended To be, you know, globally getting as big as Ron Paul.

01:26:15.000 It's very, very humbling, and then I'm trying to make sure I'm accurate, I do a good job.

01:26:22.000 But I guess in what I'm saying here, and I want Dr. Roberts' comment on this and we'll get back into the dollar, is people are waking up everywhere.

01:26:29.000 I'm on a bunch of big European radio stations today, U.S.

01:26:32.000 radio stations, hundreds of interviews coming in a week, I can't even do a tenth of them.

01:26:37.000 I know Dr. Roberts is in demand everywhere.

01:26:39.000 I know he's seeing a big awakening.

01:26:43.000 But at the same time, it doesn't matter if everybody's waking up.

01:26:47.000 To a certain extent, the establishment is going hell-bent for leather and are committed, and no matter what, it looks like they're going to kill the dollar.

01:26:55.000 As he said, it's already happening.

01:26:58.000 Folks, do you know what this is going to look like?

01:27:01.000 When not just we have inflation, but we can't buy foreign goods anymore because nobody wants our cruddy dollars, and we don't have any industry left, and we've got a police state arrogantly stomping around Dr. Roberts, I'm ranting here, but can you extract something from what I've said and give me your take on it?

01:27:18.000 I mean, I'm just, I'm getting to the point where I feel overwhelmed.

01:27:22.000 Yeah, well, all those things you mentioned, or the paths we're going down, I think they're going to get, you know, in this next year, something is going to happen to push up interest rates.

01:27:38.000 Either domestic inflation from money creation, Or the inability of the Treasury to borrow at these extremely low interest rates.

01:27:53.000 And when that happens, then the economy, which is already suffering despite practically zero interest rates, will suffer more.

01:28:04.000 And the unemployment rate measured the way it was measured when I was in the Treasury is now 21%.

01:28:11.000 So, it can go a lot higher.

01:28:13.000 In the meantime, the corporations are continuing to offshore jobs, they're continuing to bring in foreigners on work visas, and the high rates of legal immigration continue, so that there are more and more people competing for fewer jobs.

01:28:31.000 So, this has to bring even more pressure on the American people.

01:28:41.000 Well, they're already suffering.

01:28:42.000 Look, you see, today or yesterday, it was reported that the investment banks are making so much money, they're back to those massive bonuses.

01:28:54.000 And it says that Goldman Sachs is going to give an average payout of 500,000 pounds, British pounds.

01:29:02.000 That's $800,000.

01:29:07.000 To each of its 5,500 London staff.

01:29:14.000 The senior executives are going to get bonuses of several million pounds, and the top one's 10 million pounds.

01:29:23.000 That's $16 million.

01:29:24.000 So they're paying out these kinds of bonuses while New York City, for example, now has record homelessness with 16,000 kids and homeless Shelters, it's so bad, the city's giving free one-way airline tickets, trying to get the homeless to fly out the city.

01:29:46.000 Detroit is completely collapsing.

01:29:49.000 Detroit.

01:29:51.000 But look, here is the telltale sign.

01:29:54.000 New York's 5th Avenue.

01:29:57.000 One of the most famous shopping meccas in the world.

01:30:00.000 It's now got a 15.3% vacancy rate.

01:30:05.000 On 5th Avenue in prime commercial real estate, John Williams reported today that when you look at retail sales adjusted for inflation, currently they are at the level of 10 years ago.

01:30:23.000 He says that 10 years worth of retail sales growth has been destroyed.

01:30:30.000 And he, you know, and I agree with him that this The crisis is just starting.

01:30:36.000 It's not really even well underway.

01:30:39.000 And that's the question for you, sir.

01:30:41.000 So the slide you're saying, and everybody else is now saying, you were talking about dollar in trouble three years ago.

01:30:47.000 Now it's mainstream news.

01:30:47.000 They weren't.

01:30:49.000 Is it a slow slide into third world oblivion?

01:30:52.000 Or is it going to come quicker and faster?

01:30:57.000 And what are the people going to do as New York State has passed 84 new taxes I was reading last week in the last year?

01:31:05.000 The government just keeps growing.

01:31:08.000 The government keeps adding people.

01:31:12.000 Everybody I know is having really, you know, seeing cuts in pay or losing their jobs.

01:31:17.000 And the media is saying the economy is recovered.

01:31:19.000 I mean, where is this going?

01:31:24.000 You know, we don't have, you know as well as I do, we don't have a media.

01:31:27.000 The media serves as the ministry of truth, or the ministry of propaganda, you know.

01:31:32.000 And whatever it says is unbelievable.

01:31:39.000 Other than the trouble of the dollar, which is in oversupply, we have another amazing fact, and that is, for all of this decade, they kept the economy going by growing consumer debt.

01:31:53.000 We've talked about this before.

01:31:54.000 Well, now the consumers are all drowning in debt, and they can't take on any more.

01:32:00.000 So, there's no way to expand consumer spending.

01:32:04.000 You know, in the old days, consumer spending grew with the productivity of the workforce, but we still had industry and jobs here.

01:32:14.000 So, people would be more productive, their real incomes would go up, they could spend more.

01:32:19.000 That was the source of economic growth.

01:32:21.000 For all the 21st century, the source of growth was driving the consumers deeper into debt, so they would borrow the money to keep the spending going.

01:32:30.000 They would max out the credit cards.

01:32:32.000 They took out home equity loans and spent the equity, and now that's stopped, so there's no way to get the consumer economy going except for the bankers, who are going to get these huge bonuses, of course, the armaments industries.

01:32:51.000 Except the super-rich, the Americans don't have any income growth.

01:32:56.000 And now they're faced, like you said, with more taxes.

01:33:01.000 Because the states are broke, the counties are broke, the cities are broke, and the federal government is broke.

01:33:08.000 So they're going to be forced into lower standards of living.

01:33:15.000 And it's going to be really hard on the very poor.

01:33:19.000 But it's going to be hard on everybody, and I don't know whether it will radicalize the people or whether the government will succeed in blaming Al Qaeda or terrorists or Iranians or Russians or whoever.

01:33:34.000 I don't know what capacity the people have to realize what's being done to them.

01:33:42.000 Well, that was my next question.

01:33:43.000 Is the media now saying Iran is killing the dollar?

01:33:47.000 I mean, you just mentioned it.

01:33:47.000 I'm sure you've seen that.

01:33:49.000 And they're saying the Russians and Chinese are doing it. 0.67

01:33:51.000 But I read what the Russians and Chinese and the Arabs are saying and the Persians are saying.

01:33:56.000 They're going, look, all these countries, we keep buying your dollars.

01:34:00.000 We're losing 10 percent on this in the last year.

01:34:03.000 Your central banks have engaged in the policies that are doing this.

01:34:07.000 Please stop.

01:34:09.000 And then, meanwhile, the Federal Reserve comes out and blames them when they're the very group doing it.

01:34:15.000 See, I don't think anybody's trying to kill the dollar on purpose.

01:34:15.000 Right.

01:34:19.000 I think the dollar's being killed because of the hubris and stupidity of the American policymakers. 1.00

01:34:26.000 And the rest of the world sits there and watches this and says, well, look, they're going to kill it. 1.00

01:34:31.000 They won't listen.

01:34:32.000 There's nothing we can do.

01:34:33.000 So let's be prepared and have something to use when they succeed. 1.00

01:34:38.000 And through hubris and stupidity and killing the currency. 1.00

01:34:41.000 Exactly! 1.00

01:34:42.000 That's what they're saying.

01:34:43.000 They're saying when America goes down, it's going to be like a hydrogen bomb, devastating all the other economies.

01:34:50.000 It's just we're going to be in the middle of the smoldering crater in the worst position.

01:34:54.000 Doctor, what will this look like?

01:34:56.000 Being a top economist, one of the top economists out there in the world, recognized.

01:35:00.000 I mean, we've seen this in other countries, other permutations.

01:35:04.000 What's the best guess timeline on where this is going?

01:35:07.000 Because, you know, two years ago you hoped they would pull out.

01:35:09.000 They're clearly, it looks like you're saying, aren't going to.

01:35:12.000 So what's the trajectory and what do you expect this to look like in two years?

01:35:18.000 Well, I think it's going to be the hardest on the Americans.

01:35:20.000 Because, as you said, we won't be able to pay for the imports.

01:35:23.000 And we're very import dependent.

01:35:26.000 Not just on energy, but on manufactured goods and advanced technology products.

01:35:31.000 And if you can't pay For your energy imports, then that disrupts food deliveries and people's ability to get to the jobs.

01:35:40.000 You know, we have this sort of urban-suburban culture where people drive for an hour one way to jobs and back, and so it's all kinds of problems brewing there.

01:35:53.000 I think it won't be all that terrible for other countries.

01:35:59.000 China, of course, may lose a lot of its Uh, the value of a lot of its foreign exchange reserves, which are in dollars, but I don't know that that will particularly hurt them because they've got the technology, they've got the industry, the paper isn't that important to them.

01:36:17.000 And so you may know that Robert Fisk reported from Lebanon last week that China, Russia, including Japan and France and the Gulf Arab oil interests are already devising a substitute for the dollar when it goes.

01:36:41.000 Now, when it goes, no one really knows.

01:36:45.000 This gives a timeline of nine years.

01:36:49.000 I myself don't see how the dollar could possibly survive as a world reserve currency for nine more years.

01:37:00.000 What is going to happen when the dollar loses its status, it's going to put a brake on the ability of the United States to conduct wars.

01:37:12.000 And so, we may actually get some peace as a payoff from the collapse of the dollar, because American power will collapse with it.

01:37:24.000 And I think that's what the rest of the world sees, and I think that's why

01:37:29.000 They're not particularly disturbed by the decline in the dollar, because what they are disturbed by is the American way of being a bully, of being hegemonic, of ordering people around, of purchasing the leaders of foreign countries so that the leaders represent us rather than their own people.

01:37:58.000 People are tired of that.

01:37:59.000 You know, all the threats that we are always issuing to everybody, not just to Iran, but to everybody.

01:38:06.000 Well, look at how they're trying to use the military.

01:38:08.000 Look at the G20.

01:38:09.000 Look at how they're openly deploying.

01:38:11.000 Now the Pentagon wants 379,000 troops domestically.

01:38:15.000 And in closing here, Doctor, I want to say bye to you in the break because I have a question for you off air.

01:38:22.000 The establishment is certainly full of hubris, the private banking establishment running all these Ponzi schemes, but at the same time they're gearing up the prisons.

01:38:31.000 They're telling local police get ready for riots.

01:38:34.000 They've been doing this the last couple years.

01:38:35.000 They're clearly getting the infrastructure ready for the implosion in the United States.

01:38:41.000 So I think that shows there's a method to the madness.

01:38:44.000 And that they've got some tricks up their sleeves, as the Rand Corporation document said last year.

01:38:50.000 Start a big new world war.

01:38:52.000 Somehow they've got a trick.

01:38:54.000 The Anglo-American establishment, allied with Israel, has tricks up their sleeves. 0.59

01:39:01.000 And it looks like that's going to be war or giant false flags.

01:39:05.000 Your take on that?

01:39:06.000 Well, the only way they can have war is if the foreigners left to finance it. 0.98

01:39:11.000 We can't finance it with no money.

01:39:13.000 I mean, the current budget is 50% in the red.

01:39:19.000 So, I think, you know, I do agree with you that they've got SWAT teams everywhere domestically.

01:39:27.000 I see them even in these small mountain towns in North Georgia.

01:39:31.000 They've got SWAT teams, which they don't need for any real reason.

01:39:35.000 And so, I do think they expect that things are going to Get rough for them.

01:39:42.000 And, you know, Gerald Solanti and others are predicting that there are going to be riots and there's going to be a revolution.

01:39:51.000 And I think if the unemployment continues to rise, which I think it will do next year, there's going to be a lot of unrest and gangs and looting.

01:40:09.000 Because people are going to be so hard-pressed, you know.

01:40:13.000 In the old days, the Depression, when people lost their jobs, prices were falling.

01:40:19.000 It's different.

01:40:20.000 If you lose your job, prices are rising.

01:40:24.000 And so I think they've managed to fix a situation, a critical situation, that's too big for them to handle.

01:40:32.000 And I'm not sure they can handle The American population, look, just remember they could not successively occupy Baghdad. 0.96

01:40:43.000 The United States is a big place.

01:40:45.000 It's a lot bigger than Afghanistan. 0.95

01:40:48.000 That's why they're trying to recruit the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts to spy on people right now.

01:40:52.000 But I agree, it's not going to go well and it's a disaster.

01:40:55.000 It's like watching a train wreck as it's starting and we're watching it derail and cars are flipping over and people are flying out and the general public's still in a trance.

01:41:05.000 I think a lot of them are starting to wake up, as I talked about earlier.

01:41:08.000 Uh, but people are waking up, but they don't know what to do, and I don't know what to do, because we know what the establishment's done, we know what they're setting up, and they don't care.

01:41:20.000 They're just committed.

01:41:22.000 Well, it could well be.

01:41:23.000 We'll find ourselves ruled by the IMF.

01:41:25.000 in front of us.

01:41:27.000 And I think, like Ron Paul has said, we've just got to identify who did it so that they don't use this crisis to get even more power.

01:41:34.000 And then hopefully this crisis, like a fever, will get rid of this disease and then we can rebuild our country, kind of like after the collapse of Russia. 0.57

01:41:42.000 Your final comment on that, Doctor?

01:41:44.000 Well, it could well be.

01:41:46.000 We'll find ourselves ruled by the IMF.

01:41:49.000 We'll be under an IMF austerity plan, forcing us to balance our exports, imports Forcing us to balance our budgets.

01:41:59.000 The sort of thing that we've done to lesser developed countries for decades.

01:42:04.000 So this may be what we face in the future. 1.00

01:42:07.000 The world may say we've had enough of you and your stupidity and all the trouble you've caused everybody. 1.00

01:42:13.000 And now, you're going to do as we say. 1.00

01:42:15.000 Or you're not going to have any gas nor oil.

01:42:21.000 So that may be our future.

01:42:23.000 They may put us into the box that we belong in.

01:42:29.000 Wow.

01:42:31.000 He's a best-selling author of... Tell us about the newest version of your book, Doctor.

01:42:36.000 I just had a second printing, so it's still available.

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01:42:52.000 All the things you talk about.

01:42:53.000 And it's the tyranny of good intentions.

01:42:57.000 We'll be right back.

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01:46:11.000 I got it.

01:46:12.000 Hey! 0.99

01:46:12.000 Look, this doesn't have to happen. 0.99

01:46:18.000 We don't have to live under this tyranny.

01:46:21.000 We can wake up.

01:46:22.000 We can say no.

01:46:24.000 I know the average person in government isn't evil.

01:46:27.000 I know the average American out on the street isn't a bad person.

01:46:30.000 But you've got to get as knowledgeable about the geopolitical things that are happening, the international finance developments, as you are about football and baseball and acting cool.

01:46:40.000 Believe me, I like going to a football game.

01:46:43.000 If I start watching sports, I get into it within days and then I'm addicted.

01:46:47.000 But I have to be addicted with real issues, folks.

01:46:50.000 We're gonna get hurt real bad.

01:46:51.000 We're being hurt real bad right now.

01:46:53.000 But I mean, stuff that makes the Great Depression look tame.

01:46:57.000 90% of this country was agrarian.

01:47:00.000 90% of this nation was rural.

01:47:03.000 In 1929 to 1940 during the Great Depression, 90% lived in the country and the majority of them were self-sufficient.

01:47:11.000 Around 80% were self-sufficient.

01:47:13.000 The studies I've seen, 90% lived in the country, 10% in the cities.

01:47:17.000 Ninety percent now, or right at eighty-nine, there's actually been a flight to the country by some smart people, but eighty-nine percent, if you want to get technical on last year's numbers, the latest, now live in the cities.

01:47:29.000 Eighty-nine percent.

01:47:30.000 Eleven percent live in the country, but only about half of that eleven percent, five and a half percent, are self-sufficient.

01:47:37.000 Now, what do you think's going to happen if society collapses like the Great Depression?

01:47:43.000 People are not as moral as they were then?

01:47:46.000 People will steal you blind in a minute.

01:47:49.000 The government isn't going to be there to help you.

01:47:52.000 If you've got money and land and two pennies rubbed together, the cops are going to have you by the ankles shaking the change out of your pockets.

01:47:59.000 I mean, that's what they're doing now.

01:48:03.000 This is not a game.

01:48:04.000 I keep stressing that and stressing that and stressing it and stressing it.

01:48:13.000 And I want you to have a sense of urgency.

01:48:15.000 I mean, I'm totally exhausted.

01:48:16.000 I got home at 3.30 last night, got in bed at 4, got up at 8 after a hard shoot yesterday with Jesse Ventura.

01:48:25.000 I'm not complaining, but I'm here.

01:48:27.000 Four hours.

01:48:27.000 And then I'm doing two hours of radio after this today.

01:48:31.000 Two hours of radio.

01:48:33.000 And I feel guilty when I don't take... Literally, lately, it's been ten interviews a day we're turning down.

01:48:40.000 I mean, it's just massive.

01:48:41.000 I'm only the biggest.

01:48:43.000 I am exhausted.

01:48:44.000 I want to go to bed right now.

01:48:46.000 I want to go eat dinner and see my family.

01:48:48.000 I'm not going to.

01:48:49.000 Because, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not going to have it said that I didn't do everything I could.

01:48:54.000 Now, you don't have to save the world by yourself.

01:48:59.000 But you better put some flyers up.

01:49:01.000 You better talk to your neighbors.

01:49:02.000 You better call in the local talk radio, or start your own show, or do an access show.

01:49:07.000 Because the people are ready to hear the truth now, but most of them don't know.

01:49:12.000 Most Americans are so passive, they don't even know who movie stars are, much less sports people, much less their politicians, much less what fractional reserve banking is.

01:49:24.000 Folks, total collapse of society.

01:49:27.000 It's guaranteed now that there's basically no way to even get out of it.

01:49:31.000 All we can hope to do is warn everybody we can about who did it, because these globalists are going to use the crisis they created to bring even more tyranny in.

01:49:42.000 This is a hot tyranny they've set up.

01:49:44.000 I mean, a bloody one. 0.75

01:49:45.000 one.

01:49:45.000 It's a bad one.

01:49:45.000 We're trying to just save this country and save the dollar.

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01:50:00.000 Please make copies of it.

01:50:01.000 Pre-order it now.

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01:50:04.000 It's coming out next Wednesday, six days away.

01:50:07.000 Six days away from Fall of the Republic.

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01:50:12.000 You'll be able to watch it first at PrisonPlanet.tv in super high quality.

01:50:16.000 Burn it to DivX.

01:50:17.000 Give it to people. 0.96

01:50:18.000 Please!

01:50:19.000 Because if we don't cause a massive awakening, and it's starting to happen, that makes it even more frustrating because we can really win and beat these people if you take action now.

01:50:28.000 Call the Republic.

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01:50:30.000 Don't wait.

01:50:31.000 Spread the word about the show.

01:50:32.000 Keep warning folks.

01:50:33.000 We're having a big effect.

01:50:35.000 Great job, crew.

01:50:36.000 Retransmission starts now.

01:50:39.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

Alex Jones Show - October 15, 2009

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