Alex Jones Show - 20100113_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Coming up in the next hour, We have a member of the Icelandic parliament who's leading the charge against not letting the British government, through banking fraud, take over their nation.

00:00:41.000 This is economic criminal conquest.

00:00:43.000 They've used anti-terror laws to seize the bank accounts of the entire nation.

00:00:48.000 Now, this is just unbelievably outrageous.

00:00:51.000 That's coming up.

00:00:51.000 And Catherine Austin Fitz, the hour after that.

00:00:54.000 We're simulcasting three hours of the four-hour radio show today, visually, as we do every day, at PrisonPlanet.tv for all the PrisonPlanet.tv viewers out there tuning in.

00:01:07.000 We are simulcasting now.

00:01:09.000 For the rest of the hour, Tyrell Ventura, son of Jesse Ventura.

00:01:16.000 He's a filmmaker in his own right.

00:01:18.000 Also is involved in a lot of other media production.

00:01:23.000 He is an associate producer on the show, did a lot of the research.

00:01:27.000 He's the guy that first primed the pump with his dad four or five years ago, about 9-11.

00:01:32.000 And then when I first met Jesse Ventura four years ago and gave him Terror Storm and some other films about government-sponsored terror, he said, yeah, my son's introduced me to this.

00:01:41.000 And so that helped break the ice and get him further informed about what was happening, leading us today to the number one news show on TruTV, record ratings for a new show, Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura.

00:01:56.000 And so very, very exciting.

00:01:57.000 We'll talk about his favorite last six episodes, this final episode of the first season.

00:02:04.000 It'll be internal politics if it doesn't get picked up for another even longer season.

00:02:10.000 Again, incredibly successful.

00:02:12.000 Even the major trade publications are reporting that.

00:02:15.000 Record ratings.

00:02:16.000 How did this get on air?

00:02:19.000 So many facets to discuss with Tyrell Ventura.

00:02:22.000 Then we'll also get the inside scoop on does he think his dad will run for president in 2012 and what that might look like.

00:02:30.000 But that's coming up later in the interview.

00:02:32.000 We'll also open the phones up some for your specific questions about the show Conspiracy Theory on TruTV.

00:02:38.000 The final episode of the seven-part series airing tonight 9 p.m.

00:02:42.000 Central Well, it's happy to be here, man.

00:02:44.000 Of course, 10 p.m. Eastern.

00:02:45.000 And they always air last week's episode in the hour before.

00:02:50.000 So that'll be 8 o'clock Central, 9 o'clock Eastern, if you missed that, the lead-in coming up tonight.

00:02:55.000 We're going to break in a moment, Tyrell, but first off, going to you, it's great to have you with us.

00:03:00.000 It's happy to be here, man.

00:03:02.000 Thank you for all the help you've given us in the production of the show and for coming on and giving Jesse a good format to use, you know, voice his opinion.

00:03:11.000 Well, I want to thank you for including me in the show I want to thank your father, the producer, the creator, for keeping his word and really having this be a fair, fact-finding show where Jesse really goes out.

00:03:26.000 I mean, what you're seeing is what happens.

00:03:28.000 This is real.

00:03:29.000 And to be part of something real and trailblazing on TV, this is groundbreaking.

00:03:35.000 I love the fact that we are, you know, so many shows you watch like the History Channel, National Geographic, and all that, they immediately go to the kind of government-sponsored sense of history, and it was kind of nice, refreshing for all of us to work on a show that's, you know, let's give all these other ideas a chance.

00:03:51.000 Let's not follow the status quo and let's go and find things that no one's talking about in mainstream media and put them on TV.

00:03:58.000 A lot of credit for TruTV for having the guts and the fun to stand behind this and put us on the air.

00:04:07.000 Tyrell, I don't know how you did it.

00:04:10.000 Your father, Jesse Ventura, had a bet going that it wouldn't air.

00:04:13.000 He was glad to be proven wrong with the production staff.

00:04:16.000 I mean, you guys put incredible amounts of work and research, and this was a big gamble for you guys to do this, and it's been successful, so I commend you.

00:04:25.000 Thank you, thank you.

00:04:26.000 But yeah, we had a great production staff.

00:04:29.000 We worked tirelessly all summer and fall to put this thing together.

00:04:33.000 It took a long time and a lot of convincing and a lot of different edits and a lot of that to get the show the way it is now.

00:04:40.000 And we're all happy with it.

00:04:43.000 We couldn't be happier with the ratings and everything else.

00:04:45.000 We've got the fan mail coming in.

00:04:48.000 Thank you for everyone for believing in the show and watching it.

00:04:50.000 It's been a wild ride to get this stuff on the air.

00:04:54.000 It feels good to finally have it out there.

00:04:56.000 Absolutely.

00:04:57.000 Tyrell Ventura, stay there.

00:04:59.000 We're coming right back.

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00:06:05.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

00:06:09.000 As we're finishing off this agenda, we're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.

00:06:14.000 We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

00:06:20.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?

00:06:23.000 Bernanke?

00:06:23.000 They're arsonists!

00:06:24.000 They're asking for more matches!

00:06:25.000 The whole of the republic identifies the enemies of our nation.

00:06:28.000 The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.

00:06:35.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.

00:06:37.000 They're asking for more matches.

00:06:39.000 And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?

00:06:41.000 Today seems like nobody does care.

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00:08:00.000 Do you believe everything you've been told?

00:08:04.000 Ever feel like you're being watched?

00:08:06.000 Do you think the government is concealing vital information?

00:08:10.000 I've heard things that'll blow your mind.

00:08:12.000 Now, one man has the guts to seek the truth.

00:08:16.000 I've been a governor, a fighter, a Navy SEAL.

00:08:20.000 Jesse Ventura is not afraid to take on the institutions he was once a part of.

00:08:25.000 This is what they don't want me to see.

00:08:27.000 And this Wednesday, the team heads north to investigate secrets in the Arctic tundra.

00:08:32.000 What are they hiding up there in Alaska?

00:08:35.000 The project is called HAARP.

00:08:37.000 Its function?

00:08:38.000 Classified.

00:08:39.000 What do you think they're doing down there?

00:08:41.000 They tell us we're up here studying the Northern Lights.

00:08:44.000 You don't study the Northern Lights for 25 years.

00:08:46.000 Come on.

00:08:47.000 What type of offensive weapon does HAARP have the potential to be?

00:08:52.000 Not only, you know, can they manipulate weather, but the idea of knocking aircraft out of the sky and leaving no residual damage.

00:08:58.000 But in order for Jesse to find the truth, he must see it for himself.

00:09:02.000 What you're saying to me is scary.

00:09:04.000 Just over the ridge, it comes into view.

00:09:07.000 There it is.

00:09:08.000 Wow.

00:09:08.000 It's huge.

00:09:09.000 You have a lot of antennas there.

00:09:19.000 Now that Jesse and his team have seen the facility with their own eyes, it's time for them to confront the people that run it head-on.

00:09:26.000 Now you did formally call them.

00:09:29.000 We called this facility.

00:09:30.000 We called the Air Force directly.

00:09:32.000 The installation is open to the public.

00:09:35.000 But no one is allowed in.

00:09:36.000 And just as the former governor approaches the gate, he's stopped.

00:09:40.000 Come on, man.

00:09:41.000 I'm a Navy SEAL.

00:09:42.000 When I get denied something, I do the opposite of getting intimidated.

00:09:46.000 I get angry.

00:09:47.000 Jesse is about to walk right on through, when suddenly...

00:09:51.000 Hold on a second, guys.

00:09:52.000 I got a problem.

00:09:53.000 The camera equipment begins to fail.

00:09:55.000 The crew suspects they are being targeted with powerful radio waves.

00:09:59.000 This is more than unclassified. 0.97

00:10:01.000 That's bull****. 0.97

00:10:02.000 You won't believe what happens next. 0.98

00:10:05.000 Find out on Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura.

00:10:09.000 Premieres Wednesday at 10, only on TruTV.

00:10:12.000 Now, that was the first episode.

00:10:14.000 The last episode in the first series is airing tonight.

00:10:17.000 Tyrell Ventura, one of the associate producers, researchers, camera guy.

00:10:21.000 I mean, working so hard on this project because he's the guy that woke his dad up.

00:10:27.000 He's a conspiracy theorist.

00:10:29.000 Those of us that question the official story are called that.

00:10:32.000 Tyrell, tell us about the episode coming up tonight.

00:10:36.000 Tonight we've got 2012, and we've kind of started with all the rumblings of the whole plastic calendar and all that, but then as we kind of were, you know, we were kind of at first like, uh, sounds a little hocus-pocus, but then we started kind of like looking in, you know, to the idea that, okay, what if, you know, some major catastrophe is on the horizon and the powerful elite know about it, and, you know, will they let, you know, would your government let the people know about it ahead of time, or would they just set out to protect themselves?

00:11:05.000 And so it kind of ventured into that realm, and it's a great episode.

00:11:09.000 You know, it's a great way to finish the season, and it's pretty frightening for the things we find out.

00:11:15.000 You've got to watch it tonight and see the things that we've uncovered and the places that we've spent Jesse in this episode.

00:11:21.000 It's a fun one.

00:11:23.000 Talking to you and your father and some of the other researchers early on, you guys thought that a lot of what we're hearing about 2012 is baloney, and clearly there's a lot of hype, a thousand different views, and ideas about what's coming up with 2012.

00:11:38.000 But then, after you guys did your investigation, I don't want to give away too much for tonight, you got convinced that, well, the government and rich people clearly think something's going on, and they are getting ready.

00:11:51.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:11:52.000 And I've talked to numerous friends of mine in like Big Oil and things like that, you know, like acquaintances I have out here living in Los Angeles who are kind of around a lot of power and money, especially in the film industry.

00:12:01.000 And if you ask them, you talk to some of those guys and they'll tell you about like, oh yeah, you know, I might have a compound built here and that kind of thing.

00:12:08.000 And you're kind of like, But for what purpose?

00:12:10.000 And it's like, well, to keep us protected, but then, you know, they'll never follow through the chain of thought of, well, why?

00:12:15.000 What do you know that I don't know?

00:12:18.000 And that's what this episode's kind of about.

00:12:20.000 I mean, it's not specifically that the world's going to end in 2012, but if a catastrophic event were to face the world, you know, who's going to get protected?

00:12:29.000 Not you or me.

00:12:30.000 You know, they're not going to... I don't think they'd care about protecting us.

00:12:33.000 I think they'd care more about, you know, protecting their own power and influence.

00:12:41.000 Well, exactly.

00:12:42.000 In Switzerland, they have well-appointed facilities with food and water underground for their entire population for at least two years.

00:12:53.000 Russia has it for their entire population for at least a year.

00:12:57.000 Other nations have this, but growing up in Dallas, they designate the underground car garages as nuclear fallout shelters, but our government has spent more than all these other governments combined on its own secret bases and underground facilities, and the public isn't even allowed to know about it.

00:13:16.000 The public...

00:13:16.000 is told if we get attacked or an asteroid hits or a bioweapon gets released or a chemical weapon gets released, sorry, you're out of luck, you're dead.

00:13:25.000 And that, of course, giving people an idea is what this episode gets into.

00:13:29.000 I mean, this is such an important subject, and that's what's so amazing.

00:13:32.000 You guys set out to investigate these modern issues that the media calls conspiracy theories, and on issue after issue, you actually find out the real truth and come to the same perspective that I've got from deep research.

00:13:48.000 And that is what is so amazing because, you know, I don't want to overstate my role.

00:13:53.000 I was just one consultant of many.

00:13:55.000 You guys had always found the truth by the time you checked with me and said, what is your view on this?

00:14:01.000 Our view is this.

00:14:02.000 And I was always amazed by the fact that you guys came to really In-depth, well-calculated spectrum analysis of what's going on.

00:14:15.000 You know, it's just being able to kind of, you know, look at the news as a whole, and you do the research, and, you know, with a lot of respect to Rahim and Holly, our other two associate producers, you know, they were fantastic.

00:14:26.000 You can kind of see them on the show at the table, and then, you know, all the investigative team.

00:14:30.000 You know, once you start reading the news, but reading through the news, and then looking at the, you know, sequence of events and stories and things like that, and then going out and finding the right people to talk to, the people that are voicing a dissenting opinion, rather than a popular opinion.

00:14:45.000 Uh, you can start finding a lot of facts.

00:14:47.000 It doesn't take that much.

00:14:48.000 I mean, any person at home can, you know, with a few mouse clicks, can start learning the truth.

00:14:53.000 And, you know, if they start telling their friends, then you get a nice, steamroll effect, and then that's when you can get the system to crack, and hopefully, you know, bring it back to what it should be.

00:15:01.000 And not a, you know, ruling class versus poor class.

00:15:08.000 Well, I agree with you.

00:15:09.000 I agree with you.

00:15:10.000 And it's just very...

00:15:14.000 It was great working on the show.

00:15:16.000 I mean, there was things I didn't know about, and I tried to pride myself with keeping ahead of what, you know, peering through the news and knowing what the truth is.

00:15:25.000 And there were things that we discovered that I didn't even know about, you know, from the menstruating candidates and how deep that went. 0.83

00:15:31.000 That sounds like hocus pocus, but completely real, you know, to the 2012 stuff.

00:15:38.000 You know, it was fascinating to work on the show.

00:15:42.000 What is your favorite episode of The 7, Tyrell?

00:15:48.000 My favorite episode probably of The 7 would be probably 9-11, just because that was the kind of one that me and my dad, you know, that I was able to bring to my dad and kind of open his eyes up to, so I've always kind of had a, hate to say this, but warm place, you know, for uncovering the facts of that, of what really happened that day.

00:16:07.000 I just feel, obviously, we weren't told what happened that day, and a lot of questions still need to be answered.

00:16:14.000 And that was a fun one, just to see Dad really sink his teeth into something that is a pet project of his, and to finally see it put on the air, and to see the pride that he had that he was able to get a show like that on the air.

00:16:26.000 Great episode.

00:16:27.000 And they're all fun.

00:16:28.000 They all have moments of just You know, fantastic candidness and great stories and great interviews and things like that, which is all you could ask for if you're trying to put together a television show.

00:16:42.000 Well, we don't know yet if it's going to be picked up again, but talking to your father and others, I mean, with the type of top rating success it's gotten for the channel, something's going on if Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura doesn't get picked up for a second larger season.

00:17:00.000 Well, you never know.

00:17:01.000 I mean, we hit the Bilderbergs pretty hard, and if they own all the pieces, you never know.

00:17:05.000 But, no, ratings are good, and, you know, the key isn't that thing I want to tell you.

00:17:09.000 If you're fans of the show and you believe in the show, you know, don't be afraid to write True TV and let them know you want to see a second season.

00:17:16.000 You know, I can give you their address right here, and, you know, write into them, let them know, they read their mail, they listen to the viewers, they want to know what you want.

00:17:24.000 Sure, give the address to True TV for folks.

00:17:28.000 Uh, it's uh, TruTV, T-R-U-T-V, uh, at 600 3rd Avenue, New York, New York, 10016.

00:17:33.000 And uh, you know, right in, or go online, they got a great website, you know, trutv.com, they actually have a, uh, uh, under the contact list, you can go right on there, and uh, and... But they really pay attention...

00:17:48.000 But they really pay attention to physical letters.

00:17:50.000 Sure, you can go online to truetv.com and send them emails, and that's important, but physically writing a letter.

00:17:57.000 Yep.

00:17:58.000 And keep this show on the air.

00:18:00.000 You know, we love Jesse, we love this show.

00:18:02.000 If you believe in the show, then write him and let him know.

00:18:04.000 But I don't know, we'll find out.

00:18:07.000 Last episode's tonight, hopefully it gets some good ratings tonight, and go out with a bang, and then we'll see what happens.

00:18:14.000 Tyrell separately guaranteed this will be big on DVD.

00:18:20.000 I hope you guys make a three disc set and it needs to be in stores.

00:18:26.000 Is there a movement towards getting a DVD of the show out?

00:18:31.000 I'm sure there will be.

00:18:32.000 I mean, I can't wait.

00:18:33.000 We haven't talked about it quite yet because we're just kind of finishing up with the season.

00:18:36.000 I'm sure in the next few months that discussion will come up.

00:18:40.000 I mean, there was a lot of stuff.

00:18:40.000 I can't wait for people.

00:18:41.000 You only get an hour to tell each story, which is actually about 45 minutes in TV time.

00:18:48.000 You know, there's a lot of stuff we had to put on the editing floor that we wished we could put in, but had to take out.

00:18:54.000 So hopefully in the DVD set, maybe we can include some of that.

00:18:57.000 And also, man, I just, you know, the more people that I have in their hand, the more people that share it and, you know, learn the truth, the better.

00:19:03.000 And plus, this is groundbreaking.

00:19:04.000 Hollywood, as Michael Breverman said on this show, is run by an old guard.

00:19:10.000 They want to keep it in the left-right paradigm.

00:19:13.000 Michael is really a smart guy.

00:19:14.000 He understands all this.

00:19:16.000 And this is groundbreaking.

00:19:18.000 If this is successful, which it has been, It shifts the paradigm.

00:19:22.000 And so many high-powered Hollywood people, they don't want to be liberals.

00:19:26.000 They don't want to be conservatives.

00:19:27.000 They want to get into reality and what's really happening.

00:19:30.000 And so a lot of people are watching to see what happens with this show so they can start going public and going public with their own projects.

00:19:37.000 It's a revolution against the controlled paradigm going on in Hollywood right now.

00:19:42.000 And you guys are, and of course me involved as well, are right in the middle of it.

00:19:47.000 This is so wonderful that this has turned out this good, this professional, this true to the reality, and it's just such a good thing, Tyrell.

00:19:57.000 We're gonna come back, talk more about the show, your dad, and a lot more.

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00:24:14.000 Tyrell Ventura, filmmaker, researcher, son of Jesse Ventura.

00:24:20.000 He's the guy that woke his father up.

00:24:24.000 We are excited to have him with us today, talking about the final episode of the first season of Conspiracy Theory.

00:24:33.000 With Jesse Ventura, the last show premieres tonight, 9 p.m.

00:24:37.000 Central, 10 p.m.

00:24:38.000 Eastern on TruTV.

00:24:40.000 Getting more into tonight's episode, I mean, as much as you're allowed to tell the public, give people an idea of why they want to tune in tonight, Tyrell.

00:24:51.000 Tonight, because you're going to find out just how the government, you know, could prepare for potential disaster and leave you, you know, above ground.

00:25:02.000 I mean, that's kind of where we want to work this episode.

00:25:04.000 It's fascinating to begin and see that, you know, in every emergency situation, you know, in all the government, you know, in all their files, you know, and in their, what's the word, the power structure, you know, keeping the power structure in place takes priority to the citizenry.

00:25:21.000 And it's very frightening to think about that.

00:25:24.000 And that's where we get into this episode.

00:25:28.000 We also, you know, uncover some massive underground facilities and other such places right underneath your nose.

00:25:36.000 And it's a fun episode, you know, watching Jesse go bunker busting.

00:25:43.000 And we'll leave it at that.

00:25:45.000 Believe me, I think this is one of the strongest episodes.

00:25:47.000 What episode really is your favorite?

00:25:50.000 Like I said, probably 9-11.

00:25:53.000 And global warming was interesting, too, because I'd never, you know, I always assumed that the global warming was real.

00:25:59.000 And like we say in the show, we were not debating the science of whether it's real or not.

00:26:02.000 We just are debating our ideas that are being presented.

00:26:06.000 Yeah, personally, my favorite episode is the global warming because you just destroyed them.

00:26:12.000 they're just going to make the wealthy more wealthy and then make people rich.

00:26:15.000 Personally, my favorite episode is the global warming because you just destroyed them.

00:26:15.000 Yeah.

00:26:21.000 You have Ben Santer.

00:26:22.000 I mean, that, I mean, that made newspaper news that he admitted the head of the UN program that they took out five scientists who in the report said, man is not causing global warming.

00:26:32.000 And the UN knew that 10 years ago on top of climate gate.

00:26:37.000 That is as big as the emails.

00:26:41.000 Oh, it's fantastic.

00:26:42.000 I mean, the timing of that episode and what was going on in the world at that moment was, I could have been more Couldn't have been better.

00:26:48.000 You know, it was just one of those great moments in time where you're on top of a story as another facet of the story breaks.

00:26:55.000 And I won't, you know, I was very critical, like, overwhelming.

00:26:59.000 Come on, guys, really?

00:27:00.000 Like, and then, you know, as More research we did, the more I was convinced that, yeah, there's definitely something sneaky going on there.

00:27:07.000 And hopefully, the more people you get talking about these issues, the more we can try to change it.

00:27:12.000 I mean, that's the whole point of doing shows like this, to get you talking, get you aware of what's going on around you, not just being spoon-fed everything you see on television.

00:27:22.000 I didn't really open my dad's eyes up to the world of conspiracy theory.

00:27:27.000 He definitely did that when he took me to see the movie JFK when I was a little kid.

00:27:33.000 I was like 10, 11 years old.

00:27:34.000 So he definitely opened it up to that.

00:27:36.000 I was able to kind of open his eyes up to the 9-11 because, you know, like all of us were kind of Shocked and had our head in the sand to a certain degree after that had happened.

00:27:46.000 And at first, he was real hesitant to buy in with it.

00:27:49.000 I just kept saying, just watch the blues change.

00:27:51.000 Watch this.

00:27:52.000 It raises enough questions, it'll make you think about it.

00:27:55.000 And then that kind of got him rolling on 9-11 and then opened up.

00:27:59.000 You know, really, that got him rolling and ended up creating this show to a certain extent because it kind of opened his mind up to other vast conspiracies, you know, the other conspiracies out there beyond just JFK.

00:28:11.000 Well sure Tyrell but I mean talking to your dad the last time he was down here in Austin with me for a few days I mean he said he knew about JFK he knew about some of the things but that you had brought him so many books and evidence and material and then I'd given him material and then all of that that he went down to Mexico and spent months and months reading and watching it all and doing research and then he really had this It's awakening to a higher level of information.

00:28:36.000 And then you guys have just gotten back from HAARP in Alaska when I hooked up with you guys at the hotel there in L.A.

00:28:44.000 And I was talking to your dad and he said, Alex, my head's spinning.

00:28:46.000 When I lay down at night, it's literally spinning and opening up.

00:28:50.000 And that's the same process that all of us go through.

00:28:53.000 Even when we think we know what's going on, even when we think we're aware of the new world order and the shadow government, It just gets more and more crazy.

00:29:02.000 And this microcosm of the underground bases, how there's this giant archipelago of underground bases and continuity of government facilities that are even on record to exist.

00:29:15.000 Imagine what we don't know exists, and the general public has no idea all this is going on beneath them.

00:29:21.000 I know, and they have no idea that most of their taxpayers are paying for all of it.

00:29:24.000 Most of their tax money is paying for all of it.

00:29:27.000 You know, I mean, you want to know what you're buying.

00:29:29.000 I mean, they're taking your money to do all this and to run these regimes that do this.

00:29:35.000 Not to mention, you know, the selling of drugs.

00:29:37.000 Not to mention the CIA selling of drugs on the inner city streets and all of that.

00:29:41.000 I mean, you know, they're totally abusing you.

00:29:44.000 I mean, it's no different than when the feudal lords were abusing the serfs, you know, back in the 1300s.

00:29:50.000 Stay there, Tyrell!

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:32:59.000 Alex, we always hear the term New World Order.

00:33:05.000 What is that?

00:33:06.000 The New World Order is the establishment's catch-all phrase for all these groups and organizations.

00:33:11.000 Everything we've talked about.

00:33:13.000 It's the name of their agenda, the global elite's vision for the planet.

00:33:17.000 It is a hellish prison planet controlled by them against a defenseless public.

00:33:22.000 How come this isn't exposed?

00:33:23.000 They did report on it.

00:33:25.000 The Council on Foreign Relations now goes on C-SPAN.

00:33:28.000 I mean, it's incredible!

00:33:29.000 Now, more and more, they just come right out with the fact that they're setting up.

00:33:37.000 Okay, here's the deal.

00:33:38.000 We've got Tyrell Ventura, part of the production team, associate producer, camera guy, researcher on conspiracy theory.

00:33:47.000 The last episode, 2012, the underground bunker program, That is coming up tonight, 9 p.m.

00:33:55.000 Central, 10 p.m.

00:33:56.000 Eastern.

00:33:57.000 Believe me, you want to tune in and watch it the hour before they will re-air last week's show, which Jesse thinks is the most wild one, and that's the Manchurian candidate program that we know is real. 0.51

00:34:09.000 Now, is every person out there saying they're a Manchurian candidate real?

00:34:12.000 No.

00:34:14.000 But that's going to re-air tonight, 8 o'clock Central, leading into the new episode.

00:34:18.000 But we have callers for the guest only, questions about Jesse Ventura, questions about the series, questions about the production of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura.

00:34:31.000 Tyrell Ventura is here giving us a different perspective, a different angle.

00:34:35.000 On the production, 1-800-259-9231, 1-800-259-9231.

00:34:36.000 Tyrell, I want to get into your dad and politics, but before we do that, I've been asking the questions here.

00:34:50.000 Any other points or ideas?

00:34:51.000 You were getting into government drug dealing, how many times they've been caught, CIA aircraft crashing full of cocaine, and you got cut off by break.

00:34:58.000 Any more statements on that, or anything else you want to...

00:35:02.000 The thing I want to say, too, is don't, like, I, you know, I read the talkback section on the Facebook page for the Conspiracy Theory show, you know, for our show and, like, all of that, and, you know, I've gotten a lot of mail, you know, to the, to the company and to the production office, you know, of people, you know, telling us, look, I've uncovered this or I've found that, and, you know, and we do take that seriously.

00:35:21.000 I mean, if we do get picked up for a second season, we need materials.

00:35:24.000 So if you're, you know, if you have anything out there that you've uncovered or you think of, you know, don't be afraid to send it to us, you know.

00:35:31.000 You know, interviewing people out there and finding the truth of stories is what's going to help us.

00:35:37.000 And if you've got a little nugget of information about something that maybe you yourself are afraid to bring to public, you know, we can.

00:35:44.000 We can do that.

00:35:45.000 If we get picked up, you know, that's why you've got to watch a show and write to TruTV and, you know, get us picked up for a second season so we can keep telling the truth on, you know, we've got Alex doing it on the radio and on DVDs, and if we can keep doing it on TV, you know, that creates the ground to fall, and hopefully you can change the world that way.

00:36:01.000 Well, there's no doubt that there's a huge awakening taking place, and you guys were already aware of that, but producing the show, being out there on the street, really plunging with both feet into the alternative media and bringing it to mainstream media, building that bridge.

00:36:17.000 This is unprecedented, trailblazing, avant-garde event that we've all witnessed, and I've just been honored to be involved in it.

00:36:26.000 What has it been like truly immersing yourself in this, Tyrell?

00:36:31.000 Well, I mean, it's like you say, your head starts spinning after a while, and it's tough sometimes to, you know, decipher, you know, which person's telling you the truth, which person isn't, you know, whose side should you take in this, you know, who's got the most information on any subject that's going to fit right for the show and the style of show and the editing.

00:36:53.000 I mean, it was a tough, long thing to put together, you know, I mean, you're out there You know, interviewing people, sending Jesse up to Alaska, going all over the place, and the government's not being helpful at all.

00:37:06.000 It was a fun shoot to do.

00:37:08.000 I worked with great people all around, and Jesse had a great time doing it.

00:37:12.000 Yeah, your head starts spinning after a while, because you get so...

00:37:16.000 You know, inundated with information.

00:37:19.000 You just kind of got to pick the best ones you got right there and go with them.

00:37:23.000 I mean, we had so much more information on each of these subjects that we could put in that we only have an hour, you know, to talk about.

00:37:29.000 So you kind of got to just grab the best things you can and hope for the best, you know.

00:37:35.000 I haven't talked to your dad the last three weeks since he left to get down to Mexico.

00:37:40.000 Talking to him over email down there.

00:37:44.000 He was super excited when I talked to him three weeks ago.

00:37:47.000 Is he even more excited now that the ratings have just continued?

00:37:50.000 Oh, of course he's excited.

00:37:52.000 I mean, now we're just kind of all waiting to see and hope we get picked up.

00:37:56.000 But yeah, he loves the show and is very happy with it.

00:37:59.000 You know, and you know, a lot of, like I say, a lot of love to TruTV.

00:38:03.000 They never once, you know, really stepped in and said, no, you can't talk about this, or yes, you can.

00:38:07.000 You know, I mean, they were very hands-off.

00:38:10.000 You know, I mean, you know, and they're a very good, very good company to work for.

00:38:13.000 Same with H&M Productions, which is the production company that put it together.

00:38:17.000 You know, great people to work for, and like I say, very hands-off, surprisingly.

00:38:21.000 I was expecting, You know, the worst.

00:38:22.000 When you get into media conglomerates and their own Mike Turner and all that, you never know what you're going to get into, but they were fantastic to work with.

00:38:30.000 Well, I was involved in a big production for Discovery Channel with the director who did some kind of Monster Brothers Keeper and a lot of other top documentary films.

00:38:42.000 I mean, the very top of the genre.

00:38:44.000 And he said, I've never seen this in 20 plus years of filmmaking.

00:38:47.000 The whole show was done.

00:38:49.000 Executives came in and said, we're not doing this anti-New World Order stuff.

00:38:53.000 3.4 million dollar budget killed the entire program.

00:39:00.000 And I've seen that over and over again where the system does do this, but talking to your dad and other people in the production, they say that his personality, his gravitas, his research, you know, proving it.

00:39:13.000 You know, he told TruTV, you know, I'm going in to just find the truth.

00:39:17.000 I have an open mind.

00:39:18.000 He found the truth.

00:39:19.000 It's our perspective because we are telling the truth.

00:39:22.000 And it is the first national television show that actually comes from the reality perspective And so how do you think this got on air?

00:39:31.000 I think it got on air.

00:39:33.000 I mean, I think, A, the True TV, you know, believed in Jesse and, you know, had the guts, you know, the executives up there had the guts to say, you know, let's take a gamble on this and let's take a chance.

00:39:44.000 But there's an audience out there for this, which we've found that there is.

00:39:48.000 And also, I think, you know, we probably got in under the radar a little bit.

00:39:50.000 You know, Jesse hadn't really been on the public eye for a while, and I think we flipped it by him.

00:39:57.000 In terms of, you know, the media elite and the powers that be, I think we kind of flipped this one by him.

00:40:01.000 But, you know, the great thing about Hollywood and television and all of that is As much as they will push an agenda, they still love money.

00:40:10.000 And TV, it's advertising dollars.

00:40:13.000 So, you know, like we say, the more people that watch the show, the more people that want it on the air and want this kind of information out there, you know, you've got to write in and tell them to pick this up for the second season.

00:40:22.000 Because they'll follow money before they'll follow... if greed comes first.

00:40:27.000 There is no doubt that if you put this on primetime CBS, ABC, NBC, or Fox, that this would be a number one show.

00:40:36.000 And I know there's been some discussion down the road.

00:40:39.000 I mean, we need to get another season on cable, but this needs to go to primetime television.

00:40:45.000 Now, I don't think the powers that be are going to let that happen.

00:40:49.000 Oh, who knows?

00:40:50.000 I mean, that primetime television is so locked into, you know, sitcoms that mean nothing and everything else, but, you know, and then, you know, murder investigation stories that aren't true.

00:41:01.000 You know, that's the great thing about being, you know, on true TV and working with them is, you know, we're dealing, like it says, we're not, you know, we're dealing with not reality, but actuality, you know, and it's been a great network to work for.

00:41:11.000 This is a real Perry Mason.

00:41:13.000 I mean, you guys go out into a real investigation.

00:41:16.000 Yeah, we're not, you know, we're not CSI out there pretending, you know, fake dead bodies.

00:41:20.000 These are real issues we're dealing with.

00:41:21.000 And, you know, real people we're interviewing.

00:41:23.000 You know, and that's what's so fun about the show is, you know, going in to play that meeting, you know, meeting a man who says he's a Manchurian candidate.

00:41:32.000 You know, I shook his hand, I talked to him, and I don't know if he's telling the truth or not, but I can tell you this is that he believes in what he's saying.

00:41:39.000 Well, we know those programs are real.

00:41:42.000 And we know he had the car wreck and suddenly remembered all of this, and that's exactly in the real cases how this has happened.

00:41:49.000 I mean, CIA officers like Olson died in these mind control programs.

00:41:55.000 I mean, this is declassified.

00:41:57.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

00:41:58.000 But to get out there and meet those people.

00:42:02.000 I hope.

00:42:03.000 I can't wait for another season because there's a lot of other stories out there that we weren't able to get this time around.

00:42:09.000 Like I say, get good ratings tonight and everything else and we'll have a lot of fun next year.

00:42:14.000 Tyrell, give people the address of the different websites that you run in association with the Conspiracy Theory Show.

00:42:22.000 Contact info, contact for TruTV, some of the places people can interface with you and send you information.

00:42:29.000 Yeah, they can, I mean, you can definitely send mail to TruTV, which is at 600 3rd Avenue, New York, New York 10016.

00:42:37.000 I check on the Conspiracy Theory of Jesse Ventura at Facebook.com, you know, go on there and then, you know, post things on there.

00:42:45.000 I definitely read all the talkback stuff in there.

00:42:48.000 You know, so go on to the TruTV website, right through there, and then, you know, just voice your opinion and be heard.

00:42:57.000 Okay, shifting gears.

00:42:59.000 I can't take friend requests from everybody though.

00:43:01.000 So if you're on Facebook, that's my private page.

00:43:06.000 Don't send me all the friend requests.

00:43:09.000 I know, it's a deluge.

00:43:12.000 Shifting gears, I have congressmen on, I have political analysts on every week, I have top reporters on, people that really understand politics, the political landscape.

00:43:25.000 The Republicans have no credibility, the Democrats have no credibility, no matter who we put into office.

00:43:31.000 Governments get bigger.

00:43:32.000 The wars get bigger.

00:43:33.000 Our freedoms get attacked.

00:43:35.000 The banks are looting us.

00:43:36.000 The Democrats and Republicans in all the major polls don't want the government takeover of health care.

00:43:42.000 They found out it's not free health care.

00:43:44.000 No such animal.

00:43:45.000 It's a boondoggle to the insurance companies.

00:43:49.000 Even Howard Dean, head of the Democratic Party, is saying that.

00:43:53.000 So people are really angry.

00:43:54.000 And every time I talk to political strategists, they see no one Out there with the name recognition or who has the dark horse history and the populist backing to run for president except for Ron Paul and Jesse Ventura and some people say Ron Paul almost 75.

00:44:17.000 will be 77 if he got elected, and that's too old.

00:44:21.000 I think he's in great shape, jogs every day, exercises.

00:44:24.000 I don't think that's the case.

00:44:25.000 I love Ron Paul.

00:44:26.000 I support him.

00:44:27.000 I know Governor Ventura is really waking up, truly, you know, just gets better and better like fine wine as he politically grows.

00:44:38.000 He's a real guy.

00:44:39.000 He keeps his word.

00:44:40.000 He doesn't want special interest.

00:44:41.000 He can't be bought off.

00:44:43.000 The media has demonized him for that.

00:44:44.000 He was against the war right when it first happened, when many others were for it and then later said they were against it.

00:44:51.000 He's been right on so many issues.

00:44:53.000 I disagree with him on a few, but everybody disagrees with each other.

00:44:57.000 Nobody agrees 100%.

00:44:57.000 But all these experts, and myself included, think I know he wants to have his own life.

00:45:06.000 He said, Alex, when you get the age I am, that time becomes the most valuable thing, not money, not fame.

00:45:13.000 He said, I just want to do the right thing.

00:45:17.000 I'm torn between being politically involved with all the nastiness and having to be around all the crooks in Washington.

00:45:23.000 You know, if I do do it, I would purely do it if the people are ready and want a true revolution back to the Constitution.

00:45:29.000 You know, these are the private discussions we've had.

00:45:31.000 We've had some on air.

00:45:32.000 Can you tell us as much as you can about what your dad's really thinking, what he's doing?

00:45:36.000 He's gotta know that he's being looked at to run for president and that he's needed.

00:45:44.000 Tyrell Ventura.

00:45:46.000 You know, he does know that, and he does, you know, hear the people out there on those numerous websites and things, you know, asking, you know, Jesse, you're running 2012, and, you know, with Egypt, and that kind of thing.

00:45:59.000 You know, I can tell you this.

00:46:01.000 My father's a big believer in fate.

00:46:02.000 And if fate opens his door and says, you know, looks like it puts him in a position where he's going to run for president, he might.

00:46:09.000 But ultimately, I don't think that's on his mind right now.

00:46:12.000 He's not, he's not shown me anything behind closed doors that said that he's got his sights set on the presidency.

00:46:18.000 If anything, he wants to surf more and then continue to work on the television show.

00:46:22.000 But, you know, it's a strange, funny world we live in, and you never know what can happen.

00:46:26.000 But as of right now, no, he doesn't have any political ambitions right now, except for just waking people up and continuing to be a voice of independence and a voice of revolution.

00:46:39.000 Well that's what he's told me, and people always ask me to run for office, and the reason I've said I will probably never do it, is that I can be pure here.

00:46:48.000 Nobody's telling me what to say, I can do whatever I want, I can tell the truth, I can feel good when I go to bed at night, and politics itself is inherently corrupting, inherently is about compromise, and your dad knows he can write He can do books, he can do TV and radio interviews, he can have a hit TV show telling the truth, trailblazing, and that he wants to be from the grassroots part of the revolution against tyranny with the people as a foot soldier, as a commando, as a Navy SEAL.

00:47:17.000 That's what he sees as that front line general out there, you know, on the front lines in the fight.

00:47:25.000 You know what it is, Alex, is that one of the greatest experiences he ever had in his life was teaching political science at Harvard.

00:47:31.000 You know, and they had him come out there for a semester at Harvard and was able to teach all these young kids about third-party politics and about 9-11 and about JFK and things like that.

00:47:43.000 And he was able to really, you know, kind of Those are the people that are going to change the world.

00:47:47.000 And I think my dad's kind of getting to a point in his life now where he would rather inspire the person who is going to change the world rather than change the world.

00:47:54.000 He's taken it pretty far now.

00:47:56.000 He's gone from governor and everything else.

00:47:59.000 But I think as he gets up there, he wants to surf more.

00:48:03.000 He kind of wants to pass the reins on.

00:48:05.000 You know, hopefully, you know, there's someone out there who will have that charisma and will have that third-party know-how to, you know, take this country back for us.

00:48:14.000 But it starts with all of us.

00:48:15.000 It doesn't take one person.

00:48:16.000 You can't put your faith in just one person.

00:48:18.000 Tyrell, I want to hold you five minutes in the next hour, if you can, so we have two short segments to be able to take calls.

00:48:25.000 You can do that, can't you?

00:48:28.000 Okay, great.

00:48:28.000 We're going to come back and go to Noel, Mark, Rose, Ron, Tim, and others for Tyrell Ventura, specifically on the show, or Jesse Ventura, or on Tyrell.

00:48:39.000 But I just want to say this here as we go to break.

00:48:42.000 Studying the Founding Fathers.

00:48:43.000 They weren't perfect, they were men, but they had good hearts, and they were intelligent, and they truly wanted liberty.

00:48:50.000 George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, those are icons, those are my idols.

00:48:56.000 Really getting to know your dad and studying now in hindsight what he's done in his life and knowing that he doesn't want to be president.

00:49:05.000 He doesn't want the power.

00:49:07.000 He doesn't want to have the attention and be at all the big dinners.

00:49:12.000 He just wants freedom.

00:49:13.000 That's just like George Washington who, you know, Turned in his command.

00:49:18.000 They wanted him to be king.

00:49:19.000 He said no.

00:49:20.000 And then they basically drafted him to run for president.

00:49:24.000 And all he wanted to do was get back to Mount Vernon.

00:49:26.000 He wanted to leave New York and go back to where Washington DC is today, his farm.

00:49:31.000 And so that's exactly why we need your dad to run for president.

00:49:35.000 Because I've genuinely looked into his eyes. 0.96

00:49:37.000 He doesn't want to do it because he doesn't want to be around all that corrupt slime. 0.83

00:49:41.000 And he just wants to be a common person.

00:49:44.000 But then he wants to run because he knows he wants to put real issues out. 0.99

00:49:48.000 Imagine all these scumbag politicians. 1.00

00:49:50.000 They would kill their children to be president. 1.00

00:49:53.000 And that's why we don't want them to be president. 0.91

00:49:55.000 Ron Paul doesn't want to run for president.

00:49:57.000 I've talked to him privately.

00:49:59.000 But he fights tirelessly because of duty.

00:50:01.000 Your dad doesn't want to be president, but he does want to stop the New World Order.

00:50:06.000 Yes.

00:50:06.000 Yes, of course.

00:50:08.000 Completely.

00:50:09.000 You couldn't have said it better.

00:50:11.000 He just wants to continue his fight and to open people's minds up and to get people thinking.

00:50:17.000 Thinking of third party.

00:50:18.000 Don't fall into the left or the right.

00:50:20.000 Be your own person.

00:50:21.000 Be an independent thinker.

00:50:23.000 Study the founding fathers.

00:50:24.000 Learn what they created here in this great, great country we have.

00:50:28.000 You know, and then don't let it fall into the hands of the ruthless and the corrupt.

00:50:31.000 Well, your dad really does, with all of his colorful history and all the great things he's done as a trailblazer, the fact that he doesn't want power, the fact that he just wants to be on a lonely seashore by himself reading books, that's why he needs to be president or somebody like Ron Paul, instead of Sarah Palin and the Democrats and the Republicans, all these painted trolleys and trumpets who want power.

00:50:58.000 That's the people we don't want in government. 0.99

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00:54:25.000 We're going to have her via video Skype link coming up at the 8 after in the next hour for the rest of the hour. 0.88

00:54:34.000 Member of the Icelandic Parliament fighting the banker takeover over there.

00:54:39.000 Very, very exciting.

00:54:40.000 We've got this segment and the next with Tyrell Ventura and I'm going to your calls.

00:54:43.000 But Tyrell, during the break you made a statement that was not conclusive but closer to conclusive.

00:54:49.000 So finish up that statement about your dad.

00:54:52.000 Well, essentially I'm going to say this, like, you know, you ask me if I'm going to run for president in 2012 and things like that, and I say, you know, right now I would say I'm probably 85% sure that he's not going to run for president.

00:55:03.000 However, you know, his life has been so dynamic and strange that, you know, you never can say never with him.

00:55:09.000 So, you know, who knows?

00:55:12.000 You know, he told me that we have the Conspiracy Theory Show on and we're getting great ratings.

00:55:17.000 I said, like, oh no way, they never put it on.

00:55:19.000 But they did.

00:55:20.000 He told me he was going to run for governor and when I said no way, but he did.

00:55:24.000 So you never know.

00:55:25.000 You never know with him.

00:55:27.000 But as of right now, it doesn't look like he's running.

00:55:30.000 But, you know, never say never.

00:55:33.000 There you go, ladies and gentlemen.

00:55:35.000 Jesse wants to ride off into the sunset with his TV show and tell the younger generation, take your country back.

00:55:40.000 But, he might still run for president.

00:55:43.000 Noel, in Ohio, you're on the air with Tyrell Ventura.

00:55:47.000 Alex, Tyrell, pleasure to talk to you.

00:55:49.000 A little nervous, sorry.

00:55:51.000 I've been reading the Grilling News Network's book, True Lies, and you're mentioned in it.

00:55:57.000 And I thought it would be a good idea for maybe a second season show to do a show on the depleted uranium that we're giving the troops as ammunition.

00:56:10.000 That is a great subject because the Army's own manuals admit it.

00:56:14.000 Tyrell?

00:56:15.000 That's a fantastic subject.

00:56:17.000 I just saw a piece about that the other day that was devastating.

00:56:21.000 You know, what's happening over there from using those in weaponry and things like that.

00:56:24.000 Why are we?

00:56:25.000 You know, there's no reason for us to use depleted uranium in weapons.

00:56:29.000 Well, it's a toxic waste, just like fluoride's a toxic waste, so they put it in the water.

00:56:33.000 It's a toxic waste from spent fuel rods at nuke plants, so they put it into weaponry when the Army's own manuals in the 80s said, this will kill you deader than a hammer if you breathe it.

00:56:43.000 Now they say, oh no, it's good for you.

00:56:46.000 Yeah.

00:56:47.000 No, that's just typical.

00:56:49.000 It's the corporation trying to get rid of its toxic waste so they figure out we can sell it to the military.

00:56:54.000 They have good use for it.

00:56:56.000 And then they always wrap themselves in the flag, but they could really care less about these troops.

00:57:01.000 Oh, of course not.

00:57:01.000 They don't care, no.

00:57:02.000 It's sad when you see these young kids going over there, my generation and younger, going over to Iraq on their fourth, fifth, sixth tour now, if not eighth.

00:57:14.000 You know, being used completely as corporate pawns.

00:57:16.000 You know, it's terrible.

00:57:18.000 No, anything else?

00:57:20.000 Noel's gone.

00:57:21.000 Mark in Oregon, quickly, go ahead.

00:57:24.000 Morning, Alex and Tyrell.

00:57:25.000 I want to congratulate you both on your very successful expose of evil here.

00:57:30.000 And the dark side.

00:57:33.000 I'd like to make a quick comment and ask a question.

00:57:39.000 I think your dad, Tyrell, and Ron Paul, Interchangeably on the ticket.

00:57:44.000 I don't know which would be vice president or president, but that would certainly gather in a lot of people between the independent type of voter as well as the Republican voter and perhaps quite a few Democrats.

00:57:58.000 Something to think about.

00:57:59.000 At any rate, I wanted to ask you Tyrell, do you have any knowledge of Turner Broadcasting, Ted Turner's conglomerate, actually having ownership or a large interest in the TruTV network.

00:58:13.000 I don't have knowledge of that.

00:58:17.000 He doesn't have a controlling interest.

00:58:19.000 He's now out of the decision-making process in those companies.

00:58:23.000 Yeah, I think it's just called Turner Broadcasting just because that's the name of it.

00:58:27.000 Yeah, I mean, he's been out of the decision-making process for five, six years.

00:58:31.000 But it doesn't matter, it's globalist above... globalists still run it.

00:58:35.000 That's a big question.

00:58:36.000 Why was this allowed on TV?

00:58:38.000 Because they can't hide the truth any longer.

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00:59:58.000 Big Brother.

01:00:05.000 Mainstream media.

01:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:10.000 You want answers?

01:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:22.000 I have thought long and hard about why this show was allowed on air, how the show is from our perspective and proves the government's doing all this evil stuff.

01:00:33.000 Because that's what Ventura found.

01:00:34.000 And why is it on air?

01:00:36.000 They know they've got to mix a little bit of this in.

01:00:38.000 They can't just fully ignore it.

01:00:39.000 It's gotten too big.

01:00:40.000 Too many people know.

01:00:41.000 So they put it on TruTV.

01:00:45.000 And also, they know it's very popular, so they'll make money.

01:00:47.000 They think so little of you, it's just right out in the open.

01:00:50.000 But I think they've miscalculated.

01:00:52.000 It's also titrating the dose.

01:00:54.000 It's like people that are around cobras.

01:00:56.000 They take small amounts of the venom until they get immune to it.

01:00:59.000 And the elite are slowly, kind of like they've admitted world government now.

01:01:03.000 But I think they've miscalculated.

01:01:04.000 I mean, it's hurting them worse to ignore it all, because then people say, well, why are they hiding it?

01:01:11.000 I think they're just trying to put it right out in the open.

01:01:13.000 Tyrell, you think that's a good assessment?

01:01:15.000 Oh, I think it's that and also, yeah, I think that, you know, they kind of feel that, you know, we'll let them talk about this and have this little corner and, you know, they're never going to be a threat to us.

01:01:24.000 But yeah, the more people are talking about it, the more people are exposed to the truth, you know, that will get that ball rolling and take our liberty back, take our country back, you know, and stop programs like, you know, mentoring and Canada programs.

01:01:39.000 Absolutely.

01:01:39.000 I'm going to try to... Absolutely.

01:01:41.000 I'm going to try to jam in some quick calls.

01:01:44.000 Quick question for Tyrell Ventura.

01:01:45.000 backup plans in case of a catastrophe on an epic scale.

01:01:49.000 You know, how is it going to stay with people?

01:01:51.000 Ask questions with the government.

01:01:52.000 Absolutely.

01:01:53.000 I'm going to try to...

01:01:55.000 It's the fundamental thing that we have, you know.

01:01:56.000 Absolutely.

01:01:57.000 I'm going to try to jam in some quick calls.

01:01:58.000 Quick question for Tyrell Ventura.

01:02:01.000 Rose in Montana, you're on the air.

01:02:03.000 Hi, Alex and Tyrell.

01:02:05.000 First-time caller.

01:02:07.000 Alex, I want to thank you very much because without your tireless efforts, I don't think any of this would be possible.

01:02:13.000 And for the first time in three years since I became awake, I'm starting to feel hopeful.

01:02:18.000 Because, you know, you just keep pummeling, pummeling, pummeling.

01:02:21.000 Exactly!

01:02:21.000 We now are having victory.

01:02:23.000 Look at Copenhagen, setting up world government going down in flames.

01:02:27.000 We're having victory on every level.

01:02:28.000 Tyrell?

01:02:30.000 I agree.

01:02:30.000 You know, like I said, the more people talking about it, the more, you know, programs like Alex is listening to, shows like are watched, and the more you get that piece of truth out there and let people hang on to it, you know, or at least just defend a different opinion.

01:02:43.000 And even if you don't believe anything that we're saying, at least just listen so you have different opinions in your life.

01:02:48.000 Momentum is shifting towards liberty.

01:02:51.000 Freedom is on the rise.

01:02:53.000 Tyranny's been rising for a long time.

01:02:55.000 Now liberty is rising.

01:02:58.000 Thank you very much for that, because without your tireless efforts and those who have followed you, this would not be possible.

01:03:05.000 Yesterday was the first day that I felt really hopeful when your program on what was going on with TARP and AIG and European media bursting loose on H1N1.

01:03:19.000 Okay, and I thank you so much, because I don't think true TV would be possible without your work.

01:03:25.000 That's right.

01:03:26.000 The head of the EU Health Council has said it was all a fraud, dangerous vaccine to make money.

01:03:35.000 Again, we've been purely vindicated.

01:03:38.000 Tyrell, so much is coming out now.

01:03:40.000 The government's being just absolutely discredited.

01:03:44.000 Oh yeah.

01:03:45.000 I mean, you can find the truth in every news article they put out illustrating their end or what they want you to believe.

01:03:53.000 You can find an alternate viewpoint.

01:03:55.000 And like I said, even if you don't believe every alternate viewpoint you come across, you have to leave yourself open.

01:04:01.000 It shouldn't just be a right or left debate.

01:04:04.000 You know, you can't just be spoon-fed your whole life.

01:04:06.000 It's okay to be a free thinker, even if you're proven wrong.

01:04:09.000 You can have a great theory or a great, you know, good book.

01:04:11.000 We've tracked down many conspiracies that ended up being dead ends or facts that ended up being untrue, so we had to move in a different direction.

01:04:18.000 But that's the nature of investigation, the nature of good public discourse, you know, is being able to have all sorts of viewpoints presented.

01:04:27.000 Well said, Tyrell Ventura.

01:04:30.000 Great job on the show.

01:04:31.000 And I want to be clear.

01:04:32.000 It's you, the audience.

01:04:33.000 It's you, the people, getting the word out at the grassroots that deserve all the credit for the awakening that's happening.

01:04:39.000 I'm only a small part of that.

01:04:41.000 Tyrell's a small part.

01:04:42.000 Ventura's a small part.

01:04:43.000 But all of us together is extremely powerful.

01:04:47.000 Tyrell, hope to see you in Minnesota or out in Los Angeles or come to Austin soon.

01:04:51.000 Hope the show gets picked up again so I can work with you some more.

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01:08:07.000 She's a member of Iceland's parliament.

01:08:15.000 She's also the chairman of her party.

01:08:17.000 She's been involved in Friends of Tibet.

01:08:20.000 She's been involved all over the world fighting tyranny. 0.88

01:08:23.000 Her bio is lengthy.

01:08:26.000 Her name is Birgitta Jones-Dottir.

01:08:29.000 We're daughter of Jones, and we are very honored to have her joining us via video Skype from the capital of Iceland.

01:08:37.000 She is with us for the next 52 minutes, and we really appreciate her coming on in her busy schedule.

01:08:43.000 We'll give you the party's website and a lot more information.

01:08:47.000 Here is the London Guardian.

01:08:48.000 Britain's anti-terror laws being deployed for all sorts of ends, as Iceland has just discovered.

01:08:54.000 They declared the country basically terrorist, stole many of their bank accounts.

01:08:59.000 They want the country to pay private debts for derivatives to Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Bank of England and others.

01:09:07.000 And the country, just like third world nations have been taken over, is being taken over by offshore banks.

01:09:12.000 The people are saying no.

01:09:14.000 Now the banks are backing off saying, well maybe we had assets we didn't tell you about and you don't owe that much.

01:09:19.000 It's all made up.

01:09:21.000 If they can win their fight there, it will send a domino effect throughout Eastern Europe, Asia, Latin America, the United States.

01:09:27.000 This debt is created through fraud.

01:09:29.000 We also have Bankstergate with Tim Geithner, open discussions of him being indicted for fraud, getting money for himself and others out of bailout money, and ordering the government to cover that up at AIG.

01:09:41.000 And so we'll get her take on BanksterGate as well.

01:09:45.000 But we are very honored to have Birgitta Jones-Dottir on with us.

01:09:50.000 Thank you so much for coming on.

01:09:53.000 Well, thanks for having me.

01:09:55.000 However, I have to correct one thing about the banks.

01:09:58.000 The bank that we are supposed to be covering was a privately run bank by Icelanders.

01:10:04.000 But it made the investments in the derivatives.

01:10:07.000 Yes, of course.

01:10:09.000 So we were basically conned.

01:10:11.000 The entire nation was conned.

01:10:13.000 And the thing is that the Brits and the Dutch, they want us to pay back with huge interest. 0.99

01:10:21.000 So they're actually making money off us, money that never reached Iceland.

01:10:25.000 And most Icelanders had never heard of these accounts before everything collapsed.

01:10:30.000 And they put the anti-terrorist law on us, almost like guinea pigs, because they had not tried to use that particular Terror Act law.

01:10:39.000 And instead of putting it on the bank in the beginning, which was privately owned, they put it on Iceland.

01:10:45.000 And actually, during our incredible system, almost entire system collapse, when all the big banks collapsed, they decided to put the Terrorist Act on us, so we were very close to not having food in Iceland.

01:10:59.000 Amazing.

01:11:00.000 Now, start at the beginning, for people that don't understand what's happening and why this is so important globally, with what happened in Iceland, the chain of events, and now the incredible fight you and others are leading against the banking cartel, literally turning your country into a vassal state through economic fraudulent conquest.

01:11:22.000 Well, it all happened a few years ago.

01:11:24.000 All the big banks were actually government-owned, or the people owned them.

01:11:29.000 And we had a conservative party run Iceland for 18 years, and during that period they basically privatized everything the people owned, including the banks, a few years ago.

01:11:40.000 And they sold the banks relatively cheaply to friends and allies.

01:11:45.000 And they made, in a very short period of time, all the legislation vanished.

01:11:49.000 That would have them, you know, having to not expand as quickly as they did.

01:11:55.000 They became five times bigger than the annual GDP.

01:11:58.000 And so when they collapsed, you can imagine how huge flow it was for the nation.

01:12:03.000 Now, today, in Iceland, there's been, what, almost a year of protests and people taking over government buildings and saying no.

01:12:16.000 And a key vote is coming up by the people of Iceland on whether or not you're going to capitulate to this fraud.

01:12:22.000 Can you walk us through that?

01:12:24.000 Yes.

01:12:25.000 Just around the time when, you know, the banking system collapsed, protests started.

01:12:31.000 People were actually quite shocked because they had been conned.

01:12:35.000 And we wanted to get the government out of office.

01:12:39.000 Which is impossible by legislation.

01:12:42.000 So we had the soft revolution driving the government away.

01:12:46.000 And then when we got a new government, which apparently is just like the old one, unfortunately, with all their secrecy and bowing to the IMF.

01:12:58.000 Which, you know, I really think that we need to get a plan B to get rid of.

01:13:04.000 There's been an ongoing protest and it's growing bigger and bigger again because people are very unhappy with the way the new government is handling things even though it is the first left-wing government in the history of Iceland.

01:13:19.000 Because you can't run left-wing politics with the IMF controlling the national budget.

01:13:27.000 And we've been, you know, in the Parliament.

01:13:29.000 I just got fresh into Parliament.

01:13:32.000 You know, I'm not really a politician by heart.

01:13:34.000 And our movement, we were created out of all the different grassroots that popped up after the collapse.

01:13:42.000 And we got, just in eight weeks, more than 7% of the vote.

01:13:46.000 And we didn't have any money, no big money people behind us.

01:13:49.000 Just a relentless effort of ordinary people who wanted to build a bridge between Parliament and the people.

01:13:58.000 So, you know, when we got into Parliament the Iceland dilemma landed in our lap.

01:14:04.000 And we found out that they wanted to pass this huge burden on the nation without even the parliamentarians seeing the contract between Iceland and the Dutch and the British government.

01:14:19.000 So the fight started there and fortunately the contract was leaked and that has been a great blessing for us that so much of the material they wanted to hide from us and the nation has been leaked on sites like Wikileaks and into the media in Iceland.

01:14:38.000 However, we passed, we managed to change the contract this summer, which was actually totally unique and a new way also for other nations that are suffering from, you know, spending all their national budget, all their GDP on dispaying interest of foreign debt.

01:14:58.000 So in the The changes on the bill we managed to put in that we would never pay more than we could handle.

01:15:06.000 And of course the British and the Dutch did not like that and they demanded that we would actually change Icelandic law in order for them to accept it.

01:15:17.000 And our government decided to listen to them.

01:15:21.000 Unbelievable that they pushed another bill through with There was a question if they would actually manage to get majority vote or not.

01:15:32.000 And when they passed it during that time, which was by force, the nation got up to its feet and 23% of the nation signed the petition asking the President of Iceland, who is the last person to sign all law, to not sign this law and let the nation vote on it.

01:15:53.000 So this is the first time in Icelandic history since we voted on becoming a sovereign state when we got out of the Danish colonialism in 1944.

01:16:02.000 So it's truly historical and I really hope that we will have the courage to vote no to this out of courage but not, yes, out of fear.

01:16:11.000 Because of course there is a great spin and that is why it is so important for the Icelandic people to feel the support of the people of the world who are fed up with bailing out the bankers.

01:16:22.000 We're talking to Birgitta Jones-Dottir, a member of the Icelandic Parliament.

01:16:29.000 She is also the chairman of her new party that is rising to power there, as people see that they're actually standing up for the population, against fraud, the population.

01:16:40.000 Has been on the edge of near revolt.

01:16:42.000 We've played those videos here of people taking over banks, government buildings, you know, mainline, families, middle class, wealthy people, working class, because literally the country was imploded by design. 0.64

01:16:56.000 Food wasn't even coming in.

01:16:59.000 They export and import in a lot of their food.

01:17:03.000 Just just absolutely hellish.

01:17:04.000 So I want to go over the fact that some news reports have said five times your GDP that the bank went into with derivative scams.

01:17:14.000 Some have said 10 times GDP.

01:17:16.000 You're saying five times GDP.

01:17:19.000 And I mean the actual bondage, the financial enslavement to these people and that they were doing it all in secret, just like our banker takeover in October of 2008 was done in secret.

01:17:31.000 And everything else is done in secret by these banks that form the shadow government.

01:17:35.000 So can you speak to the type of hardship this has created for your country and the secrecy that these people were trying to engage in to get your country to sign on to even more tyranny?

01:17:50.000 Well, what the previous government managed to do was to create a law that allowed the banks to maintain complete secrecy of their loan books and so forth.

01:18:04.000 Even if now all the banks, especially the bank that controls the iSave accounts, is now, you know, taken over by the government, we, the parliamentarians can't, and not even the Minister of Finance has seen what is supposed to be the bond or the assets that are supposed to cover iSave.

01:18:25.000 And I've asked for it from day one since last summer, officially and unofficially, and they've just stayed within the state, the liquidity committees.

01:18:40.000 However, I think people are awakening to the fact they're starting to demand more, which they didn't.

01:18:47.000 And I think one of the good things about this difficult situation Which means, you know, there's a lot of people moving away from Iceland.

01:18:54.000 There's a wave of... There's a huge brain drain already happening.

01:18:59.000 And we used to be the fifth richest nation in the world.

01:19:03.000 And now we're ranked among the fourth most likely nation to go bankrupt, to go into debt moratorium.

01:19:11.000 And, you know, we had very little poverty here and there was a very little gap between the rich and the poor.

01:19:18.000 However, that all changed with the new billionaires that basically got everything given on a silver platter and are now responsible for the reason why we're here, but their assets have not been frozen yet.

01:19:34.000 Birgitta, stay there. 0.91

01:19:35.000 We're going to come right back to you after this break.

01:19:37.000 But this is the story.

01:19:38.000 This is what the IMF, the World Bank, does in countries all over the world.

01:19:43.000 They're done destroying the third world. 1.00

01:19:45.000 They're now moving in to loot the first world, one of the most wealthy nations on earth, overnight becoming poor. 0.77

01:19:52.000 And they're saying, no, this debt is a fraud.

01:19:55.000 This is a scam.

01:19:57.000 You bankers ran off with the money.

01:19:58.000 We don't owe you more money.

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01:24:16.000 Americans are losing their jobs or having their pay cut, their savings are being destroyed.

01:24:22.000 We're going through the same process as Main Street dies, as everything is fed into the big banks.

01:24:29.000 But they tell Americans, oh, we've got a great economy.

01:24:33.000 So we're in the same boat as Iceland.

01:24:36.000 Going back to our guest, Birgitta, looking at this and the fraud they're engaged in, go over the con for people, the type of fraud these banks are engaged in, and then tie that in with the spin they're putting out to counter you and other Icelanders that are refusing to become slaves.

01:24:59.000 Well, I guess the con started Relatively sneakily, you know, because they were sort of passing loans between the banks with nothing really behind it.

01:25:11.000 They were making all these fancy bundles and stuff like that.

01:25:15.000 And I honestly don't have the English terms for it.

01:25:20.000 But then in the end, when they were truly becoming desperate for cash, they started to call on elderly people and immigrants, asking them to move their savings to high-risk accounts, saying that there were no risk accounts.

01:25:35.000 And telling them that, you know, even though it had better interest, it would be still Completely safe for them to save the money there.

01:25:45.000 And then they basically rinsed out all that money into God knows what.

01:25:50.000 Probably it's all resting in Tortola Islands or something like that.

01:25:57.000 The spin that's happening right now with the Icelandic government and the media, it's almost shocking.

01:26:03.000 It feels like they are You know, somehow working with the Dutch and the British in order to make us submit to their fear-mongering because one of the mantras they had in Parliament when they were forcing this bill through was that Iceland would become completely isolated.

01:26:24.000 We would become Cuba of the North or Zimbabwe of the north, Nigeria of the north, and that everybody would stop doing business with us. 0.99

01:26:35.000 We could not get loans anywhere, and our export would be in danger.

01:26:40.000 Nobody would want to invest in us.

01:26:41.000 So financial terrorism.

01:26:43.000 We had the same thing here in October of 2008.

01:26:46.000 They said, you will have martial law, you will have a collapsed economy, give us unlimited power, and then now there's talk of criminal charges against Geithner and others.

01:26:55.000 I mean, they're committing crimes.

01:26:57.000 It's the same people that robbed us, robbed you.

01:27:00.000 Why not have the people of Iceland swear out warrants and arrest these bankers that engaged in fraud?

01:27:06.000 That will end their propaganda immediately when the people openly see them in irons.

01:27:12.000 Yeah, that's what everybody's waiting for.

01:27:14.000 There is actually, I'm on a committee that has just been founded to go through the, there is a truth commission report coming out early next month.

01:27:24.000 And everybody's waiting in anticipation about what is going to be in that report.

01:27:30.000 I hope that both politicians who were sleeping or openly engaged in this scam And allowing all the institutions to be laid down or thwarted with new legislation.

01:27:46.000 And the criminals that stole the money and actually the guys that owned Lunchbunky, the iSave host, have been openly, you know, associated with the Russian mafia.

01:27:58.000 So we're dealing with very big elements here and that is why I think that The people in Iceland need more than anything to feel that we're not alone in the world.

01:28:09.000 That the people of the world, more than anything, are behind us.

01:28:13.000 And I'm starting an international petition where the only thing people need to do is just to say that they support us in this quest for freedom from this tyranny and blackmail.

01:28:25.000 And they've also been using the EU because what the new government did was to apply for membership of the European Union.

01:28:33.000 Despite the fact that the majority of the nation is not willing to join it.

01:28:38.000 And one, people have to bear in mind that even though we're very few, there are 320,000 people living on the island.

01:28:45.000 The island is the same size as Kentucky.

01:28:49.000 We have incredible resources.

01:28:52.000 And we are located very strategically for warfare.

01:28:57.000 That's why we had an American base here for, you know, since the Second World War until recently.

01:29:04.000 And since the Cold War stopped, then we became redundant as a location to the great joy of many.

01:29:10.000 But however, the north pathway for ships to travel from Asia to this part of the world in a much shorter and quicker way is opening.

01:29:24.000 All right, stay there.

01:29:25.000 Stay there.

01:29:26.000 Member of Parliament from Iceland leading the fight against the bankers.

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01:29:32.000 They're set to vote very soon on whether they're going to let the bankers continue their raping.

01:29:37.000 The bankers are now cornered in the London Guardian reports.

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01:29:46.000 We're going to talk about that when we come back.

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01:35:32.000 And joining us via video Skype from the capital of Iceland is the member of parliament and the chairman of her party that is really getting more and more seats and more and more popularity as the people stand up and find their legs against the bankers.

01:35:47.000 Birgitta Jones-Dottier, again, is our guest.

01:35:51.000 As we went to break, I was asking the question,

01:35:54.000 For people that just joined us, now that it looks like Iceland's gonna vote against paying this fraudulent debt to the bankers that have already robbed you, they just want more now, now they go, oh, suddenly we found all these assets in the bank, looks like you don't owe us, even though it's fraudulent, owe us as much as we thought, so now they're backing off, going, okay, we won't destroy you, we won't embargo you, we won't put blockades up, we won't destroy your nation after we already robbed it, if you just pay us a third of what we wanted.

01:36:24.000 So again, we're showing that these guys are paper tigers, straw men, if you'll just stand up and fight them.

01:36:30.000 And leading that fight, we are so honored to have you, and we salute you because we're all in this fight together.

01:36:36.000 Please continue.

01:36:38.000 Okay, I just want to clarify one thing, that the people that are really leading this fight are the people of Iceland.

01:36:44.000 Yes.

01:36:45.000 Yeah, but I mean, you come up in all the major newspapers around the world, and of anybody, you really are the figurehead, and a quite well-spoken one as well.

01:37:00.000 So, I mean, it's your face there on the front of the ship.

01:37:05.000 Well, in some aspects, but however, it's been a lot of people working on this and so I don't want to take all the credit for it.

01:37:14.000 One thing that we should also bear in mind when it comes to the Icelandic Saga, the Ice Age Saga and the entire collapse, is that I actually met with John Perkins last year, just before I got elected into Parliament, and I asked him, you know, what should we do to get rid of the IMF?

01:37:33.000 And he told me that the most important thing we could do, and I think the same applies to you in the States and all over the world, is that you are the creator of your reality.

01:37:46.000 And if you want changes, you are going to have to do something.

01:37:49.000 Okay.

01:37:51.000 And, you know, obviously we were hit by an economic hitman.

01:37:55.000 I don't know who it is or if there were many, but it is blatantly obvious.

01:37:59.000 And it was very interesting how Iceland, when we were actually doing really well, they decided to go into the biggest construction, constructing a huge dam.

01:38:10.000 In order to give Alcoa dirt cheap energy that nobody knows the price of.

01:38:15.000 And that's one of the battles, is just to find out how cheap they're getting the energy.

01:38:20.000 And the policy of the government that was previously, and the government that was previous to that, was basically to sell Iceland's energy They're cheap.

01:38:31.000 They were basically pimping Iceland.

01:38:34.000 If you were reading, if you would read some of the proposals on getting all the aluminum smelters into Iceland, which is by the way one of the last pristine nature in Europe, you would be shocked.

01:38:50.000 So there are many aspects to this saga and we're just in the beginning of understanding How deep it goes and it will be very interesting to see who are the corrupt people and if the nation has the guts to have them punished in one way or another for how they have sold out our country.

01:39:15.000 And the interesting thing as well is that when the British decided to use the Terrorist Act on Iceland, very similar to how the Chinese took over Tibet, the Tibetans didn't have any army, they had a few people with guns that were hunters, Icelanders don't have any army or military and our cops don't even carry guns.

01:39:36.000 So, you know, it's probably the least threatening nation in the world to being passed on side by side to Al-Qaeda and Zimbabwe and North Korea.

01:39:48.000 So, but the thing, the lesson to be learned for the rest of the people in the world is that we are the first one to be hit.

01:39:56.000 You could be next.

01:40:01.000 Absolutely.

01:40:02.000 The establishment is now moving on to gobbling up First World nations. 0.99

01:40:09.000 They're doing the same process here.

01:40:13.000 So this key vote coming up, I mean, is Iceland going to be able to not just stop the bankers from robbing you, but actually arrest some of these criminals or at least put arrest warrants out for them and signify that they are the criminals, they are the bad guys?

01:40:28.000 I mean, that will destroy them in the PR war if they're rightfully indicted for fraud.

01:40:34.000 Yeah, like some of them actually still owe the media, the main media, and they're still allowed to own it.

01:40:39.000 It's unbelievable.

01:40:41.000 But I think that we will have another, I mean, there is a huge wave of anger brewing again among the nation.

01:40:48.000 And if the president would not have allowed us to give us this responsibility of voting on this particular bill, There would have been another revolution and this time I fear it would have been more violent.

01:41:02.000 The other one was relatively soft.

01:41:06.000 But if the bankers and the people that are responsible for where we are at now are not going to get punished and put into jail or, you know, I would like to see them expelled from Iceland forever and ever, then we will have another revolution on our hands.

01:41:27.000 Well, I mean, what do you call people in thousands of demonstrations, hundreds, every day, taking over government buildings, protesting in the streets, saying no, no, no?

01:41:38.000 I've seen polls in Iceland where the vast majority are upset and saying they're not going to be part of it.

01:41:46.000 Can you give us some of those numbers?

01:41:48.000 Well, when we started protesting, you know, I come from that sort of grassroots level where I've organized protests and been part of protests for a long time in Iceland.

01:41:59.000 We were just a handful of us in the beginning.

01:42:02.000 There were actually more foreign media than us.

01:42:04.000 However, it gradually grew into thousands of people.

01:42:09.000 And because the numbers you would get in the Icelandic media would be always according to what the police estimated, because the media couldn't bother to go and count it, we only got accurate numbers when the foreign media came and counted the protesters, and it was thousands and thousands of people in some of the big protests.

01:42:29.000 And then when we had the soft revolution that in the end drove the government away, I don't know, there were people protesting day and night and it was in the middle of winter here, it was really cold.

01:42:48.000 I had a friend that got pneumonia from standing outside and they were doing this Uh, they, you know, they got all these drummers and all these people that were banging on pots and pans and were sort of similar to the revolution in Argentina.

01:43:02.000 The Pots and Pans revolution and that is what it was called in Iceland.

01:43:06.000 It was extremely noisy and it was driving the people in the Parliament crazy.

01:43:14.000 So maybe it was the noise that got them to resign, I don't know.

01:43:17.000 But it was getting quite violent.

01:43:20.000 There was a huge Christmas tree outside Parliament that the Norwegians always give us every Christmas.

01:43:25.000 And they took that and burned it down.

01:43:28.000 This sort of protest has not been happening in Iceland since we joined NATO.

01:43:33.000 Yeah, when the people started burning stuff down, the government started backing off.

01:43:38.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:43:39.000 And also the police was attacked, and they actually didn't have enough mace.

01:43:46.000 They were running out of mace, so they started to use tear gas.

01:43:49.000 And the moral is, when people actually finally get mad and take action, nothing, no amount of SWAT teams, no amount of garbage can stop them.

01:43:57.000 And people always forget, in revolution, the power of fire.

01:44:00.000 And I'm not saying that's something that needs to go on here, but I mean, look, A true revolutionary force cannot be stopped when it's got right on its side.

01:44:09.000 And so now they're backing off.

01:44:11.000 Also, people took over some buildings too, didn't they?

01:44:14.000 Well, they did not take over the Parliament or anything like that.

01:44:17.000 They did get into the National Treasury, but they didn't take it over.

01:44:21.000 They were just inside?

01:44:23.000 Yes, they were just inside.

01:44:26.000 I guess the media spun it and called it a takeover, just like for months they wouldn't even show your protest, or they'd show the corner of a small group and say, these five people are out here, and then if they would have panned the camera, which YouTube showed, tens of thousands, that's how they minimized that.

01:44:41.000 We've had events here in Austin with two, three thousand people.

01:44:44.000 The news will come shoot the back of the crowd or a corner and only show five or six people.

01:44:50.000 Yeah, that's so typical and I've actually, you know, been following what's going on in the States and seeing that, you know, the news that are not really broadcasted in the main media and It's an entirely different situation.

01:45:05.000 I mean, there are pretty grim things happening in the states right now.

01:45:10.000 Exactly, and they're trying to make the opposition right-wing, controlled by Glenn Beck and the Republicans, so that they can get back into power and continue the fraud, just like Obama continued the fraud.

01:45:21.000 But the truth is, the Tea Parties are really libertarian and grassroots.

01:45:25.000 Yeah, I've been actually following them because we're also working on this level that we think left and right is redundant and that what we really need to focus on are the issues and our causes.

01:45:36.000 And our movement, for example, does not define itself as left or right.

01:45:42.000 Our main objective is to bring more power to the people or the power that they rightfully own back to them.

01:45:49.000 So what's gonna happen?

01:45:50.000 What's gonna happen?

01:45:51.000 I mean, I know you can't tell the future, but right now, the banks are starting to back off and saying, okay, you don't owe us as much money.

01:45:57.000 I mean, they should go to jail, much less not...

01:46:02.000 Well, I think it's not really in the hands of the banks anymore.

01:46:05.000 It is in the hands of the British and the Dutch and the Icelandic governments.

01:46:09.000 And that is the big problem.

01:46:11.000 It is being driven through the financial ministries of these countries instead of taking it as what it is.

01:46:17.000 It is a foreign affairs issue.

01:46:20.000 Well, why can't your parliament march in and take over the Treasury? 0.97

01:46:24.000 There's nothing in the Treasury.

01:46:26.000 No, but I'm saying not let... I mean you're saying the bureaucracy is still making the decisions, but you're the boss.

01:46:32.000 You're the people's representative.

01:46:34.000 I mean...

01:46:36.000 Well, the thing is, you know, the petition and the fact that we get to vote on it, I really hope that they will not take that away from us.

01:46:43.000 They can take the voting from us by pulling back the bill.

01:46:48.000 But I really think it is extremely important that we have this national referendum because it will set an example for that the people can again call for national referendum if a certain percentage of the nation calls for it.

01:47:03.000 And that's coming up soon?

01:47:06.000 Yes, it's set for around 27th of February.

01:47:11.000 So we'll see what happens in the meantime.

01:47:13.000 I'm part of, since I'm acting chairman right now for the movement, I get to go to all the heads of state meetings and so forth.

01:47:22.000 And we're trying to form a sort of a joint approach to this, which I think is very important that the politicians who are supposed to be representing the nation come out with a strong message.

01:47:36.000 That we, you know, are not going to take this as it is today.

01:47:43.000 Because I feel it is, more than anything, a blackmail.

01:47:46.000 And especially, you know, because the British and the Dutch have also been saying that if we don't do what they say, our application to the EU is not going to happen.

01:47:56.000 But why would you want to be part of the EU and go under all their taxes and control?

01:48:01.000 Well, I don't want to do it, especially because I'm in the committee that deals with the application and I've seen what sort of thing the European Union is.

01:48:12.000 Oh, tell us what the European Union, as a Member of Parliament, seeing the application.

01:48:17.000 I mean, that's like saying, give us all your power or we won't beat you in the head with a hammer.

01:48:17.000 Tell folks what it does.

01:48:22.000 Don't you want to be beaten in the head with a hammer? 0.98

01:48:24.000 We're going to take away you being beaten in the head with a hammer if you don't do what we say. 1.00

01:48:28.000 You know, I mean, it's ridiculous. 0.99

01:48:30.000 It's like if you don't do what we say, we're not going to make you eat 20 pounds of rotten meat. 0.97

01:48:36.000 Well, it's a very strange organization, which is probably the heaven of bureaucrats.

01:48:45.000 The heaven of bureaucrats, yes!

01:48:50.000 But the Social Democrats, who are the biggest party now, it's been their dream for a long time to join the European Union, so they put in the application.

01:48:58.000 And they had sold the nation.

01:48:59.000 That was another con.

01:49:01.000 They sold the nation that, oh, in order for us to see, you know, what the European Union has to offer to us, we have to apply.

01:49:09.000 But they did not tell us that it actually is an integrational process.

01:49:14.000 And in the meanwhile, you know, while we're really suffering from this financial collapse, we're spending so much money on this particular application, whereas you could get all the information about the deal without applying.

01:49:29.000 Amazing, absolutely.

01:49:30.000 I mean, the EU is completely undemocratic.

01:49:33.000 The bureaucrats will take you over. 1.00

01:49:35.000 If you started saying you agreed with them, and if you voted for it, you'd suddenly have some $500,000, $300,000 lavish job in Brussels.

01:49:44.000 They're exempt from most of the taxes they levy on the countries.

01:49:47.000 I mean, that's the mark of corruption, is when the government is exempt from the laws the people are under.

01:49:56.000 I totally agree.

01:49:57.000 I don't think, you know, in any way if, you know, I were for the EU, this is not the right time to go and apply for membership because, you know, we're on our knees and that is not a good space to negotiate at all for a good deal.

01:50:11.000 But if the banks still take over and loot you guys, the public's gonna rise up again.

01:50:16.000 Certainly your populations learn the lesson that standing up's the answer.

01:50:21.000 Absolutely, and I really, really hope that by, you know, if we can get support from people from around the world who are fed up with the same sort of, you know, responsibilities they're given by the bankers, but basically, you know, they're basically erasing the middle class.

01:50:39.000 That's what they're doing.

01:50:40.000 Every time you get a house, you own a house, or you have savings, they suck it up when their bubbles burst.

01:50:46.000 So we need to do this together.

01:50:47.000 We do.

01:50:48.000 We're doing it together.

01:50:49.000 Final segment coming up.

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01:54:29.000 That's what the bankers are.

01:54:42.000 Birgitta Jones-Dottier, chairman of her party in Iceland, member of parliament.

01:54:48.000 She's with us for another five minutes in the next hour.

01:54:51.000 Then we are joined by Katherine Austin-Fitz.

01:54:54.000 You do not want to miss that on BankerGate.

01:54:57.000 This is the big issue that affects everybody.

01:55:00.000 And she was Assistant Secretary of Housing and Federal Housing Commissioner in the first Bush administration.

01:55:05.000 Always powerful interview.

01:55:07.000 But right now, let's go to your phone calls for our guests.

01:55:07.000 That's coming up.

01:55:11.000 Scott, you're on the air from Texas with our guests.

01:55:14.000 Go ahead, Scott.

01:55:15.000 Hi, Birgitte.

01:55:18.000 Back during the banking crisis when it hit the news here, Ron Paul was interviewed and asked his opinion of what we should do.

01:55:27.000 And of course he said, let the banks fail.

01:55:31.000 And then they asked Dr. Paul, well, what does Congress think we should do?

01:55:36.000 And Dr. Paul said, Congress doesn't have a clue. 0.82

01:55:42.000 Do you have the same frustration in Iceland that, would you say, is the same level that Dr. Paul has here of the ignorance, just plain old ignorance, that exists in the body of lawmakers?

01:55:57.000 Absolutely.

01:55:58.000 Thank you for this question.

01:56:00.000 I think it's actually been quite shocking to see the level of ignorance and lack of being able to see the whole picture.

01:56:08.000 And I remember I went to Parliament when they passed the emergency law.

01:56:13.000 I was just And then the expert bankers from the Treasury prance in and use a bunch of fancy language and tell them what to do.

01:56:18.000 parliament and they all looked like five-year-old children feeling really embarrassed about the situation.

01:56:24.000 It did not make me feel very comfortable.

01:56:26.000 And then the expert bankers from the treasury prance in and use a bunch of fancy language and tell them what to do.

01:56:32.000 It's time to arrest these people.

01:56:35.000 Absolutely.

01:56:36.000 One good thing about this entire economical collapse in Iceland, I don't know how it is in the States, is that people have actually educated themselves a lot about what real economy is.

01:56:47.000 Yes, it is waking people up.

01:56:48.000 That's been the good byproduct.

01:56:50.000 Yes.

01:56:51.000 So I have a tendency to try to look into, you know, what can we learn from it and are there any positive elements in the particular situation?

01:57:01.000 And I think there is a lot of good positive elements in this.

01:57:04.000 For me it is a dream come true to see the Atlantic wake up to realize that they can actually be the change makers in their own world.

01:57:13.000 Yes, real change, not fake Obama change.

01:57:16.000 Thank you, Scott.

01:57:16.000 Good question.

01:57:17.000 Fred in Ohio.

01:57:18.000 Your question to the lawmaker from Iceland.

01:57:21.000 Yes, my question to your guest, Alex, is how can we, the American people, support your fight in I saw in your fight for sovereignty and what supplies might be needed.

01:57:33.000 Well I'd say this, email their media, letters to the editor, call people you know in Iceland, spread the news, the articles that our guest Jones Dotier writes.

01:57:43.000 What else can they do to support your fight against the New World Order?

01:57:48.000 We're setting up a site that is going to be up in about a week called... I'm just reading out the site address.

01:57:56.000 It's not ready yet.

01:57:57.000 There's going to be probably something on it tomorrow.

01:58:00.000 It's SaveThePeopleOfIceland.com.

01:58:03.000 And I think more than anything the Icelandic people need to feel that they are supported by you guys who are listening to this and who have been reading my... Yes, SaveThePeopleOfIceland.com.

01:58:16.000 Mm-hmm.

01:58:17.000 SaveThePeopleOfIceland.com.

01:58:19.000 What great questions.

01:58:20.000 Anything else, Fred?

01:58:21.000 Thank you.

01:58:21.000 No, that's it.

01:58:22.000 We're going to come back and talk to Alex and Rick and a few others.

01:58:26.000 One-minute break.

01:58:27.000 Final five minutes with Birgitta Jones-Dottir.

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01:59:57.000 Here we are, already into hour number four. - Catherine Austin Fitts coming up at T-minus seven minutes.

02:00:16.000 Let's go right back to the calls for our guest, member of Iceland's parliament.

02:00:20.000 It's real leadership, the chairman of her party, against the banker takeover.

02:00:23.000 They got a good chance of beating them.

02:00:25.000 The bankers are already starting to fold and saying, okay, you don't have to be total slaves.

02:00:29.000 We'll let you keep a couple of Icelandic dollars.

02:00:33.000 Let's go to Alex in Georgia.

02:00:36.000 You're on the air with our guest Birgitta Jones-Dottir.

02:00:39.000 Go ahead.

02:00:40.000 Hey, Birgitta, I had a question that might be a little redundant from the last caller, but you mentioned something about an international online petition.

02:00:50.000 Is that still in the works, or is that something that could be at the website?

02:00:55.000 Yes, I'm actually putting it together, and I haven't had time to finish it off today, but it is going to be on this website, SaveThePeopleOfIceland.com.

02:01:07.000 And I guess the only thing that we're asking is that people just put their name there, that they support us in this battle.

02:01:13.000 Well, Iceland is the very front line of the bankers trying to rape and rob the first world.

02:01:19.000 We've got to stop them there, and we've got a good chance.

02:01:22.000 Anything else, Alex?

02:01:24.000 That said, just wondering where I can help out and support the cause.

02:01:29.000 Thank you for caring.

02:01:30.000 Birgitta, what else can we do to help Iceland?

02:01:34.000 Just spread the word and if you find any, if you happen to stumble across any information that might help us get the IMF out of Iceland, use services like Wikileaks because we feel that this is A much bigger problem than just Iceland's problem.

02:01:58.000 You know, like they said, experts in the European...

02:02:02.000 Law has said that it is actually a question if we have any legal responsibility in it.

02:02:08.000 It is a big legal question.

02:02:10.000 So, you know... You don't!

02:02:11.000 You have bankers that engaged in fraud.

02:02:13.000 The instruments sold to them by Goldman Sachs and others in the Bank of England are fraud.

02:02:18.000 They're using anti-terror laws to try to grab people's accounts.

02:02:21.000 They're threatening embargoes against your nation.

02:02:24.000 This is terrorism.

02:02:25.000 This is blackmail that must be defeated.

02:02:28.000 We can't let them devour your nation.

02:02:32.000 Absolutely true.

02:02:33.000 And like I said, this might just be the beginning.

02:02:36.000 We might be the first first world country to suffer from this sort of attack.

02:02:41.000 Well, we see Greece saying no.

02:02:43.000 We see other nations saying no.

02:02:45.000 We identify these frauds for what they are and let the banks fail.

02:02:48.000 The people don't owe this debt.

02:02:51.000 Thank you so much, Alex.

02:02:53.000 Rick in California, you're on the air.

02:02:55.000 Go ahead.

02:02:56.000 Yeah, thanks Alex for taking the call.

02:02:58.000 Real quick, I see a lot on the media, I watch a lot, I listen to you guys, I listen to a lot of other news sources.

02:03:04.000 The key thing I just was curious about is that you have a lot of these people now that are pushing for credit unions as like the new way to kind of help the economy or help feed the banks in some way, shape, or form of putting a run on the major banks.

02:03:16.000 But isn't that kind of like the tail wagging the dog type scenario?

02:03:22.000 Well, whatever you can do to decentralize, to get out of the big banks, to support local, it's all part of a process of learning and awakening to these parasites. 0.88

02:03:31.000 Birgitta? 0.70

02:03:32.000 Yeah, I totally agree.

02:03:33.000 Actually, one of the first things that I did during the collapse of the banks was to see if there were any banks in Iceland that had not been, you know, over-investing or, you know, part of this big scam.

02:03:47.000 And there were actually two banks that are found in Iceland and they're in the countryside.

02:03:52.000 So I moved, I actually didn't have much money.

02:03:56.000 So I moved the little money I had and all my transactions over to there.

02:04:00.000 And I encourage people not to participate in the big bank scams.

02:04:03.000 I mean, the only way to change anything is to change your own ways.

02:04:09.000 Absolutely.

02:04:09.000 And I'm trying to do that as well.

02:04:11.000 We have an operation that's international, so we do have some money in several big banks, but we're trying to move it into smaller banks, but that's a great idea.

02:04:19.000 Thank you so much, Rick.

02:04:20.000 I wish we could go to Randy and others, but we can't.

02:04:22.000 We could talk to Catherine Austin Fitz coming up, if you'd like.

02:04:26.000 Birgitta Jones-Dottir, member of the Icelandic Parliament.

02:04:30.000 We'll certainly have you back up as things unfold in this key battleground sector that you're in.

02:04:36.000 And we thank God that great people like yourself have been risen up to the fore in this key juncture in human society.

02:04:44.000 So we appreciate your fight for liberty and justice and the truth.

02:04:47.000 And we are with the people of Iceland against this tyranny.

02:04:51.000 God bless you.

02:04:52.000 God bless you.

02:04:53.000 Thank you.

02:04:55.000 We'll talk to you again soon.

02:04:56.000 Yes, bye-bye.

02:04:57.000 Bye-bye.

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02:08:29.000 I was talking to Birgitta Jones-Dottier, leading the charge to beat the banks in Iceland, not tooting my horn, an example of what you, the activists, have done.

02:08:40.000 A few months ago, she got a copy of The Obama Deception, and she already knew a lot, but that helped, you know, give her even more info.

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02:09:37.000 Now, Catherine Austen Fitch has an amazing bio.

02:09:41.000 She has managed more than $25 billion of transactions and invested today in his letter portfolio strategy for $300 billion of financial assets and liabilities.

02:09:51.000 She was also the number two person at the Department of Housing, Assistant Secretary of Housing.

02:09:59.000 The commissioner of the first Bush administration and it just goes on and on and on the things that she's done again Assistant Secretary of Housing Federal Housing Commissioner in the first Bush administration of President Hamilton Securities Group Washington DC Investment Bank super high-powered lady in the system coming out and exposing it and she's talked about the crimes committed by Geithner and other people and you have Geithner at the New York Fed that runs policy for the Fed you have

02:10:28.000 Paulson at the time at Treasury, the former head of Goldman Sachs, Geithner formerly of Goldman Sachs, giving themselves a hundred cents on the dollar for made-up derivatives they made that the public had no, you know, contractual agreement to pay for to them.

02:10:44.000 You have them also ordering AIG to make it secret.

02:10:47.000 And now that's continued on, and that clearly, according to Judge Napolitano and many others, is a federal crime.

02:10:53.000 But somebody who really understands this is Katherine Austin Fitts, so we're going to talk about Bankstergate or Bankergate.

02:10:59.000 I don't want to call it just Timmy Geithnergate.

02:11:01.000 Tiny Timgate, because he's just one of these people.

02:11:04.000 It goes to Larry Summers, it goes to Robert Rubin, it goes to Ben Bernanke, it goes to everybody that got rid of the Glass-Steagall Act.

02:11:12.000 So joining us is a true bonafide expert in all of this, Katherine Austin-Fitz.

02:11:16.000 Great to have you on with us.

02:11:18.000 Alex, it's always a privilege and a pleasure.

02:11:20.000 You know what I would love to tell everybody about is how important this Geithner story is.

02:11:30.000 You know, it kind of seems like a big sort of inside baseball squabble, but I really want everyone to understand what's at the heart of this.

02:11:37.000 Now, I want to use a metaphor.

02:11:40.000 Let's pretend you have a neighbor.

02:11:43.000 And every time, whenever you and your wife go to buy a car, you have to pay 5% to get a loan, but he can get a loan for 0% or 1%.

02:11:50.000 And then when you get a mortgage, you have to pay, you know, 8% to 10%, but he can get a mortgage for 0% or 1%.

02:11:57.000 And then when he starts a business, he can get special loans from the local municipality for 0%, and then you have to, you know, use your savings or borrow your money or take another loan on your house.

02:12:08.000 Well, it doesn't take long to figure that he's going to, you know, if this keeps going on, he's going to be able to buy up everything in town, right?

02:12:15.000 Yes.

02:12:16.000 And that's what this is about, is we've got two classes of players.

02:12:20.000 We've got a Federal Reserve Bank that's saying, we reserve the right to provide low-cost, if not free, cost of capital, and even now gifts.

02:12:30.000 You know, so instead of him borrowing money at 1%, they just give him the money so he can buy, you know, all the houses up in the neighborhood.

02:12:39.000 And what we're talking is a backdoor financial mechanism that allows a small group of people to basically buy up and take control of everything because they have, you know, low cost to free money, whereas everybody else has to pay, you know, market rate, you know, or a much higher rate, number one.

02:12:58.000 But number two, if, let's say, he gets in trouble, he gets bailed out, you get in trouble, you lose your house, you lose your car, you lose your family.

02:13:05.000 And so we're talking about a society that is turning into, you know, two societies, two economies, and one is getting rigged money.

02:13:16.000 And that's what this is about, because if you've got a Secretary of the Treasury who's basically trying to rig things, not for the people who are productive, not for the people who are making our economy strong, not for the people who are creating jobs, but the people who are the best dirty players, then, you know, it's, for a financial person, but the people who are the best dirty players, then, you know, it's, for a financial It can be.

02:13:38.000 It can never work, because instead of allocating capital based to, you know, who's productive, we're allocating capital to who's the best dirty player with the most inside pull.

02:13:48.000 You know, it's kind of devolved into, you know, the schoolyard in Lord of the Rings or something.

02:13:58.000 You know, in Animal Farm.

02:14:00.000 This is the financial version of Animal Farm, and that's what this is about.

02:14:05.000 Because we've seen, you know, since the beginning of the Republic, until two years ago, in all the wars, Alex, in all the programs, in all the government waste, in all the government spending, we've built up $12 trillion of debt.

02:14:18.000 And then, in a year and a half, This administration has lent or given as a gift $12 trillion to Wall Street and the financial firms.

02:14:32.000 And that is, can you imagine, that is an amount equivalent to all the money we've ever borrowed since the beginning of the republic.

02:14:40.000 It's incredible.

02:14:41.000 It's a financial coup d'etat.

02:14:44.000 And that's what it's about, and the power of this thing is, are we going to create a level playing field, or are we not?

02:14:51.000 Because if we're going to rig, if we've got a Secretary of the Treasury who's going to rig the game, you know, in visible, secretive ways, and one of the magical things here is, and I've got to give him a lot of credit, is Bloomberg has brought a lawsuit, they won in the first round in August, for Freedom of Information Act against the Federal Reserve.

02:15:13.000 Um, brought a lawsuit and won in the first round in August, and the Fed has now appealed.

02:15:19.000 It's in the Court of Appeals, and the Fed is saying, we need the ability to lend an insider group of firms $2 trillion, which is part of the $12 trillion, and not tell you who got it and on what terms.

02:15:34.000 And we don't have to provide that under freedom of information law.

02:15:37.000 It's just, it's an arrogance which takes your breath away.

02:15:41.000 And they're setting the precedent to do even more in the future.

02:15:46.000 And you talk about a rigged game where they get the free money and now it's just given to them.

02:15:50.000 They then use that money as weapons to buy off states, buy media, buy infrastructure, blow out third world countries, now blow out first world nations. 0.98

02:16:00.000 And they have their people in both parties, as you know, in all the major regulatory positions And I think that's why they're so arrogant now, is they're going for broke.

02:16:10.000 The big question is, and I want to get into how we can push to get Geithner indicted or a special prosecutor or something like that, but the big question is, where are they headed if we don't stop them?

02:16:22.000 Because they have the incentive to shut off money to Main Street so it's destitute, so they can come in and buy it up for pennies on the dollar.

02:16:30.000 Right, and that's what they're doing.

02:16:31.000 I mean, the reports now, if you look at the commercial real estate market, we haven't begun to see all the falls in the commercial real estate market.

02:16:40.000 Um, you know, they're talking about buying things at 50% or less of, you know, the market height.

02:16:45.000 And this is what I saw as Assistant Secretary of Housing.

02:16:47.000 I came in as Assistant Secretary of Housing in 1989, and at the time FHA was the largest property owner because of our foreclosures.

02:16:56.000 And then the RTC got created to handle the dispositions of the S&L.

02:17:02.000 And we started to auction off.

02:17:05.000 My secretary was on the board of the RTC, and so I was involved.

02:17:09.000 And we were taking in massive amounts of property, and the fraud, Alex, was off the charts.

02:17:14.000 You know, you'd get a portfolio that says, there are 10 mortgages on this block in Detroit, and you'd go there, and there were no houses there.

02:17:21.000 So the fraud was off the charts.

02:17:23.000 But what happened is, when the first bids came in, no one knew if the bids would work.

02:17:29.000 And I looked at the first three bids and I said, oh my God, the people buying this are buying at 10 cents on the dollar what their syndicate sold two years ago for, you know, 200% of market value.

02:17:41.000 So it was a pump and dump.

02:17:43.000 And they were going to make, you know, they were going to triple, quadruple the money they'd made selling out at the high.

02:17:49.000 So this is a scam.

02:17:51.000 And I think part of what may be different this time is you now have something you didn't have in 1989.

02:17:59.000 You know, we didn't have the internet.

02:18:00.000 We didn't have, you know, Alex Jones.

02:18:02.000 We didn't have all these different ways of communicating and seeing how monstrous the game was.

02:18:08.000 And the fraud is much bigger.

02:18:09.000 Oh, the fraud is so much bigger because they played the game.

02:18:12.000 You know, the black budget game happened in the real estate market, in the mortgage market in the 80s, but it didn't happen in the securities market.

02:18:23.000 And the other thing that didn't happen, Alex, was we didn't have what's called the Plunge Protection Team.

02:18:28.000 If you look at the market manipulation done by Treasury and the Fed as a matter of policy, we didn't have that.

02:18:37.000 You know, a firm like Goldman Sachs or the firms involved in this squabble now with Geithner, you know, they didn't begin to have the opportunities to trade on inside information that now exists.

02:18:48.000 You know, you've read the stories of front-running or naked short-selling.

02:18:51.000 You know, all these things have been documented, and I think, you know, when I first, I live in Hickory Valley, Tennessee, and when I first moved here in 1999, saying, that's it, I want out of Washington and Wall Street, they've gone nuts.

02:19:04.000 People here could not fathom the extent of the corruption, but what I see happening, which is so exciting, your story about the Obama deception is a great example, is people are beginning to realize, you know, this thing is not an adult You know, we're not watching a group of adults.

02:19:22.000 We're watching a group of people who've been getting away with it for so long that they are no longer connected to reality.

02:19:28.000 And the rest of us are seeing, you know, if a bunch of psychopaths can finance at 0%, and you and I are subject to not only the constraints of the market, but the regulations and costs they load and pile onto us, then there's no way out.

02:19:44.000 It's a little bit, Curtis Mayfield had a great song called New World Order Reset.

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02:24:12.000 The Democrats have now actually read it and discovered it's another bailout, another scam to the insurance companies owned by the banks.

02:24:18.000 I want to get Catherine Austin Fitts' take on that. 1.00

02:24:22.000 Also, they're now reporting hundreds of thousands dead in Haiti from the earthquake.

02:24:28.000 Hundreds of thousands dead.

02:24:30.000 I mean, they're talking about all Americans being naked body scanned and recorded, all courthouses having naked body scanners.

02:24:36.000 They're going in all over the country.

02:24:38.000 I found out two years ago, a year and a half ago, Denver already had it.

02:24:42.000 I'm kind of all over the map here.

02:24:43.000 It's just crazy.

02:24:44.000 Earthquakes kill hundreds of thousands, but we've all got to go through naked body scanners because somebody might blow an airplane up.

02:24:50.000 Oh, men and women are fighting in France.

02:24:54.000 150 plus people kill each other a year.

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02:25:00.000 That's the mindset of these tyrants and how they're selling us on tyranny.

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02:25:06.000 I've got a law enforcement article here where SWAT says options for multiple shooter tactics says we've got to get rid of posse commentatus and put the army on the streets.

02:25:15.000 Catherine, I'm all over the map here.

02:25:17.000 It's just... No, no, no, no.

02:25:18.000 You know, because you're dealing... You know, you see the... It's like the Pillsbury Doughboy.

02:25:22.000 You squeeze one place, it pops out another.

02:25:25.000 And what you're seeing is the lockdown across the board, and it's, you know, it's coming in in every direction.

02:25:31.000 And, you know, whether it's the economic insanity and sort of the two-class system, or it's the, you know, what they're doing is they're rolling out all sorts of different controls, because they know when people figure out that our retirement system has been basically moved offshore and now there's nothing to, you know, To keep the commitments, people are going to get upset, and by that time they plan to have the food system and the healthcare system and all these different systems under lockdown.

02:26:00.000 To me, one of the scariest ones you haven't brought up yet, Alex, is the idea of sending over a million Americans around to collect all sorts of data on all of us.

02:26:09.000 I'm sure you've had... Have you ever had Edwin Black on the show to...

02:26:13.000 To describe how the Nazis put together their original databases. 0.71

02:26:17.000 Yes, he wrote the book on IBM.

02:26:20.000 And yes, the census people are now telling people to tell them about their stocks and bonds and what type of toilet they have.

02:26:29.000 And now TSA is just downloading a large percentage of people's computers without warrants and just saying we're keeping it.

02:26:36.000 I mean, it's just wall-to-wall evil.

02:26:38.000 Meanwhile, Geithner and others, who is most to blame in the crime, in the criminal acts, from your expert view?

02:26:44.000 How do we get Geithner indicted?

02:26:47.000 I mean, there's open talk of it happening.

02:26:49.000 Okay, well, here, I think lots of pressure brought on, you know, this is a time when calls to Congress can make it very, and calls to the White House can make it very uncomfortable for the White House to not make a change here.

02:27:05.000 But at the heart of this matter, if you really want to make a significant shift, what we're going to have to do is work at the state and local level, and let me describe why.

02:27:14.000 Have you seen the Governor of Arizona's State of the State address yet?

02:27:20.000 No, I haven't.

02:27:21.000 Okay, it's fabulous.

02:27:23.000 She just came out and she said, and this is on healthcare, she said there are 14 Attorney Generals around the country, State Attorney Generals.

02:27:31.000 Now working together to prepare, you know, real 10th Amendment arguments to stop the implementation of this health care reform.

02:27:39.000 And if my Attorney General won't join them, I will.

02:27:44.000 Wow.

02:27:45.000 Right.

02:27:45.000 And where this is all going to come down, it's going to come down to 10th Amendment and where we can get a governor, an attorney general, and a majority of the sheriff in a jurisdiction.

02:27:56.000 Because you know, Alex, the sheriff is the most powerful Uh, you know, I mean, the Sheriff's Office is more powerful than the military.

02:28:05.000 Yes.

02:28:06.000 So, you know, but where we can align the Attorney General, the Governor, and the majority of the Sheriffs in the jurisdiction, that's what's going to happen.

02:28:13.000 Because the only thing that's going to stop this is when you say no.

02:28:17.000 And when they say that, when they declare the 10th Amendment, that's when we're going to have to have an argument about the cash flows.

02:28:23.000 Because you can't keep sending money to Washington If Washington keeps using it to break the law.

02:28:29.000 And it's not just Washington.

02:28:30.000 We have international banks running Washington.

02:28:33.000 I mean, we don't have our government.

02:28:35.000 Right.

02:28:35.000 Congress is not in control.

02:28:37.000 And so, you know, it's almost like we're at a party.

02:28:41.000 Everybody's drunk.

02:28:42.000 Everybody's stoned.

02:28:43.000 Everything's out of control.

02:28:44.000 Where do you build the power to say no?

02:28:46.000 And ultimately, what you're going to have to do is you're going to need a combination of two things.

02:28:52.000 A group of leadership, and it's going to come down to Governor, Attorney General, and sheriffs in a play.

02:28:57.000 And either sheriff to show up and break up the party.

02:29:00.000 Well, one, they're going to have to say no, but they're going to have to do something else, because what the federal government has been doing to prevent them from saying no is trying to get them to be financially dependent.

02:29:09.000 Yes.

02:29:09.000 And of course, the worst things get the economy, you know, we're in a downward spiral, and so we've got to reverse the economic spiral at the same time that you take a strong legal stand.

02:29:19.000 And that's going to come down to the cash flows.

02:29:21.000 And for years what I've said is, and you can do this if you get a Tenth Amendment movement in place, what I've said is, we ought to assert a common law right of offset for any money that's been wasted, spent, or is missing by criminal means.

02:29:35.000 Alright, Catherine, not to interrupt, a long segment coming up.

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02:34:00.000 Okay, you got cut off by the break.

02:34:02.000 And you were getting into where all this is going, what these people are doing, the police state grid they're setting up, the magnitude of Bankstergate, and you very astutely, people said, well wait, Obama's been in office less than a year.

02:34:18.000 Right at a year next week.

02:34:20.000 How can she say this administration for a year and a half?

02:34:23.000 But all of my expert guests said that the last six months or so of Bush's reign, the power was fully given over to the Federal Reserve, to the banks, and that you had total fusion and coordination between the Bush bankers and the Obama bankers.

02:34:41.000 This is completely bipartisan.

02:34:43.000 Yes.

02:34:44.000 You know, this is people who believe in freedom against people who don't.

02:34:47.000 And it's got nothing to do with those kind of party lines.

02:34:51.000 So this is totally bipartisan, and in fact, if you look at the people who've stayed between the Clinton administration and the Bush administration, or then held over between the Bush administration, at a deeper level, it's the same team.

02:35:04.000 So this is not, you know, this is not two-party system is the one, you know, it's the party of just us.

02:35:11.000 So now the opportunity again, Alex, is if in those states where we have alignment between the governor, the attorney general, and the sheriff, or majority of the sheriffs, and you can take a legal stand, then the question is how do you re-engineer the cash flows then the question is how do you re-engineer the cash flows so that the, you know, so that the federal government and the Federal Reserve don't pull the rug out from

02:35:35.000 And so there has to be an economic plan that has to deal with all the money we're sending to Washington and all the money we're getting back, and the reality is I think they're very powerful legal arguments that say, at a state or local level, you can assert common law right of offset for all the money that's been stolen, all the money that's missing, escrow federal taxes, and say, you know something, don't send any money, we'll pay our own stuff here, and literally take control of the cash flows.

02:36:03.000 But what it's going to mean is, in a lot of different industries, we're going to have to start behaving in very productive ways.

02:36:10.000 One of the ways that the money has worked is the banksters are allowed to get away with murder because we get a lot of subsidies and we've allowed to, you know, we've allowed ourselves to get very unproductive.

02:36:21.000 So we have, for example, we have a whole local medical community and the infrastructure in every one of our places in state that is used to very, you know, it's got a very high cost infrastructure.

02:36:33.000 So we're all going to have to organize and change And the biggest one is we now have, you know, say I live in a county, the war on drugs is our biggest business.

02:36:43.000 It's our biggest industry.

02:36:45.000 And we don't have enough people to farm, because everybody's too busy dealing or growing drugs.

02:36:51.000 So, you know, we're going to have to change the local level, and we're going to have to get very, very productive.

02:36:56.000 Now, if we're willing to do that, we can absolutely turn around the, you know, the economic spiral, because it's small business that creates jobs, and at some point, Prisons and drug dealing is not something that makes a nation great.

02:37:09.000 The parasite economy is killing the host.

02:37:16.000 It is now eating through a great deal of muscle and we have another year or two or three to make this change, but if we don't make it in a year or two or three, then we will have gone across into the abyss.

02:37:33.000 So, we have a period now, and it's all going to come down to the state and local governments, whether we can get a turn.

02:37:40.000 And my guess is, in some places you can, and some you can't.

02:37:43.000 You and I are both speaking.

02:37:45.000 I'm in Tennessee, you're in Texas.

02:37:46.000 We're in states where the governors have played a leadership role in the 10th Amendment, and there are a lot of sheriffs, and there's a lot of infrastructure.

02:37:54.000 And this is not impossible.

02:37:55.000 I mean, we have more and more states, 30 plus, moving towards Tenth Amendment declarations.

02:38:00.000 The media spins that like it's secession or something.

02:38:04.000 It's not.

02:38:04.000 It's declaring Tenth and Ninth Amendment.

02:38:06.000 And we have those success stories and leaders at the state level that will speak out and will be bold.

02:38:13.000 We can then catapult that movement also into Washington and accurately assess the criminals That we're facing, and so we do see some bright things happening.

02:38:25.000 Right.

02:38:25.000 What we've seen up until now is every time you start to see at the state and local level, people start to really stand up and lead.

02:38:33.000 That way they get bought off.

02:38:35.000 You know, the bankers are willing to throw an awful lot of money to buy a leader off.

02:38:40.000 Or their girlfriend.

02:38:41.000 Right.

02:38:41.000 You know, they play the control file, they play the dirty trick, they play the entrapment.

02:38:46.000 You know, there's all sorts of positive incentives and negative games they can play.

02:38:50.000 And I think the question is, is there a way we can communicate and organize locally so that they can't?

02:38:55.000 Because if you look at all the different laws that are happening right now, health care, food safety is a big one, census, all these things, we are across the constitutional line.

02:39:06.000 And the important thing I want to make, really the important point everybody needs to get in their spirit is, these are the things that are destroying the economy.

02:39:14.000 I mean, when you, it's like taking a horse or taking a boxer.

02:39:19.000 And tying his hands and tying his legs and then putting him in the ring.

02:39:22.000 He's going to lose.

02:39:23.000 So when you make this many rules and you overlay this much expense on small business, you kill the heart of the economy.

02:39:31.000 And so all of this stuff is what's killing the economy.

02:39:37.000 You turn that around and you can unleash incredible wealth.

02:39:40.000 Let me give you a perfect example.

02:39:42.000 Do you know who is the number one provider of services to the food stamp program in this Alex?

02:39:50.000 Yes, it's Offshore Central Banks.

02:39:54.000 It's JPMorgan Chase, and they outsource the data servicing to India, which means in Tennessee, which is one of the states where they provide the services, we now have 20% of our population on food stamps, okay?

02:40:09.000 So, more than a million people on food stamps, and those people, many of them get unemployment checks or welfare checks.

02:40:17.000 They get food stamps.

02:40:19.000 And they sit around and we pay them not to work.

02:40:21.000 Meantime, we have Bocu, beautiful farmland.

02:40:24.000 You know, the farmers can't find labor.

02:40:27.000 Everybody's too busy, you know, dealing drugs or, you know, being on whatever government subsidy.

02:40:32.000 And we've got the big agribusiness moving down into Latin America, controlling the agriculture, you know, shipping the food in.

02:40:42.000 It's highly processed.

02:40:43.000 It makes us sick.

02:40:45.000 That's part of the healthcare problem. 0.99

02:40:47.000 And so, and JPMorgan Chase is doing the servicing work, and the theory is that we can pay somebody in India or in Latin America to do something that the people who are getting those food stamps could do here, and it's cheaper to pay them not to work and then pay somebody else in Latin America to do the farming, and somebody in Asia to do the data servicing, and that's just not true.

02:41:08.000 The numbers don't add up.

02:41:10.000 And that's why, if the state and local players can sit down and say, Okay, how can we re-engineer this, move all those jobs back to our state, do this on an economic basis?

02:41:22.000 Where is the opportunity to create lots more cash flows into the local small businesses, lots more equity, lots more skills, lots more knowledge?

02:41:31.000 You know, it's all there, but you're going to have to deal with, okay, we can't let the Feds have control because they're literally draining our lifeblood. 0.93

02:41:40.000 It's like a vampire.

02:41:41.000 Well, I think the number one mission is to continue to point out there are criminals out in the open who won't say where trillions of dollars went, and then we find out it went to them personally, and they ordered the holding companies that they laundered the money through, like AIG, to not, in federal filings, tell the feds or the public that the very bankers running policy and government were the ones that were getting the money.

02:42:03.000 I mean, a five-year-old can understand That basic fraud, and the fact that we do hear talk of indictment on MSNBC, and we do even see Ed Schultz saying, man, Obama's really bad.

02:42:15.000 What about the Obama hoax?

02:42:16.000 I mean, obviously, it's all dog and pony show.

02:42:20.000 Obviously, eight years of Bush, people figure out he's a fraud, the new savior.

02:42:24.000 He's just meant to con people long enough for them to get their agenda through.

02:42:28.000 Then, Glenn Beck's organizing the right wing to get Republicans back in.

02:42:32.000 The reality is the change we're talking about.

02:42:35.000 cannot be engineered to Washington.

02:42:37.000 Alex, we need to be president tomorrow.

02:42:38.000 No, I know, but we need to discredit Washington is what I'm saying.

02:42:41.000 What?

02:42:41.000 So that people will accept the states taking back over.

02:42:45.000 You have got to make the changes because the reengineering that has to happen in Austin, Texas, is totally different than the reengineering that has to happen in Hickory Valley, Tennessee.

02:42:56.000 And so there's got to be a fundamental economic change bottom up.

02:43:00.000 Okay, here's an example.

02:43:01.000 In Austin, they spend $170 million on the buses that 1% of Austin uses, and they spend $70 million on the roads.

02:43:09.000 I mean, Austin is run by, they're not liberals, they're a bunch of criminals that openly rob and steal everything, steal property. 0.91

02:43:17.000 I mean, everywhere I go, it's just crooks running everything. 0.97

02:43:20.000 Right, and you know why?

02:43:22.000 Because we have created a financial mechanism That would allow us to borrow massive amounts of money globally, and so we've had massive amounts of money, and as long as the criminals could engineer that subsidy, this could keep going and they could offer more money at cheaper prices, and we've been willing to go along with that.

02:43:41.000 Now, do you remember my red button story?

02:43:44.000 Yes, but I'll recap it.

02:43:46.000 Okay, so I was giving a speech to a group of people called Spiritual Frontiers Foundation.

02:43:51.000 They have a conference once a year to talk about how we can evolve our society spiritually.

02:43:56.000 Very committed, dedicated people.

02:43:59.000 I'm in the middle of the speech and explaining that the Department of Justice in 1999 had told a reporter I was working with that the U.S.

02:44:05.000 economy launders $500 billion to a trillion dollars a year of all dirty money.

02:44:08.000 So, not just narcotics trafficking, but illegal gambling, tax evasion, financial fraud, everything.

02:44:14.000 Okay, now with the financial fraud, it's much bigger.

02:44:17.000 But at that time, $500 billion to a trillion.

02:44:19.000 So I said to this wonderfully spiritual-evolved audience, if you could push a red button to stop all hard narcotics trafficking in your community, your neighborhood, your country tomorrow, thus offending the people who control all this money, who here would push the button?

02:44:34.000 Out of 100 people, only one would push the button.

02:44:37.000 I said, why would you not push the button?

02:44:39.000 They said, we don't want our mutual funds to go down.

02:44:42.000 We don't want our government checks to stop.

02:44:43.000 But see, that's the scam.

02:44:45.000 Justice be done.

02:44:46.000 May the heavens fall.

02:44:47.000 I mean, all of these parasitic systems cost more than they make, and they're wrong.

02:44:53.000 Right.

02:44:53.000 And so, what it's going to come down to is, we've seen the Fed monetize the whole treasury and mortgage market last year.

02:45:02.000 And so, obviously, you can't keep monetizing at this rate.

02:45:07.000 And so now the day has come where the bell is ringing and saying, we can't get free money forever anymore, so something's got to give and we've got to change.

02:45:17.000 And those changes are going to happen, Alex, in the places where our governors, our attorney generals, and our sheriffs can come together, assert 10th Amendment right, and now we're all going to have to support them in re-engineering the economic flows.

02:45:31.000 But when it comes out the other side of the sausage maker, we're all going to have to be a lot more productive.

02:45:38.000 Well, it is true that half the population is on some form of government dole, or payment, or job, and the government's only getting more aggressive, more parasitic, more militarized.

02:45:49.000 Right.

02:45:49.000 And what the cops and the bureaucrats don't understand is, the bankers have already moved offshore.

02:45:55.000 They're literally, for three years, been buying homes offshore.

02:45:58.000 They believe they're probably going to lose control, but they've already run off with a bag of money.

02:46:03.000 Right.

02:46:04.000 And that's why this guy, I think it is very, very important.

02:46:08.000 I said in my year-end wrap-up, which I called the year of the giant vampire squid, the wonderful story from Rolling Stone, declared Goldman Sachs the giant vampire squid.

02:46:20.000 Basically what these guys did, Alex, in the 90s and early 2000s, they moved trillions of dollars out of the country, a lot of it illegal.

02:46:29.000 To do that, they issued massive fraudulent securities and derivatives, and what this bailout did was It refinanced them out of the fraud, and so they have pulled off not only the financial coup d'état, but pushing the liabilities for the fraudulent securities they issued to do it back onto the taxpayers.

02:46:48.000 And they're, you know, they're basically, they're pulling their train out of the station and leaving us to grapple.

02:46:53.000 And they're moving their base of operations to China and openly bad-mouthing America and saying it's not a good place to invest to further depress it so they can buy everything up.

02:47:02.000 The door is not completely shut.

02:47:05.000 The Geithner, a Geithner investigation and indictment, because we now have, remember we have Geithner saying, oh, you know, I proposed a deal where I didn't give Goldman Sachs 100 cents on the dollar, and they said they were fully hedged, so they didn't care, and they'd rather see it default, and they'd pick it up on the other side.

02:47:25.000 And we now have the Goldman CEO and Chairman saying, in testimony today, well, wait a minute, you know, nobody offered me that deal.

02:47:33.000 So one of them has got to be lying.

02:47:35.000 So we now have pitted the Secretary of the Treasury and the Chairman of Goldman Sachs, and one has got to be lying.

02:47:40.000 So if you can turn this into, you know, testimony under oath investigation, You know, you can still open a door and unravel this whole thing.

02:47:51.000 So it is not, you know, it's never, it's never, since I'm a big woman, I hate to say it, it's never over until the fat lady thinks, but it's never over until the fat lady thinks.

02:48:00.000 So I think that, I think your hammering on the Geithner and a possible Geithner indictment is very, very important, because let me tell you, it is inconceivable to me that there is, that Geithner is not criminally liable for what's happened.

02:48:14.000 Well, we have to pierce this veil of infallibility and potpourri, or whatever you want to call it, where the elites just stumble around in fancy suits with SWAT teams around them saying, I will rob this, I will rob that.

02:48:27.000 Everyone just bows down to them.

02:48:29.000 And the image of these criminals being indicted or in trouble, like Watergate, but these crimes are a trillion times that, literally.

02:48:36.000 Could bring them down, just like Copenhagen went down.

02:48:40.000 The whole Copenhagen thing went down in flames.

02:48:42.000 The banks wanting to leverage a new Ponzi scheme on global carbon tax.

02:48:46.000 I mean, on every front, they're in trouble.

02:48:48.000 Well, do the math.

02:48:50.000 On that one trade, Geithner gave Goldman Sachs $10 billion.

02:48:56.000 Okay?

02:48:58.000 Now, if the average American taxpayer pays $100,000 lifetime, $100,000 of federal taxes in a lifetime, say, How much is $10 billion divided by $100,000?

02:49:08.000 That's how many people are going to work their whole life for that one giveaway by Timmy Geithner.

02:49:15.000 In other words, don't think of it as $10 billion.

02:49:19.000 Think of it as—we've got to do the math—think of it as that many lives.

02:49:24.000 It's slavery. 0.97

02:49:26.000 I mean, it's literally slavery.

02:49:28.000 Let me do the math.

02:49:29.000 And it sets the precedent for even—if we don't stop them now, They're setting up new bubbles, new scams, new frauds.

02:49:37.000 Right, so if I'm not mistaken, 100,000 people are going to work their entire life to pay the taxes for Geithner to do that.

02:49:47.000 You know, and it's not just, here's the thing Alex, it's not just Americans, it's people all over the world, because people all over the world are being forced to buy Treasury securities.

02:49:58.000 You know, it's a global taxation system.

02:50:00.000 They buy Treasury securities, the Treasuries go down 5-10% a year, and so they get drained, just like communities all over America are being drained.

02:50:08.000 It's global, it's not just in America.

02:50:11.000 And so, you know, here, I mean, people are giving up luxuries, you know, or now necessities to play this game.

02:50:18.000 But, you know, people are losing their lives all over the world because of this drain.

02:50:23.000 So it's not just when you give away $10 billion, you know, say it costs you to give away 100,000 tax lives in America.

02:50:30.000 But you're literally giving away lives, you know, around the world.

02:50:34.000 So it's a slavery, it's a slavery system engineered through financial means, and it's highly invisible, but I think we're beginning to understand it.

02:50:43.000 It is a high-tech slavery.

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02:54:18.000 I saw the trailer we put up for it on YouTube and there's some guy in there saying, Jones is being sensationalist.

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02:55:08.000 And she breaks down precious metals, you name it. 1.00

02:55:10.000 Just incredible, incisive info on the economy.

02:55:15.000 Catherine Austin Fitz, where do you see gold going?

02:55:17.000 Even though they've been trying to drive it down, it's going back up now.

02:55:20.000 Well, I think we're in a long-term bull market for what I call tangibles, real things.

02:55:25.000 Throughout history, through investment history, Alex, you go through periods where financial assets perform much better than tangibles, and then tangibles perform much better than financial assets.

02:55:38.000 But what's happening is the investor, Jimmy Rogers, somebody asked him whether he believes in peak oil.

02:55:43.000 He said, forget peak oil, let's peak everything.

02:55:45.000 And, you know, the fundamental economics of the planet is we have 6 billion people and growing, and there's only so much real stuff, whether it's space metals or precious metals, commodities.

02:55:57.000 So we're absolutely in a long-term bull market.

02:56:00.000 And when you have all this inflation and paper scams, people always run back for real assets.

02:56:05.000 Right, and that's, you know, if you look at the one currency that people recognize, not because anybody requires them to or not because the government has it, the law, But the currency that is liquid and recognized all around the world is gold and silver.

02:56:19.000 And so I think what you're seeing is a lot of, you know, we've printed all this paper, whether it's Treasury securities or derivatives or other kinds of fiat currencies, and, you know, and now people are saying, well, you know, what can I hold that's real?

02:56:36.000 And not only that, what can I hold that's real that I can put in my pocket and take with me?

02:56:41.000 So I think we're in a long-term bull market for precious metals.

02:56:43.000 I don't think it's a, you know, it's a magic bullet.

02:56:47.000 You know, you can't, it's not food, it's not water, you know, so it's no magic bullet.

02:56:51.000 It's very volatile.

02:56:52.000 But it's got to be part of your portfolio.

02:56:54.000 You know, this is definitely an asset that people should understand and consider.

02:56:59.000 I'm loathe to say it should be in everybody's portfolio because everybody's different, you know, and so there's unique, you know, it's unique for everybody.

02:57:07.000 It's extremely volatile, so it's something that you Before you tiptoe into this, it's something you really, really want to learn, and we have some great audio seminars.

02:57:18.000 Of course, on the Solera Report, we do one a month on precious metals, so there's a lot of good information if you want to learn more.

02:57:26.000 Well, Catherine, I appreciate you spending time with us.

02:57:29.000 Even if we don't get Geithner indicted and they're talking about it and they're having congressional hearings about it, we can at least politically convict them and politically crucify them because they deserve it.

02:57:43.000 And just openly in the court of public opinion, explain these are a bunch of swindlers, so as they try to carry out more scams in the future, people don't buy into it.

02:57:53.000 It's so important, Alex, that everyone understand That we're looking at a group of people who really have gone across the line and are not going to come back.

02:58:06.000 These are not responsible leaders that we can look to.

02:58:09.000 These are people who are across the line in something that is really, if it keeps going, is going to kill many of us.

02:58:17.000 Well, that's it.

02:58:17.000 I mean, they have already stolen tens of trillions, robbed, committed crimes openly.

02:58:23.000 Why not commit a million more crimes?

02:58:25.000 And they're wrecking society to do it.

02:58:28.000 Order out of chaos.

02:58:29.000 Catherine Austin Fitz, thank you so much for spending time with us.

02:58:34.000 Retransmission with so many incredible guests starts now.

02:58:38.000 Infowars.com.

02:58:41.000 Great job, crew! 0.88

02:58:41.000 Thank you for listening to GCN. 0.88

02:58:42.000 Excellent, excellent, excellent.

02:58:44.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

02:58:46.000 All right, folks, retransmission starts now.

02:58:48.000 Stick with us.

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Alex Jones Show - January 13, 2010

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