Alex Jones Show - 20100205_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:03.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:00:13.000 We are now eight minutes into this second hour on this Friday edition.

00:00:18.000 We've got a key article up at InfoWars.com titled, Top Ten Problems with Assassinating American citizens.

00:00:30.000 The government says it can assassinate U.S.

00:00:33.000 citizens.

00:00:33.000 I remember five years ago seeing a Jerusalem Post article, then a UPI article, and then a Reuters story where Israel said that they would kill American citizens inside the U.S.

00:00:46.000 and I thought that was pretty shocking.

00:00:48.000 They were connected to Alciada. 0.95

00:00:50.000 Now our own government says, abroad or domestically, they will send in hit teams to kill whoever they want.

00:00:56.000 No judge, no jury, no getting sent to Guantanamo Bay and tortured for six, seven, eight years, and then put on a kangaroo trial. 0.99

00:01:04.000 Now they'll just kill you.

00:01:05.000 I want to get more into that coming up today.

00:01:11.000 And how it dovetails with this complete federal takeover of our society that's happening.

00:01:17.000 Again, Obama has appointed this 10-member gubernatorial board.

00:01:22.000 Bush started this.

00:01:24.000 Again, seamless integration with Homeland Security.

00:01:28.000 We pointed out when we were leaked the MIAC report.

00:01:31.000 We were leaked a California report and a Missouri report.

00:01:34.000 For some reason, the Missouri report got all the attention.

00:01:39.000 Then we were leaked the federal report.

00:01:42.000 Where Homeland Security and NORTHCOM are set up for the American people.

00:01:46.000 We are seen as the enemy.

00:01:47.000 We are the people that this is designed for.

00:01:50.000 Because the foreign banks taking over our country know what they're doing is criminal. 1.00

00:01:55.000 And we pointed out that the earlier version of that same coded MIAC report, the same code number, had been issued in April of 2008, before Obama even got into office.

00:02:09.000 So it was Bush's people doing that.

00:02:12.000 But the neocons picked it up and spun it.

00:02:14.000 So this Governor's Council was started by Bush, Obama expanded it with an executive order, has now ceded it to quote, work with the states to counter terrorism.

00:02:25.000 And the governor that put out the first MIAC report, which is a mirror of the federal report, Governor Nixon is the head of that subsection of the Governor's Council for Homeland Security.

00:02:37.000 And so we're going to be, again, breaking that down today.

00:02:41.000 We have some excellent articles from last month that detail all this, but we now know who the Governor's Council is made up of.

00:02:47.000 Again, we'll cover that next hour, exactly who these people are.

00:02:50.000 Obama expands federal power over the states with executive order.

00:02:54.000 Kurt Nemo, Infowars.com.

00:02:57.000 We have another key report here from Prison Planet.

00:03:00.000 Paul Joseph Watson, PDD 51.

00:03:03.000 A new executive order.

00:03:04.000 Give Obama dictator power.

00:03:09.000 Last roadblocks to martial law United States eliminated.

00:03:14.000 And we have the cyber security boss again resigning last year saying the Pentagon is taking over the web.

00:03:20.000 And then we get the secret treaty that Obama is saying he's going to sign with the UN.

00:03:24.000 This is official news as of three months ago, but was only in a few newspapers.

00:03:28.000 Just massive.

00:03:30.000 Import, but the average person doesn't even know, saying they do plan to ratchet down and shut down the web and make you have an ID to get on the web and track everything you're doing.

00:03:39.000 China doesn't even make you have a web ID.

00:03:42.000 They just filter and block most things with Microsoft technology that Bill Gates had put in there.

00:03:48.000 Now, of course, it comes out what we reported five years ago with our CIA source, Steele.

00:03:55.000 Mr. Steele, we need to get him back on.

00:03:59.000 And in that report that came out in the Washington Post on Wednesday, In fact, I've got it here in my stack.

00:04:11.000 Google to enlist NSA to help it ward off cyber attacks.

00:04:15.000 That's the spin.

00:04:16.000 But five years ago, Google moved in with NASA at a research facility.

00:04:20.000 They're putting in the control grids.

00:04:23.000 Yahoo's involved.

00:04:24.000 No one is involved as much as Microsoft in all of this as well.

00:04:33.000 So we need to ask the question, As citizens, are we going to allow ourselves to become like China? 0.93

00:04:42.000 Are we going to let this control grid be put in place to take over our society?

00:04:49.000 That is a very important question to ask.

00:04:53.000 And we'll be discussing it coming up in the next hour.

00:04:56.000 Right now we're joined by Damon Vickers of Nine Points Capital Partners.

00:05:01.000 The website is www.nps.us.

00:05:08.000 For some reason, I can't read that.

00:05:13.000 www.npm.us.

00:05:17.000 And, of course, he's a big pundit all over national television for major publications.

00:05:25.000 And Damon Vickers is one of the very few who has successfully navigated both bull and bear markets profitably over the last 25 years.

00:05:33.000 His clients and investment partners have invested.

00:05:36.000 In a who's who of some of the best performing stocks the last two decades.

00:05:41.000 Companies like Cisco Systems, Starbucks Coffee, and Amazon.com to name a few.

00:05:46.000 Damon called the top of the equities market in 2000 and 2008.

00:05:50.000 During the worst market year since 1987, one of his funds had a 63% returns.

00:05:56.000 It says Damon's trend following approach allows him to embrace both up and down markets equally.

00:06:06.000 Fluid investment styles resulted in him consistently being named one of the top money managers in the country.

00:06:12.000 And again, he's with, and heads up, npm.us.

00:06:18.000 I was having a dyslexic moment there.

00:06:21.000 Damon, it's good to have you back on with us.

00:06:23.000 Hey, good to be with you as well, Alex.

00:06:25.000 Good morning, good afternoon to everybody.

00:06:26.000 Where do you join us from today?

00:06:28.000 We're in the beautiful island of Kauai.

00:06:32.000 Out near Haina, and we've got a nice house here right on the ocean, and it's a pretty nice day today.

00:06:42.000 Wish I was there.

00:06:42.000 I've never gotten to go to Hawaii.

00:06:44.000 I'm too busy here in the info bunker.

00:06:46.000 Oh, I know, and I know.

00:06:47.000 Well, if you've been here about, I guess, three weeks ago, we could have hung out with Julia Roberts and her kids.

00:06:54.000 Really?

00:06:54.000 She just bought the house next door.

00:06:57.000 Wow!

00:06:57.000 That would be really cool!

00:06:58.000 drop willie nelson invited me and he really did he said come out for a week and play dominoes and chess with him and woody harrelson in maui i think that's where he said wow but unfortunately that would really be cool that would be neat yeah but uh i'd be uh permanently stoned if i did that though i'd be i'd be forced to to to to draw off the vaporizing hookah oh I know it.

00:07:23.000 I could just imagine it.

00:07:24.000 I know it.

00:07:25.000 I know it.

00:07:25.000 Yeah, it's probably something we should talk about today, actually, at some point.

00:07:29.000 All the push for medical marijuana to keep everybody all doped up.

00:07:33.000 Yeah.

00:07:35.000 Now, you know, I may disagree with you on that, because the government's pushing Ritalin, Prozac, all these really toxic things.

00:07:41.000 I know people abuse marijuana, but I don't see marijuana as bad as alcohol.

00:07:45.000 I guess you're against marijuana decriminalization?

00:07:49.000 No.

00:07:49.000 No, I'm not.

00:07:51.000 I don't think the government should probably actively preclude anybody from doing hardly anything.

00:07:58.000 However, as a society, The medication, the medicating ourselves, whether it be through Paxil or Depakote or Aleve, or smoking pot all day, is just really the wrong direction.

00:08:11.000 I think not only for individuals, but as a nation.

00:08:14.000 And it dulls the mind, it dulls the senses.

00:08:17.000 And it does not allow, I would argue, that excessive use of marijuana doesn't help a person really focus, really.

00:08:26.000 And they're just kind of lazy and lethargic.

00:08:28.000 No, I've seen a lot of zombie... We've got a real problem with non-motivation in this country, as it is in most of the Western nations.

00:08:36.000 And so I think medicating with Paxil, Depakote, Aleve, and increasingly marijuana, I don't think, or alcohol, doesn't really do anything to help us.

00:08:45.000 Well, I agree with you, and I do know a lot of zombie potheads, but I also know a lot of people that smoke it sparingly who are, you know, great professionals.

00:08:53.000 My issue is, I don't want to pay to put them in prison, and I know the government and big banks have been caught controlling the drug trade and laundering the money for a long time.

00:09:01.000 Good.

00:09:01.000 I definitely agree with that.

00:09:03.000 You know, they're putting people in prison because they drink too much alcohol or too much pot or whatever other adventures they may find themselves doing.

00:09:14.000 I don't think that makes any sense.

00:09:16.000 All right, Damon, the reason we've got you on today is because you are a very successful financial trends forecaster and expert.

00:09:22.000 We want to pick your brain, and we're going to go to break here in a moment.

00:09:24.000 We've got a few minutes here, so I want to go ahead and throw this out.

00:09:28.000 We're seeing reports where they're talking about bankruptcy for the United States is now certain.

00:09:35.000 We've got George Soros basically calling a plunge in gold last week.

00:09:40.000 We have central banks going in trying to prop up the dollar, drive down gold.

00:09:44.000 Why?

00:09:45.000 We have CNBC reporting market crash if U.S.

00:09:48.000 policies continue.

00:09:51.000 So we have all this volatility, stocks plunging yesterday.

00:09:55.000 What is causing all of this, Damon Vickers?

00:09:58.000 Well, we've got a number of things going on.

00:10:00.000 Critically, you know, we started this off talking about marijuana.

00:10:04.000 But how does that relate to the whole picture here?

00:10:06.000 You've got a lot of the world, Alex.

00:10:08.000 The United States, Western Europe, Greece, Portugal, Spain, the UK.

00:10:13.000 The debt that is out there is just ginormous.

00:10:18.000 And the ability to borrow money has delayed a lot of people pursuing jobs, let alone the 99 weeks of unemployment that people can now get under the Obama administration.

00:10:28.000 So, the issues right now are debt.

00:10:30.000 A tremendous amount of debt on the planet.

00:10:32.000 The lack of creation of jobs.

00:10:34.000 It's looking like that in this latest downturn since 2007, we lost about 8.5 million jobs.

00:10:43.000 This just came out from the Labor Department.

00:10:46.000 The unemployment rate dipped a little bit today in the numbers that came out today, but it's still looking kind of dour.

00:10:53.000 And a lot of those jobs, Alex, I don't think a lot of those jobs are ever going to come back.

00:10:57.000 They're in industries that were overbuilt, like the construction industry, like the distribution of credit industry and the mortgage industry.

00:11:06.000 I don't think those jobs are coming back for a long time, and I don't know what else those people can do.

00:11:10.000 It has been hitting the gold market a little bit.

00:11:12.000 However, the trend for gold is still up, even with this pullback.

00:11:16.000 I know it's hard to endure, but it is.

00:11:19.000 Should nations, we can talk about that and whether or not that becomes a liquidation point to raise assets as a store of value, and that could happen.

00:11:26.000 And really, it's the recovery of what?

00:11:28.000 So, really, it is about jobs.

00:11:31.000 It is about jobs in the world and productivity and making Europeans and European nations on the planet productive people.

00:11:40.000 All right, stay there, David Vickers.

00:11:43.000 Stay there, gotta break.

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00:16:15.000 Damon Vickers is our guest.

00:16:18.000 A very, very successful trends forecaster, researcher.

00:16:22.000 He heads up Nine Points Capital Partners.

00:16:25.000 Okay, this is a short segment.

00:16:26.000 Getting right back to you, Damon.

00:16:28.000 You are getting into...

00:16:30.000 Why the stock market's plunging, what's happening with gold, where you see this economy.

00:16:34.000 They're already talking about another stimulus.

00:16:37.000 The jobless numbers are exploding.

00:16:40.000 We have Pennsylvania on the verge of bankruptcy, California.

00:16:44.000 They're now talking about raiding pension funds, taking people's pensions and the government managing it.

00:16:50.000 I mean, this does not look pretty.

00:16:52.000 No, it doesn't.

00:16:53.000 But I mean, it comes back to productivity and the United States being a going concern.

00:16:59.000 You opened up the show at the beginning and it was talking about, well, the United States bankrupt.

00:17:04.000 Yeah, we're bankrupt.

00:17:05.000 The United States has been bankrupt for years.

00:17:08.000 You may draw some comfort, though, I suppose, that it's not just us, that it's also the United Kingdom, it's Greece, it's Portugal, it's Spain, it's a lot of Western Europe as well.

00:17:18.000 When we went off Uh, currency's actually representing anything and we fired up the printing presses.

00:17:27.000 We have just printed and printed and printed and printed more money and more money and more money.

00:17:33.000 And the planet as a whole has all bought into this game of he who has the most monopoly money wins.

00:17:41.000 And whether it's $10 million or $50 million or $100 million, we're all striving to accumulate more of these, quote, dollars or euros or whatever it is.

00:17:51.000 And they represent nothing.

00:17:53.000 So our values are off.

00:17:56.000 And, you know, our relationship to debt has been a very huge problem.

00:18:02.000 And it's enabled, like the Paxil, Depakot, and the Leave, the debt has also medicated us, not unlike the way those things have medicated us.

00:18:11.000 And given us the false sense of prosperity and the illusion that everything is okay when things are really not okay.

00:18:20.000 And so, you know, we talk about the bankruptcy of the United States as being a bad thing.

00:18:26.000 Maybe the ultimate bankruptcy of the United States is the best thing that could possibly happen.

00:18:31.000 And perhaps we should hasten its arrival and build from there.

00:18:37.000 But Damon, isn't the key to this, though, if we have a bankruptcy and the same systems are then continued after that, the big central banks and the players at the top are going to get even more control and power and continue using the central banks to give themselves insider knowledge and unlimited funding?

00:18:58.000 Well, their funding of what, Alex?

00:19:00.000 I mean, their controlling of what?

00:19:02.000 World currency.

00:19:03.000 They're playing the same game that everybody else is.

00:19:07.000 But haven't they already pre-positioned themselves with the fiat currency when it still had value to buy real assets?

00:19:14.000 What value do the real assets really have if you can't exchange it to anything?

00:19:21.000 What would be the real asset that you would think that they would own that would have so much value that gives them an advantage over you?

00:19:28.000 What?

00:19:29.000 Large defense contractors.

00:19:31.000 They take over the global monetary system and then they basically enslave us.

00:19:36.000 We're already there.

00:19:40.000 I don't know what their victory is.

00:19:42.000 And if they totally wreck us all financially... Well, they want the next bubble.

00:19:45.000 They want the carbon tax.

00:19:46.000 I mean, they've said, yes, we run you, yes, it's world government, yes, the bankers rule you, and you're now going to pay us carbon taxes.

00:19:54.000 But that's failing.

00:19:56.000 Yeah, that is common glue, too, as well.

00:19:59.000 Well, there's a lot of debt out there.

00:20:01.000 The job growth is the problem.

00:20:04.000 You and I were going back and forth on jobs, and it's hard to get a lot of the world productive.

00:20:14.000 It's hard to get people to be productive.

00:20:16.000 It seems often in most organizations that we need to put $5 of effort and of money into a person to even get a dollar of output.

00:20:28.000 And I would say that that's the case of a lot of workers, particularly in the United States.

00:20:34.000 So you're saying the planet, the industrialized world, is a bunch of TV-watching couch potatoes who just want everything for free.

00:20:44.000 And I agree, it's not just the corrupt elite that have facilitated this, it is the sloth-like zombies that have played right into their hands, and now the elite are going to use the sloth zombies to rob the middle class.

00:20:58.000 I don't know.

00:20:58.000 I don't know that there's much value there either, Alex.

00:21:01.000 Most of the middle class all leveraged themselves up to the eyeball.

00:21:05.000 They're pretty much wiped out.

00:21:07.000 The smarter people, the people that have always had money, they didn't go into much debt.

00:21:12.000 They didn't pay cash for things.

00:21:14.000 I don't have any debt!

00:21:16.000 Well, there you go.

00:21:18.000 All of us can't be as rich as you, Alex.

00:21:20.000 I'm not that rich.

00:21:22.000 I mean, I try to be a good steward to run my operation, but...

00:21:27.000 I mean, I just don't really go into debt, except for maybe a house.

00:21:30.000 Hey, you see, that's your personality.

00:21:33.000 Your personality, I mean, what I get from you, and the brief times that we've known one another, is that you're really about focusing soberly and clearly at issues.

00:21:42.000 Let's come back and talk about... As you're willing to look at them.

00:21:42.000 Well, stay there.

00:21:45.000 We'll be right back.

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00:24:55.000 Okay, Damon Vickers is our guest.

00:25:02.000 I'm Alex Jones, and he was getting into some points about what he thinks my mindset is or my focus when we had to go to break.

00:25:10.000 Finish up, Damon, and then I've got a bunch of questions for you and a whole bunch of Twitter questions that have come in as well.

00:25:16.000 Go ahead.

00:25:17.000 No, my comment about you, which I'm not going to make comments about you, I mean, but it seems that you are someone who looks at things very soberly, and you accept the good news, the bad news, the freckles, the wars, the whatever, but you don't delude yourself, which is uncommon.

00:25:35.000 And good to see you.

00:25:36.000 I'm glad you're on the radio.

00:25:39.000 Well, we've got you here, and we appreciate your valuable time away from your family to really discuss where this is going, because I see all these big central bankers saying, we're in danger of another collapse, a bigger collapse, currencies worldwide are going down overall, and the joblessness is increasing.

00:25:57.000 I mean, we keep talking about that, but how do you see this unfolding?

00:26:01.000 I mean, what preparations are you making in all of your billions in portfolios out there to protect your investors?

00:26:08.000 Well, one thing we've been doing is lightening up, and recently we've been lightening up and lessening our commitment to the market.

00:26:15.000 If we roll over and we start headed down, we're going to start shorting the market.

00:26:20.000 And we'll start shorting.

00:26:21.000 We've got a number of issues that look like they're setting up.

00:26:23.000 I'll be watching how they close today on the close on a Friday.

00:26:28.000 If they close weak on some of them, I may go out on the day short a number of issues.

00:26:34.000 However, the trend may still be up, so I'm not going to I'm not going to try to have too much of a bias one way or the other.

00:26:41.000 Yes, I do believe that the job creation is critical to our economic future and health and viability of the stock market, the economy, and I understand the relationship between job growth and innovation.

00:26:52.000 But most of the new jobs are government.

00:26:56.000 Most of the new jobs are government.

00:26:57.000 A lot of the new jobs.

00:26:58.000 That's right.

00:26:59.000 Consistently, there has been job growth in the government.

00:26:59.000 Job growth.

00:27:03.000 And that is the growing tumor that we see overtaking the whole economy of bureaucracy and control and all of those things.

00:27:11.000 So, if we do start rolling down, we will go short.

00:27:14.000 And yes, in 2008, a year that was pretty apocalyptic, we had a fund that went up 63 percent.

00:27:20.000 Our hedge funds did pretty good.

00:27:21.000 That was nice.

00:27:22.000 And in the last bear market, in 2000-2003, we also made a lot of money from those declines.

00:27:30.000 I don't really have this love for bull markets versus bear markets.

00:27:33.000 I really want what the market wants.

00:27:36.000 And actually, in bear markets, we make more money than bull markets, because the markets fall faster than they rise because of fear.

00:27:44.000 What it will inevitably mean is that we're the holder of all these assets.

00:27:47.000 We'll have to see.

00:27:48.000 The gold, people have been looking for a safe haven in gold.

00:27:51.000 It's an area that we've been involved in.

00:27:53.000 I think you really have to watch that roughly $1,000 level for gold.

00:27:57.000 I think it's very probable that we are going to hit it.

00:28:01.000 It doesn't matter whether we hit it.

00:28:02.000 The question is whether or not we really break through it and broach through it.

00:28:05.000 But it's not uncommon when you break out Which is what gold did when it broke through $1,000.

00:28:11.000 It ran up to $1225 an ounce, I think, intraday, to come back and tap or cap on the other side.

00:28:17.000 It happens almost all the time.

00:28:20.000 So, I think, really, probably for those investors that don't own gold already, that as we pull back on top of this $1,000, that that may be an area that you may want to seek to get involved, if you haven't already gotten involved.

00:28:35.000 And that would be a place where you kind of monitor your position.

00:28:38.000 But ultimately, if the you-know-what hits the fan, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to own some gold.

00:28:44.000 But you need to do it well and to own it well.

00:28:47.000 And also be prepared to let it go, too.

00:28:50.000 If you're proven wrong, you're going to have to pull the plug.

00:28:53.000 You don't want to be owning it as it breaks through $1,900, $800, $700, and you're losing money, but you still have your belief that you're losing money.

00:29:02.000 So you've got to be, I would say, to take a shot at it but also be willing to take it off.

00:29:10.000 Alright, shifting gears in a big way, I wouldn't call you a globalist, a New World Order person, but you do run in those circles, you are one of the people who will be honest on the air and admit it's a world government, a New World Order, but I see their swine flu hoax imploding as a hoax, admittedly a hoax now, the EU admits it's a hoax, we have the head of that commission on just a few days ago, Wolfgang Wodarg, we have their

00:29:38.000 Carbon tax hoax literally imploding on every front.

00:29:42.000 New scandals dwarfing climate gate on a daily basis.

00:29:46.000 We have the big central banks in trouble, caught giving themselves the bailout money.

00:29:51.000 That's falling apart.

00:29:52.000 We have the globalization and big government being ridiculed at every level.

00:29:58.000 So what do you see the elite doing?

00:30:01.000 Because you're right to say we're already in a banking dictatorship.

00:30:06.000 Our Congress has admitted, many congressmen and women, that the big banks run the country.

00:30:10.000 But as the real power structure is identified more and more, just historically and trending forward into the future, If you were one of the Rothschilds or the Rockefellers or one of these big controllers, what would you be doing or what are you hearing they're planning to do?

00:30:31.000 I don't know.

00:30:33.000 I don't hear that they're planning.

00:30:38.000 I don't hear plans.

00:30:39.000 You mentioned about the swine flu.

00:30:43.000 Last I heard, they wanted to do injections for a second time.

00:30:49.000 I don't know.

00:30:50.000 My sense is that the global population issue is a real problem.

00:30:58.000 And my sense is that we probably need some limits on that.

00:31:06.000 So that may be an area that there's some involvement in.

00:31:09.000 There you go.

00:31:10.000 See, I was going to do a friendly economic interview because you can bring us a lot to the table and I don't think you're a bad guy.

00:31:18.000 But you really, you bring up the big hot button issue yourself.

00:31:24.000 You're saying the globalists are involved in population reduction.

00:31:28.000 If I take what you say correctly, correct me if I'm wrong.

00:31:32.000 And that it is a problem for the economy.

00:31:36.000 I mean, we've aborted 50 million of our workforce in the last 35 years in the US, so we brought in 50 million foreigners. 0.99

00:31:46.000 We brought in the 50 million farmers at Barnard, Alex, because we were unwilling to do the work that they're so willing to do.

00:31:54.000 We don't want to actually work.

00:31:55.000 You see, the hard focusing and the willingness to soberly look at issues and see things squarely as they are, that's the work that you do.

00:32:04.000 That's the work that I do.

00:32:05.000 But for most Americans, They're too busy taking Paxil, Depakote, Viagra, Advil, and smoking pot all day, and medicating themselves with debt to look at what the real issues are.

00:32:18.000 And they only care about the Super Bowl!

00:32:19.000 And they go into Home Depot and they get the Mexicans, or they have Italian restaurants with Mexicans, because the Americans are too good to do any work. 1.00

00:32:27.000 We're too good for that.

00:32:28.000 We're too good to work hard, apparently.

00:32:30.000 Well, there is something to what you say, but I see a lot of really hard-working Americans who aren't the lazy Americans who are caught in the middle.

00:32:37.000 You're pandering to your audience, Alex.

00:32:39.000 No, I mean, I know a lot of people working two, three jobs.

00:32:44.000 Well, yeah, they're working two or three jobs because they've put together a lifestyle that's unsupportable with mortgage payments that are too high.

00:32:52.000 And now they're trying to support something that's unsupportable.

00:32:55.000 The United States system, as it is, is unsupportable.

00:32:59.000 And there is not enough debt in the world to keep this beast rolling.

00:33:04.000 As for the population issue, yes, the global population probably does need some regulation.

00:33:12.000 The truth is, we should be regulating it ourselves.

00:33:16.000 It is not right for people, for men, to, quote-unquote, procreate and produce 15 to 28 children like they do in Asia. 1.00

00:33:25.000 Yeah, but the average birth is about four children in the world.

00:33:27.000 But, Damon, again, I wanted to get you on.

00:33:30.000 We've got population issues.

00:33:32.000 We've got agriculture issues.

00:33:35.000 We've got health issues.

00:33:37.000 And somebody...

00:33:40.000 Central has to exert some degree of control for a world that is basically in chaos and on the verge of collapse because of our delusion.

00:33:40.000 Here we are.

00:33:52.000 Well, see, Damon, here we are, because we've had two rambunctious interviews with each other.

00:33:58.000 You know, the first interview, I wasn't too hard on you.

00:34:02.000 We just basically argued with each other the last interview.

00:34:05.000 And I've got you here because I really want to understand the establishment view.

00:34:09.000 And I think it's safe to say you're a member of the establishment.

00:34:11.000 I mean, how much money has your fund managed over the years?

00:34:15.000 Yeah, that's private information.

00:34:17.000 But it's a lot?

00:34:19.000 Probably a couple of dollars.

00:34:21.000 The point is, the point is, is that you do run in these circles, and every time I am around someone of your caliber, I don't have a disdain for the public.

00:34:21.000 Yeah.

00:34:32.000 It's at a cocktail party or at the statehouse or anywhere.

00:34:36.000 It's the same story. 0.99

00:34:38.000 They come over and they say, Alex, there are too many people, whether you like it or not, they're a bunch of lazy slobs. 0.93

00:34:43.000 There's a disdain for the public. 0.88

00:34:45.000 And I don't have a disdain for the public.

00:34:49.000 I have a disdain for the mindset of most people.

00:34:53.000 We need a rebirth, a renewal, an evolution, really.

00:35:00.000 Forget about a renewal.

00:35:00.000 We need it.

00:35:02.000 We need to evolve mentally.

00:35:04.000 The whole world needs to click into gear and begin to perceive things differently than they currently do.

00:35:11.000 Let me say this and then get your take.

00:35:14.000 Look, I have disdain for people who are in debt and who their kids are on drugs and can't read and write.

00:35:21.000 That's a lot of yuppies, not just poor people, who worship the Super Bowl and buy lottery tickets.

00:35:29.000 I know a lot of good people.

00:35:30.000 That's something to do, Alex.

00:35:32.000 Okay, good, good.

00:35:33.000 That's brave, going after the fourth spoke.

00:35:35.000 Good for you.

00:35:37.000 Okay, I'll go with that.

00:35:39.000 Disdain.

00:35:39.000 I think we should have compassion for them because they're enslaved.

00:35:44.000 But let me finish the statement.

00:35:46.000 But just because people are like children, the media, the culture has been geared for that, and I see the CPS, I see the government, I see the secret Homeland Security reports, where their main enemy is the hard-working rural and local business person and the producers.

00:36:03.000 And so, I do see red-blooded Middle America, who are keeping this country afloat, being fed on by the elites and by the slob general public. 1.00

00:36:15.000 Now, that's a different view, I think, than your overall view, though, because when I said, there are a lot of really hard-working, good people out there, you just said, oh, come on, you're pandering.

00:36:22.000 I mean, what are you getting at?

00:36:23.000 No, they're really- You hear- you hear- well, no, because that- when you start talking about America, you'll- I mean, I do a lot of interviews.

00:36:31.000 And what you'll- what you'll- when I start talking like that, then what the host will usually do is start defending his audience, which is the general public, and do that one.

00:36:40.000 Look, you've got- you do have people out there that are producers.

00:36:43.000 You do have people that are hardworking, okay?

00:36:45.000 I mean, I'm on vacation right now, but I'm doing this interview.

00:36:48.000 I mean, I'm looking at the ocean.

00:36:49.000 I could be out on the beach right now, but I'm still working.

00:36:51.000 I'm still working with you.

00:36:52.000 Sure.

00:36:53.000 Okay.

00:36:53.000 So there are people out there, not that it's me, but there are people out there that are hardworking.

00:36:58.000 Here's the problem.

00:36:59.000 The problem is that there's fewer and fewer of them.

00:37:03.000 And that you've got less and less, quote, producers.

00:37:06.000 You're a producer.

00:37:07.000 I'm a producer.

00:37:08.000 There are people that do run good businesses out there and do run good quality.

00:37:11.000 Look at Apple Computers.

00:37:12.000 I think they're doing a great job.

00:37:14.000 Innovative, good technology.

00:37:17.000 You're beating the pants off of Microsoft.

00:37:20.000 I mean, Microsoft is sub-basement compared to some of the stuff that Apple's doing.

00:37:23.000 I mean, obviously.

00:37:25.000 But there's fewer and fewer of them.

00:37:27.000 And at the same time, government is getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

00:37:32.000 And the government is exerting more and more control and wanting to take more and more from the producers, to a point that you're almost disincentivized to do any production whatsoever.

00:37:47.000 Exactly, and when I look at the ultra-elites and their policy reports and what they're doing, they're taking our normal bad traits and force-feeding them like a cancer.

00:37:59.000 They want us slovenly, they want us dependent, they want us weak.

00:38:04.000 And so that's my issue.

00:38:05.000 I mean, you're somebody with kind of an elitist, or what you call a reality-based perspective.

00:38:10.000 I kind of reject that, Alex.

00:38:10.000 I don't know.

00:38:12.000 I mean, I don't really get that.

00:38:14.000 I mean, if you're talking about any of these people, I think there's a desire, I think, to positively influence global change.

00:38:26.000 And when we saw pictures in recent weeks of Haiti, our initial response on the Haiti issue is, you know, oh my God, look at the poor, suffering Haiti people.

00:38:35.000 Haiti has been suffering for decades.

00:38:37.000 Their population has grown 50% in the last decade.

00:38:40.000 They're pushing 10 million.

00:38:42.000 They eat mud pies on the street.

00:38:45.000 Soon they'll be pushing 15 million and 20 million.

00:38:48.000 And if we push it far enough out, the Haitians are going to be eating each other! 1.00

00:38:53.000 And so it's not just Haiti.

00:38:55.000 Haiti could potentially be a lot of what the world looks like. 0.99

00:38:59.000 The United States does not feed itself.

00:39:02.000 We're net importers of food.

00:39:04.000 Like Haiti, the United States does not fuel itself.

00:39:08.000 We are net importers of fuel.

00:39:10.000 Well, Argentina is a good parallel to the U.S. OK.

00:39:13.000 OK.

00:39:14.000 Well, we need to be we need to be self-supporting and self-sustaining and have and have structures of.

00:39:23.000 But that's the issue.

00:39:25.000 When you read what the globalists say, they point out a lot of things you're pointing out, but then all their policies are to make us more dependent.

00:39:33.000 Well, I don't know.

00:39:35.000 I don't know where I see that.

00:39:36.000 I think most people probably would like to be dependent.

00:39:39.000 Most people are followers, they're not leaders.

00:39:42.000 Any way you shape it out, 80% of the people are going to do next to nothing.

00:39:46.000 20% of the people are going to do most of the production in any economy.

00:39:51.000 And most people don't think for themselves, and most people just generally are too lazy to think for themselves.

00:39:57.000 Well, bottom line, where do you see the world in 10 years?

00:40:00.000 I mean, it doesn't look good any way you slice it.

00:40:04.000 Well, the debt issue is a real problem.

00:40:08.000 The lack of productivity is a real problem.

00:40:10.000 Our focus is a real problem.

00:40:13.000 We need to put money in.

00:40:14.000 We need to overhaul the educational system.

00:40:17.000 I mean, radically.

00:40:18.000 Like, right away.

00:40:18.000 This is something Obama needs to be doing.

00:40:21.000 We need to slow down, reverse the growth of government.

00:40:25.000 Not only in the United States, but also in the Western nations.

00:40:28.000 Well, that's not happening.

00:40:30.000 Instead, they're going the opposite direction.

00:40:32.000 So, where are we going, then, with these guys piloting things?

00:40:38.000 Well, I mean, you're saying they're piloting things.

00:40:42.000 I think it's also the general population, really.

00:40:46.000 We're going to need probably some type of a collapse, I would say, to bring about global change.

00:40:52.000 Because people don't really think we need any evolution of people's minds.

00:40:56.000 We need people's minds to evolve and to change what their priorities are.

00:41:01.000 And so the right crisis will bring in the new world order, Damon?

00:41:10.000 Yes, I would say it all likelihood that a crisis probably would bring in a new world order.

00:41:14.000 I would hope that that new world order is a change for the good, because clearly what we have in place right now is not working.

00:41:22.000 None of it is working.

00:41:23.000 The systems are not working globally.

00:41:26.000 So, you may need the disintegration of the present system before you build a new one.

00:41:31.000 But this was a new world order.

00:41:32.000 Globalization has accelerated all the problems.

00:41:36.000 Well, you don't go, you don't go back.

00:41:38.000 I mean, we're not, I mean, we're not, globalization is not going to go back.

00:41:43.000 Maybe, inevitably, the place that we get to is that we really are one world.

00:41:48.000 That we, that nations do become more like states.

00:41:51.000 And we do have, and what we dissolve is the need to war with one another.

00:41:56.000 Why are the globalists overrunning Europe and North America with the third world populations? 1.00

00:42:05.000 I mean, they could clearly control that, but they're not.

00:42:07.000 They want to overrun, because then those populations will vote to rob and fully enslave the final producers. 0.99

00:42:16.000 Yeah, I don't know about that.

00:42:18.000 I mean, why is the third world running towards the western world? 0.98

00:42:23.000 They do it because of jobs.

00:42:25.000 You know, Mexico comes to the United States so that they can export money back to Mexico and to Colombia and whatever else.

00:42:33.000 The people migrate from the Chinese hinterland to Shanghai so that they can send money back to their agrarians. 1.00

00:42:40.000 But of the third world so absolutely horrible... I don't believe that's orchestrated by any conspiring world power.

00:42:48.000 Hell, the illegal aliens are above the law where I live. 1.00

00:42:51.000 They don't even have to have a driver's license.

00:42:53.000 They can drive.

00:42:55.000 I mean, the system gives them a red carpet.

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00:46:31.000 Well, I mean, there's no doubt the currencies are going down worldwide.

00:46:34.000 There's no doubt that we're going into a worldwide sustained depression.

00:46:40.000 There is no doubt that government is just pressing the accelerator of growth.

00:46:48.000 And so, again, I'll go back.

00:46:52.000 Yeah, well, it's not happening right now.

00:46:54.000 I mean, because what you're seeing is, you know, Portugal has had problems with Portugal.

00:46:57.000 Mike, or how do you see this whole currency situation shaking out?

00:47:01.000 Yeah, well, it's not happening right now.

00:47:03.000 I mean, because what you're seeing is, you know, Portugal, we've had problems with Portugal.

00:47:08.000 I think the last I heard was to insure $10 million of their debt, because they tried to sell some debt this last week.

00:47:16.000 The price to insure that $10 million was $219,000.

00:47:20.000 Just to insure the debt.

00:47:23.000 That's pretty rich.

00:47:25.000 So, what's happening is, because Western Europe, Portugal, Greece, Spain, UK, because these places are really coming in loose first, you're seeing a flight to quality.

00:47:38.000 If the U.S.

00:47:39.000 dollar is such a thing.

00:47:41.000 But you've got to imagine a ship is sinking, right?

00:47:44.000 And the rats will climb to higher decks on the ship. 0.65

00:47:46.000 And so it is with markets.

00:47:48.000 The currency thing is in fact unfolding on a global basis.

00:47:52.000 But we're getting this temporary lift in dollars because global investors and global holders of currencies don't know where quite to put their money.

00:48:02.000 So we've seen this lift in the U.S.

00:48:05.000 dollar.

00:48:05.000 So when does the ship go down?

00:48:08.000 When does the ship go down?

00:48:12.000 I'm not sure when it happens.

00:48:14.000 I can tell you that when it does happen, though, it'll happen pretty quick.

00:48:18.000 It'll happen like an overnight.

00:48:19.000 What is the crow's nest that will have hundreds of rats piled on it as it goes down into the North Atlantic?

00:48:26.000 What a great imagery, Alex.

00:48:28.000 The crow's nest.

00:48:29.000 What are you talking about?

00:48:30.000 What do you mean, crow's nest?

00:48:32.000 That's the area up on the main mast where the lookout, and it's the last part of the ship to go under.

00:48:38.000 So you've got rats.

00:48:40.000 Famous historians wrote about ships going under and rats going up and perching on the top of the mast as it goes under.

00:48:49.000 It's probably hard asset.

00:48:52.000 Inevitably.

00:48:53.000 So gold, real estate, things like that?

00:48:57.000 Real estate is inflated.

00:48:58.000 It wouldn't be real estate because real estate is inflated by all the excess dollars.

00:49:02.000 But at least it's something that's got something real is what I meant.

00:49:05.000 No, no, but unless it's farmland or something like that and really there won't be much demand for that.

00:49:12.000 No, real estate is going to be going down for years.

00:49:15.000 So what is it?

00:49:16.000 Gold?

00:49:16.000 I mean gold period?

00:49:17.000 What else?

00:49:17.000 What else is hard?

00:49:19.000 You know, I guess just commodities, but even if it really, really got bad, you'd have to temper the rise in gold with the fact that some people, some holders would be selling gold because they would have nothing else to sell.

00:49:35.000 Right?

00:49:35.000 If your currency's worth nothing.

00:49:37.000 So you have a depression in the real economy, so it doesn't matter if you're the crows nest because you're still going under?

00:49:44.000 In an all-out total global collapse, a deflationary collapse, there likely would be few places to hide.

00:49:54.000 We've had, for years and decades, they've said that what you needed to be was being stocks because stocks kept in with inflation.

00:50:02.000 We've had the currency go down, what, 97% over the last 30, 40 years, and yet the stock market has gone up.

00:50:08.000 So it's kind of a delusion, really, that people are facing.

00:50:12.000 Look, whatever the trends are, we're going to follow them.

00:50:15.000 Whether the trend for the market is up or the trend for the markets are down, we're going to seek to capitalize on them.

00:50:20.000 If the markets continue to roll over, we will increasingly get short, like we did in 2008.

00:50:26.000 But for the general public, you see even more storms ahead.

00:50:31.000 I think the underlying trends are pretty strong.

00:50:34.000 You've got to really be alert and keep looking at your... Hold on.

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00:52:18.000 We've been getting a very interesting perspective in the last 45 minutes from Damon Vickers, Nine Points Capital Partners Director.

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00:52:42.000 Damon, your grace is up to stay with us a few more minutes so you can finish your thought there.

00:52:47.000 You were talking about Other currencies going down, and that's what Dr. Paul Greg Roberts three months ago predicted, Bob Chapman, many others we've had on are saying the same thing that you've been talking about, that as other currencies go down, because they're even in more debt with big government than we are, that rats are going up to higher levels of the ship, and they're now on the deck, which is the United States, and so that's buoying the dollar for a time, but The government's only pressing the accelerator for more government, more spending, more bailouts.

00:53:17.000 So again, how do you see the ship going under?

00:53:20.000 Because they're clearly not going to right the ship.

00:53:24.000 I don't think so.

00:53:24.000 I mean, if we're assuming that government is going to have this, like, epiphany of understanding what it is that actually creates jobs and innovation and all that, that's not going to come from government.

00:53:36.000 You know, I'd like to see better tax policies in place.

00:53:39.000 That might really help us.

00:53:41.000 But really, we need to encourage innovation and technological leadership.

00:53:47.000 And I mean really push, really, really, really push for it.

00:53:52.000 That's our only way out.

00:53:53.000 We have to export things.

00:53:55.000 And I want to go back to the currency.

00:53:59.000 What happens in markets, in any market, and for anybody who remembers the decline in 2008 or the decline that we had in 2000, 2003, what happens is that fewer and fewer stocks are going up.

00:54:12.000 And what happens is that people pile into, quote, the quality issues.

00:54:16.000 And so what you get is you get this very narrow support in the market.

00:54:21.000 While most issues are going down, a couple are kind of maintaining their ground.

00:54:26.000 And then that makes more bubbles.

00:54:28.000 No, no, no.

00:54:28.000 It has nothing to do with bubbles.

00:54:29.000 Inevitably, in an all-out decline, inevitably in an all-out decline, everything goes down.

00:54:34.000 Got it.

00:54:35.000 So, the delusion that investors have right now of selling their Greek currency and the pounds and the euros and going into dollars is really short-sighted.

00:54:48.000 Inevitably, they'll be selling dollars, too, and the dollar will go down as well.

00:54:53.000 Well, I was thinking mainly of Commodities being bubbles because if they're the best thing out there, then finally when people have to dump them because that's the only value there is to pay for things, I mean that does pop a bubble.

00:55:09.000 Well, the commodities is an interesting one, because the global commodities, like all asset prices, have been driven up because of the excess supply of currency that's in the planet.

00:55:21.000 The printing of currency.

00:55:23.000 It's not just us that's had this all out of hand and in love with the printing press.

00:55:27.000 It's all of these countries that we're talking about.

00:55:30.000 It's the Greeks, it's Portugal. 0.99

00:55:31.000 What do you think the export is of Greeks?

00:55:34.000 What is it?

00:55:35.000 Was it olive oil?

00:55:36.000 What are they?

00:55:37.000 I was about to say olives.

00:55:39.000 You're right, olives.

00:55:40.000 You know, it's... You know, what are they?

00:55:43.000 Spain.

00:55:44.000 So we have this G20 coordinated printing press, like an arms race, but of money, and so we got one minute left.

00:55:53.000 What does it lead to?

00:55:55.000 Inevitably, I think, when it all... inevitably, people lose faith in currencies in their entirety.

00:56:03.000 And you get some type of probably new monetary form of exchange.

00:56:08.000 Yes, because it's electronic.

00:56:10.000 Because we're in the digital age, it's electronic.

00:56:13.000 And it's more something like that.

00:56:17.000 A global government?

00:56:19.000 A global government.

00:56:20.000 A new global system of debit and credit that are all managed electronically on a global basis.

00:56:26.000 But they plan that to be carbon-based, but that's failing.

00:56:30.000 Well, we'll see if they're able to bring that back to life.

00:56:33.000 All the best, Alex.

00:56:33.000 Great being with you.

00:56:34.000 Damon, thank you for being with us.

00:56:36.000 Take care.

00:56:37.000 All right, Bob Chapman straight ahead, ladies and gentlemen, giving you Damon Vickers' perspective.

00:56:42.000 Kind of a globalist perspective, but we need to hear from all the different views out there.

00:56:47.000 Bob Chapman straight ahead.

00:56:49.000 We'll see what he has to say about what's going on with the plunging stock market, dollar rising, gold going down some, massive debt increases.

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01:03:45.000 Okay, I want to get into the economy first because for two years they've been telling us that the economy is getting better.

01:03:52.000 They were telling us that really four years ago.

01:03:54.000 And so I want Bob Chapman, who's really the leading expert we have on of so many economists, brokers, researchers, trends forecasters, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts three months ago, two and a half months ago, said that when the carry trade reversed to the U.S., that other currencies were imploding so bad that for a while the dollar would go back up and gold would probably go down, but then race up later.

01:04:16.000 And we saw it go down, race back up, now go down somewhat, but as Damon Vickers said earlier, all that's left at the end of the day is gold and silver, and he doesn't sell gold and silver, he's telling you that though.

01:04:31.000 Because that's all that has any real value.

01:04:34.000 And so you have a depression in the real economy, while the banks fill themselves and their fat bellies full of trillions of dollars.

01:04:41.000 You have government worldwide ballooning in size, because it's the mechanism for taking the public's wealth and giving it to the elite, and giving some chicken feed to the unwashed masses to control them.

01:04:52.000 And so much is going on.

01:04:53.000 Stock market plunging while the dollar goes up.

01:04:57.000 You've got Pennsylvania and other states, California saying they're going into bankruptcy.

01:05:03.000 You've got states and cities passing taxes on food, baby food, milk.

01:05:08.000 I mean, talk about draconian.

01:05:10.000 They're going to squeeze and squeeze.

01:05:11.000 Is there a method to this madness and where is it all going?

01:05:15.000 Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com.

01:05:17.000 Thanks for joining us.

01:05:19.000 Well, thank you and it's very nice to be back and I only wish that we had yourself and Jesse and others like you in the early 1960s.

01:05:31.000 It wouldn't have been such a hard 50 years.

01:05:36.000 But with that said, we've crossed a great river here and that is we're really delivering the message and we're really getting out there and we're really driving the Illumina's crazy.

01:05:50.000 And they're on the run as we've discussed before.

01:05:54.000 As far as the economy's concerned, sources told me this morning that they expect that the administration's going to look for $150 billion as another stimulus program.

01:06:07.000 Nothing like the almost $800 billion that they had before.

01:06:10.000 But you've got to remember they're going to, out of the budget, Double the amount of money that is spent on education.

01:06:16.000 They're going to, in some way, create jobs by using credits and tax things.

01:06:24.000 And just to interrupt, Bob, you said in October of 2008 there would be a second stimulus in 2010 when they were swearing there wouldn't be.

01:06:32.000 How did you know that?

01:06:35.000 I knew that because they really should have not done $800 billion They really needed about $1.5 trillion, and as it's happened, they didn't have enough and they need more, and what they did get, obliquely, was a hand through the quantitative easing program, the $23.7 trillion.

01:06:59.000 $23.7 trillion.

01:07:01.000 But even that hasn't been enough.

01:07:06.000 And so they're going to spend $100 billion, quote, creating jobs.

01:07:12.000 Of course, it'll be short term and won't work.

01:07:15.000 And they're going to give states loans of $25 billion to keep them from going bankrupt.

01:07:22.000 And so if you add it all up, it comes close to $500 billion.

01:07:25.000 And that's what I figured they might be able to get away with.

01:07:28.000 And that's what they've got.

01:07:29.000 And that will carry them probably into the election.

01:07:32.000 And that's it.

01:07:34.000 And then everything will sputter and go down again.

01:07:35.000 You saw the GDP figures, and it was 5.7% growth in the final quarter of last year.

01:07:44.000 And of that, 60% or more was replacing inventory.

01:07:49.000 So the real growth was 2.4% officially.

01:07:53.000 It was probably a little bit less than that.

01:07:55.000 My guess was 1.5% to 2.5%.

01:07:56.000 But I'm not going to argue.

01:07:57.000 It was all created.

01:08:02.000 By infusion of capital of one kind of another.

01:08:06.000 And by the election you mean the 2010 Congressional election coming up?

01:08:11.000 You see them trying to stall the collapse until then?

01:08:15.000 You see things getting a lot worse next year?

01:08:18.000 Yes.

01:08:19.000 And unless they come along with another... Oh, I think the next time they'll need a trillion to a trillion and a half if they're going to do that.

01:08:27.000 You know, the Fed talks about withdrawing money from the system.

01:08:30.000 They can't do that.

01:08:31.000 It'll collapse.

01:08:32.000 They've taken money and credit, the old M3, down from 17.4% to approximately 3%.

01:08:40.000 And, you know, the European Central Bank has brought theirs down from 12.8% to minus 0.08%.

01:08:47.000 Why is the Bank of England slowing printing?

01:08:52.000 For the same reason the others are.

01:08:54.000 It's all coordinated.

01:08:55.000 They're down to 3%.

01:08:56.000 And they had a high of 14.5%.

01:09:02.000 And what they're up to exactly, I can't figure out, because they're skating along the edge of deflationary depression by taking down M3 and M4.

01:09:15.000 The Europeans call it M4.

01:09:18.000 And so they cannot take any money out of the system unless they want it to collapse.

01:09:24.000 Put this in layman terms, because I study this constantly and I'm with you, but barely, so a lot of the audience may not.

01:09:33.000 In layman's terms, they give themselves $28 trillion conservatively in the U.S.

01:09:38.000 alone, another $20 trillion globally.

01:09:40.000 They're buying up all the real assets.

01:09:42.000 They're not letting local banks loan.

01:09:44.000 They clearly want to implode the economy so they can consolidate, while they're claiming they're trying to hire jobs, they're just massing the government against us, growing their muscle against their slaves, and if they... and then now central banks are starting to cut money supply, and are starting to cut the issuance of currency, which does forestall things, so it looks like they want things to implode, or just stall it just long enough, or what?

01:10:15.000 It's hard to tell, because we won't know until we get out further.

01:10:20.000 And that won't happen until later in the year.

01:10:22.000 And you see the fiasco that's going on in the European countries, both in Eastern Europe, as well as Greece, and now they're talking about Portugal and Spain and Ireland, which I talked about for some time, being problematic, and now they are.

01:10:38.000 But, you know, people have to consider, the dollar's no panacea, because Their debt, public debt to GDP, will be about 95% this year.

01:10:49.000 Well, that's as bad as any country in the world.

01:10:52.000 I mean, there's only a couple of countries that are higher.

01:10:55.000 And so, the United States has got the same problems that everybody else has, or vice versa.

01:11:01.000 So you see this debt implosion problem that's going on in Europe.

01:11:05.000 Nothing new.

01:11:06.000 They just discovered it.

01:11:08.000 It happened.

01:11:09.000 And we know the G20 is coordinating this.

01:11:11.000 Why?

01:11:13.000 The reason why they want to do that is that they want to act in unison so they can help one another when they need to do what they are going to do.

01:11:24.000 See, I don't know, and I don't know anybody who does know outside the inner circle, when they're going to pull the plug and go to a deflationary depression.

01:11:35.000 And they're eventually going to do that, but they want to do it in their own way at their own time.

01:11:42.000 And they probably want to coordinate a war as a political smokescreen when they pull the trigger.

01:11:47.000 Absolutely, and there's a good chance of that in the Middle East this year. 1.00

01:11:50.000 Alright, stay there.

01:11:52.000 It's all coming together.

01:11:53.000 Let's break down the geopolitical landscape with Bob Chapman straight ahead.

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01:13:07.000 This reinstalled confidence after the demise of the fiat continental system, wisdom being lost with time.

01:13:13.000 The government we once entrusted to protect from counterfeit has colluded with private business, creating the largest fiat counterfeiting scheme our country ever experienced.

01:13:23.000 This is not only a transfer of power to an institution that is not accountable to our elected government, but has also caused the dollar to lose more than 90 cents of its original value.

01:13:32.000 Now foreign governments are trying to divest themselves from this once world reserve currency.

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01:13:58.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.

01:14:02.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

01:14:05.000 As we're finishing off this agenda, We're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home. 0.71

01:14:10.000 I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

01:14:17.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.

01:14:22.000 For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.

01:14:32.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!

01:14:34.000 They're asking for more matches!

01:14:36.000 And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?

01:14:38.000 Today, it seems like nobody does care.

01:14:40.000 And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.

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01:16:22.000 Central, 12 noon Eastern.

01:16:25.000 12 noon Eastern to 4 p.m.

01:16:28.000 Eastern.

01:16:28.000 We'll be back this Sunday with a surprise guest in the last hour, 4 to 6 p.m.

01:16:33.000 with the abbreviated Sunday transmission.

01:16:35.000 Bob Chapman is our guest.

01:16:37.000 You know, Bob, we can sit here and talk about it and talk about it and talk about it and talk about it.

01:16:45.000 They're moving more ships, more weapons in, new sanctions on Iran.

01:16:49.000 It's a total replay of 1991, 2003 with Iraq.

01:16:56.000 They're openly saying they're getting ready for the bombardment the next year.

01:17:00.000 They're moving more forces in.

01:17:01.000 They've set up their Council of Governors so Obama can say, oh, I took over the states.

01:17:07.000 But, you know, don't worry, I have these puppet governors, and the head of the Homeland Security Board, sub-board of this, is the Governor Nixon, who put out the MIAC report for the feds, demonizing conservatives, gun owners, patriots, libertarians, returning veterans.

01:17:24.000 And they're now openly talking about shutting down freedom on the web.

01:17:28.000 It's happening in Europe, happening in Italy, happening in Australia.

01:17:34.000 Clearly staged the underwear bombing.

01:17:36.000 It's now come out the FBI basically orchestrated all of that and protected the guy and let him get on the plane, the State Department.

01:17:43.000 I mean, we know what they're doing and we're in a race to get the public to not just care about the Super Bowl, but actually care about what the globalists are doing.

01:17:53.000 I mean, looking at the method of their madness, They've orchestrated this whole plan, but now their plan, their cornerstone of the new carbon tax bubble, is in deep trouble.

01:18:07.000 So what does that do to them?

01:18:09.000 Because they're still going ahead with the plan, though on every front, they're on fire.

01:18:13.000 I mean, they're falling apart.

01:18:17.000 You're right.

01:18:18.000 They are running into problems that they didn't expect, and I think that You talk about taxation, the carbon tax, that isn't going to happen anytime soon, although our president said he's going to end-run the situation, run through the EPA, as you pointed out before.

01:18:43.000 But I think the trial balloon for the comments, which are open next week, and the new, which the public hasn't even heard about yet, the new guaranteed annuity that The administration and the people who control it have planned.

01:19:01.000 We don't know what form it's going to come in, but it's going to be a tax raiser, and it's going to be, in some way, something that the government can either use as collateral or get fresh funds in to fund their debt.

01:19:17.000 They have a heck of a time funding it.

01:19:20.000 Last year, the Fed, just in the Treasuries alone, purchased 80% of them.

01:19:26.000 And they're not going to tell you that, but if you back into it, you can see that.

01:19:29.000 A few writers have come out with it, but most of them, they don't know, they don't understand.

01:19:35.000 So what this is, this plan for this annuity, it may come in any form.

01:19:40.000 We don't know yet what it is, but they're talking about a 5% tax, like the Social Security tax, and that money would be earmarked for an account for you as an annuity for the future.

01:19:52.000 And then, They also talked about a voluntary plan whereby somebody could pledge a certain percentage of their retirement, whether it's pension, a 401k or IRA, etc.

01:20:05.000 into this government annuity or the whole thing, or they could have a mandatory program.

01:20:12.000 I'm putting all this out because, number one, eventually they're going to try to steal your retirement, and number two, they're desperate for funds, and you ask where they're going to get the taxes from or get the money from tax-wise, and this, I think, is how they think they're going to do it.

01:20:26.000 Bob, incredible.

01:20:28.000 I mean, that's why we have you on so often, because sometimes I can't see the forest for the trees.

01:20:33.000 I'm sitting here saying if their environmental takeover is in trouble, what are they going to do to fund their operation?

01:20:40.000 And in plain view, you've been saying for five years, and I have as well, when Bush changed the rules to take pensions, and now they've changed the rules to take money markets, and now they're saying they're going to take your pension and put it in a government fund and tax it.

01:20:54.000 That clearly they're now moving to do that, and it's just so outrageous that even though I know they're already starting to do it, I can't believe they're that bold.

01:21:04.000 I mean, if they're asking for a revolution, isn't that the quickest way to get it is to steal people's retirement?

01:21:10.000 You got it.

01:21:12.000 You're absolutely correct.

01:21:13.000 And desperate people do desperate things.

01:21:16.000 And again, we have forced them into this position.

01:21:19.000 And that's why they're pushing ahead on all fronts, such as the things with Homeland Security, the federalization of law enforcement, and all the other things that you talk about on the program.

01:21:32.000 Yeah, they're running scared.

01:21:32.000 Stay there, Bob.

01:21:34.000 I want you to come back and flesh out, because, I mean, this is mainstream now that they're taking the pension funds.

01:21:39.000 Private companies are.

01:21:40.000 The government's getting ready to snatch it.

01:21:42.000 The health care plan's in trouble.

01:21:44.000 That was a new big tax.

01:21:46.000 Stay there.

01:21:47.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

01:21:51.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:21:57.000 Hello, this is Alex Jones with some important questions.

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01:24:55.000 Bob Chapman's our guest.

01:25:09.000 I'm going to open the phones up specifically for questions for Bob Chapman.

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01:25:14.000 Bob, you got cut off by that break.

01:25:21.000 I mean, when we got up here five years ago, four years ago, two years ago, last month, and read the mainstream articles where the government comes out and says, oh, we'll take your private pension plans and the government We'll keep them and tax them but pay them out to you and owe your...

01:25:41.000 Money markets aren't protected.

01:25:44.000 You know, 3% or something.

01:25:46.000 Returns people get.

01:25:47.000 I mean, I've got a bank account that's a money market.

01:25:50.000 That's not protected.

01:25:51.000 I mean, that's destroying confidence.

01:25:54.000 And then their health care plan is a massive tax increase on basically everybody except some of the poorest Americans.

01:26:01.000 And then it's a tax on them because more companies will just lay people off to be able to pay for the health care. 0.61

01:26:08.000 And so they're failing on that plan because it's so unconstitutional and transparently corrupt.

01:26:13.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:26:14.000 The carbon taxes, they're in trouble.

01:26:15.000 The healthcare money grab, they're in trouble.

01:26:19.000 So what are they going to do, Bob?

01:26:21.000 That's hard to say.

01:26:25.000 I don't know.

01:26:26.000 I just don't see anything on the horizon.

01:26:30.000 But, you know, we'll hear it leaking out of Washington.

01:26:32.000 You know, they have these tanks going.

01:26:35.000 And they've been going for years.

01:26:36.000 And, incidentally, that program of guaranteed annuities by the United States government, that's been in formation since 1995.

01:26:48.000 This is really nothing new.

01:26:51.000 It's just getting here now, or they pulled it up when they thought they needed it desperately, if you may.

01:26:59.000 And if they impose a 5% tax for savings, then that probably will help them quite a bit.

01:27:08.000 But I don't think the public's going to like it much.

01:27:13.000 When I tell listeners that the government is creating a police state electronic straitjacket over the states, we're not just saying that.

01:27:21.000 We have the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, reauthorized since 2007.

01:27:26.000 We have PDD 51.

01:27:28.000 We have the Council of Governors.

01:27:30.000 Which is so the President can claim he's in control of the states and, well, the Council of Governors agrees his ten hand-picked minions.

01:27:37.000 You could have 49 states telling one state they had to do something unconstitutional.

01:27:42.000 It doesn't stand.

01:27:44.000 You have NORTHCOM admittedly set up for the American people.

01:27:47.000 You have them trying to put military on the streets everywhere.

01:27:50.000 You have them with the naked body scanners.

01:27:52.000 They're clearly trying to get this grid in place to suppress peaceful revolution.

01:28:00.000 against them, but they're not giving people anywhere to go.

01:28:03.000 They're not giving people any out.

01:28:05.000 I mean, this is going to be very explosive.

01:28:08.000 This is not Argentina where they're disarmed or Nigeria where they're disarmed or Romania or something.

01:28:15.000 I mean, this is a recipe for disaster.

01:28:17.000 And the establishment is so hubris filled, they're still moving forward.

01:28:21.000 Or maybe they're not hubris filled.

01:28:23.000 Maybe that's why Cass Sunstein and other White House stars write that, quote, the conspiracy theorists are a danger and are hurting them.

01:28:31.000 Bob Chapman.

01:28:32.000 Well, that's right.

01:28:33.000 And I think you hit it on the head.

01:28:36.000 And I'm doing a piece right now that I'll finish over the weekend for next Wednesday's issue.

01:28:43.000 And it's control of the Internet.

01:28:45.000 And, of course, if they go for that through the U.N.

01:28:49.000 or whatever, way they do that, then what will happen is they'll pursue us on radio as well.

01:28:59.000 And they've got to shut us up.

01:29:01.000 And so there's going to be moves in that direction.

01:29:04.000 But you know something?

01:29:05.000 I think they're a little bit too late.

01:29:07.000 I think they waited too long or they get rushed into the situation by yourself and others Well, the train's already left the station.

01:29:16.000 Exactly.

01:29:17.000 We've already told the people, the DVDs, the books, the newsletters are out there.

01:29:21.000 And the more they try to censor us, the more people want to find out what's going on.

01:29:26.000 That's right.

01:29:28.000 You know, it's just like when you try to hide something, there's a reason for it.

01:29:33.000 You probably did something wrong.

01:29:35.000 And the Federal Reserve is a wonderful example.

01:29:39.000 It's a state secret, or you don't have a need to know, and it's a private corporation. 0.94

01:29:44.000 I mean, that's ridiculous.

01:29:46.000 And so, why is the Fed Reserve doing that?

01:29:48.000 Why are they battling so hard to keep 1207, which is in that appropriations bill, from getting passed?

01:29:56.000 Because they don't want everybody to know what they're doing.

01:29:58.000 Well, the same is true, not only with the Fed, but right through our government, and Wall Street.

01:30:04.000 I mean, you saw the hearings.

01:30:08.000 This Lloyd Blankfein gets up and says, well, we're doing God's work, and we made a few mistakes.

01:30:14.000 Yeah, as they collected hundreds of billions of dollars from the American investor or the American citizen, and they justify that, well, if you don't let us do it, we'll crash the system.

01:30:28.000 That's really what they're saying.

01:30:30.000 And I work with these people for 28 years.

01:30:32.000 I know where they're coming from.

01:30:34.000 And this is terrorism.

01:30:35.000 This is illegal financial terrorism that they have been engaging in and they have wrecked hundreds of third world countries and first world nations in the last hundred years.

01:30:45.000 They will make us destitute and homeless if they are able to successfully pull this off.

01:30:52.000 This is life and death for our economy.

01:30:54.000 Our society, our future progeny, this is for all the marbles. 0.99

01:31:00.000 And that's why I get so disgusted by adults who are losing their jobs or getting their pay cut.

01:31:06.000 Wealthy, poor people, it doesn't matter. 0.64

01:31:09.000 They don't still, many of them, seem to care.

01:31:11.000 They only care about who's going to win the Super Bowl this Sunday.

01:31:15.000 That's exactly right, and they ruined many, many personal lives all over the world, particularly with these collateralized debt obligations, which are the bonds which have the mortgages inside of them.

01:31:30.000 60% of them were sold in Europe, so it's not only American institutions that bought them and lost piles of money, but it was Europeans as well, and others.

01:31:40.000 But, you know, this, to me, as a professional within that area, is grotesque.

01:31:50.000 I mean, how could they ever think that they could get away with this?

01:31:55.000 What they did is they got the Raiders, which is Moody's and Fitch and S&P, to say that this was AAA paper, the best you can buy, when in fact it was a BBB.

01:32:08.000 And the inclusion With not only the Raiders, but also the Federal Reserve and the lenders themselves.

01:32:18.000 And it was a whole group of people who were involved in this giant trillion, multi-trillion dollar scam.

01:32:29.000 You're absolutely right, Alex.

01:32:31.000 And now it's come out in McClatchy newspapers and other places, documents they got from Goldman, that they premeditatedly rigged all this to destroy their competition and destroy the economy and come out on top with their insider knowledge.

01:32:47.000 And now they're trying to bring us into the next phase.

01:32:49.000 I want to go to Kohl's here, Bob, but What is going to happen from your past experience and research as people find out the economy is actually getting worse and not better?

01:33:03.000 Well, we're going to get more disturbed.

01:33:04.000 There'll be more layoffs.

01:33:06.000 There'll be more people going bankrupt.

01:33:09.000 It'll be harder to live.

01:33:11.000 The way that we've lived over the past, we'll say, 50 years is gone, probably gone forever.

01:33:19.000 That's hard to say forever, but probably gone forever.

01:33:22.000 And they are going to demonstrate, and eventually the demonstrations will, if they can't accomplish what they want through Congress, then there will probably be a revolution.

01:33:38.000 Let's go to phone calls, ladies and gentlemen.

01:33:40.000 Let's talk to John in Illinois.

01:33:42.000 You're on the air with Bob Chapman.

01:33:43.000 Hello, I just want to say I appreciate your show, Mr. Jones, and a question I have for Mr. Chapman is, how do you feel that George Soros' statement about gold being in a bubble affected the market currently?

01:33:57.000 And also, with all the manipulations that the banks do, Do you think they can control the price of gold for much longer?

01:34:04.000 Let me add this before Bob answers.

01:34:07.000 Last Friday here, I played the clip for Bob of Soros on Wednesday of last, bragging that they were about to try to pop the gold bubble.

01:34:17.000 So, was Soros involved?

01:34:20.000 What are the central banks doing?

01:34:21.000 We know it's been exposed.

01:34:22.000 They do manipulate gold.

01:34:23.000 Why are they trying to drive gold down right now?

01:34:26.000 Well, first of all, George Soros is an arch-criminal.

01:34:30.000 He's a multi-billionaire. 0.66

01:34:31.000 He's a top-aluminist.

01:34:33.000 He was convicted of rigging the stock market in France.

01:34:36.000 He appealed and lost.

01:34:38.000 And he was convicted in Hungary, as well, in recent years.

01:34:42.000 He's a front man.

01:34:44.000 For the Illuminists, whatever they want done, he does it. 0.99

01:34:48.000 In Eastern Europe, they have these colored revolutions.

01:34:51.000 He was behind the whole thing.

01:34:52.000 And, of course, when these guys die, all the money goes back to the Illuminists. 0.96

01:34:57.000 That's the way it works.

01:34:58.000 And by the way, you're not just saying that.

01:34:59.000 I want you to continue your point.

01:35:01.000 It came out in the British news and Russian news that every time Putin arrests an oligarch, it turns out they own literally nothing and everything is Lord Rothschild's.

01:35:10.000 That's right.

01:35:11.000 And Rossile Bank bankrolled the whole thing.

01:35:13.000 So what are they doing with the gold?

01:35:17.000 Pardon me?

01:35:17.000 I mean, I'm interrupting you from the question, the caller's question.

01:35:21.000 What's going on with the rigging?

01:35:25.000 And in what sector?

01:35:27.000 Well, I mean, Soros... What do you mean with the gold?

01:35:31.000 What he was a stocking horse in this...

01:35:35.000 in the charade he kicked the downside off and then the central banks would use derivatives through the major broker terms such as Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, etc.

01:35:46.000 and they shorted gold they were already short big time triple what is normal in the COMEX and the LBMA which is the London equivalent is even worse I mean, I think they're short 50 tons of gold and they don't have any.

01:36:03.000 When does, I mean, for those that don't understand shorting, when are the contracts or the main group of contracts up?

01:36:08.000 Because now they've got to short it because they already betted in shorting or they'd lose their shirt.

01:36:14.000 And shorting is betting it's going to go down.

01:36:14.000 That's right.

01:36:18.000 And so they've been doing that, but ultimately they have to cover, which means buy it back in again.

01:36:23.000 And I don't know at what level they're going to do that.

01:36:26.000 My guess is probably somewhere between $1,033 and perhaps $1,070.

01:36:32.000 There's a number of reasons that I won't go into.

01:36:36.000 But he front-ran this attack on gold, and it's the second attack in like two months.

01:36:46.000 The second part of the question was, can they continue to do it?

01:36:49.000 And the answer is no.

01:36:50.000 And the reason why is they don't have the physical bullion to sell into the market.

01:36:56.000 And that's where they're stopped cold.

01:36:59.000 And so when they use derivatives futures to go in and drive prices down, They only can do it for a short period of time.

01:37:10.000 Several days at the most, and that's it.

01:37:12.000 And to answer the question, why do they want to drive gold down, am I right in saying because it will expose the weakness of the dollar?

01:37:21.000 It'll expose the weakness of the dollar and the whole system.

01:37:25.000 Whenever gold goes up, it's like the canary in the coal mine.

01:37:29.000 It's the tip-off that something is dramatically wrong in some society, and gold's going up because the society's on the brink, economically, financially, whatever, and that is what's happening.

01:37:43.000 And so they've been suppressing gold.

01:37:44.000 They started in 1988.

01:37:45.000 I wrote my first article for the Bull and Bear saying the market is being manipulated, and I explained how they were doing it, and everybody told me I was insane.

01:37:56.000 Well, of course, they don't do that anymore.

01:37:59.000 Because it is common knowledge now, especially on Wall Street, that all markets, but particularly the gold market, is being manipulated.

01:38:07.000 John, does that answer your questions?

01:38:11.000 I was just curious to, you know, I know it's impossible to tell, but, you know, because what about silver also?

01:38:19.000 Do you expect a price, because they're short that market also?

01:38:26.000 Well, you're right, and there's two big players that are short about 60% of the contracts.

01:38:33.000 J.P.

01:38:34.000 Morgan, Chase, and HSBC, Hong Kong-Shanghai Bank.

01:38:40.000 And it's illegal!

01:38:41.000 And the CFTC stands there and has allowed it to go on ever since Bill Stearns went under.

01:38:48.000 So what you're saying they are going to drop, but you're expecting them to drop in silver?

01:38:54.000 No, it's already happened.

01:38:55.000 Yeah, but continuing, or?

01:38:57.000 No, no.

01:38:58.000 It'll base out here somewhere in the $15 to $16 area, and gold should base out here as well.

01:39:06.000 When will gold start running back up?

01:39:08.000 When do you see gold running back up?

01:39:12.000 Oh, I think it can happen before June, maybe even before April.

01:39:16.000 Okay.

01:39:16.000 They don't have any lasting power.

01:39:21.000 I mean, they've lost their bullion positions.

01:39:23.000 They've sold them off over the last 20 years.

01:39:26.000 They're swimming upstream against the market.

01:39:27.000 Thank you, John.

01:39:28.000 Michael in California, you're on the air with Bob Chapman.

01:39:31.000 Hey, thank you guys.

01:39:32.000 It's just so timely you're having this conversation, and now it's your illustration about the rats going up the mast of the crow's nest.

01:39:39.000 It just really kind of sets there.

01:39:44.000 I wanted to know if either one of you are familiar with Thomas Horne's latest book, Apollyon Rising, the prophetic cipher hidden from the world by the U.S.

01:39:54.000 government for over 200 years?

01:39:57.000 No, I'm not.

01:39:59.000 No, I'm not.

01:40:02.000 I would recommend it.

01:40:03.000 It's a great overview of why the seal is on the dollar bill and the forces that you guys are talking about that want to see their world order manifest.

01:40:14.000 Well, we carry three videos, America's Secret Beginnings, that chronicle that, so I am aware of it.

01:40:20.000 Anything else, Michael?

01:40:23.000 Well, I'm just wondering also on the provisions front, I know Bob's talked really strongly about being out of the U.S.

01:40:31.000 dollar as well as having food supplies.

01:40:34.000 Both of you talk about that way to protect your family.

01:40:38.000 It's amazing how many people around me, as I try to have conversations with people, really just shy away from it as if it's extreme.

01:40:48.000 Well, let me comment on that, Michael, as we're going into break.

01:40:50.000 They have made it fashionable.

01:40:52.000 They've been telling people for a hundred years.

01:40:54.000 Don't talk about politics and religion when talking about politics and religion is what created this country.

01:41:01.000 And they tell you it's weird to be protected, it's weird to own guns, it's weird to be self-sufficient, it's weird to know how to fish, it's weird to know how to skin a deer.

01:41:11.000 As a human being, I'm high-tech, I'm modern, but I also am primitive.

01:41:17.000 I keep those aspects about myself.

01:41:20.000 I know a little bit about nature and how to be self-sufficient.

01:41:24.000 I'm not a domesticated, complete jellyfish.

01:41:27.000 And so what you've got is domesticated, soft-palmed jellyfish.

01:41:32.000 Look at Katrina. 1.00

01:41:35.000 Look at California collapsing and making the state workers work one day a week for free.

01:41:39.000 Look at Haiti.

01:41:41.000 The government can't and won't and will not take care of you.

01:41:44.000 And in all these intensifying crises, the fact that people don't even have the basic instinct to want to prepare, like a grasshopper doesn't prepare for the winter, the ant does.

01:41:55.000 A squirrel prepares for the winter.

01:41:56.000 I've got the smarts of a squirrel.

01:41:58.000 Your average football watcher doesn't.

01:42:00.000 Bob Chapman.

01:42:02.000 I agree.

01:42:02.000 And you know, it's all there.

01:42:04.000 All they have to do is start using it.

01:42:07.000 And how can that come about?

01:42:10.000 All they have to do is listen.

01:42:12.000 And your program is one of those ways.

01:42:15.000 Or my publication for that matter.

01:42:17.000 And you know, there's a lot of things that just have to be exposed to people and say, oh yeah, I was wondering about that.

01:42:24.000 And all of a sudden, it clicks in.

01:42:27.000 I get so many emails and talk to so many people that say, I woke up six months ago, or a year, or two years ago.

01:42:34.000 And I think that's terrific.

01:42:35.000 And it's because of The Interdebt, and my publication, and your program, and other programs, and so on.

01:42:42.000 And we are getting there.

01:42:44.000 The thing is, can we get there fast enough?

01:42:47.000 Folks, now is the time of maximum effort.

01:42:51.000 Now is the time when the globalists are moving against us and the public is finally ready to be enlightened.

01:42:56.000 We'll be back.

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01:47:03.000 But going back to Bob Chapman, I want to take calls for him in this segment and the next.

01:47:08.000 And he's leaving us.

01:47:09.000 I'm going to blitz through a bunch of news and continue with your phone calls.

01:47:14.000 Right now, let's go to Michael in Texas.

01:47:16.000 You're on the air with Bob Chapman.

01:47:17.000 Go ahead.

01:47:20.000 Oh, he just dropped.

01:47:21.000 Man, okay, they do that right when you go to them.

01:47:23.000 Jerry in Indiana, go ahead.

01:47:25.000 Hey, Alex and Bob Chapman.

01:47:29.000 Thanks for standing up for liberty and freedom.

01:47:32.000 I got a question for Bob here.

01:47:35.000 You know, I've talked to our congressmen and representatives because things are really bad here in Indiana, unemployment-wise, just like across the nation.

01:47:43.000 I tell these people, you know, the definition of a third world is a country with no manufacturing base.

01:47:51.000 Bob, how do they expect to bring jobs back with NAFTA and GATT in place? 0.87

01:47:57.000 It's just ridiculous.

01:48:00.000 It's not going to happen unless we can change the complexion of Congress and pass tariffs on goods and services like we had since 1800, which helped make America a very strong nation.

01:48:17.000 Mercantilism is what free trade, globalization, offshoring and outsourcing is all about.

01:48:25.000 It's carried on by transnational conglomerates that keep their profits offshore and don't pay taxes on them.

01:48:33.000 And so that's why Congress doesn't want to pass that because they're all paid off by them.

01:48:37.000 And it's called campaign contributions.

01:48:40.000 And so, you gotta change Congress, and then we gotta put the axe in, and once we get that passed, everybody in the world's gonna be mad at us.

01:48:48.000 It's just too bad.

01:48:49.000 We got the biggest market in the world, and if you have tariffs on things, what's going to happen is the manufacturers have moved out, Are going to have no advantage of being where they are now, let's say in China, because the tariffs are going to make everything equal.

01:49:06.000 And let's expand on that.

01:49:08.000 With environmental rules and regulations, we have a tariff on ourselves against our own goods.

01:49:14.000 It's not free or fair to compete against Mexico or India. 0.97

01:49:18.000 And you can impound that into the tariff.

01:49:22.000 You can say, you don't have any environmental controls, and so, instead of charging you 50 cents per item, we're gonna charge you 75 to make up for that.

01:49:34.000 And then all that money goes in the Treasury.

01:49:38.000 And that's how we're supposed to fund the country, instead of the stinking income tax that goes to the private banks.

01:49:44.000 That's right.

01:49:46.000 Absolutely.

01:49:47.000 Who knows better?

01:49:49.000 The bankers that have raped and robbed us or the founding fathers that made America great?

01:49:53.000 Whose system do we want?

01:49:54.000 A bunch of fancy bankers come in here and tell us what they're going to do for us and how great it's going to be and it's wrecked us by design.

01:50:01.000 This is by design.

01:50:03.000 Any other comments, Jerry in Indiana?

01:50:06.000 Yes, uh, you know, my dad taught me for me, I'm 56 years old now, but he taught me at a young age, if you back somebody in a corner, they're gonna come out fighting.

01:50:16.000 What does the New World Order think of 200 million armed civilians, Bob?

01:50:23.000 They are going to be terrified, and if they bring in foreign troops, I can promise you, our military will make sure that they don't return from whence they came. 1.00

01:50:34.000 We'll be back!

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01:51:51.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:51:55.000 Man, the first three hours have gone by very quickly.

01:52:04.000 We're in the fourth and final hour.

01:52:05.000 I'll be back this Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

01:52:07.000 I have a special guest joining us.

01:52:09.000 Surprise guest in studio.

01:52:10.000 I want to stay with us for that.

01:52:12.000 I'm going to have Bob Chaffetz stay another 20 minutes with us, because I just really always enjoy talking to Bob, and I know the callers want to talk to him as well.

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01:52:20.000 And let's go to Mike in New York.

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01:52:23.000 And let's go to Mike in New York.

01:52:26.000 Mike, you're on the air worldwide.

01:52:28.000 Hi, Alex.

01:52:30.000 Thanks for having me on.

01:52:31.000 This is indeed a pleasure.

01:52:34.000 It's a first-time caller.

01:52:36.000 I have sort of like two questions regarding the Federal Reserve for Bob.

01:52:40.000 And what I want to know is, I heard that the Federal Reserve and a lot of the central banks do what's called double booking, where they double up what they say they purport having.

01:52:53.000 And then the other question that I want to ask you is with regards to if the audit should occur, And all this unraveling of corruption is unveiled to the masses.

01:53:06.000 What and how would that impact the gold reserves and the price of gold?

01:53:15.000 First of all, it'll make gold go up.

01:53:17.000 And secondly, we don't even know whether they have any gold.

01:53:20.000 They haven't had an audit since 1954.

01:53:23.000 And we see over the last couple of years in the general market where non-good delivery, gold has showed up, which is coin melt.

01:53:35.000 And as far as I know, the only nation in modern history that's melted coins was the United States government.

01:53:42.000 And so they have sold gold.

01:53:44.000 We don't know how much.

01:53:45.000 I know that there's gold in Fort Knox because one of the military people in one of the programs said, look, I was guarding it.

01:53:53.000 There's something there.

01:53:54.000 I don't know who it belongs to.

01:53:56.000 I don't know what's inside the gold-looking bars.

01:53:59.000 But we guarded them, and I was ahead of the detail.

01:54:03.000 Well, let me expand on this.

01:54:04.000 Let me expand on this, though.

01:54:05.000 For those who don't understand, they had a little bit of copper Or other, maybe 1% or less, into gold coins so that they're not soft, so the faces don't wear off, and so people can't easily grind them down.

01:54:19.000 Pure gold melts very easily, deforms very easily, and so yes, gold has shown up between central banks that's supposedly pure gold, like it's supposed to come in the bars, and it's not pure, showing chicaneries going on. 1.00

01:54:37.000 Go ahead, Bob.

01:54:39.000 And so, we don't know what the U.S. 0.94

01:54:43.000 has.

01:54:44.000 It would be nice if they had everything they say they have, but we know that's not so.

01:54:48.000 And this goes back to the late 60s.

01:54:50.000 Lyndon Johnson, we don't know what he did, and then they had the Rosa bonds, which were all redeemed, which were bonds that were given out and backed by gold, and people took the gold instead of taking the cash.

01:55:02.000 But, you know, they never reported on it.

01:55:04.000 All we can do is guess at what they did.

01:55:07.000 They hide these things all the time.

01:55:09.000 And the question is, why do they get to be so secretive?

01:55:13.000 Well, because they're doing something they shouldn't be doing.

01:55:16.000 And that brings us back to the first question, which about the Federal Reserve, a double counting or having double sets of books.

01:55:28.000 It's...

01:55:30.000 Well, yeah, we could call it two sets of books.

01:55:32.000 And the answer is yes.

01:55:33.000 But we won't know until we get there.

01:55:36.000 And when we get there, the people will be enraged.

01:55:39.000 And I would think that the other bill that Ron Paul has, which would do away with the Fed, would be passed.

01:55:46.000 And their responsibilities would be passed back to the U.S.

01:55:50.000 Treasury, where they laid under the Constitution until the Act of 1916, 1913.

01:55:59.000 And one of the important things, if that happens, is that we stop the revolving door between Wall Street banking and the U.S.

01:56:09.000 government, because they really control the government.

01:56:13.000 I mean, it's a 101 conflict of interest.

01:56:16.000 I appreciate your call, Mike.

01:56:17.000 Good to hear from you.

01:56:18.000 We're going to come back and talk to John, Mike, Kathy, Tom, and others, but I want to make a point when we return and get Bob's take on it.

01:56:25.000 We've seen this Federal Reserve disinfo put out.

01:56:28.000 Really through the Patriot community, as Cass Sunstein at the White House said, they've lost so much credibility, they have to pose as us to then get any credibility.

01:56:38.000 And they've been putting out this parrot message over and over again that you better not audit the Fed because you'll get something worse.

01:56:49.000 You can't get something worse.

01:56:50.000 We're already under a financial dictatorship of these people.

01:56:54.000 We'll be right back.

01:56:57.000 Hello, this is Alex Jones with some important questions.

01:57:00.000 If you're going into a battle and they give you a rifle and a sidearm, how much ammunition do you want?

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01:57:12.000 How much do you want?

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01:57:37.000 We don't know.

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02:00:03.000 Red Beckman talked about yesterday the fact that we've really been fully under the New World Order since the mid-'80s.

02:00:14.000 The U.S.

02:00:15.000 has been seized and used as a weapon, an engine of tyranny worldwide, and we've been given tyranny here domestically as well.

02:00:23.000 We're being treated like the third world nations that the private banks have fraudulently conquered.

02:00:29.000 The Federal Reserve is just a holding company front for the top less than 10 banks.

02:00:35.000 It was 10 back at the time of the Federal Reserve Act.

02:00:38.000 It's been very secretive, but some of that information's come out.

02:00:42.000 And they're partners with the Bank of England, they're partners with the Bundesbank, they coordinate through the G20, they don't even deny this anymore.

02:00:49.000 And so you abolish the Federal Reserve, you put the power back under the Congress, which is in the Constitution, and you educate the public about the issuance of currency and credit, and you turn credit loose to be an engine for the population.

02:01:04.000 You know, it came out over a decade ago, the Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports that they set up in the early fifties in Chicago, and by the seventies became the model of the country and the world.

02:01:15.000 Australia has them, England has them, Germany has them, Canada has it.

02:01:19.000 And so they use lawyer tricks to distract the public.

02:01:23.000 They say, oh well on budget we've got a budget shortfall, or on budget we need more taxes.

02:01:28.000 When the budget generally is less than about fifteen percent, and that's just a dead reckoning estimation, Of the state of Texas, Travis County where I live, similar around other parts of the country and the world.

02:01:43.000 You know, some places the budget's 30% compared to the real assets of the comprehensive annual financial report.

02:01:50.000 We have a DVD documentary I produced called comprehensive annual financial reports exposed.

02:01:59.000 Once we started exposing this in the late nineties, with Walter Berrien and others, and Bob and many others exposing it, these were public before, but in the age of the internet, they're now making most of it secret.

02:02:12.000 But you can still see the summaries.

02:02:14.000 And so what you have is the state of Texas, or the University of Texas.

02:02:18.000 These are just examples.

02:02:20.000 Where last time I checked, the University of Texas had 50 plus billion dollars In assets separate from their oil and gas and land holdings?

02:02:28.000 Because in Texas, the feds don't own much property.

02:02:31.000 The state of Texas owns a bunch.

02:02:33.000 And it goes to the university funds.

02:02:34.000 But that's separate even from that.

02:02:36.000 They take that money and they put it in Clear Channel Radio, for an example.

02:02:40.000 They put it in the Rangers baseball team.

02:02:44.000 They put it in defense contractors.

02:02:46.000 They put it in all sorts of programs.

02:02:49.000 They invest it in carbon credit allotments.

02:02:52.000 And so they're taking your money and then giving it to private interests.

02:02:56.000 So people who say, oh, we better not get rid of the Federal Reserve, we'll get something worse.

02:03:01.000 You can't get something worse.

02:03:03.000 We have a dictatorship of the private banks controlling our economy and feeding our wealth into their systems.

02:03:10.000 And then they have control of the insider trading and selectively enforce and allow them and their cronies to do this.

02:03:18.000 Could, if we start auditing the Fed and get ready to abolish it, yeah, they're going to come back with some new thing that gives them the same power again, but they already have unlimited fraudulent power.

02:03:29.000 So you can't get anything worse.

02:03:31.000 You get into the Fed, as Bernanke's admitted, that would destroy the Fed because it's so corrupt, you will further discredit them and send them all to prison.

02:03:40.000 So anybody that says, and I hear this mantra, don't audit the Fed, Ron Paul's bad, it is pure baloney.

02:03:47.000 Bob Chapman.

02:03:49.000 I couldn't have said it better.

02:03:50.000 You covered it all.

02:03:52.000 You hit it right on the head, and that's the way it's bent.

02:03:54.000 And you know, this goes all the way back to the 12th century that we know of.

02:04:00.000 Most recorded history only goes back to the 7th century.

02:04:03.000 But beyond there, it's smattering until you get into the Renaissance.

02:04:09.000 This is nothing new.

02:04:11.000 This has been done over and over and over again.

02:04:13.000 And that's how I'm able to back into what these people will do next.

02:04:18.000 Because all you have to do is look at history and what they did before.

02:04:21.000 They're monopoly men.

02:04:22.000 If they can get control of the government and the issuance of currency and credit, as the Rothschilds constantly said and put on the doorways of their houses, that as long as we control the issuance of currency and credit, I don't care who the king is.

02:04:41.000 And they create money to finance the King's wars.

02:04:46.000 And they finance the King's enemies, so they've got to come to them.

02:04:51.000 That's right.

02:04:52.000 Both sides of every conflict.

02:04:55.000 Saddam Hussein, CIA.

02:04:57.000 Bin Laden, CIA.

02:04:59.000 Fidel Castro, CIA.

02:05:01.000 It's all staged.

02:05:02.000 Pol Pot, CIA. 0.72

02:05:04.000 Brzezinski brags about it.

02:05:09.000 And he's one of the main architects, along with Henry Kissinger.

02:05:13.000 Fortunately, they're getting old.

02:05:15.000 But there'll be people there to take their place, that's for sure.

02:05:19.000 I want to go to Mike, Kathy, Tom and Kevin quickly here, Bob, but who are the new Super Gophers?

02:05:24.000 Because we really don't see...

02:05:27.000 Richard Holbrook or somebody like that, Rahm Emanuel, replacing the super gophers of the elite. 0.96

02:05:36.000 Who do you see to replace David Rockefeller and people like that?

02:05:39.000 It's a hard call right now.

02:05:43.000 I just can't answer that.

02:05:44.000 I don't know.

02:05:46.000 Me neither.

02:05:48.000 It seems like those old timers were a lot more hard working.

02:05:52.000 You talk to more modern globalists and they really seem soft.

02:05:57.000 Well it's certainly not aggressive, and we certainly don't know who's being groomed, or which ones are being groomed, and it's generally kept from us.

02:06:09.000 And most of the people we know who are involved now at the upper level, or the semi-upper level, they're usually from 65 years old onward.

02:06:20.000 Occasionally they'll be 55 or onward, but they're usually older men.

02:06:26.000 Let's talk to John in Florida and Mike and others.

02:06:28.000 Go ahead, John.

02:06:30.000 Hi, thanks for having me.

02:06:31.000 I got a couple questions.

02:06:33.000 As far as if we have a revolution and what have you and we totally destroy the tyrannical government we have in place, what happens to our money we have in savings?

02:06:45.000 As far as the dollar, do we go with the dollar?

02:06:47.000 Well, that's how they hold us hostage.

02:06:49.000 We've had a 98% evaluation since 1913, and it's just like a bad employee or, you know, sometimes a mean husband that's beating you up.

02:06:59.000 You've just got to leave.

02:07:00.000 I mean, it's going to be rough either way.

02:07:01.000 Bob Chapman.

02:07:03.000 Well, if you've got money in the bank and in the general stock market and in bonds, you're going to lose a lot of money, maybe all of it.

02:07:12.000 The only safe place to be is the gold and silver.

02:07:18.000 Alright, go ahead.

02:07:20.000 With this Federal Reserve thing, I was speaking with a banker the other day, and they couldn't enlighten me on the fact, but I see with my savings account, we get under a quarter percent interest for savings.

02:07:32.000 In turn, the bank loans me somebody else's money, which is the way the money is that they give me in loans, at 3% to 18%.

02:07:41.000 And how is it legal for them to do that, with the Federal Reserve having the interest rate set at 0.25%?

02:07:48.000 Because that low rate is for the bankers, not for you, Bob Chapman.

02:07:53.000 That's right.

02:07:55.000 And incidentally, you may not be borrowing your neighbor's deposit, because the banks, historically, have created 8 to 10 times more Credit than what they have in deposits.

02:08:11.000 That's right.

02:08:11.000 You're paying interest.

02:08:15.000 And recently, during this last go-around, they got 40 to 50 to 60 to 70 times basic deposits.

02:08:26.000 And they had to know that they were going to get in trouble.

02:08:30.000 Yeah, to explain that. 1.00

02:08:31.000 And it's stupid. 1.00

02:08:32.000 To explain that. 0.99

02:08:34.000 They're charging people with credit cards, in many cases, 25-30% interest on literally made-up money.

02:08:40.000 Okay?

02:08:41.000 So they want you to default so that they get your real assets and get control of you.

02:08:46.000 The name of the game is control.

02:08:47.000 Thank you, John.

02:08:47.000 Mike in Wyoming.

02:08:48.000 You're on the air, Mike.

02:08:52.000 Yes, hi, Alex, Bob.

02:08:54.000 Bob, are you keeping up with this UBS situation versus the IRS?

02:09:00.000 Yeah, the Swiss government.

02:09:02.000 Right.

02:09:02.000 And the Swiss government's come back unofficially and said, well, you know, UBS under the law in Switzerland can't do that.

02:09:10.000 And another prominent person within the Swiss government says, well, if you do that and make them expose these people, well, the biggest bank in the country is going to go under.

02:09:24.000 Yeah, that was Times of London.

02:09:26.000 And thousands of people are going to be unemployed, etc.

02:09:30.000 And he's right.

02:09:32.000 And you know, they let Switzerland do what they did for many, many years.

02:09:36.000 People brought wealth to Switzerland to have it professionally managed, but also to avoid onerous taxation by different countries.

02:09:45.000 And by the way, they are selectively looting those offshore bank accounts.

02:09:50.000 All the big boys do whatever they want offshore and don't get touched.

02:09:53.000 They want to rob people that got a few million dollars or whatever.

02:09:58.000 And you're right about that.

02:09:59.000 I lived in Switzerland.

02:10:01.000 I know the mentality.

02:10:02.000 In fact, I went to school at the Université de Genève.

02:10:05.000 I took the interpreter's course for French.

02:10:08.000 And so living in Switzerland for three years, speaking both French and German, you get a pretty good idea of where people are coming from.

02:10:16.000 And you've got to remember that during the war, they cooperated fully with Germany.

02:10:22.000 And when Germany Uh, wanted to get things that they couldn't get otherwise the Swiss would help them do it or manufacture it for them and they would store much of the stolen things that were taken from people who, uh, were put into camps and, uh, uh, it was dreadful what they did. 0.78

02:10:44.000 Really dreadful.

02:10:47.000 Anything else, Mike?

02:10:49.000 Yeah, my question is, is there a safe haven these days if, uh, if the Swiss are gone? 0.99

02:10:55.000 No, there's no... I don't think there's any safe havens left.

02:11:00.000 I mean, you should have your money where you live.

02:11:04.000 That's why they call it... You should have the bulk of your assets in gold and silver.

02:11:07.000 That's why they call it the New World Order.

02:11:09.000 There's nowhere to run.

02:11:09.000 Alright, thank you.

02:11:12.000 Thank you, Mike.

02:11:13.000 Bob, I'm going to twist your arm to do five more minutes. 1.00

02:11:15.000 Is that cool?

02:11:17.000 Of course it is.

02:11:18.000 All right, well if you've got to go, I understand.

02:11:19.000 We're going to go to break then, come right back to you and try to get to Kathy, Tom, Kevin and John if we have time as quickly as possible.

02:11:27.000 And then I'm going to news blitz and cover some other key issues in the last 30 minutes of this radio broadcast today.

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02:16:15.000 You're on the air with Bob Chapman and Alex Jones.

02:16:17.000 Go ahead.

02:16:17.000 Welcome. - Hi, how are you Bob and Alice?

02:16:21.000 I wanted to share a little secret.

02:16:23.000 We gave up our Saints season tickets this year in order to finance our radio show.

02:16:29.000 That's how dedicated we were.

02:16:31.000 We were able to share the whole truth with New Orleans.

02:16:34.000 About the Fed, Cap-and-Trade, Copenhagen.

02:16:37.000 We were able to save countless number of people of not taking the slime flu shot and was worth every penny.

02:16:46.000 You know it's funny you brought that up, Kathy, because in the next segment I was going to talk about boycotting the Super Bowl.

02:16:55.000 And I'll explain why when we come back, but you just crystallized it.

02:16:59.000 Swine flu shot killing people, full of mercury, economy falling apart, our country sliding into depression.

02:17:07.000 And it's not that the Super Bowl is bad, it's that we better make some sacrifices and get our heads screwed on straight for real issues, or we're going to lose it all and be like Argentina or Nigeria. 0.99

02:17:20.000 Bob Chapman.

02:17:22.000 Well, I think you're absolutely right.

02:17:25.000 This is a way to do it, and it's about time people turned away from the frivialities of the social life of America, in fact, worldwide.

02:17:38.000 You've got to get serious about what's going on.

02:17:41.000 It's very, very bad, and it's not going to get better, it's going to get worse.

02:17:45.000 You've got to change your priorities.

02:17:49.000 How much were you able to sell season tickets for?

02:17:54.000 No, we didn't even sell them, we gave them up.

02:17:56.000 Because we had, this was our goal, to get this radio talk show.

02:18:02.000 We didn't have sponsors at the time, with Patriot Radio, and we didn't have a sponsor at the time, and we had a chance to get a radio spot, so we didn't even sell it.

02:18:12.000 We gave them up, not even, you know, thinking of that.

02:18:16.000 Now, you know, hindsight, we wish that we would have sold them, but we were so, we were so dedicated at the time, because if you remember, last March, That's when we started hearing the information about the swine flu and what was going to happen.

02:18:29.000 And we felt like we had to get on the ground floor so we could tell people, you know, not to take the shots.

02:18:35.000 You know, I recognize your voice.

02:18:37.000 Didn't you and your partner come visit me at the office?

02:18:41.000 We did.

02:18:42.000 On his birthday, you let us in.

02:18:45.000 It was just so cool.

02:18:46.000 You gave him a CD for his birthday.

02:18:51.000 And you encourage this.

02:18:52.000 And you know, in the beginning, it's not really easy to get a sponsor.

02:18:56.000 Now we're with Ecolablue and we love them and we have a great relationship and we talk to Dr. Reema Labo every week and it's just great.

02:19:06.000 But you know, that first step out in faith, you have to do it.

02:19:11.000 You have to do it.

02:19:12.000 Well, I appreciate your call.

02:19:13.000 Yeah, I've always encouraged my listeners to go buy Saturday or Sunday time to start with.

02:19:19.000 And if you do it a few months, you normally get enough listeners to get a few sponsors to then finance yourself to wake up tens of thousands in your town or city.

02:19:27.000 And if I remember correctly, they're on a pretty big station in New Orleans.

02:19:30.000 You know, start a website, whatever.

02:19:32.000 It's about everybody being leaders.

02:19:35.000 And that's what I've always tried to facilitate.

02:19:37.000 Or get an access TV show or start a local newspaper or newsletter.

02:19:41.000 Again, it's about empowering everyone to take action, Bob.

02:19:45.000 Everybody listens to Glenn Beck, and we are going to fight to get them to come on our side.

02:19:54.000 And this is worthy of fighting.

02:19:56.000 Well, Kathy, that's great news.

02:19:58.000 Let me jam in one quick more call for Bob Chapman.

02:20:01.000 A quick question for Bob.

02:20:02.000 Tom in Arizona, you're on the air.

02:20:04.000 Go ahead.

02:20:05.000 Hey, thanks for having me.

02:20:06.000 Hey, with the $1.5 trillion deficit that we've got, and they're going to refinance $2 trillion of short-term Treasuries coming due, how are they going to do this?

02:20:16.000 Are they going to have a $300 billion auction?

02:20:20.000 What's Bernanke going to do?

02:20:21.000 How is he going to flow that?

02:20:22.000 They're going to monetize it.

02:20:23.000 They're going to buy it themselves with SDRs, right, Bob?

02:20:25.000 Yeah, we lose Bob's line.

02:20:34.000 He's not in the United States sometimes, but I can... We'll have him back on next week, or if he calls back in, we'll say bye to him.

02:20:41.000 But absolutely, Tom, I mean, they're going to have to monetize it.

02:20:45.000 The Federal Reserve's going to buy it itself.

02:20:48.000 That's kind of like the snake eating its tail, isn't it?

02:20:51.000 Right, but when they're putting out Treasury auctions at $1.3 billion, they're going to have to start doubling this stuff.

02:20:58.000 Let me get Bob to answer the question.

02:21:00.000 Bob, your line dropped.

02:21:01.000 Real fast, how is the Fed, when it offers trillions of dollars of... I mean, ask your question again, caller.

02:21:10.000 Look, we've got a $1.5 trillion deficit, and he's got to refinance another $2 trillion that are coming due in short-term Treasuries.

02:21:18.000 That's $3.5 trillion they're going to have to auction off this coming year.

02:21:22.000 And who's going to buy it?

02:21:23.000 They're going to monetize it, aren't they, Bob?

02:21:26.000 They will, yes.

02:21:28.000 And that's why they're after the retirement plans.

02:21:31.000 All right.

02:21:31.000 I want you to be able to finish this.

02:21:33.000 We're going to do two minutes on the other side with Bob and plug how you get the international forecaster.

02:21:36.000 Stay there, Bob, since your line dropped.

02:21:38.000 I want you to be able to explain what this means to have monetization of debt.

02:21:43.000 This is a big deal.

02:21:44.000 This is what they just did in Venezuela.

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02:25:07.000 Bob, explain to people what it means when they start monetizing debt.

02:25:11.000 I mean, I'm correct in saying that's what we've seen in Zimbabwe and we just saw that in Venezuela.

02:25:19.000 They've been monetizing debt the last four years and they just devalued their currency last month by 50%.

02:25:25.000 They're talking about another 50% cut next year.

02:25:29.000 I mean, explain to people what that means.

02:25:32.000 What it means is that the Federal Reserve creates money out of thin air.

02:25:37.000 And let's say it's a trillion dollars.

02:25:40.000 And that money goes somewhere.

02:25:42.000 And the minute the money is used, like in purchasing Treasury bills, or purchasing agency securities, Fannie, Freddie, Ginnie, and FHA, or by buying toxic waste, which are the bonds which contain mortgages, that money goes into the system.

02:26:02.000 In a minute it gets used, it's monetization, and it's very inflationary.

02:26:07.000 And that's what happened in Zimbabwe and Weimar Germany, recently in Venezuela, usually by governments that have mishandled their government and their finances.

02:26:17.000 And so where does it lead?

02:26:18.000 It leads to devaluation.

02:26:20.000 And I think there is a chance in the next year and a half that there could be an official devaluation of the U.S.

02:26:27.000 dollar in congruity With other nations, they'd have a meeting to do that, as they have in the past.

02:26:35.000 And also, a debt settlement among nations, probably on the order of about 30 cents on the dollar.

02:26:41.000 And I think that's coming.

02:26:43.000 And a lot of people say, no, no, no, no, no.

02:26:45.000 But they're going to have to do it.

02:26:47.000 They're not going to have any choice.

02:26:49.000 And we had the caller earlier saying, if I get rid of the Federal Reserve, it may devalue my money in the bank.

02:26:54.000 They're the ones that are doing it!

02:26:57.000 Can the Federal Reserve?

02:26:58.000 No, it's not worth the paper they're written on.

02:27:01.000 There are only confidence notes.

02:27:03.000 And the minute the confidence is lost, and that's in the process of happening, not only here in America, but throughout Europe, as you've just seen.

02:27:11.000 And so this kind of thing will lead internationally to a multilateral devaluation, perhaps of all currencies, or revaluation.

02:27:24.000 Some currencies will go up against others.

02:27:27.000 But the key is, they're all going to go down against gold.

02:27:37.000 Because gold hasn't really gone up, it's just the currencies have gone down.

02:27:42.000 That's correct.

02:27:44.000 And the currencies have gone down, the dollar will take as an example.

02:27:48.000 Officially, since 1980 when gold was $8.50, it should be selling on an official basis vis-a-vis The inflation during that period of time, about $2,400 an ounce, and is selling for $1,066.

02:28:04.000 And so, the central banks have been responsible for the suppression of gold for the last 22 years, officially and legally.

02:28:18.000 Incredible.

02:28:19.000 Absolutely incredible.

02:28:21.000 Bob, I'm going to let you punch out here unless you want to go ahead and just go all the way to the 50 and take a few more calls.

02:28:28.000 I'll go with you.

02:28:30.000 All right.

02:28:30.000 Bob's not punching out.

02:28:32.000 We always love having him.

02:28:34.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Tom in Arizona.

02:28:38.000 Tom, go ahead.

02:28:40.000 Yeah, I was the guy that asked the question about the auctions that are coming up.

02:28:44.000 So did that answer your question?

02:28:46.000 Yeah, I just want one thing to ask Bob, is by devaluating, like you just explained, that means they're not going to be able to go to an auction with $300 billion, because if they came out with an auction at $300 billion, that would be catastrophic.

02:29:01.000 But they've already been buying their own auctions.

02:29:04.000 How many times did that happen last year, Bob?

02:29:06.000 80% of the Treasury auctions were bought indirectly and directly by the Federal Reserve.

02:29:13.000 Yeah, so see, sir, they're already doing this.

02:29:18.000 And that's why they want your retirement.

02:29:20.000 Tom, I appreciate your call, but let me try to explain this for people.

02:29:24.000 Yeah, because that's old money.

02:29:25.000 And correct me if I'm wrong here, looking at this, but that's why the Federal Reserve has ordered regional and local banks not to loan and to, in the real world, actually jack up interest rates.

02:29:39.000 Like, interest rates are at zero.

02:29:41.000 But there's many credit cards above 30 now.

02:29:43.000 I mean, this is loan sharking.

02:29:46.000 They are trying to control inflation by making themselves flush in money to buy big instruments, other banks, companies, military firms, infrastructure.

02:29:57.000 But freezing and using a true depression in the real economy to try to mask that so it's a bizarre alchemy they're engaged in trying to protect their own structure at the expense of everything else.

02:30:15.000 Is that accurate, Bob?

02:30:17.000 It certainly is.

02:30:19.000 See, the idea of all of those programs like TARP and the rest of them ...was to make sure that the big banks, brokerage houses, insurance companies stayed in business.

02:30:31.000 And they used the taxpayers' money to do that.

02:30:34.000 That doesn't mean that those entities are solvent, because they're not.

02:30:38.000 Because they're carrying two sets of books.

02:30:41.000 And so they're not out of the woods.

02:30:44.000 And they hold, the top 10 banks in New York hold 70% of the deposits of individuals in the United States.

02:30:51.000 So they're holding us hostage.

02:30:53.000 They think they can get away with it.

02:30:55.000 Or, as Dr. Roberts and others have said, they were planning a fleecing, but this black hole is so big, it even endangers their system, and now the really scary thing is they're not in control.

02:31:08.000 Bob, what do you say to that?

02:31:11.000 Well, I think they're running fast, and every time you run fast, you make mistakes.

02:31:16.000 You're cutting corners, and you're backing off, and you're bobbing and weaving, and that leads to unsound thinking.

02:31:25.000 And so all these dumb things you see happening is because we're pushing them, and we've got to keep on doing it.

02:31:33.000 What would our situation from your studied view be if for 45 years, almost 50 Bob, with yourself and Red Beckman and G.E.B.

02:31:43.000 Griffin and many others, and the newer batch of patriots that popped up 15 years ago because of Waco like myself, and then now they even, I mean it's exponential.

02:31:54.000 You guys were about, you know, An inch deep because there was not very many of you.

02:31:59.000 Then it got to be about a foot deep in the mid 90s.

02:32:02.000 Now on scales, I'd say we're about a thousand foot deep in Patriots.

02:32:06.000 I mean, we are.

02:32:06.000 And that's not an exaggeration, folks.

02:32:08.000 It's just it's the hottest thing out there.

02:32:11.000 Even mainstream media says conspiracy is taking over.

02:32:13.000 It's not conspiracy.

02:32:14.000 It's education. 1.00

02:32:15.000 It's not being idiot dumbbells who know all about sports, but know nothing about how the world works. 0.99

02:32:22.000 There is a rediscovery because it's so dangerous to not be informed now. 0.99

02:32:26.000 Where would we be if you and others 50 years ago hadn't started fighting the New World Order, Bob? 0.75

02:32:34.000 Well, they would have been out of the way and we would have had a totally different society and people would have lived throughout the world.

02:32:42.000 Uh, much better than they are today because the people at the top wouldn't be around stealing everything.

02:32:48.000 But that's the reverse of my question.

02:32:50.000 I'm sorry I wasn't clear.

02:32:51.000 If you and others, well you've been doing this 48 years, if you hadn't been there fighting them and publishing books that, I don't know, 5 million copies or whatever went out of that Gary Allen book you published, I mean... You call it conspiracy.

02:33:07.000 Yes.

02:33:08.000 How many copies of that?

02:33:10.000 Oh, there were millions of them.

02:33:12.000 That was in the seven.

02:33:12.000 I think it was five million.

02:33:13.000 Yeah, we used to get them printed up for five cents a piece.

02:33:15.000 It was pretty good.

02:33:17.000 Yeah.

02:33:18.000 But I mean, if you hadn't been there with tens of thousands of other patriots, how bad would it be now?

02:33:25.000 Oh, it'd be dreadful because the people who are learning and have learned, say, since the 1980s, wouldn't have been able to learn because we wouldn't have been there to help them.

02:33:36.000 And then I wouldn't be here.

02:33:38.000 Probably not.

02:33:40.000 I mean, there were congressmen and senators fighting the bankers 100 years ago, 200 years ago in the time of Andrew Jackson, and 235 years ago in the time of George Washington, but from 1900, there was an early wave, then it subsided, I'd say you were part of the second wave, then there was a third wave, I'm part of the third wave, there's a fourth wave, my God, what's the fifth wave gonna be, Bob?

02:34:04.000 It's going to be all the people that we help to train about the truth and the knowledge that we need to live a life of freedom and a life to its fullest.

02:34:16.000 And evidently, we've been kind of chosen to do this kind of a job and we like doing it, so we do it.

02:34:25.000 I mean, who else is 74 years old is running around like a madman like me, with the exception of G. Edward Griffin.

02:34:32.000 Or Red Beckman, 81.

02:34:34.000 Or, or, Dr. Stan Monteith.

02:34:37.000 He's, uh, he's 88.

02:34:38.000 I'm 78.

02:34:40.000 None dare call a conspiracy.

02:34:42.000 Gary Allen with, uh...

02:34:44.000 Larry Abraham, an incredible book.

02:34:46.000 This is the book, when I was in high school, that really, really woke me up.

02:34:51.000 And then I knew the knowledge, so when I went to college, I understood the propaganda.

02:34:55.000 But think about it.

02:34:57.000 First wave, 1910, 1920 or so, into the 30s, very small.

02:35:00.000 Second wave, 1950s, Bob Chapman and other icons of liberty.

02:35:02.000 Very small.

02:35:03.000 Second wave, 1950s, Bob Chapman and other icons of liberty.

02:35:07.000 Really the blooming of that second wave in the 80s.

02:35:13.000 The huge wave in the mid-90s when I really got active, but I was at the tail end of that new wave.

02:35:19.000 And now this giant fourth wave.

02:35:21.000 Notice, Bob, the waves are coming faster and faster and getting exponentially bigger.

02:35:26.000 That's why the globalists are rushing, and in all their white papers, targeting us in many cases by name.

02:35:32.000 We are literally grappling with the new world order.

02:35:37.000 Showing the people the power of the individual, Bob.

02:35:41.000 We sure are, and we're grappling, not with the New World Order, with Satan himself.

02:35:45.000 You know, we ought to find out who's gotten under a call of conspiracy and buy a bunch of them.

02:35:53.000 This is an ancient copy right here.

02:35:55.000 I have about ten copies.

02:35:59.000 Oh, man.

02:36:00.000 And I never had Gary sign them.

02:36:03.000 I've gotten more books by people and read them and critiqued them and all of that, and I never have people bother to sign them for me.

02:36:13.000 You were involved in the financing of the original publication, correct?

02:36:16.000 Yes, that's correct.

02:36:20.000 Now the number I've got on this is 5 million in print.

02:36:24.000 Yeah, but there was more than that.

02:36:26.000 I think they did one more printing after that.

02:36:30.000 And then we had a warehouse full of them.

02:36:33.000 And so we would sell them in batches and you know a box would go out for postage and five bucks just to spread them out.

02:36:44.000 You know we were pamphleteers.

02:36:46.000 We couldn't get on the radio.

02:36:48.000 I think the first one that was successful getting on the radio was Alan Stang.

02:36:53.000 He was on a station in Glendale, California, and I used to go on with him once in a while, but that was in the early 80s.

02:36:59.000 That was 20 years after we started.

02:37:01.000 And Sting died last year.

02:37:03.000 Eusis Mullins died Tuesday.

02:37:05.000 I tell you, you and... Eusis was a very good friend of mine as well.

02:37:10.000 In fact, I put Renzi's obit into this issue for tomorrow, and I put a little piece in myself.

02:37:20.000 In fact, give me a document cam shot for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

02:37:23.000 Radio listeners, I guess, can't see this.

02:37:26.000 It says, you can buy books yourself at quantity price and distribute them as described in Chapter 8.

02:37:31.000 One copy, $1.

02:37:32.000 Three copies, $2.

02:37:34.000 Ten copies, $5.

02:37:35.000 You guys were selling them at cost because your heart was in the right place.

02:37:38.000 That's why it had such effect.

02:37:39.000 Twenty-five copies, $10.

02:37:40.000 Ten copies, 100 copies, $30.

02:37:42.000 100 copies, $30.

02:37:44.000 10 cartons, $250.

02:37:47.000 So all of this is going on.

02:37:50.000 1,000 copies for $250 selling these Operation Counterattack.

02:37:55.000 Look at this.

02:37:56.000 Now, I remember reading this book, and I believe this is even the copy I had back in the early 90s, or I guess in the late 80s, and I remember reading this book and then years later making my first film in 97 and saying, it's free, Basically, like none dare call a conspiracy, make copies of it.

02:38:15.000 And again, that's why listeners need to understand.

02:38:18.000 Now is the time to be getting Obama Deception, Follow the Republic, and Endgame, and Truth Rising, and the other films and books we produced and sell.

02:38:27.000 Now is the time to be making copies of my films, because we're into the fourth wave now.

02:38:33.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is the ultimate time of awakening.

02:38:36.000 I mean, you talk about clawing and scratching and battling down in the literal trenches like Bob and others did 30, 40, 50 years ago.

02:38:45.000 Now, the people are ready to hear us and we're standing on the shoulders of people like Bob.

02:38:51.000 I mean, Bob, how important is it to fight back now?

02:38:56.000 It's for your whole life and the lives of all the people you're a progeny that comes behind you.

02:39:02.000 Because if you don't beat these people, your children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc., are going to live on their knees.

02:39:08.000 They're going to be enslaved.

02:39:10.000 These people are evil, and you've got to stop them.

02:39:16.000 You know, that's the amazing thing, Bob.

02:39:17.000 I know you've had a lot of threats.

02:39:18.000 They've tried to set you up, even drove you out of the country.

02:39:22.000 For exposing them, and when I get persecuted, it just lets me know how real this is, and how important it is, and then I don't even care about myself.

02:39:31.000 It's not even my children.

02:39:32.000 I realize how fast our generation's come and go.

02:39:35.000 I'm envisioning my children's great-grandchildren, and that I want them to be free, and I'll do anything to stop them from being slaves, and people are caught up in American Idol, football, things that don't matter, folks, when our entire Humanity, who we are, is literally being destroyed right now by a scientific tyranny.

02:39:58.000 We can't give the world up.

02:40:00.000 To a bunch of vicious control freaks.

02:40:02.000 And I see all these, all these hollow people who have money, who have power, and they're so unhappy because they've never tuned in to what it really is to be human and realize that we're all just part of the species and the measure of who we are and the value of who we are is how we empower humanity.

02:40:23.000 And then once you reach this point, you're not worried about being killed or tortured.

02:40:27.000 You're only worried about beating the enemy.

02:40:29.000 Bob Chapman.

02:40:31.000 I agree completely.

02:40:32.000 And of course, being older, and you know, you're young enough to be my son.

02:40:37.000 In fact, my son's 41 years old.

02:40:40.000 And your fear leaves.

02:40:43.000 There is no fear anymore.

02:40:45.000 Because you know that your body and your mind eventually are going to break down.

02:40:49.000 It's the causation of existence as a human being.

02:40:54.000 And so you become freer and freer and freer.

02:40:57.000 And, you know, you walk on air.

02:40:59.000 They can't touch you.

02:41:00.000 There's nothing they can do.

02:41:02.000 And that's the time that all of you people out there who are in 60s and 70s and 80s should get together and do something positive and help.

02:41:13.000 Because there's so many people sitting around doing nothing when they could be doing something.

02:41:19.000 And if you sit around doing nothing, you're going to atrophy physically and mentally.

02:41:26.000 So let's help out.

02:41:28.000 Don't turn your back on it.

02:41:30.000 Don't be mad because you're going to die.

02:41:33.000 Everybody has to.

02:41:35.000 There's no way out of this world except that way.

02:41:39.000 And so get with it.

02:41:41.000 Yeah, the world sells us a certain selfishness that being involved or standing up or fighting is somehow weak, and that just caring about yourself and greedily hiding with a bunch of crap and a bunch of baubles is success, when the whole point of humanity is helping your tribe, helping your people, helping build something for the future, because I'm going to die, but my progeny are going to go on forever unless I let these people win!

02:42:10.000 It's just, if people could grasp, Bob, what you and I grasp, and this unchanging, total truth, we would free ourselves overnight.

02:42:19.000 And to see the whole world in the grip of the beast, it's just such an illusion.

02:42:25.000 It's such a trance.

02:42:27.000 It's a hoax.

02:42:28.000 It's a fraud.

02:42:29.000 It's a lie.

02:42:30.000 TheInternationalForecaster.com, I think this is one of our best interviews ever.

02:42:34.000 Bob, have a great weekend, and God bless you, my friend.

02:42:36.000 We'll talk to you again soon.

02:42:38.000 Thank you very much and thank you all for listening.

02:42:42.000 We'll come back in the final segment with some final thoughts.

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02:46:16.000 Those rift earth days are past me now.

02:46:20.000 I've got so much more to think about.

02:46:23.000 Deadlines.

02:46:25.000 Deadlines and commitments.

02:46:28.000 What to leave in, what to leave out.

02:46:32.000 I think about it.

02:46:34.000 The beautiful night sky, the distant stars, millions and millions and trillions of miles away.

02:46:41.000 I think about all the beauty, all the richness of consciousness and life and experience.

02:46:49.000 It is the job of good, virtuous men and women who love innocence and beauty and honor.

02:47:01.000 To spend our time, to sacrifice our energies against tyranny.

02:47:08.000 Does that mean any of us are perfect?

02:47:09.000 No.

02:47:09.000 The world will come back at you.

02:47:11.000 The old serpent will come at you and tell you you're not good, you're bad, and point out to you the things you've done that are wrong.

02:47:17.000 That doesn't matter.

02:47:18.000 What matters is your heart.

02:47:20.000 Like God said to King David, your heart was right. 0.99

02:47:25.000 Didn't matter even some of the mistakes and bad things he did.

02:47:28.000 At the end of the day, he was a good man.

02:47:32.000 And to the listeners out there, I have become the main symbol worldwide of resistance to the New World Order.

02:47:42.000 The only other person who could rival what we've done here is Ron Paul.

02:47:47.000 And he is a great statesman and a good man, but he's old.

02:47:51.000 And I have searched the world for bona fide patriots, people who are real, people who I've watched for a long time.

02:47:59.000 And I find them with the common people.

02:48:02.000 I don't find them with the elitist.

02:48:04.000 I don't find them with the globalist.

02:48:05.000 I don't find them even in much of the people that you would see as leadership against the fight against the New World Order.

02:48:13.000 And many times I say I'm not cut out for this job.

02:48:17.000 The responsibility is too great.

02:48:19.000 The power I've been given is humbling.

02:48:27.000 Yesterday, I pulled into a Mexican food restaurant to eat quickly.

02:48:31.000 I had to come back to work and work till late in the evening.

02:48:35.000 And the people at the door were listeners.

02:48:38.000 As I walked by the bar, they were listeners.

02:48:41.000 A woman came over from a table. 1.00

02:48:42.000 A family came over.

02:48:44.000 People from New Zealand who were there stopped and took photos with me and said, New Zealand is on fire with you, Alex Jones.

02:48:55.000 I have a great responsibility.

02:49:02.000 Thank you.

02:49:07.000 And it is because my heart is true, and I'm real, and I work hard, that we've had this much success.

02:49:15.000 And we go into very dark waters.

02:49:18.000 The enemy is moving against us on every front.

02:49:22.000 But they don't want to yet smash me, because that will make me a martyr.

02:49:27.000 And I pledge this to you, I will do the best job I can, possibly, in this weak body and this flesh, to be a pure, good person.

02:49:36.000 But at the end of the day, that doesn't even matter.

02:49:40.000 Because no doubt, I will fail as many times as I succeed.

02:49:47.000 And I am just as worldly as the next person, but I want to be good, and I want to defeat the tyranny.

02:49:55.000 But through you, We will defeat the New World Order with God's help.

02:50:00.000 Remember that.

02:50:01.000 It is the idea of freedom, the idea of liberty, the idea of honor and everything that is good and pure that will trump the lie.

02:50:11.000 And so remember the important mission you're on and just how serious the times are that we're in.

02:50:17.000 The destiny of humanity is being decided right now.

02:50:21.000 For many generations in the future, our progeny will look back on this time As a place where humanity stood up against tyranny, or as a time when we fell to total darkness.

02:50:33.000 God bless you all.

02:50:34.000 Great job, crew.

02:50:35.000 Transmission starts now.

Alex Jones Show - February 05, 2010

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