Alex Jones Show - 20100412_Mon_Alex

00:00:01.000 Okay, coming up at the bottom of the next hour, we're going to get into what's happening with the economy, Obama's Supreme Court picks, he's looking at Napolitano of Homeland Security and others.

00:00:14.000 We're also going to get into provocateurs openly announce plans to stage Tea Party violence to demonize the Tea Parties and claim that they're violent.

00:00:23.000 We have a full court press claiming that I'm calling for violence on every major news channel out there, Southern Poverty Law Center, you name it.

00:00:31.000 Why is that happening?

00:00:33.000 But until the bottom of the hour, Lt.

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00:00:35.000 Anthony Schaefer joins us via video Skype from Ireland.

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00:00:39.000 Anthony Schaefer is a Bronze Star recipient with more than 25 years of experience in the intelligence community, including directing the Defense Intelligence Agency Task Force Stratus IV.

00:00:48.000 Under his lead, Stratus IV conducted some of the most daring and innovative human intelligence collection and information operation ever undertaken by the Department of Defense, as well as providing information to support the SOCOM program AbleDanger.

00:01:00.000 And currently he is a senior fellow at the External Communications Director of Special Lecturer at the Center for Advanced Defense Studies in Washington, D.C.

00:01:09.000 He instructs classes in psychology of terrorism and intelligence analysts, and he's also a contributor to many mainstream television programs out there.

00:01:18.000 Good to have you on.

00:01:19.000 Now, Colonel Schaffer, can you tell us why you're in Ireland, or is that classified?

00:01:25.000 No, it's just vacation.

00:01:27.000 Getting a few days away before the build-up for the book is probably the best way of describing what I'm doing.

00:01:34.000 Well, you're nice to spend time with us on your vacation there on the Emerald Isle.

00:01:40.000 Let's start off, there's a lot of subjects to cover with the WikiLeaks video coming out last week with the video of the Apaches and the kids in the van and the Reuters reporter.

00:01:52.000 Right.

00:01:54.000 Well, what do you want?

00:01:55.000 You want me to talk about my assessment of it, or do you want to talk about your assessment of it?

00:01:59.000 Your assessment of it.

00:02:00.000 Well, first off, I think that the fact that there was a FOIA in on that video by Reuters, and the Army had resisted releasing it, that was indicative, I think, of what was on the video.

00:02:13.000 I don't think people really want to have it out there.

00:02:15.000 As I understand it now, the video's been confirmed as authentic.

00:02:18.000 And that's the second problem with it.

00:02:20.000 I think that it's not so much a problem that the Weekly Leaks folks got it.

00:02:24.000 I think it's a fact that the Army didn't stand up at the time this happened and said, hey, some mistakes were made here.

00:02:29.000 And let me be clear on why I'm saying that.

00:02:31.000 And I'm going to say this clearly as an academic, not as an Army Reserve officer.

00:02:35.000 I'm saying this clearly as an academic.

00:02:37.000 There are, from my background and experience from having been in combat, My understanding of the rules of warfare, especially in this case, the ROE, the specific rules of engagement for this specific period, which I understand are essentially the ones you can find on the internet.

00:02:55.000 The 2006 rules of engagement are still valid for the most part, and this incident occurred in 2007.

00:03:01.000 Based on those two factors plus the video, what is seen on the video, there are two clear rules of engagement violations That I can see.

00:03:11.000 First, the first clear violation comes right after the attack begins.

00:03:18.000 And I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to the Apache drivers here. 1.00

00:03:21.000 I mean Alex, there's a lot of things going on and I've been told by both former Bush White House executives and folks who were in Iraq.

00:03:30.000 There are things happening before and after that video regarding combat operations.

00:03:34.000 Essentially the fog of warfare, the heat of battle, whatever you want to call it.

00:03:38.000 Yeah, later in the full video they do find some guys with guns going in a building and they fire a Hellfire missile into it.

00:03:45.000 Well, and I've got to say, I've not seen that part of the video, but I'm just trying to make sure that people understand that there were things going on before and after this video.

00:03:53.000 So there was essentially an adrenaline rush going on, and I think everybody who was there on the scene.

00:03:59.000 So you can't discount that I've been there.

00:04:01.000 I understand the fact that you get so focused on what's going on.

00:04:04.000 It's hard to take a step back and look hard at what's going on.

00:04:08.000 So giving the benefit of the doubt, Alex, to the Apache drivers, They misidentified the Reuters journalists with their cameras.

00:04:17.000 So that's the first mistake, and I think that's forgivable by the fact that it was the heat of battle.

00:04:23.000 All right, Colonel Schaefer, we got a break.

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00:06:22.000 Well, a lot of the footage is comparable to video games.

00:06:27.000 But this isn't a video game.

00:06:28.000 This is life and death.

00:06:29.000 And some said, well, hey, these people were in a war zone, these Reuters reporters, this van full of kids.

00:06:36.000 You know, that's their problem.

00:06:38.000 But the war zone is a urban built-up area in a major city in Iraq.

00:06:44.000 And the Pentagon blocked this being released, and this is the type of stuff that happens in war, in modern war.

00:06:50.000 So then you have to ask, is this then a just war?

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00:06:59.000 We know they lied about WMDs and everything else, but Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer, goes by Tony Schaefer, is our guest.

00:07:06.000 Very nice to be joining us.

00:07:07.000 You got cut off by the break.

00:07:09.000 This is a short segment as well.

00:07:11.000 Continue with the points you were making.

00:07:14.000 I agree with your point on the whole justification of the war thing, Alex.

00:07:17.000 You and I have talked about it a little bit.

00:07:19.000 I think, frankly, you and I have talked about this, and I'll say it for the benefit of your listeners.

00:07:24.000 I think there's other ways we could have taken care of Iraq without a full-blown invasion. 0.81

00:07:28.000 With that said, though, I think that's a topic for another day.

00:07:31.000 Back to this specific video, giving the benefit of the doubt to the Apache drivers in the heat of the moment, I think there could have been justification regarding the misidentification of the bags as either weapons or RPGs, maybe.

00:07:46.000 I'm pretty dubious, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt.

00:07:48.000 The mistakes I saw, which were the clear violations, Alex, were first off, right after they got clearance to fire.

00:07:54.000 Once they fired, they should have essentially stopped then and paused and tried to figure out what was going on.

00:08:00.000 And one of the things, one of the clear rules that were broken is it says once someone is down, you quit shooting.

00:08:06.000 They didn't quit shooting, they made sure these guys were dead. 1.00

00:08:09.000 Now as an intelligence officer, I said this on the air, that's stupid. 1.00

00:08:12.000 As an intelligence officer, you want to capture people to find out what their affiliation is, why they were doing what they were doing. 0.99

00:08:17.000 Clearly, this was not good common sense.

00:08:19.000 This is not something... and frankly, if I were the commander and I saw this on the battlefield, I would have stopped those soldiers right there and either... and done something, because that's not the way you should conduct yourself.

00:08:29.000 Now, let's fast forward to the ban.

00:08:30.000 And this is something I think has become a very big point of contention, which I frankly think is a huge mistake both for the PR war and another clear violation of the rules of engagement.

00:08:41.000 When the Reuters reporter was on the ground crawling away, they were waiting, they were trying to egg him on, hoping he'd pick up a weapon.

00:08:48.000 As I said before, once a person's down, you're obligated to go in there and render aid and try to capture them and find out what's going on.

00:08:55.000 When the van shows up to give him aid, and Alex, I've watched the video at least three times to make sure I understood it correctly.

00:09:03.000 First off, if you look at the video carefully, you see people are in the van, and there is no indication from the van at any point in time that it was a threat.

00:09:13.000 And this is where it clearly states that you have to have a clearly defined threat before you fire and use deadly force.

00:09:20.000 In this case, it was very clear there was no threat from that van.

00:09:24.000 That van was there to render aid for that individual.

00:09:27.000 Now, there's reports out on this.

00:09:28.000 I'm not sure if you found copies yet or not.

00:09:30.000 I've been able to read the reports.

00:09:31.000 I don't have a copy of them.

00:09:32.000 Something called AR-15-6, Army Regulation 15-6 Investigative Reports, which are essentially a fact-finding investigation directed by the commander to go through and assess what happened.

00:09:44.000 Within the reports relating to this incident, It talks about the fact that there were vehicles out that day, four-door sedans, running weapons to insurgents.

00:09:53.000 Well, it's very clear from the video that that was not a four-door sedan.

00:09:56.000 It was fired on.

00:09:57.000 So, apparently in the investigation, they tried to say, well, we misidentified the van.

00:10:02.000 I don't think that's possible.

00:10:04.000 I think the ban is very clearly identified as a ban, not as a four-door sedan.

00:10:07.000 So, in my professional judgment, both on my experience in Afghanistan, having been in urban warfare, having to make no-shoot decisions, And on the rules of engagement, the two clear violations were continuing to fire once the individuals were down.

00:10:23.000 And of course, firing on the van when there was no hostile threat indicated, as a matter of fact, it was the contrary.

00:10:28.000 It indicated, for the most part, that those people were trying to render aid to that individual.

00:10:33.000 Which, again, as an intelligence officer, they could have monitored that van, they could have followed it, and as you see in the video, U.S.

00:10:40.000 forces show up within minutes of the incident to secure the area.

00:10:44.000 Colonel Schaefer, stay there.

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00:15:03.000 Look, Colonel, they can say that this is the rules of war.

00:15:08.000 People get killed.

00:15:09.000 It's a war zone.

00:15:11.000 You talk about adrenaline.

00:15:12.000 It's something more than that.

00:15:14.000 Because I've seen old gun pod footage of fighter pilots in Vietnam.

00:15:18.000 They weren't giggling and snickering and this bloodlust.

00:15:22.000 And we see footage of some of the troops.

00:15:24.000 It's a minority getting off on shooting dogs or throwing dogs off cliffs.

00:15:29.000 They've two, three, four tours.

00:15:31.000 Something the military has never been forced to do. 0.51

00:15:33.000 You know, some of these guys are coming back and are completely bonkers.

00:15:36.000 But I think for the average citizen to see these gun pod footage shows them what is an everyday, you know, thing going on out there.

00:15:45.000 And the way people are now disconnected from what soldiers for thousands of years have faced, killing their enemy right up, looking them in the eyes.

00:15:53.000 And we see the ground troops show up and they show empathy for the children that are in the minivan that's been shot to hell.

00:16:00.000 And then you hear the helicopter pilot and the gunner say, I shouldn't be in a war zone.

00:16:04.000 And she's not going to be So we see not just the people on the ground being dehumanized, but we see the people in the helicopters being dehumanized.

00:16:13.000 Well, I agree with you, and this is one of those things where, again, if I were the commander and I witnessed that, those soldiers would have been relieved on the spot because, like I said, that is exactly the point.

00:16:23.000 All combat, especially the people I've been in combat with, do not conduct themselves in that manner.

00:16:29.000 Anytime you have to take a life, you need to be reverent in the fact that you are doing it.

00:16:35.000 And, as you mentioned in my book, The Dark Side of the Force is coming out later this year, last day of August.

00:16:42.000 And, you know, one of the first incidents in that book I talk about, my first combat convoy, I have to make a choice about shooting or not shooting an eight-year-old kid who throws a Sun Juice empty box in front of the vehicle in front of me.

00:16:57.000 And I would have been right to shoot the kid by the rules of engagement, but I didn't.

00:17:02.000 And this is one of those things that was a win-win for the Taliban. 0.99

00:17:04.000 If I shot the kid, that's good because, you know, we shot a kid and that's a score for them. 0.92

00:17:09.000 And if I didn't shoot him, that makes me less likely to shoot a kid next time if he does have a bomb in his hand. 0.95

00:17:15.000 So this is the nature of modern warfare. 0.77

00:17:17.000 It's one of those things where there's no right answers, but if you pick the right If you pick the wrong answer, it's going to be hurtful no matter what.

00:17:24.000 And let's not kid ourselves.

00:17:26.000 This is a war of images.

00:17:28.000 A war of information.

00:17:30.000 And you know, you have InfoWars.com.

00:17:32.000 That is a brilliant way of displaying information relating to what is really going on.

00:17:36.000 This is one of those things, Alex, we have to be better than the adversary.

00:17:40.000 If you recall, the Taliban came out with a 29-point code of conduct last year done by al-Baghdadar, who was actually wrapped up recently because he became too pro-negotiating for his own good with the Pakistanis.

00:17:56.000 We will never see the Taliban actually execute their operations in conjunction with that 69 point code of conduct.

00:18:05.000 This is where we're better than they are.

00:18:06.000 And frankly, this is one of the points I'd like to say.

00:18:09.000 I'm not speaking for the Army, but the Army and the DOD is actually going to relook this now because it's the right thing to do.

00:18:15.000 We need to look at the circumstance of why was it the soldiers were so apt to shoot that day?

00:18:20.000 Clearly, it's not only a training issue, it's a psychological issue.

00:18:24.000 And let's not forget, Alex, that we have record number of suicides from post-traumatic stress.

00:18:30.000 I think this is why you're seeing such a great number of post-traumatic stress issues.

00:18:34.000 Because people are not doing the right thing, necessarily.

00:18:37.000 Commanders are obligated to train and equip their soldiers to win.

00:18:42.000 But then also, they're responsible for holding them back.

00:18:44.000 Because, as you point out, Through our history, we have been better than this.

00:18:49.000 We're obligated to try to pull people back.

00:18:51.000 We also had Vietnam.

00:18:52.000 We had the Malay Massacre. 0.97

00:18:55.000 So we have had a record of people going off the reservation.

00:18:59.000 I'd like to believe that's an exception, but we've got to be better about the way we conduct modern warfare because things like this do matter, and it shapes the Al-Qaeda battle space.

00:19:07.000 This video will help Al-Qaeda recruit, and we both know that. 0.82

00:19:12.000 Okay, let's expand on this though.

00:19:14.000 Take a movie like Apocalypse Now with Colonel Kurtz, who's gone completely insane, and so the military sends out a special operator to kill him. 0.97

00:19:27.000 But now I read John Yoo memos, I read Alberto Gonzalez memos, guys that have never been in the military, never been in combat, and they're saying we can crush children's genitals, we can torture children. 0.92

00:19:37.000 The military's given this.

00:19:39.000 The Pentagon hires jail guards and people who've been fired from federal jails for abuse. 0.91

00:19:46.000 General Togumbo's own report says raping children, raping people with acid. 0.85

00:19:51.000 I mean, this is in the Army report. 0.96

00:19:52.000 Far worse than those images.

00:19:54.000 Why on earth would the Pentagon accept directives from the Bush White House knowing that once this was implemented, this would absolutely destroy morale and turn us into the Nazis in the eyes of the world?

00:20:10.000 Well, I think that's the answer.

00:20:13.000 The answer to your question is within your question.

00:20:16.000 I think a lot of those policies were established for retribution more than actual intelligence collection.

00:20:20.000 The Army put out a policy a few years ago saying we will follow a very strict regimen of Basically, techniques, non-intrusive, non-violent techniques to break people.

00:20:32.000 Again, I cited in my book, there's two chapters about an FBI special agent and I working to interrogate and break.

00:20:40.000 I mean, we didn't touch him once, but within three days we were able to break him.

00:20:44.000 By use of really good investigative and interrogation techniques.

00:20:49.000 And I think, based on my experience, you can get people to talk.

00:20:53.000 You don't have to touch them.

00:20:54.000 You don't have to torture them.

00:20:56.000 But a lot of times, as you know, their mind becomes their own worst enemy because of the imagery of their own fears.

00:21:04.000 You can touch on people's fears without touching them.

00:21:06.000 And that's the idea here.

00:21:07.000 We need to be better and more instructive in how we have people do that.

00:21:12.000 Take Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

00:21:13.000 He confessed after 100 plus water boardings.

00:21:16.000 They finally threatened his family.

00:21:17.000 They finally said something bad is going to happen to your kids and wife if you don't.

00:21:21.000 He confessed to bombing buildings that weren't built until four years after he was arrested.

00:21:26.000 He almost confessed to sinking the Titanic or killing Kennedy. 0.94

00:21:30.000 I mean this is ridiculous.

00:21:33.000 Well, I think this brings up an excellent problem for the prosecutions we're now going to face for the 9-11 terrorists. 0.56

00:21:39.000 I mean, I'm sorry, the detainees at Guantanamo Bay.

00:21:42.000 Which is similar to anybody who has something to do with 9-11 regarding the techniques you just mentioned.

00:21:48.000 Anytime you torture someone, Alex, the fact is this.

00:21:51.000 They're going to tell you whatever you want to know to make the pain stop.

00:21:55.000 And that's been proven over and over again.

00:21:57.000 So again, it's one of those things where I think there are some other very vast techniques.

00:22:01.000 One of the 9-11 conspirators were broken by very complex techniques relating to the fact that he was a pedophile.

00:22:10.000 So, in this one instance, they used the idea that his personal conduct Was directly in contrast and contradiction to his personal beliefs relating to Allah and his faith.

00:22:22.000 So enough of hitting him on that, not hitting him literally, but hitting him with the idea of the disconnect between his personal conduct and his personal beliefs is what broke him eventually.

00:22:33.000 And this is the idea.

00:22:34.000 You need to get inside these people's heads, these individuals' heads, and break them without touching them.

00:22:39.000 So, when you look at the interrogation program, I personally turned down a seat in that program.

00:22:46.000 I talk about that a little bit in my book, about being given a tour of one of the secret prisons and then saying, you know, being asked, what do you think?

00:22:53.000 It's like, look, I basically said just to read ahead in the book here, I want nothing to do with this.

00:22:58.000 And, frankly, that's the problem.

00:23:01.000 I think when you have A policy set up by an administration, Alex, the Army or the military is obligated to follow it.

00:23:08.000 And that's one of those things where you have lawyers, hopefully lawyers who are smart enough to understand that you can't arbitrarily decide to start breaking U.S.

00:23:15.000 laws.

00:23:15.000 And I frankly read the memos done by the Bush White House lawyers as being illegal, approving illegal activities.

00:23:23.000 Which, frankly, you know, we as soldiers are obligated to try to resist illegal orders.

00:23:30.000 And you were told that in your training.

00:23:32.000 It is your obligation to not follow illegal orders.

00:23:35.000 It becomes a very fine line between following orders which are given by lawful authority, which we're trained to do, or trying to find a way to not follow or disabuse yourself of illegal orders.

00:23:48.000 Well, I mean, you just talked about it being illegal, and clearly it is illegal on the face of it, and immoral.

00:23:54.000 But now we have Obama continuing snatch and grab, more black sites have been exposed all over Europe and Asia.

00:24:01.000 We know this is intensifying, not subsiding, and so I guess they got away with it, so now it's secret policy in the CIA.

00:24:09.000 Speaking as an academic, every administration who comes in tends to take on the tools which the previous administration used and were successful in using.

00:24:17.000 So frankly, you know, I don't believe there's going to be any great difference between the Bush White House and the Obama administration on a number of these policy issues.

00:24:26.000 And let's cite, for example, Alex, the Kill Capture program.

00:24:30.000 I've said on Fox News a couple different times recently that the Obama administration's been, their default position is killing people. 0.99

00:24:37.000 And that's something I find totally idiotic as an intelligence officer. 0.98

00:24:42.000 The idea is you need to capture people and find out what they know. 0.95

00:24:45.000 So because they don't want to deal with the issues relating to what do we do with detainees?

00:24:50.000 Do we put them on trial in a civilian court?

00:24:53.000 Do we do military tribunals?

00:24:54.000 Because they don't want to deal with that, now the default position is killing people, which you've read about recently with the issue of Al-Awlaki.

00:25:01.000 Apparently, according to the news reports over the past two weeks, there is now essentially a death warrant been issued for him to be killed, if possible, by U.S.

00:25:10.000 or Yemeni forces on site.

00:25:12.000 So this is something, clearly, that I think we should be defaulting.

00:25:17.000 Our default position should be capturing these individuals.

00:25:20.000 And if we really can't, then I think we need to look at it.

00:25:22.000 But we should be capturing them.

00:25:25.000 And frankly, the other problem with this is that, in the extremist belief, Alex, Being a martyr is a great thing.

00:25:32.000 I think we need to avoid giving them that opportunity to be a martyr.

00:25:35.000 This includes Al-Awlaki and this includes Bin Laden, if he's still alive. 0.62

00:25:40.000 Well, Osama Bin Laden, let's cut right to the chase. 0.97

00:25:43.000 He trained in the 80s, worked with the CIA.

00:25:47.000 We know the Muslim brigades have been used to destabilize countries the West doesn't like. 1.00

00:25:51.000 They were used against the Soviets, they're being used against the Russians.

00:25:54.000 Today, it's a convenient boogeyman out there.

00:25:59.000 We know the underwear bomber was allowed on the plane, protected, given a visa by the U.S., an unnamed intelligence agency told the State Department this.

00:26:07.000 This is on record.

00:26:08.000 And then we get the internal Homeland Security documents.

00:26:10.000 Most of Homeland Security now and NORTHCOM is set up for the American people, returning veterans, gun owners, conservatives.

00:26:17.000 Law enforcement gave us those documents last year.

00:26:19.000 They were confirmed to be accurate.

00:26:21.000 And the Pentagon was hopping mad.

00:26:23.000 And so was Homeland Security that we got them.

00:26:26.000 But when we really look at this, This is a system that's been set up for the American people.

00:26:31.000 And, you know, you're in Ireland right now.

00:26:33.000 You said Northern Ireland leaders condemn bombing.

00:26:36.000 I've got the New York Times article.

00:26:37.000 I had Agent Steakknife on before they killed him a few years ago.

00:26:41.000 You know, British Special Forces, Special Air Services assigned to this.

00:26:47.000 And he said that the IRA was run by British intelligence as a pretext to radicalize things as an excuse to be in Ireland, especially Northern Ireland.

00:26:57.000 I mean, come on.

00:26:58.000 We know the Russians have staged terror. 1.00

00:27:01.000 We know our own government has Operation Northwoods.

00:27:03.000 What can you say about government actually being behind some of the terrorism in history?

00:27:10.000 Well, Alex, I've got to stick with what I know to be the fact.

00:27:13.000 I mean, some of these references you've mentioned I have not read.

00:27:18.000 I can't speak to things I don't know.

00:27:19.000 Do you know about Northwoods?

00:27:21.000 Well, I don't know much about that.

00:27:23.000 I've not studied that.

00:27:24.000 But what I will say is that there's clearly, as of late, a tendency to start looking at internal threats more than external.

00:27:32.000 Now, I cut my teeth as a lieutenant doing counterterrorism stuff in Germany back in the mid-80s.

00:27:39.000 And it was very clear then, and I'm not sure what changed between then and now.

00:27:42.000 In many aspects, but I know back then we were very much concerned about the Soviets funding radical groups within Germany.

00:27:49.000 As a matter of fact, my first counter-terrorism operations were focused on the RAF sports group Hoffman and things like that.

00:27:56.000 Whereas very clearly a third party, a third organization being the Soviet Union, was funding a lot of that activity.

00:28:03.000 As noted by the fact that once the Cold War ended, a lot of these groups faded off into the distance and never came back.

00:28:08.000 I think that we have to be very cognizant of the fact that there is some real energy being given now to our government looking internally.

00:28:17.000 And I think in some cases it is not warranted by the fact that yes, you're going to have veterans coming back who have clear psychological problems.

00:28:24.000 But the way to deal with that is by giving them the treatment they need, not treating them as adversaries.

00:28:29.000 I think that's one of the things that has been trending lately is to look at people who have come back and have problems as an internal enemy.

00:28:36.000 More than that, what are your Pentagon associates saying about the fact that, as you admit, more of this is being swung around internally From my research, I mean, here's an example.

00:28:46.000 It came out in the Baltimore Sun that Ron Paul and myself and others, and we ended up getting the secret army document, which they confirmed was real, so those good guys in the military sent it to us.

00:28:55.000 that when I go out and have an in the Fed rally, they've got military army intelligence watching me and it says in the memo, don't let them know you're with the army, they may be terrorists and may kill you.

00:29:07.000 So they're teaching the army that I'm like some vampire that's going to try to tear their throat out?

00:29:12.000 There's a number of legal problems with that.

00:29:14.000 One of the things I came up against during Naval Danger, which was the issue of posse comitatus.

00:29:18.000 And I think it's a very good law for a number of reasons.

00:29:21.000 First off, as you just mentioned, it is illegal for the Army to be augmenting directly civil law enforcement operations.

00:29:29.000 That is clearly illegal.

00:29:30.000 So that's one of those things that I know people like Senator Arlen Specter were very much against the idea of allowing folks to be used for purposes of law enforcement, and there's good reasons for it.

00:29:41.000 And this is something that harkens back to the 1960s, where it was equally a bad idea then to use military intelligence folks for civil law enforcement, and I think it's the same thing now, if this is going on.

00:29:51.000 Now, I don't know of anyone within my circle of associates and friends who have been involved in that.

00:29:57.000 It's not to say I don't know what's happening.

00:29:59.000 I personally don't know.

00:30:00.000 I've not been involved.

00:30:01.000 I don't know of anyone of my intelligence friends who have been involved.

00:30:04.000 But I know there's been contingency planning done to look at how the military could be brought in to support civil unrest, support the civil authorities during times of civil unrest.

00:30:15.000 Now, that's something that I know has been kicked around a lot over the past 30 years, frankly.

00:30:20.000 The idea of coming in at a time of crisis to actually... Rex 84.

00:30:23.000 Well, let me ask you this.

00:30:25.000 I mean, I literally, in the last 10 years, have had guys get out, they're obviously military in plain clothes, and even threaten me in parking lots.

00:30:34.000 I have national news everywhere saying I'm calling for violence when I'm not.

00:30:37.000 Does it sound to you, Colonel, like they're trying to set me up for something?

00:30:42.000 Well, it sounds like any other whisper campaign.

00:30:44.000 I mean, Alex, as you know, I was victimized by a whisper campaign by the Pentagon as well when I first broke ranks.

00:30:50.000 I think there's something else that you need to look at here regarding the fact that when, you know, there's something called CEPA.

00:30:56.000 Are you familiar with CEPA?

00:30:57.000 The counterintelligence force?

00:31:00.000 Everything that I've heard about that was, and I hate to use this as a term, but it was like Darth Vader's Vanguard.

00:31:06.000 By the fact that those people were, they had no interest in counterintelligence.

00:31:10.000 They were essentially, as I understand it, Steve Cambone's Dirty Tricks folks.

00:31:15.000 And they, in one case, they were surveilling a Secret Service special agent whose father was speaking out against the Bush administration.

00:31:25.000 I mean, no, I have no doubt that this sort of thing has happened.

00:31:27.000 So is this just harassment then?

00:31:29.000 Because, I mean, it's like a no way out when he's walking along, and who are these guys?

00:31:34.000 Well, they're formerly associated with special forces, and I'm just like a regular guy with a family who has a big talk show, but I mean, it's getting really creepy.

00:31:42.000 And that's one of those things I think that this is why I spoke out against the use of blackwater contractors as some form of mercenary.

00:31:52.000 And this is where there's been a real gray area, Alec, that we have to look at by the fact that I think that there's some real Uh, loopholes that have been used by the military and by the intelligence organizations to hire folks who serve in these roles.

00:32:06.000 It's a very murky gray area.

00:32:08.000 And for example, in Afghanistan, the CIA, Babatel recently denied it.

00:32:12.000 I was there to handle two of the KIAs from CIA who were there as Blackwater back in 2003. 0.59

00:32:18.000 So there's, this is a loophole that a number of organizations have used to hire people off the street who have military background to do things which I think If they were shown to be, in the light of day, they would be shown to be illegal.

00:32:31.000 And this is where people have tried to get around posse comitatus, ways of trying to influence the thinking of adversaries.

00:32:37.000 You know, and frankly, some people just don't appreciate people like you and others who speak out.

00:32:42.000 And I think that's... But Colonel, now we're learning...

00:32:44.000 Well, now we're learning the adversaries are somebody like you or me who just speak out for the Constitution and Bill of Rights as some type of Darth Vader Praetorian Guard.

00:32:53.000 And I know a lot of JAG officers who are retired law professors we've had on.

00:32:58.000 They're very, very concerned, you know, Atticott from San Antonio and others, but I mean, It's just for the general public out there, I don't think they realize that this whole black op or slash contractor, they may be contractors, are just out there really intimidating people, surveilling people.

00:33:15.000 We've only got a few minutes left.

00:33:16.000 I can't wait till August to have you on to really, really go over the book in detail and I hope people will order it because I know I'm going to read it and it's going to be extremely informative, Colonel Schaefer, but in closing, Shifting gears out to what happened in Poland.

00:33:28.000 Do you think it's suspicious that the almost entire leadership of the Polish government's aircraft went down?

00:33:36.000 Well, I get it.

00:33:37.000 There's two parts to it.

00:33:38.000 First, you know, it's like the old, whenever someone had a cold in Soviet leadership, you know, that was a bad sign.

00:33:45.000 I think, you know, a cold is not a cold when it comes to Soviets.

00:33:49.000 This may be something that people need to look at as well.

00:33:52.000 From what I understand, the Polish president was very independent, and I think that the fact that everybody went down together in these questionable circumstances, you've got to look at that very hard.

00:34:06.000 The Tupelov, which crashed, frankly, has a horrible, horrible record.

00:34:11.000 When I flew back from Afghanistan, I flew through Tashkent, and the airline that I was supposed to fly back on flew a lot of those.

00:34:18.000 Fortunately for me, they had pretty much grounded all the Tupelovs, and were now using Boeing aircraft.

00:34:23.000 So that aircraft by itself has had a hugely poor safety record. 0.98

00:34:27.000 But it is stupid to put that much leadership in one aircraft. 0.96

00:34:30.000 Well, you never do it. 0.99

00:34:31.000 I mean, I think that's a mistake that you just shouldn't make.

00:34:35.000 That's an amateur mistake, Alex.

00:34:36.000 You should never make that mistake.

00:34:38.000 Especially when you have basically the entire military general staff, pretty much every major officer within the government and the civilian side.

00:34:47.000 You've got to ask yourself, why would they do that?

00:34:49.000 Especially with an aircraft, as I mentioned, with that kind of poor safety record.

00:34:53.000 Colonel, we've only got one minute left.

00:34:55.000 You wanted to make a comment on the bombing in Ireland.

00:34:57.000 What's your take on that?

00:34:58.000 Well, you know, I think it's, frankly, from what I've seen from being here just a little bit of time, is that there's still a great deal of dissension within Northern Ireland.

00:35:08.000 I think there's some chaos there.

00:35:09.000 I think that as things settle in, you're going to see a few things like this.

00:35:13.000 But I think the good news is, if there's any good news, is the fact that I think things have been reduced.

00:35:17.000 You don't have these mass bombings.

00:35:19.000 If nothing else, there was no casualties in this.

00:35:22.000 I think it was meant to send a message.

00:35:23.000 So, at least here, I believe, I think they're on a downhill run of Terrorism being an effective tool. 0.52

00:35:29.000 I'm hoping that people understand that, you know, that things here are pretty much settled, I think.

00:35:34.000 But in other places, they're not.

00:35:36.000 I think that, you know, anytime we look at terrorism, we have to look realistically at long-term threats.

00:35:41.000 Another thing that I'd like to bring up briefly, we can talk about another time, is Al-Qaeda.

00:35:44.000 President Obama made a statement which I think is very accurate about Al-Qaeda. 1.00

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00:38:56.000 Colonel Tony Schaefer has been really nice giving us his time.

00:39:04.000 He's on vacation in Ireland.

00:39:06.000 We're letting him go here just a few minutes, but putting bookends on this.

00:39:10.000 Get into your Al-Qaeda point, but what is Al-Qaeda?

00:39:13.000 We know it's a Brzezinski computer file of the CIA in 1979.

00:39:19.000 We know it's a term used to try to simplistically label, I guess, Wahhabist sects out of Saudi Arabia.

00:39:26.000 We know those do exist.

00:39:27.000 We know there's different factions in Saudi Arabia and Princeton, where you've got different princes fighting with each other.

00:39:35.000 So we know there's a lot of different groups and organizations, but it just came out last week in federal documents that one of the ringleaders of the Mumbai attack was a, quote, U.S.

00:39:44.000 government agent and helped lead the attack.

00:39:47.000 And so I keep going back to that over and over again.

00:39:51.000 I mean, what is al-Qaeda today?

00:39:55.000 Well, I think we have to look at this realistically because if the intelligence community is doing its job, Alex, they're going to have people who will hopefully have access to the organization.

00:40:05.000 The problem is, and this is what's happened with Cap Chapman, I think a lot of the CIA's activities lately have been focused on wishful thinking.

00:40:14.000 I think they recruit people thinking they're going to work for the U.S.

00:40:17.000 and they're true believers.

00:40:19.000 There's really no level of Of benefit you can give them to make them walk away from what they believe.

00:40:26.000 So I think that's what we're seeing here.

00:40:27.000 You're saying double, double and triple agents?

00:40:29.000 Yes.

00:40:30.000 Absolutely.

00:40:31.000 Absolutely.

00:40:32.000 I think that's what we're seeing here where I think it's almost a policy of wishful thinking hoping these guys will really come over and support us.

00:40:39.000 And then they get triple-crossed back, essentially.

00:40:41.000 Peter Lance did a great book on this called Triple Cross, where it talks about Ali Mohammed.

00:40:45.000 That very thing happened there, where the guy was doubled and tripled back against us.

00:40:50.000 And I think that's what we're seeing here a lot of.

00:40:52.000 And we're not being smart as we should to detect when they've been double-crossed.

00:40:55.000 Well, the Arabs are running short on time. 1.00

00:40:57.000 A few months ago, that CIA base in Central Asia getting blown up, was that a double-cross?

00:41:03.000 Oh, a triple-cross, absolutely.

00:41:04.000 That guy never left his true belief in al-Qaeda.

00:41:07.000 And that's why those people died.

00:41:09.000 So what is Al-Qaeda?

00:41:12.000 Well, I think Al-Qaeda is essentially a franchise of terrorism that the radicals within the Muslim community have been able to use to sustain themselves and try and tie together. 0.83

00:41:22.000 I think, for example, al-Awlaki is really the primary operational leader right now.

00:41:27.000 He's the one who's actually able to plan things.

00:41:29.000 So I think that he is realistically kind of the lead guy right now in Al-Qaeda.

00:41:33.000 I think that's why the focus is so heavy on him.

00:41:35.000 He's been able to pick up his franchise and do a lot with it.

00:41:39.000 What about Obama saying he's worried about Al Qaeda getting nukes? 0.80

00:41:42.000 I mean, that sounds as ridiculous as saying Saddam Hussein had nukes.

00:41:46.000 Well, I can tell you that there's a great deal of effort going on to look at this issue realistically right now, Alex.

00:41:50.000 I think that there's a good potential that that's where they want to go for their next big attack.

00:41:56.000 And I don't think they've let down.

00:41:57.000 So I know this may be hard for you and your listeners to accept.

00:42:01.000 I believe that they are going in that direction.

00:42:03.000 I believe that's where they're going next.

00:42:07.000 Could the Russians, like Alexander Leavitt say, actually sell nukes?

00:42:11.000 I believe there's people within the infrastructure who'd be willing to sell the nuclear weapon based on personal gain.

00:42:16.000 Yeah, I do believe that.

00:42:19.000 So that's something to be cognizant of.

00:42:21.000 I'm not saying it would happen.

00:42:22.000 I think that that's something we need to be realistically looking at.

00:42:24.000 Well, you're going to be able to talk about a lot more of this coming up in August when the book The Dark Side of the Force comes out.

00:42:31.000 We look forward to speaking to you then.

00:42:33.000 Thanks for the time.

00:42:34.000 Thank you.

00:42:35.000 All right.

00:42:35.000 There goes Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer.

00:42:38.000 Very interesting interview.

00:42:39.000 Very interesting individual joining us from Ireland.

00:42:44.000 OK, here's the deal.

00:42:46.000 We got Jim Tucker coming up for 30 minutes in the next hour, and then I want to do a video game review, because more and more of these video games have a pro-New World Order or anti-New World Order message, and video games in many cases are bigger than the biggest Hollywood films.

00:43:01.000 Some of these video game franchises have made over a billion bucks in the last two years.

00:43:05.000 Things like Call of Duty, Modern Warfare, things like that.

00:43:11.000 There's an InfoWars.com review of Half-Life 2 that's been out for a few years.

00:43:16.000 But in this video game, they have DARPA control towers that mesmerize the public and people are microchipped.

00:43:23.000 All of this is what is actually being promoted.

00:43:26.000 I mean, that's mainstream information.

00:43:28.000 You tell somebody, hey, the government can put up mine control towers.

00:43:31.000 Well, DARPA has been talking about that in newspapers.

00:43:34.000 I mean, they're openly talking about drugging the water supply on Fox News to make us We're passive.

00:43:40.000 It's already going on.

00:43:41.000 That's why we are so passive.

00:43:43.000 The most aggressive, rebellious people ever in the history of the world, maybe some of the Greeks were more aggressive, but definitely some of the most aggressive people ever, will suddenly put up with anything. 0.99

00:43:53.000 Because your food, your water, and other things are being spiked.

00:43:56.000 It doesn't matter if you're Colonel Schaeffer, or a cop down the street, or Alex Jones, we're all under attack by this.

00:44:04.000 And he wasn't even shocked by the fact that I talk about the Pentagon following us around.

00:44:09.000 And going to end the Fed rallies, and then when I go to a Bilderberg meeting, I'm at my hotel five miles away, and the Feds waddle in and say, Jones, let's attack the State Department tonight together.

00:44:20.000 I mean, the Feds know full well I'm not going to attack the State Department.

00:44:23.000 They know full well I'm not going to attack the police.

00:44:26.000 They know full well I'm trying to keep people from getting violent here, and that's what's making them mad, and that's why multiple major publications per day are lying and saying I'm calling for violence.

00:44:40.000 And I'm going to get to that in a moment after we take some more of your phone calls.

00:44:45.000 It's just driving me crazy to see this happening.

00:44:49.000 They changed my computer around where my IMs are under a different icon.

00:44:55.000 So I can see the call list.

00:44:56.000 How do I pull that up?

00:44:58.000 Somehow that got minimized in here because I won't be able to pull it up in there.

00:45:03.000 I need to be able to pull it up here.

00:45:05.000 Okay, good.

00:45:06.000 You're in control of my computer.

00:45:07.000 That's good.

00:45:09.000 Okay, fresh list here.

00:45:10.000 John Wyoming, Tom, Jim, Jimmy, Ryan, and others.

00:45:13.000 Let's race through your calls.

00:45:15.000 Let's talk to John in Wyoming.

00:45:17.000 You're on the air, John.

00:45:19.000 Yeah, Alex.

00:45:20.000 Welcome.

00:45:20.000 Can you hear me?

00:45:21.000 Yes, sir.

00:45:21.000 Alex?

00:45:22.000 Okay.

00:45:23.000 A couple of years ago, I saw a great documentary on TV about post-World War II Europe.

00:45:29.000 And Poland's leader at the time was a very patriotic man, just as this man who died the other day.

00:45:36.000 And he was vehemently opposed to the Allies turning over Poland as well as all of Eastern Europe to Joseph Stalin after the end of the war.

00:45:44.000 And mysteriously one day he got aboard his plane, which had been tampered with not by the Russians but by the Allies, and it crashed on the island of Malta, killing this man.

00:45:55.000 It's now been declassified, uh, that, um, That our own government killed Patton because he didn't want to hand stuff over to the commies.

00:46:05.000 And that's what Jesse Ventura was talking about from Fletcher Prouty, the head of Black Ops, in the book The Secret Team, that our government made a deal with the Soviets to divide up the world and have third world intractable wars to build up their own power bases.

00:46:20.000 It's all staged.

00:46:21.000 Now, there does appear to be a real split now between Russia and the Anglo-American establishment.

00:46:26.000 You heard Schaefer allude to the Russians killing them, and they had reasons to kill them.

00:46:31.000 But recently, the Kaczynski president and his twin, who's in the government, had been prime minister.

00:46:41.000 They have come out, for those who just joined us, I covered it earlier, and said, we're not going along with the European Union.

00:46:49.000 We may get out of it.

00:46:50.000 In fact, here's the headline, New York Times, Kaczynski often at a source of tension with the EU.

00:46:56.000 And see, Iceland has said no to the takeover.

00:47:00.000 Greece is going along with it, only partially.

00:47:02.000 But if Poland says no to the banks taking them over and looting them, and this program of austerity, the whole European Union could implode.

00:47:11.000 And that's not Alex Jones saying that, that's George Soros.

00:47:14.000 So, this is leaning towards it being a blackout by NATO.

00:47:19.000 But it could be the Russians as well, or it could be natural.

00:47:21.000 Go ahead.

00:47:22.000 Well, I think that our people did him in much as they did the Polish leader in in 1945, who wasn't going to go along with that giveaway of Poland and all of Eastern Europe to Joseph Stalin.

00:47:34.000 I mean, we spent 150,000 American lives No, I remember reading about that.

00:47:39.000 Adolf Hitler, and then we turn around and give them to Joseph Stalin, that's like trading in syphilis for gonorrhea. 0.90

00:47:45.000 I mean, either way, you lose, because they were both brutal dictators. 0.98

00:47:49.000 They were both mass murderers.

00:47:51.000 And this man wasn't going along with it.

00:47:53.000 And so they made sure his plane crashed into the island of Malta so he wouldn't be around to oppose this takeover by Stalin. 0.79

00:48:01.000 And I remember reading about that.

00:48:02.000 Anything else, John?

00:48:03.000 No, sir.

00:48:04.000 That'll do it.

00:48:05.000 And hope you have a great day.

00:48:06.000 You too, my friend.

00:48:08.000 Yeah, I mean, people ask, why is Alex Jones still alive?

00:48:11.000 Well, if they kill me, it just makes all my information and material that much more popular.

00:48:16.000 It kind of highlights everything I've done.

00:48:19.000 But somebody like a Polish president, who says, I don't like the Russians, but I'm starting to not like NATO and the EU, and you've destroyed our economy with globalization, and we're going to get out of this.

00:48:32.000 And they announced that they were going to do that last week, and five days later he's deader than a hammer.

00:48:41.000 And as soon as we get a hold of Tarpley in the next few days, we'll get him on to give us his take because he really is an expert in this whole area.

00:48:48.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Tom in Texas.

00:48:50.000 Tom, you're on the air.

00:48:52.000 Hello, Alex.

00:48:52.000 How are you doing today?

00:48:53.000 Good, sir.

00:48:55.000 Had a good vacation, I hope.

00:48:58.000 April 9th of this year, Sheriff Arvin West of Hudspeth County told citizens to arm themselves because we can no longer protect them from spillover of border violence.

00:49:10.000 That's the third largest county in the state of Texas.

00:49:13.000 Let me stop you because we have an Ohio County doing it and a Michigan County saying arm yourselves.

00:49:20.000 But a sheriff, and we've had a lot of South Texas sheriffs on, give me the name of the sheriff because I want to pull an article on this right now and I also want to get the sheriff on.

00:49:28.000 Give me the name.

00:49:30.000 Arvin, A-R-V-I-N, West of Hudspeth County, Texas.

00:49:37.000 It borders El Paso.

00:49:40.000 What's his name again?

00:49:41.000 Arvin West.

00:49:43.000 Okay, I thought you said Arvin West of... Okay, Arvin West, and where is he?

00:49:48.000 Hudspeth County, H-U-D-S-P-E-T-H.

00:49:52.000 It borders El Paso County.

00:49:55.000 So what we should say is South Texas Sheriff says arm yourselves to protect yourselves?

00:50:01.000 Well, it's more of a West Texas.

00:50:04.000 It's the county that you go through before you get to El Paso County.

00:50:09.000 Yeah, I just see that as South because it's down there by the border, but sure. 0.51

00:50:14.000 Yeah, Southwest.

00:50:15.000 Texas is on the border.

00:50:18.000 Anyway, what I'm saying is he's telling people in that county to arm themselves because you can't protect them anymore.

00:50:24.000 Also in the statement he said that Rick Perry had activated the Texas border violence spillover contingency plan in which he requested federal aid.

00:50:37.000 Is that all that our government and our governor and the state of Texas is going to do?

00:50:42.000 They're just going to let this continue?

00:50:46.000 Well, I remember last year, what was the Texas State Senator we had on?

00:50:51.000 We need to get him back on, I forget his name.

00:50:53.000 He said martial law had secretly been declared last year on the Texas border because they believe Mexico will fully collapse into anarchy because of the drug war.

00:51:02.000 If they decriminalize drugs, it would all end, like a storm blowing over.

00:51:07.000 The drug war is meant, just like China was brought down with the drug war, it's meant to bring us down. 0.97

00:51:12.000 And so there's no way they're going to stop.

00:51:14.000 But I did get the article, it's a Sheriff Arvin West of Hudspeth County, Texas tells citizens to arm themselves as you can no longer protect them from spillover border violence.

00:51:26.000 So absolutely, and that's over on the border in West Texas by El Paso.

00:51:34.000 Michael Burgess.

00:51:35.000 Get Michael Burgess back on about this situation.

00:51:39.000 Uh, good points.

00:51:39.000 Anything else you want to add, Caller?

00:51:41.000 Well, all I wanted to say was, uh, maybe the rest of us start thinking along these lines also because the obvious Rick Perry is not going to do anything and it's obvious that, uh, Barry Satoro is not going to do anything.

00:51:53.000 I think he's going to let it get to a critical boiling point and then declare martial law and take our rights away.

00:51:59.000 I agree with you, but again, martial law was covertly declared over a year ago, and that was even in some of the El Paso and other west and south Texas papers.

00:52:09.000 And I remember six, seven years ago talking about rocket attacks, hand grenade attacks, 17,000 dead this year just on the border.

00:52:16.000 I mean, it is just, I mean, once beautiful towns are just boarded up, high rises, totaled, and now It's getting like that in other cities in the state.

00:52:26.000 But when there's a car bombing with the Mexican Mafia killing somebody in Dallas, it's a footnote to the Dallas Morning News.

00:52:32.000 Meanwhile, I'm here calling for nonviolence in the medias.

00:52:35.000 Alex Jones is deadly! 0.94

00:52:36.000 He wants to kill the government! 0.99

00:52:39.000 Government, get him! 1.00

00:52:40.000 Get him!

00:52:41.000 Because we're here exposing their whole scam.

00:52:43.000 I appreciate your call, Tom.

00:52:45.000 Man, how many articles have I seen just the last few days?

00:52:48.000 I'm looking for my stack here.

00:52:52.000 Oh, it's in my economy stack.

00:52:54.000 Where finally the truth is coming out.

00:52:58.000 The police are saying all money goes to the banks now.

00:53:01.000 They're firing more than half of us.

00:53:03.000 Buy guns!

00:53:06.000 But, I mean, you could have, look at New York, look at Chicago.

00:53:08.000 More cops than the other cities per capita.

00:53:10.000 Highest crime rate.

00:53:12.000 The cops, if they wanted to protect you, can't protect you.

00:53:16.000 You can't have a cop in every house.

00:53:19.000 You can disarm everyone.

00:53:20.000 The criminals are still going to have guns.

00:53:22.000 It's so elementary.

00:53:24.000 It's so elementary.

00:53:25.000 And on the YouTube videos of these local newscasts where the sheriffs are saying, arm yourselves, I see comments going, if we ban all guns, this would just end.

00:53:34.000 Oh yes, ban all.

00:53:35.000 Then the murderers would use pickaxes and daggers and clubs. 0.99

00:53:41.000 I mean, it's asinine. 0.99

00:53:42.000 The answer is more guns, more guns, more guns, more guns. 0.98

00:53:47.000 And the American people have known this for over a year.

00:53:49.000 What was it?

00:53:52.000 14 million guns sold last year, another 3.5 million sold last time.

00:53:57.000 That's almost 18 million guns in the last year and three months.

00:54:01.000 18 million guns sold?

00:54:03.000 The people know what's going on.

00:54:07.000 I don't think some of the general public realizes just how bad it is and how crazy the times are and what we're going into.

00:54:13.000 We're in a depression, folks.

00:54:15.000 We've had a recession going for at least three years.

00:54:18.000 Three quarters of a recession.

00:54:22.000 With unemployment above 20% is a depression.

00:54:25.000 Unemployment is not 10% like the news says.

00:54:28.000 Every major private firm says 22%.

00:54:32.000 Makes me dizzy.

00:54:33.000 It really gives me a headache.

00:54:34.000 Jim in Illinois, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:54:37.000 Alex, can you hear me?

00:54:38.000 Yes, sir.

00:54:40.000 All right.

00:54:41.000 I'm from the People's Republic of Illinois, and I have one comment and one question.

00:54:49.000 First, I want to give you a little background.

00:54:52.000 I have a family member in federal law enforcement, but I'll tell you a bottom line.

00:54:58.000 My wife got me a Romanian AK-47 for Valentine's Day.

00:55:03.000 Nothing says love like an assault rifle.

00:55:06.000 My comment is about this Polish, um, crash. 1.00

00:55:12.000 You there?

00:55:13.000 Yes, sir.

00:55:14.000 All right.

00:55:15.000 It seems a little suspicious to me.

00:55:17.000 This is supposed to be the anniversary of essentially a Russian genocide of Polish, um, intelligence officers and whatever they are.

00:55:28.000 And all of a sudden it crashes.

00:55:30.000 That seems just a little, you know, It doesn't fit with me, right?

00:55:34.000 No, no, I had thought that as well, but is it meant to be blamed on the Russians, or did the Russians do it?

00:55:39.000 I don't know.

00:55:40.000 I don't know either.

00:55:42.000 I'm just putting out the question.

00:55:44.000 And, by the way, I want to hear you on Coastmore.

00:55:48.000 And WLS here in Chicago cuts it off after two hours.

00:55:51.000 It's just pretty crappy.

00:55:53.000 Okay, here's my question. 0.67

00:55:55.000 I'm a little scared about Obama's latest statement About how he is concerned about these, uh, he didn't say suitcase, but essentially suitcase nukes in the hands of terrorists.

00:56:10.000 No, I brought that up with Schaefer.

00:56:12.000 He's saying the main threat is now nukes.

00:56:14.000 And how many times have I said that's the way for revolutionaries to take over?

00:56:18.000 Michael Savage agrees.

00:56:19.000 Limbaugh has said there's no way Obama is going to get re-elected.

00:56:23.000 The Democrats are going to have to stage a crisis.

00:56:26.000 Let's just come out with it.

00:56:27.000 The globalist banks ...are looking at setting off a nuke in this country.

00:56:32.000 They will even go that far to get everybody scared, to bow down to Obama and do whatever they say, to then go off and launch new wars to try to get the economy going again.

00:56:42.000 And I think this is a serious issue.

00:56:44.000 In fact, it's in my stack, but I may not find it.

00:56:46.000 Reprint, Obama worried about nuclear terrorism.

00:56:48.000 It's AP.

00:56:49.000 We'll come back, comment on that.

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01:06:49.000 And of course, we are honored to have him with us today.

01:06:52.000 He's also featured in the documentary film New World Order 2009.

01:06:59.000 And Jim has identified, and he's always been accurate in the past, Jim has identified Builderberg meeting in Spain.

01:07:13.000 Now I saw people commenting on Infowars.com last week when some were speculating that it was going to be in England or Spain.

01:07:19.000 Now Jim confirmed it's Spain and he's always been right in the past. 0.61

01:07:22.000 And the Bilderbergs sometimes will rent multiple hotels, put out this info to find out what moles they've got. 0.78

01:07:30.000 People are commenting, well, why don't they just have it in Japan?

01:07:32.000 Why don't they just have it in Africa? 0.97

01:07:34.000 No, they only have it in Western Europe, the Caribbean, or Canada or the U.S.

01:07:39.000 They do three years in Europe, one year in the U.S.

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01:07:53.000 And so we're working on getting Jim on, and that'll be coming up in the next segment, hopefully.

01:08:00.000 I also want to continue with news, but right now let's go back to your calls.

01:08:08.000 Let's talk to Jimmy in Michigan.

01:08:09.000 Jimmy, you're on the air.

01:08:10.000 How you doing today, Alex?

01:08:12.000 Good, sir.

01:08:16.000 I talked to Michael Savage, and I finally made it on your show, on your website.

01:08:20.000 It was amazing.

01:08:22.000 You're the guy that called in and talked about how they set up the Hattari militia, and now they've released their best evidence.

01:08:28.000 The guy's like, yeah, the government keeps pushing.

01:08:30.000 We'll have to fight them someday.

01:08:32.000 I mean, most Americans have talked like that.

01:08:34.000 Boom, you go to prison.

01:08:36.000 Right, I understand that.

01:08:37.000 And I also would like to point out that Mike Meeks, Michael David Meeks is one of the guys... I can speak for him because I've known him for over 30 years.

01:08:49.000 I've broken bread with his family.

01:08:51.000 He was welcome in my home.

01:08:53.000 He was going to be best man at my wedding on the 8th of May.

01:08:57.000 This is my friend.

01:08:58.000 I've known him forever.

01:09:00.000 There's no way that he would have ever been involved in any kind of conspiracy like this.

01:09:05.000 He is the kind of guy that wanted to change things But he was always doing it in a civil way.

01:09:13.000 He ran for Republican precinct delegate and became one.

01:09:18.000 And we've been talking about Ann Norlander for Secretary of State.

01:09:24.000 Michael Bishop for Attorney General.

01:09:27.000 We just started digging into the guys that are running... Well look, look, look, look!

01:09:31.000 The media is saying I'm calling for insurrection and violence when I'm not, as a way to make us the bad guys and let the system have the moral high ground.

01:09:40.000 And the best evidence they've got is the supposed leader, Stone, and he doesn't say anything you should go to prison for.

01:09:46.000 I mean, talk show hosts say much more extreme things every day.

01:09:51.000 And so clearly this whole thing is a setup to create the illusion there's all these violent militias out there.

01:09:57.000 Exactly.

01:09:58.000 And Mr. Potok, who's certainly welcome to his opinion, why doesn't he come and talk to one of us?

01:10:07.000 I'll debate him anytime, anywhere, no problem.

01:10:11.000 Well obviously they don't want the truth getting out and they want to continue with the illusion that anybody that criticizes the government is a terrorist that wants to murder people while the government uses more and more force against the citizens every day in this country and gets more and more oppressive and sells us on the idea of police dogs attacking old women at the G20.

01:10:31.000 But I'd like to get your name and number and perhaps have you on as a guest to talk more about the Hattari and maybe get some of the other locals on with you that knew some of these people so we can dispel the propaganda.

01:10:45.000 But I saw them being set up when that pale horse guy, Sickles, and they admit one of the members is a Fed. 0.94

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01:14:14.000 Jim Tucker is our guest, definitely under government surveillance.

01:14:18.000 He's been shot at before.

01:14:20.000 Shot at at Bilderberg.

01:14:22.000 I've had the feds come into my hotel and try to set me up for wanting to attack the State Department.

01:14:27.000 In 2008 it did turn out that Hillary and Obama were at that meeting.

01:14:31.000 His phone always works great at home, until we call him for an interview and his phone line was unintelligible.

01:14:36.000 We've got him via cell phone.

01:14:39.000 Jim Tucker is our guest now.

01:14:42.000 We really appreciate him coming on with us.

01:14:45.000 He's always been accurate in the past, but many others haven't been.

01:14:50.000 But now we have identified where Bilderberg is.

01:14:55.000 It's a lot of fun as usual.

01:14:56.000 The trilateral meeting comes first.

01:14:58.000 He's also found where the Trilateral Commission is meeting before that, and we'll find out if he knows what's on the agenda this year and if the Bilderberg boys are mad that their global warming hoax that they plan to fund their world government is in so much trouble.

01:15:12.000 Jim Tucker, good to have you with us.

01:15:13.000 It's a lot of fun as usual.

01:15:16.000 The Trilateral meeting comes first.

01:15:19.000 That's Thursday, May 6th through Monday morning, May 10th, and that will be in Dublin, Ireland, The jury is in.

01:15:32.000 They're staying at Four Seasons Resort, which is a big spa place.

01:15:37.000 And Bilderberg's meeting is a month later, in a typical fashion, from Thursday, June 3, until Monday morning, June 7.

01:15:48.000 They're meeting in a little town called SITGES, which is about 20 miles from Barcelona.

01:16:02.000 And they're sitting at the Ektamar Hotel, which is a big, small place.

01:16:07.000 And, of course, we'll be there holding their hands for them.

01:16:13.000 As far as their agenda is concerned this year, getting ready to duck heavy on their agenda this year, which is not at all unusual, unfortunately, is their intentions for Europeans and Americans is their intentions for Europeans and Americans to pay higher income taxes.

01:16:35.000 Yes.

01:16:36.000 Significantly higher income taxes because of their plan to level the world so that the third world countries' federal living rises. 1.00

01:16:49.000 And so this is what you're getting from your inside sources, and for those that just joined us, Jim Tucker, for more than 30 years has been exposing the highest level of the World Government Crime Council, the Bilderberg Group, 125 of the most powerful people in the world from Western Europe and North America,

01:17:14.000 Meeting in secret and the information he's released years before things even happen from Bilderberg Proves the fact that they are governing and controlling our planet to a very great extent now A week ago, you revealed that they are going to push for raising our taxes to the level of France, basically, but to also suppress the third world, but lower us. 0.87

01:17:41.000 And now that's mirrored by Bernanke saying we've all got to pay more taxes, Volcker saying we've got to have value added and carbon taxes.

01:17:50.000 And all the services are being cut, some police departments are firing half their cops, some sheriff's departments more than half, but the taxes go up like a third world nation, everything goes to the bankers.

01:18:03.000 Yes, they manipulated the worldwide depression and now they're exploiting it for their own selfish reasons.

01:18:12.000 They intend to keep it going for at least until late in the year 2011, late next year.

01:18:18.000 for their own purposes.

01:18:20.000 And now we have Bernanke telling a private group of businessmen in Texas that these sources are difficult, quote, quote, these sources are difficult.

01:18:30.000 It always seems easier to put them off until the day they cannot be put off anymore.

01:18:34.000 And he said that we've got to raise taxes and cut services.

01:18:39.000 And he said that to a group of businessmen in Dallas, and their job is to be a little mess with your boys and go out and tell everybody.

01:18:48.000 in the world that we need to accept it.

01:18:50.000 America gets so hungry and so desperate, they'll accept anything.

01:18:55.000 But yet, he engineered, he and the other boys, engineered the very financial crisis that they're exploiting, and everything's going according to their plan at this point.

01:19:07.000 Jim, what's it like for you to be laughed at for 20 years with the media saying Bilderberg didn't exist, and now the last 10 of that 30, now they admit open news every day, world government, global constitution, private banks to rule the planet with a global banking constitution.

01:19:25.000 I mean, now it's right out in the open.

01:19:28.000 Well, more so in Europe than the United States because the blackout remains With the major newspapers like the Washington Post, New York Times, LA Times, Associated Press, and the broadcast networks.

01:19:44.000 Now there's been more exposure, as you've observed when you attended the meetings, about independent broadcast outlets like yourself, independent radio, TV stations, independent newspapers, not chain newspapers.

01:19:58.000 And we had a lot of those reporters out in Chantilly and also a lot in Pitt area.

01:20:04.000 Anytime they're in the Western Hemisphere, that is, Canada or the United States, we get a great deal of reporting from these independent outlets, but not from the major newspapers we get a great deal of reporting from these independent outlets,

01:20:22.000 they've all attended over the years, including the top networks, broadcast networks, a lifetime promise to reveal nothing, never even use the word Bill Burry.

01:20:35.000 Well, Jim, we're seeing a lot of top globalists now calling for censoring the web, ending net neutrality, and basically restricting free speech, England just passed a law.

01:20:48.000 A lot of other nations are passing laws.

01:20:50.000 Australia, Italy.

01:20:53.000 Is that on their agenda?

01:20:54.000 Because we see globalist spokesmen at Davos, kind of a public Bilderberg meeting, calling for this.

01:20:59.000 What other intel are you getting from your sources is going to be on the agenda at Bilderberg 2010?

01:21:08.000 Well, as far as free speech is concerned, they've never had a First Amendment in Europe.

01:21:13.000 And, in fact, it's a crime to hurt somebody's feelings.

01:21:19.000 Let's see, in the Netherlands and in England and in France and in Germany and other countries, it is a crime to hurt somebody's feelings.

01:21:35.000 Of course, in our own country under the First Amendment, I can say the most horrible things about you to you, but if it's not published by, if I'm not saying it to a third party or writing it to a third party, it's not libelous, it's not flatterous, because I've said it only to you.

01:21:55.000 But they don't have that kind of, never have had that kind of pre-thought.

01:22:03.000 But you were asking more about the agenda this year.

01:22:06.000 Yes, go ahead.

01:22:06.000 What else is on their agenda?

01:22:13.000 Even as we speak, the International Monetary Fund, as we've reported for it, is still devolved into the World Treasury Department.

01:22:29.000 They're laying down propaganda already.

01:22:31.000 Unless we do something to fix our fiscal path, policies that will tilt the curve downward, you'll see these problems come forward, says Ford or Fed economist Michael Mussa, to the Peterson on April 8th, to the Peterson Institute for International Economics, in calling for a tax hike here in Europe.

01:22:49.000 And we're hearing from a lot of characters.

01:22:56.000 I'm stumbling with my notes here as we speak.

01:22:59.000 Well, while you dig around in your notes there, and again, Jim's been fighting these people forever, I mean, it's all over the BBC, London Guardian, Times of London.

01:23:08.000 They say, a planetary government with the IMF and World Bank as the global treasury, and the private banks will govern the planet.

01:23:16.000 I mean, this is openly being announced, and they say, we're going to raise all your taxes and cut your services, and now Bloomberg reports they're going to take everybody's pension funds and give it to the bankers.

01:23:26.000 And if you don't like it, they'll just turn Northcom loose on you.

01:23:31.000 Yes, as I said, in Europe there's a great deal of attention to major newspapers for a lot of years.

01:23:38.000 In fact, I think I've mentioned so many times before, it was about Helsinki, about 1980-something, and we had in the spotlight the Band-Aid of American Free Press.

01:23:53.000 We had the story earlier that year, their exact location.

01:23:56.000 And we got letters from Europe saying, of course our circulation is hardly wall-to-wall in Europe, but it costs so much to send it by mail, so one person could share his paper with 10 other people to help out at a subscription.

01:24:10.000 So we got letters from leaders saying, should we alert the local media?

01:24:14.000 And I said, yes.

01:24:19.000 When Kissinger and the other kids got off the airplane at Helsinki Airport and headed for their limousines, they were stunned to see all those cameras and reporters yelling questions.

01:24:32.000 And the major newspapers in London and Paris and throughout Europe give heavy page-one attention.

01:24:40.000 Photographs, stories, raising the same questions we always raise.

01:24:44.000 And they're a great deal of help.

01:24:45.000 We pool our information.

01:24:46.000 We meet regularly every evening and identify.

01:24:50.000 Well, you've been to those meetings.

01:24:52.000 You know what we do?

01:24:54.000 We identify as many people as we can in case we don't get the official list.

01:24:59.000 And, again, before they would deny this, but you would get in there, steal their membership list, expose that a global government group is meeting in secret, and the decisions they make there are implemented.

01:25:11.000 And you were saying on the agenda is to continue the global depression so they can consolidate power. - Thank you.

01:25:18.000 Yes.

01:25:19.000 We're not going to come out of this until late 2011.

01:25:24.000 There might be a little perk here and there, as far as digging out.

01:25:27.000 Nope.

01:25:28.000 Not at all.

01:25:29.000 But they do plan to bring us out of it, though.

01:25:33.000 As soon as they're convenient.

01:25:36.000 Now, you remember, it was not so many years ago that they decided that we should have a little bit more prosperity.

01:25:43.000 Stay there, stay there Jim.

01:25:44.000 gas prices, they'd order the gas prices up to nearly $5 a gallon.

01:25:48.000 And then they decided to reduce the gas prices.

01:25:53.000 Stay there.

01:25:54.000 Stay there, Jim.

01:25:54.000 We're going to break and come back and talk about how they control gas prices.

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01:29:55.000 Again, Jim Tucker has been working for major newspapers since the 40s and 50s.

01:30:07.000 And he travels to these events.

01:30:10.000 He climbs through gutters when he was younger, steals their membership list, proves this group exists.

01:30:15.000 It's the most elite on the planet.

01:30:16.000 Now BBC and others have gotten their documents from the 50s when they plan to set up the European Union by stealth.

01:30:22.000 And Jim has sources inside Bilderberg.

01:30:24.000 And absolutely, he said in 2008 when gas was... 1.00

01:30:29.000 Uh, shit. 0.99

01:30:31.000 Okay, more bad news. 1.00

01:30:32.000 Gas prices are going up, possibly over the next two years for $7 a gallon, like they pay in Europe.

01:30:36.000 happened.

01:30:37.000 Then he said they were going to drive it back down.

01:30:38.000 That happened.

01:30:39.000 So Jim, you've got your notes there from your Bilderberg source this year.

01:30:42.000 What else is on their agenda?

01:30:45.000 Because we're looking into their crystal ball right now.

01:30:47.000 Okay.

01:30:48.000 More bad news.

01:30:49.000 Gas prices are going up possibly over the next two years for $7 a gallon, like they pay in Europe.

01:30:56.000 And they say so many times, Europeans pay $7 a gallon.

01:30:59.000 Now observe that, uh, there's a plentiful supply of oil, uh, We've got more than enough oil coming out of everywhere.

01:31:12.000 So, there's no rationalization with this supply of oil to raise prices, other than their arbitrary decision to raise prices.

01:31:20.000 So, sadly, your oil prices are going to be going up.

01:31:27.000 Uh, quite high in the next year.

01:31:29.000 And that's from Bilderberg and Queen Beatrix, one of the owners of Dutch Rochelle and BP.

01:31:34.000 She's one of the chief owners of the Queen of England.

01:31:37.000 She's the Queen of the Netherlands.

01:31:38.000 She wants more of our money. 1.00

01:31:40.000 Yes.

01:31:43.000 Uh, you'll notice it.

01:31:45.000 They had the power to do that a few years ago when gas prices were about $5 a gallon.

01:31:52.000 The, uh, Bill Burkitt said it's time to, uh, bring down the price of gasoline because Joe Sixpack may not get off of his scooter or his small car, uh, if we don't bring prices down right away because once he gets used to that small car or to his bicycle or motorbike, we may not get him back.

01:32:14.000 And they were able to, uh, bring down the, uh, at that time the price of oil was, oh, something like 140-some dollars.

01:32:22.000 a barrel, and they brought it down to about $80 a barrel.

01:32:27.000 Prices dropped from over $4 a gallon down to less than $2 a gallon.

01:32:34.000 So what else is on the agenda?

01:32:37.000 So they have the power to work it either way they want to, and they're going to bring it back up now.

01:32:45.000 OK, and that's from your source.

01:32:47.000 What other tidbits are on the agenda?

01:32:49.000 What are they concerned about?

01:32:50.000 What about war with Iran?

01:32:54.000 Again, they're divided on that.

01:32:57.000 The Americans and Israelis want to get a war to attack Iran.

01:33:09.000 Uh, most European Bilderbergs, not all of them, are opposed to invasion.

01:33:13.000 They want to talk some more.

01:33:15.000 So, this was a few times they've been, uh, did not speak with a united voice on a single issue.

01:33:23.000 That dates back to Bilderberg and Trilateral opposing the, uh, U.S.

01:33:30.000 invasion of, uh, of Iraq in 2000.

01:33:38.000 Let's see, in 2001, and the Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, of course of Bilderberg, promised the Bilderberg that it would not invade this year.

01:33:53.000 So, the other newspapers reporting the wars, including the Martian Post, reporting that the United States would invade Iraq in late summer or early fall, at the latest, of 2001.

01:34:06.000 We were reporting the oil start until 2002, probably about March.

01:34:15.000 I read your paper at the time.

01:34:17.000 It was 2002 they said it was going to happen.

01:34:18.000 You said no, 2003.

01:34:20.000 You had to follow the Berlin Wall.

01:34:23.000 Hundreds of accurate predictions because you've infiltrated and have sources.

01:34:27.000 We don't get into those modes of getting those sources.

01:34:30.000 Continuing, what else are they planning?

01:34:34.000 Well, that's about all the information I have now on the actual agenda.

01:34:40.000 Of course, we'll be getting more as we work this story down the road.

01:34:43.000 And a lot of this will be appearing in American Free Press as the next edition goes in next Friday.

01:34:51.000 Let's see, you kept asking me how people subscribe.

01:34:59.000 The listeners to your broadcast get one year subscription for $35.

01:35:03.000 The regular price is $59 for one year.

01:35:06.000 But your listeners can get a discount down to $35 for one year.

01:35:10.000 You just call American Free Press at 202-544-5977.

01:35:16.000 And this is a weekly newspaper.

01:35:18.000 Yes, every Friday.

01:35:21.000 Jim, I have one or two other questions.

01:35:23.000 We're going to come back and give that number out one more time.

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01:35:28.000 Jim Tucker is our guest.

01:35:29.000 We'll give you that subscription for the hard copy paper.

01:35:33.000 It's an interesting little paper, a lot of key information in there.

01:35:36.000 It's been published for decades under another name, and now it's American Free Press.

01:35:41.000 Jim Tucker is our guest, and I'll try to wring more information out of him straight ahead.

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01:38:50.000 Call 800-409-5633, efoodsdirect.com slash Alex. We're talking to an icon in the fight against the new world order.

01:39:06.000 You have these kings, these queens, the top 30 richest families, all meeting and he's snuck in, he's stolen their minutes.

01:39:17.000 I've infiltrated, I've covered it.

01:39:20.000 And it's world government.

01:39:22.000 This is the group.

01:39:23.000 And they tried to deny.

01:39:23.000 Oh, there's no secret group.

01:39:25.000 There's no new world order.

01:39:26.000 And now, they openly announce, OK, we're going to have a global treasury run by the private banks.

01:39:32.000 We will levy the taxes.

01:39:33.000 They've got all their banker spokesmen from England to Europe to Iceland to Greece to the U.S.

01:39:38.000 saying, we've got to raise your taxes and we're going to cut your services.

01:39:42.000 Everything goes to the banks.

01:39:44.000 Remember, they made all this money up out of nothing through the private Federal Reserve System and similar central banks.

01:39:51.000 They had an article a month ago in all the major papers in Australia.

01:39:56.000 And the headlines were, in fact pull it up and put it on screen, Bank heads meet in secret in Australia.

01:40:03.000 And you list the names, it's all Bilderberg group members.

01:40:05.000 So they have other meetings.

01:40:07.000 But this is their central mafia godfather commission meeting.

01:40:11.000 I don't want to glaze over this, Jim, and then we're going to let you go, because I know you're a busy guy.

01:40:16.000 You mentioned on their agenda is the IMF, from your source, this is also now in the news, as the world treasury.

01:40:24.000 And how angry are they about their Copenhagen treaty?

01:40:27.000 Were the private banks would levy taxes on us and run our lives being exposed by Climategate?

01:40:34.000 They're angry if you ever see, hear one word spoken or see one word printed about Bill O'Brien, they're angry.

01:40:42.000 They're used to, for 20 years, they're used to absolute secrecy.

01:40:46.000 But their commitment to turning the International Monetary Fund into a World Treasury Department is unabated.

01:40:55.000 A year ago, in Greece, they came up with that plan to exploit the economic stress around the world to get the world to accept a World Treasury Department, of which the IMF was to evolve.

01:41:12.000 And they're still committed to that, even though they were frustrated in their efforts to impose it right away.

01:41:17.000 So, we still have that one to fight.

01:41:20.000 We're winning it so far.

01:41:23.000 Let's never stop fighting.

01:41:24.000 Now, Jim, every time I've had you on, I've asked you to really scan your memory from your Bilderberg sources.

01:41:34.000 We'll just leave it at that.

01:41:35.000 Anything else we should know about this area of Spain or what else is going to be on their agenda or anything else that we know they're concerned about?

01:41:44.000 No, I'm exhausted.

01:41:48.000 The preliminary information I have about this, Of course, I'll have a lot more when I get there, because now I'm getting a lot of help not only from European newspapers, but from some of the high officials themselves who have come forward privately to provide information.

01:42:06.000 So we'll have a lot more as time goes by.

01:42:13.000 I've just got exhausted the preliminary information I now have.

01:42:17.000 And you're going again.

01:42:19.000 So this is 30 plus Bilderberg Group meetings that you have covered.

01:42:24.000 Yes.

01:42:26.000 It's gotta be satisfying to go from people laughing at you to now Bilderberg being in hundreds of publications a year.

01:42:32.000 I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you.

01:42:36.000 It's gotta be satisfying, Jim, to have worked on this so long.

01:42:39.000 I couldn't hear you.

01:42:41.000 Jim?

01:42:43.000 I can't hear you.

01:42:45.000 Okay.

01:42:46.000 Can you hear me?

01:42:47.000 Jim, we can hear you.

01:42:48.000 Can you hear us?

01:42:52.000 I think we have to give up.

01:42:53.000 I can't hear you.

01:42:54.000 Alright, let him go.

01:42:56.000 Let him go.

01:42:56.000 Thank you, Jim.

01:43:00.000 Yeah, Jim's regular phone line, you couldn't even hear him, and then his cell phone, you know cell phones sometimes drop.

01:43:06.000 I want to say bye to him, but I don't know how he keeps doing it.

01:43:10.000 I mean I saw him a few years ago at Bilderberg in Virginia and he'd be trying to get up out of a chair and his hips were hurting him so bad He's a he's a tough old bird, but that guy that guy just keeps going and he has a lot more energy once he gets to Bilderberg, you know, he Didn't chased around by secret police in Greece.

01:43:35.000 That's some amazing footage That's all covered in in-game blueprint for global enslavement and Well actually that part, that's Canada and then Istanbul, Turkey.

01:43:51.000 I guess we've got clips of what he's doing in the Obama deception from one of the other Bilderberg group meetings.

01:43:58.000 Okay, let me now go through a bunch of news that's important.

01:44:03.000 For those out there that don't understand what net neutrality is, net neutrality is the internet as you know it.

01:44:11.000 Net neutrality is being able to visit any website you want, you go by internet subscription, and you can visit MSNBC, you can visit InfoWars.com, you can visit BBC, you can visit the Drudge Report.

01:44:23.000 You can visit your Little League football team website, you can visit a parks and recreation website, you can visit a dentist website, or a doctor's website, or the Easter Bunny's website if you so choose.

01:44:35.000 Now, here is an article Out of executive and management briefing, Comcast's win over FCC reignites net neutrality debate.

01:44:44.000 The most immediate ramification of Comcast's net neutrality victory over the Federal Communications Commission this week is that ISPs might feel less inclined not to interfere in the traffic running over their networks.

01:44:54.000 However, the implications range well beyond that, coloring every aspect of broadband marketplace.

01:45:00.000 Now, this is what China does, but the government is the big ISP basically, over the ISPs, and it decides what you can visit, what you can't.

01:45:10.000 And they just put you in a blacklist.

01:45:12.000 Australia's doing this.

01:45:13.000 England's moving to do this.

01:45:16.000 In fact, here is an article on that front out of cnetnews.uk.

01:45:21.000 This is a CBS outfit.

01:45:23.000 Digital economy bill, nine things you can't do anymore.

01:45:26.000 And it says, download from us.

01:45:29.000 Download.com is part of the big happy CNET family.

01:45:32.000 Among the available software and peer-to-peer share filing tools, the bill specifically states that websites such as Download.com can be blocked if they're providing tools that infringe copyrights.

01:45:42.000 Even legal sites run by CBS that have nothing but legal stuff on there, and they give you tools to download, that isn't allowed in England.

01:45:54.000 Use WikiLeaks!

01:45:56.000 Most worrying is that the same clause also specifically allows for blocking sites deemed likely to infringe on copyright.

01:46:03.000 So, you expose a government document, doesn't matter if the government hasn't challenged it, they say that's government copyright, you won't be able to see WikiLeaks.

01:46:11.000 And this is all stated, and it goes on and on.

01:46:14.000 So people need to stop living in denial.

01:46:16.000 Meanwhile, here's Fox News' Glenn Beck last week.

01:46:19.000 This is from foxnews.com.

01:46:23.000 And it says, net neutrality pits free speech against free press.

01:46:26.000 And he used, in a strawman argument in this article, hundreds of people that have filed with the FCC in briefs for and against ending net neutrality.

01:46:36.000 Ending the internet as we know it.

01:46:38.000 And he used one group out of hundreds that's a Marxist, and says Marxists are running this and that we need to get rid of net neutrality.

01:46:48.000 Meanwhile, Fox News, Writes articles and calls Homeland Security on me a week and a half ago because somebody made violent comments on one of my message boards.

01:46:58.000 We went to Fox News and found their own pundits calling for violence against Obama and more violent talk all over Fox Nation.

01:47:06.000 Needless to say, we did not call the feds on them.

01:47:09.000 But, look, they want to shut me down.

01:47:11.000 They want to shut you down.

01:47:13.000 They want to shut the alternative media down. 0.96

01:47:15.000 Mainstream media is getting their butt kicked by the alternative media. 0.66

01:47:19.000 And Rupert Murdoch has said this. 0.66

01:47:20.000 And they all want to shut down free speech.

01:47:23.000 They can't deal with it.

01:47:27.000 Here's another one.

01:47:27.000 Court rules against FCC net neutrality arrangements and arguments.

01:47:36.000 Now, meanwhile, while we have all of this going on, here's the Wall Street Journal.

01:47:45.000 Now remember, I call it propaganda placement.

01:47:47.000 It's not just Coca-Cola and Pepsi and Worville Redenbacher popcorn ads that are woven into TV shows themselves and into movies.

01:48:00.000 When you're watching a movie and you see National Guard billboards everywhere and Spider-Man or whatever, millions were paid for that.

01:48:08.000 Or on The Apprentice, millions were paid per episode to show Virgin Atlantic signs.

01:48:16.000 It's not just ads during the ads, it's ads during the show.

01:48:19.000 That's how all media is now, because people glaze over a lot of the breaks.

01:48:26.000 Now, tens of billions a year are spent on this, and I've been telling people about it, and Congress has ruled it's illegal, and then the General Accounting Office has said it's illegal, but they don't care.

01:48:36.000 But now they admit the government is going to be the main advertiser with U.S.

01:48:41.000 tax money.

01:48:42.000 They're moving away from product placement, NBC says, to pure behavior placement.

01:48:48.000 Now, I'd never seen this term referenced.

01:48:49.000 I called it propaganda placement.

01:48:51.000 They call it behavior, or I would call it brainwashing placement.

01:48:55.000 And it says, what your TV is telling you to do.

01:48:58.000 And of course, they introduce the fact that you're being propagandized with something that sounds reasonable.

01:49:02.000 Recycle, exercise, eat right.

01:49:05.000 But really, it's anti-family, pro-CPS, anti-Second Amendment, pro-torture, pro-surveillance, pro-corruption.

01:49:14.000 You watch any show, you'll see it.

01:49:15.000 They're being paid your tax money.

01:49:18.000 Those shows are financed to brainwash you.

01:49:22.000 In just one... And that's mainly because people for the last decade or so don't trust mainstream TV.

01:49:27.000 And all the polls and studies show people trust alternative media even more.

01:49:31.000 Sometimes I don't know why. 0.98

01:49:32.000 I mean, there's a lot of garbage in alternative media. 0.97

01:49:35.000 The government's infiltrated that. 0.99

01:49:36.000 They have provocateurs out there.

01:49:38.000 But the point is, you should be suspect of everything, folks, and do research.

01:49:42.000 That doesn't mean just be suspect if someone makes a claim.

01:49:45.000 Go look into it.

01:49:47.000 But because they know you're not really suspect of TV shows and movies, that's where the real messages are.

01:49:53.000 And it goes on.

01:50:00.000 In just one week on NBC, the directives, the detectives on Law & Order investigated a cash for clunkers scam.

01:50:08.000 A nurse on Mercy organized a group bike ride, Al Gore made a guest appearance on 30 Rock, and the office turned Dwight into a cape-wearing superhero obsessed with recycling.

01:50:22.000 See, it's just all brainwashing for peer-pressure-run airheads that watch. 0.99

01:50:27.000 Coincidence?

01:50:28.000 Hardly.

01:50:29.000 Now see, we aired the Al Gore stuff at the time a few months ago, and I said on air, I said, that is staged.

01:50:36.000 That is paid for.

01:50:37.000 Turns out it is paid for by the government.

01:50:41.000 It's all paid for.

01:50:42.000 But now they're saying, oh, we're going to pretty much, except for pharmacy ads and drug ads, we're just even abandoning corporations.

01:50:49.000 The government is going to fund this.

01:50:51.000 And remember the FCC head a few weeks ago said, we're going to have government messages and government broadcast systems and government messages and TV.

01:50:59.000 They've always had it.

01:51:00.000 Now they're just going full scale.

01:51:02.000 Land of the free, home of the brave.

01:51:04.000 The tactic, General Electric Co.' 's NBCUniversal calls it, behavior placement.

01:51:08.000 You wonder why every time in football or basketball they make a goal, at that moment of heightened enjoyment, they cut the troops?

01:51:16.000 Clapping?

01:51:17.000 That's meant to say, you like touchdowns?

01:51:20.000 You like a basket?

01:51:21.000 You like a hole-in-one?

01:51:22.000 Troops did it!

01:51:26.000 Miss America says, I just want to thank the troops?

01:51:29.000 That's paid!

01:51:32.000 You wonder why Miss America always praises the UN?

01:51:34.000 That's been paid for for 50 years.

01:51:36.000 It's all brainwashing.

01:51:38.000 And they hand them their talking points.

01:51:41.000 I heard radio ads for Austin Air Force.

01:51:43.000 Nothing to do with the military.

01:51:46.000 This is like 11 years ago.

01:51:47.000 We have an AXS TV show.

01:51:48.000 We did Mike Hanson.

01:51:49.000 I'll dig that out and put it on YouTube.

01:51:50.000 And they were saying, free emissions testing for your cars in all these locations!

01:51:55.000 And if you come to get the emissions testing, you know, $10 or whatever it was off your oil change.

01:52:00.000 So I show up.

01:52:00.000 I walk over to the head of the Austin Air Force.

01:52:02.000 And I said, let me guess.

01:52:03.000 You have a federal government grant, and this is conditioning to prepare the public for new taxes and new emissions testing.

01:52:10.000 And he said, absolutely, Alex.

01:52:11.000 That's the plan.

01:52:13.000 He just laughed.

01:52:14.000 See, it's this culture of enjoyment that the publishers blind and mindless and mercury's good for me, fluoride's good for me, government my friend, fellow reserve my friend, TV show says so.

01:52:29.000 I see these cartoons, countless ones, where the kids have microchips, where world government's good, where the UN's the savior.

01:52:35.000 All paid for!

01:52:38.000 Going back to Captain Planet.

01:52:40.000 Ted Turner admits that.

01:52:43.000 And of course, anybody who has a factory is the bad guy.

01:52:46.000 That's because the government's going to shut down anybody's factories that they don't control. 0.83

01:52:49.000 This is mafia.

01:52:50.000 This is a takeover.

01:52:52.000 The tactic General Electric Co.' 's NBCUniversal calls it behavior placement is designed to sway viewers to adopt actions they see modeled in their favorite shows and it helps sell ads to marketers who want to associate their brands with feel-good, societally aware show.

01:53:08.000 No, see this article itself is deceptive.

01:53:11.000 This is all paid for and that's been admitted in congressional reports.

01:53:13.000 In fact, Google paid government paid for news ruled illegal.

01:53:23.000 Ah!

01:53:25.000 I mean, when you see a newscast locally, but it airs in every local affiliate in the country, that mercury is now good for children's brains and has been found to be nutritious.

01:53:35.000 I mean, that's a real thing that went out from the CBS Broadcast Center in Manhattan.

01:53:39.000 I went and looked it up and it turned out that was a government grant.

01:53:42.000 CBS was paid money, and this is the big secret with radio and TV stations, the big local marquee station that can put everybody out of business and can't be stopped and has all the power.

01:53:54.000 When you listen to their news, and even their newsreaders don't know this, it's all given to them.

01:53:59.000 It's all product placement.

01:54:01.000 But when it's government, it's propaganda placement or behavior placement.

01:54:05.000 And on all the shows, the cool woman's on Prozac. 1.00

01:54:13.000 And on all the shows, the cool woman reports the homeschoolers next door. 1.00

01:54:18.000 Why aren't they in school?

01:54:19.000 The message is homeschooling's illegal.

01:54:21.000 And then always the homeschoolers are bad.

01:54:24.000 That's another thing.

01:54:25.000 Another form of propaganda is on cops.

01:54:27.000 They only show you the guilty. 1.00

01:54:29.000 They only show you white trash scum. 1.00

01:54:31.000 And the message is cops good and clean, public all evil. 1.00

01:54:33.000 All right, I said I'd get to all this other news.

01:54:36.000 We're running out of time here.

01:54:38.000 It's it we live in a total and complete propaganda state and we're one of the few outfits that's gained any prominence that is effective and so the federal government is coming in demonizing The internet, myself and many others to prepare to curtail it and to shut it down.

01:55:02.000 And my message to all of you out there is the time to wake up and to realize what's happening.

01:55:11.000 You're never safe when the government's got police in black uniforms and black masks and there's cameras on street corners.

01:55:17.000 You're never safe when they're secretly arresting people and torturing them.

01:55:20.000 You're never safe when foreign banks are looting trillions of dollars a month. 0.96

01:55:24.000 You're never safe when most of the news and TV is paid for government propaganda and they don't even tell you that.

01:55:29.000 That's not a free society.

01:55:31.000 It's not cute and funny.

01:55:33.000 It's danger, Will Robinson.

01:55:35.000 Danger!

01:55:37.000 What's Robbie the Robot say?

01:55:38.000 Danger, Will Robertson.

01:55:40.000 Danger.

01:55:41.000 This is danger that we're in.

01:55:45.000 This isn't funny.

01:55:46.000 This isn't cute.

01:55:48.000 They're not running drills all over the country with military running real checkpoints in every state in the union because they want to play patty cake, patty cake, baker's man.

01:55:58.000 Roll him up, roll him up, put him in the pan.

01:56:01.000 Mark him, prick him, mark him with a B, put it in the oven for baby and me. 0.98

01:56:05.000 Or however that nursery rhyme goes, you know.

01:56:08.000 This is a fallen republic.

01:56:12.000 This is a society imploding into evil.

01:56:16.000 They're getting rid of our borders.

01:56:17.000 They're staging terror attacks.

01:56:19.000 I mean, I didn't even get into this.

01:56:22.000 Here it is.

01:56:23.000 FCC advisor advocates state-run propaganda megaphone to counter alternative media.

01:56:28.000 See, we're the enemy of the alternative media.

01:56:32.000 I want to come back and get into this Half-Life review.

01:56:36.000 You can see it two ways.

01:56:38.000 We're going to play this video for viewers.

01:56:40.000 It is posted up at InfoWars.com, the video and the text written by Matt Ryan.

01:56:46.000 It's all up on InfoWars.com right now.

01:56:52.000 Oh man, what a broadcast today.

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02:00:11.000 We're going to be posting hordes of videos starting today and throughout the week at InfoWars.com of the different entries.

02:00:19.000 It's just incredible.

02:00:21.000 We'll be playing some of those throughout the week as well.

02:00:28.000 More and more, we like to analyze propaganda here on this radio slash TV show multimedia transmission.

02:00:36.000 And we know there's product placement and propaganda placement, behavior placement as the insiders call it, going on in video games.

02:00:44.000 Video games are now bigger than movies, bigger than TV, profit-wise.

02:00:48.000 And you have some games, tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of people playing simultaneously.

02:00:53.000 The government's tracking what you do, tracking your psychology, the choices you make.

02:00:58.000 This is a psychological warfare dictatorship that we live in.

02:01:05.000 But Half-Life 2 came out a few years ago, and I don't play video games, but people kept sending me emails saying, your show's like Half-Life 2, or it's like Metal Gear Solid, or it's like, and I've gone and looked at all these video games now, and it's all, the government's gonna microchip you, they're putting stuff in the water, they're brainwashing you, they're drugging you, a world government's coming, and people say, oh good, they're fighting the New World Order.

02:01:31.000 I've talked to some of the game developers now and at the grassroots, they're fans of the show.

02:01:35.000 In fact, I've been woven into quite a few major video games.

02:01:38.000 I've even licensed it where they can use clips of my voice in some popular games.

02:01:44.000 But the issue is that This still just serves to condition everybody, so when I then talk about what's being set up in their plan, this Brave New World, this THX 1138 type society, people say, oh, that's just Metal Gear Solid, or that's just Half-Life 2.

02:02:01.000 We've got a video, Infowars.com reviews Half-Life 2.

02:02:05.000 By Matt Ryan up on Infowars.com.

02:02:08.000 But here's a two-minute video he put together, kind of boiling down Half-Life 2, and everything you see in this video is what the UN and the globalist social engineers say they're planning to set up.

02:02:19.000 This is how you will live, if they even allow you to live, once their world government is in place.

02:02:25.000 This isn't fiction, this is reality, covered in my film, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.

02:02:31.000 Here it is.

02:02:32.000 I don't know how many times I've been relocated.

02:02:34.000 I never get used to it.

02:02:37.000 Welcome.

02:02:38.000 Welcome to City 17.

02:02:41.000 You have chosen, or been chosen, to relocate to one of our finest remaining urban centers.

02:02:48.000 I thought so much of City 17 that I elected to establish my administration here, in the citadel so thoughtfully provided by our benefactors.

02:03:00.000 I've been proud to call City 17 my home.

02:03:04.000 And so, whether you are here to stay or passing through on your way to parts unknown, welcome to City 17.

02:03:14.000 It's safer here.

02:03:18.000 But this stuff, it's all I have left.

02:03:22.000 All right, I'm moving.

02:03:23.000 Jeez.

02:03:24.000 Police brutality.

02:03:25.000 Are you the only ones on that train?

02:03:26.000 Overwatch stopped our train of goods and took my husband for questioning.

02:03:36.000 They said he'd be on the next train.

02:03:38.000 I'm not sure when that was.

02:03:41.000 Did there be nice enough letting me wait for him?

02:03:45.000 Don't drink the water.

02:03:48.000 They put something in it to make you forget.

02:03:50.000 I don't even remember how I got here.

02:03:55.000 I see they took your suitcase too.

02:03:57.000 They can't get away with this much longer.

02:04:00.000 I'm working up the nerve to go on.

02:04:02.000 Cabreen again?

02:04:03.000 I was hoping I'd seen the last of him in City 14.

02:04:07.000 I wouldn't say that too loud.

02:04:08.000 This is his base of operations.

02:04:11.000 Welcome.

02:04:12.000 Welcome to City 17.

02:04:14.000 That's what the airports are.

02:04:33.000 They're training you to live as a slave and training your children. 0.63

02:04:36.000 God bless you all.

02:04:37.000 Fight back! 1.00

02:04:40.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

Alex Jones Show - April 12, 2010

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