Alex Jones Show - 20100430_Fri_Alex

00:00:04.000 Big Brother.

00:00:05.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:10.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 We have reached the halfway point in this Friday edition.

00:00:24.000 For the next 60 minutes, James Traficant.

00:00:27.000 Here is our guest, the iconic, beam me up, Scotty, there's no intelligent life here, Congressman, who was absolutely railroaded into prison, there is no doubt about that, for exposing corruption and tyranny in this nation.

00:00:42.000 And he's going to discuss the Tea Parties, he's running for the Congress again, we're going to get his take on the militarization of police, what really happened in Oklahoma City, he investigated that, what happened with the Pan Am flight, and a lot more, and we'll take some phone calls, because I did have the phones open earlier for military and police to call in.

00:01:00.000 We have all these government documents where they're training the military for martial law in America, and it's building towards a crescendo.

00:01:08.000 James Traficant, good to have you on with us, sir.

00:01:10.000 Glad to be back, Alex.

00:01:11.000 And I want to say after appearing on your show several months ago, I didn't realize how strong a show you have.

00:01:18.000 And I want to commend you because you are educating millions of American people.

00:01:23.000 I was surprised and I'm honored to be asked to come back on your show.

00:01:27.000 Well, Congressman, we're honored to have you here because of your courage and your steadfastness.

00:01:31.000 So much is happening, so much is going on.

00:01:33.000 I've got questions and issues I want to pick your brain about, but out of the gates, the state of the union, the state of the taxing system, all the new VAT taxes they want, telling us austerity, taxes are going to go up, our benefits are going to go down.

00:01:47.000 What does James Travacant say about that?

00:01:48.000 Well, number one, I think the country is bankrupt.

00:01:50.000 That's evident.

00:01:51.000 And number two, I think all they're talking about doing is just going to further implode this nation.

00:01:57.000 And I see us dismantling like the old Soviet Union. 0.98

00:01:59.000 I really do, Alex.

00:02:00.000 I think that you can't continue to have the income tax that penalizes work, subsidizes illegitimacy, and rewards dependency.

00:02:08.000 It's time to throw it out, abolish the IRS, repeal the 16th Amendment.

00:02:12.000 Now, you know, I support a flat, fair 25% consumption tax on final retail sales.

00:02:18.000 Now, my opponents are saying that's going to hurt the poor.

00:02:20.000 Quite frankly, Alex, Harvard did a study and said when you throw out the burdensome compliance of the IRS, he said the prices are going to drop.

00:02:27.000 The prices will probably be similar to what we have now.

00:02:30.000 But finally, for those naysayers, those people who are under the poverty level will simply take their pay stubs to the government, and there will be a system as there exists now.

00:02:39.000 The only difference with the trafficking bill, Alex, is everybody must work who gets a government stipend.

00:02:45.000 I don't care if they have 12 children that work at the daycare center with those children, You see, anybody that visits Broadway or visits Las Vegas from Germany and Japan did pay into our tax scheme.

00:02:55.000 And finally, it's a trade reciprocity program.

00:02:58.000 If a country has barriers against ours, we have barriers against them.

00:03:02.000 We also quantify the standard we're living in each country and weigh that down.

00:03:06.000 With tariffs as necessary.

00:03:08.000 But it's a flat 25% final retail sales tax.

00:03:12.000 No taxes on used materials, but just new retail sales and services.

00:03:18.000 And Alex, if the country does not move to this scheme, America will implode like the Soviet Union. 0.85

00:03:24.000 That's my prediction right here on the Alex Jones Show.

00:03:26.000 Well, Congressman, I've seen the similar studies.

00:03:28.000 I've talked to economists.

00:03:30.000 It would be good if we only had one federal tax, other than the tariffs they could raise money with.

00:03:35.000 The problem is, Obama and others, they want a VAT on every level, on top of the income tax.

00:03:42.000 Yes, this is the problem.

00:03:43.000 You've got to throw the income tax out.

00:03:44.000 It was founded, and it's the predicate of the communist platform, of Karl Marx.

00:03:48.000 And it's done just that.

00:03:50.000 It's made a dependent society over here.

00:03:52.000 It's penalized work, and that's the last thing that the founders wanted.

00:03:56.000 The reason we have the 16th Amendment, Alex, is when we first started the income tax, which, by the way, was only supposed to be on the rich people.

00:04:03.000 It was taken to the Supreme Court, and it was struck down as unconstitutional.

00:04:08.000 As a result, we have this 16th Amendment, and some people feel that it wasn't adequately ratified to boot, and that maybe we shouldn't repeal the 16th Amendment.

00:04:16.000 We should just disregard it because it wasn't, in fact, lawful.

00:04:20.000 But I think, let's be safe.

00:04:21.000 Let's repeal the 16th Amendment. 0.95

00:04:23.000 Abolish the IRS.

00:04:24.000 We don't need a Department of Energy.

00:04:26.000 We don't need a Department of Education.

00:04:28.000 There's too damn much government here, Alex.

00:04:30.000 And what we don't need is we don't need more taxes on top of income taxes.

00:04:35.000 James Traficant, stay there.

00:04:37.000 Quick break, coming back with a long segment, talking about a host of issues and the demonization of the Tea Parties all over the news, saying they're racist, they're terrorists.

00:04:46.000 Bill Clinton says that there's going to be another Oklahoma City and it's going to be the fault of the American people.

00:04:54.000 We'll see what James Traficant says about that.

00:04:56.000 Congressman, stay with us.

00:05:00.000 Hello, this is Alex Jones with some important questions.

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00:05:20.000 Can you buy it without proper identification?

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00:05:24.000 Will it make your children sick?

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00:05:31.000 You wipe out all these problems if you have a good food supply.

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00:08:09.000 James Traficant, former congressman, is our guest.

00:08:13.000 I've researched his case.

00:08:14.000 It's even been on national news.

00:08:15.000 They've admitted he was completely railroaded, set up, mainly because he was criticizing foreign aid, period, and foreign aid to Israel, and they told him they were going to get him.

00:08:27.000 And we had Jane Graham, Oklahoma City bombing survivor, she's on the ninth floor on last week. 0.99

00:08:32.000 She saw McVeigh and other feds planting gray sticks of butter, didn't know what they were.

00:08:37.000 She brought this info to Congress, they wouldn't talk to her.

00:08:39.000 The only person that would look at the information was James Traficant.

00:08:43.000 And she said she talked to James Traficant's assistant in his office.

00:08:46.000 She said, yeah, they came and said, give us those documents back.

00:08:51.000 I'll be filing this coming Monday as an independent in one of two districts, I'm not sure.

00:08:54.000 But that was one of many reasons they went after him.

00:08:56.000 But we'll talk about that today.

00:08:58.000 But continuing with your campaign, you're running for Congress again.

00:09:02.000 You are going to file.

00:09:03.000 Tell us about that, Congressman.

00:09:05.000 I'll be filing this coming Monday as an independent in one of two districts.

00:09:09.000 I'm not sure.

00:09:10.000 Because when I went to art school, if you will, Alex, they split the district up into three ways to make sure I could never come back.

00:09:18.000 So I basically have no money.

00:09:21.000 But I think money plays too much a part in politics anyway.

00:09:24.000 I think it's time for somebody without a lot of money just to put the hay where the ghost can reach it and tell the people what's going on and run, and run the old-fashioned way.

00:09:34.000 Well, you've certainly got a lot of name recognition and a lot of people love you and your state there and know that you were railroaded.

00:09:40.000 We talked about that some last time, but perhaps because we have a new audience tuning in all the time, recap what happened to you and then we're going to get into some of the current things that are happening and get your take on it, like U.S.

00:09:52.000 Army trains to confront Tea Party terrorists.

00:09:55.000 This is confirmed.

00:09:56.000 We have their internal training manuals where they prepare for gun confiscation and war against the American people.

00:10:01.000 But first, recapping your railroading.

00:10:04.000 Well, you know, number one, several of the people that were involved already now admitted they were pressured to lie.

00:10:09.000 There's a young man in Nigeria, a young black man, that filed an affidavit with the Nigerian government, Mr. Okolo, that his life was ruined because he wouldn't perjure himself against trafficking.

00:10:19.000 Bottom line, it was a six-year investigation, $15 million, over 250 agents, on or about the time, Alex, that the Trade Center and the Pentagon were being attacked.

00:10:30.000 And the government voluntarily stated at this trial that they made no tapes on me at all.

00:10:35.000 And now it's come out, and I can't prove it yet, but it's all over that they burned boxes and boxes of tapes because there was no physical evidence.

00:10:42.000 They had seven people that said they bribed me.

00:10:44.000 Three of them already recanted.

00:10:46.000 The two major charges were dropped because those people admitted before trial they were pressured to lie.

00:10:51.000 So now the prosecutors are working for an insurance company somewhere in Ohio, and they're scared to death.

00:10:57.000 And I want to say this on your show.

00:10:59.000 I want some whistleblower to come forward and confirm that they burned boxes and boxes of tapes they made on Jim Trafkin over a six-year investigation.

00:11:07.000 Because the reason why they said they had no tapes, Alex, is I could use their own tapes against them and say, where's the crime?

00:11:13.000 So now I think they're showing it.

00:11:15.000 I think it's coming out.

00:11:16.000 I think most people realize what happened.

00:11:18.000 And remember, I'm the guy that brought John Demonyik back home from Israel, who was on death row for being Ivan the Terrible. 0.59

00:11:24.000 And maybe this is exclusive on your show today, Alex.

00:11:27.000 That John Demonyuk from Germany on trial now has requested of his family and his defense that they bring me into Germany relative to this trial.

00:11:38.000 And if I am subpoenaed, I am going to Germany.

00:11:40.000 So that's an exclusive for you, Alex.

00:11:43.000 And to recap that, the Israeli Supreme Court said you were right, you got him the documents, he was not the guy, we know who he was, looked nothing like this individual, and then still, the US government grabs him and sends him to Germany, when Israel said he's innocent!

00:11:59.000 Yes, and you know what's amazing, Alex?

00:12:00.000 I must give Israel credit for this. 0.92

00:12:02.000 Their Supreme Court took my evidence.

00:12:05.000 The U.S.

00:12:05.000 courts wouldn't accept it.

00:12:06.000 Congress wouldn't hold a hearing because they said it's too sensitive.

00:12:09.000 And Alex, what I said is, when this sensitivity, quote-unquote sensitivity, waived the Bill of Rights, my God, what happened to us?

00:12:16.000 When you endanger the right of one American, you endanger the rights of all Americans.

00:12:20.000 So, what's happening now, and I want this also as an update on your program, Israel would not convene a trial on this new matter.

00:12:29.000 So they had to go to Germany.

00:12:31.000 Our government is just trying to cover their tracks.

00:12:33.000 Alex, they should be charged with attempted murder.

00:12:36.000 They knew this man wasn't Ivan.

00:12:38.000 And they suborned perjury, they obstructed justice, and they've got away with it.

00:12:42.000 They've gotten away with this, Alex.

00:12:44.000 And they know he's ill.

00:12:45.000 It's official oppression.

00:12:47.000 I mean, they know he's innocent.

00:12:49.000 They're just doing this.

00:12:50.000 They're hoping he dies before there can even be a trial.

00:12:53.000 They're trying to cover up for what they did in the past.

00:12:55.000 Just remember this, Alex.

00:12:56.000 The documents that I got that took him off a death row after being convicted were Justice Department documents.

00:13:05.000 And the Justice Department knew that he was not the guy?

00:13:07.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.

00:13:08.000 This is out of hand.

00:13:09.000 We need a mechanism.

00:13:11.000 We need a mechanism, Alex.

00:13:13.000 We need a mechanism where the FBI and the Justice Department can be, in fact, tried.

00:13:20.000 One of my last bills was the Fair Justice Act.

00:13:22.000 The President would nominate, the Senate would confirm for a 10-year term, the Director of the Fair Justice Agency would have only one duty, Alex, and that would be to investigate and prosecute crimes within the Justice Department.

00:13:33.000 My God, we got a police state coming at us!

00:13:36.000 We've got a government that, we're basically economic slaves here.

00:13:40.000 And no one's really looking at it seriously.

00:13:42.000 That's why I'm giving you credit.

00:13:44.000 You're going out on a limb.

00:13:46.000 And I remember telling Connie Chung about Pan Am 103, be very careful how you handle Pan Am 103.

00:13:52.000 And she did an hour special on the confidential report I got.

00:13:57.000 And all I want to say is this, a couple weeks later she was never seen on TV again.

00:14:02.000 You are a very courageous guy, and I've been following you.

00:14:06.000 And I know that there are many people in the government that are very upset because you are educating the American people.

00:14:13.000 And American people have been dumbed down.

00:14:15.000 Dumbed down through a mainstream media that has, in fact, aided and abetted this government, and I don't understand why.

00:14:21.000 Jim Traficant is our guest.

00:14:23.000 Congressman, I don't want to talk about myself, but I am in the middle of this and I want to ask your advice.

00:14:29.000 The ADL, the Southern Property Law Center, in the last six months or so have put out multiple reports apiece.

00:14:36.000 They're now even saying Ron Paul is a terrorist enabler.

00:14:42.000 They're saying Judge Napolitano is an extremist terrorist enabler.

00:14:45.000 The MIAC Homeland Security reports that law enforcement sent us over a year ago say that gun owners, conservatives, returning veterans, I'm sure you've seen that in the news.

00:14:52.000 Now we've gotten Army documents and we've confirmed that they're following us around in the Fed rallies.

00:14:58.000 Uh, we've confirmed that, uh, in these briefings for the military, they project my photo up and, like, I'm the kingpin, or the, or the godfather, and, and say that I want cops to die, and that I want the milit- it just all lies, and the national news, Nightline, you name it, have been down here, CNN, I mean, I mean, the list goes on and on, and they keep saying on the news, and George Soros' outfit keeps saying, I'm calling for violence, when it's the opposite.

00:15:25.000 What does that sound like to you?

00:15:27.000 I mean, are they really getting ready to set me up?

00:15:28.000 Well, it sounds to me as if you're a great American, and you're making touch and contact with the average American, and they don't like it.

00:15:36.000 Let me just say this, Alex.

00:15:38.000 There's no doubt that you're doing that.

00:15:40.000 Now, here's what you have to be concerned about.

00:15:42.000 That any technicality could be brought against you, and my God, they can be very vicious.

00:15:47.000 But let me say this.

00:15:48.000 I think this is a badge of honor.

00:15:51.000 My name was mentioned one time in an IRS review that said the American people shouldn't listen to Congressman Jim Travagan.

00:15:57.000 He's just anti-government.

00:15:58.000 And that was one of the biggest compliments I ever received.

00:16:02.000 And I think this is a compliment to you because I think it shows you as a leader.

00:16:06.000 Now the downside is I don't like what they're doing to this Tea Party.

00:16:09.000 These are average American people.

00:16:10.000 They don't want to blow anything up, and they're not going out there and acting violently, and Alex Jones is not recommending that anybody go out and cause any violence or revolution in this country, and anybody with a bright mind and a reasonable mind understands that.

00:16:24.000 But, what they're trying to do is stop this movement, and the reason for it is very simple.

00:16:28.000 The American people are fed up, and they should be.

00:16:31.000 They should be fed up.

00:16:32.000 And I think what you're doing is you're articulating the reasons why they're fed up.

00:16:37.000 The problem with the Tea Party to a degree is they're so upset but they don't really understand the total dimension of why they're upset.

00:16:44.000 And number one, they're just opposing rather than advocating as well.

00:16:48.000 But I think they're starting to evolve now, Alex.

00:16:51.000 With leadership that they're hearing from individuals like yourself, and from commentary made by you and some others, that they're starting to look and say, look, here's what we've got to do now.

00:17:01.000 Here's what must be done in the country.

00:17:02.000 And I think what we have underway is a powerful political revolution taking place in the United States of America, and I believe the powers that be are trying to stop it. 0.73

00:17:12.000 They're trying to say that these people are radical, they're racist, they're bigots.

00:17:16.000 I've been hit with the anti-Semite business, the racist business, the bigot business, but listen to what I stand for. 1.00

00:17:23.000 If you're an illegal immigrant in this country, you're not just an immigrant, you're an illegal immigrant and you should be thrown the hell out. 1.00

00:17:30.000 Enough is enough. 0.95

00:17:31.000 And we shouldn't be paying healthcare to take care of people that are driving our costs up.

00:17:35.000 So that makes me a bigot?

00:17:37.000 Look, that's just the way it is.

00:17:38.000 If you're an Hispanic American, you're a friend of mine. 0.98

00:17:41.000 If you're an illegal immigrant, I don't care what nationality you are, you're not a friend of mine and you should be thrown out. 1.00

00:17:47.000 And we've got to do something about that to take care of our borders. 0.93

00:17:50.000 I really feel sorry what's going on in Arizona and the way they're depicting Arizona.

00:17:54.000 You know, I am the Congressman, Alex, that passed putting 10,000 soldiers on our border and keeping people out and keeping drugs out.

00:18:01.000 And listen, these soldiers are overseas in Germany and in Japan and in Korea.

00:18:07.000 They're going to the theater and going to lunch.

00:18:09.000 They're guarding the borders in the Mideast.

00:18:11.000 And God, our borders are wide open!

00:18:13.000 What kind of national security and homeland security does America have?

00:18:17.000 This is a joke?

00:18:19.000 Both of these parties are...

00:18:21.000 Basically, trying to seduce this growing minority population of Hispanics into a voting bloc.

00:18:28.000 And it's larger now than the African-American community.

00:18:31.000 Enough is enough.

00:18:32.000 Let's take care of our government.

00:18:34.000 Call us what you want.

00:18:35.000 But I just pray to God that you just continue to do what you're doing.

00:18:39.000 The reason they're focusing on you is you're effective.

00:18:44.000 And that's the reason they focused on you, and that's what's scary.

00:18:47.000 I don't want to go to prison with them setting me up for something.

00:18:49.000 Well, don't think that that's forelone.

00:18:53.000 Here's the thing I could be concerned about.

00:18:55.000 You know, I don't know what your relationship is with your network, but there'll be people behind the scenes trying to take that microphone away from you because you're having an impact.

00:19:04.000 I know it.

00:19:04.000 Let me tell you how I know about it.

00:19:07.000 I can't explain to you how many times people have said to me, I heard your comments on the Alex Jones Show.

00:19:13.000 I'm very proud of you.

00:19:14.000 I agree with you.

00:19:16.000 Thank you for doing the Alex Jones Show.

00:19:18.000 We think Alex does a great job.

00:19:20.000 We were surprised you were on there.

00:19:22.000 Some people may be afraid to be on there, and they say, we don't know why, but we're glad you were on there, Jim.

00:19:27.000 And people, but the bottom line is, I've heard this all over.

00:19:30.000 People commenting about this everywhere I go, Alex.

00:19:33.000 So you're reaching people, and I think you're You're reaching people with an intelligent approach, and there's certainly no doubt in my mind you're not advocating any type of violence or anything.

00:19:45.000 None of us are.

00:19:45.000 Congressman, thank you for your kind words on that subject and your advice.

00:19:48.000 Let's come back in to get into some other issues, but continue to discuss where you see this nation going and talk about Oklahoma City 15 years later.

00:19:55.000 We'll be right back with James Traficant.

00:20:01.000 Remain in your houses. 0.96

00:20:03.000 The President of the United States has declared martial law under Executive Order 11004.

00:20:09.000 Will they do it?

00:20:11.000 Will they pull the trigger this time?

00:20:13.000 We all pray they stand down, but an engineered crisis seems more likely with each passing day.

00:20:20.000 Think it can't happen here?

00:20:22.000 Executive Order 10-990 locks down all highways.

00:20:26.000 Executive Order 10-995 seizes control of all media outlets.

00:20:31.000 Executive Order 10-998 controls all farms and food supplies.

00:20:36.000 All these executive orders are now cocked, loaded, and waiting for the right crisis.

00:20:42.000 So if you're worried about the possibility of martial law here in America, or have questions about how to survive it, go to MartialLawSurvival.com.

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00:20:56.000 You must remain in your houses until your bracelets are scanned.

00:21:00.000 They helped to create a New World Order. 0.99

00:21:02.000 We are part of a New World Order.

00:21:05.000 A New World Order based upon collective action.

00:21:08.000 Invisible Empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.

00:21:13.000 The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.

00:21:17.000 It means all the world under their control.

00:21:20.000 The United Nations would take over America.

00:21:23.000 The Trilateral Commission would control the world.

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00:24:11.000 Mexico has collapsed because of their phony drug war. 0.82

00:24:15.000 It's totally criminal. 0.76

00:24:16.000 There's murders, ranchers being killed, Texas, Arizona.

00:24:20.000 I mean, it's a mess.

00:24:21.000 And then, meanwhile, Washington Post.

00:24:22.000 Human rights observers killed in attack in Mexico.

00:24:25.000 And it talks about all over Mexico, they're shutting the power and water off to Indian groups that live down there.

00:24:30.000 Mexico's very racist towards the Indian population.

00:24:33.000 I don't know why.

00:24:34.000 I mean, the folks in Mexico are Indian and Spanish, mainly.

00:24:38.000 And some Germans that immigrated there during the colonial system.

00:24:42.000 And then here's another one.

00:24:43.000 Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse pledges changes.

00:24:46.000 I mean, they don't give free welfare to any people.

00:24:48.000 They arrest illegals instantly. 0.97

00:24:51.000 I as an American can't go down there with my wife and have a baby and have it all paid for.

00:24:56.000 I mean, this is a sick joke, Congressman.

00:24:58.000 Absolutely Alex, you're right on target.

00:25:00.000 I think we even have to change the Constitution.

00:25:03.000 If someone comes across our border illegally for the purpose of having a child and having an American citizen, I think that should be changed and the citizenship should be denied and the woman should be removed from the country. 1.00

00:25:14.000 Enough is enough.

00:25:15.000 No one realizes, you know, we had a case up here in Northeast Ohio, just real quick Alex.

00:25:19.000 Where a fella went in with a card and got a surgery on his pancreas.

00:25:24.000 And ten days later, another fella came in with the same card to get surgery, and they did the surgery.

00:25:29.000 They didn't realize it until they checked the paperwork.

00:25:31.000 And they were both illegal, can't find them, and did two particular surgeries that the American people, our people up here, ended up paying for.

00:25:39.000 I mean, this is in our own backyard.

00:25:41.000 Now, imagine what this is like in voting booths with fake IDs, fake driver's licenses, fake Social Security cards.

00:25:48.000 It's gone too far.

00:25:49.000 And now we're talking about, we're talking about making citizens amnesty out of illegals who jump the fence.

00:25:57.000 My God, Alex, this is putting a neon sign right on the border saying, hey, jump the fence and eventually you become an American citizen.

00:26:05.000 Well, the feds are financing illegal checkpoints to the states everywhere.

00:26:09.000 All this Arizona law says is that if they have suspicion and then you're an illegal, when they pull you over for drunk driving or whatever it is, that the state's going to take you to the feds.

00:26:18.000 I mean, all that's doing is enforcing the law.

00:26:20.000 Since when are states not supposed to, you know, if they catch somebody committing a federal crime, to not arrest them?

00:26:26.000 Amen.

00:26:26.000 It's the United States of America, not the federal government of America.

00:26:29.000 And let me say this on your show.

00:26:31.000 I support the Arizona law.

00:26:33.000 Because the reason for the Arizona machination is simple.

00:26:36.000 The federal government has failed to act on behalf of the American people.

00:26:40.000 The federal government's job is for national security.

00:26:43.000 And how the hell can you have national security with a border that's not secure?

00:26:48.000 Someone tell me that.

00:26:49.000 So, I support.

00:26:51.000 I support what they're doing in Arizona, and they've got to stand up This is a microcosm of the failed policies of America.

00:26:57.000 Bring the American people's attention to it.

00:26:59.000 Now, the mainstream media is making Arizona look like racists, look like bigots, and they're going to lose conventions, and they're going to lose money.

00:27:07.000 Look, the bottom line is the federal government has caused this problem for Arizona and for all these border states.

00:27:13.000 The federal government should be taking the brunt of the attack.

00:27:16.000 That's why they don't like Alex Jones, and that's why they don't like Jim Travigan.

00:27:20.000 Because the truth of the matter is very plain for us to see.

00:27:23.000 The federal government has failed to secure our borders.

00:27:25.000 How can you have a homeland security border programmed with a border wide open, Alex?

00:27:30.000 Well, what do you think about Obama announcing yesterday he's sending SWAT teams to, quote, all the oil rigs, and some Reagan administration officials are on record saying they believe this is greasing the skids for the feds nationalizing oil.

00:27:46.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

00:27:47.000 The way the country's going, we've nationalized everything.

00:27:50.000 Just keep this in mind.

00:27:51.000 General Motors, government motor stock, is now trading at 27 cents a share.

00:27:58.000 Let's be honest about this.

00:27:59.000 We have buoyed up a false economic illusion here.

00:28:02.000 All these new hires they're talking about, Alex, were census workers.

00:28:06.000 Now you've got a health bill with, listen to this, 159 new boards, programs, and entities to be created.

00:28:13.000 More IRS enforcement plus an additional 16,500 IRS employees to be hired at a cost of 1.7 trillion dollars.

00:28:23.000 All these jobs, we have more government workers and factory workers already and this is a false illusion.

00:28:29.000 I think the best thing that could be done is the states have got to put their foot down here and that we have no more states right.

00:28:36.000 They're background music in a doctor's office, and maybe Arizona will highlight the issue of the United States of America.

00:28:43.000 Remember, there used to be a nation known as USSR, and now they broke up.

00:28:48.000 Don't think we can't implode, and I predict that.

00:28:51.000 I predict, unless there's a direct intended change in taxes that starts to reward work, that we're going to implode.

00:28:57.000 It's just a matter of time.

00:28:59.000 Well, you got the federal government calling for carbon taxes, but then China and India and Mexico and others don't have to have the carbon taxes.

00:29:06.000 I mean, that will kill the economy.

00:29:08.000 Why does the federal government want to kill the economy? 0.98

00:29:10.000 You know what, Alex?

00:29:11.000 What's really funny is the reports in the house say, the forensic reports say, that most of the carbon problems in America are brought in from the trade winds from the Far East.

00:29:21.000 From China and Japan! 0.96

00:29:22.000 And these countries don't want to do anything about their carbon emissions.

00:29:27.000 I think, look, I think it's time for us to say we can handle our economic problems, and the world can handle theirs too, but good fences make good board, make good friends.

00:29:38.000 Stay there, stay there.

00:29:39.000 Jim Travacant, former congressman of Ohio, is our guest.

00:29:42.000 We'll talk about Oklahoma City straight ahead, and a lot more in his campaign, how you can get involved in it, getting back in Congress.

00:29:50.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

00:29:53.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:33:24.000 We're going to be going back to him here in just a moment and talk about Oklahoma City and some other subjects and also take some phone calls for the Congressman and they can also talk about the The experiences they've had with law enforcement and the military being militarized to go up against the American people.

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00:35:07.000 Going back to Jim Trafficant.

00:35:08.000 Jim, Oklahoma City, I mean, take us back to 1995.

00:35:12.000 And again, the reason I bring this up is, I mean, you've been involved in everything I investigate.

00:35:17.000 If it's exposing tyranny, you find Jim Traficant there.

00:35:20.000 I didn't even know that no member of Congress would talk to her and other survivors of that horrible bombing, that she saw the feds in there, what she later learned, planting bombs with telephone wire and gray sticks of butter in the weeks before, including Tim McVeigh and others.

00:35:36.000 Uh, and that when she and others brought you this information, that you were the only person that would look at it, and that she said that your staff said that you were threatened to shut up about it, but that you wouldn't shut up.

00:35:48.000 So give us your take on what happened there.

00:35:52.000 Number one, I don't think there's any way that that truckload of fertilizer that exploded outside could have had the type of impact internally that showed from that.

00:36:04.000 And immediately, I had my doubts.

00:36:06.000 What's amazing about it is, the reason I was the only one, is Congress is afraid.

00:36:11.000 Most members of Congress don't want to get involved in anything.

00:36:14.000 First of all, they're made to look like a kook if you do. 1.00

00:36:16.000 Second of all, they're made to look like you're un-American if you do, because they're going to have the mainstream press against you.

00:36:21.000 But since the Demonia case, everybody would rely on me, and I got most of the information.

00:36:26.000 What I found out, and what I felt would happen in Oklahoma City, that there was much broader conspiracy and activity involved there, and I wouldn't be surprised, for some reason, that there were complications that involved government and government officials as well.

00:36:40.000 That's what my deduction was.

00:36:42.000 But I couldn't get to first base with anything, Alex, and you have to understand, you have to have something concrete, which I was able to develop in the Demoniuk case.

00:36:51.000 They couldn't get around the evidence, but I had to send it to an Israeli Supreme Court to get anything done with it.

00:36:56.000 So you could imagine the problem I was getting trying to get and garner and glean more information relative to the Oklahoma City bombing.

00:37:05.000 But what I can say is this.

00:37:08.000 There's a lot more to it.

00:37:09.000 And I don't believe anything anymore the government is telling the American people.

00:37:14.000 I don't want to get involved in the 9-1-1 issue.

00:37:16.000 But I have my doubts about 9-1-1 as well.

00:37:18.000 Now remember, I got the demonic information and I got the actual factual information on Pan Am 103.

00:37:26.000 And I know exactly what happened to Pan Am 103.

00:37:29.000 And it's not what our government said happened.

00:37:31.000 Tell us what happened with Pan Am 103.

00:37:33.000 The report I got was an intelligence report that said a man named Ahmed Jibril and Manzour Al-Qassar were hired by Iran to respond to America's shooting down of that Iranian Airbus, if you recall that.

00:37:45.000 Yes.

00:37:45.000 And they put together an international team and they couldn't find a target.

00:37:50.000 And Manzour Al-Qassar, who shipped heroin from the Golden Triangles to New York through Frankfurt, Started to see Ahmed Jibril's people around Frankfurt Airport. 0.66

00:38:04.000 And supposedly he was worried it was going to ruin his gravy train, and there was an anonymous call made warning there's going to be a terrorist act around the airport, but there was no increase in security to more or less chase Ahmed Jibril away.

00:38:18.000 The bottom line is the plane went down over Lockerbie.

00:38:21.000 It was supposed to go down over the ocean, but wind drift took it over Lockerbie.

00:38:25.000 Here's the things I could tell you.

00:38:26.000 Number one, there was an anonymous call made at Frankfurt International with no increase in security.

00:38:32.000 And second of all, two weeks after the incident, first President Bush asked for Ahmed Jibril to be extradited to the United States and Syria denied it.

00:38:42.000 Manjreel Qasr was the biggest heroin man and he made his living Shipping to America.

00:38:51.000 Now, what the report said was that he was influential, Alex, in getting French hostages released from Iran, and he was working with the CIA Lebanon office to get American hostages.

00:39:02.000 At the time, I believe there were eight there, Alex.

00:39:05.000 It said that there was nothing good happening, so the CIA sent a team to see what was going on, headed by an Army Major McKee from Pittsburgh on leave to the CIA.

00:39:15.000 Alex, all of those five CIA agents and Major McKee were killed on that 103 flight but what it was is our government The report says, covered up the truthful incident, because the American people knew that heroin was being overlooked because this valuable asset, Monserrat Casar, did be a revolution over here.

00:39:39.000 So the first thing the government said is trafficking is anti-government, CIA said it's nonsense, and naturally no one went with it, but Connie Chung went with it.

00:39:47.000 And the truth of the matter was, they end up arresting these two Libyans, one of them was even released. 0.65

00:39:52.000 And believe me, if they were guilty, they'd have choked on a chicken bone over there in Qaddafi's prison. 0.87

00:39:57.000 This is the truth of what happened in 103.

00:39:59.000 So I didn't have the time to look into 911, but I'll tell you this.

00:40:03.000 I was starting to get reports, Alec.

00:40:06.000 People were starting to confide in me.

00:40:08.000 And what I don't like is, I don't believe the Commission.

00:40:11.000 I didn't believe the Warren Commission, and I didn't believe the Commission On 9-1-1.

00:40:17.000 I believe these commissions are nothing more than to ensure that there's no reprisals and repercussions from the American people.

00:40:24.000 And I think that's why they're concerned about you.

00:40:26.000 I think you're exposing these things.

00:40:28.000 And I think America's better off if we know the truth.

00:40:31.000 We know the truth about our government.

00:40:33.000 And this is where I think the problem is.

00:40:35.000 The American people don't trust the government anymore.

00:40:38.000 And I see a tremendous upheaval.

00:40:40.000 I see an American political revolution.

00:40:43.000 Now, maybe 2010 may not be the actual fulcrum for that occurring, but it's not far off, Alex.

00:40:51.000 You're going to see a tremendous upheaval in this country where the American people are going to respond to this illegal immigration issue, this so-called cap-and-trade type issue, this big government healthcare issue with 159 new boards, and going to, in fact, In fact, ensure almost 50 million illegal immigrants. 0.67

00:41:11.000 There's a hell of a lot more than 12 to 15 illegals in this country, Alex. 1.00

00:41:15.000 When the truth comes out, I think you're going to, the American people are going to revolt.

00:41:19.000 But I think it's going to be a peaceful revolution, and let me say this.

00:41:23.000 I know that you've never advocated violence, but you are advocating that the American people take a stand.

00:41:29.000 Now what bothers me is, they're trying to paint this Tea Party as something sinister, and it's not.

00:41:35.000 You know what bothers me more than that is all these politicians keep saying, we need you to vote, we need you to get involved in government.

00:41:41.000 Well, here's a group that's getting involved.

00:41:43.000 They're getting very involved.

00:41:45.000 And everybody's saying, whoa, we don't want you to be involved.

00:41:48.000 Well, it's what they're calling for.

00:41:49.000 I mean, they're calling for lower taxes, abolish the Federal Reserve, have national sovereignty, defend our borders, defend the Second Amendment, do what this country was built on to be Americans.

00:42:00.000 And that was the question I was about to bring back up.

00:42:03.000 Bill Clinton and others go on TV and say, gee, I hope there isn't another Oklahoma City caused by the Tea Parties, but I'm afraid it's going to happen.

00:42:12.000 The only card that criminal elements of the government can play is to stage a terror attack, another Oklahoma City in this country, to go after the American people.

00:42:21.000 And I see them framing myself by name, but the entire Tea Party and Libertarians and Ron Paul Alex is very unfortunate.

00:42:29.000 I've said this without disrespect, but I'm going to say it right here on your show.

00:42:31.000 Plus two equals four to me.

00:42:33.000 I mean, the only card they can play is a staged terror attack.

00:42:36.000 Alex is very unfortunate.

00:42:38.000 Now, I've said this without disrespect, but I'm going to say it right here on your show.

00:42:42.000 They don't call Clinton slick willy for nothing.

00:42:44.000 The Democrats are worried.

00:42:46.000 They're worried that the American people are going to take their venom out on the party in power, as they did years ago, when they threw Hastert and the Republicans out.

00:42:54.000 Truth of the matter is, both of these parties have been compromised.

00:42:57.000 I talked about it on the Greta Van Susteren Show.

00:43:00.000 I talked about it on your show.

00:43:01.000 I've been labeled an anti-Semite.

00:43:03.000 We have basically a foreign nation, Israel, who's controlling the American Congress.

00:43:08.000 They've got us in two wars and have bankrupted us.

00:43:10.000 And now, we're in a situation where the American people are saying, why are our kids coming back in body bags?

00:43:16.000 What are we doing over there?

00:43:18.000 Why are we continuing to go bankrupt with these wars?

00:43:21.000 Now they're starting to sense that the American people don't even control their Congress, which they don't.

00:43:26.000 This is the tragedy here.

00:43:28.000 But to have former President Clinton, who is still very popular, come out and say, my God, if something bad is going to happen, because this Tea Party, this Tea Party can produce some bad things.

00:43:39.000 If there's anything bad that happened, it's because the American people are totally disgusted.

00:43:43.000 A man who flew his plane into an IRS building in Texas, a man who bulldozed his home in Ohio because he was tired at the bank.

00:43:52.000 This is what's happening.

00:43:53.000 You're seeing the American people react because their government is failing to address the problems that exist in the country.

00:44:00.000 Period.

00:44:01.000 I agree with you, and there's lots of things happening that are real, but if you look at the preconditioning and the buildup and even the Hattari militia, we've documented that was a total federal setup with people inside provocateuring them to shoot their mouths off, and so they're having these busts to create this background story that, oh look, the gun owners are about to attack, and we know, we have the documents, That they're training the military for gun confiscation.

00:44:28.000 We've had the mayor of Schenectady, New York.

00:44:30.000 We've had house reps in the legislature of Illinois and others calling for troops on the streets.

00:44:38.000 I mean, this is getting really creepy.

00:44:40.000 Well, let me tell you, the politicians should be calling for troops.

00:44:42.000 Troops on the border.

00:44:44.000 To stay off of the American people. 0.94

00:44:45.000 And that second amendment wasn't protect duck hunters.

00:44:48.000 It was to protect the American people from the government.

00:44:51.000 And let me tell you something, they're bringing this on themselves.

00:44:54.000 But the good thing that's happening is all these issues are now coming to light, Alex.

00:44:59.000 They're coming to light because you, as a leader, you as a leader, and there are others out there, but they're not as strong.

00:45:06.000 This is what I'm saying to you.

00:45:08.000 Now you have to be very careful.

00:45:10.000 They will make some technicality into a major cardinal crime.

00:45:14.000 That's the way it works.

00:45:16.000 So I think you having heard these comments, I think you know that.

00:45:20.000 You're very No, I know, and I'm very aware of it, and I appreciate you talking about it.

00:45:23.000 I mean, I never intended to have this big of an effect.

00:45:26.000 I mean, I wanted to have an effect, but I didn't know I'd get in a position where there's so many of these documents that are saying, there's the enemy, get him, get him.

00:45:32.000 But I've talked to so many troops that have called me and sent us information.

00:45:36.000 They say that's why the troops and police then tune into the show, because they're told, don't listen to Alex Jones, he's bad. 0.99

00:45:42.000 I mean, the government is smart at certain levels, but it's also stupid. 0.99

00:45:48.000 Alex, you know the amazing thing? 0.98

00:45:49.000 When I brought John Demonik home, I got a number of calls sorted just like this.

00:45:54.000 Just listen.

00:45:55.000 Good job, Congressman.

00:45:56.000 We're proud of you.

00:45:57.000 Hang up.

00:45:58.000 Good job, Congressman. 0.99

00:45:59.000 Hang up.

00:46:00.000 The reason those calls were so quick is they were coming from the Justice Department.

00:46:05.000 Believe me, the people in the government knew what they did to Dominic.

00:46:09.000 There's a lot of people in the government don't like what's going on, Alec.

00:46:12.000 There's a lot of people in the government that are listening to you.

00:46:15.000 Now, the problem is we're starting to get all this militia talk.

00:46:18.000 We need militia because we've got all these groups that are establishing.

00:46:21.000 Look, all of the government's troops should be concentrating on securing our borders, getting us out of these wars overseas that have bankrupted us, and take care of America's issues.

00:46:32.000 They shouldn't be targeting American people, and that's what they're doing.

00:46:36.000 And what I don't like about it is if you look at the Tea Party, the Tea Party are basically frustrated Americans, but they're Republicans and they're Democrats.

00:46:44.000 They voted for Republican presidents, and they voted for Democrat presidents.

00:46:48.000 And what they're saying, loud and clear, and everybody's trying to dilute it because they're afraid that the party in power is going to be removed.

00:46:55.000 And that's where President Clinton come in.

00:46:58.000 I think it's very unfortunate that he made that statement, but I'm going to make this statement on the Alex Jones Show.

00:47:05.000 They don't call him Slick Willie for nothing. 1.00

00:47:08.000 And I made that statement on a Robert Novak show when the IRS threatened a veto of the IRS reform bill because of the trafficking language that changed the burden of proof.

00:47:18.000 And I said on the Robert Novak show that President Clinton isn't called Slick Willy for nothing.

00:47:23.000 He could sign the bill and help the American taxpayers or he could veto the bill and help a few IRS agents and he signed the bill.

00:47:31.000 And that's the type of pressure we need to put back.

00:47:33.000 President Clinton should not have made that statement.

00:47:36.000 He should reverse that statement.

00:47:39.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:47:40.000 This is what I'm saying.

00:47:42.000 Disregard that statement.

00:47:43.000 That's a political statement.

00:47:45.000 That's not a national security statement, and it's unfortunate.

00:47:49.000 Let me bring up another issue.

00:47:50.000 I'm going to take a few calls for you and also give out your address for people that want to support your campaign or physically get involved.

00:47:55.000 You're filing Monday.

00:47:56.000 We want to have you back as that unfolds.

00:47:58.000 You're very gracious with your time, sir.

00:48:00.000 Again, Jim Travagant joining us. 0.95

00:48:03.000 It has come out that a lot of Republicans and Democrats are gay. 0.94

00:48:07.000 And I'm not attacking him for that, but that they're being blackmailed, like if they're a drug dealer or they're taking bribes. 0.87

00:48:13.000 There's a lot of different ways you can get compromised.

00:48:15.000 And the word from really good sources is Obama's being compromised and blackmailed, that Congressman Lindsey Graham was.

00:48:22.000 They had a valley pack, which is a very serious, focused guy who I've been watching for over a decade.

00:48:28.000 I've never heard Mr. Gein say something that wasn't true.

00:48:31.000 He says he's got it down pat that Lindsey Graham is just running around basically all over the place, you know, in the streets, cruising, and that they're blackmailing him.

00:48:40.000 Five days after that information was released, Graham said, I'm not doing immigration reform.

00:48:46.000 I'm not going for the carbon tax.

00:48:48.000 He said, I'm done, and how big a problem is black male in Congress for congressmen and women who really are involved in hanky-panky?

00:48:58.000 It's very big, Alex.

00:48:59.000 Now look, I can't speak on any individual case, but again, as I got personal information, remember I'm the fellow on the House floor that said that Janet Reno was a lesbian and she was controlled by organized crime who had photographs of her with young women.

00:49:17.000 Now, I was protected by the Speech and Debate Clause, but I went on again, a national TV show, the Robert Novak Show, and I re-edited those statements, and I said, go ahead, Janet.

00:49:28.000 I'm not protected by the Speech and Debate Clause.

00:49:31.000 Take me to court, because maybe now we'll find out why you will not allow an investigation in $10 million from a red Chinese army general that went to President Clinton's campaign fund.

00:49:44.000 And I never heard a word from her.

00:49:45.000 Now, they put me in prison!

00:49:47.000 But listen to what I'm telling you.

00:49:49.000 She was controlled.

00:49:51.000 The Attorney General of the United States was controlled.

00:49:54.000 The CIA and anybody listening to this, the FBI, come on and pick up Jim Travigan.

00:49:58.000 I'm on probation. 0.86

00:49:59.000 Right here on the Alex Jones Show, I'm saying that she was a lesbian. 1.00

00:50:03.000 She was, in fact, appointed an assistant prosecutor in Dade County, the cocaine capital of America.

00:50:09.000 She was ultimately, after the prosecutor resigned, appointed the prosecutor, then won re-election.

00:50:16.000 Now, that's one I knew about, but I can guarantee you there are people in Washington that are afraid to say anything because of their background.

00:50:27.000 There are people who are afraid, and this is the thing I don't like.

00:50:32.000 Congressman, I've got to interrupt.

00:50:33.000 I'm skipping a network break.

00:50:35.000 This break belongs to the network.

00:50:36.000 Stations should not run over this.

00:50:38.000 I'm skipping the break for time.

00:50:40.000 Go ahead, Congressman.

00:50:41.000 The bottom line is, I don't know if you remember, but Jane Harman from California was picked up on a voice recorder of promising American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee that she'd get their two spies out of prison if they used their influence to make her the chairman of the Intelligence Committee.

00:50:58.000 Yeah, that was on the news.

00:50:59.000 Yeah, but it was hidden away real fast.

00:51:02.000 And it was hidden away real good.

00:51:04.000 But do you know that the two spies were ultimately turned loose by our Attorney General Holder?

00:51:11.000 And he said, we're not sure that they had bad intent.

00:51:14.000 Well, keep in mind, Alex, that the man that they were working with in the Pentagon, Larry Franklin, is still in prison for 12 years for giving secrets.

00:51:23.000 And what their efforts were, they were attempting to mobilize the Pentagon to attack Iran.

00:51:29.000 Look, enough is enough.

00:51:31.000 Everybody's afraid down there, Alex.

00:51:33.000 And the thing I don't like is the IRS has thousands of times testified before Congress and said the only weapon we have to collect voluntary taxes is the element of fear.

00:51:45.000 Alex, how does fear, and the word fear, and the process of fear even enter into the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence?

00:51:55.000 My God, what has happened to us, Alex?

00:51:57.000 Well, Congressman, I did the research at the time.

00:52:00.000 I know it was in two major Florida papers that she was actually caught when she was just a prosecutor, so drugged out on alcohol and pills, vomiting in the back of a car in a parking garage with a 13-year-old girl.

00:52:15.000 It also came out in, I believe it was lawsuits, you can pull this up, that she would go check out kids that had been CPS'd from the CPS.

00:52:23.000 Did you ever see that info?

00:52:25.000 No, the information that I had was that the powers that be and the cocaine business had photographs of her with young ladies in compromising situations, and she was really ineffective and impotent in anything she'd try and do. 0.97

00:52:41.000 The reason that I got so involved with Janet Reno is she testified before Congress about Waco, that they did everything not to push David Koresh over the edge.

00:52:51.000 Listen, no one got more information than me on that case, Alex, and listen to this.

00:52:55.000 David Koresh went jogging every morning, and went for lunch, and went for breakfast in the local town.

00:53:00.000 They could have arrested him in town and there would have been no problem.

00:53:03.000 They wanted that stage.

00:53:05.000 They wanted that stage to try and change the IRS law of these exemptions for these church-related activities.

00:53:11.000 And it blew up in her face.

00:53:13.000 But when she testified to Congress and said we didn't want to pressure him and push him over the edge, I wasn't on that committee or I'd ask her this question.

00:53:20.000 Then, my God, why did you have strobe lights on that building all night and play the recordings of dying rabbits at the screaming decibel level so high it was heard in villages five miles away if you didn't want to push anybody over the edge?

00:53:35.000 She lied.

00:53:36.000 But the thing that bothered me is we had a general in the Red Chinese Army, Alex, that gave $10 million to the Clinton campaign, and she never investigated it.

00:53:46.000 She said it wasn't worthy of an investigation.

00:53:49.000 Now my God, we have China right now that is controlling much of the money supply in America.

00:53:54.000 They're controlling the commerce and trade of America.

00:53:57.000 You have Israel that's controlling the national and international policies of America. 0.95

00:54:02.000 Where the hell do the American people come in and why isn't anybody saying it?

00:54:06.000 Well, this is an incredible interview with James Traficant.

00:54:10.000 I know you're on the road right now, traveling, and if you can't do it, it's fine.

00:54:14.000 We're going to break here in about five minutes.

00:54:16.000 For one minute, can we have an extra additional five minutes with you?

00:54:19.000 I'd be honored.

00:54:20.000 And let me tell you something.

00:54:22.000 I am concerned about you, but you're making one hell of an impact.

00:54:25.000 Well, I'm concerned about you and everybody else that has courage, and God bless you.

00:54:28.000 Again, Jim Travacan is our guest.

00:54:30.000 And going back to Waco briefly, I remember the FLIR footage of the Bradley fighting vehicles with the troops firing their assault rifles.

00:54:38.000 And it came out that Delta Force was there.

00:54:42.000 It was in Time Magazine that Israeli troops of all people and British troops were there.

00:54:50.000 As a congressman who was there during those investigations, what's your intel on that?

00:54:55.000 It was a joke, the way the mainstream media actually turned it around, where many Americans at the dinner table were saying, they got just what they deserved down there in Texas.

00:55:05.000 My God, Alex.

00:55:06.000 There were 17 kids incinerated, children incinerated in that building.

00:55:11.000 I had seen films of it, where many of those guns and many of those heavy artillery was aimed right at the exit point, where no one was coming out of there.

00:55:21.000 Look, Janet Reno and the Justice Department, Should have gone to prison over that. 1.00

00:55:27.000 And another one that was very bad.

00:55:28.000 Now, sir, you're not a white supremacist, and you're not a racist.

00:55:32.000 I know that.

00:55:32.000 Neither am I. But this fellow, Randy Weaver, out there in Idaho, they shot his wife holding their infant child right between the eyes, a marksman.

00:55:41.000 Killed a dog and killed his 14-year-old boy.

00:55:44.000 I made a speech every week until they settled, and he ended up settling for about $5 million with the government.

00:55:49.000 But they did that.

00:55:52.000 They entangled that man because he was supposedly a white supremacist and was a political target of the United States government. 0.94

00:55:59.000 Look, I'm not into any white supremacist, black supremacist, black power business. 0.95

00:56:04.000 I'm for a straight and honest American society.

00:56:07.000 But regardless of what your politics are, I don't think that you should be singled out.

00:56:12.000 Well, I know Weaver.

00:56:13.000 He was former Special Forces.

00:56:15.000 They wanted him to be an informant against the Aryan Nations. 0.98

00:56:18.000 We'd only visited once.

00:56:20.000 He was, quote, separating himself from society.

00:56:23.000 None of that was even true.

00:56:25.000 And when he wouldn't go be an informant for them, they went and did what they did.

00:56:28.000 Yeah, it was a shame.

00:56:29.000 What they did is they came to him and trapped him.

00:56:31.000 They cut the saw off two barrels off shotguns.

00:56:34.000 He said, why don't you do it?

00:56:35.000 They said, well, you know, we don't want to get into that.

00:56:37.000 We don't know what we're doing.

00:56:37.000 You know, you know what you're doing.

00:56:39.000 And they entrapped the guy.

00:56:40.000 But the way they come in with a SWAT team and the way they destroyed that family.

00:56:44.000 But see, this is what America's not seeing.

00:56:46.000 They're not seeing the other side of the one-eyed jack. 0.95

00:56:49.000 Let me tell you something, Alex.

00:56:50.000 And that's seven and a half years in prison.

00:56:52.000 I'm probably more knowledgeable than anyone that ever served in Congress.

00:56:56.000 That isn't self-serving, because I've seen the other side of this thing.

00:57:00.000 And see, I know what you're talking about.

00:57:03.000 You're very unpopular in the nation's capital.

00:57:06.000 But your popularity is growing because people know you're telling the truth.

00:57:10.000 And you're touching subjects that people are afraid to even comment on.

00:57:15.000 This is what bothers me.

00:57:16.000 Do we have freedom of speech in America?

00:57:18.000 Well, do we have mice or men?

00:57:20.000 I mean, I'm not looking for trouble, but I can't control myself.

00:57:23.000 When I see corruption and people being oppressed, I've got to stand up against it.

00:57:27.000 And I, quite frankly, don't. 0.96

00:57:29.000 Don't give a damn if they kill me. 0.92

00:57:31.000 I don't want that to happen, but I'm committed. 0.99

00:57:33.000 Well, let me tell you something.

00:57:34.000 The truth of the matter is there are a lot of Americans like you, and they don't have the microphone, and they respect the hell out of you for it.

00:57:41.000 And that's why you have a tremendous responsibility.

00:57:43.000 You have a tremendous responsibility with the pressure that you're going to be getting.

00:57:47.000 And after having an interview with Jim Trafigan, My God, they're going to have their antenna up completely.

00:57:54.000 But what I'm saying are things that I know that I've investigated myself.

00:58:00.000 And when I brought a man home off a death row for mass murder, and Israel called me at my hotel in Jerusalem and said, he'll be in Tel Aviv tomorrow night, Congressman.

00:58:09.000 Take him home.

00:58:10.000 That tells you that I got the right information.

00:58:15.000 And the government knew it.

00:58:17.000 And then you're demonized.

00:58:19.000 And they set you up and put you in prison.

00:58:21.000 We're going to come back.

00:58:23.000 I'm sorry to the callers.

00:58:24.000 It's just that all the info he keeps bringing out, I want to get every minute we can because he was in the middle of all of this in Congress for so long.

00:58:31.000 But we'll see about going to your calls.

00:58:33.000 Regardless, I'll get to them when we come back after the congressman's left us in about eight minutes.

00:58:37.000 We'll be back in 70 seconds.

00:58:38.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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01:00:21.000 Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we are back live.

01:00:23.000 Jim Trafficant, final segment with him.

01:00:26.000 We have talked about so many issues, but going back to blackmail in Congress, you know, they can selectively either falsely charge somebody or use a crooked toenail to put them in prison.

01:00:37.000 And then meanwhile, I've been talking for years about Goldman Sachs openly robbing everyone, and the people we've talked to, the experts here, they believe that these Justice Department Criminal research, criminal investigation is just a big cover-up, and the civil indictment is just a big cover-up, because Goldman Sachs is Obama's biggest contributor.

01:00:55.000 Where do you see this going, Congressman?

01:00:57.000 Well, I don't see anything happening to anybody.

01:00:59.000 I think there's a big network of people that surround our government, they control our government, and I think we have to start looking again at foreign entanglements like First President Washington warned us of. 0.52

01:01:10.000 Back then it was Britain, but now, believe me, we have Israel that's very powerful, and they're very powerful on Wall Street.

01:01:17.000 The thing that bothers me is much of our government has been coming from Goldman Sachs.

01:01:21.000 They've been sending their people into our decision-making process.

01:01:26.000 I think it's time.

01:01:27.000 Audit the Fed isn't enough.

01:01:28.000 We've got to end the Fed.

01:01:30.000 Coin money, as the Constitution says, and we can promulgate a plan to do that.

01:01:34.000 I think it's time to throw many of these departments of government out.

01:01:37.000 Department of Energy was supposed to take our dependents off of foreign oil. 0.99

01:01:40.000 Hell, we have more dependency now than we had back then.

01:01:43.000 Department of Education, I think it's time for the states to handle that and the local school boards to make salient decisions.

01:01:49.000 And I think there's so many things, but Alex, I'm saying this on your show.

01:01:52.000 If we do not, in fact, abolish the IRS and repeal the income tax, and let the American people get their entire pay with no withholding, no tax on savings, no corporate tax, no capital gains tax, no inheritance and death taxes, no more Social Security, no more Medicare tax, no more audits, no more paperwork, no more receipts, no more accountants, no more attorneys, and that 25% tax

01:02:17.000 We'll cover these problems, and second of all, as Harvard studies said, when we take the burdensome compliance off this Communist Progressive Income Tax, that prices will drop so significantly that we will have hardly no increase in prices we have now.

01:02:32.000 And finally, for those under the latter, they take their receipts into the government, and the government would give them, as they have now, assistance programs, but that would be coupled with work.

01:02:43.000 And finally, all this underground narcotic business, they'd pay taxes.

01:02:47.000 And they're now on SSI, and their wives are in public housing, by the way.

01:02:51.000 Second of all, all these people come to visit Broadway and Las Vegas, Germany, Japan, all over the world, Canada, they would pay into our tax scheme.

01:03:00.000 And we can turn to... The people are not free, and we will not be free until we take the yoke of the income tax off the American people.

01:03:08.000 We've got to reward work and personal industry.

01:03:12.000 That's my statement.

01:03:13.000 Alright, Congressman, we are out of time.

01:03:15.000 Very gracious to give us this much time.

01:03:17.000 People need to get involved with your campaign.

01:03:19.000 You're officially filing next week.

01:03:20.000 We're going to give them an address.

01:03:22.000 People want to support you financially in that here in just a moment.

01:03:25.000 But I would just add, Kennedy cut the income tax by 50% and government tax receipts doubled.

01:03:31.000 The government knows when they cut taxes they get more money because the economy speeds up.

01:03:35.000 They want to control the economy, and that's why they're only expanding government. 0.99

01:03:40.000 We've got to at least just stop the growth of it, or it's over, as you said.

01:03:44.000 Give us your address so people can support you.

01:03:46.000 429 North Main Street, Poland.

01:03:53.000 Just like the country, P-O-L-A-N-D, Ohio, 44514.

01:03:57.000 One more time.

01:04:02.000 429 North Main Street, Poland, Ohio 44514 Well, resistance is victory, and by you running, you're going to be able to be on the news, and you're going to be able to bring real issues to the table, whether you win, lose, or draw.

01:04:18.000 It's a victory that you're running, and I'm glad you're doing it.

01:04:20.000 You've got huge support.

01:04:22.000 The news reports, thousands of people coming to your rallies, you know, hundreds and hundreds of people, even in the small towns.

01:04:27.000 So you've got a big support base out there, and we appreciate what you're doing.

01:04:32.000 Congressman Jim Traficant, all the demonization, all the lies you've gone through, but you're, you know, On the outside now, exposing this tyranny, and I look forward to talking to you again in the near future.

01:04:43.000 God bless you.

01:04:44.000 Keep up your good work, Alex.

01:04:46.000 Will try, sir.

01:04:46.000 And as you said last time, no need to be beamed out.

01:04:49.000 There is intelligent life in America, just not in Washington.

01:04:53.000 Thank you so much, sir.

01:04:54.000 We'll talk to you again soon.

01:04:55.000 We'll be right back with your phone calls, a ton of news, and Wayne Madsen coming up.

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01:08:19.000 I tell you, talking to Jim Traficant was creeping me out.

01:08:23.000 Even off air, he was telling me, you better watch it.

01:08:26.000 They're going to try to set you up.

01:08:27.000 You've got a lot of power now.

01:08:29.000 And he was telling me off air, you also heard him say it on air, that everywhere he goes, just all over the place, people are bringing up the interview he did on this show.

01:08:38.000 And that's when I realized, like three years ago, I was in Roatan.

01:08:43.000 Took off for a week with my family.

01:08:45.000 Went down there to scuba dive, something I get to do about every two years.

01:08:47.000 And I was in dirt villages, you know, off in remote areas where we were going to go out to reefs and dive.

01:08:55.000 And it was the people that ran the dive place who were Americans or British.

01:08:59.000 It was the villagers.

01:09:01.000 I'd go into some shack to eat some fried fish and those people. 0.99

01:09:04.000 And I'd say, how do you know who I am?

01:09:06.000 Oh.

01:09:06.000 Oh, they make copies of your DVDs.

01:09:09.000 You know, we watch it down at the church.

01:09:11.000 And then I get callers calling in, you know, people in Brazil and people in Japan and I get sent photos almost every couple days in like Russia and in the Czech Republic and Germany.

01:09:25.000 Infowars.com spray-painted You know, on buildings.

01:09:29.000 And we get sent photos and I get called by, one time we got an email from the city government in a major town in New Zealand.

01:09:38.000 And there was a giant shutdown factory and somebody at night had to do it with ropes, spray-painted Infowars.com across it.

01:09:46.000 I'm not saying do that, but I mean the point is, is that, is that I've said over and over again, I am in over my head.

01:09:55.000 I mean, ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center reports, government reports, secret army reports, and I don't just have the reports, I then talk to military.

01:10:04.000 I then talk to family who are in the military and they say, no, you're in briefings.

01:10:11.000 I mean, the Pentagon has me in briefings?

01:10:14.000 I mean, I don't know how much longer I got here, folks.

01:10:18.000 I mean, this is getting to the point of insanity.

01:10:21.000 I mean, and I said I'm going to go to Terry, Chris, Sean, Larry, Tony and others.

01:10:26.000 Before Trafficking came on, we were taking calls from military and police who were confirming the martial law drills, state police in Georgia, where they're training to go in and just kill whole families to take their guns.

01:10:36.000 And then we have the internal drills where they take on the Tea Partiers and the military shows up in San Diego with sound cannons.

01:10:44.000 What was that?

01:10:45.000 Five months ago for the Tea Party and they're attacking everybody.

01:10:48.000 I mean, it's just Does this nightmare have to happen?

01:10:51.000 Does Goldman Sachs have to steal everything?

01:10:54.000 Do we have to have carbon taxes?

01:10:55.000 Do we have to have open borders?

01:10:57.000 Am I really the bad man?

01:10:59.000 And why am I, other than Ron Paul, but I'll go a lot further than Ron Paul goes, why does this have to be me?

01:11:10.000 This is not fun!

01:11:12.000 You know, for all of the COINTELPRO individuals who pose as patriots and attack me, and we've confirmed that in many cases, like Hal Turner and others, we know what's going on there, but so much of the other attacks I go through and the trolling, it's just jealousy!

01:11:25.000 You know, all these people out there, when my listeners, not really Alex Jones, I understood the power of people and getting them to take action and getting them to make copies of films and put them on AXS TV.

01:11:37.000 You know, I had read a lot of history books, so I read about the printing press, freeing Europe from the Dark Ages.

01:11:44.000 And I read about the founding fathers of little handheld presses with one-page handbills, waking up the American people over the 15 years before the Revolutionary War.

01:11:53.000 So I, day one, made films and said, make copies.

01:11:56.000 You carried the ball.

01:11:57.000 We've had a big effect on that front and other fronts.

01:12:00.000 And now all these AM and FM stations that thought I was a kook 10 years ago, I've done more than 5,000 interviews.

01:12:05.000 So I've done interviews on almost every talk station in the country over and over and over again.

01:12:10.000 And I have radio executives and big radio hosts and others that call me and say, we thought you were a kook. 0.95

01:12:15.000 It's all true.

01:12:17.000 You know, my son's in the Marines.

01:12:18.000 They're training for gun confiscation.

01:12:21.000 My daughter's in the Army.

01:12:22.000 Same thing.

01:12:24.000 That's what they're scared of.

01:12:25.000 Because we were here for so long telling people what was being set up that now it's openly Happening, and our credibility is rocketing upwards.

01:12:38.000 But it's this audience that generated much of what is the modern patriot movement.

01:12:42.000 I mean, I remember Ron Paul, and I didn't even really know this three years ago.

01:12:46.000 He was on for an interview about three, four months into his campaign.

01:12:49.000 He said, I just want to say on air, half of our support Half the people that come up to me and give me support are saying they came from your show.

01:12:57.000 So Ron Paul, in the aggregate, is bigger than the work I've done.

01:13:01.000 And that's wonderful.

01:13:03.000 I'm glad there's bigger targets out there than me and he's a great man.

01:13:06.000 But it's this audience from Texas and others that were a big part of the launch pad that propelled Ron Paul to where he is.

01:13:15.000 And I told people at the time, you know, I off the record, many others pressured him to run.

01:13:20.000 And I said, look, it doesn't matter if you don't win.

01:13:23.000 It'll create a big movement, and you'll be able to talk about real issues.

01:13:26.000 And he said, yeah, but then if we don't win, people will get mad.

01:13:30.000 He understood that responsibility.

01:13:32.000 But then I told listeners, when he didn't win the presidency, I said resistance was victory.

01:13:36.000 Now look at how he's been mainstreamed.

01:13:39.000 Now look at how they tried to destroy him, and they failed.

01:13:42.000 So they're trying to act like they're his friend and spin what he's saying in the media.

01:13:48.000 I hope to get to that point myself. 0.94

01:13:50.000 I'm now at the testing point where they're saying that I'm calling for violence and I'm calling for killing cops.

01:13:56.000 They're telling cops and military and IRS this to try to manipulate them.

01:14:01.000 into tearing me limb from limb.

01:14:03.000 But it won't matter if they tear me limb from limb.

01:14:05.000 I will still win with my message and my mission.

01:14:08.000 And so it's the mission that matters.

01:14:10.000 And I understand the responsibility I have.

01:14:12.000 I understand every day, I'm just human like everybody else.

01:14:16.000 I have my own problems, just like everybody else.

01:14:19.000 You know, every day when I'm driving home, I've gotta stop myself from pulling over and buying a six pack of beer and going home and grilling a 20 ounce steak.

01:14:28.000 I mean, you know, those are my vices.

01:14:30.000 You know, every day I've got to...

01:14:34.000 It's almost like a vice that I want to go fishing and do nothing but spend time with my children.

01:14:38.000 But I know that's not a vice.

01:14:39.000 That's why I'm going to be taking some more days off here in the future.

01:14:43.000 Just because if I am going to get put in prison or if I am going to get killed, I just want to be with my children a little more, because every moment is precious.

01:14:50.000 But then I was going to take my son fishing today, but then some radio and TV called that will reach millions of people, so I've got to show up tonight and tell him, sorry, we don't get to go fishing.

01:15:01.000 And then I've got the government and the media lying, saying I'm telling people to kill cops.

01:15:06.000 You know what that feels like?

01:15:08.000 That I am sacrificing everything I am.

01:15:10.000 I'm putting my entire body and my name, my family name, everything on the railroad tracks, folks, to stop this train.

01:15:18.000 And...

01:15:20.000 I get to see all these other so-called patriot leaders.

01:15:23.000 I'm not mad that they're jealous and lie about me and attack me, and some of them are feds, but most of them aren't.

01:15:29.000 I'm angry that they didn't become real leaders.

01:15:31.000 I'm angry that they're involved in petty jealousy and envy.

01:15:37.000 I'm upset for them! 0.99

01:15:40.000 I'm upset that there's so many people I can't work with because they're morally bankrupt and mentally ill.

01:15:45.000 I mean, I'm facing, you know, just a nightmare situation for myself individually.

01:15:51.000 But also, the payoff is liberty and freedom.

01:15:54.000 And I passed the point of no return a long time ago, and it feels good to be here telling the truth and taking action.

01:16:00.000 In fact, I've got a 10-minute video up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:16:04.000 I shot yesterday.

01:16:05.000 Let's put that on screen, just the video and video title, so people know what they're going to be looking for.

01:16:15.000 It's up there on the screen.

01:16:16.000 I told the guys to title it.

01:16:17.000 They just got it up an hour ago.

01:16:19.000 We're not going to have time to play it, but you can go to the website, Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com to watch it.

01:16:25.000 Alex Jones sets the record straight, reaches out to the military.

01:16:28.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:16:29.000 Alex Jones sets the record straight, reaches out to the military.

01:16:31.000 That's just a 10-minute video that breaks a lot of this down and the state of the republic right now.

01:16:35.000 But enough about myself.

01:16:37.000 It's just that when James Traficant is saying, oh, you're having this big effect.

01:16:42.000 I mean, he's not a guy that just says stuff.

01:16:46.000 You're having a huge effect.

01:16:47.000 You better watch it.

01:16:48.000 You have a big responsibility.

01:16:49.000 Believe me, it's like an echo chamber.

01:16:51.000 This is what I'm thinking every minute.

01:16:53.000 This is what I'm understanding every second.

01:16:55.000 I wake up in the middle of the night and write down all these notes and all these ideas and things I want to talk about and never get to half of it.

01:17:01.000 And I feel like I haven't done a good enough job.

01:17:03.000 But you know what?

01:17:04.000 I've done the best job I could.

01:17:06.000 And God knows that.

01:17:07.000 And look, this country is falling into pure evil.

01:17:10.000 There is no doubt anymore.

01:17:11.000 There's no denial about this.

01:17:13.000 People have to get out of denial.

01:17:14.000 Okay, I'm going to go to your calls quickly.

01:17:16.000 I apologize for making you hold.

01:17:17.000 Terry in Ohio, you're on the air.

01:17:18.000 Go ahead.

01:17:20.000 Yeah, Alex, I've called you before, being an ex-vet and everything, and I listened to Glenn Beck.

01:17:26.000 He was talking about the Black Robe Brigade.

01:17:29.000 Now, I think that kind of gives you a hint of who I am.

01:17:33.000 You know, with everything that's going on and the troops firing on American citizens.

01:17:39.000 You know, one thing about it is, is this, you know, you can't understand why troops would do that.

01:17:44.000 Even in Nam, one of the things was we knew we weren't there fighting for our country because if we were, we'd be doing it back here in the States. 0.69

01:17:53.000 And what happened was, is we got the mentality that we were to, we were going to defend each other.

01:18:01.000 Okay?

01:18:02.000 It wasn't so much about You know, you enemy, me friend, that kind of thing.

01:18:06.000 It was, we were going to do everything we could to protect ourselves.

01:18:10.000 Well, you got the, you're going to have the same scenario when, if US troops come in to start, you know, shooting and things like that, American citizens.

01:18:21.000 And I've thought about this.

01:18:22.000 I've even prayed about this.

01:18:23.000 And one of the things that keeps coming to my mind is, is I need to buy a bullhorn.

01:18:29.000 And the reason I say that is, is this, you know, In those type of situations, if the troops realize, all you got to do is tell them over with a bullhorn, that, hey, your family is going through this exact same thing back home. 0.63

01:18:46.000 Now, are you going to allow others to shoot your families like you're fixing to shoot us?

01:18:52.000 And you know what? 0.99

01:18:54.000 That's going to have somewhat of a wake-up call.

01:18:58.000 Because you know what?

01:18:59.000 I don't care how hardened you are.

01:19:02.000 You know, by war, or how many tours of duty you have.

01:19:05.000 You, when it comes to shooting a human being, you know, that, that takes a, that takes life out of you.

01:19:14.000 And I know that for a fact, because it took me 12 years to finally realize that God would forgive me for what I did.

01:19:23.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.98

01:19:24.000 No, this is very touching what you're saying and that is the mentality and they're gonna stage attacks against the military and police to get them whipped up into a fury to go up against the population and then in the process we're all gonna kill each other which is exactly what these offshore bankers want instead of arresting Gordon Brown and Barack Obama and Lloyd Blankfein they're setting it up for us to kill each other like a bunch of idiots and I take no pleasure in thinking about What's going to happen to our military and police? 0.98

01:19:53.000 Because if one out of one percent of the gun owners stands up in this fight, it's over for them.

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01:23:57.000 All right, let's try to jam in as many of these callers as we can.

01:24:11.000 Wayne Madsen's coming up with the key inside Intel on 9-11.

01:24:15.000 Chris in Tennessee, you're on the air, go ahead.

01:24:17.000 Alex, I was proud of you when you bullhorned George Bush and they locked you up and took you for a two-hour ride.

01:24:24.000 Also, guys like Kelly Russians and Charles in Louisiana, but what I was going to ask Mr. Jim Traficant was, I wrote him letters in prison.

01:24:33.000 Jim was set up because his car that he rented He didn't want to drive a Pinto, and they set him up for excessive government funds.

01:24:42.000 And also, on flight TWA800, he was the lead investigator, and one of our submarines in a training mission fired a missile.

01:24:52.000 And that even came out later in mainstream news.

01:24:54.000 I know, the more I research Trafficant, I mean, the guy was all over everything.

01:24:59.000 I mean, how could he be bad?

01:25:00.000 Why would he, if he was a crook, and we know they set him up, why would he always be out there exposing And with you with the inside stock trading and the history of the stock market in those particular days when there was 200 and something massive stock trades going on and then Larry Silverstein's, the Twin Towers were filled with asbestos.

01:25:29.000 And the owners were afraid of massive lawsuits by the employees for asbestos, and he collected the... Anyway, let me get off this phone with somebody else here, but yeah, Alex, you have been right on cue for the last seven years, and that's an open murder case.

01:25:47.000 Now, when the truth finally comes out, people, Alex, and Trafficant's right, be careful, you're the man.

01:25:55.000 But what I'm getting at is when phonies like Glenn Beck who shed a tear, I would not let that man on Genesis Network when he gets fired.

01:26:06.000 Because he's misleading everybody.

01:26:09.000 And that to me, I despise the man.

01:26:11.000 But Alex, you're the man.

01:26:13.000 Well, listen, I appreciate your call.

01:26:14.000 I don't want to sit here and just constantly talk about Glenn Beck all day.

01:26:16.000 I mean, Glenn Beck is Glenn Beck and he'll be judged.

01:26:19.000 And I mean, there's worse things in the universe than Glenn Beck, like Barack Obama.

01:26:26.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Sean in California.

01:26:29.000 You're on the air.

01:26:31.000 Hey, Alex.

01:26:32.000 Powerful show today.

01:26:35.000 Two things.

01:26:36.000 One is a news story that doesn't look like it's been picked up too much.

01:26:39.000 It's called, We Tolerate the Cultivation of Opium Poppies. 1.00

01:26:43.000 Something with Geraldo.

01:26:45.000 Unbelievable that you just called in about that.

01:26:48.000 I was just griping that we had that clip, we had the YouTube clip, and now we can't find it.

01:26:54.000 What was the exact name of the clip?

01:26:56.000 It's called, We Tolerate The cultivation of opium poppies.

01:27:01.000 It's on YouTube.

01:27:02.000 We cultivate the cultivation of opium poppies, YouTube.

01:27:07.000 We cultivate the cultivation of poppies.

01:27:10.000 The incredible part is, I was just searching for that.

01:27:14.000 In fact, give me a document cam shot.

01:27:16.000 There of this screen over here.

01:27:17.000 I was searching during the break for it because the guys couldn't find it again.

01:27:20.000 I had Fox News, Pentagon, Opium, and was unable to find it.

01:27:25.000 But that is, that is synchronicity right there.

01:27:28.000 That means we've got to play this clip.

01:27:29.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:27:30.000 No, absolutely, brother.

01:27:33.000 We are changing the NSYNC with the Alex Jones Show.

01:27:35.000 So, hey, so it's on YouTube.

01:27:38.000 It's also, I sent it to writers at InfoWars, so it's got a little story already to go with it.

01:27:45.000 But yeah, it's crazy.

01:27:46.000 I mean, Harald is over here saying, oh yeah, for the security of our nation, we have to protect the poppy fields. 0.98

01:27:53.000 And then they have these swollen military personnel over there going, yeah, we're guarding poppy fields, and it's a good thing. 1.00

01:28:02.000 You know, that's huge.

01:28:02.000 I've got to get Kurt Nemo and Paul Watson to do a blurb on that.

01:28:06.000 They do such a great job.

01:28:07.000 But I appreciate your call.

01:28:08.000 We have got to cover this.

01:28:09.000 For two days, I've been meaning to get to it.

01:28:13.000 Also, guys, print the Reuters article, uh, NATO says no to Russia's call to eradicate poppies.

01:28:19.000 And they admit it right there.

01:28:20.000 And I heard it six months ago on BBC, where they admitted our government guards the poppies.

01:28:25.000 And that's what Pat Tillman had discovered, was writing letters home to his family, that he was going to come back and expose it and was going to be anti-war.

01:28:31.000 So they murdered him.

01:28:33.000 And that's what I mean.

01:28:34.000 They openly admit that they are shipping in the heroin.

01:28:39.000 I mean, the banks are openly robbing everyone.

01:28:43.000 This is just all out in the open.

01:28:45.000 It is totally and completely out of control.

01:28:49.000 Give people the name of the video one more time so they can find it.

01:28:55.000 Okay, the caller is gone.

01:28:56.000 But we were successful this time.

01:28:58.000 We are successful with it.

01:28:59.000 We are going to come out of break with it and then go to Wayne Madsen.

01:29:02.000 We are going to do that here, and I'm going to get that Reuters article.

01:29:07.000 Search term, NATO says no to Russian proposal.

01:29:11.000 To eradicate poppies in Afghanistan.

01:29:13.000 I believe that's almost the headline.

01:29:15.000 We'll be able to find it, because I don't want to just show one clip.

01:29:17.000 I want to show them even more evidence, where they now just roll it out, that okay, we're protecting it, okay, we're doing it, alright, we're the good guys, and if Alex Jones says opium being shipped in isn't good, well, he's al-Qaeda.

01:29:30.000 You know, he's evil.

01:29:32.000 Anybody else that says the CIA's shipping drugs in, they're evil, because that doesn't exist.

01:29:36.000 But we do ship them in.

01:29:37.000 You know, we do grow it.

01:29:40.000 You know, there is a world government, but there isn't a world government, and you need to support it.

01:29:44.000 Wayne Madsen, straight ahead, ladies and gentlemen.

01:29:46.000 We'll be right back.

01:29:47.000 Stay with us.

01:29:49.000 We're on the march.

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01:33:01.000 Welcome back to Fox and Friends.

01:33:02.000 Dave Briggs, he's Clayton Morris, she's Allison Camerata.

01:33:05.000 We're gonna head to Afghanistan this morning.

01:33:07.000 One of the biggest obstacles in front of the U.S.

01:33:10.000 troops there in Afghanistan is the opium trade.

01:33:12.000 The Taliban is using it to intimidate the population.

01:33:16.000 Joining us from Helmand Province is Geraldo Rivera.

01:33:19.000 Good morning to you, Geraldo.

01:33:21.000 Tell us what you've seen during your days there in Afghanistan.

01:33:26.000 Hi, Allison, Dave, and Clayton.

01:33:27.000 Yes, in some ways, the Marines brilliantly executed invasion of Marjah, this town in the middle of Helmand Province, was the easy part.

01:33:37.000 The hard part now is governing this province, a province, as you suggest, that has become addicted to opium in many, many ways.

01:33:44.000 That is the principal crop that is being grown here.

01:33:48.000 The Taliban lend the farmers the money.

01:33:50.000 They are indebted to the Taliban. 0.77

01:33:52.000 They have to grow the opium.

01:33:54.000 Now the Marines, in their success, are in a sense a victim of their success because now the population is, you know, they have these opium fields and we are tolerating it. 0.99

01:34:04.000 We are tolerating the cultivation of the opium because we know that if we were to destroy it now, the population would turn against the Marines and it would be a real security risk.

01:34:14.000 Let me introduce Lieutenant Colonel Brian Christmas, he's the commanding officer of the 3rd Battalion, 6th Marines.

01:34:19.000 Really a wonderful group of Marines here.

01:34:22.000 I know that you care deeply about this contradiction.

01:34:26.000 The fact that here you have one of the best fighting forces in the world ever mounted.

01:34:31.000 And in a sense, you're watching as this opium is being grown.

01:34:35.000 I know it grinds at your gut.

01:34:37.000 How do you deal with it?

01:34:38.000 What are you doing about it?

01:34:39.000 Well, frankly, this is a part of their culture.

01:34:42.000 So, while it might grind in my gut, it's what they do.

01:34:46.000 We provide them security, we're providing them resources, and we're providing them alternatives.

01:34:50.000 And the alternatives are different crops to grow.

01:34:52.000 They're getting the seed and the fertilizer to do it.

01:34:55.000 They can rotate any of their crops that they want.

01:34:58.000 If they want to get rid of their wheat and grow cotton for the winter, they can do that, and we're going to help them do it. 0.96

01:35:02.000 So the same thing goes for the cotton.

01:35:03.000 So you think that, you know, we were at the market and everywhere we go they're selling these little devices.

01:35:08.000 Take a shot of this, Greg.

01:35:10.000 They're hand carved.

01:35:11.000 These are the little devices they use to scrape the opium sap off the plant.

01:35:17.000 And I watched as you bought every one that was for sale because you care so deeply.

01:35:22.000 Why'd you do that?

01:35:23.000 Well, I'm off the street.

01:35:24.000 The idea is that we don't want to harvest the poppy.

01:35:28.000 Do you see that mind control?

01:35:30.000 The troops help them grow the poppies, but then they get the paraphernalia off the streets.

01:35:37.000 That's a psy-op.

01:35:39.000 That's saying, yes, we help grow it, but then we're going to arrest you if you have it.

01:35:45.000 But then on the street it's bad.

01:35:47.000 Opium production was almost down to zero.

01:35:50.000 Now over 91 percent, you can just Google that, of all the opium in the world that creates heroin, It comes out of Afghanistan. 0.75

01:36:00.000 The news has reported a 12-plus, that number's over a year old, increase to record numbers.

01:36:06.000 The Russians last month, NATO rejects Russian call for Afghan poppy spraying, said, no, we're going to let it be grown. 0.99

01:36:13.000 This has nothing to do with the, quote, Taliban.

01:36:15.000 We're there.

01:36:16.000 One of the main reasons is to get the hundreds of billions of dollars a year of opium laundered through US banks.

01:36:23.000 And of course I've been on air for eight years exposing this, but this is mind control.

01:36:27.000 This is the normalization of pure evil.

01:36:29.000 Because Pat Tillman was writing letters home saying they're growing opium, we're protecting it, this war is a fraud. 0.99

01:36:34.000 Back when that was a secret, they had to kill him.

01:36:37.000 Now because they can't cover it up, they just normalize it.

01:36:39.000 Hide it in plain view.

01:36:40.000 Yes, we're helping them grow it.

01:36:42.000 We don't like it, but we've got to defeat Al-Qaeda. 0.59

01:36:46.000 Now, let your kid be caught with some heroin.

01:36:49.000 Of course, it wouldn't be here if there wasn't so much money in it, and if our government wasn't growing it.

01:36:53.000 Just like Mexico. 0.86

01:36:54.000 Our government is criminal and brings in most of the drugs.

01:36:58.000 Now, I want to go to Wayne Madsen, DC-based investigative journalist, author, and syndicated columnist.

01:37:03.000 He's appeared all over CNN, Fox, CBS, PBS.

01:37:07.000 He worked for the National Security Agency, worked for Naval Encryption.

01:37:14.000 He worked for the Department of State, the Data Automation Command, National Security Agency, on and on and on.

01:37:20.000 He's here to break some major 9-11 truth news, but he's also exposed government narcotics trafficking.

01:37:25.000 So let's cover that first.

01:37:27.000 Wayne Madsen of waymadsenreport.com.

01:37:31.000 Do you agree with me that this is just the main lining of the double-think of the mind control, because they can't hide it anymore?

01:37:38.000 That okay, we're growing it, but we're doing it to fight Al-Qaeda.

01:37:42.000 Oh absolutely, and it's not just, now we have reports from the United Nations that it's not just heroin and opium coming out of Afghanistan, but it's cannabis.

01:37:53.000 So they've actually found a new cash crop to deal in.

01:37:57.000 And you heard them, the troops help grow it, and so our men and women are now farmers for the CIA.

01:38:06.000 That's right, and the biggest problem is, where is this I had one going to it.

01:38:11.000 It's getting across the border into Tajikistan to the north and winding up on the old Silk Road.

01:38:18.000 The Silk Road, it's going east into China and west into Europe.

01:38:22.000 And, of course, the Russian government and the Chinese government are well aware of the fact that this stuff is coming out of Afghanistan.

01:38:30.000 And who's involved in this illicit trade?

01:38:33.000 You've got Karzai.

01:38:34.000 Hamid Karzai's brother is one of the biggest Drug warlords in Afghanistan.

01:38:38.000 Oh, let me stop you again.

01:38:39.000 New York Times just admits the whole thing.

01:38:43.000 turns blind eye to opium in Afghanistan.

01:38:43.000 Right here, U.S.

01:38:46.000 They're not turning blind eye.

01:38:47.000 They're right there getting the goodies.

01:38:48.000 Go ahead.

01:38:49.000 Right.

01:38:50.000 And the biggest fear of China is that they're looking at this as another opium war.

01:38:56.000 You know, we already have reports coming out of Yunnan province in China that young men are getting hooked on this stuff.

01:39:03.000 They know where it's coming out of, and frankly, they're not happy about it.

01:39:08.000 And the history of the Opium Wars with the British and China, they understand that that's what helped defeat the Chinese before, and they're worried that the West has similar designs now.

01:39:23.000 Well, that's important.

01:39:24.000 I mean, this is a British model.

01:39:26.000 Skull and Bones that set up our CIA on record was a British model to use a drug war to take over the U.S. 0.89

01:39:33.000 because they'd already done it a hundred years before in China with the Opium War.

01:39:37.000 That's how they corrupted the police.

01:39:38.000 That's how they took over the society.

01:39:41.000 Right, and we also know that the route to the West, to Europe, it goes through Turkey, and what we're seeing now with the present Turkish government uncovering this deep state that has existed in Turkey for a number of years, that part and parcel of that deep state, it's called the Ergenekon Network, is the trafficking in opium, and the opium's coming by land from Afghanistan.

01:40:10.000 And so, you know, from Turkey, where does it go?

01:40:10.000 Continue.

01:40:15.000 It goes through the Balkans where our friends with the Kosovo Liberation Army have dealt with that for years.

01:40:21.000 You know, that's Madeleine Albright's good friends.

01:40:24.000 She set up the KLA.

01:40:25.000 And once it hits Kosovo, boom, France, Germany, Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Italy, that's where the money's made on the street.

01:40:34.000 Now, government drug dealing, white slavery running, kidnapping, all of it takes us back full circle to 9-11.

01:40:43.000 Sybil Edmonds, FBI, NSA translator, she's now been able to finally break her gag order in court. 0.98

01:40:50.000 Last year, she told Congress this, behind the scenes, they put a gag order on her, that she was listening to the Taliban and Al Qaeda senior leadership, including Osama bin Laden, running slaves, running drugs, running weapons, all over the Middle East and Central Asia, under direct command of the Central intelligence agency, even to the day of 9-11.

01:41:16.000 She was hearing this on the day of 9-11, and then now the Turkish government has discovered that they have a military deep state, just like we have a deep state system here, and before we get into this new 9-11 information you're dropping on folks, and I've done the research, everything you put in this report ties into separate public info, but it's devastating We now have confirmed Army drill manuals where they're training to take on tea parties, gun owners, and returning veterans.

01:41:46.000 Much worse than the MIAC and Homeland Security report in there.

01:41:49.000 It's the biggest troop training we've ever seen.

01:41:51.000 This has been going on for decades.

01:41:53.000 This is a total training op to prepare for martial law.

01:41:58.000 Well, that's right, and a lot of this goes back to the 1980s when we had Rex 84 cobbled together by Oliver North and his chums on basically just taking everybody into custody who didn't agree with the Reagan administration and putting them into facilities, detention facilities.

01:42:19.000 This is an old plan come back to haunt us decades later.

01:42:27.000 Again, Wayne Madsen, so many times when I'm watching C-SPAN and watching a national security hearing, you see him there in the background reporting.

01:42:33.000 You have amazing sources in D.C.

01:42:36.000 The headline at WayneMadsenReport.com, it's also an online journal, and InfoWars.com, the super classified network that served as command and control for 9-11 false flag attack.

01:42:48.000 Break it down for our audience, this incredible information.

01:42:52.000 Okay, what I gathered was that there was a very highly classified system with a limited number of people now.

01:43:01.000 You know, it didn't take a lot of people to, you know, be in charge of this command and control operation because all it entailed that day was Letting people know, certain people know this is not a training drill, this is real time, and take the necessary actions to carry out the attacks.

01:43:23.000 The system, I first heard the phonetic description of the system called PDAS, P-D-A-S.

01:43:31.000 And I didn't find out what it stood for until a few days later.

01:43:36.000 And what I've gathered is that the system stands for Planning and Decision Aid System.

01:43:42.000 There's only about 75 to 100 terminals throughout the U.S.

01:43:46.000 government.

01:43:47.000 Maybe a couple hundred people have access to this.

01:43:49.000 They all have what's known as top-secret special compartment, sensitive compartment information, clearances, special access program clearances.

01:44:01.000 And this was the system, I do know one message was transmitted from the Chief of Staff of the Air Force on the morning of 9-11.

01:44:10.000 Uh, two other terminals, PDAS terminals, that basically stated the Air Force has successfully intercepted the target over Pennsylvania.

01:44:21.000 Now, whether that was Flight 93, I don't know, but that certainly corresponds with similar Uh, stories about, uh, what happened, uh, with the, uh, target that was moving in on the, uh, on Washington, D.C., uh, where Cheney is sitting there with Mineta.

01:44:39.000 Mineta says, uh, Cheney, uh, a young enlisted man came in and said, does the order still stand?

01:44:45.000 And, uh, Cheney responded, of course the order still stands.

01:44:47.000 Have you heard anything to the contrary?

01:44:49.000 Uh, it's quite apparent that it was PEDAS, which is operated under the Secretary of Defense.

01:44:55.000 This was the system that was used to provide the alternate command and control system on 9-11.

01:45:02.000 And again, this corresponds with another system called the CritiCom system, run by the NSA, where a similar message came over that morning.

01:45:11.000 And is that why even Anderson Cooper and CNN and CBS confirm doomsday planes from before the attack and after were all videotaped at about 50,000 feet circling because it's this doomsday COG deep state emergency dictatorship system that they were using to run the attack?

01:45:33.000 Yes, well the National Emergency Airborne Command Post, as you call it, Doomsday Plane, where the Joint Chiefs of Staff goes in the event of a nuclear war, does have a PDAS terminal on board that aircraft.

01:45:44.000 So, obviously, it was very much instrumental in this whole operation.

01:45:49.000 And there was another intelligence system run by the NSA called Criticom, which, again, a similar message came across that same morning that stated the Air Force has successfully intercepted the target over Pennsylvania.

01:46:06.000 So we had two very highly classified intelligence systems that morning talking about the interception of the target over Pennsylvania.

01:46:14.000 So the whole thing about the cell phone calls, you know, the passengers storming the cockpit, all obviously a major, a major psy-op ruse to try to convince people that, you know, some guy said, let's roll.

01:46:31.000 Well, former Black Ops Commander Colonel Don DeGramperie, when he was dying on the verge of heart failure, came on our show and then died a few weeks later and said, look, I've talked to all the Pentagon boys, and this was right after 9-11, and he said, the Pentagon, a separate general based in Virginia, but it was the squadron out of North Dakota, the Happy Hooligans, they put two AIM-9s into that aircraft And that they bucked the order.

01:46:57.000 And we know, this is declassified, we have the document, two and a half months before 9-11, Cheney took the NORAD shoot-down power that generals always had as a default, they didn't need to have a president or vice president tell them, and took that power only unto himself.

01:47:14.000 They put a whole new command structure in, in the week before the 9-11, so they'd be confused and not know what was going on.

01:47:21.000 And then right after 9-11, Cheney gave the shoot-down power back to NORAD.

01:47:27.000 Well, I also think it's significant that this p.d.a.s.

01:47:30.000 message that was sent by the Air Force Chief of Staff was sent by General John Jumper, who had only assumed command of the Air Force on September 6, 2001, so five days before we have a new Air Force Chief of Staff.

01:47:45.000 And I think what this is telling me is that it seems like it's the Air Force Because we know that in 2007, again, it was the Cheney's alternate chain of command moved these nuclear-tipped cruise missiles out of Minot Air Force Base to Barksdale Air Force Base.

01:48:03.000 They said it was a big mistake.

01:48:04.000 But again, here we have the Air Force.

01:48:06.000 The Air Force seems to come up Time and time again.

01:48:09.000 And we have people in the Air Force, I think, who really represent the alternate chain of command as we saw it under the Bush administration.

01:48:18.000 And of course, 9-11 was an aerial attack, so which service would they have had to co-op?

01:48:24.000 It would have been the U.S. 0.99

01:48:25.000 Air Force.

01:48:26.000 And who are experts in drone attacks and remote control?

01:48:30.000 Look, you don't like to speculate, but from your years of deep research and working at the NSA and literally living a cloak-and-dagger lifestyle in D.C., as best you can tell, I mean, clearly it's Cheney running the attack, but how did this work that day?

01:48:45.000 Well, apparently what happened was, we know that there was this huge amount of confusion about some drills that were being run.

01:48:54.000 NORAD was running drills, there were other drills being run, and there was a lot of confusion among the people at the radar scopes at the computer terminals.

01:49:04.000 They said they were watching television, and they said, wait a minute, is this drill or is this real time?

01:49:09.000 And I think the purpose of this alternate Command and Control System was to confuse the situation.

01:49:18.000 You know, when you had people that didn't know whether what they were watching on TV was part of a drill or not, I think it was very successful.

01:49:26.000 So the knowledge of what was really happening only had to be amongst the very few people because even the people who might have been on the PDAS terminals I'm getting this information wouldn't have had the big picture only certain a certain number of people would have had the big picture and would have known what was going on that morning.

01:49:44.000 And of course there was a separate CIA drill of the Pentagon being attacked being run separately that way if they got caught by other branches of the government or other compartments they'd say oh it's just a drill.

01:49:55.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

01:49:57.000 So you had that built-in factor of confusion.

01:49:59.000 You had a certain number of people, a very limited number of people, who knew exactly what was going on.

01:50:05.000 And therefore, that's how this multi-trillion dollar command and control communications and intelligence system that we had to, you know, ostensibly fight the Soviet Union during that Cold War era, it collapsed in a matter of hours on the morning of 9-11.

01:50:22.000 And we know within 10 minutes, as the Associated Press reported, Rumsfeld began broadcasting across the Pentagon, Iraq did this, because he knew it was important to get that first story out, Iraq, because they were already gearing up to go into Iraq.

01:50:36.000 Let's come back and talk about How important this information is and how we get this out of the public.

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01:54:13.000 We were just talking about how the troops are on Fox News saying they help the Afghans grow the opium.

01:54:18.000 And it's come out the contractors are shipping the heroin out.

01:54:22.000 I mean, if they can get on the news and admit they're growing the opium...

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01:54:48.000 And you talked about Cass Sunstein.

01:54:51.000 Talk more about that.

01:54:52.000 Well, I think what we see with this administration is, in some ways, it's worse than the Bush administration when it comes to violation of First Amendment rights.

01:55:02.000 We now know today that on Monday, Jim Risen of the New York Times was served a subpoena to go before a grand jury and reveal who his sources were.

01:55:15.000 Now, say this is about Chapter 9 in the book he wrote, which has to do with the CIA, but he also broke the story Uh, or help to break the story on the warrantless wiretapping program at NSA.

01:55:28.000 And I do know that the indictment of Tom Drake, the ex-senior official at NSA a few weeks ago, is part of a Justice Department NSA program to haul journalists before grand juries to get them to reveal who their sources are.

01:55:46.000 Now even Bush didn't even think about going this way.

01:55:48.000 Well, how could an NSA official, who's obviously trying to be patriotic so he releases illegal activity because he didn't want to go to jail, how does he get indicted and thrown in prison for doing, for exposing illegal activity?

01:56:01.000 Well, you know, it wasn't only that.

01:56:04.000 Apparently there's been a lot of contract, multi-billion dollar contract fraud at NSA.

01:56:08.000 Now look at, this gets into Keaton cases.

01:56:11.000 I think what the government did with Tom Drake was, it was preemptive.

01:56:14.000 Let's indict him before he can bring a Keaton case.

01:56:17.000 Uh, showing that the government, uh, Michael Hayden, when he was direct, uh, director of the NSA, and the present director, General Alexander, Keith Alexander, both engaged in multi-billion dollar contracts throughout the line of pockets of their favorite contractors.

01:56:32.000 And they're all the usual suspects, the SAICs, the Booz Allens, Computer Science Corporation, and the rest.

01:56:39.000 And this is hardball.

01:56:41.000 Now the hardball is being played Nixon-style.

01:56:45.000 I mean, I say this about Obama. 1.00

01:56:47.000 He's not a moron like George Bush, but he's every bit of a liar as Richard Nixon. 0.99

01:56:52.000 And I think we're seeing more Barack Milhouse Obama here than anything else. 0.99

01:57:00.000 Yeah, I mean, people thought Bush was bad.

01:57:02.000 I mean, clearly... It's continuing.

01:57:07.000 Clearly, it's all coming to a head right now.

01:57:10.000 What about the Tea Parties?

01:57:11.000 These Army documents we're getting, where they are training to just mow Tea Parties down and take them to FEMA camps. 0.62

01:57:18.000 Well, you know, I look at the Tea Party and I see a lot of anger.

01:57:21.000 I see a lot of built-in energy and frustration.

01:57:24.000 Unfortunately, I was here when Dick Ormey was at the Press Club, and he ostensibly is, like, marshalling the Tea Party movement.

01:57:32.000 And I think the Tea Party has to be very careful about being used as dupes by the Republican Party.

01:57:37.000 All that anger, all that frustration, I think, should be channeled away from the Republican Party and to the mass protesters.

01:57:46.000 Sure, but if they can't co-opt it, I mean, they're training the army that it's the enemy.

01:57:50.000 That's outrageous.

01:57:51.000 Oh, absolutely, and we've seen this happen before.

01:57:55.000 We saw it happen in the 80s when people were opposed to U.S.

01:58:01.000 intervention in Central America.

01:58:02.000 We had anti-intervention groups being infiltrated by the CIA, FBI, and others, and we're seeing a replay of that.

01:58:12.000 Man, but it's on such a huge scale. 0.74

01:58:15.000 I mean, the government is just so rotten and evil.

01:58:18.000 And now announcing it's going to take your pension funds, but that's the patriotic thing to do.

01:58:22.000 Here, Goldman Sachs, here's all my money.

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01:58:27.000 Wayne, have a great weekend.

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