Alex Jones Show - 20100531_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 All right, we're back live.

00:00:14.000 We're now into hour number four.

00:00:16.000 We have a guest coming up.

00:00:21.000 I will intersperse some financial news and some treason news coming up during this interview.

00:00:28.000 Very important treason news coming up.

00:00:31.000 But right now, let's jam a few more phone calls in here.

00:00:35.000 Up next is Michael in Colorado.

00:00:37.000 Thanks for holding her on the air.

00:00:41.000 Hey, Alex.

00:00:42.000 Yes, sir.

00:00:44.000 Um, uh, to do with, uh, what you were saying, like, how the, they, uh, put things in front of our face before they, uh, execute the attack.

00:00:53.000 Uh, like last year, I was watching Discovery and, um, it was, it was a show about, like, ice ages, right?

00:00:59.000 So they, they get to this thing where they have all these scientists talking about the ice age and how they're actually talking about how there's an ice age coming instead of global warming.

00:01:08.000 That's not the point.

00:01:09.000 They were working on these satellites, right, with these reflectors.

00:01:13.000 And they were saying that, um, with like four or five of these lights pointed at one spot on the ocean, um, they would be able to raise, uh, the global temperature enough to battle this ice age or whatever.

00:01:27.000 And, um, but what they would need to do is have an oil slick on the ocean surface in order to bounce this ray into our atmosphere to bring up the temperature.

00:01:39.000 Well, I know this.

00:01:42.000 Now the UN is saying they're worried about global freezing, and we're supposed to forget about all their fake global warming, and they're teaching school kids we must stabilize the climate.

00:01:52.000 The climate is always unstable.

00:01:54.000 I mean, they're even trying to blame volcanoes on global warming now.

00:01:57.000 I mean, I joked about that a few weeks ago about the Iceland volcano.

00:02:02.000 They're now in the news saying, oh yes, thawing glaciers reduced pressure on the volcano.

00:02:08.000 That has nothing to do with it.

00:02:10.000 And by the way, glaciers worldwide in the last three years have been getting bigger!

00:02:15.000 So, I mean, they say the Haitian earthquake was caused by global warming.

00:02:20.000 They say the Chilean earthquake was caused by it.

00:02:25.000 Because they know the public is kind of halfway paying attention.

00:02:29.000 And, oh, you better pay Al Gore.

00:02:30.000 But, meanwhile, Al Gore says he believes that the sea levels are going to rise in the next ten years and flood all the major cities.

00:02:35.000 He's bought two mansions on waterfront property.

00:02:39.000 It's just made-up fraud. 1.00

00:02:41.000 He got this big, demonic, fat, lying piece of trash that told us NAFTA and GATT was going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. 1.00

00:02:50.000 And then he's up there saying, buy, pay him money. 1.00

00:02:54.000 And he will save you from raising water.

00:02:56.000 I mean, he's literally just a complete joke.

00:02:59.000 I appreciate your call.

00:03:00.000 Again, how did Napton Gatt turn out for you, folks?

00:03:03.000 Well, remember, he was the one pushing that.

00:03:05.000 He was the big spearhead on that.

00:03:06.000 He loves conning people. 0.94

00:03:08.000 He enjoys robbing you. 1.00

00:03:11.000 Al Gore is a piece of trash. 1.00

00:03:13.000 Chris in Boston, you're on the air. 1.00

00:03:14.000 Go ahead.

00:03:15.000 Hey, Alex.

00:03:16.000 How you doing, man?

00:03:17.000 Doing alright.

00:03:17.000 Good.

00:03:18.000 I hope you hear the word thank you enough every day, every week, because you're certainly doing a lot for our country.

00:03:23.000 Well, I appreciate you, buddy.

00:03:24.000 I'm just trying to save my family.

00:03:25.000 Go ahead.

00:03:26.000 Me too.

00:03:27.000 I have a ten-year-old son, so I hear that.

00:03:29.000 I'm a musician, actually a conservative libertarian musician living in Boston, so you can see how that works out for me here in liberal Boston.

00:03:37.000 Actually, Bob Chapman sent you a song that I wrote called Freedom.

00:03:42.000 I was on a radio program with him.

00:03:44.000 I'm not sure if you heard the song at all.

00:03:47.000 You know, it does ring a bell.

00:03:49.000 I mean, I've heard so much good music, I'll have to go pull it up.

00:03:53.000 Is it on YouTube?

00:03:54.000 Yeah, it's on YouTube, and you can look up, I think, April 28th, Bob sent you the email, the YouTube link.

00:04:00.000 But I wanted to, you know, if you ever want to use that song in front of your movies, free of charge, I just want to be part of the cause, and, you know... What's the name of this song on YouTube?

00:04:10.000 It's called Freedom.

00:04:11.000 Probably a lot of stuff under Freedom.

00:04:13.000 Yeah, look up Chris Ross, Freedom.

00:04:15.000 Okay, good, we'll check it out.

00:04:17.000 By the way, I looked up American Spectator, and I had the quote.

00:04:20.000 I'm not sure if anyone... What, by Rand Paul?

00:04:23.000 Yeah.

00:04:24.000 Yeah, give us the quote.

00:04:26.000 He basically just said, as a United States Senator, I would never vote to condemn Israel for defending herself.

00:04:31.000 And that's it.

00:04:33.000 Well, yeah, and I mean, if Israel gets attacked, then they have a right to defend themselves.

00:04:39.000 So how is that?

00:04:41.000 You've got the left media, you've got the right-wing media, they're all establishment incumbents attacking Rand Paul.

00:04:48.000 What does that tell you about him?

00:04:49.000 I mean, when you've got the entire fake political spectrum attacking him, you know he's good.

00:04:55.000 We'll be right back, stay with us.

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00:08:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:12.000 Christopher C. Horner is our guest for the rest of the hour.

00:08:16.000 He serves as a senior fellow at CEI, Competitive Enterprise Institute.

00:08:20.000 He's an attorney in Washington, D.C.

00:08:22.000 Warner is represented at CEI as well as scientists and members of the U.S. House and Senate on matters of environmental policy in the federal courts, including the Supreme Court.

00:08:31.000 He has written on numerous topics and publications ranging from law reviews to legal and industrial trade journals to print and online opinion pages.

00:08:40.000 And as the author of the two bestselling books, Red Hot Lies, How Global Warming Alarmists Use Threats, Fraud and Deception to Keep You Misinformed, Global Warming, Greenpeace has repeatedly targeted Mr. Horner by stealing his garbage on a weekly basis, issuing press releases announcing with whom he dines, and including him in various other hysterical publications.

00:09:00.000 Of course, they're funded by big central banks.

00:09:02.000 They have a fleet bigger than major governments' fleets.

00:09:07.000 They want to guilt you into handing everything over to the elite.

00:09:07.000 They want your property.

00:09:15.000 His new book is Power Grab, How Obama's Green Policies Will Steal Your Freedom and Bankrupt America.

00:09:22.000 Again, new book, Power Grab, How Obama's Green Policies Will Steal Your Freedom and Bankrupt America.

00:09:29.000 My issue here is rhetoric cannot describe how bad they are.

00:09:34.000 I mean, you watch Audi commercials like Green Police, that's actually what they're doing in Europe and what they have planned here.

00:09:41.000 This has nothing to do with the environment.

00:09:43.000 It's a bunch of control freaks running your life, controlling every facet of it.

00:09:50.000 They know global warming's a fraud.

00:09:52.000 They've already moved on to other scaremongering.

00:09:55.000 And they're not going to stop.

00:09:57.000 And they've said, even if the Senate won't pass this legislation, they don't care.

00:10:02.000 They're going to have the executive branch implement it. 0.94

00:10:04.000 So, if they are successful, it's over.

00:10:07.000 And look at how they cowed and beat Republicans into submission, because this is what the establishment wants.

00:10:14.000 Look at how BP's been one of their biggest funders of global carbon taxes.

00:10:18.000 A new derivative scam.

00:10:20.000 So Christopher C. Horner, author of Power Grab, that just came out, CEI.org is the website.

00:10:28.000 It's good to have you here with us, sir.

00:10:30.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:10:31.000 So much is going on.

00:10:32.000 Let's get into, since we had you on two or three months ago, what's happened with the power grab, the fake environmental movement, and what new heads the Hydra has sprouted, and where all this is going.

00:10:49.000 Okay, so about 11 months ago, the House passed this cap-and-trade bill.

00:10:54.000 It was about 1,300 pages long, and they Obviously did not read the bill.

00:11:00.000 They snuck in 300 more pages of buying votes at 3 a.m.

00:11:04.000 the morning of the vote.

00:11:07.000 And folks declared it dead in the Senate.

00:11:09.000 And then something strange happened.

00:11:11.000 People did get upset, and they had recently been talking about drill here, drill now, and we're sitting on the world's largest energy reserves, and the real national security issue is refusing to tap your domestic energy resources.

00:11:22.000 We won't pass an energy rationing scheme, right?

00:11:25.000 Well, about two and a half weeks ago, three weeks ago, Harry Reid, the Senate Majority Leader, openly said to Washington Papers, Politico, and I think The Hill, That he was going to suspend the committee process in the Senate in order to cramp cap-and-trade down, but they decided they wouldn't call it cap-and-trade.

00:11:43.000 Reid said, several people said things that are very important, there are four people, Harry Reid, John Kerry, Joe Lieberman, and Lindy Graham.

00:11:50.000 Harry Reid said, well, this would entail the jurisdiction of almost every Senate committee.

00:11:56.000 Now, pause and stop, why?

00:11:58.000 Because it impacts almost every aspect of your life, including the Senate Finance Committee, which writes tax law.

00:12:03.000 It's the biggest tax increase in our history, and so on.

00:12:06.000 Reid said, therefore, obviously the four Deers would just get confused, he's going to write the bill.

00:12:11.000 And he began bringing in constituencies, and that means not your listeners, by the way, it means even the chamber, and API, and green pressure groups.

00:12:19.000 And he asked them, what do you need in order to support this bill?

00:12:24.000 And he asked the Chamber of Commerce and the American Petroleum Institute, what do you need to not run those television ads?

00:12:30.000 Because both groups raised a lot of money to run ads educating voters on this energy tax, unless it gave them what they want.

00:12:39.000 And so far it appears they've probably got what they want, which is essentially a gas tax on top of the light switch tax to funnel money to projects.

00:12:48.000 And now they're claiming, I've heard them on the news, oh there's a new bill in the Senate to fund the cleanup in the Gulf.

00:12:54.000 How convenient that this BP spill happened when they're one of the biggest pushers of the carbon tax.

00:13:00.000 And how convenient they wouldn't put the booms in early in Louisiana and Mississippi and Florida and are letting the oil come in.

00:13:07.000 Oh, I'm afraid they have to have their taxes now.

00:13:10.000 Let me tell you something.

00:13:11.000 I was in the room with BP.

00:13:13.000 I sat in for a gentleman named Ken Lay.

00:13:16.000 Thirteen years ago this month, I was, as I've discussed with you, very briefly, I was the Director of Federal Government Relations for a company called Enron.

00:13:25.000 And my number one priority, I was told, after I took the job, was to get a global warming treaty and a domestic cap and trade scheme.

00:13:31.000 And the company they developed it with was BP, and they had set up this market with Goldman Sachs.

00:13:37.000 Oh! 0.60

00:13:37.000 This does fit very conveniently. 0.60

00:13:39.000 Look, I understand how it fits into the narrative today, but you have to understand, I was the crazy guy on the street corner muttering about this for about Six years before anybody... Oh, wait a second!

00:13:49.000 I got it!

00:13:49.000 It's called rent-seeking.

00:13:51.000 These businesses trying to make money the old-fashioned way by having their buddies in government agree to take some of their power in return for a guaranteed opposition to competition and a wealth transfer from you and me to them.

00:14:02.000 So they bought all these uneconomic industries like Enron had the world's largest windmill company they bought on the cheap.

00:14:08.000 It's now called GE Wind.

00:14:10.000 Well, I mean, here's an example.

00:14:11.000 BP will pay a billion dollar fine.

00:14:13.000 They've already made that in increased oil prices.

00:14:17.000 And then, now they'll get more liability protection from government.

00:14:20.000 Their competition won't be able to drill in the Gulf.

00:14:23.000 It's just like FEMA got more power by screwing up what happened in Katrina. 0.97

00:14:29.000 Well, I'll tell you this.

00:14:30.000 It's pretty clear that, well, in the public record, that the Green Groups, actually, with whom I met, by the way, that same day, in the same room, They were groups like Union of Concerned Scientists and Natural Resources Defense Council.

00:14:40.000 They were Baptist and bootlegger coalitions. 0.97

00:14:43.000 The green groups after the BP, after the well exploded, the green groups were shrieking to the White House, don't you dare burn that oil off.

00:14:54.000 And they screamed about consequences of burning, igniting the oil before it got too well mixed.

00:14:58.000 Well, as I said actually on a TV show I think that night, or within a few days, you have to understand something.

00:15:05.000 I could be as irresponsible as a lot of people were about Bush and just say, look, the administration, which by the way was BP's favorite political candidate over 20 years ago, the administration was just taking orders from its Green Group buddies and they want this to be as bad as it can possibly be because the damage, while real, is temporary. 0.52

00:15:26.000 The tragedy was the 11 men who lost their lives.

00:15:29.000 But this is a White House that says never let a good crisis go to waste.

00:15:32.000 They even engineer crises like claiming a global catastrophe from global warming.

00:15:37.000 And the Greens, of course, have never made money hand over fist like they have.

00:15:41.000 And for those that don't know, and for those that don't know, if they would have ignited this within hours, there would be almost zero problem.

00:15:48.000 Almost all of it would have burned off at the source.

00:15:51.000 Carbon dioxide would have been put into the atmosphere, you know, much smaller than a volcano. 0.94

00:15:56.000 Would have literally had almost no effect if they would have done what the old-timers did and set that sucker on fire until they figured out a plan to cap it. 1.00

00:16:07.000 And now we know why 35 days later the White House has done everything they can to block this because now they're going to get their carbon taxes that Paul Volcker demands we must have to pay Goldman Sachs their bonuses. 0.78

00:16:20.000 Now they're going to get it.

00:16:22.000 Let me tell you, okay, so we know what BP actually did engineer this, and the Greens are biting them as you knew they would. 0.95

00:16:29.000 BP and Enron were in on this from the beginning.

00:16:31.000 Again, I was in the room.

00:16:31.000 There's no point denying it.

00:16:33.000 The Greens did tell the White House, don't burn it off.

00:16:35.000 We just know the White House said, don't burn it off.

00:16:37.000 It probably is a co-incidence, and they weren't taking their marching orders from the Greens.

00:16:41.000 But, we know BP's been pushing an agenda that John Kerry said, even after the spill.

00:16:47.000 Ironically, he said, I've been working with these companies, BP and Shell, to write this law.

00:16:53.000 He said this, it's again in the public domain, so Harry Reid said I'm going to suspend the committee process like with healthcare.

00:16:59.000 John Kerry said I'm not going to call this bill cap and trade because I don't know what cap and trade means.

00:17:04.000 Yes he does, and it has cap and trade in it.

00:17:06.000 He just said it's mean if you call it that because of course, there's a memo I talk about in Powergraph written by Stanley Greenberg who was Bill Clinton's pollster.

00:17:16.000 He conducted some polling, and he said to his clients, who are Democratic politicians, you have to do two things.

00:17:22.000 Stop saying cap-and-trade and global warming, and start calling it something else.

00:17:26.000 And then it might work.

00:17:27.000 Don't change your agenda, just call the agenda something else.

00:17:29.000 Yeah, he called it our deteriorating atmosphere!

00:17:33.000 Well, he said, here are the catchphrases that I've pulled well.

00:17:36.000 Green jobs and clean energy.

00:17:38.000 So John Kerry said, I don't want to call it cap-and-trade, I don't know what cap-and-trade means.

00:17:41.000 It's a jobs and national security bill, clean energy, of course it is here.

00:17:45.000 Joe Lieberman said, oh, I don't want to call it cap-and-trade because you remember the artist formerly known as Prince?

00:17:51.000 Well, this is now called pollution emission.

00:17:54.000 He said that.

00:17:55.000 This is now called the pollution emission reduction credits or something.

00:17:59.000 He won't say cap-and-trade.

00:18:00.000 Lindsey Graham said two weeks ago, oh, this isn't a global warming bill because global warming no longer exists as a reason to pass legislation. 0.98

00:18:09.000 It's still the same bill.

00:18:11.000 He still said he'd vote for it.

00:18:12.000 He just took his name.

00:18:13.000 He said, I won't be a sponsor because I'll get in all sorts of trouble with my constituents, but I'll still support it.

00:18:19.000 But it's no longer the reason that it's always been.

00:18:22.000 The point of all this is, where I begin with the book, nobody says cap and trade would detectably impact the climate.

00:18:28.000 I repeat, nobody says the temperature after cap and trade would be any different than it otherwise was going to be.

00:18:34.000 It's not about the temperature.

00:18:35.000 It was offered in the name of the temperature.

00:18:40.000 Of course it's about deciding who can have industry, who can have businesses, and taxing the hell out of us.

00:18:45.000 Yep.

00:18:46.000 And in fact, here's what I do.

00:18:48.000 I begin by pointing out, we know it's not about the climate, so what's it about?

00:18:52.000 Well, it turns out it's about power.

00:18:53.000 It turns out that it is about They can't trust you with your various freedoms that they never thought they could trust you with anyway.

00:19:00.000 And I've got quotes in here that are out there that, for some reason, nobody's running with.

00:19:05.000 Carol Browner gave it.

00:19:06.000 She's the energy and climate czar who had a phony position, that position, created for her because she could never achieve Senate confirmation and she would cause great political havoc, of course, having been a commissioner for the Socialist International, if Obama tried to get her confirmed. 1.00

00:19:21.000 She was put into this phony position to lord over cabinet officials And she gave an interview to US News in March of last year in which she said...

00:19:28.000 It's their objective to get to the point where the electric utilities hold back power from you, so that you'll still be able to cool your home, just not as much as you would like.

00:19:37.000 Meaning what, Alex?

00:19:39.000 As much as they would like!

00:19:40.000 They're admitting it!

00:19:42.000 Stay there, this is incredible.

00:19:43.000 Let's come back and talk about the control freak Panopticon.

00:19:47.000 And Texas, I already had it put into my office that I couldn't say no.

00:19:51.000 California, they're gonna remote control your thermostat, they're gonna run everything and surveil you.

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00:23:58.000 All right, Chris Horner's new book is Power Grab.

00:24:05.000 We'll tell you how to get that before he leaves.

00:24:07.000 It's very important info, but all his books are best sellers, so you'll see it all over the place.

00:24:11.000 And again, I research this constantly.

00:24:13.000 Everything he's saying is on record.

00:24:15.000 He's bringing up Carol Browner.

00:24:16.000 He's going to go over more of these, like, we'll control your thermostat.

00:24:19.000 We'll run your life.

00:24:21.000 We're your God.

00:24:22.000 What about Elena Kagan?

00:24:24.000 Over and over again saying, if we don't like your speech, it's banned.

00:24:27.000 Or Cass Sunstein, or we're gonna get your guns.

00:24:31.000 Or the White House science czar, we're gonna put stuff in the water to sterilize you. 1.00

00:24:36.000 I mean, folks, I don't just say this, I have their white papers.

00:24:39.000 Here's Elena Kagan, University of Chicago Law Review.

00:24:42.000 I mean, I've got I've got the White House Science Czar's own textbook right here.

00:24:47.000 These people, these people are in league with Hitler and Stalin.

00:24:51.000 And I don't say that for rhetoric.

00:24:53.000 Let me go back to my guest.

00:24:54.000 Chris, you started reading her quotes.

00:24:57.000 It's just, it's like a bad dream.

00:24:59.000 I mean, how can these people be such dirtbags, so obviously evil, and such a threat to everybody?

00:25:07.000 I mean, most people I know with money are fleeing the country.

00:25:10.000 Go ahead.

00:25:11.000 Well, the one thing that's never changed is their utopian vision, their dystopian yes-me, but this idea that they will organize society.

00:25:19.000 What changes is their vehicle.

00:25:21.000 What's the excuse?

00:25:22.000 What's the latest victim that has to be rescued from the horrors of individual liberty?

00:25:26.000 And it was, of course, the worker, and the worker threw off those shackles, so it became the environment, which can't speak back.

00:25:31.000 Wealthier is healthier.

00:25:32.000 Wealthier is cleaner.

00:25:33.000 They have to know this, but they really hate wealth.

00:25:35.000 It's just the excuse, the latest excuse.

00:25:38.000 Freedom brings wealth, so they attack your freedom.

00:25:40.000 How badly?

00:25:42.000 Well, alright, the President has given some speeches that in isolation just seem weird.

00:25:46.000 He said, of course, under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity prices would necessarily skyrocket.

00:25:52.000 He said he would use it to bankrupt industries he didn't like.

00:25:56.000 His quote was, coal, you know, natural gas, whatever the industries.

00:26:00.000 Then he admitted it would be passed on to the consumer, and he said, and this will also raise billions of dollars.

00:26:06.000 Well, in the book, I detail how I used FOIA to get Treasury documents that say, there was a memo written six days after Obama was elected, in which they said, he wants to do this, here's what we can do.

00:26:17.000 And under the justification paragraph, they wrote, revenues.

00:26:21.000 This will raise, quote, possibly up to several percentage points of GDP, parentheses, i.e., Uh, the equivalent of the corporate income tax rate.

00:26:31.000 Or corporate income tax.

00:26:33.000 The corporate income tax, among the highest in the world, raises $400 billion per year.

00:26:38.000 The biggest tax increase in our history, to pay off World War II, which was an expiring tax, it cost the dollars $107 billion per year.

00:26:45.000 So we're talking about a spectacular amount of money.

00:26:48.000 But they don't just want to steal your money, they want to steal your freedoms.

00:26:51.000 He gave another speech in which he said that you can't eat what you want, drive what you want, or put your thermostat where you want.

00:26:56.000 The specific quote was, we can't eat as much as we want, drive our SUVs, and keep our thermostats at 72 degrees at all times, and expect that other countries are just going to say, okay.

00:27:06.000 Well, I didn't ask, okay?

00:27:08.000 But B, what is the President of the United States doing obsessing about how much I can eat, what I can drive, and where I can put my thermostat?

00:27:15.000 Well he's also playing us off against other countries and invoking hatred of us.

00:27:20.000 It's like he had Calderon here last week saying, ban all our semi-automatic rifles and handguns.

00:27:26.000 This is the Socialist Internationale.

00:27:29.000 This is their mode.

00:27:30.000 Well, sovereignty is not a big thing to them.

00:27:32.000 They do believe that one way to skin this cat is through... Global governance is not the same as a global government, though the global governance crowd would of course love that.

00:27:41.000 I'm just saying, he's a big proponent of global governance.

00:27:44.000 What I'd like to do, if we can stay when I come back, is talk about the way they want to control your thermostat, and you're not going to believe the documents that someone slipped me.

00:27:53.000 But he, the Guardian in the UK, Old Red herself, ...reported that the Obama administration was briefing European diplomats before Copenhagen that failed... Thank goodness... Oh yeah, no, no, they're gonna tax you for any amount and then they say in peak times they're gonna control it.

00:28:08.000 That's actually... They're announcing that in California.

00:28:10.000 Start getting into it right now.

00:28:12.000 Well, okay, well, they want to use these things called smart meters.

00:28:15.000 Smart meters put the meat on the bones of what Carol Browner said when she said, we want to get to a system whereby the utility holds back power from you.

00:28:23.000 Why would a utility hold back power from you?

00:28:24.000 They're in the business of selling you power.

00:28:26.000 Because there's physical scarcity, which this crowd is arranging, as I detail in the book, and because they've got a requirement that they hold back power from you.

00:28:34.000 So the state is going to use the utility, according to the energy czar, to decide, she said, you'll still be able to cool your home.

00:28:41.000 Just not as much as you would like, which means just as much as they would like.

00:28:45.000 Well, it turns out, the Assistant Secretary of Energy for Energy Efficiency, a woman who was Al Gore's CEO before she took this job, making $325,000 a year as a Green Pressure Group CEO.

00:28:57.000 She divested herself of utility stocks because of course the appearances would be terrible if she didn't. 0.68

00:29:03.000 But someone slipped me her financial disclosure documents and guess what?

00:29:06.000 She held on to a half million dollars in a smart meter company.

00:29:11.000 How about that?

00:29:12.000 Assistant Secretary of Energy for Energy Efficiency, in charge of getting the smart meter mandate in, that Carol Browner says is the way, that you can't control your thermostat, the state will, and we've got a woman who held on to between $265,000 and $550,000 of smart meter company stock, in addition to another great good jobs company, her husband's.

00:29:33.000 It's incredible, stay there.

00:29:35.000 Folks, this is why I get angry, and you should be angry too.

00:29:39.000 They're openly saying they're going to decide what temp your house is.

00:29:44.000 Naked body scanners aren't enough.

00:29:46.000 All their taxes aren't enough.

00:29:48.000 Nothing is enough for these people.

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00:33:00.000 We're going back to Christopher Horner right now.

00:33:08.000 New book, Power Draft, Obama's Green Policies Will Steal Your Freedom in Bankrupt America.

00:33:13.000 But Matt Ryan for years, who's one of the TV slash radio board ops and producers, he worked at Austin Energy.

00:33:23.000 And of course, he's talked about the meetings where they'd point out that the illegal aliens wouldn't pay their power bill.

00:33:28.000 The city just said, let them have free power. 0.97

00:33:30.000 I've talked to Austin cops.

00:33:31.000 They're ordered to let them go, DWI.

00:33:34.000 That's a separate issue, though.

00:33:36.000 But I walked out during the break and I said, well, the city didn't ask us here at our business.

00:33:40.000 They came and stuck the new smart thermostat on last year.

00:33:44.000 And in the brochure it said, well, since your thermostat was free, businesses don't have an option, you know, free, taxpayer paid for it, we may turn your heat down in the winter, or your cool, you know, up in the summer, if we're having problems supplying power.

00:34:01.000 Now that was the old Enron scam, where they got caught to create artificial scarcity, where they were showing congressmen and the state legislature fake computer trades on computers.

00:34:11.000 They were just making up the price, and their internal studies showed if we double or triple prices, or even turn power off, that creates the perception that it's scarce.

00:34:20.000 And now they're doing it with the water, with power. 0.96

00:34:22.000 This Green Movement is about raping you. 1.00

00:34:25.000 But I briefly wanted Matt Ryan here on air, I mean, plus we can dig up the Austin Energy contract, says it. 0.97

00:34:32.000 I mean, I'd read this, but he goes, no, you're absolutely correct.

00:34:34.000 Austin already has this.

00:34:37.000 They already control this building's thermostat.

00:34:41.000 I am under these criminals' control.

00:34:44.000 Matt Ryan, tell folks.

00:34:45.000 Right.

00:34:45.000 These programmable thermostats are one of the green initiatives sponsored by Austin Energy.

00:34:50.000 You call them up.

00:34:51.000 They'll give you a free thermostat, a programmable thermostat.

00:34:54.000 It'll work for you 24-7 around the clock, except during what they call peak usage times, which

00:35:02.000 is a time period usually in the afternoon when they say okay well there's a lot of people turning their ACs on they can turn yours off and they will turn yours off for usually about 15 minutes during a day when they they feel that they're having peak usage and that's in the federal legislation to even control what what goes in air conditioners right just like your cell phone since 96 tracks you in real time they're designing the big brother grid but I want to tell you with this business we don't have a choice They are our lord.

00:35:31.000 They are our king.

00:35:32.000 I can't tell you how many times I got a call from an apartment tenant saying, why did y'all come out here and put this in?

00:35:38.000 I do not want this meter in here.

00:35:40.000 And it's their landlord that said, oh, programmable thermostats, that's a perk.

00:35:44.000 We'll give it to all of our tenants.

00:35:46.000 And whether they like it or not, and believe me, they would complain, they got an all-energy thermostat.

00:35:51.000 I want to have you back and talk about this more in the future.

00:35:53.000 I want to go back to Christopher Horner, but thank you for coming in and telling us.

00:35:56.000 So Christopher Horner, here we are.

00:35:58.000 I mean, I'm already under these people's control, and if they can naked body scan my kids to fly, if they can control the temperature in my office, I mean, literally, this is worse than the Soviet Union. 0.94

00:36:09.000 What they're talking about is squeezing you at both ends.

00:36:12.000 They're trying to ration the physical supply, create physical scarcity where there should not be any.

00:36:18.000 Remember, the United States sits on the world's largest energy reserves.

00:36:21.000 We don't have physical scarcity that would lead to this sort of, in essence, micro-brown-out.

00:36:27.000 But you're going to get to the larger point of brownouts, because we're following the UK's path of saying, no coal, no nuclear, we'll just build offshore wind farms someday, and then you're going to see them obsessing about the fact that when they get to the Olympics, they're actually not going to have the electricity.

00:36:40.000 But what you've got here is, Browner is saying things like, okay, this is not just the smart meter that will tell us when you're using your energy.

00:36:47.000 What, I guess, that Kathy's always also invested in with this company Landis & Gear, a Swiss smart mirror company, half a million dollars worth of stock, and just wait until she succeeds in getting those mandated in one of the biggest markets in the world.

00:37:02.000 They're talking about also getting to the point, like Matt was discussing, whereby they can say, I'm sorry, you've been running your dishwasher too often, wrong time of day, closed washer, sorry.

00:37:12.000 Carol Browner sold it in this interview to U.S.

00:37:14.000 News as a savings to the consumer, and I just want your listeners to know they're saving a fortune in India right now, in Haiti, and all over the world by not using energy.

00:37:24.000 But we live in the richest country in the world, sitting on top of the world's largest energy resources, but that means we have freedom, and they don't like it.

00:37:30.000 Van Jones, the communist self-avowed communist radical, he said, this is a quote, also in the book, among many others, the green economy will start off as a small subset and we will push it and push it and push it until it becomes the engine for, wait for it, Transforming the whole society.

00:37:49.000 Yes, he said that.

00:37:50.000 It always comes down to this is the vehicle for doing to this terribly flawed transgressor of America that they have to fundamentally transform.

00:38:00.000 This is the vehicle.

00:38:01.000 This is the excuse.

00:38:02.000 Your freedoms are simply nothing.

00:38:04.000 You can be trusted.

00:38:05.000 And then meanwhile, Enron, and of course you briefly worked for them for about a month and you quit and exposed it all on record and valiantly so, they wrote the cap-and-trade carbon tax fraud, literally made-off level.

00:38:18.000 Going back to California, they tried the same scam there, and in their memos it said, we turn their power off, then they perceive it's more valuable, they'll put up with a triple price increase. 0.99

00:38:29.000 Ha ha ha, we're raping these schmucks. 1.00

00:38:32.000 I mean, so you've got the big money, it's just not free market money, who wants this government monopoly. 1.00

00:38:37.000 I think that's the key to defeat these little green devils, is to expose that they could care less about the environment. 0.99

00:38:45.000 This is all a way just to run everybody's lives.

00:38:48.000 Yeah, the temperature after cabin tray will be, according to everybody, whatever it would have been.

00:38:52.000 So we know it's not about that.

00:38:54.000 It's an excuse.

00:38:55.000 And the point is, the President comes out there, and this is another quote, he said, some of America's biggest companies support this by way of saying, so it must be a good idea.

00:39:02.000 Of course, that's usually his position, right?

00:39:05.000 No one's ever asked publicly, okay, but why?

00:39:09.000 Why is GE, which has Enron's old windmills, which nobody wants unless you mandate and heavily subsidize them, Why is the gas... Did you know the gas industry is actually running these ads calling for more windmills?

00:39:21.000 Because more windmills simply mean more gas.

00:39:23.000 You can't really dial a coal plant up and down to meet the...

00:39:28.000 Oh yeah, they know the wind doesn't work, doesn't transfer the power.

00:39:36.000 They love it.

00:39:37.000 Exactly, the gas refining companies, they love it. 1.00

00:39:39.000 They go, sure idiots, get rid of coal. 1.00

00:39:42.000 Shut down what produces 51% of our power. 1.00

00:39:45.000 Shut down our competition.

00:39:46.000 We love it!

00:39:48.000 Well, you're right about creating artificial scarcity.

00:39:52.000 The seeming paradox of it, and business is pushing the idea of scarcity, but you also pointed out why businesses can benefit from scarcity.

00:40:01.000 Now what I did in the book is I pointed out this is by no means, and it's obviously the world's second oldest profession, But this also has a very long history in the U.S., and there are left-wingers who point out that the history of the progressive movement was the corporate tie-ups to keep competition out, to lock in a nice livelihood for themselves with their buddies in government.

00:40:21.000 And this is absolutely reminiscent of that for reasons I go into.

00:40:25.000 And, again, it started with railroads and then various other industries.

00:40:29.000 We've now got it with something extremely important to your lives and your family's lives and our national security and your family's security.

00:40:36.000 That is energy.

00:40:37.000 They're seeking to script scarcity, dangerous scarcity, in the name of a boogeyman that keeps changing, and now it's national security.

00:40:45.000 But then they'll be the savior with your energy allotment of your poor. 0.67

00:40:49.000 Once they make you poor, now you're dependent on them and you'll vote.

00:40:53.000 You want power in the winter, old lady? 1.00

00:40:55.000 Vote to ban the Second Amendment.

00:40:59.000 Well, I'll tell you this.

00:41:01.000 This is a very big tent, probably for a lot of reasons.

00:41:04.000 There's a strange thing going on when you look at why are the population zealots so supportive of this?

00:41:11.000 Why are the fallen communists so supportive?

00:41:13.000 The persistent communists, the Greens, the Reds, the pro-tax, the anti-development.

00:41:18.000 There is a very broad coalition here that I want to I want folks to think about this.

00:41:24.000 Why is this extremely disparate group, along with some of, as the President said, America's biggest companies, pushing something?

00:41:30.000 You're not at the table to get essentially screwed.

00:41:33.000 They're negotiating you out of the deal, but at your expense.

00:41:36.000 All of them have this agenda in common.

00:41:37.000 Why?

00:41:38.000 And the why is, again, the point of the book.

00:41:40.000 This is a vehicle.

00:41:42.000 For their long-held wish list of organizing society.

00:41:46.000 And there will be trade-offs, yes, involved, and your life will be very different.

00:41:50.000 And when they orchestrate collapse, on one level or another, it's true, they rush in with more state as the solution.

00:41:57.000 Now, the President is lecturing Spain to cut it out right now, because he doesn't want them to drag us down, be the next Greece, and drag us down with them, because he's got a fundamental transformation to impose here.

00:42:07.000 But last week, in a Spanish newspaper, La Gazeta, there was a full-paged Yeah, I saw that.

00:42:20.000 So here's the deal.

00:42:21.000 Their globalization, their command destruction, their neo-feudalism has been too good at destroying things and so it's blowing up in their face before they get all the vice grips in place.

00:42:35.000 I have to say that when the state controls power, the state controls an awful lot.

00:42:40.000 And what this agenda does is transfer basic energy use and production and transmission, all these decisions from individuals, producers and consumers to the state.

00:42:49.000 And when you do that, you are giving up an awful lot of your liberties.

00:42:53.000 Now, I married a European.

00:42:54.000 She's from a country where they have a joke, at least they're still laughing for now, that it's a good thing we don't have all the cars we pay for. 0.98

00:43:01.000 Where would we put them?

00:43:02.000 What they mean by that in Denmark is, Through the Special Assessment and the VAT, they have doubled the price of cars there, in order to force scarcity upon the public, because it's a wealthy country, and they would have all these cars.

00:43:15.000 Oh, no!

00:43:16.000 The statists didn't care for that.

00:43:17.000 And so what they did is they, in effect, doubled the price of a vehicle to force the population out of automobility.

00:43:23.000 Now, when you start letting go of automobility, pretty soon you'll find yourself letting go of control of every basic decision, like The temp, as you pointed out.

00:43:32.000 Now when you let go of things like this, please don't be surprised when you wake up one morning and there's an awful lot more that's just gone.

00:43:39.000 Well, no.

00:43:39.000 I mean, the social engineers admit that they want to have one-child policy, that they want to decide what we're going to be when we grow up.

00:43:47.000 They're literally organizing all of human society in a nightmarish way.

00:43:52.000 I mean, we know when people try to organize things, you know, from top down, it always is a disaster.

00:43:57.000 But they want to wreck things.

00:43:59.000 And that's my next question to you, because you're, you know, an insider who really studies this.

00:44:03.000 Every incumbent, whether Republican or Democrat, is being thrown out of office.

00:44:07.000 Whether it's Specter, whether it's what just happened with the congressional seat in Hawaii, whether it's Massachusetts, it doesn't matter.

00:44:15.000 I've never seen such a realignment against the establishment.

00:44:19.000 So they've really, you know, Obama was the fake revolution against Bush.

00:44:23.000 Now people realize, my God, Obama is the real takeover.

00:44:28.000 And so people are really, I mean, Zbigniew Brzezinski last week said our global governance is in trouble.

00:44:34.000 He said, the people have finally woken up worldwide to us.

00:44:37.000 We're now in trouble.

00:44:38.000 I don't know if you saw that speech.

00:44:39.000 But they admit they're in trouble.

00:44:42.000 How do you see them striking back?

00:44:44.000 I mean, because from every way I slice this, we are now really at the make it or break it crossroads.

00:44:52.000 Well, there is a real push, and again, I was in the room in The Hague in November 2000 when Jacques Chirac gave his speech calling Kyoto the global warming treaty that covered 35 industrial titans like Iceland, Luxembourg, Belgium, Slovenia, Slovakia, but not China, India, Mexico, Brazil, and so on.

00:45:08.000 I was in the room with some members of Congress and a few other Americans who were the only ones surprised when Jacques Chirac, who at the time was the President of France, said Kyoto was the first component of an authentic global governance.

00:45:19.000 Jim Sensenbrenner is a Wisconsin Republican who marched outside and held an impromptu press conference, but I stood there watching the left-wing press swearing at him, the Guardian reporter was swearing bollocks at him, as Sensenbrenner said, if you want to keep us out of something, call it global governance.

00:45:33.000 Well, I said the Guardian noted that Obama's diplomats were telling EU diplomats there may be a delay on Kyoto 2 in the United States because he's considering something called a Congressional Executive Agreement.

00:45:46.000 That was, I heard you mention NAFTA before.

00:45:48.000 NAFTA is precedent. 0.80

00:45:49.000 It's never been tried, the constitutionality of this.

00:45:52.000 It did not get to this.

00:45:53.000 But the issue of Congress waiving Article 2, Section 2 ratification, advice and consent, the two-thirds ratification, NAFTA was a treaty between three countries that Congress just said is not a treaty.

00:46:05.000 And they granted something called Fast Track Authority, which is a suggestion of what should be in it, and a promise to give it an up or down, no amendment, no filibuster, 50 plus 1 vote in both houses.

00:46:18.000 Now, if you do this, and the administration apparently is telling Europeans, we may have to try this because we're going to call Kyoto 2 not a treaty, You're going to have a problem because it's then left up to the courts and you know how activist they've become.

00:46:30.000 But what you're talking about is you have one bite at the apple.

00:46:33.000 Don't trust the courts.

00:46:34.000 You saw campaign finance.

00:46:36.000 Oh, don't worry, the court will fix it.

00:46:38.000 What you have to do is block it at the granting of fast track for Kyoto 2.

00:46:38.000 Don't trust them.

00:46:43.000 They won't call it Kyoto 2.

00:46:45.000 They're going to call it Johannesburg because that's where the World Environment Summit is in 2012.

00:46:51.000 They're actually going to try to get Kyoto 2 according to Lefty advisors to Obama, like this fella Nigel Purvis, who's counseling him, just declared this next key global warming treaty not a treaty.

00:47:06.000 It's got all, it quacks, flies and does everything, oh and he's like a duck.

00:47:10.000 But if you get Congress to say it's not a treaty, and the only difference is it means no two-thirds ratification, well that's your one bite at the apple.

00:47:19.000 The courts aren't going to help you is my guess.

00:47:22.000 And you have a 50 plus 1 requirement and it would take You know, you see incumbents being thrown out, but I just don't know, given the way, you know, you didn't see the Democrats... So they're going to come at us with a violation of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, treason, like this article.

00:47:38.000 Top official says Feds may not process illegals.

00:47:42.000 Referred from Arizona.

00:47:44.000 So, you know, citizens have no rights, but if illegal aliens get arrested, we won't pick them up. 0.98

00:47:49.000 So it's the same thing here.

00:47:50.000 The federal government just doesn't care what we say or who we elect or what we do.

00:47:54.000 They're just going to do it because they're God.

00:47:57.000 Expanding on that and, you know, trying to see where you see this going.

00:48:03.000 What about the Republicans?

00:48:05.000 I mean, you know, they've got a big hand in allowing this to happen as well.

00:48:09.000 Yeah, you've got a problem.

00:48:11.000 Right now, for example, this week, we're supposed to have a vote, just requires 51 or 50 votes, not 60, saying EPA does not have the authority to do this through the back door.

00:48:21.000 This, of course, came through the courts.

00:48:22.000 It was a 5-4 decision.

00:48:24.000 We lost.

00:48:25.000 I represented the skeptic scientists in this case.

00:48:27.000 The Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in Massachusetts versus EPA, saying EPA has the authority, does not have to, but has the authority to treat exhalation as pollution.

00:48:38.000 Well, there's a resolution by Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, and she's saying EPA does not... Congress is allowed to vote veto major rules within 60 days.

00:48:48.000 And she's saying no.

00:48:50.000 The problem is it has 41 co-sponsors, 3 Democrats, and that means 3 Republicans have said no.

00:48:55.000 They're from the Northeast, to no surprise, Scott Brown, and the ladies from Maine.

00:49:00.000 Now, Scott Brown, during the campaign, said, climate change is, we all know this, what I don't want to do is something as big as what EPA is proposing, or cap and trade, without getting to the bottom of the scientific scandals.

00:49:11.000 Well, I assure you we've not gotten to the bottom of the scientific scandals.

00:49:14.000 I submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the University of Virginia on Friday.

00:49:18.000 I'm not sure how far we'll get, but we will litigate it.

00:49:21.000 We're suing NASA probably this week for our own climate case.

00:49:24.000 We're pushing this.

00:49:25.000 But right now we've already got three Republicans in the Senate who have not co-sponsored a bill to say EPA will not do this to the back door.

00:49:33.000 Instead, the world's greatest deliberative body, why, we shall deliberate on what will be the biggest intervention in our economy and our history.

00:49:41.000 And you have three Republicans not just co-sponsoring this thing?

00:49:44.000 You need to shut down the business of the Senate if the administration tries to do this through the back door and three Republicans have not codified it.

00:49:52.000 Is that why they're so scared of Rand Paul?

00:49:54.000 Because he gave that speech saying, we're not going to let you use fake environmentalism to shut our economy down?

00:50:01.000 I'm sure he troubled some by pointing some things out.

00:50:04.000 I was told by the Spanish green jobs professor, Dr. Calzada, in an email that ran Paul, in one of his acceptance speeches, pointed out that there's a new steel mill in Kentucky, the North American Stainless Plant, with 175 workers.

00:50:16.000 I write about this in my book, Power Grab, in which those steel workers are jobs that are sent from Spain because of cap and trade and green jobs schemes.

00:50:24.000 The CEO was very clear.

00:50:26.000 He said, you can make windmills out of steel, but you can't make steel using windmills.

00:50:28.000 I'm paraphrasing.

00:50:30.000 But Rand Paul pointed this out, and I don't think people in Washington like to hear the idea that the state is not responsible for economic growth.

00:50:39.000 Yeah, I mean, the grass grows, the sky is blue, the sun comes up in the morning because... because Barack Obama reads off a teleprompter.

00:50:50.000 Stay there.

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00:54:35.000 So you've got big mega-corporations in bed with government to create monopolies. 0.61

00:54:40.000 As John D. Rockefeller I said, competition is a sin.

00:54:44.000 And this will destroy our free market system that's made this nation so great.

00:54:48.000 It has nothing to do with the environment.

00:54:50.000 Chris, we were talking during the break.

00:54:53.000 You pled, you know, many times before the Supreme Court.

00:54:56.000 The arrogance level, though, I mean, I don't see Republicans opposing Elena Kagan, who is like Joe Stalin in drag or something, and then I was talking to you about what's happening with BP, and, you know, it just seems like it's a lawlessness, but give us your take on that in closing.

00:55:12.000 Well, what we said before going out last time was the idea to many elected officials that Washington is not responsible for economic growth is anathema here.

00:55:21.000 So somebody like Rand Paul, who's going to come up and say those things, Uh, it's going to be a troublemaker and isolated.

00:55:27.000 You've got companies like BP who choose.

00:55:29.000 Remember, their favorite politician in the last two decades was Barack Obama, a guy who swore to cause your listeners' energy prices to skyrocket.

00:55:38.000 BP had no problem with that.

00:55:39.000 Obama swore he had no problem with high gas prices.

00:55:43.000 He just said they shouldn't go up too fast for the obvious reason.

00:55:45.000 People will start calling for Uh, policies that will allow us greater access to the greatest energy reserves in the world.

00:55:52.000 So you've got a problem with these companies like BP that are a bit, look, they can have their public spats now, but it's not that much of a spat.

00:55:59.000 BP remains in bed mostly with the left, sometimes with the right, uh, in Washington-style right, because they, like Enron, lost the plot.

00:56:08.000 They began as an energy company and then they started to try to make money off of derivatives and windmills and solar panels and pushing paper and not making anything.

00:56:15.000 They tried to make money off of doing nothing.

00:56:18.000 Now, a couple of months after I left Enron in 97, there was an Oval Office meeting, August 4th, 1997, Sir John Brown of BP and Ken Lay from Enron, with the President of the United States and the Vice President Al Gore.

00:56:32.000 And on August 1st, 1997, a Friday, in preparation for the Monday Oval Office meeting, there was a briefing memo written for Ken Lay, which is available online at masterresource.org.

00:56:42.000 You can find it.

00:56:43.000 In it, they say, okay, the unanimous Senate, I mean, the context was, a week or so before, the Senate had unanimously said, don't go to Kyoto and do this.

00:56:50.000 So these two fellows, Ken Lay and John Brown of BP, go into the Oval Office, and they say, ignore that Senate.

00:56:57.000 You gotta go to Kyoto, and you gotta do it, and here's what it has to be.

00:57:00.000 And since, obviously, we know who won that one, there's a memo also available at Master Resource, and I discussed it in my book, from Ken Lay's Kyoto advisor from Kyoto, Five months later, saying this treaty is exactly what we've been lobbying for.

00:57:14.000 So the unanimous Senate gets ignored when they say, look, you know, we go along with a lot, but not this.

00:57:19.000 Not what Jacques Chirac calls global governance.

00:57:21.000 Not an obvious wealth transfer.

00:57:23.000 Not obviously rationing energy here.

00:57:25.000 How has the Senate changed, though?

00:57:26.000 I mean, they can see that everything Obama's doing is political suicide, and still it looks like they'll be able to pass it.

00:57:32.000 I mean, are they all bought off?

00:57:33.000 Are they blackmailed?

00:57:34.000 What's going on?

00:57:35.000 Well, Lindsey Graham's got so much pushback. 1.00

00:57:37.000 He was the test case, and now the folks in South Carolina aren't happy with him, and so he says he'll vote for it, but he won't be a co-sponsor.

00:57:43.000 Look, progress, I know, as Cap Weinberger said about detente, if this is progress, we can't afford much more progress, but you start setting some examples here.

00:57:52.000 When Democrats are running as anti-capitrators, as happened in the Pennsylvania race, in which they succeeded, when Scott Brown wins Massachusetts, saying in Cambridge, No, no, no.

00:58:01.000 You don't do this to get to the bottom of what stinks.

00:58:03.000 Of course, we don't know where he's going to vote on this thing.

00:58:05.000 You are turning a very big ship of statism trying to steal your liberties.

00:58:09.000 But read that book and listen to what they're saying.

00:58:12.000 No, no, I agree with you.

00:58:13.000 I mean, we're having victories that they're having to bait and switch now and aren't calling it cap and trade.

00:58:18.000 Amazing.

00:58:19.000 Christopher Horner, thank you for coming on with us.

00:58:21.000 The book is Power Grab.

00:58:22.000 In stores all over.

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00:58:25.000 We'll talk to you again soon.

00:58:27.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:58:27.000 You bet.

00:58:28.000 I'm out of time.

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01:00:21.000 It is Thursday, the 27th day of May, 2010.

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01:00:46.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts quit doing his twice a week column and said he wanted to take some time off, but I knew a fighter for liberty, I knew he wasn't going away.

01:00:54.000 So I called him up a few months ago and I said, look, you can take some time for yourself, you're not going anywhere.

01:01:00.000 Somebody that loves liberty can't control themselves.

01:01:04.000 And so it's good to have him, but he has cut back on what he's been doing, but it's great to have him with us and I was glad to get an email from him.

01:01:10.000 Pointing out, hey, look at how there's all this evidence that our government, now been declassified knowingly, many times has left POWs behind.

01:01:17.000 Not just in Vietnam, not just Korea, but World War II.

01:01:20.000 What does this say about the mindset of the elite?

01:01:24.000 And so he wanted to come on and talk about that.

01:01:26.000 We're always honored to have him.

01:01:27.000 But we'll cover about 20-30 minutes on that.

01:01:30.000 Then I want to pick his brain because he is the father of economics.

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01:01:43.000 So I want to get into North Korea. 0.97

01:01:45.000 I ran with him.

01:01:46.000 I want to get into the economy.

01:01:47.000 I mean, they're openly talking about worldwide meltdown now all over the news.

01:01:51.000 And of course you talked about this years ago via the derivatives and everything.

01:01:55.000 So we're going to talk about it all with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts in the next hour.

01:02:00.000 Doc, it's good to have you here with us.

01:02:03.000 Hi, Alex.

01:02:04.000 You look good there via Skype video feed.

01:02:07.000 Right, well thank you.

01:02:09.000 So much is going on, so much is happening, but we're going to go to break in a few minutes, but get into this whole POW situation and your research on that.

01:02:19.000 Well, you know, it's not my research.

01:02:21.000 It's Sidney Schoenberg, the Pulitzer Prize winning New York Times reporter and editor.

01:02:30.000 He has proven beyond all doubt and presents all the evidence that American prisoners of war were left behind in Vietnam.

01:02:42.000 So that's the scandal.

01:02:44.000 The second scandal is that every administration since Richard Nixon's has continued to cover up And the third scandal is that despite his high standing in journalism and all the prizes and the Pulitzer Prize and his high post at the New York Times, he was never allowed to write the story.

01:03:08.000 And so it only came out in an out-of-the-way publication a year or two ago, about two years ago.

01:03:15.000 Yeah, we actually interviewed the folks involved at the time.

01:03:18.000 In fact, I think I even interviewed him.

01:03:19.000 In fact, let's get him back on.

01:03:21.000 Or some of the families involved.

01:03:23.000 But the issue is, when I say your research, I'm saying, you know, you're writing about this now.

01:03:30.000 Your research into how this ties in to the mindset of the ruling class.

01:03:35.000 Yes.

01:03:36.000 Yes, I think that now that we have definite proof from a very credible source, Sidney Schoenberg, that the United States government conducted a conspiracy since the 1970s to hide the fact that they abandoned American prisons of war to the North Vietnamese This is now proven. 0.70

01:04:02.000 This might make Americans wonder if other so-called conspiracy theories are also true, such as the theory that 9-11 was an inside job or a false flag operation.

01:04:18.000 It might make people wonder if the Warren Commission's account of Kennedy's assassination was just another cover-up.

01:04:30.000 The same for Robert Kennedy's assassination.

01:04:33.000 Well, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, stay there.

01:04:35.000 When we come back, let's go through this Pulitzer Prize winner's piece, recap it, go through the piece, and then let's expand into the mindset of an establishment why they would do such a thing.

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01:08:36.000 and England wanted to be buddies with Stalin.

01:08:38.000 They divided up Eastern Europe and he was a thug and kept them for intelligence purposes and they just let him keep them. 0.72

01:08:45.000 And a few years ago, that actually even came out in Russian newspapers.

01:08:49.000 You know, old Americans, World War II vets, 80-plus years old, still alive in Russia.

01:08:55.000 And it's been confirmed with Korea, it's been confirmed with Vietnam.

01:08:58.000 We've had the families on, they've had congressional hearings that the media doesn't cover.

01:09:02.000 They've had National Press Club meetings.

01:09:05.000 But then when I got an email a few days ago from Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, father of Reaganomics, former head of Policy Department of Treasury under Reagan, former Wall Street Journal editor, Pointing out that he was going to write an article dealing with the fact that if it's a Pulitzer Prize winning New York Times editor for years isn't allowed to publish in a mainstream publication his research that's ironclad that this is all confirmed.

01:09:34.000 I mean it's ridiculous how confirmed it is.

01:09:36.000 It's like confirming that Mount St.

01:09:38.000 Helens blew up in the early 1980s.

01:09:40.000 It's a fact, it happened.

01:09:42.000 Or that, you know, the first creature in space was a dog from Russia.

01:09:45.000 It's a fact.

01:09:48.000 And, you know, the angle... And, of course, Roberts wasn't listening to me.

01:09:53.000 He separately put two and two together, because we're all having these same understandings that if they'll leave our troops to die, or if they'll... It's like Doug Rocky I've had on.

01:10:02.000 He was the head of the DU program for more than a decade.

01:10:05.000 He wrote the handbooks for the Pentagon in the 80s.

01:10:07.000 They knew DU would kill anybody collectively that breathed it.

01:10:13.000 And they just, in the mid-90s, changed the rules and said it's now good for you, no problem, and the State Department says it's a conspiracy theory on their website if you say it's bad.

01:10:24.000 I mean, they absolutely know you breathe this, the particulate, the radiation, it's gonna kill you.

01:10:31.000 I mean, it's gonna, you know, may take a few years, but you're dead.

01:10:34.000 Now they just say it's good for you.

01:10:37.000 This shows you the mindset, and I liken it, and we're going to Dr. Roberts, but I want to make this point, to chess being invented 3,500 years ago in northern India and what's Iran today.

01:10:50.000 They debate who invented it, but it came from that area.

01:10:53.000 And in it, you have the gambit, the sacrifice of a pawn.

01:10:58.000 That's a good move early on in basic chess.

01:11:00.000 I'm not a good chess player, but I play some.

01:11:03.000 sacrificing a pawn and it's a special forces tactic in the books it's taught at West Point send in you know 20 guys first to go last to know they're gonna get wiped out but that's gonna bring in the enemy into the gorge that will then reveal their positions and you can then wipe out the larger force and the argument is you lose 20 men but you save thousands in the battle by losing the 20 men so that's why they stage 9/11 that's why they say so what 21,000 US troops, give them to Stalin.

01:11:32.000 That's why they say, you know, hundreds and hundreds of U.S.

01:11:34.000 troops, it was thousands, most of them dead.

01:11:36.000 You know, let them be slaves, let them be tortured to death for 30 years in Vietnam. 0.98

01:11:43.000 It's the gambit. 0.82

01:11:45.000 And that's the beginning of evil.

01:11:46.000 That's why special forces people, before they graduate, they are given For Delta Force level, they're given it one night to read the prints by Machiavelli and then to write a paper.

01:11:57.000 And if they say, I believe the end justifies the means, they go, you're the man we're looking for, you're now recruited.

01:12:02.000 If they say, no, I won't kill children, this is now an army manual declassified last year, what was leaked by WikiLeaks from 2004, where it talks about staging false flag terror attacks.

01:12:13.000 One of the favorites is to kill children, blame it on a foreign enemy. 0.98

01:12:15.000 Captains and above in black ops are now taught this, and the argument is, well we're fighting commies or we're fighting Muslims, they're going to kill more children if we don't kill a few, you know, for the overall good. 0.98

01:12:25.000 And that's kind of the straight razor, you know, statement in Apocalypse Now, where Colonel Kurtz is talking about what he's had to do to win.

01:12:32.000 And so this is the mindset of you.

01:12:37.000 Now I'm going to shut up and have Dr. Paul Craig Roberts go over this two-year-old information.

01:12:37.000 Injustifies the means.

01:12:45.000 The Nation Institute reported it.

01:12:47.000 McCain and the POW cover-up.

01:12:50.000 And this was written by a Pulitzer Prize winner, but completely a news blackout in the U.S.

01:12:57.000 Dr. Roberts, thanks for holding while I did that back story.

01:12:59.000 You've got the floor.

01:13:01.000 Well, let's first tell your listeners where they can read the account.

01:13:04.000 It's now, it came out yesterday in the American Conservative, and so you'll have an account by the publisher of the magazine, you'll have an account by Schrandberg of why he was unable to tell the story, and then you have the story itself and the And the evidence.

01:13:24.000 He presents all the evidence.

01:13:25.000 And then they have a few people discussing the story.

01:13:29.000 Now, it's also, I think, this morning, it was all put up on antiwar.com.

01:13:36.000 And I'm sure you'll have it up on your site.

01:13:40.000 So that people can see that what was branded a conspiracy theory for several decades By the government, by the media, by all the mainstream, the establishment, they got rid of the POW issue by calling it a conspiracy theory.

01:13:57.000 It's now been proven beyond all doubt that the conspiracy theory was true.

01:14:02.000 The POWs were abandoned and there was a cover-up by the United States government that continues to this day.

01:14:11.000 It's just like The cover-up of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty.

01:14:18.000 This was said to have been some kind of an accident, a mistaken identity of the ship, and that's been covered up ever since the 1960s.

01:14:27.000 So we do have government cover-ups, a government that commits great acts of evil.

01:14:34.000 I mean, what's more despicable than abandoning your own POWs?

01:14:40.000 And they could have got the POWs back. 0.66

01:14:43.000 All they had to do was to pay ransom.

01:14:46.000 The North Koreans held back half of the prisoners, about 600 of them, in order to collect reparations for all the bombing the Americans had done to North Vietnam.

01:14:59.000 And so they were willing to give the prisoners back if we would pay three or four billion dollars in ransom.

01:15:07.000 And of course, by that time, Nixon was too weak to deliver the money.

01:15:14.000 Watergate was consuming him.

01:15:16.000 And once a lie gets in place...

01:15:19.000 It can't be undone.

01:15:21.000 It wasn't possible for the next president to say, hey look, we can get, they do have our prisoners and we can get them back for a little bit of money.

01:15:31.000 So once a lie is in place, everyone ends up defending it.

01:15:35.000 Even the Reagan administration ended up defending the claim that all the prisoners were back.

01:15:42.000 So here we see a government that lies through its teeth about its prisoners that it abandoned and could have gotten back for very little money.

01:15:54.000 So why do we believe the government tells us the truth about anything?

01:16:01.000 And why do we think the media would possibly serve the people by delivering the truth when they prevented Schrandberg from ever publishing his account.

01:16:13.000 I mean, he had to sit on this account for years and years until finally it got out in some out-of-the-way place.

01:16:19.000 And now it's become news thanks to Ron Huntz, Huntz, the publisher of the American Conservative, who's making an issue out of it.

01:16:29.000 And, of course, you've made an issue out of it.

01:16:32.000 And so what I think might be hopeful about it is that it makes people see if the government will lie about this, they'll lie about 9-11.

01:16:43.000 They'll lie about Kennedy's assassination.

01:16:46.000 In fact, they lie about everything, don't they, Alex?

01:16:48.000 They lie about the unemployment rate.

01:16:50.000 They lie about the inflation rate.

01:16:51.000 They lie about the bank bailout.

01:16:53.000 What does the government not lie about?

01:16:57.000 Well, here's another example.

01:16:58.000 I mean, I had a congressman on more than ten years ago from Virginia who was upset.

01:17:02.000 About six years ago, I had a member of the Australian Parliament on who was upset.

01:17:06.000 It was in the Australian news, they were saying there's a secret UN database of all our kids' blood.

01:17:12.000 The government's been taking the blood since 1971, 72.

01:17:14.000 It's 1971, 72.

01:17:17.000 It was a worldwide program in Western countries.

01:17:21.000 And they put it in a database.

01:17:23.000 And I would have these people on and read the documents, and listeners wouldn't believe me.

01:17:28.000 Now it's all over the news.

01:17:30.000 Oh, guess what?

01:17:30.000 The Pentagon's got your blood if you're 38 years old or younger.

01:17:34.000 That's how criminal this group is.

01:17:37.000 And how this national security state basically does whatever they want, then imagine that, Dr. Roberts, for 38 years, from Australia to Canada, from England to the US, they take our blood to put it in a government database, and now they announce, guess what?

01:17:51.000 We're going to have a global DNA database and we already have your blood.

01:17:54.000 I mean, it's just everything is a conspiracy, basically.

01:17:58.000 It does look that way, doesn't it, Alex?

01:18:00.000 It does!

01:18:01.000 I mean, it's incredible.

01:18:03.000 But see, the one advantage of this conspiracy now has been blown wide open.

01:18:09.000 And therefore, it may help make people aware that the other conspiracies are true, too.

01:18:17.000 Well, exactly.

01:18:18.000 Expanding on that briefly, I mean, your point is well taken, and it's central.

01:18:22.000 It's not just that they did this, it's the 30 years of cover-ups and not letting Pulitzer Prize winners ride on it, and now that story is as big as the POW story, that you have a giant group of people in media and government who would work together To leave a bunch of men to die?

01:18:39.000 I mean, it's, it's, why?

01:18:42.000 Right.

01:18:43.000 And of course the same group, the same people are doing the same thing now.

01:18:47.000 They're leading us deeper into wars, deeper into confrontation with nuclear armed powers.

01:18:55.000 The evil is loose, as you said.

01:18:57.000 Evil is loose in the United States.

01:18:59.000 It's got an iron grip on the government.

01:19:03.000 And probably on government at most levels in most places.

01:19:08.000 So it is a very serious situation and it remains to be seen if the people wake up or enough of them wake up and if they do whether they have the capability of doing anything about it or whether they are just going to be pawns that are continued to be sacrificed so that a very small group of elites who control the government can achieve some agenda.

01:19:32.000 Of their own.

01:19:34.000 Well, sir, let's continue and talk about how big this story is and how important maybe go over some of the sections.

01:19:39.000 AnnieWar.com's probably got 15 articles about it and documents.

01:19:43.000 The Nation Institute has them.

01:19:46.000 The conservative, the American conservative has it.

01:19:51.000 We're getting it all up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:19:53.000 Stay there, sir.

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01:24:09.000 Times senior writer, he's got an article out today on anti-war saying sometimes conspiracy theories are true. 0.86

01:24:18.000 Look, they just call it a conspiracy theory when you say that they're lying.

01:24:24.000 I mean, it wasn't a conspiracy theory in 1964 when people started saying, our ships weren't attacked, that was staged, Gulf of Tonkin.

01:24:32.000 It was in the San Diego newspaper.

01:24:35.000 We've gone and gotten the microfilm that sailors came back and said, we weren't attacked, it's all a lie.

01:24:41.000 It was in the newspaper, but then it becomes a rumor.

01:24:43.000 Oh, I heard it was staged.

01:24:45.000 Well, see, now it's declassified.

01:24:47.000 After 40 plus years, on the anniversary of it, in 2004, 40 plus... I guess that's the...

01:24:57.000 Yeah, 40 anniversary.

01:24:59.000 They declassify that they staged it.

01:25:02.000 Going back to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:25:04.000 As you said, though, the fact that you have such a huge cover-up shows that they've got a lot of willing people that will be part of this evil.

01:25:15.000 Talk about that, Dr. Roberts, but also, why would they want to lie and not get our troops back?

01:25:22.000 Okay, those are all good questions.

01:25:25.000 First, let me say that one of the many important contributions Schoenberg makes is he shows how the government lies.

01:25:35.000 He shows the technique, how they do it, how they get rid of conclusive evidence.

01:25:42.000 And so that itself is very revealing and your listeners should read just to see how the government goes about burying The truth.

01:25:52.000 We got plenty of time.

01:25:53.000 Boil it down.

01:25:54.000 Well, the specific examples are given by Schoenberg, and it's best for them to read.

01:26:00.000 Now, to get to your questions, interestingly enough, there were two American defense secretaries, James Schlesinger, who was actually one of my graduate professors in economics, and Melvin Laird.

01:26:17.000 Who both testified under oath to Congress that men were left behind.

01:26:23.000 So even when two defense secretaries, and of course Melvin Laird was the Secretary of Defense during the Nixon period when the Vietnam War was wound down, so he certainly would know, and Schlesinger came not long after.

01:26:38.000 So we have two defense secretaries who did testify to Congress that men were left behind, but Congress didn't want to hear it.

01:26:47.000 They didn't want to do anything about it.

01:26:49.000 And there are a number of defense secretaries, as Schrandberg shows, who come into office who just immediately take up the lie, because their notion is, it's my career, I'm serving my career, and I'm not going to go against whatever the line is. and I'm not going to go against whatever the line And who cares if men are still rotting and being used as slaves, which has been confirmed.

01:27:12.000 There's some still alive, being worked to death as slaves, and these fat, lazy, evil congressmen, just they're pigs. 1.00

01:27:20.000 They're pigs. 1.00

01:27:21.000 They're the scum of the earth. 1.00

01:27:23.000 In fact, the United States government is the scum of the earth. 1.00

01:27:26.000 The worst people in the country are in the government. 1.00

01:27:30.000 They're not the criminals out there.

01:27:32.000 They're not even the terrorists.

01:27:33.000 The worst people are in the government.

01:27:36.000 And that is another reason, I think, that Strandberg's story is so explosive.

01:27:42.000 Because Americans don't want to come to grips with that.

01:27:47.000 It's too much of a demand on their emotional strength and their intellectual strength.

01:27:52.000 And so it's something that people want to keep under the covers.

01:27:58.000 I think the reason the lie got started was that, you know, the Washington Post was doing a job on Nixon with Watergate.

01:28:07.000 He was trying to wind down the war while Watergate was devouring him.

01:28:12.000 And so he just didn't have any clout.

01:28:15.000 He couldn't deliver the money to get the prisoners back.

01:28:18.000 And so he had to say, we had them all back.

01:28:21.000 The war's over and we have everybody back.

01:28:22.000 He couldn't say, Hey, the war's over and we've left all these people because he would be blamed, not the Washington Post, not those two reporters, Bernstein and Woodward, not the Congress.

01:28:36.000 He would be blamed and he was already in terrible hot water about Watergate.

01:28:40.000 So he said, we have everybody back.

01:28:44.000 Well, once the lies in place, How do you get the lie out of place?

01:28:49.000 Because by now everyone's committed to it.

01:28:51.000 The Congress is committed to it.

01:28:53.000 The media is committed to it.

01:28:54.000 Everyone is committed to the lie.

01:28:56.000 It's just like 9-11.

01:28:58.000 Look how much evidence has come out after the 9-11 commission report, which proves that the whole thing was totally different.

01:29:08.000 You've just hit on the key there.

01:29:10.000 I just had another epiphany.

01:29:11.000 That's right.

01:29:11.000 They have a mass hoax.

01:29:14.000 They tell you what the story is and then everyone commits and the average American says, I'm not going to believe I'm being lied to because if this is a lie, everything's a lie.

01:29:21.000 And once they've got you in, you know...

01:29:24.000 I guess by degrees, you become part of the evil, and now we're just a huge culture of lies.

01:29:30.000 Dr. Roberts, long segment coming up.

01:29:31.000 This was a short segment.

01:29:33.000 Continue breaking down this central point that you just made.

01:29:36.000 I mean, it's like getting your arm caught in a sausage machine.

01:29:40.000 It's just sucking us all in, and now we have to, you know, go along with every lie, because our government isn't bad.

01:29:46.000 They're good, and that allows the evil to grow.

01:29:49.000 We're on the march.

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01:32:57.000 Okay, we're going back to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:33:06.000 And while we're on the subject of almost everything the government and the big corporations that control it says is a lie until we're just swimming in an ether of lies And then anyone who discovers we're being lied to, from the source documents, from the witnesses, is called a conspiracy theorist.

01:33:25.000 I want to bring up the fact that the Washington Post three days ago just came out in a headline about Saddam and a fake movie saying he was gay by the CIA, that they did make a video, a fake Bin Laden video.

01:33:37.000 What an incredible admission.

01:33:38.000 Or now they're suddenly everywhere admitting, okay, the troops helped grow the opium, because if we don't grow it, Al-Qaeda will get it.

01:33:45.000 So now they're just spinning everything but admitting everything.

01:33:49.000 So we'll talk to them about that, the economy.

01:33:52.000 And a lot more, but I'm really glad he's out there promoting the fact that, you know, this huge cover-up of the Pulitzer Prize winning, you know, report by a New York Times editor with all of the absolute proof, you gotta go read the reports, of the fact that they... I mean, this is total proof.

01:34:10.000 The government knowingly blocked it, knowingly shut it down, knowingly kept the public from knowing.

01:34:17.000 I mean, this is confirmed, just like Gulf of Tonkin or so many other things, Operation Ajax, you name it.

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01:35:35.000 Before we get back into this story, Dr. Roberts, tell folks about your new book, because that is extremely informative.

01:35:43.000 Well, that's how the economy was lost.

01:35:45.000 That book explains how the elite destroyed the middle class jobs in order to further enrich themselves and how they have dismantled the ladders of upward mobility

01:36:01.000 Stopping the ability of people to rise in order to put themselves in permanent control at the top and the other 99% of the population in poverty at the bottom.

01:36:16.000 That's what the book shows.

01:36:20.000 It shows how the end of the American middle class and the end of an opportunity society.

01:36:29.000 Now, Alex, let's get back to the story because, you know, one of the things that people always say when they're confronted with evidence that the government has lied or something, they would say, well, if there had been a real conspiracy, somebody would have talked.

01:36:47.000 But of course, they always do talk.

01:36:50.000 As I said earlier, two United States Secretaries of Defense talked and said in sworn testimony that people were left behind.

01:36:59.000 Reagan's National Security Advisor talked.

01:37:04.000 A leader of a Delta team, which twice was organized to go rescue the prisoners, only to be called off both times, has talked.

01:37:14.000 All sorts of people have talked.

01:37:16.000 So it doesn't do any good to talk.

01:37:18.000 In the case of 9-11, we know, and have said so many times, there were over a hundred first responders who were in the towers.

01:37:28.000 Firemen, policemen, building maintenance people.

01:37:31.000 Well, Doc, as you say, I've interviewed police and firemen who we saw on the CNN video saying they're gonna blow it up, get it back.

01:37:45.000 They weren't involved, they were just told get back.

01:37:48.000 And Silverstein says we gave the order to pull it and watch it come down, and now a Fox News pundit last month came out and said, yeah, I was there.

01:37:54.000 We were talking about blowing it up with silver steam, but we decided not to because it fell on its own.

01:38:00.000 I mean, this is hidden in plain view.

01:38:01.000 They're just counting on us to not be able to handle the full horror.

01:38:05.000 Well, the point is it doesn't do any good if somebody talks because it remains a conspiracy theory.

01:38:14.000 Now, as for the cover-up, you know, obviously the Pentagon and the military are very interested in the cover-up because how many people would join up the military if they expected to have to fight if they knew the government would abandon them if they were captured?

01:38:33.000 I mean, what kind of morale would the Army have, and the Marines, for example, and the Special Forces?

01:38:39.000 Would they be all these gung-ho people out there if they were aware of the fact that if they get captured, they may simply be abandoned?

01:38:48.000 And that when the war's over, they won't be repatriated, they'll just be left in the enemy's hands.

01:38:54.000 So this is the reason for the cover-up, you see.

01:38:58.000 There are many reasons affecting all parties.

01:39:03.000 And what is also amazing is that the two chief celebrities who were prisoners of war, John McCain and John Kerry, Well, Kerry wasn't a prisoner of war, but he was controversial about Vietnam getting the Silver Star.

01:39:21.000 So we have these two, and they're both instrumental in the cover-up.

01:39:25.000 Both of them have done everything possible to prevent the truth from coming out.

01:39:33.000 And not only that, but to lock up all the documents that reveal the truth.

01:39:40.000 So, and McCain, of course, is notorious for browbeating all the witnesses, including the POW families.

01:39:49.000 And Kerry went along with changes in the law that simply put, locked away somewhere forever, all the documents that prove the prisoners were abandoned.

01:40:03.000 You can see the extent of the corruption and the evil.

01:40:07.000 It's John McCain on the right.

01:40:09.000 It's John Kerry on the left.

01:40:12.000 It's the Republicans.

01:40:13.000 It's the Democrats.

01:40:14.000 It's all the presidential appointees, with the exception of those two secretaries of defense and Reagan's National Security Advisor.

01:40:25.000 Doc, is somebody approaching with a vacuum cleaner?

01:40:29.000 No.

01:40:30.000 Okay, because there's a little bit of a hum in the background and it's just increased a little bit.

01:40:35.000 I don't want it to... some of it was drowning you out, but that's important info you're covering.

01:40:39.000 So we see the method of the control.

01:40:41.000 In fact, from some of the documents I've seen in research, this is a system of corruption.

01:40:48.000 They like to get the entire government, different power structures, involved in a huge cover-up, because then later it can also be used to blackmail.

01:40:58.000 And that's what special forces commanders and many others that we've talked to who've worked on this have said is that the North Vietnamese are blackmailing the federal government to this day because the federal government made that Exactly.

01:41:14.000 to not get our troops out because they decided, okay, we'll pull out of there.

01:41:18.000 We're done.

01:41:19.000 We don't want the North, you know, who's taken over the South to be able to use us as a blue chip against us.

01:41:24.000 We'll just call these troops expendable hardware.

01:41:26.000 And the communists are sitting there going, well, this is perfect.

01:41:30.000 We'll keep them.

01:41:31.000 And then they'll go along with the cover-up.

01:41:33.000 And then we've always got this ace in the hole.

01:41:36.000 Exactly.

01:41:37.000 That's right.

01:41:39.000 And anybody in the American government talks is simply out of the government. - No.

01:41:45.000 They go from being a high official to a nobody.

01:41:49.000 So this is how the government gets away with its lies.

01:41:52.000 And of course the American people, or so many of them, are just gullible.

01:41:57.000 They're just terribly gullible.

01:42:00.000 And they have this sort of faith and trust in government that Americans didn't used to have.

01:42:05.000 I blame that on Franklin Roosevelt.

01:42:08.000 Who in the Great Depression, trying to rally people, gave them the idea, which they've had ever since, that the government is their protector.

01:42:19.000 And it's going to put a chicken in every pot.

01:42:21.000 Yeah, and keep them safe, you see.

01:42:25.000 And as we've talked about many times on your program, This was a line of the Bush-Cheney regime that, oh, we're going to take away all your civil liberties and destroy the Constitution in order to make you safe.

01:42:39.000 Terrorists!

01:42:40.000 And people just are gullible and they fall for it.

01:42:44.000 And so it's not really hard for government to pull off things like 9/11 because all it has to do is give some kind of explanation and people believe it.

01:42:57.000 They don't say, "Hey, the government did this." That's not their first thought.

01:43:01.000 It never enters their head. 0.93

01:43:03.000 It's always, oh, some tiny group of Muslims who can't even fly airplanes. 1.00

01:43:13.000 They didn't.

01:43:17.000 But, you know, perhaps, to repeat myself, the fact that this story is now getting out and getting some attention about the POWs, Because that really touches at the heart of American patriotism, doesn't it?

01:43:30.000 I mean, that really touches the flag wavers, the people who want to kill them over there before they come over here.

01:43:37.000 It really cuts to the very heart of the most conservative people, the people who are most willing to go to war to achieve whatever the government says.

01:43:49.000 If it turns out that the government has actually abandoned its own soldiers, Then it could possibly shake some of those people.

01:43:58.000 It could possibly cause more skepticism among the public and it could lead to the unraveling of other massive lies and conspiracies.

01:44:11.000 Well Dr. Paul Roberts, let me expand on that because from my research, and I mean it's on record this happened, There was over 20,000 US troops in German POW camps that were grabbed by the Russians.

01:44:27.000 And by then, Roosevelt had died, and Harry Truman said, Stalin's our ally, and basically we're not going to get in a fight with him. 0.72

01:44:38.000 They gave him half of Eastern Europe, they gave him half of Germany. 0.80

01:44:42.000 That's the thing that made And now documents have come out on this.

01:44:47.000 That's what caused Patton to have a complete conniption fit. 0.54

01:44:53.000 And so they killed him.

01:44:56.000 And so this has been a policy for a while that troops are just expendable animals, as Henry Kissinger said.

01:45:04.000 And so this goes back even to the greatest generation.

01:45:08.000 And I would challenge all these Pulitzer Prize winning people to go look into that because that's hidden in plain view as well.

01:45:15.000 Yes, I think you're right.

01:45:17.000 The people, you know, Frederick Boniak in his book, The Road to Serfdom, he has a chapter, Why the Worst Always Get on Top.

01:45:27.000 And that goes not just for totalitarian systems, but for democracies.

01:45:33.000 The worst rise to the top.

01:45:36.000 And we certainly have the worst people in the country in Washington.

01:45:40.000 That's where the worst people are.

01:45:42.000 And these kinds of people don't have compunction.

01:45:47.000 They don't have shame.

01:45:50.000 They're not moral.

01:45:52.000 They have ruthless agendas that feature themselves.

01:45:58.000 And that is why democracy itself is no protection from a ruthless government.

01:46:06.000 Well, that's why you've got to have the republic where the minority as well as the majority is protected.

01:46:09.000 And I've done a general research of history.

01:46:11.000 I don't claim to be a historian, but I read history books almost every day as my entertainment.

01:46:17.000 That's how I actually got informed as an adolescent and a teenager was because I happened to pick up history as a form of entertainment, not knowing I was educating myself on the way the world works.

01:46:27.000 But really studying our founding fathers, they weren't perfect, but there was Western expansion.

01:46:32.000 They wanted to be left alone by the bigger mafia, the crown, to build their own little systems.

01:46:38.000 And so they created a system to restrain the avarice of King Rats, of the strong men.

01:46:45.000 And that's why this conversation.

01:46:47.000 This country produced half the world's wealth, only 4% of the population.

01:46:50.000 So one of the few times in history the flower of the Renaissance, and now watching that being drugged down and being used as the engine of world tyranny, it's very frustrating.

01:47:02.000 Yes, it is very frustrating.

01:47:04.000 But if we can just keep making people aware that every American government since Nixon has covered up the abandonment of American prisoners of war.

01:47:18.000 And, you know, we have this definitely proved in the case of Vietnam and may well be proved in the case of the World War II prisoners. - Yes.

01:47:31.000 This should help bring the sort of most gullible flag-waving patrons to some realization that the government isn't trustworthy and it doesn't look after anyone's interest, not even the soldiers that are out there Giving up their lives and limbs.

01:47:51.000 Well, what about this issue?

01:47:52.000 They ask the troops to torture, they ask them to execute people in Afghanistan illegally, which then corrupts them.

01:47:58.000 And then every time it comes out, like Abu Ghraib in Iraq, they then prosecute the people who on record were following the White House memos and orders.

01:48:08.000 So it's not just that you'll be left behind, it's that you'll be used up and then scapegoated later because there's no honor among these thieves that run the system.

01:48:17.000 That's exactly right.

01:48:18.000 I don't know why anyone who was aware would have anything to do with the military.

01:48:25.000 I don't know why anyone would join.

01:48:28.000 I can't understand why the students at West Point and Annapolis and the Air Force Academy just don't get up en masse and walk out.

01:48:38.000 Because they're going to be betrayed too.

01:48:42.000 Or they're going to be used for evil and then betrayed.

01:48:47.000 And even if you don't want to be, you're forced to go along with it or your career is destroyed.

01:48:54.000 But that's my point.

01:48:55.000 There's a systematic evil throughout history.

01:48:58.000 We see Hitler killing his brown shirts that brought him to power. 0.98

01:49:01.000 We see things that happen in every society.

01:49:04.000 It's like a tropism.

01:49:06.000 It's a pathology in corrupt elites that they Their greatest glee is hanging their own attack dogs out to dry.

01:49:16.000 Because if I was one of these evil people, but I guess I'm not evil so I can't understand it, I would at least defend my henchmen and my servants to have that servant group, my praetorian. 0.92

01:49:26.000 But no, they treat their praetorian like toilet paper.

01:49:31.000 That's right.

01:49:32.000 Because they learned from the Romans that the praetorian can take over the ruler.

01:49:37.000 So Stalin ends up killing his own heads of his secret police and his own colleagues in the Politburo because they know that no one has any integrity or morality and that they're all a fair game for one another.

01:49:55.000 So whoever strikes first and gets rid of the others is the survivor.

01:50:00.000 And that's how the system ends up eating itself.

01:50:06.000 But of course, we don't really care if the evil people eat each other up.

01:50:10.000 What we're worried about is how they're destroying the rest of us who are not among their ranks.

01:50:17.000 And this is the fact that the American people need to wake up to and that you keep telling them about every day.

01:50:26.000 Well, that's another issue. 0.76

01:50:27.000 I mean, I've seen your transformation and research the last five, six years we've been talking to you, from saying they're just a bunch of nuts, a bunch of crooks, they don't know what they're doing, to saying, no, this is clearly by design, because all the evidence shows it is.

01:50:39.000 I want to briefly talk about the economy with you and all these headlines.

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01:54:17.000 That's what Fletcher Prouty did between the Pentagon and the CIA.

01:54:21.000 Key person on what's happening in North Korea and Iran.

01:54:25.000 Joining us for the last 52 minutes of the next hour.

01:54:29.000 Doc, for people watching on PrisonPlanet.tv, I'm gonna give them a document cam shot of this.

01:54:34.000 For radio listeners, the headline is, CIA Unit's Wacky Idea Depicts Saddam Hussein as Gay.

01:54:41.000 And it's spy talk, Jeff Stein, you know, a little propagandist.

01:54:44.000 But in the seventh paragraph, They just let it slip out.

01:54:49.000 The agency actually did make a video purporting to show Osama Bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire swigging bottles of liquor and savoring their conquest with boys.

01:55:00.000 One of the former CIA officers recalled chuckling at the memory.

01:55:04.000 The actors were drawn from some of the darker-skinned employees, he said.

01:55:09.000 Now, I asked Dr. Roberts during the break, because I knew the answer, but I wanted to get his take, just to see if he concurred.

01:55:15.000 Why are they doing this, Doc?

01:55:16.000 Why are they admitting they're growing opium in Afghanistan and have our troops on TV saying they do it?

01:55:21.000 Why are they admitting, saying that they killed the same Al-Qaeda leader 14, 15 times, never retract the last time they killed him?

01:55:28.000 Why are they now just admitting the bin Laden tapes are fake?

01:55:31.000 And he gave the answer that I agree with.

01:55:35.000 Dr. Roberts, tell folks why.

01:55:37.000 Well, I think, Alex, what they're doing, they're showing us that they have immunity, that they can do whatever they want, they can do it openly, and they can lie to us openly, and they can tell us that they commit crimes, and yet they don't suffer any consequences.

01:55:57.000 I think they're getting us accustomed and used to the fact that they can do whatever they want and even admit it!

01:56:05.000 And that we just have to sort of not notice and accept the fact that they are unaccountable and can do whatever they want.

01:56:16.000 So I, you know, it just makes you accept the culture of lies and it makes the people realize that they're powerless.

01:56:26.000 Here's a government that lies to us and then admits it lies to us and then goes on and lies to us some more and then admits it some more.

01:56:35.000 And it's just kind of a way of showing the people that they don't count.

01:56:39.000 I'll expand on that, though.

01:56:40.000 There was a city employee, John Villarreal, who went to Huntsville for three years.

01:56:45.000 And I confirmed this city employee was stealing money and trying to shut down AXS TV four years ago, five years ago now.

01:56:51.000 So I secretly recorded him, put private investigators on him, because that's where I started out.

01:56:56.000 I wasn't doing a show there anymore, but I wanted to keep it alive.

01:56:59.000 And he came to me I didn't have a camera rolling.

01:57:02.000 I was coming out of the bathroom at the telecommunications commission downtown.

01:57:06.000 He was waiting for me in the hall and I had my camera guy inside for the commission and he walked over and he shoved me in the chest. 0.98

01:57:13.000 And he said, you bet I stole the money and I'm gonna kill you and you're never gonna stop me. 0.97

01:57:18.000 And I said, that's a threat. 1.00

01:57:19.000 I'm gonna send your ass to prison. 1.00

01:57:21.000 Excuse my French, folks. 1.00

01:57:23.000 And I did send him to prison.

01:57:24.000 So it's also kind of a bravado they do, like, yeah, we made the fake tapes.

01:57:29.000 Yeah, we did it all.

01:57:31.000 So what?

01:57:32.000 So I don't think they're invincible and there is a wake-up call happening, but I'm afraid they're gonna start wars, Dr. Roberts, as the smokescreen for what they're doing.

01:57:42.000 Well, I'm certainly going to start more wars, there's no doubt about that.

01:57:45.000 Let's just hope they don't get a nuclear war going with Russia.

01:57:52.000 Well, we know Cheney now, it's come out, really did want to start a war with them and his whole 888 thing.

01:57:58.000 Well, that's been the whole neocon line for years.

01:58:02.000 They've wanted a nuclear war with Russia.

01:58:06.000 It's part of the bravado, yeah.

01:58:09.000 Well, let's talk briefly about the economy.

01:58:10.000 Yeah, let's do that.

01:58:11.000 One minute break, we're going to come back in five minutes with you.

01:58:13.000 But, you know, we're here laughing about it.

01:58:15.000 It's gallows humor.

01:58:16.000 Because they just, it's tough.

01:58:20.000 You know, we want nuclear war.

01:58:21.000 It's fun. 1.00

01:58:23.000 Because they've got all the women, all the whores, all the money. 1.00

01:58:26.000 These guys are like Hitler, who would sit there watching Warsaw burn. 0.99

01:58:30.000 You know, he would get up on the front line and watch from five miles away just because he liked watching buildings burn.

01:58:35.000 He liked watching Stukas drop bombs.

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01:59:00.000 Not democracy, not mob rule.

01:59:02.000 Two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

01:59:04.000 So they think they own our land?

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02:00:06.000 You want answers?

02:00:08.000 Well, so does he.

02:00:09.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:00:13.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:18.000 Okay, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is our guest, best-selling author, syndicated columnist, father of ergonomics.

02:00:24.000 We've got about four and a half minutes.

02:00:26.000 The economy, the meltdown accelerating, the Goldman Sachs emails with a new That the economy was going to implode.

02:00:36.000 They set up the derivative scam.

02:00:38.000 We have them red-handed.

02:00:39.000 Sir, where is this going?

02:00:43.000 Well, Alex, I think what we have is another criminal elite in charge of the financial sector.

02:00:50.000 They're in charge of the Treasury, the Federal Reserve, and, of course, the New York Investment Banks and the hedge funds.

02:00:56.000 Now, think about this for a minute.

02:00:58.000 Allegedly, the euro is collapsing because of the Greek debt.

02:01:02.000 Now, that makes no sense whatsoever.

02:01:03.000 Greece is a small country.

02:01:06.000 It's debts could not possibly be a threat to the euro.

02:01:11.000 But we hear about this constantly, over and over and over and over.

02:01:14.000 So it's propaganda coming out of the hedge funds.

02:01:17.000 They're making a killing on it.

02:01:19.000 If you can make the world think the euro is going to collapse, you can make all kind of money shorting the euro.

02:01:25.000 And it's the same crowd of crooks that sold the derivatives.

02:01:31.000 And that sold junk with AAA investment ratings on it. 0.69

02:01:37.000 And so that's what they're now doing. 0.67

02:01:39.000 This whole thing about the euro is a scam run by the hedge funds.

02:01:45.000 And they're getting rich off of it.

02:01:47.000 Look, the most indebted country in the world is Japan.

02:01:51.000 And the second most indebted country is the United States.

02:01:55.000 They're far worse conditions than Europe.

02:02:01.000 And yet, it's Europe that's in the news.

02:02:05.000 And the euro is collapsing against the dollar.

02:02:08.000 Why should anything collapse against the dollar?

02:02:10.000 The dollar has massive trade deficit, massive budget deficits.

02:02:16.000 They're unclosable.

02:02:18.000 The government is indebted up to over its head.

02:02:22.000 The population is indebted.

02:02:25.000 It's a far worse situation than in Europe, and yet it's the euro.

02:02:29.000 So what it really is, it's a play of the New York Investment Banks and the hedge funds against the euro.

02:02:35.000 And they're getting rich off of it, just like they got rich off of derivatives.

02:02:40.000 Yeah, they looted us two years ago, and now they're looting Europe, and they're just like a group of carrion crows that fly around eating the flesh off our bones.

02:02:50.000 And the media doesn't ever explain it.

02:02:53.000 They just provide the free propaganda that keeps the money running into the hedge funds and the New York investment banks.

02:03:04.000 A manual of British Naval War College documents on pirate accounts from the 16, 17, 1800s.

02:03:13.000 And the way this elite behaves is kind of like pirates, where they just wildly wouldn't even pull the corks off whiskey bottles.

02:03:20.000 They would just hack the tops off and just drink it down. 0.87

02:03:24.000 So there's a method to the madness, Doctor, but overall, do you agree that they're just complete out-of-control lunatics? 0.59

02:03:31.000 Yes, and in fact I would even say pirates had more honor. 0.91

02:03:38.000 So they're worse than pirates.

02:03:42.000 And nothing is being done about it.

02:03:44.000 You notice the regulation of the financial system, nothing happens.

02:03:50.000 Or it's all watered down, or it's turned into something that enables them to plunder more.

02:03:56.000 Yeah, now they're going to take over all the little banks and track every purchase we make.

02:04:00.000 That's right.

02:04:02.000 You'll see massive financial concentration, which is probably another reason for all this trouble.

02:04:09.000 That's probably what they're trying to do, is to get rid of the large number of banks.

02:04:16.000 It's just a few large ones.

02:04:17.000 It's the same thing they did to the media when they concentrated it in the hands of a few giant firms.

02:04:25.000 But nobody is going to tell the people.

02:04:28.000 The Congress isn't going to hold those kind of hearings, and the press is not going to do any investigation.

02:04:34.000 Well, Doc, good job on reporting on the huge breaking news of the POW cover-up, completely confirmed by a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist.

02:04:43.000 We'll talk to you again soon, Lord willing.

02:04:45.000 Thanks for spending time with us.

02:04:47.000 Glad to be with you, Alex.

02:04:48.000 It's always informative, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

02:04:50.000 Ray McGovern, coming up.

02:04:52.000 We'll be right back.

02:04:56.000 Hi, this is Alex Jones.

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02:07:52.000 This is Alex Jones for survivalseedbank.com.

02:07:57.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:08:05.000 Okay, he joins us to talk about a host of issues.

02:08:07.000 What's happening on the Korean Peninsula, which could lead to nuclear war.

02:08:12.000 I mean, that's all over the headlines.

02:08:14.000 Israel's saying they may go into Iran sooner rather than later.

02:08:17.000 That's back on the front burner.

02:08:19.000 You know, is there a Fox Fallon to stop it?

02:08:23.000 What will Admiral Mullen do?

02:08:26.000 You've got this global financial meltdown happening.

02:08:28.000 You notice world wars always start during a major global meltdown.

02:08:32.000 There's a method to this madness. 0.52

02:08:34.000 I also want to ask him later about CIA units' wacky idea to pick Saddam as gay. 0.86

02:08:41.000 That's not the issue.

02:08:42.000 Buried in the Washington Post article, they quote the CIA officers as Producing fake Bin Laden videos.

02:08:49.000 Now people have looked at the video of the fat Bin Laden and admitted it's fake.

02:08:53.000 They've had linguists listen to it.

02:08:54.000 It's not him, not the dialect.

02:08:55.000 They've done voice print.

02:08:57.000 These tapes are basically all fake or old tapes of him re-edited.

02:09:00.000 I want to ask Ray McGovern about that.

02:09:03.000 We're going to get into suddenly New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Fox News, Geraldo Rivera with the Marine Corps commander.

02:09:11.000 We're here helping the Afghans grow the opium. 1.00

02:09:13.000 We have to or al-Qaeda will get the opium.

02:09:17.000 I mean, folks, they're really coming out in the open.

02:09:19.000 Yeah, we put out fake Bin Laden tapes.

02:09:21.000 Yeah, we're growing the smack. 1.00

02:09:23.000 Yeah, yeah, we left the POWs.

02:09:26.000 Pulitzer Prize winning reports are now getting a lot of news on that front.

02:09:32.000 Ray McGovern was in Vietnam, by the way.

02:09:32.000 So we'll talk about it all.

02:09:34.000 So we're going to cover it all in the next hour with him today.

02:09:39.000 Ray McGovern is an activist who writes and lectures all over the country.

02:09:43.000 He's co-founder of Veterans Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, and we really appreciate him joining us.

02:09:51.000 He was one of the chief CIA briefers for Reagan and Bush Sr., and that's a key position in a focal point position where you have Pentagon liaison to CIA, you have CIA liaison to White House.

02:10:05.000 These focal officers like Fletcher Prouty and the Secret Team, again, have unique perspective on wide-ranging analysis and how it ties in, not just specialists.

02:10:17.000 So they can draw on all the specialists, and so that's why it's such an important lens to have them on with us.

02:10:21.000 So I've thrown out there, sir, what I want to cover with you in the next 50 minutes.

02:10:25.000 You've got the floor with what, of that cornucopia, that you think is most important in your breakdown on what we're facing.

02:10:32.000 Alex, thanks.

02:10:34.000 First, just to make sure the record is correct, I don't want to pull a boom and fall from Connecticut here.

02:10:40.000 I didn't serve actually in Vietnam.

02:10:43.000 I was an army infantry intelligence officer from 62 to 64 before Vietnam really started.

02:10:50.000 And while I was going on, I was the principal analyst at the CIA for Soviet policy toward Vietnam.

02:10:57.000 So I learned quite a bit about it, but I never set foot in the country.

02:11:01.000 With respect to what's going on here, the most important thing that's happening today is that David Obie, Chair of Appropriations in the House, is letting some lipstick go on the $33 billion appropriation for escalating war in Afghanistan.

02:11:22.000 And that lipstick is $23 billion for teachers so that they don't lose their jobs.

02:11:29.000 Obi knows better.

02:11:31.000 What he's done here is bowed to the Washington establishment that want to continue this war.

02:11:38.000 It looks very much as though what he will report out of his committee this evening is a bill that includes $23 billion for teachers to keep the schools going and $33 billion for Afghanistan to keep that feckless war going and more and more people being killed.

02:12:00.000 It's just really, I was a former admirer of David Obie, and so I wrote him a memorandum that has appeared already on AfterDowningStreet.com.

02:12:09.000 I guess it's now called WarIsACrime.org. 0.60

02:12:13.000 And you can see that he's being completely disingenuous, because as recently as two months ago, he told a TV interviewer that this Afghanistan adventure, it's a fool's errand.

02:12:27.000 But if we're going to do it, we have to pay for it.

02:12:30.000 You know, we have to fully fund it.

02:12:32.000 Now, what kind of logic does that make, Alex?

02:12:35.000 It's a fool's errand, but if we're going to do it, we've got to fund it.

02:12:39.000 Well, Ryan McGovern, let me throw this out at you, and then you can expand on your concern with what's happening in Afghanistan, expanding into Pakistan.

02:12:46.000 But in layman's terms, I'm somebody who sits there and studies it for years, and so I want your perspective, and correct me if I'm wrong, you've got all these pipelines going through there, trillions in the aggregate of oil, hundreds of billions in no-bid contract black holes, so the defense lobby likes it, the oil lobby likes it, Israel likes it because that gets the U.S.

02:13:07.000 more firmly burrowed into the Middle East and Central Asia, so that lobby likes it.

02:13:12.000 But more importantly, 500 billion a year, 91% now, it was a lot lower, of the opium pouring out into Russia, into Asia, kind of a replay of the Boxer Rebellion, part two, and now our troops are admittedly over there, quote, protecting the poppy fields, and so I think you've got at least the contractors that's coming out, that's what Sybil Edmonds said pre-911, shipping the opium into Turkey, you name it, and so it's really about Well, that's part of it, Alex, to be sure.

02:13:41.000 The other part is a more kind of geopolitical adventure here.

02:13:44.000 well, we're really there because Black Ops likes $500 billion.

02:13:48.000 Well, that's part of it, Alex, to be sure.

02:13:50.000 The other part is a more kind of geopolitical adventure here.

02:13:56.000 Imperialism is not dead.

02:13:59.000 If you look at Afghanistan, you'll see that it's strategically located in the same neighborhood as China, as Iran, as Russia, really, Turkey, Iraq.

02:14:11.000 It's right there in the middle of things.

02:14:13.000 And so the way the empire looks at things is, well, we've got to be in there firstest with the mostest.

02:14:21.000 Even if it's mostly an attempt to deny the Chinese or the Russians or the Indians or whomever from getting in there before we were.

02:14:30.000 Now, what makes Afghanistan strategic?

02:14:35.000 Well, one of the things that makes it strategic is that it lies directly beneath a country called Turkmenistan, which used to be part of the Soviet Union, and Turkmenistan has in it Natural gas deposits worth all the oil under the sands of Iraq.

02:14:54.000 Now, the problem is, Chevron's in there, a lot of the oil companies are in there, natural gas companies, but you can't get it here from there, okay?

02:15:04.000 You gotta do a pipeline, and you can't have that pipeline go through Russia, you have to have it go south, and guess what?

02:15:11.000 The next country is Afghanistan, and then Pakistan, and then a little slice of India, and at the terminal of this projected pipeline, all the studies were done and was ready to go, guess what?

02:15:24.000 Enron was supposed to be the person marketing that natural gas, so the whole thing is as corrupt as can be.

02:15:30.000 The Taliban visited Houston, Texas when Governor George Bush expressed interest in what was going on there with this pipeline. 0.91

02:15:40.000 Our ambassador to Afghanistan and later to Iraq, Khalid Zard, was one of the people involved in this, and so was Karzai.

02:15:49.000 Yeah, he was the Unicole executive.

02:15:51.000 Yeah, so that's part of it.

02:15:53.000 Now I'm not saying that's the whole thing.

02:15:54.000 The whole ball of wax involves the strategic location and what needs to happen here, Alex, in my view, is pretty simple.

02:16:02.000 There's a finite amount of oil.

02:16:05.000 There's a finite amount of natural gas in this world.

02:16:10.000 Now, if we're going to try to seize it all or seize control of it, then, you know, Iraq can be looked on as simply the first resource war of the 21st century. 0.75

02:16:22.000 What we have to do is what my four-year-old grandson learns in nursery school.

02:16:28.000 I went up and I asked his teacher, what do you expect to teach these kids?

02:16:32.000 And she said, oh, that's simple.

02:16:34.000 We teach them that they have to learn to share.

02:16:37.000 a certain amount of toys on the table they have to learn to share because there's a finite amount of things.

02:16:42.000 And I said, wow, there it is.

02:16:44.000 Cheney, Bush, even now Obama.

02:16:47.000 They never went to this nursery school for sure.

02:16:49.000 What has to happen is we get together with the Chinese, the Indians, and other people who need that oil and gas, figure out how to share it.

02:16:58.000 And jointly develop it.

02:16:59.000 Instead, I mean, we go back to 53.

02:17:01.000 That's what caused the whole Iran thing, as you know. 1.00

02:17:05.000 Mohammad Mozadek said, we're going to keep 25% of our own money to American oil companies and British oil companies.

02:17:12.000 And they said, no, we get everything. 0.94

02:17:15.000 We overthrow you using the Muslim extremists. 1.00

02:17:17.000 I mean, it's the same story every time. 0.99

02:17:19.000 That's right.

02:17:20.000 Well, that was a company called BP, actually, which I think has been in the news lately.

02:17:25.000 You get a corrupt a enterprise like British Petroleum, which controlled all the oil in Iran prior to the revolution in 1953.

02:17:37.000 And if you let them persuade you to overthrow the governments there, then as night follows the day, they will be filled with the uncontrollable hubris that they've demonstrated now in the Gulf of Mexico.

02:17:54.000 And the people of the world, the simple people like you and me, Alex, have a real, real problem.

02:17:59.000 And And it's the same thing over and over again.

02:18:03.000 I think, what was BP called?

02:18:05.000 Anglo-American Oil?

02:18:06.000 Yeah, that's what they call themselves.

02:18:08.000 But BP is a direct descendant.

02:18:10.000 No, exactly.

02:18:11.000 I mean, it's the same company, you're absolutely right, in that Dutch partnership.

02:18:14.000 But, I mean, it's the same players over and over again.

02:18:18.000 Yeah.

02:18:19.000 Well, it's just that they are so powerful.

02:18:23.000 And here's Obama, you know.

02:18:26.000 He was asked just a half hour ago at his press conference, you know, do you feel a little funny about that decision you made two weeks before the oil blowup in the Gulf when you said that, yeah, we have to drill offshore and these companies, you know, have reduced the dangers greatly.

02:18:47.000 Well, I still think we have to drill offshore, but my mistake was taking the word of the companies.

02:18:56.000 Well, for Pete's sake, of course they take the word of the companies.

02:19:01.000 Look at the people that they had in the Interior Department, people who are still there, taking bribes and everything else from the oil companies.

02:19:09.000 The system is corrupt.

02:19:11.000 What Mama should have done is come in, got rid of all those people, given them jobs in the library if you couldn't fire them, and get some real, real control over these precious resources, despite the avarice and the desire of people like BP to control this important resource. 1.00

02:19:31.000 Okay, Ray McGovern, stay there.

02:19:32.000 Let's come back and get your breakdown of where you see Afghanistan and Pakistan going.

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02:19:44.000 Is it green light to go into Iran?

02:19:47.000 Who will hit U.S. operation with Israel?

02:19:50.000 Israel goes it alone. 0.92

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02:24:26.000 Going back to Ray McGovern, this is a short segment, long segment coming up.

02:24:30.000 When I interrupted you earlier with some other questions about why they're there, where do you see Afghanistan going?

02:24:36.000 I mean, two weeks ago, they said a thousand drones are being dispatched for Pakistan and Afghanistan and that now they don't have to identify somebody before they kill them.

02:24:46.000 Just if you look like you're a terrorist, kind of like those kids in Baghdad in the minivan look like terrorists and reporters with cameras look like terrorists.

02:24:54.000 I mean, this sounds like an incredible escalation.

02:24:57.000 It sounds like LBJ in 1966.

02:25:01.000 Well, funny you should mention that, Alex, because I was thinking of this wonderful new airplane, aircraft, that had been developed around then.

02:25:11.000 It was called a B-52.

02:25:14.000 And, you know, that was going to solve all our problems in Vietnam. 0.93

02:25:18.000 What we're going to do is bomb the hell out of the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 1.00

02:25:24.000 And LBJ came to us, intelligence types, and said that these blue suited generals are telling me this will do it.

02:25:30.000 What do you think?

02:25:32.000 Now, we suppressed the laugh.

02:25:35.000 You know, having known about the effect of aircraft in World War II, and knowing that it simply increases the resistance of populations like the Vietnamese, and we waited two days and then we gave them an estimate.

02:25:49.000 We used to do national intelligence estimates, and now they're not done very much anymore.

02:25:54.000 And we told the president, look, Mr. President, Ho Chi Minh is not the kind of person who's going to give up under how many B-52s or how heavy the bombs they drop.

02:26:04.000 And besides, Mr. President, you should be aware that the Ho Chi Minh Trail doesn't look anything like, ooh, I-81 or I-95 or the George Washington Memorial Parkway.

02:26:16.000 You can't even see it from the air in many respects.

02:26:21.000 It's about 181 trails, Mr. President.

02:26:24.000 Ain't no way that B-52s are going to do the job. 0.99

02:26:27.000 Now, we were right, of course, but the corollary there is the President doesn't have to heed intelligence.

02:26:33.000 He just didn't want to lose a war, and so he said, well, let's try these blue-suited guys.

02:26:38.000 You know, they might be right, and so he tried it, and we know the answer.

02:26:41.000 Now, similarly, here we are over in Afghanistan.

02:26:44.000 We have this new weapon, which most people don't realize, Alex, and I knew about this when it was being developed.

02:26:51.000 It was developed for a specific purpose, and that purpose only, and that was to give us a hovering capability where we could monitor developments on the ground more than two times a day.

02:27:02.000 Two times a day being when the satellites would pass over these areas, okay?

02:27:07.000 Now, we got this thing developed.

02:27:10.000 It worked beautifully, and then it was shown to some general in the Pentagon, and he said, I want to see the tank.

02:27:17.000 I want to destroy the tank.

02:27:19.000 Put some missiles on that bird. 1.00

02:27:22.000 Therefore, you get predators, you get reapers with hellfire missiles, and you get an awful lot of disenchantment and hostility out of the people in Pakistan in particular that are being bombed to hell by these things.

02:27:37.000 It's looked on as a very cowardly thing.

02:27:40.000 That's right at a primitive level having like Terminator machines out of the sky bombing you and it's literally 22 year old zit face kids in trailers thousands of miles away in a video game set up and go ahead you got a wedding we think Well, some guy's got a gun in there.

02:27:59.000 Everybody's got guns in those countries.

02:28:01.000 I mean, it's a tribal, you know, red-blooded type area. 0.60

02:28:04.000 And then they, you know, they kill a hundred innocent people.

02:28:07.000 Now you've created a thousand enemies because their entire family and every cousin they've got who may have loved America back in the 80s, they're ready to kill. 0.90

02:28:15.000 They're ready to trade their life to kill Americans. 0.98

02:28:18.000 And so the idea is pump more Americans in. 0.99

02:28:20.000 That's exactly right.

02:28:22.000 And, you know, people have asked me, these Hellfire missiles, are they accurate?

02:28:28.000 And I say, well, yeah, they are.

02:28:30.000 They're extremely accurate.

02:28:33.000 They're more accurate than anything we've had up until now.

02:28:35.000 But the question is, how do you identify the targets?

02:28:39.000 Now, you know, you can really tell what a militant is from 30,000 feet, can't you?

02:28:44.000 Give me a break.

02:28:46.000 You can really find out who the Taliban and the al-Qaeda types are by asking their neighbors who have these, asking people's neighbors who have unsatisfied grudges against them.

02:28:59.000 The targets are the name of the game, and if you get targets, From people who have grudges or from 22-year-olds looking from 30,000 feet up, you've got a real problem.

02:29:12.000 What really tells, what I find really telling, Alex, is these Reapers and these Predators, interesting the labels they give these aircraft, they're controlled by these young NCOs out at Creech Air Force Base near Las Vegas.

02:29:29.000 Stay there, sir.

02:29:30.000 We got a break.

02:29:31.000 Long segment.

02:29:31.000 We'll go back to Creek Air Force Base and talk about the Predators and drones with Ray McGovern, CIA analyst, a briefer to the presidents.

02:29:40.000 Very honored to have him here with us today.

02:29:42.000 He's got a new article out.

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02:33:00.000 We're going back to Ray McGovern here in a moment to get into the Predator drones and where he sees Afghanistan and Pakistan going.

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02:33:19.000 We'll go back to him in just a moment.

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02:35:09.000 Okay, Ray, I've been adding my points.

02:35:10.000 You got cut off by the break.

02:35:11.000 You were getting into, they're out in Nevada.

02:35:14.000 It's one of the main command centers.

02:35:15.000 I've seen it on the news.

02:35:17.000 People in trailers and he's like, Well, let me put it this way.

02:35:22.000 The chaplains out there at Creech Air Force Base, they're working overtime.

02:35:27.000 him sitting there and they're going, "Okay, you've got Clarence.

02:35:29.000 Hit him. 0.71

02:35:29.000 Go ahead and give it to him." And I mean, it's so bizarre to see this. 0.71

02:35:34.000 Break it down for us.

02:35:36.000 Well, let me put it this way.

02:35:39.000 The chaplains out there at Creech Air Force Base, they're working overtime.

02:35:44.000 Because some of these young fellows have a conscience.

02:35:48.000 They do their work during the day.

02:35:49.000 They go home and have dinner with their families and they think, hmm, the wife says, well, we'll have to have things go at work today.

02:35:59.000 They can't quite say, well, we killed, you know, we shot Hellfire missiles at 30 groups and we're not real sure.

02:36:08.000 So, long story short, these chaplains are actually being visited regularly by these poor NCOs who are ordered to do this kind of thing and have it on their conscience, to their credit.

02:36:18.000 The other guys, now the other guys are the ones in Langley, Virginia, who are working for the CIA.

02:36:24.000 They're the ones that have the joysticks there, and they're the ones that fly over Pakistan.

02:36:29.000 Why?

02:36:30.000 Well, because we're literally, or at least technically not at war with Pakistan, so it has to be the CIA.

02:36:37.000 It can't be the Air Force.

02:36:38.000 Well, it's the same sort of thing.

02:36:40.000 People who identify these targets, either from people who may have grievances against this particular village or people who think they see militants, whatever they look like, as distinguished from wedding parties, from 30,000 as distinguished from wedding parties, from 30,000 feet.

02:36:58.000 So, you know, the whole thing is an indication of the lack of leadership in the military of our country, as well as the political side, because you can't win a war this way.

02:37:13.000 All you can do is alienate the affections of people.

02:37:15.000 And what I keep telling people is that in Pakistan, if you take the population of Pakistan, 165, 170 million, okay?

02:37:23.000 That's 40 million more.

02:37:28.000 And the population of Afghanistan, Iran, and Iraq put together.

02:37:34.000 Besides, of course, Pakistan has nuclear weapons. 0.66

02:37:37.000 Now, which, I would ask you, which country should be the most important not to alienate the population in?

02:37:45.000 Well, sir, we've seen Pakistani leaders, and we've got an article up on InfoWars.com that's got the newscast and even ABC News, with Pakistani leaders saying, look, your government is running a lot of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and they're using it to destabilize our country, and you know, and that's what Hamid Ghul, who I

02:38:05.000 I was bizarrely contacted by a year and a half ago, and he came on this show, and it made national news when he did, and he said that they're killing these tribal groups to actually get them up in arms, and that's what Gerald Salenta, the Trends Forecaster, says.

02:38:19.000 He says, look, the U.S.

02:38:20.000 government isn't going to have to stage terror attacks as a pretext to get the American people to give their liberty up. 0.99

02:38:26.000 You kill enough Pakistanis who are tribal, they're going to come over here and they're going to blow stuff up. 1.00

02:38:33.000 Well, we've seen the effects of that, haven't we? 1.00

02:38:36.000 You know, when Bush said we have to kill them over there before they come here, well, you know, that was ridiculous in the extreme. 0.99

02:38:45.000 What we need to do is figure out what's really going on in those countries, why they hate us. 0.98

02:38:51.000 You know, it ain't because of our democracy or our freedom.

02:38:55.000 Now, with respect to the Pakistanis, You can see U.S. 0.97

02:39:00.000 high-level pronouncements say, we're working on the Pakistanis to show them, to demonstrate that their greatest threat is not from India, no, no, it's from these insurgents, these militants, these people that are in the tribal areas, right?

02:39:15.000 Well, give me a break.

02:39:17.000 There's no kind of rhetoric or logic that is going to persuade the Pakistanis that their main enemy isn't India.

02:39:25.000 Of course it is.

02:39:26.000 And so why do they keep feeding the Taliban? 0.55

02:39:29.000 Why do they keep making it difficult for the U.S.

02:39:31.000 to end the job there?

02:39:33.000 Because they see an advantage in keeping the pot boiling in Afghanistan. 1.00

02:39:38.000 They don't want an Indian-dominated government in Afghanistan.

02:39:42.000 Afghanistan.

02:39:43.000 They want to keep the pot boiling. 0.68

02:39:45.000 And so all these pronouncements about the U.S., you know, we're going to probably persuade them.

02:39:50.000 Well, we're going to persuade them that their strategic interest is not in India, but in the East.

02:39:55.000 Give me a break.

02:39:55.000 We're never going to persuade them of that.

02:39:58.000 And so this thing will just keep going and going.

02:40:00.000 And the worst news, of course, is that our congressional people, even the good ones like Dave Obe, have now caved again.

02:40:07.000 And it looks like there will be an escalation to the tune of $33 billion, and that will buy many more months of killing and war.

02:40:16.000 People can go to Common Dreams website and others and read your new article.

02:40:21.000 Give folks that title again one more time, right?

02:40:23.000 Well, it's a letter to David Obie, who's the head of appropriations. 0.91

02:40:27.000 It's a memo that says, look, you know, you called Afghanistan a fool's errand.

02:40:35.000 And then you said, Yeah, but we have to fund it.

02:40:38.000 That doesn't make any logical sense, Dave.

02:40:41.000 What's really going on here, and what's really going on here is he's out of there in January, he wants to not alienate the affections of the Washington establishment, and he's letting go to the House.

02:40:54.000 A bill that will include enough lipstick, namely the $23 billion for teachers, so that the $33 billion for Afghanistan war will go through.

02:41:03.000 That is unconscionable.

02:41:05.000 He knows better than that. 0.99

02:41:06.000 And he can call me an idiot liberal, or that's what he calls some of my friends, but what I'm telling him is that he's in terrible disappointment because he should have stood his ground and not confessed to being quote, bone tired. 0.97

02:41:21.000 And again, Ray, this has nothing to do with liberal-conservative. 0.99

02:41:24.000 It's right and wrong.

02:41:25.000 Obama is expanding the wars.

02:41:27.000 Bush expanded it.

02:41:28.000 This is the policy of the establishment.

02:41:32.000 But just briefly, because I want to get into Iran and then North Korea and the time we've got left with you.

02:41:36.000 I'm picking your brain.

02:41:37.000 We appreciate the time.

02:41:38.000 And of course, you just come on out of the goodness of your heart to do it.

02:41:41.000 I wish you had a book or something we could promote for folks to get your word out even more, but hopefully that's coming in the future.

02:41:46.000 But over the years, you've been so gracious.

02:41:48.000 That is my point.

02:41:50.000 What is the exit strategy?

02:41:51.000 Is the exit strategy never leave like Germany or Japan or South Korea?

02:41:56.000 I mean is the exit strategy quagmire?

02:42:00.000 Well, I asked Khalid Zard, our former ambassador in Afghanistan, he's actually an Afghan.

02:42:06.000 I asked him at a RAND conference two months ago, I said, you know, you don't say much about the oil pipeline anymore or the natural gas pipeline to Afghanistan.

02:42:16.000 What does that stand?

02:42:18.000 You were in on that from the beginning.

02:42:19.000 And he thought for a second and he said, Well, you know, with all the violence and all the fighting there along the pipeline route, we can't possibly build it right now.

02:42:36.000 I wasn't allowed a follow-up, but my follow-up was going to be, oh, so that's why we're there, to put down the violence, to get the Taliban out of there, and then clear a path for the oil and gas pipeline.

02:42:49.000 Is that it, Ambassador Khalilzad?

02:42:52.000 So, you know, it's a strategic sort of thing, where the U.S.

02:42:57.000 will not act in any other way than as an empire, and you need to have a little bit of humility, because we're not going to be able to call the shots in that part of Well, here's my next question.

02:43:08.000 I mean, as you know, you've studied it more than most out there.

02:43:12.000 Nobody's ever been able to successfully continually conquer these people.

02:43:16.000 I mean, can you just briefly sum up in maybe two minutes the mindset of these tribal groups, these Pashtuns and others, in Afghanistan and in areas of Pakistan?

02:43:25.000 Because from my layman research and what every other analyst going back 400 years, people who fought there, have said is, the more you kill them, the more they fight.

02:43:35.000 just like Americans used to be. 1.00

02:43:37.000 I mean, what happened with the British here? 0.99

02:43:39.000 I mean, that's what any red-blooded group is going to do. 0.98

02:43:42.000 They're not going to stop fighting.

02:43:43.000 They're not drinking fluoride and watching I Love Lucy. 1.00

02:43:46.000 They're not fat, dumb, happy Americans. 0.98

02:43:48.000 Well, I'd rather be, you know, back in 1776, I sure would rather have been an insurgent rather than a cooperator with the Tories. 0.99

02:43:57.000 In a word, there are these strange people in Afghanistan. 1.00

02:44:04.000 They're in tribes mostly, and they have this strange resistance to invaders coming into their country.

02:44:12.000 And they have the benefit of these huge mountains and very vulnerable valleys, and so going back 2,500 years, Alex, to Alexander the Great, Who is the first of about seven big countries trying to conquer Afghanistan.

02:44:29.000 They've been able to, the tribal leaders have been able to block that.

02:44:36.000 And what I tell people is, you know why they call Alexander the Great?

02:44:41.000 Well, they call him the Great because he was sensible enough to look at the height of those mountains, to look at the casualties he was already taking on his flanks from these, quote, And turn around and say, this wasn't a good idea, I'm going back to Asia Minor where I can outlast all this.

02:44:57.000 That's what made him great.

02:44:59.000 From him, since him, you have the Indians, you have the Persians, you have the Mongolians under Genghis Khan, you have the British, you have the Russians, and now the Americans are going to succeed where all those didn't? 0.62

02:45:12.000 Give me a break.

02:45:15.000 Oh boy, so what?

02:45:16.000 We're going to be there in five years still.

02:45:18.000 It's just never going to end.

02:45:19.000 A meat grinder they feed troops into and out of it comes oil pipelines and opium. 0.82

02:45:24.000 Well, I'm hopeful that the American people, you know, if they listen to people like us, finally, I think that I have some basic faith in the American people.

02:45:32.000 They're good sense, and I think there's a limit to what they will tolerate.

02:45:36.000 The big challenge, of course, Alex, and the reason I come on your show and applaud what you're doing is that you're one of the few people that tell it like it is.

02:45:46.000 You're not under the fawning corporate media, and that's what we need.

02:45:50.000 We need people to listen and then act.

02:45:53.000 And I think action is necessary right now.

02:45:55.000 Well, again, for those who just joined us, I'm not heaping laurels on you, sir, but people need to know you've been right.

02:46:01.000 A full year and a half before it came out with Cy Hirsch and New Yorker Magazine, it was confirmed that Cheney wanted to paint up patrol boats blue and have Navy SEALs attack our own ships, and that was confirmed.

02:46:14.000 Bush, of all people, said, no, we're not doing that.

02:46:16.000 But it just shows the mental level.

02:46:19.000 You came on air and said, well, if I was Cheney and Bush, they'll probably paint up some ships like Iranians. 1.00

02:46:25.000 This is on record on this show and attack our ships.

02:46:27.000 And later I said, did you have inside intel?

02:46:29.000 You just said, no, that's how these people work.

02:46:32.000 And now I want to shift gears and ask the difference between Cheney and Bush and Obama.

02:46:36.000 It's now come out.

02:46:37.000 And I have it here in my stack.

02:46:40.000 Washington Post, CNN, Business Insider.

02:46:44.000 Cheney had gotten his way.

02:46:46.000 We would have gone to war with Russia. 0.95

02:46:48.000 And it's basically admitted in Ron Asmus' new book, who was inside these meetings, that NATO was part of it.

02:46:56.000 They launched the attack.

02:46:58.000 Uh, you know, uh, back, uh, you know, through Georgia, against South Ossetia on 888, and that Cheney wanted to go ahead and have nuclear war.

02:47:05.000 I mean, that, that really shows these are completely unstable people, uh, like, like, you know, Curtis LeMay or somebody.

02:47:11.000 And, and so, that mindset, has that carried over into Obama?

02:47:15.000 Because when I see him out there, at least at some levels, supporting Israel and Netanyahu, saying they may hit Iran, can, can, can you speak to, you know, the mindset in the Pentagon?

02:47:25.000 Is any of this Cheney stuff left there?

02:47:27.000 Versus what's going on in the White House now, and then how that posture, the posture you believe from your research is there, how that's going to affect what goes on in Iran and now North Korea.

02:47:43.000 Well, Iran, I think, is the most pressing issue.

02:47:47.000 It's the one that the President has most difficulty with because the pressure from what is called the Likud Lobby, other people call it the Israel Lobby, is immense.

02:47:59.000 And that's been demonstrated recently by a whole string of events.

02:48:04.000 Dennis Blair, a former four-star admiral who headed up the national intelligence setup in our country, was canned last week.

02:48:13.000 Why?

02:48:13.000 Well, there were a bunch of misadventures with not catching potential terrorists, but the basic reason, in my view, that he was canned was that he had the temerity, 15 months ago, to appoint a person to be the chief analyst in our government, the chief intelligence analyst, a person named Chas Freeman,

02:48:34.000 Who made the very bad mistake of saying publicly that he thought Palestinians also had rights as human beings in addition to Israelis.

02:48:44.000 Now, what happened was, he was appointed by Dennis Blair.

02:48:48.000 This is not a cabinet appointment.

02:48:49.000 This is within his own little purview, head of the National Intelligence Council, Chas Freeman.

02:48:55.000 He was appointed in the morning and he had lunch with David Broder of the Post.

02:49:00.000 And David said, aren't you expecting a lot of opposition?

02:49:03.000 And Freeman said, nah, it's going to sail through.

02:49:05.000 Then Blair got up saying about the appointment and saying he was a terrific person.

02:49:12.000 By 5 o'clock in the afternoon.

02:49:15.000 Senator Chuck Schumer, Senator Lieberman from Connecticut, had gotten to Rahm Emanuel in the White House and said, we can't have this guy.

02:49:23.000 He's too unbiased.

02:49:26.000 He doesn't react with knee-jerk solidity to the interests of Israel.

02:49:32.000 And so, Blair had to go back to Freeman and say, you know, I'm going to have to ask you to ask me to withhold your nominee, to reverse your appointment.

02:49:43.000 It wasn't like a nomination.

02:49:45.000 He had been appointed.

02:49:47.000 So he served as National Intelligence Director for eight hours, okay?

02:49:51.000 Now, that is unprecedented.

02:49:53.000 I've seen a lot of stuff in my 50 years in Washington, but never before have I seen the Israel lobby or any other lobby derail an appointment that had already been made In the bowels of the intelligence community.

02:50:05.000 Now, to the extent... So you're saying Israel's got pull that our government doesn't even have?

02:50:10.000 Well, that seems to be the case.

02:50:12.000 I had hoped it would be different with Obama, but it's not.

02:50:15.000 Now, the other thing that's really important is this.

02:50:18.000 We broached an agreement to Iran.

02:50:21.000 Which would have resulted in about 70% of their low-enriched uranium being shipped out of the country for reprocessing for their medical reactor.

02:50:31.000 That was October of last year.

02:50:31.000 Okay?

02:50:34.000 Now, that didn't work out, partly because of insurgents in Iran funded by the U.S., Israel, and Pakistan.

02:50:46.000 Ray, I'm sorry.

02:50:46.000 We've got a break.

02:50:47.000 Stay there.

02:50:48.000 I'll see if I can twist your arm to stay five into the next hour so we have at least ten minutes of air time to finish up on Iran, and briefly, North Korea.

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02:54:40.000 Okay, Ray, we've only got about four Four minutes here, five minutes in the next segment.

02:54:42.000 Again, very thankful for your time.

02:54:45.000 You were finishing up with the situation with Iran.

02:54:47.000 Netanyahu says they may strike.

02:54:50.000 Talking to folks in intelligence, out of intelligence, with your ear to the ground.

02:54:55.000 Is it on the front burner again?

02:54:57.000 And what's the time frame?

02:54:59.000 And then see what will happen if we do attack.

02:55:03.000 Well, to address your last point first, Alex, it would be a catastrophe if we and or the Israelis attacked Iran.

02:55:14.000 Among other things, they have the option of closing the Strait of Hormuz.

02:55:18.000 to which about a third of the traded oil goes through for the world.

02:55:26.000 And talk about a recession, well, it would throw the world into a tailspin given the dependence on oil.

02:55:33.000 The situation right now is highly interesting.

02:55:38.000 The bottom line is that the Israel lobby has shown its power once again. 0.93

02:55:42.000 And, now get this, this is the important conclusion, at least from my analysis.

02:55:49.000 Neither Israel nor the United States is terribly worried about a nuclear weapon in Iran.

02:55:57.000 If they were, They would have welcomed this new tripartite deal between Brazil, Turkey, and Iran, which provides for half, fully half, of the low-enriched uranium to go out of country into Turkey.

02:56:13.000 Now, that's the uranium that would have to be refined to a higher degree to make a bomb.

02:56:18.000 So, if half of Iran's uranium is going out of the country for a whole year, wouldn't you think that the Israelis in the U.S. 0.60

02:56:27.000 would be happy about that?

02:56:28.000 Yeah, Iran is buckling.

02:56:30.000 I mean, every time, going back, as you know, five years, they try to be friendly, they get slapped down.

02:56:36.000 Yeah.

02:56:36.000 Well, what happened, as soon as this deal was announced, Hillary Clinton got up and said, no, no, no, we're not going to go that route.

02:56:44.000 That's naive.

02:56:45.000 What we're going to do is sanctions in the UN, and we're persuaded the Russians and the Chinese, and we're going to just get these guys. 0.99

02:56:51.000 Well, you know, that's really interesting, because you know what?

02:56:55.000 The President of the United States encouraged the head of Brazil and the head of Turkey to work out this deal.

02:57:03.000 And we have that in a letter from President Obama.

02:57:07.000 You won't find this in the New York Times, by the way, but if you look in the Sao Paulo press there in Brazil, you'll see the text of a letter from the president of the United States which says to the president of Brazil, from our point of view, a decision by Iran to send half of its low-enriched uranium abroad a decision by Iran to send half of its low-enriched uranium abroad would generate confidence and reduce regional tensions by cutting

02:57:31.000 So we're about to break, but to interrupt, correct me if I'm wrong, basically it's showing there's a fight going on inside the Obama administration and that they were trying to do something reasonable, but somebody else has come in and said, uh-uh.

02:57:41.000 Yeah, that's not going to wash in November, they said, because the lobby will object to that.

02:57:46.000 Thank you.

02:57:47.000 Thank you.

02:57:48.000 That is incredible!

02:57:49.000 It really is!

02:57:50.000 And you won't find it in the New York Times, will you?

02:57:52.000 But that's the text of the President's letter to Brazil.

02:57:56.000 And Hillary Clinton and the other neocons, and those particularly susceptible to influence from the Likud lobby, have put the kibosh on what should be a very, very favorable, very encouraging development, namely for Iran to ship half of its uranium out of country. 0.76

02:58:14.000 So we're coming back with only five more minutes.

02:58:17.000 Just fast when we come back.

02:58:19.000 What's the game plan then?

02:58:20.000 The game plan is regime change.

02:58:22.000 That's what they care about.

02:58:23.000 And anything that will make Ahmadinejad look more reasonable or make Iran look better, they're against because they don't care about the uranium.

02:58:32.000 They care about regime change.

02:58:35.000 We'll talk about North Korea coming up.

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02:59:54.000 All right, we got the runner-up for Miss USA on who lost because she is for states' we got the runner-up for Miss USA on who lost because She's going to be joining us in the next segment.

03:00:15.000 Ray McGovern, you've got the floor.

03:00:17.000 Former CIA top analyst to the president.

03:00:21.000 You wanted to finish up with the neocons admitting it's not about nukes in Iran and then briefly the situation on the Korean Peninsula.

03:00:29.000 Sure, I think the most recent very clear indication of what bothers the neocons and the Israel lobby is in Tom Friedman's, he's a very much pro-Israel fellow, his op-ed in the New York Times yesterday He's got a couple of lies in it.

03:00:48.000 He says experts say that they still have enough uranium to do a nuclear weapon.

03:00:53.000 That's wrong.

03:00:53.000 The intelligence community does not say that.

03:00:56.000 They also suggest that the Iranian facilities are not under U.N.

03:01:02.000 inspection.

03:01:03.000 That's wrong.

03:01:04.000 What makes it clear is he's not interested in the uranium.

03:01:07.000 He's interested in regime change, and he finishes up with that appeal.

03:01:12.000 So, what we need to realize here is that this whole thing is easily explainable.

03:01:17.000 Why the U.S.

03:01:17.000 and why the Israelis would not welcome the shipping out of half of Iran's uranium for reprocessing elsewhere is because they don't care about that.

03:01:27.000 They care about regime change, and what they're trying to do is get that to happen largely through a lot of covert action, support of disparate groups within Iran, now openly acknowledged by the New York Times.

03:01:41.000 article yesterday, and that's what put the kibosh on the last deal.

03:01:45.000 In October, Jundala, one of the militant dissident, actually insurgent groups in Iran, supported by Israel, us, UK, and Pakistan, killed five senior Iranian Revolutionary Guards generals, and that's what killed five senior Iranian Revolutionary Guards generals, and that's what put the kibosh on the last deal.

03:02:05.000 Now, it's interesting to see that The New York Times is advertising the same kind of activity now.

03:02:11.000 We'll see how hard Israel and the United States tries to put the kibosh on this deal, which really should go through and would obviate the necessity.

03:02:20.000 So they're moving us towards war, doing everything they can to sabotage a peace process, and this will go down in history either way.

03:02:28.000 Oh wait, two minutes left, sir.

03:02:30.000 North Korea.

03:02:31.000 Well, you know, Alex, it's really interesting, because we don't have the whole story on what happened.

03:02:36.000 It looks pretty sure that a North Korean torpedo did hit this South Korean ship, but the details have not been released.

03:02:45.000 They may give it to the Russians and the Chinese, but not to us.

03:02:49.000 The problem is that there's an armistice, there's not a peace agreement, and there are disputed territories.

03:02:55.000 There are North Korean and South Korean fishermen fighting over crabs every year, and this is the season.

03:03:01.000 And there are South Korean ships and North Korean ships both killed or sunk.

03:03:07.000 1999, a North Korean ship went down with 30 killed and 70 wounded.

03:03:14.000 So unless they get that shoreline and that international boundary delineated, this is going to keep happening.

03:03:22.000 So this should not be blown out of proportion and still less should Hillary Clinton use the same language used by Dean Acheson back in 1950, that this is, quote, unprovoked aggression, end quote. 0.97

03:03:34.000 It may be a provocation, it may be retaliation, we just don't know yet.

03:03:40.000 Well, we know Kim Jong-il looks like a scarecrow, looks like death warmed over, so anytime we could see a collapse of the regime, and who knows how that'll go, so it's another powder keg.

03:03:50.000 That's exactly right.

03:03:51.000 No one really knows what's going on within that country, and so it's really hard to guess as to what the motivation might have been, other than the normal sort of jousting, the normal trying to head off ships from the other country.

03:04:08.000 Well, that's good news to hear that you're not as concerned about North Korea as the media has been hyping it to be.

03:04:14.000 So we'll continue to watch that.

03:04:15.000 I appreciate you coming on to cover what's happening all over the planet and the geopolitical breakdown.

03:04:21.000 And I look forward to talking to Ray McGovern, a retired former senior CIA analyst, to the president.

03:04:27.000 God bless you, sir.

03:04:27.000 Thank you.

03:04:30.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm very excited about our next guest, and we are going to open the phones up for her.

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03:08:00.000 Arizona's new immigration statute authorizes law enforcement authorities to check the citizenship of anyone they believe may be in the country illegally.

03:08:09.000 Now listen to the question before you move.

03:08:13.000 Critics say this may amount to racial profiling.

03:08:18.000 Do you think that this should be mandated by the state or by the federal government?

03:08:24.000 I'm a huge believer in states' rights.

03:08:27.000 I think that's what's so wonderful about America.

03:08:37.000 So I think it's perfectly fine for Arizona to create that law.

03:08:42.000 And I am against illegal immigration, but I'm also against racial profiling.

03:08:46.000 So I see both sides in this issue.

03:08:49.000 Thank you all for coming.

03:08:52.000 Now, I don't normally watch beauty pageants, because I don't watch a lot of television, but when I am watching the news, I see highlights of it.

03:08:59.000 I'm obviously red-blooded, so my eyes are trained like a wolf looking at a, you know, a... But the issue here is that I happened to be up here while this was live, turned on the television, and saw all the ladies come out.

03:09:12.000 And I remember looking at Morgan Elizabeth Woollard, Miss Oklahoma, and thinking, well, she certainly stands out.

03:09:20.000 Because it's more than just looks.

03:09:21.000 She's obviously beautiful.

03:09:22.000 I could tell she was intelligent.

03:09:23.000 She had that spark about her.

03:09:26.000 And it's great to see her so informed about the Bill of Rights and Constitution and Ninth and Tenth Amendment versus Miss Teen South Carolina, who literally didn't even know what planet she was on.

03:09:37.000 We'll play that clip coming up later.

03:09:39.000 But I didn't know I was watching controversy when I happened to watch 30 minutes of it that evening because I didn't continue to watch to see the final judging.

03:09:49.000 And then I discovered and the news reported she may have lost because she didn't answer that politically correct.

03:09:55.000 You heard the.

03:09:57.000 The judge asked about the Arizona law and he said, well wait, don't boo yet.

03:10:02.000 And then she got this big standing ovation that I would say was five, six, seven times louder than the boos, and we'll play it again coming up just to have it on record, that the people responded to states' rights.

03:10:16.000 I mean, the government's too big, it's out of control.

03:10:18.000 Mexico's collapsing, but you know she went on to say, like Ron Paul, Congressman, said here yesterday, he is against racial profiling if it's misused.

03:10:25.000 But that wasn't good enough.

03:10:27.000 But to really pick her brain, because there's nothing like beauty and brains all together, is Morgan Elizabeth Woollard, the runner-up, second place in Miss USA. 0.58

03:10:37.000 Great to have you here with us.

03:10:38.000 Thanks for coming on.

03:10:40.000 Thank you very much.

03:10:41.000 Thank you for having me.

03:10:43.000 Again, Miss Oklahoma on the line with us. 0.99

03:10:45.000 Well, I mean, let's go back to the pageant a week and a half ago.

03:10:49.000 What happened there?

03:10:51.000 Anything that happened behind the scenes?

03:10:53.000 Break it down for us.

03:10:55.000 The behind the scenes?

03:10:56.000 Well, what do you mean?

03:10:57.000 We're there two and a half weeks before the actual telecast.

03:11:00.000 And so, there are a lot of behind the scenes to discuss.

03:11:04.000 Exactly, that's what I meant.

03:11:05.000 I mean, because all we see is the limited cuts.

03:11:08.000 I mean, did somebody say something to you after you answered that way?

03:11:12.000 Or did you ever get word like, ooh, that was a screw-up, you should have called for world government, or you should have called for us turning our guns in?

03:11:20.000 Well, I mean, they don't speak to you at all afterward about, you know, how you answered your question, but I think afterward, of course, the media definitely brought that to my attention and were wondering, simply from the scoring, you know, I was actually ahead the entire competition until then, and of course, having judges in the entertainment industry, which is predominantly liberal, they do question whether it hurt my chances or not.

03:11:46.000 Yeah, that's a key statistics that Fox News did cover and Miss Oklahoma named first runner-up in Miss USA pageant after answering immigration questions. 0.93

03:11:55.000 You were way ahead until that point.

03:11:58.000 I mean, where there's smoke, there's fire.

03:11:59.000 And I don't, I mean, I talked to you earlier, you don't want to be somebody who's a sword loser, but if you were ahead and then suddenly you got behind, I mean, that is suspicious.

03:12:12.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess so.

03:12:15.000 With me, I just kind of have to have a positive perspective and, you know, when you work so hard for something, the last thing you want to think of is the way you answered your question, is what did you win.

03:12:26.000 And so, I just choose not to flagellate my mind with anything condemning like that and, you know, not be a sore loser or victimize myself, but rise above it and be happy for Rima and just move on to the next chapter of my life.

03:12:40.000 Well, she is obviously intelligent and lovely as well, but I think you are the clear winner.

03:12:45.000 And again, the entire time, thank you, you were ahead until you didn't answer the thing politically correct.

03:12:52.000 And, you know, the issue is, tell us about the rules, because I'm not an expert on this.

03:12:55.000 In fact, I'm ignorant on this subject.

03:12:59.000 Is it political?

03:13:00.000 Do the judges tell you, if I don't agree with your politics, I'm going to vote against you?

03:13:04.000 Because, you know, we need to know if it is rigged.

03:13:07.000 I mean, I understand you don't want to go there, but this is quite an issue.

03:13:13.000 Well, I don't think the USC system is quite as transparent with their judging criteria and how the whole process goes.

03:13:23.000 But I believe once you get to the top 5, or I think even through 15, 10 to 5, they erase the scores entirely and it starts all over again.

03:13:31.000 And so, once you do make top 5 and answer a question, you have a final look, and I believe they rank you after that.

03:13:40.000 And so, you know, it could be they liked her personality better.

03:13:43.000 I don't know.

03:13:46.000 You know, all I can say is I did my best, and I'm proud of my answer.

03:13:50.000 I have no regrets.

03:13:51.000 People ask me all the time if I would have voted differently.

03:13:54.000 No, I do believe in states' rights, and I think I took a stance, but I did it diplomatically.

03:14:00.000 Well, you certainly did.

03:14:02.000 Very diplomatic.

03:14:03.000 You could be an ambassador for the U.S.

03:14:05.000 in the future.

03:14:06.000 I mean, you answered it perfectly.

03:14:07.000 Well, that was my hope of becoming a USA.

03:14:12.000 To be an ambassador for my country.

03:14:14.000 Dad just was not on the cards for me, and I was blessed to even compete for such a prestigious title, so first runner-up is quite the honor.

03:14:23.000 Well, you know, I'm really proud of you and so are my listeners.

03:14:26.000 We got a lot of fan mail for you here at the office.

03:14:28.000 People just calling in and emails, just when we played the clip, saying, wow, this is wonderful, especially in Oklahoma, your home state, where you are, Miss Oklahoma, because people appreciated you not going with the politically correct answer, because that's what really is valuable, is telling the truth, standing up for what you believe in.

03:14:48.000 And so, you know, that made you the winner overall when it came to defending this republic.

03:14:52.000 Thank you very much.

03:14:53.000 Give us your take on states' rights and the Arizona issue, because you only had a few seconds to talk about it then.

03:15:01.000 Now you've got more time.

03:15:02.000 Right.

03:15:03.000 And that's what makes it even more difficult, I think.

03:15:06.000 You know, this is such a hot-button issue that is on our TVs, you know, 20 hours of the day, and I have 20 seconds to sum it up.

03:15:16.000 That is not the easiest thing in the world.

03:15:18.000 And I think I'd also like to clarify, which I don't think a lot of people realize, is they didn't ask me whether I was for or against the law.

03:15:27.000 They asked me whether I felt it should be, you know, state or federal.

03:15:32.000 And I firmly believe in states' rights.

03:15:36.000 I think a state should be allowed to mandate rules and regulations as they see fit.

03:15:41.000 I love that we can put power in the hands of the people, and I fully support that.

03:15:48.000 Well, on top of it, Napolitano, the head of Homeland Security, last week in congressional testimony, being questioned by John McCain, said, I haven't read the Arizona bill.

03:15:58.000 Yes, that's correct.

03:16:00.000 Oh, you saw that?

03:16:01.000 I did, yes.

03:16:04.000 I mean, how can then she condemn it if she hasn't read it?

03:16:06.000 Because I have read it.

03:16:07.000 I've read it here on air.

03:16:08.000 It is identical to the federal law.

03:16:10.000 Eric Holder.

03:16:11.000 He hasn't read it as well, I believe.

03:16:16.000 Who did you say hasn't read it?

03:16:18.000 Attorney General Eric Holder.

03:16:20.000 Yes, yes, you're right.

03:16:20.000 He admits it.

03:16:22.000 So, what's your take on them commenting on something they haven't read?

03:16:26.000 Well, I certainly think that's an issue.

03:16:30.000 I think, you know, before you believe in something, If you're firmly against something, you should know what all that bill entails and what is within it.

03:16:41.000 So, I think that is certainly an issue.

03:16:47.000 Wow.

03:16:47.000 Well, listen, while you're here on air, we've got you until about 45 after.

03:16:50.000 We're appreciative of the time.

03:16:52.000 Anything else you want to set the record straight on?

03:16:54.000 We're talking to Miss Oklahoma. 1.00

03:16:56.000 She got second place runner-up in Miss USA.

03:16:59.000 She was ahead the entire time until she didn't sell America out on national television. 1.00

03:17:07.000 But again, she's being a good sport. 1.00

03:17:11.000 Well, you know, if I think there was one thing that I could set the record straight with, it would just be that I'm one who does not want to victimize myself.

03:17:18.000 But anything else you want to set the record straight about?

03:17:20.000 Well, you know, if I think there was one thing that I could set the record straight with, it would just be that I'm one who does not want to victimize myself.

03:17:30.000 I think a lot of promos in the media are saying, Miss Oklahoma lost her crown because of what she said. 0.72

03:17:36.000 And, you know, truthfully, yes, it was a volatile question, and it was doomed for a polarizing answer.

03:17:42.000 But I really don't want to victimize myself necessarily.

03:17:47.000 Miss USA wasn't a do-or-die situation for me.

03:17:50.000 It would have been an incredible honor to represent the USA system and Donald Trump and my country.

03:17:56.000 But, you know, that didn't work out for me, and being scholastically and professionally active, I know that I have great things coming in life regardless, and so I just want people to know I'm not bitter, I am not a victim, and that I'm going to do good things with my life regardless of the crown.

03:18:14.000 Well, I honor that, and I know my listeners do, so you're being a great sport about it.

03:18:20.000 But I want to be clear.

03:18:21.000 I think people who do think that that question was wrong and do think that you were penalized, I think in future, the fans of Miss USA should put their input in about the transparency of the judging rules so that the young ladies know what they're going into.

03:18:42.000 Right.

03:18:45.000 Now, you're very young.

03:18:46.000 I mean, you're in a, what, a sophomore or junior in college?

03:18:49.000 A junior in college.

03:18:49.000 I'm 21 years old.

03:18:51.000 And so you can continue to be part of pageants.

03:18:53.000 This isn't your last rodeo.

03:18:55.000 Well, yes and no.

03:18:58.000 The USA System, it goes on to Miss Universe, and because of that, it's the most prestigious pageant in the world.

03:19:06.000 And so, I've kind of already competed as far up as I can go, and so if I wanted to compete, there are other There's Miss World, there's Miss International, and there's of course Miss America, who has the talent portion.

03:19:21.000 And so, you know, I'm open-minded to that, but I think at this point in my life I'm ready to move on and pursue my career and finish my education and that kind of thing.

03:19:32.000 I don't completely shut it out, but at this moment in time I don't think I'll be competing Well, that's great.

03:19:38.000 I mean, you're very well balanced.

03:19:39.000 You've got a larger universe out there than just these beauty pageants, but it is great to have Miss Oklahoma with us. 0.99

03:19:46.000 We'll talk about her worldview and what she's planning in her career next when we get back.

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03:24:05.000 I personally believe that U.S.

03:24:08.000 Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have maps and I believe that our education, like such as Thank you Miss South Carolina.

03:24:23.000 Iraq, everywhere such as. 0.97

03:24:25.000 And I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. or should help South Africa.

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03:24:39.000 Thank you, Ms. South Carolina.

03:24:44.000 It is refreshing to have Ms. Oklahoma on with us and runner-up for Ms. USA to have someone who is very intelligent.

03:24:56.000 Because my experience is beautiful women are just as smart as, you know, on average as other intelligent women. 1.00

03:25:01.000 But I don't want you to say mean things here.

03:25:03.000 But what was your take on Ms. Teen South Carolina and that big controversy a few years ago?

03:25:11.000 Well, you know, I'm not one to judge anyone.

03:25:15.000 So all I can say is...

03:25:18.000 God bless her and it's, you know, it's not easy being up there in front of millions of people and lights in your face, you know, and possibly becoming a potential YouTube moment.

03:25:30.000 There's a lot going through your brain, so you gotta give her some credit for at least putting herself out there and, you know, doing her best, right?

03:25:38.000 Hey, at least she got in the arena. 1.00

03:25:40.000 I'm just saying, comparing her to you, it is night and day.

03:25:45.000 Now, during the break, I brought up Carrie Prejean, if I'm pronouncing that right.

03:25:51.000 I vaguely remember last year, the big controversy, where she said, my parents brought me up to be pro-family, and marriage is an institution that deals with that, and you said, well,

03:26:03.000 I get asked about a lot of that, and you told me privately your views on it, but it's such a hot issue, so putting it as nicely as you can, I mean, you were explaining the parallel of even if you basically were dissed for answering the question the way you were, you don't want to be seen as basically running with it or milking it?

03:26:26.000 Right.

03:26:27.000 Well, you know, I think a lot of people have been comparing me to Kerry Prejean or saying, I'm the next Carrie Prejean, because it is kind of ironic.

03:26:36.000 You know, she gets the gay marriage question, I get the illegal immigration question.

03:26:41.000 We both gave fairly conservative answers, are pretty blondes, then end up fresh underwrap, right? 1.00

03:26:47.000 Um, so, there are definitely some comparisons there, but I just didn't want to victimize myself.

03:26:53.000 I felt she kind of melts her time in the media just for being controversial, and, um, I just didn't want people to see me as the same or victimize me or anything along those lines, if that makes sense.

03:27:09.000 But, I mean, every year now it's about politics, people losing who are the runner-ups because they have conservative or constitutional or traditional values.

03:27:19.000 I think Donald Trump needs to get the politics out of this because the message to people is You know, if you don't have the right political view, it's not how talented or how beautiful or how dynamic you are.

03:27:31.000 You know, this is political correctness.

03:27:33.000 And I think, frankly, I think it was political correctness.

03:27:36.000 I mean, I think the Lebanese woman is bombshell beautiful, but I don't think she was in the top five. 0.51

03:27:42.000 I mean, I happened to, again, just catch about 20 minutes of it.

03:27:45.000 It was pure torture, of course, while I was drinking coffee after my Sunday show.

03:27:49.000 But I mean, I'm sorry.

03:27:52.000 I don't think she's second place.

03:27:53.000 I saw you out there on that runway, and let me tell you, it was like my eyes were on springs.

03:27:58.000 I hope my wife's not listening.

03:28:01.000 I'm sorry, but no, I mean, seriously.

03:28:02.000 I mean, I thought you were the most beautiful.

03:28:05.000 You popped out there.

03:28:06.000 That's the reason you were in the leadership role.

03:28:08.000 And if you'd have said, I'm against Arizona, I love open borders, I love world government, I love crime, it would have been bong, bong, bong, you know, jackpot, you're the winner.

03:28:17.000 I'm sorry, they stole it from you.

03:28:21.000 You know, again, I would hope that's not the case, but you're actually correct, actually.

03:28:26.000 Rima, while she is stunningly beautiful, if you average some evening gown, I think she was actually in seventh place.

03:28:36.000 And so, you know, winning, I'm so proud of her, and I think it's awesome that she's Arab-American, and I think that's, you know, a great, neat thing for our country, but It is a little disappointing for me, you know, when you want something so badly and...

03:28:53.000 So close, but so far.

03:28:56.000 But again, I'm doing okay.

03:28:58.000 I'm not bitter.

03:28:59.000 And I'm just excited for what's next in my life.

03:29:02.000 I know.

03:29:03.000 But there you are, though.

03:29:04.000 See, you just backed that up with statistics.

03:29:06.000 She was in seventh place.

03:29:08.000 She was way back there. 0.98

03:29:09.000 She wasn't in, you know, it's like a NASCAR race.

03:29:11.000 You got two or three of the top drivers.

03:29:13.000 You know, they're up there on the last lap.

03:29:15.000 And then all of a sudden, you answered that question wrong.

03:29:18.000 And your engine blew up.

03:29:19.000 And then, you know, seventh place goes, Nyerl, nyerl, nyerl, nyerl.

03:29:23.000 I mean, come on.

03:29:25.000 Come on! 0.61

03:29:26.000 You know, Rima, honestly, she's got the funniest, goofiest personality, and I really think she just won him over in her interview, because she's just such a relatable, um... Miss Oklahoma, stay there! 0.53

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03:33:11.000 Morgan Elizabeth Willard is our guest for another segment.

03:33:15.000 I've got some final news I want to hit on the financial front with world markets collapsing all over the place in the last segment today.

03:33:23.000 Again, thank you for joining us, radio listeners.

03:33:28.000 I want to go to calls, but I also want to talk about you and the future.

03:33:32.000 I mean, you're intelligent, you're smart, you're a constitutionalist, you're for states' rights, you've been punished for standing up for your rights even if you won't Well, that's a loaded question.

03:33:40.000 But I think that's in a way admirable that you're not being a spoiled sport.

03:33:44.000 But it's not a spoiled sport if you were cheated.

03:33:46.000 But, again, discretion is the greater valor, I guess they say.

03:33:52.000 But where are you planning to go from here?

03:33:54.000 I was telling you during the break, you ought to write a book about this and interweave in there your political views.

03:34:01.000 Well, that's a loaded question.

03:34:06.000 Oh, my goodness.

03:34:07.000 So much to say there.

03:34:09.000 I have been incredibly blessed with being given numerous options from here to here.

03:34:16.000 You know, the Miss USA pageant, just the exposure itself is a blessing, especially if you want to be in the media, and so I'm very thankful for all the opportunities that have come my way because of this pageant.

03:34:29.000 I'm already getting offers, you know, within the broadcasting world, modeling world, acting Posting, anything of that nature.

03:34:36.000 So I think right now I just need to decide what's best for me in my future and take a risk and go a direction.

03:34:43.000 And I also need to finish my education as well.

03:34:46.000 I'm getting close, but not quite there yet.

03:34:48.000 So hopefully I can find a way to pursue finishing my education and starting my career at the same time.

03:34:56.000 Well let me just inject this.

03:34:58.000 There's a lot of anchors on television like Peter Jennings that don't have degrees.

03:35:04.000 And I would strike while the iron's hot.

03:35:06.000 You can always go back to college, but right now you're smart, you're talented, you're well-spoken, you're beautiful.

03:35:12.000 I would get into the media and I would take every opportunity you've got right now.

03:35:17.000 Because I'm not bashing college and education, that's fine and dandy.

03:35:20.000 It's just that Bill Gates, Rush Limbaugh, if you look at the statistics, over 90% of the top CEOs, media people, you name it, didn't go to college or quit college because they were already go-getters.

03:35:32.000 By 20 years old, halfway into college, they already had opportunities.

03:35:36.000 Same thing with me.

03:35:37.000 I was 21, I had about another year and a half of college left, I'd already gone and gotten a radio show locally, and I was sayonara.

03:35:44.000 But again, I'm just saying strike while the iron's hot.

03:35:47.000 Strike while you're in the spotlight.

03:35:48.000 Because you could argue, due to that controversial question and your controversial answer for some, you almost got more attention than the lady that won Miss USA. 0.98

03:35:57.000 So at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if they stole the crown from you, because you still win!

03:36:01.000 Yes, you know, it really is a win-win situation.

03:36:06.000 I'm incredibly blessed, and again, so grateful for all these opportunities.

03:36:12.000 So you're getting a lot of offers right now.

03:36:15.000 Acting, TV, you name it.

03:36:16.000 Just dive in with both feet.

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03:36:18.000 You know, I think the hardest part is just figuring out which route to take.

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03:36:25.000 You want to do what's best for your future.

03:36:27.000 And take the bull by the horn and make the right decision.

03:36:32.000 And I think that's Well, let me give you some advice.

03:36:36.000 Don't sign anything.

03:36:38.000 Try a lot of different things.

03:36:40.000 Because Hollywood TV, it's full of a lot of flim flamers, a lot of talkers.

03:36:45.000 But just, you know, I would go with the big companies or established companies who can give you bonafide money at the bottom.

03:36:53.000 Because they'll sit there and string you along to see where your career's going.

03:36:57.000 So, I mean, again, I would just hit the ground running and try a lot of things out.

03:37:01.000 And that's why I'm warning you.

03:37:03.000 Because most people won't do this.

03:37:04.000 College, especially when you're already being launched and propelled, you can always go back into the college.

03:37:11.000 You can't always get this advantage you've got right now.

03:37:14.000 You can't always get the present back.

03:37:17.000 Right.

03:37:18.000 And that's kind of another position I'm in, in regards to being in between a rock and a hard place.

03:37:25.000 Because both of my parents are within the medical field, and they're all about Education, education, education.

03:37:33.000 And so, um, for me, I just need to find a place or relocate to a place that I can pursue both at once.

03:37:41.000 That's the way to do it.

03:37:43.000 That you need to take advantage of things while they're hot.

03:37:46.000 And, you know, when they're in front of you, you gotta grab them.

03:37:49.000 Otherwise, life might, you know, pass you by.

03:37:51.000 When things are hot in front of you, you gotta grab them.

03:37:56.000 That's a good quote from Miss Oklahoma. 1.00

03:38:02.000 Absolutely!

03:38:03.000 So you could go to Chicago, New York, LA, places like that and... Sorry, go ahead.

03:38:12.000 Oh, I was just agreeing.

03:38:14.000 Well, listen... I live in a big city.

03:38:16.000 Absolutely.

03:38:16.000 Well, before we go to Eric, Chris, Mike, and others with Miss Oklahoma, the Patriot, who we just love to death, give us some of your other views on the Second Amendment.

03:38:28.000 Have you heard all these world leaders calling for global government and that we need to have the private central banks running things?

03:38:34.000 What's your view on Ron Paul?

03:38:37.000 I think Ron Paul is a wonderful man and I agree with him on a lot of stances.

03:38:43.000 I've always been a bit of a constitutionalist myself.

03:38:46.000 And I believe in limited government and liberty and rule of law and all those wonderful things in America.

03:38:52.000 Self-governance, that kind of thing.

03:38:58.000 Well, that's wonderful.

03:39:00.000 Again, while we've got you here, where would you like to see our republic going?

03:39:07.000 Have you heard them talk on the news about forming this world government?

03:39:12.000 World government?

03:39:14.000 By that, do you mean giving the government more power?

03:39:17.000 Well, you've got Ban Ki-moon, the Secretary General of the UN, Herman Van Rompuy, the head of the EU, the outgoing Prime Minister of England, Gordon Brown, Al Gore.

03:39:26.000 The heads of the G20 are calling for a global government to set worldwide taxes.

03:39:32.000 And I was just asking if you were concerned about that.

03:39:35.000 I'm definitely concerned about that.

03:39:37.000 I've always been for limited government.

03:39:42.000 Being able to be your own keeper and having self-government and, you know, making something of yourself and not relying too much on the government for that.

03:39:49.000 And so, I'm definitely against big government in the world.

03:39:57.000 Well, I tell ya, I wish you were Miss USA.

03:40:00.000 Somebody to really represent our country.

03:40:02.000 But you are representing our country.

03:40:03.000 Thank you.

03:40:05.000 And people just appreciate that you didn't sell out your values.

03:40:09.000 I mean, you had to know, though, when he asked the question, that... I mean, did it run through your head?

03:40:14.000 Well, if I give the politically correct answer, he's gonna like that?

03:40:18.000 Or are you just such a patriot that there wasn't even a question?

03:40:22.000 Well, truthfully, in that moment in time, you don't have time to think.

03:40:27.000 You just go with what you know.

03:40:28.000 Exactly.

03:40:29.000 And, you know, I know who I am.

03:40:31.000 I know what I believe and why I believe it.

03:40:33.000 And with that said, it was easy for me to answer.

03:40:37.000 I didn't have to think twice about it because that's who I am and that's how I was raised and, you know, I stood firm in that.

03:40:46.000 Well, that's why people admire you, not just for your beauty or the electric presence, but the mind that powers it all.

03:40:55.000 So exciting.

03:40:56.000 Miss Oklahoma, Morgan Elizabeth Woollard is our guest.

03:41:00.000 We're now going to go to a few phone calls.

03:41:02.000 Let's talk to Eric in Oklahoma, your home state.

03:41:05.000 You're on with Miss Oklahoma.

03:41:07.000 Hi, Alex.

03:41:09.000 It's really good to talk to you.

03:41:10.000 It's been years since I've talked to you, actually.

03:41:12.000 Uh, my cousin was Miss America, Chantal Smith, in 87. 1.00

03:41:16.000 And she's just a beautiful girl, and Morgan, you're just another one.

03:41:19.000 You just represent Oklahoma wonderfully.

03:41:22.000 I'm very, very proud of you, and that's basically all I had to say.

03:41:26.000 Just proud to see Oklahoma girls just doing so well. 0.79

03:41:29.000 Thank you, sir, very much.

03:41:30.000 I appreciate that.

03:41:32.000 Miss USA has never had an Oklahoma Miss USA before, so I was hoping to make history there.

03:41:38.000 I was only a few short points off, but I was so proud to represent our state.

03:41:43.000 Oh, that's right.

03:41:44.000 You lost the pageant, but you kept your integrity, and that's what matters at the end of the day, and you'll be rewarded.

03:41:50.000 God will open bigger doors for you because you didn't sell out.

03:41:54.000 That's what's always happened with me.

03:41:56.000 I've been fired, you name it, before for not compromising, and it's just every time I do the right thing, it's just doors open up everywhere.

03:42:04.000 1-800-259-9231.

03:42:06.000 Specific questions for our guests.

03:42:08.000 Chris in Indiana, you're on the air with Miss Oklahoma.

03:42:12.000 Thank you Megan and Alex for taking my call.

03:42:15.000 First, your answer was outstanding.

03:42:19.000 Outstanding.

03:42:20.000 A beauty pageant is beyond just beauty and body.

03:42:24.000 It's mind and soul.

03:42:26.000 And you scored 10s on all of them.

03:42:27.000 So, thank you.

03:42:29.000 Thank you for being a good patriot.

03:42:30.000 Absolutely.

03:42:32.000 Proud to be an American.

03:42:35.000 21, in college, what is your opinion or what are you seeing as far as the increased police state?

03:42:43.000 Yeah, what do you think of the Patriot Act being used against US citizens?

03:42:50.000 They've got legislation introduced where citizens can be secretly arrested.

03:42:54.000 We're seeing in universities, I don't know about Oklahoma, but more and more censorship of libertarian or conservative political viewpoints.

03:43:02.000 Thanks for the call, Chris.

03:43:03.000 Let's get her take on that question.

03:43:06.000 I'm sorry, what exactly are you asking me?

03:43:08.000 Well, I mean, what do you think about the loss of liberty?

03:43:11.000 The erosion of the Bill of Rights?

03:43:12.000 Warrantless wiretapping?

03:43:15.000 Are you concerned about that?

03:43:17.000 Well, I think that kind of goes along with what we were speaking about earlier.

03:43:21.000 It's giving the government too much power.

03:43:23.000 And, you know, I don't want our freedoms to be taken away.

03:43:26.000 I don't want our liberty to be taken away.

03:43:29.000 I think those things is exactly what makes America, America.

03:43:34.000 And just being able to govern yourself and, you know, not having, like I said, the government controlling too many aspects of our lives, I definitely think there's a point where they need to step back and give us our freedom again.

03:43:49.000 Absolutely, and we've got to step up and take them back.

03:43:52.000 Absolutely.

03:43:53.000 Did you hear of the debate with Lou Dobbs and others about the North American Union, SPP, NAFTA superhighways, all these toll roads going in that the money then goes to foreign corporations in Spain and Europe?

03:44:05.000 I mean, A, have you heard of that?

03:44:06.000 B, what's your take on it?

03:44:09.000 I've not heard too much about that, to be honest, especially if it's recent.

03:44:14.000 Being in Vegas for Miss USA for three weeks, we kind of live in a fishbowl.

03:44:20.000 So I haven't been able to be watching the news as often as I normally do.

03:44:24.000 But as far as foreign nations go, I do think we need to become less dependent on them. 1.00

03:44:31.000 Let's take a call from Micah in New Orleans.

03:44:33.000 You're on the air with a runner-up in Miss USA who said she's for states' rights.

03:44:38.000 Go ahead.

03:44:39.000 It's an honor.

03:44:40.000 Ms.

03:44:40.000 Willard, I want to first congratulate your parents on raising a woman that is an inspiration in every manner and every way possible.

03:44:51.000 Thank you, sir.

03:44:52.000 You should be, uh, the Oklahoma should be proud, America should be proud, and you will be number one in our hearts and our minds forever.

03:45:03.000 Yeah, I want to say this.

03:45:04.000 I've got two great little blonde haired daughters and I hope they grow up to be as, you know, passionate and informed about our country.

03:45:11.000 I know they will be.

03:45:13.000 As Miss Oklahoma, go ahead.

03:45:15.000 I have no doubt, Alex, that your children are going to be firecrackers.

03:45:22.000 Miss Willard, do you have any brothers and sisters?

03:45:26.000 Yes, sir.

03:45:27.000 I have two older sisters.

03:45:30.000 Wonderful.

03:45:30.000 I'm certain that that's even more the reason to congratulate your parents.

03:45:35.000 And I would ask this, how do you feel about dating older men?

03:45:39.000 Okay.

03:45:40.000 All right.

03:45:40.000 I appreciate the call.

03:45:42.000 Let me throw this out there, though.

03:45:44.000 Are you looking forward to, you know, after you've gotten into your career, getting hitched and having some kids?

03:45:51.000 Oh, absolutely.

03:45:52.000 I'm a big believer in family.

03:45:55.000 And I'm looking forward to that day.

03:45:57.000 I don't know when that day will be, but I definitely am someone who wants to have a wonderful family and children and, you know, a great American family.

03:46:08.000 Well, it's been great having you here, and we appreciate your courage.

03:46:12.000 Did we ever find that clip, guys, of Carrie Pijon, however you pronounce it?

03:46:18.000 We didn't find that, because I heard it all over the news last year.

03:46:20.000 You can probably use YouTube, Carrie Pijon's Correct.

03:46:25.000 gay marriage comment uh i mean you're quite a person because you're out there in the spotlight as a model and there's somebody who wanted to win who was going to win until that question came up the evidence is clear but then now clearly i think you were cheated but you want to be a good sport and you're saying no uh you know i don't want to get attention by going out and screaming bloody murder correct you're exactly right

03:46:50.000 uh i mean are you critical of the lady who uh did milk it somewhat?

03:46:59.000 Well, for me, I think... I wouldn't say critical.

03:47:05.000 Definitely not of her answer.

03:47:07.000 This is America.

03:47:09.000 And in the First Amendment, we have freedom of speech.

03:47:12.000 And so, she had every right to speak her beliefs.

03:47:18.000 And so, I back her up fully with that.

03:47:21.000 In mine, but I do feel that she kind of took it and ran with it and kind of overexposed herself to the media, I guess.

03:47:30.000 And may have put a bad taste in people's mouth?

03:47:33.000 Yeah, maybe so.

03:47:35.000 So your problem isn't what she said.

03:47:37.000 Oh, not at all.

03:47:38.000 It's the fact that she did say, I was cheated, I was cheated.

03:47:41.000 Exactly.

03:47:42.000 I think, yeah, I think you should be humble in your loss and, you know, just realize that everything happens for a reason.

03:47:51.000 As much as it stings sometimes, just to know that greater things are in store and just look forward to what God has next for your life.

03:48:02.000 Absolutely.

03:48:03.000 It's all in God's hands.

03:48:04.000 Well, we appreciate you joining us.

03:48:08.000 We've got about a minute left.

03:48:09.000 Anything else that you forgot to add?

03:48:12.000 I don't think so.

03:48:13.000 Just, you know, how grateful I am for the overwhelming support I've received.

03:48:18.000 Everyone has been Absolutely incredible, not just from the state of Oklahoma, but my entire country and even people all over the world just showered with love and support and people backing me up from all over the place and so I'm so grateful and I really am just honored and humbled.

03:48:37.000 Well, that is my final question.

03:48:40.000 Going back, you know, you hear on the video, the audio, and it sounded like five, six, seven times the cheering that there was the booing.

03:48:48.000 You could barely hear the booing, but you were there.

03:48:51.000 I mean, was the cheering for you a lot more overwhelming than the booing?

03:48:57.000 Oh, without a doubt.

03:48:59.000 I think it tripled the booing.

03:49:01.000 As soon as I said I'm a firm believer in state strife and I love that about my country, everyone just Overflowed with, you know, clapping and cheering and I think the majority of the people there were in agreement with me on that statement.

03:49:18.000 Well, all I can say is incredible, and it has been great having you on the broadcast, and I know that there's quite a few websites that have your info up, but I'm not going to try to give you advice for your career, but I would get a basic website up quickly that's yours, just so you get directed, you know, just so you get contacted directly by the media outlets and others that are out there.

03:49:40.000 So we look forward to talking to Morgan Elizabeth Woolard again in the future.

03:49:45.000 Thank you for being so nice and spending so much time with us today.

03:49:48.000 Absolutely.

03:49:49.000 Thank you for having me and thank you everyone for listening and tuning in.

03:49:52.000 I appreciate it.

03:49:53.000 God bless you.

03:49:53.000 What a great patriot.

03:49:54.000 What a darling. 1.00

03:49:55.000 And the real winner of Miss USA.

03:49:58.000 Obviously cheated.

03:49:59.000 I had the entire time until the end when she didn't bow down to the La Reconquista and the New World Order and the Infisora.

03:50:07.000 But look, I just spent 50 minutes with her because People wanted to have her on, and she stood up for what she believed in, and we've got a lot of other hardcore subjects that I covered in the first hour of the show.

03:50:21.000 I'm going to cover some financial news when we come back to the last segment that's very important.

03:50:25.000 But good job to Jaren and the rest of the crew for getting her on the show.

03:50:31.000 Interesting interview.

03:50:33.000 And I'll tell you, the crew liked this guest.

03:50:36.000 It's better than CIA analyst and economist and things.

03:50:41.000 Of course, I have to be quite frank with you.

03:50:44.000 Those are my favorite type of guests, because I like to get people thinking, but you know what?

03:50:48.000 All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

03:50:51.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

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03:54:04.000 Is Europe heading for a meltdown?

03:54:07.000 This is out of the London Telegraph.

03:54:10.000 It's up on GCNlive.com.

03:54:12.000 The financial crisis is worse than the subprime crash of 2008 because the sums are so much bigger and governments that are in dire straits.

03:54:21.000 This is all part of the plan as we laid out over a decade ago.

03:54:24.000 We have the IMF World Bank Takeover Plan.

03:54:28.000 U.S.

03:54:28.000 Here's another one.

03:54:29.000 money supply plunges at 1930s pace as Obama eyes fresh stimulus.

03:54:35.000 The money supply is being contracted, ladies and gentlemen.

03:54:39.000 That is out of the London Telegraph as well.

03:54:41.000 Here's the Financial Times.

03:54:43.000 Debt crisis is dark cloud over Europe.

03:54:47.000 Another key article, Ron Paul, inside source told me Fed is panicking at mass awakenings.

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03:54:55.000 Ron Paul on with us yesterday, you can watch both those videos at GCNLive.com, our interview with Ron Paul.

03:55:00.000 So the good news is we're identifying the enemy.

03:55:02.000 They know we're aware of what they're doing, but they're just imploding the entire economy.

03:55:06.000 What did Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former head of the Treasury, Wall Street Journal editor, father of Reaganomics, he said evil Has been turned loose.

03:55:14.000 The government is completely evil.

03:55:16.000 You got a few good people in the government, but the system is run by evil.

03:55:20.000 And look, you wake up to that or it's over.

03:55:22.000 Now, I'm not going to attack Glenn Beck and the whole media frenzy about what he sells gold for.

03:55:27.000 Because some of that stuff's collectible, and it's good to have a mix.

03:55:31.000 But non-collectible, semi-numismatic, the news reported $360 for a franc, and that was three months ago.

03:55:40.000 When, when, you know, gold was down by like a hundred bucks.

03:55:44.000 Ted has franks at a hundred and, I mean, 250 something.

03:55:49.000 It's like a hundred bucks less than what, you know, big gold companies are selling it.

03:55:51.000 Cause he bought it when it was lower.

03:55:53.000 He's selling it to you when it's higher at the low price.

03:55:56.000 So when I tell you that I get the daily sheets on this, when we do a gold offer, he's making three or four, maybe $5 different days on these Franks, on these Sovereigns, maybe $6 that are quarter ounce.

03:56:08.000 And that's at the old amount.

03:56:11.000 When he bought it when it was low, he's still selling it to you.

03:56:14.000 You cannot get better deals from my research.

03:56:16.000 Maybe they're there, you know, maybe a leprechaun's got a golden pot or something.

03:56:20.000 But Ted, I wanted to bring you up briefly with a few news headlines on the economy, and then not just the Franks.

03:56:26.000 That everybody else is selling for over $300.

03:56:28.000 You got them for $250 something, but not for long, because they are selling out gold way up today.

03:56:33.000 Tell folks about the coins, the offers, the toll-free number, because I believe in this.

03:56:38.000 I buy my gold from you, because you've got the best deals.

03:56:42.000 Now, normally, people pay a little more with you.

03:56:44.000 It's still a great deal.

03:56:45.000 These specials on this show, you got to tell them, when you call Alejandro Jones, that's me, sent you.

03:56:51.000 Ted Anderson.

03:56:52.000 Yeah, I'm with you right here, Alex.

03:56:53.000 I can tell you right now, British sovereigns, I had to stop issuing them.

03:56:57.000 I can't sell them right now because my European sources can't get them to me because the Europeans are buying them all up. 0.84

03:57:05.000 There's not enough supply right now for me to be able to say I have those.

03:57:09.000 But the francs are available, and I still have them at $256.68, and I still am buying a full year subscription to the International Forecaster if you only buy one.

03:57:18.000 I need to say it right now, I mean, gold is up.

03:57:21.000 Everything's strong.

03:57:22.000 The Europeans are buying gold.

03:57:23.000 They typically don't do it.

03:57:26.000 They're not the kind of people that buy gold. 0.98

03:57:28.000 People are screwballs! 0.97

03:57:31.000 You cannot... 0.90

03:57:33.000 250 something bucks for a fifth of an ounce gold coin that's got the numismatic, you know, some collector value, not a lot.

03:57:40.000 The point is, that's bullion or below bullion because, and Ted, you are running out.

03:57:46.000 You're out of the sovereigns.

03:57:47.000 I didn't know that.

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03:57:48.000 Don't screw around, folks.

03:57:49.000 I've been telling you seven years to buy gold back when it was $280 an ounce.

03:57:52.000 2237. Don't screw around, folks.

03:57:55.000 I've been telling you seven years to buy gold back when it was $280 an ounce.

03:57:59.000 Now it's $1,200 and something.

03:58:01.000 Don't screw around.

03:58:02.000 Is it a perfect investment?

03:58:04.000 Nothing is.

03:58:05.000 Nothing's 100% guaranteed.

03:58:07.000 It's the best thing out there from my research.

03:58:08.000 This is what I buy.

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03:58:12.000 Ted, real fast, what are some of the other coins you've got screaming deals on?

03:58:16.000 We've got eagles, we've got $10 Liberties, $20 Liberties.

03:58:18.000 We've got a whole line of different things.

03:58:20.000 Silver's at a good buy.

03:58:21.000 We've got some of these rocking Liberty halves.

03:58:23.000 Just call us at 800-686-2237.

03:58:24.000 You'll find out.

03:58:28.000 Thank you, 800-686-237.

03:58:30.000 Great job, crew.

03:58:31.000 Got Ray McGovern, everybody coming up.

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03:58:45.000 Hello, this is Alex Jones with some important questions.

03:58:48.000 If you're going into a battle and they give you a rifle and a sidearm, how much ammunition do you want?

03:58:53.000 My answer would be all I can get.

03:58:55.000 In the battle for freedom and the lives of your loved ones, food is your only ammunition.

03:59:00.000 How much do you want?

03:59:01.000 When do you want it?

03:59:03.000 Now or after the battle starts?

03:59:04.000 When will you need it?

03:59:05.000 Can you buy it without proper identification?

03:59:08.000 Will there be any food?

03:59:09.000 Will it make your children sick?

03:59:11.000 If there's a quarantine and you can't feed yourself, will you go to the gathering center and be immunized?

03:59:16.000 You wipe out all these problems if you have a good food supply.

03:59:19.000 Food is your ammunition to fight for your freedom and your life.

03:59:23.000 How much will you need?

03:59:24.000 We don't know.

03:59:25.000 How much do you want?

03:59:26.000 All you can get.

03:59:27.000 I'm Alex Jones.

03:59:28.000 I want all of you good guys to live to fight another day.

03:59:31.000 Call 1-800-409-5633.

03:59:34.000 Or check it out on the web at efoodsdirect.com.

03:59:39.000 Again, that number, 1-800-409-5633.

03:59:41.000 Coast to Coast.

03:59:46.000 Direct from Austin.

Alex Jones Show - May 31, 2010

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