Alex Jones Show - 20100827_Fri_Alex

00:00:04.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.

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00:00:49.000 Well, in the last three days, he's published a three-part series.

00:00:51.000 He's been going into publicly available databases.

00:00:55.000 We'll leave it at that, but he doesn't want them to close down the sources.

00:00:58.000 The sources, the information itself is public and verified.

00:01:02.000 It's just that where Wayne's getting this, because they've been very secretive about clamping down his college records, high school records, passport, birth certificate, all of this, Wayne doesn't want him to shut down the source of this because he's digging through it right now and finding even more and is scheduled to go down there Wayne doesn't want him to shut down the source of this because I'll just leave it at that.

00:01:22.000 But the story of Obama all in the company in three parts...

00:01:28.000 We've got it linked up at Infowars.com.

00:01:30.000 We've got the blurb written above it with some of the history of other presidents being intelligence assets.

00:01:36.000 Bombshell.

00:01:36.000 Barack Obama conclusively outed a CIA creation.

00:01:40.000 And I've seen a lot of this info open source before, but Wayne's put it all together in one spot and found a lot of new data.

00:01:47.000 And it's got to be a 25-page report, but I suggest you read it all.

00:01:52.000 But here he is to go over it with us in the next 45 minutes to 50 minutes and To give us some new intel he's gotten.

00:02:00.000 You can find it all and new developments at WayneMadsenReport.com and we have it linked up at InfoWars.com.

00:02:06.000 He's getting so much traffic it's barely staying up this morning.

00:02:09.000 It's off and on.

00:02:10.000 That's why we've got this key report.

00:02:12.000 We're thankful for him letting us mirror it at InfoWars.com.

00:02:15.000 Wayne, congratulations on your in-depth investigation.

00:02:18.000 You've been in Chicago for weeks.

00:02:20.000 You've been all over the country investigating this guy and you've gotten some powerful info.

00:02:26.000 Oh thanks, but I feel so much chagrined.

00:02:28.000 I think all this information is what should have come out during the presidential campaign, not on a sitting president of the United States.

00:02:37.000 And I really think that myself and other members of the media, you know I'm not counting the corporate media, they never I don't want to touch these stories, but we really were remiss, I think, in delving into this guy's past during the campaign, which is what we've done with every other previous presidential candidate.

00:02:56.000 And for some reason, I guess we all got hooked on the opium with Obama.

00:03:01.000 Well, Bush was so bad, I don't blame people for wanting to get hooked on the hopium, but I saw his advisors and Wall Street doubling down on him.

00:03:10.000 I knew McCain was bad, but clearly he was the establishment's heir apparent, and so that's why I saw through him.

00:03:17.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:03:18.000 And now we hear today that one of the Kagan boys has been hired on as an advisor to General Petraeus. 0.68

00:03:23.000 So, what's the difference?

00:03:25.000 You know, we had Obama speaking at the CIA headquarters, telling them, you know, how much he appreciates what they do, and don't worry about the investigations.

00:03:37.000 You know, where he should have been taking I don't see any change.

00:03:39.000 he did during the renditioning in the secret prisons.

00:03:42.000 And now we know about the latest one in Morocco where we turned people over to have them tortured by the Moroccan secret police.

00:03:50.000 So, I mean, this is the guy that keeps on giving as long as you're, you know, CIA or the Pentagon.

00:03:57.000 And I don't see any change.

00:04:00.000 As a matter of fact, in some respects, I think he's worse.

00:04:03.000 Well, Wayne, I have to agree with you.

00:04:06.000 Unfortunately, because he brought left cover to this and a fresh face, and he's a better teleprompter reader, a lot of people went to sleep over the secret arrest, the expanding wars, the torture, America really losing its soul.

00:04:18.000 And he's been protecting John Yoo and, of course, Alberto Gonzalez and Bush.

00:04:24.000 And Bush feels so safe.

00:04:25.000 Two months ago, he said, yeah, I ordered torture.

00:04:28.000 I'd do it again.

00:04:30.000 Oh, absolutely, and his Justice Department is going after Blagojevich again after all he got was a single count for lying to an FBI agent, and he wasn't even under oath.

00:04:43.000 There's no transcript.

00:04:45.000 He'd like to lay off on the Abramov deal.

00:04:47.000 I mean, this guy, I mean, he's the gift that keeps on giving for the last people in the last administration.

00:04:52.000 Well, Wayne, stay there.

00:04:53.000 We've got a long segment coming up.

00:04:55.000 Let's walk piece by piece through your bombshell report on the other side.

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00:08:05.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

00:08:10.000 We've got all three parts posted up at InfoWars.com.

00:08:14.000 We've got our preface at the top of it.

00:08:17.000 Bombshell Barack Obama conclusively outed as CIA creation.

00:08:22.000 Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen is scheduled to appear live on this broadcast.

00:08:26.000 He's here now.

00:08:28.000 Thursday, August 19th at 12 Central, will reveal his groundbreaking series on Barack Obama's true origins.

00:08:34.000 Madsen will share the bombshell revelations and extensive information from the following three articles and even more that has not been revealed.

00:08:41.000 Tell your friends, family, and contacts to tune in and learn the truth.

00:08:44.000 Also visit thewaynemadsenreport.com for further research and other exclusive reports.

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00:08:52.000 I mean, this guy formerly worked for the NSA, Naval Intelligence, He's written for some of the biggest publications in the country, Washington Post, you name it.

00:09:00.000 He's a contributor to RT.

00:09:01.000 He's a real patriot.

00:09:03.000 His info is always borne out to be very accurate.

00:09:05.000 He told me where he got this new information, and it's verified and confirmed.

00:09:10.000 It's just that there's been a... I don't want to go any further, because they keep clamping down every time they learn of a new place people are getting information.

00:09:19.000 We're going to stop right there and Wayne can say as much as he wants, but this is all public source and verified in his three articles, but you need to read all three parts.

00:09:29.000 The story of Obama all in the company.

00:09:32.000 Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3 at InfoWars.com or WadeMadsenReport.com.

00:09:38.000 And again, his site is way down, so if you can't get it there, InfoWars.com.

00:09:42.000 And get it out to everyone you know, because I have separately researched this in depth, making the Obama Deception and Fall of the Republic, and a lot of this was already public, but a lot of it is new and just completes the image.

00:09:56.000 Of what we've got.

00:09:56.000 Now before we go back to Wayne, I want to show people a few news stories that came out this week.

00:10:01.000 Here's Politico.

00:10:03.000 Don't look, birthers. 1.00

00:10:04.000 It's Obama's passport.

00:10:07.000 As if his passport means something.

00:10:10.000 Now this came out on the heels of them shredding and destroying his mother's passport, which would be stamped where he was at what time.

00:10:18.000 When he was born, the evidence shows in Kenya, but we know he gave up his citizenship and became Barry Sotaro, like Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader, he became Barry Sotaro and gave up his U.S.

00:10:31.000 citizenship.

00:10:32.000 That is confirmed.

00:10:33.000 That's mainstream news.

00:10:35.000 Okay, and they try to abscond that evidence by only focusing on Kenya.

00:10:39.000 I'm not bashing those that do, it's just this is smoking gun.

00:10:42.000 Now, here it is, oops, Obama mama, passport destroyed. 0.64

00:10:46.000 State Department claims record's gone for Stanley Ann Dunham prior to 1968, around the time that old Barack Obama was born in 1961.

00:10:58.000 Continuing, White House offers glimpse of President Obama's passport documents, shows birthplaces Hawaii.

00:11:04.000 So they're desperate.

00:11:06.000 They won't put out the original passport, just a receipt of it.

00:11:10.000 Okay, just a slip, not the real passport.

00:11:15.000 And now they're doing this at the same time they destroyed her passport.

00:11:19.000 Very, very suspicious.

00:11:22.000 So I wanted to just point out they've been involved in a cover-up.

00:11:25.000 Wayne Madsen, go over your groundbreaking report, the new stuff you've discovered, and other things you haven't put in Part 1 or Part 2 or Part 3.

00:11:33.000 You've got the floor.

00:11:34.000 Wayne Madsen, go over it.

00:11:36.000 Well, I started this investigation by looking at the company that President Obama went to work for after he graduated from Columbia, and it was Business International Corporation, and that was a company that had close ties to the CIA.

00:11:51.000 They used some of their quote-unquote journalists as CIA cover.

00:11:56.000 Uh, officers overseas.

00:11:59.000 Now, in his book, Obama says, I went to work for a company in Manhattan after I graduated from Columbia, but it was the company, the CIA.

00:12:09.000 It wasn't a company, and he was very disingenuous about talking about that.

00:12:15.000 This was a company that had access to some of the biggest, most powerful People in the world, including Soviet Premier Alexei Kosygin, Generalissimo Franco of Spain, and obviously this company did outreach to a lot of leftist leaders in places like Africa and Asia and other parts of the world, including Latin America.

00:12:40.000 And then I started looking at, of course, his mother and her time.

00:12:44.000 Uh, in Indonesia especially, but also Pakistan.

00:12:47.000 It turns out she was working not only for the Ford Foundation on micro-financing projects, and I have information that states that one of the CIA economic officers at the US Embassy in Jakarta worked on the same exact project while she was there.

00:13:03.000 Financing, micro-financing for these farmers and artisans in central Java.

00:13:10.000 Now, Ann Dunham-Sotoro takes her son at 7 years old into Indonesia following the CIA-inspired coup.

00:13:21.000 Two years later, Lorenzo Sotoro's stepfather was called back by General Suharto.

00:13:27.000 From Hawaii, where he met Obama's mother in 65, but prior to the CIA coup, and he went to work for the Suharto's army.

00:13:38.000 Now that, they killed an estimated up to one million Indonesian citizens, a lot of ethnic Chinese, and also reported members of the Indonesian Communist Party.

00:13:52.000 So this is the environment she takes seven-year-old Barack Obama.

00:13:56.000 I mean, who in their right mind would do that unless you were, you know, being assigned to work for the agency in those days?

00:14:05.000 I also looked at Barack Obama Sr.

00:14:07.000 Now, he was airlifted.

00:14:08.000 It was called Project Africa, Airlift Africa.

00:14:11.000 It was funded by a $100,000 grant from the Joseph P. Kennedy Foundation.

00:14:17.000 But that's because Tom Amboya, who was a Kenyan nationalist leader, pro-US, tied in with the CIA, decided he didn't want to take State Department money because that would look too suspicious.

00:14:27.000 So it looks like they laundered some of this money through the Joseph P. Kennedy Foundation in 1960.

00:14:33.000 Now remember, John Kennedy's running for president then, so that's building up his national security credentials, helping out the agency.

00:14:43.000 And the reason for bringing these 230 students from Kenya, Tanganyika, and other soon-to-be independent British colonies in Eastern and Southern Africa was to compete with the Soviets and Chinese who were training their own leaders in these newly independent nations.

00:15:02.000 And it was clearly to gain influence with these new governments.

00:15:06.000 Just to interrupt briefly, the bottom line historically is the British are the masters of this, but other governments have done it.

00:15:13.000 That's why you had to be American-born to be president in the Constitution, because at the time our country was being founded, They had problems with the Austrians sending their people into other European countries during the democratic revolutions that were developing to try to put their people into power there.

00:15:31.000 And so this story of intelligence agencies pre-positioning people to put them into political power so they control nations is extremely old.

00:15:40.000 And we also know that Kenya in the 40s and 50s into the 60s was the admitted declassified global model of covert Takeovers and was the main base of operations aside from South Africa and Rhodesia for control of the African continent Well, right.

00:15:59.000 And we have to remember, the same year that Barack Obama Sr.

00:16:03.000 was brought over in the CIA airlift Africa project, is the same year that the Soviet Union opened the Petrovsky Memorial University in Moscow for the whole purpose of training people from these third world nations, these newly independent countries.

00:16:20.000 petition we of course didn't have a treat for mumbo university but we started these student among various universities around the united states and barack obama senior was the first uh... african student to attend the university of why and meet obama's mother in where Okay, your phone was cutting out a bit.

00:16:42.000 He meets his mother, again, Barack Obama Sr.

00:16:45.000 meets Mama, and of course her daddy, you're gonna get into, has connections to the agency.

00:16:51.000 He meets her where?

00:16:52.000 In a Russian language class at the University of Hawaii.

00:16:56.000 Now this is the height of the Cold War, and the only people who would be taking Russian in a place like Hawaii, which was like a military, I mean the military was all over Hawaii, the Navy, the Army, the Air Force, would be obviously people who were involved in some way, shape, or form with intelligence, or were being recruited into intelligence.

00:17:19.000 Now, Stanley Armordunham, the grandfather, there's a photo of him welcoming Barack Obama Sr.

00:17:28.000 to the airport in Hawaii.

00:17:30.000 Now, we were told that they met for the first time at the Russian language class.

00:17:34.000 It's clear now.

00:17:35.000 This furniture salesman, we were told, Stanley Armordunham's grandfather was in the furniture business.

00:17:42.000 It seems like he was in much, much more than just selling furniture.

00:17:48.000 Incredible and then of course you have her then being projected into the big foundation under Tim Geithner's father.

00:17:54.000 I mean just on every side you've got all these connections in the report and then he's got a fake name, he's changing his name, we don't know where he's born, he comes from nowhere to become president.

00:18:06.000 I mean it just, I mean the evidence is overwhelming.

00:18:09.000 Well, then we have a curious case of his grandmother, Madeline Dunham, who died right two days before Obama was elected president in 2008.

00:18:21.000 The Obama campaign apparently didn't want her giving any interviews to the press.

00:18:26.000 Maybe they were afraid she'd be like Newt Gingrich's mother with the Katie Couric interview and slip up and say something that would have embarrassed them.

00:18:33.000 But she was one of the first female vice presidents at the Bank of Hawaii.

00:18:37.000 And now, lo and behold, we find out that that bank was used by the CIA fund company in Honolulu to make payments to these dictators in Asia like Suharto and Marcos in the Philippines and Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek in Taiwan and the Park Chung-hee in South Korea we find out that that bank was used by the CIA fund company in Honolulu to make payments to these dictators in Asia like Suharto and Marcos in the Philippines and Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek in Taiwan

00:19:04.000 So this was the CIA payoff network to these U.S.-sponsored dictators in Asia.

00:19:12.000 We're going to go to Brighton, come back, and keep going through your article that really puts all the pieces together that clearly this guy's an intelligence operative.

00:19:19.000 We'll look at once he's in college, how he's sent to Pakistan, clearly in all sorts of secret ops.

00:19:27.000 I mean, this is extremely clear.

00:19:29.000 But also, if you really study deep intelligence, it's normally a family affair because then the whole family's connected.

00:19:36.000 There's the peer pressure of the family.

00:19:39.000 You can never leave.

00:19:40.000 And so we see that pattern throughout history at the highest levels of intelligence.

00:19:44.000 We'll continue to look at Barry Sitaro, aka Barack Obama, the president, on the other side of this quick break with Wayne Madsen.

00:19:52.000 You've got to read the report.

00:19:53.000 Look at the photos.

00:19:54.000 It is extremely damning.

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00:23:58.000 Okay, we're talking to Wayne Madsen, who is a top security expert at the National Security Agency, Naval Intelligence, Whenever you watch C-SPAN and you're seeing an Intelligence Committee hearing, you'll see him in the gallery as a press reporter.

00:24:17.000 He's written for literally scores of top newspapers and publications here in the country.

00:24:23.000 So a very top-level source and investigative journalist.

00:24:28.000 WayneMadsenReport.com has it all.

00:24:31.000 Bottom line, before we go through more of the history, more of the evidence of this, what type of asset is Obama?

00:24:38.000 What was their plan?

00:24:40.000 Because he was nested at the highest level, both sides of his family, at the biggest foundations that themselves created the CIA.

00:24:48.000 The way I read this in my past research, it appears that from very early, he was put into the highest level schools being developed for where he is now.

00:25:01.000 Anyone who remembers the movie The Manchurian Candidate, that's exactly what they were trying to do in that movie, setting somebody up.

00:25:10.000 But in this case, it looks like it was the CIA that had their own Manchurian Candidate and groomed this individual for higher office, and he eventually got it.

00:25:22.000 Now, one of the things that I found was Some CIA files from the 1970s referring to behavioral science work being done by the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:25:38.000 And one of the universities, and this comes from Richard Helms, the director himself, one of the favorite universities for behavioral science work.

00:25:46.000 And let's face it, that was out of the Office of Science and Technology.

00:25:50.000 That's MKUltra.

00:25:52.000 Dr. Sidney Gottlieb's operation.

00:25:53.000 One of the favorite universities for this research was the University of Hawaii, where Barack Sr.

00:26:01.000 met Anne Stanley Dunham.

00:26:03.000 So you're saying he's trained in mind control, or he's under mind control?

00:26:08.000 Oh, I don't know, but we know what MKUltra was.

00:26:14.000 It was extreme behavioral modification.

00:26:17.000 Yeah, the LA Times reported the Unabomber, Theodore Kaczynski, was in that program.

00:26:21.000 Well, some of the other universities mentioned in this were Yale, MIT, University of Michigan, and UCLA, and the University of Hawaii is think of that as the fifth favorite university for this work by Richard Helms.

00:26:35.000 Now, this work was done through the Advanced Research project agency uh which uh was working uh the guy uh lieutenant colonel kibler with u.s army was working on uh things like remote viewing you know that you saw the movie men who stare at goats that was what that was all about so it was a multi-faceted project that had but it was all into this weird bizarro stuff well for me what you know the cherry on top and we haven't covered a ten ten percent of the evidence in your article

00:27:04.000 is that the way they hide all his records the way he goes right into college but is never there he He's all over the world.

00:27:11.000 He's in hot zones.

00:27:12.000 It looks like they were training him in all sorts of, you know, in the field training from a very early age.

00:27:20.000 Well, the CIA front company in Honolulu actually came up with a false corporate history, said that they had been doing business in Hawaii since it was a territory.

00:27:31.000 Everything was fake with that particular company.

00:27:34.000 When the company went bust and accused of being a Ponzi scheme, where have we heard that recently?

00:27:39.000 Certainly we have with Stanford.

00:27:41.000 We heard it with Enron.

00:27:43.000 And here we had another one, NBCCI.

00:27:46.000 So here we have an early example of the CIA setting up this financial firm to make these payoffs out of Honolulu.

00:27:54.000 And when it goes bust, the innocent investors are all being brought in.

00:27:58.000 And Grandma's running it? 1.00

00:28:00.000 Well, she's working at the Bank of Hawaii, which is laundering the money. 1.00

00:28:04.000 She's running the escrow account.

00:28:06.000 At the Bank of Hawaii, which is where the agency is placing the funds to transfer to their boys over in Asia, these dictators and these favored politicians.

00:28:20.000 I would also note that AIG, which he bailed out, which was started by Ken Starrs, Great uncle in Shanghai was also at CIA front doing the same thing in Asia.

00:28:34.000 From China to Japan to Korea and everywhere else.

00:28:36.000 Well look what Top Secret USA confirms what you'd already reported on for years.

00:28:41.000 Close to a million secret private spies in the US alone with the highest security level.

00:28:47.000 That's one out of 300 Americans.

00:28:49.000 Absolutely.

00:28:50.000 So, you know, we look at all this, and it's fascinating.

00:28:54.000 I also found a very rare copy of a book that was written in 1968, and actually favorably reviewed in an article in the Boston Globe in 1969.

00:29:06.000 And it lists 3,000 CIA agents around the world, lists the stations, and some of the most active were Jakarta and Lahore, Pakistan, and Karachi.

00:29:20.000 And the book lists a bunch of Obama's family's bosses.

00:29:25.000 Stay there, stay there.

00:29:26.000 I want to go over all of it when we come back and what it means.

00:29:28.000 We're on the march.

00:29:29.000 microfinancing work out of the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta at the time.

00:29:32.000 So we have a lot of connections.

00:29:35.000 I also noticed that one person who I know is listed in the book, Peter Ernest, who runs now the International Spy Museum here in Washington.

00:29:44.000 Stay there.

00:29:45.000 Stay there.

00:29:45.000 I want to go over all of it when we come back and what it means.

00:29:48.000 We're on the march.

00:29:51.000 The empire's on the run.

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00:32:58.000 Failure to communicate. - Hey.

00:33:07.000 Some men you just can't reach.

00:33:10.000 So you forget what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it.

00:33:16.000 Well, he gets it.

00:33:17.000 I don't like it any more than he did.

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00:33:34.000 Okay, Wayne Madsen in layman's terms.

00:33:38.000 Recap this evidence.

00:33:39.000 Go over other areas.

00:33:42.000 Some of the new things you've discovered.

00:33:44.000 You've been getting into archives.

00:33:45.000 I'll just leave it at that.

00:33:47.000 A lot of things are newly declassified on a routine basis.

00:33:50.000 They do everything they can to cover up his history.

00:33:52.000 Now they shred his mother's passport that would be stamped for where she really was when he was born.

00:33:59.000 And then release his passport.

00:34:01.000 Uh, which he's already had a passport before, even if he got it through fraud, that's easy to do.

00:34:07.000 This proves nothing, but it's their attempt to say, look, we're not going to give you the original, you know, with his feet stamped on it and the doctor's signature, uh, you know, of his real birth certificate.

00:34:17.000 We're going to give you his passport to supposedly shut up the birthers. 1.00

00:34:23.000 And you've got this entire history of being groomed.

00:34:26.000 The entire family on every side, deep inside the big foundations, working for Geithner's dad, the Rockefellers, Annenberg, all of them, all the top globalists, and then you've got even more in this three-part series.

00:34:40.000 Well, you know, we go back to January, February of 2008 and the big U.S.

00:34:46.000 State Department passport scandal where some contractors working for a company called the Analysis Corporation were caught looking into Obama's passport files.

00:34:59.000 Now, that company at the time was headed by Don Brennan, who used to be with the CIA and came up with a lot of this rendition program under Bush, and now he's the Deputy National Security Advisor.

00:35:10.000 How convenient.

00:35:12.000 So, you know, they said, oh, well, Hillary and McCain's passports records were being looked at.

00:35:17.000 I think that was a diversion.

00:35:19.000 That was, you know, make it look like they were going at it.

00:35:23.000 The fact is, they were going in to see exactly what Obama had, if anything, with a smoking gun, as far as his passport files.

00:35:33.000 And I was getting ready to say, before the break, that one of the names in this book of 3,000 active agents during the late 50s and 60s is Peter Ernest, who's now the director of the International Spy Museum.

00:35:45.000 And remember, Obama took his two daughters to visit the spy museum.

00:35:49.000 Everyone said, no, isn't that a little odd?

00:35:52.000 Why would he take them there?

00:35:53.000 Well, maybe it was all home week for him.

00:35:55.000 So what does this mean to the American people, Wayne, to have someone who clearly was manufactured and put into power?

00:36:06.000 I mean, obviously they can blackmail him, but that's not even needed.

00:36:09.000 He's just completely controlled.

00:36:11.000 Well, I think that's the problem.

00:36:15.000 Presidents and Vice Presidents, Senators or Members of the House do not require security clearances.

00:36:21.000 In fact, they're elected.

00:36:23.000 Their staffs require the clearances, but they do not.

00:36:26.000 But that job falls to the press to vet these people and the media.

00:36:30.000 It failed miserably during that campaign.

00:36:34.000 On what I reported out of Chicago with his private life and now with this, his background with the agency, this was all available back in 2008.

00:36:46.000 And no one, you know, pursued it because everybody was listening to this brilliant orator.

00:36:53.000 And, you know, beware these brilliant orators.

00:36:56.000 History is replete with them.

00:36:57.000 And it turned out to be nothing more than demagogues when they've gotten into office.

00:37:03.000 We know many cases of it throughout recent and even ancient history where that's happened.

00:37:11.000 Continuing, there's a lot of other areas of your detailed three-part series that we haven't covered yet.

00:37:18.000 Kind of recap it, get into some other areas and connections we didn't go over.

00:37:21.000 And then, when we talked last night, you said you're still doing more research.

00:37:24.000 There's even more, that there's mountains of this, and just every place you turn, CIA, CIA, CIA, CIA.

00:37:33.000 Well, let's look at his father, Barak Sr., who was brought over in his Air Lift Africa project.

00:37:40.000 Now, his mentor in Kenya, who was assassinated in 1969, Tom Mboya, basically selected Barak Sr.

00:37:49.000 and others over more qualified candidates.

00:37:52.000 And I've got a not very obscure Reuters piece from London in 1960, where one of the opposition leaders in Kenya says, wait a minute, Some of the people who were passed over had better academic qualifications, better certificates than the people who were selected.

00:38:08.000 Well, it's obvious why they were selected.

00:38:10.000 They were selected, and in the case of Obama Sr., he's married with a kid and went on away already in Kenya when he arrived in Hawaii, and he marries Obama's mother, who's just graduated from From a high school.

00:38:25.000 It's very clear that this was some sort of a CIA operation to get those two together.

00:38:32.000 You know, you gotta wonder what kind of parent would put their own child up for auction because the agency finds it important to do.

00:38:44.000 But Ann Boyer is interesting because he basically was spying for the CIA at all these Pan-African meetings and basically he was trying to limit the influence of some of the leftist African leaders who were thought to be in the pocket of the Soviet Union and Communist China at the time, and particularly Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana, who was also overthrown in 1966 in a CIA coup.

00:39:09.000 So just one year after Sukarno was overthrown in Indonesia with the help of Lolo Satoro, Barack's stepfather and whatever work his mother was doing for USAID and other entities in Indonesia.

00:39:24.000 Now, we talked last night, and I said, it seems to me that they knew that they would build him up as this Messianic leader. - Sure.

00:39:36.000 And then they study societal movements, individual psychology, mass psychology.

00:39:43.000 The architects know that he would then not deliver the milk and honey and the restored economy and the end of torture, the end of wars with his advisors and who put him in power.

00:39:54.000 They were always planning to not deliver any of his promises and then politically destroy him.

00:40:03.000 And you concurred with me, so I want you to expand on your view.

00:40:08.000 What was their plan for Barry Sitaro, a.k.a.

00:40:11.000 Barack Obama?

00:40:12.000 And what does their master plan encompass for the nation and for their front puppet? 0.95

00:40:21.000 More balkanization, more division, selling Africa on AFRICOM or AFRICON being set up.

00:40:31.000 I mean, what's the overall program with Plan Obama?

00:40:35.000 Well, you know the CIA regularly uses people who are called futurists.

00:40:40.000 Now, this isn't the weird kind of thing where people look at them.

00:40:43.000 These are subject area experts who try to look to see where technology, where politics, where population, where demographics will be 20, 30 years into the future.

00:40:55.000 And they seek to steer it.

00:40:56.000 They seek to already know what people are going to want to do, where culture is going to bring them, so they can be pre-positioned to dominate those systems.

00:41:04.000 That's what Google is.

00:41:05.000 Well, if we go back in time to 1960, we're looking at the CIA looking at the demographic changes of the United States.

00:41:12.000 Increasing African-American population.

00:41:14.000 I don't think they really banked on the increase of the Hispanic population.

00:41:20.000 Obviously, that came later, but... Well, wait a minute, it's come out that the Ford Foundation, billions, Bill and Melinda Gates, tens of millions, Tumatcha and La Raza, Ford Foundation going back 60 years, creating those groups.

00:41:32.000 Right.

00:41:33.000 Well, I think the one thing, because of the Civil Rights Movement, they were looking at... Look, Martin Luther King was the leader of the African-American group, movement, the people, in this country.

00:41:46.000 He broke with Johnson in 67, over Vietnam.

00:41:50.000 Steered very hard to the left.

00:41:52.000 And the CIA, I'm sure, said, God, we can't... If we're going to get a leader, we can't have a Malcolm X. We can't have a Martin Luther King Jr.

00:41:59.000 We have to make sure that when we have one, In line to become president, somebody that we can basically control.

00:42:07.000 Let me back you up.

00:42:08.000 Margaret Singer in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, on record in public letters with the Rockefeller Foundation saying, we've got to pose as liberals, get the black leaders in place so we can abort most of them, and they've been successful. 0.99

00:42:23.000 51% of blacks never make it out of utero. 1.00

00:42:25.000 They're murdered in the womb. 0.98

00:42:26.000 So they did that. 0.99

00:42:28.000 And they talk about controlling black leaders by financing them. 0.95

00:42:33.000 So we know that that's their strategic plan.

00:42:35.000 And Martin Luther King got off the reservation, so they took him out.

00:42:39.000 Well, absolutely.

00:42:41.000 And so you look back in 1960, and is it beyond the pale to consider the fact that they may have wanted to groom somebody from a very early age, like a baby?

00:42:55.000 You know, you've got his parents and his grandparents basically in their pocket, and then you've got this stuff about behavioral science work at the University of Hawaii.

00:43:06.000 There's just so many gaps.

00:43:08.000 In the histories of not only the president, but also his mother, his father, his grandfather, and his grandmother on his mother's side.

00:43:20.000 So when you see gaps like that, now you look at any other president, I think that's the key that you just hit on.

00:43:29.000 You have all this effort to cover up the past.

00:43:32.000 we have these significant gaps in their histories, and I think that's something that people should be concerned about.

00:43:38.000 Wayne, I think that's the key that you just hit on.

00:43:41.000 You have all this effort to cover up the past.

00:43:44.000 You've got CIA connections to your left, your right, forward and backwards at every level.

00:43:46.000 to your left, your right, forward and backwards at every level.

00:43:49.000 You have got the fact that they've spent so much time, not just in the present, but going back decades covering up his true providence and where he comes from.

00:43:49.000 You have got the fact that they've spent so much time not just in the present, but going back decades covering up his true providence and where he comes from.

00:44:01.000 And then, as you said, all these intelligence and corporate intelligence and foundation connections.

00:44:08.000 And now he's the president.

00:44:09.000 And we know they have these programs to go in, not just here, but all over the world and recruit leaders.

00:44:15.000 I mean, the British recruited Hitler, that's declassified, in the mid-20s and took him from nowhere and funded the National Socialists to make him their leader. 0.55

00:44:25.000 And the Milner Group bragged, we're going to build this guy up and he's going to tear Europe up.

00:44:29.000 And then we're going to be able to come in and rebuild it and take it over.

00:44:32.000 I mean, this is their long-term strategic thinking.

00:44:35.000 And when you look at Obama and everything he's done, it's clear.

00:44:39.000 This guy is a total betrayer of everything he claims to be.

00:44:44.000 Remember last November when old man Bush, HW41, and Jeff Bush paid what was called a courtesy call to the White House?

00:44:53.000 We were not even told what that was about.

00:44:56.000 A courtesy call.

00:44:57.000 That's all we were told.

00:44:58.000 Well, you know, you've got the guy who the CIA headquarters is named after and his son visiting Obama.

00:45:06.000 And it's just thought we were in town.

00:45:08.000 We thought we'd stop by.

00:45:09.000 Look, that doesn't happen at the White House.

00:45:11.000 I mean, those Salahis decide you don't get into the White House unless you have a reason to be there. 1.00

00:45:17.000 So, I mean, obviously you're saying their plan was to have a controlled asset who was supposedly African-American in there.

00:45:27.000 But how is their plan going?

00:45:27.000 That's clear.

00:45:31.000 I mean, did they mean for him to be a messianic leader and be successful?

00:45:34.000 And has their attempted launch of this African-American Napoleon failed? 0.95

00:45:42.000 Or did they plan to just use him as a distraction and then destroy him?

00:45:47.000 Well, I think he's given them everything they want.

00:45:49.000 Look, Operation Iraqi Freedom is now Operation New Dawn.

00:45:53.000 I mean, right out of George Orwell's newspeak lexicon, we're showing pictures of convoys leaving Iraq.

00:46:00.000 50,000 troops are going to stay and we're going to see an increase in contractors.

00:46:03.000 By the way, I have the New York Times today on that.

00:46:03.000 What's that all about?

00:46:06.000 They say, oh, private contractors and intelligence operatives will now run the government.

00:46:12.000 So this is a Practice runs for the US and other countries where they don't just stage coups, they come in and put in their entire apparatus through these giant armored embassies and control everything and just have plainclothes death squads running the nation.

00:46:27.000 Well, that's right.

00:46:28.000 And look what Obama, right after he comes in, you know, he allows the CIA to overthrow President Julian Honduras.

00:46:35.000 He wants to build seven military bases in Colombia, and the Constitutional Court of Colombia just shot that down.

00:46:40.000 So, you know what Obama wants to do with now being shot down by the court in Colombia?

00:46:45.000 I mean, this guy is on lock, stock, and barrel by these intelligentsia, you know, the intelligence community, because he's not said no to them Ever.

00:46:56.000 I mean, Patriot Act, still in effect.

00:46:58.000 We have an increase in electronic surveillance.

00:47:02.000 We got these people, the CIA and Google, and NSA and Google, and Microsoft and everything else.

00:47:10.000 So he's allowing, he ran on openness.

00:47:14.000 The Freedom of Information Act is still not being implemented.

00:47:18.000 It's still backlogged.

00:47:19.000 Requests are not being honored.

00:47:22.000 So, I mean, everything he ran on, he has lied on very fundamental constitutional issues.

00:47:28.000 And we were told that he taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School.

00:47:32.000 I don't know which law he was teaching, because when you look at his actions, it looks like he's teaching the Constitution of North Korea, not of the United States of America.

00:47:42.000 You know, I'd laugh, but it isn't funny.

00:47:43.000 This is really happening.

00:47:44.000 I mean, this is really the private offshore corporate takeover of society.

00:47:49.000 They're setting up their fusion centers run by the CIA in every major city. 0.83

00:47:54.000 They're federalizing the police.

00:47:55.000 They're training U.S.

00:47:56.000 SWAT teams in Iraq.

00:47:58.000 for cordon, for shutting down cities, for gun confiscations.

00:48:01.000 At the G20 in Pittsburgh, my employee got arrested, Rob Dew.

00:48:06.000 He saw people being let off trucks with bags on their heads.

00:48:10.000 The Army would then, when they had to go to the bathroom, follow them and then make fun of them.

00:48:16.000 And this was all encouraged, like something right out of 1984.

00:48:21.000 And they had private snatch and grab teams in front of news cameras on purpose, grabbing activists, putting bags on their heads.

00:48:28.000 Now what happened in Toronto, same thing in England.

00:48:31.000 They are globally deploying a scientifically developed corporate oppression, a corporate black op tyranny. 1.00

00:48:40.000 And I mean clearly this is the complete shadow takeover and now it's out in the open.

00:48:46.000 I mean this is so illegal, Wayne.

00:48:48.000 Well, let me say another thing about Obama.

00:48:50.000 You know, he has had scheduled two trips to visit Indonesia.

00:48:54.000 Both trips have been postponed.

00:48:56.000 You know, I think he knows that when he arrives in Jakarta, the Indonesian press, some foreign press, will start looking at his time there.

00:49:07.000 And I don't think they want that kind of attention on that.

00:49:10.000 And I think that's one reason.

00:49:12.000 Now, he's always said he's had other priorities.

00:49:14.000 I think the oil spill was one reason.

00:49:16.000 No, that's another issue, Wayne.

00:49:17.000 You keep bringing up great points.

00:49:19.000 It's admitted he was in Indonesia longer than he said.

00:49:22.000 Then he lied about being in the Muslim school.

00:49:24.000 It's fine if he's a Muslim, but why lie about it?

00:49:26.000 I mean, everything he's ever told us is a lie.

00:49:29.000 You went over that earlier.

00:49:30.000 I mean, when the parents met, when the grandparents met, when all this happened, we learned it's all a fiction.

00:49:37.000 Well, and the other thing I discovered is when they were, uh, before they went to Hawaii, they were in Mercer Island, Seattle, in the state of Washington, and, and, uh, I did find, uh, in a list of these, uh, agents, the CIA people, uh, the name of the, uh, chief engineer for, uh, Boeing, and he was, his area of primary assignment Was Mercer Island.

00:49:59.000 Now, Madeline Dunham worked for the Boeing Corporation during World War II, in which you're talking. 1.00

00:50:05.000 So, he's the only guy listed with the agency in Mercer Island.

00:50:09.000 You know, we've got to figure the time frame here.

00:50:12.000 You know, you could, conspiracy or coincidence, but I think that's much more than a coincidence.

00:50:19.000 But we know his father's involved in all these secretive activities.

00:50:24.000 Now Obama's involved with Odinga, having the Muslims riot to create the prime ministership for him. 0.88

00:50:30.000 I mean, just everything Obama does is dastardly. 0.97

00:50:35.000 Everything he does is skullduggery, laced. 0.83

00:50:39.000 And it's just at every turn.

00:50:41.000 And then there's the secrecy.

00:50:43.000 And so I think you've conclusively proven that the media has been involved in a cover-up of this guy's true history.

00:50:49.000 And everything we know about Barry Sitaro is a complete stinking lie.

00:50:53.000 Final segment straight ahead with Wayne Madsen. 0.85

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00:54:18.000 All those thrifted days are past me now.

00:54:22.000 I've got so much more to be found.

00:54:24.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we haven't done one since Monday.

00:54:29.000 You want me to do it again?

00:54:30.000 I appreciate the work you've done.

00:54:33.000 I want people to read Wayne Madsen's report.

00:54:36.000 And I want them to read the breakdown that we've done on top of it.

00:54:41.000 So I want you to search this key term and make it the number one search term today.

00:54:48.000 And I'm going to launch another one next hour.

00:54:50.000 We'll hit them with two torpedoes. 0.99

00:54:52.000 But the article isn't ready at PrisonPlanet.com separately on what Google's doing trying to take over the web with Verizon.

00:54:58.000 So that'll be launched at 30 afterwards, Joel Skousen, next hour.

00:55:02.000 But I want you to search the term Bombshell Barack.

00:55:06.000 Bombshell Barack. 0.86

00:55:09.000 Bombshell Barack.

00:55:11.000 And then that will lead them to WayneMadisonReport.com.

00:55:15.000 Search the term Bombshell Barack right now, and that will lead them to this investigation.

00:55:22.000 We'll post these videos later at YouTube.

00:55:24.000 We'll link those in.

00:55:27.000 Drudge Report routinely then links to this, and we can push this mega-viral thanks to you taking action.

00:55:33.000 We'll expose this CIA-created asset.

00:55:36.000 Bombshell Barack is the search term.

00:55:39.000 Bombshell.

00:55:41.000 One word.

00:55:42.000 B-O-M-B-S-H-E-L-L Barack.

00:55:46.000 Please take action.

00:55:47.000 We're 10 for 10.

00:55:48.000 We've done this 10 times.

00:55:49.000 You have never failed in the info war.

00:55:52.000 Bombshell Barack.

00:55:54.000 And we're going to launch another torpedo in T-minus 35 minutes.

00:55:58.000 Closing comments, Wayne Madsen.

00:56:00.000 I hope people will support your investigative journalism by subscribing.

00:56:03.000 You give most of what you do away for free, but it's important that people support you as an investigative journalist.

00:56:08.000 How do they subscribe?

00:56:09.000 To waynemadsenreport.com.

00:56:11.000 Well, you just go to Wayne Mattson Report, M-A-D-S-E-N Report, all one word, dot com, and you'll see a thing that says join now.

00:56:20.000 Click on that and it'll step you through the process.

00:56:26.000 Well, you know, it is time-consuming to go through, locate, and then go through these extensive files because we're talking about kind of ancient history.

00:56:36.000 You know, the CIA, 1960, '61, up through the '70s, and there's a lot that you just have to piece it together.

00:56:45.000 It's a very time-consuming process.

00:56:49.000 We've got about a minute and a half left in this hour.

00:56:51.000 delve into this background because, as I said, this should have been done in 08.

00:56:56.000 It wasn't done.

00:56:57.000 But I guess the old saying, better late than never, applies here, too.

00:57:04.000 Well, you certainly deserve respect and support, Wayne.

00:57:09.000 We've got about a minute and a half left in this hour.

00:57:11.000 Any other key tidbits or points you wanted to make?

00:57:14.000 Well, I noticed that in his mother's passport record, there was a name that had been crossed out, Solharko, which is, again, another name we have in addition to Sotoro.

00:57:26.000 I guess the question is, who is Soharko?

00:57:30.000 Who was he?

00:57:32.000 Was that another name assigned to President Obama when he was in Indonesia?

00:57:38.000 How do you spell Soharko?

00:57:41.000 S-O-E-H-A-R-K-O. 1.00

00:57:46.000 Very suspicious.

00:57:47.000 Anything else?

00:57:49.000 Well, I would just urge people to, you know, while we have the internet, you know it's under tremendous assault by the guys like Cass Funstein and his friends.

00:58:02.000 Search all this information out, save it, because it may become useful later on before it disappears entirely.

00:58:10.000 I agree.

00:58:10.000 They're clearly telegraphing.

00:58:12.000 They're planning to launch false flag attacks on the web, blame it on China or Russia, and use it as a way to start controlling it.

00:58:18.000 Absolutely.

00:58:19.000 WayneMadsenReport.com.

00:58:21.000 Wayne Madsen, thank you for spending an hour with us.

00:58:23.000 Look forward to speaking to you in the near future.

00:58:25.000 We'll continue to watch your reports on your great website.

00:58:28.000 Okay, thank you.

00:58:29.000 You bet.

00:58:29.000 There goes Wayne Madsen.

00:58:30.000 Joel Skousen is coming up on the other side in the third hour as we continue to investigate Top Secret USA, the private spy takeover of America.

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00:59:53.000 Waging war on corruption.

00:59:55.000 Alex Jones on the GCM Radio Network.

01:00:02.000 We've got it.

01:00:03.000 This transmission is coming to you.

01:00:09.000 Waging war on corruption.

01:00:14.000 It's Alex Jones coming to you live from the front lines of the Infowar.

01:00:22.000 We're live, ladies and gentlemen.

01:00:23.000 It is Friday, the 23rd day of July 2010.

01:00:26.000 For the next 30 minutes, we have an exclusive interview with Governor Jesse Ventura.

01:00:31.000 Of course, with his hit TV show now going into its second season, they're producing Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura.

01:00:38.000 He has had trouble all over the country.

01:00:41.000 Most of this we can't talk about because it's the TV show, but now the harassment, the Homeland Security surveillance has gotten so bad that the governor wants to talk about this pattern here today and we're very honored that he contacted us yesterday to give us this exclusive.

01:00:55.000 I'm also playing my own part in the show as a consultant.

01:00:59.000 But the headline at Infowars.com by Curt Nemo, exclusive Jesse Ventura talks with Alex Jones about government harassment of his TV show.

01:01:06.000 And it is really intensifying.

01:01:08.000 Governor, thank you for joining us.

01:01:09.000 Hi, Alex.

01:01:10.000 Great to be here.

01:01:11.000 And again, I come on the air with you, Alex, just to inform the public out there of exactly what's going on with our U.S.

01:01:17.000 government, it seems.

01:01:18.000 Well, we appreciate you coming here first, sir.

01:01:21.000 Well, you know, ABC or NBC or none of them are going to hear what I'm going to talk about.

01:01:26.000 You can bet on that.

01:01:27.000 And I know that this is a place where freedom speaks.

01:01:31.000 Have you had a chance to see the ABC News story that tries to make a joke about the harassment?

01:01:35.000 It says Jesse Ventura brings his conspiracy theories to the Capitol.

01:01:39.000 No, I didn't look at it, but you know what they always say in the entertainment world, any publicity is good.

01:01:45.000 Absolutely, as long as they get your name right.

01:01:47.000 Governor, break down the latest or the history of this, wherever you'd like to start.

01:01:56.000 It's the second season, so they told me that I could do an episode on the murder of John F. Kennedy, which to me is the corner post.

01:02:02.000 That's the pillar of everything, the downfall, in my opinion, of our country in the last 50 years, was because if you can murder the President and get away with it, what can't you get away with?

01:02:14.000 And what we did, we wanted to take a finishing shot, very humble, of simply me standing in front of the eternal flame at Arlington National Cemetery.

01:02:26.000 No talking, no anything.

01:02:28.000 And bear in mind, Kevin Costner did it in JFK.

01:02:33.000 They filmed him there.

01:02:35.000 Well, we went to this character, this Ken Hawes, who's the U.S.

01:02:39.000 Army Chief of Public Affairs, and he denied it and wouldn't let me do it.

01:02:45.000 We did it anyway, though, Alex.

01:02:47.000 We got the shot.

01:02:48.000 In fact, the security people there were very helpful, and they even moved people out of the way.

01:02:53.000 So obviously, it didn't filter to the guy on the ground.

01:02:59.000 it the correct way.

01:03:00.000 But I went to my congresswoman, Michelle Bachman, immediately, and I said, what is this?

01:03:05.000 And she got outraged.

01:03:06.000 She said, you have First Amendment rights.

01:03:08.000 She contacted, let me read what happened real quickly here.

01:03:12.000 On July 22, 2010, we called back and asked to speak with Mr. Haas.

01:03:16.000 We were told that Mr. Haas was in Chicago filming blah, blah, blah.

01:03:20.000 Nevertheless, the gentleman we spoke with said that he had discussed the matter with Mr. Haas and said they considered the topic of your particular episode inappropriate.

01:03:31.000 After receiving Mr. Haas' cell phone number, we called him in Chicago to find out why you were not allowed to film at Arlington National Cemetery.

01:03:39.000 According to Mr. Haas, Arlington National Cemetery has a policy of prohibiting stand-up filming.

01:03:45.000 Additionally, Mr. Haas stated that you were denied in part because of the nature of your television program.

01:03:52.000 Specifically, he stated the topic of your particular episode, which alleges that the United States government was directly involved in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy is contrary to the mission of the United States Army.

01:04:06.000 Now, first of all, we don't say that in the episode.

01:04:10.000 The episode isn't even finished.

01:04:12.000 How would this guy know it, Alex?

01:04:14.000 How would he know it all?

01:04:15.000 What position we were taking on this?

01:04:17.000 We were merely investigating it.

01:04:19.000 Governor, this is incredible.

01:04:29.000 You have the Army trying to set the precedent at a national park of who can film and can't and saying no one's allowed to when the news media is down there every week.

01:04:39.000 I see it constantly.

01:04:41.000 This is so dangerous.

01:04:42.000 Stay there.

01:04:43.000 We're going to come back from a quick break.

01:04:46.000 Listen up friends, this is Alex Jones with key information.

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01:04:52.000 We can't film at national parks unless we agree with your message.

01:04:56.000 Since when is the army running this country internally?

01:04:59.000 Listen up, friends.

01:05:01.000 This is Alex Jones with key information.

01:05:02.000 The mainstream media is now admitting that we're going into a depression.

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01:06:00.000 The question is, where should the American people draw their line in the sand?

01:06:05.000 What have we got?

01:06:06.000 A republic or a monarchy?

01:06:08.000 A republic.

01:06:09.000 It's based on a constitution which protects minority rights.

01:06:12.000 Not democracy, not mob rule.

01:06:14.000 Two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

01:06:16.000 So they think they own our land?

01:06:18.000 They think they own our water?

01:06:19.000 Children?

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01:06:22.000 We have to define who we are and what we will tolerate.

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01:07:56.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:08:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:08:13.000 Again, it's Friday, July 23, 2010.

01:08:16.000 Governor Jesse Ventura joins us live from California.

01:08:19.000 The last few days he was in D.C., part of a pattern of the government trying to block his First Amendment rights and selectively doing this for people's political or abuse, period, just on the country.

01:08:30.000 Governor, for those who just joined us, recap what's happened, get more into what Congresswoman Bachman is saying and the Army trying to block you from a national park.

01:08:40.000 Well, what happened?

01:08:41.000 We're doing a show on the murder of John F. Kennedy, and apparently the Army doesn't like it, and they're in charge of Arlington National Cemetery, and the gentleman's name is Ken Hawes, spelled H-A-W-E-S.

01:08:55.000 For those listeners out there that are as outraged as I am, I'll give you his phone number.

01:09:00.000 310-235-7621.

01:09:01.000 310-235-7621 Again, 310-235-7621 And I went to my congresswoman, Michelle Bachman When they refused to let me film They were going through proper channels And I'll read again After receiving Mr. Hawes' cell phone number We called him in Chicago to find out Why you were not allowed to film at Arlington National Cemetery

01:09:26.000 According to Mr. Hawes Arlington National Cemetery has a policy of prohibiting stand-up filming That's not true because Kevin Costner got filmed there for the movie JFK with Oliver Stone You see it in the film.

01:09:40.000 Additionally, Mr. Hawes stated that you were denied in part because of the nature of your television program.

01:09:47.000 Specifically, he stated, the topic of your particular episode, which alleges that the United States government was directly involved in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, is contrary to the mission of the United States Army.

01:10:06.000 So now the army bureaucrats are deciding what Americans can do inside the country.

01:10:11.000 Apparently, they have control over what you can film.

01:10:15.000 I was a governor, a mayor, I'm a U.S.

01:10:19.000 Navy Vietnam veteran.

01:10:21.000 John Kennedy was a Navy man.

01:10:24.000 I'll bet you if President Kennedy could speak out on this, he would be more than happy to let me film at his eternal flame.

01:10:30.000 Well, the issue is I've seen the news many times filmed there, and as you mentioned, it's in many films and documentaries, and the film JFK, which is saying it was a government operation.

01:10:40.000 So they're clearly discriminating against you, and it just shows this atmosphere of government control, where the government's involved in productions of movies, where the army will try to block people even, you know, interviewing people in the military.

01:10:53.000 And you know what the bottom line is, Alex?

01:10:57.000 These people are supposed to work for us.

01:11:00.000 We pay their salaries.

01:11:02.000 It's called paying your taxes.

01:11:05.000 That's what irks me a great deal, is the fact that I pay this guy's salary, and yet he has the ability to deny me from getting photographed by whom I consider the greatest president in my lifetime?

01:11:20.000 At his eternal flame?

01:11:23.000 Because he happens to not like the content of my program?

01:11:27.000 And where we're going?

01:11:28.000 Because some of us believe the Warren Commission's a crock of you-know-what?

01:11:33.000 You know?

01:11:34.000 And we still seek the truth, even today?

01:11:38.000 By the way, on another subject, she wouldn't go on air with me.

01:11:43.000 It's kind of the same subject, but I did sit down with Marina Oswald for two and a half hours.

01:11:49.000 Wow, tell us about that.

01:11:50.000 Well, you know, she wouldn't go on the air, but I think the most dynamic thing was this.

01:11:55.000 She said this to me, Alex.

01:11:57.000 She said, nobody cares anymore.

01:11:59.000 And I tried to convince her that, yes, we do, because this is the cornerstone of corruption.

01:12:03.000 If they can kill the president and get away with it, then they can do anything.

01:12:08.000 And I said, it's important that history and we learn the truth, no matter how delayed it is, if indeed we've been lied to.

01:12:16.000 And she looked me right in the eye, and she said, would you sacrifice your children for the truth?

01:12:22.000 Well, it doesn't mean she's necessarily being threatened, but it means that certainly she feels that there is still a threat out there that if maybe she spoke out and said what she really felt, that her children could come in some type of danger.

01:12:41.000 At least that's, you know, the way it was intimated to me, and that's what I took from it, was that she's still very protective of her children, and she's 69 years old now.

01:12:51.000 She speaks pretty good English, and she's been married to her husband, Mr. Porter, since two years after the killing.

01:12:58.000 Of course, the wife of Lee Harvey Oswald, her husband clearly set up, It's now admitted that he was CIA at that airbase in Japan and that they had him infiltrate Russia and then brought him back.

01:13:12.000 Of course, the film JFK covers all of that with historical accuracy.

01:13:17.000 Governor, off air you said, boy, the government sure is acting guilty, not just with this JFK thing, but everything.

01:13:25.000 Everything we look into, Alex, the government behaves like they're guilty of hiding something.

01:13:31.000 Let me put it to you this way, and I won't say where I was, but I've now been tailed and put on by Homeland Security.

01:13:39.000 I've been tailed by the Coast Guard.

01:13:42.000 And we don't do anything illegal, Alex.

01:13:45.000 Everything we do on the show is above board.

01:13:48.000 We try to go through proper channels, and we simply, if something requires us to go There's no waters or waters that are supposed to be free to the public.

01:13:59.000 But yet we tried to hire a boat.

01:14:02.000 And when they found out what we wanted to do, none of the fishermen would take us out.

01:14:06.000 You know why?

01:14:07.000 Because anybody on the coast now, their licenses fall under Homeland Security.

01:14:12.000 And Homeland Security can pull their license if they don't like what they're doing.

01:14:17.000 I like to refer to Homeland Security today as the Gestapo.

01:14:21.000 Well, absolutely.

01:14:24.000 You've got almost every major federal agency under it.

01:14:26.000 And now under the REAL ID Act, they want you to have to have a federally licensed through the state ID card to even be able to work.

01:14:33.000 It's a total tracking system.

01:14:36.000 And you also went somewhere where you were threatened to be shot.

01:14:41.000 Well, yeah, they have areas in the country where they have signs up that say lethal forces authorized, which I find unbelievable.

01:14:51.000 Whatever happened to a trial, whatever happened to going to court, you know, how can you be judged during an executioner in one failed swoop?

01:15:00.000 Now, I'm not saying that they necessarily have or did, but there's areas in this country where they've posted that lethal forces authorized, if you cross this line.

01:15:10.000 And there's not even a fence, it's just you cross some magical line on a dune buggy, you're dead.

01:15:16.000 Well, you could be.

01:15:17.000 It's not saying that you are, but they're authorized to take you out with lethal force if they desire. 0.83

01:15:22.000 Well, Governor, I mean, as you know, in 1947, the CIA got unlimited money, funding, and secrecy, and if you've got 60 years of a group being able to operate with unlimited funds and power, I mean, they've been caught shipping in narcotics, they've been caught engaging in assassinations, and they just think this country is their own private whorehouse.

01:15:42.000 Well, you know, and unfortunately our elected officials are allowing them to get away with it. 0.89

01:15:48.000 You know, we need to, you know, get back our country and remember always, Alex, that we the people and this country was formed, we were supposed to be the priority.

01:15:58.000 It was supposed to be a country of citizens first, government second.

01:16:02.000 But it's not that way today.

01:16:04.000 Government is number one, and we citizens fall by the wayside because everything is directed towards the government and the survival of the government.

01:16:13.000 Governor, I know you've been busy shooting, but earlier in the week, Top Secret USA came out, two-year Washington Post investigation, 850 plus thousand private corporate chiefs, that's close to a million, with the highest level security clearance there is.

01:16:30.000 And the Washington Post described it as a complete takeover of society.

01:16:33.000 So we have a private corporate system that's giving itself government power.

01:16:38.000 Oh, I wouldn't doubt it.

01:16:39.000 I said that probably about 10 years ago.

01:16:42.000 I said the internet right now is the only thing where you can, you know, have total freedom on there.

01:16:54.000 But I said rest assured the government will put high priority on getting control of the internet.

01:17:00.000 Because that's the one place you can go to, supposedly, and have freedom, and they're not going to allow that.

01:17:07.000 You know, more and more I'm seeing our country becoming under the thumb of corporate America, not even... Well, it's like, you know, it came out in the article that I said, I now am very clear on why we're in Afghanistan, Alex.

01:17:22.000 It has nothing to do with terrorism and Bin Laden, that's all a big red herring. 0.96

01:17:26.000 We're there for the lithium.

01:17:29.000 Did you see that story a month ago where they found $8 billion of lithium over there?

01:17:34.000 I mean, think about it.

01:17:36.000 That runs every cell phone, computer, and soon-to-be electric cars.

01:17:40.000 The only reason we're in Afghanistan is to get the lithium.

01:17:45.000 Now, why won't they just be honest and say that?

01:17:50.000 Well, they went on to admit that it could be potentially a trillion dollars, and that they knew this in reports before they invented it.

01:17:57.000 It's also about the trillions in oil in that region as well.

01:18:01.000 Right, you know, and that's the reason we're there.

01:18:04.000 All this stuff on terrorism, put it this way, terrorists are like a motorcycle gang.

01:18:11.000 You know, they're out there, yes they do exist, and there is a possibility that you could run into them very minute.

01:18:18.000 But they are not what this government is making us believe.

01:18:22.000 They are not like the Nazi Army.

01:18:24.000 They are not like the Japanese Army of World War II.

01:18:28.000 They're not a country out there.

01:18:29.000 They're just small groups of criminals that are involved in criminal activity and you have to deal with them.

01:18:36.000 But to put our country under lock and key and take our rights away from us.

01:18:42.000 Absolutely, and every major technology firm out there is getting massive government contracts to spy on the American people.

01:18:50.000 They've completely butchered the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

01:18:54.000 All these groups have the motive for the terror.

01:18:56.000 They stand to gain from it.

01:18:57.000 Did you see the Financial Times of London with one of Obama's advisors, Robert Shapiro, saying of if, in fact guys print that quote for me, that if Obama doesn't have an Oklahoma City or 9-11 soon, his political Well, how would Oklahoma City or 9-11 help him?

01:19:23.000 Well, okay.

01:19:28.000 Well, all I know, Alex, is that, you know, I fully expect within ten years that we're going to have to have national ID cards and you're going to have to show them to go state to state.

01:19:39.000 Oh, they're already saying that we've got a national ID card and they do want you to have it for anything.

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01:24:07.000 Don't forget, the film's now being censored online.

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01:24:16.000 Since I mentioned it, top Clinton official, only a terror attack can save Obama.

01:24:20.000 Financial Times of London, the bottom line here is that Americans don't believe in Obama's leadership.

01:24:25.000 Sid Shapiro adding, he has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he is a leader who can command confidence in short of an 9-11 event, or an Oklahoma City bombing, I can't think of how he can do that.

01:24:37.000 Governor Ventura, is that chilling?

01:24:39.000 Well, unbelievable.

01:24:41.000 I mean, that they talk about that an event has to take place to have confidence in your president, what, that he can fight a war, that we have the strongest military in the world?

01:24:49.000 We've already proven that.

01:24:51.000 You know, I just find it outrageous that someone would say that, and what they'll do for political gain.

01:24:58.000 Well, it's very brazen. 1.00

01:24:59.000 They think we're a bunch of idiots to be talking like that openly. 1.00

01:25:02.000 Governor, in closing, let's talk about the issue of the First Amendment and give out that number one more time. 1.00

01:25:13.000 He's the Army Chief of Public Affairs and he's the guy that wouldn't allow me.

01:25:16.000 And in the letter, Michelle Bachmann, it said his office also stated that he would almost certainly not allow filming at John F. Kennedy's Eternal Flame without the permission of the Kennedy family.

01:25:31.000 So he's saying the Kennedy family has to give permission to film at the Eternal Flame?

01:25:36.000 Wasn't the Eternal Flame to burn eternally for all of us to see it?

01:25:41.000 Take pictures of it and live with it?

01:25:44.000 And then it goes on to say, additionally, Mr. Haas stated that you were denied in part because of the nature of your television program.

01:25:53.000 Specifically, he stated the topic of your particular episode, which alleges the United States government was directly involved in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, is contrary to the mission of the United States Army.

01:26:07.000 Now, first of all, Alex, they didn't know what's in my show.

01:26:12.000 My show hasn't aired yet, so they're simply assuming what's in there.

01:26:16.000 And then they're denying me because of the content of the show.

01:26:20.000 John Kennedy was murdered in Dallas, and if you don't go If you don't go along with the official story, you are not allowed to film at his eternal flame.

01:26:29.000 I guess if you do go along with the official story, maybe then they'll let you.

01:26:33.000 We didn't ask that.

01:26:35.000 But again, his name is Ken Hawes.

01:26:36.000 His phone number is 310-235-7621.

01:26:38.000 Once again, 310-235-7621.

01:26:39.000 310-235-7621.

01:26:43.000 Once again, 310-235-7621.

01:26:47.000 And I'd love for all real Americans to give this guy a call and give him a piece of your mind on who in the hell he thinks he is.

01:26:55.000 Well, Governor Jesse Ventura, if we don't hang together, we'll certainly hang separate, as Benjamin Franklin said. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:27:04.000 Separately on this issue, though, you said that Michelle Bachman, the Congresswoman from your state, is very upset about this.

01:27:10.000 We need to have an investigation or, I mean, pretty soon the military will tell us how to wipe our noses.

01:27:17.000 Exactly, and what's the military doing inside our country telling us things like that?

01:27:22.000 The U.S.

01:27:23.000 military is supposed to protect us, not from ourselves.

01:27:27.000 They're supposed to protect us from foreign invasion or foreign powers.

01:27:31.000 But it seems they're becoming too much involved internally in our country, which I think, Alex, is part of the plan.

01:27:38.000 And your book covers a lot of this.

01:27:40.000 It's so jam-packed, American Conspiracies, and incidentally, it's available at InfoWars.com.

01:27:45.000 You can get a free film of your choice when you get the book, American Conspiracies, at InfoWars.com.

01:27:49.000 It just covers basically all the key issues.

01:27:52.000 I think it's Jesse Ventura's best book and is a New York Times Top Ten bestseller.

01:27:58.000 We've only got about two minutes left, Gov.

01:28:00.000 So much is happening, but it sounds like this second season is even more adventure and action-packed than the last one.

01:28:07.000 I think it's going to be.

01:28:08.000 It certainly is being more adventurous in doing it.

01:28:11.000 I guess we were under the radar the first year we did it, but now it's aired on TV, so we've obviously gotten the attention of the United States government.

01:28:20.000 There's no doubt about that.

01:28:22.000 And what, eight to ten episodes this season?

01:28:25.000 Yeah, eight for sure, and possibly ten.

01:28:27.000 We're doing eight for sure.

01:28:29.000 We've almost completed half of them now, so half of them are just about ready to go into the editing room and be put together into the final form, and then we got the other four to do before October, and it should be on the air, I'm guessing, around mid-October sometime.

01:28:45.000 That is, Alex, unless Mr. Haas has something to say about it.

01:28:47.000 I'm sure if they ask for his input, my show will be censored and not allowed on television.

01:28:50.000 I don't know.

01:28:51.000 You tell me.

01:28:51.000 If I ask for his input, my show will be censored and not allowed on television.

01:28:55.000 Well, what is the Army involved in what views of American citizens, much less a former governor, is?

01:29:01.000 I don't know.

01:29:02.000 You tell me.

01:29:03.000 To me, they're overreaching their bounds dramatically, and this Ken Hawes guy should be relieved of whatever his duty is.

01:29:10.000 Well, we talked last time, a month or so ago, about an awakening.

01:29:14.000 I am seeing an awakening, so I hope the pendulum starts really swinging against all this tyranny.

01:29:20.000 Me too.

01:29:20.000 Alex, I gotta run.

01:29:22.000 You take care, and I'll keep in touch, and I'll let you know anything else that goes on.

01:29:25.000 Alright, Governor Jesse Ventura, thanks for keeping us abreast of the situation.

01:29:29.000 Thanks for defending the First Amendment.

01:29:31.000 Take care.

01:29:31.000 Okay.

01:29:32.000 Goodbye, Alex.

01:29:33.000 All right, there goes Governor Jesse Ventura about to go do a big interview on his JFK investigation.

01:29:38.000 We appreciate him contacting us and giving us this exclusive breakdown of what's going on with the production.

01:29:43.000 There's a lot more happening behind the scenes, but I'm not at liberty to talk about it.

01:29:47.000 But it'll be coming out on the TV show in the fall.

01:29:49.000 Stay with us.

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01:33:10.000 Well, my friends, for the next hour, joining us from Pakistan is Lieutenant General Hamid Ghul.

01:33:27.000 You've seen the mainstream media say that he's, quote, quarterbacking and commanding all the attacks on our forces in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

01:33:36.000 Of course, from my research, this is not the case.

01:33:39.000 He was the big hero, the Pakistani general, the head of the ISI, who led the attacks against the Soviet invasion.

01:33:47.000 And let me read over his bio, then he'll be with us for the next hour.

01:33:50.000 Hamid Ghul was commissioned in the Pakistani Army in '58.

01:33:54.000 He was an armored corps, 19 Lancers, tank commander in major battles on the front with India in 1965.

01:34:03.000 During '72 to '76, he directly served under another top general as battalion commander when General Zia was the GOC, 1st Armored Division and commander of the 2nd Corps.

01:34:15.000 It goes on, Gould was promoted to Brigadier General in 1978 and steadily rose to be commander of the 1st Armored Division.

01:34:23.000 In 1980, Gould was then sent to the GHQ as the DG Military Intelligence under a top general, who then nominated him as the ISI chief, succeeding another general in March of 1987.

01:34:37.000 He was later replaced by ISI commander by Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto in May of 1989.

01:34:44.000 He was then transferred to commander of the Second Corps.

01:34:48.000 In this capacity, General Gould conducted the Zarb-e-Moham military exercise, November, December of 89, the biggest Pakistani armed forces show of muscle since 71, Indo-Pakistan war until now.

01:35:03.000 So he's been a frontline commander and of course a general and the head of Pakistani intelligence.

01:35:09.000 And I won't go any further.

01:35:10.000 I've got a huge laundry list of things to talk about with the general.

01:35:15.000 Two years ago when they had the Mumbai attacks, he came on the show and said the evidence shows it was staged by British-Israeli uh... and uh... u.s.

01:35:23.000 intelligence it's now come out in the chicago tribune with the headline uh... that u.s.

01:35:29.000 agent uh... was the head of that attack uh... the head of indian intelligence also said the west led the false flag attack to blame it on pakistan and to get pakistan and india fighting again that's how they play them off against each other uh... hameed ghul has also questioned the official story of nine eleven he's also going to give us his expert take On why the U.S.

01:35:53.000 is, quote, failing in its war in Afghanistan.

01:35:56.000 And he joins us now for a full hour.

01:35:59.000 Lieutenant General Hamid Gul, thank you for joining us.

01:36:02.000 And thank you.

01:36:03.000 My greetings to all your audience, please.

01:36:06.000 Why did you agree to come on this broadcast, General?

01:36:11.000 Well, basically because my version is not going out to America.

01:36:14.000 I have been denied the visa to travel to America.

01:36:18.000 And these people would not let me into America because they're afraid that I will speak the truth.

01:36:25.000 People will listen to the truth, and then they will find out that these people have made a mess of the American plans.

01:36:34.000 They are actually deceiving their own people.

01:36:37.000 The American generals are failing. 0.72

01:36:38.000 The American intelligence is a disaster.

01:36:41.000 And they know that. 0.94

01:36:42.000 I will speak in their idiom.

01:36:44.000 And because I've worked with them, I've done my intelligence course.

01:36:47.000 You did not mention it in my career record.

01:36:52.000 I did an intelligence course in Okinawa when I was a captain under the U.S.

01:36:57.000 Army, and I know exactly where the failings are, and they do not want it exposed.

01:37:03.000 But lately, I was quite concerned because I was on Farid Zakaria's show, GPS.

01:37:10.000 from two weeks back or maybe 10, 12 days back, and also with Becky Anderson.

01:37:16.000 And they cut me out totally.

01:37:19.000 Not Becky Anderson, but Fareed Zakaria.

01:37:22.000 He recorded me for 30 minutes, but he put out only six minutes of my version.

01:37:28.000 So that is not fair, because I was informed, and especially the things that I said, which were stark realities.

01:37:36.000 And he wanted, obviously, to keep the American people in the dark about these things, feelings which are going on in Afghanistan of the American policy, of the American Military generals, they are failing in every possible respect.

01:37:54.000 This is my academic position, and I am prepared to face any general in America, any people in the academia, that, look, this is what is going wrong.

01:38:05.000 I am a friend of American people.

01:38:07.000 I criticize their policy, and they think that anyone who criticizes the policy is the enemy.

01:38:12.000 This is totally wrong.

01:38:13.000 This is a misperception.

01:38:15.000 We work together with the CIA.

01:38:16.000 We work together with the Americans.

01:38:18.000 I have a lot of friends there.

01:38:20.000 I respect them.

01:38:21.000 And I could also—my advice could also be useful, even at this time, because nobody understands the Afghan society better than I do, because I've worked with them.

01:38:31.000 I read their soul.

01:38:33.000 I read their spirit.

01:38:34.000 And I know I respect those people.

01:38:36.000 I admire their courage and their valor.

01:38:39.000 They have to be your friends.

01:38:40.000 It's a period.

01:38:41.000 I'm telling you, you cannot afford to lose Afghanistan as a friendly country.

01:38:47.000 But unfortunately, the way things are going, if they are not handled properly, the future of Afghanistan would be hostile to America, which would neither be in the interest of Pakistan nor in the interest of America and its allies.

01:38:59.000 But, General, it would be in the interest of the global crime syndicate known as the New World Order that wants to bring order out of chaos, that wants to create crises, that wants to destabilize Pakistan and Afghanistan and ship hundreds of billions of dollars of opium out a year to the streets of America. 0.88

01:39:19.000 They think we're so stupid, they admit on Fox News that our troops help grow the opium in Afghanistan now. 0.67

01:39:26.000 So, the reasons we're there We're publicly told one thing, but we're actually there for another reason, destabilization. 0.99

01:39:34.000 I want you to speak to that and see if you agree, but first, you are live, uncensored.

01:39:40.000 What do you want to tell the American people on more than 80 AM and FM radio stations and the number one internet radio show in the world?

01:39:48.000 What do you want to tell the world about what's really happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan?

01:39:53.000 Because just three weeks ago, They finally admitted that they have been lying and that US advisors, troops, and mercenaries, Blackwater and others, have been operating illegally inside Pakistan in what I have analyzed to be a destabilization campaign.

01:40:11.000 What's really going on over there, General?

01:40:14.000 Well, we know that Blackwater, now operating under the title of Z Worldwide Services, and NCORP, which is another such organization, they are called the security contractors.

01:40:28.000 This is a fundamental fault.

01:40:30.000 There are 105,000 security contractors, the troopers of the security contractors, operating in Afghanistan alone.

01:40:40.000 And I guess there are no figures available.

01:40:43.000 I think no less than 2,000 are operating inside Pakistan.

01:40:47.000 No, this is something which ought never have to be done, because the reason is that the professional armies, when they start engaging the services of civilians, whose motivation is none other than making money and cashing dollars, then you can expect the kind of result that the Americans are getting.

01:41:09.000 And American people, the taxpayers, they have to shuck out a lot of money.

01:41:14.000 A lot of American blood is going to waste.

01:41:17.000 No, all this is a disaster, because you—and now the latest one is the WikiLeaks.

01:41:24.000 In this, again, all the compilation that they have been doing, on which they have been basing their plans, I tell you, it's a disaster.

01:41:32.000 It's an intelligence disaster.

01:41:34.000 Why?

01:41:35.000 Because they have a heavily dependent—they have depended on the security contractors for even intelligence gathering. 1.00

01:41:43.000 Now, imagine, how can they be such foolish people? 0.85

01:41:47.000 I mean, the CIA, the FBI and all the other, and the—to top it all, there is this Task Force 373, which has been indulging in massive civilian casualties. 0.98

01:42:00.000 They've been killing people left, right, and center, and every time they have given the information, they have bombed the marriage parties, they have bombed the funeral procession, they have bombed innocent, and they have even bombed the hospitals.

01:42:14.000 So can you imagine that the intelligence based on the information provided by security contractors has resulted in this massive violation of human rights?

01:42:28.000 It has been anti-humanity.

01:42:31.000 It has destroyed everything that American people and American constitution ever stood for.

01:42:37.000 It has defied the spirit of the original Charter of American Constitution and Human Rights Charter.

01:42:46.000 Everything that you hold so dear to your heart, the American people, they have violated it here in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

01:42:54.000 General, let me go back to something you said.

01:42:56.000 I'm going to put it in layman terms.

01:42:58.000 You have tens of billions of dollars in no-bid contracts going to DynCorp, going to XZ, formerly Blackwater, Blackwater Worldwide.

01:43:08.000 They have an incentive to want the wars to continue and to be expanded.

01:43:15.000 Because they're making billions of dollars out of it.

01:43:17.000 So of course they're going to give intelligence to blame Pakistan and widen the war.

01:43:22.000 Of course they're going to give intelligence that targets civilians knowing that there is the honor code in Pakistan and Afghanistan just like there was in the past. 0.66

01:43:32.000 Here in America, before we lost our souls to a certain extent, that if you kill somebody's wife or children, they are going to kill you or die trying to kill you with this blood-honored debt.

01:43:44.000 That's why they continue, and now they admit to have the CIA...

01:43:48.000 and the Army, piloting drones from Virginia, and they are killing quote, in fact guys search this term, no name terrorist, if someone has a gun, when everybody has guns over there, you know, so called free country like America used to be, and they are killing innocent people, knowing it's going to stir them up and make them mad, so they fight back, then they can call them terrorist, then they can expand the war, then the contractors can make more money.

01:44:18.000 Precisely, Alex.

01:44:19.000 This is exactly—you have painted it so beautifully and so vividly, there could not be a better explanation.

01:44:27.000 This honor code is as old as the Afon Society itself. 0.99

01:44:32.000 I mean, it runs through their blood for the past 5,000 years.

01:44:38.000 And this is called Pakhtoonwali.

01:44:39.000 Pakhtoonwali is an honor code.

01:44:42.000 This evokes even stronger sentiments than the religion.

01:44:47.000 Therefore, these people are not going to forgive all this.

01:44:51.000 And I am afraid that we will have lost this region forever to America, to the West. 0.56

01:44:57.000 And this will not be good for us.

01:44:58.000 I agree.

01:44:59.000 I think it is still time that we redress the situation and some senses driven into the heads which seem to be totally blocked to or impervious to any kind of sensible suggestion.

01:45:13.000 But I think we must keep on trying.

01:45:15.000 I think this is the last lap in which we are now going, and this struggle is going to end We're in a very big disaster for American reputation, for their honor, for their self-respect.

01:45:27.000 And we don't want to have this done.

01:45:29.000 I can assure you, I genuinely am telling this, because American people are such noble people.

01:45:36.000 Sometimes I say they are so gullible and they are so innocent that this borders on being criminally innocent.

01:45:44.000 Because of their innocence, we are suffering.

01:45:47.000 We are suffering for no rhyme or reason at all.

01:45:49.000 But because American people's gallibility, their innocence is exploited by their leaders, that is why we suffer and they suffer as well.

01:45:59.000 So I think this is time now we redress the situation.

01:46:01.000 Well, General, as you know, this is the divide and conquer British model.

01:46:06.000 You had Mohamed Mozadek, somewhat secular, pro-Western, but he wanted to build up Iran and keep some of their own money, so they used radical Muslims to overthrow him, then they put the Shah in and double-crossed the Muslims. 0.62

01:46:23.000 Then, the same thing with the Serbs. 0.78

01:46:25.000 They use the Albanians to break up southern Serbia. 1.00

01:46:28.000 Same thing with Saddam. 0.92

01:46:29.000 They put him in power.

01:46:31.000 They have him overthrow the Ba'athists. 0.99

01:46:32.000 They put him in power.

01:46:34.000 They have him attack Iran. 0.93

01:46:35.000 Then they tell him invade Kuwait.

01:46:37.000 Then they set him up.

01:46:38.000 Now they've set up sectarian Sunni Shiite violence. 0.92

01:46:41.000 Everything is to break down and destabilize your countries.

01:46:46.000 So there is a rhyme and reason to this.

01:46:50.000 It's just so cold-blooded and so evil, the average person cannot grasp it.

01:46:57.000 Yeah, that's right, Alex.

01:46:59.000 I think America, American policy makers have, for their own reason, I don't know, I have not been able to fathom that as yet.

01:47:08.000 But they have allowed the old British, what would we say, mischievous mind to lead American policymaking by the nose. 1.00

01:47:21.000 And I can tell you, I know them.

01:47:23.000 I worked with them.

01:47:24.000 I did my staff course there in Camberley in the U.K., and I know them inside out.

01:47:30.000 They are extremely jealous of America.

01:47:33.000 They do not want to see America flourish.

01:47:35.000 Inside their heart, they don't—they want to pull their leg. 0.96

01:47:39.000 They make a fool of them, and they talk about it. 0.61

01:47:42.000 They have coined jokes for the Americans. 0.91

01:47:47.000 So, this is—this has to be done away with.

01:47:51.000 That is fundamental.

01:47:52.000 The other power, which for its own reason, and those are very mischievous reasons, That is Israel. 1.00

01:47:59.000 And Israel now is joined in by the Indians, unfortunately. 1.00

01:48:03.000 So, together, they formed the club.

01:48:06.000 That club, you can call it the extra or ultra-imperial club.

01:48:12.000 This imperial club is responsible for a lot of problems in the world.

01:48:16.000 And American people are exploited.

01:48:18.000 They are the most innocent people on God's Earth.

01:48:22.000 But they are exploited to the hilt for that implementation of their dark impulse and their dark agenda, which is only a handful of people.

01:48:32.000 There is a clique only, in my assessment, who are indulging in this exercise.

01:48:38.000 General, let's get into WikiLeaks.

01:48:40.000 I noticed day one that what the media focused on out of 90 plus thousand documents were documents, battlefield reports, as you said, fed by private contractors, classically unreliable, completely unreliable.

01:48:54.000 It's like going to the devil, you know, for the truth.

01:48:57.000 And it all points at Pakistan. 0.87

01:48:59.000 It all points at you. 0.97

01:49:01.000 It says that Hamid Gul, here's the quote, This is diabolical nonsense.

01:49:06.000 Washington Post is quarterbacking direct attacks against US forces in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

01:49:15.000 This is diabolical nonsense and if this is the kind of intelligence that America is basing its policies on in this region then God help America because this is totally false It's fabricated.

01:49:29.000 And I tell you, who are the elements involved in it?

01:49:33.000 One, the Afghan intelligence.

01:49:34.000 And good luck that Amarullah Saleh, who was an old communist, who was heading the intelligence setup of Afghanistan, And the intelligence service there in Afghanistan is still infested by the old communist diehard.

01:49:51.000 And they have an axe to grind, especially against me as a person, because I was responsible in part for their ouster from Afghanistan, from their ouster from power.

01:50:02.000 Then the Indians have joined up with them, and they also have things to settle with Pakistan.

01:50:08.000 They want to destabilize Pakistan. 0.99

01:50:10.000 They're sitting on our map, back under the shadow of America, and they're stabbing Pakistan. 1.00

01:50:16.000 An ally, a friend of America—we have been friends not now, but we have been friends right through the days of Cold War.

01:50:23.000 Ever since Mr. Dulles, Foster Dulles, he framed the policy of befriending Pakistan.

01:50:30.000 We have been a very loyal friend of America, and we have given huge sacrifices to uphold that friendship.

01:50:37.000 But, unfortunately, the Indians would have us put down completely, and they would want Pakistan to be subservient to India. 0.99

01:50:46.000 This is not acceptable to people of Pakistan. 0.98

01:50:49.000 Now, this is how Wikileaks has been giving—of course, there are only 180 reports with regard to Pakistan and my person.

01:51:00.000 Eight times I've been mentioned in this.

01:51:03.000 But I said to the CNN also, for heaven's sake, if you think that a 74-year-old general retired some 18 and a half years ago from the army and left ISI 21 years ago, if he's still responsible for defeating America in Afghanistan, which is inevitable, because America is now they have to continue defeat in Afghanistan.

01:51:28.000 There is no way, and I will speak about it professionally at a later stage if you ask me.

01:51:34.000 So if they are going to record it in history, in the history books, What are the American future generation going to read?

01:51:43.000 That the mightiest power ever in the history of mankind was defeated with the help of a retired 74-year-old general living in his house, a retired life?

01:51:56.000 I mean, this would be shameful.

01:51:57.000 They would be ashamed of it.

01:51:58.000 Let the future generation not be ashamed.

01:52:02.000 Speak the truth that you have failed.

01:52:04.000 You have failed because your own policy makers have not come up with the recipes that were required.

01:52:11.000 Your own generals would not measure up to the task that was given to them.

01:52:15.000 So why don't you accept the failure rather than rub the blame on somebody else and start finding scapegoats and those two scapegoats, which would not sell in the market.

01:52:27.000 Please, for God's sake.

01:52:29.000 As far as I am concerned, I can tell you, my future generation will be proud that he was responsible not only in defeat of one superpower, but in defeat of another superpower also.

01:52:40.000 But that's not the case.

01:52:41.000 I don't want America to be defeated there.

01:52:43.000 I want them to exit Afghanistan gracefully. 1.00

01:52:46.000 I don't want them to get involved into a running fight in Afghanistan like they did in Vietnam.

01:52:52.000 Why don't they learn their lesson?

01:52:54.000 And in Vietnam also, it's not too far back in history.

01:52:58.000 General Westmoreland, he was an utter failure.

01:53:00.000 And he was such a big hero.

01:53:02.000 He was being cast in the image of a hero.

01:53:04.000 And he kept on demanding more and more troops.

01:53:07.000 In the end, he had something like 556,000 troops, over half a million troops.

01:53:13.000 And what did you do?

01:53:15.000 I mean, they ran out from Vietnam.

01:53:18.000 Why could they not have thought of it earlier on?

01:53:21.000 And similar situation now confronts them in Afghanistan.

01:53:25.000 So, from my point of view, being a friend of America, I won't.

01:53:30.000 that Americans should go out gracefully, leaving behind them a friendly Afghanistan. 0.75

01:53:36.000 And it is possible.

01:53:37.000 I can tell you it is doable.

01:53:39.000 It is still doable.

01:53:40.000 But tomorrow it may not be doable.

01:53:42.000 Today it is doable from my point of view.

01:53:44.000 As I assess the situation, it is doable.

01:53:48.000 It is doable that Afghan society is allowed to evolve slowly into a modern society. 0.61

01:53:54.000 That is also doable.

01:53:56.000 The way they are going, I think there will be no option left but to cut and run out of Afghanistan. 1.00

01:54:01.000 General, we just skipped that break, but some stations may have gone to it.

01:54:06.000 We are talking to Lieutenant General Hamid Ghul, former head of Pakistani intelligence.

01:54:11.000 And I want to get more into WikiLeaks.

01:54:15.000 I want to go back to the Mumbai attack because you joined us a few years ago. - Sure.

01:54:19.000 Just a few weeks after that tragic event and you fingered Western intelligence for staging it to stir up enmity between India and Pakistan and as a pretext to bring U.S.

01:54:31.000 forces covertly into Pakistan.

01:54:33.000 We now know that was the case.

01:54:35.000 I want to show viewers mainstream news here in the United States, including the Chicago Tribune and others admitting that, quote, the head of that attack was a U.S.

01:54:45.000 agent and explain to people why they do this.

01:54:48.000 And but First, let's get into a basic boil down from your military expertise and expert on the region.

01:54:56.000 What the real policy, what the real objective has been by the United States being used by these globalists inside your country and bordering Afghanistan.

01:55:09.000 doing there?

01:55:09.000 Yeah, nine years of occupation now.

01:55:10.000 What's their real aims versus their public aims?

01:55:12.000 B, what has really happened in the eight years of occupation?

01:55:18.000 And C, where all this is going?

01:55:21.000 Yeah, nine years of occupation now.

01:55:24.000 Nine years of this dirty war which has been going on for a wrong purpose at a wrong time in a wrong place.

01:55:32.000 Now, what is the real?

01:55:33.000 The declared or the stated goal of the war was to disperse Al-Qaeda, to get Osama bin Laden.

01:55:40.000 And now, lately, President Obama has come up with a new formulation, and that says that That we have to reverse the momentum of Taliban. 0.71

01:55:51.000 And who are Taliban?

01:55:53.000 Taliban are resistance fighters.

01:55:55.000 They are the Mujahideen of the old. 1.00

01:55:57.000 I mean, they are the same people, or their sons and daughters, who fought against the Soviet Union.

01:56:04.000 And they are fighting for the same reason as they were fighting against Soviet Union at that time.

01:56:10.000 What is that reason?

01:56:11.000 That reason is to protect their way of life.

01:56:15.000 Whatever it is, you may not agree with that way of life, but the point is, as you are jealous of protecting your way of life, they are jealous of protecting their way of life.

01:56:25.000 The other is liberation, because they look upon the Americans and the Allied forces as the occupation forces, and so they want to liberate.

01:56:37.000 They will not settle for anything less than that.

01:56:40.000 So really, you are fighting the Afghan nation. 0.58

01:56:43.000 Do you want to reverse the momentum of the Afghan nation? 0.97

01:56:47.000 Is it achievable?

01:56:49.000 In my opinion, it is not achievable.

01:56:50.000 It is not worth it.

01:56:52.000 It is, first of all, it is not proper.

01:56:54.000 It is not morally correct that you should be trying to state-jacket a nation, and a nation as proud as the Afghans, in certain mold that you have visualized for them.

01:57:07.000 This is immoral, this is incorrect, and it is not achievable.

01:57:11.000 So the real aim, the hidden aim, the latent aim, I have been saying that before also.

01:57:19.000 That was basically, A, for corporate America to install itself within the center of the oil-rich area, the resources of the Caspian Sea Basin area, resources of the Middle East.

01:57:38.000 B, to check China from moving into this region.

01:57:41.000 That is the strategic aim.

01:57:43.000 And C, to any new system should not emerge, because they are afraid that their system is a failure.

01:57:51.000 And if any new system, based on Islamic principles of egalitarianism, equality, fraternity and freedom, if these principles are really adopted, then imperial powers will have no place to hide.

01:58:07.000 So, really, this was the second, third aim.

01:58:11.000 And fourth one, unfortunately, and very unfortunate for America, is to provide a security shield to the state of Israel.

01:58:20.000 And with that, they want to strengthen India.

01:58:23.000 Now, imagine, a country as big, as powerful, as enlightened as America should be acting to provide security to somebody else.

01:58:37.000 General Gould got a break.

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02:00:24.000 Well, ladies and gentlemen, for the last 30 minutes, retired Lieutenant General Hamid Gul has been our guest, former head of Pakistani intelligence.

02:00:31.000 The Washington Post wrote, if the documents are to be believed, and the uncooperated U.S.

02:00:39.000 intelligence reports must be read with caution.

02:00:42.000 So they add that this is just battlefield reports fed by contractors.

02:00:47.000 Gull has taken a direct hand in quarterbacking attacks against US-led forces in Afghanistan.

02:00:56.000 Gull calls the reports fiction and nothing else.

02:00:59.000 So this is a guy from what I've seen who's told the truth.

02:01:04.000 I mean, I don't trust anybody except my wife and children, and God.

02:01:08.000 But I just go off long-term study, long-term looking at geopolitical systems, the British model of the great game that our country's adopted, how we're being used.

02:01:18.000 I mean, for five years, U.S.

02:01:20.000 troops and contractors have been sneaking around in Afghanistan, excuse me, nine years there, in Pakistan, and now they came out three weeks ago and admitted, okay, we lied to you, we got contractors and troops there.

02:01:33.000 And, you know, Google said two years ago on this show they were there to stir up the tribal areas to destabilize Pakistan.

02:01:40.000 And now that's admitted.

02:01:42.000 I mean, these global corporations that suck us dry with these wars, they have a motive to expand these wars.

02:01:49.000 So, this is a short segment, General, but brief answers on this.

02:01:53.000 Finishing up on Israel and the U.S. 0.85

02:01:55.000 being used as a tool that you were talking about there, and then Well, let me tell you that there is everything to be gained by pulling out and there is everything to be lost by continuing to stay here.

02:02:08.000 we don't pull out?

02:02:09.000 Well, let me tell you that there is everything to be gained by pulling out, and there is everything to be lost by continuing to stay here.

02:02:19.000 So that's my judgment, and I'm quite convinced that this is right.

02:02:23.000 Now, by pulling out, you are going to, because there is a natural affinity between America and Pakistan and America and even Afghanistan, because, you know, they have cooperated in the past throughout.

02:02:37.000 We have a long history of cooperation.

02:02:39.000 When India was in the U.S.S.R.

02:02:41.000 camp, Pakistan was all along, and Afghanistan too, was in the American camp.

02:02:46.000 Afghanistan made a mistake of being in the U.S.S.R. 0.80

02:02:50.000 camp, and U.S.S.R.

02:02:51.000 came and attacked at that time, and of course they resisted.

02:02:55.000 And Pakistan stood behind them, America stood behind them also, and they don't forget that.

02:03:00.000 So if you pull out, and that is very simple, you have to have a change of heart.

02:03:05.000 And I have given that message clearly.

02:03:08.000 I said I am prepared to come, discuss with you, face the court, go for a hearing before the Senate or the Congress.

02:03:16.000 Whatever you want me to do, I am prepared.

02:03:18.000 If I'm a terrorist, if I'm quarterbacking, as you rightly said, these attacks in Afghanistan, then you can catch me.

02:03:29.000 I mean, here is a terrorist who is offering himself.

02:03:32.000 He says, OK, catch me.

02:03:33.000 Hold me responsible.

02:03:36.000 Take me anywhere, to Congress, to any court, to any interrogation center.

02:03:40.000 I'm prepared for all this.

02:03:43.000 They are lying.

02:03:44.000 I tell you, they are lying to the American people more than anyone else.

02:03:48.000 And if they have a change of heart, we will find ways and means when they can pull out safely.

02:03:55.000 They will not be followed.

02:03:57.000 Now, the speech that President Obama made on 8th of May 2009 in Cairo, addressing the Al-Azhar University, I think that was remarkable, because in this he had said, If there is no chance of attack or there is no threat of attack from that region to America, then in that case, we are prepared to pull out every single troop from that region. 0.86

02:04:24.000 And I, at that time, also on some of the TV channels, I said that this is a legitimate demand.

02:04:31.000 OK, we accept this.

02:04:33.000 General, I'm sorry to interrupt you.

02:04:35.000 We've got to go to break.

02:04:36.000 Come back and repeat that thought and finish it up.

02:04:38.000 in the past also.

02:04:39.000 And that automatically means that the responsibility will be on the new government, which will be resolved in Afghanistan, to make sure that there is no threat to American interest.

02:04:51.000 General, I'm sorry to interrupt you.

02:04:54.000 We've got to go to break.

02:04:54.000 Come back and repeat that thought and finish it up.

02:04:56.000 We'll be right back with General Hamid Gould.

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02:09:04.000 Well, we've been talking to Lieutenant General Hamid Gul about a host of really important issues, and he's joining us from Pakistan.

02:09:16.000 Last time we had him on, the regular phone number was being blocked and we were having trouble getting through on the other line.

02:09:26.000 And it looks like we may be having some phone troubles now.

02:09:31.000 We may try to reconnect with him in a moment.

02:09:33.000 General, do we have you?

02:09:37.000 Now again, I have researched all of this information in depth.

02:09:44.000 And we've had the former CIA commander for the entire Afghan war on who wrote the book Jawbreaker and he admitted that they would pick up 12, 13, 14, 15 year old kids and would send them to Guantanamo Bay as terrorists knowing they were totally innocent just to create this illusion.

02:10:03.000 It's a manufactured war as a pretext to feed our troops into a meat grinder as a giant laboratory of control.

02:10:14.000 And that's the bottom line of what's been going on here.

02:10:19.000 Going back to General Hamid Ghul, General, I have looked at all of the information concerned here.

02:10:30.000 And clearly the Pentagon plan is to expand the war into Pakistan.

02:10:34.000 They now admit that U.S.

02:10:36.000 forces and contractors are there illegally.

02:10:40.000 Congress had been lied to about this.

02:10:42.000 Where is all this leading and what are the Western forces doing in Pakistan?

02:10:48.000 Well, they are on sabotage, subversion mission, and inciting people to rise against the central government of Pakistan.

02:10:57.000 So, they are on destabilizing exercise, not realizing that this is going to hurt them more than it is going to hurt us, because we are, in any case, suffering.

02:11:06.000 There is a state of flood at the moment we are facing in Pakistan.

02:11:11.000 It's a great human tragedy that we are in the middle of it.

02:11:15.000 And on top of it, our friends America and their allies, some of their allies, and India, they are in collusion to bash Pakistan and to really unravel it from inside. 0.56

02:11:29.000 But this is very unfair, and I don't think they will be able to do it at the end of the day.

02:11:34.000 I think if they get embroiled in Pakistan, then they will keep on staying here for a very long time. 1.00

02:11:41.000 And I don't think the American people have a heart for it.

02:11:44.000 I think 60% of Americans are already against this war.

02:11:48.000 And if they're going to expand this war, because I know one thing, the irregular fight that is going to be put up to Americans, whether in Pakistan, Afghanistan, or Iran, now the Larger the area of conflict and longer the period of conflict, the established power, the one who is equipped with more firepower, cannot win.

02:12:13.000 This is a lesson from history.

02:12:16.000 And it is immutable.

02:12:18.000 Because if they enlarge the area of conflict, then they will get more embroiled into some of the very difficult things which they can't foresee at this moment.

02:12:26.000 So I think it is professionally very, very unwise for America to get involved into a conflict inside Pakistan.

02:12:34.000 General Ghul, where is this leading if the United States doesn't pull out?

02:12:43.000 Clearly our government, controlled by these offshore corporate interests, wants to expand this into Pakistan with this destabilization.

02:12:52.000 From your research, how many contractors are sneaking around in your country versus regular U.S.

02:12:58.000 forces?

02:12:59.000 Well, I think the security contractors, at this moment, they are trying to spread their wings into Balochistan area.

02:13:08.000 And Americans have been granted permission, it is understood, to open, because they arm twist us, our government and our leaders, very conveniently, and they are going to open a consulate in Kota.

02:13:21.000 And I think it will have two purposes.

02:13:25.000 One, to continue to fan the ongoing insurgency, which is artificially being sponsored in Balochistan, which is largest of our provinces because of its very huge size and because of its borders with the Makaran coast.

02:13:44.000 The coastal line mostly is covered by this province.

02:13:47.000 And it's a long border with Iran.

02:13:50.000 It is about 900 kilometers long border that we share with Iran.

02:13:55.000 So, So it has twin purpose, A, to destabilize Pakistan, and B, to get inside Iran and try to destabilize them, because those areas are Sunni populated, and they are definitely trying to create a problem for Iran from that point. 1.00

02:14:13.000 So, really, at this moment, I would put the figure of the security contractors to less than 5,000.

02:14:22.000 I don't think they are more than this number.

02:14:26.000 And they're trying to expand, because very recently, 650 visas were issued to American servicemen.

02:14:35.000 And they come in CVs.

02:14:36.000 This is very unfortunate that servicemen traditionally should be used in uniform.

02:14:42.000 But when you start using them in civilian clothes, this is not their job.

02:14:46.000 A soldier is brought in bread and he is taught, his training is to fight cleanly on the battlefield.

02:14:55.000 So they're trying to turn them into... ...work of undercover agents.

02:14:58.000 Exactly, trying to turn them into covert spies so they can't be differentiated between them.

02:15:04.000 regular troops and the different contractors.

02:15:08.000 Speaking of Iran, General Ghoul.

02:15:11.000 We continue to hear over and over again that Iran is funding insurgency in Pakistan and Afghanistan. 0.92

02:15:21.000 And many analysts, even here in the West, even many people in the CIA say that that's asinine, that that's a lie.

02:15:28.000 What's the truth there?

02:15:29.000 Oh, it's not a lie.

02:15:31.000 Believe you me, Iran is not doing anything of this nature.

02:15:36.000 But they would have us believe that Iran is our enemy.

02:15:40.000 They're not our enemy.

02:15:42.000 They have—there has been no hostility between Iran and Pakistan.

02:15:45.000 That border is quiet.

02:15:47.000 There is absolutely peaceful movement of goods and people on that border.

02:15:51.000 So, this is not a lie.

02:15:54.000 It's only to malign Iran. 0.97

02:15:56.000 But I tell you, Israel is hell-bent to draw America into a wider war by attacking Iran. 0.79

02:16:07.000 If they go in for unilaterally to attack some target, even drop a few bombs here and there, I think it will flare up a conflict that they will not be able to control.

02:16:18.000 And America is likely to get sucked into this war.

02:16:21.000 And this may turn out to be the third world war.

02:16:24.000 It will be a disaster of the first order.

02:16:27.000 I think it must be avoided at all costs.

02:16:29.000 Well, General Gould, it's not just you, a formidable intelligence and military expert who's worked at every level from ground commander up to major general right through here, but dealing with this, The word that I get from Ray McGovern, high-level CIA analysts, retired and others, is that they're looking at green-lighting it this month.

02:16:52.000 They may attack, Israel may attack, in the next 15 days or even sooner. 0.57

02:16:57.000 We are on the edge of what most even Western analysts say, and the Russians agree, could lead to World War III.

02:17:07.000 Yes, I agree with you.

02:17:08.000 I have said that independently.

02:17:10.000 I didn't have this information that you have, but all the same, I think my calculation as a strategist and as an intelligence expert is that this would be a disaster.

02:17:20.000 I don't think that Russia can be kept back, or China for that matter. 0.86

02:17:25.000 I don't know which of all other countries will get sucked into this imbroglio, and this will be an inferno that will consume So many things.

02:17:34.000 And corporate America would be the biggest sufferer.

02:17:37.000 They don't realize this.

02:17:38.000 Because if it results eventually in destabilization of the entire region, where are they going to sell their goods?

02:17:46.000 And how are they going to pick up the oil?

02:17:48.000 And especially the European countries will be the biggest sufferer.

02:17:53.000 And Japanese economy will collapse. 0.89

02:17:55.000 So many things will happen.

02:17:56.000 You can't simply say it's incalculable at this time.

02:18:00.000 By the way, that's what literally hundreds of top Western analysts are saying.

02:18:03.000 They confer with General Hamid Gul.

02:18:06.000 General, we're running out of time, and we've got one more segment coming up.

02:18:10.000 I may try to keep you a bit longer, but I wanted to get into some other issues.

02:18:14.000 We're also simulcasting on television.

02:18:16.000 If I can have a document cam shot right here.

02:18:19.000 Evidence, Mumbai attackers were Anglo-American intel operatives.

02:18:22.000 That's Kurt Nemo in November of 2008 about the Mumbai attacks.

02:18:27.000 Now we have December of last year, Times of London, Mumbai terror suspect David Headley was rogue U.S.

02:18:36.000 agent.

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02:18:41.000 The head of Indian counterterrorism said it was a Western op, but they killed him that day to shut him up.

02:18:49.000 Here's another one.

02:18:50.000 Chicago man charged in 2008 Mumbai terror attacks.

02:18:53.000 Intelligence connection.

02:18:54.000 So how did you know two years ago, day one, that this was a Western op that they tried to blame on you and Pakistan?

02:19:02.000 Well, I have an uncanny sixth sense about this because of my experience, because of the fact that I've worked with the CIA and I know how their mind works.

02:19:11.000 I can read their mind.

02:19:12.000 For instance, I had said that this 9-11 attack was because of the internal cavity inside America itself.

02:19:25.000 To date, they have not been able to come up with a charge sheet against Osama Bin Laden.

02:19:30.000 He should have been tried in absentia if they had enough evidence on him.

02:19:34.000 Why have they not tried to win?

02:19:35.000 General, I've got to stop you.

02:19:36.000 This is too important.

02:19:37.000 I want you to start over when we come back and talk about Osama bin Laden.

02:19:41.000 Of course, CNN said that you had no evidence of that when bin Laden's on record saying he didn't do it.

02:19:46.000 The CIA now admits two months ago that they created a fake bin Laden video.

02:19:51.000 In fact, print me that Washington Post.

02:19:53.000 It's Spy Talk.

02:19:54.000 CIA created fake bin Laden video.

02:19:56.000 General Hamid Ghul, our guest.

02:19:56.000 Stay there.

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02:23:59.000 Okay, he's a retired three-star general, so it is lieutenant general, former head of Pakistani intelligence, General Hamid Ghul.

02:24:12.000 And And he is with us today.

02:24:15.000 And I have to tell you, I've researched this all in depth myself.

02:24:18.000 It's been declassified, the CIA, Mossad, MI6 stage terror attacks.

02:24:23.000 They're doing everything they can to get us into a full-bore war with Pakistan. 0.98

02:24:27.000 Then they'll have to go in with a full invasion to get the nukes. 0.77

02:24:33.000 I mean, if you think that the Afghans are tough and hard to beat, the Pakistanis are just as tough or tougher and have nuclear weapons. 1.00

02:24:41.000 But I'll get into that in a moment with General Gould.

02:24:42.000 General Gould, I brought up the Mumbai attacks.

02:24:45.000 It was later confirmed that that was run by Western intelligence, and you were getting into 9-11 being an inside job.

02:24:52.000 Please spend some time on that.

02:24:55.000 Yeah, 9-11, they haven't given the evidence so far, and I think much hype was created.

02:24:59.000 Now they don't even mention about Osama bin Laden.

02:25:02.000 The latest statement is by General Petraeus.

02:25:05.000 He said that he is so far away that whether he is alive or dead doesn't matter at all.

02:25:11.000 So that means they have forgotten about Osama bin Laden now, and they are out to destroy the Afghan nation and then come for Pakistan. 0.93

02:25:20.000 From day one, I said 9-11 was a pretext.

02:25:24.000 Afghanistan is the lodging place, this is the staging point, and from there they will jump into Pakistan. 1.00

02:25:32.000 And I fear that this is coming true.

02:25:34.000 But in Pakistan, there's overwhelming interest of both India and Israel.

02:25:40.000 It's not America's interest, because America won't bother whether Pakistan has 30, 40 or 100 bombs. 0.83

02:25:45.000 It makes no difference to America.

02:25:47.000 We have no such hostility between us.

02:25:50.000 In fact, we have been very fast friends in the past, and we still are friends.

02:25:54.000 Anyway, the point is that Israel would simply not be able to digest Pakistan's nuclear program, nor the Indians. 0.94

02:26:02.000 So, Pakistan's nuclear program is one point which needs to be now resolved, one way or another.

02:26:10.000 Either they have to accept that Pakistan is a de facto nuclear power and should be entered into the nuclear club, Because that's a reality. 0.99

02:26:19.000 And the fact that they have not accepted it, while India's nuclear capability has been accepted, that means they are still out to destroy it somehow. 0.97

02:26:29.000 They can't reverse it and they cannot destroy it.

02:26:33.000 Now that is where My understanding of Pakistan's ability, Pakistan's will to resist and its resilience comes into play. 0.91

02:26:43.000 I can assure you there is a complete consensus in Pakistan on this one issue, that nuclear capability we have to protect even if in the process we end up with total destruction. 0.63

02:26:57.000 Doesn't matter, but we will protect this capability of ours.

02:27:02.000 It's a great asset for Pakistan.

02:27:04.000 But my fear, Alex, is that if Pakistan is put to the corner and it is pushed against the wall, Pakistan, being an Islamic state, could also declare international jihad. 0.89

02:27:18.000 Now, if that Islamic state declares international jihad, it becomes binding on the Muslims of the rest of the world. 0.96

02:27:26.000 To come out in support of Jihad.

02:27:28.000 That is what will change the modern history altogether, if that call is given.

02:27:34.000 So let Pakistan not be taken lightly by the adversaries, by India, by Israel, or even by America.

02:27:43.000 Pakistan has a potential, which is a very dangerous potential. 1.00

02:27:47.000 We wouldn't like to do that.

02:27:48.000 But if we have no other choice, if it is an existentialist threat to us, then anything is possible.

02:27:56.000 And it better be avoided by our adversaries.

02:28:00.000 General, I'm showing viewers Spy Talk, the issue from about two months ago in the Washington Post, with a headline, CIA's Unit Wacky Idea Depicts Saddam as Gay, but buried in the article, they admit that they made fake Bin Laden videos.

02:28:17.000 The famous Bin Laden video is a fake.

02:28:20.000 So, Bin Laden was writing letters saying he didn't do this after the attacks.

02:28:25.000 Meanwhile, they use message boards and fake videos and they admit it was a fake video.

02:28:30.000 Why would the CIA arrogantly come out and admit they're growing the opium?

02:28:34.000 Why would they arrogantly come out and brag that they are creating fake Bin Laden videos?

02:28:39.000 I mean, why are they so arrogant?

02:28:43.000 Well, this is the imperial arrogance, imperial hubris, which I think afflicts every nation which comes into that position, where it stands at the pinnacle.

02:28:53.000 And there is no one to destroy them, but they themselves, their own internal cavities destroy them.

02:28:59.000 arrogance and their own sense of injustices.

02:29:03.000 I mean, that is what destroys them.

02:29:05.000 So I think they are, this system is on self-destruct, unfortunately.

02:29:09.000 Their status, somehow, they are not able to handle it properly.

02:29:14.000 The sole superpower status.

02:29:16.000 Because there are lesser men.

02:29:18.000 The leaders are lesser leaders. 0.96

02:29:20.000 They are, there are pygmies as far as intellectual capacity is concerned, as far as their moral quality is concerned, they are pygmies. 0.91

02:29:32.000 This is the problem of the leadership.

02:29:33.000 So I think while we in the third world countries usually cry about our leaders, I think poor America is also really bereft of the quality leadership that they deserve and they General, stay there. 0.97

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02:33:20.000 Three-star General Hamid Gould, former head of Pakistani intelligence who led the forces to victory against the Soviet bear.

02:33:27.000 When you watch the films and read the documents about the Soviets massacring villages...

02:33:33.000 Carpet bombing villages.

02:33:34.000 It's exactly what our criminal government's doing. 0.78

02:33:37.000 The same corporations that have occupied Afghanistan using our military are occupying my country. 0.73

02:33:44.000 They're waging war against my Bill of Rights, my Constitution, my children's future.

02:33:50.000 I want my republic back.

02:33:52.000 I want to be known as the land of the free, home of the brave.

02:33:54.000 An example of goodness, not an example of evil.

02:33:58.000 They lie to you.

02:33:59.000 They give you fake Bin Laden videos.

02:34:00.000 They stage terror attacks.

02:34:02.000 They say Saddam's got WMDs when he doesn't.

02:34:05.000 And they want to start World War III, not just with Iran, but Pakistan.

02:34:10.000 I concur with General Gould's analysis 100% from my own deep 18-hour-a-day research, many days.

02:34:19.000 Okay?

02:34:20.000 We are going into World War III.

02:34:22.000 And General Gould, you talked about how they want to cause the collapse Of Pakistan, how they're funding radicals there, which has been admitted. 0.98

02:34:30.000 They've been caught.

02:34:32.000 And how they want Pakistan to have their back against a wall, so they have to declare an emergency jihad to protect themselves and call on aid, as Afghanistan did, so they can have what the PNAC documents and the Israelis and Dick Cheney called for in the September 20, 2000, Rebuilding America's Defense's PNAC document, a clash of civilizations. 0.60

02:34:52.000 They want to force the American people into a bare-knuckle war.

02:34:57.000 To fully commit us.

02:34:58.000 I believe they're going to set off nukes in the U.S.

02:35:00.000 and blame it on Pakistan and Iran.

02:35:03.000 I see them putting out this story to where the Americans will howl with pure rage.

02:35:07.000 They will ship three million Americans over there, bloodthirsty, ready for absolute genocide. 0.99

02:35:13.000 And so your people, my people, have to stand together against the New World Order, just like they want to put two pit bulls in a... 0.98

02:35:21.000 In a ring and have us kill each other. 0.98

02:35:23.000 We don't need to do this We need to be smart enough to avert this and the evidence is clear We are on the verge of them launching World War three a clash between Christendom what's left of it in the West and the East a war without end general your comments My comments are that there is no clash of civilization.

02:35:44.000 This is a myth that has been created, unfortunately.

02:35:46.000 There has to be a meeting of civilization.

02:35:50.000 And as far as Islam is concerned, why is it being looked upon as an enemy, as an adversary?

02:35:55.000 Islam encompasses Christianity and Judaism.

02:35:58.000 It is not an entity in itself, but actually it encompasses all the three religions of the book.

02:36:05.000 So, there has to be enmity, peace among us, and everyone has to gain from it.

02:36:10.000 And therefore, there is no need for the dark impulse in the American system.

02:36:16.000 I won't say in the American people, because they are so good.

02:36:19.000 It is in the American system that dark impulse has to be removed.

02:36:24.000 And it can only be removed by the American people if they rise against it, like the moratorium movement back in the Vietnam days, when it picked up from Berkeley's campus and then it spread across the cities and villages of whole of America.

02:36:41.000 It became the battle cry for American people that this was a useless war.

02:36:47.000 This was a debilitating war, and we must quit as soon as possible, which they did. 0.65

02:36:52.000 And, of course, America still remained a great power.

02:36:56.000 And eventually, because of the Afghan blood, because the services of Pakistan and men like me, that America enjoys today the status of the sole superpower. 0.51

02:37:07.000 Now, America is hell-bent, or that dark impulse in the American system is hell-bent, that they destroy America's position as the sole superpower.

02:37:17.000 So, it has to be morally corrected.

02:37:19.000 Unfortunately, telling lies with regard to Iraq, telling lies with regard to 9-11, and telling lies now with regard to the Bombay attack.

02:37:29.000 Everywhere it is lies, lies, and lies, nothing else.

02:37:33.000 And that is not going to be helpful, because that is going to totally demolish the American position.

02:37:40.000 American economy is in doldrums, but the generals of the Pentagon, they would want America to commit more forces.

02:37:49.000 In Afghanistan and elsewhere, and now they want to pick a fight with Iran at the same time, pick a fight with Pakistan. 0.80

02:37:55.000 I don't know.

02:37:56.000 They have to sit down, war game it, and if I am there, I will tell each one of them how wrong they are.

02:38:03.000 They are lesser to be learned from military history.

02:38:05.000 In Afghanistan, for instance, the spaces are not in their control.

02:38:12.000 Is actually the outcome of three interplay of three factors, which is very important.

02:38:17.000 Now, I'm talking as a professional soldier.

02:38:19.000 The time, space and relative strength.

02:38:23.000 In Afghanistan, Americans have the watch and opposition has the time. 0.53

02:38:29.000 The Mujahideen have the time. 0.99

02:38:31.000 In Afghanistan, again, they have the spaces are with the opposition.

02:38:36.000 And Americans are confined only to garrison town.

02:38:41.000 More and more they will be squeezed into the garrison town.

02:38:45.000 And third factor, that of relative strength, agreed that America has firepower, but America does not have a willing, motivated manpower.

02:38:56.000 Slowly, gradually, the American soldiers have started now asking, what are we here for?

02:39:01.000 Why are we laying down our lives?

02:39:03.000 And I think this is a terrible situation if it seeps into the minds of the soldiers.

02:39:09.000 And I think before this really erupts, It's better for America, it's better for the world that they pull out of here and they abandon any notions of attacking Iran or coming for Pakistan's nuclear capability.

02:39:23.000 They cannot pluck it out and it can create a desperate Pakistan which could do anything. 1.00

02:39:30.000 I'm not saying that Pakistan won't do it, but I think There are possibilities and there are chances that Pakistan may actually have to, for its own existence, for its own honor, for its own well-being, it can go to the extreme limit, which would not be good for the countries who want to see Pakistan's nuclear capability destroyed and Pakistan cut to pieces. 0.91

02:39:55.000 No, it will not happen.

02:39:56.000 I can assure you this.

02:39:58.000 And they better disabuse their minds and their plans of this kind of notion.

02:40:05.000 General, a few other points I wanted to bring up to you and then any other points you'd like to make and we'll let you go.

02:40:10.000 We're very thankful for your time today and your courage to come on this broadcast.

02:40:14.000 But specifically, Benazir Bhutto, dealing with another lie.

02:40:19.000 Our media said that she fell and hit her head on the side of a car, even though all over European and Central Asian news, It showed her being machine gunned in the chest by Western contractors as the intel.

02:40:32.000 And then when it came out that she had been murdered and that our media had lied, they tried to claim that forces associated with the Taliban, which is any tribal group that resists occupation, had done it.

02:40:45.000 What is the truth from your research about the assassination of Buddha?

02:40:50.000 I've been saying that all along.

02:40:53.000 She has been killed by the American border.

02:40:55.000 He's been killed by Dick Cheney's people.

02:40:58.000 They are the ones who are operating in Dick Cheney's order because Dick Cheney has drawn up a plan of governance for Pakistan and Benazir has become rebellious.

02:41:09.000 She refused to meet Negra Ponte, because Negra Ponte had told her not to go in Pakistan until after the election.

02:41:16.000 But she dared them, and she came and she said, I want independent judiciary.

02:41:21.000 She sent me a message through an emissary, a good friend of hers and me, and he came and said that she says, General, I am now agreeing with you.

02:41:31.000 I tend to agree with you that the Americans have evil designs on Pakistan. 0.90

02:41:36.000 And therefore I know that she had become very dangerous for them.

02:41:42.000 For Dick Cheney and company, who wanted things to happen in a certain way in Pakistan.

02:41:48.000 Unfortunately, those things are happening in that fashion.

02:41:51.000 And I think Pakistan is in tatters today.

02:41:53.000 Pakistan has to be redeemed. 0.87

02:41:56.000 And I think the young generation of Pakistan is very angry, very unhappy with America. 0.99

02:42:01.000 So America must not think of ruling Pakistan by proxies.

02:42:06.000 This is wrong.

02:42:07.000 And I think they should quit this idea as soon as possible.

02:42:12.000 Well, General Gould, here is my message to the Pakistani people. 0.91

02:42:15.000 I know you're hardworking, intelligent, good people, who have always been friends with the United States, and I have the globalist-owned PNAC plans to go in and destabilize you and overthrow your country and then put

02:42:29.000 extremist in power so that you won't have a highly developed civilization and they're threatened by that and they also want to use up America's treasure and our good name and destroy us in the international community via your destruction so that this new global corporate state known as the New World Order can rise and they now admit they're forming a world government run by private banks

02:42:55.000 They have a global carbon tax that's meant to strangle development.

02:42:59.000 This is eugenics. 0.99

02:43:01.000 And from my research, I've never read your writings on this subject, but I'm curious your view on the aim of this global corporate Anglo-American New World Order system and are you aware that they've been caught Giving children in Central Asia, this is CBS News, real polio in the shots to kill them.

02:43:19.000 They've been caught adding sterilants to the tetanus shots to sterilize women.

02:43:24.000 And that from my research, Latin America, Africa, Central Asia, Pakistan, particularly, is targeted by a covert population reduction program.

02:43:34.000 Are you aware of that, sir?

02:43:37.000 Yes, I've heard of it and I think it's very obnoxious to say the least.

02:43:42.000 But America appears to be becoming heartless.

02:43:46.000 And I think the American people have got to win back their heart.

02:43:50.000 And they have to come up with an opinion which is stronger than their dark policies.

02:43:57.000 I think that opinion, America can be stopped in the drag only by the American people.

02:44:04.000 There's nobody else who can do that for them until the whole disaster takes place.

02:44:10.000 But we want to avert disaster as you very rightly said.

02:44:13.000 I think that's your mission.

02:44:14.000 And good luck to you for that mission.

02:44:17.000 I think it's a noble mission.

02:44:18.000 And you must continue pressing this hard as much as you can.

02:44:22.000 General Hamid Ghul, thank you so much for joining us today.

02:44:26.000 I look forward to speaking to you again in the future, and I hope that our two countries can be friends, and I hope that we can get our nation back from the globalists.

02:44:33.000 Thank you for joining us.

02:44:35.000 Thank you, Alex, and goodbye.

02:44:36.000 Goodbye, General Gould.

02:44:38.000 Well, there you go, ladies and gentlemen, an hour and 15 minute live uncensored interview with three-star General Hamid Gould, former head of Pakistani intelligence.

02:44:48.000 And I will post this video and audio at PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:44:53.000 If you missed any of it in the live show today, it'll be up just minutes after the live broadcast ends, after Max Keiser is with us on The Economy and other news.

02:45:02.000 But what you just heard is the truth from all of my research.

02:45:06.000 Separately, with doing my own research, I can find nothing that Hamid Gul said here.

02:45:13.000 That isn't Veritas.

02:45:14.000 That isn't the truth.

02:45:16.000 And this guy was a hero in our media in the 80s, leading the attacks against the Soviets.

02:45:22.000 And now, you know, it's the Russians saying we better be careful in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and it's our own government, run by a bunch of crooks, that is trying to expand all of this. 0.62

02:45:34.000 So, a very informative interview with Lieutenant General Hamid Gul, and obviously In the days to come, you'll probably see a lot of news articles written about all of this, but what was the one line, Jaren, that he said that you thought would be a good idea to name the video of this when we posted it at PrisonPlanet.tv?

02:45:57.000 God help America.

02:45:59.000 Hamid Gul, God help America. 0.59

02:46:01.000 This is a guy actually trained over here, and our media Is using fake battlefield reports, even the Washington Post said are very questionable, to claim that this 74 year old gentleman, did he say 74 or 76?

02:46:17.000 To claim that he is running all these attacks, when it's all these different tribes, all these different groups, who many times are even fighting with each other.

02:46:26.000 I mean, nobody's running this, nobody's controlling this.

02:46:30.000 That's the globalist mindset, is they create crises so big, And so out of control that the problems just get bigger and then they can spend more money and more troops and project more power in the name of cleaning it up, but the plan is only to make it worse and commit us to an endless war.

02:46:52.000 And that's why as a patriotic American who defends the entire Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, and Constitution, I agree with George Washington.

02:47:01.000 And we know FEMA demonizes George Washington.

02:47:03.000 I have video training films where they teach police and firefighters and sheriff's deputies that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were terrorists and were bad.

02:47:11.000 It's in my film Road to Tyranny. 0.79

02:47:15.000 And it's just so disgusting to see this, but George Washington, now Al-Qaeda, according to our government, I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but it's true. 1.00

02:47:24.000 He said no foreign entanglements. 0.85

02:47:26.000 We're not an empire.

02:47:27.000 We're going to trade with people, like Ron Paul says.

02:47:30.000 We're going to have business with people.

02:47:32.000 I got a bunch of other news coming up on the economy.

02:47:34.000 I want to head on ahead of Max Keiser joining us, some other military news.

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02:54:42.000 Well, right when we kick off the third hour, Max Keiser, stockbroker, inventor of the Hollywood Stock Exchange, great trends forecaster, he'll be joining us today on this live Monday, 16th day of August, 2010.

02:54:58.000 I'm going to get into the economy with Kaiser coming up and the Iran situation. 0.63

02:55:03.000 But first, I wanted to get into some Big Brother news.

02:55:06.000 This is up at PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com right now.

02:55:11.000 Remember six, seven years ago in Australia and the U.S., the NSA was going to give local police and Bureau of Land Management And environmental groups, even private ones, access to satellite images, lifetime of people's farms and ranches and businesses, so they could harass people so that they couldn't build a barn or couldn't plant crops without being harassed.

02:55:36.000 Well, all Google did, which is admittedly part of the NSA, I mean, I told you that many years ago, now they admit it, is they just made it all public to everybody.

02:55:47.000 And government is now using this to harass people and all over the world, because the same global corporations are setting this up.

02:55:54.000 They're banning people collecting their own rainwater, and now they're saying you've got to pay for rain to fall on your crops.

02:56:02.000 But then other nations don't have to do that.

02:56:04.000 It's all selective.

02:56:05.000 It's all part of the carbon tax.

02:56:07.000 This will shut down our industry and our farming even more.

02:56:10.000 Key article up at PrisonPlanet.com by Paul Joseph Watson today.

02:56:15.000 Government using Google Earth to loot destitute Americans.

02:56:19.000 And I actually heard an NPR piece.

02:56:22.000 About two weeks ago, and thought to call Watson, because a lot of times I call Watson or Kurt.

02:56:27.000 Kurt works here now, he's moved to Austin from New Mexico.

02:56:30.000 So I'll usually go into their office or call them.

02:56:32.000 Watson's in England, both Watsons are. 1.00

02:56:34.000 And I'll say right on this, and I forgot to, but that's why I love Watson, because he thinks just like I do, and he wrote a story about it.

02:56:40.000 But NPR was saying it was good.

02:56:43.000 In Greece, and in other countries, the government to raise money, Is charging people, depending on the city, $300 to $1,000 or 1,000 euros for a swimming pool fee.

02:56:57.000 Or they notice if your swimming pool looks like it's in disuse, they come and fine you.

02:57:02.000 So it's all part of this surveillance harassment.

02:57:04.000 Remember that Pennsylvania tax collection ad where it says, hey, Tom, we're watching you.

02:57:11.000 You didn't pay $4,000 taxes and we know where you live.

02:57:14.000 And it shows the earth and they zoom in from space and show the guy's house.

02:57:20.000 Again, this is all designed for you.

02:57:22.000 Here it is.

02:57:23.000 Smile.

02:57:24.000 Aerial images being used to enforce laws.

02:57:26.000 Associated Press.

02:57:29.000 And that was August 14th, just two days ago.

02:57:31.000 In fact, crank this ad up.

02:57:33.000 Start it over.

02:57:34.000 That's a good idea.

02:57:35.000 Crank up the ad, because I want people to actually see and hear this ad where they're intimidating people.

02:57:39.000 Here it is.

02:57:42.000 Just off of 5th Street.

02:57:43.000 Nice car, Tom.

02:57:45.000 Nice house.

02:57:45.000 What's not so nice is you owe Pennsylvania $4,212 in back taxes.

02:57:52.000 Listen, Tom.

02:57:53.000 We can make this easy.

02:57:55.000 Pay online by June 18th, and we'll skip your penalty and take half off your interest.

02:58:01.000 Because, Tom, we do know who you are.

02:58:06.000 Oh, find us before we find you.

02:58:08.000 So this whole grid isn't for the terrorists.

02:58:11.000 That's the government.

02:58:11.000 They're staging almost all of it.

02:58:13.000 It's for us.

02:58:14.000 State utilizing aerial imagery technology to enforce petty ordinances and loot destitute citizens of whatever income they have left after having had trillions in wealth stolen and transferred to foreign banks and trillions spent to build these satellites and launch them.

02:58:29.000 And the whole article just goes over Uh, Ed.

02:58:32.000 And then there's another report here.

02:58:34.000 They're now coming in to charge you for rainwater usage.

02:58:39.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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