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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Well, he's the former head of the Green Party in England, championship goalie, international BBC presenter, multi-time best-selling author, and somebody who's really expanded people's paradigms and gotten them to look into a lot of very interesting places.

00:00:36.000 And so much of what David Icke predicted More than 15 years ago, unfortunately, has unfolded.

00:00:42.000 I agree with him that we're on the verge of a world transformation, an awakening.

00:00:46.000 The system is panicking with divide and conquer.

00:00:49.000 There's no doubt they blew the oil well.

00:00:51.000 There's no doubt they're now admitting we're going into a depression, trying to start World War III.

00:00:55.000 They know they're losing control.

00:00:57.000 And let me tell you, this is the most important time in human history up to this point.

00:01:01.000 He's with us for the next hour.

00:01:03.000 David Icke, thank you for being on with us.

00:01:05.000 Pleasure, Alex.

00:01:06.000 Well, we were just talking during that one-minute break, and you were saying that you do believe this is the quickening or the beginning of the acceleration of a real paradigm shift.

00:01:15.000 There's a lot of issues I want to go over, but what's on David Icke's radar screen that you think is most important right now?

00:01:22.000 Well, I think, you know, what we're seeing on the surface, horrendous as it is, is a manifestation of something that's actually much, much deeper than this.

00:01:32.000 There's no doubt whatsoever.

00:01:34.000 I mean, I've seen it so blatantly over the last 20 years, gathering pace and gathering pace.

00:01:39.000 There is an awakening going on.

00:01:40.000 It's not the majority yet, but minds are opening.

00:01:44.000 Now, as minds are opening, they're seeing what they couldn't see before.

00:01:48.000 And what the cabal wants to do is keep those minds shut.

00:01:52.000 And one of the most effective ways of doing this This is why we've got to stay really strong and focused in this period we're going through now.

00:01:59.000 There's going to be a number of years of major challenges.

00:02:02.000 The way that they are seeking to keep us from awakening, to keep our minds closed, is to keep us focused on fear, keep us focused on survival, keep us bewildered, keep us in a state of constant anxiety about what's happening, what about the future, what about the kids, what about the job, the way of life in the Gulf is gone, oh my goodness, a war in Iraq, in Iran now, what's going on, oh now there's an economic depression, oh my, this is all

00:02:33.000 orchestrated to throw everything, not just the kitchen sink, but the plug as well, at humanity in general, so that we are so focused on survival and fear and anxiety that we don't go and continue this process of awakening, so that we are so focused on survival and fear and anxiety that we don't go and continue this process of awakening, so we can actually expand It's a battle for our minds.

00:02:58.000 It may not seem like that.

00:02:59.000 It may seem like it's just another manufactured catastrophe in the Gulf, another war in Iran, another economic collapse, but all these things are orchestrated to fire at our minds, and our minds but all these things are orchestrated to fire at our minds, and our minds are the target, because from our state of perception of self in the world comes our That's right.

00:03:27.000 I've noticed the globalists dominate by just getting our attention, and always creating new crisis, so we watch the mainstream television, so we pay attention to them, and they dominate how we dress and what we think and what we eat, and just literally get us sucked into this and just literally get us sucked into this false...

00:03:46.000 Tapestry this false reality that they are projecting and now they're openly saying they want to start shutting off the web Which shows that they realize they wanted to use it as a tool of domination, but that it's backfiring against them That's the word, Alex.

00:04:00.000 Attention.

00:04:01.000 It's a battle for our attention.

00:04:04.000 Because the idea is to hold humanity in a state where we are filtering and seeing ourselves and the world only through the five senses.

00:04:18.000 We are multi-dimensional consciousness, awareness.

00:04:22.000 We are far, far greater What we appear to be when we look in the mirror and say that's David Icke or that's Alex Jones or that's Ethel Smith and what they want us to do is keep our attention on the five senses and that's what we do when we are in fear, when we are in anxiety, when we're worrying about the future, when we have this sense of fear of not surviving that pulls us into the five senses and that's

00:04:51.000 And then the system poses as the saviors and says, we'll keep you safe, just let us run your life.

00:04:56.000 Stay there David Icke, back in three minutes.

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00:07:59.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:08:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:12.000 Well, we've got David Icke with us for the rest of the hour.

00:08:14.000 He just joined us, former head of the UK Green Party, champion goalie, BBC presenter, best-selling author, and always interesting to get his perspective on things.

00:08:25.000 I always find it thought-provoking.

00:08:29.000 Very apropos of what's happening in our world.

00:08:31.000 We always find his perspective to be enlightening.

00:08:35.000 David, instead of us getting into generalities or myself getting into long diatribes about my view of what's happening, today I really want to try to sit back.

00:08:46.000 We'll see if I can do it because you bring up so many points that make me want to chime in and just throw out questions and get your take on it.

00:08:52.000 The globalist are overrunning the West with third world populations. 1.00

00:08:59.000 Why are they doing this?

00:09:02.000 Well, two things we need to know to get a perspective on the world is where this cabal wants to take the world and the methods they use to take us there.

00:09:13.000 And where they want to take the world, of course, as we well know, is to a global fascist dictatorship with the end of countries, the end of borders, where basically you just have the world government dictating to massive regional blocs.

00:09:29.000 And anything below that is just irrelevant.

00:09:33.000 And one of the great barriers to that happening is the people's sense of their own culture, their own country, their own sovereign nation, if you like.

00:09:46.000 And because people, if they have a real sense of country, and I'm not saying that I'm into all this, but a lot of people are, and this is the point from the Cabal's point of view, they will resist giving that power away, say from the United States to the North American they will resist giving that power away, say from the United States to the North American Union, And so the idea is to break down...

00:10:12.000 That sense of culture by basically breaking down the culture.

00:10:17.000 And you do that by opening borders to other cultures. 0.75

00:10:20.000 Now I'm not saying one culture is better than another, I'm just trying to explain here what they're doing from their perspective.

00:10:25.000 And that you let different cultures pour into the same area and suddenly it becomes a cocktail.

00:10:33.000 And there is no single culture anymore that people can identify with and that is all the time Loosening and weakening people's sense of need to resist the giving away of sovereignty to unions and to a world government because they've lost the sense of culture that they had before.

00:10:53.000 See, this is why what we're talking about here is happening all over the world because of course it's a global agenda.

00:11:00.000 In Europe, the European Union has brought down the borders all over Europe, and every time another country comes into the European Union, their borders come down and the borders between them and every other country comes down.

00:11:12.000 And so from Eastern Europe, for instance, people pour into Western European countries, and it becomes, again, exactly the same thing, a cocktail of cultures, which eventually becomes just nothing that really is something people can identify.

00:11:28.000 And the globalists can also play those different groups off against each other.

00:11:31.000 Not only will they give up their rights, but then I see the trendies always counter back.

00:11:36.000 Oh, well, it's like Star Trek, which we know is predictive programming.

00:11:39.000 Oh, we'll all be unified in love, but this isn't some loving world government that we decided to lovingly join.

00:11:46.000 This was covertly built.

00:11:48.000 They now admit it was covertly built, and it's authoritarian, dehumanizing, and it's admitted in-game is global depopulation.

00:11:57.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:58.000 And this is a very, very interesting point, a very important point about playing one off against the other.

00:12:04.000 You know, the people that pour from the poorer countries into the richer countries through the borders coming down are just as much pawns in this game as those in the countries of the indigenous population that are affected by that. 0.97

00:12:23.000 It's not good guys and bad guys we're talking about here.

00:12:27.000 It's different aspects of the human race being used as pawns in the same game.

00:12:32.000 And this is why, instead of fighting each other, we need to start looking at what unites us all, which is the fact that we're all the target of this cabal, this global fascist dictatorship in the making, in the very first making.

00:12:46.000 I mean, we have proof in this country.

00:12:49.000 A few months ago now, but during the Blair administration, they were allowing people immigration into Britain on a scale they weren't admitting to.

00:13:02.000 It came out, one of the people involved blew the whistle on this, and what they were actually saying is they wanted to Um, have so much immigration into Britain that it would, this is the quote, change British society forever.

00:13:18.000 And in that one quote, we have the prime reason for bringing the borders down.

00:13:24.000 This is what they've done in Europe.

00:13:25.000 I mean, the government here now, the new government of Cameron, saying, oh, we must, we must slow down immigration into Britain. 0.71

00:13:32.000 But they don't say immigration.

00:13:34.000 They say non-EU immigration because they have absolutely no power whatsoever because of the European Union laws now and the giving away of sovereignty to stop anybody coming in from the European Union into Britain.

00:13:50.000 And that's exactly the position they want.

00:13:52.000 They're doing the same in America, of course. 0.73

00:13:54.000 Listeners to this program will well know, and so anyone that challenges this, in America for instance, they're called racist and they're targeted by the federal government as we're seeing in some states of America try to make a stand on this, and it's all orchestrated to break down and destroy a sense of what is America, of what is Britain, of what is all these countries that are targeted.

00:14:19.000 And like I say, this is not an attack on what we call immigrants.

00:14:22.000 It's absolutely not, because they are as much pawns in this game as anybody else.

00:14:28.000 And David, let me just add a brief caveat to that.

00:14:31.000 Absolutely.

00:14:32.000 I mean, it's simple.

00:14:33.000 Whatever the globalists are for, whatever they're really promoting in their councils, we've got to be against.

00:14:38.000 If they're against disarming us, it doesn't mean there aren't some accidents and problems with having an armed society.

00:14:43.000 We've still got to be for it.

00:14:45.000 If they're trying to socialize health care, you get the legislation.

00:14:49.000 It's a eugenics takeover, lowering the quality, raising taxes. 0.99

00:14:53.000 We've got to be against it.

00:14:54.000 They want to launch a new war.

00:14:56.000 We've got to be against it.

00:14:57.000 They want open borders.

00:14:58.000 We've got to be against it.

00:14:59.000 I mean, it's very simple.

00:15:00.000 We know these are evil, anti-human, anti-freedom people, and we must stand against everything they stand for.

00:15:08.000 Now, we can intellectualize and then always go down the road and look at why that's the case, but their interests are not the interest of free humanity.

00:15:15.000 So it's very elementary for me.

00:15:18.000 That's a very, very good point.

00:15:21.000 Let's get it real straight.

00:15:22.000 These people not only don't care about us, they are antagonistic towards us.

00:15:29.000 They want to destroy the human race and bring it under the heel of their global fascist dictatorship. 0.73

00:15:35.000 They want to irrevocably change what humans are in our society, the family, everything, to we are just empty biological androids and their words that they program.

00:15:45.000 This is the end of humanity.

00:15:46.000 This is the extinction of humanity is their stated goal in every document I've got by their transhumanist futurist. 1.00

00:15:53.000 These are human hating scum. 0.99

00:15:57.000 This is what we're dealing with, and therefore, as you quite rightly say, if they're for it, then it's bad for the human race. 1.00

00:16:04.000 And we've got to be a bit more kind of streetwise about this and not see everything in black and white.

00:16:12.000 The question of gun ownership.

00:16:14.000 I've never had a gun.

00:16:15.000 I don't want a gun.

00:16:16.000 I don't want to use a gun.

00:16:19.000 I'm not into any of that stuff, but a lot of people have guns in America.

00:16:23.000 The question that comes up is, should people have guns or should people not have guns?

00:16:28.000 And that's a debate, okay?

00:16:29.000 But it's not the debate.

00:16:31.000 That's at the heart of what's happening now.

00:16:33.000 The question should be, why do the people who have a deep hatred for humanity, why do they want to disarm the American population?

00:16:43.000 Now, that's the key thing we ought to be looking at.

00:16:46.000 We can have these debates about this and immigration.

00:16:49.000 The question is, why does the cabal want to do it?

00:16:54.000 And the answer is always because it advances their agenda towards the global fascist dictatorship in which, as you rightly say, it won't just be an economic dictatorship, a political dictatorship, we're talking about a genetic dictatorship where they will not only own our bodies and have Uh, literally lawful ownership on our bodies.

00:17:16.000 That's where they're going.

00:17:18.000 But they will genetically control us and control us through microchips. 0.95

00:17:21.000 That's where they want to go.

00:17:22.000 And if we're going to get pulled away into diversions of debates about this and debates about that, there's one debate at the moment until we've sorted this.

00:17:31.000 Why do they want to do A, B, C and D?

00:17:34.000 And that's the question we need to keep asking all the time to keep on top of where we're going.

00:17:40.000 And we know what they want.

00:17:41.000 They're so arrogant that they all write white papers on government health care, on the environment movement, on cap and trade.

00:17:48.000 They admit it's to shut down industry, bankrupt everyone, have a huge state that's the only thing that's funded, that literally absorbs humanity. 0.75

00:17:56.000 And begins accelerating their soft kill operations.

00:17:59.000 We know they've already been introducing poisons into our environment and into the vaccines and foods.

00:18:04.000 We've caught them.

00:18:04.000 We've got countless documents where they admit they're doing it.

00:18:07.000 Now they want to accelerate that up to a hot kill level like we've seen in areas of Africa. 0.94

00:18:13.000 And thank God you're out there exposing these people.

00:18:16.000 Well, you know, there are people that know there's a conspiracy.

00:18:20.000 There's people that know that there is a ridiculously few people who are pulling the strings of the world.

00:18:26.000 But we've still got a long way to go with a lot of people to fully understand the scale of what we're dealing with.

00:18:35.000 The rabbit hole goes so deep, it's staggering.

00:18:39.000 And we're not even We're dealing with just human entities.

00:18:43.000 We're dealing with non-human entities. 0.99

00:18:45.000 We're dealing with entities that operate outside the field of vision of what we call visible light, which our eyes can see and appears to be this world.

00:18:54.000 There are other worlds.

00:18:55.000 Well, David, I'll say this.

00:18:56.000 We're dealing with this one, and it's involving those two.

00:19:01.000 So this is really, really deep stuff that we're dealing with here, not just what appears to be men in dark suits sitting around a table deciding their next move.

00:19:10.000 Much bigger than that.

00:19:11.000 Well, no, I agree with you because I've studied the elite, and they believe they're in contact with entities.

00:19:17.000 I've been to Bohemian Grove, I've covered Skull and Bones, I've read the Pentagon's own writings.

00:19:22.000 They believe they are being given, every one of them, it says they're channeling things, that they're being directed at the highest levels.

00:19:30.000 At the mid-levels, it's hedonists, it's Satanists, it's people that want money and power.

00:19:34.000 At the top, these are very focused People working 18 hours a day and they believe they're working for an entity that I can only describe as the devil.

00:19:46.000 People can call it whatever they want.

00:19:48.000 David, stay there.

00:19:48.000 Let's look at some other contemporary issues and from that window expand and go down the rabbit hole from different angles.

00:19:55.000 We'll be back with David Icke.

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00:24:12.000 As we got into the border issue and how they're overrunning sovereign nations, because the globalists want to remake the world in their system.

00:24:20.000 So any culture, whether it's good or bad, they want it out of the way.

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00:24:25.000 This is a short segment.

00:24:26.000 Let's get into the oil spill.

00:24:29.000 David Icke, the oil spill.

00:24:30.000 What's your research on that?

00:24:32.000 Well, the appalling things happening in the Gulf of Mexico now are a classic example of the way the web, the Illuminati web, interfaces with different aspects of itself to create a coordinated policy and a coordinated agenda.

00:24:52.000 I mean, you've got Someone, for instance, like Peter D. Sutherland, who was non-executive chairman of BP until a few months ago.

00:25:00.000 He's also non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International.

00:25:03.000 He was the director of the World Trade Organization.

00:25:06.000 He was the director of...actually, the director general of the World Trade Organization. He was the director of the Bank of Scotland in the run-up to the period where it crashed in 2008 and had to be bailed out by the taxpayer.

00:25:19.000 He's been on the steering committee of the Bilderberg Group.

00:25:22.000 He's a chairman of the Trilateral Commission.

00:25:24.000 He's a chairman of the London School of Economics, one of the great Illuminati universities on the planet, created by the Fabian Society.

00:25:30.000 He's financial advisor to the Vatican, brought up in a Jesuit school.

00:25:34.000 The Jesuits, of course, are a major, major player in this global web.

00:25:38.000 He's been one of the major people in Europe pressing for more and more power for the European Union.

00:25:44.000 And while he was non-executive chairman of BP, You had a guy called Lord Brown, who got out before the stuff hit the fan over the Gulf of Mexico.

00:25:55.000 He was so appalling as chief executive of BP that Tony Blair described him as his favorite businessman.

00:26:03.000 So you can see how bad he was.

00:26:05.000 And it was Lord Brown who instigated the policy of BP of cutting safety and cutting all Yeah, they've got more violations in Houston alone.

00:26:16.000 I saw the number, it's like over a hundred times what other oil companies have combined, and they're the top fake environmentalist company that with Enron created the carbon tax scam with Al Gore.

00:26:27.000 Exactly, and this is how it all interfaces.

00:26:30.000 This is how the web works.

00:26:31.000 You see BP, but it's not just not just BP, BP's connected to Goldman Sachs, Goldman Sachs is connected to Halliburton, and so it goes on. - And don't forget Queenie, she owns a big part of it. - Yeah, Lord Brown was chief executive of BP when you had that massive explosion at the refinery in Texas City, which people of course were killed and another environmental disaster in so many ways.

00:26:55.000 And he instigated this BP policy, not because they were struggling for money, We must cut costs.

00:27:01.000 No.

00:27:01.000 Because he wanted to expand and expand the profits of BP.

00:27:05.000 And one way he could do it was to cut costs.

00:27:08.000 So he cut costs on safety, on checks, and all the rest of it.

00:27:13.000 And that was the sequence of events that eventually led to what happened in the gold Yeah, over a third.

00:27:19.000 Obama dumped his Vanguard stocks in it.

00:27:21.000 Again, as I mentioned with Peter D. Sutherland, selling 44% of its shares in BP in the run-up to what happened in the Gulf.

00:27:29.000 Tony Hayward, the chief executive of BP that followed Lord Brown, sold a lot of his shares in the run-up.

00:27:35.000 Over a third.

00:27:36.000 Obama dumped his Vanguard stocks in it.

00:27:38.000 They all dumped.

00:27:39.000 It's got so many red flags all over it that it would...

00:27:45.000 A, prior knowledge, and B, the thing was a disaster, not waiting to happen.

00:27:50.000 The disaster was made to happen.

00:27:53.000 And then you look at what happened after that, and so many mysteries kind of fade away when you know the story and what the goal is.

00:28:03.000 So the next mystery in all this is why do BP and the federal government clearly have no real interest in reacting to this disaster, to cleaning up the beaches, to doing what is necessary?

00:28:17.000 Why BP countries were turned away when they offered help?

00:28:20.000 It's because they want this disaster to be as big as possible.

00:28:24.000 A, yes, to offer solutions like the carbon tax and all the rest of it.

00:28:30.000 Now their climate change scam has been falling apart.

00:28:34.000 But also there is a war by this cabal against the United States.

00:28:38.000 They want to destroy the United States militarily.

00:28:41.000 They'll destroy it economically.

00:28:44.000 They want to destroy everything it stands for because that has to be brought under the heel of the global cabal if the world government is to have total power.

00:28:56.000 No more superpowers, otherwise you don't have total power.

00:28:58.000 Now, you've got the 10 regions, as the U.N. says, with the 10 global directors.

00:29:03.000 This has been on record since the 60s, which they're now moving towards.

00:29:06.000 And that's what's so amazing.

00:29:07.000 They use the U.S. 1.00

00:29:08.000 as their henchman, as their funding mechanism, while the U.S.

00:29:12.000 gets all the blame for the global imperial takeover.

00:29:16.000 And now, as they get ready to destroy us, they're moving towards devaluing the dollar.

00:29:20.000 The IMF, World Bank are criticizing our monetary systems.

00:29:23.000 The UN is posing as the savior with the global Cashless currency, so they use us for their dirty work and then flush us down the toilet when they're done.

00:29:32.000 Stay there, David Icke.

00:29:33.000 Quick break.

00:29:34.000 I want you to come back, segue out of the BP, into all these announcements that, okay, we are in a depression, but don't worry, the same bankers that engineered it have got a global government that'll take care of it all for you.

00:29:45.000 They've got a fix.

00:29:46.000 David Icke, straight ahead.

00:29:47.000 Stay with us.

00:29:50.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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00:33:11.000 We're going to talk to David about this later in the hour.

00:33:14.000 Reported that they've got body scanners, car scanners.

00:33:19.000 It showed people being forced to drive through x-rays that shoot through cars with gamma rays.

00:33:25.000 I mean, this makes This makes chest x-rays look tame in comparison.

00:33:31.000 Some of the units, the car is driven up and then it's scanned. 0.94

00:33:33.000 Others, they drive the car through it and I guess they tell the foolish troops to do it. 0.93

00:33:39.000 Oh, it's okay. 0.99

00:33:40.000 Go ahead and do it.

00:33:41.000 They're setting the precedent to literally microwave us in front of everyone.

00:33:46.000 Well, Watson did research, and he's got an amazing article here, New York National Guard involved in mass arrest of U.S.

00:33:52.000 citizens.

00:33:53.000 And we got links now to mainstream news in part two, how great it is that the Guard has arrested 2,000 citizens for petty crimes, including gun possession.

00:34:04.000 I mean, this is martial law.

00:34:06.000 New York National Guard involved in mass arrest of US citizens.

00:34:10.000 Troops assist in over 2,000 arrests last year alone as America sinks in a total martial law.

00:34:15.000 And the same thing's happening all over the country.

00:34:17.000 And that's why we saw the mayor of Schenectady a few months ago call for martial law in that little sleepy town.

00:34:23.000 So we're going back to David Icke in a minute.

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00:35:19.000 Martial law, police state, cyber security.

00:35:22.000 Now they're admitting censorship of the internet with David in a moment.

00:35:25.000 But David, segwaying from the oil, where do you think that's going?

00:35:28.000 A. And B. The media has now shifted in Europe, as you know, England and the U.S.

00:35:32.000 to saying, okay, it is a depression.

00:35:35.000 After telling us he's in a recovery, now it's a depression.

00:35:38.000 What do you see unfolding with that leading into a possible strike on Iran?

00:35:43.000 What do you see from studying the globalist behavior in the past, which is psychopathic and they do it in patterns, what do you see unfolding?

00:35:51.000 Well, on the Gulf, they want it to get as bad as possible so they can exploit it as much as possible with solutions to the problem they've created.

00:35:59.000 In terms of the economic situation, I've been saying since 2008 that there's a three-point plan here.

00:36:06.000 One was to crash the economy in 2008 so people could see there was a major problem.

00:36:13.000 then justifies.

00:36:14.000 It doesn't really, but in their efforts to justify it, they say it justifies.

00:36:19.000 A massive, a staggering, we still don't understand the scale of the transfer of wealth from the population to the banks and the elite that has gone on as a result of this bank bailout.

00:36:32.000 I was reading the other day an article about the fact that these toxic assets of these banks, which the taxpayer money was supposed to have been paid over to sort out, the banks still own the toxic assets.

00:36:46.000 But from what this article was saying, they don't have to appear on the balance sheet until they're sold.

00:36:52.000 So you've got a ticking time bomb there and you've got balance sheets that are being produced by banks that are absolutely nothing like the actual financial state of that bank.

00:37:04.000 But the second point in this three-stage plan that I was talking about since 2008 was to empty the coffers of governments in terms of reacting to the economic situation.

00:37:17.000 And we have reached that now.

00:37:18.000 I mean, what we're having in Britain But the taxes go up, so a larger percentage of the taxes goes directly to the bankers, who were the ones that created the $600 trillion, conservatively, in fake assets.

00:37:31.000 react to the incredible debt that they've been...

00:37:35.000 But the taxes go up.

00:37:36.000 So a larger percentage of the taxes goes directly to the bankers, who were the ones that created the $600 trillion, conservatively, in fake assets.

00:37:46.000 And they won't tell Congress or Parliament where the money went.

00:37:50.000 Exactly.

00:37:51.000 The same is happening over here in Europe.

00:37:54.000 In Britain, during the Brown Labour government that was replaced recently, this amazing transfer of wealth went from taxpayers to the banking system and to the cabal network in general.

00:38:10.000 And now, unbelievable levels of cuts in public expenditure are being instigated because they say we're in so much trouble because of the debt.

00:38:20.000 Now, wait for this, mate.

00:38:22.000 I talked about earlier about everything connecting to everything else.

00:38:26.000 The David Cameron government That has replaced the Brown Labour government, has appointed someone to oversee where these savage cuts of billions and billions of pounds are going to be made that are going to fundamentally affect the lives of everyone in this country.

00:38:44.000 Guess who they've appointed?

00:38:46.000 Lord Brown, former chief executive of BP, who was responsible for the decisions that led up eventually to the Gulf oil disaster.

00:38:56.000 Well that's like having all these former Goldman Sachs people running every position in the federal government, getting the bailout money and then giving it to Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan.

00:39:09.000 I mean it is a new level of crime and now in the U.S.

00:39:13.000 The Federal Reserve expansion in powers.

00:39:16.000 They're being given a new secret office with unlimited funds to quote take over any area of the economy they wish.

00:39:23.000 So they're being given dictatorial power right now and the same thing's being done in Greece and everywhere else.

00:39:29.000 This is their global coup d'etat.

00:39:31.000 They're going for it all and then that segues into the UN and the IMF announcing we need to start phasing out all the currencies and going to an SDR.

00:39:42.000 Basket.

00:39:43.000 And we need a global government that you pay your carbon taxes to to finance this.

00:39:48.000 And who are the biggest investors in carbon credits?

00:39:51.000 Well, it's Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, BP, and a handful of others.

00:39:55.000 It's always the same inner cabal.

00:39:57.000 Exactly, and you've got this guy in America who was the great new messiah, Obama, who, if anything, is worse than Bush in that whole period because it's speeding up now.

00:40:10.000 I mean, this man is not even subtle.

00:40:13.000 He's just agreeing to everything necessary to allow this to speed up and speed up and speed up.

00:40:20.000 And I say this to people, you know.

00:40:22.000 All that's happening now was predicted a long, long time ago.

00:40:27.000 Not because of people sitting in darkened rooms, smoking something and coming to some conclusions, but from hard research, from documents, from written material saying what these people were planning to do and it's unfolding now.

00:40:42.000 It wasn't prophecy, it was research.

00:40:45.000 Now we have to then decide Where do we draw the line here?

00:40:49.000 We didn't draw it when it was first pointed out because, oh, it's just conspiracy theorists.

00:40:54.000 Well, are we going to draw it now?

00:40:55.000 Or are we going to draw it a few months down the road when it's even worse?

00:40:59.000 A year or two down the road when what's happening today will be nothing compared with then?

00:41:05.000 When are we going to draw the line?

00:41:07.000 There's nothing, nothing in anybody's life, I don't care who they are, I don't care where they are, there's nothing more important in anybody's life I'm focusing on what is going on and we coming together as a population irrespective of race, religion, color, creed, income bracket and saying what are we going to do together to stop this because at the moment we have got a tail actually at the core a tiny tail wagging a massive dog and

00:41:37.000 Unless we start focusing on this and cut out the diversions that are designed to stop us focusing on this, then it's just going to get worse.

00:41:45.000 But the power is still in our hands.

00:41:48.000 There are so many of us and so few of those in full knowledge who are actually manipulating us.

00:41:54.000 Come on, wake up!

00:41:56.000 Do something!

00:41:57.000 There's never nothing that we can do.

00:42:00.000 What can I do?

00:42:03.000 Sit down.

00:42:03.000 How can you make a contribution to this?

00:42:05.000 How can you communicate this information?

00:42:07.000 Even if it's calling into a radio show in the mainstream or something and just saying this is going on, go to this website, go to this radio program.

00:42:15.000 They'll tell you what's going on.

00:42:17.000 There's nothing that...

00:42:19.000 There's already a huge awakening happening.

00:42:21.000 We've got to accelerate it because not only is that little tail wagging this giant dog, they're going to pose with their false solutions to the crisis they created.

00:42:32.000 That's their methodology, as you know.

00:42:35.000 Problem, reaction, solution to bring us deeper under their control.

00:42:38.000 Unless we're there every step of the way going, you're the crooks, you're the social engineers, you're the controllers, you're the one that did this. 0.94

00:42:46.000 How asinine to give the Federal Reserve that engineered this even more power. 0.87

00:42:50.000 How asinine to give the Bank of England who engineered this on record more power. 0.87

00:42:54.000 Look at your connections. 0.85

00:42:55.000 Look at how you're involved in this.

00:42:57.000 Look at what you've done.

00:42:58.000 We've got to be there.

00:42:59.000 That's why they want to shut down the internet, because they're panicked.

00:43:02.000 Now let's talk about that.

00:43:03.000 Chinese net style censorship now coming to Australia, coming to New Zealand, coming to Italy, coming to France.

00:43:09.000 Open announcements in our news that yes, it's going to be more draconian, but to keep you safe, because Al Qaeda is about to shut the internet down.

00:43:16.000 So we've got to have the power to shut it down to save it.

00:43:18.000 We're going to track everything you do.

00:43:20.000 We're going to block what websites you can visit.

00:43:22.000 AlreadyInfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com are already censored on the free broadband in many cities in Europe.

00:43:29.000 We've confirmed that.

00:43:30.000 The government here, the FCC, saying they're going to take it over.

00:43:33.000 Cass Sunstein saying he's going to censor it.

00:43:35.000 There's no doubt that line in the sand.

00:43:39.000 If we don't stand up against tyrants, is whatever we'll put up with, as Thomas Jefferson said, they aren't going to push it to the limit.

00:43:45.000 And so again, showing that we have power, David, doesn't that indicate that now they are moving against the web, even though that exposes them because they realize that there is an accelerated awakening happening?

00:43:58.000 Well, let me give you an example, just a simple example, which is an example that can be expressed globally.

00:44:10.000 And it's now mainstream news in England, I mean for those that just tuned in, that they've actually got quotas before a baby's even born and they admit they trumpet up.

00:44:20.000 These are children snatchers.

00:44:21.000 over the world in Britain on the basis of fake...

00:44:27.000 And it's now mainstream news in England, I mean, for those that just tuned in, that they've actually got quotas before a baby's even born, and they admit they trump it up.

00:44:36.000 These are children's snatchers.

00:44:38.000 They are. 0.87

00:44:39.000 They're stealing children.

00:44:40.000 At least in parts of America, like California, I think it's all over America, there are federal financial incentives for social services to take more and more children from their parents.

00:44:53.000 But the point I'm making here is that there's a lady named Maureen Spallack in Liverpool in England, and she had her children stolen, three of them, years ago now, and they were given away to foster parents by the social services.

00:45:07.000 And in the years since, the Liverpool Police and Social Services have run a vendetta against this woman as she tries to get her children back.

00:45:15.000 She was actually arrested.

00:45:17.000 This is just one example.

00:45:18.000 I could list a number of outrageous things that happened.

00:45:22.000 She was arrested and taken to court for sending a birthday card to one of the children that the state stole.

00:45:30.000 The other day, a few days ago, The Liverpool Police picked her up again for sending a text message to someone.

00:45:38.000 They put her in jail in Liverpool.

00:45:43.000 And the reason that the family courts that decide all this are held in secret is not to protect the children, as they claim, it's to protect the system and the Satanists and the pedophiles from stealing the children through social services.

00:45:58.000 The point I'm leading to, however, is this.

00:46:01.000 I put on my website, when I heard about this, how gutless, disgusting, and pathetic the Liverpool police were, and a number for Liverpool police to let people say what they thought about what they were doing to this woman.

00:46:15.000 She was in custody at the time.

00:46:16.000 And a few hours later, they let this lady go, and they dropped the charges because their phone system crashed So many people rang in to complain of what they were doing to this lady that their whole phone system crashed.

00:46:31.000 They couldn't keep their child kidnapping going so they said open the phones up we got more kids to grab but it's actually come out in the Telegraph and it's actually come out here in the U.S.

00:46:40.000 that they have quotas on what color hair, eyes, that before a mother has a child, they're already planning the fake charges. 0.93

00:46:49.000 And it's come out over and over again that so many of the CPS workers are pedophiles because they can get away with everything. 0.96

00:46:57.000 They're pedophiles and they're Satanists. 0.96

00:46:59.000 Not all of them, nothing like all of them, but the people that run the show invariably are. 0.96

00:47:03.000 I've been researching this for decades.

00:47:04.000 No, I mean, it's in the newspaper every day that they catch top, top CPS workers.

00:47:08.000 The short point is, though, Alex, that when people, the public, phoned this police station in large numbers and said, this is disgusting, we're not having it.

00:47:18.000 In other words, the secrecy and the shadow level that they do this on was taken away.

00:47:24.000 This lady was released and the charges were dropped. 1.00

00:47:28.000 We have the power.

00:47:30.000 They're terrified of the public.

00:47:32.000 That's why they're arming against us.

00:47:34.000 That's why they're surveilling.

00:47:35.000 That's why they're admitting they're surveilling now, because they know they've committed crimes.

00:47:40.000 They know they're run by crooks, and they are scared.

00:47:42.000 Yes, but what we have to do is understand our power to change this.

00:47:49.000 You know, we're talking about a handful of people in full knowledge manipulating the lives of billions.

00:47:55.000 What are we doing?

00:47:57.000 Well, that's why you've written the new book, uh, Mankind Get Off Your Knees.

00:48:01.000 Yeah, Human Race Get Off Your Knees, it's called. 1.00

00:48:03.000 It's just out and the subtitle is The Lion Sleeps No More because within us is a lion.

00:48:10.000 It is the real human being being suppressed by the human being that has been programmed to think it has no power.

00:48:21.000 The human being to fear authority, to fear the consequences of And we need the police and the military and others who are starting to wake up to realize you're compartmentalized as well.

00:48:43.000 The globalists have genetically modified the GMO food to sterilize and give you cancer.

00:48:48.000 They add the chemicals of the water to sterilize you and give you cancer.

00:48:50.000 We have all the government documents we've covered.

00:48:53.000 Even Fox News reported yesterday that Maryland has banned the senol A that they're putting in the plastic products that does sterilize men.

00:49:02.000 I mean, the White House science czar admits they're doing this.

00:49:05.000 You are under attack, too.

00:49:06.000 And, David, you've talked about compartmentalization.

00:49:10.000 We need to get the police and military to realize, even if they consciously see themselves as on the winning team and part of the New World Order, they're not.

00:49:18.000 They are seen by the New World Order as an even bigger enemy than the general public in the globalist documents we've gotten.

00:49:26.000 This is a point I think is very important to stress to those in uniform and to those in the dark suits in government who are serving this system while not actually instigating it, they're serving it.

00:49:38.000 You have no power.

00:49:41.000 I don't care if you're in the military, I don't care if you've got how many stars on your uniform, I don't care what level of the police force you're in, I don't care if you're doing roadblocks, I don't care if If you're pulling people off the street, I don't care what you're doing.

00:49:58.000 You have no power.

00:50:01.000 Your uniform has the power.

00:50:04.000 Take your uniform off, okay?

00:50:06.000 Put it in the wardrobe.

00:50:08.000 Where's your power?

00:50:09.000 Go and get another job without that uniform.

00:50:12.000 Where's your power?

00:50:13.000 You have no power.

00:50:16.000 You are employed to animate that uniform, which is an extension of the state.

00:50:22.000 And that's all you are, and therefore you are expendable.

00:50:25.000 While you give your soul away, while you give your mind away, while you give your morals and decency away, advancing this fascist dictatorship, you will be okay with the fascists that you're serving.

00:50:41.000 But your children and your grandchildren have to live in the world you are creating.

00:50:47.000 And one day you're going to have to understand that, and I don't envy you that moment, because it's going to be horrific when it dawns upon you the world that you've actually created.

00:50:56.000 The people in uniform and the dark suits that administer the system while not being the originators of it, they have to start breaking ranks, okay?

00:51:05.000 Get some backbone, open your mind, look at what's going on, and get some frickin' backbone before you administer and impose and enforce a world that will be grotesque for your children and grandchildren.

00:51:21.000 In fact, not even that, for yourself. 0.88

00:51:23.000 Yeah, you're not going to have to wait now for your kids to be destroyed.

00:51:26.000 No, no, you're not, absolutely.

00:51:27.000 And David, very well said there.

00:51:30.000 I want to try to keep you five minutes into the next hour before Sheriff Richard Mack so we have as much time as possible to go over issues.

00:51:37.000 But I really do see the denial lifting.

00:51:40.000 People, a lot of them don't have even a partial view of what's going on, but they know something's wrong.

00:51:45.000 And that's why I challenge people to don't expect you're going to save the world by yourself or overnight.

00:51:51.000 Hollywood pushes that image of Arnold Schwarzenegger or John Wayne saving everybody.

00:51:55.000 And if people always look to me, they look to you, others, you know, Ron Paul, you've got to save us.

00:51:59.000 No, it's that act of defiance, that act of awakening, that act of courage.

00:52:04.000 Resistance is victory, and it's understanding the enemy, and it's everybody speaking out.

00:52:08.000 You know, one little cricket isn't very loud, but you get a field of those, it is a deafening roar, and we're a lot bigger and more powerful than a cricket, and we've all just got to do little things every day.

00:52:21.000 And realize what's going on and this system will come to a halt and they know that and they are desperate to throw us into a crisis to make themselves matter, to make us beach ourselves on their government, on their corporate structure and so many people within their system are starting to defect.

00:52:39.000 So many people that have become powerful off their system call me, contact me, talk to me off record, and they say, I wish I would have known this.

00:52:46.000 So many people that even work for the system are compartmentalized, and now through my broadcast, your work, and others, they can finally see the larger paradigm around them from the cog that they filled.

00:52:58.000 And so by getting that full-spectrum analysis, they can then see the full-spectrum dominance that the globalists have built.

00:53:05.000 I mean, Rothkopf, who we had on the show who wrote Superclass, I've got two words to say.

00:53:09.000 Less than 6,000 people that rule the world and only 20 families that they serve.

00:53:15.000 So this is now admitted publicly.

00:53:17.000 And we can defeat these people.

00:53:20.000 We must defeat these people.

00:53:21.000 I've got two words to say.

00:53:24.000 Indra Arneson, who's come out and done so much great work exposing what BP are doing in the Gulf of Mexico and how the whole cleanup stuff is a sham, how the fishermen and other people are being exploited and treated appallingly.

00:53:41.000 Now they've lost their way of life.

00:53:43.000 They have to surge BP.

00:53:45.000 And BP's not sending them checks.

00:53:49.000 And if they arrest her, it's gonna backfire.

00:53:51.000 A few days ago, a week or so ago, she was a mother.

00:53:56.000 And now she's standing up to these people and doing a magnificent job.

00:54:00.000 And anybody can do it.

00:54:02.000 It's just...

00:54:03.000 And if they arrest her, it's going to backfire.

00:54:05.000 And if they arrest her, it's going to backfire.

00:54:07.000 Yeah, of course.

00:54:09.000 And, you know, no one said it was going to be easy.

00:54:12.000 I mean, this is the question.

00:54:13.000 Are we going to draw the line now, Alex, and take the challenges and sacrifices that that takes to stay here and no further?

00:54:22.000 Or are we going to wait a bit longer until they get more and more control and try to do it then, when this agenda is further down the road than it is now?

00:54:31.000 Or then a bit further, and then when are we actually going to say enough?

00:54:35.000 You know?

00:54:36.000 Because, you know, it's like that famous phrase by the Christian pastor after Nazi Germany.

00:54:43.000 First they came for the Jews and I was not a Jew so I did nothing. 1.00

00:54:46.000 Then they came for the trade unionists, I was not a trade unionist so I did nothing.

00:54:49.000 Then they came for the communists, I was not a communist so I did nothing.

00:54:53.000 You know, this is about all of us.

00:54:54.000 It's not about one group of people, one income bracket, one race, one religion.

00:55:00.000 The fault lines for engineered divide and rule.

00:55:03.000 The target is all of us.

00:55:05.000 So all of us need to come together, put our hands together, put our minds together and say here and no further.

00:55:12.000 When we stop cooperating with the system, the system cannot operate.

00:55:17.000 They cannot operate the system without our acquiescence.

00:55:20.000 We must stop acquiescing and we must do it now.

00:55:23.000 Human race, get off your knees. 1.00

00:55:24.000 We have been there for long enough. 0.95

00:55:26.000 No more.

00:55:28.000 Well, the human race is getting up off its knees and that's why the system is howling with anger.

00:55:35.000 Let's get into the police state and the minutes we've got left, David, and I want to hold you five over if you can do it.

00:55:40.000 Okay.

00:55:41.000 But, I mean, the police state, it's even shocking me how fast they're moving.

00:55:46.000 We have now discovered just today, this is unbelievably important news, That all over the country, not just New York, but Illinois, you name it, the military, Marines, Army, National Guard are arresting citizens nationwide with police.

00:56:00.000 And this has been going on for several years and I wasn't even aware.

00:56:04.000 Now they're putting it out on TV like it's a good thing.

00:56:06.000 I mean, again, I didn't even know the magnitude, David.

00:56:10.000 This is incredible.

00:56:12.000 Yeah, and it is what I call over the years the totalitarian tiptoe, where you're at A and you know you're going to Z. But if you go in too big a leap, then people look up and say, what's going on?

00:56:23.000 Because the change in your society is so blatantly obvious.

00:56:28.000 So they do it in steps.

00:56:30.000 But of course, the nearer they get to the goal, the steps get quicker and quicker because it's a simple equation.

00:56:35.000 The more you centralize power, the more power you then have to centralize even quicker.

00:56:40.000 And that's why the momentum of centralization and dictatorship gets faster and faster.

00:56:47.000 Because the more power you have, the quicker you can push it on.

00:56:49.000 The more power you have, the quicker you can push it on.

00:56:52.000 And this is why we've reached the point now where they've Centralize so much power in so many areas of our lives that they can now push this whole agenda on across a great spectrum of subjects and areas of our society.

00:57:04.000 And they use every new crisis as a way to say, no media, no local officials, no one's allowed, you're not getting your checks for the fishing we've shut down, you're not allowed to have a gun, you're not allowed to protect yourself, and we're like, where's the law?

00:57:19.000 And they said, we don't need any stinking law. 1.00

00:57:22.000 Yeah, what they've done in a series of steps getting faster and faster is take away the checks and balances, the checks and balances, the checks and balances.

00:57:30.000 They did it most blatantly with the checks and balances they took away to stop the free-for-all in the financial markets, the financial industry.

00:57:40.000 What that led to and every single time one of these checks and balances has been Suggested to be taken away every time the people that could have stood up to that and thought well You know I'm not even can't be bothered all this I have no power to do that What can I do then they have played a part in where we've reached now, so can we learn from that please and I?

00:58:02.000 say, okay, we've made mistakes in the past when we didn't stand up to what we should have stood up to, and so we better learn from those mistakes now and start standing up here.

00:58:11.000 Because if we don't, then it's going to be a lot more difficult down the road.

00:58:14.000 David Icke is our guest.

00:58:18.000 We're going to do five more minutes with him and then Sheriff Richard Maxx coming on and I've got a few other key quick questions for David that the time with him has sure gone fast.

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00:59:57.000 Alright, we're in the final hour.

01:00:07.000 We've got Sheriff Richard Mack coming up after this break, but David Icke is our guest for another five minutes.

01:00:14.000 During the break, I said, what do you think is most important to finish off with?

01:00:16.000 And he said, Albert Pike's letter.

01:00:18.000 And I've read his book, Morals and Dogma.

01:00:22.000 Of course, this letter is reported to be at the British Naval Museum.

01:00:26.000 He was a Confederate general, the founder of the Klan. 0.68

01:00:29.000 A British agent trying to break up the U.S.

01:00:31.000 with the Civil War.

01:00:33.000 And all of that's been confirmed.

01:00:34.000 But this letter is just amazing, the way it predicted everything they've done.

01:00:37.000 So go over some of that letter, the three phases, in the last five minutes.

01:00:40.000 David, go ahead.

01:00:41.000 Well, Albert Pike, who of course was a massive, massive Freemason, an absolute Freemasonic god.

01:00:49.000 Of course, his statue is in Washington, D.C., right next to Washington, D.C.

01:00:55.000 police headquarters, which is quite appropriate, I would say.

01:00:57.000 We're dealing with Freemasonry. 1.00

01:00:59.000 And it's alleged that he wrote this letter to a guy called Mazzini, a very infamous Illuminati operative, and he predicted in this letter three world wars that were coming.

01:01:10.000 It was alleged to have been sent or written in 1871.

01:01:16.000 And the First World War, he talks about the overthrow of the Tsars in Russia and making the country a fortress of atheist communism, etc.

01:01:27.000 He talks about bringing the British and Germanic empires into the war.

01:01:33.000 The Second World War must be fermented by taking advantage of the differences between the fascist and the political Zionists and talks about things that happened then. 0.57

01:01:44.000 But the point that it leads to is the Third World War, which really, I mean, I've been saying for years, that's the plan, which it is. 0.99

01:01:52.000 And the description in the letter of the Third World War is absolutely describing the period we're going through now.

01:02:02.000 The Third World War must be fermented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the agenteur of the Illuminati between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Islamic world. 0.85

01:02:13.000 The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam, the Muslim-Arabic world, and political Zionism, the State of Israel, mutually destroy each other. 0.99

01:02:21.000 Meanwhile, the other nations, once more divided on this issue, will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual, and economic exhaustion. 0.82

01:02:30.000 We shall unleash the nihilists and atheists. 1.00

01:02:33.000 We shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm, which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

01:02:44.000 Then everywhere the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal but without knowing where to render its anxious for an ideal but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out into the public

01:03:11.000 This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement, which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.

01:03:19.000 And he talks about the fact that they're going to make, in effect, the global society so full of turmoil, so full of upheaval, That the people will turn to the few, the cabal, and say, save us from it.

01:03:34.000 And the cabal will then say, well, to do that we must do this.

01:03:38.000 And we know in 1919, these are confirmed, Lord Milner repeated it about creating a Germanic super state to start a new war.

01:03:46.000 And we know they used World War I for the League of Nations.

01:03:48.000 We have the Carnegie documents about World War II being engineered.

01:03:52.000 I mean, this is real.

01:03:54.000 Yeah, I mean, Milner was the head of a secret society in London called the Round Table, which spawned the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations, the Royal Institute of International Affairs.

01:04:06.000 It spawned, of course, the Club of Rome, the Bilderberg Group eventually.

01:04:10.000 And David, we're almost out of time.

01:04:12.000 Do you agree?

01:04:13.000 House of Rothschild is at the absolute center of this in the human world, if you like.

01:04:20.000 And Dave, we're almost out of time.

01:04:21.000 You've agreed to come back on sooner rather than later.

01:04:24.000 I'd like to get you on the next month because a quickening is happening.

01:04:26.000 But do you agree, briefly, we are on the cusp of what could be World War III?

01:04:30.000 They are pushing us in that direction.

01:04:32.000 Oh, exactly.

01:04:33.000 That's always been the plan.

01:04:35.000 Three world wars to change the world to a global fascist dictatorship.

01:04:40.000 We do not have to play their game.

01:04:42.000 It's time to say no.

01:04:45.000 David, amazing.

01:04:45.000 No more.

01:04:46.000 I look forward to speaking to you in the near future.

01:04:48.000 Let me say bye to you during this break.

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01:08:04.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we are back.

01:08:34.000 Thank you so much for joining us today.

01:08:37.000 And we've got here in the final 52 minutes of this radio broadcast, we have Sheriff Richard Mack, author, speaker, former sheriff.

01:08:45.000 Richard Mack has served in a wide variety of roles over the course of his nearly 20-year career in law enforcement, which began in Provo, Utah.

01:08:53.000 Mack began his career with the Provo Police Department.

01:08:56.000 And of course, he then became a sheriff.

01:08:59.000 He, of course, was involved in a famous Supreme Court case defending the Second Amendment.

01:09:05.000 And now he's traveling all over the country in high demand, educating people about the 10th Amendment, the 11th Amendment, the 9th Amendment, the power of states' rights, and the fact that the legislature creates the county.

01:09:20.000 Cities are then chartered under the state.

01:09:22.000 We have the cities trying to take over the states now. 0.95

01:09:28.000 I mean, that's basically what's happening.

01:09:31.000 You have cities trying to take over the counties, which is an extension of the state.

01:09:35.000 And so this is completely backwards.

01:09:37.000 It's just like globalists have come into Austin and they have financed Austin raising a $2.6 billion tax, doubling our energy cost in the next three years.

01:09:47.000 They're seizing Mopac to put toll roads on it.

01:09:49.000 Admittedly illegal.

01:09:50.000 It's an existing road.

01:09:52.000 But they don't care.

01:09:53.000 I mean, because the cities aren't following the 10th Amendment.

01:09:57.000 They have been taken over just like the federal government's been taken over.

01:10:00.000 So we've got to head them off at the pass, taking our counties And our state's back.

01:10:05.000 So it's not just 10th Amendment nullification of unconstitutional federal laws and taxes that's moving forward.

01:10:11.000 And you're seeing that, of course, with Arizona saying they're going to defend the border down there.

01:10:15.000 But it's expanding to now the county sheriffs as well.

01:10:20.000 And for over a decade, Sheriff Richard Mack has been exposing this.

01:10:23.000 He also has a book on the subject.

01:10:25.000 But Sheriff, before we go any further and get into that, talk about the state of the Second Amendment and for folks that aren't aware of it.

01:10:33.000 Your Supreme Court case and your take on what the Supreme Court ruled on a few weeks ago.

01:10:41.000 Good to have you here with us.

01:10:42.000 Well, thanks Alex.

01:10:43.000 It's always great to be with you and I appreciate you giving me some time today.

01:10:48.000 Man, yes, I am really busy.

01:10:50.000 I'll be in Fresno this weekend and on Monday I go to Amarillo.

01:10:56.000 And we're going to have several sheriffs there, and I'm teaching my Constitution class for peace officers there to public and peace officers alike, and I'm doing that all across the country.

01:11:09.000 And I really do feel that the title of my book, The County Sheriff, America's Last Hope, really basically tells it all.

01:11:18.000 That's a state sovereignty issue.

01:11:20.000 Arizona is now exemplifying the power of state sovereignty.

01:11:25.000 It is the only answer left.

01:11:27.000 I don't see any other recourse for the states or for personal freedom other than states standing against the incursions of the federal government.

01:11:38.000 Sheriff, I want to get to that in a moment, but I want to go back first to your history for folks who may not know who you are.

01:11:44.000 We're on a lot of new stations since you were last on with us.

01:11:47.000 You know, kind of talk about your awakening so other officers can, you know, basically see it from that perspective.

01:11:53.000 And then let's get into your Supreme Court case and where you see the Second Amendment being.

01:11:58.000 Then we'll spend the rest of the hour on the states' rights movement.

01:12:01.000 All right.

01:12:01.000 Well, fantastic.

01:12:03.000 Well, when I was elected sheriff here in southern Arizona, it was at Graham County back in 1988.

01:12:09.000 Then I was re-elected in 1992.

01:12:12.000 And then the Brady Bill came out in 19, uh, well it was signed into law by Bill Clinton at the end of 1993, and it went into effect February of 1994.

01:12:23.000 And, uh, the key, uh, part of that whole thing is, is that there was a component within the Brady Bill that required local officials, and it was in most cases the sheriff, to conduct background checks on citizens before they could buy a gun.

01:12:40.000 So we're being forced Under a threat of arrest.

01:12:44.000 There was no money attached to this, Alex, as you'll recall.

01:12:48.000 But there was a threat of arrest if we failed to comply.

01:12:51.000 So this is the first time in U.S.

01:12:54.000 history that the United States Congress wished to compel and commandeer the Office of the Sheriff for federal bidding.

01:13:03.000 So this is the picture.

01:13:04.000 This is the perspective.

01:13:06.000 Local officials elected by, for, and of the people to serve their needs and to serve their constitutional rights are now being, uh, dragooned, as one of the judges called it.

01:13:20.000 We're now being dragooned into federal service and forced to violate our oath of office and to violate the rights of our citizens to keep and bear arms.

01:13:30.000 And if we don't do it, they threaten to arrest us.

01:13:33.000 You're being pressed into service.

01:13:36.000 You're being literally shanghaied, enslaved, drug on to the federal reservation with an unconstitutional law.

01:13:44.000 Thank God it's, you know, to some extent been thrown out.

01:13:47.000 Right.

01:13:47.000 But still there, you know, some remnants.

01:13:50.000 I mean, this is amazing that this is going on.

01:13:52.000 And it's an unfunded mandate.

01:13:54.000 It's literally indentured servitude.

01:13:56.000 I mean, there's so many issues here.

01:13:58.000 Continue.

01:14:00.000 Well, and it's funny that you mention indentured servitude because I actually filed on the 13th Amendment, which was, you know, just what you said, unlawful servitude.

01:14:13.000 Yes.

01:14:13.000 And to the federal government.

01:14:15.000 And the federal government cannot tell your sheriff what to do.

01:14:18.000 There is no one, not the EPA, not the FBI, not the president of the United States, and I don't care who the president is.

01:14:25.000 I don't care if it's George Washington himself.

01:14:28.000 He has no authority to tell your sheriff or your local officials what to do.

01:14:33.000 That's why they usually try to provide everybody.

01:14:34.000 That's the whole point of the states.

01:14:37.000 And if we allow the feds to tell us what size toilet we can have and what our kids can eat and what the sheriff can do I mean why even have states?

01:14:37.000 Well exactly!

01:14:45.000 Exactly.

01:14:46.000 That's a key point.

01:14:48.000 And so now the states can't even control their own land or their own resources.

01:14:53.000 In fact, Arizona, Nevada, and Utah are all about 85% owned by the federal government.

01:14:58.000 My county of Graham County, Arizona is 95% owned by the federal government.

01:15:02.000 I wonder when we're going to wake up and say, you know, this isn't Arizona.

01:15:06.000 We're federal enclave number 48 because we were the 48th state.

01:15:12.000 It's time that the governors of every state tell the federal government to get out.

01:15:16.000 And my case can prove it.

01:15:17.000 Now, what I did is I said, look, I'm not going to go along. 0.98

01:15:23.000 There's no way that I'm going to violate my oath for the federal government, for the Clinton administration, for this stupid thing called the Brady Bill. 0.74

01:15:30.000 And so I was the first sheriff in the United States to file a lawsuit against my own government. 0.70

01:15:36.000 And, uh, the decision was just between me and my wife and the Lord.

01:15:40.000 That was all it was.

01:15:41.000 And the next day, uh, the historical perspective of this is that I called the NRA.

01:15:46.000 I had no place else to go.

01:15:48.000 I wasn't a member of anything.

01:15:49.000 I wasn't a member of the NRA.

01:15:51.000 I'm still not today.

01:15:52.000 But I called them and I said, what can I do to stop this?

01:15:55.000 And they said, uh, we've already been working on this case, and we needed a sheriff to call so we could have standing.

01:16:02.000 And I said, well, uh, let's do it.

01:16:03.000 I want my own lawyer, though, and they recommended a lawyer for me that I hired personally out here in Arizona by the name of Dave Hardy.

01:16:11.000 He worked with the NRA lawyers, and we got this thing filed the very day the Brady Bill took effect on February 28, 1994.

01:16:19.000 Then some other sheriffs joined the case, and there was only five or six that came in.

01:16:25.000 Sheriff Prince from Montana and I ended up at the United States Supreme Court in December of 1996, and on June 27, 1997, the United States Supreme Court ruled that the Brady Bill was indeed unconstitutional, that the federal government cannot tell the states what to do, that they cannot, and this is in the ruling itself, Let me tell you what this is.

01:16:49.000 So they indentured the gun dealers instead, and it should be thrown out on that.

01:16:53.000 But the point is, you took action, you sued, you got involved.

01:16:57.000 Americans want to know what solutions are.

01:16:59.000 Everybody just starts standing up to the feds.

01:17:02.000 We'll win, lose, we'll draw.

01:17:03.000 But we know if we lay down, we're going to lose.

01:17:05.000 Go ahead.

01:17:06.000 Well, that's right.

01:17:07.000 And listen to this.

01:17:09.000 I mean, this was so well hidden from the public.

01:17:11.000 And Bill Clinton, May the media go along with him in making sure that the citizens of this country never heard what this decision really did.

01:17:21.000 Now, listen to this.

01:17:22.000 This is the order of the court.

01:17:24.000 The federal government may neither issue directives requiring the states even to address particular problems.

01:17:32.000 Nor command the state's officers or those of their political subdivisions, and you just addressed what those are, cities and counties, to administer or enforce a federal regulatory program.

01:17:50.000 Such commands are fundamentally incompatible with our constitutional system of dual sovereignty.

01:17:56.000 And what does that say?

01:17:57.000 That's a Supreme Court ruling that you never hear about.

01:18:00.000 What does that say for cap-and-trade?

01:18:02.000 What does that say with the feds showing up on shore in Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, now Texas, telling county commissioners and sheriffs they can't be on the beach?

01:18:12.000 Some little BP goon.

01:18:14.000 I mean, that's why this stuff's important.

01:18:17.000 I mean, that's what the 11th Amendment says.

01:18:19.000 I mean, you have foreign powers coming by off Presidents and Congress.

01:18:23.000 We've got to have state rights so they can't have BP.

01:18:26.000 I mean, what's next?

01:18:27.000 Is BP going to tell us to move out of our house?

01:18:29.000 They're going to move in?

01:18:30.000 Next, we've got to give our daughters to BP? 1.00

01:18:32.000 Like, you know, prima nocte 600 years ago in England?

01:18:36.000 Yeah, prima nocte was, uh, yeah, you're starting to wonder because they're sure raping our land all the time. 0.90

01:18:42.000 Now, it also says a lot about nationalized socialistic healthcare, Alex, as you well know.

01:18:49.000 Because if the states cannot be forced to participate in a federal regulatory program, then we have 30 states suing right now that don't need to sue at all.

01:18:58.000 All they need to do is ask for summary judgment based on our case.

01:19:04.000 This case already proves that nationalized, socialistic healthcare is unconstitutional, and the states do not have to go along.

01:19:13.000 But the Romans knew that roads were key to controlling areas.

01:19:17.000 That's why all roads led to Rome in the old world 2,000 plus years ago.

01:19:21.000 That's why they brought in NAFTA superhighways and the federal highways. 0.98

01:19:25.000 Now they can tax and control those and control the communities.

01:19:28.000 They take our tax money, send it to Washington, Then build the roads.

01:19:33.000 It's incredible.

01:19:33.000 Sheriff Mack, amazing.

01:19:34.000 That's why I wanted to go over that key Supreme Court ruling that you got to show the power of the individual, the power of the ruling, and to illustrate the 10th Amendment.

01:19:43.000 Now we're going to come back and talk about state powers with the borders and everything else, and not just to take over the legislatures, that's our right and duty, but the Sheriff's Department, straight ahead with an American hero, Richard Mack.

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01:24:24.000 Sheriff Richard Mack is our guest until the end of the transmission.

01:24:27.000 Coming up here in about 35 minutes.

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01:25:05.000 The fact that the feds are doing this is treason by every measurement.

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01:25:25.000 All right, Sheriff Mack, this is a short segment, but you've got the floor.

01:25:29.000 Let's break down your metamorphosis, your awakening to the 10th Amendment, and that leading you now to be one of the main leaders really carrying the torch of freedom and having people rediscover the power of the state and particularly the sheriff, another key battlefront that we're on.

01:25:52.000 Yeah, it is that. .

01:25:55.000 Like I say, I think it's our only hope left.

01:25:58.000 Now, I'm reading from a little pocket-sized brief of the case.

01:26:04.000 And if anybody would like to get that, it's called the Victory for State Sovereignty, the Mack Prince vs. USA case, and it's available at my website, and it's sheriffmack.com.

01:26:15.000 You can also get the book, The County Sheriff America's Last Hope, which everyone should have a copy of both of these.

01:26:22.000 This little booklet that I have in my hand that I'm reviewing with you right now regarding this case, the most powerful And monumental 10th Amendment decision in the history of our country.

01:26:34.000 This was all about states' rights.

01:26:35.000 It talks about the EPA being unconstitutional.

01:26:39.000 It talks about the states not being puppets of the ventriloquist Congress.

01:26:44.000 It talks about the supremacy clause.

01:26:46.000 And that is a key component of this whole thing.

01:26:49.000 Because Barack Obama is saying he wants to sue Arizona.

01:26:53.000 On the Supremacy Clause.

01:26:55.000 Well, Justice Scalia already says that the Supremacy Clause does not give the federal government supremacy.

01:27:02.000 It says that the Constitution is supreme, not the federal government, and that's a huge difference.

01:27:08.000 And one of the key components of this case is that the decision is based on this, and Justice Scalia, who wrote the decision, says this over and over in the decision, and I quote, State legislatures are not subject to federal direction, end quote.

01:27:26.000 So if we are not subject to federal direction, and if we indeed, as this case says, if the states are indeed sovereign, then that means that the federal government is not our boss, they cannot tell us what to do, they cannot issue directives to the states, they cannot control our land, our water, our education, our healthcare, Or anything else that they're trying to shove down our throats.

01:27:51.000 So where do we go to make sure that we know and understand this?

01:27:54.000 The same place I went.

01:27:56.000 Now Alex, you mentioned I was a rookie cop in Provo, Utah.

01:27:59.000 When I was there I made a huge mistake.

01:28:02.000 I actually read the Constitution.

01:28:05.000 I took my oath of office after that very seriously.

01:28:08.000 I dedicated Are you there?

01:28:11.000 Yes, sir.

01:28:12.000 Okay, good.

01:28:12.000 I thought my phone went dead.

01:28:13.000 Go ahead.

01:28:14.000 Okay, good.

01:28:15.000 But I made a commitment to myself that I would never go against the Constitution, that I would uphold and defend the Constitution, just like I promised to do.

01:28:26.000 And if we wake up local officials to that principle, that they'll keep their word,

01:28:32.000 When they swear an oath, an oath that is required by Article 6 of our own Constitution, that the founding fathers put in there, that all state and local officials would be required to swear allegiance, not to the king, not to the president, not to some bureaucracy, not to the governor, but to the people, that we promised that we would uphold and defend their constitutional rights.

01:28:57.000 And if we had everybody in local government doing just that, and actually keeping their oath and defending the Constitution against all enemies, both foreign and domestic, it If we actually had that, Alex...

01:29:17.000 We would get our freedom back tomorrow.

01:29:19.000 Oh, it would paralyze the New World Order, and that's why they're demonizing you.

01:29:23.000 That's why they're so scared, and that's why everybody's got to go to your website and get your book and give it to their sheriff.

01:29:29.000 Some sheriffs won't read a book, but they need to.

01:29:31.000 You can get them Don't Tread on Me, Rise of the Republic at InfoWars.com.

01:29:35.000 Give them the book and the video, and go down there and hand deliver it and say, Sheriff, you know, America's in a lot of trouble, and this has got the solutions.

01:29:45.000 This will help you rediscover what you're really supposed to do.

01:29:48.000 We're on the march.

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01:35:36.000 Okay, going back to Sheriff Richard Mack.

01:35:38.000 People can get Don't tread on me that I'm a consultant on and also in with yourself at InfoWars.com.

01:35:44.000 And they've got to go to every sheriff because it covers the same info that's in your book.

01:35:47.000 But your book gets into more detail and is also people respect books.

01:35:52.000 It's important to have them.

01:35:53.000 You explain the power of the states.

01:35:55.000 It's written from a sheriff's perspective.

01:35:57.000 A guy that's one of the Supreme Court.

01:35:58.000 You have a lot of gravitas.

01:36:01.000 Again, give people the website or a number so they can get your book and get it in the hands of sheriffs.

01:36:07.000 This is like a stake through the heart of vampires every sheriff that we wake up.

01:36:13.000 Well, that is SheriffMac.com.

01:36:15.000 Sheriff, one R, two S, and Mac, M-A-C-K.

01:36:19.000 Just go to SheriffMac.com, and the book actually needs to get to county commissioners and county attorneys.

01:36:26.000 Most of the sheriffs in the country have the book.

01:36:28.000 However, you need to follow up and make sure they read it.

01:36:31.000 Just as you said, no one can guarantee they read it.

01:36:34.000 We also have it on CD, so if somebody doesn't want to read, they can listen to it.

01:36:39.000 Uh, and it is me reading the book.

01:36:41.000 And then you can get these little booklets, and every state legislator, every county commissioner, every state and local official should see this little booklet, the Victory for State Sovereignty, because it reviews what we've been talking about here on the show, and it's in pocket-sized form, and in ten minutes, your state rep or your local county commissioner or your local sheriff can see what this case actually did to restore state sovereignty in this country.

01:37:07.000 Okay, we're going to talk about your plan and versus what the feds are doing, the alternative here in a moment, but I want to since you are a sheriff from the West, I want to draw this analogy here and then get involved with what's happening on the Arizona border right now, this act of treason by Obama, But going back, we've all seen Westerns.

01:37:28.000 Alex, let me just reiterate something that you said.

01:37:31.000 This is about solutions.

01:37:33.000 This isn't just talking about things that are horrible and going on in our country.

01:37:36.000 We could do that until next year and still not finish.

01:37:39.000 This is about a solution that is reasonable, Effective, quick, and doable, and constitutional.

01:37:47.000 And it's the law.

01:37:49.000 It's the law.

01:37:50.000 And we're going to get into that in a moment, but I want to just give people so they have a mental image of what's happened so they can have respect for themselves again.

01:37:55.000 Okay.

01:37:56.000 We've all seen those Westerns and Matt Dillon and John Wayne.

01:38:00.000 And I always thought growing up as a kid, you know, those are just movies where there's a corrupt town with bad guys in it robbing and raping and, you know, oppressing and taking farmers water and taking their daughters and finally people stand up.

01:38:11.000 But, or I thought it was a Louis L'Amour novel.

01:38:14.000 Now I've read a lot of histories of the West.

01:38:17.000 and things that happened in this country, and even after World War II in a Tennessee town when the vets came home and there was a corrupt government and they had to run them out.

01:38:24.000 But this is what happened in 1776.

01:38:26.000 It's what Andrew Jackson fought against.

01:38:28.000 It's always a repeat of the scallywags, the carpetbaggers, the corrupt interests that come in, the Rockefeller men sending Pinkerton security like in that Clint Eastwood movie where the mining town and the railroad men come and are killing people to take their claims.

01:38:45.000 That's a composite of thousands of true events.

01:38:48.000 But more often than not, people stood up because they were armed and fought back.

01:38:54.000 And, you know, the issue here is what's happening with the feds?

01:38:57.000 What's happening in our society?

01:38:58.000 We see that Hollywood image of the town finally standing up.

01:39:02.000 That's what America is.

01:39:03.000 That's what our counties are.

01:39:05.000 That's what our societies are.

01:39:06.000 And people, you've just got to get angry.

01:39:08.000 You've got to start talking.

01:39:09.000 You've got to turn the television set off.

01:39:12.000 You've got to get to the Commissioner's Court.

01:39:14.000 You've got to get with others.

01:39:15.000 You've got to get angry.

01:39:16.000 And you've got to get the facts and the Constitution.

01:39:19.000 Because I'm going to say it again, it is like a stake through the heart of these vampires because our country was born in the fight for liberty.

01:39:26.000 We've been through this over and over again.

01:39:29.000 We're not the first people to go through this and we've got the blueprint of how to beat these people.

01:39:34.000 We do, and it's every bit constitutional, it's every bit lawful, and it is a peaceful process.

01:39:44.000 This will not hurt anyone except the traitors in Washington, D.C.

01:39:48.000 There is no answer in Washington, D.C.

01:39:51.000 It is the most corrupt place on the face of the planet, but we can make headway Uh, in our counties.

01:39:57.000 And we can take America back, county by county and state by state. 0.58

01:40:00.000 But it's got to start with you, every one of your listeners.

01:40:03.000 You've got to know and understand the principle of state sovereignty.

01:40:07.000 Your sheriff has got to know and understand the principle of state sovereignty and local autonomy.

01:40:12.000 And that's exactly what my lawsuit was about.

01:40:15.000 Now, Judge John Roll, Said and that's also quoted in my little booklet that I have here in my hand the victory for state sovereignty He said Mac is thus forced to choose between keeping his oath or obeying the act Subjecting himself to possible sanctions.

01:40:32.000 Well, my question is to every peace officer and sheriff in this country when you are forced by the federal government and the lawmakers around you to choose between your oath and Or following laws and statutes.

01:40:45.000 Which one are you going to do?

01:40:47.000 Are you going to side with the people and freedom?

01:40:48.000 Or are you going to continue to acquiesce and follow the uh... Well the founders had us swear to this oath because they wanted to point out this is the real law.

01:40:59.000 This is the power.

01:41:00.000 This is the America.

01:41:02.000 This is the Republic.

01:41:04.000 Not what some Because Flim Flammer comes along later with him, and that's what Thomas Jefferson and George Washington said over and over again.

01:41:10.000 You gotta stick to this, not what lawyers come and invent later, or what they try to twist out of it.

01:41:17.000 That's exactly correct.

01:41:18.000 And this is all foundational.

01:41:20.000 It's all fundamental.

01:41:21.000 And the first page of my book, I'm glad you talk about Thomas Jefferson because I quote him on the very first page of my book.

01:41:28.000 And he says, when all governments shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided and become as penal and oppressive as the government from which we separated.

01:41:40.000 The question is, Alex, to whom can your people turn?

01:41:43.000 The people in Austin, Texas, or the people in southern Arizona, or the people throughout this country, who can they turn to for peace, safety, and protection when government from Washington, D.C. has become penal and oppressive?

01:41:56.000 And the answer is your county sheriff and your local officials.

01:42:01.000 All right, well, let's describe the true role of the sheriff, because people have never been taught this, I mean, versus what's happening all over the country where the feds come in and will put tens of millions of dollars in and buy off sheriffs and counties to get the city to absorb the county when the county is the unit of the state.

01:42:22.000 I mean, this is treason.

01:42:24.000 I keep using that word.

01:42:25.000 They know exactly what they're, this is, this is federal.

01:42:29.000 Well, my case even addresses that, and Scalia brings up the issue of compromising local authority in order to take federal grants and federal money.

01:42:43.000 The federal government is very wise.

01:42:45.000 Let's not pretend anything here.

01:42:48.000 This plan of attack to destroy state sovereignty and local autonomy and the power of the counties has been an orchestrated event.

01:42:57.000 They've even voted sheriffs out in Connecticut.

01:43:00.000 There are no more sheriffs in Connecticut.

01:43:02.000 Massachusetts is trying to do the same thing.

01:43:05.000 Ohio now has one county where the sheriff is no longer elected but appointed.

01:43:10.000 And every sheriff that I've talked to, and I've been talking to hundreds of sheriffs this past year.

01:43:16.000 Every one of them, well, not every one of them, but there's about a half of them that are worried if they take strong stands against the federal government and do what my book suggests, that they might lose federal funding.

01:43:28.000 And again, that's a coward's mindset.

01:43:30.000 We've gotten to this point of the sheriff being abolished because the enemy is attacking the Constitution and our republic.

01:43:36.000 And instead of saying, oh, I better cower, you know, for the five years or whatever you're in.

01:43:44.000 Massachusetts is trying to do the same thing.

01:43:50.000 Ohio now has one county where the sheriff is no longer elected, but appointed.

01:43:55.000 And every sheriff that I've talked to, and I've been talking to hundreds of sheriffs this past year, Every one of them, well, not every one of them, but there's about a half of them that are worried if they take strong stands against the federal government and do what my book suggests, that they might lose federal funding.

01:44:13.000 And again, that's a coward's mindset.

01:44:16.000 We've gotten to this point of the sheriff being abolished because the enemy is attacking the Constitution and our Republic, and instead of saying, oh, I better cower, You know, for the five years or whatever you're in, you want to think about your kids and grandkids, and you should get up there and stand up. 0.98

01:44:31.000 I mean, how do we come from the toughest, roughest, smartest people to a bunch of castrated cowards? 1.00

01:44:37.000 I tell you, those sheriffs are pathetic. 0.99

01:44:39.000 Well, it's all about the money, and I have said this, and I say this in my book, that anyone in this country, I don't care if it's a sheriff, state rep, county commissioner, or anyone else, if you're willing to compromise liberty, if you're willing to compromise the freedom of your citizens to continue to take money, then you, sir, are the traitor, and you have betrayed your own people. 0.96

01:45:03.000 This is time to stand, and when I sent this book to Sheriff Print, I said, Sheriff, tell me honestly, is this book true and is it the answer?

01:45:12.000 And he says, of course it is. 0.98

01:45:14.000 The problem is, you've got too many damn wimpy sheriffs. 0.98

01:45:17.000 And Alex, I'm just going to tell it like it is. 0.98

01:45:21.000 If the sheriffs in this country have the courage to stand, that's the only thing we lack now, is courage within our local communities.

01:45:29.000 Courage from county attorneys.

01:45:31.000 Courage from county sheriffs and county commissioners to uphold and defend the Constitution for the people and stop taking the money.

01:45:39.000 Yeah, we don't need quasi-federal deputized federal toadies. 0.94

01:45:43.000 We need the counties and people not liking the feds. 0.71

01:45:46.000 That was back when America was free and people were smart. 0.98

01:45:49.000 I mean, going back to our founding, not these little pathetic toadies and creatures of the feds. 0.99

01:45:55.000 We need men. 0.97

01:45:56.000 We need strong leaders who are loved in their communities to bring back true peace officers Not these law enforcement lackeys who desecrate the Constitution and enforce all this made-up crud.

01:46:08.000 Now I want to bring up a subject here with you while we've got you, Sheriff Mack.

01:46:12.000 We'll have you back soon.

01:46:14.000 But I want to read to you from Encyclopedia Britannica, and it's the same thing, and the definition, Wikipedia, they've all got it.

01:46:21.000 High treason, the definition of high treason.

01:46:23.000 Participating in a war against one's country, attempting to overthrow its government, Spying on its military, its diplomats, or its secret services for a hostile and foreign power, or attempting to kill its head of state, and it goes on, are the best known types.

01:46:37.000 Now, the most classic archetypal is enemies inside the gates who are traitors, opening the drawbridge to let the enemy in.

01:46:45.000 Now, we've got the states.

01:46:47.000 80 to 100 miles, a third of Arizona, where you were a sheriff, has imploded.

01:46:51.000 Sheriff Babbo is begging for help.

01:46:54.000 There's death threats.

01:46:55.000 They've killed thousands of law enforcement, peace officers, but they are law enforcement down in Mexico, in this war.

01:47:01.000 They're now literally roads, highways, the parkland, off limits.

01:47:07.000 Obama tells Senator Kyle treacherously, I want to keep that crisis going so I get amnesty.

01:47:13.000 That's on record.

01:47:14.000 So we have all of this happening.

01:47:16.000 Is that not high treason?

01:47:18.000 I have the article, Obama commits act of high treason, sides with foreign power against Arizona.

01:47:23.000 I have all the facts.

01:47:24.000 I have the 11th Amendment saying the feds can't sue a state or an individual citizen on behalf of foreign power.

01:47:31.000 Or an alien because that was the first amendment they passed after the first 10 because the states knew the feds could be bought off by foreign corporate powers.

01:47:40.000 Is this not an act of treason by Obama going in there trying to block the state when it's trying to not collapse like Mexico?

01:47:48.000 Well it is, and not only that, but there's more on the record about what Obama has done.

01:47:54.000 Now remember, he brought Presidente Felipe Calderon From Mexico to our own United States Congress, inside our U.S.

01:48:03.000 Capitol, to assail and criticize our own Constitution, our own freedom, our own country, our own laws, and then he got a standing ovation from the liberals and the leftists and the traitors in Washington, D.C.

01:48:18.000 All that was treason.

01:48:19.000 Every bit of this.

01:48:20.000 You cannot show me anything that Washington, D.C.

01:48:23.000 has done in the past 10, 20 years.

01:48:26.000 Yes and get, giving our authority to the WTO, an elected corporate board.

01:48:31.000 The SPP that they kept secret, the Judicial Watch got, said we've got to keep this secret in the founding document that the President signed.

01:48:38.000 We've got to keep this secret, we've got to bring a carbon tax in to erect a North American Union government.

01:48:44.000 I mean, that is the definition of high treason!

01:48:49.000 Anytime that you want to destroy or have politicians who attempt or want to destroy our own Constitution, I believe the Founding Fathers intended that to be treason.

01:49:00.000 And there's only three law enforcement authorities granted to the federal government within Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S.

01:49:06.000 Constitution.

01:49:07.000 Behind the scenes like roaches in a cheap motel, spending all their time hating veterans, conservatives, libertarians, gun owners, Ron Paul, myself, you. 0.96

01:49:17.000 I mean, they are just doing nothing but trying to brainwash police and sheriff's departments that we are the devil. 0.64

01:49:24.000 I mean, that really shows you who these people are.

01:49:27.000 We're saying we want America back. 0.64

01:49:29.000 And they're saying, if you've got a portrait of John Wayne in your house, you're a terrorist.

01:49:33.000 Yeah, and the Southern Poverty Law Center, I've been fighting them ever since I filed my lawsuit back in 1994.

01:49:39.000 Yeah, they're writing those reports.

01:49:42.000 And oh gosh, and these guys are absolutely out of control.

01:49:45.000 They are the acorn of Of politics in America.

01:49:51.000 Acorn being also a branch of the treason from the federal government.

01:49:56.000 But Southern Poverty Law Center is just like Acorn.

01:49:58.000 They get a lot of money from the federal government to lie and to do just the opposite of protecting our Constitution.

01:50:07.000 They want to destroy our Constitution.

01:50:09.000 And I'm proud to be listed with you and other patriots of this country.

01:50:14.000 I'm number 18.

01:50:16.000 Uh, on that list, and I'm very proud to stand with you and Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin and Joe Bannister and others, uh, uh, Stuart Rhodes of Oath Keepers, and I'm proud to be, uh, on the board of directors of Oath Keepers, and this is all boiling down to whether or not the peace officers in this country, the sheriffs of this country, will do one thing, and that is to uphold and defend their oath of office, to uphold and defend the Constitution.

01:50:44.000 God bless you.

01:50:44.000 Absolutely.

01:50:45.000 Our names are on that John Hancock.

01:50:48.000 They're on that Constitution. 0.93

01:50:49.000 That's an enemy warrant against us by these traitors, and they are traitors. 0.50

01:50:54.000 We'll be right back with Sheriff Mack.

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01:54:16.000 Just in other news before we finish up with Sheriff Richard Mack, we saw local Fox News say the Army's searching people's cars and putting them through x-ray machines in Albany, New York.

01:54:26.000 And I saw newscasts suddenly in Illinois where it's happening and regular Marines in California searching people for DWIs. 1.00

01:54:32.000 I mean, this is martial law.

01:54:35.000 And here it is, New York National Guard involved in mass arrest of U.S.

01:54:38.000 citizens.

01:54:39.000 We reported on part one of this Fox show yesterday.

01:54:43.000 Now we have part two, where they announced on the show, oh, the Army is arresting people for drinking, for guns.

01:54:50.000 I mean, ladies and gentlemen, this is a strategic, creeping, federal takeover.

01:54:56.000 And we've warned you, and now they're talking about 400,000 regular Army on the streets of America.

01:55:01.000 They've got threat fusion centers, federalizing local police.

01:55:05.000 We have got to slow this down and then reverse it.

01:55:08.000 And that's where Sheriff Mack comes in.

01:55:10.000 Here's another one.

01:55:11.000 This is up on GCNlive.com.

01:55:13.000 Obama's science czar called for global carbon tax.

01:55:17.000 The government kept these Holdren documents secret.

01:55:19.000 They've now released them.

01:55:20.000 The science czar said we quote must redistribute the wealth of America to the southern hemisphere.

01:55:26.000 This is another act of treason.

01:55:28.000 And of course, he means for the banks down there. 0.85

01:55:30.000 I mean, folks, these are criminals. 0.51

01:55:33.000 He wants to ruin you.

01:55:34.000 This is by design.

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01:55:41.000 And then we've got a link to the Korean Times.

01:55:42.000 He's the former chief economist of the IMF, says exploit Gulf disaster for carbon tax and that it's a good thing.

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01:56:04.000 The inquiry was all filled with global warming crooks, with global warming people who promoted it.

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01:56:11.000 Sheriff Mack, we've got three minutes left here at the end.

01:56:13.000 This is make or break it.

01:56:14.000 We are going into bondage, but our ancestors rose to the occasion.

01:56:20.000 Will we rise to the occasion, or will we go into slavery because it was too fun to drink beer and watch TV?

01:56:25.000 Well, I'm afraid there's one way to prevent it.

01:56:31.000 And it's at your local level.

01:56:32.000 The answer to that question, if you want to stop tyranny, if you want to stop the UN, if you want to stop the global gun grab, if you want to stop the land grab, if you want to protect your children and your families' freedom and liberty, if you want to protect your Constitution, you must start with your local sheriff, your county commission, and do it in your own town and in your own county.

01:56:56.000 That's the only answer left.

01:56:59.000 We can do it.

01:57:01.000 I'm having emails from sheriff candidates all across this country.

01:57:05.000 I'm helping them with their campaigns.

01:57:07.000 I was contacted by AP talking about all the sheriff races across the country that are concentrating on which candidate will be the most constitutional sheriff.

01:57:17.000 If you have a constitutional sheriff who will protect you from all enemies, both foreign and domestic, who will protect you from the gun grabbers and protect you from the globalists, You will win and you will get your freedom back and it will be done peacefully, effectively, and you will be able to live in freedom once again.

01:57:35.000 And if it's nothing more than your county, then so be it.

01:57:38.000 And if we can convert, if we can convert the massive Tea Party energy, not just into congressional candidates, but into sheriffs, and point out the incumbency of these corrupt sheriffs and get patriots in, This is another major move on the chessboard.

01:57:55.000 The next move is checkmate of the enemy if we can do this.

01:57:58.000 Sheriff Mack, I salute you.

01:58:00.000 I salute your passion and Oath Keepers and all the work we're doing.

01:58:03.000 We know the enemy is going to stage terror attacks like Oklahoma City and try to blame it on us.

01:58:07.000 It's not gonna work.

01:58:08.000 We got the word out on that.

01:58:10.000 I look forward to talking to you again soon.

01:58:12.000 Have a great weekend that's coming up, sir.

01:58:13.000 Thanks a lot, Alex.

01:58:14.000 I'll see you soon.

01:58:15.000 People can go to Sheriff Mac's website and find out about where you're speaking next, correct?

01:58:19.000 You bet.

01:58:19.000 Thank you.

01:58:20.000 All right.

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02:00:12.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:18.000 All right, all right.

02:00:19.000 This is not Alex Jones.

02:00:20.000 I know it.

02:00:21.000 This is Ted Anderson.

02:00:22.000 I'm just popping in here for Alex Jones.

02:00:23.000 He and I had a conversation earlier today.

02:00:26.000 He said, hey, look, Silver's gone nuts.

02:00:28.000 Gold is going up.

02:00:29.000 Will you please get in there and tell everybody what's going on?

02:00:32.000 And of course, how can I turn that down?

02:00:34.000 I just need to tell you, he's had just one really awesome time with Jesse Ventura traveling, looking into all these all these new show topics on his conspiracy show and just can't wait.

02:00:49.000 To see those productions.

02:00:50.000 I'm sure they'll be out Very soon.

02:00:53.000 So anyways, Alex Jones will be back in town He's waiting in the airport right now to get the lift off get back into Austin, Texas back in the saddle right where he belongs front lines enemy range and he'll be here tomorrow live and Just real quick, you know, I mean, he and I have been talking about this for quite a while, and I can't say it enough, man.

02:01:15.000 The federal government is telling on themselves.

02:01:18.000 Alex talks about all these conspiracies and what's going on, how the banking community has rigged the system and has, you know, that things are going according to plan on them.

02:01:29.000 Well, the Federal Debt and Risk of Financial Crises document describes that to the T.

02:01:34.000 I mean, they are saying that we're going to be like Argentina or Brazil, or you can compare us to the Greek economy.

02:01:43.000 The United States is in trouble.

02:01:44.000 But the neat part about it is, is they have a graph on the federal public debt held by the public here.

02:01:50.000 And it goes all the way from 1790 up to the year 2010.

02:01:54.000 And you can see when these elite people had stepped into the marketplace in 1913, creating the Federal Reserve System.

02:02:02.000 And also in 1913, the income tax, the federal income tax, and almost immediately thereafter the World War I starts, then we have the Great Depression, World War II goes beyond that, and you can just see this debt thing growing, and you can see the whole economic turnaround from that start to where we are today, and this is from the The Congressional Budget Office, I mean, it is just absolute pinpoint on the money, and it's coming from Congress.

02:02:32.000 Everybody should have this document.

02:02:34.000 Midas has it.

02:02:35.000 We'll print it off.

02:02:36.000 We'll mail it to you.

02:02:37.000 We'll email it to you, whatever.

02:02:39.000 You need to get this document, read it, and you need to give it to your friends.

02:02:43.000 And the neat part about it is it's coming from Congress, so it won't sound like it's coming from a tin hat wearing loony like me.

02:02:51.000 It'll sound more like it's coming from our government, which is what it is.

02:02:55.000 I'm not saying that I've been wrong all these years about what the government's been doing, nor has Alex.

02:03:00.000 We certainly have backed up everything we say with documentation, so you can use that documentation.

02:03:06.000 But this is like a silver bullet.

02:03:08.000 that's going to put the werewolves out of business. 0.96

02:03:11.000 I mean, it really is.

02:03:12.000 It's called the Federal Debt and the Risk of Financial Crisis by the CBO.

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02:08:06.000 We've got 52 minutes left in broadcast today, Wednesday, July 7, 2010.

02:08:15.000 And I know that the Oklahoma City bombing of the Albert P. Murrah building was 15 years ago, but it's more important than ever because on all these television documentaries there Invoking it again and saying that people that are against the New World Order and people that are against the federal government taking over in health care, they're terrorists.

02:08:31.000 They're going to kill you.

02:08:33.000 And Alex Jones wants violence. 1.00

02:08:35.000 He wants to kill you when we actually call for the opposite.

02:08:38.000 And so it's clear that they're getting ready to play that card.

02:08:41.000 The Hattari, even seven months before they got busted, said they've got infiltrators in there.

02:08:46.000 And it turned out they had two.

02:08:47.000 The feds have covered up who they are.

02:08:49.000 But I think the fact that people exposed that There were some fake arrests there with at least two of the nine people caused that trial to fall apart.

02:08:57.000 And the judge said this was politically motivated and just a PR stunt.

02:09:01.000 Kind of like Waco.

02:09:02.000 Yeah, they were doing some weird stuff.

02:09:03.000 Most of it exaggerated.

02:09:04.000 They could have picked up Vernon Howe, a.k.a.

02:09:06.000 David Koresh, any day.

02:09:07.000 He went into town every day, had an auto parts repair shop two miles away.

02:09:12.000 They wanted that big stunt.

02:09:13.000 And that came out, of course, in the ATF documents.

02:09:16.000 And then that really blew up in their face so the feds bombed Oklahoma City and the evidence is just a hundred percent in triplicate up one side and down the other that the feds bombed Oklahoma City and people who work for the federal government need to realize that none of you are safe so we're going to be talking to some very interesting individuals and We've got two of them in here now.

02:09:35.000 Towards the end, I may try to get one of the other fellows in here who I've interviewed before, who's got great connections and research between Oklahoma City 15 years ago and 9-11 nine years ago.

02:09:46.000 So that's coming up.

02:09:46.000 But in other news, this is the type of stuff that comes across my desk every day.

02:09:51.000 This is out of the Korea Times, and it says, Can Good Emerge from BP Oil Spill?

02:09:55.000 And this is by Kenneth Rogoff.

02:09:58.000 And Rogoff was the chief economist of the International Monetary Fund.

02:10:02.000 Which is openly trying to set up world government.

02:10:04.000 And he says, "The fact that BP oil spill is on the cusp of becoming a political game-changer of historic proportions, we may get a carbon tax long advocated by a broad spectrum of economists.

02:10:15.000 It is a generalized version of a gas tax that hits all forms of carbon emissions, including from coal and natural gas.

02:10:21.000 In principle, one could create a cap-and-trade system of qualitative restrictions and accomplishments, much the same thing.

02:10:27.000 And it seems to be more palatable to politicians who will jump through hooves to avoid using the word 'tax.' So the World Bank and the former IMF head, because it's one group, they're basically saying we're going to get a carbon tax out of that.

02:10:40.000 Interesting little tidbit.

02:10:42.000 But don't worry, we got thousands of emails with the heads of the UN program hiding the fact that the Earth's been cooling for 10 years.

02:10:50.000 Stopped warming 15 years ago because of the sun cooling off.

02:10:54.000 UK inquiry finds emails do not undermine climate science.

02:10:59.000 UK inquiry finds emails do not undermine climate science.

02:11:02.000 And then of course we wrote months ago about this inquiry.

02:11:04.000 It's all headed up by top global warming globalist.

02:11:07.000 This is like having Joseph Goebbels run the Nuremberg trials on Hitler.

02:11:15.000 Or having Bubsy Siegel run the trial of Al Capone.

02:11:19.000 Or having the Genoveses investigate the Gambinos. 0.98

02:11:23.000 I mean, it's incredible.

02:11:27.000 I mean, it's worse than the fox guarding the hen house.

02:11:29.000 And we have a key article by Steve Watson up at prisonplanted.com.

02:11:32.000 Climategate whitewash complete.

02:11:34.000 Third inquiry clears everyone involved.

02:11:37.000 And then we have our top stories today.

02:11:39.000 They're up on GCNlive.com.

02:11:42.000 That's GCN, the initials, GCNLive.com.

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02:11:48.000 New York National Guard units scan vehicles for gun confiscations.

02:11:51.000 We have the Fox News clip there from the local news and photos of the gun searches and confiscations going on in America at GCNLive.com.

02:12:01.000 And we also have some other reports up on GCNLive.com.

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02:12:20.000 That's all up at GCNLive.com.

02:12:22.000 So just unbelievably important information.

02:12:25.000 Now for the balance of the hour, turning to guys who we could have on for 10 hours.

02:12:30.000 And they have their own radio show on Rule of Law Radio.

02:12:32.000 We'll give you that website before they leave us.

02:12:36.000 They're James Lane and, of course, Chris Emery.

02:12:38.000 And they're both filmmakers, researchers, some of the best research out there.

02:12:44.000 And so I wanted both of them to just spend four or five minutes apiece explaining why Oklahoma City is important and giving the basic facts.

02:12:50.000 And then you had some nice government documents about Jolly and West.

02:12:54.000 The admitted mind control had MKUltraDoctor, along with Ewing Cameron, being McVeigh's doctor throughout this whole thing.

02:13:01.000 I mean, you can't, a science fiction writer couldn't come up with stuff this bizarre and in our face.

02:13:07.000 So we'll talk about that today and who you think McVeigh really was.

02:13:11.000 So Chris Emery, why don't you take it first?

02:13:14.000 Thanks for having us on, Alex.

02:13:16.000 The reason Oklahoma City is still relevant today is that it is a script that the federal government has followed for the last, I'd say, 35 years.

02:13:25.000 And it's easy to see when an action comes up like 9-11 or these militia raids and so forth, you know, pretty much, you set up a clipboard and you know exactly what's going to happen.

02:13:35.000 And even before I get into filmmaking and the truth movement, so to speak, or research on this, I was listening to your shows And I said, you know what?

02:13:42.000 Alex is right.

02:13:43.000 You hit all of the points.

02:13:44.000 And it's easy to see how they do this.

02:13:46.000 And they have no compunction.

02:13:47.000 They're not embarrassed.

02:13:48.000 They're actually very proud of the fact that they repeat these.

02:13:51.000 And it's insidious.

02:13:52.000 It doesn't get any worse than that.

02:13:54.000 People need to wake up.

02:13:55.000 And they need to know, not only Oklahoma City, but Waco.

02:13:58.000 It's a consistent trail of events.

02:14:01.000 And it gets worse.

02:14:02.000 The body count is worse as it goes along.

02:14:04.000 What we're trying to do with this film is bring out a lot of the information that people haven't been exposed to.

02:14:09.000 James is going to elaborate on footage that has never been seen before, that has come our way.

02:14:13.000 We're going to highlight that.

02:14:14.000 You're interviewing Terence Yegge's family about how they murdered him?

02:14:17.000 I mean, you're getting all the interviews.

02:14:18.000 Yes, sir.

02:14:19.000 So, anyway, we want to bring a completely fresh perspective on this, information that has never been revealed before, and we are very grateful for having the opportunity to be on here to reveal this information.

02:14:31.000 Well, I'm glad to have you here.

02:14:32.000 This was just an apathos that you're here to interview me for the film.

02:14:34.000 I'm honored to be part of that.

02:14:36.000 But, I mean, get into just the... Let's say you had three minutes on national TV.

02:14:42.000 What would you say to the public about Oklahoma City to get them to realize what really happened?

02:14:47.000 Twelve people were involved that we know of, as many as 18.

02:14:49.000 The scripted two perps and nobody else involved is complete bunk.

02:14:55.000 That is a slap in the face to the victims' family members and survivors.

02:14:58.000 People need to realize that we are going to expose information.

02:15:02.000 We choose to remember the deaths of these people in the truth versus a lie.

02:15:05.000 Uh, the second thing is that there was so many people, so much resources, there was more money spent covering up this case than actually investigating in the proper manner.

02:15:13.000 The federal government actually went backwards.

02:15:15.000 They did a complete U-turn on all of the ethics, all of the integrity, all of the resources, the professional, everything they had, they threw right out the window just to make sure that this was covered up.

02:15:24.000 Because we know that there were actually assets, government assets.

02:15:27.000 Both in the United States and elsewhere, overseas, that were involved in making sure that this thing came down.

02:15:32.000 They were supposed to stop it at the last minute and it backfired right at their feet.

02:15:37.000 Well, and that's what they always tell the mid-level people, is, oh, we're going to stop this.

02:15:40.000 Just like in the first World Trade Center attack, right before Waco, I mean, they hired an Egyptian security agent, Ahmad Salam, had him cook a real bomb, and he's going, look, you're going to let the bombing go forward? 0.87

02:15:52.000 He knew they were setting him up.

02:15:53.000 Exactly.

02:15:54.000 So he recorded them, and that came out in the New York Times and CBS, and they said, look, let it go ahead and happen.

02:15:59.000 We're going to do this.

02:16:00.000 And so that's how they always do it.

02:16:02.000 But, I mean, you have Jane Graham, everybody else in the building, seeing McVeigh and the other guys in there planting the bombs, and she thought it was gray sticks of butter.

02:16:10.000 That's right.

02:16:10.000 James, you wanted to go ahead and add a few things on there.

02:16:13.000 Yeah.

02:16:13.000 I think the one thing that stood out to me the most as I'm doing my research was the Ampo bomb, the story that it was Ampo that was used.

02:16:20.000 The ammonium nitrate and fuel oil mixture would create a cloud of nitric gas.

02:16:25.000 Well, we know because of the Terence Yiki story that he was there within minutes of the bombing pulling Tom Hall out.

02:16:31.000 Nobody had any problems with respiration.

02:16:34.000 We know VZ Lawton, he was there.

02:16:35.000 He's a survivor.

02:16:37.000 I mean, and of course, General Partin, the building blown out, not in.

02:16:40.000 Right.

02:16:41.000 And so, I mean, if it was not, if it was AMFO, there would have been a huge nitric gas cloud over the building.

02:16:46.000 And initially, right, the minutes after the bombing, the wind was blown right into the building where VZ Lawton was.

02:16:51.000 Nobody had any problems with that.

02:16:53.000 So, I mean, that disproves that AMFO was used.

02:16:56.000 We have evidence, the 40-year anniversary of a bombing in Madison, Wisconsin, is coming up this August.

02:17:02.000 And 23 people were sent to the hospital after, first responders were sent to the hospital because they were overcome with the fumes.

02:17:11.000 So we know that that's the pattern of it, and they expect us to believe this.

02:17:14.000 It gets so cartoonish, it's almost like Wile E. Coyote tiptoeing in with the Acme bomb.

02:17:18.000 And this is what they expect the American people to believe.

02:17:21.000 Then we have the footage of them removing the other bombs that didn't go off.

02:17:25.000 I mean, and parts of the building blown across the street the opposite direction of the truck bomb.

02:17:29.000 I mean, it just goes on.

02:17:30.000 And then killing the cop that was exposing it, torturing him to death, and just, just, just, I mean, it goes on and on.

02:17:36.000 Well, the story of Terence Sheik, you mentioned the video that we did on that.

02:17:39.000 We just thought it was important for that story to be told.

02:17:42.000 I mean, that man was a real hero.

02:17:43.000 He worked himself beyond exhaustion to save people that day.

02:17:46.000 And he said that the official story was not how it happened.

02:17:50.000 And, you know, I mean, he was concerned for his safety.

02:17:53.000 Right before they tortured him to death, he thought he'd been poisoned, right?

02:17:55.000 Yeah, he was sick.

02:17:56.000 They were talking about getting him to the hospital.

02:17:58.000 And I think to protect his family, he kind of isolated himself from them.

02:18:02.000 And he was on the way to a meeting that morning, and he never made it.

02:18:07.000 They found him tortured to death.

02:18:10.000 Yeah, the possible rope burns on the neck, the angle of the shot, he bled out in the car, supposedly walked a quarter of a mile after bleeding out, and then shot himself at a downward angle.

02:18:22.000 Again, it ruled suicide immediately, and it's absurd.

02:18:25.000 The information that we're getting, Alex, let us know how you're doing on a break, is that there are good members of law enforcement, local, county, state, and federal level that have come forward, either admitted their identity or wanted to be anonymous, and there's a consistent pattern of, okay, this is the information that makes sense, what the federal government and their Like you said, the cartoonish story simply can't hold its own.

02:18:46.000 There is no factual foundation on it.

02:18:48.000 So we go back and we say, OK, we're going to present the information that we know is factual, reams of documentation, every single thing that we're going to have on the film will have a bibliography, and there's going to be reference on all of that.

02:18:59.000 So there's no question.

02:19:00.000 And we're going to paint a completely different story.

02:19:02.000 We need to get the truth out on this.

02:19:04.000 People will have that as a foundation, just like a lot of your movies, to make a judgment call on what's going to happen in the future.

02:19:09.000 They have to know.

02:19:10.000 Well, then you've got the FBI coming and brandishing guns at Hoppy Heidelberg, the head grand juror's house, and telling him, you're not going to call these witnesses, you're going to shut up.

02:19:18.000 I mean, you have the motive.

02:19:20.000 I mean, Bill Clinton on Air Force One a year after the attack, they said, why did you get reelected?

02:19:25.000 Your approval rating was way down.

02:19:26.000 It went way back up.

02:19:27.000 He said, Oklahoma City got me reelected.

02:19:29.000 Well, I mean, that's why Hitler firebombed his own Reichstag.

02:19:32.000 The whitewater documents were housed in the building for the whole investigation.

02:19:37.000 He was going to go down like a light balloon.

02:19:38.000 It was unbelievable.

02:19:39.000 In May of that year, congressional hearings were going to take him down on the whitewater investigation.

02:19:43.000 Let's fix this all in one shot.

02:19:45.000 Blow that building, make sure there's kids inside, people love images of them, and get rid of them documents at the same time.

02:19:51.000 We'll be right back.

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02:23:54.000 All right, we're going to go right back to our guest in studio, listening on the radio out there on the M&FM dial, Global Shortwave Satellite X.

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02:24:12.000 Chris Emery, filmmaker, director, producer, living in Oklahoma City, known him for many years.

02:24:17.000 And of course, James Lane, also doing great work, both making a Oklahoma City film set to come out in the winter of this year.

02:24:24.000 Okay, you were going over incredible information about Jolly and West, other tidbits, things that are documented on record, but are so bizarre, it's where truth is stranger than fiction.

02:24:34.000 Get into it.

02:24:35.000 We've got a researcher, Wendy Painting, that has been uncovering these documents, and she's actually getting through information that the FBI hadn't even seen.

02:24:42.000 It was actual records for the defense.

02:24:46.000 And we've got a hold of Jolly West's resume.

02:24:49.000 That's McVeigh's doctor from the time he gets arrested to his execution.

02:24:53.000 Yes.

02:24:54.000 And I always suspected that there was some link with, you know, mind control, psychological warfare.

02:25:01.000 And sure enough, on the second page of his resume, we've got where he worked for the Tavistock Institute.

02:25:06.000 Which is the top British mind control operation.

02:25:09.000 And then, of course, he was in the MKUltra 77 hearings as the number two man in the world in the MKUltra program under Ewing Cameron.

02:25:17.000 And now this is, Tavistock Institute has direct links back to when the Fabians absorbed the National Socialist Science through Project Paperclip.

02:25:26.000 So, I mean, this guy was really the inheritor of that knowledge.

02:25:30.000 And now he goes in to the location there in El Reno.

02:25:34.000 In fact, guys, do a document cam shot of this.

02:25:38.000 I'll keep going.

02:25:39.000 In El Reno.

02:25:40.000 And what did the warden say there?

02:25:43.000 Well, the warden says he runs a clean operation that was at the Federal Correctional Facility, a mile and a half from where Terry Iggy's body was found, by the way.

02:25:50.000 And when he found out that there were hypodermic needles on McVeigh's trace, that's it.

02:25:55.000 I do not allow drugs, I don't allow paraphernalia, nothing in my prison.

02:25:58.000 What's going on here?

02:25:59.000 Two weeks later, he was relieved he was transferred to another facility. 0.90

02:26:02.000 And that's how the Japanese created their mind control assassin ninjas, was drugs and sex. 1.00

02:26:10.000 But please continue.

02:26:11.000 Well, uh, we see that, uh, they say that he was so drugged up, that McVeigh was so drugged up at that point that he would have admitted to assassinating Abraham Lincoln.

02:26:18.000 Um, then, uh, Jolly West's protege, uh, took over after that, uh, Dr. John Smith.

02:26:23.000 Now, he is currently, uh, in, in psychiatric department at Guantanamo Bay.

02:26:27.000 So, again, these guys, uh, there's a constant... And they admit Guantanamo Bay has a CIA base on it where they do mind control study.

02:26:34.000 Yeah.

02:26:34.000 I mean, that's MSNBC.

02:26:35.000 Yeah.

02:26:36.000 Wow, man, this is amazing.

02:26:38.000 And there's transcripts that show where Jolly West is talking about working with Jack Ruby.

02:26:44.000 I mean, he goes back that far.

02:26:47.000 You know, and the type of situation that Jack Ruby was going through and the mental stress that he dealt with and comparing that with McVeigh.

02:26:54.000 McVeigh showed signs of post-traumatic stress, I'm sorry, Gulf War Syndrome, prior to being deployed.

02:27:02.000 Dental visits, I mean, just an enormous number of dental visits in the military.

02:27:07.000 Uh, you know, that doesn't happen.

02:27:09.000 You know, what were they doing with this guy?

02:27:11.000 That's where they knock you out, you disappear a few days.

02:27:13.000 And it's enough to pose solid questions, you know?

02:27:16.000 Well, the state police, when he got pulled over, they said he was dis- Yeah, go over what a cop said.

02:27:23.000 He was out of his gourd.

02:27:25.000 He was surprised to see that McVeigh was packing heat and he had several magazines of rounds on himself and in the car.

02:27:33.000 But the peculiar thing about Charlie Hanger, a lot of folks don't realize, it was his day off.

02:27:37.000 He's 62 miles outside of his precinct.

02:27:40.000 What in the world is Charlie Hanger doing zooming up I-35 going after In fact, he wasn't chasing anybody in particular.

02:27:46.000 He was just cruising, and he stopped McVeigh for a speeding violation.

02:27:50.000 And then to find out his tag was off, he wasn't registered.

02:27:53.000 There was a lot of things that certainly posed a lot of questions.

02:27:55.000 Number one, Charlie Hanger wasn't supposed to be there.

02:27:58.000 So that's a huge red flag right there.

02:28:00.000 No chemical residue on McVeigh at all.

02:28:02.000 No explosive residue.

02:28:03.000 They checked his ears and, I mean, nothing.

02:28:05.000 And, of course, the feds have grabbed all these surveillance tapes, and FBI agents told the L.A. Times they've seen them.

02:28:11.000 It shows McVeigh with these other men.

02:28:12.000 So the Feds have these tapes, but they're saying they don't exist.

02:28:16.000 How many tapes did they copy over?

02:28:19.000 580 tapes were actually copied and contracted for by the federal government.

02:28:24.000 Uh, there were survivors that sued for 24.

02:28:26.000 The FBI lied, said, well, they didn't exist.

02:28:29.000 And they said, well, we lied, but here's another lie.

02:28:32.000 So, out of 580 tapes, there were 120 of interest, which means they had three copies of 120 tapes.

02:28:38.000 That's five times more than the original amount that they had.

02:28:40.000 But the local news talked to the FBI agent.

02:28:41.000 They say there's one from right over the truck, and you can see John Doe No.

02:28:45.000 2 in McVeigh, big as Dallas.

02:28:46.000 So, all of these things, this body of information literally comes at us by accident or by people that are conscientious.

02:28:53.000 Uh, sitting on it for several years and they come and say, look, we need to get this out.

02:28:56.000 What do you make of all these people that were in prison with him and, uh, Terry Nichols and others with these signed affidavits that McVeigh was like, yeah, I was in black ops.

02:29:05.000 We were setting up malicious.

02:29:06.000 I mean, that fits with the MO we had.

02:29:09.000 Their family was surprised.

02:29:10.000 McVeigh's family was surprised.

02:29:11.000 They said, you know, he worked for the government.

02:29:13.000 He wrote the letter saying that, uh, you know, he was working for the CIA smuggling, uh, drugs in.

02:29:18.000 Uh, so, I mean, they just assumed that he was, he was black ops.

02:29:21.000 This is on an FBI 302 witness statement.

02:29:23.000 It's bona fide people.

02:29:24.000 We're not pulling this stuff out of our ear.

02:29:25.000 This is documentation.

02:29:27.000 Stay there.

02:29:28.000 We got a long segment.

02:29:29.000 I'm going to try to quit injecting points there.

02:29:31.000 There's so many.

02:29:31.000 But let's go over who McVeigh was.

02:29:33.000 Let's go over what's admitted.

02:29:35.000 I mean, I mean, this guy and for all you black ops people out there, you know, they're going to set you up, too, OK? 0.93

02:29:41.000 They enjoy burning you. 0.68

02:29:42.000 Remember the MIAC report. 0.90

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02:29:44.000 They hate cops.

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02:33:56.000 Now, going back to Chris Emery and, of course, James Lane working on this Oklahoma City bombing film, which will be out in the fall or the winter.

02:34:07.000 Continuing, gentlemen, with what you were discussing there about just all the bizarre things here in these FBI reports and now the affidavits and all these witnesses and McVeigh telling people, yes, I'm a government agent and one day this is all going to come out.

02:34:24.000 And then you see him on TV doing interviews, just looks like he's bombed out of his mind, looks like a complete drug addict on the side of the road, and he's got the top mind control doctor living because Cameron had died by then.

02:34:35.000 Jolly and Wes there shooting him up with his stuff.

02:34:39.000 I mean, this is incredible.

02:34:40.000 Well, you know, if they would just show us the tapes, you know, there's how many tapes that Jesse Trinidou tried to get?

02:34:47.000 Jesse had contacted myself and a couple other survivors, members of the bombing committee, and he says, what locations should we ask for the tapes?

02:34:54.000 And we gave it to him.

02:34:55.000 He went to the federal government.

02:34:56.000 They obfuscated.

02:34:57.000 They delayed.

02:34:58.000 They gave him stuff of video footage of people walking in buildings two blocks away.

02:35:02.000 It had nothing to do with the Murr building at all.

02:35:04.000 Hallways in the building next door. 0.91

02:35:06.000 I mean, yeah, it was ridiculous. 0.99

02:35:07.000 It was complete garbage. 0.99

02:35:07.000 And so he was able to get about 28 tapes, but they were useless. 0.99

02:35:11.000 I told Jesse, I said, Jesse, they have 118 in their possession that we know of that they duplicated three copies of.

02:35:17.000 So we know that was, as they say, of interest.

02:35:20.000 Asked for every single one of those tapes.

02:35:22.000 He didn't get them.

02:35:22.000 They say national security.

02:35:25.000 They say that.

02:35:25.000 I saw that in the news and papers.

02:35:27.000 National security on these videos.

02:35:29.000 Because it's national security that the globalists blew that building up.

02:35:34.000 And that's why we're calling the documentary A Noble Lie.

02:35:37.000 That's from Plato's The Republic, where it's the lie that the elite tell to maintain social harmony in their position.

02:35:43.000 You know, because, I mean, it was just, again, it was so ridiculous, they just keep perpetuating this lie and expect people to believe it, I guess, you know, national security.

02:35:51.000 It would be against social harmony.

02:35:54.000 If they would just show us the tapes, you know, it would answer all the questions.

02:35:58.000 It would answer the John Doe questions, you know, as far as who was in the truck.

02:36:02.000 Well, let's go back, before we get into that, because we left off of that.

02:36:05.000 Who is McVeigh?

02:36:07.000 I mean, this guy disappears out of the military.

02:36:09.000 He's showing up in all these militias all over the country.

02:36:12.000 He's telling family I'm black ops infiltrating militias.

02:36:15.000 He's telling others I'm bringing narcotics in for the government.

02:36:18.000 He was a sharpshooter in the U.S.

02:36:19.000 Army during the first Persian Gulf War.

02:36:21.000 In fact, he was so good that he was on the security detail for General Schwarzkopf, which means you really have to get your numbers, accuracy and everything.

02:36:29.000 And he was commended.

02:36:30.000 Ironically enough, he was given a medal of commendation when he was in prison, actually, in the county jail in Denver awaiting trial.

02:36:37.000 That's how good he was.

02:36:38.000 The Army was obligated to give him that medal.

02:36:40.000 After he got out, the FBI lost track of him for, what we know, at least four months, as long as six months.

02:36:47.000 And that's when he turned up with the Bill Bean story, up in South Dakota, or North Dakota.

02:36:53.000 It was the National Guard training base.

02:36:55.000 Yeah, where they actually train in explosives.

02:36:57.000 And there's clear video of him at the explosives base a year after he supposedly got out of the military.

02:37:03.000 And that's all been vetted out by linguistics experts from the University of Utah.

02:37:06.000 Mr. Bean did a very good job, superb job, everything thorough research right there.

02:37:10.000 So that's ironclad.

02:37:12.000 He had at least four different identities that we know of.

02:37:15.000 South Dakota driver's license, a Michigan driver's license, Arizona driver's license, and an Arkansas driver's license.

02:37:21.000 Just like Lee Harvey Oswald, who has now been declassified, was at a CIA base in Japan and was allowed to infiltrate Russia and then allowed to come back to the U.S.

02:37:32.000 I mean here are these spies, you know, shooting the president.

02:37:35.000 Now the people, it's one thing to ask McVeigh, it's the people that he actually surrounds himself with.

02:37:39.000 Andreas Straussmeier, national from West Germany.

02:37:42.000 Dad's number three with a helmet coal administration.

02:37:44.000 Traveling throughout the U.S.

02:37:45.000 with an expired visa for four years.

02:37:48.000 No gainful employment.

02:37:49.000 All of his credit card bills are being paid for.

02:37:51.000 Come to find out he actually had the passcode to the federal building in downtown Fort Worth.

02:37:56.000 While he's trying to infiltrate these different militia groups, both in Texas and in Oklahoma.

02:38:00.000 Four weeks before Oklahoma City bombing happened, he was literally kicked out of Texas by the militia groups.

02:38:05.000 They actually scouted him going into the rear door of the federal courthouse, punching the keypad, the security keypad.

02:38:13.000 24 hours later, they said, look, you got three days to get out of this state or else we can't guarantee your safety.

02:38:18.000 Where does he go?

02:38:18.000 Ellum City in Oklahoma.

02:38:20.000 Unbelievable.

02:38:21.000 And that's got the Southern Poverty Law Center running it. 1.00

02:38:23.000 They're all over that like white on rice.

02:38:23.000 Absolutely.

02:38:25.000 So, anyway, you wanted to talk about the tapes, I guess.

02:38:28.000 We had other information on that.

02:38:29.000 Well, no, we covered that.

02:38:31.000 I mean, basically, they're just, if they just told us they caught on fire or something, it'd be at least more believable.

02:38:35.000 But they just, you know, they're like, well, no, that all of the tapes, outside tapes, in all the separate buildings, through separate security systems, all changed their tapes at the same time.

02:38:45.000 You know, it's absurd.

02:38:46.000 But we have FBI agents who told the LA Times and others, because I have these articles, that they have seen the videos and it shows Tim McVeigh with John Doe No. 2.

02:38:55.000 Secret Service memorandum actually two weeks after the bombing.

02:38:58.000 It's right there.

02:38:59.000 That was actually entered in the state trial for Terry Nichols in March of 2005.

02:39:03.000 And Nichols has signed an affidavit saying that McVeigh was black ops.

02:39:06.000 Yes.

02:39:07.000 He has no reason to make this stuff up.

02:39:08.000 Terry has everything to lose and nothing to gain by that claim.

02:39:11.000 What about the new guy that I interviewed?

02:39:13.000 He's been around for years, but we were able to get the first interview in over a decade.

02:39:13.000 I mean, he's not new.

02:39:19.000 Mr. Cooper, and he was saying that McVeigh basically told him the same thing, and they told him, we won't execute you if you'll just shut up.

02:39:28.000 David Paul Hammer.

02:39:29.000 Hammer, Hammer, not Cooper.

02:39:32.000 There's some very good information to support that.

02:39:34.000 Again, David has some solid info, and Wendy has been able to corroborate a lot of that.

02:39:39.000 Yeah, and Chris was actually able to go out and scout some locations that was talked about in the book that there's no way that David Paul Hammer would have that knowledge of that.

02:39:49.000 Unless someone that was there, you know, told him about it.

02:39:52.000 If I may preface this, Alex, before I decided to really jump feet first into this project, I took Back Deviners with me and we had a small film crew.

02:39:59.000 We literally toured five miles around the crime scene.

02:40:02.000 And we're trying to piece all of the stuff from the official story together.

02:40:05.000 Didn't make any sense.

02:40:06.000 Then we went back to what the committee had gathered in their 572-page report.

02:40:09.000 The Oklahoma's Bombing Investigation Committee.

02:40:13.000 OKCbombing.net, if you don't mind, we'll plug that.

02:40:15.000 Yeah, led by Charles Key.

02:40:17.000 Unbelievable.

02:40:17.000 State Rep.

02:40:18.000 So we went through that book over a matter of about four weeks, and we're looking at all of these locations, and we're literally painting a mosaic of, yes, this does make sense.

02:40:25.000 Physically, these guys, the 12 perps and the additional six, there may or may have not known that they're working for the government in various capacities.

02:40:33.000 They were at these locations, and it was a At least four different groups working together in concert to make this thing go off.

02:40:39.000 It wasn't two lone nuts driving an Anfo truck in front of the Murr building.

02:40:44.000 It can't happen. 0.96

02:40:44.000 It's ludicrous. 0.96

02:40:45.000 And how long would it take, you know, 30 minutes or more for them to drive from that park in Kansas to the location in Oklahoma City?

02:40:52.000 And by that point, the ammonium nitrate fuel oil mixture goes inert.

02:40:55.000 They would have to have stopped along the way and remixed it.

02:40:58.000 The Arabs, at least 3,000 plus, brought in by George Bush Sr.

02:41:03.000 and then a couple thousand by Clinton, The media investigating them, claiming that they were connected in with some of these other people.

02:41:10.000 From your deep research, is that a red herring?

02:41:12.000 Because that looks like classic government ops, where they just have all sorts of other operations coming in at the same time to create a fog of war.

02:41:20.000 Yes, it is.

02:41:21.000 And there were actually stunt doubles of McVeigh that we know of.

02:41:24.000 There were two teams that carried this thing off. 1.00

02:41:26.000 One to actually do the dirty deed, and of course McVeigh and his useful idiots to take the fall. 1.00

02:41:30.000 There were many concentric circles in play. 1.00

02:41:33.000 Exactly.

02:41:34.000 And of course, none of them know all of it.

02:41:36.000 I mean, it's like the London, the 7-7 bombing.

02:41:40.000 Clearly, if you research that, they hired these guys to be part of a drill.

02:41:43.000 They had the drill.

02:41:45.000 And they blew them up on board the bus and the train.

02:41:48.000 Some of them got away.

02:41:49.000 It was even in the news that Canary Wharf, the police machine gunned them and just said, you didn't see that.

02:41:54.000 I mean, it's so easy to do this stuff.

02:41:56.000 It's amazing.

02:41:57.000 They run the same script. 0.87

02:41:58.000 And it's so disgusting. 0.84

02:42:01.000 It's appalling to see how they pull this off.

02:42:03.000 Continuing with the concentric team, sorry.

02:42:06.000 We have basically the two teams downtown.

02:42:10.000 There were at least 12 individuals.

02:42:12.000 They were sighted as early as 6 o'clock that morning, actually running, jogging the escape routes they were going to take.

02:42:18.000 Well, at the same time, the Oklahoma bomb squad is at the courthouse across from the Murrell building, looking for explosives, and they never found any there.

02:42:29.000 That says, eyewitness reports CNN as early as 6 a.m.

02:42:33.000 6.15 a.m.

02:42:34.000 there was the Oklahoma County Sheriff's Department and the ATF actually doing a roadblock, a bottleneck, 10 blocks away checking vehicles for incendiary devices.

02:42:43.000 What about the head of the FBI anti-terrorism crew lying and saying he was in Dallas and then got a flight but then later it was proven credit card receipts he was there days before?

02:42:53.000 Danny Colson drove up at least 18 hours before.

02:42:55.000 The credit card receipts at the embassy suite does corroborate that.

02:42:58.000 So we're not quite sure why he chose to, as they say, distort the truth.

02:43:01.000 But that's his deal.

02:43:03.000 So the credibility, right, it was gone.

02:43:06.000 I can't believe anything he says.

02:43:08.000 Ironically, Janet Reno removed him from the case four days after the bombing because he had basically turned and said, look, I show up for work every day.

02:43:16.000 I'm supposed to do a good job on here.

02:43:17.000 I want to investigate this case correctly.

02:43:19.000 And she says, no, we don't need you on the team here.

02:43:21.000 We're bringing in another team to completely corrupt this. 0.71

02:43:24.000 What about ATF because you had some of the emergency crews saying ATF was there in bomb gear and in their raid gear saying bandage me up I was on the ninth floor and they're like everybody it's on record that that thing was empty and they weren't on the ninth floor the elevator was blown out.

02:43:39.000 That's right exactly in fact it was Dr. Chumley that told these guys to take a flying leap.

02:43:44.000 She was a paramedic. 0.75

02:43:46.000 She arrived four to five minutes after, and she said that there were agents in full gear.

02:43:51.000 And then you've got other witnesses saying that they overheard the ATF say, is this why we got the page not to come in today?

02:43:58.000 So, I mean, there is a mountain of evidence of foreknowledge.

02:44:02.000 The FBI evacuation of the building, a separate building that morning.

02:44:07.000 And it's because a very small part of the government's involved with foreign black ops and others that this does come up.

02:44:13.000 People always say, well, this stuff would come out if it was real.

02:44:15.000 It did come out.

02:44:16.000 Yes.

02:44:16.000 And in fact, it's out in full view right now.

02:44:19.000 And that's why we're able to assemble all of the information.

02:44:21.000 Folks, I can guarantee you right now, you have never heard, I'd say probably 70 percent of this has never been posted on.

02:44:27.000 Well I'll tell you what, for your safety, I mean obviously the film's coming out in the winter and I can't wait to carry it at InfoWars.com and get it out to people.

02:44:35.000 I know you guys are great researchers and have done a lot of original work, but for your own safety and for knowledge out there, I know you've already released some of this footage, it's so important, tell people some of the new developments you've discovered.

02:44:46.000 Well, we have over 10 hours of footage that hasn't been seen by the general public before, and over a thousand photographs.

02:44:52.000 We've got excellent footage of the crater, and it's completely offset from the large bite in the building, and as General Partin said, that the building, First bomb would have been around the third floor.

02:45:06.000 Well, you can actually see, I mean, it's probably, you know, 30, 40 feet offset from the small crater where the car bomb was, and then the floors are actually concave around the third floor.

02:45:16.000 So you can see that was the biggest bite in the building, where it blasted that out.

02:45:21.000 You had people said that they heard what sounded like a rifle shot, a high-powered rifle shot, which is It works the same way with the C4.

02:45:31.000 It wouldn't have been as loud of an explosion.

02:45:33.000 And that's where you hear all of the survivors talking about rubble coming down.

02:45:38.000 People getting under their desks.

02:45:39.000 They had time to get under their desks, and then the car bomb goes off outside.

02:45:43.000 The bus tilts twice.

02:45:45.000 Yes, twice.

02:45:45.000 Six blocks away.

02:45:46.000 Fourteen people were in that building, had enough wherewithal, the cognitive ability to take cover.

02:45:51.000 That simply wouldn't have happened if they would have been hit.

02:45:54.000 And you see the repeat with the Feds.

02:45:56.000 They love to have their diversion.

02:45:59.000 You know, the plane flies in, then the buildings blow up, and then no one notices the 47-story building not hit that falls in perfectly.

02:46:06.000 We interviewed the guy who was the deputy head of emergency management.

02:46:09.000 He says, yeah, there were bodies.

02:46:10.000 You know, they blew it up.

02:46:11.000 Then he dies mysteriously.

02:46:13.000 But I mean, it's the same thing here.

02:46:15.000 Real bombs go off, diversionary truck bomb, because the public's going to go, well, how did they get bombs inside? 0.99

02:46:21.000 I mean, it's sick how their psychopathic brains work. 0.98

02:46:25.000 It's criminology. 0.99

02:46:25.000 They do the same stuff over and over again. 0.99

02:46:27.000 And the lack of humanity.

02:46:29.000 I mean, the children that were in the building.

02:46:31.000 Well, it's a gambit.

02:46:32.000 I mean, when you understand the military officer mind...

02:46:36.000 And this goes back thousands of years.

02:46:37.000 They write about it.

02:46:38.000 Now, you know, let's say you're Alexander the Great or you're Julius Caesar or somebody else.

02:46:42.000 If you send out a detachment of, say, 50 guys into a valley where you know an army is set, but you want to draw them out and see their numbers, you know your 50 guys are going to get cut off and killed.

02:46:51.000 But now your argument is that'll save 100,000 of your main army because now you've gotten that intel.

02:46:57.000 The ends justify the means.

02:46:58.000 And so the ends justifies the means.

02:47:00.000 The noble lie.

02:47:01.000 And so America needs to take over. 0.99

02:47:03.000 The Arabs are dangerous. 1.00

02:47:04.000 We're going to blow these buildings. 0.98

02:47:05.000 And we need a Pearl Harbor-level event, as the PNAC document said by the Vice President, to get this done.

02:47:10.000 And it's the same thing in Oklahoma City.

02:47:12.000 They've got their collectivist world government.

02:47:14.000 All these states were moving to get out of the U.N.

02:47:17.000 and to declare a 10th Amendment.

02:47:18.000 Well, we'll just blow the hell out of this building and blame it on the patriots.

02:47:21.000 Within 10 minutes, Bill Clinton said, talk radio.

02:47:21.000 And that's what they did.

02:47:24.000 Rush Limbaugh, it's your fault.

02:47:25.000 You know, and they're already digging this back up to demonize the renewed patriot movement in this country.

02:47:31.000 You know, we've got a researcher, Kay Beach, who's going to talk about the MIAC report and the Department of Homeland Security right-wing extremism lexicon and how they use the Oklahoma City bombing to demonize the Tea Party.

02:47:45.000 It's like, oh, if you believe in supporting the Constitution and you oppose tyranny, well, you're a McVeigh.

02:47:50.000 You're one of those government haters.

02:47:51.000 Oh, no, they say I'm a McVeigh.

02:47:53.000 And boy, I tell you, the Southern Poverty Law Center and that Chris Matthews documentary, they call me by my first name.

02:47:59.000 Oh, Alex, we're not saying he's going to cause violence, but his followers are.

02:48:04.000 So now I guess I'm I've never talked to these people, but they're on a first name basis.

02:48:08.000 That's how much they're because I know they don't like it that I talk about how they were running on L.A.

02:48:12.000 City.

02:48:13.000 Well, we were doing the 15th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing press conference at the same time there was a tea party going on outside in Oklahoma City.

02:48:20.000 And this is at the time that there was a lot of talk about militias again.

02:48:25.000 And nobody was really even talking about it.

02:48:26.000 They were talking about like a volunteer force to take over because all the National Guards deployed.

02:48:31.000 And we, you know, we have a lot of natural disaster in Oklahoma and they wanted to have some volunteers ready to go in and help.

02:48:36.000 And that's all that Charles... Civil defense.

02:48:37.000 Yeah, 22 states have... Charles Key wants a militia to attack the government.

02:48:41.000 And all of that information that came out was not on the tape.

02:48:44.000 It was not in the interview.

02:48:46.000 The editor took the reporter's story and completely fabricated all this stuff.

02:48:50.000 Well, no, that's like Rand Paul.

02:48:53.000 There's like a two-second delay and he's like, excuse me, yes, yes, I can hear you.

02:48:57.000 Oh, you agree with getting rid of the Civil Rights Act. 0.84

02:49:00.000 No, I don't.

02:49:01.000 And then they ran the headline, he says, get rid of the Civil Rights Act.

02:49:04.000 I mean, these are hoaxers. 0.96

02:49:05.000 These are slime bags. 0.97

02:49:05.000 Sure. 0.97

02:49:07.000 These are crooks. 0.96

02:49:08.000 And it makes you wonder what they're cooking up, because in the public mind, they're trying to link a patriot movement to militias to violence. 0.98

02:49:16.000 Yeah.

02:49:16.000 Muslims.

02:49:17.000 So now they're trying to say that the militias have linked up with Al Qaeda. 1.00

02:49:21.000 Can you believe those dirty American... I mean, yeah, the good old boys are working with Al-Qaeda when that's admitted CIA. 0.98

02:49:27.000 I mean, folks, they're getting ready to set you up.

02:49:30.000 The offshore banks know you're awake to what they've done and they're going to blow stuff up and blame it on you.

02:49:34.000 Unless we trump them with the info.

02:49:36.000 And let me tell you, this hit in 15 years ago.

02:49:37.000 People know about false flag terror now.

02:49:40.000 It has entered the lexicon.

02:49:42.000 And that's why it's so important for this information to get out now, because again, they're using it to demonize the Renewed Patriot Movement in this country.

02:49:47.000 You guys better hurry.

02:49:48.000 They could stage more stack attacks, more Oklahoma cities any day.

02:49:57.000 What we'd like to ask the viewers is to keep an open mind when this movie comes out, and thanks in no small part to you, Alex.

02:50:03.000 I mean, you were definitely the support over the years.

02:50:06.000 You were the inspiration for us to continue on.

02:50:07.000 There were many times that we wanted to set this aside because, literally, cognitive and mentally, it was so overwhelming.

02:50:13.000 It was so bad.

02:50:14.000 It was so deep.

02:50:15.000 It was so far down the rabbit hole.

02:50:17.000 But... Well, when you know they're lying about that, then you start... Everything's a lie.

02:50:22.000 Well, that's why we want to get the truth out.

02:50:22.000 Exactly.

02:50:24.000 I mean, I believe that bravery is contagious, you know, and I'm a member of We Are Change, and I really take that to heart, that we have to be the change that we want to see in the world.

02:50:32.000 It's an internal process.

02:50:33.000 We can change the outside by changing the inside.

02:50:35.000 Final five minutes.

02:50:35.000 All right, stay there.

02:50:36.000 Let's talk about that on the other side, because if we don't expose Oklahoma City, we can't expose 9-11.

02:50:41.000 We can't expose the Gulf of Tonkin.

02:50:43.000 We can't expose these false flag events.

02:50:45.000 They're using them to enslave us.

02:50:46.000 We'll be right back.

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02:54:09.000 Key video up on Infowars.com.

02:54:12.000 It's just now going up there right now.

02:54:14.000 Look at this one.

02:54:14.000 This is out of KDVR out of Denver, Colorado.

02:54:17.000 Thieves could go free while victim faces jail time.

02:54:20.000 Two illegal aliens were stealing his trailer.

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02:54:47.000 We'll have him back on when the film comes out, but he's done deep research and he's part of the film team.

02:54:52.000 Holland, you've worked on the Oklahoma City connections to Oklahoma.

02:54:57.000 Just real fast, rattle some of those off.

02:54:59.000 Well, we have a lot of concrete connections.

02:55:02.000 For one, Hussein Al-Husseini, who was named as John Doe No.

02:55:06.000 2 by Jayna Davis at KFOR-TV in Oklahoma, filmed, named specifically by witnesses on the scene as that was the man who was in the truck, Hussein Al-Husseini.

02:55:16.000 He later works for Boston's Logan Airport on the day of 9-11.

02:55:19.000 He was a baggage handler.

02:55:20.000 And as I recall, two of the hijackers flew out of there and that's where their luggage went through and they found incriminating will and so forth.

02:55:27.000 And then you have like Melvin Lattimore, a man whose original credit cards were used in the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993.

02:55:33.000 He was a known confederate of Tim McVeigh and Fatima Vey in 1995 before the bombing.

02:55:39.000 And later on, he was a roommate of the 20th hijacker, the 20th 9-11 hijacker.

02:55:44.000 And the guy that got his head sawed off, he was at an airbase and loaned his laptop to one of the 9-11 hijackers.

02:55:49.000 Well he was on a bus in Oklahoma City and loaned his laptop to one of the hijackers who used it to email the 20th hijacker in Minnesota.

02:55:55.000 But this was like in the year 2000.

02:55:57.000 I mean they didn't have wireless access on buses back then.

02:55:58.000 to email the 20th hijacker in Minnesota.

02:56:01.000 But this was like in the year 2000.

02:56:03.000 I mean, they didn't have wireless access on buses back then.

02:56:06.000 I don't think they even have it now. - The point is, this is a spy nest. - Yeah, so I mean, there was at least one researcher who appeared before the 9/11 Commission to testify that Norman, Oklahoma was home to an Al Qaeda cell prior to 9/11.

02:56:18.000 Well, no one's ever been prosecuted or arrested in this cell, so obviously what was going on, there may have been some kind of logistics or support cell going on, but there were a lot of things going on, and the only way to view all of these events, World Trade Center 93, Oakland City, 9-11, is that they're not isolated.

02:56:34.000 They are connected.

02:56:34.000 They use some of the same people.

02:56:35.000 They use the same SOPs.

02:56:37.000 The same cover-up methods.

02:56:39.000 They disregard the videotapes.

02:56:40.000 The videotapes of the Pentagon.

02:56:42.000 We've never seen a plane crashing into the Pentagon.

02:56:45.000 We've never seen the videotapes of what happened in front of the Murrah Building.

02:56:47.000 They wire a building, fly a plane in, wire a building, bomb a truck.

02:56:51.000 It's not bad enough that they blow up a truck bomb outside a building, that they fly a plane into the building.

02:56:55.000 They got to wire The building with explosives to increase the body count.

02:56:58.000 It's the same SOP.

02:56:59.000 And unless, and one of the points about this movie is unless we confront the people who are doing this, bring them to justice, this is gonna keep on going.

02:57:06.000 It's gonna keep on happening and each time it's gonna get worse.

02:57:09.000 How did you get involved in this?

02:57:12.000 I'm from Oklahoma, I started researching the case, and I started doing some research on my own, putting out a hand-printed newsletter that I would hand out, and I met Chris Emery at an event where he's handing out copies of the final report.

02:57:22.000 September of 2005.

02:57:23.000 We started to collaborate, we started collaborating at other conferences, Truth Conferences, Low Power FM's, radio shows, and this is just another step in trying to expose the truth.

02:57:32.000 It's been an honor, it's been, you know, this meeting Chris really set me on the path to finding the right thing to do here.

02:57:39.000 And that's Holland O. Van Der Neuwenhoff.

02:57:42.000 Am I pronouncing that right?

02:57:43.000 Van Den Neuwenhoff.

02:57:45.000 I always get names wrong here.

02:57:46.000 It's all right.

02:57:47.000 Well, it's always good to have you on.

02:57:48.000 I had you on, what, two, three years ago?

02:57:50.000 About three or four years ago on when I posted my first articles about the connection between 9-11.

02:57:53.000 Yeah, that was a good story.

02:57:56.000 If I may, if we have a second, I want to give a special mention to Devin Winter, our director of photography and our production coordinator.

02:58:01.000 Devin has actually followed a lot of your work for the last seven, eight years.

02:58:05.000 He came on board with this film and he says, I'm in because I want the truth to come out.

02:58:09.000 And he's actually done a lot of the commercial interviews for the official story.

02:58:12.000 And he says, that doesn't hold water.

02:58:14.000 He says, I want to come on board with your That's wonderful.

02:58:16.000 We look forward to interviewing him when the film comes out.

02:58:18.000 Because if they keep staging these terror attacks and blaming it on the Patriots, we're going to lose this war to defend America and save the Republic.

02:58:24.000 Folks, most terrorism is staged.

02:58:26.000 It's being used to enslave you and your family.

02:58:28.000 Stand up and say no.

02:58:29.000 Thanks for coming in, guys.

02:58:31.000 Good job to the crew today.

02:58:32.000 See you back live tomorrow, 11 a.m.

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Alex Jones Show - September 09, 2010

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