Alex Jones Show - 20100923_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream Media Government Cover-Ups You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 Well, I almost went to jail this morning.

00:00:29.000 Just about an hour ago, on my way into work, I'll be telling you that story coming up in the next segment.

00:00:39.000 We are live.

00:00:40.000 It is Thursday, the 23rd day of September 2010.

00:00:46.000 I am your host, Alex Jones.

00:00:48.000 We have a very well-respected historian that the AP, Reuters, London Independent, The Guardian, and others are reporting on from the Chinese government's own annals, Frank Dikotter.

00:01:05.000 We'll be joining us from Rome.

00:01:09.000 Has written a new book about Mao Tse-Tung killing 45 million people in four years alone.

00:01:16.000 Now on record, the CIA put him into power.

00:01:19.000 That's now declassified in 1949.

00:01:21.000 On record.

00:01:23.000 They even brag about it on the History Channel.

00:01:25.000 And of course he killed tens of millions after he got warmed up killing the 45 mil. 0.99

00:01:31.000 We're all trained how to worship government and lick the boots of the police. 0.85

00:01:35.000 And we've been trained in America to be slaves basically.

00:01:39.000 And that's why our republic is being imploded right now.

00:01:43.000 So I thought we'd look at Mao Tse-Tung, who was the model for this corporate world government, in the words of David Rockefeller in 1976 in the New York Times.

00:01:53.000 We went to the microfilm to pull up that article.

00:01:55.000 It's actually in my film, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.

00:02:00.000 And then we've got Judith McGeary.

00:02:02.000 They've got this Food Safety Act that will basically shut down family farms and ranches. 1.00

00:02:07.000 They're trying to pass this week.

00:02:08.000 She'll be joining us from Texas.

00:02:11.000 She's a lawyer and farm owner. 1.00

00:02:14.000 She was going to be on a few days ago, but her husband got attacked by a hornet.

00:02:16.000 He's going to go to the hospital.

00:02:18.000 So he's better now.

00:02:19.000 She'll be joining us coming up in the third hour of radio broadcast today.

00:02:27.000 I've got enough adrenaline flowing through me right now to fuel 15 or 20 stampeding elephants because I saw for my own eyes the death of this country about an hour and 10 minutes ago yet again.

00:02:40.000 The strange thing was I went and visited some family that lives out in Lakeway, stayed there last night.

00:02:46.000 I went for a jog this morning.

00:02:49.000 And said bye to my wife and children.

00:02:52.000 And I was just thinking about talking about the police state today and the culture of living in a tyranny.

00:02:59.000 And how the system is passing laws to make common people criminals so they can basically incarcerate us all or get fake convictions against us to put us into the system.

00:03:10.000 But then the big criminals, the central banks, the Kinley types, most of the time get away with the real crimes that are going on.

00:03:19.000 And I thought about how anywhere I am in the United States now, police come over and shake my hand.

00:03:24.000 They're waking up.

00:03:26.000 Every time I'm downtown eating, every time, police stop their cars or stop their bikes or their Segways and come over and say, we appreciate what you're doing.

00:03:37.000 But then we see all these videos of police out of control around the country and we wonder what's the separation there?

00:03:45.000 Why are we seeing these two different polar opposites?

00:03:47.000 And I know why.

00:03:49.000 They are training and encouraging thuggism and thuggish behavior and intimidating the people. 1.00

00:03:56.000 And they are promoting thugs.

00:03:58.000 I've seen this over and over again.

00:03:59.000 I know one of my friends who is paralyzed from the chest down.

00:04:03.000 The cops pulled him over.

00:04:04.000 They said, what are these hand controls?

00:04:06.000 He said, I'm paralyzed.

00:04:07.000 They said, no, you're not.

00:04:08.000 Get out of the car.

00:04:08.000 He said, well, my wife's got to get the wheelchair out of the back.

00:04:11.000 I can't walk.

00:04:12.000 And the cop pulled him out, beat him up.

00:04:14.000 And then that cop got promoted to being a commander.

00:04:17.000 And it was basically the same thing this morning.

00:04:23.000 When I saw the checkpoint, or whatever it was, I was trying to find out, in a neighborhood, I pulled over into a side street, I got out politely, put on my most charming demeanor, and I'm gonna go through it word for word for you.

00:04:37.000 I've written notes here of exactly what happened, blow by blow, and...

00:04:42.000 This state police officer walked up to me with total hate because to him I'm a blood bag.

00:04:47.000 To him I'm a T-bone steak.

00:04:49.000 I am here to provide his paycheck and to provide his ego a power trip and nothing more.

00:04:56.000 Had a lot of trouble controlling myself.

00:04:58.000 We'll be right back.

00:04:58.000 Stay with us.

00:04:59.000 You may be arrested and or subject to other police action.

00:05:04.000 Tyranny is here.

00:05:05.000 The grim future foretold in 1984 has become reality.

00:05:09.000 It really says that the state is God.

00:05:11.000 The United States is now recognized globally as one of the most oppressive police states on Earth.

00:05:17.000 This film conclusively proves the existence of a secret network of FEMA camps now being expanded nationwide.

00:05:24.000 This documentary exposes how the continuity of government program has established an all-powerful shadow state.

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00:05:38.000 Body scanners, sound cannons, citizen spies, stage terror and cameras on every street corner.

00:05:44.000 It's only the beginning of the New World Order's hellish plan. 0.92

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00:08:01.000 We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center in the heart of the Resistance.

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00:08:12.000 It's no longer denied the United States is listed by major universities as the sixth most oppressive police state in the world.

00:08:21.000 Naked body scanners are now going mobile, not just the airports.

00:08:24.000 They are saving your naked bodies' images. 0.54

00:08:27.000 They are bathing you in radiation.

00:08:29.000 The feds have now deployed 500 high-powered radiation vans that look right through your walls, violating the Fourth Amendment.

00:08:38.000 Israeli companies and others are on record, nationwide, hired by Homeland Security to spy on Tea Party groups, land rights groups, Second Amendment groups, forming dossiers on citizens.

00:08:50.000 There are now criminal investigations in states like Pennsylvania.

00:08:54.000 The head of state, Homeland Security, has been missing for two weeks, hiding.

00:08:58.000 Since this broke, it is all completely illegal.

00:09:01.000 Foreign banks have taken over the United States.

00:09:04.000 They've stolen at least $28 trillion in the last two years, according to Bloomberg.

00:09:09.000 The country is completely bankrupt.

00:09:10.000 They have tripled the number of police, and they are trying to train them that the American people are their enemy.

00:09:17.000 Now, I'm going to get into all the financial news.

00:09:20.000 All of the political news, everything that's happening.

00:09:24.000 Listeners yesterday made news again.

00:09:28.000 You did it.

00:09:28.000 I salute you.

00:09:29.000 You made the search term dealing with President Obama and the fact that they may stage an attack or let terrorists attack as a pretext to get more control and win the election.

00:09:39.000 We have White House officials and advisors saying a terror attack would help them.

00:09:43.000 We have the former head of Homeland Security, Governor Ridge, writing a book admitting that Bush issued fake terror alerts for political aims.

00:09:51.000 You made that the number one and number two search engine terms.

00:09:54.000 CNET News picked it up.

00:09:56.000 Many other newspapers and publications, CBS picked it up.

00:10:00.000 Good job.

00:10:01.000 Hundreds of thousands of additional people are now reading Paul Joseph Watson's powerful article, Will Obama Force America to Absorb a Terror Attack to Save His Presidency?

00:10:12.000 So, great job.

00:10:13.000 To the listeners.

00:10:14.000 We have a historian coming on with new evidence of just how many people Mao Zedong killed in the next hour.

00:10:21.000 I'll probably be listed as anti-government by the state police for criticizing Mao Zedong.

00:10:25.000 Their hero, I guess.

00:10:26.000 But that is all coming up as well.

00:10:29.000 Then we'll talk to Judith McGeary.

00:10:31.000 Uh, lawyer and farm owner, uh, who is extremely prominent and heads up farmandranchfreedom.org, dealing with this legislation to further shut down farms and ranches nationwide.

00:10:43.000 Federal regulations have been passed for $15 million fines for garage sales.

00:10:48.000 Uh, they are trying to pass laws for $5,000 fines for growing tomatoes in your backyard.

00:10:53.000 Uh, total hell is being released on the American people as they try to break our back and train us that we're slaves. 0.68

00:11:00.000 Now, Let me get into what happened this morning.

00:11:03.000 I didn't stay at my house last night.

00:11:04.000 I was visiting family out in Lakeway.

00:11:07.000 We stayed out there last night.

00:11:10.000 I got in the car to come into work.

00:11:13.000 And I was driving around in a neighborhood, in a neighborhood, and saw five, six, seven, it was probably about seven, I didn't have time to count them all, squad cars, state police squad cars.

00:11:25.000 And they had one of those little tents set up on the side of the road.

00:11:29.000 And I turned into a neighborhood and parked by somebody's driveway.

00:11:34.000 And I walked up and I politely said, hey, how you doing troopers?

00:11:39.000 What's going on?

00:11:41.000 Because, again, I wanted to see.

00:11:44.000 And, of course, my iPhone, I checked it as I pulled up.

00:11:46.000 It was out of batteries.

00:11:49.000 It's an old one, so the batteries burn out.

00:11:51.000 It only takes a charge for about 45 minutes.

00:11:53.000 It was dead.

00:11:53.000 Or I would have taken photos with it or recorded audio to document what was going on.

00:11:59.000 But I just pulled over, and I do this all the time.

00:12:02.000 One time I saw a bunch of police and news on 360, and I pulled off at a restaurant, walked over, the police, Austin police, didn't run up and get in my face, and I talked to the media, and I said, well, I said, what's going on?

00:12:15.000 Very politely, and they said, somebody keeps turning the gas on in the neighborhood, and turning the gas off, and they actually then, hey, can we get a quote from you about what you think of this?

00:12:25.000 So I was on the local news, some folks saw that earlier this year.

00:12:29.000 But I do that all the time.

00:12:31.000 If I see a police checkpoint, whether it's on I-35 or in a neighborhood, it's been ruled by the Supreme Court and state courts that it's illegal, and I pull up and walk over and I ask questions, and I'm polite, I stay back at a distance and say, hey!

00:12:45.000 They come over, what's going on?

00:12:46.000 And usually they don't treat me like a slave, they treat their boss, the citizen, Uh, that pays their bill.

00:12:53.000 I've had cops tell me, oh, no, I pay taxes too.

00:12:56.000 I pay my salary.

00:12:57.000 No, the government takes two private sector jobs for every government job.

00:13:01.000 Get it through your head.

00:13:02.000 Okay?

00:13:02.000 We pay your salary and you know it.

00:13:04.000 Okay?

00:13:05.000 So there's this arrogance, kind of like Obama's aunt saying, I'm an illegal alien and you owe me welfare.

00:13:10.000 You owe me citizenship.

00:13:12.000 It's this arrogance.

00:13:13.000 So I'm going to go through exactly what happened.

00:13:16.000 Then I'm going to walk through how this affects everybody.

00:13:18.000 And I was already going to talk about this today.

00:13:20.000 It's funny this happened.

00:13:22.000 So, I'm driving down this side street by a neighborhood.

00:13:26.000 A little two-lane road, and there's all these state police milling around, and it looked like what I saw a few months ago when I went to Slitterbond in New Braunfels.

00:13:34.000 And we had booked it, again, a little motel there to take my kids, but it was such a police state, I canceled it.

00:13:39.000 And I said I was going to cancel it, and I probably won't go back to Slitterbond because the police are so bad down there.

00:13:44.000 But of course, you can't run.

00:13:45.000 I mean, they're putting it in everywhere.

00:13:47.000 But I noticed every day that when people were getting off the river, the police were taking photos of them, they had tents set up, they were taking people to jail.

00:13:57.000 And I drove through one of those and my inspection sticker was out.

00:14:02.000 I hadn't noticed it.

00:14:03.000 Pulled me over, gave me a ticket, whatever.

00:14:06.000 But the issue is the illegal aliens can drunk drive, they're above the law, the police are told to leave them alone. 0.99

00:14:12.000 So, again, I'm the mark.

00:14:14.000 I'm the citizen that deserves all of this.

00:14:16.000 So it looked like one of those checkpoints, I know the state police were trying to put them in place again in the state of Texas.

00:14:22.000 So I pulled off, pulled down a side street about 60, 70 yards down.

00:14:30.000 Even thought about it, I said, well, you know, this is mailboxes and people's houses, I can park here.

00:14:35.000 I knew they might try to say I was parked illegally.

00:14:37.000 You know, any way to get you in their system.

00:14:38.000 That's why they passed laws, $15 million fines for garage sales.

00:14:41.000 It's about $5,000 fines for tomatoes being grown in your backyard.

00:14:45.000 It's about getting you in the system.

00:14:47.000 That's what tyranny is.

00:14:48.000 And I walk up...

00:14:50.000 And there's all these state police officers standing around, probably six, seven, eight, nine, maybe more, but that's just who I could see.

00:14:57.000 By the way, they were parked out in the road.

00:14:58.000 They weren't even parked all the way on the shoulder.

00:15:00.000 So it's a two-lane road, and people were having to stop because you couldn't drive two cars down the road because the state police were all parked haphazardly halfway in the road.

00:15:09.000 You see this all the time.

00:15:10.000 It's almost like it's their enjoyment to block traffic and train you, the slave, that they can do whatever they want. 0.65

00:15:16.000 But I walk up politely, and I'm about 30 yards away, and they say, what do you want?

00:15:23.000 And this state police officer starts walking over to me, and he literally was about as tall as Yosemite Sam.

00:15:29.000 Folks, I'm 5'10".

00:15:30.000 I'm not into how tall you are, how big you are, but there is that Napoleonic complex, and the feds have admitted they've written handbooks to hire police now with only under 100 IQ, and they like to hire short ones.

00:15:42.000 This is on record who have a Napoleonic complex.

00:15:44.000 You'll notice most of the commanders now are barely pushing five feet because they got something to prove.

00:15:49.000 And this guy who literally looked like Yosemite Sam.

00:15:53.000 I mean, he was so little I thought he was a munchkin because I'm not big and he came up to my chest.

00:15:58.000 I mean, I had like a foot on him.

00:16:00.000 Yosemite Sam comes up and I said, how you doing?

00:16:04.000 And he said, who are you?

00:16:08.000 Like a drill instructor.

00:16:09.000 Who are you?

00:16:10.000 And I said, oh, I'm Alex Jones.

00:16:12.000 He didn't know who I was.

00:16:13.000 I said, I'm Alex Jones.

00:16:15.000 And I was still being nice.

00:16:16.000 And I said, hey, what are you guys doing?

00:16:18.000 And he goes, none of your business.

00:16:18.000 Is this a checkpoint?

00:16:21.000 Get out of here! 0.99

00:16:23.000 Just pointed his finger at me and showed his teeth. 1.00

00:16:25.000 I mean, how dare a scumbag citizen think this is a free country? 0.99

00:16:30.000 You don't talk to a king, a savior, a lord. 1.00

00:16:33.000 He said, get in your car and get out of here!

00:16:36.000 And I said, well, you're not being very nice.

00:16:39.000 And I said, I just walked over here and politely asked you what you're doing.

00:16:44.000 And he said, none of your business.

00:16:45.000 I said, get out of here. 0.56

00:16:46.000 And he said, you're parked illegally.

00:16:49.000 And I looked back and knew I wasn't.

00:16:52.000 But here he was.

00:16:53.000 This is tyranny, the nature of tyranny.

00:16:55.000 And he was looking like I was about to get scared.

00:16:56.000 And I said, why don't you take me to jail and show me I'm your slave?

00:17:03.000 And then he kind of went, starts putting his hand on his gun.

00:17:08.000 I said, get out of here! 0.97

00:17:10.000 Get out of here! 0.99

00:17:11.000 And more of the state police start coming over, and some of them are smiling and looking, obviously some of them knew who I was.

00:17:16.000 And I said, I'm gonna go.

00:17:17.000 But I said, this is why America's dying and falling apart.

00:17:21.000 Because you're on a power trip.

00:17:22.000 And I said, I knew when I came over here you were gonna treat me like this.

00:17:26.000 And I was as polite as I could be to you.

00:17:29.000 But I said, you listen and you tune into this radio frequency.

00:17:33.000 The local station we're on.

00:17:34.000 I said, you tune in, You tune in one hour from now.

00:17:39.000 And I got in my car, and boy, they were there getting my license plate and reading it and smiling at me.

00:17:45.000 They love their database.

00:17:47.000 They love it.

00:17:47.000 They love the control.

00:17:49.000 Oh, it was so good.

00:17:51.000 And then once I got out on Main 620, here came a sheriff's department car.

00:17:56.000 I guess they'd called in and he got right behind me and were following me and I was trying to get my phone charged and finally got it working and called Jaron, because I had a, you know, in-car charger.

00:18:05.000 Finally got it to boot up and I said, Jaron, you know, who knows what's going to happen to me, but they left me alone.

00:18:09.000 But they followed me all the way down 620.

00:18:13.000 All the way down 620, just let me know, listen, you don't get uppity with us.

00:18:19.000 It's like that movie, Ants, where the grasshoppers are sitting around, they go, we got all this food, boss.

00:18:24.000 You know, why are we going back to fight with those ants?

00:18:26.000 We don't need them to be our slaves.

00:18:28.000 And he said, those puny little ants outnumber us a thousand to one.

00:18:33.000 And if they ever figure that out, it's over for us.

00:18:38.000 And so I'm talking to Jaron this morning.

00:18:41.000 He goes, well, guess what happened to me?

00:18:43.000 He's taking some folks to the airport at 4 a.m.

00:18:46.000 this morning.

00:18:47.000 He pulls in to gas up and he goes in to get a Gatorade and this guy's trying to break into his car.

00:18:56.000 He goes out starts yelling at him saying stop.

00:18:58.000 The guy starts trying to attack him.

00:19:00.000 Jaron knocks him out.

00:19:02.000 Yells at him for about three minutes.

00:19:05.000 Knocks him out.

00:19:06.000 After the guy swings him a couple times and Jaron, you know, they missed him.

00:19:11.000 Thug missed him.

00:19:12.000 And then Jaron knocked him out.

00:19:14.000 You know, punched him in the nose.

00:19:16.000 And the police pull up a few minutes later when the guy's getting up off the ground.

00:19:21.000 And the first few police show up and then it's a female cop. 1.00

00:19:24.000 The guy gets up and starts charging her.

00:19:26.000 So she pulls her taser out.

00:19:27.000 He's clearly whacked out of his mind on drugs.

00:19:31.000 And Then another cop pulls up and goes, yeah, I heard you screaming and saw that going on.

00:19:36.000 They were right by the access road.

00:19:37.000 The cop, one cop saw it and just kept on driving because it wasn't an old lady he could pull over and make a little money off of. 1.00

00:19:45.000 No, it was a guy being attacked in a parking lot at 5 a.m.

00:19:50.000 after dropping friends off at the airport.

00:19:52.000 So there you go.

00:19:53.000 I'm going to come back and I'm going to talk to Officer, oh, I'm sorry, Sergeant Baker.

00:19:57.000 I forgot part of the story.

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00:23:58.000 Guys, order another round because we're staying here. 0.69

00:24:06.000 Yeah.

00:24:09.000 What was I thinking going back to Ant Island?

00:24:13.000 I mean, we just got here, and we have more than enough food to get us through the winter, right?

00:24:18.000 right was that and this Yeah, but we can forget about him.

00:24:29.000 Yeah, it was just one ant.

00:24:32.000 One ant.

00:24:32.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:24:36.000 It's just one ant.

00:24:38.000 Yeah, but they're puny.

00:24:41.000 Puny? 0.99

00:24:42.000 Say, let's pretend this brain is a puny little ant. 0.99

00:24:48.000 Did that hurt? 0.99

00:24:50.000 Well, how about this one?

00:24:50.000 Nope.

00:24:52.000 Are you kidding?

00:25:00.000 Well, how about this?

00:25:09.000 You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up.

00:25:15.000 Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one. 0.97

00:25:20.000 And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life!

00:25:25.000 It's not about food.

00:25:27.000 It's about keeping those... I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

00:25:37.000 Thomas Jefferson.

00:25:39.000 It's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:25:44.000 And that's from A Bug's Life.

00:25:48.000 It's not about food.

00:25:49.000 It's about keeping those ants in line.

00:25:53.000 So, a puny little ant saw what appeared to be a checkpoint.

00:25:57.000 I didn't know.

00:25:58.000 They may have been doing something else.

00:26:01.000 But it looked like other checkpoints I've seen.

00:26:02.000 I politely park, walk over, wait for one of my kings, my lords, my owners, to walk over and I politely say, Hi Trooper, how you doing?

00:26:12.000 What's going on out here?

00:26:14.000 Who are you?

00:26:16.000 Well, I'm Alex Jones.

00:26:18.000 Get in your car and get out of here!

00:26:22.000 And just...

00:26:24.000 He looked crazy.

00:26:24.000 He's showing his teeth at me.

00:26:25.000 Get in your car and get out of here!

00:26:28.000 Pointing his finger at me.

00:26:29.000 And I was... I knew that was what was going to happen.

00:26:33.000 I was hoping it wouldn't happen.

00:26:34.000 I was hoping he'd be a good human being and a guardian of liberty. 0.66

00:26:37.000 But he's just a midget on a power trip. 1.00

00:26:42.000 A guy in a John Wayne outfit, who's no John Wayne, out there in his John Wayne costume, Yosemite Sam, Yeah, that'll be the new name of Sergeant Baker is Yosemite Sam. 0.98

00:26:59.000 Sergeant Yosemite Sam, state police officer who, I guess, writes tickets to old ladies all day and licks the boots of illegal aliens.

00:27:08.000 You know, we know they let them go.

00:27:10.000 And they run from the border when they get shot at by the Mexican troops and cartels.

00:27:13.000 But, hey, wouldn't you if you had the American cows to milk?

00:27:20.000 I've forgotten that part of the story.

00:27:22.000 Right before I turned to leave, as he was saying, you get out of here right now, just enjoy that power.

00:27:27.000 You slave, you don't ask me anything. 0.83

00:27:28.000 You get out of here! 0.99

00:27:29.000 I looked at his name tag.

00:27:33.000 But his badge number was covered up.

00:27:36.000 They always have some little excuse or someone they're remembering to cover up the badge number, which is a violation of state law.

00:27:42.000 It's the religion to break the law for these people. 1.00

00:27:45.000 But they're the good guys.

00:27:46.000 They get to do whatever they want.

00:27:48.000 And I said, so it's Trooper Baker.

00:27:51.000 And he said, it's Sergeant Baker!

00:27:54.000 Now I said, get out of here! 1.00

00:27:56.000 It's none of your business!

00:28:00.000 And he was thinking, your only business is to pay my check and build up my ego when I pull your wife and kids over, boy.

00:28:07.000 He didn't say that, but I remember driving down 37 four or five years ago, going to Port Aransas to do some fishing with my wife and children.

00:28:17.000 And my two children at the time, now I have three, were asleep in the back, all belted in with their little, little blankets on them.

00:28:25.000 These two state police pull us over, we're going five miles over the speed limit.

00:28:29.000 And they're saying, we want the back.

00:28:31.000 We want to look and see if these seat belts are on right.

00:28:33.000 These kids are in the seats right.

00:28:35.000 And one had horrible breath, and the woman was on a power trip, and they were all acting crazed like they were wolves chasing down a sheep.

00:28:42.000 And I just said, look, you don't have any probable cause.

00:28:45.000 My children are belted in.

00:28:46.000 They're my children.

00:28:47.000 I care about them a lot more than you do.

00:28:49.000 I go, you write me your ticket, and then you let me go back on my way.

00:28:55.000 They got all puffed up, but I mean, you know, and I told him, I looked him right in the face when he was getting in my face and I said, go ahead and arrest me then and show me I'm your slave.

00:29:06.000 I don't care.

00:29:07.000 You understand that?

00:29:09.000 I don't care.

00:29:10.000 I don't care.

00:29:11.000 Okay?

00:29:12.000 I'm a real American.

00:29:14.000 You may be trained, and we've got the state federal training manuals, that the founding fathers are terrorists and America's bad and everything.

00:29:20.000 Okay, fine. 0.97

00:29:21.000 But the issue is, I'm done licking your boots. 0.99

00:29:25.000 You work for a criminal government.

00:29:27.000 The state's completely out of control, and you won't defend our borders, and all you're doing is out there revenue generating, and all over the country, state police, local police are announcing they won't respond to regular crime.

00:29:39.000 They'll only respond to sucking our blood. 0.85

00:29:42.000 And so, Sergeant Baker, out in Lakeway, Sergeant Yosemite Power Trippin' Sam.

00:29:50.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The Empire's on the run.

00:29:54.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:33:16.000 Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.

00:33:24.000 How dare I, a lowly serf, a slave, dare approach Royal State Police, guardians of the bankers, guardians of the criminal government, and dare politely ask them what they were doing, basically blocking part of the road with their squad cars parked out on both sides of the street with a tent running around out in the street.

00:33:48.000 How dare I?

00:33:50.000 It's none of your business!

00:33:51.000 Get out of here! 0.99

00:33:53.000 Get in your car!

00:33:54.000 And he was just baring his teeth and enjoying it.

00:33:58.000 This is when I was being polite.

00:34:02.000 But I gave him a look to let him know I wasn't a slave.

00:34:05.000 And I'm letting him know right now, you're not going to be able to shut down the alternative media.

00:34:08.000 Your federal bosses are trying to pass a cybersecurity act to shut down the web and shut down free speech.

00:34:14.000 I don't want to tell bad police, people who are on power trips, people that get into it because they enjoy exercising power over people.

00:34:21.000 You think you're big and bad and tough?

00:34:21.000 Don't worry.

00:34:23.000 Your bosses above you are going to take all your pension funds and you're going to love it.

00:34:27.000 They're already taking all the dead veterans' benefits, stealing them.

00:34:31.000 That's mainstream news.

00:34:33.000 They're already destroying the country and they're going to destroy you right along with it.

00:34:36.000 So you go ahead and think you're on the winning team.

00:34:38.000 You go ahead and enjoy your embarrassing power trip.

00:34:42.000 You know, why is it that big cops, I've never seen them be out of control.

00:34:47.000 It's always midget men or little tiny women, and a lot of little cops are nice too, that are completely out of their minds. 1.00

00:34:56.000 Because they got something to prove.

00:34:59.000 And the way he said it, Sergeant Baker!

00:35:03.000 I mean, he said it, Sergeant Baker!

00:35:06.000 Oh, oh, I mean, how about King Baker?

00:35:10.000 How about God Baker?

00:35:11.000 How about creator of the world?

00:35:14.000 I mean, how about...

00:35:15.000 I mean, it's so embarrassing, ladies and gentlemen.

00:35:19.000 I mean, here we are, on more than 75 AM and FM stations, global shortwave, number one internet show in the world, number one podcast, one of the top channels on YouTube, hundreds of millions of views on YouTube alone, of the top five or six downloaded films in history, three or four of them are mine, and my ego gets smaller.

00:35:42.000 Oh, I'm aggressive, I'm confident, I'm assertive, but I realize the power I have.

00:35:47.000 I realize the responsibility I have.

00:35:50.000 And then some guy's mad, I guess, that he is five feet tall or whatever, and maybe people were mean to him in high school.

00:35:57.000 I don't know.

00:35:59.000 And I'm not a big guy.

00:36:00.000 I'm 5'10", 240 pounds.

00:36:06.000 Big muscle wise.

00:36:07.000 But the point is, what was so intimidating when a nice good old boy walks up and, how you doing troopers?

00:36:13.000 What's going on here?

00:36:14.000 You know, blocking the road.

00:36:15.000 They're all over the street.

00:36:17.000 They're out here with a tent set up.

00:36:20.000 And that guy was just looking at me with hate.

00:36:24.000 And that's what tyranny is.

00:36:27.000 It's that entitlement.

00:36:30.000 And I've been having demonstrations and rallies at the state capitol.

00:36:34.000 I've been down there for more than 17 years, on air for 15.

00:36:37.000 And those state police were so nice ten years ago.

00:36:41.000 They were listeners, they were all great.

00:36:44.000 We've had rallies down there the last three or four years, and I'll walk over while somebody's speaking, hey, how you doing Trooper?

00:36:50.000 And they'll just, leave me alone, I'm not talking to you.

00:36:53.000 In fact, let me see your ID.

00:36:54.000 We've got video of that with Aaron Dykes.

00:36:56.000 Give me your ID.

00:36:57.000 Because they are promoting the ones that hate the citizens. 0.99

00:37:01.000 They are promoting the ones that are cowardly and weak and have no honor. 0.99

00:37:05.000 They are promoting people who... I'm a sergeant! 0.99

00:37:10.000 I'm a sergeant! 1.00

00:37:15.000 And you are a scumbag citizen. 1.00

00:37:16.000 At the bottom of the barrel is citizens, then it's illegal aliens, then it's bureaucrats and cops, then it's bankers and crooks. 1.00

00:37:24.000 And they can do whatever they want in this country.

00:37:27.000 And that's what all the John Wayne outfits and the fancy uniforms are about.

00:37:36.000 It's about status.

00:37:37.000 Government is the status.

00:37:39.000 And government is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

00:37:43.000 You know who said that?

00:37:45.000 George Washington, and I have FEMA on video in Kansas City, sent to me by a firefighter, to firefighters, police, and state police, with FEMA telling him George Washington was a terrorist.

00:37:59.000 Government is a dangerous servant and a fearful master, like fire, not easily controlled.

00:38:06.000 In fact, I'm paraphrasing that.

00:38:08.000 We pull up the terrorist, according to these people, George Washington.

00:38:13.000 Do you think George Washington would, somebody walked up to him when he was a militia commander and said, what are you, what's going on here?

00:38:24.000 You guys got a checkpoint here on this dirt road.

00:38:25.000 What's going on?

00:38:26.000 You think he'd say, get out of here!

00:38:28.000 It's none of your business!

00:38:30.000 Get out of here! 0.99

00:38:34.000 And I watch police.

00:38:35.000 I see them pull over two middle-aged, one of them looked like she was 75, old women. 0.97

00:38:47.000 Now that's some other article about George Washington was a terrorist.

00:38:50.000 Pull up George Washington quote, government is a dangerous servant, fearful master.

00:38:55.000 I can't remember the rest of the quote.

00:38:57.000 I want to quote the terrorist properly.

00:39:00.000 And I was ashamed for him.

00:39:03.000 But see, the globalists, the globalists want us to be ashamed of the police.

00:39:08.000 This is the psychology.

00:39:09.000 They train them to act like thugs.

00:39:11.000 They train them to be abusive.

00:39:12.000 They train them to violate rights.

00:39:13.000 They train them to be callous.

00:39:15.000 They train them to be an us-against-them mentality.

00:39:18.000 Then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

00:39:22.000 And the public starts disliking them.

00:39:24.000 And the feds, with their training, say, see, they don't like you.

00:39:27.000 You've all got to stick together.

00:39:30.000 And it's basically gang mentality.

00:39:32.000 It's the biggest street gang in the world.

00:39:34.000 And it's growing and growing and growing and growing.

00:39:36.000 And everything that's being done in the public schools and the airports and everywhere are these testing grounds, they admit, to train you to be a total prisoner.

00:39:44.000 They found the quote.

00:39:45.000 Let's put it back up on screen for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

00:39:48.000 Government is not reason.

00:39:49.000 It is not eloquence.

00:39:50.000 It is force.

00:39:51.000 Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

00:39:57.000 Let's read that quote again for people.

00:39:59.000 Now you're either with George Washington or you're against George Washington.

00:40:02.000 You either think that's extremist talk or it isn't.

00:40:04.000 Let's put it back on screen.

00:40:05.000 Government is not reason.

00:40:08.000 It is not eloquence.

00:40:10.000 It is force.

00:40:12.000 Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

00:40:17.000 And government is now trying to be our master.

00:40:21.000 Every other country in history turns into tyranny.

00:40:24.000 Every other country has an elite come in that paramilitarizes the police and uses the military against the public.

00:40:31.000 Every country sets up secret police and tattletale squads and demonization of people who don't like it.

00:40:37.000 Every government seeks to control farms and ranches and agrarian areas to dominate the public.

00:40:44.000 If you go down a checklist of tyranny, they are checking each box off repeatedly and adding new boxes.

00:40:52.000 No one can deny That this country's in trouble.

00:40:55.000 And I got news for the globalists and all their minions.

00:40:57.000 It's over.

00:40:58.000 The people are waking up.

00:40:59.000 No amount of staged terror attacks, no amount of new wars, no amount of flu hysteria, no amount of the crises you create are going to put the genie back in the bottle.

00:41:08.000 Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall.

00:41:12.000 Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. 0.88

00:41:14.000 All the king's horses and all the king's men aren't putting your stinking little tyranny back together again.

00:41:20.000 Congress can pass laws giving the UN control over our waterways and our lakes.

00:41:25.000 You can pass laws to not let us drill water wells.

00:41:28.000 People are just going to stop following what you have to say.

00:41:30.000 And as you back them up against a wall, because you want to raise the taxes and put satellite tracker boxes on all the cars to track and trace us and control us, it isn't going to work.

00:41:41.000 Okay?

00:41:42.000 And they are psychologically profiling.

00:41:44.000 Every time I mention this, people don't believe me.

00:41:46.000 It's so outrageous.

00:41:47.000 I don't blame you.

00:41:48.000 In fact, guys, it's MSNBC's first one that comes up.

00:41:55.000 Police Department, because IQ too high, will pull up some of the articles.

00:42:00.000 There's been many of these suits.

00:42:01.000 And they tell them, your IQ is 102, which is just above average.

00:42:08.000 I mean, there's people with 190 IQs, folks.

00:42:10.000 And so we're not going to hire you.

00:42:12.000 That's a policy that was done secretly through federal funds about 20 years ago.

00:42:16.000 It's now public.

00:42:17.000 And now they're trying to lower it to 90.

00:42:19.000 I mean, 90 is not...

00:42:22.000 Very smart.

00:42:23.000 Pretty, pretty dull.

00:42:24.000 I mean, what soon?

00:42:26.000 Will they get folks with 70 IQs?

00:42:29.000 Probably.

00:42:31.000 Probably.

00:42:32.000 Me boss now!

00:42:34.000 You don't ask!

00:42:35.000 You don't ask Sergeant Baker questions! 1.00

00:42:39.000 You lick boots! 1.00

00:42:40.000 You polish boots off Baker!

00:42:43.000 You see my cowboy hat!

00:42:46.000 I am tough!

00:42:47.000 You don't ask me questions!

00:42:49.000 You're supposed to be afraid of Sergeant Baker!

00:42:55.000 What was the other Thomas Jefferson quote?

00:42:57.000 Another terrorist, according to, I guess, the state police.

00:43:00.000 And the filthy government we've got that's delusional and believes all its own propaganda.

00:43:07.000 Liberty is a Let me give you the exact quote.

00:43:12.000 Guys, in fact, pull it up and double-check me.

00:43:14.000 Thomas Jefferson, when the government fears the people, we have liberty.

00:43:21.000 When the government fears the people, we have liberty.

00:43:24.000 When the people fear the government, we have tyranny.

00:43:30.000 Thomas Jefferson.

00:43:32.000 I'm going to continue to quote terrorists here on air.

00:43:36.000 Okay?

00:43:36.000 Remember, the feds are teaching nationwide that Anything good is terrorism.

00:43:41.000 And remember, the whole Homeland Security report, sent to us by good state police, and good federal marshal, good people, remember that?

00:43:54.000 National News said the entire Homeland Security apparatus is for conservatives, gun owners, returning veterans, libertarians, It's for you.

00:44:09.000 You're told it's for men in caves that are funded by the CIA, that if you don't give your rights up, they'll come get you.

00:44:14.000 No.

00:44:14.000 It's for you.

00:44:16.000 It's for you.

00:44:17.000 And the police want you to know that. 0.94

00:44:19.000 Now, a lot of them are good men and women and aren't going along with the programming, but the programming, the directive, is to slap us around, like they're the pimp and we're the prostitute, and they're going to let us know.

00:44:29.000 Put the quote back up for me, please.

00:44:33.000 When the people fear their government, there is Tyranny.

00:44:37.000 When the government fears the people, there is liberty.

00:44:42.000 And that doesn't say in the quote, that somebody wrote that in an article, somebody flipped the Thomas Jefferson.

00:44:49.000 Oh, so that's a Thomas Jefferson quote, so I guess I flipped it.

00:44:52.000 When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.

00:44:54.000 When the government fears the people, there is liberty.

00:44:56.000 I mean, what do you think Thomas Jefferson would have thought if he was in a time machine and he was teleported to the morning of

00:45:05.000 September 23rd, 2010, and if he could be floating around in the clouds, teleported into the future, 200 plus years, and he sees Alex Jones pull over, parked down a street, I'm in a neighborhood, and I politely walk up and put on my charm, and I was thinking, I hope they're good.

00:45:28.000 I hope they're good.

00:45:29.000 I want to find out, A, if this is an illegal checkpoint.

00:45:32.000 But B, I want to see how they treat me.

00:45:33.000 And I was thinking, man, I hope they're good, but I got a bad feeling.

00:45:37.000 And I just said, hi, hey, troopers, how's it going?

00:45:41.000 What's going on here?

00:45:42.000 How dare an Al Qaeda?

00:45:44.000 How dare a combatant?

00:45:48.000 How dare somebody that can talk? 0.73

00:45:50.000 The citizens are supposed to drive by scared and see the cops and get scared and go in the checkpoints and be asked questions and be put in naked body scanners where they illegally record your genitals and then lied about it and got caught. 0.97

00:46:01.000 It's a criminal government.

00:46:03.000 They lie even when the truth would suit them better. 0.97

00:46:07.000 And I politely was humiliated.

00:46:13.000 But I wasn't humiliated in the way he thought.

00:46:15.000 I was humiliated for this country.

00:46:16.000 I was humiliated for my children's future. 0.99

00:46:20.000 I was humiliated by petty nobodies putting thuggish positions of abusive power to boss citizens around with relish and enjoyment and treat me like trash. 0.98

00:46:31.000 That guy was savoring baring his teeth. 0.99

00:46:34.000 He was savoring his eyes just gleaming with hatred like I had, you know, slapped his grandmother or something.

00:46:40.000 I mean, this was anger and hate and disgust that I could barely even summon for my enemies.

00:46:46.000 But it summoned in me Just total disgust.

00:46:51.000 But see, everybody doesn't have a syndicated radio show.

00:46:54.000 One of the biggest on the planet.

00:46:56.000 Yeah, here's video we're showing on screen of the state police when we're out there for a rally.

00:47:00.000 Coming over and saying, you don't videotape in America.

00:47:04.000 Give me your ID.

00:47:05.000 And boy, he had some disgust, but nothing, nothing compared to what this guy did before.

00:47:13.000 Fade up the audio of this guy talking to Aaron.

00:47:15.000 From where you had it, it was good.

00:47:16.000 You don't have any of that.

00:47:17.000 Why are you asking?

00:47:18.000 Because that's my job.

00:47:20.000 I'm asking you again.

00:47:21.000 Do you have an ID?

00:47:23.000 Where's your driver's license at?

00:47:26.000 I need to see it then.

00:47:28.000 He sounds calm, but his eyes are angry.

00:47:31.000 This cop was 100 times, I mean, seething with what I would call demonic hatred.

00:47:38.000 Hey! 0.99

00:47:39.000 What's going on here?

00:47:40.000 What are you doing?

00:47:42.000 I'm just seeing what's going on.

00:47:43.000 It's none of your business.

00:47:44.000 Get in your car!

00:47:45.000 Get out of here! 0.99

00:47:47.000 Get out of here! 0.99

00:47:48.000 I mean, this is the same type of angry energy that you would expect from Davy Crockett defending the Alamo.

00:47:54.000 This is hatred you summon up when you're fighting for your life.

00:47:58.000 And I guess he was fighting for his life because his life is being a thug.

00:48:04.000 That's his way of life.

00:48:05.000 And he felt it was threatened by a polite, congenial, well-dressed person having good feelings for him.

00:48:17.000 And they think they're going to win.

00:48:18.000 They think they're going to bring this country down.

00:48:20.000 They think they've got it all figured out.

00:48:23.000 At the surface of their consciousness, at the surface of their consciousness, they're the guardians of us.

00:48:33.000 But deep down with a control freak like Yosemite Sam Sergeant Baker, He probably already got a nickname like Yosemite Sam.

00:48:42.000 Some of the other guys obviously knew who I was.

00:48:44.000 They were smiling at first and looking.

00:48:47.000 By the time I got in my car and drove back, he was up there just looking at me, calling in my plates.

00:48:53.000 Oh, he was going to get me.

00:48:54.000 Oh, yeah.

00:48:55.000 Oh, and they got that Travis County Sheriff to get behind me and let me know I'm being watched, boy.

00:49:02.000 In fact, pull up the Philadelphia, uh, Pennsylvania ad where they say, we're watching you with satellites.

00:49:09.000 We're going to get our money from you.

00:49:11.000 They want you to know that you're being watched.

00:49:13.000 They want you to know you're being controlled.

00:49:19.000 Remember they denied the satellites were being used against citizens?

00:49:21.000 Now they're harassing farmers and ranchers with it?

00:49:24.000 It's always because it's the law.

00:49:26.000 It's the rules.

00:49:28.000 But then when the Federal Reserve gets up and Congress says, where's the trillions of dollars?

00:49:32.000 They say, we're not going to tell you.

00:49:35.000 No, you're there to protect the criminal status quo.

00:49:39.000 And the status quo is getting worse.

00:49:41.000 Let's go ahead and play this clip where they're intimidating us, letting us know we're being watched.

00:49:45.000 Miss Tom, you live just off of 5th Street.

00:49:48.000 Nice car, Tom.

00:49:49.000 Nice house.

00:49:50.000 What's not so nice is you owe Pennsylvania $4,212 in back taxes.

00:49:57.000 Listen, Tom, we can make this easy.

00:50:00.000 Pay online by June 18th, and we'll skip your penalty and take half off your interest.

00:50:06.000 Because, Tom, we do know who you are.

00:50:11.000 Find us before we find you.

00:50:12.000 And they have these announcements nationwide.

00:50:14.000 More than 10% of Texas has warrants out for them with all the petty stuff.

00:50:17.000 They can't pay because we're imploding.

00:50:19.000 And they run ads.

00:50:20.000 Roundup coming up next week.

00:50:21.000 Roundup.

00:50:22.000 Roundup.

00:50:22.000 So when they have real political roundups, all the sheep have just heard the term roundup over and over again.

00:50:30.000 And of course, again, Bloomberg reported last week that 6 million veterans going back to World War II When they die, their death benefits are being stolen in agreement with the government and prudential.

00:50:43.000 So don't worry.

00:50:44.000 You've been given power to shove us around and make us lick your boots because your masters are going to implode this country and carry out a Stalinistic operation. 0.76

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00:53:58.000 I think this song says it all.

00:54:12.000 I think this song says it all.

00:54:15.000 Some folks are born, made to wait to fly.

00:54:20.000 The red, white, and blue.

00:54:23.000 The red, white, and blue.

00:54:25.000 And when the band plays, hell to the teeth Lord knows, they point the cannon at you.

00:54:36.000 Land of the free, home of the brave.

00:54:38.000 You don't politely ask police what they're doing in a neighborhood with seven squad cars, police running all over the street.

00:54:45.000 Clearly some type of checkpoint.

00:54:50.000 And by the way, I've only been on that road a few times.

00:54:52.000 It seems I see state police doing stuff there a lot of the time. 0.98

00:54:56.000 I don't know what they're doing out there and I'm not allowed to find out as a scumbag citizen. 0.99

00:55:01.000 I'm here to pay the taxes and lick boots. 0.99

00:55:03.000 I have mainstream news articles in my stack today Where they're giving people jail time and $1,000 a day fines for grass that's over three inches.

00:55:13.000 All over the country.

00:55:14.000 Where they're arresting people for gardens in their backyards.

00:55:18.000 They want to make you criminal.

00:55:19.000 That's what tyranny does. 1.00

00:55:21.000 And that state police creature... I said, hey, I'm just asking what you're doing.

00:55:28.000 And he said, hey, you're parked illegally!

00:55:31.000 I said, get out of here! 0.97

00:55:33.000 By the way, I wasn't parked illegally.

00:55:35.000 It was a neighborhood.

00:55:36.000 I was parked on the side of a neighborhood, one-lane street, off a two-lane street, in a neighborhood, with a bunch of state police crawling all over it.

00:55:47.000 And then this morning, Jaron goes in to buy a Gatorade in South Austin, and some guy, whacked out of his mind, is trying to break into his truck.

00:56:00.000 He walks out and says, Starts yelling at him for several minutes.

00:56:06.000 The guy's able to get into his truck.

00:56:10.000 Is yelling that it's his car.

00:56:13.000 Starts attacking Jaron.

00:56:15.000 Jaron has to knock him out.

00:56:18.000 And then the police show up and say, yeah, I heard you yell and saw this going on.

00:56:26.000 One of the cops were right there on Lamar and just drove past because he wasn't, there was no money to be made.

00:56:37.000 Look, police, you live in this country.

00:56:41.000 Have you studied Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia?

00:56:44.000 Do you know about countries going bad?

00:56:45.000 Do you know about what the Redcoats were doing to our ancestors when they stood up to them? 1.00

00:56:50.000 Do you understand that?

00:56:51.000 I mean, I have mainstream news articles on PrisonPlanet.com today, where all over the country, the federal government and foreign intelligence agencies are compiling lists of mainline Second Amendment groups, and the Pittsburgh Post Gazette reports that the one group is headed up by a state representative and he's on the list.

00:57:11.000 And of course, it came out in England that the Parliament is spied on by MI5.

00:57:18.000 The Parliament is the government, but the bureaucracy is the real government. 0.98

00:57:24.000 And all these crook politicians are taking the federal training to their police to treat us like trash. 0.99

00:57:29.000 So, don't say you weren't warned. 1.00

00:57:31.000 If we can't save this country and this planet, a lot of it rests on you, police, because you're where the rubber meets the road, and you are shameful when you act like that lunatic. 0.99

00:57:42.000 Now, I'll say this. 0.70

00:57:45.000 I've had the good luck of not having too many wrecks in the last 20 years, but the two wrecks I've had One time blowing off the road by a tornado.

00:57:55.000 The state police of Texas pulled up outside Fredericksburg, actually it was Stonewall, were fans of the show, were incredibly helpful, helped pick up the stuff out of the Tahoe that was all wrecked and smashed.

00:58:07.000 My paperwork were very nice and very helpful.

00:58:10.000 And I was in another wreck and the state police were very nice.

00:58:13.000 I was speeding 10 miles over the speed limit and a black DPS guy pulled me over in Temple and said, well, you were so polite Alex, I'm going to let you go. 0.93

00:58:20.000 I mean, look, I don't want to be your enemy.

00:58:25.000 I'm sure you'd be nice to go fishing with, Sergeant Baker, but you ought to really look in the mirror and ask yourself why you're out of control.

00:58:32.000 Because I bet your grandparents, I bet Papa Smurf would be ashamed of you.

00:58:37.000 I bet your granddaddy would be ashamed of you.

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00:59:55.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:58.000 Big Brother.

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01:00:07.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:09.000 You want answers?

01:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:22.000 For PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, we found some video of the state police officer that pulled me over I'm just joking.

01:00:34.000 We're showing video of the Smurfs.

01:00:37.000 The more I think about it, he looked like a cross between Yosemite Sam and Papa Smurf.

01:00:42.000 All right, I'm joking around.

01:00:43.000 I shouldn't be. 0.97

01:00:44.000 It was actually very, very sickening to see an illegal checkpoint, where it appeared to be this morning, they wouldn't tell me, and to have them get in my face and treat me like a piece of trash. 0.85

01:00:53.000 I was very polite.

01:00:54.000 Gold is up $4 a day to $1,295 an ounce.

01:00:57.000 And it's way over that what you can actually buy it for in the market.

01:01:02.000 Shortages have begun.

01:01:04.000 And the dollar is being devalued.

01:01:07.000 The Federal Reserve is involved in more quantitative easing, more printing of money.

01:01:14.000 That's what happened to Mexico, what happened to Zimbabwe, Weimar Republic, Germany.

01:01:18.000 And they are now buying more and more of U.S.

01:01:21.000 bonds.

01:01:22.000 Nobody will buy them.

01:01:22.000 Foreign governments, individuals won't buy them.

01:01:25.000 So gold's going up because the dollar's being devalued.

01:01:28.000 And I wanted to briefly, ahead of this historian joining us in the next segment on Mao Tse Tung and what we're going to face in this country, there's no doubt about it, it's the same people that ran Mao running this, I wanted to bring Ted up briefly because he ran out of the deals of gold and silver he bought a few months ago that was priced into the market $30, $40, $50, $60 depending on the deal under You know, what it should have been selling for.

01:01:51.000 He's still got some he bought a few weeks ago that is way under what anybody else can sell it to you for.

01:01:57.000 And so to tell us about what's happening in the gold market briefly is Ted Anderson.

01:02:00.000 Ted, thanks for joining us.

01:02:02.000 Yeah, hey, thanks for having me up again.

01:02:03.000 And yeah, like you said, Alex, the Fed is stepping in and that's driving the dollar down, it's driving gold up.

01:02:11.000 Right now we do have the franc currently at $279.

01:02:14.000 You do get the full year subscription to the International Forecaster when you buy that.

01:02:19.000 So, it really discounts it down to about $560 gold, considering the fact that gold's almost $1,300 an ounce today.

01:02:28.000 That is one wonderful buy.

01:02:31.000 Walking Liberty halves at $10.50, another great buy.

01:02:34.000 British Sovereign's at $3.57.

01:02:35.000 A lot of people are calling, Alex, for that CBO report, which makes me real happy.

01:02:41.000 The Federal Debt and Risk of Financial Crises document, which came out of the government, You know, you just... Ted, what you ought to give out is the Pentagon two weeks ago saying that they believe the U.S.

01:02:53.000 is going to collapse because of the debt.

01:02:55.000 Well, that's actually the banker's plan.

01:02:57.000 We have the 2002 IMF World Bank documents.

01:03:00.000 They create the crisis, they offer the solution, giving themselves more power, and these Yosemite Sam police then are more than happy to bully the public.

01:03:08.000 Well, you know, I really should take a look at that document because nothing makes me more happy than to have the government expose itself in their evil plan.

01:03:15.000 Yeah, but they're only exposing it to say, see, we better enslave you because we stole everything. 0.63

01:03:20.000 Right, exactly.

01:03:21.000 Obviously, there's an agenda there.

01:03:22.000 But, you know, if people wake up and realize that they can't keep themselves in this paper currency anymore.

01:03:28.000 I mean, the Bloomberg story says that they have to get out, that they have to buy gold and silver.

01:03:33.000 It's not like, it's not like, you know, Bloomberg, I mean, here he is a stock guy and he's telling people that they have to buy gold and silver.

01:03:39.000 This is today's story.

01:03:40.000 And, you know, It just, it just gets to the point here now where it's just getting utter ridiculous to stay into the paper currencies, the stock market, the bond market, if you're going to be in the annuities, even in the real estate because there's such a bubble there that, you know, it really doesn't make sense to have anything other than gold and silver because that has been money for over 6,000 years.

01:04:02.000 And that's why it pleases me to see that people are willing to pick up the CBO report coming from Congress and actually get the information that says, yes, indeed, there's Absolutely, but it's on record we're going into a planned depression.

01:04:13.000 People need to call.

01:04:14.000 How much are the silver half dollars right now?

01:04:16.000 Well, right now they're at $10.50.

01:04:18.000 Okay, everywhere else the lowest is $12 that I've seen.

01:04:22.000 A lot of places $16.

01:04:23.000 How long will it last at $10.50 a piece?

01:04:25.000 I'm going to hold it for today for sure.

01:04:27.000 Alright, let me give you the number.

01:04:29.000 800-686-2237.

01:04:36.000 They've got all sorts of great coins at great prices in gold.

01:04:39.000 The Franks, the Sovereigns, the Buffalos that are hard to get normally have huge premiums, not with Midas resources.

01:04:45.000 Find out the great listings.

01:04:46.000 Tell them it's the radio offer or you'll pay more.

01:04:49.000 And that price is still great.

01:04:50.000 This is smoking 800-686-2237.

01:04:51.000 1-800-686-2237.

01:04:51.000 800-686-2237. 1-800-686-2237.

01:04:57.000 Thanks a lot, Ted Anderson.

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01:07:58.000 This is our land. - These are our people.

01:08:17.000 The workers.

01:08:18.000 The strivers.

01:08:19.000 The builders.

01:08:21.000 These are our people.

01:08:27.000 Who are they?

01:08:30.000 They are the Dark Armies. 0.87

01:08:33.000 The dark, murdering armies whose only honor is atrocity.

01:08:37.000 The answer to 1984 is 1776.

01:08:46.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

01:08:51.000 There is a war on for your mind.

01:09:00.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

01:09:02.000 For the balance of this hour, award-winning historian researcher has a book out that's getting a lot of powerful reviews.

01:09:10.000 The Chinese government Help compile a book a decade ago or so admitting that Mao killed 80 plus million.

01:09:17.000 Our government says he killed 84 million.

01:09:20.000 But we have one of the leading experts on Mao's mass murder joining us.

01:09:24.000 Here's a Bloomberg headline.

01:09:26.000 Starved by Mao.

01:09:27.000 Cannibal China ate earth. 1.00

01:09:29.000 Robbed graves. 0.98

01:09:31.000 Continuing.

01:09:31.000 Mao's great leap forward killed 45 million in four years.

01:09:34.000 London Independent.

01:09:36.000 Here's another one.

01:09:37.000 London Guardian.

01:09:37.000 Mao's Great Famine by Frank Dikotter.

01:09:42.000 The horrors of China's Great Leap Forward are unveiled in this masterfully study of the hateful plan. 0.96

01:09:50.000 Huge stew pots cooking people.

01:09:53.000 That's what the Chinese books I've read translated into English talk about.

01:09:57.000 And this was praised by David Rockefeller in 1976 in the New York Times.

01:10:01.000 This is what big government does.

01:10:03.000 And according to our government, any criticism of government is terrorism.

01:10:06.000 So I guess this is the type of system we all need to live under, according to many people that worship big government and collectivism.

01:10:14.000 But I really appreciate our guests joining us today.

01:10:20.000 Frank DeCotter is an author of Mao's Great Famine, the History of China's Most Devastating Catastrophe, published by Bloomsbury and Walker Books.

01:10:29.000 He's the Chair Professor of Humanities for the University of Hong Kong and Professor of the Modern History of China on leave from the School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London.

01:10:38.000 Born in the Netherlands in 61, he's educated in Switzerland.

01:10:41.000 It goes on and on.

01:10:42.000 He's published nine books that have changed the way historians view modern China, from the classics, the Discourse on Race in Modern China, The China Before Mao, The Age of Openness.

01:10:53.000 Frank de Kotter is married and lives in Hong Kong.

01:10:55.000 He's in Rome right now.

01:10:57.000 Sir, thank you for coming on the show.

01:10:59.000 Thank you very much.

01:11:01.000 You've got the floor.

01:11:02.000 Start at the beginning. 0.68

01:11:03.000 Mao Zedong, the greatest mass murderer in history.

01:11:07.000 Now they have coffee shops and hotels and eateries named after him.

01:11:11.000 Young people wear his shirt.

01:11:12.000 I see it all over the streets.

01:11:14.000 He's supposedly like Martin Luther King to many people, so I thought we'd have you on.

01:11:19.000 Tell us about Mao Zedong.

01:11:22.000 Well, he's a man who conquered China in 1949.

01:11:24.000 And he's also a man who started the war in Korea against the Americans a few years later.

01:11:32.000 And hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people lost their lives during those two events.

01:11:39.000 But they compare They do not compare to what happened from 1958 onwards, when Mao wanted to turn every man and every woman in that country into a soldier, into one giant army that he could use in a continuous revolution to somehow...

01:11:56.000 Now, tackle both agriculture and industry at the same time.

01:12:00.000 So what he did with the Great Leap Forward in 1958 is very much collectivize everything and herd people in the countryside into giant people's communes.

01:12:12.000 People in the countryside had their homes collectivized, their land was taken away from them, their belongings were stripped away.

01:12:20.000 They had nothing left except the choice to obey the party commands.

01:12:26.000 And the party command was to work all day and all night so that the country could be To overtake England in 15 years.

01:12:35.000 That was the slogan.

01:12:36.000 To overtake England in 15 years. 0.81

01:12:38.000 And before you know it, every incentive to work was stripped away and people had no reason to work except the fear of pain and violence.

01:12:49.000 So in the countryside, party officials and farmers became locked in a mounting spiral of violence in which people were beaten, were We're covered in excrement, we're sometimes buried alive for the slightest misdemeanor.

01:13:09.000 Stealing a potato could warrant a death sentence.

01:13:14.000 Please continue, sir.

01:13:15.000 Okay, I'll continue.

01:13:18.000 One of the big myths about the Great Leap Forward is that people simply died of hunger because there was no food available.

01:13:28.000 But having looked at a whole series of party archives, you have to understand this is a one-party state that is very meticulous, like Nazi Germany, like the Soviet Union, very meticulous in compiling notes about everything it does.

01:13:44.000 So these are massive archives, and they illustrate something that is very prevalent during that period.

01:13:52.000 Namely that food is used as a weapon.

01:13:55.000 It is not simply that people starve to death.

01:13:58.000 They are starved to death, very deliberately.

01:14:01.000 There's a deliberate selection of people who are banned from the canteen.

01:14:07.000 Professor, can I interject something here?

01:14:09.000 Because I know you're very well-read, one of the leading experts on the last 70 years in China.

01:14:17.000 Have you noticed that they had a Beijing World Food Summit in the mid-1990s, and the UN said, we will use food as a weapon?

01:14:24.000 And in State Department Memorandum 200 by Henry Kissinger, he talked about using the Chinese model in the third world of using food as a weapon.

01:14:33.000 I don't know about it, but it doesn't sound very promising.

01:14:36.000 That's all I can say.

01:14:37.000 Okay, well let's continue then with the model of using food as a weapon, because I happen to have an article here, the Livable Communities Act, and the stated goal is to force people under Agenda 21 into sustainable cities, and only basically allow big agribusiness to operate.

01:14:53.000 But sorry, I was just drawing parallels to here.

01:14:56.000 Go ahead, please.

01:14:57.000 Of course, there are parallels to be made, but at that particular point in time, the fact that a one-party state was in control of all the food meant that if you did not work, if you did not go to the fields and perform the work that you were asked to do, or if you were too weak, or too vulnerable, or too old, or sometimes too young to actually earn your keep, you were banned from the canteen.

01:15:21.000 And entire groups of people were deliberately starved to death during that period from 1958 Didn't Stalin do something similar in Ukraine?

01:15:31.000 Very much a similar thing.

01:15:33.000 In other words, what Stalin did in Ukraine and in other parts of the Soviet Union was collectivize the countryside and strip every incentive to work away from the farmers.

01:15:44.000 In other words, people were locked in this cycle of violence with party officials who were there to take as much grain as they could and farmers who saw no reason to work except fear.

01:15:57.000 Now, you talked about being buried alive for small things.

01:16:01.000 How would they execute people?

01:16:02.000 And I remember back in 98 or so, there were some big books that came out in China that the government officially sanctioned, where they talked about 80 million dead.

01:16:12.000 They talked about large stewpots of human flesh.

01:16:16.000 Is that true or is that a distortion?

01:16:20.000 That may have happened in a few very isolated cases, but the most common instrument of punishment at the time was a stick.

01:16:30.000 You just beat people to get them into the fields.

01:16:33.000 When they're too famished to work, you beat them to get up.

01:16:36.000 Or you strip them in the middle of the winter so that they have to work just to stay warm.

01:16:42.000 The case of people being buried alive is reported all over China, from the north all the way to the south near Canton.

01:16:50.000 In one case, a man is forced to bury his own son alive because his son has stolen a handful of grain.

01:16:57.000 Well, this man obviously is heartbroken.

01:16:59.000 He dies of grief after three weeks.

01:17:02.000 He can't continue.

01:17:03.000 And there are countless cases of torture taking place for the slightest misdemeanor against some party command.

01:17:12.000 Well, now if you don't follow the smallest order, you get tasered.

01:17:15.000 People die every day of heart attacks.

01:17:17.000 But I guess that's America, so it's okay.

01:17:19.000 I'm sorry.

01:17:20.000 Go ahead, sir. 0.91

01:17:21.000 Well, I'd rather get tasered, I would rather get tasered, than have one of my ears chopped off, or my nose lopped off, or being buried alive, or being poured, being covered in excrement, or being tied up and thrown into a pond, or being branded with a sizzling tool like an animal. 0.95

01:17:42.000 Amazing. 0.87

01:17:43.000 Please continue, Professor.

01:17:44.000 Very common ways of punishing people at the time.

01:17:48.000 Please continue, Professor.

01:17:50.000 So what I've found, thanks very much to the party archives, which are only gradually opening up, so God knows what more is still hidden in the central party archives in Beijing, but on the basis of what is open now, it's unavoidable.

01:18:08.000 The conclusion that two to three million people were actually killed is unavoidable as part of the 45 million people who died unnecessarily during those four years.

01:18:19.000 An absolutely staggering number of people.

01:18:23.000 Professor, what's the grand total though?

01:18:25.000 Because I see numbers of 80 million, 60 million.

01:18:28.000 I mean, what's the real number from your research?

01:18:30.000 Overall during the Mao reign?

01:18:34.000 Well, the frightening thing is that so far, the only one period after 1949 that we've been able to study on the basis of the Communist Party archives is the Great Leap Forward from 1958 to 62, when previous estimates ranged from 20 to 30 million.

01:18:53.000 But on the basis of these unpublished documents, many compiled by the security police, by public security bureaus themselves, that has to go up to 45 million.

01:19:04.000 Now, the question is, what happened during Other periods, for instance, the Cultural Revolution, which started a few years later.

01:19:11.000 Or what happened immediately after 1949, after the conquest of power by the Communist Party, with the Reign of Terror.

01:19:19.000 So far, people have claimed that two to three million people were killed.

01:19:22.000 It might be much more.

01:19:23.000 We simply won't know, till we can have access to the archives.

01:19:26.000 How does the U.S.

01:19:27.000 government... It only happened for that very short period, referred to as the Great Leap Forward.

01:19:32.000 So, it's anybody's guess.

01:19:34.000 All right, Professor, stay there.

01:19:35.000 We're going to tell folks how to get your book on the other side.

01:19:37.000 We're very honored that you're spending time with us.

01:19:40.000 And I want to just continue with whatever you think is most important, because you're the real expert on this.

01:19:45.000 But I want to ask when we come back, how does the U.S.

01:19:48.000 government come up with a 64 million number then?

01:19:50.000 And from your dead reckoning, is that high?

01:19:52.000 Is that low?

01:19:54.000 And we'll continue with that on the other side.

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01:24:24.000 And it's all stated by the United Nations under Agenda 21.

01:24:28.000 They cite China as the model to control us.

01:24:30.000 I mean, you can't make up this nightmare.

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01:24:41.000 We have, again, a very prestigious researcher and professor on with us, and we're going to talk more about the book itself that goes into just horrifying detail.

01:24:53.000 Continuing with your research, we were getting into the point, Professor, this is a short segment, long segment coming up.

01:25:00.000 I was asking the question about 64 million is the number I see from the U.S.

01:25:04.000 government.

01:25:05.000 Where do they come up with that number, do you know?

01:25:09.000 Pure speculation, pure speculation.

01:25:11.000 I really don't believe that anybody's got any way of finding out how many died until we have full access to the archives.

01:25:18.000 That's not going to happen anytime soon.

01:25:21.000 But in a four year period, it's 45 mil.

01:25:24.000 Yeah, it is.

01:25:25.000 So it might be a lot more.

01:25:27.000 We simply don't know.

01:25:29.000 What was it like for you when you got access to this?

01:25:33.000 A and B, how did you get access?

01:25:36.000 Well, I didn't exactly walk in and ask them to show me all the files about how they went around killing 45 million people.

01:25:43.000 And they didn't exactly hand it over on a golden plate either.

01:25:46.000 So it was all very indirect in the sense that I was asking to look at economic history of that period.

01:25:55.000 And there was a lot of goodwill in the couple of years before the Olympics.

01:25:59.000 There was a sense of opening up and making more material available.

01:26:04.000 There was a good feel factor.

01:26:06.000 And I used that time to read as much as I could in several dozen party archives.

01:26:12.000 City archives, county archives, provincial archives.

01:26:16.000 And in some cases, I didn't find much at all.

01:26:20.000 In other cases, I simply wasn't allowed to read anything.

01:26:24.000 And once in a while I got very, very lucky.

01:26:29.000 And when I read it, I have to say, I was quite prepared for tragedy, but nothing like what I encountered in the archives.

01:26:40.000 I was still under the impression, like many others, that there simply wasn't enough food available, and that was why people died of hunger.

01:26:47.000 I had no idea that the scope, the scale of coercion was so overwhelming.

01:26:55.000 I had no idea that violence Was very much the way in which those four years were governed by the party.

01:27:07.000 Looking at what happened in in China in 75 they started the one-child policy as taxes as you know and then in 80 as law I mean it seems like China when we know they want to get rid of some of their population And I'd seen in the 70s party leaders saying we would benefit from a nuclear war So as was there an idea that wiping out the the the countryside people, you know might be a good thing or or was it mismanagement? 0.90

01:27:36.000 I mean, what was it?

01:27:38.000 Well, it's a complex series of factors, but what you say is actually quite accurate in the sense that, at the time, people from the countryside were really seen, not just socially but legally, as inferior to city residents.

01:28:00.000 In other words, a farmer ...did not legally matter as much as a city resident.

01:28:08.000 They were very much treated as a special caste.

01:28:12.000 And during the Great Leap Forward, a sort of war was built around the city.

01:28:19.000 Not a real war, but the cities were fenced off from the countryside.

01:28:23.000 Well, they do that now!

01:28:24.000 They lock the rural workers at night in the major cities, AP reports, in basically giant prisons.

01:28:32.000 Well, to this day, in fact, any migrant from the countryside can be arrested and locked up, and that law dates from the Great Leap Forward, 1958.

01:28:40.000 The whole divide of the country, I mean, the real line that runs through this society, the real divide, is countryside people and city people.

01:28:50.000 And there's no doubt that the vast majority of victims during the Great Leap Forward, the tens of millions of people who died, were countryside people, and there's no doubt either That they were pretty much at the very bottom of the social hierarchy during that period.

01:29:08.000 Amazing, Professor, but again...

01:29:11.000 The evidence shows, as you're saying, that the culture was already there to discriminate against the rural population.

01:29:19.000 But why do we then see the communists do the same thing in Russia?

01:29:25.000 And now we see the UN with this attitude, claiming they want to help the rural communities, but actually doing the opposite.

01:29:31.000 Long segment coming up.

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01:33:20.000 Okay, we're back live, and we're talking to Professor DeCotter about Mao Zedong, undoubtedly the greatest mass murderer in human history.

01:33:29.000 But I wanted to read a quote here from the New York Times.

01:33:34.000 We actually went and got this from the microfilm.

01:33:36.000 It's in my film, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.

01:33:39.000 David Rockefeller wrote for the New York Times, August 10th, 1973, after returning from a successful business trip to China, whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded.

01:33:48.000 In fostering a high morale and community of purpose, general social and economic progress is no less impressive.

01:33:54.000 The enormous social advances of China have benefited greatly from the singleness of ideology and purpose.

01:34:00.000 The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in history.

01:34:06.000 And he goes on in the editorial to praise Mao Zedong.

01:34:09.000 We just got some footage from one of our associates that's done graphics work for us.

01:34:14.000 Of being in major Chinese cities with the youth brigades marching with their red flags just this year and whenever they want they beat people up. 1.00

01:34:22.000 I mean, that's all part of the fun.

01:34:25.000 And I've got CNN here.

01:34:27.000 CNN tells masses that communism is good for women despite China's nightmare legacy. 0.66

01:34:32.000 What is it like for you, Professor, being one of the Most respected researchers on Mao and that communist period.

01:34:38.000 I mean, surely you've noticed all the glorification of Mao in Europe, Canada, the United States.

01:34:43.000 They're putting statues up for him.

01:34:46.000 They're basically saying he's a civil rights icon.

01:34:50.000 Is that disturbing for you?

01:34:52.000 Yeah, it's quite sickening.

01:34:54.000 Given that what happened only during the Great Leap Forward would be enough to qualify as one of the three greatest man-made disasters of the 20th century.

01:35:06.000 It has to be the Gulag, the Holocaust and the Great Leap Forward that count as the three greatest disasters that were pretty much man-made. 0.97

01:35:14.000 I find it, obviously, quite sickening Here's a regime that not only destroyed human beings into tens of millions, but also everything else that was in its way.

01:35:27.000 That includes untold damage to nature during the Great Heap Forward, with up to half of the forest coverage lost.

01:35:36.000 Housing destroyed, up to 40% in some provinces that are the size of a European country like France.

01:35:46.000 40% of the housing destroyed in the space of four years.

01:35:50.000 Transportation system that would grind to a halt with the Great Leap Forward.

01:35:55.000 I mean, something, it's collectivization created such damage at every level that the China that existed before 1949, it's just gone forever.

01:36:07.000 Another kind of damage that was done when people are reduced to doing everything in order to survive, including eating mud or stealing from their own family members, and that is the unraveling of the social fabric and of moral values altogether.

01:36:26.000 You talk about the raping of the land.

01:36:28.000 The website's frankdacotter.com.

01:36:31.000 We have links to it up on infowars.com and prisonplunder.com.

01:36:34.000 I mean, why were they destroying so many homes?

01:36:38.000 I read something about, for quote, fertilizer.

01:36:40.000 Explain that to me.

01:36:42.000 Well, it sounds extraordinary, but it comes back in every party document that you can find from that period.

01:36:51.000 Initially, mud huts were destroyed, or pig sheds, in which animals would have left some organic matter that might be used as fertilizer on the fields.

01:37:04.000 But bit by bit, entire houses are being destroyed.

01:37:07.000 And houses were destroyed for other reasons, not just for fertilizer, but to straighten the roads, or to take bricks in order to build up a people's commune or a canteen, or to punish the people who lived inside because they didn't work hard enough or didn't contribute enough grain to the state.

01:37:25.000 Extraordinary level of destruction.

01:37:27.000 And sir, I've also read about in this communist system with the police, they became fat and all these little petty thugs and psychopaths and control freaks, they all got recruited because a loving, good, decent person couldn't do things like this, so it gravitated towards absolute despotism.

01:37:45.000 Can you talk about that psychology?

01:37:49.000 Indeed.

01:37:49.000 It isn't just people outside the party who were victims of this, but inside the party.

01:37:55.000 Party members who didn't want to go along with these policies, who were rejected in some way or another.

01:38:00.000 They too were expelled, purged from the party.

01:38:04.000 In the millions, in the millions.

01:38:06.000 And other, much harder, unscrupulous men were recruited to replace them.

01:38:12.000 And they were willing to go along with anything Mao Zedong said.

01:38:16.000 They were willing to very much trim their sails to benefit from these radical winds that were blowing from Peking.

01:38:24.000 So, what you get is a party of thugs who are very much willing to do anything to curry favour with the current, with the leadership at the time.

01:38:34.000 History repeats itself over and over again, and people don't recognize it, so they have to live through it.

01:38:41.000 And I see similar trends worldwide today with the recruiting of thugs, but we're in a lot of trouble. 0.64

01:38:47.000 Professor, I want to get back into your book and tell folks how they get it and flesh out some of the other incredible, groundbreaking research that you've gotten from the Communist Party archives all over China, including local uh... archives uh... but uh... how much research have you done on the man malatang because i read about him never taking a bath having sex with five ten women a day just uh... just just just being a singularly disgusting creature 0.78

01:39:16.000 That is very true and there is a very good biography by Yong Chang on Mao Zedong as a person.

01:39:23.000 And what comes across when you start having access to the minutes of secret leadership meetings is an image of a man who is extremely stubborn on the one hand, not willing to listen to anybody else, but also extraordinarily vain.

01:39:42.000 In the sense that nobody, including number two and number three down the line, down the hierarchy of power, are really willing to upset this man.

01:39:53.000 And that's linked to a third characteristic that comes across very clearly, and that's paranoia.

01:39:58.000 Here's a man who is the head of a one-party state and is constantly fearing that there might be somebody stabbing him in the back, somebody undermining him.

01:40:08.000 So he is very much at the head of a one-party state in which any Any failure to curry favor or toe the party line results in outright dismissal or much further down the line to violence of extraordinary proportions.

01:40:28.000 Sounds like a bigger scale North Korea. 0.83

01:40:31.000 It's very much a bigger scale North Korea. 0.53

01:40:35.000 In fact, I made a comparison about a week ago when I spoke to The Independent in England with Pol Pot and Pol Pot and the genocide in Cambodia.

01:40:46.000 I described it as 20 times what happened in Cambodia. 0.70

01:40:50.000 20 times what the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot did. 0.87

01:40:55.000 Unbelievable.

01:40:56.000 I want to get back into that period, those four years, 45 million killed in one way or the other.

01:41:01.000 But looking at the fact that near the end, Mal's wife became a scapegoat. 0.76

01:41:08.000 She was just as sickening as he was.

01:41:10.000 I want to speak about her.

01:41:14.000 What China has done to get away from that, but I know they still have the forced labor farming camps. 0.64

01:41:19.000 I know a lot of that is still there.

01:41:20.000 It's just hidden in that archipelago throughout the country.

01:41:25.000 But specifically, going through the overall span of his reign of terror, his great leap into hell, how things ended for Mao Zedong and how he's seen in China today.

01:41:39.000 Well, Mao Zedong did rather well, unlike Adolf Hitler, but not unlike Joseph Stalin. 0.68

01:41:45.000 He died very peacefully in his sleep, after having gotten rid of every single one of his enemies, including number two at the time, head of state, Yao Shaoqi, and very much allowing number three, Zhou Enlai, to die of cancer.

01:42:01.000 By withholding medical treatment.

01:42:03.000 So he was the one who lived a very long life and died in his sleep.

01:42:08.000 How is he considered?

01:42:09.000 Well, I'm sometimes told by people in China that he is still held in great esteem.

01:42:16.000 But the key point really is that even at the time, while he was Pretty much taking away the grain from ordinary farmers and starving them to death.

01:42:26.000 Those very farmers in the countryside who were being starved, with their children taken away to the army, who were sometimes buried alive during that period, they themselves believed that Mao Zedong was a great man.

01:42:41.000 And it's a very simple way of explaining that.

01:42:44.000 People need hope.

01:42:45.000 They believe that the man at the very top is benevolent.

01:42:49.000 They love their servitude, and once they buy into the con, they can never say they were wrong.

01:42:55.000 Indeed!

01:42:56.000 It goes back to a very old traditional way of looking at things under the Chinese Empire.

01:43:02.000 The emperor is benevolent, but his mandarins are crooked. 0.78

01:43:06.000 The ones who carry out his orders are wicked.

01:43:12.000 Now, going back to his number two, having his health care withheld, I had read that.

01:43:16.000 I mean, that shows that in these tyrannical systems, whatever permutation they take, that it is the people that work for the system, statistically from my, you know, grazing over wide spectrums of history, that generally the most dangerous position, just like with Hitler, wiping out tens of thousands of his brown shirts that took him to power on the Night of the Long Knives, that over and over again, it is the servants of the Dark Lord that are in the most danger. 0.73

01:43:43.000 That is true to a great extent.

01:43:46.000 For instance, the Cultural Revolution is extremely complex, but essentially boils down to Communist Party members Purging or killing off or torturing other Communist Party members.

01:44:01.000 It's a great purge within the party.

01:44:04.000 And that caused something like two, three million deaths.

01:44:08.000 But of course, ultimately, ordinary people, the ones who died in the tens of millions are exposed, have far less protection against violence that comes from above and people inside the party but you are right nobody would relish to be number two or number three in that kind of system and Lin Biao Lin Biao is a very smart man who tried to stay away from it but he too got pulled into it by Mao Zedong himself and he tried to flee and of course died in tragic circumstances.

01:44:36.000 Well professor we see this this cycle over and over again throughout history that when a aggressive A group comes in, takes over, that almost always things get worse, not better.

01:44:50.000 That's why 1776 was so special.

01:44:52.000 They really did deliver on almost all the promises, and it was, you know, the greatest expression of a true leap forward for freedom.

01:45:04.000 But if you look at the Communists, if you look at the Nazis, if you look at the decline of Rome, and I'd like you to speak as a historian on this if you can, just overall, First they take over, kill off their first enemy, whoever was in power before. 0.72

01:45:18.000 Then they wipe out the thugs that brought them to power.

01:45:23.000 And there's always an escalation in the killing, comparatively. 0.98

01:45:27.000 And then you've got all these killers and psychopaths and sadists and control freaks.

01:45:32.000 They've still got the bloodlust, the bloodthirsty enjoyment, and the paranoia that goes with it.

01:45:38.000 And so then it just accelerates, accelerates, accelerates, accelerates.

01:45:42.000 Yes, quite.

01:45:43.000 I mean, these one-party states, whether it's under Stalin, under Hitler, under Mao, have very similar structures with similar effects.

01:45:51.000 And I think Friedrich Hayek, the wonderful writer who wrote this book called The Road to Serfdom... Yes, Road to Serfdom.

01:46:00.000 Hayek saw it very clearly.

01:46:02.000 Once you start stripping away every kind of freedom, the freedom of association, freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom to trade, once you replace it by a one-party dictate, there can only be one road, and that's the road to serve them, as he said rather clearly.

01:46:20.000 I think the Great Leap Forward illustrates that better than anything else in 20th century history.

01:46:27.000 Well, Professor, I mean, you're obviously a very intelligent person.

01:46:30.000 You've studied history.

01:46:32.000 Are you not concerned about global parallels now with this global corporate elite who use collectivism at the national level to consolidate power to then Combine and move the nation's wealth into their corporate arms.

01:46:48.000 I mean, globalization, when you really study what it's for, as the head of political science at Georgetown wrote, Bill Clinton's mentor, that this mega-corporate elite, they'll fund fascists, communists, thugs.

01:47:00.000 Our own CIA admits over and over again they'll choose a dictator over an elected government.

01:47:06.000 And more and more we see the classical Western liberties Whether it's England or the United States being dismantled, do you ever see parallels?

01:47:18.000 What worries me more than anything else is the fact that we still have a one-party state in power in the People's Republic of China.

01:47:27.000 It's very much the same party that committed all these atrocities some 50 years ago. 0.54

01:47:31.000 Now, right now, the number of people who actually see China and the authoritarian state it represents as an example to be followed, I find that extremely worrying.

01:47:44.000 And what I find even more worrying is what might happen if things go bad economically.

01:47:50.000 What if that bubble bursts?

01:47:52.000 What would happen with a People's Republic and a one-party state when things go downhill economically?

01:47:59.000 That, to me, seems to be something we should be paying attention to.

01:48:04.000 I agree with you, Professor.

01:48:06.000 We'll put your website up on screen, the title of the book, Mal's Great Famine, and Frank DeCotter is our guest.

01:48:16.000 We've got a little bit of time left in this segment, the next.

01:48:19.000 I've been asking a lot of the questions, what are some of the other big central points and discoveries that you make in the book?

01:48:24.000 I haven't read it yet, I've just seen the reviews, but we do have a copy ordered.

01:48:30.000 I think the sheer extent of... the amount of documentation that comes out of the party archives I find quite extraordinary.

01:48:43.000 And I just wonder what happened during other periods under Communist rule up to 1949.

01:48:49.000 When you start looking at 45 million people in four or five years time, you just wonder what happened afterwards or in the decade prior to that.

01:48:58.000 Most of all, I think that it is not just about trying to see Mao as the greatest mass murderer in human history, which of course he is, but also trying to treat the victims of it and try to, at least in

01:49:14.000 Respect to the memory of those many tens of millions who died and try to read about this event and treat it with the same degree of respect and knowledge as we treat victims of the Holocaust and victims of the Soviet gulag.

01:49:31.000 What I'm trying to say, I think, is that people simply don't have a choice or a voice in the People's Republic.

01:49:38.000 There is no monument to the dead of the Great Leap Forward.

01:49:41.000 There's no museum.

01:49:43.000 There's no remembrance.

01:49:44.000 We have not publicly recognized, even in Western media, just how horrid this period was.

01:49:50.000 And because it hasn't been called out, There's restaurants all over the U.S., college kids, I go back to that.

01:49:57.000 And now, I remember, I've been on air 15 years.

01:50:00.000 15 years ago, our media would criticize China and its human rights abuses and its organs selling and the rest of it. 0.86

01:50:06.000 Now, sir, I hardly ever hear that.

01:50:08.000 That's why it was so refreshing to see you coming out and people looking at your research and a lot of media admitting, I mean, this seems like a big step forward towards really recognizing this evil.

01:50:21.000 Indeed.

01:50:22.000 That's the tragedy of China becoming more powerful in world politics, is that there are fewer and fewer people actually prepared to look at what happened in the past, or for that matter, what is happening today.

01:50:37.000 And that same system's in place now.

01:50:38.000 We've got five minutes on the other side, but...

01:50:41.000 Recap and expand on the point you were just making, Professor, and then let's look forward.

01:50:45.000 I mean, let's look at who they've got there.

01:50:47.000 It's the children and grandchildren of the same totally wicked, inbred party elite, and now they own the majority of U.S.

01:50:54.000 debt and have over 6,000 front companies here in the U.S.

01:50:57.000 Well, they're right back with the Professor.

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01:54:10.000 Well, we'll definitely have him back up with us again because we haven't even scratched the surface.

01:54:15.000 I hope you'll get the book, Mal's Great Famine, because it mirrors the separate research I've done, obviously not as in-depth or directly there at the source.

01:54:24.000 This is confirmed, you know, point of release from within their own annals.

01:54:29.000 And as he said, it's only the surface and it's so horrific.

01:54:34.000 We have our own government lighting up the Empire States Building in the communist Chinese colors. 0.63

01:54:39.000 That's like lighting it up as a swastika.

01:54:41.000 If we don't recognize that the same system is still there.

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01:54:56.000 This documents our government's own admissions, major think tanks, the UN, saying they like what Mao did.

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01:55:05.000 You see the young kids, I see them in UT, wearing Mao and Stalin shirts.

01:55:10.000 This is serious.

01:55:11.000 This is serious, and we've got to stand up and recognize evil.

01:55:14.000 So I hope folks get the film at Infowars.com because, uh, sir, finishing up with that point about how we're, that, The same groups that did this are still in control today.

01:55:29.000 China owns most of the West's debt.

01:55:32.000 And where is China going now?

01:55:38.000 Well, I'm not an expert on China today.

01:55:42.000 That's one of the troubling things, is that the so-called China experts seem always to be very willing to talk about every aspect of that country, whether it happened a thousand years ago or what is going to happen in ten years' time.

01:55:55.000 So I'm very prudent with that.

01:55:57.000 But looking at it, I think the real worry is whether there's another great leap forward taking place.

01:56:03.000 Obviously not tens of millions dying of hunger, but again there's great faith by the Chinese government that it has somehow found a way to catapult its country past everybody else through some magic economic plan that has nothing in common with the rest of the world.

01:56:21.000 This idea that they can somehow do their own thing in a very different way without having to pay respect Respect to human beings, respect to freedom, the freedom of movement, freedom of association, freedom of religion, freedom of speech.

01:56:37.000 That seems to me to be rather worrying.

01:56:41.000 And in any event, it seems to me that if we really want to understand China now, you cannot but read up on its history of the past 50 years.

01:56:50.000 These are, as you said, very much the same people in power, the same families in power.

01:56:56.000 The same people in power, the same families, becoming fabulously wealthy.

01:57:01.000 I mean, generals making hundreds of millions of dollars, and they're killing the Falun Gong, they're killing peaceful groups, they're still oppressing Tibet, and our media more and more defends it. 0.85

01:57:14.000 Indeed.

01:57:14.000 The other query for China experts out there, of course, not for me as a historian, but would be to find out whether or not these methods are being exported to other countries.

01:57:27.000 Oh, they certainly are being exported to other countries.

01:57:30.000 I mean, that's the issue that I see here.

01:57:33.000 And then China's got so much influence over our internal politics because they own our debt that, I mean, that's the main reason that the State Department two years ago said they're not selling organs when China admits they're selling organs.

01:57:44.000 So now our government's lying for them.

01:57:47.000 Well, there you go.

01:57:51.000 So, again, is it another great leap forward?

01:57:56.000 I'd be very prudent.

01:58:00.000 It's incredible.

01:58:01.000 Well, Professor DeCotter, frankdecotter.com is the website.

01:58:05.000 I know you're in Rome right now.

01:58:07.000 I'd like to, while we have you, call you and try to pick a time to interview you again as soon as possible because I'd like to open the phones up to take calls.

01:58:18.000 So we're going to put you on hold, sir, and find a time to We'll get you back on in the future, perhaps in studio when you're here in the United States.

01:58:27.000 I hope folks get your book, and as you said, learn to recognize evil so it doesn't happen again.

01:58:32.000 God bless you, sir.

01:58:34.000 Thank you.

01:58:35.000 There goes Professor Frank the Cotter.

01:58:37.000 We'll be right back.

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02:02:03.000 created the U.N., so then why do Americans want out of the U.N.?

02:02:06.000 Or, well, it's a global corporate construct to then come back in and take over.

02:02:12.000 That's why our trade and risk government funds it, because it's controlled by the very same robber barons.

02:02:18.000 For the rest of this hour, we're going to do a quick update later on what's happening with the economy, but we are joined by an amazing lady who we've had on the broadcast before, and she lives right outside Austin, Judith McGarry, a lawyer and family farm operator, farmandranchfreedom.org. 0.53

02:02:37.000 Earlier this week, they just had a conference in Austin.

02:02:39.000 They've got a House and Senate bill, which could be interpreted, and I've read the language, to say you can't make strawberry jam and give it to your neighbor or sell it.

02:02:47.000 And you see them SWAT teaming Amish and all of this happening.

02:02:50.000 And it just shows you the mindset.

02:02:52.000 We just spent an hour about Mao Zedong using food as a weapon.

02:02:55.000 Now the UN says they'll use food as a weapon.

02:02:57.000 That's a quote.

02:02:58.000 We have our own government saying that.

02:03:00.000 They don't want you self-sufficient.

02:03:02.000 They want you under their control as prisoners.

02:03:05.000 And under the carbon taxes, they say Germany's already passed a law by 2020, ten years from now, no single-family homes are allowed.

02:03:13.000 They're talking about bulldozing them and building smart homes.

02:03:15.000 This is total tyranny.

02:03:17.000 First, they tell you what type of toilet you can have.

02:03:20.000 Then they tell you what type of light bulbs, little simple things, what type of air conditioning freon.

02:03:25.000 Then it's, oh, we're going to have a home inspection.

02:03:27.000 Oh, you've got to have a license to have a garden.

02:03:32.000 Oh, we've got to inspect your garden and make sure you're not growing marijuana.

02:03:36.000 Tulsa, Oklahoma has been calling for that.

02:03:38.000 We're going to go to break, come back with her, and really flesh this out.

02:03:41.000 But farmandranchfreedom.org is the website, and it's time for farmers and ranchers to not just go to the football game on Friday nights, to not just go drink beer, to not just go complain at county commissioners, to really get aggressive and realize you're under attack.

02:03:58.000 Mega agribusiness globally, states, They're passing regulations worldwide to take over your farm and ranch.

02:04:06.000 To put regulations on you that are not enforced against Tyson Chicken and ConAgra and others.

02:04:14.000 Monsanto.

02:04:15.000 And to let Monsanto come on your land and spray your crops to see if any of their genes are in the crops, because if the plants don't die they know.

02:04:23.000 Uh, that, uh, you know, it's got some of their genetics.

02:04:26.000 All of this, this is a scientific takeover.

02:04:30.000 The mega-corporations want world government, they want it now.

02:04:33.000 So, Judith McGeary, we'll have the floor when we come back to walk through all of this, but you just heard me have...

02:04:40.000 One of the top head of his department at a prestigious university on about communism, about collectivism, about using food as a weapon, and he agreed it's now happening here.

02:04:51.000 Look, it's really happening.

02:04:53.000 Okay?

02:04:53.000 That's not hyperbole.

02:04:54.000 They want to do this here.

02:04:56.000 Our government is totally criminal.

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02:10:42.000 Okay, let's now go to Judith McGeary of Farm and Ranch Freedom to break down what we're dealing with. 0.98

02:10:53.000 Judith, tell us how you first got into this, the overall view of what's behind this agenda, and as a lawyer being able to research the bills, what we're currently facing with the legislation.

02:11:04.000 You don't ask a lot at one time.

02:11:07.000 I got into it at the time I was a practicing attorney, and my husband and I have our own small farm, and I heard about the animal identification system, and they were pushing it here in Texas.

02:11:18.000 So, the more I researched it, the uglier it looked, and I ended up leaving my legal practice and creating the Farm and Ranch Freedom Alliance, along with a group of other farmers and ranchers who were very worried about what NAIS could do.

02:11:31.000 And so at first our focus was very closely focused just on NAIS, but the more you get into this, the more you realize how many threats there are.

02:11:39.000 And this year, we put a lot of energy and a lot of focus onto the food safety bills in Congress.

02:11:45.000 Actually for about the last year and a half now we've been doing that.

02:11:49.000 Because what's happening is that the federal government is looking at the food system.

02:11:57.000 And there are a lot of really legitimate concerns about food safety in this country.

02:12:01.000 I don't feel secure about the quality of the food in the grocery stores.

02:12:04.000 And unfortunately that's what 95% of people are eating.

02:12:08.000 But the problem is they're using that as an excuse to create a massive federal regulatory scheme That covers all the food in this country.

02:12:18.000 You know, right down to, as you were saying, you know, someone who makes a few jars of jam and, you know, sells them at a local farmer's market or, you know, at the local, you know, park or fair stand or, you know, flea market, you know, for a couple of weeks a year, would be faced with really complicated, convoluted federal regulation.

02:12:39.000 And frankly, most of them won't be able to deal with it.

02:12:42.000 That's the short version.

02:12:43.000 That's the nutshell.

02:12:45.000 Well, let's go back to the beginning.

02:12:47.000 The Animal ID, Premises ID, how they tried to force it through.

02:12:51.000 Now they claim they've backed off, but they're just coming back with it again.

02:12:56.000 Let's break down the full spectrum takeover.

02:12:58.000 Big agribusiness, on record, financing this.

02:13:02.000 They exempt themselves from most of the rules.

02:13:05.000 It's clearly designed to shut down family farms and ranches. 0.94

02:13:08.000 They're now trying to say hobby farms aren't Uh, eligible for small tax exemptions.

02:13:15.000 They're doing everything they can to shut down the family farm.

02:13:17.000 There is a undeclared war going on against our family farms and ranches.

02:13:23.000 There's been an undeclared war against our family farms and ranches for a long time.

02:13:28.000 You know, the official federal government policy for decades has been get big or get out.

02:13:33.000 And that has been the attitude.

02:13:36.000 And what we've seen, whether it's Animal ID, whether it's the tax exemptions you're talking about, whether it's the food safety bill, Is that the federal agencies, the USDA and the FDA, you know, have a revolving door going between them and Big Ag.

02:13:50.000 So Michael Taylor, who's now the head of food safety at FDA, you know, worked for Monsanto, went to work for FDA, went back to work for a lobbying firm that worked for Monsanto, is now back at FDA.

02:14:02.000 And you can find story after story after story like that.

02:14:06.000 And this is who they talk to.

02:14:07.000 It's the only people, for the most part, that they talk to.

02:14:10.000 And so they write regulations and they write programs that are based on the interests of how the big agribusiness companies work.

02:14:18.000 The Cargills, the Tysons, Monsanto, ADM, Grocery Manufacturers of America, you know, all the big groceries in the country have had a major hand in this bill.

02:14:31.000 You know, this is backwards.

02:14:32.000 You know, if you want good quality food in this country, we need to get away from the big agribusiness.

02:14:38.000 We need to renew our small farms, have local food, people being able to buy from people they trust, and focus on decentralized local food systems.

02:14:49.000 And that is not in, you know, FDA's agenda.

02:14:52.000 But the good news is, but you're on the front lines so correct me if I'm wrong, there is a renaissance of food co-ops, of farmers markets, of even lawyers and doctors and well-to-do educated people fleeing to the country, becoming truly sustainable, not the UN eugenics counterfeit becoming truly sustainable, not the UN eugenics counterfeit of that, And people have been voting with their pocketbook.

02:15:22.000 Ten years ago you couldn't find organic food on store shelves.

02:15:25.000 Now it's everywhere.

02:15:27.000 You couldn't find non-GMO hormone milk.

02:15:29.000 Now you can't find the milk with the hormones. 0.98

02:15:32.000 Of course, they still sell it.

02:15:34.000 It's added to the other products and cheese and things.

02:15:37.000 And from my research, a lot of this attempt to really take over or accelerate the takeover of family farms and ranches is in response to the movement they're seeing by people to basically come out of Babylon.

02:15:52.000 I think that's a very good assessment of the situation.

02:15:55.000 There is.

02:15:56.000 It's wonderful to watch the local food movement grow.

02:15:59.000 And it's not just the farmers.

02:16:01.000 It's the farmers and the consumers working together.

02:16:04.000 And that, you know, it's critical, and we are natural partners.

02:16:08.000 The farmers are producing good food for the consumers, and the consumers are providing a fair living wage for farmers.

02:16:13.000 And it's fantastic.

02:16:15.000 And if this continues...

02:16:18.000 The children get to drive out once a week to the farms they like.

02:16:20.000 They get to see the cows, the goats, the chickens.

02:16:23.000 Then they get the idea to move to the country, put in a few plum trees, start making their own jam.

02:16:28.000 We start becoming humans again who are meant to be out in the sunshine and the dirt.

02:16:33.000 And we go from being 90% urban to maybe 20-30% rural.

02:16:35.000 That panics the social engineers.

02:16:41.000 And it goes counter to what they've been saying for decades, which is the stated goal has been to have fewer and fewer farmers.

02:16:49.000 I mean, it's not a secret.

02:16:51.000 They think that farming is, you know, a low-value profession.

02:16:56.000 We want as few people in it as possible.

02:16:59.000 Get people off the land.

02:17:00.000 They bring in the illegals with big agribusiness to undercut the real farms. 1.00

02:17:07.000 No, it's a mechanized war.

02:17:08.000 It's a mechanized, stated UN plan.

02:17:11.000 Sorry, go ahead.

02:17:12.000 Well, no, not at all.

02:17:13.000 But, um, the thing is, what we're describing, you know, this wonderful renaissance, as you were saying, you know, ten years ago, it was very hard to get local foods or organic foods in many places.

02:17:23.000 And ten years ago, big agribusiness didn't worry about us.

02:17:27.000 We were too small to worry about.

02:17:29.000 It wasn't a big deal.

02:17:30.000 Now, the local food movement is growing by so many leaps and bounds, and there's so much energy behind it, and so much publicity.

02:17:38.000 You know, books like Omnivore's Dilemma, and movies like Food, Inc.

02:17:41.000 And I'm going to say this right now, and then have you continue.

02:17:44.000 If you want to defeat the New World Order, folks, start a garden. 0.92

02:17:48.000 It is the act of becoming a human again.

02:17:50.000 It is the act of the agrarian culture that will bring us back to humanity. 1.00

02:17:55.000 It's one of the single things we can do To cut off their power and their control.

02:18:00.000 And so, this is the revolution.

02:18:02.000 Sorry, go ahead.

02:18:04.000 So I think that's a wonderful statement.

02:18:06.000 Reconnecting with our food, growing your own garden, you know, getting to know the people who produce your food, going out to the farm.

02:18:13.000 Reconnecting with the food is central.

02:18:15.000 And what we have to do is we have to protect that.

02:18:17.000 Because what's happening is there's a huge amount of momentum behind this movement.

02:18:22.000 And if it's allowed to continue, it will continue to grow by leaps and bounds and become the dominant movement.

02:18:29.000 Unfortunately, if things like Senate Bill 510, the current food safety bill, And you notice they've already built up these paramilitary armies of Enviro, police and others.

02:18:42.000 Every day I hear about them going after small farms, small gardens, Amish, I mean SWAT teams, undercover at the farmers markets here in Austin. 1.00

02:18:52.000 There's undercover cops everywhere.

02:18:54.000 I mean, they're coming.

02:18:56.000 And that's really one of the core problems we're facing right now.

02:18:59.000 Specifically, you know, they've got Senate Bill 510 in the Senate.

02:19:02.000 It's been installed there for months.

02:19:04.000 But now there's all this momentum to pass it because of the egg recall.

02:19:08.000 You know, half a billion eggs recalled.

02:19:11.000 FDA needs more power.

02:19:12.000 And that was a mega-producer that did that!

02:19:14.000 Again, but it won't be pointed at them, though.

02:19:17.000 Exactly, and that's the thing.

02:19:18.000 I mean, what should be coming out from this egg scare, what people should realize, is that FDA isn't using the power it has now to regulate the big agribusiness.

02:19:29.000 They don't go after the mega factory farms.

02:19:32.000 They go after small co-ops and local producers and raw milk and all of these things FDA doesn't like.

02:19:38.000 And simply giving the same agency more power is not going to improve the food supply.

02:19:44.000 When it's a revolving door with big agribusiness that states it wants to shut you down, stay there.

02:19:49.000 Folks, you want to be part of the revolution for free humanity.

02:19:53.000 This is one of the central areas as important as the Second Amendment and free speech.

02:19:59.000 We'll be right back.

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02:24:25.000 Now, Judith, looking at these House and Senate bills, let's go over what's in them.

02:24:31.000 I mean, because it really does say you can't can strawberries and sell them without government, you know, fees and regulations and inspectors who just can't wait to get in your house.

02:24:39.000 And they're trying to shut down the farmers markets, as you said.

02:24:43.000 They are going after garage sales.

02:24:45.000 I mean, they don't want us doing anything that didn't run through a scanner.

02:24:50.000 So they know exactly what you're buying, what you're doing.

02:24:52.000 Let's go over this and how we defeat this legislation.

02:24:54.000 But then there's the second part of the story.

02:24:56.000 They're already implementing all this before they even have the law in place.

02:25:00.000 Go ahead.

02:25:02.000 What I'd like to focus on is Senate Bill 510, because that's the bill that's active right now, and we just got word that there's a good chance it'll be voted on next week.

02:25:11.000 So, you know, that is where the action's happening right now.

02:25:15.000 And there's a lot in this bill.

02:25:16.000 It's 225 pages long.

02:25:19.000 So I'm going to focus on just a few core provisions out of it.

02:25:22.000 There's one section that's what they call Produce Safety Standards.

02:25:27.000 And this applies to anyone who is growing, you know, fruits and vegetables for sale.

02:25:32.000 Includes, you know, local CSAs, people selling to farmers markets, farm to school programs.

02:25:36.000 Yeah, you're not going to sell peaches on the side of the road, they're going to SWAT team you.

02:25:39.000 And I mean, they do.

02:25:41.000 They have an undercover cop come up, buy a peach, and then they get to arrest you.

02:25:44.000 So the first stage, before you get to the enforcement stage though, the first stage is they're going to be telling you, they're going to be adopting regulations on how to grow and harvest these crops.

02:25:54.000 The FDA is going to be empowered to say, here's what kind of water you can use, what standards you need to meet for your compost, when you could use animal manure, when you can't use animal manure, whether you need toilets in an area, what your workers need to wear, what you need to wear, what you need to wash in.

02:26:11.000 You know, really long, extensive regulations.

02:26:15.000 And, you know, this is something, by the way, FDA is already working on.

02:26:18.000 As you said, even without this bill, FDA is looking at trying to adopt these kinds of regulations.

02:26:23.000 And you would have to, right now, there are no exemptions.

02:26:27.000 Right now, the way the bill is written, if you grow a large backyard garden and you take your excess produce to the local farmer's market, because what else are you going to do with all that squash?

02:26:38.000 You'd have to comply with federal regulation on how you grew that squash. 0.93

02:26:41.000 So it's a federal takeover of just everything?

02:26:45.000 It's incredibly expensive.

02:26:47.000 And we've never seen anything like it.

02:26:49.000 I mean, this is very different even from the power that we already have.

02:26:52.000 Well, our health care is government-run now.

02:26:54.000 I mean, this is the new America.

02:26:56.000 So that's one big section.

02:26:57.000 The next section that I try to focus on is what you're talking about in terms of jam-making.

02:27:02.000 It applies to anyone who does any kind of food processing.

02:27:06.000 And that means jam-making, cheese-making, bread-making.

02:27:09.000 You know, someone who makes pies.

02:27:11.000 Someone who makes sun-dried tomatoes.

02:27:13.000 Pretty much if you take raw ingredients and you change them in any form or fashion.

02:27:17.000 And they're already using local zoning under Agenda 21 written by the UN to arrest people for uncut grass for gardens.

02:27:24.000 I mean, it's already happening.

02:27:26.000 And what happens now, or what would happen if Bill 510 passes, is that all these folks who are doing small-scale food production would again come under federal regulation.

02:27:39.000 And for food processing, it's something called a HACCP, a hazard analysis and critical control point plan.

02:27:45.000 Or they also have another for HARPC.

02:27:48.000 They boil down to the same thing.

02:27:50.000 And then basically food wardens like game wardens, you know, the kid that was a control freak in school, now he's got a gun on his side and he's coming.

02:27:59.000 Well, and you have to come, so federal agent will come and you'll have to create a very large convoluted paperwork plan that tells, you know, exactly where there could be a problem, what you're going to do about it, how you're going to monitor it, how you're going to test it, what corrective action you're going to take.

02:28:15.000 It's really detailed, and it's up to their approval.

02:28:19.000 So if they don't like what you've written, they can say, go back and do it again.

02:28:23.000 Hey, but that's like Mao's Great Leap Forward.

02:28:25.000 I mean, the government's going to help us.

02:28:28.000 You know, it's, you know, there is, there are a lot of problems at the big agribusiness, big ag, you know, big food level.

02:28:36.000 But, you know, we're not seeing problems.

02:28:38.000 You know, the local jam makers... Yeah, and folks are finding out the local markets are better, and that's not going to be allowed, so here come the police!

02:28:46.000 It's going to be, you know, it's one of those things that it's going to, I'm not sure how I say won't be allowed, but it's going to be a lot more difficult.

02:28:52.000 It's going to be one of those things that we're going to go from this thriving, vibrant, growing movement to, you know, a few people trying to hold on.

02:28:59.000 Yeah, now they're going to nickel and dime you.

02:29:01.000 Listen, they already have undercover police at the Austin markets.

02:29:04.000 I mean, they're already out there.

02:29:06.000 They're not arresting the illegal aliens, kidnapping people.

02:29:08.000 They're there harassing old women selling strawberries. 0.87

02:29:11.000 And, you know, the bigger it gets, the harder it is.

02:29:14.000 You know, when it's at a local level, when it's at a state level, you at least have the opportunity to go face-to-face with folks, go up to the state capitol and talk with them.

02:29:23.000 I don't know, I tried talking to some state police this morning and they looked right at me and they said, you get in your car and you get out of here.

02:29:30.000 Get out of here! 0.99

02:29:32.000 If you were to stay there, a long segment coming up, you'll be able to roll through all these subsections and the enforcement areas.

02:29:37.000 We'll tie it into Agenda 21 and a lot of other things like the Livable Communities Act going through.

02:29:41.000 Folks, you want to live in Soviet China? 0.85

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02:29:45.000 You're going to get a front row seat to it.

02:29:47.000 Every control freak's going to be squatting on you.

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02:32:58.000 Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order. 0.76

02:33:11.000 It's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:33:16.000 If you want to know where all of this is coming from, it's Agenda 21 of the United Nations.

02:33:23.000 All the major governments work with them.

02:33:24.000 The Chinese government loves it.

02:33:27.000 It's what they did with the Great Leap Forward.

02:33:31.000 Literally, I had a top professor on agreeing last hour.

02:33:35.000 And it's total control.

02:33:36.000 You control food and water, you control it all.

02:33:38.000 Don't collect rainwater, you know, a month in jail.

02:33:42.000 Here's a headline.

02:33:43.000 60 days in jail for overgrown grass in New York State.

02:33:46.000 WVLA.

02:33:47.000 They want to pack their prisons.

02:33:50.000 Now, they were giving people jail time here in Austin for three-inch grass, mainly old folks. 1.00

02:33:55.000 I went and showed city council people with two-foot grass, the health department with foot-tall grass, and they shut it down real quick.

02:34:03.000 But you've got to stand up against these crooks.

02:34:06.000 I mean, it's a parasitic government in almost every level.

02:34:12.000 And the local rules are federally and internationally written.

02:34:16.000 They've got international zoning law, SB 1619, SB 1619.

02:34:19.000 SB19, 1619, SB1619, the livable communities, which is a biodiversity, smart growth situation.

02:34:30.000 And their stated goal is the end of our industrial society.

02:34:33.000 And that includes farming.

02:34:34.000 And they've also got new rules they're trying to push.

02:34:36.000 And even if they can't have Congress pass it, they're saying any dust from tilling is not allowed. - Yeah.

02:34:42.000 Any dust!

02:34:44.000 Unless you buy variances like big agribusiness does.

02:34:47.000 I saw the cases years ago in the Associated Press where there'd be thousands of violations in Arkansas and they wouldn't get in trouble but then some little plant would get one violation and be shut down.

02:34:58.000 Going back to Judith McGarry of uh... the groups that are out there fighting all of this.

02:35:05.000 I appreciate her joining us.

02:35:07.000 The website's farmandranchfreedom.org.

02:35:09.000 They're trying to pass this bill next week.

02:35:11.000 Let's continue walking through some of the things it does and then let's get into the enforcement arm and then how we fight this.

02:35:16.000 Judith.

02:35:18.000 So another one of the things it does is it provides, this is partly enforcement but they don't phrase it as enforcement, it provides that FDA can charge you for the cost of the re-inspection.

02:35:28.000 So let's say they come through your little commercial kitchen where you're making a small amount of jam for the local market, and they find you've done something wrong.

02:35:37.000 One violation.

02:35:39.000 They can charge the cost of coming back.

02:35:42.000 And, you know, charge their travel expenses, charge their staff rates, you know, put the financial burden on that small little jam maker, which creates a wonderful incentive for FDA to keep telling small producers, no, you've done something wrong.

02:35:57.000 Let's remember, the FDA for more than...

02:35:59.000 You know, several decades allows certain amounts of cockroach parts, cockroach feces, rat droppings, rat hair in the food legally, but you're not gonna be on that standard.

02:36:10.000 If they don't like how your kitchen looks and doesn't have an OSHA runway to it, you know, you're gonna have trouble.

02:36:17.000 And that's one of the core issues here is FDA's discretion.

02:36:21.000 There were a lot of changes made to this bill that were intended to sort of be good for small and sustainable farms.

02:36:30.000 But they all come down to FDA's discretion.

02:36:32.000 So FDA is supposed to provide flexibility.

02:36:36.000 FDA is supposed to take into consideration diverse farming practices.

02:36:39.000 FDA can choose to exempt small-scale producers, but all of it boils down to what FDA chooses to do, and their track record is not one of helping small-scale producers.

02:36:51.000 In fact, it's completely the opposite.

02:36:53.000 And so, unfortunately, a lot of the senators are looking at this and saying, but we've addressed the issues for small farms.

02:36:59.000 Don't worry, there's flexibility, there's consideration, there's extended deadlines.

02:37:03.000 There's no death panels in the bill.

02:37:06.000 Yeah, so, and I think some of the staff literally doesn't understand it.

02:37:09.000 I mean, to be fair to them, I think they don't understand the reality of what it means to be farming on the ground, what it means to be a small-scale producer.

02:37:17.000 And they need to hear from people.

02:37:20.000 We need calls going in to the senators right now.

02:37:24.000 Saying, you know, you either need to kill this bill or at the very least exempt out the small-scale producers.

02:37:29.000 But you've seen all the videos of the Amish and others being raided by police with guns drawn.

02:37:35.000 I mean, you've seen those countless videos coming out where they come in and aim guns at people, you know, who have small food co-ops.

02:37:42.000 Yeah, I mean, it's scary what's going on.

02:37:45.000 It is very scary what is going on and it's at every level.

02:37:50.000 And right now it's scattered incidents.

02:37:53.000 Um, but the problem is anytime one of those incidents happens, all of us who are in small-scale production look around and go, ooh, could that be us next?

02:38:02.000 You know, it's terrifying to live with this idea that, you know, significant chunks of the government don't like small-scale producers.

02:38:10.000 And I'll say, you know, and Alex, you and I may disagree on this, but I've talked to some of the government officials at different levels, state, local, federal, and there are individuals in that who are good folks who do support us, who do want to see, Judith, Judith, the same thing in Communist China or Nazi Germany.

02:38:26.000 There were Nazis that tried to save Jews.

02:38:28.000 The issue here is that...

02:38:31.000 Is the direction at the top we know is to shut down family farms. 0.81

02:38:35.000 As you said earlier, that's admitted.

02:38:37.000 And I mean, we have John P. Holdren, head of the White House Science Department, saying they want to destroy an industry and literally knock us back to the Stone Age.

02:38:45.000 I played that clip on Sunday.

02:38:47.000 So yes, there are a lot of people that don't like what they're doing, but it doesn't matter.

02:38:51.000 They still do it.

02:38:53.000 Yeah, no, I agree.

02:38:54.000 I just wanted to put in, because I deal with some of these good folks on a regular basis, but the problem is the policies, the people in charge, the dominant theme is still get big or get out, and they're still listening to big agribusiness, and they're still supporting and promoting big agribusiness.

02:39:12.000 And this bill gives them every bit of flexibility they need to continue doing that.

02:39:17.000 They can continue to basically give a lot of big food and big agribusiness a free ride and, you know, slam down on small-scale producers, you know, the way that bill's written right now.

02:39:31.000 Absolutely.

02:39:33.000 So what do we do?

02:39:34.000 We call Congress?

02:39:35.000 Are there any key senators to call about this bill?

02:39:37.000 I think the key is to call the senators from your state.

02:39:41.000 So, right now, that's who you're going to have influence with.

02:39:44.000 I'd encourage everyone to call both Senators.

02:39:46.000 Remember, you have two Senators from your state.

02:39:49.000 You know, I hope you know who they are, everybody.

02:39:52.000 If you don't, you can just call the Capitol Switchboard line.

02:39:55.000 It's 202-224-3121.

02:39:55.000 And ask, you know, say I live in Texas.

02:39:58.000 I want to talk to my Senators.

02:40:05.000 And tell them to amend or oppose Senate Bill 510.

02:40:09.000 There is going to be an amendment proposed to exempt small-scale direct marketing producers from the two provisions we've been talking about.

02:40:17.000 Are Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Bilderberg member, and Cornyn supporting S510?

02:40:22.000 We don't have commitments from them either way yet.

02:40:27.000 They have not publicly taken positions yet.

02:40:31.000 And there's a new twist, speaking of enforcement, which we've sort of skimmed over, that there may be an amendment introduced to also add criminal penalties.

02:40:39.000 No, of course!

02:40:41.000 So, up till now, there haven't been criminal penalties on that bill, but Senator Leahy of Vermont introduced the bill last week to add criminal penalties, and word is that it may get tacked on as an amendment to Senate Bill 510.

02:40:54.000 What are the prospects for the bill?

02:40:56.000 I mean, is it looking bad, like it's going to pass?

02:41:00.000 You know, I've given up trying to predict this thing because I've made so many incorrect predictions on it in the last year, Alex.

02:41:08.000 Senator Coburn from Oklahoma is very strongly opposing passage of the bill currently.

02:41:13.000 His main issue that he's talked about the most is the financial impact of it and the fact that it would increase the debt.

02:41:20.000 This is an unfunded mandate.

02:41:23.000 But there's some indication that they may be able to work that out and bring the bill to a vote next week.

02:41:28.000 I think if it comes to a vote, it will pass.

02:41:31.000 I think if it comes to the floor of the Senate, there are going to be enough Senators who don't want a headline that reads, you know, Senator so-and-so opposes food safety bill, that it will ultimately pass if it comes to a vote.

02:41:46.000 A, there's room for it not to come to a vote, and B, if it comes to a vote, we need an amendment to exempt our small-scale producers.

02:41:54.000 It's not perfect, it's not the optimum, you know, it's not everything I would have wanted, but it's a good, strong amendment that's being proposed by Senator Kester.

02:42:01.000 And they just sell this hysteria of, oh, something's on the spinach coming from big factory farms.

02:42:07.000 Oh, you know, the eggs.

02:42:08.000 Again, big mega-farm, big production facility.

02:42:12.000 Meanwhile, I've done the research.

02:42:14.000 Listen to Derry Brownfield, who has constant guest on covering this.

02:42:17.000 It's on record that they do almost nothing to look at pork, beef, poultry, produce coming out of Latin America, coming out of Asia.

02:42:28.000 Almost all the enforcement is just harassing the living daylights out of small farms and ranches.

02:42:34.000 And again, that's not going to really change under this bill.

02:42:37.000 The bill does have provisions to deal with foreign facilities.

02:42:41.000 But there are two big catches to that.

02:42:43.000 The biggest catch is it deals with third-party certifiers.

02:42:47.000 So, you know, they're going to go hire companies in China to inspect Chinese facilities.

02:42:53.000 Well, we also have the FDA saying melamine in milk is not bad for children.

02:42:57.000 Pull up the AP headline.

02:42:58.000 Melamine not, you know, some melamine not bad for children.

02:43:01.000 So something that causes kidney failure and death, they say that's okay from China, but Judith McGarry, she's not going to make Blackberry Jam. 1.00

02:43:11.000 Exactly.

02:43:11.000 I mean, what we need, the track record of imported food is very poor.

02:43:16.000 I mean, very, very bad.

02:43:18.000 And the idea that third-party certification, that hiring companies within those countries is going to somehow solve the problem, really defies normal common sense and defies the track record.

02:43:31.000 It defies what we've seen happening.

02:43:34.000 I spoke with one of my folks, actually, who has a supplement company, and he was telling me he brings in ingredients from China, he does, but they do quality control, and he kept hiring companies in China to try to do quality control over there, and every time it failed.

02:43:50.000 You know, every time the quality control folks basically sold out.

02:43:55.000 And he had to, you know, return a bunch of stuff and keep doing the quality control here.

02:44:00.000 And he's a private company and he chooses to do that.

02:44:02.000 Did you know about 92% or more, but the numbers I see are 92% of our vaccines are now made in China?

02:44:10.000 You know, that's a terrifying number.

02:44:12.000 But again, that's not the problem though.

02:44:17.000 It's people selling pumpkins.

02:44:22.000 And it's, you know, they say that, and I hear, you know, I hear health inspectors talk about how dangerous food in the open air is.

02:44:29.000 It's amazing.

02:44:30.000 They're scared of open air.

02:44:31.000 And the track record, again, I like going to track records.

02:44:34.000 I like going to what have we seen.

02:44:36.000 We don't see foodborne illnesses coming out of the small producers.

02:44:40.000 You know, occasionally, very small, very sporadic.

02:44:43.000 And the media drops it when it does.

02:44:46.000 So rare!

02:44:47.000 And when it does happen, you know immediately where it comes from, you know immediately how to stop it.

02:44:52.000 It's not a widespread issue.

02:44:55.000 Well, let's give the bottom line.

02:44:56.000 You know, they irradiate the meat, they MSG, all this stuff.

02:45:01.000 They know it's the big mega producers that are as dirty as you can imagine, and they know they can't compete with good locally produced food that's organic and non-GMO.

02:45:11.000 And they know there's a rebellion worldwide to it.

02:45:13.000 Everything that's happening here is happening worldwide, because this is UN written, as I said earlier.

02:45:17.000 What are some other attacks, separate from the bill S-510, that folks need to really get on today, tomorrow, and next week?

02:45:25.000 But what are some of the other attacks?

02:45:27.000 I know there's a lot of other stuff going on.

02:45:29.000 I see the IRS three years ago saying, If your farm or ranch doesn't make money, you work in town but still run it just to keep your farm, to pay the taxes, that's not enough.

02:45:40.000 We're going to get rid of any tax exemptions you have.

02:45:42.000 I mean, they're really pulling the stops out.

02:45:46.000 Gosh, the list of threats is so long.

02:45:48.000 I mean, right now, the most immediate one is Senate Bill 510.

02:45:51.000 I mean, that's the one that is happening right now.

02:45:54.000 No long-term animal ID is still out there.

02:45:57.000 It's not dead.

02:45:58.000 It's still a continuing issue.

02:46:00.000 We've got issues of GMOs.

02:46:03.000 There's a lot of fighting.

02:46:04.000 There's actually a very current fight happening over genetically engineered salmon.

02:46:08.000 And, you know, if they manage to push through... Oh yeah, the FDA is going to approve a GMO cross-species that's had insect genes added and will extinct regular salmon, major universities have found.

02:46:18.000 That's okay, though.

02:46:19.000 Well, yeah, I mean, according to FDA it is, but we've got a chance to fight it.

02:46:23.000 Exactly, that's okay... It's the first animal.

02:46:26.000 Go ahead.

02:46:27.000 Sorry, I said, this is a key fight because it would be the first animal.

02:46:30.000 So, you know, if we can stop them from approving it, it puts a major, you know, a major barrier in their way.

02:46:37.000 If they approve it, well, guess what?

02:46:39.000 The next thing on the list is genetically engineered pigs. 1.00

02:46:43.000 So, you know, Center for Food Safety is doing excellent work on the genetically engineered salmon issue.

02:46:49.000 And that's a very current and very immediate issue.

02:46:53.000 There's also regulations that are trying to reduce the control of the big agribusinesses over the market, just the livestock market.

02:47:02.000 And we're working on that issue in coordination with other groups and trying to get rules passed, and that's coming up over the next couple of months.

02:47:10.000 So, you know, there's this back and forth.

02:47:12.000 We're fighting back against agribusiness and trying to break that control, and at the same time trying to prevent them from getting new, bad legislation and regulations in.

02:47:21.000 Well, going back to the salmon, here's all these fake environmentalists that want to put taxes on carbon dioxide that plants breathe.

02:47:28.000 Meanwhile, they want to approve a salmon which, in major controlled trials, kills and extincts the other natural salmon, and it's a genetically engineered cross-species clone.

02:47:39.000 I mean, this is incredible.

02:47:41.000 And they allow open-air planting of GMO cross-species plants everywhere that major studies show are killing the bees, you name it.

02:47:48.000 They don't care about that.

02:47:50.000 They want to send inspectors to your pecan farm, to your orange orchard. 0.74

02:47:56.000 They want to shut down your... I mean, it's just outrageous, Judith, and thank God you're there fighting these people.

02:48:03.000 What are some of the other threats, to let folks know briefly?

02:48:08.000 I'm running out of issues.

02:48:09.000 Not that I'm running out.

02:48:10.000 There are so many.

02:48:11.000 But those are the immediate ones.

02:48:12.000 And that's how I tend to focus.

02:48:13.000 Because God knows we've got our hands full.

02:48:16.000 And GMOs is a big one.

02:48:19.000 It was the most popular talk at our conference.

02:48:21.000 We had a farmer who's doing research on the effects of GMOs on health speak at our conference.

02:48:28.000 And he showed pictures of what GMO corn is doing to pig stomachs.

02:48:33.000 Animals are fed GMO corn.

02:48:35.000 Here's what their stomachs look like.

02:48:37.000 And you look at them and you feel sick and you go, oh, hmm, everybody I know with Crohn's disease, digestive problems, heartburn, I wonder if that might be because most of the corn and soybeans in this country are GMO.

02:48:50.000 You know, it's really scary.

02:48:52.000 GMO to produce their own pesticide in them, so if bugs eat it, they die, but then they feed it to us.

02:48:58.000 Gee, that's not hard to figure out.

02:49:01.000 And, you know, the sad thing is, I've actually seen a lot of people out there saying things like GMOs reduce the use of herbicides.

02:49:09.000 Well, the major GMO crops, the most widespread ones, are what's called Roundup Ready crops.

02:49:14.000 The whole point of them is that you can plant them and then spray the fields with Roundup, a herbicide, without killing the crop.

02:49:22.000 You just kill everything else.

02:49:24.000 The whole point of these GMO crops, frankly, is to allow for increased use of herbicides.

02:49:31.000 Yeah, but they have all the Bt stuff that grows the pesticide in the plant.

02:49:34.000 It's a pharmacological crop.

02:49:36.000 That too.

02:49:36.000 That's another branch of them.

02:49:38.000 So, you know, the GMOs, you know, this fight with the GE Salmon, their fights over sugar beet going on, genetically engineered sugar beet.

02:49:46.000 genetically engineered alfalfa.

02:49:48.000 These are ongoing fights that are happening, and they are incredibly important because the problem is you can't choose to really opt out of the system easily because of the reasons you were just saying.

02:49:58.000 The fish escape, the crops cross-pollinate.

02:50:02.000 The only way to protect ourselves is to start limiting the use of these GMOs.

02:50:07.000 Well, Judith, we're out of time.

02:50:09.000 I look forward to having you on in the near future.

02:50:11.000 God bless you.

02:50:11.000 I want to get you in studio.

02:50:12.000 I know you live outside Austin on your family farm.

02:50:14.000 And I think another thing is for everybody to Google local food co-ops or farmers markets.

02:50:19.000 Start going out.

02:50:20.000 The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.

02:50:23.000 If we move this movement of real, local, healthy food and really make it grow even faster, that'll give them even more targets to go after.

02:50:32.000 Resistance is victory.

02:50:33.000 We're going to come back and cover some financial news, but I really appreciate you spending time with us today.

02:50:39.000 FarmandRanchFreedom.org.

02:50:41.000 The bill's S-510.

02:50:42.000 Call your senators.

02:50:43.000 Thank you, Judith.

02:50:44.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:50:46.000 Wonderful lady.

02:50:46.000 We're going to come back and get some of the latest news on the economy and the police state on the other side of this quick break.

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02:53:57.000 All right, final segment for this hour, ladies and gentlemen. - Mm-hmm.

02:54:09.000 The hour coming up, I get into the state police run that I had in this morning.

02:54:13.000 Very depressing, but very important information being covered coming up.

02:54:19.000 They did find the article, I think that was out of the Washington Post, I'd seen it in the AP.

02:54:24.000 Uh, where is U.S.

02:54:26.000 baby formula safe?

02:54:27.000 Nobody knows for sure, but several experts tell WebMD they think U.S.

02:54:31.000 baby formula is safe despite containing trace amounts of melamine.

02:54:34.000 Yeah, yeah, no, you can actually find the headline where the FDA says some melamine's safe.

02:54:39.000 Uh, of course, it bioaccumulates in the kidneys and can cause kidney failure, but so what?

02:54:45.000 Let's just shut down local farms and ranches. 1.00

02:54:47.000 And here's a new article today.

02:54:48.000 Feds target Americans as terrorists in effort to break back of big government resistance.

02:54:56.000 And it gets into, we've got a group coming on tomorrow, a state representative put on the terror list for being part of a second amendment group in Pennsylvania.

02:55:05.000 I mean, this is the bizarreness.

02:55:07.000 This is real.

02:55:08.000 And folks, we reach new people on the AM and FM dial, internet, all of it, by you spreading the word.

02:55:13.000 Please send out links to the ListenFree links and the free iPhone app to everyone you know.

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02:55:23.000 You may know all this information, but we've got to reach more people.

02:55:27.000 Folks are really ready to hear the truth now.

02:55:31.000 And I'm glad that we see people like Glenn Beck and others covering some of this, but they don't go one-tenth as far as they need to.

02:55:38.000 And I'm sorry, I don't think a big Republican takeover of Congress is going to fix everything.

02:55:41.000 It shows the people are waking up, though.

02:55:44.000 I mean, we're in such serious times, and this depression is real.

02:55:48.000 This is so real, what's happening.

02:55:50.000 And if we just wake up to it, the nightmare can end.

02:55:53.000 The world will never be a perfect place, but we've got a lot better chance in reversing all of this tyranny and corruption.

02:56:01.000 But we've got to study history, we've got to see the facts, and we're reaching so many new people every day.

02:56:06.000 Thanks to you, spreading the word about InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, making the search terms yesterday, the top search, CNET News and others reported on Obama, Willie's stage of terror attack.

02:56:16.000 I mean, we're really having effect, and the system's doing everything they can to try to block us and shut us down and restrict people coming to InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:56:23.000 And we've got more and more foreign countries trying to block us from people being able to get to us, and that's because we're effective.

02:56:30.000 Here at the very end of this hour, because gold went up to, what, just $5 short of $1,300 an ounce.

02:56:37.000 We'll follow this tomorrow.

02:56:39.000 I wanted to briefly bring Ted Anderson up.

02:56:42.000 Ted, watching this situation, it's bittersweet.

02:56:46.000 Yeah, we're right again, but it's because the Federal Reserve is buying U.S.

02:56:51.000 debt instead of foreign governments or individuals.

02:56:53.000 I mean, more and more, they're signaling that it is the long march into depression.

02:56:59.000 Yeah, you're right about that, and that's why you're seeing so many institutional buyers get into gold, and so many people walk away from the dollar.

02:57:06.000 I mean, just about every newsletter service, even places like Bloomberg and Reuters are saying, buy gold.

02:57:14.000 You have to buy gold.

02:57:15.000 It's not like they're even leaving an option for it.

02:57:17.000 And Alex, today we've seen a high of $1,297.20.

02:57:22.000 And a low of $1,286.

02:57:23.000 You know what that means?

02:57:25.000 It means we could see $1,300 an ounce before the end of this week.

02:57:29.000 I'm going to emphasize could, but we're so close to it, Alex, that it would only take a $5 uptick and we're over $1,300 an ounce in gold.

02:57:38.000 Well, Ted, you've got silver.

02:57:40.000 The silver half dollars at $10.50 apiece.

02:57:42.000 Nobody's got them anywhere near that.

02:57:44.000 You've got gold that you bought in the last few weeks.

02:57:46.000 When it was much lower, you can pass on those savings, but it's the radio special.

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02:57:52.000 Throw out some of the special coin offers you've got, what you've got in stock at the low price.

02:58:01.000 Well again, one of the great buys right now is the Walking Liberty Half.

02:58:05.000 It's currently trading at $10.50.

02:58:08.000 We have the Frank right now.

02:58:09.000 That coin is discounted even at $2.79.

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02:58:24.000 When we come back, I'll tell you about my run-in with a modern-day Papa Smurf Yosemite Sam.

02:58:32.000 It was interesting.

02:58:34.000 I just want to say great job to the crew.

02:58:35.000 Big guest coming up tomorrow, by the way.

02:58:39.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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Alex Jones Show - September 23, 2010

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