Alex Jones Show - 20101209_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:01.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:03.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:05.000 You want answers?

00:00:06.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:08.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:12.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:16.000 Before I forget, I'm going to say out of the gates.

00:00:24.000 We're scheduled in the last 30 minutes of the broadcast tomorrow to have Senator-elect Rand Paul on.

00:00:32.000 We've got Ventura with big news on multi-fronts joining us next week.

00:00:37.000 Justin Ventura.

00:00:39.000 Today is going to be a jam-packed transmission as well.

00:00:42.000 It is the ninth day of December 2010 on this Thursday edition.

00:00:48.000 We have John Young of Cryptome, really the proto or archetype of Wikileaks and also involved at multi-levels in what you could call the founding of the Wikileaks type system.

00:01:03.000 He has a lot of inside intel on it, so he'll be joining us coming up in about 45 minutes from now.

00:01:11.000 We've got Donald Light coming on the broadcast, who is a visiting professor at Stanford University and professor of comparative health care at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, and he has written a book breaking down one of the biggest killers, if not the biggest, it's right up there with automobile accidents, are prescription drugs.

00:01:34.000 So they've got big sis with telescreens going up saying watch for terrorists everywhere and don't trust your neighbor when more people die each year from bee stings than terrorism in this country.

00:01:45.000 The border is wide open, 28,000 deaths, you know about that.

00:01:50.000 And meanwhile, we've got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of deaths from these deadly prescription drugs.

00:01:56.000 It's well known, but he's done the breakdowns and cross-referenced all the big studies.

00:02:01.000 So, Donald Light coming on about that.

00:02:04.000 One of the most dangerous things in our society.

00:02:07.000 Now, it's not as scary looking as a man wearing a turban. 1.00

00:02:11.000 I'll give you that.

00:02:14.000 And it's not as much fun to run around and be afraid at night and hide under your bed from prescription drugs.

00:02:21.000 But it is arguably the number one cause of unnatural death in this nation.

00:02:26.000 And that's the government's own admissions.

00:02:28.000 That, oh, it's killing 300-plus thou a year.

00:02:30.000 It's probably a lot more than that.

00:02:33.000 Flesh-eating bacteria.

00:02:35.000 Infections out of hospitals and clinics are killing a couple hundred thou a year.

00:02:39.000 And don't worry, they'll just keep giving antibiotics to people who don't need them.

00:02:43.000 I mean, you better only take antibiotics if you can't whip it.

00:02:47.000 I've had strep throat and things before for two weeks and I won't take it until I beat it.

00:02:53.000 Not because I don't know antibiotics are great, it's because I don't want to lower my immunity and then also contribute to growing more and more deadly bacteria.

00:03:02.000 One time I did break down though and take antibiotics when a security guard jumped out of nowhere at the Supreme Court building.

00:03:12.000 I'd walked up on a Sunday when Bilderberg had ended, and we were there shooting some video of different government buildings for cutaway shots and films.

00:03:20.000 In fact, you see the shots in the fall of the Republican-Obama deception.

00:03:24.000 And a cop jumps out and says, what are you doing?

00:03:26.000 So I kind of turned towards him, and the feet on the pillars are about two feet tall.

00:03:32.000 And I turned and just gashed my shin through the jeans, cut my shin, And I didn't really, I kind of ignored it at the time, there was a little bit of bleeding.

00:03:43.000 And so I make the joke that the Supreme Court building bit me because a month later I had pus just pouring out of my leg and they did x-rays and they found out it was rotting.

00:03:53.000 I guess kind of a gangrenous type bacteria under the skin all around the bone.

00:04:00.000 And so thank God for those antibiotics or it would have been saw my left leg off.

00:04:04.000 So I'm not saying antibiotics aren't magical.

00:04:07.000 Very important since they're being overused.

00:04:09.000 We got flesh-eating bacteria running wild everywhere, different forms of it.

00:04:14.000 I've already just gotten distracted off here at the start of the broadcast.

00:04:17.000 I'm very good at that.

00:04:19.000 So we have John Young, Donald Light, and Lord Monckton joining us from Cancun.

00:04:24.000 Boy, Big news there.

00:04:25.000 Ted Turner in the U.N.

00:04:27.000 saying global one-child policy, 95% population reductions.

00:04:32.000 We've got to shut down the industrial society.

00:04:34.000 On and on and on.

00:04:35.000 Just total brazen criminality masquerading as saviors of the world.

00:04:39.000 He'll be joining us from Cancun, there on the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico, in the war-torn region.

00:04:47.000 And we'll get into a lot more coming up on Wikileaks, the economy, you name it, straight ahead.

00:04:52.000 Key Intel, stay with us.

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00:05:56.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.

00:06:00.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

00:06:03.000 As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.

00:06:08.000 I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

00:06:15.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?

00:06:18.000 Bernanke?

00:06:18.000 They're arsonists!

00:06:19.000 They're asking for more matches!

00:06:20.000 The whole of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.

00:06:23.000 The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.

00:06:30.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.

00:06:32.000 They're asking for more matches.

00:06:34.000 And the Congress is saying, "Who do we make the checkout to?" Today, it seems like nobody does care.

00:06:38.000 And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.

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00:08:01.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

00:08:06.000 It is Thursday, 9th day of December 2010.

00:08:09.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:08:12.000 Lord Christopher Monckton joins us from the criminal summit, where the globalists are Camouflaging their world government feudal takeover, their world government establishment of feudalism, is what they're attempting.

00:08:30.000 He'll be joining us from Cancun, coming up in the last hour, Donald Light.

00:08:35.000 Again, a researcher and author dealing with how the prescription drugs are causing so many hundreds of thousands of deaths each year.

00:08:42.000 Here in the United States alone, and John Young of Cryptome is going to be joining us as well, coming up here in about 35 minutes from now.

00:08:53.000 Let me just dive straight into the news and information.

00:08:57.000 We will have Rand Paul, Senator-elect, last 30 minutes of the broadcast tomorrow.

00:09:02.000 Want to just throw that tidbit out there.

00:09:04.000 We have some other big surprise guests.

00:09:06.000 Key Intel coming up on the transmission next week of course and I'll also be live this Sunday 4 to 6 p.m.

00:09:14.000 Central Standard Time.

00:09:17.000 The London Telegraph has reported on 2010's top searches, and it's the Google Zeitgeist, top searches of 2010.

00:09:27.000 And we've actually been listed in these before, before we started having Google bombs and having listeners do that.

00:09:38.000 Films like Endgame, Obama Deception, The Name Alex Jones, Infowars.com, showing up as top search trends.

00:09:46.000 And you can actually see that on the Google Trends.

00:09:48.000 You'll notice Alex Jones is always being searched and is always in the top 100 searches or so.

00:09:54.000 And again, that's not, oh look, people are searching my name, aren't I important?

00:09:58.000 It's an indicator of the fact that we're having such a big effect.

00:10:04.000 But over the year, Alex Jones was the 10th most popular search result in the News and Current Events section of Google Analytics.

00:10:19.000 So throughout the year Alex Jones was number 10.

00:10:22.000 Other results were election 2010, rail strike, Democrat, things like that.

00:10:34.000 So very, very interesting to show the effect that we're having overall there.

00:10:38.000 That from the London Telegraph today with the headline, Google Zeitgeist Top Searches for 2010.

00:10:46.000 Okay, let's get into the financial news right now.

00:10:50.000 This is really scary.

00:10:52.000 You notice interest rates are actually going up now on mortgages, even though the official lending rate is basically zero for the big megabanks.

00:11:00.000 They get the Federal Reserve large S, backed up by taxpayer money, at basically zero percent.

00:11:08.000 And then we have to go out and get loans from them, and you've seen credit cards go up now, in many cases above 30 percent, whereas there was low lending on mortgages in the attempt to get the economy going.

00:11:20.000 Those have now spiked up in the last month.

00:11:23.000 Why is all this happening?

00:11:24.000 Because the decision has been made to devalue the dollar, to accelerate the devaluation.

00:11:30.000 The Chinese two weeks ago announced, of course, with the Russians, they will no longer engage in inner trade between the two nations back and forth, the two nations that border each other on several areas, very strong trading partners.

00:11:45.000 They will no longer use the dollar as the world reserve currency in their business exchanges.

00:11:53.000 So that has further damaged the dollar.

00:11:56.000 And there's been a lot of other things happening.

00:11:57.000 The Arabs are moving away from using the dollar.

00:11:59.000 The Euro is moving away from using the dollar.

00:12:01.000 Latin America is accelerating their move away from it. 0.99

00:12:04.000 Africa is accelerating their move away from it. 0.99

00:12:07.000 Because it's being devalued in their hands.

00:12:11.000 And short-term, as Dr. Paul Craig Roberts and other economists have explained here, as the dollar plunges, countries go in and try to buy it to prop it up because they've already been held hostage by having such giant holdings in it.

00:12:25.000 But now they're realizing, well, it doesn't matter if we try to prop it up short-term.

00:12:31.000 Over the long-term aggregate, or even on a yearly graph, which is mid-term, The dollar is being devalued and the writing is on the wall.

00:12:40.000 So that is a big deal.

00:12:41.000 And all other major currencies are going to follow this as well until all currencies are debased.

00:12:46.000 And then they will, of course, then force everyone onto the SDR that's already in full operation, which is a completely digital cashless system run by the IMF and World Bank.

00:12:56.000 And to give the, quote, currency, digital currency, some backup and some supposed value, it will be under the credit and faith of the planet and the carbon taxes, the VAT taxes, the Tobin taxes, the travel taxes all paid directly to the bankers that have engineered this collapse.

00:13:14.000 And now we're seeing more evidence of that CNBC bond prices plunge for second day on deficit fears.

00:13:24.000 U.S.

00:13:25.000 Treasuries plunged yesterday, Wednesday extending Tuesday's sharp losses and pushing benchmark yields to a six-month high after a deal in Washington to extend tax cuts fueled fears of inflation and swelling budget deficit.

00:13:41.000 So it continues from there.

00:13:43.000 See, if they don't suppress the economy and have a depression on Main Street, all of these tens of trillions of dollars pumped into the global markets will cause inflation.

00:13:56.000 So that's why the banks don't loan this money out to the general public.

00:14:01.000 They're freezing it.

00:14:02.000 The money is only for them to use to consolidate and buy up infrastructure.

00:14:06.000 But if they do cut taxes, that will let the economy grow a bit more, and then more of that money will flow to the people, and so that will accelerate inflation.

00:14:18.000 But in my view, they're already inflating The currency, they're already devaluing it, and it's better to at least have some of our money in the short term before it's completely devalued than have our money devalued in the long term and have the economy continue to stall into a total depression.

00:14:37.000 But, side issue.

00:14:40.000 Continuing, U.S.

00:14:42.000 Treasuries hit by biggest sell-off in two years.

00:14:45.000 People are not buying them.

00:14:48.000 When the Treasury offers them on the open market, people aren't buying them.

00:14:52.000 So you're having record monetization of the private Federal Reserve that takes our tax money, we have to back this up, and then buys U.S.

00:15:01.000 debt.

00:15:02.000 And then, of course, they get the interest on it.

00:15:04.000 Out of nothing!

00:15:07.000 And China is the biggest owner of Treasuries, but right behind them is the private Federal Reserve.

00:15:11.000 And if this continues, by the middle of next year, CNBC has even reported that the Federal Reserve, the private cartel, will be the biggest owner of our debt.

00:15:20.000 So the private banker is completely owning us.

00:15:24.000 Treasuries suffered their biggest two-day sell-off since the collapse of Lehman Brothers following a torrid month that has seen borrowing costs for Western governments soar.

00:15:24.000 U.S.

00:15:34.000 See, Germany, Portugal, Greece, Ireland, the nation's cost to borrow money from the private central banks that we the people back up and fund with taxes, that cost is going up.

00:15:51.000 And it's been even reported by the Irish newspapers that this debt is not owed by the Irish people.

00:15:57.000 It's the bank's derivatives debt.

00:15:59.000 But they're saying, sorry, Ireland will now be totally owned by offshore banks, and we're raising your taxes and cutting your benefits.

00:16:06.000 I mean, it's just pure robbery.

00:16:08.000 And people say, oh, the Irish, you know, they, you know, the Greeks, it's their fault.

00:16:13.000 We're all in the same boat together.

00:16:15.000 We're all being sucked dry.

00:16:17.000 It's just happening in a domino effect where the globalists suck one country dry and then move on to the next.

00:16:23.000 That's always been the model that they've used over and over again.

00:16:28.000 So, continuing here, Germany, Japan and the U.S.

00:16:32.000 have all seen their benchmark Market interest rates rise by more than a quarter in the past month, while the UK has risen by nearly a fifth.

00:16:44.000 You could argue that we are at the next stage where the global cost of capital goes higher and higher.

00:16:49.000 See, the bankers have ordered the thousands of trillions, and they've got all these toxic assets.

00:16:55.000 They hold everybody hostage.

00:16:56.000 The governments raise taxes, pump money into the banks, and then the banks say, okay, now I'm going to raise the price for you.

00:17:05.000 For you to get that loan, whether you're a government or a corporation or individual.

00:17:09.000 I mean, it's total global consolidation.

00:17:13.000 You could argue that we are in the next stage where the global cost of capital goes higher and higher, and that's the inflation, said Stephen Major, Global Head of Fixed Income Research, HSBC.

00:17:24.000 Oh, but what do you get at your bank?

00:17:25.000 You might get 1%, but the bankers, they get 30% on your credit card?

00:17:29.000 You figuring this out?

00:17:31.000 The yields on a 10-year U.S.

00:17:33.000 Treasuries hit a six-month high of 3.33% on Wednesday, up 0.39% points from Monday, and 1% higher than its October low.

00:17:43.000 Japanese five-year yields also rose the most in two years, while Germany's benchmark borrowed cost hit 3%.

00:17:50.000 People are getting out of the market and moving to the sidelines, feeling shell-shocked at the speed of the rise in yields, said David Adler, strategist for CRT Capital.

00:18:03.000 And it just goes on from there.

00:18:05.000 This is big, big news.

00:18:06.000 The market moves came after President Obama agreed with Congressional Republicans to extend Bush-era tax cuts and combine them with a $120 billion payroll tax holiday.

00:18:16.000 But investors and traders were divided on whether this was sufficient to explain the recent global spike in yields.

00:18:27.000 And here's the key.

00:18:28.000 The primary explanation is that growth expectations have increased because of better economic data and the second stimulus provided by the U.S.

00:18:37.000 government.

00:18:38.000 But others argue it could be due to fears that the U.S.

00:18:41.000 Federal Reserve will not follow through on asset purchases or because of higher government deficits.

00:18:47.000 It is probably all three, said Mr. Major.

00:18:52.000 So, it continues.

00:18:53.000 And by the way, they tried to suppress gold and silver the last three days.

00:18:56.000 They're both shooting right back up to those all-time highs right now, today.

00:19:03.000 Okay, in other news, again, Monckton's coming up in the last hour.

00:19:08.000 They are at the Copenhagen Summit.

00:19:12.000 Part two in, that's what they're calling it, part two in Cancun, Mexico, openly trying to get rid of the UN treaty signed decades ago banning chemtrailing or geoengineering.

00:19:26.000 They're actually down there admitting they just want to go public with their manipulation of the weather that's already going on.

00:19:32.000 As they play God and set the precedent to be able to do whatever they want.

00:19:35.000 And again, have a global treaty to deal with that.

00:19:39.000 We've got the latest on Wikileaks and John Young of Krypton coming up.

00:19:44.000 Really the granddaddy of the Wikileaks type system.

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00:24:11.000 Every time I mention Dyncore or Halliburton running giant child kidnapping rings, I get sent comments or see emails of people saying, what are you talking about?

00:24:24.000 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

00:24:26.000 Well, we've probably written 20, 30 articles, I haven't counted them up, over the years at PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com, linking to BBC, AP, Reuters, you name it.

00:24:40.000 DynCorp runs, in the United States, the biggest percentage of private contractors that are CPS agents, kidnapping your children, no judge, no jury, no due process.

00:24:53.000 But I'm talking about overseas predominantly, but also in Latin America, DynCorp, Halliburton, they don't just kidnap women and children.

00:25:03.000 They kidnap men.

00:25:04.000 It's come out in major newspapers like the Chicago Tribune and take them to third world countries in giant slave camps and have them work in brick factories.

00:25:14.000 Eastern European men, Arab men, I mean, it's like slavery 300 years ago.

00:25:22.000 And it comes out and then nobody gets in trouble.

00:25:24.000 But it's interesting, people are now going through the tens of thousands of WikiLeaks documents And the Houston Press is reporting on, and links to other mainstream news articles about it, WikiLeaks.

00:25:38.000 Texas company helped pimp little boys to stoned Afghan cops.

00:25:44.000 And this is just a State Department cable with the Afghans complaining, because you know, It's come out with Blackwater and the cocaine parties and the naked men all wallowing around in federal court. 0.91

00:25:59.000 That's come out and the going outside at night naked in Baghdad and just shooting up cars for fun. 0.66

00:26:05.000 I mean, and we're like, that's our patriotic men from DynCorp.

00:26:11.000 That's our patriotic men.

00:26:14.000 Excuse me, DynCorp is with the sex slaverings worldwide. 1.00

00:26:16.000 I'm sorry.

00:26:17.000 That's our patriotic men from Blackwater now XC.

00:26:24.000 That's who they hire.

00:26:26.000 That's what they do.

00:26:28.000 Okay?

00:26:29.000 That's their business at DynCorp.

00:26:31.000 I mean, I could play the Congressional hearings right now for you.

00:26:37.000 I've played them many times.

00:26:38.000 You just go to YouTube and type in, Congressional hearing brings up DynCorp and child kidnapping.

00:26:47.000 And they ask Rumsfeld about it in the committee hearing, and why didn't they get in trouble?

00:26:51.000 And he says, oh, they don't get in trouble.

00:26:55.000 They just kind of laugh about it.

00:26:56.000 It's funny to them.

00:27:00.000 And so when I get up here and I explain to you this is going on, I have seen hundreds of mainstream news articles about UN peacekeepers, DynCorp, the UN, every month, no matter where they are.

00:27:15.000 Haiti, in the Caribbean, or Africa, or Asia, or Central Asia.

00:27:19.000 It doesn't matter.

00:27:21.000 That's who these people are.

00:27:23.000 That's what they do.

00:27:27.000 And it's come out in Italian television, tied in with some of these big contractor groups and organizations in the U.S.

00:27:36.000 with snuff films.

00:27:38.000 And I've seen the English translations of the Italian newspapers on this stuff.

00:27:43.000 The whole world knows about this, but the average American, where it'll describe two male toddlers and what they do to them, and then they blow their heads off with a revolver on video.

00:27:55.000 This is sold in the U.S.

00:27:56.000 And I've walked up to cops in front of the Dine Corps building in Austin and said, you know, that's Dine Corps.

00:28:11.000 They've been in the news involved in this.

00:28:13.000 You guys want to bust some real criminals.

00:28:14.000 And the cops all laughed at me.

00:28:16.000 And then one of them said, the commander said, yeah, I work for them.

00:28:22.000 I do work for them and laughed at me.

00:28:23.000 And they had all this demonic look on their faces.

00:28:26.000 Like when they hear about real crime, it's funny.

00:28:29.000 Oh, it's real funny.

00:28:31.000 It's like that FBI agent I called the Threat Fusion Center two days ago, the videos up on InfoWars and Prison Planet, and I said, here's Anwar al-Awlaki, mainstream news, top al-Qaeda, secretly hanging out at the Pentagon, and he's behind all the recent attacks, and all the patsies, and I want to report on bombs in Building 7, and I want to send you the videos of this, and the guy said, alright, here's the P.O.

00:28:52.000 box, and hung up on me.

00:28:55.000 I'd have called up and said, my neighbor's doing something in their garage.

00:28:58.000 They got guns.

00:28:59.000 That guy would have been, what?

00:29:01.000 OK, let me write this down right now.

00:29:03.000 Oh, a citizen we can throw in jail?

00:29:04.000 Oh, let me get on him right now.

00:29:07.000 Oh, I saw an old lady. 1.00

00:29:09.000 She isn't recycling her newspaper.

00:29:11.000 Oh, we'll call the police.

00:29:12.000 There'll be an environmental officer there.

00:29:13.000 Give her a fine. 1.00

00:29:14.000 Good job, but you like to work for us as a spy in the community?

00:29:17.000 I mean, that's all this is.

00:29:19.000 Do you hear your neighbors criticizing the government?

00:29:21.000 That's on record.

00:29:23.000 But oh, let me tell you who the actual terrorists are.

00:29:25.000 I have smoking guns.

00:29:26.000 I have government documents with a plan 9-11.

00:29:28.000 Uh, I'm not going to talk to you.

00:29:30.000 Click.

00:29:32.000 Officers, DynCorp, they're involved in giant child kidnapping rings worldwide.

00:29:36.000 And they run the local CPS.

00:29:38.000 I know, I work for them.

00:29:40.000 Alex, get out of here!

00:29:43.000 You think you're safe from the New World Order cops?

00:29:45.000 We're on the march.

00:29:47.000 The Empire's on the run.

00:29:49.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:29:52.000 You may be arrested and or subject to other police action.

00:29:59.000 Tyranny is here.

00:30:00.000 The grim future foretold in 1984 has become reality.

00:30:04.000 It really says that the state is God.

00:30:07.000 The United States is now recognized globally as one of the most oppressive police states on Earth.

00:30:13.000 This film conclusively proves the existence of a secret network of FEMA camps, now being expanded nationwide.

00:30:19.000 This documentary exposes how the continuity of government program has established an all-powerful shadow state.

00:30:25.000 Police State 4 chronicles the sickening depth to which our republic has fallen.

00:30:29.000 Prepare to enter the secretive world of emergency dictatorship.

00:30:34.000 Body scanners, sound cannons, citizen spies, stage terror and cameras on every street corner.

00:30:40.000 It's only the beginning of the New World Order's hellish plan. 0.92

00:30:43.000 The police state isn't coming.

00:30:45.000 It's here.

00:30:46.000 Secure your copy today at InfoWars.com or see it online in the highest quality at PrisonPlanet.tv Hi, this is Alex Jones.

00:30:59.000 You've heard me talk about the delicious, easy-to-fix, and very storable foods from eFoodsDirect.com.

00:31:04.000 I've told you for years that eFoodsDirect has the best storable food on the planet.

00:31:09.000 Now it's that time of year again, and their holiday special is here.

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00:31:51.000 This is Alex Jones with five good reasons you should consider buying a solar-powered Number 1.

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00:32:51.000 What we've got here is failure to communicate.

00:32:53.000 0365 What we've got here is Failure to communicate Some man you just can't reach So you get what we had here last week Which is the way he wants it Well, he gets it.

00:33:13.000 I don't like it any more than you do.

00:33:22.000 Waging war on corruption.

00:33:24.000 It's Alex Jones.

00:33:29.000 Coming up in about 12 minutes, John Young of Cryptome.org, who even the New York Observer calls the granddaddy of the whole Wikileaks-type movement.

00:33:40.000 He'll be joining us with his inside intel on Wikileaks.

00:33:44.000 We've got Lord Monckton coming up in the last hour from Cancun, Mexico, where they're again openly promoting eugenics, forced population reduction, world government. 0.94

00:33:55.000 I was getting into the latest WikiLeaks cables with DynCorp involved peddling little boys.

00:34:04.000 Well, that's... See, their security operations are a cover for trafficking in illegal things.

00:34:13.000 And they've got diplomatic immunity, just like they're always catching U.N.

00:34:17.000 ambassadors and people and workers shipping drugs, sex slaves in their houses.

00:34:22.000 You see that every few months in the news because they're above the law.

00:34:26.000 So I just want you to know that's coming up.

00:34:28.000 Also, class action filed over newborn babies' blood.

00:34:31.000 It's now becoming mainstream news.

00:34:33.000 You notice these suits are all being filed in Austin because we've been talking about it for 15 years.

00:34:38.000 They're taking baby's blood at birth, and they now, in one suit they settled, got the documents, as I told people they would, that the Army has a secret DNA database.

00:34:49.000 So now there's a new suit on that.

00:34:52.000 And the Army pays the hospitals to take your blood. 0.96

00:34:55.000 It's through the Health Department, which was set up over a hundred years ago as the Racial Hygiene Department.

00:35:01.000 The U.S.

00:35:02.000 government controlling the health departments has sterilized millions of Americans from the 1920s right through the 1980s.

00:35:10.000 So if they come and grab you in a truck and take you and chop your uterus out, oh, they didn't just tie their tubes, they went inside. 1.00

00:35:18.000 Sometimes they do medical surgeries for fun, they'd kill people sometimes, they'd kill newborn babies.

00:35:23.000 Of course they take your blood secretly for a DNA database.

00:35:26.000 People had to catch them in the 80s and stop the secret sterilizations and the kidnappings. 0.51

00:35:32.000 So of course they're taking your blood secretly.

00:35:34.000 That's now ABC News.

00:35:39.000 They're still trying to whitewash it.

00:35:40.000 Oh, the Pentagon has your blood. 0.97

00:35:42.000 Gee, they think you're cattle. 0.99

00:35:45.000 They think they own you, okay?

00:35:47.000 I was telling you about DynCorp and child kidnapping yesterday.

00:35:51.000 Here it is in the WikiLeaks from the U.S.

00:35:53.000 government, going, gee, the Afghans are getting mad about them taking their kids. 0.77

00:35:58.000 Here in America, we just go, oh, the neighbor saw me spank my kid. 1.00

00:36:02.000 Here, DynCorp, ship little Bobby to Saudi Arabia. 1.00

00:36:06.000 They like to rape children. 1.00

00:36:08.000 I do what law enforcement says! 1.00

00:36:10.000 Alright, I'm going to shut up.

00:36:12.000 I'm just getting really angry and really tired of people being in denial out there.

00:36:16.000 Grow up and realize how much trouble we're in.

00:36:21.000 There's pure evil going on all around us.

00:36:22.000 Just the average person is in denial.

00:36:25.000 I'm not in denial.

00:36:26.000 Alright.

00:36:28.000 I'm going to get off the high horse, but I'm not on a high horse.

00:36:32.000 I'm angry.

00:36:34.000 I'm angry and I'm sick of it.

00:36:36.000 And I'm not the weirdo because I'm angry about major defense contractors involved in every crime you can imagine.

00:36:44.000 On record, they never get in trouble.

00:36:47.000 Now, for the next ten minutes, I want to go to Steve Shank of efoodsdirect.com because he's got a Christmas special that he's running right now that is so important.

00:37:02.000 We need to get self-sufficient, and this is the storable food company I support, that I believe in, and just like he told you a year and a half ago, because he manufactures and puts his own food, you know, all produced in America together, non-GMO, non-hybrid, doesn't have the additives in it.

00:37:16.000 He saw the prices going up for wholesalers.

00:37:19.000 Now the media is talking about the food bubble.

00:37:22.000 Well, it's not a food bubble.

00:37:23.000 The dollar is being devalued globally, and food is traded worldwide still on the dollar.

00:37:28.000 Steve Schenck, first off, you were right about food prices going up.

00:37:31.000 They're going up globally.

00:37:33.000 Well, it doesn't take brain surgery to figure out what's going on with this thing.

00:37:39.000 The fascinating experience that we're having is they're pumping a whole bunch of goofy money into the economy, which is devaluing the dollar, at the same time we've got foreclosure rates.

00:37:51.000 By the way, on the foreclosure rates, Alex, it's absolutely absurd.

00:37:54.000 You hear about the percentages each month, but you don't hear about the cumulative stuff, the people that are still out of their homes from a year ago.

00:38:03.000 And the jobless rate's going nuts.

00:38:04.000 And now they've got the Senate Bill number 510.

00:38:07.000 I'm sure that you're up and down all over that one because when we've got a bad situation where families can't afford food now because they've got no jobs and they don't have homes to live in, now they're wanting to control the ability of us to grow our own and to be able to traffic in food itself. now they're wanting to control the ability of us to Oh, it shuts down the truck farms.

00:38:27.000 It shuts down all these little farms holding on by selling locally the communes, the co-ops.

00:38:35.000 They're just sprouting up everywhere.

00:38:37.000 It's panicking the system.

00:38:38.000 Every week we see video from surveillance cameras of police SWAT teaming Amish, SWAT teaming little farms, selling eggs. 0.95

00:38:47.000 I mean, they're going nuts. 0.70

00:38:49.000 Yeah.

00:38:50.000 And then we've got Gerald Zelente, where he's coming out with the absolute facts about what he has predicted before, which he's been absolutely right on.

00:38:58.000 And now he's talking strictly about food.

00:39:02.000 We're in the fifth year of that worldwide famine, Alex, that you and I have talked about regularly.

00:39:07.000 We got people not just buying the treasuries now, they're dumping their treasuries. 0.52

00:39:12.000 Absolutely.

00:39:13.000 Absolutely.

00:39:14.000 And the fact is that Salente has come out very strongly with regard to exactly what is going to solve the individual family's problem.

00:39:26.000 We can't do much about all this New World Order stuff except be aware of it and adjust for it, but the solution that we have There's only one. 0.99

00:39:35.000 It's gotta be food.

00:39:37.000 You know, right now, in fact, in Salenti's last article that we were reading here at the office just the other day, the dependency on food is so absolute.

00:39:48.000 That the true freedom fighters right now have a food supply.

00:39:52.000 That's the way you fight it.

00:39:54.000 You fight for your freedom with food.

00:39:56.000 And that's why we've come up with this holiday thing.

00:40:00.000 I think everyone that knows about us realizes that every time during the holiday season we come up with the best shot we can at getting the most food into as many family homes as possible.

00:40:13.000 And looking at the financial structure that we've got in the economy right now, Uh, this last one is probably the best we've ever done, Alex, but because it's absolutely needed.

00:40:24.000 Uh, what we've done is we've taken the 12-month food supply and broken it down so that you can get it in six-month supplies, but if you buy two of them, The shipping is free, and you also save $260 in addition to the savings on the shipping cost.

00:40:39.000 Yeah, you've offered free shipping before, which I've never seen any other company do, because for those that don't know, one of the biggest expenses is the shipping, because food is heavy.

00:40:49.000 This is a lot of food.

00:40:50.000 But then to add a discount on the food as well, and folks, the reason you go with eFoodsDirect, number one, they're the biggest, the longest continually operating.

00:40:58.000 Others claim that they've been operating longer.

00:41:00.000 I've done the research.

00:41:01.000 It's not the case.

00:41:02.000 This is new food.

00:41:04.000 It's high quality.

00:41:05.000 You know you can trust it.

00:41:06.000 This is where I get my storable food.

00:41:08.000 It's a great price.

00:41:10.000 They're great sponsors of the Freedom Movement for decades.

00:41:15.000 The J. Michael Stevens Group, efoodsdirect.com, Steve Schenck, the owner, is with us.

00:41:20.000 I hope You take advantage of this, and I'm going to be honest with you.

00:41:22.000 I've got family, you know, who is struggling over the years.

00:41:26.000 I've bought them year's supplies of food, you know, because that's where I invest is in my family.

00:41:33.000 Or whether it's a month's supply.

00:41:35.000 They've got a lot of other six-month specials, you name it.

00:41:38.000 But again, Steve, give folks the specific special you're offering for the holidays and how long you're going to be offering it.

00:41:46.000 This is a six-month supply.

00:41:47.000 We've also got two other supplies that they can look up on the Internet.

00:41:50.000 By the way, on the Internet, it's efoodsdirect.com slash Alex.

00:41:55.000 efoodsdirect.com slash Alex.

00:41:58.000 For those of you that aren't all that computer savvy, get on 800-409-5633.

00:42:01.000 on 800-409-5633, 800-409-5633.

00:42:08.000 And if you put together two of these specials, the shipping is absolutely free.

00:42:15.000 But on each one of them, you've got $260 saved.

00:42:20.000 savings, which is just absolutely remarkable.

00:42:23.000 So very simply, what we've done, Alex, is try and get the very most of the very best food out for the very least so that people, a lot of folks, we did a special during the Black Friday thing, and we were absolutely amazed at the number of people that are saying, and we were absolutely amazed at the number of people that are saying, heck with this thing, we're putting our Christmas money into something that can really mean something for us in

00:42:50.000 You know, I was out in my garage this morning looking at my storable food, the attic's full of food.

00:42:56.000 I've got a three-year supply for my whole family.

00:42:59.000 And then I went in and checked my guns in the gun safe and even did a little oiling this morning.

00:43:06.000 And I only do that a few times a year, but the point is, Just my instinct told me, go look at your food, go look at your guns.

00:43:12.000 And it's not that I live in fear.

00:43:13.000 I'm like the ant who prepares for the winter, not the grasshopper.

00:43:17.000 It's that as a man and as a steward of my family and my community, I need to be prepared and not be dependent on others.

00:43:25.000 That is the first thing I'm to do.

00:43:27.000 The Bible says that.

00:43:28.000 And anybody who's got half a brain knows you need God, guns, guts, food, your bullets, your beans, your Bibles.

00:43:36.000 It's very, very simple.

00:43:38.000 and this food lasts more than 10 years in climate controlled.

00:43:42.000 10 years.

00:43:44.000 And, you know, I do things like, after I've got food that's getting to be six, seven years old, I give it to the food bank, or I start eating it, or I take it to the deer camp.

00:43:53.000 A lot of this food is really tasty and good, even from companies years ago I got it from, before I knew about eFoodsDirect.

00:43:59.000 But the last three waves, and the last four years I bought from the J. Michael Stevens Group, eFoodsDirect.com, Because they've got the highest quality.

00:44:07.000 Some of the other companies that, you know, you'll see MSG, or it'll have fillers, or it's, you know, from China, or whatever.

00:44:13.000 The government MREs, not trustworthy. 0.70

00:44:16.000 There's some good companies out there that produce them.

00:44:19.000 But when you go to eFoodsDirect.com, you know it's high quality.

00:44:22.000 Briefly, tell folks about, we've got a wide spectrum of food.

00:44:25.000 Gourmet, pre-packaged, the raw foods.

00:44:28.000 You've got a bunch of different things you offer.

00:44:31.000 Well, basically, the whole idea is that If people are going to bet their lives on what they put into their food savings account, they've got to have everything.

00:44:41.000 You've got the bulk items, the dehydrated foods that are the mainstays.

00:44:46.000 You've got the Nutraversal soups and chilis and breads that have the vitamins in them.

00:44:51.000 Yep, absolutely, and they're prepared.

00:44:54.000 Most of the prepared items are so easy, the design was based on the fact that a 10-year-old can prepare every one of those prepared meals.

00:45:04.000 And so the fact is that you will not find better tasting food, and what's happening is that people are able to save it, and they can use it.

00:45:16.000 A lot of people right now, with the economy the way it is, We've got hundreds, virtually thousands of people that are using this food on a regular basis to supplement their budget.

00:45:25.000 Oh yeah, you warned them years ago, buy the food before the dollar devalues more, then you have that saving later because this is really tasty food.

00:45:32.000 eFoodsDirect, the letter E, foodsdirect.com, give them the toll free number.

00:45:37.000 800-409-5633.

00:45:38.000 800-409-5633.

00:45:41.000 That's 800-409-5633.

00:45:44.000 Or eFoodsDirect.com.

00:45:46.000 Well, Steve, I can't think of more important work than what you're doing and your support of this broadcast as well.

00:45:54.000 You are the place to get food that people can really trust and depend on.

00:46:01.000 Tell people that in the Great Depression, major universities have estimated, over the 10 years, 7 million people died from illnesses related to malnutrition and starvation.

00:46:13.000 That's with about 89 to 90 percent, depending on the study, of people being agrarian or living on the farm or near a farm.

00:46:20.000 Now we're right at 90 percent urban.

00:46:23.000 Only half of the 10 percent that live on farms are self-sufficient.

00:46:27.000 With the type of depression that's unfolding, prepare for, you know, the worst.

00:46:31.000 I'm hoping for the best, but it's important, ladies and gentlemen, to get storable food, eFoodsDirect.com.

00:46:38.000 And again, Steve, in closing, that number one more time, the offer is, one more time, tell folks a specific offer on the free shipping and the discount.

00:46:46.000 Okay, it's a six-month supply that we've put together, and if they put two of them together, it's free shipping.

00:46:54.000 but there's a total savings of $260 right out of the chute on that.

00:46:58.000 And as far as the call, 800-409-5633.

00:47:00.000 And on the net, efoodsdirect.com slash Alex.

00:47:06.000 Alex, I sure appreciate your help.

00:47:08.000 Well, Steve, we sure appreciate you coming on the broadcast with us.

00:47:12.000 God bless you.

00:47:13.000 There goes Steve Schenck of efoodsdirect.com.

00:47:16.000 I wouldn't procrastinate if I was you, ladies and gentlemen.

00:47:18.000 And if you ended up not needing this food, you can eat your investment.

00:47:20.000 It's insurance you can eat, but the way this world's going, it's important to be self-sufficient.

00:47:26.000 I want to, for the next 30 minutes or so, talk to John Young, the editor and one of the key founders of Cryptome.org.

00:47:37.000 It's been around since 1996 by independent scholars.

00:47:41.000 and the architect John Young and others and the New York Observer had a article that quoted myself the original WikiLeaker and it's got my quote in here and I think it says it all that his work is very important said Alex Jones the radio host and founder of InfoWars.com I don't really know of anybody who was posting secret classified and restricted but also open source documents to a site and creating a library

00:48:10.000 And they cut my quote off there, I went on to say, before Cryptome.

00:48:14.000 You have to say that he is the granddaddy of the WikiLeaks type phenomenon.

00:48:18.000 And he also knows some of the WikiLeakers and has had a critical view of Assange in the past.

00:48:25.000 But now with all of this unfolding, we'll get John Young's breakdown on what he thinks is going on here.

00:48:33.000 John, thanks for joining us.

00:48:34.000 Hello, Alex.

00:48:35.000 Good to hear from you.

00:48:36.000 Good to have you here with us.

00:48:38.000 We're going to break in a moment.

00:48:42.000 I have always stated that I believe Assange was being set up as a unwitting or perhaps witting asset of the CIA, like a Lee Harvey Oswald.

00:48:50.000 We know there's the George Soros, Leslie Gelb, all of those connections there.

00:48:58.000 And Wayne Madsen has agreed with you that it's suspicious, so has Webster Tarpley.

00:49:02.000 Now it appears that they're going to use this as an electronic 9-11 and they're announcing to come in and start shutting down web freedom on the internet.

00:49:15.000 Yeah, that's a kind of talk they're making now.

00:49:20.000 I think they'd like to keep this going about another 10 years so they can keep asking for more money for it.

00:49:26.000 So I think they'll keep making these rumbling noises and hope that Wikileaks or others like it will continue doing this thing because it's a tremendous way to raise funds for governments.

00:49:37.000 Again, they get to build their giant cyber security spying grids in the name of countering their own leakers.

00:49:42.000 That's right, and that's why they set up cyber com hombos holding the hands of WikiLeaks to do so.

00:49:50.000 Amazing.

00:49:50.000 Well, I mean, when we look at this, these women that set him up, one of them is absolutely, you know, in Cuba running CIA ops.

00:49:59.000 I mean, this is really... What do you think of Assange?

00:50:02.000 Do you agree they're setting him up as the fall guy?

00:50:06.000 It's possible.

00:50:07.000 Often people are fed up with their not being completely witting about it.

00:50:11.000 And it's not hard to do.

00:50:14.000 Because there's a constant drumbeat of, we need to challenge authority, we need to challenge the CIA, we need to do this and that.

00:50:21.000 And so this is a fairly well-known way to get some traction for a website or an initiative and to raise some money through it.

00:50:30.000 And so the allegation of having sexual affairs is usually a component of that.

00:50:36.000 Well, they claim that about Daniel Ellsberg.

00:50:37.000 Stay there.

00:50:38.000 Segment coming up.

00:50:39.000 We'll continue to get into your overall view of the history of WikiLeaks, who's behind it, what's really happening with Julian Assange, these massive hack attacks against Sweden and MasterCard and Visa.

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00:53:53.000 John Young of Cryptome.org is our guest.

00:54:10.000 He knows a lot about at least the founding of Wikileaks and some of the people involved.

00:54:17.000 But it's on record that Cass Sunstein who said that they would basically sabotage the web by posing As freedom fighters and leakers really introduced WikiLeaks to the world in 2007 in an editorial in the Washington Post that he wrote.

00:54:33.000 So it's pretty much admitted this is a CIA group as Mr. Young said on this show over a year ago and predicted much of what's now unfolded.

00:54:43.000 If you're going to have a trillion dollar war in Afghanistan or Iraq, you've got to go stage some terror attacks, fund the opposition. 0.82

00:54:49.000 If you're going to have an excuse to take over the web and spy on everybody, You've got to finance some leaks.

00:54:56.000 And you see the media, the way they supported it, the way they always hype it up.

00:54:59.000 But I think, again, Assange is a useful dupe that they're flushing down the toilet.

00:55:04.000 But time will tell.

00:55:05.000 I mean, specifically, John, walk through what you believe is happening here, the founding of WikiLeaks, where you think this is going.

00:55:14.000 John, give us your view on the statements I just made. .

00:55:27.000 He must have lost our audio.

00:55:28.000 I can hear him typing.

00:55:31.000 That happens with phones sometimes.

00:55:33.000 John Young, can you hear me?

00:55:35.000 Alright, we'll call him back.

00:55:44.000 Okay, John.

00:55:45.000 Go through your original concerns about WikiLeaks.

00:55:50.000 Well, as you know, Alex, I was sucker-punched into serving as a public face at WikiLeaks, because I didn't want any of them to be named in the registration of the website.

00:56:00.000 So I did it, because I've done it for others.

00:56:03.000 And I was led to believe that it was a public benefit operation.

00:56:06.000 But within a few weeks, it announced that it intended to raise $5 million in the first six months.

00:56:11.000 I said, wait a minute.

00:56:13.000 That doesn't sound like public benefit to me.

00:56:15.000 that sound like a high-value funded program.

00:56:21.000 And I mentioned two examples, CIA and Soros.

00:56:25.000 I didn't accuse them of that.

00:56:26.000 I said it would be like that, in which deep pockets are funding some.

00:56:29.000 You can't just raise money by an unknown organization in that brief period of time.

00:56:33.000 And we know that businesses do that, though, with the same kind of rollout.

00:56:37.000 And so that was my first sense, that this was a business operation, not a public benefit operation.

00:56:42.000 And it turned out to be that.

00:56:44.000 So, and others may make the link to CIA and Soros, by the way, both of whom use the same techniques of claiming to be public benefit.

00:56:56.000 But far from being the only ones, churches do it, educational institutions do it, and so forth.

00:57:01.000 So that public benefit is a well-known subterfuge for actually making pretty good money these days.

00:57:06.000 Of course, following the government model.

00:57:11.000 Okay, now, so, I mean, that's important to admit.

00:57:14.000 You registered, and that's been confirmed, the WikiLeaks URL to begin with.

00:57:18.000 When was that, John?

00:57:19.000 That was in December 2007.

00:57:22.000 And have you seen the fact that it was Cass Sunstein that basically introduced them to the world?

00:57:26.000 Say that again, Alex.

00:57:30.000 It was Cass Sunstein who introduced WikiLeaks to the world in that Washington Post article he wrote in 2007.

00:57:40.000 And this is a guy who openly says that he would pose as activist on the web as a pretext to bring censorship in, and now they're introducing the legislation to do just that.

00:57:49.000 I mean, this is pretty obvious.

00:57:51.000 Well, it's certainly a complicated story and needs to be watched very carefully because I think there's a lot of smoke being blown about this and that a lot of the usual excultation and accusation is being rolled out as part of that smoke blowing on all parties' sides.

00:58:06.000 Some of the enthusiasts for WikiLeaks seem to be operating in concert with some of its opponents.

00:58:11.000 It looks like they're in lockstep to me.

00:58:14.000 Okay, stay there.

00:58:14.000 Really?

00:58:15.000 We're back in one minute, John.

00:58:17.000 One minute break.

00:58:17.000 I want to try to give you the floor so that I'm not just asking the questions.

00:58:21.000 I want to give you the floor to break down what you think's going on and to cut through this fog of war, this fog of info war, and give us a clear image of what you, a true insider, thinks.

00:58:33.000 We'll be right back.

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00:59:50.000 Alex Jones on the GCM Radio Network.

00:59:53.000 Big Brother.

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01:00:12.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:17.000 Well, this whole WikiLeaks situation is very complex, but bottom line, it's the pretext to bring in censorship control of the web.

01:00:27.000 The whole cyber security system being built up, and John Young of Cryptome.org predicted this.

01:00:32.000 He's, again, the original WikiLeaker.

01:00:35.000 He's the guy that set up the website originally for them, but then he pulled out very quickly.

01:00:41.000 Now he said years ago, looks like a Soros type operation.

01:00:45.000 Now we have clear connections to that.

01:00:47.000 That's even mainstream media.

01:00:49.000 Now I want to, this is a short segment, long segment coming up, John, but I want to give you the floor.

01:00:53.000 You talk about this being foggy.

01:00:55.000 Bring clarity.

01:00:56.000 I mean, as somebody who probably knows more about this than anybody else, in the next four minutes, you've got the floor.

01:01:02.000 What do you want to say to folks about this?

01:01:04.000 What do you think is most important?

01:01:06.000 Well, follow the money is, of course, a cliché, but true here is that for two and a half years, Wikileaks was on the verge of bankruptcy.

01:01:14.000 They shut down for a few months and came back with bombshells, and suddenly, in the morning, the money started pouring in.

01:01:20.000 This is a well-known business model to hand out free cigarettes and then sell them after you get the addiction started.

01:01:28.000 And so it's also a well-known government technique to create a crisis claim that we can't survive without it and then demand more taxes and more budget increases.

01:01:40.000 And so just watch how this unfolds.

01:01:43.000 So I expect that there will be a continuing crisis raised by the WikiLeaks model and that from low-level secrecy documents we'll start getting dribbles of higher secrecy documentation.

01:01:53.000 It'll be dribbled out over time as they're now dripping out the secret stuff.

01:01:57.000 And so we'll get some more bombshells, because it's proven to be extremely effective.

01:02:01.000 Now you know that we've kept the war on terrorism going exactly the same way.

01:02:05.000 And so that these imaginary wars are very lucrative, particularly to governments and contractors who service governments, as well as individuals who seem to oppose governments.

01:02:14.000 So I'm down on anti-war people as well as pro-war people, because they seem to be working hand-in-hand.

01:02:21.000 So I think that's the lesson we've learned running our site, that there are all sorts of threats imputed to crypto.

01:02:28.000 None of that has come to pass.

01:02:30.000 It was just a shell game to make it seem like there's a threat, but there wasn't.

01:02:34.000 We've never been shut down except by one time by Microsoft, which then withdrew it.

01:02:40.000 WikiLeaks was shut down once by a court, but then that was withdrawn.

01:02:44.000 As far as I know, no officials have ever approached WikiLeaks with a threat.

01:02:47.000 Now, maybe they have and they've kept it quiet.

01:02:50.000 We always publicize when we're approached by officials to let them know that this is something of a show game.

01:02:56.000 So we'd like to see more attention paid to how often this occurs, not by WikiLeaks, but by others who are rushing to their support, but also rushing to oppose them.

01:03:06.000 There's money to be made in this.

01:03:08.000 I'm talking about the media.

01:03:09.000 I'm talking about the so-called outlaws, the so-called dissidents.

01:03:14.000 This is a big-time operation.

01:03:16.000 Everyone's getting in on this.

01:03:17.000 So I'm admiring this taking place.

01:03:19.000 It'll be kept going for quite a while.

01:03:21.000 Money's pouring in from all sides, to both sides of the fight.

01:03:25.000 And so this use of the word cyber war, you know, is exactly part of that, our info war.

01:03:31.000 Now, I'm not attacking your use of it, Alex, because you started this long ago, but right now, they're actually trying to escalate this into war-like crisis, because this brings out the money.

01:03:42.000 Yeah, when I talk about Infowar, I mean getting people talking, saying no to tyranny.

01:03:47.000 Their Infowar, they're talking about hacking and more the Pentagon version of that.

01:03:52.000 That's right.

01:03:53.000 And so that's what Cybercom is now doing.

01:03:56.000 They're going to milk cyber threats.

01:03:59.000 As much as they can over the next several years.

01:04:01.000 And that's why I think that the Bradley Manning thing was his thing.

01:04:04.000 That you know they teach this stuff at Fort Huachuca, Alex.

01:04:08.000 How people like Bradley Manning can do this and set up these sting operations.

01:04:12.000 And so he was trained there.

01:04:14.000 And so it smells like that to me.

01:04:19.000 And there'll be more coming though.

01:04:21.000 Because right now they're just testing the public's reaction with this low-level secrecy revelation.

01:04:26.000 But the other stuff will come.

01:04:28.000 All right, stay there.

01:04:29.000 We're going to come back in three minutes, John.

01:04:31.000 Long segment.

01:04:32.000 And I want to continue to drill down into WikiLeaks.

01:04:35.000 I mean, obviously, you've got all these Soros CIA connections, Cass Sunstein.

01:04:40.000 Sunstein writing two years ago, two and a half years ago, that they would infiltrate the web, pose as activists, create crisis, then bring in censorship legislation.

01:04:51.000 That's now happening.

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01:08:02.000 John Young of Cryptone.org, the original WikiLeaker.

01:08:19.000 That's the New York Observer headline.

01:08:22.000 He set up the site for them originally, but then immediately got suspicious of it.

01:08:30.000 And this is the pretext.

01:08:31.000 Just like they set up Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, they're now setting this up, and now they've got thousands of hackers attacking MasterCard, Visa, Sarah Palin for calling Assange un-American.

01:08:42.000 You know, I don't want to hate Sarah Palin, but give me a break.

01:08:47.000 She said that the South shouldn't have attacked North Korea, and that we've got to stand with North Korea.

01:08:52.000 She doesn't know that North Korea is the Stalinist state.

01:08:56.000 She's now come out and said that Assange is un-American.

01:09:00.000 Assange is Australian, honey. 0.92

01:09:03.000 But this is just getting crazier and crazier by the minute.

01:09:08.000 And now they've released cables dealing with DynCorp running little kidnapped boys.

01:09:16.000 Which you see in the news all the time, but there is some pretty bombshell stuff in here.

01:09:21.000 But could that be that the mainstream media is going through this and only covering what they want to go over?

01:09:26.000 Because so much of what I've read, and I've tried to go through a lot of it, and so much of what the media has picked up on, really reinforces the whole war on terror propaganda.

01:09:36.000 And anybody who knows the basics understands just because some document's secret doesn't mean it's true.

01:09:42.000 I mean, they have the Office of Special Plans saying they knew where the WMDs were and that was secret.

01:09:47.000 So some of the biggest propaganda you see is inside government because it's an echo chamber of brainwashing.

01:09:54.000 John Young of Cryptome.org, what's your view on what I just said?

01:09:57.000 Well, all classification is used to exaggerate the importance of information.

01:10:03.000 And so you shouldn't believe something because it's secret, top secret, whatever these are.

01:10:07.000 These are glamorizing terms.

01:10:10.000 Uh, and so that, uh, and by the people inside, so you can keep, you know this, and that's why they, the stuff leaks out.

01:10:17.000 Uh, is, is the really important information is not classified.

01:10:21.000 In fact, you can't even, you don't even know it exists.

01:10:24.000 So these known classifications are, are subterfuges to make it seem it's important stuff.

01:10:28.000 Secondly, these cables, these cables looked like they were written from reading the press.

01:10:33.000 Rather than the other way around.

01:10:35.000 And as we know, that's a common way that embassies gather information is to read the press and quote it as their own views.

01:10:41.000 Yeah, they've got to file reports, so they sit there with a Word document open, cutting clips out.

01:10:46.000 In fact, that's already been pointed out, that a lot of this stuff was excised right out of newspapers and not even changed.

01:10:52.000 So, it's a bunch of neocon propaganda.

01:10:56.000 That's right, but that's what the media, sorry to say, that's what most of the media does for a living. 0.61

01:11:03.000 Uh, either quote each other or, uh, most of them quote one or two other stories, uh, do almost no original reporting, uh, because that takes time and they've got a deadline to meet, they always say, and we have limited space, they always say, and so we've got to go with what everyone else is doing.

01:11:18.000 Well look, they get a government press release and they put that in the article and then the embassy takes the article that's a boiled down government press release and then puts it out as secret.

01:11:28.000 That's like a few months ago they made all the TSA workers top secret or secret clearances.

01:11:34.000 That way they can't protect themselves with a union.

01:11:37.000 That way they can be lied to about the terror threat.

01:11:40.000 That way they can feel like they're all James Bonds.

01:11:43.000 It's kind of like giving somebody the newspaper associate editor title in lieu of You hit it right on the head.

01:11:51.000 These are often ways to boost morale within an organization is to declare something secret and let you in on it.

01:11:57.000 By the way, they do this to presidents too.

01:11:59.000 They read them into the secrecy world and Shall I go on with this?

01:12:06.000 Yeah, continue.

01:12:07.000 Yeah, is that, you know, we have all these people outside government saying, we gotta do this, we gotta do that, and then they go inside and suddenly they don't say that anymore.

01:12:15.000 It's usually because they've been read into the secrecy pearl where they're under lifetime threat to never disclose it, and they suddenly shut up.

01:12:22.000 It's a one-way street, and you can never back out once you're in.

01:12:25.000 That's why there are no ex-spies.

01:12:26.000 Every spy has lifelong secrecy built into their blood.

01:12:30.000 And that's why some of them are out there bullshitting about what they're revealing, because they're under a lifetime constraint, and it's a serious constraint.

01:12:36.000 But mainly, is that it's a good way to make a living.

01:12:41.000 Being inside the secrecy world is an awfully good thing.

01:12:43.000 Of course, it started when the first church was set up, or the first kingdom was set up, so it's been around for a while.

01:12:48.000 Alex's secrecy is a narcotic against them.

01:12:53.000 And the biggest threat to the secret keepers are people who are outside that world.

01:12:57.000 Not the other secret keepers in other countries or other churches, but those who are outside who might blow the whistle on this.

01:13:05.000 Well, I have to agree with you on this because overall it allows the dominant media that's being supplanted by alternative media to

01:13:17.000 demonize the internet to begin to grow the surveillance grid towards the original incremental shutdown of the web all of this happens the web as we know it all of this happens with the backdrop of the FCC Commissioner saying freedom of speech is an aberration in the media we're going to shut it down government approved all of this comes out

01:13:39.000 with a backdrop of the cyber security legislation which is legalizes what's already is in in place that cyber command admits two years ago they've been launching quote attacks against themselves to test systems we know they hire most the hackers we know that Assange got in trouble many years ago and was kind of brought into that world But I think, like Lee Harvey Oswald, there's a good chance they're again setting him up.

01:14:02.000 Or this could be all part of a big pageant, kind of like Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers, where they tried to prosecute him, but then the case fell apart to give him street cred.

01:14:11.000 We know the naval intelligence operative, Woodward, was with Deep Throat.

01:14:16.000 Alexander Haig and Kissinger, Deep Throat we know is a composite, to burn Kissinger, I mean to burn Nixon.

01:14:25.000 So the whole way this is going, it's very, very clear, but then you've almost got to support Julian Assange because the charges against him are clearly false.

01:14:35.000 I mean, not wearing a condom and consensual sex by some feminist who writes articles about how to set men up in the legal system. 1.00

01:14:41.000 You can't make that up.

01:14:44.000 So you've got to support Assange because if they're able to nail him for no reason, then I can be arrested for the secret documents that I've put out that are real that they did not want people to get, like the MIAC and Homeland Security reports.

01:14:59.000 I happen to know that one of the people that leaked me stuff, they found out about other things he was doing and he got in a lot of trouble.

01:15:05.000 But, I mean, this is all just incredible stuff that's going on.

01:15:10.000 John, you just heard me rant about the point about Assange.

01:15:13.000 I mean, if we don't support him in free speech, even though this is all basically a setup, then doesn't it set the precedent for them to come throw John Young or Alex Jones in the Husqvar?

01:15:25.000 Well, it's a good point because, in fact, someone said on the mail list, hey, why has John Young not been charged with rape?

01:15:32.000 And I had to laugh at that because you see me compared to Assange, you know that charge would never stand up.

01:15:39.000 So that's it.

01:15:43.000 But my point is that don't be lulled by this rape charge in Sweden.

01:15:47.000 There's more coming along that line.

01:15:49.000 This is just the tip of what's coming out of Sweden. 0.92

01:15:52.000 And so, don't forget, we're on a bombshell campaign, Alex, and every day something unexpected happens.

01:15:58.000 So something in a series of unexpected things will happen on that strand while other things are happening on the strand.

01:16:03.000 So this is a multi-stranded operation.

01:16:05.000 And we're actually being teased with the easy stuff right now to set us up for more interesting stuff.

01:16:12.000 Well, we've seen that pattern.

01:16:13.000 It's building, building, as you said, and I gotta hand it to you, over a year ago, you laid it out with precision.

01:16:21.000 Let's go back, though, because you've been an insider in this entire world.

01:16:26.000 What are your WikiLeaks sources, or other hacker insiders, what are they telling you, John, that you can relay to us?

01:16:33.000 What bombshells can you give us?

01:16:36.000 Well, let me tell you who they are, and where you can find their names.

01:16:40.000 You can find them on Wikipedia.

01:16:43.000 Uh, look up the term Zapperpoke, and I'll spell that for you if you haven't heard of it. 0.98

01:16:47.000 That's a PKD term!

01:16:51.000 Uh, Cypher spelled with a Y. C-Y-P-H-P-U-N-K.

01:16:54.000 Cypherpunk, got it.

01:16:55.000 That's right.

01:16:56.000 Look there and scroll down the bottom and you'll see my name, Assange's name, several dozen names of people who all plotted all this, that are still very active in this.

01:17:07.000 And I've started pointing to this now.

01:17:09.000 Would you want to know what's behind WikiLeaks?

01:17:11.000 Go to this one site and you'll see the entire gang.

01:17:14.000 You'll see a whole bunch of links to other sources, and you'll see how long this has been going on and why you're not going to be able to contain it.

01:17:23.000 And so, that's the first thing I can tell you, is that this is public information that's been out there for years, but no one did the slightest amount of research on this.

01:17:31.000 And so that beyond this Wikipedia entry, I've got the archives of the Cypherpunks mail list that went on for several years where all these issues were thoroughly discussed.

01:17:40.000 This is very high-level technical material.

01:17:43.000 And these are not young people like Assange.

01:17:46.000 Some of these people are extremely wealthy, and they're not George Soros, who's clueless, technically.

01:17:50.000 And he thinks his billions makes him all-powerful, but it doesn't. 1.00

01:17:53.000 It makes him rather stupid, like the CIA is stupid because of their alleged power. 0.96

01:17:57.000 So these are people who are much craftier than that, but I'd recommend that people take a look at the Cypherpunks Wikipedia. 0.99

01:18:05.000 Okay, I'm looking at the Cypher... John, I'm looking at the Cypherpunks on Wikipedia.

01:18:09.000 Scroll up for me.

01:18:11.000 Scroll down to the bottom.

01:18:13.000 Okay, but I want to make sure I've got the right entry.

01:18:14.000 Go to the top for me real quick.

01:18:16.000 It's the Cypherpunk entry on Wikipedia.

01:18:22.000 And not to be confused with the PKD Cyberpunk.

01:18:26.000 Okay, let's scroll to the bottom now.

01:18:27.000 Go ahead.

01:18:28.000 Well, don't go down to the bottom.

01:18:29.000 You'll see there's a list.

01:18:31.000 A number of people who are involved in this.

01:18:34.000 Assange is there.

01:18:34.000 I'll be there.

01:18:36.000 A number of people there that you may not have heard of, but the founder of EFF, the founder of a number of other...

01:18:43.000 John Gilmore of Sun Microsystems.

01:18:46.000 So look down there.

01:18:47.000 There's some very notable people there.

01:18:49.000 And they got this started in the early 90s.

01:18:51.000 And I got on the board in 1994.

01:18:54.000 I was amazed that there was such a group like this.

01:18:57.000 Extremely intelligent, highly capable engineers, scientists, cryptographers.

01:19:01.000 highly political astute people Assange came on board in 1995, and there were several thousand people on this list.

01:19:08.000 It's an amazing... Okay, so it's a wide spectrum, but what's the overall political kernel to this?

01:19:15.000 Is this truly independent, or is this a government agency, or is this a combine?

01:19:21.000 Well, I'm going to try to give you an answer that may be a little hard to understand.

01:19:24.000 It is none of those.

01:19:26.000 The intent was to have nothing that can be attacked easily.

01:19:29.000 So it's not an organization.

01:19:31.000 It's not an entity.

01:19:32.000 It's a concept.

01:19:33.000 It's a aspiration.

01:19:35.000 It's a goal.

01:19:36.000 It is not anything you're going to be able to take down by the usual means.

01:19:40.000 That's the very purpose of it, is to not make it.

01:19:42.000 And that's why I say WikiLeaks will not be taken down.

01:19:44.000 It'll pop up some other way.

01:19:47.000 So you're saying it's almost like the internet is a bunch of computers connected to each other and can't be taken down.

01:19:54.000 This is just basically hackers and computer experts that built a system that anybody in the group can pump info out and nobody can stop it.

01:20:03.000 And that's why WikiLeaks people told the news yesterday, to take us down, you'll have to shut the web down.

01:20:09.000 That's right.

01:20:12.000 That's why it was set up.

01:20:13.000 It was set up as a spying machine, as I told you on your last show.

01:20:17.000 But that's being used for reverse spying.

01:20:19.000 The people who set it up, as you know, was the military, and they set it up to induce people to join up because it's a very good way to surveil an entire population around the world.

01:20:29.000 But now the people who are actually running it, that they hired to run it, are now reversing the panopticon.

01:20:35.000 Well, that's, I mean, that's what I've always said.

01:20:38.000 They use Google to spy on us, we use Google to spy on them with the massive group collective brain that they're not ever going to be able to stop because they might even have the intelligence, but they don't have the personnel to deploy operations.

01:20:51.000 But as long as we're an idea, a manifesto of human liberty, it's unstoppable.

01:20:56.000 Yep, that's right.

01:20:58.000 Because they'll have to stop themselves if they do, because they set this up in order to control things and they're gradually losing control.

01:21:06.000 So it's kind of like the Lord of the Rings analogy of Sauron.

01:21:10.000 He makes the ring, but the ring actually controls him, so somebody can get the ring and throw it into the crack of doom.

01:21:18.000 This is always the outcome of imperialism.

01:21:20.000 It eventually destroys itself.

01:21:24.000 Unbelievable.

01:21:25.000 And again, you've had piercing understanding of this because you were involved from the start, and you're telling, I mean, you're talking just like government people I've talked to, like Dr. Bob Bowman, former head of Star Wars.

01:21:38.000 He'll always say, well, I can give you what's open source, or they declassified this by mistake.

01:21:43.000 I can tell you this.

01:21:44.000 Now, go look at that.

01:21:46.000 And so you're saying, look at this list.

01:21:49.000 It's hidden in plain view.

01:21:50.000 This is a system, a door that swings both ways.

01:21:54.000 And what I'm getting from what you're saying, John, is that this is out of control.

01:22:00.000 Well, it is.

01:22:01.000 However, you know, it's smart people all around.

01:22:04.000 One of the things we always have to keep in mind is that every time you think you've got a clear understanding, someone else smarts you.

01:22:11.000 And so one of the things that I admire about the cypherpunks, they never got completely arrogant and said that we are going to run things.

01:22:17.000 A few tried and they got shot down by critics who were smarter than they were.

01:22:21.000 So what I'd like to caution is don't think that you're going to get this easily.

01:22:25.000 To say it's out of control, I'm saying you're going to take some work because you'll be set up repeatedly and entrapped.

01:22:30.000 And as with WikiLeaks, now they've got WikiLeaks redacting documents.

01:22:35.000 So that means the fix is in.

01:22:37.000 Because redaction is a control mechanism.

01:22:42.000 Well, that shows that they're coming to him and saying, don't give out our agents' names.

01:22:46.000 We'll go easier on you.

01:22:47.000 They're already being co-opted.

01:22:49.000 Yeah, because of the money.

01:22:51.000 The money is fabulous.

01:22:53.000 Because they were not making money being out there on their own.

01:22:56.000 So now they've raised millions by being on the inside.

01:22:59.000 So why not?

01:23:00.000 Well, what is your inside, Scoob?

01:23:02.000 If you were offered a billion dollar bribe, and you were 39 years old and had no other income, think about it.

01:23:13.000 It's called a government contract.

01:23:17.000 Well, what's your inside intel, or your gut, if you don't have the inside intel?

01:23:21.000 Is this a big theater with Assange?

01:23:24.000 Or are they burning him for the theater?

01:23:28.000 It's a theater operation.

01:23:30.000 Partly entertaining, partly lulling, partly testing systems.

01:23:36.000 Testing public reaction.

01:23:37.000 Are we going to get traction out of cyber threats or not?

01:23:41.000 Will this work or not?

01:23:41.000 Because so far, you know, they've not actually caused any harm.

01:23:45.000 Yeah, this is the beta testing.

01:23:46.000 Now they're going to start releasing even more.

01:23:48.000 That's right.

01:23:49.000 And then there'll be some lives lost, or something will happen.

01:23:53.000 Because, don't forget, these are cheap operations to run.

01:23:57.000 And so, somewhere, because this is still a fictional war, it's not a real war, it's a cyber war, which is all imaginary.

01:24:04.000 Well, let me ask you this.

01:24:05.000 When it becomes really harmful, we'll see, because the law will be ready.

01:24:09.000 What is your idea, John Young from Cryptome.org, the original Wikileaker?

01:24:13.000 What is your view, your idea, and I should have you back for a full hour soon, this is incredible.

01:24:19.000 I want liberty, I want freedom, I want my private property, I don't want to be a slave.

01:24:23.000 I would imagine that's your view.

01:24:25.000 I don't want to be part of an empire, I don't want to support all these wars in my name.

01:24:30.000 So that's my view.

01:24:31.000 I know I'm a good guy, but I know in ways I've been used as well, because this is such a complex world, And you can't be looking at everything at every time so nobody's perfect, but I know I'm good.

01:24:41.000 And I know I want to do good.

01:24:43.000 I mean, what should I be doing from your view, and what should you be doing to somehow stop this from being used to start curtailing our speech, and then the globalists, they'll still be able to do what they want.

01:24:57.000 Well, it's what I was told as a kid.

01:24:59.000 Trust no one but yourself, and warn people not to trust you.

01:25:03.000 So we say on Krypton, do not trust us.

01:25:06.000 To our ignorance we may deceive you or betray you.

01:25:08.000 Do not trust anyone who speaks with a voice of authority.

01:25:11.000 Do not trust anyone who sells you protection.

01:25:13.000 Do not trust anyone who sells you trust. 0.95

01:25:16.000 Because your own ignorance and finality will betray you.

01:25:19.000 And so that Wikileaks will betray Bradley Manning because they've got a million reasons to do so.

01:25:25.000 Well, it was a Wikileaker that did rat him out.

01:25:31.000 Well, we actually don't know what happened.

01:25:33.000 I'll just say, watching all this with considerable interest, it's still not clear what... All we have are various kinds of fairy tales in the media.

01:25:39.000 We haven't seen much evidence.

01:25:41.000 We've got a lot of talk of people who are well-known liars.

01:25:44.000 And most hackers are liars, because that's how they social engineer.

01:25:48.000 Most people on the internet lie. 0.95

01:25:50.000 I lie.

01:25:52.000 Are you hearing me?

01:25:53.000 I lie.

01:25:53.000 I'm lying to you right now.

01:25:55.000 Keep that in mind.

01:25:57.000 Everyone's got their agenda.

01:25:59.000 Well, when you say you lie, what, you've put out little disinfo involving where you live or your name?

01:26:05.000 I mean, you don't lie about the overall truth, sir.

01:26:08.000 I mean, are you saying you lie as like you take the address numbers off your apartment door?

01:26:15.000 No, I lie to ignorance, but I don't know any better.

01:26:19.000 And will not admit it.

01:26:20.000 I'll pretend that I've got access to truth by the tail, and I'm delivering it to you.

01:26:25.000 And so that's the reason I'm lying, because I don't know how else to convey what I'm doing in an honest way.

01:26:30.000 We need to work on that.

01:26:32.000 Everyone exaggerates.

01:26:34.000 You know what?

01:26:35.000 No one is perfect.

01:26:37.000 And I think the second guess yourself, I mean, I'm not delivering pure truth, so I'm lying to you.

01:26:44.000 I think it's if you consciously try to dead reckon as best you can, I think Veritas, the proof of Veritas is, on the balance, does 80 plus percent of what you talk about come true, or 90 percent?

01:26:59.000 Or does, you know, everything you do turn out to be wrong?

01:27:03.000 And I watch mainstream media, they're lying on purpose.

01:27:06.000 We're here trying to tell the truth, we get some things wrong.

01:27:09.000 But, I mean, I know there's good people, John.

01:27:11.000 I mean, my whole issue is, I think part of getting into this whole world that you've been part of so long, is that you're so in with all these other snakes, then it starts blinding you to the fact that there are a lot of good people.

01:27:24.000 Well, and it turns out that one of the best things is to get out of your bunker and meet all these other people.

01:27:31.000 I'll say the best thing about Krypton is how many people I've met, how many different views I would never have known had I not opened myself up to other people's viewpoints.

01:27:38.000 So when I say I lie, it's only counter to lying is to have discourse with other people and stop preaching at them.

01:27:44.000 And listen to them closely.

01:27:46.000 Let them attack you.

01:27:48.000 And don't be afraid of that because it's the only way we're going to get out of the, you know, we're taught by education to mislead people in our own.

01:27:56.000 Yeah, we've got to stop being passive.

01:27:58.000 We've got to stop being afraid.

01:28:00.000 We've got to stop conforming.

01:28:01.000 That's right.

01:28:02.000 Well, we've got to be individuals.

01:28:03.000 I mean, that is the biggest solution overall.

01:28:05.000 And the internet is great for that.

01:28:06.000 Pardon me?

01:28:07.000 And the internet is great for that.

01:28:09.000 And we've got to be willing to go through pain, folks.

01:28:11.000 That's right.

01:28:12.000 Break your bone bones. 0.57

01:28:14.000 Well, the best things in life come from breaking your own bones.

01:28:17.000 I certainly understand what you're saying there.

01:28:19.000 No, it's true.

01:28:19.000 It'd be terrible going to a bar and saying that to someone who will accommodate you.

01:28:24.000 Well, I'm not into that anymore, but let him try it to accommodate.

01:28:28.000 I'll accommodate him.

01:28:30.000 Alex, I grew up in Odessa, where bones are broken every night for fun.

01:28:34.000 Same here.

01:28:34.000 I grew up, same thing, Texas.

01:28:36.000 Up where I came from in Dallas, it was people going to the hospital every weekend.

01:28:40.000 I love living in Austin.

01:28:41.000 It's not like that.

01:28:45.000 It was crazy.

01:28:49.000 No, believe me, I've certainly moved away from it as well.

01:28:51.000 I've probably got a lot fewer brain cells, and now I'm a little bit older, and it hurts where I got a compound fracture.

01:28:56.000 It hurts where I broke my hand over and over again.

01:28:58.000 Now, I want to get you back very, very soon, but in 30 seconds, John Young, you're saying Big Bombshell's coming soon?

01:29:05.000 Yep.

01:29:08.000 Because that's a pattern.

01:29:11.000 Every one that WikiLeaks has put out has been followed by another one somewhat more shocking.

01:29:18.000 And this is, as you know, this is a well-known technique boxers use. 0.99

01:29:21.000 They slowly build up and just start overwhelming you with unexpected greater attacks.

01:29:27.000 Are there any other big tidbits that you can give us today?

01:29:30.000 Yeah, I think they're going to come out with some bank stuff.

01:29:32.000 I think they're going to come out... Tell you what, stay there.

01:29:34.000 I've got another guest coming up.

01:29:35.000 We're going to push him back five minutes.

01:29:36.000 I want you to talk about what you see coming up next.

01:29:38.000 Then we're going to get our next guest on.

01:29:39.000 We'll hold him five minutes to the next hour.

01:29:41.000 We'll get Lord Monkton on right after.

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01:33:29.000 Finishing up with the original Wikileaker, the cypher punk insider, We've got about four minutes left with you, John, and obviously we appreciate you coming on.

01:33:44.000 I've seen invaluable information come out that we know that Microsoft and Yahoo don't like, how they just spy and steal everything, basically, and sell it to the government.

01:33:53.000 That was in Wired Magazine now last week.

01:33:55.000 You know, the fact is we live in a system where the law is being broken by the government every millisecond, but you've been covering this stuff for decades and it's invaluable.

01:34:04.000 In closing, what are your sources telling you is coming out next?

01:34:07.000 What do you see happening?

01:34:08.000 Any other key tidbits?

01:34:10.000 Yep.

01:34:10.000 Here it is.

01:34:11.000 Here's a list.

01:34:12.000 And it may offend some of your listeners, but here are the sacred cows that are going to come out.

01:34:17.000 Files on weapons of mass destruction, nuclear, biological, chemical, and radiological.

01:34:23.000 files on global WMT research laboratories and the status of research docs.

01:34:27.000 War plans of all nations, for and against one another. 0.63

01:34:30.000 Reports and training literature on black prisons and torture chambers held by and shared among the world's military and spy agencies.

01:34:40.000 Files of clandestine spy agencies and their operatives.

01:34:42.000 Files on human rights abuses.

01:34:45.000 For example, the secret Red Cross reports on the world's prisons.

01:34:49.000 Files of billionaire political meddlers.

01:34:52.000 Files of the major banks and their attorneys, and most crucially, files of all the nation's tax agencies.

01:34:58.000 The one key thing that keeps governments going.

01:35:02.000 Unbelievable.

01:35:03.000 And here's one that I think is probably maybe the model for all of us.

01:35:08.000 What I call the crown jewels of secret information of the 2,000 year history of the Vatican's meddling in the world's governments and working with the most evil empire the earth has ever seen.

01:35:21.000 Second to that is the Islamic version of those files.

01:35:27.000 Wow, now let's go back to this Vatican situation.

01:35:30.000 We know the Vatican was involved, that's Open Intelligence, founding the Euro.

01:35:35.000 We know it loves to hide itself.

01:35:37.000 We know that now Lord Blackheath and others are talking about a Foundation X, richer than any government, you know, on Earth.

01:35:44.000 I mean, more and more stuff that was so secretive that we talk about 15, 20 years ago, 30, 40 years ago, it's now coming out.

01:35:52.000 And it all points towards an overall attack on the Internet, using the Internet to cause such havoc that it rushes the world towards some type of collapse.

01:36:04.000 I mean...

01:36:05.000 But briefly, go back to the Vatican here.

01:36:07.000 That's incredible.

01:36:09.000 Specifically, from insiders at WikiLeaks, and you're an insider, you're saying that you've been told Vatican dirt's about to come out.

01:36:19.000 Well, I'm saying that all the world's spy agencies are based on Vatican techniques and skills. 0.92

01:36:25.000 They are the keeper of secrets beyond all others.

01:36:28.000 They are the spy beyond all others.

01:36:30.000 That's what Hitler said.

01:36:31.000 He said it was the Jesuit model.

01:36:34.000 There was stuff before the Jesuits, because it's older than that.

01:36:36.000 And so the Jesuits is almost a popular version of what they actually do.

01:36:41.000 So, what they do and have in their files is what we want to see, not these popular versions that we see in novels and so forth, is that we need to see the files, i.e.

01:36:48.000 I'm a believer in documents, not in fairy tales. 0.94

01:36:52.000 That's why we need to see the files of the National Tax Agencies, not their PR shit. 0.98

01:36:58.000 And so, um... 0.97

01:36:59.000 And taxation derives from the Vatican, or Vatican-like operations.

01:37:04.000 It's how you extort money from the people, by scaring them and offering salvation.

01:37:11.000 And so, that's what's coming.

01:37:14.000 Okay, in order, in closing, in the order you went is when this is going to be coming out, or is it a mix and match?

01:37:24.000 Well, according to WikiLeaks, the next one will be a They claim they got a hard disk from a major bank.

01:37:30.000 Some people are saying it's Bank of America.

01:37:32.000 Now, there are a lot of these hard disks floating around because banks use these as sting operations, as does FBI.

01:37:38.000 So, WikiLeaks is not sure they got a real one, but they say they've got one.

01:37:41.000 And they've been trying to authenticate it.

01:37:43.000 And since banks are a popular target now, that's probably something like that will come out.

01:37:48.000 But don't forget, they always hit us with a bombshell we didn't expect, so it could be a ploy.

01:37:54.000 Uh, it's possible that something will come out of, say, like the Clinton Foundation, or something, uh, you know.

01:38:00.000 They're very astute at picking something that will be popular.

01:38:02.000 Alright.

01:38:04.000 That's why they play the anti-American card. 0.79

01:38:06.000 Because that's very popular outside the U.S.

01:38:10.000 John, I want to get you on the Sunday show to do a full hour if we can.

01:38:14.000 This is a big syndicated show.

01:38:17.000 I've had to delay you twice.

01:38:18.000 I don't care if you use mild cuss words, but we have to delay those out.

01:38:25.000 I want to thank you for coming on.

01:38:26.000 Hopefully I can get you on the Sunday show and have you on, and you can just use the acronym, you know, Baloney. 1.00

01:38:35.000 But thank you so much coming on from Cryptome.org.

01:38:38.000 Amazing information there on the site, and I look forward to talking to you in the near future.

01:38:44.000 I'm going to have my producer call you in about five minutes to see if I can get you on for a full hour coming up Sunday to really go over the bombshells you just dropped on us.

01:38:53.000 Thank you.

01:38:53.000 Take care, Alex.

01:38:54.000 All right, there he goes, ladies and gentlemen.

01:38:56.000 Whew, wow, that'll make your head hurt.

01:39:00.000 Because it makes you think.

01:39:03.000 It's so many things going on, so many things happening.

01:39:08.000 For the next 25 minutes, we're going to have Donald Light.

01:39:12.000 He is a low-key visiting professor at Stanford University and professor of comparative health care at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey.

01:39:22.000 He is an economic and organizational sociologist who compares health care systems and pharmacological policy.

01:39:28.000 As a founding fellow of the Center for Bioethics, He has become concerned about how few new drugs are clinically much better than existing ones, yet causing substantial risk to patients.

01:39:40.000 Prescription drugs are the fourth leading cause of death, from the numbers I've seen it can be the leading cause, and result in 2.2 million hospitalizations a year.

01:39:48.000 Professor Light is a co-author and editor of the Risk of Prescription Drugs 2010.

01:39:54.000 His research has appeared in leading medical and social science journals, and I've got The book right here, The Risk of Prescription Drugs, Columbia University Press, Social Science Research Council Series on Privatization of Risk, and it's got the boil down here, how do prescription drugs become a leading cause of death?

01:40:16.000 The Risk of Prescription Drugs, and the numbers I've seen in the news are 300,000 drug-related deaths.

01:40:22.000 That's almost rivaling heart attack, cancer, and automobile accident.

01:40:27.000 So is it the 4th, the 3rd, the 2nd, the 1st?

01:40:31.000 It doesn't matter.

01:40:32.000 I mean, you hear these drug ads, and, oh, having trouble, needing to urinate a lot?

01:40:37.000 Well, take this.

01:40:37.000 Now, it'll give you brain cancer, have a heart attack, you may go insane, make you suicidal, blood clots, but it doesn't matter.

01:40:42.000 Call your physician if you think this is right for you, because you're a doctor.

01:40:46.000 It's incredible.

01:40:47.000 So we've got him on with us for the next 25 minutes, and we'll certainly have him back up again for a full hour in the future.

01:40:53.000 Professor Light, thank you for joining us.

01:40:56.000 Well, it's a pleasure, and I've been reading about all the great things that you've been doing, these wonderful documentary films and interviews.

01:41:03.000 It's very impressive.

01:41:04.000 I'm really delighted to be talking with you.

01:41:07.000 Well, I'm delighted to have you on with us, sir. 0.62

01:41:09.000 We've got limited time, so I'm going to try to sit back and shut up.

01:41:12.000 If you were talking to an auditorium at a city council and you had 25 minutes to talk to them, what would you say?

01:41:22.000 Well, you've summarized the main finding that we had in this little book that's only the size of a 5x7 photograph and only 160 pages long.

01:41:32.000 It was written for general lay audiences with short, easy-to-read chapters, and it describes, as you say, that most of the new drugs are little better than existing drugs.

01:41:46.000 I have a table here.

01:41:48.000 Out of the 980 drugs that were approved in the last decade, only 40 were regarded as important therapeutic advances.

01:41:58.000 So that's about 4%.

01:42:00.000 And another 106 were judged clinically to be superior to existing drugs.

01:42:08.000 And all the rest were We're judged to add little value.

01:42:13.000 Now, why is that?

01:42:14.000 Well, that's because the FDA approves drugs against placebo, placebo meaning a pill that is inert.

01:42:23.000 And you don't know whether you're taking the active new drug or the placebo, and that's what is done in a clinical trial.

01:42:31.000 And then you see whether the people who took the active drug got better against some criterion that the trial is for.

01:42:40.000 But that means that when the FDA approves new drugs as more effective and better and drug companies talk about as being more effective, what they really mean is more effective than an inert pill.

01:42:52.000 In fact, the FDA is prohibited from ruling whether new drugs are better than existing drugs.

01:42:59.000 And on the safety side, they approve them as safe with very little evidence about their safety because the trials are designed to minimize evidence of safety.

01:43:09.000 And so the actual evidence they have about whether these drugs are safe for you is pretty minimal.

01:43:19.000 Well, an example I would use, Professor, is I know how to read the insert of a drug.

01:43:23.000 I mean, I'm not a rocket scientist, but I can read it.

01:43:25.000 And Gardasil, Vaccines, they admitted in the trials, killed quite a few people.

01:43:33.000 It caused autoimmune responses.

01:43:35.000 And then of the hundreds of different papillomaviruses, they admitted it only covered six or so, and then it said, this may not even stop you from getting cervical cancer.

01:43:46.000 And then the literature went on to admit that it's only killing a few thousand people a year, and that's normally treatable.

01:43:53.000 And so the benefits Are far outweighed by the dangers, but Merck just comes into Texas, gives a bunch of money to the politicians, and they come out and say, hey little girls, and now they're saying little boys, you gotta take this so you don't get this cancer virus.

01:44:10.000 I mean, right there, it's just incredible.

01:44:13.000 Right.

01:44:15.000 I was told that doing the interview with you was like quickly going 60 miles an hour.

01:44:19.000 So you're absolutely right.

01:44:21.000 I'm not an expert on Gardasil, but you've put your finger on the new blockbuster era.

01:44:28.000 So the companies have figured out that they can make vaccines or vaccine-like things that they will call vaccines because the definition is being broadened.

01:44:38.000 for a wide number of conditions, and about every half year we will see a new vaccine.

01:44:43.000 Well, for the last 25 years, you didn't see a new vaccine very often, and the prices will be about $70 a dose, and often you need two or three of those.

01:44:55.000 It will be like $200, $300, $400.

01:44:56.000 And you're right that the vaccine advocates and the companies sort of market to the public officials in the departments of public health or the centers for disease control, simply to get these things on a list.

01:45:14.000 So it's easy, cheap marketing, then it becomes part of the requirements for what children should take, and you're right that it's a real worry.

01:45:27.000 Well, it just builds it in that the business model of these companies is to come lobby government to push something on you.

01:45:35.000 But your book, I mean, it goes over the real evidence of how much harm these drugs are causing.

01:45:40.000 And more and more of medicine is just, here, take these drugs.

01:45:48.000 So continue going through the serious risk that we're looking at here.

01:45:52.000 Okay, well, one thing I think is worth saying is that drug companies are amongst our most enlightened and sophisticated corporations, and they do a lot of serious good science.

01:46:04.000 And I live in an area where there are a lot of people who work for drug companies, and there are lots of wonderful employees at those companies.

01:46:12.000 But what I find disturbing are what must be executive decisions that are being made You know, many layers above by the people pulling down several million dollars a year in salaries and bonuses.

01:46:27.000 Above all, the good staff people at drug companies.

01:46:31.000 And one of the main things is that they repeatedly are heavily advertising to people to take drugs for things that they were not tested for or approved.

01:46:45.000 In the last two years, Alex, Drug companies have paid six billion dollars in fines from prosecutions by attorney generals.

01:46:57.000 For illegal marketing and getting people to take drugs for reasons that are not approved.

01:47:04.000 This includes Johnson & Johnson, Pfizer is the biggest, $2.3 billion in fines.

01:47:10.000 The last two years, Eli Lilly, $1.4 billion.

01:47:14.000 GlaxoSmithKline, $400 million.

01:47:17.000 Sanofi, Merck, Eli Lilly.

01:47:20.000 Every one you've ever heard of.

01:47:21.000 Abbott and then ones that you probably haven't heard of.

01:47:23.000 I mean, you know, listeners may not have heard of.

01:47:26.000 All aggressively promoting to your doctors and to all of us through advertising, which by the way, you know, we're one of only two countries in the world that allow direct-to-consumer advertising because the whole idea behind prescription drugs was for 50 years that it was your doctor who decided whether you

01:47:52.000 Needed a certain drug and it was the doctors whose job it was to stay on top of developments.

01:47:58.000 Now with this direct advertising, they're getting patients to go and tell the doctor what to prescribe.

01:48:06.000 And often for a condition that's not been tested for.

01:48:11.000 Well, I mean, it just gets crazier and crazier by the minute.

01:48:15.000 Yeah.

01:48:16.000 So, I mean, one simple thing that we recommend at the end of this little book, which is only $15, I think it's the cheapest book that Columbia Press has ever published, and it was... I make no money on it.

01:48:30.000 It was funded by the MacArthur Foundation in Chicago.

01:48:35.000 And they just paid us fees to do the writing that we did, so we get no royalties.

01:48:41.000 But I just think people need to read this little book and learn about this issue and talk about it and protect themselves.

01:48:48.000 So one thing that's recommended in the last short chapter is that whenever a drug is prescribed for an unapproved use, Which is called off-label, but I think unapproved use really puts it on the, you know, on the table clearly.

01:49:02.000 Is assigned consent.

01:49:05.000 So your doctor should hand you a piece of paper, might have one sentence saying, I understand that this prescription is being given to me by my doctor.

01:49:14.000 for a condition for which it has not been approved.

01:49:16.000 And I agree.

01:49:18.000 I mean, you know, I think if most of your listeners were handed a piece of paper like that, they'd say, well, doctor, what's going on?

01:49:25.000 Why are you doing this?

01:49:26.000 Well, I mean, we see doctors and clinics that aren't even checking to see what other medications you're on.

01:49:33.000 And I see even young people now with big, you know, tables just full of different pills they're taking.

01:49:39.000 I mean, and then all these weird drug interactions.

01:49:39.000 Right.

01:49:42.000 What are the numbers?

01:49:43.000 What do we know?

01:49:44.000 I mean, how many people a year die from these drug interactions?

01:49:48.000 Well, the total estimated deaths from hospitalized patients is 111,000.

01:49:54.000 But as you said so well at the beginning, it was a wonderful introduction you gave to this talk.

01:50:01.000 We don't know how many more because that doesn't count all the people who die at home, at work, driving, walking, and so forth.

01:50:11.000 So it's a very limited measure that we have.

01:50:14.000 And there's one of the things that really appalls me is here is roughly the fourth, or as you say it might be the third, leading cause of death.

01:50:24.000 And there are relatively few efforts to track and detail studies.

01:50:30.000 So when you ask, well, how many people die from drug interactions from what's called polypharmacy taking?

01:50:37.000 You know, two, three, four, five drugs.

01:50:40.000 I can't think of a study that actually does more than just, you know, guess what that is.

01:50:45.000 So, we only know about the surface of the tip of the iceberg.

01:50:48.000 Stay there, professor.

01:50:49.000 We're going to come back and continue to discuss this on the other side.

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01:55:01.000 You know, I'm going to get you back because I've just read the summary of it and I've read articles about your great book.

01:55:07.000 But I want to get you back in the future after I've read the whole book to really go through it when I'm more educated.

01:55:12.000 But, I mean, it just seems that the government freaks out about a few people dying from terrorism, but more people die from bee stings every year.

01:55:21.000 But then meanwhile, you've got one of the major causes of death.

01:55:25.000 And I see wilder and wilder ads for drugs where it sounds like the side effects are a thousand times worse than what it's treating.

01:55:32.000 So I'm glad your book is really trying to bring some light to this, Professor Light.

01:55:37.000 And tell folks where they can get the book.

01:55:40.000 Oh, well, the best place is Amazon, and you just put in the risks of prescription drugs.

01:55:46.000 My website is pharmamyths.net.

01:55:50.000 That's P-H-A-R-M-A myths, M-Y-T-H-S dot net. 1.00

01:55:55.000 Because I've also been looking into the claims by companies that it costs an average of $1.3 billion in research and development to bring a new drug to market.

01:56:05.000 Extremely expensive.

01:56:07.000 And when you break down their numbers, and all the numbers are created by economists who are retained by the companies, it comes out to be a small fraction of that because they use all kinds of inflators to puff the number up.

01:56:22.000 Wow, I look forward to having you back on for a full hour in the near future.

01:56:26.000 Professor, give us that website one more time.

01:56:28.000 It's pharmamyths.com.

01:56:34.000 Net, and it's the risk of prescription drugs.

01:56:37.000 And I thought I'd give you one example if we have a minute of a misleading ad.

01:56:41.000 So this is an ad for Lipitor about a few days ago.

01:56:45.000 It starts with saying, did you know more than 80% of people who have heart attacks have high cholesterol?

01:56:51.000 Now, how is that misleading?

01:56:52.000 Well, because although it's true, 90% of the people who have cholesterol don't have heart attacks.

01:57:00.000 It's a different denominator.

01:57:01.000 If you start with all the people with heart attacks, Most of them have ten fingers and 80% of them have cholesterol.

01:57:08.000 But if you start with the millions and millions of people with high cholesterol, very few of them have heart attacks and the evidence is quite clear now that taking statins to lower cholesterol in people who do not already have a risk of heart disease Well, now they want to put statins in the water.

01:57:31.000 Have you seen those announcements?

01:57:33.000 I mean, is Big Pharma just going to take over our total, you know...

01:57:40.000 Economy?

01:57:41.000 I mean, it's like GMO, closely allied with Big Pharma, basically the same group.

01:57:46.000 Oh, we don't want you to know this is a GMO salmon that's part insect or part eel.

01:57:51.000 Oh, we don't want you to know this goat's part insect. 0.98

01:57:54.000 Oh, we don't want you to know that corn in studies caused all sorts of birth defects.

01:57:59.000 I mean, just on and on and on.

01:58:01.000 Professor, great having you on.

01:58:03.000 I look forward to talking to you again in the future when I've had a chance to read the book.

01:58:06.000 See you next week.

01:58:07.000 You bet.

01:58:07.000 All right.

01:58:07.000 Take care.

01:58:09.000 All right, buddy.

01:58:09.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

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02:00:28.000 We punched up Fox News Live.

02:00:31.000 And it makes no sense.

02:00:32.000 We've been watching it for a while.

02:00:33.000 Is this police burning down a California bomb home?

02:00:38.000 I mean, what does that mean?

02:00:40.000 I mean, if they think there's a bomb in there, why would they burn it down instead of going in and defusing it or using a robot?

02:00:48.000 Authorities have set fire to a suburban San Diego home, they say, was so packed with homemade explosives, they had no choice but to burn it to the ground.

02:01:00.000 Okay.

02:01:01.000 Who knows if that's even true now?

02:01:02.000 I mean, they're burning the evidence down?

02:01:04.000 Authorities are using Blow that up for me.

02:01:08.000 I can't read it across the room, thanks.

02:01:10.000 Again, I'm reading it off a telescreen across the room here.

02:01:12.000 Authorities are using helicopters and air pollution sensors to monitor the controlled burn for potential health problems.

02:01:21.000 The house was rented by an out-of-work software consultant who allegedly assembled an astonishing quantity of bomb-making material that included chemicals used by Middle Eastern suicide bombers. 0.91

02:01:32.000 Investigators are still trying to understand his motivation.

02:01:35.000 Authorities say the fire should be over within a few hours.

02:01:38.000 Well, obviously it's a type of explosive they believe isn't going to blow up, but I mean, will they show up at my house?

02:01:44.000 That I guess I might have a bag of black cats and smoke bombs left over from 4th of July.

02:01:50.000 I mean, are they going to, uh, This is crazy.

02:01:57.000 I mean, are they going to blow my house up and say, oh, there were bombs in there.

02:02:02.000 We had to burn it up, though.

02:02:03.000 You know, they did that to get rid of the witnesses that the government had staged the Madrid bombings six, seven years ago.

02:02:10.000 And it came out that that was staged in the Spanish news.

02:02:13.000 And so they just went and blew up the entire apartment building that the terrorists were supposedly in.

02:02:18.000 That's how you get rid of your witnesses.

02:02:19.000 You just blow the whole building up.

02:02:21.000 That is very suspicious.

02:02:23.000 What you're seeing right there.

02:02:24.000 How are they going to prosecute this supposed person in court?

02:02:27.000 I mean, how do we know anything?

02:02:28.000 I don't believe a word they say.

02:02:31.000 Especially the San Diego PD.

02:02:33.000 It might be true.

02:02:33.000 Who knows?

02:02:35.000 It's just insane.

02:02:36.000 Eight police officers seriously injured in battle with a mob of anarchists, probably their own officers, outside Parliament as the MPs vote through the rise in student fees.

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02:08:18.000 Well, the headlines are everywhere.

02:08:20.000 Record cold temperatures in Cancun for the Global Government Summit that Lord Chris Vermonten is attending and covering.

02:08:28.000 And we're going to be going to him in just a moment from the Yucatan Peninsula in Cancun.

02:08:34.000 Southern Mexico.

02:08:36.000 Here's this week news reporting irony alert the unusually chilly global warming summit in Cancun the reporting record low temperatures areas of Europe are reporting the coldest temperatures since the 1560s the 1650s 1670s Mrs. Monckton, the wife of the third Viscount of Brinchley and Monckton, she can't get out of the house in Scotland for 14 days because they're snowed in.

02:09:01.000 I've talked to Paul Watson, who's over in England.

02:09:04.000 It's just the coldest in his lifetime he's seen.

02:09:06.000 Now that doesn't mean the earth is necessarily getting colder.

02:09:10.000 Every time there's a hot summer, they say it means we're getting warmer.

02:09:12.000 You have to go through long periods, you have to study it.

02:09:16.000 There's always microclimates that are having extreme weather, but it does illustrate that we know in the last 15 years the warming trend stopped and is now going down.

02:09:26.000 But we hope for a warming trend.

02:09:28.000 We hope for more carbon dioxide.

02:09:30.000 That's the science.

02:09:31.000 We've gone over that with Lord Monckton at Nauseam.

02:09:34.000 His website, scienceandpublicpolicy.org, really is the preeminent site to really get the true research.

02:09:42.000 But instead of going over just the background, I want to talk about what they're politically trying.

02:09:47.000 They've shifted from saying the sky is falling warming to Overpopulation, Ted Turner saying get rid of people, they've got TV ads running showing children being blown up by explosives if they don't agree to cut their carbon footprint.

02:10:01.000 They're calling for eco-fascism and calling it fascism and saying green fascism is good, not about the environment.

02:10:08.000 None of us who have children want a bad environment.

02:10:11.000 It's about power grabs and collectivism, and Lord Monckton, to give us a rundown for the next 50 minutes, graciously just got to his hotel out of a storm there with the police escorting him.

02:10:22.000 It sounded like a tornado or a tempest was going on around him.

02:10:27.000 He's now gotten to cover, and we're going to talk to him via cell phone from Cancun, Mexico, with so much happening as a global freeze hits much of the planet.

02:10:39.000 Good to have you, sir.

02:10:41.000 Well it's very good to be with you Alex.

02:10:42.000 I'm now actually in the security centre at the Cancun Conference Centre.

02:10:47.000 I've finally managed to get in and there's almost quite a wind blowing outside.

02:10:52.000 It's just a terrain which is colder than it's been since we've been here.

02:10:57.000 In fact now five days they have had Colder temperatures here in Cancun than have ever been recorded at this time of year since records began.

02:11:07.000 So this is very exceptional.

02:11:09.000 You've heard about my lovely wife, Lady Monckton.

02:11:11.000 She has snowed up at home.

02:11:13.000 The Central England temperature record showing the coldest First week of December since 1659.

02:11:20.000 And you're quite right, Alex, to put in that cautionary note about how this doesn't mean there's no such thing as global warming or we can't be having an effect on the planet.

02:11:30.000 What it does mean, and again you're quite right about this, is that the rate at which this global warming is supposed to be occurring simply isn't happening.

02:11:39.000 And in fact, proof of the matter is that in the last Fifteen years, as Professor Phil Jones of the University of East Anglia was recently compelled to admit when I got BBC to ask him a question about it, there has been no statistically significant global warming at all.

02:11:58.000 Fifteen years.

02:11:59.000 This is beginning to be long a period to be altogether ignored as simply a blip.

02:12:06.000 It is beginning very much to look as though, exactly as the likes of me have been saying all along, yes, we may get some warming, but it will be very slow, and it will be very harmless.

02:12:17.000 It's not going to be a problem.

02:12:18.000 However, the delegates here in Cancun are exactly the usual kind of robotic crowd of enviro-zombies that you would expect to find at these things, and they are going around saying the planet's doomed, as you have rightly pointed out,

02:12:34.000 Ted Turner is beginning to say what we've got to have is a global one-child policy and that dreadful movie made in the UK by one of these taxpayer-funded pressure groups showing children being blown up and their blood spattered over their classmates because they had not been willing to agree with their teacher that global warming was the worstest problem ever.

02:12:59.000 That is the kind of hysteria that you always get when those who have been peddling a lie realize that they're not going to be able to get away with it for very much longer.

02:13:10.000 And, are you still there?

02:13:13.000 And one delegate recently said to one of my colleagues here, he said, oh yes, of course my colleague up there on the rostrum is talking about how terrible global warming is privately there, he said, we know perfectly well that it isn't.

02:13:27.000 But our government has told us to say this because it sees an advantage to itself against its taxpayers and against the people of the world in pretending that there is a problem.

02:13:36.000 So there is a growing willingness on the part of some delegates here to admit that they personally don't believe a word of this nonsense.

02:13:44.000 Of course you have all the extremist groups here, the Marxists, the Greenies, and the two are virtually indistinguishable in the policies they advocate these days. 0.58

02:13:51.000 They are all here in profusion.

02:13:54.000 Every sort of weird organization.

02:13:56.000 There are gender-centered women against climate change.

02:14:00.000 There are people dressed up as polar bears. 1.00

02:14:03.000 All this kind of stupidity goes on. 1.00

02:14:06.000 But behind it all, Alex, I think there is a considerable change in tone. 0.98

02:14:13.000 What is beginning to happen is, compared with the triumphalism of Copenhagen and Poznan and Bali, the previous three years, the annual jamborees at taxpayers' expense all around the world at exotic locations, what we're getting here is a much more sullen, sober, even somber mood.

02:14:34.000 People here are beginning to realize they aren't going to get away with this for very much longer.

02:14:40.000 And so, contrary to the reports that you have seen in the newspapers about how nothing very much is going to happen here in Cancun, the bureaucracy which is trying desperately to turn itself into a world government, having failed to do so when the World Government Treaty at Copenhagen was simply thrown out,

02:15:01.000 Now they're trying to do it by stealth, with a series of decisions at this conference, which the chairman of the conference, I've seen her note on this, thinks they're going to get away with, creating several hundred new bureaucracies, a hundred billion dollars per year from now and forever, from the wealthier nations of the West to be paid to the new world government.

02:15:25.000 And this will go up to 1.5% of GDP if one of the options on the paper is adopted, which it may well be, giving this new world government a permanent revenue which will permanently grow as GDP grows.

02:15:38.000 So we're looking at a really ambitious power grab by the nasty people who are behind this scare.

02:15:44.000 And I'm quite worried they may yet Get away with it.

02:15:47.000 I think they are going to get away with most of what I've just described here.

02:15:51.000 And once they've got it, it'll be like the EU.

02:15:53.000 Give them the money and give them the power, and then they become unstoppable and they'll get more money and more power until they run anything.

02:16:00.000 And, of course...

02:16:02.000 Not one of these people is elected by us, the peoples of the world.

02:16:07.000 It is all a dictatorship, which is gradually taking power from democratic nations, and from the leaders and elected representatives of those nations, and putting it into the hands of faceless bureaucrats, who we cannot elect, cannot question, cannot hold to account, cannot remove, and cannot reflect.

02:16:25.000 Okay, now going back in past years, they were arrogant, they were celebratory, they would have these huge parties, they were the saviors of the earth.

02:16:35.000 Now, they're becoming a global laughing stock, but as you said, they're now burrowing down, realizing their time is short, everything that's invested in this, And they're trying to get it through.

02:16:48.000 But last year, you were instrumental in helping distribute the Danish text, in analyzing it.

02:16:54.000 The third world learned that it would basically double the amount of taxes.

02:17:00.000 that they had to pay versus the West.

02:17:02.000 It wasn't the freebie giveaway, that it was a death sentence to over a billion people cutting their energy.

02:17:09.000 It's now admitted this is about shutting down industrialized societies.

02:17:13.000 So, how are they trying to ram this through?

02:17:17.000 What is in the different texts you've been able to see?

02:17:20.000 Are there any secret treaties, like last time?

02:17:24.000 Give us the intel, Lord Monckton.

02:17:26.000 Uh, what they've done this time is they've done what one of the senior officials here, who also doesn't believe a word of this, as I say, there's a growing kind of rift in the loop now.

02:17:35.000 You can see more and more people getting ready to jump ship as they see it going glug glug glug down beneath the waves.

02:17:42.000 But one of them said, he said, what they're going for is an approach called Transparent impenetrability.

02:17:48.000 And what this means is that everything I've just described to you, this extra money and the extra bureaucracies, they're all listed, they're all specified in the documents which are openly available and which nobody, including the delegates, actually reads.

02:18:02.000 The notes by the chair on the expected outcome of this conference.

02:18:07.000 Which is what I'm basing things on, because that's likely to be right.

02:18:10.000 They've had several preliminary conferences, first in Bonn, then in Tianjin in China last month, to prepare for this one.

02:18:17.000 So they pretty well all knew where they were going when they got here.

02:18:20.000 So the Chairman's Note is a pretty good guide to what is actually going to happen.

02:18:24.000 But get this.

02:18:25.000 It's 33 pages long.

02:18:28.000 It's written in the most obscurantist, obfuscatory, obnubilating style, which is enough to send anybody to sleep.

02:18:35.000 Now, unless you know what the code words mean, you'd never realise just how much of an expansion of centralised, undemocratic power this whole exercise is.

02:18:45.000 For instance, let me give you an example.

02:18:47.000 You wanted me to quote from these documents.

02:18:50.000 They use a phrase called improving capacity building in the At least developed and less well developed countries.

02:18:57.000 And you think that sounds wonderful.

02:19:00.000 So you go and you talk to a few of the UN officials who draw up this garbage and you say, what does capacity building mean?

02:19:06.000 And it's nothing to do with industrial capacity or economic capacity or the capacity to live a civilized life or educational capacity or health capacity.

02:19:15.000 No.

02:19:16.000 It's bureaucratic capacity.

02:19:18.000 What capacity building means, in these documents, is that there are going to be vast bureaucracies established in these less developed countries, which will come directly under the control of our new masters, the Secretariat of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.

02:19:35.000 That's what capacity building means.

02:19:37.000 It occurs all the way through the treaties.

02:19:39.000 It sounds wonderful when you read it.

02:19:41.000 You think, oh, wow, they're really doing some good for the third world here.

02:19:44.000 All they're doing He's putting in bureaucracies to govern them.

02:19:47.000 You've got to rule them under the new neo-feudalism, the environmental iron fist.

02:19:52.000 Stay with us, Lord Monckton.

02:19:53.000 Back after this quick break.

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02:24:00.000 Ted Turner, third biggest landowner in the world, behind the Queen of England and Dutch royalty.

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02:24:10.000 He has five children.

02:24:12.000 He has more than 20 aircraft, more than a dozen homes.

02:24:16.000 He flies in on his private jet, and then lectures us we shouldn't take a hot shower, we shouldn't have more than one child, we shouldn't take a hot bath.

02:24:24.000 People all over England, old people being cut off their gas allowance, are having to ride around in buses to stay warm.

02:24:30.000 The Guardian reports.

02:24:32.000 There's plenty of gas and power for all the rich people in the U.S.

02:24:37.000 and England that stand to make money off the carbon tax.

02:24:41.000 Lord Monckton, I heard that you've been trying to track down Mr. Eugenics, Mr. Green, Green, Himmler, Hare, Ted Turner.

02:24:53.000 Yes, absolutely!

02:24:54.000 The Graf von Unto Turner, he was attending a business conference at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel a couple of days ago, here on the Sandy Strip at Cancun, and I gatecrashed the conference and went around it for a bit, until eventually the organisers came along and chased me out.

02:25:12.000 And they said, you're not allowed in here, the only people who are allowed into this conference are people who believe that global warming is the worstest possible problem ever in the world.

02:25:21.000 And you're not allowed in.

02:25:22.000 It's sort of baby talk they use.

02:25:24.000 And I said, but I want to meet Mr. Turner.

02:25:25.000 I'd like to issue a challenge to him.

02:25:27.000 I'd like to provide some entertainment for the delegates here by having a one-to-one debate with him in front of them.

02:25:33.000 Or is he going to run away and are you going to run away?

02:25:36.000 He said, no sir, you're going to run away.

02:25:37.000 We don't want your sort here. 1.00

02:25:40.000 So clearly there is a reluctance on the part of Mr. Turner to face The amiable peer of the realm, Lord Monckton, on a debate about the climate.

02:25:49.000 And why might that be?

02:25:51.000 Well, I suspect it's the same reason, Ted, baby, as Al, baby, when I threatened to debate him.

02:25:57.000 I sent a challenge to Al Gore.

02:25:59.000 He also backed off.

02:26:01.000 In fact, he's been backing off and running away for nearly four years now.

02:26:05.000 So, Ted, if you're going to join the run, Join the panic, join the escape, then you just avoid debating with me face-to-face.

02:26:13.000 I'll debate with you, Ted baby, anywhere in the world, on international television, and we'll take any format of debate that you like, as long as it's reasonably fair, and then you and I will go head-to-head, and we'll argue this thing out, and let's see who prevails.

02:26:30.000 Now, Alex, what I would advise is whatever you do, don't hold your breath waiting for a reply from Ted Turner any more than you would have done if you'd waited for a reply from Al Gore.

02:26:42.000 I'm beginning to run out of white feathers on my estate to send to these people who are backing out of this debate because they know perfectly well, just as the delegates here, many of them privately are now admitting they know perfectly well, That there is no global warming problem.

02:27:00.000 It is simply a chimera.

02:27:02.000 It is simply a device used by people who have other agendas which are extremely nasty.

02:27:09.000 Here we are, effectively, trying to reinstall global fascism, having just got rid of it in Europe.

02:27:16.000 Now here we are, reinstalling global fascism in the name of saving the planet.

02:27:22.000 And as you and I know, Alex, the planet was triumphantly saved Expanding on that, James Cameron issued challenges to leading global warming skeptics, and then when leading one stepped forward, he chickened out.

02:27:42.000 They will not debate it, and they know deep down it's an excuse to have a managed takeover economy.

02:27:48.000 A lot of them are on record admitting that.

02:27:50.000 What percentage of the higher-ups know it's a complete fraud?

02:27:54.000 I mean, we know from their internal emails they know it's a fraud, and that they've got to hide the truth.

02:27:59.000 But I mean, what percentage of them know it's a fraud, and then you've got the people in polar bear outfits, you know, running around?

02:28:06.000 I mean, I see more and more of the camp followers realizing they were on some type of Jim Jones cult compound.

02:28:16.000 That's a very good description of this place, I must say.

02:28:18.000 It is a very curious religion.

02:28:20.000 Let's start with your point about whether the higher-ups know what's really going on, that they know that there isn't a problem.

02:28:28.000 Let me give you an example.

02:28:29.000 At last year's Copenhagen conference, one of my colleagues here, Wolfgang Mller, from the German division of the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, which I represent here at this conference, he was standing next to one of the two delegates, official he was standing next to one of the two delegates, official delegates from Pakistan, which is one of the state's parties for the And the other delegate was up on the stage speaking about how terrible it all was.

02:28:55.000 We were having floods, we were having droughts, and we were having this, and we were having that.

02:28:58.000 It was all ghastly, and it was all because of our fault.

02:29:01.000 And quietly, the other delegate said, he knows, and I know, that there's not a word of truth in any of that, and that the whole of this thing is just nonsense, that we've been told by our government to say, and so that's what we have to say.

02:29:17.000 Lord Monckton, Lord Monckton, we've got to go to break and that's just as well because you just covered some key info.

02:29:23.000 Your phone for the first time was breaking up.

02:29:26.000 Let's perhaps re-establish the line or see if it clears up during the break.

02:29:30.000 I want you to come back because that takes us to the WikiLeaks cable, which the State Department admits is real, which you covered without having the secret documents that the U.S.

02:29:40.000 and England were in there twisting arms last year and promising people payoffs if they went along.

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02:34:11.000 We have to work with dark side, or we're going to spend time in the shadows.

02:34:15.000 Any attempt to achieve world order must be the work of the devil.

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02:34:21.000 I'm glad to sit here at the right hand of Satan.

02:34:23.000 There's a need for a new world order.

02:34:26.000 Someday, in the next few years, a solution will emerge.

02:34:33.000 I'm Alex Jones.

02:34:43.000 Lord Christopher Monckton joins us.

02:34:47.000 His website and organization is the leading think tank really laying out the facts of this global takeover and we are beginning to win battles and the war.

02:34:59.000 Scienceandpublicpolicy.org.

02:35:02.000 Our sites are infowars.com, prisonplanet.com and prisonplanet.tv.

02:35:06.000 We are fighting the prison planet, the collectivist and their elitist owners See, the ultra-rich, many of them, are in a camp not liking free market.

02:35:15.000 They want to use government to shut everybody else down because they can't compete.

02:35:19.000 And Lord Monckton is fighting them and routing them to the ends of the earth and they run from him in literal fear.

02:35:26.000 I've seen video activists have shot.

02:35:28.000 It is as if the mild-mannered Lord is Darth Vader or something or a giant bucket of holy water to a vampire.

02:35:38.000 Now, I had the London Guardian Report here, Lord Monckton, where they admit, and the State Department admits this in its anger, they admit it's a real cable, that other governments were all freaked out by the threats, the bribes, the promises of money, the arm twisting.

02:35:55.000 We see the United States at the center along with Gordon Brown, the disgraced Prime Minister, former Prime Minister, spearheading this, trying to ram it through on people, and you knew that at the time, but now that's all come out, and that was mirroring what you were talking about, the Pakistani Minister who's been promised money, up there spewing all this, it's the end of the world, oh my gosh, the West did it, because they've been promised money, this is now confirmed, it just shows what incredible fraud this is. 0.93

02:36:25.000 The whole thing is nonsense, but let's be nice to the bedwetters.

02:36:30.000 Let's make this Be Nice to Bedwetters Week, and let us pretend, just for the sake of argument, Alex, that in fact there is every bit as much of a global warming problem as the United Nations would like to imagine.

02:36:47.000 It is, of course, imaginary, but let's just pretend.

02:36:51.000 Just for the sake of a game.

02:36:53.000 Alright, now we know that at this conference they are going to try to bully the countries of the West, who are all too eager, most of them, to comply, to hand over a hundred billion dollars of Western taxpayers' money.

02:37:08.000 To the UN.

02:37:09.000 Of course, the name of the game is that you're supposed to go to third world countries to help them to adapt to the consequences of the terrible global warming that we in the West have caused by our emissions of carbon dioxide.

02:37:23.000 But, let's just pretend for a moment that they're right.

02:37:26.000 A hundred billion dollars a year is a trillion dollars every ten years.

02:37:32.000 Now the thing is this, that in order to forestall Just one Celsius degree of warming.

02:37:41.000 If the U.S.

02:37:42.000 government was right in its figures for how much the Waxman-Markey bill would cost, which had a fairly typical lot of range of measures like cap and trade and regulations on emissions and all that kind of thing, then you would need to spend $100 billion a year for 340 then you would need to spend $100 billion a year for 340 years in order to forestall just one Celsius degree

02:38:08.000 That Al Gore says is going to make all the coastal cities disappear within seven years.

02:38:13.000 So, a 300-year solution to a seven-year problem.

02:38:18.000 That's right, and not only that, but if you wanted to forestall all 3.4 degrees Celsius, which is about 6 Fahrenheit of warming, which the UN says might happen on the globe by 2100 in the next hundred years, then it would take you 1000 years of spending a $100 billion rate just to make that tiny amount of temperature change not happen.

02:38:45.000 So there is a huge mismatch between what these people are trying to argue for here and what they could possibly achieve.

02:38:55.000 And curiously, until I recently did these calculations, nobody anywhere in the world had sat down and worked out and said, OK, supposing we spend all this money, how much global warming will we actually forestall?

02:39:08.000 It's all been done on the basis that if we spend the money, maybe it will make a contribution.

02:39:13.000 Nobody has worked out that in fact it makes practically no difference at all.

02:39:17.000 So even if there were a problem as big as these nitwits here think that there is, the fact is that all the spending that they are proposing to make, and it's critically expensive spending, would not make anything like enough difference even to begin to show the problem.

02:39:33.000 And this leads to the obvious conclusion that if there were to be any problems arising from warmer weather, and frankly, if you find any global warming, send us some in Scotland, my lovely wife could do it pretty badly, then if there really were...

02:39:47.000 What we would simply do is to say, look, we'd be better off adapting to the warmer weather and its consequences in a focused way, as and only when necessary, rather than squandering all these billions and trillions now on what is an entirely futile exercise.

02:40:08.000 Lord Monckton, you got cut off by the break earlier.

02:40:11.000 You were trying to tell the story of the Pakistani minister telling you that the other Pakistani minister was just saying it because they've been promised money.

02:40:21.000 That's now confirmed by the cables that this secret arm-twisting was going on.

02:40:26.000 Recap that because your phone was breaking up at that time.

02:40:30.000 Yes, certainly.

02:40:31.000 This, in fact, I think I mistakenly said this was in Copenhagen last year.

02:40:34.000 In fact, it was Bonn this year, at which one of my colleagues, Wolfgang Müller, who is from the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, which I also belong to, it's an environmental group that believes in looking after the environment rather than worrying about global warming.

02:40:49.000 We're here under their aegis.

02:40:51.000 He was sitting next to one of the two Pakistani delegates at the discussions in Bonn, which were leading up to this conference here in Cancun.

02:41:01.000 And the other delegate was up on the platform speaking and saying, oh, it's all terrible, we're doomed unless we shut down the economy to the West, all this kind of rubbish.

02:41:10.000 And his colleague was sitting, talking to Wolfgang Muller, not really realising that we were on the other side of the face, and saying to me, though, actually, neither of us believe a word of this nonsense, but our government has told us to say it.

02:41:23.000 And of course, we've seen this.

02:41:25.000 Time and time again before, governments spinning in-vehicle into changing their view and becoming alarmist.

02:41:32.000 India has just decided it's going to change its view and start accepting compulsory caps on the amount of carbon dioxide it emits.

02:41:40.000 And it's doing this, almost certainly, because somebody has offered a very large sum of bribe to do that.

02:41:47.000 We had it in Russia when the Russian Academy of Sciences got a report from Dr. Andrei Illarionov, who was one of its key scientists in 2004, saying, look, we've had a conference at which we invited skeptics and we invited the British government to send its chief scientist to tell us why there was a problem and we had the skeptics Well, and the Chief Scientist, I don't realise who the sceptics were there, walked out.

02:42:13.000 He couldn't answer our questions.

02:42:15.000 So, Ilarionov then made an impassioned speech saying that Sir David King, who was then the Chief Scientist, had let down the name of Britain, let down the name of Sir, and had certainly convinced him that there was no problem at all with global warming.

02:42:28.000 Of course, King was trying to say the exact opposite.

02:42:31.000 So, then six months later, Tony Blair went to see Gasputin, the new tower of all the Russians at that time, and said to him, look, if you want to get entry into the World Trade Organization on highly favorable terms, we want you to shut Dr. Ilarionov and the Russian Academy of Sciences up.

02:42:50.000 Get them to change their view and become a true believer in the new religion of global warming.

02:42:54.000 Because that way, all of us in the governing class can, and I'm going to use a rude word here, can screw the ordinary people of the world.

02:43:03.000 And of course, Putin changed his mind, ordered the Russian Academy to do the same.

02:43:08.000 And these are the very nasty little games that are being played.

02:43:12.000 But of course, the more they play these games, the more they get caught out.

02:43:16.000 Because, you know, the great thing about bureaucracies is that most of the people who are in these bureaucracies are actually good people.

02:43:22.000 They're trying to do a decent job.

02:43:24.000 They can see that the maniacs who are in charge of the asylum are dishonest and corrupt. 0.63

02:43:31.000 One of them has the courage to stand up and say so.

02:43:33.000 That's how we get the WikiLeaks.

02:43:35.000 That's how we get the climate gate emails.

02:43:37.000 That's how we get these stories from the Pakistan minister.

02:43:39.000 That's how I got Andrei Ilarionov to tell me personally what I've just told you.

02:43:45.000 Unbelievable!

02:43:46.000 He was told directly by the head of the Russian Academy of Sciences that this went on.

02:43:50.000 That is a huge news story in and of itself, showing how they do this by hook and by crook.

02:43:55.000 Now, shifting gears, we know these people love to play the part of savior of the earth.

02:44:00.000 They're also control freaks.

02:44:03.000 The White House science czar agrees with Ted Turner in writings that he wants to sterilize us with chemicals in the water and he wants one-child policies.

02:44:12.000 He's also told the Associated Press in the first press conference he gave almost two years ago that he wants to geoengineer the planet to save us.

02:44:22.000 uh... from environmental degradation and we know bill gates is pushing this is bought the patents for it so another way they want to taxes is for of the world having to pay them to quote save us from the global warming then they get to play the part of like superman as savior of the world from lex luther now the bogeyman bizarro uh... and the rest of superman's uh... enemies we have an activist post article you and climate

02:44:51.000 concern morphs into chemtrail glee club and I've got all the different articles here where they're hopping around at the meeting trying to get rid of the UN treaty on geoengineering from decades ago.

02:45:03.000 So what else?

02:45:05.000 I mean we cover the other official documents where they call for force relocating populations.

02:45:12.000 I mean what types of bizarre craziness are you hearing from these people?

02:45:17.000 Well, of course they are talking of forced relocations because of the imagined sea level rise, which also, incidentally, isn't happening.

02:45:25.000 Sea level is rising at around 8 inches to 1 foot per century, as it has done as best we can work it out for the last century and a half.

02:45:32.000 Before that, the records aren't too good.

02:45:35.000 But we can tell from ice cores and geological records that over the last 11,400 years, sea level has risen by more than 400 feet.

02:45:45.000 That's close to four feet per century.

02:45:47.000 Now we're down to less than one foot per century.

02:45:50.000 Ooh, I'm not very terrified, are you?

02:45:53.000 So, yes, they then propose all these monstrous geoengineering programs, putting giant umbrellas made of aluminum up between us and the sun in outer space.

02:46:03.000 And every time a meteorite comes along, it punches a hole and tears the thing apart.

02:46:06.000 They're thinking of using, in fact, putting more pollution back into the atmosphere because the pollution stops the sun getting through and cools down the planet.

02:46:15.000 Just one problem with that.

02:46:16.000 They had overestimated the amount of cooling caused by that kind of pollution.

02:46:20.000 And the figures were corrected last year in a paper by Gunnar Mayri, which is about to yet again change all the science because it means that the warming effect of CO2, paradoxically, is a lot less than the UN had formerly thought.

02:46:35.000 So we're getting all these people advocating more and more extreme, absurd, and above all expensive solutions.

02:46:42.000 And also, of course, very immoral solutions.

02:46:44.000 You know, the idea of saying to people, you can only have one child because we say so.

02:46:51.000 It's outrageous!

02:46:52.000 What they should be doing, but of course they won't do because they don't want to share their riches, is to make the poor people of the world richer.

02:47:00.000 Because as populations become more prosperous, and they come up above the poverty line, then their rate of breeding slows down all by itself.

02:47:10.000 You don't have to have abortion, you don't have to have artificial contraception, you don't have to have Chinese soldiers with guns, Shooting one of the two twins if a mother is unlucky enough to have twins. 0.73

02:47:20.000 None of that needs to happen.

02:47:21.000 All you have to do is make people more prosperous.

02:47:24.000 That's the kind of geoengineering that the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow is in favour of, and so is the Science and Public Policy Institute.

02:47:32.000 We visited just yesterday a village only 10 miles from where I'm standing in the conference hall, and that village had no electricity, no sanitation, no water, No school until a Catholic charity came and gave it one.

02:47:47.000 And no health care.

02:47:48.000 They have absolutely nothing except each other.

02:47:51.000 And the Mexican government is spending all this money on airfare and conferences while its own people are starving because they don't have basic amenities like electricity.

02:48:02.000 That's the kind of geoengineering I want to see.

02:48:05.000 Electricity for everyone.

02:48:06.000 Clean water and safe sewage disposal for everyone.

02:48:12.000 That's the kind of geoengineering I want to see, but you won't hear much of that among the lunatics at this conference here in Cancun.

02:48:21.000 And I hope you're getting the flavor, Alex, that I'm becoming very angry at this unwillingness of the world's governing class to listen to the needs of ordinary people around the world.

02:48:31.000 It's bad enough that they spit in the face of democracy and try and take it away.

02:48:35.000 It's bad enough that our freedom and our money are being taken away, but that they also kick the poor in the teeth while pretending to help them.

02:48:43.000 That seems to me to be something they ought to try for a very long time, somewhere uncomfortable after this life is not in it.

02:48:50.000 Well, that was my next point.

02:48:51.000 I mean, Ted Turner, all of them just write books, give speeches, dripping with venom, hating the third world.

02:48:59.000 But even the Royal Commission in 49 in England found if the third world was industrialized, they would get a negative population growth, just like has happened in Japan, Italy, England, the United States.

02:49:12.000 Not only does it stabilize, For every two adults, man and woman, they start having 1.3, 1.4 children, that the West is actually dying, and the UN admits the third world's going to stabilize, 2020, at about 8,200,000,000.

02:49:31.000 So they know, they know by de-industrializing the first world, by freezing industrialization in the developing world, that it's a death sentence, and it will hurt the environment. 0.95

02:49:44.000 Well, I'm afraid you're understating it, Alex.

02:49:51.000 I don't often say this to you, but really, I am so angry with these people because of their utter lack of concern, lack of thought, and lack of the use of reason.

02:50:02.000 What is it that differentiates us from all the other creatures in the visible creation?

02:50:09.000 It is that we have the ability to use reason.

02:50:13.000 And the entire governing class of the world, certainly that part of it, which is assembled in large numbers here in Cancun, they are all as though they are in a lunatic asylum, as though they are simply, totally unable to use their minds at all. 0.87

02:50:29.000 And of course, this is because they know, increasingly they know, that this whole climate rubbish is nonsense. 0.97

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02:50:40.000 They're profiting by it, they're making billions out of it, and they're making billions at our expense, and, worst of all, at the expense of the third world. 0.97

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02:54:11.000 We're going back to Lord Christopher Monckton to talk about how we stop these people and hopefully in the next few weeks or after Christmas we can get him on to talk about briefly the aftermath of this criminal consortium meeting down in Cancun.

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02:55:21.000 We got about four minutes left, Lord Monckton, down there at the conference.

02:55:25.000 Any other observations?

02:55:26.000 How do we stop these people?

02:55:28.000 What's the time frame on when we'll know?

02:55:30.000 If they were successful at this larcenous meeting.

02:55:35.000 Right, in the next two days we should hear whether or not they've come to the agreement I expect them to come to, and I've outlined the main points of that.

02:55:43.000 Huge expansion of bureaucracy, huge expansion of taxation of the West by the UN, huge growth in the Secretariat of the UN Framework Convention, which now has its own army, it has its own troops effectively, you see them now wherever you go, these UN security people who are Pretty nasty types.

02:56:03.000 They're all ex-merceries as far as I can see.

02:56:05.000 You know, this is growing into a kind of super state which exists wherever it decides to land and hold a conference.

02:56:13.000 The way we stop it, I think...

02:56:16.000 Is by the U.S. 0.90

02:56:17.000 and one or two other leading countries, once we have a Republican president again who starts taking interest in standing up for the U.S.

02:56:24.000 rather than trying to destroy it.

02:56:26.000 I hope you'll forgive me if I say that about your president, but it is very sad to see what he's been doing.

02:56:31.000 Well, he's not our president.

02:56:33.000 He's a total globalist miscreant, but go ahead.

02:56:38.000 Well, what I'm saying is I think that what we now need to do is for America needs to leave the U.N.

02:56:44.000 Leave the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, leave the IPCC, on the ground that they are all fraudulent, corrupt, and unduly expensive, and that American taxpayers can no longer have the money taken from them, and the UN be trusted to spend it.

02:57:03.000 I think we've got to take that all away, leave it, We've got to found a new organisation called the United Democracies, in which only democratic countries will be allowed to participate, and the only people who will be allowed to speak for various nations at the United Democracies and its meetings will be people whom we, the people of the democratic world, have elected to represent us.

02:57:27.000 Because one of the big dangers, Alex, As the supranational organizations like this grim, secretive Secretariat of the UN's UN Framework Convention.

02:57:37.000 The danger is not one of these supranational, cross-border, powerful, ever-better-funded organizations.

02:57:46.000 Absolutely, Lord Monckton!

02:57:48.000 So every time we pass power from us to them, we're passing power from elected hands to unelected hands.

02:57:54.000 That must stop.

02:57:56.000 Article 1, Section 1 of your Constitution gives all legislative power to the elected Congress.

02:58:01.000 Nobody else can make laws or impose taxes on America except those who America elect. 0.71

02:58:06.000 Let that be the rule at an international level as well.

02:58:10.000 Absolutely, Lord Monkton.

02:58:11.000 No more taxation without representation.

02:58:13.000 No more legislation without representation.

02:58:15.000 You've been very gracious.

02:58:17.000 Hopefully, you can join us right before Christmas in the aftermath or after Christmas or in the New Year to let us know what happened.

02:58:23.000 We're blessed to have you there, and I really appreciate you spending time with us.

02:58:27.000 Good luck down there.

02:58:28.000 Be safe.

02:58:29.000 Real pleasure, and God bless America.

02:58:31.000 All right.

02:58:32.000 God bless you.

02:58:32.000 Back live tomorrow with Rand Paul.

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Alex Jones Show - December 09, 2010

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