Alex Jones Show - 20101229_Wed_Alex

00:00:03.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.

00:00:08.000 You want answers?

00:00:09.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:11.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:15.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:19.000 Well, this year is almost over. this year is almost over.

00:00:40.000 It is Wednesday, the 29th day of December, 2010.

00:00:44.000 We have an absolutely jammed-packed broadcast for you today.

00:00:52.000 We have Webster Griffin Tarpley and Attorney Phil Berg joining each other simultaneously, coming up in T-minus 32 minutes from now.

00:01:01.000 And they're going to be discussing the huge new developments on the birther birth certificate issue.

00:01:06.000 The new governor-elect who will be in office in just a few weeks, early next year, of Hawaii says that he's going to release the original blueprint with the signatures, the actual birth certificate.

00:01:20.000 And we've seen this flip-flop from Chris Matthews and others who said, You know, they've released the birth certificate.

00:01:25.000 This is the birth certificate.

00:01:27.000 Now they admit, oh, you actually couldn't get in the CIA with a receipt of birth certificate.

00:01:33.000 You have to show your blueprint.

00:01:35.000 You have to show the original with the signatures.

00:01:40.000 So this is a big deal.

00:01:41.000 And have they manufactured one?

00:01:44.000 Or is it a bluff?

00:01:46.000 Are they going to really release it?

00:01:47.000 Why didn't they do this two years ago?

00:01:49.000 And people for over two years have been demanding it.

00:01:52.000 I mean, if there was any question about my bird, people were making an issue, boom!

00:01:55.000 You just go to the Bureau of Statistics, even if you've lost it, that stuff's traded on the international market as collateral for the dollar.

00:02:03.000 That's on record.

00:02:04.000 The government's got it.

00:02:05.000 The IMF, the World Bank's got it.

00:02:07.000 All the big agencies have it.

00:02:08.000 The big private corporate agencies have it.

00:02:10.000 And they would just release it.

00:02:12.000 That is coming up.

00:02:14.000 Webster Tarpley and Phil Berg.

00:02:16.000 Mike Adams, the health ranger, editor of Natural News, with key information dealing with the bills to take over the family farm, the family ranch.

00:02:27.000 It's more than that.

00:02:27.000 And he excises out the subsections of a new article detailing how it's really part of a global enforcement of Codex Alimentarius.

00:02:34.000 With the United States trying to empower that UN program by stealth.

00:02:39.000 Kind of like Obama was in the news this morning saying, yeah, we're going to go ahead with carbon taxes, federal home inspections, federal zoning, total control.

00:02:47.000 I don't care if Congress didn't pass it.

00:02:49.000 I'm ordering the bureaucracy to move forward.

00:02:52.000 He also went ahead and announced, hey, guess what?

00:02:54.000 The death panels are still there.

00:02:56.000 We're going to cut your health care. 0.91

00:02:58.000 Because we're liberal and loving.

00:03:00.000 Bill Gates is out teaching folks how great it is as well.

00:03:02.000 So Mike Adams coming on.

00:03:04.000 Porter Stansbury will be popping in for 30 minutes to continue with his prediction and why he's predicting that the dollar in next year, sometime during 2011, will officially not be the world reserve currency anymore.

00:03:15.000 That's already starting to happen with China and Russia no longer dealing in dollars.

00:03:18.000 And then of course, former Dallas Cowboy, all-star guy, Mark Stepnoski will be joining us with one of the architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth, who of course really helped wake up Geraldo Rivera and others on Fox News.

00:03:34.000 They'll be joining us to talk about 9-11 Truth in the last hour and some big announcements on that front with the Building What campaign that we launched here a few months ago.

00:03:44.000 I guess six months ago or so that's now had such a big effect in New York City.

00:03:49.000 So jam-packed broadcast for you today.

00:03:54.000 I'm gonna attempt...

00:03:57.000 Of course, I didn't do this yesterday.

00:03:58.000 I covered some of it.

00:03:59.000 I'm going to attempt to just graze through at least the surface.

00:04:04.000 I don't have 100 plus articles.

00:04:05.000 I've only got about 50 or so.

00:04:07.000 And we'll probably cover two or three.

00:04:09.000 But they're all up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:04:15.000 And there's so much information on those sites.

00:04:18.000 Great job that the overall internet crew is engaged in at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

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00:04:40.000 The reason we're having so much success reaching more people with this vital message of liberty, exposing the tyranny of the New World Order, is because of you, the listeners, of the syndicated radio broadcast simulcast via video at PrisonPlanet.TV.

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00:08:22.000 Webster Tarpley and Phil Berg joining us in about 25 minutes on the huge developments on Obama's birth certificate.

00:08:30.000 We'll give you the latest on that coming up.

00:08:32.000 Mike Adams on the fact that they're having, quote, a flu pandemic over in Europe, over in England, despite the fact that it's being triggered by the flu vaccine itself, which is admitted.

00:08:43.000 Porter Stansbury pops in with more on dollar devaluation and we're also going to have former Dallas Cowboy lineman star Dallas Cowboy Mark Stepnoski on with an engineer with the latest 9-11 developments in a program that they're launching.

00:08:58.000 That'll be announced here on the broadcast today coming up in about two hours from now.

00:09:04.000 Okay, let me just do this.

00:09:06.000 I always try to do it and then I don't, but let me just read to you some of the headlines I've got here that are up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now on this live 29th day of December 2010.

00:09:19.000 It's about to be 2011.

00:09:23.000 It'll be 2012, then 2013, and our lives go by like the twinkling of an eye.

00:09:29.000 This happened over the holidays when I was out of town, and I've mentioned this before, because it's actually come out before, that when we get all these internal FBI, Homeland Security reports, I mean the latest a few months ago was in Pennsylvania, they didn't just have Homeland Security, they had Israelis spying on the legislature.

00:09:52.000 Wiretapping, you name it.

00:09:54.000 They had the U.S. 0.96

00:09:55.000 Army involved.

00:09:55.000 I mean, again, this is a criminal government.

00:09:59.000 They're spying on the Congress.

00:10:00.000 They're spying on the legislature.

00:10:02.000 It's not the government.

00:10:03.000 The government is the legislature.

00:10:05.000 The government is the Congress.

00:10:07.000 The illegitimate, rogue bureaucracy that works for the offshore banks is the enemy.

00:10:15.000 Why do you think these different agencies going back more than 60 years, every time you turn around, get caught running secret torture centers, secret biological, chemical, radiological testing centers?

00:10:27.000 It's not about testing the chemicals, biologicals, radiologicals.

00:10:31.000 They can test those on guinea pigs and get the exact same ratio.

00:10:35.000 Okay, if it kills a rat, or a guinea pig, or a rabbit, or a dog, or a pig, it's gonna kill a human.

00:10:41.000 It works the exact same way. 0.97

00:10:44.000 Plus it's immoral.

00:10:45.000 That's a side issue. 0.97

00:10:47.000 They have created armies of cadres of people that will put a baby in a radiation chamber and murder them.

00:10:54.000 That will fly over our troops during a drill and nerve gas them. 0.98

00:10:58.000 And then they practice how to cover it up.

00:11:02.000 I said I'd get into the news.

00:11:03.000 It's just this morning I was jogging and it just really hit me again just how evil these people are.

00:11:10.000 And how much danger we're all in if we don't resist them?

00:11:13.000 Because they're trying to totally take over every facet of society.

00:11:16.000 I was sent more internal FBI manuals and internal fear-mongering propaganda that they give local businesses.

00:11:27.000 They're going to the gun shops, they're going to the tattoo parlors, the haircutting places, the Walmarts, the farmer supply facilities.

00:11:36.000 I've got it right here.

00:11:37.000 Communities Against Terrorism, Potential Indicators of Terrorist Activity, and it says, uh, what should I consider suspicious?

00:11:44.000 First thing, new customer who is not from local area, and it goes on from there.

00:11:49.000 And the first thing the FBI, uh, people say when they come in and talk to the different businesses is, do you want to stop a new Oklahoma City?

00:11:58.000 Well, you're going to be our little agent now.

00:12:00.000 Our little informant.

00:12:02.000 And then the next meeting it's, do you know about gun owners?

00:12:04.000 Do you know about people criticizing the government in your area?

00:12:07.000 I mean, I have this confirmed literally hundreds of times.

00:12:10.000 And we have their internal documents.

00:12:12.000 The MIAC, the Homeland Security, the list goes on and on.

00:12:16.000 So again, they tell you, oh, we're here to stop Al Qaeda, then it's, oh, we're here to stop Tim McVeigh, and then it's, oh, we're here to stop the Ron Paul people.

00:12:24.000 We're here to stop the folks that want us out of the UN.

00:12:26.000 We're here to stop the people that want to cut the size of government.

00:12:29.000 What was in the Pennsylvania information that got leaked out, and the head of Homeland Security in that state had to step down?

00:12:34.000 But it was all under federal auspices, it was all under federal directives.

00:12:42.000 In the manuals that we published, in the internal reports that we published and local newspapers in Pennsylvania published, it said right there, they're protesting, and these members of the legislature are protesting, higher taxes.

00:12:59.000 And that threatens the infrastructure of the government.

00:13:03.000 I mean, they actually sit there in FBI and Homeland Security meetings and say, these states want to cut government.

00:13:10.000 That'll cut our pay. 0.99

00:13:11.000 That'll cut our positions.

00:13:12.000 That's a threat to government.

00:13:14.000 See, it's government now against the people.

00:13:19.000 And so, wiretap these people in the legislature.

00:13:23.000 Follow them.

00:13:25.000 This member of the legislature is running a pro-gun group. 0.94

00:13:28.000 He's a potential terrorist!

00:13:30.000 And then they couldn't get the state police to spy on the members of the legislature, so they brought Israelis in! 1.00

00:13:36.000 And it's all on record!

00:13:37.000 It's all illegal!

00:13:38.000 And nobody goes to jail!

00:13:41.000 What came out four or five years ago?

00:13:43.000 That MI6 and MI5 spy on every member of the Parliament in England.

00:13:47.000 The Parliament is the supposed government!

00:13:49.000 What is the rogue police agencies doing?

00:13:52.000 That's what happened in Nazi Germany!

00:13:56.000 That's who Hitler went out and recruited. 0.99

00:13:58.000 He went out and recruited the cops, the law enforcement, the military people, and then a bunch of street thugs and criminals to back him up.

00:14:04.000 What was in the news two days ago?

00:14:06.000 All over the country, the Army and National Guard is recruiting felons out of prisons as their backup.

00:14:13.000 They introduced it to the public that, oh, it's for disasters.

00:14:15.000 When you read the fine print, and civil unrest.

00:14:18.000 What did Stalin do?

00:14:19.000 He opened up the prisons.

00:14:21.000 Who did they use to enforce on the police and the military if they didn't follow orders?

00:14:25.000 Hardcore brigades of hardened murderers.

00:14:30.000 Who brought Hitler to power? 0.92

00:14:32.000 The SA.

00:14:32.000 If you look at the statistics, more than half of them were hardcore criminals.

00:14:41.000 Now, the hardcore criminals need to know that after the full tyranny is brought in, you're going to be put in prison or killed.

00:14:48.000 It's done everywhere.

00:14:49.000 Soviet Union, Communist China, Fidel Castro, Pol Pot, Hitler. 0.70

00:14:57.000 You need to know this.

00:14:58.000 I mean, they're following an exact blueprint we've seen repeated over and over again.

00:15:03.000 Julius Caesar used the mob.

00:15:05.000 He used criminals as his main enforcers in Rome.

00:15:11.000 This is not new.

00:15:13.000 We know exactly the case of tyranny we've got, and it's a nasty one.

00:15:17.000 It's the nastiest I've ever studied.

00:15:19.000 And we're watching it live-time unfold, and it is bad.

00:15:21.000 So, you might want to call the FBI, as we've done live on air, and tell them if they want to investigate Oklahoma City, I mean, we have their own internal FBI memos that have been gotten through four-year lawsuits.

00:15:33.000 And in one lawsuit, they blacked out part.

00:15:34.000 Another lawsuit years later, they blacked out the other.

00:15:37.000 So the lawyers were able to put both together, and the feds and Southern Poverty Law Center were running the op out of Elohim City.

00:15:44.000 As police officers told us, but of course they were murdered shortly after, Terence Yakey, Cop of the Year, and others.

00:15:49.000 They tortured him for something fierce, but I guess it's terrorism to expose the ATF bombing that building.

00:15:58.000 But continuing, um, ATF even tested blowing up a Ryder truck a few months before.

00:16:03.000 That's on record, but ah, nothing suspicious.

00:16:05.000 They even tested it out in the desert on record. 1.00

00:16:11.000 I mean, they think you're so stupid. 1.00

00:16:13.000 And they think the rest of you that are awake are going to be cowards and go, well, it's true, but I'm not going to speak out against them. 1.00

00:16:17.000 They might get me.

00:16:18.000 They've already got us.

00:16:20.000 All we can do is stand up against this crew of murderers.

00:16:23.000 So, FBI, you're running all over getting everybody ready for the white Al Qaeda, telling them Tim McVeigh is about to hit. 0.90

00:16:29.000 That means your bosses are about to hit.

00:16:30.000 Or maybe some Brits or Israelis you're going to hire, or Germans. 0.99

00:16:35.000 We know we've used all those groups.

00:16:38.000 We know our government has done that, but it's not our government.

00:16:42.000 So, I just thought I'd mention this story that we never got to last week.

00:16:45.000 I mean, it was on InfoWars and Prison Planet, but I didn't, I wasn't here.

00:16:49.000 Florida Fusion Center surveilled Ron Paul's campaign for liberty.

00:16:52.000 Well, good folks inside the Army leaked to us over almost two years ago that in late 2008, Well, in the Fed Day, in Texas, our group up in Dallas and Ron Paul in Houston, the Army was there in plain clothes and it said, do not let them know you're Army, they may kill you, they're terrorists.

00:17:12.000 Ron Paul may just pull out six shooters and just start blasting.

00:17:15.000 I mean, they do it with a straight face.

00:17:18.000 Okay?

00:17:19.000 Because Ron Paul knows who the enemy is.

00:17:21.000 And Alex Jones knows who's the enemy.

00:17:24.000 So every few years when I'm in a Target parking lot or in a dark parking lot at night, they like to have army guys and, you know, when suits come up and get around me and tell me I better watch myself.

00:17:36.000 It's all just letting me know.

00:17:37.000 Just letting me know I'm not in a free country.

00:17:41.000 So they can ship in their narcotics and kidnap little kids all over the world and have black sites where they torture people because they like it! 0.73

00:17:48.000 They build a world so they can have their party!

00:17:51.000 The average good, well-meaning person that joins the military is compartmentalized, has no idea this is going on, but it's in the hundreds now of Army, Marine Corps, Navy investigators that do do their job with corruption all over the world and they always get killed.

00:18:06.000 How many people got to get killed here?

00:18:09.000 You see, and by the way, they're not going to be satisfied with all the power and raping and corruption. 0.98

00:18:14.000 They want more! 0.99

00:18:15.000 That's why they're out in the open going, yeah, we got black sites, yeah, we torture people. 1.00

00:18:19.000 White House puts out memos saying you can bury people alive, you can torture their children in front of them, and then the Army report comes out and they admit that that's what's going on.

00:18:27.000 Because they like it!

00:18:30.000 They like it!

00:18:31.000 You figure that out yet?

00:18:32.000 They like it!

00:18:33.000 And smart Murderers and psychos, they don't go around just grabbing women off the side of the street in their yellow Volkswagen.

00:18:42.000 They go and they get into power.

00:18:45.000 And that's basic criminology.

00:18:47.000 They're called highly intelligent, high operation level psychopaths.

00:18:57.000 Highly functioning psychopaths is the actual term.

00:19:00.000 And they run the world. 0.72

00:19:02.000 And they're building a giant torture center.

00:19:04.000 Just a giant Disney World for themselves.

00:19:07.000 And it's their Valhalla.

00:19:09.000 It's their heaven. 0.99

00:19:10.000 And every time a Hitler or Stalin gets to build their Disneyland, it's just mass death, black uniforms, raping, people being stomped to death, burning cities, just... 0.99

00:19:20.000 And then it runs like a disease and burns itself out. 0.94

00:19:23.000 But the globalists call it the final revolution.

00:19:25.000 In all their white papers, they say, we're not going to let that happen.

00:19:28.000 With our high-tech system, we're going to manage it all, and it's going to get even better. 1.00

00:19:35.000 I mean, they just can't wait to rape your wife and blow your children's heads off and torture your children in front of you. 1.00

00:19:40.000 They love it. 1.00

00:19:41.000 And that's why it came out in mainstream news yesterday.

00:19:43.000 They're training law enforcement in the U.S. 0.99

00:19:45.000 to, quote, kill whole Muslim families in the U.S., including their children, in cold blood. 0.99

00:19:49.000 And the cops, when questioned, said, we're ready to do it. 1.00

00:19:52.000 Of course, they're going to say, now it's not the Muslims.

00:19:55.000 Go get that family on that farm. 0.92

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00:21:06.000 Yes.

00:21:06.000 He says it will change everything about our lives.

00:21:08.000 The way you shop, travel, invest, educate your children, and even how you take care of your health and your own family.

00:21:14.000 Now, this man has made some outrageous predictions over the years.

00:21:17.000 The crazy part is, he's usually right.

00:21:19.000 You see, he predicted the collapse of GM, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and America's biggest mall owner, General Growth Properties.

00:21:25.000 In fact, Barron's called his work a dire prophecy.

00:21:29.000 Recently, he created a video, which you can watch online for free, detailing his biggest and most important prediction yet.

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00:21:57.000 On the average, Americans work between 45 to 50 years, hoping to build up enough wealth to retire and live out their golden years.

00:22:04.000 Unfortunately, with taxation, the rising cost of food, energy, housing and medical, many retirees are forced to live below the poverty line.

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00:24:16.000 Okay, let's just admit how evil and out of control and illegitimate the criminals are that have taken over the unelected bureaucracy.

00:24:25.000 We've got links to mainstream news articles.

00:24:30.000 To the Orlando Sentinel, to all these reports in Kurt Nemo's article from last week.

00:24:35.000 Florida Fusion Center surveilled Ron Paul's campaign for liberty.

00:24:39.000 They didn't just list them, if you got an American flag on your car, get us out of the UN sticker on your car, or if you're flying the Gadsden flag, or you like Bob Barr or Ron Paul.

00:24:50.000 I mean, these are upstanding, respected people.

00:24:55.000 That you may be a terrorist, now they're going in, they're surveilling.

00:25:00.000 Public Intelligence, an international consortium of independent researchers, reports that a fusion center in Florida snooped on Ron Paul supporters and other political groups.

00:25:09.000 See, and that's now been admitted in the last year by Napolitano and others.

00:25:13.000 Over 95% of their operations are against real Americans.

00:25:20.000 I mean, if you're really what this country was founded on, if you are a good, decent person that doesn't want foreign banks robbing us, and doesn't want to lose your liberty, and don't want the dollar destroyed, you're the enemy! 0.83

00:25:31.000 Haven't people gotten this yet?

00:25:34.000 The government is bad!

00:25:37.000 And it's not going to get fixed just with some Republicans up there in Congress.

00:25:40.000 Now, if you take over all the statehouses through the legislative system, which is what they're really worried about, That's who they're surveilling, trying to get dirt to feed it out to local cops and the threat fusion centers to set you up.

00:25:54.000 But we've got to be, we've got to have courage, we've got to be bold.

00:25:57.000 But I've said it many times, it's not really courage.

00:26:00.000 For people that aren't informed, they have to have courage to stand up.

00:26:03.000 But when you know that these people are basically trying to set something up worse than Stalin and Hitler, then, I mean, there's nothing you can do.

00:26:16.000 I mean, you think somebody's happy when they go open up their business at 7 a.m. 0.95

00:26:20.000 in the morning, and there's people in there robbing it, and they've got to go out to their car, get their gun, and go in and shoot them?

00:26:25.000 No, it's just got to be done!

00:26:26.000 And it's the same thing here in the Infowar.

00:26:30.000 You think I'm happy this is going on, I've got to risk my life?

00:26:33.000 No!

00:26:34.000 But it's got to be done! 1.00

00:26:36.000 They're there, they're doing it, we know they're crooks, we know they're sick! 1.00

00:26:39.000 I mean, these are really sick. 0.99

00:26:41.000 This isn't, look, if this was just boss hog corruption, I would know that it would take decades to lead to something worse. 0.90

00:26:48.000 And I wouldn't be as worried.

00:26:50.000 I'd be speaking out against it.

00:26:52.000 This is not boss hog corruption.

00:26:55.000 This is not Sheriff Pico Train or whatever his name is.

00:26:58.000 Roscoe Pico Train.

00:27:00.000 You know, writing tickets to folks that don't deserve it, making a little extra money being corrupt.

00:27:04.000 That's bad and that's wrong.

00:27:06.000 This is really nasty devilish stuff.

00:27:09.000 This is wicked upon wicked.

00:27:11.000 This is quadruple wicked.

00:27:15.000 It's so wicked I can't even believe they're this wicked.

00:27:18.000 But you notice they're operating out in the open now.

00:27:22.000 Telling you secret arrest and torture is good.

00:27:24.000 Admitting they're surveilling all of us without warrants and it's illegal.

00:27:27.000 Florida Fusion Center surveilled Ron Paul's campaign for liberty.

00:27:37.000 Thank you.

00:27:39.000 The event spanned the spectrum.

00:27:42.000 They got this through a FOIA request.

00:27:44.000 From a summit hosted by Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty to anti-war protests conducted by Code Pink and Veterans for Peace.

00:27:52.000 While the documents make no mention of specific threats arising from the events, they do indicate that the Fusion Center monitors political activity in a variety of forms and sometimes requests law enforcement officers to report on constitutionally protected activities.

00:28:07.000 And it goes on to how the Central Florida Intelligence Exchange was established with an $850,000 Department of Homeland Security grant.

00:28:14.000 Then they build them in all your local towns with more money.

00:28:17.000 Here's another one by Curt Nemo.

00:28:19.000 The day after this last story from last week, on December 24th, Tennessee Fusion Center puts ACLU on terrorist list.

00:28:30.000 Oh yeah, the ACLU, they're real terrorists.

00:28:33.000 I may not like them promoting abortion, I may not like the fact that they won't defend the Second Amendment.

00:28:38.000 They're certainly progressive socialist types.

00:28:41.000 But the ACLU are not terrorists.

00:28:43.000 In fact, they've got some good branches and some good members and some good work is done by them.

00:28:49.000 And the ACLU is what we make it.

00:28:52.000 And the ACLU has fought the Patriot Act and all the rest of it and they're standing up against the airport grope downs.

00:28:59.000 Well, what happens to them?

00:29:02.000 On Thursday we reported on a Florida Fusion Center snooping on Ron Paul and Campaign for Liberty.

00:29:07.000 Now we discover a Fusion Center in Tennessee has put the ACLU on a terror list.

00:29:12.000 As terrorists!

00:29:16.000 The Chattanooga Free Press reported that Tennessee anti-terrorism officials, officials, not servants, officials, placed the legislative lobbying organization on an internet map detailing terrorism entities and other suspicious activity.

00:29:30.000 And the group warns schools to ensure holiday celebrations are inclusive.

00:29:35.000 Gotta watch out about that.

00:29:40.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

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00:29:46.000 Barack Obama, the birth certificate.

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00:32:52.000 We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center in the heart of the resistance.

00:33:04.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Show!

00:33:08.000 Before I go to Attorney Phil Berg and Doctor of History, Webster Griffin Tarpley, expert on Barack Saint Obama, real name Barry Sitaro, with big developments on the birth certificate issue, huge developments, and before they leave us we'll play part of a Chris Matthews clip from just yesterday.

00:33:29.000 I was covering Tennessee Fusion Center puts ACLU on terror list, and they put them on the list for telling schools to make the holiday season inclusive.

00:33:41.000 Now, that's political manipulation.

00:33:43.000 They know in the polls, and I've seen national polls of above 75 percent, outraged by banning Christmas, banning red and green in schools.

00:33:52.000 That's going on.

00:33:53.000 So they do little politically correct things that are seen as politically correct by conservatives to make it look legitimate.

00:34:01.000 Meanwhile, they're spying on Ron Paul, liberals.

00:34:04.000 They spy on everybody!

00:34:07.000 That's how this political correctness works.

00:34:09.000 So I just wanted to add that final point.

00:34:11.000 You know, that sounds reasonable to conservatives. 0.76

00:34:13.000 Yeah, the ACLU are terrorists.

00:34:15.000 They want to restrict Christmas. 0.78

00:34:17.000 This is all part of a PSYOP.

00:34:20.000 Now, we've got Mike Adams coming up for 30 minutes in the next hour.

00:34:24.000 Then Porter Stansbury on the fact that the dollar is moving towards losing its World Reserve currency status.

00:34:32.000 We've got former top Dallas Cowboy lineman Mark Stepnoski and an engineer coming on to talk about new 9-11 truth developments and an operation they're launching.

00:34:43.000 So that news will be broken here coming up in the last hour today.

00:34:51.000 In fact, maybe I should play that Chris Matthews clip now.

00:34:57.000 Do we have that queued up?

00:34:58.000 I want to play a few minutes of this and then we'll go to Tarpelli and Berg together to get their take on what this signifies.

00:35:05.000 I've got my take.

00:35:06.000 I'm going to give it first here briefly.

00:35:08.000 But this is Chris Matthews recently talking about this new governor.

00:35:14.000 And now the governor, Democrat Neil Abercrombie, has vowed to release the birth certificate.

00:35:21.000 So that's the new development.

00:35:23.000 And the big change here is the full clips up on Infowars.com and PrisonBundit.com.

00:35:28.000 It's about eight minutes long.

00:35:29.000 We're just playing a minute or two.

00:35:30.000 Several times, Matthews says, could you get in the CIA with just a receipt of birth certificate?

00:35:38.000 They finally admitted that it's a It's a receipt, not the birth certificate, not the blueprint, not the photostat, not the one with the signatures and the feet print like all of us have.

00:35:53.000 It's a receipt of it.

00:35:55.000 Okay?

00:35:56.000 And you can't get in the FBI with one of those, you can't get in the CIA with one of those, you certainly can't be president with one of those.

00:36:03.000 And it's the Constitution.

00:36:05.000 Now, I don't know if he was really born in Kenya or not.

00:36:08.000 The evidence shows he was.

00:36:10.000 But I know he gave up his citizenship in Indonesia and became Barry Sotero.

00:36:14.000 And then now there's another name we find out about.

00:36:16.000 So, that right there under law means he can't be president.

00:36:19.000 But I'm about to go to both these men briefly for the rest of the hour.

00:36:21.000 But here is the clip of them basically panicking.

00:36:25.000 Some polls show 60%, some 50%.

00:36:28.000 The poll they cite is only 20-something percent.

00:36:30.000 Don't believe he's really an American or natural born. 0.94

00:36:34.000 So, here they are going from stonewalling for over two years and saying, you've got the birth certificate.

00:36:40.000 Sheng were liars. 1.00

00:36:42.000 Sheng were kooks. 1.00

00:36:43.000 Sheng, the full birth certificate's been released. 1.00

00:36:45.000 To now, Sheng, release the stupid thing. 1.00

00:36:48.000 Something we've always been saying. 1.00

00:36:49.000 This is a big deal.

00:36:50.000 Here it is.

00:36:51.000 Is this gonna help if we get more documentation?

00:36:54.000 And second question, why has the president himself not demanded that they put out the initial documents?

00:37:00.000 The President's got more important things to do, thank goodness that he's more focused on that.

00:37:06.000 Governor Abercrombie himself says that, and points out that it is he, the Governor, who's bringing this issue up.

00:37:13.000 Alright, hold on, for just a second, I'm going to finish the clip.

00:37:16.000 You can make a phone call and write a letter, and in about a month, a copy of your original birth certificate comes.

00:37:22.000 I know, because I lost mine once and had to get it.

00:37:25.000 Okay?

00:37:27.000 And they don't take a receipt of a birth certificate to get a new passport or driver's license.

00:37:31.000 They want the original.

00:37:34.000 Okay?

00:37:34.000 Or to get in school, they want the original.

00:37:37.000 So he was too busy to have one of his thousands of employees get it, and this has been an issue even during the campaign.

00:37:43.000 Huge issue, he just has gotten more important things.

00:37:46.000 Let's continue.

00:37:47.000 He saw Obama as a baby, and he is tired of people literally lambasting Obama's parents for no good reason.

00:37:56.000 And so he wants to try to put this to rest.

00:37:59.000 Of course, it won't work, because the birthers aren't interested in evidence that Obama was born a U.S.

00:38:06.000 citizen.

00:38:07.000 They only want to hear evidence that he was not, and that's not going to happen.

00:38:12.000 Well, what about going to that 20% or 23% we showed in the New York Times, Paul, that doesn't know?

00:38:17.000 They just want evidence.

00:38:19.000 Is that a group that has a right to get more documentation?

00:38:22.000 And would Robert Crombie's position here be the right one?

00:38:25.000 David.

00:38:25.000 Well, listen, there's enough evidence out there already.

00:38:28.000 There's the certificate that you're holding up.

00:38:30.000 But perhaps even more importantly, there are two birth announcements in Honolulu newspapers.

00:38:35.000 Imagine the conspiratorial mind that would have to, at the time of his birth, it was in 1961, plant those things so that one day he could become President of the United States.

00:38:46.000 So there's already plenty of information out there.

00:38:49.000 Not become President of the U.S.

00:38:51.000 This is routine.

00:38:52.000 Get the kid back in the country. 0.90

00:38:54.000 Falsify that he was born here so he could be a natural born.

00:38:57.000 And get all those benefits.

00:38:59.000 And more than half the family are on record being CIA and big foundation operatives.

00:39:04.000 And then finally, I'm not going to play the whole clip because we're running out of time here, but Matthews goes on and says, well, you couldn't get in the CIA with this receipt.

00:39:13.000 And he holds up a copy of his that is the photostat and says, we need to see this.

00:39:19.000 So I want to bring up Phil Berg and Webster Tarfully.

00:39:23.000 Phil Berg.

00:39:24.000 Going back two and a half years, he was the first to really question things.

00:39:28.000 Tarpley looked into it, began questioning it, has written books on the subject, and this whole thing is very, very suspicious.

00:39:36.000 But briefly from both of you, a two-minute statement from you, Phil Berg, attorney at law, on what you think this signifies, then a two-minute statement from Tarpley on this, and then I've got other questions.

00:39:48.000 Sure, thanks.

00:39:48.000 This is Phil Berg.

00:39:50.000 I appreciate it.

00:39:50.000 I filed my first lawsuit August 21st, 2008, before he was even nominated to the Democratic National Committee.

00:39:57.000 And I sued Obama and the Democratic National Committee, but they were cohorts together.

00:40:04.000 Um, I think there's significance to this.

00:40:07.000 First off, I agree with you.

00:40:08.000 The birth certificate issue is really not the issue because he was adopted in Indonesia and whatever citizenship he had in the United States he lost at that time.

00:40:17.000 He could have renewed it between the ages of 18 and 21.

00:40:19.000 There's no evidence he ever did.

00:40:22.000 There's no evidence he ever changed his name.

00:40:24.000 I believe his legal name was Barry Sotoro.

00:40:27.000 Where you can use an alias, you can use an alias, but not for fraudulent purposes.

00:40:32.000 And that's what he's doing.

00:40:33.000 And that's why everything's so sealed.

00:40:34.000 Right.

00:40:35.000 And I think the significance with Chris Matthews saying it, I think he's falling into a trap, which is wonderful.

00:40:41.000 I think Abercrombie really believes that Obama was born in Hawaii and he wants records released.

00:40:47.000 And he's got a rude awakening.

00:40:49.000 You don't see Obama just saying, OK, I'll release it.

00:40:52.000 Because up until one point, they only said out there, we looked at his vital records.

00:40:58.000 They never said we looked at his birth certificate.

00:41:00.000 And I think the significance of that is that I think they have the Kenya birth certificate locked up there in Hawaii, which they perhaps did when they got a short form or the document, like the document they produced.

00:41:16.000 It's just, it's outrageous, but I think now, It's coming our way.

00:41:21.000 More and more people are coming our way.

00:41:23.000 Obama's dropping in the polls.

00:41:25.000 His real name is Sotaro.

00:41:27.000 I have one case significant still going.

00:41:30.000 We just need to raise some money for it to the U.S.

00:41:32.000 Supreme Court.

00:41:33.000 Well, we have the school records that it's Sotaro.

00:41:36.000 And you were laughed at two years ago about that.

00:41:38.000 Now it's all over the news.

00:41:40.000 They've been trying to psychologically inoculate people to this now.

00:41:44.000 Just a year ago, we were kooks.

00:41:45.000 Now it's, oh, his name is Barry Sotaro.

00:41:47.000 He did worship at the Muslim mosque.

00:41:52.000 His mother didn't like it, but he said, I'm a Muslim.

00:41:55.000 And I'm not saying it's bad that he's a Muslim.

00:41:57.000 The point is, he lied about it.

00:41:59.000 Now all of that's coming out in the newspapers, but they're spinning it like it's cute and sweet.

00:42:04.000 Let's get Tarpley's take on that.

00:42:06.000 Well thank you Alex.

00:42:07.000 I think that the big issue behind all of this is the blackmail of Obama.

00:42:12.000 That whatever you think about this one way or the other, it's clear that he is blackmailed.

00:42:17.000 That he cannot produce a birth certificate for whatever reason.

00:42:20.000 They won't release high school, college, they seal it all.

00:42:24.000 I think it's quite right.

00:42:25.000 But especially on this constitutional issue of the natural-born citizen, it seems to me that there's a cartel.

00:42:32.000 Foreign intelligence agencies, you can just go through a list of countries, maybe groups in the Pentagon, certainly groups in Wall Street, are blackmailing Obama to kingdom come.

00:42:43.000 And there's a very significant vested interest in this.

00:42:47.000 If you look at, you know, the Rupert Murdoch news media, they don't seem to be that interested in the birth certificate issue.

00:42:54.000 I think the main reason is that Rupert Murdoch and his cohorts are blackmailing Obama to a fairly well.

00:43:00.000 Look at this tax monstrosity that just went through.

00:43:03.000 Tax cuts for the rich.

00:43:05.000 Tax cuts for Paris Hilton.

00:43:07.000 As Mitch McConnell, the Republican, said, When they had Bush and control of two houses of Congress, the Republicans could not get the deal on the estate tax that they just got from Obama with a Democratic majority.

00:43:20.000 Well, Webster, you know I disagree with your big government views, but I want to talk about this issue.

00:43:26.000 This is Obama betraying his own base.

00:43:28.000 No, I understand that.

00:43:29.000 The guy was financed by Wall Street.

00:43:31.000 What do you expect?

00:43:32.000 It's a better deal than the Republicans got, even under Bush.

00:43:37.000 This, I think, indicates the dimensions of blackmail, right?

00:43:41.000 Endless war in Afghanistan, these sellouts on the home front, all calculated to enrage his Democratic base.

00:43:48.000 Now, the other side is the Republicans are coming to town.

00:43:51.000 All eyes here in Washington are on Daryl Issa.

00:43:54.000 Daryl Issa is going to be the head of the House Government Operations Committee.

00:44:00.000 And it normally would be up to Darrell Isid to step up and say, I'm the congressman from California, I'm the head of this new committee here, and I just want to see Obama's birth certificate.

00:44:11.000 So that may be going on behind the scenes.

00:44:13.000 The other thing, of course, is the Clintons.

00:44:16.000 It may indeed be that there are moves inside the Democratic Party to dump Obama. 0.98

00:44:21.000 He is a disaster.

00:44:23.000 And from their point of view, and to some degree from mine, what you have with Obama is going to be a series of betrayals and sellouts and capitulations.

00:44:32.000 As long as he's in office, it's going to be an absolute disaster from the point of view of people in the Democratic Party.

00:44:40.000 Obama ran on saying, I'm not Bush, and now with his tax bill he says, I am Bush.

00:44:45.000 Surprise, I really am Bush.

00:44:46.000 So this is political suicide.

00:44:48.000 But Webster, let me go back here and have you finish up your comment, and then go back to Berg, and then we'll come back to you.

00:44:55.000 My question for you is, and I didn't have time to play the whole clip, what does it signify to have them change course in the middle of the stream and go from stonewalling and calling this receipt of a certificate A certificate, and now admitting that we haven't seen his real birth certificate.

00:45:16.000 It is a test, I think, and a test.

00:45:19.000 It says that we have on deposit someplace else.

00:45:21.000 This is not the document.

00:45:23.000 It's the idea behind it.

00:45:24.000 Well, two things.

00:45:26.000 One is, it could be the Clinton machine or some other Democratic machine that is beginning to soften him up, beginning to encourage somebody to come forward to challenge him in the Democratic primaries, which is, I think, absolutely essential.

00:45:39.000 Well, Tarpley, you predicted this a year ago, or more, that they'd throw him under the bus going into the 2012 election.

00:45:44.000 And or it can be the people who own Matthews.

00:45:47.000 Now, this would be Immelt of General Electric, right, who owns that network.

00:45:52.000 Immelt may be saying, well, the Republicans are coming in.

00:45:55.000 I want to cover my bets.

00:45:57.000 I want to also take control of the issue a little bit.

00:46:00.000 Well, Tarpley, I mean, you predicted this a year ago or more, that they'd throw him under the bus going into the 2012 election.

00:46:06.000 We've seen Washington Post editorial pages calling for him to step down in the last month.

00:46:12.000 This is really happening.

00:46:13.000 Let's get Attorney Phil Byrd's take on this.

00:46:16.000 No, I think you really see a change and I think it's significant.

00:46:21.000 I think perhaps you're right on the Clinton thing because it's word that she's going to step down as Secretary of State and that could be setting up for her to run for president to get out of the administration right now. 0.72

00:46:34.000 But the big thing is There are so many people in this country that agree with us that Obama is a fraud, a phony, he's the biggest hoax against the United States of America in our history. 0.96

00:46:44.000 He's an imposter! 0.94

00:46:46.000 And think about it, when he first took office, he insisted on having his BlackBerry, which you see on his belt as he's walking around, because as Webster stated, I believe he's being blackmailed by the powers that be in this country.

00:47:00.000 And the powers that be are money people.

00:47:03.000 And he's told what to do.

00:47:04.000 His speeches, most of his speeches are off a teleprompter.

00:47:07.000 They're written by someone else.

00:47:09.000 He delivers a good speech when he's on a teleprompter.

00:47:11.000 Other than that, he doesn't.

00:47:13.000 So I think I agree with Webster at this point.

00:47:16.000 They might be ready to get rid of him at this point, and that will help us. 0.97

00:47:20.000 But I stood there from the beginning, and I really believe he's a fraud and a phony. 0.89

00:47:26.000 And the words I used, you know, if it was really... 0.60

00:47:29.000 False.

00:47:30.000 They'd be after me.

00:47:30.000 They'd be suing me.

00:47:31.000 But they haven't done that.

00:47:33.000 And we're on the right track.

00:47:34.000 And I just mentioned briefly, and it's real significant, the case I have getting ready for the U.S.

00:47:38.000 Supreme Court, because it was turned down, I'm claiming that Obama is not only not natural born, he's not naturalized, and therefore his term as a U.S.

00:47:46.000 Senator was fraud, and therefore the salary and benefits of a million dollars should go back to the U.S.

00:47:51.000 Treasury.

00:47:52.000 Obviously, if he couldn't be a U.S.

00:47:53.000 Senator, he can't be President.

00:47:55.000 And everything he's signed, everything he's signed is known void.

00:47:59.000 And whether it's from the left perspective or the right perspective, anyone who looks at that health care bill knows it was written by insurance companies.

00:48:07.000 It's a scam.

00:48:08.000 Even if you're a socialist out there, you know, it's not what you were asking for.

00:48:13.000 We need to get rid of it.

00:48:14.000 And so, Tarpoli, is this not good news, though?

00:48:17.000 If Obama is brought down because then so much of what he's done is discredited?

00:48:22.000 Certainly to get Obama out now would be a public service.

00:48:26.000 To have this issue come to the fore finally, to have Phil Berg's work of many years now put back in the public spotlight.

00:48:34.000 Because otherwise it's going to be a disaster from every point of view.

00:48:38.000 And again, if you are blackmailed in this way, you can't be president.

00:48:42.000 You can't carry out the constitutional office.

00:48:45.000 If you're constantly blackmailed by virtually every secret intelligence agency in the world, Wall Street and God knows what other What other cliques are doing this?

00:48:54.000 So, unfortunately, it's a painful process, but I'm afraid this is the situation we're now in, and the path of, what can we say, least damage to the country and the Constitution is for Obama to be removed from office.

00:49:08.000 And again, I would like to see Daryl Issa, if he's such a fire-breathing guarantor of the public interest, How about a quick subpoena for a birth certificate?

00:49:19.000 Let's get to the bottom of this.

00:49:20.000 That could be done next week.

00:49:22.000 Republicans take over next week.

00:49:24.000 So Darrell Issa, where's the subpoena?

00:49:26.000 That's right.

00:49:27.000 If they don't move directly to demand the birth certificate, which is just a fact-finding mission, then we know they're wanting to hold this back there to continue the blackmailing.

00:49:37.000 Exactly.

00:49:38.000 Because it's a very lucrative thing.

00:49:40.000 And they think that they're going to get a lot more things that they want over the next two years.

00:49:45.000 Again, that tax bill is the first attack on Social Security in terms of the old age pensions.

00:49:51.000 And I think there are people, Peter Peterson and the Koch brothers and all sorts of people... And they're selling it, just like in New Jersey, that this will fix the deficit.

00:49:59.000 If you don't get rid of the debt black hole and the fractional reserve banking and the derivatives, you could cut everything.

00:50:04.000 It's not going to pay anything off.

00:50:06.000 Yeah, the lesson of history is the more you cut, the bigger the deficit is in the out years when you come back in the following year.

00:50:13.000 So, this makes no sense.

00:50:15.000 So, nothing but terrible tragedy with Obama.

00:50:19.000 So, any hack politician, a normal hack bureaucrat politician would be better than Obama, and there's a broad array.

00:50:27.000 So let's get to the bottom of this fast.

00:50:30.000 And the heat is on the Republicans now.

00:50:32.000 They made big promises.

00:50:33.000 Let's see what they're made of.

00:50:36.000 First we want the birth certificate in the public domain, and then we want this other issue on the naturalization in Indonesia.

00:50:43.000 Yeah, and if the Republicans don't do that, notice Glenn Beck admonishes his audience almost every day, do not go after the birth certificate.

00:50:50.000 Do not go after it.

00:50:51.000 Because they want to keep using that card.

00:50:53.000 We want to play the card.

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00:53:56.000 We're almost out of time with Webster Tarpley and Phil Berg.

00:54:18.000 Yeah.

00:54:20.000 In closing, gentlemen, not what you want to happen, but what do you in your gut see happening with Obama?

00:54:28.000 The lowest approval rating in history for a president at this point.

00:54:31.000 The fastest continual dropping in history.

00:54:35.000 I mean, in another year or so, this guy, I can't see him with above a 20 point Approval rating.

00:54:43.000 I agree with you. 0.92

00:54:44.000 He's a puppet.

00:54:44.000 Get him out of there so that we can, you know, actually engage the globalists instead of them just blaming everything on their minion.

00:54:53.000 In closing, Phil Berg, how do you see this ending?

00:54:56.000 Well, I've been hopeful since 2008.

00:54:59.000 I think we need to spread the word.

00:55:01.000 You do a terrific job on that.

00:55:03.000 We have to get more and more people involved.

00:55:04.000 We have to put pressure on the Republicans, on Issa, to do it.

00:55:08.000 Or we'll see that Clinton and others are going to try to do away.

00:55:12.000 Clinton would have a lot of control, and he could do that and get them exposed.

00:55:16.000 But we have to do it because it's a disaster what's going on.

00:55:19.000 If we get him out of office, everything he's done is void or voidable.

00:55:23.000 It's voidable, so it would be void.

00:55:25.000 And we have to do it, and my website is obamacrimes.com.

00:55:29.000 If they go there, they can check the latest of my lawsuit, which is going to the U.S.

00:55:32.000 Supreme Court.

00:55:33.000 And I think that's a shot we have, but the courts have not been with us.

00:55:37.000 They've been in the pocket of Obama, but perhaps now things will change, because the powers that be may want to change, and they'll go our way.

00:55:46.000 So keep our fingers crossed.

00:55:48.000 Thank you so much, Philbert.

00:55:50.000 We'll talk to you again soon.

00:55:51.000 Have a good New Year.

00:55:52.000 Thank you.

00:55:53.000 Webster, from the beginning, I thought they were building Obama up as messianic to later destroy him.

00:56:00.000 I predicted that over a year and a half ago in the Obama deception, when his approval rating was still at about 70 points when that film came out, or above 70.

00:56:10.000 I believe this has all been scripted.

00:56:13.000 Do you have a different view of that?

00:56:14.000 A. And B. How do you see it ending?

00:56:16.000 Well, it's inevitable that when Obama ran for president with all of these messianic promises, utopian delusions, you know, the Messiah and all this, that there would be a very severe letdown, which would be much more severe than the usual disillusionment with the president when they When they begin to break their promises.

00:56:37.000 So with Obama, this is very, very significant because here the mistaken identity case was very severe.

00:56:45.000 Now, there are two things that could happen now.

00:56:47.000 One is Dallal Issa and these Republicans take their constitutional responsibilities seriously and there's some chance that they might Uh, and they, uh, delve into this, get that, uh, birth certificate out there.

00:57:00.000 Uh, the chances are, though, as you mentioned, uh, if, if Glenn Beck says, stay away from the issue, that means Rupert Murdoch is saying, stay away from the issue.

00:57:09.000 That means the Rupert Murdoch, George Shultz, It's worse than that.

00:57:14.000 Karl Rove is attacking anybody who may run against Obama and the Democrats everywhere.

00:57:17.000 You know, we want and we want to guarantee that the that the Republicans have Obama to run against.

00:57:22.000 It's worse than that.

00:57:23.000 Karl Rove is attacking anybody who may run against Obama and the Democrats everywhere.

00:57:28.000 He wants he wants six more years.

00:57:31.000 Right.

00:57:31.000 So what is what is Darrell Issa does something that would be a surprise to me?

00:57:38.000 The other one is maybe the Clintons, if they see that Obama is hemorrhaging and collapsing into the springtime and maybe into the early summer, they may then Take the plunge or somebody sent forward by them, a stalking horse for the Clintons, might emerge.

00:57:56.000 Everybody talks about Russ Feingold of Wisconsin.

00:57:59.000 It's an obvious choice.

00:58:00.000 I would welcome it.

00:58:01.000 I would welcome anybody getting in on the Democratic side.

00:58:05.000 Anybody of any note would tend to break the ice and indeed show the pent-up resentment and desire to get rid of Obama that exists in the Democratic base.

00:58:15.000 Do you like Russ Feingold because he voted against the Patriot Act?

00:58:19.000 He has some signs in his resume that he's an independent thinker.

00:58:24.000 And again, I don't really care who it is.

00:58:27.000 Structurally, the important thing is somebody should do it.

00:58:30.000 It doesn't really matter who. 0.98

00:58:31.000 Yeah, because Obama is a complete puppet. 0.96

00:58:33.000 All right, Webster, have a great New Year coming up. 0.96

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01:00:46.000 I want to get in the short segment into a swine flu pandemic outbreak sweeping through Britain.

01:00:54.000 Even though 70% were vaccinated last year, you have the Canadian studies and government studies in Europe showing that it lowers your immunity by about 50%.

01:01:04.000 When you take the H1N1 shot to the regular seasonal flu, now you don't have a choice, they're combining both.

01:01:11.000 And so I wanted to talk just briefly with Mike Adams about that.

01:01:14.000 Then we're going to come back with the big story here.

01:01:17.000 Homeland Security and U.S.

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01:01:44.000 But let's look at flu season first.

01:01:47.000 Obviously record low numbers of people took it here last year because of your work and others exposing it as dangerous, which has now been proved by the British Medical Journal, the EU Medical Board and others.

01:01:57.000 But Mike, now they're back fear-mongering.

01:02:00.000 Tell us about that.

01:02:02.000 Well, they are.

01:02:02.000 They are fear-mongering as usual, Alex.

01:02:04.000 You're right on target.

01:02:06.000 Even though about 70% of the over 65 population was vaccinated last year in the UK.

01:02:13.000 They're already saying that there's a new pandemic sweeping through the country.

01:02:17.000 Several hundred people are in hospitals now suffering from swine flu.

01:02:21.000 But there's a number that they never tell you.

01:02:24.000 They never say how many of those sick people were vaccinated either this year or last year.

01:02:31.000 Because there's something that I call the reinfection rate.

01:02:35.000 And it's a very high number.

01:02:36.000 We don't know how high it is because they won't release the number.

01:02:39.000 They won't do the studies on this.

01:02:40.000 But people who are vaccinated have a weakened immune system when they face future exposure to infectious disease.

01:02:50.000 So I'm sure your listeners are on board with this.

01:02:53.000 They're well informed.

01:02:54.000 They already know this.

01:02:55.000 But the mainstream conventional medical community denies this.

01:02:59.000 They try to imply that if you're vaccinated, it's 100 percent.

01:03:04.000 You know, you take the shot, you won't get sick.

01:03:06.000 Well, that's a fraud.

01:03:09.000 In fact, it's marketing fraud.

01:03:10.000 If the FTC, the Federal Trade Commission, actually enforced, you know, false marketing regulations against the drug companies, they would go after them for making those claims because vaccines don't work 100%.

01:03:23.000 In fact, if you look at the science, and I have, and I've written about it, and you have too, they're about 1% effective if you believe the drug company's own studies.

01:03:35.000 So for every 100 people who are vaccinated, You're going to reduce flu symptoms in about one person.

01:03:42.000 But that's on the benefit end.

01:03:44.000 When you look at the negative effects, as you know, but for those that don't, every major study out there shows vaccines lower overall immunity, including to the things that they're supposedly protecting you from.

01:03:55.000 And the anecdotal on the street is it's common knowledge that I took the flu shot and got the flu.

01:04:02.000 I mean, it's common sense.

01:04:04.000 Well, exactly.

01:04:05.000 There are dangerous chemicals in these vaccines.

01:04:07.000 There are chemical adjuvants, which are designed to cause an inflammation response of the immune system, but it also causes inflammation of the nervous system.

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01:04:20.000 And now here's the big untold story about vaccines is the miscarriages.

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01:04:34.000 The Australian government's been admitting it.

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01:04:37.000 The British government admits a tenfold increase in seizures in children taking it and they suspended it.

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01:08:21.000 You know, we see the headlines, but they don't get the attention.

01:08:25.000 London Guardian comes out.

01:08:27.000 British government admits tenfold increase in seizures of children that took the H1N1 shot.

01:08:33.000 They admit it's causing, with the adjuvants, an autoimmune response, brain swelling.

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01:08:49.000 But now it's actually being admitted in Australia, the massive miscarriages.

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01:09:04.000 Mike Adams, the editor of Natural News, the health ranger, is going to be joining us to talk about that.

01:09:10.000 But the main issue is this food safety bill.

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01:09:17.000 We're going to get where that bill's at, what's happening with it, with Mike Adams.

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01:12:38.000 Going back to Mike Adams, one of the leading alternative health experts out there.

01:12:43.000 Very respected.

01:12:44.000 Recapping what you're recovering with the 2010 flu hoax.

01:12:48.000 Maybe we should briefly look at the 2009 and then that miscarriage information.

01:12:51.000 We're trying to save some lives here.

01:12:53.000 Then we'll shift gears into the UN angle of the food enslavement bill.

01:12:59.000 Sure.

01:12:59.000 Well, you've got to realize that the drug companies, the vaccine manufacturers, They have to fabricate an emergency every year in order to try to get people to take these shots.

01:13:09.000 And so, this year, that has failed for the most part.

01:13:12.000 People were not getting vaccinated.

01:13:14.000 People learned their lesson from last year.

01:13:16.000 You know, the big swine flu hoax crashed and burned.

01:13:19.000 And also, people who didn't take the shot, who instead took vitamin D, and who took superfoods like your sponsor, Enterfood, and other good foods out there, and who took care of their health, they were fine.

01:13:31.000 They didn't get sick.

01:13:32.000 And they, a lot of them woke up, and they realized, gee, we don't need the vaccine.

01:13:36.000 We're going to be healthier without it.

01:13:38.000 So now, Because their propaganda is failing, they have to push it.

01:13:42.000 And that's what they're doing now in the UK.

01:13:44.000 They're pushing it.

01:13:45.000 There are a couple hundred people in the hospitals who are suffering from swine flu, and they're saying everybody needs to get vaccinated.

01:13:51.000 Now they're saying we're going to revisit the vaccinations for children under five years old, because they pulled those vaccines previously for children under five in the National Health Service because of the potential risk.

01:14:04.000 But now they're saying, well, because of this pandemic breaking out, We've got to vaccinate all those kids.

01:14:10.000 And in the U.S., as you hinted, they're now saying we've got to vaccinate pregnant women, too, so that their children can be, quote, protected.

01:14:17.000 And by the way, I also saw an article recently saying that they're promoting chemotherapy for pregnant women, saying it's safe to have chemo even when you have a child inside you.

01:14:29.000 This is medical insanity.

01:14:32.000 I mean, how many parties are going to be involved today?

01:14:34.000 They're setting the precedent to get away with mass murder, and they know what they're doing.

01:14:38.000 They're turning health purely into a death camp, a eugenics camp, as Ted Turner and Bill Gates have admitted.

01:14:44.000 I mean, they mean business.

01:14:46.000 And for those that don't know, I remember just a few years ago, it always said in the inserts And I've had medical doctors on that have pointed this out, that you never give a pregnant woman a vaccine, because they know it causes autoimmune inflammation, not just in the brain, but in the fetus, and triggers massive increases in miscarriages.

01:15:05.000 This time they said women who have babies in their uterus, you're the one that really needs this. 1.00

01:15:12.000 I mean, what an outrageous thing they did, and I've seen it.

01:15:15.000 The only country to be admitting it is Australia, where they're admitting this is causing the death of babies.

01:15:22.000 Well, it's astonishing in all this if you look across the government bureaucracy.

01:15:26.000 And, you know, you had Rand Paul on a couple of weeks ago talking about how these bureaucrats create laws themselves, essentially by creating regulations.

01:15:35.000 They're unelected, but they create regulations.

01:15:38.000 Like the FDA and the TSA and the DEA and so on.

01:15:42.000 These government bodies, they now, they just blatantly lie.

01:15:46.000 They don't even care about telling the truth.

01:15:48.000 They don't even care if they're caught in a lie.

01:15:50.000 They just keep lying because most people keep buying it.

01:15:54.000 So they throw out the evidence of harm for vaccine.

01:15:57.000 You know, the TSA tried to dismiss any of these complaints about, you know, people breaching down their pants and so on.

01:16:03.000 They say, oh, it's for your own good.

01:16:04.000 I mean, you've been all over that issue, so you know what I'm talking about.

01:16:07.000 Every agency now is just running rampant across our freedoms and across the Constitution.

01:16:14.000 And now, with the food safety bill, which I know we're going to talk about here, our food is at risk.

01:16:19.000 They want to control our food.

01:16:20.000 They want to reach into our refrigerators the same way the TSA has been reaching down our pants.

01:16:25.000 That's what's happened.

01:16:26.000 That's what's coming our way now in 2011.

01:16:30.000 Incredible.

01:16:30.000 Let's get into the Homeland Security tie-in.

01:16:34.000 It was admitted, even in the Wall Street Journal, a record $12 million given in the month of November to get the House to pass the draconian takeover.

01:16:42.000 The $12 million was given completely by mega agribusiness to shut down their competitions.

01:16:49.000 Let's go over it.

01:16:50.000 All right, well, let's set the frame here for your listeners.

01:16:54.000 The bill proponents said that this is all about food safety.

01:16:58.000 We're going to save 5,000 lives a year.

01:17:01.000 You know, the FDA is a good agency.

01:17:03.000 It's going to protect your food and protect your children and so on.

01:17:06.000 Well, what they didn't tell you is, for example, did you know that E. coli, according to the CDC itself, only kills about 82 Americans a year through food transmission.

01:17:18.000 82 people.

01:17:19.000 More people are killed by lightning ...in America that are killed by E. coli.

01:17:24.000 And yet, they made this into a big scare story.

01:17:27.000 And that's a CDC statistic, by the way.

01:17:28.000 You can see it right on the government website.

01:17:31.000 And then, they hid things in the bill, things that are just now starting to come out.

01:17:37.000 I've been reading this bill, Alex, going through it with a fine-toothed comb, because you know how crazy these bills can get where you have to reference this section and delete that phrase from that paragraph?

01:17:47.000 They're really hard to read.

01:17:49.000 But if you get to this and you actually read it, it turns out that this bill says that the FDA...

01:17:57.000 Has to put forth, quote, recommendations on whether and how to harmonize requirements under Codex Alimentarius.

01:18:06.000 It's right there.

01:18:07.000 The open world government standardization.

01:18:11.000 This is... Well, I mean, when you see the food safety bill, it's what's in Codex Alimentarius.

01:18:16.000 It's global standardization.

01:18:18.000 Now they're not even denying that.

01:18:20.000 They're openly trying to bring us under this world government to shut down local farms and ranches because people are discovering that we're being poisoned intentionally through the GMO.

01:18:30.000 People are getting the Rockefeller Foundation documents about vaccines having sterilants added.

01:18:35.000 It's all coming out.

01:18:37.000 And as the U.N. said in the 1996 Food Summit in Beijing, China, they would use food as a weapon.

01:18:42.000 They are using it as a weapon.

01:18:44.000 So it is our duty to start eating non-GMO.

01:18:48.000 It's our duty to start gardens.

01:18:49.000 It's our duty, even if they pass this, to literally rebel.

01:18:53.000 And they're setting up the SWAT teams, everything.

01:18:55.000 They're SWAT teaming the Amish to grow those tomatoes and then let them try to arrest you and further discredit these hordes of demons they've recruited. 0.90

01:19:06.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:19:06.000 The most patriotic thing that you could do, perhaps, right now, is to grow your own food and sell it at a local farmer's market.

01:19:14.000 Sell it to your neighbors.

01:19:15.000 Sell it to your community members.

01:19:17.000 You know, grow some honest tomatoes and just sell them.

01:19:20.000 And this is what the government precisely doesn't want you to do.

01:19:24.000 And that's why they've created all of this dark, globalist language in this bill.

01:19:29.000 Let me give you some other examples.

01:19:30.000 Stay there.

01:19:30.000 We're going to come back and hit this.

01:19:32.000 We've got to go to break, but think about it.

01:19:35.000 Ladies and gentlemen, in the 1930s, Stalin couldn't crush the poor farmers.

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01:19:46.000 So he said, you can't grow your own gardens anymore, and starved 30-plus million people to death.

01:19:52.000 I mean, they're not playing games.

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01:23:56.000 All right, going back to Mike Adams. going back to Mike Adams.

01:24:14.000 Only got about five minutes left with him right now.

01:24:17.000 Uh, my.

01:24:18.000 Mike, continuing, I mean, you've got quoted in your article, it's up at naturalnews.com, it's up at InfoWars and Prison Planet, people want to read it.

01:24:25.000 Food Safety Bill invokes Codex Harmonization and grants FDA authority to police food safety for foreign nations.

01:24:32.000 I mean, this is the global government right here and they mention it's Codex Alimentarius.

01:24:35.000 Tell folks what Section 308 really means.

01:24:39.000 Well, first of all, for those who are skeptical, and, you know, I encourage people to be critical thinkers, and they want to see this for themselves, if you go to the Thomas government search engine, where you can search bills, you put in HR 2751, because that's what this was passed under, and you bring up this PDF file, go to page 195.

01:25:00.000 You'll see this language for yourself.

01:25:02.000 And you'll also see Section 308.

01:25:03.000 It's called the Foreign Offices of the Food and Drug Administration.

01:25:07.000 Yes, we're not kidding.

01:25:09.000 The FDA is going to set up enforcement offices in other nations, other countries.

01:25:15.000 And they're going to dictate to these countries how they should run their food safety systems so that when they export food to the United States, It adheres to, quote, FDA standards, which, by the way, means that all your food should be dead, pasteurized, fumigated, or otherwise killed or nutritively destroyed.

01:25:36.000 To the FDA, the only safe food is dead food.

01:25:40.000 And they openly tell local farmers, get big or get out.

01:25:45.000 We know they force the Iraqis to only take Monsanto GMO crops. 0.95

01:25:50.000 I mean, this is a strategic military takeover.

01:25:53.000 Well, yeah, and additional evidence came out in the WikiLeaks cables, which shows that Spain was involved with the U.S.

01:26:00.000 ambassador to France and the GMO companies pushing GMOs into Europe, and they were creating a, quote, retaliatory target list of who to go after if they resisted GMOs.

01:26:14.000 I mean, this is all in the cables.

01:26:16.000 We know there is a GMO global conspiracy, and it's not a theory, it's a real conspiracy that's happening right now.

01:26:24.000 And now with this food safety bill, we know that the FDA is going to try to run the food safety programs of other nations and try to harmonize America with Codex.

01:26:34.000 This is coming!

01:26:36.000 You know, we've been talking about this for how many years, Alex?

01:26:39.000 And it's coming now!

01:26:41.000 It is now about to be signed by Obama and become law and be enforced.

01:26:48.000 Absolutely.

01:26:49.000 Continue, this is important what you're talking about.

01:26:51.000 Alright, well, it also involves the Department of Homeland Security.

01:26:55.000 This language is right in the bill.

01:26:57.000 It says that in developing this plan, the FDA is going to consult with these different departments, which they call stakeholders.

01:27:05.000 The stakeholders in the food safety bill include the Department of Homeland Security and, get this, the U.S.

01:27:13.000 Treasury.

01:27:14.000 What is the Treasury doing in my kitchen?

01:27:18.000 Why is the Treasury, why does it have its hands in the food supply issues? 0.89

01:27:22.000 Well, you already know the answer, and I think your listeners probably do too.

01:27:26.000 But the people voting on this bill, you know, the naive senators and members of the House who voted for this, they probably don't get it, or most of them don't, that this is all tied in with centralizing control.

01:27:39.000 Control over security, control over the money supply, control over the food supply, and control over your health, or actually your sick care.

01:27:48.000 So once they've got the control, then you don't have options.

01:27:52.000 You don't have an option to go grow your own medicine in your backyard, because you can grow medicine.

01:27:57.000 You know, natural herbal medicine and superfoods, you can grow them in your backyard.

01:28:00.000 They don't want you to do that, because that way you are a slave to the medical system, where you have to go pay money for prescriptions, and you have to keep paying month after month, year after year, until you one day die bankrupt as another victim of Big Pharma.

01:28:14.000 They have these systems of control, the grasp is getting worse, and thank goodness that there are still freedom fighters out there, like you Alex, like the health freedom organizations out there, who are trying to stand up, who are doing a good job actually, of standing up and bringing attention to this issue and helping us lead the fight to resist tyranny and restore the freedoms that we are supposed to be guaranteed under the United States Constitution.

01:28:40.000 Mike, I couldn't say it any more focused or succinctly than that.

01:28:44.000 And, you know, in closing, I just over the years see the mainstream media make fun of us about Codex Alimentarius, when all we're doing is covering what the private corporations of the UN and the World Trade Organization are announcing.

01:28:56.000 And then now here it is in the bill, and there's no discussion of it.

01:29:00.000 Thank God you found it in there.

01:29:01.000 It's always changing.

01:29:03.000 Like you say, they're hiding it in plain sight.

01:29:06.000 You know, I hear you use that phrase quite a bit.

01:29:08.000 You're exactly right.

01:29:09.000 They hide it in plain sight.

01:29:10.000 They put it right in there.

01:29:11.000 It's a government record.

01:29:12.000 That's a certified government document.

01:29:14.000 If you open up that PDF, it's a certified government document.

01:29:17.000 The language is right in there.

01:29:18.000 Use the search function yourself.

01:29:20.000 You can see it.

01:29:20.000 You can read it.

01:29:22.000 And you can bet the FDA is going to act on it.

01:29:24.000 They're going to push this agenda.

01:29:26.000 It's now about to become law.

01:29:28.000 This is happening today.

01:29:30.000 Amazing.

01:29:31.000 Mike Adams from NaturalNews.com.

01:29:34.000 He also authorizes us to post the wonderful material from that at InfoWars.com.

01:29:37.000 We love the great work he's doing.

01:29:39.000 Mike, I look forward to having you back in studio soon.

01:29:42.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:29:42.000 Always great to join you.

01:29:43.000 Take care.

01:29:44.000 Great having you on.

01:29:44.000 We'll be right back.

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01:33:18.000 But I look forward to having him up for a full hour in the near future, perhaps to even take more of your phone calls.

01:33:23.000 He's Porter Stansbury.

01:33:25.000 He's got a long bio, but he's made a lot of incredible predictions that Barron's has called and others have called a dire prophecy.

01:33:32.000 Even the Wall Street Journal has written articles.

01:33:34.000 We've got those linked up on InfoWars.com.

01:33:37.000 Amazed by how accurate his predictions are.

01:33:40.000 And I want to give you the website and it's linked in banners up on Infowars.com where you can watch a free video presentation that Porter put together.

01:33:50.000 But I wanted to have him back on to really quantify this for people so that Folks understand what dollar devaluation and the de-pegging of the dollar as the world reserve currency really means.

01:34:03.000 I mean, people hear Glenn Beck talk about it.

01:34:05.000 They hear people discuss it.

01:34:06.000 They laughed at us a decade ago when they got rid of Glass-Steagall.

01:34:10.000 And we warned people what was going to happen with Economist.

01:34:13.000 I mean, this is really common sense, as Porter has said, but the media has tried to deny common sense.

01:34:18.000 Now they're having to admit it, but they're still not telling people how serious this is going to be.

01:34:22.000 Porter, from your deep research of this and the video, End of America, the number three dot com, that's one word, End of America, the number three dot com, to watch that free presentation that's so valuable and it's got a lot of solutions as well.

01:34:34.000 I mean, quantify what this means for people.

01:34:38.000 Well, Alex, thanks for having me back on.

01:34:41.000 One of the things I'm trying to do is just raise some awareness about the magnitude of this problem, because I think people have heard this a couple times over the years.

01:34:49.000 Remember back in the early 90s, the government shut down for a couple weeks, and there were some issues about, oh, our debt's getting out of control.

01:34:56.000 People were aware of the problem.

01:34:58.000 But then it kind of goes on the back burner again, and now it's back on the forefront, because the deficits are really soaring again, so now people are worried.

01:35:06.000 But the problem is, from my point of view, Alex, is that the numbers have now gotten so large that there is no plausible way that we can ever repay the debt.

01:35:16.000 And that leads our government to one solution, which is to print lots of new dollar bills to pay our obligations.

01:35:24.000 The only way we can pay for them is by inflation.

01:35:26.000 And just so you'll know the extent of the problem, If you look at the income tax and the corporate tax from the last year that was collected, that was the tax that the federal government got.

01:35:37.000 If you doubled that, if you increased the actual revenues by 100%, it still wouldn't have covered our deficit from last year.

01:35:44.000 So, there is no way that we're going to be able to contain these deficits.

01:35:50.000 And obviously, if you can't contain the deficits, you're never going to repay the principal.

01:35:54.000 And the total liability today, right now, Alex, for all the government's debts, and for all of the things the government has promised to give people, like Medicare and Social Security, all of our future liabilities, the total bill per taxpayer is now over a million dollars.

01:36:12.000 So how many of those taxpayers are actually going to ever be able to finance their million dollar obligation to the federal government?

01:36:18.000 And how will any of that money ever actually get paid?

01:36:21.000 And that's what I'm trying to warn people about.

01:36:24.000 There is no way these debts can even be financed.

01:36:27.000 And if you can't finance the debts, then you have to start printing money.

01:36:31.000 And that's where we are right now today.

01:36:36.000 And the cartel that controls our planet, these big financial institutions that have run us in the ground, the Madoff, Kinley types, I mean, they could care less because they're going to be left with all the loot.

01:36:47.000 We're going to be left with all the debt.

01:36:50.000 I talked about quantifying it.

01:36:53.000 You talk about it becoming clear that we've lost world reserve currency this year.

01:36:57.000 About a week after you were on, the Russians and Chinese officially started doing trade between each other in the Chinese currency.

01:37:05.000 We see gold and silver rocketing back up.

01:37:07.000 I mean, when do you see it?

01:37:09.000 I mean, you've pointed out the dominoes have already fallen.

01:37:13.000 It's kind of like a corpse that's cooling off right now, or starting to go into rigor mortis.

01:37:17.000 But, I mean, how do you see those phases?

01:37:19.000 How do you see it becoming more evident?

01:37:21.000 I mean, what's it going to look like on the street?

01:37:23.000 What does it mean to the average person to lose the dollar's World Reserve currency?

01:37:27.000 I can't tell you how many people on the street have said, Alex, I see your show, I hear it.

01:37:30.000 But, you know, I'm not in the stock market, or why should I care?

01:37:34.000 Why should they care?

01:37:35.000 Well, you know, Alex, a great example of how this affects people every day in their lives is look what's happened to the price of gasoline just in the last couple months.

01:37:44.000 It's gone back above $3 a gallon, at least where I buy gas here on the East Coast, and I think that's probably true nationwide.

01:37:51.000 On average, the gas is now above $3 a gallon again.

01:37:54.000 How did that happen, Alex?

01:37:55.000 Our economy hasn't grown.

01:37:57.000 Demand for gasoline hasn't changed appreciably.

01:37:59.000 And yet, the price of gas has gone from already from the low $2 range all the way back over to $3.

01:38:05.000 Well, one of the top... I'm sorry to interrupt, Mr. Porter, but you're right.

01:38:10.000 One of the top Shell execs said it's going to be $5 in the next year.

01:38:14.000 It will be.

01:38:15.000 What's funny, of course, is that the American people are going to rail against the oil companies, and they're going to blame them for higher gas prices.

01:38:24.000 The oil companies have nothing to do with the global price of gasoline.

01:38:28.000 That's set by the supply of oil, it's set by the value of the dollar, and it's set by the amount of refineries.

01:38:34.000 They haven't built a refinery in the United States since 1975.

01:38:37.000 So, you know, there isn't a very large increase in the ability to convert oil to gas.

01:38:43.000 That's one problem with the gas price.

01:38:45.000 But by far the bigger problem is that the value of the dollar is collapsing.

01:38:49.000 You know, you see the price of gas go up by 50%.

01:38:52.000 You see the price of gold double in two years.

01:38:54.000 You see the price of silver triple in two years.

01:38:57.000 When are people going to wake up and say, oh, you know what?

01:39:00.000 There's some downside to all this quantitative easing.

01:39:02.000 There's some downside to this creating trillions of dollars to bail out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac so that Americans can still have cheap mortgages.

01:39:09.000 There are downsides to this government policy of runaway debts and money praying to pay for it.

01:39:14.000 And the number one way it's going to affect people is in the grocery store and at the gas pump.

01:39:19.000 And I promise you, you know, corn is at a new record price, and I'm sure the farmers think that's great.

01:39:24.000 But you know what?

01:39:26.000 There's going to be a big problem for a lot of people, especially the people who are on food stamps.

01:39:30.000 Yeah, a lot of folks say, well I don't get ears of corn.

01:39:33.000 Corn is a filler in almost every processed food.

01:39:36.000 That's right.

01:39:37.000 And think about this.

01:39:38.000 There are 40 million Americans today, not in the future, today, on food stamps.

01:39:42.000 What do you think they're going to do when the price of food doubles again next year and they can't afford to feed their families?

01:39:48.000 You think they're just going to sit in their government subsidized apartments calmly while they can't feed their children?

01:39:53.000 No way!

01:39:54.000 You know what's going to happen?

01:39:55.000 There's going to be a huge problem with crime in the cities and with people rioting and demanding more money for food.

01:40:00.000 By the way, Porter, I've got reports all over the country in major cities, doubling of rapes, doubling of robberies.

01:40:07.000 I've got CNN articles today.

01:40:08.000 It's already happening.

01:40:10.000 Yeah, and you know, these things are really, truly just the beginning.

01:40:14.000 And people have still, they have no idea what has already been baked into the cake.

01:40:20.000 I mean, you cannot, you cannot spend, if you're the federal government, next year you're planning to spend $4 trillion.

01:40:25.000 $4 trillion you're planning to spend.

01:40:28.000 You've only got taxes to cover about 25% of that.

01:40:32.000 That's $3 trillion going to be added to our budget next year alone.

01:40:37.000 Sooner or later, creditors are going to go, forget it.

01:40:39.000 We're not going to do this anymore.

01:40:42.000 And then the only thing left to do is going to be totally to supply all that money by printing.

01:40:46.000 Right now, the quantitative easing currently underway is $600 billion, which is a lot.

01:40:51.000 That's why the prices of everything are going up.

01:40:53.000 But when that $600 billion goes to $1 trillion of quantitative easing, or $2 trillion of quantitative easing, things are going to get out of control really quickly.

01:41:03.000 Now, you also write extensively, and I'm reading over it, it's just excellent advice, about ways people can protect themselves.

01:41:11.000 And I know you can't individually diagnose people, you can just give them general systems that have really, you know, worked in the past.

01:41:17.000 You've got a wide range of, you know, deep newsletters and analysis and information.

01:41:22.000 People can find out more by going to EndOfAmericaTheNumber3.com and Watching the free video we're linking through on banners we have up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:41:32.000 But how do people protect themselves from this unraveling?

01:41:37.000 Well, there's three things that you have to do.

01:41:40.000 Number one, you have to own real money, which is gold and silver.

01:41:44.000 You have to own real money because as the global monetary system collapses, because it's all based on the dollar, if that all falls apart, gold and silver are going to be the only things that really hold their value and will allow you to buy anything else you need.

01:41:57.000 And then the number two things are you have to invest in energy and agriculture because those global systems are going to be the ones that are most harmed by the ongoing inflation.

01:42:06.000 Just one quick note just to point out to you that what I'm saying is happening right now.

01:42:11.000 If you look just in the last three months, shares of Monsanto, which is the big seed company that a lot of people don't like because they use genetic engineering in their seeds, and some people are very afraid of that.

01:42:24.000 I'm not commenting on whether or not that's a good or a bad idea.

01:42:26.000 I'm commenting on the fact that farmers around the world buy that seed because it's very productive.

01:42:31.000 Their share price has gone from $45 to almost $70 in the last three months.

01:42:36.000 There is no plausible explanation for that kind of a move in that big of a company unless you know that inflation is coming to agriculture.

01:42:45.000 Well, all the financial experts and economists we've had on have been saying for two years that this inflation was going to accelerate right around 20%.

01:42:54.000 And now I see the headlines.

01:42:57.000 45% increase in rice, 50% in corn, 30% in this.

01:43:03.000 I mean, it's going up across the board.

01:43:05.000 And when I've studied hyperinflation throughout history, Porter, am I right in saying that the further you get along, the faster it moves?

01:43:13.000 Exactly, because the only way to deal with, you know, these rising prices are now going to cause more credit problems.

01:43:21.000 It's going to cause more deficit spending.

01:43:23.000 It's kind of a cycle that builds on itself, Alex.

01:43:26.000 And, you know, you can guarantee that the government is not going to say no.

01:43:30.000 We have to put a stop to this.

01:43:31.000 We have to let companies go into default.

01:43:34.000 We have to let banks fail.

01:43:35.000 We have to stop spending money we don't have.

01:43:38.000 And a democracy that's never going to happen because there is no political organization that stands for sound money and sound policies.

01:43:47.000 You've got the Republicans who want to cut taxes.

01:43:49.000 You've got the Democrats who want to spend.

01:43:51.000 And if you look at the deal they just cut last month, you see what did they agree to do?

01:43:55.000 They agreed to cut taxes and spend more.

01:43:58.000 That's exactly the opposite of what we need to happen, and that's what's causing, that's the root of this problem.

01:44:03.000 There is no political consensus in this country to have sound money and to have balanced budgets.

01:44:11.000 Well, still, if you talk to the average yuppie about having sound money, getting rid of the Federal Reserve, they laugh at you.

01:44:17.000 It's a type of brainwashed, received knowledge to giggle at anyone that warns them.

01:44:23.000 Again, even Glenn Beck gets attacked for warning people about this.

01:44:27.000 And so, we're looking at some people that are really going to be helpless.

01:44:31.000 What do you predict they're going to do?

01:44:33.000 I'm worried about the government.

01:44:35.000 Forming them into a zombie army to push for total government, total taxation of the middle class to feed them during this crisis.

01:44:45.000 I'm not saying that you're wrong about that, Alex.

01:44:47.000 That might happen.

01:44:48.000 But what I'm saying to you is that that will not solve the problem.

01:44:51.000 If you doubled the tax revenues from last year, we still would have had a deficit.

01:44:57.000 You cannot solve this fiscal problem by raising taxes.

01:45:01.000 It cannot be done.

01:45:02.000 The only way to solve this problem is by drastically reducing the government overhead.

01:45:07.000 And we both know that'll never happen in this country because more than 50% of the people that vote don't pay taxes.

01:45:15.000 So, there is no way this set of incentives, this structure we have right now in our government can survive.

01:45:22.000 And the way it will be destroyed is through a massive inflation that is underway right now.

01:45:27.000 As far as the yuppies laughing about people saying we need to have sound money, we need to have money backed by gold and silver.

01:45:32.000 Let me tell you what, it's the greatest lie that has ever been told.

01:45:36.000 We convinced American people over the last 50 years that a piece of paper was more valuable and better than gold and silver.

01:45:44.000 That is incredible.

01:45:46.000 It's never happened before in history that the World Reserve currency was backed purely by nothing.

01:45:53.000 And people are going to learn an enormously painful lesson, that you can't have money that's backed by nothing, because pretty soon all you're going to have is nothing.

01:46:03.000 Well, I wish you were wrong, but history is replete with examples.

01:46:06.000 Every economic indicator shows you're 100% right.

01:46:09.000 And Porter, I have to agree with you.

01:46:11.000 Not because your information is like some type of crystal ball prediction.

01:46:20.000 It's as you've said.

01:46:21.000 This is the facts.

01:46:22.000 This is the reality.

01:46:25.000 Yeah, I wish I was wrong, too.

01:46:27.000 In fact, if your listeners want to look at the video I've made about all these issues to get to the details of it, you're going to see me saying repeatedly, look, this is the fact.

01:46:37.000 I didn't make this number up.

01:46:41.000 The U.S.

01:46:42.000 federal spending really is $4 trillion.

01:46:45.000 And total income tax and corporate tax revenue really is only $1 trillion.

01:46:50.000 So all these numbers are there for people to consider.

01:46:54.000 But the problem, as I see it, is that people don't realize that we have finally reached the point where you can't just kick the can down the road because the rate of increase of the size of these debts and the financing costs have become sort of parabolic.

01:47:12.000 I mean, the total national government debt, the federal debt, has doubled since 2007.

01:47:17.000 And as you know, Porter, that's only what's due right now.

01:47:20.000 That's only what's due right now.

01:47:21.000 Not obligations.

01:47:23.000 For those who don't know, the website to see the free video is endofamerica3.com and Porter Stansbury predicted the collapse of GM Fannie Mae years before it happened.

01:47:37.000 Freddie Mac and America's biggest mall owner General Growth Properties a few years ago.

01:47:41.000 In fact, Barron's called his work a dire prophecy.

01:47:45.000 Again, even the Wall Street Journal, many other publications, Kitco, say this guy's got some of the most accurate predictions out there.

01:47:51.000 But as Porter has said, this isn't one of his big, you know, complex predictions based on, you know, a whole bunch of data.

01:47:59.000 This information is all right out there in the open for everyone who wants to know the truth.

01:48:06.000 And I happen to agree with him.

01:48:08.000 There is not the political will or the education or the lobby out there That wants to stand for saving our economy.

01:48:17.000 These are cutthroat offshore corporations that are all greedy to consolidate their bottom line and out of crises, because they know what's coming, they're pre-positioned, they're going into all the raw materials for at least five years, into the farming stocks, into all these areas that we've been telling you to get into, and

01:48:40.000 Porter, what's going to happen as things really start to unravel faster and finally the dumbed-down masses figure out where the good investments are?

01:48:48.000 Will those not create super bubbles?

01:48:51.000 I tell you what, Alex, my real fear, and I understand this sounds alarmist and I wish it didn't, but my real big fear actually relates to oil and gas prices and the federal food stamps programs because You know, I don't think it's going to be very long at all before gas is over $5 a gallon.

01:49:11.000 And when people can't afford to drive to work anymore, and when people can't afford to buy groceries anymore with food stamps, you're not going to just have a financial problem, you're going to have a really big societal problem.

01:49:22.000 And, you know, it's already happening in places like Atlanta.

01:49:25.000 I don't know if you know this or not, but, you know, MARTA is the big public transport system in Atlanta.

01:49:30.000 And because of the fiscal crisis, they've had to cut the number of routes and the availability of the public transportation.

01:49:37.000 And that's resulted in a lot of people not being able to get to work.

01:49:41.000 And so you see that now the airport workers, a lot of them have to sleep in the airport at night just to be at work the next morning because the buses don't start running until 7 o'clock instead of the use of start, you know, at 5 in the morning.

01:49:53.000 So you're already beginning to see at the edges these things fraying, you know, these things coming apart.

01:49:58.000 And by the way, it's 43 million people now on food stamps.

01:50:01.000 I mean, it's growing.

01:50:02.000 Right, yeah.

01:50:03.000 I mean, it's just, you know, there are only roughly about 100 million American households.

01:50:08.000 So you've got to think to yourself, are 40% of the households in America on food stamps?

01:50:14.000 What has happened to our country?

01:50:16.000 You know, this whole big lie, Alex, that we could all live at the expense of our neighbors, that somebody should pay for our mortgage, that someone else should pay for our food, somebody else should pay for our gas, all this stuff.

01:50:28.000 I mean, it's just a giant lie.

01:50:30.000 And it's all falling apart right now on the cold reality that we cannot finance our debts anymore.

01:50:36.000 I want to talk about generally what you're recommending people to protect themselves, but it's all covered in more detail at endofamericathenumber3.com.

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01:50:50.000 Right now, if you want to go check it out, watch the video, send the link out to folks because we need to face up to what we're in the middle of.

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01:53:56.000 Folks, we're back live.

01:54:08.000 We've got two-time Super Bowl champ from the Dallas Cowboys, Mark Stipnoski, joining us with a big announcement coming up in the next hour along with an engineer to talk about some 9-11 issues.

01:54:22.000 But I'm going to hold our guest five minutes into the next hour with us because it's impossible to have Porter Stansbury on for just 30 minutes.

01:54:29.000 There's so much I can talk about with this guy.

01:54:31.000 I had him on for an hour and a half a few weeks ago.

01:54:34.000 But Porter, I was asking you during the break, what do you want to cover?

01:54:37.000 Solutions?

01:54:38.000 But I know those are so technical, folks should go check out the video.

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01:54:45.000 Uh, or do you want to get into some of the things you see that are going to unravel?

01:54:49.000 And you said, how about a little bit of both?

01:54:51.000 Uh, let's get into the municipal, uh, situation.

01:54:55.000 Those are already going bankrupt all over and it's only accelerating.

01:54:59.000 Yeah, I don't think really people understand the scope of the municipal debt problem.

01:55:04.000 I was talking with a guy whose name I can't share with you, it was a confidential interview, but I can tell you that he was the head of the muni desk at Citigroup for the past 20 years, and he personally brokered $20-30 billion worth of high-yield municipal debt.

01:55:20.000 I mean, you want to talk to a guy who knows where all the bodies are buried, this is the guy.

01:55:24.000 And what he told me was not surprising, really, but it clarified what the problem is going to be.

01:55:29.000 The problem won't necessarily be with what they call the general obligation bonds of the states and the cities, because those bonds are going to be pretty well protected by tax revenues.

01:55:38.000 But even though those are pretty safe, that's not even most of the debt that's out there.

01:55:44.000 Most of the debt that's out there are these project bonds, where if a government wanted to build like a shopping center or a parking garage or a football stadium, something like that, they would issue these bonds that were not backed by the state.

01:56:00.000 They were only backed by the revenue of that project.

01:56:04.000 All these bonds are defaulting, and it's kind of like the equivalent of subprime debt and housing, these project bonds that state and various municipalities issued.

01:56:13.000 And they're going to be a huge problem.

01:56:15.000 And here's what's funny, you'll get a kick out of this.

01:56:16.000 A lot of these bonds have the same structure as actual subprime debt, meaning that they have a variable interest rate component to them, so that as interest rates go up, all these bonds are going to default.

01:56:26.000 And this is going to cause an enormous problem.

01:56:28.000 That's a $3 trillion market.

01:56:31.000 And so, you know, no one really knows what the solution is, but I can tell you this.

01:56:35.000 If you are an investor in immunity bonds, you have to know whether or not you have these project bonds in your portfolio.

01:56:42.000 And there's really no good way to find out.

01:56:45.000 And what does it mean for people that are retired firefighters, police, teachers, city workers?

01:56:50.000 I mean this is gonna, it sounds like we haven't seen one one one hundredth of the crisis.

01:56:56.000 No, we haven't.

01:56:57.000 I'll give you a great example.

01:56:59.000 You probably know that they built a huge new football stadium up in New Jersey in the Meadowlands Complex area.

01:57:04.000 Yes!

01:57:04.000 Okay?

01:57:05.000 They just built a huge new stadium.

01:57:06.000 Did you know this?

01:57:07.000 They never paid for the old stadium.

01:57:10.000 All of the debt that was outstanding to build the old stadium is still in place.

01:57:14.000 Not a single penny of the principal was ever repaid, and the taxpayers of the state of New Jersey are still paying interest on the old stadium debt.

01:57:23.000 So they built a new stadium without even finished paying for the old stadium.

01:57:26.000 And this is a quintessential example of how municipal finance has gone on all across the country.

01:57:34.000 And that's just one of tens of thousands of counties and cities and towns and all the debts they've racked up.

01:57:42.000 I mean, we're in trouble.

01:57:45.000 The next year, this is going to be the biggest financial story.

01:57:49.000 And of course, it's just a prelude to what's going to happen.

01:57:52.000 Because Alex, you can know what's going to happen, right?

01:57:55.000 The states are going to come in and guarantee all this project debt.

01:57:58.000 Because if they don't, they're going to get completely excluded from the credit markets forever, and the state will go bankrupt.

01:58:03.000 Sooner or later, though, a state will go bankrupt.

01:58:05.000 My bet is Illinois.

01:58:06.000 And they're going to lose their credit rating, then the cost is going to go up.

01:58:10.000 It's just going to be a domino.

01:58:12.000 And guess who's going to have to come in and save the states?

01:58:14.000 Federal government, then they're going to lose the credit rating, then the cost of debt goes up even more, compounding it. 0.99

01:58:21.000 Yeah, so guys like you and me are going to end up having to pay for all the idiocy of Chicago, and all the idiocy of New Jersey, and all the idiocy of California. 0.99

01:58:29.000 Are we going to stand for it? 1.00

01:58:33.000 We better not.

01:58:33.000 Stay there, Porter.

01:58:35.000 Man, I wish we had 10 hours with this guy.

01:58:37.000 Unbelievable.

01:58:38.000 On air, online, and on demand.

01:58:44.000 We are the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:49.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.

01:58:53.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

01:58:56.000 As we're finishing off this agenda, that we're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.

01:59:01.000 We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

01:59:08.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?

01:59:10.000 Bernanke?

01:59:11.000 They're arsonists!

01:59:11.000 They're asking for more matches!

01:59:12.000 to pay attention.

01:59:12.000 Fall of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.

01:59:16.000 The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.

01:59:23.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.

01:59:25.000 They're asking for more matches.

01:59:26.000 And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?

01:59:29.000 Today seems like nobody does care.

01:59:31.000 And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the republic.

01:59:36.000 Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at Infowars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.

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01:59:56.000 Big Brother.

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02:00:05.000 Government cover-ups.

02:00:07.000 You want answers?

02:00:09.000 Well, so does he.

02:00:11.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:00:15.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:22.000 If you just joined us, we're talking to Porter Stansberry, an amazing financial analyst, and he's stating the facts.

02:00:30.000 The states, the counties are already bankrupt.

02:00:33.000 We haven't even seen but a very small portion of the iceberg.

02:00:39.000 The federal government's bankrupt.

02:00:41.000 It's already losing its AAA rating with the Chinese and others.

02:00:45.000 When that becomes official, we'll be like Greece or Ireland.

02:00:49.000 Then, tomorrow, we'll go up even more.

02:00:52.000 And we will become like Argentina or Nigeria, and notice that Will Ferrell's new movie at the end of it, it's about corrupt bankers, says the answer is, tax the top 2%.

02:01:03.000 They don't tell you that the top 2% are people making over $200,000 a year, most of them.

02:01:08.000 Those are the people that actually still buy stuff, that still have employees.

02:01:11.000 It's the mega-rich that are actually pushing all this against the middle class.

02:01:15.000 Porter, you were talking about, will we stand for this?

02:01:18.000 What's your take on it?

02:01:20.000 You know, I don't have that answer.

02:01:23.000 It's not just a financial problem, but the solution has to be political.

02:01:28.000 And I don't know how you solve these problems when, again, more than half the people out there don't pay any federal taxes.

02:01:35.000 So it's to their incentive to vote for more spending.

02:01:39.000 And I don't know how you win a political contest, a popularity contest, by promising people they're going to get a lot less from the government.

02:01:47.000 Well, in a republic this would be illegal, but in a democracy, two wolves and a sheep, the two wolves are going to vote to eat Porter Stansbury.

02:01:55.000 That's right, that's right.

02:01:56.000 I suggested in my newsletter recently that people should get as many votes as they have paid dollars in taxes.

02:02:02.000 And that would change the incentives of the structure pretty tremendously.

02:02:06.000 Of course, that will never happen, but it gives you a sense of how warped the incentives right now are in our democracy.

02:02:13.000 Well, that's why we're in trouble because the big money, the Hollywood people are getting ready to burn the middle class when it's the big mega elite that have actually gotten all the power out of this.

02:02:24.000 It's just so frightening.

02:02:26.000 I guess the only answer is all we can do is try to inform people, but also protect ourselves.

02:02:31.000 And you've got a huge team of experts and analysts.

02:02:34.000 It's all covered in the free video.

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02:02:39.000 Just, you know, the number three.

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02:02:43.000 And Porter, I should have asked you this earlier because we're almost out of time.

02:02:46.000 Is there a number for people that aren't online if they want to call and find out about all the amazing research and different newsletters and information that Stansbury Research has available?

02:02:57.000 Alex, I'm sorry, but no, you know, we really sell our stuff online.

02:03:01.000 I don't have that number.

02:03:03.000 I understand.

02:03:04.000 Folks should get to the library then, or they should get to their neighbors, because this is invaluable info.

02:03:09.000 Again, endofamerica3.com.

02:03:10.000 End of America as we know it.

02:03:14.000 Porter, in a minute and a half, what are some basic solutions for the average person?

02:03:18.000 The most important thing to do, Alex, is real simple.

02:03:20.000 You have to own some real money.

02:03:22.000 And that means gold bullion and silver bullion.

02:03:25.000 And, you know, you don't have to get fancy.

02:03:26.000 You don't have to buy the rare coins.

02:03:28.000 Just go buy some regular gold and silver bullion.

02:03:31.000 Put it someplace safe.

02:03:33.000 And then if you have a lot of assets, you want to do some investing, I highly recommend becoming a little bit of an expert in agriculture and energy.

02:03:42.000 So that means a lot of the new gas resources, a lot of the new kind of oil companies that are beginning to produce onshore in the United States, and that means, of course, you know, large seed companies and other kinds of ag businesses that are well run and managed.

02:03:57.000 And, you know, those are the focuses right now of the newsletter that I write for Stansberry Research.

02:04:02.000 Well, I was reading stuff you wrote four years ago saying, get into agri, and that's been a great investment, one of the only things that's been good other than gold and silver.

02:04:10.000 Yeah, it's been our focus for some time because we've been afraid of the risk of this kind of inflation.

02:04:18.000 And we've been following the numbers for a long time, as you know, that's what led us to avoid the disasters and the banks and with General Motors and stuff like that.

02:04:25.000 But all this debt that was causing all those corporate problems has been shifted onto the U.S.

02:04:30.000 Treasury and it has never been repaid and it's not going away.

02:04:34.000 Porter Stansbury, I want to get you up for a full hour very soon.

02:04:37.000 We really appreciate you coming on on short notice today.

02:04:40.000 The website to see the free video is End of America, the number three, endofamericanumber3.com.

02:04:46.000 Porter, have a great new year.

02:04:47.000 We know it's going to be a crazy one next year.

02:04:49.000 God bless you.

02:04:50.000 Okay, thanks, Alex.

02:04:50.000 Thank you so much, Porter.

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02:07:56.000 Music From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:08:06.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:08:09.000 Well, Tony Zambotti, Tony Zambotti, a mechanical engineer and part of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 a mechanical engineer and part of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, now with over 1,200 members worldwide as our guest, along with somebody else who really doesn't

02:08:39.000 He's been a guest on this broadcast before.

02:08:42.000 He's a great lover of liberty, former American football offensive lineman in the National Football League, Mark Stepnoski, career in the NFL, spent with the Dallas Cowboys, where he won, what, two Super Bowls, and, of course, five-time Pro Bowler Doesn't get any better than that.

02:08:57.000 And it's great having Mark with us.

02:08:59.000 But I'll tell you, not only did I grow up in Dallas and a fan of the Dallas Cowboys growing up, I have to admit now that all I do is fight the Globalists. 0.99

02:09:06.000 I can't even really enjoy a football game anymore.

02:09:08.000 All I think about is this stuff.

02:09:10.000 But I'm even a bigger fan of Mark.

02:09:12.000 Not just for his determination on the football field, but how that same spirit translates into standing up many years ago when it wasn't as popular to talk about 9-11 truth.

02:09:21.000 But he saw the evidence, he did it.

02:09:23.000 And the same thing goes for our engineer friend, Mr. Zam Bode.

02:09:29.000 Now, they're going to make a big announcement here today.

02:09:32.000 Mark Sipnoski stepping up to the plate yet again.

02:09:34.000 I'm honored that...

02:09:36.000 Five, six months ago, they launched the Building What campaign here on this show.

02:09:41.000 And my listeners donated the lion's share of the original money to put the Building What campaign, dealing with Building 7 that nobody knows about, on New York TV.

02:09:50.000 Since then, it's been covered by hundreds of newspapers, dozens and dozens of international TV networks.

02:09:57.000 Geraldo Rivera has now Had Mr. Zambotti and also one of the fathers of someone who died on his show and said that now he sees the 9-11 truth, Bob McElvenny, that now this should be investigated and that he's suspicious of Building 7.

02:10:16.000 But even more, and this was covered by CNN even, this was covered by George Soros' people attacking the show and attacking him and calling for his firing, Judge Andrew Napolitano.

02:10:27.000 The co-host of Glenn Beck on his TV show, the guy with his own show on Fox Business with Lou Dobbs, came on this show without my prompting a month ago and said the official story of 9-11 is impossible and that it should be seen as the JFK assassination as a fraud.

02:10:45.000 And the system has come after him and you notice he hadn't been fired because this is becoming the mainstream view.

02:10:51.000 We have major polls like the New York Times, Angus and Reed, where 83% don't believe the official story.

02:10:57.000 Kennedy assassination polls are upwards of 90 percent, believe the official story is a lie, and it's because of people's courage, like Andres Fambulo, the former head of German defense, coming out and saying it was an inside job.

02:11:11.000 The former Italian president coming out.

02:11:13.000 The number three in the Japanese government coming out on this show saying inside job.

02:11:18.000 Because of so many family members and prominent people and emergency first responders and police officers that survived, The evidence is coming out.

02:11:27.000 Six of the ten 9-11 Commission are saying it's all a lie and a fraud.

02:11:31.000 Mr. Farmer, they had lawyers saying it's a quote criminal cover-up by the Pentagon.

02:11:36.000 Ventura coming out, his show.

02:11:39.000 I mean, and believe me, they've gone through a lot of harassment and intimidation over that.

02:11:43.000 Homeland Security's trying to shut the show down.

02:11:45.000 You heard Ventura two weeks ago break the news here that they have banned the Police State episode.

02:11:50.000 I mean, this is a big issue.

02:11:52.000 And it's about honor, it's about courage.

02:11:54.000 And so, Mark Stepnoski, do you want to make the announcement here on the show today of what you've announced you're going to do this week?

02:12:03.000 Certainly, yeah.

02:12:04.000 I've pledged $10,000 to this second round of the Building What campaign in order to pay to have these commercials appear on the air again in New York City.

02:12:16.000 So, you know, hopefully Your listeners will respond like they did before and be willing to put a little bit of their money into the pot and try to do what corporate television won't do and that's show this building collapse on TV so that people can get a look at some of them for the first time and maybe it'll affect their judgment about what happened that day.

02:12:41.000 Now, Mark, and then I want to get Tony's take on this.

02:12:45.000 For those that don't know, because we're on so many Eminem stations, there's new folks tuning in to this for the first time right now.

02:12:51.000 What does the Building What campaign deal with?

02:12:54.000 Why is it called Building What?

02:12:57.000 It deals solely with Building 7, the third tower.

02:13:02.000 It collapsed on 9-11 at about 5-20 in the afternoon.

02:13:08.000 The people responsible for this campaign and for getting these television commercials on the air is NYC Can, New York City Coalition for Accountability Now.

02:13:21.000 They attempted a couple years ago to have this issue considered by the City Council of New York.

02:13:29.000 They wanted to present this issue, have witnesses, and Somehow spur a separate investigation by City Council in New York.

02:13:42.000 And during that time period, when one of the members of NYCAN mentioned Building 7 while addressing the judge for the city, his comment was, Building what?

02:13:54.000 Because, like many people, apparently he wasn't familiar with that building or the fact that it collapsed that day.

02:14:05.000 That kind of, in a nutshell, crystallizes public opinion about this issue and the lack of information and the lack of awareness about what happened to Building 7.

02:14:16.000 So, that is how it became the name of the campaign.

02:14:19.000 Well, it's beautiful, and we're going to give folks the URL out in a moment to the Building What website.

02:14:24.000 We're also going to play the original ad.

02:14:26.000 But Mark, I'm telling you, this campaign was a lot more successful than I even thought it would be.

02:14:32.000 When I asked my listeners, you know, if they believed in it to donate, to it up front with that original seed money than others joined in.

02:14:40.000 I wasn't sure it would have any effect at all, but I knew that laying down would certainly be ineffective.

02:14:47.000 I mean, what's the old saying that winners never quit and quitters never win?

02:14:53.000 Or you can say it the other way, that quitters never win and winners never quit.

02:14:59.000 But certainly now it's caused a chain reaction.

02:15:02.000 BBC, RT, Al Jazeera, Fox, CNN, and it clearly spurred courage for Geraldo Rivera.

02:15:12.000 I won't play it again because of time constraints, but he said, wow, I've now met with a family who lost their son.

02:15:18.000 These engineers, Building 7, very suspicious.

02:15:21.000 This needs to be looked into.

02:15:23.000 I'm suspicious.

02:15:24.000 This is legitimate.

02:15:25.000 And then Napolitano on Fox, of all places, to step up with even more courage, and now they've tried to get him fired.

02:15:32.000 We need to stand with him.

02:15:33.000 I mean, this isn't a game here, but I'm really very surprised and very happy at just how effective the Building What campaign has been.

02:15:42.000 So I want to salute everybody involved with it, and of course you, Mark, and Mr. Zamboni, and everybody else, because we're having an effect here, and the system's got to be scared.

02:15:54.000 Mark, what's your take on that?

02:15:56.000 Well, I agree.

02:15:57.000 I think the people at NYC can deserve a lot of credit.

02:16:02.000 They have worked hard on this issue for years.

02:16:04.000 They have refused to let this issue die.

02:16:08.000 That has mainly come about as a result of the dedication Not only the family members, the remaining family members who are involved with NYSECAN, but all the other institutions and all the other groups of people that are involved.

02:16:21.000 The firefighters, the pilots, like you mentioned, the architects and the engineers, former military and intelligence people.

02:16:31.000 There's a whole lot of credibility behind this movement and it's not Yeah, you have all the different areas represented.

02:16:40.000 You have people whose family members were involved.

02:16:43.000 You have people whose background involves expertise in these areas.

02:16:47.000 Everyone who has reason to be skeptical has joined forces in this group to come together.

02:16:55.000 to kind of pierce the censorship bubble that has existed around, you know, the collapse of Building 7.

02:17:01.000 As you mentioned earlier, internationally now, for several years, there has been quite a bit of skepticism about the official story of 9-11, and there have been people around the world in leadership positions who have spoken out and have expressed their skepticism.

02:17:19.000 I think, fortunately, what this campaign has done here in New York It's kind of enabled that to happen to a certain extent in America because of the media blackout regarding some of the truths of September 11th.

02:17:39.000 I think the public and certainly some politicians have been slow to react compared to what's going on in other countries.

02:17:49.000 But fortunately, it looks like thus far, these commercials have served as an impetus to get people to kind of shrug off their apathy and address this issue and look at it with new eyes, so to speak.

02:18:04.000 And, you know, hopefully try to do something about it.

02:18:07.000 So it's almost like some big offensive lineman breaking open a hole so that the truth, that running back, can run right through and get a touchdown.

02:18:17.000 Well, that's the thing.

02:18:20.000 When you have the truth on your side, it's only a question of time before it comes out.

02:18:25.000 I mean, if you have dedicated people who feel strongly about this issue, who are not going to go away, they have, like I said, for many reasons, a lot of people involved behind this campaign have a lot of incentive to see it succeed.

02:18:44.000 And fortunately, all that dedication and years of hard work is yielding some results right now, which is very encouraging.

02:18:55.000 And that's why I continue to be involved because, you know, in light of the effect that this has had, everybody who is part of it would certainly like to see it continue.

02:19:06.000 Well, we're going to come back with Mark Stepnoski and, of course, Mechanical Engineer Tony Zambotti.

02:19:12.000 Just absolutely amazing.

02:19:14.000 We'll also look back at Building 7 and why it's so important and the key to exposing the cover-up and the fraud that is 9-11 and how 9-11's now been used for the naked body scanners, the threat fusion centers, the police state, all these illegal wars.

02:19:29.000 And we're the building what campaign is going next.

02:19:32.000 It's had a huge effect, and we've never been making this much progress for 9-11 Truth.

02:19:37.000 The system is really scared.

02:19:40.000 We'll also talk to Mark and Tony about why they have the courage to go public.

02:19:44.000 You know, why they're doing it.

02:19:45.000 I mean, I know why deep down.

02:19:46.000 I can answer their question for them, because they can't stand corruption.

02:19:50.000 They can't stand lies.

02:19:51.000 They have a sense of justice.

02:19:53.000 We'll discuss it all with these patriots on the other side.

02:19:56.000 Stay with us.

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02:23:56.000 They will not force us.

02:24:06.000 They will stop degrading us.

02:24:14.000 They will not control us.

02:24:21.000 The truth.

02:24:21.000 We will be victorious.

02:24:29.000 And hey, we've had Bellamy and Mewes on.

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02:24:32.000 Only news links on the Mewes website.

02:24:34.000 Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.

02:24:38.000 I'm not bragging.

02:24:39.000 I'm saying look at the effect.

02:24:40.000 How many other great people of courage are stepping up and standing out?

02:24:44.000 Matt Bellamy at concerts has talked about Inside Job, worn Terror Storm t-shirts promoting my film.

02:24:51.000 As more and more prominent people, Willie Nelson, the list goes on and on, stand up with courage, it's over for the system.

02:24:58.000 It's over!

02:24:59.000 And more and more people can now have courage standing on the shoulders of people like Mark Stepnoski.

02:25:05.000 Again, two-time Super Bowl winner, five-time pro bowler, NFL Cowboy Center.

02:25:12.000 We've also got Tony Zambotti, mechanical engineer, part of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, waking up Geraldo Rivera, chain reaction into Judge Knapp.

02:25:23.000 Very exciting!

02:25:25.000 In this brief segment, we're going to hold you guys throughout the hour, and I appreciate your time.

02:25:28.000 I want to play the Building What ad, give out the website.

02:25:31.000 It's buildingwhat.org.

02:25:33.000 Running through to the end of the year, the next three days, today, Thursday, and Friday, he's giving $10,000, and he hopes to match those that give $10,000.

02:25:43.000 I'm told our listeners gave about $30,000 the first time we did this.

02:25:46.000 That sounds like a lot.

02:25:47.000 It's not.

02:25:48.000 But those few ads in New York, because the ad's effective, Well, I watched the Towers come down live at work.

02:25:53.000 you this first, Tony, before we come back to Mark Stipnoski.

02:25:57.000 What made you as an engineer start questioning and what's your whole view of 9-11?

02:26:04.000 Well, I watched the towers come down live at work.

02:26:08.000 We were in a design review when we heard that there was a first and then a second plane hit.

02:26:13.000 At a break time, of course, we went up to the cafeteria.

02:26:15.000 Most big companies have TVs in the cafeterias and we're watching the towers while And, uh, you know, next thing you know, one comes down South Tower and then a half hour later to North Tower.

02:26:28.000 And I'm just, I was shaking my head, uh, wondering where all the energy came from.

02:26:33.000 I'm not saying I was suspicious.

02:26:35.000 It just didn't seem right.

02:26:37.000 And coming home from work that night, I heard about Building 7 and, uh, That just perplexed me.

02:26:44.000 And I'm thinking it had to be right up next to the tower.

02:26:46.000 It's been completely gutted.

02:26:47.000 They said there was diesel fires in it they couldn't put out.

02:26:50.000 It just didn't seem right.

02:26:53.000 You know, knowing they described the size of the building.

02:26:56.000 And in case anybody doesn't know, most people should know, but they really need to think about it.

02:27:01.000 I use the football field mark as an analogy here.

02:27:05.000 Imagine being on a football field.

02:27:07.000 That's how big that building was in plan, an area.

02:27:10.000 Each floor is a football field in size.

02:27:13.000 And you would have a large column every five yards on the perimeter.

02:27:18.000 Then you'd have the same size columns.

02:27:21.000 From the 20-yard line to the 20-yard line, and then three abreast, another 24 in the middle.

02:27:28.000 And imagine that thing coming down at free-fall acceleration for 105 feet.

02:27:33.000 This thing was 610 foot tall.

02:27:35.000 It's immense, immense.

02:27:38.000 I don't think people really fully appreciate it when they see the film, the immensity of this building.

02:27:44.000 In most cities it'd be the biggest.

02:27:46.000 In Austin it'd be the biggest.

02:27:49.000 It'd be the second biggest building in Dallas.

02:27:51.000 Well they're saying in 33 states it would be the biggest building.

02:27:54.000 But it's not just the height, Alex.

02:27:57.000 It's the immensity, the size, the football field in width and length.

02:28:03.000 And then 610 foot tall.

02:28:05.000 That's a humongous building.

02:28:07.000 It's absolutely immense.

02:28:09.000 And for that to come down at free-fall acceleration, it went into, it was like it went over a cliff.

02:28:15.000 And it's not moving, and all of a sudden, boom, it goes into free-fall acceleration.

02:28:20.000 That's impossible.

02:28:21.000 And by the way, NIST had denied for nine years, or eight and a half years at the time, that there was free-fall.

02:28:28.000 Now they've had to admit there was free-fall, because under Newtonian physics, as you know as an engineer, it's impossible unless they blew it.

02:28:35.000 That's right.

02:28:36.000 They played a couple games.

02:28:38.000 First of all, they only measured two points.

02:28:40.000 They took an average.

02:28:41.000 And David Chandler, a physicist from California, forced them to admit the free fall, which they admit to as part of it.

02:28:48.000 They have this 5.4 seconds that they say their model comes down in.

02:28:52.000 It comes down to the 29th floor, the first 18 stories you can see, and then it's cut off in the view because of a building in front of it.

02:29:00.000 But they say that first 18 floors came down in 5.4 seconds, but in reality it was 3.9.

02:29:08.000 So they were 40% over.

02:29:09.000 And they did that because that's all they could get their model to come down in.

02:29:13.000 So their model doesn't replicate the failure.

02:29:14.000 Their model never goes into free fall.

02:29:17.000 So, you know, it was, whether it was an attempt at subterfuge or not, it was incorrect.

02:29:25.000 And they did not replicate the failure.

02:29:26.000 And if anybody that's seen, and they can see it in this model on the buildingwatch.org website, their model doesn't look like what you see in the video at all.

02:29:36.000 And there's tremendous deformation of the building at the top.

02:29:39.000 All right, Tony, stay there.

02:29:41.000 Mark, stay there.

02:29:41.000 We're going to come right back, play the Building 1 ad.

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02:33:09.000 Thomas Jefferson.

02:33:11.000 It's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:33:17.000 A lot of people early on, when I was talking about 9-11 and how they were planning to blow up the World Trade Center two months before it happened, and then on the day that it happened, when I was talking about the controlled demolition, they said it's so rude.

02:33:28.000 It's, well, I mean, the truth isn't rude.

02:33:32.000 The truth is the truth.

02:33:33.000 Buying into a fable that is then used to destroy our republic and our freedoms, and have an iron curtain of tyranny lower down over the planet, that is not Something that's obviously good for society.

02:33:46.000 Only the truth will set us free.

02:33:50.000 And the truth is there are many governments, the Russians, our own, that it's been declassified of staged terror attacks.

02:33:59.000 And regardless of who you think was really behind it, we know the official story is a lie, is a fraud.

02:34:06.000 And if we don't expose this fraud, then the system is going to continue to use it to bring in a new dark age of control.

02:34:15.000 Talking to Mark Stipnoski, Mark, when did you first start, I think I first interviewed you like four or five years ago, but when did you first start to question the official fable of 9-11 and why did you decide You know, a guy who'd made tens of millions of dollars, very successful, successful in business, you know, great family.

02:34:32.000 What made you decide to take that plunge and do something that you knew that you could be attacked for?

02:34:37.000 I was skeptical of events the day it happened.

02:34:44.000 I don't say that, you know, to try and sound like a know-it-all in retrospect, but I say that because leading up to that point, Throughout my life, I had read a lot about the Kennedy assassination, and the Iran-Contra affair, and the Murrah building blowing up in Oklahoma City.

02:35:04.000 I'd read a lot about those historical events throughout my life.

02:35:09.000 And, you know, I'd studied them, and kind of became aware of the inconsistencies in all those stories, and how, you know, what the truth was, was not something that was highlighted in corporate media.

02:35:22.000 So, as I watched the events unfold that day in 2001, I felt much the way Tony did, although, admittedly, I am no expert and don't claim to be.

02:35:34.000 But just watching that second tower go down that day, looking at the television, I said to myself, that doesn't look like that's from any kind of fire.

02:35:45.000 You know, I mean, just even myself, a layperson, right, a professional football player at the Just logic could tell you by watching that on TV that that was an explosion, that was a building disintegrating into powder in front of your eyes that was obviously not from a fire.

02:36:03.000 So my thinking was just to wait and see if the system would I would correct this issue.

02:36:16.000 As time went on, and you'd like to think that any kind of structures within government that are built to detect and ferret out corruption and bring people to justice, you'd like to see those mechanisms go into effect.

02:36:33.000 And it appeared to be that way when the 9-11 Commission was first put together, although it was obvious with how long it took and how little money was given to it that it was never really a serious attempt to get to the bottom of things.

02:36:47.000 And then once the Commission was finished and the former members spoke out, that view was cemented and everybody realized that it was just a cover-up.

02:36:56.000 So honestly, having the misgivings that I originally had and knowing what I knew about previous events where the public was not told the truth, it got to the point where it became apparent that, you know, Certain mechanisms were not going to kick in, and the system was not going to correct itself.

02:37:17.000 It became obvious that this corruption was going to go unpunished, and that, as you said, this event was going to be used as a pretext for a whole agenda that was put in place, you know, prior to September 11, 2001.

02:37:30.000 So I just reached the point where, like many other concerned citizens who have donated far more time and effort than I have, After researching the event, reading about it online or in books, or going to see people give presentations, you know, speakers who don't believe in the official story, All this kind of added up to me just wanting to do something about it myself, just as any concerned citizen would do.

02:37:59.000 You know, if you're somewhere, you know, you want your voice to be heard, you want to believe that you live in some semblance of a democracy, It was just a case of putting my money where my mouth is.

02:38:12.000 Well, if you see something, say something.

02:38:14.000 But it's like this airline pilot sees that the airports are wide open for everybody but the pilots and passengers.

02:38:20.000 He puts out a video.

02:38:22.000 They raid his house.

02:38:24.000 Now there's going to be a congressional investigation.

02:38:26.000 Now the feds are backing off the pilot's courage.

02:38:29.000 We learn they only want us not trusting each other and spying on each other.

02:38:34.000 They don't want us seeing buildings blown up in front of us to use our own common sense.

02:38:39.000 But to use the football analogy, which I use a lot, not just when I have a two-time Super Bowl champ on with me, I can clearly say now that they were winning nine years ago.

02:38:52.000 About three years ago, we began to fight back and started to turn the tide.

02:38:58.000 But I have to say 9-11 Truth wasn't winning.

02:39:02.000 Until about the last year or so, and now this buildingwhat.org campaign I think has really been a game changer, Mark.

02:39:12.000 What's your take on that?

02:39:14.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:39:15.000 I think it's, you know, it's had a definite impact, and that's the reason why the people involved chose to continue, because they could see the effect that it was having.

02:39:26.000 They were certainly getting bang for their buck, and they were accomplishing what they originally set out to do, which was to have this demolition shown on TV, I believe, on the day of September 11th.

02:39:39.000 It was shown once and never shown again.

02:39:43.000 So it's just a case of getting it out there and educating the public.

02:39:47.000 You know, people who have not seen this building go down, who some are not even aware of it, can now look back on it with a different perspective, with maybe a little bit less emotion clouding their judgment.

02:40:03.000 Now that they're a little bit removed from that day and can respond and view something more with logic and less with just gut reaction, maybe people will be a little bit more willing to open their eyes.

02:40:17.000 Well, here's the $64 million question.

02:40:19.000 I want to throw it to you, Mark, and then, of course, to the engineer, Tony, who's here with us.

02:40:26.000 But not just their overall agenda of global You know, militarism and takeover that they've gotten through this staged event that Operation Northwoods previously discussed, where the Pentagon lays out why they want to stage big attacks on the homeland to be blamed on foreign enemies.

02:40:42.000 If we don't expose the favorite tool of tyrants, false flag terror, that Hitler used in 33 to really become a dictator, firebombing his own Reichstag, if we don't expose this, the system's going to do more in the future. 0.82

02:40:56.000 I mean, they're not going to stop unless we break Well, that's true.

02:41:03.000 I mean, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

02:41:05.000 And when you have people who, you know, they have the military hegemony that the U.S.

02:41:10.000 has now throughout the world, when you have ownership of the corporate media and you can control the message and censor any information that might come out, And that's what you will get.

02:41:22.000 You will have democracy being subverted.

02:41:25.000 It is up to people like those in New York, in NYC can, and all the groups, you know, like I said, firefighters, pilots, architects, engineers, when I live in truth.

02:41:37.000 It is up to those people to be involved in truly what is a citizen's movement.

02:41:43.000 You know, this is, I'm proud to be involved because it's a grassroots movement.

02:41:48.000 You know, it's I empathize with the people that had family members die that day.

02:41:53.000 That could have been any one of us.

02:41:55.000 Those people were just victims of circumstance, and now their family members are left with a bunch of unanswered questions.

02:42:01.000 That could be any one of us.

02:42:03.000 If any one of us was in that situation, we would be doing the same thing.

02:42:07.000 You know, some people were, in a sense, bought off by the settlement money that was paid out to family, the remaining family members.

02:42:16.000 But there's a small percentage that was not.

02:42:19.000 They've continued to fight and to push this issue because they don't want to let it go because they know that they're being lied to.

02:42:28.000 So it's just, like I said, I'm happy to be a part of it.

02:42:33.000 And, you know, sometimes I get the attitude from people that, hey, you know, he's just the next football player.

02:42:38.000 What does he know?

02:42:39.000 And I tell people, fine, don't believe me.

02:42:42.000 Don't listen to me, because there are people far more educated in this area than I am who have every bit as much, if not more, skepticism than I do.

02:42:51.000 If you don't want to believe me just because I'm a guy who used to play football, that's fine.

02:42:55.000 Yeah, what about the German, former German defense minister, the former head of German intelligence, the former Italian president?

02:43:01.000 What about all these thousands of architecture engineers?

02:43:03.000 What about all the police and firemen I've talked to and medics who heard the Building 7 countdown?

02:43:09.000 I mean, what about the police on video saying, get back, they're going to blow up 7?

02:43:13.000 I mean, it's all right.

02:43:15.000 They're in front of us, and then you get into all of the other evidence.

02:43:18.000 That's why this Building What campaign is so important.

02:43:22.000 BuildingWhat.org.

02:43:25.000 We've got it up on screen for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

02:43:28.000 But before we go back to that, I want to play the original Building What ad.

02:43:32.000 And this all started because they were trying to go to the city of New York to have a ballot initiative.

02:43:38.000 For a new investigation.

02:43:39.000 They're at the city level of 9-11.

02:43:41.000 And their petitions got thrown out.

02:43:43.000 And the judge said, building what?

02:43:46.000 When they brought up building 7.

02:43:47.000 So that was the genesis of the building what campaign.

02:43:51.000 Here is the public service announcement with family members of 9-11 victims.

02:43:56.000 Here it is.

02:43:57.000 I lost my son, my nephew, my uncle, my son on September 11th, 2001.

02:44:01.000 Most people don't know that a third tower fell on September 11th.

02:44:05.000 World Trade Center 7, a 47-story skyscraper, was not hit by a plane.

02:44:09.000 Although the official explanation is that fire brought down Building 7, over 1,200 architects and engineers have looked into the evidence and believe there is more to the story.

02:44:19.000 Bring justice to my son, my uncle, my nephew, my son, and thousands of others who died on September 11th.

02:44:24.000 Go to buildingwhat.org.

02:44:27.000 BuildingWhat.org and Mark Stepnowski is going to give $10,000 to this.

02:44:32.000 He hopes that you will match him.

02:44:34.000 I know that I'm going to give a donation today and again I get nothing from this except the truth and a future for my children.

02:44:41.000 Mark doesn't.

02:44:42.000 All of this is going for these TV ads.

02:44:45.000 I hope you will give generously because We have seen a huge effect, because this is very effective.

02:44:51.000 At first it shows Building 7 falling, something most people haven't seen.

02:44:55.000 The media never wanted to cover it then or afterwards.

02:44:57.000 I mean, you never hear about Building 7 in the media.

02:45:00.000 But it also shows victims.

02:45:02.000 Now, I've had some of the heads of the biggest 9-11 victims' families on the show.

02:45:07.000 I'll get them on about Other issues with 9-11.

02:45:11.000 And in every case, I say, what percentage of your group believe it's an inside job?

02:45:16.000 And they say more than half.

02:45:18.000 And I've been on the streets and had firemen and police Shake my hand.

02:45:23.000 The majority of them.

02:45:24.000 I've had commanders salute me when I've been down there.

02:45:28.000 The cops know.

02:45:29.000 The firemen know.

02:45:30.000 They know. 0.97

02:45:31.000 They're not stupid. 0.53

02:45:32.000 They know that they were told the air was safe to breathe and internally the EPA knew how deadly it was. 0.93

02:45:38.000 I mean, they've been fighting for nine years to block health care.

02:45:42.000 Well, I just wanted to say, I wanted to repeat what I said on Gerardo's show, that there's an absolute proof.

02:45:51.000 which you want to add or that you want to put out here today for listeners.

02:45:55.000 Well, I just wanted to say I wanted to repeat what I said on Gerardo's show, that there's an absolute proof.

02:46:01.000 You know, I tend to try to follow, and I think what the Building What campaign is doing is, you know, the KISS principle, keep it simple and straightforward.

02:46:10.000 And Building 7 does that.

02:46:13.000 And like I said on Gerardo, it's impossible.

02:46:16.000 It's absolutely impossible.

02:46:17.000 I can't stress that enough.

02:46:19.000 for that building to go in the free fall acceleration in a natural way.

02:46:24.000 For 8 stories, 8 13-foot-tall stories, or 105 feet.

02:46:28.000 Because when columns, in a natural collapse, columns would have to buckle.

02:46:33.000 And when columns buckle, there's a minimum resistance.

02:46:36.000 It's what we call asymptotic.

02:46:39.000 You guys probably saw this in school.

02:46:40.000 It's when the curve comes down and never drops down to the x-axis in an xy graph.

02:46:46.000 And in this case, the buckling resistance is significant.

02:46:50.000 It's not even near zero.

02:46:52.000 It's 10 to 25% of the intact strength.

02:46:55.000 So what I want to say there, it's not just 10 to 25% of the resistance because you have a factor of safety.

02:47:00.000 The columns in Building 7 were anywhere from 3 to 5 was the factory safety.

02:47:06.000 In other words, they could support a load above them that was 300 to 500 percent greater than what they actually had on them.

02:47:13.000 So when I say it retained 10 to 25 percent of its impact strength, that means even if they were buckling, completely scissored, folded, they could still support a load that was 30 to 75 percent of the load that was on them.

02:47:26.000 That means it can never go to free fall.

02:47:29.000 Completely impossible.

02:47:29.000 So let's say one level did buckle, it wouldn't have been symmetrical, A. B, you would have had it collapsing in chunks.

02:47:39.000 It would have taken time for each floor to collapse.

02:47:43.000 And there's another area that I know you can quantify, I forget the exact term they use, but the pile was too short.

02:47:51.000 These things had been blown into manageable sections, just like a controlled demolition.

02:47:58.000 Right, a lot of people say that, but what NIST tried to say is that they had an internal failure on the east side, the east penthouse went down, and that internal collapse progressed from east to west completely, and then all of a sudden the entire exterior shell, which was standing on its own prior to that, comes down in free fall.

02:48:16.000 Well, that's impossible, because they try to say, Alex, that it's a multi-story buckle, That's very, very unlikely to have happen with that complete sheet because those column connections on the outside columns were moment-resisting.

02:48:31.000 The whole space is not going to buckle.

02:48:32.000 And in addition to that, if the east side was coming down inside and the outside and the whole thing came down, why wouldn't the east side X perimeter come down before the west side.

02:48:44.000 Why wait until the whole building, the whole interior was down before the whole building to come down?

02:48:49.000 That's not what happened.

02:48:50.000 What really happened, find that East Penthouse came down a little.

02:48:53.000 That was dropped for some reason.

02:48:55.000 But then the whole interior was dropped just a split second.

02:48:59.000 And you watch the top, the HVAC area, the parapet up on top, the heat exchangers.

02:49:06.000 That area just dips in the middle.

02:49:08.000 It's a little past the middle of the building.

02:49:11.000 then the whole exterior drops.

02:49:13.000 It goes into a sudden collapse.

02:49:15.000 Well, sir, from structural engineers I've talked to, and then I've seen the Las Vegas implosions, with that design of a building, you want to blow the central columns first, so that when you blow the others, it doesn't fall out and damage other buildings.

02:49:27.000 That's right.

02:49:27.000 You want to lean into the center, so it drags in, it just puts a little force on the outside, pulls it inward a little bit, so that everything comes down with a little bit of an inward pull, and then comes straight down.

02:49:38.000 That's exactly why it's done.

02:49:40.000 What you just said is exactly why it's done.

02:49:43.000 It was, in fact, the largest classical or traditional controlled demolition in history.

02:49:52.000 It was a masterpiece.

02:49:53.000 They tried to blow up the Intel building here in Austin.

02:49:55.000 It was a modern building they never finished because Intel had financial problems.

02:49:58.000 They built it in 99, blew it up just a few years ago, and they failed.

02:50:03.000 Mark, I mean, again, it's just, it's hidden in plain view, Mark.

02:50:07.000 Yeah, I'd like to get back to something that Tony said about just keeping it simple.

02:50:12.000 There's never been a building collapsed due to fire, ever.

02:50:17.000 You know, when you look at what NIST is trying to say and, you know, everything else, They're trying to get people to accept an impossibility.

02:50:27.000 It's physically impossible.

02:50:30.000 Tony can back me up on this.

02:50:31.000 I'm sure we'll get a much more educated opinion.

02:50:35.000 Diesel fires that we're burning in Building 7 are carbon-based fires.

02:50:39.000 The carbon-based fires cannot get hot enough to melt steel.

02:50:43.000 It's physically impossible.

02:50:44.000 You're absolutely right.

02:50:45.000 Mark, stay there.

02:50:46.000 Final segment.

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02:54:03.000 Good job.

02:54:05.000 We've had so many guests on today.

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02:54:18.000 You got cut off by the break.

02:54:20.000 You had another point you wanted to make, Mark, about the Magic Bullet.

02:54:25.000 Well, yeah, I just, um, as far as, you know, being told to believe a physical impossibility, you know, the linchpin, I'm glad you brought up the Kennedy assassination, because the linchpin of that argument is the magic bullet theory.

02:54:39.000 And that's an absurd theory.

02:54:41.000 A bullet cannot behave the way that bullet was described to behave.

02:54:47.000 So, you know, if you're going to believe the official story of the Kennedy assassination, you're asked to believe a physical impossibility.

02:54:54.000 And the same thing holds true for Building 7 and 9-11 in general.

02:54:59.000 You know, a steel building has never collapsed from fire.

02:55:04.000 If you go online, you can see examples of other buildings in different countries throughout the world that have burned for hours and hours and not come down.

02:55:13.000 That's why they build buildings out of steel.

02:55:15.000 That's why Your fireplace is made out of steel because you put wood in there.

02:55:20.000 Wood is a carbon-based fire and it can't get hot enough to burn steel.

02:55:24.000 So, to be told that this building just got hot enough from, you know, diesel fires and collapsed, It is a modern-day magic bullet theory.

02:55:36.000 It's like the magic building theory.

02:55:38.000 Ooh, I love that!

02:55:39.000 The magic building theory!

02:55:41.000 You have to believe that this thing came down, but in reality, you know, whether it's jet fuel or wood or anything that was burning in that building, diesel, fuel, that's a carbon-based fire and it cannot get hot enough to melt steel.

02:55:58.000 It's just impossible.

02:55:59.000 Let me back you up on that a minute, Mark.

02:56:01.000 Sure.

02:56:02.000 If you would.

02:56:03.000 The reason a lot of people say, when you tell people fire can't melt steel, a lot of people don't understand why.

02:56:09.000 And scientifically, I just want to say real quick why.

02:56:14.000 You can melt steel in a blast furnace, but that's because you have pure oxygen.

02:56:18.000 A pure oxygen environment allows you to get to 3,000 degrees centigrade.

02:56:26.000 But you're only, the byproducts are carbon, it's water, I think, carbon dioxide molecule, or monoxide.

02:56:35.000 You're only heating up two additional molecules, which takes energy, if you have to heat them up.

02:56:42.000 In air, you have one third of the oxygen you would normally have, or a little less, actually.

02:56:48.000 And then you also have to heat up several molecules of nitrogen.

02:56:54.000 when you have a fire, an diffuse flame fire.

02:56:57.000 Yeah, but everybody knows their stove doesn't melt when they cook stuff, and those flames are blue.

02:57:01.000 I'm trying to explain why.

02:57:03.000 You can only get to 1,000 degrees centigrade or 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit because you don't have as much oxygen, and you have to heat up these other molecules, and it's three times more.

02:57:12.000 And that's why you can't get, you can only get one-third of the temperature outside of a blast furnace.

02:57:17.000 And that's why you can't melt steel because it doesn't start to melt It's also about 28 degrees, 100 degrees Fahrenheit, or 1500 centigrade.

02:57:26.000 And you can't get hotter than 1000 degrees centigrade or 1800 Fahrenheit with any hydrocarbon fire.

02:57:32.000 Tony, I hate to interrupt you.

02:57:34.000 We're going to have to do, I guess, five minutes of overdrive.

02:57:36.000 I'll let you both go at five after.

02:57:38.000 We're about to end the official show, but most stations carry this next hour, but I'm only going to do five minutes into overdrive, like I did yesterday, because I do want to spend some time.

02:57:48.000 But I want you to be able to go back, both of you, on the science of this in the next little segment.

02:57:52.000 But now I just want to give the website out.

02:57:54.000 It's building what?

02:57:58.000 And I know I'm putting you on the spot, Tony.

02:58:01.000 Is there a phone number for folks that can't get online?

02:58:06.000 I don't know of one right off, Alex.

02:58:08.000 I can find that out.

02:58:09.000 Well, there's probably one on the website.

02:58:11.000 I should have asked you that before both of you guys came on.

02:58:13.000 But Mark Stepnoski and Tony Zambotti, can both of you stay five more minutes?

02:58:19.000 Sure.

02:58:19.000 Okay, fantastic.

02:58:20.000 Because I don't want to cut you off the middle of your science.

02:58:23.000 I want to be able to also ask Mark about his view of the TSA, because that's all an extension of 9-11.

02:58:30.000 And then I asked him if he knew about Mitalab and the staged event, and of course he did.

02:58:34.000 So informed.

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02:59:56.000 Mark Stepnoski, two-time Super Bowl champ, and of course five-time two-time Super Bowl champ, and of course five-time Pro Bowler, but what he's really known for in my book is having a lot of courage, Just as an aside, we have been contacted over the last five, six years by countless

03:00:25.000 Former and current NFL stars.

03:00:28.000 Mainly NFL for some reason.

03:00:29.000 A few basketball players.

03:00:31.000 And they always want to talk to me off air.

03:00:33.000 And I'm a busy guy.

03:00:34.000 I'm not a hot shot or big shot, but I'm busy.

03:00:37.000 But I've called a few and they just want to thank me and buy a bunch of videos and, you know, sometimes donate.

03:00:42.000 But they're scared.

03:00:44.000 These are big NFL tough guys that I'd be scared of in an alley.

03:00:48.000 But they don't have the moral courage to go public like Mark Stavnoski.

03:00:52.000 And that's what I really admire.

03:00:53.000 People like Jesse Ventura, Willie Nelson, who are famous, they're wealthy, they've got a lot to lose, but they know they've got even more to lose.

03:01:02.000 Uh, if they don't stand up against this evil.

03:01:05.000 If this evil isn't confronted, it's gonna grow and grow and grow like cancer.

03:01:08.000 We did find the phone number, and that brings up another issue.

03:01:10.000 Uh, Architects for, uh, and Engineers for 9-11 Truth...

03:01:15.000 It's helping the operation out of New York with the PayPal and the website building and the infrastructure.

03:01:24.000 And 5% of the donations go to them to fund the infrastructure, 5% to first responders, which I think is great.

03:01:32.000 And then, of course, 90% goes to the ads.

03:01:34.000 So it's buildingwhat.org.

03:01:39.000 And that is so exciting.

03:01:40.000 Please donate today.

03:01:41.000 I'd just like to say thanks for having us on.

03:01:43.000 I appreciate the time to talk about this and obviously anyone who's listening, I would urge them to vote with their pocketbook.

03:01:49.000 Anything else you'd like to comment on Mark Stibnoski?

03:01:52.000 Well, I'd just like to say thanks for having us on.

03:01:55.000 I appreciate the time to talk about this.

03:01:57.000 And obviously, anyone who's listening, you know, I would urge them to vote with their pocketbook.

03:02:04.000 That's one thing you can do nowadays.

03:02:08.000 Your vote might not count for much as far as the Democratic or the Republican Party.

03:02:13.000 Your vote might not count much if it's made on a computer, but if you want to feel like you can actually make a difference, then vote with your pocketbook and try to help get these ads put on TV so that more people can become educated and we can create further awareness about what really happened on September 11, 2001.

03:02:34.000 That's a good question.

03:02:34.000 I honestly don't know if I can give you a good answer.

03:02:36.000 I'm glad to hear it.

03:02:36.000 contacted me is it a different breed i haven't really been contacted by other sports that's a good question um i honestly don't know if i can give you a good answer um i'm glad to hear it uh it's nice to know that other guys in my former profession might feel the same way i do um but it's it's hard to really say uh you know why that is But I'm thankful that that is the case.

03:03:02.000 Yeah, I just wish they'd go public, you know.

03:03:04.000 I mean, it's one thing to say, hey, I appreciate what you're doing, I know the truth.

03:03:09.000 Maybe NFL guys have contacted me because of you.

03:03:11.000 I bet you've kind of led the way in that.

03:03:13.000 I'm kind of answering my own question.

03:03:15.000 By the way, we did find the number, and it's to Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, if you want to donate by phone.

03:03:20.000 It's 510, and I'm reading this from 10 feet away, guys, so make sure I'm saying this right.

03:03:26.000 2-9-2, 47-10, 5-10, 2-9-2, 47-10.

03:03:29.000 I got a big screen TV across the room, and they put websites up, and I'm staring across the hall here.

03:03:39.000 But I just want to thank you both for coming on.

03:03:42.000 We're basically out of time to get into more engineering, but you guys have agreed to come back on together in, say, two, three months to look at phase three of what's going on.

03:03:51.000 We've seen phase one, big victory.

03:03:53.000 Now we're into the second quarter.

03:03:55.000 I just like to thank Mark for his articulateness and I'm very impressed.

03:03:57.000 I appreciate you speaking out from your position, Mark.

03:04:00.000 Thanks a lot.

03:04:01.000 Tony, thanks for being on the show with me today.

03:04:04.000 I'd just like to thank Mark for his articulateness, and I'm very impressed.

03:04:09.000 And I appreciate you speaking out from your position, Mark.

03:04:15.000 Thanks a lot, Tony, and thanks for being on the show with me today.

03:04:18.000 I wouldn't miss a full world.

03:04:20.000 Well, it's like Mark said, the truth will come out in the end.

03:04:25.000 It was Victor Hugo that said if you try to bury the truth, it will explode with such force later, you know, to totally destroy the liars.

03:04:33.000 And no army can stop an idea whose time has come, as Victor Hugo said.

03:04:36.000 Let me say bye to you both here during the break, gentlemen.

03:04:39.000 I salute you and appreciate everybody, especially the listeners.

03:04:42.000 You have made buildingwhat.org TV ad campaign such a huge success.

03:04:47.000 Geraldo Rivera coming out for 9-11 Truth because of it.

03:04:50.000 And no doubt, Judge Knapp said the whole thing's a complete fraud.

03:04:54.000 We salute those men of courage as well.

03:04:56.000 Retransmissions coming up after the break.

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