Alex Jones Show - 20110503_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 This is Alex Jones.

00:00:01.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we are we are live today.

00:00:27.000 Thank you so much for joining us today.

00:00:30.000 It, of course, is the third day of May, 2011, and we are going to be live here for at least the next three hours.

00:00:40.000 Joining us yet again is General Hamid Gul, the former head of Pakistani intelligence, will be joining us coming up In about 35 minutes from now, we also have James Corbett of the Corbett Report joining us to give us his analysis of what's happening with the whole Bin Laden situation.

00:01:06.000 And Owen JJ Stone, a technology commentator, is not buying the official narrative, so we're going to be talking with him as well today.

00:01:18.000 Something interesting has happened in the last 48 hours since the Sunday evening pronouncement of the president.

00:01:28.000 All over the world, people are not buying the official story.

00:01:33.000 And Sunday night and Monday morning, you were laughed at by the mainstream dinosaur-dying, discredited, lying media, if you questioned it.

00:01:43.000 And they acted like it was very kooky.

00:01:46.000 And the Washington Post called me and said, this is like the Elvis.

00:01:50.000 uh, death, people believing he's still alive.

00:01:53.000 And I said, I'm not talking about Elvis and I'm not talking about him still being alive.

00:01:57.000 I said, this is a government that's been caught lying over and over and over and over and over again and manufacturing evidence and engaging in duplicitous activities.

00:02:08.000 So people would be crazy to out of hand, believe this.

00:02:12.000 And then they dumped the body at sea.

00:02:14.000 They claim, and they're going to supposedly show video of that.

00:02:18.000 I guess they've got a wax figurine from Madame Couteau's or whatever her name is, a wax museum.

00:02:27.000 And they're going to throw it in the water. 0.90

00:02:29.000 I mean, this is just ridiculous. 0.91

00:02:30.000 And then they put out the fake photo in the first 12, 14 hours and say it's real. 0.89

00:02:34.000 Then they retract it.

00:02:35.000 Now they've got a new photo coming out.

00:02:38.000 They also admit now that he didn't use his wife as a human shield in the official narrative, that he didn't fight back.

00:02:47.000 And they're telling on themselves for lying so that you'll believe the general story.

00:02:51.000 That's a psychological warfare trick.

00:02:54.000 The whole thing's a lie, guaranteed.

00:02:55.000 The evidence, the stink, the cut of the garment.

00:03:00.000 As I said yesterday, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is out today saying this reeks of a hoax.

00:03:05.000 Cindy Sheehan is saying the same thing.

00:03:07.000 Many government people are saying they don't buy this.

00:03:10.000 And we're really seeing the geopolitical reasons for this shaping up.

00:03:14.000 What they want to do domestically in the West with, oh no, The TSA is validated in sticking their hands down your pants.

00:03:21.000 There's going to be more of this now, not less.

00:03:25.000 And oh, if we go to Central Asia, oh my, the Pakistanis obviously knew bin Laden was there.

00:03:32.000 And so the drone attacks need to start and the aid needs to be cut.

00:03:42.000 And we might have to have war with these people.

00:03:45.000 Funny, in the last month we've had all these guests on, experts, and it's come out in the news that the Saudis have run to Pakistan for their nuclear umbrella.

00:03:54.000 They know they're being double-crossed by the West.

00:03:57.000 The Saudis have cut oil production as a response to the fact that it's now on record that many of the Jihadists being stirred up and funded, are being funded out of the U.S.

00:04:06.000 State Department and out of 10 Downing Street.

00:04:09.000 That's not even debated now.

00:04:11.000 And the Arabs understand they're being double-crossed, the Arab dictators and oligarchies that have worked with them. 0.74

00:04:17.000 And so as soon as Pakistan starts trying to bust the gates and get out of San Quentin, magically all this happens. 0.98

00:04:25.000 So we're going to go over all of it today and the intensifying evidence that it's fraud.

00:04:31.000 But something interesting has happened now.

00:04:33.000 More and more people aren't buying it.

00:04:35.000 We'll be right back.

00:04:46.000 Now you can produce pure and endless colloidal silver and deliver the solution directly into the bloodstream by breathing the solution through the lungs.

00:04:55.000 The respiratory system is the first line of defense for airborne pathogens and viruses.

00:05:00.000 The Silver Lungs Generator infuses the respiratory system with your self-produced nano-silver solutions and also delivers the silver nanoparticles instantly into the bloodstream.

00:05:11.000 With continued legislation threatening the sale of nanosilver products, you can now produce pure and endless colloidal silver with the Silver Lungs Generator.

00:05:21.000 Very easy to follow step-by-step instructions are provided, making production fast and simple.

00:05:26.000 Go to www.silverlungs.com today and learn more about the breakthrough technology of the Silver Lungs Generator.

00:05:34.000 That's www.silverlungs.com.

00:05:37.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.

00:05:46.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

00:05:49.000 As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath the Americans at home.

00:05:54.000 We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

00:06:00.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?

00:06:03.000 Bernanke?

00:06:04.000 They're asking for more matches!

00:06:04.000 They're arsonists!

00:06:05.000 attention.

00:06:06.000 Fall of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.

00:06:09.000 The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.

00:06:15.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.

00:06:18.000 They're asking for more matches.

00:06:19.000 And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?

00:06:22.000 Today seems like nobody does care.

00:06:24.000 And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the republic.

00:06:29.000 Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at InfoWars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:06:40.000 This is Alex Jones with five good reasons you should consider buying a solar power generator.

00:06:45.000 Number one.

00:06:46.000 New climate legislation could easily double or triple your electric bill.

00:06:49.000 Number two.

00:06:50.000 Our new energy czar wants to control how much power your electric company allows you to have.

00:06:55.000 It's true.

00:06:56.000 Total government control of electricity in the name of smart grid technology is coming.

00:07:01.000 In some areas of the country, the power grid is dangerously overloaded.

00:07:01.000 Number three.

00:07:05.000 And now, new socialist legislation is only compounding the problem.

00:07:09.000 Number 4.

00:07:10.000 Dangerous weather is always a threat to local grids.

00:07:12.000 Every year, thousands of families lose their power from weather-related outages.

00:07:16.000 Number 5.

00:07:17.000 A solar power generator provides powerful backup, insurance, and peace of mind.

00:07:21.000 Folks, I really believe in the solar power generators offered by Solutions from Science, one of my oldest sponsors.

00:07:26.000 You can get more information at www.mysolarbackup.com.

00:07:30.000 That's mysolarbackup.com.

00:07:32.000 Remember, the government doesn't own the sun.

00:07:34.000 So go to mysolarbackup.com or call 1-877-327-0365.

00:07:37.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

00:07:44.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:07:47.000 It is Tuesday, the third day of May 20th.

00:07:57.000 We're going to be breaking down all of the different developments surrounding the May Day reported killing of the chief boogeyman, Osama bin Laden, and the fact that all over the global media and domestic media...

00:08:15.000 A lot of people are questioning the dumping at sea, the fake photo they first released, and then later had to admit was fake when alternative media pointed out it was a Photoshop the media put out almost three years ago.

00:08:28.000 We're going to be going over all of it today, but also what we're not looking at while we're busy, obsessed on President Obama kicking off his reelection campaign with this latest fairy tale.

00:08:44.000 What's happening at the U.S.

00:08:46.000 Treasury?

00:08:46.000 Big developments there.

00:08:48.000 What's happening to the dollar?

00:08:49.000 The stock market plunging today.

00:08:53.000 The fact that the neocon media is saying, see, we're going to have five, six, seven dollar a gallon gas.

00:09:00.000 We need to focus on security.

00:09:03.000 And if there's a terror attack, the American people won't be as worried about what's happening to the economy.

00:09:10.000 And if you study this, the global architects that have worked for 90 plus years since 1913 to position the United States into total bankruptcy and receivership to kill our free market system.

00:09:26.000 They really stand to gain from staged terror attacks.

00:09:30.000 And on Sunday night and Monday morning, so many people were saying, oh my gosh, it's great.

00:09:34.000 I can carry my shampoo with me on a trip.

00:09:38.000 I don't have to go buy shampoo everywhere I fly, everywhere I go.

00:09:41.000 I don't have to have the TSA stick their hands down my pants. 0.54

00:09:44.000 I don't have to have them download what's on my laptop.

00:09:48.000 I don't have to answer all their questions.

00:09:49.000 And the media said, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:09:51.000 You don't get it.

00:09:52.000 We're going to have more TSA checkpoints on highways, at bus terminals, at train stations.

00:09:57.000 We're going to be spying on you more.

00:10:01.000 Here are the new four leaders of Al-Qaeda, Lockheed, Gadahn, and the two others.

00:10:07.000 Of the four they're putting on the news, three born in America.

00:10:11.000 All three of them known to be trained at U.S.

00:10:12.000 military bases, hanging out at the Pentagon, protected, running the real attacks in the U.S. 0.99

00:10:19.000 with mentally ill Muslim extremist Patsy's. 0.97

00:10:22.000 We have the eyewitnesses of the U.S. 0.93

00:10:24.000 government getting the underwear bomber on the plane for two years, protecting Major Hassan, knowing the attack was coming, a lockie commanding him.

00:10:33.000 Congress wants the documents.

00:10:35.000 says no.

00:10:35.000 C.I.A.

00:10:36.000 How does C.I.A.

00:10:37.000 say no to Congress and the Homeland Security Committee?

00:10:40.000 Things are upside down.

00:10:41.000 That's the government.

00:10:42.000 That's the Congress with the National Security Act that created them.

00:10:46.000 This is the tail wagging the dog.

00:10:49.000 It's like the U.N.

00:10:50.000 launching the New Libyan War and Obama not even consulting Congress.

00:10:52.000 It's about training you to accept this.

00:10:58.000 And so it's a fact that the hijackers, in quotes, were trained at U.S.

00:11:03.000 military bases, that U.S.

00:11:04.000 embassies in Saudi Arabia were ordered to give them visas into the U.S.

00:11:08.000 even though they came up on the terror watch list.

00:11:10.000 I've interviewed the head of the visa section from Jeddah, Mr. Springman, going back nine years ago now.

00:11:17.000 People say, well, why are you just coming out and saying this is a lie?

00:11:21.000 Why are you coming out and saying that this is a PR stunt?

00:11:26.000 Well, just look at the way it's all crafted and scripted.

00:11:30.000 Just look at it.

00:11:32.000 Look at how it was rolled out.

00:11:34.000 Look at how it's being pushed.

00:11:35.000 Look at the agenda they're piling onto it.

00:11:39.000 But it's not just that.

00:11:40.000 How many times have we been lied to?

00:11:43.000 How many terror attacks have turned out to be fake?

00:11:48.000 How many Pentagon and Joint Chiefs of Staff documents do we have to get where they stage the Gulf of Tonkin?

00:11:54.000 To get us into Vietnam.

00:11:57.000 How many times?

00:11:59.000 How many Operation Northwoods do we have to see?

00:12:01.000 How many WikiLeaks releases of Army training manuals for Black Op Army Captains?

00:12:08.000 Not all Army Captains specialized Black Op Army Captains on how to stage a false flag.

00:12:13.000 They teach these Navy SEALs and Delta Force and Special Ops people how to do dirty tricks, how to stage events.

00:12:24.000 Delta Force, even above the SEALs, where they take the best from the different military disciplines and put them into these fused groups.

00:12:33.000 Delta Force, when they graduate, and this has been declassified, they had to cancel this part of the test because now it's known by people that are trying to get into the Delta Force.

00:12:46.000 At the end of the month-long rigors and the psychological warfare they have to go under to make sure they can't be cracked easily, then they're given Machiavelli's The Prince and they have 12 hours to read it and then write an essay.

00:13:02.000 And if they say the end justifies the means, and you've got to be evil to protect good, and torture is good, and lying is good, because at the end of the day, we're the good guys.

00:13:12.000 That's the devil's trick, folks.

00:13:14.000 Read the Bible.

00:13:15.000 That's pure... Whether you believe the Bible or not, the point is that's always culturally been seen as the main system of deception.

00:13:27.000 That, oh, just be evil for good sake.

00:13:31.000 And if they write the essay and say that they will be evil for good sake, that they will lie for good sake, that they will torture for good sake, that they will dissemble, that they will stage terror attacks, then they go, welcome to the Delta Force Squadron. 0.70

00:13:46.000 Now, if they answer it wrong, they say, we're gonna have you in logistics.

00:13:50.000 We're gonna send you to Fort Bragg and you're gonna basically push pencils all day.

00:13:56.000 See, this is the real world.

00:13:58.000 And when you read the writings of these retired CIA people like Kermit Roosevelt who staged Operation Ajax with staged terror attacks to overthrow the Iranian government in 53, that's declassified.

00:14:08.000 When I've been at events and had CIA guys come over and get in my face and then later, you know, pass messages through people about, you don't live in the real world.

00:14:18.000 You don't know how the world really works.

00:14:19.000 You don't understand what we have to do.

00:14:21.000 We have to be more evil than the other side. 0.99

00:14:23.000 We have to take every system they might use and make it our own or somebody else bad will take control of it.

00:14:30.000 We have to bring the drugs in or somebody else will and then they'll get the money and the power and then that evil group will overtake us.

00:14:37.000 It's circular logic.

00:14:39.000 Oh, is that why you push worldwide to keep drugs illegal?

00:14:43.000 No, if you didn't want Al-Qaeda, Taliban having the opium and making the money off of it, you would decriminalize it so that the price would plummet and then there'd be no business in it.

00:14:55.000 But instead, you go in and boost production and control it, and then think we're so dumb now, because this stuff can't be hidden anymore, that they come out in the BBC.

00:15:04.000 I told you a year before, I saw Geraldo Rivera with the Army, excuse me, Marine Corps Colonel, going, yeah, we help grow it, we give them the opium, we give them the fertilizer, and we help them protect it.

00:15:18.000 I heard BBC with the same narrative about, well, if we don't grow it and help ship it out, Al-Qaeda and Taliban will get the money.

00:15:27.000 And I almost ran off the road, not because I didn't know that, but because they were admitting it.

00:15:32.000 And then I couldn't ever find it on the BBC website, the report.

00:15:35.000 Well, then we did find, because listeners called, the YouTube a year later of Geraldo Rivera going, yeah, America, we grow the opium.

00:15:48.000 You see, because they can't hide it.

00:15:49.000 How many CIA aircraft crashing with cocaine on board?

00:15:53.000 I mean, one of the biggest heads of the drug cartels on trial in Chicago.

00:15:58.000 It comes out in federal court last week, the documents that he said, I work for the U.S.

00:16:04.000 government.

00:16:04.000 He's trying to call witnesses.

00:16:05.000 He's saying, I work for you.

00:16:07.000 How dare you do this to me?

00:16:08.000 How dare you double cross me?

00:16:11.000 That's like how Turner released the documents in federal court when he was threatening judges and people and state judges went ahead and prosecuted him.

00:16:18.000 And the Fed to control the case went ahead and charged him as well and took it away from state court.

00:16:22.000 And in there, he released the documents and the judge released it and it was national security memorandums.

00:16:27.000 He was the highest level national intelligence FBI asset.

00:16:33.000 Well, you could tell he was an FBI asset.

00:16:36.000 He was there to talk about violence every night and get away with it and attack yours truly every day and try to hype up the army of white supremacists that work for the feds and don't even know it, most of them.

00:16:46.000 And I've seen this over and over again.

00:16:47.000 I told you 10 years ago he was.

00:16:48.000 Folks, I know a globalist agent when I see it.

00:16:52.000 I live this stuff, okay?

00:16:54.000 I experience it.

00:16:56.000 I know of what I speak.

00:16:58.000 And so, you have all these declassified instances of where our government, supposed government, has staged events, staged massacres, blamed it on people, going back to Vietnam.

00:17:12.000 The Quiet American is a fictional account, book and film, but it's based on real events that happened.

00:17:18.000 You have the CIA in there, you know, in the late 50s, getting ready for the main war, trying to back up the French, and they're staging terror attacks in markets, blowing kids up to blame it on the communists.

00:17:28.000 I mean, if you want to see it in a fictional way, that tends to wake people up better than reality because they can't deal with reality.

00:17:35.000 Go watch that movie, The Quiet American.

00:17:37.000 And then understand what we're dealing with and stop being naive.

00:17:44.000 The globalists are bringing America down.

00:17:46.000 They're killing the dollar by design to consolidate and to take a wealthy, uppity, powerful, armed ...population and make us servile, broke slaves.

00:17:58.000 It's on.

00:17:59.000 The world government's openly being announced.

00:18:01.000 It's been built behind the scenes, but now they've unveiled it as the solution.

00:18:06.000 Everything is happening right now, geopolitically.

00:18:10.000 And they come out with a, uh, we dumped him in the ocean, and here's a photo.

00:18:15.000 Oh, you noticed that's fake?

00:18:16.000 Okay, we'll give you another photo.

00:18:20.000 Well, you can go rent Forrest Gump and see Forrest Gump shaking hands 15 years ago, and you can't tell it's a fake, with President Kennedy.

00:18:29.000 Folks, it's not real.

00:18:30.000 Forrest Gump's not real.

00:18:31.000 He didn't shake hands with Kennedy.

00:18:34.000 None of it is real.

00:18:36.000 When you see a talking chihuahua on Taco Bell commercials, folks, that's not real.

00:18:39.000 I mean, if you go see the talking rabbit in Hop that looks completely real, you can't tell it's fake.

00:18:49.000 That rabbit is not real, folks.

00:18:51.000 I'm sorry.

00:18:53.000 You can watch Santa Claus computer-morphed movies that are out, and it looks like a real person.

00:18:59.000 It's not real.

00:19:00.000 The Grinch that stole Christmas with, you know, the actor, Carrie.

00:19:09.000 It's not real.

00:19:10.000 And you're going, yes, we know it's not real. 0.99

00:19:12.000 The point is they think you're stupid with this and the timing and the lies and all of it. 0.99

00:19:19.000 We know this is fake. 1.00

00:19:21.000 I mean, it's like.

00:19:24.000 If you get a zit on your face, and you go, that's a zit on my face, it's there.

00:19:29.000 It's proof.

00:19:31.000 Let's see, they won't give you proof.

00:19:33.000 They won't give you the body.

00:19:34.000 It's in the ocean.

00:19:35.000 That's the end of it.

00:19:36.000 Don't debate it.

00:19:37.000 Don't discuss it.

00:19:38.000 And torture, by the way.

00:19:40.000 It's good.

00:19:41.000 Spring and a new growing season are here.

00:19:43.000 Plant a healthy garden easy and fast with OrganicaSeed.com.

00:19:47.000 Easy because OrganicaSeed.com offers one of the largest online selections of organic, heirloom, non-hybrid, and untreated seeds, as well as tobacco and cotton seeds at low prices.

00:19:58.000 Go to OrganicaSeed.com.

00:20:00.000 Spelled O-R-G-A-N-I-C-A Seed.com.

00:20:05.000 OrganicaSeed.com.

00:20:07.000 Remember, OrganicaSeed is healthy seed.

00:20:10.000 Hi, this is Ted Anderson.

00:20:12.000 Have you ever wondered why banks, stockbrokers, investment advisors won't talk about gold IRAs?

00:20:16.000 They've been available since 1986, yet the financial industry won't recognize the value of gold for your retirement.

00:20:22.000 Gold has outperformed paper investments, yet no word about IRAs.

00:20:26.000 If you would like to have gold for your retirement, call 800-686-2237.

00:20:28.000 Don't get left behind by rising inflation and low returns.

00:20:33.000 Call 800-686-2237.

00:20:34.000 Call 800-686-2237.

00:20:36.000 Secure your future and call 1-800-686-2237.

00:20:40.000 Economists, politicians, and even the average citizen can agree we may only be days or weeks away from the next terrible event that could literally change the face of life as we know it.

00:20:50.000 Learn the secrets of the world's top survival and preparedness experts at the DFW Marriott in Dallas, Texas for the 2011 International Survival and Preparedness Conference on Memorial Day weekend, May 28th through 30th.

00:21:02.000 Register at survivalist.com or toll free 866-437-6570 before time runs out.

00:21:06.000 That's survivalist.com.

00:21:10.000 If you breathe, eat, or drink, your body's pH balance is at risk.

00:21:15.000 Micronized activated zeolite is the only product of its kind on the market that can balance pH levels and offset immediate and long-term effects of nuclear fallout.

00:21:24.000 100% natural, safe, and gentle enough for children, animals, and pregnant women.

00:21:28.000 Activated zeolite available at RadiationFix.com or call 619-249-2574.

00:21:32.000 or call 619-249-2574. Radiationfix.com or call 619-249-2574.

00:21:40.000 Hi, this is Alex Jones.

00:21:42.000 The real U.S. 0.67

00:21:43.000 unemployment rate is now 22%, and not 9%, like what we are told by the mainstream media.

00:21:49.000 The primary instinct of unemployed Americans is to go to college and seek a higher education.

00:21:53.000 But all across America, students are graduating with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt and no jobs.

00:21:59.000 Most college graduates are now admitting that they would have been better off getting a job at Walmart or McDonald's than having their lives destroyed by student loans.

00:22:07.000 Our friends at the National Inflation Association are getting ready to release College Conspiracy, the world's most comprehensive documentary ever produced about America's college education system.

00:22:18.000 To be among the first to see College Conspiracy, sign up for the free NIA newsletter today at www.inflation.us.

00:22:25.000 NIA believes that college education is the largest scam in American history.

00:22:29.000 College Conspiracy will expose the facts and truth about the education system here in the U.S.

00:22:34.000 Sign up for free today at inflation.us to be among the first to see College Conspiracy.

00:22:39.000 Don't you just laugh every time the news plays another story about a foreclosure bank or attorney under investigation bankrupted or being sued?

00:22:46.000 Zero Debt has a program that stops foreclosure guaranteed for at least two years without payments or attorneys.

00:22:52.000 In fact, we show our members how to get the banks to pay their taxes and insurance while they stonewall the bank's collection process.

00:22:58.000 We show you how it's possible to quiet the title in your name by using the bank's very own foreclosure process.

00:23:02.000 Loan modification is a joke.

00:23:04.000 The banks use that to take your money with nothing in return and keeping you in default.

00:23:08.000 You've heard our ad before.

00:23:09.000 We are not investors, bankers, attorneys, or real estate agents.

00:23:12.000 We are a group of people just like you that are sick and tired of the housing crash.

00:23:15.000 And we've helped thousands avoid foreclosure since 1993.

00:23:18.000 Get free help now from ZeroDebtGuaranteed.com.

00:23:21.000 Or call to talk with others who have already used our system.

00:23:24.000 We'll show you how to save tens of thousands of dollars by using the foreclosure process to your advantage and save your home.

00:23:30.000 Or visit ZeroDebtGuaranteed.com.

00:23:30.000 Call 800-477-9256.

00:23:30.000 800-477-9256.

00:23:31.000 800-477-9256.

00:23:32.000 800-477-9256.

00:23:35.000 Or visit ZeroDeadGuaranteed.com.

00:23:37.000 Guaranteed to stop foreclosure.

00:23:39.000 I almost got back a little

00:24:02.000 late here in the broadcast chair because I just got the call back from Dr. Steve Pachenik, the number two guy under Henry Kissinger at the State Department who worked with bin Laden, who knows Osama bin Laden.

00:24:20.000 and And he said, Alex, you're doing a very good job.

00:24:23.000 I'm listening to the show right now.

00:24:25.000 Of course, we had him on in 2002 in April.

00:24:30.000 He broke down that the intel that bin Laden was dead and was frozen on ice to be rolled out later.

00:24:35.000 Now, I was then told by two other White House sources the exact same thing, and people couldn't believe it.

00:24:41.000 Even though we had Pchenik on record, then suddenly Madeleine Albright, Walter Cronkite, Theresa Hines-Carrie, and scores of other top Democrats came out and said, Bush, we know you got him frozen.

00:24:50.000 Don't stage his death and roll him out.

00:24:53.000 So they pulled it off the table and waited with that ace card.

00:24:56.000 And you notice Obama's got the same Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates.

00:25:00.000 It's all the same crew.

00:25:01.000 They act like they're fighting with each other.

00:25:03.000 It's staged at that level.

00:25:05.000 And so they've allowed Obama to play this card because geopolitically, Pakistan has teamed up with Saudi Arabia because Saudi Arabia realizes that they're being double-crossed right now.

00:25:17.000 And that most of these Arab Spring activities have been stirred up by the West to try to destabilize the region so they have a pretext to expand the wars.

00:25:25.000 And now it's been admitted, Libya, Egypt, all staged by the West. 0.87

00:25:28.000 Doesn't mean there aren't folks that are angry at these dictators that are also going along with it.

00:25:32.000 The point is the match was struck, the fire was lit by the globalists and that's now incontrovertible, absolute proof.

00:25:40.000 So I just talked to Dr. Pachenek, who has not been on this show since April 2002, he got a lot of heat for it and even called me at the time and said, is there a way to pull that transcript and that audio down?

00:25:57.000 I am getting excoriated at the CFR right now.

00:26:00.000 I'm getting a lot of heat.

00:26:01.000 And I said, sorry, sir.

00:26:02.000 It's basically the horse left the barn a long time ago.

00:26:07.000 But the point is, now he's ready to come back on because he has been vindicated.

00:26:11.000 Benazir Bhutto, the President of Pakistan, came out and said, Bin Laden has been dead.

00:26:16.000 He was killed.

00:26:17.000 And she even said, who killed him?

00:26:19.000 And that was the intel I was given.

00:26:20.000 He was dying of kidney failure.

00:26:23.000 He put out those letters saying, this is not me, and these tapes.

00:26:27.000 Remember this in the news?

00:26:28.000 He said, I did not do this.

00:26:29.000 And boom. 0.96

00:26:31.000 Special Forces went in.

00:26:32.000 This is the intel from folks at the White House.

00:26:34.000 They killed him, and Frozen is signed in.

00:26:37.000 And he was actually killed in the area of Pakistan.

00:26:40.000 He did actually live in that area.

00:26:41.000 In fact, Watson's digging up the old articles from three months before.

00:26:45.000 And I remember him, so Watson's digging them up.

00:26:47.000 He remembers them as well.

00:26:48.000 And he's my literal bloodhound.

00:26:51.000 I remember a news article, but can't remember the 10-year-old headline.

00:26:54.000 He is like a battle-tested bloodhound.

00:27:00.000 And he will ferret it out, we've got that report coming up, where it was in the news that British journalists went to see him and there was British Special Forces guarding him.

00:27:09.000 Ooh, when we dig this out, you guys are in trouble.

00:27:13.000 And so, they had him dead, the word is, within a month after 9-11.

00:27:19.000 And all that stuff about he's in Tora Bora and the Delta Force had him in the sides but they wouldn't let him kill him.

00:27:23.000 They were telling Delta Force, they were telling Army, they were telling the SEALs that.

00:27:27.000 They were telling them that's him but then oh you can't get him.

00:27:30.000 To even create the narrative that it was lawyers, you know, who wanted to be politically correct or something.

00:27:35.000 And that oh they wanted to keep the myth of Bin Laden going.

00:27:38.000 That part's actually true.

00:27:39.000 See they put out propaganda that part of it's true.

00:27:43.000 But I mean, Steve Pchenik, this was the right-hand guy, you know, under Henry Kissinger.

00:27:51.000 He's been on record that he worked with bin Laden when it was the Mujahideen.

00:27:55.000 He knows him.

00:27:57.000 And Pchenik is going to be on with us.

00:27:59.000 Again, he called me back right during the break.

00:28:01.000 I had one minute left.

00:28:02.000 Jared, I actually hung up on him before I gave it back to you.

00:28:05.000 Did you get a hold of Pchenik?

00:28:06.000 He is on at one.

00:28:09.000 That is super news.

00:28:10.000 Okay, so he is on at 1 o'clock today.

00:28:14.000 This is big.

00:28:15.000 Now, I've got General Hamid Ghul on, and then I've got all these other guests.

00:28:20.000 I've kind of had Jaron overbook the show under my orders, because I've got Ghul on for 30 minutes, then I've got Corbett, then I've got J.J.

00:28:27.000 Stone.

00:28:29.000 And I've literally got all of this news and I've got incredible financial news I've got to go over.

00:28:35.000 The first fake photo, they've got more fake stuff coming out.

00:28:39.000 I've got the Washington Post, LA Times, New York Magazine.

00:28:48.000 I saw over 30,000 articles.

00:28:50.000 With the name Infowars or Infowars.com in it.

00:28:54.000 I didn't look at it myself.

00:28:54.000 Google said 30 plus thousand.

00:28:57.000 I could only look at a few dozen.

00:28:59.000 And some of these are actually surprisingly fair.

00:29:03.000 I thought the Washington Post person was being a little sarcastic with me.

00:29:07.000 But it's overall pretty fair.

00:29:10.000 And there's a lot of other articles, the news, that's actually pointing out that all these officials did say he was dead, and that it was being covered up, and that he was going to be rolled out later.

00:29:20.000 So, Brett Bart's going with the fact that it may be a cover-up.

00:29:24.000 The Tea Party Nation is.

00:29:25.000 I mean, folks don't buy anything the government says now.

00:29:29.000 And that's healthy.

00:29:31.000 We're on the march.

00:29:32.000 The Empire's on the run.

00:29:35.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:29:40.000 A very wealthy U.S.

00:29:42.000 citizen is predicting that in 2011, we will witness the most important day in America in more than 50 years.

00:29:49.000 He says it will change everything about our lives.

00:29:51.000 The way you shop, travel, invest, educate your children, and even how you take care of your health and your own family.

00:29:57.000 Now, this man has made some outrageous predictions over the years.

00:30:00.000 The crazy part is, he's usually right.

00:30:02.000 You see, he predicted the collapse of GM, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and America's biggest mall owner, General Growth Properties.

00:30:08.000 In fact, Barron's called his work a dire prophecy.

00:30:11.000 Recently, he created a video, which you can watch online for free, detailing his biggest and most important prediction yet.

00:30:17.000 And it's a real eye-opener.

00:30:19.000 I can't stress this enough.

00:30:20.000 You should at least watch this free video online today.

00:30:23.000 He explains everything you need to know.

00:30:24.000 including simple steps you can take to protect yourself.

00:30:27.000 You can find the video at www.endofamerica3.com.

00:30:32.000 That's endofamerica3.com.

00:30:34.000 Watch the free video at www.endofamerica3.com.

00:30:38.000 That's endofamerica3.com.

00:30:40.000 Over the last year, Alex has told you about and many of you have experienced emergencies and disasters in unprecedented numbers.

00:30:47.000 People have had to literally run for their lives.

00:30:50.000 Folks, this is Steve Schenck with eFoods Direct.

00:30:53.000 I'm not here to scare you, but when disaster strikes, you won't have time to think.

00:30:57.000 You must act automatically.

00:30:59.000 What does a pilot do when the helicopter engine fails in flight?

00:31:02.000 No time to think, just act automatically.

00:31:05.000 When the alert is broadcast, the alarm sounds, or the knock comes on your door, you'll need to be ready to act without thinking of what to do or what you need.

00:31:13.000 You need a 5-Day Extreme Emergency Kit with Go to efoodsdirect.com slash alex or call 800-409-5633.

00:31:18.000 That's efoodsdirect.com slash alex.

00:31:19.000 for five days, this powerful $300 extreme emergency kit is free with an order of at least $995 from eFoodsDirect.

00:31:28.000 Go to eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex or call 800-409-5633.

00:31:34.000 That's eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex, 800-409-5633.

00:31:39.000 You may be arrested and you're subject to other police action.

00:31:44.000 Tyranny is here.

00:31:46.000 The grim future foretold in 1984 has become reality.

00:31:49.000 It really says that the state is God.

00:31:52.000 The United States is now recognized globally as one of the most oppressive police states on Earth.

00:31:58.000 This film conclusively proves the existence of a secret network of FEMA camps, now being expanded nationwide.

00:32:04.000 This documentary exposes how the continuity of government program has established an all-powerful shadow state.

00:32:10.000 Police State 4 chronicles the sickening depth to which our republic has fallen.

00:32:14.000 Prepare to enter the secretive world of emergency dictatorship.

00:32:19.000 Body scanners, sound cannons, citizen spies, stage terror, and cameras on every street corner.

00:32:25.000 It's only the beginning of the New World Order's hellish plan. 0.92

00:32:28.000 The police state isn't coming.

00:32:30.000 It's here.

00:32:31.000 Secure your copy today at Infowars.com or see it online in the highest quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:32:38.000 You can run on for a long time.

00:32:55.000 Run on for a long time.

00:32:56.000 For a long time, run over for a long time, sooner or later, gotta cut you down.

00:33:03.000 And we're cutting the lies down.

00:33:07.000 Well, we see the 2012 kickoff of Obama's campaign.

00:33:11.000 They claim they jumped the body of bin Laden in the ocean.

00:33:15.000 They released a fake photo Sunday night.

00:33:17.000 Yesterday morning had to admit it was a fake photo.

00:33:20.000 Now they've got new fake photos.

00:33:22.000 We'll play just a few seconds of this.

00:33:24.000 They've released, of course, Cartoons showing Bin Laden shooting his AK-47 and the Navy SEALs taking him out.

00:33:34.000 We'll roll some of that in the background right now for folks.

00:33:37.000 This is so cartoonish.

00:33:40.000 And what concerns me more than anything is that our expert guests have broken down here on air.

00:33:49.000 Webster Tarpley, investigative journalist Wayne Madsen, others.

00:33:53.000 We've also seen this in the foreign news, that Pakistan was starting to make deals with Saudi Arabia, that Saudi Arabia knows it's being double-crossed by the West, and that there was going to be big movement in Pakistan.

00:34:05.000 Pakistan said, get your drones out of the country.

00:34:07.000 And then magically this happens, there's this raid, and now they're saying that Pakistan knew he was there for six years, as if Western intelligence wouldn't know that either, and they won't produce the body.

00:34:21.000 This is a serious frame-up, it looks like, of Pakistan. 1.00

00:34:25.000 moving towards serious confrontations.

00:34:28.000 Lieutenant General Hamid Ghul, former head of Pakistani intelligence, really leading the attack on the Soviets in the 1980s, called a hero by our media at the time. 0.94

00:34:37.000 He's been called now by some of our media the real leader of al-Qaeda, which he says is asinine.

00:34:43.000 General Ghul, thank you so much for joining us, sir.

00:34:46.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:34:48.000 I know you have a lot of other media to attend to.

00:34:52.000 We've only got about 25 minutes with you.

00:34:54.000 Sir, you've got the floor.

00:34:55.000 Break down, now that we have some more time, to look at this propaganda move, where you stand and what you believe is happening geopolitically.

00:35:03.000 Well, I think they are targeting Pakistan, and I think Patriots, as it was said by the New York Times, is now gearing up, is limbering up for launching his third offensive against Pakistan.

00:35:18.000 So I think that is where Pakistan is being cornered now. 0.99

00:35:21.000 A case is being built against Pakistan.

00:35:24.000 And they are saying that ISI was harboring this great terrorist.

00:35:29.000 But at the same time, if you look at it professionally, All the time the CIA, the political leadership of America and even all the European countries and their intelligence services were actually putting Pakistani intelligence on the wrong posse by saying that the high value targets were hiding in North Waziristan and that terrain which adjoins with Afghanistan.

00:35:57.000 So they were pounding Pakistani civilians And poor, hapless villagers there, with their drone attacks, with the hell fires, and with their Reaper missiles.

00:36:09.000 So, they have caused something like 2,500 casualties, when the man that they were hunting was actually hiding in one of the urban centers of Pakistan.

00:36:21.000 Now, this is remarkable.

00:36:23.000 I mean, it is not... It's very intelligent.

00:36:25.000 okay, we accept their version, and we say that they are not craving up.

00:36:30.000 And this is not something, although that is a very popular theory here in Pakistan.

00:36:36.000 But if we were to believe every word of what they are saying, then they are more responsible for misguiding Pakistani intelligence, other intelligence agencies, because the CIA and FBI and MI6 had been given free hand in Pakistan to hunt down the because the CIA and FBI and MI6 had been given free hand in Pakistan to hunt And we had caught so many of them, from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to Faraj al-Libi and all the others from the urban centers of Pakistan.

00:37:04.000 So why were they not also responsible for this failure?

00:37:09.000 Agreed that there have been intelligence failures in this intelligence craft.

00:37:14.000 Failures are not something which is outlandish.

00:37:16.000 Sometimes they do happen.

00:37:18.000 But ISI, instead of being lauded for its good work, I think ISI has been scapegoated by the CIA and all the other bigwigs there in America.

00:37:32.000 And they want to now build a case against Pakistan.

00:37:35.000 Although Pakistan really is suffering so much because our sovereignty has been trampled over.

00:37:40.000 Our security has been breached.

00:37:42.000 These helicopters, they had spotted the blind areas in our radar coverage and they came in as if they were the enemies of Pakistan.

00:37:51.000 Now it brings to light that the relationship with Pakistan, America's relationship, Was always one of animosity, not of friendship.

00:38:01.000 And while we were being told that we are friends of America and we are doing everything possible for them, we lost something like 35,000 lives in this process.

00:38:12.000 And we suffered a loss of 68 billion dollars in economic terms only.

00:38:19.000 And everything else that went wrong with Pakistan, the revenge war and so on and so forth. 0.64

00:38:25.000 Pakistan has suffered enormously.

00:38:27.000 But now they tell us that you are responsible for everything.

00:38:31.000 Isn't it amazing?

00:38:33.000 And if, let's say, Osama is the one that they killed yesterday, why did they have to kill him? 0.99

00:38:39.000 He was a sick man. 0.99

00:38:41.000 He could have been hauled up in the helicopter and taken away. 0.96

00:38:44.000 And I imagine they haven't shown the pictures.

00:38:48.000 They used to show the pictures of Saddam Hussein.

00:38:51.000 And they used to show his teeth also inside of his mouth.

00:38:54.000 And they used to rejoice over it.

00:38:56.000 And now when it comes to Osama, they say that dump him in the sea as soon as possible.

00:39:02.000 I think there is a lot that goes unsaid, and I think it has to be an untold story which has to come out one day.

00:39:11.000 And I think a probe must be held.

00:39:13.000 If the American administration is reluctant to hold that probe themselves, Let the international community demand from them that we ignore the 9-11 thing because you said that this had happened to us and we didn't ask for the evidence.

00:39:30.000 But now it's about time that we ask for the evidence.

00:39:34.000 General Gould, you brought up a point that is absolutely central, obviously, here.

00:39:40.000 The saber-rattling began against Pakistan recently, when Pakistan said, enough of the drones.

00:39:46.000 I've interviewed Special Forces troops on air.

00:39:49.000 We've had Colonel Schaefer on repeatedly.

00:39:52.000 We've had calls from listeners.

00:39:54.000 It's been admitted in the news that U.S.

00:39:56.000 troops, CIA, Special Forces, given unfettered access everywhere in Pakistan for now, Many, many years.

00:40:05.000 And the fact that they're blaming Pakistan and saying, you knew he was there for six years.

00:40:11.000 You just threw the gauntlet right back down and said, you were all over this country.

00:40:15.000 You've been directing the Pakistani army into regions to back you up, going into tribal areas, which of course, as you have pointed out, does stir up the population.

00:40:25.000 And then they're called terrorists.

00:40:26.000 And now they have us believe in the heart of your West Point, in the heart of much of your intelligence system, He was there.

00:40:34.000 So, if he was there, basically what you're saying, correct me if I'm wrong, 100% six years, the US, British, Israelis, they knew as well.

00:40:46.000 That's indeed, because I think they have to share the responsibility.

00:40:49.000 They can't shrug it off, because they were the superior partner in this war against terrorism, and they had more resources, far, far, far more resources than ISI ever possessed.

00:41:00.000 So, you were responsible, equally responsible, and besides, you were all the time focusing the ISI, directing them towards the Northwest Frontier Province. 0.52

00:41:09.000 Why were you doing this?

00:41:11.000 They always get away.

00:41:14.000 They never are answerable.

00:41:17.000 They were never answerable for 9-11 because no heads were rolled at that time.

00:41:22.000 None from the Air Traffic Control, none from the FBI, none from the CIA.

00:41:27.000 And none from the Air Force, which took 112 minutes to come into action.

00:41:32.000 Can you imagine?

00:41:34.000 They killed Osama Bin Laden, if at all that was Osama Bin Laden.

00:41:37.000 I don't believe.

00:41:37.000 There are a lot of theories which are going on here.

00:41:40.000 But suppose they killed Osama bin Laden.

00:41:42.000 Why did they have to kill him?

00:41:43.000 So that if he's taken alive, if they had asked the ISI, pointed out to the ISI, which they knew, then ISI would capture him alive.

00:41:54.000 And then he would be put on trial and he will spill the beans that 9-11 was not done by him.

00:42:00.000 And this was the fear because of which they didn't inform the ISI and they went for this hunt themselves independently.

00:42:08.000 Yes, sir.

00:42:09.000 I saw on press TV last night the Iranian government is saying they have intel that Al-Qaeda, back from when Al-Qaeda was the good guys in the 80s, was going to leak the fact that U.S.

00:42:23.000 intelligence was basically puppeteering terrorists to then blame it on Mujahideen and it came out last week in Sky Television that the number one Al-Qaeda operative inside Pakistan carrying out attacks on the Pakistani military, and this is confirmed, was MI6.

00:42:41.000 It's also been confirmed even Loftus, former head of counterterrorism with the FBI, Mr. Loftus, John Loftus, he came out on Fox and said that a SWAT ran the 7-7 bombings in London.

00:42:53.000 He is MI6 and has an MI6 security clearance to travel wherever he wishes, while he's on the news as the head terrorist.

00:43:00.000 Amrullah Alawaki, trained in the U.S., born in the U.S., Fox News reports, does dine secretly at the Pentagon and get orders.

00:43:08.000 He then runs the Patsy attacks.

00:43:10.000 As the former head of Pakistani intelligence, someone with connections, I know you don't like to speculate, but looking at the evidence we have, Bottom line, there is this group they call Al-Qaeda that are really double-triple agents, carrying out events to then be framed on Iraq, on Libya, on Pakistan, on Iran, a cookie cutter, whoever they want to attack.

00:43:33.000 Is that a correct assessment in my analysis, or can you add to that, General Gould?

00:43:40.000 Absolutely, Alex.

00:43:41.000 I think you are absolutely on the dot.

00:43:43.000 This is what they're doing.

00:43:44.000 They are out to conquer the world at the cost of the American people, their comfort, their lives, their blood, at the cost of their hard-earned dollars. 0.97

00:43:53.000 They have, this group is devastating.

00:43:56.000 I mean, they are harboring such ambitions which are anti-humanity, which are anti, above all, the American people.

00:44:05.000 And if you give them free hand, now they are trying to go for Pakistan. 0.94

00:44:10.000 And this will be a disaster because a desperate Pakistan would be a terrible thing for them to handle. 1.00

00:44:15.000 I don't know why they are building up a case against Pakistan.

00:44:18.000 Raymond Davis, in that case, the Russian intelligence gave out the information.

00:44:26.000 Pakistan was unfortunately not able to do so because of the reason, because America come down hard upon them.

00:44:33.000 But he was carrying some ounces of enriched uranium.

00:44:37.000 And he was to go and carry out some kind of action somewhere else.

00:44:42.000 And then blame it on Pakistan that Pakistan's nuclear assets are leaky and therefore they have to be taken out.

00:44:49.000 They have to be plucked out.

00:44:51.000 And this is my fear is that they have spotted the area from where they can infiltrate and they can come and pick up our nuclear assets or do whatever they want.

00:45:02.000 Because they have such liberty of movement here, unfortunately, because of President Musharraf, who was a dictator, and they supported him to the hilt, and he framed such policies which are being now followed by the present regime, which called itself democratic, but it is not democratic, because it is the product of the NRO, the National Recruitment Order, which was actually stage-managed by Condoleezza Rice,

00:45:29.000 And it was signed between David Willibrand of the UK and Richard Boucher from the American side and of course President Zardari from this side and Benazir at that time.

00:45:41.000 But Benazir became a little violent and she started reacting so she had to be removed by them.

00:45:47.000 If you remember, John Negroponte came here and he wanted to talk to her that she was becoming rebellious and she refused to meet him.

00:45:56.000 And then thereafter, she was no more.

00:45:59.000 I think this is a very dirty game which is being played by this group.

00:46:05.000 Incredible information.

00:46:07.000 Sir, I'd like to go back to the American recently arrested by Pakistani intelligence.

00:46:11.000 Thank God you stopped him.

00:46:13.000 It's now been confirmed he was trying to get uranium to some of their cut-out al-Qaeda patsies to claim that your nuclear weapons program is leaking.

00:46:25.000 Clearly, They now are moving to go into Pakistan. 0.73

00:46:30.000 Will they try coups to bring in a soft coup?

00:46:34.000 Or according to my military sources, they are preparing commando style attacks, bombardments, going in, getting the nukes, and then starting a larger attack and then having India attack.

00:46:49.000 But the word is China's not going to put up with this.

00:46:51.000 I mean, we're talking about World War III.

00:46:53.000 General, please give us the possible scenarios and the time frame on this.

00:46:58.000 Well, I think it was McChrystal's idea, and he, in a briefing to the President, he had said that all he needs is a couple of helicopters, and some commandos, and an abseiling rope, and then he can go and pluck out anything that you have.

00:47:16.000 And I mean, he said, I'll require a packing of three helicopters, and they can take out Pakistan's, all the nuclear triggers. 1.00

00:47:25.000 But then they thought the better of it, because Pakistan's nuclear assets are dispersed.

00:47:29.000 And if you touch Pakistan's nuclear assets, a lot of countries in the region who are very dear to America may be in trouble.

00:47:36.000 Besides that, I think right behind our back, China, who is a very reliable friend, Pakistan will be left with no option but to lean upon China. 0.94

00:47:45.000 And that could, as you are very rightly pointing out, that could start a third world war. 0.84

00:47:50.000 It is very dangerous.

00:47:51.000 I don't know what, why are they trying to play with fire?

00:47:54.000 Because it will ignite an inferno which will consume the entire region.

00:48:00.000 They're completely power-mad, sir, and they've been setting up a secret police grid, a demonization grid of real American patriots that just want to be a good country, with a Bill of Rights and Constitution, who don't want to be an empire.

00:48:11.000 But we have this wicked group that has seized us, and it just gives me chills.

00:48:16.000 for my family and my future, that the Rand Corporation and others have said they want to start a third world war to try to establish this world government.

00:48:25.000 You notice this is all happening as the dollar begins to die.

00:48:28.000 They actually plan to kill the dollar in this process, betray America after we're the bad guy attacking you and others, and then Europe comes out with its new global currency.

00:48:38.000 But that's more academic.

00:48:40.000 In the few minutes we've got left with you, General, getting back to your Intel connections, in government.

00:48:47.000 I know you don't like to speculate, but we know this official story.

00:48:51.000 Now they admit he didn't fire back, that he didn't use the wife as a shield.

00:48:55.000 They've already put out a fake photo a day and a half ago.

00:48:57.000 They say more fake photos coming.

00:48:59.000 We know their history of faking documents and photos. 0.50

00:49:02.000 This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

00:49:04.000 Much of our media is turning against the President, saying people are not buying this.

00:49:10.000 But what best do you know?

00:49:12.000 Because now the Pakistani military has been able to go in, but it's all been scooped out.

00:49:17.000 What was there?

00:49:18.000 What is the intel?

00:49:19.000 What does Pakistani ISI, what does the Pakistani army think really went on in that compound?

00:49:25.000 I mean, obviously it's the frame up of Pakistan, but do you have any intel on how this theater was executed?

00:49:33.000 Yeah, I think much of it what they have said, the helicopter sneaking in and this and the other, that is true.

00:49:41.000 Because they did come and there are eyewitnesses who have reported this.

00:49:44.000 And I was just watching on the TV channel, a lot of people in the neighborhood were giving the stories.

00:49:51.000 But whether Osama bin Laden was there or not, it is not clear.

00:49:55.000 And they have hidden this fact.

00:49:57.000 And the ISI is embarrassed.

00:49:59.000 And Pakistani nation is up in arms against the ISI and the army.

00:50:04.000 They look, this is what you have done to us.

00:50:07.000 You have allowed invaders to come in and do things on their own.

00:50:12.000 And you have allowed the coverage gaps.

00:50:17.000 Why?

00:50:17.000 Because we are investing so much money in you and this is what you have done to us.

00:50:21.000 So I think very soon there is going to be a policy shift as far as Pakistan is concerned because pressure is mounting on the regime, on the government.

00:50:30.000 And they will have to simply say, if you were to ask me, that you have done now your job.

00:50:35.000 If you think that this was the target that you were looking for and you ravaged the whole world because of this, Now you've got him, so please finish us, leave us alone, and Yankee, please go home. 0.99

00:50:48.000 You will be also at rest.

00:50:50.000 Your boys and girls are being killed unnecessarily.

00:50:52.000 You're squandering your dollars.

00:50:54.000 135 billion dollars a year, for heaven's sake.

00:50:58.000 Taxpayers' money being squandered in Afghanistan on a war which has already been lost.

00:51:03.000 General, we've only got a few minutes left with you, and we appreciate your time.

00:51:07.000 General Hamid Gul joins us, former head of Pakistani intelligence.

00:51:11.000 Unfortunately, I want to have to relay to you and the rest of the world that I'm monitoring liberal, conservative, mainline radio and TV, and I want to give you the bad news that they are in just a matter of hours.

00:51:23.000 First, it was cut the couple billion you're given that, as you point out, you spend way, you know, many times more trying to carry out the globalist dictates there in the region.

00:51:36.000 So our media is acting like you're our welfare recipients and that the money is a blessing instead of a curse given to you by these devilish globalists.

00:51:47.000 But now the drum is beginning that you need to be struck, that you are Al Qaeda, that you run Bin Laden, and that you love the destabilization of all these people brought in, And they are, I want to confirm, you need to know, they are trying to get the American people ready to attack you.

00:52:08.000 And what would you like to say to the American people about the propaganda they're hearing?

00:52:13.000 Yes, this is total propaganda.

00:52:15.000 This is fixing Pakistan, who has been a long time your friend.

00:52:18.000 You are the sole superpower today because of Pakistan and because of the blood of the Afghan people, whom you have, with impunity and with great callousness, you have destroyed them. 1.00

00:52:29.000 Please don't do that.

00:52:31.000 People of America are very good.

00:52:33.000 They are all very innocent.

00:52:35.000 I think gullibility is acceptable to an extent.

00:52:38.000 But please do not buy all the theories of these ambitious generals who are political generals.

00:52:45.000 They are not professional generals.

00:52:46.000 I can assure you I'm a professional man.

00:52:48.000 I've spent 36 years in the Army and since then also I've been studying and reading and I've been thinking about things.

00:52:55.000 I can assure you your generals are wrong.

00:52:58.000 They have got Obama beleaguered, or he has fallen into their trap, and this is going to be a disaster for everybody.

00:53:06.000 General, in closing, the average American from New York, when they come to Texas, they think that we don't even really have houses, and that we live outdoors and ride horses when we're heavily industrialized, like any other western area.

00:53:19.000 Also, many Americans believe that Pakistan is in the Middle East.

00:53:22.000 They call you Arabs.

00:53:24.000 They don't understand that it's a completely different system and culture.

00:53:29.000 And they don't understand that in the war with the Indians, several wars, that Pakistan fighting five to one has basically defeated them.

00:53:38.000 And I don't think the average American kind of thinks it's, oh, some more push over Arabs.

00:53:44.000 I don't think the Arabs are weak, they're just not well coordinated. 1.00

00:53:46.000 I don't think they understand that trying to go into Pakistan will make Vietnam and Korea look like a cakewalk. 0.98

00:53:55.000 Can you speak to that?

00:53:56.000 Yes, exactly like that!

00:53:58.000 And I tell you, we'll stand and fight, I can assure you this.

00:54:01.000 And this is a very large nation, it's 180 million people.

00:54:05.000 We are nuclear, and we are the fifth nuclear power which has been described by none other than the American media.

00:54:12.000 And we are ideological, we are self-sufficient in food, and we have China at our back, and we have the Muslim world sentiment supporting us.

00:54:23.000 I can assure you it's going to be a very difficult proposition.

00:54:27.000 Let's not even think of it.

00:54:28.000 Please, people of America, stop these guys.

00:54:31.000 They're cheating you, they're deceiving you, and they have personal ambitions which they want to satisfy.

00:54:37.000 They're bloodthirsty people, they have wild ideas, and these must be checked by people of America.

00:54:45.000 Final point, General Ghul, we'll let you go.

00:54:47.000 We appreciate the time.

00:54:48.000 General Hamid Ghul joins us from Pakistan.

00:54:51.000 What is the general sentiment of the population there?

00:54:55.000 Are they buying this latest hoax?

00:54:58.000 And are you concerned, because they're hyping this here now, about a new 9-11, this time to be blamed on Pakistan?

00:55:04.000 Because that's in the works.

00:55:06.000 From the propaganda, you can see the preparation.

00:55:08.000 Yes, people of Pakistan are very aware of it.

00:55:10.000 And that's why I think Pakistan government is going to be under tremendous pressure.

00:55:14.000 And you will have a revolution unless it is rectified in time in Pakistan. 1.00

00:55:19.000 And a revolution in Pakistan will absolutely turn the world around. 0.61

00:55:23.000 I can assure you this.

00:55:25.000 All right.

00:55:26.000 Thank you so much, General Hamid Gul, for checking in with us with this information.

00:55:32.000 We'll talk to you again soon.

00:55:33.000 Thank you.

00:55:35.000 All right, late at night over there, but he did join us.

00:55:40.000 That guy's a very serious person.

00:55:43.000 That is the former head of the Mujahideen and the guy that led the war against the Russians.

00:55:51.000 That's him.

00:55:52.000 That's the real deal, ladies and gentlemen, here on this broadcast.

00:55:56.000 And I would disagree with him on any point if I disagreed.

00:56:01.000 I have studied this in depth.

00:56:02.000 I have had the foremost scholars on this show.

00:56:05.000 I have read all three books by Brzezinski about it.

00:56:08.000 And Brzezinski admits it all.

00:56:10.000 And I'm getting chills right now.

00:56:12.000 Folks, you look at those college students that showed up when the government put that Twitter out to create that false flash mob out there.

00:56:20.000 Yeah, yeah, Osama's dead.

00:56:21.000 And the Globalist too, that is a gauge that they bought it.

00:56:25.000 I've seen videos of them speaking.

00:56:27.000 Those college students could hardly talk.

00:56:30.000 White, black, hispanic. 1.00

00:56:32.000 They were fluoride head, TV head, soft, intellectually dead people. 0.99

00:56:40.000 And the globalists are planning massive terror attacks. 0.53

00:56:43.000 They're hyping nuke attacks here.

00:56:44.000 I'm telling you that's in the cards. 1.00

00:56:46.000 And they're going to take those idiot kids and they're going to clap them in uniforms. 1.00

00:56:50.000 And they're going to try to draft the strong rural people of the South and other areas of the country and march us off in World War III. 1.00

00:57:00.000 Against the Pakistanis. 0.99

00:57:01.000 Backed up by the Chaikoms. 1.00

00:57:03.000 This is not good.

00:57:04.000 Okay, I'm getting chills right now.

00:57:06.000 I'm getting bad chills.

00:57:07.000 And let me tell you, I go back to Saturday here at the office working, and I was literally about to shake.

00:57:13.000 And they're like, what's wrong?

00:57:14.000 And I go, I am having hardcore dread.

00:57:20.000 I can intellectually see all of this, but also I can feel it, ladies and gentlemen.

00:57:24.000 I can feel it.

00:57:26.000 I called my wife Saturday.

00:57:27.000 I worked up here till late at night.

00:57:28.000 I said, honey, I am.

00:57:31.000 I am physically shaken right now.

00:57:36.000 Now there's a chance to avert this, but we are at the edge of the cliff.

00:57:39.000 My spirit, my gut, my intellectual analysis, we are at the edge.

00:57:44.000 Is there a cliff near you?

00:57:47.000 Be safe, but if you want to go experience it, it's called common sense, it's called sixth sense, it's called your gut, your instincts.

00:57:53.000 You know, go to the edge.

00:57:55.000 Look over.

00:57:56.000 That feeling?

00:57:58.000 You should all have it right now.

00:57:59.000 You don't need to stand at the edge of a cliff.

00:58:01.000 Every minute I'm awake, I've got it now.

00:58:05.000 Never before have I felt this.

00:58:07.000 I told you a few weeks ago, I was starting to feel it.

00:58:09.000 I only felt a small tremor like this before 9-11, and I was able to calculate off enemy propaganda.

00:58:15.000 They would attack the World Trade Center and blame it on their former asset, Osama bin Laden.

00:58:18.000 This is GCN, the Genesis Communications Radio Network. .

00:58:31.000 When you're out on the road, the last place you want to be is on the road.

00:58:38.000 But if the unfortunate happens, you'll be glad you were wearing diamond gussets.

00:58:43.000 There's a place down in Tennessee where they make blue diamond gusset jeans.

00:58:51.000 They sew pride in every stitch.

00:58:56.000 Guarantee you'll love the way they fit.

00:58:57.000 They put a diamond gusset in the crotch where you need it most.

00:59:05.000 Blue diamond gussets got it.

00:59:10.000 We turn jeans inside out.

00:59:12.000 Diamond Gusset Jeans.

00:59:14.000 Made in the USA with unparalleled quality.

00:59:16.000 Our Defender Motorcycle Jeans combine Gusset comfort with Kevlar protection, so you can ride all day with confidence.

00:59:23.000 Order yours at gusset.com.

00:59:26.000 Diamond Gusset Jeans got it.

00:59:28.000 Others don't.

00:59:33.000 Waging war on corruption.

00:59:36.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:39.000 Big Brother.

00:59:46.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:48.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:50.000 You want answers?

00:59:52.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:53.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:57.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:01.000 Fighting as hard as we can to deprogram the public.

01:00:12.000 Not with our new information, but by simply getting people to question.

01:00:16.000 And that's happening.

01:00:17.000 The globalists are still masters at launching the hoax. 0.59

01:00:21.000 And we have undoubtedly seen one of the greatest hoaxes in modern history.

01:00:26.000 I am going to do a...

01:00:29.000 Hour of overdrive today because I want to be able to take your phone calls.

01:00:33.000 Many stations do carry our fourth hour.

01:00:35.000 For many years I did a fourth hour but now I'm developing this new TV show that's very close to launching and I need that time to get preparation for it every day and do the TV show.

01:00:46.000 My own private model that it's taken us three years to get to this point.

01:00:49.000 That's what Glenn Beck's now doing, going with his own TV system.

01:00:52.000 But we're doing it from the grassroots.

01:00:54.000 But a lot of days I do do the fourth hour and I'm pulling the trigger on that right now so that we can take your phone calls.

01:01:01.000 It will be nothing But phone calls in the fourth hour today, and I will attempt to actually just take one call after the other.

01:01:10.000 Also, later in the broadcast, we'll get into the unbelievable financial developments.

01:01:15.000 I'm going to mention some of those in a moment.

01:01:17.000 We've got James Corbett, a Corbett report coming on from Japan, because I want to get his take as a teacher, a scholar, a TV Researcher who studies media and propaganda.

01:01:31.000 I want to get his take on this.

01:01:33.000 Then we have Owen J.J.

01:01:34.000 Stone, computer expert and popular technology commentator.

01:01:38.000 He contacted us and wanted to come on.

01:01:40.000 He says he's not buying it.

01:01:42.000 We've got incredible statements by Cindy Sheehan.

01:01:45.000 Dealing with the propaganda.

01:01:47.000 Some of her quotes that I want to go over.

01:01:49.000 I want to get her on the show, too, in the next few days.

01:01:52.000 I had promised my children that I was going to take them fishing Thursday and Friday.

01:01:57.000 And every time I try to take a vacation, everybody's noticed this happens.

01:02:00.000 But I'm going to have Watson And Aaron Dykes sitting in on Thursday and Friday.

01:02:08.000 We're going to have Watson and Watson.

01:02:09.000 We're going to have both Watson brothers.

01:02:11.000 Steve Watson has a degree in political science.

01:02:12.000 Great writer.

01:02:13.000 Of course, Paul, the head honcho over there.

01:02:15.000 Just a great political mind.

01:02:17.000 That's why I hired him nine years ago.

01:02:19.000 Watching him write for years on his own website, Propagandamatrix.com.

01:02:24.000 They're going to be filling in and I think they're going to do an excellent job.

01:02:26.000 They'll also take a lot of your calls.

01:02:27.000 So people that like to call in and folks like to hear callers, that's going to be a great bounty for you Thursday and Friday.

01:02:34.000 Then I'll be back Sunday.

01:02:36.000 But I've got to, even though World War III is hurtling towards us, In a way, I was thinking about canceling, and if stuff continues to blow up or they attack Pakistan, I think it'll take a few weeks of hyping at first, or even months. 0.99

01:02:51.000 Or they could stage a terror attack any time.

01:02:55.000 All these pieces, the things I see them getting ready for, this signifies big moves.

01:03:00.000 And you notice the financial stuff's going on in the background.

01:03:02.000 How many years did we say, when they get ready to finally hammer the dollar, and when it starts plunging, get ready for war.

01:03:08.000 And I read Rand Corporation documents on Aaron.

01:03:10.000 Had political scientists.

01:03:12.000 I had Gerald Cilente on two weeks ago.

01:03:15.000 That's a good point.

01:03:15.000 Let's get Gerald Cilente and Paul Craig Roberts to pop in as mini-guests when Watson is here on Thursday and Friday.

01:03:24.000 And Aaron.

01:03:25.000 I think that's the answer.

01:03:27.000 Aaron can interview him too.

01:03:28.000 Let's just get Cilente on for an hour with Aaron when he sits in.

01:03:31.000 Watson will be the first half.

01:03:32.000 Aaron the second half.

01:03:34.000 We'll get Cilente.

01:03:35.000 We'll get...

01:03:37.000 Dr. Paul Greg Robertson, because you heard them in the last two weeks before all this started saying, get ready for war, get ready for some pretext, get ready for something.

01:03:44.000 And this is a false flag to say Pakistan's involved with Al Qaeda, which of course they are, so is our government.

01:03:51.000 You heard Gould earlier, he goes, your government's commanding our forces.

01:03:56.000 So again, it's true, but to a point.

01:03:58.000 I mean, Pakistan has to deal with these people. 0.99

01:04:02.000 And obviously the CIA knew bin Laden was there, but that's even a lie.

01:04:06.000 They just had a compound.

01:04:07.000 They did a staged event.

01:04:09.000 Probably had the frozen body in there. 0.91

01:04:10.000 Now they're admitting he didn't resist.

01:04:14.000 Going off how the Russians have done it, how the CIA's been caught, the British would do these things with fake German officers.

01:04:20.000 You know, they'd use real cadavers and throw them in the ocean and have... They had to throw out a whole bunch of them before the Germans found one with fake codes on it.

01:04:28.000 It was fake British dead soldiers.

01:04:30.000 They also had some fake dead German ones.

01:04:31.000 They probably had the frozen body, got the cadaver in there, shot it up, These seals are deader than a hammer. 0.99

01:04:39.000 These guys are gonna be killed real quick.

01:04:40.000 This is Alex Jones with five good reasons you should consider buying a solar-powered generator.

01:04:45.000 Number one, new climate legislation could easily double or triple your electric bill.

01:04:49.000 Number two, our new Energy Czar wants to control how much power your electric company allows you to have.

01:04:55.000 It's true.

01:04:56.000 Total government control of electricity in the name of smart grid technology is coming.

01:05:01.000 In some areas of the country, the power grid is dangerously overloaded.

01:05:05.000 And now, new socialist legislation is only compounding the problem.

01:05:10.000 Dangerous weather is always a threat to local grids.

01:05:12.000 Every year, thousands of families lose their power from weather-related outages.

01:05:17.000 A solar power generator provides powerful backup, insurance, and peace of mind.

01:05:21.000 Folks, I really believe in the solar power generators offered by Solutions from Science, one of my oldest sponsors.

01:05:26.000 You can get more information at www.mysolarbackup.com.

01:05:30.000 That's mysolarbackup.com.

01:05:32.000 Remember, the government doesn't own the sun, so go to mysolarbackup.com or call 1-877-327-0365.

01:05:41.000 Hi folks, this is Alex Jones.

01:05:43.000 I'm looking for people that have the wisdom to spot savings, opportunity, and recognize risk.

01:05:48.000 Saving means to make money.

01:05:50.000 The Cal Bend Pure Soap Company can save you thousands of dollars and give you good old-fashioned real soaps that are triple concentrated and twice as good as what you're using now.

01:05:59.000 Soaps made from vegetable and coconut oils that contain no useless dyes, perfumes, deodorants, or antibacterials.

01:06:07.000 Your risk is the hundreds of hazardous toxic detergents that give you rashes, itching sores, and deteriorating clothing called lint.

01:06:15.000 If you want something better, if you want something you've never had before, you had to do something you've never done before, getting a free catalog is easy by calling 800-340-7091.

01:06:25.000 Or see Calvin on the web at FiveStarSoap.com.

01:06:28.000 Take charge of your health now by calling 800-340-7091.

01:06:30.000 Call 800-340-7091.

01:06:33.000 Or see Calvin on the web at 5starsoap.com.

01:06:36.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.

01:06:45.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

01:06:48.000 As we're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath the Americans at home.

01:06:53.000 I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

01:07:00.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?

01:07:03.000 Bernanke?

01:07:03.000 They're arsonists!

01:07:04.000 They're asking for more matches!

01:07:05.000 The whole of the republic identifies the enemies of our nation.

01:07:08.000 The criminal offshore cartel, hell bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.

01:07:15.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.

01:07:17.000 They're asking for more matches.

01:07:19.000 And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?

01:07:21.000 Today seems like nobody does care.

01:07:23.000 And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.

01:07:28.000 Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at InfoWars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:07:41.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.

01:07:46.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

01:07:50.000 Well, we just had the former head of Pakistani intelligence who ran the Mujahideen under Ronald Reagan, who Ghul liked and admired and who Reagan commended, on saying that 9-11 is an inside job stage, that CIA is commanding their forces against the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Pakistan.

01:08:13.000 They've lost 30,000 troops in this fracas.

01:08:17.000 And that here it is in the middle of a major defense complex with their West Point right down the street.

01:08:24.000 And that he was supposedly there six years and nobody noticed a six foot four guy including US intelligence and US troops that are crawling all over Pakistan.

01:08:35.000 And he mentioned the CIA agent.

01:08:37.000 In fact, print me that article guys.

01:08:39.000 I want to go off even the Washington Post.

01:08:41.000 Remember a few weeks ago CIA agent caught with uranium trying to give it to Muslims so they could blame it on the Pakistani government?

01:08:49.000 Folks, they're framing Pakistan now. 1.00

01:08:51.000 We can't have wars with everybody.

01:08:54.000 Now all these US senators are calling for bombardments of Syria.

01:09:00.000 The CIA is admitting that they Are fomenting the people in the South, the Muslim Brotherhood again? 0.98

01:09:08.000 They put the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt now, and they're banning any protest.

01:09:13.000 Now they're using Al-Qaeda against Gaddafi.

01:09:15.000 You can't make this stuff up!

01:09:19.000 And now they say, oh, actually, bin Laden didn't fight back.

01:09:21.000 Actually, bin Laden didn't use his wife as a shield.

01:09:24.000 Actually, that photo we released Sunday night, it wasn't real.

01:09:27.000 It was a Photoshop.

01:09:28.000 We caught him, so they had to admit that.

01:09:29.000 Now they've got a new Photoshop coming out.

01:09:32.000 They dump the body in the sea?

01:09:34.000 Can't you smell the lie here?

01:09:36.000 The way it's the kickoff of the campaign.

01:09:38.000 The good news is, the major Tea Party sites are questioning it.

01:09:41.000 I've got those articles.

01:09:43.000 Brett Barth, the big spinoff guy from Drudge, the media powerhouse, he's questioning it.

01:09:48.000 Because if you have any integrity, you cannot buy it.

01:09:52.000 It is, just on its face, it's cartoonish.

01:09:57.000 Now, Here's the Washington Post reporting on it.

01:10:00.000 Here's the New York Post.

01:10:01.000 Here's the L.A.

01:10:01.000 Times.

01:10:02.000 Literally thousands of articles are attacking us right now.

01:10:05.000 We're going to Stephen Pachenek coming up in the next hour.

01:10:12.000 He is the former deputy.

01:10:16.000 Uh, to, uh, of course, Henry Kissinger, Deputy Secretary of State, CFR, who first broke to the world that Bin Laden was frozen on ice and was going to be rolled out expediently later than two White House sources told me.

01:10:31.000 Oh, it just goes on and on.

01:10:32.000 Uh, and then Madeleine Albright came out and then Walter Cronkite came out and then Theresa Hines Carey.

01:10:37.000 Remember that in 2003?

01:10:39.000 I mean, it's not like I just said, oh, they claim they killed Bin Laden.

01:10:43.000 I'm going to say it's a conspiracy theory.

01:10:44.000 I've been telling you this is coming.

01:10:46.000 And now we've got fake photos that goes on and on.

01:10:49.000 But I wanted to read to you before we go to James Corbett what Cindy Sheehan said on her website.

01:10:55.000 And I want to get her on as well, probably tomorrow. 1.00

01:10:57.000 I'm sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, you're stupid. 0.98

01:11:00.000 That's because there were eight others before that. 0.99

01:11:02.000 Sheehan writes, just think to yourself, they parade Saddam's dead sons around to prove they were dead.

01:11:09.000 Well, the first time they did it was wax figurines.

01:11:11.000 For two days they showed these heads and they later said, those are wax figurines.

01:11:17.000 There it is, they've released the dead Bin Laden photo.

01:11:20.000 It looks... And they're still saying they can't confirm it. 0.97

01:11:24.000 This is so ridiculous. 0.99

01:11:27.000 Obama, Bin Laden, death photo with a question. 0.99

01:11:32.000 And who's putting this out?

01:11:33.000 You'd think the White House would put this out.

01:11:37.000 LiveLeaks put it out.

01:11:39.000 And notice, it looks like a wax figurine.

01:11:42.000 Again, the point is, I've got Watson digging up, because I remember it in the news.

01:11:46.000 For a day, they said, here's the dead sons.

01:11:48.000 They had all this shrapnel, and their heads were all damaged.

01:11:50.000 They said, oh, it was wax representations, like the wax museum.

01:11:57.000 And now you look at that, they have a green light, a supposedly night vision light, so that you can't tell.

01:12:04.000 And it looks so fake.

01:12:08.000 He doesn't even have a gray beard!

01:12:10.000 The guy had a gray beard 12 years ago!

01:12:12.000 Oh my gosh, I can't handle this.

01:12:15.000 And there's the smiling troop.

01:12:17.000 We'll see if this is another fake to even confuse people more. 1.00

01:12:21.000 Continuing, I'm sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, you're stupid, Sheehan writes. 1.00

01:12:26.000 Just think to yourself, they paraded Saddam's dead sons around to prove they were dead. 0.99

01:12:31.000 Why do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL at sea? 0.95

01:12:35.000 This lying, murderous empire. 0.98

01:12:38.000 That only exists with your brainwashed consent. 1.00

01:12:40.000 Just put your flags away and think. 0.99

01:12:42.000 That's right, absolutely, what the flag symbolizes is being killed. 0.80

01:12:45.000 Now...

01:12:47.000 I wanted to get James Corbett on, not only because I saw excellent analysis he was putting out, and the nine other times, you know, he's been killed, or the eight other, now making this nine, but also he's in Japan, and he can report on the rising radiation levels there.

01:13:00.000 James Corbett is edited and webmastered The Corbett Report.

01:13:04.000 He also has a new book coming out, Reportage, Essays on the New World Order, CorbettReport.com, and he joins us from Japan.

01:13:13.000 It's great to have you on, James.

01:13:15.000 Give us your breakdown on this Jerry Bruckheimer scripted situation.

01:13:21.000 Well thank you for having me on today and every bit of that dread that you were talking about earlier that you feel is what I'm feeling right now and that's why I was up until 3 or 4 in the morning last night as well and I'm up at it again tonight because I absolutely see the shift that's going on here and I think what we've seen is really they're discarding the trump card in the war on terror because that trump card is no longer

01:13:44.000 Useable and so they've they've jettisoned their old CIA asset who wasn't really working as their boogeyman anymore and they're taking this game to a completely different level and I I can't help but think that that means that there is some tectonic shifts coming up and I've been talking for some time now I talked about on your program a couple of months ago about

01:14:02.000 How this really represents the beginning, pre-stages of a lead up to World War 3 and a confrontation in the long run with China and I think this is another part on that road and I think obviously they're setting up Pakistan for some 1.00

01:14:18.000 Major military action in the very near future and we know that just six days before they rolled out this corpse to tell us that Osama is dead, we know that just six days before the WikiLeaks false flag operation released those documents from Guantanamo which said that of course they've got nukes planted all over They're all over Europe and they're going to unleash them if Osama ever dies. 0.79

01:14:41.000 So I don't take that as a threat from the shadowy mythical al-Qaeda terrorist organization. 0.61

01:14:46.000 I take that as a threat from the real terrorists who are, of course, puppeteering those patsies and stooges.

01:14:51.000 Now, when I mentioned Jerry Bruckheimer for folks that doubt this, with the private Jessica Lynch story, if we remember, at the time I watched the video and I said, this is all scripted.

01:15:03.000 And then I looked at maps of where U.S. forces were.

01:15:06.000 They had controlled that area for at least three days when Jessica Lynch was, quote, rescued. 0.90

01:15:13.000 And they kicked in doors, beat people up.

01:15:16.000 She was hiding under the hospital bed when they got there.

01:15:20.000 And they told her...

01:15:22.000 We're now going to tell you, and Jerry Bruckheimer and I at the BBC reported it, had written the story that the men wouldn't fight, but she climbed up with a .50 cal on the top and killed dozens of them.

01:15:33.000 And people are like, man, this is good for women in the military. 0.87

01:15:35.000 And it turned out it wasn't Army PSYOP to sell women in the military. 0.98

01:15:40.000 She hid in the back of the vehicle, cowering.

01:15:42.000 And later she had to go public.

01:15:43.000 She said, no, it's not true.

01:15:46.000 It was actually several Hispanic members of the team.

01:15:48.000 They ambushed and killed a bunch of folks.

01:15:50.000 I forget their names, but two Hispanic members of the team.

01:15:54.000 And it was just a supply detail.

01:15:57.000 They fought off the Iraqi forces and then five of the team that started saying it wasn't true, they were all killed.

01:16:06.000 They were drowned.

01:16:07.000 They died in car wrecks.

01:16:11.000 Phoenix, Arizona.

01:16:12.000 They were in a nice neighborhood having a barbecue party for one of them.

01:16:16.000 And a guy in a black uniform and a mask popped up, double tapped him in the head.

01:16:19.000 Total black op. 0.92

01:16:21.000 Because they didn't want that story coming out that this was all a black op.

01:16:24.000 We've got, of course, don't forget, the NFL player. 0.68

01:16:29.000 Who went over there and he wrote letters home Pat Tillman's and saying this is all made up I'm gonna come back and expose it you know the drug dealing all of it this war is fake and they just said look you were a big recruiting tool you die and they shot him a bunch people black ops in his unit they walked up on him the army coroners went public with this he obviously was begging and they just triple-tapped right in the head you're gonna go tell people about the drugs die

01:17:00.000 So, the point is, Bruckheimer scripted the whole private lynch thing.

01:17:04.000 She'd been there for three days.

01:17:06.000 The Iraqis went to the U.S. 1.00

01:17:07.000 forces who'd taken over and said, she's here, come get her.

01:17:09.000 They knew no Iraqi government was there.

01:17:12.000 For three days, Bruckheimer got the whole event ready, scripted it, how she was the hero.

01:17:19.000 And Corbyn, I know I'm ranting.

01:17:20.000 This is so important.

01:17:22.000 Well, it is important.

01:17:23.000 And you bring out some good points earlier about the PSYOP that they staged with the phony flash mob with those poor fluoride-addled college kids. 0.87

01:17:31.000 And I think a lot of people that I've talked to have said, well, wow, that looks exactly like what they were showing on 9-11 with the Arabs partying in the streets. 0.75

01:17:39.000 I think that to me is part of this media psyop because it seems like it's designed to give that reaction so that they're in a way showing the Americans are exactly what they were fighting against and I think that's again part of this whole psyop that's going on right now.

01:17:54.000 Well, you're absolutely right.

01:17:56.000 When we come back, I want to get your rundown of what's fishy in the story, in the photos, with Bin Laden supposedly being dead, and the larger geopolitical ramifications.

01:18:09.000 But in the minute and a half before break, I saw you and RT really rattle off a cornucopia of the history and why you question this.

01:18:18.000 Right, well, because as I pointed out in my article yesterday and you put up on your site, they have now announced Osama's death on about eight or nine different occasions now that I've been able to count, and that was just a quick count, but going back to President Musharraf and the Afghan Taliban and the FBI counter-terror chief Dale Watson,

01:18:38.000 And the current president of Pakistan, Benazir Bhutto, again and again, over and over for the past nine years, they've talked about, oh, he's probably dead, he's gone, we got word he died in the Pakistan earthquake in 2005, etc., etc.

01:18:52.000 So I don't see any reason to take this one any more seriously until they release something resembling evidence that Osama bin Laden actually died.

01:19:01.000 I think to a certain extent that's a distraction because the real issue here is the geopolitical moves that they're going to be making based on this orchestrated PSYOP.

01:19:10.000 And that's what's giving me chills.

01:19:12.000 We'll talk about the larger geopolitical when we come back.

01:19:14.000 But remember, these are folks that murdered Pat Tillman.

01:19:18.000 And the Army coroner, the doctor, wouldn't lie.

01:19:21.000 He said he was shot at far range.

01:19:23.000 Later, the witnesses admitted the truth.

01:19:25.000 They shot him.

01:19:26.000 He begged for help.

01:19:27.000 They went up to help him, and then they shot him from three feet.

01:19:32.000 Powder burns.

01:19:33.000 Spaced right, right in his eyes. 0.98

01:19:35.000 Shot him right in the face with a three burst from an M16. 0.99

01:19:37.000 And then they told you Al Qaeda killed him. 0.54

01:19:41.000 Mother's Day is this Sunday and Pro Flowers is offering an amazing Mother's Day special.

01:19:46.000 A beautiful bouquet of two dozen assorted Mother's Day roses with a free glass vase plus a free box of chocolates.

01:19:53.000 All for just $29.99!

01:19:55.000 Just visit proflowers.com, click on the microphone in the upper right corner, and enter the secret code 400.

01:20:02.000 These two dozen assorted Mother's Day roses are bursting with color.

01:20:05.000 They're the perfect way to show all the moms in your life how much you appreciate them.

01:20:10.000 Two dozen assorted roses, guaranteed to stay beautiful for at least seven full days, plus a free glass vase and a free box of chocolates.

01:20:18.000 All for just $29.99.

01:20:20.000 But hurry, this special offer ends Friday.

01:20:23.000 Mother's Day is this Sunday, and it's your last chance to take care of mom.

01:20:27.000 The only way to get your last chance Mother's Day offer is to visit ProFlowers.com.

01:20:32.000 Click on the microphone in the upper right corner and enter the secret code 400.

01:20:36.000 That's ProFlowers.com.

01:20:38.000 Secret code 400.

01:20:40.000 Hello, friends.

01:20:41.000 This is Alex Jones.

01:20:42.000 The earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear disaster that killed thousands of Japanese citizens is nothing compared to the devastation that could be caused by hyperinflation that will soon hit the United States and could lead to millions of Americans becoming homeless, all caused by the devalued U.S. dollar.

01:20:58.000 While the mainstream media continues to ignore inflation, our friends at the National Inflation Association provide a free weekly newsletter that educates Americans to the facts and truth about the U.S. economy and inflation.

01:21:08.000 I urge you to sign up at the NIA's free newsletter at www.inflation.us to learn how you can not only survive but prosper during the upcoming hyperinflation crisis.

01:21:19.000 Silver has more than doubled since the NIA declared silver the best investment for the next decade on inflation.us.

01:21:25.000 The NIA's team of expert economists are happy to answer any economic questions you have about inflation, debt, currencies, real estate, precious metals, and commodities.

01:21:35.000 Visit inflation.us to learn the economic truth that the mainstream media ignores.

01:21:40.000 Going solar for cheap is as easy as 1-2-3.

01:21:43.000 If you want to go solar but thought the setup costs were too high, now you can build your own solar panels for less than $200.

01:21:49.000 Don't laugh!

01:21:50.000 We've sold over 45,000 solar do-it-yourself kits.

01:21:53.000 Watch our introduction video at 123cheapsolarvideo.com.

01:21:57.000 The video is free, but it won't last long.

01:22:00.000 Save money on electric bills and get off the grid!

01:22:02.000 Go to 123cheapsolarvideo.com right now!

01:22:05.000 Our website again is 123cheapsolarvideo.com.

01:22:10.000 Hi, this is Ted Anderson.

01:22:11.000 Have you ever wondered why banks, stockbrokers, investment advisors won't talk about gold IRAs?

01:22:16.000 They've been available since 1986, yet the financial industry won't recognize the value of gold for your retirement.

01:22:21.000 Gold has outperformed paper investments, yet no word about IRAs.

01:22:25.000 If you would like to have gold for your retirement, call 800-686-2237.

01:22:28.000 Don't get left behind by rising inflation and low returns.

01:22:33.000 Call 800-686-2237.

01:22:35.000 Secure your future and call 1-800-686-2237. 349-359-379.

01:22:44.000 How much pain to the pump can you handle?

01:22:46.000 Ease your pain now.

01:22:47.000 Did you know you can increase gas mileage by 25 to 45% or even as high as 60% by adding water?

01:22:54.000 Go to SaveYourGasMoney.com and learn how you can save an average of $750 to $1850 per year with our hydrogen on-demand technology.

01:23:02.000 Running our hydrogen gas through your engine is the equivalent of using 140 octane fuel.

01:23:08.000 See how it works at SaveYourGasMoney.com.

01:23:10.000 We have two complete systems for all cars, trucks, and SUVs, for gas and diesel engines.

01:23:15.000 Our gas-saving stainless steel units install easily in about two hours with no engine modifications and no extra parts needed.

01:23:21.000 It's completely safe, American-made, requires no maintenance, comes with a lifetime warranty, great technical support, And same-day shipping!

01:23:28.000 Visit SaveYourGasMoney.com or call 888-887-9981.

01:23:30.000 Call 888-887-9981.

01:23:30.000 That's 888-887-9981.

01:23:32.000 That's 888-887-9981.

01:23:35.000 Ease your pain at the pump with SaveYourGasMoney.com.

01:23:39.000 Like a green eye, I don't believe in God. I don't believe in God.

01:23:57.000 Talk to him every day.

01:23:59.000 What do you mean I don't support your system?

01:24:04.000 I go to court when I have to.

01:24:07.000 I've only got five minutes left with James Corbett and the Corbett Report.

01:24:12.000 Finishing up on the geopolitical ramifications of this.

01:24:15.000 The public not buying it.

01:24:16.000 The news is the dinosaur media panicking.

01:24:19.000 And then a quick report.

01:24:20.000 Maybe I'll hold you over and just keep our next guest till maybe 35 after or so.

01:24:24.000 Some news on what's happening with the radiation stricken Japan and the clouds settling in over the U.S.

01:24:32.000 Alright, well on the geopolitical note, I think it's extremely important to understand that Pakistan is being set up here and the fact that Osama Bin Laden was supposedly found just down the street from the Pakistan Military Academy, that is not by accident. 0.52

01:24:46.000 There's clearly an attempt to To coordinate something that will look very much, will implicate the Pakistani military establishment in this.

01:24:55.000 So in order to justify the further incursion into Pakistan. 0.68

01:24:58.000 And we know that of course the drones have been dropping bombs on Pakistan for some time now.

01:25:02.000 So that's not necessarily a market shift in strategy.

01:25:06.000 It's just sort of like the Gulf of Tonkin sort of made the Vietnam War into an official war instead of what it was before.

01:25:13.000 So, in the exact same way, they're just going to try to up the ante here and escalate what's already going on.

01:25:20.000 But this is a very disturbing move because, of course, we see Pakistan and China with their close alliance that may even become closer, of course, if they're threatened by U.S.

01:25:30.000 aggression.

01:25:31.000 So there's a very, very volatile situation developing here, and this only plays even further into what's already sweeping through.

01:25:38.000 Through the Middle East, of course, and with Syria looking up until this point at any rate like it was the next in the crosshairs. 0.94

01:25:44.000 Maybe there's been a bit of a change now, but all of this is very disturbing.

01:25:48.000 And, of course, it's all predicated on the mythical phony war on terror with the phony boogeyman Al-Qaeda, which is okay in Libya, but is the enemy in Afghanistan apparently.

01:26:00.000 Well, they always launch new wars with a big hyped PR event.

01:26:05.000 You can see all the scripting, not just all the lies they've been caught in.

01:26:09.000 And notice in the last few months, we've told folks, Pakistan's next, Pakistan's next. 1.00

01:26:13.000 They're positioning all of this.

01:26:15.000 Saudi Arabia knows they're being double-crossed and have run to Pakistan for nuclear protection.

01:26:20.000 This is spiraling out of control.

01:26:22.000 World War III, a hot war, folks, is right now on the table.

01:26:27.000 The globalists are seriously considering it.

01:26:30.000 We go back to 2007, Admiral Fox Fallon, the head of CENTCOM, was ordered to launch the attack on Iran, that later came out, and he said no, gave an interview and then resigned.

01:26:42.000 Then Cheney tried to stage the attacks on the ships, that even came out in New Yorker Magazine, with Iranian ships, US ships painted up like Iranians, but that didn't work.

01:26:52.000 I mean, we are on the razor's edge right now, James, this is real.

01:26:56.000 This is incredibly real and all of the different aspects of the way that this Osama Bin Laden PSYOP plays into their hands is mind-boggling. 0.66

01:27:05.000 I mean, not only the fact we're coming up on the 10th anniversary of 9-11, thereby completely undercutting all of the momentum that was going into that for relaunching an investigation into 9-11, all of that undermined as now the official story gets to Tied up in a nice pink little bow with everybody cheering and waving the American flag.

01:27:24.000 And it also plays into the ongoing war.

01:27:28.000 It plays into the distraction from the economy, which I think is a point that Rand Paul was making earlier on, Judge Napolitano.

01:27:36.000 It plays into their hands in so many different ways.

01:27:38.000 And of course, then it just helps to discard one of their old boogeymen that wasn't really doing what they wanted.

01:27:43.000 But personally, I think World War III Well, that's right, James.

01:27:47.000 You just hit the key here.

01:27:48.000 will not get started without some sort of nuclear false flag.

01:27:51.000 And that's what I'm worried about right now, especially given that they were just five days ago releasing these leaked documents that supposedly indicate they have hundreds of nukes buried all over Europe or whatever they're trying to do.

01:28:05.000 Well, that's right, James.

01:28:06.000 You just hit the key here.

01:28:08.000 You can always tell what they're going to do or are thinking about doing by the preparatory phase.

01:28:14.000 And it's nukes out of Pakistan in America.

01:28:17.000 They're going to hit America or Europe. 0.98

01:28:19.000 All of it scripted.

01:28:20.000 All of it building up.

01:28:21.000 Then the CIA agent caught with the uranium.

01:28:23.000 I mean, this all happened.

01:28:25.000 I mean, here's CNN.

01:28:28.000 And first it said, oh, he's not CIA.

01:28:30.000 And then later they had to admit he was.

01:28:31.000 The point is, this is all converging.

01:28:34.000 This is all moving.

01:28:35.000 And you notice it's happening as the dollar is plunging.

01:28:39.000 This is just unspeakable.

01:28:41.000 It is unspeakable and unfortunately I can only see things escalating from here.

01:28:46.000 I don't know if there's a way for them to back out of this at this point because they're going on this momentum right now and we are seeing such incredible movements geopolitically right now that I think to a certain extent this is also a diversionary tactic because we know that the economy is collapsing and they need a boogeyman to blame it on and they're going to use this.

01:29:09.000 Let's finish up with more of the anomalies.

01:29:11.000 And then the clear scripting of all this and all the things they now have had to admit weren't true even inside their official fable.

01:29:20.000 And then let's talk a little bit about Fukushima.

01:29:21.000 You're there in Japan.

01:29:23.000 James Corbett's our guest.

01:29:24.000 Then we're going to talk to another important guest as well.

01:29:31.000 We're on the march.

01:29:32.000 The Empire's on the run.

01:29:35.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:29:41.000 Over the last year, Alex has told you about and many of you have experienced emergencies and disasters in unprecedented numbers.

01:29:48.000 People have had to literally run for their lives.

01:29:50.000 Folks, this is Steve Schenck with eFoots Direct.

01:29:53.000 I'm not here to scare you, but when disaster strikes, you won't have time to think.

01:29:57.000 You must act automatically.

01:29:59.000 What does a pilot do when the helicopter engine fails in flight?

01:30:02.000 No time to think, just act automatically.

01:30:05.000 When the alert is broadcast, the alarm sounds, or the knock comes on your door, you'll need to be ready to act without thinking of what to do or what you need.

01:30:13.000 You need a 5-Day Extreme Emergency Kit.

01:30:16.000 With serious supplies and real food to secure two adults for five days, this powerful $300 Extreme Emergency Kit is free with an order of at least $995 from eFoodsDirect.

01:30:26.000 Go to eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex or call 800-409-5633.

01:30:28.000 That's eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex.

01:30:30.000 or call 800-409-5633.

01:30:34.000 That's eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex, 800-409-5633.

01:30:40.000 A very wealthy U.S.

01:30:41.000 citizen is predicting that in 2011, we will witness the most important day in America in more than 50 years.

01:30:48.000 He says it will change everything about our lives.

01:30:51.000 The way you shop, travel, invest, educate your children, and even how you take care of your health and your own family.

01:30:56.000 Now this man has made some outrageous predictions over the years.

01:30:59.000 The crazy part is, he's usually right.

01:31:02.000 You see, he predicted the collapse of GM, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and America's biggest mall owner, General Growth Properties.

01:31:08.000 In fact, Barron's called his work a dire prophecy.

01:31:11.000 Recently, he created a video, which you can watch online for free, detailing his biggest and most important prediction yet.

01:31:17.000 And it's a real eye-opener.

01:31:19.000 I can't stress this enough.

01:31:20.000 You should at least watch this free video online today.

01:31:23.000 He explains everything you need to know, including simple steps you can take to protect yourself.

01:31:27.000 You can find the video at www.

01:31:30.000 Hi folks, this is Alex Jones.

01:31:43.000 I'm looking for people that have the wisdom to spot savings, opportunity, and recognize risk.

01:31:48.000 Saving means to make money.

01:31:50.000 The Calvin Pure Soap Company can save you thousands of dollars and give you good old-fashioned real soaps that are triple concentrated and twice as good as what you're using now.

01:31:59.000 Soaps made from vegetable and coconut oils that contain no useless dyes, perfumes, deodorants, or antibacterials.

01:32:07.000 Your risk is the hundreds of hazardous toxic detergents that give you rashes, itching sores, and deteriorating clothing called lint.

01:32:15.000 If you want something better, if you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before, getting a free catalog is easy by calling 800- Call 800-340-7091 or see Calvin on the web at FiveStarSoap.com.

01:32:28.000 Take charge of your health now by calling 800-340-7091 or see Calvin on the web at 5starsoap.com.

01:32:52.000 A few more minutes with James Corbett.

01:32:56.000 The Corbett Report.

01:32:57.000 Then O.J.

01:32:58.000 All right.

01:33:00.000 Stone, who's been a guest here with us before, technology writer and researcher, is going to be popping in via video Skype to give us his take on all this.

01:33:00.000 Owen, J.J.

01:33:10.000 And then we have Steve Puchenik, former deputy State Department

01:33:18.000 Deputy Secretary of the State Department under Henry Kissinger, he's going to be joining us because he reportedly worked with Bin Laden and the Mujahideen for many years and he was the first person to go public from a high-level position in 2002 and said that Bin Laden was dead and frozen on ice to be rolled out at an expedient political time.

01:33:42.000 Then they got picked up by Madeleine Albright, many others went public with it.

01:33:47.000 It was big news.

01:33:49.000 That broke here.

01:33:50.000 After nine plus years of not being with us, Mr. Pachenek will be on.

01:33:54.000 He's scheduled coming up in T-minus 26 minutes after Owen J.J.

01:33:58.000 Stone.

01:33:59.000 Finishing up, Mr. Corbett, with any other points about this World War III scenario that we're being maneuvered into, right as the world government is announced, right as the dollar is being destroyed, right as the stock market is plunging, gold and silver up, Treasury to take steps to stay below debt ceiling, That's CNBC.

01:34:18.000 Endgame for China and U.S. 0.99

01:34:20.000 economic standoff, CNBC.

01:34:22.000 Gold versus fiat money, picking a winner.

01:34:24.000 U.S.

01:34:25.000 debt rating should be C, independent agency.

01:34:28.000 See, all of this is going on.

01:34:29.000 stocks fall.

01:34:29.000 U.S.

01:34:30.000 Investors turn defensive.

01:34:32.000 I mean, this is what's happening right now while we're busy watching college kids run around and scream, yeah, USA, USA.

01:34:39.000 What is the USA is disintegrating.

01:34:42.000 But we also have 500 times I want to point out for your listeners and viewers right now that you're so right about all the storm clouds that we can see coming off on the horizon while people are busy partying and we're trying to get ready for it but I want to concur with something you said earlier.

01:35:01.000 You made an exceptionally important point about how people are not falling for this PSYOP.

01:35:05.000 And I've seen that going on online right now as well.

01:35:08.000 I've had over 50,000 views of my Good Morning America Learns Bin Laden is CIA video in the last 24 hours. 0.75

01:35:15.000 And the vast majority of the comments on there are people saying this is ridiculous.

01:35:19.000 They buried the body at sea. 0.96

01:35:21.000 This is this is insane.

01:35:22.000 I don't believe any of this.

01:35:24.000 There are so many people out there right now who are questioning this and people who even Would normally fall for this type of stuff are not falling for it right now.

01:35:31.000 So people really need to get out there and start stressing and pointing out the Al Qaeda myth and all of the various parts of that because I think people are very receptive to it at this moment and this is the moment where we can inoculate people with truth so that they can be armed with truth for when they try to stage whatever type of false flag or whatever type of precipitating event they're going to try to stage.

01:35:51.000 The system is going after the lowest common denominator.

01:35:55.000 I went and saw a month ago the battle for LA about space aliens invading and it's the worst movie I've ever seen.

01:36:03.000 But it was done over-the-top, sicky, sappy, unadmitted Marine Corps ad.

01:36:09.000 And it's not that I'm against the Marine Corps, folks.

01:36:10.000 It was a recruiting ad for kids, with a little kid crying, saying, I'm your little Marine.

01:36:15.000 You are my little Marine.

01:36:16.000 I mean, it is nothing but a giant recruiting ad.

01:36:19.000 They admit the Pentagon pays millions for this to be put in.

01:36:23.000 We know propaganda when we see it.

01:36:26.000 And the point is, we're being propagandized.

01:36:28.000 And it's the same thing with this.

01:36:29.000 The sicky sweet way it's rolled out.

01:36:32.000 How it's done for Lois Commons, the nominator. 0.95

01:36:34.000 Where any thinking person sees how ridiculous it is. 0.66

01:36:38.000 It's just incredible. 0.94

01:36:40.000 Closing points on Japan.

01:36:43.000 Two very important stories came out last week that kind of flew under the radar as the Fukushima situation gets swept under the rug, but two very important points.

01:36:52.000 One of the radiation advisors to the Prime Minister, a professor at a university here, resigned in disgust with the government, saying that they're politicizing what's going on here and they're just tinkering with maximum allowable radiation levels and things like that for political purposes.

01:37:08.000 So that was a very important point that's extremely unusual for advisors to the Prime Minister to just resign out of the blue like that here in Japan.

01:37:15.000 And then another story about the Japanese Meteorological Agency coming under fire because they're doing these detailed fallout, radiation fallout prediction, predicting the path of the fallout and where it's going to go.

01:37:27.000 But they're not releasing it to the public and they're coming under fire for this. 0.66

01:37:29.000 But basically they're saying, oh, the ignorant and uneducated public just wouldn't be able to handle it because they'd panic over this.

01:37:37.000 By the way, the top radiation advisor to the government quit and said levels are much higher than you've said. 0.82

01:37:44.000 You didn't even evacuate schools 12 miles away while the Koreans are wearing masks and not even going out in the last month. 1.00

01:37:52.000 We see the stoic Japanese facade slipping a little bit because some of the parents of those people in that area are starting to get angry and telling the government we don't want our kids playing in these radioactive sandboxes out there. 1.00

01:38:03.000 Yes, and on top of it, you notice you've got Japanese top people coming out and saying they're covering up radiation levels. 0.59

01:38:10.000 They admit 500 times safe levels of different isotopes found in milk and food all over the U.S.

01:38:15.000 because more and more keeps belching out and they say it may be melting down for years now and then building up as it hits us.

01:38:21.000 And our government just raises the radiation level.

01:38:25.000 Thousands of times what it previously was, and says everything's fine, and there's not even a discussion of it here!

01:38:30.000 I mean, this is incredible!

01:38:32.000 It is incredible, and Alex, you're familiar with the video of that mayor of Minamisoma who went on YouTube and said the government's not telling us anything and they're not helping us out?

01:38:42.000 Yes, I am.

01:38:43.000 And with all of the royal wedding diversions and with the diversions with Bin Laden, we're not focusing on a lot of things we should have.

01:38:52.000 And Fukushima's getting worse, for those that don't know.

01:38:54.000 Not better.

01:38:55.000 And that mayor, actually, I'm in touch with someone who's in touch with that mayor, and he wants to come on the program.

01:39:00.000 So I'm going to fire that off to your producer so you can set up an interview with him.

01:39:03.000 Absolutely beautiful.

01:39:05.000 Please send that to Jaren immediately.

01:39:06.000 James Corbett of CorbettReport.com.

01:39:08.000 We'll talk to you again very soon.

01:39:09.000 Be safe over there in Japan.

01:39:11.000 You too, thank you.

01:39:12.000 Alright, we're gonna get connected with Owen J.J.

01:39:15.000 Stone here and have him joining us here in a few minutes.

01:39:20.000 I've been so busy that yesterday and today I haven't even been plugging our sponsors and it is our sponsors that make the radio broadcast Possible.

01:39:36.000 And one of the biggest sponsors is the online video bookstore.

01:39:39.000 Buy films, the t-shirts.

01:39:41.000 When you buy that stuff, you don't just get films to wake up others or a book to raise your level of understanding and to intellectually challenge you and to get the juices flowing.

01:39:50.000 You also financially support this frontline operation against the globalists in defense of the republic and free humanity worldwide.

01:39:57.000 So please think about the online video bookstore shopping cart during these serious times.

01:40:03.000 Please financially support us by purchasing the books, the bumper stickers, the t-shirts, and all orders get Citizen Rule books in them.

01:40:11.000 Very important to support us at InfoWars.com.

01:40:14.000 You can also get a PrisonPlanet.tv membership $5.95 a month, 15 cents a day.

01:40:20.000 See all the films, expanded extras, a higher quality podcast, the video podcast, All at PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:40:29.000 Very easy to sign up there and become a member and support us.

01:40:32.000 I want to thank all the members.

01:40:33.000 We couldn't do any of this without you.

01:40:34.000 This is a true independent platform thanks to your help.

01:40:37.000 Also, the other sponsors that make it possible.

01:40:39.000 Great folks like eFoodsCorrect.com.

01:40:42.000 With the intensifying depression, with the implosion of the dollar, with World War III, a serious possibility.

01:40:48.000 I've never talked like that.

01:40:51.000 All of our experts coming on.

01:40:52.000 You just heard the former head of Pakistani intelligence.

01:40:55.000 I mean, it's in the news.

01:40:56.000 The Chinese are concerned.

01:40:57.000 The globalists are moving.

01:40:59.000 And they'll wrap their attack on the American flag.

01:41:01.000 Everybody needs storable food.

01:41:03.000 And when you get a regular order of their high-quality, gourmet, storable food that lasts more than 10 years at $9.95, you get a free 10-day extreme emergency kit, a $300 value, efoodsdirect.com.

01:41:16.000 That's efoodsdirect.com or 800-409-5633-800.

01:41:21.000 409-5633, don't procrastinate.

01:41:23.000 Also, Diamond Gusset.

01:41:25.000 Uh, is running, uh, specials right now at gusset, g-u-s-s-e-t dot com forward slash sale, gusset dot com forward slash sale, uh, where you can get big discounts, uh, on the products.

01:41:37.000 And they've also got the free MP3 of, uh, Looking for America that has gone as high as number four on the GAC country charts that they help produce and fund, uh, with the great music of Mark Wills, uh, about looking for America, re-industrializing our country, gusset dot com forward slash sale.

01:41:55.000 They've got a lot of specials right now, and the folks at Diamond Gusset want to thank the Alex Jones Show first.

01:42:00.000 They say thank you for playing it here first and making it a hit.

01:42:03.000 Gusset.com forward slash sale.

01:42:06.000 And finally, MySolarBackup.com.

01:42:09.000 We've been promoting these now for almost four years.

01:42:11.000 Our listeners just love them.

01:42:12.000 It's a simple plug-and-play solar panel with a control unit in the battery system.

01:42:15.000 You get a whole bunch of these around your whole house, but it's great for campouts, great for your work shed or to run certain appliances in your home.

01:42:23.000 It's more important than ever to start moving towards getting off the grid.

01:42:26.000 877-327-0365.

01:42:28.000 Individual solar is the way to go, not globalist centralized solar.

01:42:33.000 877-327-0365 or mysolarbackup.com.

01:42:36.000 Check them out today.

01:42:40.000 Now, coming up in about 20 minutes, we'll get him on at 8 after, so it's clean and the full audience hears it.

01:42:47.000 We'll keep Mr. Stone till 5 after.

01:42:50.000 Coming up is Dr. Pchenik, Dr. Steve Pchenik served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and Senior Policy Planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Soltz, and James Baker.

01:43:04.000 George Soltz and James Baker are even above Kissinger.

01:43:06.000 Dr. Pchenik continues to consult the Department of Defense Council on Foreign Relations Fellowship Where he was recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management.

01:43:16.000 I'm not going to go over his whole bio.

01:43:18.000 He's the first person to come out and say that Bin Laden was frozen and dead.

01:43:22.000 Confirmed, April 2002, on my show.

01:43:26.000 And then I had other White House officials that were current approach me.

01:43:29.000 And then, of course, then you saw Madeleine Albright and everybody else come out a year later and say it was true.

01:43:34.000 Folks, this is big news.

01:43:35.000 It's coming up next hour.

01:43:37.000 I'm doing a fourth hour of overdrive just to take your calls.

01:43:39.000 But joining us now, because I like the points that He was basically making Owen J.J.

01:43:46.000 Stone co-host some of the biggest radio programs in the country like This Week in Tech with Leo Laporte.

01:43:52.000 He has his own programs.

01:43:54.000 Owenjjstone.com.

01:43:56.000 He's the founder of the Inquiring Minds Media.

01:44:00.000 Pardon me?

01:44:02.000 Minds Media.

01:44:02.000 Oh, thank you.

01:44:04.000 Just that mic's so low, guys.

01:44:05.000 I really don't ever... That's the kind of why it's such a big issue, because I don't ever really hear when you say stuff.

01:44:10.000 Internet TV show host, public speaker on topics including social media, technology, and politics.

01:44:16.000 And we now bring him to the airwaves to go over some of the points and questions that he has with the capture of bin Laden.

01:44:25.000 Owen, good to have you on with us.

01:44:27.000 Thanks for having me on, Alex.

01:44:28.000 I appreciate it.

01:44:28.000 Well, break it down.

01:44:29.000 You've got a whole laundry list here. 0.97

01:44:31.000 Does not end the war.

01:44:32.000 I mean, you just run through the inconsistencies.

01:44:36.000 Well, Sunday night, you know, like everybody else, I sat on the Internet and I made jokes about Osama being dead. 0.51

01:44:43.000 And it was funny and all that kind of stuff.

01:44:45.000 Had a good time.

01:44:45.000 And as soon as the president got done talking, I turned off my television and I just watched the stream on Twitter and Facebook of people talking about what CNN was saying, Fox was already making mistakes and stumbling on themselves, and I just was like, and that's exactly why I turned off mainstream media.

01:44:59.000 And, you know, it's all fun and games to say, oh, the guy's dead, but the way that people reacted, I mean, people ran to ground zero.

01:45:07.000 I have a lot of friends in New York.

01:45:08.000 I do business in New York.

01:45:09.000 I'm there all the time.

01:45:10.000 There are two holes in the ground after 10 years.

01:45:13.000 And for people to run to that scene to cry and sing and jump on top of lampposts drives me insane.

01:45:19.000 I'm like, 10 years, Osama won. 0.99

01:45:21.000 So whether he was dead five years ago, or he was dead yesterday, or he's not dead, the guy won.

01:45:28.000 10 years of terror, we haven't built a tent In New York City, ground zero.

01:45:32.000 And the President wants to go there on Thursday, for what?

01:45:34.000 To look at two holes in the ground?

01:45:36.000 It's insane to me.

01:45:38.000 And you know, after Sunday night of having fun with it, it's just like, well, there goes the talk on the economy, there goes the talk on education, let's ramp up more talk on war, and we're obviously not going to cut that out of the budget.

01:45:50.000 So my mind blew, and listening to your show today, you know, the thing is, it doesn't even matter if the guy's dead or not, because of all the other stuff that they're going to do, in spite of whether he's dead or not.

01:46:00.000 Well, you hit the nail on the head.

01:46:04.000 All over talk radio, all over television, liberal, conservative, it's all the same.

01:46:10.000 We're going to get back on national security now.

01:46:14.000 Even if we don't have new wars, it's good to get folks unified and worried about an outside threat.

01:46:20.000 That'll help the economy.

01:46:22.000 They want to divert everybody on the plunging dollar, everything else that's happening.

01:46:26.000 And now they want to frame Pakistan.

01:46:28.000 If you were listening, oh doctor, then you heard our last guest, and you heard General Gould earlier.

01:46:33.000 I mean, they're clearly trying to frame Pakistan for this.

01:46:36.000 And Gould pointed out, U.S.

01:46:38.000 intelligence is all over our country.

01:46:40.000 Your military's here.

01:46:41.000 You didn't know he was there for six years?

01:46:43.000 I mean, this story is just impossible.

01:46:45.000 And now they dump the body in the ocean?

01:46:48.000 Well, the fun thing about that is two things.

01:46:51.000 First, I'll talk about from the ground level.

01:46:53.000 You know, I'm not an expert on a lot of fields in this space, but I do talk to people.

01:46:56.000 And people in New York, it was split between, oh, happy day and, oh my God, what's going to happen?

01:47:01.000 They instantly put that fear into people.

01:47:03.000 As soon as they got done saying Osama was dead, they instantly flipped on the switch of, well, there might be retaliation.

01:47:09.000 There might be retaliation.

01:47:11.000 Every single outlet, every single major news network said it.

01:47:14.000 And the problem with America is, people get tired really quick of negativity.

01:47:19.000 So maybe they don't listen to shows like yours or listen to The Corrections.

01:47:22.000 They listen that first night, the next day, and then they turn it off.

01:47:26.000 So they're all they got is Osama's dead.

01:47:27.000 They throw him off.

01:47:28.000 They don't know the lies that they've already been caught in or anything like that.

01:47:32.000 So it's really the machine has already started.

01:47:35.000 And, you know, thank God for the Internet.

01:47:37.000 Thank God for independent shows like yourself, because people just need to understand that.

01:47:42.000 You know, what are you supposed to be afraid of?

01:47:43.000 If you're going to be afraid, you're supposed to be afraid the last 10 years.

01:47:45.000 Regardless, the guy's dead.

01:47:47.000 Apparently, whatever.

01:47:49.000 It's not going to raise my threat level unless the government wants to raise the threat level.

01:47:53.000 I mean, our previous president told us there were weapons of mass destruction and there weren't.

01:47:56.000 So I'm supposed to believe this president to tell me that there's weapons of mass destruction?

01:48:00.000 It's a tired, sad game and heaven forbid if we fall for it.

01:48:05.000 Especially after watching Japan.

01:48:06.000 You and I just talked about Japan last month and you were right on the fact that they were covering up stuff and lying the day after I was on your show.

01:48:13.000 They had to come out and retract a lot of things and pull things back.

01:48:16.000 So people should know they can't trust governments.

01:48:20.000 They should know.

01:48:20.000 Well that's the central point is a credibility issue.

01:48:24.000 Government lies even when the truth would serve them because they're liars. 0.87

01:48:28.000 And they're constantly lying. 0.96

01:48:30.000 They're constantly being caught in lies.

01:48:32.000 Remember Jessica Lynch?

01:48:34.000 where they said she was this big commando woman and killed all these Iraqis and it turned out she cowered and it wasn't true and when the survivors said it wasn't true they were all killed.

01:48:44.000 I mean folks looked that up and then she went public and said it's true I was hiding under the thing and they had Jerry Bruckheimer, a script saving her from the hospital when the Iraqis had pulled out three days before.

01:48:56.000 And the Iraqi doctors had contacted the Americans saying, you know, come get her.

01:49:00.000 And so they scripted a whole Hollywood thing saving her.

01:49:03.000 And remember Pat Tillman?

01:49:05.000 It came out that they murdered him.

01:49:06.000 They killed him.

01:49:07.000 They shot him at a distance.

01:49:10.000 Later the unit admitted he begged for help.

01:49:12.000 And then somebody went up there and shot him three times in the head at point blank three feet away.

01:49:16.000 And the media said Al Qaeda killed him.

01:49:18.000 Of course they lie.

01:49:19.000 I mean, what do people think?

01:49:21.000 Well, the biggest thing about Pat Tillman is his parents.

01:49:26.000 He was a football player.

01:49:27.000 You can't kill a football player and get away with it.

01:49:29.000 His parents immediately went to the mainstream media.

01:49:31.000 You can't take them out.

01:49:33.000 So they get to champion for him.

01:49:34.000 And if they weren't relentless, that story would have been covered up.

01:49:37.000 And as far as this female officer, my daughter's never going into the military, because as much as they want to talk about that, they never talk about how many women are sexually harassed and or raped.

01:49:46.000 Uh, overseas in the military.

01:49:48.000 You know, they always suppress that.

01:49:49.000 Oh yeah, well most women in the military are basically camp girls, yeah. 1.00

01:49:54.000 Yeah, so, you know, they don't ever want to talk about that issue.

01:49:56.000 You know, you see the special on HBO, they run like once or twice and they get pulled off because it's bad, bad business.

01:50:03.000 And like you said, the government pays a lot of money to a lot of media outlets to perform and project this image.

01:50:10.000 And, uh, you know, at some point it's got to stop.

01:50:12.000 I keep telling people, like, It's not a war on drugs.

01:50:15.000 You know, you can get drugs anytime you want.

01:50:17.000 Anybody listening to this program knows somebody that can get them drugs.

01:50:20.000 And if you don't know somebody, you can go to your pharmacist down the street and get quote-unquote legal drugs prescribed to you.

01:50:26.000 But they can't stop drugs.

01:50:28.000 The war on terror?

01:50:29.000 Who's terror?

01:50:29.000 I don't know what terror is.

01:50:30.000 I'm scared my dog might run into the street.

01:50:32.000 Is that terror?

01:50:33.000 I don't know.

01:50:34.000 Stay there! 0.92

01:50:35.000 Stay there! 0.92

01:50:35.000 Let's break it more down with Owen J.J. 0.92

01:50:37.000 Stone, the O-Doctor.

01:50:38.000 I'm Alex Jones, InfoWars.com.

01:50:41.000 Hi, this is Alex Jones.

01:50:42.000 Did you know that the global elite are now storing non-hybrid seeds in secret storage vaults near the Arctic Circle?

01:50:48.000 Did you know that in a real meltdown, non-hybrid seeds could become more valuable than silver or gold?

01:50:53.000 It's true.

01:50:53.000 Seeds have outperformed even gold and silver before in this country.

01:50:56.000 And it's possible they could even happen again.

01:50:58.000 So our friends at Solutions from Science have put together the perfect mix of non-hybrid seeds. 0.84

01:51:03.000 They call it a Survival Seed Bank.

01:51:06.000 And it can produce an endless supply of nutrient-dense food for you and your family.

01:51:10.000 And here's the best part.

01:51:12.000 These seeds have not been genetically modified in any way.

01:51:15.000 And you actually get enough seeds to plant a full acre crisis garden.

01:51:18.000 So visit them today at SurvivalSeedBank.com.

01:51:21.000 That's SurvivalSeedBank.com.

01:51:24.000 Or give them a call at 877-327-0365.

01:51:28.000 That's 877-327-0365.

01:51:31.000 Remember, in a real crisis, non-hybrid seeds are the ultimate barter item. 1.00

01:51:37.000 This is Alex Jones for survivalseedbank.com.

01:51:40.000 You know your gear can make the difference between a good day and a really bad day.

01:51:45.000 It's time to prepare, and quality gear from EMGear.net is the critical factor for surviving in the toughest conditions.

01:51:51.000 You'll find only the best gear from quality manufacturers at EMGear.net, like Maxpedition Hard Use Gear, Everly Stock Backpacks, Snugpak Sleeping Bags, Essie Knives, Ultimate Survival Fire Starters, Waterproof Bags, Adventure Medical Kits, Surefire Flashlights, and Tactical Gear from SOTEC, Spec Ops, Tactical, tailor and more.

01:52:10.000 Our staff knows the gear inside and out and will answer all your questions.

01:52:13.000 EMGear.net always treats you with first class customer service, affordable pricing and a low $5.95 flat rate domestic shipping fee, no matter the size of your order.

01:52:22.000 And EMGear.net stocks what we sell in our warehouse and never drop ships any orders.

01:52:26.000 Call 678-455-5850.

01:52:27.000 That's 678-455-5850.

01:52:27.000 Or see our complete line at EMGear.net.

01:52:28.000 That's 678-455-5850.

01:52:31.000 Or see our complete line at emgear.net.

01:52:34.000 For tactical, survival, and everyday carry, choose emgear.net.

01:52:38.000 Tough.

01:52:38.000 Rugged.

01:52:39.000 Reliable.

01:52:42.000 Are you still a traditional smoker?

01:52:44.000 Now experience a new lifestyle and try vaping with e-cigarettes by Le Cig.

01:52:49.000 Imagine no ashes, stains, nasty smell or coughing and hacking with Le Cig e-cigarettes revolutionary microelectronic technology, rechargeable battery and unique replaceable cartridge.

01:53:00.000 You'll get all the benefits and satisfaction of smoking without the hazards.

01:53:04.000 Choose your taste from a wide variety of our new American-made vape-free at eliquids at lasig.com.

01:53:10.000 And Lasig smokes the competition by serving thousands of worldwide customers with real people customer service.

01:53:16.000 Fast, free, same-day shipping and a 30-day warranty and satisfaction guarantee.

01:53:21.000 So are you ready for a new vaping lifestyle?

01:53:24.000 Then call 870-518-4307.

01:53:25.000 That's 870-518-4307.

01:53:25.000 Or visit lecig.com.

01:53:26.000 Spelled L-E-C-I-G.com.

01:53:26.000 4307.

01:53:28.000 That's 870-518-4307.

01:53:31.000 Or visit lecig.com, spelled L-E-C-I-G.com.

01:53:36.000 Lecig e-cigarettes for today's modern smoker.

01:53:39.000 Ladies and gentlemen,

01:54:04.000 I tend to get overheated here on air with all the facts, all the info, all the research.

01:54:10.000 I I mean, I've interviewed the heads of the embassies, I've interviewed Sybil Edmonds, the FBI translator that heard the CIA commanding al-Qaeda for months before 9-11, running white slavery, that's sex slaves, running drugs, running weapons.

01:54:28.000 Running in communication with someone calling himself Osama Bin Laden.

01:54:32.000 She didn't know.

01:54:33.000 But it was CIA.

01:54:34.000 I mean, that's on record!

01:54:38.000 She testified to Congress and they gagged her! 0.98

01:54:42.000 And there's hundreds of these people!

01:54:45.000 There's hundreds of them!

01:54:46.000 People are like, well why are you saying you don't believe the official story?

01:54:48.000 Why are you believing anything that comes out of their mouths?

01:54:51.000 This is the government that stole tens of trillions of your tax money and gave it to foreign banks and wouldn't let you know where it went and wouldn't tell Congress and finally lawsuits got filed by private interest and they found out about 5% of it or a little less and it was almost a trillion bucks?

01:55:08.000 Much of it to MSNBC secretly and others?

01:55:12.000 We got a crew of gangsters running things!

01:55:16.000 And now they're trying to frame Pakistan! 0.70

01:55:18.000 Going back to the O-Doctor, and that's Owen J.J.

01:55:22.000 Stone, going through more of these points, we're now seeing literally hundreds of articles with the media pointing out that a lot of people aren't buying this.

01:55:31.000 It's funny, the Tea Party folks and some of the Republicans aren't buying it because they don't like Obama and they see it as a political score for him, but those that are sophisticated know Obama, Bush, they come and go.

01:55:42.000 These people are front men.

01:55:43.000 What's your take on that?

01:55:45.000 To end my point last time, it's the war on finance.

01:55:48.000 All this stuff you just said about the money going somewhere, that's our war that no one wants to talk about.

01:55:52.000 That's the war the government never wants to say the words to you.

01:55:54.000 But it's the war on finance.

01:55:56.000 The poor get poor.

01:55:57.000 So they, you know, white slavery, trade slavery, slavery in general, because you're stuck at the bottom and you can't do anything without money.

01:56:03.000 You can't make go-packs to survive.

01:56:06.000 You can't run out of the country for a couple of months if, you know, S hits the fan.

01:56:10.000 You're kind of screwed if you don't have capital and the right capital and the right investments.

01:56:15.000 You know, you promote gold and silver and stuff with some of your advertisements. 0.85

01:56:18.000 Things that people just don't know about.

01:56:20.000 And, you know, the president being a front man, he's a smiley, happy guy.

01:56:24.000 You know, I don't even not like the president.

01:56:25.000 I like the president.

01:56:26.000 He's a fun, happy guy.

01:56:28.000 I don't know what he does.

01:56:29.000 I don't really know, you know, what he gets done.

01:56:32.000 If you just watch the fact that you have to sit there and listen to somebody like Donald Trump, then he goes and pulls out his birth certificate.

01:56:38.000 Oh, so let's shut Donald Trump down.

01:56:40.000 Then he makes fun of Donald Trump on Saturday, all night long in this congression.

01:56:43.000 Then Sunday night he drops his bin Laden bomb. 0.74

01:56:45.000 I'm like, if that's not a PR reel, if that's not you sat down with a PR agent and they said, okay, we're going to hit him with a softball, a medium ball, and we're going to bring it home with this.

01:56:53.000 And then Monday, and then Monday with all cameras on you, you'll present posthumous Medal of Honor and they'll talk, I mean it's all, exactly.

01:57:01.000 You're a media guy, you can see the scripting.

01:57:04.000 Jerry Bruckheimer scripted Saving Private Lynch, and it turned out it was all fake, and then people were murdered!

01:57:13.000 US Army was murdered who said it was a lie!

01:57:16.000 And then it came out it was a lie!

01:57:18.000 These people script things!

01:57:19.000 Of course it's bull!

01:57:21.000 It's, you know what it is!

01:57:23.000 It's a show.

01:57:24.000 It's a show.

01:57:24.000 And anybody who has any watched any kind of sitcom or TV show, you know you ramp them up with something light, and then you hit them with something in the middle, and then you bring it home at the end of the show.

01:57:32.000 And that's all it is. 0.93

01:57:33.000 And I mean, literally, the news was dominated by a freaking couple getting married. 0.97

01:57:37.000 They spent $36 million. 0.97

01:57:38.000 That's not our money, but taxpayers' money.

01:57:40.000 That shows you how much the rich care about the poor.

01:57:42.000 I mean, England's screwed with their finances, but they got enough money to spend $36 million on a wedding for rich kids?

01:57:48.000 Okay, that's how the rich think, and that's how the powerful think.

01:57:52.000 So you sit there and you watch the president, he knocks that out of the mainstream media with his birth certificate.

01:57:56.000 And then, like I said, he sits there and they have dinner.

01:58:00.000 A $10,000, $20,000 plate to sit there and watch this guy make jokes.

01:58:03.000 I mean, you talk about finances, I mean, a billion dollars he's raising for a campaign.

01:58:08.000 Hey, he knows they're about to tag bin Laden.

01:58:10.000 This could start a war with Pakistan.

01:58:12.000 Special forces are going in.

01:58:14.000 He'd be there planning and watching.

01:58:15.000 He would cancel the press dinner.

01:58:18.000 Exactly!

01:58:18.000 It's all staged!

01:58:19.000 Stay with us!

01:58:22.000 You are listening to GCN.

01:58:26.000 Visit GCNlive.com today.

01:58:31.000 You've heard Alex explain how the Silver Lungs Generator infuses the respiratory system with your self-produced colloidal silver solutions, yet many are unaware of the entire function of the Silver Lungs System and how it has been designed to deliver your silver solutions anywhere in or on the body.

01:58:47.000 My name is Mario Cifaldi, and I'm the developer of the Silver Lungs Generator.

01:58:51.000 Not only does the Silver Lungs System produce endless colloidal and ionic silver solutions, it also comes equipped with the proper applicators and devices needed to deliver your silver solutions directly to key target areas.

01:59:04.000 This includes the eyes, ears, nose, lungs, topically to the skin, and orally for the digestive system.

01:59:12.000 Be sure to watch our new 7-minute video tour of the Silver Lungs System at www.SilverLungs.com to learn more about how the Silver Lungs System works.

01:59:22.000 As well, we are always ready to answer any questions you may have.

01:59:26.000 That's www.SilverLungs.com.

01:59:33.000 Waging war on corruption.

01:59:35.000 Alex Jones on the GCM Radio Network.

01:59:38.000 Big Brother.

01:59:46.000 Mainstream media.

01:59:47.000 Government cover-ups.

01:59:50.000 You want answers?

01:59:52.000 Well, so does he.

01:59:53.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:59:57.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:04.000 Dr. Steve Buchanan coming up in T-minus eight minutes.

02:00:06.000 This is going to be bombshell.

02:00:09.000 If you just joined us, you want inside intel somebody that knows Osama Bin Laden, who was the head deputy under Henry Kissinger at the State Department, and others?

02:00:18.000 You're about to get it, ladies and gentlemen.

02:00:21.000 He's got a lot of courage coming on our show, and knowing that we were going to get him on today, I was driving a little safer, watching my back.

02:00:29.000 Let me tell you, the system is not going to like what you're about to hear.

02:00:33.000 So, going back to Owen J.J.

02:00:36.000 Stone of owenjjstone.com, technology researcher, commentary, TV host, radio host.

02:00:44.000 That's it.

02:00:45.000 It's the cut of the tailor.

02:00:46.000 It's the hype.

02:00:47.000 It's the cheesiness.

02:00:48.000 It's the pep rally.

02:00:49.000 It's the scripting.

02:00:50.000 And then it's all the lies.

02:00:52.000 I mean, when you heard that they'd thrown his body in the ocean...

02:00:56.000 That was the best thing that happened.

02:00:58.000 That was the best thing that happened to America.

02:01:00.000 When they told me that they put this man's body in the ocean, I was like, oh, thank you, because that's something people can't believe.

02:01:05.000 You know, 9-11 buildings exploding, you know, they got scientists against it and for, you know, people wanna argue.

02:01:11.000 The fact that they didn't bring this fool's body home, you've been looking for a guy for 10 years and you throw him in the ocean?

02:01:17.000 You throw him in the biggest place that nobody could ever find him. 0.98

02:01:20.000 You throw him in the ocean, you don't incinerate him, you know, and then you wanna tell me DNA?

02:01:24.000 You threw him in the ocean?

02:01:25.000 Thank you.

02:01:26.000 I thank the government for saying that they threw a zombie line in the ocean.

02:01:29.000 Because my daughter's three years old and she couldn't believe that story. 0.85

02:01:33.000 She'd be like, Daddy, why didn't they bring the prince home to show everybody and parade him through the streets?

02:01:37.000 Nobody could believe that.

02:01:38.000 No one.

02:01:41.000 And remember the first photo they put out was a Photoshop and folks didn't and all these newspapers had it posted as a real photo of the dead bin Laden and then they just kind of said oh that was fake too and now they say oh yeah he didn't fight back and he didn't throw his wife in front of him and That's a trick liars do.

02:02:00.000 They're like, oh, my general story's true.

02:02:02.000 We did kill bin Laden, but there were a few things we got wrong.

02:02:05.000 You're like, oh, well, you told me the truth on that.

02:02:06.000 It's kind of like when I go to the cookie jar, an entire bag of cookies have been stolen.

02:02:11.000 And I go to my son and my daughters, and I call them before me, and I say, who stole the cookies?

02:02:16.000 And they'll sit there and go, uh, well I only ate one, I mean 20, I mean, I'm sorry.

02:02:22.000 This is incredible.

02:02:23.000 The best thing about things like pictures and videos anymore, they're programs that techies run, that they can scan and see if it's been photoshopped.

02:02:31.000 So, I mean, the mainstream media should know this.

02:02:34.000 There are people out there that are highly skilled, way more skilled than them, and working independently, that fact check these things.

02:02:42.000 I mean, literally, there's a program that runs that'll tell you if a picture's been photoshopped or not.

02:02:47.000 But instead, they still put it out there because mainstream people don't get it.

02:02:50.000 They don't know.

02:02:51.000 So they just want to trick those people and get the ball rolling and drag us into another war if we want to.

02:02:57.000 I mean, again, people are...

02:02:59.000 going broke right now.

02:03:01.000 The gas is too high and people are getting rich off of that.

02:03:03.000 Exxon just posted, you know, a trillion dollars would ever last quarter profit.

02:03:07.000 I mean, people are sick and tired of it.

02:03:08.000 They just can't handle it anymore.

02:03:10.000 You hear GE making $14 billion in profit, not paying one cent in taxes.

02:03:14.000 People can't handle it.

02:03:16.000 And thank God they put this man in the ocean.

02:03:18.000 Do you know what?

02:03:19.000 It just made me laugh.

02:03:20.000 Do you know what happened just down the road from me?

02:03:22.000 I've been to the hotel and the bar in San Antonio.

02:03:24.000 It's across the street from the Alamo, where the Rough Riders, Teddy Roosevelt, William Randolph Hearst, and others got the order to go start a war in Cuba as the pretext to start the war with the Spanish.

02:03:36.000 Then, of course, they blew up this battleship Maine as a pretext, as a false flag, to attack all the Spanish possessions in the Pacific, Philippines, you name it.

02:03:45.000 But William Randolph Hearst told all of his illustrators with his newspapers, he said, you provide the paintings, the images, I'll provide the war.

02:03:54.000 And they ran fake, they were even able to do this then, illustrations and even doctored photos in newspapers nationwide that they were engaged in atrocities in Cuba, the Spanish.

02:04:06.000 And later they admitted it was all fake.

02:04:08.000 And that's what they're doing.

02:04:09.000 This is the modern yellow journalism. 0.81

02:04:12.000 It's set up to play that game.

02:04:14.000 And again, you know, so you said PR stunt and everything's set up so that people will believe something.

02:04:19.000 But when you make a big mistake after big mistake after big mistake, people can't swallow it.

02:04:24.000 You know, if you're going to tell me the guy's dead, just tell me his DNA.

02:04:27.000 Tell me you set up a shot of rocket in there. 1.00

02:04:29.000 You know, when you said the helicopter, I mean, these people don't even think they think that Americans are so stupid. 1.00

02:04:34.000 Absolutely. 1.00

02:04:35.000 They think Americans are like those folks at the White House demonstrating.

02:04:38.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

02:04:40.000 This is Alex Jones with 5 good reasons you should consider buying a solar power generator.

02:04:45.000 Number 1.

02:04:46.000 New climate legislation could easily double or triple your electric bill.

02:04:49.000 Number 2.

02:04:50.000 Our new energy czar wants to control how much power your electric company allows you to have.

02:04:55.000 It's true.

02:04:56.000 Total government control of electricity in the name of smart grid technology is coming.

02:05:01.000 Number 3.

02:05:01.000 In some areas of the country, the power grid is dangerously overloaded.

02:05:05.000 And now, new socialist legislation is only compounding the problem.

02:05:09.000 Number 4.

02:05:10.000 Dangerous weather is always a threat to local grids.

02:05:12.000 Every year, thousands of families lose their power from weather-related outages.

02:05:16.000 Number 5.

02:05:17.000 A solar power generator provides powerful backup, insurance, and peace of mind.

02:05:21.000 Folks, I really believe in the solar power generators offered by Solutions from Science, one of my oldest sponsors.

02:05:26.000 You can get more information at www.mysolarbackup.com.

02:05:30.000 That's mysolarbackup.com.

02:05:32.000 Remember, the government doesn't own the sun.

02:05:34.000 So go to mysolarbackup.com or call 1-877-327-0365.

02:05:40.000 Diamond Gusset is proud to announce the anthem of the Patriot movement.

02:05:44.000 They're offering a free CD, t-shirt, and bumper sticker with a qualifying purchase.

02:05:48.000 Diamond Gusset offers great products at great prices while keeping Americans working.

02:05:53.000 I'm looking for a factory We're American and be proud.

02:05:57.000 I'm looking for America.

02:06:12.000 We're American and be proud.

02:06:16.000 Go to gusset.com forward slash America.

02:06:18.000 Again, go to gusset.com forward slash America today. go to gusset.com forward slash America today.

02:06:40.000 Over the last year, Alex has told you about and many of you have experienced emergencies and disasters in unprecedented numbers.

02:06:47.000 People have had to literally run for their lives.

02:06:50.000 Folks, this is Steve Schenck with E-Foods Direct.

02:06:52.000 I'm not here to scare you, but when disaster strikes, you won't have time to think.

02:06:57.000 You must act automatically.

02:06:58.000 What does a pilot do when the helicopter engine fails in flight?

02:07:02.000 No time to think, just act automatically.

02:07:05.000 When the alert is broadcast, the alarm sounds, or the knock comes on your door, you'll need to be ready to act without thinking of what to do or what you need.

02:07:13.000 You need a 5-Day Extreme Emergency Kit.

02:07:16.000 With serious supplies and real food to secure two adults for five days, this powerful $300 Extreme Emergency Kit is free with an order of at least $995 from eFoodsDirect.

02:07:26.000 Go to eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex or call 800-409-5633.

02:07:28.000 That's eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex.

02:07:30.000 or call 800-409-5633.

02:07:33.000 That's eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex. 800-409-5633.

02:07:39.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

02:07:43.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:07:47.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:07:56.000 It's just incredible information.

02:07:58.000 In early 2002, I was put in touch with Dr. Steve Pachinik.

02:08:06.000 And I'll give you his bio, very prestigious here in a moment.

02:08:10.000 Working under the biggest kingmakers in modern U.S.

02:08:12.000 history, the trifecta, James Baker, George Shultz, Henry Kissinger, and Cyrus Vance.

02:08:19.000 But the big three from all of our sources, George Shultz, James Baker, way above even Kissinger.

02:08:24.000 That's why you don't even see them out there.

02:08:27.000 And these are the guys that go right to the elite of the world and are their imperial legates, the people that speak for them, that make the deals with China, with Russia.

02:08:36.000 They're the envoys.

02:08:37.000 They're the above-government power brokers that are the spokesmen of the collective elite and these top councils.

02:08:47.000 And he was their deputy, all three of them.

02:08:49.000 And then Cyrus Vance is well high-powered, all four of them.

02:08:53.000 And I got him on the show.

02:08:56.000 And he also a CFR fellow at the time.

02:09:00.000 I got him on the show and he just basically said this whole war on terror is a hoax.

02:09:04.000 And he said the intel is they've got Bin Laden dead on ice and they're going to roll him out sometime in the future.

02:09:11.000 And I said ice?

02:09:12.000 He goes literally.

02:09:13.000 Now then about a year later at an event I had a well-known Republican, part of the Bush administration.

02:09:21.000 I mean well-known enough that I knew who they were.

02:09:24.000 call me aside at an event and say, listen, this is off record, because I was already known then as being somebody who can keep secrets if it's off record as a journalist.

02:09:32.000 The more secrets you keep, the more secrets you get.

02:09:34.000 That's why so many pour in.

02:09:37.000 The MIAC, Homeland Security Reports, you name it, we're regular WikiLeaks here.

02:09:41.000 It's just that our info is real, not sprinkled like theirs.

02:09:45.000 Now, Dr. Pachinik came on, and then Hades broke loose after he came on.

02:09:51.000 He said he was on ice and all this happened.

02:09:53.000 And I looked up Pachinik.

02:09:54.000 I mean, he was there with the Mujahideen, knew these people.

02:09:59.000 Talk about somebody who's living history.

02:10:01.000 I mean, he's seen so much of it.

02:10:03.000 But then after...

02:10:05.000 I talked to one White House official and then another person well known to me got it from another White House source.

02:10:10.000 I'm just going to leave it at that.

02:10:11.000 So two sources that I actually talked to, one on air, one privately, and then the other through someone I know for decades who was told the same information.

02:10:20.000 And they said, this isn't a rumor, right?

02:10:22.000 They said, no, he's dead.

02:10:24.000 The intel was, it was a cover story of the kidney stuff.

02:10:27.000 He reportedly was sick from that, that he They went ahead and got rid of him because he was putting those letters out saying, I didn't do it.

02:10:32.000 They wanted to take his identity and have him say he did.

02:10:35.000 But Dr. Pichinik can correct me if I'm wrong.

02:10:38.000 And that they did send in special forces.

02:10:40.000 So in a way, it's true.

02:10:40.000 And they killed him and have had him literally frozen.

02:10:44.000 Now they throw him in the ocean.

02:10:45.000 You know, all this stuff comes out. 0.98

02:10:47.000 It's just ridiculous. 0.62

02:10:48.000 They put out a photo two days ago that was fake. 0.86

02:10:51.000 Now they say another one's coming.

02:10:53.000 So all of this is happening.

02:10:55.000 But a year after I talked to him, these other sources told me the same thing.

02:11:00.000 And then about six months later, Madeleine Albright went on Fox News.

02:11:02.000 We have links to all those articles and videos.

02:11:05.000 In our article, Inside Sources, Bin Laden's corpse has been on ice for nearly a decade.

02:11:10.000 That has all the bibliography there for you.

02:11:12.000 And I'm just prefacing this before we go to Dr. Petranek, because it's so important and a lot of folks are tuning in and watching right now.

02:11:18.000 A record audience.

02:11:21.000 That Madeleine Albright came out and said, the word is he's on ice.

02:11:25.000 Use that same term and they're going to be rolling him out for the election.

02:11:28.000 Then Walter Cronkite, Bohemian Grove, super high level, hanging out with the top people.

02:11:33.000 That's kind of the Democratic wing.

02:11:35.000 They got word that this was going to happen if Bush needed it.

02:11:38.000 Then Teresa Hines Carey came out as the proxy for her husband and said, yeah, this is the word.

02:11:44.000 So that scared Bush into not releasing it.

02:11:47.000 By the way, I got threats over this.

02:11:49.000 All sorts of dirty tricks when I was pushing this.

02:11:51.000 And then it receded into history for another six, seven years.

02:11:55.000 And now it's back, exactly the script we were told.

02:11:58.000 So if you're a new listener, or if you're the Washington Post, or the New York Times, or New York Magazine, or LA Times attacking me over this, actually a few of the articles are actually pretty fair, but some of them are ridiculous, like the New York Magazine.

02:12:13.000 Or the Atlantic with Jeff Goldberg.

02:12:17.000 They're attacking us in cartoonish ways.

02:12:21.000 If you're doubting this, look at the history we already have.

02:12:23.000 Benazir Bhutto.

02:12:25.000 Coming out and saying, look, bin Laden's dead.

02:12:28.000 Stop using him as a pretext to be in Pakistan.

02:12:30.000 A week later, she's killed.

02:12:32.000 Our media says she hit her head.

02:12:34.000 And then they released video of her being machine gunned by the assassin.

02:12:38.000 And the word from Hamid Gul and others, former head of Pakistani intelligence, is the White House pulled the trigger on her.

02:12:44.000 Um, now our guests start telling us, and our experts are telling us, there's going to be a move against Pakistan the last month. 0.83

02:12:50.000 Then they catch this CIA operative, CNN reports, with the uranium, trying to get it to Mujahideen, to then blame it on the regular army of Pakistan to build the case to snatch their nukes, which will bring China in, folks. 0.90

02:13:03.000 This could be World War III.

02:13:06.000 So all of that's happening.

02:13:08.000 You have all these other world leaders that have said this.

02:13:10.000 Now, I'm going to try to now give the floor to our guest, Dr. Steve Pucinich, serve as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and Senior Policy Planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Shultz, talk about knowing where the bodies are buried, and James Baker.

02:13:28.000 Uh, Dr. Pachenek continues to consult the Department of Defense.

02:13:31.000 He received a Council on Foreign Relations Fellowship, where he was recruited by Lawrence Edelberger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management.

02:13:39.000 In the position he was, he created the Office of Combat Terrorism, the family liaison.

02:13:45.000 And it just goes on.

02:13:48.000 Um, for a long time.

02:13:49.000 Dr. Pachinik is the author and creator of 26 New York Times bestsellers.

02:13:53.000 His experiences in government, international crisis management, uh, were the basis of Tom Clancy's characters Jack, Ryan, and Richard Clark.

02:14:00.000 And the website is stevepachinik.com.

02:14:04.000 Poczenik, P-I-E-C-Z-E-N-I-K. 1.00

02:14:07.000 StevePoczenik.com.

02:14:08.000 We'll get links up at Infowars.com.

02:14:10.000 And we're going to skip this network break coming up.

02:14:12.000 This is so important.

02:14:13.000 Dr. Poczenik, thank you so much for coming on.

02:14:16.000 I'm going to try to sit back, give you the floor to talk about what's currently happened, some of the history involved with these players.

02:14:24.000 Bin Laden, who, going back to the interview that you intimately know, thank you for joining us.

02:14:31.000 It is a great pleasure and an honor.

02:14:33.000 I want to thank you, Alex.

02:14:34.000 I want to thank what you said.

02:14:36.000 I think very much of what you said is very accurate.

02:14:39.000 I will correct some of the issues that I think we've talked about, but I want to thank your audience for listening. 0.99

02:14:44.000 I want to say how important Alex Jones was after 9-11, when I knew very well at that time that the American public was being deceived and was being treated as if we were fools, stupid, ignorant, and cheats. 0.94

02:14:59.000 I had hoped at that time, once I was on the Alex Jones Show, and I broke ranks with my people at the Council on Foreign Relations, I'm a member also of the Association of Foreign Intelligence Officers, the National Military Intelligence Association, And I volunteer repeatedly. 0.95

02:15:17.000 I volunteer to still work with our military because number one, I respect our military.

02:15:22.000 Number two, we have sent men and women to wars which have not been clearly defined by civilians who have never been in war, including Clinton, including Bush Jr., in particular, who precipitated the wars into Iraq and Afghanistan, and now Obama.

02:15:41.000 And I had hoped by that time in the past that we would have stopped fooling the American public and stopped Creating an incursion into our own country, killing our own people, 9-11, has still not been fully explained. 0.71

02:15:58.000 And it is not a conspiracy theory.

02:16:00.000 It has nothing to do with all kinds of secrecy and cabal and any other issue.

02:16:05.000 It has to do with a famous technique in warfare.

02:16:09.000 That we call stand down, false flag, deception and denial.

02:16:13.000 It was done during Pearl Harbor.

02:16:16.000 Alex explained to you yesterday it was done by Hitler.

02:16:19.000 It was done by LBJ during the war in Vietnam where we had the Gulf of Tonkin and he claimed that we had A false flag operation and we had to shoot the Vietnamese because they shouted that was wrong.

02:16:33.000 Many men died for that.

02:16:35.000 Many men went to war.

02:16:37.000 And at the same time, we had a stand down and a false flag, which was told to me repeatedly by the people I work with, including a very famous general that I will not repeat his name to protect him until I go to a grand jury.

02:16:51.000 Now, what I'm saying today is very important.

02:16:54.000 I was a Deputy Assistant Secretary under Nixon, Ford, and came under Carter.

02:17:01.000 I resigned under Carter because I disagreed with the way he handled the hostage situation.

02:17:06.000 I came back under Reagan to take down the Soviet Union, and I came back under Bush Sr.

02:17:11.000 to work on Cambodia.

02:17:13.000 I'm not a career foreign service.

02:17:15.000 I'm not a career intelligence officer.

02:17:17.000 I am what every American is.

02:17:19.000 I'm a physician.

02:17:21.000 But I'm an entrepreneur.

02:17:22.000 I create businesses and I believe in the American way of life, which is very simple.

02:17:28.000 The hope, the faith, the dedication, and the lack of interference in my job, in my pocketbook, and in my speech, and in the ability to say what I want to say by the government.

02:17:39.000 That doesn't mean I'm a Tea Party member, I'm a liberal, I'm a conservative, or I belong to any party.

02:17:45.000 I am strictly an American, and I'm saying this to you, as Americans.

02:17:50.000 We have once again been deceived.

02:17:52.000 I thought this would cease and desist.

02:17:55.000 By the time Bush Jr.

02:17:56.000 was elected and thrown out, I had asked that Bush Jr.

02:18:00.000 be indicted for war criminals.

02:18:01.000 Cheney be indicted.

02:18:03.000 Ron Spelt.

02:18:04.000 Condoleezza Rice, Steve Hadley, it goes on and on and on.

02:18:09.000 The issue now is we have brought to the forefront, at a time when America is in deep peril economically, as Alex Jones has correctly explained to you, we are in deep peril because we are in two wars of which I have no idea why we're there.

02:18:25.000 And I had warned even on the Alex Jones Show nine years ago Not, we will go into Afghanistan and Iraq after the 9-11 and I predicted, and he was correct Alex Jones, and you see it on your website, that Osama bin Laden would be dead and had been dead for over seven months.

02:18:45.000 Not because special forces killed him.

02:18:47.000 But because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had Marfan syndrome.

02:18:57.000 Now many of you can look up on the internet, M-A-R-F-A-N syndrome.

02:19:02.000 It's a disease which is the genetic abnormality which Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln had.

02:19:08.000 And it was the disease of the cataract of the eye, of the coronary arteries, and what happens in that disease is that you have a very short lifespan.

02:19:17.000 The fact that he had renal dialysis was not an issue of renal stones, which can be cured, and is not that serious of life threatening.

02:19:30.000 But, he needed that dialysis machine so he had to take it with him.

02:19:34.000 It was not an accident that his number two man, El-Zawahiri, was a physician.

02:19:39.000 It is not an accident that most leaders of terrorist organizations around the world are physicians.

02:19:45.000 That's why I know them, because we understand our code of ethics and creed.

02:19:50.000 Osama bin Laden died when we went into Afghanistan.

02:19:54.000 General Tommy Franks had stated very clearly He had died and he made a slip.

02:20:00.000 Now, we knew he had already died by that time.

02:20:04.000 By the time we had already gone into Afghanistan, and in Pakistan, we knew he was dead.

02:20:10.000 So the notion, when I came on the radio show in 2002 with Alex Jones, I said, listen, Osama Bin Laden's dead.

02:20:17.000 There's no question about it.

02:20:17.000 He's dead.

02:20:19.000 He had Marfan Syndrome.

02:20:20.000 It had nothing to do with Special Forces.

02:20:22.000 He was used in the same way that 9-11 was used to mobilize the emotions and feelings of the American people in order to go to a war that had to be justified through a narrative that Bush Jr.

02:20:37.000 created and Cheney created about the world of terrorism.

02:20:41.000 Now, I have been in that world for 30 years.

02:20:44.000 During 30 years, we have never been attacked in America.

02:20:48.000 I repeat it again.

02:20:49.000 The question is not that we are safer now.

02:20:52.000 We are not safer.

02:20:54.000 The issue is we have never been attacked up until 9-11 because Bush Jr., Cheney, Rumsfeld, and a group of other generals who are involved, I know who they are and they know who I am.

02:21:08.000 We've decided that we had to mobilize the public in order to create a war on terrorism, which is an oxymoron.

02:21:15.000 That war on terrorism no longer exists.

02:21:17.000 We went into Iraq.

02:21:19.000 Our military forces, and I have to tell you, I have the greatest respect for our military men, and I'm saying this to you.

02:21:26.000 The generals, the colonels, the majors and the captains.

02:21:30.000 And I've been lecturing at the War College every year.

02:21:33.000 Be careful of the orders you receive from civilian president.

02:21:38.000 I say it again and listen to me.

02:21:40.000 Beware of the orders that you receive from civilian presidents like Bush, Clinton, and Obama.

02:21:47.000 Particularly presidents who have never served in a war and do not know what the consequences of the war are and the number of men and women who die.

02:21:57.000 Die bravely for our country and our cause because some civilian has to manipulate his political career at the expense of the American public and at the expense of the bodies and the blood and guts of our warriors who are so important to us.

02:22:15.000 Dr. Steve Pchenik is our guest.

02:22:15.000 Absolutely.

02:22:17.000 We'll even have him a little bit in the next hour.

02:22:19.000 He's very gracious.

02:22:21.000 And I want to get more into that entire area that you were just raising.

02:22:26.000 And I'm talking about my White House sources, so obviously they were probably given this info.

02:22:33.000 I know that you said he was

02:22:36.000 Dying of the disease I've seen the videos of him and even 98 99 he looked like somebody who was near death then obviously very ill The new photos they show us The CIA even had to admit last year and spy talk in the Washington Post that they were fake videos So it's on record they put fake videos out I think that's very bold of them to tell the Washington Post May 25th 2010 spy talk that they did fake them.

02:23:04.000 We already knew that we've seen the ads We've got Adam Gadahn videos uploaded in the same video layer as the Intel Center's logo.

02:23:13.000 We've got Amaral Alaki, admittedly.

02:23:17.000 Alex, the key, Mr. Jones, the key question America has to ask again, and why I went back on your show, is this has much greater implication just than the distortions and lies that are created by the intelligent community.

02:23:29.000 And believe me, I work with the intelligent community.

02:23:32.000 The question is why does that have to be done repeatedly in different administrations to the American public, particularly now with the President, as you said, who had the lowest ratings, whose historical background is in question.

02:23:46.000 I'm not only talking about his birth certificate, forget that, his education, how he came to power, whom he represents, and particularly in a time when Wall Street and the bankers have gotten away with the greatest crime in the history of America.

02:24:00.000 Nobody was indicted, and particularly at a time when I do not understand, I, who have been in war eight different times, why we are in Afghanistan and Iraq and why men and women are dying.

02:24:12.000 So the issue becomes a little bit greater than the question of, did the CIA or intelligence community doctor up this situation?

02:24:20.000 The answer is yes.

02:24:22.000 Categorically yes.

02:24:23.000 Anybody who tells you it's not is lying.

02:24:25.000 This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they're intent.

02:24:32.000 That's nonsense.

02:24:33.000 It's a total make-up, make-believe. 0.94

02:24:36.000 We're in an American theater of the absurd.

02:24:39.000 The real issue is why are we doing this again, Alex?

02:24:43.000 Why, nine years later, do I have to come on your show when I predicted, nine years ago, this man was already dead?

02:24:49.000 But it wasn't the issue of him.

02:24:51.000 It was the issue of why does a government, why does the government repeatedly have to lie to the American people, who have worked so hard, in order to justify their political existence, when you basically have civilian leaders who are politicians?

02:25:08.000 Now, I understand, Dr. Patzenik, Let me stop, because you're dropping bombshell after bombshell.

02:25:14.000 You know, you're the right-hand man of Henry Kissinger, George Shultz, James Baker, Cyrus Vance.

02:25:19.000 I wasn't anybody's right-hand man, let me tell you.

02:25:21.000 I got thrown out of more places than you can imagine, Mike.

02:25:24.000 That's right.

02:25:24.000 Well, my point is, you've been right up there.

02:25:27.000 You've been right up there, right underneath these guys, and it's on record that Tom Clancy's character, Jack Ryan, Patriot Games, is you, so you are... Based on me, that's correct.

02:25:27.000 I've been there.

02:25:38.000 Yes, I mean, you're the...

02:25:41.000 Absolutely.

02:25:42.000 So, and we'll put an image of Jack Ryan up there.

02:25:46.000 So that's the guy that we're talking to right now.

02:25:50.000 And so, Doctor, you just, you know, brought out that incredible information and we're trying to scramble to find the photo.

02:25:56.000 It was up on Drudge for two days.

02:25:57.000 It's gone now.

02:25:58.000 But the photo, you can go to whitehouse.gov and find it, is of the president, you know, watches with Well, the breakdown is very simple.

02:26:09.000 This is a man who decided he's going to have a photo opportunity.

02:26:11.000 The men are all acting tough.

02:26:14.000 You can see that that's a posing photo and you've been at those levels.

02:26:19.000 So break that down for us, doctor.

02:26:21.000 Well, the breakdown is very simple.

02:26:24.000 This is a man who decided he's going to have a photo opportunity.

02:26:27.000 This is a man from the day he came in, it began with a lie.

02:26:33.000 It began with a lie.

02:26:35.000 I didn't know the man.

02:26:36.000 I have nothing personally against him.

02:26:38.000 I couldn't care one way or the other, but I did care what is this man going to be as a president.

02:26:44.000 If he's going to say one thing and do another in my world, in the world where I can say he's a political operative, that's called a sociopath.

02:26:52.000 That means that you say one thing, but you do everything differently.

02:26:56.000 So when you look at a photograph of people looking intently as if they were amazed and bemused by an attack that may or may not have existed, if this was an attack and they attacked a mortuary, God bless them, because Osama bin Laden is totally dead, so there's no way they could have attacked or killed or confronted Osama bin Laden unless you believe in the resurrection of Osama bin Laden, and I don't.

02:27:21.000 And if I could tell you nine years ago, so let me break it through.

02:27:25.000 You have a president, you have a chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mullen, whose father was a publicist at the William Morris Agency, who is very much concerned about how he's going to lead the military as an admiral, alright?

02:27:41.000 You have a president who is in deep, deep trouble, who has no idea of how to get us out of unemployment, and has a disparity between the very rich and the very poor, where no banker in the history of this country, after stealing billions of dollars and coming back to the American public and asking us for bonuses,

02:28:03.000 I've never been arrested for this, yet some people who have cheated on their taxes or poor people who have not been able to get jobs are put in prison or are waiting on welfare.

02:28:14.000 So we have a president who, the day he came in, picked up the Nobel Prize for Peace where he had done nothing, next day turns around and declares war on Afghanistan.

02:28:25.000 Even Bush Jr.

02:28:25.000 didn't declare war on Afghanistan.

02:28:27.000 And who's in Afghanistan right now?

02:28:29.000 We're talking about a man, Karzai, whom I knew, and I was there at the house 20 years ago in Maryland, when this delicate Tassin owner from Silver Spring was ordered to come back. 0.99

02:28:43.000 He was a CIA operative, as I said, as I remembered him, and was put into a position where we have nothing but corruption, Destruction and basically the killing of our own people.

02:28:55.000 Then we have the Pakistani allies who they have now irritated this Obama. 0.84

02:29:00.000 And then we have Panetta, who's not in that picture.

02:29:03.000 The most important of those men who was ordered.

02:29:06.000 This is the great key order.

02:29:08.000 Obama wants to tell you how resolute he was because everybody said he was indecisive.

02:29:13.000 So in order to make sure he looks resolute, he orders Panetta.

02:29:18.000 A nice liberal who has been a Republican... Stay there, Dr. Pachinik, stay there. 0.62

02:29:22.000 Back in three minutes.

02:29:23.000 This is key info.

02:29:24.000 We'll go back to Bin Laden's death and give us any more evidence of that.

02:29:30.000 We're on the march.

02:29:32.000 The empire's on the run.

02:29:34.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:29:40.000 You may be arrested and or subject to Tyranny is here.

02:29:46.000 The grim future foretold in 1984 has become reality.

02:29:50.000 It really says that the state is God.

02:29:52.000 The United States is now recognized globally as one of the most oppressive police states on Earth.

02:29:58.000 This film conclusively proves the existence of a secret network of FEMA camps, now being expanded nationwide.

02:30:04.000 This documentary exposes how the continuity of government program has established an all-powerful shadow state.

02:30:10.000 Police State 4 chronicles the sickening depth to which our republic has fallen.

02:30:14.000 Prepare to enter the secretive world of emergency dictatorship.

02:30:19.000 Body scanners, sound cannons, citizen spies, stage terror, and cameras on every street corner.

02:30:25.000 It's only the beginning of the New World Order's hellish plan. 0.92

02:30:28.000 The police state isn't coming.

02:30:30.000 It's here.

02:30:31.000 Secure your copy today at InfoWars.com or see it online in the highest quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:30:41.000 Hi folks, this is Alex Jones.

02:30:43.000 I'm looking for people that have the wisdom to spot savings, opportunity, and recognize risk.

02:30:48.000 Saving means to make money.

02:30:50.000 The Calbin Pure Soap Company can save you thousands of dollars and give you good old-fashioned real soaps that are triple concentrated and twice as good as what you're using now.

02:30:59.000 Soaps made from vegetable and coconut oils that contain no useless dyes, perfumes, deodorants, or antibacterials.

02:31:07.000 Your risk is the hundreds of hazardous toxic detergents that give you rashes, itching sores, and deteriorating clothing called lint.

02:31:15.000 If you want something better, if you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before.

02:31:20.000 Getting a free catalog is easy by calling 800-340-7091.

02:31:25.000 Or see Calvin on the web at 5starsoap.com.

02:31:28.000 Take charge of your health now by calling 800-340-7091.

02:31:30.000 800-340-7091.

02:31:33.000 Or see Calvin on the web at 5starsoap.com.

02:31:36.000 This is Alex Jones with five good reasons you should consider buying a solar power generator.

02:31:44.000 Number 1.

02:31:45.000 New climate legislation could easily double or triple your electric bill.

02:31:48.000 Number 2.

02:31:49.000 Our new energy czar wants to control how much power your electric company allows you to have.

02:31:54.000 It's true.

02:31:55.000 Total government control of electricity in the name of smart grid technology is coming.

02:32:00.000 Number 3.

02:32:01.000 In some areas of the country, the power grid is dangerously overloaded.

02:32:04.000 And now, new socialist legislation is only compounding the problem.

02:32:08.000 Number 4.

02:32:09.000 Dangerous weather is always a threat to local grids.

02:32:12.000 Every year, thousands of families lose their power from weather-related outages.

02:32:15.000 Number 5.

02:32:16.000 A solar power generator provides powerful backup, insurance, and peace of mind.

02:32:20.000 Folks, I really believe in the solar power generators offered by Solutions from Science, one of my oldest sponsors.

02:32:25.000 You can get more information at www.mysolarbackup.com.

02:32:30.000 That's mysolarbackup.com.

02:32:31.000 Remember, the government doesn't own the sun.

02:32:33.000 So go to mysolarbackup.com or call 1-877-327-0365.

02:32:39.000 I would stand in line for this.

02:32:43.000 There's always room in life for this.

02:32:48.000 Oh, baby.

02:32:51.000 Oh, baby.

02:32:53.000 Then it fell apart.

02:32:56.000 It fell apart.

02:32:58.000 Oh, baby.

02:33:00.000 Oh, baby.

02:33:03.000 Then it fell apart.

02:33:05.000 Guys, uh...

02:33:06.000 It fell apart.

02:33:07.000 He has written 26-plus New York Times bestsellers, stevepachenik.com.

02:33:15.000 It's on record, a high-level, uh...

02:33:18.000 Government position under multiple presidents under Secretary of State's involved in black ops all over the world with the Mujahideen.

02:33:28.000 I wanted to talk about some of that history briefly before we look at currently what's happening because obviously to know what's coming in the future and what's happening in the present we need to know the past.

02:33:37.000 Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it because the cliche rings true.

02:33:42.000 But remember, this is the character that they created Jack Ryan out of in Tom Clancy's books, and that's on record.

02:33:51.000 That's how respected he is, and he has a lot of courage.

02:33:54.000 And I know you probably don't want to get into this now, but you did get a lot of heat When you came on my show, and I know you'll probably get heat again right now, but you're not some small fry out there saying that bin Laden was dead.

02:34:08.000 And what you talked about on my show was confirmed by people in the White House, high level.

02:34:13.000 And then separately, years after that, Madeleine Albright, former Secretary of State, came out and said it.

02:34:20.000 Benazir Bhutto, the President of Pakistan, said it.

02:34:23.000 So when the Washington Post, and everybody makes fun of us right now, and has these articles out, some of them wouldn't even quote you.

02:34:30.000 They just said that Jones claimed he had a source from the State Department when it was on record.

02:34:38.000 Uh, Atlantic Monthly dare not mention it.

02:34:41.000 They linked to some Cheech and Chong blog that I have nothing to do with in some attempt to just mislead their readers.

02:34:48.000 Jeff Goldberg, who when he wasn't an Israeli prison guard, he was...

02:34:54.000 You know, running around engaged in his regular activities.

02:34:57.000 So I guess Israel doesn't like what I'm doing.

02:34:59.000 I don't know why.

02:34:59.000 I mean, I'm not in their business.

02:35:00.000 But let's go back because this is what the media is going to be calling you about and myself about.

02:35:06.000 Let's go back specifically.

02:35:08.000 You've got all these intel connections.

02:35:10.000 You've worked with, you know, the biggest heavy hitters there are.

02:35:15.000 You're famous in intelligence and analysis.

02:35:19.000 Jack Ryan's your character, the guy that doesn't play games.

02:35:23.000 In the real world, you're actually telling it like it is.

02:35:29.000 April 22nd on this show and then everything you've talked about has now been backed up in triplicate and now we have this latest PR stunt with them with the photo op with Hillary covering her mouth.

02:35:40.000 I mean, this looks like a photo where you tell your kids, you know, smile, say cheese.

02:35:45.000 Breakdown, sir.

02:35:46.000 Take your time.

02:35:47.000 With the intel, with the CIA reports you were reading, with as much proof as you can give us without giving up your sources, of knowing that bin Laden was dead, and when he reportedly died, so that we can look at the big news story now in context of why they've launched this hoax today.

02:36:06.000 Well, let me just say, the issue of why he was dead was exactly what I said before.

02:36:13.000 He died of Marfan syndrome.

02:36:15.000 Bush Jr.

02:36:16.000 knew about it.

02:36:17.000 The intelligence community knew about it.

02:36:19.000 CIA had already sent a physician way before under the Clinton administration to see him at the American Hospital in Dubai.

02:36:25.000 He was already very sick from Marfan syndrome, and he was already dying.

02:36:30.000 So nobody had to kill him.

02:36:31.000 He had El Zawahiri, who was the physician with him, who is still a physician.

02:36:35.000 I don't know where he is.

02:36:37.000 But we knew he was already dead by 9-11.

02:36:40.000 It was very clear that he was dying.

02:36:42.000 At Tora Bora, he probably died.

02:36:45.000 Tommy Frank's general said accidentally that he died.

02:36:48.000 But the point was he was already dead by the time I talked to you.

02:36:51.000 Why is it relevant?

02:36:53.000 Now again as I said, why is the fiction and the narrative of the psyops of America against the American people so important?

02:37:00.000 It's number one, as you said so clearly to your public and they understand it. 1.00

02:37:04.000 Number one, we're viewed as idiots and stupid and Americans are not seen as very bright by our politicians. 1.00

02:37:11.000 Secondly, basically the president was in very deep trouble, as you said. 1.00

02:37:16.000 Economically, politically, he was on the bottom.

02:37:19.000 He had the birther issue come out.

02:37:21.000 He proved he said he was American, but now he had to prove that he was more than American.

02:37:26.000 He was more American than American. 0.64

02:37:28.000 He had to be aggressive.

02:37:29.000 At the same time, you had an admiral who had really not done very well as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who had made some serious gaps.

02:37:38.000 By giving a Medal of Honor to Greg Mortensen, who lied, going into Pakistan saying he had built schools for women and looked like a fool, you have Panetta, who really caused a lot of civilian damage in the Pakistan area, and the Pakistanis were furious with him because what he called him was a CIA, quite frankly, without telling you a great secret, it's already an open source intelligence.

02:38:02.000 About 80% of the CIA presently is not involved in intelligence.

02:38:06.000 It is involved in what's called Operation Killing Special Ops.

02:38:10.000 And that means that many of the special forces soldiers have been shifted over to the CIA.

02:38:15.000 What used to be in the old office, Solix Special Operations Low Intensity Conflict, but they have a new office.

02:38:22.000 And Panetta was really just killing people right and left with the drones and creating a lot of, lot of friction and a major alienation between the American generals and the Pakistani generals, the ISI.

02:38:38.000 Third, lastly, we have a foreign policy that didn't work under Hillary Clinton, as you know, Like Condoleezza Rice, she probably booked in more miles than any other Secretary of State and was totally incompetent. 1.00

02:38:50.000 She was not able to preempt to really be able to figure out any strategic assessments or analysis of what happened in the Middle East or predict the uprising in Syria, in Libya, Tunisia, and was really not able to hold out and Tunisia, and was really not able to hold out and was not confident.

02:39:10.000 So you have a whole series of administrative people, both civilians and military, who are not confident, and they had to show that they could really prove some sense of competency at a time when they was in a reelection area.

02:39:23.000 It's a really, as nature, it's a very sense of political expediency.

02:39:28.000 As to what the Washington Post says and the New York Times, I don't particularly care.

02:39:31.000 I never have.

02:39:32.000 I never will.

02:39:33.000 It's not relevant to me.

02:39:35.000 It may be relevant to you, but I don't think it's relevant to the American public.

02:39:38.000 They don't read it.

02:39:39.000 They don't care about it.

02:39:41.000 Quite frankly, more people listen to Alex Jones than they read the New York Times.

02:39:45.000 No question in my mind.

02:39:46.000 Having said that, it was a very politically expedient factor for the President to say, I'm going to get re-elected, I've shown my firmness, I've shown I'm an American, I've shown that I can turn around the economy, which he hasn't.

02:40:00.000 Secretary of State Hillary can say, look, we accomplished the end of a major significant movement in the war on terrorism, which they haven't, because from a tactical and an intelligence assessment point of view, this has not changed the game whatsoever.

02:40:15.000 There are no terrorists really right now in Afghanistan.

02:40:19.000 The only terrorists right now are being supported by Al-Haqqa, which is supported by the Pakistani Inter-Service Intelligence, which Gore said to you last night, which ironically is being supported by the CIA.

02:40:31.000 And even Al-Haqqa has been reporting back to our intelligence operatives saying, what in God's name is going on?

02:40:37.000 We're being paid by our own CIA, your CIA, through the ISI, to kill your soldiers. 0.78

02:40:43.000 Now, if you can explain that to me, you're going to have to explain that to the American public.

02:40:48.000 And that's what I meant by deception and denial that's been going on for three administrations.

02:40:52.000 Clinton, Bush, and this administration.

02:40:55.000 It has to stop.

02:40:57.000 What else has been happening?

02:40:58.000 The Pakistanis are so furious, what you heard last night, that Panetta had created all these problems and they don't like General Petraeus.

02:41:07.000 By the way, I happen to like General Petraeus.

02:41:09.000 I think he's been a good general.

02:41:11.000 He's been quiet.

02:41:12.000 He's been doing what he was ordered to do, not what he initiated to do.

02:41:16.000 And we have to differentiate our military From civilian control and that's one of the reasons why I work with our military and not the civilian government.

02:41:25.000 I offer and donate my time to our military because they're the most serious institution that we have left in the United States and they're being traded very poorly.

02:41:35.000 Both on the battlefield without the necessary resources, and when they come back as veterans without any benefits, and now they have no mental health benefits, they have no physical benefits, and we're having the cheapest amount of labor given to these veterans who have served our country honorably.

02:41:52.000 So what I'm saying to you very clearly is, this is a civilian psyops game that continues from presidency to presidency.

02:42:00.000 We in the United States can no longer have two-party systems where we have a Republican and Democrat, where it really is not functioning very well and it's costing the American public a fortune in both blood and guts and money.

02:42:14.000 We've spent over $333 billion.

02:42:18.000 Approximately $50 million for every so-called terrorist that was taken out of Afghanistan, which were about 2,000 terrorists.

02:42:25.000 Now if you can find me 2,000 more terrorists in Pakistan, I will give you a couple of more million, because they don't exist.

02:42:32.000 Karzai, the Pakistanis have worked together to make sure that we're not able to acquire any assets there. 0.84

02:42:39.000 Now, what is this result?

02:42:41.000 We're not going to go to World War III.

02:42:43.000 What's happening is another form of economic warfare has entered, and that is China, who has benefited from all of what we have done, the dysfunctional behavior and the misassessment and the lack of strategy and the lack of leadership. 0.88

02:42:58.000 And the disasters that we have created with the drones and our CIA so-called operations where we kill civilians.

02:43:05.000 We've alienated the Pakistanis who in turn have invited the Chinese to come down and work with them both militarily and economically. 1.00

02:43:15.000 And what has Karzai said publicly?

02:43:17.000 I don't want the Americans here because he already has raped and ripped us of about three billion dollars a day a week. 1.00

02:43:24.000 And at the same time, he has asked the Chinese to come in and invest in Afghanistan. 0.52

02:43:29.000 Now, that's the reality.

02:43:31.000 And by the way, Karzai's brother on record is the biggest opium dealer in Afghanistan now.

02:43:37.000 Now, looking at this...

02:43:39.000 Looking at this, I talked to you earlier during the break and you said you heard General Hamid Gul, former head of Pakistani intelligence, on and that you had to agree with what he said.

02:43:47.000 Right.

02:43:47.000 You just alluded to that.

02:43:49.000 But specifically, let's go into your history because you know the entire, much of the entire leadership of Pakistan and Afghanistan from the Afghan war with the Russians.

02:44:02.000 Yes.

02:44:03.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:44:04.000 That's very kind of you.

02:44:05.000 I really know them way before the Afghan war.

02:44:07.000 I was involved in the major hostage situation in Washington called the Hanafi Muslim March brought in by Earl Silbert when 350 hostages were taken in Washington.

02:44:20.000 And I was able for 36 hours of negotiating against the orders of Carter.

02:44:25.000 I actually threw out Jimmy Carter outside.

02:44:27.000 So you can see I don't always acquiesce to a civilian controller or president.

02:44:31.000 And basically there was a very important gentleman who worked with me named Yaqub Khan.

02:44:36.000 Yaqub Khan was the foreign minister of Pakistan, was our ambassador to the United States, but was the father of the Pakistani army.

02:44:45.000 As a result of that, I got to know the various generals throughout his ranks, who they were, and he talked to me about Al Zia, Musharraf, Benazir Bhutto, her father, what would happen.

02:44:56.000 So I intimately got to know Both the military elements of this incredible army that was trained under General Yacoub Khan, and a friend of mine was also the head of the Islamic Brotherhood, believe it or not, we went to MIT together.

02:45:10.000 So I knew all of these elements, and I knew they were extremely sensitive.

02:45:15.000 To our relationship with America, and at the time, they were useful in the fight against the Soviet Union.

02:45:22.000 But at the same time, I was clearly warned very early on that they would turn against us and basically have a blowback, which you've talked about in the past.

02:45:31.000 So, using Yahoo Con, I knew exactly where the elements were, the concerns they had about the CIA continuously supporting the Inter-Service Intelligence Agency, the fact that the ISI was getting out of control, was no longer under military or civilian control in Pakistan and was beginning to form their own so-called groups, or we call terrorist groups,

02:45:55.000 as a forefront to making sure that Pakistan had an ancillary army or basically an auxiliary army or paramilitary unit that could fight against India.

02:46:08.000 And one of the things your audience has to understand, Pakistan's greatest obsession right now is not with the Taliban or Haqqa, Those are the groups that they support even till today. 0.61

02:46:17.000 It's with India? 1.00

02:46:18.000 I'm sorry, with India. 1.00

02:46:21.000 That is correct, Alex.

02:46:22.000 India is the greatest obsession. 0.91

02:46:24.000 And I would speak to the general and other Pakistani officials and explain to them, look, India is not an issue for you.

02:46:31.000 India is twice the size you are. 1.00

02:46:33.000 They have twice the number of nuclear warheads.

02:46:35.000 You have 600,000 soldiers at that time.

02:46:38.000 They had 2.2 million.

02:46:39.000 Kashmir is not an issue.

02:46:41.000 Nevertheless, India, Pakistan to this day has felt very strongly that India is sending down operatives through the Chinese and other Soviets into Afghanistan and are using those operatives in order to get a possession into Afghanistan.

02:46:57.000 And at the same time, Pakistan feels that India is infiltrating into Kashmir.

02:47:01.000 So there's a whole other scenario which we have not been able to handle.

02:47:05.000 When Richard Holbrooke was brought in as the envoy to South Asia, he was told you can handle anything you want, but you will not touch Pakistan and India or Kashmir.

02:47:17.000 That was cut out.

02:47:18.000 So, from a foreign policy point of view, we have never had the strong hand or the foresight of, let's say, whatever you think of Kissinger or Baker.

02:47:28.000 Very forcefully say, no, that's not going to happen, or we have the strategic sense under various other presidents where we knew exactly where we wanted to go, like Bush Sr.

02:47:37.000 said, we're not going into Iraq.

02:47:39.000 It wasn't a question.

02:47:40.000 He was afraid of Saddam Hussein, or he wasn't, or it was unfinished work.

02:47:44.000 Bush Senior was brilliant in foreign policy.

02:47:47.000 We had taken down the Soviet Union quietly, we had taken down East Germany quietly, we had taken down Apartheid quietly, and we had taken down Debussens, a whole bunch of other countries. 0.90

02:47:57.000 Not one word was said.

02:47:59.000 When his son came in, he said, I don't listen to my father. 0.95

02:48:02.000 We said, good God, what an incredibly incompetent Arrogant individual, yet his father never said a word. 0.96

02:48:09.000 So when you have a man like Bush Sr.

02:48:11.000 who's able to control and direct both the intelligent community of the CIA, under whom Gates, Bob Gates, who is an excellent Secretary of Defense, and I'm sorry to see him go, because I think that's a great loss to our country.

02:48:25.000 He has really tried to control and direct our defense department in the right way and cut back programs that were not necessary.

02:48:33.000 The F-22, the stealth, and really provide our special forces with the necessary equipment they needed.

02:48:40.000 We're going to lose a very valuable man.

02:48:42.000 In turn, I have very big questions about Panetta and his capabilities.

02:48:46.000 I do not think he performed well at the CIA.

02:48:49.000 I think he exacerbated a very serious situation with the Pakistani's.

02:48:54.000 And I think General Petraeus will have a hard time because it's a military man coming into a civilian organization, which General Eisenhower once said about the CIA, you need a certain kind of genius to run that organization.

02:49:08.000 So right now, what's happening is civilian control, which is both untutored, undisciplined, and without a history of any military intelligence expertise, is now going forward.

02:49:19.000 There's one more reason why Osama bin Laden came out out of the dead, so to speak, the resurrection, or the psyops resurrection of Osama bin Laden, and that is for the first time you've heard people like Clapper and the director of the National Intelligence Organizations and the, I say that the Center for Counterterrorism and all the intelligence organizations, which amount to God knows how many now, Have really worked together and effectively.

02:49:46.000 So it's a justification to say that under Obama, we have really integrated our intelligence community so that we effectively can kill and that we're able to kill a dead man, in my opinion, that Osama Bin Laden was dead.

02:50:01.000 All right, let me ask you this question, sir.

02:50:03.000 And again, if you've just joined us, Dr. Steve Pachinick, stevepachinick.com, the man that Tom Clancy's novels are based on, author and creator of 26 New York Times bestsellers.

02:50:14.000 He was the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and or Senior Policy Planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Shultz, and James Baker.

02:50:22.000 Dr. Pachinick is also, as you heard, a medical doctor, continues to consult to the Department of Defense, is also a Council on Foreign Relations Fellow.

02:50:30.000 You heard him, and he said it nine years ago, that they would do this.

02:50:34.000 This is the PSYOP resurrection of Osama Bin Laden. 0.95

02:50:37.000 We'll find out exactly why.

02:50:39.000 It isn't just about the reelection of... Hello friends, this is Alex Jones.

02:50:42.000 The earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear disaster that killed thousands of Japanese citizens is nothing compared to the devastation that could be caused by hyperinflation that will soon hit the United States and could lead to millions of Americans becoming homeless, all caused by the devalued U.S. dollar.

02:50:58.000 While the mainstream media continues to ignore inflation, our friends at the National Inflation Association provide a free weekly newsletter that educates Americans to the facts and truth about the U.S. economy and inflation.

02:51:09.000 I urge you to sign up at the NIA's free newsletter at www.inflation.us to learn how you can not only survive but prosper during the upcoming hyperinflation crisis.

02:51:19.000 Silver has more than doubled since the NIA declared silver the best investment for the next decade on inflation.us.

02:51:25.000 The NIA's team of expert economists are happy to answer any economic questions you have about inflation, debt, currencies, real estate, precious metals, and commodities.

02:51:35.000 Visit inflation.us to learn the economic truth that the mainstream media ignores.

02:51:40.000 Big Berkey water filters are in high demand.

02:51:43.000 Storable foods are also in high demand.

02:51:45.000 BigBerkeyWaterFilters.com has always kept our focus on the Berkey water filter products.

02:51:50.000 But increasingly, our customers have been asking for storable foods.

02:51:53.000 After months of research, BigBerkeyWaterFilters.com now offers great-tasting, long-lasting, storable foods.

02:52:01.000 These ready-to-eat meals are packed in airtight nitrogen pouches.

02:52:04.000 All you do is just add water.

02:52:06.000 And because they're sealed so well, they come with a 25-year shelf life.

02:52:10.000 Combine our Berkey water filters, which are powerful enough to purify treated, untreated, or even stagnant pond water with our storable foods, and you have a winning combination.

02:52:19.000 Remember, we offer free shipping on every order over $50.

02:52:22.000 And GCN listeners receive 5% off all ceramic filter systems.

02:52:26.000 Visit BigBerkeyWaterFilters.com or call 877-99-BERKEY.

02:52:33.000 That's BigBerkeyWaterFilters.com or call 877-99-BERKEY today!

02:52:40.000 The U.S.

02:52:41.000 economy is at a tipping point.

02:52:43.000 Forty cents of every dollar the government spends is borrowed.

02:52:46.000 The president of the Federal Reserve in Dallas was recently quoted saying, this path will lead to insolvency, resulting in the collapse of our government and our economy.

02:52:55.000 Our country can't function like this, and neither can your household.

02:52:58.000 That's why you need to prepare, and priority one is your food supply.

02:53:04.000 With the help of Ready Reserve Foods.

02:53:06.000 Ready Reserve Foods has been a premier supplier of long-term storable foods for 37 years.

02:53:10.000 Their unique process assures the highest quality long-term food storage available with a 25-year shelf life.

02:53:17.000 A full year supply of quality food for two people costs a fraction of what you pay at the grocery store.

02:53:22.000 For a free, full-color catalog, call 800-453-2202.

02:53:24.000 That's 800-453-2202.

02:53:24.000 Or visit ReadyReserveFoods.com.

02:53:25.000 453-2202.

02:53:27.000 That's 800-453-2202.

02:53:31.000 Or visit readyreservefoods.com.

02:53:34.000 Ready Reserve Foods, making preparedness simple since 1972.

02:53:38.000 Look in my eyes, what do you what do you see?

02:54:01.000 The comfort personality.

02:54:07.000 And that's what Bin Laden is. 0.97

02:54:09.000 I love you.

02:54:11.000 He knows your pain.

02:54:11.000 He knows your anger.

02:54:12.000 He's that six foot four boogeyman with a scary turban and a beard and an evil eye. 1.00

02:54:19.000 And now we've had a victory.

02:54:21.000 Man, America's coming together.

02:54:23.000 Yeah, as the gas prices explode, as all of this tyranny unfolds, as, I mean, the Chinese are dumping more treasuries. 1.00

02:54:32.000 They're talking about the U.S.

02:54:34.000 losing a AAA rating.

02:54:35.000 That's back in the news today.

02:54:36.000 They say when they switch it, it may go to a C-grade, that's CNBC.

02:54:43.000 I mean, this is the country going into cardiac arrest, but we've got the Royal Wedding, we've got the Bin Laden situation, and here is a very high-powered author, researcher, State Department, a former official, CFR fellow, breaking everything down, breaking ranks with the establishment to warn you.

02:55:02.000 Now, larger than just Obama, sir.

02:55:05.000 Uh, and the re-election.

02:55:06.000 I mean, that's all scripted, that's clear.

02:55:09.000 Why else are they doing this?

02:55:10.000 Because, I mean, we see the frame-up now of Pakistan going into high gear saying Bin Laden was at this house.

02:55:18.000 Well, one of the reasons they're doing it is so that they basically can pull out of Pakistan and they can leave, try to leave Afghanistan and Iraq with the sense that there was a victory. 0.96

02:55:28.000 There is no victory because there was no clear designation as to what the war would accomplish.

02:55:33.000 We have no idea what the war accomplished other than 10 years of wasted bodies and brave men and women and $333 billion a year.

02:55:42.000 Secondly, we now have a very serious economic issue with unemployment still exceedingly high, much higher than the designations.

02:55:52.000 We have a banking crisis that hasn't been resolved.

02:55:55.000 In three years we've had banks after banks, Chase, Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan and Chase, Bank of America, all of them have committed crimes beyond the reason of the doubt.

02:56:07.000 If you look at the Banking Commission report that's done by our own federal government, they indict them.

02:56:12.000 And there's basically no attention to them and nobody has even been prosecuted.

02:56:17.000 And Obama went back to them yesterday and asked them for more money.

02:56:20.000 They're going to raise a billion.

02:56:22.000 We're also in a position where we are not doing very well in the international arena.

02:56:27.000 We have literally lost our basic strategic superpower position.

02:56:31.000 Although we have a large army, we're basically in the same position that the British military was in the 1900s.

02:56:37.000 a very large army, without a strategy, without a cause, and without a country.

02:56:42.000 I often said to our military, we have an army without a country, and I say to our country that we have a country without a military, because right now it's costing us a fortune.

02:56:51.000 We have no benefits derived from it.

02:56:54.000 There are no enemies that we have other than the internal security of our country, which depends really on the debt, as you clearly said, and our financial growth, which is very low, 2% to 3%, and the fact that our bond ratings will be downgraded, perhaps to a C, or whatever the levels are.

02:57:10.000 We have further problems.

02:57:12.000 We have the notion that a system is not working, and that's what I keep coming back to since I said ten years ago when we had Bush Jr., now we have Obama.

02:57:21.000 We elect people who are basically panderers without any history of accomplishment, without any history of success, other than the fact that they pandered their way and agreed to acquiesce to anybody who's giving them money or power and represent other interests.

02:57:39.000 Now, I'm not I'm not degrading anybody.

02:57:41.000 I've treated politicians and I've worked with them.

02:57:43.000 But basically the notion of a politician servicing the United States of American needs is absurd.

02:57:50.000 We don't need these people anymore and if we don't, if we think we do, then we're mistaken because we're going to keep going on from administration to administration, from lie to lie, and from incompetence to incompetence.

02:58:03.000 All of these people are reshuffled again.

02:58:05.000 You have Panetta who was in the Clinton administration, was not a great Thank you for listening to GCN.

02:58:10.000 the CIA where he was disponsor to now heading up the secretary.

02:58:13.000 Stay there.

02:58:14.000 We've got the real live Patriot Games.

02:58:16.000 Jack Ryan, Dr. Steve Pachanek going into overdrive.

02:58:19.000 Stand by InfoWars.com.

02:58:21.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

02:58:25.000 Visit GCNlive.com today.

02:58:28.000 Over the last year, Alex has told you about and many of you have experienced emergencies and disasters in unprecedented numbers.

02:58:38.000 People have had to literally run for their lives.

02:58:40.000 Folks, this is Steve Schenck with eFoods Direct.

02:58:43.000 I'm not here to scare you, but when disaster strikes, you won't have time to think.

02:58:47.000 You must act automatically.

02:58:49.000 What does a pilot do when the helicopter engine fails in flight?

02:58:52.000 No time to think, just act automatically.

02:58:55.000 When the alert is broadcast, the alarm sounds, or the knock comes on your door, you'll need to be ready to act without thinking of what to do or what you need.

02:59:03.000 You need a 5-Day Extreme Emergency Kit.

02:59:06.000 With serious supplies and real food to secure two adults for five days, this powerful $300 Extreme Emergency Kit is free with an order of at least $995 from eFoodsDirect.

02:59:16.000 Go to eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex or call 800-409-5633.

02:59:18.000 That's eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex.

02:59:21.000 or call 800-409-5633.

02:59:24.000 That's eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex. 800-409-5633.

02:59:30.000 Coast to coast, direct from Austin.

02:59:35.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.

02:59:38.000 Now into the fourth hour.

02:59:51.000 We're going to take your phone calls later in the hour.

02:59:54.000 If you have any questions or comments for Dr. Steve Pachinik, the toll-free number to join us is 800-259-9231.

03:00:01.000 But please, focus, serious questions about the whole Osama bin Laden garbage. 0.82

03:00:09.000 800-259-9231 is the toll-free number to join us.

03:00:12.000 Doctor, talking, you know, at the end of the break I was asking their What is the goal?

03:00:18.000 We know it's a re-election kickoff. 0.53

03:00:19.000 We can see the scripting, the choreographing, the ridiculous we threw bin Laden in the ocean. 0.99

03:00:25.000 The six years he's in Pakistan, obviously they want to start framing Pakistan, putting pressure on them. 0.81

03:00:30.000 They caught the CIA guy reportedly with the uranium, trying to get it to militants and some type of way to put pressure on Pakistan's nuclear program.

03:00:38.000 But what are the other reasons for them doing this?

03:00:41.000 Because I'm scanning the news here while we're live.

03:00:46.000 48 hours into this, it's completely turning around against them.

03:00:49.000 And hoax, hoax, hoax, hoax, hoax is the byword.

03:00:54.000 They're on Facebook everywhere trying to block and ban people like I've never seen on their own Facebook saying it's a hoax.

03:01:00.000 It looks like a route is beginning.

03:01:02.000 And folks, I don't just say things like a cheerleader.

03:01:04.000 I'm telling you now, this looks like a route of this hoax.

03:01:07.000 That's why they're now saying they're going to try to release a real photo.

03:01:11.000 Dr. Pichinni.

03:01:13.000 Well, I think you're absolutely right, Alex.

03:01:15.000 One of the things that we, I think the politicians, never calculated on is that the American public is a lot smarter than the politicians.

03:01:22.000 Let me repeat that again.

03:01:23.000 I think we, the American people, are a lot smarter.

03:01:27.000 We can smell a PSYOPS operation.

03:01:29.000 We can smell the fake.

03:01:30.000 We can smell when it's orchestrated.

03:01:32.000 And this was orchestrated.

03:01:34.000 I mean, when you have people sitting around and watching a sitcom, basically the operation center of the White House, and you have a president coming out almost zombie-like, telling you that they just killed Osama Bin Laden, who was already dead nine years ago, and people are aware of shows like yours, quite frankly, Alex, you've been a very important part of inserting the truth in a time when most media was really going to the common denominator, in the lowest.

03:02:00.000 The fortunate part is that, thank God for the alternative media, and thank God for the American public.

03:02:05.000 They're a lot smarter.

03:02:07.000 And the world public's a lot smarter.

03:02:08.000 I understand that you're listened to in the Middle East by millions of people.

03:02:12.000 You've offered them a lot of facts.

03:02:14.000 There's nothing that you've really said that I didn't agree with nine years ago.

03:02:18.000 And when I said to you Osama bin Laden's dead because they need to get out of there, they need to have a conclusion where the President's getting rid of all the issues we talked about. 0.58

03:02:27.000 Now the American public is saying, you know, we're tired.

03:02:30.000 We're sick and tired of the nonsense that was given to us by Clinton, by Bush, and certainly now by Obama.

03:02:37.000 We want jobs.

03:02:38.000 We want to manufacture.

03:02:39.000 We don't want to be overseas.

03:02:41.000 We want to develop our own country.

03:02:43.000 We want to know that we can be proud of what we've done and forget the rest of the world where we're making up wars that don't exist and terrorists who never were.

03:02:51.000 And the PSA, as you said, is reaching down to your pants and are not really required.

03:02:56.000 I've never seen anything like this in my whole life.

03:02:59.000 So the answer is, one issue that's very important is that the American public has to understand these people are not smarter than the American public.

03:03:06.000 They're just not.

03:03:07.000 They may believe they're smart.

03:03:09.000 If you look at the background of Osama Bin Laden, he did not do very well in school.

03:03:13.000 He was at two-year college, which was not very good.

03:03:15.000 He didn't do that well in Columbia, and I think he got into Harvard on affirmative action.

03:03:21.000 But the real issue is, and his own wife was in on affirmative action, I think the real issue is that we have the same benefits that he had.

03:03:29.000 I think we would have achieved so-called elite status.

03:03:31.000 But the bottom line is very simple.

03:03:34.000 The American public is a lot smarter.

03:03:36.000 Anybody who has to work on a day-to-day basis, whether I'm in Montana or on the East Coast, you've got to farm.

03:03:42.000 You've got to build.

03:03:43.000 You have a mechanic shop.

03:03:46.000 You're a trucker.

03:03:47.000 You've got to figure out exactly what the cost of goods are, what the profit margins are, and how you can pay your income.

03:03:54.000 These guys in Congress and the Senate have never had to do that.

03:03:58.000 If you look at the benefits of what they have, and you look at the White House benefits of what they have, we basically have a royalty and a kingship.

03:04:07.000 We didn't have a wedding In England, what we had was a marriage of the absurd and the sci-off here in America when bin Laden was just resurrected and in this greatest false False word I've ever heard.

03:04:22.000 I mean, it was absurd.

03:04:23.000 Stay there, Dr. Potenek.

03:04:25.000 The real live Jack Ryan of the Patriot Games with us now.

03:04:29.000 We'll be right back to continue breaking this down.

03:04:32.000 Who knows?

03:04:32.000 We'll just keep the whole hour if we can do it.

03:04:34.000 And take your phone calls.

03:04:35.000 We've got a lot more to talk about.

03:04:37.000 Breaking this down.

03:04:38.000 We'll be right back.

03:04:41.000 Do you suffer from adrenal fatigue?

03:04:42.000 Did you know that mercury from your dental fillings can deposit into your kidneys and adrenals and cause them to lose up to 60% of their functional capacity?

03:04:49.000 I've had first-hand experience with the damage mercury can do to the body.

03:04:53.000 I've made it a life's work to figure out what went wrong after I got two large mercury fillings put into my teeth.

03:04:58.000 I also know the most effective means by which the body can remove mercury.

03:05:02.000 It has to do in large part with how well your liver functions and how much glutathione your cells produce.

03:05:07.000 The number one superfood that supports optimal levels of glutathione is cold-processed whey protein from grass-fed cows.

03:05:13.000 One World Whey is unheated whey protein from grass-fed cows.

03:05:17.000 It is the most bioactive, undenatured whey protein on the market.

03:05:21.000 People are reporting health improvements from this one product that I've not seen in 20 years of clinical nutritional practice.

03:05:27.000 Call 888-988-3325.

03:05:28.000 That's 888-988-3325.

03:05:28.000 Or visit OneWorldWay.com.

03:05:29.000 888-3325.

03:05:31.000 That's 888-988-3325.

03:05:33.000 Or visit OneWorldWhey.com.

03:05:36.000 That's OneWorld, W-H-E-Y.com.

03:05:39.000 They helped to create a new world order.

03:05:43.000 We are part of a New World Order.

03:05:45.000 A New World Order based upon collective action.

03:05:48.000 Invisible Empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.

03:05:53.000 The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.

03:05:58.000 It means all the world under their control.

03:06:00.000 The United Nations would take over America.

03:06:03.000 The Trilateral Commission would control the world.

03:06:06.000 Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence have worked in stealth for centuries to establish an oppressive world government.

03:06:14.000 I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.

03:06:19.000 Global governance with the establishment of the G20.

03:06:21.000 So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.

03:06:26.000 And I got news for you.

03:06:27.000 You're everyone else.

03:06:28.000 Invisible Empire.

03:06:30.000 Secure your copy today at InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com or watch it online in the highest quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.

03:06:40.000 Hi, I'm Mark Craighead, founder of Crossbreed Holsters.

03:06:44.000 I designed our top-selling holster, the SuperTuck Deluxe, to solve the problems of being poked, pinched, and gouged while carrying concealed.

03:06:52.000 The SuperTuck Deluxe is the most comfortable, most concealable holster on the market today.

03:06:57.000 We offer a two-week free trial and a lifetime warranty.

03:07:00.000 Visit us at crossbreedholsters.com.

03:07:04.000 Don't forget, crossbreedholsters.com.

03:07:09.000 Hi, this is Ted Anderson.

03:07:10.000 Have you ever wondered why banks, stockbrokers, investment advisors won't talk about gold IRAs?

03:07:14.000 They've been available since 1986, yet the financial industry won't recognize the value of gold for your retirement.

03:07:20.000 Gold has outperformed paper investments, yet no word about IRAs.

03:07:24.000 If you would like to have gold for your retirement, call 800-686-2237.

03:07:27.000 Don't get left behind by rising inflation and low returns.

03:07:32.000 Call 800-686-2237.

03:07:34.000 Secure your future and call 1-800-686-2237.

03:07:38.000 Big Brother.

03:07:46.000 Mainstream media.

03:07:47.000 Government cover-ups.

03:07:50.000 You want answers?

03:07:52.000 Well, so does he.

03:07:53.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

03:07:57.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

03:08:03.000 Dr. Steve Pechenik is a board-certified psychiatrist.

03:08:07.000 That's the medical doctor end of the whole system.

03:08:11.000 And he was a psychological warfare expert chief brought in by the Pentagon against the Russians, you name it.

03:08:19.000 Uh, he is the character that Jack Ryan and others, uh, Tom Clancy is based on.

03:08:23.000 That's on record from Tom Clancy.

03:08:25.000 He himself is the author and creator of 26 New York Times bestsellers, and the advisor on many of, uh, Clancy's books.

03:08:31.000 You can see all of that at, uh, stevepatrinik.com.

03:08:34.000 So, you folks always wonder why, uh...

03:08:36.000 Why, uh, Tom Clancy knows so many inside things ended up happening later.

03:08:40.000 Here's one of his chief, uh, uh, guys, uh, giving him the intel.

03:08:43.000 I know you don't like to talk about yourself, but you are an interesting person, and it also goes to credibility.

03:08:47.000 You know, here you are, nine years ago and change, nine years and a month, April 22nd.

03:08:55.000 2002, and you say he died of this disease.

03:08:58.000 I saw it in the CIA documents, the disease he had.

03:09:02.000 This is the word.

03:09:02.000 I have this from inside sources.

03:09:04.000 You're a CFR fellow at the time.

03:09:06.000 You've worked under James Baker, George Shultz, Cyrus Vance, Henry Kissinger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and Senior Policy Planner, under those secretaries.

03:09:17.000 And here you are saying bin Laden's dead.

03:09:20.000 And he's on ice to be rolled out later.

03:09:22.000 Then two other White House sources tell me the same thing years later.

03:09:27.000 Then Albright comes out on Fox.

03:09:29.000 All these other things happen.

03:09:31.000 And, I mean, it's important for folks to hear some of your background, to understand that now we're here.

03:09:37.000 We're seeing it.

03:09:37.000 We're living it.

03:09:38.000 And then before we go to some calls out, we're going to be able to get out of the way. 0.80

03:09:40.000 I want you to specifically, again, because you keep saying, well, you know, they're not as smart as you think they are, why they're doing it, why they think they came out with this ridiculous bin Laden announcement that's so cartoonish that is blowing up in their face.

03:09:55.000 The foreign media, the domestic, it is just overwhelming.

03:09:58.000 The inconsistencies, even the Washington Post and others are like, well, they're conspiracy theorists, but it is weird that Uh, they threw him in the ocean.

03:10:06.000 It is weird.

03:10:07.000 There were fake photos.

03:10:08.000 It is weird they claim they killed him eight other times.

03:10:11.000 I was talking to the Washington Post lady, uh, and she was like, everybody in the office doesn't believe it.

03:10:16.000 She was giggling.

03:10:17.000 And I said, do you understand?

03:10:18.000 This isn't funny.

03:10:19.000 They, I mean, you know, they lied about WMDs. 0.90

03:10:21.000 They lied about it all.

03:10:23.000 Uh, and, uh, we're in a very serious time, but, but tell folks a little bit about yourself.

03:10:28.000 I mean, give us a snapshot of your career.

03:10:30.000 Very quickly, I went to Harvard and MIT at the same time, not because I was so smart, but because Harvard wasn't as good as I thought it was.

03:10:38.000 I got a psychiatric degree at Harvard and a PhD in International Affairs under Lucian Pye.

03:10:46.000 I was trained in psychological warfare, propaganda, counterintelligence, counterterrorism.

03:10:51.000 I went right into the State Department working for Lawrence Eagleburger and became the head of the Office of Combat Terrorism.

03:10:59.000 I worked against Arafat as a terrorist and then years later I worked with Arafat as a statesman.

03:10:59.000 I created that.

03:11:05.000 So one of the things you have to remember in the world of terrorism That today's terrorist is tomorrow's statesman.

03:11:10.000 That was true of Menachem Begin. 0.83

03:11:12.000 That was true of many of the terrorists that we worked with and now became statesmen.

03:11:15.000 It was true of our own founding fathers who were created as terrorists and now become our statesmen.

03:11:20.000 I then went on to remain in the Carter administration where I was involved in the regime change of Al D'Amaro.

03:11:26.000 I neutralized the Red Brigade, the P2 scandal. 0.99

03:11:29.000 I indicted Berlusconi then.

03:11:31.000 I'm sorry he ever came back.

03:11:33.000 I left under Carter, I resigned, refused to go to Iran because I had Ramsey Clark there and I thought it would be a disaster.

03:11:41.000 I went on then to create businesses.

03:11:43.000 My real love, and this country's great love, why I feel I'm a very strong American is that I am an entrepreneur.

03:11:50.000 I am what we call an angel investor.

03:11:52.000 I use my own money to create businesses and start them up and build them.

03:11:56.000 Not because it's the money.

03:11:57.000 I'm more than happy to lose the money.

03:11:59.000 It's because only in America can I do what I've done all the time, which is be able to create a business like Radio Frequency Identification, the Tom Clancy franchises, the TV shows, even radio shows.

03:12:11.000 And now I'm doing nutraceuticals and I'm doing orphan drugs.

03:12:15.000 And be able to succeed or fail, not by definition of money, but by definition of criteria that we build assets.

03:12:22.000 I was not interested in pushing papers or money back and forth, but I was interested in serving my country, which I really served for free and most of the time.

03:12:31.000 I was promoted to colonel at a very early age at 32.

03:12:34.000 I refused promotion to general, brigadier general at 37, because I felt not that I wanted to be in the army, but I felt I could serve my country best.

03:12:42.000 By going back out into public service and into private service and then offer my services for free, make my money outside on my own, and then come back and serve my country through the military and other organizations, and be able to go overseas for our country and offer strategic advice if they listen to it.

03:13:00.000 If not, I came back under Reagan and worked on the Soviet Union.

03:13:04.000 I was after the Rand Corporation for a year under a man called Richard Solomon, who brought me in to develop the Soviet takedown, the psychological operation we were involved.

03:13:15.000 Bush Sr. was really, under Reagan, the really impetus for the takedown of the Soviet Union, East Germany.

03:13:21.000 I then came back under Bush Sr., and I was involved in bringing the peace treaty under James Baker to bring a regime change under Pol Pot without using any wars, without using any soldiers. 0.75

03:13:34.000 My point is, most of the things that I've done, and I've done a lot in the Middle East, against Habash, Hawatme, even in the Gaza Strip, where I worked with the PLO, against the PLO, and where, ironically, and this will be a soft spot for the Israelis, in 88, ironically, and this will be a soft spot for the Israelis, in 88, I was sent out

03:13:55.000 To find out what was going on with the PLO, and I found out that the Shin Bet of Israel and ADA was creating a group called Hamas, which was used as a counterforce to the PLO.

03:14:05.000 And of course, eventually everybody learned that Hamas had a blowback, and now the Israelis have created their own Frankenstein. 0.97

03:14:12.000 The point being that we are not the only country in the world to create our own Frankenstein through al-Qaeda, which was really the Mushahadeen before. 0.96

03:14:20.000 I was involved with that under the Carter administration, subsequently another administration, Did you ever meet Osama Bin Laden?

03:14:30.000 Yes.

03:14:31.000 I saw him in Afghanistan very briefly, but I was more involved with other operational concerns, particularly the Pakistanis.

03:14:38.000 What was his role in the war against the Russians, and what was he like when you did meet him?

03:14:44.000 Well, I didn't know him very well.

03:14:46.000 Basically, I knew he was sick at the time.

03:14:48.000 I knew he had renal disease, and I knew he had Marfan's.

03:14:51.000 You could see that.

03:14:52.000 But basically, the guys who were CIA operatives said he had a supportive role there, and he was financing most of the elements there.

03:15:00.000 My interest was really more strategic.

03:15:02.000 He was more of the Saudi Arabians' man in the field with the money delivery?

03:15:08.000 Correct.

03:15:08.000 That was the understanding.

03:15:10.000 That's exactly correct.

03:15:11.000 He was not, from my point of view, he was not the keystone of the operations there.

03:15:16.000 That really was a CIA operation.

03:15:19.000 Most people think I worked with the CIA.

03:15:21.000 I was not in the CIA, but that's neither here nor there.

03:15:24.000 Even though I was a member of the CFR, I'm also a member of the Association of Foreign Intelligence Officers and National Military Intelligence Associations.

03:15:32.000 So, all these associations may mean something to you, may not, but I'm primarily an American.

03:15:37.000 No, I understand, and it must be horrifying for you, Doctor, to know that, like the Royal Wedding, worshipping people that, you know, who hereditarily got their power, who you have to get a, you know, imperial mark in the past to be able to even have a business.

03:15:51.000 Our forefathers and mothers came here to be able to build their own businesses, follow their own dreams, and now we see Obama Giving thousands of waivers to select corporations that give him money.

03:16:03.000 General Electric heads up his economic board.

03:16:05.000 They get waivers for their coal plants and then shut down their competition.

03:16:09.000 We're really entering this crony monopoly system.

03:16:12.000 That's got to be horrifying for you.

03:16:14.000 Well, it's more than horrifying.

03:16:16.000 It's called crony capitalism, and the banking episode was really beyond the pale for me.

03:16:21.000 I was totally shocked, disgusted, and I was waiting for people to get indicted, and I still hope people won't be indicted.

03:16:27.000 Crony capitalism cannot work.

03:16:29.000 Whether it's with Republicans, Democrats, or Independents, it cannot work.

03:16:32.000 We have to stop it as Americans. 0.68

03:16:34.000 This must stop in this administration and any future administration.

03:16:39.000 Please do not believe any politicians who come to you and tell you they believe in something whether they're Republicans or Democrats.

03:16:46.000 They're all full of BS.

03:16:48.000 Because all they care about is their own narcissism, their own desire for power.

03:16:52.000 Very few people are really interested in serving the government and then they would leave without pay.

03:16:57.000 I really have never found any of these people.

03:16:59.000 Except in my case, I found Bush Senior, I found Baker, who really didn't need money, even Vance on both sides.

03:17:06.000 But most people that I knew were very power hungry.

03:17:09.000 In this administration, you have a president totally, totally incapable of telling the truth.

03:17:15.000 Well, what about those narcissistic photos with them all posing?

03:17:18.000 I mean, you can see they did it over and over again until they got it, but shifting gears back to this key issue, there you are, this guy, high level in these Republican administrations, the son of someone you say you admire and who, from your perspective, is a good guy, obviously hardworking and intelligent, George Herbert Walker Bush, any way you slice it, when he didn't become the CIA director, You know why he became CIA director?

03:17:45.000 Even Jeb Bush didn't know that.

03:17:47.000 He became CIA director because Donald Rumsfeld wanted to neutralize him from running for the presidency.

03:17:52.000 And for 20 years, most people don't realize, either Cheney or Rumsfeld were allowed in the White House because they tried to Neutralized the future of this quiet man who never, never promoted himself.

03:18:06.000 I remember his saying to me and others that I'd never speak about myself because my mother wouldn't let me.

03:18:11.000 Do you believe that?

03:18:12.000 Well, you know, it's interesting that you bring that up because it's actually come out that George W. did bring in Cheney and Rumsfeld because of that split.

03:18:23.000 And that's then later when Baker and them were sent back in to kind of shut down what they were doing.

03:18:30.000 That's correct.

03:18:30.000 That's one of the reasons why I got on the phone in the middle when I was in Montana and I told Baker, I called him up.

03:18:36.000 but that what got me doing setting up the chairman of the republican party who Whatever, uh, very bizarre and unusual in his orientations and talking about abortion.

03:18:46.000 And I said, get rid of these guys.

03:18:48.000 What are you doing with Cheney and Rumsfeld?

03:18:50.000 I mean, these guys were persona non grata for 20 years in our administration.

03:18:55.000 So basically you have to understand within the American public has to understand that even under Bush Jr.

03:19:02.000 We had basically a quiet civil war that was going on between his father's people who were non-ideological and those who tried to implement ideology and their own narcissism.

03:19:12.000 What we have now is a very narcissistic, incompetent president with a very dysfunctional White House and a dysfunctional intelligence community.

03:19:20.000 Well, that was my next question, Dr. Pachenik, from your perspective, was why did you, in 2002, come on my show to talk about this bin Laden being in the deep freeze in a question 9-11?

03:19:32.000 We're going to come back, talk about that, and then we're going to go to your phone calls with Dr. Steve Pachenik.

03:19:38.000 What incredible info, but he told you this bin Laden thing's a fraud. 0.56

03:19:41.000 If you suffer from poor sleep, you need MyPillow.

03:19:44.000 Guaranteed to be the most comfortable pillow you will ever own.

03:19:47.000 Using a patented fill, MyPillow adjusts to your exact individual needs by gently supporting your head, shoulders, and neck.

03:19:53.000 MyPillow has a natural, built-in cooling effect, keeping your cervical nerves cool, giving you the best sleep of your life.

03:19:59.000 MyPillow will never go flat and relieve snoring, migraines, sleep apnea, Fibromyalgia and many other disorders.

03:20:05.000 It's antimicrobial, non-allergenic, dust mite resistant, and best of all, machine washable and dryable.

03:20:11.000 MyPillow is made in the USA, has an A rating with the Better Business Bureau, comes with a 60 day money back guarantee, and an industry leading 10 year warranty.

03:20:20.000 Order today at MyPillow.com or call 952-442-6199.

03:20:22.000 That's 952-442-6199.

03:20:27.000 442-6199.

03:20:29.000 Mention coupon code GCN and receive 20% off your order.

03:20:33.000 What do you have to lose except poor sleep?

03:20:35.000 MyPillow.com.

03:20:36.000 The most comfortable pillow you will ever own.

03:20:39.000 Guaranteed.

03:20:40.000 Mother's Day is this Sunday and Pro Flowers is offering an amazing Mother's Day special.

03:20:46.000 A beautiful bouquet of two dozen assorted Mother's Day roses with a free glass vase plus a free box of chocolates All for just $29.99.

03:20:55.000 Just visit proflowers.com.

03:20:57.000 Click on the microphone in the upper right corner and enter the secret code.

03:21:01.000 These two dozen assorted Mother's Day roses are bursting with color.

03:21:05.000 They're the perfect way to show all the moms in your life how much you appreciate them.

03:21:09.000 Two dozen assorted roses.

03:21:11.000 Guaranteed to stay beautiful for at least seven full days, plus a free glass vase and a free box of chocolates.

03:21:18.000 All for just $29.99.

03:21:20.000 But hurry, this special offer ends Friday.

03:21:23.000 Mother's Day is this Sunday and it's your last chance to take care of mom.

03:21:26.000 The only way to get your last chance Mother's Day offer is to visit ProFlowers.com.

03:21:31.000 Click on the microphone in the upper right corner and enter the secret code 400.

03:21:36.000 That's ProFlowers.com.

03:21:38.000 Secret code 400.

03:21:40.000 Iodine Protection Packs from HempUSA.org are now in stock for immediate delivery worldwide.

03:21:47.000 Our Iodine Protection Packs include Micro Plant Powder, Green Life Kelp, Red Palm Oil, and our clear Roll-On Iodine that will feed the body the iodine it needs.

03:21:58.000 All Iodine Protection Packs are in stock.

03:22:00.000 Save you money and ship for free in all 50 states.

03:22:04.000 Visit HempUSA.org or call 908-691-2608 today.

03:22:09.000 We the people grow cotton, weave fabric, engrave ink, embed strips and fibers to protect from counterfeit, then carting to a private bank, having it lent back at interest, forcing taxes to service debt.

03:22:19.000 This capitalism?

03:22:19.000 Or was Jefferson correct when stating a central bank issuing the public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?

03:22:26.000 Hi, Ted Anderson.

03:22:27.000 I'm placing a silver dollar in a book that explains our monetary system.

03:22:30.000 Call for your copy at 800-686-2237.

03:22:31.000 It's time to understand the system.

03:22:32.000 It's time to understand the system.

03:22:32.000 Call 800-686-2237.

03:22:35.000 Call 800-686-2237.

03:22:36.000 That's 800-686-2237.

03:22:39.000 Over the last year, Alex has told you about, and many of you have experienced emergencies and disasters in unprecedented numbers.

03:22:47.000 People have had to literally run for their lives.

03:22:50.000 Folks, this is Steve Schenck with eFoods Direct.

03:22:52.000 I'm not here to scare you, but when disaster strikes, you won't have time to think.

03:22:57.000 You must act automatically.

03:22:58.000 What does a pilot do when the helicopter engine fails in flight?

03:23:02.000 No time to think, just act automatically.

03:23:05.000 When the alert is broadcast, the alarm sounds, or the knock comes on your door, you'll need to be ready to act without thinking of what to do or what you need.

03:23:13.000 You need a five-day extreme emergency kit.

03:23:16.000 With serious supplies and real food to secure two adults for five days, this powerful $300 extreme emergency kit is free with an order of at least $995 from eFoodsDirect.

03:23:27.000 Go to eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex or call 800-409-5633.

03:23:33.000 That's eFoodsDirect.com slash Alex, 800-409-5633.

03:23:39.000 You know what I can't believe?

03:23:56.000 We got a long way.

03:23:57.000 Just the providence of this radio show.

03:23:59.000 Because I'm just an average guy who started reading history books when I was 12 and thought they were interesting and entertaining.

03:24:05.000 And reading history I learned so much about how the world works today.

03:24:09.000 And then I've talked to the general public, who many of them are informed and have street smarts, but if they would really start researching, they would find out how much they're being lied to, and that the culture is getting more and more entitled in Washington, the corporations that have grown up around it, the crony system are so out of control.

03:24:26.000 Your phone calls for Dr. Steve Pachenik.

03:24:28.000 We're coming up in the next segment and hopefully we can get him back up in the very near future.

03:24:33.000 And I keep asking him this question and he's answered it in many ways.

03:24:37.000 But just boiling it down in a language that the mainstream media can understand and government can understand, why would they do something that is so cartoonishly satirical where And I'm not just saying this to make it come true, because I was pretty depressed yesterday, but now the tables are turning.

03:24:59.000 It is exploding in their face.

03:25:01.000 I mean, it's almost more scary, doctor, that you're probably right, that they have the power, they have the control, so they're able to do what they want, they think they're smart, but at the end of the day, they're making a lot of things that look like big mistakes, as the Republic 0.98

03:25:17.000 It's about the word that you want to use right now, the key word that did all of this psyops resurrection of Osama Bin Laden, which is a joke and a sick joke and a cynical joke on the American public, treating them as if we were stupid, is desperation. 0.97

03:25:44.000 They are so desperate.

03:25:46.000 To make Obama viable, to negate the fact that he may not have been born here, any questions about his background, any irregularities about his background, to make him look assertive, to make sure that Gates goes out in a clean sweep and that he's done what he's done.

03:26:03.000 This is a good man, Gates, and bringing in a man who is questionably qualified to be Secretary of Defense, who is questionably qualified to be CIA Director Panetta, to bring in a whole other staff that really has not been very effective, and to reelect this president again for the American public and be duked once again after we've been duked by Bush Jr. and Clinton.

03:26:25.000 The point is they've underestimated the American public.

03:26:30.000 Again, you can thank David Axelrod of the White House, this very self-aggrandizing, very pretentious man who thinks he understands the American public because he pulls them every minute.

03:26:43.000 And basically what we have here is a desperate situation on behalf of an incompetent president who's not told the truth.

03:26:51.000 Who hopes to be reelected because he has nothing to offer but words which are totally meaningless and will hopefully get forth.

03:26:59.000 On the other hand, let me warn you that the Republicans and other parties have no candidates that are capable of filling the role that America needs today, which is a pragmatic, non-narcissistic, non-egoistic, Practical man or woman who has served our country on behalf of our country, hopefully in the military, hopefully in business, and hopefully has had a clean history and can understand where we're going strategically and practically.

03:27:28.000 That has not happened in the past 24 years.

03:27:32.000 That's basically where we are today, in desperation with capital cronyism, corruption, and non-transparency.

03:27:40.000 What we need now is Torea Square in Washington, D.C.

03:27:44.000 and all over the country where people will go... We're going to talk about that when we come back and then take calls, but in the minute or two we have left in this short segment, why did you go public in 2002 with something at the time, you know, that sounded a little bit wild to some people, but I knew it had a historical basis, and say... Everybody who has accused me of making wild statements regretted it ten years later.

03:28:06.000 Aldo Morrow did, Pol Pot did, Noriega, all ...regretted the fact when I said to them, you're leaving and you're not staying, they were gone. 0.60

03:28:16.000 The reason I came forth and I said I warned Bush Jr.

03:28:20.000 and Cheney and Rumsfeld, you will pay for the crimes you've committed against the American public, and part of that is this nonsense of Osama bin Laden being the leader of some nonsensical group that we created under the Carter administration was fostered Through tens of years and going into Pakistan through a nonsensical war that didn't exist to allow men and women to die.

03:28:45.000 Are you bottom line saying they ran the attacks or they hired some criminal group to do it?

03:28:50.000 They ran the attacks.

03:28:50.000 No, no, no.

03:28:52.000 The 9-11 is the total manufacturer of one organization, the White House, under Bush Jr.

03:28:59.000 Bush Jr., Cheney, Rumsfeld.

03:29:03.000 Stay there, sir.

03:29:04.000 Stay there.

03:29:08.000 Stay there.

03:29:09.000 Repeat that.

03:29:11.000 Stay there.

03:29:12.000 Let's come back and repeat that because the music was playing.

03:29:14.000 This is absolutely devastating.

03:29:16.000 Dr. Steve Pchenik's got major credibility and he is going all the way today putting it on the table.

03:29:23.000 This is off the charts.

03:29:24.000 We'll be right back.

03:29:25.000 Stay with us.

03:29:26.000 We're on the march.

03:29:32.000 The empire's on the run.

03:29:34.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

03:29:40.000 Hi, this is Alex Jones.

03:29:42.000 Did you know that the global elite are now storing non-hybrid seeds in secret storage vaults near the Arctic Circle?

03:29:47.000 Did you know that in a real meltdown, non-hybrid seeds could become more valuable than silver or gold?

03:29:52.000 It's true.

03:29:53.000 Seeds have outperformed even gold and silver before in this country.

03:29:56.000 And it's possible they could even happen again.

03:29:58.000 So our friends at Solutions from Science have put together the perfect mix of non-hybrid seeds. 0.84

03:30:03.000 They call it a survival seed bank.

03:30:05.000 And it can produce an endless supply of nutrient-dense food for you and your family.

03:30:10.000 And here's the best part.

03:30:11.000 These seeds have not been genetically modified in any way.

03:30:14.000 And you actually get enough seeds to plant a full acre crisis garden.

03:30:18.000 So visit them today at survivalseedbank.com.

03:30:21.000 That's SurvivalSeedBank.com.

03:30:23.000 Or give them a call at 877-327-0365.

03:30:27.000 That's 877-327-0365.

03:30:32.000 Remember, in a real crisis, non-hybrid seeds are the ultimate barter item. 1.00

03:30:37.000 This is Alex Jones for SurvivalSeedBank.com.

03:30:40.000 America, you've been warned.

03:30:42.000 For weeks, we've been warning you about a single event we believe will happen in the next 12 months that will shake the very foundations of our nation.

03:30:49.000 We've told you about the video that details this shocking prediction.

03:30:52.000 So far, over 6 million people have watched this free video online.

03:30:56.000 Have you?

03:30:57.000 Again, this big event has nothing to do with war or the stock market, yet it could change everything about your normal way of life, the way you shop, travel, invest, educate your children, and even how you take care of your health and your family.

03:31:08.000 Could this really happen?

03:31:10.000 Well, the man who created this video has been right about many predictions in his career.

03:31:13.000 He was among the first to predict the collapse of GM, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and America's biggest mall owner, General Growth Properties.

03:31:20.000 In fact, Barron's called his work a dire prophecy.

03:31:22.000 If you haven't taken time to watch this free video, do it right now.

03:31:26.000 You may never think about America the same way again.

03:31:28.000 You can find the free video at endofamerica3.com.

03:31:32.000 Again, that's www.endofamerica3.com.

03:31:35.000 Watch the free video at endofamerica3.com.

03:31:38.000 That's endofamerica3.com.

03:31:39.000 Concerned about nuclear contamination?

03:31:47.000 You're not alone.

03:31:48.000 If you understand the risk of today's food being contaminated from nuclear fallout, you would not only trust wild food for survival, you'd count on it.

03:31:56.000 Wild food is the most prolific, fastest growing food available.

03:32:00.000 It's fresh, because it doesn't sit in the field for 8 to 10 weeks being fertilized or sprayed with pesticides, accumulating radiation.

03:32:07.000 And wild food is not genetically altered.

03:32:10.000 Ounce for ounce, wild food has more nutrition and less harmful elements than any animal or commercial agriculturally grown food.

03:32:17.000 It can detoxify the body.

03:32:19.000 And the best part?

03:32:20.000 Wild food is free for the taking.

03:32:22.000 Let author Linda Runyon show you how to identify, harvest, prepare, eat, and store wild food.

03:32:29.000 Go to ofthefield.com or call 888-51-EAT-FREE.

03:32:31.000 888-51-EAT-FREE.

03:32:32.000 That's 888-513-2837.

03:32:35.000 Or visit ofthefield.com for your survival.

03:32:39.000 We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center in the heart of the resistance.

03:32:54.000 Rallying patriots worldwide.

03:32:58.000 you You're listening to the Alex Jones Show.

03:33:08.000 Well, the email, the tweets, the phone calls are pouring in.

03:33:12.000 Listeners are just Completely amazed by the interview.

03:33:16.000 I really appreciate Dr. Steve Pchenik spending so much time with us.

03:33:20.000 I'll obviously have to get him back in the near future.

03:33:22.000 And I want to go to some of your phone calls, but I was going back to 2002 when he went public.

03:33:30.000 Then he was saying, I have questions about 9-11.

03:33:33.000 You know, there are issues with this.

03:33:35.000 We created these groups.

03:33:37.000 Now, as we went to break, he was laying it all out and naming names.

03:33:43.000 Dr. Pachinik, again, who served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and or Senior Policy Planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Shultz, and James Baker, as three of the most famous kingmakers of the last hundred years right there.

03:33:57.000 Dr. Pachinik continues to consult the Department of Defense, ran black ops, major operations, Overthrows of governments, you name it, stevepachinik.com.

03:34:06.000 He is, of course, on record, Tom Clancy.

03:34:08.000 Helped Tom Clancy write his 26th best-selling New York Times bestsellers with his advice.

03:34:14.000 Several of the characters, like Jack Ryan, are based on him, as well as Richard Clark.

03:34:20.000 And Dr. Pachinik, uninterrupted by the break, take your time.

03:34:25.000 What was the event of 9-11-A and B?

03:34:28.000 Why was it carried out?

03:34:31.000 The event of 9-11 was carried out for one purpose.

03:34:34.000 It was carried out to mobilize the American public to go to a war that they didn't need to go to, that they knew nothing about, where we had prepositioned soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq six to nine months beforehand.

03:34:46.000 And what it was done, it was based on Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Cheney, Dick Cheney, Bush Jr., Steve Hadley, Elliott Abrams in the White House, Almeh Halazad, Dennis Ross, who's now our still envoy, who's never been held accountable. Dennis Ross, who's now our still envoy, who's never been You have Condoleezza Rice.

03:35:09.000 You have all the people who were in the military, particularly the Air Force generals who were involved.

03:35:16.000 They can deny it any much they want, but I have a whole list of names.

03:35:19.000 They know who they are.

03:35:20.000 and the intel, the CIA operatives who worked under SOLIC, Special Operations Low Intensity Conflict, were all involved in what's called a stand-down, a false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public on the false pretense that we were attacked by al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, a false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public on the false pretense that

03:35:41.000 It was told to me, even by the general and the staff of Wolfowitz, I would go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who the name was of the individual so that we could break it open.

03:35:53.000 I was furious.

03:35:54.000 I knew what had happened.

03:35:56.000 I taught stand-down and false flag operations at the National War College.

03:36:00.000 I taught it with all my operatives, so I knew exactly what was done to the American public.

03:36:05.000 Believe it or not, I had worked on George Bush Jr.'s campaign, With Bob Zoellick, not with the Vulcans, but with Bob Zoellick in order to work against Gore, which I regret today, because I had been loyal to his father.

03:36:18.000 And that issue of Osama bin Laden, who had already been dead, really brought up the issue of the Great Lie and the Great War that was created for us to make sure that we had some type of commitment to a war that was not necessary, where blood and guts were shed for unnecessary reasons, Dr. Pucinich, I've got to stop because this is so dangerous.

03:36:44.000 I believe this is the first time you've gone this far and when the DC Madam was on my show and she was trying to tell me during the break names of people and I said I don't want to know this you've got to go public with this you're gonna end up you know committing Arkansas and obviously you're a tough guy you're not worried about that but I mean no I don't think so.

03:37:06.000 We all have a mutual, let's say, a mutual deterrent relationship.

03:37:10.000 It's not going to be to their benefit.

03:37:11.000 No, I understand.

03:37:13.000 But, I mean, you don't want to then say the name of the general.

03:37:17.000 The general who swore to me?

03:37:20.000 I'm not, no. 0.99

03:37:21.000 I will do that in the federal court so that we can unravel this legally, not with the stupid 9-11 commission. 1.00

03:37:27.000 That was absurd. 0.99

03:37:28.000 That was the most absurd thing I'd heard.

03:37:30.000 That's why I came on your show, Alex.

03:37:32.000 One of the reasons when I went on the shows like Chris Matthews, CNN, all of that nonsense, is they wanted me to say certain things, and Matthews had no idea what we were talking about.

03:37:41.000 Going to Iraq at the time, you had all these anchormen and basically pretty boys up in I've met some of these people.

03:37:48.000 They are like children.

03:37:49.000 I'm not even saying I'm... They're children.

03:37:52.000 They had no idea whether I was a deputy assistant secretary or what that meant.

03:37:56.000 All they wanted me to do was to give soundbites and I said I refused.

03:37:59.000 Then they asked basically, so I found you by chance and I said, you know what?

03:38:04.000 I heard your show.

03:38:05.000 I thought you were extremely bright.

03:38:07.000 This is not flattery as we talked about.

03:38:09.000 And I was more than grateful to be on your show.

03:38:12.000 When I went on your show and I told you Osama Bin Laden was dead in 2011, uh, 2, I wasn't hypothesizing.

03:38:20.000 I knew it because he had Marfan syndrome.

03:38:22.000 I knew the CIA had investigated, had treated him in a Dubai hospital, an American hospital.

03:38:27.000 They can deny anything they want.

03:38:29.000 That's all they do.

03:38:30.000 They run around creating problems.

03:38:32.000 By the way, after you said that, uh, Dan Rather did a report on it and interviewed the people at the hospital who saw it.

03:38:39.000 Oh, they did.

03:38:40.000 I didn't even see that with Dan Rather.

03:38:41.000 But my point is, you still maintained your credibility.

03:38:45.000 And because ten years later, nine years later, you mentioned my name, I was stunned.

03:38:50.000 I had no idea because I was working on another company.

03:38:53.000 I'm basically an entrepreneur who volunteers my time for the military to help them out.

03:38:59.000 And basically, as an American, I said, I'm sick of this. 0.63

03:39:02.000 And I went back on your show to say, this is disgusting. 0.63

03:39:05.000 This is Osama bin Laden issue again. 0.94

03:39:09.000 Keystone's the issue about an incompetent, dysfunctional administration that is lying once again to the American public.

03:39:17.000 We can't continue this.

03:39:18.000 This is why I went on your show. 0.96

03:39:20.000 I don't care whether Obama's desperate or he's incompetent or he's narcissistic.

03:39:26.000 I care that he does not get re-elected.

03:39:28.000 I care that the Republicans don't get re-elected. 1.00

03:39:31.000 I care that the American people stand up once again and say we've had enough of this bullshit. 0.99

03:39:37.000 We have all these politicians on the Republican and Democratic side, the capital cronyism, the entire incompetency, the transnational corporations. 0.99

03:39:46.000 And believe me, I don't come from the left or the right.

03:39:48.000 You don't serve Nixon, Reagan, and Bush and come out with these comments.

03:39:52.000 I'm not losing friends and I'm not making friends.

03:39:55.000 I don't really care about those things.

03:39:57.000 I do care that as an American, don't Mess with me. 1.00

03:40:02.000 You can imagine the real word I wanted to use.

03:40:03.000 No, I understand.

03:40:04.000 Did you hear my story about... Don't mess with any of my people in America.

03:40:08.000 That's it.

03:40:09.000 And the politicians think they can mess with... You're not their slave and you hate seeing America being gutted by crony capitalists.

03:40:16.000 You got it.

03:40:17.000 Not only crony capitalists, but the stickable lies and manipulation.

03:40:21.000 Did you hear my story about Lionel Chetwin, the White House media head for propaganda?

03:40:28.000 That's absurd.

03:40:29.000 I mean, it's absurd.

03:40:30.000 You need a White House... Think about it for a moment, Alex George.

03:40:33.000 You need somebody to come out and talk, to say, to interpret to a bunch of, what, sycophants and reporters in the day of the Internet?

03:40:41.000 What do you have reporters there for? 0.98

03:40:43.000 To translate on a piece of paper what you were taking?

03:40:46.000 I mean, think of the notion of the newspaper now.

03:40:49.000 It makes no sense, Alex.

03:40:51.000 Well, my point is they all think they all think they're a bunch of gangsters because they're about to go on a TV show.

03:40:58.000 I'm in the bathroom.

03:40:59.000 Here comes Lionel Chatwin, who made the made for TV movie about Bush being a hero on 9-11.

03:41:04.000 And he came over like a gangster and started getting in my face going, we're going to effing get you.

03:41:09.000 And as soon as I bowed up to him, he almost urinated on himself and ran out of the room. 0.90

03:41:14.000 I'm saying these are the type of people.

03:41:16.000 I mean, if you're going to threaten somebody in a bathroom, you better be ready.

03:41:19.000 I mean, you see what I'm saying?

03:41:21.000 Yeah, you got it, but they're not. 0.99

03:41:23.000 Most of the politicians are cowardly. 0.80

03:41:25.000 In terms of the dynamics, I'm now speaking as somebody who's a political psychiatrist and treated many of them. 1.00

03:41:30.000 They're very insecure, very cowardly.

03:41:33.000 They have the same dynamics of movie stars and actresses. 1.00

03:41:36.000 They want to say to you, love me, love me.

03:41:38.000 I want more and more and more affection.

03:41:40.000 They cannot perform.

03:41:42.000 They cannot produce.

03:41:43.000 They have no capability to finish anything that they started.

03:41:47.000 They've never been held accountable.

03:41:49.000 It is not an accident.

03:41:50.000 For the past three presidents, we have had people who have never had a mortgage, who have never been able to have a job.

03:41:57.000 Clinton left the White House, said, oh, poor me, poor me, I have no money.

03:42:01.000 A year later, he's $100 million supporting Dubai, bringing in a port, while Hillary Clinton comes in and says, oh no, we shouldn't have a port.

03:42:09.000 George Bush Jr.

03:42:10.000 says, I'm going to go to Texas and start a oil company.

03:42:13.000 Unfortunately, his father started it when it had a hand in it, and he screwed that one up.

03:42:18.000 Now you have an organizer in the ghettos of Chicago who has done nothing. 0.92

03:42:23.000 Absolutely nothing.

03:42:25.000 Has never really held a job, has never been a... but perhaps he's given a few lectures as a professor.

03:42:31.000 God only knows he was what, at Harvard?

03:42:33.000 And everybody thinks that's a great position.

03:42:36.000 And somehow, mysteriously, from the most crooked city in this country, Chicago, we get a president.

03:42:43.000 How is that possible?

03:42:44.000 With Rami Emanuel, who has a master's degree in ballet.

03:42:48.000 Now, that is really impressive to me.

03:42:51.000 And we know what that really means.

03:42:53.000 He has a master's degree in, uh... I'm a chief of staff for a man who's never been in the presidency.

03:42:59.000 And it really was shocking.

03:43:01.000 And then he talks about, and then under Bush Jr., we have a major crisis in the banking system.

03:43:07.000 He doesn't know what to do.

03:43:08.000 He brings in Paulson, who had no idea what he was doing, because I was a banker, by the way.

03:43:13.000 One of my positions was as managing director of investment bank, taking it down.

03:43:18.000 for six months and left Wall Street. 0.54

03:43:19.000 It was so disgusting.

03:43:21.000 And I knew Paulson had no idea.

03:43:22.000 And when I talked to the congressman, I said, listen, guys, you don't have a banker there.

03:43:26.000 They have no idea what they're doing.

03:43:28.000 Lo and behold, that whole thing unfolded.

03:43:30.000 And now we have such a crippled banking.

03:43:33.000 Well, sir, you like Petraeus.

03:43:34.000 And I respect that.

03:43:36.000 But it was also Henry Paulson repeatedly did collapse in closed sessions two different days.

03:43:42.000 Petraeus collapsed.

03:43:43.000 What's all this collapsing business?

03:43:46.000 Basically, I don't know about Paul Sinclair.

03:43:48.000 Petraeus, it's public, he has cancer of the prostate.

03:43:51.000 That's not, that's not classified.

03:43:53.000 Oh, really?

03:43:54.000 Oh, so he's been having... He's not a well man, he's also a man who overreaches.

03:43:58.000 But Paulson, I would not say is the hero of the...

03:44:01.000 No, I understand.

03:44:02.000 I understand working too hard and then collapsing.

03:44:06.000 Petraeus, I think, has had an illness which was not classified.

03:44:09.000 He has had cancer of the prostate.

03:44:11.000 I assume he's better, but he's worked very hard. 0.96

03:44:13.000 But the issue with Paulson is that man was incompetent.

03:44:16.000 He's an investment banker.

03:44:18.000 He has nothing to do with cash flow fiscal policy.

03:44:21.000 Then you had Greenspan, who told you he was doing a wonderful job, and he put the foot Accelerated to the pedal and boy, we went right over the abyss and then he comes back and said, oh no, that was a minor incident.

03:44:34.000 Derivatives were really very effective.

03:44:37.000 Let me throw a few more questions in for you and we'll take a few calls.

03:44:40.000 This is unbelievable, Dr. Pachenik, stevepachenik.com.

03:44:44.000 The anthrax attacks, you know, they said it was brewed in a bathtub, later they admitted super U.S. 0.55

03:44:50.000 weapons grade, miniaturized, hundreds of millions of dollars of equipment needed.

03:44:54.000 What was the anthrax attack?

03:44:56.000 I really don't know.

03:44:57.000 That one I have to bow out.

03:44:59.000 I don't know what that was about.

03:45:02.000 What's your intel on Obama and why they've been suppressing so many of his records?

03:45:09.000 What are you picking up on that?

03:45:10.000 At this particular point in time, I think it's best that your audience figure out what the history of Obama was in Chicago.

03:45:10.000 You know what?

03:45:18.000 I really don't want to get into the birthing thing. 0.99

03:45:20.000 I think that's been discussed.

03:45:22.000 But there are other issues and I think it's best that this country do its own homework.

03:45:26.000 You have a very intelligent audience, and I think they should find out about themselves.

03:45:30.000 What he did in Chicago, what's his relationship to Rami Emanuel, why was Rami Emanuel brought in, and why is he now mayor of Chicago?

03:45:41.000 A master's in ballet who had no other profession.

03:45:44.000 All right, we got it.

03:45:45.000 So it looks like Emanuel's blackmailing Obama somehow with the fact that they like to...

03:45:51.000 I didn't say that.

03:45:52.000 I just want your audience to do their due diligence as you have.

03:45:55.000 I want them to follow you and what you've said.

03:45:58.000 And that is to be educated, self-educated, and informed.

03:46:02.000 Well, we know all about male ballet dancers.

03:46:05.000 We'll just leave it at that statistically.

03:46:07.000 It's not a ballet dancer.

03:46:09.000 This is a master in ballet dance.

03:46:11.000 It's beyond a ballet dancer.

03:46:12.000 Well, I mean, there are occasional black sheep who are male ballet dancers. 0.99

03:46:16.000 I don't know about that.

03:46:17.000 All I know is his brother, his one brother's an agent in Hollywood, and his other brother, quote, is a physician at the United... Well, what about their family connections to, uh, eargun?

03:46:27.000 Uh, in Israel, you... His father was in the Oguns Feiluming, that is true. 0.90

03:46:30.000 His father was a pediatrician and was part of a terrorist gang.

03:46:34.000 He himself, I think, served in the IDF for a period of time.

03:46:40.000 Unbelievable, sir.

03:46:41.000 In the last 12 minutes we have, let's take some phone calls.

03:46:43.000 I'll try to tomorrow take more calls, folks, but this has been unbelievable.

03:46:47.000 Anything else about the inside job that was 9-11?

03:46:50.000 I mean, you're saying you've talked to high-level U.S.

03:46:53.000 government officials, military...

03:46:54.000 is that nobody has been held accountable.

03:46:56.000 Pennant should never receive an award.

03:46:58.000 He should have been put on trial.

03:47:00.000 Bush should have been put on trial.

03:47:02.000 Cheney should be put on trial as Rumsfeld.

03:47:04.000 Instead, they all received books.

03:47:06.000 Condoleezza should be put on trial and investigated under charges of perjury and war crime.

03:47:12.000 It's as simple as that. - By the way, ABC News did report that-- - You've got other people, Elliot Abrams, you've got Wolfowitz out there, and you've got a lot of potential criminals.

03:47:24.000 If this country doesn't come to its resolution, instead of creating this nonsense that we have a war and we have heroes and we do have victims, we have to stop this.

03:47:33.000 Otherwise, we can't go forward.

03:47:36.000 Well, it was in ABC News that Top Military Brass, a week before it canceled their September 11th flight to New York, Mayor Willie Brown, San Francisco Chronicle, this was confirmed, called Condoleezza.

03:47:46.000 No, she called him and said, don't fly to New York.

03:47:49.000 I mean, these guys are just red-handed caught, then lying about never hearing chatter about flying planes into buildings, when on record they ordered FBI agents nationwide who were on the trail of the legend they were building, the fake decoy history.

03:48:05.000 You know, it's time again that I say we have our own Tahiriri Square.

03:48:07.000 The young kids of Egypt went forth and did what they did. 0.74

03:48:10.000 America needs a second revolution.

03:48:12.000 who blocked the FBI trying to stop the attacks.

03:48:16.000 I mean, and it goes on and on and on and on.

03:48:20.000 You know, it's time again that I say we have our own Tahrir Square.

03:48:25.000 The young kids of Egypt went forth and did what they did. 0.74

03:48:29.000 America needs a second revolution.

03:48:31.000 That second revolution has to entail the peaceful means by which we can get rid of this type of capital cronyism, corruption and criminal activity.

03:48:43.000 It's again, we were born of a revolution.

03:48:45.000 A real revolution.

03:48:47.000 We fought England twice.

03:48:48.000 Not once, but twice.

03:48:50.000 And we need to now understand that our government has no longer served the people, for the people, by the people.

03:48:57.000 And that's why I came back on your show.

03:48:59.000 I was so disgusted to hear this nonsense about Osama bin Laden being resurrected and that they had shot him, unless they attacked a mortuary.

03:49:10.000 I have no idea what this nonsense was, but the point is it underlied another cancerous administration with lies, deceit, betrayal, including the Republicans and Democrats and the legislation. 0.79

03:49:26.000 You know, a right-winger. 0.56

03:49:27.000 I'm not a conspiracist.

03:49:29.000 I trained at Harvard, MIT.

03:49:31.000 I've been under five presidencies.

03:49:33.000 So no matter what the press tells you, no matter what they'll say, Alex Jones had the courage enough to put me on the air, and I had the gall enough to go on the air, which is, by the way, not unusual for me because I told some presidents to leave. 0.81

03:49:48.000 Go screw yourself, but because I save lives.

03:49:51.000 My job isn't to take down countries only, it's to save hostages. 0.98

03:49:55.000 I saved many hundreds of hostages lives.

03:49:58.000 Now, I was so disgusted, I went back on your show to thank you for allowing me to address the incredible public.

03:50:05.000 Well, thank you.

03:50:05.000 Thank you, Dr. Bushenica.

03:50:07.000 At the moment that they... This is enough, and that's all I want to say.

03:50:11.000 Wow, wow.

03:50:11.000 Let's jam some calls in here.

03:50:13.000 This is an unbelievable interview, ladies and gentlemen.

03:50:16.000 It's all of our job to get this interview on the podcast and the YouTubes and the audio of it out to everybody.

03:50:22.000 Let's talk to Alex in Michigan.

03:50:24.000 You're on the air, Alex.

03:50:25.000 Go ahead.

03:50:25.000 Hi, Mr. Jones and Dr. Breschenik.

03:50:29.000 My question for you, doctor, is that when we deal with this, as you aptly put, this nonsense with Osama bin Laden allegedly being captured and killed, This operation was allegedly authorized and carried out a couple of weeks ago in April.

03:50:44.000 So why did Obama wait that long a time and then announce this, out of all places, Sunday night at 1030?

03:50:53.000 And my second part of the question to that is, if we go back a week ago, after bin Laden would have supposedly been killed, we see the shuffle with Panetta and Petraeus into the Defense Department and CIA.

03:51:06.000 What does all of this mean?

03:51:08.000 What is the purpose of waiting?

03:51:10.000 It's a very good question.

03:51:13.000 The timing, I can speculate.

03:51:15.000 Basically, they did it so late so that nobody could comment on it.

03:51:18.000 The reason for the timing, and now at this particular point in time, is Gates is leaving.

03:51:24.000 And Panetta had to establish some credibility where he had none before.

03:51:29.000 The Pakistanis were extremely angry that he had killed many civilians, which he had.

03:51:34.000 Also, if you remember correctly, two years ago, he had made a major mess where CIA operatives were killed because there was no clearance.

03:51:42.000 Secondly, you have to remember now the CIA is not the CIA of the Cold War or the people, the brave people I worked with in the 80s and 90s.

03:51:52.000 This is a very different CIA now.

03:51:54.000 80% of the CIA right now are contract employees.

03:51:58.000 Listen to what I'm saying.

03:51:59.000 That means they're mercenaries.

03:52:01.000 We have primarily mercenaries underneath Panetta.

03:52:05.000 Annette is not an intel operative. 0.86

03:52:06.000 He's basically, I've got to give him his credit, he's a budget man.

03:52:10.000 And the reason they're moving him to the Defense Department now is Gates is leaving, because Gates was an excellent Secretary of Defense.

03:52:18.000 But don't mercenaries open you up to total infiltration?

03:52:22.000 Oh, yeah, because you don't know who they're loyal to.

03:52:26.000 Only one thing, the dollar.

03:52:27.000 The American public has to understand, we have primarily mercenaries in most of what we have in contract offices.

03:52:34.000 When I say we have contractees, we have mercenaries.

03:52:38.000 Many of our troops are very disgusted with that because I've got a soldier who makes $35,000 and next to him, I have the same man making a quarter of a million with no taxes whatsoever and no restrictions in terms of... Yeah, he has immunity.

03:52:52.000 Alex, I appreciate your...

03:52:53.000 Basic, Alex, what I'm saying to you is the timing had to do with Gates leaving, Panetta having been switched into the Secretary of Defense, although I suspect he didn't really want to be SecDef.

03:53:03.000 He wanted to remain as DCI, Director of the CIA, and Petraeus is heading up the CIA, which is unusual for a general because he ran the Special Forces units and CENTCOM, and he ran much of the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, and he knows the drones, and he knows the so-called Al Qaeda.

03:53:21.000 We've got to jump here.

03:53:23.000 Sure, and I agree with you.

03:53:24.000 10 o'clock at night, so the papers were already lined up to not question, to then have total control of the message the next morning, to control the entire week with the announcement, and the whole thing was scripted.

03:53:35.000 Let's talk to Adrian.

03:53:37.000 You agree, Dr. Pachinik?

03:53:39.000 No, I mean, you said something?

03:53:39.000 I'm sorry?

03:53:41.000 I'm sorry, did you say?

03:53:42.000 No, I didn't say anything.

03:53:43.000 Okay, Adrian in Missouri, you're on the air.

03:53:46.000 Hi, doctor.

03:53:49.000 My question is, After all of this shenanigans that's going on with Osama being dead and everything and Obama trying to get re-elected, after all of this is done, you know, after that announcement in 2012 that he has won the presidency again or whatever, how do you think America is going to react?

03:54:16.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:54:16.000 Like, what is the approval rating going to be?

03:54:20.000 And if they stoop so low again, how will you try to get America back on board?

03:54:26.000 That's an excellent question, Adrian.

03:54:29.000 I really think about it and I don't know the answer, but this is what I would speculate.

03:54:33.000 Our unemployment is still remaining high.

03:54:36.000 We have had capital investments, but we're not doing it into major projects like railroads, which we need, bridges that have to be reconstructed, houses that have to go.

03:54:45.000 We need to get that unemployment 10 to 19 million people back on the job.

03:54:50.000 He will get re-elected and he will probably do whatever he needs to do, which is an agenda that is not clear at this point.

03:54:57.000 But he will continue to push through Obamacare, which will be a disaster for our health program.

03:55:02.000 Unemployment will probably remain high.

03:55:05.000 And he will keep the military positioned in the areas where we don't need it.

03:55:10.000 And basically our capital cronyism will continue.

03:55:14.000 But I warn of two things.

03:55:16.000 The food prices and gas prices will continue to rise.

03:55:20.000 Food prices have risen 35% because we decreased the value of the dollar.

03:55:25.000 The commodity prices went up.

03:55:27.000 But Adrian, it's an excellent question.

03:55:29.000 The seat does not change his color.

03:55:32.000 I mean, basically, he's going to be what he's always been.

03:55:35.000 He's going to accommodate to the moment and to the interests of the people for whom he works, which is not the United States of America.

03:55:42.000 The banking, primarily in Wall Street and the transnational corporation.

03:55:46.000 But it's an excellent question.

03:55:47.000 I can't really further detail things out other than the fact that we're headed for more and more economic crisis.

03:55:53.000 If we default on our debt, we are in major, major problem.

03:55:57.000 And that's already basically happening with the monetization.

03:56:00.000 They're just not doing it in one big bang.

03:56:03.000 They're slowly killing it.

03:56:06.000 But Geithner wanted to raise the debt ceiling.

03:56:08.000 Now Treasury is announcing that they are maybe going to keep it under.

03:56:14.000 Here's the headline.

03:56:15.000 Treasury to take steps to stay below debt ceiling.

03:56:17.000 That's what Standard & Poor's said.

03:56:19.000 They said it's the increased spending.

03:56:21.000 Raising the debt ceiling is why we have a Negative outlook on you keeping AAA, and then he came out two weeks ago and said that if we didn't raise it, that would cause the default.

03:56:31.000 But now they're shifting gears saying, okay, they may have to cut.

03:56:34.000 Are they starting to get some reality, Dr. Pachinnik?

03:56:37.000 No, not really.

03:56:38.000 What they're doing is playing with money.

03:56:40.000 Remember, every currency is denominated still in the dollar system.

03:56:45.000 And as long as the dollar system is there, the Federal Reserve will control it.

03:56:49.000 Bretton Woods, right after World War II in New Hampshire, a lot of smart men made sure that everything around the world was denominated in dollars.

03:56:56.000 Where we're going to have a major problem and crisis is that we will have an inflationary spiral that they cannot control.

03:57:04.000 And so that's why gold keeps going up out of fear.

03:57:07.000 Yeah, in and of itself, gold has no value other than the historical value, aesthetic value, whatever.

03:57:13.000 But the bottom line is economically, we're not in a position unless we keep manufacturing.

03:57:19.000 One of the great things about the state of Texas is that you really are very independent in many ways in terms of resources, manufacturing and oil.

03:57:26.000 We have enough oil in the United States to start drilling here.

03:57:30.000 Gas, oil, everywhere from Montana to down in Texas, Oklahoma.

03:57:34.000 But the cronies want to keep it shut down so they can make more money on their foreign investments and other form of artificial scarcity. 0.57

03:57:42.000 Dr. Pachinik, I want to put bookends on this.

03:57:45.000 Historic, now almost two hour interview.

03:57:49.000 We're going to go into super overdrive, commercial free after this one minute break.

03:57:53.000 Let's just do ten minutes together because I have to go do some media interviews.

03:57:57.000 Then I want to try to call you later today if you're available so we can have a private discussion about some future things to move to get the public to wake up to what's happening.

03:58:06.000 Just amazing information, but please let me twist your arm for ten more minutes on the other side so I can promise to get to Bill, Pat, Trevor, and a few others.

03:58:15.000 We'll be right back in super commercial free overdrive only at Infowars.com on the streams.

03:58:22.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

03:58:25.000 Visit GCNlive.com today.

03:58:31.000 America, you've been warned.

03:58:33.000 For weeks we've been warning you We believe will happen in the next 12 months that will shake the very foundations of our nation.

03:58:40.000 We've told you about the video that details this shocking prediction.

03:58:43.000 So far, over 6 million people have watched this free video online.

03:58:47.000 Have you?

03:58:47.000 Again, this big event has nothing to do with war or the stock market, yet it could change everything about your normal way of life, the way you shop, travel, invest, educate your children, and even how you take care of your health and your family.

03:58:59.000 Could this really happen?

03:59:00.000 Well, the man who created this video has been right about many predictions in his career.

03:59:03.000 He was among the first to predict the collapse of GM, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and America's biggest mall owner, General Growth Properties.

03:59:10.000 In fact, Barron's called his work a dire prophecy.

03:59:13.000 If you haven't taken time to watch this free video, do it right now.

03:59:16.000 You may never think about America the same way again.

03:59:18.000 You can find the free video at endofamerica3.com.

03:59:22.000 Again, that's www.endofamerica3.com.

03:59:25.000 Watch the free video at endofamerica3.com.

03:59:28.000 That's endofamerica3.com.

03:59:30.000 You're listening to GCN, the world leader in independent talk radio.

03:59:38.000 Go, go, go.

03:59:42.000 We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center and the heart of the resistance.

03:59:48.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

03:59:50.000 Well, we're now entering hour number five today, and we're entering hour number three.

04:00:03.000 Three in our interview with Dr. Steve Pachanek, stevepachanek.com.

04:00:11.000 I'm Alex Jones with Infowars.com, and I didn't give the number out at the end of the official radio broadcast.

04:00:17.000 We're now internet-only video at PrisonPlanet.tv.

04:00:21.000 uh... and of course we are also audio streams at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com will be back tomorrow live as well but uh... I did uh... privately give our number here at our studio uh... to some of the callers that were holding in the last hour so they can get involved on air uh... if a few others want to try to get lined up it's 877-789-2539 but we've only got time for a few calls here but Dr. Pachinik

04:00:49.000 You're letting it all hang out today and we've talked, you know, privately during the break.

04:00:55.000 Believe me, this is just the beginning.

04:00:57.000 There's a lot that's happened, it's compounded, but as you and I said, there is a very self-destructive element in these leaders that we've elected and that is, and Alex and I just talked about it in the private session, As people who are basically liars and contrivers and deceivers and deceptives, what happens is, like any bank robber, they eventually get to the point where John Dillinger was caught.

04:01:21.000 They want to get caught.

04:01:23.000 And they get a certain thrill out of the notion that the more crises they create and the more deceptions they create, that really is a turn-on for them.

04:01:31.000 And it allows them to exert the power and manipulation, deception that they're trained in.

04:01:36.000 They're not trained for honesty.

04:01:37.000 They're not trained to implement.

04:01:39.000 They're not trained to be direct.

04:01:41.000 They're not trained to accomplish or create assets.

04:01:43.000 They're trained to deceive, manipulate, and lie. 0.94

04:01:46.000 That's the nature of most politicians, because basically they're mendicants.

04:01:49.000 They're asking you up front, please vote for me.

04:01:52.000 Why?

04:01:53.000 Well, I'm a nice guy and I'll do whatever you want.

04:01:55.000 Well, if I give you the money, what are you then? 0.99

04:01:57.000 Well, I'm nothing more than a prostitute. 0.99

04:01:59.000 Well, that's basically what happens. 1.00

04:02:01.000 They're either panderers or they become prostitutes. 0.99

04:02:04.000 But you don't expect them to affect your life in a way where you're going to be submissive to them. 0.93

04:02:10.000 So when I said to Alex, and Alex agreed, and he said the point to me that through history, what happens to the mendicants who are elected and the sociopaths who come to power is eventually they self-destruct.

04:02:22.000 But the important thing in this self-destruction is that we do not go with them.

04:02:26.000 And under George Bush, we began the self-destruction of the United States, and unfortunately we're continuing that under Obama.

04:02:34.000 And that has to stop.

04:02:36.000 And that's why I came back onto the Alex Jones Show and said, listen, this is an honest man who's done an incredible job, Alex.

04:02:44.000 And basically, people who've listened, who are smart, who work hard in this country, and I've said it again, we are in a self-destructive spiral that began 20 years ago, decades ago, with liars, deceivers, And manipulators who have destroyed the integrity and viability of our country and have been reinforced by the laziness and incompetency of dysfunctional people both in the government and in Congress.

04:03:14.000 Do not think that they're any better or they will become braver or more effective.

04:03:18.000 Now the power has to come back to the United States of America. 0.56

04:03:22.000 To we, the people, where the individual is superior.

04:03:26.000 I'm not showing any courage.

04:03:27.000 I fought for this country and I've been in eight different combat situations where my life was at risk.

04:03:27.000 Let me be frank with you, Alex.

04:03:31.000 It's degenerating.

04:03:32.000 It's degenerating faster and faster.

04:03:34.000 We've got to get real or we're not going to be able to fix these problems.

04:03:37.000 But just my...

04:03:38.000 I'm not showing any courage.

04:03:40.000 Let me be frank with you, Alex.

04:03:42.000 I fought for this country and I've been in eight different combat situations where my life was at risk.

04:03:48.000 I don't have a problem affording myself the next opportunity to be on your show.

04:03:53.000 And if it takes the ninth time that they want to take me out, that's fine.

04:03:57.000 But the issue is I'm not any more courageous than an American who has to go to work, has to take two jobs, has to support his family, has to pay food prices that are 30% higher, Medicare that's unbelievably not reflective of the times where doctors have to be on call 24-7 or your father has to be a dental surgeon and has no backup and no guarantee that he will make a living.

04:04:22.000 This is not the American way. 0.96

04:04:24.000 All I'm trying to say to America, I'm not a hero.

04:04:27.000 I'm just another American who happened to have the opportunity to serve five presidents.

04:04:32.000 I left.

04:04:32.000 I didn't ask for No, I understand, but you're engaging in common sense and dealing with a problem.

04:04:39.000 That's all I am.

04:04:40.000 It doesn't matter what my degree is, but I am disgusted beyond belief to tell you this cannot continue. 1.00

04:04:48.000 The deception and lies of just another president with another Congress and another White House creating this nonsensical psychological operation, treating us as if we were children, stupid. 1.00

04:05:02.000 And the media, if they were stupid and children, and creating this ridiculous circus of nationalism, patriotism, when in fact they're cowardly, they're deceptive, they're ineffectual, and they're dysfunctional, that's not acceptable. 1.00

04:05:18.000 That's sick. 1.00

04:05:19.000 In closing, before we take two final calls, Doctor, and this has been amazing, before we go any further, just going back to the basic criminology, the psychology.

04:05:28.000 Doesn't take a rocket scientist for me to see the serial killers, they start getting wilder and wilder, wanting to be caught, or they send letters to the police taunting them.

04:05:39.000 And really, I think that's what this is with these ridiculous lies, where... Well, it's of course.

04:05:46.000 I mean, they want to be caught, but I will leave with two really comments I once said on your radio show, and I don't mean to be very arrogant about it.

04:05:53.000 I said the voice of the people is the voice of God.

04:05:57.000 Let us hear the voice of your people and the American people.

04:06:01.000 Let us say again, it's enough.

04:06:03.000 We don't want any more.

04:06:05.000 It's basically opus deus, vox populis, vox deus.

04:06:09.000 The voice of the people is the voice of God.

04:06:12.000 We fought a revolution against Britain.

04:06:14.000 Now let us fight a revolution against the tyranny of what we see as suppression, deception, crony capitalism.

04:06:22.000 It doesn't have to be violent.

04:06:24.000 It does have to be effective.

04:06:26.000 And I have no greater faith in the American people than I have in any other country.

04:06:31.000 Only in this country can I serve a president and also disagree with the president and remember that.

04:06:38.000 Well, beautifully said.

04:06:39.000 Beautifully said, but I see the sickness of the modern Nero's with their megalomania through the media pushing their false realities, infecting my fellow Americans.

04:06:51.000 They're trying to sell us on their delusional sickness.

04:06:53.000 It's like, I'm sure you saw this, Dr. The Karl Rove quote, To the New York Times reporter where they said, you're lying about WMDs.

04:07:01.000 You're setting up a police state.

04:07:02.000 And he said, you are what we call the reality-based community, trying to look for facts.

04:07:07.000 But we're an empire now.

04:07:08.000 We control reality, even if it isn't what we say it is.

04:07:11.000 And he was almost trying to break their will and just say, like O'Brien torturing Winston in 1984, I don't want you to say 2 plus 2 equals 5, I want you to Remember what Thomas Jefferson said very clearly.

04:07:36.000 Every generation must fight to have its own freedom.

04:07:40.000 If we do not do this now, we will never do it again.

04:07:44.000 Trust me.

04:07:44.000 Karl Rove is nothing but a secondhand sycophant.

04:07:48.000 He's a criminal. 1.00

04:07:49.000 He is a disgusting individual. 1.00

04:07:51.000 There's no reason why he should have come back. 1.00

04:07:53.000 He's one of those war crimes. 0.98

04:07:55.000 But that's not the issue.

04:07:56.000 The issue is for the American public to come out again and do what they do, whether it's Twitter, Internet, and talk among themselves.

04:08:04.000 Well, we're going to have you back.

04:08:05.000 We're going to have you back, Doctor, very soon to talk about your research in this.

04:08:11.000 You've been wonderful, and I thank you for the opportunity to express my idea.

04:08:15.000 You bet.

04:08:15.000 We're going to cram in two final calls and we're done.

04:08:18.000 Or three.

04:08:18.000 Bill in Connecticut.

04:08:19.000 Quickly, you're on the air with Dr. Pachanik.

04:08:21.000 Thank you.

04:08:22.000 Yes.

04:08:23.000 Wow.

04:08:23.000 What a show, Alex.

04:08:26.000 Dr. Pachanik, from two sources, from a gentleman by the name of John Perkins, who wrote a book, Confessions of an Economic Assassin, and Lindsey Williams, both were on the Alex Jones Show, had indicated that back in the early 70s, Kissinger went over to the Saudis and made a deal whereby we would buy their oil if they bought our debt.

04:08:52.000 And with the interest on that debt, we would build their infrastructure and their oil refineries.

04:09:01.000 Flash forward to the present, now we're in a position whereby, supposedly, the elites want to implode and devalue the dollar.

04:09:12.000 uh... in order to bring out bring up either a one world currency or the amero starting with that uh... and i'd like your take on that and then the follow-up question is on the banks what can we do to prosecute these criminals and bring them out?

04:09:27.000 We're almost out of time, great question.

04:09:29.000 The banks is the most important one.

04:09:31.000 That has to be demanded that the criminals be prosecuted.

04:09:34.000 There's no question about it.

04:09:35.000 And then you withdraw money from the banks.

04:09:37.000 They're the major ones.

04:09:38.000 Bank of America, Citibank, You kept JPMorgan.

04:09:42.000 The issue of Kissinger, I don't approve of him.

04:09:45.000 I didn't work directly for him.

04:09:46.000 I worked for Eagleburger, but you're correct in what he said.

04:09:49.000 In terms of the money, I go back to the Bretton Woods Conference in the late 40s, right after the war, where all the currencies were denominated in the dollar.

04:09:57.000 It will be very, very hard.

04:09:59.000 It costs trillions of dollars to break that currency and to create another currency.

04:10:04.000 But one will not be possible.

04:10:06.000 The Russians tried it. 0.69

04:10:07.000 The Arabs tried it. 0.96

04:10:09.000 It's not going to work.

04:10:10.000 Everything's denominated in the dollar.

04:10:11.000 No matter how you look at it, as long as the dollar is there, it will be controlled by the Federal Reserve.

04:10:17.000 It will be a currency to remain there for several years.

04:10:20.000 The reason the dollar's going down now, quite frankly, is really because we're in an economic war, which is an effective war against, right now, China, because we want to export our products.

04:10:30.000 And we're doing quite well at that.

04:10:32.000 But the real reason is, it's very hard to get a one.

04:10:35.000 One state or one currency element other than the dollar.

04:10:38.000 It's just very difficult.

04:10:39.000 Alright, final caller.

04:10:40.000 This is amazing.

04:10:42.000 Trevor in Nevada.

04:10:43.000 You're on the air.

04:10:43.000 Go ahead.

04:10:44.000 Hi, yeah.

04:10:46.000 I just had a question.

04:10:47.000 Well, first of all, good show, great show.

04:10:50.000 I just had a question.

04:10:50.000 If they're not able, if they're not producing a body, then is that going to expand into like the courts now that they don't have to produce any body or anything to convict anybody or any DNA evidence?

04:11:05.000 I really don't know that.

04:11:06.000 I mean, when you have a lie and you distort the lie and you make it into a circus, I don't know who's attending the circus and who's going to prosecute it, but honestly, with all due respect, You know, this is such a travesty of reality that I don't even know how they're going to do anything and why they should do it.

04:11:22.000 Well, Dr. Pachinicka, then we'll get another question from Trevor.

04:11:24.000 Hold on a second, Trevor, because I want to get this in now before I forget.

04:11:26.000 How about every news channel?

04:11:28.000 This proves torture is good.

04:11:30.000 Torture is wonderful.

04:11:31.000 This proves extrajudicial killing is good. 0.99

04:11:34.000 This proves rendition is good.

04:11:35.000 This proves it.

04:11:36.000 I mean, it's like saying it proves the moon is made out of cheese.

04:11:40.000 It's just sick.

04:11:43.000 First of all, rendition created by Clinton was a disaster, and it was unconstitutional.

04:11:48.000 Torture does not work.

04:11:50.000 If you have to do torture, it's disgusting, it's unethical, it really doesn't work.

04:11:54.000 I've never had to use it, and I've had more than enough terrorists reveal what I needed to have without any torture.

04:12:00.000 Thirdly, this is beyond the pale.

04:12:03.000 Again, you have distortion, denial, deception, and the denigration of the American public and its intelligence.

04:12:10.000 Alright Trevor, your final point and then we're going to end it.

04:12:13.000 The final point is we've had enough.

04:12:15.000 Let's ask for a new way of government, a new government, new people to run it.

04:12:19.000 Trevor, you had one more point.

04:12:21.000 Yeah, I was just going to say, you know, when I first heard it, it was a mass hysteria and I told my girlfriend the exact same thing.

04:12:30.000 This is just going to justify war and torture and more war and more torture.

04:12:34.000 And I'm already seeing it on Twitter and Facebook with people saying, if it wasn't for information from Guantanamo Bay, none of this would have happened, or rah, rah, rah, I don't know.

04:12:43.000 That's all I have to say.

04:12:44.000 Thank you for the opportunity.

04:12:45.000 The information, Guantanamo, wasn't effective.

04:12:47.000 A lot of them shouldn't be there.

04:12:48.000 A lot of them were not even criminals.

04:12:50.000 The whole thing is a farce.

04:12:52.000 This war against terrorism is a total farce because it starts with a farce of 9-11.

04:12:57.000 It starts with a body that never existed, Osama bin Laden.

04:13:01.000 So you have one endless perception.

04:13:02.000 So let's get back to the real issue.

04:13:05.000 We need new people, new America, which stands up for itself, and a new government without any of this nonsense.

04:13:11.000 That's right.

04:13:13.000 We've had enough.

04:13:13.000 The system's trying to give us their collective insanity so we can live in la-la land with them.

04:13:19.000 It's time to break the spell, break the trance.

04:13:21.000 Dr. Pachinik, I'll say bye to you here at the end off-air.

04:13:24.000 Thank you.

04:13:25.000 Thank you so much.

04:13:26.000 God bless you.

04:13:27.000 Steve Pachinick dot com.

04:13:28.000 Amazing.

04:13:29.000 Folks, get this interview out to everybody.

04:13:31.000 We go into retransmission right now.

04:13:33.000 Great job, crew.

04:13:34.000 See you back tomorrow, 11 a.m.

Alex Jones Show - May 03, 2011

20110503_Tue_Alex

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript