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00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:25.000 It's May 5th, 2011.

00:00:27.000 It's the Alex Jones Show live.

00:00:29.000 I'm your host, Paul Joseph Watson, editor and writer for PrisonPlanet.com, filling in for Alex today.

00:00:36.000 And we've got two huge guests coming up over the course of the next 90 minutes to discuss this unraveling Osama Bin Laden fable, both of whom held highly influential positions within the US government and both of whom have vocally savaged this Bin Laden narrative that has been put out by the White House for the fairytale that it is.

00:01:03.000 The guests are former Assistant Treasury Secretary under Reagan, Paul Craig Roberts, and of course, the third installment of our interview with Steve R. Pachenik, who worked as a top spymaster in no less than five US administrations.

00:01:22.000 Cannot be called a black helicopter conspiracy fantasist, as the Time Magazine article yesterday would have it, of course.

00:01:30.000 They're afraid to address any of the issues that Pchenik has raised over the course of the last two days on the Alex Jones Show.

00:01:39.000 We've got InfoWars video guru Rob Jacobson coming up live reporting from Ground Zero later on in this, actually in the next segment, as Obama gets ready to pull off his contrived photo op, mimicking how George W. Bush stood on the rubble of the Twin Towers shortly after 9-11.

00:02:00.000 And what amounts to basically a desperate PR stunt to contrive a political turnaround for his ailing aspirations to get a second term in the Oval Office.

00:02:13.000 Second half of the show will be hosted by Steve Watson and Aaron Dykes and then Alex Jones himself will be calling in from the road to give his take on the unfolding, collapsing, crumbling Bin Laden fable.

00:02:28.000 And the Bin Laden hoax really is collapsing now, whether you believe he was killed recently or, you know, he was killed nine years ago, as Pchenik has asserted.

00:02:38.000 The fact is that this whole narrative they've manufactured around the alleged raid and assassination of Bin Laden at his compound there in Pakistan, It's totally crumbling to the ground.

00:02:51.000 It's beginning to resemble more and more a Jerry Bruckheimer-style Jessica Lynch fable.

00:02:59.000 We had the photo of Obama giving the address to the nation on Sunday night, which appeared the next morning in US newspapers.

00:03:07.000 Completely staged after the event.

00:03:10.000 That has now been admitted.

00:03:11.000 That's on the record.

00:03:12.000 But more importantly, the photos released just a couple of days ago by the White House, the so-called Situation Room photos that people have said depict the, quote, defining moment of Obama's presidency.

00:03:26.000 And these were the photos that the mainstream media reported illustrated Obama, Hillary Clinton and their White House security team Grimacing their faces with these stern looks, watching the raid on the Bin Laden compound and watching his assassination unfold live on the big screen in front of them.

00:03:48.000 And we've got a photo of those pictures that the White House released that we're showing now.

00:03:54.000 And you had this shot of a shocked Hillary Clinton, a hand anxiously over her mouth as if reacting to, you know, some crucial event.

00:04:04.000 You had the news telling us that this depicted the moment when, quote, the leader of the free world saw the terror chief shot in the left eye.

00:04:14.000 That's what they actually told us.

00:04:16.000 Uh, we were told that this photograph depicted Obama, Clinton and Biden, quote, watching intently as the raid takes place.

00:04:25.000 And you had the White House counter-terrorist czar, John Brennan, come out and say that, uh, this was evidence of the fact that...

00:04:32.000 Obama and Clinton were provided with quote, ongoing coverage of the raid as it unfolded.

00:04:39.000 And so this was told to us as a dramatic part of the Bin Laden narrative and of course it turns out to be a complete hoax, a completely staged fable. 0.61

00:04:48.000 And we'll be back after the break to detail how this whole Bin Laden fraud is collapsing at warp speed. 0.98

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00:07:56.000 Big Brother. Mainstream media.

00:08:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:10.000 You want answers?

00:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:24.000 We're back on the Alex Jones Show this May 5th, 2011.

00:08:28.000 I'm Paul Joseph Watson.

00:08:29.000 Paul Craig Roberts coming up at the bottom of the hour and shortly we'll be joined by Rob Jacobson, InfoWars video guru.

00:08:37.000 Live from Ground Zero, New York as Obama prepares to descend for his staged photo op.

00:08:44.000 And speaking of photo ops, we had the dramatic release of these Situation Room images by the White House a couple of days ago.

00:08:53.000 Which the media told us depicted Obama and his staff, including Hillary Clinton, reacting live as the assassination of Bin Laden unfolded on the big screen in front of them.

00:09:04.000 They said that these Navy SEALs had cameras attached to their helmets and that Obama was able to watch the whole episode go down live.

00:09:14.000 It actually turns out that there was no moment at all when Obama saw Bin Laden assassinated, supposedly shot in the head, because according to Leon Panetta, the CIA director, the video feed on these cameras was completely cut off before the Navy SEALs even entered the building.

00:09:37.000 So for all the stern faces and shocked expressions that the media told us were going on in these photos as a result of Clinton and Obama witnessing the raid live, they actually saw nothing whatsoever.

00:09:53.000 They didn't find out what had happened until it was all over.

00:09:57.000 And these photos were basically staged in a PR stunt for public consumption, just as the rescue, rescue, in quotations, of Jessica Lynch and the death of Pat Tillman were also manufactured for public consumption.

00:10:13.000 Fables to generate this contrived jingoism, this phony pro-war sentiment that Obama is now desperately trying to capitalize on in an effort to rebrand himself as this tough, respected leader.

00:10:30.000 You know, all the Republicans are now clicking their heels because Obama was tough, he got the job done.

00:10:37.000 He got the job done in basically lying to the American people in front of tens of millions of viewers.

00:10:43.000 On Sunday night, Obama said that the assassination of Bin Laden followed a, quote, 40-minute shootout.

00:10:53.000 Now, bear in mind, Obama never saw this took place because the live feed from the cameras had been cut.

00:11:01.000 And now after the fact it's been admitted that there was no shootout.

00:11:05.000 There was one individual in the whole compound that was armed and he wasn't even in the house.

00:11:10.000 He was at a house across the street.

00:11:12.000 We had these lurid tales about Bin Laden throwing his wife in front of himself as a human shield.

00:11:19.000 Complete fallacy.

00:11:21.000 Made up, contrived.

00:11:23.000 We had The tales of Bin Laden resisting, defending himself, firing back.

00:11:29.000 Again, completely made up, contrived.

00:11:31.000 He wasn't armed.

00:11:34.000 And you would think, you know, with all this Gracious applauding of torture, how it supposedly led them to find Bin Laden.

00:11:44.000 That turns out to be completely untrue as well.

00:11:48.000 They would have wanted to keep alive the number one intelligence asset in the world, Osama Bin Laden. 0.88

00:11:53.000 He wasn't armed.

00:11:55.000 At first, they allegedly took him alive.

00:11:58.000 But then they put a bullet through his head.

00:12:00.000 Now, if you think that torture is so good at eliciting vital information, would you want to keep Osama Bin Laden alive or would you want to get rid of him straight away? 0.71

00:12:11.000 So basically Obama lied.

00:12:13.000 He said there was a 40-minute shootout.

00:12:15.000 He went on national television in his public address on Sunday night and he completely lied.

00:12:21.000 A totally impeachable offence.

00:12:24.000 Because it was basically a slaughter in cold blood.

00:12:27.000 There was no firefight.

00:12:28.000 There was no live feed to Obama and Clinton, as these staged photos suggested there was.

00:12:36.000 As the media told us that Obama saw the moment when Bin Laden was shot in his head above the left eye.

00:12:43.000 Completely made up, contrived fable.

00:12:46.000 Obama, Clinton saw none of it.

00:12:49.000 But they put out these staged photos of them looking shocked.

00:12:53.000 As the event unfolded, supposedly live, and of course Hillary Clinton has come out today after it all was revealed and said, oh I just had allergies, I just had my hand over my mouth.

00:13:05.000 And this is already after they've claimed that it was the moments when the raid was happening, even though they didn't see it happen, which is now being admitted.

00:13:15.000 So, lie upon lie, and nothing about the fairy tale adds up.

00:13:20.000 And even some quarters of the mainstream media are now having to admit that fact.

00:13:25.000 The White House Press Secretary, Carney, is being lambasted, left, right and centre, as a failure, as a flounderer.

00:13:34.000 Because he keeps tripping over his own words, his own lies, during the press briefings.

00:13:40.000 Because they're having trouble keeping this whole narrative in order.

00:13:46.000 You know, tell the truth and you never have to remember anything.

00:13:50.000 But this Carney guy is so overwhelmed by the fact that the White House keeps flip-flopping and changing the narrative that even he can't keep up.

00:14:01.000 But don't worry about all that, because according to Time Magazine and the majority of the establishment media, anyone who points out these blaring discrepancies, these inconsistencies with the official narrative, is merely a conspiracy theorist engaging in, quote, black helicopter fantasies.

00:14:20.000 That's what the Time Magazine writer said yesterday about Alex Jones and all the information that we've presented this week.

00:14:29.000 So, presumably, that would include the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, who has come out herself and questioned these discrepancies.

00:14:39.000 Presumably, that would include the man who all this week on the Alex Jones Show, and the man who's coming up as a guest in the next hour, Steve Pchenik, who has blown the lid off the entire Bin Laden fraud, the fact that he died in 2001. 0.57

00:14:57.000 Is he another black helicopter fantasist, Time Magazine?

00:15:01.000 He served under five US presidents, top spy master.

00:15:05.000 He wrote the book for the State Department on psychological warfare and counter-terrorism.

00:15:11.000 He's publicly saying that Bin Laden died in 2001.

00:15:16.000 Two days ago on the Alex Jones Show, he said that these Situation Room photos were completely staged, a fairy tale.

00:15:25.000 He's proven completely right again.

00:15:27.000 He's vindicated.

00:15:28.000 Is he a conspiracy theorist, a black helicopter fantasist?

00:15:32.000 Time, Magazine and the rest of the establishment media.

00:15:38.000 You know, they've also created this, uh... 0.69

00:15:41.000 This framing of the debate where anyone who questions the official narrative, which is collapsing left, right and centre because they can't keep it straight, is either a wacko, paranoid nutjob or is some Taliban goat herder that claims Bin Laden's still alive.

00:16:01.000 So, they're framing the debate around that, and then whenever you ask any questions about the whole narrative, even as it collapses, then you're ring-fenced under that label.

00:16:11.000 It's psychological warfare.

00:16:13.000 But the whole stack of cards surrounding this Bin Laden fable is collapsing at warp speed, and Obama's nine point bounce that he's enjoyed so far is already starting to evaporate which is why today he's heading down to ground zero to try and reinvigorate This whole jingoistic attitude from the American people. 0.60

00:16:35.000 And it's so transparent that they're exploiting this monumental fraud to try and manufacture this post 9-11 kind of intellectual castration of the American people.

00:16:48.000 Because Obama comes out Sunday night and says that killing Bin Laden means America is now safer, that the world is safer from terrorists.

00:16:57.000 And yet what happens?

00:16:58.000 Almost instantly, they start fear-mongering about nuclear holocausts from the admissions of the tortured Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who's been waterboarded for the last five years, who will admit to being, you know, the Grinch who stole Christmas, the Tooth Fairy and whatever else after they've tortured him for that amount of time. 0.55

00:17:20.000 And now they're talking about raising the terror threat to a new level, to a higher level.

00:17:24.000 You've got calls for the TSA to be put in shopping malls, putting their hands down your kids' pants. 0.97

00:17:31.000 You've got more grope downs, you've got more bag searches, and you've got more goons walking around with machine guns.

00:17:39.000 But Obama told us that the world was safer after the death of Osama bin Laden, and yet their reaction suggests that It's only going to become more unsafe because, of course, they're the real terrorists launching this psychological warfare operation against us.

00:17:56.000 But it's all because the terrorists hate our freedom, which is why that local TSA child molester needs to get his hands on your children.

00:18:04.000 CBS News reporting yesterday calls for TSA in shopping malls.

00:18:11.000 And you can tell that it's contrived by their own reaction.

00:18:16.000 It's a weird serial killer kind of reaction where they're going back to the scene of the crime and they're trying to exploit it for all it's worth.

00:18:24.000 Because now with completely unrelated matters, they're hastily trying to spend Obama's political capital to destroy more of our freedoms.

00:18:33.000 Bill Richardson comes out and says that killing Bin Laden means that Obama can now push through the cap and tax system.

00:18:42.000 Try and work that one out.

00:18:45.000 We've got a new story today out the hill with Obama pushing ahead with a plan to put satellite tracker boxes in your cars to track you by the mile.

00:18:56.000 Mandatory.

00:18:57.000 Again, nothing to do with Bin Laden, but it's about Obama spending this political capital, this contrived political capital, on a whole raft of different agendas that he's been waiting to push through.

00:19:11.000 And if you think that a government that staged an event that started the Vietnam War, the Gulf of Tonkin, complete fabrication, never happened, historical fact, if you think that they're not capable of staging a raid on a building in Pakistan, then you've got another thing coming.

00:19:32.000 And the whole thing overriding it, which we'll talk about with Steve Pchenik, is the fact that according to every intelligence professional worth their salt, Bin Laden's been dead since 2001.

00:19:44.000 The fable, the fairytale nature of this fraud knows no bounds.

00:19:49.000 We'll be back after the break with Rob Jacobson, live from Ground Zero.

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00:24:25.000 We're live on the Alex Jones Show, May the 5th, 2011, and we've got Rob Jacobson, InfoWars Video Guru, Live on the line from Ground Zero as Barack Obama prepares to descend on the scene for his staged photo-op, trying to get as much political capital out of this Bin Laden fraud as politically possible. 0.55

00:24:49.000 Rob, we've been bombarded with this fear-mongering about these imminent terror attacks and these calls to put the TSA in shopping malls.

00:24:57.000 How has that hype manifested itself in New York as a police state being on Well, Paul, I'm over here at Ground Zero and it's the usual display of plenty of police.

00:25:14.000 It's the first time I've seen police dogs on the street here in Manhattan.

00:25:18.000 And there are police dogs guarding subway stations, but it's the usual group of police mixed with Secret Service types floating up and down the street.

00:25:31.000 And, uh, the usual high level of security around Ground Zero, uh, eminent to one of these events.

00:25:38.000 I got a, uh, group of police officers just, uh, marching right in front of me in some kind of two-by-two formation.

00:25:47.000 And, um, it's basically, uh, exactly what, uh, you just described.

00:25:52.000 Uh, everybody seems to be, it doesn't seem that the sentiment is that people are both not as much excited, but also I'm scared of what may be next and it's a heightened sense of paranoia here in New York City.

00:26:08.000 So I'm wondering what kind of crowd is down there at the moment?

00:26:11.000 We saw the celebrations on the White House lawn by these college zombies in the aftermath of this Bin Laden announcement. 0.98

00:26:21.000 Is it a more quiet affair or are there political banners or any signs of that nature?

00:26:29.000 I'm seeing a few political banners, but no hysteria like we've seen on the evening that Obama made the announcement.

00:26:37.000 It's mostly people waiting to see the president.

00:26:41.000 Usual crowd held back by the police line.

00:26:44.000 I did see one sign basically saying that some woman's children are proud to be raised in a country where they love their president.

00:26:59.000 That kind of thing.

00:27:00.000 But not too many political signs.

00:27:01.000 A couple of American flags.

00:27:04.000 Not like we've seen on the evening of the announcement.

00:27:09.000 Yeah, love of president as opposed to love of country.

00:27:11.000 They think that's patriotism.

00:27:13.000 I was hearing you were kicked out of the press area.

00:27:16.000 Is that true?

00:27:18.000 That's true.

00:27:19.000 I was in the press area.

00:27:21.000 I was waiting on line to actually go into the pit itself.

00:27:25.000 They told me since we didn't contact the White House, Days and days before, I am not qualified to cover the president or take pictures of him in any way.

00:27:36.000 I explained to him I'm here with a nationally syndicated radio show and I was prepared to have our producer get on the line with whoever needed to speak with him to prove that, you know, we truly are press.

00:27:49.000 We are probably larger than most of the national labels I've seen waiting online.

00:27:58.000 And they simply said, since we're not on the White House's list, we can't enter.

00:28:03.000 Not only myself, but other news agencies were denied as well.

00:28:09.000 I know senators, staff were denied access to inside unless you were on the White House pre-approved list.

00:28:18.000 Well, obviously, I mean, Obama can't give a town hall speech without every single guest going through this approval process.

00:28:26.000 And it's like the media equivalent of the free speech zones.

00:28:29.000 You have to ask the government permission to engage in your First Amendment right, not only to protest, but merely to cover a public Media event is ridiculous and it's a sign of what's happened after 9-11.

00:28:43.000 Of course the terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedom and then governments, consecutive governments, proceeded to take those freedoms away.

00:28:53.000 I'm wondering, you've obviously traveled to New York on numerous occasions over the past few years.

00:29:00.000 As somebody who visits often, what kind of statement does it make that 10 years nearly after 9-11, Ground Zero is still virtually a building site?

00:29:10.000 Um, it shows that, um, you know, the statement is, is that either, everybody seems, the sentiment around the people is that everybody's a little disappointed that nothing is going on.

00:29:23.000 I see a couple of construction sites here.

00:29:26.000 The Liberty Tower is about 63 stories.

00:29:28.000 There's another building going up, still under construction.

00:29:31.000 This is all going on about 10 years after the actual incident.

00:29:36.000 You'd think this would have been going on You know, a couple of years after, after some planning and whatnot, but... Okay, thanks, Rob.

00:29:44.000 We're heading to the break now.

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00:33:28.000 We're back live, it's the Alex Jones Show, May 5th, 2011.

00:33:33.000 Coming up at the top of the hour, Steve R. Pchenik, top spy masterworks under five different US presidents to talk about the Bin Laden fable.

00:33:43.000 Now we have President Barack Obama mimicking George W. Bush.

00:33:49.000 He's descended on ground zero and Obama, according to the Associated Press, is now basically repeating exact similar phrases that George Bush used as he stood on the rubble in those days after 9-11 as Obama desperately attempts to seize on the political capital that this Bin Laden raid has afforded him.

00:34:11.000 But I'm delighted to say We've been joined by Paul Craig Roberts, who many of you will know of course was the father of Reaganomics, served as Assistant Treasury Secretary under Ronald Reagan, former editor of the Wall Street Journal, and of course Mr. Roberts is a prolific author and writer whose articles we eagerly await.

00:34:35.000 We've posted his latest article on PrisonPlanet.com this morning.

00:34:40.000 Mr. Roberts, great to have you on the show today.

00:34:43.000 Thank you, Paul.

00:34:45.000 Good to speak to you.

00:34:46.000 Before you get started with me, I was fascinated by the piece yesterday.

00:34:53.000 Your report, I think it was, on Steve Pichenik.

00:34:57.000 Did I pronounce that right?

00:34:59.000 Steve Pichenik, yeah.

00:35:00.000 Yeah.

00:35:02.000 I thought this was amazing.

00:35:04.000 Not so much the Bin Laden part, because I think that's been known for some time, but His statement that he had been told by a general from, I think, Wolfowitz staff that 9-11 was an inside job and that he was willing himself, Steve Pagenik, to testify on the oath before Congress and reveal the guy's name.

00:35:28.000 Now this is an astonishing development.

00:35:32.000 This is for real, I take it.

00:35:33.000 I take it you've got this on tape or video or something.

00:35:38.000 It was said live during Mr. Pchenik's interview with Alex Jones on Tuesday, and that's right.

00:35:45.000 And it's an astounding admission which has been completely ignored by the mainstream media.

00:35:50.000 They dare not even try and debunk it.

00:35:53.000 You know, I'm not... His credentials are substantial.

00:36:00.000 But what puzzles me about it is, I mean, that kind of marks him for a dead man, doesn't it? 0.83

00:36:07.000 They're either going to ignore him or they're going to kill him.

00:36:09.000 I mean, as well-connected as he's been in government, it seems to me he would know that if he says something like that, he's going to have an accident before anybody takes him up on the offer.

00:36:20.000 I mean, that strikes me as reckless, almost.

00:36:28.000 I've been really puzzled about why he would say that.

00:36:33.000 I mean, I can understand revealing it.

00:36:36.000 Uh, but not, you know, not forecasting that he was gonna reveal it.

00:36:42.000 That's one thing they won't let be revealed.

00:36:45.000 They're not gonna let that happen.

00:36:47.000 Exactly, I mean Alex asked him about that.

00:36:50.000 Alex was trying to get him on air to say, you know, I'm not suicidal like the DC madam and obviously we know what happened to her.

00:36:57.000 But Pchenik basically said, you know, I'm a professional, I've got dirt on them and he was basically not afraid of that.

00:37:05.000 But he's actually coming up as a guest at the top of the hour and that's something I can press him further on in the next hour of the show.

00:37:15.000 My question...

00:37:16.000 My question for you, Mr Roberts, is you wrote on Monday that the whole Bin Laden thing had, quote, the odour of a staged event.

00:37:25.000 Now you've been justified in that assessment with these Situation Room photos that the media told us were an account of Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the live assassination of Bin Laden unfold.

00:37:39.000 That has now been documented to be completely fraudulent.

00:37:42.000 The live video stream was cut off.

00:37:44.000 They saw nothing of the raid.

00:37:47.000 You've wrote this other article today which is excellent.

00:37:51.000 What do you think are the most alarming discrepancies in this whole Bin Laden narrative that we've been sold on by the White House and the media?

00:38:00.000 Well, you know, Paul, the thing was never believable in the beginning because the original story of a firefight With the heroic SEALs taking on Al-Qaeda, which Rumsfeld described as the most highly trained, the most dangerous, most vicious killers on the planet.

00:38:27.000 And so they get, the SEALs get into a firefight with these vicious, highly trained killers and they don't get a scratch.

00:38:35.000 So that already tells you something stinks.

00:38:39.000 Because you, anybody can hear a helicopter coming.

00:38:42.000 You know, even, even people who are asleep.

00:38:45.000 So, then, before 48 hours passed, the whole story changes fundamentally.

00:38:55.000 There's no firefight.

00:38:58.000 Bin Laden's not a coward after all, hiding behind a woman. 0.53

00:39:01.000 He's not even armed, says the White House press spokesman.

00:39:06.000 The direct quote, he wasn't armed.

00:39:09.000 And so, all of a sudden, we go from heroes in a firefight to cold-blooded murderers.

00:39:17.000 And even worse, even if you believe the government story, you have to see it as the most botched operation in history.

00:39:26.000 So why in the world would you kill the mastermind who has all the secrets of terrorism when he's unarmed, harmless, and surrounded? 0.51

00:39:38.000 That's the last thing you would do is to kill him.

00:39:42.000 And so that part of the story is not so much a discrepancy that's important.

00:39:49.000 It's the story itself.

00:39:52.000 It makes no sense.

00:39:55.000 And the reason they had to say that is they didn't capture him.

00:39:59.000 They didn't kill him.

00:40:00.000 He wasn't there.

00:40:01.000 He was already dead.

00:40:02.000 This is a staged event for a bunch of hidden agendas, not merely For Obama's popularity and poll ratings and re-election campaign, that's no doubt part of it.

00:40:14.000 But there are other agendas that this event is being used for.

00:40:19.000 For example, the justification of torture is one.

00:40:24.000 Probably starting more trouble with Pakistan is another. 1.00

00:40:28.000 More powers for homeland security is another.

00:40:31.000 Probably more false flag attacks that they will say is due to al-Qaeda retaliation for killing bin Laden.

00:40:40.000 There are all kinds of agendas that are hiding behind this false story.

00:40:48.000 So, the dead giveaway is that If you actually did catch this guy, you wouldn't quickly throw the evidence of your success into the ocean.

00:41:03.000 The minute you do that, the whole story becomes suspect, because there's no real explanation for why they dumped the body in the ocean.

00:41:12.000 The story they give is obviously a fabrication, and it's incorrect.

00:41:17.000 Uh, that they were giving him a quick burial in keeping with Muslim practices. 0.93

00:41:22.000 This has been challenged by the Muslim demons. 1.00

00:41:25.000 They say that you're supposed to be buried in the ground with your head pointed toward Mecca, and that the only excuse for dumping somebody at sea is if it's a very long voyage and the body is decomposing. 0.57

00:41:38.000 And so every aspect of the story is phony.

00:41:42.000 There's nothing true about any of it.

00:41:47.000 Other great puzzle, Paul, is why did they change the story?

00:41:52.000 If you're going to pull off something like this, you've got to know what the story is and stick with it.

00:41:57.000 And yet, before 48 hours passes, the whole story has changed fundamentally.

00:42:03.000 Why?

00:42:04.000 What was the pressure to change the story?

00:42:08.000 They didn't have to worry about Pakistan ratting on them. 0.85

00:42:11.000 Pakistan is enough of an American puppet that if it was ordered Shut up? 0.99

00:42:18.000 It would shut up. 0.98

00:42:20.000 I mean, Pakistan lets the United States conduct illegal military actions on its territory, killing its citizens.

00:42:29.000 Pakistan lets the United States Army send the Pakistani Army into tribal areas, into entire provinces, displacing entire populations of people.

00:42:40.000 If Washington tells Pakistan, hey, we're going to stage this thing and we want your help and you better not say anything about it, they're going to cooperate.

00:42:48.000 So, the real question is, why did the story change?

00:42:52.000 What's going on?

00:42:58.000 Are people in the government now, I'm just speculating, I don't have any idea, are people in the government now seeing they don't want Obama, some of them don't want Obama again, and they see that he's managed to do this to boost his Poll ratings by 24% and so now they're going to undermine it because they want to get rid of him or they rather have a different puppet or something.

00:43:20.000 There's all kinds of things going on that we don't know about and that might explain why the administration, the government, is destroying its own story.

00:43:33.000 It's not being destroyed by news people.

00:43:36.000 The news people are still celebrating the victory over bin Laden.

00:43:43.000 And the news people have given the imprimatur to extra-legal murder of unarmed people.

00:43:53.000 So it's not the news media who's exposed, it's the government itself that keeps changing the story.

00:44:00.000 And where's the pressure coming from to change the story?

00:44:03.000 I mean, why create such massive credibility problems Well, the government's own story.

00:44:14.000 So maybe all the people inside the government are fighting each other over who they want to run the next time.

00:44:22.000 I don't know what's going on, but that's the biggest puzzle to me.

00:44:26.000 Maybe somebody on your desk, maybe Steve today, can throw some light on that.

00:44:34.000 That is the most interesting question.

00:44:36.000 So the two real questions, and then I'll be finished here.

00:44:42.000 One is, what are the real agendas that this news event is designed to further?

00:44:50.000 And two, why did the government wreck its own story by changing it before 48 hours are over, without any obvious sources of pressure on them to change the story?

00:45:09.000 It's amazing.

00:45:09.000 The Kennedy story.

00:45:10.000 The Kennedy was killed by Oswald, period.

00:45:13.000 And we've had that story now for, what, 40, 50 years or something.

00:45:16.000 They don't change it.

00:45:18.000 Why did they change this story?

00:45:19.000 They haven't changed the 9-11 story.

00:45:24.000 I mean, you've got the press secretary, Carney, who's now being lambasted by all sides of the media as this flounderer, this failure, because he's having difficulty getting the fable straight.

00:45:24.000 Well, exactly.

00:45:37.000 He keeps tripping over his words.

00:45:38.000 He keeps giving contradictory explanations.

00:45:41.000 And like you said, it's baffling.

00:45:43.000 It's almost as if it's deliberately designed to look hokey.

00:45:48.000 I mean, you've got neighbours surrounding this so-called compound.

00:45:51.000 They say they'd never saw Bin Laden.

00:45:53.000 It's a stone's throw away from a Pakistani military base.

00:45:57.000 All the residents have to have ID cards.

00:46:00.000 They have to go through checkpoints to get anywhere.

00:46:03.000 And the only photos that have been released are of these victims.

00:46:07.000 Of course, none of them have been Laden. 0.98

00:46:09.000 It's increasingly starting to look like he wasn't... I mean...

00:46:13.000 We know that every intelligence professional worth their salt said that he's been dead for nine years.

00:46:18.000 It's starting to look as if perhaps some members of the Bin Laden family were there and that's what they used as the reason to go in. 0.92

00:46:28.000 But I mean, it's like in your article today, you quote this email that you received from a reader who asks, you know, why the government's so sloppy in its lies that it virtually makes no effort to make them appear credible.

00:46:41.000 I mean, Why are they so arrogant in their total disregard for the intellect of the American people?

00:46:48.000 I think the answer to that, Paul, is they got away with 9-11.

00:46:51.000 They blew up two skyscrapers in plain view of everybody, in plain view of their TV cameras.

00:46:57.000 We've got recordings all over the world of these buildings being blown up.

00:47:01.000 Anybody that looks at those buildings can see they're being blown up.

00:47:04.000 They're not falling down.

00:47:06.000 These are not buildings falling down from structural damage from an airliner or fire.

00:47:11.000 These buildings are blowing up.

00:47:12.000 You can see they're blowing up.

00:47:14.000 If they get away with that, if they can get away with the fable that a few Saudis with box cutters can outwit all 16 American intelligence agencies, all the intelligence agencies of NATO, of Israel even, can outwit NORAD, air traffic control, airport security four times in one morning, Can cause the state-of-the-art Pentagon air defenses to fail. 1.00

00:47:39.000 Anybody can pull off this superhero stuff.

00:47:42.000 How could anybody believe that?

00:47:44.000 You can't.

00:47:45.000 I mean, did you see the film V for Vendetta?

00:47:48.000 Where the superhero blows up the British Parliament?

00:47:51.000 Well, hell, the 9-11 attack makes that look like nothing.

00:47:57.000 And yet people fall for these things.

00:47:59.000 I mean, so I guess that's the reason the government It just shows it doesn't make any effort to even make a credible lie.

00:48:09.000 It just knows that it can use the Patriot card and 80% of the people will fall for it.

00:48:16.000 The patriotism will.

00:48:18.000 And they'll be, oh, we got him.

00:48:19.000 We got the towelhead. 1.00

00:48:21.000 So that's what they rely on, I think.

00:48:23.000 They don't think anybody is going to think about it.

00:48:27.000 People are just going to celebrate.

00:48:32.000 If you start thinking about it, you have to give up celebrating, and they'd rather celebrate than be suspicious of their government.

00:48:38.000 That's probably the answer.

00:48:41.000 I thought that reader that you quoted made a very good point, raised the central question.

00:48:48.000 That's why I put it in my article today.

00:48:50.000 But I think that's the answer, Paul.

00:48:54.000 They know, look, they've always got away with everything.

00:48:59.000 Remember the Maine.

00:49:01.000 The Gulf of Tonkin.

00:49:03.000 Weapons of mass destruction.

00:49:07.000 Governments all over the world have got away with these things.

00:49:09.000 You know, Hitler got away with the Reichstag fire.

00:49:13.000 They blamed it on the left wing or some deranged commie.

00:49:18.000 These things are commonplace in history and they always were.

00:49:22.000 In fact, I wonder if there are any examples that didn't work.

00:49:29.000 I can't think of any offhand, maybe there are some somewhere.

00:49:34.000 Well, it's with everything, like you said.

00:49:37.000 I mean, Operation Gladio, they got away with that as well.

00:49:41.000 And I think it comes down to the fact that when people don't have time or don't have the effort to scratch the surface on these things, they just throw in their lot with the US government as if it's some kind of baseball team, like they scored a major victory.

00:49:57.000 I mean, in the aftermath of the bombardment of Iraq, pizza and I think that must be it.

00:50:04.000 went through the roof and it's kind of just this dumbing down this reduction of what amounts in the end to the slaughter of thousands of millions of people to supporting a baseball team or a football team and that's that's the kind of post 9-11 mental castration that they're now trying to reinvigorate after this latest fraud i think that must be it um and so

00:50:30.000 but still we'll remember now the the two questions that we should focus on is what are the real agendas behind this theater - Sure.

00:50:42.000 And two, why did the government change the story?

00:50:45.000 And we'll talk about that after the break with Paul Craig-Roberts.

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00:54:21.000 It's the Alex Jones Show live with me, Paul Joseph Watson.

00:54:24.000 Delighted to be joined by Paul Craig Roberts.

00:54:27.000 We were talking about the agendas behind why they're contriving this Bin Laden fable. 0.83

00:54:33.000 Many have suggested that we had these reports a couple of weeks ago about the Pakistani government protesting about the US drone strike simply because of the fact that they've killed so many innocent people in Pakistan.

00:54:47.000 We had the Prime Minister of Pakistan Yusuf Ranza Jilani saying, quote, these attacks are creating a lot of problems for us.

00:54:55.000 The US will have to stop these attacks.

00:54:57.000 And of course, there were massive protests in Pakistan about these drone strikes just days before this Bin Laden fraud was rolled out. 0.99

00:55:07.000 Pakistan is now being geopolitically isolated.

00:55:11.000 They're saying that Pakistan was harbouring Bin Laden all along, of course.

00:55:15.000 That only means that so was the CIA.

00:55:17.000 It's tied with the Pakistani ISI at the hip.

00:55:20.000 Those are the two organisations that created Bin Laden as a terrorist leader in the first place.

00:55:26.000 So a lot of people are suggesting that it's a kind of reprisal against Pakistan.

00:55:32.000 For their unwillingness to continue going along with this support in the hegemony of the US Empire.

00:55:40.000 I want to get your comments on that but I also want to turn to Libya.

00:55:43.000 We had the NATO spokesman James Apathori two days ago say, quote, the UN Security Council should adopt a new resolution on Libya.

00:55:54.000 Resolution 1973 does not envisage land operations.

00:55:59.000 We need a new resolution.

00:56:01.000 So, Dr. Roberts, it seems that NATO and the UN are basically going back on everything they promised when this bombardment started.

00:56:09.000 They're now talking about ground troops.

00:56:13.000 How long do you think ground troops... until ground troops are sent in?

00:56:17.000 And why has Libya been targeted for a regime change amongst all this?

00:56:23.000 Okay, Paul, first to ask the question about did they concoct the Bin Laden death to shut up Pakistan?

00:56:31.000 No.

00:56:32.000 But no doubt they saw that as also another useful game of it, but they wouldn't have organized it for that purpose.

00:56:41.000 But when you organize something like this, all sorts of agendas can get hooked onto it.

00:56:50.000 You can see them sitting around the table and somebody says, well, this will also let us put pressure on Pakistan. 0.99

00:56:55.000 We'll blame them.

00:56:56.000 Blah, blah.

00:56:59.000 And often what happens is the people who concocted for the real agenda, perhaps it was Obama wanting to get reelected or boost him.

00:57:09.000 You see, here's what Obama was faced with.

00:57:13.000 He was thinking in the polls.

00:57:16.000 And so the question was whether he would all of a sudden be faced with challenges for the nomination.

00:57:24.000 See, that's the last thing a sitting president wants.

00:57:27.000 He wants to be re-nominated without having to go through a primary of his own.

00:57:33.000 But if he's sinking in the polls at a time that's getting close enough to the presidential campaign itself, then he has to worry about All the money getting behind another candidate.

00:57:50.000 So if he can boost his popularity long enough to make it too difficult for a last-minute challenge to come up.

00:58:01.000 So that's one good reason for Obama to have done this.

00:58:04.000 And it's probably the lead reason that he did it.

00:58:11.000 That it was done.

00:58:12.000 To get rid of any Okay, we're going to have to leave it there.

00:58:17.000 We're out of time.

00:58:18.000 We'll talk about Libya next time.

00:58:20.000 Thanks Paul, Craig, Robert.

00:58:22.000 Now, you can also give him a benefit of the doubt and look at it the other way.

00:58:27.000 You can say, well, look, it's finally dawned on him, maybe a few of his policymakers, that the dollar's sinking.

00:58:33.000 Okay, we're going to have to leave it there.

00:58:36.000 We'll talk about Libya next time.

00:58:36.000 We're out of time.

00:58:38.000 Thanks, Paul Craig Roberts.

00:58:39.000 Stay tuned.

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01:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:23.000 Second hour of the Alex Jones Show.

01:00:25.000 We're going a million miles an hour today because we've got so many guests, so many different hosts.

01:00:30.000 We've got Steve Watson coming up at the bottom of the hour.

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01:00:44.000 We're joined by Steve R. Pachenik, whose revelations this week have prompted one of the biggest reactions we've ever had from a guest.

01:00:55.000 The listeners have been completely blown away with what they've heard.

01:00:59.000 Steve Pachenik, of course, Deputy Assistant Secretary under three different administrations, also worked in the Reagan and Bush senior administrations.

01:01:09.000 Top spymaster, terrorist hunter for the US government, wrote the book on psychological warfare and counter-terrorism for the State Department, and of course dropped the bombshell this week on the Alex Jones Show that Osama Bin Laden has been dead for the best part of a decade, since late 2001.

01:01:28.000 Dr. Pichennik, great to have you back on the show today.

01:01:32.000 Oh, it's always a pleasure, and I want to thank you and Alex Jones for bringing me on, and I want to thank the audience for listening to me.

01:01:40.000 It's very kind of them, and again, this is something that we go back over a decade.

01:01:47.000 It's very rare to have a host like Alex Jones, who had the bravery to bring me on ten years ago, right after 9-11, when I pronounced not only was 9-11 a false flag, And stand-down operation, which most Americans now realize, but at the same time, part of the whole scenario of the PsyOps war that was created by Bush Jr.

01:02:10.000 and before that Clinton, quite frankly, because he was involved, was the fact that Osama bin Laden had been diagnosed with Marfan syndrome.

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01:02:24.000 And one of the consequences is arterial fracture, and all kinds of side effects, but primarily renal dialysis with a very short lifespan.

01:02:33.000 And Alex talked about it yesterday.

01:02:35.000 And at the time that 9-11 occurred, he was eminently dying, and then by the time Toragora came in, he was already dead.

01:02:43.000 So when I went on the air 9, 10 years ago, and Alex was kind enough to invite me, I said, look, Osama bin Laden is dead.

01:02:53.000 But the issue of why we used Osama bin Laden is basically a story narrative that the intelligence community, usually the CIA and civilians, not often the military, although the military is...

01:03:08.000 Literally, uh, separated out at this point.

01:03:11.000 Many of my own men I work with in special forces, not the Navy, but the army, particularly in the army intelligence, I have really been watching this and, and I must admit that we have, I have full respect for our military.

01:03:25.000 I myself was a Colonel at 32 and refused promotion at 39.

01:03:29.000 But my point being that there was a narrative that was developed in order for the United States to go into a so-called war on terrorism, which is an oxymoron because terrorism is not a war.

01:03:40.000 It's a tactic.

01:03:41.000 It's not a strategy.

01:03:43.000 And that narrative was carried forth with all kinds of storylines that made no sense, including al-Shamma bin Laden was supposed to be the bad guy, and that's why we went in there, and we would pursue him and continue the war in Iraq and Afghanistan for reasons that were unclear to everybody and we would pursue him and continue the war in Iraq and Afghanistan for reasons that were unclear to everybody except that we were killing al-Qaeda members, but it turned out that the al-Qaeda members we were killing were the people we trained in the beginning when I was involved in the Carter administration

01:04:15.000 They came out, some of them from special forces.

01:04:17.000 others from other divisions of the military, and were trained in Brooklyn and elsewhere, and then were put in as Mujahideen, as most of the Americans know.

01:04:27.000 And then eventually the storyline went, as the Bush administration created, with the Keneo-Kons, Paul Wolfowitz in particular, Zalmay Khalasad, Elliot Abrams, Condoleezza Rice, Richard Cheney, all of the what would eventually be turning criminals and liars as we found all of the what would eventually be turning criminals and liars as we found out that there was no And suddenly, not only did we have one villain, Osama bin Laden, who had already been dead in this narrative

01:04:54.000 We'll talk about it after the break, stay there, we'll be right back with Steve R. Pchenik.

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01:07:59.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:08:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:08:15.000 We're live.

01:08:16.000 It's the Alex Jones Show.

01:08:17.000 We're talking to Steve R. Pachenik, top spymaster, works under five US administrations.

01:08:24.000 Dr. Pachenik, I was talking in the last half hour to the former Assistant Treasury Secretary under Reagan, Paul Craig Roberts.

01:08:32.000 And he was, of course, fascinated by the statement you made earlier this week.

01:08:37.000 The fact that a top general under Wolfowitz told you directly that 9-11 was a false flag and that you were prepared to go in front of a federal committee to reveal that name.

01:08:49.000 Roberts was wanting to know how you're not concerned about your safety while withholding that kind of explosive information.

01:08:57.000 So can you elaborate on that for us?

01:09:00.000 I'd be happy to explain it.

01:09:01.000 Number one, uh, most of the people who are involved in the false flag and stand down understand what it is I really did over 20 to 30 years.

01:09:12.000 Uh, I was what you call a solo operant and worked all over the world.

01:09:17.000 I didn't work for the CIA.

01:09:18.000 I worked directly for the president or the secretary of state and I did regime change to that gentleman.

01:09:24.000 And others understand what I do and I won't go into detail and they don't really have to go into understanding how I do it.

01:09:33.000 But they do understand every one of the neocons knows me exceedingly well.

01:09:38.000 And remember I had, well, you should know, I had worked with Cheney and Rumsfeld before under the Nixon administration.

01:09:45.000 I didn't personally know them.

01:09:46.000 And Rumsfeld was at the Rand Corporation, but I had worked with all the neocons and they weren't allowed under the Bush senior administration.

01:09:53.000 So the issue of my safety is not really the issue.

01:09:57.000 I'm just like any other American citizen who served our country.

01:10:01.000 And I said, you know, It's enough.

01:10:03.000 I was Colonel at 32.

01:10:04.000 I was promoted to Brigadier at 37 or 39.

01:10:08.000 I refused that.

01:10:09.000 I didn't go in full time.

01:10:11.000 I went out to become what every American citizen is as an entrepreneur and basically wanted to live my life.

01:10:17.000 As I wanted to, and make the mistakes that I could, and criticize the administration while being able to serve it.

01:10:24.000 And I volunteer still to serve our military, and I'm very proud of that.

01:10:29.000 I won't go into the details, and I don't ask for money, and I never have, and I don't receive a pension.

01:10:34.000 But it's a very clear understanding that your American public should understand that if somebody doesn't step forward, I'm no more a hero than a mechanic, a truck driver, or anyone else, and I'm saying this is enough.

01:10:46.000 And I don't worry for my life.

01:10:48.000 My life has been at risk serving my country, I don't know, eight, nine different times from the Middle East to the East Asia to Cambodia with the Khmer Rouge, with the Red Brigade, with PFLP.

01:11:01.000 And so I think those who know what I'm saying understand that.

01:11:05.000 This could be a mutual assured destruction if anything really happened to me, and it would really not be very good for anyone to consider even thinking about terminating me, because it's not an issue.

01:11:19.000 I mean, I don't need to threaten anybody.

01:11:21.000 Everybody understands in the business what I do and what I've done, and it would be best for everybody just to cool it and allow an American citizen to say exactly what he wants to say, to criticize a president Who's not qualified to really be in this position at this point in time, who has maintained a narrative that's totally deceptive, false, a lie.

01:11:44.000 And basically, the issue is, you know, those who are involved in this deception and in 9-11, they're not going to get away with it.

01:11:53.000 They have to understand.

01:11:55.000 The American public will not allow the unresolved issues of 9-11 to go away, as you've seen even a decade later, thanks to people like yourself and Alex Jones, and the wonderful, wonderful people who are listening to this, the radio broadcast.

01:12:10.000 I don't see myself as any particular hero, or whether there's a death threat, that's fine.

01:12:16.000 I mean, I do what I do without the concept that they're going to kill me or I'm going to disappear, and that's unfortunate for most people because I feel like the Jeffersonian doctrine, which is every generation has to fight for their own democracy.

01:12:31.000 So, I'm blessed to be in a country where at the same time I can serve Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Ford, Carter, and Bush Senior, who I admire immensely.

01:12:42.000 And at the same time be able to criticize his son, who I thought was totally incompetent and totally dangerous, Bush Jr.

01:12:50.000 And now I see that there's a sequel to that, and that is Obama.

01:12:54.000 It doesn't matter to me whether you're Republican, Democrat, Independent, or any other spectrum of the policy, but you cannot, I repeat, you cannot ...continue to have a psyops operation on the American public that wants to justify the increased popularity and self-aggrandizement of a president like either Bush Jr.

01:13:15.000 or Obama, and he uses that to manipulate the public without telling the truth, and then gets to confabulate stories about an attack where a man was already dead and had a confrontation which never existed, And an intelligence community that backed it up and knows fully well that they have deceived and lied the American public.

01:13:37.000 It's important that your audience understand, at this present point, terrorism has become such a big business.

01:13:46.000 We have over 850,000 people involved around the Washington area in the military-industrial complex, making top-secret relations, which is absurd.

01:13:58.000 We have TSA that has really never done anything to prevent or protract safety.

01:14:04.000 And what's important to understand in this point right now for the public, we have been safe for over 30 to 40 years.

01:14:10.000 Nothing and no one has ever attacked the United States.

01:14:14.000 The only people who attacked the United States was George Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld.

01:14:19.000 So the nonsense that since 9-11 we have been safe is an absolute lie.

01:14:25.000 It's a continuous lie and those who believe it are continuously deceiving the American public.

01:14:31.000 If anything else, it has become worse.

01:14:34.000 We've exacerbated our relationship with the Pakistani government, the Pakistani military, which I have worked with under Yaqub Khan, and they're very true intelligence operatives who can have the access or have the access that I've had, including with the fundamentalists, Islamic fundamentalists who went to school with me.

01:14:52.000 And, at the same time, we have become an increasingly policed state, which is exacerbating our economy, the fact that we are going down in our living standards, the fact that people have to have double jobs, there are no jobs available, and this president, all he cares about is garnering a billion dollars to re-elect himself in another narrative, which was totally delusional.

01:15:16.000 So the problem now isn't about me.

01:15:19.000 I'm not more a hero than any American who says, look, this is enough.

01:15:23.000 I'm not going to take this anymore.

01:15:25.000 But I didn't expect 10 years later for another delusionary panderer called a president, a politician, whether you're Republican or Democrat, To continue this nonsensical story that we have been attacked by Muslims, which we hadn't been. 0.54

01:15:42.000 We were attacked by our own people in a false flag operation, and the point of the Osama Bin Laden resurrection is This is the psychological resurrection. 0.92

01:15:52.000 If the SEALs attacked anything, then they're going to have to explain to me, who's been in intelligence for a long time and works with special forces, not the SEALs primarily, how they attacked the mortuary.

01:16:04.000 You know?

01:16:05.000 Because he's dead.

01:16:06.000 And he was dead for 9 to 10 years, and there are others who can confirm that.

01:16:10.000 The issue at hand now is still more important.

01:16:12.000 We have to stop this government and other governments from continuing to deceive, deny, and continuously manipulate the American public.

01:16:23.000 That's why Alex Jones is so important on your radio show.

01:16:27.000 They can call us conspirators.

01:16:28.000 I don't care.

01:16:29.000 You know, that's an incredible, easy way for the intelligence community, which is not very effective, by the way.

01:16:35.000 And let me give you another little statistic.

01:16:38.000 80% of the CIA now are composed of mercenaries.

01:16:42.000 In the days that I worked under Reagan, Bush, and Bush Sr.

01:16:46.000 in particular, we had real heroes.

01:16:49.000 Men who had really served our countries and worked on the Cold War.

01:16:52.000 They were interesting in self-aggrandizement.

01:16:55.000 They were interesting in promoting Seal 6.

01:16:58.000 No special forces unit that I have worked with, including Delta and other units in hostage negotiation, in the Army particularly, has ever come forth and said how great I am and let me show you how great I am.

01:17:11.000 It is unfortunate that the Navy has a proclivity, including under Admiral Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, whose father happens to have been a publicist for my talent agency, William Morris, and has a proclivity for self-aggrandizement because he made a real faux pas by giving the Medal of Honor and has a proclivity for self-aggrandizement because he made a real faux pas by giving the Medal of Honor to Greg Mortensen, another sociopath who claimed

01:17:36.000 He has a proclivity to dramatize a unit that has had a questionable history of effectiveness, the SEALs.

01:17:43.000 When I was involved under Reagan, the SEALs were lost on a raft, six of them, four to six of them, on an assault to Grenada.

01:17:52.000 Now you explain that to me, but every movie I have seen, and your public has ever seen, aggrandizes and self-aggrandizes the SEAL unit, including Demi Moore's film, G.I.

01:18:03.000 Jane, and other films.

01:18:05.000 But the units I worked with and had to consult to, you will never know about.

01:18:11.000 They are dedicated, quiet men and women who have been intellectually exceedingly perceptive, very highly trained, and their job is to do their job, keep it quiet, and go home.

01:18:27.000 And we're talking about great generals like General Petraeus and other generals who really have served our country, but you don't hear them going out And creating this fantasy of how they went in there and attacked a man who was out, but wasn't on, who is dead, but isn't dead, but now is floating in the water.

01:18:46.000 So I warn the Navy, in particular the Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, the best he can do, Mullen, is to resign now.

01:18:54.000 And the same thing with Panetta.

01:18:55.000 You're not qualified to run the CIA or the military, Secretary of Defense.

01:19:01.000 And I warn the President of the United States, cease and desist this nonsensical story and stop calling the American people conspirator and marginalizing us by telling us what he wants to hear.

01:19:13.000 Because the truth of the matter is the more he says things that are absurd and contradictory, the more he's going to expose himself to people like myself and others about his own questionable background and, I'm not talking about his birther.

01:19:28.000 He knows he has a very questionable history and he's treading on very dangerous waters when you come into the world of PsyOps in a world where guys like me and others who I work with are really professional.

01:19:41.000 I don't go out in public, I don't need to have my picture taken, I don't need to have a uniform, and I don't have to be interviewed every 30 seconds to say how great I am.

01:19:52.000 Okay, we'll be back to talk more about it after the break with Dr. Steve Puccini.

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01:23:57.000 We're back live on the Alex Jones show May 5th, 2011.

01:24:18.000 Talking to Dr. Steve Pachenik, who has been completely vindicated at the The Situation Room photos were staged.

01:24:27.000 Obama and Hillary did not watch the Bin Laden raid.

01:24:31.000 Obama lied Sunday night on national television when he told Americans that he did.

01:24:36.000 I want to get your take on that, Steve, and also, we don't have much time, just one more question.

01:24:42.000 On Sunday, Obama said America was safer because of this staged Bin Laden fable.

01:24:48.000 They've ramped up the police state, they're talking about putting the terror level up a notch.

01:24:53.000 How much danger are we in of them staging another false flag inside America within the next few weeks?

01:25:00.000 Well, I don't want to say they're going to create a false flag, but what he's done is exactly... When you lie, you continuously lie.

01:25:06.000 So he will lie to create, in order to maintain this lie, he will increase what looks like the presence of counter-terrorist people, TSA and cops and all.

01:25:16.000 But the reality, the only thing that's effective in terrorism, in counter-terrorism over 30 years, is human intelligence.

01:25:23.000 And he doesn't have that.

01:25:24.000 And the CIA doesn't have that, because 80% of them on contract, the ones who have it are in the military, usually the army.

01:25:31.000 Some elements of the Air Force.

01:25:33.000 So I'm not worried.

01:25:34.000 If they pulled another false flag, we're going to have a revolution in America.

01:25:37.000 And he knows that.

01:25:38.000 He will understand that.

01:25:39.000 The intelligence community will understand.

01:25:42.000 That will precipitate violence in this country.

01:25:44.000 And I warn the intelligent community that's listening now and the military, do not even think of creating another false flag, because that will be the beginning of the second American revolution.

01:25:56.000 That will be the beginning where really the American public that is allowed to have guns will really understand that this country is out of control.

01:26:04.000 So now I am warning the President of the United States, who is not the brightest individual in the world and who is also not very confident in his job, that if you want to get reelected, you best get reelected by understanding what the office is.

01:26:18.000 It's to serve the public.

01:26:20.000 It's not to serve your own grandeur and your own narcissism.

01:26:23.000 It's to serve the American public.

01:26:25.000 And by increasing the so-called security, you're creating more and more trouble.

01:26:29.000 You've created more trouble by men and women, our honorable men and women who've gone and fought and died for this nonsense, so that you can get re-elected.

01:26:38.000 Our veterans coming back without any benefits because you are not able to supply them and you cannot get re-elected on the bodies of the American people and on their welfare.

01:26:49.000 So I warn you repeatedly, if you think I am just full of air, you better look at my history again on regime change.

01:26:57.000 It will be very easy to initiate a regime change with you, Mr. President, and everyone around the intelligence community.

01:27:04.000 If you want to come forth, I'll be happy to discuss it with you, but I believe that President No. 0.84

01:27:09.000 1 is too cowardly, No. 0.95

01:27:11.000 2 not too bright, and his lying will be the undoing of this presidency.

01:27:16.000 Dr. Puccini, about these staged photos, I mean, you said they were staged, now it's come out that they were, what do you have to say about that?

01:27:25.000 Well, you know, being right is not good in my life, because I'm a physician.

01:27:28.000 If I tell you you have cancer, I'm not proud to say that you have cancer.

01:27:33.000 Believe me, I have no great satisfaction in saying nine years later that the American public has been duped again.

01:27:40.000 But I'm warning those who are creating this story, including the intelligence community, The 850,000 people involved in counter-terrorism, beware of what you do.

01:27:51.000 You will be held accountable.

01:27:53.000 The American public will hold you accountable.

01:27:56.000 There are myself and others who understand exactly who you are, what you are doing.

01:28:02.000 Do not mess with the American public, and that's my warning.

01:28:06.000 There will be more deceptions, more lies, but if you increase your TSA, you increase your security, You will weaken the fibers of our democracy and that will begin the second American Revolution.

01:28:19.000 And if they don't understand that they better look at what happened to the neocons.

01:28:23.000 To Scooter Libby and to many others.

01:28:27.000 So you better understand, once again, I have not given you a false threat.

01:28:32.000 I am threatening you again on behalf of the Americans. 0.98

01:28:35.000 As an American, do not play with American security, freedom, and the right to protest.

01:28:42.000 That will be the demise of your institution.

01:28:46.000 You cannot keep lying.

01:28:48.000 Your lying will undo this presidency and will undo the fabric of our society.

01:28:55.000 So be careful.

01:28:56.000 Your sociopathy got you to the presidency but will not keep you in the presidency.

01:29:01.000 Those are my final words.

01:29:02.000 God bless America.

01:29:05.000 We've got to leave it there, we're out of time.

01:29:07.000 Really appreciate you spending time with us and we'll be sure to have you back on the show.

01:29:13.000 There goes Dr. Steve Puchenik with more astounding revelations on the Alex Jones Show and I'm sure that he'll be back on the air very shortly.

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01:33:39.000 In the third hour we've got Aaron Dykes coming up to present some deep research that he's been working on, which is always interesting to hear.

01:33:49.000 But today we're talking, obviously, the hot topic As President Obama grandstands at Ground Zero, reaping the political benefits of Osama Bin Laden, just as President Bush did before him.

01:34:08.000 So we're going to get into a bit of the history of The mythical figure, Bin Laden, who he is, where he's come from and how he's going to be still an icon to be used by the establishment in the future.

01:34:25.000 Obviously, the facts are getting lost in a froth of false vindication and faux patriotism that has arisen this week since the announcement on Sunday.

01:34:37.000 But it's obviously key to break this down, to understand why this has fundamentally and permanently altered our society for the worse.

01:34:48.000 So we've got the notion of the sort of bad guy we got him, good triumphs over evil, and this idea that our governments represent our own sense of morality which is obviously a complete theatre.

01:35:05.000 It's just simply not reflective of reality and the way the world actually works.

01:35:11.000 And, you know, anyone who actually believes that is either badly misinformed or completely naive, so...

01:35:19.000 As the listeners of this show and, uh, many more people are aware, uh, the origins of Bin Laden trace us back to, uh, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, um, where he was him and the Mujahideen were trained and funded by the CIA and the Pentagon Intelligence Services.

01:35:44.000 So, rather than lingering on that, we'll move on to some other examples of how Bin Laden's been used by the establishment to forward this idea of the boogeyman, the terror mastermind.

01:36:03.000 But first it's important to check out the interviews that Alex has conducted over the past week with Steve Pchenik and the interview that we've just heard because There are people at the moment, detractors, who are just simply, seem to be immune to facts and evidence.

01:36:25.000 And these articles and these interviews of this, people like Pchenik, someone who's served under five presidents at the highest levels of government, it's important to get these out to people.

01:36:37.000 You know, to show, to present the evidence, because For example, earlier this week Alex was on Talk Sport UK radio and callers were calling in.

01:36:50.000 As he was giving out all the evidence, quoting the experts, and just simply, they were simply not hearing what he was saying.

01:36:57.000 They were saying he had, all he had was a website and maybe a YouTube video of himself saying these things.

01:37:04.000 And that's a good clip to, that's a good clip to, and a good interview to get out to people, the TalkSport one.

01:37:12.000 It's on the Alex Jones channel, the YouTube channel, because it shows that there's a kind of cognitive dissonance going on.

01:37:18.000 There's a kind of A divide that's being driven by this faux patriotism that we have to overcome.

01:37:29.000 The idea that Bin Laden was killed in this hovel which the media for some reason referred to as a million dollar mansion at first.

01:37:41.000 We've got staged photographs flying around, we've got You know, even if they do release a video or a photo, it's too late because they've already released a load of nonsense over the past decade.

01:37:54.000 Fake Bin Laden videos, recycled, rehashed material.

01:37:58.000 It's important to get these key articles out to people to explain, to get through this cognitive dissonance, this holding two ideas in the head at the same time that conflicts because You've got this group of people who are almost violently patriotic at the moment with this announcement.

01:38:16.000 It's a kind of psychological resurrection of the buggyman Bin Laden figure. 0.94

01:38:22.000 And it's very difficult to get through to them without getting these key facts and the words of these experts out to them because at the end of the day we're just people on camera or on the radio telling you these things.

01:38:37.000 These people have to go to this stuff and see it for themselves.

01:38:40.000 But we're going to get into, as I said, we're going to get into the history of this Bin Laden figure over the next couple of segments, and then in the third hour we've got Aaron Dykes.

01:38:50.000 So let's go back to...

01:38:55.000 Up until 2001, the sort of, you know, the real death of Bin Laden, which occurred, according to everyone who is in the know, in 2001, shortly after 9-11.

01:39:07.000 Depending on the specific case that you choose to look at, Bin Laden was either being actively assisted and protected, or willfully ignored and allowed to operate by our governments and intelligence agencies.

01:39:23.000 In the early 90s he led what became Al-Qaeda to Bosnia shortly after the outbreak of the conflict there to fight against the Bosnian Serbs who subsequently became the target of US-NATO airstrikes.

01:39:42.000 But during that conflict the Pentagon smuggled Vast amounts of arms to Bosnian Muslims, led from afar by Bin Laden, all the while knowing they were being led by Bin Laden. 0.60

01:39:55.000 And the arms were smuggled through Croatia, which was in flagrant violation of UN arms embargoes at the time.

01:40:10.000 They were working in tandem with, actually with Iran and Hezbollah to deliver weapons to these Bosnian Muslims.

01:40:19.000 They had the financial backing of Saudi Arabia as well.

01:40:23.000 But the reason for this was because Pentagon was indebted to these fighters stemming from Afghanistan and also stemming from the first Gulf War against Saddam Hussein.

01:40:38.000 During the Bosnia conflict, they were even involved in airlifting hundreds of these fighters, these Islamist fighters, into Bosnia on black C-130 Hercules aircraft.

01:40:54.000 I mean, you can search the headline, America used Islamists to arm Bosnian Muslims, and you'll get a lot of articles that break this down.

01:41:06.000 And, you know, this is one of the first examples of Bin Laden being used as this Western asset. 0.89

01:41:18.000 There's an excellent account actually written by a professor here in the UK called Richard J. Aldrich, who was a professor at Nottingham University where I studied, and he's written articles for The Guardian.

01:41:33.000 And I think he's now a professor at Warwick University.

01:41:35.000 He's since moved.

01:41:36.000 He's put lots of books out there, sort of delving into the, you know, behind-the-scenes intelligence of the Bosnian conflicts and what really went on there with the Pentagon's involvement.

01:41:51.000 And obviously they set up, following the end of the war, Uh, they set up terrorist training camps in Bosnia, uh, these Muslims that had been funded, and eventually it was all blowback again, and it came back onto the Pentagon, and they became the ones that eventually, uh... 0.61

01:42:11.000 We were basically in conflict with... So another classic example of the sort of using these groups and Bin Laden as the pawns in the chess game for the Western intelligence services and you know when they're done with them they simply discard them they simply get rid of them or have to fight them and you know when they become useful again they will shift them into a different territory. 0.91

01:42:41.000 As they did when the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia occurred in 1999, where Bin Laden's fighters were moved into Kosovo, which is in Serbia's southern provinces, to aid the Kosovo Liberation Army, which was basically an Albanian terrorist faction.

01:43:06.000 So again, another example, it was, you know, the US and NATO and the Kosovo Liberation Army with Al-Qaeda that were involved in the terrorist acts that were triggering responses from the Serbian authorities that eventually led to the conflicts there.

01:43:23.000 And, you know, eventually before weeks, and this went on for years, and weeks before 9-11, we were still helping, still using Al-Qaeda there.

01:43:36.000 Some fighters were airlifted out of Macedonia on US planes, according to German intelligence sources.

01:43:44.000 Which means, obviously, that our intelligence was still, you know, aiding Al-Qaeda fighters at that time, weeks before 9-11.

01:43:54.000 And then, of course, there was a similar event which occurred following the invasion of Afghanistan in November 2001, where Hundreds of fighters, hundreds of Taliban and Al-Qaeda fighters were flowing out of Afghanistan into Pakistan on Pakistani cargo planes which couldn't have possibly happened without the Pentagon's knowledge because they'd secured the region at that time.

01:44:23.000 But sort of, going back to the mid-90s, another place where Bin Laden popped up, this mythical terror mastermind, was Libya, 1996, when it was revealed that, uh, by French intelligence that there was a plot to assassinate Gaddafi.

01:44:47.000 Which obviously has ramifications for what's going on in Libya now.

01:44:53.000 As it was revealed by French intelligence that Western intelligence services had wired $200,000 to a cell controlled by Bin Laden, which moved into Libya to initiate a grenade attack on Gaddafi.

01:45:12.000 And after the plot failed, I think the Libyans released Footage of the attack on TV claiming it was a Western attack.

01:45:23.000 And this was then verified by sources in, that worked in MI5 here and French Intelligence.

01:45:33.000 And the Libyans issued an arrest warrant for Bin Laden, which was an Interpol arrest warrant, which was the first actual arrest warrant for him.

01:45:44.000 But it was actively blocked by MI6, who were obviously

01:45:50.000 wary of their own ties to the plot to assassinate Gaddafi being exposed and you know this has all been this has all been revealed in mainstream media sources and terrorists from that cell in Libya went on to they were this you know the same terrorists who went on to conduct the bombings in on the embassies in Africa in the late 90s

01:46:18.000 So again, it's an example of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda being groomed, funded, trained, used, aided, moved around like pawns in a chess game. 0.74

01:46:35.000 And so, we arrive at the situation now where, you know, we've got Bin Laden as the ultimate buggyman in this crazy false raid And it all stems back to this, and we can give a few more examples as well of him being an intelligence asset. 0.93

01:46:54.000 We can point to the time he was in Sudan, and around the same time as the Libya plot in the mid-90s, it was known that he was in Sudan.

01:47:07.000 The government there contacted the CIA and offered to have him arrested.

01:47:13.000 Obviously it was the Clinton administration at this time.

01:47:16.000 They offered to have him arrested and shipped off to Saudi Arabia where he could be held in custody and then extracted from there by the Americans should they wish to do so.

01:47:28.000 But the Clinton administration turned it down.

01:47:31.000 Turn the offer down from the Sudanese government because they said they didn't have enough of a case to indict Bin Laden which is on its face ridiculous because at the time he was publicly known as You know, the greatest financier of terrorist projects around the world.

01:47:54.000 Obviously, behind the scenes, there's more going on to them, but publicly that's what he was known as.

01:48:00.000 But still, the Clinton administration didn't have A case, it claimed, so that was the first opportunity they had to capture him and extract him and deal with him back then, all those years before 9-11.

01:48:20.000 And the Saudis refused to cooperate with it anyway, obviously because of their own intelligence ties to him as well.

01:48:29.000 So, I mean, the fallout of all that was Bin Laden was expelled from Sudan and he went to Afghanistan where we know he, uh...

01:48:41.000 Went on to conduct all the other plots he did.

01:48:44.000 He chartered a flight from Afghanistan in 1996 with 150 followers, including some of his family, to Afghanistan.

01:48:54.000 And on the way, the plane actually stopped and refuelled in Qatar, the Gulf state of Qatar, which is also an ally, a friendly nation to Washington.

01:49:07.000 So, I mean, the authorities there would have known, would have contacted the Americans, but still he was allowed to proceed after that stop in Qatar.

01:49:17.000 And there were also, you know, other opportunities for Clinton to capture and bring to justice bin Laden.

01:49:26.000 In 2000, the Taliban Offered to hand Bin Laden over to a Gulf state through unofficial channels.

01:49:35.000 Contacted the Clinton administration and offered to do this, but the provisor was it was through unofficial channels.

01:49:46.000 They sent out, at the time, the senior counter-terrorism advisor Richard Clarke, who has since gone on to reveal a lot of interesting facts about what went on at that time.

01:50:01.000 They sent Richard Clarke to To the United Arab Emirates, which was the Gulf state involved in supposedly taking Bin Laden from the Taliban.

01:50:17.000 The United Arab Emirates later denied that there was any kind of plot.

01:50:22.000 Uh, to offer Bin Laden over and it was basically revealed that because the White House had gone through official channels and not unofficial channels to do all this, as had been demanded, that the opportunity fell through again.

01:50:37.000 So...

01:50:41.000 You can search for details of all these opportunities to seize Bin Laden.

01:50:45.000 I think it was the Sunday Times that broke this a number of years ago and the articles are still out there, so all this information is still out there.

01:50:55.000 After we come back from the break, we're going to look at Opportunities post 9/11.

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01:54:42.000 We're discussing the psychological resurrection of Osama Bin Laden on the Alex Jones Show.

01:54:50.000 I'm Steve Watson.

01:54:51.000 Alex is away for a couple of days.

01:54:53.000 Like I said before we've got Aaron Dykes coming up in the third hour so stay around for that.

01:54:58.000 Before we were discussing chances to grab bin Laden that were overlooked or ignored purposefully previous to 9-11.

01:55:09.000 And as Sybil Edmonds, the FBI translator, has famously testified, Bin Laden was working with the CIA right up until 9/11 and beyond 9/11

01:55:28.000 really because we had reports of Bin Laden being visited by CIA officials in July 2001 in a hospital in Dubai, an American hospital where he was being treated for kidney disease and And the CIA agents visited there and later bragged about this.

01:56:00.000 Obviously he was reported to have serious kidney disease and that is a factor in the reason why many people believe this current raid hoax to be just that, a hoax, because he's been dead for a long time, because there's no way he could have been hiding out on a kidney dialysis machine, plotting the greatest, the biggest terrorist plot in the history of America, in the history of the world.

01:56:27.000 I mean, it's relatively common knowledge as well that the Bin Laden family was allowed to be flown out of the US following the attacks.

01:56:39.000 If you've seen Michael Moore's film, it's even in there, he goes into it.

01:56:43.000 So that's relatively common knowledge, but what's not common knowledge about that is the fact that the FBI knowingly allowed one of those flights to be chartered by Bin Laden himself.

01:56:57.000 This is something we revealed In 2007, 2008, when Judicial Watch, the sort of watchdog, the government watchdog, obtained documents through the Freedom of Information Act which outlined the fact that the FBI

01:57:19.000 knew that one of the flights that the Bin Laden family, which is a vast extensive family of Saudi millionaires, were flown out of the US after 9-11.

01:57:33.000 They knew that one of the flights was chartered by Bin Laden himself.

01:57:39.000 Which is incredible given that he was, you must remember that in the, in the early, in the first early days after 9-11, you know, it was only the media that was speculating that Bin Laden was the big mastermind behind the operation.

01:57:55.000 So, at that time, um, It wasn't, you know, it wasn't official, but the FBI still knew that he was, you know, the biggest terrorist in the world, and they'd allowed him to charter a flight, uh, with his own family out of the, out of the US.

01:58:13.000 So, we'll get into more about this after the break.

01:58:16.000 And now we've got Aaron Dykes coming up.

01:58:18.000 So stay tuned.

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02:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:24.000 So this is the Alex Jones Show.

02:00:26.000 I'm Steve Watson.

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02:00:29.000 We're passing the baton, as it were, today between hosts to try and keep the show crisp for you.

02:00:36.000 We've got Aaron Dykes coming up now.

02:00:39.000 I was talking about the fact that Bin Laden had been allowed to charter a flight himself Knowingly by the FBI after 9-11 out of the US, which to many people is just unbelievable, that the documents are there, the FBI actually redacted Bin Laden's name from the documents, took his name out.

02:01:02.000 I'll cover up the fact that it was Bin Laden. 0.97

02:01:06.000 You can search for this, you'll find articles on this, plenty of articles, one written by myself where I point to mainstream sources and the documents themselves released by Judicial Watch.

02:01:17.000 Of course, after this, there was never a formal indictment of Bin Laden for 9-11 by the FBI because they said From their own mouths, there was simply not enough evidence to go on that he was involved in the plot.

02:01:33.000 Right up until his supposed death, he's never been indicted for that.

02:01:38.000 Today we learned that the civil court case is being dropped in New York against Bin Laden because he's now Been put out to pasture, he's now dead.

02:01:50.000 Officially.

02:01:51.000 But you know, we had other documents such as the W199I document, which the Bush administration basically ordered the FBI to back off investigating the Bin Laden family. 0.59

02:02:04.000 Pre prior to 9-11 and it just goes on and on and on and the bottom line is this whole we've got him thing now is completely asinine and it requires a it requires a worldview that is just completely beyond belief naive and also requires a

02:02:23.000 A dangerously unquestioning, unswerving attitude towards our own governments and their secret services which have been engaged in illegal activity all over the globe for as long as we can remember.

02:02:38.000 Let's bring Aaron up here to see what he thinks about this.

02:02:40.000 Aaron, are you there?

02:02:42.000 I am here, Steve.

02:02:43.000 It's good to be on with you.

02:02:44.000 Go ahead, please.

02:02:48.000 So I was just going to ask you what information you've got coming up in the next hour.

02:02:53.000 You know, I really want to get into the whole case of how the Obama administration is trying to control reality.

02:02:59.000 We've got all these conflicting stories, and I think it's really the first time we've seen the president playing with the info war.

02:03:07.000 But the fact is, reality is reality, and they can't control a lemon story any better than anyone else can.

02:03:14.000 Nothing has ever added up about this 9-11 case, and I guess bin Laden's death is primarily a fairytale ending to a classic fairytale.

02:03:25.000 Yeah, and it's this whole sort of cognitive dissonance thing, because, you know, by now people know that a lot of these facts that we've continually been bringing up for the last ten years, by now they know that they're true, a lot of people, so they're holding in their heads at the same time two Conflicting ideas and they're choosing not to, you know, they're choosing not to recognize it because it's, you know, it's easier for them.

02:03:51.000 You know, but at the same time they've seen the endless wars, the build-up of the domestic police state and everything that our governments have lied to us about.

02:04:00.000 But yet there's still this group of people that are just blindly accepting the illusion, this fable that's being put out there.

02:04:08.000 I mean, where do you see this heading after You know, Obama's big grandstand today.

02:04:15.000 Well, he's of course trying to get political points.

02:04:17.000 I've seen some of the footage, as I'm sure others have, of him at ground zero.

02:04:22.000 But mainly, we know that they plan to continue this war on terror.

02:04:26.000 There's the Libya front, where al-Qaeda is now an ally.

02:04:29.000 And that really conflicts with the really old, out-of-date bin Laden story.

02:04:34.000 And I think they're looking to rebrand that, so they can rewrite the narrative.

02:04:37.000 Kind of new rules.

02:04:39.000 But I'll get more into that on the other side.

02:04:42.000 Yep, good job.

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02:04:44.000 Cheers for having me.

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02:08:06.000 Okay, we are back on the Alex Jones Show.

02:08:20.000 Alex is out for the day.

02:08:21.000 I'm Aaron Dykes.

02:08:22.000 You've heard Steve and Paul Joseph Watson, and just our incredible guest, Pichesnik, you know, willing to speak out even more than he has before, and of course, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

02:08:35.000 Of course, we've got to go more into the Bin Laden death hoax, which really, of course, has to do with Obama's sagging poll numbers, practically a Uh, defeated presidency.

02:08:49.000 And, uh, you know, of course they're spending it for political points.

02:08:52.000 Of course he's down at ground zero trying to give closure to the whole 9-11 myth.

02:08:58.000 But the way I see it, it's really a milestone in the InfoWar. 0.66

02:09:02.000 Even if they win short term, even though their story is falling apart, they've got conflicting reports.

02:09:08.000 They can't even agree on what was going on in this Bin Laden bunker.

02:09:12.000 And we'll get more into that in just a second, but just to Point out the obvious.

02:09:17.000 Why couldn't they show a photo not only of Bin Laden and his death when he's gruesome, but why couldn't they show a still from these cameras that were in during the raid showing him in his last moments alive, etc.

02:09:30.000 But I really question whether Obama is at that Nixonian point where he's taken his enemies personally, sees his critics in the world as enemies, and is really trying to score points with them.

02:09:44.000 He seemed very bitter in having to release his birth certificate, basic proof of his eligibility.

02:09:50.000 Now he seems very bitter at the idea of having to release bin Laden photos, saying that no one's going to believe it anyway.

02:09:58.000 And we really heard from Secretary Clinton a few months ago really identifying that this is an info war and that in fact the government, the State Department, the Obama administration, the Bush administration for that matter, are losing that info war.

02:10:14.000 Everything about the 9-11 lie has been picked apart.

02:10:18.000 For nearly a decade now, of course, it's never made sense and I guess it just adds up that a fairy tale would have a fairy tale conclusion with a mythological death of Bin Laden, no photos, no evidence, DNA supposedly matched before there's time to conduct a proper test, buried at sea.

02:10:39.000 Do we have the clip of Hillary Clinton?

02:10:44.000 Yeah, let's pull that up and get it ready.

02:10:46.000 It's really an info war where we're winning.

02:10:49.000 We've all, the supposed conspiracy theorists, have pointed out inconsistencies, brought up facts when they're available.

02:10:57.000 You know, sure there's people trying to figure out what may have happened, but generally we're picking apart this terrible, unstable, impossible official story and it just doesn't add up.

02:11:10.000 And here we have it.

02:11:11.000 It's an admitted info war.

02:11:13.000 We know disinformation and spam is put out by the government.

02:11:17.000 Let's cue that Hillary Clinton clip. 1.00

02:11:19.000 We are engaged in an information war.

02:11:22.000 You know, during the Cold War, we did a great job in getting America's message out.

02:11:27.000 After the Berlin Wall fell, we said, OK, fine, enough of that.

02:11:30.000 You know, we've done it.

02:11:31.000 We're done.

02:11:33.000 And unfortunately, we are paying a big price for it.

02:11:36.000 And our private media cannot fill that gap.

02:11:40.000 In fact, Our private media, particularly cultural programming, often works at counter-purposes to what we truly are as Americans and what our values are.

02:11:50.000 I remember having an Afghan general tell me that the only thing he thought about Americans is that all the men wrestled and the women walked...

02:11:59.000 So you see, you know, opening up roles for state-controlled media, state-planted propaganda.

02:12:05.000 We know what Cass Sunstein has written.

02:12:08.000 They want to have plants to rebut supposed conspiracy theorists, to counter information they don't think is Politically expedient or that doesn't help prop up their regime and really what it amounts to a pile of lies I bring this up even though it's a few months old because it really is an info war and I think we're seeing the moment where Obama is taking a personal part in that info war Which we're winning.

02:12:35.000 I'm leading up to an Alex Jones clip.

02:12:37.000 You would have seen it on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:12:40.000 Alex Jones mega rant, unleashed, winning.

02:12:43.000 You don't dictate reality.

02:12:45.000 I'm the king of reality, not conspiracy.

02:12:48.000 That's not Alex on an ego trip.

02:12:50.000 As you know, he says you in the clip.

02:12:53.000 I mean, he's the first person in the clip because he's engaged with this British host and these callers, as we're going to hear in a minute.

02:13:00.000 But he's really talking about the People who've tried to uncover the truth on 9-11 and so many other topics that we're winning and they can't dictate a false reality.

02:13:12.000 They can't even hold up a false story about Bin Laden's death.

02:13:15.000 It's completely falling apart at the seams.

02:13:19.000 Very likely evidence of Senators being deliberately fed disinformation.

02:13:24.000 Senators Scott Brown, Senator Saxby Chambliss, and other Senators admit they were conned by a totally fake bin Laden photo, which they in turn used to declare that yes, in fact, he's dead, don't question this, and they were in fact conned

02:13:44.000 We don't know exactly deliberately but I think it's highly likely they were deliberately steered to believing that in fact Bin Laden was dead based on false photographic evidence and we know that many family members Headline 9-11 family invited to presidential ground zero snubs Obama demands to see the photo.

02:14:04.000 We have Canadian members of the NDP demanding to see photos saying they have doubts that the US even has these photos and why not?

02:14:14.000 uh... when there's no evidence there's every reason to doubt what's going on and demand more information uh... so we're gonna get more into how the administration's trying to build uh... this this kingdom of lies uh... with this fairytale ending to the 9-11 myth so they can rebrand al-qaeda for a new era of the war on terror which they say could be a another hundred year war uh... you know like seven hundred years ago in europe uh... but let's go to the Alex Jones clip

02:14:42.000 Just told you Anwar al-Awlaki's secretly hanging out at the Pentagon!

02:14:45.000 Confirmed, admitted!

02:14:47.000 Come on! 0.61

02:14:47.000 Pull the trigger! 0.61

02:14:48.000 Pull the trigger!

02:14:50.000 Elizabeth, thank you for that.

02:14:51.000 Great to have you on.

02:14:52.000 Let's take another... There goes Elizabeth. 0.99

02:14:54.000 Let's take another call from Daniel, who's near Watford.

02:14:57.000 Daniel.

02:14:58.000 Hello.

02:14:59.000 Good evening, sir.

02:14:59.000 What would you like to say?

02:15:01.000 Hi, good evening.

02:15:01.000 I just wanted to cover a few points.

02:15:03.000 I mean...

02:15:03.000 I've obviously been listening for the last hour or so and I strongly disagree with quite a few of the things you've said now.

02:15:10.000 That I've said or Alex has said?

02:15:13.000 Alex has said.

02:15:14.000 I mean what you've said and neither here nor there.

02:15:19.000 So I mean Alex, really the question I've got to ask you is How can you possibly say that any of this mission to do with killing Osama Bin Laden was set up in any way?

02:15:29.000 Now, I mean, you take the situation... I mean, you're laughing already.

02:15:33.000 I mean, for example, I mean, take what the last guy that was on just said.

02:15:36.000 I completely agree with him.

02:15:37.000 Everything you ever say and everyone that is like you that is a conspiracy theorist, and I do categorize Conspiracy theorists who relish the word!

02:15:46.000 You don't have any intellectual acumen, any gravitas, you just have a label so you can, your mind, can decide snobberishly to say that I don't have documentation.

02:15:57.000 Let me stop right there, let me stop right there.

02:16:00.000 What was the point you're saying?

02:16:01.000 How can I say?

02:16:02.000 Did you not hear me?

02:16:03.000 May 25th, 2010, Washington Post, the CIA, admits that they created fake Bin Laden videos.

02:16:12.000 So a group that has created fake videos...

02:16:15.000 That's what you've said, yeah?

02:16:16.000 So the fact that you and your friends have made a video and put it on YouTube, that makes it... You're showing who the conspiracy theory is.

02:16:23.000 I just gave you the date and what to search, Washington Post, and you just...

02:16:30.000 And you just said it's going to be on YouTube.

02:16:33.000 I just told you, buddy boy, my source is not YouTube.

02:16:37.000 My source is what I just told you.

02:16:39.000 And when I say Steve Pachenek was on or Hamid Ghul was on, these are serious, well-known, respected people today agreeing with me.

02:16:49.000 You, hey, go ahead, listen, you can't handle the truth!

02:16:53.000 You can't handle real intellect and red blood! 1.00

02:16:57.000 All you've got is shooting your mouth off with that cliched term! 0.98

02:17:01.000 I'm not the king of conspiracy, I'm the king of reality! 0.93

02:17:04.000 Daniel, come back on that.

02:17:06.000 In 30 seconds.

02:17:07.000 I told you Washington Post, listen to me!

02:17:10.000 I bet you don't believe, I bet you don't believe that Geraldo Rivera was a Marines in Mid-Sacramento!

02:17:16.000 Alex, let Dan respond to that.

02:17:18.000 In general society, there is a very small sect of people that would be classed... You're a minority! 0.92

02:17:24.000 We're the majority! 1.00

02:17:25.000 Listen to your mind-control garbage! 1.00

02:17:27.000 I would class you in an extremist group that would account for not... I need to be dealt with immediately! 1.00

02:17:34.000 Listen to him!

02:17:34.000 He don't believe the Queen loves us!

02:17:37.000 I need to be shut down under the EU Convention on Spreading Radicalism! 0.99

02:17:44.000 Shut him up! 1.00

02:17:45.000 Shut him up! 1.00

02:17:46.000 I don't agree with him! 0.97

02:17:48.000 He's giving me too many facts!

02:17:49.000 It's scary!

02:17:50.000 He's an extremist!

02:17:51.000 He's a minority! 1.00

02:17:53.000 Oh, I'm a minority!

02:17:54.000 That's why my YouTube videos have millions of views apiece and 98% of people are voting that they like it!

02:18:01.000 That's why I have millions of listeners!

02:18:04.000 That's why I'm loved all over the world!

02:18:06.000 Because I'm a dangerous minority!

02:18:09.000 You listen to me!

02:18:10.000 Ideas are bulletproof and you cannot stop us!

02:18:13.000 Liberty is rising!

02:18:14.000 The spirit of 1776 is indomitable! 0.95

02:18:17.000 And you are a mind-controlled weasel who feels solace in joining the hive board of weak disinformation! 0.91

02:18:24.000 You are not the intellectual! 0.99

02:18:26.000 You are not the person to dictate to me what reality is!

02:18:30.000 Do you understand me, boy?

02:18:33.000 Do you understand me, boy?

02:18:35.000 Come on Alex, let's just make that clip out.

02:18:37.000 It's a really incredible battle between Alex and just the ideologically dense listeners who refuse to embrace the facts, look at the reality, factors like the fact that opium is more important than any supposed act of Osama Bin Laden.

02:18:56.000 In the real war on terror, so-called, in Afghanistan, opium and oil and geopolitics, that's what's really at play.

02:19:04.000 But more importantly, Alex makes the point that we are winning in reality because so much disinformation is put out by the system.

02:19:12.000 These mindless drones can't even face reality. 0.99

02:19:16.000 They try to belittle Alex, consider him to be a minority.

02:19:20.000 He's preaching hate speech.

02:19:21.000 He's a conspiracy theorist.

02:19:23.000 But really, Alex has always stuck by the facts.

02:19:25.000 He's been vindicated over the decades.

02:19:28.000 And so has everyone else who's been fighting in this war.

02:19:31.000 Just an incredible clip.

02:19:32.000 But it just goes to show, as this Bin Laden hoax is totally falling apart, we'll get into more of those details on the way back.

02:19:39.000 All about how they changed the story of what even happened during this supposed Bin Laden raid.

02:19:44.000 All part of the 9-11 fairy tale.

02:19:46.000 We'll be back.

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02:24:29.000 We are winning the resistance.

02:24:31.000 We're winning the InfoWar.

02:24:32.000 You just heard Alex on TalkSport in the UK, brushing aside the silly arguments from the host and from these callers, completely out of the real reality paradigm.

02:24:44.000 We don't know everything that's going on, but we are trying to follow the facts and break apart these lies.

02:24:50.000 Meanwhile, we have an Obama administration who's admittedly been given a difficult task because he's expected to continue all the lies and propaganda that were built up in the post 9-11 era by the Bush administration.

02:25:04.000 We know the whole thing is one big lie from saying they could never foresee the attacks coming, despite the fact that there were

02:25:12.000 Military drills with bin laden's face and the twin towers on the cover Despite the fact that they had intelligence reports the presidential PDB 51 briefing Declaring that bin laden was determined to attack despite that we saw Condoleezza Rice and Bush saying they never could have even imagined That something would happen Akin to 9-11 it's all a lie, but at the same time we have Obama with floundering ratings really trying to

02:25:42.000 entrench himself against a public that he surely sees as an enemy much in a Nixon Richard Nixon kind of way where he's just surrounded by enemies of one kind or another people challenging him to produce documents this is a man who said he's part of the most transparent administration of all time he He's anything but.

02:26:05.000 He's continued Guantanamo Bay.

02:26:08.000 He's continued harsh interrogations.

02:26:11.000 Obviously continued the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan while expanding into Libya.

02:26:16.000 And really it's hit a juncture where the al-Qaeda myth has to be rebranded.

02:26:20.000 There has to be a new set of rules for this war on terror.

02:26:25.000 I think the point came where they had to put Bin Laden to bed sooner or later, and it was a politically expedient time to hopefully bolster Obama's ratings. 0.52

02:26:34.000 We did see a jump, but it's already been going back down.

02:26:38.000 That is the approval for Obama, and he's really in this position where they've claimed a certain story without providing any evidence.

02:26:46.000 That is a known logical fallacy.

02:26:50.000 More or less referred to as appeal to authority.

02:26:52.000 He expects us to take everything on faith because they are the supposed authorities in government.

02:26:58.000 They will dictate reality.

02:26:59.000 That's everything Alex is speaking against in the rant we heard in the previous segment.

02:27:05.000 It just goes to show that here's the Atlantic Monthly, the slippery story of Bin Laden killed.

02:27:11.000 The early narrative of the assault on Osama Bin Laden and him using his wife as a human shield and firing from behind her.

02:27:18.000 Now we learn he wasn't even armed.

02:27:21.000 They've got a photo here of kind of a revised script that the White House said Tuesday they blame the fog of war for conflicting statements and recounting of the events of the Abbottabad raid that In fact, he was never even armed.

02:27:36.000 And that's if you even believe Osama bin Laden was even still living.

02:27:41.000 There were reports certainly of his death as early as December 2001. 0.63

02:27:47.000 Even if he wasn't dead, he was a very sick man.

02:27:49.000 Here's an article in...

02:27:51.000 From Washington blog, it's on Infowars.com, why didn't we capture the terrorist kingpin and interrogate him?

02:27:58.000 But we'll get into that point in just a minute.

02:28:00.000 But it brings up how he not only had the kidney dialysis problem, he very clearly had diabetes.

02:28:06.000 He could barely move the left side of his body.

02:28:09.000 Bin Laden had low blood pressure.

02:28:12.000 He had a wound in his foot.

02:28:15.000 He was flown to Dubai in an American hospital for treatment for 10 days for his kidney dialysis issues back in 2001-2002.

02:28:22.000 in 2001, 2002. He's suffering from hepatitis C.

02:28:28.000 He may have even had Marfan syndrome, a disorder of the connective tissue that would have given him back problems, heart conditions, the possibility for sudden death.

02:28:38.000 He may have been an ideological enemy, but this was not a person in any position to fire a weapon or quote-unquote resist.

02:28:47.000 They put forward the idea that they only killed bin Laden if indeed he was even in this compound because of supposedly resisting.

02:28:54.000 Then we see that story completely fall apart as a hoax.

02:28:57.000 He wasn't armed and he would have been a sickly old man if he was even in this compound.

02:29:02.000 Very unlikely that he would have been able to even wield a weapon.

02:29:07.000 But moreover, we have this whole false debate that Obama White House couldn't produce evidence.

02:29:13.000 There's a complete opposite of a trail of evidence because the photos would be upsetting because they had to bury him at sea according to Muslim cultural norms, which wasn't even true.

02:29:26.000 Why would they care about upsetting photos when they released Abu Ghraib?

02:29:30.000 American soldiers have desecrated the Koran.

02:29:33.000 And they completely disrespected the 9-11 families.

02:29:36.000 Wouldn't even dig up all the remains and properly bury them. 0.81

02:29:39.000 Instead, sent them to a trash heap. 0.99

02:29:42.000 It's complete hypocrisy. 0.99

02:29:43.000 We'll get more into it.

02:29:44.000 Alex Jones will also be joining us after this break.

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02:33:33.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

02:33:35.000 I'm Aaron Dyke sitting in, but we have Alex Jones on the line, and we've just been going through what a hoax this is, how it's falling apart, how Obama really is going to have egg on his face in just a few minutes, because this story doesn't add up.

02:33:49.000 They're completely conflicting, but let's go to Alex and see what he has to say.

02:33:53.000 Alex, are you there?

02:33:55.000 Yes, Aaron, it's great to be here with you.

02:33:58.000 I apologize to listeners that I'm not going to be in today or tomorrow, but we've all joked about the Murphy's Law over the years at the office that a few times a year I take off two or three days to take my children camping or fishing, that there's always a big, giant world event.

02:34:16.000 But I just want to say how proud I am of the fact that I've got such a wonderful team in Aaron Dykes and Paul Watson and Steve Watson and Curt Nemo and Jaron and Marley and Matt and all the other great folks in the office, all the rest of the team, and just the amazing research and how on target you guys have been.

02:34:37.000 I am meant to be where I was going by the time I was supposed to call, but I got out of the house early this morning going out to this cabin to do some fishing.

02:34:46.000 And so I'm doing this here from a side of the road at a rest stop, but I'll join folks for most of the last hour tomorrow from a landline because obviously there's no rest for those of us that live in reality, that live in the real world, countering those that are attempting to force the landline.

02:35:03.000 A false reality on us to break our will and train us just to accept surreal levels of government intrusion and propaganda and disinformation designed to be ridiculous.

02:35:16.000 Because once people buy into a ridiculous lie, now their threshold is higher and higher for what could ever wake them up.

02:35:27.000 And this is a serious psychological Warfare tactic that they're engaging in.

02:35:32.000 Dr. Webster-Tarpley agreed with me yesterday that this is, uh, they're, they're putting out all these little pieces of, okay, uh, we didn't kill a bear and he didn't shoot at us, so he didn't put his wife in front of us.

02:35:44.000 And, you know, they've got that tinker toy stealth helicopter.

02:35:47.000 We were sitting around the office saying, what does this look like yesterday?

02:35:49.000 I said it's clearly a stealth helicopter, probably a remote control.

02:35:53.000 They flew in there with incendiaries in it to explode it. 0.99

02:35:57.000 I said, then again, add to the whole, "Oh, look, it's there!" But the telltale signs that it did come out, it's a stealth helicopter, drone, obviously.

02:36:05.000 We know they've had those.

02:36:07.000 They had the B-2 bomber for 25 years.

02:36:09.000 They've told us about it.

02:36:11.000 That itself is just a front tinker toy for the real things they've got in the late 1970s.

02:36:17.000 Dr. Bob Bowman has confirmed this only because it leaped once.

02:36:21.000 It was highly classified.

02:36:22.000 He didn't get to talk about it.

02:36:24.000 There is over, when he was head of Star Wars in the late 70s, when it was still a secret program, there is over, over, 100, and this was again in 1979, stealth robotic space drones with

02:36:41.000 Sabo DU Meteor gun weapons and basically just takes the meteor system and and similar to a meteor coming in at 30,000 miles an hour by the time it accelerates over accelerates it with boosters over 40,000 miles an hour and is a decapitation weapon it doesn't have a nuclear explosion but the kinetic energy is similar to a low yield has incredible penetration power and can destroy cases one mile under the largest mount so let's understand folks

02:37:11.000 There's an entire secret military, an entire secret giant system, and as I called it before anybody else did, just because I understand the enemy, the globalistic scientific dictatorship of folks, Kim trailing us every day, giant secret program, now partially declassified, the very same system Uh, that is putting fluoride in our water for 60 years.

02:37:30.000 Now, admittedly, the brain damages from reduced fertility.

02:37:33.000 The same system with GMOs, the crops.

02:37:35.000 In every case, it has the, quote, side effect of reducing fertility.

02:37:38.000 There's a giant scientific dictatorship overlaid via the national security state with global standardization.

02:37:48.000 That is taking place.

02:37:49.000 Now, continuing, getting into the Bin Laden information.

02:37:53.000 Ladies and gentlemen, when I came out Sunday night and said it was a spy op, it's because I knew Bin Laden had died at least nine years before. 0.52

02:38:00.000 It was because I've known from top sources they were going to roll him out of the politically expedient time.

02:38:05.000 We were on record before.

02:38:06.000 It was The way he came out, the way he delivered it, the way that they were already trying to menace Pakistan, hundreds of other points, and then on Monday, we came out.

02:38:16.000 It's not that we're just saying everything's a conspiracy, or that National Media TV, you name it, asked me.

02:38:22.000 Well Alex, I mean, you're not alone with the conspiracy.

02:38:24.000 This is a conspiracy.

02:38:25.000 This is part of the 9-11 line.

02:38:27.000 This is part of the clash of civilizations.

02:38:30.000 This is part of this entire system that's meant to overthrow our classic and basic canons of a free society in the name of them protecting us.

02:38:41.000 But think about the hoax.

02:38:43.000 Even if you believe the terror is real, you've got a better chance of dying in a skateboarding accident.

02:38:49.000 There's hundreds of those a year.

02:38:50.000 You've got a better chance of dying in sports accidents.

02:38:53.000 There are more than 50 deaths a year in football at all levels, public school, college, and then up to NFL.

02:39:01.000 I mean, do we have checkpoints for that?

02:39:03.000 I noticed right after it happened, they said, see, we're going to take more of your rights now. 0.98

02:39:07.000 You've got to have locally trained people in all your malls.

02:39:10.000 We already have the TSA PSAs put out three months ago to local police that they're now going to train police and have a TSA manager in the mall.

02:39:18.000 We have the video of the TSA already in the malls.

02:39:21.000 They're getting us ready for the total takeover of society.

02:39:25.000 And so we know it's all part of a larger continuity.

02:39:27.000 But remember, we came out...

02:39:31.000 Sunday, and then on Monday, and said that's obviously a stage photo that was Hillary putting her hand over her mouth. 1.00

02:39:36.000 She's had to respond now, saying she just, you know, had allergies or whatever, or was coughing.

02:39:41.000 But she's obviously, it's all scripted, they all got it to look a certain way, and that's not how those situation rooms work.

02:39:49.000 And then Dr. Pacinic, who worked in things like that area, said it was fake.

02:39:53.000 On Tuesday, on Wednesday, now it comes out that it is completely fake.

02:39:58.000 They've had to admit that.

02:39:59.000 The entire thing is a lie.

02:40:01.000 Dumping the body in the ocean, lie.

02:40:04.000 All of it, lie, lie, lie.

02:40:05.000 One of his daughters captured at the compound, held by Pakistani intelligence.

02:40:09.000 They can tell us Mickey Mouse was captured there.

02:40:11.000 The guy had scores of concubines, at least, what, four or five wives.

02:40:16.000 The whole family is British, Assad, and U.S. 0.78

02:40:19.000 intelligence on record, triple agents, biggest construction company in the Middle East.

02:40:25.000 It's exclusive contracts in major nations to build U.S.

02:40:29.000 bases, of major partners, of third biggest owners, Queen of England, George Bush Sr., and then the Bin Laden's, the Carlyle Group.

02:40:36.000 London Guardian, September 12th, they were meeting at a private Carlyle meeting in D.C.

02:40:41.000 on September 11th.

02:40:43.000 On and on and on and on and on.

02:40:46.000 I mean, folks, why do you think it came out in major news the day after 9-11 that an Air Force base in Nebraska, Berkshire Hathaway head Warren Buffett, the day before, had told everybody they had to be there in a hangar for a secret meeting, and he got the Fortune 100 leaders there in a private meeting to lay down the law to them about what had just happened.

02:41:10.000 This is a strategic operation where they do something so criminal So obvious.

02:41:14.000 They want people that are awake to know it was an inside job.

02:41:17.000 That's why they blow the buildings up on purpose.

02:41:19.000 That's why Larry Silverstein tells you he blew up Building 7 so that those that are awake are horrified of these criminals.

02:41:25.000 It's anti-mafia intimidation.

02:41:27.000 Hey, we're the mafia.

02:41:28.000 We'll get you.

02:41:28.000 But to further condition those they know will buy into the lie.

02:41:33.000 This is the key to the overall psychological warfare grid that they are engaged in, and that's what they're doing with this current event.

02:41:45.000 So it's to resuscitate Obama's plunging.

02:41:48.000 It's to launch a new era of al-Qaeda. 0.99

02:41:51.000 It is also a system so that they can prepare to hype up more fear, introduce the four new leaders of al-Qaeda, three of which are all born in the U.S., two of which on record completely work for U.S.

02:42:06.000 intelligence, Adam Gadahn and Amr Allalaf, totally admitted.

02:42:09.000 We've sourced all that.

02:42:13.000 And it is basically, also, of course, as I said, to menace Pakistan. 1.00

02:42:21.000 Yeah, Alex, we're hearing just a bit of phone noise.

02:42:24.000 But doesn't the president know he's just a puppet for this false system?

02:42:29.000 Why do we see him so personally engaged in worrying about what conspiracy theorists will say, claiming the photo's fake?

02:42:37.000 We've seen the public push back against the TSA, against the 9-11 fable.

02:42:41.000 People want evidence.

02:42:42.000 They want justified policy, not these oppressive continuity of agenda.

02:42:47.000 Why is the president taking this so personally and speaking out against people like you who've been breaking apart this fraud for so long?

02:42:55.000 Well, Aaron, do I need to reconnect to you?

02:42:57.000 Because I'm sorry I'm in the middle of nowhere.

02:42:59.000 I think it sounds a little better, but we just heard a couple of cut-ins and outs, so I would go ahead.

02:43:07.000 I want everybody to listen to me very, very carefully.

02:43:10.000 This is a war over truth and a war over reality, as Hillary said, an info war.

02:43:15.000 They are scripting it to where they say the sky is red, you say it's blue, you're an evil conspiracy theorist and anti-American.

02:43:24.000 This is about selling people to accept whatever bizarreness they push on us.

02:43:30.000 It's all about breaking our will.

02:43:31.000 That's what TSA and the molestation is about.

02:43:34.000 That's what all the surveillance is about.

02:43:36.000 That's what trying to kiss a smile on their parents is about.

02:43:39.000 It's about being over the top.

02:43:41.000 And what's happening is they've got a 9% approval rating in Congress.

02:43:45.000 The president has no credibility.

02:43:46.000 The system is in crisis.

02:43:49.000 And they are basically floundering because most of the calls I hear to talk radio now have shifted to people really waking up and questioning, and so they are trying to come out and ridicule... Listen, Aaron, how's the phone coming in now?

02:44:06.000 Yeah, you're fine.

02:44:07.000 It was just a couple things earlier.

02:44:09.000 As you know, we left work at 9 o'clock last night, and you and I and all the IT guys went to have dinner.

02:44:15.000 When I got in the car at 10.30 at night, I did what I always do.

02:44:20.000 I surf Dallas, Austin, Houston, San Antonio, Waco radio stations.

02:44:25.000 Now this happened.

02:44:28.000 I hit the first button to a local station during a syndicated show of a guy I've never heard of.

02:44:35.000 Last name Doyle.

02:44:37.000 Uh, one looked him up, he's a pretty big syndicate, he's got like 150 stations.

02:44:40.000 He was saying, I have attacked him.

02:44:42.000 That's why people are listening, it's a sign-off.

02:44:43.000 I think I deserve to have what's said about me said.

02:44:46.000 Not to know who the guy was, but I heard him.

02:44:48.000 Uh, or maybe someone ran a sign-off on him.

02:44:51.000 They went on and talked about how dangerous and despicable and evil I was, and how we're nuts, and how we, you know, we're putting out distractions from our real problem, Propeller Reserve.

02:45:03.000 Funny, those guys would talk about Propeller Reserve years ago, but now all the big mainline conservatives do, because we're always pushing the envelope towards reality as the establishment tried to drag it into La La Land.

02:45:15.000 And it went on and on, and I shouldn't be the talker's keynote person, and he didn't know, and he should boycott it.

02:45:20.000 Good, I don't care.

02:45:21.000 I don't even need to go to that.

02:45:22.000 I hope you guys boycott it and make a big stink out of it.

02:45:24.000 I don't want to travel to New York.

02:45:25.000 I mean, I'm happy they invited me and want me to be there, but hey, listen, I don't... It's all about the gatekeeping.

02:45:30.000 I wanted to shut somebody up.

02:45:32.000 Shut somebody up. 0.93

02:45:33.000 That's what that guy, that caller in England was saying. 0.60

02:45:35.000 You know, you're spreading A, you need to be shut down. 0.99

02:45:37.000 That's their response to us.

02:45:39.000 You saw the Pittsburgh Gazette saying, shut up Alex Jones.

02:45:42.000 That was the headline. 0.99

02:45:43.000 Topper Conspiracy Theorist said, shut up. 0.99

02:45:46.000 Alex Jones is dangerous, shut him up. 0.99

02:45:49.000 Because they can't deal with it.

02:45:52.000 Everything we talked about four or five days ago, that Sunday night, has now come true, been proven, because we're following the globalist roadmap.

02:46:00.000 We understand their programs.

02:46:03.000 I hit the, this is insane.

02:46:05.000 I listened for about five minutes to this rant going into break.

02:46:07.000 I think I'm not even going to listen to it because I'm not even into hearing about people talk about me.

02:46:11.000 I'm all over TV, radio, other shows.

02:46:13.000 You guys know 90% of the time I don't even go look at it, read it.

02:46:16.000 I didn't even read the whole Rolling Stone article I was in.

02:46:18.000 I didn't even read the entire New York Magazine.

02:46:21.000 I only watched myself on the Nightline once.

02:46:25.000 I'm not into it.

02:46:26.000 I'm into information.

02:46:27.000 But, so I said, I'm not going to listen to any more of this.

02:46:30.000 I'm going to get some information, see what else is happening.

02:46:32.000 I want to know the feel.

02:46:33.000 I hit the button.

02:46:34.000 I go to a Dallas radio station.

02:46:37.000 Big show.

02:46:38.000 They're attacking me.

02:46:40.000 On the same talking points, Aaron, then I tuned in my 30-minute drive home, through a couple more stations, and heard them saying, who are these crazy conspiracy theorists that don't buy it? 0.59

02:46:50.000 They're bad.

02:46:51.000 Torture's good.

02:46:52.000 This proves torture's good.

02:46:54.000 You know, basically the talking points.

02:46:55.000 And then I dialed and found another syndicated show attacking me.

02:47:00.000 It was insane.

02:47:02.000 So we have hit such a sight, guys, with the truth.

02:47:04.000 The globalists are only thinking they can get away with more, more, more, killing Kennedy in broad daylight, blowing up the towers in front with everybody in broad daylight getting away with it.

02:47:13.000 But they've overreached and this thing is a chain reaction and they can't kill me because that'll just give us more credibility.

02:47:20.000 If they set us up, nobody believes them anymore and makes us a martyr.

02:47:23.000 They are losing and they've got all their minions and attack dogs coming after Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com

02:47:31.000 This is so big, I probably should be able to left town, but you guys are doing just a fabulous job, but I mean, I can't believe I'm in the middle of history like this, and all my listeners are, that we literally are carrying the banner of truth, of real investigation, of real facts, of trying to understand the truth, trying to be honorable, trying to really do the research, and we're just proving it right over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, and the system is in Total panic.

02:47:58.000 And that's why everywhere, the left, the right, the entire establishment is showing themselves because they need this new 9-11. 0.64

02:48:06.000 And this is the final point.

02:48:08.000 Because they are gauging.

02:48:09.000 This is all a trial balloon.

02:48:11.000 For a war on Pakistan, that's geopolitical from the international perspective, foreign policy.

02:48:18.000 But they're also looking at the false flag in the middle of this depression and rising gas prices and plunging stock markets and exploding commodities.

02:48:28.000 They are looking so the American people don't get mad and have a peaceful revolution, a restoration of the republic.

02:48:35.000 At this key point is to predict that they want wars and domestic terror.

02:48:40.000 And we, all of us, need to get the maximum word out.

02:48:43.000 And it's the listeners and the other info warriors and the other patriots that know about the New World Order, understand the real paradigm.

02:48:49.000 You are the vanguard.

02:48:51.000 You are the leaders of the 21st century.

02:48:53.000 You are so important at this crossroads.

02:48:55.000 They can kill us individually.

02:48:57.000 They can demonize us individually.

02:48:59.000 But they can't stop these ideas.

02:49:02.000 And as the great French philosopher Victor Hugo said, no army can stop an idea whose time has come.

02:49:08.000 Or as V for Vendetta, the statement from V, ideas are bulletproof.

02:49:12.000 I'm just made out of flesh and blood, bleeding to death.

02:49:15.000 The farmer gets the bad guys.

02:49:16.000 But ideas, ideas are bulletproof.

02:49:19.000 And that's the message.

02:49:20.000 You've got to go 110% We are making history on the side of good.

02:49:24.000 If we beat these people, our ancestors will literally use us as an example to fight the tyranny of their day because there's always evil people struggling against good.

02:49:33.000 The globalists are in full rout.

02:49:36.000 This is completely blown up in their face.

02:49:38.000 We are witnessing absolute, total history unfold, Aaron, and it is just so good to be alive, and I'm so blessed.

02:49:46.000 If I died today, I don't want to.

02:49:47.000 I love life so much.

02:49:48.000 The only thing I love more than life is my children and God.

02:49:51.000 But I'm here to tell you, if I died today, I died fulfilled, knowing I did the right thing.

02:49:56.000 I stood up for what was right.

02:49:57.000 I didn't buy the propaganda.

02:49:58.000 I was demonized and attacked nine and a half years ago going on the air saying it was an inside job.

02:50:03.000 I went on air before it happened to say it was coming, telling the target who they would blame because I could see what they were doing.

02:50:09.000 And we have the truth.

02:50:11.000 The truth has legs.

02:50:12.000 And as Tarpley said yesterday, lies have very short legs.

02:50:16.000 And when people who are good and know the truth and don't care about peer pressure stand up and tell it like it is, it's like that country song.

02:50:23.000 We ought to come back to the next segment.

02:50:25.000 I think it's Aaron Tippett with you got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything.

02:50:29.000 We ought to play a couple of minutes of that before you close out the show coming in.

02:50:33.000 And he talks about, you know what, daddy wasn't the most popular guy in town, but he always stood for what was right.

02:50:42.000 And if daddy would have sold out a little more, we'd have lived in a bigger house.

02:50:47.000 But we always had plenty.

02:50:48.000 And at the end of the day, daddy's son.

02:50:51.000 Okay, Alex, we're going to break.

02:50:52.000 We'll come back with those comments and the song.

02:50:56.000 You're absolutely right.

02:50:57.000 We're fighting for the reality.

02:50:59.000 They're fighting for lies.

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02:53:58.000 And we are back, but we want to let the song roll for just a minute.

02:54:17.000 I don't have the name in front of me.

02:54:20.000 Alex was, oh, it's a different.

02:54:22.000 Okay, we got the wrong cue over there.

02:54:23.000 We're going to try to play that song Alex was talking about tomorrow.

02:54:26.000 But Alex is absolutely right.

02:54:28.000 We're in a fight for the truth.

02:54:31.000 And we have the system who's just perpetuated by lies.

02:54:34.000 And we're in this battle over the truth.

02:54:37.000 We're fighting against literally the 1984 system of total deception on purpose, reverting the truth, spinning lies to become even deeper lies, fighting against a literal Emanuel Goldstein bin Laden myth, a guy they had on the shelf to roll out at any time, and now they've done so at a politically expedient moment.

02:54:59.000 Even though their story's falling apart, you see everyone attacking Alex Jones and the others who've really been Pointing out that the emperor is naked all along for all these years.

02:55:09.000 But of course, it's distracting from so much other important news.

02:55:12.000 The falling economy.

02:55:14.000 Gerald Salente wrote an interesting article today called, Bigger Than Bin Laden, America's New Public Enemy Number One.

02:55:22.000 Trying to put focus on Bernanke at the Fed and their very destructive policy.

02:55:27.000 Far more destructive than 9-11 or Bin Laden could have been. 0.94

02:55:31.000 While Obama grandstands, we have his allies like Bill Richardson saying killing Bin Laden means Obama can pass a climate bill.

02:55:41.000 Even deeper in the news today we have the Obama administration trying to put a tax on cars by the mile using an implanted electronic device in the car they say but then they spend that too and say actually this is not a policy but it'll be implemented after a two-year study but it's not a policy of the president or his administration but they will be putting trackers in your car for an even greater tax really restricting freedom of travel

02:56:09.000 Even more than any gas or highway tax could.

02:56:13.000 We have Obama.

02:56:16.000 We have the FDA, rather, claiming they can seize food without evidence of contamination.

02:56:20.000 Why not?

02:56:20.000 They don't have to offer proof of Osama Bin Laden's death.

02:56:24.000 The president's very bitter at having to prove his birth certificate.

02:56:28.000 Really seemed like a personal battle.

02:56:30.000 There's so much more to get into.

02:56:32.000 Prince Charles telling America it needs to cut down on steaks for the sake of the world after his family just had one of the most lavish weddings ever.

02:56:40.000 Uh, in history, and we have shocking stuff.

02:56:43.000 The falling apart of American society, Detroit, uh, nearly half of, uh, their people, 40 percent, excuse me. 0.81

02:56:54.000 47% of Detroiters are functionally illiterate.

02:56:57.000 I'm not reading too well myself, but it's just devastating statistics.

02:57:01.000 Everything that's being distracted by this big Obama-bin Laden lie. 0.60

02:57:06.000 But we must fight back against this system.

02:57:09.000 We will win the info war, and they can't hide the truth.

02:57:12.000 We meant to get to calls.

02:57:14.000 We'll have to get to them tomorrow.

02:57:15.000 Alex will be back on.

02:57:17.000 We'll hear even more from Alex on these just incredible unfolding events.

02:57:22.000 Where will they go from here?

02:57:23.000 How will they expand the war on terror?

02:57:26.000 Will there be a ground force in Libya?

02:57:29.000 A full-fledged war in Libya?

02:57:32.000 And we really hope World War III will not be the result of all this, but in some ways we see Pointing to that.

02:57:39.000 And of course we have security expanding because now soft targets have to be guarded.

02:57:45.000 Now checkpoints may be the norm at everywhere including grocery stores, malls.

02:57:50.000 But we know this.

02:57:50.000 This has already been rolled out by TSA since before the Bin Laden era.

02:57:55.000 We will get deeper into all these subjects and the rest of the news tomorrow.

02:58:00.000 Right now, we're headed out.

02:58:02.000 So, on the rebroadcast, Paul Joseph Watson, an incredible interview with Dr. Steve Pichesnik, former administration official, counterterrorism expert, really just laying down the gauntlet on the phony Bin Laden story.

02:58:18.000 Paul Craig Roberts, Steve Watson, and Alex Jones, all coming up in the rebroadcast.

02:58:23.000 I'm Aaron Dykes, and this is InfoWars.com.

02:58:27.000 Thank you.

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Alex Jones Show - May 05, 2011

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