Alex Jones Show - 20110512_Thu_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Welcome, my friends.

00:00:37.000 It is Thursday, the 12th day of May, 2011, and we're going to be here for at least the next three hours live.

00:00:47.000 Dr. Steve Pachinik, of course, first joined us last Tuesday after a nine-and-a-half-year respite from not being on this broadcast.

00:00:57.000 He is the co-author of many of Tom Clancy's books.

00:01:01.000 Also, one of the co-producers of several of the big films that you, of course, have seen released via the theater.

00:01:11.000 The whole Patriot Games series.

00:01:15.000 He is a psychiatrist.

00:01:16.000 He also has another medical degree.

00:01:18.000 On record, he wrote the psychological warfare manual for the State Department.

00:01:23.000 And the London Guardian, Associated Press and others report that he ran assassination squads, also carried out assassinations himself.

00:01:32.000 And the London Telegraph reports in the Italian government confirms that he was instrumental in ensuring that the Italian prime minister was not released by the Red Brigades, putting out the news reportedly that the Italian prime minister had already been killed by them, giving them no choice but to kill him.

00:01:50.000 I mean, that's psychological warfare.

00:01:52.000 A very, very high-powered individual.

00:01:56.000 Also, of course, breaking down here that Bin Laden was dying of Marfan's and total kidney failure sometime right after 9-11.

00:02:08.000 And then we saw a lot of other high-powered people come out and say the same thing.

00:02:11.000 Bob Baer of the CIA, Madeleine Albright, former Secretary of State, Theresa Hines Carey, Walter Cronkite, after we talked to Pchenik, and then I, of course, broke the news of two other White House sources inside the Bush administration that they were planning to roll him out.

00:02:30.000 Now, the former chief deputy of Secretary of State, Colin Powell, has come out on national TV last night and said that Bush didn't want bin Laden dead.

00:02:38.000 That is, he didn't want the myth of Bin Laden dead as a reason to continue the wars.

00:02:45.000 And people kept asking me, well, why wouldn't Bush roll out the dead body if he had it?

00:02:50.000 Well, they were thinking about it in 2004 election if they needed it, but his margin of victory was wide enough to not do that.

00:02:56.000 Plus, they stole a few key states, and then the fix was already in because his cousin and skull and bones buddy, Kerry, didn't challenge it.

00:03:05.000 But they were ready to roll it out, but Democrats came out and cried foul, so they didn't.

00:03:10.000 And that was part of the larger plan.

00:03:12.000 They were able to go along with their original plan to continue to use him as this boogie, this devilish boogie, flapping around in the night like a winged devil, that we could be menaced into giving up our liberty and completely overturning our once free societies in Western Europe and here in the United States and Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

00:03:35.000 Now, since that information has come out, there's been a big hit piece, MSNBC TV, and we have the text of that report.

00:03:47.000 New life for an old rumor was Bin Laden a Marfanoid. 0.62

00:03:54.000 And a Marfanoid, I guess, is the term they made up for someone that has the syndrome.

00:04:01.000 And they call up some of the heads of major universities, top doctors, experts on this syndrome, who had been on record back around 9-11 saying, this guy's a marfanoid, to use that term they're using, and they can only live a few years at that advanced stage, on top of full renal failure.

00:04:21.000 That's why Pchenik, who met Bin Laden even back in the 1980s, said the guy had trouble walking and looked very sick. 0.51

00:04:29.000 Uh, but hey, he's back.

00:04:30.000 I mean, you know, ten years later, hanging out, watching TV.

00:04:33.000 Uh, in a house, in a house, without dialysis equipment.

00:04:40.000 Living in what looks like a, uh, house that homeless people were squatting in, a crack house. 0.51

00:04:46.000 And inside the house with Bin Laden, again, were the Easter Bunny, unicorns, uh, minotaurs, cablers, pixies, Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone. 0.87

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00:08:12.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday, the 12th day of May, 2007. the 12th day of May, 2007.

00:08:32.000 Dr. Steve Pachinik is going to be joining us coming up in the second and third hour today.

00:08:40.000 We're going to have open phones in the third hour for Dr. Pachinik for your questions or comments for him.

00:08:47.000 He hasn't been on with us since last Friday.

00:08:50.000 He's since been on Coast to Coast AM.

00:08:53.000 There have been scores of newspaper articles all over the world and here in the United States written about the interviews that Dr. Steve Pachinik, of course, co-author of some of Tom Clancy's books, co-producer of some of the films, State Department psychiatrist who wrote their book on modern psychological State Department psychiatrist who wrote their book on modern psychological warfare, also carrying out overthrow of foreign governments on record, and assassinations, both running assassination teams and, of course, being an assassin in his own right,

00:09:22.000 A very interesting person.

00:09:25.000 After this Bin Laden hoax blows over and the fight is still intensifying. 0.88

00:09:30.000 I want to have him back in the future just to talk about his interesting life, at least as much of it as he can talk about.

00:09:37.000 He can only talk about what's been leaked into mainstream media over the years, but he is a very authoritative source for us.

00:09:46.000 And what he said nine plus years ago on this broadcast, April 22nd, 2002.

00:09:54.000 Was backed up by subsequent statements of the Secretary of State, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, big insider Walter Cronkite, Theresa Hines-Carrie and others, that the body's been frozen on ice, ready to be rolled out, died of natural causes sometime in, right after 9-11 in December is the best date they've got.

00:10:15.000 A few months before 9-11, it's on record, CBS News, Le Figaro in France, Der Spiegel in Germany.

00:10:21.000 The CIA visited him at the American Hospital in Dubai and that he met with them.

00:10:29.000 He's also being treated by American doctors for Marfan's and total kidney failure and long-term British MI6 family.

00:10:38.000 The Bin Laden's are the richest construction family in the Middle East worth tens of billions of dollars. 0.99

00:10:43.000 uh... and that they were uh... had their contracts roughly doubled in the three years after nine eleven for playing along with the whole game your son's been a great servant great cia asset against the russians uh... course the uh...

00:10:56.000 African country Sudan had him, wanted to turn him over in 1996.

00:11:01.000 That handover was refused.

00:11:03.000 Clinton didn't want him.

00:11:04.000 They're using Al-Qaeda to attack Qaddafi's forces.

00:11:06.000 That's admitted.

00:11:07.000 I mean, this is all hiding in plain view.

00:11:09.000 Adam Gaddan, grandson of the head of the ADL, arrested for beating up people outside mosque.

00:11:14.000 His real way to get Muslims and Arabs is to then go dress up like him. 0.99

00:11:18.000 You know, run around saying I'm a terrorist, bomb the Arabs. 0.99

00:11:22.000 I mean, it's just classic frame-up.

00:11:23.000 You've got Ammar al-Awlaki, admitted CIA, hanging out secretly at the Pentagon, continually Fox News AP.

00:11:29.000 So you've got all that background.

00:11:32.000 But in an article in MSNBC from a few days ago, new life for an old rumor was Bin Laden a Marfanoid.

00:11:42.000 And that's the name of someone who has this Marfan syndrome.

00:11:45.000 And they went and talked to all these top medical heads and university heads at one of the big medical centers where Pachinic was trained as well.

00:11:55.000 And they said, yeah, he had Marfan syndrome.

00:11:58.000 It was in the advanced, late stages.

00:12:01.000 And he had kidney failure, and there's no way he'd be alive.

00:12:04.000 I mean, this guy could hardly walk in 2001, according to witnesses.

00:12:09.000 He was hanging out under U.S. 0.53

00:12:11.000 care.

00:12:12.000 And I'll never forget Bandar Bush on Larry King Live a few weeks after 9-11, and Larry King says, Bin Laden, somebody ought to dig this up, I know listeners could do it, just Bandar Bush, that's his nickname, Prince Bandar of the House of Saud, if you want his full name, Bandar Saud, was on Larry King Live, and he goes, what do you say about this coward, Bin Laden?

00:12:33.000 And he goes, do not call him a coward!

00:12:35.000 He is a great warrior of great honor!

00:12:41.000 This was the Saudi Arabian ambassador to the U.S.

00:12:44.000 and Larry King Life said, okay, man of great honor, basically.

00:12:49.000 Because, see, the dual operation was he was this hero to the Middle East, this hero to Arabs and Muslims, at least the West was pushing him as that.

00:12:58.000 Saudi Arabia, which is the birthplace of Islam, has roughly 79% of Islamic faithful.

00:13:09.000 are the form of Islam that comes out of Saudi Arabia.

00:13:14.000 Another 20% are Shiite, and they hate each other worse than they dislike other regions and religions and groups. 1.00

00:13:21.000 I mean, this is just plain old tribalism.

00:13:23.000 They're absolutely at each other's throats.

00:13:25.000 Saudi Arabia is the third largest recipient of military aid from the U.S.

00:13:31.000 and the world.

00:13:33.000 And it's just a complete joke.

00:13:36.000 And so the strategic plan was to fire up and create Islamic resistance movements worldwide that could then be turned against the secular Arab governments to overthrow them. 0.65

00:13:49.000 This is a replay of 1953 Mohamed Mozadek Operation Ajax.

00:13:54.000 They used the Muslim extremist to overthrow the government, then they double-crossed them, put the Shah in, and then he started the mass arrest of those folks. 0.52

00:14:04.000 Then when the Shah wasn't being pliant, they brought in the same exiled Sons of the group they worked with in 53 out of France to overthrow the Shah, but then the Islamic Revolution double-crossed the CIA and took over the country for themselves. 0.72

00:14:26.000 They said you double-crossed us in 53.

00:14:29.000 They play along, Ayatollah Khomeini, and that's all on record.

00:14:34.000 But they were still big enough buddies with the West to say, give us the TOW missiles, give us the rockets, give us the weapons, give us the money and the gold, and then we'll give you the money back and our weapons that can't be traced to be sold to the guerrillas in Central and South America.

00:14:54.000 And that, of course, is the whole Iran-Contra situation.

00:14:59.000 And it just goes on and on and on from that point.

00:15:02.000 And this all came out in congressional hearings, so... This is all a bunch of double-dealing manipulation.

00:15:10.000 That's the...

00:15:13.000 Overview of what's happening.

00:15:14.000 And so the CIA goes to Bin Laden.

00:15:16.000 They say, you've done a super job.

00:15:18.000 Your family's going to be well taken care of.

00:15:20.000 We know you're here on your deathbed.

00:15:22.000 We're going to do a big event and blame it on you.

00:15:25.000 And we just want to get that straight with your family, everybody.

00:15:28.000 And the agreement was made.

00:15:29.000 Absolutely.

00:15:30.000 You're going to double our contracts from a billion a year to two, three billion.

00:15:33.000 Absolutely.

00:15:34.000 And then they got all the contracts to build all those new bases.

00:15:38.000 They built a lot of the new ones in Iraq, but all the new ones in Saudi Arabia and other areas.

00:15:42.000 They're the folks that air-conditioned Mecca decades ago in a multi-million dollar contract.

00:15:46.000 Outdoor air-conditioning at Mecca. 0.72

00:15:49.000 And they've just done a fabulous job.

00:15:51.000 They have a fabulous al-Qaeda job against the Serbs. 1.00

00:15:53.000 Serbs fight back.

00:15:54.000 NATO goes in and blows the daylights out of them.

00:15:57.000 They have al-Qaeda attack Qaddafi.

00:15:59.000 Qaddafi fights back.

00:16:02.000 The West goes in to back up al-Qaeda. 0.71

00:16:03.000 Same thing with the Russians in the 80s. 0.63

00:16:05.000 I mean, al-Qaeda is a dear, loved, trusted, carefully crafted, created organization.

00:16:11.000 But at another level, then they have the Al Qaeda patsies, where they can hype them up in the Middle East and get other people to join them, and then use them against governments like Qaddafi, use them against governments like Saddam. 0.74

00:16:22.000 They know our population is so dumbed down with terms and the players. 0.62

00:16:25.000 It's like telling you the Dallas Cowboys are the... 0.95

00:16:29.000 You know, San Diego chargers.

00:16:31.000 It's just no connection to reality that they tell you.

00:16:35.000 Saddam's with Al-Qaeda.

00:16:36.000 He launched the attacks.

00:16:37.000 Bin Laden's in Iraq. 0.85

00:16:39.000 Here's the derelict beached aircraft that they're training in.

00:16:43.000 And then they get there and it's not true.

00:16:45.000 And mobile weapons labs, anthrax attacks, they blamed on Saddam.

00:16:48.000 I mean, it's just all lies.

00:16:50.000 We've got a new video out that's up on InfoWars.com that is the total Proof, the total 15-minute boil-down proof that this entire Bin Laden situation is a manifest fraud and hoax. 0.79

00:17:07.000 And the reason this is so important, and the reason we've been spending so much time on this hoax, is you see the 13-point bounce for Obama.

00:17:17.000 And now with that political capital, he wants the total TSA takeover of all society.

00:17:22.000 And we got the new bill from Chuckie Schumer today to quote, federalize local police to make them the goon force at all the train stations, bus stations, and highways.

00:17:31.000 Now, how did I know that was coming?

00:17:33.000 I saw Governor Ridge almost nine years ago talk about it in a two-hour speech, but then I also saw the beta testing in every major state of the union with TSA Over local state police and local police, along with National Guard a lot of times, or regular Army Marines.

00:17:51.000 I've seen it where more than 14 different agencies are together in Tennessee.

00:17:55.000 Normally it's just two or three.

00:17:56.000 And people are there to get on the train or the bus and they just say, line up, hands down, pants.

00:18:00.000 Naked body scanners are driven in in trucks.

00:18:03.000 We've played the newscast here out of Florida, New York.

00:18:07.000 Upstate New York, rural roads, they've got huge total car scanners, National Guard out there, 2,000 arrests for guns and drugs in 2010 alone, according to Fox News, interviewing the Army.

00:18:20.000 So, this is all about launching the total domestic takeover, getting cybersecurity passed, it's already in place, to hijack all electronic devices, radio, TV, cell phones, home devices, all pre-designed to be jacked into and surveil you.

00:18:34.000 They can also then turn them off and control you.

00:18:37.000 Basically, everything's gonna be like the smart meters, which I was looking up that last night.

00:18:41.000 All over the country, people have seen massive increases in their energy prices with the smart meters.

00:18:46.000 I guess it was Enron came up with the idea back in the mid-90s as a way to rip you And it doesn't matter.

00:18:53.000 It's just total crime, total crime syndicates. 1.00

00:18:55.000 It's all about raping, raping people financially and breaking their will by having the hand stuck down the child's pants and your wife's breast groped and your genitals squeezed by some fat perv. 1.00

00:19:07.000 I mean, that's what America is. 1.00

00:19:10.000 In fact, the American flag ought to be a pot bellied pervert with a mullet in a TSA uniform grabbing a woman's breast. 0.99

00:19:18.000 That should be the American flag is a woman crying. 1.00

00:19:21.000 And the TSA guy's got his hand on her breast and then his hand down the woman's child's pants. 1.00

00:19:27.000 And land of enslavement, land of humiliation, land of being ripped off, land of chumps, land of schmucks, land of suckers, land of idiots, people that love it, that love to be driven into the ground, that love to be dumbed down, that love to have poison put in their water and cancer viruses in their vaccine. 1.00

00:19:45.000 I mean, just a servile group begging for scientific dictatorship to run them over. 1.00

00:19:50.000 And that's what this whole bin Laden situation is about. 0.98

00:19:54.000 The rollout of new stage terror attacks, new wars with Pakistan, total domestic enslavement, just absolute raping. 0.59

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00:24:20.000 Mother injects eight-year-old with Botox. 0.96

00:24:25.000 And these mothers dress their five, six-year-old girls up like whores in high heels and short miniskirts and paint them up with war paint. 1.00

00:24:33.000 Then they inject them so they don't get wrinkles. 0.96

00:24:38.000 You see, people don't value liberty and freedom and family and what's valuable.

00:24:42.000 The globalists force-feed us cultural death.

00:24:45.000 So when I say land of the slaves, home of the cowards, I'm talking about that 50% or so that believes all the propaganda. 0.94

00:24:56.000 That like the nanny state. 1.00

00:24:58.000 I'm talking about the close to 50% of Americans in major polls that believe guns are illegal.

00:25:03.000 And the types that call the police on their neighbor if they see them putting a gun in their car.

00:25:10.000 The type of people that routinely, I see it in the news all the time, I know you see it as well, call the police if they see a mother spat their son or daughter on the hind end at a Target or a grocery store parking lot.

00:25:25.000 Now the child's talking back, not doing what they're told, throwing a fit, mama gives them a few spats, they call the police, the police come, CPS come, they take you to jail, they take your kid. 0.55

00:25:35.000 It's not illegal!

00:25:38.000 In fact, they were trying, the Democrats were trying to pass a bill that to corporately punish Texas school children in the government training centers, that they would have to get parent sign-off permission, and the Republican legislature killed the bill.

00:25:54.000 Oh, you didn't know that they steal in public schools all over the country?

00:25:58.000 Take a big wooden board and pop you so hard with it, it leaves bruises?

00:26:03.000 By the way, I think it's a good idea.

00:26:05.000 Let me tell you something.

00:26:06.000 That was one of the things that made me behave myself in middle school and high school.

00:26:13.000 Of course, they learned that that didn't work, so they would run me, because I was also in the sports program.

00:26:19.000 They'd say, after school, you're going to meet me out at the track.

00:26:22.000 And they would run me until I threw up.

00:26:25.000 And that was the end of it.

00:26:26.000 But once they lose control of the youth, then they all act like a bunch of criminals, then they get tasered, they go to prison.

00:26:34.000 You must have discipline.

00:26:37.000 Just like dog training or anything else.

00:26:40.000 Now, I'm torn, though, on the issue of the school not having to ask permission.

00:26:49.000 Because I do believe in corporal punishment.

00:26:52.000 But at the same time, why would the Republicans say that parents shouldn't be able to make that decision?

00:26:58.000 I mean, if the child's out of control, they're just expelled.

00:27:00.000 That's the end of it.

00:27:03.000 And these schools are out of control, which is part of the social engineer's plan.

00:27:08.000 They knew full well with Dr. Spock and all those children's books they put out for parents 50 years ago that it was going to cause societal breakdown.

00:27:16.000 That's always been the plan.

00:27:18.000 They didn't want the parents putting their values into the children.

00:27:21.000 They wanted parents to stand back, let your kid be themselves, not so they'd be themselves, but so the television set and the public school could indoctrinate them with the new values.

00:27:33.000 of anti-gun, anti-liberty, anti-private property, low test scores.

00:27:39.000 That's why they've gotten rid of many test scores.

00:27:41.000 They've gotten rid of the A+, the E for excellence.

00:27:45.000 They've gotten rid of the dodgeball. 0.99

00:27:46.000 They've gotten rid of all of it because they're being turned into domesticated, cowardly, spoiled, rotten ninnies. 1.00

00:27:57.000 But that itself is a side issue. 0.99

00:28:00.000 It is not illegal to spank your children. 0.99

00:28:04.000 It is illegal to break their wrist.

00:28:06.000 It is illegal to punch them in the nose, because that's assault.

00:28:11.000 But they put out this mass hoax that it's illegal to spank your children, where then people are even afraid to.

00:28:18.000 And then their children are out of control, and run out into traffic and get run over.

00:28:24.000 You see, you can intellectually try to reason with children, but at a certain point, they have to be disciplined.

00:28:30.000 The third time they try to stick their finger in the light socket, The third time they walk over to the stove and try to stick their hand in the flame?

00:28:37.000 That's what two-year-olds do.

00:28:40.000 The third time they do it, you've got to whack them on the hand so they understand.

00:28:43.000 When you do that, it causes pain.

00:28:46.000 Do you understand?

00:28:48.000 My wife took piano when she lived in Madrid for four years from a very famous piano teacher.

00:28:57.000 I'm going to say the name, very famous.

00:29:01.000 And her family was able to get her in there because of connections in music.

00:29:07.000 She has some family, they're a concert pianist and violinist.

00:29:10.000 They were able to get her in, but the woman would beat her hands, and this is when my wife was a teenager, would beat her hands with a yardstick, and sometimes beat them bloody, when she made mistakes, because that's just how everybody was taught to play piano, going back, you know, 500 years.

00:29:28.000 Of course, and I'm not even saying that is a good thing overall, but that's what produced Concertmasters, is that you're making mistakes, your brain is gonna find a way to do it right, and when you make a mistake, whack!

00:29:41.000 Whack! 1.00

00:29:42.000 Whack! 1.00

00:29:43.000 The point is, it works.

00:29:44.000 The system knows that. 0.97

00:29:46.000 Now, they teach you not to discipline, but then they taser you or stomp your brains out when you're a spoiled, rotten teenager. 0.96

00:29:51.000 We're on the march. 0.93

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:17.000 Steve Pachanek joining us to cover the fake bin Laden videos they've released.

00:33:22.000 Four of the five, admittedly, old videos already released.

00:33:26.000 They just cut in new color backgrounds behind them.

00:33:30.000 But it's the exact same video.

00:33:32.000 It would have been too obvious if they released the audio with it, because he'd be saying the exact same thing.

00:33:36.000 So they just cut the audio out.

00:33:39.000 They've now shown Senator Inhofe some of the fake photos of Bin Laden, or it might have even been his frozen body, there's no telling, shot up, on board a Navy ship.

00:33:51.000 And I thought about creating a fake Bin Laden death photo. 0.66

00:33:58.000 In fact, I think I'm going to announce it here.

00:34:00.000 And then we'll put a YouTube video out saying Ben Laden, dead Ben Laden photo released.

00:34:05.000 It'll be like a one minute YouTube and we'll show the photo and say, oops, sorry, my Photoshop guy made it.

00:34:11.000 See how easy it is for the government to lie to you, but they won't even show it to you.

00:34:16.000 I think I'll do that as an educational tool.

00:34:20.000 uh... for folks uh... but uh... members of congress see photos of osama bin laden's dead body yes and uh... other mythical creatures uh... here's the big news that pachinko's also going to talk about with us top doctor confirms bin laden had marfan syndrome that's prison planet dot com and infowars dot com msnbc hit piece unwittingly reveals cooperation for doctor steve r pachinko's assertion Osama died in 2001.

00:34:47.000 We're going to be breaking all of that down.

00:34:51.000 And here is that MSNBC article for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

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00:34:59.000 Was Bin Laden a Marfanoid?

00:35:02.000 By Jonel Alika, I think you pronounce it, the health writer.

00:35:08.000 So there you have it.

00:35:09.000 We're going to be going over that.

00:35:11.000 And I produced a special video that Aaron Even though I ordered him not to do it, spent two days up editing and putting together with documentation for every claim I make.

00:35:22.000 It is extremely powerful video and it's up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now is the top story.

00:35:31.000 We need to get this out to everyone.

00:35:34.000 Proof Bin Laden death, another government lie.

00:35:37.000 Proof Bin Laden death, another government lie.

00:35:41.000 And again, why is this so important?

00:35:43.000 Because the White House advisors, Robert Shapiro and others, last year in the Financial Times of London and other publications, other top advisors, and Glenn Beck even talked about this, came out and said, we need a new Oklahoma City to blame on domestic groups and a new 9-11 to make the President look strong.

00:36:02.000 He needs to look like he can protect this and be decisive and get things done.

00:36:05.000 And attacks also maybe will rally around him.

00:36:09.000 So without that, his agenda is dead.

00:36:10.000 He will not be re-elected.

00:36:12.000 They went on to say Bill Clinton had a 40% approval rating.

00:36:15.000 It went to 61 to 63, depending on which poll you looked at.

00:36:19.000 Gallup USA Today, 63, 61.

00:36:22.000 Right before the election, and Bill Clinton told reporters on Air Force One after his re-election, he said, I owe it to Oklahoma City bombing.

00:36:29.000 It brought us together.

00:36:30.000 Yeah, the Hitler blowing up the Reichstag, firebombing it, brought the Germans together too.

00:36:37.000 Hitler staged attack on their own military base at Gleiwitz on the Polish border.

00:36:41.000 Brought the Germans together to attack Poland. 0.98

00:36:44.000 As if a 19th century military would attack the Germans.

00:36:50.000 But hey, it was fun!

00:36:51.000 It's fun to gang up on people in caves that you know.

00:36:54.000 are easy to beat.

00:36:55.000 It's fun to gang up on the Poles when the Germans had the most modern military. 0.99

00:37:00.000 It's fun to stomp on some people and blow up their cities because after all they attacked our basic Llywoods. 1.00

00:37:05.000 Of course, declassified, it didn't happen.

00:37:08.000 Totally fake, but it's fun.

00:37:10.000 It's fun.

00:37:11.000 It's fun to be conned.

00:37:13.000 So, they're getting ready to launch new wars against Pakistan. 0.54

00:37:16.000 You see that saber-rattling intensifying.

00:37:18.000 New reports out of the government plans to seize the nuclear weapons by invading their military bases.

00:37:24.000 Told you that was coming months ago.

00:37:25.000 Because it's all following a script.

00:37:29.000 It's a nice smoke screen for all the other wars they're launching and the attempt at overthrow of Syria that's intensifying into month number two right now.

00:37:35.000 Our media says, oh the government, it's illegal to try to kill Gaddafi, who made deals with them six years ago and gave up his WMDs.

00:37:44.000 They're not trying to kill him.

00:37:45.000 They just keep bombing all of his homes every day.

00:37:48.000 They thought he was dead for a week, they said, and then he popped back up on TV, and so within minutes they tried to bomb the facility he was in.

00:37:57.000 Oh, but then they lie to us.

00:37:58.000 We're not trying to assassinate him. 1.00

00:38:00.000 No, we just bomb everywhere he is and keep killing members of his family. 0.99

00:38:04.000 And Al-Qaeda is the core group. 0.98

00:38:08.000 And the leaders of the Al-Qaeda were people who were at black sites for years.

00:38:12.000 They grab these people as double agents.

00:38:14.000 They train them.

00:38:16.000 It turns out that's what Camp X-Ray is.

00:38:17.000 They kind of have a public camp for the 14 and 15 year olds that the CIA admits they grabbed who were innocent out of Afghanistan and Yemen and other places.

00:38:25.000 But then they've got internal camps that are really training centers where they psychologically evaluate people, find out who they want to use.

00:38:34.000 Send those they want to kill to European or Egyptian black sites, and the others get recruited, then get sent to Laney for training, and then get dispatched. 0.76

00:38:42.000 I mean, and it's all public!

00:38:43.000 That's how totally ruthless and totally dark these people are.

00:38:48.000 And so that's why we've got to expose the Bin Laden fable, because it attempts to back up the original 9-11 outside job fable. 0.84

00:38:58.000 Right as they push the total media takeover grid, the internet and cell phone and TV radio takeover switch, the Cybersecurity Act, now in the defense bill.

00:39:09.000 They're trying to pass as we speak.

00:39:11.000 It's now been attached as a rider.

00:39:13.000 As they go ahead and flip the switches, the grid's already in place.

00:39:17.000 Why?

00:39:17.000 Because the Fortune 100 and the top five or six telecoms are owned by the big megabanks that own and run our government through fraud, and so the government comes and gives them mandated billions a year as part of the Telecommunications Acts.

00:39:30.000 that are reauthorized every year to put in the hubs, put in the equipment, put in the systems.

00:39:36.000 FCC comes in with regulations to put the spy takeover chips in all the cell phones, all the computers.

00:39:42.000 Now all the new appliances rolling out have all the spy chips, where data over power line goes into the plug-in socket that has a chip now on all new major appliances that turn the device into a surveillance system.

00:39:55.000 Oh, don't believe me?

00:39:57.000 Yesterday's headline, please put it on screen.

00:39:59.000 Google wants to take over your house. 0.63

00:40:02.000 And they say, yes, we're now going to dial into all of your appliances.

00:40:06.000 And even if you don't have the newest appliances, they will access your computer with the new fluorescent bulbs with data over power lines.

00:40:14.000 They can send data.

00:40:15.000 They've been doing it for 20 years over power lines.

00:40:17.000 Now they're transmitting over all major power line systems.

00:40:20.000 It sends a controlled signal.

00:40:22.000 Off of switching boxes in your area, down it goes into the flickering fluorescent.

00:40:30.000 Now law, you must have them.

00:40:31.000 The fluorescent then, at an ultra-fast movement, flashes code, similar to Morse code, at your computer.

00:40:39.000 And now all the major operating systems have these built in for your computer to be remotely accessed and controlled.

00:40:46.000 There it is.

00:40:47.000 Google wants Android to take over your home with Android Home Metro.

00:40:51.000 Yeah, that's not the CNN.

00:40:52.000 Do me a favor.

00:40:53.000 Reprint me the CNN because I want to read their quotes for everybody where they say everything will be controlled by us.

00:40:59.000 Your garage door opener, your dishwasher, your laundry, everything will be surveilled.

00:41:05.000 This was always the plan.

00:41:06.000 But notice, it's not just that Google, the known NSA, CIA front, is doing this.

00:41:10.000 At the exact same time, all, globally, what the Japanese, Chinese, South Koreans make, what's made in the U.S., global standardization, same thing in Japan, same thing in Germany, same thing in England, same thing in Australia, global standardization, where all the devices are designed to be taken over by this system.

00:41:31.000 And the public schools are announcing, yes, we're watching your kids at home.

00:41:35.000 Oh, and also reprint me, because I know I gave the reports to Rob Jacobson and Dew, who are putting out some special reports on it, so it's not in my stack now.

00:41:43.000 The AP article about $2 million Department of Defense federal grant in San Antonio at one elementary.

00:41:51.000 And they tell you to help save food money, to decide what to feed the kids if they're being wasteful.

00:41:56.000 And it says it analyzes even a half-eaten pear, and everything's fine, and it's about your children's nutrition.

00:42:04.000 Department of Defense, Federal Grant, they care so much.

00:42:07.000 And I've seen reports all over the country, they have AI software hooked into cameras in the classrooms, in the bathrooms, recording all audio, putting it into digital databases, their voice print analysis of all of the children.

00:42:20.000 According to seating arrangements, the Children Write Reports on government-issued computers that is then put in a large database.

00:42:27.000 If you're doubting me on this, just look it up.

00:42:29.000 It's what the Kinect system, the Microsoft platform is, that can know up to 14 people's voices in the room in the house and follows your facial and body movements for the video game.

00:42:41.000 You then put your credit card info, your purchases, your internet surfing.

00:42:44.000 It only cost a few hundred dollars because as Bill Gates said eight years ago, we're going to take your home over with this.

00:42:50.000 And he spent seven years developing it and they rolled it out last year.

00:42:54.000 All of it is unified.

00:42:55.000 Unified devices that track and surveil and face print, it also face scans, voice print, everything.

00:43:02.000 Those systems are also rolling out in all of the public schools.

00:43:06.000 Children thumb scanning to get their school lunch, thumb scanning to get library books.

00:43:11.000 Parents being given ID cards, even being able to come get their kids.

00:43:14.000 They're being face scanned and enrolled.

00:43:17.000 Total system of absolute Big Brother takeover.

00:43:20.000 And it's bigger than the Manhattan Project globally.

00:43:23.000 Trillions of dollars to put this whole grid in.

00:43:26.000 Face scanning cameras, license plate reading cameras.

00:43:29.000 They've got biometric cameras, even if you're wearing a mask, that shoot through your clothes.

00:43:34.000 They get the body print.

00:43:35.000 When you go to the clothing stores that now have body scanners for quote better fitting, that's been sold to the feds.

00:43:40.000 The body scanners in the malls, going in also at the airports.

00:43:45.000 I told you that 10 years ago.

00:43:46.000 Last year they admitted that yes, they are saving the body scans and getting a 360 biometric scan of the body at the airport.

00:43:52.000 That's one of the main functions of the system.

00:43:55.000 Again, you think I'm joking.

00:43:56.000 This is the full spectrum, total takeover where they can turn off any devices they want, where they can surveil everything going on in your home, but even better, ripping you off.

00:44:05.000 In fact, people won't believe it.

00:44:07.000 I did some searching last night and found unlimited articles.

00:44:11.000 Power Company It was on PG&E, I think's the name.

00:44:16.000 Try this.

00:44:17.000 Power company admits smart meters overcharging.

00:44:21.000 Oh, it's an accident.

00:44:22.000 We doubled your prices.

00:44:25.000 Once the smart meter went in, they tell you it's going to save you money.

00:44:29.000 And they're going to control it.

00:44:30.000 But really, it's there to create the algorithms to track what's happening and rip you off.

00:44:35.000 And I know you're going to love it, because being ripped off is what people are into.

00:44:41.000 Because it's so much fun to get scared of Bin Laden.

00:44:43.000 It's so much fun to roll around in fear at night in a fetal position with your wife as you cry.

00:44:47.000 Bin Laden's going to get me! 0.92

00:44:50.000 TSA, stick your hands down my pants! 1.00

00:44:52.000 Give me cancer viruses in the shots! 0.99

00:44:54.000 Give me statin drugs that eat my brain! 0.87

00:44:56.000 Protect me!

00:44:57.000 Fluoride!

00:44:58.000 I want bone cancer! 0.52

00:44:59.000 I love fluoride! 1.00

00:45:00.000 Oh, I love being an idiot! 1.00

00:45:02.000 Oh, please teach my kids how to be spies against me! 1.00

00:45:04.000 Please make me a prisoner!

00:45:05.000 Oh, it's such land of the free, home of the brave to have 100,000 preachers now publicly trained to spy on their flocks!

00:45:10.000 Oh! 0.60

00:45:11.000 Oh, that movie Red Dawn, that fictional account, those kids are the bad guys, because in that movie the preacher's spying on everybody and so's the mayor!

00:45:18.000 That's what freedom is!

00:45:19.000 Oh, it's so good!

00:45:21.000 I mean, it's just off the charts sickening.

00:45:24.000 Here's Google.

00:45:25.000 CNN Money.

00:45:26.000 Google wants to control your home! 0.98

00:45:29.000 Plus, they won't believe it.

00:45:30.000 We pulled me up the AP article out of Minnesota.

00:45:33.000 There's also one out of Texas, where they have the flickering computer-controlled fluorescence that just so happened.

00:45:39.000 Other studies show that that can put you in a mesmerized state.

00:45:42.000 But again, everything they roll out has multi-faceted uses.

00:45:45.000 It doesn't just control your computer, it controls you.

00:45:48.000 Google wants to control your home.

00:45:51.000 And see, all these big corporations getting government contracts, they make money as they enslave you. 0.98

00:45:56.000 You pay to be enslaved.

00:45:58.000 And it's just rolled out as they drug our water, drug our food.

00:46:03.000 Every major GMO crop that comes out has the accidental side effect of reducing fertility and increasing cancer and bowel diseases all off the chart.

00:46:12.000 And we interview top genetic engineer scientists from Russia and England and the U.S.

00:46:16.000 on record who would be there and say, this potato is sterilizing the mice.

00:46:19.000 And they go, That's not an accidental trait.

00:46:22.000 Let's not discuss it.

00:46:23.000 But this is going to sterilize people.

00:46:25.000 There's too many people, doctor.

00:46:27.000 Come on, you know that. 0.98

00:46:28.000 I mean they're just savage weapon system attacking savaging everyone and the cops love it and the school teachers love it everybody's got their little petty power position everybody loves being killed and hurt and mutilated and attacked and brainwashed and dumbed down and the plunging IQs and the dumbed down slobbering foaming at the mouth populations they're just begging to be hurt begging to be exterminated as the background attacks just intensify with the ambient 0.58

00:46:57.000 level of soft kill being incrementally turned up with humanity and the human soul and all our innocent children caught in the jaws of this super predator class who's just sitting back taking their time slowly gutting us, totally destroying us.

00:47:13.000 Yeah, here's the Huffington Post tech section.

00:47:15.000 LVX system ceiling lights send coded internet data going into government buildings.

00:47:22.000 PG&E smart meters overcharge thousands.

00:47:25.000 NBC, oh, double charging, such an accident.

00:47:29.000 Oh, everything controlled.

00:47:31.000 Nothing you can do about it once the grid's in place.

00:47:34.000 Just total savage rip-offs.

00:47:36.000 And they love it.

00:47:37.000 Remember Enron, some days making over a billion dollars a day just in California.

00:47:41.000 Fake trading computers that they'd give Congress people tours of.

00:47:44.000 Then they would, the phone recordings of it that have been released, where Ken Lay's people from Enron would call up the power plant and go, we need you to cut power today.

00:47:56.000 How's that sound?

00:47:56.000 They'd say, absolutely.

00:47:58.000 Thanks for the call.

00:48:00.000 They'd hang up the phone and then, oh, there's blackouts.

00:48:02.000 There's not enough power.

00:48:04.000 We're gonna triple charge ya! 1.00

00:48:06.000 And the average yuppie can't admit they're being conned. 0.93

00:48:09.000 They're delusional little make-believe egomaniacs who are so narcissistic they can't admit that somebody's screwing them, so they just giggle and say, I'm not being ripped off, we really are having power outages. 0.97

00:48:23.000 And again, just loving being ripped off, loving being conned, loving it! 0.99

00:48:29.000 Just begging for it!

00:48:30.000 Well, not me!

00:48:31.000 Alright, I'm ranting.

00:48:32.000 I'm angry, ladies and gentlemen.

00:48:33.000 That's because I, uh, swam and jogged this morning.

00:48:36.000 Uh, Google wants to control your home.

00:48:41.000 First, Google dominated the web with Search.

00:48:45.000 Admit it, NSA.

00:48:46.000 Then it ruled...

00:48:48.000 Mobile devices with Android totally surveilling you.

00:48:51.000 Now Google wants to control everything inside your home.

00:48:54.000 At its annual I.O.

00:48:55.000 Developers Conference in San Francisco on Tuesday, the company previewed the Android Home, a future platform that's already, the grid's already completely going in, that will allow you to see total concerted through all of industry.

00:49:08.000 It's only less than a hundred of these companies.

00:49:10.000 You get the SPP documents from the North American Union.

00:49:12.000 It's Fortune 100 there telling government what to do.

00:49:15.000 First item on the agenda?

00:49:16.000 Stealth integration in North America.

00:49:18.000 Keep this from the public.

00:49:19.000 We're going to fund ourselves with the carbon tax.

00:49:21.000 Hoorah! 1.00

00:49:22.000 These slaves will put up with anything. 1.00

00:49:23.000 Get them!

00:49:25.000 At its annual I.O.

00:49:26.000 Developers Conference in San Francisco on Tuesday, the company previewed Android Home, a future platform that will allow you to interact practically any electronic device you own using Google.

00:49:36.000 Connected device, like a home media equipment, dishwashers, cars, lights, could soon be able to control using the new platform.

00:49:43.000 That they'll control, that they'll rip you off with, that they'll study your human behavior and create algorithms.

00:49:49.000 They can already predict the future with over 93% total probability just with Google searches tracking mass movements.

00:49:57.000 This is a crystal ball and a kill switch. 0.95

00:50:01.000 These people are geniuses, but they are evil.

00:50:03.000 We like to think of your entire home as an accessory, or better yet, a network of accessories, and think of Android as the operating system for your home, said Joe Britt, head of the Android Home Team.

00:50:15.000 See, we think of your home as ours.

00:50:19.000 What did Schmidt say, the head of Google, last year before he stepped down?

00:50:22.000 He said, yeah, we're surveilling you, and you shouldn't do anything you're not ashamed of.

00:50:27.000 Well, I may be in my house frying eggs up and drinking orange juice, but it's not your business to come look through my window.

00:50:33.000 But see, that's the attitude.

00:50:35.000 We're gonna watch everything you're doing, you know?

00:50:38.000 We're gonna watch you in your bedroom.

00:50:39.000 Well, I want privacy.

00:50:40.000 What do you got to hide? 0.98

00:50:41.000 But meanwhile, government and industry are totally secretive because they're a pack of crooks, a pack of pot-bellied, gibbering, wicked control freaks, and only our lackadaisical, servile, Our weak-kneed behavior and our willingness to be dumbed down has allowed these lesser men to do this to us! 0.99

00:50:59.000 I want to rout them! 0.97

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00:53:58.000 Yeah, strange days are here.

00:54:04.000 Strange days have found us.

00:54:06.000 You know, I'm ranting and raving because it's a normal response to a scientific enslavement surveillance grid being put in where everything in your house can be surveilled and turned off by the government or private industry and children with two million dollar camera systems analyzing how they eat under Department of Defense grants in San Antonio, Texas

00:54:30.000 I mean, this is a creepy group of eugenicists who are setting up their world government as a system to reduce world population forcibly.

00:54:40.000 That's their plan.

00:54:43.000 And you read this article, One Deception, they say the chief obstacle to making that happen across all connected devices is finding a single open standard to control everything on your own.

00:54:55.000 It says right now Apple, Google, they all have different systems.

00:54:57.000 That's not true.

00:54:58.000 The cyber security system, already in place for four years, standardizes the code keys and has chips put in all devices that are takeover chips, which they now admitted to you this week.

00:55:10.000 They rolled it out.

00:55:11.000 Because of the Bin Laden being so scary, we're going to now have alerts that break in and take over your phone. 1.00

00:55:16.000 Nobody goes, well how was that already pre-programmed?

00:55:20.000 How are you able to do that?

00:55:21.000 Well, we have a takeover chip.

00:55:24.000 Oh, but we just decided this week to take your phone over.

00:55:27.000 It's all a strategic rollout.

00:55:29.000 It's a blueprint that they fall in.

00:55:31.000 They take their time and they gauge it as they move and make small changes.

00:55:36.000 We're all of society, farms, ranches, vitamins, everything is taken over by big industry.

00:55:40.000 All right, I want to go to a clip ahead of Dr. Steve Pachinik joining us.

00:55:44.000 This has been Laden's son, the one that is anti-war, didn't like him, kind of a hippie with, you know, he's got the hippie haircut and all the rest of it, coming out and saying, I'm not even sure that my dad is dead.

00:55:57.000 Uh, or that they killed him.

00:55:58.000 But the media spun it like he was saying, if you did kill him, you murdered him, and he deserved a fair trial.

00:56:04.000 They're like, how dare you want a fair trial?

00:56:06.000 Well, if you got the evidence, that's why we have trials.

00:56:08.000 So we find out what really went on.

00:56:10.000 Because under tyrannies, you don't have trials.

00:56:12.000 They can just say, seize that man for treason.

00:56:15.000 I say he's a criminal.

00:56:17.000 You see, but they set the precedent with white supremacists and bin Laden and unpopular type groups for everybody else.

00:56:25.000 Here's a clip from Fox where the son is saying, In the latter, I'm not even sure he's dead.

00:56:32.000 Here it is.

00:56:33.000 This is surprising because remember this is the son of Osama Bin Laden who left Osama Bin Laden in 1999 along with his mother because they didn't like the way in which Bin Laden was living his life.

00:56:44.000 And then he went on to write a book about what it was like to grow up as a Bin Laden. 0.97

00:56:48.000 So here now is his statement post-death.

00:56:51.000 We are not convinced on the available evidence in the absence of a dead body, photographs and video evidence that our natural father is dead.

00:56:58.000 If he has been summarily executed, then we question the propriety of such assassination.

00:57:03.000 We maintain that arbitrary killing is not a solution to political problems.

00:57:07.000 So I guess this is an example of somebody who would have benefited from the administration releasing photos or videotape.

00:57:14.000 Okay, that's enough.

00:57:17.000 Well, I mean, why do you buy anything from governments that have been caught lying over and over again?

00:57:21.000 As we go to break, I want to play this clip.

00:57:22.000 Former Colin Powell Chief of Staff Lawrence Wilkerson said, I don't think they really wanted to get bin Laden.

00:57:28.000 No kidding.

00:57:29.000 He was already dead, but they wanted to keep the boogeyman alive.

00:57:33.000 The idea of bin Laden to say he's hiding under your chair.

00:57:36.000 Give your rights up to us.

00:57:38.000 We'll protect you.

00:57:39.000 Pay the mafia protection money.

00:57:40.000 Give us your liberty.

00:57:41.000 We'll protect you from bin Laden. 0.99

00:57:42.000 Here it is.

00:57:44.000 Well, I think it was quite the opposite.

00:57:45.000 I don't think they really wanted to get Bin Laden.

00:57:49.000 And it's an interesting bit of scholarship, I think, for historians to try and calculate exactly why that occurred, but I don't think they wanted to get Bin Laden. 0.55

00:58:00.000 Bingo!

00:58:00.000 You could be very cynical and say they didn't want to get him because once they got him, the war was over.

00:58:05.000 And that left all the political advantage gone.

00:58:08.000 Bingo!

00:58:09.000 Or you could say that they knew that it was almost an impossibility to get him given what they had done to the intelligence center.

00:58:15.000 Yeah, you've got close to a million private intelligence operatives in the U.S. North.

00:58:20.000 now, on average making over 100 G's a year.

00:58:23.000 You think they want the bin Laden to go away?

00:58:25.000 You think these intelligence agencies would fake video?

00:58:29.000 Yeah, private intelligence agencies have been caught faking these videos over and over again on record.

00:58:34.000 You figured it out yet?

00:58:36.000 They're staging all this to rob us blind.

00:58:38.000 We'll be right back.

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00:59:59.000 Big Brother.

01:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

01:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:10.000 You want answers?

01:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:25.000 Last week we fired out a couple of breakdown videos proving the fraud of the Bin Laden killing. 0.95

01:00:32.000 And breaking down why they're staging it and why it's important to expose the hoax because they're going to launch new wars, bigger domestic police state crackdowns, total takeover of all telecommunications infrastructure has already been done.

01:00:44.000 Now they're rolling it out and getting everybody ready for your phones to be cut off, government messages to blare over them, videos, TVs to be taken over, radio, TV.

01:00:55.000 It's just... Every form of tyranny has a rocket tied to its back.

01:01:02.000 And we have a 15-minute video.

01:01:03.000 Because last week I turned two videos out real fast that had a million, three hundred thousand views between them.

01:01:09.000 One of them 800,000 views, the other 300,000, 400,000 views and growing.

01:01:15.000 And that's a little key weapon in the fight against the globalists because we can really craft those videos, get all our facts straight, show each document, each video clip, really give people a historical context.

01:01:26.000 But now we spent Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, three days, With this 14-minute, 57-second video that is a mini-documentary.

01:01:37.000 I mean, this is very high quality, fully bibliographed with links under the video.

01:01:43.000 New video, proof, Bin Laden, death, another government lie.

01:01:46.000 You want to fight the globalists?

01:01:49.000 You want to... I mean, we've got this little PR campaign by mainstream media demonizing us, attacking us, TV stations.

01:01:55.000 They've got fake alternative media saying, stop talking about Bin Laden, it's a diversion.

01:02:00.000 And at a certain level it is.

01:02:01.000 For TEPCO, Fukushima fuel rods are fully exposed.

01:02:04.000 They now admit there were explosions and more fires a few days ago.

01:02:07.000 Even more radiation than ever, blasting into the atmosphere, coming our way.

01:02:11.000 The government raising radiation levels 500 times.

01:02:15.000 Well, they raised it 1,000 to 100,000, depending on the isotope, what they say is safe.

01:02:19.000 But as of three weeks ago, certain isotopes were 500 times, quote, normal levels in milk and food in the U.S.

01:02:28.000 There's no warnings going out because the feds just say it's safe, drink up and enjoy yourself.

01:02:32.000 Just like I tell the troops, use DU weapons, DU munitions, it's good for you.

01:02:37.000 That's good to have four times the cancer in the troops that use it on record, and four times the birth defects.

01:02:42.000 The Fallujans have 12 to 15 times in major British and U.S.

01:02:46.000 studies.

01:02:47.000 But, you know, wave a magic wand.

01:02:50.000 Everything's fine.

01:02:51.000 So there are some things going on and global meltdown of the dollar and other things, but you've got to attack the Bin Laden hoax because that's the pretext to go after Pakistan, the pretext for the domestic crackdown, the pretext to sell the takeover of all transportation by TSA.

01:03:07.000 And we have Chuckie Schumer today.

01:03:10.000 In my stack, with a press release saying yes, he wants billions of dollars to quote, train local police under TSA to do the grope downs, to give them scanners, to give them robots, to set up checkpoints.

01:03:23.000 This is the federalization.

01:03:25.000 Now how did I know it'd be local police groping you?

01:03:28.000 Because they've done drills for eight years, intensifying the last year.

01:03:32.000 We've played the newscast where folks in Miami got a surprise.

01:03:35.000 Hundreds of federal and state officers showed up as part of a TSA training.

01:03:39.000 People were frisked and given pat-downs.

01:03:42.000 Mobile scanners were on site.

01:03:45.000 In upstate New York, the Army was out, running cars through scanners, searching families, cut to a woman being searched.

01:03:51.000 I think it's great to keep me safe from Al-Qaeda. 0.66

01:03:55.000 So, I mean, people say, well, how do you know what they're going to do before they do it?

01:03:58.000 Because even though what they're going to do is secret on paper, I can see the manifestation of it.

01:04:03.000 I can see the beta testing.

01:04:05.000 These people are obsessed with testing and drills and going over it.

01:04:09.000 I know exactly what they're going to do before they roll it out because it's all public.

01:04:13.000 It's what I do.

01:04:14.000 I watch these people.

01:04:16.000 I study them.

01:04:17.000 I track them.

01:04:19.000 It's what I do.

01:04:20.000 I know what they're going to do.

01:04:21.000 They've been caught bringing narcotics in over and over again.

01:04:24.000 They've been caught running child kidnapping rings over and over again.

01:04:26.000 They've been caught stealing pension funds.

01:04:29.000 The same foreign banks that run our Federal Reserve that got the banker bailout money are now taking the private pension funds that you 100% paid into.

01:04:38.000 They're taking large portions of them in Ireland.

01:04:40.000 That was announced yesterday.

01:04:41.000 In fact, when you guys pulled that out of the stack, I wanted to cover that yesterday and didn't really do it.

01:04:45.000 Dr. Steve Pchenik is going to join us coming up on the other side.

01:04:50.000 In fact, well, I'm really looking forward to this interview straight ahead with Steve Pchenik.

01:04:57.000 Stay with us.

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01:08:07.000 Well, here's Bloomberg's bio on him.

01:08:24.000 Dr. Steven Pchenik is an advisor to Telecontinuity Inc.

01:08:29.000 Mr. Pchenik served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and Senior Policy Planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Sulz, James Baker.

01:08:38.000 Dr. Pchenik was the principal international crisis manager and Haas's negotiator under Secretaries Kissinger and Vance.

01:08:45.000 During that time, he developed conflict resolution techniques that were instrumental in saving over 500 hostages.

01:08:51.000 That's just what Bloomberg has to say about him.

01:08:55.000 The London Telegraph talked to the Italian government, and they say that Mr. Pachanek was also instrumental in the Red Brigade getting rid of the Italian prime minister.

01:09:10.000 I'm going to see from Dr. Pucinich if that's accurate, what they're saying there.

01:09:14.000 He also reportedly was a private individual assassin that worked on overthrowing governments.

01:09:22.000 He of course also has co-authored many of the books with Tom Clancy.

01:09:26.000 That's on record.

01:09:28.000 And also is at IMDB, the International Movie Database, As the producer of some of those books into TV and movies.

01:09:37.000 And perhaps later in the second hour today, we'll open the phones up to take your questions, but also talk a little bit about the novels and what went into making them so realistic and maybe get his view on what Tom Clancy, who I was reading last night that they're working on some new books together, what his views are on this.

01:09:56.000 But I would imagine that he probably won't want to speak for Tom Clancy.

01:09:59.000 Perhaps he can help us get him on.

01:10:02.000 I know a year before 9-11, Tom Clancy wrote a book about a passenger jet being flown to the World Trade Center.

01:10:02.000 The broadcast.

01:10:09.000 I wonder if that's one of the books that Pachenek advised on.

01:10:12.000 I know he's listed as the co-author on quite a few of them.

01:10:15.000 But he joins us now.

01:10:17.000 I want to get into what's happening with the economy, what's happening with the dollar, what's happening with the talk of us losing our A AAA rating because Dr. Pachinik has also done a lot of work in those areas.

01:10:31.000 The war drums being beaten to go after Pakistan now.

01:10:35.000 That's becoming more and more clear.

01:10:37.000 What's happening in Libya.

01:10:39.000 I mean, I want to pick his brain on a lot of subjects.

01:10:41.000 But before we go any further, I called Dr. Pachinik yesterday to get him back on.

01:10:47.000 I gave him a few days rest after he graciously joined us Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday of last week, because the listeners are just demanding it, and it's just amazing insight, obviously.

01:10:59.000 But I preface it with Dr. Pucinich saying, have you seen this MSNBC article?

01:11:04.000 And I said, no.

01:11:05.000 Well, he emailed it to me.

01:11:07.000 Because there have literally been thousands of blogs, hundreds of foreign and domestic newspapers, you name it, that have reported on the Pachinik interviews here on air.

01:11:18.000 And they've had to admit, well, Madeleine Albright did concur with him a year after he first said it on Alex Jones in 2002 in April.

01:11:25.000 That yes, they had him frozen.

01:11:26.000 We're planning to roll him out of the politically expedient time.

01:11:29.000 I also have two White House sources told me the same thing.

01:11:31.000 Then Teresa Hines Carey came out. 1.00

01:11:33.000 Then Walter Cronkite, the late Walter Cronkite came out.

01:11:36.000 Those are all on record and we break it down on our new video.

01:11:40.000 Proof Bin Laden death another government lie.

01:11:42.000 Please get that out to everybody because

01:11:45.000 On this slide, they're trying to boost his approval ratings, get the domestic police state rollout, the internal checkpoints, the internal passports, the local police openly federalized, that's in CBS News today, to do the grope downs and the slave training and the body scanners at bus stations, train stations, highway checkpoints, the new cybersecurity takeover of all internet devices, the standardization is already in, all the cell phones with the new Kill

01:12:14.000 uh... code chip where the president has now announced he will break in cut off your phone conversations smartphones you're gonna get video and text regular phones just text with government mandatory messages nine thousand telescreens at town squares mall of america all walmart locations now getting them uh... out of eight hundred over four hundred already have them saying you know don't trust your neighbors right out of nineteen eighty four so their entire agenda

01:12:42.000 is based on re-invoking the lie of the false flag of 9-11.

01:12:47.000 And you notice after the attack, and then now after the supposed killing of Bin Laden, we're being told we've got to now give up our rights.

01:12:55.000 We've got, there's going to be more attacks.

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01:13:00.000 KSM Under Torture says, if Bin Laden's killed, they're going to nuke us.

01:13:04.000 That came out two weeks before.

01:13:06.000 They're really hyping it to get a new false flag ready to really drop the hammer on this soft Marshall Law grid they've put in that they're now starting to warm up and move to the front burner.

01:13:18.000 So Dr. Pachinick said, have you seen this?

01:13:19.000 And I said, no.

01:13:21.000 And I had forgotten all this information.

01:13:24.000 But they did a hit piece on Dr. Pachinik, New Life for an Old Rumor was Bin Laden a Marfanoid.

01:13:30.000 And they go and they talk to the top doctor, Richard Devereaux.

01:13:42.000 They go and talk, who was trained at the same facility that Dr. Pachinik was, well he's Harvard and MIT.

01:13:50.000 Devereux, the Cornell Medical Center and New York Presbyterian, expert who treats patients with Marfa Syndrome, said he doesn't want to talk about it, but yes,

01:14:00.000 Bin Laden is a marfanoid or someone who has this syndrome which is very debilitating and at the point that Bin Laden was at on his deathbed CBS News confirmed in Dubai at the American Hospital being visited by the CIA I guess getting his agreement to play the part from the grave of this boogeyman to now be resurrected again and then killed again But he confirmed that yes, he clearly has this syndrome.

01:14:30.000 And that's our article that we have now up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

01:14:38.000 Top doctor confirms Bin Laden had Marfan syndrome.

01:14:43.000 On top of it, he had total failure of the kidneys, that was on record, on the outside that you live maybe five, six years with, and this other degenerative disease, and there he is in this squalid cesspit that they told us was a palace, and they confirm no dialysis equipment.

01:15:03.000 Dr. Steve Pucinich, that's a five minute intro.

01:15:06.000 I just wanted to preface everything.

01:15:08.000 What does this signify that they've tried to demonize you so much?

01:15:12.000 As you told me yesterday, the intelligence community creates names like deathers, birthers, just like conspiracy theorists to put a label on things.

01:15:20.000 Now they have deatherism within hours of my report a week and a half ago on Sunday evening.

01:15:26.000 This has all the telltale signs.

01:15:28.000 What does it signify Even in their own hit piece, having to admit that he had a terminal disease and couldn't be alive today.

01:15:36.000 Well, what happens in the intelligence community, and you and I expect it, and I'm sure your audience does, number one, you know, the intelligence community always assumes that we, the American people, are dumber than they are, and the politicians in the White House, who really, now I see Tom Donilon and Ben Rhodes, are really second-quality politicians who come out of lobbying and local politics in New York, so they have no understanding of you have Or the American public.

01:16:03.000 And what happened in the intelligence community, it's kind of a kabuki.

01:16:08.000 Once somebody like me, who's been in national security, and again, I'm not a whistleblower, I don't have a top secret clearance.

01:16:14.000 You came forth and your people came forth and I said, look, this is a lie.

01:16:19.000 The lie doesn't work.

01:16:21.000 enough of this nonsense in trying to manipulate the American public for the benefit of the political expediency of this president and the former president and the former president, Bush Jr. or Clinton.

01:16:33.000 The issue is very simply, by saying that we are conspirators, number one, they try to be legitimized by putting in a category.

01:16:40.000 That doesn't work anymore.

01:16:42.000 Whether we're conspirators or we're lifers, there was a new term called lifers and then deathers.

01:16:48.000 And when I said to myself, my God, these boys are really reaching out in desperation because every time you try to niche Our public, the Alex Jones public, or the American public, or you Alex, or me, by saying I'm a conspirator, it really doesn't work.

01:17:07.000 And what happens is they expose themselves, as I told you on the first show weeks ago, they're putting themselves out, and I watch where they're shooting, and I know exactly how they're going to come back, and I told you they're going to come back and call us kooky, crazy, alleged conspirators, as you saw in that article MSNBC.

01:17:24.000 Well, reporters don't have the intelligence or the ability to really spend time on these issues, most of them are young kids, or most of them are using blogs, and most of them are just picking up, and they're just literally receptacles through which, you know, intelligence...

01:17:39.000 Well, Doc, I want to stop you and back you up on that.

01:17:43.000 These Atlantic Monthly articles, the MSNBC, the Forbes, there are spelling errors, name errors.

01:17:52.000 Oh, there are.

01:17:53.000 I'm not kidding.

01:17:54.000 They put in Forbes that you had said that Obama, the Obama killing wasn't real when it was Bin Laden killing, and they're getting rid of all the real journalists and hiring mindless yes-men, and this is and they're getting rid of all the real journalists and hiring mindless yes-men, and this is drivel that you would expect an eighth-grade school Hi.

01:18:18.000 I agree with you, Alex.

01:18:19.000 Really, what it is, is it's nothing to do with us.

01:18:21.000 Quite frankly, I'm very proud to be on your show, and I'm proud that our American public is forcing the illiteracy of the mainstream media to come out with the most absurd comments, poorly written.

01:18:34.000 You and I know they're extremely poorly written.

01:18:37.000 And they're talking about issues now about military dogs that are involved in Afghanistan.

01:18:43.000 Well, you know, if you have nothing else to talk about, While Bahrain is falling, Syria is falling, people are being killed in the thousands, and you really don't know how to analyze this, and you don't know what to say.

01:18:56.000 You have really second-rate writers and second-rate people.

01:18:59.000 Well, that's cheap psychological warfare!

01:19:01.000 That's our culture, by the way.

01:19:02.000 These are the McDonald brains of our, you know, insidious mind. 1.00

01:19:08.000 21st century counterpart to immediate response when it totally not qualified to write they really don't know English they have not trained in journalism as the other journalists were 20 30 years ago where they were investigated even Seymour Hersh who I don't agree with or you know some of the famous reporters who spent time and then and sacrificed their life

01:19:32.000 However, there are people on the ground, on TV, who sacrificed their lives in Egypt and in Syria, they're trying to get in and different parts of the world.

01:19:41.000 But that's not what you're reading.

01:19:42.000 What you're reading is about little individuals who really don't know English, who've been hired from college at the cheapest, lowest level.

01:19:50.000 They write in little spurts, like Facebook, and they really have no idea what You're right.

01:19:55.000 Dr. Pchenik, let's come back, though, and get into the evidence of this Bin Laden story being a joke. 0.65

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01:23:58.000 All right, former black op mastermind, spy master Dr. spy master Dr. Steve Pachinik wrote the book for the State Department on psychological warfare.

01:24:29.000 You know, I was reading Goebbels more than a decade ago, Doctor, and he was talking, when Germany was being bombed, it was 1944, they were really losing, and Goebbels said, we've got to change our propaganda. 0.90

01:24:40.000 The Germans will do whatever we tell them, but this stuff is too ridiculous. 0.96

01:24:44.000 It was almost like Baghdad Bob out there saying, the Americans are nowhere near Baghdad, and you see the explosions a mile behind him and US helicopters flying behind him.

01:24:54.000 The Germans were saying, there's no problem, we're not being bombed, and Goebbels said, look, We've got to get more reality-based.

01:25:00.000 And I think the ham-fisted PSYOPs that these criminals are running are becoming so cartoonish that they may be fooling some of the dumber segments, but most people I know in the polls I've seen, people are not buying it.

01:25:15.000 Dumping the body in the sea, all of this. 0.65

01:25:17.000 And I want you to comment on their ham-fisted tactics, doctor, but before you do that, let's get into MSNBC trying to demonize you, but then going to experts who they read in Salon and others in 2001, 2002, and other publications.

01:25:35.000 MSNBC called Dr. Richard Devereaux and others, and he said, I'm not going to talk about it.

01:25:43.000 He said, I don't want to continue to get calls about this.

01:25:46.000 But he said, yes, he is a marfanoid.

01:25:48.000 He has the disorder.

01:25:50.000 He had it.

01:25:51.000 He had it back then.

01:25:52.000 There's no doubt.

01:25:53.000 And they say, so that confirms what Pichinning has to say.

01:25:56.000 But still, they make fun of you and myself.

01:26:01.000 I mean, explaining for people, this is 10 years ago.

01:26:05.000 He's on record at a hospital almost dead.

01:26:07.000 Now, you saw him before that when you were working with him in the 80s, met him once, and you said he looked ill then.

01:26:13.000 Doctor, you're a medical doctor, have two medical degrees.

01:26:15.000 Right.

01:26:16.000 I mean, I was looking you up.

01:26:17.000 You write some of the most prestigious medical reports in the country, co-authored them, that have won national awards just recently.

01:26:24.000 Here you are saying he's got this, the media goes out to demonize you, and then talks to the top expert on this disease.

01:26:34.000 They admit that.

01:26:34.000 Top doctor confirms Bin Laden had Marfan syndrome.

01:26:38.000 They admit you can't live very long with this.

01:26:39.000 Plus he had total kidney failure.

01:26:41.000 You can't live more than six years with that on average.

01:26:44.000 But we're to believe he's in a squalid cesspit with no dialysis equipment.

01:26:48.000 Can you walk through this fairytale, doctor?

01:26:52.000 Yeah.

01:26:53.000 What happened is you invoked Goering.

01:26:56.000 Let me invoke a man in 1945, a German senior official next to Goering, who was asked the following question by three American judges.

01:27:05.000 He was asked, how did you mobilize 35 million people to go to war?

01:27:10.000 His response was, it's very simple.

01:27:12.000 Whether you're a democracy, whether you're communism, or whether you're a Nazi, nationalism, it's very simple.

01:27:19.000 What you do is you create an attack.

01:27:22.000 A false flag attack.

01:27:23.000 Then you say, whoever attacked us is the enemy, and whoever's with us against the enemy is a patriot.

01:27:29.000 Well, that's what happened in 9-11, and the man who was asked that question was daring the head of the Air Force.

01:27:35.000 He subsequently committed suicide, and that was in front of the commission and our prosecutors in the Nuremberg trial.

01:27:41.000 So, the technique is an old technique of trying to demonize And create that we're the patriots in the United States and anybody against them are enemies.

01:27:51.000 Now, when you try to portray anybody, forget me, or what I am or what I was, it gets very hard when the beginning of the lie is a lie that's so obvious you can't really change it.

01:28:04.000 And then once you create this lie where he had Marfan syndrome, it's been corroborated by many people, let's say, forget me, but others, Madeleine Albright and others, You continue with a storyline over nine to ten years, over different bureaucracies.

01:28:20.000 You have to remember, there's no continuity in the CIA.

01:28:24.000 Since that time, nine, ten years ago, I would suspect a good majority of the CIA operatives went out and went into other private businesses, which they normally should do, and many of them came back.

01:28:35.000 Probably 70-80% of those who came back are on contract, a major 128 or Beltway Bandits like Northrop Grumman, Boeing, L3 Communications Corporation, where their loyalty is not to the United States, to America.

01:28:52.000 Their loyalty is to the paycheck, and they will be thrown out eventually.

01:28:57.000 And with Petraeus coming in, hopefully, General Petraeus, he will get rid of a lot of these issues.

01:29:02.000 and the compartmentalized nature.

01:29:04.000 Now, what happens with somebody like me who's been in the administration, in and out, by the way, I received no pension.

01:29:10.000 I didn't receive, you know, I received very little money.

01:29:13.000 I came in as a consultant.

01:29:15.000 I was not a civil servant.

01:29:16.000 I sometimes had a military rank.

01:29:19.000 I volunteered for most assignments, and I left.

01:29:21.000 I was on line probably six or seven, eight times where my life was changed.

01:29:26.000 Doctor, doctor, this is a short segment, long 18-minute segment coming up.

01:29:29.000 Stay there, we're going to come back and break this down.

01:29:31.000 But specifically, how long could you live with this disease?

01:29:36.000 Why wasn't there dialysis equipment?

01:29:41.000 And then we'll leave the Bin Laden situation and get into other big issues. 0.75

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01:35:42.000 Going back to Dr. Pachinik, I was talking to Dr. Pachinik and I said, look, I know you don't like to toot your horn, And about how you said he had Marfan's, the kidney failure, it's on record, now they're having to admit it.

01:35:52.000 It's impossible, he could still be alive ten years later.

01:35:55.000 And he said, look Alex, I don't want to get caught up in their fake narrative.

01:35:59.000 When it's an overall lie, a lot of times, and I agree with him, they put out ridiculous disinfo as a tactic to then make you debate the little lies as if the overall story's true.

01:36:10.000 I get that.

01:36:12.000 But still, sir, as a psychological warfare chief, somebody that analyzed foreign governments' psychological warfare, somebody who launched these things on other governments, somebody who wrote the book for this on the State Department, the guy that is the top advisor to Tom Clancy, you're the inside guy to make his book so credible.

01:36:31.000 Uh, let's go over.

01:36:32.000 No dialysis machine in the Hovel.

01:36:34.000 That was a palace.

01:36:35.000 Uh, not shooting, uh, in a 40 minute firefight.

01:36:38.000 Not having the wife.

01:36:40.000 Not producing the wife. 0.79

01:36:41.000 Uh, throwing the body into the ocean.

01:36:43.000 The Marfans. 0.91

01:36:45.000 Uh, the, uh, you said it last Tuesday.

01:36:47.000 Two days before they came out and said, that's a fake Situation Room photo.

01:36:51.000 That stage, that isn't how it works.

01:36:53.000 It's not real.

01:36:54.000 I've been in on those things.

01:36:55.000 And then they come out two days later and go, yeah, it was fake.

01:36:58.000 They weren't watching any video feed.

01:37:01.000 I mean, you've been 100% right.

01:37:03.000 You're being demonized by thousands of publications, proving that you're on target, you're over the target, getting the flack, so break down... 0.71

01:37:11.000 The ridiculousness of it.

01:37:12.000 And then we'll get into all the other facets. 0.99

01:37:13.000 Let me go on, though, ridiculous. 0.76

01:37:15.000 First of all, the mansion that they attacked, by the way, is a mansion. 0.86

01:37:18.000 So, before, all of the propaganda had to do with the fact that this tall, six-foot-four individual was carrying around, presumed carrying around a dialysis machine.

01:37:28.000 Now, everybody in your audience knows this weighs a lot, and you can't carry it through Afghanistan and Tora Bora.

01:37:33.000 That was the former story, narrative, up to the time of this assault.

01:37:37.000 That's somewhere, and you can check it out.

01:37:40.000 He was hidden.

01:37:41.000 He, Osama, was hidden, along with Zawahiri, who's a physician, his number two man, in the mountains of Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the President said, we couldn't find him.

01:37:51.000 Now, in ten years, a six-foot-four giant with Marfan syndrome walking around, With a huge renal dialysis machine which requires all kinds of ancillary assistance, is running around the mountains of Pakistan, which I've been in, and Afghanistan, and is carrying this, and lives in a cave, but presumably was subsequently attacked in this beautiful mansion where he was living at six years without anybody knowing.

01:38:19.000 I mean, that's an inherent Contradiction.

01:38:21.000 Now, not only is this mansion next to a major city, but more importantly, I want everybody to imagine what the West Point Academy looks like.

01:38:31.000 It's a beautiful academy.

01:38:33.000 I've taught there from time to time.

01:38:35.000 I've given lectures.

01:38:36.000 It's beautifully located on the Hudson.

01:38:38.000 Well, that's the equivalent of the Pakistan Military Institute.

01:38:42.000 So I want everybody to imagine that about a couple hundred feet from West Point Academy, we found Osama bin Laden dead in this beautiful mansion where we have all kinds of soldiers monitoring the entire area.

01:38:55.000 We have aerial satellites.

01:38:58.000 We have all kinds of aerial satellites.

01:39:00.000 And believe me, our boys are extremely good, particularly in the Army.

01:39:04.000 They're extremely good.

01:39:05.000 I don't want to tell which divisions.

01:39:07.000 I've worked with them.

01:39:08.000 They're smart.

01:39:09.000 They're right on target.

01:39:10.000 Now, if you can't tell me that they couldn't understand that there was Osama bin Laden a couple of hundred feet away from a comparable part of a West Point, that's absurd.

01:39:21.000 Then we get to the fact that they buried Osama Bin Laden in the sea, which is not according to Muslim culture.

01:39:28.000 All of my colleagues and friends who are Muslim understand that first you bury them on the land and his face must point to Mecca.

01:39:37.000 It must point to Mecca.

01:39:39.000 You do not throw him in the water.

01:39:41.000 So whoever developed the narrative didn't know once.

01:39:44.000 Logistical and tactical issues really did not understand what our capabilities are in the sky, on the ground, and really belittled in many ways.

01:39:55.000 What I found offensive isn't that we're demonized or I'm demonized.

01:39:59.000 I don't give, you know, a hoot whether I'm demonized.

01:40:03.000 I give a hoot that our intelligence community is being demonized by inference because whoever created this story, and I can guarantee you it's not people I work with who are in Army units and elsewhere, and I won't identify them.

01:40:18.000 They're exceedingly bright.

01:40:19.000 They have many master's degrees.

01:40:22.000 They have a great sense of humor, and I know they're laughing at what's happening right now.

01:40:26.000 And these are brave men and women who are sacrificing their lives. 0.86

01:40:31.000 And this is offensive to my colleagues who are working right now and dying for us, getting a story where, by the way, the SEALs, which I have had respect for, but they've had a history of some problems, have come from a land-based area and fly into this so-called mortuary, have come from a land-based area and fly into this so-called mortuary, well, it's really a mortuary, and attack Osama bin Laden and shoot him in 0.66

01:40:56.000 The story gets so out of proportion that not only does it become ridiculous, but listen to this one, Alex.

01:41:02.000 Within days of the time that you and I talked, I think it was two, three days ago, there were two books about the Seals in the New York Times.

01:41:10.000 Now tell me that isn't propitious timing.

01:41:13.000 And I told my colleagues in the intelligence community, you better inform those who are creating this narrative.

01:41:19.000 This is out of control.

01:41:21.000 You can't suddenly, and it was one of the great intellectual literary editors of the New York Times, I forget her name, it's a Japanese last name, but Bill Keller of the New York Times, who's the managing director, should be absolutely ashamed.

01:41:35.000 but a shame that he's being manipulated and used to produce two incredible so-called autobiographies of SEALs.

01:41:44.000 And just about the time that the SEALs were propagating and self-aggrandizing them on TV.

01:41:50.000 Let me stop you there.

01:41:51.000 Two more books come. 0.98

01:41:52.000 Now, in the world of intelligence, this is so egregiously inappropriate that all my colleagues at the Association of Former Intelligence Officers, which I belong to, the National Military Intelligence Agency, which I belong to, and other intelligence groups, we're looking at this, and my colleagues are and other intelligence groups, we're looking at this, and my colleagues are saying, this And this is an affront to the intelligence community because it makes them sound as if they're stupid. 0.98

01:42:18.000 They're not! 0.97

01:42:19.000 What's stupid here are the civilians who are running this show, particularly Mr. Donlan, who was a lobbyist, and the so-called National Security Advisor has no idea what he's talking about. 0.99

01:42:29.000 He's a National Security Advisor to Obama, but guess what he was, Alex? 0.99

01:42:33.000 He was a lobbyist for Fannie Mae between 1999 and 2005!

01:42:39.000 Now, you know Fannie Mae was corrupt, and you're telling me that our National Security Advisor, who's basically a lawyer, went to second grade schools, not quality schools, and maybe you don't agree with him, but certainly was not very capable, and his sister-in-law and his brother is the advisor to Biden, and he is married to Chief of Staff of Biden.

01:43:01.000 Now, what we have here is a little cabal of incompetency on the civilian side in the White House, which is mandated Let me stop you, doctor.

01:43:10.000 intelligence capability that we have, and they're telling them what to do.

01:43:14.000 It's not unlike Bush Jr., who wasn't very bright and said that we had weapons of mass destruction, and many of our people in the intelligence community said, you don't know what you're talking about.

01:43:24.000 And particularly in the military intelligence said, forget it.

01:43:27.000 We're not even following you.

01:43:28.000 And let me stop you, doctor.

01:43:29.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

01:43:30.000 And one of the reasons why I like General Petraeus is that he didn't listen to Jerry Bremer, this neocon, and a lot of the men I work with in the units of special forces and other units said, get out of here, neocons.

01:43:43.000 And now I'm saying to our intelligence community in the military, tell Donovan to leave and tell the president he better get a new national security team because this is out of control.

01:43:52.000 All right, Dr. Pachenec.

01:43:53.000 People is out of control.

01:43:56.000 Dr. Pucinich, I want to break down all the incredible information you're bringing out, but the point you were making a few minutes ago, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that when you're getting fired at in propaganda or with actual lead, that is a way to see where the enemy is, and if they open up on you immediately, that's evidence that it's staged, and so you have the rollout of the new alert system, the rollout of the new campaign, the rollout of the demonization of Pakistan, the rollout of all this pre-bin Laden

01:44:25.000 Hype that if you kill him he's gonna nuke you in the AP two weeks before out of Guantanamo Bay.

01:44:32.000 You can see all the pre-scripting ahead of time showing even more evidence and now you have the Navy SEAL books all perfectly timed, a full PR drive obviously set up at least a year ago.

01:44:45.000 But I want to go over some other points that we haven't brought up to you.

01:44:49.000 You have the ultimate intelligence cache.

01:44:51.000 You have the mastermind of Al Qaeda with the buried nukes in America. 0.89

01:44:56.000 The government's saying they've got nukes.

01:44:58.000 Total, you know, Easter Bunny made up.

01:45:00.000 They're going to get us.

01:45:02.000 But first they say he resisted.

01:45:04.000 No, he didn't. 0.93

01:45:05.000 We executed him. 0.99

01:45:06.000 We killed him once we drug him out. 0.99

01:45:08.000 So they kill the ultimate intelligence source.

01:45:12.000 So even if you believe the official story, they wanted to cover up his CIA history.

01:45:16.000 I want you to speak to killing the greatest intelligence catch.

01:45:19.000 But then it gets worse.

01:45:20.000 They tell us we have eight hard drives.

01:45:22.000 We know what Al-Qaeda was going to hit now. 0.92

01:45:25.000 If it was real, and they really had the intelligence, they would say the place burned up.

01:45:30.000 In fact, they would torch the place and say everything burned up, we didn't get intelligence, so all the fake Al-Qaeda networks, if they were real, wouldn't be tipped.

01:45:40.000 I mean, that's basic police, basic intelligence.

01:45:43.000 So can you speak to killing the great intelligence cache?

01:45:47.000 They are thinking that, not what I'm thinking, but this is the way we'd go in the psychological warfare.

01:45:51.000 The reason they're creating, in part, this story that's nonsensical, that is becoming even more absurd, is that, in their mind, not my mind or your mind, in their mind, that if they said, listen, we found the hard drives, we found the fast drives, we found all this intelligence, in their mind, they're assuming, our intelligence community, that all the other al-Qaeda units, particularly in Yemen, Money.

01:46:15.000 in North Africa will be fearful that they can be tracked down.

01:46:21.000 That just doesn't work.

01:46:22.000 Number one, every al-Qaeda member, and a few that are remaining, by the way, knows that Osama bin Laden was not really in charge of anything operational.

01:46:32.000 Money.

01:46:33.000 That was just money.

01:46:34.000 No, no, he didn't even have money.

01:46:36.000 He's not been around.

01:46:37.000 He's really had really no operational effect of it.

01:46:41.000 I don't think there's one person, honestly, in the intelligence community who, despite giving this nonsensical story, will tell you that he was a strategic You just dropped another bombshell.

01:46:52.000 You just dropped another bombshell.

01:46:52.000 Hold on.

01:46:53.000 Exactly.

01:46:54.000 It's admitted he was only a figurehead.

01:46:57.000 No, no, no.

01:46:58.000 I mean, hadn't had money in a long time.

01:47:01.000 Wasn't running anything.

01:47:02.000 So that proves it's another lie claiming all the operational plans were there on these computers.

01:47:08.000 That's correct.

01:47:09.000 I mean, there was basically, this is what we call in the psyops world, a type of deterrence to try to frighten whatever potential terrorist may or may not be out there.

01:47:19.000 But you have to think for a moment.

01:47:21.000 Our military has effectively killed, let's say, 2,000 so-called al-Qaeda members in Afghanistan at the price of $50 million per al-Qaeda member.

01:47:32.000 That's a lot of money.

01:47:33.000 And that has not been effective.

01:47:35.000 So the overall goal of civil society and the president's notion that we should have love and kumbaya and understanding, get rid of corruption, and by the way this is quite interesting given a man who came from a very corrupt city like Chicago going out internationally and saying we really should get rid of corruption around the world, what in fact has happened is that we have Really institutionalized military control in the Middle East.

01:48:00.000 That is, when we took out Mubarak, and I was involved with Mubarak and Sadat before, we really institutionalized military control.

01:48:10.000 And what's happening now in Libya is that we're supporting military control as well.

01:48:16.000 Contrary to what they say, we're bringing in the Egyptian special forces.

01:48:20.000 We have special forces there.

01:48:21.000 We have CIA operatives, which you had to admit.

01:48:24.000 The truth of the matter is, this entire program isn't just from the intelligence point of view, this is very low level on the intelligence, and from the strategic point of view, this is not working at all.

01:48:34.000 And he has no idea, so Ben Rhodes, he's writing a speech, a very ineffectual foreign policy man who just basically is a political act, is trying to integrate the so-called killing of Osama Bin Laden, which is not true, And what it means for the Middle East, which he has no idea, because our intelligence community never picked up the notion that one poor man could put himself on fire in Tunisia and set off a riot in Egypt, and then subsequently in Libya and Bahrain.

01:49:03.000 Our real war, and the military and the men who are on the ground understand that our real war Has nothing to do with Osama Bin Laden.

01:49:12.000 That's just what we call a distraction.

01:49:14.000 Our real issue is a fight with Iran right now in Bahrain and in Syria, where Iran is helping the Syrians to suppress many of the dissidents.

01:49:24.000 And this is what's going on, but if we dissect every element of it, what you see right now is you have a civilian government, again, in the White House, who's really not qualified to run international affairs.

01:49:37.000 Again, domestic affairs, because this guy Tom Donlan was part of the corruption of Fannie Mae and how he could have been appointed a national security advisor, a corrupt individual who was a lobbyist for a corrupt institution, as you know, and you've talked about it before, Fannie Mae, tells the American president in America and you've talked about it before, Fannie Mae, tells the American president in America this is what we should be believing while his wife is working for Biden, who also is not the swiftest

01:50:04.000 You have to remember, this is a man who plagiarized many of his speeches long ago and has a problem with a few aneurysms in his head.

01:50:11.000 And now this is what we have controlling the American public, telling us, we who they consider as dumb rummies who have to make a living, who have to take two jobs, who have to go to school, as you said, at a very expensive school system that are ripping us off.

01:50:29.000 And we have to say, listen, it's enough... 0.97

01:50:32.000 Take your incompetency, take your nonsense, and get the hell out of here because we have to have a living.

01:50:38.000 And the major national security problem that every one of my generals knows and every one of my intelligence colleagues understand is the national debt. 0.84

01:50:47.000 It is not Osama.

01:50:49.000 It is not anything else but the national debt.

01:50:51.000 Alright, Dr. Pachinik, we've got a break.

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01:55:01.000 I'd love to hear from military, people in black ops, retired.

01:55:07.000 He was talking about most of his colleagues, formerly intelligence, are currently just saying, this is embarrassing us.

01:55:13.000 This is going to discredit everybody.

01:55:14.000 This is too obvious.

01:55:16.000 You've got a Chicago, New York mafia that are used to always winning.

01:55:20.000 And they're not even using professionals for their lies, and that's why it's gotten so cartoonish.

01:55:25.000 But I was saying, Doc, you didn't get into the point of, if we're to believe the fable that they just killed him, why, if he didn't resist, capture him and get the intel, and you answered it very succinctly. 0.96

01:55:39.000 Well, what I said is basically when they want, when the intelligence community wants to show that they can kill Osama bin Laden, they're basically transmitting the message all over the world to potential terrorists that we can kill you no matter where you are, where you think you can hide, we'll always find you and we will kill you also.

01:55:56.000 We know where you are because of the ostensible information we got from the Osama bin Laden compound.

01:56:04.000 So that's the PSYOPs, the level of that in terms of warning, threatening, and explaining that we're going to hunt you down no matter where you are.

01:56:13.000 Now, Doc, how does that square with 9-11 being a false flag and Amor al-Awlaki, born in the U.S., admittedly hanging out at the Pentagon, Adam Gadon, the fake videos, four of the new five were old videos?

01:56:27.000 Well, all you notice is his compounds.

01:56:29.000 The problem of the narrative is, when you started it, it should have stopped under the Bush Jr.

01:56:34.000 administration.

01:56:35.000 And I think at some point somebody there would have been smart enough to say, OK, we found Osama bin Laden. 0.63

01:56:41.000 But from the PSYOP's point of view, They needed that story, they being the administration continuity narrative, needed the story of Osama Bin Laden to be alive so that they could justify our military presence in Afghanistan.

01:56:55.000 And you would hear Bush Jr.

01:56:58.000 said, no, we're still out there, Osama's there, I'm going to get him. 1.00

01:57:01.000 Well, he didn't get him in that bravado kind of tone.

01:57:04.000 And it was clear, you know, Bush Jr.

01:57:05.000 was not very qualified to get anything, let alone his own position.

01:57:09.000 But then Obama comes in and says, yes, we'll hunt them down, and once we hunt them down, we will leave Afghanistan. 1.00

01:57:19.000 Well, lo and behold, they are leaving Afghanistan, and propitiously, as we say in the intelligence community, suddenly we found Osama bin Laden, and we killed him. 0.52

01:57:29.000 Well, the propitious element of the political expediency is the fact that they used this dead body and narrative In order to justify the exit from Afghanistan and Pakistan, in that process, which is really a tactical issue, Osama bin Laden's death has no relevance to our strategic position.

01:57:49.000 None whatsoever.

01:57:50.000 Our real strategic position is the withdrawal from Pakistan without creating any trouble, which we have now compounded very seriously.

01:57:58.000 One, thanks to Panetta, who has been using drones and killing a lot of civilians with a lot of collateral damage.

01:58:05.000 Secondly, because the relationship between the CIA, which created the ISI, years ago, while I was in the administration, has been absolutely horrendous, and the Pakistanis have used and been used, and so right now there's a relationship that's going on that's in a marriage that I would characterize like a sadomasochistic relationship. 0.96

01:58:27.000 The Pakistanis say, hit me, hit me, and then they hit me, and then they They go back and they hit the C.I.A. 1.00

01:58:33.000 and the C.I.A. 0.97

01:58:34.000 says, why did you hit me?

01:58:35.000 And they hit them back.

01:58:36.000 There's this ongoing game that goes on.

01:58:38.000 Stay there.

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02:00:22.000 Okay, we're going to, at the start of the next segment, get Dr. Steve Pachinick's geopolitical overview, looking at Libya, Syria, other areas.

02:00:32.000 The dollar imploding.

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02:00:58.000 But finishing up with Bin Laden. 0.70

02:01:01.000 What doctor, from a psychological warfare perspective, going into their minds, what were they thinking when they did fake situation room photos?

02:01:09.000 What were they thinking when they wrote up this shoddy plan?

02:01:12.000 I mean, was it meant to be so shoddy that people would then debate the shoddy details of the larger issue?

02:01:18.000 Or is it as bad as it appears you're saying?

02:01:22.000 And these people are just amateurs. 0.99

02:01:25.000 They've got the power, they're leaning on the fact that they're in control, and they think the public is dumb. 0.95

02:01:30.000 I mean, what's going on here? 0.97

02:01:32.000 Why did they do this?

02:01:34.000 Well, number one, they do it in order to create a narrative to warn the other potential terrorists around the world that they are today being a unit for the special forces, whether it's SEALs or not.

02:01:49.000 There are other equally important, if not more important units, which I won't identify, which are basically creating a story, and I don't want to use the word obfuscate.

02:01:59.000 In other words, they create certain details and narratives that want to not only confuse the American public for many reasons, because they want to justify a narrative for the president, but more importantly, from the intelligence community point of view, they don't want other terrorist groups or other countries to really understand

02:02:18.000 What it is that they're doing, or how they did it, in terms of coming into a so-called area and acquiring information and creating this storyline, which in fact a whole different storyline might have existed.

02:02:30.000 And that storyline we won't even know because the intention of PsyOps and The Lie and to create this narrative is to distract Other elements outside of this country, strategically, either whether it's another country, whether it's Syria, whether it's Iran, to explain to them that if you think we're still ineffectual, I think you better wake up.

02:02:53.000 I mean, if I were to run a story like this and make it so confusing and all, The only element that I would get out of it if I were in this administration is to say to the Iranians, listen, we can create this narrative, and maybe it doesn't work too well for the American public, but rest assured that our helicopters, not necessarily the SEALs, but our units are capable of entering into Iran, and they have. 0.77

02:03:18.000 I won't tell you which ones, but they've gone into southern Iran and the Iranians are well aware that we're on the borders of Iraq and Afghanistan to put a lot of pressure on Iran and the Shiites to tell them to cease and desist getting and stirring up 1.00

02:03:34.000 The part in the Middle East, particularly in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, our major concern right now is the Iranian influence that's in Syria, that's in Hamas, that's in Bahrain, that's in Saudi Arabia.

02:03:49.000 So this kind of a story, although it's not plausible to the United States and it's not even plausible to future terrorists or potential terrorists, is really a way of denoting to Iran and to our potential enemy, which is really Iran at this point, who is sending out Islamic revolutionary guards all over the Middle East that cease and desist because we will confront you, and the United States did, under Gates,

02:04:14.000 a very effective Secretary of Defense, help the Saudi a very effective Secretary of Defense, help the Saudi Arabians to confront Iranian agitators in Bahrain, which is near Saudi Arabia and in the eastern part of Saudi Arabia, to say we're going to put down this revolution, but we're going to maintain stabilization of the Middle to say we're going to put down this revolution, but we're going to maintain stabilization of the Middle East and not secede it to the Shiites versus the Saudis because the major strategic partner in all of this is not really Israel as much as it is Saudi Arabia, who is very frightened that if the Shiites but we're going to maintain stabilization of the Middle East and not secede it to the Shiites versus the Saudis because the major strategic partner in

02:04:51.000 Dr. Bachinic, we've got a break.

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02:08:11.000 We are into our number three, Dr. Steve Pachinik.

02:08:16.000 Is our guest, formerly wrote the book in psychological warfare for the State Department, has consulted and worked for five presidents, heading up major departments at the Department of State under Kissinger and many others.

02:08:34.000 And he joins us for the rest of the hour.

02:08:35.000 I know we got loaded phones.

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02:08:37.000 I want to get into the out-of-control establishment that Mr. Pchenik's been talking about and the danger of their hubris.

02:08:46.000 We're going to be speaking with him in a moment.

02:08:47.000 Also, I want to finish up with his geopolitical outlook and what's really happening in the Middle East.

02:08:52.000 But he said something very astute for stations that don't carry that first five minutes.

02:08:57.000 Very astute.

02:08:58.000 I said, I mean, obviously astute, but he really cut to the heart of it.

02:09:03.000 I said, why did they stage this?

02:09:06.000 At the core.

02:09:07.000 And obviously there's domestic reasons for re-election, police state, the defense complex, once it's no-bed contracts, it's trillions.

02:09:14.000 I mean, there's a cornucopia of reasons.

02:09:16.000 The globalists, the engineers of society always go with something if it hits on all cylinders for them, if it helps them on a multifaceted, multivariate level. 0.63

02:09:27.000 But I said, what's the core reason for this shoddy, ridiculous, Bin Laden's-been-killed fable internationally?

02:09:35.000 And obviously it's to now menace Pakistan, put pressure on them, but that's only part of it. 0.96

02:09:40.000 He said it's Iran. 0.96

02:09:42.000 It's a message that, look how ridiculous this is. 0.98

02:09:45.000 We don't care. 0.98

02:09:46.000 We will set you up, we will attack you, if you don't stop sending your people in trying to influence things in Bahrain, things of course in Lebanon, and other areas. 0.98

02:09:58.000 And he said it's a message to them.

02:10:00.000 It's meant for governments to be able to decipher it because it's so ham-fisted.

02:10:05.000 Now, I wanted to raise this, and we actually had We Are Change two years ago.

02:10:08.000 It's in, now three years ago, it's in...

02:10:12.000 My Cinema Verite documentary about 9-11 truth, Truth Rising, the 9-1-1 chronicles.

02:10:21.000 Gary Hart got confronted about this, but he wrote a letter, September 26, 2007, via the Huffington Post, but also had it sent to the Iranian embassy overseas, because they don't have one here, unsolicited advice for the government of Iran.

02:10:38.000 And he said, and you can go read the letter, he said, presuming that you are not actually ignorant enough to desire war with the United States, you might be well advised to read the history of the sinking of the USS Maine in Havana Harbor in 1898 and the history of the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964.

02:10:53.000 And he goes on to say, we staged terror attacks and we'll stage them again. 0.92

02:10:58.000 Do what you're told or we will nuke you. 0.98

02:11:02.000 Now Hart thinks we're so dumb, this was a letter for their intelligence people. 0.98

02:11:06.000 But when some of my great activist friends at We Are Change brought it up, he said, I never wrote that letter. 0.94

02:11:11.000 And they said, here he is.

02:11:12.000 And he kind of freaked out.

02:11:13.000 He goes, yeah, I did write that.

02:11:15.000 And that is what I meant.

02:11:17.000 So again, these globalists, they communicate with each other like adults.

02:11:22.000 But for us, they tell us, Bin Laden's still alive.

02:11:24.000 Easter Bunny's real.

02:11:26.000 Lucky Charms is real.

02:11:27.000 Keebler elves are real. 0.97

02:11:29.000 But this is exactly what Dr. Pachinik was just saying.

02:11:32.000 Here's Hart, this big, you know, top CFR globalist, you know, skittering around with the whole 9-11 operation, because I saw him publicly bragging on Hardball two months before 9-11, saying things are about to change, ha-ha-ha, and Matthews were having a little inside chuckle with each other, because he's psychopathic enough to brag publicly.

02:11:50.000 But continuing, Dr. Pucinich, that's exactly what you just said without me even raising this.

02:11:57.000 What's your take on what I just read to you?

02:12:00.000 Well, what you said is correct.

02:12:02.000 What's basically happening is that we are at war without, you know, the president literally saying we are at war in a very serious situation, which Unfortunately, I have to say this, that Secretary of Defense Gates is probably the most serious member of this entire administration, as he was of the Bush Jr.

02:12:24.000 Actually, there are many of us who worked for Bush Sr.

02:12:26.000 who really insisted on Gates coming in and getting rid of Rumsfeld for the simple reason that this man was director of the CIA.

02:12:33.000 He's a very non-ideological man.

02:12:35.000 Extremely intelligent, extremely oriented to understanding what America needs, not what the political requirements are in terms of the politicians.

02:12:47.000 And we are now in a very serious confrontation with Iran because the Iranians have, without a question, created a lot of disturbances both In Syria, and with the Syrians, Bashir Assad, who's also a physician, by the way, it's interesting, we physicians are in the business of counter-terrorism everywhere around the world, so I warn the Obama administration, if they don't give us reimbursements at the right place, we all go into terrorism. 0.97

02:13:13.000 That's a joke.

02:13:14.000 Nevertheless, we really have a problem, because Bahrain is there, and Saudi Arabia is there now. 0.94

02:13:21.000 The issue is it would have been nice, as you said, if the people on top would explain a thesis of what we are doing and where we are going.

02:13:30.000 We also have an economic war right now with China, which is quite serious, which gets to the issue of what you said about We are purposely dropping the dollar.

02:13:39.000 I mean, the Federal Reserve, whatever else can be said about Bernanke, is correctly dropping the dollar in order to go into economic warfare.

02:13:48.000 For 10 years at the National War College, I have requested economic warfare because it is the most effective mechanism that we in the United States have to undermine the Chinese economy, which is totally, totally controlled, totally corrupt, and allows us to bring back our manufacturing totally corrupt, and allows us to bring back our manufacturing and our productivity and reinvent what we are best at, which no other country in the world can do, which is entrepreneurship. 0.98

02:14:15.000 And basically, this lowering of the dollar is a way to say to the Chinese, you better watch us because we're going to undertud everything you have right now. 0.98

02:14:24.000 And as you've seen in China right now, there have been riots.

02:14:27.000 In a normal year in China, that's normal for them, there are over 75,000 riots.

02:14:32.000 Right now, they have riots of cab drivers that are refusing to work, of bus drivers that are refusing to work.

02:14:39.000 They know that the American government is Stimulating, creating activities, and the Chinese better listen carefully.

02:14:46.000 We are capable of taking down China if we want to. 0.99

02:14:50.000 When I was in China five years ago, the first question they asked me, because they knew I was an expert in regime change.

02:14:56.000 I don't need military regime change.

02:14:59.000 I've done four or five regime changes.

02:15:01.000 The Soviet Union, El Domoro, Panama, Cambodia, with far more lethal targets, where they asked me, And I was there on a business trip, Alex.

02:15:11.000 As you know, I'm really a businessman.

02:15:13.000 And they asked me, the first question was, are you here to take us down?

02:15:17.000 And obviously, I looked at them, and this is one of the heads of the intelligence community, and I said, no.

02:15:22.000 But clearly, I knew exactly the determinants of where they could be taken down.

02:15:28.000 And now, in the presence of these kids with the Middle East disruption, with the Facebooks, with the Twitter, they know that they're very vulnerable.

02:15:38.000 And one of the issues that we have right now, and I think correctly, is that we are talking with the Chinese To warn them, number one, you better raise the horn because we want to get rid of a lot of that debt that we owe to you. 1.00

02:15:53.000 We want to clear the deck of that.

02:15:54.000 That's the easiest way to do it.

02:15:56.000 Secondly, you better address the issues of middle class rising.

02:15:59.000 And thirdly, you better address the issues of human rights.

02:16:03.000 If we have Christian missionaries there, don't disrupt them.

02:16:07.000 Don't arrest people who want freedom.

02:16:09.000 So we have two fronts that are going on, but nobody's explaining that to the American public.

02:16:14.000 On the one hand, we have a war that's going on that's really targeted to Iran, and really a war between the Shiites and the Sunnis, where we're trying to support the Sunnis while at the same time, here's the irony of everything my friend, without getting too Much above it is that we have had to cut deals. 0.53

02:16:32.000 The military, our U.S.

02:16:34.000 military, is a very brave organization, but they're also very smart.

02:16:38.000 They had to cut deals with the Iranians in order to control part of Afghanistan and to control Iraq. 0.64

02:16:44.000 In order to do that, we had to tie down the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, while at the same time, we have to show them that we can go in there at any time we want and create disturbances. 0.85

02:16:55.000 Now, what makes this even more interesting is that Aminazad, who's the president of Iran, everybody thinks he's crazy.

02:17:03.000 I don't.

02:17:03.000 He was a very effective, he's a PhD in civil engineering, was a very effective leader.

02:17:08.000 He is now in an internal battle with Khamenei.

02:17:12.000 They're now claiming that his top advisors are devil worshippers.

02:17:16.000 That's correct.

02:17:16.000 Well, I don't know whether they're devil worshippers, but they're certainly not the most intelligent, brightest, Let me just stop you.

02:17:23.000 Let me just stop you. 0.99

02:17:24.000 Doc, let me just stop you because that sounds crazy.

02:17:26.000 Guys, pull up the London Guardian from Sunday.

02:17:30.000 The headline is, uh, Ahmadinejad's deputies charged with conjuring djinns.

02:17:37.000 You can't make this up.

02:17:38.000 That's what the Islamic regime, who decides if you can run for president, that's what they're charging his people with is divination. 0.97

02:17:45.000 That's it.

02:17:46.000 Yeah, no, no.

02:17:47.000 Let me just say this.

02:17:48.000 But it sounds crazy, so I have to let folks know I didn't make that up.

02:17:50.000 Let me just tell you, there's an internal battle going on in Iran.

02:17:54.000 They hear us, they're listening to us.

02:17:57.000 We're trying to affect that internal battle, we the United States, by positioning our forces and trying to attack and limit the number of agents that are standing overseas.

02:18:07.000 That's all I'm saying.

02:18:08.000 I'm not getting into the belief systems, the worship.

02:18:11.000 What's going on in Libya?

02:18:11.000 I understand.

02:18:13.000 What's going on in Libya?

02:18:15.000 Libya has been a mistake. 1.00

02:18:16.000 What happened in Libya is we had a lot of companies, including Halliburton, John Deere, a lot of the oil companies were in there, but primarily we have no strategic interest in Libya.

02:18:26.000 Libya is really a strategic interest only to one country more than any, and that is Italy has about 40 to 50 percent of its oil through ENI coming in through Libya.

02:18:37.000 So the disturbances that were occurring in Libya was really a spillover from Egypt.

02:18:43.000 And ironically, as you mentioned before, we brought back some of the Al-Qaeda members from Afghanistan and Pakistan.

02:18:51.000 And one of them was interviewed publicly saying, actually in the New York Times, what do you feel about America now?

02:18:57.000 He said, well before I was 100% against America, but now that America is supplying us with special forces, ammunition, and the Egyptians are helping us, I'm only 50% against America.

02:19:08.000 So you can understand what's happening now is a world where everything is very gray.

02:19:14.000 That's the point.

02:19:15.000 And what you're saying to the audience, and what we do agree, is why don't you explain this to the American public? 0.72

02:19:20.000 Stop treating us as if we're dummies.

02:19:23.000 Maybe we can't absorb all of it at one time, maybe we don't want to hear it. 0.76

02:19:27.000 But stop treating us like dummies, because number one, we have to pay for all of this.

02:19:31.000 Number two, it's getting out of hand.

02:19:34.000 Number three, we have to leave from Iraq and Afghanistan. 0.90

02:19:36.000 And number four, the only national security issue that's really relevant to any of us Americans is our national debt.

02:19:44.000 Alright, we're going to take calls for a while, but then we're going to get into the debt, banking before you leave us, and false flag terror.

02:19:51.000 Dr. Steve Pchenik is our guest.

02:19:53.000 I'm Alex Jones, InfoWars.com, Steve Pchenik.com is his site.

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02:24:29.000 Dr. Steve Pachinik, I want to go to Downey, John, Scott, Rich, Janice, and many others that are patiently holding.

02:24:39.000 This is a short segment, long segment's coming up.

02:24:43.000 But you were making a point about what you think's going to happen in the future.

02:24:45.000 You said things are going to start spinning faster and faster.

02:24:48.000 We were talking behind the scenes, now we came back live.

02:24:51.000 What point were you just now getting at?

02:24:54.000 Well, the economy is getting out of control.

02:24:56.000 Our unemployment is too high.

02:24:58.000 We're starting to be taxed.

02:25:00.000 As you see today, non-profit organizations need to pay taxes for water.

02:25:04.000 Our services in the cities are really falling apart.

02:25:07.000 Our infrastructure is falling apart.

02:25:09.000 We don't have an economic policy.

02:25:12.000 Our inflation rate will go up, as you correctly said.

02:25:15.000 We're in a war that we don't belong.

02:25:17.000 We have to pull our soldiers back.

02:25:20.000 The Middle East will erupt even further. 1.00

02:25:22.000 China will confront us even more vigorously. 0.70

02:25:25.000 But the issues really have to come back to the American public.

02:25:28.000 We have to take back the monies in these wars that are not effective, do not really touch our lives at this particular point in time, and really restructure the United States.

02:25:37.000 So that we become America first. 0.95

02:25:40.000 We really have to concern ourselves with building our infrastructures, building our national security in terms of the debt, and cutting back on the 850,000 individuals that have top secret clearance on counter-terrorism.

02:25:54.000 It's absurd! 0.83

02:25:56.000 It's absolutely ridiculous, and the American public is paying for all this ridiculous nonsense on terrorism that doesn't exist. 0.96

02:26:03.000 Our real terror issue is the financial crisis, which you said in one of the ads. 0.89

02:26:08.000 And now we have to focus on America, and we need a leader who understands how to be a non-ideological Hands-on, forceful, individual who's had a history of business experience and knows how to lead us forward in terms of the economy. 0.99

02:26:27.000 It's the economy that's stupid. 0.98

02:26:29.000 I'm sorry, I don't mean you, but it's what was said to Bush Sr. 1.00

02:26:32.000 It's the economy.

02:26:33.000 It still stands on that.

02:26:34.000 Doc, let me stop you.

02:26:35.000 Since this is a short segment, I promise we'll go directly to calls in the next.

02:26:38.000 Let's get into the economy now.

02:26:40.000 What do we do about the private central banks who make the giant bonuses, you know, take the tax money?

02:26:46.000 I mean, they're not going to stop doing what they're doing.

02:26:48.000 I mean, so where do you see America going?

02:26:50.000 What are the main crises facing us?

02:26:53.000 Well, number one, the banking system has to be rechanged.

02:26:56.000 It's absurd that none of the bankers were indicted, particularly Blank Fine.

02:27:00.000 Ron Rubin, who worked for Citibank, received $75 million, was very much in charge as a consultant for all the corruption that occurred in the subprime mortgages.

02:27:11.000 And he was asked, well, what did you do?

02:27:12.000 You received $75 million in bonus.

02:27:14.000 He said, well, I didn't know anything about it.

02:27:16.000 This is our former Secretary of the Treasury.

02:27:18.000 You're talking about Warren Buffett, who owned 40% of Moody's.

02:27:23.000 He took Double D rated junk subprimes and then reconverted it to AAA and sold it.

02:27:31.000 And Warren Buffett goes as the sanctimonious priest of entrepreneurship in America and says, no, I had nothing to do with it.

02:27:38.000 These are men who should be investigated.

02:27:41.000 They shouldn't be indicted and put in prison.

02:27:43.000 We are not going after the right individuals.

02:27:46.000 the head of Goldman Sachs, the head of J.P. Morgan, should be in prison, not just reprimanded.

02:27:52.000 But the reason why they're not is because it's a collusion.

02:27:54.000 This is not conspiracy.

02:27:56.000 This was even written by the American government in the financial crisis report.

02:28:00.000 I recommend that everybody read it.

02:28:02.000 There's an individual whom I don't know, Phil Angelides, who did a brilliant, brilliant analysis and commission report on how corrupt our banking system is, and it hasn't changed.

02:28:12.000 We have 21st century second-tier banking, which is not controlled, with all kinds of derivatives and all kinds of financial instruments that will, again, precipitate another financial crisis with 19th century regulation.

02:28:26.000 And we have individuals who are turning around in a turnstile who report, who work in our government, and they go back out into the private sector, and they have no loyalty to our country.

02:28:37.000 So our real problems now is really to indict and begin to investigate Wall Street without this nonsense of saying, you know, I know you did bad, but, you know, don't do it again.

02:28:49.000 And the answer is no, they go to prison.

02:28:52.000 Just take one guy who's in an Indian or Sri Lankan and put him in because there's an insider trading. 0.74

02:28:58.000 You put all of these heads in prison, and this is basically what comes out of the financial crisis inquiry report.

02:29:04.000 And you put a man like Greenspan, who knew what was happening, and hold him accountable instead of allowing him to go on the press and continue this nonsensical story.

02:29:14.000 Yes, I allowed the free trading company, the free trade to go on, and I allowed derivatives to go on, and CDOs and CDSs, but I'm not accountable.

02:29:23.000 That really was a blip in our economy.

02:29:26.000 Or the Paulsons who were brought in and knew nothing about our financial capabilities and investment banker.

02:29:31.000 Again and again, the names are out there, the reports are out there, but we don't have courageous politicians.

02:29:38.000 Wow, Dr. Steve Pachinick got a break.

02:29:40.000 Call straight ahead and before he leaves us, we'll get more into where we're going financially if this isn't reversed.

02:29:47.000 Very bold information.

02:29:49.000 Stay with us.

02:29:51.000 We're on the march.

02:29:52.000 The empire's on the run.

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02:33:07.000 Music.

02:33:09.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Downey in Texas.

02:33:12.000 You're on the air with Dr. Steve Pachanek.

02:33:14.000 Go ahead.

02:33:15.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:33:16.000 I'd like to ask the doctor, what is more embarrassing or dangerous, our intelligence agency's inept, inconsistent, unbelievable narrative, and the main media trying to fight it and defend it, or the fact that there are a great number of well-meaning Americans that believe the fairy tales?

02:33:35.000 Which one's more embarrassing?

02:33:37.000 Well, you know, you hit it on the head.

02:33:40.000 I think it's embarrassing that the intelligence narrative is so bizarre that the mainstream media, it's an indictment of the mainstream media and everybody involved in it, and it tells you that the New York Times and the Washington Post and all these so-called distinguished and it tells you that the New York Times and the Washington Post and all these so-called So I would agree that I think it's very embarrassing, the first one, but that's an excellent question. 0.94

02:34:08.000 And unfortunately, you bring up the point that they treat us as if we're dumb rummies. 0.51

02:34:13.000 And we're not.

02:34:14.000 Well, I want Downey to be able to ask another question and then have Dr. Pachenik elaborate, but I want to say this.

02:34:22.000 I think that's the method to the madness, is they're trying to get all of us to buy into it, torture being good, TSA sticking their hands down our pants, $2 million defense department cameras in one elementary school studying the kids in San Antonio.

02:34:38.000 All of this is over-the-top on purpose To give us learned helplessness, and you're a psychiatrist, you know about that, doctor.

02:34:47.000 But more importantly, they're testing the mainstream media and getting them to buy into things that are cartoonish to just train them to accept more and more crazy things.

02:34:57.000 It's like in the last nine years.

02:34:59.000 I see AP articles every month.

02:35:01.000 Bin Laden puts out new warning.

02:35:03.000 He will strike.

02:35:05.000 And then at the bottom it'll say, this came from a message board.

02:35:08.000 Well, let me say the most important part in my point of view.

02:35:12.000 I mean, doctor, isn't there some of that going on here, or is it just...

02:35:16.000 Well, let me say the most important part in my point of view.

02:35:19.000 I don't have to be a psychiatrist, but from a financial point of view, I think what you're seeing is the death, the death knell of the mainstream media.

02:35:28.000 In other words, as much as the president has been desperate and came out with this nonsensical story, what you're seeing is the mainstream media is converting from the so-called journalism that was really practiced very well at Columbia School and elsewhere into a cartoon.

02:35:45.000 They become graphic novels.

02:35:46.000 And the reason isn't so much they're trying to suppress us, the reason is They are losing money and they are in financial trouble.

02:35:55.000 You know, you follow the money trail in America and you find out what's the problem.

02:35:59.000 And instead of going back to what made them great, they're digging their hole deeper.

02:36:03.000 They're digging their hole deeper.

02:36:05.000 The hole is very deep.

02:36:07.000 I mean, the main holder who's given them a bond that they have to pay 14% interest on is a Mexican who owns the New York Times. 0.85

02:36:16.000 Now, the New York Times doesn't do an internal story on them.

02:36:19.000 The Washington Post is in trouble because the Internet is competing with them.

02:36:24.000 The Financial Times is basically an extension extension of Peterson International, which has never done very well.

02:36:30.000 They were the overseers of my publishing company, Berkeley.

02:36:33.000 They've never done well.

02:36:35.000 They now have a new president who's an accountant and basically really doesn't know anything.

02:36:39.000 They never made a profit.

02:36:41.000 So when you look at these elements and these financial institutions that tried to suppress us, it's not working anymore.

02:36:48.000 That's the comedy of the entire thing.

02:36:50.000 It's a tragic comedy because they have become, not newspapers, but graphic novels.

02:36:55.000 If you look at the front page of the New York Times, what's the mainline story?

02:36:59.000 Girls who go to the prom second night? 0.96

02:37:02.000 That's the major story that you want to know about?

02:37:05.000 Girls going to a prom when in fact the entire world is falling apart and there's more news on Alex Jones?

02:37:11.000 Well, how is the New York Times or MSNBC, which is also going under, because cable news networks are going under, the TV shows are going under.

02:37:20.000 They know that because I do TV shows.

02:37:22.000 ABC has not been effective.

02:37:25.000 NBC has not been effective. 0.98

02:37:27.000 All of these narcissistic fools that you see on there, lauding their own presence as commentators, have to compete with Alex Jones. 0.98

02:37:35.000 who's not seen and basically is heard and he has to say the truth. 0.99

02:37:39.000 So how are they going to compete with you, Alex?

02:37:41.000 They have financial troubles.

02:37:43.000 You may not.

02:37:44.000 I'm not interested.

02:37:45.000 But the point is you have a growing audience and the American public is not reading this nonsense anymore.

02:37:50.000 Well, that's the thing, Doc.

02:37:51.000 I mean, if they tried to do any real news with all of their money and power, we wouldn't be competition for them.

02:37:58.000 I mean, it's scary that a couple years ago I had 3 million listeners a week, and now we've done the numbers again lately.

02:38:05.000 It's more like 5 million a day radio, 2 million a day internet, just on one YouTube channel, 5 million views.

02:38:15.000 No.

02:38:15.000 Do you have to advertise on CNN to tell them?

02:38:15.000 No.

02:38:20.000 Well, then why is the New York Times advertising you and telling you why they are so important when they only have a readership of maybe $600,000?

02:38:28.000 No, that's what I'm saying is they're paper tigers.

02:38:30.000 That's my point.

02:38:31.000 I mean, one minute on MSNBC during prime time with half a million viewers costs $10,000, $15,000, $20,000.

02:38:37.000 An ad here with a bigger audience literally dwarfing it is $300.

02:38:43.000 So that's the last illusion to fall is that you paid 15, 20 times for something that is worth far less, and they know that that final shoe is dropping.

02:38:57.000 But we could talk forever with Dr. Pachinko.

02:38:59.000 I don't know, but the point here is not that.

02:39:02.000 The point is what the gentleman said.

02:39:04.000 It is embarrassing.

02:39:06.000 Not for us.

02:39:07.000 It's embarrassing for them because this is the death knell for them in buying the intelligence of false narratives and then reinventing the narratives and trying to dissect the narratives with comedy and absurdity.

02:39:22.000 So, you know, honestly, it's really an indictment of the system and the gentleman is absolutely correct.

02:39:29.000 Down anything else?

02:39:30.000 Yeah, my son's not going to believe I got on.

02:39:32.000 He's a ten-year-old and a big fan of yours, so I'll just say, A-Boy, that's his nickname, and I do have a question for you.

02:39:40.000 Do you have any plans for this coming 9-11?

02:39:42.000 It's a pretty big, you know... You know, I don't know.

02:39:47.000 Look, look, look, here's the deal.

02:39:49.000 I get invited all over the place and people want to pay me.

02:39:52.000 No exaggeration, I've been offered a lot of money to go speak at events.

02:39:56.000 I could pack Three, four times what Glenn Beck does.

02:39:56.000 I could do that.

02:40:00.000 But then to pay for it, you've got to sell tickets and stuff.

02:40:02.000 I just, more and more, I can electronically study, read, sit here in my little crow's nest and tell folks what's over the horizon.

02:40:12.000 And then we go over the horizon and there it is.

02:40:15.000 I can reach, no exaggeration, it's exponential.

02:40:18.000 I'm not bragging.

02:40:19.000 In fact, it's very daunting.

02:40:20.000 It's humbling because I realize I'm just a regular guy.

02:40:25.000 We're reaching, again, it was $3 million a day overall just a few months ago.

02:40:30.000 Now it's over $5 million.

02:40:32.000 And the growth curve is within six months we'll be reaching $10 million a day.

02:40:37.000 I could go to demonstrations in New York.

02:40:39.000 I could go down in Bullhorn Obama.

02:40:41.000 It's just those are peace shooters compared to what this electronic system can do.

02:40:46.000 Now getting the public to move onto the streets and to the state houses That's where the power is, and that's what I'm going to have Dr. Pachinik back on soon to talk about ways, ideas he's got to really get the American people moving.

02:40:59.000 But I appreciate your call, Downey, and I'm not bragging about the power of this show.

02:41:03.000 It actually freaks me out because I just feel like a regular common sense guy who's studied things.

02:41:08.000 This stuff's all very clear what's going on.

02:41:11.000 And the establishment, I think, is drinking their own Kool-Aid.

02:41:16.000 They basically poisoned the well of information, but then they drank from it.

02:41:19.000 John in Texas, you're on the air with Dr. Steve Pchenik of StevePchenik.com.

02:41:23.000 Go ahead, John.

02:41:25.000 Doctor and Alex, this is an honor.

02:41:27.000 I'm going to simplify what you all have been talking about, and I think, and I want the doctor's response on what I have to say.

02:41:33.000 But I believe that since World War II, the globalists and the corporatists have had an agenda To manipulate the world's assets and reserves, things of minerals and natural resources and things that are of value to large multinational corporations.

02:41:51.000 And I'm a firm believer that the resources of the American people have been mortgaged through the military-industrial complex and the CIA and all of these secret armies and illegal activities.

02:42:05.000 By the way, I think Osama is more or less a theatrical prop to benefit The globalist agenda to confiscate and materialize huge masses of wealth for their own benefit. 0.53

02:42:21.000 And I think patriotism has been confused with this globalist agenda.

02:42:27.000 And I think it's so simple.

02:42:28.000 We have been duped as Americans into believing that we've been fighting wars on terrorism when it all boils down very simply To taking the assets of sovereign nations with real people just like you and I in those countries who live there... Who, by the way, would sell them to us cheaper.

02:42:46.000 They would sell it to us, but then the military-industrial complex and the banks and others couldn't control those countries and couldn't make money in the stealing of it from us, the taxpayers.

02:42:57.000 But what's your question for Dr. Pecheneg?

02:42:59.000 Because what you're saying is just historical reality.

02:43:02.000 Well, let me say what Secretary of Defense Gates said.

02:43:05.000 Basically, supporting the military-industrial complex for more money and more acquisitions of absurd studies and equipment that we don't need, along the lines he said.

02:43:20.000 is not indicative of more patriotism.

02:43:23.000 If anything, less is more.

02:43:25.000 We have to go back to the concerns of our own country, as you implied, which means we have to develop our own oil resources.

02:43:35.000 In the United States, we have it.

02:43:37.000 In Montana, we have enough oil to equal what you have in Saudi Arabia. 0.67

02:43:42.000 We have to deal with our own water supplies, where we don't have to ship it overseas.

02:43:47.000 We have to be able to build our own infrastructure.

02:43:50.000 In short, the crux of our system, the kleptocracy that came out of the system, is not American and should be destroyed.

02:44:02.000 Simply as that.

02:44:03.000 The Wall Street, the transnational corporations, there's no reason why the oil companies shouldn't be taxed and shouldn't be held accountable.

02:44:11.000 They're not supplying the oil to the United States.

02:44:14.000 What their propaganda is, very simply, is the oil that we acquired in the Middle East doesn't go to America.

02:44:21.000 It goes to China and Japan. 0.74

02:44:23.000 So you're correct. 0.96

02:44:24.000 We're sending soldiers to protect pipelines Which don't really have any national security bearing, but people like Cheney, what I call the cowards and the alcoholics, like Cheney, who was a bum to begin with, and then Yale where he was thrown out, and then Wisconsin, who never fought a war, and refused to serve our country is typical of these transnational corporations, the military-industrial complex, where they're cowardly. 0.87

02:44:52.000 McCain was the most cowardly vice president I had ever met, who refused to serve eight times, and then in Bragadocio, this alcoholic bum from Texas goes out and now lives in Wyoming, I know exactly where he lives, and then insists that we go to war on behalf of his transnational oil companies from Texas and elsewhere. 0.93

02:45:12.000 And then the bum moves Halliburton to Dubai. 0.96

02:45:15.000 And that's Halliburton to Dubai.

02:45:17.000 And by the way, Halliburton was, as you know, the subsidiary of, it was LBJ's company, BB&R, which was then taken over.

02:45:23.000 And what's interesting is Cheney actually lost while he was CEO, net asset values of Halliburton.

02:45:29.000 But my point is very simple to the American public.

02:45:32.000 This is enough if we do not hold these leaders of the transnational corporations, of the banking world, and the President, who does represent the interests of the banking world, or Mr. Donlan, who represents Fannie Mae and the crookedness of it, or the Ben Rhodes, who's nothing more than a local politician from New York, or the Clintons, who have been, you know, it was really amazing when Clinton left office, he said, oh, I'm so poor.

02:45:56.000 Within years, he became a hundred millionaire.

02:45:59.000 And basically his wife, who was against the ports of Dubai, that Dubai bought our ports, while Clinton was supporting it.

02:46:07.000 We've got to move fast.

02:46:07.000 No, it's all staged.

02:46:09.000 We've got to move fast, Doc.

02:46:10.000 And it goes to the heart of our republic.

02:46:12.000 And we have to destroy this kind of kleptocracy. 1.00

02:46:15.000 Kleptocracy is a good word for it. 0.71

02:46:15.000 Period. 0.71

02:46:17.000 Crony kleptocracy. 0.96

02:46:18.000 It's a kleptocracy.

02:46:20.000 And that's what I think the gentleman's getting at.

02:46:21.000 Whatever you want to call it, it's a plebiscite.

02:46:24.000 I've got to get to these callers.

02:46:25.000 Thank you, John.

02:46:25.000 Very good points.

02:46:27.000 Scott in Texas, then Rich in Arizona, Janice in Minnesota, and then Dave in Long Island is all we've got time for.

02:46:33.000 Scott in Texas, go ahead.

02:46:35.000 Yeah, there's a, uh, thanks for taking my call.

02:46:37.000 God bless you guys.

02:46:37.000 Listen, two things real quick.

02:46:39.000 In that staged Situation Room photo, I was noticing how Obama just sitting there looking like a whipped dog.

02:46:45.000 If there was a picture taken a few seconds earlier, it probably shows him serving coffee.

02:46:49.000 I mean, presidential is the last thing he looks like in that picture.

02:46:52.000 I don't know why they put that one out.

02:46:53.000 Well, Rahm Emanuel, his little friend, his little ballet dancer helper, in public, the New York Times reported, cracks his knuckles, does fist things in front of the congressional delegations, and bosses Obama around in front of him like he literally is his valet.

02:47:09.000 Dr. Pachinik comments.

02:47:12.000 Well, I think it's a bizarre relationship to begin with.

02:47:15.000 That's why I said, and a deep, fair warning to Obama, that I think the longer he goes out and propagates this nonsense and narrative with Donlan there and with Daley from the Chicago Machinery, it's going to open up questions about his relationship with Rami Emanuel, who got a master's degree in ballet, and he himself has a question questionable history, how he came to that position, but what's a disconnect.

02:47:40.000 And here's the important part, Alex, and my dear friends on the show.

02:47:45.000 If you were to have an individual, a woman, and now follow me for a minute, who in 1960s on her own had a Ph.D. and went out to a, this is a Christian woman who goes into a Muslim country like Indonesia and serves our country this is a Christian woman who goes into a Muslim country like Indonesia and serves our country bravely, teaching but doing other things that are for I think I would be pretty proud of my mother if that were her.

02:48:13.000 Well, that turns out to be Obama's mother.

02:48:16.000 Now, there is a major disconnect.

02:48:18.000 Between this man, who looks like he's really zombied out most of the time.

02:48:22.000 He has no major affect.

02:48:25.000 He is bossed around.

02:48:26.000 I often find that he's bossed around by his wife.

02:48:29.000 I mean, I find it bizarre that Michelle leaves on the President's birthday with a girlfriend in Spain.

02:48:36.000 All of this is bizarre, but the most bizarre is this disconnect between a woman who is exceedingly brave Well, there's no doubt.

02:48:43.000 America goes into a country that was exceedingly dangerous for the years of living dangerously into Indonesia and then turns out to be the mother of Obama. 0.85

02:48:56.000 Well, there's no doubt.

02:48:57.000 I mean, as you know, you just said CIA operatives.

02:49:00.000 So you have that same intel?

02:49:01.000 Yeah, I mean, Madsen's correct.

02:49:04.000 It's not just that, but I checked it up beyond that.

02:49:07.000 When you worked for the East-West Center, which I was involved with because I was Deputy Assistant Secretary of East Asia, that's in Hawaii, and you worked for the CIA one way or the other.

02:49:18.000 You're funded.

02:49:20.000 A Ph.D.

02:49:21.000 woman who teaches Russian and learns Russian in the 1950s and 60s should be very proud she worked for the CIA.

02:49:27.000 Now, let me explain this to the audience.

02:49:28.000 Working for the CIA is not anathema.

02:49:31.000 They have protected our country during the 50s and 60s and 70s.

02:49:36.000 What's anathema is that the degradation that has happened to the CIA and the rest of the intelligence community because they were taken over by people who insisted that this intelligence network, which has been very valuable to our national security, now serve domestic purposes and purposes that don't fit on the national security system.

02:49:57.000 But if I had a mother who had been in the CIA and served my country and put her life at stake in a Muslim country in 1960, my God, I would stand up and say, I am very proud. 1.00

02:50:09.000 There's a total disconnect here.

02:50:11.000 This president doesn't say anything about a mother.

02:50:13.000 Best he says is, she's a hippie. 1.00

02:50:15.000 That was no hippie.

02:50:17.000 A woman who's studying Russian and goes into Indonesia, works for the Export-Import Bank, the Hawaiian East-West Center.

02:50:25.000 Those are facts.

02:50:26.000 That's not something that's made up.

02:50:28.000 Matson, by the way, I do not know him, but I know his clearances were a lot higher than my clearances if you're working at the National Security Agency, for sure.

02:50:36.000 My point is, if you put it all together, we have a very dangerous situation.

02:50:41.000 We're a president whose background has been questionable at best, whose performance is questionable at best, whose next speech next week will be about how he killed Osama Bin Laden and how that fits into the riots in the Middle East, which I have no idea become even more bizarre.

02:50:58.000 Who is fronting, for the best of it, as I can understand, for politicians and businessmen who are from Wall Street, who've never been indicted for kleptocracy.

02:51:07.000 We have a Republican and a Democratic political body that is totally cowardly, whose only interest is self-aggrandizement. 0.73

02:51:16.000 And we have an American public that's waiting to erupt to say, cease and desist all this nonsense. 0.93

02:51:22.000 Our major concern has to be the debt.

02:51:25.000 Absolutely.

02:51:26.000 Doc, we're almost out of time.

02:51:27.000 Let's go to some more calls.

02:51:29.000 Scott, real fast, anything else?

02:51:30.000 It's all fake and they admit it is.

02:51:31.000 out of time let's go to some more calls scott real fast anything else yeah i thought i think it's insulting that they tell us that obama was or osama was still uh masterminding and orchestrating all of this stuff and then they show us this picture and his hq's got two old tvs a vcr and a laptop i mean that makes financial security look ridiculous it's all fake and they admit it is you're absolutely correct i mean it's all fake folks you're right i mean I mean, literally, him and Emanuel are dancing around in women's clothing.

02:51:56.000 I mean, it's just ridiculous. 0.94

02:51:58.000 Rich in Arizona, you're on the air. 0.50

02:51:59.000 Go ahead.

02:52:03.000 Go ahead, Rich.

02:52:03.000 Sorry, gentlemen.

02:52:04.000 I had to turn my speaker off.

02:52:05.000 So, I had a question for Dr. Pchenik, and also, if you'll allow me to, I wanted to make just a quick comment of kind of my own observations of the mentality in our country now.

02:52:15.000 Uh, to get to the country, here's my observation.

02:52:17.000 I wanted to see if I could validate it with, uh, obviously a very high ranking official.

02:52:21.000 Here's the kind of what I think is that if you, you know, if you pay attention to the news that had come out, you know, a couple of Sundays ago, they hit it late, they go out and they just come up with a complete fable.

02:52:34.000 Everybody in the house has a gun.

02:52:35.000 There's a 40 minute firefight.

02:52:37.000 You know, and the whole story unravels, but what I think, and what it seems to me, is that really all that matters, and I wanted to know if this was the strategy, is just whatever we say first is what the public will believe.

02:52:50.000 We can say whatever we want at first, because as the details come out, it's going to be shrugged off. 0.77

02:52:55.000 And once the mainstream whore media, the dying dinosaur, signs on to a lie, they're now committed to go along with it. 0.70

02:53:04.000 Dr. Pucinich, what's your comment on what Rich is saying? 0.87

02:53:07.000 You both articulated it brilliantly.

02:53:09.000 I think you're correct.

02:53:10.000 Whatever they say first is what they think, and then the dying dinosaur goes along with the lie, and they're both going to become extinct.

02:53:17.000 That's what happens.

02:53:18.000 Anything else, Reg?

02:53:19.000 Yeah.

02:53:20.000 Well, yeah, whatever they say first is the so-called reality.

02:53:24.000 Also, if you'll allow me a couple of seconds, just a brief... Sure.

02:53:28.000 So I had a conversation with a woman at work. 0.98

02:53:30.000 Like I said, this is a little off topic, but it illustrates the mindset.

02:53:33.000 Talking about organic foods with a woman at work.

02:53:36.000 This woman that I work with literally believed, I laughed at her, she literally believed that you should not go organic because she was led to believe by going organic and meaning even food, cosmetics, deodorant, shampoo, everything, that it lowers your body's immune system. 0.84

02:53:51.000 It's the opposite, it's the opposite when your body...

02:53:55.000 Well, you're a doctor.

02:53:55.000 Tell us that, Doc.

02:53:56.000 I mean, is it good to have to live in a bubble?

02:53:59.000 The organic systems, the natural products are antioxidants.

02:54:03.000 They help our immune systems collectively.

02:54:06.000 A friend of mine, my partner, John Neustadt, and I have the website, NDI Health, and we produce products for natural health, like Osteo-K for osteoporosis, but that's totally opposite.

02:54:19.000 Well, I mean, if that was true, the bubble boy wouldn't have been sick and had to live in a bubble because he had no immune system. 0.98

02:54:25.000 You need to... People that have dogs, their immune system gets better. 0.99

02:54:29.000 Yeah, but I thank you for the comment, but the point about who says things first does stick, but unfortunately in modern times, they're reverting back to stories that make no sense after they've made that first idiotic statement.

02:54:43.000 By the way, Doc, since you raised that, because you won't let me plug your bugs or anything you're doing, I'm glad you brought up your big passion, your health products, some of which go directly to doctors.

02:54:55.000 Tell folks about your health website.

02:54:58.000 Well, it's called Nutritional Biochemistry.

02:55:01.000 Years ago, what I did in one of my businesses was I was very tired of watching women taking Actonel, Fizomax, and Boniva and noticing that there was an increased amount of esophageal bleeding, cancer of the jaw. 0.98

02:55:15.000 And my partner and I, John Neustadt at nbihealth.com, five years ago in Bozeman, Montana, we developed a product that was approved the natural product is MK4.

02:55:26.000 It's a form of vitamin K2, which does not clot.

02:55:29.000 And in Japan, in 1999, it was approved as a medicine for osteoporosis.

02:55:35.000 And I said, my God, this is what the American public needs.

02:55:39.000 We have 39 million women who have osteoporosis. 0.54

02:55:43.000 They have side effects.

02:55:44.000 They have pain.

02:55:44.000 They have joint pain.

02:55:46.000 And the Actin-L-Phi-Samec products have over 900 lawsuits, which Sally feels propagating this product.

02:55:54.000 And it talked about movie stars who came out of the left and decided to make more money.

02:55:59.000 I said, and my partner John Newstead at NBI Health said, we're going to produce this product and people are going to enjoy it.

02:56:05.000 So if you go to the NBI Health site, you'll see testimonials from women whom we didn't solicit anything saying how it's improved, decreased their fracture rate, how osteoporosis has improved, the bone density has improved.

02:56:18.000 And what the product really does, it's a natural vitamin K2, which increases the collagen strength of the bone, not just bone density, because bone density in and of itself doesn't mean very much.

02:56:30.000 And most of the products that you see only increase fractures by 16% or prevent fractures by 50%.

02:56:37.000 Calcium and vitamin D is not sufficient.

02:56:40.000 So that's what I did.

02:56:41.000 But I don't want to minimize what we've been talking about.

02:56:44.000 And I made a specific purpose.

02:56:46.000 But Alex was so kind and so generous that he offered to allow us to, one, publicize on your site.

02:56:53.000 That was not an initial condition.

02:56:55.000 So for truth and Honestly, and secondly, he's asked me to discuss a little bit about osteoporosis, but I think that the audience should really look at our website, read the references, read what's there in terms of what we discovered, and the Japanese Ministry of Health mandated that as a medicine, and I think that'll be very helpful, but I'd like to get back to the political.

02:57:20.000 Absolutely.

02:57:21.000 Now, I've already had you for an hour and 55 minutes.

02:57:23.000 I only want to do five.

02:57:26.000 This is so important to me that I have to tell the audience why Alex is important to me.

02:57:34.000 At a time when I came out ten years ago, I didn't look for any publicity, as Alex knows, and I'm not really interested in publicity.

02:57:41.000 I had gone on TV shows after 9-11 and explained what happened, and most of the mainstream media was really a disaster, as you subsequently learned.

02:57:51.000 But Alex Jones was kind enough to put me on the radio show, and I said at that time, this is a false flag.

02:57:58.000 It was a stand-down.

02:57:59.000 This is a classical technique that's been used for years.

02:58:02.000 Alex knew about it.

02:58:03.000 The audience knew about it. 0.52

02:58:04.000 But everybody, of course, put me in the category of saying he's kooky, he's crazy, or basically he's a right-winger, or he's a conspiracy theorist.

02:58:12.000 Fortunately enough, Cheney, Rumsfeld and those I worked with, the neocons kept their mouths shut because I warned them if they had anything to say it would get more and more drastic.

02:58:21.000 And they learned the lesson then.

02:58:23.000 Robert Gates was brought in, fortunately, because Bush Sr., who's an incredible statesman, understood that Bush Jr.

02:58:30.000 was out of control.

02:58:32.000 But, let's jump forward.

02:58:34.000 Stay there, sir.

02:58:35.000 Back in one minute, then we'll go to Janice and Dave, and that'll be it with Dr. Steve Pucinich.

02:58:39.000 Back in one minute in Overdrive.

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03:00:18.000 We gotta get Dr. Pachinik back on, because every time he tells me something, I go look it up and it's true.

03:00:23.000 He was talking about when he was at the RAND Corporation, he was the main guy developing the takedown plan for the Soviet Union via Afghanistan with Brzezinski.

03:00:32.000 I mean, the stories this guy could tell, because we've got the big national Russian TV calling up, wanting to get Ola Pachinik to have him on.

03:00:39.000 I said, why do they want you on?

03:00:40.000 He goes, well, because I helped bring him down.

03:00:42.000 Dr. Pachinik, you know, we'll give you a break for a few weeks, but I want to get you back on to just talk about...

03:00:48.000 Bring me back next week if you want to, but basically the takedown of the Soviet Union was done at the request of Dr. Richard Solomon, who has been the head of the RAND Corporation.

03:00:56.000 I have nothing to do with Brzezinski, and he asked me to develop a plan, which is 153 pages on psychological determinants for the takedown of the Soviet Union, and I used the rock and roll of the Pope, who was very, very helpful to us, the military budget, SDI, Reagan Reagan was exceedingly helpful.

03:01:15.000 We worked with him and then Reagan brought me back in and I worked with some members of the CIA.

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03:01:31.000 We're all involved in the takedown of the Soviet Union, but it was not given to us.

03:01:35.000 We literally had a program in the first hundred days to take down the Soviet Union. - But did Brzezinski pick up on that plan?

03:01:41.000 Because I know, I mean, you were in the White House when Brzezinski was there, correct?

03:01:46.000 At that time?

03:01:47.000 Well, no, I was in the State Department and Brzezinski was actually attacking the man I was working with, who was a wonderful Secretary of State, Cyrus Vance.

03:01:54.000 Internally, we had a very major fight between Brzezinski and Cyrus Vance.

03:01:59.000 I have nothing against Brzezinski.

03:02:01.000 I think he's a very smart individual, but I was in the State Department at the time, and the war was between Brzezinski and Carter.

03:02:07.000 He couldn't control it.

03:02:08.000 I worked for Warren Christopher and Cyrus Vance, and he was a very nice gentleman.

03:02:12.000 And then I worked on Camp David and Carter.

03:02:15.000 Quick question from Janice in Minnesota, and then Dave.

03:02:17.000 his fans and Warren Christopher.

03:02:19.000 And unfortunately, Warren Christopher just died a month ago, a very great deputy secretary of state and also a great secretary of state.

03:02:26.000 He was a Democrat.

03:02:27.000 And as I said to you, both Democrats, Republicans are capable and are also incompetent.

03:02:33.000 All right, let's quickly jam in two more.

03:02:35.000 Quick question from Janice in Minnesota.

03:02:37.000 And then Dave, quick question, Janice.

03:02:39.000 Okay, I don't have a quick question.

03:02:42.000 I I heard you, Dr. Pachenik, on Coast to Coast the other night, and I was very shocked at the comment you made.

03:02:51.000 You started talking about politics, and I understand you're quite the insider and so on, as far as your knowledge, and I do respect that.

03:02:58.000 However, when you said that the greatest president that we have had in modern times is Herbert Walker Bush, the senior, I was just quite taken aback because he was ahead of the CIA.

03:03:13.000 I got your question, we gotta move.

03:03:15.000 What's your statement?

03:03:18.000 Let me just correct it.

03:03:19.000 For me, I was asked who did I think for me was the most important president in terms of foreign policy and I said I felt he was very seriously undervalued and really nobody talked about what he had accomplished.

03:03:33.000 You're saying compared to Obama and Jr.

03:03:35.000 and Clinton and all these people... Yeah, I mean he was really quite effective and very modest.

03:03:40.000 You never heard of what he did.

03:03:42.000 And he did a lot.

03:03:43.000 Took down the Apartheid.

03:03:44.000 Forget the other things.

03:03:45.000 He was involved in the takedown of the Soviet Union.

03:03:47.000 He was involved in the takedown of Debussan.

03:03:49.000 He was involved in the takedown of Mengistu.

03:03:52.000 He was involved in the takedown of Noriega.

03:03:54.000 I mean, what this gentleman did quietly, and he was involved in the Ethiopian I mean, this man did a lot in foreign policy and never said a word.

03:04:05.000 He and Brent Scowcroft were amazing.

03:04:08.000 And so we do have presidents who are quite distinguished.

03:04:12.000 Whether you like it or not, what he did domestically is another issue.

03:04:15.000 I'm just talking from my point of view.

03:04:17.000 I'm not an insider, quite frankly.

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03:04:38.000 None of which means anything to anybody and a member of the red carpet lounge at United Airlines.

03:04:44.000 Hold on, hold on, we can't end it there.

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03:04:47.000 We gotta come back and finish up with that.

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03:08:13.000 That's going to be it for calls.

03:08:14.000 But before we go to Dave, this final caller, what does Tom Clancy think about what you're doing?

03:08:21.000 Because I was reading the synopsis of Coast to Coast AM a few nights ago.

03:08:27.000 When you were on, I guess it would be Tuesday night, I read some of the synopsis yesterday, was unable to listen because I had to get some shut-eye because you were on late, but the quote I saw was that you were talking about you're working on some new books with Tom Clancy, but what's Tom Clancy's view?

03:08:46.000 If you can, I mean, not speak for him, but on...

03:08:49.000 I haven't talked to him in a while, but basically, Tom is a very realistic, smart individual who understands psychological warfare.

03:08:58.000 He's also very funny, what I said.

03:08:59.000 I mean, when you work with him, he's an exceedingly smart, witty individual who understands the dynamics of what's going on.

03:09:09.000 I can't speak on his behalf.

03:09:10.000 I haven't seen him in a while.

03:09:12.000 But he's, you know, I really don't know what he thinks right now in terms of Obama and Osama.

03:09:20.000 And quite frankly, the books we worked on, the various books prior to that and the books that he had, You know, there was always a sense of human reality testing, which is lacking in this country right now.

03:09:33.000 Number one, we do have a need of humor on behalf of some of the people who take themselves so seriously.

03:09:39.000 They're very pretentious.

03:09:40.000 Particularly our political leaders, you know, whether it's the head of the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, they seem to be very pompous and self-righteous.

03:09:49.000 And good God, you know, every pronouncement sounds as if this was from the words of God.

03:09:56.000 And at the same time, somebody pointed out correctly, your listeners, that Obama doesn't seem to be there.

03:10:03.000 There seems to be what I call a dissociation between the man and his emotions.

03:10:08.000 He's got a very flat affect, what we call very flat, and people pick that up.

03:10:13.000 It's almost as if he's not connected to the message he's saying, yet when he's on the trail, he just loves to shake hands.

03:10:21.000 Be it as it may, you know, people will have different perspectives as to what Tom thinks.

03:10:27.000 I really don't know.

03:10:27.000 You'd have to interview him and it would be interesting to hear.

03:10:31.000 Let me throw this out there because you are a psychiatrist and a psych warfare expert.

03:10:36.000 Myself individually, obviously when I was 25, I wanted to impress women.

03:10:42.000 But that was about it.

03:10:43.000 I don't like awards or attention.

03:10:45.000 I mean, I do this because it's a mission.

03:10:48.000 I don't like tyranny.

03:10:49.000 I don't like bullies running my life.

03:10:51.000 I'd rather go fishing and hang out with my kids and, you know, play tennis or whatever or oil paint with them.

03:10:57.000 And as I've gotten a little more power, a little more influence, and learn more, I get more and more humble, and more and more freaked out by, you know, tenuous, uh, transitory human power.

03:11:09.000 But then I study these elites, and on average, they love awards ceremonies.

03:11:14.000 They love primping and posing.

03:11:16.000 Uh, the more power they get, they relish the crowds.

03:11:19.000 They relish the applause.

03:11:21.000 When I walk out to 2,000 people and they People are crying and clapping.

03:11:25.000 It's like embarrassing because I realize I'm just human and I'm going, my God, I better do a good job.

03:11:30.000 These people are looking up to me.

03:11:31.000 That seems like a normal, you know, I guess in the hierarchy of needs perspective.

03:11:36.000 Now, all I want is a future for my children and for them to have a future with other people.

03:11:41.000 I have gone to that pure mode of seeing how short life is.

03:11:47.000 understanding that we're all part of a larger community.

03:11:49.000 And then I see the worldliness of the merger of Hollywood and politics and these people relishing it.

03:11:56.000 And, you know, you're calling it narcissism, but it seems to go beyond that.

03:12:01.000 And I don't mean to talk about myself, but just analyzing my position, that as you get more power, you tend to become more humble.

03:12:10.000 But then I look at most people in power, they become more arrogant, more wild, more reckless with hubris, but...

03:12:17.000 But I realize as you get more power that, like Spider-Man says, with great power comes great responsibility.

03:12:24.000 Now I'm still decisive from research.

03:12:28.000 I know you have to be decisive, but that comes from research and already having preset decisions I've made.

03:12:33.000 But still it makes you nervous because if you make a mistake, it has a bigger effect.

03:12:39.000 But these guys, they just think power is the prima facie authorization to do whatever they want.

03:12:48.000 I mean, do you get where I'm going?

03:12:49.000 Yes, the difference between you, my friend, and myself and them.

03:12:53.000 I was promoted to Brigadier General status 07.

03:12:58.000 I turned it down.

03:12:59.000 I was asked to go on.

03:13:01.000 I turned all of that down just like you did.

03:13:03.000 I was not interested.

03:13:04.000 The difference between you, who's somebody who's very grounded, understands what it is despite what the press will say.

03:13:11.000 You're a conspirator and all that.

03:13:12.000 That's nonsense.

03:13:14.000 The difference between you and And you're wanting to learn, and the politician who wants to self-aggrandize is the difference between an American who's stable and a narcissist, a politician who has to self-aggrandize and has nothing that he or she has accomplished.

03:13:33.000 So when you look at these politicians, you're really looking at movie stars.

03:13:37.000 The problem I had on television, creating television shows or even novels, is that the movie star is the least important person.

03:13:44.000 They're the ones who are saying your words, i.e.

03:13:47.000 the writer's words, and the creator or the executive producer, where they think they're really the center of attraction.

03:13:53.000 Well, the problem with narcissists and its belated narcissism is that these politicians genuinely, genuinely believe after a while that they are important.

03:14:02.000 In fact, if you take them away from their telephone and their position, they have no relevance.

03:14:08.000 So what happens?

03:14:09.000 They become so-called lobbyists, and then they get money for nothing more than being egregious and pandering to the next level.

03:14:17.000 And this is what's happening.

03:14:19.000 We went from a product-oriented country to a very sensible country of real people producing real products to a country of process producing nothing more than process and paper bushing and individuals who are intercessors for intercessors with nothing more for their sense of self-worth than the fact that they were deputy to the deputy to the deputy of the deputy.

03:14:45.000 And this is out of control and this is what's happened.

03:14:48.000 That's why the only institution that I can respect within the American hierarchical system is really the military.

03:14:56.000 Why?

03:14:56.000 Because it's very tough to be on the ground and fighting and having a sense of discipline and self-discipline and being shot at and caring about whether you are a captain or a major.

03:15:08.000 You really have to go through the system.

03:15:11.000 And you really have to be accountable for life and death.

03:15:14.000 That's why you and I have respect for physicians.

03:15:16.000 We have respect for those who create, you know, whether it's a person who drives a truck, his responsibility is to make sure that he can deliver the goods.

03:15:26.000 Or whether it's a mechanic, or whether it's anybody, it doesn't matter what it is.

03:15:30.000 There is no one in your audience who's going to advance him or herself on the basis of saying how important they think they should be.

03:15:38.000 The only ones who do that are really, by definition, sociopaths, because they have no sense of guilt, they have no sense of consequence, so they can say anything they want.

03:15:47.000 The president is a typical example of that, be it this president, a Democrat, or a Republican like Bush Jr., who had no sense of consequences, had never performed successfully in any of his feet.

03:16:01.000 And then you have Clinton, who clearly was fellated in the White House.

03:16:05.000 How much sociopath can you have there?

03:16:08.000 Then you have his wife, who can tell you the broadest lies in the world, and then still tell you how important she feels she is and writes a book that she never even wrote.

03:16:17.000 So we have created a culture of sociopathy, which is more dangerous than narcissism.

03:16:23.000 And that's what makes the difference between the Alex Jones Show and the audience and the American government that so-called representatives.

03:16:30.000 They don't represent us. 0.93

03:16:32.000 It's not real anymore.

03:16:33.000 They're in the Wizard of Oz, the Wizard of Sociopathy.

03:16:36.000 They are now really sociopaths who are doing nothing more than self-aggrandize and extending their own narcissism to each other.

03:16:46.000 When you talk about process, it's as if the paper-pushing BS factories are waging war against the farms, the ranches, the industry.

03:16:59.000 I mean, they state they are.

03:17:00.000 And so the false reality can't exist with those of us in reality.

03:17:05.000 And so that's the problem.

03:17:06.000 They won't leave us alone.

03:17:10.000 That's where we began to have a revolution.

03:17:14.000 I don't think anybody understands the history very well.

03:17:17.000 The American public, contrary to any other world government, we did not tolerate King George.

03:17:23.000 We did not tolerate in the French Revolution, Louis XVI.

03:17:27.000 What we have now is a variation of Louis XVI.

03:17:31.000 Feed them cake.

03:17:32.000 We'll take over and take care of you. 0.99

03:17:34.000 No, you can't.

03:17:35.000 You don't even know how to take care of yourselves.

03:17:36.000 We have the farmers, we have the ranchers, we have the mechanics, the truck drivers, the doctors.

03:17:42.000 Do you know what the designation of an MD is now?

03:17:44.000 My daughter was designated.

03:17:46.000 An MD is a home care.

03:17:48.000 Home health provider or health provider.

03:17:50.000 Do you believe that after 10 years of education?

03:17:53.000 Yeah, the bureaucrats are taking titles away from people that really deserve the position and the responsibility. 1.00

03:18:01.000 Again, the scum is waging war against reality. 0.99

03:18:04.000 Final call. 1.00

03:18:05.000 Dave in Long Island.

03:18:06.000 You're on the air.

03:18:07.000 Go ahead.

03:18:08.000 Hey, Alex.

03:18:09.000 Hey, Dr. Buchanek.

03:18:10.000 Um, can I ask you guys a question and the fellas out there in radio land?

03:18:14.000 Yeah, we only got a minute and a half.

03:18:15.000 Go ahead.

03:18:16.000 If a private person or a private mercenary group or another government claimed that they killed Osama bin Laden and they gave the same story, they threw the body overboard, the phony picture, the story isn't straight.

03:18:29.000 If a private person came back to the United States and said, oh yeah, I just killed Osama bin Laden, would we buy that?

03:18:34.000 No.

03:18:34.000 Would anybody buy that?

03:18:39.000 That's a great point, that's a great point, Dr. My point is, is if we're not going to buy it from any scenario like that, why should we buy it from the government?

03:18:53.000 You shouldn't.

03:18:54.000 Why shouldn't we?

03:18:55.000 That's why we're saying it.

03:18:56.000 That's why you gotta tell your congressmen in Long Island, all those people there who represent you.

03:19:01.000 Get out.

03:19:02.000 and start telling the truth.

03:19:04.000 Well, there's no doubt the White House is definitely on top of this.

03:19:06.000 So is all their dinosaur media people stumbling along on their last leg.

03:19:11.000 And Dave, great point, great tail gunner caller to end the broadcast that way.

03:19:15.000 Dr. Pachinik, stevepachinik.com.

03:19:17.000 Look forward to having you up again in the near future.

03:19:20.000 You've been very gracious.

03:19:21.000 And I'll say bye to you here at the break.

03:19:23.000 But thank you for joining us today.

03:19:24.000 Thank you, and thank you, audiences.

03:19:27.000 It's been wonderful.

03:19:28.000 It's really an honor to be on.

03:19:29.000 It's been an honor to be on with you folks. 0.98

03:19:31.000 You can agree with him, disagree with him, but the point is he's had a lot of courage and made a lot of good points and is also Independently, separately from our analysis pointed out, these people are at war against everything decent, everything wholesome, because they're hollow scum.

03:19:49.000 And they think it will expand their power if real people don't exist, when they wouldn't exist if it wasn't for us.

03:19:57.000 Things are way out of balance.

03:19:58.000 Retransmission with Key Intel.

03:20:00.000 Straight ahead.

03:20:00.000 Info.

Alex Jones Show - May 12, 2011

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