Alex Jones Show - 20111013_Thu_Alex

00:00:04.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:10.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

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00:00:20.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, this is a maximum alert, a maximum alert for all info warriors and people that love peace and liberty worldwide.

00:00:33.000 Maximum alert.

00:00:35.000 Alex Jones here, coming to you from my home.

00:00:38.000 I knew this was big two days ago when they said they foiled the Iranian plot to blow up the Uh, Saudi Embassy in D.C.

00:00:46.000 and assassinate people claiming that it was Mexican drug cartels.

00:00:50.000 I knew that that was a cover for the Fast and Furious subpoenas that they knew were imminent the next day or yesterday.

00:00:58.000 Since then, Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer, who you better believe speaks for some of the better elements of the Pentagon and of the ruling elite of this country.

00:01:08.000 He's reported in part of very important think tanks, heavily involved in trying to kill bin Laden, has blown the whistle on a lot of 9-11 stuff, the Super Congress.

00:01:16.000 When he basically is unleashed to come out and say something, you know it's important.

00:01:22.000 Paul Watson's article Uh, is up at InfoWars.com.

00:01:26.000 FBI insider, Obama administration, likely manufactured dubious terror plot.

00:01:32.000 Uh, and Shaffer talked to a high-level FBI agent with clearances who knows that it's not in the system, that there was not a plot.

00:01:40.000 Repeat, not a plot.

00:01:42.000 Then, and again, people think I'm quick.

00:01:44.000 I'm not really quick.

00:01:46.000 A lot of this was hiding in plain view.

00:01:47.000 I knew there'd be some false flag or buildup for war.

00:01:51.000 As the spokescreen for Obama's approval rating plunging, the fast and furious coming out, the Democrats calling for him not to run.

00:01:57.000 And I said last week, if they don't start pulling a new war or false flag, Obama will be toast in one month.

00:02:04.000 Then I discovered that a member of my family, who's an army officer, is being sent to Kuwait and was very tight-lipped.

00:02:10.000 And then I made some other calls and confirmed, it's a green light attack!

00:02:15.000 Israeli strike on Iran!

00:02:17.000 Repeat, within two weeks!

00:02:19.000 T-minus two weeks.

00:02:20.000 It could happen tomorrow.

00:02:21.000 It could happen next week.

00:02:22.000 But the main forces and logistics forces for a U.S.

00:02:27.000 backstrike of the Israelis is building up in Kuwait and surrounding areas right now.

00:02:33.000 This is an absolute mega alert.

00:02:35.000 I'm telling you, ladies and gentlemen, it could not be any more hardcore.

00:02:42.000 My phone rings ten times in a row until I jumped off the treadmill this morning and went over and got it.

00:02:48.000 Dr. Steve Pachinick.

00:02:49.000 And he basically, we know he's establishment, he's run overthrows of major governments, and we know he represents an element of the Pentagon.

00:02:57.000 He said, you know the Pentagon knows there's going to be a strike, the bunker busters have been delivered to Israel, we don't want this, that's why Schaefer's gone public.

00:03:05.000 And he basically put his cards on the table, as if any of us needed him to, and just said, you know, Well, he's coming on later.

00:03:13.000 We'll see what he says.

00:03:14.000 The point is, he's been talking to a lot of people in concurrent government intelligence and the Pentagon, and he said, it's on.

00:03:21.000 The government, again, I would add, could stage terror attacks now and blame it on Iran.

00:03:25.000 It is on.

00:03:28.000 They could go with a new war, stage terror attacks, mass arrests, internet kill switches.

00:03:34.000 They are testing the waters right now to completely drop the hammer We're on it.

00:03:38.000 This is a mega red alert, ladies and gentlemen.

00:03:41.000 Again, Mike Adams was going to be here today with, like, four guests on a host of key issues and doing the nightly news tonight.

00:03:47.000 I was going to be back tomorrow live via Skype, spending some time with my family, and Aaron Dykes doing the nightly news.

00:03:54.000 But quite frankly, now I'm a—with the great technology, I can broadcast from anywhere.

00:03:59.000 But this is a maximum, maximum alert.

00:04:01.000 I know we're going to break here, but just briefly taking us to break, Mike Adams, what do you think of this information?

00:04:07.000 Well, Alex, what an extraordinary day in human history, as you mentioned.

00:04:10.000 This issue is exploding.

00:04:12.000 The drapes are off, you know.

00:04:15.000 The cover stories are exploding in their faces right now.

00:04:18.000 It's very clear, Alex, that Fast and Furious is what probably led them to have the motivation to start to drum up these other plots to distract people.

00:04:27.000 It's that sleight of mind or sleight of hand tactic that they always use.

00:04:31.000 And we're going to be covering that more here on the Alex Jones Show with Alex himself, with Paul Joseph Watson, and with Dr. Steve Pachinik when we return.

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00:08:10.000 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us.

00:08:14.000 It is the 13th day of October, 2011.

00:08:19.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:08:23.000 And yes, I'm not in studio.

00:08:24.000 I'm on telephone.

00:08:26.000 I was planning to take a few days off with my children, but broadcast via Skype with a lot of important guests coming up on Friday, Monday, Tuesday.

00:08:37.000 Before returning to the studio and Mike Adams was going to be sitting in today and will be sitting in in studio for InfoWars radio show slash TV InfoWars live as we call it and then coming back tonight with InfoWars nightly news his maiden hosting of that Aaron Dykes is doing the nightly news 7 p.m.

00:08:56.000 Tomorrow we appreciate the great work.

00:08:58.000 He's doing ladies and gentlemen, you know for two days people have asked me what I think about the the Now confirmed, manufactured, fake, Iran-Saudi embassy attack story.

00:09:12.000 And a lot of things were staring me, you know, right in the face, but I wanted to be deliberative on this.

00:09:17.000 So I want to give you the announcement right now.

00:09:21.000 This is the most important and, quite frankly, most ominous radio show I have done.

00:09:29.000 Since July 25, 2011, when I said the government was going to blow up the World Trade Center and blame it on their asset, Osama Bin Laden and launch wars.

00:09:39.000 I could see the preconditioning.

00:09:41.000 I didn't have all the sources I have now.

00:09:44.000 I have two military sources, known to me.

00:09:49.000 Two military sources.

00:09:51.000 Then separately, I have a family military source, who wouldn't give me details, but that's how I went and found out more.

00:09:58.000 I have Dr. Steve Puccini.

00:10:01.000 I have Lt.

00:10:01.000 Col.

00:10:02.000 Anthony Schaeffer of U.S.

00:10:03.000 Army.

00:10:07.000 And more to tell you what I'm telling you now.

00:10:08.000 I'm going to give you the complete skinny right now. 1.00

00:10:12.000 We're going to go to a clip.

00:10:13.000 Again, Mike Adams is waiting in the wings here.

00:10:17.000 It's very simple.

00:10:21.000 The federal government ...was induced in the last three years under Fast and Furious to ship tens of thousands of firearms into Mexico.

00:10:33.000 Cocaine was then shipped back into the United States under ATF, FBI, DEA, Coast Guard, Border Patrol, and several other agencies' authorization.

00:10:43.000 Foreign intelligence agencies, including Israel, but also elements of our own intelligence agencies in the Pentagon, there's different camps, Then began to leak that information so they could then blackmail domestic agencies and domestic leaders of agencies to go along with the police state takeover of the United States.

00:11:05.000 To make sure that that happened, they needed outside war and to tie it into the cartels.

00:11:12.000 That's what was done two days ago, as they knew that within less than 24 hours, Congressman Issa's subpoenas to the admitted liar Attorney General John P. Holdren were going out.

00:11:26.000 Connecting it to Mexican cartels again.

00:11:28.000 Oh, now look, Obama is fighting the Mexican cartels that he's really shipping guns to.

00:11:34.000 Several weeks ago, as you know, a second shipment of Bunker Buster missiles were delivered to Israel.

00:11:40.000 We had Ray McGovern on last week, former top CIA analyst Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr.

00:11:46.000 saying, from his sources, this is the greatest green light ever for an Iran attack.

00:11:51.000 Remember, Fox Fallon four years ago, they had a sitcom, had to resign, refused to attack Iran.

00:11:56.000 With the fake PT boat thing that Cheney wanted to do.

00:11:58.000 Having fake PT boats attack our destroyers.

00:12:02.000 Right now, they have 100% green-lighted a giant bombardment on Iran within the next two weeks.

00:12:12.000 Israel could launch an attack tomorrow, or anytime in the next two weeks.

00:12:17.000 U.S.

00:12:18.000 military logistics forces Fighter-bomber pilots, helicopter pilots, ships, you name it, are all massing in and around the Persian Gulf.

00:12:27.000 I have family who has just been deployed yesterday to Kuwait.

00:12:30.000 20-plus years in the military.

00:12:33.000 Has been put into logistics.

00:12:36.000 Readying helicopters for the Gulf.

00:12:40.000 It is on.

00:12:41.000 The military does not want this.

00:12:44.000 Repeat.

00:12:44.000 The military does not want this.

00:12:48.000 Elements in the Pentagon that are good have loosed Colonel Schaefer, who of course blew the whistle on Abel Danger and other ops, who of course blew the whistle that the Pentagon is upset about the Super Congress and a move towards Obama trying to become a dictator.

00:13:02.000 So the White Hats in the Pentagon Have now gone public, and here's the headline, FBI Insider, Obama Administration, Lightly Manufactured, Dubious Terror Plot.

00:13:13.000 This is from yesterday, it's up at InfoWars.com.

00:13:16.000 This article needs to get out to everybody by Paul Joseph Watson.

00:13:21.000 I cannot stress to you enough that it's not just a distraction from Fast and Furious with people saying Obama needs to step down, Democrats saying don't run again, his approval rating and freefall.

00:13:32.000 That's the intelligence agencies Globally, and the private corporations and others, positioning Obama for destruction if he doesn't do what he's told.

00:13:43.000 That's getting all the agencies, eight of them, caught red-handed.

00:13:47.000 They had to do it system-wide in every major city, getting FBI, ATF, DEA, and others involved shipping the guns, so that even mid-level managers are now facing prison.

00:13:58.000 Now they're being told, go along with martial law.

00:14:02.000 My phone rang, Eight or ten times this morning.

00:14:05.000 Ring, ring, ring.

00:14:06.000 Pchenik never does that.

00:14:08.000 And he basically just put his cards on the table.

00:14:10.000 He goes, you know, I work with a lot of agencies.

00:14:11.000 Yeah, he wrote the handbook on black ops.

00:14:13.000 He goes, the good guys in the Pentagon don't want this, just like Schaefer.

00:14:16.000 He goes, I want you to know you serve your country.

00:14:18.000 You know, a lot of people appreciate it.

00:14:20.000 You need to know the government's not all bad.

00:14:22.000 The Pentagon doesn't want this attack.

00:14:23.000 I mean, he was just right there, not even mincing words.

00:14:26.000 As if we needed to know, Pchenik, you know, is still involved in black ops.

00:14:29.000 Give me a break.

00:14:30.000 The point is, he said they're getting ready to totally drop the hammer.

00:14:34.000 It could lead into martial law, you name it.

00:14:37.000 I cannot stress to you we've got to stop this war.

00:14:41.000 This is the key.

00:14:42.000 If they're able to sell this bogus baloney that Iran tried to assassinate Saudis here, as Schaefer said, it's total bull.

00:14:53.000 He's gone to the FBI high level.

00:14:55.000 They searched the computers.

00:14:56.000 It doesn't exist.

00:14:57.000 It isn't true. 1.00

00:14:58.000 This guy is a drunken idiot who they claimed did it. 1.00

00:15:01.000 Schaefer said it's probably an internal false flag. 1.00

00:15:03.000 This guy's probably just an operative fake name to put the story out.

00:15:07.000 All of this is coming to a head right now.

00:15:09.000 They're getting ready to hit Iran.

00:15:11.000 The globalists will then stage terror attacks all over the West.

00:15:14.000 They will clamp down the media.

00:15:15.000 Obama's approval rating will go to 85%, and they will ram through the austerity, the banker bailouts, all of it.

00:15:21.000 This is it.

00:15:23.000 I told you, a war, false flag, all of it was coming.

00:15:26.000 It's here.

00:15:27.000 They're about it.

00:15:28.000 But the good news is, you see, the power structure doesn't like it, a lot of them.

00:15:31.000 That's why there's all these articles all over, even the New York Times says this Iran thing is bull.

00:15:35.000 That's because a lot of people in the power structure have been brought to the edge of the cliff.

00:15:39.000 And they realize what's about to happen.

00:15:41.000 It's called World War 3. 0.52

00:15:45.000 The Iran situation goes from $10 a gallon gas and wars and terror attacks on the good end to World War 3 on the bad end. 0.78

00:15:53.000 From bad to worse.

00:15:54.000 Let's play this clip of Anthony Schaefer with Judge Andrew Napolitano yesterday on Fox Business.

00:15:59.000 Here it is.

00:16:00.000 Yesterday, the FBI alleged it had foiled an Iranian terror plot.

00:16:05.000 But the main suspect has been in custody since September.

00:16:08.000 So why did the Department of Justice wait until now to announce this threat?

00:16:12.000 Is it mere coincidence as it comes at a time when House Republicans, as you've just heard, subpoenaed the head of the Justice Department, Attorney General Holder himself, for his marred gun-running program, Operation Fast and Furious, which, as you know, let military-grade weaponry get in the hands of Mexican drug gangs.

00:16:31.000 Or is there another explanation for this curious announcement that Mr. Holder made yesterday?

00:16:36.000 Joining us by phone from Virginia is retired Army Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer.

00:16:41.000 Colonel Schaefer, it's always a pleasure.

00:16:43.000 Welcome back to Freedom Watch.

00:16:44.000 Thank you for having me, Judge.

00:16:45.000 Sorry I can't be there.

00:16:47.000 As are we, but we appreciate you picking up the phone and calling us.

00:16:49.000 What is your take on this alleged terror plot involving Iran?

00:16:55.000 Is this the way the Iran intelligence agencies usually operate?

00:17:02.000 Engaging with somebody they thought were involved with Mexican drug gangs to assassinate a Saudi Arabian ambassador in a public restaurant in New York or Washington?

00:17:12.000 Well, it's a long way to get to a much easier target in other places, and no, I don't think so.

00:17:17.000 And obviously, I've interrogated the Iranians. 1.00

00:17:20.000 Two chapters in my book, Operation Dark Heart, are dedicated to this.

00:17:24.000 And that's what makes me think twice about this.

00:17:25.000 The American that they're accusing here, Judge, was true enough, he has a dual passport, Iranian-American.

00:17:32.000 Frankly, my experience has been directly that these people love being here.

00:17:35.000 Once they're here, they love being here.

00:17:36.000 And the idea of this guy, all of a sudden, after years being a successful, by all accounts, a successful used car salesman in Texas, part of the community, I would think it would be very difficult to imagine him all of a sudden deciding that he's going to go against everything he's done for the past, you know, for the past 15 years.

00:17:53.000 To do this.

00:17:55.000 It does not spell correctly at this point in time.

00:17:57.000 Alright, well give me, if you would, your best estimate as to what does spell correctly.

00:18:02.000 For example, is it possible that this Iranian-American is a double agent who wanted to trick the government of the United States of America into taking some action against Iran? 0.52

00:18:12.000 Is it likely that the FBI concocted this whole thing?

00:18:15.000 And because it was a sting, nobody was ever in danger.

00:18:18.000 There was never a real plot.

00:18:19.000 This guy was plotting with FBI agents who he thought were Mexican drug lords.

00:18:24.000 What does Colonel Schaefer think really went down here?

00:18:26.000 I think as part of it, I think the reason it came out now is literally this is red meat to a bunch of lions.

00:18:31.000 You know, I think this is why he threw it out now at this point, not in September.

00:18:34.000 Secondly, yeah, the FBI has had a record lately.

00:18:38.000 I did talk to one of my inside guys today and he is saying that he thinks the same thing.

00:18:42.000 You know why?

00:18:43.000 Because he can't find any real information and he's got a clearance.

00:18:46.000 So that tells him that there's something going on that's extraordinary by the fact that he's an inside, you know, investigator.

00:18:52.000 There's nothing on this within the DOJ beyond what they've talked about publicly, which means to him there's something very wrong with it.

00:19:01.000 Look, the United States used failed and flawed intelligence to attack Iraq in 1991 and in 2003.

00:19:08.000 Is there the danger that we might use something as preposterous as this plot, which was Right, I gotta tell you, I do believe the Iranians do pose a threat, however, I agree with you on this. 1.00

00:19:18.000 basis for invading the country of Iran which is you know a lot of neocons in this country have been itching to get us to do right I gotta tell you I I do believe the Iranians do pose a threat however I agree with you on this I there's no reason to believe at this point that the intel is there to justify a direct military action so much deeper the rest of the clip is up in infancy We're going to be right back with Mike Adams, Paul Watson joining us, Dr. Steve Pachenik and more. 0.99

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00:24:08.000 He's just popping in for a few minutes here.

00:24:10.000 Mike Adams is going to be hosting the whole show.

00:24:12.000 I leave here in about 20 minutes.

00:24:14.000 It's Dr. Steve McKinnick popping in on the next segment.

00:24:16.000 He concurs with my analysis and says he has that from his intelligence agency, Connections.

00:24:21.000 Remember, this is the guy who's literally overthrown government.

00:24:25.000 And he says that, yes, the power structure right now is in a big fight.

00:24:29.000 He said Israel wants to go in and attack right now.

00:24:33.000 And, folks, we don't want World War III, but Mike Adams wants it to pop in later.

00:24:38.000 He's going to have a report out on this.

00:24:39.000 It'll pop in later during the show.

00:24:41.000 But Mike Adams has asked me a question during the break.

00:24:44.000 He said, why is it Saudi ambassadors?

00:24:46.000 Why?

00:24:47.000 Well, notice Mexico's involved, so that kind of muddies the water with the drug runner, gun runner thing.

00:24:53.000 Saudi Arabia was used in the fable of 9-11.

00:24:57.000 Saudi Arabia was used with the Mujahideen against the Russians.

00:25:00.000 Saudi Arabia's big allies were the U.S., England, and Israel.

00:25:04.000 And Saudi Arabia, there's plausible deniability now to say, oh, that was a plot to bomb your embassy.

00:25:09.000 That way, it's not a U.S. 0.99

00:25:10.000 embassy.

00:25:10.000 So it's always the same players.

00:25:13.000 And again, you heard Colonel Schaefer saying, he talked to the high-level Justice Department.

00:25:18.000 The word is FBI.

00:25:19.000 Schaefer's on to Mara.

00:25:20.000 He was getting on a plane when Jaron called him this morning.

00:25:22.000 To be on MSNBC about this.

00:25:27.000 You know, Schaefer's saying high-level, the Justice Department said, it's not in the computers.

00:25:31.000 It's fake.

00:25:32.000 It's not real.

00:25:33.000 It's totally manufactured.

00:25:34.000 It's perfect timing.

00:25:36.000 The day before the subpoenas went out.

00:25:38.000 And Israel's got the bunker busters. 0.92

00:25:40.000 My cousin has just been deployed 20-something years in the Army.

00:25:43.000 I called other Army sources.

00:25:45.000 They said, how do you know this stuff?

00:25:47.000 They said, I'm not talking to you.

00:25:48.000 These are people I've known for a long time.

00:25:50.000 Then, then, Steve Pachenek calls up, saying, it's on, it's on.

00:25:53.000 Ladies and gentlemen, It has never been greenlighted like this, except when Fox Fallon said no and they fired him from CENTCOM.

00:26:01.000 The military knows this is disastrous.

00:26:04.000 Paul Watson, what's your intel on this?

00:26:06.000 I know you've got an article coming out.

00:26:08.000 We are on the verge of World War III.

00:26:10.000 They are launching it.

00:26:11.000 That's from multiple sources, Paul.

00:26:13.000 We've got to get the article out and warn people.

00:26:16.000 The government blew its own cover on Fast and Furious to blackmail eight different federal agencies.

00:26:23.000 Eight federal agencies took the bait in this criminal conspiracy.

00:26:27.000 They're being blackmailed now.

00:26:28.000 Do you understand that, Paul?

00:26:31.000 I mean, this makes the terror plots manufactured by the Bush administration, which of course it was admitted that many of them were manufactured by Tom Ridge, former Homeland Security Director, makes them look sophisticated in comparison to this.

00:26:46.000 I mean it's so transparently fabricated that even the New York Times and the Washington Post today are having to admit that it's dubious to say the least.

00:26:55.000 Because we're being asked to believe that the elite Iranian Al-Quds Force hired a used car salesman from Corpus Christi to then hire assassins to blow up embassies and restaurants in Washington DC in order to try and kill the Saudi ambassador to the United States.

00:27:17.000 Obviously, again, it involves Mexican Los Zetas gang members.

00:27:21.000 They were supposedly part of the plot.

00:27:23.000 He was trying to pay them off to carry out the assassination.

00:27:25.000 And they admittedly were trained at Fort Benning, Georgia and are used to knock out the drug cartels that aren't laundering their money. 0.98

00:27:33.000 This is ridiculous!

00:27:35.000 Well yeah, I mean, court transcripts from the past few months have proven again and again that Los Setas is completely infiltrated in cahoots with the federal government. 0.88

00:27:45.000 They received many of the weapons that were part of the fast and furious cover-up.

00:27:51.000 But I mean, aside from the ludicrous notion that Iran would risk carrying out such a hit inside the United States when it would be far easier to do so anywhere in the Middle East, You know, aside from the fact that this highly trained Al-Quds Iranian elite revolutionary guard force, who are highly trained, would entrust this plot to a used car salesman. 0.66

00:28:14.000 As you just said, Schaefer dropped the bombshell last night on Judge Andrew Napolitano's Fox Business Show.

00:28:21.000 He talked to an FBI investigator with the necessary security clearance who went into the back channels, into the archives, and found no information whatsoever regarding Well, they may be covering it up and have expunged it because they're running it or it doesn't exist.

00:28:43.000 Exactly, and isn't it ironic that the Obama administration has fabricated this hoax about Iran conducting assassinations on U.S.

00:28:52.000 soil, when we know from the Bush-era program, which was continued by Obama, that Central Intelligence Agency works with Jundullah, the Iranian Sunni Al-Qaeda group, to carry out bombings and assassinations in Iran to destabilize their government on a regular basis.

00:29:09.000 So why not, five years ago, put a press release out on it?

00:29:10.000 Paul, I need you to get an article out.

00:29:12.000 With a searing headline, because a headline can't talk about how powerful this is.

00:29:17.000 There's no way to be too sensational.

00:29:19.000 I've got sources across the board, including family who won't talk, but I know where they're going, that it is on.

00:29:28.000 It is on.

00:29:29.000 It is on.

00:29:29.000 Just like I told people they were going to bring down Qaddafi and invade in September, two months before it happened.

00:29:36.000 It is on, folks.

00:29:37.000 It is on.

00:29:39.000 I want to repeat this.

00:29:40.000 They are planning.

00:29:41.000 An Israeli-led bombardment on Iran, and people say, well, how does this indict him?

00:29:44.000 It's just this idea.

00:29:45.000 Well, they tried to attack America, you know, blowing up an embassy.

00:29:48.000 We're on the march.

00:29:50.000 The empire's on the run.

00:29:52.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:29:55.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.

00:30:04.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

00:30:08.000 As we're finishing off this agenda, that we're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.

00:30:12.000 I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

00:30:19.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?

00:30:22.000 They're arsonists!

00:30:22.000 Bernanke?

00:30:23.000 They're asking for more matches!

00:30:24.000 - The whole of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.

00:30:27.000 The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government. - Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.

00:30:36.000 They're asking for more matches.

00:30:38.000 And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to? - Today, it seems like nobody does care.

00:30:43.000 And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.

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00:32:57.000 Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we are live.

00:33:12.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:33:15.000 Dr. Steve Pachenek will join us for a longer interview tomorrow once I'm on a better Skype connection.

00:33:22.000 We have also, riding shotgun today, was going to be hosting the whole show, Mike Adams in studio there at the InfoWars studios.

00:33:33.000 He'll be doing InfoWars Nightly News this evening.

00:33:36.000 We do have Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer Uh, who came on a month ago and said that the Pentagon is upset about the move towards dictatorship of the Super Congress here in America.

00:33:46.000 Schaefer basically speaks for the better elements of the Pentagon.

00:33:50.000 There are different power structures.

00:33:52.000 Uh, he was on Freedom Watch yesterday.

00:33:53.000 FBI insider, Obama administration is manufacturing this dubious terror plot.

00:33:59.000 It doesn't exist.

00:34:00.000 It's made up according to his FBI high-level security clearance source.

00:34:05.000 Dr. Steve Pechenik contacted me this morning and said from his Pentagon sources and others, they don't want to hit Iran, and that this is all basically a setup for the build-up for Israel to hit them.

00:34:15.000 I have family that's been deployed to Kuwait.

00:34:17.000 I won't talk about it, but I know what he works in.

00:34:20.000 It's logistics and helicopter gunships, getting those ready for there in the Persian Gulf.

00:34:27.000 And I've made some calls to other military sources when I learned this two nights ago.

00:34:31.000 And they said, how on earth do you know this?

00:34:33.000 I'm not going to talk about it.

00:34:36.000 The word is, the U.S.

00:34:38.000 military is preparing to back up Israel.

00:34:41.000 When the Iranians close the Strait of Hormuz, a gallon of gas will go from $8 to $10, conservatively.

00:34:49.000 The Iranians will probably respond. 1.00

00:34:51.000 Different intelligence agencies could stage terror attacks, also blame it on Iran.

00:34:57.000 Russia, China could get involved.

00:34:59.000 This will undoubtedly destroy the economy, but it'll be a nice political diversion.

00:35:03.000 What did Gerald Solente and others say?

00:35:05.000 Look for a big war. 0.93

00:35:07.000 What did Lindsey Williams say a year ago on our show? 0.98

00:35:09.000 He said, next is Iran. 0.78

00:35:12.000 And that's from his big oil company, Insiders, and I know who those sources are.

00:35:16.000 One of them's died, now we can talk about it.

00:35:18.000 Ken Fromm, the former head of Atlantic Richfield.

00:35:20.000 The other one's even more high-powered.

00:35:23.000 So, we have all that information.

00:35:28.000 Right there, and Schaefer came on a month ago and said, yes, Pentagon people at a high level, he's basically a mouthpiece for them at a certain level, he's joining us tomorrow, are upset about Obama moving towards a super Congress, a dictatorship.

00:35:48.000 Schaefer's concerned about that.

00:35:49.000 I know Dr. Steve Pchenik, whose bio is too long, will be joining us for longer tomorrow.

00:35:53.000 He's waiting on the wings right now.

00:35:55.000 Uh, you know, the co-author of Tom Clancy's book, you know that, Rand Black Ops, wrote the book for the State Department on Psychological Warfare.

00:36:02.000 Uh, he hardly ever calls me, and this morning he was calling over and over again.

00:36:06.000 I was on the treadmill.

00:36:07.000 I jumped off and ran over there, and he said, just immediately, I said, are you calling about the Iran thing?

00:36:11.000 And he said, yes.

00:36:12.000 You know, I'll let him say it in his own words, but crystallized Dr. Pachinnik Uh, everything you're telling me is what I have from three military sources, what I've got from Schaefer, what I've got from Common Sense.

00:36:24.000 Uh, this is incredible, uh, that a high-level FBI with the highest level security clearance says this plot doesn't exist.

00:36:31.000 We're to believe Los Zetas, we know, trained at Fort Benning, Georgia, and are narcotics enforcers for big central bank, uh, systems. 0.76

00:36:40.000 Are supposedly working with some used car salesman.

00:36:42.000 This is unbelievable.

00:36:44.000 And it's right on time as Obama.

00:36:45.000 People are talking about him stepping down.

00:36:47.000 Don't run again.

00:36:49.000 Fast and furious subpoenas go out.

00:36:51.000 I know you've got incredible sources and you basically put the cards on the table.

00:36:54.000 You said, look, Alex.

00:36:55.000 You know, I talked to a lot of people, you know, a lot of people in intelligence appreciate the service you're doing.

00:37:01.000 And I'm not getting into ego here.

00:37:03.000 The point is I got from what you were saying that you've got a lot of sources like Schaefer does and that there are good guys in the government, the Pentagon, that are upset about what's happening.

00:37:11.000 So let's put the cards on the table.

00:37:14.000 The intel I've got is a strike on Iran by Israel within two weeks.

00:37:18.000 The U.S.

00:37:19.000 then responding when Iran totally shuts down the oil supply.

00:37:24.000 Well, the issue, and I can't thank you enough, and I know our country, the real military and the real patriots in the intelligence community really love you and really are grateful I came on because, once again, as a citizen, I'm not a hero, I'm a citizen, saying once again that this whole issue that came out of Mexico, this entire nonsensical story, which even Mueller shamefully said was a Hollywood script, which it is, and it's a very bad script,

00:37:53.000 Where an informer, a car salesman, talks about the potential of killing a Saudi ambassador to the United States and it's somehow this Iranian is related to people in Iran is absolutely absurd.

00:38:05.000 It's disinformation.

00:38:07.000 DEA has had a terrible history of corruption, incompetence, as you've seen in Fast and Furious.

00:38:14.000 And more importantly, this is an indictment, once again, of Eric Holder, who lied to Congress.

00:38:19.000 He's lied, now lied, to the American public about what he has supposedly learned in an investigation.

00:38:26.000 And more importantly, Mueller, who I'm absolutely ashamed of, the FBI director, who's a war hero from Vietnam, has won major awards and was a combat hero, has been involved in 9-11, now is involved in this nonsensical story to create a pretext now is involved in this nonsensical story to create a pretext for an attack by Israel on Now, why do I say that?

00:38:49.000 Because two things happened. 0.62

00:38:50.000 But when I heard this nonsensical intelligence report by DEA, ATF, CIA, and other elements, all of whom have been compromised and have had intelligence problems in the past, i.e., as we witnessed in the Osama bin Laden stupidity story, where no one in the world, absolutely as we witnessed in the Osama bin Laden stupidity story, where no one in the world, absolutely no one in 0.94

00:39:12.000 And now Biden, the most incompetent vice president we have, with two aneurysms, the history of plagiarism, and Hillary Clinton, a woman who is pathologically a liar, incompetent, is reaffirming that Iran, who has repeatedly said, we don't need to attack the United who has repeatedly said, we don't need to attack the United States on their home I know the Iranians. 0.94

00:39:33.000 I was involved with Khomeini. 0.94

00:39:35.000 I was involved with Rouhani.

00:39:37.000 I don't love them, but I have respect for them.

00:39:39.000 And they're very clear on their intention.

00:39:42.000 Furthermore, the Iranians have proxy fights in Afghanistan with our soldiers and in Iraq.

00:39:49.000 And at the same time, you can ask our generals that they have worked with the Iranians to keep down the Shiite populations, both in Iraq and Afghanistan. 0.97

00:39:58.000 So both Biden is lying and is incompetent.

00:40:01.000 And by the way, his in-law is Tom Donilon. 0.83

00:40:04.000 Who really should not be there.

00:40:06.000 Obama, once again, is lying.

00:40:08.000 Once again, should be considered for impeachment.

00:40:11.000 We have serious war crimes here.

00:40:13.000 Now, why do I say this?

00:40:14.000 Because two weeks ago, and the reporters didn't mention this, cluster bombs were sent to Israel.

00:40:20.000 Now, there is no reason for Israel to receive cluster bombs.

00:40:23.000 They cannot... Cluster bombs are used to break up the tarmacs on other Air Force bases, but they're used to instigate a war. 0.98

00:40:31.000 Now, cluster bombs do not necessarily being used in Syria, because the Syrians have helped the Israelis with Hamas and the PLO.

00:40:38.000 The Egyptians have now helped the Israelis release a soldier for 1,000 Palestinians.

00:40:44.000 So, Israel is not going to be using a cluster bomb, but Israel needs to divert attention away from its domestic problems, where a million people have been unemployed, from the fact that it has an incompetent, dysfunctional civilian government in Netanyahu, And we'll create a war to divert that attention because the state of Palestine will be and should be recognized by the UN.

00:41:08.000 And this is exactly what should happen around the world.

00:41:11.000 In order to divert that attention, it has convinced Joseph Biden and Hillary Clinton, two major supporters of the Jewish community here, so that it can be mobilized in order to support an Obama election, which does not look very likely.

00:41:26.000 And ironically, Obama is creating another incident at the same way when Bush Jr. had very low approval in the ratings, when the unemployment was very high.

00:41:39.000 And unlike George Bush Jr., whom I thought would have been the worst president, Obama is turning out to be by far the worst incompetent president we have ever had, who really should be impeached for the lies he committed, for the travesties of justice.

00:41:54.000 And now for the incompetency, you have Biden, you have Hillary Clinton, you have Mueller, you have Panetta, all civilians.

00:42:03.000 But that does not explain why our military, which has had to retreat from two wars and has been used as cannon fodder by civilians who were totally incompetent and sent into war to die for our country.

00:42:18.000 We have the most brilliant We have effective leaders in our military that I've never seen in 30 years.

00:42:24.000 They have been quiet.

00:42:26.000 They have followed orders, but they are sick and tired of listening to incompetent civilians sending out brave men and women into battle and dying.

00:42:35.000 We have special forces that work 24-7, time all over the world to knock out extremists, and yet they get no support.

00:42:44.000 Our veterans get no support back here.

00:42:46.000 And now, in order to promote his, Obama's election, he has gone to war again and created this nonsense.

00:42:58.000 It is so absurd, this nonsense, that Iran is about to attack the United States. 0.99

00:43:04.000 Iran does not have to attack the United States.

00:43:06.000 As a matter of fact, when I was involved with Khomeini, not one of our hostages was ever injured.

00:43:13.000 By homing me.

00:43:14.000 It was, in fact, the terrorist group, the MEK, which is being supported by Freeh, a former head of the FBI, and what's called the Mushahadeen that killed some of my CIA operatives, my State Department operatives, and they, in turn, are being supported by some of the prominent, both liberals and right-wingers who are receding money.

00:43:37.000 If you look at the list of the MEK, it's an issue we should talk about.

00:43:41.000 They want them off the terrorist list.

00:43:43.000 The real terrorists were the Musa Hadid who killed all of our civilians and operatives in Tehran.

00:43:51.000 Dr. Pachinik, this is Mike Adams here.

00:43:54.000 You're not able to hear Alex because he's on his cell phone, but Alex, what's your take on all this?

00:44:02.000 I was just going to throw this in, sir.

00:44:06.000 I have military sources.

00:44:08.000 I know you have a hundred times what I have.

00:44:10.000 I have common sense.

00:44:11.000 I have Schaefer, Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer, coming out and being greenlighted, who still is in the Pentagon and is also part of a big think tank, to say this is bull.

00:44:19.000 The New York Times has come out today and said this terror plot is made up.

00:44:23.000 That shows the major elements of the power structure.

00:44:27.000 are saying don't go into Iran, just like Fox Fallon said no to Cheney when he tried to stage the attack.

00:44:33.000 So these are my two questions for you, and tomorrow we'll get more into this.

00:44:36.000 We appreciate you coming on on short notice.

00:44:38.000 My point was, what are your current sources, and we know you've got a lot of them, are they concurring with what I've been told, that Israel right now is test-ballooning and intends to hit Iran in the next two weeks with bunker busters and cluster bombs to stop their that Israel right now is test-ballooning and intends to hit Iran in the next They've just put into place more medium-range anti-ballistic missile systems 0.55

00:45:07.000 And the word we've got is, the attack on Iran has now been green-lighted, they've put up this balloon, oh look, Iran's gonna attack us, and that it is on. 0.54

00:45:16.000 So A, what is your intel on that?

00:45:19.000 A. B, what do you expect the Iranians to do?

00:45:23.000 What are the different things that can happen if Iran is struck?

00:45:27.000 Because the people like Ray McGovern and others I've talked to who work, you know, with the CIA as analysts, they say it runs from bad to worst.

00:45:34.000 Okay, sir, those are my questions, those two questions.

00:45:36.000 The first answer is I will not quote any of my sources in my extensive experience as a member of the Association of Foreign Intelligence Officers, National Military Intelligence Association, and my extensive experience in dealing with Iran, with terrorists, And incompetent civilians, you are absolutely right. 0.98

00:45:54.000 We are creating a false flag situation where Israel will go forth to attack Iran. 0.70

00:46:01.000 What will happen in turn is Iran will not touch the United States. 0.97

00:46:05.000 It never has and it never will.

00:46:07.000 Iran is very effective at putting up pressure, number one, on Hezbollah, on Israel, and two, on Hamas, and affect Israel's northern border. 0.54

00:46:19.000 It's eastern border and it's southern border.

00:46:21.000 In effect, what Israel is doing is approaching Armageddon, where it's continuing its self-destructive behavior, both militarily and civilian. 0.89

00:46:31.000 I asked the Israeli ex-commanders of the IDF and the Mossad to come forth and to stop Netanyahu and stop the Americans who were involved in this attack because Israel will be seriously destroyed.

00:46:47.000 The state of Palestine will exist.

00:46:50.000 Egypt will be there.

00:46:51.000 Syria will maintain its low-intensity conflict, but Iran will exact a huge amount of problems for Israel, and Israel knows that.

00:47:02.000 And Israel cannot handle that.

00:47:04.000 The IDF cannot handle that.

00:47:05.000 handle three borders which will be exposed.

00:47:08.000 It cannot handle both Hezbollah on the north, Hamas on the south, and the Jordanian border, which is extremely, extremely vulnerable.

00:47:17.000 And at the same time, the Middle East will erupt in violence because Bahrain is the area where our military and the surrogates have effectively fighting Iran.

00:47:28.000 But Iran will not be involved in domestic terrorism.

00:47:32.000 They don't need it.

00:47:33.000 And Inishad is a very smart man.

00:47:35.000 I always respect my enemies.

00:47:37.000 And one of the things that's a problem is I do not respect our civilians.

00:47:41.000 As I have said repeatedly on this show, the American public has to be awakened to the fact we have an incompetent, dangerous president.

00:47:50.000 I'm not saying Democrat or Republican.

00:47:52.000 We had it truthfully with Bush Jr.

00:47:56.000 But this one really is out of control.

00:47:58.000 You have Biden, who is totally incompetent, a history of plagiarism.

00:48:03.000 A history ineffectual with his family as being the National Security Council.

00:48:08.000 You have a CIA that's totally out of control and Panetta, who's never had experience in national security and intelligence.

00:48:16.000 How do we stop the war? 0.75

00:48:18.000 How do we stop this from happening?

00:48:20.000 The former head of Assad came out a few weeks ago and said attacking Iran would be a terrible idea, but Netanyahu wants it politically.

00:48:29.000 So how do we stop this?

00:48:31.000 The Israeli people have to go into the streets, there's a million of them, and around the world the civilians must go into the streets to demonstrate that there can be no more wars and that they have to stop the Israelis from attack and from the United States supplying Israel with weapons that are totally irrelevant to the national security of the United States.

00:48:52.000 I will not quote our generals, but I feel that some of our generals have correctly stated years ago, Israel is a strategic liability. 1.00

00:49:01.000 Let me repeat it again.

00:49:02.000 This is not just an emotional Republican or Democratic issue.

00:49:07.000 There is no need for us to have Israel on our southern or eastern flank. 0.96

00:49:12.000 Israel has had its own national security.

00:49:14.000 Israel has funded against all its sanctions.

00:49:18.000 That's why Hillary is lying like a banshee through the Ofer family, loyal to Iran, while at the same time condemning the nuclear program. 1.00

00:49:29.000 Israel has repeatedly manipulated the AIPAC and the Jewish community in the United States and the world to say that it's being persecuted, when in fact it has not been persecuted.

00:49:40.000 Israel has been out of control.

00:49:43.000 Last year they had 25 operatives trying to kill one operative in Dubai. 0.94

00:49:49.000 Israel is in fact dysfunctional. 0.99

00:49:51.000 The people of Israel have to mobilize into the streets.

00:49:56.000 We've got to go to break here shortly.

00:49:58.000 to stop Netanyahu.

00:49:59.000 He is out of control.

00:50:01.000 He was not the brightest man we ever saw under Baker.

00:50:04.000 I remember he was kicked out of the office by Baker.

00:50:07.000 Lieberman is totally incompetent, but I ask the Israeli former commanders, they know who they are.

00:50:13.000 Dr. Pachenik, we've got to go to break here shortly.

00:50:18.000 Alice, is there anything you want to say before we go to break?

00:50:20.000 I'm going to bow out and let you come back with Dr. Pachenik for one more story.

00:50:23.000 segment and you've got guests coming on.

00:50:24.000 Dr. Pachinik will be back with us tomorrow.

00:50:26.000 This issue could not be more important, ladies and gentlemen.

00:50:29.000 We appreciate Dr. Pachinik joining us.

00:50:30.000 The Green Line for War is on.

00:50:32.000 We've got to turn it off.

00:50:33.000 It's InfoWars Radio with Steve Pachinik and we've got Mike Adams riding shotgun.

00:50:39.000 I'm going to sign off for now.

00:50:40.000 Paul Watson is coming up later.

00:50:41.000 Spread the word.

00:50:42.000 World War III is about to start.

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00:50:44.000 We'll be right back after this break.

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00:53:58.000 All right, welcome back, folks, to the Alex Jones Show.

00:54:09.000 An extraordinary day I'm filling in for Alex, who has been joining us by phone for the last 45 minutes or so.

00:54:16.000 We're also joined by Dr. Steve Pichenik, who has been giving us an analysis and a breakdown of this just truly extraordinary historical news groundbreaking.

00:54:26.000 You need to listen in to what is being said here today, because we are talking about a false flag pretext for war in the Middle East, having now been As we're saying here, fabricated by the Obama administration.

00:54:41.000 And continuing with Dr. Pichinik, I have a couple of questions for you.

00:54:45.000 Sure, Mike.

00:54:46.000 Number one is the incompetence of this apparent false flag operation.

00:54:51.000 Doesn't that strike you as a pattern from the Obama administration?

00:54:55.000 If you remember the incompetence of how they tried to forge the birth certificate, it was obviously a fake.

00:55:00.000 Well, this is obviously a fake terror plot.

00:55:03.000 Does that strike you as something characteristic?

00:55:08.000 I don't want to get into the birth certificate, but what's really the most fascinating part about Obama is the fact that he doesn't want to talk about his mother having been a CIA operative, his grandmother being a CIA operative, and his grandfather.

00:55:18.000 His mother was a very impressive woman who worked at the Hawaiian Asian Pacific Center, which was a CIA front.

00:55:27.000 And I honor her.

00:55:29.000 And his grandmother was involved in banking for funding in these days.

00:55:33.000 His mother went into Indonesia speaking Russian and a white woman in Arabic.

00:55:39.000 So what's missing is this connection between him and the CIA.

00:55:43.000 So you know that the CIA is very much a part of this and has been under 9-11 and has been out of control.

00:55:49.000 And it's one of the things that Eisenhower has always said.

00:55:52.000 This is, we need a certain kind of genius to control the CIA.

00:55:55.000 And unfortunately, we have not had it.

00:55:58.000 I'm hoping that General Petraeus can put them in line, but you have the DEA, you have the ATF, and these are not functional institutions.

00:56:07.000 With all due respect to the FBI, they are brilliant domestically, but Mueller has really discredited himself twice, on the 9-11 and today's, And this is a war hero in Vietnam.

00:56:19.000 And if I were he, I would resign out of just dignity.

00:56:23.000 Eric Holder should be indicted.

00:56:25.000 He's totally dysfunctional.

00:56:27.000 He has lied. 0.83

00:56:28.000 He has committed perjury in front of Congress.

00:56:31.000 He has lied to the American public.

00:56:33.000 And now what you have is dysfunctional, the most dysfunctional story of all is the fact that Osama Bin Laden, there is no one in the world that believes that Osama Bin Laden was killed and then was dumped into the waters. 0.91

00:56:48.000 I mean, it was so absurd, it became ridiculous.

00:56:51.000 Even Mueller came forth on this story about the assassination plot saying it's like a Hollywood movie, as if he was trying to co-opt himself on the truth of the matters. 0.79

00:57:00.000 Mueller, I'm sorry, but you failed once again and is beyond a Hollywood movie.

00:57:05.000 No producer in their right mind would have bought this because it's not true.

00:57:08.000 It has no consistency.

00:57:10.000 It's dysfunctional.

00:57:11.000 And once again, you have operatives who have no idea of how to create a false flag.

00:57:16.000 Well how much of this do you think stems from the heat that Attorney General Holder must now be feeling as the subpoenas are about to be handed to him and it looks like he's about to be handed his hat and shown the door because of his involvement in Fast and Furious.

00:57:32.000 Is that a key motivation you think behind this?

00:57:35.000 One of them, the fact that he is going to be handed a door.

00:57:38.000 He should be actually prosecuted for lying in front of Congress, for perjury, for distortion disinformation, for inciting a war.

00:57:47.000 I mean, Eric Holder should be held accountable for a lot of malfeasance.

00:57:52.000 I'm not a lawyer, but I certainly know the miscreant behavior he has had.

00:57:57.000 It's not only his heat, but you have a president who has not performed, who has not been able to create jobs.

00:58:03.000 Who has polarized the country and has basically has very low ratings.

00:58:07.000 The only way presidents historically in the United States have created increased ratings, and this one is pitiful.

00:58:15.000 Alright, Dr. Pucinich, we are just about out of time here.

00:58:18.000 I apologize for cutting you off.

00:58:20.000 We're out of time for this segment.

00:58:22.000 I want to thank you for joining us.

00:58:24.000 And I know you're going to be back on tomorrow, I believe, for additional analysis.

00:58:27.000 So thank you for joining us.

00:58:29.000 Also, here on the Alex Jones Show, we're going to continue to break this down and have additional analysis.

00:58:37.000 Stay with us.

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01:00:21.000 Welcome back, friends, to the Alex Jones Show.

01:00:23.000 I'm the fill-in host for today, Mike Adams.

01:00:26.000 Alex just joined us for much of the last hour, and we have been breaking down just an explosive story, probably the biggest breaking news in the country, maybe in the world, happening today.

01:00:38.000 And you're getting the inside scoop on it right here on the Alex Jones Show.

01:00:41.000 Thanks to Alex himself.

01:00:42.000 Thanks to Paul Joseph Watson, who has, who joined us in the last hour and is working on another story that will be posted at the top of this hour.

01:00:51.000 In other words, just about an hour from now, we intend to have Paul Watson back on here to give us further analysis of the situation.

01:00:59.000 And also Dr. Steve Pachenik joined us, as you just heard, if you were with us in the last segment.

01:01:04.000 We have a false flag pretext for war.

01:01:09.000 War in the Middle East.

01:01:10.000 This is now being uncovered.

01:01:13.000 This false flag operation having been formulated apparently by the Obama administration.

01:01:20.000 We don't know exactly which operatives inside it, but as Dr. Pachinik alluded to, We suspect Attorney General Holder may have a hand in this as he has with Operation Fast and Furious, the illegal operation to ship guns into Mexico and put them into the hands of drug dealers there.

01:01:37.000 The FBI is suspected of being involved, although of course there are good agents in the FBI, there are rogue agents in the FBI, there may be some warring factions within the FBI itself, just as within the CIA itself.

01:01:50.000 Who are trying to vie for top position right now and do the right thing for America rather than getting us dragged into another war in the Middle East.

01:01:59.000 We're going to continue to cover this story right here for the next two hours here on the Alex Jones Show.

01:02:05.000 I do have other guests lined up who are going to be joining us who are scheduled for today.

01:02:09.000 So we are going to be talking to them, but we will be coming back to this story.

01:02:13.000 And if there's any breaking news that happens in the next two hours, we will go right to it immediately, interrupting any guests who may be joining us.

01:02:21.000 So if you are listening to this right now, don't turn your dial.

01:02:26.000 You're going to get the best breaking news right here today on this extraordinary situation, which involved a false flag plot to have a used car salesman in Texas Apparently tried to assassinate a Saudi ambassador in the United States as a pretext for war.

01:02:46.000 Again, Israel, according to Alex here, as he explained earlier, Israel may be just weeks away from launching a war, launching an attack on Iran.

01:02:57.000 And this attempted assassination attempt, which is being described by the mainstream media as a real thing, but we believe is a false flag attack.

01:03:06.000 Maybe the pretext for justification of all of that.

01:03:10.000 Now there's a lot more, let's say, aftermath to this that you need to know about.

01:03:16.000 And we're going to be analyzing that and giving you some information about what you can expect to happen if an attack is launched on Iran.

01:03:23.000 What's going to happen to oil prices?

01:03:26.000 What's going to happen to gold prices?

01:03:28.000 What's going to happen in the presidential elections in the United States if Obama is positioned up as a war hero in much the same way that former President George W. Bush was positioned in the aftermath of 9-11?

01:03:41.000 There are some very serious implications to all of this.

01:03:44.000 Our world, as of today, because of this apparent false flag setup, is headed for war, a major global war, and we need to take action to prevent it.

01:03:55.000 We've got to stop us from devolving into a world that can only resort to killing people in order for governments to gain power and control their own populations.

01:04:06.000 We've got to resist this.

01:04:07.000 We've got to get the word out that we know about this.

01:04:10.000 We know what's going on.

01:04:11.000 And we've got to take action so that people can protest this, even in Israel.

01:04:16.000 As Dr. Pachinik said in the last segment, the Israeli people need to take to the streets and demand peace.

01:04:22.000 Demand that they do not start another war which can only end in suffering.

01:04:27.000 Which can only end in death for people on both sides.

01:04:30.000 No matter who you side with in this war, dropping bombs and causing death is not a positive outcome for our world.

01:04:37.000 So stay with us right here on the Alex Jones Show.

01:04:39.000 We'll be breaking this down with a lot more details when we return right after this break.

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01:08:06.000 All right, friends, welcome back to The Alex Jones Show. welcome back to The Alex Jones Show.

01:08:25.000 I'm the fill-in host, Mike Adams, the editor of Natural News.

01:08:29.000 And today, as you've heard, we have been exploring just an extraordinary breaking news story on the potential false flag attack.

01:08:37.000 Well, I would say the obvious false flag pretext.

01:08:41.000 For an attack in the Middle East.

01:08:44.000 So we're going to continue to cover this story here for the next two hours.

01:08:48.000 We do have other guests lined up.

01:08:49.000 In fact, we're going to be talking to Leslie Botha from SaneVax, who's going to give us some information about Governor Jerry Brown's decision in California that allows 12-year-old children to give consent to being injected with a vaccine that could kill them.

01:09:09.000 That's another bit of insanity happening in our world today and we're going to cover that.

01:09:12.000 We also have coming up Mark Castell from the Cornucopia Institute at the top of the next hour.

01:09:19.000 He's going to talk to us about GMOs having been detected in so-called natural cereal products, breakfast cereals.

01:09:27.000 So we have a lot of news lined up for you.

01:09:29.000 Also Paul Joseph Watson will likely be joining us in a little under an hour to give us some more breaking news on the Iranian false flag assassination attempt on the Saudi ambassador to the United States.

01:09:44.000 And I want to thank Paul Watson for his story.

01:09:46.000 If you haven't read it yet, get yourself on theinfowars.com and read that article because this is probably the biggest news that you have heard certainly all week, maybe the biggest story of the year.

01:10:00.000 And it's breaking right here on the Alex Jones Show.

01:10:04.000 I have a lot of questions about that situation, too, so I'd like to get Watson on the phone and ask him a few things, too, Jaron, if you can set that up towards the end of this hour.

01:10:14.000 Now, getting to who we have joining us right now is Leslie Botha from the SaneVax, Inc.

01:10:23.000 organization, which has done extraordinary work on exposing, for example, the contamination of HPV vaccines.

01:10:32.000 With the rDNA, the recombinant DNA of various strains of HPV itself.

01:10:39.000 And that should not be in the DNA.

01:10:41.000 And you learned about that here on the Alex Jones Show when Dr. Andrew Wakefield joined us and also when Leslie, when you saw her articles posted on both Natural News and InfoWars.com as well.

01:10:52.000 She joins us now to talk about the recent decision in California, I should say, the signing of the law by Governor Jerry Brown in California that gives children the right, the right to consent to something that could kill them.

01:11:06.000 Leslie, are you with us on the phone?

01:11:09.000 I am so glad to be talking about this issue, absolutely.

01:11:13.000 Thank you so much for having me on the show.

01:11:16.000 Governor Jerry Brown's decision certainly shocked all of us who were part of the efforts to send as much information as possible to our advocates in California so that he would know the truth about the dangers of this vaccine.

01:11:31.000 So that he signed this bill into law was against anybody's thinking, rational thinking, and really a surprise.

01:11:43.000 And it's still reverberating through the media, obviously.

01:11:46.000 Let's break it down though, what exactly this law allows, because as I understand it, and correct me if I'm wrong, a child could come home from school having a vaccine shot, and could say, hey mommy, I got a vaccine shot today, and here's my permission note, which I signed myself, and the school said I could.

01:12:05.000 Or a child could come home from school, like happened up to Linda Moran.

01:12:11.000 A child came home from school, never told her mother she had the vaccine, went in to take a bath, and never came out of the bathtub.

01:12:18.000 Because she died.

01:12:21.000 Absolutely.

01:12:22.000 I had another young woman named Courtney on my own radio show about a month ago talking about this.

01:12:29.000 At 15, Courtney and her mother went to a doctor's office in California.

01:12:34.000 Her gynecologist, female gynecologist, who said Gardasil, they said no. 0.74

01:12:39.000 The gynecologist said, can I speak to your daughter alone, please?

01:12:43.000 Pulled the daughter aside into her office and said, you know, I can give you this vaccine without your mother knowing it. 1.00

01:12:50.000 Incredible.

01:12:51.000 And this was before Jerry Brown signed the law.

01:12:54.000 This was two years ago.

01:12:57.000 And so when the girl said no, the gynecologist visibly upset marched out to the mother and said, I want you to know that if your daughter gets raped, she's going to get cervical cancer and die because you did not let her get this vaccine. 0.96

01:13:12.000 Unbelievable! 0.98

01:13:13.000 The lie is farther than the truth!

01:13:15.000 Absolutely!

01:13:17.000 But let's really look at this issue.

01:13:19.000 I know I was reading your commentaries on 8499 this morning.

01:13:25.000 And you've done a great job.

01:13:26.000 Total California cave into the criminal vaccine industry.

01:13:31.000 But why would Governor Jerry Brown, why would he sign this?

01:13:35.000 I mean, who convinced him, or who got to him?

01:13:39.000 Why would, I mean, I don't think in his heart that he wants to be an evil person, and yet this act can very easily be interpreted as a crime against humanity because of the number of children that are going to be maimed and killed by this.

01:13:53.000 Why would he do this?

01:13:55.000 Or is it really an act?

01:13:58.000 Well, it is an act against humanity, yes.

01:14:00.000 However, if he did not sign this bill, Gardasil would not be in the news again this week, I wouldn't be on the Alex Jones Show, I wouldn't be on Robert Scott Bell's show, and I wouldn't be on a radio station out in New York tonight talking about this issue.

01:14:15.000 Let's look at it this way.

01:14:19.000 You know, let's tie it in with what Ms. 1.00

01:14:21.000 Michelle Bachman did, alright?

01:14:23.000 A month ago.

01:14:24.000 Right, with Perry.

01:14:25.000 At the Republican debate.

01:14:27.000 She shocked everybody when she brought up Gardasil and said, I wouldn't get this vaccine for my kids.

01:14:33.000 For her daughters.

01:14:34.000 And calling it a potentially dangerous vaccine.

01:14:38.000 What if Governor Jerry Brown, who I happen to be a fan of, For the first time he was governor back in the 70s and thought he did a great job and stood up for the people.

01:14:49.000 What if Governor Jerry Brown was under so much pressure by his state legislature, by the pharmaceutical companies who we know lobby the heck out of everybody and signed this bill to bring attention to what is going on?

01:15:05.000 What do you mean?

01:15:06.000 He's not going to run for president.

01:15:07.000 You even said that in your comments.

01:15:09.000 Right, right.

01:15:10.000 This is the closing chapter of his political career, almost certainly.

01:15:15.000 And what a very long political career as well. 0.75

01:15:18.000 But are you suggesting that he did this on purpose to show how ridiculous it is so that there would be some public discussion?

01:15:26.000 This public outcry, this backlash before a farmer goes in and buys up every state in the country trying to do the same thing.

01:15:34.000 Yeah, I am suggesting that.

01:15:36.000 And I think we need to get to Governor Jerry Brown's office and find out why.

01:15:41.000 Well, if this is the reason, I'm sorry to interrupt, but if this is the reason he did it and if he comes out and goes public with that, then I owe him an apology because I had some very critical things to say about him for signing this.

01:15:51.000 What's your take?

01:15:53.000 Well, I mean, I could be wrong.

01:15:56.000 I've been wrong once already today and I'll probably be wrong by the end of the day.

01:16:00.000 But I'm just saying, nothing has... You know, we're all so quick to jump and to condemn, alright?

01:16:06.000 And there is a lot to condemn here if indeed he succumbed to lobbying pressure and Merck pressure and did this.

01:16:15.000 But if he wanted to show how crazy this is, wouldn't it have been better to just call a press release and have all the press around and announce that I'm not going to sign this bill because Big Pharma keeps pressuring us and these vaccines are not safe for children?

01:16:29.000 Wouldn't that have been more effective than passing it and waiting for the backlash?

01:16:33.000 Well, it would have been yesterday's news tomorrow.

01:16:37.000 Everybody loves negative media.

01:16:41.000 And maybe you're right and maybe I am wrong, but we don't know.

01:16:45.000 Yeah, we don't know.

01:16:46.000 And that is the issue here.

01:16:47.000 But this is a big issue because it does set a dangerous precedent, all right?

01:16:55.000 So whatever the politics behind it, it sets a very dangerous precedent of parents losing control over their children or health care, certain aspects of health care.

01:17:05.000 My understanding is it's STDs, it's vaccines, and STD vaccines, which there are more and more coming down the pike, and also for mental health diagnosis and SSRIs. 0.62

01:17:18.000 Holy smokes.

01:17:19.000 Well, right, and now with this precedent, as you just mentioned, the state overrides the parents, not just their rights, but even their knowledge of it.

01:17:30.000 The state can now round up children in school and run these propaganda campaigns, and it's very easy to twist the mind of a 12-year-old child in the sense of social engineering in the context of a classroom.

01:17:44.000 They can inject them with who knows what.

01:17:46.000 They could put him on preventive chemotherapy for preventing future breast cancer.

01:17:51.000 I mean, your little girl could come home from school with chemotherapy. 0.90

01:17:55.000 Absolutely.

01:17:56.000 Absolutely.

01:17:57.000 But what better way to light a fire under parents than to set a bill in motion that takes away their rights?

01:18:05.000 Because we are a very complacent society.

01:18:08.000 Leslie, by the way, what's your website address for those who want to follow your coverage of this?

01:18:13.000 Well there's SaneVax.org and I have my own website on HolyHormones.com which is all about women's health and you know really there is a big picture here that is why we are in such a mess and that is because we do not have adequate information for young girls about health care, And that is the crime.

01:18:35.000 They don't understand their bodies.

01:18:37.000 They're being put on birth control pills at alarming rates.

01:18:41.000 They're being given Gardasil at alarming rates.

01:18:45.000 And it's killing them.

01:18:46.000 I mean, the whole social political issue surrounding women's health care is all about money and profit.

01:18:53.000 Of course it is, of course.

01:18:54.000 And this is also all about parents versus the state, because I think you would agree with me that even if Gardasil were proven 100% safe, which it hasn't been proven, but even if it were, we would still want parents to have the rights to choose what gets injected into their children, correct?

01:19:11.000 And that is absolutely correct.

01:19:13.000 At all times.

01:19:15.000 At all times, parents need to be aware and they need to be accountable for their child's health.

01:19:20.000 We need to be accountable for our health.

01:19:23.000 That's what natural news is all about.

01:19:24.000 And that's what you provide us information for all the time.

01:19:28.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:19:29.000 That's what I try and provide information to women on health care. 1.00

01:19:31.000 Leslie, we're about to go to a break.

01:19:33.000 I'd like to ask you to stay with us and join us again on the other side of this break.

01:19:37.000 If you're listening, this is the Alex Jones Show.

01:19:39.000 I'm the fill-in host, Mike Adams.

01:19:41.000 Stay with us.

01:19:41.000 We'll be right back after this short break with more from Leslie and Sane Vax.

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01:24:17.000 I am the fill-in host today, Mike Adams, the editor of Natural News, and we are joined in this segment, continuing with Leslie Botha from Sanevax, Inc., talking about Jerry Brown, Governor Jerry Brown's signature in California of Bill AB-499, which allows children to give consent.

01:24:36.000 Children as young as 12 years old, if you can believe that, to give consent to being injected with potentially deadly vaccines, even without their parents knowing about it.

01:24:45.000 And at the same time, by the way, Governor Brown signed another bill that says, oh, you can't go to a tanning salon if you're under 18 without a note from your parents, or actually a parental escort almost.

01:24:58.000 You can't even go to the zoo.

01:24:59.000 You can't go to a field trip museum without a note from your parents.

01:25:04.000 But now, if you're 12 years old, if you're 13, you can say yes to a vaccine that we know has killed children, a vaccine that maims some children, a vaccine with neurological side effects.

01:25:15.000 It's absolutely insane.

01:25:18.000 And here to give us a little more information on that is Leslie from SaneVax, Inc.

01:25:22.000 And that website is SaneVax.org.

01:25:25.000 Is that correct, Leslie?

01:25:26.000 That is correct.

01:25:27.000 SANEVAX stands for Safe, Affordable, Necessary and Effective Vaccinations.

01:25:32.000 Perfect.

01:25:33.000 Now, just go ahead.

01:25:35.000 The whole thing does sound ludicrous.

01:25:37.000 I mean, Governor Brown usually protects family rights, parental rights.

01:25:43.000 He's been known to do that over the years.

01:25:45.000 He stands up for the people.

01:25:46.000 He stands up for the family.

01:25:47.000 And that's right.

01:25:49.000 This is anybody else but Governor Brown. 0.99

01:25:52.000 I'd be going Bastard. 0.95

01:25:56.000 With Governor Brown, it just doesn't make sense.

01:25:58.000 And then, as I said before, in light of Michelle Bachmann and what she did and the risk that she took in losing points and losing credibility for coming out and speaking about Gardasil during the Republican debate.

01:26:14.000 And you sort of look at those back and forth and you go, maybe we're having more of an impact Then we realize the collective impact, InfoWars, SaneVax, VaccineTruth, all of the other vaccine awareness sites, Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, Sherry TenZeni.

01:26:35.000 I mean, this is the strongest this movement has been in 30 years.

01:26:38.000 Well, it's extraordinary.

01:26:40.000 It is extraordinary.

01:26:41.000 The press release that I wrote about Rick Perry and Gardasil was actually posted on Mitt Romney's website.

01:26:48.000 Fantastic.

01:26:49.000 Yeah, Stainbacks has been written up and been visited by the CDC, FDA, Senate, governors.

01:26:58.000 You know, we're watching all these people hitting on our website.

01:27:02.000 So is it really that absurd?

01:27:04.000 You know, we are having this impact.

01:27:07.000 Your work and the work of Alex here at his show and InfoWars, Paul Watson, what we're doing at Natural News, many like Sherry Tenpenny that you mentioned.

01:27:17.000 We are all having an impact and we are shaping the conversations out there.

01:27:21.000 Kudos to Michelle Bachman for raising I mean, I may not agree with her on all her other issues, but on this issue, she nailed Rick Perry to the wall with it.

01:27:31.000 Absolutely, she did.

01:27:32.000 And she knew she was going to be at great risk for doing so.

01:27:35.000 And she dropped immediately to the bottom of the barrel. 0.93

01:27:39.000 And she spoke as a mother.

01:27:39.000 But she did it.

01:27:41.000 And she was honest about it.

01:27:44.000 That's why I have to question, really, and I can't condemn Jerry Brown until we know it.

01:27:49.000 That would be a great interview for you or somebody out there.

01:27:52.000 Let's get to Jerry Brown's office.

01:27:54.000 Well, I already condemned Jerry Brown.

01:27:56.000 Maybe it's too late.

01:27:58.000 But look, hey, I'll retract it if, I mean, I'll apologize to the guy if it turns out that this was some kind of weird behind the scenes plot to actually expose the dangers of vaccines.

01:28:09.000 I just, that seems like a stretch to me.

01:28:12.000 But you may be right.

01:28:14.000 We'll see what happens.

01:28:14.000 We're in the media.

01:28:16.000 Gardasil is in the media.

01:28:18.000 Merck's marketing department has to be dying.

01:28:20.000 There is no more damage control for them.

01:28:23.000 This thing is a train wreck.

01:28:25.000 It's a train running out of control.

01:28:27.000 And it's going to gain more momentum as we go.

01:28:29.000 And we couldn't have done this without Michelle Bachmann, and we couldn't have done it without Governor Jerry Brown signing this bill.

01:28:37.000 Well, what an extraordinary roll call of players in the stage of world events just on the vaccine front, not to even mention what's going on today with Iran and Saudi Arabia and Israel and all that.

01:28:51.000 We're just about out of time here, Leslie.

01:28:53.000 I want to thank you for joining us.

01:28:55.000 I'm sorry it's a short segment for you today.

01:28:56.000 We did plan to have you on for longer.

01:28:58.000 But we've got all this other breaking news happening at the same time.

01:29:01.000 So I do want to thank you for joining us and for your comments.

01:29:03.000 And encourage people to go to your website, sanevax.org, for more information.

01:29:07.000 And you will also find SaneVax News continued coverage on infowars.com.

01:29:14.000 When we come back from this break, I'm just looking at the clock over here.

01:29:17.000 When we come back from this break, we will have Paul Joseph Watson joining us.

01:29:22.000 And I've got a list of questions for him.

01:29:24.000 But Leslie, thank you.

01:29:25.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:29:26.000 Thank you, Mike, very much.

01:29:27.000 All right.

01:29:28.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off there.

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01:32:55.000 Okay, folks, we are back here on The Alex Jones Show. we are back here on The Alex Jones Show.

01:33:14.000 I'm the fill-in host today, Mike Adams.

01:33:15.000 We're going to be joined shortly by Paul Joseph Watson, who is working feverishly on a breaking story to be posted on InfoWars.com, probably, maybe within half an hour, I guess he'll tell us exactly when.

01:33:29.000 Before we bring Paul Watson in, I just want to cover a couple of things here on this issue.

01:33:34.000 This breaking news today, this is the biggest news story happening probably Probably on the planet today, because we're talking about a false flag pretext for war in the Middle East.

01:33:45.000 The Obama administration now practically being caught just fudging a false flag attempted assassination plot against a Saudi ambassador in the United States involving an Iranian used car salesman from Texas.

01:34:04.000 Who has been just probably another patsy set up by perhaps the FBI, perhaps the CIA, certain rogue elements within those agencies.

01:34:12.000 I'm going to ask Paul Watson more about that.

01:34:15.000 But let's go to the mainstream media very quickly and see how they are beating the drums for war.

01:34:21.000 Beating the war drums!

01:34:22.000 The Washington Post.

01:34:24.000 Obama blames Iran government for role in assassination plot against Saudi diplomat.

01:34:29.000 Wow, how convenient is that?

01:34:31.000 Problem, reaction, solution.

01:34:34.000 From the Obama administration.

01:34:35.000 A former Netanyahu advisor says, time for the U.S.

01:34:40.000 to strike Iran. 0.91

01:34:45.000 Very convenient pretext there.

01:34:47.000 Daily News says, Iran's terror plot marks the end of engagement.

01:34:51.000 It's time for Washington to get tough with Tehran. 1.00

01:34:55.000 Oh really?

01:34:56.000 Time to get tough because of this?

01:34:57.000 Because of this just juvenile assassination plot?

01:35:01.000 Really?

01:35:03.000 What else do we have here?

01:35:05.000 Treasury official.

01:35:06.000 Iran sanctions are working and we should keep them going. 1.00

01:35:09.000 This is from CNN Politics.

01:35:12.000 Baltimore Sun reports attacking Iran would invite disaster.

01:35:16.000 Here's a little different point of view on this.

01:35:17.000 Yeah, of course it would invite disaster.

01:35:20.000 Disaster for Israel and much more. 0.98

01:35:22.000 Here's something from CBS News.

01:35:25.000 Very interesting.

01:35:26.000 It leads off with, quote, the alleged plot to kill the Saudi ambassador to the United States was comically amateurish.

01:35:34.000 Yeah, no kidding.

01:35:36.000 But the U.S.

01:35:37.000 government believes not only that it was approved at high levels in Tehran, but also that it was not the only plot from CBS News correspondent Bill Plante.

01:35:48.000 We're going to bring in Paul Joseph Watson, who has already reported on this and is going to be posting another story.

01:35:55.000 Paul Watson, are you with us now?

01:35:57.000 Are you with us via Skype?

01:36:00.000 Hello, Mike.

01:36:01.000 Hello, Paul.

01:36:02.000 Great to hear from you.

01:36:05.000 Basically, what's happening is that Defence Secretary Leon Panetta visited Tel Aviv back on October 3rd.

01:36:13.000 And it appears as if the Israelis basically told him, look, we've got a two-month window for this strike on Iran.

01:36:20.000 We've got to get it done before winter.

01:36:22.000 Because if we wait, then it's going to make it a whole lot more difficult.

01:36:27.000 And the debate apparently has been on How the United States would give the green light for this Israeli assault on Iran. 0.98

01:36:36.000 So lo and behold, less than two weeks later, we have this ridiculous fantasy hoax of a terror plot, which it now turns out, the so-called mastermind behind it, this used car salesman, turns out to be a drunk, pothead, hooker-frequenting, quote, joke. 0.98

01:36:56.000 That's how he's being described. 0.96

01:36:59.000 But now this fake plot is being aggressively exploited from everyone from, you know, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, to John McCain.

01:37:09.000 And it's interesting because back in February last year, we wrote that it would be an assassination attempt that would be used as the pretext to go into Iran.

01:37:20.000 Now we speculated that it might be Obama as the target.

01:37:24.000 It actually turns out that Obama is now being pressured by the neocons.

01:37:29.000 He's being blackmailed into this attack because they're saying this is the only way to get tough, to save your presidency, is to green light this attack on Iran.

01:37:40.000 So, you know, ten days after Panetta visits Tel Aviv, the Israelis basically tell him, look, this is what's going to happen.

01:37:47.000 You better get on board with it.

01:37:49.000 And then ten days later we have this ridiculous fake terror plot, which as Anthony Schaeffer, Lieutenant Colonel, told Andrew Napolitano last night on Fox Business, is a complete myth.

01:38:01.000 There's no evidence to detail it within the FBI channels.

01:38:05.000 Schaeffer had an FBI insider, an FBI investigator, look to see if he could find any details regarding this alleged plot, and he found absolutely nothing.

01:38:16.000 It's being completely manufactured out of whole cloth and now it's being used as the pretext to green light this planned, pre-planned Israeli assault on Iran.

01:38:26.000 But Paul, importantly on this, and an outstanding analysis you've offered us already, and I know more coming from you today with new stories to be posted on Infowars.com, but the question is Is the mainstream media going to continue to buy it?

01:38:42.000 And will the people of America buy into this, even though it is now an obvious hoax?

01:38:47.000 I mean, we've got some media outlets are questioning it.

01:38:51.000 Others are buying into it.

01:38:52.000 Where do you see this playing out across the mainstream media and then in the minds of the American people?

01:38:57.000 Were you able to hear me there, Paul?

01:39:04.000 Yeah.

01:39:06.000 Yeah, it's just cutting out a bit, but yeah, I got the gist of what you were saying.

01:39:10.000 Yeah, the Washington Post, the New York Times and others have come out with articles admitting that most foreign observers and terror experts doubt the credence of this plot, but then in the rest of the article they'll go on to detail the frivolous, you know, storyboard, the myth behind it.

01:39:29.000 What they're saying now is that there's a chain of plots that are going to be blamed on Iran.

01:39:34.000 So this is only going to escalate.

01:39:36.000 And now Time Magazine has come out and basically said, look, the response to this is not going to be sanctions.

01:39:42.000 It's not going to be isolation of Iran.

01:39:44.000 It's a pretext for war. 0.86

01:39:46.000 So they're going beyond saying that it's just going to be another tactic to isolate Iran and saying that That, you know, Obama's going to have to get tough or he's going to be accused of being, quote, soft on Iran.

01:39:58.000 So that's what the likes of Time Magazine are saying.

01:40:00.000 So they're going to play this game where Obama gets the right cover from the neocons.

01:40:06.000 Michelle Bachmann, Romney, they've all come out, all the so-called Tea Party people and said that, you know, it proves the case that we need to go and attack Iran.

01:40:15.000 So Obama's got right cover from his supposed political enemies who have all Paul Watson, does the term CS1 mean anything to you?

01:40:32.000 CS1 as referring to a paid informant with the Department of Justice.

01:40:37.000 I'm just getting some breaking news handed to me here.

01:40:39.000 Is that something you've covered so far?

01:40:46.000 Yeah, I believe that's the Department of Justice go-between that this joke of a mastermind went and visited and he gave him the orders to create the ledger which they could then exploit to put out this myth in the media that it was a big dangerous assassination plot involving Mexican drug cartels.

01:41:09.000 Of course, as we've documented, those very same Mexican Los Setas gang members From court transcripts that have come out in recent months have been proven to be working directly in cahoots with the federal government itself.

01:41:23.000 And in fact, many of the weapons from Fast and Furious, the guns went directly to Los Zetas gang members, so... 0.80

01:41:31.000 I mean, from the DEA agent to the Lost Setters, they were all working together and then they find this idiot joke of a guy who's into, you know, smoking pot, getting drunk and frequenting brothels, to be the, quote, mastermind of this plot.

01:41:48.000 It's completely inconsistent with how Al-Quds, the Iranian Revolutionary Special Tactics Unit works, as every terror expert has said. 0.99

01:41:57.000 They're not going to hire some idiot drunk in America to carry out an assassination plot, and they wouldn't even carry it out in America. 0.98

01:42:05.000 This ambassador is going to be in the Middle East most of the time. 1.00

01:42:08.000 Why not just carry it out there?

01:42:10.000 Why would you do it in Washington, D.C.? 0.94

01:42:12.000 It's ridiculous, and every expert has said so.

01:42:17.000 Very good questions from you, Paul Watson.

01:42:19.000 I want to thank you for joining us.

01:42:21.000 I know you've got to go to keep working on the story that you're about to post on InfoWars.com.

01:42:26.000 Can you give us an idea, when can people expect that story to be live?

01:42:33.000 Yeah, it's a terror hoax could foreshadow Israeli attack on Iran.

01:42:38.000 And it'll be up within half an hour on InfoWars.com.

01:42:42.000 All right, all right, there you have it then.

01:42:43.000 Terror hoax story to be posted on InfoWars.com by Paul Joseph Watson coming up hopefully within half an hour.

01:42:49.000 Now how's that for pressure for Paul Watson?

01:42:52.000 I bet he's scrambling there.

01:42:53.000 Thank you for joining us Paul for taking time out of your busy journalism schedule there also to get us that story.

01:42:59.000 Now some of the breaking news we have on this and by the way this is all teleprompter free radio just like InfoWars Nightly News is teleprompter free.

01:43:07.000 This is all breaking news right now.

01:43:09.000 This is huge breaking news.

01:43:11.000 And so bear with us as we bring in different stories and different guests and different pieces of evidence here.

01:43:18.000 The latest piece that I'm seeing here is a story entitled, Paid DOJ Agent Provocateur at the Center of, quote, Iranian terrorist plot.

01:43:28.000 This was written by Kyle Rogers from the Charleston Political Buzz Examiner.

01:43:33.000 And in that story, he says, he asks the question, was the assassination plot an actual plot or just entrapment?

01:43:39.000 Well, that's because the FBI, as we know, goes out there and recruits patsies and We've seen this pattern emerging just over and over again, where they recruit these people who are largely incompetent, just like what we are seeing here.

01:43:54.000 And then the FBI actually gives them the gear, gives them, for example, the remote-controlled airplane that was supposed to be flown into the Pentagon.

01:44:03.000 It gives them the explosives, gives them the firearms and the grenades in that case.

01:44:10.000 And there are many other cases, other attempted, quote, attempted bombings, attempted terrorist events, where it's on the record now, it's been exposed that the FBI itself, or perhaps, let's say, a rogue element within the FBI, because I don't want to say that all FBI agents are bad.

01:44:27.000 That's not true.

01:44:28.000 There are many very good men and women in the FBI who are doing their jobs.

01:44:32.000 And I want to give them credit, but there are also rogue elements within every agency that appear to be putting together these false flag attacks for the sole purpose of reminding us all in an Orwellian type of style that we are always at war and we should always be afraid.

01:44:51.000 Now in this case, they're amping it up to a whole new level.

01:44:56.000 With this, what looks like a false flag assassination attempt, they're saying not just be afraid, Not just be terrified that there are terrorists running around everywhere, but even more so that now we have the moral justification to go to war, or to allow Israel to bomb Iran, to allow a key US ally to engage in what's going to be a murderous

01:45:25.000 attack, high fatality rates, no doubt, attack on Iran, which now looks imminent.

01:45:32.000 As Alex said when he joined us in the last hour, he believes this may happen within two weeks.

01:45:37.000 You know, certainly give or take some timetable on that.

01:45:41.000 We don't have a crystal ball around here, but we do see the patterns and we do know history.

01:45:47.000 And we do know when there's a problem reaction solution being presented to us so that we will react and then allow these administrations to commit what are essentially illegal acts and then justify it with these actions that they have fabricated from the get-go.

01:46:04.000 So, I've got some questions about this and some analysis that I want to share with you.

01:46:10.000 We are, what, five minutes away from a break.

01:46:14.000 Good, we've got enough time to do this.

01:46:15.000 And by the way, we are going to be joined at the top of the next hour by Mark Castell from the Cornucopia Institute, who's going to be giving us information about how GMOs have been found, detected, verified in laboratories In so-called natural food products, natural cereals.

01:46:35.000 You know, most people think natural foods are better than everything else.

01:46:40.000 They think that they have no pesticides and no GMOs, and it turns out that is not exactly the case.

01:46:45.000 Now, just coming in here on my desk, we have a tip from a listener, Aaron in Canada.

01:46:50.000 Thanks for sending this in.

01:46:51.000 This is an article.

01:46:53.000 Canada should arrest George W. Bush when he visits next week, says Amnesty.

01:46:58.000 Oh, wow, okay.

01:47:00.000 Bush admitted In his memoirs, that he authorized the use of torture against terror suspects.

01:47:10.000 All of this was authorized, George Bush wrote, and condoned and put in place through his own repeated decisions.

01:47:17.000 I'm sorry, that's not what George Bush wrote, that is being quoted from the story.

01:47:20.000 All of this was authorized and condoned and put in place through his own repeated decisions, he being former President Bush.

01:47:29.000 So, Amnesty is saying he should be arrested when he shows up in Canada.

01:47:34.000 Well, that would be interesting.

01:47:35.000 Wasn't Rumsfeld, didn't someone try to arrest Rumsfeld when he was traveling through Europe a couple of years ago?

01:47:42.000 These sort of unindicted war criminals running around who many of the awakened people are trying to get arrested.

01:47:51.000 That's an interesting bit of news.

01:47:53.000 Yeah, if you have any more news coming in on either Fast and Furious or this false flag assassination attempt, just jump on in here, bring it to me.

01:48:03.000 We're going to jump in at any moment that's necessary to cover this story.

01:48:07.000 Let me ask you the question.

01:48:09.000 Listeners, what do you suppose happens if Israel bombs Iran?

01:48:17.000 What is the aftermath of that?

01:48:18.000 Now, if you've been listening to the Alex Jones Show for any length of time, you probably have a very solid grasp of what we're talking about that would happen in the aftermath of that.

01:48:31.000 And I'd love to have, man, I'd love to be talking to Bob Chapman right now about this.

01:48:35.000 I would love to have Gerald Cilente on right now.

01:48:37.000 But let me just take a whack at this.

01:48:39.000 You can expect oil prices to just skyrocket globally.

01:48:44.000 Massive spike in oil prices.

01:48:47.000 Maybe gasoline at $5 to $10 a gallon in the aftermath of a strike on Iran.

01:48:54.000 What about gold prices?

01:48:56.000 Well, of course gold prices would spike.

01:48:58.000 How high?

01:49:00.000 We don't know, but maybe this would hit that $2,500 an ounce target that was mentioned previously, I believe, by Bank of America.

01:49:08.000 What about people who would see this as an increased Tensioning of world events and they would be more interested in preparedness.

01:49:18.000 I think you would see a run on ammunition in the US.

01:49:22.000 I think you'd see a run on preparedness supplies and preparedness food and gear.

01:49:26.000 I think many of these companies that offer these products would be backordered after a strike on Iran.

01:49:35.000 You would also have, of course, radioactive fallout if a nuclear facility, a nuclear processing facility, was targeted in the strike, which is almost a certainty.

01:49:47.000 What else would Israel be going after other than the political leadership of Iran and also the nuclear processing facilities?

01:49:54.000 Now, if that happens, and I really wish we had a nuclear expert on here who could give us even more details about this, and perhaps we will, let's see what we can do about that.

01:50:04.000 in the next hour, but you're going to have essentially a dirty bomb unleashed, a massive radioactive tidal wave of contamination sweeping across Iran. 0.82

01:50:15.000 Now, which way do the winds blow across Iran?

01:50:19.000 And which neighbors are going to be affected by this?

01:50:22.000 What is going to be the cost in human lives and suffering and future sickness from the potential radioactive fallout if there is an Israeli strike on Iran?

01:50:33.000 These are questions that you've got to consider now that the pretext for this is right in our faces.

01:50:40.000 Now stay with us here on the Alex Jones Show.

01:50:43.000 We're going to continue to talk about this and we'll have more guests on on the other side of this break.

01:50:48.000 I'm Mike Adams filling in today for Alex.

01:50:50.000 Stay with us.

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01:54:27.000 Let's see, that's going to be maybe another 20 minutes.

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01:54:32.000 Nothing like a little pressure for those guys.

01:54:34.000 By the way, I want to thank the crew here today.

01:54:36.000 You know, every time I'm here on the Alex Jones Show, it's just such a great honor to be part of this and to be part of the whole listenership and to do something that matters for a change.

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01:54:55.000 And all the guests and all the researchers and all the website artists and writers and everybody who does this.

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01:55:10.000 We all, you know, it's weird in a sense that we all stand for peace.

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01:55:26.000 We don't want governments to bomb each other, and especially not to do it under the pretext of all these false operations.

01:55:33.000 We want people to have freedom.

01:55:37.000 Hey Mike, I'm just driving down the highway.

01:55:40.000 You know, I had planned to take off for two days on a working vacation.

01:55:43.000 Work is too cold.

01:55:44.000 any kind of pain hanging over their heads.

01:55:48.000 I'm just getting this, is Alex gonna be joining us by phone?

01:55:51.000 Okay, Alex, are you with us? - Hey Mike, I'm just driving down the highway.

01:55:58.000 You know, I had planned to take off a few days on a working vacation before it gets too cold.

01:56:03.000 I'm gonna go out camping and stuff with the kids here.

01:56:06.000 And did an hour from my house this morning.

01:56:08.000 I'm now on the road, uh, calling in.

01:56:11.000 How's my audio coming in, Roger?

01:56:12.000 It's coming in loud and clear.

01:56:14.000 Here, go ahead.

01:56:15.000 Okay, uh, look.

01:56:17.000 I've just been surfing on my little bubble of Slam Tracker iPhone while I'm listening to you on the other iPhone app.

01:56:23.000 Plugged into the stereo here, uh, in the, uh, InfoWars mobile.

01:56:29.000 And you mentioned the Charleston paper and others.

01:56:31.000 The New York Times has come out and said that this is baloney.

01:56:35.000 And this isn't where they go out and set up the Iranian National, you know, Secret Police.

01:56:40.000 This is where they just go out and usually recruit somebody to be part of the drill.

01:56:44.000 And then the person takes part in the drill and they set them up.

01:56:48.000 Or they're not even involved.

01:56:51.000 More than a hundred cases of this have come out over and over again to create this perception of a threat instead of carrying out a big elaborate false flag like 9-11.

01:57:07.000 But there's no doubt with Obama plunging, no doubt with the global bankers not getting their agenda through, But the global crisis that would come out of an Iran strike, even though it would be bad for the economy, people primitively tend to still rally around their governments in Europe and the U.S.

01:57:24.000 And so I've been saying, and just as you wrote two weeks ago, for your exact headline at naturalnews.com, it was something like, conditions now ripe for false flags.

01:57:32.000 What was your exact headline?

01:57:34.000 Yeah, that was it.

01:57:35.000 Yeah, conditions are ripe.

01:57:36.000 Because, like you said, remember the George Bush moment after 9-11 where he took the bullhorn and looked really presidential?

01:57:42.000 This is what Obama is being set up for here, to look presidential in this war crisis.

01:57:49.000 It's obvious.

01:57:50.000 Exactly.

01:57:51.000 You're exactly right.

01:57:52.000 Hey, hold on one second.

01:57:53.000 Hey, guys?

01:57:53.000 Hey, kids?

01:57:54.000 Please keep it down.

01:57:55.000 I'm on the radio.

01:57:55.000 Yeah, bear with us, folks.

01:57:57.000 Live radio here.

01:57:58.000 Breaking news happening here.

01:57:59.000 So, not scripted.

01:58:01.000 Alex, go ahead, sir.

01:58:06.000 Uh, I can probably put my shot on hearing his analysis, though.

01:58:09.000 It's probably better than the general public's understanding of this.

01:58:12.000 I've heard all the neocons on the radio going, this dude... Uh, break it in 30 seconds, Alex.

01:58:16.000 Time to glass parking lot him.

01:58:19.000 I'll go to break with him and come back and break down how serious this is.

01:58:23.000 This is green-lighted right now, folks.

01:58:25.000 We gotta get the word out on this false flag hoax or it's over.

01:58:27.000 They're going to World War III and that means their domestic agenda... Alright, stay with us, folks.

01:58:31.000 We're going to break.

01:58:32.000 We'll be right back more with Alex here on the Alex Jones Show.

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02:00:20.000 Extraordinary breaking news today on what is turning out to be pretext for potential war in the Middle East and Alex is joining us by phone right now to continue analyzing this situation.

02:00:32.000 There's a lot that's going to come out of this and you can expect continued coverage here on the Alex Jones Show and the InfoWars.com website.

02:00:40.000 Alex, are you still with us on the phone?

02:00:42.000 Yes sir, I'm going to get out of here at the end of this segment.

02:00:46.000 And, uh, let you get the calls of your other guests that are coming up.

02:00:48.000 Then, of course, we've got Pepe Escobar, who was inside Libya.

02:00:51.000 He concurs this is a false flag.

02:00:53.000 Uh, in his words, inside job.

02:00:55.000 He's going to be joining you on InfoWorks Nightly News this evening, along with a guest that you wanted to have on, uh, on other issues.

02:01:02.000 Listen, right now, it is green-lighted.

02:01:08.000 Israel is going ahead with the Antiochus Bonetus test 10 days ago.

02:01:11.000 Uh, as Ray McGovern said last week when he was on with us.

02:01:16.000 And then we gotta get Ray McGovern on tomorrow for like 10-15 minutes if he can do it.

02:01:21.000 So all of that is happening.

02:01:25.000 Obama is being politically destroyed.

02:01:27.000 Israel wants to launch this attack. 0.57

02:01:28.000 Netanyahu needs to politically... All of this is going on.

02:01:32.000 Israel's lost wars in Lebanon and other areas.

02:01:35.000 So the hawks over there are hot for this war.

02:01:38.000 It'll massively increase oil prices.

02:01:40.000 The oil companies like that.

02:01:42.000 It will hurdle the world.

02:01:45.000 into a massive global crisis.

02:01:49.000 So this is serious, serious, serious.

02:01:54.000 Right now it is green lighted.

02:01:57.000 This is not a potential green light.

02:02:01.000 I've talked to two military sources and another through family who's being shipped over there right now and logistics.

02:02:09.000 It is on US Supporting Israel in a strike and all of this to just have a headline there to divert the public that well after all Iran wanted to blow up an embassy in D.C.

02:02:22.000 So old Obama's pretty fast but he still hit them.

02:02:26.000 And then the establishment elements of it are using Fast and Furious And you notice the neocons, or the Republican leadership, is demanding this new war, along with Israel. 0.66

02:02:36.000 They're using that to get Obama in line for it.

02:02:40.000 ISSA is.

02:02:41.000 When Los Dedos and Sinaloa drug cartels shipping drugs into the United States and shipping guns down there, that goes back five and a half years.

02:02:52.000 That's in the El Paso Times and other papers.

02:02:55.000 So ISSA is using this right now He's using us right now as a way to basically put pressure on Obama to go ahead and go with this war.

02:03:07.000 That's how blackmailing government works. 0.97

02:03:09.000 That's how statecraft works.

02:03:10.000 This is on, Mike.

02:03:12.000 This is going to happen.

02:03:14.000 Well, it seems like every war always has this fairy tale pretext.

02:03:18.000 Remember Weapons of Mass Destruction?

02:03:21.000 That was sold to us as the justification for it.

02:03:24.000 Now we're going to have this embassy bombing attempt.

02:03:28.000 Even if it later comes out that it was completely fabricated, the media will conveniently forget it.

02:03:34.000 And they'll say, well, the war was justified anyway, all by itself, later on.

02:03:39.000 Right?

02:03:39.000 I mean, they have this strange memory of reality.

02:03:44.000 Exactly.

02:03:45.000 We've seen fraud after fraud.

02:03:46.000 Hoax after hoax.

02:03:48.000 The little nobody puppet teleprompter reader is being threatened right now.

02:03:53.000 Hillary launched the Fast and Furious. 1.00

02:03:55.000 They had it planned to set him up all along. 1.00

02:03:58.000 Now these absolutely wicked, duplicitous scumbags work. 1.00

02:04:03.000 Then they can get our guns, destroy our republic. 1.00

02:04:05.000 Remember during this war, they can put their Homeland Security on the streets, their TSA on the streets.

02:04:12.000 Yet another reason.

02:04:14.000 Yeah, exactly right.

02:04:14.000 Department of Homeland Security must be all over this, too.

02:04:17.000 Well, this is the thing.

02:04:18.000 There are so many people and organizations that benefit from this.

02:04:22.000 How do we stop this, Alex?

02:04:24.000 We've got to call into every talk radio show and point out it's staged because of the vast, serious cover-up that war with Greenland.

02:04:31.000 We've got to call Congress.

02:04:33.000 We've got to support Ron Paul.

02:04:34.000 This is also being used now to demonize Ron Paul.

02:04:36.000 Look, he didn't want war with Iran.

02:04:39.000 He's with them.

02:04:40.000 We've got to get the word out on this, Mike.

02:04:43.000 Okay.

02:04:44.000 Alright, thank you Alex for joining us.

02:04:46.000 We're going to break folks.

02:04:47.000 Stay with us.

02:04:48.000 We will continue with more on the other side of this break.

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02:08:19.000 All right, welcome back, friends.

02:08:32.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

02:08:33.000 I'm the fill-in host today, Mike Adams, the editor of NaturalNews.com.

02:08:37.000 We've been talking about this huge breaking news.

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02:08:50.000 to keep you going.

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02:08:55.000 This is very disturbing news that we've been covering about the potential Pretext for war in the Middle East.

02:09:04.000 Now, we're going to be joined, we have a scheduled guest here, going to be joining us here shortly, Mark Castell from the Cornucopia Institute to talk about GMOs and natural cereal products.

02:09:16.000 I'll give you a brief intro on that here in a second.

02:09:18.000 But I just want you to know we will continue to return to the big breaking news of today.

02:09:24.000 So we'll give you the latest updates on that close to the bottom of the hour and also at the top of this hour as well.

02:09:32.000 And we'll see if we can get the headlines from Paul Joseph Watson's story, which should be posted shortly.

02:09:38.000 We spoke to him in the last hour.

02:09:40.000 Now, Cornucopia Institute has put out just an extraordinary new piece of research.

02:09:46.000 This actually came out, what was it, Tuesday.

02:09:49.000 In fact, we were the first to carry the news, the natural news, and Cornucopia has tested all of these cereal products that claim to be natural.

02:09:59.000 Now, here's why this is important out there, because all of you listening, you know you want to avoid GMOs.

02:10:06.000 Most people do.

02:10:08.000 Surveys now say that something like 80-90% of people who are aware of the issue, they want to avoid genetically engineered ingredients in their food.

02:10:17.000 So these food companies, the big mega-corporations, they continue to use genetically engineered corn and soy and cottonseed oil and canola oil in their products.

02:10:31.000 But they label them as natural, because they know that most moms, most people shopping in the grocery stores, when they look on the store shelf and they see a box of cereal, and it says, oh, it's all natural, wholesome, from the earth, and it has a wonderful, beautiful name, and it has pictures of grain on it, and pictures of the earth on it.

02:10:50.000 They think, the consumers think, and they've been misled, they think that that means no GMOs.

02:10:57.000 They think that that means no pesticides.

02:11:00.000 They think it means organic.

02:11:01.000 But it doesn't!

02:11:03.000 And this is the scam that is being exposed by the Cornucopia Institute.

02:11:09.000 So joining us today from that Institute is Mark Castell, the executive director there who was instrumental.

02:11:16.000 In putting this story together and breaking this news to the world.

02:11:20.000 Mark, you're on the Alex Jones Show.

02:11:22.000 Thanks for joining us.

02:11:24.000 Hi Mike.

02:11:26.000 It's great to have you on.

02:11:27.000 Greetings from not-so-sunny Wisconsin today.

02:11:31.000 Yeah, a lot going on in Wisconsin.

02:11:33.000 I bet you've been hammered by a media request since putting this story out.

02:11:38.000 What has been the reaction so far?

02:11:41.000 Well, it's been big.

02:11:43.000 Obviously, you have a lot of followers on your natural news website.

02:11:48.000 It's now been just, I don't know if viral is the right term, but it's been carried by quite a few of the prominent websites, the trade media.

02:11:58.000 We're starting to get calls now from cereal and granola makers who aren't entirely happy.

02:12:05.000 And you really hit the nail on the head.

02:12:07.000 People think, and most of us have a A working definition for the term natural in the world, whether it's on a package of food, cereal or granola in this case.

02:12:20.000 Let's also define what's not natural.

02:12:25.000 I think if Monsanto splices genes together and puts a naturally occurring pesticide in corn, something that doesn't appear in the natural genome, Wasn't created by God, was created by scientists to make a profit.

02:12:43.000 Most of us wouldn't call that quote natural.

02:12:46.000 So it's outrageous that marketers can decide to put that word natural on a label and then include genetically modified organisms.

02:12:56.000 Or we could even talk about how that grain is raised besides the GMOs.

02:13:02.000 And the USDA has done extensive study of cereal grains and found high residues of many toxic and carcinogenic chemicals in the commodities themselves.

02:13:16.000 Those aren't natural.

02:13:18.000 And to make matters worse, I'd say this is almost rubbing salt in the wounds.

02:13:24.000 After you get done harvesting those genetically engineered crops that were sprayed maybe with glyphosate, Roundup is the Monsanto's trade name for the most popular herbicide in the world.

02:13:37.000 After you get done harvesting those crops, you put them in a storage bin and then you spray them with what's commonly called a crop protectant.

02:13:46.000 That's a fancy word for pesticide.

02:13:48.000 They're spraying right on the oats or right on the wheat To make sure that rodents and bugs don't eat them in storage, and then they're in your kid's breakfast cereal.

02:13:59.000 I just don't consider it natural, and that's why we've published this report to try to differentiate what the difference is between certified organic food, where there are some standards, and natural, where the standards are developed by the marketing executives, and they mean whatever they want them to say.

02:14:19.000 All right, so very quickly then, the most important takeaway point from this for those listening is that the word natural on grocery products is essentially meaningless and your organization through lab testing with a reputable lab that you already It told me the name of them, so I know that they're reputable.

02:14:41.000 I don't know if you've released that publicly, but you found pesticide residues in so-called, or I'm sorry, you found genetically engineered ingredients in so-called natural products, and you also know that the USDA says that these pesticides are typically used in those conventional grains that are found in natural products as well.

02:15:00.000 Is that correct?

02:15:01.000 That's correct, Mike.

02:15:02.000 To make matters worse, Not only did we find high levels of GMOs, we're talking about 28 to 100 percent, so this was not a little drift from the next farm or a grain bin that wasn't quite cleaned out well.

02:15:16.000 The crops themselves were genetically engineered.

02:15:19.000 So not only did we find that in, quote, natural cereal, some of those cereals were actually touting themselves as being GMO-free.

02:15:28.000 So it was really borderline or outright consumer fraud here.

02:15:34.000 Well, this has sent shockwaves through the natural health industry.

02:15:39.000 I mean, I've talked to many influential people in the industry who are very concerned.

02:15:45.000 Obviously, everybody wants the term organic to mean something.

02:15:49.000 They want a non-GMO certification to really mean non-GMOs.

02:15:54.000 And there's concern right now.

02:15:55.000 A lot of consumers are confused.

02:15:57.000 I mean, they're upset.

02:15:58.000 We've had people who are upset.

02:16:00.000 They were buying a brand and they thought it was GMO free and it turns out it's not.

02:16:05.000 Was there a serial brand that came out of this squeaky clean that can be trusted, Mark?

02:16:11.000 Uh, yes.

02:16:12.000 In fact, what I want to encourage your listeners to do and your readers on your website is to go to the Cornucopia Institute website and that's c-o-r-n-u-c-o-p-i-a dot o-r-g Go to the Cornucopia Institute website and visit the serial report.

02:16:31.000 It's called Serial Crimes.

02:16:33.000 And on that, we have a scorecard where we list all the name brands, organic and natural, and what their policies are.

02:16:41.000 And we rate them.

02:16:42.000 And I'm happy to tell you that there are a bunch of 100% organic brands that you can really trust.

02:16:48.000 And here's the kicker.

02:16:50.000 Some of these, quote, natural brands, They cost more expensive than the organic ones.

02:16:55.000 Oh yeah, I saw that.

02:16:56.000 Yeah, pretty outrageous.

02:16:57.000 You know, the other interesting thing that the listeners might not be aware of is that many of these, quote, independent, kind of green, crunchy companies, we are talking about granola here, are actually hiding behind a facade.

02:17:15.000 One of the biggest companies is Kashi.

02:17:18.000 They're owned by Kellogg's.

02:17:19.000 You'll never see the name Kellogg's on a package or their website.

02:17:23.000 Another brand is Bare Naked Granola.

02:17:25.000 It's one of the largest selling granola brands.

02:17:28.000 Probably the most expensive on the store shelf at your grocery, whether you shop at Safeway or Whole Foods or one of the co-ops.

02:17:36.000 Very expensive.

02:17:37.000 That's owned by Kellogg's as well.

02:17:39.000 Another granola brand, Back to Nature, that sounds nice, that's owned by Kraft.

02:17:45.000 But you'll never see their name on there either.

02:17:47.000 Yeah, doesn't PepsiCo own one of the major brands out there?

02:17:50.000 Is that Mothers? 1.00

02:17:50.000 Yeah, I think that's PepsiCo. 1.00

02:17:54.000 Most of these people know that people are, Quaker is PepsiCo and I believe Mothers also.

02:18:04.000 So you know, when consumers are looking for value-added food and they're willing to pay a premium for it, most of the time that means organic.

02:18:16.000 These natural ones are what I like to call organic light.

02:18:20.000 Folks aren't just buying the granola or the cereal or the milk, they're buying the story behind that label.

02:18:27.000 How it was produced, where it was produced.

02:18:30.000 And they think they're supporting sound environmental stewardship.

02:18:33.000 They think that they're supporting more humane animal husbandry when it comes to meat and dairy.

02:18:39.000 And they think that one of the reasons it costs more is that economic justice for family farmers is built right into the price.

02:18:46.000 So when they find out we're really talking about giant agribusinesses, giant corporations, exploiting the trust of consumers, that the people that are doing the farming might be exploited immigrants, not small family farmers.

02:19:01.000 The cows might be living short, stressful lives.

02:19:04.000 You know, none of those things comport with the values and the story they think they're paying extra for.

02:19:11.000 Right, exactly.

02:19:12.000 Exactly.

02:19:15.000 Mark, I want to ask you to stay with us.

02:19:16.000 We're about to go to a break, but I have a couple more questions for you on the other side of this coming break.

02:19:21.000 Specifically, I'd like to ask you, what can parents and consumers look for on the labels To be as sure as possible that there are no GMOs in those products.

02:19:33.000 To the best of your knowledge, I'd like to ask you that question when we return.

02:19:38.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

02:19:39.000 We're going to continue to cover GMOs and the breaking news of today, the false flag assassination, embassy bombing attempt.

02:19:46.000 So stay with us here.

02:19:47.000 We'll be right back on The Alex Jones Show.

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02:24:17.000 Happy to join in and fill in today with the whole crew here, the InfoWars crew doing a fantastic job as usual.

02:24:24.000 And we are joined right now by Mark Castell from the Cornucopia Institute, which has released a groundbreaking new report exposing the genetically engineered ingredient content in, quote, natural foods.

02:24:39.000 It's extraordinary.

02:24:40.000 We're going to talk to Mark for a couple more minutes and then we're going to summarize some additional breaking news on the other news fronts.

02:24:48.000 Oh man, it is a day of just incredible news.

02:24:49.000 There's so much going on here.

02:24:51.000 If you see me looking around, if you're watching this on PrisonPlanet.tv, it's because I'm surrounded by headlines and stories everywhere.

02:24:58.000 There's so much to bring in.

02:25:00.000 There's no way we're going to get to it all, but let's continue with Mark Castell here from Cornucopia.

02:25:05.000 I asked you a question before the break, Mark, about how can parents and consumers know With at least some certainty, which cereals they can trust to be completely or substantially free of GMOs?

02:25:20.000 I think the best weapon in making sure that A, you have the safest food in terms of chemical residues, GMOs, antibiotics, hormones, is to look for that organic seal and to buy products that qualify for organic certification.

02:25:40.000 That is by far the most comprehensive food production system that there's out there.

02:25:47.000 It has federal law governing the standards.

02:25:52.000 It has lots of independent certifiers that inspect every farm and every plant every year to obtain that certification.

02:26:00.000 And then it has governmental and corporate watchdogs like the Cornucopia Institute to make sure that the USDA is actually fulfilling their duties, and they haven't always done that.

02:26:11.000 But there are lots of, most importantly, stakeholders.

02:26:14.000 The individual farmers that believe in this, the consumers that believe in this, that's our intelligence agents out here at the Cornucopia Institute.

02:26:22.000 We hear about problems, we're able to look at them.

02:26:26.000 Other than organics, there's nobody looking over the shoulder of corporate agribusiness.

02:26:31.000 They're just kind of painting this pretty marketing picture and expecting you to buy products that are really conventional food and the profit margins on these, quote, natural products are through the stratosphere.

02:26:44.000 Well, that's the other angle on this that really shocks a lot of people.

02:26:47.000 And by the way, Jaren, can you bring up a symbol?

02:26:49.000 Search the image of the USDA organic seal.

02:26:53.000 I'd like to put that on the screen for those watching this.

02:26:56.000 It's a green circular symbol and you need to be familiar with this symbol so that you can look for it.

02:27:02.000 That's what Mark was just mentioning.

02:27:05.000 If it doesn't have that symbol, it's not certified by the USDA.

02:27:08.000 And even though I personally don't have a lot of nice words for the USDA in general, I do know that their organic certification program is rock solid.

02:27:17.000 I've seen their inspectors working and inspecting, and they actually do a very good job.

02:27:22.000 That symbol means something, and I support that symbol.

02:27:26.000 Any comments on that, Mark?

02:27:27.000 Yeah, we've seen the organic programs relatively young and during the first year we uncovered a pretty fair amount of corruption.

02:27:39.000 At one point we partnered with Cornucopia and the Washington Post on an expose of kind of a way too cozy relationship between the woman who is running the National Organic Program during the Bush administration and corporate lobbyists.

02:27:55.000 And they were putting some synthetics in food that were illegal.

02:27:59.000 They were allowing some giant factory farms to produce eggs and milk.

02:28:04.000 And we've cleaned that up.

02:28:06.000 You know, I think the legacy of Barack Obama at the USDA is mixed at best.

02:28:15.000 But in terms of the organic program, they've appointed some people with high integrity, and it's not where it should be yet.

02:28:23.000 It's not 100% bulletproof, Mike, but it's getting there.

02:28:26.000 I think your impression is generally accurate.

02:28:29.000 Well, the other thing that people need to realize, and this was also mentioned in your report in various ways, that GMO contamination is so widespread right now that it's virtually impossible to get a breakfast cereal made with corn or soy that doesn't have at least some small level of GMO contamination.

02:28:49.000 But that might only be, what, 0.1% to 0.5%?

02:28:51.000 Something like that?

02:28:51.000 to 0.5%, something like that? - Yeah, there are very low thresholds.

02:28:57.000 You know, this really amounts to the fact that no matter what our number one issue is, and right now we're talking about food, but it could be about whether the citizenry gets accurate information before we go to war.

02:29:13.000 I mean, this is like Deja vu all over again.

02:29:16.000 I mean, remember the talking golf resolution.

02:29:20.000 Mark, I'm sorry I've got to cut you off here.

02:29:22.000 We're closing out this segment and I want to thank you for joining us and encourage those listening to go to cornucopia.org to learn more.

02:29:30.000 Mark, really appreciate you taking the time to talk with us.

02:29:33.000 Thanks for having us, Mike.

02:29:34.000 Great to have you on.

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02:29:36.000 We have a lot more breaking news, including a new headline just out from The Guardian.

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02:33:15.000 All right, an action-packed, news-filled day here on The Alex Jones Show.

02:33:19.000 I'm your fill-in host for today, Mike Adams, the editor of NaturalNews.com.

02:33:24.000 And I think Kurt Nemo just put up a story on Infowars.com about Walgreens.

02:33:29.000 This is a story that I wrote yesterday.

02:33:31.000 Walgreens, we've been getting reports from Walgreens customers that they feel like they're being bullied about getting a flu shot.

02:33:39.000 At Walgreens.

02:33:40.000 Like they're checking out at the checkout counter, you know?

02:33:42.000 And the employees there are saying, have you had a flu shot?

02:33:45.000 Do you want a flu shot?

02:33:46.000 Go get a flu shot!

02:33:48.000 And we're being told by people who say they are Walgreens employees that they're being rewarded with iPads if they meet a certain number of flu shot recruiting goals.

02:34:00.000 Now for the record, the Walgreens corporate media spokesperson that I spoke to yesterday denies any knowledge of this.

02:34:08.000 He didn't deny that it's happening, he just says that he wasn't aware of this.

02:34:12.000 So we posted a story, and now InfoWars has got the story, where if you have been bullied by Walgreens, get onto that story, click the links, and file a complaint with Walgreens, or with CVS Pharmacies.

02:34:26.000 They are pushing these vaccines so aggressively that people are getting angry.

02:34:31.000 And now you can take a stand against that by lodging a complaint with one or both of these pharmacies.

02:34:37.000 Or you could just, I guess, shut up and take your flu shot, which is what the vaccine industry wants you to do.

02:34:43.000 That's not okay with us around here.

02:34:45.000 Where are we?

02:34:46.000 We have been talking with Mark Castell from the Cornucopia Institute about GMOs in natural food products.

02:34:46.000 All right.

02:34:53.000 That was a really good segment.

02:34:54.000 If you missed that, go back and check the archives.

02:34:56.000 Make sure you understand that the term natural doesn't mean really anything in the food marketplace today.

02:35:03.000 In this segment, we're going to be joined by Mike Bundrant, who is a psychologist, very experienced in the realms of neuroscience and linguistics.

02:35:14.000 And, in fact, this gets to just an amazing story.

02:35:18.000 Here it is.

02:35:19.000 Published in the journal Nature Neuroscience, this scientific study is entitled, How Unrealistic Optimism is Maintained in the Face of Reality.

02:35:30.000 Now, this is fascinating stuff.

02:35:33.000 You'll want to tune in on this, because it explains why about four out of five people in the general population, they have something different about their brains.

02:35:44.000 That doesn't allow them to code in to grasp the reality of something negative.

02:35:51.000 This is why about 80% of the people you might see out there don't get it when it comes to false flag attacks, or vaccines, or fluoride in the water supply, or how big government is really trying to destroy your freedoms and take away your rights rather than save you and protect you and do all these things.

02:36:09.000 If you've ever asked the question, why don't people understand when I'm telling them about the reality that's out there, this scientific study could help explain that.

02:36:19.000 So joining us to analyze this and give us further details is Mike Bundrent.

02:36:24.000 He's also the publisher of Healthy Times newspaper that you'll find throughout California and other regions.

02:36:32.000 Mike, are you with us?

02:36:33.000 I'm with you.

02:36:34.000 How are you doing, Mike?

02:36:35.000 I am doing great.

02:36:36.000 Thank you for joining us today and I really appreciate your input on this.

02:36:40.000 What do you think about this study?

02:36:41.000 Well, it's a very interesting study.

02:36:44.000 I have to say that it doesn't come as a total shock for anyone who, you know, thinks a little bit about human nature and what's going on around us.

02:36:56.000 Um, that, you know, people tend to hear what they want to hear, see what they want to see, and sort of generate self-fulfilling prophecies about, you know, what works for them in terms of what they want.

02:37:08.000 So it's not a total shock.

02:37:11.000 However, it's very, very interesting that they have Actually, taking scans of people's brains and the way they work in the face of news that is worse than expected.

02:37:24.000 And the frontal lobe actually shuts down, of course not entirely, but it doesn't process information that is news that's worse than expected.

02:37:34.000 It's fascinating, but it sort of confers probably what a lot of people know.

02:37:39.000 Well, let me read from the abstract of this study again, which was published in the journal Nature Neuroscience.

02:37:45.000 And in the abstract it says, quote, highly optimistic individuals exhibited, quote, reduced tracking of estimation errors that called for negative update.

02:37:56.000 In right inferior prefrontal gyrus, these findings indicate that optimism is tied to a selective update failure.

02:38:03.000 Now, this is pretty technical language.

02:38:06.000 What does that mean in layman's terms?

02:38:08.000 Break it down, make it even simpler for us, Mike.

02:38:10.000 I'll make it even simpler.

02:38:12.000 Basically, I guess you could say that overly optimistic people are brain damaged, Mike.

02:38:23.000 I think that's, I guess that's a little too simplistic.

02:38:26.000 But here's the way that I understand this, that we are talking about, these people in the study were presented with negative information, information that's worse than expected.

02:38:38.000 And so if I, if you ask me, Mike, what's the chance that you'll get cancer in your lifetime?

02:38:44.000 And I say, well, I'd say it's 10%.

02:38:47.000 And you say, actually, the statistics, the data suggests That you have a 30% chance of getting cancer.

02:38:55.000 If I'm one of these overly optimistic people, I will literally, my frontal lobe will not process that information.

02:39:03.000 And I will not adjust my expectations accordingly, effectively keeping me in denial.

02:39:10.000 And we see this across the population on many issues that I hinted at earlier, that people, you know, when you tell people about, well, 9-11 was an inside job, let's say, and they might reply, no, it couldn't be.

02:39:23.000 Be more optimistic.

02:39:25.000 Why aren't you more optimistic?

02:39:26.000 You hear that a lot in the deniers out there.

02:39:29.000 Do you think this helps explain cognitively what's happening in their brains?

02:39:33.000 I think it actually explains what's happening in their brains.

02:39:38.000 Let's talk a little bit about the role of denial.

02:39:41.000 Denial is like fire.

02:39:46.000 It's a precious gift and it's a dangerous enemy, depending on how you use it.

02:39:51.000 If we didn't have the capability of denying certain realities or certain possibilities, then we would literally be overwhelmed.

02:40:03.000 With worry and fear from everything from did I leave the iron on when I left the house this morning to when am I going to die.

02:40:15.000 If I couldn't filter out all there is to worry about in life and just effectively deny that and focus on what I want to focus on.

02:40:26.000 None of us could function.

02:40:27.000 Right, so there's a positive role for this, too, in the sense that this helps us adapt to reality.

02:40:34.000 What about the idea of holding out real hope for freedom, for example?

02:40:39.000 How do we maintain optimism in the face of so much tyranny?

02:40:42.000 This phenomenon actually could help us in that context.

02:40:48.000 We could help us into that context, but we've got to get past the denial.

02:40:52.000 In other words, in order for real optimism, or pessimism for that matter, to take place, we have to be dealing with the truth.

02:41:02.000 So for example, let's say that it's the 10th of the month and I only have $100 in my checking account to make it to the end of the month, which is not a lot of money.

02:41:12.000 And if I could be optimistic or pessimistic about that, I could be optimistic and say, It's a challenge, but I'm going to find a way to make this work.

02:41:21.000 I'm going to cut back, I can do X, Y, and Z, and I'm going to get to the end of the month, and I know I can make it happen, and so forth, and I come up with a plan.

02:41:29.000 Or I could be pessimistic and say, oh, jeez, this isn't going to happen, and I'm going to lose my house, and I don't know what I'm going to do.

02:41:39.000 I have a choice to be optimistic or pessimistic.

02:41:42.000 What we're talking about here, though, with this study is that I'm not even acknowledging how much money is in my checking account in the first place.

02:41:52.000 So I'm just in a different reality.

02:41:54.000 I'm just denying reality in this situation, and that's what's dangerous.

02:42:04.000 We have to break through that barrier of denial and allow people, help people understand the reality of what's going on.

02:42:14.000 Then let's be optimistic, but let's be optimistic based on the truth.

02:42:19.000 There's really no problem, or very few problems, that we can't solve, right?

02:42:24.000 But if we don't Even look at the problem for what they are.

02:42:27.000 There's we don't have a prayer solving them.

02:42:30.000 And I think that's what's going on as a culture.

02:42:34.000 We're so in denial about just about everything well what's extraordinary about this is this term now is going to become i think a part of mainstream vernacular that term is unrealistic optimism so folks if you're listening i want you to repeat that term a couple of times because you're going to hear it more and more unrealistic optimism is maintained in the face of reality this story says that i

02:43:00.000 I had not really heard this term before, unrealistic optimism, and now we're seeing it as the title of a neuroscience article.

02:43:07.000 I think that's quite fascinating.

02:43:09.000 But in terms of practical aspects here, Mike, it seems like the, excuse me, the key issue is how do we balance this in our own lives so that we can maintain optimism where it's required to keep moving forward?

02:43:23.000 And yet not be hoodwinked into a state of denial about what's really happening in the world around us.

02:43:29.000 Do you have any tips on that balance?

02:43:31.000 The principle is to learn to manage your own emotions and your own anxiety.

02:43:31.000 I do.

02:43:37.000 To look at the truth, whether it's the truth about what's going on in the country or just the truth about how much money is in your checking account.

02:43:44.000 To look at that truth Um, is creates anxiety.

02:43:49.000 I mean, there's a lot to be worried about in terms of what's going on.

02:43:53.000 So, the first thing to do is to learn to manage our emotions.

02:43:58.000 Uh, on a, to become more efficient in them.

02:44:01.000 So the things that scare us, the things that we're uncomfortable with, to learn to look at those things in a way and get some skills to manage our state.

02:44:12.000 Because if we can't do that, Denial is the tool, the default tool, that we'll resort to.

02:44:21.000 The better we can manage ourselves, the less need we have for denial.

02:44:25.000 But wait a minute, Mike, why should we manage our own emotions?

02:44:28.000 I thought the government was going to tell us when to be afraid, when to feel patriotic, when to feel big, when to feel small.

02:44:35.000 I mean, the government tells us how to feel about everything, like this pretext for war.

02:44:39.000 Obviously I'm being facetious, but...

02:44:41.000 You know, it seems like the skill of managing our own emotions is not something that's really widespread throughout populations of the world.

02:44:51.000 In fact, it's not taught in schools.

02:44:55.000 Just like how to be in a relationship effectively.

02:44:58.000 How do you have a healthy, happy partnership or marriage?

02:45:03.000 How do you control your anxiety?

02:45:05.000 How do you make goals and plan for them and be efficient?

02:45:10.000 None of this is taught.

02:45:11.000 It's almost as if, Mike, the government does want us just to take their answers for it and follow them blindly.

02:45:19.000 In other words, perhaps The greatest propaganda for unrealistic optimism and the denial that goes with it are the messages we get in the mainstream media.

02:45:29.000 And so, learning to manage yourself, to me, is the first step toward taking an independent stand.

02:45:40.000 Mike, this is a really good analysis you're offering us, and I have more questions for you.

02:45:44.000 But first, do you have a website where people can learn more or see more of what you've written?

02:45:48.000 Sure.

02:45:50.000 My website is inlpcenter.com.

02:45:56.000 Okay, inlpcenter.com, Mike Bundrent is our guest here to give us some analysis of this study of, quote, unrealistic optimism that was published in Nature Neuroscience.

02:46:09.000 Now, my question for you, Mike, is How do you think these other factors might play into this phenomenon that we are discussing here?

02:46:18.000 For example, consuming fluoride, which we know numbs the mind, taking psychiatric medications, which we also know can cause just craziness in the brain, all kinds, you know, suicidal thoughts, even taking action on things like that.

02:46:33.000 What about the toxic food additives?

02:46:36.000 that are out there.

02:46:37.000 All these other toxic chemicals coming in, how might they interact with this phenomenon to potentially dull the minds of people and make them sort of zombie optimists?

02:46:48.000 Is that even the right term?

02:46:51.000 That's actually a very good term.

02:46:52.000 It's actually a very good term.

02:46:54.000 Every chemical that we put into our body is either gonna help us or hurt us, play a role in supporting our organs or not.

02:47:03.000 And the brain of course is an organ and the mind comes from the brain.

02:47:08.000 So if you're gonna do some work on yourself to the degree that you have brain numbing chemicals in your body, it's just going to make that work more difficult.

02:47:23.000 It'll feel sort of like digging through sludge.

02:47:26.000 A little bit.

02:47:26.000 Yeah.

02:47:28.000 Is it impossible?

02:47:29.000 Of course not.

02:47:31.000 If you're taking some sort of medication or if you eat a lot of chemicals, does that mean you're a total zombie?

02:47:38.000 No, of course not.

02:47:39.000 You're not as sharp as you might be.

02:47:41.000 But the key for everybody, no matter where you are, is to get started.

02:47:49.000 Learn some ways to manage your mind.

02:47:52.000 Learn some ways to reduce your anxiety.

02:47:54.000 Learn how to think more clearly.

02:47:57.000 Everybody, no matter where you're at right now, can in the next week or two, learn to think several degrees more clearly.

02:48:06.000 to learn to manage their emotions with 2% or 3% more efficiency and to feel just a little bit better simply by practicing, let's say, meditation, simply by practicing some cognitive behavioral techniques.

02:48:21.000 Everybody can take a step forward and...

02:48:24.000 It doesn't matter where you are.

02:48:26.000 And the ideal, of course, is to become self-sufficient, where you don't need medication in order to feel okay.

02:48:33.000 Right.

02:48:33.000 And you're aware.

02:48:34.000 You're able to be aware of what's going on with the food supply and the water supply, so that you can take measures to avoid it.

02:48:42.000 And there are ways to do that.

02:48:44.000 Just extraordinary information, and I hope those of you listening here are really getting this.

02:48:49.000 This is explaining the brain defect of those who can't see reality and who maintain what we're now calling zombie optimism. 0.66

02:48:56.000 But I want to be clear about this.

02:48:58.000 We are not opposed to optimism itself.

02:49:01.000 In fact, I consider myself an optimist.

02:49:03.000 I don't know about you, Mike.

02:49:04.000 You're probably an optimist, too.

02:49:05.000 I mean, I maintain optimism on issues like we are going to expose corruption.

02:49:11.000 We are going to protect the planet in the way that really matters.

02:49:15.000 Like, I'm optimistic about, I'm going to learn permaculture and practice permaculture and grow more of my own food no matter what.

02:49:22.000 I don't care what barriers are put in the way.

02:49:24.000 I'm going to be optimistic about making progress.

02:49:26.000 It seems like combining optimism with action is a real strategy for success.

02:49:31.000 Yes.

02:49:31.000 Optimism combined with action based on reality is an incredible combination for success.

02:49:40.000 Absolutely.

02:49:40.000 I mean, if you think about it, The odds don't have to be in your favor in order for you to succeed.

02:49:49.000 So, if I'm going to start a business, we all know that most businesses fail.

02:49:54.000 Okay.

02:49:55.000 But if I know that, if I go, wow, nine out of ten businesses fail within the first year of being in business, okay, that's the truth.

02:50:02.000 I'm not going to avoid that truth.

02:50:04.000 I want to start a business anyways.

02:50:06.000 And given the reality of how difficult it is, I'm going to make a list of everything that I need to do to give myself the best chance of success.

02:50:15.000 I'm going to do the research.

02:50:16.000 I'm sure I'm well funded.

02:50:18.000 We're just about to wrap this up.

02:50:19.000 20 seconds left.

02:50:20.000 Anything else you want to add as we wrap up this segment with you?

02:50:23.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:50:25.000 Even though that there is neuroscience and studies on the brain that show that the brain does certain things in order to create certain outcomes, we can take cognitive control.

02:50:39.000 We can influence whether or not that frontal lobe shuts down in the face of bad news.

02:50:44.000 Alright, good information from Mike Bundren.

02:50:46.000 Thanks for joining us on this segment.

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02:54:07.000 Tonight on InfoWars, nightly news beginning in transmission at 7 p.m.

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02:54:16.000 For those of you who are PrisonPlanet.tv subscribers, we're going to have Pepe Escobar on about the Iran false flag situation.

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02:54:50.000 We've got some additional insight and information for you on that.

02:54:54.000 Also on the Nightly News, we're going to be joined by Dr. David Brownstein.

02:54:59.000 Who is going to be commenting on this breaking news.

02:55:02.000 You know how they're attacking the vitamins again in the mainstream media.

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02:55:32.000 Man, there's always so much good stuff going on here.

02:55:34.000 We can have radio for six hours a day and still not cover all the news.

02:55:38.000 I know Alex feels the same way.

02:55:41.000 The story we promised earlier from Paul Joseph Watson has now been posted on InfoWars.com.

02:55:48.000 Title is, sources, US gives Israel green light for Iran strike.

02:55:54.000 Oh my, here we go, beating the war drum once again.

02:55:57.000 Paul Joseph Watson says the Obama administration's fabricated terror plot blamed on Iran represents the green light for an Israeli attack on Iran set to take place within the next two weeks, says according to confidential military sources who spoke with Alex Jones.

02:56:16.000 The story goes on.

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02:56:25.000 I bet you the CIA and the FBI are tuning in and listening to this show right now today and they are probably learning some new things because there are factions within every group in government and some factions have put this into play and other factions probably tried to resist it or are trying to stop it and they're shocked just as you are shocked.

02:56:46.000 Just as we are shocked by this, how so many of the key globalist players in our world are pushing us towards violence and pushing us towards war.

02:56:56.000 For example, here we go.

02:56:57.000 Here's a story out of The Guardian.

02:57:00.000 Headline, Saudis say Iran must quote, pay the price. 0.97

02:57:05.000 For alleged plot as U.S.

02:57:07.000 resists retaliation.

02:57:09.000 Again, this is published in The Guardian by, who is it?

02:57:12.000 Ewan McCaskill in The Guardian.

02:57:15.000 Tehran denies it was behind plot to kill Saudi ambassador and says the U.S.

02:57:20.000 is using it to divert attention from problems at home.

02:57:24.000 That sounds like a pretty good assessment, actually.

02:57:26.000 Iran may be exactly right on this particular analysis.

02:57:31.000 Again, I'm not I don't agree with the Iranian government and all their policies and so on, but they could very well be right with this particular analysis. 0.98

02:57:41.000 So we're going to learn more about that tonight as we go into the InfoWars Nightly News at 7 p.m.

02:57:47.000 Some other stories that we did not have time to get to today, but I want to mention to you very briefly some stuff that will blow your mind.

02:57:53.000 The FDA has approved another new antidepressant drug for dogs.

02:57:58.000 Yeah, so if your Fido or your Rover is feeling blue or bored, you can now drug them up, just like you drug your kids with psychiatric mind-altering drugs.

02:58:10.000 Just incredible.

02:58:11.000 All right, well, we're out of time, folks.

02:58:13.000 Retransmission of this show will begin shortly.

02:58:16.000 Alex Jones, Paul Joseph Watson, Dr. Steve Pachinik.

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