Alex Jones Show - 20111214_Wed_Alex

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00:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:31.000 Okay, my friends, here we are live.

00:00:42.000 It's Wednesday.

00:00:46.000 The 14th day of December 2011, and the news just gets more insane by the day.

00:00:54.000 Congressman Issa, the guy that's now said he's not going to move forward with trying to impeach or prosecute the Attorney General, the Attorney General over law enforcement, federal law enforcement, a total criminal on record, a serial perjurer, a false flag terrorist, Who has been caught red-handed shipping guns into Mexico, cocaine back into the country.

00:01:17.000 That's in all the federal court hearings.

00:01:19.000 It's admitted.

00:01:21.000 To blame the Second Amendment, that's all public.

00:01:24.000 And Issa said a week ago, I guess a week and a half ago, well it's up to Obama now if you're going to be fired.

00:01:30.000 I've done my investigation, you lied.

00:01:33.000 And Holder was arrogant in the hearings and didn't care.

00:01:40.000 Pointed out that Bush ran similar operations, and so the Republican Party says back off, because they're involved in it all as well.

00:01:50.000 And so even if Issa himself isn't involved in all this, the Republican Party says stand down, they stand down, and now the sky is the limit of what Holder can do.

00:02:01.000 You know, they had a big phone takeover drill a few days ago that scared everybody in New Jersey when the government hijacked their phones.

00:02:09.000 They spun it to say, oh, it was just the provider that did it.

00:02:12.000 But now, government fear-mongering alerts to go live tomorrow.

00:02:18.000 In test cities like New York, where they're going to break in over your phone.

00:02:22.000 The government said it won't just be text in the future, your phone, your phone call will be disconnected.

00:02:27.000 Whatever you're doing on your little handheld computer, that smart device, and it will be videos of the president or videos of the police chief and at Walmarts and...

00:02:36.000 Malls and on the street corners, big telescreens saying, trust no one but government.

00:02:40.000 I mean, these are already going in at thousands of locations.

00:02:43.000 Only trust your loving government.

00:02:45.000 I mean, it's like they went and got some dystopic science fiction movie of a nightmare police state future and said, let's just have it be outrageous.

00:02:54.000 And do it!

00:02:58.000 So...

00:03:00.000 Here is the Daily Caller.

00:03:01.000 Congressman Issa.

00:03:02.000 Privacy bill would give Holder broad new powers to police the Internet.

00:03:07.000 Yeah, The Washington Post, The Hill, they all admit it's quote Chinese style model of censorship. 0.99

00:03:14.000 Communist Chinese government style.

00:03:16.000 And they admit that it is a free speech kill switch.

00:03:19.000 That's one headline.

00:03:21.000 And that there's no due process, and the government and private corporations can just shut down anything they want, and they've already admittedly been grabbing sites, many of which that are totally innocent, but are destroyed.

00:03:32.000 Million dollar sites.

00:03:35.000 Because in a message board, somebody links to a place where there's some copyright music, or a copyright article, and then none of it's even proven.

00:03:46.000 This is another form of their tyranny.

00:03:49.000 Internet taxes, internet tracking, all of this is now unfolding.

00:03:53.000 So that's just one of the articles we have.

00:03:57.000 We have a gentleman that comes highly recommended from Oath Keepers, who's a former East German government individual, and he is going to be Talking about the parallels with what's happening here in the United States.

00:04:15.000 A member of Texas Housekeepers was a lieutenant colonel in the East German Army when communism collapsed and the Berlin Wall came down in 89.

00:04:23.000 So he can tell you all about the Stasi and the rest of it. 0.83

00:04:28.000 He's going to be in studio because he lives in Texas.

00:04:31.000 And then of course we have Max Keiser joining us in 30 minutes.

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00:04:48.000 We had it linked.

00:04:49.000 I saw it this morning in the Financial Times of London.

00:04:52.000 Yesterday, during another one of the congressional testimonies, the head of the CME Group decided to not go down with the ship.

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00:08:21.000 Here we are, my friends, defending basic Bill of Rights and Constitution, defending our Republic against enemies, foreign and domestic.

00:08:31.000 It is Wednesday, the 14th day of December, 2011.

00:08:38.000 And we have another just incredibly important broadcast wind up.

00:08:42.000 You know, I've tuned into older archives of 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 years ago, 10 years ago, 16 years ago, and I didn't start most broadcasts saying, a very important transmission today.

00:08:52.000 And I said that sometimes, and it's always important.

00:08:56.000 But now, who can deny the news just gets wilder and crazier every day.

00:09:03.000 World developments are coming so quick.

00:09:07.000 The world is in so much turmoil and upheaval and on the edge of major multi-region wars, they call those world wars by the way, that words really cannot describe how amazing what's happening is.

00:09:23.000 Now, Let me just mention the news that's coming up.

00:09:28.000 And you know I can never do this.

00:09:29.000 I get into the first article and then basically stall out and start getting into that report.

00:09:35.000 But let me just mention it here.

00:09:36.000 New Haven mayor says give illegal aliens right to vote in city elections.

00:09:41.000 That's also not just happening in Connecticut, but New York and New Jersey and California.

00:09:45.000 And the Justice Department's behind it.

00:09:47.000 And they're going to give all 30 million illegals the right to vote.

00:09:51.000 And then the right to bring their entire family here, and it's a coup. 0.96

00:09:55.000 And the illegals for welfare have said they will vote on average for total gun bans, private property being taken.

00:10:02.000 The bankers checkmate.

00:10:03.000 They've also tried this in Europe.

00:10:05.000 The illegals get free health care. 0.80

00:10:07.000 They get, on reports I've seen in Texas, more than half the school lunches are for illegals.

00:10:12.000 It's two-thirds in California.

00:10:14.000 The free welfare, all of it.

00:10:17.000 And illegals know how to work the system. 0.97

00:10:19.000 That actually, on average, I've seen the breakdowns, you can pull them up, the Justice Department admits it, they go out and do get jobs, and then go, under two or three aliases, and get welfare.

00:10:31.000 And then, they're so entitled, and actually so filled with the victim psychology, and a liberation theology by the Ford Foundation run government, that they actually believe that they're entitled to more.

00:10:43.000 And they're going to vote for it.

00:10:46.000 And the big collectivist government is going to give it to them. 0.97

00:10:49.000 And the paralyzed American population, no matter what color your race, color or creed is, you are to be nailed to the wall and sucked dry. 0.80

00:10:58.000 And then the country will implode into third world destruction, and the illegals will have all their goodies cut off, and if they go out and protest, they'll be machine-gunned by the paramilitary police, just like they are in Mexico. 0.98

00:11:12.000 And that's what's going on.

00:11:14.000 Period.

00:11:14.000 So, I'm going to get into that.

00:11:16.000 Again, here it is, NBC, New Haven asked state to allow non-citizens to vote.

00:11:22.000 Criminals, who get in-state tuition in most states. 1.00

00:11:25.000 You don't have a big heart if you don't do that.

00:11:28.000 I'm going to break this down more.

00:11:29.000 Of course, I don't get to go to Mexico and say, can I have in-state tuition?

00:11:32.000 I would be laughed at.

00:11:34.000 The police would line me up, break my nose, and say, we're going to put you in jail, guero, gringo, and then we're going to take every bit of money out of your bank account and you're never leaving this prison.

00:11:46.000 And our media wouldn't say a word, the State Department wouldn't say a word. 1.00

00:11:49.000 If they did, they'd say, That's what a piece of trash white person deserves. 1.00

00:11:53.000 Of course they do it to Hispanic Americans as well. 1.00

00:11:55.000 Asian, doesn't matter. 1.00

00:11:56.000 Because we are trash. 1.00

00:11:58.000 There is a belief that we are here to be walked on. 1.00

00:12:02.000 Americans are the enemy. 1.00

00:12:04.000 Americans are garbage. 1.00

00:12:05.000 And the bankers have helped foster this idea and teach it in school. 1.00

00:12:09.000 We're from Texas to California.

00:12:12.000 You cannot wear an American flag on your shirt.

00:12:15.000 You will be kicked out of school.

00:12:16.000 Because it is offensive!

00:12:18.000 And you're, okay?

00:12:19.000 So, that's coming up.

00:12:21.000 And again, it's all sold as humanitarianism!

00:12:24.000 Humanitarianism!

00:12:26.000 Here's another one.

00:12:27.000 Wisconsin faces lawsuit as civil rights groups cry foul over new voting rules.

00:12:32.000 ACLU accuses the state of trying to disenfranchise black people, the poor and elderly, by requiring photo ID before they can vote.

00:12:39.000 That's not enough.

00:12:39.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:12:40.000 Here in Texas, they give illegals driver's license on record.

00:12:44.000 I've had R. Day Cerveda in studio before, the police chief, saying, well, we need to be able to track these people and have them in the system.

00:12:50.000 And with that, the bank account, everything.

00:12:53.000 And again, no other country in the world does this.

00:12:56.000 Total red carpet, and now what are people saying?

00:12:58.000 This is Mexico.

00:13:00.000 We're taking over.

00:13:01.000 And who's teaching it?

00:13:02.000 Fortune 100.

00:13:03.000 Big banks.

00:13:04.000 Who's pushing it?

00:13:05.000 Because they want to break this country up.

00:13:08.000 And we're right at the tipping point.

00:13:10.000 Right as we go into bankruptcy.

00:13:12.000 Right as we implode.

00:13:13.000 Right as the narco-terrorism pours across the border.

00:13:16.000 It's all happening.

00:13:18.000 And as the government ships guns into Mexico, on record, as I told you two years ago, we even had a state senator on who had seen the secret documents at the state level, to have Mexico implode and use that to declare martial law on the Southwest.

00:13:31.000 This is all a plan to destroy Mexico and the U.S. 0.99

00:13:34.000 and Canada.

00:13:35.000 People better figure this out. 0.98

00:13:37.000 The globalists, the same ones that go in and kill a million Iraqis? 0.99

00:13:41.000 Same ones that put Al-Qaeda in control of Libya? 0.62

00:13:44.000 Same ones destabilizing Africa. 0.96

00:13:46.000 The policy is destabilization and stopping countries from industrializing.

00:13:51.000 That's the UN policy.

00:13:52.000 That's the State Department memorandum 200 policy.

00:13:56.000 It's order out of chaos.

00:13:57.000 It's destroy everybody while playing us off against each other.

00:14:01.000 And it's outrageous.

00:14:06.000 Continuing here, I'm going to get into this report.

00:14:08.000 Here it is.

00:14:09.000 Obama hauls Arizona before UN Human Rights Council.

00:14:11.000 Remember that from last year?

00:14:16.000 This is the type of stuff.

00:14:17.000 The feds won't enforce their own federal laws, and they won't let the states enforce laws, and total lawlessness is here.

00:14:24.000 But wait, it gets worse, and I'll get into the big news.

00:14:27.000 Of course, you heard on Monday, we reported on the LA Times article about Air Force Predator drones tracking citizens in rural areas under the North American Rural Council.

00:14:42.000 We don't have 50 governors anymore, we have 10 governors appointed by FEMA.

00:14:46.000 And under the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, it says for insurrection against the other states.

00:14:51.000 But the Governor Council will speak, that they will arrest governors if need be.

00:14:56.000 Just, you saw it in Europe, when the Presidents and Prime Ministers wouldn't hand their country over and waive all their rights on debts they didn't owe.

00:15:04.000 They were removed by the militaries quietly, in places like Greece, the military was on standby, and they put a Goldman Sachs operative, one of the former heads of the ECB, European Central Bank, in charge!

00:15:18.000 Same thing in Italy!

00:15:20.000 Same thing in Greece!

00:15:21.000 They are, and then they admit it!

00:15:23.000 It's the same thing here.

00:15:24.000 Northcom and our military individually are good people on average, but they're run by foreign banks publicly.

00:15:35.000 And after they're done imploding Europe, you see Europe imploding.

00:15:38.000 We told you that years ago.

00:15:39.000 Who's next?

00:15:41.000 Who's next?

00:15:42.000 Everybody says Asia's invincible and it's going to fall. 1.00

00:15:44.000 The globalists are going to bring Asia down, while bringing us down a little slower, and then North America's last.

00:15:50.000 And boy, it's going to be bad.

00:15:52.000 It's going to be real bad.

00:15:54.000 And the open announcement of world government run by six megabanks with Goldman Sachs as the commander.

00:16:03.000 I liken it to the frontline Field Marshal, or the Darth Vader to the Emperor Palpatine that's JPMorgan Chase, who they literally take their orders from.

00:16:13.000 That's it.

00:16:13.000 You want to know the New World Order?

00:16:14.000 Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan.

00:16:15.000 You want to know who owns it?

00:16:17.000 Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Queen of England, Queen of the Netherlands. 0.76

00:16:21.000 Publicly.

00:16:23.000 You want to know who wants open borders?

00:16:25.000 They do.

00:16:25.000 You want to know who wants your guns?

00:16:26.000 They do.

00:16:28.000 And again, you can't argue with the fact these illegals, now already voting all over the country, The state of Texas is like, okay, we're going to need to check citizenship, you know, with the ID before you can vote. 0.64

00:16:39.000 And the Justice Department was here yesterday.

00:16:41.000 The guy that ships guns into Mexico to kill thousands, the guy that ships cocaine to the U.S., the mastermind of Oklahoma City, he's here.

00:16:49.000 And he says, we may bring the U.N.

00:16:51.000 in, and we're going to stop the state from checking.

00:16:53.000 I mean, this is the treason of these people. 0.83

00:16:56.000 Admitted criminals.

00:16:59.000 But don't worry, the military is for you, the American people.

00:17:02.000 In fact, we can pull this up on screen.

00:17:04.000 It'd be great to show PrisonPlanet.tv viewers this.

00:17:06.000 Radio listeners, just type in, meet the North Dakota family of anti-government separatists busted by cops using a Predator drone.

00:17:15.000 After, quote, stealing six cows, and people are commenting in this story correctly.

00:17:20.000 They are getting it right.

00:17:23.000 They are understanding exactly what's going on.

00:17:26.000 The commenters are like, all over the United States in state law and common law, if people's cows come onto your property, you own them.

00:17:35.000 And that goes back to the damage they cause and the trouble and you're not keeping your fences up.

00:17:39.000 That's an old common law thing of possession being nine-tenths.

00:17:42.000 So the police show up and demand to be let onto the property and the family says no and the family gets all upset and reportedly had firearms in their vehicles so they call in the Air Force and the drone And Homeland Security, and it tracks the evil family who are anti-government, and the SWAT team raids them.

00:18:07.000 Again.

00:18:09.000 All sorts of crime, all sorts of corruption.

00:18:12.000 The Houston Chronicle reported, what was it, four years ago?

00:18:14.000 That a quarter million illegal aliens were released in Texas in one year out of the jails.

00:18:20.000 Many of which were aggravated felons that listed arson, rape, armed robbery, all of it.

00:18:27.000 And they were released.

00:18:30.000 They were released.

00:18:32.000 Oh, but don't worry, the North Dakota family, and if you put the article up on screen, you can scroll down, we can see these evil people who, by the way, didn't have any criminal record.

00:18:40.000 These evil people who said, look, there are cows, they keep busting through the fence and coming over here, they have a 3,000 acre farm, and the cows keep eating their farm vegetables, and that's when, under law, you can take them.

00:18:53.000 Quite frankly, my grandfather had some bulls that would jump fences, and the neighbor, after a couple times, went ahead and took them.

00:19:01.000 And my grandfather never even went and asked for him.

00:19:04.000 He knew.

00:19:04.000 He said, the neighbor doesn't offer to give him back.

00:19:06.000 I understand.

00:19:07.000 I need to fix that fence.

00:19:08.000 But nowadays, well, you just call in the predator drone.

00:19:11.000 How many millions of dollars does that cost?

00:19:13.000 Again, because they've passed in the Senate, we've got, now they're trying to pass it tomorrow in the House, in the conference, before it goes to Lord Obama's desk, the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act.

00:19:26.000 And when we come back, I'm going to get into that.

00:19:29.000 Forty members of House protest indefinite detention bill, and we reportedly have until tomorrow, because the House already passed one version, the Senate did.

00:19:36.000 Now it's in conference, they're looking at both pieces of it and trying to integrate it, and then it'll go to the President.

00:19:43.000 We need to say no to this.

00:19:46.000 And by the way, now you've got the Senators who've been involved in it, Graham, McCain, And others coming out and saying, yes, it affects citizens and Obama!

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00:24:08.000 By the way, again, most of the family living on this farm there in North Dakota didn't have a criminal record.

00:24:19.000 The dad gets arrested for, you know, the checkpoints for not having his papers in order.

00:24:24.000 And they had arrested him for not reporting the stray cattle that came onto your property.

00:24:31.000 And I've looked up the North Dakota law.

00:24:33.000 It's the same all over the country.

00:24:35.000 He didn't have to give the cattle back.

00:24:37.000 They came on his property.

00:24:39.000 On his farm.

00:24:40.000 Anybody who's been involved in farming and ranching knows this.

00:24:43.000 So they show up without warrants, demand their way onto the property, and that's when...

00:24:51.000 The family said, no, you don't have a warrant, get out of here.

00:24:53.000 So they summoned the $154 million MQ-9 Predator B drone from nearby Grand Forks Air Force Base.

00:25:02.000 And it's got the cops, and they're going, we got great intelligence from the military.

00:25:07.000 Intelligence on us, I know.

00:25:09.000 You're dinner.

00:25:10.000 You're slaves, I understand.

00:25:11.000 Don't worry, though. 1.00

00:25:12.000 The whole country's going to collapse, just like you parasites want. 1.00

00:25:16.000 Okay? 1.00

00:25:16.000 It's all gonna fall apart. 1.00

00:25:18.000 Your whole family's future, you're gonna be judged by your own evil.

00:25:21.000 And it's gonna be like a third world country. 0.99

00:25:22.000 There'll be nothing for you to suck off of anymore. 0.98

00:25:25.000 No matter how rich this country was. 0.91

00:25:28.000 And the articles are all, they lived on the 3,000 acre family farm the police call a compound.

00:25:34.000 Because they had different houses on it.

00:25:37.000 Oh my gosh, the father and his wife and the three sons and some of their wives live there, farming!

00:25:44.000 And of course we had an ADL report yesterday we covered on the nightly news and Paul Watson wrote about it at Infowars.com, a secret meeting with citizens in the Sheriff's Department about small government terrorists.

00:25:58.000 And the manual says if people are talking about small government, Report them!

00:26:02.000 They're terrorists!

00:26:03.000 They're these people that believe in freedom and private property and guns! 0.60

00:26:08.000 They've got tractors!

00:26:10.000 They know how to grow things!

00:26:11.000 They've got guns!

00:26:12.000 Homeland Security!

00:26:13.000 ADL! 0.75

00:26:15.000 Save me!

00:26:16.000 In fact, I covered that on the Nightly News.

00:26:17.000 Will you guys reprint me that article?

00:26:20.000 Headline, Secret Sheriff's Meeting for Small Government Terrorists.

00:26:26.000 And it's got the manual right there on the article.

00:26:29.000 There's these people, they want small government.

00:26:32.000 The ADL's like, oh, law enforcement, the citizens are there at the secret meeting.

00:26:37.000 Sheriff, how do we deal with these people?

00:26:38.000 They're talking to neighbors.

00:26:41.000 They say they have a right to freedom.

00:26:44.000 Get them!

00:26:45.000 Get them!

00:26:48.000 Oh, ADL, Foreign Intelligence Operation of Israel. 0.94

00:26:51.000 What do we do about these evil Americans? 1.00

00:26:53.000 I mean, that's what this country has become.

00:26:56.000 And you read this article, meet them.

00:26:58.000 Brossarts, a North Dakota family deemed so dangerous the local sheriff needed to unleash an unmanned predator drone to help bring them in.

00:27:07.000 The Brossarts allege crime they wouldn't give back free cows and their calves that wandered onto their 3,000 acre farm this summer.

00:27:16.000 The same aerial vehicles used by the CIA to track down and assassinate terrorists and militants in Pakistan and Afghanistan are now being deployed by cops to spy on Americans in their own backyards.

00:27:28.000 But don't videotape a cop in public! 0.94

00:27:30.000 They'll have a pick-kept jury put your butt in prison for life, or they'll sure try. 0.95

00:27:35.000 Prison for life! 0.94

00:27:37.000 And they'll sit there with a straight face and tell the judge, I want him to go to prison.

00:27:40.000 The judge's like, you bet we want him to.

00:27:42.000 What do you think, in America you're gonna videotape us in the city street?

00:27:46.000 You don't do nothing but pay our salary, slave! 1.00

00:27:52.000 Continuing here with the article that goes on, the brosarts of the first known suspects of the high-flying new surveillance technology the federal government has made available to some local sheriffs and police chiefs, all without congressional approval or search warrants.

00:28:07.000 We don't need no stinking congressional approval to launch wars, or shut down coal power plants, or Have U.N. 1.00

00:28:14.000 oversee elections, or do whatever we want, or kill U.S. 0.52

00:28:18.000 citizens. 0.94

00:28:19.000 That's what Obama said.

00:28:19.000 I don't need to sign your bill.

00:28:21.000 But if you're going to pass it, you better add American citizens in there.

00:28:23.000 Republicans are like, you bet we hate them as much as you do.

00:28:26.000 He's like, good job.

00:28:27.000 Keep conning them. 0.92

00:28:28.000 Keep acting like we're fighting with each other.

00:28:30.000 Try to get that Ringer Gendrich in there.

00:28:32.000 How's that sound?

00:28:32.000 They're like, you bet we'll get that job done.

00:28:35.000 I'm going to play like I'm against it, though.

00:28:37.000 They're like, that's a good way to fool the slaves. 0.81

00:28:38.000 Ha ha ha, yeah.

00:28:40.000 I mean, they just know exactly what they're doing.

00:28:43.000 And you've got all your excuses of why you do all this, and why you need all the surveillance, and violate our rights, how it's all for the good of America.

00:28:51.000 Everybody knows in their gut, it's pure baloney.

00:28:55.000 Okay?

00:28:56.000 Everybody knows, and it's gonna get ten times worse.

00:29:01.000 Local authorities, not servants.

00:29:03.000 Authorities say that the family are known for being armed.

00:29:06.000 Oh, Mike!

00:29:07.000 Oh, farmers that are armed!

00:29:09.000 Oh! 0.60

00:29:10.000 Oh! 0.60

00:29:10.000 Anti-government separatist who's sprawling farm. 0.60

00:29:14.000 Oh, that's really evil.

00:29:15.000 Remember what the entire Homeland Security Behind the Closed Doors training is?

00:29:18.000 We've got the manuals.

00:29:19.000 It's all about country boys that can survive.

00:29:21.000 If you can skin a buck and run a trot line, the Pentagon... I've been to the drills.

00:29:25.000 I've made films.

00:29:26.000 And let me tell you, they're training to take on farmers and ranchers and people wearing John Deere hats.

00:29:31.000 In the drills.

00:29:32.000 And they practice when they capture you, putting you on the ground and blowing your head off.

00:29:37.000 I got it on video.

00:29:38.000 Police State 2000.

00:29:39.000 You wearing a John Deere hat?

00:29:41.000 You like the Second Amendment?

00:29:42.000 You like George Washington? 0.98

00:29:44.000 The New World Order is training the military and police that you're a demon. 0.62

00:29:47.000 You think I'm joking?

00:29:48.000 This isn't satire.

00:29:49.000 I got footage of cops pulling people over.

00:29:51.000 They've got to sue some rule book and they start heavy breathing and have to rest on the car in fear going, I can't believe we found one boss!

00:29:58.000 I can't believe we found... We're on the march.

00:30:01.000 The Empire's on the run.

00:30:03.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:30:06.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.

00:30:16.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

00:30:19.000 As we're finishing off this agenda, that we're pulling the rug from underneath the Americans at home.

00:30:24.000 I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

00:30:30.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?

00:30:33.000 Bernanke?

00:30:34.000 They're arsonists!

00:30:34.000 They're asking for more matches!

00:30:35.000 The whole of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.

00:30:38.000 The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.

00:30:45.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.

00:30:48.000 They're asking for more matches.

00:30:49.000 And the Congress is saying, "Who do we make the checkout to?" Today, it seems like nobody does care.

00:30:54.000 And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.

00:30:59.000 Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at InfoWars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv Hi, this is Alex Jones.

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00:32:10.000 A very wealthy US citizen is predicting that in 2011, we will witness the most important day in America in more than 50 years.

00:32:18.000 He says it will change everything about our lives.

00:32:21.000 The way you shop, travel, invest, educate your children, and even how you take care of your health and your own family.

00:32:26.000 Now this man has made some outrageous predictions over the years.

00:32:29.000 The crazy part is, he's usually right.

00:32:31.000 You see, he predicted the collapse of GM, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and America's biggest mall owner, General Growth Properties.

00:32:38.000 In fact, Barron's called his work a dire prophecy.

00:32:41.000 Recently, he created a video, which you can watch online for free, detailing his biggest and most important prediction yet.

00:32:47.000 And it's a real eye-opener.

00:32:48.000 I can't stress this enough.

00:32:50.000 You should at least watch this free video online today.

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00:33:12.000 Big Brother.

00:33:14.000 Mainstream media.

00:33:16.000 Government cover-ups.

00:33:18.000 You want to stop tyranny?

00:33:20.000 Well, so does he.

00:33:22.000 Live from the InfoWars.com studios, it's Alex Jones.

00:33:28.000 All right, Max Keiser is going to be with us about 15-20 minutes in the next hour.

00:33:33.000 He's going to join us here in about five minutes and then go right through the next hour.

00:33:35.000 And we're going to open the phones up next hour for Max and then continuing into the third hour when a former East German colonel, Army colonel...

00:33:44.000 Uh, who's part of Oath Keepers, is gonna be here to join us in studio.

00:33:48.000 He lives here in Texas now, uh, to, uh, break down the horrors of, uh, collectivism and, and the, and the police state.

00:33:56.000 They hired Marcus Wolf, uh, eight years ago to help set up what is Homeland Security today.

00:34:01.000 He's since died.

00:34:02.000 He was the former head of the Stasi.

00:34:05.000 And when I first saw that in the news, I didn't believe it, and I actually went to the Congressional Homeland Security funding numbers, and he was paid over a million a year For at least three years consecutively after that to help set up everything.

00:34:20.000 That's why you're like, wow, it's just like the Stasi, you know, the biggest police state ever known in East Germany.

00:34:26.000 It was kind of like the Nazis merged with communism.

00:34:28.000 Talk about a nightmare situation.

00:34:31.000 And that's because that's what it is.

00:34:33.000 Now, if you heard me ranting there, it's because I'm in a lot of pain.

00:34:37.000 I mean, it's all coming true.

00:34:38.000 I know where this goes next.

00:34:40.000 I've got chills now every five seconds, not every, you know, two weeks or something.

00:34:46.000 I'm having bad chills right now.

00:34:47.000 Chills of my body saying, danger, Will Robinson, danger.

00:34:54.000 And I know how they slowly have trained the police and military to accept all this.

00:34:58.000 And now they're rolling out the use of Northcom against the people right as they get ready to start imploding the world economy.

00:35:03.000 You think things are bad so far?

00:35:05.000 This is just the preparatory phase.

00:35:07.000 We'll put on screen for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers an article that went up yesterday evening.

00:35:12.000 That's a problem with InfoWars.com as we write so much and do so much research that there's updates at 6am, 10am or so, noon, 2 o'clock, 4 o'clock, 6 o'clock, and Watson tends to be working at midnight over in England, which is 6 o'clock here.

00:35:27.000 Central, and that's when that article went up, it was later in the afternoon, his time, our time, night time, his time, it didn't get much attention.

00:35:33.000 It's big.

00:35:34.000 Sheriff's Department sponsors secret meeting on small government terrorists.

00:35:38.000 We've got the ADL training manual there with the mayors and the local constabulary to literally make them feel like they're part of the authority system and they sit there with straight face and bad mouth.

00:35:50.000 People that talk about cutting government in any way are what they call Terrorist and we can click on it and actually show you the manual there that the ADL gives them and I see this in our local news the ADL is advising police and schools And then you find out they're training the school kids to spy on their parents and stuff.

00:36:10.000 I mean it's so over-the-top That this is going on investigative researcher and director of special projects ADL location Carmelo, California The Sovereign Citizen Movement is a loosely organized collection of groups and individuals who have adopted a right-wing, anarchist ideology.

00:36:31.000 You mean they're not slaves?

00:36:32.000 You mean they're like the Founders?

00:36:34.000 Its adherents believe that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate, and they seek to restore an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed.

00:36:43.000 Oh, really?

00:36:45.000 Sovereign citizens wage war against the government and other forms of authority.

00:36:49.000 Yeah, info war, using paper terrorism.

00:36:52.000 You mean pro se, winning all... Oh, let's stop right there.

00:36:55.000 You know, I just... And we're about to go to Max Keiser.

00:36:58.000 I remember 16 years ago, pro se people, lawyers who'd woken up and others coming to me and saying, there aren't real mortgages.

00:37:08.000 It's illegal.

00:37:09.000 They put them in an electronic filing system.

00:37:11.000 This mirror system is illegal.

00:37:13.000 They're selling them in derivatives.

00:37:16.000 And I had to go research it because it sounded so crazy.

00:37:18.000 And George Humphrey, an economist, former city council guy, he told me about it.

00:37:22.000 But I remember ADL and Southern Poverty Law Center stuff just three years ago saying there are crazy people that claim the mortgages have been sold over and over again and that they're taking houses that they don't have mortgages to.

00:37:34.000 This is paper terrorism. 0.53

00:37:35.000 And I remember seeing articles where, in one case it was Wisconsin.

00:37:39.000 I forget because I had the guy's wife on. 0.90

00:37:42.000 He's since gone to jail and been real sick in there.

00:37:44.000 But the point is, I forget his name.

00:37:46.000 We need to pull it up.

00:37:47.000 He was in a wheelchair.

00:37:48.000 And they took his house that was paid for, threw this fraud, and when he sued them over it, they arrested him, charged him with some paper terrorism thing, because the judges and everybody are so evil.

00:37:59.000 And he went to jail, I think it was for 14 years.

00:38:03.000 Anyways, I just had another remembrance here of just how evil it is.

00:38:07.000 And they sit there, but see, now it doesn't work.

00:38:10.000 But do the cops remember?

00:38:12.000 I know there's cops all over the country listening.

00:38:14.000 Do you remember just three or four years ago and before that being taught, these dangerous crazies claim the mortgages are a fraud and they don't owe them?

00:38:22.000 You know, that's how they lie to you.

00:38:23.000 They say that you don't owe anything on your mortgage. 0.76

00:38:26.000 Aren't they crazy?

00:38:27.000 And the cops, I've got training videos of it, all go... 0.55

00:38:32.000 We've aired them here. 1.00

00:38:32.000 They are nuts! 1.00

00:38:34.000 The banks wouldn't take houses they didn't have the deed to! 1.00

00:38:38.000 That's crazy!

00:38:39.000 Now it's all over thousands of newspapers admit it.

00:38:43.000 We knew what we were talking about again!

00:38:46.000 Now are there people out there who try to investigate the law themselves and don't know what they're filing or how they're filing it or kooky groups that You know, file bonds and demand $10 million from the government.

00:38:57.000 Yeah, there's some of that, but the vast majority of it is real and legitimate, and it's people, even in their own manuals, they say that are losing everything and who are desperate.

00:39:05.000 I mean, what are you supposed to do?

00:39:06.000 They're coming to take your little house, your little farm, but you can't pay the property taxes?

00:39:09.000 They're just going to give it to some big bank that you've already bailed out with your tax money and it happens?

00:39:14.000 All right, we're going to Max Keiser.

00:39:15.000 The point is, is that It's all happening.

00:39:18.000 It's all coming down.

00:39:19.000 And as they squeeze and squeeze and squeeze, and as 11% of Texas has arrest warrants out for them, and as the government can engage in any crime they want, I mean, look at that quote right there.

00:39:30.000 Look at that quote right there.

00:39:33.000 Where they said they believe the government's illegitimate.

00:39:36.000 Well, the founders did the Declaration of Independence.

00:39:38.000 Everything that the British government was doing is exactly what our government is doing, but more.

00:39:45.000 Our government He is shipping guns into Mexico and drugs back into the country, and it's in all the federal filings, and was finally in the New York Times two Sundays ago.

00:39:55.000 Our government's caught perjuring itself. 0.68

00:39:56.000 Our government's been caught running white slavery, sex slavery worldwide. 0.98

00:40:00.000 Mainstream news.

00:40:01.000 I mean, the British were doing all sorts of corrupt stuff and insider deals and taxes and things, but they weren't giving 10,000 guns to the Indians to then attack their own settlers, to take the settlers' guns.

00:40:18.000 I mean, you read the Declaration of Independence, everything they list, the government's doing today.

00:40:22.000 But then more!

00:40:22.000 Go read it.

00:40:24.000 I mean, was Hitler illegitimate?

00:40:26.000 You know, they had a big debate in Philadelphia a month ago, and the BBC headline was, is the Declaration of Independence illegal?

00:40:33.000 And they actually had newspapers in the US come out and say, no, and agree, it's illegal, as the BBC said, because you're not allowed to tell a sovereign government it's ever wrong.

00:40:43.000 Really, then Stalin, Mao, Hitler, they were all good. 0.99

00:40:46.000 Caligula was good.

00:40:48.000 Every monster's been good.

00:40:51.000 No, we all know that's not the case. 0.96

00:40:52.000 And so, yes, you are illegitimate.

00:40:55.000 The government has given 27-plus trillion dollars of our tax money to mega-banks that sold fraudulent derivatives.

00:41:02.000 Our country is run by these banks.

00:41:04.000 Europe is publicly run by them now.

00:41:06.000 It's illegitimate.

00:41:07.000 And so the ADL's running around everywhere teaching the police that we're terrorists because we're telling people this, and that our words are terrorism?

00:41:14.000 Okay, I'm going to stop right there, and I apologize to Max for having him hold eight minutes.

00:41:17.000 I'm going to go to him now.

00:41:18.000 I just had to get to that.

00:41:21.000 Coming up after Max leaves us, uh, 20...

00:41:27.000 What is it?

00:41:27.000 There's something like 20 senators that are concerned now, and before that it was only 7 that voted against it.

00:41:33.000 There's a total of 40 members of Congress are protesting indefinite detention bill, and it's in conference right now.

00:41:40.000 The House is set to pass it tomorrow.

00:41:42.000 It's now admitted that Obama had it added in there while claiming he was against it.

00:41:46.000 I mean, that's the kind of stuff Rick Perry does.

00:41:49.000 So all of that's going on.

00:41:51.000 We just have incredible information coming up.

00:41:53.000 But I wanted to get Max Keiser up to get his perspective on this and we've got some other bombshell gun control gun grabbing news uh... going on but before before we do that I just want to preface here and then go to Max and play the video clip.

00:42:09.000 This is out of the Financial Times of London.

00:42:11.000 I saw it last night at Zero Hedge.

00:42:14.000 We had it up at InfoWars.com.

00:42:17.000 CME chief alleges Corzine aware of transfers.

00:42:22.000 Now, they had prepared at the big commodities exchange group, the old mercantile out of Chicago They had prepared, to put this in layman's terms, and then we'll get Max Keiser's expert take on it, a prepared statement for the head of the CME Group, who had said that everything that was going on in the commodities was insured, on record.

00:42:44.000 And now they're talking about $1.2 to $3 billion missing.

00:42:47.000 First it was $600 million, then $900 million.

00:42:49.000 And that's back in USA Today, they're saying it's at least $1.2 billion or more today.

00:42:55.000 Corzine's been to two different committees, he's got one more, he gets up there and says, I know nothing as the CEO, I don't know where the money went, and I never said take it, and no one knows where it went, as if the government doesn't know where the transfers went.

00:43:06.000 It's reportedly JP Morgan, that came out. 0.98

00:43:08.000 But it's just like, everybody plays dumb. 0.96

00:43:10.000 And he says, I know nothing like Sgt. 0.98

00:43:12.000 Schultz and Hogan's Heroes, but it's people's money.

00:43:14.000 Farmers, ranchers, and others.

00:43:16.000 You know, the terrorists the drones are training to take out?

00:43:19.000 That's why they got GPS coordinates to all your front doors?

00:43:22.000 I've talked to people in the Pentagon, and it's come out.

00:43:24.000 It is to send missiles into your house.

00:43:27.000 People a year ago were like, that's crazy.

00:43:29.000 Now you're learning!

00:43:31.000 Again.

00:43:32.000 So the CME had its prepared text, and I have that up at InfoWars.com.

00:43:40.000 Here's the headline, presenting the three unscripted sentences that may have cost Corzine his freedom.

00:43:46.000 And the head of the CME Group is saying he was in on the meetings and that he was told Corzine was the one that ordered the money to be transferred out.

00:43:53.000 I'm going to play the clip in a moment.

00:43:55.000 It's all in lawyer speak.

00:43:56.000 But this is a big deal. 0.98

00:43:57.000 This is the big fat CME Group rat who was attacking Gerald Cilente and others just three weeks ago and saying we're nuts. 0.93

00:44:07.000 He is now, he's not going to go to prison for lying to Congress. 0.97

00:44:11.000 Why should he?

00:44:12.000 When it's Corzine, why should he lie for Corzine? 0.89

00:44:14.000 So the rats, just like in the Justice Department on Fast and Furious, are turning on each other.

00:44:18.000 Now the question is, will they just say, well he doesn't matter if he ordered it and has been caught lying as if we don't know he ordered it?

00:44:24.000 Go ahead and let Corzine, the big White House advisor, get away with it.

00:44:27.000 I give you Max Keiser until the bottom of the next hour.

00:44:30.000 Graciously joining us at MaxKeiser.com.

00:44:33.000 American broadcaster, filmmaker, former equities broker.

00:44:35.000 Keiser is the host of On The Edge, BBC, Press TV, RT.

00:44:39.000 They invented the virtual trading system used by many stock markets around the world today.

00:44:43.000 MaxKeiser.com.

00:44:45.000 Max, this is a big deal, is it not?

00:44:47.000 Do you agree this is a big giant rat in front of everyone, leaving the sinking ship?

00:44:53.000 Alex, how's it going?

00:44:54.000 Thanks for having me on.

00:44:55.000 Can you hear me okay?

00:44:55.000 Good to have you.

00:44:57.000 Yes, sir.

00:44:58.000 All right, great.

00:44:59.000 Well, this is what I'm hearing, basically, over at MF Global, is that Corzine, of course, being somebody who doesn't really know how to run a brokerage business, he was speculating in his firm, MF Global, and he rang up about a billion, billion and a half dollars in losses

00:45:26.000 And it was going to come to the point where he'd have to call up his creditors, which in this case is JP Morgan, and tell them that he was going to go bankrupt, that he wouldn't make good on that collateral. 0.67

00:45:40.000 At which point Jamie Dimon told John Corzine, either take that money out of your customer accounts, or we'll kill you.

00:45:49.000 So he threatened to kill Corzine if he didn't take the money out of the customer accounts, and Corzine did exactly that.

00:45:56.000 He took the money out of the customer accounts, and now the customers don't get their money.

00:46:00.000 By the way, Max, you don't make stuff up from the time that I've talked to you.

00:46:04.000 Sometimes you joke around and stuff, but when you're serious, you don't really toot your horn a lot.

00:46:08.000 I mean, you know George Soros, you know his son, you know, I mean, High-powered people like Steve Forbes see you and walk over and recognize you.

00:46:15.000 You worked at the highest levels of this.

00:46:17.000 They all know you.

00:46:19.000 You're friends with Alec Baldwin.

00:46:20.000 You know them all from the New York scene.

00:46:22.000 And so if you're saying that, this is breaking.

00:46:26.000 You're saying you have sources. 0.90

00:46:28.000 that are saying that they told them we're gonna kill you and that is how they operate.

00:46:33.000 I mean they run the wars.

00:46:35.000 JPMorgan is the boss and then of course below that is their mafia Don Goldman Sachs and you're saying JPMorgan told him, Jamie Dimon told him, you do this or you're gonna sleep with the fishes.

00:46:49.000 Right, ask John Perkins, Confessions of an Economic Hitman.

00:46:54.000 This is the way American banks do business around the world, now they're doing it in America.

00:46:59.000 Just like America flies drones around the world, now they're doing it in America.

00:47:03.000 America tortures and kills people around the world, now they do it in America.

00:47:07.000 So it's just like Madoff, it's just like Madoff.

00:47:10.000 I mean, now it's been admitted, and federal courts are even having to admit it, that, wait a minute, he moved a bunch of money to people and warned people, and he was really just a front man, as you said a year and a half ago, for bigger interest.

00:47:22.000 And the same thing you said years ago was, you know, they're basically told, you take the fall or you're dead.

00:47:29.000 Right, I mean you mentioned Madoff.

00:47:31.000 Let's talk about Madoff for a second.

00:47:33.000 It's interesting that Madoff, Lehman Brothers, AIG and MF Global, all of them run through the City of London because only in the City of London is it possible to re-hypothecate, that is to say re-loan securities out Putting up no collateral whatsoever.

00:47:55.000 They have a situation there which is infinite hypothecation.

00:47:58.000 In America, you can only lend out 140% of customer accounts for loans.

00:48:05.000 So there's no fractional reserve banking in the City of London.

00:48:08.000 It's to infinity.

00:48:09.000 That's absolutely correct in this context.

00:48:13.000 And that's why AIG, Lehman Brothers, Madoff, and MF Global all go through the City of London.

00:48:19.000 Which is why when David Cameron recently had his kerfuffle in Brussels where he said, I'm going to safeguard the City of London and I'm not going to be part of your treaty revision.

00:48:32.000 Well, what he's saying is that his masters, the people in the City of London, Who are a part of this, the epicenter of the Global Financial Terrorism Network, are telling David Cameron that in no circumstances will they ever allow anyone to regulate them in any way.

00:48:52.000 So Cameron dutifully ran back to London with his tail between his legs doing the bidding of the Financial terrorists in the City of London, which gave us, again let me repeat, they gave us MF Global, AIG, Lehman and Madoff, and they are the epicenter of this meltdown that's happening now.

00:49:10.000 What's happening in Europe, as everyone can see, is the banks are melting down.

00:49:15.000 No matter how much money Let's say the European Central Bank makes available to try to smooth out the problems in these European banks, the hedge funds and the private equity managers can create ten times that amount of credit default swaps used to Crack that bond market to get those yields high to crush these countries because they want to buy all the assets for pennies on the dollar.

00:49:42.000 We're seeing it in Greece.

00:49:43.000 They're buying the assets for pennies on the dollar.

00:49:44.000 We're seeing it in Ireland.

00:49:46.000 They're giving away assets for pennies on the dollar.

00:49:48.000 They want to do the same thing in Italy.

00:49:50.000 They want to do the same thing in Spain and France.

00:49:52.000 And they use these credit default swaps again.

00:49:56.000 What's the point of always raising taxes and regulations till all the small farms and businesses go bankrupt is so that then you get to own those and now they're sharecroppers, they're now renters, and what they previously owned, and that's what's so scary, Max, for at least 15 years, quietly behind the scenes, the entire architecture is to wage war on rural communities in the U.S.

00:50:18.000 and now they're admitting it.

00:50:19.000 Rural affairs...

00:50:21.000 These interest rates on these European bonds, they keep going 6, 7%, 8%, which we hear is the unsustainable levels that are guaranteed for a deflationary implosion.

00:50:31.000 Well, why do they keep going higher?

00:50:32.000 It's because no matter what anyone does in the governments, the private equity and the hedge fund managers, which are bigger than any governments, use naked swaps and credit default swaps to crush the bond market to get those yields high to bankrupt these corporations.

00:50:48.000 And they're able to do it through the loophole that is the City of London, which allows you to borrow an infinite amount of money with no collateral whatsoever.

00:50:56.000 Stay there.

00:50:56.000 Now Max, stay there.

00:50:57.000 I understand you're giving us how the scam works, but I want to get into specifically, and the video clip's coming up in the audio, the magnitude of the head of the CME Group, the big commodities umbrella, Not lying for Corazon and saying Corazon's lying in correctional testimony.

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00:54:37.000 Going back to him here in just a moment, and he's getting into the technicals of how this inner group of six big banks and brokerage firms can just create unlimited capital.

00:54:46.000 And that's how they get away with all this.

00:54:47.000 And now it came out in Reuters, Bloomberg, you name it, that JPMorgan got the money.

00:54:53.000 And then they just said, well, never mind that.

00:54:55.000 We're not even going to say that didn't happen, but we're just going to say we don't know where it went.

00:55:00.000 And then they kept saying, you'll get your money back.

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00:55:07.000 And now the head of the CME group has come out and said, I was in the meetings and he, uh, I was told that he's the one that gave the orders.

00:55:14.000 Of course he gave the orders as the CEO.

00:55:17.000 Of course!

00:55:18.000 I mean, this is crazy!

00:55:19.000 He's the former head of Goldman Sachs, but notice it's JP Morgan telling the Goldman Sachs people, and I want to nail Max down on specifically the thing of, you're dead if you don't do this.

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00:56:35.000 Okay, Max, again, I'm going to pretty much have you unbridled in the next thing.

00:56:39.000 I'm just so wound up today.

00:56:40.000 Briefly, as we go to break in about three minutes.

00:56:43.000 Yeah, are you saying your sources told you that the head of Goldman, that the head of J.P.

00:56:49.000 Morgan told the former head of Goldman Sachs, the head of MF Global Corzine, you give us our money, pal, or you're gonna sleep with the fishes?

00:56:57.000 Yeah, I mean, look, the timing of it during the testimony is the CME head, as you pointed out, was talking about the fact that they were quite aware of this for three weeks.

00:57:10.000 And the point kept being made that this is not an accounting error.

00:57:14.000 We've searched all the accounts.

00:57:15.000 It was a blatant disregard of the law where they came in and they took customer money. 1.00

00:57:20.000 Yeah, they did this because Diamond put a gun to us head and said, either you do this and make us whole, or we're gonna blow your fuckin' head off! 0.99

00:57:27.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on, Max, we can't talk like that. 0.99

00:57:30.000 This is actual broadcast radio, so we had to bleep that out, okay?

00:57:34.000 All right, but you're saying sources told you this?

00:57:38.000 How can Jamie Dimon do that?

00:57:39.000 Because back in the year 2000, during the passage of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, it made all derivatives trading what no longer was considered gambling.

00:57:51.000 Up until then, they were considered gambling, but under that new legislation, they were no longer gambling, and it gave precedence to all derivative contracts above all securities, all cash, all banks.

00:58:00.000 Whoever's wielding derivatives has the law on their side.

00:58:05.000 So Diamond says, we are the derivatives wielder.

00:58:08.000 Therefore, we are the law. 1.00

00:58:10.000 You, you, you can just give us our money or we're gonna kill you! 1.00

00:58:13.000 Okay? 0.99

00:58:13.000 Why is it different than the 1930s and the gangland and the gang wars? 0.99

00:58:17.000 It's no different!

00:58:18.000 These banks are now just out-of-control gangsters.

00:58:21.000 And they're putting contracts on each other.

00:58:23.000 Look at the whistleblower Andrew McGuire in London.

00:58:26.000 He told that H.A.P.

00:58:27.000 Morgan was manipulating the silver market.

00:58:28.000 He walked out of that hearing and got hit by a car!

00:58:30.000 Well, look at how they killed, uh, look at how they killed, look at how they killed Madoff's son a week after that newspaper interview got published.

00:58:39.000 You saw that?

00:58:39.000 I mean, they hung him.

00:58:40.000 I know, it's incredible.

00:58:42.000 Stay there.

00:58:43.000 Back in 60 seconds with the second hour with Max Keiser.

00:58:46.000 We're going to play this congressional testimony.

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01:00:34.000 All right, it's hour number two.

01:00:35.000 Max Keiser is our guest.

01:00:37.000 We're going to take some calls specifically for Max on the economy, on MF Global, and the huge aftershocks of that.

01:00:43.000 The toll-free number to join us is 800-259-9231.

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01:00:50.000 But we'll continue with him for a while before we get to those calls.

01:00:53.000 And up in the next segment, I want to play a clip of what he's talking about.

01:00:57.000 Specifically, then, you've been told by sources, I want to nail this down, that the word was given, you better do this.

01:01:07.000 Yes, Alex, but why should we be surprised?

01:01:11.000 This is no big thing.

01:01:13.000 This is the world we live in.

01:01:14.000 Bankers are now terrorists. 0.96

01:01:16.000 They're financial terrorists. 1.00

01:01:18.000 They threaten to kill you unless you give them money. 0.97

01:01:21.000 And they'll take it right out of your individual account.

01:01:24.000 The brokerage account statement that you get every month is worthless.

01:01:27.000 The bank account statement you get every month is just symbols on a piece of paper.

01:01:31.000 It doesn't mean you own any of that stuff.

01:01:33.000 The way the law works now, the second you put cash in a bank, the bank owns that cash.

01:01:39.000 And they can take it for whatever reason they want to.

01:01:41.000 Anyone who has money in a bank or a brokerage firm, it's not your money anymore.

01:01:45.000 And I hope you don't ever want to believe that you'll ever have use of that money.

01:01:49.000 This is what we're learning from the MF Global scandal.

01:01:51.000 And let me point something very, very important here.

01:01:54.000 The HSBC, the bank in London, has now got a lawsuit against MF Global.

01:02:00.000 As it relates to the GLD, which is the gold that trades on the New York Stock Exchange.

01:02:07.000 They have something like 3,000 tons.

01:02:09.000 It's a huge percentage of gold.

01:02:11.000 As it becomes clear now that anyone who owns GLD does not own anything but a piece of worthless piece of paper, people are now liquidating GLD and SLV, which is JP Morgan's custodian silver vehicle.

01:02:25.000 That's why gold and silver are down today.

01:02:27.000 It's a direct result of MF Global.

01:02:29.000 Here's something else.

01:02:31.000 The money stolen from MF Global in the commodity accounts relating to silver, if you do the accounting, is the exact same to the gram amount that JP Morgan just reported on their books that they increased the amount of silver.

01:02:43.000 They are short silver, as reported on your show many times.

01:02:46.000 They need silver desperately or they'll go out of business.

01:02:49.000 The Comex, again, risk of going out of business.

01:02:52.000 They needed that money, that silver.

01:02:54.000 They took it directly out of customer accounts.

01:02:56.000 Those customers that don't have the silver in their accounts, it's now in JP Morgan's books.

01:02:59.000 They stole it! 0.83

01:03:00.000 Because they don't want to have to suffer any consequences for being a licentious, litigiously, larcenistic, assassination crew of gangsters who want all your frickin' money! 0.78

01:03:12.000 So, this is what we're dealing with! 0.88

01:03:15.000 And it is a type of insanity. 0.97

01:03:17.000 I mean, they run the world, they run the major militaries, they have nuclear weapons, and they say it all the time, we have nuclear weapons, we can do whatever we want, and they're crazy And they're hiring cops and enforcers and bureaucrats that are crazy. 0.91

01:03:30.000 And I run into bureaucrats and cops and people, not all of them, but a lot of them, and they're like crazy now.

01:03:35.000 They're just so confident.

01:03:37.000 And of course, we know pride goes before a fall.

01:03:41.000 And they're like Caligula. 0.65

01:03:42.000 They're delusional.

01:03:43.000 I think they're going to start World War III, Max.

01:03:45.000 I think they're going to destroy all of us. 1.00

01:03:46.000 I mean, these people are nuts. 1.00

01:03:49.000 Well, they're just greedy. 1.00

01:03:50.000 That's all there is to it.

01:03:51.000 I mean, Diamond and Lloyd Langfine and Wall Street and the City of London, they're just greedy.

01:03:56.000 I think what happened going back to 9-11, it scared the heck out of them.

01:04:00.000 And from 9-11 going forward, their mission has been to take as much as they possibly can.

01:04:05.000 Because they fear that, you know, the barbarians are at the gate, and they've just used an opportunity, they've changed the laws, to steal all the physical assets.

01:04:15.000 All the gold and all the silver and all the real assets.

01:04:17.000 They've swapped it with tons of debt.

01:04:20.000 That debt, of course, can't be paid, and the people are revolting all over the world.

01:04:24.000 Time Magazine had the protester as the person of the year.

01:04:26.000 That's the global insurrection against banker occupation.

01:04:29.000 That's the direct result of bankers changing laws to make it easier for them to steal.

01:04:32.000 But here's the deal!

01:04:33.000 Well, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, they already ran the world.

01:04:39.000 So why just toxify everything so they can grab all the little crumbs and then turn everyone against them?

01:04:46.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:04:47.000 They're megalomaniacs.

01:04:48.000 There's no way.

01:04:49.000 Look, I don't know how many rich people you know, Alex, but the rich people tend to want to be richer.

01:04:55.000 You know, the greatest wealth disparity is not between the 1% and the bottom 99%.

01:05:02.000 It's between the top one-tenth of one percent.

01:05:05.000 Yeah, that's key.

01:05:06.000 Let's explain the ultra-rich versus the one percent when we get back.

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01:08:59.000 That was a big poster, blow up of the photo.

01:09:01.000 And it's of the barbed wire there in East Berlin, and it's a woman, and she's gone through, and the toddler has gotten caught in the barbed wire, and he lifts up the barbed wire, gets the child and hands it over, and there's several photos, but I have one of them.

01:09:19.000 You can find them online, I forget the name of it.

01:09:21.000 And boy, that soldier that helped that baby get to its parents, never seen again.

01:09:28.000 And this is the decision coming here in America. 0.67

01:09:30.000 You're always going to be given a good cover story, a good reason to hate the American people and go along with this.

01:09:36.000 For totally ruthless banks.

01:09:38.000 I mean, Corzine is the main financial advisor to Obama.

01:09:44.000 Corzine is one of their main architects.

01:09:46.000 Corzine's a former New Jersey governor, former head of Goldman Sachs.

01:09:49.000 He sets up MF Global.

01:09:51.000 He goes out and makes 40 to 1 bets.

01:09:55.000 The media said 38 to 1 bet.

01:09:58.000 Kaiser's saying 40 to 1 bet.

01:09:59.000 The point is, it's JP Morgan money, and then it was reported the money went there, and then the media is so controlled they won't talk about it.

01:10:08.000 Now, Max Kaiser's our guest.

01:10:10.000 Before he went to break, he was raising the point of Occupy Wall Street's talking about the 1%.

01:10:14.000 It's one-tenth of 1% that actually controls everything.

01:10:18.000 And they're the ultra-rich waging war against the free market.

01:10:21.000 They are monopoly capitalists.

01:10:24.000 Crony capitalists.

01:10:25.000 In their own words.

01:10:26.000 The founder of the Rockefeller dynasty said, competition is a sin.

01:10:29.000 So Max, briefly speak to that.

01:10:31.000 But I need to get to the main reason you're here.

01:10:34.000 CME chief alleges Corzine aware of transfers.

01:10:38.000 And we have the testimony here.

01:10:39.000 He had the prepared testimony on the CME Group website.

01:10:44.000 As he's done in other testimony, suddenly he broke with it and said, I was told in the meetings that Corzine knew and gave the orders to take the money.

01:10:51.000 Now again, he's saying, I'm not going to go down with the ship for you.

01:10:55.000 And that gives us faith, folks, because if Corzine can go to jail, like Madoff, Then Jamie Dimon can go to jail.

01:11:02.000 Because, folks, they all need to be in jail.

01:11:04.000 It could all end.

01:11:04.000 You know, the infrastructure of tyranny is there now.

01:11:07.000 So the problem is, if you get rid of these guys, more will get in there.

01:11:09.000 But if you send enough of them to prison, and then expose it like a bad nightmare, it can end.

01:11:15.000 Because then the documents will come out, whistleblowers won't be as scared.

01:11:18.000 There's huge persecution of whistleblowers going on right now on record.

01:11:21.000 Media people being persecuted.

01:11:23.000 It can stop.

01:11:24.000 But they think they're going to bring in a North Com tyranny and get away with it all. 1.00

01:11:28.000 Like they're doing in Europe! 0.99

01:11:30.000 I mean, they're announcing banks took over through fraud, Goldman Sachs rules Europe.

01:11:34.000 That's headlines.

01:11:36.000 They're celebrating.

01:11:38.000 But really, they're little scared crooks like Corzine, who looks scared in those testimonies, because he's up there bald-faced lying, folks.

01:11:44.000 Of course he knows where the money went.

01:11:46.000 The government knows where the transfers went.

01:11:48.000 This claim, Max Keiser, speak to that and then the...

01:11:52.000 One-tenth of one percent instead of the one percent.

01:11:54.000 And then I want to get into the big enchilada.

01:11:56.000 Why do you think he is jumping ship and not playing patty cake?

01:12:00.000 And will his kids start being found dead?

01:12:02.000 Or will he die at a car wreck?

01:12:04.000 Well, he's being, essentially, he's a whistleblower.

01:12:08.000 And we know that whistleblowers are targeted.

01:12:11.000 Again, you know, the Andrew McGuire case from just a few months ago, testifying about J.P.

01:12:16.000 Morgan's manipulation of the silver market in London.

01:12:18.000 And he was hit by a car.

01:12:20.000 So, this type of thing.

01:12:21.000 So he's acting as a whistleblower.

01:12:23.000 And he said it came out of nowhere.

01:12:25.000 It was after him.

01:12:27.000 Well, he had a crisis of conscience and suddenly spilled the beans.

01:12:31.000 So this happens sometimes.

01:12:32.000 Human beings occasionally act, have a crisis of conscience.

01:12:36.000 Occasionally a human being will respond to a moral good.

01:12:40.000 Occasionally that happens.

01:12:41.000 And this is what happened.

01:12:42.000 Suddenly he became human.

01:12:44.000 And this is something that the MF Global or JPMorgan hadn't counted on, that somebody would act like a human being.

01:12:50.000 That was a human being risk.

01:12:51.000 They weren't hedged against humanity.

01:12:53.000 They're not hedged against people acting like humans.

01:12:56.000 They only have robots down on the floor of the exchange who do their bidding by conducting algorithmic trading that is all programmed to steal money every single day.

01:13:04.000 But getting to this 1% issue, you know, the 1% versus the 99%.

01:13:09.000 To make it into the 1% in America, you need a million dollars in cash.

01:13:13.000 Okay.

01:13:14.000 Now the fact is there are millions of people in America with a million dollars in cash.

01:13:19.000 It's no big thing.

01:13:20.000 And they're the ones that buy cars and go to your restaurant and buy houses and get rock walls built at their houses.

01:13:25.000 They're the people that run the economy.

01:13:28.000 They're just middle management types.

01:13:30.000 To get to, let's say, $10 billion, which is a nice chunk of money, you're making $27 million every single day for 365 days.

01:13:41.000 And that's what somebody in the top one-tenth of one percent makes.

01:13:44.000 They make $27 million every single day.

01:13:47.000 A hedge fund manager pays themselves $5-10 billion.

01:13:51.000 I noticed in their divorce cases and stuff it comes out that they're obsessed with beating each other and it's all like a race car race as they destroy the world.

01:14:00.000 I guess that plays to that suicide banker point you make.

01:14:03.000 Well, this is, you know, if you go to the Belhaven Club in Greenwich, Connecticut, and you sit around with a bunch of billionaire hedge fund managers, you know, they're all basically just competing with each other, and they're willing to throw the country under the bus to do it.

01:14:17.000 They think it's oh so amusing.

01:14:19.000 And having, you know, been with these folks, myself working on Wall Street as a stockbroker for many years, that's the mentality.

01:14:26.000 So when you say, why do they think they need to make Go from $100 million to $200 million, or from $1 billion to $5 billion.

01:14:32.000 Because that's who they're competing with.

01:14:34.000 And they're willing to break any law, write new laws, or kill somebody.

01:14:38.000 It's no big deal to kill somebody.

01:14:40.000 That's just par for the course.

01:14:42.000 And here's the other big issue.

01:14:44.000 They've got the government on the payroll, and so now as crimes are committed, everybody in the system's engaged in some kind of crime, so they can't blow the whistle on an even bigger crime, because then that will bring them down, and so there's a natural progression where the crimes get wilder and wilder and crazier and crazier, like DuPont running around raping people and driving tanks with machine guns in the local town screaming, I'm God.

01:15:11.000 I mean, and the cops are like, that's just what he does!

01:15:14.000 Well, you say the government's on the payroll.

01:15:17.000 Payroll is stretching it a little bit because, I mean, for $200,000 you can get Congress to write a new law for a bank on Wall Street.

01:15:25.000 That's hardly pay.

01:15:26.000 I mean, that's a stipend.

01:15:28.000 It's not even chicken feed.

01:15:29.000 That's the thing.

01:15:30.000 They sell out for not even one one-millionth.

01:15:34.000 Yeah, I'd love to see Congress hold out and try to, at least for half of, you know, three or four million dollars before they break the law for a bank.

01:15:43.000 I mean, maybe that would help solve the deficit in America.

01:15:46.000 But they'll do it for $200,000.

01:15:47.000 I mean, I, almost anybody can buy a congressman.

01:15:51.000 They're so cheap. 1.00

01:15:51.000 They're like $2 whores. 1.00

01:15:53.000 Almost anyone can get a congressman to change a law for you. 0.99

01:15:56.000 And if it takes $100,000 or $200,000, and if you're a bank on Wall Street, it's really, You're right, they are the equivalent of disheveled crack whores with cigarette burns all over them that are less than a quarter. 1.00

01:16:09.000 I mean, I've seen poor crack whores that look like Dawn of the Dead zombies. 1.00

01:16:15.000 The bonuses on Wall Street last year were $140 billion. 0.97

01:16:18.000 So when you read about folks like, oh, there's a party of five or six brokers in Paris celebrating a bonus, and by the way, the check for the meal, for dinner, was $130,000.

01:16:29.000 I mean, that's nothing to them!

01:16:33.000 That's absolutely nothing!

01:16:35.000 That's no money to them, because they're getting paid billions!

01:16:39.000 And where does that money come from?

01:16:40.000 It comes from society that has to underwrite and subsidize these people through austerity!

01:16:45.000 And that's why you have a global insurrection against banker occupation, because the globe doesn't want to subsidize, pay the welfare to Jamie Dimon anymore.

01:16:52.000 They don't want to pay Lloyd Blankfein's welfare anymore.

01:16:55.000 They want to just work and make money for themselves.

01:16:57.000 They don't want to tithe their money to the Lord Blankfein, like it's some kind of medieval Futile serfdom?

01:17:05.000 No, they want to work and live like a real person!

01:17:09.000 Now again, here is Terry Duffy, who was saying none of this was true just two weeks ago.

01:17:15.000 Now he changed his testimony and prepared on-the-record text that said one thing, and then he changed three lines.

01:17:22.000 And it says, after receiving this information, this is the change part, CME remained at MF Global, while MF Global Attempted to identify funds that could be transferred, so CMT's actually in there catching them, into segregation to reduce or eliminate the discrepancy.

01:17:38.000 A CME auditor also participated in a phone call with senior MF Global employees wherein, and now those same employees have been caught lying, saying we didn't, we met but didn't talk about anything.

01:17:48.000 One employee, at two in the morning, we just met, didn't do anything at the office.

01:17:51.000 One employee indicated that Mr. Corzine knew about the loans that had been made from the customer segregated accounts.

01:17:57.000 Of course he knew.

01:17:59.000 Now they're saying no one knows.

01:18:00.000 The government knows where the money went.

01:18:01.000 It was JP Morgan.

01:18:02.000 CME Group has provided this information, the names of the individuals, to the DOJ.

01:18:09.000 Good luck!

01:18:10.000 The DOJ's run by, from our research, the guy that ran the OKC bombing.

01:18:14.000 These are hardcore killers, folks!

01:18:16.000 Man, I can't believe I have to challenge killers like this, but I have to do it. 0.99

01:18:20.000 Somebody's got to not be a coward.

01:18:22.000 Continuing, individuals to the DOG and the CFTC who are investigating these matters.

01:18:27.000 Boom! 0.99

01:18:28.000 Well, again, Max, we're going to go to break, come back, play the clip, keep you longer because I want to go to calls.

01:18:32.000 But I mean, this is, it's just, it's right there.

01:18:35.000 The Justice Department knows.

01:18:37.000 They're telling the public they don't know where a billion, two hundred million at least went.

01:18:41.000 The government knows where a $10,000 check goes.

01:18:44.000 They know where every dime went.

01:18:46.000 They knew a month ago it was JP Morgan.

01:18:48.000 But they're God, so no one can talk about them.

01:18:54.000 Yeah.

01:18:55.000 Right on, brother.

01:18:56.000 I mean, how far does it go?

01:18:58.000 How far will they go, Max?

01:19:02.000 The question is how far will we go?

01:19:03.000 You know, Vigilante Justice and the Global Insurrection is on the move.

01:19:07.000 It's on the cover of Time Magazine.

01:19:09.000 Now we gotta get some scouts, baby, because we're on the march.

01:19:13.000 You know, there's no government, there's no law, but it doesn't mean we have to play by their rules.

01:19:18.000 We know who the criminals are.

01:19:19.000 We know that they're stealing our money.

01:19:21.000 Time for Vigilante Justice!

01:19:24.000 Now you see Max, the globalist, well then why are Soros and others knee deep in the Occupy?

01:19:29.000 I'm not saying Occupy is bad, but they're trying to control it.

01:19:32.000 They want to brand the revolution towards collectivism to suck more of the middle class's money and give it to the offshore banks.

01:19:38.000 So how do you navigate that morass?

01:19:41.000 Well, Soros and the Occupy movement is just one facet of this global insurrection against bankrupt occupations.

01:19:47.000 I agree, I agree.

01:19:48.000 And the media is using it to brand everything as some... Okay, stay there.

01:19:52.000 I gotta play this video clip of what we just read.

01:19:54.000 We come back and then we'll keep you even longer if you can do it.

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01:24:08.000 We all need no education.

01:24:14.000 You know, I watch all the little Info Babes up on TV reading off teleprompters lying to people.

01:24:19.000 I see the general public starting to wake up.

01:24:22.000 And Congress has an incredibly low approval rating, 9%.

01:24:25.000 But that's not enough.

01:24:27.000 A lot of people out there think they're awake, but then they still laugh at things I talk about.

01:24:32.000 That's because they have no idea.

01:24:34.000 How bad things are.

01:24:36.000 And they haven't studied history.

01:24:37.000 They've lived in the lap of luxury and freedom.

01:24:40.000 And like termites, the criminals have been beavering away under us.

01:24:45.000 And now, people's feet are starting to go to the floor.

01:24:48.000 You lean on a wall, it falls in.

01:24:50.000 People are starting to realize, man, there's something going on here.

01:24:54.000 And the recklessness of these elites is frightening, because it shows megalomania has set in.

01:25:01.000 I mean, if I was some evil, wicked kingpin, I'd try to have things conservative, focused, incremental.

01:25:08.000 They don't do that.

01:25:08.000 They're just wild now, which shows the megalomania has set in.

01:25:13.000 What's changed with the head of the CME group?

01:25:15.000 That's the biggest commodities group out there.

01:25:17.000 Trillions of dollars.

01:25:19.000 Terry Duffy.

01:25:20.000 A few weeks ago he was, you know, acting like we were crazy to say this stuff, even attacking Gerald Solente by name.

01:25:26.000 Now he's come out and said no.

01:25:29.000 Corzine did know, and our people were there, and I've given the names to the Justice Department.

01:25:34.000 And see, he went off script there in that whole staged meeting, where none of them asked real questions.

01:25:38.000 They all know that!

01:25:40.000 They're all allowed to insider trade and say they're above the law in Congress.

01:25:44.000 Let's go to the clip of it and get Max Keiser's take on it.

01:25:47.000 Come back in a long segment and take calls.

01:25:49.000 Here's that clip of the testimony yesterday.

01:25:51.000 And this isn't just my interpretation.

01:25:53.000 Here's Financial Times of London, the real globalist publication.

01:25:56.000 CME chief alleges Corzine aware of transfers.

01:26:00.000 That's what's sending gold and silver down.

01:26:01.000 Because it's destroying the commodity end of it.

01:26:04.000 But we're going to break that down in a moment.

01:26:06.000 Here's the clip.

01:26:08.000 CFTC and CME staff and auditors returned to the firm on Sunday, October 30th, and were informed by MF Global employees that this discrepancy was caused by, quote, an accounting error.

01:26:20.000 Our auditors worked with the CFTC, devoted the rest of the day and night, Sunday, to find the so-called accounting error.

01:26:27.000 No such error was ever found.

01:26:29.000 Instead, at about 2 a.m.

01:26:31.000 Monday morning, October 31st, MF Global informed both the CFTC and CME at approximately the same time that the shortfall was real and that customer segregated funds have been transferred out of segregation to the firm's broker-dealer accounts.

01:26:47.000 After receiving this information, CME remained at MF Global while MF Global attempted to identify funds that could be transferred into segregation to reduce or eliminate the discrepancy.

01:27:01.000 A CME auditor also participated in a phone call with senior MF Global employees wherein one employee indicated that Mr. Corzine knew about the loans that had been made from the customer segregated accounts.

01:27:18.000 CME Group has provided this information.

01:27:23.000 And then, um, hit pause.

01:27:26.000 Back it up.

01:27:27.000 Our video, for whatever reason, we're going to get new computers.

01:27:29.000 It's, say, we're not editing and it just is buffering.

01:27:32.000 Back it up a few seconds and we'll try to play it there.

01:27:34.000 I don't know why the computers do this, but go ahead and play it again.

01:27:40.000 CME Group has provided this information.

01:27:46.000 ...these individuals to the Department of Justice and the CFTC for investigating these matters.

01:27:52.000 Oh, that must be on the C-SPAN video itself.

01:27:55.000 Okay, so there you go, Max Keiser, and that's now on the record, and they just wanted to move on from that, didn't they?

01:28:05.000 Well, he knew that when he said that, it would open a can of worms.

01:28:12.000 It gives you a tick-tock, you know, the timeline of when Corzine got the call from Jamie over there at J.P.

01:28:20.000 Morgan and threatened to kill him. 0.97

01:28:22.000 Because after a few weeks when the money wasn't showing up, he said, well, take it out of the customer money, or we'll kill you. 0.92

01:28:30.000 So that's the timeline, and it's America, and that's the way business is done now. 0.56

01:28:34.000 We've got killers who run big Wall Street firms, but that shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. 1.00

01:28:38.000 And if you have any money in a brokerage firm or bank, you're an idiot, because it's now gone. 1.00

01:28:43.000 There's no rule. 1.00

01:28:44.000 Now, we'll see where this goes.

01:28:46.000 I mean, obviously, what will happen to this case is, in order To absolve the people, the crooks involved, they're going to need to pass some new laws very quickly.

01:28:56.000 Obama, in reaction to this, and Holder, in reaction to this blatant law breaking, will pass new laws.

01:29:03.000 That's been the history on Wall Street.

01:29:05.000 If you get caught breaking the law, they pass new laws.

01:29:07.000 Like, Goldman Sachs passed a new law when they were caught breaking an SEC regulation about offering stock of Facebook to insiders beyond what's allowed by SEC law.

01:29:17.000 So what do they do?

01:29:18.000 They're getting Congress to pass a new law.

01:29:20.000 When, uh, you just see examples of this every day.

01:29:23.000 So, what I... Yeah, instead of it, we'll stay there, stay there, we've got to go to break, but instead of things getting better and enforcing the law, they just change it.

01:29:30.000 Kind of like when Bush got caught spying without warrants on citizens, they changed the law, or they get caught torturing, they try to... ...or for telecom, telecom spying for years for Verizon and other telecom companies that just gave them immunity.

01:29:43.000 Okay, so they just give them immunity, or they'll change the law, and they'll say it's for national security.

01:29:48.000 And then we'll move on.

01:29:49.000 And they'll say, I don't want to focus on the past.

01:29:51.000 Well, stay there then.

01:29:52.000 But stay there.

01:29:53.000 Because as you said, they've got the bank accounts all tied to derivatives.

01:29:57.000 It's all gone.

01:30:00.000 We're on the march.

01:30:01.000 The empire's on the run.

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01:37:09.000 Max, the seismic shift, and I'm going to put it on screen here for presentplanet.tv viewers.

01:37:13.000 London Telegraph, last Thursday.

01:37:15.000 Portugal raids pension funds to meet deficit targets, admits that it's private pension funds.

01:37:22.000 They can always argue, oh, government pension funds is welfare.

01:37:26.000 Not have you been paying into it.

01:37:27.000 They're already rating those.

01:37:29.000 But the government's taken it and shaved, depending on which fund it was, 10 to 20 or even more percentage off.

01:37:35.000 And they say the government now holds your fund in trust and gave it to Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, and some of the other European banks.

01:37:43.000 But obviously I was going to ask you where is it going?

01:37:45.000 The fact that they don't care that the public's now learning that bank accounts, brokerage accounts, 401Ks, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, these indexes, nothing's there.

01:37:57.000 There's hundreds of times derivatives fraud to what real assets are.

01:38:02.000 As you and other economists we've had on have all basically admitted on the same spectrum.

01:38:07.000 100 times, 200 times, people debate it.

01:38:09.000 The point is, they've signed us onto their fraud, the military's standing by to wage war with us, and the question is, will they stand down?

01:38:16.000 And so, what comes next?

01:38:18.000 I guess they just destroy confidence, they don't care, they take it all over and the military stands by?

01:38:23.000 I mean, is that what's going to happen, Max Keiser?

01:38:27.000 Look, they just rack up huge debts, speculating, and then when it comes time to pay the debt, they raid a pension account, or they raid your commodities account, or they'll steal your mutual funds, or your bank account.

01:38:40.000 So there's nobody trying to stop them from racking up these debts.

01:38:43.000 In Europe, Economy in the banking system is collapsing, but the speculators are still racking up more debts.

01:38:49.000 If you notice, the Bank of International Settlements came out with a report just a couple of weeks ago that indicated that the total amount of derivatives in the global banking system has reached a new all-time high of $720 trillion.

01:39:01.000 $1,120 trillion.

01:39:02.000 Remember after the crisis of 2008, that number decreased by $50 or $60 trillion for temporarily.

01:39:10.000 But now, since nobody did anything to make any laws or to put anybody in jail, and in fact all the speculators thought that they were being rewarded for doing such a great job endangering the global economy, they have increased the total number of benefits.

01:39:24.000 Thank you.

01:39:25.000 That's $200 trillion.

01:39:27.000 So anytime that they need to pay any interest, again, it's small because interest rates are near zero, but they do, they still have interest on $700 trillion.

01:39:36.000 It's still, even if it's .001%, it still is a meaningful amount on that amount.

01:39:41.000 So they will raid your pension account.

01:39:43.000 They'll steal from your brokerage account.

01:39:45.000 And you know, Jamie Dimon over there, JP Morgan, That bank alone has $90 trillion in derivatives on their books.

01:39:52.000 That's bigger than the total GDP of the entire world.

01:39:57.000 The entire global GDP is, let's call it, $60 trillion.

01:40:01.000 JP Morgan has derivatives on their books for $90 trillion.

01:40:05.000 And they say, well, it's not risk really because it's perfectly hedged.

01:40:08.000 All the counterparties are completely safe.

01:40:11.000 Yeah, look what just happened with MFGlobal.

01:40:13.000 There's no counterparty accountability there.

01:40:15.000 Look what happened during 2008.

01:40:17.000 There were no counterparties accountability there.

01:40:19.000 That's gross risk.

01:40:20.000 It's not net risk.

01:40:21.000 That's 90 trillion in risk.

01:40:23.000 They're not hedged at all.

01:40:25.000 And how can you hedge, you know, 700 trillion in bets on a company that's... But here's the question.

01:40:29.000 Here's the question.

01:40:31.000 As the firemen, the police, the bureaucrats lose their future, will they, the police, still not care that they've been robbed just because they can still crack somebody on the head?

01:40:40.000 I mean, that's really what's valuable.

01:40:42.000 Or is there, I mean, is there any end from your research to how bad this is going to get?

01:40:47.000 Because certainly they have a escape route, and that's more power, world government, total tyranny in their own words.

01:40:53.000 But, I mean, they've got a problem, as Zbigniew Brzezinski said last year, To the Council on Foreign Relations in Canada, their branch, he said, look, the world is awake and staring at the elite, not at our puppets anymore.

01:41:07.000 We're in deep trouble.

01:41:09.000 So even their own technocrats are warning them that they're not going to get away with this, even if they start World War III.

01:41:15.000 That isn't going to make people circle the wagons around the little bankers.

01:41:19.000 Well, what they count on is the response you see in almost all incidents of rape.

01:41:27.000 Rape victims tend to blame themselves. 1.00

01:41:30.000 And this is what the elites count on.

01:41:31.000 They know that if they steal all your money, you're going to blame yourself.

01:41:35.000 I know working on Wall Street myself, that was the attitude.

01:41:38.000 When I call up a customer and I tell them, hey, I just lost all of your money, typically the customer will blame themselves.

01:41:44.000 And this is what people count on.

01:41:46.000 I know when I was working on Wall Street, this is what we found.

01:41:49.000 We try to find customers that were gambler-holics.

01:41:52.000 We try to find emotionally weak customers that will blame themselves for the money you steal from them.

01:41:58.000 And this is what they do, but on a much bigger scale.

01:42:00.000 So a pension account that's worth a few hundred million, if they steal two or three million or four billion, the pension manager will feel bad about themselves, and they'll put their tail between their legs, and they'll scurry home to wherever they're living, a little hovel, and they'll cry to themselves to sleep all night.

01:42:17.000 But that's what you count on, because nobody's going to... Oh, I know.

01:42:20.000 I've seen when the government takes people's children for no reason, they'll still somehow blame themselves, and I...

01:42:27.000 I see this psychology all the time.

01:42:30.000 I mean, it really is the Stockholm Syndrome.

01:42:33.000 Well, it's just, you know, the thing is, you learn on Wall Street, when I was on Wall Street, what I was told was a couple of things.

01:42:41.000 First of all, it doesn't matter if you break the law because we have lawyers, you know.

01:42:45.000 And second of all, unless you have at least one case pending against you from a disgruntled customer, you're not showing enough initiative.

01:42:54.000 I mean, that's the law of the Wall Street.

01:42:56.000 And the way you're paid on Wall Street is not on the money you make for customers, but on the churn factor.

01:43:01.000 How much of the customer's money did you turn into the firm's money?

01:43:06.000 And you do that by excessive trading.

01:43:08.000 And typically, brokers will churn customers and they'll turn it over and turn 10 or 20% of the customer's account.

01:43:16.000 And the most criminal rise to the top And they think the police state's going to protect them from the crimes they've committed.

01:43:25.000 Let's go to your phone calls.

01:43:26.000 If you just joined us, the head of the CME group, this is big, big news, Terrence Duffy, has gone public and said that he was told, and he told the Justice Department this, in meetings with MF Global, Top Brass, that they were ordered by Corzine to steal the private bank accounts.

01:43:46.000 This is bank robbery digital.

01:43:47.000 And you're seeing a giant attempt by MF Global and by J.P. Morgan, reportedly, who got most of the money, to just have it in plain view and see if you'll buy it and sell it.

01:43:59.000 And the Justice Department and the rest of these terrorists who ship guns to Mexico and cocaine into the country and get caught, they don't get in trouble either.

01:44:07.000 Just to see if they can get away with this.

01:44:09.000 And I want to go to calls here, Max, but that point you raised about the gold, we'll have to cover that after we get to some calls because that's destroying the commodities market in gold and silver.

01:44:20.000 But the last time they did that six months ago or five months ago, it only came back up after.

01:44:23.000 So we'll get your view on the future of that here.

01:44:25.000 But right now, let's go ahead and talk to George in Connecticut.

01:44:28.000 You're on the air with Max Keiser.

01:44:29.000 Thanks for holding.

01:44:31.000 I have a question for Max, but I also have some hope for you.

01:44:35.000 I'll give you the hope quick.

01:44:37.000 I was listening to a very left-wing New York station, and it was an Occupy Wall Street, and they're talking about Ron Paul, and lots of people are giving upbeat things, so there's the hope that there may be a joining at some point.

01:44:51.000 The question for Max, though, is that I'm wondering, every time they drive down Gold and Silver, on the GLD and SLD.

01:45:00.000 Maybe we can use that as an opportunity to buy the real stuff, say, look, they're pushing it down, switch from GLD and SLD, buy the real stuff.

01:45:08.000 Then it makes less in the market.

01:45:11.000 And also, then we secure a lower price at the same time for that product.

01:45:15.000 What do you think, Max?

01:45:18.000 Yeah, that's what's happening.

01:45:19.000 That's what people are doing.

01:45:20.000 They're getting out of the paper gold, which includes GLD and SLV, and they're buying the physical gold and silver.

01:45:28.000 And that's what's happening.

01:45:29.000 And the demand for gold and silver is still extraordinarily high all around the world.

01:45:33.000 So yeah, they're shifting out of the paper.

01:45:34.000 They're moving into the physical.

01:45:36.000 And at some point, the physical will start to be traded at quotes.

01:45:40.000 They'll be priced completely separate from the paper.

01:45:44.000 So you'll have two markets.

01:45:45.000 You'll have the physical market.

01:45:46.000 We'll be trading at one price.

01:45:48.000 And then they'll have the paper market trading at a completely different price.

01:45:50.000 And so are you looking for a boomerang?

01:45:52.000 Because it'll go down for a while as the paper market collapses, which is happening because no one trusts MF Global.

01:45:58.000 I guess that's why the head of it, The head of the CME Group is having to come out and cry uncle because they do see it literally across commodities markets are going down because of loss of confidence.

01:46:11.000 Then I guess as everybody then rushes into physical, could that push it then up a lot?

01:46:17.000 Well, yeah, also strong hands.

01:46:19.000 These are physical cash buyers.

01:46:22.000 The world is moving in a very stealthy fashion to a gold standard.

01:46:26.000 You know, gold vending machines are now all over the world.

01:46:29.000 People own gold and we're becoming a gold-oriented society.

01:46:34.000 The Central Bank's trying to avoid that from happening by increasing margin accounts, by screwing around GLD.

01:46:41.000 They're bringing in a stealth gold standard anyway.

01:46:43.000 So they're hoisted by their own petard.

01:46:45.000 They don't understand that this is not stopping people from buying gold and silver.

01:46:51.000 And my target of $5,000 on gold is the same as it was seven years ago, eight years ago.

01:46:55.000 I haven't changed that target.

01:46:57.000 Sure, we've seen him drive it down many times, and it's the same game.

01:47:01.000 George, thank you for the call.

01:47:02.000 Good points.

01:47:03.000 Good question.

01:47:04.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Chuck in Virginia.

01:47:06.000 You're on the air, Chuck.

01:47:08.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:47:09.000 Thank you, Max.

01:47:10.000 My question is, using Max's analogy earlier, with JP Morgan putting a gun to Corzine's head, when America leaves China hanging with the $2 trillion in debt, do you think China will put a gun to America's head by virtue of like a Chinese Red Dawn?

01:47:29.000 Well, I think that you already have incredible influence in American policy from China.

01:47:36.000 Certainly in the monetary policy and in the financial policies, China's got incredible influence.

01:47:42.000 And going forward, we see China lining themselves up with Iran and Russia more than the United States.

01:47:49.000 So that block of countries, Iran, China, Russia, are consolidating their relationships and doing lots of deals together.

01:47:57.000 And so the U.S., of course, is sticking with Britain and Israel. 0.75

01:48:02.000 I mean, that's going to be the loser going forward against China, Russia, Iran.

01:48:07.000 I mean, think about it.

01:48:09.000 They've got all the oil and gas.

01:48:10.000 They've got all the gold and silver.

01:48:13.000 They've got all the money.

01:48:14.000 So who are you going to make a bet?

01:48:15.000 China, Russia, Iran or America and Israel?

01:48:18.000 America and Israel and England run by the most larcenous con men undoubtedly the world has ever seen. 0.63

01:48:27.000 William K. Black agrees, others.

01:48:29.000 The greatest fraud ever and they're waging war against our own countries from Israel to the US are all occupied by basically military dictatorships with a little fake government.

01:48:39.000 out front and you're right Russia and China and others were heavily invested especially China they wanted to be part of the new world order they were offered and now they've been sold derivatives and crud so their president is threatening war with the U.S.

01:48:52.000 now in Reuters but it's not even on the nightly news I mean that shows you how crazy the world's gotten and that even the Communist Party of China is now freaked out about who's running the U.S.

01:49:04.000 because these bankers are so are so sure of themselves are so humorous drunk Then who knows what they'll do?

01:49:13.000 Well, I'm in that camp.

01:49:14.000 And they've got the resources.

01:49:16.000 They're in Africa securing resources, in the case of China, where the U.S.

01:49:20.000 is blowing money on weapons to try to secure energy resources.

01:49:24.000 It's a completely inefficient way to do that.

01:49:26.000 And the next world war is not going to be fought with tanks and rockets.

01:49:30.000 It's a currency war.

01:49:31.000 And it's going to be fought with derivatives.

01:49:33.000 And countries with actual resources behind these derivatives are going to do better than the U.S., which is just... And the U.K.

01:49:39.000 and Israel, they're just printing debt.

01:49:42.000 So it's going to be debt versus real resources, and I think real resources are going to prevail.

01:49:47.000 And by the way, that's why, and I've told people this for a decade or more, from the manuals, the drills, I've documented it, but now they're admitting they're lining up the U.S.

01:49:56.000 military after farmers and ranchers.

01:49:59.000 That's who they train to take on, and that's who they're now using predator drones on.

01:50:02.000 I mean, why are they so scared of farmers and ranchers, Max?

01:50:08.000 Well, I guess because they're afraid of anybody who's independent in any way.

01:50:14.000 Farmers and ranchers are independent because they have an independent source of income and they're not reliant on the government to that extent.

01:50:21.000 So that's obviously a threat to the central planners in Washington.

01:50:27.000 Wow, we're going to come back and I'm going to keep you until 5 after and we're going to let you go and for a whole hour into the next we're going to have a very interesting guest in studio with us.

01:50:36.000 Max Keiser is our guest.

01:50:37.000 We're going to break, but just briefly Max, when do you expect gold to go back up?

01:50:44.000 Well, you know, that's the timing on gold and silver is something that people should stop trying to time it.

01:50:53.000 And I've always said the best way is to give yourself a dollar cost averaging.

01:50:57.000 So every month you go in with the same amount of money.

01:51:00.000 So here this month, when it's being attacked, you go in with that same amount of money and you're going to end up buying more.

01:51:06.000 All right, we'll be right back.

01:51:07.000 Stay there, Max.

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01:54:37.000 Gunter Spenz is going to be joining us coming up at 8 after.

01:54:45.000 He was a colonel in the East German military and was part of the stand-down that basically led to the fall of Berlin Wall.

01:54:54.000 He's going to be in studio with us.

01:54:55.000 I appreciate him traveling from where he lives in Texas to Austin.

01:54:59.000 That's coming up.

01:55:00.000 We've got two segments left with Max Keiser, this short one, and one more short one to go to phone calls here.

01:55:06.000 uh... and uh...

01:55:08.000 let's go ahead and go to info uh... in maryland you're on the air info uh...

01:55:18.000 i thought it was that's either about the uh... or The fact that he was able, the fact that he had to lie because, you know, his family might be in danger and they have a gun to his head and stuff like that.

01:55:34.000 I mean, what could you absolutely do?

01:55:38.000 I appreciate your call.

01:55:40.000 We have to expose these criminals.

01:55:43.000 It's a moral issue and this is an educational thing.

01:55:46.000 It shows us that our government is criminal and out of control and illegitimate and that we need to fix it.

01:55:51.000 Max Keiser, your comment.

01:55:53.000 It's a replay of Enron.

01:55:55.000 Remember Enron?

01:55:56.000 Famously, we learned about the special purpose entity accounts.

01:55:59.000 Over 700 off balance sheet accounts that they used to fund their fraud.

01:56:03.000 Now we're learning about hypothecation and re-hypothecation.

01:56:06.000 It's essentially the same game.

01:56:07.000 After Enron, I think their chairman blew his head off.

01:56:10.000 You know, he killed himself, I believe.

01:56:13.000 Somebody else went to jail.

01:56:14.000 The stock went to zero.

01:56:16.000 Eighty billion dollars got wiped out.

01:56:17.000 The case of J.P.

01:56:19.000 Morgan?

01:56:19.000 I think we're going to see the same thing.

01:56:20.000 Chairman can blow his head off, stock goes to zero, someone's going to go to jail.

01:56:25.000 It's a replay.

01:56:27.000 But much bigger.

01:56:29.000 It's a $160 billion company.

01:56:31.000 Enron was $80 billion.

01:56:33.000 So on a pure stock play, it's twice as big.

01:56:35.000 But it's systemically glued into the system.

01:56:37.000 But yeah, but that's a side issue because it's the derivatives.

01:56:41.000 The Ponzi scheme has infected everything.

01:56:44.000 And so we're basically talking about the bullet that shot a hole in us instead of talking about the bullet hole.

01:56:49.000 Well, J.P.

01:56:50.000 Morgan, of course, their debts are not held on their balance sheets.

01:56:54.000 Their debts are held by the Fed.

01:56:56.000 So if Jamie Dimon and J.P.

01:56:58.000 Morgan blows up, so does the Fed.

01:57:00.000 A lot of people will cheer that.

01:57:02.000 Even Ron Paul will cheer that.

01:57:04.000 He'll say that's probably the greatest thing that could happen, is for J.P.

01:57:07.000 Morgan and the Fed to simply blow themselves up, which would be a nice end to a hundred-year run as a vicious financial crook in this country.

01:57:16.000 We're gonna go to Brighton, come back with three or four more calls, and then let Max Keiser go and bring in our next guest who's gonna be in studio.

01:57:21.000 But here's the headline.

01:57:22.000 Ron Paul outlines his campaign secret weapon on the radio show with us yesterday.

01:57:26.000 Steve Watson has an article on that.

01:57:28.000 He's now in a dead tie with Newt Gingrich.

01:57:31.000 And as people learn how dirty Gingrich is, he is falling like a rock.

01:57:35.000 Now, your view on Newt Gingrich.

01:57:38.000 You know, I'm in Europe, I've been here for 10 years now, I've lived in France for 14 years.

01:57:43.000 I don't follow regional, local, little American elections that closely.

01:57:48.000 I mean, Ron Paul's a great guy, I hope he does well, but other than that, it's a too small a country.

01:57:52.000 Yeah, the point is, is that look at who the Republicans put forward.

01:57:55.000 I mean, this is a top globalist minion.

01:57:58.000 This is a Mr. Selling Influence, Mr. Crooked.

01:58:03.000 He moves like a weather vane, depending on how the wind blows.

01:58:06.000 And that's who Ron Paul, the statesman, has to fight with.

01:58:10.000 I mean, it should be a no-brainer, Max.

01:58:14.000 Yeah, well, you're talking about voters in a country where there are very few brains. 0.99

01:58:18.000 So, I mean, they constantly vote for the deadbeats and charlatans.

01:58:23.000 So, you know, hopefully they'll maybe choose somebody that's capable this time, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

01:58:31.000 Well, one thing's for sure, Ron Paul can't fix everything, but he's a major signal worldwide, as he said yesterday, that we're going in the right direction again, or that we're trying to turn the ship around.

01:58:41.000 But, my goodness, if we get any of the other candidates, Obama, Romney, Gingrich, heaven help us.

01:58:48.000 Stay with us.

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02:00:34.000 Gunter Spenz, former colonel in the East German Army, gonna be in studio with us, and he was part of the group that stood down and led to the fall of the Berlin Wall, and that's what we're coming to here.

02:00:46.000 The globalists are just gonna get more and more corrupt until they fall.

02:00:49.000 The question is, will they crush us in the process?

02:00:53.000 I think we're doing a pretty good job, though, Max.

02:00:55.000 I see a lot of people waking up.

02:00:56.000 Briefly, your statement on that, and we'll take some more calls.

02:01:00.000 Well, you know, Alex, this is why God invented the guillotine.

02:01:08.000 So that's the long and short of it.

02:01:09.000 Let's go to Freedom Lover in Florida.

02:01:12.000 You're on the air with Max Keiser.

02:01:13.000 Hi, thanks for taking my call.

02:01:17.000 I listen to both of you all the time.

02:01:18.000 I was wondering, well, one statement I want to make, and then I have a couple questions.

02:01:25.000 What I would think would be a great ticket with Ron Paul personally would be Peter Schiff.

02:01:29.000 I think you'd be a great running mate.

02:01:31.000 But having said that, I wanted to know, Max, is there validity behind a statement that Mike Dillard of the Elevation Group made that 144 tons of gold was supposed to be sent to Libya from the New York Fed, and that's actually what got Gaddafi assassinated?

02:01:51.000 And also, if I could just follow up with you, Alex.

02:01:55.000 What do you mean, personally, when you say that you see a turnaround after, like, the final clampdown occurs?

02:02:01.000 Well, I mean, things are going to have to get really bad before people start really waking up.

02:02:05.000 People are starting to wake up now because things are bad, but they have no idea, historically, how guaranteed crazy this is going to get.

02:02:12.000 But yes, it's true that, from what I read, I don't know about the particular guy you mentioned, that Libya was demanding delivery of its gold, and we know Venezuela has now done that.

02:02:20.000 Max Keiser.

02:02:23.000 The thing about Libya was, of course, the second they let Tony Blair into the country, the country was doomed.

02:02:30.000 He got JP Morgan to manage their pension accounts, lost 98%.

02:02:35.000 Got Goldman Sachs to come in and manage some sovereign wealth money, they lost something like 80%.

02:02:40.000 They totally bankrupted the country within six months.

02:02:42.000 This is what killed Libya because Tony Blair introduced them. 1.00

02:02:46.000 Of course, Tony Blair went from governing Britain to going on JPMorgan's board of directors and cutting deals in the Mideast.

02:02:53.000 And Gaddafi thought that they really wanted to be his friends.

02:02:56.000 Talk about becoming a delusional dictator. 0.75

02:02:59.000 Well, he met the true terrorists!

02:03:01.000 You know, he thought blowing up a Pan Am flight, that's chicken feed compared to what Tony Blair does on a daily basis.

02:03:06.000 Yeah, they blow up whole countries.

02:03:08.000 They blow up whole countries.

02:03:09.000 That's not... Yeah, that's a Pan Am flight, that's not... that's just an initiation for these guys.

02:03:15.000 They gotta do that just to get into... Freedom lover, great questions.

02:03:18.000 One last one for Max Keiser.

02:03:19.000 Darrell in North Carolina.

02:03:21.000 Yeah.

02:03:23.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:03:24.000 Hello, Max.

02:03:25.000 Very quickly, I'd like to ask...

02:03:27.000 You say that the banks can just go in and snatch out of your deposit.

02:03:33.000 Do credit unions face the same risk?

02:03:37.000 And do you feel that if Glass-Steagall was reinstalled that we would recover?

02:03:41.000 That's a good question.

02:03:42.000 Max Keiser, take us out with that.

02:03:47.000 Max, did you hear his question?

02:03:48.000 Okay, yeah, credit unions.

02:03:50.000 Yeah, credit unions are definitely a far superior alternative.

02:03:54.000 And the second question was again?

02:03:58.000 If Glass-Steagall was reinstated, do you think we should recover?

02:04:03.000 Yeah, Glass-Steagall, of course.

02:04:05.000 Glass-Steagall, any...

02:04:07.000 Yeah, what's happening is, Max, your Skype or phone or wherever we got you on today, it's Skype audio, is breaking up.

02:04:16.000 But I think it's more important, you know, to point out, as you said, that they're leveraging the derivatives right now.

02:04:22.000 They're not getting, so that's the opposite of getting Glass-Steagall.

02:04:24.000 In fact, they're going You know, even more than the other direction.

02:04:28.000 They're using bailout money to further gamble and becoming more and more reckless.

02:04:32.000 Max Keiser, thank you so much for joining us.

02:04:35.000 How do they steal private bank accounts?

02:04:37.000 They have the government take it over to protect them.

02:04:39.000 Correct, Max?

02:04:41.000 Yeah, they just make a phone call.

02:04:43.000 There's no laws.

02:04:46.000 Thank you so much.

02:04:46.000 Alright, Max.

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02:04:48.000 We'll talk to you again soon.

02:04:49.000 All right, buddy.

02:04:50.000 Thanks.

02:04:51.000 There goes Max.

02:04:52.000 Great having him on for an hour and a half.

02:04:53.000 Okay, we've got our amazing next guest coming on.

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02:08:31.000 Well, for the rest of the hour, Guter Spins is our guest.

02:08:48.000 And they have the video up at the Oath Keeper's website where he was interviewed.

02:08:53.000 He's brought his former East German passport and his diplomas on.

02:08:59.000 Army documents, of course he showed all that to Oath Keepers, but he's involved with Oath Keepers and is a patriot because we know the history of what happened there with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

02:09:10.000 We know that it was a key military group, military group that he was in and commanding, that actually said no on the orders to shoot the citizens that in mass were climbing over the wall.

02:09:23.000 That loss of power by the state, just like with Ceausescu in Romania, by the military standing down even for a short period is what finally brought the tyrants down.

02:09:33.000 Of course, the military tried to overthrow Hitler, was not as successful.

02:09:36.000 There have been other attempts.

02:09:39.000 But in this case, it wasn't a military coup.

02:09:42.000 It was just the military standing down and not shooting their citizens that they did do in the past famously.

02:09:48.000 And I don't want to go over his entire bio.

02:09:49.000 It's very, very lengthy.

02:09:51.000 And it's also in a big article at Oathkeepers.org.

02:09:54.000 But the article's headline is Oathkeepers at the fall of the Berlin Wall article.

02:09:59.000 And it breaks it down.

02:10:00.000 He was born in 52, got a university degree and joined the Army in 72.

02:10:03.000 At this time, the Army had to get rid of the older officers.

02:10:07.000 I guess they weren't playing ball.

02:10:08.000 The new generation was very well educated and not dependent on the support of the party.

02:10:12.000 We followed our oath.

02:10:15.000 Uh, the revolution started in the spring of 89 in the city of, uh, how do I pronounce that?

02:10:20.000 Leipzig, I knew I was getting it right.

02:10:22.000 I can hardly pronounce English, much less German.

02:10:24.000 Uh, Deutsch, in a church in downtown.

02:10:27.000 On Monday, by 7pm, the service ended and a group of church members were just walking around, uh, Doing nothing, and it goes on, they just walked over the street into heavy traffic, but every car stopped to give them the way.

02:10:39.000 People came to watch, and week by week, more and more joined them.

02:10:43.000 The party became a big problem.

02:10:45.000 It goes on.

02:10:45.000 Encouraged by that, many people left East Germany via the embassies of other countries.

02:10:50.000 And then he breaks down what happened after that.

02:10:53.000 He was served at the headquarters of the 3rd Army in that city, at Leipzig, at the rank of Lieutenant Colonel.

02:10:59.000 The Stasi, a secret police, and the party arrested ...him in the summer of 89, but my commander gave them five days to provide any evidence.

02:11:08.000 They could not, and I came back into service.

02:11:11.000 I wish that LTC Terry Lackin had such a commander.

02:11:16.000 And then it goes into what happened to other folks.

02:11:18.000 You know, I meant to get this photo, but then I couldn't find it last night because I've moved several times, but my mother went to Germany and brought back a famous photo of the East German soldier helping the toddler through to its parents.

02:11:32.000 Have you seen that photo?

02:11:33.000 Yes, I've seen it.

02:11:34.000 Do you remember the name of it?

02:11:35.000 Because we won't be able to pull it up if you can remember it.

02:11:38.000 Okay, well, basically, I've only gone into part of this.

02:11:42.000 You guys stood down, and then that led, finally, to the falling of the Berlin Wall, so it shows that one man on the right can stand up against an army of people who are in the wrong, to paraphrase the founder of the Texas Rangers.

02:11:54.000 So, Gunter Spins, it's good to have you here today.

02:11:58.000 Break down your story, what you witnessed in Germany, in East Germany, and then the parallels that you see happening in the world today, if any.

02:12:08.000 Yes, thank you for having me.

02:12:10.000 So I'm Gunther Spenz.

02:12:12.000 I serve the East German Army.

02:12:14.000 I left the army in 1989 as lieutenant colonel.

02:12:16.000 This is the document.

02:12:17.000 as Lieutenant Colonel.

02:12:20.000 This is a document, this is the ID.

02:12:23.000 Every officer, every soldier has such a document.

02:12:27.000 There's still my picture in it, of course.

02:12:29.000 Yeah, they're going to aim the camera in a moment at that.

02:12:32.000 And, of course, the rank, lieutenant colonel, and also the base I served, which was Leipzig, and there's the number.

02:12:44.000 Yes, sir.

02:12:44.000 Can we see the photo?

02:12:45.000 It's just really interesting.

02:12:46.000 Here you go.

02:12:47.000 Thank you.

02:12:48.000 Yeah, there's one.

02:12:49.000 Go ahead.

02:12:50.000 Thank you.

02:12:51.000 Please continue.

02:12:53.000 So, I served first in the 4th Infantry Division and since 1976 in the command of the headquarters of the 3rd Army.

02:13:07.000 And I became a lieutenant colonel and I was in Leipzig and the revolution started in Leipzig, in the city of Leipzig.

02:13:19.000 It started really with a few men from the church that left the church by 7 p.m.

02:13:26.000 in the city in downtown of Leipzig.

02:13:29.000 And there is like a ring, a street, around the downtown.

02:13:35.000 And he just walked in the middle of the traffic, in the middle of the street, around the downtown.

02:13:42.000 No sign, nothing.

02:13:45.000 Just he was there, quiet, peaceful.

02:13:48.000 So it was that silent protest that triggered it?

02:13:51.000 Yes, that triggered it.

02:13:52.000 I mean, the situation for the GDR, for East Germany, was not good at this time.

02:13:56.000 A lot left East Germany via the Ambassador in Hungary, in Czechia.

02:14:04.000 And the border itself was very well, let's say, protected.

02:14:09.000 It was not possible to cross the border.

02:14:12.000 Unless you will die.

02:14:13.000 But via the Ambassador, you could go. 0.80

02:14:17.000 It was easier.

02:14:18.000 And the pressure was that high, we had to find a solution.

02:14:22.000 But there was no solution.

02:14:24.000 This is hard to say.

02:14:26.000 Because there was no public, there was no free press, no free media.

02:14:30.000 stood down and others stood down at your command base, what, in 89?

02:14:34.000 What would happen to people, and what were the numbers of those that were killed?

02:14:38.000 This is hard to say, because there was no public, there was no free press, no free media.

02:14:47.000 Definitely, I would say, on the thousands.

02:14:52.000 Especially in the beginning, when the border was consolidated, it was not possible, from my opinion, to cross the border and be alive. - Yes.

02:15:05.000 There was, in the way before, when you go close to the border, Kilometer about 17 miles.

02:15:15.000 It was completely blocked.

02:15:17.000 You had a special document when you are living there.

02:15:20.000 All others would be arrested.

02:15:22.000 You could not even close to the border.

02:15:24.000 So living near the border you had to have a special document?

02:15:27.000 A special document, then you could go in this area.

02:15:31.000 The border itself was, there was at least two fences with about 100 yards between it.

02:15:39.000 Full light, all day, all night.

02:15:42.000 And we had the towers, and the soldier there, and he would shoot.

02:15:48.000 For sure. 0.99

02:15:48.000 It was the order to shoot everyone on the border. 0.99

02:15:52.000 Wow.

02:15:52.000 We talked about that famous photo of the German soldier with the toddler that's been caught in the bar bar, and he helps it through, and then we're told that that soldier disappeared.

02:16:03.000 Yes.

02:16:04.000 And the border was closed in August.

02:16:09.000 13th of August 1961.

02:16:10.000 Since then was the border completely closed.

02:16:14.000 It started with the Berlin Wall, and also the border along to West Germany was completely closed.

02:16:21.000 Even if it was not possible to go to the Baltic Sea, in the North, no way.

02:16:27.000 In the beginning, a lot died, of course, because they expected they can do this, can go, there's no way.

02:16:36.000 Even when you leave East Germany to the East, for Bulgaria, Poland, all this, there was always control.

02:16:44.000 I was several times in the Black Sea vacation, and when I crossed the border to the Czech, from the Czech to Hungary, everyone called back to my base and told he left the border there.

02:16:59.000 Before I got the authorization to go, it was Our country is in the East.

02:17:05.000 When I got the authorization, I had to declare what point I will cross the border.

02:17:12.000 When, what time, and the same the way back.

02:17:15.000 Even this was exactly controlled.

02:17:17.000 Now continuing, because I want to get into the fall of the Berlin Wall and how you were intimately involved in that with the first major military group to stand down and how that took place and how you discussed it beforehand.

02:17:29.000 And then I want to get into parallels with what's happening today, as I mentioned earlier, but what was it like talking to the military, you know, once you got into the army, about when they did have to shoot citizens, and did you ever witness any of that?

02:17:42.000 There was two parts.

02:17:44.000 Actually, East Germany had the authorization to have 110,000 soldiers, no more.

02:17:50.000 There were more, so they divided the, we would say here, border patrol, Just troops from the normal army.

02:17:57.000 So they were separated.

02:17:59.000 It was the same, the same ministry, the same department.

02:18:03.000 So that was my next question.

02:18:04.000 What type of men in the special units that would shoot their own German citizens, East German citizens, what type of people were they?

02:18:13.000 They served, normally they had to serve 18 months in the army.

02:18:17.000 Everyone, unless you are sick or have a reason not to do so.

02:18:23.000 And they selected people for the army.

02:18:26.000 For the Air Force and also for, let's say, Border Patrol, this part.

02:18:32.000 He was young, 18, 19, 20, had to serve 18 years.

02:18:37.000 When someone should, he was replaced and had a different service to do, he was away from his friends, from his unit.

02:18:48.000 He would not stay in the unit.

02:18:50.000 Oh, because I guess they knew that after you'd killed another citizen, a lot of times you had bad feelings about it.

02:18:56.000 Bad feelings about, you would talk about, and no one should talk about.

02:19:00.000 So, they moved him away. 0.90

02:19:02.000 I have no idea what... Yeah, now they're giving the troops amnesiacs after they tell them, kill a whole village, they give them an amnesiac.

02:19:09.000 That's even come out in Wire Magazine, so no one remembers.

02:19:13.000 That's pretty, pretty evil.

02:19:15.000 In the last years that I was active in service, no one would try to cross the border.

02:19:22.000 Because everyone knows there is no way.

02:19:24.000 But then, they would shoot.

02:19:26.000 This is for sure, you know?

02:19:29.000 What about that famous photo?

02:19:30.000 Because, I mean, how could you shoot women and children?

02:19:34.000 I guess they just followed orders and did it?

02:19:36.000 Yes.

02:19:38.000 Just put it over and did it.

02:19:39.000 Romania is very interesting.

02:19:55.000 Let's talk about Romania straight ahead.

02:19:58.000 Gunter Spens is our guest.

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02:25:02.000 Now, now, uh, getting back to Oath Keepers, this is a short segment, but, uh, you were saying it'd be good to start now just on how the stand-down began and, uh, how proud of you are of, you know, the town that you were in and the command center that you were in, what you guys said beforehand and then what unfolded.

02:25:19.000 Yeah, so how the beginning of the Berlin Wall began.

02:25:21.000 You were there.

02:25:22.000 Yes, it started in the spring, early spring in 1989.

02:25:27.000 East Germany existed this time 40 years and economy, everything was going down.

02:25:36.000 And a group of people after the church in downtown Leipzig went out of the church after the service and just walked around the downtown in Leipzig.

02:25:48.000 Next Monday, the same.

02:25:50.000 But more people came, just to watch.

02:25:53.000 I mean, also Staatssicherheit was there and controlled it, but they didn't expect this will continue.

02:25:59.000 And they had nothing in their hands to arrest them or something like this.

02:26:05.000 They just So this will stop and will go away.

02:26:09.000 But what is going away is from more and more.

02:26:13.000 And in the army, the service of regulation, the regulation of service, says clearly you have not to obey, it was written in the documents, you have not to obey an order against the own people or against international law.

02:26:31.000 This was written.

02:26:32.000 So, the body, I mean, the documents were okay in East Germany.

02:26:37.000 But the problem was, the body didn't follow any order.

02:26:40.000 We see this here too.

02:26:43.000 Law is law, but you can ignore it.

02:26:47.000 You enforce law you like.

02:26:49.000 As we see here now, the border is actually closed.

02:26:53.000 When someone comes illegal from Mexico to the United States, it's against the law.

02:26:57.000 It's a crime.

02:26:59.000 But it's not enforced.

02:27:01.000 And same was in East Germany.

02:27:03.000 Much more grass, because the party was always right.

02:27:07.000 And therefore they had cameras, they recorded everything just to collect information and try to find a way to stop this.

02:27:15.000 But it was not stopped because there were more and more and every Monday people came from other cities close Leipzig every Monday in city to see and joined more and later also as officers from our headquarter joined not in uniform but I know this man And then in October, the 7th of October was the 40th anniversary of the Republic, East Germany.

02:27:41.000 And the Monday before it was 75,000.

02:27:43.000 And when you see the numbers, Leipzig had a population of about, at this time, 500,000.

02:27:50.000 And 75,000 were on the street, from everywhere.

02:27:55.000 We had a long way sometimes, not just from the city.

02:27:58.000 And you know, the next Monday will be much more.

02:28:03.000 So they tried to stop this the Monday before there was paramilitary units from all the companies they had to have the trained paramilitary units and they put them on the street with Kalashnikov AK-47 but no ammunition.

02:28:24.000 And they did not use the Stasi against because this would have a spring revolution right now.

02:28:33.000 So, he knew exactly that next Monday will be more.

02:28:36.000 Next Monday there are 150,000 on the street.

02:28:41.000 That means 1% of the whole population of East Germany were on this Monday in the city of Leipzig in the rally.

02:28:50.000 This is a lot.

02:28:52.000 And this was finally the fall, there was no way.

02:28:55.000 There would be next Monday maybe health population on the street.

02:29:00.000 So it was over, they had to find a solution.

02:29:03.000 And on this Monday we had a meeting in the headquarter of the army.

02:29:08.000 We had a meeting and afternoon And the commander of the Russians was also there.

02:29:16.000 And our commander was Lieutenant General Bauer.

02:29:21.000 He said clearly, no soldier will leave the base.

02:29:25.000 There were already soldiers, paratroops, in Leipzig.

02:29:30.000 Young guys, 18, 19, 20 years, and they were trained to use them on the street.

02:29:36.000 But no one had to leave the base.

02:29:38.000 All right, stay there.

02:29:39.000 This is an amazing point to stop.

02:29:41.000 And you were a lieutenant colonel there who was part of this, the stand down that on record, in the history books, led to the fall of the Berlin Wall by people simply not acting like animals, acting like human beings.

02:29:53.000 And then we'll talk about what the Stasi did once the fall happened, running and hiding.

02:29:56.000 And then we'll look at parallels to what's happening here today.

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02:33:40.000 Classical tyranny is being set up in this country.

02:33:44.000 And Gunther Spenz was a lieutenant colonel in the East German Army.

02:33:48.000 He was there at the epicenter of the stand down against tyranny.

02:33:52.000 And look at the headlines today.

02:33:54.000 Sheriff's Department sponsored secret meeting on small government terrorist.

02:33:59.000 Run by the ADL, and it says people that don't want big government or want their rights are terrorists.

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02:34:16.000 3,000 acre ranch, they call living on a farm, the government calls it a compound.

02:34:21.000 Even living on a farm!

02:34:22.000 I'm telling you, the entire architecture of this is pointed at the American people.

02:34:27.000 I've been to the urban warfare drills, you've seen my films.

02:34:30.000 The Takeover, Police Day 2000, all of them.

02:34:33.000 You've seen it.

02:34:34.000 Where the military trains to take on the American people.

02:34:37.000 And people are like, oh, this couldn't be real.

02:34:39.000 Now it's being admitted.

02:34:41.000 Ron Paul is fighting, and he said it is martial law.

02:34:43.000 The NDAA is martial law.

02:34:46.000 The House is set to pass it tomorrow.

02:34:48.000 Okay?

02:34:49.000 And Obama, who said that he didn't want to sign it because he already has those powers, turns out he pressured Congress to actually add the part for American citizens in the end of Posse Comitatus and kill anybody in the world anytime they want.

02:35:01.000 I mean, this is, this is, the Stasi never tried something like this.

02:35:05.000 The Russians didn't behave like this.

02:35:07.000 I mean, Hitler didn't put stuff like this down on paper.

02:35:11.000 Mao didn't put stuff like this down on paper.

02:35:13.000 You know, as you were saying, Gunther, that even in East Germany you had all these rights on paper.

02:35:19.000 The UN has all these rights on paper, to get to Article 30.

02:35:22.000 We have all these rights on paper.

02:35:24.000 America's the first country to actually be getting rid of them on paper.

02:35:28.000 This is unprecedented!

02:35:30.000 Atlanta, the free home of the brave, would now become this light of evil worldwide.

02:35:34.000 So, let's get back to the stand-down and what progressed.

02:35:38.000 You said the commander of the base.

02:35:40.000 If you remember, tell us his name and everything that transpired, what it was like, what you were talking about, and then what unfolded, then what the Stasi did, and the changes that took place, and then we'll get into what America's turned into from the parallels you may see.

02:35:54.000 First, as I mentioned, An army soldier, officer, did not obey any order against their own people, against international law.

02:36:05.000 I'm a housekeeper here, and when you read the 10 orders we did not obey, we are called terrorists.

02:36:14.000 He was not a terrorist in East Germany.

02:36:16.000 In East Germany, when someone had a different meaning or tried to walk against the party, he was not a patriot, he was not a terrorist, he was against the Republic.

02:36:28.000 Enemy of the Republic.

02:36:30.000 Yes, enemy of the state, enemy of the Republic.

02:36:32.000 It is actually the same.

02:36:34.000 And the same happens here.

02:36:35.000 When you say you stand for the Constitution, you support the Constitution, you took the oath to defend the Constitution, then you're close to a terrorist.

02:36:44.000 Something is not right.

02:36:45.000 Listen, I have police squad car video in my film Road to Tyranny where they pull a woman over at a checkpoint and they find a pocket Constitution and they get scared.

02:36:53.000 They swore an oath to it.

02:36:54.000 It's like a joke.

02:36:56.000 I mean, even with the East German police and military, you guys weren't scared of the Constitution, were you?

02:37:02.000 Somebody pulled it out and generally it was a snake?

02:37:05.000 It was completely different in East Germany because we got to teach the Constitution in the school.

02:37:11.000 I learned it in the school.

02:37:13.000 And then later, before you took the oath in the army, we had lessons about the Constitution, what we have to do.

02:37:21.000 And then we took the oath of the Constitution and became soldiers, or in my case, officers.

02:37:27.000 The Constitution, everyone knows it because it was teached in the school.

02:37:31.000 Everyone knows the history.

02:37:32.000 Of course, a little bit different because it's the big question, who tells you the history?

02:37:38.000 Exactly.

02:37:39.000 Now, I want to get back to the parallels with modern day, but let's continue.

02:37:42.000 So you're there in the town where it all begins.

02:37:45.000 Your commanding officer says, You're ordered to go out on the streets and suppress people, don't do it.

02:37:50.000 Yes, they started, the party started different ways to bring this, this rallies down.

02:37:55.000 But there were more and more people and there was no way to bring them down.

02:37:59.000 And they could not start.

02:38:00.000 The Stasi could do nothing.

02:38:01.000 When the Stasi would be on the street and try to arrest people, there would be a civil war.

02:38:07.000 Everyone hates the Stasi.

02:38:09.000 They could not do anything.

02:38:11.000 Not in public.

02:38:12.000 And they tried to bring the army in.

02:38:16.000 First, the paramilitary troops, without ammunition, but with AK-47s, just standing there along the street, doing nothing, just to make a statement, give a statement.

02:38:28.000 And then they brought from close to Berlin as a base of the Paratroops, Parachutas and the Airborne, and they brought them to Leipzig. 0.52

02:38:37.000 So they were marching around with machine guns, trying to intimidate people just like our system does now.

02:38:42.000 Just making pressure. 0.69

02:38:43.000 Black uniforms, guns, German shepherds.

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02:38:47.000 And later, they really were going to use the Paratroops, the soldiers, against the people to bring them from the street.

02:38:57.000 And the last day was the 7th of October.

02:39:02.000 150,000 on the street, which is immense for the city Leipzig.

02:39:06.000 And we had in the afternoon a meeting.

02:39:09.000 All officers of the headquarter of the army and our commander said clearly no soldier will leave the base.

02:39:17.000 Really?

02:39:18.000 This Monday.

02:39:19.000 No social relief to base.

02:39:21.000 Including the power troops.

02:39:22.000 We are there.

02:39:23.000 So, it was, and all the time, was absolutely peaceful.

02:39:28.000 Absolutely peaceful.

02:39:29.000 No broken window, nothing.

02:39:31.000 It's incredible when you see this.

02:39:33.000 This is power.

02:39:35.000 And so, when the authoritarian state's enforcers didn't enforce, the tyranny fell.

02:39:42.000 But, please continue, so what happened once the military stood down?

02:39:48.000 Well, the rally was peaceful, huge rally, and the party know this is just the beginning.

02:39:56.000 The week before, 75,000.

02:39:58.000 Next Monday, twice the size, 150,000.

02:40:02.000 Which is 1% of the whole population of East Germany.

02:40:06.000 There was no way out of the situation.

02:40:09.000 And what the party did, they said, we have to do something.

02:40:12.000 And the problem was the border.

02:40:14.000 They didn't want to leave.

02:40:16.000 Leave East Germany. 0.97

02:40:17.000 And the border was closed.

02:40:18.000 And this was a question of the time.

02:40:21.000 It would be like a civil war.

02:40:23.000 And normally the party works like this.

02:40:27.000 They will not give you an order in the party.

02:40:30.000 They will tell you what they want and you... and they expect you will do the best you can to fulfill this order.

02:40:38.000 So in the party you would never say you have to say this, you have to do this.

02:40:42.000 Nobody will say it's necessary and you can do this and give you the order but you have to do it and decide it by your own.

02:40:50.000 So fulfill the order of the party.

02:40:52.000 This is all the education of the party about this way.

02:40:57.000 So, and what happens the following is that we need a document, we need a solution for the situation on the border.

02:41:05.000 A colonel from the Border Patrol, Got the order to provide a document, build a group and provide some document for the part of the solution for this situation.

02:41:20.000 And I heard him later when he explained what he said, I have no idea what I can do.

02:41:28.000 There is no solution.

02:41:30.000 The only solution is open the border.

02:41:33.000 And he wrote the document.

02:41:35.000 Everyone has the right to leave and cross the border.

02:41:39.000 And the party did not even read this.

02:41:42.000 Because it never happens before.

02:41:44.000 He was a colonel, he was a member of the party, he got the order and they expect he will do the best he can for the party to fix this problem.

02:41:53.000 And he had no idea, so he wrote, everyone can leave.

02:41:57.000 And the secretary of the party in Berlin was, there was also a demonstration in a rally in Berlin now, Berlin and in Dresden, and the people would have an answer, and he should provide an answer, a solution for this problem, and he got this document, and he just, he was happy, no one checked it from the party.

02:42:16.000 Everyone was sure it would be the right way, because it wasn't the party.

02:42:21.000 And he read, and he stopped.

02:42:25.000 Then he continued, everyone can leave with a passport, the East German Democratic Republic.

02:42:34.000 No one expected this.

02:42:35.000 So basically because the general was told to figure out a way to fix it he said okay let him go and so as a chain reaction well a high-level party person said this and it must be okay and that shows that command-and-control system.

02:42:47.000 Now what did the Stasi start to do after the wall fell?

02:42:50.000 You know people that love torturing, the people that love controlling people, love spying.

02:42:54.000 It started far before.

02:42:56.000 They know exactly get good information.

02:42:59.000 They know there will be an end.

02:43:03.000 The economy was going down, the rallies, more and more people.

02:43:07.000 And what they did, the Stasi was also in the army.

02:43:10.000 It was called Department 2000.

02:43:12.000 The Stasi had every six months, they had to write a document about me.

02:43:19.000 I can continue the position I have or not.

02:43:24.000 They have to check it, you know, if they see some risk for the body, it would be moved away.

02:43:30.000 By the way, you were arrested once by the Stasi.

02:43:32.000 I was arrested by the Stasi.

02:43:33.000 What did they do?

02:43:34.000 Keep you up and stuff?

02:43:35.000 What did they do to you?

02:43:35.000 No, but... Were you an army officer?

02:43:37.000 Was it a little bit better?

02:43:38.000 They... What they tried is to find something, you know.

02:43:43.000 Some evidence which would be against our regulation of service or against the body.

02:43:50.000 This is pretty easy because as an officer you have actually no rights.

02:43:57.000 In East Germany you have rights, of course, but when you do anything, even when you look TV from West Germany, there would be a reason to lock you up.

02:44:07.000 It was forbidden.

02:44:09.000 It's crazy.

02:44:09.000 Verboten?

02:44:10.000 Verboten.

02:44:12.000 Wow.

02:44:13.000 So what did they do to you while you were in there?

02:44:16.000 First they tried to find some evidence.

02:44:20.000 I left the base for just some service and I got a hint I should stop at my home and have a look at my home and I did this on the way.

02:44:32.000 The street was in my apartment and searching for anything or trying to put something in.

02:44:39.000 No idea what.

02:44:41.000 I called the police, the Staser got arrested, that was fun.

02:44:45.000 Oh really?

02:44:46.000 Of course he let them go, yeah.

02:44:49.000 So the same type of stuff we see here where you call the sheriff on the feds.

02:44:52.000 Yes.

02:44:52.000 And of course you had warrantless wiretapping, all the same things that we now see happening here.

02:44:58.000 Now, how did you get to the United States?

02:45:01.000 Obviously back then the US criticized the type of things going on in East Germany.

02:45:04.000 Now they say it's like mother's milk.

02:45:06.000 Tyranny is good, freedom is bad.

02:45:08.000 It's kind of flipped, and in some cases it's going more extreme, where they have Air Force aircraft scanning the evil citizens now.

02:45:16.000 The whole system being used against us, a conscious move towards authoritarianism, the branding of it, all of it.

02:45:22.000 What are the parallels?

02:45:24.000 uh... that you see uh... with uh... what you you witness growing up in East Germany a famous authoritarian state versus the U.S.

02:45:32.000 and the direction we're going.

02:45:34.000 When you see the First Amendment I mean I have a certain officer it was in a gun show I had my shirt on and the officer saw me police officer he was there in service and he went away Not by accident.

02:45:55.000 I gave the other way, he came, went away.

02:45:58.000 And I said, Officer, do you have a problem with my shirt?

02:46:01.000 Because it looks like my shirt here.

02:46:03.000 And he just looked away.

02:46:04.000 And then he came back and said, I don't want to become a target.

02:46:11.000 This police officer has a problem with someone who keeps his oath.

02:46:16.000 He took the oath too, same.

02:46:18.000 He was saying he didn't want to become a target or you're one?

02:46:22.000 He says, read it to me, I don't want to become a target.

02:46:27.000 So the police officers are under pressure, at least some of them, To say, okay, I stay to my oath.

02:46:34.000 I will not obey any... Oh, no, no, no.

02:46:36.000 We've confirmed, and it's come out in documents, Oath Keepers, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, they sit up there with the military and police and say, these are bad men, don't listen to them.

02:46:44.000 Yes.

02:46:45.000 Pull them over if you see this.

02:46:46.000 I mean, of course, this is the, probably the frontrunner on the Republican Party, and they still have manuals saying he's evil.

02:46:53.000 I mean, how can police not know?

02:46:55.000 The bad guys tell you stuff like that.

02:46:57.000 This is obviously the bad guys.

02:46:59.000 This is the bureaucracy that's engaged in all the crimes.

02:47:03.000 I'm sorry, I'm ranting.

02:47:04.000 Continue with your stories of parallels you see.

02:47:07.000 The next thing is, in East Germany...

02:47:16.000 They are documents.

02:47:17.000 You could clearly tell the party, here, this is our constitution, and here is our regulation of service, and here is written what I have to do.

02:47:26.000 I have not to obey an order against constitution, against our people.

02:47:32.000 You could say and you could show this.

02:47:35.000 Here, there's no question about it.

02:47:37.000 You are a terrorist if you believe in the Constitution.

02:47:40.000 So it's worse. 0.98

02:47:41.000 It's worse.

02:47:42.000 It's more.

02:47:43.000 I mean, here's the ADL having secret meetings with law enforcement saying if you talk about small government, you are a terrorist.

02:47:50.000 I mean, that is obviously terrorism.

02:47:52.000 Look, and see, by the Patriot Act, they can lock you away.

02:47:56.000 Without any reason.

02:47:57.000 No evidence.

02:47:58.000 You have no right to call them.

02:48:00.000 And now they want to use the military against the people.

02:48:02.000 This is the next step about the party election.

02:48:05.000 And the party election is extended.

02:48:09.000 Actually, it ran out half a year ago.

02:48:12.000 And by the vote in the Congress, And they voted to extend the Patriot Act.

02:48:18.000 This is absolutely against the Constitution.

02:48:21.000 When the Stasi arrested me, they had to do something after I saw them in my apartment.

02:48:28.000 So they arrested me.

02:48:30.000 And our commander said, okay, to have five days time to the Stasi has five days time to provide some evidence against me or I'm back in service.

02:48:42.000 So our government tramples on rights worse than the Stasi? 0.98

02:48:46.000 Yes.

02:48:48.000 I had the right five days and they had to show evidence.

02:48:52.000 He can arrest you, can arrest me here without evidence.

02:48:56.000 Without any right.

02:48:57.000 What do you think of the fact that Homeland Security hired Marcus Wolf as a consultant?

02:49:03.000 Well, would work.

02:49:06.000 They may need him.

02:49:08.000 He died a few years after that, but the point is that they would... I mean, it's so clear-cut tyranny.

02:49:14.000 What do you think of the TSA, and they do violate the Constitution, Fourth Amendment, groping children, microwaving people, and now highway checkpoints?

02:49:27.000 It's completely against the Constitution.

02:49:29.000 What would the Germans have done in East Germany if they had checkpoints where they fondled your children? 0.87

02:49:35.000 There were checkpoints around Berlin in the beginning, in the first years.

02:49:39.000 Because there was no border, it was open.

02:49:41.000 Shortly after the war, yeah?

02:49:43.000 After World War II.

02:49:45.000 But there was never checkpoints anywhere in Germany.

02:49:48.000 In East Germany... So again, we're worse than East Germany, all we have left is free speech, and they're in the news, saying get rid of freedom of speech, and openly, Cass Sunstein calling for alternative media's arrest.

02:49:59.000 I mean, they are bonafide tyrants.

02:50:02.000 The only check in East Germany was for crime when they search for someone.

02:50:07.000 But there were no regular checkpoints anywhere in East Germany.

02:50:11.000 It was a socialistic state.

02:50:13.000 What would the East Germans have done if they did TSA type stuff?

02:50:17.000 Would the revolt have come sooner?

02:50:20.000 Would come sooner.

02:50:21.000 So East Germans wouldn't put up with what happens in America?

02:50:25.000 There was no way.

02:50:29.000 That's why I've researched the whole planet.

02:50:31.000 Only North Korea is more draconian than the US.

02:50:34.000 And it's weird though, there's this parallel of tyranny, but then all the old vestigial freedoms are still there.

02:50:40.000 But the system is demonizing it, and it doesn't matter how comical it looks.

02:50:44.000 Here's the ADL, sir, they're here to teach the cadets that...

02:50:47.000 George Washington is bad.

02:50:48.000 I mean, I actually have video of FEMA with ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center, training manuals that wrote a tyranny saying, George Washington terrorist, Thomas Jefferson terrorist, and the cops are all... I mean, it's like saying... I mean, it's so absurd you think it's a comedy, and it's not.

02:51:03.000 They really are bad guys, and they think they're the good guys.

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02:54:25.000 You can see my breakdown Pentagon drones now targeting rural Americans.

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02:55:05.000 When I came to the U.S.

02:55:06.000 members of Congress protest indefinite detention bill.

02:55:08.000 We're going to talk more today, Mr. Spins, about your experiences.

02:55:13.000 But in closing, what do you, I mean, you came to the U.S., what do you think of it?

02:55:18.000 Other parallels, do you have a warning to the people?

02:55:21.000 Why are you speaking out?

02:55:22.000 When I came to the U.S. again 13 years ago to the U.S., I had no idea about America without the normal information and I studied first the Constitution to understand the lifestyle here, understand more about politics, how it works. I had no idea about America without the normal information it And the Constitution, when I compare it with the Constitution we had,

02:55:46.000 Our was new, because it was 40 years old, and was actually written very well, but there is a huge difference between both, even if it was correct.

02:55:56.000 The constitution in all other states, even in East Germany, was written to tell how the government can rule the people.

02:56:05.000 This is here completely different.

02:56:07.000 Constitution is written for the people to say keep the government out for the rights of the people.

02:56:07.000 We the people.

02:56:14.000 It is completely different.

02:56:16.000 The people are the sovereign not the government.

02:56:18.000 Yes.

02:56:19.000 So, and then history, how it came to the United States, the Dorian First Colonies, and the Bill of Rights.

02:56:30.000 When you go to the Bill of Rights, I heard a very good explanation about this, very short, from Judge Andrew Napolitano.

02:56:37.000 He said, Uh, Amendment 1 says government, you cannot do this.

02:56:42.000 Amendment 2 says government, you cannot do this.

02:56:45.000 Amendment 9 says government, you cannot do this.

02:56:49.000 Amendment 10 says, and if you have someone forgotten, you can't do it either.

02:56:54.000 The whole thing is about binding down government, now it's been turned all the way around backwards, and the media will blame the Constitution for the situation we're in.

02:57:02.000 We've gotten the situation because we've ignored it.

02:57:04.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:57:06.000 I mean, I heard our now president say the Constitution says what the government not can do.

02:57:13.000 But the Constitution says not what we all can do for our people.

02:57:18.000 It is not the service of the, the question of the government to rule our lives.

02:57:23.000 What do you think of, what do you think of just the open announcements that torture is good, secret arrest is good?

02:57:29.000 It is like a bad dream.

02:57:31.000 It is.

02:57:32.000 And I have lots of discussions with my American friends about terrorists.

02:57:37.000 I mean, yes, what was the last one killed in Yemen?

02:57:41.000 It was actually in America.

02:57:42.000 Yeah.

02:57:43.000 So from my opinion, the Constitution says pretty clear.

02:57:48.000 You have to write for a drill in the court and you have to see evidence, separate evidence.

02:57:54.000 Well that's right, how do we know he was a terrorist?

02:57:56.000 They told us so?

02:57:57.000 That this precedent of "we kill you and just believe us" when there are a known, a group of known liars, they don't want a court hearing because they don't want it to come out that he worked for them.

02:58:05.000 Yes. 0.91

02:58:06.000 By the way he did, that did come out in the news.

02:58:07.000 Or the underwear bomber was gotten on the plane.

02:58:09.000 Yeah.

02:58:10.000 That's why they don't want a trial.

02:58:12.000 And this guy, the last terrorist who got killed, was never convicted with any crime.

02:58:17.000 And there were two men more in the car.

02:58:19.000 They killed three with a drone.

02:58:21.000 Two men more.

02:58:22.000 They had no idea who they are.

02:58:24.000 And I heard on TV, ah, they have to be bad guys too when they are in the same car.

02:58:31.000 And now they're saying the army will use the drones against us, and now they're doing it.

02:58:35.000 I mean, the bill hasn't even completely passed yet, and it's already happening.

02:58:39.000 They say it's against the law, but so what?

02:58:39.000 That's in the news.

02:58:42.000 The American people will put up with anything.

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Alex Jones Show - December 14, 2011

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