Alex Jones Show - 20111226_Mon_Alex

00:00:04.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:23.000 Alright, we've got an amazing guest coming up.

00:00:27.000 Actually, two amazing guests coming up.

00:00:28.000 Joining us via video Skype in the next segment.

00:00:33.000 Oklahoma City investigators, one of them that was there when the bombing, in the aftermath, that is coming up in the next segment.

00:00:42.000 Also in some of the other news, Obama prepared to attack military action.

00:00:47.000 Again, Obama prepared to take military action against Iran.

00:00:50.000 Dennis Ross, a big Obama advisor, says if Obama draws the conclusion that certain kind of steps should be taken against Iran, he'll take them.

00:01:00.000 Yeah, because he's completely blackmailed and controlled.

00:01:04.000 Here's another one.

00:01:05.000 Dozens of people die in roadside bombs in Iraq right as the United States begins to officially pull out.

00:01:13.000 It has all those advisers and embassy staff and mercenaries there.

00:01:17.000 And Tony Cartolucci, writer for Infowars.com, has a big article out.

00:01:24.000 In a move that almost defies belief, It is so brazen and hypocritical, many will not believe it, no matter how many State Department officials confirm it.

00:01:35.000 The U.S.

00:01:35.000 has been guarding a terrorist training camp inside Iraq with U.S.

00:01:39.000 troops, and is planning to relocate them, possibly in a freshly abandoned U.S.

00:01:45.000 military base in Iraq, while D.C.

00:01:47.000 lobbies work feverishly to have them delisted, armed, and sent to conduct terrorist operations in Iran.

00:01:57.000 And this is what, two or three weeks ago, Steve Pachinick, former State Department official and terrorism expert, talked about.

00:02:04.000 The MEK, which is an admitted real terrorist group, is basically working for the U.S.

00:02:09.000 government.

00:02:10.000 I mean, what group isn't?

00:02:11.000 Because this isn't the U.S.

00:02:13.000 government, ladies and gentlemen.

00:02:14.000 It's offshore megabanks that are totally ruthless and hire criminal mercenary groups to stage terror attacks all over the world, to finance other terror groups, to stage bombings here in the U.S., to do it all so the system can take our liberties and freedoms and pose as our saviors.

00:02:32.000 And it is so incredibly dangerous on that front.

00:02:37.000 Looking at Korea and China, ex-president Carter sends condolences to Kim Jong-un. 0.96

00:02:43.000 And that only props these crazy hereditary dictators up. 1.00

00:02:51.000 I understand they've got to have somebody who can diplomatically talk to these people.

00:02:54.000 But why did Donald Rumsfeld, as the head of the big Swiss company back in the mid-1990s, transfer the reactor systems so North Korea could have nuclear weapons?

00:03:07.000 Continuing, Finland finds Patriot missiles on China-bound ship marked as fireworks.

00:03:12.000 She-Walt, you're busy being told to be scared to death of Al-Qaeda under the table.

00:03:16.000 10,000-plus missiles, 2,000-plus that are high-tech, surface-to-air missiles were basically given to Al-Qaeda and allowed to keep them when Al-Qaeda was given control of Libya by NATO.

00:03:29.000 And that's on record.

00:03:30.000 That's even mainstream news.

00:03:31.000 Pull it up.

00:03:33.000 Pull up London Telegraph headlines like, Al-Qaeda flag now flies over Libya.

00:03:37.000 Al-Qaeda being sent in to fight Syrians.

00:03:39.000 Al-Qaeda works for the globalists that have hijacked this country. 0.96

00:03:43.000 People are like, but why would they have them attack us?

00:03:46.000 So they can take all our liberties, blame Iraq that had nothing to do with it, and invade them. 0.82

00:03:51.000 Now they're blaming Iran for 9-11.

00:03:53.000 Next they'll blame you!

00:03:56.000 Or maybe Santa Claus for it.

00:03:58.000 Everybody but who's involved.

00:04:01.000 The Finnish authorities have impounded an Isle of Man flagship bound for China with undeclared missiles and explosives.

00:04:09.000 British or US government, they're always doing this.

00:04:12.000 Police are questioning the crew of the MS Thor Liberty after what were described as 69 Patriot anti-missile missiles were found on board.

00:04:21.000 Yeah, you can also use a Patriot to shoot aircraft down all day long.

00:04:25.000 Oh, but they've been saying Al-Qaeda must have stingers left over from the 80s.

00:04:29.000 Give all your rights up.

00:04:31.000 Continuing here, Interior Minister Pavi Rassan said the missiles were marked fireworks.

00:04:39.000 The MS Thor Liberty was docked in Finnish port after leaving Germany last week.

00:04:43.000 Dock workers became suspicious.

00:04:46.000 After Mr. Napolitano told him to be, I'm joking, after finding explosives poorly stored on open pallets and missiles were then found in containers marked fireworks.

00:04:56.000 More on this coming up, but first, our guest.

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00:06:13.000 I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

00:06:19.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?

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00:08:06.000 All right, we are continuing our series of interviews to document what really happened in Oklahoma City on the record this week.

00:08:22.000 And I'll do it next week and into the new year, at least once or twice a week, because there's so many amazing people that are interviewed and then some that aren't.

00:08:31.000 In this film, A Noble Lie, Oklahoma City, 1995.

00:08:36.000 Jane Graham, the head of HUD, who was in the building and saw known feds planting bombs.

00:08:41.000 She'd know what they were at the time.

00:08:42.000 Big gray sticks of butter.

00:08:44.000 They said they were with a telephone company.

00:08:46.000 You've got the inventor of the neutron bomb saying clearly that there were explosives inside the building.

00:08:50.000 The newscast admitting it as well.

00:08:52.000 You've got the former head of Air Force Weapons Development breaking it down.

00:08:55.000 The mother of police officer of the year, Terence Yankee, the first to respond, who saw the feds running around involved.

00:09:01.000 They, of course, killed him.

00:09:03.000 It's an amazing film and you need to show it to police and military especially.

00:09:07.000 Because the Obama administration has put out, what, three different memos saying a new Oklahoma City would really help them.

00:09:15.000 They don't even veil it.

00:09:16.000 They don't say we're going to do it, they just say it would really help us and if there's a new one we're going to blame the right wing.

00:09:22.000 And barring that, we're in deep trouble.

00:09:24.000 And I see all of it moving towards that.

00:09:26.000 Now our exposure of it may stop them.

00:09:29.000 And I've been talking a lot more in the last year about Oklahoma City again, as you know.

00:09:33.000 I mean, I made a 40-minute film, then a film, and I've made a lot of films that are like three hours long, like Road to Tyranny, that's really three different subjects.

00:09:40.000 The History of Terror and the New World Order, State's Terror, then Oklahoma City, the First World Trade Center, and then into 9-11.

00:09:48.000 Now, this video is available at Infowars.com and it supports the filmmakers and, of course, my operation when you get it.

00:09:55.000 But bottom line, get it, air it on AXS TV, have local showings in your area, just like my films, get my films, you're authorized to make copies of my films.

00:10:04.000 I want all of my videos out there to everybody because this is a life and death situation.

00:10:09.000 I mean, you watch my police state films, you'll understand what's now unfolding.

00:10:13.000 Now let's stop right there.

00:10:15.000 Don Browning is a retired Oklahoma City police officer, former U.S.

00:10:21.000 Marine and Vietnam veteran.

00:10:22.000 Don worked in the K-9 unit and was part of the search and rescue team at the Murrah building after the bombing.

00:10:29.000 And we're going to go to some important questions and riding shotgun with him is Holland Vanden Nieuwenhoff.

00:10:35.000 He is a native of Oklahoma and served as a rifle squad leader in Marine Corps.

00:10:40.000 Holland decided to get off the bench one day and started riding and passing out leaflets that expose government corruption and cover-ups.

00:10:46.000 These efforts led him to collaborate with the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee In their efforts to uncover the truth behind the OKC bombing, he was instrumental in the formation of the first low-power FM station in Oklahoma to fight the globalists. 0.68

00:10:59.000 I had that part that focused on truth and freedom issues carrying my show, of course.

00:11:03.000 Holland engages in a variety of endeavors to spread awareness in his community.

00:11:08.000 Absolutely, and fight the criminals that have taken this country over.

00:11:10.000 So both these gentlemen join us, good American patriots and Marines fighting the tyranny.

00:11:16.000 And from my memory, Don, I've never talked to you, but I believe you're one of the guys got threatened too.

00:11:19.000 We've talked to the other guys, some of the people off record, Department of Defense, bomb disposal, you name it, where they said, don't ask questions about the bombs, or we know where your daughter goes to school.

00:11:30.000 Just incredible.

00:11:31.000 But Don Browning, great to have you joining us via video Skype today, and we appreciate your courage coming on air.

00:11:38.000 Thank you, sir.

00:11:39.000 You know, I could babble all day, but why are you here?

00:11:42.000 What did you see?

00:11:43.000 What is most important for us to understand?

00:11:45.000 And, Holland, you can pretty much, because you know him well and have studied Oklahoma even more than I have, where do you think we should go first?

00:11:54.000 Well, we can start with the day of the bombing, of course, when Don responded, and the get-into-the-evacuations that were later denied that they took place, and the explosives that were found inside the building.

00:12:06.000 Don, you were the first to respond, one of the first to respond to the bombing, right?

00:12:09.000 Yes, sir.

00:12:10.000 And you and your dog, Gunny.

00:12:12.000 Right, correct.

00:12:14.000 And one of the main points of the movie, what we try to emphasize is the fact that there were several evacuations after the initial bombing that they were later denied.

00:12:23.000 They said they were false alarms or hoaxes.

00:12:26.000 But in A Noble Lie, we have videotape from a sheriff's deputy.

00:12:31.000 Taken during one of the evacuations that shows the ATF pulling weapons and plastic Explosives out of the building no one has seen this tape well some people have but it's been passed down Hand-to-hand we digitally remastered the tape no one has seen in this quality, and it's never seen widespread publicity Yeah, by the way, that's the kind of stuff that's in this film is many of your team have been on this for over a decade.

00:12:56.000 I mean, this is a obsession to get the murder of these children out.

00:13:00.000 I mean, that's why it's so important.

00:13:02.000 Well, this is my hometown.

00:13:03.000 I grew up in Oklahoma City.

00:13:04.000 And once I started realizing what had happened, I felt it was my duty to expose the truth.

00:13:09.000 I saw that no one else, well, I mean, other people were doing it, but I wanted to really get the story out to the people.

00:13:14.000 We found a team, we got a good director's team, production, editing, and we made the movie as the best way to get the message out to the masses.

00:13:22.000 Exactly.

00:13:22.000 And it's the only, you know, well-done testament in modern times.

00:13:26.000 So let's get into why Don is such an incredible witness and such an amazing expert.

00:13:31.000 Well Don, you were actually in the building, in the canine rescue unit, and during one of the evacuations, what were they doing during the evacuations?

00:13:43.000 As far as the initial evacuation, we were just trying to determine the location of the victims, really trying to determine how to remove some of the debris.

00:13:54.000 At about 11.30, 10.30, 11 o'clock that first morning, we were halted for the first time.

00:14:03.000 Ordered out of the building for no other reason than they wanted to secure the building.

00:14:09.000 On a limited access, we were allowed back in, in fact, to work for a little bit in the area with Dana Bradley, who's had her leg amputated, being pinned in the building.

00:14:26.000 worked in that area for the next little bit, and then finally we were ordered out by the U.S. Marshals.

00:14:31.000 We were sequestered pretty much on the south side of the Murrah building in the courtyard area.

00:14:38.000 I was kind of held at bay, told that we'd be allowed to go back in and search, but there were files that were so critical to the government that until those files were found, there would be no more rescue or recovery.

00:14:49.000 And there were people still inside?

00:14:51.000 Yes, sir.

00:14:51.000 There was a gentleman that was, apparently he was already deceased, but he was still laying, bleeding out on the south face of the building.

00:15:01.000 And you could see that, and they wouldn't let you recover?

00:15:03.000 Yes, sir.

00:15:04.000 Because they had to recover documents?

00:15:06.000 Correct.

00:15:08.000 What's important about that, Alex, is that maybe one of the reasons that this happened is that their priority was on the documents for some reason.

00:15:16.000 Recovering those documents to the detriment of the people who were trapped inside and died.

00:15:20.000 As the Oklahoma City Police Chief said on camera, that we lost people because of the evacuations.

00:15:26.000 We lost people because of this.

00:15:28.000 And we have all the newscasts where the governor's, yeah, they found more bombs, they're taking them out, that's another device the bomb squad has.

00:15:35.000 And here's Don Browning, who was there with the dog and was a police officer and also a marine veteran.

00:15:43.000 So he, I mean, just amazing to see what was going on.

00:15:47.000 We only have those newscasts.

00:15:48.000 What did you see with them and the reported bombs?

00:15:53.000 There was two different incidents where they claimed that they had Determined that there was a secondary eclosive device.

00:16:02.000 They quarantined that area.

00:16:06.000 I did not actually see them remove the device from the building.

00:16:11.000 It was more to the northwest corner of the building, from what I understood, in the debris.

00:16:17.000 And I was still yet on the south side, close to the elevator shafts.

00:16:22.000 But these evacuations did take place.

00:16:23.000 We have affidavits from first responders saying that there were at least two other bombs discovered in the rubble, that one of these bombs was timed to go off 10 minutes after the first explosion.

00:16:35.000 This is a typical terrorist tactic is to have at least two bombs, one to attract responders and the second bomb to inflict even greater casualties.

00:16:43.000 So there, I mean, this could have been worse.

00:16:45.000 That's the bad thing about Oklahoma City is as bad as it was, it could have been much, much worse.

00:16:51.000 Now going through some of these questions, what really got you asking questions, and I'm going from memory in second hand, Don, how did things progress with the feds telling you to get out of there?

00:17:01.000 Were you ever threatened like some of the other police were?

00:17:04.000 Yes sir, at one point that morning I was advised that we were going to be arrested by federal marshals if we did not leave the immediate area.

00:17:15.000 Like I said, we didn't want to be a hindrance.

00:17:17.000 We didn't really understand what was going on at that point.

00:17:21.000 So we did withdraw and stayed sequestered there on the courtyard area in hopes that we were going to be allowed to go back in.

00:17:32.000 Interestingly, we were advised at that point that no police dog would be allowed back in the building.

00:17:37.000 That the search and rescue dogs would be coming in from private sources.

00:17:42.000 So they couldn't trust the Oklahoma City Police, but they'd have some special people coming.

00:17:48.000 I want to get into all the technicals and the horse patrol being mobilized before the bombing and what Terrence Yankee saw and, you know, really the key points here with you, sir.

00:17:57.000 But bottom line, from 16 years of researching this, being in it, and what you know and seeing this film, as a police officer, as an investigator, as a veteran with a lot of different perspectives and wisdom, what do you believe really happened with Oklahoma City Police?

00:18:14.000 I personally believe that there was a secondary explosion.

00:18:17.000 I don't know whether it was sympathetic to the truck explosion and that it was just armament that was stored in the Murrah building.

00:18:27.000 But due to the destructive nature of what occurred, in particular and closer to the East side of the building, on the south side, where there was total destruction.

00:18:40.000 I do believe that there was at least a sympathetic explosion.

00:18:45.000 Exactly.

00:18:46.000 The damage pattern to the building, when you look at it, is asymmetrical to the truck bomb.

00:18:50.000 It's offset from the major damage to the building.

00:18:52.000 The crater is offset from the major bite, as we show in the movie.

00:18:56.000 It's on the other end of the building from it, and we can see it right behind you there.

00:18:59.000 The truck bomb was basically where your shoulder is.

00:19:03.000 Holland, you're a shoulder that's facing inward towards Don, and then if you see back in the corner where the earphone is, where Don is, that's where you had columns blown off at the base, and Parton says that it was specifically charges on those columns.

00:19:19.000 Yes, we interviewed General Partin.

00:19:21.000 I believe one of the first interviews anyone's ever given him on video.

00:19:27.000 And he was a former head of Air Force Weapons Development.

00:19:30.000 He spent 20 years blowing things up for the military and conducting bomb damage analysis.

00:19:34.000 This is his job.

00:19:35.000 He saw what happened in Oklahoma City.

00:19:37.000 He saw the damage.

00:19:38.000 He knew it could not being an ammonium nitrate truck bomb.

00:19:41.000 So he analyzed, did his famous Parton report, which concluded that the columns inside the Murrah building were destroyed due to Brazant's damage, meaning that there were contact explosives on the columns, that the truck bomb was not the sole cause of destruction that day.

00:19:56.000 That truck bomb did do a lot of damage, and it was powerful.

00:19:59.000 But what it would have done to the Murrah building was basically blown in all the windows and damaged the facade.

00:20:04.000 Well, that's what you see in Saudi Arabia with trucks full of military grade, because it just blows the facade off and blows things through the building, sometimes both sides, but the columns are right there.

00:20:15.000 The supporting columns were there, and the Murrah building was constructed in the 70s with bomb resistance in mind, because there was a lot more political instability going on in the post-60s era back then.

00:20:26.000 Yeah, communist bombing stuff.

00:20:28.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:28.000 It was a federal building.

00:20:29.000 It was designed with bombs in mind.

00:20:32.000 And those columns would not have failed due to a truck bomb.

00:20:35.000 That is an impossibility.

00:20:36.000 In fact, the American Society of Civil Engineers was not even allowed on site to do their own analysis.

00:20:42.000 They did an analysis, but they were kept 200 feet back.

00:20:45.000 Well, that's another issue.

00:20:46.000 They blow up the wreckage, more than half the building standing there.

00:20:49.000 They act super suspicious.

00:20:50.000 They threaten people.

00:20:52.000 Hoppy Hoddleburg, police officers, doctors that show up.

00:20:56.000 The ATF's in their full gear like a minute after.

00:21:00.000 As a police officer, Don, watching them act so suspicious, I mean, what does that look like to you?

00:21:04.000 and what did other police officers tell you off record their view was on this?

00:21:09.000 One of the bomb officers was describing to me one of what he thought was one of the secondary devices, and he said that he had a clock real similar to it sitting on his desk, which was just a three-rowed stick and he said that he had a clock real similar to it sitting on his desk, which was just a three-rowed stick of dynamite with

00:21:34.000 And I really was serious about trying to convince me that that's what they thought was a secondary device.

00:21:40.000 And I...

00:21:44.000 Of course, then we got a little more involved in our conversations, and he said that they did find nitrous bobble end caps, other things that would help accelerate the info bomb.

00:21:57.000 Exactly.

00:21:57.000 One of the stories they propagated to cover one of the evacuations that three different bomb squads had mistaken a toy alarm clock as a real bomb, which is ludicrous.

00:22:09.000 And no reason to evacuate the entire building before that could actually be concluded and ascertained on the site.

00:22:14.000 You wouldn't evacuate the building before you actually determined that it was a bomb, especially because there's people inside bleeding out.

00:22:20.000 But you've got pieces of the building blown the opposite direction away from the truck bomb on top of the building across the street.

00:22:28.000 Exactly.

00:22:29.000 That truck bomb exploded on the north side of the building, yet north of that, across the street, there were chunks of the Murrah building that somehow transported themselves against the blast wave of the truck bomb.

00:22:40.000 And that's the thing about this whole story is that it is a conclusive fact that that truck bomb was not the sole cause of agent, yet The cover-up has gone into effect.

00:22:49.000 Everyone on the scene knows that the truck bomb was not the sole cause of destruction.

00:22:54.000 And we see how the mainstream media and the government is able to manipulate a story, take what is actually reality, which is that there were bombs inside the building that did most of the damage, and change it to something else, destroy the crime scene while there were still bodies inside a month after the bombing.

00:23:09.000 They demolished that building.

00:23:11.000 And there were still a number of people in sight.

00:23:13.000 Deceased persons, of course.

00:23:15.000 But they were in such a rush that they wouldn't even recover the bodies.

00:23:19.000 Don was there for that.

00:23:20.000 Right.

00:23:21.000 Right.

00:23:21.000 Yeah, we did pull the... In fact, we had located one of the female victims that we had to leave inside the building on the night of the 4th.

00:23:31.000 And the building was pretty unstable in that area.

00:23:35.000 But rather than trying to shore anything up, we were removed.

00:23:41.000 The building was brought down and we were allowed to go back in the 29th of May and research the area and did locate that lady along with one of her female companion workers and another gentleman that had died in the blast.

00:23:55.000 Wow, I know this is hard to talk about.

00:23:57.000 A lot of key questions we haven't gotten to yet here.

00:24:00.000 Don Browning, retired Oklahoma City police officer, K-9 rescue handler, was there right after one of the first people there on the scene, former U.S.

00:24:07.000 Marine, Vietnam veteran as well.

00:24:09.000 Could you tell us, you've told us about the marshals threatening the police, what about FBI threatening you specifically?

00:24:16.000 Within the weeks that followed after the actual occurrence, FBI agents were assigned to set up a communication station at the Oklahoma City Police K-9 and Equine Center.

00:24:32.000 And they were in and out of our office through the day.

00:24:34.000 Of course, we were supposed to just conduct business as normal.

00:24:37.000 And they were still concluding their investigations.

00:24:41.000 But was told more than once or twice by agents in the area that people like my wife and I would have ended up dead by not going along with what we knew to be true.

00:24:54.000 Wow, so you're a decorated Vietnam veteran, police officer, one of the heroes that responded when there could have been other bombs and was thought there were other bombs, and the FBI agents in the police office are telling you, do what you're told or you and your wife are dead.

00:25:12.000 And you're saying this on record here, sir.

00:25:15.000 Yes, sir.

00:25:17.000 Please elaborate for the millions of listeners exactly what happened.

00:25:20.000 If you'd like to name names, I'm not afraid of these people.

00:25:25.000 As far as names, I really don't know.

00:25:27.000 I do know there was an agent, Jim Height, that had contacted me that was concerned about the health of the dogs right about the same time.

00:25:36.000 His story was that the building had been sprayed with an agent similar to Agent Orange to try to slow decomposition.

00:25:50.000 And that there supposedly was complaints that the odor of the decomp was becoming an issue to the surrounding area in the community.

00:26:00.000 I can't believe it.

00:26:04.000 Again, there were just different things that occurred that just absolutely defied my understanding why they would use something such as Agent Orange.

00:26:14.000 Without warning, I've said what they were doing.

00:26:19.000 But I mean, separately, did they phone call you?

00:26:22.000 I mean, did an agent in the hall say, hey, you better do what you're told or you and your wife are dead?

00:26:27.000 I mean, how would they talk to you?

00:26:29.000 No, it was person to person in the hallway there in the office there at the canine center.

00:26:33.000 So they'd say, do what you're told or you and your wife are dead?

00:26:36.000 Right.

00:26:37.000 And what did you say to that?

00:26:39.000 It wasn't too much, I'd say.

00:26:41.000 A guy yelled right. 0.99

00:26:44.000 I was not, at that time, was really not in a good mood to hear their crap. 0.98

00:26:51.000 I had a major from our department that was telling me that I needed to find new friends and he thought I was part of the militia. 0.98

00:27:00.000 Okay, so they're intimidating you, they're isolating you, and then they're threatening you and your wife in a hallway.

00:27:06.000 I mean, it's so unbelievable.

00:27:09.000 You probably had one of the perpetrators right there with you.

00:27:12.000 I just, oh my God.

00:27:14.000 Well, I mean, that's one of the things about this.

00:27:17.000 When you see the behavior of the federal agents on the scene and afterwards, it makes you question what their mission is entirely.

00:27:26.000 Because they were not responding in a professional manner.

00:27:30.000 They pulled people back to pull off the videotapes.

00:27:33.000 Don, you witnessed that.

00:27:34.000 Yes, I watched while we were being sequestered there in the courtyard, I did watch agents with RAID ATR, I'm sorry, FBI, RAID jackets on.

00:27:45.000 Uh, removing cameras from, video cameras, from the corners of the Murrah Building.

00:27:49.000 Tapes that we've never seen.

00:27:50.000 Those cameras would have recorded everything that happened in front of the Murrah Building.

00:27:53.000 You know, if we are, if we are wrong, and they want to prove it, you know, if you can show the tape that shows McVeigh getting out of that truck, and that truck causing the damage to that building, I'll go home and I'll never talk to you again in my life.

00:28:04.000 Well, they declared national security.

00:28:05.000 Some good FBI agents have gone public.

00:28:07.000 As you know, in the LA Times, nine years ago, they said they've seen the tapes, there's twenty-something of them, and it does show McVeigh with a bunch of other men, and that's why the government doesn't want it released.

00:28:19.000 Exactly, and the Secret Service timeline records that when they looked at the tape, that there were suspects exiting the truck three minutes after it was parked.

00:28:28.000 Plural.

00:28:29.000 That means multiple suspects.

00:28:30.000 But to this day, they insist McVeigh was the only person who drove that truck up.

00:28:35.000 Don Browning mentioned Dana Bradley earlier.

00:28:38.000 During a trial of McVeigh in Denver, they could only produce one witness who could place McVeigh in Oklahoma City.

00:28:43.000 That was Dana Bradley.

00:28:44.000 She lost her children and her mother and her leg in the bombing.

00:28:48.000 She gained some notoriety because she was trapped in the rubble and they had to amputate on site.

00:28:53.000 Under cross-examination, she admitted that when she was in the Social Security office waiting in line, she saw that Ryder truck pull up, Tim McVeigh got out of one side and a suspect, another man, got out of the other side.

00:29:05.000 Under cross-examination, admitted this.

00:29:07.000 And then the federal prosecutors tried to drag her name through the mud and say that she had misremembered the day, that it was another day that she had lost her entire family and her leg, that she saw that Ryder truck pull up with two people.

00:29:20.000 It's just ludicrous and insulting. 0.84

00:29:23.000 Unbelievable. 0.72

00:29:24.000 We have Holland Vanden Neuhoff, investigator, filmmaker, and Don Browning, Oklahoma City police officer, U.S.

00:29:32.000 Marine, Vietnam veteran, was one of the first to be there.

00:29:35.000 We'll talk about Terrence Yankee and his murder.

00:29:38.000 Another police officer that responded.

00:29:40.000 On the other side, folks, I don't like risking my life to expose these people, but we've got to.

00:29:45.000 They're getting ready to do it again.

00:29:46.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:47.000 Stay with us.

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00:33:09.000 Oklahoma City's real simple.

00:33:14.000 The ATF even got a Ryder truck and practiced blowing it up a few months before in New Mexico.

00:33:18.000 That even came out on Discovery Channel.

00:33:21.000 They were embarrassed that they wanted to get anti-terror funding and laws passed that they've now gotten through, of course, in 93.

00:33:28.000 So they torched Waco.

00:33:29.000 That blew up in their face.

00:33:31.000 And so then they carried out Oklahoma City to blame it on domestic groups and on the state's rights movement and to make Bill Clinton look like a victim.

00:33:41.000 He could demonize talk radio and conservatives.

00:33:43.000 And I mean, it was so obvious by their instant response in minutes.

00:33:47.000 It was all scripted.

00:33:50.000 And I remember being in Austin and people were mailing the tapes down and putting them on AXS TV.

00:33:54.000 That's why I went down and got an AXS TV show in 95, was watching the soap opera every week of the tapes mailed down to Patriots from Oklahoma City and the other Patriots locally putting it on with the bombs coming out of the building and General Partin at press conferences and Poppy Heidelberg being threatened and you know all this stuff going on.

00:34:14.000 And then you find out that so many of these other events have been staged, and then to have these police officers killed and threatened and Department of Defense people that were there for bomb disposal threatened.

00:34:26.000 We know where your daughter lives, where your daughter goes to school.

00:34:29.000 Again, ladies and gentlemen, You can say, well, I would, you know, punch him in the nose or whatever, but imagine being in a police headquarters and FBI guys come over when you're walking down the hall and say, you and your wife are going to get him if you don't stop what you're doing.

00:34:43.000 I mean, wow.

00:34:45.000 I mean, why would an FBI agent do that unless they were involved? 0.98

00:34:49.000 I mean, you're now threatening to kill cops and their wives. 0.53

00:34:53.000 That's who runs this government. 0.98

00:34:55.000 And the same crew is in charge now.

00:34:58.000 The guy that's the Attorney General, he was Deputy Attorney General then, and in lawsuits his emails and memos have come out where he's like, April 20th, we gotta get to Oklahoma and this is D-Day, these are quotes, and cover this up.

00:35:12.000 Cover what up?

00:35:15.000 Cover what up?

00:35:18.000 ...happened in Oklahoma City.

00:35:19.000 Eric Holder was in charge of the investigation for the Justice Department.

00:35:23.000 He managed the investigation, later in charge of the Trinidad cover-up, now Attorney General of the United States, and now he has gun walker all over him.

00:35:30.000 This man has killed thousands of people.

00:35:32.000 That's in the headlines now.

00:35:34.000 Why is it so hard to believe that an operation in 1995 killed 168 people?

00:35:40.000 Yes, sir.

00:35:40.000 That's a good point, Mr. Browning.

00:35:43.000 Again, retired Oklahoma City police officer was one of the first to respond.

00:35:46.000 I mean, that's a false flag staged event right there where they weren't just letting them get sold at gun shops.

00:35:52.000 That was the cover.

00:35:52.000 We now know 18 wheelers into Mexico and in the federal cases, drugs back in.

00:35:58.000 I mean, Eric Holder is just a mob boss.

00:36:02.000 Well you were talking about, you had Hoppy Heidelberg on the show earlier this week.

00:36:06.000 You were talking about the threats he received.

00:36:08.000 What's interesting about that is that the FBI agent who threatened Hoppy Heidelberg is named John Hursley.

00:36:13.000 John Hursley was basically the FBI's representative to the prosecution during the trial.

00:36:19.000 John Hursley was there with his partner threatening Hoppy Heidelberg with a gun if he kept on talking about what had happened.

00:36:26.000 Behind closed doors at the grand jury that indicted McVeigh and Nichols and others unknown.

00:36:32.000 John Hursley is now the go-to guy for the History Channel and whoever else wants to do an apology for the official story.

00:36:38.000 John Hursley is there in a suit and tie with the American flag behind him representing the United States government. 0.97

00:36:43.000 That man is a thug. 0.82

00:36:45.000 He threatens people with guns, and he's on TV trying to explain the official story. 0.97

00:36:51.000 In fact, he wrote a book, Ghost wrote a book, about the bombing, about the official story, and the title is called Simple Truths.

00:36:59.000 Simple Truths, which is always what the noble eye is cloaked in, a simple truth.

00:37:06.000 Don, what were you looking into that made FBI agents threaten not only you, but to kill your wife?

00:37:15.000 I was trying to follow up.

00:37:17.000 I had a lot of citizens that was calling, giving information.

00:37:21.000 I was trying to follow through with different tidbits of information I was getting, even from persons such as Jamie Carverdale and Glenn Wilbur and his wife.

00:37:35.000 I felt obligated as a police officer.

00:37:39.000 That we should be looking into all those things and they were pretty frustrated that for the most part they were being ignored or being told it didn't matter.

00:37:51.000 It was similar to like Dana Bradley I mentioned earlier.

00:37:59.000 I was called into the U.S.

00:38:00.000 Attorney's Office and was questioned as to what she said to me the entire time that I was near her. 0.99

00:38:08.000 I wanted to know every if and but, every I, every T. She was groaning. 0.98

00:38:16.000 She was in pain.

00:38:17.000 There was no Noticeable conversation that came from her.

00:38:23.000 They wanted to know what she'd seen and what she'd told you.

00:38:26.000 Exactly.

00:38:27.000 There's a woman pinned under giant girders who lost her leg and they're wanting to know what did she say, what did she say.

00:38:33.000 So as a police officer you're saying the feds were acting super guilty.

00:38:37.000 Yes sir.

00:38:38.000 Yes sir.

00:38:38.000 It was, well I was told at the time that they were going to have to repute what she was saying.

00:38:45.000 Apparently she was delirious due to her injuries and her losses.

00:38:50.000 I bet, yeah.

00:38:51.000 She lost family members again in there.

00:38:54.000 Incredible.

00:38:54.000 Let's talk about Terrence Yeagey.

00:38:56.000 Tell us about this gentleman who was one of the first people along with you to respond, running into the building that had just been devastated.

00:39:05.000 And then what happened to him?

00:39:07.000 Why this is so important?

00:39:09.000 Well, Terry, first off, was a remarkable young man.

00:39:13.000 He was very likable.

00:39:15.000 I did not work with him shoulder to shoulder.

00:39:20.000 Yeah, we made the cover of Newsweek.

00:39:21.000 Police Department.

00:39:22.000 However, I did work a lot of extra jobs and security work with him.

00:39:26.000 Not good friends, but friends enough that especially after the bombing, I would always tease Terry about, man, you're my hero.

00:39:34.000 You know, you're just my hero.

00:39:39.000 Yeah, we made the cover of Newsweek.

00:39:41.000 Right, yeah.

00:39:42.000 Because he hauled a lot of people out, right?

00:39:44.000 Yes, sir.

00:39:45.000 And Terry, bless his heart, right off the bat was concerned because there were so many FBI and ATF agents on the scene, even when he drove up.

00:39:58.000 You drive up and there's feds and their gear running around everywhere.

00:40:02.000 What, 30 seconds after?

00:40:04.000 Yeah, he showed up just minutes after our return ticket.

00:40:06.000 He was the first officer to respond.

00:40:08.000 He pulls up, and there are FBI agents on scene.

00:40:11.000 The FBI headquarters is five miles away.

00:40:14.000 They have no business.

00:40:15.000 Why are ATF agents and FBI agents at the scene of the bombing, sitting there watching what's going on, when the first officer to respond pulls up?

00:40:23.000 Well, they were proud of their work.

00:40:25.000 I mean... Well, there was an operation going on.

00:40:28.000 Yeah, blowing up some kids in a daycare.

00:40:31.000 That's what tough guys do.

00:40:32.000 Well, Don, you were given privy information about a surveillance operation by the FBI that was going on at the time, right?

00:40:40.000 Concerning the vehicle description?

00:40:41.000 Yeah, they always claim that, so when it happens, oh, well, it was a sting, went bad, yeah.

00:40:47.000 Well, no, quite interestingly, the morning of the bombing, as I was in route downtown,

00:40:55.000 They were simulcasting a three vehicle description along with the seven Persian mills that were supposedly occupying these vehicles that they had left on the interstate systems from the Murrah building area and surprisingly we were told that these vehicles were still under surveillance and continued to progress.

00:41:18.000 The FBI said that?

00:41:19.000 Yes.

00:41:19.000 So the FBI told the police that they were watching the suspects?

00:41:25.000 But the building blows up and they don't stop the suspects.

00:41:28.000 No, no.

00:41:29.000 Please don't understand.

00:41:30.000 This supposedly was afterwards.

00:41:31.000 This was supposedly the suspects of the bombing itself.

00:41:35.000 Sure, sure.

00:41:38.000 That went on through all the morning up until about 1.30.

00:41:41.000 At that point I had an opportunity to speak to one of the FBI agents that had kind of slowed to take a break.

00:41:48.000 And asked him what the status was, and was informed at that point that that was disinformation, that it was designed to throw the press off, and was nothing but disinformation.

00:42:03.000 I became very irate at the time, and they were broadcasting this to a five-state area.

00:42:10.000 It was not only throwing all the media off, it was throwing every cop in the world off as well, if this was fictitious information.

00:42:18.000 Well, the perps want to throw folks off.

00:42:20.000 So Terence Yeagy pulls up a minute or so after, and it's crawling with FBI and ATF, and then what happens next?

00:42:29.000 Well, he goes ahead and works with the recovery.

00:42:34.000 From what I understand, over the next few days after that incident, he had started to complain to Janet Reno and to others.

00:42:45.000 about the treatment that he was getting from the FBI agents and also from the fact that there were so many of them on the scene.

00:42:51.000 It was quite concerning to him.

00:42:55.000 We talked a little bit about some of his concerns and some of my concerns, but we both were still, I'd say it still wasn't really that trustworthy even of one another. 0.95

00:43:06.000 It was a time where you really didn't know who you could Sure, if you're not a completely unconscious moron, you pull up and there's, it's like watching a guy run out of a bank with a mask on and a bag of money, you know. 0.91

00:43:20.000 You pull up and there's feds running around in their full gear right after it happens. 0.97

00:43:25.000 You're like, well, what's going on?

00:43:26.000 They're like, oh, nothing.

00:43:27.000 In fact, there were doctors and people there who they would say, patch me up.

00:43:31.000 I was up on the ninth floor and the doctors are like, Well, there's nothing wrong with you.

00:43:34.000 You weren't up there.

00:43:35.000 And he's like, well, you're going to end up dead if you don't do what I say. 0.94

00:43:38.000 I mean, this death threatening.

00:43:40.000 I just can't imagine people just, I'm a fed and I'm going to death threat police and everybody else because I'm God. 0.98

00:43:45.000 I mean, it sounds like a bunch of lunatics.

00:43:49.000 Yeah, it was interesting, like I said, with Terry in that when Terry died, He was not treated as a normal police officer. 0.69

00:44:00.000 There was no autopsy performed.

00:44:04.000 He, of course, was viewed by a medical examiner and they did complete the death certificate and follow-up reports.

00:44:15.000 But no autopsy, nothing to describe why the injuries that Terry had suffered.

00:44:24.000 Where they came from or what type of injuries those were.

00:44:27.000 But we do have, thanks to Col.

00:44:29.000 Craig Roberts going from memory, we do have the basic medical examiner's drawings and of course you guys have talked to some of the witnesses and some of the sheriff's department I know from the county over that did show up reportedly.

00:44:41.000 And to go over this in detail, the feds are like digging dirt up.

00:44:45.000 Terence Yegge's obviously been tortured.

00:44:48.000 I mean as a police officer, go over what happened to him.

00:44:51.000 Terry had numerous lacerations on his wrist, across his elbows, on both arms.

00:44:59.000 He had a long cut that began just underneath his right ear and extended past his Adam's apple.

00:45:07.000 There was another small hesitation cut on the left side of his throat.

00:45:14.000 You think that was when they were just threatening to slit his throat to get the answers of where the stuff was?

00:45:18.000 Well, I was towed by the district attorney when I went to the grand jury that was due to EMTs trying to save Jerry's life.

00:45:25.000 Oh.

00:45:27.000 And of course, he'd been dead... Well, I mean, let's go over... I mean, let's talk about how he died, because, I mean, he was telling his partner, I got feds behind me last time he was heard from, right?

00:45:35.000 Terry was transporting documents and evidence that he had collected.

00:45:40.000 He called his friend, the police officer said, let's meet for dinner as soon as I shake these feds who are following me will meet. 0.90

00:45:47.000 Terry went to El Reno.

00:45:49.000 Terry grew up in El Reno, Oklahoma.

00:45:50.000 He knew all the back roads and his car is found on federal property.

00:45:56.000 El Reno has a federal prison.

00:45:57.000 The reason the federal government was able to come in and take control of the investigation was that his body was found on federal land.

00:46:03.000 Yeah, so they did that again.

00:46:04.000 Wow.

00:46:05.000 Exactly.

00:46:06.000 And when he had handcuff marks on his wrists, there was mud packed into his wounds.

00:46:12.000 There was no way he could have drug himself through the mud a mile and a half, through creeks and trees, while bleeding, and then decide to shoot himself at an angle at the top of his head, coming out the lower part of his jaw.

00:46:25.000 Sure, so let me ask this.

00:46:26.000 Cops, everybody shows up.

00:46:28.000 I mean, you talk about the county shows up, and they said, yeah, the feds were covering it up, and the police all just stand around and, well, they killed him.

00:46:33.000 That's, I mean, because all the police we've talked to, yeah, they killed him.

00:46:36.000 And I guess that's just what, feds are God. 0.76

00:46:39.000 They want to kill cops? 0.98

00:46:39.000 Go ahead, you know. 0.98

00:46:41.000 Well that's what was interesting to me at that point was anytime we had a police officer involved in an automobile accident or anything outside of the city limits, the city still sent investigative officers out to investigate the accident if nothing else to supplement whatever agency did do the investigation.

00:47:03.000 With Terry, basically our agency just washed their hands of it and turned it completely over to the FBI.

00:47:12.000 Yeah, whenever a police officer dies in Oklahoma City, there's always an autopsy.

00:47:15.000 A couple years ago, a police officer died in a car wreck, and there was no question about why he had died.

00:47:20.000 He was on duty.

00:47:21.000 He was responding to a call.

00:47:22.000 They still performed an autopsy, yet they find a police officer just a couple years before, in a field, cut, bleeding.

00:47:30.000 A year after he's the hero of Oklahoma City on the cover of Newsweek and police officer of the year.

00:47:36.000 Shot in the head, and they do not perform an autopsy.

00:47:40.000 Once again, it does not hold up to scrutiny at all.

00:47:42.000 Well, who was this police chief? 0.98

00:47:45.000 I mean, who is either purely wicked or the biggest coward on the planet. 0.80

00:47:50.000 He was a, Chief Gonzalez was from the Dallas Fort Worth area. 0.88

00:47:54.000 He had been on Dallas PD prior to his being hired with Oklahoma City.

00:47:58.000 He really didn't have connections to Oklahoma City and would frequently leave for two weekends to go play golf in Dallas.

00:48:09.000 I really never did feel like he was a portion of our department at all.

00:48:13.000 So he was just a placeholder?

00:48:16.000 Yes, sir.

00:48:17.000 He was also a young patrolman in Dallas on November 22, 1963.

00:48:20.000 Oh, really?

00:48:25.000 So he's a very trustworthy person?

00:48:27.000 I don't know if he had any involvement with that, but that is his background.

00:48:32.000 I like Dan rather.

00:48:33.000 Okay, continuing here, there's a lot of other points here that are important.

00:48:38.000 Can you tell us about the horse patrol being mobilized for crowd control prior to the bombing?

00:48:44.000 Yes, sir.

00:48:45.000 Again, that was one of the things that kind of surprised me.

00:48:47.000 The horse patrol basically, through the week, did not patrol any area.

00:48:53.000 They maybe once or twice One or two of the officers would saddle up and they would go into the stockyards area.

00:49:03.000 Horses are for special events, right?

00:49:05.000 I mean, big crowds.

00:49:05.000 Yes, sir.

00:49:07.000 Interestingly, they had, anytime we did work a big event, they would have the county reserve would also come in and supplement with horses and manpower and they would act out together.

00:49:21.000 The morning of the bombing, the horse patrol was going downtown in force.

00:49:29.000 They claim they really don't know why they were going down there.

00:49:31.000 It wasn't necessary for crowd control.

00:49:33.000 They were just going down to work the downtown area.

00:49:37.000 This was about a week before what we were scheduled to have an art festival.

00:49:44.000 That would mandate it that they would have had to be there so it was it they were they were coming up on some time frame where a lot of overtime was going to be required so it's kind of surprising that they would just out of the blue decide to gather and go downtown to do this this quite large work patrol there was probably Somewhere between 8 to 10 riders and horses that were en route.

00:50:09.000 Was that order to settle up given before the bombing?

00:50:13.000 Yes sir, they were actually leaving and would have already been downtown by the time the bomb went off according to one of the supervisors.

00:50:20.000 Had it not been for one of our officers was slow in getting ready and they were just pulling out of the K-9 Deployment Center when the bomb detonated.

00:50:30.000 Alright, when we come back, I'm going to ask you, what do the rank-and-file Oklahoma City Police think 16, 17 years after this tragedy that's been used to butcher the Bill of Rights and Constitution?

00:50:40.000 This is another super disgusting thing we have to discuss, but I mean, it's only going to get worse if we don't wake up to false flag terror.

00:50:50.000 Don Browning, retired Oklahoma City Police officer, one of the first on the scene as our guest, along with one of the filmmakers, Holland Vanden Neuwenhoff.

00:50:58.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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00:54:03.000 All the leaves are brown.

00:54:04.000 And the sky is gray.

00:54:07.000 You know, I am a father.

00:54:08.000 I have three great children.

00:54:10.000 I love my wife.

00:54:10.000 I love life.

00:54:12.000 And I've been threatened.

00:54:13.000 I've been beat up before when I was exposing the Waco situation in the trial and bullhorning the judge.

00:54:19.000 And they sent five guys, four of them attacked me, beat me up pretty bad, but I beat them up too in a parking lot, telling me, shut up.

00:54:26.000 They broke my nose and punched me. 0.78

00:54:27.000 I mean, and that, but you know what?

00:54:29.000 That was when I knew how real this was.

00:54:32.000 Okay?

00:54:33.000 And the federal government is run by a bunch of criminals now who just think that we're here to be doormats and our property, our children, belong to them.

00:54:43.000 And we can beat these people, but let me tell you, living in denial, this isn't about just criticizing the government and we come up with fanciful tales.

00:54:51.000 This is a police officer who was there and saw all this, who had FBI agents threaten to kill him and his wife.

00:54:57.000 Other cops got killed.

00:54:58.000 Doctors got killed.

00:54:59.000 Grand jurors got threatened. 0.96

00:55:01.000 These are, FBI comes to your house with guns and says, shut your mouth.

00:55:05.000 Then people come and say, you're dead if you keep this up.

00:55:10.000 This is what they do.

00:55:11.000 I mean, and somebody's got a column on it.

00:55:15.000 Somebody's got to realize it.

00:55:17.000 This country, I mean, they are now announcing they're going to use the military against the American people.

00:55:22.000 We get, the Department of Defense contact, Joe Joseph calls us and says, have you seen this?

00:55:26.000 This is on the federal government's own website.

00:55:29.000 And then they pull it, where they call the American people the enemy, the red group, and the government is the blue group.

00:55:36.000 And I mean, the general public is listed as the enemy.

00:55:39.000 That's not the American government!

00:55:41.000 You got police officers questioning and they go, we think you're in a militia, implying they were involved in it because they're asking questions.

00:55:50.000 You cannot control reality by being delusional.

00:55:53.000 You can't just say, oh, this couldn't be true like the awesome police chief said two weeks ago when I was talking to him privately. 0.99

00:55:59.000 And I looked in his eyes and I could tell he's not stupid. 0.94

00:56:02.000 He says he listens to the show. 0.99

00:56:03.000 He knows.

00:56:05.000 And he said some things privately to me.

00:56:07.000 I'll give him more trouble not saying what he said.

00:56:09.000 He didn't say it's off record.

00:56:10.000 He's just like, yeah, I'll probably never get promoted above Austin because I'm even on your show, but I don't care anymore.

00:56:16.000 Alex, I know you're a good guy.

00:56:17.000 I'll see you later.

00:56:18.000 But the point is, that's not enough.

00:56:21.000 I can tell our police chief's a real person.

00:56:24.000 You've got to choose what side you're on.

00:56:26.000 In closing, Don Browning, and people can get the film, which people have given their lives, for you to be able to know this information, nobellie.infowars.com.

00:56:33.000 Get it out to everybody.

00:56:34.000 In the two or three minutes we've got left, with you and Holland, Vanden Neuwenhoff, what do the other police officers around you say?

00:56:40.000 Or, I mean, do they just give in to the big lie?

00:56:44.000 It's interesting.

00:56:47.000 It's kind of a combination of both where some are literally scared to death.

00:56:56.000 Terry Yakey's good buddy at one point met me shortly after Terry had died, told me that I was on the right track to please keep on pushing.

00:57:06.000 Terry deserved that, but he couldn't help me.

00:57:13.000 Officer for the most part do, or at least at this point starting to finally come out with the feelings and emotions that they did not eat the story, they didn't battle it, but they did not eat the information that was handed out to us.

00:57:28.000 Why didn't you guys just, why didn't you guys get together and circle the wagons and say we got guns too, you wanna threaten us?

00:57:36.000 At the time of the circling of the wagons, I don't think we felt like there was enough of us to circle even half of the circle, so we hit them.

00:57:43.000 Well, there wasn't at the Alamo either, but we appreciate your incredible courage, sir.

00:57:48.000 But sometimes it takes some of us getting wiped out so other people can see, and then that's when we get the victory.

00:57:53.000 Well, it was interesting.

00:57:54.000 I'll share a comment that Stephen Jones made when I was up at McVeigh's trial.

00:58:00.000 Jones came to me.

00:58:02.000 He had been part of the Roger Dale Stafford defense team when Roger Dale Stafford had committed the surveillance stockade murders.

00:58:10.000 And I had testified in that case as well.

00:58:14.000 And I shook my head as I was walking up towards him, coming back to the hotel.

00:58:19.000 And he stopped me and he says, you know, only four or five Oklahoma City homicide detectives would investigate this.

00:58:27.000 We'd have this solved in two or three days.

00:58:31.000 I tell you what, sir, we're out of time, but you've been gracious enough to be on the nightly news tonight.

00:58:35.000 I want to start over where we left off here.

00:58:37.000 Incredible.

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00:59:54.000 You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.

01:00:03.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.

01:00:07.000 You want answers?

01:00:09.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:10.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:15.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:19.000 Okay, our caller here, our caller here, Angie in North Carolina.

01:00:41.000 I've been talking to her a little bit off air.

01:00:43.000 And so the reason she knows about the stuff and knows where to find it is she knows some of the inside baseball.

01:00:48.000 She sent us an email.

01:00:50.000 We never got it.

01:00:51.000 That's why we found the thing from May or June dealing with the FEMA camps being activated.

01:00:57.000 She sent us where there's Red Force, Blue Force. 0.98

01:01:01.000 And how to communicate with the Blue Force against the Red Force. 0.77

01:01:05.000 This is for camps with military operations in the U.S.

01:01:09.000 That's 100% with the barricades and all the rest of it.

01:01:12.000 That's a FEMA camp run by the military against the citizens.

01:01:15.000 And they're already announcing they want to use troops against us.

01:01:17.000 So it's on.

01:01:18.000 They're getting ready for the collapse.

01:01:19.000 We're going to find it right now.

01:01:21.000 I'm going to type it into Google myself.

01:01:23.000 Right now, Angie.

01:01:24.000 So slowly give me the name of the document right now.

01:01:30.000 Okay, the name of the actual PDF file, you can either search for the title, or the PDF document is P-A-M-S-S.

01:01:40.000 Yeah, yeah, don't give me the long PDF document name.

01:01:43.000 It's called Statement of Work.

01:01:46.000 It's kind of long.

01:01:48.000 For Federal... Hold on, Statement of Work.

01:01:50.000 I don't type fast.

01:01:51.000 Statement of Work.

01:01:52.000 For Federal Emergency Management Agency.

01:01:57.000 Federal Emergen...

01:02:00.000 C, Federal Emergency Management Agency.

01:02:03.000 It's spelled out?

01:02:04.000 Right.

01:02:05.000 Management Agency, okay.

01:02:09.000 National Continuity Program, and then in parentheses after that, NCP.

01:02:16.000 That's what they call these contracts, NCP.

01:02:20.000 MCP?

01:02:21.000 N, like National Continuity Programs, the initials, NCP.

01:02:25.000 I gotta erase it, I already, okay.

01:02:27.000 NCP.

01:02:27.000 Yes, Program.

01:02:32.000 And then in parenthesis right after that it's P-A-M-S-S. 0.89

01:02:43.000 P-A-M? 0.98

01:02:45.000 M-S-S. 0.99

01:02:46.000 Yes, the Program Emission Support Services.

01:02:48.000 Okay, okay, the guys have found it and uh... It's November 18th, 2011.

01:02:52.000 That's the date on the document.

01:02:54.000 We did find it good.

01:02:55.000 Yeah, your email must not have made it through to us last time, but thank God we found the old one.

01:02:59.000 And unfortunately, now two of these have been out.

01:03:01.000 People never pay attention to the third piece of info in the investigation, even though it's the most important.

01:03:06.000 Specifically for us, where do we find the part about blue and red forces?

01:03:11.000 I'm sorry, say that again, Alex?

01:03:12.000 Where do you find the part about blue and red forces?

01:03:14.000 Do a control F, blue.

01:03:17.000 Part of the operations that the contractors are responsible for providing are like communication systems and so on.

01:03:24.000 And if you scroll down, it's under the title, um... Operations Division.

01:03:34.000 Operations Division, showing this is military.

01:03:37.000 It's at the bottom of page 2 of 22.

01:03:40.000 It's the bottom of page... where?

01:03:44.000 Operations Division starts at the bottom of page 2 of 22, and then it continues on, on page 3.

01:03:51.000 And on page 3 is where it says, uh, other efforts of the Operations Division include initiatives such as Operation Rendezvous, Task Force Rendezvous, the development and integration of the Federal Emergency Response Official Repository System, National Security Special Event Contingency Support, Disaster Relief, Humanitarian Assistance.

01:04:17.000 Additional efforts of the Ops Division include Geospatial Information Systems, Blue Force Situational Awareness, Continuity Analysis, and Command Control and Communications Computing.

01:04:30.000 Yeah, so that's the military running the emergency camps.

01:04:33.000 And then where is the Blue Force, Red Force, Command of Blue Force?

01:04:39.000 Well, it's right there in that line there.

01:04:42.000 It says Blue Force Situational Awareness. 0.55

01:04:45.000 All right, Blue Force situational awareness.

01:04:48.000 Holy mackerel.

01:04:48.000 Yeah, we found it.

01:04:49.000 That's the military waging war against the American people and putting us in FEMA camps.

01:04:53.000 Absolute smoking gunned FEMA. 1.00

01:04:56.000 Oh my God.

01:04:59.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.

01:05:03.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

01:05:06.000 As we're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.

01:05:11.000 I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

01:05:18.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?

01:05:21.000 They're arsonists!

01:05:21.000 Bernanke?

01:05:22.000 They're asking for more matches!

01:05:23.000 The foal of the republic identifies the enemies of our nation.

01:05:26.000 The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.

01:05:33.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.

01:05:35.000 They're asking for more matches.

01:05:36.000 And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?

01:05:39.000 Today seems like nobody does care.

01:05:41.000 And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the republic.

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01:08:10.000 Alright, if you just joined us, I just got completely blown away.

01:08:15.000 It was Nancy, the caller, who called us, I guess on Monday.

01:08:25.000 And said, yeah, you found the Halliburton documents where they're now going to man the FEMA camps that even Wall Street Journal admits they built in 96, or 2006, excuse me.

01:08:35.000 But do you know about the Department of Defense master order?

01:08:39.000 And then we got hit by so many emails.

01:08:41.000 We didn't get hers or lost it.

01:08:44.000 People pointed out June where they were doing purchase orders.

01:08:47.000 The one she tried to send us and that she just called in and mentioned that we just pulled up on screen is on Homeland Security's website.

01:08:54.000 It admits the military and the NSA is going to run it and talks about the military, the stockades, the Barricades and Blue Force communications against the Red Force.

01:09:07.000 Now that's all code, but I've been to the Urban Warfare Drills and I was talking to her off air and I said, well, how do you know?

01:09:13.000 Because that means certainly Red Force, Blue Force, the command and communication of their Blue Force, that's military parlance for war. 0.74

01:09:19.000 That's how they call themselves generally the Blue Force.

01:09:21.000 I've been to Marine Corps drills where they've got it all up on big satellite projections of where the troops are, Blue Force, Red Force, where they're training to take on, quote, the militias in San Francisco and Oakland.

01:09:33.000 I shot that in 99, Operation Urban Warrior.

01:09:35.000 And she said, well, I mean, she knows about it because she's there, folks.

01:09:41.000 This is people in the, well, she's...

01:09:43.000 She said she'd stay on hold.

01:09:45.000 I'm not going to say much more than that.

01:09:47.000 We've got a guest already scheduled, but I'm going to have her pop in at the bottom of the hour.

01:09:54.000 Getting all this up on, we had to go to Skype to get our guest on, so we're pulling it up on another computer, highlighting it all, but I read it there on screen.

01:10:00.000 If you were watching PrisonPlanet.tv, you saw me.

01:10:03.000 This is the Homeland Security FEMA website, Department of Defense bid system, and it's super ultra creepy and really upsets me because you've got the state reps calling for martial law in Illinois and on CNN and in New Orleans, in Chicago and New Orleans.

01:10:22.000 You've got the calls for checkpoints to be set up all over the country.

01:10:26.000 You've got the NDAA passing and saying we'll use the military against citizens.

01:10:31.000 We found C-SPAN video from last Thursday where they talk about killing U.S.

01:10:35.000 citizens.

01:10:37.000 I mean, that's going to be on the nightly news tonight.

01:10:39.000 My head is even spinning.

01:10:42.000 This is a giant buildup for war against us, and I was really impressed a few weeks ago when I was talking about the NDAA.

01:10:51.000 On the biggest overnight talk show in the country, second biggest in the world, Coast to Coast AM, and they had a Greg Hunter on after me.

01:11:01.000 I can't remember if it was before me.

01:11:02.000 The point is I heard him on the show.

01:11:04.000 And he heads up usawatchdog.com.

01:11:06.000 I've seen some of their great reports, but the way he understood it all, tied it all in, where he saw the world going, before creating and producing the site, where he spent nine years as a network investigative correspondent.

01:11:17.000 He worked for ABC News and Good Morning America.

01:11:19.000 He's a great journalist.

01:11:21.000 Most recently, Greg worked for CNN for shows such as Paula Zahn, American Morning, and various CNN business shows.

01:11:26.000 Greg's a hard-hitting reporter who has a history of getting the truth out no matter how difficult the subject.

01:11:31.000 USAWatchdog.com.

01:11:32.000 Now Greg, obviously you being in the media know about breaking news.

01:11:35.000 I am on the Department of Defense site during the break.

01:11:38.000 The caller calls in and says, I already tried to give this to you once.

01:11:41.000 Look at it.

01:11:42.000 It talks about FEMA camps being manned by the Department of Defense contractors and military and Red Force in combat with Blue Force.

01:11:51.000 What do you make of that breaking news?

01:11:54.000 Well, here's why.

01:11:57.000 We're still coming down, because if you just look at the numbers of what they're doing and the people and what they're saying, just out in the general press, I don't try to do anything other than really just analyze the news and things that Christine Lagarde, the head of the IMF, has said recently that things are intensifying, that they're not only unfolding, but they're intensifying.

01:12:18.000 This is what she's saying in the press.

01:12:20.000 On top of it, you know, you have the old Dominic Strauss-Kahn, the former chief of the IMF, who's saying basically they have a growth problem, they have a debt problem, the EU has a leadership problem, and he only gives it weeks.

01:12:33.000 Now, they just dumped a bunch of money into that bailout fund, but if you believe the people who handle money for a living, the $500 billion they put in it, or $600 billion, whatever it is so far, this is what they're reporting, who knows what they're doing behind the scenes.

01:12:47.000 But if you take a look at people who handle money for a living, they say it's going to cost trillions.

01:12:52.000 That it just looks like this is going to collapse.

01:12:55.000 And this is how we got all of our debt, incidentally, over the last 30 years.

01:12:59.000 That we would just continually borrow money and borrow money and borrow money and create more debt.

01:13:04.000 And nobody ever intends to pay this off.

01:13:06.000 Obviously, it's unbelievable amounts of debt in the hundreds of trillions of dollars.

01:13:10.000 Just derivatives alone, according to the Bank of International Settlements, have grown $100 trillion.

01:13:17.000 So what that tells me is they're giving, they're handling the debt situation with more debt.

01:13:22.000 And incidentally, this money in Europe, they're not paying anything off.

01:13:25.000 They're giving people more loans, debt.

01:13:27.000 They're putting debt on top of debt.

01:13:30.000 And this is a humongous problem.

01:13:32.000 And by the numbers, by the math of it, I just don't see how it stays afloat, just by the numbers on the face of it, the whole worldwide economy.

01:13:42.000 Well, I totally agree with you.

01:13:47.000 I'm just dumbfounded by the sense that you're speaking here.

01:13:52.000 In fact, I have the article you mentioned from AFP and Breitbart.

01:13:58.000 World economy at a very dangerous juncture, IMF chief, and just last Friday she said this could be a repeat of the 1930s.

01:14:07.000 For those that don't know what that means, that means global depression.

01:14:11.000 Depressionary Depression, but back then it was a whole totally different scenario than we have now.

01:14:15.000 I mean, they let things collapse back then.

01:14:18.000 And money retained value.

01:14:20.000 The dollar, two things in the Great Depression never were questioned.

01:14:25.000 And number one thing in the Great Depression was the U.S. dollar.

01:14:27.000 Now, I know a lot of people are afraid the euro is going to collapse and they're going to run back in that dollar and gold is coming down some.

01:14:33.000 But the dollar was never in question there.

01:14:35.000 The other second thing was the credit rating of the United States was never in question.

01:14:39.000 And both those things have come into question.

01:14:42.000 The veracity of the dollar as it's declining.

01:14:45.000 Also, our credit rating has been cut.

01:14:47.000 Even though it's only been, you know, one grade, it's still, we no longer have the top credit rating.

01:14:52.000 They're threatening to cut the credit rating of France.

01:14:55.000 Threatening to cut their credit rating of the UK.

01:14:59.000 All this is about the bankers making crazy, reckless, and I think in some cases fraudulent loans and bets.

01:15:08.000 And they don't want to take a hit.

01:15:09.000 They don't want to take a loss.

01:15:11.000 They want to kick the can down the road. 0.91

01:15:12.000 Ting, ting, ting.

01:15:13.000 And they want to instill all this austerity.

01:15:19.000 And they want people to pay them back their money.

01:15:22.000 And they don't want to take loss.

01:15:23.000 My goodness, they want another bonus this year, because after all, they have to pay to retain that talent.

01:15:28.000 You know, the talent that almost destroyed the entire world economy.

01:15:32.000 And we still know we're out of this.

01:15:34.000 And that's the thing that the mainstream media just really doesn't report on.

01:15:38.000 That's one of my specialties, is what does the mainstream media tell people?

01:15:42.000 And they don't really lie.

01:15:44.000 And you probably have read into this.

01:15:45.000 They don't really lie.

01:15:46.000 I don't want to say that.

01:15:48.000 What they do is they just simply don't cover it.

01:15:51.000 They simply ignore it.

01:15:52.000 They lie by omission.

01:15:54.000 Or they bury it in the article, or they spin it.

01:15:58.000 I just did a story with the USA Today newspaper.

01:16:01.000 I used to work for Gannett.

01:16:03.000 It was just a few days ago.

01:16:05.000 I called it oblivious because of mainstream media.

01:16:10.000 And people are completely and totally in the dark.

01:16:14.000 And basically they're... I was reading the story on USA Today just last week.

01:16:18.000 I was reading the story and I said, well this isn't really a fair and balanced, you know, this isn't a objective news story about the economy.

01:16:26.000 They ought to write an op-ed piece on this.

01:16:29.000 Because, you know, here they are talking about the economy.

01:16:31.000 And listen, they're facts they use.

01:16:33.000 Yes, car sales are up.

01:16:35.000 Yes, the home sales are up.

01:16:36.000 But in reference, they're bottom bouncing from being off 75%.

01:16:41.000 So they're just bouncing along the bottom.

01:16:42.000 And home prices are falling.

01:16:46.000 And this is with the government suppressing interest rates to unbelievable lows, down to around 4%.

01:16:53.000 But anyway, real estate is a huge factor in the trouble the economy is in.

01:16:58.000 I mean, we've got this foreclosure fraud, they called it robo-shiny.

01:17:02.000 It was nothing more than basically creating fraudulent documents so banks could go to court and take back houses that they should have never loaned money on in the first place.

01:17:12.000 Listen, a RealtyTrack story came out and more than 4 million foreclosures are now in the pipeline.

01:17:19.000 And so they're doing a story about the overall economy, not a word about the 4 million foreclosures in the pipeline.

01:17:26.000 They're actually saying, wow, real estate could actually contribute to the economy in 2012.

01:17:31.000 Really?

01:17:32.000 With 4 million foreclosures, more than 4 million foreclosures in the pipeline according to RealtyTrack?

01:17:39.000 It's unbelievable the amount of omission that they have.

01:17:42.000 I mean, they wrote this so their advertisers in the newspaper will feel good about the Christmas season and, hey, you know, you guys, this is my conjecture, hey, you guys at USA Today, hey, you know, we're trying to sell things here.

01:17:55.000 Don't come out with a negative article two weeks before Christmas.

01:17:58.000 Exactly, and then they're using the irrational exuberance and the smokescreen to continue down the same derivatives path, the bailouts the banks have been given, they're only using to leverage it even more, so it's going to make things worse.

01:18:11.000 It's not like we're saying, let's be negative, but meanwhile...

01:18:15.000 I've confirmed, and obviously you see it all over the news now, but they are getting the military ready to be on the streets of America.

01:18:21.000 Obviously, the system knows there's going to be a total collapse, and it's going to be 100 times worse when the general public has no idea this is coming.

01:18:31.000 I mean, if we had the incredible homelessness in the Great Depression with people that were pretty much self-sufficient What's going to happen when, let's face it, a lot of spoiled rotten people... I mean, this is scary.

01:18:44.000 This is scary.

01:18:45.000 Well, and I think what's going to happen with these, and I get it for the longest time, and I was like, oh come on, FEMA can't.

01:18:50.000 Well, you know, I hate to say this, but these people have to be as smart as me.

01:18:57.000 I don't have any great degrees in accounting, I'm not an economist, I'm an investigative reporter by trade, which is a trade I've learned, and I applied my investigative reporting skills to the economy.

01:19:07.000 And basically what I do is I look at what's out there and go, what can I prove?

01:19:11.000 What can I nail?

01:19:13.000 What can I put out there and prove?

01:19:15.000 And there's so much out there, Alex, by the numbers that you can prove from very good sources that say, you know, we have $12 trillion, Alex, $12 trillion liquid dollar assets held outside the country, according to John Williams, an economist at ShadowStats.com.

01:19:32.000 I think you know who he is.

01:19:33.000 Now, can you imagine what kind of debacle could happen if people all of a sudden wake up and realize that the people around the globe are selling these dollar assets?

01:19:43.000 Do you understand what kind of calamity and inflation... Yeah, let's talk about that exactly.

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01:23:59.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Alex Jones here, back live, short segment, long segment, coming up with Greg Hunter, USAWatchDog.com.

01:24:06.000 I knew when I heard him on air.

01:24:07.000 Just amazing information, spot on.

01:24:09.000 And it's really great to have him here.

01:24:11.000 Hopefully he can pop in every month or so to give us updates on his research.

01:24:15.000 But listen, I'm not trying to be sensational here.

01:24:17.000 I've got children.

01:24:19.000 I've got a wife.

01:24:20.000 I wish when I went to Urban Warfare Drills 12 years ago I didn't witness Marines training to take on U.S.

01:24:25.000 militias.

01:24:26.000 But I shot video of it.

01:24:27.000 It's not my word.

01:24:29.000 But I knew it was long-term then.

01:24:29.000 It's in Police State 2000.

01:24:32.000 They were just beta testing.

01:24:33.000 I've got family in the military.

01:24:35.000 They say everybody, officers, you name it, is being trained for crowd control the last three years.

01:24:40.000 So they're gearing up.

01:24:41.000 And now I just read the documents on the Department of Defense site and FEMA.

01:24:45.000 And that business federal filing site where you file for contracts is on three sites that the caller pointed out where it talks about the military manning FEMA camps and Blue Force situation command and control against Red Force here in America.

01:25:00.000 Now, folks, that is military wage and war against the American people.

01:25:03.000 I'm sorry, Greg Hunter, you were making a point about an investigative journalist looking at all these pieces.

01:25:08.000 Please continue.

01:25:09.000 Well, listen, I'm like you, Alex.

01:25:12.000 I don't want to be sensational.

01:25:13.000 You know, whenever we did stories at ABC and CNN, people would come to us and say, hey, I've got this story.

01:25:19.000 And it's about such-and-such.

01:25:20.000 And I would say, you know what?

01:25:20.000 I believe you.

01:25:21.000 How do I prove it?

01:25:23.000 How do I prove that X amount of cars are killing people?

01:25:25.000 Or how do I prove that depleted uranium is so terrible?

01:25:28.000 And how do I prove that?

01:25:30.000 And if I could prove it, I could do it.

01:25:31.000 So I'll only do what I can prove.

01:25:33.000 Let's go back to the banking system.

01:25:34.000 And here's why.

01:25:35.000 If you take a look at the big picture, People don't realize.

01:25:38.000 Everybody thinks 2008 we were saved.

01:25:40.000 We were not saved.

01:25:41.000 We were postponed.

01:25:42.000 They spent $16 trillion according to a government accountability report.

01:25:47.000 Thank you, Bernie Sanders, for slipping that into the bill last year so we could audit the Federal Reserve for what they did.

01:25:54.000 $16 trillion.

01:25:54.000 You know, you heard about the more than $7 trillion given to the banks, but $16 trillion.

01:25:59.000 Anybody report on that in the mainstream media?

01:26:02.000 That's not a story?

01:26:04.000 I have friends of mine still in the mainstream media, and I say, that's not a story?

01:26:07.000 That's a government accountability report?

01:26:10.000 That's not something filed by some guy in Montana living in some cave.

01:26:14.000 This is the GAO, and it was put into a bill by a US, sitting US senator from Vermont, and we found out they spent or doled out $16 trillion in the wake of this, and we still have a problem.

01:26:26.000 And do you know, Alex, why I think we still have a problem?

01:26:30.000 Because they're not using the money to fix the problem, and it's too big to ever fix.

01:26:33.000 It's too big, not enough money.

01:26:35.000 And I wrote a piece when I first went on.

01:26:37.000 My site has been on.

01:26:38.000 You've been on for 10, 15 years.

01:26:40.000 But I've only been on for a couple of years, and one of my first pieces was default option.

01:26:44.000 And I said, we should just take the banks to receivership.

01:26:47.000 That doesn't fire everybody.

01:26:48.000 Well, Ron Paul has said that.

01:26:49.000 It's impossible to pay off a black hole.

01:26:51.000 We should take the banks to receivership.

01:26:53.000 We should protect only the depositors.

01:26:56.000 We should, the bondholders, sorry, you get some.

01:27:00.000 The shareholders, you're poof, you made a bad investment.

01:27:03.000 Depositors, that's your capital base, that's capital formation.

01:27:06.000 It would only cost us six trillion dollars.

01:27:08.000 Six trillion.

01:27:09.000 We could have insured everything.

01:27:12.000 Instead, we've got to pay off the banks for their gambling.

01:27:15.000 It's unbelievable!

01:27:16.000 And they, as you said, you hit the key.

01:27:19.000 They want it all.

01:27:20.000 They're going to keep getting bailouts.

01:27:22.000 They run the government, and they've got the military.

01:27:24.000 In Europe standing by, and here, the military now works for the big megabanks to squeeze it out of us.

01:27:32.000 You know how serious the problem is that most people in the mainstream media watch, you know, CNBC and some of the stuff they do, like I quote stuff from CNBC about really track, okay, some of the stuff they do is good, it's good actionable information, but again, you know, they basically omit, they lie by omission.

01:27:47.000 How do you omit when you're doing an analysis of a bank, okay, and I'm not an economist and I don't analyze banks.

01:27:55.000 But how do you analyze a bank that's allowed to lie?

01:27:58.000 This problem is so big, they changed the accounting standards, the Financial Accounting Standards Board, the FASB standards, in April of 2009.

01:28:06.000 You can change it.

01:28:08.000 They can value these Tier 3 assets, you know, real estate, mortgage-backed securities, whatever they think they'll get for them in the future.

01:28:15.000 Now, you think about that.

01:28:16.000 Wow!

01:28:17.000 We think we'll get par value for the houses we have and these securities that weren't bought by the Federal Reserve.

01:28:23.000 And any money we bring in, whoo-hoo, let's pay ourselves a bonus!

01:28:27.000 And that's what's going on.

01:28:28.000 So this problem was so big they couldn't just pump out $16 trillion.

01:28:33.000 No, they've got to allow them, and also corporate America, you know, it's the banks that mostly get this financial accounting standards board treatment where they can value these assets, these toxic assets, whatever they think they can get for them in the future as long as they're not bought by the Fed and the taxpayers.

01:28:48.000 So, if they're allowed to do that, it must be an awful big problem.

01:28:51.000 And also corporate America, they say, oh, corporate America is bunched with cash.

01:28:55.000 Well, you know, not according to the former budget director, who says that corporate America, under the Reagan administration, that corporate America has about $11 trillion in debt.

01:29:06.000 Well, Greg Hunter, long segment coming up.

01:29:09.000 The banks definitely are not doing hot at all.

01:29:15.000 And, you know, General Electric was bailed out.

01:29:17.000 They should have taken that company down to a dollar.

01:29:20.000 Well, Greg Hunter, long segment coming up.

01:29:23.000 I want to pop in with the lady who gave us the documents, pointed them out to us.

01:29:28.000 And I'm going to try to get her on the show tonight.

01:29:33.000 Stay there.

01:29:34.000 What were you going to say?

01:29:35.000 Go ahead.

01:29:36.000 Talk to me in the break.

01:29:37.000 Give me the web address.

01:29:37.000 I want to get on the same page with you.

01:29:39.000 Absolutely.

01:29:40.000 Here we go.

01:29:40.000 We'll be right back.

01:29:41.000 Stay with us.

01:29:47.000 We're on the march.

01:29:49.000 The Empire's on the run.

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01:33:14.000 I don't believe that anybody feels the way I do about you now.

01:33:21.000 We're going back to Angie, who's been on hold, who tried to call us four or five days ago and said, Hey, go to the Department of Defense bid process site.

01:33:36.000 And you can see where not only is KBR getting contracts to man the camps, we got those documents from state employees.

01:33:43.000 but they are you You know, stating that the military is involved and that it's blue force, you know, versus the red force, the command and control.

01:33:54.000 And I've been to urban warfare drills.

01:33:55.000 I'm like, well, how do you know that?

01:33:56.000 And then Angie Offair told me some things, but I'm just going to leave it at that and see what she wants to say.

01:34:01.000 Obviously, we'll, you know, give her anonymity so she doesn't have to worry too much.

01:34:05.000 But now you've got, here's the headlines.

01:34:07.000 Martial law attempt in Louisiana echoes Ron Paul's warning.

01:34:11.000 Louisiana state officials call for troops on the streets in war against guns and drugs.

01:34:16.000 I've got, in Illinois, I've got NBC and AP are saying, yeah, we want troops on the streets.

01:34:23.000 So that's a new talking point, but it's always going to be in the bad neighborhoods first, ahead of this.

01:34:29.000 Now, we're going back to investigative journalist Greg Hunter.

01:34:31.000 We're not going to spend a lot of time with the caller.

01:34:36.000 In fact, my phone system just crashed, John.

01:34:40.000 But we're going to spend a few minutes with Angie, and then I'm going to work on getting her on the TV show tonight, and maybe even her husband.

01:34:47.000 Because again, this stuff's all public, but you'd have to know where to go look where they're doing all this.

01:34:52.000 It was Wall Street Journal in 2006, about the $386 million to establish, through Halliburton, three one-million-person camps.

01:35:02.000 But now they admit, hey, we're going to use the Department of Defense against citizens.

01:35:05.000 Hey, we've got the Emergency Centers Establishment Act.

01:35:08.000 For economic collapse.

01:35:10.000 So now it's pretty much admitted.

01:35:13.000 It's just what are the details of it?

01:35:15.000 Super creepy, Greg, and you keep going back to economic collapse.

01:35:20.000 Obviously, if they know it's all going to collapse, I guess they think they're just going to put the homeless people and the dissenters in these facilities.

01:35:27.000 I mean, what do you see as an investigative journalist?

01:35:30.000 Well, by the numbers, if we lose our currency, so we have this $12 trillion in liquid dollar assets, that's Treasury bonds, that's dollars, but Treasury bonds are really nothing more than you pay somebody a dollar today, and in five years, or three years, or ten years, or thirty years, you get some more dollars back, and hopefully the interest rate will make up for the dollars you gave, and you'll actually have a profit.

01:35:50.000 I don't see how paying somebody 2% or 3% or 4% over five or ten years, you're ever going to be able to get your money back, in terms of real buying power, the buying power of your money back.

01:36:01.000 A lot of countries on the planet know this, and if we do have a dollar route, in other words, if we do have a sell of, let's say they sell all 12 trillion, let's say they sell 2 or 3 trillion, that could cause interest rates to spike.

01:36:18.000 Anybody with an adjustable rate mortgage, that could cause inflation.

01:36:22.000 We might be paying $10 a gallon for a gallon of gas.

01:36:25.000 That's the kind of things that can happen if we have a change of currency, and I believe ultimately this will all come down to a currency crisis in that they'll have a bank holiday.

01:36:35.000 When they do have a bank holiday, as they've had in the past, they devalue your currency, and you'll just have a lot less money to spend.

01:36:42.000 By the way, let me stop you.

01:36:43.000 I have another headline here.

01:36:46.000 Ask banks to keep more cash on hand.

01:36:48.000 Yes.

01:36:49.000 That's in AP and AFP.

01:36:51.000 So there it is.

01:36:52.000 And they say more people are coming in wanting their money.

01:36:56.000 Well, yes.

01:36:56.000 And you know, let me tell you, Martin Armstrong, the famous economist that was held for years for contempt of court, which is outrageous.

01:37:04.000 But still, he is a renowned, brilliant economist that came up with this economic confidence model, which is really the theory of cycles.

01:37:13.000 It is the theory of economic cycles give way to political cycles.

01:37:18.000 You know, we had a depression in the 30s, we had hyperinflation in the 20s for Germany, we had a depression in the 30s, and Hitler came to power in the 30s.

01:37:28.000 So an economic cycle, for example, gave way to a political cycle.

01:37:32.000 And he's out of jail now for his contempt, and he was held for five or seven years for contempt.

01:37:38.000 I'm not an expert on his case.

01:37:39.000 Talk about a police state!

01:37:41.000 He was told he was wrongly accused of a crime.

01:37:45.000 He did plead guilty to one crime, but thought he was going to get out.

01:37:50.000 Anyway, long and short of it, Martin Armstrong, the brilliant economist who I believe, he just gave a seminar in Philadelphia.

01:37:57.000 And, you know, people fly in from all over the world.

01:37:59.000 People with real money.

01:38:00.000 You know, it's like, I don't know, $4,500 or $5,000 to attend or whatever, which is nothing to people with money.

01:38:05.000 And he says, you know, when I have people fly in, it's kind of like the United Nations.

01:38:08.000 You know, I have people come over from really around the globe.

01:38:11.000 He's going to have some more of these conferences where he'll talk about, you know, macro-global economic things.

01:38:18.000 And even Martin Armstrong says, hey, listen, without real reform, the system is going to blow up.

01:38:24.000 The world is going to blow up.

01:38:25.000 The world economy.

01:38:27.000 He says, you know what the number one question was at this conference of all these people?

01:38:31.000 The number one question, according to him, in a recent interview, was, is my money safe in America?

01:38:37.000 And he says, listen, I've got to tell you, is this MF Global thing?

01:38:41.000 I've got to say no!

01:38:42.000 I don't have good confidence that anybody's money is safe in America, because basically they just went in.

01:38:47.000 This is according to Martin Armstrong.

01:38:49.000 Now, this is a source, a real source, not just my, I don't think money is safe in America.

01:38:53.000 This is a guy that counsels governments and Congress.

01:38:56.000 He's been called to Congress on more than one occasion.

01:39:00.000 You may not see him testifying in front of the House Financial Committee, but they've had him up there.

01:39:05.000 And he says that, you know, with what's going on, your money's not safe in America with the whole IMF global debacle.

01:39:12.000 So that's a problem.

01:39:13.000 Also, Ann Barnhart, you remember her?

01:39:16.000 Yes.

01:39:16.000 You shut her brokerage down because she said, hey, in good faith, because these trades can't settle, I can't tell my clients that their money is safe.

01:39:25.000 Hey, hey, they've had a bunch of other heads.

01:39:27.000 Soros gave the money up a few months ago and said, I'm not taking your money.

01:39:31.000 And they've had a bunch of others do it in the last six months.

01:39:34.000 Yes, and why is that?

01:39:36.000 Because systemic failure could lock everybody's money up.

01:39:39.000 They're talking about a credit freeze over in Europe, which is totally a misnomer.

01:39:43.000 They're not fighting a credit freeze.

01:39:46.000 They're not fighting a credit crisis.

01:39:48.000 The banks are insolvent.

01:39:50.000 I was guest hosting on a radio show, and they had this Wall Street Journal reporter a couple of months ago, and he was over there talking about the European banks.

01:39:57.000 And I said, hey, listen, I got this quote from CNN, buried in a story on CNN, and I mean, it's on my site.

01:40:03.000 Meredith Whitney, you know, star banking analyst Meredith Whitney, was sitting there talking with Poppy Harlow, I believe her name is, and she says, well, you know, Meredith Whitney says, well, you know they can't bail out all the banks.

01:40:15.000 There's going to be bank failures.

01:40:18.000 Because, you know, governments can't bail them all out.

01:40:20.000 Well, they're going to have to print tons of money, A, to bail out the winners, the ones they want to pick.

01:40:25.000 B, why is that story not being reported?

01:40:27.000 And I asked this Wall Street Journal reporter over there, you know, reporting on this as a guest, I said, why is it the fact that we are going to see banking failures?

01:40:37.000 Why are you not reporting that?

01:40:38.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh, this is the reporter, I want to name him.

01:40:41.000 Oh, well, even at the Wall Street Journal, you know, they're told to tone it down, not to cause a panic.

01:40:48.000 You know, hey, don't say that, you know, this slipped out from Meredith Whitney, you didn't see 60 Minutes having her back on.

01:40:56.000 Well, look at Ron Paul! 0.92

01:41:01.000 He's been warning about this, and they call him a fear monger and a crazy person. 0.75

01:41:05.000 Oh, no, no, no, no.

01:41:06.000 By the numbers, listen, the banks are insolvent.

01:41:08.000 It's such a big problem that not only in America did the financial accounting standards, or FASB, change the rules for what your assets are.

01:41:16.000 That's how insolvent the system is.

01:41:18.000 People don't realize it.

01:41:19.000 They changed the accounting rules because they couldn't print it.

01:41:23.000 But what does the system think?

01:41:25.000 Because if, and we're going to this caller because I want Angie to tell us more about this huge military news.

01:41:32.000 Corzine runs off with a billion, two hundred million conservatively.

01:41:39.000 But it's disappeared.

01:41:40.000 It's disappeared.

01:41:42.000 It's disappeared.

01:41:43.000 But then, as you know, it got no attention except the Financial Times of London did do a blurb.

01:41:48.000 The head of the CME group, for those that don't know, the big commodities group above it, he came out and said, sorry, we were in meetings with them, they took the money out, he gave the order.

01:42:01.000 So there's Corzine.

01:42:02.000 $175 million, yes.

01:42:06.000 Yeah, yeah, totally caught, right there, and no one gets in trouble.

01:42:11.000 I mean, obviously Corzine's up there lying.

01:42:13.000 He's the CEO, he doesn't know where it got wired to? 0.98

01:42:16.000 Well, I wrote a piece, and I tell you what, if I have to look that stupid to save my bacon, I mean, here you have a guy who is a former governor of the state of New Jersey, a former U.S. 0.97

01:42:26.000 Senator, and a co-chair, a co-CEO of Goldman Sachs. 0.99

01:42:31.000 And he doesn't know anything going on.

01:42:33.000 And the two guys within the COO and CFO also say they don't know what's going on.

01:42:39.000 I called it.

01:42:40.000 I said the three stooges testify in front of Congress. 1.00

01:42:42.000 I mean, the only thing they were missing was Mo slapping Larry and Curly for the dumb answers they were giving. 0.98

01:42:47.000 So why do you think they're getting so bold and reckless? 0.94

01:42:50.000 I think we're back to the insolvency problem over in Europe and of course they're adding more debt to tackle this problem.

01:42:58.000 So it's like pass the hand grenade.

01:43:00.000 It's like pass the hand grenade.

01:43:02.000 They pull the pen out and they just pass the bad debt around.

01:43:04.000 Yes, and we're talking about Anne Barnhart, the woman that shut her business down, says, hey, listen, you need $100 trillion to bail out Europe, at least.

01:43:14.000 And you know what?

01:43:15.000 They came out in the Davos-Switzerland thing in January.

01:43:18.000 They said they want $100 trillion.

01:43:19.000 How much did they need?

01:43:20.000 $100 trillion.

01:43:21.000 Tell me how they're going to pay, they're going to handle this insolvency crisis with the banks.

01:43:26.000 With 500, 600, a trillion, two trillion dollars over in Europe.

01:43:31.000 It's a solvency crisis.

01:43:33.000 They are insolvent.

01:43:34.000 And let me tell you, what I did get out of this reporter from the Wall Street Journal is, well, they've changed the rules about sovereign debt.

01:43:40.000 And yes, you too can hold that.

01:43:42.000 You know, you can hold Greek bonds that are, what, 30 cents on the dollar, 50 cents on the dollar.

01:43:46.000 They wanted to take a 50 percent haircut.

01:43:48.000 You can hold Greek bonds at par.

01:43:51.000 Makes your bottom line look really good.

01:43:53.000 That's like you saying, hey, I've got 10 ounces of gold, but I'm going to hold it on my books, not at $1,640 or whatever it is right now, $30 an ounce.

01:44:03.000 I'm going to hold it on my books at what I think I'd get for it in the year 2024.

01:44:06.000 I think it's worth $10,000 an ounce.

01:44:07.000 I've got $100,000.

01:44:08.000 Let's leverage that up.

01:44:08.000 Let's pay some bonuses.

01:44:09.000 Woo-hoo! 1.00

01:44:09.000 I've got $100,000. 1.00

01:44:11.000 Let's leverage that up.

01:44:12.000 Let's pay some bonuses.

01:44:13.000 Let's go out and buy a car.

01:44:14.000 That's what's going on with the accounting.

01:44:17.000 They are allowed to hold these toxic assets that they're toxic because what the Fed bought, at least a couple of trillion dollars because they weren't any good.

01:44:24.000 And you think about it, Alex, I want you to back up and do a wide shot.

01:44:28.000 And I want to tell you something really simple.

01:44:31.000 And it's going to be like, oh, you had the robo-siding.

01:44:34.000 Remember that?

01:44:35.000 Robo-siding.

01:44:36.000 Remember that?

01:44:37.000 Yes, I do.

01:44:38.000 Okay, so, so...

01:44:39.000 Now, we know it's widely reported that millions of documents were forged with people like Linda Green.

01:44:46.000 We're talking about promissory notes.

01:44:48.000 And you think you pay for your house after 30 years.

01:44:50.000 No, you don't.

01:44:51.000 You pay it when you sign a promissory note.

01:44:55.000 That's a financial instrument, much like a Federal Reserve note.

01:44:59.000 You can't go counterfeit a Federal Reserve note, go down to 7-Eleven, and buy a Slurpee, can you?

01:45:03.000 No.

01:45:04.000 You can't counterfeit a promissory note either.

01:45:08.000 So, now, if we know that millions of documents were forged, widely reported story, then riddle me this.

01:45:19.000 How did they create mortgage-backed securities when they didn't have the documents?

01:45:25.000 Obviously, they have to forge them.

01:45:27.000 How did they bundle the securities?

01:45:31.000 Number two, how did they rate the securities?

01:45:34.000 If you have to forge the documents, how did you rate the securities?

01:45:39.000 Number three, how did you get a tax advantage if they weren't really securities?

01:45:44.000 How did you get a tax advantage so the income goes straight through to the bondholder, to the pension fund, to whoever?

01:45:50.000 It's called a RIMIC. 0.73

01:45:52.000 And finally, if you know they're They're busy shipping guns into Mexico.

01:45:52.000 How did that happen?

01:46:06.000 They created the MIR system to fraudulently claim that they own the houses and had the deeds, and they AAA rated the bonds and had corrupt companies certified as AAA rating, which they then sold those insurance policies as more crud. 0.99

01:46:20.000 So they sold crap on top of crap. 0.98

01:46:23.000 Nobody's getting arrested. 0.99

01:46:24.000 According to William Black, the renowned economist, professor of economy, he's got a PhD in economy, PhD in law.

01:46:34.000 He was the big guy that sent a bunch of them to prison in Alaska around.

01:46:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:46:37.000 They put 1,000 financial elites in prison.

01:46:40.000 This is 70 times bigger, according to him.

01:46:43.000 I want to briefly, we're going to go to break, come back and have you finish riveting information.

01:46:47.000 Hope folks are waking up out there and spreading the word.

01:46:49.000 Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and whatever.

01:46:50.000 Greg Hunter, don't worry.

01:46:51.000 Northcom's standing by to take out the evil people that are criticizing.

01:46:56.000 And I want to briefly, we're going to go to break, come back and have you finish riveting information.

01:47:00.000 Hope folks are waking up out there and spreading the word.

01:47:02.000 Angie in North Carolina, I don't know how much you want to say what you told me off air, but you have reasons to notice these things, and the Department of Defense orders back to you.

01:47:12.000 But how big an issue, just to our guests, breaking it down, to talk about the military running emergency camps, well you could say it's for floods and things.

01:47:21.000 This says Blue Force Situational Awareness Communication, and you're absolutely right, when they talk about Blue Force versus Red Force, that means a combat situation.

01:47:32.000 Angie, finish up your points on that. 0.99

01:47:35.000 I think it's very disturbing.

01:47:36.000 This whole entire document is their bid to contract for the establishment of a communications system for the purpose of essentially a complete societal breakdown continuity of government situation.

01:47:52.000 And that's exactly what it says, that the operations divisions need to provide the, you know, basically the electronics And look at outreach support.

01:48:02.000 That's going to be PSYOPS.

01:48:04.000 And then in there it talks about Red Force.

01:48:06.000 And again, I've been to the drills.

01:48:07.000 That means when they go red-blue or blue-red, when it talks about Blue Force, that's the government against somebody.

01:48:15.000 Right.

01:48:16.000 Actually, it says Blue Force Situational Awareness.

01:48:19.000 And I'll say it again for those that don't know what that is.

01:48:22.000 It's the communication system that the military uses, its military program, to identify friendlies and non-friendlies in the battlefield for the purpose of avoiding friendly fire.

01:48:37.000 Generally, it's a transponder, unless they think the enemy's tracking them.

01:48:40.000 Then they turn them off, or it's what's painted on the tanks.

01:48:42.000 It's codes that are blurped out.

01:48:44.000 And anybody else who isn't on the blue list, you're on the red list.

01:48:48.000 Right.

01:48:49.000 Or they can use other colors, but usually it's blue-red.

01:48:52.000 I mean, this is amazing.

01:48:54.000 I mean, you know about it.

01:48:55.000 I mean, what are the people you know that are involved in this?

01:48:58.000 Are they pretty upset right now?

01:49:01.000 Yeah, very.

01:49:01.000 It's an extremely disturbing development.

01:49:05.000 You know, basically anything that would provide for a 72-hour standby in order for them to be able to pull together situational control within the borders of the United States using the military is disturbing.

01:49:23.000 That's why we have posse comitatus.

01:49:26.000 Well, we don't anymore!

01:49:27.000 They just passed NDAA! 0.88

01:49:28.000 Now, I mean, sure, it's outrageous, but wait, we found a C-SPAN clip, it's in like a two-hour-long show, we didn't play it on the radio, we found it at the start, but we're gonna try to play it tonight, where they're on C-SPAN going, look, we're not just gonna arrest you, we're gonna kill you! 0.96

01:49:42.000 And they say, yes, we're going to kill Americans without a trial! 0.92

01:49:46.000 I mean, just the magnitude of this!

01:49:50.000 Well that's what's so disturbing, and as you were saying before, with the blue force, red force, the way that that works is, you're right, blue force has Blue Force is considered friendly and they carry transponders and essentially anybody that does not have a transponder that identifies them as a friendly is considered a Red Force or enemy.

01:50:15.000 And that's what they use out in the battlefield.

01:50:17.000 Now I don't know why they would want to set up a system to be able to use that here within the United States unless they know something that we don't.

01:50:24.000 Well, look, I was told by insiders, and now of course the drones are actually tracking farmers, so people believe it now, that they got the GPS marking of your door for SWAT teams, Army truck pickups, and drone attacks.

01:50:36.000 And I was told this by an Army colonel who was so scared he wanted... I'm not gonna get into it.

01:50:42.000 Listen, I'm gonna put you on hold again.

01:50:44.000 I'm gonna have Rob Duke call you.

01:50:45.000 I want to interview you on the TV tonight.

01:50:48.000 We'll disguise your voice, whatever you want.

01:50:49.000 Because I know you have a lot more inside info.

01:50:51.000 I'm going to put you on hold now.

01:50:52.000 Our reporter, Rob Dew, is going to call you.

01:50:54.000 We're going to finish up with reporter Greg Hunter of USAWatchdog.com.

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01:54:48.000 In closing, Greg Hunter, you just heard that information from that lady in her Department of Defense. 1.00

01:54:54.000 I'm just going to leave it alone exactly what he does, but that's why they're aware of this.

01:54:59.000 But you talked about the mainstream media and how they've been discredited, they're losing viewers, alternative media.

01:55:07.000 Real journalists like yourself and others are firing up their own operations, becoming incredibly successful.

01:55:12.000 And so you have a perfect storm of old line media and government and industry openly saying, let's censor people, to where you have 80 of the inventors of the internet coming out last week and saying they really are planning to shut down alternative speech.

01:55:26.000 So you see them gearing up for what you call, what I would call, an iron curtain descending on America.

01:55:34.000 Take a look at the data points, and I'm going to tell your viewers and listeners another little data point that's coming out today before I start.

01:55:42.000 And these are just data points so you can say, hey, why aren't they telling this?

01:55:45.000 National Association of Realtors, see if anybody covers this tonight.

01:55:48.000 This came out today.

01:55:49.000 The NAR, National Association of Realtors, this is according to John Williams, who is an Ivy League trained economist who sells his information to hedge funds.

01:55:58.000 And nobody in the world would ever make a decision based on government unemployment, government inflation, government GDP numbers.

01:56:05.000 They hire people like John Williams to say, okay, here's the raw data.

01:56:08.000 What does it really mean?

01:56:09.000 And that's why John Williams, ShadowStance.com, does what he does for people who handle money.

01:56:15.000 Well, he does it the old way the government used to.

01:56:17.000 I mean, when he says inflation is 11%, If he did it the way it was done by the Bureau of Labor Statistics in 1980 or earlier... Are unemployments really 22?

01:56:17.000 That's correct.

01:56:26.000 Unemployment's really 20... 22, correct.

01:56:29.000 If it was done the way the Bureau of Labor Statistics did it in 1994 or earlier, unemployed, underemployed... Unemployed and underemployed is really 22.

01:56:38.000 So, really, we had the first two quarters of the year, we had a couple of percent shrinkage, according to him.

01:56:43.000 So, that's not getting up.

01:56:45.000 And here's another story, just as a data point, and I'll get back to your other thing.

01:56:49.000 The National Association of Realtors just refreshed their figures, and they basically, they corrected their estimates, and 3.54 million homes vanished.

01:56:59.000 Sales of 3.54 million homes vanished since 2007.

01:57:05.000 Just another little data point.

01:57:07.000 Let's see if that gets widely reported in the press, that the sales of 3.54 million homes have vanished since 2007, according to the National Association of Realtors adjustments.

01:57:19.000 But back to the mainstream media versus the real media, which is now us.

01:57:23.000 We're not the alternative media, we're the real media.

01:57:25.000 I know what a story is, Alex Jones.

01:57:27.000 I know what one is.

01:57:28.000 I did stories against Ford Motor Company.

01:57:31.000 I did stories against big car companies.

01:57:33.000 I did stories about depleted uranium munitions.

01:57:36.000 I had some of that stuff on my site.

01:57:38.000 I know what a story is.

01:57:40.000 I did nothing.

01:57:41.000 I didn't cover fires.

01:57:42.000 I didn't cover floods.

01:57:44.000 I worked in the R&D department of ABC News and CNN.

01:57:48.000 I work with the lawyers.

01:57:49.000 I work with standards.

01:57:50.000 I work with legal.

01:57:51.000 I didn't say anything unless I had, if I said a line like, so-and-so did such-and-such.

01:57:55.000 Do you have a document to prove that?

01:57:57.000 I had to have documents for everything.

01:57:59.000 I know what a story is.

01:58:00.000 I know what to say.

01:58:01.000 And I know how to say something that's true.

01:58:03.000 And what's going on today is outrageous.

01:58:05.000 But let's take 60 minutes.

01:58:07.000 The pinnacle of broadcasting.

01:58:08.000 They interview, and I did this on my side, they interview Ben Bernanke, what, several months ago.

01:58:15.000 And he says, oh, we're not printing money.

01:58:18.000 And you know how I know he's lying?

01:58:20.000 Because Jon Stewart on The Daily Show found a clip where he was on 60 Minutes a year earlier, and he says, essentially, we're printing money.

01:58:28.000 And 60 Minutes decided not to ask him about any of that.

01:58:31.000 I tell you what, Greg Hunter, let's do five minutes overdrive.

01:58:34.000 Back in 60 seconds.

01:58:35.000 I want you to finish.

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02:00:13.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:18.000 Alright, Tyson.

02:00:23.000 And others, your calls are coming up here.

02:00:25.000 We got Ben Fuchs, really an amazing expert on nutrition.

02:00:29.000 He is a pharmacist that I know Aaron Dykes and others have put into effect with incredible results.

02:00:36.000 I put it into effect and lost 10 pounds.

02:00:38.000 Though you can't tell, I'm so chubby.

02:00:40.000 But that's coming up right now.

02:00:42.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Tyson in Utah.

02:00:45.000 Thanks for holding.

02:00:46.000 Tyson, you're on the air.

02:00:47.000 Hi, Alex.

02:00:50.000 I'm a first-time caller.

02:00:51.000 I just wanted to share a little experience that I had in 2008.

02:00:56.000 I was... What I saw was something that led me to believe that there are either FEMA camps or detention facilities near my home.

02:01:06.000 I was driving down University Avenue in Provo, Utah, and as I was driving by a rail yard, there were two pilot cars that pulled out into the street and stopped traffic.

02:01:17.000 And as I watched, they were followed by some semi-traders that were loaded with these concrete boxes.

02:01:23.000 And I'm naturally quite curious.

02:01:28.000 So I followed these semi-traders to see what they might be hauling.

02:01:31.000 And with the pole on both sides of the trailers, it looked really close.

02:01:38.000 And it looked to me like large concrete boxes.

02:01:41.000 Each had two steel doors, and they had barred windows. - Yeah, no, no, no.

02:01:48.000 No, sir.

02:01:48.000 They have those.

02:01:50.000 For the last decade, the government's been building them as fast as they can.

02:01:53.000 And that's exactly what they have on these general camps.

02:01:57.000 Then they have areas where they lock you up.

02:01:59.000 They've been photographed many times.

02:02:02.000 They're like old-fashioned jails.

02:02:04.000 And this is for just setting up prisons very, very quickly.

02:02:10.000 Yeah, it was extremely frightening.

02:02:12.000 But see, denial set in after I saw this.

02:02:15.000 And I totally put it aside until one day, you know, less than a year later, I was on YouTube and I noticed a video of the exact same thing that I saw.

02:02:24.000 Somebody else in my area took photos of this as they were being unloaded and loaded onto the trailers.

02:02:29.000 Yeah, I forget what you call them, mobile jails, concrete jails.

02:02:34.000 They've been photoed and videoed all over the country.

02:02:38.000 And they are at some of these decommissioned bases.

02:02:41.000 But none of this is rumors now.

02:02:42.000 They admit they're hiring the internment specialist.

02:02:44.000 They've built the camps.

02:02:45.000 Now they're moving to have groups on standby to man them.

02:02:48.000 That is all official.

02:02:50.000 And the mainstream media will not touch it because they are complicit.

02:02:53.000 Just like they won't say Corzine's a crook.

02:02:55.000 They are complicit in the organized crime takeover of America.

02:03:00.000 But there's still a lot of free speech.

02:03:01.000 There's still a lot of good people in the country.

02:03:03.000 And folks are waking up.

02:03:06.000 Yeah, if viewers will type in portable prisons in Utah, what I saw will pop up and you can see the... Hey guys, type in portable prisons Utah for me please, we'll put that on screen.

02:03:15.000 Yeah, if you're a PrisonPlanet.tv viewer, you'll be able to see this, but everybody else, yeah, portable prisons Utah.

02:03:20.000 I've seen it all over the country.

02:03:23.000 In fact, some of these we know have been loaded on ships and taken overseas.

02:03:27.000 We know they have these There was a massacre less than a year into the Afghan invasion where they put in one night 3,000 people in these standing room only and then it's like it's a form of crucifixion to where you couldn't breathe and you couldn't lay down and it killed them all within three days. 0.99

02:03:44.000 Can you imagine how painful that is?

02:03:47.000 They cram you in.

02:03:49.000 People don't know what's happening when it's happening.

02:03:51.000 It's a form of murder.

02:03:52.000 I mean, it's an old fashioned form of killing and they cram you in.

02:03:58.000 And I see the photo.

02:03:59.000 There's even more powerful ones that show the bars.

02:04:02.000 I don't even know if that's what those are.

02:04:03.000 But it looks like prefab something.

02:04:06.000 And they cram you in standing until, it's like the phone booth game, and then they close the door and it's like, you're gonna die now.

02:04:16.000 They just walk off and leave.

02:04:19.000 I remember it came out, it was in BBC and AP, that when they did this, after three days they opened the doors to create a mass grave and one guy was alive and ran off and they machine gunned him, but then they had to write a report on it.

02:04:37.000 Yeah, there's from PrisonPlanet.com.

02:04:40.000 Okay, thank you so much for that information, sir.

02:04:42.000 We'll be right back.

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02:04:44.000 Hey, you're not for killing Pat Tillman, you're not patriotic.

02:04:47.000 You're not for shipping guns into Mexico to blame the Second Amendment, you're not patriotic. 0.86

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02:08:02.000 We are now into hour number three here today.

02:08:29.000 And joining us in studio is pharmacist Ben Fuchs.

02:08:33.000 You know, Ben, you've got a lengthy bio, but I never even seem to get into it.

02:08:36.000 I just start throwing out my questions.

02:08:38.000 I just want to say you've done a great job.

02:08:40.000 Aaron Dyche listens to your show, has followed a lot of what you've done.

02:08:44.000 He's lost 50, 60 pounds.

02:08:45.000 He's going to be interviewing you tonight on the Nightly News.

02:08:49.000 And then, of course, we're going to tape some more of it and re-air it later in the week, because I want to do a lengthy interview.

02:08:54.000 With you where we're not, you know, just here on the radio constrained by ads and the amount of time that we have But you know, I think the fact that you break down The issues that the system knows what they're doing.

02:09:08.000 I mean a great example is breast cancer We know what's going on with breast cancer We know that they always talk about, hey, let's find a cure for it instead of asking why does the U.S. 0.71

02:09:22.000 lead the world in it and every other form of cancer.

02:09:25.000 Instead of finding out why we're getting cancer, they just talk about treating it once you get it.

02:09:29.000 And I think with that statement, that opens up the door to understand the fact that they want to treat the illness.

02:09:35.000 They don't want to stop you from getting the illness.

02:09:37.000 Well, do you ever wonder why drug companies and Kentucky Fried Chicken and fast food operations sponsor things like Race for the Cure and the Susan B. Komen Foundation is sponsored by drug companies and sponsored by the people who produce foods and people who produce products that are linked to breast cancer?

02:09:59.000 I mean, what's the logic there?

02:10:00.000 Why would a drug company that's making drugs to fight breast cancer, supposedly fight breast cancer, what would be their vested interest in keeping breast cancer in the public consciousness? 0.79

02:10:12.000 Why would they want people to be terrified of breast cancer? 0.99

02:10:15.000 Why would they want to keep bringing up breast cancer everywhere you turn? 1.00

02:10:19.000 It's in order to get people paranoid enough, freaked out enough, that they participate in the medical model.

02:10:24.000 And that's the problem with breast cancer. 1.00

02:10:25.000 You don't hear people talking about, to take care of breast cancer, changing your essential fatty acids, not eating fast food, not eating Kentucky Fried Chicken, not participating in the kinds of things that cause breast cancer.

02:10:36.000 They talk about treating breast cancer, they talk about curing breast cancer, but they don't talk about not participating in the things that cause the breast cancer.

02:10:43.000 Breast cancer.

02:10:44.000 And by running all the different movements and having the different races and things with well-meaning people, they then control the whole debate about it to make sure that information is never discovered.

02:10:53.000 They act like they're the knights in shining armor.

02:10:53.000 Exactly.

02:10:55.000 They act like they're the saviors.

02:10:57.000 They act like they're the people who are going to save you from the breast cancer.

02:10:59.000 But let's look at the facts.

02:11:00.000 We now, anybody can just search this, it's a fact, lead the world in cancer of every type, including breast cancer.

02:11:08.000 And every industrialized nation that has the vaccines, the GMO, the monosodium glutamate that they base this fast food in, that's where you see this going on.

02:11:18.000 And places where it's not happening, they have intensifying longevity.

02:11:23.000 That's right.

02:11:24.000 Breast cancer, prostate cancer, these are diseases of lifestyle.

02:11:27.000 These are diseases of the way we participate in our lives.

02:11:30.000 They're not inevitable.

02:11:31.000 You don't have to get cancer.

02:11:33.000 They're the signs of a dysfunctional culture, the signs of dysfunctional lifestyle choices.

02:11:37.000 Okay, I want to get into all this with you here today, because you're here in studio with us.

02:11:42.000 But before we go any further, I'd like you to tell folks about your awakening, where you came from, your process, you know, to now being a leading person out there exposing all this.

02:11:54.000 I'm a pharmacist.

02:11:55.000 And let me tell you something, pharmacists know how the sausage is made.

02:11:58.000 As a registered pharmacist, one of the things that I saw was that the people who are getting the drugs are the people who can least stand the drugs.

02:12:06.000 Old people, sick people, and young people. 1.00

02:12:09.000 Those are the people who are taking most of the prescription medicines.

02:12:11.000 One of the things pharmacists study, and we study this at length, is side effects.

02:12:14.000 We study toxicities.

02:12:16.000 We study medicines.

02:12:18.000 We study diseases, and we study side effects of toxicity, side effects of medications, to the extent where one time I watched a movie in pharmacy school where the movie was promoting a new class of medications that was supposed to revolutionize heart disease, and the movie lasted 60 minutes, and 15 minutes was about how wonderful the new drug was, the new class of drugs it was that was gonna and 15 minutes was about how wonderful the new drug was, the new class of drugs it was that was gonna combat high blood pressure, and the

02:12:49.000 And when I saw things like this, I realized that, wait a minute, there's something wrong with this pharmaceutical model.

02:12:55.000 Then, in pharmacy school, we studied diseases as if they were nutritional deficiencies and we study medications as if, or we study nutrients as if they were medications.

02:13:04.000 So when you combine the fact that on the one hand you have diseases as the manifestations of nutritional deficiencies and on the other hand you have medicinal properties to vitamin A and to vitamin C and to vitamin E, it kind of makes sense that why the heck are we using pharmaceuticals with their side effects when what we're it kind of makes sense that why the heck are we using pharmaceuticals with their side effects when

02:13:26.000 And the medicines that we could use to treat the deficiency states are completely non-toxic, they're completely side effect free, and they're literally, literally the cures to the deficiency diseases.

02:13:37.000 By definition, a deficiency disease is cured by the nutrient that you give to fill up the deficiency.

02:13:44.000 So when I graduated pharmacy school and I saw that people were getting all these medications, were sicker than ever before, I combined that with my pharmacy background.

02:13:50.000 Our life expectancy's now fallen.

02:13:52.000 It's fallen!

02:13:53.000 It's like 26th now.

02:13:55.000 But, but, let me add, if you, as you know, and I've seen the actuaries on this, Up until even the 20s and 30s, if you lived past about 5, and then you took that infant mortality out because kids did die more often then, if you took the infant mortality out, longevity was way further than it is now.

02:14:12.000 I mean, they know exactly what they're doing.

02:14:15.000 Even when the settlers came to the New World from Europe, they had higher life expectancies.

02:14:21.000 When they came here from Europe, Europe was trash when the settlers came here in the 1600s and the 1700s. 1.00

02:14:27.000 The 1500s, Europe had been trash for almost a thousand years. 0.81

02:14:30.000 When they came here to the New World and all of a sudden they had fresh air and they had wonderful agriculture and they had great fish and they had all kinds of game, their life expectancy was 75, 80 years old.

02:14:43.000 And this is in the 1700s.

02:14:45.000 We had higher life expectancy.

02:14:47.000 So, the fact of the matter is, is that we're not sick, we're starving.

02:14:52.000 And what I saw as a pharmacist, when I started to dispense Medicaid, when I started to dispense nutrients to people who had been on medication, I saw blood pressure drop.

02:15:00.000 I saw weight drop.

02:15:01.000 I saw the markers of diabetes improve using nutritional supplements.

02:15:05.000 I just put one and one together and I started using nutritional supplements in my practice and I've been doing it for now close to 30 years.

02:15:11.000 Mike Adams talks about being a computer program hammer, you know, very successful and being really unhealthy.

02:15:18.000 And he got off the fast food and stuff and he got better right away and then now he's in super good shape and incredibly healthy.

02:15:25.000 It's not hard to do but you know what Alex?

02:15:27.000 People think it's a miracle because we have been so conditioned to believe that our body's demise is inevitable.

02:15:34.000 We've been so conditioned to believe that oh you're 30 or 35 you're just gonna get arthritis.

02:15:38.000 You're 30, you're 35, you're just going to have a fatty liver.

02:15:40.000 Do you know, 30% of Americans suffer from fatty liver disease, maybe more.

02:15:44.000 And if you go to the doctor and he says, oh you got a little fatty liver, you know what he'll tell you?

02:15:48.000 He'll say it's normal.

02:15:49.000 Because the medical model says that our demise is normal.

02:15:54.000 And the only thing we can do is stave it off symptomatically.

02:15:57.000 How do you reverse a fatty liver?

02:15:59.000 Lots of ways, and that's what I'll tell you in a second, but that's a great question because there are so many different ways to reverse these signs.

02:16:06.000 Fatty liver, I'll just give you a couple of good examples.

02:16:09.000 Fructose, fruit sugar, is processed directly by the liver.

02:16:12.000 In the last 30 or 40 years, we've gone from zero consumption of high fructose corn syrup to roughly 60 pounds of high consumption per person in this country, and that doesn't include the fructose that we get from tea.

02:16:23.000 And they know it converts differently.

02:16:25.000 It converts in the liver.

02:16:26.000 And then it blocks key endocrines, correct?

02:16:29.000 Well, the liver produces all kinds of hormones, but the point is, is that fructose is processed directly by the liver.

02:16:34.000 Paleologically, we didn't grow up with fructose.

02:16:37.000 The human body grew up in the African savanna.

02:16:39.000 There was no fructose in the African savanna.

02:16:40.000 We were lucky if we found a little bit of berries somewhere that didn't have a lot of sugar in it.

02:16:45.000 But what's happened over the last 50 or 60 years, I think it was in the early 70s when we started to get into a lot of high fructose corn syrup, is our ingestion of this stuff has skyrocketed and look at diabetes and the body can handle it it's up several thousand percentage points absurd and in pharmacy school when i graduated in nineteen eighty six they told us this was going to happen today one out of three americans either diabetic or pre-diabetic and instead it was an actuary of let's go make a bunch of money off this Well, here's a very important point, Alex.

02:17:12.000 We treat things at the top of the tree.

02:17:15.000 The root is usually in the digestive system, the blood sugar system, and the adrenal system.

02:17:20.000 And from there, you get heart disease, from there you get cancer, from there you get...

02:17:24.000 Skin diseases.

02:17:24.000 From there you get all the diseases that we're treating with drugs.

02:17:27.000 They're at the top of the tree.

02:17:29.000 If you want to treat disease, you have to go to the root.

02:17:32.000 And that means the digestive system, the blood sugar system, and the adrenal system, which is connected to the thyroid.

02:17:37.000 When we're born, Alex, human beings are born with big heads.

02:17:40.000 Because we're smarter than other animals.

02:17:41.000 We have big heads.

02:17:42.000 So we come out of the womb early because the head has to come through the birth canal.

02:17:47.000 So nature has designed a system where we come out of the womb early.

02:17:50.000 That means that our digestive system and our immune system are immature.

02:17:55.000 So nature has designed a system where mother's milk, human breast milk, will provide factors that build your digestive system and your immune system.

02:18:02.000 If you're born without getting breastfed, or you're not breastfed long enough, or your mother was undernourished, and that basically covers just about everybody, That's why our queues are dropping.

02:18:11.000 You're immediately, you're immediately... And they knew when they fed babies, those formulas, half corn syrup, half.

02:18:18.000 Some of them are 60 plus.

02:18:20.000 They know this is literally a death sentence to their brain.

02:18:24.000 That's why so many of these adults and people, it's like you're not even talking to a person.

02:18:28.000 Well... They are, they are mentally retarded. 1.00

02:18:31.000 So how do you deal with something like that? 0.99

02:18:33.000 Well, first of all, you've got to have a lot of motivation.

02:18:35.000 You've got to be motivated to make a change.

02:18:37.000 But the gift of the human body, Alex, is it will turn on a dime if you turn on a dime.

02:18:41.000 But I'm going back to the viciousness of the system when they said, women, you've all got to go work. 1.00

02:18:46.000 And by the way, here's this thing for your baby. 1.00

02:18:47.000 And it is a formula, a formula for an 85 IQ low-grade moron. 1.00

02:18:53.000 And that's who the general public, thank God my mother breastfed me. 1.00

02:18:58.000 You're lucky.

02:18:59.000 I mean, thank God.

02:19:01.000 And I've seen the studies where the cc size of the brain doesn't even grow to your genetic cranial size when you don't get those fats because you're designed to get that fat from your mother and now they're saying don't let babies have fat in their milk and they're saying give them you know it's absolutely we need to give them statins at birth.

02:19:19.000 Well, cholesterol.

02:19:20.000 Breast milk has some of the highest concentrations of cholesterol on the planet.

02:19:24.000 It's in human breast milk.

02:19:25.000 And the brain's made out of cholesterol.

02:19:26.000 Well, the neural sheaths, the coverage of the nerves are made out of cholesterol.

02:19:29.000 That's exactly right.

02:19:30.000 That whole statin drug thing, that's another scandal.

02:19:33.000 Oh my God.

02:19:34.000 But again, the Rockefellers who funded Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, they had discovered all this. 0.97

02:19:39.000 They knew cancer was viral.

02:19:41.000 Put it in the shots.

02:19:42.000 They knew you need cholesterol.

02:19:43.000 Get it out of the population.

02:19:45.000 They literally are turning us into zombies.

02:19:47.000 Stay there.

02:19:48.000 Let's break this down the other side.

02:19:49.000 Pharmacist Ben Fuchs is our guest.

02:19:51.000 We'll be right back.

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02:24:17.000 By the way, ladies and gentlemen, we're only going to have Aaron here for five minutes.

02:24:23.000 He's going to be interviewing Ben Fuchs in a two-part lengthy interview that will air the first of tonight on InfoWorks Nightly News and then the other second part later in the week.

02:24:35.000 But at the same time, of course, I am always promoting whatever I'm getting into, whether it's gold, whether it's the Second Amendment, whether it's Ron Paul.

02:24:44.000 I've been supporting Ron Paul for 17 years.

02:24:48.000 Been supporting the Second Amendment for a long time.

02:24:49.000 Been pushing gold and silver for 12 years and it's gone from, well, gold $260 an ounce to $1,700 plus.

02:24:56.000 Silver from $5 an ounce to $30 plus.

02:24:59.000 And I am promoting this.

02:25:01.000 Tangy Tangerine.

02:25:02.000 Beyond Tangy Tangerine.

02:25:03.000 My mother, I gave her some of this.

02:25:05.000 She's on the vitamins and minerals.

02:25:06.000 She's a big exercise person. 1.00

02:25:08.000 She tried some stuff over the years.

02:25:09.000 She did it.

02:25:10.000 Now she begs for me to get her more. 1.00

02:25:12.000 And has lost a ton of weight.

02:25:14.000 And she says before when she would do long-distance swimming, sometimes it would get kind of painful.

02:25:18.000 Like her muscles were kind of almost catching.

02:25:21.000 Now she says it's like they're oiled.

02:25:23.000 And my mom just was always in great shape.

02:25:25.000 She's in killer shape now. 1.00

02:25:27.000 I know there's some NBA basketball players I saw online that actually take this.

02:25:31.000 Theo Ratliff.

02:25:32.000 Yeah, he says his longevity is because of this.

02:25:35.000 Right.

02:25:36.000 And then there's Pollen Burst, which I also take.

02:25:39.000 It's got some, what, 70 milligrams of the caffeine in it.

02:25:42.000 So instead of that afternoon coffee that didn't even do anything anymore, I just hit one of these bad boys.

02:25:47.000 And it's got all the B vitamins, and it's awesome.

02:25:49.000 But quite frankly, it's the tangy tangerine.

02:25:51.000 And like you said, the worse off you are, because I was in really bad shape from overworking and not being healthy, the worse you are.

02:25:58.000 The better you feel it just immediately.

02:26:00.000 Now, I brought Aaron in here.

02:26:01.000 I drug him during the break.

02:26:02.000 There's not even two mics set up.

02:26:04.000 In fact, I called him in here 30 seconds before.

02:26:06.000 Look at Aaron, ladies and gentlemen.

02:26:08.000 Dun, dun, dun.

02:26:09.000 In fact, we can zoom in over here with this camera.

02:26:12.000 Aaron, you had to have lost 60 pounds.

02:26:14.000 Yeah.

02:26:14.000 That's awesome.

02:26:15.000 Probably 65.

02:26:16.000 That's awesome.

02:26:16.000 That's awesome, bro.

02:26:17.000 Good job.

02:26:18.000 Good job.

02:26:18.000 That was hard.

02:26:20.000 Not really.

02:26:20.000 I mean, I've been working out a lot harder before and didn't lose the weight.

02:26:24.000 It was when I took the right vitamins.

02:26:26.000 That's awesome.

02:26:27.000 That's right.

02:26:27.000 He was running, jogging, and lifting weights.

02:26:30.000 And I said, Aaron, I'm getting fat.

02:26:32.000 You're getting a little overweight.

02:26:33.000 I said, let's commit to work out.

02:26:34.000 What about a year or two years ago?

02:26:36.000 And you'd leave work to go work out and come back.

02:26:38.000 It didn't work.

02:26:38.000 Didn't work for me.

02:26:39.000 As soon as you start going late, I'm going to take a protein shake, because then my body isn't hungry.

02:26:45.000 Don't fight the craving.

02:26:46.000 Or I'm going to take a mineral drink.

02:26:48.000 It's over.

02:26:48.000 I mean, I've only been really doing this for two and a half weeks now.

02:26:51.000 I kept eating around the edges, screwing around.

02:26:53.000 I've been doing this two and a half weeks, and actually I went and went 11 pounds lost.

02:26:57.000 11 pounds on Tangy Tangerine and the One World Way, by the way.

02:27:00.000 It happens to everybody, Alex.

02:27:02.000 I can't tell you how many times I've seen this happen.

02:27:04.000 The reason I get so passionate about this is because I've seen it over and over and over again.

02:27:10.000 Blood pressure... And the system knows!

02:27:12.000 The system knows!

02:27:12.000 They have to know.

02:27:13.000 It's biochemistry.

02:27:14.000 What I'm telling you here is not my theory.

02:27:16.000 This is biochemistry.

02:27:18.000 There's hard wiring for sugar in your brain.

02:27:20.000 If you give your body protein, you won't want the sugar.

02:27:23.000 There's hardwiring for fat in your brain.

02:27:26.000 If you give your body essential fatty acids, you won't want the french fries.

02:27:29.000 There's hardwiring for minerals.

02:27:31.000 If you give your body good minerals, you won't want the salt.

02:27:33.000 Ted Anderson's dad couldn't go fishing and didn't know who he was anymore.

02:27:37.000 Ted, for a few months, got him on tangy tangerine, essential fatty acids.

02:27:41.000 He knew who he was.

02:27:41.000 He didn't have to go fishing.

02:27:42.000 He was back.

02:27:43.000 He went to the doctor.

02:27:44.000 The medical doctor said, I've tested his blood and because he's on Coumadin, he's not allowed to have these vitamins like this.

02:27:50.000 Take him off and he's gone again.

02:27:51.000 They take you off of broccoli.

02:27:55.000 They take you off of cruciferous vegetables because they have vitamin K. No, that's what they said.

02:28:01.000 No green vegetables.

02:28:02.000 That's what they tell you.

02:28:03.000 You're on vitamin K. And he's gone.

02:28:05.000 And I hate to be mean, but Ted says, I can tell it.

02:28:08.000 His mother says, we're doing what the doctor says.

02:28:10.000 And it's basically bye-bye to Ted's dad.

02:28:12.000 When it worked!

02:28:13.000 In a couple months, his dad was literally back!

02:28:16.000 They know!

02:28:17.000 The doctor knows!

02:28:19.000 They know!

02:28:20.000 That's what they told him!

02:28:20.000 No green vegetables!

02:28:21.000 I mean, now we're al-Qaeda!

02:28:24.000 No green vegetables!

02:28:26.000 I'm gonna do it.

02:28:27.000 I'm gonna tell you.

02:28:28.000 I'm going the Aaron route.

02:28:30.000 I'm going all the way, man.

02:28:31.000 Watch what happens, Alex.

02:28:33.000 You watch what happens.

02:28:34.000 That 11 pounds is nothing.

02:28:36.000 Watch what happens.

02:28:37.000 In the next six months, watch what happens.

02:28:39.000 The body is so forgiving.

02:28:41.000 It is so resilient.

02:28:42.000 It is so loving.

02:28:43.000 As soon as you turn around, it turns around.

02:28:45.000 Close shots of Snecky. 0.72

02:28:47.000 That's his nickname around here.

02:28:48.000 Anyways, that's German for snail.

02:28:51.000 The lightning snail.

02:28:53.000 Look at Aaron.

02:28:53.000 I wish we had a camera right here.

02:28:54.000 I mean, Aaron, Aaron, show them the guns.

02:28:57.000 Come on.

02:28:59.000 Hey, I'm doing better than I was, I mean.

02:29:01.000 Hey, I know, hey, silver from $5.30 plus, gold from $2.60 to $1,800 or whatever.

02:29:07.000 I only promote what I believe in.

02:29:09.000 I've seen the results of this with my mother.

02:29:11.000 My mother's saying she might even, and she's reclusive when it comes to radio, she might even come out and endorse this.

02:29:16.000 Infowars.com to get it, or infowarsteam.com, and your purchase goes towards supporting us.

02:29:23.000 Beyond Tangy Tangerine, complete multivitamin mineral complex.

02:29:26.000 We'll talk about it when we come back.

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02:29:36.000 We're all coming back with Ben Fuchs, Aaron Snecky Dykes and more straight ahead.

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02:32:53.000 Yes, ladies and gentlemen, Ben Fuchs is down in San Antonio putting on an event, or was, and I heard he was going to be in town a few weeks ago, so I said, come on up to Austin.

02:33:10.000 And then once he gets in here and starts talking about this, I start promoting it.

02:33:15.000 And when I did the research and found out about Yongevity and the fact that they're one of the biggest companies now and buy up all the stuff that Dr. Wallach and his advisors, you have studied and think is the best, that's what I got behind.

02:33:27.000 And you can go to Infowarsteam.com and sign up to be a distributor there.

02:33:32.000 A lot of people have done that.

02:33:33.000 Thousands and thousands.

02:33:34.000 I think something like 10,000 people now just at Infowarsteam.com.

02:33:38.000 Or you can just go there and buy the products.

02:33:41.000 Or if you're like my mom and don't order online, I just simply give it to her.

02:33:45.000 But you can also sell it to friends and family.

02:33:47.000 And I'm telling you, I just gave this to multiple members of my family and they came back later.

02:33:52.000 So I've been doing the Tangy Tangerine now off and on for about eight, nine months and started promoting this.

02:33:56.000 And you really enjoyed it and felt it right away.

02:33:59.000 But then automatically I started getting addicted to it, which tells me, oh, my body really wants this.

02:34:06.000 And then now that I've combined it with the whey protein in the morning, then I'm not as hungry all day.

02:34:13.000 And then at night, instead of pigging out, bam, I just have that.

02:34:17.000 And it's amazing.

02:34:19.000 Two and a half weeks, 11 pounds, and I've been jogging.

02:34:22.000 I've been lifting weights, and it wasn't doing anything.

02:34:25.000 My muscles just got bigger.

02:34:28.000 Tell us what is in the Beyond Tangy Tangerine.

02:34:30.000 I'll tell you what's in there, but the most important part about the Beyond Tangy Tangerine is it's liquid.

02:34:35.000 And the body processes liquids differently than it processes solids.

02:34:39.000 When you eat a solid food, the digestive process has to kick in.

02:34:42.000 When you drink a liquid, it goes right to work.

02:34:44.000 And because almost 70 million, maybe more, Americans have digestive problems, if you drink your nutrients, you bypass any kind of issues that you have with the digestive system, the stuff goes right to work.

02:34:56.000 And that's the most beautiful thing about that stuff is you feel it really quickly because it's going right to work.

02:35:00.000 We're going to show a photo of Aaron just in Switzerland in June, six months ago tonight, when he interviews you versus what he looks like now.

02:35:10.000 Looks like another person, doesn't it?

02:35:11.000 Yeah, looks like a second person.

02:35:13.000 You're going to see the old Alex Jones too.

02:35:15.000 I'm going all the way down.

02:35:17.000 At my biggest, years ago I was 270.

02:35:20.000 And then I went down to about 240, just running and lifting and not eating.

02:35:24.000 And then couldn't do it anymore.

02:35:26.000 Went back up to about 250, now I've gone down to like 238.

02:35:28.000 But I'm gonna go all the way down to 180.

02:35:30.000 I'm doing it.

02:35:31.000 I'm going to 180!

02:35:31.000 Can I do it, Aaron?

02:35:35.000 Sure, of course.

02:35:36.000 We've all got to do it in the fight against the New World Order.

02:35:37.000 You're not going to be able to withstand cravings with just willpower alone.

02:35:42.000 The drives are built into your brain for these things.

02:35:44.000 For many years, for eons, we linked calories with nutrition.

02:35:49.000 Today we get calories without nutrition, so our brain says, that wasn't it, go get some more calories.

02:35:54.000 Expecting to get nutrients with those calories, but it doesn't happen.

02:35:57.000 But you hit it with a whey shake.

02:35:59.000 You hit it with nutrients.

02:36:00.000 Goodbye.

02:36:01.000 Yes.

02:36:01.000 Tell folks what's in whey and why it's so good.

02:36:03.000 Whey is ridiculously important.

02:36:05.000 In fact, next to human mother's milk, whey protein is the, and eggs maybe, whey protein is the most nutrient-dense food for building... And that's cow milk protein.

02:36:14.000 Well, it's one of the proteins in cow's milk.

02:36:16.000 There's two major proteins in cow's milk, casein and whey.

02:36:20.000 The whey part of milk contains growth factors and immune-stimulating factors, building the immune system.

02:36:27.000 You're talking about cancer.

02:36:28.000 The body has cancer fighters built into it.

02:36:30.000 The body has molecules and entities that kill cancer, and those are part of the immune system.

02:36:36.000 When you drink whey protein, the globulins, the proteins in the whey protein that are supposed to build the cow's immunity, the calf's immunity, go into your immune system and build your immune system.

02:36:46.000 By the way, I'm not joking.

02:36:49.000 About a month ago, we started getting regularly in the office raw milk from San Antonio, from a farm down there, and we added it with the whey protein.

02:36:58.000 And I'm not kidding.

02:36:59.000 I looked around at the people who had been drinking some, working up here, and I said, are you high?

02:37:04.000 And we're like, yeah, this is not placebo.

02:37:05.000 We didn't say drink it and we're going to feel high.

02:37:08.000 I literally get high off of it.

02:37:10.000 I mean like high, like whoa!

02:37:12.000 Because I think that raw milk then activates the cold-pressed whey.

02:37:16.000 Well, whey protein has got everything you need to build things, to build muscle, to build tissue.

02:37:21.000 So if you're weightlifting, if you're fighting a disease, if you're recovering from something, whey protein has all of the factors that are required for your body to build.

02:37:29.000 But you know what I'm talking about?

02:37:30.000 I mean, I guess I was so undernourished that drinking raw milk with whey in it, I mean, It's not like the same high you get drinking a Coca-Cola that's got corn syrup in it.

02:37:39.000 I mean, it was like I felt really good.

02:37:41.000 Whey protein contains something called tryptophan.

02:37:44.000 Tryptophan is an amino acid that's involved, number one, in the neurotransmitter serotonin, which makes you really happy, really relaxed, and number two, in the hormone melatonin.

02:37:53.000 And both serotonin and melatonin are not only important for mood stabilization, they're important for plugging into spirituality, for plugging into the big picture via the pineal gland.

02:38:02.000 Pineal gland is this tiny little gland that sits in the middle of your head and it processes serotonin and melatonin.

02:38:08.000 And serotonin and melatonin, if you ever take melatonin, you know you have great dreams, are involved somehow in our connection with spirituality.

02:38:14.000 And so, when you take tryptophan, when you take things that have tryptophan, you stabilize and you help promote melatonin, serotonin metabolism.

02:38:21.000 Not only does it make you feel happy, it doesn't make you feel blissful and it makes you feel plugged in.

02:38:26.000 It makes you feel connected.

02:38:27.000 It makes you feel like there's something going on in a big picture kind of sense.

02:38:31.000 Which is why they want you on Prozac and not on Tryptophan.

02:38:33.000 I was about to say, because, so Tryptophan, I've heard, is called the natural Prozac.

02:38:37.000 It's the natural Prozac, but it works via this connection with the pineal gland.

02:38:41.000 But, I mean, what a surprise.

02:38:42.000 God gives us cows.

02:38:43.000 We're drinking the real thing. 0.92

02:38:46.000 The globalists are so evil, they take everything good away. 0.91

02:38:48.000 Oh, check this out. 0.80

02:38:49.000 Fluoride is specific for the pineal gland.

02:38:51.000 Fluoride is specific for the gland that is involved in serotonin and melatonin metabolism.

02:38:56.000 The pineal gland fluoridates.

02:38:59.000 It absorbs fluoride more than or almost as much as any other system in the body, and the pineal gland is your connection.

02:39:05.000 And so does the thyroid.

02:39:06.000 What is the numbers?

02:39:08.000 I've seen numbers that it's exponential, women above 30 with thyroid dysfunction.

02:39:13.000 It's a epidemic.

02:39:15.000 It's an epidemic.

02:39:15.000 The thyroid gland is connected to your adrenal glands.

02:39:18.000 And your adrenal glands are your stress glands.

02:39:20.000 Those are the glands that are responsible for, that's the gland that's responsible for helping you combat stress.

02:39:24.000 The more stress you have, the more hyperadrenal you are, the slower your thyroid will function to compensate for that.

02:39:32.000 So what we have is a culture that is so stressed out, not just psychologically and emotionally, but also physiologically, that we're all hyperadrenal and our adrenal glands are burning out.

02:39:41.000 The thyroid's response to that is to slow down to compensate.

02:39:44.000 The adrenal glands give you this hyped-up caffeine energy.

02:39:47.000 The thyroid gland gives you nice, smooth, easy-going energy.

02:39:50.000 Over time, when the adrenal glands are kicking in, the thyroid compensates by slowing down.

02:39:56.000 So this hyperadrenalism leads to hypothyroidism, and from that point forward, Alex, Every single disease is possible, because the thyroid regulates every one of the 100% of the blood.

02:40:06.000 Well, here's what's going on.

02:40:07.000 How long are you here in town?

02:40:08.000 You have to get on an airplane today, right?

02:40:10.000 I have to get on an airplane later today.

02:40:11.000 Well, as soon as the show's over, we've got to go in there and tape this two-part interview.

02:40:14.000 And I want you to go through it all with people and with Aaron, and for Aaron to throw in points.

02:40:19.000 And Aaron is a private guy.

02:40:20.000 I've drug Aaron in here.

02:40:22.000 But Aaron, you can be a testament to other people.

02:40:24.000 I mean, you're a great example.

02:40:26.000 Tell folks, because I know you've been listening to his show, and I mean out of the full spectrum of research, I know you've told me, Fuchs is one of your main sources.

02:40:33.000 Overall, what have you done, let's say my wife's listening right now, because she's wanting to implement even more of this, I'm wanting to, just enough that you'll hear the show some, and research it some, but to really dive into this, what have you done Aaron, to lose 65 pounds in what, six months?

02:40:47.000 I mean, again, I was working out.

02:40:49.000 I just wasn't getting much results.

02:40:51.000 It was very hard to kick the bad foods, basically, but it finally sunk in after a few months of hearing this stuff.

02:40:57.000 I was already taking the multivitamins, the liquid stuff, and I started taking the EFAs, but once I took the omega-3 and 6 EFAs twice daily or three times daily, and then the whey powder twice daily, that is when I started losing weight very rapidly.

02:41:13.000 So instead of doing an Atkins diet where you just eat giant amounts of meat and you're all with all the hormones and chemicals, you just take the essential fatty acids and the whey powder and now you're not hungry.

02:41:24.000 I could not eat, especially in the first two or three months of this.

02:41:27.000 I just, I couldn't even hardly eat anything.

02:41:32.000 And then you just nibble on some vegetables, fruits and nuts and stuff.

02:41:38.000 I'm going completely on this!

02:41:40.000 One of the greatest strategies you can employ to stay younger, to lose weight, and to prevent disease is to under-calorize.

02:41:47.000 To take less calories than you need.

02:41:50.000 Because when the body perceives that it's getting less calories, it wants to send you out on a hunt for zebra and for wildebeest.

02:41:58.000 So it sends the energy to your legs and builds muscle.

02:42:00.000 Now this is just under-calorization slightly.

02:42:04.000 And so you want to under eat.

02:42:05.000 Well, no, they've got studies in mice, rats, insects, everything.

02:42:08.000 They live longer.

02:42:09.000 Exactly.

02:42:10.000 When they bring it down to almost starvation, but a high nutrient diet.

02:42:13.000 Exactly.

02:42:14.000 High nutrients, low calories.

02:42:16.000 And the only way to do that, Alex, the only way to do that is to get on a supplement program.

02:42:21.000 The reason longevity is so wonderful is because it's so easy to do.

02:42:25.000 When you get on a supplement program and you give your body nutrients without calories, every marker of health and longevity improves.

02:42:32.000 It's the number one way to improve health and longevity.

02:42:34.000 And the system knows this and sells us food to make us sick, which they then give us treatments for.

02:42:41.000 That's right.

02:42:41.000 This is all biochemistry.

02:42:42.000 This is not theory.

02:42:43.000 This is how the body works.

02:42:45.000 When it perceives low calories, it sends you out on a hunt.

02:42:48.000 It makes you sharper.

02:42:49.000 In fact, there are neurotransmitters in your brain that keep you alert when you're hungry.

02:42:53.000 No, no, no.

02:42:53.000 That's the one reason I, before, would just try to willpower diet.

02:42:56.000 is that I got super smart, super aggressive, and super angry.

02:43:01.000 I mean, when I would go on diets and just not eat very much, I was...

02:43:05.000 Without nutrients.

02:43:06.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:43:07.000 But I had lots of energy, but I was really mean.

02:43:10.000 Well, you were missing key nutrients probably.

02:43:12.000 You don't want to just starve yourself.

02:43:13.000 You want to give yourself...

02:43:15.000 You're saying high nutrient, low calorie.

02:43:17.000 Listen, I want to talk about this right now.

02:43:19.000 Folks can call if they want to have any questions or get involved with Longevity.

02:43:23.000 877-551-1301, 877-551-1301.

02:43:29.000 And expanding on that, you can hear Ben over there drinking his pollen burst there in the background.

02:43:38.000 And you can also go to Infowarsteam.com and part of the proceeds when you buy the different vitamins and minerals and essential fatty acids and nutrients that are there.

02:43:49.000 Goes to fund the Infowars media operation.

02:43:52.000 Again, we're not like revolutionary communists that rob banks to fund ourselves.

02:43:55.000 We promote things we believe in, in free market, and I've done deep research because over the years I've turned down so many vitamin, mineral things.

02:44:03.000 I did research, research, when I finally got ready to get into it myself.

02:44:06.000 Boom, I chose longevity and it's something you can get involved in as a home business or to sell in your grocery store, to sell in areas where you have a connection to the public or your little five and dime or your gas station, whatever the case is, people need to get this information and they need to get involved.

02:44:27.000 And again, that's InfoWarsTeam.com.

02:44:30.000 There's banners up at InfoWars.com, but you can't forget it.

02:44:33.000 InfoWarsTeam.com, there it is.

02:44:36.000 on screen or call 877-551-1301.

02:44:40.000 Now, tell us about pollen burst.

02:44:42.000 Aaron, do you want a pollen burst or do you want a tangy tangerine?

02:44:45.000 I'll take the pollen.

02:44:45.000 I like this too, but I was going to do a pollen burst.

02:44:48.000 Now here, here's a pollen burst.

02:44:49.000 Tell us, Ben, what is in.

02:44:52.000 By the way, when you got in here, I had to say, quit popping your bottle and drinking it right before we went live.

02:44:57.000 You actually started taking a pollen burst right when you got in here.

02:44:59.000 Heck yeah! 0.96

02:45:00.000 The first time I met you out in California, you were visiting MZ's radio stations.

02:45:04.000 He's got myself and you on.

02:45:06.000 You were in there, you know.

02:45:07.000 I like to mix the Beyond Tangy Tangerine with the pollen burst.

02:45:09.000 Okay, well let's hear it.

02:45:10.000 The pollen burst has got the B vitamins in there, and the B vitamins are so fascinating because Most people are going to be deficient in the B vitamins because they're rapidly processed out of food.

02:45:20.000 So if you're eating foods that are cooked, if you're eating foods that are frozen, if you're eating foods that are prepared in any way, you're going to be deficient in these B vitamins.

02:45:28.000 And the B vitamins work on the parts of the body that move the fastest.

02:45:32.000 The brain, the heart, the skin, and the digestive system.

02:45:36.000 Those are the four systems that respond rapidly to the B vitamins.

02:45:40.000 So you notice when you start taking the polymers, The B Vitamins will help you think.

02:45:43.000 It's great if you have a test to take if you're a student.

02:45:46.000 The B Vitamins are important for the heart.

02:45:48.000 And by the way, when it comes to heart disease, we got 600,000 people in this country who die of heart disease every year.

02:45:54.000 Some 64 million Americans have some form of heart disease, one form or another.

02:46:00.000 The B Vitamins, a nickel's worth of B Vitamins every day is the most powerful nutritional way to protect yourself from heart disease.

02:46:07.000 It may be the single most powerful thing you could do to protect yourself.

02:46:10.000 And look, heart disease is getting worse.

02:46:12.000 All this stuff.

02:46:13.000 And if you look 50 years ago, they were eating chicken fried steaks, gravy.

02:46:18.000 They didn't have that many heart attacks or cancer.

02:46:20.000 If you look at it, it's not even the quote unhealthy food that they've taught us that is the main cause of this.

02:46:25.000 It's all the additives and the petrochemical companies that get authorization to put poison in the food because they know it's addicting.

02:46:33.000 Tell us about MSG and stuff as we drink some polymers.

02:46:36.000 Well, one compound is classified as an excitotoxin. 0.75

02:46:40.000 What that means is it makes your brain so happy that you'll think that the most rottenest piece of crap tastes like cherry pie or tastes like something delicious because it tricks your brain into being really happy. 0.94

02:46:53.000 The Japanese were the ones who pioneered MSG so they could feed their soldiers crappy food. 1.00

02:47:01.000 The soldiers would eat the crappy food.

02:47:02.000 By the way, that's on record. 0.87

02:47:04.000 Yeah, the soldiers would eat the crappy food. 0.68

02:47:06.000 They thought they were eating filet mignon, but they were eating the crappiest one.

02:47:09.000 And by the way, in Europe and in Japan and China, it's a gourmet place.

02:47:14.000 You've got to book six months out to eat pure soaked MSG crud.

02:47:19.000 Same thing with the hot wings.

02:47:20.000 And by the way, now, if I eat MSG within hours, I have a horrible headache.

02:47:23.000 I've developed a total allergy to it.

02:47:25.000 So they know what they're doing.

02:47:27.000 You're playing with brain chemistry.

02:47:28.000 The last thing you want to do is play with your brain chemistry with artificial chemicals.

02:47:34.000 Well, I tell you, expanding on that, this should be criminal what they do.

02:47:39.000 But there's other chemicals they put in the food.

02:47:40.000 Yeah, but we're participating, Alex.

02:47:42.000 We volunteer.

02:47:43.000 Nobody forces us to go eat this stuff.

02:47:45.000 We're volunteering.

02:47:46.000 Yeah, but the FDA says we're the government.

02:47:47.000 We're keeping you safe.

02:47:49.000 Right.

02:47:49.000 Well, if you're going to trust the FDA, you know... Yeah, that's a big point, too, though.

02:47:53.000 I've heard you read those quotes on there.

02:47:54.000 The Founding Fathers... Benjamin Rush?

02:47:57.000 Benjamin Rush warned about this stuff.

02:47:58.000 Benjamin Rush signed the Declaration of Independence.

02:48:00.000 He was a medical doctor.

02:48:01.000 And he warned about the hegemony and tyranny of modern medicine. 0.72

02:48:04.000 Well, it's always witch doctors that take over. 1.00

02:48:06.000 Because they know how humans work.

02:48:07.000 They're out in society.

02:48:08.000 They manipulate.

02:48:09.000 Aaron, you want some of this?

02:48:10.000 Here you go.

02:48:10.000 I want that spoon.

02:48:12.000 The biggest statement you can make, Alex, the most powerful statement you can make is to disengage from the machine at every turn.

02:48:20.000 I've got that, and I am sold!

02:48:22.000 I have barely, I've gone 10 degrees towards you, and I've already seen massive results.

02:48:27.000 That's awesome.

02:48:27.000 I have come 10, and Aaron has turned 180 degrees, right pointed straight where Ben Fuchs is, and look at the results.

02:48:33.000 Exactly.

02:48:34.000 So I'm slowly turning myself towards you, and if I just remember to eat the way shake.

02:48:39.000 If I just remember to take the tangy tangerine, if I remember to take... I mean, when I do eat the essential fatty acids from Yongevity...

02:48:47.000 I'm literally not hungry and my brain works better.

02:48:49.000 Exactly.

02:48:49.000 What do you recommend people buy as a starter pack at Infowarsteam.com?

02:48:52.000 The Ultimate EFA's, the Osteo FX and the Beyond Tangy Tangerine is in the Alex pack.

02:48:57.000 It's discounted if you buy all three.

02:48:59.000 It's a perfect way to demonstrate how powerful this is.

02:49:03.000 Not just for the person buying it, but for somebody who's watching the person buying it.

02:49:07.000 For a loved one who's watching somebody... Well that's why Longevity is literally so successful is because People literally see the results.

02:49:15.000 They see the results.

02:49:17.000 Just like what's happened to Aaron.

02:49:19.000 Alex, this is not a miracle.

02:49:20.000 This is not magic.

02:49:22.000 We're supposed to be Kenyan runners.

02:49:24.000 That's what we're supposed to be.

02:49:25.000 We're supposed to be lean and mean.

02:49:27.000 You ever seen a Kenyan runner?

02:49:29.000 That's what human beings are supposed to be.

02:49:31.000 Every pound you have that's above a canyon runner is something that's a part of our dysfunctional society.

02:49:36.000 It's a lifestyle choice that you made.

02:49:39.000 So, picture yourself as a canyon runner, and then picture the difference between you as a canyon runner, and that difference represents the lifestyle choices and the dysfunctional culture that we've immersed ourselves in.

02:49:49.000 As you begin to incorporate these strategies, you reverse that, and you become closer to a canyon runner.

02:49:54.000 You know what I mean by a canyon runner?

02:49:55.000 Lean and mean.

02:49:57.000 Leans are supposed to be greyhounds. 0.99

02:49:59.000 You're exactly right.

02:50:00.000 Now, what is it with...

02:50:01.000 We've been domesticated.

02:50:02.000 The difference between a lion and a pussycat, we're the pussycat.

02:50:06.000 We've been domesticated.

02:50:07.000 We're supposed to be lions.

02:50:08.000 And we get domesticated through the foods that we're eating and the ways we participate in our culture.

02:50:14.000 So if you want to get your feralness back, if you want to get your vigor back, if you want to get your zest for life back...

02:50:21.000 You have to reverse that process.

02:50:23.000 And the way you do it, the first thing you do is nutritional supplementation and calorie restriction.

02:50:27.000 And then working out as well.

02:50:29.000 That's something to build muscle.

02:50:31.000 Well, that's the thing is that, uh, instead of even eating something, just go for a run.

02:50:35.000 That burns fat.

02:50:36.000 You have a meal right there.

02:50:37.000 You get a, well, here's another thing.

02:50:39.000 A female hormone is produced in body fat. 1.00

02:50:42.000 So, the more body fat you're carrying, the more feminized you become. 0.61

02:50:46.000 That means gynecomastia, which means breasts. 0.99

02:50:48.000 That means impotence and sexual problems.

02:50:51.000 That means lower resistance to diseases.

02:50:54.000 Stay there, we'll be right back.

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02:55:09.000 Aaron, I was just talking to you during the break and you said, look, it's so easy when you take the longevity minerals and vitamins because now your body's got that, then you've got protein on top of it from the whey, you've got the essential fatty acids, you've got everything your body wants, you're just not hungry anymore, but you're eating things where the weight's gonna pour off of you.

02:55:30.000 In fact, how are you going to stop the weight loss?

02:55:32.000 When do you plan to quit?

02:55:33.000 Near Canyon Runner.

02:55:35.000 Yeah, I guess.

02:55:36.000 Yeah, I don't know what's going to happen then.

02:55:40.000 But yeah, it was very easy.

02:55:41.000 I mean, it makes me want to work out more anyway.

02:55:44.000 So I started with taking the multivitamins just basically to see if it works.

02:55:48.000 I did notice the difference and then I started focusing more on the weight and the EFAs with the multivitamins.

02:55:53.000 The weight just poured off and working out was a lot easier anyway, but I wasn't working out nearly even half as hard as I was two years ago, a year ago.

02:56:03.000 Very moderate, really.

02:56:05.000 The trick is you don't want to be forced to looking for food all the time.

02:56:08.000 You know, Alex, people are looking for food all the time.

02:56:10.000 They live to eat.

02:56:12.000 Every minute of the day is spent thinking about what the next piece of food is.

02:56:16.000 It's because their body is so starving, their brain is so starving for nutrients that it sends them on this one-pointed hunt for food.

02:56:22.000 And instead it's getting empty calories so it's more, more, more, more.

02:56:26.000 Yes, exactly.

02:56:27.000 Appetite and satisfaction are regulated by chemistry.

02:56:30.000 What we're talking about here is nothing less than hacking into the brain's chemistry to tell the brain that you're full and tell the brain that you're satisfied.

02:56:38.000 I hate willpower.

02:56:39.000 I have no willpower.

02:56:41.000 I don't believe it should be hard.

02:56:42.000 When you start using nutritional supplements, you hack into the brain's satisfaction centers, and the brain sends the message that everything is right, you're satisfied.

02:56:51.000 We could put the New World Order out of business in a revolution if we just, all of us, did the transformation you guys have gone through.

02:56:58.000 If I can do it, and we can air this tape, You know, six months from now and I'm 180 pounds?

02:57:03.000 That's right.

02:57:03.000 And show people and say, by the way, the system knows this and none of them will tell you because they want the racket to continue forever.

02:57:10.000 If you weren't spending all your energy and your time and your money looking for food, what kind of energy and time and money would you have to do other things?

02:57:17.000 Hey, wasn't it you that went with me to California?

02:57:18.000 Yeah.

02:57:19.000 I remember I have that memory of him telling you how you could lose weight.

02:57:22.000 That's right.

02:57:23.000 And that was a year ago.

02:57:23.000 Yeah, I thought they were real weird because we went out to eat and they didn't eat anything and they were just sitting there and...

02:57:29.000 I didn't know about the vitamins yet.

02:57:30.000 I mean, I heard about them, but hadn't tried them yet.

02:57:32.000 No, I was like, man, they're like space aliens.

02:57:33.000 They all look really healthy, but they don't eat.

02:57:37.000 More like... Yeah, I'm telling you, Aaron.

02:57:40.000 Yeah, that was in Santa Cruz.

02:57:43.000 Yeah, I heard about it then.

02:57:44.000 And then a few months later, when he started promoting it, I said, I'm going to try this.

02:57:47.000 But once I put my money, I wanted to make sure I was taking them and see if there's results or not.

02:57:52.000 Well, living testimony.

02:57:54.000 Folks, camera puts 10 pounds on you. 1.00

02:57:55.000 If you saw Aaron in person, it is unbelievable.

02:57:58.000 Hey, 11 pounds in two and a half weeks with me.

02:58:00.000 That's awesome.

02:58:01.000 And that's just... It's going to keep going.

02:58:03.000 It's going to keep going.

02:58:03.000 No, no, I haven't even put it all into function yet.

02:58:06.000 I'm going to start banging nothing but the way and tangy tangerine.

02:58:11.000 Take a picture now.

02:58:13.000 Take a picture before you lose any more weight.

02:58:14.000 Take a picture now without your shirt.

02:58:16.000 Take a picture without your shirt.

02:58:17.000 I don't know about right now without your shirt, but take a picture of yourself.

02:58:21.000 Well, no, I'll take a picture.

02:58:22.000 You're going to what?

02:58:26.000 We'll see what I look like.

02:58:28.000 We'll see what I look like.

02:58:29.000 You're not going to lose the guns.

02:58:31.000 I don't want to lose my guns.

02:58:32.000 I don't have guns.

02:58:33.000 I have fat little arms.

02:58:34.000 No, they are actually big guns.

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Alex Jones Show - December 26, 2011

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