Alex Jones Show - 20120419_Thu_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 It is already Thursday, the 19th day of April 2012.

00:00:35.000 12.

00:00:37.000 It was 17 years ago today that ATF and FBI bombs tore through the Alfred P. Murrow building in Oklahoma City.

00:00:48.000 Yesterday, for the last time, she says,

00:00:52.000 Jane Graham, who's one of the heads of HUD and the head of the local union there in Oklahoma City, she came on the radio and on the nightly news yesterday and broke down the witnesses, the police that were threatened, the police that were killed, because they saw the feds in there planting the bombs and then being there when the bombs went off.

00:01:19.000 Amazing information, and coming up in the second hour, because it is the anniversary of this devastating attack that was used to demonize the state's rights movement, the militia, libertarians, and true conservatives.

00:01:33.000 Constitutionalist Ron Paul, myself, I've been demonized with it.

00:01:37.000 Rush Limbaugh, they called for shutting his show down.

00:01:39.000 And again, even if you love him or hate him, if you can shut him down for somebody else's violence, well that's the end of freedom, isn't it?

00:01:48.000 So we'll have the director of the amazing film A Noble Lie, James Lane, joining us, along with Holland Vander Nieuwenhoff, who's a writer, producer, and researcher.

00:02:01.000 That is coming up in the second hour.

00:02:03.000 Then we'll have open phones in the third hour.

00:02:05.000 And we're going to have open phones today.

00:02:06.000 I have an incredible spectrum of news and information, and I am going to attempt To go to your phone calls.

00:02:15.000 And I've been doing a little bit better job, as I've said, but overall failing.

00:02:18.000 So I want to take a lot of calls in this hour.

00:02:20.000 We'll see if we can do it today.

00:02:22.000 First-time callers again.

00:02:23.000 We've got millions and millions of listeners.

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00:02:28.000 I want to be able to hear from you.

00:02:30.000 You notice when I say first-time callers, almost every caller is like, I've been listening 10, 12 years or 5 years, never been able to get through.

00:02:38.000 And it's amazing to hear from those people.

00:02:39.000 So if you're a first-time listener, on any issue you want to bring up, question, comment, agree with me, disagree, 800-259-9231.

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00:02:57.000 Coming up, weekly jobless claims hit higher level than expected, and that's with cooked numbers.

00:03:08.000 Of course, we're in a depression.

00:03:09.000 That's going to get a lot worse.

00:03:10.000 It's by design, unless we get rid of the globalists. 0.67

00:03:13.000 Continuing, we're going to get into the attack on Christian churches in this country with the federal government coming in and saying the churches have to pay for abortions.

00:03:24.000 Headline, Will Obama find Catholic institutions into oblivion?

00:03:30.000 Also, Red Alert is one of our top stories.

00:03:33.000 Draconian CISPA bill picking up sponsors ahead of vote next week.

00:03:38.000 It's now got over a hundred.

00:03:40.000 And it makes SOPA look like child's play, and it's Homeland Security and the Pentagon ending due process, taking over the web, and publicly admitting they're recording everything.

00:03:51.000 Totally illegal, but the gauntlet is in our face.

00:03:54.000 They're just like, yeah, you live in a tyranny.

00:03:58.000 They've also announced that all cars won't just have black boxes that have been in all cars made in the U.S.

00:04:04.000 since 97, foreign cars since 2001 under agreements.

00:04:08.000 Now they're going to record audio, track you in live time, and you're paying for this piece of expensive high-tech when you purchase the automobile.

00:04:16.000 There's got to be an antitrust suit or something involved in that.

00:04:19.000 I mean, where are they?

00:04:20.000 It's like government making you buy health care.

00:04:25.000 They make you buy a piece of equipment made by two companies.

00:04:29.000 And that's a... That's a trust right there.

00:04:32.000 That's a monopoly.

00:04:33.000 It's a duopoly.

00:04:35.000 It's an oligopoly.

00:04:36.000 combine and it's the same with the cell phones the toasters the smart meters they make you pay for a surveillance grid that that is about a thousand times conservatively worse than 1984 i mean it's joke level and it's all being announced that's coming up stay with us hi this is alex jones

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00:07:59.000 Big Brother.

00:08:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:08:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:10.000 You want answers?

00:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:23.000 It is April 19, 2012.

00:08:29.000 On this Thursday edition, I'm Alex Jones, your host, and we are going to be live here for the next three hours today.

00:08:39.000 We're also going to have wide open telephones throughout the broadcast for first-time callers yet again 800-259-9231.

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00:08:51.000 Okay, let me just run over some of the top stories here.

00:08:55.000 And then we will start going to your phone calls.

00:08:59.000 And then in the second hour, we're going to have the director and producer of A Noble Lie, Oklahoma City 1995 documentary film that we have available, by the way, at Infowars.com discounted.

00:09:11.000 That is the only modern professional film with all the data proving that Oklahoma City was a fast and furious operation.

00:09:21.000 and A false flag to blame conservatives and libertarians for terrorism and to demonize the state's rights movement that was gaining steam just as it is today.

00:09:34.000 And you have all the Democratic strategist memos that have even been in the Financial Times of London and the Associated Press in the last two years where they say to Obama, an Oklahoma city is the only thing that will save you.

00:09:46.000 We need a terror attack that domestic groups carry out so you can shut down your detractors.

00:09:53.000 They come within one micron of saying stage it.

00:09:58.000 They're like, one is coming.

00:10:00.000 It's going to help.

00:10:01.000 When it happens, you've got to seize it.

00:10:05.000 Don't let a good crisis go to waste.

00:10:06.000 I mean, they come so close to it, so close even Glenn Beck, and then announced a week later he was having to leave Fox over it, came out and said the White House was preparing to stage a new Oklahoma City to be blamed on libertarians and conservatives.

00:10:24.000 So that is coming up.

00:10:24.000 And I interviewed Jane Graham, who was one of the heads of HUD in the building that day on the seventh floor, when it blew up.

00:10:31.000 And she had witnessed the feds planning the bomb.

00:10:34.000 She thought they were, she didn't know what the gray sticks of butter were.

00:10:37.000 In the days before, she'd heard the FBI people in the coffee room, in the lounge saying, yeah, they're going to bomb a federal building in the next two weeks.

00:10:47.000 She called friends about it.

00:10:50.000 This is amazing, and she's talked to the police officers who were threatened with murder.

00:10:54.000 If they spoke out, some were then killed, like Terence Yeakey, cop of the year.

00:10:59.000 I've interviewed Don Browning, head of the K-9 unit who was there, minutes after.

00:11:03.000 He saw the feds and what they were doing.

00:11:05.000 They told him, you and your wife are dead if you speak out.

00:11:08.000 He still didn't shut up. 0.99

00:11:09.000 The police chief told other police, and she's documented this, yeah, you better shut up. 0.83

00:11:16.000 So see, you see all these parades for dead cops and stuff?

00:11:19.000 That's the system is trying to look good off dead cops, dead heroes.

00:11:23.000 At the end of the day, at the end of the day, when they were killing cops and killing witnesses, the other cops said shut up in pure cowardice to the other police officers and stood down as they were tortured and killed.

00:11:40.000 So this lady risked her life coming on this broadcast, and she's done interviews over the years, and she just says she's told her story, this is it, and she's got ill family and people she's taking care of.

00:11:51.000 Poppy Heidelberg, of course, was on a few months ago.

00:11:51.000 She's done.

00:11:56.000 He's fighting cancer.

00:11:58.000 He said that may be his last interview.

00:12:00.000 He was one of the grand jurors, had the FBI come to his house, threatened to kill him.

00:12:04.000 I mean, this is serious.

00:12:07.000 It's dangerous for me to even be talking about this.

00:12:09.000 I've been threatened over it.

00:12:11.000 But we've got to tell the truth here.

00:12:12.000 Of course, you know who the Deputy Attorney General was.

00:12:15.000 He's the Attorney General today.

00:12:17.000 But 17 years ago, he was the Deputy Attorney General.

00:12:19.000 And lawsuits via lawyer Jesse Trinidou and others have gotten the foyer documents, because a good federal judge has ordered them released, where the feds were running the white supremacist compound with the Southern Poverty Law Center that McVeigh was at.

00:12:33.000 Confirming Terry Nichols' affidavit that McVeigh was really a deep cover national security asset who believed he was about to stop and bust the bombing in the process.

00:12:43.000 Or that they were going to let it go forward but then blame groups.

00:12:46.000 But then when McVeigh was told that they were going to blow up a daycare center and let it go forward, he flipped out.

00:12:52.000 So they, I guess, picked him to burn him as a patsy.

00:12:56.000 So we're going to be discussing that coming up in the second hour today.

00:13:03.000 We probably should get Don Browning back on too, head of the K-9 unit, Sergeant Browning.

00:13:08.000 He balked though, and I said, say the name of the FBI agents, and you'd see him kind of flush.

00:13:12.000 He went, and then later started saying some names because it's just hard for people.

00:13:21.000 Imagine, at the Oklahoma City Police Department, in the hall and coming into his office, repeatedly, saying, you and your wife are going to be dead.

00:13:31.000 Do you understand me?

00:13:33.000 That's who runs America.

00:13:36.000 Imagine walking into a sergeant's office at a police department and saying you and your wife are dead.

00:13:45.000 And yes, Austin FBI, I've gotten your message that you're listening and want me to be nice.

00:13:50.000 Nice like Terence Yeakey when the FBI pulled him over and tortured every inch of his body?

00:13:56.000 You mean nice like cop of the year getting tortured to death?

00:14:00.000 And then shot in the back of the head and the police department all knew he was murdered but told all the cops shut up?

00:14:05.000 Jane Graham's a witness to that.

00:14:07.000 She can name the police officers that told her that.

00:14:10.000 This is who runs America.

00:14:12.000 Ruthless criminal mafia.

00:14:16.000 With badges. 0.99

00:14:17.000 And you better grow up and admit that.

00:14:19.000 We're not in Kansas anymore.

00:14:21.000 And I'm not here covering this to be shocking.

00:14:25.000 I don't like sticking my head in a lion's mouth for no reason.

00:14:30.000 I've got to do this.

00:14:31.000 I've got to go into the lion's den because we don't have any future if we don't start saying no to this.

00:14:37.000 I told you six years ago Bush was shipping guns into Mexico to cause that war.

00:14:43.000 Then it continued under Obama and he shipped even more in and blamed the Second Amendment.

00:14:48.000 Congresswoman Giffords, we've confirmed, was beginning an investigation into it with Judge Roll.

00:14:53.000 You know what happened to them.

00:14:58.000 And I told you that it would be used to blame the Second Amendment.

00:15:01.000 Even though they got caught, they went ahead and used it against the Second Amendment.

00:15:05.000 They've called for assault weapon sales bans and manufacturing bans.

00:15:09.000 And CBS even got the memo that indeed they did it to blame the Second Amendment.

00:15:14.000 If you'll ship tens of thousands of guns to drug gangs in Mexico to destabilize the country to blame the Second Amendment, and thousands have been killed, Mexico estimates over 2,000 on their side, hundreds on our side, including three federal and three local law enforcement people.

00:15:31.000 That's six.

00:15:34.000 That's conservative.

00:15:35.000 That's a false flag that killed thousands and thousands of people.

00:15:42.000 Who did it?

00:15:43.000 John P. Holdren.

00:15:46.000 These people mean business.

00:15:49.000 He needs something to brainwash you, as he said on C-SPAN.

00:15:53.000 He met with the heads of the media.

00:15:55.000 This was back when he was Deputy Attorney General.

00:15:57.000 Guys, cue up the brainwashing clip, please. 0.75

00:15:59.000 They're new listeners.

00:15:59.000 People won't believe it.

00:16:01.000 And he said, I work with the media to brainwash the public in the schools and through TV.

00:16:06.000 We've got to brainwash, he said, literally brainwash people.

00:16:12.000 They want to win.

00:16:14.000 And they'll ship guns into Mexico and narcotics back in to do it. 1.00

00:16:18.000 They'll blow up federal buildings and pick one with a daycare center to get this power. 1.00

00:16:26.000 Undoubtedly, the Attorney General today was involved in the cover-up.

00:16:31.000 Did he run the operation?

00:16:32.000 I don't know that.

00:16:34.000 We know the ATF was at the very head of it.

00:16:37.000 The point is he was involved in the cover-up and hence aiding and abetting.

00:16:41.000 People have been tortured to death to bring you this information.

00:16:45.000 Tortured to death to bring you this information.

00:16:49.000 Let me say it again.

00:16:50.000 Tortured to death to bring you this information.

00:17:00.000 Or you can just give up and say do whatever you want.

00:17:03.000 Have the TSA on highway checkpoints, abusing everybody, take everybody's property, jack up taxes, bankrupt the country, bring in the New World Order, roll over to it, shell out to it.

00:17:17.000 I mean, the elite better study history.

00:17:19.000 They've created such a giant army of piranha murderers in the corporate and military and police systems of enforcement. 0.53

00:17:28.000 That they're not going to be controlled.

00:17:29.000 They're going to run their own criminal operations.

00:17:32.000 Things are going to spiral out of control, just like Mexico. 1.00

00:17:35.000 Mexico now wants to decriminalize.

00:17:37.000 They used to, they wanted to keep it illegal to make the big profits off drugs.

00:17:40.000 Now, they're a failed state collapsing, and so is the rest of Latin America that allows drugs to be illegal. 0.64

00:17:45.000 And so they're saying, legalize it.

00:17:48.000 Even though it'll take the profits out, because it's destroyed everything else.

00:17:52.000 Crime and corruption will destroy civilization.

00:17:58.000 Civilization is imploding right now.

00:18:01.000 Everywhere.

00:18:02.000 Families are imploding.

00:18:04.000 Common sense is falling apart.

00:18:06.000 Every metric, every measurement, every yardstick, every gauge, every bellwether, every weather vane, every indicator of which way the wind's blowing is total Roman-style collapse accelerated.

00:18:23.000 The elite are all moving out of the country to armored redoubts in the middle of nowhere. 0.95

00:18:26.000 You've wrecked everything!

00:18:28.000 You've been so good at evil, so good at pure wickedness.

00:18:32.000 You can't help it, though, because they're all like piranhas in a frenzy competing with each other to rob and steal and using the most vicious high-tech brainwashing, most vicious anti-family system to neutralize and wreck America's basic common sense.

00:18:49.000 They've annihilated the individuals Navigation system, the individual's compass, your conscience. 0.66

00:18:56.000 They've turned the average person into a gibbering, demonic, jellyfish creature. 0.99

00:19:02.000 And now we're seeing a country of demonic jellyfish just flailing around in their own excrement. 0.94

00:19:09.000 Meanwhile, a large portion of us, a large minority, are awake and are semi-immune thanks to God's good grace and his mind control. 0.91

00:19:16.000 And we're sitting here watching the horror and the lunacy and the craziness of what's unfolding.

00:19:22.000 Coming up, Senator Rand Paul concerned Interpol could arrest Americans under foreign laws An extra dietist denounces Obama's continual bypassing of Congress.

00:19:32.000 That text and videos up.

00:19:34.000 Rand Paul leaves door open for VP slot.

00:19:36.000 Amazing breaking news on that front.

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00:19:44.000 Red Alert or Coney and CISPA bill picking up sponsors ahead of vote next week.

00:19:49.000 Judge recuses herself in the Trayvon Martin case. 0.99

00:19:53.000 We've got the jobless weekly data.

00:19:55.000 We've got it all coming up.

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00:24:18.000 Blame for bee collapse. 0.98

00:24:20.000 Monsanto buys leading bee research firm to shut them up.

00:24:27.000 Meanwhile, the Trayvon Martin case.

00:24:31.000 George Zimmerman trial judge recuses herself because her husband is a legal analyst on CNN that George Zimmerman had approached about being his lawyer. 0.52

00:24:44.000 And for such a little thing like that, she recuses herself because he hadn't become her lawyer.

00:24:51.000 But then meanwhile, almost all of the FDA and EPA regulators, look it up, I mean the head regulator is a former executive of Monsanto.

00:25:01.000 And the few that aren't are Archer Daniels Midland or other genetic engineering, big pharma slash big agri companies.

00:25:09.000 I mean, talk about conflict of interest.

00:25:12.000 Congress, many members of Congress vote on bills to fund companies they own.

00:25:20.000 Not just that their wives own stock in, or their husbands.

00:25:25.000 And they go, well, we're allowed to.

00:25:27.000 Because we just said we have an exemption.

00:25:30.000 It's like the head of the CIA says, yeah, we're watching you through all your different appliances, smart meters.

00:25:34.000 We're going to control your whole life.

00:25:36.000 The Fourth Amendment doesn't mean what it used to.

00:25:38.000 You can go read the quote.

00:25:39.000 Fourth Amendment doesn't mean what it used to.

00:25:43.000 Because I say so, Jack.

00:25:46.000 And Tenth Amendment, we got the TSA on street corners in plainclothes listening to you and now going into restaurants.

00:25:53.000 And like Forbes is saying, So is the Atlantic.

00:25:56.000 Well, this won't work.

00:25:57.000 I mean, how are you going to find terrorists randomly?

00:25:59.000 It isn't meant to find terrorists.

00:26:01.000 Those guys work for the bankers, on record.

00:26:04.000 It's meant to intimidate everybody.

00:26:06.000 And they admit they're listening not for terrorists, but criminals.

00:26:09.000 And political speech that could lead to problems.

00:26:12.000 Yeah, that's a free society.

00:26:13.000 Let's just randomly have people on buses and street corners listening to what people say.

00:26:19.000 I mean, that's directly out of every nightmare science fiction novel.

00:26:24.000 Or real places like Cambodia, Communist China, Nazi Germany.

00:26:29.000 I mean, it's here.

00:26:31.000 But that's enough of me.

00:26:32.000 Let's start going to your phone calls.

00:26:34.000 Bob in Michigan.

00:26:35.000 Welcome.

00:26:37.000 Hi Alex, yep, this is Bob from Michigan.

00:26:39.000 I appreciate you taking my call and long-time listener, very long time.

00:26:44.000 I just want to make this really brief because there's really a lot of information here.

00:26:48.000 There's, as I see it, there's probably several things that are being used to control us.

00:26:54.000 That's medicine and healing, energy certainly, And events that are a little bit off the wall like this unfortunate business in Japan.

00:27:06.000 I want to refer just to two basic websites I could talk for hours on this.

00:27:12.000 The first one is Tom Bearden, and this has nothing to do with HARP or anything else that's been talked about.

00:27:19.000 This is the real deal.

00:27:20.000 Let me spell it for you because it's French, actually.

00:27:26.000 It's, uh, c-h-e-n-i-e-r-e dot org, pronounced shenny, dot org.

00:27:33.000 Let me just go down real quick on the table of contents here.

00:27:36.000 Uh, there's, uh, been a healing machine that was used and suppressed.

00:27:42.000 Uh, that's on, uh, the table of contents there.

00:27:45.000 It explains that.

00:27:46.000 I couldn't possibly in five minutes or six minutes or whatever even explain it.

00:27:52.000 It's there.

00:27:53.000 I'm just telling people that if they want to go look at this because we need more people to get active in looking at the real solutions here.

00:28:01.000 There's a lot of people claim they got magic machines that heal people.

00:28:04.000 I have sponsor opportunities all the time where they claim this, you know, life machines and all this.

00:28:10.000 And I know that there's been some research with different wavelengths and things, but then that doesn't mean that every person that claims they have a machine, you know, that it does exactly what they're saying.

00:28:20.000 I think in some cases there's some reality to it, in other cases some of this stuff is a fraud.

00:28:25.000 Well, that's right.

00:28:26.000 But this cuts away all the mysterious stuff.

00:28:29.000 That's why I'm saying go read it for yourself.

00:28:32.000 Is this your website?

00:28:34.000 Pardon me?

00:28:35.000 Is it your website?

00:28:37.000 No.

00:28:38.000 No, it's Dr. Bearden's website.

00:28:40.000 Okay, well listen, do me a favor, send me a link to that and I will check it out.

00:28:46.000 Sir, what else did you call in about today?

00:28:48.000 Oh, nothing else except you're doing a marvelous job, and I'm a long-time listener and shortwave, and God bless you and stay safe.

00:28:56.000 Thank you.

00:28:56.000 Let me ask you this question.

00:28:58.000 What do you make of the fact that they're just coming out in the open with all this world government, illegal surveillance, secret arrest, smart meters tracking everything in your home?

00:29:09.000 I mean, a huge program with all the companies building in all the tech as a Trojan horse.

00:29:16.000 It's just so monstrous.

00:29:18.000 Well, it would have been done earlier, only the technology was not off the shelf in any number of the situations in history.

00:29:27.000 So, the actions aren't really that surprising.

00:29:30.000 It's that they're using a lot of this advanced technology.

00:29:34.000 And, like I said, I don't know where you want me to email that.

00:29:38.000 Well, you know what?

00:29:40.000 I think I got the site.

00:29:41.000 I'll look it up.

00:29:42.000 But you can send stuff to ShowTipsAndInfoWars.com.

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00:32:56.000 Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.

00:33:15.000 50,000 unstoppable wants.

00:33:28.000 It's right.

00:33:29.000 We're talking about millions of unstoppable watts here on this syndicated transmission.

00:33:35.000 Blasting out of the AM and FM dial, XM channel 166, number one worldwide for talk radio according to every major metric with downloads, audio streams, and the podcast, InfoWars.com.

00:33:49.000 I'm your host, Alex Jones.

00:33:50.000 And again, being number one on the internet and also very dominant in the top 10 or so on terrestrial radio is a Indicator of the power of ideas and that people are hungry for liberty and freedom and for hardcore information.

00:34:10.000 I was talking to a national media figure yesterday who was totally freaked out about the fact that they were basically taken into the smoky room and told, look, you'll get all this power, even more power, but yes, you've got to stop talking about the things that you're talking about.

00:34:30.000 I know it's the speech Glenn Beck got.

00:34:33.000 And to his credit, he did not sell out and had to leave Fox News.

00:34:38.000 But they do not like the fact that I'm on air here.

00:34:42.000 And believe me, and I've talked to people in high-level intelligence groups, it has been discussed having me killed.

00:34:50.000 It's been discussed killing many other media figures that don't play ball with the New World Order.

00:34:54.000 But the globalists know everything's surveilled by other groups and different factions and they can then be blackmailed with that.

00:35:00.000 And it's a very dangerous game to start killing media people in the United States.

00:35:05.000 It's been done before.

00:35:06.000 But if someone is extremely prominent and has already put out such a huge body of work, killing them highlights, underlines, puts a hundred exclamation points, And bullhorns out that information.

00:35:23.000 When you get killed is when you have absolute eyewitness accounts and proof of crimes inside the system.

00:35:33.000 That's the type of thing that could sink the globalists.

00:35:34.000 They would rather try to assassinate my character.

00:35:37.000 I do that on my own sometimes just because I'm so real.

00:35:40.000 And it is unscripted.

00:35:42.000 The information is out there.

00:35:42.000 But it doesn't matter.

00:35:45.000 And if I was to die tomorrow, God forbid I'll never commit suicide, I know that.

00:35:49.000 But if I was to die tomorrow, I've already had a big victory and so have you.

00:35:55.000 In fact, I have an example of that that we're going to show later of people putting Infowars.com on their cars.

00:36:04.000 And just the power of that, all the people they're meeting, the like-minded people they're finding, people wearing Infowars.com shirts to work, and finding out that other people were listeners, and it's creating community.

00:36:16.000 You can do that with a Ron Paul shirt as well.

00:36:19.000 It's flying your colors that you love freedom, and you're awake, and you know what's going on.

00:36:25.000 If you go to our Facebook page and click on the photos wall, you can see it.

00:36:31.000 Photos, videos, Alex Jones.

00:36:31.000 There it is.

00:36:33.000 A lot of the listeners, every day I see new ones post the side of their barn, spraypaintedinfowars.com, or street art, or People riding on the money, or people riding on the bathroom walls.

00:36:43.000 I'm not really condoning that.

00:36:45.000 Or putting it on their cars.

00:36:47.000 Amazing!

00:36:49.000 I'm here risking my life, my treasure, my name, my family, because I want the great goal, the great jewel of freedom in our time and incredible freedom and exploration and discovery for our children to come.

00:37:02.000 All right, let me go back to the calls before I get into news and then never get back to the calls.

00:37:08.000 But coming up, Egyptian presidential frontrunner promises tougher line on Israel.

00:37:14.000 Why would the West kick out the old dictator, that I'm not saying Mubarak was good, but did everything the West wanted?

00:37:21.000 And why would they put in the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda-affiliated groups?

00:37:25.000 Because they're getting ready for the clash of civilizations.

00:37:29.000 Why do they put the underwear bomber on the plane?

00:37:31.000 Why do they train the driver, give him the bomb, the detonators, and the first World Trade Center attack?

00:37:36.000 Why do they train Mohammed Adda at U.S.

00:37:39.000 military bases, AP, Reuters, Newsweek?

00:37:42.000 Why did they order the U.S.

00:37:43.000 Embassy to let him and six others in, even though they were flagged as terrorists?

00:37:47.000 They told them they're CIA agents.

00:37:49.000 Their terror designation is a cover.

00:37:51.000 They're double agents.

00:37:52.000 They were taking part in drills in the week before.

00:37:55.000 They were just taking part in a simulation of hijacking an aircraft to see if they could penetrate.

00:38:00.000 They were set up, as you do know.

00:38:03.000 Operation Northwoods, 2001.

00:38:05.000 We even know the name of the umbrella drill.

00:38:11.000 Tripod 2!

00:38:12.000 The stuff we talk about on this show has the NSA's wires burning.

00:38:18.000 Not even so much listening to me, watching who in government is listening.

00:38:24.000 And the system now knows, whoa!

00:38:26.000 70 plus percent of all donations from the military were to Ron Paul.

00:38:32.000 For all political candidates, Republican and Democrat.

00:38:34.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:38:36.000 Alex Jones' information is on fire.

00:38:38.000 When I tell you that I Met with a Navy SEAL that I have known through certain ways for several years, I'll leave it at that, through family.

00:38:53.000 And he said, yes, SEAL Team 6 knows that their helicopter was blown up and they know the Bin Laden thing's fake. 0.97

00:39:03.000 And then I get contacted by a high-level intelligence group and they tell me directly that A sub-director of the CIA by name says you're right.

00:39:18.000 The bin Laden thing's fake. 0.96

00:39:19.000 Thank you for what you're doing.

00:39:21.000 I mean, it's like Steve Pachetnik, who's CFR, wrote a bunch of these movies that Harrison Ford's in, wrote many of the first books with Tom Clancy, famous guy who overthrew heads of state.

00:39:33.000 I mean, this guy's like the E. Howard Hunt type, but beyond that, a psychiatrist.

00:39:39.000 And he's calling up saying, yeah, the 9-11's an inside job, the military's waking up, the people in intelligence appreciate what you're doing.

00:39:46.000 Because the truth is, most of these people Have done a lot of things that some would see as terrible, but they don't.

00:39:52.000 They did it because they thought they were fighting communism.

00:39:54.000 Now as they see it becoming America, it's really waking people up.

00:39:59.000 When, I mean, he, he, he, Pachinik used to talk about how he thought Petraeus was a good guy because he worked with him.

00:40:04.000 He's come out and said Petraeus should resign.

00:40:06.000 He's a disgrace for coming out and saying the CIA is spying on everybody domestically and, you know, all this police state is good.

00:40:16.000 It's just, it's out in the open! 1.00

00:40:18.000 America has been overrun by scum! 1.00

00:40:23.000 And people throughout the system have got to gut up. 1.00

00:40:27.000 Whether you're an individual, whether you're a civilian, whether you're a police officer, military, whoever you are, you're gonna have to start standing up somehow.

00:40:35.000 And I'm not saying first day go out and, you know, really throw it all on the line, but start doing little things.

00:40:42.000 Because little things together move mountains.

00:40:45.000 Because the only way out of this is standing up.

00:40:48.000 The only way, I've always said this, I'm afraid of being afraid.

00:40:52.000 Being afraid does not feel good.

00:40:55.000 Being afraid is the mind killer, to quote Frank Herbert, the little death.

00:41:00.000 I know the French say an orgasm is a little death, but for me, the little death is fear.

00:41:10.000 And when you let fear pass through you and over you, then it becomes strength.

00:41:17.000 It becomes strength.

00:41:18.000 I love life so much that I'm willing to give mine up in defense of freedom.

00:41:26.000 Alright, let's go to your phone calls.

00:41:28.000 Tim in Alaska, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:41:30.000 Hey Alex Jones, how you doing?

00:41:34.000 I'm angry because it starts out when they circumcised me at birth. 0.77

00:41:38.000 And then I went on and my parents got divorced at 12 years old.

00:41:41.000 And the new world order just convinced them that, you know, you had to be independent.

00:41:47.000 And I went on.

00:41:48.000 I had to live in government subsidized housing.

00:41:50.000 But I came out of it.

00:41:51.000 I'm from Detroit.

00:41:52.000 My great-grandfather, in 1942, Retired.

00:41:56.000 And my uncle is a millwright.

00:41:56.000 From Ford.

00:41:58.000 He was a millwright.

00:41:59.000 It goes all throughout my family.

00:42:00.000 And I just want to say to all those people in Michigan that you need to get up and stand up and get out there and do something.

00:42:05.000 I had to do something.

00:42:07.000 I had to get out of there.

00:42:08.000 I had to move away.

00:42:09.000 I came up to Alaska where there's oil.

00:42:11.000 And I had to have two kids.

00:42:13.000 And those two kids are uncircumcised.

00:42:15.000 And they're non-vaccinated.

00:42:17.000 And they're vibrant.

00:42:17.000 And they're live.

00:42:18.000 And they're healthy.

00:42:19.000 And how do you like that, New World Order?

00:42:21.000 That's what I gotta say right now.

00:42:24.000 Well God bless you and I really appreciate your call and love your anger because the anger is the beginning of getting motivated.

00:42:30.000 As for circumcision, I never even thought of it as a big issue.

00:42:35.000 And people are always pointing it out to me and the more I research it, it is basically sexual mutilation at many levels.

00:42:44.000 and i can understand that sometimes it does get infected there's an argument that it's got a medical reason it's a big debate and it really upsets a lot of people that have been circumcised uh...

00:42:44.000 uh...

00:42:56.000 i don't want to get into i mean i'm i'm circumcised and most people in america most protestants at least you have been circumcised I mean, I think back around the time I was born about 90% of people were.

00:43:09.000 I've never, I mean, I guess you don't know what you've lost if you never had it.

00:43:14.000 So I never, I mean, I understand a lot of people are really upset about it and feel like something was stolen from them.

00:43:21.000 And I get it.

00:43:24.000 I totally get it.

00:43:26.000 But again, it's like when you're born into something, you don't recognize it.

00:43:31.000 And so, I think the issue is, a newborn can't make the decision on whether they want it or not, so they shouldn't be.

00:43:42.000 You know, that's the issue.

00:43:44.000 And circumcision, you know, is a way so people could tell, are you part of this group?

00:43:49.000 Are you part of this tribe?

00:43:51.000 And then it got, you know, adopted into Christianity.

00:43:54.000 Um, and it's just a, it's just a standard thing.

00:43:58.000 But I, um, I do hear what you're saying.

00:44:00.000 That's the thing about when I just opened the phones up, no screening the calls, just randomly taking calls.

00:44:06.000 It'll go on a lot of different directions.

00:44:08.000 But, um, People say, well, what's the difference of what the Muslims do when they cut away a part of the female organ? 0.94

00:44:18.000 And when it's put in that context, you're like, yeah, I get it.

00:44:24.000 But then I've talked to medical doctors and people and they're like, no, we see a lot of problems with people that aren't circumcised, infections and things.

00:44:32.000 But then that becomes the issue of, there's like people suing Apple right now saying the apps are addictive.

00:44:40.000 For children.

00:44:41.000 Well yeah, it's rewiring their brains.

00:44:43.000 Moderate use of it is causing brain damage.

00:44:46.000 Because it's not normal.

00:44:47.000 Humans were never designed for this.

00:44:49.000 It's making their attention spans tiny.

00:44:51.000 It's a fact.

00:44:52.000 Massive studies out there.

00:44:53.000 I told you about it years ago.

00:44:55.000 Now it's admitted.

00:44:57.000 I had the studies then, but now it's a big issue.

00:44:59.000 But I'm like, why are you letting your children do this then?

00:45:02.000 I mean, I go to restaurants now.

00:45:04.000 And most of the children have iPhones or iPads so the parents can do what they want, and the parents are on smartphones doing it.

00:45:10.000 And I've made a point that it'll be 7 o'clock at night, I'm eating dinner, one of the, you know, I've left to go eat dinner, I'll eat with my wife and the kids or something.

00:45:21.000 Rob Duke calls up working late going, hey, what do you want to call this video, part of the report?

00:45:26.000 And I'm like, oh, call it this, or what do you think?

00:45:30.000 Or they'll call and say, have you seen this?

00:45:31.000 And they text it to me and I look at it.

00:45:33.000 But I'm just making myself now turn it off, put it in my pocket, and check it in little controlled bursts because it's dominating my life as well.

00:45:44.000 So again, when you're just introduced to something and slowly ease into it, like the frog in the boiling pot of water, if it's slowly turned up, you roast, you boil.

00:45:54.000 And that's what's happening now.

00:45:57.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Alan in California.

00:45:59.000 You're on the air.

00:46:01.000 Hey Alex, how you doing?

00:46:02.000 Good.

00:46:02.000 I just want to say you are an amazing man.

00:46:05.000 You woke me up probably about a year and a half ago.

00:46:08.000 I actually found you through Jesse Ventura on Conspiracy Theory.

00:46:11.000 I used to work in radio.

00:46:13.000 I was a complete sheeple.

00:46:14.000 I, you know, voted for Obama.

00:46:16.000 I mean, he suckered me.

00:46:17.000 I found you guys and started researching and I remember, I'm like, yeah, that Alex Jones guy, I remember hearing him, you know, through the radio.

00:46:26.000 And just look things up.

00:46:27.000 I woke up my best friend and he works at a fast food place.

00:46:31.000 What he does is he actually puts your show on at night.

00:46:33.000 He's a manager, so he plugs in your show at night so that his customers will listen and he spreads the word.

00:46:39.000 We started a Facebook group, if you'll allow me to kind of say that.

00:46:42.000 I want you to, yeah.

00:46:43.000 What is it?

00:46:43.000 Yeah, it's a Facebook group and it's Awake USA.

00:46:47.000 We started with seven people.

00:46:48.000 We're about at 145 people.

00:46:50.000 Then it's been online maybe about five, six months.

00:46:53.000 So it's growing like crazy.

00:46:54.000 What I wanted to ask you is, um, you actually, before you started the reporter contest, we wanted to call you and ask you if you would ever consider having kind of like a cub reporter type thing, something that you don't have to pay.

00:47:05.000 Cause us living here in San Diego, we have tons of military and Navy going on.

00:47:09.000 Absolutely.

00:47:10.000 Look, I'm trying to grow my operation to where I have the managers who can then go through affiliate reporters because for liability and stuff you can be infiltrated with a fake reporter who then gets some cred just to get close to you and then they make up lies to create a COINTELPRO deal.

00:47:29.000 We see that a lot.

00:47:30.000 But if people are just affiliates And then we plug the name of their site or their Facebook, you know, like, your name, AwakeUSA, like, here's Alan, whatever your last name is, AwakeUSA, reporting for InfoWars.com, and then it's courtesy.

00:47:48.000 We can have reporters all over the country, but more importantly, because my doors are being beaten down with this, and it's what people want, and it's true.

00:47:57.000 We need Australian affiliates.

00:48:00.000 England, Germany, Russia, Mexico.

00:48:03.000 We want... It gets harder when you get into other languages, though, because, again, we don't have the interpreters or people to check it all.

00:48:10.000 I mean, we do, but then they're all busy.

00:48:12.000 And we have folks that do speak Spanish.

00:48:13.000 A lot of folks who know how to read it.

00:48:15.000 It's just that it gets harder with language interface, obviously.

00:48:18.000 But that's a whole plan we've got.

00:48:19.000 We need a few more reporters here so we can send them places every week and have them reporting.

00:48:25.000 A male and female reporter.

00:48:27.000 And we may even hire more.

00:48:28.000 It's how much capital we can bring in through sponsors, through things like that.

00:48:33.000 But then, yes, we can have affiliate reporters who are from their organization reporting for InfoWars.com, and then they get the consideration of the truth getting out, but also their website plugged, and then attention on InfoWars.com.

00:48:48.000 That is our plan.

00:48:49.000 That is where we're going.

00:48:51.000 I'll do that for you, Alex, because we have a lot of stuff.

00:48:54.000 Like I said, for example, we were here, being here in San Diego, have a friend who likes airplanes, and the Tijuana Airport is right next to the border.

00:49:00.000 We went over there to watch it, and we had, I'm not kidding you, four DHS Border Patrol cars come right up to us, and they were asking, Are we waiting for drugs to be thrown over?

00:49:11.000 And I wasn't awake when this happened or else I would have, you know, I would have said something.

00:49:15.000 I was like, no, what do you think?

00:49:16.000 Are you kidding me?

00:49:17.000 Can we look through your car?

00:49:18.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:49:18.000 I'm like, are we doing something wrong?

00:49:19.000 You know, they were just like all over us.

00:49:21.000 It's like, this is something I wish I would have had my, my iPhone out and I would have sent this right away.

00:49:25.000 It's like, they're just all over you for no reason.

00:49:28.000 The way they handle it is the minute they pull up, just say, hey guys, we're just citizen reporters out here doing a border story.

00:49:34.000 And when they start asking for stuff, just say, come on, man.

00:49:37.000 You know, use your brain.

00:49:38.000 We're not drug dealers.

00:49:40.000 And if they start getting more, just say, don't violate my rights.

00:49:43.000 You wouldn't want yours violated.

00:49:44.000 They say, hey, let us look at your car.

00:49:46.000 Say, can I look in yours?

00:49:47.000 Because statistically, the Border Patrol has been caught bringing in a lot of drugs.

00:49:51.000 So statistically, not saying you're bad individually, statistically, The M.O.

00:49:56.000 if I profile you is that you're a drug dealer.

00:49:58.000 That's what I say to Border Patrol a hundred miles in when they want to search my car.

00:50:02.000 I say, no you can't.

00:50:03.000 You want to make a big scene?

00:50:04.000 Go ahead.

00:50:05.000 By the way, I know your bosses ship in narcotics.

00:50:08.000 And usually at that point they smile and go, get on out of here.

00:50:10.000 And I'm like, yeah.

00:50:11.000 Because let me tell you, I got to say about half the Border Patrol from the intel I've got, who's in management, is taking money.

00:50:19.000 I mean, you look at New York narcotics police, Serpico said it was about 100%.

00:50:23.000 A few years after he left, they fired 76% of their narcotics detectives.

00:50:30.000 I mean, so, it's just amazing.

00:50:32.000 So, hey, don't wait for orders from headquarters.

00:50:36.000 We're having a contest where you win $5,000 a piece, a man and woman, or two different groups, but you could do the report now and enter it, and then if you don't want to come work here, that's fine.

00:50:47.000 The contest is for the money and then to be looked at in the running.

00:50:52.000 And boy, we're getting some good ones coming in.

00:50:53.000 It's amazing.

00:50:54.000 We'll be right back with more phone calls straight ahead.

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00:54:22.000 Headlines at Infowars.com.

00:54:24.000 Rights group demands investigation into illegal Google wiretapping.

00:54:29.000 The Justice Department's closed down their fake investigation of their Street View system.

00:54:33.000 That's all.

00:54:34.000 Google is the government, folks.

00:54:37.000 Continuing, Queen Beatrix's brother-in-law calls for mandatory birth control for the unfit.

00:54:44.000 More eugenics from the environmental group leader.

00:54:47.000 World Wildlife Fund crew.

00:54:48.000 Red Alert, Draconian, SISPA Bill picking up sponsors ahead of votes next week.

00:54:54.000 Rand Paul leaves door open for VP slot.

00:54:56.000 That's pretty big breaking news.

00:54:58.000 It had only been second-hand statements by...

00:55:02.000 Jesse Benton and people, who heads up his dad's campaign, but he's just leaving the door open.

00:55:08.000 I want to get your take on that.

00:55:10.000 Senator Rand Paul says he's concerned Interpol could arrest Americans under foreign laws.

00:55:14.000 That's the big issue.

00:55:16.000 People are like, well Interpol already arrests people.

00:55:18.000 Yeah, when there's an agreement with the country that Interpol's working for in Europe, that's when that happens.

00:55:24.000 Like, oh yeah, we have extradition agreements with you for murder and things.

00:55:28.000 This is just, you're under European law, we're coming to arrest you for your speech or whatever.

00:55:33.000 Your cars that have become part of the Internet of Things, it's all part of that Google Panopticon spy system, it's all up at InfoWars.com.

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01:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:23.000 Gus and Wally, I'm gonna at least get to your two calls right now.

01:00:26.000 Everybody else can hold if you'd like, because I've got guests coming up.

01:00:30.000 With breaking news on Oklahoma City and key testimony by a star witness of the inside job attack.

01:00:36.000 That's all coming up.

01:00:39.000 Then the third hour news blitz.

01:00:40.000 Your phone calls continue here today.

01:00:43.000 Got the big news making Rand Paul interview.

01:00:45.000 The video of that up at Infowars.com right now.

01:00:48.000 Right now let's go to Gus in California.

01:00:50.000 You're on the air Gus.

01:00:52.000 Hi Alex.

01:00:53.000 Good buddy.

01:00:53.000 How are you?

01:00:56.000 My daughter spends some weekends with your friend Dave in Pamp.

01:01:04.000 Oh cool!

01:01:04.000 So she's friends with the Mustangs?

01:01:07.000 Yeah, they go to school together.

01:01:12.000 And I'm a long time listener and I'm calling and I finally got through and you know it's very depressing seeing what we're seeing because it's like there's no way around this, you know?

01:01:32.000 Yeah, well you know what would happen if citizens started picking out cameras and deciding they'd disappear, they'd remove them.

01:01:37.000 People started attacking all the cameras in Arizona, they're pulling them out.

01:01:40.000 I'm not saying do that, but yes, it's overwhelming because the globalists are just doing whatever they want.

01:01:47.000 They don't care.

01:01:48.000 They're just exercising power against us.

01:01:50.000 We're going to have to start exercising power.

01:01:53.000 You start looking for opportunities to peacefully sabotage the globalists?

01:01:58.000 Let's say you live next door to an elitist, or you're serving an elitist dinner, and you hear them talking about criminal stuff.

01:02:04.000 Just put it out there.

01:02:06.000 Start getting aggressive.

01:02:07.000 There's ways, look, it's like Fight Club. 0.80

01:02:09.000 Wherever Tyler Durden goes, people are like, hey, I get it.

01:02:13.000 Most people aren't prominent in a fight for liberty, so they don't know how many other people are awake.

01:02:19.000 I am prominent.

01:02:20.000 I do know. 0.91

01:02:21.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

01:02:23.000 Now, I can go to a restaurant in another city or another country, and half the people come over to me.

01:02:28.000 And I can barely buy myself dinner.

01:02:30.000 And everybody's winking and saying, we know what's going on.

01:02:33.000 Or I see Austin cops and they stop and go, we're awake.

01:02:36.000 You know, riding their bicycles downtown.

01:02:38.000 I'm like, okay, you're awake, do something.

01:02:41.000 See, people are awake, they're just not doing something.

01:02:43.000 Or they see the other half who isn't awake, Gus, and they think, well, nobody cares.

01:02:48.000 I mean, what do you think?

01:02:51.000 I think it's very depressing because nobody's doing anything.

01:02:56.000 When I watched this lady yesterday, you know, go ahead and tell the truth and she goes out and she says, I told the people in the building and they go, well, my government wouldn't do that.

01:03:10.000 Well, what's wrong with humanity?

01:03:11.000 You know, I think they have reverse Munchausen by proxy or something like that.

01:03:17.000 No, no, I agree with you.

01:03:18.000 They want to be abused by the government, but it's Stockholm Syndrome, really.

01:03:22.000 Where about 40% on average of people, depends on the nation, state, and the group, and their history, but around 40%, if they get kidnapped, will start worshipping the kidnappers and join them.

01:03:35.000 And fight for the kidnappers.

01:03:37.000 Because people decide to rationalize and just be part of it.

01:03:40.000 We have massive Stockholm Syndrome.

01:03:40.000 No, no, you're right.

01:03:44.000 It's ridiculous, I mean, they killed the President, they killed his son, they, they, like, I'm listening, Sonny Bono, I, all this time I honestly thought, you know, and I'm a, I'm a, one of those conspiracy nuts, they call me, you know, like, there's no way you're gonna convince me there were any terrorists on 9-11, because there's no way an aluminum airplane can go through a building. 0.60

01:04:05.000 Just go watch the footage of that military jet that fell in San Diego a couple of weeks ago, okay? 0.94

01:04:11.000 It fell into a brick, No, that's it.

01:04:13.000 No steel building of that type had ever fallen from fire.

01:04:15.000 They've had big jets hit them before.

01:04:17.000 They've burned for weeks sometimes.

01:04:18.000 People think that two airplanes could go through. - No steel building of that type had ever fallen from fire.

01:04:28.000 They've had big jets hit them before.

01:04:30.000 They burn for weeks sometimes, nothing falls, but a little bitty supports.

01:04:35.000 And insurance now is having to reevaluate and charge more for big buildings.

01:04:40.000 And they're saying now they can fall, even though their internal science at Underwater Laboratory says it's impossible.

01:04:46.000 I mean, pretty soon you can say you blow at a building.

01:04:48.000 If they said an Easter Bunny blew on the buildings, then they would have to stop building buildings, because an Easter Bunny might blow on them again.

01:04:56.000 It's all fantasy land.

01:04:57.000 Great points.

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01:08:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:08:12.000 Hollen van den Neuenhoff, one of the writers and producers of A Noble Lie, Oklahoma City 1995, is our guest for the next hour or so, along with the director James Lane.

01:08:28.000 And I had James on last night with Jane Graham, one of the survivors of the globalist bombing 17 years ago today of the Alfred P. Murrow building in Oklahoma City.

01:08:41.000 And to go over the evidence of this is mind-blowing.

01:08:45.000 How much of an inside job it is, and how totally proven.

01:08:49.000 Like, with 9-11, we know the official story's a lie.

01:08:52.000 We know who had the motive.

01:08:53.000 We know PNAC wrote documents that it would help to have a big terror attack, to take the liberties and launch wars.

01:08:59.000 3,000 dead would be good, Dick Cheney said.

01:09:02.000 September 20th, 2000, Rebuilding America's Defense is PNAC.

01:09:05.000 Look it up.

01:09:06.000 They have their own website, they're proud of it.

01:09:08.000 All these White House memos that are out now, three of them from advisors saying Oklahoma City or new 9-11 is the only way you're getting re-elected.

01:09:16.000 You can blame your enemies with it.

01:09:18.000 Gee, we sure need this.

01:09:20.000 They're like saying they're doing it. 0.99

01:09:22.000 That's how dumb they think we are. 0.97

01:09:25.000 And it's like even if people know it's an inside job now, self-inflicted wound has now entered the vernacular to a great extent. 0.98

01:09:32.000 People still just go along with the big media event, and the children, and we'll get those enemies, and let's show some American flags! 0.97

01:09:40.000 When the terrorists are within, the enemy within is the plague.

01:09:44.000 The traitor is the plague.

01:09:47.000 And anger is a gift, and focused indignation to take action against these people. 0.93

01:09:52.000 And it begins with not being cowards.

01:09:55.000 We're going to play about 8-9 minutes of the hour-long Jane Graham interview that's at PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:10:01.000 We've also now posted it on the YouTube channel.

01:10:04.000 From the nightly news last night.

01:10:05.000 Get it out to everyone.

01:10:06.000 In fact, I forget the headline on that.

01:10:08.000 I don't even think we posted that on InfoWars.com.

01:10:12.000 Our webmasters are so great, but there's so much news that it's like we always post everybody else's stuff.

01:10:18.000 Like, look, this guy dropped a shoe on the side of the road.

01:10:21.000 Let's make that the top story instead of all of our bombshells.

01:10:24.000 Again, I mean, we are the best there is.

01:10:26.000 Doesn't mean we're even...

01:10:28.000 Doesn't even mean we're that good, but we're still the best there is right now.

01:10:31.000 If you go to InfoWars.com, any of the articles, and just go to the little links at the top, you see the YouTube symbol, go to the Alex Jones Channel, and it's OKC Bombing Star Witness Reveals, and let me click on the actual video to give you the full header there.

01:10:52.000 We can actually zoom in on this.

01:10:54.000 Oklahoma City bombing star witness reveals staged government terror attack.

01:10:58.000 And it's an hour and one minute interview, and it goes through all of it, and it's powerful.

01:11:03.000 And she's also in A Noble Lie, Oklahoma City, 1995.

01:11:08.000 Jane Graham, Alex Jones, the inventor of the neutron bombs in it.

01:11:11.000 General Benton K. Parton, former head of Air Force Weapons Development, multi-time engineer.

01:11:17.000 I mean, it just goes on and on. 0.99

01:11:18.000 Police officers, like Don Browning, the FBI comms, will kill you and your wife. 0.81

01:11:23.000 He was the head of the K-9 unit there minutes after.

01:11:25.000 If you talk about what you saw, Terence Yeagey, they talked to his family.

01:11:30.000 He was murdered, cop of the year.

01:11:31.000 I mean, folks, this is sensationally evil, what the globalists did.

01:11:36.000 The truth is so much crazier.

01:11:38.000 And it's the very crew running things now.

01:11:41.000 At the Justice Department that were involved in the cover up of the black op teams in FBI, CIA, defense intelligence.

01:11:49.000 We know is connected at certain levels.

01:11:51.000 I mentioned ATF, FBI, a noble lie available at InfoWars.com.

01:11:56.000 People have died.

01:11:58.000 Police officers have been brutally tortured to death for the information in this film.

01:12:04.000 You understand that?

01:12:06.000 And Jane Graham on the show last night talked about all the different threats.

01:12:09.000 Other police officers she's talked to.

01:12:11.000 And where they'd go to the police chief and others and they'd say, yeah, you better shut up or you're dead.

01:12:17.000 I got some golf to play, you know?

01:12:19.000 But still, the FBI and others were real sad about the blown up children.

01:12:24.000 Meanwhile, meanwhile, Meanwhile, I mean, that's the even sicker part, is I had to hear on the news what heroes the feds were, how they were going to keep us safe.

01:12:35.000 They're not the feds, they're the criminals.

01:12:38.000 But you don't think criminals don't want the federal government that can tax tens of trillions a year and steal it and give it to themselves?

01:12:44.000 That's all it is!

01:12:45.000 Crooks took over! 1.00

01:12:51.000 A noble lie, Oklahoma City, and why do I have it here next to, behind the green mask at 10 and 21?

01:12:57.000 Also available at Infowars.com.

01:12:59.000 Because to carry out this total tyranny and the shutdown of society, literally making us all prisoners, and turning America into a giant prison, it's worldwide, Agenda 21, by the way.

01:13:08.000 But I'm just talking about the U.S.

01:13:09.000 right now.

01:13:10.000 They need to stage the terror attack to demonize those that were against the U.N.

01:13:15.000 takeover.

01:13:15.000 That's what Oklahoma was doing, was leading a states' rights movement against Agenda 21.

01:13:20.000 They had resolutions against it in their statehouse.

01:13:24.000 So they got picked for the daycare center and a little bomb shoved in it.

01:13:29.000 And they had the FBI director's deputy there, an hour after, blocking the fire department from going in and making sure those unexploded goodies got taken out.

01:13:40.000 Cops had talked about it.

01:13:43.000 Get exes for eyes. 1.00

01:13:45.000 You've got the FBI head of counterterrorism there, lying, saying he wasn't.

01:13:49.000 These are nice people.

01:13:52.000 These are very nice people.

01:13:54.000 But you're supposed to be sappy.

01:13:55.000 Wrap yourself in American flag and say, I'm not going to believe it. 0.96

01:13:59.000 And then salute the foreign terrorists that have hijacked our government and say patriotism is having the troops die of DU. 1.00

01:14:05.000 Patriotism is 10,000 percentage pediatric cancer rate increases.

01:14:09.000 Patriotism is the honeybees dying.

01:14:11.000 Patriotism is open borders.

01:14:13.000 Patriotism is the Justice Department shipping guns into Mexico.

01:14:16.000 Patriotism is the government taking foster children and giving them pesticides till they die.

01:14:20.000 New York Daily News, no one gets in trouble.

01:14:22.000 Patriotism is having the TSA grope your wife while she cries, and if you speak out, the police come and bludgeon you.

01:14:29.000 That's freedom!

01:14:30.000 Freedom is paying the private Federal Reserve to the IRS!

01:14:33.000 Freedom is imploding markets and our factories shutting down and being shipped overseas!

01:14:37.000 Freedom is lead paint!

01:14:39.000 Okay.

01:14:41.000 I take you now to our guest, James Lane, the director, and Holland Vanden Heuwenhoff, writer-producer.

01:14:49.000 Here to discuss it.

01:14:50.000 You hear me ranting here, gentlemen, because it's not fun having to get on air and talk about these murderers, but it's got to be done.

01:14:55.000 It's not fun putting myself in harm's way, but I'm in greater harm's way by not confronting them head on.

01:15:01.000 Gentlemen, we're going to break in about five, six minutes.

01:15:04.000 You've got the floor for now.

01:15:05.000 Tell us the key points of why Oklahoma City's important and what the smoking guns are.

01:15:11.000 Thank you for having us on, Alex.

01:15:13.000 I think for us, or for me personally, the biggest smoking gun was the additional ordinance that were inside the building.

01:15:19.000 The official story states that the truck bomb was the sole source of destruction at the AP Murrah building the morning of April 19th, 1995.

01:15:27.000 We've got Jane Graham, you were speaking about her earlier, her, VZ Lawton, and other people that were actually in the building that survived said that the building was coming down.

01:15:35.000 Some of them thought it was an earthquake.

01:15:35.000 It was shaking.

01:15:37.000 So it was coming down 8 to 10 seconds before the glass blew in.

01:15:42.000 The FEMA report says that the blast wave from that truck was traveling at 1,700 feet per second.

01:15:47.000 That right there just proves that that was the sole explosive.

01:15:50.000 And since they won't release the videotapes that would show exactly what happened in front of the Murrah building, we have to go on the science of the matter.

01:15:57.000 Now, despite the 24 eyewitness accounts that place McVeigh with another person in that riot truck in front of the Murrah building, one can always make the argument, which they have, that somehow all these two dozen witnesses were mistaken.

01:16:07.000 But one cannot deny the science and the demonstrable examples that have been used to demonstrate the science.

01:16:12.000 The Air Force actually conducted a simulation of the Oklahoma City bombing at Eglin Air Force Base.

01:16:18.000 They set up a test structure, a three-story, very simple slab structure with no support columns.

01:16:24.000 And they actually constructed an ANFO bomb according to how the FBI and Tim McVeigh said it had been constructed.

01:16:30.000 A dozen barrels, 55-gallon barrels, packed with ANFO.

01:16:34.000 What they found was that each barrel acted as a separate bomb and that most of the explosive force was cancelled and whatever remained went straight up.

01:16:42.000 It did nothing to their test structure.

01:16:44.000 So they actually constructed a stronger, more powerful, single 4,000 pound bomb and exploded that outside their structure to see the results.

01:16:53.000 What they found was that their test structure, much less robust than the Murrah Building, which had been designed with bomb resistance in mind, Suffered much less damage from a more powerful bomb than what was supposedly used in Oklahoma City.

01:17:09.000 So then they tested the hypothesis of explosives inside the building.

01:17:14.000 So they actually put bombs inside their test structure, blew it up, and recorded the results.

01:17:19.000 The final conclusion of the Wright Armament Laboratory out of Elgin Air Force Base is that there were bombs inside the building.

01:17:26.000 So you have one branch of government saying that there were bombs inside the building, yet the spokesman for the government says that the ANFO in the truck bomb was the sole cause of destruction.

01:17:35.000 They can't even get their story straight.

01:17:36.000 We know that ANFO was not even in the truck because the hallmark of an ANFO bomb, ammonium nitrate and fuel oil, is a nitric gas cloud.

01:17:45.000 Terrence Jakey was on the scene within minutes pulling Tom Hall out of the building and saving seven other people that day.

01:17:49.000 He had no problem with respiration, neither did any of the survivors.

01:17:54.000 Every time that an ANFO bomb has been exploded, the first responders are normally hospitalized from the inhalation of nitric gas.

01:18:00.000 That was not there, that wasn't present at the Murrah building that day.

01:18:04.000 That calls into question what was actually in the truck.

01:18:06.000 And you got the ATF there seconds after demanding people patch them up that they were on the ninth floor.

01:18:11.000 You've got the ATF detonating months before their own Ryder truck testing it out.

01:18:17.000 You've got McVeigh.

01:18:18.000 You've got the feds running Elohim City.

01:18:20.000 I mean the list just goes on and on.

01:18:23.000 Well, the Oklahoma City story, the official story, is so easy to disprove.

01:18:28.000 It's one of the most, in fact, I say, my position is that they would be very hard pressed to pull something off as sloppy as Oklahoma City these days because of the dissemination of information made possible by the information revolution.

01:18:39.000 In 1995, the internet was still as an infancy, so we didn't see the rapid spread of information that you see these days.

01:18:46.000 If they tried to pull something like Oklahoma City off these days, it would just blow up right in their face.

01:18:50.000 That's another good point.

01:18:51.000 They have trouble doing another 9-11 or another Oklahoma.

01:18:54.000 Take the 7-7, wheeling the crazy drug guy, clearly drug witnesses said, Muttalib onto the plane. 0.72

01:19:02.000 And then we, my listeners were there, happened to be lawyers and smart, said the government got him on the plane.

01:19:08.000 And then it turned out the government did get him on the plane.

01:19:10.000 I mean, the system doesn't like the fact that they know our people are watching everywhere now.

01:19:15.000 Exactly, Alex, and that's why it is important to understand these false flag attacks, the details on them, because whenever you can share this information with your friends and family, you're literally saving lives.

01:19:25.000 You're taking away the false flag terror tool from the toolbox of these people that use this to further their own geopolitical ends.

01:19:33.000 Tell us what's coming up when we come back.

01:19:36.000 Well, we were at a street action today at the Oakland City Bombing Memorial, passing out 500 copies of the movie.

01:19:41.000 We can tell you about that after the break.

01:19:43.000 And then coming up, Jane Graham excerpts of her powerful bombshell interview with James Lane and myself last night.

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01:23:57.000 All right, we went to break, and the writer and producer of A Noble Lie, Holland Vanden Neuenhoff, was telling us about a street action they had at the site of the was telling us about a street action they had at the site of the Globalist Stage Reichstag At the site of the false flag, self-inflicted staged wound to demonize the American people and bring in the police state.

01:24:26.000 We're now witnessing with highway checkpoints and TSA, secret police now on the streets of Houston and other cities.

01:24:34.000 Tell us about the street action.

01:24:36.000 Yes, we've long promised ourselves that one day we would pass out copies of the movie at the memorial, on the anniversary, because every year at the anniversary, at the memorial, they celebrate the lie, and they try to remember the lies of those 168 dead people with a lie, not with truth and justice in their hearts.

01:24:51.000 The politicians get up there and they make their speeches, and they celebrate that.

01:24:55.000 It's about the institutionalization of the lie.

01:24:56.000 I mean, they passed legislation saying that the officials... They feed, vampirically, each year, off the children that their bosses murdered.

01:25:05.000 Exactly.

01:25:06.000 So we went out there today.

01:25:07.000 We are Change, Oklahoma.

01:25:09.000 And we set up outside both gates of time with teams on either side of the street.

01:25:14.000 And we had donated 500 free copies of the movie to be passed out today.

01:25:18.000 And every single person who went in there and went out got a copy of A Noble Lie, a total antidote to the line of propaganda that they were being fed inside the memorial.

01:25:31.000 One thing that was really strange this year that we haven't, we've never seen before, I mean, we're out there most, most years, uh, was the, the Homeland Security presence.

01:25:38.000 It wasn't there last year.

01:25:39.000 There was a Homeland Security Mobile Command Center there.

01:25:42.000 Massive.

01:25:42.000 They had lined up the SWAT team in front of one of the gates of time as the ceremony let out, which I think is an abomination.

01:25:49.000 Well, it's, I mean, criminals always return to the scene of the crime.

01:25:52.000 I mean, this is, this is a part of sucking every bit of the murdered children they can.

01:25:57.000 And Dog and Pony Show, because remember, Alex, a third of this audience are cops. 0.86

01:26:03.000 They're all carrying guns.

01:26:04.000 No one is going to do anything there.

01:26:06.000 I mean, they're on duty, off duty, but you don't need a Homeland Security SWAT team.

01:26:09.000 No, it's the feds are going to be on your streets keeping you safe when they blow your buildings up.

01:26:14.000 They even had a mobile command center, a huge thing.

01:26:16.000 It probably cost $250,000.

01:26:18.000 But the thing is, the museum memorial, they have a command center upstairs.

01:26:21.000 They don't need a mobile command center on site.

01:26:23.000 Well, of course they don't need it!

01:26:25.000 It's all to make us think there's a real threat!

01:26:27.000 They're the terrorists!

01:26:27.000 And there is one!

01:26:29.000 But, uh, we did manage to actually get a few copies to some of those folks and, uh, people that actually work at the, uh, memorial.

01:26:35.000 They were asking for it.

01:26:36.000 Some of the people working there, uh, working in the memorial were asking about the movie and wanted copies.

01:26:40.000 Head of security, actually.

01:26:41.000 Maybe we should say that on air, but, yeah, he got a copy.

01:26:41.000 Yeah.

01:26:44.000 Asked for one.

01:26:45.000 Well, that's good, because they need to choose whose side they're on.

01:26:48.000 Exactly.

01:26:48.000 And so, I mean, we're not just, you know, providing this information to, you know, the general public that was going in there, victims, family members, survivors, etc.

01:26:55.000 I mean, these are the people that are actually part of the institutionalization of the lie.

01:26:58.000 You know, I was at the Ground Zero last September 11th for the memorial there, and I had my We Are Change Oklahoma shirt on.

01:27:05.000 I get a gentleman comes up, he's like, oh, Oklahoma.

01:27:07.000 He goes, I'm from the museum there in Oklahoma City.

01:27:10.000 Oh, really?

01:27:10.000 What are you doing here?

01:27:11.000 I'm helping set up the museum in New York City.

01:27:14.000 So they're taking everything that they've learned here, moving it to New York, and you see the same thing where they're passing legislation saying the official story of 9-11 will be taught in the schools.

01:27:21.000 I mean, if it's not, if people, you know, like you and us and everybody out there listening doesn't get out there and get this information out, you know, we're going to lose because we're up against a machine, you know.

01:27:31.000 But what they can't, they cannot defeat us if we are actually out there having those one-on-one conversations.

01:27:35.000 That's right, that's right.

01:27:38.000 Know that there are millions of other patriots In low-intensity info war conflict at point-blank range, talking and educating and giving business cards and DVDs and putting it on AXS TV, we can swarm the enemy and we will do it.

01:27:52.000 Here's an example.

01:27:53.000 Aaron and I noticed about three years ago a meme in TV that Bill Gates is a superhero trying to give kids shots.

01:28:01.000 And then we noticed suddenly all over the news they were calling him a superhero.

01:28:05.000 And we discovered that he's paying ABC, hundreds of newspapers, CNN, you name it.

01:28:12.000 They're paying to have him as a superhero.

01:28:15.000 Now they're going to have a comic book where he's a superhero to the kids.

01:28:19.000 And anyone that doesn't take the vaccines is the bad guy.

01:28:22.000 So, I mean, imagine the propaganda.

01:28:23.000 And here's Forbes, why Bill Gates is a hero, because this is a terror attack, these shots, and Donald Trump is a zero. 1.00

01:28:30.000 Donald Trump, and look, they talk to you like you're an idiot. 1.00

01:28:33.000 Look, why Bill Gates is a hero and Donald Trump is a zero. 1.00

01:28:37.000 Forbes, Matthew Herper.

01:28:39.000 And my point here is, we're going to go to break and come back and talk about this and more in the next long segment.

01:28:44.000 Is that they're panicking.

01:28:46.000 They're panicking that people have got the Bill and Melinda Gates documents, the Rockefeller documents, where they talk about sterilizing through the vaccines.

01:28:53.000 They're panicking that they're learning Bill and Melinda Gates are giving people real polio in the shots as a cover story.

01:28:59.000 They're panicking and it's coming out that even Donald Trump is saying the shots are hurting people and we need to stop it.

01:29:08.000 They are panicking because they've almost got us where they want us, where 1 in 50 something kids have instead of 1 in 25,000 and they want to get those kids. 0.97

01:29:18.000 We're at the tipping point of saving those kids and they're very upset as the vampire pigs they are. 0.63

01:29:23.000 So we're going to come right back on the other side. 0.99

01:29:25.000 These ghoul demons know we've got them. 0.89

01:29:28.000 And I mean, we're just like, it's like arm wrestling. 0.96

01:29:30.000 We've got them, the momentum is going in our direction, and we've just got to give, take that gift of anger, and slam their fist through the floor.

01:29:38.000 There's not a question if we're going to try to defeat the New World Order. 0.62

01:29:41.000 We're coming, nothing's going to stop it, and that's the way it is!

01:29:44.000 We'll be right back, stay with us.

01:29:50.000 We're on the march.

01:29:51.000 The Empire's on the run.

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01:33:12.000 Even your emotions have an echo in so much space.

01:33:16.000 All right, we've got about eight, nine minutes of an hour-plus interview I did with Jane Graham last night.

01:33:22.000 Coming up here, and I want to keep our guests a little bit in the next hour, and open the phones back up.

01:33:28.000 I know we've got loaded phones.

01:33:29.000 I'd like to go to those that are holding, but they won't be on Oklahoma City, and then get to people that are calling about Oklahoma City.

01:33:35.000 But going back to you guys, James, you kick it back off with other points you think are important to make.

01:33:42.000 17 years later, after Bill Clinton told USA Today he owed his re-election to the OKC bombing.

01:33:50.000 Well, an interesting thing has happened here in Oklahoma.

01:33:53.000 Last year, legislation was passed that says if your family member's death was declared a suicide, you can now dispute that.

01:34:00.000 And so, we're hoping to leverage some of this momentum to get a new investigation into the death of Officer Terrence Yakey.

01:34:07.000 I know you spoke about this case very many times on your show, Alex, and thank you for that.

01:34:12.000 Teriyaki was a police officer that was on the scene within minutes that day, saved eight people's lives.

01:34:18.000 You know, his death was declared a suicide.

01:34:22.000 He had multiple lacerations on his arms, on his neck.

01:34:25.000 There was so much blood in the car that they said that you could dip it out with a ladle And we're supposed to believe that he dragged himself, because there was rope marks or whatever, there was grass in his wounds, uh, dragged himself a mile away and shot himself at a downward angle through the top of his head coming out of his jaw with a small caliber weapon at a far enough distance that it didn't leave any powder, uh, burns.

01:34:45.000 Uh, the Sheriff's Department is there.

01:34:47.000 They look for an hour to try to find the weapon.

01:34:49.000 They can't find it because it was federal property.

01:34:51.000 By the way, most pistols will leave powder burns at even three feet.

01:34:54.000 So somebody was far away, probably six, seven feet away, and shot him in the head.

01:34:58.000 Yeah.

01:34:59.000 And he was on his knees.

01:35:00.000 And now, you know, he made a phone call before this happened to a friend of his.

01:35:04.000 He said he was going to mini-storage, and as soon as he shakes these feds that were following him, they would meet up and have a meal.

01:35:10.000 He had been followed by the FBI before.

01:35:12.000 He knew exactly who was following him.

01:35:13.000 And there were two boxes of documents in the back of his car when the Sheriff's Department arrived.

01:35:18.000 By the time it hits the impound lot, it doesn't make it into inventory.

01:35:22.000 There was also an incident with Um, during the rescue efforts, uh, Teriyaki was there, um, a doctor showed up, uh, Dr. Plumlee.

01:35:29.000 He actually, his office was down the road.

01:35:31.000 As soon as he saw the mushroom cloud, he loaded up the station wagon full of medical supplies and he sped down to the Murrah building, started rescuing people, started administering first aid and triage.

01:35:40.000 He was approached by an ATF agent.

01:35:42.000 Um, who asked Dr. Plum, Plumlee to put a bandage on his head and his hand, although there was no injury.

01:35:50.000 He was asking the doctor to put a prop on him.

01:35:53.000 Dr. Plumlee lost it.

01:35:54.000 He was, he was dealing with people who were dying and he's got this ATF agent in front of him asking him to give him a costume.

01:36:01.000 And he chewed out the ATF agents.

01:36:03.000 Dr. Plumlee and I started collaborating with Terrence Yickey in their quest to find out exactly what had happened in Oklahoma City.

01:36:09.000 They were both there.

01:36:10.000 They both had questions.

01:36:11.000 Terrence Yickey was Officer of the Year.

01:36:13.000 He was getting ready to receive the Medal of Valor when he died.

01:36:16.000 And after Terrence Yickey died, Um, the FBI raided, uh, Dr. Plumlee actually later died in a plane crash.

01:36:24.000 Oh! 0.60

01:36:25.000 Under somewhat mysterious circumstances in Texas.

01:36:28.000 Um, after Terrence Yakey was murdered, which we know he was murdered, um, the FBI raided his bank without a search warrant and they took out the contents of the safety deposit box that he shared with Dr. Plumlee.

01:36:42.000 Um, and they did this without a warrant.

01:36:43.000 I guess the bank just caved and they didn't want to deal with the FBI.

01:36:45.000 They don't want to stand up to him.

01:36:48.000 I've been told by people who were involved in the investigation that Terence Tiki had acquired a videotape from evidence and that was what was in the safety deposit box and the FBI took it.

01:36:59.000 It's gone.

01:37:01.000 It's amazing.

01:37:02.000 Can you imagine them torturing that police officer to death?

01:37:05.000 These are really nice people.

01:37:06.000 He fought to death.

01:37:07.000 There was, in that car where they found his blood, there was another blood type.

01:37:11.000 So Terence Tiki fought.

01:37:13.000 And, you know, we're really grateful even, you know, to his family, everybody that was involved with the documentary to try to get the story out about Terry because, you know, I think we need... Yeah, when he even left the house that day, he said they were after him and stuff.

01:37:23.000 I mean, it's, it's, I mean, imagine you leave your house, they're after me, and then you're dead, it's all suicide.

01:37:28.000 He had told his family, he knew that he was under threat.

01:37:31.000 He had told his family that if they ever find him dead of a suicide, that he's gonna do it like this.

01:37:39.000 He was a cop.

01:37:39.000 He knew how to do it.

01:37:40.000 He'd responded to many suicides. 0.98

01:37:41.000 He knows the right way to kill yourself.

01:37:43.000 He told them, I'm going to do it like this.

01:37:45.000 If it's not like that, I didn't do it.

01:37:48.000 It wasn't him.

01:37:48.000 He didn't do it.

01:37:50.000 Now, in addition to that, there's a lot of new information that's coming out through Jesse Trinidou.

01:37:57.000 His efforts have just been amazing.

01:37:59.000 We've spoken before about the death of his brother that really spurred his need to get to the truth of that, which led him to the Oklahoma City bombing.

01:38:08.000 And I think PatCon is one of the more interesting aspects of what he has uncovered.

01:38:14.000 At the time of the Oklahoma City bombing, the FBI had sting operations going on where they had infiltrated supposed Patriot groups, and this was called Patriot Conspiracy, or PatCon.

01:38:26.000 So they had PatCon Group 1, PatCon Group 2, all over the country.

01:38:30.000 And we're not able to find any documents about it being in Elohim City, but, you know, that was a white separatist compound where we know that Timothy McVeigh was operating.

01:38:37.000 He was traveling around creating the legend so they could then set up a patriot group with the bombing.

01:38:42.000 He was going around creating that history.

01:38:45.000 I've talked to people who Tim McVeigh approached before the bombing and they were like, who is this Fed?

01:38:49.000 Because he's just talking crazy talk.

01:38:51.000 Talking about rising up against the government and bombing things.

01:38:54.000 People who were smart and not federal informants were staying far away from him.

01:38:57.000 But he had the company of a lot of other federal informants.

01:39:00.000 PACON is breaking now.

01:39:02.000 JM Berger of Intel Wire put out an article that they believe is in foreign policy.

01:39:07.000 And it's on PACON.

01:39:09.000 Patriot Conspiracy. 0.99

01:39:10.000 And as one FBI agent said, PACON will get you killed.

01:39:13.000 They do not want this exposed because they were not only infiltrating all of these so-called militia groups, they were inciting them to crime.

01:39:20.000 They were being fed weapons from military bases.

01:39:24.000 Those guys weren't stealing weapons from the military.

01:39:26.000 They were being fed weapons because one of the gun stores that we found out was involved with Fast and Furious just recently, Was involved in PACON back in the mid-90s.

01:39:33.000 It was an ATF operation.

01:39:35.000 They were in the same operation.

01:39:37.000 They're beating guns to these militias to manufacture a threat to start a fight so they could crack down on them.

01:39:44.000 Now, Newsweek was going to do an article several months ago that was going to cover all of the PatCon information.

01:39:50.000 The author of it called Jesse Trinidou, read it word for word, covered all the information.

01:39:56.000 When it hits the newsstands, every mention of PatCon is completely removed.

01:39:59.000 We talked to that Newsweek writer.

01:40:00.000 We sent him a copy of the movie.

01:40:01.000 He asked for it.

01:40:02.000 He liked it, but he told us he can't cover it.

01:40:04.000 There's no way.

01:40:06.000 Gentlemen, continue more with the PatCon.

01:40:06.000 Amazing.

01:40:10.000 Well, PatCon is breaking now.

01:40:12.000 That article came out yesterday on IntelR by J.M.

01:40:15.000 Berger.

01:40:15.000 He does a lot of good work.

01:40:16.000 And it talks about Andy Strasmire, who we mentioned before, who Jane Graham goes into at length on the PrisonPlanet.TV interview. 0.77

01:40:24.000 Strasmire was down in Texas and we talked about in the movie the fact that Strasmire had to leave Texas and come to Oklahoma because he'd been followed by the Texas Light Infantry because Strasmire was down there talking about blowing things up and shooting people and you know when people do that they're either morons or they're federal informants. 0.86

01:40:43.000 Either way you need to stay away from them.

01:40:44.000 So they became suspicious of him, and they started following him, and they followed him into the Fort Worth Federal Building.

01:40:49.000 He went there at night, after hours, through a side door, and used a key code to get into the door.

01:40:55.000 After that, Strasmeyer was told to leave Texas, and he did, wisely.

01:40:59.000 And he came to Elliott City and started scaring them, telling them that they're going to be the next Waco, and started inciting them to commit some type of crime, and most of them were reluctant.

01:41:08.000 In fact, The only reason that Terry Nichols, the only convicted accomplice to Tim McVeigh, the only reason I believe that Terry Nichols is in prison as the only accomplice, is that Terry Nichols was the only person working with McVeigh who was not a government informant.

01:41:24.000 Another piece of information that came out through Jesse Trinidou is that the CIA actually had a satellite pointed at Elohim City the day of the bombing.

01:41:33.000 Now back then it took, you know, weeks of coordination to move those satellites around.

01:41:37.000 Why was it pointed there that morning?

01:41:39.000 Elohim City is a community of like 100, maybe 200 in the 90s.

01:41:43.000 It's not very big.

01:41:44.000 There's no walls or anything.

01:41:45.000 It's just a collection of housing.

01:41:47.000 And, uh, why did they have a satellite from the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, an agency we had never heard of until this document came out?

01:41:54.000 The CIA ordered them to point that satellite at Elym City in eastern Oklahoma, where McVeigh had been hanging out, but yet they will not release any of that footage, of course.

01:42:04.000 They cited national security reasons.

01:42:05.000 Uh-huh, well, it is national security for Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, that have hijacked the country to stage stuff and blame it on real Americans.

01:42:14.000 It's very simple.

01:42:15.000 They commit crimes, to then blame us.

01:42:18.000 Here is a clip from last night's Hour Plus interview with Jane Graham.

01:42:21.000 She says it's the last interview she's doing, talking about threats to witnesses.

01:42:25.000 Again, she worked in the Alfred P. Murrow building, and she witnessed so much.

01:42:31.000 That's in the full interview.

01:42:32.000 But here is the threats to witnesses.

01:42:34.000 This is even more proof Of the criminal elements at the top of the Justice Department, FBI, ATF, running this operation with foreign nationals, Operation Demonize American Patriots. 0.83

01:42:47.000 That's basically what it is, and here is a clip.

01:42:53.000 A friend of mine and also another person, Debbie Nakanishi, worked for the U.S. Post Office.

01:43:02.000 She was intimidated.

01:43:04.000 She saw what went on outside with the bomb squad and everything.

01:43:11.000 And she was told by her employer that if she spoke about it or talked about what she saw, she would be fired.

01:43:19.000 I told her immediately to go to the union. 0.55

01:43:22.000 She did.

01:43:22.000 And then they came in and then the boss came back and then an attorney came back from the telephone company and said, well, you know, post office, you don't have to, you know, you're not going to lose your job.

01:43:32.000 I mean, she was threatened.

01:43:33.000 She was one of many witnesses that saw the bomb squad across the street at the courthouse prior to the bombing that morning.

01:43:42.000 And when she tries to speak out about it, her job is threatened and she's told to be silent.

01:43:47.000 Yes, yes.

01:43:49.000 And you know, when I went, Debbie Nakanishi and I went up to Washington several times, we tried to get the Politicians in Washington, the Senators and Congressmen, to talk to us about the bombing.

01:44:08.000 Not one person there would talk to either one of us.

01:44:12.000 The only person who talked to us was the representative from Ohio.

01:44:22.000 And he subpoenaed- Trafficking.

01:44:23.000 Trafficking.

01:44:24.000 He subpoenaed the records from GSA.

01:44:28.000 And when we went down there, we met, he was in the office and his assistant, and talked to him about, you know, what was going on.

01:44:37.000 And the assistant had told him, very interesting, that FBI had called and told him they wanted, he could not open one of those boxes until they had sent people down there to redact, to redact all the information.

01:44:52.000 And he said, nope.

01:44:53.000 He says, that's beyond your authority.

01:44:55.000 I will allow One person to come down and do what they can do, and that's it.

01:45:03.000 And he said that one end of man, I believe it was a gentleman, came down.

01:45:08.000 He was doing that.

01:45:09.000 And he was told, we will get you for this.

01:45:13.000 And they did.

01:45:14.000 I mean, they took him down with a scandal.

01:45:17.000 Yeah, they really did.

01:45:18.000 And it wasn't like he was the only person who's created a scandal.

01:45:22.000 My God, look at the felons that are in Congress right now.

01:45:26.000 Don't tell me about scandals, you know.

01:45:28.000 Look at what's going on right now in our government.

01:45:30.000 That's scandal.

01:45:31.000 So, I mean, he wasn't the only individual.

01:45:33.000 And I'm not saying it's a Democrat or Republican.

01:45:36.000 Both have the problem.

01:45:38.000 But it is a real concern.

01:45:41.000 Charles Key, you know, he's had his share of problems.

01:45:46.000 Terrence Shakey, I met Terrence, I knew him, I knew his ex-wife.

01:45:51.000 When he was having the problems, when he had reviewed His report and turned in his first report at the police department to his supervisor.

01:46:02.000 He was told to take it right back, cut it down.

01:46:05.000 He didn't want all that information in there.

01:46:07.000 Terrence refused.

01:46:08.000 He rewrote it, but he refused to do what he said.

01:46:11.000 He was taking a copy of that out.

01:46:12.000 He talked to his wife and told her he was concerned for his life.

01:46:18.000 He was concerned for his family, killing a lot of his efforts to protect his family.

01:46:22.000 He had two children he had.

01:46:24.000 And they were supposed to leave, I believe, the night that he was murdered.

01:46:28.000 They were supposed to come back and take them down to Texas.

01:46:33.000 They were gonna, I believe, get remarried.

01:46:35.000 Yes, he had reconciled with his wife, he had gotten a promotion, he was getting the key to the city, he had everything to live for and his death was declared a suicide.

01:46:45.000 Now the parameters around that is that he had supposedly cut his wrist in his car, cut his neck, And then, I guess, tied a rope around his neck, handcuffed Marks, and dragged himself a mile away out into a field, and then shot himself with a small caliber weapon at a downward angle through the top of his head that came out of his jaw, far enough away that it didn't leave powder residue on his head.

01:47:09.000 And then the Sheriff's Department, when they do arrive, they do a thorough search of the area.

01:47:14.000 They cannot find the weapon because it was federal property.

01:47:17.000 When the FBI lands, they, oh, here's the weapon.

01:47:20.000 They immediately go and find it.

01:47:22.000 The sheriff's department had also reported that there were two boxes of documents in the back of his car, and then whenever it gets to the impound lot, it's not actually part of the inventory.

01:47:32.000 Well, also, he had left his video camera at his home.

01:47:37.000 And right after that, the police department comes to her home.

01:47:43.000 Uh, Terry's wife's home, and bursts in, no knock, no nothing, just barges in, goes directly, where is the camera, where is everything?

01:47:52.000 She said, where's your warrant?

01:47:54.000 They went in, they searched everything, took everything that they wanted, and walked out with it.

01:47:58.000 And that had a lot of evidence, I'm sure, on it.

01:48:02.000 And he died with nothing.

01:48:04.000 They left him nothing.

01:48:05.000 They gave him nothing.

01:48:06.000 You know, and they call this, you know, that he should have been able to have a pension and do for that.

01:48:13.000 They didn't even have the courtesy to call and do those things.

01:48:17.000 A police officer that dies in Oklahoma City gets an autopsy.

01:48:21.000 Terence Hickey did not get one.

01:48:22.000 They didn't ask his family if he had ever had suicidal comments or thoughts.

01:48:26.000 And when they question the suicide, they say, oh, you watch too much television.

01:48:31.000 You're acting crazy.

01:48:32.000 You need to go back home and stop worrying about it.

01:48:34.000 And this is not a way to treat a hero that saved eight people's lives that day.

01:48:38.000 Well, Terry's wife said that she had a call from one of the policemen that he worked with, that he had talked to Terry the day before and he said the feds were after him.

01:48:53.000 They were following him.

01:48:55.000 And he said, I've been told that I cannot Show you that I know he was in fact murdered by them because they've already told us if any of us talk, we're dead.

01:49:06.000 Our families are dead.

01:49:07.000 That was not an uncommon thing to be intimidated by everybody down the line.

01:49:13.000 Did you know Don Browning?

01:49:14.000 Yes, I knew him well.

01:49:16.000 And Don knew.

01:49:17.000 Don knew things that were going on, you know.

01:49:19.000 And he talked about them.

01:49:22.000 He would talk with BC.

01:49:24.000 He would meet with people.

01:49:25.000 He would talk to things, you know, talk to people about what was happening.

01:49:30.000 But they didn't want to hear it, you know. 0.84

01:49:34.000 It's just like, thank God that when Carol Howe went before the court and her supervisor, they had made her out to be a liar and she was crazy.

01:49:48.000 And then when her supervisor got on the stand and she was under oath, what she said was absolutely the truth.

01:49:56.000 Surely more people out there have morals to stand up for what everybody in World War I and World War II stood for.

01:50:04.000 The military today, they go, you know, the military today go over there to areas where this is a political war.

01:50:12.000 This isn't war against the United States.

01:50:15.000 It's a political war.

01:50:17.000 And they sacrifice their lives, their family life, their homes, their Injuries that they sustain, they give their lives for this so that people can have freedom, and yet when they kill someone over there, they're made to come back and account for their action.

01:50:36.000 It doesn't matter if you've got a bad psychological day over there, you're on your second or third tour, you can't have, you know, a breakdown and kill people.

01:50:47.000 That's against the law.

01:50:48.000 You're coming back and going to be court-martialed or you're going to have a...

01:50:52.000 All right, folks.

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01:54:14.000 I don't ever play Holland Vandernuwenhoff is our guest.

01:54:18.000 He's the writer and one of the producers of the amazing documentary, A Noble Lie, exposing the false flag terror attack of Oklahoma City 17 years ago.

01:54:28.000 Today, they picked the children well, just to wave them as a bloody shirt, to destroy liberty in America, and they've done a really good job.

01:54:36.000 Now they're getting ready to shut down free speech and start the secret arrest.

01:54:40.000 Uh, and of course, James Lane, the director, joined us.

01:54:42.000 The video's available at InfoWars.com.

01:54:45.000 Get it, air it on AXS TV, show it to your friends and family.

01:54:48.000 Uh, today, we should give it to every police officer you know as well, because it gets into all the cop killing in there.

01:54:55.000 How much the...

01:54:57.000 Mafia, known as the federal government, enjoys that.

01:55:00.000 Without truth, there is no justice, it says on the back.

01:55:03.000 Infowars.com.

01:55:04.000 I want to do another 20 minutes with you guys in the next hour and then take phone calls.

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01:55:12.000 Then we'll go to calls on other subjects after you leave us.

01:55:16.000 But other tidbits as we close out this hour that you think people should be made aware of.

01:55:22.000 Well, yes, like I said, the Oklahoma City story is still developing.

01:55:25.000 There's a book coming out on the 24th of this month by Roger Charles, former Marine Corps colonel in Vietnam.

01:55:32.000 And actually it's kind of funny we call ourselves the Marine Mafia.

01:55:34.000 There's so many Marines involved with the truth-seeking efforts.

01:55:37.000 Don Browning, Craig Roberts, Jesse Trinity, myself, Matthews, anyways.

01:55:43.000 Roger Charles, he's a former ABC producer.

01:55:45.000 He actually produced the 2020 segment on prior knowledge that broadcast just a year and a half after the bombing.

01:55:52.000 It proved so popular That he shot an entire hour show on prior knowledge and other evidence about Oklahoma City for 2020.

01:56:01.000 Shot, produced, he went home to go watch it on TV, he turned it on, and they played a rerun.

01:56:06.000 He called his bosses at ABC, he's like, what's going on?

01:56:08.000 And they said, well, we got a series of phone calls from the Justice Department and they talked us into dropping the show.

01:56:14.000 And by the way, that happened with Jesse Ventura's Concentration Camp show.

01:56:18.000 Aired once, supposed to air like 50 times, it's on cable.

01:56:22.000 They pulled it.

01:56:23.000 And I mean, I can't talk about it because I'm sworn to, you know, secrecy or whatever.

01:56:27.000 I mean, it was serious threats.

01:56:28.000 I mean, that's who runs this government.

01:56:31.000 Roger Charles became so enraged that he quit ABC and went to work collaborating with the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee, chaired by State Representative Charles Key, trying to get to the real truth of the bombing.

01:56:31.000 Yeah.

01:56:40.000 Well, he's come out with a book with journalist Andrew Gumbel.

01:56:43.000 It comes out on the 24th of this month.

01:56:45.000 It's called Oklahoma City.

01:56:46.000 What the investigation missed and why it still matters now Roger Charles has a lot of connections to military intelligence He's former military intelligence a lot of connections in the government.

01:56:55.000 He knows a lot of these federal agents who are now retired He's talking to CIA agents who are now retired now They're not so afraid to talk anymore because they're not so curious concerned with their careers their pensions.

01:57:05.000 They already got all that They're not on the clock So there's going to be some bombshells in that book, including from what I told, I can't reveal too much, but confirmation that Andy Strasmer was working on an international intelligence operation in the beginning to infiltrate neo-Nazis in this country.

01:57:21.000 That is being confirmed and it'll be detailed in the book coming out on the 24th.

01:57:25.000 And Strassmayer is the thread that really ties all of these different components together.

01:57:29.000 I mean, he was seen with McVeigh at the Lady Godiva strip club up in the Tulsa area.

01:57:34.000 We have Josiah Stone, an Elohim City resident, that says he saw McVeigh there at the time.

01:57:39.000 That Carol Howe was saying that Andrew Strassmayer was scouting locations in Oklahoma City to do a bombing.

01:57:46.000 We know that this character is the one that was in the The basement, Jane Graham, has identified him as the one with the wire and the gray putty, which is exactly the way you set up C4.

01:57:59.000 And then actually, when we were actually briefing Jane Graham for the show yesterday, we were going over things, and she mentioned the make of the vehicle, which was an older model station wagon with wood paneling.

01:58:09.000 And I was thunderstruck.

01:58:10.000 I was like, that's Andy's car!

01:58:12.000 That's the car that was towed, and the State Department called the tow driver and told him to release it.

01:58:16.000 So this thing's still unraveling, and we're still finding new information.

01:58:19.000 Unbelievable.

01:58:22.000 And the people involved are still walking around out there. 0.96

01:58:26.000 I doubt a court will ever carry out justice, but I just hope none of the people that killed those kids fall down and hit their heads.

01:58:35.000 We'll be right back.

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01:59:58.000 Big Brother.

02:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

02:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

02:00:10.000 You want answers?

02:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

02:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:25.000 When the government fears the people, there is liberty.

02:00:29.000 When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. 0.86

02:00:32.000 And I can make jokes about child killers falling down and hitting their heads.

02:00:35.000 I know God's going to bring these people to justice.

02:00:37.000 But by exposing these people, we're going to be able to stop their Minions that were trained by them who are now in control to continue to be able to stage these and I think that's the most important point we started the interview with and before we go to calls I just want to make that point again.

02:00:54.000 Exposing false flag and the fact that we have exposed them in the court of public opinion really is beginning to take that tool away from these guys.

02:01:03.000 Absolutely.

02:01:03.000 I mean, just the recent Supreme Court decision where they said they can strip search you for the most minor offense.

02:01:08.000 One of the justices in their decision actually mentioned McVeigh being pulled over by, you know, after the bombing.

02:01:14.000 So, I mean, they still invoke the name of McVeigh.

02:01:16.000 Anytime anybody has the audacity to stand up to tyranny, to expose government corruption, oh, it's one of those McVeigh types.

02:01:23.000 And this is why exposing the official story to be false about Oklahoma City, it takes that power away from them.

02:01:28.000 And it robs their loaded words of their value.

02:01:31.000 I mean, they wave the bloody shirt of Oakland City to the state and demonize anyone who dissents against the government, who questions the constitutionality of the federal government and their actions, especially with law enforcement.

02:01:41.000 And if we rob them of this and we make people aware of their false flag tool and how it works, it loses its power.

02:01:48.000 Because if we figure it out, it's not going to work anymore.

02:01:50.000 And I honestly think truly do that we are winning in the fact that we're discovering so fast and so hard.

02:01:56.000 I mean, if they tried to pull up Oakland City today, I know it would blow up in their face.

02:01:59.000 It was entirely too sloppy.

02:02:01.000 And they can usually rely upon the mainstream media to cover their loose ends because they're not going to press too hard.

02:02:07.000 But the mainstream media is not king anymore.

02:02:09.000 Not at all.

02:02:10.000 I mean, they're on the downhill slide.

02:02:12.000 And the alternative media is rising up and they are discovering things or spreading things out.

02:02:15.000 If they tried something like that, it would definitely blow up in their face.

02:02:18.000 And if they kill one of us, there's a hundred more that pop up in its place. 0.99

02:02:23.000 That's what they really hate.

02:02:24.000 Robert in Oklahoma, you're on the air.

02:02:26.000 Welcome.

02:02:27.000 Hey, good afternoon, Alex.

02:02:28.000 How are you doing?

02:02:29.000 Doing alright.

02:02:30.000 Hey, I'd like to make a personal note that I know Holland of Andy Neuenhauf.

02:02:36.000 Okay, great.

02:02:38.000 The reason why I know him for it is because I used to work for a security office that supplied security to patrol the building that his office is in.

02:02:48.000 And let me tell you something, we talked to about 10 minutes regarding what happened on Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995.

02:02:53.000 And let me tell you something, he is a treasure trove of information.

02:03:00.000 I just want to say, buy the film, research it, and then ask questions.

02:03:05.000 What do you think of the film, A Noble Terrorist Attack Launched by Loving Liberals?

02:03:10.000 I mean, A Noble Lie, the film.

02:03:14.000 I think it was a setup to see if it can be done on a larger scale, resulting in 9-11.

02:03:20.000 Yep.

02:03:23.000 And if you kill, I hate to say it, but if you kill children, you have the country backing you up. 1.00

02:03:30.000 Yep. 0.90

02:03:31.000 And that's the way it's not supposed to be.

02:03:33.000 It's real simple.

02:03:34.000 Blow up a city, next time they'll be God, unless we expose the false flag. 0.93

02:03:39.000 We expose the false flag, or they will blow stuff up and pose as a savior. 0.68

02:03:43.000 It's a very old story.

02:03:45.000 Exactly.

02:03:47.000 I'd just like to ask both those guys a question if you may.

02:03:50.000 Sure, go ahead.

02:03:51.000 Go ahead.

02:03:52.000 How would the federal government do this and why?

02:03:56.000 Is there some sort of personal agenda against us as citizens?

02:04:01.000 Or do they have a hidden agenda that, you know, they know something is coming up sometime in the near future that they're causing all this to happen?

02:04:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:04:12.000 Well, why did Hitler blow up his own Capitol building?

02:04:14.000 To take people's rights. 0.86

02:04:16.000 You guys want to start answering that?

02:04:17.000 I mean, why they'd want to stage an attack?

02:04:20.000 Certainly, I mean we saw all of the anti-terrorism legislation being opposed across the board in the United States.

02:04:28.000 There was an enormous resistance to globalization, NAFTA, GATT, all of these operations.

02:04:32.000 Congress was saying we're not going to suspend the Fourth Amendment, we're not going to have federal police.

02:04:36.000 And so the feds said we'll just blow up a federal building. 0.51

02:04:39.000 Yep, after that everybody just rolled over and said take our rights.

02:04:42.000 And it inaugurated us into the new age of terror.

02:04:45.000 There used to be a time in this country, Alex, where we didn't have to worry about terrorism.

02:04:48.000 The younger generations of you know what that's like.

02:04:50.000 Explain that on the other side.

02:04:50.000 Stay there.

02:04:51.000 Thank you, caller.

02:04:52.000 Then we're gonna go to John, Patriot, Kevin, Mark, and others.

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02:08:22.000 He is the writer and one of the producers of the amazing film, probably the only full-length professional documentary out there that truly tells the truth about the Oklahoma City bombing, that is the foundation, the root of the overthrow of our Republic and a beta test for 9-11.

02:08:44.000 All of it's aimed at you now, TSA, all over the country on the streets.

02:08:47.000 And they're like, we're here to fight crime.

02:08:49.000 We're here to hear what you have to say politically.

02:08:51.000 Watch what you say!

02:08:53.000 We're gonna ship some guns to Mexico and to Honduras and to Chicago.

02:08:58.000 We're gonna bring some drugs in. 1.00

02:08:59.000 We're gonna have the troops grow the opium. 0.88

02:09:01.000 Ha ha ha ha, we're the good guys.

02:09:04.000 You know, because of the internet and alternative media now, and of course James Lane, the director, joins us as well, Now they just are trying to hide stuff in plain view.

02:09:12.000 I mean, more and more it comes out, yeah, we bring the drugs in.

02:09:16.000 Yeah, we murdered a lot of our troops in tests just a few years ago.

02:09:19.000 Yeah, foreign banks are setting up a world government.

02:09:22.000 So there's this weird thing where they admit it to take the power of denial away, but then still separately say we're dangerous and bad for not liking it.

02:09:30.000 And we were just getting into the point that Well, you were making a point, Holland, right before we went to break.

02:09:35.000 Do you remember what that point was?

02:09:36.000 Yes.

02:09:37.000 Why, why, why?

02:09:38.000 Why would they do the Oklahoma City bombing?

02:09:40.000 We can look at the mundane reasons.

02:09:42.000 What we know for a fact is that Craig Roberts talks about this in the movie.

02:09:46.000 That when he was retained by the FBI to investigate the bombing, he was getting calls from federal agents in Arkansas telling him that when the Clintons went to D.C.

02:09:53.000 to assume the presidency, that all the files and all the documents related to Whitewater were moved to the Alfa Romeo Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

02:10:01.000 And we know that the federal government was very concerned about those documents.

02:10:05.000 We have Don Browning, another police officer, talking about the fact that he was told by an FBI agent on the scene that there were documents so important to the government inside the building that until they were recovered there would be no further rescue.

02:10:18.000 That's why FBI Director's head assistant was there, right after it, magically blocking the fire department.

02:10:26.000 This is key.

02:10:27.000 The globalists always do things that are win, win, win, win, win.

02:10:30.000 They pick the target, they have the files transferred there, because back in the old days, there were still some good people, I guess, in government, so they had to, you know, hide those from then.

02:10:39.000 Then they bomb them, then they take them out, and we have the video of the file cabinets being brought out, while they block saving people screaming for help.

02:10:47.000 Yeah, we have rescue workers on film saying that they think that there was a lot of people that lost their lives because of them stopping to get the documents.

02:10:54.000 Doctors were saying that, and I've talked to rescue workers who said that FBI agents were stepping over wounded people, bleeding people who needed help, stepping over a wounded person to pick up a piece of paper And keep on walking.

02:11:07.000 They were literally more concerned with the paper.

02:11:09.000 Now, I'm not saying that's the precise reason the bombing happened.

02:11:12.000 That's one of the mundane reasons.

02:11:14.000 They actually, that's one of the benefits they got.

02:11:16.000 I don't think that was the precise reason.

02:11:17.000 I think the deeper reason was that it did inaugurate this country into the age of terror.

02:11:23.000 I mean, prior to 1995, terrorism or war was not a concern.

02:11:28.000 You went about your day and you weren't concerned about being bombed.

02:11:31.000 Oklahoma City started to plant that seed in people's minds. 0.99

02:11:34.000 You've got to have spies that grab your wife's breasts and genitals because Al-Qaeda might be hiding in there. 1.00

02:11:40.000 Exactly, and the seed was planted and when 9-11 happened, no one was surprised. 0.97

02:11:44.000 It was going to happen one day because of Oklahoma City.

02:11:47.000 Even prior to Oklahoma City in 1993, you had the World Trade Center bombing in New York City with an ammonium bomb and a Ryder truck and an FBI handler who was running the whole operation.

02:11:55.000 That sounds kind of familiar.

02:11:56.000 And, uh, that failed.

02:11:58.000 They were supposed to park that truck next to the columns. 1.00

02:11:59.000 They were too dumb to even do that. 0.87

02:12:01.000 And, uh, so, I mean, they were really supposed to start getting the ball rolling in 1993. 0.99

02:12:05.000 And Oklahoma City itself was a sloppy job when people say, you know, the government can never pull off something as perfect as that.

02:12:13.000 People would talk.

02:12:14.000 People are talking.

02:12:15.000 People involved are talking.

02:12:16.000 And it was a screw-up.

02:12:18.000 There were bombs found inside the building that did not explode.

02:12:20.000 The whole building was supposed to come down.

02:12:22.000 They messed up on the cover-up left and right. 0.85

02:12:25.000 They had to kill people because of that.

02:12:26.000 I mean, they messed up left and right. 0.85

02:12:28.000 It was a government operation.

02:12:29.000 It was incompetent, but they can rely upon the mainstream media to not pursue those leads.

02:12:35.000 I mean, even to that end, the first hours after the event, you know, that's where you always get the most truthful information, where they're actually talking to people on the streets that saw what, you know, actually happened.

02:12:44.000 Channel 4 was the only station that continued to investigate the truth in this case.

02:12:49.000 So the New York Times bought them out?

02:12:51.000 Exactly.

02:12:52.000 Bottom out.

02:12:52.000 The program director's contract isn't renewed.

02:12:54.000 She was fired.

02:12:55.000 The program director was fired.

02:12:56.000 Jane Davis was let go.

02:12:57.000 Her contract is not renewed.

02:12:58.000 Let's go to more calls.

02:13:00.000 It's just incredible.

02:13:01.000 The film covers it all.

02:13:03.000 Available at Infowars.com.

02:13:04.000 A noble lie.

02:13:05.000 A must-see.

02:13:06.000 Because these will be on every access station.

02:13:09.000 Show it at your church.

02:13:10.000 When your preacher gets up and says, worship government, say, well, okay, but what about the corrupt people on top of government?

02:13:16.000 Jesus was speaking out against the bad government.

02:13:19.000 It was that of the devil.

02:13:20.000 Because, I mean, churches now, it's just worship, get ready to give your rights up.

02:13:25.000 You know, God wants you to worship tyranny.

02:13:27.000 I mean, it's all Homeland Security run.

02:13:29.000 They're getting ready for some new big stage terror.

02:13:31.000 They would have already staged more, but we're exposing them.

02:13:34.000 Let's go ahead and take another call here.

02:13:36.000 Kevin in Oregon, you're on the air.

02:13:38.000 Welcome.

02:13:40.000 Hey, one of the things that was proof to me right off the bat is when they came out and said that the, I used to work for Ford, so the way that they somehow detected this Ford van was because of the tag on the differential.

02:13:57.000 And I can tell you this as fact.

02:14:00.000 That tag has nothing to do with any kind of ID numbers or anything like that.

02:14:04.000 It has strictly to do with gear ratios and things like that. 0.99

02:14:08.000 The same kind of stupid small mistakes were made in 9-11.

02:14:12.000 You get these reporters kind of reporting from every little location during the day of 9-11 and the lady actually points the camera down at all the trucks parked there and said, oh look, the same people that did the Terrific implosion in Las Vegas, so the casino are here to take care of Building 7. 0.98

02:14:34.000 Now I'm telling you this, it's not some... Sir, I didn't hang up on you.

02:14:40.000 It's not some guy that drives up with a minivan with a box of dynamite in the back of his van.

02:14:45.000 You're talking about... Yeah, yeah, let me stop you, because I heard those types of things on the radio that day, because in between watching TV and being on all the different Genesis shows, You know, I drove to get a pizza a half mile away.

02:14:57.000 I've told the story and heard CBS Radio, back when they still had that, announcing they're going to blow up Building 7, Solomon Brothers, for everyone's safety, and of course we know Control Demolition, Inc., that blew up the remains of Oklahoma City Building.

02:15:11.000 They were involved in all that.

02:15:13.000 And I heard them blow it up.

02:15:14.000 And then I got home and everybody's like, yeah, they said they blew it up.

02:15:16.000 But then they said, that's a conspiracy theory.

02:15:18.000 You never heard that.

02:15:20.000 Since then, we found a lot of the newscasts where they did say they're going to bring it down.

02:15:23.000 BBC screwed up and said it's already fallen and showed it.

02:15:27.000 And of course, then they go, wait, it hasn't fallen.

02:15:29.000 But they go, we'll go with the script.

02:15:31.000 So kind of like they were announcing that they'd found Lee Harvey Oswald before he'd even been arrested.

02:15:35.000 That was already being put out in the daily newspapers.

02:15:38.000 Back in the day, they had papers in big cities that came out every few hours.

02:15:42.000 You know, extra, extra exclusives that would come off the presses.

02:15:46.000 And so they screw up.

02:15:47.000 Yeah, they screw up in the scripting.

02:15:50.000 But I have not seen that footage.

02:15:52.000 Are you saying, did you see it that day?

02:15:54.000 Or is it online?

02:15:56.000 Because a lot of people call in and they, we go find these bombshells that no one's paid attention to.

02:16:01.000 You're saying there's footage.

02:16:02.000 Because we got cops saying, get back, they're going to blow up Building 7.

02:16:04.000 And then they blow it up.

02:16:06.000 But are you telling me that you've got footage of them saying, oh, there's the, there's the controlled demolition ink, they're here to help with building seven, blow it up.

02:16:16.000 Are you saying you have that clip?

02:16:20.000 CNN that they shot this, and I wish I did have the clip.

02:16:23.000 I've tried to find it, but I can't because they've buried that thing so deep.

02:16:26.000 No, I know, I know.

02:16:27.000 There's actually dozens of them, so we already have them saying similar things.

02:16:30.000 And then the debunkers get in my face on the streets, and they go, you're saying the cops blew it up.

02:16:35.000 And I go, no.

02:16:36.000 They told the cops, who I've interviewed, by the way, the officers, who are also on the news, We've actually had a chance to run into him and find him.

02:16:43.000 They told him, OK, they're going to blow it up.

02:16:45.000 It was on the news.

02:16:46.000 They said for its safety.

02:16:47.000 They had a countdown.

02:16:48.000 They blew up Building 7.

02:16:50.000 Then they didn't want that investigated.

02:16:52.000 So they said never happened.

02:16:53.000 And you're supposed to just say, OK, never happened.

02:16:55.000 Because it's amazing the level of mind control.

02:16:59.000 Holland.

02:17:00.000 Yes, the caller is right about the Ryder truck and the number on that.

02:17:05.000 And that was bandied about with the media as the, you know, the FBI was so good that they tracked down this vehicle identification number on the axle and have identified this Ryder truck, typed it, this rental agency in Kansas.

02:17:16.000 That's like passports falling out of the sky that survive on 9-11 and are found that day.

02:17:20.000 We've been talking to Ford about this, their representative, and he chuckled.

02:17:24.000 He looked at us and said, that's a part number.

02:17:26.000 That's nothing to do with identifying the truck.

02:17:28.000 You cannot track the truck through a part number.

02:17:31.000 And so, I mean, the first clue that they used to justify their whole arrest and tracking down a McVeigh is false.

02:17:38.000 It's utterly false from the horse's mouth.

02:17:40.000 So it's just like the magic passports of 9-11.

02:17:43.000 Exactly.

02:17:44.000 And you know, you talk about them talking about bringing the building down in 9-11.

02:17:47.000 We've got probably three to four minutes, 20 plus people saying, second bomb.

02:17:52.000 We've got the, we see the bomb squad down at the Oklahoma City, you know, at the Murrah building.

02:17:57.000 We see people in the military saying that the second bomb that was disarmed the night before was even bigger.

02:18:05.000 The Air Force was stating that even the day after the bombing, their representative was standing there.

02:18:09.000 The governor saying they found more bombs.

02:18:11.000 Yeah, and now we're supposed to just act like that didn't exist.

02:18:14.000 You know, shut up conspiracy theorists, right?

02:18:16.000 No, and it's on all the channels.

02:18:18.000 BBC, simultaneously on two channels, says it's fallen on its own footprint, as it later did perfectly from small fires.

02:18:27.000 And then on 9-11, they've got all these guys that are definitely operatives, baseball caps on, coming on the news within minutes of the towers falling, and giving the official story of jet fuel, pancaking, caused the steel to melt and weaken, and so it fell into its own footprint.

02:18:41.000 Cut to the next channel, another guy, you know, just scripting, boom, you've got the terrorist right there!

02:18:48.000 Right there!

02:18:49.000 It is a script.

02:18:49.000 Like with Oklahoma City, the day of the bombing, that afternoon, the ATF is announcing that it was a car bomb with 1,200 pounds of explosives.

02:18:56.000 It's like, where did you come up with that number, man?

02:18:58.000 I mean, how would you even hazard a guess as to how many pounds the bomb weighed?

02:19:03.000 You don't even know what it is.

02:19:04.000 Turns out later that the ATF was keeping 1,200 pounds, according to a rescue worker, He actually told the rescue worker that they were keeping 1,200 pounds of C4 in their illegal armory in the Murrah building.

02:19:16.000 They were hoping it would blow up.

02:19:17.000 It didn't because the other bombs didn't go off, so they had to pull it out.

02:19:20.000 But they actually got the number for the script, 1,200 pounds, from the amount of C4 they were keeping in their own armory illegally.

02:19:27.000 Well, they were keeping the stuff there that they used the extra to blow it up!

02:19:31.000 Yeah, they say that it doesn't exist and we've got footage in the documentary of Noble Eye showing them actually removing the C4 and weapons.

02:19:37.000 And you got Jane Graham sees these guys in there, you know, whistling, putting the grey sticks of butter with the wires.

02:19:46.000 These people make me sick.

02:19:47.000 Let's take more calls on the other side.

02:19:48.000 I hope that answers your question, Kevin.

02:19:50.000 Great points you brought up.

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02:24:21.000 Everybody won't be treated all the same.

02:24:26.000 There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.

02:24:29.000 By the way, John Bowne, one of our reporters, who also runs the show in there part of the time, the radio show slash TV.

02:24:39.000 We'll just talk to you during the next segment when our guests are gone.

02:24:43.000 He was, I said, man, you look bummed out.

02:24:44.000 And he said, yeah, you know, he lives in a whole nother part of Austin, pretty far away from here.

02:24:50.000 And he said a silver Fed car with super dark windows with antennas all over it, followed him all the way from his house to our office today and then drove off.

02:25:01.000 And I was like, well, why don't you have a camera?

02:25:03.000 And he usually does.

02:25:05.000 And, you know, with me, I would just immediately pull over.

02:25:08.000 I mean, up at Bilderberg they'd follow us and I'd start following them and they'd start running.

02:25:12.000 And then we'd have these Marines in plainclothes flipping us off.

02:25:16.000 Anybody that serves this system and gets off on this, trying to intimidate people around here, you do not intimidate us.

02:25:22.000 You only validate everything we're doing and make us get up with a bigger spring in our step in the morning. 0.99

02:25:28.000 It's so ridiculous and cowardly. 1.00

02:25:31.000 Just do what you're going to do! 1.00

02:25:32.000 Come on! 0.61

02:25:33.000 Join pure evil! 0.96

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02:25:43.000 This big report, comic book hero, crafting the image of genocidalist Bill Gates as a lifesaver.

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02:25:53.000 You know, his wife came out in Germany and said, those of you saying that we're trying to reduce population, you're going to cause the loss of life.

02:26:01.000 That's like a double threat.

02:26:04.000 Like, we don't know we're in danger.

02:26:06.000 Like, we don't know.

02:26:07.000 Look, get it through your head.

02:26:09.000 We know. 0.98

02:26:10.000 People that get jobs here are told up front, you're signing on to something real that can get you killed.

02:26:17.000 Or set up, or whatever.

02:26:19.000 See, that takes their fun away, though. 0.92

02:26:21.000 See, we're not cowards like you who go and join the dark side thinking it'll give you all this power. 1.00

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02:26:36.000 We know, okay?

02:26:37.000 We know!

02:26:38.000 You're like, hey, we're evil!

02:26:40.000 Hey, better watch talking about- Oh no, we know!

02:26:43.000 Don't you understand?

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02:26:53.000 We know! 0.99

02:26:53.000 You just can't get it through your head, we're not cowards like you! 0.99

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02:26:57.000 We know!

02:26:58.000 Going back to our guest, do you guys ever get threats?

02:27:00.000 What type of stuff's happened to you making this film?

02:27:03.000 Well, I mean, nothing majorly overt.

02:27:06.000 I think no one thought we'd get the movie done, so we weren't seen as a threat.

02:27:10.000 There have been attempts in the past to infiltrate our efforts, and they've been foiled rather easily.

02:27:15.000 But the making of the movie itself, I mean, doing that, I mean, we weren't dealing with overt threats, but I mean, there was a couple times we risked our lives just interviewing some of these neo-Nazi suspects going out into the desert to Utah or the wilds of eastern Oklahoma.

02:27:28.000 You don't know who you're going to run into.

02:27:30.000 And some of these guys were involved with the bombing, even if they were federal informants or not.

02:27:34.000 And they definitely have something to hide.

02:27:37.000 So, I mean, but we felt compelled to do what we could to get the story out there.

02:27:41.000 And we're from Oklahoma, we're Okies, and we filmed at Oklahoma, shot in Oklahoma.

02:27:46.000 And we knew the story had to be told.

02:27:48.000 Many of these people, survivors, victims, family members, have become friends of ours.

02:27:52.000 And their story needed to be told.

02:27:54.000 It was being ignored by the mainstream media.

02:27:56.000 Like our Director of Photography, Devin Winter, he'd interviewed some of our subjects already three or four times for History Channel, for Nat Geo, for other mainstream video channels or TV channels.

02:28:09.000 And they told the same story each time.

02:28:11.000 But with us, we didn't take everything that went contrary to the official story and leave it on the cutting room floor.

02:28:18.000 We actually, that was the purpose of the interview, to show what was contrary to the official story.

02:28:23.000 And they have never changed their story.

02:28:24.000 The feds changed their story left and right.

02:28:26.000 There's not even one official story for the Oklahoma City bombing.

02:28:29.000 There's like nine or six different plausible... And I want to be clear, these aren't even feds.

02:28:33.000 These are criminals that have taken the federal government over.

02:28:36.000 Yeah, I mean, we've reached a period of history, I think, that we, it's called the criminalization of the state, where criminals basically have achieved positions of power and they point the gun to the state at their enemies, at their political enemies, and they call them criminals.

02:28:47.000 We have reached that stage.

02:28:49.000 And we have to deal with it as much as we can.

02:28:51.000 We have to realize that, not have false hope, deal with the system when we can.

02:28:55.000 Hey, but you're a Marine.

02:28:56.000 Doesn't it feel good to actually be fighting for America now against the real enemy?

02:28:59.000 I mean, this is a real war.

02:29:01.000 Yeah, I mean, I joined the Marine Corps out of an instinct to protect my family and my land and craving for a rite of passage and to seek adventure.

02:29:12.000 I had a lot of testosterone, I didn't want a job.

02:29:15.000 So I joined the Marine Corps, plus there's a family tradition, and I quickly saw that there were things in there I didn't like.

02:29:20.000 I mean, when I took the oath, This is the fight.

02:29:22.000 This is the battle for the republic.

02:29:24.000 All of you resisting tyranny are in the footsteps of the founders.

02:29:26.000 went in the room yelling that part of the oath.

02:29:26.000 Calls coming up.

02:29:28.000 I took it seriously.

02:29:29.000 I did my four years.

02:29:30.000 I realized I can't work for Uncle Sam anymore, and I got out.

02:29:33.000 And I consider this a more noble fight than I was doing in there.

02:29:36.000 This is the fight.

02:29:37.000 This is the battle for the republic.

02:29:38.000 All of you resisting tyranny are in the footsteps of the founders.

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02:33:07.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

02:33:11.000 We're going back to our guest, but here's John Bowne.

02:33:20.000 He's done reports for us, board ops, produces, does a great job.

02:33:24.000 Everybody's cross-trained here, has worked for local TV stations, had his own radio show in the past, journalist.

02:33:30.000 Your dad's a Peabody journalist, won one of the biggest awards you can get, so a long family of journalists.

02:33:36.000 And, uh, you know, no criminal record, really nice family, know your wife, know your, you know, children and things.

02:33:41.000 You got a nice little 15-mile turn after turn, little Fed behind you with all the antennas and stuff right up on your butt today after you left your house, uh, again, purely to try to mess with your mind. 1.00

02:33:54.000 Move to North Korea, you un-American trash! 1.00

02:33:57.000 You're mad we're talking about your narcotics trafficking? 1.00

02:34:00.000 You're mad about your Fast and Furious?

02:34:02.000 I mean, just don't they get everybody that works here already knows this?

02:34:06.000 I mean, it doesn't intimidate you, does it?

02:34:08.000 No, actually, I was conversing with them, hoping they could hear me in my car about 10 miles, or 10 miles down.

02:34:15.000 Yeah, because they do without warrants put sound bugs and GPS, you know.

02:34:18.000 So I started telling them that, uh, I hope you realize I'm on official business and you're not.

02:34:26.000 You know, you're on criminal business and you guys need to just move on.

02:34:31.000 I'm assuming guys, because you couldn't see anything because the windows were shut.

02:34:35.000 We actually have this.

02:34:36.000 We have a bunch of raw footage because it just goes on and on.

02:34:38.000 But in Obama deception, they would follow us out of the hotel.

02:34:41.000 We'd make all these like 10 turns and then we start chasing them.

02:34:45.000 And then and then they would run and run into a bathroom. 0.86

02:34:48.000 And it was always a military guy, 40 years old, shaved head, you know, in a suit or whatever.

02:34:53.000 And I mean, it's just like, man, it's not scary.

02:34:57.000 We understand.

02:34:58.000 Did a great job in Oklahoma City.

02:35:00.000 Blowing up kids is really cool.

02:35:02.000 Yeah, and at that level, what are you thinking?

02:35:04.000 You know, you're an American citizen.

02:35:06.000 I'm an American citizen.

02:35:08.000 You've got a little badge and a uniform.

02:35:11.000 You're the bad guy.

02:35:12.000 You got assigned this detail today, and you're the enemy. 0.96

02:35:16.000 You're the bad guy.

02:35:17.000 Not me.

02:35:18.000 I'm just doing my job.

02:35:20.000 I'm expressing the amendments of the Constitution.

02:35:23.000 That's right.

02:35:24.000 That's all I'm doing.

02:35:25.000 I'm doing you a favor.

02:35:27.000 They don't care. 0.98

02:35:28.000 They want, they shoot their kids up with every shot there is. 0.99

02:35:31.000 They love it, man. 0.96

02:35:32.000 Are you kidding these guys?

02:35:33.000 Totally brainwashed.

02:35:33.000 I mean, I mean, because it'd be one thing if they thought you were doing something and were surveilling you or whatever.

02:35:38.000 Following you like this.

02:35:39.000 You said you were, not even, not driving recklessly, but you were cut in front of cars seeing they were just right on you, man.

02:35:44.000 Yep, yep.

02:35:45.000 And they had all the antennas, everything.

02:35:47.000 Yeah, yeah, it was a pretty serious looking car.

02:35:49.000 I wouldn't even say it was APD.

02:35:50.000 I mean, it was, it was Silver, with all the antennas, windows tinted to the point of being illegal.

02:36:00.000 You know?

02:36:00.000 That's another thing I was talking to him about.

02:36:03.000 Well, they're above the law.

02:36:04.000 Yeah.

02:36:05.000 Like Congress and insider trades.

02:36:06.000 Well, you know, they say above the law.

02:36:08.000 To them, there is no law.

02:36:10.000 Well, there's only the law.

02:36:10.000 Yeah.

02:36:11.000 Imagine cowards that are criminals that go join to be in the system because they think they're winning. 0.65

02:36:18.000 Yeah, let's join this club and take this country down. 0.87

02:36:21.000 Why don't they just openly get together and talk about doing it?

02:36:23.000 Well, they are now.

02:36:24.000 They actually do say they're getting rid of America and freedom, don't they?

02:36:26.000 Yeah, they could have, you know, instead of the Policeman's Ball or the Fed Ball, they could once a year, you know, let's have a take the United States down party.

02:36:35.000 And have a giant piñata that's America just beat it. 1.00

02:36:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:36:38.000 They could have their kids shot up with vaccines to... Yeah, right on the... Try to hit it, but they can't.

02:36:43.000 Well, Mike Adams has got the documents now where the doctors are telling people, now get ready for a convulsion, but don't come to the hospital when you have this convulsion.

02:36:51.000 That's just the brain damaging process.

02:36:53.000 It's very nice.

02:36:53.000 Sure.

02:36:55.000 Oh, it's exceptional.

02:36:57.000 It's a loving reality.

02:36:59.000 But see, this isn't Germany or Russia.

02:37:01.000 We have the Second Amendment.

02:37:02.000 We have the First Amendment history.

02:37:03.000 People are fighting it.

02:37:04.000 We're not just, oh, your scary black uniforms. 0.63

02:37:07.000 Oh, oh, don't get me.

02:37:09.000 Yeah, I was actually having a thought when I started to realize they were following me.

02:37:15.000 I was having this thought about the Federal Reserve, and I was thinking about the metaphor of the Federal Reserve actually being a ticket counter that they've created, and your money is nothing but a ticket to their reality, and they can print up as many tickets as they want.

02:37:31.000 And then I look, you know, it is...

02:37:33.000 Yeah.

02:37:34.000 These guys are following me.

02:37:35.000 So right when you pull out of your street, boom, they're on you.

02:37:37.000 Boom, they're on me.

02:37:38.000 And then, we're not going to see where you live, but I mean, it's like 15, 20 turns.

02:37:41.000 Yeah.

02:37:41.000 I mean, they're here.

02:37:42.000 They follow you 15 miles.

02:37:43.000 Sure.

02:37:44.000 I mean, you know.

02:37:45.000 And then you get to the office and they turn off.

02:37:46.000 Yep.

02:37:47.000 Just wanting you to know.

02:37:48.000 Yeah.

02:37:50.000 Just trying to intimidate me.

02:37:51.000 You know what's great about my wife? 1.00

02:37:52.000 They call and go, we're going to cut your head off. 1.00

02:37:54.000 And they'll go, I see the little dog in the back. 1.00

02:37:56.000 Yeah, I'm watching you right now. 1.00

02:37:57.000 And she's like, you cowardly piece of crap. 1.00

02:37:59.000 I got a shotgun right here. 1.00

02:38:01.000 The fact that it only gets her more excited. 0.99

02:38:03.000 She's not a coward like you. 0.93

02:38:03.000 She doesn't care. 0.93

02:38:05.000 Piece of trash. 1.00

02:38:06.000 They're sweating bullets. 1.00

02:38:08.000 They're calling up and going, oh, your dad's in the hospital.

02:38:10.000 We love it.

02:38:11.000 I was just listening to you talk to your husband.

02:38:13.000 I mean, that's who these people are! 1.00

02:38:14.000 The idiot public has not been involved in this. 1.00

02:38:17.000 They don't know. 1.00

02:38:19.000 They don't understand.

02:38:20.000 They're gonna understand.

02:38:21.000 You're gonna understand, folks, because they're coming.

02:38:23.000 I mean, it's gonna get bad.

02:38:25.000 It's becoming a larger and larger reality.

02:38:27.000 Definitely.

02:38:28.000 But it's our reality, and that's just a little reminder.

02:38:31.000 But I'm not afraid of you.

02:38:33.000 I've already died twice.

02:38:36.000 I got nothing to lose except this country and my family's security and future, so whatever.

02:38:42.000 Go ahead and follow me all you want.

02:38:44.000 But it's not even about that.

02:38:45.000 It's that commitment to defeating evil.

02:38:47.000 It isn't, I mean, with me, it's like, I love my family more than anything, but if something happens to them, that's just the way it is.

02:38:52.000 It's just like, I'm all in, baby.

02:38:54.000 I mean, just don't you get it?

02:38:55.000 We're the opposite of you.

02:38:58.000 We're the opposite.

02:38:59.000 I mean, imagine the Secret Service. 0.96

02:39:01.000 They already had the hookers pre-purchased. 1.00

02:39:03.000 I mean, I just can't imagine.

02:39:04.000 If I went to some place that had time off, I don't want to go see the sites or ancient archaeological digs, or I want to go see some mountain lake or something, or an active volcano.

02:39:14.000 You know, that's all down there.

02:39:15.000 Instead, they want to... 1.00

02:39:17.000 That's like wanting to go lick toilet bowls or something to be with a bunch of hookers that like 20 people a day are having sex with. 1.00

02:39:22.000 That's what the Secret Service is. 1.00

02:39:24.000 But they're not even corrupt compared to their bosses that like to shotgun kids in the head for fun.

02:39:29.000 Right.

02:39:29.000 I mean, you know, that's what the... We're run by these people.

02:39:32.000 Well, in the Secret Service, we like to think they're squeaky clean, but you go back to JFK, you know, they're hooking JFK up and who knows... It's all complete farce!

02:39:40.000 That's the thing about evil people, though. 1.00

02:39:42.000 They're all dysfunctional, malfunctioning idiots. 1.00

02:39:46.000 This is true. 1.00

02:39:47.000 I mean, I was reading where the feds, most of them don't even pay taxes.

02:39:49.000 It's just, I mean, they're just a wall to wall.

02:39:52.000 Look at Nancy Pelosi. 0.76

02:39:54.000 Look at Obama. 0.98

02:39:55.000 These are sacks of crud. 0.90

02:39:56.000 I mean, I remember Jay Rockefeller when Luke Radowski's following him in the halls of the Senate going, yeah, your family funded the Nazis. 0.51

02:40:02.000 They funded eugenics. 0.74

02:40:03.000 And he looks at him and he goes, you got a lot of, you know, what's ought to give you a job.

02:40:07.000 But that was the only, he actually looked at him with respect. 0.95

02:40:10.000 Because this is a killer!

02:40:11.000 You know, he's walking around like 6'6", and he just looks over to Luke, he's like... He goes, like, I got one that can see!

02:40:18.000 He's like, Sauron's eye!

02:40:19.000 I ought to give you a job! 0.99

02:40:21.000 Want one that actually knows what I am?

02:40:23.000 The dragon's eye!

02:40:24.000 You know, it's just like, you know...

02:40:27.000 Yeah, it's uh... well and the thing is is that they've they're under the impression from the fifties and the forties and before that we're on a that people are unaware i think there's still got a block in their minds That there aren't 20 million people week-in-week-out listening to this, that are completely... Well, it's like 15 million a week with us, but with other stuff it's like hundreds of millions.

02:40:50.000 I mean, what are you, people are buying 5 million guns a month to play tiddlywinks with them?

02:40:55.000 No, they say, I don't trust the government.

02:40:59.000 Well, I just want to remind everybody to impeach Obama.

02:41:03.000 Yeah, we do.

02:41:04.000 And then they're like, well, what, the others were corrupt?

02:41:05.000 Yeah, we tried to impeach them.

02:41:07.000 No, we're in bad shape if we don't impeach Obama right now.

02:41:11.000 This needs to happen.

02:41:13.000 This needs to happen.

02:41:14.000 I mean, you know these crooks are scared when we're on air talking about them.

02:41:18.000 They're driving around in their fancy cars that we paid for.

02:41:18.000 Sure.

02:41:21.000 Trying to intimidate you because they think you're like them, John.

02:41:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:41:25.000 And they're like, we'll get you one day strapped down, torturing a Jones. 1.00

02:41:27.000 We'll break you.

02:41:28.000 So what? 0.96

02:41:29.000 You break me. 0.96

02:41:30.000 I've already fired all my weapons in the info ward at you. 0.86

02:41:33.000 Don't you get it?

02:41:33.000 I win.

02:41:34.000 I declare victory.

02:41:34.000 I've won.

02:41:38.000 Want to declare victory, John?

02:41:40.000 Do you want some kind of battle cry?

02:41:42.000 No, I mean, we're just declaring victory over the New World Order. 0.70

02:41:45.000 We declare victory in the name of Jesus Christ over the devil and all his servants.

02:41:49.000 Then I declare victory over the New World Order and the devil in the name of Jesus Christ. 0.78

02:41:56.000 And I want you folks to know that you've lost.

02:41:59.000 That's right.

02:42:00.000 You've lost.

02:42:01.000 You've lost.

02:42:01.000 You're losing.

02:42:03.000 You're overreaching.

02:42:04.000 You're getting desperate.

02:42:06.000 You've lost.

02:42:07.000 And just like D'Alamo, some of us won't make it through this, but it'll be the spark for the big event.

02:42:12.000 That's what this is all about.

02:42:13.000 Okay, guys, I've been ranting.

02:42:14.000 I want to go to calls.

02:42:15.000 Thank you, John.

02:42:16.000 Hearing John tell that story right there, because I could tell he was angry all morning, and I was asking, what's wrong?

02:42:22.000 He told me the story.

02:42:23.000 What do you make of that?

02:42:25.000 I mean, that's nothing compared to me being physically attacked, the death threats, all of it.

02:42:28.000 But I mean, it just shows they're testing John to see if they can really terrorize him and his family.

02:42:33.000 It's about intimidation, you know.

02:42:35.000 We've had Chris Emery has been followed.

02:42:38.000 A private investigator that was working on the Terrence Yakey story was followed and he actually managed to get the license plate number.

02:42:45.000 There was an associate of ours that actually ran that and said it came back as non-existent.

02:42:50.000 He said that's typically only a government vehicle.

02:42:52.000 That happens out of a lot of the vehicles that come in and out of the memorial.

02:42:55.000 There's also an intelligence unit being run out of the memorial downtown in Oklahoma City.

02:42:59.000 The Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism.

02:43:02.000 And we've had people run plates on those cars, and they're not existing either.

02:43:06.000 So, I mean, there's a lot of spooks in this town, and they've tried to intimidate us.

02:43:11.000 But, frankly, you better watch out if you try something like that on me.

02:43:16.000 Why?

02:43:17.000 And the thing is, I mean... I don't back down, and yeah, try it.

02:43:21.000 Well, you don't want to end up like Terence Yegge.

02:43:23.000 That's a lesson to everybody.

02:43:24.000 He figured it out and started fighting, but...

02:43:26.000 You know, that's the thing about the feds.

02:43:28.000 Listen, the feds need to get this.

02:43:30.000 When they start secretly arresting and killing people, folks aren't just going to start going with somebody when they get pulled over.

02:43:37.000 And police and others need to understand that.

02:43:39.000 This is going to cause a fight you can't win.

02:43:42.000 You need to join the American people right now.

02:43:44.000 Go ahead, I'm sorry.

02:43:45.000 Terrence Yickey was probably killed because he was keeping his mouth shut.

02:43:50.000 That's what Jesse Trenton told us.

02:43:51.000 You never keep a secret.

02:43:53.000 You always get it out there as soon as possible.

02:43:55.000 That way they have no reason to kill you.

02:43:57.000 It's already out there.

02:43:58.000 That's why we announced the documentary when we came to do the interview with you, Alex.

02:44:02.000 That was the first interview that we shot for the documentary.

02:44:05.000 And we came out on your show saying that we were doing the documentary.

02:44:07.000 That way everybody knows.

02:44:08.000 There's no question about it.

02:44:09.000 And at best, all they can try to do, I think, at that point is to intimidate you.

02:44:12.000 Because we have too large of a network of activists that know what's going on.

02:44:15.000 Well, that's what Jim Garrison said.

02:44:17.000 Jim Garrison said, you've got to be public.

02:44:19.000 And he did the same stuff calling up his kids and his wife and women saying he was cheating on them.

02:44:23.000 It's a standard playbook.

02:44:25.000 And that's when you know, just like my grandpa, you know, flying around in a B-17, when you go over the enemy, that's when you get the flack.

02:44:32.000 That is a good sign.

02:44:34.000 And that's where we don't stand, or we don't cave to the intimidation.

02:44:38.000 You know, I ask myself every day, what can I do today to expand or preserve individual liberty?

02:44:43.000 As long as I'm doing that, then I'm staying focused.

02:44:46.000 And there's a lot of blowback when they do stuff like this.

02:44:48.000 They regret to this day killing Kenny Trentadue.

02:44:51.000 Because of that, Jesse has pursued them in court and rubbed the FBI's nose in their own waste ever since with their own poor excuses.

02:45:00.000 They regret and they will rue to their dying day that they decided to kill Kenny Trentadue because of Jesse.

02:45:05.000 So, I mean, they may kill some of us, but believe me, we're coming back and we learned from Terry Yeakey, you're not doing that again.

02:45:12.000 You're not getting away with that again.

02:45:15.000 Well, well said, gentlemen.

02:45:16.000 Well said there. 1.00

02:45:18.000 It's just, you know, and most of these idiots, they're trying to intimidate people. 1.00

02:45:23.000 I mean, the order goes out, try to intimidate people? 1.00

02:45:26.000 It's probably the local Austin FBI.

02:45:28.000 They're mad that through an intermediary they told me to be nice, and I wasn't even talking about the FBI, so now I talk about them every day.

02:45:33.000 I mean, I just don't get what world do they want their children growing up in a country like this is what I want to know.

02:45:41.000 Yeah, they're power hungry.

02:45:42.000 I mean, they're completely obsessed with their own ego and power.

02:45:47.000 That's what strikes me.

02:45:48.000 I want to ask him, what do you think you're doing?

02:45:50.000 Do you honestly think you're on the good side?

02:45:53.000 I mean, look at what you're doing.

02:45:54.000 These are citizens who are making inquiries and then going on the internet and writing articles and whatever.

02:45:59.000 I mean, they're not criminals.

02:46:00.000 Where are you coming from with this?

02:46:03.000 I mean, I really want to know the answer to that.

02:46:05.000 Well, they're criminals, or they've gotten hyped up in the process to joining it, and ask yourself, look the line you've crossed.

02:46:13.000 Because this isn't like you go over a line and it's incremental.

02:46:15.000 You go over this line, you fall into the deep end.

02:46:18.000 I mean, you're falling in with some really bad people.

02:46:23.000 I mean, most people will just pretty much do what they're told, and especially in a paramilitary organization, the police or whatever, in an extraordinary circumstance, you kind of just do what you're told and keep your mouth shut.

02:46:32.000 But I mean, under circumstances like this, when you're being told, ordered to intimidate and follow people who are not criminals, not engaging in criminal activity, and you know, advisedly, they're telling people not to be criminals.

02:46:45.000 Um, so you're actively violating your oath, you're actively violating the Constitution, you're actively violating the integrity that the people expect you to uphold as a police officer, as a law enforcement officer.

02:46:55.000 I mean, I'm not against the police officers.

02:46:57.000 You know what I'm gonna do?

02:46:58.000 I'm gonna go over to the FBI garage.

02:47:01.000 It might have been ATF or somebody else, but I know the ATF's up in North Austin.

02:47:04.000 I know the FBI's main... I'm gonna go, I think I'm gonna take John up to find their garage and find that vehicle and then we're gonna go and knock on the door.

02:47:13.000 I think that's the answer here.

02:47:14.000 Start following them around.

02:47:16.000 Yeah, we've thought about going to the local Fusion Syringe Center here in Oklahoma City since they've named us as a domestic terrorist threat and have a sit-down with them and ask them... Oh, that's right! 0.90

02:47:24.000 You got put on one of the little secret lists as terrorist.

02:47:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:47:27.000 So, we want to ask them what the criteria is and what we actually... I mean, since we didn't do anything, what can we get away with now that we're already terrorists?

02:47:35.000 Yeah, I mean, for a website that was actually for the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee.

02:47:39.000 Yeah, that was a state representative.

02:47:41.000 They listed them as terrorists, yeah.

02:47:42.000 A survivor, a man who was three foot away from where the floor dropped off, lost dozens of his friends, and they labeled him a terrorist, B.Z.

02:47:51.000 Lawton, who's a pillar of this community. 0.90

02:47:53.000 Because they are terrorists! 0.98

02:47:54.000 I mean, look, to a terrorist, good guys are terrorists! 0.96

02:47:58.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

02:47:59.000 It's like the pigs that have the demons in them or whatever. 0.90

02:48:02.000 Or the homeless guys that have the demons in them and Christ is there and they're rolling around just in the ground pleading. 0.97

02:48:09.000 I mean, imagine how horrible we are to them.

02:48:12.000 Go ahead.

02:48:14.000 Well, I was going to say, the bravery of the survivors that have come out and pursued the truth in this case, we wouldn't know a fraction of what we do if it wasn't for them and their bravery.

02:48:22.000 So, you know, you had Jane Graham on, you've had, you know, Hoppy, you've had all these other people that were involved, and they're all saying the same thing.

02:48:30.000 They say it's time for this other generation to pick up the torch and run with this.

02:48:34.000 How's Hoppy doing right now?

02:48:35.000 I know he's got, he's getting treatment for cancer.

02:48:38.000 He's sick.

02:48:39.000 Yeah.

02:48:39.000 Him and VZ and several of them, yeah, they're not doing well.

02:48:44.000 Well, they're in the film.

02:48:45.000 Patriot and Texas, you're on the air.

02:48:47.000 Go ahead.

02:48:49.000 I profit, brother.

02:48:50.000 I love you, I love your crew, and I just want to say Godspeed to you all, and thank you for what you guys do, man.

02:48:55.000 You do something very special.

02:48:57.000 Well, but we're looking for everybody else to do something.

02:48:59.000 We're doing what we need to do.

02:49:02.000 Yes, I hear you.

02:49:03.000 Man, I give your films out to everybody I come in contact with, not just one film at a time.

02:49:08.000 I put six or seven films on there, and anybody that has a like-mindedness to myself, That we share discussion and we're on the same subject and we feel the same way.

02:49:17.000 I give your information out like candy.

02:49:20.000 I give it to everybody.

02:49:21.000 I talk to you.

02:49:22.000 I give your websites out.

02:49:23.000 Ron Paul.

02:49:24.000 Everybody needs to follow Ron Paul.

02:49:25.000 You know, I try to spread this message as much as possible.

02:49:27.000 I'm probably one of the few people in this state that actually called a representative.

02:49:31.000 On a weekly basis.

02:49:32.000 To let them know, I know what you're up to.

02:49:34.000 Mr. Conaway represents my district.

02:49:37.000 Kay Bailey Hutchinson represents my district.

02:49:39.000 And I know what they're up to.

02:49:40.000 I've gone to debate Conaway and he lied to the whole public.

02:49:44.000 He lied to everybody in that room.

02:49:46.000 He had them filling out a questionnaire when I walked in.

02:49:48.000 I was a couple minutes late.

02:49:49.000 He had them filling out a questionnaire for him.

02:49:51.000 And then he was asking the crowd questions.

02:49:54.000 And they were answering his questions.

02:49:56.000 And as soon as I saw this, I said, well look at these sheep just lined up for the slaughter.

02:50:00.000 They came and they just lied right up to be lied to and wouldn't accept the truth.

02:50:05.000 A man talked about Constitution left and right until I brought up the fact that I studied his voting rights.

02:50:10.000 I understand.

02:50:11.000 Do you have any questions for our guests?

02:50:12.000 We're taking calls in Oklahoma City.

02:50:15.000 Yes, I'm sorry I got off subject there.

02:50:17.000 I knew Timothy McVeigh.

02:50:18.000 Timothy McVeigh was a customer of my stepfather's dent shop in Arizona when I was just a small boy.

02:50:22.000 I've been listening to you ever since you've been on the air.

02:50:25.000 The gentleman talked about McVeigh being thought of as a fed by the people he talked to because he was just so adamant about what he was preaching to people and wanted to get everybody tuned on and tuned in and turned on and tuned in and turned on and in.

02:50:40.000 Exactly what we're all doing right now, and I see that as not being a bad thing about the guy.

02:50:46.000 I've been going back and looking at the ABC interviews with him, you know, the one clip that they will show you of the guy.

02:50:52.000 You know what, that's not the same guy I knew as a kid.

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02:53:59.000 Oh, we're covering all this hardcore news and I hear George Strait and just want to sit back.

02:54:14.000 If you leave me, I won't miss you.

02:54:24.000 Yeah, if you believe that, folks.

02:54:26.000 You know, you're only alive once.

02:54:32.000 Which side are you on?

02:54:35.000 What do you stand for?

02:54:37.000 You're only alive once.

02:54:38.000 Which side are you on?

02:54:40.000 What do you stand for?

02:54:44.000 Will you disgrace your ancestors?

02:54:49.000 And all they did to stand for what's right, every freedom we've got was hard won.

02:54:54.000 Oceanfront property We're talking to this gentleman earlier who called in to say he knew McVeigh.

02:54:59.000 A lot of people say that's not McVeigh, or they say it looked like he was drugged out of his mind.

02:55:03.000 We know he was sheep-dipped out of the military, that's a classic black ops situation. 0.97

02:55:08.000 Holland, what's your take on that?

02:55:11.000 Well, the caller, I guess, was referring to the fact that he knew McVeigh as a child and he kind of looked up to McVeigh.

02:55:16.000 Well, I'm not saying that McVeigh was going around to every person he met in his life and advocating overthrowing the government, but he was, and I know this for a fact because I've talked to people he was talking to, he was going up to known figures in the neo-Nazi and far-right movement and preaching insurrection and violence to the fact that the word got around to stay away from this Tim Tuttle guy who was going by the name Tim Tuttle back then.

02:55:38.000 And in fact, McVeigh was actually operating with other known informants.

02:55:43.000 There was an ATF informant in late, actually early 1995, right before the bombing, trying to get people involved in a plot to bomb a Ryder truck with info, a federal building.

02:55:57.000 Exact same script that played out in Oklahoma City.

02:55:59.000 Let's bomb a federal building with a Ryder truck. 0.99

02:56:01.000 Yeah, they were trying forever. 0.96

02:56:03.000 Yeah.

02:56:03.000 But they couldn't set anybody up, so they had to do it themselves.

02:56:05.000 People were saying no, left and right.

02:56:07.000 They wanted nothing to do with this guy.

02:56:08.000 I talked to my witness, Johnny Bangader, and we confirmed this through the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

02:56:12.000 This 18th informant disappeared after the bombing, and they didn't know where he went.

02:56:16.000 They knew he was an informant because he was always preaching this stuff, and he was always paying for everything.

02:56:20.000 That's how they kind of know that you're an informant.

02:56:22.000 You're always paying for everything, and you're always talking about committing felonies.

02:56:27.000 He disappeared.

02:56:28.000 And then they get a letter from him and it's from a jail.

02:56:29.000 And it's like, hey Johnny, I'm sorry that I was trying to get you involved in that plot.

02:56:34.000 The ATF pinched me on automatic weapons charges and they wanted me to get you in on this bombing plot.

02:56:41.000 And because I wasn't able to, I'm back in jail.

02:56:43.000 But this proves that the ATF was shopping a script around with a writer truck, federal building, and foe.

02:56:50.000 And we saw it play out a couple months later in Oklahoma City.

02:56:55.000 But if you're a good patriotic American, Holland, you're supposed to just go along with the official story.

02:57:02.000 Well, it depends on your definition of a good patriotic American.

02:57:06.000 And I do not think that buying a lie and obedience is the highest goal.

02:57:13.000 I believe freedom and individual liberty and our rights are a higher goal to go to than just mere obedience.

02:57:19.000 An animal can obey.

02:57:20.000 Oh, I like Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan kidnapping the country and destroying the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

02:57:26.000 I mean, I think it's great they admit they kidnap and torture people.

02:57:31.000 Are surveilling everybody without warrants.

02:57:32.000 I think this is wonderful.

02:57:33.000 I mean, this is freedom, man.

02:57:34.000 This is what's... You're an extremist, so is James there.

02:57:38.000 Of course, I'm being sarcastic, folks.

02:57:39.000 A noble lie available at InfoWars.com.

02:57:43.000 I can only do a little bit of overdrive here.

02:57:45.000 We're gonna go to break and go to Mark, listening on KLMY 1340 AM, and then Jim and John.

02:57:52.000 I'll try to get to a few others.

02:57:53.000 We're going out to break here in a minute, but real fast.

02:57:55.000 John in Alabama, go ahead.

02:57:56.000 Question?

02:57:58.000 Sir, coming to you from FEMA District 4.

02:58:03.000 Thank you.

02:58:03.000 Are you still there?

02:58:04.000 Yes, I am.

02:58:05.000 I want to thank you for having James and Holland on there.

02:58:05.000 Go ahead.

02:58:09.000 Bought the tape from you within the hour.

02:58:12.000 But the next step is, we know they're not going to blow up more buildings or run airplanes into buildings.

02:58:18.000 The next one's got to be a biggie.

02:58:20.000 And Alex, I think this explains why we have all the 40mm ammo, the bulletproof checkpoint boxes, pillboxes and so forth, is that the next thing is going to be this bird flu virus.

02:58:33.000 I agree with you.

02:58:34.000 They're going to release a bioweapon and they can stay there.

02:58:37.000 We'll be right back.

02:58:42.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

02:58:45.000 Visit GCNlive.com today.

02:58:50.000 Hi, this is Alex Jones.

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02:59:58.000 All right, John in Alabama, finish your point, then I'll get their take on it.

03:00:08.000 But yeah, the bio attack is one of the perfect ways for them to come in and really take over. 1.00

03:00:14.000 And they're gearing up for martial law, admittedly, lockdowns, total control.

03:00:19.000 And I think that's one of the most deadly cards they've got.

03:00:22.000 And they've got five or six cards in their hand.

03:00:25.000 And that's their ace in the hole.

03:00:26.000 And everything I'm seeing tells me that's one of the prime cards they may play.

03:00:31.000 But If they don't think they can control people and have us all just go off and die in our houses like they want, they may not play it.

03:00:39.000 Anything else?

03:00:40.000 Uh, yes, sir.

03:00:41.000 We know that that would terrorize every person in the nation, no matter where they live.

03:00:45.000 I live in the country, so I'm not worried about tall buildings falling on me.

03:00:49.000 But that would terrorize every individual.

03:00:52.000 So, uh, that would work anywhere.

03:00:54.000 And they've got the technology.

03:00:56.000 They may even have a vaccine antidote that the elite get, or whoever.

03:01:00.000 You know, and we're just, uh, that fits with the FEMA counts.

03:01:03.000 You know, if you're a zombie, you might be infected with this stuff, lock them up. 0.99

03:01:07.000 You know, or shoot them. 0.99

03:01:08.000 I mean, it's... 0.99

03:01:09.000 That's what they're whole giant preparations for.

03:01:12.000 God bless you, good points.

03:01:13.000 Gentlemen, quick comments on that.

03:01:15.000 Well, they definitely have to take it to the next level.

03:01:17.000 I mean, WTC 93 was a very small truck bomb.

03:01:22.000 Oklahoma City was larger.

03:01:23.000 9-11, of course, is what it is.

03:01:25.000 And they have to ratchet up the consequences and the effect, because it's not going to have the same psychological value if they just pull off another truck bomb that only kills 100 people.

03:01:33.000 That's not going to do anything.

03:01:34.000 They've already taken it to the level.

03:01:36.000 They've got to take it to the next level for the next attack.

03:01:38.000 And we look at the predictive programming that's coming out through the popular culture, and it's all biological, you know, martial laws required, some sort of nuke attack, again, martial laws required.

03:01:50.000 It's always the solution is to accept for, you know, government control, troops on the streets, and the conditioning for us to accept that.

03:01:59.000 And, you know, the emergency's so bad, we've got to arrest people that are saying the government did it, you know, because they're openly getting everybody ready for that.

03:02:06.000 Well if they nuke a city, if they dirty nuke a city or put a nuke in a city, you'll have people screaming blood demanding that Americans be rounded up under NDAA under mere suspicion and put in camps. 0.53

03:02:17.000 I mean a president who wouldn't enforce that would be chased out of office.

03:02:20.000 It would be a very scary time in this country.

03:02:23.000 And when that happens, it's time to spray paint everywhere the government did it. 0.98

03:02:27.000 That's a black cop. 1.00

03:02:28.000 We can run against their black cop. 1.00

03:02:29.000 And by black cop, that's something you do and don't talk about. 0.99

03:02:33.000 But the thing is, we've got to get it out now, right now, aggressively, that the terrorists run the country. 0.91

03:02:40.000 I'm risking my life to do this show for you, and it's just Mayday.

03:02:43.000 Get it out.

03:02:43.000 Mayday.

03:02:44.000 Get it out.

03:02:45.000 Mayday! 0.86

03:02:46.000 Trying to stop them from launching the next one, but if they do, hit them, hit them hard with the info. 0.95

03:02:51.000 They did it. 0.97

03:02:52.000 They stand to gain.

03:02:53.000 They did the last stuff.

03:02:54.000 They're the prime suspects.

03:02:56.000 Mayday!

03:02:59.000 You talked about, you know, the biological and stuff.

03:03:02.000 We actually looked into the Oklahoma State Department of Health, and through the administrative rules here, an unelected official can have you or your family or your children rounded up and forcibly vaccinated against your will.

03:03:17.000 You know, when we were looking into, I was in Camp FEMA, one of William Lewis's movies, and we actually take him to the Lucent building out here, and the health department said that is where they will take people in a mass quarantine situation.

03:03:29.000 It's incredible.

03:03:30.000 Mark in California, real quick, KLMY listener, go ahead.

03:03:34.000 Take them, Alex.

03:03:35.000 Let none of them escape.

03:03:37.000 I pray for you every day, my brother.

03:03:40.000 Now look, one way we can get this out is tell the cops about the Noble Lie and Infowars.com.

03:03:46.000 We can tell our neighbors, which I did, and by the way, if they're listening, hi.

03:03:50.000 And I also told about Who knows, 50 people, I preach the gospel at different colleges and sometimes before I start I make announcements such as you do on your fine radio show to tune in to KOMY1340 or InfoWars.com.

03:04:06.000 Another thing we can do is go to City Council meetings or run for City Council as I did here for District 9 and when you go to the City Council meeting you get a two minute shot at it, folks.

03:04:17.000 Take advantage of your free speech that you still have.

03:04:20.000 It goes on the net.

03:04:21.000 And I've been told that 7,000 watch it in San Jose.

03:04:25.000 I don't know how many in San Francisco.

03:04:27.000 Exactly.

03:04:27.000 Everybody hit every media venue you can get on.

03:04:31.000 Desperately.

03:04:32.000 Terrorists seize the country.

03:04:34.000 Gentlemen, great job.

03:04:34.000 The film available at Infowars.com.

03:04:36.000 Pray for us.

03:04:38.000 Pray for the survivors.

03:04:39.000 Pray for all the victims of 9-11.

03:04:41.000 Our troops with DU poisoning.

03:04:43.000 I mean, pure evil's taken over.

03:04:45.000 The bottomless pit is the limit.

03:04:48.000 A little over a year ago, I began to do a lot of research into why, even though I had a pretty good-sized meal, I was still starving.

Alex Jones Show - April 19, 2012

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