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00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:10.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:12.000 You want answers?

00:00:13.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:15.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:19.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:23.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

00:00:32.000 Bye.

00:00:33.000 Welcome!

00:00:34.000 This is Friday, May 11, 2012.

00:00:36.000 This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, filling in for Alex today, who's off working on projects, either that or recuperating to work on projects as soon as he gets back.

00:00:47.000 I hope he's actually taking a little bit of a break.

00:00:49.000 He certainly deserves one.

00:00:50.000 We've got an amazing lineup of breaking news, information, interviews.

00:00:55.000 This is going to be one of those shows That you do want to call people and invite them to listen in on because of the importance of the information that's breaking here.

00:01:03.000 Let me give you a quick rundown of what's coming up.

00:01:06.000 We are going to be covering the rapidly deteriorating Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant situation in Japan, where we have literally thousands of spent fuel rods that are now just accessing or releasing radiation into the open air.

00:01:24.000 And another criticality event, a meltdown, is possible.

00:01:30.000 An earthquake or a tsunami could unleash another massive plume of radiation that within 10 days would land in North America, spreading cesium-137, a very toxic, obviously, radioactive substance with a 30-year half-life.

00:01:47.000 All across North America.

00:01:49.000 And I've looked at the wind patterns, and no state in America is safe from that.

00:01:54.000 That would drop cesium-137 everywhere, from Alaska down to Miami, and everywhere in between.

00:02:02.000 And to join us today and talk about that, we do have Arne Gunderson.

00:02:07.000 He's going to be joining us at the bottom of this hour to cover his view.

00:02:13.000 He is, of course, an expert on the nuclear industry and he's going to tell us what his view is on the warnings and what might happen and what we can do to help stop this situation.

00:02:24.000 Remember, it's not just us raising the alarm about this.

00:02:27.000 Also, U.S.

00:02:27.000 Senator Ron Wyden from Oregon has raised the alarm on this issue.

00:02:33.000 And kudos to Senator Wyden for taking the step of actually going to visit the facility and then spreading the alarm.

00:02:39.000 So we're going to cover that.

00:02:40.000 Then we've also got, after that, in the second hour, Dr. Len Saputo is going to be joining us to talk about how we can protect ourselves from radiation.

00:02:50.000 So there are some things that we can do in terms of nutrition and detox and food selection.

00:02:55.000 Lots of important things that we can do and he's the expert on that.

00:03:00.000 In fact, he's a holistic doctor.

00:03:02.000 He's into healing.

00:03:03.000 He's into all kinds of nutritional strategies.

00:03:06.000 Many of of those strategies are now being used by people here at the InfoWars team, InfoWars studio, to improve their health and prevent any kind of degenerative disease from taking hold.

00:03:18.000 So Dr. Len Saputo joins us.

00:03:20.000 That's going to be an amazing report.

00:03:21.000 And then also in the third hour, we have breaking news on the situation in Minnesota, where a farmer is about to be sentenced and have his three-day trial on Monday.

00:03:33.000 And his crime was delivering fresh milk.

00:03:37.000 Once again, fresh milk to moms in Minnesota, and those moms are now being threatened by the state of Minnesota with criminal prosecution if they allow their homes to be used as drop-off points for fresh milk from a farm.

00:03:53.000 Yes, indeed.

00:03:53.000 What California did to James Stewart and Sharon Palmer, the state of Minnesota is now doing to moms and farmers.

00:04:00.000 And that is a very big breaking story.

00:04:03.000 We've got all the details here.

00:04:04.000 We're going to be covering the upcoming rally, asking you to join that rally on Monday if you are in Minnesota, and bringing you an interview with one of the moms who has been threatened by the state of Minnesota.

00:04:16.000 This kind of craziness is now catching on all across the country, sadly.

00:04:21.000 And it turns out the FDA is behind it all.

00:04:23.000 The Feds, the Food and Drug Administration, is giving money to the State Departments of Agriculture in order to create these special prosecutorial task forces that go after farmers and moms with the threat of guns drawn.

00:04:38.000 Sometimes they do draw their guns.

00:04:39.000 Sometimes they go in with armed raids at these food facilities.

00:04:43.000 That's happening in America today.

00:04:45.000 We're going to be covering all that and much more including Alex Jones will be joining us in the second hour right here on the Alex Jones Show.

00:04:51.000 Stay with us all that straight ahead and much more.

00:04:55.000 We'll be right back.

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00:08:01.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:08:10.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:13.000 It is Friday, May 11, 2012.

00:08:22.000 This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, the editor of NaturalNews.com, filling in for Alex Jones today from occupied America, FEMA Region 6 here, behind enemy lines, as they say, in Austin, Texas, bringing you today's breaking news, which is, as usual, extraordinary, absolutely extraordinary.

00:08:43.000 Geraldo Rivera has just announced, well, yesterday he talked about the TSA.

00:08:50.000 He was covering the story of how the TSA considered an 18-month-old toddler to be a terrorist, and they forced the toddler and the family off of the airplane and detained them for quite some time and humiliated them in the airports.

00:09:07.000 This was, again, as part of the MO of the TSA, which has nothing to do with security and everything to do with enforcing a police state mentality.

00:09:17.000 So, in talking about that, Rivera appeared on Fox & Friends yesterday and he said, That he was raped by the TSA. 0.51

00:09:25.000 His words. 0.91

00:09:27.000 Quote, the last time I flew to Afghanistan, I got manually raped by a guy who the scanner wasn't working.

00:09:34.000 These were his own words. 0.96

00:09:35.000 He then said that his, quote, junk was junked by a TSA screener.

00:09:40.000 I apologize for the graphic nature of this language, but this is Geraldo's language himself.

00:09:46.000 I'm not paraphrasing, I'm quoting him exactly.

00:09:49.000 Quote, this guy, it seemed, was getting off on it.

00:09:53.000 And the more, and the tighter I got, and the angrier I got, you know, he just wanted to be a little more intimate.

00:10:00.000 Of course he did.

00:10:01.000 Oh my.

00:10:04.000 And I was so frustrated, Geraldo continues, I called the TSA, and I called, and I called, I went on television, I exposed them, I embarrassed them, I said, can't ya, and they just could not remove my name from the computer that had the no-fly, the no-fly list.

00:10:16.000 Yeah, see, This is why I don't fly.

00:10:20.000 See, the TSA punishes anyone who dares to speak out about them.

00:10:25.000 This is exactly what Geraldo just experienced.

00:10:28.000 They put him on the no-fly list, which of course is a secret, completely unconstitutional list.

00:10:33.000 You don't know how you got on the list.

00:10:35.000 You don't know how to get your name removed from the list.

00:10:37.000 There's no procedure for it.

00:10:38.000 It's a giant secret government black box.

00:10:42.000 Which is what, that's how the entire government works now in America.

00:10:45.000 Welcome to the new occupied America, the banker occupied America.

00:10:51.000 And so, in exposing all of this, Rivera has been punished by them.

00:10:56.000 Isn't there a congressman in Texas that's also gone on the record and said that every time he flies, they squeeze his genitals, they actually punish him by squeezing him a little extra? 0.96

00:11:07.000 This is why I don't fly, because I put out the TSA, the Don't Touch My Junk music video song, and also, of course, the TSA Help Wanted animation parody video that makes fun of the TSA and exposes them as being the total perverts and thugs that they truly are.

00:11:24.000 So I don't fly because I know they're going to drop a bag of cocaine in my luggage and then arrest me for drugs that I've never even used.

00:11:32.000 So I'm sure the TSA is just waiting to find me in the airport, so I'm not going to give him that opportunity.

00:11:38.000 So I'm supporting Senator Rand Paul's effort to, of course, eliminate and shut down the TSA.

00:11:44.000 In fact, another U.S. 0.52

00:11:44.000 congressman, I don't recall his name at the moment, just in the last few days called for the resignation of Pistoli, the head of the TSA, who, of course, not only needs to be Not only does he need to resign, I think he needs to be arrested. 0.52

00:11:58.000 That's my opinion.

00:11:59.000 I think he needs to be investigated and arrested.

00:12:01.000 But that's just the beginning of the crazy breaking news.

00:12:04.000 I'm going to talk to you about the Pentagon's new technology, which is trying to build a neuro-linguistic programming engine so that they can contrive the right story that the public will buy.

00:12:17.000 That's the Pentagon's new weapon.

00:12:19.000 It's a neuro-linguistic weapon that's been reported by the BBC.

00:12:23.000 I'll talk about that in a minute.

00:12:24.000 But first, let's get to some other, a little more mild news.

00:12:28.000 Here's some stuff.

00:12:29.000 For everybody who owns a car, Changing the oil on your car every 3,000 miles may not be necessary.

00:12:35.000 In fact, I'm calling that idea a scam because it's really not necessary for most cars.

00:12:42.000 In fact, Toyota and other manufacturers, many of their cars can go 7,500, 10,000 or even 15,000 miles without needing an oil change.

00:12:51.000 Oh, here it is.

00:12:52.000 So there's a website out there where you can check and see how often you actually need to change the oil on your car.

00:12:58.000 And, uh, oh man, I'm gonna get that website for you after the break.

00:13:02.000 Uh, it's... I'm sorry, I don't have that for you right now.

00:13:04.000 I'll get that website for you, but...

00:13:08.000 Let me go to the next news item.

00:13:10.000 We'll come back to that.

00:13:11.000 Washington State declares whooping cough an epidemic after just a few hundred people have symptoms of the whooping cough and almost no deaths from it.

00:13:21.000 But here's the deal.

00:13:22.000 They always declare these epidemics and then they use it to push vaccines in the state.

00:13:26.000 But what they don't tell you is that the outbreaks of whooping cough are higher among children who have been vaccinated against whooping cough.

00:13:36.000 This is on daily news.

00:13:38.000 For those of you watching on PrisonPlanet.TV, whooping cough epidemic hits Washington State.

00:13:43.000 Boy, these states, these vaccine pushers, they love to declare epidemics.

00:13:47.000 So does the CDC, but they never tell you the truth.

00:13:50.000 Well, we've published on Natural News the truth about how the outbreaks are higher among children who are vaccinated.

00:13:55.000 In other words, If you get the whooping cough vaccine, your risk of contracting the whooping cough goes up.

00:14:03.000 It goes up!

00:14:04.000 So, not getting vaccinated is the best protection against the whooping cough.

00:14:08.000 Actually, vitamin D is a much better protection.

00:14:11.000 Also, whooping cough vaccines have been linked to seizures.

00:14:15.000 And we've got that story also posted on Natural News as well.

00:14:20.000 And InfoWars, of course, covers all of this.

00:14:23.000 In fact, the polio Vaccines in India that are causing paralysis.

00:14:26.000 Aaron Dykstra did an excellent story on that.

00:14:28.000 Kurt Nimmo, Paul Watson are all over that story.

00:14:30.000 Check this out.

00:14:31.000 Here's some... Actually, let me go to this sheet right here.

00:14:35.000 And for those of you watching on PrisonPlanet.tv, I've got a new prop in the studio today.

00:14:39.000 We've got the Liberty Eagle, Liberty flag right here.

00:14:43.000 I want to get a big, don't tread on me, kind of flag situation. 0.90

00:14:48.000 I'm going to start bringing props in the studio every time I'm here.

00:14:51.000 I want to put a copy of the Constitution on the wall.

00:14:54.000 Behind me here, or at least the Bill of Rights.

00:14:56.000 There it is.

00:14:56.000 Look at that.

00:14:57.000 Isn't that beautiful?

00:14:58.000 Liberty right there.

00:14:59.000 I know, for those of you on the radio, you're going, what?

00:15:02.000 You can watch on presentplanet.tv.

00:15:06.000 But here it is, the combination tetanus and whooping cough vaccine linked to seizures in babies.

00:15:12.000 And this was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

00:15:15.000 So even the conventional medical system openly admits that these vaccines cause seizures.

00:15:23.000 And then here's the story about how whooping cough outbreaks are higher among children who have been vaccinated.

00:15:30.000 It actually causes the disease.

00:15:33.000 And then here's Washington State declaring an actual epidemic and they're seeking the CDC help.

00:15:39.000 Oh yes, the CDC, Centers for Disease Control, should be called the Centers for Disease Contradiction because they actually promote more disease than they ever prevent.

00:15:53.000 Oh yeah, the CDC loves to push new diseases out there with those weaponized vaccines. 0.95

00:15:58.000 Check this out, military training in the middle of Miami jolts residents out of bed.

00:16:02.000 The Grand Bay Hotel was attacked.

00:16:06.000 Wait, never mind.

00:16:07.000 This is in the miamiherald.com.

00:16:10.000 It was just a military training exercise.

00:16:12.000 So if you woke up, this was just a few days ago, in fact, if you woke up on Tuesday, May 8th, And you saw a bunch of black helicopters and military troops jumping out of them and raiding this hotel and firing off a bunch of blank rounds.

00:16:27.000 Obviously, they weren't live ammunition, but they sounded like it to the residents of the city.

00:16:32.000 Oh, guess what?

00:16:33.000 It's just another military exercise to get everybody used to the idea that the US military is going to be on the streets.

00:16:43.000 On the streets, as usual, just to get you used to it.

00:16:47.000 So that when DHS brings in the bulletproof pillboxes and the roadside checkpoints and what, the 450 million rounds of .40 caliber hollow point ammo, not to mention all the .223 rounds or .556 rounds or whatever else they're buying, that all the Americans are just going to sit back and say, oh yeah, they've been doing that for the last couple of years.

00:17:07.000 That's normal.

00:17:08.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

00:17:09.000 We see military people raiding hotels and shooting up city streets all the time.

00:17:13.000 It must be okay.

00:17:15.000 Must be another training exercise, they're going to say.

00:17:17.000 And on the subject of mind control, check this out.

00:17:23.000 This is in the BBC.

00:17:25.000 Search for this title, guys.

00:17:27.000 Building the Pentagon's Like Me Weapon.

00:17:31.000 Building the Pentagon's Like Me Weapon.

00:17:33.000 I'm going to read you right from this article.

00:17:35.000 This is a fascinating story.

00:17:38.000 I don't think it's really been covered that much in the alternative media.

00:17:40.000 The military is creating a device, and this is quoting from the story, that could advise them what to say, generating a story based on a scientific understanding of the brain's inner workings to soothe tempers and calm the mood of the population.

00:17:58.000 It sounds like something from a science fiction blockbuster, the BBC reports, but is in fact the premise behind the Pentagon's growing interest in the neurobiology of political violence, a relatively new field that combines neuroscience with more traditional social science-based approaches to understanding human behavior.

00:18:18.000 Do you understand what this is really saying?

00:18:19.000 This is a neuro-linguistic social engineering brain hack.

00:18:23.000 This is propaganda at the level of the neural processors in your brain.

00:18:29.000 This is a way to create a story, to have a computer actually spit out a story that they know the people will believe.

00:18:36.000 Like, oh, we killed Bin Laden and threw his body in the ocean because that's what they do in that religion. 1.00

00:18:41.000 Total nonsense, complete fiction, but people bought it.

00:18:47.000 I mean, why do they need computers to come up with this stuff?

00:18:49.000 It seems like whoever's running things at the globalist agenda level, they're already coming up with stories that people will buy.

00:18:55.000 And besides, it seems like there's no skepticism out there anyway anymore.

00:19:00.000 People will buy almost anything.

00:19:01.000 Have you noticed that?

00:19:04.000 They'll buy almost anything?

00:19:05.000 They could make up a crazy story.

00:19:08.000 Bin Laden was using his wife as a shield, and then he launched little miniature pumpkin grenades like the Green Goblin from Spider-Man.

00:19:18.000 And so we had to shoot him, and we dunked his head three times in the water, and bubbles still came up.

00:19:24.000 So then we put his feet in lead bricks and let him sink to the bottom of the ocean. 0.81

00:19:30.000 Where he started glowing!

00:19:32.000 So we had to launch a nuclear weapon!

00:19:34.000 This is the kind of stuff they come up with and people actually will believe it as long as it's pushed out there by CNN and NPR and all these mainstream media websites.

00:19:44.000 Doesn't matter if it's fiction.

00:19:45.000 People buy it anyway.

00:19:47.000 It's all theater.

00:19:48.000 Security theater for your benefit.

00:19:50.000 Alright, a lot more straight ahead here on the Alex Jones Show.

00:19:53.000 Lots of news on Fukushima.

00:19:55.000 We're joined by Arne Gunnarsson.

00:19:56.000 and stay right with us.

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00:25:00.000 It started with just two officers.

00:25:02.000 We're showing a little bit of the footage.

00:25:04.000 Keep showing as much as you can there, guys.

00:25:06.000 This is the first time I'm seeing this particular footage.

00:25:09.000 We can't show it all because it's just too graphic.

00:25:11.000 It's too heart-wrenching.

00:25:13.000 It is an absolute anti-humanitarian abuse of a human being by police officers who have lost it.

00:25:23.000 And again, the man's name is Kelly Thomas.

00:25:26.000 Go ahead and search PrisonPlanet.com for stories about Kelly Thomas.

00:25:31.000 Search YouTube.

00:25:31.000 Look for the video yourself if you want to see it.

00:25:35.000 What happened is this started with two officers, one of them tasering the man.

00:25:40.000 And then the taser, after the taser was fired at him, disabling him, he was struck with the taser weapon itself as a blunt object.

00:25:51.000 And then he was essentially gang beat by a gang of other police officers who are supposed to be law enforcement officers.

00:26:05.000 I'm sorry, I'm a little bit...

00:26:08.000 This video is absolutely horrific, and I'm looking at a picture of the man.

00:26:11.000 You can hardly recognize that it's a face at all.

00:26:13.000 It is a mass of blood and bone and sinew and skin, and this man was beat to death by these police officers in California.

00:26:24.000 And those officers are now facing prosecution, and I want to be clear that not all police officers are bad.

00:26:34.000 That most members of law enforcement, especially those in the sheriffs and deputies departments, are very honest, honorable individuals.

00:26:42.000 Many of them are patriots.

00:26:44.000 Many of them are going to do the right thing when the time comes.

00:26:47.000 They will make the right decision to protect liberty and to protect the innocent in America.

00:26:51.000 And yet, across America today, we do have rogue gang units of police departments.

00:27:00.000 That this is true in every major city.

00:27:02.000 It's true in Miami.

00:27:03.000 It's true in Chicago.

00:27:04.000 It's true in L.A.

00:27:06.000 obviously.

00:27:06.000 It's true in San Diego.

00:27:09.000 It is...

00:27:13.000 This is an epidemic of police violence against individuals.

00:27:16.000 And you know where it comes from?

00:27:17.000 You know what makes this possible?

00:27:21.000 It is that the federal government is setting the example of brutality and sexual molestation of the people. 0.97

00:27:27.000 So when the TSA reaches down your pants and squeezes your genitals and punishes people like Geraldo Rivera just went public and said he was raped by the TSA. 0.55

00:27:37.000 When that is allowed in America, and when the people don't stand up against it and say enough is enough, and we're not going to be raped, we're not going to be treated to this kind of violence by the government, then the local police departments, they start getting the idea, well, hey, we can do it too! 0.99

00:27:52.000 We can rape people. 0.95

00:27:54.000 We can commit violence against people. 1.00

00:27:56.000 We can just beat whoever we want, beat them to death, and that's exactly what they did.

00:28:00.000 Information from the court case, this is from the OCRegister.com Right out of Orange County, it was a 33-minute surveillance video of the confrontation that has surfaced.

00:28:11.000 And of course, without that surveillance video, none of these cops ever probably would have faced any prosecution.

00:28:15.000 Because they could just beat people to death in dark alleys where no one's looking, and they get away with it routinely.

00:28:20.000 And these cops obviously need to go to jail, and it looks like they're going to, if this case moves forward as expected.

00:28:27.000 Let me read you some other details from the case here, because it's heart-wrenching, and it is a big warning.

00:28:35.000 One officer, Cicinelli, stunned Thomas with a taser and then hit him in the face with a plastic gun.

00:28:46.000 He's charged with involuntary manslaughter and excessive force under the color of authority.

00:28:51.000 Free on $25,000 bail.

00:28:53.000 Now remember this, in California they gave James Stewart a million dollars bail for distributing raw milk.

00:28:58.000 So if you beat a man to death, your bail is only $25,000.

00:29:04.000 But if you distribute real food, oh my god, fresh raw milk, you get a million dollars bail.

00:29:11.000 That's justice in California.

00:29:14.000 And this officer is facing four years in prison.

00:29:16.000 James Stewart's facing 40 years in prison for distributing raw milk.

00:29:22.000 This videotape, shown in public for the first time, showed an escalating situation that abruptly became violent when one of the officers says, he puts on rubber gloves and says, now you see my fist?

00:29:32.000 They're getting ready to F you up.

00:29:34.000 If you don't start F-listening, he says, those are the words of the officer in the surveillance tape.

00:29:39.000 That's what it has come to in America today.

00:29:40.000 That's what happened to Kelly Thomas. 0.98

00:29:42.000 A lot more straight ahead on Fukushima and Arne Gunderson.

00:29:45.000 Stay with us.

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00:33:11.000 The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has become yet a renewed concern for the fate of life on our planet, especially in the northern hemisphere, which is, of course, strongly affected by the wind patterns of whatever radiation might be released from Fukushima.

00:33:35.000 In fact, some are claiming that a very large amount of radiation has already been released, and by claiming I say that with a bit of satire, because of course it's happened!

00:33:45.000 Multiple meltdowns already happened!

00:33:47.000 And that cover-up is being called Plumegate.

00:33:52.000 So just search that term if you want to learn more.

00:33:54.000 Plumegate.

00:33:55.000 And now Senator Ron Wyden, who actually is a pretty decent guy.

00:34:00.000 I used to live in Oregon in his district when he was a congressman.

00:34:04.000 I don't agree with all his politics, obviously, but pretty decent guy.

00:34:08.000 You know, really within the system, he tries to help people more than most, I would say.

00:34:13.000 And he went out and visited the Fukushima facility to have a look for himself.

00:34:18.000 And when he came back, he issued an urgent warning.

00:34:21.000 He put it right on his own website, the government website, Senate website.

00:34:25.000 And he said that it is a precarious situation.

00:34:30.000 And he said that the entire facility is only protected from a second tsunami by something that he called the bags of rocks placed there.

00:34:39.000 A makeshift wall, he said, made by bags of rocks placed there by hand.

00:34:44.000 That's not going to survive a tsunami.

00:34:46.000 That's not going to stop A giant tidal wave coming in.

00:34:50.000 Not even a chance.

00:34:51.000 Now at the same time, a former Japan ambassador has gone on the record and made a statement saying that, quote, the fate of the world depends on reactor number four.

00:35:01.000 Those are his words.

00:35:03.000 So there's been a lot of increasing concern about the spent fuel rods that are in the pools that now have open access to the environment, and what might happen if there is a subsequent earthquake or a tsunami, which could happen theoretically at any time.

00:35:17.000 It's largely unpredictable.

00:35:20.000 What will happen?

00:35:21.000 And to help answer that question is Arnie Gunderson joining us today by Skype video, an amazing expert.

00:35:27.000 He's been one of the most courageous scientific voices speaking out about the reality of what's happening in Fukushima, even as others try to cover up and downplay.

00:35:36.000 Arnie Gunderson has been actually reporting the truth from his website, fairwinds.com.

00:35:41.000 That's f-a-i-r-e, winds.com.

00:35:45.000 Did I get that right?

00:35:45.000 Is that the right website?

00:35:47.000 You got it.

00:35:48.000 Yeah, okay, alright.

00:35:48.000 Arnie, thank you for joining us today.

00:35:50.000 It's a pleasure to have you on the Alex Jones Show.

00:35:52.000 Hi, thanks for having me.

00:35:52.000 How are you doing today?

00:35:54.000 I'm great.

00:35:55.000 Well, it's an honor to have you on.

00:35:58.000 You are one of the most widely known voices out there in the truth movement, and also among the scientific followers of what's happening in Fukushima.

00:36:08.000 Can you begin by telling us what is your understanding of the status, the current status, of the situation in Fukushima, and in particular, reactor number four and its spent fuel rod pool?

00:36:20.000 I think you hit the nail on the head at the beginning of the hour here.

00:36:23.000 The Unit 4 has always been, since the very first week or two of the accident, in my mind, the biggest concern.

00:36:33.000 And the term I used a year ago was that if The Unit 4 fuel pool goals will have Chernobyl on steroids, and I still believe that today.

00:36:43.000 The problem with that pool is that there's an entire nuclear core's worth of hot fuel, and by that I mean physically hot, because it just ran, and four or five more years of spent fuel.

00:36:59.000 The combination means that if it were to go dry, That it would burn and liberate an enormous amount of radiation.

00:37:08.000 Brookhaven National Lab said that a fuel pool fire like could be experienced at Fukushima Daiichi-4 would kill 186,000 people from cancer.

00:37:21.000 Now is that, is that just a fire situation?

00:37:23.000 If the, let's say the pool, the containment concrete cracks, the water drains out or another earthquake happens, it all collapses, is it a fire that releases that?

00:37:32.000 Or is there the possibility of it achieving again criticality or a meltdown scenario?

00:37:37.000 No, it can't.

00:37:39.000 Low-enriched fuel, like in a power reactor, has to have water around it to have a fission, for a chain reaction to occur.

00:37:47.000 Now, what would happen if, you know, what I'm postulating is if there's a 775 earthquake and the pool cracks, or the building topples, but let's say the pool cracks, the pool runs dry, the zircaloid clad would become hot enough to burn in air. 1.00

00:38:07.000 And it's called a pyrophoric reaction.

00:38:12.000 Once it starts, you can't put it out by throwing water on it because it takes the oxygen out of the water and just gets hotter.

00:38:19.000 So this would be like a massive dirty bomb essentially being set off and it would just burn and release into the atmosphere and then the wind takes it from there?

00:38:26.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:38:27.000 Yeah, that's a great analogy.

00:38:29.000 So, if, let me ask you this, if a terrorist group had this much nuclear material in their hands, how do you think America's response would be different?

00:38:39.000 Because I find it interesting that this is essentially a dirty bomb, a ticking time dirty bomb, and America's doing essentially nothing, but if a terrorist had this much material, how bad would that be, Arnie?

00:38:51.000 You know, we've been saying that here in the States and, you know, I'm on record as saying that this type of reactor, this Mark 1 reactor, you know, this fuel pole is up in the air about a hundred feet high and it's a terrorist target.

00:39:04.000 And this isn't since Fukushima.

00:39:07.000 I've been saying this for 10 years.

00:39:09.000 The problem is if a terrorist were to Broach the side of the fuel pool with some kind of a guided weapon, not a rifle.

00:39:21.000 Like an RPG or something like that?

00:39:22.000 Yeah.

00:39:24.000 That you would drain the pool here in the States.

00:39:28.000 And it would create the same scenario.

00:39:31.000 So this isn't something that the NRC and the nuclear community hasn't heard.

00:39:36.000 They've just ignored it.

00:39:38.000 What's the deal with the other pool of stored fuel rods that's located reportedly about 50 meters away from this reactor number four pool?

00:39:46.000 What's the interaction between those two pools?

00:39:51.000 The Japanese, unlike the Americans, have kept all their nuclear fuel in the fuel pool.

00:39:56.000 So you've got a plant like Pilgrim, with 37 years worth, whereas Fukushima only has 7 or 8.

00:40:02.000 The Japanese took the fuel down out of these precarious pools when they got to 5, 6, 7 years, and put them in a common pool. 0.81

00:40:11.000 So they have an enormous common pool, but it's at grade level.

00:40:15.000 So, from a seismic standpoint, it's much more rigid.

00:40:19.000 The Fukushima 4 pool is way up in the air, so it's like an upside-down pendulum in the event of an accident.

00:40:27.000 In addition to Unit 4, and I'm clearly on record as saying both of these, Unit 3 is not much better.

00:40:34.000 So there's actually two fuel pools that could cause, you know, certainly the evacuation of Tokyo would be plausible if that pool were to catch fire.

00:40:47.000 What about the evacuation of California?

00:40:50.000 How much of a concern would it be if the fuel rods in Pool 4 caught on fire and that radiation was released and all the isotopes, the iodine-131, the cesium-137, I think is a bigger concern.

00:41:05.000 In your estimation, what is the range of possibilities of impacts on states like California, Oregon, Alaska, Washington, especially West Coast USA?

00:41:15.000 Yeah, well first off, you're not going to find any iodine because that only has an eight-day half-life, so it's been gone for years.

00:41:22.000 But the amount of cesium in those pools is roughly comparable to what's gone up in nuclear weapons testing, above-ground nuclear weapons testing, for the, you know, for 30 years.

00:41:35.000 I'm telling my friends that on the West Coast, you gotta watch it like a hawk.

00:41:39.000 Every day, go up and make sure Unifor is standing.

00:41:42.000 And if it's not, we'll watch the plume, but have a plan B to move somewhere.

00:41:51.000 Well, that's great advice, Arnie, and I want to encourage viewers and listeners to visit your website, fairwinds.com.

00:41:57.000 Again, that's spelled F-A-I-R-E, almost fair-ee, fair-ee winds dot com might be the phonetic way to say it.

00:42:08.000 The problem with what you just said, Arshad, the challenge is that the mainstream media has already demonstrated it's going to lie about this.

00:42:16.000 So if the average person out there in California, let's say, says, well I'm going to watch CNN and I'm going to wait for CNN to tell me whether or not there's been a big release of radiation from Fukushima, isn't it possible that CNN may just never cover it?

00:42:31.000 Or they may downplay it, or the US government may come up with some kind of weird cover story.

00:42:37.000 Hasn't the truth already been manipulated so much that we can't really trust the media to tell us the future of what's going on there?

00:42:44.000 Well, I don't trust the mainstream media.

00:42:47.000 Actually, CNN had me on 20 times, so probably they've done better than most of the others.

00:42:53.000 Oh, I wasn't aware of that.

00:42:54.000 That's actually to their credit to have you on then.

00:42:57.000 Well, thank you.

00:42:58.000 But you're absolutely right.

00:42:59.000 The mainstream media has underplayed the Fukushima disaster since it began.

00:43:07.000 And it's through alternative shows like yours, it's through alternative sites like mine, that people are getting the knowledge that experts have.

00:43:17.000 All the things I've been saying for the last year are turning up in The FOIA requests from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, they were thinking it, they just weren't telling the public.

00:43:27.000 Right, you nailed it.

00:43:28.000 The FOIA requests have revealed a lot of interesting information.

00:43:31.000 Wasn't one of the documents from the NRC showing that by their calculations, they had already estimated that 18,000 infant deaths had occurred in the USA due to the radiation?

00:43:44.000 Am I getting that right?

00:43:45.000 I don't remember seeing that one, but there were so many that were terrifying.

00:43:49.000 They had data from the roof of the embassy in Tokyo in the first week that was terrifying, and yet they never made that information public.

00:44:01.000 A businessman in Tokyo who was staying on the same block as the U.S.

00:44:05.000 Embassy take a sample from the roof of his hotel and it was hotter than a pistol.

00:44:10.000 And this was six months after the accident.

00:44:13.000 So we have known that Tokyo was jeopardized at the beginning of this accident since it was happening and really didn't do much to warn the citizens.

00:44:25.000 Wow, for those watching PrisonPlanet.tv, they just showed the footage of one of the explosions of one of the reactors.

00:44:31.000 Was that reactor number two that was being shown?

00:44:34.000 I don't know.

00:44:35.000 But it looks like a massive explosion.

00:44:39.000 There's been conjecture that perhaps it was a nuclear explosion.

00:44:42.000 I'm not sure.

00:44:45.000 What are your thoughts on that, Arnie?

00:44:46.000 Yeah, it was a prompt, moderated criticality.

00:44:53.000 Okay, you're going to have to break that down for us all.

00:44:57.000 Well, a bomb is to prompt fast criticality.

00:45:02.000 A nuclear reactor is usually never prompt.

00:45:06.000 Yeah, unfortunately.

00:45:07.000 This could take an hour, but I'll try to knock it out in 30 seconds.

00:45:14.000 Imagine all the power that would power the city of Tokyo for ten years being released in two seconds is kind of what you're getting at.

00:45:19.000 Well, that's what a bomb is, right?

00:45:22.000 If your listeners want to go up and watch this, you can see that we tested this 40 years ago in an experiment called Borax.

00:45:31.000 B-O-R-A-X, just like the 20 mules. 1.00

00:45:35.000 The borax experiments look almost exactly like the explosion at Fukushima Unit 3.

00:45:41.000 And those were prompt, moderated criticalities.

00:45:46.000 Okay, so it's not the same as a detonation of a nuclear warhead, obviously, but it's certainly a much faster release than was planned by the engineers who built the facility.

00:45:56.000 Now, one of the things I really respect about you, Arnie, is that you visited Japan, you took some soil samples, and I believe on your website, fairwinds.com, you even mentioned that in the United States, those soil samples, they are so contaminated with radiation that they would be considered, what was the term you used?

00:46:11.000 Oh, they'd be considered radioactive waste, and they'd have to be, you know, stored in a controlled facility, yeah.

00:46:18.000 So that soil, how far out from Fukushima did you sample that soil?

00:46:22.000 Well, you know, that's the point I was trying to make in the video.

00:46:25.000 Tokyo is, depending on where you are, 150 miles away from the accident.

00:46:32.000 And yet, I mean, these people were gardening in soil that was, in the States, would be considered radioactive waste.

00:46:40.000 I shot the video when I was at a meeting in Washington D.C.

00:46:45.000 and my point was Tokyo is the capital of Japan and within a hundred miles of Washington are a dozen nuclear reactors.

00:46:55.000 How would we feel if our capital was so contaminated?

00:47:00.000 That it should be considered nuclear waste.

00:47:02.000 I think the public reaction would be dramatic.

00:47:05.000 You know, we've got to shut these things down.

00:47:07.000 Whereas, because it's happened in the other guy's country, mainstream media has totally ignored it.

00:47:13.000 But you hit on something really crucial right there.

00:47:15.000 You said that the soils are so contaminated, and that was with cesium-137, correct?

00:47:22.000 Cesium-137 and 134.

00:47:24.000 That's how you know it came from Fukushima.

00:47:26.000 If it was just Cesium-137, it could be bomb, it could be Chernobyl, but when you see 134 and 137 together, that's the signature from Fukushima.

00:47:37.000 That's because every fuel source in the nuclear industry has a particular elemental signature or fingerprint, you might say, that can identify its source.

00:47:48.000 What's crucial about what you just said also is that if the soils are contaminated, cesium is very close to the mineral action of potassium in plants.

00:47:59.000 So I believe that when plants are grown, when food crops are grown in soil contaminated by cesium, To the extent that those plants would normally uptake potassium, which is a common mineral in many, many crops, including potatoes, for example, they would uptake that cesium, which would go into the food, so that the people who grew their food on that land would then be eating radioactive food.

00:48:19.000 Yeah.

00:48:20.000 Cesium is exactly chemically alike potassium.

00:48:23.000 If you remember your high school chemistry, they're right above each other in the periodic chart.

00:48:29.000 So they're both muscle seekers.

00:48:31.000 And what we find with cesium poisoning is that, especially in kids that are growing, illnesses like something called Chernobyl heart, where the cesium builds up in a muscle that's rapidly growing, like an infant or a fetus's heart, and causes heart damage or heart holes that, while the infant may live for the rest of their life after surgery, their life expectancy is shortened and the quality of life is minimal.

00:49:01.000 So cesium is a muscle seeker.

00:49:03.000 It also produces cancers, obviously, because it's radioactive.

00:49:07.000 But in addition, it can do damage to muscles, especially in kids that are rapidly growing.

00:49:13.000 So this, yeah, this is an indiscriminate, obviously it can be used as a weapon by terrorists or even false flag attacks, which is another concern of many of the listeners here on the Alex Jones Show.

00:49:24.000 We had a report from Mike Bundrant, who's one of our contributing writers over at Natural News.

00:49:30.000 He was in Tokyo recently.

00:49:32.000 And he discovered that many families are eating this contaminated food because their parents or their other family members are living in a state of denial.

00:49:40.000 They've been told by the Japanese government that this is safe, so they're planting food on this contaminated soil, they're eating this radioactive food, and they are doing so knowing it's radioactive, but they're...

00:49:52.000 They can't go against their other family members because of the very powerful, you know, parental family structure often that you find in Japanese families.

00:50:01.000 And these middle-aged Japanese citizens, they're going to die of cancer from it. 0.99

00:50:07.000 You know, you're absolutely right.

00:50:08.000 It's a cultural problem there, and the government is playing on the cultural problem.

00:50:13.000 There's a ray of hope here because the women of Japan aren't buying it. 1.00

00:50:18.000 The men seem to be saying, well, my government told me it's safe, therefore it's safe.

00:50:23.000 Whereas the women, especially the young child-bearing age women, are just saying, you know, hell no, we won't glow, I guess is the old term.

00:50:33.000 That's a good one.

00:50:34.000 But the women in Japan are a significant majority in all of these marches that you see, which is unheard of for Japan.

00:50:43.000 I mean, the women... Arnie, sorry to interrupt you.

00:50:46.000 We've got to go to a break, but stay with us.

00:50:47.000 I want to ask you on the other side of this break about the 85 times Chernobyl radiation figure that's been floating around.

00:50:53.000 That and much more straight ahead here on the Alex Jones Show.

00:50:55.000 We'll be right back after this break.

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00:54:00.000 Fukushima threatens the continuation of life as we know it in the Northern Hemisphere.

00:54:22.000 It doesn't mean it's going to kill us all, but it does mean it could threaten the healthy continuation of life as we know it.

00:54:30.000 It could threaten crops.

00:54:32.000 It could threaten literally millions of acres of farming land across North America if a worst-case scenario happens.

00:54:39.000 And sadly, the worst-case scenario could be unleashed in many ways from another earthquake, another tsunami that hits the Fukushima facility.

00:54:49.000 This is an issue that affects North America, it affects Europe, it affects Russia, it affects China.

00:54:55.000 It's not just Japan that's affected by this, and that's why we're featuring this information here.

00:55:00.000 We've got Arnie Gunderson joining us from Fairwinds and he is...

00:55:04.000 One of the top nuclear experts and very outspoken, but also very considered in his information.

00:55:11.000 That's what I really respect about Arnie, that he is methodical in his research and he's very considered in his statements about Fukushima.

00:55:19.000 Before we bring him back in, very quickly, in the next hour we're going to be joined by Dr. Len Saputo to talk to us about some solutions for protecting our bodies from radiation in case that worst-case scenario happens.

00:55:32.000 And then also we've got Alex Jones calling in.

00:55:34.000 At the, um, well, what about half an hour from now?

00:55:37.000 Alex is going to call in and give us some comments on current events as well.

00:55:40.000 Now, back to Arne Gunderson from fairwinds.com.

00:55:44.000 Arne, before the break I asked you about this figure that's been floating around this 85 times, I guess there's been a calculation of the total amount of unspent fuel or partially spent fuel in the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facility.

00:55:58.000 And that was calculated to be roughly 85 times the amount of energy released in the Chernobyl accident in I believe 1986.

00:56:07.000 Is that figure accurate or does it need to be fact-checked?

00:56:13.000 Yeah, I'm not sure where they got that.

00:56:15.000 I believe Fukushima is worse than Chernobyl, and I think I can prove that.

00:56:21.000 I think that that number may also include the possibility of the meltdown of the fuel in the fuel pools, which hasn't occurred yet.

00:56:30.000 So if you look at the three reactors that melted down, Clearly, they released more noble gases, things like xenon and krypton, at least triple what Chernobyl released.

00:56:44.000 And they actually picked that up in Seattle.

00:56:48.000 This is separate from the hot particles in Seattle, but there was xenon and krypton picked up to the tune of 100,000 times normal in Seattle in March and April after the accident, published peer-reviewed stuff.

00:57:02.000 But so that's one kind of isotope, and that doesn't react with anything.

00:57:06.000 It pops right out of the fuel.

00:57:08.000 But the cesium and the iodine and things like that are probably roughly on the order, maybe twice as much as Fukushima.

00:57:19.000 You know, this is such a horrific accident, but it's hard to believe the Japanese were lucky. 1.00

00:57:24.000 But there's two things they were lucky about.

00:57:27.000 One is that 80% of the time the wind blew out to sea.

00:57:31.000 So most of this, 78% of this radiation wound up in the ocean.

00:57:35.000 That's not good for the fish and ultimately not good for us, but it's good for the people in Japan. 0.76

00:57:41.000 The other piece of it was it happened on a Friday.

00:57:43.000 And they had a thousand people at Daiichi and another thousand at Daini.

00:57:50.000 Had that not happened, if it happened on a weekend, DynE would have melted down as well.

00:57:56.000 There's four reactors there that would have melted down as well.

00:57:59.000 So, we could have had ten nuclear reactors melting down if this thing had happened on a Saturday.

00:58:06.000 Well, this gets back to the whole thing called Murphy's Law, and I'm really starting to question the ability of science to anticipate the long-term implications of its present-day actions.

00:58:19.000 I want to ask you about that, and how can science be made safer when we return on the other side of this break.

00:58:25.000 You are listening to the Alex Jones Show, an interview with Arne Gunderson about Fukushima and radiation.

00:58:31.000 And the next hour begins in just minutes, so stay with us.

00:58:34.000 We'll be right back.

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01:00:19.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:25.000 Welcome to the second hour of the Alex Jones Show.

01:00:27.000 Mike Adams filling in for Alex today, but he will be joining us in approximately 25 minutes with some announcements about Bilderberg.

01:00:35.000 So that's going to be interesting.

01:00:37.000 He's got some major announcements to make.

01:00:39.000 And between now and then, we continue to be joined by Arnie Gunderson, nuclear industry expert.

01:00:45.000 An outspoken scientist.

01:00:47.000 I don't know if outspoken is the right word.

01:00:49.000 Just somebody who's willing to tell the truth, you know, which is so rare today that it almost seems extraordinary.

01:00:54.000 But it is just someone willing to tell the truth.

01:00:57.000 He continues with us.

01:00:58.000 Arnie, are you still there?

01:01:00.000 Yeah, I'm still here.

01:01:01.000 Okay, great, great.

01:01:03.000 So in the last segment we talked about how the amount of radiation released from Fukushima has already vastly exceeded the amount released from Chernobyl and that catastrophic accident in Ukraine.

01:01:16.000 But what about the amount of energy contained in these partially spent fuel rods that could conceivably burn?

01:01:25.000 Is there any estimation of how much energy is in that fuel compared to Chernobyl?

01:01:32.000 Oh, that would be 20 times Chernobyl, I'm sure. 0.72

01:01:35.000 So suddenly that 85 doesn't look too unrealistic when you start looking at any single fuel pool.

01:01:42.000 You know, I said earlier, everybody's focused on Unit 4, and rightfully so, but Unit 3 had a more severe explosion, and it's likely structurally weakened even more than Unit 4.

01:01:56.000 And the Unit 3 pool has about half as much nuclear fuel as the Unit 4 pool.

01:02:02.000 So it's not clear to me that Unit 3 is a whole heck of a lot better.

01:02:10.000 What is the thinking behind this idea of whoever engineered these nuclear power plants, and I know U.S.

01:02:17.000 corporations, I think General Electric was part of the key designer, you can correct me if I'm wrong about that, but what is this idea of let's store nuclear fuel 30 meters above the ground in a pool?

01:02:29.000 Why not always store it at ground level or underground, even on site?

01:02:34.000 That's a great question.

01:02:35.000 I asked that question 40 years ago when I started my career.

01:02:39.000 At the time, they don't do that anymore.

01:02:43.000 It's just this Mark 1 reactor and a few Mark 2s that do that.

01:02:48.000 All the other boiling water reactors, the Mark 3s, and all the other pressurized water reactors do store it down low.

01:02:55.000 At the time this thing was designed, you've got to remember, this was designed in the mid-60s.

01:03:00.000 They were afraid that if they opened gates and the fuel pool was lower than a nuclear reactor, they could drain the nuclear reactor.

01:03:09.000 So if they put the pool on the same elevation as the reactor, that wouldn't happen.

01:03:14.000 So there was a logic behind it, but then they basically developed a better fuel transfer mechanism that that doesn't happen.

01:03:22.000 I see.

01:03:23.000 You know, you can get this fuel out of these pools.

01:03:28.000 The technology's there.

01:03:30.000 There's dry cask storage that's available, and there were dry casks at Fukushima.

01:03:35.000 They all survived the tsunami just fine.

01:03:38.000 In the U.S., we could take all of our fuel pools that are totally overcrowded and put them on the ground.

01:03:45.000 But the problem is the NRC is letting the utilities that own them get away with it because they don't want to spend the money.

01:03:54.000 Isn't it always about saving money, even if they put the population at risk?

01:03:54.000 Well, of course.

01:03:59.000 And that's the sad part about this, but if you get back to the 1960s when this was being designed, is this a Mark I facility or a Mark II?

01:04:07.000 This is a Mark I. Mark I.

01:04:09.000 Certainly, in the 1960s, the scientists at that time must have known that Japan, that whole region, was geologically extremely active.

01:04:18.000 That's not a big secret, even in the 1960s.

01:04:21.000 How could they, I'm not asking, I'm not accusing you, obviously you didn't put it there, but I'm asking you to try to help us understand what kind of weird thinking went on.

01:04:29.000 How could they even place a nuclear facility right on the coast where it would be hit by a tsunami?

01:04:35.000 Ten seconds and we gotta go to break.

01:04:38.000 And we'll answer it on the other side.

01:04:39.000 Okay, great.

01:04:40.000 Okay, sorry.

01:04:41.000 I didn't mean to set you up like that, Arnie.

01:04:44.000 My timing mistake there.

01:04:45.000 But we'll be back with an answer to that question and much more straight ahead on the Alex Jones Show.

01:04:50.000 This is Mike Adams filling in.

01:04:51.000 Stay with us.

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01:08:13.000 Hope you're enjoying our conversation on this amazing Friday.

01:08:16.000 Amazing being how amazing is it what's happening in our world and the lack of a reasonable reaction to it.

01:08:23.000 We've got a Fukushima situation that quite literally threatens life as we know it in the Northern Hemisphere.

01:08:29.000 That doesn't mean it would instantly kill us all, but it could unleash radiation that could kill us slowly.

01:08:34.000 It's the big slow-kill situation.

01:08:36.000 It could contaminate our food supply for literally centuries if the worst case happens.

01:08:41.000 So we want to prevent that.

01:08:43.000 We want to solve this problem.

01:08:45.000 And just before the break, Arne Gunderson from fairwinds.com, who is Probably, arguably, the most respected expert who's speaking out on this issue.

01:08:55.000 He said that we have the technology to remove the fuel from these precarious fuel pools and put them in a safer storage location.

01:09:04.000 So my question to you, Arnie, and thank you for your continued time with us here.

01:09:08.000 I know you're extremely busy and I really honor your time here on the show.

01:09:13.000 Why isn't the international community, and the U.S.

01:09:16.000 in particular, on all hands on deck, red alert, let's go over there and solve this problem immediately and eliminate this danger now?

01:09:26.000 My one word answer is money.

01:09:32.000 We didn't have to wait for Fukushima to know that a problem of this nature was looking over our shoulder.

01:09:41.000 There have been experts out there saying it for years, myself included.

01:09:46.000 There's this stuff called dry cast storage, where after the fuel is about 3 or 4 years old, it can be cooled in air, and so it gets put in these casts.

01:09:56.000 It's still hotter than a pistol from a radiation standpoint, but the physical heat is down.

01:10:01.000 They put them in these huge casts that weigh a hundred or more tons, and they set them on the ground.

01:10:07.000 And until we get a long-term storage solution, the best place is out of those pools and on the ground.

01:10:14.000 The Nuclear Regulatory Commission is playing games with this, and they're saying, well, we need to consider all of the costs, as well as the benefit of getting it out of the pool.

01:10:25.000 But wait a minute, let me interrupt you there, and I apologize, Arnie, but When they needed to bail out Goldman Sachs, they came up with the money.

01:10:33.000 They just created a trillion dollars out of nothing and they bailed out the banks.

01:10:36.000 So, how is it that banks, that saving the banks is more important than saving humanity, potentially?

01:10:43.000 I mean, does the NRC, does the U.S.

01:10:47.000 government not understand scale of dangers?

01:10:50.000 I don't get this.

01:10:52.000 Why are the banks more important than saving humanity?

01:10:55.000 No, I think you're absolutely right.

01:10:57.000 And the money's there.

01:10:58.000 It's not like, you know, for the banks we had to create the money, sort of, but there's a $27 billion fund for long-term storage.

01:11:07.000 Now that's set aside for looking for geological storage and things like that, but we could use that fund.

01:11:14.000 So we have been putting in a tenth of a penny per kilowatt of nuclear power we use for years and years and years.

01:11:22.000 So this fund has developed over $20 billion.

01:11:25.000 We could use that fund to put it all into, put all these fuel pools in the dry cast storage and this problem would be solved both from a terrorism standpoint as well as from an act of God like at Fukushima.

01:11:39.000 This is solvable.

01:11:40.000 What kind of time frame?

01:11:41.000 If the money were made available today, let's say if the Federal Reserve actually wanted to solve this problem, and they went into their little computer, and they typed in some digits and created another trillion dollars, like they did every time they wanted to bail out Wall Street, if that money were available, what are we talking in terms of total cleanup?

01:11:58.000 Like, ten weeks?

01:11:59.000 Longer?

01:12:00.000 What do you think it is?

01:12:00.000 Six months?

01:12:02.000 You just have to fabricate the containers.

01:12:04.000 It would probably take a year or two to fabricate enough containers.

01:12:08.000 So, you know, certainly within three years it's solvable.

01:12:12.000 And it doesn't even take an act of Congress or the Federal Reserve.

01:12:15.000 It just takes the Nuclear Regulatory Commission saying, do it.

01:12:19.000 But even, okay, if you say two or three years to create these containers, but in that time frame then, between now and the time that this is solved, An earthquake, you said a 7 or a 7.5 magnitude earthquake with an epicenter near Fukushima could bring this pool down before the problem is solved and thereby unleash this massive amount of radiation.

01:12:41.000 It seems like we are at risk for this time period and the government, the NRC hasn't even announced that it's going to take these steps to solve it.

01:12:49.000 So we could be facing this risk for a decade, couldn't we?

01:12:53.000 Well, yeah, there's two questions there.

01:12:56.000 One, what I was talking about is, in the U.S., we could solve this in three years and just pray there's no earthquake.

01:13:01.000 You know, in Fukushima, I was on Chris Martinson a year ago, and I explained how you could solve this problem, which was to build a building outside the building to lift the nuclear fuel out.

01:13:15.000 And just last week, Tokyo Electric said, you know, we're going to build a building around the building.

01:13:21.000 They are taking way too long to solve this problem because of exactly the concerns that, you know, another earthquake could come.

01:13:29.000 So it seems like we are being smothered by red tape here.

01:13:34.000 It's like humanity is hanging on the edge of a cliff by our fingernails, figuratively speaking.

01:13:40.000 This radiation of release could happen at any moment if Mother Nature, if an earthquake takes place and yet governments everywhere japan and u.s in particular are dragging their feet on this and and doing nothing they're not taking responsibility they're not even they're not even serving the interests of the people that they claim to represent this this is pathetic this is sad because it's a case of almost another you know you know demo side death by government if the worst case happens

01:14:08.000 well i think it's you know death by the nuclear industry deeply infused into government here, this is a, you know, the regulator, The Japanese have a great word for it. 0.93

01:14:19.000 When people working for the regulator go to work at a high level and well-paying jobs at the utility, they call it ascent into heaven.

01:14:31.000 This is coziness and it's with the the IAEA who I've seen papers say that they're a watchdog.

01:14:38.000 In fact, Article 2 of their Charter says their goal is to promote nuclear power.

01:14:43.000 So the industry and the government are essentially one no matter where you go.

01:14:48.000 The Prime Minister of Japan Now, was the finance minister during the accident, and one of his emails surfaced about a month ago, and it said, it was from three weeks after the accident, and he said, whatever you do, do not affect TEPCO.

01:15:05.000 So, you know, they've been more interested in protecting TEPCO and their own bureaucratic butts than they have been about protecting the people of Japan.

01:15:15.000 Well, what's new? 0.97

01:15:17.000 What government body or department doesn't want to cover its own butt? 0.75

01:15:20.000 Or, hey, in the case of the ATF or the DEA in America, they actually create problems so they get bigger budgets and become more powerful. 0.88

01:15:29.000 The CDC did that.

01:15:30.000 The FBI does that, running these false terror events, but that's a different topic.

01:15:35.000 Let me ask you this.

01:15:36.000 I noticed that the general public has a very poor understanding of what I would call relative risk.

01:15:43.000 I was trained as, in a scientific way, as an engineer, very strong background in mathematics, and I often think about the relative risk of events.

01:15:52.000 A lot of people are concerned about, let's say, Yellowstone exploding.

01:15:56.000 Well that happens once every 600,000 years.

01:15:58.000 Or they're concerned about a comet or an asteroid hitting the planet.

01:16:01.000 That's possible, but in terms of relative risk, The Fukushima event is here now.

01:16:08.000 It is orders of magnitude more likely than many of these other concerns that tend to dominate people's psychological focus.

01:16:16.000 Can you speak to this issue of relative risk and having an appropriate perception of what risks really exist? 0.85

01:16:23.000 Yeah, I have a saying, sooner or later in any foolproof system, the fools are going to exceed the proofs.

01:16:30.000 I think that we fooled ourselves at Fukushima, we as the world, and essentially this concept is for any reactor, but let's look at Fukushima.

01:16:42.000 You know, we knew we could build a power plant that could withstand a Richter 7 and a 3-meter, a 9-foot tsunami, so that's what we built.

01:16:52.000 And we fooled ourselves into thinking that that's what Mother Nature was going to give us, a 7-Richter, 3-foot, 3-meter tsunami.

01:17:02.000 The economics to build a plant to withstand a Richter 8 or a 60-foot tsunami would have made it so you wouldn't have built that nuclear You couldn't have afforded to build that nuclear plant.

01:17:14.000 So I think that in the back of the people's minds who are advocates of the technology, they convince themselves that Mother Nature is going to be benign.

01:17:23.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:17:25.000 No, I'm just laughing.

01:17:26.000 Keep going.

01:17:27.000 Because they're so wrong.

01:17:29.000 Mother Nature always gives you, it hands you something that's completely unanticipated.

01:17:35.000 In fact, you cannot even imagine, the human mind, even a brilliant nuclear engineer, nuclear physicist, cannot accurately anticipate the unexpected nature of Mother Nature.

01:17:47.000 You know, my journey has been from, you know, pro-nuclear, senior vice president, and then I got to the point when I blew the whistle and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission took bribes and deliberately botched the inspection.

01:17:58.000 I still believed in the technology, but I didn't believe in government.

01:18:02.000 And now, the Fukushima accident has pushed me over, and I'm at a point where, just like what you said, I don't believe that mankind can build something strong enough that Mother Nature can't knock it down.

01:18:14.000 And, considering the consequences, you know, it's not just the risk.

01:18:19.000 If it was one person getting knocked over by a tsunami, that's one thing, but the risk of this, and the consequences.

01:18:27.000 Yeah, yeah, there has to be risk versus consequences, because that's the other side of the equation.

01:18:32.000 Yeah, you know, Gorbachev said that in his memoir, so this is a smart guy, he's been around a while, he said that it wasn't Perestroika that ruined the Soviet Union, it was Chernobyl.

01:18:45.000 I think we're seeing the same thing here with Fukushima.

01:18:48.000 This is going to be a half a trillion or more dollars, and that works out to be about $4,000 for every man, woman, and child in Japan.

01:18:56.000 And it's going to bring that country to its knees.

01:19:00.000 Do we want a technology that can be perfect for 40 years and then have one bad day and wipe you out?

01:19:07.000 Very good question, Arne Gunderson.

01:19:09.000 We're almost out of time.

01:19:10.000 I want to encourage people to visit your website, fairwinds.com.

01:19:13.000 And Arne, any final thoughts you want to add in the next 30 seconds?

01:19:18.000 As we round this up.

01:19:20.000 Just real quick.

01:19:21.000 You know, we've been told that nuclear is safe and we can store the nuclear waste for a quarter of a million years.

01:19:28.000 But those same people are saying we can't use solar because we can't store the solar electricity overnight.

01:19:36.000 And that doesn't make sense to me.

01:19:37.000 If we can develop a technology to store nuclear waste for a quarter of a million years, we can certainly develop batteries or something to store the sun overnight.

01:19:45.000 Well said.

01:19:46.000 Arnie Gunderson from fairwinds.com.

01:19:48.000 Thank you, Arnie, for joining me today.

01:19:49.000 A real honor to have you on.

01:19:51.000 I enjoyed the conversation with you immensely.

01:19:53.000 On the other side of this break, Alex Jones joins us.

01:19:55.000 Thank you again, Arnie.

01:19:58.000 Alright, stay with us, folks.

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01:24:15.000 Yeah, the Fukushima situation is precarious and only the most obscene denialists would look the other way or stick their heads in the ground over this issue.

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01:24:35.000 But until then, as promised, We're going to be turning over control of this InfoWars battleship to the commander, Alex Jones, who joins us by phone with some special announcements.

01:24:46.000 Alex, how are you doing today?

01:24:47.000 Oh, Mike, you're so great.

01:24:49.000 Thank you for sitting in on the show here.

01:24:53.000 I just realized yesterday that the end of this month is creeping up on us very, very fast.

01:24:58.000 It's racing towards us.

01:25:00.000 And so over the weekend and then on Monday up at InfoWars.com, We're going to have some breakdowns on what's coming up with Bilderberg this year.

01:25:11.000 I mean, these are the people running our military, openly growing the opium in Afghanistan.

01:25:17.000 Think about that.

01:25:17.000 Public view.

01:25:18.000 These are the people, worldwide, installing continuity within the TSA, groping, with Geraldo Rivera now saying he was raped by the TSA.

01:25:26.000 That's what this is, legally.

01:25:28.000 is rape, what they're doing, but they take him out and brutalize him, particularly just like many congressmen.

01:25:34.000 This is about getting away with whatever they want.

01:25:37.000 The Bilderberg crowd are the people that are running all of this.

01:25:43.000 They are at the very top of the pyramid.

01:25:45.000 There's other powerful groups, but those are all run by Bilderberg attendees as well.

01:25:48.000 And so here's the big announcement.

01:25:52.000 A lot of folks know Jim's getting old, and he's kind of passed the baton over to Mr. Anderson over to America Free Press, doing a great job.

01:26:00.000 I, in the last two years, was contacted by somebody inside Bilderberg.

01:26:04.000 I'll just leave it at that.

01:26:04.000 I won't say if it's a member or one of their assistant secretaries.

01:26:07.000 Whatever.

01:26:08.000 I'm not going to say.

01:26:09.000 I then got another source earlier, well, last week, and folks noticed I was able to call and do the name of the conference, Palm Tree Conference, that Build-A-Bear is booked under.

01:26:21.000 So right now, Build-A-Bear is 100% at the Westfield Marriott.

01:26:26.000 I was talking to a national journalist last week, and they're like, is it really going to be there?

01:26:30.000 And I said, yeah, I mean, they're booked.

01:26:32.000 There's a slight chance.

01:26:34.000 I think they've only done this once before.

01:26:35.000 They could know that a big crowd's coming to protest them and move it somewhere, but that's probably not going to happen.

01:26:41.000 And I'll know by actually today.

01:26:45.000 I've got to make some phone calls.

01:26:47.000 But today and tomorrow is when the Goldenberg Group people all officially fill the slot.

01:26:52.000 They've had the invitation, the code word, and then they have to call and get booked under the Palm Tree Group at the hotel in Virginia.

01:26:59.000 It is shut down for those days.

01:27:00.000 The 31st of May is the 3rd of June.

01:27:04.000 So for those three and a half, four days, I'm going to be there.

01:27:06.000 And it's also important to add completely, peacefully, in the info war, protesting and also alternative media coverage.

01:27:15.000 Our guys just on Justin TV last year, Paul Watts and Aaron Dykes, had three and a half million views in three days just on a Justin TV account that we never even used.

01:27:24.000 So we're going to be live on Justin TV.

01:27:26.000 We're going to be live at prisonplanet.tv in higher quality.

01:27:30.000 We're going to be all over the place.

01:27:33.000 This is going to be a very special year.

01:27:36.000 And unless they back off and move somewhere else or go to Canada or go back to Europe, I don't think that's going to happen.

01:27:42.000 They are there.

01:27:43.000 It is confirmed.

01:27:44.000 And I now have a source.

01:27:47.000 I've had it the last few years, but it's definitely confirmed.

01:27:50.000 I now have a source in Bilderberg, something that only Jim Tucker has really had.

01:27:56.000 I think people have had some on the sidelines.

01:28:00.000 This is a big victory for us.

01:28:01.000 And now I just don't have one.

01:28:03.000 I have two.

01:28:03.000 So, yeah, it's a pretty big victory.

01:28:07.000 A lot of boffins died to bring us this information to quote Star Wars.

01:28:12.000 To quote, we've got the plans, now we've got to rally everyone.

01:28:16.000 Yes, be there.

01:28:17.000 I want to see thousands of people.

01:28:19.000 If we could get Europeans, over 500 at one time, to show up in the middle of nowhere in St. 1.00

01:28:25.000 Moritz, and they even tried to block the trains to go into the area for any activists or foreigners.

01:28:32.000 Then we should be able to get a few thousand people peacefully to demand media coverage and make the corporate whore media call for it. 1.00

01:28:40.000 Because remember, all these decades it didn't exist, we were crazy. 0.91

01:28:43.000 Now they have to admit it, but they don't want to cover it.

01:28:45.000 Yeah, and Alex, I'm glad you mentioned peacefully in terms of the protests, because that's crucial to send that message out to those who are going to be there joining you in the protests.

01:28:53.000 Are you expecting instigators to come in and try to cause problems to be blamed on you?

01:28:58.000 You know, I don't think so.

01:29:01.000 We've seen some of this in other big G20s and things because that's about showing you you're a slave.

01:29:06.000 It's a martial law drill, whether it's in England, whether it's in Italy, whether it's in Germany, whether it's in the U.S. or Canada.

01:29:14.000 A G20 is always standardized, letting you know that you're a slave, you're a piece of bills.

01:29:18.000 Basically, martial law is what they have in Chicago with NATO coming up.

01:29:22.000 They want you to know that you're a slave and set that precedent when it's a real elite Bilderberg meeting where real decisions are being made, not just some public policy stuff like these NATO and G20 meetings.

01:29:32.000 20 seconds.

01:29:33.000 We're there.

01:29:34.000 They're just regurgitating stuff.

01:29:35.000 They don't want attention to it.

01:29:37.000 And so that's why the police always.

01:29:38.000 I'll come back for a few minutes to finish, and then we'll go to your next guest on the Keep Book of Shema News.

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01:33:00.000 We're back on the Alex Jones Show on this Friday, May 11th.

01:33:16.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:33:17.000 A lot of hard-hitting issues straight ahead, and we continue to be joined by Alex Jones himself via phone with his continued announcements about the Bilderbergs.

01:33:27.000 Just to finish up, you can get back to the incredibly important issue of Fukushima, that the elite aren't worried about 80-plus times.

01:33:27.000 Go ahead, Alex.

01:33:35.000 Chernobyl, no, that's no big deal.

01:33:38.000 Again, these are the globalists that think they're God.

01:33:41.000 Four years ago, Madeleine Albright pulled in the wrong turn and was panicking and basically crying.

01:33:47.000 Luke Grudowski and others saw her so scared of just maybe 150 people that were out there at one time.

01:33:53.000 And that's another issue.

01:33:54.000 I've got to think about this to come up with a plan.

01:33:56.000 People are welcome to their own plans.

01:33:58.000 But in the next few days, maybe even today, I'll make an article out on infoawards.com, But definitely this weekend, I'm going to call and work on them with Watson to just have some basic rally times and points so we can all rally at one point.

01:34:11.000 And then also, you know, protest the new live coverage pretty much continually through the day and the night there from the 31st through the 3rd.

01:34:20.000 And again, they're going to arrive that Thursday afternoon.

01:34:23.000 The hotel will be shut down that morning.

01:34:26.000 And then they start meeting Friday and Saturday, then they play golf on Sunday and leave.

01:34:32.000 That's another issue.

01:34:33.000 We know which golf course nearby they go to.

01:34:35.000 So there's just a lot of things.

01:34:36.000 We're going to be there covering it.

01:34:38.000 And four years ago there, of course, Obama and Hillary were meeting in secret.

01:34:42.000 It was the number one story in the country.

01:34:44.000 Where have they disappeared to for a day?

01:34:46.000 We were there.

01:34:47.000 Secret Service was there getting in our face, pointing guns at us, driving by in their motorcades, showing us their HK 9mm submachine gun like that would scare us.

01:34:47.000 We knew they were there.

01:34:59.000 Just U.S. citizens trying to cover public officials, breaking the Logan Act, meeting in secret with royalty and others, and Rockefellers and Rothschilds, and him to Kissinger setting the destiny of our world, trying to bring in a Gen-21. 0.88

01:35:11.000 I'm just a free man who wants my freedom.

01:35:14.000 So, you asked about provocateurs and things.

01:35:18.000 Just to recap.

01:35:20.000 We'd be at the hotel, you know, while Goldberg was going on at our hotel at night, just eating a hamburger in the bar.

01:35:26.000 And they'd have big FBI guys, you know, come and sit down on each side of us and say, hey, let's attack something.

01:35:32.000 I'm just like, come on, guys.

01:35:34.000 I mean, what are you, Secret Service?

01:35:36.000 What are you, FBI?

01:35:38.000 And then later we learned they were assigned Diplomatic Security Corps, assigned to the State Department, and they had plainclothes Marines out there.

01:35:48.000 All of this, like, we're bad as Americans when a bunch of criminals are meeting in there and aren't supposed to exist.

01:35:55.000 We're here covering the real issue.

01:35:57.000 They might provocateur something.

01:35:59.000 They might stage something, they might do something, but I seriously doubt it because they don't want to draw attention to this real meeting.

01:36:08.000 G20s and things like that are about global standardization of the exact same police states, snatch and grabs, no First Amendment, no free speech, Soviet system comes to America, comes to Canada, comes to Australia, wherever they have these meetings.

01:36:23.000 Global standardization.

01:36:24.000 They do not want that at these meetings, and again, Everybody needs to be there.

01:36:33.000 If you can take off work in the morning, Thursday, and some still arrive late on Friday, they'll be arriving all day.

01:36:42.000 That's always a great time to cover all the entrances so that we can get more videos from criminals like Osama Bin Bernanke and others arriving. 0.89

01:36:53.000 But undoubtedly we need some big rally point, and I'm thinking that should be something o'clock and just rally and bullhorn right through into the dark at like eight o'clock at night.

01:37:05.000 I think that's an important thing to do.

01:37:07.000 But again, I'm going to put out a basic battle plan of when I plan to be in the info war.

01:37:11.000 And if people want to rally at those points, that's great.

01:37:14.000 But everybody needs to be there.

01:37:16.000 You know, I threw the term out a few weeks ago, Occupy Bilderberg, and some people came out and said, well, you know, that's kind of the socialist Occupy movement.

01:37:20.000 Occupy Bilderberg, and some people came out and said, well, you know, that's kind of the socialist Occupy movement.

01:37:25.000 It doesn't matter.

01:37:26.000 The word Occupy just simply gets at media attention.

01:37:26.000 The word Occupy just simply gets media attention.

01:37:29.000 We can call it confront Bilderberg with the truth or rally, you know, against globalists.

01:37:35.000 It doesn't matter.

01:37:36.000 The point is we're going to be there having a protest, having demonstrations for three and a half, four days, because it will get international press coverage.

01:37:45.000 It will get huge alternative media coverage.

01:37:49.000 It will be absolutely huge, and it will probably force the U.S. media to cover it as well if enough people are there. 0.62

01:37:55.000 And that exposes the fact that Obama's just a puppet and that Mitt Romney's just a puppet, and there's a real power behind the throne.

01:38:02.000 And thanks to the drug report the last four or five years, it's been forced into the mainstream media.

01:38:06.000 That's why three weeks ago the Washington Post admitted that basically Bilderberg Group grooms both political candidates and vice presidential candidates.

01:38:14.000 an amazing admission from a paper that's been part of the meeting going back to 1954 and Utrebek-Holland when it first kicked off.

01:38:21.000 But listen, get to your next guest.

01:38:22.000 I just wanted to make this announcement here that, yes, it's on.

01:38:26.000 Yes, it's in Chantilly.

01:38:28.000 And now we're only like 20 days or less away from the kickoff of this.

01:38:32.000 So, folks, don't say you didn't have a chance to really go protest and expose some real globalists.

01:38:39.000 They advertise G20.

01:38:41.000 They advertise NATO.

01:38:42.000 They advertise RNC, DNC.

01:38:44.000 You go there, and the cops are all waiting for you.

01:38:47.000 They build a club.

01:38:47.000 You know, they sound cannon.

01:38:48.000 They're there to treat everybody like slaves.

01:38:51.000 Teach everybody there's no freedom in America.

01:38:53.000 Same thing in Europe.

01:38:54.000 But they don't do that at these, because they don't want the media attention.

01:38:59.000 The police, quite frankly, will be there with red carpets and be asking you if you need to eliminate.

01:39:05.000 Not quite, but they have been told in Canada, once you actually get through the court, and they've been told in Virginia, do not arrest anybody.

01:39:17.000 So again, I think the safety level is very high, but we need a lot of media monitors, cameras on at all times, to cover whatever happens.

01:39:24.000 If the feds try to provocateur some stuff, they did do one little thing as a test four years ago when I was in Virginia. 0.95

01:39:30.000 We are going to be on them, exposing their criminal false flags, because their garbage doesn't work anymore. 0.98

01:39:36.000 But these are the criminals. 1.00

01:39:37.000 These are the enemies of America.

01:39:39.000 This is one of the most important confabs, and it's right here in the U.S.

01:39:43.000 We have got a real chance to force this out there.

01:39:45.000 Mike Adams and the whole crew there, God bless you.

01:39:48.000 Get to your next guest, and we'll have more at Infowars.com in the next few days on this.

01:39:52.000 And I'll see all of you in Virginia.

01:39:54.000 All right.

01:39:55.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:39:56.000 Outstanding information.

01:39:57.000 Sounds like it's going to be not just a powerful rally, but actually just a great time to meet other like-minded people out there at this peaceful rally that Alex Jones is calling for.

01:40:07.000 Once again, check InfoWars.com for the details about the rally points and the rally times.

01:40:12.000 out there at the event.

01:40:13.000 Bring your recording devices, your video recorders, your audio recorders, your hidden video recorders, whatever it takes.

01:40:19.000 Put three or four cameras on your body, mount them everywhere, and get video and upload it to YouTube.

01:40:24.000 This is the time to get the word out about that.

01:40:26.000 And Alex, if you need my help here to hold down the home base in Austin, I'll be happy to come in and help coordinate during that time.

01:40:34.000 If you've got reporters on the road and you need someone to fill in locally, to fill in the gaps in the reports, let me know.

01:40:40.000 This is about all of us working together for this right here, liberty.

01:40:43.000 I've got the symbol of liberty on our desk here if you're watching on PrisonPlanet.TV.

01:40:48.000 Now, moving on.

01:40:50.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:40:51.000 Nice little statue out there.

01:40:56.000 I tried to find one made in America, and that was a challenge.

01:40:59.000 So I'm looking for an American-made statuette that I can put on this desk and bring it with me.

01:41:05.000 So if anybody has got one, I'd be happy to buy it from you.

01:41:08.000 Please, I'd like an American artist to have a statuette here of the American eagle and the flags and the freedom and everything.

01:41:14.000 That's what I'm really looking for.

01:41:15.000 I'm willing to pay for it, willing to buy it, so let me know.

01:41:19.000 You can send that to ShowTipsAtInfoWars.com.

01:41:21.000 Now, we're moving on to our next guest, Dr. Len Saputo, and his website is DrSaputo.com, and he joins us to talk about the solutions for what happens if the Fukushima radiation is unleashed in the ways that we talked about during our interview with Arne Gunderson.

01:41:41.000 North America, in fact the entire northern hemisphere, could be just drastically affected in a hugely negative way.

01:41:48.000 Dr. Saputo, thank you for joining me today with some solutions.

01:41:52.000 It's great to have you on.

01:41:53.000 Thank you, Mike.

01:41:54.000 It's always a pleasure being on your show.

01:41:55.000 I really enjoyed listening to Arnie Gunderson talk about the magnitude of the problem.

01:42:00.000 Yeah, he really laid it out for us, didn't he?

01:42:02.000 This is not a small deal.

01:42:03.000 This is a globally impacting event.

01:42:06.000 We are on the edge of a cliff as a race, as human civilization, hanging on by our fingernails, as I said.

01:42:14.000 This thing could go terribly wrong If that happens, we're going to see a massive amount of radiation released, much of it falling onto North America.

01:42:23.000 That's going to put people in a situation where they need protection from radiation.

01:42:26.000 Many people don't realize there are lots of things they can do.

01:42:30.000 What would you like to start with, Dr. Saputo?

01:42:32.000 Well, first of all, talk about how little radiation it takes to cause problems.

01:42:37.000 I mean, we're looking at a massive amount of radiation.

01:42:40.000 We don't know the amount that's going to come across this country.

01:42:43.000 But there are a lot of things we can do to prepare that are really safe and easy to do.

01:42:47.000 I mean, there are things like diet and supplements, exercise.

01:42:51.000 We forget about the value of lifestyle measures.

01:42:54.000 You're trying to really fight here against the effects of the ionizing radiation which cause a lot of free radical damage which is what destroys our tissue and what causes the problem for radiation.

01:43:05.000 Now we can combat that by building up our own antioxidant levels and we can do that endogenously meaning inside of our body with our own defenses by doing a lot of exercise and that's not a small thing.

01:43:18.000 If we do hard exercise, we build a lot of free radicals in our body and our body adapts to it beautifully.

01:43:25.000 That's what happens when we get into shape.

01:43:28.000 But there are also a lot of foods we can use and a lot of supplements that I think are outstanding.

01:43:33.000 Can you name some of the best foods and some of the best supplements that you know of?

01:43:37.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:43:38.000 We've got foods that are rich in sulfur, like garlic and onions, ginger, the brassica vegetables are out there, eggs are very good, and these all make glutathione, which is the most important intracellular antioxidant we have in our body.

01:43:52.000 And then there are foods that are rich in ECGC, you know, the green and white teas.

01:43:57.000 If you juice, that's probably the best way to get the most nutrient-dense food that's on the planet.

01:44:03.000 And that'll do a lot to build up your antioxidants, particularly if you add berries to that.

01:44:07.000 And then we look at things like the fermented foods that are rich in probiotics, you know, those friendly bacteria.

01:44:13.000 It's an interesting study on this Dunmike that shows that if you have the right probiotics, the right microflora in the intestinal tract, that it actually protects against radiation damage.

01:44:25.000 That was a shock to me when I saw that, but indeed it's published in the mainstream medicine.

01:44:29.000 Yeah, well you're absolutely right.

01:44:30.000 I want to comment on that.

01:44:31.000 You know, radiation damages you by, when the ionizing radiation strikes your DNA, it can knock out a piece of the code, of the DNA code, that then causes your cells to replicate in a cancerous type of way.

01:44:47.000 But there are nutritional and biological mechanisms that the human body has built in, in its blueprint, to repair DNA.

01:44:55.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:44:57.000 And then there are a whole bunch of supplements, you know, that are wonderful, that in concert can do a lot.

01:45:02.000 It's always better to do the things that you can to build up your own defenses.

01:45:06.000 But when you're looking at massive amounts of radiation, I mean, if it's enough, you can forget it, because there's not going to be much of anything you can do.

01:45:13.000 But you can add some things that will make a difference.

01:45:16.000 Things like vitamin A, maybe 5,000 IUs a day, and a little beta carotene of 25,000 IUs a day.

01:45:23.000 And vitamin E and vitamin D, another one that is really important, maybe up to 10,000 units a day.

01:45:29.000 Oh yeah.

01:45:30.000 They've done some studies on rats where they poisoned them with radiation poisoning, enough to kill them.

01:45:35.000 And when they gave them just a couple of grams of vitamin C, only about half of the rats died.

01:45:40.000 So if we took ourselves to what's called bowel tolerance with vitamin C, that would be a tremendously potent way to protect against the effects of radiation.

01:45:49.000 And that might be something like 10,000 milligrams a day.

01:45:52.000 I mean, a big, large dose of vitamin C, which is perfectly safe.

01:45:56.000 It's a water-soluble vitamin.

01:45:57.000 All it's going to do is perhaps give you a little bit of loose stools if you overdo it, but there's no real harm from mega-dosing.

01:46:05.000 There's a whole protocol on my website that takes you to what's called bowel tolerance.

01:46:09.000 And some people can take as much as 40 or 50 thousand units a day.

01:46:13.000 And if you're going to be exposed to radiation, and you were exposed to it, then your ability to tolerate the vitamin C would even go up.

01:46:21.000 It's called tolerance to vitamin C. So, taking the bowel tolerance is really an important thing to do.

01:46:26.000 And it's an amazingly potent anti-radiation protective mechanism.

01:46:30.000 Alright, now I think it's important what you just said, and I want to encourage people to visit your website, drsaputo.com, just like it sounds, s-a-p-u-t-o dot com, drsaputo.com.

01:46:40.000 You've got some protocols described there.

01:46:42.000 You said that, essentially, something very important, you can't just take some vitamins, chug some juice, and then go walk through Chernobyl and expect to survive.

01:46:52.000 It's not, this is not a bulletproof nutritional suit.

01:46:56.000 You've got to build up this nutrition over time, right?

01:47:00.000 That's why lifestyle is so important, and why fitness is so important, and what you eat is so important.

01:47:00.000 Exactly.

01:47:05.000 Getting enough sleep is important.

01:47:07.000 All the things that are in our usual lifestyle are important to do the right way.

01:47:11.000 I mean, if we did that, it wouldn't just be protection against radiation.

01:47:15.000 It'd be protection against almost every chronic disease there is.

01:47:18.000 That's right.

01:47:18.000 Heart disease, cancer, diabetes.

01:47:21.000 Yeah.

01:47:22.000 We also have some other direct, first-hand observations on nutrition versus radiation because I know lots of people who have family members or friends who have gone into radiotherapy for cancer, you know, radiation treatments for cancer.

01:47:36.000 And if you look at what kinds of nutritional protocols they follow before they go into that, you've got two groups.

01:47:42.000 You've got the junk food group That normally do terribly and they suffer all kinds of terrible side effects from the radiation.

01:47:48.000 And then you've got the holistic nutrition group that normally recovers and goes on to live a long life.

01:47:53.000 They do a lot better, particularly if you're on an alkaline diet, and you're adding some of the supplements we're talking about.

01:47:59.000 Actually, there's some others that I want to mention that I think are really powerful.

01:48:03.000 Things like resveratrol.

01:48:05.000 I mean, that's actually been tested in mice who've been poisoned with radiation.

01:48:09.000 And the ones that are on about 500 mg, or the equivalent dose that we would take of about 500 mg a day, do really well.

01:48:16.000 And things like L-glutamine, another really important nutrient to take because, see, the damage from acute radiation poisoning comes from two sources.

01:48:24.000 And these are all cells that turn over fast, rapidly.

01:48:28.000 And those are in the gut, and that's what really kills most people.

01:48:32.000 And if it's acute enough, it just wipes out the cells because they only have a three-day turnover there.

01:48:38.000 So when you're getting poisoned by radiation, if you throw in some L-glutamine, which is a major metabolic fuel of the gut, and a few other nutrients that the gut likes, it's got a much better chance of surviving.

01:48:49.000 Same thing with probiotics, like I was mentioning before.

01:48:52.000 So all these things, when they're taken together in concert, maybe throw a little quercetin in there as well, a great anti-inflammatory bioflavonoid that protects against inflammation.

01:49:03.000 You can do a lot to protect yourself!

01:49:06.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:49:07.000 I want to mention a couple, I went back to the InfoWars store actually before the show here to grab a couple supplements that I'm personally familiar with that are also well known to help protect against radiation.

01:49:17.000 I just want to mention those.

01:49:19.000 The first is called ThyroSafe.

01:49:21.000 This is just your standard potassium iodide tablets.

01:49:24.000 KI, that's, you know, protect your thyroid. 0.95

01:49:24.000 Indeed. 0.95

01:49:26.000 That's well known.

01:49:27.000 But the other one that's not so well known that I've actually covered, I actually interviewed the founder of this company in 2008.

01:49:34.000 And the company, the product is called Modifilin.

01:49:37.000 Modifilin.

01:49:38.000 It is a brown seaweed extract.

01:49:41.000 This is an extraordinary nutritional product.

01:49:44.000 It has been used in other, not necessarily in this brand name, but the actual seaweed itself, the brown seaweed, was used following the nuclear attacks, the atomic bomb attacks of World War II.

01:49:57.000 It was used following Chernobyl.

01:49:59.000 And I don't have any financial ties to this company, by the way.

01:50:01.000 I just know this to be very, very useful for protecting against radiation, and that is available at the InfoWars store, by the way.

01:50:09.000 And in fact, you can read my interview with the founder of that company.

01:50:12.000 Just go to naturalnews.com and search for Modiphilan, M-O-D-I-F-I-L-A-N, or search for brown seaweed extract.

01:50:19.000 You can read that interview.

01:50:20.000 So I just want to add that in, Dr. Saputo, because there's so many great supplements available for protecting yourself.

01:50:25.000 You're not totally helpless.

01:50:27.000 Right.

01:50:28.000 You know, all this can be kind of overwhelming because we're really giving out a ton of information here.

01:50:33.000 I've got it all outlined on my site.

01:50:34.000 If you go to DrSabuto.com on the home page, you have a section there where it talks about all the things we've talked about on the show and all the supplements and foods that we've reviewed.

01:50:44.000 Yeah, thank you.

01:50:45.000 That's very useful information.

01:50:46.000 We're going to talk about more solutions as we continue here on the Alex Jones Show.

01:50:50.000 So stay with us.

01:50:51.000 We'll be right back in just a couple of minutes with more solutions for radiation protection all across the world.

01:50:58.000 Stay with us.

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01:54:31.000 There's so many, it's almost hard to know where to begin some days, but we were just talking about supplements.

01:54:37.000 We've got Dr. Len Saputo on the line with us with some solutions of what can we do if the Fukushima Reactor goes into another burnout situation that was just described to us by Arnie Gunderson, where it actually bursts into flames.

01:54:51.000 The spent fuel rods or partially spent fuel rods burst into flames and release masses of radiation.

01:54:57.000 And even he said, you know, this is way, way worse than Chernobyl in terms of the amount of radiation that would be released in the cesium-137 and 134 isotopes, both that would head into North America.

01:55:10.000 And then I was just thinking during the break that if that happened, we would have maybe a 10-day window between the actual fire event in Fukushima and the arrival of the cesium on the land, on North America.

01:55:27.000 So in that 10-day window, you know what's going to happen?

01:55:30.000 Everybody and their brother is going to rush out and buy health foods.

01:55:34.000 And everybody's going to buy this stuff, thyrosafe, potassium iodide.

01:55:38.000 Remember, you couldn't get, you could not get this last year during the actual, following the Fukushima meltdown situation.

01:55:46.000 You could not get this.

01:55:48.000 This box, I don't know what this costs, it's probably a few bucks.

01:55:51.000 Some people were selling this on eBay for $600 a box.

01:55:55.000 So if you don't have KI or potassium iodide in your emergency medical kit right now, this is the time to get it.

01:56:04.000 Because you can get it.

01:56:05.000 Because nobody's paying attention.

01:56:07.000 It's the only time to get it.

01:56:09.000 Because once it goes up with Fukushima, this is gone.

01:56:12.000 This will sell out, believe me, here on InfoWars, this will be gone in 24 hours.

01:56:16.000 Absolutely gone.

01:56:17.000 And Alex will be on the show telling you it's gone.

01:56:19.000 Sorry.

01:56:20.000 You should have got it six months ago when you could, when it was cheap.

01:56:23.000 And we had the same situation over at Natural News.

01:56:25.000 We couldn't get any more.

01:56:27.000 It was sold out.

01:56:28.000 But getting back to Dr. Len Saputo.

01:56:30.000 Thank you again for joining me, Dr. Saputo.

01:56:32.000 Always great to have you on.

01:56:34.000 Let's talk about the junk food diet of the typical American consumer.

01:56:39.000 Isn't that diet making them more susceptible to radiation damage?

01:56:44.000 We talked about the nutrition side.

01:56:46.000 What about the anti-nutrition side?

01:56:48.000 Well, there's no question.

01:56:50.000 Look at your cells as a microscopic industrial plant.

01:56:54.000 And their job is to make product.

01:56:56.000 All the things that we need to make our cells function to keep us healthy.

01:57:00.000 And if all of our cells are healthy, you can't be sick.

01:57:02.000 But if you don't put the raw materials into that microscopic industrial plant, it can't make products out of thin air.

01:57:09.000 So if you're taking junk food in that has empty calories or has things that are harmful to your health, then the bottom line is going to be that you're not going to be able to respond when there's any kind of need for the products that your cells are supposed to make to keep you healthy.

01:57:22.000 So it's pretty straightforward.

01:57:24.000 I think one of the things we forget about is that we need to be prepared now for what will be happening in the future.

01:57:33.000 So your point is well taken there.

01:57:35.000 We need to be doing the things like buying the thyroid SSKI substance today.

01:57:43.000 We need to be living a healthy lifestyle today.

01:57:45.000 You need to build up your antioxidant levels.

01:57:48.000 You need to do all the things that you can do to make your body stronger so that you can fight against the radiation when it comes across.

01:57:54.000 That's absolutely right, Dr. Sabud.

01:57:56.000 I'll show this on camera once again.

01:57:57.000 This is my famous jar of superfood.

01:57:59.000 I always have one here at the studio.

01:58:01.000 This is absolutely loaded with nutrition.

01:58:04.000 And you can't just take this thyrosafe potassium iodide.

01:58:09.000 You can't just eat a junk food diet and take this and think now you're safe.

01:58:14.000 It's not enough.

01:58:15.000 You've got to have a healthy nutritional diet.

01:58:17.000 You've got to follow what Aaron Dykes is doing and what Alex is doing with the nutrition, with the mineralization if you want to be safe from radiation.

01:58:23.000 And that's got to start right now.

01:58:25.000 Dr. Saputo, sorry to be interrupting you so much, but stay with us.

01:58:28.000 We'll continue with you on the other side.

01:58:29.000 I get passionate about this stuff.

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02:00:25.000 Welcome back, my friends, as we continue here on the Alex Jones Show.

02:00:29.000 Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in for Alex today, broadcasting worldwide from FEMA Region 6 of Occupied America, Banker Occupied America.

02:00:39.000 We are talking about...

02:00:42.000 You know how you really beat the globalists?

02:00:44.000 Is you get yourself healthy so that you don't become a victim of the Fukushima radiation that now threatens us all and could be released at any time.

02:00:53.000 The winds would blow it all across North America within 10 days.

02:00:56.000 They would hit Alaska in as little as five days.

02:01:00.000 This is a very serious threat to us.

02:01:02.000 In fact, if you want to beat the globalists, just stop eating their junk food.

02:01:07.000 Stop eating their chemicals.

02:01:09.000 Get healthy so that you can not be a victim of the medical industry and the psychiatric drug industry and have to use antibiotics or get superbugs in the hospitals.

02:01:19.000 You can achieve victory, you can be a patriot, you can be a leader in your life by turning to nutrition.

02:01:27.000 I want to show you some of the nutritional products.

02:01:29.000 They got a shot right here of, uh, this is what Alex and Aaron are drinking, tangy tangerine.

02:01:34.000 This is, this is what I drink right here.

02:01:36.000 People ask me, what is that stuff?

02:01:37.000 That's actually living fuel, is what that is.

02:01:39.000 That's at livingfuel.com.

02:01:41.000 The Mahdi Fi Land, here on top of the tangy tangerine, you guys can pan up, perhaps, and get, there you go. 0.96

02:01:47.000 Uh, that is at the Infowars store, the brown seaweed extract.

02:01:51.000 Uh, we went out and bought this at H-E-B, just some fresh juice right there.

02:01:55.000 Some fresh juice!

02:01:57.000 Yeah, in fact, what is that juice?

02:01:59.000 It's a veggie juice.

02:02:01.000 It's a combination of carrots, celery, beets, and tomatoes.

02:02:04.000 Beets protect you big time.

02:02:06.000 And all the minerals and all these supplements, all these products, these are highly protective of the human body.

02:02:12.000 These keep you safe.

02:02:13.000 Dr. Saputo, your comments on nutritional victory in America.

02:02:19.000 Well, see, Mike, you're doing a great job here that no one else is much doing.

02:02:23.000 On Natural News and, of course, on this show, you're spreading information that the American public needs to know, and it's not being popularized.

02:02:31.000 The press is hiding a lot of this stuff.

02:02:33.000 I don't know if they want us to be sick or what, but I think a lot of it has to do with just the money that's in the industry that gives us fast foods and foods that are nutritionally deficient.

02:02:43.000 So I just I want to thank you so much for what you're doing here because it's the education that makes the change possible.

02:02:50.000 You know how we spend our money has a big effect on what business are going to come and be popular because money talks.

02:02:58.000 So we have a tremendous amount of power, just in the way we spend our dollars.

02:03:03.000 And I think the nutrition that we're eating in this country, in the standard American diet, is exactly that.

02:03:09.000 It's S-A-D for SAD.

02:03:10.000 When the USDA did studies on tens of thousands of people, and looked at the malnutrition in this country, even though we're overweight, it's stunning.

02:03:19.000 Because we get calories, but no nutrition.

02:03:22.000 This is what's so cool about the N4Wars team. 1.00

02:03:25.000 They are into nutrition.

02:03:26.000 Alex Jones gets it.

02:03:28.000 One of their key sponsors was EnerFood, or continues to be EnerFood.

02:03:32.000 Can we get a canister of EnerFood out here just to show that?

02:03:35.000 Alex is on tangy tangerine, and Aaron Dykes had a massive, incredible weight loss and health recovery on that product, which is high in minerals.

02:03:45.000 I practice nutrition.

02:03:47.000 You know, a lot of InfoWars listeners don't realize I used to be borderline obese, borderline diabetic, type 2.

02:03:53.000 I was hypoglycemic.

02:03:54.000 I suffered from chronic pain.

02:03:55.000 Dr. Saputo, you went through your own health crisis.

02:03:58.000 You got healthy with nutrition.

02:03:59.000 Tell us about that.

02:04:01.000 I almost died about eight months ago.

02:04:02.000 I was having a hip replaced.

02:04:04.000 You know, I'm a tennis player and I couldn't walk anymore.

02:04:07.000 So I had it replaced with a hip resurfacing and unfortunately trusted that everything that the doctors were doing was safe and of course it turned out not to be because I got poisoned by the cobalt that's in the hip replacement.

02:04:19.000 And that led to my just being as sick as I've ever seen anybody.

02:04:23.000 And I did my last will.

02:04:25.000 I made peace with God.

02:04:28.000 And I thought I was done.

02:04:29.000 And I couldn't get my doctors to understand what was going on because this was such a new concept.

02:04:34.000 And so what we did is finally convince somebody to put in a new hip, which made all the difference in the world about stopping the cobalt poisoning.

02:04:43.000 So, I'm doing well now, and a lot of it has been about eating the right foods, exercising intelligently, getting the right amount of sleep, all the lifestyles.

02:04:51.000 All right, well said.

02:04:51.000 Stay with us, Dr. Zaputo.

02:04:53.000 More on the other side of this break.

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02:08:07.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

02:08:13.000 Yeah, there is a war on for your mind, but you can be a victor in that war.

02:08:20.000 And we have been talking about how to achieve victory in the war on your nutrition and on your body, and also how to protect yourself from radiation that could be headed our way if things go wrong in Fukushima.

02:08:31.000 I want to make this point, and we continue to be joined by Dr. Len Saputo, who is a holistic nutritionist and healing doctor who's given us a lot of great information, and he's going to continue with us.

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02:09:50.000 Dr. Saputo, your thoughts on this subject.

02:09:52.000 Go ahead.

02:09:53.000 Well, you know, we take a lot of these things for granted and we forget about how much power we have.

02:09:58.000 The power of our dollar and how we spend our money is fantastic.

02:10:03.000 And there's a lot that we can do to change what manufacturers are going to sell.

02:10:08.000 They only produce products that they think that you'll be silly enough to buy if they're not any good.

02:10:13.000 But if you're smart and you're listening to what Mike is telling us here, there's a lot we can do.

02:10:18.000 I mean, even the business about water, you know?

02:10:21.000 I was listening to a commercial and they were talking about a water filtration system.

02:10:26.000 How important would that be if there's a nuclear disaster?

02:10:29.000 It'd be tremendous, because it filters out the cesium, okay, that's in particulate form, so that you wouldn't have that in the water you're drinking.

02:10:37.000 And that's, of course, one of the commonest ways that we get poisoned by the radiation, that's fallout.

02:10:42.000 That's right.

02:10:43.000 So you're right.

02:10:44.000 What a good point.

02:10:45.000 Well, and part of me wonders, too, if the feet-dragging on the part of the U.S.

02:10:51.000 government and the NRC, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, which could solve this problem.

02:10:55.000 They've got the funds, as Arne Gunderson told us in the last hour.

02:10:58.000 They could solve this problem in Japan.

02:11:00.000 Why aren't they doing so?

02:11:02.000 Maybe they want A nuclear catastrophe in America.

02:11:05.000 Maybe they want the population poisoned.

02:11:07.000 I mean, look at the vaccines.

02:11:09.000 Look at the fluoride.

02:11:10.000 Look at the GMOs and the collusion between the Obama administration, the USDA, and Monsanto.

02:11:16.000 Look at that.

02:11:17.000 It's like they are literally trying to kill Americans. 0.85

02:11:21.000 They probably welcome Fukushima, going into another dirty bomb outburst, another plume of radioactivity. 0.97

02:11:27.000 They probably welcome mass death across America. 0.52

02:11:30.000 And the only way that you can protect yourself from that death agenda, which is part of Agenda 21, let's just be honest about it, is to get healthy and make your body immune to the, not immune, but better protected against those things.

02:11:44.000 Go ahead.

02:11:44.000 You're so right.

02:11:46.000 If you take all those factors into consideration, it becomes obvious that there's a pattern that's forming here.

02:11:52.000 There's a picture that's being painted.

02:11:54.000 There's a puzzle that's being put together.

02:11:56.000 And you're seeing all these things that are not good for us.

02:11:59.000 And you'd like to think it's just about economics.

02:12:02.000 And some of it certainly is, because America is an economy.

02:12:05.000 It's not a democracy anymore.

02:12:06.000 It's corporate America that's running Congress.

02:12:08.000 Corporatization.

02:12:10.000 You're all right about that.

02:12:11.000 So, what do you do?

02:12:13.000 You have to take responsibility yourself, like you're saying, and make the right choices.

02:12:17.000 So, I'm on board with you there, Mike.

02:12:20.000 Hey, are you willing to share your age with people because you look healthy, you sound healthy.

02:12:25.000 I know how old you are because you told me the other day.

02:12:27.000 I think people would be surprised.

02:12:28.000 You want to go public with that?

02:12:30.000 You bet.

02:12:30.000 I'm 72 years young and I'm still playing competitive tennis.

02:12:34.000 You know, you 50-year-olds that aren't tournament players, you better watch out.

02:12:38.000 It really is It's good to be healthy and to be vibrant and to get engaged in something that keeps you having a purpose in your life.

02:12:48.000 If you do all those things, you're not going to get old.

02:12:50.000 Your mind's going to stay young.

02:12:51.000 Your body's going to stay young.

02:12:53.000 I love life and all the things that we're doing in our life here is so busy.

02:12:58.000 It's more than when I was 20 years old.

02:13:00.000 But it's great.

02:13:01.000 Well, wow.

02:13:02.000 You deserve a lot of credit for that.

02:13:04.000 Let's shift gears here, though, and talk about the CDC and the researching of bioweapons and even what I call weaponized vaccines.

02:13:13.000 I don't know if you agree with that term.

02:13:15.000 What do you think about the CDC, the Centers for Disease Contradiction?

02:13:19.000 Well, you're right.

02:13:20.000 I mean, we should just get rid of it.

02:13:22.000 It's like the FDA.

02:13:24.000 When they stop serving the people and they're serving private interest and there's conflict of interest all over the place, you have to get rid of it.

02:13:32.000 Except that's not what's happening.

02:13:33.000 In fact, it's not happening in a lot of areas where that needs to happen in this country.

02:13:37.000 I mean, in my view, we should be voting out all the incumbents because we can't trust them.

02:13:42.000 I mean, I would start over from scratch.

02:13:44.000 And I don't know how much of it's just a conspiracy, but a lot of it is pointing that way big time.

02:13:49.000 But we have to wake up as individual people and start taking responsibility ourselves for some of the things we're seeing.

02:13:55.000 No, the CDC is a disgrace to humanity.

02:13:58.000 I mean, look at Julie Gibralty.

02:13:59.000 We mentioned that on your show last time.

02:14:01.000 Mrs. Gerber-Ding? 1.00

02:14:03.000 Yes!

02:14:04.000 Dr. Gebharding is working now for who?

02:14:06.000 Merck?

02:14:07.000 And what does she do? 0.94

02:14:08.000 She runs their vaccine department.

02:14:09.000 Probably making a ton of money.

02:14:11.000 Why? 1.00

02:14:12.000 Because she did all the things she did to support the dumb ass swine flu. 1.00

02:14:18.000 Talk about a scam! 1.00

02:14:19.000 Let's be clear about this.

02:14:20.000 Dr. Gerberding was the head of the CDC.

02:14:23.000 She hyped up the scare story of the false pandemic of the swine flu and then she was rewarded with a top position in the multinational firm Merck running their international vaccine division.

02:14:34.000 Yeah, business is business, Mike, right?

02:14:36.000 Well, of course it is!

02:14:37.000 The CDC exists today to just scare everybody into thinking they have these diseases.

02:14:42.000 Like, we covered the whooping cough earlier.

02:14:44.000 There's another outbreak of whooping cough.

02:14:46.000 They don't tell you that it's the kids that got vaccinated that have the outbreak.

02:14:50.000 Those are the ones more vulnerable to whooping cough.

02:14:53.000 Well, it makes you wonder who they're serving, because it certainly isn't the American public.

02:14:57.000 I mean, there's so much money and conflict of interest involved here, and there's a conspiracy stuff too, you know?

02:15:04.000 We don't like to think in terms of conspiracies, particularly as doctors, we don't.

02:15:08.000 But it's kind of hard to ignore it, when you see all these things happening, that are painting this picture, this puzzle.

02:15:14.000 That we're seeing.

02:15:15.000 It's frightening.

02:15:16.000 Well, the, the, you know, conspiracy in some people's mind, that's a, that's a dirty word for some reason.

02:15:21.000 Like, what, two people never got together in a room and planned something?

02:15:24.000 That's a conspiracy.

02:15:26.000 That's, that's, that's called a meeting of the board at every major corporation in America.

02:15:29.000 It's always a conspiracy.

02:15:31.000 Are you kidding me?

02:15:32.000 It's global.

02:15:33.000 And you look at some of the bigger organizations, you know, Alex was talking about the Bilderberg stuff.

02:15:37.000 Holy smoke!

02:15:38.000 I mean, we don't, we plug up our ears and close our eyes and say, this is America, that can't be happening.

02:15:43.000 But guess what, folks?

02:15:45.000 This stuff is out there and it's happening.

02:15:47.000 Yeah.

02:15:47.000 We're just, we're asleep at the wheel.

02:15:49.000 Okay, let's talk about false flag attacks possibly using bioweapons.

02:15:52.000 I want your professional expert opinion on this.

02:15:55.000 The conjecture on this has been that in terms of the next false flag attack, it's got to be big, bigger than 9-11, bigger than Oklahoma City.

02:16:03.000 It's got to be huge in order for them to grab more power.

02:16:06.000 Some people speculate it might be a dirty bomb nuclear type of event.

02:16:09.000 Other people speculate it might be a bioweapons release.

02:16:12.000 My question to you, Dr. Saputo, is do you believe that there is bioweapons research taking place in America today that could be used, either in good hands or bad hands, against the American people to drastically reduce the population?

02:16:25.000 Well, we know that's happening.

02:16:26.000 That's no secret.

02:16:27.000 I mean, they're perfecting all kinds of biological weapons that can be used that cause disease.

02:16:34.000 And it's like they're doing it anyway.

02:16:37.000 It's like making a pandemic virus like they did in 1918 and replicating that. 0.89

02:16:44.000 Or making it even worse, to use as bio-warfare.

02:16:47.000 Of course that could be a problem.

02:16:49.000 And it shouldn't even be...

02:16:51.000 If people think that way, what are they thinking?

02:16:54.000 I mean, it's like... They're anti-humanists.

02:16:56.000 They are death merchants. 1.00

02:16:58.000 They are straight from hell, if you don't mind me using that term. 0.99

02:17:02.000 I mean, yeah, they worship death. 0.99

02:17:04.000 Well, I'm beginning to think that.

02:17:06.000 You know, I guess I've had kind of a comfortable life not thinking too much about that because I've just been involved in my work and in my sport and in my family.

02:17:16.000 And I don't like to think about things like that, but it gets to a point where you see enough of it. 0.96

02:17:21.000 You have to be silly. 0.98

02:17:22.000 You have to ignore it. 0.99

02:17:24.000 You have to almost close your eyes and ears because it's all over the place around us. 0.99

02:17:28.000 And if you don't put the pieces of the puzzle together, you're just being silly. 0.98

02:17:33.000 Look at that. 0.96

02:17:34.000 Well, that's exactly what we're doing right here.

02:17:35.000 We're putting the pieces of the puzzle together.

02:17:37.000 That's why I appreciate you joining us.

02:17:38.000 But yeah, a lot of people do live in total denial.

02:17:41.000 Denial is the worst epidemic in America.

02:17:44.000 It should be called, I don't know, American Denial Disease, ADD.

02:17:48.000 Probably have a psychiatric drug for that, you know?

02:17:51.000 Well, we don't want to think about that, because it seems like it's unthinkable.

02:17:55.000 And yet, when you see what's happening in this country, you know, we spend all this money on Goldman Sachs, we spend money on wars, and we know how the economy is built, and then we see people on the streets of our major cities that are homeless, that are vets from previous wars, or have psychiatric disorders because of things that have happened, and we don't come to their rescue.

02:18:13.000 What kind of a humanity are we turning into?

02:18:15.000 We have to start taking care of ourselves.

02:18:17.000 You've nailed it.

02:18:19.000 You've nailed it.

02:18:20.000 That is the question.

02:18:21.000 We've got to have a future in humanity where we have a philosophical foundation, a religious foundation, a spiritual foundation that respects life, that respects fellow human beings.

02:18:31.000 We've got to have morals and ethics.

02:18:33.000 We have technology and science without ethics.

02:18:36.000 We've got GMOs without wisdom.

02:18:39.000 We have bullets and bombs and nukes that can kill people, but we don't have consciousness.

02:18:44.000 Yeah, well, see, we haven't evolved.

02:18:47.000 What we have done is have revolution after revolution, because we get sick and tired of the system that's in power.

02:18:52.000 We have a revolution, new people come into power, they do the same damn thing that the one before did, and how are you going to ever make a change?

02:18:59.000 You have to evolve to a higher level of consciousness.

02:19:02.000 It was Einstein who said, you can't solve a problem at the same level at which it was created.

02:19:07.000 So you have to evolve to another level to do it in a different way.

02:19:10.000 And if you do that, you evolve instead of revolve.

02:19:14.000 And that's a concept that is the biggest one, because that's what we're lacking.

02:19:18.000 And we don't realize that we have the power.

02:19:20.000 Each individual has the power, but we're sitting on our fat butts going, oh, what the heck is happening?

02:19:26.000 Oh, I don't believe this.

02:19:27.000 Oh, no, there are no conspiracies.

02:19:29.000 Oh, no, trust the CDC and the FDA.

02:19:31.000 Come on, wake up, America!

02:19:33.000 You know, I think this is the key difference.

02:19:34.000 You and I, people like us, we want education.

02:19:37.000 We want knowledge and awareness.

02:19:39.000 Obama and his minions want re-education in a camp.

02:19:44.000 That's what's happening.

02:19:45.000 It looks like that's happening.

02:19:46.000 It's frightening.

02:19:47.000 Thank you, Dr. Saputo.

02:19:47.000 Yeah.

02:19:48.000 We're out of time.

02:19:49.000 Any last thoughts?

02:19:51.000 Hey, yeah, keep up the good work, Mike.

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02:24:00.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

02:24:21.000 Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in today.

02:24:23.000 The editor of NaturalNews.com, a frequent contributor to InfoWars.com in terms of articles and, of course, filling in here from time to time on the show, which is always a very fun thing to do because we have amazing guests.

02:24:34.000 I brought some interesting books and products for you just to show you some of what's out there and give you some commentary on it.

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02:24:44.000 This is really good reading.

02:24:46.000 This talks about the total criminalization of America and how these laws are being used and abused in terms of making innocent people look like criminals.

02:24:56.000 So that's a great book.

02:24:58.000 It's got an intro by Edwin Meese III.

02:25:00.000 Wow.

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02:25:04.000 He belongs in that book.

02:25:05.000 But in any case, it's a good book.

02:25:07.000 The next book is by Joe Nobody, who's been a guest here on the Alex Jones Show.

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02:26:12.000 Okay, enough of that.

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02:26:17.000 All right, next we have some unpasteurized fresh juice from Central Market.

02:26:23.000 Oh, look at this warning.

02:26:25.000 I don't know if you can even see the label, but it says, warning, this product has not been pasteurized and therefore may contain harmful bacteria that may cause serious illness in children, the elderly, and persons with weakened immune systems.

02:26:38.000 Now notice That if you sell unpasteurized milk, you get arrested, thrown in prison, raided at gunpoint, and given a million dollar bail in California.

02:26:50.000 But here in Texas, you can sell unpasteurized products just by having a warning label on them.

02:26:57.000 Gee, so why can't we have raw milk with a warning label and have our choice?

02:27:03.000 Okay?

02:27:03.000 The government doesn't want to give you a choice.

02:27:06.000 So they selectively outlaw the raw milk while they let Corporations like HEB sell raw juice just with a little warning label.

02:27:14.000 In fact, I think I'm going to drink this juice and see if it kills me.

02:27:18.000 Because that's what the FDA says.

02:27:21.000 You drink unpasteurized products, you might die.

02:27:24.000 I'm going to drink this on the break.

02:27:26.000 It's making me drool.

02:27:27.000 It's so good.

02:27:27.000 It's got beet juice in it.

02:27:29.000 Oh, it might protect me from Fukushima fallout too.

02:27:32.000 That should be a crime.

02:27:34.000 Alright, next item is an S.O.S.

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02:27:52.000 This is an infographic, highly informative infographic.

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02:27:58.000 The point of this is that it distinguishes between good science, which is a quest for understanding, and I am a huge proponent of good science.

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02:28:29.000 There it is on prisonplanet.tv, level 1 through level 5.

02:28:34.000 Stay there on that slide for a second.

02:28:35.000 I want to talk about level 4 dangers.

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02:28:44.000 GMOs, my friends, are self-replicating genetic pollution.

02:28:50.000 So it's different from chemical pollution.

02:28:53.000 Chemical pollution is like Corexit in the Gulf of Mexico.

02:28:56.000 That's bad, but it doesn't replicate itself.

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02:29:36.000 Science, when it's misused, is a danger to humanity, and that's the point of that infographic, so spread the word on that.

02:29:43.000 Thank you for helping to protect humanity.

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02:29:46.000 We're going to be talking to a raw milk mom under attack by the state of Minnesota. 1.00

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02:33:25.000 Of course, you're always going to find just the most breaking stories on infowars.com and prisonplanet.com.

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02:33:50.000 We're getting ready to go on to the topic of raw milk and the assault on the rights of American citizens in Minnesota, even the raw milk moms.

02:33:58.000 This is a whole new event.

02:33:59.000 I know we've covered this issue in California before and other states, Pennsylvania for example, but this is a whole new deal.

02:34:07.000 This is a new attack in Minnesota and a website where you can get great information on that is called thecompletepatient.com.

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02:34:55.000 Now, in this segment, we're going to be joined by Melinda Olson.

02:34:58.000 She is one of the four moms, I believe it's four, In Minnesota that has received a threatening warning letter from the Minnesota Department, is it the Department of Agriculture?

02:35:09.000 We'll find out.

02:35:10.000 A government department.

02:35:12.000 And they are warning her they're going to criminally prosecute her if she continues to allow her home to be used as a drop-off point.

02:35:20.000 For raw, fresh milk being delivered by a local Minnesota farmer.

02:35:23.000 And she joins us by phone today to tell us about this experience and how she's being threatened and how she's standing her ground and calling the bluff of the government to say, no, you're not going to take away our rights to choose our own healthy food.

02:35:37.000 Melinda Olson, welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

02:35:40.000 Hi, and thank you very much.

02:35:43.000 Hey, thank you for joining us.

02:35:44.000 Do you prefer to be called Mel or Melinda?

02:35:47.000 Uh, Mel works great. 0.99

02:35:48.000 Okay, Mel.

02:35:49.000 Alright, tell us what happened, what led to you receiving this letter, and what does the letter say?

02:35:56.000 Well, as you stated previously, I provide a space in my garage as a drop-off point and a picking up point for people in my community and my friends, family, neighbors to pick up food from a farmer of their choice so that it's a convenient place for them to be able to pick up.

02:36:16.000 It allows for people to get the food that they want to feed for their families in a convenient way.

02:36:25.000 I have to say, Mike, that actually it's ten individuals in Minnesota.

02:36:30.000 Ten separate people have gotten a warning letter from the Minnesota Department of Agriculture.

02:36:36.000 Okay, the MDA.

02:36:36.000 Oh, wow.

02:36:37.000 That's the acronym I was looking for.

02:36:39.000 Tell us what is in this letter because I've read it and maybe you guys can post it for PrisonPlanet.tv members.

02:36:45.000 It's linked from my story on that.

02:36:47.000 This letter specifically talks about criminal charges or investigation.

02:36:51.000 What does it say?

02:36:53.000 That's right.

02:36:53.000 After citing several statutes that the state or the MVA believes that I am in violation of, they state toward the end of the letter, After reviewing the evidence gathered during the investigation, MVA has determined that the issuance of this notice of warning is appropriate.

02:37:12.000 MDA warns that should you continue to sell or distribute unpasteurized or other foods illegally in the future, you will be subject to administrative penalties, criminal prosecution, or other enforcement remedies available to MDA.

02:37:27.000 Gunpoint raids!

02:37:28.000 Sincerely, I'm sorry?

02:37:30.000 I was interrupting with gunpoint raids.

02:37:32.000 When they say other, they mean raided at gunpoint.

02:37:32.000 That's what they mean.

02:37:35.000 That's what they mean.

02:37:36.000 Well, you know, Mike, there was a friend of mine who has the exact same role for a farmer in Bloomington, which is a town just a city south of me.

02:37:46.000 It's about less than 10 miles away.

02:37:49.000 And in June of 2010, she had armed officers with a criminal warrant investigating, you know, harassing, invading her home for two and a half hours for the exact Unbelievable.

02:38:03.000 Absolutely unbelievable that this is happening in America today, Mel.

02:38:08.000 I appreciate you having the courage to get on the air and describe the situation.

02:38:12.000 I've got a lot more questions for you, but overall, this is unbelievable.

02:38:16.000 You are Farmers are delivering food just to your garage so that your neighbors, other moms who want to feed their children fresh, raw, unpasteurized, wholesome milk, they can just pick it up because there's not a retail store anywhere.

02:38:30.000 You're just a drop-off point.

02:38:32.000 And the state of Minnesota is saying this is a crime!

02:38:38.000 Right, they've conducted an investigation and they cite me for distributing and selling milk.

02:38:45.000 Well, I don't ever touch anyone else's product.

02:38:48.000 I don't touch the money.

02:38:49.000 So I don't see how I qualify as a criminal for providing space in my home.

02:38:58.000 No, out of my garage.

02:38:59.000 No, no, of course not.

02:39:00.000 There'd probably be less of a penalty if you were distributing meth out of your garage.

02:39:06.000 I mean, the cops would probably just ask for a cut, and then leave you alone.

02:39:10.000 But boy, if you do food, oh my God!

02:39:12.000 Raw food, real food, farm-fresh food, now you're a criminal.

02:39:15.000 You're going to be fully investigated.

02:39:18.000 You told me on the phone the other day that family-based farming is becoming criminalized in America.

02:39:23.000 What exactly did you mean by that?

02:39:25.000 Well, I have in front of me, I have some charges against a farmer that I respect, and I have a lot of honor for him.

02:39:36.000 He's, I'm looking at the counts that he's facing.

02:39:38.000 Nine criminal misdemeanor charges.

02:39:41.000 Let me just read some of them.

02:39:43.000 Sale of improperly labeled frozen food.

02:39:45.000 Sale of unpasteurized milk.

02:39:46.000 Sale of adulterated food.

02:39:48.000 Sale of ungrated butter.

02:39:50.000 Sale of unpasteurized cheese.

02:39:52.000 Sale of food without a license.

02:39:53.000 And the last one, operation of a dairy plant without a permit.

02:39:57.000 What's this farmer's name?

02:39:58.000 They're criminalizing farmers for honest toil that has been the backbone of our country for 200 plus years!

02:40:07.000 Yes.

02:40:08.000 Yes, well that's it.

02:40:09.000 It's the war on America's farmers.

02:40:11.000 It's the war on America's family. 0.56

02:40:12.000 It's the war on America's culture.

02:40:14.000 The Obama administration tried to outlaw family farms where you couldn't have a 14-year-old son You know, the last count that he has against him is operation of a dairy plant without a permit.

02:40:25.000 routine, this is part of America's culture, and it's under attack, just as you say, Mel.

02:40:30.000 You know, the last count that he has against him is operation of a dairy plant without a permit.

02:40:35.000 And can I just say, that dairy plant is on his property.

02:40:39.000 It's private.

02:40:42.000 It's a milking station.

02:40:43.000 What he produces there is produced for private contractual relationships between consenting adults, people who have deliberately, thoughtfully, intentionally made a point to seek out products that are healthy for their families.

02:40:56.000 That's the kind of food that he's producing, and that's what is currently, if we continue on this trajectory, it will be against the law to produce.

02:41:04.000 No, this is outright, complete communist takeover of America's farms.

02:41:08.000 That's what it is.

02:41:08.000 It's total communism.

02:41:10.000 It's in America.

02:41:11.000 America has been taken over by the banksters.

02:41:15.000 America is being led by someone who isn't even qualified to be president.

02:41:19.000 America has been...

02:41:20.000 Occupied!

02:41:21.000 We are occupied and the communist takeover of the farms has begun.

02:41:24.000 It's happening in California, it's happened in Michigan, with the Julie Bass issue, the front yard gardening, the pigs, the feral pigs issue with Mark Baker at Baker's Green Acres.

02:41:34.000 It's happening now in Minnesota, it's happened in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, all over the country!

02:41:38.000 Farms are under attack.

02:41:39.000 It's outrageous.

02:41:41.000 But I want to get, there is a rally Monday morning at the Minneapolis courthouse in defense of this farmer.

02:41:47.000 Please, Mel, tell us about that rally so we can get some patriots out there to help support this farmer. 0.50

02:41:53.000 Okay, the farmer who's on trial in Minnesota on Monday morning at 9 a.m.

02:41:58.000 in Hennepin County, his name is Alvin Schlangen and he faces four counts of criminal misdemeanors, which each come with a possibility of fines and several, I think up to 90 days in jail for each count if he's found guilty.

02:42:11.000 And his charges are extremely similar to the ones faced by another farmer that I read to you just previously.

02:42:18.000 We have a rally in support of him at 7 a.m.

02:42:21.000 on Monday morning on the grounds of the Hennepin County government.

02:42:24.000 And this is a chance for Minnesota moms and others to join us and to take a stand and to say we will not comply, we will not back down, and we will not be intimidated or be caused to fear that the sourcing food for our families that we believe has integrity, is whole, is locally produced, lovingly raised, we will not back down from continuing to get those

02:42:55.000 Absolutely, good for you and good for the other moms who are standing up. 1.00

02:42:57.000 I want to encourage viewers to visit the website that covers this, that has more details, rawmilkfreedomwriters.wordpress.com.

02:43:05.000 I believe that's it.

02:43:06.000 See if you can bring that up, guys, there in the command console.

02:43:10.000 rawmilkfreedomwriters.wordpress.com.

02:43:13.000 And I know that they are covering this event.

02:43:16.000 This is a red alert call to all Patriots, farmers, every American in Minnesota who wants to help defend the integrity of America's culture, the right to access real food, be there Monday morning, 7 a.m.

02:43:31.000 The rally begins on the steps of the Minneapolis courthouse there in the capital of Minnesota.

02:43:38.000 Mel, what else is happening at that rally?

02:43:40.000 Do you know exactly what the plan is?

02:43:42.000 Are they unveiling a declaration of food independence or something like that?

02:43:48.000 That's right, there'll be a Declaration of Food Independence and it will be revealed, read aloud, and attendees in Minnesota and anyone else who would like to join us and would like to sign will be welcome and invited to put their signature on the Declaration of Food Independence stating that we will be taking back the right to foods of our choice.

02:44:09.000 Absolutely, well said.

02:44:10.000 Very well said, Mel.

02:44:12.000 Now, how are you going to challenge this letter?

02:44:16.000 Have you replied to the Michigan government, the communist tyrants who are threatening you?

02:44:23.000 Have you replied to their letter yet, or do you plan to?

02:44:25.000 What actions are you taking to protect your family against their threats?

02:44:31.000 Well, you know, it's funny you should ask.

02:44:33.000 In the immediate future, of course, we have the rally and we have a really exciting workshop.

02:44:37.000 I think one of the things, the strengths that we have here in Minnesota and around the nation is solidarity.

02:44:43.000 And one of the ways that we'll be showing solidarity is the rally.

02:44:46.000 And we're also building unity in a workshop.

02:44:49.000 And I'm really excited about that because it equips us, it inspires us, it will give us tools to use as we stand up for our rights.

02:44:57.000 And what I'm doing on a personal level You know, it's funny, Mike, but I find myself, like today especially, wandering around making sure all my doors are locked, making sure my back door is secure, and I find my eyes roving up and down the street wondering who's driving by.

02:45:15.000 I have happened to see, you know, local police force driving up and down my road, I would say, a little more frequently than usual.

02:45:22.000 Yeah, because you have the right intuition.

02:45:24.000 You have mother's intuition that the government is the criminal element.

02:45:28.000 You know that they're the danger to you, your family, your freedoms.

02:45:31.000 You are right to do that.

02:45:32.000 Lock your doors.

02:45:33.000 The government might be out there.

02:45:35.000 They're worse than the criminals. 0.99

02:45:37.000 They are the criminals. 0.98

02:45:38.000 They're taking away your rights, taking away your food, threatening you with ridiculous letters, destroying America's farms. 0.99

02:45:44.000 They have become the criminal communist element. 0.87

02:45:47.000 That's trying to take over America today. 1.00

02:45:49.000 They've got to be stopped, and this rally could be part of it.

02:45:51.000 So I'm glad you're on board with this.

02:45:53.000 Thank you for being here, Mel, for being on the air.

02:45:56.000 Well, you know what?

02:45:58.000 It's absolutely my honor to be able to stand up and advocate for the freedom to choose foods of our choice and to advocate for these farmers.

02:46:09.000 There's persecution going on here in the United States.

02:46:12.000 And I don't know how aware the public is that we have a group of people who are being vilified, who are being criminalized and marginalized, intimidated, and forced out of business.

02:46:24.000 And these are the people who have been the backbone of our country and what our freedom was founded on.

02:46:29.000 I have so much respect and so much honor for these men and these women who day after day continue to produce these amazing, nutrient-dense, wonderful foods.

02:46:41.000 And they do it, and farming is not easy anyway.

02:46:44.000 And they do it in the face of this daily persecution and the threat of intimidation, harassment, and criminalization of their efforts.

02:46:52.000 Absolutely.

02:46:53.000 I want to send a prayer out right now to a man who I know is listening, James Stewart, in California today.

02:47:00.000 He continues to face persecution in California, as well as Sharon Palmer there.

02:47:04.000 That's the Rossum food case.

02:47:06.000 I can tell you that there will be breaking news about the Rossum case next week.

02:47:12.000 I don't want to get into the details.

02:47:14.000 It will be shared on InfoWars.

02:47:15.000 I'll get the information over to Kurt and Paul Watson and Alex Jones.

02:47:18.000 There will be breaking information coming out.

02:47:21.000 To help those individuals.

02:47:23.000 We are being persecuted.

02:47:25.000 You're exactly right, Melinda.

02:47:28.000 This morning I milked goats before I came in.

02:47:31.000 I bought goats.

02:47:33.000 I guess I have a raw dairy operation on my own farm now.

02:47:36.000 I guess they could come in and arrest me for having a dairy plant without a license. 1.00

02:47:40.000 Because I milked a goat.

02:47:42.000 Right, did you know in Wisconsin, if you produce milk, it's my understanding that the current climate there, that if you produce milk and it's raw, you are not allowed to bring it to a private, like if you, let's say you have a farm in the country or a rural area, and then you have a private property in town, it's against the law for you to bring milk that you've produced yourself on your own property and drink it on your own property if you're inside city lines.

02:48:06.000 Unbelievable.

02:48:07.000 And if it's raw.

02:48:08.000 Wow, so now you're going to be arrested and imprisoned for food smuggling!

02:48:13.000 Your own food!

02:48:15.000 You're right.

02:48:15.000 I've heard the word fascist applied to these kinds of circumstances.

02:48:20.000 And it really is amazing.

02:48:22.000 I wonder someday if I will end up laughing about this right now.

02:48:28.000 It's so serious I can't.

02:48:29.000 But we're talking about milk!

02:48:32.000 Yeah, well, no, you're right.

02:48:33.000 Fascism is the right word. 0.92

02:48:34.000 It even reminds me of Naomi Wolf, who warned about the 10 steps to fascism.

02:48:40.000 And she's been a very, very popular speaker about those issues from the left side of the false political paradigm.

02:48:47.000 But she was right as well.

02:48:49.000 And this takeover of America's farms, this is one of the 10 signs, essentially, of the rise of fascism.

02:48:55.000 The corporate-controlled, oppressive police state government running theater security events all over the country to scare everybody into submission.

02:49:04.000 You know, Geraldo Rivera just went on the record and said he was raped by the TSA.

02:49:07.000 I don't know if that's the right exact word for it. 0.88

02:49:10.000 I don't know exactly what went on in his pants there.

02:49:12.000 But maybe it's not a rape. 0.78

02:49:14.000 Maybe it's a sexual assault.

02:49:15.000 But those are his words.

02:49:16.000 This is all coming out now about how oppressive and brutal and completely illegal the government has become.

02:49:22.000 That's right.

02:49:25.000 And it's up to us.

02:49:26.000 You know, it's really up to us to set the standard to say no and to take a stand for what we know to be our rights and our personal freedoms and our personal liberties.

02:49:38.000 The time is now.

02:49:39.000 Once it's gone, it's a lot harder to get back.

02:49:42.000 The time is now absolutely, Mel.

02:49:44.000 Once again, a call for everybody in Minnesota to join this rally.

02:49:48.000 Monday morning, that's May 14th, I believe, yeah, May 14th, 7 a.m.

02:49:53.000 at the steps of the Minneapolis, Minnesota Capitol Courthouse building.

02:49:59.000 There it is.

02:50:00.000 It's on screen for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

02:50:02.000 Mel, what other sources of information do people need to tune into?

02:50:06.000 Can you give us some websites or blogs where people can stay informed?

02:50:09.000 Or have I already given those out?

02:50:11.000 You know, you've cited the ones that will be most current and most up-to-date and provide the most thorough information.

02:50:18.000 Okay, alright, great.

02:50:19.000 Any final thoughts that you would like to add, Mel, about your experience or your advice to other moms who may be involved in raw milk for their babies and they're afraid of being threatened?

02:50:30.000 Well, first of all, I would say, uh, get rid of the fear, throw it out the window, because what you are doing is absolutely right.

02:50:37.000 It is righteous, and it is sound, and you have right on your side, so don't fear, and don't back down.

02:50:44.000 Well said, Melinda Olson.

02:50:46.000 Thank you for being on the show today, Mel.

02:50:48.000 Thank you very much.

02:50:49.000 Alright, stay with us, we'll be right back.

02:50:50.000 A lot more straight ahead.

02:50:54.000 Alex Jones Show, yeah!

02:50:55.000 We're here, we're coming back with a lot more.

02:50:57.000 Stay ahead, stay with us.

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02:54:14.000 It's not even over yet.

02:54:15.000 And if you think about it, I've got all these stacks of news on Alex's desk here.

02:54:20.000 We've only been able to scratch the surface.

02:54:21.000 We've covered maybe 10% of all the news that we could have talked about today.

02:54:25.000 There's so much more out there.

02:54:27.000 Some breaking issues that I've just got to touch on here.

02:54:31.000 Number one, you know Laura Presley is running for City Council here in Austin. 1.00

02:54:36.000 She is the pro-Ron Paul candidate.

02:54:39.000 She's the anti-fluoride candidate. 0.97

02:54:40.000 She's been a guest on the show.

02:54:42.000 For those of you listening in the Austin area, please get out there and vote.

02:54:46.000 Get out the vote.

02:54:47.000 We've got to get good people into office.

02:54:49.000 People who represent the people, instead of the corporate sellouts.

02:54:52.000 You know, this city gave a multi-million dollar tax bailout to Apple Corporation.

02:54:59.000 Apple Inc.

02:55:00.000 Like Apple needs money.

02:55:01.000 One of the wealthiest companies in the world.

02:55:04.000 So they took money out of the taxpayers from Austin, they just gave it to Apple.

02:55:09.000 That's insane.

02:55:11.000 I could talk a lot more about that.

02:55:13.000 Here's another thing. 0.93

02:55:14.000 Cop kicks pregnant woman in the stomach. 0.96

02:55:18.000 This is in Georgia.

02:55:20.000 An incident occurred.

02:55:21.000 This is, Steve Watson has this article on Infowars.com.

02:55:24.000 When Officer Jared Wheeler was called to the pregnant woman's home and he eventually kicked her, oh man, he kicked her right in the pregnant stomach area. 1.00

02:55:35.000 And she could not believe that a police officer would kick her right in the baby.

02:55:44.000 Oh, man.

02:55:44.000 He claims he didn't know she was pregnant.

02:55:47.000 But nine months pregnant?

02:55:51.000 How could you not know?

02:55:52.000 Right.

02:55:53.000 How could you not know?

02:55:55.000 Another thing is I'm going to be hosting InfoWars Nightly News tonight, so we got some big issues there that we didn't even get time for today.

02:56:04.000 Finally, another issue is GlaxoSmithKline, find over vaccine trials after 14 babies are dead.

02:56:12.000 This is in the Buenos Aires Herald.

02:56:15.000 Buenos Aires Herald, as we say in English.

02:56:19.000 BuenosAriesHerald.com.

02:56:20.000 GSK, find over vaccine trials after 14 babies dead.

02:56:24.000 Yeah, killing a few more babies, that's just the history of medicine. 0.73

02:56:29.000 What's unusual about that? 0.97

02:56:31.000 More vaccine trials, more evil adjuvants that destroy your brain and lobotomize you.

02:56:37.000 And then, yeah, there it is, I've got it up on screen.

02:56:40.000 Also, I saved a few minutes here because I want to offer some personal commentary about the Second Amendment.

02:56:49.000 And I haven't spoken out enough on the 2nd Amendment in the past.

02:56:54.000 And I want to be on the record with my absolute support for not just the 2nd Amendment, but of course the 1st Amendment, the 4th Amendment, all of these are very important, but none of them would be possible without the 2nd Amendment.

02:57:06.000 I am a firearms owner.

02:57:08.000 I have been licensed to concealed carry since 1996.

02:57:11.000 I've taken training all over the country for firearms.

02:57:14.000 I'm competent and I abide by all the firearms laws and regulations that do exist so I don't have any illegal...

02:57:23.000 You know, firearms, if there is such a thing.

02:57:26.000 I guess there is under current law, but I do abide by all the rules and I own firearms legally and I want to give out a message to those who maybe aren't into firearms, the rice yet. 0.99

02:57:39.000 You have no idea how many people are concealed carrying out there and thereby keeping you safe.

02:57:45.000 When you go out to the Walmart or the grocery store or the gas station, there are people all around you with concealed carry firearms.

02:57:53.000 People like me and others like me who are law-abiding citizens.

02:57:57.000 Many are former active-duty military.

02:58:00.000 Many are active or off-duty police officers.

02:58:03.000 Many are just intelligent, informed, patriotic supporters of America.

02:58:08.000 Who are into protecting innocent people and we carry firearms and by doing so we help keep everybody safe.

02:58:15.000 We're not trying to be cops.

02:58:17.000 We're just citizens who are informed and who understand the Second Amendment and who support it.

02:58:21.000 I am a very strong supporter of the Second Amendment and that's what's going to keep our country safe.

02:58:26.000 So keep it legal, man.

02:58:27.000 That's crucial.

02:58:29.000 Thank you for everything today for joining us.

02:58:30.000 I always enjoy hosting and watch InfoWars Nightly News again tonight.

02:58:35.000 The rebroadcast of this show begins now.

02:58:37.000 Thank you all.

02:58:38.000 Have a great day.

02:58:39.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

Alex Jones Show - May 11, 2012

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