Alex Jones Show - 20120712_Thu_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:09.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:11.000 You want answers?

00:00:13.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 We've got the footage up at InfoWars.com.

00:00:32.000 Video, cops tase man for refusing to ID.

00:00:37.000 That's a great headline by Watson, but it should be cops torture man for failure to ID.

00:00:43.000 I've seen court cases where judges have ruled the police can taser you to make you answer questions or urinate in a cup.

00:00:50.000 Well, what's wrong with Abu Ghraib, then?

00:00:53.000 You see, if we can morally be sold on doing things that we know are classically authoritarian, all of us are going to end up having this blow back on us.

00:01:05.000 And that's a major problem we face as a society.

00:01:08.000 It is Thursday, the 12th day of July, 2012.

00:01:10.000 2012, one of my old-time friends, Colonel Craig Roberts, a very interesting person, Oklahoma City bombing investigator, SWAT team commander, helicopter pilot, sniper in the Marine Corps in Vietnam, then in the Army, then a colonel in intelligence, worn a lot of hats, has a lot of connections then a colonel in intelligence, worn a lot of hats, has a lot of He was the first guy I ever heard, like 16 years ago, talk about the plan to bring in foreign troops, who actually had evidence of it.

00:01:37.000 Now that's mainstream news.

00:01:38.000 Like, well, of course foreign troops are going to fight the evil Americans. 0.97

00:01:41.000 I mean, Washington Post says it's needed.

00:01:44.000 Of course the Boy Scouts are trying to report on their parents and report them to the government.

00:01:49.000 I mean, that's patriotism.

00:01:50.000 Of course!

00:01:51.000 Of course! 0.96

00:01:52.000 Alex Jones told you about it 15 years ago, but he's still a coot. 1.00

00:01:55.000 It's all true, though.

00:01:58.000 Colonel Craig Roberts has got some breaking news.

00:02:00.000 He's going to be joining us.

00:02:02.000 And then we've got Hayden Perry, the CEO of Oxitec.

00:02:09.000 They're coming out with the mosquitoes that supposedly can help reduce dengue fever, a particular species.

00:02:18.000 Obviously I'm a large critic of this.

00:02:19.000 The plan is to release them inside of the United States, the lower 48 in Florida to begin with, and they carry a protein that sterilizes the The mosquitoes that they breed with.

00:02:33.000 The problem is, is that the company says no problem getting any of that DNA in you.

00:02:39.000 Even though, you know how a mosquito gets your blood and your plasma, right?

00:02:43.000 They inject you with saliva.

00:02:49.000 Or it'd be like trying to suck up a brand new malt where it's basically frozen.

00:02:53.000 You can't suck it up the straw.

00:02:55.000 That's the best kind of malt.

00:02:57.000 I got fat was drinking malt years ago.

00:02:59.000 I don't get to have them anymore.

00:03:00.000 And you can't seem to suck up the strawberry malt or whatever.

00:03:05.000 That's because it's so thick.

00:03:07.000 And there's coagulating agents, platelets in our blood.

00:03:11.000 And so mosquitoes inject. 0.96

00:03:13.000 They pump in a whole bunch of saliva.

00:03:15.000 So they sit there.

00:03:16.000 It then helps liquefy and thin your blood and then slurp.

00:03:21.000 They slurp up the goodies.

00:03:26.000 And so I want to have a little discussion with the CEO, who we appreciate coming on the show.

00:03:32.000 So that is the guest that we have joining us today.

00:03:43.000 We have a ton of other extremely important news, obviously, that we're going to be covering in great detail.

00:03:54.000 Bush is now putting a human face on African intervention.

00:04:00.000 Citizen Bush has his new assignment, put a human face on AFRICOM's military intervention in Africa, hugging little black children.

00:04:07.000 Of course, Bill Gates does that as well, right before they get paralyzed from the polio injection.

00:04:12.000 Also, a Z21 micro apartment scheme being beta tested in New York City.

00:04:19.000 The model is charge you more for less.

00:04:22.000 Jack taxes up so high and regulations that you live, like they do in many areas of Tokyo, in a coffin, basically, that slides out of the wall and has a TV set in it.

00:04:32.000 So they can just bombard you with brainwashing 24-7.

00:04:34.000 People are like, well, that's the new economy.

00:04:37.000 No, no, no, that's...

00:04:38.000 That's the economy meant to totally take control of our lives.

00:04:41.000 Charge us more for less.

00:04:42.000 That's the globalist, anti-free market, anti-expansion, post-industrial New World Order model, spearheaded by the Captain Control Freak-in-Chief.

00:04:52.000 Mayor, I want to ban your Guns Bloomberg and ban your milk products and popcorn and your Sody Pop, but have some GMO and have some gangbangers. 0.99

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00:08:02.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:11.000 The planned de-evolution breakdown of Europe, the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand has begun.

00:08:21.000 The United Nations and global social engineers are on record saying they want a post-industrial world where we're all made to be poor, except for tiny globalist elites that have diplomatic immunity.

00:08:33.000 We're now seeing the big banks get diplomatic immunity, GMO companies get diplomatic immunity.

00:08:38.000 This is the world government model.

00:08:40.000 A total police state where they all have immunity and we have absolutely no rights and are ruled over by paramilitary armies and robot fleets of drones and ground forces.

00:08:51.000 That's the MIT Public Plan, and it's all happening.

00:08:55.000 Big broadcast lined up for you today, but we see the trend emerging of this planned implosion taking place, while those imploding the society pose as the saviors, and while most the minions of the system actually believe they're doing good as they execute our downfall.

00:09:15.000 If we don't figure this out, as a society, 99.9 plus percent of us, it's not the 1% that's bad.

00:09:25.000 People making over, you know, $250,000 a year in the 1%, that's how poor they've made this country, even with inflation.

00:09:32.000 That's what somebody making $60,000 a year, you know, in the 70s was equivalent to somebody making a quarter mil a year, if you look at the numbers.

00:09:39.000 We used to be 4% of the world's population.

00:09:41.000 We had 50 plus percent of the money.

00:09:44.000 Now we're about 6% of the world's population.

00:09:46.000 We got about 35% of the money.

00:09:48.000 It's all being sucked out by design as the corporate media tells us.

00:09:53.000 It's our debt and we need to pay more taxes for austerity.

00:09:56.000 No amount of taxes or tickets or money or fines will ever pay off the debt because it was made to be so big, the derivatives predominantly, 1.5 quadrillion worldwide, 644 trillion according to Washington Post, that's a conservative number we've been signed on to, that there's no way to ever pay it back.

00:10:15.000 Because we don't owe it.

00:10:16.000 And it's designed to be the equivalent of a trillion pound ball and chain.

00:10:21.000 And the biggest ball and chain we can pull, even the strongest man, might be a thousand pounds.

00:10:27.000 But you can't pull a trillion pound ball and chain.

00:10:30.000 It'd be like tying a giant chain Each link weighing as much as an aircraft carrier around your little leg and then tying it to Mount Everest.

00:10:40.000 It ain't moving!

00:10:42.000 You're not moving one link the size of the aircraft carrier.

00:10:46.000 Okay?

00:10:47.000 I mean, when you pull back... I mean, by the way, that's not even an exaggeration analogy.

00:10:52.000 In fact, I don't even know if... I bet Everest weighs a trillion pounds.

00:10:57.000 Look up how much they estimate Mount Everest weighs.

00:11:01.000 I'm sure there's an estimate on that.

00:11:02.000 The point is, is that when you've got 1.5 quadrille, quadrille, and that's an old number.

00:11:08.000 A lot of estimates are it's at about two drill right now.

00:11:11.000 They take all the bay lot money and put it into, not fractional reserve banking, only the big six banks are allowed to do this.

00:11:17.000 They put it in and leverage it to infinity, or as close as you can get to it.

00:11:23.000 So, here is the trend emerging, and we're going to be talking about this with Colonel Craig Roberts.

00:11:31.000 Coming up, Chicago police sergeant, tribal warfare on the streets, total collapse basically happening there.

00:11:41.000 And that's the plan.

00:11:42.000 You take all the guns from the law abiding.

00:11:44.000 They follow the rules.

00:11:45.000 You have the state police throw the book at anybody caught owning a gun in the Chicago area.

00:11:51.000 Or if you're 87 years old, I see this all the time, and get sick and forget to renew your yearly gun card.

00:11:58.000 They're waiting to SWAT team, mainly old people, because they got sick, had a heart attack, whatever.

00:12:03.000 Their daughter didn't renew the card.

00:12:05.000 They take all the guns, arrest the old man, arrest the old woman. 0.81

00:12:08.000 A lot of times the old man dies.

00:12:10.000 The old woman doesn't know the rules. 1.00

00:12:12.000 They arrest her, throw the book at her, drag her up before a piranha-like jury that just hammers them to hell with pleasure. 1.00

00:12:19.000 Because that's the new America, ladies and gentlemen.

00:12:23.000 So how many metric tons?

00:12:25.000 Six billion?

00:12:28.000 Six trillion?

00:12:30.000 So see, Mount Everest only weighs 6,399,000,000 metric tons, and you've got to calculate that into pounds.

00:12:37.000 So see, when I talk about 1.5 quadrillion, 1,500 trillion, we're talking about trying to drag Mount Everest around, basically.

00:12:44.000 It's a good estimation there, because how many pounds go into a metric ton, and then you've got to times the six trillion.

00:12:58.000 So, how many pounds go into a ton, and then that times six trillion to round it off, round it down?

00:13:06.000 Point is, we're not dragging this debt around.

00:13:08.000 It's not our debt.

00:13:08.000 It's a fraud.

00:13:09.000 Our debt's $15 trillion the bankers have induced us into.

00:13:12.000 So you got that going on because it's a crime zone.

00:13:16.000 With MTV gangbanger culture, families have been gone for decades.

00:13:21.000 We're now two, three generations into no families.

00:13:24.000 General public being fed on.

00:13:26.000 Most people, government workers that have jobs. 0.98

00:13:29.000 And most of these gangbanger types, black, white, doesn't matter, can hardly even talk. 1.00

00:13:35.000 And it's just a collapsing society, scientifically crafted.

00:13:39.000 And then of course the culture, Viacom and all of it, exports that culture and makes that the majority culture for the young people.

00:13:46.000 When you put your child in a public school, even in many rural areas, you're sending them to learn how to have gangbangers three or four years older than them beat them up, Until they basically join their little club.

00:13:58.000 It's not even a gang.

00:13:59.000 You send your daughters to school so that the kids that have flunked four or five grades are now adults, can have sex with them, give them venereal diseases, and get them on opium shipped in by the U.S. 0.95

00:14:10.000 government. 0.96

00:14:11.000 But again, it's good to be in public schools.

00:14:15.000 I mean, I went to a wealthy suburb school of Dallas, and it was hellish.

00:14:22.000 Hellish.

00:14:23.000 I mean at the time I was having a lot of fun in big knockdown drag out fights with blood everywhere and going out with a different girl every week and you know all this but now I look back on it with horror and I barely survived it.

00:14:37.000 I would never imagine my children being in something like that and my parents were naive.

00:14:41.000 They grew up in the 50s so they thought hey we live out in the edge of Dallas nice you know area everything's gonna be fine.

00:14:47.000 So that's what you do.

00:14:48.000 There it is.

00:14:48.000 Chicago Police Sergeant.

00:14:50.000 Tribal warfare on the streets.

00:14:54.000 And it just goes into the total collapse of the society.

00:14:58.000 And continuing here.

00:15:01.000 Many California cities are going to cease to exist.

00:15:05.000 That is in the article via the LA Times.

00:15:12.000 And they go on to report how they will no longer exist.

00:15:16.000 Throughout the state, local governments are slashing services to avoid bankruptcy.

00:15:19.000 For some, it's too late.

00:15:21.000 And again, they raised taxes because they all invested in derivatives.

00:15:25.000 That was stolen.

00:15:26.000 And now they're told, you've got to raise taxes.

00:15:28.000 You've got to take houses. 0.99

00:15:29.000 You've got to write more tickets.

00:15:30.000 And then that implodes the economy, further depressing things.

00:15:34.000 So in many of these cities, they've laid off up to 75% of the police force.

00:15:39.000 And they openly announced in Michigan, California, many other states, that the 25%, 30%, 40% depending on the city, they're only going to revenue generate now.

00:15:47.000 So you have a purely predatory cops.

00:15:50.000 And they remind me of engineers the last 20 years who would get a six-month job training their replacements in India or China and then lose their job.

00:15:59.000 It's the same thing.

00:16:00.000 You're not going to have jobs either when they're done with you.

00:16:02.000 And, of course, California, when they passed the carbon tax, the final nail, Twenty-plus percent passed through the economy, and there's a giant exodus now as people leave the sinking ship.

00:16:16.000 The globalists have executed this with precision.

00:16:19.000 They're now going to buy it all up for pennies on the dollar, and then down the road in the next cycle, cut taxes.

00:16:28.000 See, they know when they raise taxes it implodes economies and reduces tax receipts.

00:16:33.000 They know when they've got police like piranhas out riding, you know, single mothers with four kids in the back of the car who's, you know, going bankrupt and about to go on welfare.

00:16:44.000 The cop's been told, you've got a quota, you get that money in.

00:16:48.000 But the system engineers have got computers and algorithms on record managing the implosion with precision and tweaking it.

00:16:56.000 They don't want to implode it too fast so you notice and get upset. 0.91

00:16:59.000 They just want to slowly, like a vampire, suck you dry until you're too weak to resist.

00:17:04.000 And then maybe they'll keep you around as a Renfield, you know, semi-zombie to serve them as a bureaucrat once you've been re-educated by the implosion. 0.99

00:17:13.000 Oh, it's so good to see them destroy everything.

00:17:16.000 It's going so well, too.

00:17:18.000 And it's going to spread. 0.86

00:17:19.000 It's going to spread all over the country as the parasites just spread and the huge corporate contracts. 0.90

00:17:25.000 Now, that's why you've been taught to salivate like a Pavlovian dog whenever you're shown military. 0.93

00:17:31.000 Oh, give up your rights!

00:17:32.000 Oh, I'm pro-military!

00:17:32.000 Military!

00:17:34.000 So now you can have the Army, Marines, National Guard, TSA, checkpoints everywhere, drones, surveillance.

00:17:40.000 Yeah, we're watching you.

00:17:42.000 Yeah, we're torturing people. 1.00

00:17:44.000 Yeah, we'll kill U.S. 1.00

00:17:45.000 citizens if we want. 1.00

00:17:46.000 Yeah, we're training to put you in re-education camps.

00:17:48.000 Yeah, we're training to confiscate your guns.

00:17:50.000 What you gonna do about it?

00:17:51.000 And a lot of yuppies go, well, I'm scared.

00:17:54.000 I'm gonna bootlick you. 1.00

00:17:57.000 And so nobody stands with the good military people to say no to it.

00:18:00.000 The yuppies have learned how to bootlick.

00:18:02.000 That's how they go up ladders in life.

00:18:04.000 So they just say, you know what?

00:18:04.000 We're going to fall over on our bellies to this.

00:18:06.000 The New World Order said, you bet you are.

00:18:09.000 That's why we're going to run you down and shut everything down.

00:18:11.000 And the yuppies say, hey, I'm going to play a mental game with myself. 1.00

00:18:15.000 I'm going to say that I choose to join it, even though you're not joining it, even though you're a chump. 1.00

00:18:21.000 And imagine that you're part of the winning team because you accept it. 0.94

00:18:25.000 Because you guys think accepting it and saying there's nothing you can do about it, you know, somehow makes you a winner. 1.00

00:18:30.000 No, it makes you a big, fat, cowardly loser. 1.00

00:18:34.000 So there it is. 1.00

00:18:35.000 Throughout the state, local governments are slashing services to avoid bankruptcy.

00:18:39.000 For some, it's too late.

00:18:40.000 But don't worry.

00:18:41.000 The federal government itself in receivership to foreign banks, where they openly announce we're slaves to foreign banks, who are the fraudsters, the Bernie Madoff, Ken Lay types.

00:18:50.000 Ken Lay created the carbon tax.

00:18:51.000 They're saying, hey, we're going to come in with more fiat money, and we're going to bill you out.

00:18:56.000 And the cops are like, look, we got a new tank from the Feds Free!

00:18:59.000 Taxpayer money, further bankrupting the country.

00:19:01.000 Oh, we got a new drone!

00:19:02.000 We got new squad cars!

00:19:04.000 We got this million-dollar decontam unit, where if somebody ever really got hit with nerve gas, nobody's gonna even be able to get near it to help them.

00:19:11.000 Just made up.

00:19:13.000 So, oh, here's the army with decontam.

00:19:14.000 By the way, next week's seminar is how to take on militias.

00:19:17.000 That's just the public.

00:19:18.000 PR camel's nose, dragon's nose, under the temp flap situation.

00:19:25.000 that we are dealing with here as a society.

00:19:30.000 And the implosion worldwide is accelerating by design.

00:19:35.000 I'm going to give you economic news when we come back.

00:19:39.000 Then we had a hack attack against InfoWars yesterday.

00:19:42.000 I have it from the computer company itself.

00:19:46.000 I'm going to read that email here on air.

00:19:48.000 Uh, which just shows we're doing a great job.

00:19:50.000 And we're also gonna get into the UN Gun Ban Treaty.

00:19:54.000 They're now admitting, yeah, it's gonna register and then confiscate your firearms.

00:19:58.000 But it'll be done slowly, so the yuppies like it.

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00:24:02.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

00:24:05.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:24:12.000 So in all the areas of the country where the globalists have their people in place, they're announcing they're going to make folks, the general public, go into tiny apartments that are like coffins, like they have in Japan, but raise taxes to the point where you're forced into the coffin apartments.

00:24:30.000 They're going to control and track everything you eat and do.

00:24:33.000 That's being announced.

00:24:34.000 They're going to ban you having firearms, but let criminals just absolutely run wild and have police in Chicago and New York.

00:24:41.000 I saw videos just this week.

00:24:43.000 Openly break into cars, steal your stereos, steal your money.

00:24:47.000 You walk up and catch them. 0.94

00:24:48.000 They get out and say, I'm going to kill you if you don't leave me alone.

00:24:51.000 In DC, the police, even in the Washington Times, pull up to McDonald's parking lots in uniform, owning their own wrecker trucks, on duty, and steal your car.

00:25:02.000 I don't mean just take it and claim they're towing it.

00:25:04.000 I mean they steal it.

00:25:06.000 And they own the big chop shops publicly.

00:25:08.000 No one can stop them.

00:25:09.000 They rule.

00:25:10.000 Total ruling.

00:25:11.000 Total demonic control.

00:25:12.000 Total evil.

00:25:13.000 Hell being released.

00:25:14.000 Hell opening up.

00:25:15.000 It's here.

00:25:16.000 California.

00:25:18.000 Ongoing.

00:25:18.000 Collapse.

00:25:20.000 Collapse.

00:25:20.000 Michigan.

00:25:21.000 Answer.

00:25:22.000 Hammer taxes up.

00:25:23.000 Answer.

00:25:24.000 Hammer code inspectors.

00:25:26.000 Hey, you're out of work.

00:25:27.000 You're living off your pension.

00:25:29.000 Hey, your shingles aren't right. 0.60

00:25:30.000 We're taking it.

00:25:31.000 I've got news articles on that.

00:25:33.000 Code inspectors, white glove inspecting, taking your property, hitting you with fines, and again, further bankrupting the economy.

00:25:41.000 That's the goal.

00:25:42.000 Just wreck things, drive out business, pay $22 billion to ship General Motors to China and Brazil.

00:25:49.000 You know, pay billions to ship jobs for solar systems to China.

00:25:56.000 Just whatever you can, destroy America.

00:25:59.000 Whatever you can, bankrupt the country. 0.80

00:26:01.000 Whatever you can, shut it down and shut it down now.

00:26:06.000 All stated public plan.

00:26:08.000 Just type in, carbon taxes, good to shut down economy.

00:26:12.000 Carbon taxes so you can't have more than one child.

00:26:15.000 In Europe, they're...

00:26:18.000 Jacobson was showing me the Economist magazine a few days ago.

00:26:21.000 It's like, yeah, in Europe, they're not having any kids.

00:26:21.000 I'm going to show it on air.

00:26:24.000 It's great.

00:26:25.000 Even worse than it was before because of all the new taxes.

00:26:28.000 Austerity is really great. 0.64

00:26:29.000 Shutting down humans.

00:26:31.000 Oh, it's so good the West is dying. 0.92

00:26:33.000 Oh, it's so good.

00:26:34.000 Everything's falling apart.

00:26:34.000 It's so good.

00:26:36.000 Oh, it's so good.

00:26:40.000 Continuing, Fed officials warn of looming crisis for economy.

00:26:46.000 The Federal Reserve?

00:26:47.000 Oh, they're to the rescue, thank goodness!

00:26:50.000 The Federal Reserve.

00:26:52.000 Maybe Bonnie and Clyde should have called themselves the Federal Reserve.

00:26:54.000 Then they could rob banks when the cops show up.

00:26:56.000 They go, Federal! 0.84

00:26:57.000 Federal!

00:26:59.000 I just changed my first name to Federal Jones.

00:27:02.000 And I just walk around going, I rule everything!

00:27:04.000 Federal Jones!

00:27:05.000 Everybody's like, Federal! 0.97

00:27:08.000 I mean, Federal Express could now start taxing us.

00:27:10.000 It's not Federal.

00:27:11.000 Federal Exterminators.

00:27:12.000 Federal Moving.

00:27:13.000 Just, if something has the name Federal on it, what do you do?

00:27:16.000 We should do a skit on that for YouTube, where somebody wears a shirt that says Federal, and people just, Oh!

00:27:21.000 Oh, Federal!

00:27:23.000 I mean, it's a private banking consortium, but that's okay.

00:27:26.000 That's alright.

00:27:27.000 Fed officials warn of looming crisis.

00:27:30.000 You know why I'm ranting and raving?

00:27:31.000 Because I'm angry about watching my beloved country get gutted one side or the other.

00:27:36.000 I'm freaking out every millisecond that I've been absolutely dead on, and then some.

00:27:40.000 It's worse than I even... I mean, it's all gonna happen.

00:27:43.000 The re-education camps, the mass arrests, the bioweapons being released, they're following their exact program. 0.88

00:27:49.000 I sit here in horror every day watching it all come true, and knowing we're gonna look back on this time as the good old days.

00:27:56.000 Just like I told you five years ago, and you're like, oh yeah, right.

00:27:58.000 It's going to get worse and worse until we just arrest all these people.

00:28:02.000 We either do that or it's over.

00:28:04.000 We're going to live just like they do in Chicago or D.C.

00:28:07.000 with criminal police ruling over us with, oh my God, this country.

00:28:12.000 I'm sorry though, everything's okay.

00:28:14.000 Oh, I'm sorry, here's USA Today.

00:28:17.000 Oh, oh.

00:28:18.000 Fed, let me stop being sacrilegious against them.

00:28:21.000 Fed officials warn of looming crisis for economy.

00:28:24.000 Hey, honey, the Fed's warning us that we never got out of that recession they told us we got out of.

00:28:30.000 It's a depression if we don't give them more money.

00:28:33.000 Well, I guess we better, Mabel, we better raise taxes. 1.00

00:28:36.000 I better pay more.

00:28:38.000 Thank goodness the Federal Reserve, Bernanke, What did the Atlantic call him?

00:28:43.000 They had him on the cover?

00:28:45.000 It said hero!

00:28:46.000 Just the word hero!

00:28:47.000 I mean, it's federal and it's a hero!

00:28:50.000 I mean, they said so!

00:28:53.000 Don't be an extremist!

00:28:54.000 Don't question it!

00:28:55.000 These are good people!

00:28:57.000 Doesn't matter you got all the Fed heads and people and public papers talking about in the 70s and 80s and 90s how they'd engineer this and have a world banking takeover and bankrupt everything and bring in Agenda 21 and it's all written in triplicate by every agency under the sun and all totally planned and public!

00:29:12.000 Let's just ignore that and call it conspiracy theory!

00:29:15.000 And let's not get upset about it, you know, we're all told.

00:29:17.000 Don't! 0.57

00:29:19.000 Don't get upset, ladies and gentlemen.

00:29:22.000 Oh, look, The Atlantic, since I covered this months ago, changed the headline to Bernanke, hero or villain. 0.96

00:29:26.000 I guess because it looks so ridiculous.

00:29:28.000 Because it was just hero before, but that's not the cover of the magazine. 0.84

00:29:31.000 Type in Bernanke on the cover of The New Atlantic.

00:29:35.000 Our Atlantic Weekly, or whatever they call it, it's a big neocon fake liberal site, and you're like, neocons aren't liberals.

00:29:40.000 Yeah, they are. 0.87

00:29:41.000 It's liberals, it's neocons posing as liberals, posing as liberals who were neocons, but really just banker mafia chiefs here to gang rape you and your family financially. 0.80

00:29:51.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

00:29:55.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:33:26.000 The God of the Rabbil Slave with a weapon. 1.00

00:33:29.000 Get the Gods disarm. 0.99

00:33:31.000 I want to be crazy, crazy like Alex Jones. 0.98

00:33:42.000 And yet having a gunshot without presumption to know what's going on. 0.99

00:33:49.000 Then I can throw bananas at the global clowns and hear aristocratic moans. 0.96

00:33:56.000 Thank you. 1.00

00:33:57.000 I wanna be crazy, crazy like Alex Jones.

00:34:02.000 I went looking one day on the internet just to see what I could find. 0.92

00:34:06.000 When I heard this talk show maniac just proudly speaking his mind.

00:34:13.000 It was really wild but the more I heard it made a whole lot of sense to me.

00:34:18.000 I want to thank you Alex for opening my eyes and helping the blind to see. 0.89

00:34:23.000 I wanna be crazy, crazy like Alex Jones In heaven and gumption without a presumption To know what's going on Then I can throw bananas out by global clowns And hear aristocratic phones I wanna be crazy, crazy like Alex Jones 0.91

00:34:46.000 All the talking heads on the TV screen 0.99

00:35:14.000 With an arrogance and fisting you too. 0.79

00:35:17.000 Talking about what's been going on around the world and here in our nation.

00:35:22.000 They all seem to turn like a pack of wolves when Alex goes on the air.

00:35:27.000 In spite of the facts, they launch their attacks and I just don't like the fact. 0.96

00:35:33.000 I wanna be crazy, crazy like Alex Jones.

00:35:39.000 I get cabinet dumption without a presumption that no one's a-goin' on. 0.98

00:35:45.000 Then I control the manners at the global clowns and hear aristocratic moans. 0.98

00:35:50.000 I wanna get crazy, crazy like Alex Jones. 0.99

00:35:55.000 I'm your Christian leader. 0.96

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00:36:13.000 Never mind my actual policies!

00:36:16.000 Just buy my rhetoric, buy my lies, because you're my slaves! 0.87

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00:36:47.000 And we are back, ladies and gentlemen.

00:36:49.000 My microphone quit working right at the end of the last segment, and we have a backup here.

00:36:55.000 Usually that happens when someone knocks it off.

00:36:57.000 They do voiceovers in here and breaks it and doesn't tell anybody, like myself, or I forget, and then the next day it doesn't work.

00:37:05.000 So we had a backup.

00:37:06.000 The last one we broke a few years ago was waiting in there, so we got the backup in during that break.

00:37:11.000 That's why we ran crazy like Alex Jones, because it was the first thing up there on the computer desktop to play after we realized the microphone is on the fritz.

00:37:19.000 So guys, let's send that one to get it repaired.

00:37:22.000 Before, you know, a year later, this one gets broken.

00:37:26.000 Or Murphy's Law, if we don't get it repaired, it'll get broken next week.

00:37:28.000 It's like, when it's our only microphone, then like the, you know, the little, what do you call them, gremlins, will go, ah, it's the only one!

00:37:39.000 And as soon as we turn the lights off here tonight, they'll go, ah, come up from underneath the table and, like Al-Qaeda does, the big threat, and will come and get us. 0.80

00:37:47.000 I think we should give up all our rights because of gremlin attacks, ladies and gentlemen. 0.77

00:37:52.000 Almost even more scary than Al-Qaeda, who publicly works for the Globalist. 0.85

00:37:57.000 Let me settle down and get to all the news here.

00:37:59.000 Okay, let me just settle down.

00:38:01.000 I got really angry by watching Europe implode, the U.S.

00:38:04.000 implode by design.

00:38:05.000 I'm going to get back into that in a moment.

00:38:07.000 But they did find the Atlantic Magazine cover.

00:38:09.000 There it is.

00:38:10.000 The hero.

00:38:11.000 It's just the hero, Ben Bernanke, of the Federal Reserve.

00:38:17.000 But also, the other headline is Rahm Emanuel takes Chicago and what a hero he is.

00:38:23.000 There's an article in there because we bought the magazine about it.

00:38:25.000 I mean, these are heroes.

00:38:25.000 He's a hero too.

00:38:28.000 See, the gangsters have taken over to such a level now.

00:38:31.000 That they are on all the magazines and they're heroes.

00:38:34.000 And what they're doing is heroic.

00:38:36.000 Stealing everything.

00:38:38.000 And telling you the IRS is going to make you buy their health care products.

00:38:42.000 And they're going to cut the quality of health care too.

00:38:44.000 And the President's going to legalize illegal aliens, even though he can't do that.

00:38:48.000 He did it.

00:38:49.000 And he's going to ship guns into Mexico and blame the Second Amendment.

00:38:51.000 And he's going to ship opium in publicly.

00:38:54.000 Well, that's just the way it is. 0.95

00:38:55.000 And if you don't like it, you know what Nightline and CNBC and MSNBC and CNN and Fox and everybody else says, and Rolling Stone and New York Magazine and basically Vanity Fair, you're crazy like Alex Jones. 0.95

00:39:12.000 I mean, if you don't like textbook tyranny with an icing of high-tech technocracy on it, You're a bad person. 0.81

00:39:22.000 So just remember, we're all bad.

00:39:24.000 I mean, we are bad.

00:39:25.000 We are the bad people.

00:39:27.000 And we're in good company.

00:39:28.000 FEMA does teach, and I have the footage in my film Road to Tyranny, that the Founding Fathers are terrorists and are bad.

00:39:34.000 And the police sit there in the room in Kansas City, in the particular video, agreeing and being told that they're good.

00:39:41.000 They have about like seven-year-old children, being told they've done good by the third grade teacher.

00:39:49.000 And, uh, we have all the training manuals right through today saying it.

00:39:53.000 And some police have woken up, you know, when you go and hear that George Washington's a bad man.

00:39:56.000 It's like an alternate parallel universe or something, but, uh, Thomas Jefferson though is even worse.

00:40:03.000 And, uh, you know, mom, apple pie, you know, Salon did a big article attacking Joseph Farah and myself yesterday, saying we're kooks, we're dangerous, we're crazy.

00:40:13.000 That, oh, there's a line where Jones says they're going to try to, you know, You know, outlaw people that support George Washington.

00:40:21.000 We had just been talking about a new federal report that police are being given saying that the founding fathers are bad and freedom lovers are bad.

00:40:31.000 Basically, it's saying the 4th of July is bad.

00:40:34.000 That article had gone viral.

00:40:35.000 It had been all over the news.

00:40:37.000 It had been starting with the Drudge Report last week when we wrote it.

00:40:41.000 By the way, we have another big Drudge Report link on the right-hand side down there today dealing with the Army and Air Force just spraying for mosquitoes.

00:40:48.000 You don't need local government anymore as things just got unplugged.

00:40:52.000 Hear me plug my headset back in, my earpiece back in.

00:40:55.000 But there is the article, and it's just like, oh, the Army, they're going to run checkpoints now for security.

00:41:03.000 They're going to be at the prom, the high school basketball game.

00:41:06.000 It's like, why is the Army here?

00:41:08.000 Well, they're just here.

00:41:09.000 Why are the Marines with sidearms in the back of a Humvee with a heavy machine gun in the back running a DWI checkpoint?

00:41:17.000 Oh, well, they're just here to help.

00:41:18.000 Hey, there's a car wreck down there.

00:41:20.000 You know at the corner of this highway and that and the army helicopter landed and they're cutting the people out.

00:41:25.000 Well isn't it nice they're down there cutting them out?

00:41:28.000 What are you against cutting people out of cars?

00:41:32.000 And so the acclamation happens where oh hey the CIA is down the street.

00:41:37.000 The CIA is now working with local police to identify threats.

00:41:42.000 Oh, but it's no big deal.

00:41:43.000 Oh, yeah, and the cops now are going to make you get out of your car and aim a laser beam at you that supposedly says if you're on drugs or not.

00:41:51.000 Ladies and gentlemen, they have, for 10 years or more, have ruled that lie detector tests are complete fraud.

00:41:58.000 They're only good to trick somebody who's lying into saying you've caught them.

00:42:02.000 It's only good for somebody that knows you're lying to convince you that they've proven you're lying so you'll break down.

00:42:07.000 They don't work.

00:42:08.000 They're total and complete frauds.

00:42:12.000 And anyone can learn how to beat one in about five minutes.

00:42:15.000 You just stay agitated the entire time.

00:42:19.000 That's one way.

00:42:19.000 You want to hear other ways to beat lie detectors?

00:42:21.000 And again, that's like beating a wet paper bag.

00:42:25.000 Usually they're used, even when you're innocent, to say, oh, the FBI technician, you know, the same one at the crime lab who'll set you up and send you to prison knowing you're innocent, says you're guilty when you're not.

00:42:38.000 That's what lie detectors are.

00:42:39.000 And now they're coming out with all these new high-tech ones where the cop gets out on the highway and, stand there, I'm gonna aim the laser beam at you, oh, it shows that your adrenaline is high, and it shows you're on some kind of narcotic.

00:42:53.000 By the way, and these quack machines from the military district complex looking for explosives in land of the free and home of the brave.

00:43:01.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

00:43:03.000 Oh, it's so scary, the terrorists, and then in 90 plus percent of the cases. 0.90

00:43:08.000 I'd say, I don't know, 96, 97, I mean there's some real terrorism.

00:43:12.000 It's totally staged and they get some drugged up shock therapy person on Halcyon amnesiacs on the plane to try to light the plastic explosives as everyone says they're drooling.

00:43:24.000 Light the underwear.

00:43:25.000 Drooling.

00:43:26.000 Light the shoe.

00:43:27.000 Drooling.

00:43:30.000 Drooling.

00:43:32.000 I mean, do they ever have some surveillance camera on me?

00:43:35.000 Whacked out of my mind.

00:43:37.000 Shock therapy.

00:43:37.000 I've disappeared for a month, and I'm running around like that big defense contractor was.

00:43:41.000 Remember him?

00:43:42.000 He got caught on surveillance, and they found him dead in a trash can, and they said, oh, he must have just died naturally.

00:43:47.000 That famous guy, I forget his name, that worked for Bush.

00:43:49.000 I was ahead of all these corporations and he's like saying they're after me and the Department of Defense is breaking in his house and they're chasing him around and then they kill him and oh the the the the the police are told oh he just died over there and was put in a dumpster.

00:44:03.000 Yes.

00:44:06.000 And you can see him in those surveillance footage, obviously he's been drugged.

00:44:09.000 And he's, you know, got out, he's running around with his shoes off, you know, his torn suit.

00:44:14.000 Nuh-uh, pal, no sir, no sir.

00:44:17.000 That's what they do, they electroshock you, give you a bunch of drugs, and then just pump messages in that the pain will stop when you do this.

00:44:24.000 And then they just release you like a wild animal to go off.

00:44:27.000 And then so there's the underwear bomber, the shoe bomber drooling, and they don't even have passports.

00:44:32.000 And there's a U.S.

00:44:33.000 State Department going, we need to get these men on the plane.

00:44:36.000 Please help us.

00:44:38.000 And the head of airport security is like, well, we can't do this.

00:44:40.000 They go, national security.

00:44:41.000 Make a phone call to your bosses if you want, here in Amsterdam or here in London.

00:44:46.000 Get him on the plane.

00:44:48.000 This is national security.

00:44:49.000 And they look over and the guy's drooling.

00:44:51.000 They go, okay.

00:44:52.000 On the plane.

00:44:54.000 I mean, this is the world we live in.

00:44:57.000 But side issue, I need to get back into the other news here.

00:45:02.000 Now there it is, Underwear Bomber was working for the CIA.

00:45:04.000 I mean, it's just, that's London Guardian.

00:45:07.000 Oh, every time.

00:45:08.000 Every, every time.

00:45:10.000 The guy making the bombs was CIA.

00:45:13.000 It's like, oh, when that got leaked, they went, yes, stunning that we were on top of it making the bombs.

00:45:18.000 That's how well we've infiltrated Al Qaeda. 0.76

00:45:21.000 Yeah, the Al Qaeda, you run. 0.61

00:45:23.000 And then they show the American people the sock puppet of Al-Qaeda.

00:45:26.000 Guys, I want to buy a puppet of an Al-Qaeda creature so I can sit here on the air with it actually and go, I will get you if you don't give me your rights up. 0.91

00:45:33.000 Oh no, I will then.

00:45:34.000 Does the TSA want to grope me and my family?

00:45:36.000 Yes, to keep you safe.

00:45:38.000 I mean, I really want to start... I've never been trained as a ventriloquist, but we grew up... I grew up with a... I'm trying to remember his name.

00:45:53.000 Pretty well known.

00:45:55.000 Magician lived two doors down from us.

00:45:59.000 And he would always come over when I had friends over.

00:46:02.000 So he'd also come over to my birthday parties.

00:46:04.000 He was really old, really nice guy.

00:46:06.000 And he would do magic tricks for us, but he was a ventriloquist.

00:46:10.000 And he'd talk into a potted plant or something and say, are you down in there?

00:46:15.000 Yeah, I'm down in there.

00:46:17.000 And I'd say, hey, you're talking out your mouth.

00:46:21.000 He goes, he goes, no, I know, I'm talking to him down in there.

00:46:24.000 I said, are you in there?

00:46:25.000 Yeah, I'm down in there.

00:46:26.000 So what I want to do is I want to get a little al-Qaeda puppet. 0.98

00:46:31.000 And then I can walk around the office and just when I show it to somebody, they just, oh, please, oh, God, take all my rights away.

00:46:38.000 It's going to have a little headdress on, like a white flowing Moses-like beard.

00:46:44.000 He's wearing a nightgown.

00:46:45.000 I really want to have one of those here.

00:46:48.000 I mean, I'm just sick of it.

00:46:49.000 The whole thing is a sick joke, ladies and gentlemen.

00:46:53.000 Okay, let me just digress here.

00:46:55.000 You know, I tend to never plug in the first hour of the show, or the third, or second for that matter, products, videos, things we're doing here at InfoWars.com, because I'm so busy covering the news.

00:47:07.000 But you know, you hear Mainline Talk Radio, you hear plugs almost every segment.

00:47:10.000 That's how you fund a radio show.

00:47:12.000 But we have the news websites, and we fund a lot of things with Add traffic there and we have the subscriptions for 15 cents a day.

00:47:19.000 You get a 15-day free trial at PrisonPlanet.TV and see the live radio show daily and also the nightly news.

00:47:26.000 Again, PrisonPlanet.TV.

00:47:29.000 And we also have some other, you know, ways that we're able to raise revenue, books, videos, t-shirts, things like that.

00:47:34.000 And that's what we're doing.

00:47:36.000 And I talked yesterday about how important it is to buy things like ProPure, 10% off, best gravity-fed filters out there at InfoWarshop.com or InfoWarstore.com.

00:47:47.000 We'll get you there.

00:47:49.000 We have a Yahoo shopping cart we've had for about 14 years, but we also have this 3D cart.

00:47:55.000 And that's where you go when you go to InfoWareShop.com.

00:47:57.000 It's a pretty big company.

00:47:58.000 They've done a great job for us, by the way.

00:48:01.000 And here is the customer service email we got yesterday, because we noticed the shopping cart was down for part of the day yesterday.

00:48:08.000 And it says, hi there, Matt.

00:48:10.000 We discovered that your start was the target.

00:48:16.000 of a D-O-D-D-O-S attack. 0.90

00:48:20.000 We were able to block the IP that was causing the issues and service has returned to normal.

00:48:25.000 At this point, everything should be functioning as expected.

00:48:28.000 We certainly apologize for the inconvenience.

00:48:30.000 If you experience any further issues, please let us know.

00:48:32.000 What a great company.

00:48:33.000 Yes, we know about the denial of service attacks and the slow loris attacks and the Easter Bunny attacks and all the rest of it, which the NSA launches itself against the United States, because it's not the NSA, it's the Banker Occupational Surveillance Criminal Network.

00:48:49.000 They launch Stuxnet themselves and say give your rights up and we've tracked it before.

00:48:54.000 It's the Pentagon and it's private corporations and they attack all our sites basically constantly.

00:49:00.000 And thanks to great hackers and people out there that have contacted us with tips and things, our great IT staff have been able to keep InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com up and running.

00:49:11.000 But know this, the system does not want you buying things like Dreams from my real father, Joel Gilbert, exposing Obama's real roots.

00:49:22.000 They don't want you getting the greater good, exposing vaccines or killing and maiming people, just a scourge.

00:49:29.000 They don't want you getting Pharmageddon.

00:49:31.000 They don't want you getting the Toronto hearings on 9-11.

00:49:34.000 They don't want you getting any of this information.

00:49:40.000 They don't want you getting indoctrination about the public schools, or Thrive, or a noble lie about Oklahoma City, or scientists under attack.

00:49:47.000 I mean, you know Google banned any firearms advertisements two weeks ago.

00:49:51.000 We talked to a sponsor that's a firearms company that's got awesome deals, by the way.

00:49:55.000 I don't know if I can mention their name yet.

00:49:56.000 We've got a bunch of firearms sponsors.

00:49:58.000 And they said it killed their business by 80% when Google said no more advertising.

00:50:02.000 And newspapers are now saying it.

00:50:04.000 This is the discrimination.

00:50:05.000 What the Nazis did to the Jews first, and others, was said you can't advertise.

00:50:09.000 And now you can't have your shop, and now we're going to knock your windows out.

00:50:12.000 Now we're going to send you to a ghetto for your safety. 0.99

00:50:15.000 This is what the Soviets did to the Ukrainians, and what the Communist Chinese did to the, you know, shopkeeper middle class groups. 0.79

00:50:24.000 This is how they do it.

00:50:25.000 So InfoWarshop.com.

00:50:28.000 Now I'm just going to plug a whole bunch more, since you think it's funny.

00:50:31.000 And they did hit us.

00:50:33.000 They did knock out some of our revenue.

00:50:36.000 But anytime I need to, by the grace of God, I can come on here and raise a million dollars by snapping my fingers from our great audience.

00:50:43.000 So you know what?

00:50:44.000 I was thinking about not even having a money bomb this year because I was going to try to expend the funds we've got hiring all these crew and expanding.

00:50:50.000 But you know what?

00:50:50.000 We're going to hire even more people and do even more.

00:50:52.000 That's it.

00:50:53.000 We're doing a 48-hour non-stop money bomb now.

00:50:57.000 And we're going to try to raise twice as much since you don't want us raising money.

00:51:02.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:51:03.000 What does freedom mean to you?

00:51:04.000 The freedom to choose?

00:51:05.000 The freedom to vote?

00:51:06.000 The freedom to worship?

00:51:07.000 How about the freedom to take control of your own future?

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00:54:21.000 It's so easy to blow up your problems.

00:54:25.000 It's so easy to play up your breakdown.

00:54:29.000 It's so easy to fly through a window.

00:54:33.000 It's so easy to play with the sound.

00:54:38.000 And Anyways, the point is, is that we constantly have huge attacks, small attacks, different types of attacks.

00:54:48.000 People spoofing us, going out as if they're us, trying to get us in trouble.

00:54:52.000 And it just shows you the fact there's a lot of jealous people out there.

00:54:56.000 But there's also, there's also, you know, media matters and folks saying we're going to infiltrate alternative media from the inside and destroy them.

00:55:04.000 And they're tax exempt.

00:55:06.000 And they're not going to lose their tax exemption because they work for the White House publicly.

00:55:10.000 I mean, they want to shut us down.

00:55:13.000 The system does not want you to hear this.

00:55:16.000 And the answer to that is to redouble your efforts.

00:55:18.000 See, we have power.

00:55:20.000 We have power. 0.99

00:55:21.000 The globalists are criminals.

00:55:23.000 They can all, like dominoes, if there's enough of an awakening, end up going to prison. 0.97

00:55:29.000 Like Ken Lay, Bernie Madoff, and others.

00:55:32.000 They had another big company like MF Global disappear 200 plus million.

00:55:36.000 The fiduciary holding it was JP Morgan.

00:55:39.000 The guy committed suicide if you believe that.

00:55:42.000 Let me get Max Keiser on about that.

00:55:43.000 I covered it the other night.

00:55:46.000 So this is happening.

00:55:49.000 And this whole system is this giant tottering Ponzi scheme and they want to take us down with it.

00:55:54.000 But we don't need that.

00:55:56.000 We don't want that.

00:55:57.000 And as we reach more and more people There are going to be more and more attacks.

00:56:04.000 And so just realize that.

00:56:05.000 And remember, it's not just buying books and videos to support us.

00:56:08.000 It's not just buying the t-shirts or getting a PrisonPlanet.tv membership.

00:56:11.000 It's spreading the word.

00:56:13.000 Who else is on XM 166, over 115 AM and FM stations, global shortwave, some of the biggest alternative news sites, well, the biggest after Drudge.

00:56:24.000 We're just like five, four, five times bigger than we are.

00:56:27.000 We're bigger than World End Daily now, bigger than Newsmax.

00:56:29.000 Look at the numbers.

00:56:30.000 And the point is, is that we're the best there is.

00:56:33.000 We know we're not that big.

00:56:34.000 We know we're not that effective.

00:56:36.000 That's why I'm trying to hire more crew right now.

00:56:38.000 Hire more reporters right now.

00:56:39.000 Hire more graphics people right now.

00:56:41.000 We're trying to expend our rocket fuel in the info war to really maximize the resistance and the awakening now.

00:56:50.000 It's as our information becomes more and more credible, because it's out in the open now, and people realize, wow, these guys know what they're talking about, that's when we get the credibility.

00:57:01.000 We've always had the facts, but now we're getting the credibility, we're getting on the stations, we're reaching out, we're getting in the news, we're becoming a news source more and more.

00:57:11.000 And all over the world, in Japan, and Russia, the Middle East, and England, and here in the U.S., every day, major newspapers use us as sources now.

00:57:20.000 And as that happens, folks, we're entering the real danger zone.

00:57:25.000 So pray for us.

00:57:26.000 Spread the word about InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, PrisonPlanet.tv, Twitter.com forward slash RealAlexJones.

00:57:34.000 We've got a bunch of fan Facebooks that we've taken over.

00:57:37.000 You know, they've got about a million likes together, but the biggest one by itself has got about 290,000 likes.

00:57:42.000 It's Alexander Emmerich Jones.

00:57:43.000 People wonder why it's spelled wrong, because Wikipedia has my middle name spelled wrong.

00:57:47.000 So the fan that set that up, it's spelled wrong.

00:57:49.000 And now, in a way, that's fine.

00:57:51.000 The system wants to have my middle name spelled wrong.

00:57:53.000 That'll just be more disinfo in their data systems. 0.85

00:57:57.000 You know, this stuff works two ways.

00:58:00.000 All right, I got Colonel Craig Roberts coming up.

00:58:02.000 I just wanted to get it out there to everybody to remember to support us, infowarshop.com.

00:58:08.000 But more importantly, there's all the great products I believe in and promote and use myself discounted.

00:58:13.000 And then the profit we make goes back into fighting the globalists and making this organization strong against attacks, hack attacks, lawsuits, wherever the case might be.

00:58:22.000 We've had frivolous lawsuits over the years.

00:58:24.000 They were always ridiculous and defeated.

00:58:26.000 It's just that you didn't have to deal with them. 0.98

00:58:28.000 We are moving forward, and never for libel or slander, it's always just, you know, made-up stuff like, Alex Jones is a blood-drinking lizard, we're suing you for it, literally, and I have to go deal with it.

00:58:37.000 Alright, we'll be right back, stay with us.

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00:59:47.000 Waging war on corruption.

00:59:56.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:00.000 Big Brother.

01:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

01:00:09.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:11.000 You want answers?

01:00:13.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:22.000 We're going to get my good friend Craig Roberts on in the next segment.

01:00:42.000 Getting back into the financial news here.

01:00:44.000 Fed officials warn of looming crisis for economy.

01:00:49.000 Well, thank goodness.

01:00:50.000 I thought everything was fine, they said, as long as we gave them trillions and more power and let them take over everything and take people's bank accounts without warrants.

01:00:57.000 I thought they'd take good care of us because they were good people.

01:01:01.000 Also, some on FOMC said more stimulus probably will be needed, which means more select trillions just to their friends and others, and more stimulus to move more factories to China.

01:01:15.000 That'll help.

01:01:16.000 Here's CNBC.

01:01:17.000 Spain deepens austerity under European pressure, raising taxes, cutting benefits, imploding the economy, and shipping all the money to the megabanks.

01:01:26.000 So they can then come over here from Spain, the big Spanish elites, King Carlos and Juan Carlos, and buy up our roads, which are illegal, but they allow them to buy up existing roads and put toll roads on it, which are then paid for with taxes to upkeep them, just the money goes to them.

01:01:41.000 It's a good system.

01:01:44.000 And continuing here...

01:01:48.000 Yield record in U.S.

01:01:49.000 Treasury sale.

01:01:51.000 Investors accepted lowest yields for 10-year paper in U.S.

01:01:53.000 Treasury auction.

01:01:54.000 That's because everything's falling, but they think the U.S.

01:01:57.000 is going to be the last empire standing.

01:01:59.000 So, all these governments are still buying into that.

01:02:03.000 Also, rising costs.

01:02:05.000 Again, I mentioned this.

01:02:06.000 Push California cities to fiscal brink.

01:02:08.000 Throughout the state, local governments are slashing services to avoid bankruptcy.

01:02:12.000 For some, it's too late.

01:02:13.000 Oh! 0.60

01:02:14.000 And now all over the country, from Rhode Island to California to Michigan, to even areas of Florida, they're having corporations come in.

01:02:25.000 And what the corporations are doing is raising taxes and saying there's no more city council, there's no more rights.

01:02:32.000 We do what we want, we take what we want, we own your city now.

01:02:36.000 It's like the old RoboCop, one of the RoboCop serials.

01:02:41.000 Private corporation comes in, bankrupts the city by design.

01:02:43.000 It's actually Detroit to take it over and then puts combat robots on the streets to replace the police.

01:02:49.000 That's all part of predictive programming because that is the plan.

01:02:53.000 And of course you know who gets the contract for the robots.

01:02:59.000 You're going to find out, though, all of you that serve the system, you're like, yeah, robots on the streets.

01:03:03.000 Yeah, watch.

01:03:04.000 Just like I told you 10 years ago, they'd replace, by 2015, almost the entire Air Force with drones.

01:03:09.000 It's now here.

01:03:10.000 And you notice that's all being announced to you right now.

01:03:13.000 And they're almost crashing into aircraft and are crashing on a weekly basis.

01:03:17.000 And it's like, they don't make a big deal out of it.

01:03:20.000 Sixty-something thousand get killed on the US-Mexico border.

01:03:23.000 It's back of the paper.

01:03:24.000 Because they don't want you to be scared or freaked out about that.

01:03:27.000 When, you know, thousands are dying a month in Illinois in gang warfare, it's just kind of back of the noose.

01:03:34.000 Because they've already gotten the guns there, so there's nothing else to take, so they don't want to demonize guns, you know, because they've already taken them.

01:03:41.000 So they don't make a big deal out of it.

01:03:43.000 Whenever They don't want you to know about something.

01:03:46.000 They just don't make it a big deal.

01:03:47.000 But then, oh my gosh, you got a better chance of dying from a honeybee sting.

01:03:51.000 Don't you want to give up all your rights and have cameras on every street corner and face scanners and license plate readers and TSA groping your family on the highways because... and the army running drills in your city because Al-Qaeda, folks, Al-Qaeda. 0.54

01:04:06.000 I mean, you got a better chance getting struck by lightning twice in one year, but I'm still telling you, it is scary and it's fun to get scared of this.

01:04:14.000 It is really, really, really fun to just roll around and shake in fear all day long.

01:04:21.000 And coming up, we're going to get into a host of issues, but were you surprised?

01:04:27.000 I guess the scope of the corruption is so great because the former FBI director was mooey corrupt, involved in all the different cover-ups, but he's come out and reported what we already knew, that the entire university hierarchy knowingly covered up the pedophile operation for many, many years. 0.86

01:04:43.000 Well, yeah, because the word is there on local news that they were pimping the kids out.

01:04:48.000 You just don't think Sandusky was raping little boys at high noon in the showers because he was the only one, do you? 0.99

01:04:54.000 This is an empire run by predominantly pedophiles. 0.98

01:04:57.000 We'll be right back. 0.98

01:05:02.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:05:03.000 What does freedom mean to you?

01:05:04.000 The freedom to choose?

01:05:05.000 The freedom to vote?

01:05:06.000 The freedom to worship?

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01:06:01.000 This is Alex Jones with five good reasons you should consider buying a solar power generator.

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01:08:10.000 Welcome, my friends, to another hour of worldwide broadcast in an attempt Thank you for joining us.

01:08:31.000 Coming up later in the hour, I'm going to get his take on all of this.

01:08:34.000 free market and who are monopoly men are establishing a planetary government run for and by mega banks who are seeking to establish a neo-feudalistic system of total control.

01:08:49.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:08:51.000 Coming up later in the hour, I'm going to get his take on all of this.

01:08:55.000 FBI former head investigation, former FBI director's investigation, says there was a 14-year cover-up of systematic sexual abuse by Sandusky.

01:09:08.000 Yeah, it's come out in the local news via the publication and radio host that first broke it.

01:09:15.000 We played those clips here that he was selling the kids.

01:09:20.000 And so they may be getting ready to charge the The folks at the college with cover-up just so they're all discredited because this goes into politicians, everybody.

01:09:30.000 And I'm going to get Colonel Roberts' take on that from his research.

01:09:34.000 Again, here's CNN.

01:09:38.000 Penn State leaders showed total disregard for victims' review fines.

01:09:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:09:42.000 Well, they didn't disregard them.

01:09:44.000 TSA doesn't disregard your child.

01:09:47.000 They target them.

01:09:49.000 We're also gonna get his take on new Homeland Security laser scanner reads people at molecular level.

01:09:56.000 And again, this is just more quackery.

01:09:57.000 It's like they've proven the lie detectors are just there to engage in fraud and was quackery.

01:10:03.000 Well, now they just have high-tech lasers that claim this and that. 0.92

01:10:07.000 And it's all part of all of our tax money that's been used to militarize the rest of the world coming back home here to the United States.

01:10:13.000 But first off, I wanted to get Colonel Roberts on Because every time I see a story in the news, like one of the people that responded, one of the, what was it, FBI agents that responded to the Shanksville, Pennsylvania crash.

01:10:29.000 In fact, guys, will you reprint me that article?

01:10:31.000 Said that she didn't see any bodies, yeah, because it wasn't the jet aircraft, and just saw a hole in the ground, but that she saw angels.

01:10:41.000 Very interesting.

01:10:41.000 She has a book out on that.

01:10:43.000 And Colonel Roberts died for about 10 minutes on the operating table years ago and had quite an experience.

01:10:50.000 So maybe at the end, I know he's told it, but he only comes on a few times a year.

01:10:52.000 I think it was a couple of years ago last time he told it.

01:10:55.000 Perhaps he'll recap that story for us.

01:10:58.000 here on the broadcast today.

01:11:00.000 And then we have popping in about 15 minutes in the next hour, Hayden Perry, CEO of Oxitec.

01:11:07.000 That's the GMO mosquitoes they're getting ready to release in the U.S. 1.00

01:11:10.000 He's agreed to come on, so that should be interesting from the U.K.

01:11:13.000 But first off, Colonel Roberts was asking my producer last week, we were setting him up for the show, if I knew what Blackstar, Operation Blackstar was, and...

01:11:22.000 And the answer is no.

01:11:25.000 But I want to get his take on that.

01:11:26.000 There's also Operation Zero One.

01:11:29.000 I have talked to some sources about that, and that's a program for...

01:11:33.000 Mass arrest, relocation.

01:11:35.000 But we don't need to speculate anymore.

01:11:37.000 It's now in NLE09, 10, and 11, the FEMA plans to use foreign troops here.

01:11:42.000 It's now admitted the public plan to use Canadian and Mexican troops in the John Warren Defense Authorization Act.

01:11:47.000 We've seen Washington Post headlines the last few years where, you know, generals asked by Congress to explain program of foreign troops.

01:11:54.000 We've seen Russian troops trained here.

01:11:55.000 It's all part of an acclamation.

01:11:57.000 And the first person I saw give credible evidence of this more than a decade ago ...was Colonel Roberts.

01:12:02.000 We saw a cooperative nugget and drills with foreign troops, but they could say, oh, that's for overseas.

01:12:07.000 No, no, this is for here in the U.S.

01:12:09.000 And now it's so overt, and now Army documents have been confirmed to be real.

01:12:13.000 The Army responded to one we released two months ago, saying, yes, there are re-education camps for political dissidents.

01:12:19.000 There's a new army document out, it's public, it's unclassified, for gun confiscation, they call it gun evacuation, work brigades.

01:12:29.000 So the fact that this is getting a lot more funding now, I mean by orders of magnitude, and is going so public.

01:12:36.000 That concerns me that they're warming it up, getting ready to go operational.

01:12:40.000 Armored vehicles being delivered everywhere, drones being delivered, threat fusion centers openly saying, yeah, we are spying on citizens.

01:12:49.000 They say the new threat isn't Al-Qaeda.

01:12:51.000 This was going on a long time ago behind the scenes.

01:12:53.000 But now they're fully shifting, saying, well, they have the new garbage man training where all the drills are. 0.98

01:13:00.000 It's conservatives they're after, and the victims are Muslims. 0.99

01:13:03.000 So it's like this new idea that the conservatives are terrorists hiding under every bed out there.

01:13:09.000 So I wanted to get Colonel Robert's take on all of this.

01:13:13.000 His website is riflewarrior.com.

01:13:15.000 I won't go over his whole bio, but I've known him for a long time.

01:13:21.000 He's a good friend.

01:13:22.000 We've spoken at conferences and things together.

01:13:23.000 He's also been a syndicated talk show host.

01:13:27.000 And he, of course, is a best-selling, what is it, number one New York Times bestseller.

01:13:31.000 He's written One Shot, One Kill, a whole bunch of best-selling books.

01:13:35.000 He was also a helicopter unit pilot, chief of maintenance as well there in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

01:13:41.000 He was SWAT team leader.

01:13:43.000 Before that, he was a Marine in Vietnam.

01:13:47.000 Uh, decorated and then after that he went into Army Intelligence, became a Colonel, uh, Lieutenant Colonel, and he joins us now, a little bit into the next hour, uh, and then our next guest is coming on to break down, uh, his view, his take, he hadn't been on probably six, eight months.

01:14:01.000 Uh, Colonel Roberts, always good to have you on, Craig.

01:14:03.000 Uh, right now, uh, I mean, you heard me give that preface.

01:14:08.000 From all the police and military sources you have, uh, what is going on right now?

01:14:13.000 Should we be concerned?

01:14:14.000 Oh, I'd absolutely be concerned right now.

01:14:16.000 You know, I'm seeing more people waking up and just, they're getting scared and they're getting angry.

01:14:25.000 They just, they know something's up.

01:14:26.000 They know something's not right.

01:14:28.000 They know they've got to renegade government.

01:14:30.000 They've got a rogue, out-of-control mess of federal agencies out there.

01:14:35.000 You know, they read reports.

01:14:36.000 Of course, the Internet, it helps a lot on getting a lot of information out, even though some of it may be disinformation.

01:14:42.000 You have to know how to weed through that and filter it.

01:14:45.000 We had to do that at the Intel shop.

01:14:47.000 We always had to weed through and filter everything to figure out what was true and what wasn't.

01:14:52.000 And we're seeing stuff, just bits and pieces.

01:14:56.000 You and I have talked about this before.

01:14:58.000 The way you work on intelligence is you take all these bits and pieces and you put them on the wall and you try to form a picture.

01:15:03.000 Are they connected together?

01:15:06.000 Do they mean anything?

01:15:07.000 And what goes with what bit of information?

01:15:10.000 And when we do that with all the stuff going on now, ever since 9-11, It's been building all the time toward something coming to a head in this country.

01:15:22.000 And now with this guy in the White House that won't even give his school records, his true birth certificate.

01:15:32.000 We've gone through all of this stuff before.

01:15:33.000 He won't do any of that.

01:15:36.000 And you've got all these things about the Department of Homeland Security buying all this .40 caliber ammunition, hollow point, that is not used by the military.

01:15:47.000 The military doesn't even use .40 calibers, and so why do they need, you know, hundreds of thousands or millions of rounds of ammunition?

01:15:53.000 Then we find out that now they're buying .223, which fits the M16 series, the AR-15 series, and, you know, what, was it 1.2, 1.4 million rounds of that?

01:16:03.000 That's not for target practice.

01:16:05.000 And we're seeing all of this information coming out about bringing certain troops back home into the country and training them for anti-terrorist training on domestic soil.

01:16:15.000 Well, if you're going to have a brigade of troops, who are they going to go up against?

01:16:20.000 We're not talking about a group of 12 Hamas terrorists down the street.

01:16:24.000 We're talking about a lot of people.

01:16:26.000 You've got all these things happening at once, plus these reports of Chinese equipment being stockpiled in Mexico and in Freeport in the Bahamas, which just happens to be the largest transshipment port in the world, is run by Hutchinson, Wampoa, and Costco.

01:16:44.000 Oh, they admit that the Chinese have taken over that island and are building all those ports and stockpiling weapons, and now they can't even release the new Red Dawn. 0.98

01:16:53.000 They had to re-edit it to where the Chinese government wasn't criticized. 0.78

01:16:56.000 I mean, that's how pathetic our country's gotten. 0.95

01:16:59.000 Oh, I know. 0.99

01:17:00.000 I know.

01:17:02.000 We've got all these different types of situations going on with computer viruses now that China could attack our systems. 0.61

01:17:10.000 Look what we did to the Iranian systems with that virus that we sent over to their nuclear power plant computers. 0.68

01:17:16.000 They could do the same thing here with our computers.

01:17:19.000 In fact, Monday, I think it was, 83,000 computers were supposed to shut down because of a worm that was in them.

01:17:25.000 That they've gotten off the internet that was redirected to Redirecting researchers to other websites.

01:17:30.000 It just goes on and on and on you know I teach a lot of Military police and civilian firearms courses and one of them is the concealed carry class for our state And I have had more people coming to these classes that are we're talking old people. 1.00

01:17:45.000 We're talking um Just a lot of ladies are coming in now. 1.00

01:17:51.000 They're scared.

01:17:52.000 They want to know how to use a gun.

01:17:53.000 They've never had a gun before in their life and they're 70 years old or maybe 75 years old and they want a gun in their house.

01:18:00.000 And they don't want a double barrel shotgun.

01:18:02.000 They want a pistol that has 13 rounds in the magazine and three spare magazines and a stockpile of ammo.

01:18:08.000 And I say, you know, this gal isn't buying this stuff to guard her cookies. 1.00

01:18:15.000 They're actually all over the place afraid of what's going on in this country.

01:18:19.000 Exactly, well they've had questionnaires.

01:18:22.000 This has even been in USA Today with 1 million guns was the previous record in one month.

01:18:27.000 Then it was 2 million, 3 million.

01:18:28.000 They had one month this year where 5 million guns through the Knicks got sold.

01:18:33.000 That's 5 times the previous record.

01:18:37.000 Uh, and when they questionnaire ask them, they say collapse and we don't trust the government.

01:18:42.000 So, so, you know, the so-called government, have you seen the clips, Colonel, where they now all over the news are announcing that America has been captured by foreign banks and that we're slaves and that it's a good thing? 0.99

01:18:53.000 No, I haven't seen that.

01:18:56.000 I'm not kidding.

01:18:57.000 I can play a clip right now for you.

01:18:58.000 What do you make of them saying that?

01:19:01.000 Well, I don't doubt it a bit.

01:19:02.000 I mean, our Federal Reserve System has been joined at the hip with the Bank of England and the Rothschilds since the very beginning in 1923.

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01:19:32.000 I said, would you do that?

01:19:32.000 He said, what?

01:19:35.000 And he says, no, you can't buy stock in that.

01:19:37.000 I said, how come you can have a corporation and you can only have 11 stockholders?

01:19:41.000 And he just, so he's been doing his research, he'll get back to And that's how you plant seeds.

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01:19:57.000 Everybody in their gut can feel it, so they're digging in.

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01:23:59.000 The Unions are big businessmen, and they're going out like dinosaurs.

01:24:10.000 They used to grow food in Kansas, and they want to grow down the moon.

01:24:18.000 I can see a time coming.

01:24:21.000 I can see the day coming when even your home gardener's gonna be against the law.

01:24:27.000 Yeah, they're in, uh, of all places, Tulsa, Oklahoma.

01:24:30.000 I saw two years ago where one of the city council people said, we gotta inspect gardens.

01:24:34.000 People might be growing marijuana in them.

01:24:36.000 And then it was Tulsa again, where they went and cut a woman's garden down in her backyard, an old woman, and charged her for it.

01:24:46.000 Hey, what's going on in Tulsa there, Colonel Craig Roberts?

01:24:49.000 You were a police officer there for a long time.

01:24:51.000 Well, I think code enforcement's gotten out of control.

01:24:54.000 Of course, you know, there's always two sides to every story, but in one of those cases, these people had let their lawn grow so high that it was a fire hazard and it scared everybody around them.

01:25:04.000 You know, if it had been me, I'd have gone over there and mowed it for her. 0.63

01:25:07.000 I mean, it wouldn't have bothered me a bit.

01:25:09.000 But, you know, when you live in cities, the closer you live together, the less you know each other.

01:25:16.000 You move out in the country, you meet all your neighbors in no time because they come by.

01:25:19.000 But the city, people, you know, they want to withdraw inside their house, that sort of thing.

01:25:23.000 And so they don't, unless you know your neighbors, you don't trust them, they don't trust you.

01:25:28.000 And pretty soon you've got them complaining.

01:25:30.000 If you leave your trash cans out, if your dog gets out, if your cat goes over to their yard.

01:25:34.000 Exactly.

01:25:34.000 We're losing human society watching television all day.

01:25:37.000 So you heard my question as we went to break.

01:25:40.000 Clearly we're in a design implosion so the Feds can come in as the savior.

01:25:44.000 I have a clip we're going to play in the next segment of the bankers announcing that we are their slaves.

01:25:48.000 They're saying it in all these different publications.

01:25:50.000 The TSA is groping people everywhere.

01:25:53.000 They're running highway checkpoints.

01:25:55.000 Are we being eased into martial law?

01:25:57.000 And how do the globalists plan on being able to have this takeover take place?

01:26:01.000 You know, there's about three or four different ways to look at this.

01:26:04.000 I've kind of war-gamed it around.

01:26:06.000 This country right now is on the verge of basically a revolution.

01:26:13.000 Just about anything could kick it off.

01:26:15.000 It could be an instigated set of race riots.

01:26:19.000 It could be food shortages.

01:26:21.000 It could be a breakdown of transportation so that nothing gets to the cities from the country.

01:26:26.000 It could be a lockdown on travel due to, you know, some terrorist activity.

01:26:31.000 It could be Islamic terrorism that set off to go, you know, with Iran.

01:26:36.000 It could be any type of societal breakdown, especially in the larger cities, to where they have to do something about it.

01:26:44.000 They declare martial law, whatever.

01:26:46.000 And, you know, we talked about General McCaffrey's statement to the CASCU course at Fort Leavenworth years ago, when he said that with the build-down of our armed forces, this was back during the Clinton administration, when they were the closing bases of the BRAC plan and all that.

01:27:00.000 He said with the build-out of armed forces being what it is, if we get committed in two or more fronts overseas, we will be forced to call upon foreign assets to police our streets, which he means U.N.

01:27:07.000 He said, "With the build-down of armed forces being what it is, if we get committed in two or more fronts overseas, we will be forced to call upon foreign assets to police our streets," which he means UN troops.

01:27:20.000 And we've been training -- you mentioned this earlier -- we have trained foreign troops in the past with a cooperative nugget down at Fort Polk, Louisiana, on a combat town that looks like downtown America.

01:27:30.000 It doesn't look like, you know, some third world country.

01:27:33.000 It has a church, it has a school, it has buildings.

01:27:36.000 But they now admit they plan to use foreign troops here.

01:27:38.000 I mean, that's in mainstream news now.

01:27:41.000 Yeah, and now we've got all these Russians training up at Fort Carson, Colorado.

01:27:44.000 Of course, we get different numbers, anything from 12 to 1,200 or whatever.

01:27:49.000 And it's interesting that Fort Carson at Colorado Springs isn't that far from Denver, and Denver is where you have Denver International Airport.

01:27:56.000 I call it Devil International.

01:27:58.000 And it's out in the middle of nowhere.

01:28:00.000 There was nothing wrong with Stapleton.

01:28:01.000 But they came in and they built that place, and they built an underground city under it that you can't get into.

01:28:05.000 You can't take a tour of it.

01:28:06.000 And they've got an extra runway out there that's buried under sand that you can clear with a... This is according to the Denver Police Department, by the way, that told me this.

01:28:14.000 They were out there when they were building this thing.

01:28:16.000 If they need another runway, they just run a snowblower over it.

01:28:18.000 They've got one that's a mile long, or however long it is.

01:28:21.000 Big, long one.

01:28:21.000 They can land anything up there.

01:28:22.000 Because you've got to have... Up at that altitude, you've got to have a longer runway because the air is thicker.

01:28:26.000 Sure, by the way, have you been to Denver lately?

01:28:28.000 I was there a couple years ago, and they had weird pyramids, and Anubis, and obelisks, I mean giant ones out on the side of the runway now, and it's gotten even weirder out there.

01:28:40.000 Well, you know, anybody can go on the Internet and look up Denver International murals and see those murals up there showing what looks to be a Russian stormtrooper with an AK-47 wearing a big great coat.

01:28:51.000 And a bunch of dead kids.

01:28:52.000 A bunch of dead kids in coffins.

01:28:54.000 And the thing about Columbine is on there before it happened.

01:28:59.000 And so, you know, while...

01:29:02.000 No, but I'm saying, last time I was there, I don't know if it's still there, you're flying in, there's giant gold obelisk, and, you know, 200-foot-tall Egyptian gods and stuff out on the side of the runway.

01:29:15.000 It's weird.

01:29:18.000 I didn't see that when I was there because I was at the terminal, but just the stuff at the terminal.

01:29:22.000 And if you start taking pictures of that stuff now, the security guards come and get you.

01:29:28.000 We're going to go to break.

01:29:29.000 We're a long segment coming up.

01:29:30.000 I want to get into a host of issues with you, but I want to talk about ways to, you know, try to turn this around.

01:29:35.000 But I agree with you.

01:29:36.000 The globalists know it's their takeover.

01:29:38.000 They're geared up for a counter-revolution.

01:29:41.000 But it just, I mean, I've war-gamed it from every angle.

01:29:45.000 It just runs from bad to worse unless you're a globalist sitting overseas watching it all happen.

01:29:51.000 We're on the march.

01:29:52.000 The empire's on the run.

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01:33:01.000 The Answer to 19.

01:33:08.000 1984 is 1776.

01:33:11.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

01:33:36.000 This is the point I'm trying to get at, Dr. Roberts.

01:33:42.000 Call you Dr. Roberts, because you are kind of a doctor of life.

01:33:46.000 But, speaking of Dr. Roberts, even Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, that's what I was about to say, is coming out.

01:33:52.000 And, you know, he was the former head of the Treasury for Policy.

01:33:56.000 You know, a high-level guy, all the big national think tanks, and he's had to come around to our thinking that, yes, it's a global, private, corporate, fascist government. 0.89

01:34:04.000 They're totally evil.

01:34:05.000 They're going to start World War III, and they do plan the mass arrest, re-education, all of it. 0.73

01:34:11.000 I want to play this clip and then get your take on it.

01:34:13.000 Here is the clip, one of the clips.

01:34:15.000 There are literally Hundreds of news articles, and I've shown them to you, Time Magazine, Newsweek, Financial Times of London, The Economist, all saying, oh, technocrats, unelected, run Europe, and they're gonna run us, and they're gonna turn the economy off, but it's really cool to be poor, and you go to Whole Foods, half the magazines are austerity, how much fun it is, austerity today, being poor is cool, having nothing's cool, but again, you're gonna pay a lot more for less.

01:34:43.000 It's a total organized Post-industrial system.

01:34:46.000 The Russians could have supplied sausages and stuff.

01:34:49.000 They wanted you to stand in line, folks.

01:34:51.000 It's about total control.

01:34:54.000 And then now they come out and just say, yes, we've been conquered by foreign banks.

01:34:58.000 We're their slaves.

01:34:59.000 Here is a clip.

01:35:00.000 And by the way, it's four minutes long.

01:35:02.000 All the guests agree and say it's good to be their slaves, except one.

01:35:07.000 So, so, we were crazy to say this.

01:35:09.000 Colonel Roberts was crazy to write books 15 years ago about it.

01:35:12.000 They have a radio show.

01:35:14.000 They even have the FBI investigating.

01:35:16.000 Now, oh, now it's just a fact, but we're still bad, though.

01:35:20.000 Remember that.

01:35:20.000 We're still bad people.

01:35:22.000 We're still extremists, the ADL and Southern Poverty Law Center.

01:35:25.000 You know, I see the latest police training manuals.

01:35:28.000 And they send them out and this crazy person thinks foreign banks are taking over and there's going to be a world government and there's going to be a carbon tax.

01:35:36.000 And then you open the newspaper up and it's all happening.

01:35:39.000 And I found the weird ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center stuff.

01:35:43.000 I shouldn't say this because they might adjust it.

01:35:45.000 I guess they're so lazy, you know, government paycheck types because they get government funding to do it.

01:35:49.000 You know, they're private.

01:35:51.000 That they won't even stop them.

01:35:52.000 I mean, they're just lazy.

01:35:52.000 They don't care.

01:35:53.000 They turn out like one article a year or something.

01:35:56.000 That it's actually waking police and military up because they're going, wait a minute, George Washington's bad?

01:36:02.000 Literally.

01:36:03.000 And then they open the newspaper up and all this is happening.

01:36:06.000 But here's that clip.

01:36:10.000 I think that right now, the question is, do we all work for central bankers?

01:36:15.000 That's what I want to address to our guest tonight.

01:36:18.000 Is this global governance at last?

01:36:20.000 Is it one world, the central bankers in charge?

01:36:23.000 Jim Iorio, you say we've got some downside here, a correction in the markets.

01:36:27.000 Fine.

01:36:28.000 But aren't we all just living and dying for what the central banks do?

01:36:32.000 Aren't we all just counting on the fact that there's a Bernanke putt, and that we won't go any lower than, say, 5% down from here?

01:36:40.000 Of course we are, because if we look at the economic data, there's nothing to get excited about in that.

01:36:45.000 So we, you know, yesterday we saw some reluctance for the Bernanke Fed to expand their balance sheets and pump more money in.

01:36:51.000 But the stock market knows that reluctance is totally different than not willing to do it at all.

01:36:56.000 And that's why we saw oil and oil implode.

01:37:00.000 The full clip's up at Infowars.com.

01:37:03.000 I mean, I know I'm ranting here, Craig, but what is it like to see all this coming, being laughed at by people on the force, then investigated when you were talking about Oklahoma City, and were sent to investigate it, and then now, and I know a lot of police and military, you told me last time you were on, come to you now and apologize, but, I mean, still, now we've been proven right, but what happens from here?

01:37:25.000 I mean, what is it like to hear things like that?

01:37:27.000 Global governance run by megabanks.

01:37:30.000 Well, yeah.

01:37:30.000 I mean, we already knew that was happening a long time ago, and it was building up to where it's going to be just one, you know, giant world bank that controls everything, and you've got the banksters running it.

01:37:42.000 But, you know, about what you were talking about a second ago, you know, a man is never a prophet in his own village.

01:37:48.000 But if you go to a different village, all of a sudden, you know, you're a genius.

01:37:52.000 You know, if I traveled around the country and did seminars like the one we did up in Kansas City, people say, wow, this guy really knows his stuff.

01:37:59.000 I've got to check into this.

01:38:00.000 But if you're in my own police department, or my own military unit, or even around the neighborhood, if I talked about any of this, they'd look at me and say, oh, crazy Craig.

01:38:09.000 He's lost it again.

01:38:10.000 He's off the ranch.

01:38:11.000 Even though you were speaking to crowds of thousands of people, syndicated radio show, they had no respect for their fellow American who was a veteran of Vietnam, the police force, the SWAT team, the helicopter, survived a helicopter crash, everything.

01:38:26.000 So young people try to wake up their folks and they say they get no respect.

01:38:30.000 They shouldn't feel bad.

01:38:31.000 You're a pillar of the community and they wouldn't listen to you.

01:38:33.000 That's right.

01:38:34.000 You know, there's only two types of birds in the human race, eagles and ostriches.

01:38:39.000 And hopefully the eagles are listening to your show because the ostriches won't do it and they don't want to hear any of this stuff.

01:38:45.000 I've got a brother-in-law, you know, who's a PhD, a genius, but he's very liberal and you try to talk to him about any of this stuff, it's like talking to the wall.

01:38:58.000 It's a doe in the headlights look on his face like, That can't be happening.

01:39:02.000 I don't believe any of it.

01:39:04.000 And you can't educate them.

01:39:05.000 So there are those ostriches out there that can't be educated. 1.00

01:39:08.000 We both have had people come to us saying, hey, I want to tell my neighbors, I want to tell my family, but nobody wants to hear this stuff.

01:39:14.000 Nobody wants to believe it.

01:39:16.000 How do I get this information to them?

01:39:16.000 How do I do that?

01:39:18.000 Well, you can't.

01:39:19.000 What you can do is you can drop a seed and hope it grows.

01:39:22.000 You can give them a suggestion, maybe give them a book and say, you ought to at least look through this book of whatever, you know, the material is that goes in this direction.

01:39:30.000 Like Killzone, my book Killzone, I've given that to people and they've read that and then they've come back and they said, what does the Council on Foreign Relations or the Rothschilds and the Federal Reserve Bank have to do with the Kennedy assassination?

01:39:42.000 And I said, okay, here it is, da-da-da-da-da, and they read that and they say, okay, where else can I get more information?

01:39:48.000 I'll say, well, okay, the Creature from Jekyll Island, you go there, you go, you know, and start naming off different books that they can just, just get one, read it, it'll lead to another one.

01:39:57.000 And that's one way to get information.

01:39:59.000 And it all fits together because when you're talking about a book written in 1971 like None Dare Call a Conspiracy that we sell at Infowars.com, you read this 40 years later, it all came true exactly as they said because they were going off congressional hearings and investigations.

01:40:16.000 I mean, when they ran the Federal Reserve through in 1913, Almost the entire population was awake.

01:40:22.000 Congress was pretty much against it.

01:40:24.000 They had to pass it in the middle of the night with a quorum of three senators.

01:40:28.000 I mean, you know, people used to know about this stuff.

01:40:31.000 Yeah, and there's a book that even predates that.

01:40:33.000 It was written back in the 1920s and 30s called Red Fog Over America by a Canadian named Cunningham.

01:40:41.000 He was an officer in the British Navy as a submarine officer in World War I, immigrated to Canada and went to work for the Canadian government.

01:40:48.000 He saw the unions being taken over by the Communist Party.

01:40:52.000 And then he saw the same thing happening in the United States.

01:40:55.000 And he said that the communists will call themselves socialists and they'll get into the left side of government, the left wing, the liberal side of government, and say they're socialists or that they're for the people and all this stuff, but they're actually hardcore communists being controlled out of Moscow.

01:41:13.000 And, uh, this is the 1920s.

01:41:15.000 And he said, this is all things that are going to happen, and most of it's already happened in Canada.

01:41:20.000 And then he gets into the socialized medicine aspect of it.

01:41:22.000 You know, they control your health, they control your records, they control everything.

01:41:26.000 And, uh, you're just another number.

01:41:29.000 People that say that this, uh, U.N.

01:41:31.000 treaty won't get our guns, it's written open-ended.

01:41:34.000 I've got the U.N.

01:41:35.000 quotes and articles up at Infowars.com today, even where the U.S.

01:41:39.000 ambassador It says in New York, right here on our own shores, you've got a Trojan horse.

01:41:46.000 They won't accept U.S. 1.00

01:41:47.000 firearms policy.

01:41:48.000 They want to take the decision away from the U.S.

01:41:51.000 electorate and undermine the Constitution.

01:41:52.000 And I've read the thing.

01:41:53.000 I've read over the treaty.

01:41:54.000 It says they register all our guns, and then the U.N.

01:41:57.000 can direct with the member states to ban any guns they want, and they're using countries that have already signed on.

01:42:05.000 To totally ban civilian ownership of firearms.

01:42:08.000 That is the goal.

01:42:09.000 And people that say this won't happen.

01:42:11.000 Hey, they'll do it and let that start the civil war. 1.00

01:42:14.000 Because the globalists don't care if a bunch of police and military get killed trying to enforce this.

01:42:18.000 But from my research, Colonel Roberts, you've been a police officer in the military, Marines and Army.

01:42:23.000 Am I correct in saying, I mean, if you've got 200 million gun owners, if 2% of them fought back, that's, you know, 4 million people.

01:42:31.000 I mean, there's no way, if the police and military try to engage in a gun confiscation, they might as well go jump off a cliff, and so they need to stand down on that order because it's unconstitutional.

01:42:41.000 Well, they're not going to.

01:42:43.000 That's the thing.

01:42:44.000 I've talked to officers, I've talked to state police, and even some feds, and they said, if that order came down, we'd quit.

01:42:50.000 We wouldn't do it.

01:42:52.000 So that's where the foreign troops come in.

01:42:55.000 You've got to have people who don't mind going up against Americans. 0.78

01:43:01.000 They could have ten divisions of Chinese troops in Mexico right now, and we wouldn't know about it if our media doesn't cover it.

01:43:08.000 And unless you know that they're there and can prove it and have pictures and all of this stuff, no one's going to believe it anyway until it happens.

01:43:16.000 But China has been landing a lot of material for years into armored vehicles, all kinds of stuff.

01:43:22.000 But we know the standard operation for these governments.

01:43:24.000 China admits they have 6,000 front companies in the U.S.

01:43:28.000 They're always talking about Russia, but China's the real issue, and the globalists have given them the Panama Canal, given them the ports in the Bahamas that you mentioned, and what they do is they go get businesses, set things up as sleeper fronts. 0.88

01:43:40.000 That's the model, 6,000 fronts.

01:43:43.000 Oh yeah, and you remember back in the 90s when they found that shipping container in San Diego full of AK-47s, hand grenades, and RPGs?

01:43:52.000 Yes.

01:43:53.000 And they found another one in Long Beach, and they found one down in Corpus Christi, Texas, I think was where they found one.

01:43:59.000 And they were popping up around the country.

01:44:01.000 Then that whole story died, and the excuse that we got was, oh, that smuggler's bringing stuff in for street gangs.

01:44:08.000 And I'm thinking, yeah, a lot of street gangs run around with anti-tank weapons.

01:44:12.000 You know, and landmines.

01:44:14.000 And meanwhile, the Global has had the police training to literally fight good old boys, libertarians, conservatives.

01:44:20.000 That's the whole posture is for that now, while meanwhile this country is just completely wide open.

01:44:26.000 Yeah, and oh, there's another aspect.

01:44:27.000 I got some information the other day.

01:44:29.000 I can't verify it.

01:44:30.000 I don't know anything more about it, but I'll just mention it, because maybe if the word gets out, it won't happen if it's planned to happen.

01:44:37.000 And the October surprise was leaked that the government is going to seize 401ks and IRAs and certain pension plans because of the national debt and come up with what's known as a GRA, Government Retirement Option.

01:44:58.000 I can't remember.

01:44:59.000 Oh, no, they've been talking about grabbing them and, quote, protecting them, but to protect them, they need to take part of it.

01:45:05.000 Yeah, of course.

01:45:07.000 But once you lose control of your own 401k, you can't get your money out of it. 0.99

01:45:11.000 You know, it's the guaranteed pension plan or some stupid thing that they're coming up with.

01:45:15.000 Yeah, I've talked to a lot of really wealthy people and famous folks and all of their top financial advisors are telling them there's going to be a total collapse. 0.94

01:45:22.000 I'm not saying that's going to happen, but look at all these cities going bankrupt everywhere.

01:45:27.000 Well yeah, look at California going bankrupt too.

01:45:29.000 I mean, that place is falling like... When you've got more people taking than producing, it implodes.

01:45:36.000 And that's what's happening to California.

01:45:37.000 It's happening to other states as well.

01:45:39.000 I think New York's high on the list.

01:45:42.000 When it becomes a welfare state, Like Churchill said, you know, it only works as long as you get money out of the other guy's pocket.

01:45:48.000 Well, you've got all these people moving out of these states and taking their businesses with them, and taking their jobs with them, and the only thing you've got left is illegal aliens, and people on welfare, and people who don't work, and the state can't support them anymore. 0.93

01:46:02.000 You know, these politicians get in there and they come up with these entitlement programs because that's their way of using our money to buy votes for them.

01:46:12.000 What do you make of Obama publicly saying NATO and the UN run our military and telling Congress to sit down and shut up, and Congress did, and shutting down power plants not owned by his buddies, taking dealerships away from people that didn't give him money.

01:46:27.000 I mean, it's just so incredible.

01:46:30.000 Legalizing the illegal aliens outside of law, fast and furious. 0.90

01:46:35.000 I mean, imagine what's going on we don't know about.

01:46:38.000 Right.

01:46:39.000 Right.

01:46:39.000 I mean, like I said earlier, it's out of control.

01:46:42.000 You've got a rogue element in the government, and they do whatever they want, and they don't care what the Constitution says, they don't care what the laws say, and if he can go around Congress with an executive order, he'll do it.

01:46:56.000 He just does his own thing, and he doesn't care what the right from the wrong or the rules are.

01:47:02.000 Why is he so confident?

01:47:04.000 Because I think, since he works pretty much for George Soros and a few other people up there, that he's not worried about anything and he doesn't care if he gets re-elected or not, because he could maintain power by declaring a national emergency and setting the election aside.

01:47:19.000 You know, we could see something like that go on.

01:47:21.000 And by the way, I mean, you've got Larry Summers in the Washington Post talking about this and total collapse, but then we get criticized for being pessimist porn dealers when all we're doing is analyzing what's really happening.

01:47:34.000 And by the way, we saw it a million miles away.

01:47:36.000 Why did you see this coming a million miles away?

01:47:39.000 When did you really start waking up?

01:47:41.000 Well, I started back in the late 1980s when I went to Delia Plaza for the first time and looked around and ended up going up into the Texas School Book Depository to the sixth floor and looking out and saying, there's no way in the world that Oswald did what they said he did from this position with that piece of junk rifled.

01:47:59.000 It just couldn't happen.

01:48:00.000 I even tried to recreate it myself.

01:48:02.000 I did it for a Japanese film company.

01:48:04.000 We took a Carcano.

01:48:04.000 Came over here.

01:48:05.000 We took it up on a deck overlooking a valley that was about the same distance.

01:48:09.000 We're shooting at 88 yards at a man-sized target.

01:48:11.000 Trying to get all those shots off.

01:48:13.000 And so on and so forth.

01:48:15.000 I'm a heck of a lot better shot than Oswald ever was.

01:48:19.000 And we couldn't recreate it.

01:48:21.000 And so anyway, I looked around and said, if the government lied about Kennedy's assassination, What else did they lie about?

01:48:28.000 And I started just looking at different directions of different things.

01:48:31.000 One thing led to another, and I found out about the Federal Reserve System.

01:48:34.000 I found out how they brought that in.

01:48:38.000 All kinds of... just one thing after another.

01:48:39.000 And so I wrote a book called Legacy of Dishonor, and it had to do with crimes and cover-ups of the U.S.

01:48:45.000 government from World War II all the way up to the present time.

01:48:50.000 And the Kennedy assassination was the first part of that, and then I got into other cases as well.

01:48:55.000 And I turned to my agent, and of course by then I'd published several books in New York City, through Simon & Schuster and Pocket Books and some of the others, Avon, and he couldn't sell that book.

01:49:06.000 It was the best book I ever wrote, and he couldn't sell that book.

01:49:09.000 He took it to ten different publishers, and finally one of the publishers at Simon & Schuster called me home on a Saturday night from his house.

01:49:17.000 And he said, you've got to get this information out to the American people.

01:49:19.000 People have to see this.

01:49:21.000 And I said, well, why don't you take it?

01:49:23.000 And he said, I can't.

01:49:24.000 I'd lose my job.

01:49:25.000 There's too much in there that the powers that be do not want out.

01:49:29.000 And we've got editors at every publishing house in New York City that make sure this kind of information never sees the light of day.

01:49:36.000 So I had to form my own company.

01:49:37.000 I formed Consolidated Press.

01:49:38.000 And I extracted enough out for the book Killzone.

01:49:42.000 And then what was left over became the Medusafile.

01:49:46.000 And, uh, so those two kind of go together.

01:49:48.000 That's when everything started happening to me.

01:49:49.000 And then, of course, the Oklahoma City bombing happened, and then PW-800 went down, and then we had the Amtrak derailment in Arizona, and it just, one thing after another, and I was getting pulled in all these different directions by different people to help investigate these things.

01:50:01.000 So that's, that's pretty much where all of that started.

01:50:05.000 By the way, we're going to put on screen right now, you guys can punch up my computer, people watching on PrisonPlanet.tv, because that sounded crazier earlier.

01:50:11.000 Radio listeners, just type in, uh, Egyptian statues, DIA, Denver International Airport, and there's, there's Anubis, again, over 100 feet tall.

01:50:21.000 And last time I flew in there, they had a whole bunch of these obelisks and weird, and I said, what's that about?

01:50:25.000 And the security people said, don't ask questions.

01:50:28.000 So I was like, why do you have Nazis killing children on the walls and Egyptian gods everywhere?

01:50:32.000 And they just, and they say, like, Colonel Robertson that don't ask questions.

01:50:36.000 So, I mean, whatever weirdness they're involved in out there, I just want to show people watching on PrisonPlanet.tv that they wouldn't think that we were crazy.

01:50:48.000 Well, these people are occultic.

01:50:49.000 They're Luciferians. 0.76

01:50:51.000 The Council of 13 is all Luciferian.

01:50:53.000 And Lucifer is their god.

01:50:55.000 They don't believe in Satan.

01:50:56.000 They believe in Lucifer, the god of light. 0.99

01:50:59.000 Well, the head of the UN Planetary Initiative, David Spangler, said, you will accept the Luciferian Pledge or we will kill you. 0.99

01:51:07.000 Once the world government is set up, you will worship Lucifer or you're dead. 0.99

01:51:10.000 Yeah.

01:51:11.000 And they think that's where they get their power.

01:51:13.000 And, you know, you mentioned earlier about, you know, all the blood in the streets that will happen if we have a civil war, revolution, a race war, whatever.

01:51:20.000 We've got to remember that these are the same people that want to kill off 80% of the human population.

01:51:27.000 So they don't care.

01:51:28.000 In fact, they like it.

01:51:29.000 Yeah, they think that's a great plan. 0.99

01:51:32.000 You know, they'd like us just to kill each other off. 0.99

01:51:35.000 Incredible. 0.98

01:51:36.000 Colonel Roberts...

01:51:39.000 Any other points you'd like to make?

01:51:40.000 Think about that in the time we have here with you today.

01:51:43.000 Things that have been, you know, burrs in your saddle that you'd like to relay to a couple million people.

01:51:47.000 The website's riflewarrior.com.

01:51:49.000 Your books are there.

01:51:50.000 It's excellent.

01:51:51.000 But expanding on your story, you know, that you told when, I mean, we got about five, six minutes on what's left of this segment because I skipped the break.

01:52:00.000 Describe to people the experience you had when you died at the hospital.

01:52:06.000 Because people from every other culture, even people that aren't Christian, have that same experience.

01:52:11.000 And if that doesn't get people's attention, I don't know what will.

01:52:14.000 For all these people that are selling out to evil because they're...

01:52:19.000 You know, these folks that think that you only live once and that there's no life after death and so what, just have fun, join the dark side, evil's cool.

01:52:28.000 I want to give you the floor here until we go to the break, breaking down what happened to you.

01:52:33.000 And I appreciate you telling the story.

01:52:34.000 I know you're tired of telling it.

01:52:35.000 Well, it was in August of 97, and I'd retired from the police department by then, and I ended up with colon cancer and metastasized and got pretty bad.

01:52:44.000 They put me on chemotherapy, and the chemotherapy is really, I think, what basically did most of the damage.

01:52:50.000 You know, a few months into that, I hemorrhaged internally and started bleeding out internally, and my stomach hemorrhaged, and the ambulance took me to the hospital.

01:53:00.000 And I got to the emergency room, and they put me in a room there, and this one doctor came in that had worked on me before.

01:53:08.000 I knew him, and he said, have you got a living will?

01:53:10.000 And I said, no, I don't have a living will.

01:53:12.000 I've got a regular will.

01:53:13.000 He said, no, you're going to need a living will.

01:53:14.000 That's because we're probably going to lose you tonight.

01:53:17.000 And he said, I said, you're not going to lose me, I'm going to be fine.

01:53:20.000 By then, my vision was fading, things were really going south, and they were hooking stuff up to me, putting tubes down my throat.

01:53:28.000 And one thing led to another.

01:53:30.000 He had already told my wife that there was no way I was going to make it through the night.

01:53:35.000 And they came in, they started putting that tube down my throat, and the next thing I knew, I flatlined.

01:53:40.000 And immediately, I mean instantaneously, I'm sitting in this nice, cool room.

01:53:48.000 It's dark.

01:53:49.000 I can't really see anything.

01:53:50.000 I just know that I'm in this area, you know.

01:53:52.000 I'm sitting down.

01:53:53.000 I'm comfortable.

01:53:53.000 I felt like I was 23 years old in perfect health.

01:53:57.000 I knew my guardian angel was standing right behind me.

01:54:00.000 And he was talking to me, but it was thoughts going into my mind.

01:54:05.000 It was like telepathy, you know.

01:54:07.000 I was getting all this information.

01:54:10.000 I knew I had come through some kind of a portal to my left, and there was one that would open up to my right that I would go through to go to the next stage, whatever that was.

01:54:20.000 And that was evidently where I was going to meet relatives and friends who had gone before me.

01:54:24.000 That was going to be heaven.

01:54:26.000 I also knew that in front of me, like in the floor out there somewhere, a pit would open up.

01:54:32.000 And if a decision was made that that's the direction I was going in, it was absolutely terrifying that that was there.

01:54:40.000 That was hell.

01:54:41.000 And I was told several things, and one of the things was, get off of the poison.

01:54:45.000 In other words, stop the chemo.

01:54:48.000 And I trust in God.

01:54:50.000 God will heal you.

01:54:51.000 And I had to change a lot of things.

01:54:54.000 I had to change my diet.

01:54:55.000 I had to change a lot of things I was doing.

01:54:57.000 And do things different.

01:54:59.000 And so on and so forth.

01:55:01.000 I did not care about this life at all.

01:55:02.000 It was like leaving the kitchen and going in the living room.

01:55:04.000 You don't care about the kitchen anymore.

01:55:06.000 It meant nothing to me anymore.

01:55:07.000 Time meant nothing to me anymore.

01:55:10.000 And then, all of a sudden, bang, I wake up.

01:55:13.000 I felt like I was gone about three full minutes.

01:55:18.000 It was 18 hours later.

01:55:20.000 And I'm in the ICU, and they've got, you know, IVs on me and stuff, and they paged the doctor, and he came in, you know, and he said, we lost you.

01:55:27.000 You flatlined.

01:55:27.000 He said, we were getting ready to unhook you when we got a heartbeat.

01:55:31.000 You were gone three minutes.

01:55:33.000 Of course, I wasn't conscious after that.

01:55:34.000 And I'm going from memory, you also, I mean, from memory, I think it happened a couple times, correct?

01:55:38.000 It was back and forth?

01:55:40.000 What was?

01:55:42.000 I'm just going from memory from the story.

01:55:44.000 So, so you were gone, and they got you back.

01:55:47.000 Yeah, they didn't get me back.

01:55:48.000 I was sent back.

01:55:50.000 They gave up.

01:55:51.000 I flatlined, and they tried to resuscitate, they tried... I don't know if they did the defibrillator, I don't know.

01:55:57.000 All I know is they were unhooking me and declaring me dead when all of a sudden they got a heartbeat.

01:56:05.000 That's when I was sent back because my mission here was not finished.

01:56:10.000 The aftermath of this, by the way, is I was sent back to the oncologist to start chemo again and I walked in on a Friday.

01:56:17.000 This was after I went through 30 days of physical therapy and a week and a half in ICU.

01:56:22.000 I finally got home and was able to move again after 30 days of physical therapy.

01:56:27.000 I couldn't even get off the couch.

01:56:29.000 I was so weak.

01:56:29.000 I was down to 160 pounds.

01:56:31.000 And I got, uh, went to see the oncologist, and he said, we'll start you on chemo on Monday.

01:56:36.000 Uh, be here at nine o'clock.

01:56:37.000 Bob Lodge says, I'm not going to do it.

01:56:39.000 I'm not taking any more of your poison.

01:56:41.000 And he looked at me, and he just, I swear, Alex, it was like a movie.

01:56:45.000 It was out of Hollywood.

01:56:46.000 His face got demonic. 0.96

01:56:48.000 And he had this, this horrible, hateful scowl on his face, and he growled, and he said, if you don't, you'll be dead in six months, and no one can stop it. 0.70

01:56:59.000 And I just stood up and I said, I'm going to be around a long time, Doc. 0.52

01:57:03.000 A lot longer than you.

01:57:04.000 I mean, because you abbreviated it.

01:57:06.000 Tell the part about like the data you were given and the fact that, I mean, like you could tell decisions were being made and that you were sent back.

01:57:15.000 Yeah, the decisions being made whether or not to take me on or send me back, the decisions being made to send me back, but I was told that I would meet people that I could talk to and tell them things that may not mean anything to me, but it would mean something to them.

01:57:29.000 And that also I would be able to tell when things were going to happen before they happened.

01:57:34.000 You know, just a bad feeling that something was going to happen in a given part of the country or to, you know, even on the highway I was driving down.

01:57:44.000 And again, you couldn't see the angel, but you knew the presence was there and that it had been there your whole life.

01:57:48.000 Right, right.

01:57:49.000 He'd been with me in Vietnam.

01:57:50.000 Everybody has one.

01:57:52.000 Every one of you people out there have a guardian angel, whether you want to believe that or not, and they're there.

01:57:58.000 And you just listen to them, because that's the good side of your conscience talking to you.

01:58:04.000 And you also have a demon that tries to follow you around occasionally, and he's the one that tries to influence you to do the stuff you know you're not supposed to do.

01:58:11.000 God gives us the choice of picking one or the other.

01:58:15.000 He gives us that choice.

01:58:16.000 You can pick anything you want, but later on you're going to answer for it.

01:58:21.000 And John Bowne, out there running the board, he told me this a long time ago, died and had the same experience, just remembers the, you know, the calm place, the angel, and then they got him back to life, or God sent him back.

01:58:35.000 Incredible.

01:58:36.000 We'll spend five more minutes with you, Colonel, on other tidbits.

01:58:38.000 We have another guest coming up.

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02:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

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02:00:28.000 Colonel Craig Roberts, RifleWarrior.com.

02:00:30.000 I'm Alex Jones of Infowars.com.

02:00:32.000 Craig, we've got five minutes left.

02:00:34.000 What else is on your radar?

02:00:36.000 What else are you looking at and investigating right now?

02:00:40.000 What do you see happening out in the future with the way things are going?

02:00:44.000 Well, you know, that's an interesting question, because I ask myself the same thing all the time.

02:00:48.000 It's kind of interesting that we have this 12, or the 12-21 of 12, where the Mayan calendar ends, and a lot of people are preparing for the end of the world, and this, that, and the other.

02:01:02.000 I think that psychologically, powers that be could use that to their advantage, you know, somehow.

02:01:08.000 I don't know.

02:01:10.000 You never know what these people are thinking.

02:01:11.000 They're so devious, you know, what their plans are.

02:01:13.000 But everybody says, that I talk to, all my contacts, they say, we think something is going to happen before the election.

02:01:22.000 We really think, especially if Romney shows in the polls that he's ahead, not that, you know, and you and I both know it doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes, like Stalin said.

02:01:31.000 So I don't trust the media being involved in our voting for, you know, any office or anything, because they can announce anything they want.

02:01:41.000 But if we did have an honest election, and Obama feared that he was falling too far behind in the polls, wasn't going to be able to get reelected, Well, there's no telling what he might try to pull.

02:01:55.000 As far as the finances, as far as the banks, as far as the food supplies, as far as martial law, we don't know.

02:02:03.000 But, you know, when his Justice, or Department of Injustice I'll call it, puts out all this information to law enforcement agencies saying if they got an NRA sticker, they're a terrorist.

02:02:12.000 If they're Republican, they're a terrorist.

02:02:15.000 If they're right-wing, they're a terrorist. 0.99

02:02:16.000 If they're a combat veteran, they're a terrorist. 0.72

02:02:19.000 If they were in Iraq, they're a terrorist, and so on. 0.97

02:02:21.000 You know, they're calling everybody a terrorist except themselves. 0.89

02:02:24.000 Because they're the terrorists. 0.89

02:02:26.000 Because they're the terrorists. 0.79

02:02:27.000 And they are terrorists because they are violating constantly the law and committing treason on a daily basis in our Congress.

02:02:33.000 And shipping guns to Mexico to blame the Second Amendment. 0.99

02:02:37.000 That's a false flag.

02:02:38.000 Oh, sure it is.

02:02:40.000 And all of our politicians in Congress won't do a thing about it. 0.90

02:02:44.000 They sit on their hands and they're just a bunch of weak sisters. 1.00

02:02:46.000 You know, they can teach this guy, but they won't.

02:02:50.000 So, you know, who knows?

02:02:51.000 Well, Romney won't even criticize the healthcare thing now.

02:02:54.000 He's saying, oh, it's not a tax, it's a penalty.

02:02:57.000 And the word is more and more, he is going to basically win, but they're going to try to steal it.

02:03:01.000 And then he knows just to sit down and take it, because he's bought and paid for by the same interests.

02:03:05.000 But, you know, I never believe in lesser of two evils.

02:03:07.000 But man, I got to tell you, things are moving at warp speed under Obama.

02:03:12.000 Oh yeah.

02:03:13.000 Every day is a new awakening of something that breaks loose.

02:03:19.000 The feeling all the way across this country in general is that there's a storm on the horizon and they can already see the lightning.

02:03:27.000 Exactly.

02:03:27.000 Wow.

02:03:28.000 So how do we avert a civil war, but at the same time we can't just become slaves?

02:03:34.000 I don't think we're going to have a civil war.

02:03:36.000 Um, you might have pockets of rebellion, but there's no communications, there's no groups, there's no leaders, there's no movement, so to speak.

02:03:45.000 You've got everybody wanting to take care of their families or their own little neighborhood or whatever, and that's just about as far as it goes.

02:03:51.000 But what happens when they bring Blue Hats in to come out and start kicking people's doors in, then something might get organized. 0.98

02:03:58.000 And that's why they've got all the army brigades, which they admit in the John Warner Defends Other Nations Act to go after the states.

02:04:04.000 But that's not going to work.

02:04:05.000 That's going to unify people if they try that.

02:04:07.000 Well, sure.

02:04:08.000 It's never worked anywhere.

02:04:10.000 But they don't care.

02:04:12.000 You know, they'll try it because they're going to be someplace else sitting it out anyway.

02:04:15.000 They're not going to be here.

02:04:17.000 So, you know, we're just going to have to wait and see what unfolds.

02:04:22.000 And it could be a financial collapse.

02:04:24.000 It could be devaluation of the dollar.

02:04:25.000 It could be China calling in their debt.

02:04:27.000 World War III, they're trying to get the Russians in a fight.

02:04:30.000 Well, yeah, you know, attacks on Iran by Israel and we've got to pick sides.

02:04:33.000 I mean, it could be a lot of things.

02:04:35.000 You know, with Obama siding with the PLO and the, you know, all those Middle Eastern terrorist organizations.

02:04:42.000 Al-Qaeda!

02:04:43.000 They're using Al-Qaeda! 0.95

02:04:44.000 Well, yeah, I mean, you've got Hamas, you've got PLO, you've got all those different organizations that crop up overnight.

02:04:53.000 Stay there, Craig.

02:04:54.000 I want to see what's happening with this next guest.

02:04:55.000 I want to get your take on them openly using Al-Qaeda in Libya and Syria now, just briefly.

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02:08:17.000 Okay, we've got the CEO from the GMO Mosquito Company joining us here in just a few minutes, but I want to get Colonel Craig Roberts of RifleWarrior.com, best-selling author, researcher, retired police officer, helicopter pilot, all that, on with us to give us his take.

02:08:33.000 Also Army Intelligence His take on Obama and the globalists in NATO, saying that the military is under their command now, Congress going along with it, and then publicly letting Al-Qaeda have Libya, and now using them against Syria, and now putting in the Muslim Brotherhood in...

02:08:53.000 Egypt, what is the larger plan there?

02:08:56.000 And how do they juxtapose, give up all your rights because Al-Qaeda is hiding under your desk, and the TSA needs to grow up your wife and daughter, because Al-Qaeda might be in their pants, but Al-Qaeda's good and taking over these countries. 0.79

02:09:10.000 Well, my take on it, you know, my flags went up when they did Egypt, and ended up with the Muslim Brotherhood getting a big chunk of the say so in what goes on in Egypt, because Egypt previously had been somewhat of an ally to us, and they weren't really a huge threat to Israel, and now they are, and they're not an ally of ours anymore, and then of course it went across North Africa, it hit Libya, and then you see the same groups 0.90

02:09:36.000 With the same ties to the same people, basically back to Tehran, Iran, and they all have the same plan and that basically is take over the entire planet and turn us Muslim and try to kill off everybody that's not Muslim or fails to pay their tax and convert. 0.99

02:09:53.000 So that's the issue I've got, is why did we support any of these people? 0.81

02:10:00.000 We shouldn't have had anything to do with that.

02:10:04.000 Except to protect on our own interest.

02:10:07.000 It just didn't make sense.

02:10:09.000 So when you've got Hamas and you've got Al Qaeda and you've got, you know, these different splinter groups that get involved in overthrowing these governments over there that so far haven't been a threat, now they've become a threat.

02:10:21.000 So the larger strategy is what, in your view?

02:10:24.000 Well, I think the larger strategy is to put all these people under the same set of circumstances, the same rules, so to speak, the same leadership, the same objectives, and so that they organize to get better.

02:10:36.000 You know, most of the different people in the Middle East don't like each other, and it's hard to get them to organize to do anything.

02:10:45.000 You know, the Iranians are Persian, they're not Arabs.

02:10:49.000 And the Arabs are broken down into different factions, and the Egyptians aren't really Arabs.

02:10:55.000 But when they use their saying, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, Then even if they're enemies, they would unite against us, or the West, or against Christianity, or against Judaism. 0.60

02:11:09.000 They would do that.

02:11:11.000 That's the thing that pulls them together.

02:11:13.000 And they are purely evil. 0.95

02:11:15.000 That whole bunch is purely evil. 1.00

02:11:18.000 You don't see a lot of Christians taking hostages and cutting their heads off. 0.98

02:11:23.000 I mean, you know, so that should tell people something right there. 0.79

02:11:27.000 And these are the very people who want to get this Sharia law going. 0.93

02:11:29.000 They've taken over France. 0.86

02:11:30.000 They've taken over Holland. 0.94

02:11:31.000 They've taken over the UK.

02:11:33.000 They've got their own neighborhoods and courts and everything.

02:11:36.000 And now they're taking over New York City and places up in...

02:11:39.000 What is it, Milwaukee or not Milwaukee?

02:11:41.000 Michigan.

02:11:43.000 But Colonel, my point is this.

02:11:45.000 The more modern, moderate Muslim countries are being overthrown and the globalists are putting the Al Qaeda jihadis in. 0.99

02:11:52.000 And that's the plan.

02:11:53.000 I'm saying it's an organized clash of civilizations playing us off against each other.

02:11:59.000 But this really does illustrate the whole war on terror is a fraud and was designed to take our basic liberties.

02:12:04.000 RifleWarrior.com.

02:12:06.000 It's always great to have you and say hi to the family for me.

02:12:09.000 We'll do it.

02:12:10.000 All right, there goes Colonel Craig Roberts.

02:12:12.000 I've known him about, I don't know, I've been interviewing him like 15, 16 years, but I've gotten to know him personally over the years.

02:12:16.000 Really nice guy, has a lot of interesting sources, and just getting his take on everything.

02:12:21.000 Okay, we are now joined by Hayden Perry, the CEO of Oxitec.

02:12:27.000 He has a background in life as a science sector, and I'm not going to go over his huge bio, but he is the head He is the head of the company that all over the world, Australia, you name it, has developed these mosquitos, GMO mosquitos, to... ...of the mosquito that can carry the dengue fever.

02:12:50.000 And they're wanting to release these in Florida, and a lot of people are up in arms about that, and hey...

02:12:57.000 We try to get folks on from the other perspective, and when they'll do it, they're here, so we can only say that we respect Hayden Perry for coming on.

02:13:07.000 Mr. Perry, thank you for joining us from the UK.

02:13:10.000 No, it's a pleasure.

02:13:11.000 Thanks for having me on.

02:13:12.000 Wow, your Skype looks like you're sitting in the room next to me.

02:13:17.000 Alright, so tell us about yourself, the company, what this particular genetically modified mosquito does.

02:13:25.000 Sure, well, the company itself is a small UK company.

02:13:29.000 We're about 40 people.

02:13:30.000 We came out of Oxford University.

02:13:33.000 What we have pioneered is a way of effectively producing sterile insects and we focus on those species that either spread disease like dengue fever or that damage crops in terms of agriculture.

02:13:48.000 So we've got two sides to what we do, both the public health side and the agriculture.

02:13:55.000 The one that we're talking about here is the mosquito called Aedes aegypti and it

02:14:01.000 basically has come out of Africa, it's spread itself around the world and when you have Aedes aegypti in an urban environment and someone comes into that environment with dengue fever then you have the conditions with which dengue fever will spread from person to person because dengue fever is only spread by the bite of a mosquito and there's no vaccine, there's no medication for dengue fever

02:14:31.000 And, quite frankly, chemicals have done a poor job in reducing the incidence because this mosquito is very difficult to kill with insecticides because it lives in and around your home.

02:14:46.000 I know in places like Australia, from the numbers, you're the expert on this, a lot of people get dengue fever, some do die, but here in the US, what, 30 cases last year, 60 the year before that, I think it's zero so far with the mosquitoes.

02:14:59.000 Why release these in Florida?

02:15:03.000 Well, it depends on what Florida wants to do.

02:15:06.000 I mean, the reason that we were consulted by the Florida Keys mosquito folk is because Florida Keys did not have dengue for years and years. 0.99

02:15:18.000 You have to go back 20, 30 years.

02:15:20.000 I don't even remember the last case.

02:15:23.000 And then in 2009, they got about 29 cases, and those were people who had not traveled.

02:15:29.000 So, in other words, they got dengue locally in the Keys.

02:15:34.000 So what they did is they responded by, you know, very much increased manpower to carry out surveillance, remove breeding sources, carry out chemical treatments.

02:15:45.000 They increased all of the levels of activity a huge amount.

02:15:49.000 And the following year they had about 67 cases or there or thereabouts.

02:15:54.000 So they hadn't managed to control it.

02:15:56.000 Now last year, thankfully, they had no cases at all, which is terrific.

02:16:01.000 But the issue is You need two things to come together.

02:16:05.000 You need to have the mosquito already in your town and you need then to have the virus come in.

02:16:10.000 Now the issue is...

02:16:13.000 If you have the mosquito, then you have the conditions that are ready to spread the virus if it comes in.

02:16:20.000 Now, last year they didn't have the virus, that's good.

02:16:22.000 But because Florida Keys has, I think it's around 3 million visitors a year, and a lot of those are going to come in from places like Puerto Rico or Cuba or around the Caribbean, then, you know, you are at risk.

02:16:38.000 What does dengue fever do to you?

02:16:40.000 It's flu-like symptoms.

02:16:42.000 It's known as break bone fever, which gives you a clue.

02:16:47.000 It can be anything, actually, from asymptomatic all the way through up to hemorrhagic fever, where blood vessels burst, and shock syndrome, and ultimately death.

02:16:57.000 But normally speaking, people would have a very severe flu, severe headaches, feel as if their bones are breaking.

02:17:07.000 It's very frightening and unnerving.

02:17:11.000 It's not normally fatal, but it is very unpleasant.

02:17:17.000 All right.

02:17:17.000 Well, you're very kind to join us here.

02:17:18.000 Obviously, there's a controversy about having GMO spiders.

02:17:22.000 People don't trust GMO because what we've seen from some of the big companies and the problems of the drug companies out there with all the scandals they're involved in, knowing their vaccines are causing convulsions, knowing that, you know, that the drug Out there for asthma was really killing people and didn't help people.

02:17:41.000 So that's why folks are concerned about this.

02:17:44.000 I'm not saying there couldn't be things properly tested, you know, GMO stuff that wouldn't be a problem.

02:17:49.000 But we have a track record in the larger industry of of of basically being above the law.

02:17:54.000 So I think that's why people are concerned.

02:17:55.000 We appreciate you coming on to talk about this again.

02:17:58.000 We have the CEO Hayden Perry.

02:18:01.000 Of Oxitec, a company that produces these modified mosquitoes.

02:18:06.000 Let's get into, we're about to go to break.

02:18:08.000 Again, you're gracious to spend time with us in the evening over there in the UK.

02:18:11.000 What are these mosquitoes? 1.00

02:18:12.000 How are they changed?

02:18:14.000 What do they do?

02:18:15.000 How do they supposedly mitigate the dengue fever problem?

02:18:20.000 Okay, so how are they changed?

02:18:22.000 What we've done is we've put a gene into these mosquitoes and that gene causes the offspring The next generation to die.

02:18:32.000 Now there are two interesting facts about mosquitoes.

02:18:36.000 Firstly is males don't bite you and males don't spread disease.

02:18:40.000 And the second thing is that mosquitoes actually don't travel very far.

02:18:44.000 So they travel about 200 yards in their life.

02:18:47.000 So what we do is we have mosquitoes.

02:18:50.000 We breed them, which are in effect sterile.

02:18:53.000 So their offspring will not survive.

02:18:56.000 We release males into the environment because males are the ones that are safe.

02:19:00.000 They don't bite.

02:19:02.000 They will mate with the females that are out there. 0.99

02:19:05.000 And then instead of that female, which potentially could produce up to 500 live adults in her lifetime, those offspring will not occur.

02:19:15.000 They will die before they reach adulthood.

02:19:18.000 So effectively, it's birth control for insects is the way to think about it.

02:19:24.000 Very interesting.

02:19:25.000 We're going to get a break here and I want to come back and talk about specifically what you do, how you develop this, because I guess you guys are the patent holders for this particular type of technology.

02:19:35.000 Sure, we are, yeah.

02:19:37.000 Amazing, alright.

02:19:38.000 Hayden Perry is here.

02:19:40.000 All Things Dengue Fever, Mosquito Eradication.

02:19:44.000 We've got some news articles here.

02:19:46.000 We'll go over with him on the other side.

02:19:48.000 And we'll also give you the website for Oxitec.

02:19:54.000 It's Oxitec.com if you want to go see their promo videos.

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02:24:17.000 Hayden Perry, the CEO of Oxitec, a genetic engineering firm, I guess is the proper name for them.

02:24:27.000 You can correct me if I'm wrong.

02:24:28.000 Has made big news.

02:24:29.000 I mean, here it is in the current New Yorker magazine.

02:24:32.000 It's got Obama as a doctor on the front, New York Times, just hundreds of publications.

02:24:38.000 Big debate down there in Florida, and he's saying, hey, Florida wants the technology, they get it.

02:24:44.000 Specifically though, let me read to you out of New Yorker on page 44 in this current July 9th issue.

02:24:52.000 It says environmentalists have expressed concern about what might happen if some of the modified females survive and while biting people injected them with an engineered protein, Oxitec.

02:25:06.000 Separates males from females, but with so many mosquitoes, a few genetically modified females invariably slip by, Oxitec puts the number at about 1 in 3,000.

02:25:15.000 This is a nightmare scenario, and we don't have any published data that answers the question.

02:25:21.000 And I saw a quote in my stack here from someone at your company, it may have been you, correct me if I'm wrong, saying, They're not going to pass any of their DNA or whatever onto you or viruses, RNA.

02:25:32.000 But I mean, doesn't a female mosquito bite you and inject saliva into you to liquefy before a sanguinating the delicious meal so she can produce her larva? 1.00

02:25:44.000 But I mean, you're saying there's no danger?

02:25:46.000 No, we're saying there's no danger, but I would also emphasize that Everything we do, whenever we work in any country, we always work with the experts, whoever they may be, whether it's the Ministry of Health, whether it's a leading research institute, and we also always work under whatever regulatory system there is.

02:26:07.000 So you've always got an expert institution that we're working with, which is local, and you've always got But you're the expert on these mosquitoes.

02:26:19.000 I mean, I don't think there's anybody that knows more than you.

02:26:22.000 Why do you say they're safe?

02:26:23.000 Okay, why do we say they're safe?

02:26:25.000 Because, firstly, the DNA, what we've done is we've put in two changes, if you like, to produce this sterility effect.

02:26:36.000 Now, this protein that's expressed, it doesn't come up in the salivary glands of the female. 1.00

02:26:41.000 You can't find it there.

02:26:42.000 So, you're not going to get any Mosquito biting you and past this protein.

02:26:49.000 Even if you did, this protein we've done very thorough studies on it and it doesn't show up in any of the databases as an allergen or toxic or whatever.

02:26:59.000 So it looks absolutely safe and it's not in the salivary glands and the other thing which is a bit more anecdotal and less scientific is obviously we work with them all the time and we've all been bitten over and over again.

02:27:13.000 Well, I think that probably is some of the better proof right there.

02:27:17.000 I mean, the old-fashioned thing, nobody's getting sick there being bit. 0.99

02:27:20.000 How do you feed these little buggers? 0.99

02:27:23.000 How do we feed them?

02:27:25.000 In the lab?

02:27:26.000 Do you mean in the production system?

02:27:27.000 Yes, I mean, do you throw like some poor dog in there?

02:27:30.000 No, I'm joking.

02:27:32.000 Or do they just go to a petri dish and ingest cow's blood?

02:27:36.000 What is it?

02:27:36.000 Yeah, so we have blood that we get given to us, sorry, we buy, and then we create these, it's like a little plate, if you like, with a film over it and then that plate is put on top of the cage.

02:27:54.000 Um, you can put some CO2, some carbon dioxide, into the, into the cage.

02:27:58.000 Because they track off that, right?

02:28:00.000 Yeah, they track off this, yeah, females are attracted to, um, the pheromones that we give off. 1.00

02:28:05.000 They're attracted to the carbon dioxide that we give off.

02:28:08.000 They're attracted to, um, to those factors.

02:28:11.000 So if you give them a source of blood, you give them a couple of signals, um, like... Sounds like bureaucrats!

02:28:17.000 Sounds like tax collectors!

02:28:19.000 Yes, well, I can't comment on that.

02:28:22.000 Okay, so this is intriguing.

02:28:24.000 What kind of blood do you feed them? 0.85

02:28:26.000 Horse, normally.

02:28:28.000 Ah, horse.

02:28:29.000 Is this taken fresh from the horses, or is it a French restaurant you get it from?

02:28:36.000 No, it would be taken from a particular source.

02:28:38.000 I'm not close enough To be honest, I'd need to get one of my guys to give you an answer to that.

02:28:43.000 But basically, it's a controlled source.

02:28:46.000 You're not getting it from the Queen of England who's got toddlers strung out by their ankles, are you? 1.00

02:28:50.000 No, nor from anyone's favorite racehorse.

02:28:54.000 Yeah, no, no.

02:28:55.000 I'm sorry, a little... I talk bad about the Queen.

02:28:57.000 I want to apologize for that right now.

02:29:00.000 Hey, the Diamond Jubilee just happened.

02:29:01.000 Are you still celebrating?

02:29:03.000 Oh yeah, we have to celebrate all year.

02:29:05.000 It's mandatory or else we get exported.

02:29:08.000 I hear something else, man.

02:29:09.000 All right, listen, we're going to go to break.

02:29:11.000 A longer segment coming up.

02:29:12.000 I want to give you the floor to talk about why you think this is safe, where you're doing it, some of the other mosquitoes you're working on, and the rest of it.

02:29:20.000 And for those that don't know, there are a lot of other companies.

02:29:22.000 I know decades ago they had GMO larvas to kill the fire ants.

02:29:27.000 Maybe you can tell us, because I know you're a Scientist who studies bugs, and I want them working for you.

02:29:33.000 What other kind of GMO bugs are out there?

02:29:35.000 I think we should go in that direction, but Hayden Perry came on.

02:29:40.000 He's very confident, and he's a good salesman.

02:29:43.000 I'm ready to wade into a bunch of these mosquitoes right now.

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02:33:17.000 We're joined by Hayden Perry, CEO of Oxitec.

02:33:23.000 And I've got the New York Times here.

02:33:25.000 Concerns are raised about genetically engineered mosquitoes.

02:33:29.000 I've got some of the quotes here.

02:33:30.000 The Oxitec technique, however, is not foolproof.

02:33:34.000 Alfred M. Handler, geneticist at the Agriculture Department in Gainesville, Florida, said the mosquitoes, while being bred for generations in a lab, can evolve resistance to the lethal gene and might then be released inadvertently.

02:33:47.000 What about mutations?

02:33:48.000 Todd Shelley, a etymologist for the Agriculture Department in Hawaii, said in a commentary published on Sunday by Nature Biotechnology that 3.5% of the insects in the lab tests survived to adulthood despite presumably carrying the lethal gene.

02:34:03.000 I think the concern here, Hayden, is how does the gene cut off the life cycle or sterilize?

02:34:11.000 What does it do in these?

02:34:13.000 Because, you know, we have the UN and all these other people, the science czar at the White House, saying we want to put stuff in the food and water to sterilize or reduce population.

02:34:22.000 That seems to be the moonraker, you know, dream of these neo-eugenicists. 0.89

02:34:29.000 That's kind of the end trendy thing.

02:34:31.000 I don't know.

02:34:32.000 You're from a big university of science.

02:34:33.000 I don't know if you've hung out with the trendies.

02:34:35.000 What's your view on world population?

02:34:38.000 I just see a children of men scenario.

02:34:40.000 If it's not from your mosquito, there's so many of these bugs, insects being released, spider goats.

02:34:49.000 Everything else, human genes and cows, they can get organs. 1.00

02:34:53.000 I mean, I'm already seeing problems from GMO.

02:34:55.000 I mean, do you get some of the apprehension out there that people have?

02:34:58.000 Or should we just embrace it right now and just inject ourselves with mosquito genetics? 0.98

02:35:06.000 No, I think what we have as societies, we have a number of challenges in all walks of life.

02:35:13.000 And I think what we try and do Is to innovate, to make things safer, to make them more environmentally sustainable.

02:35:21.000 And I think that's what we're seeing here.

02:35:23.000 I mean at the end of the day, what are we doing at the moment about mosquitoes?

02:35:26.000 We produce chemicals which are like a blanket bombing approach.

02:35:32.000 We swamp the place with chemicals.

02:35:33.000 At the same time as we're trying to take out the dengue mosquito, we're also taking out umpteen other species.

02:35:40.000 Um, which do no harm at all and also disrupt the food chain.

02:35:44.000 And bioaccumulates in us, oh I agree that!

02:35:46.000 And accumulates.

02:35:47.000 So, you know, we are already carrying out a very, what I would call a fairly brutal way of trying to solve a particular problem spread by one mosquito, which is in and around the home.

02:35:59.000 And also we're not being successful because this mosquito, despite best efforts, is not controlled.

02:36:04.000 So if anyone wants to look at the Florida Keys website, You'll see that even now, one in five houses they find this particular mosquito in.

02:36:14.000 Despite all the best efforts and down in the keys, you've probably got one of the best mosquito control teams around.

02:36:21.000 You know, we work with people in a number of different countries.

02:36:24.000 These are top-class guys, and they've got the resources, and they find it very, very difficult to control this mosquito.

02:36:30.000 I was about to say, a lot of these lobbies out there would make more money using poison.

02:36:36.000 So, I mean, I would imagine there are some lobbies out there that probably are more than happy to demonize your program, because it would probably be much cheaper to use the genetic warfare aspect than chemical warfare.

02:36:49.000 Well, I think, I think Our approach will be cheaper than chemicals, but I think it will also be more effective, and I think it'll be much better for the environment, because we're like a sort of sniper's rifle, if you like.

02:37:00.000 We're only looking to take out the one Insect that's causing the problem and that insect shouldn't be there.

02:37:08.000 It should not be in the keys It should not be in the states.

02:37:11.000 It came from Africa.

02:37:11.000 How did it get over a load of lumber or something?

02:37:15.000 Yeah, I know you're absolutely right.

02:37:16.000 I mean it moved Mosquito eggs are fantastically transportable and they're really resilient So if you have freight going on a on onto a boat coming out of Africa and moving across the states or it's coming from Cuba or Puerto Rico wherever it's coming from And you have mosquitoes laying eggs in and around that freight because there's some standing water.

02:37:38.000 Those mosquito eggs will be there and they will come over and they will get unloaded. 1.00

02:37:42.000 And the other way you transport mosquitoes is through planes. 0.60

02:37:46.000 I mean, we've all been in an airplane and as you're coming into land, the people come through and spray insecticides.

02:37:53.000 Um, you know, that's how we transport them around.

02:37:56.000 We have changed our environment by bringing these mosquitoes in.

02:37:59.000 Um, and I reckon, you know, our method is we are just focusing on the one mosquito that's causing the problem.

02:38:08.000 Well, you seem like a nice enough fella, but I mean, you can see why people get concerned when, I mean, explain exactly what this does to the mosquito, because you, you put them on antibiotics.

02:38:18.000 I mean, explain what's happening here.

02:38:20.000 Okay, well there's two different things.

02:38:22.000 The way in which this mosquito, I mean this mosquito has a gene that when it's inherited by the offspring results in the offspring dying before they get to adulthood.

02:38:32.000 Basically it disrupts the way in which the cells grow.

02:38:35.000 Now Of course, if you have that in a mosquito and it can't get to adulthood, then the next question is, well, how on earth can you create enough mosquitoes to put them out into the environment?

02:38:51.000 So the system has a way in which we can block that effect.

02:38:55.000 So we can actually feed these mosquitoes in the production environment with a chemical called tetracycline.

02:39:03.000 That actually suppresses the lethal effect and it does it through a molecular blocking effect.

02:39:08.000 It doesn't do it because it's an antibiotic.

02:39:10.000 It's a pure sort of lock and key molecular effect.

02:39:14.000 So in the laboratory or the lab you can actually effectively give these mosquitoes an antidote.

02:39:20.000 You can Create large numbers of them and then you can withdraw that and for the generation that you're going to release you just release the males.

02:39:28.000 They don't have access to the tetracycline in the open environment and by definition then they're sterile.

02:39:34.000 They're carrying that gene.

02:39:37.000 So they go out and breed with the females.

02:39:39.000 Yeah, they go out and breed with the females and every time they breed with a female, instead of that female having 70 to 100 eggs each time and up to 500 in their lifetime, then they won't produce viable offspring.

02:39:52.000 Now if you keep releasing the males over a period of time, then you'll bring that population right down.

02:39:58.000 But you won't be affecting other mosquitoes, you won't be affecting other insects like you would with an insecticide.

02:40:06.000 So it's species specific.

02:40:10.000 I gotta tell you, just my gut, with these hundreds of companies, you know, developing different insect-based systems, and I mean, look, you saw it come out with Blackstone SmithKline this week, with a whole bunch of their drugs.

02:40:26.000 They knew they were killing people.

02:40:28.000 They knew some drugs weren't even helping people and were only hurting them.

02:40:31.000 It was all a big joke.

02:40:32.000 You've got Merck.

02:40:34.000 I know these are big, giant, faceless companies.

02:40:37.000 You're the head of your small company.

02:40:39.000 You're coming on.

02:40:39.000 You believe in your product.

02:40:40.000 I don't think you're a bad guy.

02:40:42.000 But you've got these faceless bureaucracies.

02:40:44.000 Merck, you know, caught with its vaccines, knowing it's giving people measles, mumps, rubella in the shot.

02:40:52.000 Killing people in cases.

02:40:54.000 You got Bayer knowing HIV and hepatitis is in the factor eight for 11 years, shipping it out worldwide.

02:41:00.000 It's that cold-blooded, really craziness of these companies.

02:41:04.000 And now we see it with the big GMO companies and clear connections to problems.

02:41:09.000 You know, the honeybees can't eat it, but we supposedly can eat it.

02:41:11.000 You know, it's got its own pesticide.

02:41:13.000 Oh, it's natural, but it's a thousand times stronger.

02:41:17.000 All these gut disorders.

02:41:18.000 Something is wrong.

02:41:20.000 And I think part of it is the pesticide load in the environment.

02:41:22.000 Undoubtedly, autism is a cocktail.

02:41:25.000 It's linked to that.

02:41:26.000 So I'm not just here blaming GMO.

02:41:28.000 My issue is when Bill Gates is running around releasing mosquitoes at events, And funding mosquitoes forcefully inoculating you, and giggling about it.

02:41:40.000 That's why people are really scared of this.

02:41:42.000 I understand you're a smaller company that's developed this, and I don't want to get you in trouble with potential funders like Herr Gates, but I mean certainly you've... I would imagine your company's probably been contacted, you've probably been... you've had people bring this up to you, these points I'm raising.

02:41:58.000 Yeah, sure.

02:41:59.000 Just let me also make one sort of distinction, I suppose.

02:42:04.000 Um, we're a company that came out of Oxford University, and we are a small company.

02:42:10.000 We haven't got the resources of the big guys and the GlaxoSmithKline, which means we can't do everything indoors.

02:42:16.000 We can't do it all ourselves.

02:42:18.000 So that means we always work with other institutions.

02:42:22.000 So we work, for example, in Malaysia directly with the Ministry of Health.

02:42:27.000 We work in Panama with the Gorgas Institute, which is one of the world's leading mosquito research institutes.

02:42:35.000 So we always work with leading institutes.

02:42:38.000 So that gives a measure of comfort because there's nothing sort of As I would say, there's no sort of closed doors and we also work in a very sort of transparent nature.

02:42:46.000 Sure, it's like you've got BP ordering the drilling company to pour water in.

02:42:52.000 The company said it will blow up and they said we want to save money so it blew up.

02:42:56.000 You're saying that there is basically a committee process and there's a lot of different people looking at it.

02:43:03.000 It's not just a corporate CEO saying do this.

02:43:06.000 Yeah, it's not just us.

02:43:09.000 You know, this is a new technology.

02:43:10.000 So everybody, you know, if you get the science world and you get those people involved in these sorts of approaches, I mean, everybody does want a piece of the action.

02:43:19.000 Everyone does want to understand it.

02:43:20.000 They want to get their hands on it.

02:43:23.000 So we work with the Pasteur Institute in France.

02:43:26.000 And, you know, people say, can we have your mosquitoes?

02:43:28.000 Can we do tests on them?

02:43:30.000 The answer is basically, yes, you can.

02:43:33.000 And that helps us as well because we're so small we just can't do it all ourselves.

02:43:37.000 But certainly you've got to know that this is the type of technology a government could use or develop as something that renders humans basically stunted where we never were able to develop.

02:43:50.000 That's almost the opposite of what they do in Brave New World.

02:43:54.000 Well there's a big distinction Can I answer a slightly different question?

02:43:58.000 Sure.

02:43:58.000 Which is, you know, the approach that other companies or other people are taking around mosquitoes and just the whole sort out the whole GM insect piece.

02:44:09.000 Now obviously mosquitoes spread disease like malaria, dengue fever, we know that.

02:44:13.000 Now clearly there are researchers all the way around the world thinking there's got to be a better way than just throwing out lots of chemical.

02:44:22.000 And so what you have there is you have a lot of people working on different methods.

02:44:26.000 Now, you'll get one guy who will say, well, OK, I've got a clever idea.

02:44:31.000 Let's suppose I could make the dengue mosquito not catch the virus itself, because if it can't get the virus, it can't transmit it.

02:44:41.000 So someone will work on a genetic change that will be looking to stop the mosquito getting a virus or looking to stop it developing it or look or finding another way to shorten its life cycle.

02:44:52.000 You'll get a whole series of different sort of strategies all sort of coming in in this area and there's a fundamental difference between us and all of those because all of those strategies Center on making some sort of change that persists.

02:45:11.000 So in other words, people are working on ideas that say, if I can make a mosquito less susceptible to disease, then by definition it won't spread virus, etc.

02:45:23.000 But to get that out, to make that effective, you've got to actually change the mosquito species.

02:45:29.000 You've got to push that out.

02:45:31.000 You're just eradicating them!

02:45:33.000 And we're not and we're not eradicating them and we're not spreading a gene through the environment either through time and generation.

02:45:40.000 Well then what do you call it at the end of your review?

02:45:43.000 What we're doing, I'd call it elimination because you imagine our approach.

02:45:48.000 We put out a mosquito.

02:45:48.000 Every mosquito we put out, it's only going to fly 200 yards.

02:45:52.000 They don't fly any further.

02:45:53.000 Normal ones don't.

02:45:55.000 GMOs don't. 1.00

02:45:56.000 They're all the same.

02:45:56.000 They don't fly very far.

02:45:58.000 Imagine two towns next door to each other, exactly the same.

02:46:02.000 And imagine we release our mosquitoes in Town A and not in Town B. Well, what's going to happen?

02:46:08.000 We release our males in Town A. They're going to mate with the females. 0.99

02:46:12.000 No offspring.

02:46:13.000 We're going to keep releasing.

02:46:14.000 They bring the dengue mosquito population right down.

02:46:19.000 What's the effect in Town B where we're not releasing?

02:46:22.000 Answer, nothing.

02:46:24.000 Because these mosquitoes, they only do two things. 0.99

02:46:27.000 They go out, mate with a female and die, and the offspring die.

02:46:31.000 Or they go out, they don't find a female, they die. 0.88

02:46:34.000 That's it.

02:46:36.000 Now, I do understand the concern very much with any form of new technology, which is why I think external scrutiny and regulation is very important.

02:46:47.000 But I also understand, you know, when you get to GM crops, What you've actually got with the GM crop is you're giving the crop some kind of advantage.

02:46:57.000 You're giving it a way of protecting itself from insect attack or from a herbicide.

02:47:02.000 You're giving it some natural advantage and then you are propagating that down the generations.

02:47:08.000 What are we doing?

02:47:09.000 We're doing the opposite.

02:47:10.000 We're giving the insect the biggest disadvantage it can get, which is not being able to breed effectively.

02:47:16.000 So ours is a very limited, targeted type of approach and Fundamentally, that puts us in a very different camp to everybody else.

02:47:27.000 Oh, no, I understand.

02:47:27.000 That's why this is so intriguing.

02:47:29.000 But I mean, certainly, certainly, you've worked in a university environment.

02:47:34.000 A lot of this came out of England.

02:47:36.000 You've certainly heard all these calls to artificially make people not reproduce at the current levels because, quote, the earth is overpopulated.

02:47:45.000 So can you imagine how this creeps people out, hearing about this technology and mosquitoes?

02:47:52.000 I can.

02:47:52.000 I mean, I think all technology, until it's understood, has elements of uncertainty.

02:48:00.000 What is your view on world population?

02:48:00.000 Sure.

02:48:04.000 My view is these things tend to be self-balancing, actually.

02:48:06.000 I think as you increase, I mean, what history shows is that as countries increase in prosperity and the actual birth rate tends to go down because your confidence in the survival of your children goes up.

02:48:20.000 And then you move from sort of the basic instinct of needing your children to survive to actually giving them a better education.

02:48:29.000 Yeah, you're exactly right.

02:48:30.000 I mean, Europe's 1.3 now.

02:48:31.000 The U.S.

02:48:33.000 Russia's dying.

02:48:33.000 is similar.

02:48:34.000 Japan's dying. 0.82

02:48:35.000 We've got the opposite problem.

02:48:37.000 I mean, the West is not going to be here in 100 years.

02:48:42.000 Well, we're certainly going to be out-competed by the Chinese. 1.00

02:48:45.000 That's for certain.

02:48:46.000 Both technically and economically.

02:48:49.000 Well, that's right.

02:48:50.000 We always talk about what England, the U.S., Europe's doing with genetic engineering.

02:48:54.000 The real revolution's in China, isn't it? 0.98

02:48:57.000 The real revolution is in China, and you've got countries like Brazil.

02:49:00.000 I mean, that is a staggering environment.

02:49:04.000 We do a lot of work in Brazil.

02:49:05.000 We've done a lot of this mosquito work in Brazil. 0.67

02:49:07.000 But the sort of go-ahead attitude, the quality of the science out of there, the number of academic papers coming out, the whole just vital economy.

02:49:17.000 Yeah, I'm going to make a prediction.

02:49:19.000 I'm going to say this now, though.

02:49:21.000 A lot of people in your line of work obviously mean well and want to save the world.

02:49:25.000 But I'm just going to say it right now, studying history.

02:49:28.000 There are already disasters being caused by all this untested out there.

02:49:32.000 And statistically, it's not going to be your mosquitoes.

02:49:35.000 And I'm predicting mega disaster within 10 years out of all this GMO. 1.00

02:49:40.000 And I just hope we survive.

02:49:41.000 Because if you've got 10,000 companies, pell-mell with gene guns, splicing everything in the world, open air, it's only a matter of time till Big trouble comes out of all this.

02:49:54.000 Well, I think, again, I'm not going to defend an entire industry.

02:49:58.000 I'd defend ourselves, but I'm not going to defend anyone else.

02:50:01.000 But if you look at something like GM crops, there were huge claims made about how that was going to cause problems in a whole series of areas.

02:50:15.000 And I think there's been now, I saw a paper the other day saying something like three trillion meals have been eaten.

02:50:21.000 Um, containing food that contains, you know, that came from a GM crop.

02:50:26.000 Sure, but that becomes a PR debate.

02:50:27.000 We've got massive evidence it's causing problems.

02:50:31.000 If you get the claim and counterclaim, um, I think what, you know, at the end of the day, one does with these things is you've got to make sure your scientific scrutiny is top-notch, as good as you can do it.

02:50:42.000 You make sure you understand your risks, and you make sure you understand your benefits.

02:50:45.000 And you also say, well, what else am I doing?

02:50:48.000 You know, am I happy with what I'm doing?

02:50:49.000 Hey, Barry, I've got one more question for you.

02:50:52.000 When we come back, stay there.

02:50:53.000 Folks can go to the website, Oxitec.com.

02:50:58.000 They've got little vampire flying insects. 0.99

02:51:01.000 They're available.

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02:54:00.000 Okay, Hayden Perry, you got cut off by the you got cut off by the break.

02:54:23.000 Go ahead and finish your point, sir.

02:54:26.000 I've completely forgotten what point I was making.

02:54:28.000 Can you remind me?

02:54:29.000 You were just getting into the fact that GMO has just been absolutely wonderful.

02:54:34.000 No, I wasn't.

02:54:35.000 What I was basically saying is that...

02:54:39.000 You get claim and counterclaim in any of these things.

02:54:42.000 There's a lot of science that says that GM crops are very, very safe.

02:54:46.000 They've done a lot in terms of reducing pesticides use.

02:54:50.000 And they're very safe to humans.

02:54:52.000 And that's the vast bulk of the scientific argument.

02:54:54.000 All the Roundup Ready stuff?

02:54:56.000 That's most of the GMO out there.

02:54:57.000 It means more chemicals.

02:55:01.000 No, actually it means less.

02:55:02.000 I'm certainly not one to defend Monsanto and Roundup, but actually if you look at the environmental effect of spraying Roundup on a maize field, comparing to spraying the old maize selective herbicides, Roundup is genuinely better.

02:55:22.000 I think Monsanto can defend themselves.

02:55:25.000 They don't need me to.

02:55:25.000 Well, listen, here's my last question.

02:55:27.000 I saw news headlines.

02:55:29.000 Mosquito tests may occur without permit.

02:55:33.000 This is out of the local newspaper there, The Citizen.

02:55:38.000 What's happening right now?

02:55:40.000 I mean, who decides whether you release these little creatures?

02:55:44.000 Well, that headline is nonsense.

02:55:46.000 We would never go ahead without regulatory oversight.

02:55:50.000 And we've said that, been in Florida Keys and said it, we've had a town hall meeting and we've said that.

02:55:56.000 So what's happening right now?

02:55:58.000 Right now we have opened what they call a file with the FDA, Food and Drug Administration, and they are starting to look through the data we've given them and the dossiers we've given them and they will come back to us to say what You know, whether the data is sufficient, whether they need more.

02:56:18.000 And we'll start a process of our views being challenged and tested and the data being scrutinized.

02:56:30.000 And we go through that process.

02:56:31.000 So I don't know how long that's going to take.

02:56:33.000 In fact, that's one of the questions we've asked You know, one of our questions is, how long does this take?

02:56:38.000 And the answer is, no one knows.

02:56:40.000 I mean, we go into that process and we come out at the other end at some point, when they're satisfied.

02:56:46.000 There's no way we release without going through and coming out the other side of that process.

02:56:54.000 There'd be absolutely no point.

02:56:56.000 All right, well, Hayden Perry, CEO of Oxitec, Oxitec.com.

02:57:01.000 Folks can find out more.

02:57:02.000 You've got some videos explaining it all there.

02:57:04.000 I appreciate you coming on and giving us your perspective on the other side of this.

02:57:09.000 My gut tells me that all of this is going to end up basically with the fate of Atlantis.

02:57:16.000 I'm not against technology, I just think it's all moving forward so quickly and the track records we've seen that we're flirting with disaster, but we'll see what happens.

02:57:26.000 Thank you for joining us.

02:57:27.000 We'll see what happens.

02:57:28.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:57:28.000 All right, there he goes from the UK.

02:57:30.000 Very nice to spend that much time with us.

02:57:36.000 Now, there is a lot we're going to be covering, obviously, on the nightly news tonight, I should add, but we'll just have that posted at PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:57:46.000 Gonna have some big, breaking news there.

02:57:49.000 I don't have time to get into it all, but I really differ with his claim of, you know, no big problems with GMO.

02:57:55.000 The mainstream media won't cover what's happened, but we know.

02:57:57.000 I mean, we know with the inserts of the vaccines it says causes cancer, can kill you, narcolepsy, epilepsy, Yada, yada, yada.

02:58:07.000 And then the vaccine people go on national TV and say, there are no side effects.

02:58:11.000 And then now they're having to go, oh, well, it did cause some people to have seizures and die, but it's, you know, Gardasil is killing some people, but it's okay.

02:58:18.000 And then it turns out this stuff doesn't even protect you.

02:58:22.000 Well, I knew that five years ago.

02:58:23.000 It said on the insert, doesn't protect you from it.

02:58:26.000 In the case of Gardasil or any of this, it's all in the fine print, folks.

02:58:30.000 And this guy may mean well, and I'm not saying there isn't technology out there.

02:58:35.000 But this playing God is going to really cause us problems.

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Alex Jones Show - July 12, 2012

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