Alex Jones Show - 20120717_Tue_Alex

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00:00:25.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

00:00:27.000 It is Tuesday, July 17, 2012.

00:00:29.000 This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, sitting in for Alex today on this truly monumental day of news that just stretches Your construct of reality, it's so amazing.

00:00:45.000 Let me give you a hint of what's coming up here.

00:00:47.000 We've got, well, yesterday at the end of the Alex Jones Show, we had a caller, Chris from Oklahoma, who began describing his involvement in military gun confiscation of US citizens in New Orleans.

00:01:00.000 And he talked about the New Orleans Police Department, the NOPD.

00:01:04.000 Involved in some rather heinous crimes, including raping of women and other things.

00:01:10.000 That set off really a firestorm of research here at the InfoWars studios in Austin, Texas.

00:01:16.000 Last night, Rob Dew then had on InfoWars Nightly News a video compilation.

00:01:22.000 Because, you see, so many people can't believe this is really happening.

00:01:26.000 They live in denial about the gun confiscation issue and what the military is ordered to do when a crisis occurs in these cities.

00:01:34.000 So, Rob Dew and the team put together a video compilation of footage, some of it from mainstream news media, showing U.S.

00:01:42.000 military engaged in gun confiscation and doing it rather violently and, as Chris said during the call, without negotiation.

00:01:49.000 So we're going to feature that video clip coming up in just a few minutes to show that to you and remove any doubt in your mind that this is the plan when there's a crisis, when there's an attack, a natural disaster, a bomb, a dirty bomb, a release of let's say a pandemic bioweapon of some sort.

00:02:10.000 This is what's going to happen in the U.S.

00:02:12.000 Have no doubt about that.

00:02:13.000 But that's just the beginning of the show today.

00:02:15.000 We have much more coming up as well, including an exclusive worldwide radio first of Blair Hamrick, the whistleblower from GlaxoSmithKline.

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00:03:07.000 We're talking about bribery of doctors, kickbacks from doctors, we're talking about off-label marketing of drugs to children even though they were never tested for children, never approved for children, all that and much more straight ahead.

00:03:19.000 Also, The FDA has just been caught surveilling the emails of its own employees and scientists.

00:03:26.000 This is a mafia type of surveillance, criminal thug racket type of operation that the FDA has just been caught doing.

00:03:34.000 You know, instead of being transparent, They now have to be big brother to their own employees because they know their own employees are trying to expose the truth and expose the corruption and expose the criminality to the world just like Dr. David Graham did over the Vioxx issue many years ago and the FDA is now turning to what could be criminal type of activities to suppress and censor and intimidate their own employees.

00:04:01.000 That's America today.

00:04:04.000 It's not just the government engaged in gun confiscation of private citizens following a natural disaster.

00:04:08.000 It's the FDA itself going after its own employees.

00:04:12.000 Imagine that.

00:04:13.000 We've also got information here.

00:04:15.000 A Paul Joseph Watson article, the U.N. gun grab follows State Department plan, plus the breaking news coming out of Washington Times that says the Law of the Sea Treaty, that was the U.N. Small Arms Treaty, was part of that.

00:04:28.000 This says the Law of the Sea Treaty is now dead.

00:04:31.000 That's called LOST, L-O-S-T is the acronym for that.

00:04:34.000 But, but, we know, and you know, if you're a regular listener, That even if Congress is not approving of something, the executive branch of government will bypass Congress and do the UN's bidding anyway.

00:04:48.000 So all of that and much more, including G. Edward Griffin as a guest at the bottom of this hour.

00:04:54.000 All that straight ahead right here on the Alex Jones Show.

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00:07:56.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:08:09.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:15.000 Welcome to the Alex Jones Show!

00:08:17.000 Tuesday, July 17th.

00:08:19.000 We are continuing here.

00:08:20.000 This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, sitting in for Alex today.

00:08:23.000 I'm the editor of nationalnews.com.

00:08:25.000 You probably know that.

00:08:26.000 And Alex, of course, infowars.com, where you can find articles on all these topics that we are discussing today.

00:08:32.000 A huge show straight ahead.

00:08:34.000 In fact, there's so much here.

00:08:37.000 We've got Military gun confiscation of U.S.

00:08:40.000 citizens, that issue is high on the radar right now.

00:08:44.000 We're going to discuss the Law of the Sea Treaty.

00:08:47.000 Reports are that it is now dead because the U.S.

00:08:49.000 Senate will not ratify it at this point.

00:08:51.000 But if the U.N.

00:08:52.000 passes it, could the executive branch, Obama in particular, bypass Congress and go ahead and say that guns should be confiscated from all law-abiding Americans?

00:09:01.000 I'm talking about legal guns, guns that people bought with the FBI background checks, with concealed weapons permits.

00:09:08.000 With ATF approval, Form 4 equipment, for example, all legal, but it could all be confiscated.

00:09:15.000 Now, we've got much more coming up, but I want to give a shout-out.

00:09:18.000 If there was a caller at the end of the show yesterday, a military, active duty military or former active duty, Chris from Oklahoma called in.

00:09:27.000 And he had an astonishing story about gun confiscation in New Orleans.

00:09:32.000 He and his teammates, his fellow soldiers going in and doing very aggressive kicking in doors, arresting people, taking their guns.

00:09:41.000 I want to ask him to call back in.

00:09:42.000 We're going to open up the phone lines and see if he's listening, want him to call back in, have him back on.

00:09:47.000 Otherwise, if other people who have been in the military and who are involved, who were involved in gun confiscation drills or actual missions, we would invite them to call in as well.

00:09:59.000 We'll be taking your calls later on in the show.

00:10:02.000 We've got G. Edward Griffin coming up at the bottom of the hour with some additional information in all this realm of global control of the situation.

00:10:08.000 But first, we're going to introduce a video compilation.

00:10:11.000 For those of you who don't believe what we're talking about, that this kind of gun confiscation is actually going on in America, Rob Dew and the Infowars Nightly News crew put together a video compilation that will blow your mind.

00:10:25.000 And this includes some clips from the call yesterday with Chris from Oklahoma, plus some mainstream news footage that actually shows this going on, kicking in doors, screaming at innocent citizens, taking their guns and leaving them wide open to violent crime in their areas hit by natural disasters.

00:10:42.000 We're going to go to that video clip right now, and then we'll be right back after that.

00:10:46.000 Guns will be taken.

00:10:46.000 Take a look.

00:10:47.000 No one will be able to be armed.

00:10:49.000 We will take all weapons.

00:10:53.000 Today in New Orleans, they got a lot tougher on the holdouts.

00:10:55.000 Police department, anyone home?

00:10:58.000 Not only the flooded areas, but New Orleans' driest and wealthiest neighborhoods too.

00:11:04.000 Police department!

00:11:05.000 The police and National Guard going street by street, house to house.

00:11:11.000 Sometimes entering open houses with guns drawn.

00:11:15.000 Instructions to disarm anyone inside.

00:11:18.000 Let's go to Chris in Oklahoma.

00:11:20.000 Chris, you're on the air, on the Alex Jones Show.

00:11:22.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:11:23.000 Hey, Hells Ranger.

00:11:24.000 How's it been?

00:11:25.000 Good.

00:11:26.000 It's good here, man.

00:11:26.000 How about yourself?

00:11:27.000 Oh, pretty good.

00:11:28.000 Pretty good.

00:11:29.000 I was with the 45th Infantry Brigade, Delta Company, 1st of the 279, 2nd Platoon.

00:11:37.000 During Hurricane Katrina, I'm kind of calling it in on yesterday's subject.

00:11:40.000 I'm sorry about that.

00:11:41.000 That's alright.

00:11:45.000 I've always wanted to get ahold of you guys and kind of get the word out there for those that still have that slight hesitation in the back of their head that gun confiscation can't and won't happen here.

00:11:55.000 It already has.

00:11:57.000 And I was only 21 years old, just really gung-ho.

00:12:01.000 Really dedicated to the Army, especially to the infantry.

00:12:05.000 And, uh, I did whatever I was told.

00:12:07.000 And what did they ask you to do?

00:12:09.000 Alright.

00:12:10.000 First, let's see.

00:12:11.000 The first thing we did was we got a three-week, uh, a book full of three-week-old 911 phone calls, right?

00:12:17.000 And then we had to go around and answering all the phone calls, so we were like cadaver dogs for about three weeks.

00:12:23.000 And in between them we would run night missions. 0.71

00:12:26.000 And here's the thing, a lot of people may think that they'll see this on the news or they'll have time to get ready when the crap hits the fan or whatever.

00:12:35.000 It's just, it's a truck, you know what I mean? 0.64

00:12:37.000 It's a group of trucks, they pull up, they stack right on your home, as we did, and we broke entry.

00:12:42.000 Yeah, we would yell out, Oklahoma Army National Guard, is anybody in need of assistance?

00:12:47.000 But that's as we were booting in the door.

00:12:49.000 Wait a minute, it sounds like you weren't part of the Oklahoma National Guard.

00:12:53.000 I mean, you were US military.

00:12:56.000 Yeah, I was, uh, I was activated, um, I think about a week after Katrina.

00:13:01.000 I was, I was watching it on, on, on the news and Sheriff Kimiko, Fox 23, told me before my unit even got ahold of me that I was going to New Orleans.

00:13:10.000 Wow, so, so... Yeah, we got, we got sent in and we were, we were the very, very first boots on the ground.

00:13:15.000 Alpha Company... And you were confiscating, you were confiscating firearms?

00:13:20.000 Left and right, yes.

00:13:21.000 And we were also monitoring the New Orleans police because we kept having like, you know, like the first day we had this beautiful red-headed lady come up.

00:13:29.000 All right, wait a minute.

00:13:30.000 We're almost out of time.

00:13:30.000 Will you stay on the line for us, please?

00:13:32.000 I want to continue with you on the other side.

00:13:33.000 Stay on the line with us.

00:13:35.000 This is fascinating.

00:13:36.000 We're going to continue this right here on the Alex Jones Show.

00:13:38.000 We'll be right back.

00:13:39.000 That happened today in this wealthy neighborhood where homeowners had armed themselves to protect their mansions.

00:13:46.000 Residents were handcuffed on the ground.

00:13:48.000 In the end, police took their weapons, but let them stay in their homes.

00:13:52.000 They were a little bit threatened because our weapons were bigger than their weapons.

00:13:55.000 Chris Montgomery says he'd rather be in Iraq than patrolling American neighborhoods.

00:14:00.000 Walking up and down these streets, you don't... you don't want to think about the stuff that you're gonna have to do.

00:14:05.000 Somebody pops around the corner, you'd be shooting an American. 1.00

00:14:09.000 We have Chris on the line from Oklahoma relating a story about gun confiscation in New Orleans and that entire region following Hurricane Katrina several years ago.

00:14:20.000 And Chris, go ahead.

00:14:21.000 You were describing how you and your team were kicking in doors and confiscating firearms from people.

00:14:29.000 Did anybody resist?

00:14:30.000 Did anybody ever shoot back?

00:14:32.000 What happened?

00:14:33.000 Well we had a couple of people resist verbally and they got stuffed and cuffed very violently.

00:14:39.000 We throw them in the back of the five ton or the deuce and a half or whatever and then we take them out to the Greyhound bus station, which was the police station at the time.

00:14:48.000 What I was saying before we came up, or before the break, I think it was like the second day we were there, this red-headed lady came up to our company area. 0.99

00:14:59.000 She sat on the curb with her knees in her chest, just rocking back and forth, crying uncontrollably.

00:15:05.000 She sat there for almost 27 hours, just refused to move.

00:15:09.000 We, you know, we talked to her.

00:15:11.000 We did everything we could.

00:15:12.000 Just didn't want to, you know.

00:15:13.000 You can tell she had been doing nothing. 0.68

00:15:15.000 She had been repeatedly raped by men in NOPD masks and NOPD uniforms. 0.70

00:15:19.000 Oh, you're kidding me. 0.88

00:15:20.000 So, oh, yeah.

00:15:21.000 So we were told, you know, at that point we were told the NOPD obviously isn't our friend.

00:15:26.000 We need to start watching them.

00:15:27.000 The FBI had us out there at Cooter Brown, which is the NOPD situation.

00:15:32.000 Sheriff's Brothers Bar.

00:15:34.000 It's like the big cop bar there in New Orleans.

00:15:36.000 Just so people know, N.O.P.D.

00:15:37.000 is New Orleans Police Department, just for people who know.

00:15:40.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:15:42.000 We're not the police department.

00:15:43.000 So, a lot of those cops were then just total rogue? 0.70

00:15:46.000 I mean, we saw a video of some of them going and looting retail stores and things like that, but they were raping women down there? 0.99

00:15:52.000 Definitely raping women. 1.00

00:15:53.000 We've got two separate women that came to our company alone. 1.00

00:15:58.000 And when I was there, I met cats from the California Guardian.

00:16:05.000 It was just a free-for-all.

00:16:06.000 Police from all over the country.

00:16:07.000 Dallas County.

00:16:09.000 Dallas, Texas.

00:16:10.000 Harris down there.

00:16:11.000 How did you and your team justify to yourselves and each other that gun confiscation would help this situation when it was a free-for-all?

00:16:17.000 I mean, isn't that a time when citizens need to be able to defend themselves? 0.97

00:16:22.000 It never, you know, like I said, I was just ignorant as hell.

00:16:25.000 And that's kind of something that I worry about with the kids today, you know, if they really realize what they're doing.

00:16:30.000 You know, I had no idea.

00:16:32.000 The only time it ever occurred to me that something may be wrong is we came up, we were down by the old French district.

00:16:38.000 We came up to this man's house.

00:16:40.000 He had a big wooden sign that says, I'm here alone with my dog and my shotgun.

00:16:45.000 Looters beware.

00:16:46.000 We thought, you know, it's funny everyone stopped and took pictures of the sign.

00:16:49.000 But eventually we took his guns.

00:16:51.000 We left him there with nothing.

00:16:54.000 So now that you know what you know, now that you're listening to the Alex Jones Show and you're informed, what would you advise people to do if this happens again?

00:17:03.000 Well, I called.

00:17:08.000 No offense, I mean, Mike, we love everything you do.

00:17:10.000 I'm a big fan of the Hell Ranger, but I was hoping to get ahold of Alex for the fact that... What do you do when they stack right?

00:17:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:17:18.000 Yeah.

00:17:19.000 And they're prepped to come into the home.

00:17:21.000 There's no... There's no negotiating with us, trust me.

00:17:24.000 There was no negotiating.

00:17:25.000 Yeah.

00:17:26.000 If you resisted, you died.

00:17:27.000 That was the orders. 1.00

00:17:28.000 You go for gunner, you die.

00:17:31.000 Yeah, but well, I mean, this is invaluable information.

00:17:34.000 I apologize, we only have a limited time here.

00:17:36.000 I gotta let you go.

00:17:38.000 Just we've got so much more coming up here, but fascinating.

00:17:41.000 I hope you call back and get to Alex as well.

00:17:46.000 I'll pass on this conversation to Alex and let him know, but that's some frightening information.

00:17:51.000 And I just hope that the military The members of the military say no.

00:17:58.000 They refuse to engage in gun confiscation because, no doubt, there could be outbreaks of violence and a lot of needless death and bloodshed if that happens.

00:18:06.000 But thank you for your call, Chris.

00:18:08.000 That's very concerning.

00:18:10.000 It was traumatic.

00:18:12.000 All of a sudden, they were banging on the front door, the side door, and the back door.

00:18:18.000 And they said, let us in.

00:18:20.000 I'm saying, look at all my food.

00:18:21.000 I got plenty of food.

00:18:23.000 They kept pushing me back, pushing me back.

00:18:27.000 It ended up like this.

00:18:29.000 Then, Patty showed them a small revolver she was carefully holding in the palm of her hand. 0.61

00:18:34.000 A camera crew was there to capture what unfolded next.

00:18:42.000 I said, it's not even loaded!

00:18:44.000 And I dropped it on the floor.

00:18:46.000 Well, they punched me in the face.

00:18:52.000 Look at my black and blue merch.

00:18:54.000 Look at... You said guns will be taken.

00:18:56.000 No one will... Okay, wow, there you go.

00:18:58.000 The footage, a compilation from InfoWars Nightly News, put together from mainstream media sources, plus our interview yesterday with Chris from Oklahoma, who we want to encourage to call back in at 1-800-259-9231.

00:19:08.000 Plus, we're going to be taking calls later during the show.

00:19:10.000 Plus, we're going to be taking calls later during the show.

00:19:14.000 And by the way, I mean, I am just emotionally hit by all this as well.

00:19:20.000 When you see this going on, that woman that they just showed just had a revolver to protect herself from looters or home invasion and they punch her in the face, they throw her against the wall and take her gun and leave her there defenseless in a situation where the looters are running rampant.

00:19:38.000 This is America?

00:19:40.000 I mean, it is!

00:19:41.000 This is Chicago, this is New York, this is everywhere that the citizens are being left defenseless and the murder rate is soaring even without a natural disaster, even without some kind of a false flag attack going on.

00:19:53.000 Imagine what's going to happen when it really hits the fan.

00:19:57.000 Much more straight ahead.

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00:24:11.000 We've got a document for you to go out and search if you're not already familiar with it.

00:24:15.000 It's called the State Department Publication 7277.

00:24:19.000 You got that?

00:24:20.000 777, you got that?

00:24:21.000 7277.

00:24:23.000 Alex talked about that on the Sunday show.

00:24:26.000 And this is the complete disarmament of the world laid out point by point.

00:24:33.000 This is a strategy, it's called Freedom From War, and it goes back to September of 1961.

00:24:40.000 And it is upon this document that the current discussions of the United Nations and its treaty for small arms disarmament, registration, confiscation, and so on, is based.

00:24:50.000 So this has been an agenda going on for a very long time.

00:24:53.000 The truth is, look, no matter what you think about your neighbor owning a firearm or you owning one, the point is the United States Second Amendment is unique in all the world.

00:25:04.000 Just like the Bill of Rights, as a sacred, almost a divinely inspired document, is unique in the world.

00:25:11.000 And they want to destroy it.

00:25:13.000 The globalists want to destroy the Bill of Rights and Obama's doing a good job for them.

00:25:18.000 Really, really obedient puppet to get that job done. 0.97

00:25:22.000 And of course there are other puppets standing in line to do it for them, but they're trying to destroy every right, every freedom, every liberty that we have in America today.

00:25:31.000 Now, we opened up the phone lines for callers who were engaged in the military, or even National Guard would also qualify, who were engaged in gun confiscation.

00:25:42.000 And we want to invite them to call in.

00:25:43.000 The number is 800-259-9231.

00:25:46.000 We also want to give a shout out to Chris from Oklahoma.

00:25:49.000 If he's listening today, go ahead and call in and tell us more details about what took place there.

00:25:53.000 And just a quick heads up, G. Edward Griffin is joining us very soon, in a few minutes.

00:25:58.000 I'm going to ask him questions about gun confiscation.

00:26:00.000 And then we've got a big whistleblower.

00:26:03.000 Who was inside, GlaxoSmithKline, who's joining us at the bottom of the next hour, about an hour from now, with incredible details about bribery of physicians, off-label marketing, violations of law, fraud, you name it.

00:26:16.000 It's a big breaking story right here on the Alex Jones Show.

00:26:20.000 Now, I want to go to a caller right now because of the video we just played that last segment.

00:26:24.000 We've got Charles in Louisiana joining us.

00:26:27.000 You're on the air, Charles.

00:26:28.000 Go ahead, welcome to the show.

00:26:30.000 Yes, I was reporting every day.

00:26:33.000 I was from New Orleans to Alex on a show.

00:26:35.000 Yes.

00:26:36.000 I was down there.

00:26:37.000 But let me explain something to you.

00:26:39.000 When they would take the guns away from the people, people, they wouldn't go back on the night board because they would fight.

00:26:45.000 And they would run the police out.

00:26:47.000 Then they would come at night and rape the women and knowing they didn't have guns. 0.99

00:26:51.000 Right. 0.95

00:26:51.000 Do you understand what I mean? 0.95

00:26:52.000 Exactly.

00:26:54.000 And the police, they were busy.

00:26:56.000 They were busy robbing the jewelry stores.

00:26:59.000 That's right.

00:26:59.000 The police was doing that.

00:27:01.000 I've seen this.

00:27:02.000 And the men was nothing.

00:27:06.000 And all these men talk all this bad stuff.

00:27:08.000 They were shaking when they come there.

00:27:10.000 But the main thing is after they took them guns, they made themselves victims for the thugs that come up there.

00:27:16.000 They would just come into a house and take what they wanted.

00:27:19.000 Take food, jewelry.

00:27:21.000 And I'm going to tell you something.

00:27:23.000 I don't know where the men's are at, but giving these guns up, it's going to be the most awful thing you ever had.

00:27:29.000 Well, this is the important point, Charles, is that if you, sorry to interrupt you, but if you give up your guns now, you can expect to be, that's going to be followed up by a police department Or other people, and by the way, I don't want to say, I mean, not all cops are bad.

00:27:44.000 I know a lot of law enforcement, mostly they're good people, and they wouldn't engage in this kind of behavior, but in New Orleans, now we're hearing it from so many places again and again, they went back and they raped those women, and they broke into the houses, and they stole the jewelry like you were just saying.

00:27:58.000 It happened, and it's time to get out of denial and realize what happens when you give up your Second Amendment in this country.

00:28:03.000 Go ahead, Charles.

00:28:05.000 innocent people on a bridge just trying to cross the bridge.

00:28:08.000 I reported that to Alex as soon as that happened.

00:28:11.000 They just shut it down like dogs, sir.

00:28:14.000 We were there. - Yeah, I recognize your voice.

00:28:16.000 I remember you calling in.

00:28:18.000 I shot a shot around doors.

00:28:19.000 And that woman in the Irish Channel, they broke her jaw and beat her up. 1.00

00:28:25.000 She just come with a Bible and a revolver. 1.00

00:28:27.000 And I tell you another thing is, the military, I have no respect after the military, what they did to women. 0.98

00:28:33.000 Show me your breasts for some water. 1.00

00:28:36.000 Show me you're not thirsty. 0.98

00:28:38.000 And the police, they were so bad.

00:28:40.000 But they're going to take off...

00:28:41.000 The military, they're gonna take the guns away from them, and the police too!

00:28:44.000 And I told them that!

00:28:46.000 They're gonna take your guns away!

00:28:47.000 And then you... Now, what they're gonna do when they take their guns away?

00:28:51.000 They're gonna wanna be friends with us?

00:28:54.000 And now, also remember then, none of those police were ever brought up on charges who engaged in that.

00:28:59.000 They got away with it because the people were disarmed, they couldn't fight back, it was a chaotic type of situation.

00:29:07.000 I mean, isn't that the time when citizens and neighborhoods and communities need to have a common lawful defense against looters, against Lawlessness against violent criminals.

00:29:18.000 That's the time when you need to band together with your neighbors in a common defense with legal and lawful firearms That's the point of having those tools of protection and defense Yeah This this is this is really okay, we've got more callers on the line a lot more straight ahead, but thank you Charles for calling in and It's stay with us.

00:29:39.000 We'll be right back with a lot more straight ahead right here.

00:29:41.000 Stay with us.

00:29:42.000 We're on the march.

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00:33:01.000 Big Brother.

00:33:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:33:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:33:09.000 You want answers?

00:33:10.000 Well, so does he.

00:33:12.000 It's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:16.000 What do you mean I don't believe in God?

00:33:21.000 All right, let me lay it out for you here.

00:33:25.000 The big issues of the day, we're talking about the gun confiscation that really took place, that it's already part of American history, took place in New Orleans.

00:33:34.000 It's on the record.

00:33:34.000 We just showed you the video clips.

00:33:36.000 I mean, some of those were mainstream media video clips.

00:33:39.000 We've got people, witnesses firsthand.

00:33:41.000 You just heard a caller, Charles, who called in, who has actually called in many times in the past, telling us firsthand what he witnessed taking place, the most heinous crimes The big picture here, and by the way, we've got G. Edward Griffin on the line.

00:33:52.000 We're going to be joining him in just a second.

00:33:54.000 We've also got callers on the line.

00:33:56.000 We're going to get to you, so please stay on the line.

00:33:58.000 James in Tennessee with law enforcement, Joe from Georgia, and Tango from Georgia.

00:34:03.000 Also, so please stay on the line.

00:34:04.000 We'll get to you.

00:34:05.000 The big picture here is, look, I know that Alex and myself both would rather be here talking about the, you know, the spiritual connection with The great, the creative forces of the universe, the creativity and the beauty of the world and human achievement and, you know, actually positive outcomes for the future of humanity.

00:34:29.000 We would rather focus on that.

00:34:31.000 But the truth is...

00:34:33.000 When you've got gun confiscation taking place, when you've got an oppressive world government that's trying to take away your liberties, then you have to pay attention to that because you are not going to solve that problem by sitting in a room, let's say, and just meditating.

00:34:50.000 You know, the gun confiscation, the Federal Reserve, the printing of currency, the stealing of your economic prosperity, the taking away of your rights, these things are real.

00:35:01.000 And even though we don't want to dwell on them, because we don't want to stay in that area, we do have to beat them.

00:35:08.000 We have to achieve victory as Infowarriors, as defenders of liberty and life and love and truth and all that is good in the world and even in the universe.

00:35:17.000 I mean, we have to defeat tyranny if we hope to move on and actually achieve something great as a human civilization.

00:35:24.000 And that's why we do this.

00:35:26.000 I don't want to dwell on the negative, but we have to be realistic about what's out there.

00:35:30.000 And this is going on.

00:35:32.000 You know, Obamacare is forcing you to do business with monopolized criminal pharmaceutical organizations.

00:35:37.000 It's in your face.

00:35:38.000 The gun confiscation is really happening. 0.76

00:35:40.000 The NOPD really did go out there and rape women after taking the guns away from the families so they were defenseless. 0.97

00:35:46.000 So it's real.

00:35:47.000 We can't live in denial.

00:35:49.000 If we hope to achieve greatness, we have to beat the tyrants, we have to restore liberty, and that's the only way that we can actually achieve greatness as human civilization and protect the future for our own children and grandchildren as well.

00:36:01.000 Now, with more comments on that, Big Picture View is, of course, Ed Griffin.

00:36:05.000 He is really one of the pioneers of the Liberty Movement.

00:36:09.000 RealityZone.com is one of his websites.

00:36:12.000 He joins us now by phone with his comments on what's happening in the world today.

00:36:17.000 Ed, thank you for joining us here on the Alex Jones Show.

00:36:20.000 What's on your mind today?

00:36:21.000 Well, thanks a lot, Mike, for inviting me.

00:36:24.000 What's on my mind?

00:36:25.000 Well, I feel rather schizophrenic this morning.

00:36:32.000 I appreciate your comments that we would rather focus on the more pleasant aspects of life, but the reality is in your face, as you said.

00:36:40.000 Good analogy.

00:36:42.000 While you were saying that, it reminded me of the fellow that was on death row in prison, and he was sentenced to be electrocuted in the morning or hung, let's just say hung.

00:36:53.000 And he wasn't very happy about the idea.

00:36:56.000 He was in his cell.

00:36:57.000 He was dejected.

00:36:58.000 This was the end of his life and everything.

00:37:00.000 And the guy in the cell across the way said, what's the matter?

00:37:06.000 Why are you looking so dejected?

00:37:07.000 And he said, well, I'm going to die here in a few hours. 0.89

00:37:10.000 They're going to hang me.

00:37:11.000 And so the other fellow said, well, look at the bright side.

00:37:15.000 You still have your health.

00:37:18.000 Oh my, a little gallows humor there.

00:37:20.000 Yeah, that's kind of how I feel, because sometimes people say, oh, you're so negative, you're always talking about these bad things, why don't you look at the bright side, you know?

00:37:28.000 I'm so tired of hearing that from people.

00:37:31.000 It's like, what, if your neighbor's house is burning down, you shouldn't tell them?

00:37:35.000 You shouldn't call 911, just let it burn down, don't be negative, don't tell the truth about something bad happening?

00:37:40.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

00:37:41.000 It's ridiculous. 0.89

00:37:42.000 I call it the Jiminy Cricket mentality, you know? 0.99

00:37:48.000 You are.

00:37:48.000 It'll all come true if you just wish, wish, wish.

00:37:50.000 And we kind of teach that to kids, that if you're good and you're pure and your intentions are correct and, you know, everything will work out just fine because you're good.

00:38:01.000 Well, the fact of the matter is we live in a world where there are a lot of people who are not so good.

00:38:05.000 And as a matter of fact, the criminal mentality tends to gravitate into positions of power because that means that they, you know, government power in particular, because they figured it out a long time ago.

00:38:16.000 Why should you fight the government when you can be the government?

00:38:19.000 Absolutely.

00:38:20.000 And what are you seeing in terms of the trending of criminality?

00:38:23.000 Because one of the trends that's becoming very obvious to InfoWarriors and all of us who fight for liberty is that in the last even just five years, there seems to be an acceleration of just the outright criminality, thuggishness of government.

00:38:39.000 Not just federal, but I mean at local levels too.

00:38:42.000 Look at California.

00:38:43.000 Look at Chicago.

00:38:44.000 Well, I guess Chicago has always been steeped in corruption and criminality.

00:38:48.000 But is it really getting worse?

00:38:49.000 Well, yes it is, because I think there's almost a mathematical relationship here.

00:38:54.000 This is a social event happening, but I think there's a lot of mathematics in it, in the sense that the reason that all governments eventually evolve into criminal syndicates is because we give them power, and power is a magnet.

00:39:10.000 Power is a magnet that attracts And so the more power we give to government, the more inevitable it becomes that that magnet gets stronger and attracts more and more of the predator class.

00:39:24.000 And finally, we just have basically a government that we thought was of the people gradually evolved into a criminal syndicate.

00:39:33.000 So yes, there's a mathematical relationship.

00:39:35.000 The more power we give to government, the more we create a criminal environment.

00:39:41.000 Well yeah, look at the UN, where you have total diplomatic immunity.

00:39:45.000 So anywhere that you have total immunity, you get complete and utter corruption.

00:39:49.000 Of course.

00:39:49.000 Runaway criminality.

00:39:50.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:39:52.000 Once people connect the dots and realize that there's a cause for this criminality, it's not just because it happened that way.

00:39:59.000 There's a cause.

00:40:00.000 It's that relationship between the power that we tolerate government having.

00:40:06.000 In fact, we often become In general, the population has been conditioned to think that no matter what problems we have in society, the solution is to give more power to the government.

00:40:20.000 And so we create this environment.

00:40:22.000 We are creating ourselves, creating this magnet.

00:40:27.000 Well, what do you think about the gun confiscation issue?

00:40:30.000 I don't know if you heard the last segment, but it's rising up again because of this UN treaty being negotiated that would potentially, and this was written up right in Forbes magazine, in fact, which typically doesn't reveal this much information about what's really going on, but it could potentially result in gun registration, confiscation of legal firearms, basically a total disarmament of the US population.

00:40:54.000 Of course, they deny that that's what the treaty would do, but if you read between the lines, that's what it actually could do.

00:40:59.000 What are your thoughts on that issue, Ed Griffin?

00:41:02.000 Well, that pretty well summarizes it.

00:41:03.000 They do deny it.

00:41:04.000 They always deny the negative consequences of their programs.

00:41:08.000 They like to talk about their measures in glowing terms.

00:41:13.000 They don't call it gun confiscation or gun control.

00:41:18.000 They call it disarmament, reducing crime.

00:41:27.000 Well of course, but of course the greatest armed criminals, I should say the most severe, the worst armed criminals are the government themselves.

00:41:34.000 Just look at history, look at democide figures of death by government.

00:41:39.000 So I think what the mainstream people are missing is that it's not gun disarmament.

00:41:44.000 It is a movement of all firearms out of the hands of law-abiding citizens into the hands of the most centralized, corrupt, power-hungry groups of all, which is government.

00:41:55.000 That's the message that doesn't get through to people for some reason.

00:41:57.000 Yeah, because the media and the confiscators are always talking about criminals.

00:42:03.000 They're always talking about taking guns away from criminals.

00:42:06.000 And, you know, reducing accidental deaths and injuries.

00:42:09.000 That's the total focus.

00:42:10.000 That's the limits of the debate.

00:42:13.000 No one's allowed to discuss the real purpose of the Second Amendment.

00:42:16.000 The Second Amendment was not added to the Constitution by our forefathers to protect the citizens against crime.

00:42:23.000 It was added there for one purpose, and that's to protect them from totalitarian government.

00:42:28.000 Their own government.

00:42:28.000 Yes, yes.

00:42:29.000 They were leery that their own government might someday become tyrannical, and so therefore they said the people must be armed so that the people will have the ultimate control over their own government.

00:42:41.000 Well...

00:42:43.000 Well, maybe we should support disarmament of the government.

00:42:47.000 I mean, we should.

00:42:48.000 But, you know, hey, I'd be, I'd feel a lot safer with firearms in the hands of sheriffs and sheriff's deputies all across the country and not in the hands of, let's say, some renegade ATF agents.

00:42:58.000 Not that they're all bad, but there are a lot of renegade ATF agents out there.

00:43:03.000 Are you willing to take a call from a police officer who's on the line?

00:43:03.000 But how about this?

00:43:06.000 Why, sure.

00:43:07.000 All right.

00:43:07.000 Let's go to James in Tennessee law enforcement.

00:43:09.000 James, you're on the air here with Mike Adams and Ed Griffin.

00:43:12.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:43:14.000 How are y'all doing today?

00:43:14.000 Yes, sir.

00:43:15.000 Doing good.

00:43:16.000 What's on your mind?

00:43:18.000 Well, you made a statement earlier about our police officers not being bad, and I think that's pretty much common knowledge.

00:43:23.000 There shouldn't be any way in.

00:43:24.000 Mr. Griffin knows that.

00:43:26.000 I happen to have been in for a little while.

00:43:27.000 I'm not as old as some of the guys that I work with.

00:43:30.000 But most of your younger guys are the ones that are coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:43:34.000 They're coming in with police forces and sheriff's departments.

00:43:37.000 You know, they have programmed these guys.

00:43:39.000 Not all of them, but I've run into a few.

00:43:43.000 So what are you saying?

00:43:53.000 That they come back with a mindset of just do anything and and and kill and and it's like they can't think for themselves or what what exactly how does that look to you when you see these guys?

00:44:04.000 Well, you know, it's really weird because, you know, being raised in a law enforcement slash military family, so to speak, over the years, you see these guys and you think, you know, when I went in, when I got into the business, It was God, family, country.

00:44:22.000 Or God, country, family.

00:44:24.000 And that kind of thing.

00:44:24.000 You wanted to do it by your fellow citizens, your brothers and sisters.

00:44:28.000 And that seems to be missing.

00:44:31.000 It seems to be the element that's missing is just a compassion.

00:44:34.000 You know, they've been desensitized, I guess you might say, to killing.

00:44:37.000 Yeah, desensitized.

00:44:39.000 And not that they're all wrong in saying that, but you can pick up on those little nuances when you get into certain situations.

00:44:45.000 You know, they may be a little quicker to shoot than Well, yes, that's been my observation too.

00:44:50.000 I'm going to hit the taser or something of that nature.

00:44:53.000 I've seen it in different places, not just where I'm at.

00:44:56.000 Okay, good points, James.

00:44:59.000 Thank you for your call.

00:45:00.000 Ed, your comments on that caller?

00:45:02.000 Well, yes, that's been my observation, too.

00:45:04.000 Of course, I was in the military.

00:45:07.000 Fortunately, I was never called upon to go into actual combat, but I was kind of braced for it.

00:45:13.000 And I can recall at the time that I had actually gone through basic training to condition my mind to follow orders, not to question anything.

00:45:24.000 Of course, that's necessary in any military.

00:45:26.000 I realized that.

00:45:27.000 But I was prepared that if somebody said, see that group over there?

00:45:30.000 That's the enemy. 1.00

00:45:32.000 Go kill them. 1.00

00:45:33.000 I was prepared to say, well, my officers said that's the enemy, and my orders are to go kill the enemy. 1.00

00:45:39.000 That's the patriotic thing to do, because I'm fighting for my country and my family and everything. 0.57

00:45:44.000 But I was prepared to actually do that.

00:45:46.000 Of course, I didn't know nothing, as they say, at the time of what really was going on in the world.

00:45:52.000 I was there because I was, you know, I love my country, and that was the patriotic thing to do.

00:45:58.000 But now, in retrospect, I'm a lot older, and I've seen that there are hidden agendas quite often behind wars, and even hidden agendas behind local police actions.

00:46:09.000 Sure.

00:46:13.000 Well, Ed, let me ask you this question.

00:46:15.000 What about the pharmaceutical influence on these young minds?

00:46:18.000 Because this is the first generation of soldiers that is actually deployed with mandatory mind-altering drugs.

00:46:25.000 And I know you're well-versed on Big Pharma and the cancer cover-ups, the cancer industry, corruption, things like that.

00:46:33.000 Do you think that their minds are being rewired, literally, with the chemicals that are now being given on deployment?

00:46:41.000 Well, I don't think there's any question about that.

00:46:43.000 I think it's just an extension of the mind conditioning that was done through training.

00:46:49.000 In the old days, it was just done through exposure, training, repetition, and mental programs, educational programs, whatever you want to call them.

00:46:54.000 and mental programs, educational programs, whatever you want to call them.

00:46:58.000 But now they've added the element of drugs themselves.

00:47:01.000 And, gosh, it's a frightening thing because I know that all of most of these shootings that we find in schools, they're done by kids that have been given these psychoterapies.

00:47:02.000 And, gosh, it's a frightening thing because I know that most of these shootings that we find in schools, they're done by kids that have been given these psychos.

00:47:15.000 SSRIs and antidepressants, yeah.

00:47:16.000 SSRIs and antidepressants, yeah.

00:47:18.000 Yeah, they're all supposedly attention deficit disorder kids or something like that.

00:47:24.000 And this just blows their minds.

00:47:25.000 It pushes them over the edge into either suicidal or homicidal.

00:47:29.000 Well, it's not unusual today for a soldier to be on six different pharmaceuticals during active duty.

00:47:35.000 And you notice sometimes when they go crazy and they kill a bunch of civilians out there in a local village, those people are almost always on psychotropic drugs and usually sometimes half a dozen, like a chemical cocktail.

00:47:47.000 But you gotta think, maybe they come back and they are so detached that they can't even see what they're doing to their own brothers and sisters, their own neighbors in their own country anymore.

00:47:58.000 Right.

00:48:01.000 They're incapable of coming to independent judgment.

00:48:04.000 They've been trained to do that.

00:48:05.000 They've been conditioned to do that.

00:48:08.000 I fear those people, but I also feel sorry for them.

00:48:12.000 Nevertheless, you know, if they're ordered to come over and pick you and me up and throw us in the truck and take us out wherever we have to go and eliminate us, that's what they would do.

00:48:21.000 They would absolutely do that.

00:48:22.000 Let's go to another caller who's on the line, and I'll ask for your comments, Ed.

00:48:26.000 Tango from Georgia, U.S.

00:48:29.000 Army is the designation I'm getting here.

00:48:32.000 Tango, go ahead, please.

00:48:34.000 You're on the show.

00:48:34.000 What's on your mind?

00:48:37.000 Well, thanks for taking my call, first of all.

00:48:39.000 One thing I did want to touch on real quick is sort of on subject.

00:48:45.000 When you join any military service in this country, you take an oath.

00:48:49.000 And it's an oath that I think these kids nowadays need to remember.

00:48:53.000 You take an oath to protect the people of the United States and the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

00:48:59.000 And that's something that I take very seriously.

00:49:02.000 When I was, you know, first in, it really didn't hit me as hard as it did when I was out.

00:49:08.000 I battled with depression for about a year once I got out from the withdrawal from the drugs you all were just talking about.

00:49:14.000 I was suicidal for a long time.

00:49:16.000 But I'm over that now and I'm trying to get the word out there.

00:49:19.000 I also worked for a security company just recently and this is to touch on another subject about the TSA outsourcing to private security companies.

00:49:31.000 Uh, that just happened to the company that I worked for.

00:49:33.000 I just quit yesterday.

00:49:35.000 I told my boss outright that it was against my moral compass to do such a thing.

00:49:39.000 Wow, you're rare then because most people just go along with the tyranny.

00:49:43.000 Absolutely not.

00:49:44.000 No, I've been... I'm over it, man.

00:49:49.000 I'm ready to take up arms, to be honest with you.

00:49:51.000 And I hope there are a lot of other ex-soldiers out there just like me who are ready to do the same and fight for this country and for the ideals that the Founding Fathers tried to instill.

00:50:03.000 But, I mean, I've also been witness... I mean, I was stationed at Fort Benning.

00:50:05.000 I've been witness to these drills that y'all are talking about, the weapons confiscation drills.

00:50:09.000 I've been witness to Well, I haven't had that first-hand experience in the military, but I know it goes on.

00:50:18.000 quote unquote, are men dressed in overalls with John Deere hats.

00:50:21.000 Right, right.

00:50:22.000 You've seen it firsthand.

00:50:22.000 It's a lot of good information.

00:50:24.000 Let me ask for Ed's comments on what you're just saying there.

00:50:26.000 Well, I haven't had that firsthand experience in the military, but I know it goes on.

00:50:31.000 And yeah, so the impact is on the young soldier that's being recruited and he's being told that he's serving his country by learning how to do these things.

00:50:41.000 He's impressed by that.

00:50:43.000 He gets a paycheck and he does his job well.

00:50:45.000 He gets a medal for his chest.

00:50:48.000 We gotta go to break here, Ed.

00:50:50.000 Stay with us, please.

00:50:51.000 More continuing straight ahead here on the Alex Jones Show with Ed Griffin and Pauls of Military and Law Enforcement with knowledge of gun confiscation.

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00:54:12.000 If you're just joining us, this is Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in for Alex today.

00:54:17.000 Thanks for continuing with us.

00:54:18.000 We've got Edward Griffin on the line from RealityZone.com, one of the top freedom fighters and liberty advocates in our world today.

00:54:27.000 We've had callers who are active duty law enforcement and military.

00:54:32.000 Giving us information about gun confiscation.

00:54:35.000 We've got other callers on the line.

00:54:36.000 But I want to ask Ed this question.

00:54:39.000 There's an event coming up.

00:54:41.000 April, let's see, I'm sorry, August 18.

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00:54:48.000 This is brand new.

00:54:49.000 I don't think anyone's covered this yet.

00:54:51.000 The website is LemonadeFreedom.com.

00:54:54.000 And this is an attempt to show that selling lemonade from your lemonade stand should not be a crime.

00:55:01.000 as it is being increasingly considered by law enforcement all across the country.

00:55:05.000 Ed Griffin, your thoughts on lemonade freedom?

00:55:08.000 Well, I like the idea.

00:55:09.000 I like the fact that there's enough indignation out there at the grassroots level for people to even consider that. 0.96

00:55:15.000 But, you know, I have to say that putting yourself out there and saying, come arrest me for selling lemonade, as much as I admire that, I would like to think that people will put in an equal amount of effort and time and money to try and re-elect those stupid local I would like to think that people will put in an equal amount of effort and time and money to try and re-elect those stupid local politicians that pass ordinances like that and get to the root of the problem, which is it's not that the police 0.97

00:55:42.000 are being told to go enforce stupid ordinances, but it's because stupid ordinances have So I always try to go to the source of the problem, not the problem itself. 1.00

00:55:55.000 And the source of the problem is that we're electing the wrong people. 0.99

00:55:58.000 I agree with you, completely agree.

00:56:00.000 I'm trying to understand, what is the mindset of those who think gun confiscation from citizens is a great idea, because let's face it, there's a significant percentage of the country that somehow believes that.

00:56:12.000 What do they imagine, that when all the people are disarmed, and only the government has all the guns, that they're going to be safer?

00:56:21.000 They actually do.

00:56:22.000 I have some personal friends, and I just think the world of them.

00:56:24.000 They're very nice people, but that's their attitude.

00:56:28.000 They think every time something happens, there's an accident, a little child gets killed by a gun accident.

00:56:37.000 and kills a bunch of kids, they focus on that and say, "Look, you see, the problem there was guns.

00:56:44.000 "If those people didn't have guns, they think, "well, none of these crimes would take place." They might be right that some crimes might not be committed if there were no guns out there, but there would be more crimes committed if there were no guns out there.

00:56:59.000 I have a little slogan I've used for years, "You know, guns are dangerous.

00:57:02.000 People get killed with guns.

00:57:04.000 You know, guns.

00:57:05.000 There are accidents with guns.

00:57:07.000 Guns are very dangerous. 0.87

00:57:08.000 The only thing more dangerous than having guns is not having them.

00:57:12.000 Well, and also, I love how people who think we should all be disarmed, when they have a problem, when they have an intruder hiding in the bushes outside their house, what do they do?

00:57:21.000 They pick up the phone to call men with guns to come solve their problem!

00:57:26.000 You know, I just say, take out the middle man! 1.00

00:57:28.000 Let's do it ourselves!

00:57:29.000 We're here in Texas, we can defend our own homes against crazy people and looters.

00:57:33.000 I mean, that's an American right!

00:57:36.000 Yeah, well, they like to paint people like you and me as some kind of wild Yeah, well I've fired a lot of guns when I was in the military, a little practice since I came out, and they kind of jar me a little bit, but I think they're very important for every family to have.

00:57:58.000 Just a great equalizer, as they say.

00:58:01.000 Well, yeah, this is what gives a 110-pound grandma the ability to stand her ground against a 250-pound thug who wants to steal her purse. 1.00

00:58:09.000 That's right.

00:58:10.000 It is the great equalizer.

00:58:12.000 Well, Ed Griffin, I really appreciate you being on the show today.

00:58:14.000 Ed Griffin from realityzone.com.

00:58:17.000 Check out his website, folks, to learn more about his philosophies and lots of information.

00:58:21.000 Ed, great to have you on.

00:58:23.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:58:23.000 Okay, thanks a lot, Mike.

00:58:24.000 Talk to you later.

00:58:25.000 Yeah, you bet.

00:58:27.000 Great freedom champion right there, folks.

00:58:29.000 There goes Ed Griffin.

00:58:30.000 And we'll be back here on the Alex Jones Show, a lot more straight ahead, including an interview with a big pharma whistleblower in the next hour.

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01:00:33.000 And it is Tuesday, July 17, 2012.

01:00:35.000 Just had a great segment with Ed Griffin there and a lot of talk about the gun confiscation That has already taken place in America and that could take place in the months ahead if anything goes down out of the ordinary.

01:00:49.000 We've got callers on the line.

01:00:50.000 If you'd like to join us, we're taking calls today from military and law enforcement personnel who have first-hand knowledge and experience of gun confiscation, either drills or active missions.

01:01:01.000 And that 800 number is 1-800-259-9231.

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01:01:39.000 And by the way, we will go to callers in the next segment.

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01:01:57.000 It's a NaturalNews.com story by Ethan Huff.

01:02:00.000 And the thrust of it is, That even though the IRS is now put in charge of collecting this penalty, well now they call it a penalty, but of course it's a tax, right?

01:02:12.000 The IRS has no legal ability to collect this penalty.

01:02:17.000 And in fact, all they can do is send you threatening letters and try to intimidate you into voluntarily paying it.

01:02:24.000 How's that for interesting?

01:02:26.000 I guess some people would argue that the entire income tax is voluntary, but that's probably a whole different show.

01:02:31.000 In any case, the only way that the IRS can actually get this money from you legally under current law and regulations is to take it out of your withholdings.

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01:02:53.000 Because that's how they can then have leverage over you for the Obamacare penalty. 0.99

01:02:58.000 Now I'm on the record saying that I refuse to participate in this.

01:03:03.000 I refuse to buy healthcare in the corrupt mafia medical system.

01:03:09.000 I refuse to pay the IRS this penalty, but I guess they're just gonna probably take it out of my withholdings and there's nothing that I can do about it.

01:03:18.000 That's the reality that we're facing in America, but I will not voluntarily participate in this corrupt criminal medical system.

01:03:27.000 That's bottom line.

01:03:29.000 If they take it out of my filings because I do file taxes, that's a battle that I don't wish to deal with right now.

01:03:36.000 You know, I'm not a tax protester person.

01:03:39.000 So I do pay taxes.

01:03:40.000 If they take it out, then I guess I just have to write it off as another loss to the corrupt police state for a service that I will never use.

01:03:49.000 Because I don't go visit doctors.

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01:08:23.000 Thank you for joining us.

01:08:24.000 It's always great to be here and to reach out to you with all this incredible information.

01:08:29.000 I always love InfoWars callers, too.

01:08:30.000 They're so well-informed.

01:08:32.000 You know, if there's anywhere that I would want to just hang out with really cool people, it would be at an InfoWars event.

01:08:39.000 Because I know you can just talk to people about reality.

01:08:42.000 You know, you don't have to deal with delusions, you don't have to deal with people who are uninformed.

01:08:47.000 It's just talking about reality.

01:08:49.000 And that's sort of what I left off with there in the last segment, is this quote that I'm fond of saying, you know.

01:08:57.000 Again, if If God wanted us to take vaccines, He wouldn't have given us an immune system.

01:09:03.000 A lot of people find that funny, but it's true.

01:09:06.000 Why do you have an immune system?

01:09:09.000 Because you're supposed to survive.

01:09:11.000 You're supposed to have that blueprint for health and vitality.

01:09:16.000 And you're supposed to feed it right with nutrition, with minerals, with vitamins and nutrients and real food, not with GMOs and vaccines and chemicals and hormones and antibiotics and all those things.

01:09:27.000 I don't mean to segue into health too much because we've got so much other news here, but it is important.

01:09:32.000 And by the way, I prepared another quote.

01:09:35.000 And see if we can show that on screen for the PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

01:09:38.000 Another quote, because I believe in divine truth, divine rights.

01:09:42.000 Here's another quote I put together.

01:09:43.000 If our creator did not want us to be free, he would not have given us free will.

01:09:49.000 Now think about that for a minute and think about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the divine inspiration of those documents.

01:09:56.000 Why is the First Amendment a divine right?

01:10:00.000 Why is the Second Amendment a divine right?

01:10:04.000 You might be asking, whoa, how can that be a divine right?

01:10:07.000 Well, look around you.

01:10:08.000 Look around you in nature.

01:10:09.000 If you go see a cactus plant, for example, that cactus plant has its own Second Amendment rights.

01:10:15.000 The right to keep and bear spines.

01:10:18.000 And the spines protect the little cactus plant from predators.

01:10:22.000 And the spines are nature's way of saying, Leave me alone.

01:10:26.000 Let me just grow here in my own space and mind my own business.

01:10:31.000 And that is common throughout nature.

01:10:32.000 You see defenses in plants and animals and so on.

01:10:37.000 It is a divine truth to have the right to defend yourself, to protect yourself, your family, your children, your community, your neighborhood.

01:10:45.000 That is a divine right.

01:10:47.000 It is granted to us by our creator.

01:10:50.000 It is not something that we have to go begging the king to give us because he feels like we should have it for that day or that week or that year.

01:10:58.000 It is a divine right and it cannot be taken away from us.

01:11:02.000 And free speech is the same way.

01:11:03.000 It's a divine right to have that freedom of expression.

01:11:07.000 You see that again reflected throughout nature in plants and animals and in just patterns of nature throughout the cosmos.

01:11:14.000 Freedom of expression is really a reflection of the intent of God and the Creator.

01:11:20.000 I'm not going to get preachy on you here.

01:11:22.000 I just want to share that, you know.

01:11:23.000 There is a divine element behind everything that we do here.

01:11:27.000 When we talk about freedom of speech, when we talk about the right to defend yourself against aggressors and against violent criminals, those are divine rights.

01:11:37.000 And we will not give them up.

01:11:39.000 Not under any circumstances.

01:11:40.000 If you're an info warrior out there, and you enjoy this show, remember, we do not give up these rights.

01:11:46.000 We do not surrender what is divine in our lives.

01:11:49.000 Oh, they're showing some cactus right there on the screen.

01:11:51.000 Yes, some succulents on screen.

01:11:55.000 Thank you for that, for PrisonPlanet.TV viewers.

01:11:58.000 Alright, I want to go to some more callers right now.

01:11:59.000 I've got tons of other news, but I actually think the callers are more important than this other news right now.

01:12:04.000 So the phones are all, wow, okay.

01:12:08.000 Let's go to Chad in Long Island, former Army.

01:12:10.000 Chad, thank you for your call, and you're on the show, here on the Alex Jones Show.

01:12:14.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:12:15.000 What's on your mind?

01:12:16.000 How you doing, Mr. Adams?

01:12:19.000 I'm doing great.

01:12:20.000 Thank you for calling in.

01:12:21.000 Great to hear your voice.

01:12:23.000 Uh, great to hear you, sir.

01:12:24.000 One, I just want to say to all the veterans and all the police and all the first responders, remember your oath.

01:12:32.000 That's number one.

01:12:33.000 Number two, how can you vilify a tool?

01:12:36.000 That's like a carpenter saying a hammer's bad because he hit his hand.

01:12:40.000 A gun is nothing more than a tool.

01:12:42.000 It's the person who uses it.

01:12:45.000 Is evil.

01:12:46.000 Not the tool itself.

01:12:47.000 And that's what we need to remember and we need to instill that in our children.

01:12:51.000 Is that you can't blame tools for all the problems in the world.

01:12:56.000 You have to blame the individuals.

01:12:58.000 That's right.

01:12:58.000 We've got to have the ethics.

01:12:59.000 We've got to have the morals.

01:13:00.000 We have to have that personal responsibility, which is, again, taught in many religions.

01:13:07.000 It's a code of ethics that makes society more peaceful.

01:13:10.000 And you're right, that tool can be used to protect life, to defend life.

01:13:15.000 Why do people think cops carry guns?

01:13:17.000 To stop violence.

01:13:19.000 I mean, that's the way they're trained, to stop the violence, using the threat of force against someone who doesn't have those ethics.

01:13:26.000 Would you agree with that?

01:13:27.000 Oh yes, I definitely would agree with that, and I think that also, we as citizens need to weed out the people that are in authority, that have those guns and use the authority to brutalize and step on the necks of the poor people of this world.

01:13:42.000 Oh, of course!

01:13:43.000 Of course, we can't tolerate corruption, we can't tolerate bad cops, absolutely.

01:13:47.000 Exactly.

01:13:48.000 I mean, my thing is, I personally believe Mr. Adams, and this is just my personal belief, I think there should be all across this country citizens groups that police the police for the corrupt police that are in these neighborhoods and in these communities.

01:14:02.000 Because where I live in Long Island, it is corruption like you would not believe.

01:14:08.000 I mean, they have illegal roadblocks all the time.

01:14:11.000 Meanwhile, you got prostitutes down the street, you got drug dealers down the street, and they do nothing to these people.

01:14:17.000 But yet, they want to check people's registrations, make sure you got your seatbelt on.

01:14:22.000 Oh, I know!

01:14:23.000 You got Mr. Nanny, Mr. Nanny guarding you all the time. 0.81

01:14:27.000 Like in L.A.

01:14:27.000 No, think about it.

01:14:29.000 County or Ventura County in California, they use the sheriff's deputies to go out and raid, at gunpoint, the raw milk sellers.

01:14:36.000 Meanwhile, the drug dealers and the violent criminals down the street are completely unmolested, oftentimes, because there's such a shortage of law enforcement.

01:14:44.000 Great call, Chad.

01:14:45.000 Really appreciate your thoughts.

01:14:46.000 Let's go to Ray in Virginia.

01:14:48.000 Former Army, is that correct, Ray?

01:14:51.000 Yes, sir.

01:14:52.000 Go ahead, please.

01:14:53.000 What's on your mind?

01:14:55.000 Okay, Mike, is it?

01:14:57.000 Yes, yes sir, Mike Adams.

01:15:00.000 Okay, Mike, I want to kind of chastise you for some of the terminology you use when you're talking about military and police and all that, in the sense that I hear patriots all the time saying that all the cops, military, are not bad, okay?

01:15:22.000 Yeah, I hear you, go ahead.

01:15:26.000 Understand something.

01:15:29.000 The global corporation is here, okay?

01:15:34.000 And we're simply working for a corporation in any status we have in it, okay, as we live, alright?

01:15:42.000 And I tell you, there ain't no way you can quit your job.

01:15:48.000 Like, if you work for IBM and you do a lot of company policy, uh, theoretically you can quit, okay?

01:15:55.000 But this global corporation, IBM and all these other small companies, you know, whatever, they're just subsidiaries of a global corporation.

01:16:06.000 What I mean is that I know a lot of law enforcement, I know sheriffs, sheriff's deputies, for example, they have said they will not participate in, for example, gun confiscation.

01:16:15.000 They have boundaries that are based on their own ethics, their own respect for life and liberty.

01:16:20.000 I'm not saying You know, some of them have those boundaries and some of them don't, obviously.

01:16:25.000 And I just don't want to paint all law enforcement as bad people because they're absolutely not.

01:16:30.000 I know a lot of guys that will defend rights when it comes down to it.

01:16:35.000 So, are you saying that if they work for law enforcement, they're automatically tied into that global system?

01:16:42.000 What exactly are you saying, sir?

01:16:43.000 Okay, let me deal with the word cop, uh, police.

01:16:47.000 When I was a child, they were still called the peace officers.

01:16:50.000 Yeah, right, you're right.

01:16:52.000 Alright, now what would a peace officer, what would you expect from a peace officer if, uh, if you've seen where a situation might get out of control or some damage could take place, you would expect him to come and restore peace.

01:17:04.000 Keep the peace, that's it.

01:17:06.000 Now, what do you think is... Why do they morph this thing over into calling them policemen, Fuller?

01:17:06.000 Alright.

01:17:11.000 They're gonna police you, man.

01:17:13.000 You know?

01:17:14.000 You know, you're right about that.

01:17:15.000 We should say police officer... er, peace officer.

01:17:17.000 See, I did it again.

01:17:19.000 We should say peace officer, and in fact, Alex is good at this, reminding us that they are the servants.

01:17:24.000 that they serve the people.

01:17:26.000 So you're absolutely right about that point.

01:17:28.000 I really appreciate that.

01:17:29.000 Peace officer, we will keep that in mind.

01:17:31.000 I appreciate your call.

01:17:32.000 Let's, it can be an interesting conversation, but I wanna give room to other callers, but I will keep that in mind.

01:17:37.000 Peace officer, yes, got it.

01:17:39.000 Sam in California from the Air Force, it says, go ahead, Sam, you're on the air. - Hey Mike, can you hear me good? - Yeah, you're coming through just fine, go ahead.

01:17:48.000 - Awesome, okay.

01:17:49.000 One quick comment, and then a very short story.

01:17:52.000 Hopefully fairly short.

01:17:55.000 Anyway, if guns kill people, then pencils misspell words, and we should confiscate all the pencils.

01:18:01.000 Well, pencils can stab people too, so I think you're right.

01:18:03.000 We should confiscate all pencils.

01:18:05.000 Especially the sharp ones.

01:18:06.000 Those are the dangerous ones.

01:18:09.000 So in 2007, I re-read George Orwell's 1984, because I was seeing things happening that Reminded me of it, so I figured I should read it again.

01:18:21.000 Well, it killed me to the bone because of the parallels I saw with what's going on in our society today.

01:18:28.000 And then now, since then, it seems like I can't go through a day without listening to some Radio Show and not hear other people saying the same thing that I saw.

01:18:41.000 That we are now living in George Orwell's 1984.

01:18:44.000 Yes.

01:18:45.000 It's not worse.

01:18:48.000 It's chilling to the bone.

01:18:50.000 It truly is.

01:18:52.000 And four years now I've had a feeling in my stomach a lot like Alex says.

01:18:57.000 That the worst is yet to come.

01:19:00.000 Well, you and me both, brother, I feel the same thing.

01:19:02.000 And, you know, we, being beings who have compassion for other humans, for other, our brothers and sisters all across the planet, we don't want to see bloodshed.

01:19:12.000 We don't want to see suffering.

01:19:13.000 We don't want to see loss of freedom.

01:19:15.000 That's why we're here, man.

01:19:17.000 That's why we want to see liberty.

01:19:19.000 We want to see peace.

01:19:20.000 We want to see achievement by humanity.

01:19:22.000 What are your thoughts on that?

01:19:25.000 Yes, we do.

01:19:25.000 And when I see what's going on in Syria, And they're doing that in our name?

01:19:32.000 Makes me sick.

01:19:33.000 It makes me truly sick.

01:19:36.000 I cry.

01:19:37.000 Yeah, it makes me sick, too.

01:19:38.000 I mean, war is sick.

01:19:40.000 It is a sickness.

01:19:41.000 It is a psychosis of power-hungry tyrants who run the world governments.

01:19:46.000 And I appreciate your call.

01:19:47.000 We've got to go to break here.

01:19:48.000 But you're right.

01:19:48.000 War is the desire to have power and dominion over others is a kind of mental disorder.

01:19:55.000 Maybe we should have a new FDA pharmaceutical treat that. 0.98

01:19:58.000 I'm joking.

01:19:59.000 But we'll be right back.

01:19:59.000 Stay with us, okay?

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01:23:58.000 You know, I was really struck by the linguistic reminder of I was really struck by the linguistic reminder of one of the previous callers.

01:24:18.000 He's exactly right.

01:24:20.000 We've got to be careful about what language we use because that language goes right into your brain and becomes a kind of truth.

01:24:27.000 Your brain interprets language and makes it real, even when it's not real.

01:24:30.000 And this is why we get phrases.

01:24:32.000 I wrote down some notes during the break.

01:24:34.000 This is why we get phrases.

01:24:35.000 Oh, and by the way, for just joining us, this is the Alex Jones Show.

01:24:38.000 This is Mike Adams filling in for Alex today.

01:24:41.000 He'll be back tomorrow, by the way.

01:24:43.000 But one of the phrases we often hear in the mainstream media is, of course, gun violence.

01:24:48.000 This is a linguistic trick.

01:24:50.000 It's trying to link guns with the word violence.

01:24:53.000 But was there actually gun violence?

01:24:55.000 Is there such a thing?

01:24:56.000 Violence has to be an act with an intent.

01:24:59.000 And a gun can't have any intent because it has no free will.

01:25:02.000 So you don't see, for example, if there's a machete type of massacre somewhere in some other developing nation, you don't hear them come on the air and say, wow, these people were victims of machete violence.

01:25:15.000 Or if somebody gets stabbed with a knife, you don't hear on the news, oh, there's knife violence.

01:25:19.000 You don't hear that.

01:25:20.000 They only use that phrase for guns.

01:25:23.000 But they don't report all the people that were protected by them, so what about the phrase gun protection?

01:25:29.000 So instead of, you know, what about, let's say, an elderly person, Mrs. Parkerson, whose, the break-in to her house was prevented by a neighbor with a concealed carry permit, and Mrs. Parker was therefore a beneficiary of gun protection.

01:25:46.000 You never hear that on the news.

01:25:48.000 That's not news.

01:25:48.000 They won't report that.

01:25:50.000 Even though that happens maybe, who knows, hundreds of times more often than somebody actually becoming a, quote, victim of being shot by somebody with bad intent.

01:25:59.000 So we gotta watch these words.

01:26:01.000 So, gun violence is a brain trick.

01:26:04.000 That phrase is a trick.

01:26:06.000 And gun protection is actually far more common.

01:26:10.000 Now, some other terms, of course, is peace officer, like the caller mentioned.

01:26:14.000 He's right about that.

01:26:16.000 Instead of law enforcement, we should refer to them as peace officers.

01:26:19.000 And also, instead of public officials or authorities, we should refer to people in the government as public servants.

01:26:29.000 So you got that?

01:26:30.000 These are the three phrases that I want to encourage us all to use, all of you listening out there.

01:26:34.000 We want to be informed and tell the truth using accurate language.

01:26:39.000 We have gun protection when firearms are used in the protection of life and property, and that happens very often.

01:26:46.000 We want to use the phrase peace officer to refer to cops, police, law enforcement, and so on.

01:26:52.000 Peace officer.

01:26:53.000 And then we want to use the phrase public servants when we're talking about Bureaucrats, authorities, enforcers of codes, and things like that.

01:27:04.000 But of course, again, on the mainstream media you're going to get the spin of all this.

01:27:08.000 You're going to get gun violence, you're going to get police officers like they're supposed to police you, and then you're going to get government authorities as if they are the authorities over you and your life.

01:27:19.000 It's all an act, okay?

01:27:20.000 It's all just a facade, a linguistic little mind trick that they use to try to convince you that something is real when it isn't.

01:27:29.000 The truth is that your rights are granted to you by the Creator.

01:27:33.000 They are described by the Bill of Rights.

01:27:36.000 They are then selected powers are delegated to a government for the sole purpose of serving the interests and the protection of life and liberty of the people.

01:27:45.000 That's the way it works. 0.97

01:27:46.000 And anybody who tells you otherwise is psychotic, insane, crazy, evil, deceptive, trying to trick you, trying to take your power, trying to take your money. 0.95

01:27:57.000 Anybody who says the government is the powerful entity and then they grant you the people rights, that person is a dangerous person and doesn't belong in America, period. 0.98

01:28:07.000 They should leave the country, go to some communist regime. 0.83

01:28:10.000 Go join North Korea for all I care. 1.00

01:28:12.000 You can give up your guns, give up your free speech, give up your rights.

01:28:15.000 You can go to North Korea and live in a country where the barbed wire keeps you in.

01:28:20.000 And you can worship the latest version of Kim Jong-il, whoever that happens to be, generation after generation.

01:28:26.000 Yeah, just bow down on the ground, lick their boots, and do your little fake cry for how much you love living under total tyranny.

01:28:34.000 Otherwise, if you want to live in America, You should honor American rights and values and that sacred freedom and liberty that makes America great.

01:28:43.000 And there's no more excuses for any of it.

01:28:44.000 I'm tired of the linguistic mind games.

01:28:47.000 I'm tired of the doublespeak from Obama and Romney the same.

01:28:51.000 I'm tired of just the lies that keep coming out of Washington.

01:28:55.000 It's just too much.

01:28:57.000 I'm just sick of it.

01:28:58.000 So let's tell the truth.

01:28:59.000 And that's what we practice doing right here on InfoWars.com.

01:29:03.000 And of course, I'm happy to be here and be part of that.

01:29:07.000 Coming up, coming up, after the coming break, we've got a great truth teller, a whistleblower, a former employee of GlaxoSmithKline, the company that just pleaded guilty to criminal fraud and ended up paying a $3 billion fine, yeah, billion, to the U.S.

01:29:25.000 government.

01:29:26.000 Kind of wonder where that money goes, by the way.

01:29:28.000 Who gets the $3 billion?

01:29:30.000 Whose budget does that go into?

01:29:32.000 They don't tell you that.

01:29:33.000 But anyway, we're going to have an interview with him, Blair Hamrick, coming up right after this break.

01:29:37.000 Lots of incredible details about the bribery of doctors and much more.

01:29:42.000 It'll blow your mind.

01:29:43.000 But don't go anywhere.

01:29:44.000 We'll be right back.

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01:33:18.000 Thanks for continuing with us.

01:33:20.000 We have a worldwide exclusive for National Radio interview coming up for you right now.

01:33:26.000 The interview is with Blair Hemrick.

01:33:29.000 He is one of the two people, the other is Gregory Thorpe, who were former employees of GlaxoSmithKline.

01:33:36.000 And Blair, in particular, was a drug rep.

01:33:40.000 And as he began to see some, I'll say, not quite so above the board activities going on inside the company, he raised the alarm.

01:33:49.000 And he ended up losing his job and has been out of work for many, many years.

01:33:54.000 We'll talk about that.

01:33:56.000 And ended up turning information over to the Department of Justice, which then reached a $3 billion settlement with GlaxoSmithKline.

01:34:04.000 That was Widely distributed or widely publicized in the last week or so.

01:34:10.000 And it's the largest settlement in the history of Big Pharma.

01:34:13.000 Now Blair joins us now here on the Alex Jones Show to give us details about what he saw going on inside the company.

01:34:20.000 This will give you a clue about the runaway criminality that exists today in what I call mafia medicine.

01:34:28.000 And Blair Hamrick joins us by Skype video to give us the details.

01:34:31.000 Blair, welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

01:34:34.000 Hey, Mike.

01:34:34.000 Nice to be here.

01:34:35.000 Thanks a lot for having me.

01:34:37.000 You bet.

01:34:37.000 It's great to have you on.

01:34:38.000 Now, give us just a quick background for the many listeners across the country and around the world about your... How did you start out with Glaxo?

01:34:48.000 I mean, what position did you have there?

01:34:50.000 I started out with GLADSO as a sales rep, just a sales rep calling on primary care physicians.

01:34:57.000 After a couple of years with the company, I was promoted to what was called a therapeutic area specialist.

01:35:04.000 And what that is, is basically you call on specialists, more specifically neurologists, Doctors who are, you know, who have, you know, not your primary care guys, but your specialists.

01:35:25.000 And my job, essentially, was recruiting these specialists to speak to other physicians about Glaxo products.

01:35:36.000 Now I know that we spoke before and I asked you about the kickbacks and the bribery to doctors.

01:35:43.000 I know that in that position as a specialist, one of your jobs was to recruit doctors and make sure they were paid very well to go on speaking gigs.

01:35:53.000 You told me they could make as much as $2,000 for a 30 minute speech promoting a drug to other physicians.

01:35:59.000 Tell us about how that worked.

01:36:01.000 Well, how that works is, you know, depending on how desirable the physician is.

01:36:06.000 You know, interestingly enough, there's a website where people can look and see if your personal physician is in the pocket of Big Pharma.

01:36:15.000 It's called ProPublica.com.

01:36:17.000 And you can, and now it only goes back for about a year.

01:36:23.000 You know, of course, Pharma doesn't want to disclose what they've been paying the physicians before that, but Anyway, it's based upon how desirable the speaker is, meaning how well thought of he was, or if they were a high rider, if they wrote a lot of prescriptions, if they had a lot of business.

01:36:46.000 And it could be anywhere from $500 a talk to $2,500 was one of the most that one of my physicians got.

01:36:55.000 But they could stack these, they could have multiple talks in one day, I remember you saying, so they could rack up, let's say $6,000 in one day, and it was so lucrative for some doctors, these kickbacks, that they actually stopped seeing patients in their own practice and just became sort of professional speakers making all this money.

01:37:13.000 Right, well, I mean, as I told you before, I mean, some of these offices, I would go, I'm sorry about the dog barking.

01:37:20.000 It's alright, he's enthusiastic about this, too.

01:37:22.000 Yeah, she sure is.

01:37:24.000 Anyway, a lot of these, you know, many times I'd walk into offices and docs are like, oh, you're the guy who sets up the programs?

01:37:33.000 Can you get me a gig?

01:37:34.000 You know, and so, you know, these docs, Uh, you know, they, they would, they, all their travel was paid for.

01:37:43.000 Um, they would, you know, they would schedule them for sometimes a breakfast meeting, a lunch meeting, and a dinner meeting, all in one day.

01:37:50.000 And so they get three honorariums, is what they call it.

01:37:53.000 And so they get three of their speaking fees.

01:37:55.000 So this was characterized by the Department of Justice as a system of kickbacks and it really is generally just called bribery.

01:38:03.000 It seems like these doctors were being financially incentivized or sort of paid as a quote speaking gig when they would write higher prescriptions for the GlaxoSmithKline drugs, but a lot of these doctors really in the open market wouldn't command those kinds of speaking fees and often they would just speak to just maybe six people at a time or things like that.

01:38:24.000 Is that correct?

01:38:25.000 That's correct.

01:38:25.000 I even had one physician.

01:38:28.000 We flew to Louisiana and he wanted me to go with him and he spoke to one physician.

01:38:34.000 So there was five drug reps, one physician, the doctor that I brought in, and we went to a fish camp in Louisiana.

01:38:44.000 I don't recall what his honorarium was at the time, but it was a nice weekend for him to go home to his hometown.

01:38:53.000 And, you know, so I mean, it's a pretty nasty business.

01:39:00.000 I mean, it's, you know, and as I said, you know, if you read ProPublica, you can see that there's guys still making a lot of money doing this.

01:39:11.000 Well, yeah, one doctor, this came out in the Department of Justice lawsuit or settlement documents.

01:39:16.000 One doctor was paid, I believe, around $2 million dollars, It also came out that another celebrity radio doctor had received, I think, $275,000 that was reported in the Wall Street Journal.

01:39:28.000 And that he then went on the air and discussed, I think, intimacy or depression during intimacy.

01:39:34.000 That's right.

01:39:35.000 But failed to disclose to his audience that he was taking money from the drug company.

01:39:39.000 That's right.

01:39:40.000 Yeah, I think that was Dr. Drew.

01:39:42.000 Yeah, right, Dr. Drew.

01:39:44.000 Dr. Drew, and yeah, he was discussing intimacy and depression because many of the SSRIs have sexual side effects, decreased libido, and so what Glaxo decided to do was that because Wellbutrin's not an SSRI, they decided to promote it to increase libido.

01:40:11.000 And that's when they came up with that catchphrase, uh, you know, the happy horny skinny drug. 0.62

01:40:17.000 Um, and you know, it was, uh, you know, I mean, these are, you know, these are not, these are chemical compounds that are very dangerous and they're not toys, you know, it's not, it's not a game.

01:40:27.000 And, and unfortunately, uh, the company just seems very cavalier, uh, and the way that they, they handled it.

01:40:34.000 Now you told me in a previous conversation, and folks you can check out some of these quotes on naturalnews.com, also on infowars.com, I'm sure these quotes will be there, remind the guys to post that from our site, that most of the slideshows that these physicians used during their speeches for which they were receiving pretty big dollars, some of them or most of them actually came from the company marketing departments That's correct.

01:41:00.000 So essentially, the company would hand them money, pay their airfare, set up the hotel, and then give them a PowerPoint presentation to go out and speak?

01:41:08.000 Give them a PowerPoint presentation.

01:41:08.000 That's correct.

01:41:10.000 And then, you know, it was one of the jobs of the representative, you know, because there would always be a representative or manager.

01:41:19.000 At these conferences or these continuing medical education, you know, full tongue-in-cheek there.

01:41:29.000 But just along those lines, this kind of quote education is required by state medical licensing boards for doctors to keep their licenses.

01:41:38.000 They have to go and submit themselves to this kind of propaganda, right?

01:41:41.000 That's correct.

01:41:42.000 That's correct.

01:41:43.000 It's incredible.

01:41:44.000 Yeah, it's, you know, it's a big facade.

01:41:47.000 It's, you know, it's absolutely a facade and, you know, at some point in time, you know, myself and Greg Thorpe Uh, just said, you know, this is wrong, and, and what, what do, if a child has, uh, you know, a seizure because of the drug, um, that, that, uh, we're promoting, uh, is given to a child when it's not even indicated.

01:42:11.000 It's for 18 and above.

01:42:12.000 It's clearly stated in the package insert, it's not for children.

01:42:16.000 Um, you know, who's at fault there?

01:42:18.000 And, and where does the buck stop?

01:42:21.000 Right.

01:42:22.000 I have that question for you.

01:42:24.000 What caused you to stand up and speak out when most people would be happy to have a cushy job?

01:42:29.000 I mean, you've been out of work.

01:42:31.000 I think you were blackballed by the pharmaceutical industry.

01:42:33.000 I know you're not claiming that, but that's just what it looks like to me.

01:42:37.000 You've been out of work for now, what, 10 years during this battle?

01:42:40.000 I've had some odd jobs since then, but on all intents and purposes, I have never financially recovered.

01:42:50.000 When I left the company, I was making about $140,000 a year.

01:42:52.000 $140,000 a year.

01:42:55.000 And so, you know, because of pending litigation, I can't discuss.

01:42:59.000 Yeah, I understand.

01:43:00.000 The circumstances that led to my dismissal.

01:43:03.000 Sure.

01:43:04.000 And by the way, the law firm, I want to give a shout out to Kenny and McCafferty out of Philadelphia.

01:43:08.000 That law firm specializes in whistleblower cases and they took on your case and they achieved quite an amazing victory.

01:43:17.000 The largest settlement in the history.

01:43:19.000 And that law firm specializes in fraud cases.

01:43:22.000 Medical fraud, sometimes tax fraud.

01:43:25.000 I see your dog very much approves of that as well.

01:43:30.000 Yeah, I wish I could, you know, I know we're under time constraints, so I'd go in and try to get her to stifle.

01:43:36.000 I apologize.

01:43:37.000 Izzy! 0.99

01:43:38.000 That's right, let me throw in a comment here.

01:43:41.000 Yeah, go, if you want to do that.

01:43:42.000 Let me grab the dog. 0.97

01:43:43.000 Okay, let me throw in some comments here while you're doing that.

01:43:46.000 We'll have better audio clarity for everybody.

01:43:48.000 But you know, folks, this is real radio.

01:43:49.000 This is live radio.

01:43:51.000 And Blair Hamrick, you know, that's where he lives.

01:43:53.000 He gave up a cushy job.

01:43:55.000 It could have been a very wealthy situation for him.

01:43:58.000 He gave that up to tell the truth, to blow the whistle, so that he could then help protect other people from this kind of thing going on.

01:44:05.000 And by the way, he told me in a previous interview that at the time he left GlaxoSmithKline, they had over 40,000 speakers on their Speakers Bureau.

01:44:14.000 So just as we were talking about this, you know, $2,000 for 30 minutes that the doctors were getting paid as, quote, kickbacks.

01:44:21.000 It turns out there were more than 40,000.

01:44:24.000 The court documents revealed there were 49,000 speakers on Glaxo's Speakers Bureau, which, again, even the Department of Justice characterizes as a kind of an elaborate network of kickbacks that Glaxo has pleaded guilty to conducting.

01:44:41.000 This is not a debate.

01:44:43.000 It's not like Glaxo is denying this.

01:44:45.000 They have pleaded guilty to this and they said we're going to make some changes, we're going to do better.

01:44:50.000 But they pleaded guilty to criminal fraud.

01:44:56.000 I mean one of the things that's interesting and why I mean I'm not with the company anymore and I've been away for a while so you know I can't attest to what's going on currently but you know you're talking about compounds you know right now in the newspaper you know they made a big to-do about stop paying, you know, stopping paying the reps on market share and going to educating physicians.

01:44:56.000 Go ahead Blair.

01:45:21.000 And that's how they're going to start paying their reps.

01:45:23.000 But how much can you educate a physician on a compound that's 30 years old or 25 years old?

01:45:30.000 I mean, you know, you've got a drug like, for instance, Advir that is a new compound, but it's basically two very old compounds together.

01:45:40.000 That's right.

01:45:41.000 So how much more education is a person with a business degree going to give a physician that did 10 years of school on a compound that's 25 years old?

01:45:52.000 Well, that's a really good point.

01:45:54.000 And, you know, the drug companies are desperate to try to come up with new combinations that they then spin as being breakthrough drugs when, like you described, they're really the same old chemicals, just sort of repackaged.

01:46:04.000 But let's talk about Off-label marketing and marketing to children, because this is something else that Glaxo pleaded guilty to.

01:46:11.000 That's right.

01:46:12.000 They admitted that they were illegally or in violation of FDA regulations, I should say, marketing these drugs to children that were never approved for children, never even tested for children, no safety record for children.

01:46:27.000 Give us the lowdown on that, Blair, as the insider who saw it firsthand.

01:46:31.000 I mean, you're talking about drugs where just a percent market share can mean a huge sum of money.

01:46:31.000 Well, sure.

01:46:39.000 So, you know, the company was very concerned about patent expirations on these compounds, and they were trying to squeeze every penny they could.

01:46:48.000 So, you know, they would, you know, they would, you know, say with like Wellbutrin or Paxil, you know, they were trying to Squeeze every penny they could, so they were trying to find new avenues to create, to generate more money.

01:47:03.000 And you know, one of the things that you got to ask yourself is like, when you are selling off label to a child, you know, the package insert has dosing and administration.

01:47:12.000 Well, what do you tell a doctor, you know, who's going to use it on a 12 year old?

01:47:16.000 I mean, how do you tell them to dose it?

01:47:17.000 I mean, there's, there's some inherent dangers with that.

01:47:20.000 But just to be clear Blair, so when you were in meetings with your managers being trained on how to approach doctors and what to say, I just want to be clear, were they telling you specifically, you push this drug for children, you know, wink wink, or how did that go down?

01:47:35.000 What actually took place?

01:47:37.000 Well, sure.

01:47:38.000 Well, there was, absolutely.

01:47:40.000 In fact, you can look in some of the court documents, there's some documents about, to the effect, that show that they were wanting to promote Wellbutrin for children in a diseased state.

01:47:56.000 And, you know, I don't want to say too much, but the allegations in the document are for ADHD in children.

01:48:05.000 So, you know, it was a nod, nod, wink, wink.

01:48:08.000 We all, you know, there was a written set of rules, and then there were the real rules, and the real rules were basically, if you didn't sell off-label, you weren't going to get the market shares, and if you didn't get the market shares, you wouldn't be employed very long.

01:48:23.000 So there was this really aggressive push and obviously your salary was tied into probably bonuses for how many prescriptions were written by doctors off-label and on-label both.

01:48:33.000 Is that how it worked?

01:48:34.000 That's correct.

01:48:35.000 And you know, they couldn't, you know, with the way that they were tracking the prescriptions, they couldn't distinguish what was on-label or what was off-label.

01:48:44.000 It was just get the prescriptions at whatever cost.

01:48:48.000 And like you said, if you weren't making the numbers, if you were falling to the bottom half of the pool, then they would target you and coach you To start pulling your numbers up and so the way to get numbers up was to do speaking programs, bringing these thought leaders in to engage with your physicians, whether it was just bringing a doctor in for a lunch

01:49:16.000 or or having a dinner program and uh... you know uh... many times i mean uh... so often they would talk off-label whether you know whether it was for we don't want you to for weight loss or uh... for a you know a d h d for uh... for sexual dysfunction or you know or you know just children and in the whole gamut i mean it was it was just you know the you would have thought the drug should have been in the war in the water Well they're trying to do that too!

01:49:45.000 Don't say that to too many people, they're going to try that!

01:49:48.000 They want to put cholesterol drugs in the water supply, that's how crazy they are.

01:49:53.000 But you mentioned Wellbutrid in particular, that the catchphrase that you would repeat to doctors if you only had a minute to talk to them was the quote, happy horny skinny drug.

01:50:01.000 And yet there was no data, there was no clinical trial data whatsoever on the treating sexual dysfunction or weight loss at all right so that was just uh just a fairy tale there may have been some shady trials or some some data uh you know they also did this thing called the facts back where you would engage with your doctor um you know and and of course you would they they you know they were

01:50:30.000 they would instruct you to um according to allegations in the complaint they would instruct you to um uh right you know doctor requests off label information on whatever drug and then you would call an 800 number Alright, Blair.

01:50:47.000 We gotta go to a break here.

01:50:49.000 Stay with us.

01:50:50.000 We'll continue with you on the other side of this break.

01:50:52.000 Incredible information here from an insider previously with GlaxoSmithKline.

01:50:58.000 We'll be right back with much more straight ahead.

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01:54:16.000 All right, thanks for continuing with us here on the Alex Jones Show.

01:54:18.000 Mike Adams, the health ranger, filling in.

01:54:20.000 And we are talking with former Glaxo employee and now whistleblower Blair Hamrick, who is one of the top two key people responsible for taking evidence to the Department of Justice that resulted in the $3 billion settlement, the largest in the history of medicine.

01:54:38.000 Wow, incredible.

01:54:39.000 Hey Blair, let me ask you this.

01:54:40.000 The typical uninformed consumer out there, let's say just a mainstream news watching, someone who's not really informed, doesn't, for example, listen to the Alex Jones Show so that they're not really awakened that much.

01:54:53.000 That kind of person thinks, this is what they believe, and I want you to tell us why this belief is wrong if you think so, but they believe that all the drugs are meticulously tested by upstanding scientists, that it's the gold standard of evidence-based medicine, and that the FDA scrutinizes all of this information and makes sure that drugs are only approved and released to the public after just these huge in-depth studies proving their safety and efficacy, and that the drug companies, they're really out to just help humanity.

01:55:22.000 And in fact, they only kind of make money accidentally.

01:55:25.000 It's not their main intent.

01:55:27.000 They're really just trying to help people.

01:55:28.000 You know, it should be like a big nonprofit organization is the way they portray themselves.

01:55:33.000 So what's wrong with that view of medicine today?

01:55:37.000 When they start testing it for approval, according to the FDA, a new drug only needs to show that it's better than placebo, that it works better than placebo.

01:55:55.000 So there's many compounds out there that have been available for years and years and years, that are available generically, that are pennies on the dollar, and these drug companies would never put these products up against Those products sometimes, head-to-head, they only put it through against placebo.

01:56:16.000 Because if it's better than placebo, then they get the approval.

01:56:20.000 And then, whereas if they put it head-to-head against something that is already approved, and is cheap, and is efficacious and safe, and they show inferiority to that product, well then, you're taking a drug that may be eight, nine dollars a pill, and something that may take three cents

01:56:40.000 Yeah, just to rephrase what you're saying, a lot of the new drugs that are hyped up that are expensive, like you say $8, $9, $10 a pill, some are even a lot more than that, $50 a pill in some areas, it may be an old nickel a pill drug actually works better, but they never run the head-to-head test because that would show that the new drug isn't worth the extra $10.

01:57:03.000 Right.

01:57:04.000 That's correct.

01:57:05.000 You know, and maybe safer.

01:57:08.000 You know, I mean, there's many compounds out there.

01:57:10.000 For instance, they've got, Glaxo has a new product called Treximid, which is a combination of an older product of Emetrex and naproxen.

01:57:20.000 Naproxen, I think it's either naproxen or naproxen.

01:57:22.000 It's like a common painkiller, yeah.

01:57:23.000 Right, and naproxen has been, you know, that drug is like 45 years old.

01:57:29.000 And Imitrex came out in 19, I want to say 1991, I think is when that drug was launched.

01:57:35.000 So there you have, you've got a 20-year-old drug and a 40-year-old drug.

01:57:40.000 They mix them together and they call it a new drug.

01:57:42.000 Well, and then at the same time you've got the drug companies actively interfering with the generic drug manufacturers trying to bring drugs to market for cheaper prices.

01:57:51.000 I saw, for example, I think AstraZeneca just got slapped by the court for trying to engage in that.

01:57:56.000 Pfizer's being sued under allegations of price fixing and monopolization to prevent a competing generic cholesterol drug from entering the market that would potentially reduce their sales of, I believe, Lipitor.

01:58:06.000 So you've got these drug companies actually working against the interests of consumers.

01:58:11.000 You know, why doesn't the FTC get involved in anti-competitive practices with these companies?

01:58:16.000 I don't know.

01:58:17.000 I can't answer that question.

01:58:18.000 But, you know, what I can say is that for every day that a generic stays off the market, they make tens of millions, perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars a day.

01:58:30.000 Yeah, they're making money every minute. 0.89

01:58:32.000 Stay with us, Blair.

01:58:33.000 Please stay with us.

01:58:34.000 We're going to continue in just a minute with much more from Blair Hamrick.

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02:00:34.000 We're joined in this segment, continuing with Blair Hamrick, the whistleblower, former employee of GlaxoSmithKline, one of the key informants that went to the U.S.

02:00:43.000 government that then took action and got a $3 billion settlement out of Glaxo.

02:00:49.000 Now, we're going to continue with Blair for this segment, and in fact for the next half hour or so.

02:00:55.000 I hope you can stay with us, Blair.

02:00:56.000 But here's some of the stories we just spoke about.

02:01:00.000 AstraZeneca tries to block generic drug approvals, gets slapped by the court.

02:01:06.000 And there's just another case of pharmaceutical companies trying to interfere with free market practices that would actually benefit consumers.

02:01:13.000 And this is routine.

02:01:15.000 You probably weren't in that area of the company, Blair, but do you have any other knowledge about drug companies blocking generic drugs that would benefit consumers?

02:01:25.000 Well, you know, if they don't block, they can also do things like manufacture the compound for the generic companies.

02:01:35.000 Many times after the drug is made, it gets the approval generically, and they were unsuccessful You know, usually successful at making that time a lot longer, but then when the generic finally comes out, then they'll cut a deal with the generic house to manufacture either the raw compound for them to press it into a pill, or maybe even manufacture it themselves.

02:02:05.000 Sometimes they'll have two lines running at the same time, the exact same pill on each line.

02:02:15.000 One's going in a generic bottle, one's going in a brand name bottle.

02:02:18.000 So, I mean, there's a lot of malfeasance going on here.

02:02:22.000 Well, I mean, there's nothing, let's say, technically illegal about having a generic line.

02:02:27.000 But where I have issues is...

02:02:30.000 Where are these drugs manufactured?

02:02:31.000 Because I remember reading a lot of stories talking about manufacturing facilities, for example, in Puerto Rico and in India, where they would find machine parts in the pills and they would find specks of paint from the machines.

02:02:47.000 Cheryl Eckert was the whistleblower in another Glaxo case about a year ago, where she was reporting malfeasance going on in Puerto Rico, where the drugs were mislabeled, all kinds of things, and even having the reports written to North Carolina in Spanish so that the people at the main office couldn't read the reports. 0.98

02:03:13.000 You know, I mean, and you know, unfortunately, Cheryl, um, you know, because I was in sales, I was, I'm a pretty good communicator, um, where Cheryl, um, was on 60 Minutes, and she, you know, her, her specialty was something else, and so she wasn't a communicator, and so she was dismissed very quickly, um, but she, her story is, is, uh, is significant in itself, uh, and, you know, and, and, and so,

02:03:40.000 You know, what these companies are doing, it's a very filthy business.

02:03:44.000 And, you know, like I said to you in our last interview, I mean, what are they?

02:03:48.000 They're a corporate defendant.

02:03:49.000 And what's a corporate defendant?

02:03:51.000 It's nothing but a table full of attorneys, you know, justifying behaviors and making it up.

02:03:56.000 You know, I mean, when they can't justify a behavior, they just make a story up.

02:04:02.000 Yeah, I want to talk to you about that in more detail.

02:04:04.000 This segment is not carried by all of the radio affiliates, so when we get into the next segment, I want to ask you about CEOs being held criminally responsible, which hasn't happened yet, but I believe that should happen, and I want to get your views on that, Blair.

02:04:20.000 Sure.

02:04:21.000 How come these companies can simply admit to felony crimes, admit to fraud, admit to violating federal law, pay a fine, get away with it, nobody gets Yeah.

02:04:32.000 arrested nobody goes to jail nobody goes to prison and they just keep doing it over and over again in this case for example glaxo paid his three billion dollar fine out of quote cash reserves yeah this company's so big they have three billion dollars sitting around can you imagine that's like around hey is there three billion dollars under this table anywhere they just pull it out pay it to the government keep doing business it's incredible but stay with us blair uh we've got to go to a quick break and then we'll be right back on the other side with more insider details

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02:08:09.000 All right, we're continuing our interview with Blair Hamrick, the insider with GlaxoSmithKline.

02:08:23.000 Thank you for joining us, continuing with us on the third hour of the Alex Jones Show.

02:08:27.000 This is Mike Adams, the health ranger, the editor of NaturalNews.com filling in.

02:08:32.000 And if you want to find some documents related to this story, they're on the front page of NaturalNews.com right now, by the way, a PDF that you can check out some of the core documents.

02:08:39.000 I also want to apologize to the callers.

02:08:42.000 We need to clear the board.

02:08:44.000 of callers that are in the queue right now, please, guys.

02:08:46.000 And I want to invite new callers to come in to ask questions about medicine or the pharmaceuticals in particular as we have Blair Hamrick on as a guest. 0.95

02:08:57.000 And then, again, I apologize to the callers who are on the board about the gun confiscation issue.

02:09:02.000 Maybe we'll bring that up later in the show.

02:09:04.000 Again, get back to that.

02:09:05.000 The number is 1-800-259-9231.

02:09:06.000 So go ahead and call in if you've got questions or comments about Big Pharma in general.

02:09:15.000 Just remember, Blair can't answer your health questions and I cannot either.

02:09:19.000 We're not doctors.

02:09:21.000 So please don't ask us health questions.

02:09:23.000 But Blair, getting back to you, we spoke about the importance of having some corporate responsibility for these kinds of actions.

02:09:32.000 Why is it that nobody's going to jail?

02:09:36.000 Nobody's being arrested.

02:09:37.000 The CEO of Glaxo is not being investigated or prosecuted for these crimes that his company has admitted to committing.

02:09:47.000 Why is that?

02:09:48.000 How does that make you feel?

02:09:48.000 Well, I mean, it's the veil of the corporation.

02:09:52.000 I mean, you know, a corporation is basically a sociopath, and they have so many veils of protection that...

02:10:02.000 You know, and so many attorneys, you know, nobody's gonna face the music.

02:10:06.000 And, you know, unfortunately, maybe somebody in the UK will wake up.

02:10:11.000 I mean, I've already heard that some Prime Ministers in the UK are calling for an investigation of Glaxo to see if they really have change like they say they have.

02:10:21.000 And, you know, quite frankly, if they are a change company, then why doesn't GlaxoHR give me a call and try to hire me back in their Uh, in their compliance department.

02:10:32.000 I'd gladly go back to work for them in their compliance department.

02:10:34.000 Oh yeah, I bet they would love that.

02:10:36.000 You, you in their compliance department.

02:10:38.000 Uh, but hey, who knows?

02:10:40.000 Maybe that's some way they could actually show that they're serious about reforms.

02:10:44.000 But here's something interesting.

02:10:45.000 In the natural products industry, if a, let's say a provider of cherry supplements is investigated by the FTC, For what is essentially the same as off-label marketing, or making invalid marketing claims.

02:10:59.000 The FTC will often go in and seize all their inventory, shut down their entire company, seize the entire customer email list, seize all the computers, all the literature, everything.

02:11:09.000 This happened to the Life Extension Foundation many years ago, by the way, in an FDA raid.

02:11:14.000 And then they will require the company to refund the money to every customer in the history of that company.

02:11:20.000 So my question is, as someone who's covered this journalistically, why doesn't the FTC or the FDA go in and require Glaxo to refund all the money from all the sales of these drugs that they admitted to off-label fraudulent criminal marketing?

02:11:39.000 Wouldn't that make sense?

02:11:40.000 Refund everybody!

02:11:41.000 Well, absolutely.

02:11:42.000 I mean, you know, listen, one of the things, I mean, I've suffered, my family and I have suffered for me blowing the whistle, no question, but I haven't suffered nearly as much as, say, some mother or father whose child committed suicide because their child's doctor was marketed Yeah.

02:12:01.000 paxel for off-label i mean so i mean i keep that in perspective yeah um you know i i don't know it would be a breath of fresh air if uh if the punishment fit the crime it really would be because then it would it would be a disincentive exactly and the companies would stop doing the doing the behavior that's the issue You just nailed it right there, Blair.

02:12:21.000 It's a disincentive.

02:12:22.000 Because right now, let's say Glaxo might have made, I'm just guessing, $30 billion off of selling these drugs.

02:12:28.000 So, okay, $30 billion.

02:12:30.000 They set aside $3 billion and have a stack of cash in the CEO's office, let's say.

02:12:34.000 That'd be a pretty big stack, even in fiat currency.

02:12:38.000 But they take the $3 billion.

02:12:40.000 When they get caught, they take the $3 billion, hand it to the feds, and say, we're going to keep doing business.

02:12:47.000 And they never have to pay back their profits that they made illegitimately in the first place.

02:12:52.000 So they just keep doing business.

02:12:54.000 It's just a cost of business.

02:12:55.000 It never ends.

02:12:56.000 And the way the law reads, the way the False Claims Act reads, it's supposed to be $10,000 per violation.

02:13:06.000 So when you start thinking about every prescription, a $10,000 fine per violation, uh, you know, the company and the company's not allowed to do business with the, uh, if convicted, the company's not allowed to do business with the federal government at all.

02:13:20.000 Well, that's the other thing.

02:13:21.000 Pfizer setting up the dummy corporation to take the fall, you know, it's all smoke and mirrors.

02:13:28.000 Why does Medicare and Medicaid keep doing business with these companies that admit to felony crimes?

02:13:34.000 Why does Obamacare force us to do business with these companies by forcing us to buy into a health insurance system?

02:13:43.000 And I know your thoughts on, you know, you like the fact that everybody needs some kind of health care safety net.

02:13:50.000 I understand that.

02:13:51.000 But shouldn't we have a choice and not be forced to do business with criminal companies?

02:13:59.000 I concur with that completely.

02:14:00.000 I mean, I think that, you know, That, you know, like our education system, everyone has a right to a basic high school education.

02:14:09.000 Right.

02:14:10.000 You know, I think that, you know, we should, everyone should be able to get, you know, health care, but I don't think, you know, the way, what's been proposed is the right way to go about it.

02:14:20.000 No, look, I used to live in Taiwan and that's why I went out of college, because we're in an economic recession at that time.

02:14:29.000 And there they have a healthcare system that is kind of a government-run system, but it's dirt cheap.

02:14:35.000 An employer at that time, literally they were paying about $4 a month per employee for full coverage.

02:14:42.000 $4 a month!

02:14:42.000 Now today that might be $20 a month, but imagine if U.S.

02:14:46.000 employers only had to pay $20 a month for each employee.

02:14:50.000 I don't think there would be much debate about that.

02:14:52.000 Part of the problem with Obamacare is that it's so expensive it bankrupts the companies.

02:14:57.000 It bankrupts families and now it's going to be hit with a tax.

02:15:00.000 I mean, I didn't mean to get you into the political issue, Blair.

02:15:02.000 Sure.

02:15:03.000 But, you know, the criminality of the drug companies becomes an issue when we're forced to do business with those companies.

02:15:10.000 I mean, you wouldn't do business with a known criminal if you could help it.

02:15:10.000 Right.

02:15:15.000 Absolutely not.

02:15:17.000 And you know, one of the things that's interesting you brought up is the number one cause of bankruptcy in the United States is medical bills.

02:15:24.000 That's right.

02:15:25.000 Well said, Blair.

02:15:26.000 Let's go to some calls.

02:15:27.000 We've got callers on the line.

02:15:28.000 And let's go to Cindy in Iowa first. 0.93

02:15:29.000 Cindy, you're on the air.

02:15:30.000 people who declare bankruptcy, many of them have insurance.

02:15:30.000 Go ahead.

02:15:34.000 So, I mean, just because you have insurance doesn't guarantee that they're not going to come after you and bankrupt you.

02:15:40.000 Well said, Blair.

02:15:41.000 Let's go to some calls.

02:15:42.000 We've got callers on the line and let's go to Cindy in Iowa first. 0.94

02:15:46.000 Cindy, you're on the air.

02:15:47.000 Go ahead.

02:15:48.000 Hi, Mike.

02:15:48.000 What's your question?

02:15:50.000 Thank you so much for having this guest.

02:15:53.000 I, uh, I work at a research facility that has all the companies that y'all named.

02:15:58.000 I wanted to say that I don't think the efficacy of a lot of the drugs can be so pure as they're reporting to the FDA.

02:16:07.000 When we perform procedures on subjects that they do these studies for a living and you're supposed to have a 30-day washout, but yet they do, because there's not like a main database to show all the research places who have done a study.

02:16:25.000 People will do it with those drugs in their system. 0.82

02:16:30.000 Because of money and the financial benefit, way before 30 days, and I know this because I've been working at this facility over 10 years, and I've heard, you know, subjects talk.

02:16:42.000 And so that is so, to me, how, in this age of, you know, technology, how can that be going on?

02:16:49.000 Because that's the efficacy and what y'all were talking about, the safeness of these drugs.

02:16:54.000 So you're saying that about the 30-day washout, you're saying that then they decide, they eliminate people from the trial that are having bad results to shape the data to look better, that kind of thing?

02:17:06.000 No, what I'm saying are the subjects, there's no regulation because the subjects are lying.

02:17:13.000 They're going to other facilities before that washout and doing studies and there's no database in the research industry to have And so how can the efficacy of the drug, you know what I'm saying?

02:17:25.000 Yeah, so they're actually involved in multiple clinical trials at the same time and stacking drugs and things like that.

02:17:32.000 Good question.

02:17:33.000 Good question, Cindy.

02:17:34.000 Thanks for your call.

02:17:35.000 Blair, your comments on that.

02:17:37.000 I know you weren't in the research side of the company, so your comments may be limited, but does that ring a bell to anything?

02:17:43.000 What are your thoughts?

02:17:44.000 Well, I mean, I do know how to read the studies, and I can pick apart a good study and a bad study.

02:17:50.000 And unfortunately, many of the people that have to be in these, you know, that are in these studies, they're doing it for financial reasons.

02:17:58.000 They're not doing it because, you know, they just coincidentally happen to be at a doctor's office and have this disease state.

02:18:08.000 So, you know, if you have people in multiple studies taking multiple products, Then you're going to have, you know, you're going to have skewed results, whether it's going to be, you know, skewed positive or skewed negative.

02:18:19.000 You're not going to have the, you're going to have inappropriate results.

02:18:24.000 You know, the results... I'm just thinking, what kind of person would, I mean, I guess, you know, the economy is being destroyed by Obama policies.

02:18:31.000 Well, virtually every, every president has been destroying the economy lately, but...

02:18:37.000 People are desperate for work and income, so, I mean, are they literally just selling their bodies into multiple clinical trials to get drugged up and paid something?

02:18:45.000 I mean, that sounds like suicide to me.

02:18:46.000 Yeah, I wouldn't do it.

02:18:49.000 I mean, as desperate as I've been in the past 10 years, I wouldn't do it either.

02:18:53.000 But you see it in the newspaper all the time, you know, drug study will pay you for your time.

02:18:58.000 And so, you know, you get to see the doctor for free.

02:19:01.000 And so, you know, they coerce you into this.

02:19:04.000 And yeah, you become a human guinea pig.

02:19:06.000 Wow.

02:19:07.000 Wow.

02:19:07.000 And then, of course, well, I remember the quote.

02:19:11.000 This was a Pharma discussion behind the scenes.

02:19:13.000 Why do you use human guinea pigs?

02:19:15.000 The answer is they're cheaper than monkeys.

02:19:18.000 I mean, lab monkeys cost more money than paying a human down the street to do it.

02:19:24.000 It's incredible.

02:19:25.000 And, and, you know, the animal rights folks, you know, would be offended if they, you know, if, you know, what they do to the rats and the rabbits, but with what they do to humans, it's, you know, hey, we got to get rid of all the human beings.

02:19:42.000 Then there's experiments like in Nigeria on children.

02:19:45.000 There's experiments in Guatemala on the prisoners that took place.

02:19:48.000 The whole history.

02:19:49.000 Jonas Salk and his experiment.

02:19:51.000 Experiments on antibiotics and prisoners and all kinds of things.

02:19:55.000 Mental asylums.

02:19:56.000 Incredible.

02:19:57.000 A lot more straight ahead.

02:19:58.000 Stay with us here on the Alex Jones Show.

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02:24:09.000 All right, we're back.

02:24:18.000 Thank you for continuing with us.

02:24:20.000 We've got Blair Hamrick for just about five more minutes, and thank you for continuing to stay with us, Blair.

02:24:27.000 Wow, a lot of great information you've already shared with us.

02:24:30.000 We've also got callers on the line.

02:24:31.000 Are you okay to take another call, Blair?

02:24:34.000 Sure.

02:24:34.000 All right, here we go.

02:24:35.000 Roger from Minnesota calling in.

02:24:37.000 Roger, you're on the air.

02:24:38.000 Thanks for joining us.

02:24:39.000 What's on your mind?

02:24:41.000 Yes, first of all, I want to congratulate Blair for being a whistleblower because it takes a lot of guts and a lot of courage to do that.

02:24:46.000 But what's on my mind, and Blair might be able to respond to this too, I just had my first granddaughter about a year or so ago and I've been able to convince my daughter and son-in-law of the evils of vaccination.

02:24:55.000 I'm totally anti-vaccination, anti-big pharma.

02:24:57.000 But my daughter has supposedly done some reading herself also, and she just thinks at a minimum my daughter should have two shots, the pertussis and the polio vaccine.

02:25:07.000 Of course, I read about the polio vaccine, and the reason my daughter thinks she ought to get the polio vaccine, they plan to travel, go to Europe, and, of course, India has a high incidence of polio, and I know it's caused by the vaccinations they're receiving over there.

02:25:20.000 So my daughter is very intelligent, my son-in-law is very intelligent, and they respect me, they respect my knowledge, but I just can't get them to convince them, hey, don't give my granddaughter any vaccinations.

02:25:31.000 None of them are any good.

02:25:32.000 Well, you know, the polio vaccine, I mean, we've run those right here on InfoWars.

02:25:36.000 I'll ask you, Blair, for your comments in a second.

02:25:38.000 I know you weren't involved in the vaccine division there, but the polio vaccine has had stealth viruses, SV40, in it throughout history.

02:25:47.000 And there's a lot of paralysis happening today in India, in particular, from the vaccine itself.

02:25:52.000 So people get the vaccine and then they end up with paralysis.

02:25:55.000 Uh, so we know, we know these vaccines are not clean.

02:25:58.000 I mean, just come on, just look at, uh, I mean, the caller's right.

02:26:02.000 You can't trust these companies.

02:26:04.000 Uh, Blair, your, your thoughts?

02:26:05.000 Well, I tell you what, I was watching Alex's show, um, a couple of weeks ago, and he had the, I forgot the lady's name, who has that movie that's on Alex's website, uh, The Common Good.

02:26:17.000 Oh yes, right.

02:26:19.000 Yeah, I don't recall her name at the moment either.

02:26:22.000 Manoukian, right?

02:26:23.000 Right, right.

02:26:24.000 And you know, I haven't seen the film, but I did see her interview and I found her interview captivating.

02:26:31.000 I like the fact that, you know, she's not so skewed one way or the other.

02:26:37.000 She's trying to bring both sides of the issue. 0.99

02:26:40.000 Yeah.

02:26:40.000 And let you decide for yourself.

02:26:42.000 So I would recommend for Roger to buy that video.

02:26:47.000 I think that's great.

02:26:48.000 I haven't seen it, so I can't endorse it.

02:26:50.000 That's a great idea.

02:26:52.000 In fact, I think that's available at InfowarsStore.com, isn't it?

02:26:55.000 The video?

02:26:56.000 Yeah, I think so.

02:26:58.000 Yeah, I think so.

02:26:59.000 And, you know, and I'm not sitting here trying to temp one of your products.

02:27:03.000 I mean, but at the same time, it's, it's, you know, I mean, information is power.

02:27:09.000 Well, yeah, and I think it's important to hear both sides of the story.

02:27:12.000 First, there's the deceptive, evil, lying pharma side.

02:27:16.000 And then there's the truth side.

02:27:18.000 To the story.

02:27:18.000 So yeah, here are both sides.

02:27:20.000 I mean, hey, if you want to believe folks out there, if you want to, you know, be injected with the DNA and RNA fragments from diseased animals, go ahead, get vaccinated.

02:27:29.000 Bill Gates wants you to be a lower population.

02:27:33.000 Infertility, reduce human population, you can be part of that. 0.99

02:27:36.000 You win the Darwin Award.

02:27:38.000 You can give yourself the Darwin Award by getting vaccinated.

02:27:41.000 That's my answer to that.

02:27:42.000 Let's take another call, Blair, because I love those calls.

02:27:44.000 We've got Ed in Arizona now joining us.

02:27:47.000 Ed, you're on the air with Blair Hamrick.

02:27:48.000 Go ahead.

02:27:49.000 Hey, great to talk to both of you guys.

02:27:51.000 I just wanted to get your take on the massive drugging of the youth we have going on in America right now.

02:27:56.000 I, as a teenager, was kind of rebellious, kind of questioning the system.

02:28:00.000 So, you know, my parents, they meant no harm.

02:28:03.000 They thought they were doing what was best for me at the time.

02:28:05.000 Took me to see a doctor, and long story short, Good point.

02:28:09.000 put on a sexer and had some real nasty side effects i mean i turned just into an absolute zombie gained a bunch of weight and there's no way you can wake up if you're taking those drugs so i just wanted to get your guys a take on that good point go ahead blair well i tell you what you know i mean unfortunately you know what what pharmaceutical companies have done to bastardize the research um you know and and you know when i was a a rep they used to call

02:28:38.000 you know they some of the reps other reps from competing companies would call effects or side effects or and And, you know, I mean, just, just beating up drugs for no reason, but, you know, I don't know whether it was a primary care physician that put you on, on the medication or, Whether it was a psychiatrist that did so, I mean, you know, unfortunately, these compounds have side effects, and they're dangerous.

02:29:03.000 So, you know, to cavalierly, I mean, I'm sure your parents were just trying to help you out, and because, you know, going through, you know, the problems of adolescence.

02:29:15.000 But, you know, I mean, Childhood is a disease, I guess.

02:29:22.000 It's called the human condition.

02:29:24.000 People get sad.

02:29:26.000 Blair, we're out of time, but I want to thank you for joining us.

02:29:30.000 It's been an inspiration to hear you telling the truth.

02:29:32.000 You're awesome.

02:29:33.000 Please keep us posted about the outcome with the Department of Justice.

02:29:37.000 Will do.

02:29:37.000 I really appreciate you having me.

02:29:39.000 All right.

02:29:39.000 Great to have you on.

02:29:40.000 That was Blair Hamrick, everybody.

02:29:42.000 And I'll talk to you after the show, Blair.

02:29:43.000 Just touch base with you.

02:29:44.000 A great guy, just willing to tell the truth.

02:29:47.000 Stay with us.

02:29:47.000 A lot more straight ahead.

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02:33:01.000 From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones.

02:33:06.000 All right, we're back on the Alex Jones Show.

02:33:15.000 Thanks for joining us.

02:33:16.000 Mike Adams, the health ranger, filming in here.

02:33:19.000 And by the way, you know, I heard an ad on GCN during the previous segment.

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02:33:27.000 That was an ad from Ty Bollinger with Carnivora.

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02:33:31.000 You know, a lot of the products actually that get promoted on InfoWars are things that I've done research on previously, sometimes years ago.

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02:33:59.000 So here's what we're going to do for this segment for the rest of the show.

02:34:03.000 I'm going to take a lot of your calls, and at this point, it's a free-for-all.

02:34:06.000 You can talk about the issues from the first hour, the gun confiscation.

02:34:11.000 You can talk about healthcare and medicine, anything you want.

02:34:14.000 You can ask me a question, and then I'm going to intersperse that with some additional breaking news.

02:34:18.000 But just very quickly, LemonadeFreedom.com is something you need to check out.

02:34:22.000 That's coming up August 18th.

02:34:25.000 A protest about, you know, being able to sell lemonade in a lemonade stand without being harassed by local police.

02:34:32.000 I've also got news about BPA, but not what you think.

02:34:36.000 It turns out that all these BPA-free bottles now, many of them are using something worse, BPS.

02:34:44.000 Yeah, it's a different chemical.

02:34:47.000 And by some studies, it is, what, 15 or 19 times more absorbable in the skin than BPA, and it may be just as toxic.

02:34:56.000 It's another hormone mimicking chemical.

02:34:58.000 So now, when BPA got a bad rep, then a lot of these companies said they reformulated with BPS and then started claiming BPA-free on their products or their grocery receipts.

02:35:12.000 And that's another big source, by the way.

02:35:14.000 If you go to the grocery store or anywhere that you get one of those receipts that's kind of slick, that is loaded with toxic BPA or BPS.

02:35:22.000 So if you handle those receipts, wash your hands before eating anything.

02:35:27.000 Do not touch food after touching those receipts.

02:35:30.000 Or, you might, you might, you might become, well, if you're a male, you might get literally, chemically, hormonally feminized.

02:35:40.000 That's, that's what the chemicals do. 0.92

02:35:42.000 You know, say what you want, but that's what the chemicals do.

02:35:46.000 It's cause and effect in basic biochemistry, but now let's go to the first caller that we've got in the queue here.

02:35:52.000 Sky in North Carolina is, now you're on the line with Mike Adams here.

02:35:57.000 Hello Sky, how you doing?

02:35:59.000 Hey Mike, good to talk to you.

02:36:00.000 My question was for Blair, but you probably can answer it.

02:36:03.000 I'm calling to get like an information download on the drug Cymbalta or the drug maker that makes Cymbalta.

02:36:11.000 My grandma just recently fell ill.

02:36:12.000 She's been to three major hospitals.

02:36:14.000 Nobody, no doctor can tell what's wrong with her.

02:36:16.000 They just, they can't figure it out.

02:36:18.000 And I'm looking at her medical records.

02:36:20.000 I'm seeing where they prescribed Cymbalta to her for no real reason and then right then when she started taking that drug she just went into a zombie coma state.

02:36:29.000 I was wondering if you knew anything about that?

02:36:31.000 I'm not going to comment specifically on a brand name drug like that but you can do your own research and that's what I encourage you to do.

02:36:39.000 Search for Cymbalta side effects or Cymbalta clinical trials.

02:36:44.000 You sound like a very well informed intelligent guy.

02:36:46.000 You'll be able to do some research and find out And then, hey, ask for the package insert from the physician, and read the side effects right in the package insert.

02:36:54.000 Most physicians haven't even read that insert, so that'll give you a wealth of information.

02:36:58.000 You might be able to find that that insert states the side effect that your, was it your mother experiencing, or your grandmother?

02:37:06.000 Talking about on the show, we can't really trust those inserts, or we can't trust what I can look up and find, because the studies and tests were all BS, basically.

02:37:17.000 But the inserts will list the side effects.

02:37:18.000 They are required to list the side effects that normally aren't talked about in the advertising.

02:37:22.000 So go ahead and do that job, and I think you're correct to be skeptical.

02:37:26.000 Let me just, I'll leave it at that.

02:37:28.000 I wouldn't take that drug myself, and if I had a family member that was on that drug, or basically almost any pharmaceutical, I would encourage them to find safer alternatives to get off of those drugs.

02:37:38.000 Let's go to another caller, and thank you for your call, Skye, but let's go to Sheldon in Wisconsin.

02:37:43.000 Sheldon, you're on the air on the Alex Jones Show.

02:37:45.000 Go ahead, please.

02:37:47.000 Hi, I have a question for you.

02:37:49.000 I work in an inner city clinic, and I noticed that a lot of our kids are over-vaccinated, their mammograms are off the chain and everything like that.

02:38:00.000 But here's my question.

02:38:02.000 I was telling a bunch of my friends about apricot seeds.

02:38:06.000 How I would eat, I would crack open the core of the apricot and eat the seeds out of it.

02:38:09.000 Yep.

02:38:11.000 And a friend of mine was telling me about a physician who overdosed off the cyanide poisoning of apricot seeds.

02:38:19.000 Is there anything to that, or... I don't know.

02:38:24.000 You know, it sounds like a scare tactic.

02:38:27.000 I've eaten lots of apricot seeds in the past, and they do contain what's sometimes called vitamin B-17, or laetrile.

02:38:34.000 In fact, our earlier guest, Ed Griffin, has an entire book on that.

02:38:37.000 I think it's called The War on Cancer, or...

02:38:42.000 I forgot the exact title of it, but you can check that information out by Ed Griffin.

02:38:46.000 It is basically a natural chemotherapy agent.

02:38:50.000 Now, has somebody ever been harmed by it?

02:38:53.000 I don't know, but they try to tell these scare stories about colloidal silver.

02:38:58.000 They try to scare people away from colloidal silver with these these myths that that, you know, it'll do weird things, too.

02:39:03.000 That's complete disinfo.

02:39:05.000 The real threat is the pharmaceuticals and the vaccines.

02:39:08.000 And you get things from nature.

02:39:10.000 They tend to be orders of magnitude safer and more effective.

02:39:13.000 So I've eaten many of those apricot seeds myself.

02:39:16.000 Hey, I'm still here.

02:39:18.000 I have no cancer.

02:39:19.000 I have no health insurance and I don't have a doctor.

02:39:22.000 Not looking to get one anytime soon either.

02:39:24.000 I'd rather eat something out of nature than out of a pharmaceutical lab.

02:39:27.000 So that's a good question from you.

02:39:28.000 Thanks for bringing that up.

02:39:29.000 Craig, in Oklahoma, you are on the air.

02:39:32.000 Craig, go ahead please.

02:39:34.000 Mike, howdy from above the Red River from you.

02:39:39.000 Wanted to comment on, I'm a recently disabled peer support specialist.

02:39:49.000 I'm no longer employed there and I'm so glad to get a hold of you because with Big Pharma coming under the microscope like they are, I'm kind of tying in something as far as a conspiracy.

02:40:06.000 Mike, in 1963, the State Memorial Hospital in Oklahoma had over 2,000 beds.

02:40:13.000 Today, there are only a little over 100 beds at the state mental hospital.

02:40:20.000 Now, let me tell you something that's wrong with this picture.

02:40:24.000 The state's number one expenditure compared to any and all expenditures combined in the state of Oklahoma for psychotropic medications is the Oklahoma County Jail.

02:40:39.000 And I've written Senator Coburn, I've written Senator Sparks, Coburn's a U.S.

02:40:47.000 Senator Sparks, and I always get this really good feedback from them, but nobody seems to want to, you know, to get this information published.

02:40:57.000 Wait, what's the thrust of it?

02:40:58.000 You're saying that the top two expenditures are jails and mind-altering drugs?

02:41:03.000 Is that the thrust of your call?

02:41:05.000 No, pharma.

02:41:06.000 Pharma, psychotropic medications.

02:41:08.000 Yeah, yeah, pharma.

02:41:10.000 The state, the state of Oklahoma's number one expenditure for psychotropic medications.

02:41:18.000 It's not the mental health service combined or anything.

02:41:21.000 The number one expenditures is the drugs.

02:41:25.000 Oklahoma and Tulsa County Jails.

02:41:27.000 No, well, okay, you know, I think you're right on, but the point is, These states are going broke under the corrupt, the collapsing society that they're building, which is going to be prison run.

02:41:44.000 Everybody's going to be thrown in prison if you don't go along with the system.

02:41:48.000 You've got to be on your psychotropic drugs.

02:41:50.000 You're going to be considered mentally unhealthy.

02:41:53.000 Or mentally impaired if you oppose authority. 0.78

02:41:56.000 That's another thing.

02:41:57.000 In fact, the DSM, for the psychiatry industry, has a disorder called Oppositional Defiance Disorder, or ODD.

02:42:06.000 That means if you are against authority in any way, for example, if the government says, You gotta start recycling your plastic bottles, and you say, no I don't, then you get diagnosed with an oppositional defiance disorder, put on psychiatric drugs, and perhaps thrown in one of these jails.

02:42:24.000 Thank you for your call, by the way.

02:42:26.000 It's a good point on what the priorities are in society now and why we've got to change that and get back to liberty, to freedom, to health, to raising healthy children and keeping them informed.

02:42:35.000 I'm going to go to another call in just a second, but first let me read you a news story.

02:42:39.000 The FDA has been caught spying on emails of its own scientists in a huge surveillance operation.

02:42:46.000 That's up now on the web.

02:42:48.000 Infowars.com, naturalnews.com is carrying that story.

02:42:53.000 Also, check this out.

02:42:55.000 The USDA has published a graph that is the adoption of genetically engineered crops in the US.

02:43:01.000 Let me give you some light here in the studio in case you want to get a shot of that.

02:43:05.000 It shows that these three main crops, soybeans, cotton, and corn, are headed toward 100% adoption across the planted acres in the U.S.

02:43:17.000 In other words, it means that the GMO imperialism that is taking place in America has achieved almost 100% adoption in many of these areas.

02:43:28.000 It's 70% to 80% on some.

02:43:30.000 Some are herbicide-tolerant crops.

02:43:32.000 Others are insect-resistant crops.

02:43:34.000 They're all genetically modified now We're showing the graph on screen for you right there This is right out of the USDA and you see all these all these lines going straight up into the hundred percent or approaching 100% range that means very soon if we don't stop this thing guys and gals everybody listening if we don't stop this genetic pollution and this this agricultural intellectual imperialism this this Destructive genetic approach to agriculture.

02:44:04.000 We're going to end up with a hundred percent of the soybeans, corns, corn and cotton all being genetically modified.

02:44:10.000 Let's go to another caller.

02:44:12.000 Allie in Illinois.

02:44:13.000 You're on the air.

02:44:14.000 Go ahead, Allie.

02:44:16.000 Hi, Mike.

02:44:16.000 It's so nice to talk to you.

02:44:18.000 I listen to the show every day and I've never called in before, but when I heard Blair's story, I had to call in because I used to work for a company that managed that speaker bureau program.

02:44:29.000 Really?

02:44:29.000 Tell us more.

02:44:30.000 Yes.

02:44:31.000 Well, they paid out, we paid out those honorariums, quote unquote, to speakers to go around and tell other doctors to prescribe.

02:44:40.000 And get this, the company's name that I worked for was called Scientific Voice.

02:44:45.000 That's some Orwellian speak right there.

02:44:48.000 But we would pay them up to $3,200 for an hour's worth of work, and these doctors got to think that they were rock stars.

02:44:58.000 They would go around thinking that they were so cool, and I mean, making a living off of talking to other doctors.

02:45:04.000 And honestly, the only thing bigger than their heads was their wallets.

02:45:08.000 They were so egotistical and so rich from it.

02:45:11.000 It was insane.

02:45:12.000 Well, this is awesome that you called, Allie.

02:45:14.000 Let me ask you some more questions then.

02:45:15.000 So your company was the in-between, like a pharma company would hire your company to sign up a lot of doctors to be speakers and would manage that relationship?

02:45:26.000 Exactly, and we would try to manage all of the little regulations in between.

02:45:31.000 What Blair was saying earlier also about the slide presentations that the doctors would use, absolutely those were written by the marketing people.

02:45:39.000 My direct clients were the marketing people at Sanofi Aventis, AstraZeneca, Wyeth.

02:45:46.000 Absolutely.

02:45:47.000 The doctors were paid to prescribe.

02:45:49.000 Wow.

02:45:51.000 What was the behavior of the doctors?

02:45:52.000 Were they willing to sell out to get this money?

02:45:55.000 What was their attitude about all this?

02:45:58.000 Are you kidding me?

02:45:59.000 They loved it!

02:46:00.000 They would, like, tack on these speeches into a vacation!

02:46:06.000 They would go off, they would have dinner, lunch, breakfast with other doctors, and then get the hotel paid for them, get their airfare paid, and they would take a couple of days also extra and just go on vacation!

02:46:18.000 And these are the people responsible for your health, many people believe.

02:46:22.000 Remember that, folks.

02:46:23.000 When you go see your doctor, you're probably dealing with a criminal who accepted bribes.

02:46:27.000 That's what these are.

02:46:28.000 These are bribes.

02:46:28.000 These are kickbacks.

02:46:29.000 But they were never talked about that way, right, Ali?

02:46:31.000 They were just sort of honorariums, that kind of language.

02:46:35.000 Absolutely, and it's so funny because I'm sure all of the listeners right now are shocked by this.

02:46:40.000 This was every day obvious for us.

02:46:43.000 I knew it was wrong in my heart and my soul.

02:46:44.000 I knew that this was wrong, which is why I had to get out of it, but it was so blatantly obvious what was going on, but everybody just like, she kept walking toward the edge of the cliff, just kept doing it, just didn't care.

02:46:57.000 I mean, the doctors wanted the money.

02:46:59.000 The reps were getting money.

02:47:01.000 They were, the more that prescriptions that they got, the better their sales were, the better their region did, the more kickbacks they got.

02:47:09.000 Everybody was complicit.

02:47:11.000 It was not a big secret.

02:47:13.000 Everybody knew what they were doing. - So Ali, we're not going to break you up, but when we do, could you stay on the line We want to get your number and talk to you off the air.

02:47:23.000 You know, you don't have to share your name or make it public or anything, but I'd like to talk to you more.

02:47:27.000 It sounds like you know some other inside details that the public needs to know about this.

02:47:31.000 Would you be willing to give our producers your phone number?

02:47:34.000 Sure, I'd love to talk to you guys.

02:47:35.000 Thank you.

02:47:36.000 Okay, okay, great.

02:47:37.000 Just don't give it live on the air.

02:47:38.000 You'll get a million calls.

02:47:40.000 But, so let me ask you some other questions.

02:47:42.000 So how many doctors overall did your company deal with in your estimation?

02:47:47.000 I mean, per, it was doctors for each and every single drug.

02:47:51.000 So it was the, you know, for instance, Sanofi Aventis had their overall list of quote-unquote speakers, and then each individual drug had their speakers.

02:48:01.000 It had to be thousands.

02:48:03.000 How?

02:48:04.000 And what was the highest amount that you saw paid to doctors for these speaking gigs?

02:48:12.000 3200 was the highest I ever saw.

02:48:15.000 Well it was for, usually that was for a day's work, but I mean they could very easily, there were some times where they would make up to maybe $1500, $1800 for an hour for a visit, a lunch, breakfast or dinner, but they could go do a breakfast and then a lunch and then a dinner, stack it up and all of a sudden they're racking up five or Yeah, that's what Blair was telling us, exactly that.

02:48:38.000 They would do a breakfast speech, a lunch speech, a dinner speech, and of course all the meals are paid for by the drug company, the travel was paid for, the hotel was paid for, even other things, you know, like tickets to concerts and baseball games and Disneyland and places like that were paid for by the drug companies, and then the doctor would walk home from this vacation with an extra, you know, 12 grand in their pocket for two days of giving speeches while they eat.

02:49:02.000 Absolutely, and there were so many little things that they could get reimbursed for.

02:49:06.000 Dry cleaning, meals at the airport, just anything that was incidental toward the trip they got picked up to.

02:49:14.000 So what was your position then?

02:49:16.000 Were you recruiting doctors or what exactly did you do?

02:49:21.000 Yes, I would recruit the doctors based on the pharmaceutical reps' suggestions.

02:49:27.000 So they might find a doctor who they thought was in on the deal, so they'd submit their paperwork to get this doctor signed up to be on the Speakers Bureau, and then I would just physically coordinate the meetings and cut the check.

02:49:39.000 So I would set up to To get the speaker's airfare, hotel, um, and get him the slide presentation, everything he needed to do to go to this meeting.

02:49:49.000 I would set up the on-site meeting, um, you know, all of the little details.

02:49:53.000 I mean, it might be a meeting that had 50, 60 people.

02:49:56.000 It might be one doctor, like Blair was saying.

02:49:59.000 There were times where the doctor would get paid two grand to go talk to one guy.

02:50:05.000 Wow, that's funny because I volunteer here to talk to two million people.

02:50:10.000 I do it because I believe in liberty, but these doctors are just pocketing money to tell lies about pharma.

02:50:15.000 It's all propaganda education.

02:50:17.000 Amazing.

02:50:17.000 Absolutely.

02:50:20.000 Unbelievable.

02:50:20.000 I'm really glad you called.

02:50:21.000 So, you said in your heart you felt you knew this was wrong.

02:50:27.000 Did you eventually leave because of that?

02:50:29.000 Obviously you're not working with that organization anymore.

02:50:31.000 What happened?

02:50:31.000 Yes, it was my first corporate job out of college.

02:50:35.000 So I was maybe 23, 24.

02:50:38.000 I was just happy to be getting a paycheck.

02:50:40.000 And honestly, I didn't know what I was doing at first.

02:50:43.000 Allie, stay with us.

02:50:43.000 We've got to go to break.

02:50:44.000 Sorry to interrupt you.

02:50:45.000 We've got to go to a quick break.

02:50:46.000 But stay with us, if you would, please, Allie.

02:50:48.000 We'll be right back on the other side with a lot more.

02:50:50.000 Stay with us, folks.

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02:54:14.000 All right, continuing here with our caller, Ali, who helped coordinate these kickbacks, these that would have been called bribes to doctors, these so-called speaking fees.

02:54:26.000 You know, here's what's going on here, folks, and you're getting this here first on InfoWars.com, the Alex Jones Show.

02:54:32.000 There is a revolution taking place in medicine.

02:54:35.000 The exposing of the pharma crimes, the mafia, the corruption, it's all coming out.

02:54:41.000 The whole thing is a facade of just disinformation, falsified clinical trials, doctors getting kickbacks, FDA bureaucrats getting paid off, CDC officials getting lucrative multi-million dollar jobs with the vaccine manufacturers.

02:54:55.000 It is a giant orgy of corruption that's called medicine. 0.85

02:54:59.000 And if you take that medicine out there, folks, if you take these drugs, if you take these vaccines, you are a sucker of these industries who are using your body to make profits for their own rich, filthy rich executives. 1.00

02:55:12.000 You are a sucker if you fall for that. 0.99

02:55:14.000 And the doctors are going to line you up for it, too, because they're making money under the table at the same time. 1.00

02:55:20.000 You trust your doctor? 1.00

02:55:21.000 You're a fool. 1.00

02:55:22.000 Let me tell you, you trust your doctor? 1.00

02:55:24.000 Unless that doctor is into holistic health and alternative complementary medicine and understands nutrition. 1.00

02:55:29.000 If you trust a mainstream drug-taking, drug-pimping doctor, you're a fool. 1.00

02:55:35.000 And yeah, you can quote me on that. 0.99

02:55:36.000 And we're going to continue with Allie right here, who's on the phone.

02:55:38.000 Allie, amazing information that you were bringing to us.

02:55:42.000 It just backs up everything else that we've been talking about here with Blair Hamrick, the Glaxo whistleblower, all the other information that's coming out.

02:55:49.000 What do you think about the big picture, Allie?

02:55:52.000 Well, I think, as you said, don't let them use your body, but more importantly, don't let them use your mind either.

02:55:59.000 As I was saying before we broke, I was just a young kid doing this job and I just needed the money.

02:56:05.000 And as I got deeper and deeper into it, I worked for the company for three to four years.

02:56:10.000 I was unhappy every day.

02:56:10.000 I knew it was wrong.

02:56:12.000 I just felt bad and icky in my soul.

02:56:15.000 So I got out.

02:56:16.000 I started my own business.

02:56:18.000 I'm completely unrelated to pharmaceuticals, but I started following my own passion and my own heart, and that's what the overall message is.

02:56:25.000 Follow your passion, follow your heart, and you can't go wrong.

02:56:29.000 Yeah, I bet you made less money, but your soul felt better for it.

02:56:33.000 Is that accurate?

02:56:35.000 Oh, I'm making a fraction of the amount of money that I made, but I'm happy.

02:56:39.000 I feel like a happy person now.

02:56:41.000 Yeah.

02:56:41.000 I never had that before.

02:56:45.000 What do your family and friends say about all this?

02:56:47.000 Are they aware of what you just shared with us?

02:56:49.000 That all this is going on?

02:56:50.000 Or is it just this big secret that nobody talks about?

02:56:53.000 I think my, you know, I only really have my parents, and they're very skeptical as well.

02:56:58.000 So, to them, it's, yeah, they kind of get it.

02:57:01.000 It's no big surprise.

02:57:02.000 I mean, here in the Midwest, it's the secret that everybody knows, but nobody talks about.

02:57:06.000 Everybody knows.

02:57:08.000 It's the Leonard Cohen song.

02:57:09.000 Everybody knows that ICE are loaded.

02:57:11.000 And it's just time to start talking out about it.

02:57:14.000 It's time to start making life changes about it.

02:57:18.000 Absolutely.

02:57:18.000 It's time to catalyze the whistleblowers.

02:57:21.000 It's time to unleash that truth-telling everywhere.

02:57:24.000 Why, you know, why bury your head in the sand out there, folks?

02:57:27.000 There's no more need for that.

02:57:29.000 If everybody just told the truth, we could eliminate the corruption, eliminate the fraud, eliminate the suffering.

02:57:34.000 Bring back liberty, bring back honesty, honest medicine.

02:57:37.000 Hey, what about free market medicine?

02:57:39.000 You know, so people have a real choice.

02:57:40.000 That's what we need to bring back.

02:57:41.000 Ali, you sound like a very credible whistleblower.

02:57:45.000 I really appreciate you bringing your experience to the show today.

02:57:49.000 We're almost out of time, but any final thoughts before we let you go here today?

02:57:53.000 Just thank you for letting me talk.

02:57:55.000 I love Alex.

02:57:56.000 I love you.

02:57:56.000 I listen to the show every day.

02:57:58.000 I never call in.

02:57:59.000 I'm a little shy, but I finally heard Blair talking today and I thought, if there's any day to call, it's today.

02:58:04.000 So I hope that the information has been helpful to you guys and best of luck, best wishes.

02:58:10.000 God bless you for everything you've done.

02:58:12.000 Thank you, Ali.

02:58:13.000 And you don't sound shy at all.

02:58:14.000 You sound like you should have been in the InfoWars reporter contest video or something, actually.

02:58:19.000 So you're doing a great job.

02:58:20.000 Thanks for calling in.

02:58:21.000 And everybody out there listening, thank you for watching.

02:58:23.000 We're going to continue, by the way, with just five minutes of Overdrive today, just to finish up some of the news we didn't have a chance to get to.

02:58:31.000 But for everybody else, retransmission begins now.

02:58:34.000 And check out InfoWars.com for much more.

02:58:36.000 And Overdrive straight ahead for those online.

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02:59:59.000 All right, continuing here with just a few minutes of overdrive. continuing here with just a few minutes of overdrive.

03:00:18.000 This is Mike Adams filling in today for Alex Jones.

03:00:21.000 I wanted to just take a little bit of time here because there's so many issues we did not have a chance to cover, but wow, what a show!

03:00:29.000 What a show today!

03:00:30.000 I don't know what you think about it, but I thought we had some great guests, some great information that got shared out there with the public.

03:00:36.000 You know, look, things are changing.

03:00:38.000 The transformation is upon us.

03:00:40.000 The global police state is getting desperate to try to shut down free speech precisely because this kind of information is coming out.

03:00:48.000 The truth about the drug industry is coming out.

03:00:51.000 It's complete fraud.

03:00:52.000 It is just a system of kickbacks and payoffs and corruption with everybody on the take.

03:00:58.000 As long as they make their money, they're willing to sacrifice the health of some child who's going to go into a seizure and be paralyzed or dead from a vaccine.

03:01:05.000 They don't care.

03:01:07.000 As long as they make their money and they can buy their Mercedes and they can get their fancy house, they don't care what happens to you and your children, alright?

03:01:15.000 That's what we're dealing with here.

03:01:17.000 It is an evil, kind of destructive, almost an infestation of the human spirit that has happened with these people.

03:01:24.000 They've been taken over by, I mean, almost literally demonic forces of some kind.

03:01:29.000 It's that bad.

03:01:30.000 I mean, who on earth Would sacrifice the health of children or senior citizens just so they can make an extra buck selling another few billion dollars worth of pharmaceuticals and vaccines?

03:01:42.000 Who would do that?

03:01:43.000 I hope you wouldn't do that.

03:01:45.000 I would never do that.

03:01:46.000 I think most listeners to the Alex Jones Show would not do that.

03:01:50.000 Because you have ethics.

03:01:51.000 Because you have a heart.

03:01:53.000 Because you know there is eternal judgment on your actions in this life, right?

03:01:58.000 You know there's going to be a record.

03:02:00.000 A record is kept of everything you do, and you will be held to account for it.

03:02:05.000 Let's get to some other stories here.

03:02:07.000 This is by Kurt Nimmo up on InfoWars.com right now.

03:02:10.000 Iran accuses US of using weather weapons.

03:02:14.000 I wanted to get to this during the show, but this is fascinating.

03:02:18.000 And Iran is right now experiencing its worst drought since 1964.

03:02:22.000 Now here's the other thought on this.

03:02:24.000 If the U.S.

03:02:24.000 has these weather weapons, is it using them against the U.S.

03:02:29.000 heartland right now to destroy the corn supply, the food supply? 0.94

03:02:34.000 It's being crushed by about 60%, maybe 70%.

03:02:37.000 Could be even worse before this is over.

03:02:39.000 So are they being used against the domestic population and the farmers in America today?

03:02:46.000 Maybe so.

03:02:47.000 Maybe that's another show.

03:02:47.000 I don't know.

03:02:49.000 Let me go to this one.

03:02:51.000 A business leader is hit back at Obama after he says the wealthy aren't responsible for their own success.

03:02:57.000 Remember this?

03:02:58.000 Remember this quote from just yesterday or two days ago?

03:03:01.000 Obama said during his speech, if you've got a business, you didn't build that.

03:03:05.000 Somebody else made that happen.

03:03:07.000 I can't tell you how offensive this statement is, how detached from reality it is, how ignorant of basic economic fundamentals this is.

03:03:18.000 To claim that business owners and innovators and the people that put in the hours, the long hours, like I see people putting in hours around here.

03:03:25.000 You know, Alex Jones built this network.

03:03:28.000 I built up Natural News, Alex Jones built up Infowars, all the other innovators out there have built up their businesses.

03:03:35.000 For Obama to come along and say that we didn't do that?

03:03:38.000 That's absurd!

03:03:40.000 It's offensive! 1.00

03:03:42.000 It is ignorant! 0.99

03:03:43.000 It is detached from reality. 0.99

03:03:46.000 I just can't tell you how offensive that is.

03:03:50.000 And even Rush Limbaugh then accused the President of, quote, destroying the American dream.

03:03:55.000 I don't agree with Rush Limbaugh on a lot of things, but on this one, he's right.

03:04:00.000 This is Obama destroying the American dream.

03:04:02.000 What is this?

03:04:03.000 This weird sickness, this psychosis among the communists who think that society gives you everything.

03:04:11.000 That the individual isn't responsible for your own outcome, your own success or failure.

03:04:17.000 That is a communist manifesto type of belief system, and it is un-American. 0.75

03:04:22.000 It is anti-American to say that business leaders aren't responsible for their own success.

03:04:28.000 That is so offensive!

03:04:30.000 It's the small business owners that generate, that create the jobs for 90% of Americans.

03:04:36.000 That's a fact you can't argue with, even if you're the president.

03:04:40.000 In any case, I enjoyed sharing this info with you today.

03:04:42.000 Thanks for your support.

03:04:45.000 Thanks for allowing me to come on and just basically be part of the InfoWar.

03:04:49.000 This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, sharing my thoughts with you today.

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