Alex Jones Show - 20121018_Thu-5_Alex

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00:00:29.000 So they own the public spaces that are here, the festival?

00:00:57.000 Are you going to turn off the camera?

00:01:01.000 Nope.

00:01:01.000 Okay.

00:01:02.000 I'll go get a police officer.

00:01:03.000 Be right back.

00:01:03.000 Are you filming that?

00:01:05.000 No.

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00:03:53.000 Alright folks, we are live.

00:04:18.000 We just had George Norrie, the second biggest talk show host in the world, 20 million listeners a week, on with us for two hours.

00:04:25.000 Very gracious to join us.

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00:06:34.000 But domestically, these news sharing systems, one of them, what's the name of it, John, that we've been researching and using?

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00:06:46.000 We're talking about quite a bit of money every month, but I've actually had stations ask for five-minute vignettes, news specials, the show.

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00:07:53.000 James Wesley Rawls is with us for the next 45 minutes.

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00:08:05.000 James Wesley Rawls.

00:08:06.000 We should have him back more often.

00:08:07.000 People just love this guy.

00:08:10.000 We're going to get into so many of the points that he's really concerned about.

00:08:14.000 He's been an enthusiastic survivalist since his teenage years.

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00:08:23.000 My wife bought it and I read it two nights ago.

00:08:25.000 It's in our preparedness area in the basement.

00:08:28.000 He has a bachelor's art degree from San Jose University and a minor degree in military science, history, and military.

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00:08:52.000 He achieved a rank of Captain, attended the Army NBC Defense Officer School with the North A Northern Warfare School at Fort Greeley, alaskasurvivalblog.com.

00:09:02.000 He joins us now here, just since he was on three or four months ago.

00:09:07.000 It's all happening!

00:09:08.000 The 1.6 billion bullets, the preparations for martial law, the military checkpoints, not drills on the highways, aircraft carriers massing in the Gulf.

00:09:20.000 All of it.

00:09:21.000 It is bonkers.

00:09:22.000 We've got a bunch of points he wants to go all over.

00:09:24.000 Prepare to be pulled off the plane.

00:09:26.000 There has attempts to put flags on his site.

00:09:29.000 Attempts to crash his website.

00:09:31.000 Ping attacks.

00:09:32.000 Yeah, it's all crazy.

00:09:33.000 Political attack on his writings on Wikipedia.

00:09:35.000 Delete articles about his books.

00:09:38.000 Just so many points we're going to make, but Mr. Rawls, James Wesley Rawls, one of the most highly respected survivalist prepper researchers out there.

00:09:46.000 Where are we in America, but worldwide, right now on the grand chess board?

00:09:53.000 Well, Alex, I think we are on the slippery slope is where we are.

00:09:57.000 There's obviously huge economic problems that are right on the horizon, and people need to be prepared for those.

00:10:08.000 But there's also the whole political milieu, and it's obvious that if anyone is in the Liberty Movement, or the Constitutionalist Movement, or the Prepper Movement, or the Oathkeeper Movement, anyone who has a high profile in any of those movements can expect to be targeted.

00:10:32.000 Anybody who isn't an anti-American piece of filth, anyone who is a real American, basic red-blooded good person, we're the bad guys.

00:10:42.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:10:43.000 It's really funny.

00:10:44.000 The people that used to be held up and put on a pedestal are now considered enemies of the state.

00:10:57.000 Anyone who has traditional American values, anyone who's an outspoken Christian, Anyone who is opposed to NDAA, anyone who is critical of the government's handling of money, and anyone who's critical of our U.S.

00:11:19.000 US Treasury being so deeply involved with the private banking cartel called the Federal Reserve, anyone who points any of that out is going to get targeted.

00:11:30.000 I think you're alluding to the confirmed...

00:11:34.000 Be ready for it.

00:11:35.000 Absolutely.

00:11:36.000 I think you're alluding to the prep or put on a no-fly list, can't get back to the U.S.

00:11:40.000 from the state of Hawaii.

00:11:42.000 There will be selective enforcement just like that.

00:11:45.000 All right, well, I mean, continue along those lines.

00:11:47.000 You yourself, I don't talk a lot about this just because so much of it happens it would get old for the audience, but the amount of harassment we've come under in the last month is epic, which again, added to everything else, I can just feel the energy level rising towards a crescendo.

00:12:05.000 Well, yes.

00:12:07.000 I think it's obvious that something's coming to a head.

00:12:12.000 And I think that we'll, as time goes on, we'll see more and more hack attacks on websites with denial of service type attacks where they basically try to ping websites off the internet.

00:12:25.000 We'll see tracking of website visitors with things like the cookie attachments they did to my website a few months back.

00:12:34.000 We're able to pretty well document that.

00:12:37.000 And it all got traced back to a big government data center.

00:12:42.000 There's also going to be things like selective enforcement like the guy who just got pulled off the plane in Hawaii this week.

00:12:49.000 We need to be ready for that and we need to be just steadfast.

00:12:56.000 We can't let our movements be muzzled by either by the government or by Organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center are very selectively trying to besmirch people with You know, basically painting people with a broad brush.

00:13:19.000 They're coming after us because they know we know the game plan.

00:13:24.000 And they know everybody's starting to listen to us, James.

00:13:27.000 They know that people are listening to us.

00:13:30.000 I mean, I can't even, if I told people the amount of visitors we get a day now, I can't even believe it myself.

00:13:35.000 Three million a day?

00:13:37.000 Just to Infowars.com now, the last week?

00:13:40.000 I mean, this is scaring the criminals.

00:13:42.000 So people better know, we're on... The powers that be are feeling the heat.

00:13:47.000 And they're in desperation mode right now, and all of these steps that they're taking against the Liberty Movement, and the Prepper Movement, the Oath Keeper Movement, and the Constitutionalist Movement, all of those steps they're taking are signs of their desperation.

00:14:02.000 It shows you how close they are to losing their grip.

00:14:05.000 And they're already losing their grip on the mass media.

00:14:05.000 Yes.

00:14:10.000 The mass media, the mainstream media, Is losing more and more market share with every passing day to the alternative media.

00:14:19.000 To blogs.

00:14:21.000 They're losing it to radio and television shows like yours.

00:14:25.000 They're losing it to podcasts and so forth.

00:14:28.000 More and more people are turning to alternative media.

00:14:31.000 And at this point, they basically cannot stop it unless they completely shut down the mass media and shut down the internet, which just can't happen.

00:14:40.000 Not unless they want to crash the entire system.

00:14:45.000 I agree and again I'm trying to sit here with a sock in my mouth when you're talking because everything you're saying makes me just want to confirm everything you're saying but...

00:14:54.000 I mean, obviously the police and military are starting to really figure out bad guys are in control of the government, and it's a lot deeper than Obama.

00:15:01.000 Geopolitically, I know you're all about getting ourselves ready, and that's the most important thing at the micro level, but if we look at the macro, I mean, where is the world right now?

00:15:11.000 I mean, where is it going?

00:15:13.000 I mean, how much crazier is it going to get?

00:15:14.000 What are some triggers?

00:15:15.000 Well, I think it's going to get a lot crazier, Alex, because the austerity measures that they've implemented in Greece and Spain and Italy are really just the beginning.

00:15:24.000 And if you think we've seen a lot of riots in the streets of Greece and Spain, that's actually just the first stages of what may turn into civil wars in those countries.

00:15:38.000 Because the level of austerity that they're going to have to implement is huge.

00:15:45.000 They're basically going to have to shut down their entire welfare states. 1.00

00:15:50.000 They're going to have to deny pension funds that people have been promised for decades.

00:15:57.000 And they're going to cut off people from the banking world.

00:16:04.000 They're going to cut people off from all the traditional government entitlements that have been in place for many, many years in Europe.

00:16:14.000 And the backlash is going to be huge.

00:16:18.000 The economic crisis that's unfolding in Europe really is just still in its early stages and it is yet to really spill over into the US, Canada, and especially Japan.

00:16:30.000 I think Japan is actually going to be the next major country that's going to implode.

00:16:37.000 They may implode before we do because their debt level is so much higher versus GDP than here in the United States.

00:16:45.000 So I think things are going to get a lot worse in Europe.

00:16:48.000 Certainly, but a lot worse before they get better.

00:16:50.000 And in the short term, I think there actually may be, because of all of the capital outflows coming out of Europe, a short-term boost to American stock market, simply because investors are completely scared to death of European investments.

00:17:08.000 But eventually, the gig will be up here as well, and things will implode.

00:17:17.000 Continue, continue.

00:17:18.000 I'm fighting it on interrupt.

00:17:19.000 Please continue.

00:17:21.000 Okay.

00:17:22.000 Well, as things fall apart in Europe, we'll see a massive clampdown by the powers that be.

00:17:31.000 They'll want to try to muzzle the media in Europe.

00:17:36.000 There will no longer be a lot of coverage of street protests.

00:17:43.000 If anything, the news that starts coming out of Europe in the new year, I think, is going to become pavlum.

00:17:53.000 We're going to see lots of programming coming out of Europe on cultural events and, you know, People in lederhosen drinking beer and singing.

00:18:07.000 We're going to see like bizarre Trulia Orwellian cover stories.

00:18:12.000 The announcements of new car models coming out of BMW and Audi, okay?

00:18:18.000 That's the kind of news that they're going to shove down our throats from Europe.

00:18:22.000 Because they won't want to focus on all the street protests that are going on because they can't Let the cat out of the bag that the majority of the citizenry in Greece is fed up and they refuse to take it.

00:18:41.000 They won't be focusing on things like the people in Iceland and Ireland backing out of the EU.

00:18:49.000 Yeah, they won't be focusing on alternative markets that are springing up, where people are setting up barter networks, for example, because there's no cash available in Greece and Spain and Italy and Portugal.

00:19:03.000 I think we're going to see a veritable news blackout in Europe starting early next year.

00:19:09.000 And it's going to be up to the alternative media.

00:19:13.000 It's going to be up to individual citizens with, you know, small Uh, webcams and cell phone cameras that get on the internet to spread the word about what's actually going on in Europe.

00:19:28.000 The truth will get out, but it's not going to come from the mass media.

00:19:31.000 It's going to come from the alternative media.

00:19:36.000 Expanding on that, last time we had you on you broke down your geopolitical view and you pointed out the elite is not in total control.

00:19:44.000 So many of our sources that have really been proven accurate in the past say for the first time in really modern history there's a split within the elites because it's getting down to endgame time and there's a lot of backstabbing going on and that things are not going well.

00:19:57.000 I think you alluded to the fact that the establishment Uh, is not happy campers right now.

00:20:03.000 Uh, where would you say the posture of the, uh, of the engineers, the social engineers is right now?

00:20:11.000 I mean, are things going well?

00:20:12.000 Because I see articles where they brag, yeah, world government's here.

00:20:15.000 We've set everything up.

00:20:17.000 Meanwhile, the ADL and Southern Broadway Law Center say it don't exist.

00:20:21.000 Uh, you know, Al Qaeda is being used to attack Syria, but we've got to give our rights up because Al Qaeda You know, is hiding under every table. 0.85

00:20:28.000 I mean, things are just becoming cartoon level insane to where I can't even believe it's gotten to this point.

00:20:33.000 I'm pretty darn jaded.

00:20:36.000 Well, Alex, there's definitely two different camps that exist within the European powers that be.

00:20:44.000 One camp is trying to tear the system apart.

00:20:48.000 As best they can, so that they'll have an excuse to implement things like biochipping, or things like a global currency to replace the Euro.

00:20:59.000 The other camp basically has seen that they've gone too far, and they're worried about revolution, or counter-revolution, going on in Europe, and they're scared for their own lives.

00:21:11.000 They're afraid that they're going to be swinging from lampposts.

00:21:14.000 So they're trying to slow the other camp down.

00:21:18.000 They're trying to stabilize the situation.

00:21:20.000 They don't want to see any sort of collapse that would endanger their lives or their property.

00:21:27.000 So it's difficult to predict how things are going to play out because there's definitely two camps with two different approaches that are working simultaneously.

00:21:38.000 I don't know who's going to win out.

00:21:40.000 All I can say is that on a At a personal level, for anyone in Europe, and then eventually here in the States, families had better be prepared to hunker down for an extended period of time with commerce completely disrupted.

00:21:56.000 There won't be food on the supermarket shelves for weeks or months.

00:22:02.000 There won't be jobs.

00:22:03.000 People aren't going to have, there's going to be massive layoffs.

00:22:07.000 There's going to be attempts to evict people from Thousands or tens of thousands of homes daily So people need to have a cash reserve.

00:22:22.000 They need to have a food reserve.

00:22:25.000 They need to have a Good source of water and and home water filtration Because they may the Pacific water supplies may be disrupted and the power grids make in a worst case the power grids may go down Hell, the power grids may go down.

00:22:42.000 The globalists are already shutting down many of our coal power plants.

00:22:46.000 I live in Austin, James, and in five years my power prices have doubled and they're on the news saying I'm in a model UN city and they're going to shut down the final city power plant so we can buy from General Electric plants at even higher prices.

00:23:01.000 I mean, like you said, they're doing everything they can to shut this country down.

00:23:07.000 Well, Alex, there's definitely a change in the wind, and I recommend that all your listeners take full advantage of all the educational resources that you have through InfoWars.com.

00:23:20.000 I recommend that they get in touch with some of your advertisers for things like food storage, for things like water filtration, and for alternative investments that'll put them outside of the dollar paradigm Listen to this.

00:23:39.000 I talked to a well driller, because I already have a well on my property, but it's only 500 feet deep.

00:23:44.000 I want to go 1,000 into the aquifer.

00:23:46.000 And he said, you know, the crazy thing is I used to hear your show and I thought you were full of it.

00:23:50.000 He goes, you know, all the rich people around here are drilling wells and putting in bunkers and food.

00:23:55.000 I mean, what do you think's going on if the wealthier people are drilling wells and getting food?

00:24:01.000 What do they know is coming, James?

00:24:03.000 Well, if my current crop of consulting clients is any indication, a lot of people on Wall Street, a lot of people in the banking world, and hedge fund managers in particular, are definitely concerned because they're stocking up.

00:24:22.000 They're hiring me to help them pick out survival retreats.

00:24:27.000 They're stocking them for multiple years.

00:24:30.000 The folks that are selling underground shelters are doing a booming business right now.

00:24:36.000 And we're not talking nuclear war here.

00:24:38.000 We're talking about people that want to have an underground shelter because they're worried about their physical safety because of civil unrest.

00:24:47.000 That's how bad it is.

00:24:48.000 Yeah, more of hidden safe houses.

00:24:52.000 Well, yes.

00:24:52.000 There's definitely a lot of people that are looking for retreat-type properties.

00:24:58.000 And it's really odd, Alex, because these are people who traditionally have had no interest whatsoever.

00:25:06.000 These are people who are not, you know, bomb shelter oriented or chemical, biological, or radiological defense oriented at all.

00:25:17.000 No, no, no.

00:25:17.000 On my street, there's... These are simply people who are in the, mainly in the banking sphere.

00:25:26.000 And I don't know whether it's just because they have their ear to the ground in terms of what's going to happen with the global credit collapse, or whether they have had contacts in the corporate world with corporate executives that are warning them that something's coming.

00:25:45.000 But for some reason, suddenly, there's thousands of people, again, the majority of them that have contacted me have been with hedge funds.

00:25:56.000 The number of hedge fund managers that I have had for consulting clients has absolutely blossomed.

00:26:07.000 I have more hedge fund managers currently on my roster of consulting clients than I had combined for the last five years.

00:26:16.000 And that's all happened in just the last six months.

00:26:18.000 Survivalblog.com, and it's making people mad that people are listening to you, best-selling author and researcher, Survivalblog.com.

00:26:27.000 James Wesley Rawls is our guest.

00:26:29.000 Let's talk about this then, because you've got a lot of points here that we need to go over, but we're sitting here watching this.

00:26:36.000 The nightmare is starting to become a reality.

00:26:38.000 It's been confirmed by the day that The worst scenarios aren't just possibilities, but now probabilities.

00:26:46.000 How do you see the chain reaction coming?

00:26:49.000 People like Gerald Cilente, people like Max Keiser, but Dr. Paul Greg Roberts, who's been somewhat restrained, now says, yeah, look for collapse.

00:26:57.000 Joseph Stiklitz, myself, I live this 18 hours a day.

00:27:01.000 I'm seeing all the signs.

00:27:03.000 Just where I live out in the hill countries not the richest area, but there are some wealthy people out there I talked to the realtors I mean they're like yeah bunkers are going in all over the place I go and look and see bunkers I go and find a NSA spy base two miles from where I live I go I'm driving and there's an army maneuver going on I see Intel reports news coming in

00:27:26.000 With Army checkpoints all over, you know, not drilling but really running checkpoints, I mean, it's all going from preparation to a slow kind of rollout now, kind of a soft martial law at levels I've never seen, James.

00:27:44.000 Well, the Texas Hill Country may be an exception, but overall, we're definitely seeing Uh, a ramp up.

00:27:56.000 If you look at what's coming out of the Intelligence Fusion Centers, uh, for example, the BATF just released a report, uh, very detailed about connections between outlaw biker gangs and the, uh, the U.S.

00:28:14.000 military, for example.

00:28:16.000 A PDF of that was just released in the last few days.

00:28:20.000 And It's scary to see how much these intelligence fusion centers depend upon political action groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:28:34.000 It's like one is feeding the other and vice versa.

00:28:39.000 There's definitely a ramp-up that's going on.

00:28:42.000 You're talking about an echo chamber?

00:28:45.000 Yeah, well, yeah.

00:28:47.000 I think that the main threat to people in the prepper movement, the constitutionalist movement, is going to be selective enforcement.

00:28:55.000 I don't think people at this point need to worry about a massive roundup and, you know, the apocryphal... No, they're going to catch us at security checkpoints, trump stuff up on us.

00:29:10.000 Well, yes, and unfortunately the way that Our statutory system is set up here in the States.

00:29:19.000 At any given time, any given American is probably in violation of two or three federal laws.

00:29:24.000 They just don't realize it.

00:29:26.000 There's thousands and thousands of laws on the book that come purely out of statutory jurisdiction.

00:29:33.000 These are not, these are malaprohibitive.

00:29:36.000 They're not mala in se.

00:29:38.000 And I'm sure you know the difference.

00:29:41.000 So if they want to nail somebody, they can nail them.

00:29:46.000 And if they can't find something that someone is engaged in, they will either plant evidence, Or enact some new Dictat coming out of some bureaucracy?

00:29:59.000 Well, look at the new executive orders interrupt, where they say, if we say you're involved with anybody in Africa who might aid somebody we don't like, we're taking everything you got.

00:30:08.000 Or if we say you're connected to somebody connected to Iran, we take everything you've got. 0.71

00:30:12.000 But I mean, what about this?

00:30:14.000 What about people that work for the system, realizing it's all starting to come down because nobody's holding the corruption in check?

00:30:21.000 How about people in government, FBI, you name it, and I know a lot of them actually are doing this, not doing this.

00:30:27.000 You know, good guys blew the whistle about Fast and Furious.

00:30:30.000 What about not taking some veteran to jail for no reason because you get them at a checkpoint?

00:30:36.000 I mean, what about people in the system going, you know what, this is crazy.

00:30:40.000 We're not going to be part of this.

00:30:43.000 I'm confident that more and more of that will go on.

00:30:47.000 More and more people are going to simply say no People who are sworn officers who are under delegation of authority for law enforcement agencies in the military are simply going to say, I'm sorry, I can't do that.

00:31:03.000 This goes beyond our mandate.

00:31:06.000 This goes beyond our constitutional authority.

00:31:09.000 We can't do this.

00:31:11.000 And they're just going to say no to that sort of enforcement.

00:31:15.000 And a few of them are probably going to be very publicly drummed out of All I can say is more power to them, because eventually, even in the worst of police states, you have people that stand up.

00:31:33.000 Even in Nazi Germany, Herman Goering's brother was involved in trying to get Jews out of concentration camps.

00:31:48.000 There are going to be people who will stand up and do the right thing.

00:31:52.000 Well, yeah, because it's so bad to be involved in evil.

00:31:55.000 Once the evil is being committed, you can literally, like, change from some type of, you know, Christmas carol.

00:32:01.000 You know, the chains of eternity are being placed on you.

00:32:04.000 People are going to have their conscience burned.

00:32:07.000 Oh, definitely.

00:32:09.000 And at some point, people are going to have to make a conscious decision.

00:32:15.000 And my daily prayer Is that the majority of people who are sworn officers are going to make the right decision.

00:32:26.000 They're going to stand up for the document.

00:32:29.000 They're not going to stand still and allow unconstitutional laws to be enforced.

00:32:37.000 Well, everything else is empty.

00:32:39.000 Let me ask you this question.

00:32:40.000 The different factions that run the global system, they've kind of gone to the point of no return, in my view.

00:32:45.000 They've committed this engine of takeover that's so dangerous that if they try to stop it, it would chew them up.

00:32:51.000 So now they're all in.

00:32:52.000 That's a very dangerous enemy to face.

00:32:54.000 Do you agree they've committed this, or is there any way to stop it?

00:32:58.000 And what is their endgame, then, if they're successful?

00:33:01.000 Wow, boy, that's a whole bucket of worms, Alex, but I'm not sure if it's gotten to the point where they can't stop it or at least slow it down.

00:33:13.000 Because they could certainly attempt to set things right.

00:33:20.000 Now, once they've created the climate for A global credit collapse and global hyperinflation, which they have through quantitative easing, and there's monetization going on on both sides of the Atlantic right now, that they may not be able to stop.

00:33:39.000 Likewise, the number of derivatives contracts that's built up and the counterparty risk that's developed may be very difficult to stop.

00:33:49.000 So there are aspects of it that they can't really stop.

00:33:54.000 But they certainly could step in.

00:33:59.000 And the problem is, is that they've made a lot of promises to very high level people in the banking world, who basically are the ones that put them in office.

00:34:12.000 And if they try to undo things that are in the best interest of the banking world, A lot of these politicians may find themselves on the evening news with some huge scandal that is unleashed upon them.

00:34:34.000 Well, I was about to say, I agree with your analysis.

00:34:36.000 They're holding blackmail on so many politicians on both sides of the Atlantic.

00:34:43.000 It may be difficult for some politicians to do the right thing.

00:34:46.000 Well, that's what I was about to get to.

00:34:47.000 I totally agree with your analysis.

00:34:49.000 It's stunningly piercing here with James Wesley Rawls of SurvivalBlog.com.

00:34:55.000 The global bankers, six megabanks or less, they are just so arrogant and they've never failed.

00:35:01.000 But that's what Hitler did, that's what Napoleon did. 0.96

00:35:04.000 They all just think, I'm winning, I'm winning, I'm winning, I'm winning.

00:35:07.000 They don't get the fact that they're destroying their own system while they're at it.

00:35:12.000 They become disconnected.

00:35:13.000 And the whole posture they've got is they intend to collapse things and then pose as savers throughout that process.

00:35:21.000 And I don't see them pulling out.

00:35:23.000 I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I see them going all the way.

00:35:26.000 Sure, there's some elements that want stability, but that's more mid-level.

00:35:30.000 And even elite systems are overruled by whoever is the craziest and most arrogant and willful and has the most blackmail in the room becomes the leader.

00:35:41.000 And so it's a crystallization of evil.

00:35:44.000 We've now reached that Roman collapse point where it's the craziest guy rules the day. 1.00

00:35:53.000 Yeah, we don't know who our modern-day Caligula will be, but he's probably there.

00:35:59.000 He's probably going to step up and be the new leader of the European Union or the new global governance or whatever.

00:36:07.000 And he'll be the guy to announce the imposition of wage and price controls, the imposition of currency uh... transfer controls the and the imposition of a new global currency and will probably be a completely digital currency that may not even be in physical printed form.

00:36:28.000 It may be strictly on a card. 0.97

00:36:32.000 And your bank account's worth nothing and if you don't like it, you're a terrorist, they'll send a paramilitary group by to kill you and your family. 0.96

00:36:40.000 I guess it could come to that, but All I can say, Alex, is that your listeners need to take this very seriously. 0.98

00:36:51.000 Make some concerted prayer first, and then prepare.

00:36:56.000 Team up.

00:36:57.000 People need to get smart.

00:36:59.000 They need to get educated on what the risks are and the countermeasures that they need to take to mitigate those risks.

00:37:11.000 They need to team up with their neighbors and friends and co-workers and fellow church congregants.

00:37:17.000 They need to train.

00:37:18.000 And people need to get tough physically.

00:37:22.000 People need to get in better physical condition because we're in for some very tough times ahead.

00:37:26.000 They need to wean themselves of their addictions.

00:37:30.000 Get away from cigarettes.

00:37:33.000 Get away from, you know, all the unhealthy foods they've been eating.

00:37:39.000 Wean themselves from antidepressants.

00:37:41.000 and become as self-sufficient as possible because the big machine, the big trolley may be coming off the tracks, and people need to be prepared.

00:37:53.000 That's what my blog's all about. - Absolutely.

00:37:55.000 You know, I hate to obsess on the police and military, but they're where the rubber meets the road.

00:38:01.000 We already see Detroit police, as you know, a week and a half ago, putting up signs saying, don't come in the city, we can't protect you.

00:38:08.000 Years ago, different cities saying, we're laying off half the cops or more, we won't respond to all these crimes.

00:38:14.000 Places like Oakland.

00:38:15.000 And we're going to see more and more of that.

00:38:18.000 What will it be like for the general population under that versus for people that are out there in this crime-ridden system?

00:38:27.000 They admit crimes going up trying to, you know, be a cop and all that.

00:38:32.000 I want to get into that and then I want to ask the question about your view of Obama versus Romney.

00:38:37.000 Is there any difference?

00:38:39.000 I don't think there's a nickels worth of difference there, but to step back down to your previous question, I think what we can look forward to in the United States and Canada is essentially two very distinct environments.

00:38:53.000 You're going to have the urban cores, which will be held by the powers that be, and then you're going to have the suburbs and the rural areas, which are going to be out of their grasp.

00:39:10.000 And it'll be, no matter where you are, there'll be a lot of crime, there'll be a lot of physical risk.

00:39:20.000 But in the countryside, I think we're essentially going to see alternative systems set up with barter networks and with, you know, community sustainable agriculture and all this other stuff, that's all going to come together.

00:39:36.000 Almost a renaissance.

00:39:37.000 People are going to want to be able to check out of the system.

00:39:40.000 They're not going to want the one world global governance system.

00:39:44.000 They're going to basically step aside and say, sorry, we don't want that here.

00:39:49.000 And when you come right down to it, the opportunities to implement martial law will be limited to just a few cities.

00:39:59.000 There just aren't enough troops to implement it nationwide.

00:40:01.000 That's right.

00:40:03.000 So, the trick is, don't be in one of those cities.

00:40:08.000 What is that?

00:40:09.000 New York?

00:40:09.000 Chicago?

00:40:10.000 L.A.?

00:40:11.000 Go with their feet and strategically relocate.

00:40:14.000 And you've had people like Joel Skousen on, who wrote a wonderful book called Strategic Relocation.

00:40:20.000 He was years ahead of me.

00:40:23.000 He was one of my formative influences.

00:40:25.000 He's prepared this game much longer than I have.

00:40:30.000 People need to strategically relocate.

00:40:32.000 They need to be moving to places like the Texas Hill Country or the American Redoubt in my region here, which consists of eastern Oregon, eastern Washington, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming. 0.78

00:40:45.000 That's the main region that I'm recommending.

00:40:47.000 Yeah, Scousin, I think he agrees with you that that's the best area.

00:40:52.000 Well, yeah, he lives in the Inland Northwest as well.

00:40:55.000 Although, since he's a Mormon, you know, he includes Utah in the states that he recommends.

00:41:01.000 I actually don't, only because Utah is so arid and relatively overpopulated.

00:41:08.000 It has a higher population density than Yeah, he thinks it's good because the average people have storable food and stuff and are self-sufficient.

00:41:18.000 Well, yeah, it's definitely a cut above.

00:41:21.000 What is the biggest death trap?

00:41:25.000 New York City?

00:41:28.000 Yes, definitely.

00:41:29.000 Specifically Long Island I think will be the statistical chances of making it out of there alive are going to be in the single digits because when everything falls apart There will be no transit out of New York City.

00:41:47.000 There's only a few bridges and tunnels that connect Long Island.

00:41:53.000 And it doesn't take a lot to shut those down.

00:41:55.000 And whether it's a terrorist incident or whether it's martial law or whatever, there's going to be a lot of people trapped.

00:42:01.000 Well, look at Katrina! 0.99

00:42:02.000 I mean, imagine New York City and Long Island during any type of crisis.

00:42:08.000 It's a death trap.

00:42:10.000 It really is.

00:42:11.000 And there's a few others like it.

00:42:13.000 Actually, Seattle is also very geographically isolated, for example.

00:42:17.000 And there's a number of other cities where basically the number of thoroughfarers out are geographically determined.

00:42:28.000 And I've always been from the geographical determinist school of history, much less modern geography.

00:42:35.000 You don't want to be.

00:42:37.000 In a major urban area, when things fall apart.

00:42:41.000 Because from an actuarial standpoint, your chances are going to be slim to none.

00:42:47.000 The big cities are going to be public health nightmares.

00:42:52.000 The gangs will take over.

00:42:53.000 The few police and firemen that are there are primarily going to be at home taking care of their own families.

00:43:00.000 They'll be terrified, really.

00:43:06.000 Uh, so fixated on protecting their own families, they're not going to show up to work.

00:43:10.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:43:11.000 Everybody who's so scared about a gun confiscation, they'll do some highly publicized events, like you were saying, to make us all scared and drum out troops and say troops were terrorists because they were with the evil, you know, you know, patriots or wherever.

00:43:23.000 You can see it all being scripted in TV shows and stuff.

00:43:25.000 They always do that in the fantasy realm before they roll it out as the official PR, as kind of a, you know, preparation of the mind.

00:43:32.000 It's so obvious when you're awake.

00:43:34.000 But on average, during any collapse in any country, but especially here, the cops and everybody, they're going to stay at home with their families.

00:43:41.000 So the truth is, the government has planned to let all the gangs run wild, like Argentina or wherever, so we end up begging for the troops.

00:43:50.000 It won't be, hey, Army, don't come in here.

00:43:52.000 It'll be, Army, get in here, fix things.

00:43:55.000 And that's essentially what happened with Hurricane Katrina, because so many cops either had fled themselves or We're concerned with their families to stay at home to take care of their families.

00:44:07.000 And in some cases, a few cops were out there looting with looters.

00:44:10.000 There's some pretty widely circulated videos of cops being caught, you know, looting a local Walmart.

00:44:18.000 So the number of police officers that will be available to try to institute martial law, I think really is is fallacious.

00:44:29.000 They just don't exist.

00:44:31.000 There won't be enough of them.

00:44:33.000 Well, it's just crazy to have the cops everywhere training to fight people that believe in George Washington, as we know.

00:44:39.000 And that's not a joke if you're a listener.

00:44:40.000 Just look up, FEMA teaches George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are bad. 0.98

00:44:44.000 I mean, it's so ridiculous.

00:44:47.000 We've talked to truck drivers who have bumper stickers on their car for my website, and TSA checkpoints scream at them and say, what is this? 0.79

00:44:54.000 I mean, these guys are so disconnected, they think in America you scream at somebody for their bumper sticker.

00:45:00.000 I mean, it's almost comical how pathetic These welfare people are there hiring to be TSA who then are at checkpoints commanding the police and military. 0.88

00:45:11.000 We got about 7-8 minutes left.

00:45:13.000 James Wesley Rawls, survivalblog.com is our guest.

00:45:16.000 It's the InfoWars 2012 Money Bomb.

00:45:18.000 48 hours as we know we're going into this collapse.

00:45:20.000 We're just trying to people that have the extra capital while it's still worth something, donate to us so we can put up a full You know, offensive resistance to the globalists in the Info War with a bunch of satellite uplinks and other things.

00:45:32.000 We're reaching 15 million a week conservatively.

00:45:34.000 We want to up that.

00:45:36.000 But if you donate to us, you know, I mean, your powder's dry right now in the Info War. 0.66

00:45:40.000 I wouldn't wait.

00:45:41.000 PrisonPlanet.tv, subscriptions, buy books, videos, whatever.

00:45:45.000 It all supports us.

00:45:46.000 We're just really putting everything in right now to try to get the word out now.

00:45:49.000 The maximum effort.

00:45:51.000 Militarily, as a military historian type, I mean, what should everybody be doing in the info war?

00:45:56.000 I know, get ready yourself, but I'm doing that, but also we need to... I think the important thing is to set up alternative venues.

00:46:04.000 It's important that people get licensed as ham radio operators, for example.

00:46:08.000 Or at least study, they don't have to get the license itself, but they need to buy the gear and study and know how to operate ham radios.

00:46:17.000 People should, if they have the opportunity, look for micro FM broadcasting equipment.

00:46:24.000 People should get involved with the Darknet side of the Internet to see how that works.

00:46:31.000 People should be ready to revert to traditional bulletin board systems with dial-up modems because the Internet may be disrupted.

00:46:41.000 Think in terms of alternative communications all the way down to technology like hand-cranked mimeograph machines.

00:46:49.000 I'm not kidding.

00:46:50.000 It may come down to that.

00:46:52.000 If you look at how the resistance was run in World War II, a lot of that was hand-cranked mimeograph machines putting out broadsheets.

00:47:00.000 It could come down to that.

00:47:01.000 So, stock up on communications gear and alternatives, especially that will serve you and your local community to get the word out.

00:47:15.000 Because the powers that be may shut down a lot of other venues.

00:47:22.000 They may severely limit the internet.

00:47:25.000 They may block out entire regions of the country that they see as, they'll call them militia hotbeds or whatever, or terrorist nests or whatever terminology they're going to use.

00:47:39.000 They can block whole ranges of IP addresses to basically segment the internet to exclude the voices they don't want to hear.

00:47:51.000 So it's important that people learn about the Darknet, and it's important that people buy the gear and get the training to broadcast locally, because it may come down to that.

00:48:06.000 Well, I've said that over and over again.

00:48:10.000 People can buy, still, mainly from England and other places, up to 200-watt, 300-watt transmitters or amplifiers.

00:48:17.000 You can hook right up to recordings, whatever, or a microphone, put up on a 50-foot little tower in your backyard, and, you know, go out 15 miles.

00:48:24.000 You go out at night, put up signs, you know, Patriot broadcasts, you know, learn the truth, go on for an hour, tell them what it's going to be, and the globalists won't be able to stop people all over doing it.

00:48:35.000 No, there'll be way too many of them, yes.

00:48:37.000 Yes, so I've called for 15 years.

00:48:40.000 Everybody should have the equipment ready and understand.

00:48:44.000 I've told people, use the banners, put up little printouts.

00:48:47.000 People will be desperate during this to learn the truth and fire up and tell people what's going on.

00:48:53.000 They can know that people would start listening to that frequency just to know whenever you're coming on, and that can be a rally point as well.

00:49:02.000 Again, they plan to shut us down, collapse things and have us beg for total welfare takeover.

00:49:07.000 That's the plan.

00:49:08.000 That's why it's so important to be prepared now, show that there's a remnant of people who are not totally dependent.

00:49:14.000 Right.

00:49:14.000 And as I've mentioned in my past interviews with you, it will only be those people who are well prepared physically, the people who Don't have to worry about where they're going to find their next meal.

00:49:27.000 The people have good food storage programs.

00:49:30.000 Those are the people who are going to have their head up and who are going to be looking at the big picture.

00:49:35.000 Everybody else is going to be so caught up in just their day-to-day existence, they won't be able to be part of an active resistance.

00:49:43.000 It'll only be the people that are well squared away, that have long since had their beans, bullets, and band-aids squared away, who can be part of the solution.

00:49:53.000 Any other areas, you know, you kind of sent a few points you wanted to get into about the harassment you've gone through lately.

00:49:59.000 That's kind of peripheral, but I think it is important just as a learning point for people.

00:50:05.000 Most recently on Wikipedia there's been a politically motivated campaign to try to delete articles about my books.

00:50:15.000 There's two different books, my latest novel, Founders, and the previous book, Survivors on a New York Times bestseller list in the top 20 They're trying to eliminate the articles about those books Claiming that the books are non-notable Let me just stop you for a moment, because I had an advanced copy of the book months ago that you sent me.

00:50:42.000 You were very nice.

00:50:43.000 Excellent book.

00:50:45.000 I didn't know that was officially out yet.

00:50:46.000 I want to carry that as soon as I can at Infowars.com.

00:50:49.000 But Founders is out.

00:50:51.000 Tell people about the basic premise of that.

00:50:53.000 Sure.

00:50:55.000 Founders is a novel set in the near future about a global socioeconomic collapse.

00:51:01.000 And it's set in the exact same time period as my first novel, Patriots, and my second novel, Survivors.

00:51:09.000 I took the approach with my sequels, instead of following the same characters farther into the future, as most sequels do, I instead focused on the same time period.

00:51:20.000 So the novels are all contemporaneous, but the geography and the cast of characters is different with each sequel.

00:51:28.000 So the latest one, Survivors, is set primarily in Kentucky and Tennessee, and then there's a major subplot that takes place at Malmstrom Air Force Base up in Montana.

00:51:43.000 And there's also a focus on some characters from my first novel, and their cross-country trek from Chicago all the way to Idaho in the midst of the collapse.

00:51:54.000 So that's my latest novel, Founders.

00:51:57.000 It hit number four on Amazon, and it was number 11 on the New York Times bestseller list the first week that it was out.

00:52:07.000 But in addition to the campaign to try to get the web pages, the Wikipedia pages about my novels deleted, there's also been A concerted effort to try to slam my novels ratings on Amazon.

00:52:28.000 There's a campaign that's obviously Orchestrated where people are putting up one-star reviews of my novel.

00:52:36.000 Well, you know why?

00:52:37.000 Because they know a lot of public that's scared won't read reality stuff, but they'll read historical or near-future novels.

00:52:45.000 And so they're scared of the narrative you've put out because you wrote books, I don't know, 20 years ago predicting all this.

00:52:50.000 They're scared of you.

00:52:52.000 And again, that's the sign you're having an effect.

00:52:54.000 And I just can't believe these people that serve the system are busy fighting us when all we're trying to do is have a civilization.

00:53:01.000 These globalists are so hell-bent on dominating that they're destroying the very system that gave them their power to begin with, which is always the downfall of the evil as they end up destroying the system.

00:53:12.000 Yes, I think they're about to be hoisted by their own batard. 0.86

00:53:15.000 And all we can hope for and pray for is that We will be in the right place at the right time with the right people.

00:53:24.000 That's my daily prayer.

00:53:26.000 And we have to trust in God, God's providence, to protect His covenant people.

00:53:31.000 And when things do fall apart, I'm confident that there'll be enough people in the right place at the right time, that there'll be a legion of folks who will be there to reinstitute constitutional government.

00:53:47.000 And small government.

00:53:50.000 Exactly.

00:53:50.000 That's what we really need.

00:53:51.000 The globalist hope is when things collapse, they can bring in total communism, controlled by the bankers who are exempt from it, as a supposed solution.

00:53:59.000 But in closing, because I know you've got to go, we've got another guest host coming up, Linda West, with her guests who are waiting right now.

00:54:05.000 We're going to play a small report, short report, and go back to them here on the InfoWars 2012 Money Bomb. 0.92

00:54:10.000 What will it be like if things really get bad with these spoiled, rotten, dumbed down, yuppie types and others who revel in being pathetic and weak and hate those of us that tried to warn them? 0.95

00:54:22.000 I mean, how pathetic will it get for these people? 0.99

00:54:24.000 We see Homeland Security, you know, TV ads and print ads about zombie apocalypse describing the public as zombies. 0.98

00:54:31.000 What are they trying to get us ready for?

00:54:34.000 Well, it's difficult to say exactly how it's going to play out.

00:54:39.000 There's definitely a pampered class that exists, and they are not ready for any kind of major disruption.

00:54:47.000 And I think when the economic world alone falls apart for them, that they're going to fall apart emotionally.

00:54:57.000 They're just going to lose it, basically.

00:55:00.000 And if there's a total collapse, which brings the power grid down, They're going to be absolutely unprepared because their whole world is geared around the power that they have of controlling the mass media and the whole economic apparatus via fractional reserve banking.

00:55:22.000 So if that all falls apart, they're not going to be able to cope.

00:55:29.000 So my advice to the people listening is You need to have the alternative worldview.

00:55:36.000 You need to have the self-sufficient worldview.

00:55:40.000 The ability to revert to 19th century technology.

00:55:45.000 You need to be able to provide for your own families.

00:55:49.000 And there's a tremendous amount of information on my website that's all available free of charge.

00:55:54.000 Again, it's survivalblog.com.

00:55:56.000 Dig into those archives, print out the most important articles, and be ready, folks.

00:56:02.000 I mean, in the 20s, you had all these bankers and people by the thousands committing suicide, jumping out of windows.

00:56:02.000 I agree.

00:56:08.000 Imagine what's going to happen when it is now sold by the media as a badge of honor to be a feat and pompous and pathetic. 0.98

00:56:19.000 These people, you know, have no idea. 1.00

00:56:21.000 And they are a bunch of narcissists.

00:56:24.000 And I just can't imagine them when their whole bandwagon ends.

00:56:30.000 And in a way, maybe it's good if it all ends, because if it just keeps happening incremental, they're going to take over.

00:56:35.000 You know, sometimes I have the sick thought of, let it go ahead and collapse, let's get this over, kind of like having a bad fever when you're sick.

00:56:42.000 But then I actually see the collapse now looming and it's really creepy.

00:56:47.000 All right, well, James Wesley Rawls, thank you so much for spending time with us.

00:56:50.000 We look forward to talking to you again soon.

00:56:52.000 And I want to get you on the full main radio show the next few weeks to talk about the new book, Founders.

00:56:58.000 Sounds great.

00:56:58.000 Thank you so much, Alex.

00:57:00.000 Thank you, sir, for coming on with me.

00:57:02.000 Praise Psalm 37 for all your listeners.

00:57:03.000 You want to quote it for people?

00:57:07.000 I can pull it open for you right now.

00:57:09.000 Absolutely.

00:57:09.000 Word for word.

00:57:10.000 I mean, I know, I know it, but I can't paraphrase it either here.

00:57:13.000 But yeah, give it to people.

00:57:14.000 Let's read that, read that scripture on air.

00:57:18.000 Okay.

00:57:19.000 Psalm 37 begins.

00:57:22.000 Let me turn, I'm in Psalm 40 here.

00:57:25.000 Psalm 37 begins.

00:57:28.000 Do not fret because of evildoers, nor be envious of the workers of iniquity. 1.00

00:57:34.000 For they shall soon be cut down like grass and wither as the green herb.

00:57:39.000 Trust in the Lord and do good.

00:57:42.000 Dwell in the land and feed on His faithfulness.

00:57:45.000 Delight yourself in the Lord and He shall give you the desires of your heart.

00:57:50.000 Commit your way to the Lord.

00:57:53.000 Trust also in Him and He shall bring it to pass.

00:57:57.000 He shall bring forth your righteousness as the light and your justice as the noonday.

00:58:05.000 So, yeah, read the Psalms, folks.

00:58:08.000 We know we're going to win.

00:58:10.000 We know that the evil ones will be cast down.

00:58:15.000 The wicked will have their judgment day.

00:58:20.000 Well, I mean, look... That's all I can say.

00:58:22.000 Exactly.

00:58:22.000 Look at Lance Armstrong.

00:58:23.000 He was a low-level corrupt guy. 0.57

00:58:25.000 But, I mean, all of these arrogant, haughty people who think they're invincible, they always get destroyed. 0.84

00:58:31.000 That's the thing about people that are really into evil.

00:58:34.000 None of us are perfect, but those that revel in it...

00:58:36.000 I've studied history.

00:58:37.000 I've seen it in my own life.

00:58:39.000 People that revel in how they're the best and they can't be beat, they are just begging to be smashed.

00:58:44.000 It's like the Titanic.

00:58:45.000 Not even God can sink this ship.

00:58:47.000 Boom! 0.99

00:58:48.000 Maiden voyage sinks.

00:58:49.000 I mean, they are just asking for it.

00:58:51.000 And again, to read that top line up there about, you know, the gifts that the righteous get and the peril of the wicked ones.

00:58:57.000 If you guys will put that quote back up on screen for me.

00:59:01.000 Uh, in there.

00:59:02.000 That'd be awesome.

00:59:03.000 The Heritage of the Righteous and the Calamity of the Wicked. 0.98

00:59:06.000 A Psalm of David, uh, 37.

00:59:08.000 Thank you so much, uh, again, uh, Mr. Rawls.

00:59:11.000 Thank you.

00:59:12.000 God bless you.

00:59:14.000 Yeah, it's definitely a great time of peril.

00:59:17.000 Any time in history you've got a bunch of decadent, gibbering people and power-tripping control freaks in charge thinking they're invincible.

00:59:24.000 Look out!

00:59:26.000 Look out, look out, look out, look out.

00:59:29.000 The more power I get, the more humble I get.

00:59:31.000 I look at these people, the more power they get, the more out of control they get.

00:59:35.000 And it scares me.

00:59:36.000 It scares me for them.

00:59:38.000 We're going to go to a quick break here with a special report.

00:59:42.000 And then our own Linda West from California, one of our reporters, is going to be interviewing a special guest straight ahead.

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01:00:10.000 Alex Jones here to cover a topic, an issue, that is one of the most important I've ever discussed.

01:00:21.000 This information is very closely held by governments and elite corporations.

01:00:27.000 They do not want you understanding this.

01:00:30.000 Now, many of you that are already aware of this, it'll seem simple, but large swaths of the global population have no idea The real geopolitical paradigm that we're living in today.

01:00:43.000 Today we will look at the real forces, the real players in the battle for 21st century global hegemony.

01:00:49.000 I'm going to break down who really rules the world, how they control the planet, and how they are trying to usher in a world war that is really pointed at the general population.

01:01:02.000 To begin my illustration, I have three different board games here.

01:01:05.000 Chess, the classic game of risk, as well as Monopoly.

01:01:11.000 And we're going to look at these systems of stylized warfare.

01:01:14.000 And between these three systems, we find the truth of the system that we're living under.

01:01:18.000 How do we know that system?

01:01:20.000 Well, books written by people like Carol Quigley at Georgetown, Bill Clinton's mentor. 0.98

01:01:26.000 They think we're stupid, and so we have their own documents. 0.93

01:01:29.000 To begin with, I'm going to use a Lego chess set as a illustration to break down primitive forms of government, warfare, and domination. 0.98

01:01:40.000 If you look at this set, you notice there are two sides.

01:01:43.000 There is the red, and there is the green.

01:01:45.000 Or there is the black, there is the white. 0.84

01:01:48.000 From the beginnings of civilization more than 6,000 years ago, until about 1700, This was the model of warfare between nations. 0.56

01:01:58.000 There were occasional alliances, but by and large, warfare and politics was carried out in a very two-dimensional way, like a chess set.

01:02:07.000 You have the ruling class, the royalty, the priest class, The military elite, the generals, and in front of them you have basically their conscripts or the lower class fighters who can also represent just the general population.

01:02:23.000 And these two groups are engaged in warfare and base domination against each other to control larger areas of land and the vassal populations living in serfdom upon it.

01:02:36.000 One area that we see from the ancient chess model that is still used in statecraft by the globalist is the fact that sometimes wars were launched, in the case of the French and the British, against each other when they had rebellions at home.

01:02:52.000 They soon learned it was a way to turn Inner anger at the state against a foreign state and to reduce the population of young males that you didn't have jobs for.

01:03:05.000 The two-sided fight is a bygone era.

01:03:09.000 In truth, for more than 300 years, the globalists have been financing multiple sides of wars, knowing that conflict destroys nations and gets countries deep into debt.

01:03:20.000 And that is the key.

01:03:22.000 They're financing both sides, and we see this being pioneered by people like the Rothschilds, starting in the 1700s and 1800s, where they would finance sometimes three or four different factions, and it didn't matter who won, because all of them were in debt to them, and had societies that were wrecked after the wars.

01:03:43.000 Next, let's look at the game of Risk.

01:03:46.000 These are primitive attempts to distill down human conflict and domination into a game you can play in a few hours.

01:03:56.000 The militaries all have basically equal resources, equal numbers of troops, and to enter into the equation, some type of random probability, we have dice and we have cards.

01:04:08.000 There is no discussion here on looking at the real model that we are under today.

01:04:14.000 We're going to come back to risk here in a moment, but first let's move to the game of Monopoly.

01:04:22.000 In the game of Monopoly, you have different economic groups or four players that attempt to engage in economic warfare against each other and then be able to create a monopoly or a single entity that is in control of New York City.

01:04:38.000 To understand the real system we're under, it's important to combine monopoly and risk with an overlay of strategy from chess.

01:04:47.000 And this is a key part of the real system we live under today.

01:04:51.000 The founder of the Rockefeller dynasty famously said that competition was a sin, and they wanted big governments that they financed and controlled to be able to shut down their competition and pick winners and losers.

01:05:05.000 This is the essence of monopoly capitalism, the opposite of free market, and it's simply a form of fascism, what Mussolini called corporatism.

01:05:14.000 So out of these three board games, Monopoly best describes our modern system.

01:05:20.000 But it itself is only two-dimensional.

01:05:22.000 You see, the private Federal Reserve that's owned by six private banks, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Bank of America, and others, They always win.

01:05:31.000 You're playing their game.

01:05:33.000 You think you're battling it out for houses and apartments and for Park Place and for the electric company and for the railroad and for the top hat and for the fashion show.

01:05:44.000 But it's the bankers that control the politicians.

01:05:47.000 They've got to get out of jail free card.

01:05:49.000 And they've got control of the money.

01:05:52.000 The Treasury works for them.

01:05:54.000 So the bank always wins.

01:05:57.000 But what happens if a country won't sell?

01:06:01.000 What happens if an African nation won't play the Monopoly game? 0.99

01:06:06.000 Or what happens if a Middle Eastern country doesn't want to be part of the modern bankster system based in London and New York?

01:06:15.000 Well, then that's where risk comes in.

01:06:17.000 Because they want to be able to take you over through economic espionage, as John Perkins has written in his bestseller, Confessions of an Economic Hitman.

01:06:26.000 But if they can't, This is in all the official CIA and State Department documents.

01:06:31.000 They will then come and finance your neighbor to attack you.

01:06:36.000 So Libby is not playing ball. 1.00

01:06:57.000 We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center in the heart of the resistance.

01:07:05.000 Rallying patriots worldwide. .

01:07:12.000 You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.

01:07:15.000 All right, everybody.

01:07:29.000 Welcome back to the Money Bomb 2012.

01:07:33.000 Hi, I'm Linda West and I'm reporting out of Los Angeles and I am so happy to be part of the Money Bomb this year.

01:07:42.000 I got to spend some time with everybody in Austin and you guys are doing an awesome job out there.

01:07:48.000 So, where do I start?

01:07:52.000 I wanted to talk a little bit about how I ended up coming to find Alex Jones and why I'm here today.

01:08:00.000 Basically, my ex-husband was a recording star and we had a good life going and I would do a lot of lounging around on the couch watching entertainment tonight.

01:08:09.000 And don't get me wrong, I have my own things that I've done, but at that time I was kind of leisurely.

01:08:14.000 And he would listen to Alex Jones all the time, and I'd hear Alex in the back kind of ranting about something, and I'd be like, what?

01:08:21.000 What are you listening to?

01:08:23.000 And finally he came over one day and he said, Linda, You're a conscious, intelligent person.

01:08:29.000 What are you doing watching this dribble on TV?

01:08:32.000 He said you need to listen to Alex Jones.

01:08:34.000 And so, that's when I began listening to Alex Jones.

01:08:38.000 And I gotta tell you, at first, especially When you don't know a lot of things that are going on, when you're naive, when you've been drinking the fluoride and nobody told you it was in there, when you start to hear the truth come in, it kind of really shakes your world.

01:08:58.000 And at first, you want to go into what psychologists call denial, because ultimately, if you let some of this new truth in, it dismantles your life as you know it.

01:09:10.000 All of a sudden, for me, what do you mean?

01:09:12.000 You mean the government's not taking care of me?

01:09:14.000 You mean everything's not going to be okay because I live in the U.S.?

01:09:18.000 Well, no.

01:09:19.000 That's not what's going on.

01:09:21.000 And it wasn't until, little by little, I started listening to Alex, and then I got angry.

01:09:26.000 And I was like, okay, I need to be part of this.

01:09:30.000 And I started doing videos on YouTube, you know, telling stories and helping wake people up, things I learned from Alex.

01:09:38.000 And you know that's why I'm here today because I wanted to be part of something bigger and I think InfoWars is doing the only job out there that's important right now as far as news because they're not bought by the mainstream media.

01:09:54.000 They're not bought by a bunch of corporations.

01:09:56.000 It's just Alex and his team members over there and it's It's fully funded by you buying things from the store and things like the Money Bomb and that's why it's so important.

01:10:08.000 And actually I even got a free membership because I'm part of the team to Prison Planet TV but I even forgot my code and I came home and I bought it again myself because for me I like to put my money where my heart is and when I think things are important I want to put my money there so that's why I myself donate to Alex Jones.

01:10:29.000 Moving on, today I have a really wonderful guest for us.

01:10:35.000 Max Egan is a very amazing man and right there next to Alex, Max Egan has been pivotal in waking me up to what's really going on in the world on a spiritual and a physical level.

01:10:48.000 Max has an amazing YouTube channel under AOD Scarecrow.

01:10:54.000 He also has a website, The Crow House, which is really informative, and has many, many documentaries.

01:11:02.000 His new one, Transformation, we're going to be talking about, but The Calling and The Awakening are just Absolutely unbelievable pieces of work, and they're for free, and you can get them right on YouTube.

01:11:13.000 So, without another moment here, let me introduce Max Egan.

01:11:18.000 Hi, Max!

01:11:22.000 Are you there?

01:11:22.000 Oh, no.

01:11:25.000 Max has been traveling the world.

01:11:26.000 He was just in Gaza, so I was a little worried he wasn't going to be able to... Hey, you guys, I can't hear Linda very well.

01:11:35.000 Oh, okay, well, I'd rather hear you talk anyway, Max.

01:11:38.000 I was just introducing you and why don't you tell people what you've been doing lately Hello, can you hear me?

01:11:50.000 Yep.

01:11:53.000 I can hear the guys in the control room very well, but I can't hear you very well, Linda.

01:11:59.000 Oh no.

01:11:59.000 Okay, well that's going to be a little difficult to interview you then.

01:12:02.000 Well, maybe the guys can help fix that.

01:12:05.000 So let me, I'll type it in for you, Max.

01:12:07.000 What have you been doing?

01:12:09.000 You've been on tour, world tour.

01:12:11.000 You were just in Gaza.

01:12:13.000 Do you want to talk a little bit about that?

01:12:14.000 Hello, yeah, well, I'm in Croatia at the moment.

01:12:28.000 I've been touring all around.

01:12:30.000 I went through Egypt and been through London and a lot of places in Europe and I'm currently in Croatia, which is very interesting.

01:12:39.000 I've been to all sorts of places.

01:12:41.000 I actually ended up in Gaza for a little while as well, which was a real education.

01:12:47.000 It's been good.

01:12:48.000 I was going to come to the United States and see you, but I haven't managed to do that.

01:12:51.000 I've decided I'm just going to pull the pin and try to get home at the end of this month.

01:12:56.000 Well, I'm not happy about that, Max.

01:12:59.000 I got the room all ready for you.

01:13:02.000 Okay, I guess I'll have to lure you next trip.

01:13:04.000 I understand you've been all over the globe practically.

01:13:08.000 So, thank you for being here since it's early in the morning with you.

01:13:12.000 So Max, a lot of my subscribers, when I let them know I was going to be interviewing you, they had questions.

01:13:19.000 So I was wondering if you would mind talking about a couple things they wanted to know about.

01:13:26.000 I guess he can't hear me yet.

01:13:28.000 Okay, so I'll just ask a question and maybe you guys can relay it to him.

01:13:35.000 All right.

01:13:36.000 Let's talk.

01:13:37.000 You want to talk about the TSA?

01:13:43.000 Okay.

01:13:46.000 What would you like to talk about with the TSA?

01:13:50.000 I'm sorry.

01:13:51.000 Max can't hear us.

01:13:52.000 Is that what's going on?

01:13:56.000 Okay.

01:13:58.000 Well, let me talk about Prop 37 and GMOs because that's really, if you don't mind, is that okay with you, Rob?

01:14:07.000 Okay.

01:14:07.000 Well, as you may or may not know, what's going on in California is there's a prop called Prop 37 that would make it mandatory to label GMOs.

01:14:19.000 As you know, GMOs are not labeled.

01:14:21.000 They're not labeled, let me just back you up a little bit so So you can understand how this went.

01:14:26.000 A lot of people here probably know, but if you watch the chain of events, it's really disgusting.

01:14:32.000 Because Mike Taylor was a lawyer for Monsanto, which is one of the biggest GMO companies out there, along with DuPont, Sagenta, PepsiCo.

01:14:41.000 But Monsanto seems to be a little extra evil.

01:14:46.000 And his lawyer, Mike Taylor, somehow ended up in a very top position at the FDA very shortly after working with Monsanto.

01:14:56.000 And when the ruling came down whether or not GMO, genetically modified foods, now let's get this right, These foods are not natural in any way.

01:15:04.000 They're actually created in a lab.

01:15:06.000 And when doctors even go to classify them, they can't classify them on the planet.

01:15:11.000 They're not a food.

01:15:12.000 They're not a virus.

01:15:13.000 They're not a bacteria.

01:15:14.000 They're nothing that actually exists on the planet, okay?

01:15:18.000 So these GMOs were created in a lab.

01:15:21.000 Look the same as other food.

01:15:22.000 They even look better sometimes and that was the whole purpose behind it was that this produce was going to look great and somehow also feed all the starving people around the world.

01:15:32.000 That was what they were promoting anyway.

01:15:35.000 And of course Of course, that wasn't the truth.

01:15:37.000 They had not done any studies on it, haven't let any real studies been done.

01:15:41.000 And in fact, when the FDA people did do the studies on the GMOs, they wrote letters to the White House.

01:15:48.000 They were very upset and said, we can't let this go out.

01:15:50.000 We haven't done enough studies.

01:15:52.000 And what we have done is not showing up, you know, very good things.

01:15:57.000 Well, these people consequently got fired or shipped off to, you know, Anchorage.

01:16:02.000 And what did happen was Mike Taylor, now the head of the FDA, passed the regulation that GMOs didn't have to be labeled because they were the same as foods that grew out of the ground.

01:16:14.000 Right, I can see how he could think that.

01:16:16.000 Something you put together in a lab and fill full of poison is the same as something that grows out of the ground.

01:16:22.000 Okay, so there we see where it began.

01:16:25.000 And now, Of course, Obama has made this same person, this Monsanto man, is now our food czar.

01:16:33.000 So that's what's going on with our food.

01:16:35.000 We've been just sold, sold out completely when it comes to our food.

01:16:40.000 So what's going on with Prop 37 is finally On the ballot in California, they're going to put it on there that you have to have GMOs labeled.

01:16:50.000 You have to give people a choice.

01:16:52.000 Let them know what they're eating.

01:16:53.000 Let them choose at least.

01:16:54.000 You can't hide this any longer because studies show that once people know GMOs are in the food, they won't buy them.

01:17:02.000 Which is why I have to go back to the amazing, and maybe you can play part of this, you guys, News story that Aaron Dykes and Melissa Mountain did with Whole Foods and I it was just Disgusting when they went in and talked to these people and the heads of Whole Foods Admitted like she was like you can't expect us to be testing for GMOs there and everything it was like Uh, yeah.

01:17:27.000 When I'm paying three times as much to go to your store because I assume you're doing that homework that I can't do myself because I'm not labeled.

01:17:35.000 Yes, I assume I'm not eating GMOs.

01:17:38.000 Yes, I assume when it says all natural, it's actually all natural.

01:17:43.000 I have been going to Whole Foods for years, you know, as a single mom, without a lot of money, paying that extra money to Whole Foods, thinking I was actually getting something healthier for my son.

01:17:54.000 I, for one, am angry.

01:17:57.000 I got ripped off so they could profit.

01:18:01.000 So if you guys haven't checked out that clip by Aaron Dyke and Melissa Melton, you really have to take a look at that because it really shows what's going on with Whole Foods and just how corrupt Monsanto and the whole GMO pushing corporations are.

01:18:16.000 And I might add, it's just coming out now, that there's a bunch of anti-Prop 37 ads going on in California.

01:18:23.000 Now you gotta remember, Monsanto actually sued the state of Vermont when they tried to label GMOs.

01:18:29.000 They put it on their ballot and Monsanto sued Vermont and they took it off the ballot.

01:18:34.000 What happened here was, all of a sudden millions of signatures got dropped off the petition somehow.

01:18:40.000 But because so many Californians are really, you know, gung-ho about healthy food, They managed to keep it on the ballot, but we've got millions and millions of dollars, and it's being traced back to Monsanto from what I heard.

01:18:53.000 It just came out today, a story.

01:18:55.000 I'll have to find the link for y'all, is the one behind all these anti-Crop 37 commercials going on.

01:19:01.000 And they've got farmers on there acting all pitiful, like, oh my God, you know, you'll put me out of business if you vote for, you know, to label these, you know, GMOs.

01:19:11.000 Folks, the truth is Monsanto has hundreds and thousands of our small farmers in litigation right now.

01:19:18.000 He's single-handedly trying to put them out of business.

01:19:21.000 He sues them because his super toxic seed blows into their all-organic field and then takes root and they're trying to get rid of it so it won't pollute all their organic food and he sues them for stealing his patented seeds so that's really what's going on and it's really sad because there's so much confusion if you look at what's going on with the commercials it looks like prop 37 is a bad thing when actually it's a really positive thing okay so on that note um gmos

01:19:50.000 i was going to talk to max about so many things because um he knows a lot about 2012 and he also knows a lot about orgone energy and he's a total fan of non-compliance which if you don't know what that is it's pretty much opting out of the system So, you know, we're not part of the system, so that the New World Order doesn't win.

01:20:11.000 But for me, Alright, Max, fabulous.

01:20:15.000 Max, I was just talking about non-compliance and your movie The Awakening and how, you know, you talked about that.

01:20:22.000 What are some of the ways that people can be civilly disobedient in a non-violent way and drop out?

01:20:32.000 Well, I think that really when you look at the system, Linda, the whole system is based on fear-based mind control, the whole thing.

01:20:40.000 And I've always said that the best form of non-compliance is love, really.

01:20:45.000 The best form of non-compliance is getting on with your neighbours.

01:20:48.000 You realise that everything that this system does It's a system that's basically designed to make humanity expendable in order to support the parameters of the system.

01:21:00.000 So we're always making humanity expendable in order to support the economic model.

01:21:04.000 So you do the opposite of that in all that you do.

01:21:08.000 That's what I do in everything that I do.

01:21:10.000 I spend my life giving to people, basically, because the system demands that I don't.

01:21:15.000 The system demands that I sell things to people.

01:21:18.000 You know, I kind of do the opposite of what the system demands of me.

01:21:22.000 In everything that I do.

01:21:23.000 And it just works.

01:21:24.000 My life just works that way.

01:21:25.000 I mean, you know, there's a lot of people that have gone through the different rabbit holes.

01:21:29.000 They've gone down avenues of freeing themselves.

01:21:33.000 People like Robert Paget in Canada have gone down different avenues.

01:21:39.000 The free man movement, all this sort of stuff.

01:21:41.000 But I think the best thing to do is to Realize that we already live in a society, we need to take this society with us in whatever we do, so we just stop complying with the parameters of this society.

01:21:54.000 And like I said, the best parameter, the best thing is love.

01:21:59.000 The best thing we can do is love.

01:22:01.000 It's a bit early in the morning for me here, guys.

01:22:04.000 It's 6 o'clock in the morning here as well, by the way.

01:22:06.000 You got me up early, so I'm not quite with it at the moment.

01:22:11.000 Oh, you're always great, Max.

01:22:14.000 You know, to take a quote of yours, I was watching one of your pieces, and you were talking about how, you know, the New World Order funds both sides of the war, and they try and tell you, well, we've got to go to war to make peace, and you know, peace is war, and war is peace, and you said, You don't go to war with the people to make peace.

01:22:37.000 You go to peace with the people to make peace.

01:22:40.000 And that's just profound.

01:22:42.000 And can you illuminate a little bit more on that?

01:22:45.000 It kind of goes with your love.

01:22:48.000 Well, you know, I mean, you don't go to war to make peace.

01:22:51.000 I mean, it's just not what you do.

01:22:52.000 I mean, and all of the wars are contrived.

01:22:54.000 All the wars that we fight are contrived.

01:22:56.000 I mean, people that listen to this show should know that.

01:23:00.000 That they're all contrived.

01:23:01.000 None of the wars that we've fought in the last 200 years have been fought on any of the reasons that they gave us for these wars to have been fought.

01:23:08.000 And recently I was just in Gaza, and that was...

01:23:13.000 That was remarkable just to see how people are used as political footballs.

01:23:19.000 To see the situation in Gaza and to see how it's never going to be healed, it's just there to create war, is quite shocking to go and see it first hand. 0.92

01:23:31.000 They're just forgotten people.

01:23:33.000 And, you know, we've got to start realizing what's going on here with these wars and with this whole system, the way it is, the way it functions. - Thank you, Angelina.

01:23:47.000 The whole system, it only functions because we hold it up, we support it, that's the thing.

01:23:53.000 So we can point the finger at the Rothschilds, we can point the finger at the banking cartels, we can point the finger at the governments, but ultimately we're the ones that are holding it all up.

01:24:02.000 I've often said to people that what your relationship with government is, is one of fiduciary trust.

01:24:07.000 And we need to put it back into that as well.

01:24:10.000 We need to understand that that's what our relationship with government is.

01:24:13.000 So we can't petition these people.

01:24:15.000 We can't vote them out.

01:24:16.000 We can't attack them by using the parameters that they give us to attack them.

01:24:20.000 We can't attack them using legal or political means.

01:24:24.000 We have to put it all back into trust and we have to realise that our relationship with these people is fiduciary trust.

01:24:30.000 That's how we have to deal with the system.

01:24:33.000 Because The government are public trustees.

01:24:36.000 That's all they are.

01:24:37.000 They're public trustees.

01:24:38.000 We give them the power that they have to enact the laws that they use to take our rights away, to have these wars and to do all the things that they do because we don't realise that our relationship with them is fiduciary trust.

01:24:52.000 So that's where I believe the solution lies.

01:24:54.000 That's how we have to deal with the situation.

01:24:57.000 We have to put it all back into trust and realise what our relationship with them is.

01:25:02.000 That has to be how we deal with it.

01:25:05.000 And really when you look at it, it's obvious.

01:25:07.000 It's absolutely obvious.

01:25:10.000 Well, absolutely.

01:25:11.000 I mean, we talk about the 1% and that we're the 99%, but the problem is, well, we're all one for one, but the fact is, until we get united, until we all remember that we're all one, you know, we won't be able to be as effective.

01:25:29.000 Right now, they work on, you know, Separating us through fear, through these different, you know, wars and things going on that say you're separate, when in fact, we're the same.

01:25:44.000 Well, they do, but the thing is that even if we were to unite, what sort of a front do we unite on?

01:25:51.000 You know, the front's got to be fiduciary trust.

01:25:54.000 It's got to be the united front that we use, because, I mean, that's the only means we've got.

01:25:59.000 That's the only method that we've got of Of dealing with the system.

01:26:04.000 You can't deal with it politically.

01:26:06.000 You can't deal with it through the methods that they give you.

01:26:09.000 You've got to do it through trust.

01:26:10.000 That's the thing.

01:26:12.000 See, we've forgotten that that's what our relationship is.

01:26:14.000 See, even when the President goes there and swears to serve the American people when the President gets elected to office, swears to serve the American people, this is showing that he's a public trustee.

01:26:25.000 This is showing that the Prime Minister of my country is a public trustee.

01:26:28.000 That's what these people are.

01:26:30.000 That's the way we have to look at it, and that's the only place Remedy will be found.

01:26:36.000 That's why we have to look at it as trust.

01:26:38.000 You see what I'm saying?

01:26:40.000 It can't be looked at as anything else.

01:26:43.000 It can't be looked at as your leaders.

01:26:45.000 You can't have to operate within political parameters or legal parameters that they provide.

01:26:51.000 You've got to put all of that after the trust agreement, which is the basis of your relationship with these people.

01:26:57.000 That's why it has to be looked that way.

01:26:59.000 That's the only way you're ever going to deal with it.

01:27:02.000 And that's the best form of non-compliance.

01:27:04.000 Absolutely.

01:27:05.000 I mean, start working out what's going on with this trust agreement before you even get to the political side of things, or even get to the legal side of things.

01:27:14.000 You know, if you're claiming you have the law or can create the legislation which you're going to use to do all these things to my society, then let's look at where you get that power from, because it's a trust agreement.

01:27:28.000 That's how we have to deal with it.

01:27:30.000 And when you get enough people that can look at the world this way, and stand in their own personal power in order to make this happen, that's when you'll get some real change.

01:27:41.000 That's about the only thing we can unite them on.

01:27:44.000 There's certain symptoms we can use to hopefully unite them, things such as coal seam gas mining, which I thought would be a great symptom we could use to unite the people, because that's something that affects everybody.

01:27:56.000 Even when people do see something as major as coal seam gas mining right in their face, again they still don't know how to unite.

01:28:04.000 So that's where it all has to come back to trust.

01:28:07.000 That's the front that they need to unite on is fiduciary trust.

01:28:13.000 Good points, good points Max.

01:28:15.000 Now I had a lot of people that asked questions, I just want to get a couple in because we're moving through this hour pretty quick.

01:28:22.000 What are you happy and positive about, Max?

01:28:26.000 That's what a viewer wanted to know.

01:28:28.000 That's a question for you.

01:28:30.000 What am I happy and positive about, Max?

01:28:32.000 What do you see good?

01:28:35.000 Oh, look, I see all this good.

01:28:36.000 I mean, I see all this opportunity.

01:28:38.000 I really do.

01:28:39.000 I think that all this really negative stuff that's happening, I think this is providing the human race and human consciousness with the greatest opportunity we've ever had for real freedom.

01:28:51.000 Because I don't think we've ever been free in the past.

01:28:54.000 I don't think there's ever been a time in human history when we've actually been free.

01:28:58.000 We've had freedom of choice, but we've never really had freedom.

01:29:02.000 Because I don't think we've ever been emotionally evolved enough or spiritually evolved enough to deal with freedom.

01:29:10.000 I think that now we are actually getting to a situation in human history where we might just be getting that spiritual evolution happening.

01:29:19.000 We may just be psychologically evolved enough now to deal with the concept of freedom.

01:29:26.000 And I think that all of this in-your-face stuff that is in our face is being provided for us to give us that opportunity.

01:29:34.000 We wouldn't be waking up if it wasn't getting so negative, so yeah.

01:29:38.000 I think it's all positive, Linda.

01:29:41.000 Yeah, I'm with you, Max.

01:29:42.000 I mean, I see a lot of dark things happening, but I see, like you said, people waking up from that because sometimes, you know, if there's not something bad going on, people are just slumbering away.

01:29:55.000 It's just like, you know, and finally we start to see things happening and people start waking up.

01:30:00.000 And the important thing is, is so many people, they get lulled to sleep with TV.

01:30:05.000 I know you're an anti-TV person or Food or whatnot or alcohol and they just get in this kind of sleepwalking spirit realm where they're not in themselves.

01:30:14.000 They're not actually feeling or seeing what's going on.

01:30:18.000 And then when they actually do start to wake up, like you said, this whole concept of freedom when, you know, we think we're free, but we're not that much different than China in the fact that all the things that get Filtered through you know the propaganda that is mainstream news before it gets to us, but moving on really quickly Another question that's you know goes along with this 2012 Now, I'm an author on books about 2012.

01:30:49.000 I connected a code, spent time with scientists in the rainforest.

01:30:52.000 Terence McKenna has his time wave zero theory, where he shows at the end of the Mayan calendar that we are about to go into the most novel time in all of history.

01:31:03.000 He supposed that It wasn't going to be the end of the world, like many people theorize, but that something so novel, such as time travel, would be invented, that it would change everything we know, that we would cease to think of death the same way, or aging, or even any linear movement, because we could go back and forth.

01:31:24.000 Therefore, time would not act as we know it, and we'd be entering a new paradigm.

01:31:30.000 What are your feelings about 2012 and what do you see coming?

01:31:33.000 Because December 21st, 2012, it's right around the corner here.

01:31:38.000 So, what are your feelings about that?

01:31:41.000 Yeah, look, I don't think it's going to be the end of the world.

01:31:44.000 I really don't.

01:31:45.000 I think that it's the end of one's life or the beginning of another.

01:31:52.000 I find Terrence McKenna's views to be interesting.

01:31:56.000 I find them to be very novel as well.

01:31:58.000 I mean, the idea that something novel could happen is a novel idea in itself.

01:32:05.000 And, you know, I mean, I don't...

01:32:09.000 Again, I think it's an opportunity.

01:32:10.000 I've never really placed a lot of credence on the whole 2012 concept.

01:32:14.000 I mean, I think it's a bit of a red herring, but again, it could be an opportunity as well.

01:32:21.000 I mean, it would appear that the planetary frequencies are rising, even the fact that we're having conversations like this and doing shows such as this, shows that there are certain frequencies of consciousness that are rising.

01:32:33.000 That's not anything new, it's just the way things seem to be going.

01:32:38.000 People are waking up.

01:32:39.000 It's the first time in human history we've been given an opportunity to be awake.

01:32:45.000 And so I think it's a good time.

01:32:48.000 You know, it's something we have to participate in.

01:32:50.000 If there is going to be a change in 2012, then it's going to require audience participation.

01:32:56.000 That's what I think with 2012.

01:32:57.000 I don't think that it's something we can just sit back and wait for the world to change on that date.

01:33:05.000 I think the people that are waiting for that are going to be greatly disappointed on December 22nd.

01:33:11.000 You know, I think it's an opportunity, but you know, we have to participate.

01:33:20.000 Yeah, I mean, a lot of people say, oh, it's just Y2K, and, you know, it possibly could be.

01:33:27.000 But then again, it's not just the Mayans, I like to say, that have pointed to this date.

01:33:31.000 It's the Egyptians, the Sumerians, Mother Shipton, Nostradamus. 1.00

01:33:36.000 A lot of different cultures have pointed to this exact date.

01:33:39.000 Which just makes it interesting to look at because why are they all pointing at the state and what's going on?

01:33:45.000 Like you said, I see a lot of positive, higher energy coming up.

01:33:50.000 We see these, you know, rebellions all over the world of people not willing to be enslaved anymore and that's beautiful.

01:33:59.000 That's spirit rising.

01:34:00.000 That's people taking action and so Yeah, I'm with you.

01:34:05.000 It's going to be a human movement that changes things.

01:34:08.000 I don't really see any devastation coming.

01:34:10.000 But on that point, Max, you're in Australia and you know our elections are coming up.

01:34:16.000 Do you have a favorite between Romney and Obama?

01:34:23.000 Look, a favourite, I think.

01:34:28.000 You're using the word loosely, I think, aren't you?

01:34:31.000 Right, it's like saying, do you like your spinach or your collard greens?

01:34:35.000 Okay, yeah.

01:34:37.000 I can't say that I'd honestly say I have a favourite from those two, no.

01:34:45.000 Obama probably will win.

01:34:51.000 But I don't think it matters.

01:34:55.000 I honestly do not think it matters one boot who wins.

01:35:00.000 Not one little bit.

01:35:05.000 It might keep certain people happy if one face is up there for a little while longer.

01:35:11.000 But I don't think it makes any difference.

01:35:14.000 I mean, the agenda goes on.

01:35:16.000 It always does.

01:35:17.000 It always has.

01:35:17.000 It makes no difference.

01:35:19.000 But I think that they'll probably keep Obama in there for a little while longer yet.

01:35:25.000 Well, I know, you know, we can't bet over here in the United States, but Paul Joseph Watson, our anchor out of London, they bet, they all bet over there.

01:35:35.000 And they said, he said the last time that he mentioned it, he said Obama was winning 70 to 30 with the bookies.

01:35:42.000 So I don't know if that's still going on after the lackluster debates he just put in, but I mean, they were both lame and they're both owned by the same people.

01:35:51.000 That's the joke of it all.

01:35:53.000 In fact, Obama was so bad, it almost seemed like he was, like, taking one for the team or something.

01:35:58.000 Like, I don't know, if he was a professional athlete, I would have said he, like, purposely threw the game.

01:36:03.000 So, it's going to be interesting to see which of the puppets they put in, for sure.

01:36:09.000 So, what's going on in Australia and your politics over there?

01:36:14.000 Well, yeah, look, it doesn't matter which one they throw in.

01:36:18.000 And it doesn't matter, see, they can have debates that are that bad.

01:36:22.000 People don't even notice anymore.

01:36:24.000 Did you see the review that I did recently of the Middle East Defence Lobby?

01:36:33.000 Middle East Defence Lobby talking about a false flag operation in Iran.

01:36:39.000 I did a video on the roof of Gaza.

01:36:42.000 Yeah, please tell everybody about that.

01:36:47.000 Yeah, but they're just talking about how they're just going to do a false flag operation and they didn't cover it up at all.

01:36:53.000 It doesn't matter anymore.

01:36:55.000 They just tell you.

01:36:56.000 So Obama can go and do a debate on television.

01:36:59.000 They don't even have to pretend that it's any good anymore.

01:37:03.000 They just get up there and speak the words.

01:37:05.000 It doesn't matter.

01:37:07.000 You can sit there and be reading a cartoon script.

01:37:11.000 People wouldn't notice.

01:37:13.000 They wouldn't notice.

01:37:14.000 If you read the script with sincerity, they would not notice that you're reading a cartoon script.

01:37:20.000 Okay, America's not that bad.

01:37:23.000 I think they might notice that. 0.98

01:37:25.000 We are pretty dumbed down, though. 0.98

01:37:26.000 I mean, man, when Dambadandi went out on the street asking people about the Constitution, well, they knew the Simpsons characters and they didn't even know the Constitution, so that was pretty pathetic. 0.98

01:37:37.000 Exactly. 0.90

01:37:38.000 Exactly.

01:37:39.000 See, this is what we're dealing with.

01:37:41.000 They can tell you now.

01:37:42.000 Look, we're going to Flames.

01:37:43.000 Look, you know, if the American president can't get us to war, perhaps it would be best if someone else was to start the war. 0.75

01:37:51.000 You know?

01:37:52.000 Right.

01:37:54.000 They're just telling you blatantly what they're doing.

01:37:57.000 And look, I can't tell you what the politics are like in Australia at the moment because I've been right out of the news because I've been travelling.

01:38:03.000 I'm still in Croatia at present.

01:38:07.000 Well, so let me tell you the latest thing.

01:38:11.000 Okay, I hate to laugh because it seems like, you know, I don't care, but they just arrested a terrorist that was going to blow up the Federal Reserve in New York City.

01:38:22.000 Now let me tell you this, Max, because you're going to love this.

01:38:25.000 So at first, it just comes out with a 21-year-old man was going to blow up the Federal Reserve.

01:38:31.000 And I'm thinking, oh boy, somebody on Occupy Wall Street just took it to the next level, because we all know how everybody feels about the Federal Reserve.

01:38:38.000 But no, it ends up being this gentleman.

01:38:42.000 He sounded like a Muslim name.

01:38:43.000 He's not from there.

01:38:44.000 I can't remember where they're saying he's from now, anyway.

01:38:47.000 one of those long names that sounds Muslim and they're saying it was a terrorist act that he was going to blow up the Federal Reserve.

01:38:54.000 But the FBI said, "Don't worry, we actually had our hands through the whole thing.

01:39:00.000 We got the van that he used and the bomb material." So, and it's like, okay, so this guy was on Facebook, maybe saying something, you know, When did the FBI come in?

01:39:13.000 And if they were in control of everything, it wasn't really a terrorist attack, was it?

01:39:18.000 Because they were in control of the bomb.

01:39:21.000 This is the kind of stuff that's going on over here, where you're like, wait a minute.

01:39:25.000 So what was it?

01:39:26.000 Was this an FBI entrapment thing or was this an actual terrorist act?

01:39:32.000 Yeah, that's what's going on over here.

01:39:33.000 A bunch of more confusion basically.

01:39:36.000 I heard a little bit about that actually.

01:39:38.000 I heard a news report someone sent me about how the FBI sold him the 1,000 pound bomb and they sold him all the stuff that he needed to make the bomb and they sold him the whole thing.

01:39:50.000 So yeah.

01:39:51.000 I mean, that's not the first time they've done that either, and you're like, oh no, but they were part of the Batman thing during the time when the UN was trying to outlaw our guns.

01:40:01.000 No, they had nothing to do with setting that guy up, who just hung around looking all drugged up and got arrested.

01:40:07.000 It's great, isn't it?

01:40:09.000 Yeah.

01:40:10.000 Let's just find some unsavory character.

01:40:12.000 We'll set him up to be a bomb man in France, and we'll sell him all the parts, and then we can say we caught a terrorist. 0.80

01:40:18.000 I mean, fantastic idea, and this is how they do it.

01:40:22.000 They don't even cover it up anymore, that's the thing.

01:40:25.000 So yeah, it doesn't matter about the presidential debate, it doesn't matter about what they tell you, because people don't listen, they don't pay attention.

01:40:34.000 Now Max, over in Australia, because over here they're always trying to limit our gun rights, you know, even during the debate they brought the question up and both of them danced around it, of course, because so many Americans are pro-Second Amendment.

01:40:47.000 But in Australia, they took away your guns, right?

01:40:50.000 What year was that?

01:40:51.000 And how'd that go down?

01:40:52.000 And what do you think about that? 0.99

01:40:53.000 Because I get Australians writing me all the time saying, don't give up your guns, darn it! 0.96

01:40:59.000 Well, if they did that, it was back in the early 90s. 0.98

01:41:05.000 And they did it with the Port Arthur Massacre.

01:41:09.000 Martin Bryant, who was Patsy.

01:41:10.000 I mean, there's no way that all happened the way they said it did.

01:41:14.000 Not possible.

01:41:16.000 But Australians, they can be very apathetic and you can talk them into things. 1.00

01:41:20.000 They're very compulsive people.

01:41:23.000 And when the government said, yeah, you've got to give up all your guns, I went, oh yeah, OK, no worries.

01:41:28.000 We'll give up all our guns.

01:41:29.000 We can't have anything terrible like that happening.

01:41:32.000 Of course, there were a lot of people who didn't.

01:41:33.000 There were a lot of people who buried guns around the place, and there is reports of Large caches of guns going around the place.

01:41:43.000 But um, you know, they did do it very very quickly.

01:41:48.000 But it shows how easily it can be done.

01:41:51.000 We're simply staging a false flag operation.

01:41:54.000 Which is what the whole Port Arthur Massacre was.

01:41:57.000 But okay, with Australia you've got a very disunited population.

01:42:01.000 Because you've got only 22 million people in this country.

01:42:07.000 But they're spread out over the whole country, so you've got wide open spaces and you haven't got a lot of common unity in the community, so it's very easy to get people to do things like that when they're in this united community.

01:42:20.000 Something about in America, at least you've got You know, pockets of united community.

01:42:25.000 You might have a disunited country as a whole, but you've got pockets of community that are kind of united within themselves very often because you're very densely populated.

01:42:37.000 We don't have that here in Australia.

01:42:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:42:42.000 So Max, let me just mention to everybody, if you're wanting to donate to the Money Bomb, you can call in to 882-253-3193.

01:42:53.000 And if you're wanting to call later, we have a call in number two if you want to call in and talk to the guests.

01:42:59.000 But Max, let me ask you one last question I think we have time for before.

01:43:04.000 Somebody wanted to know your opinion on Orgone Energy.

01:43:07.000 Is it possible?

01:43:08.000 Do you see it ever coming into being in our lifetimes?

01:43:11.000 What are your feelings about that?

01:43:12.000 Look, I've got a lot of Orgonite that people have sent me.

01:43:16.000 I don't know what to think about it.

01:43:18.000 I mean, it's there.

01:43:19.000 It's all over my bench at home.

01:43:21.000 I love this stuff.

01:43:22.000 I think it's quite beautiful.

01:43:23.000 I like the feeling that I get when I'm around it.

01:43:28.000 That's about all I can really say.

01:43:30.000 I mean, people swear by it.

01:43:32.000 Some people don't.

01:43:34.000 So, I mean, try it out for yourself and see how it feels.

01:43:38.000 I like it.

01:43:39.000 I like being around the stuff.

01:43:43.000 But I mean, it's not going to save the world.

01:43:49.000 It all takes audience participation.

01:43:51.000 Everything we do takes participation.

01:43:54.000 We can get all these energy devices to keep ourselves up to the right level, but we can just do it in ourselves anyway.

01:44:01.000 We don't really need anything that's external to ourselves.

01:44:04.000 All we need is ourselves.

01:44:07.000 Excuse me.

01:44:09.000 What we need is that spark that's within ourselves.

01:44:14.000 That's how we change things, by changing that spark, changing the energetic state that we're in, realizing our own power and applying that to the world that we live in.

01:44:22.000 That's how we change the world.

01:44:24.000 We don't need anything external to ourselves.

01:44:27.000 That's something that people often miss.

01:44:31.000 Yeah, I'm with you.

01:44:32.000 I'm with you there, Max, because so many times people will be, well, what can I do?

01:44:36.000 And a lot of times, even get weighed down, myself included, like, how much can one person do?

01:44:42.000 The problems, they seem so enormous, and so many of them.

01:44:47.000 And ultimately, What we can do, like you said, is if we just really stay in that love-centered place, caring about each other, making movements because we care about each other, we care about the world, we care about our children, and not getting too caught up in the anger and the fear, we can make a difference.

01:45:09.000 And, you know, it sounds kind of Pollyanna-ish, but ultimately, I'm hoping somewhere along the way that 100th Monkey Theory kicks in, and if enough of us are in the right place and want the same good thing, that that will become the critical tipping point, and we'll see a different world.

01:45:27.000 That's what I have to believe in, and that's why I keep getting the message out, and I know you do, too.

01:45:33.000 So, any parting words that you can leave with everybody today, Max?

01:45:39.000 Well, that is truly the point, and it isn't polyamorous at all.

01:45:44.000 I mean, you can change the world by changing your energetic state, but you've got to apply it to the world around you.

01:45:51.000 That's the thing that people miss.

01:45:53.000 You know, we can do things.

01:45:56.000 One small voice can make a difference.

01:45:59.000 You know, I'm living proof that it can, and so are you, and so are people like Alex.

01:46:03.000 I mean, there's people that are just one voice, but they've made a difference.

01:46:09.000 Only because they're willing to participate.

01:46:11.000 They're willing to get out there and do what they can and lead by example in what they do.

01:46:15.000 And that's how we change things.

01:46:17.000 You've got to lead by example in what you do.

01:46:19.000 You've got to participate.

01:46:20.000 Put yourself in the right energetic state.

01:46:23.000 But don't just lock yourself away from the world.

01:46:25.000 Don't go building an alternate community.

01:46:27.000 We already live in community.

01:46:30.000 We just have to fix the community that we live in.

01:46:34.000 And we do that by applying ourselves to it.

01:46:37.000 And I do it simply by asking questions.

01:46:39.000 Asking the right questions to the right people.

01:46:41.000 Always being polite in all that I do.

01:46:45.000 But not backing down to these people.

01:46:47.000 That's truly non-compliance.

01:46:51.000 Is knowing who and what you are.

01:46:52.000 Because that's ultimately what you're searching for.

01:46:55.000 All the rabbit holes you go down, what you're looking for is yourself.

01:46:58.000 And once you find it, you realise the truth of that.

01:47:03.000 That's the truth.

01:47:04.000 Amen.

01:47:04.000 Is that not the truth?

01:47:05.000 It all comes back to you, finally.

01:47:08.000 So Max, people can find you if they want to find you.

01:47:11.000 Your website is The Crow House.

01:47:14.000 Your YouTube is AOD Scarecrow.

01:47:18.000 They can also find your documentaries on your YouTube channel.

01:47:22.000 Is that the best place to go, or The Crow House?

01:47:25.000 Yeah, the YouTube channel or the Crow House.

01:47:27.000 It's all there on the Crow House.

01:47:28.000 You can find a link to the YouTube channel, the Facebook page.

01:47:31.000 It's all there.

01:47:33.000 You can contact me via the Crow House.

01:47:35.000 The forums are down at the moment.

01:47:36.000 They've been hacked again.

01:47:38.000 You get that, yeah.

01:47:40.000 Yes, lovely YouTube.

01:47:42.000 The minute you start putting out any real truth, I know Alex's channel goes through this all the time and they just stop giving you views or they won't let you upload something or whatnot.

01:47:53.000 I know you get a lot of that too because your channel is so big.

01:47:57.000 And because you've done so much to help, Max, I really have to say to everybody, if you haven't gotten a chance to ever listen to any of Max's radio interviews or his videos or his documentaries, they are amazing.

01:48:11.000 And it's also a really great way, because like you said, Max, I don't know about you, but You know, just reaching out and talking to people can be so fearful because people don't want to talk about real things.

01:48:24.000 They don't want their world shattered.

01:48:26.000 And to find a way to bring up a very important and sensitive subject and just have a Real conversation, human to human.

01:48:34.000 That's part of being an info warrior.

01:48:36.000 That is hard in itself.

01:48:38.000 I'll be in line and I'll be like, I want to tell them about Prop 37 and GMOs and like, while they're standing there with Wonder Bread and the three kids, but you know, the fear thing comes up.

01:48:49.000 But you have to work through that because that's what love's all about, really.

01:48:52.000 Having enough love for the other person to be like, well, I don't feel comfortable saying this, but wow, you should know this just in case.

01:48:59.000 Anyway, Max, it's early for you.

01:49:01.000 It's late for me.

01:49:02.000 And I want to thank you so much for coming on and taking time.

01:49:10.000 And I'm going to have to really chastise you for not getting to L.A.

01:49:13.000 to see me, though, on this trip.

01:49:15.000 We'll talk later about that, Max.

01:49:17.000 Yeah, not a problem.

01:49:18.000 Sorry about that.

01:49:19.000 I just got burnt out and decided it was time to go home.

01:49:22.000 You're just afraid I'll take you out surfing.

01:49:25.000 Yeah, yeah, right.

01:49:28.000 Okay, Max, is there anything you want to say before we go?

01:49:31.000 No, look, that's about it.

01:49:34.000 Thank you for having me on.

01:49:35.000 Sorry about the shaky start.

01:49:38.000 Remember Palestine.

01:49:39.000 Remember Palestine, folks.

01:49:41.000 I've got my Remember Palestine wristband on.

01:49:44.000 I was just there.

01:49:45.000 Don't forget Gaza. 0.99

01:49:47.000 I'll say that.

01:49:48.000 Okay, Max.

01:49:49.000 And you can watch those videos of Max on YouTube in Gaza, and they're really worth watching, because they really moved me.

01:49:57.000 So, great job, Max, and stay safe, and we will talk to you soon, and thank you so much for being our guest tonight, and being part of the Money Bomb 2012!

01:50:06.000 Thank you, Lynn.

01:50:10.000 Bye-bye.

01:50:11.000 Well, everybody, we're going to Jakari Jackson next, right, for the Money Bomb?

01:50:21.000 Okay, so everybody, thank you so much.

01:50:24.000 This is Linda West.

01:50:25.000 I'm signing off here in Los Angeles, and Jakari Jackson is coming up next, and you all know how thrilling, exciting, and handsome he is, so you want to stick around for that.

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01:51:53.000 Second year UT law student Cody Wilson has devised a plan to print guns from a three-dimensional printer.

01:52:04.000 Now this is a regular printer, and this is a regular sheet of paper, and this is a picture of a gun, but there's really no difference.

01:52:11.000 Now whether or not these guns will be classified as Title I or Title II remains to be seen, but the main point here is the little man has his freedom intact.

01:52:21.000 Our Second Amendment rights may be simply printed from a printer.

01:52:26.000 And that scares the pants off of the tyrannical government. 1.00

01:52:29.000 People say, oh, you know, now everyone can have a gun.

01:52:31.000 Everyone can already have a gun.

01:52:32.000 This is America.

01:52:33.000 I mean, you know, and wiki weapons aren't anytime soon going to be the real threat to human civilization. 0.97

01:52:38.000 Defense Distributor has developed two prototypes.

01:52:41.000 These are WikiWeapons A and B. WikiWeapon A is what we're calling our teaching prototype.

01:52:47.000 It's designed to have no moving parts and be completely electronic in its action.

01:52:51.000 It'll have a solenoid and electronic add-ons after it's been printed, so in effect, it's only the beta for the fully realized vision that we're talking about.

01:52:58.000 WikiWeapon B is the trickier animal.

01:53:01.000 WikiWeapon B is conceived to have a fully mechanical action.

01:53:03.000 The electronic versus the mechanical operation of a trigger mechanism is one that actually evolved from the Olympics.

01:53:10.000 Olympic-level shooters were looking for a quicker lock time, and the only way to really ensure an instantaneous lock time is to eliminate the mechanical components.

01:53:21.000 So what was done is they created an electric ignition system.

01:53:25.000 I called San Antonio later, and, you know, they didn't know.

01:53:28.000 This guy was like, look, just to be safe, man, It's probably Title II, it's probably NAOW, get a license, it's not that hard.

01:53:35.000 I said, okay, yeah, but you know, fine.

01:53:37.000 I mean, that's the answer I needed.

01:53:39.000 So I know I've got to hide behind a license because some prosecutor's going to have way too much discretion if I do this without one.

01:53:44.000 We approached the local ATF office for comment.

01:53:47.000 A representative from the Washington, D.C.

01:53:49.000 Bureau responded with this email.

01:53:52.000 The term, any other weapon, Means any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive.

01:54:03.000 A pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell.

01:54:10.000 Weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more.

01:54:15.000 Less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading.

01:54:23.000 The 3D printer company, Stratasys, had no comment but referred us to the statement they had made to Defense Distributed.

01:54:30.000 Based upon your lack of a license and your public statements regarding your intentions in using our printer, Stratasys disagrees with your opinion.

01:54:39.000 It is the policy of Stratasys not to knowingly allow its printers to be used for illegal purposes.

01:54:45.000 According to recently acquired documents, Stratasys is working with Remington Arms and Knights Armament Company that is in bed with DARPA, along with the Defense Department.

01:54:56.000 Stratasys was so proud of their work with Detroit Gunworks after building a prototype upper and lower receiver of a .308 caliber pistol.

01:55:04.000 That they tweeted about it.

01:55:06.000 The biggest concern is their lack of control.

01:55:08.000 And that's just the way it is.

01:55:10.000 They want to be able to say when we can, how we can, and where we can.

01:55:14.000 And that's not their place.

01:55:16.000 And they're looking for every excuse under the sun.

01:55:18.000 And in this case, they're looking and actually creating myths and fables in order for the American populace to believe, to legitimize their actions towards doing this to this young inventive man.

01:55:30.000 Who's actually taking a brilliant machine, put it to brilliant use.

01:55:34.000 The first order goal is to do what we said we wanted to do at the very beginning.

01:55:39.000 Which is simply to see if this works.

01:55:41.000 This being, you know, the wiki weapons.

01:55:43.000 Taking other people's designs.

01:55:44.000 And if there are candidate files that actually hold up to some standard of safety, work one time, even if it's still kind of dangerous.

01:55:52.000 Look, we believe you're responsible enough to know that it's dangerous, and we believe we're responsible enough as a society to share these things and collaborate and perfect these things as technology improves.

01:56:01.000 In 1993, the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act was signed into law, regulating potential gun owners by means of a background check.

01:56:11.000 The snowballing war against our Second Amendment rights continued as the United Nations drew up the Global Arms Trade Treaty that attempted to create a global registry of private ownership of firearms.

01:56:23.000 This treaty would mandate creation of a national collection agency for the confiscation of small arms.

01:56:29.000 Meanwhile, the Obama administration was walking thousands of small arms across the border into the hands of Mexican drug gangs.

01:56:38.000 In a failed attempt to demonize the Second Amendment.

01:56:41.000 Is the printable gun revolution moving forward?

01:56:44.000 Or does Big Brother already have a stranglehold on the technology?

01:56:49.000 I'm John Bowne for InfoWars Nightly News.

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01:57:49.000 Alright, now we started off with a printable gun story, and it kind of ties into what I'm going to do, because as you can see, I got my come and take it shirt right here.

01:57:58.000 Infowarshop.com.

01:57:59.000 I believe these are actually on sale during the money bomb, so check that out and get yourself one.

01:58:05.000 But we're going to be talking about guns.

01:58:06.000 Second Amendment.

01:58:08.000 And that's what this hour is all going to be about.

01:58:10.000 Coming up a little bit after the break, I'm going to be joined by Matt Williams.

01:58:13.000 He is a firearms instructor and armorer.

01:58:17.000 He's a great guy and knows a lot about guns.

01:58:19.000 So any of you gun aficionados, get your gun questions ready.

01:58:23.000 He does everything from concealed carry classes to gunsmithing.

01:58:26.000 So anything that you want to know, definitely get your questions ready.

01:58:30.000 And we'll start taking questions probably about halfway through the hour.

01:58:33.000 But first, you saw the John Bowne skit on the printable gum, and I have an article here.

01:58:38.000 Now, I'm going through some articles.

01:58:40.000 These aren't breaking news articles.

01:58:42.000 These are articles that we've either covered earlier in the year or maybe we didn't have a chance to talk about.

01:58:47.000 But important Second Amendment articles that we're going to talk about right here.

01:58:53.000 Headline, Printable Gun Revolution Moving Forward Despite Corporate Second Amendment Fears.

01:58:59.000 Now this is what was referenced in the John Bowne piece that you just saw.

01:59:03.000 The printable gun is, well, let's first talk about the printer.

01:59:06.000 They have these, I guess they call them the 3D printers, that can actually print solid objects.

01:59:10.000 So instead of printing a, you could print a picture of a pen on a piece of paper, you could actually print out the pieces to make a moving functional pen.

01:59:19.000 So this guy, in the videos you saw, he took it a step further.

01:59:22.000 He said, why don't we create weapons, you know, using these printers, which is a very smart idea.

01:59:28.000 You know, you go to the gun store, you can expect to pay a minimum of a $300, you know, charge to get your firearm, which that's really not even a good Good price for a firearm.

01:59:39.000 I mean, your real good ones are probably 400, 500 plus.

01:59:43.000 But this guy says, hey, we'll take this technology, make a moving, fully functional firearm in the comfort and privacy of your own home.

01:59:51.000 I guess you can also customize it to whatever your specifications are.

01:59:54.000 And you see the article right there on your screen.

01:59:57.000 And what basically happened is the printable gun company comes and they shut them down.

02:00:02.000 They say, hey, you can't print guns, but our big defense contractors can.

02:00:06.000 So, you know, they're stepping all over this guy, you know, the little guy can't make a buck.

02:00:11.000 But, you know, the big the big boys who, you know, want to take these things out to a war theater.

02:00:16.000 Hey, they're more than welcome to talk.

02:00:18.000 They're more than welcome to get into that.

02:00:20.000 And we'll talk about that with Matt Williams coming up.

02:00:23.000 Now, but first, before we get to Matt, I have a whole list of articles, a whole stack of articles about people using their Second Amendment rights to defend themselves and their families.

02:00:35.000 Now, we always hear about these big shootings, the Colorado shootings and this and that and whatever else, but we rarely hear about these people who, you know, defend themselves lawfully With their Second Amendment rights, and that's something that's very important.

02:00:50.000 These things rarely get covered in the news, and when they do, it's quickly swept under the rug.

02:00:54.000 And I definitely recognize things like Colorado.

02:00:56.000 Those are great tragedies, but there have been great tragedies averted.

02:01:00.000 Because people took it upon themselves to be armed, to know their Second Amendment rights, and to act responsibly.

02:01:06.000 I'm not advocating cowboys and vigilantes, you know, shooting up everything.

02:01:10.000 I'm not about that at all.

02:01:12.000 I don't even think everybody, I mean, everybody has a right to own a gun to an extent.

02:01:16.000 But if you're not a responsible gun owner, if you're fidgety with a gun, or you're afraid you're going to shoot your dog or whatever else, don't go out and buy a gun.

02:01:23.000 Don't buy a gun because your neighbor just got their house broken into because you're buying it out of fear.

02:01:27.000 You're going to end up doing something that you don't want to do.

02:01:30.000 So definitely be responsible with your firearms.

02:01:32.000 We'll talk about that with Matt in just one second.

02:01:35.000 But I don't even know where to start with this stag.

02:01:38.000 These are just some of the more recent examples that we've seen this year.

02:01:41.000 So I'll start with an article I actually covered.

02:01:44.000 Headline, St.

02:01:45.000 Paul mom daughter hold burglar for police with pink gun. 1.00

02:01:50.000 Now this is a story I had a chance to cover on the Info Wars Nightly News.

02:01:55.000 A responsible gun owner and mother came across somebody who was in their house and they had this to say.

02:02:00.000 What the hell are you doing in my house?

02:02:03.000 Said the 56-year-old Rebecca Larson when she found the suspected burglar inside. 0.63

02:02:08.000 So she said, hey Jack, what are you doing in my house?

02:02:10.000 And the guy, he didn't heed the call.

02:02:13.000 So the lady, and I'm not advocating this, but the lady locked herself inside the house with the guy and fought the guy, this 56-year-old woman. 0.98

02:02:22.000 I gave this guy the business.

02:02:24.000 I don't know if you guys can pull up on the screen a picture of this guy.

02:02:27.000 You know, to me, he seems like a guy who should be able to take a 56-year-old woman, but hey, maybe she was a little extra scrappy.

02:02:36.000 So she starts getting it on with the guy.

02:02:38.000 She wrestles him down to the ground, holds this guy down to the ground, this 56-year-old woman, and her daughter comes from downstairs, from upstairs, carrying her pink gun, and holds the guy at gunpoint. 0.96

02:02:50.000 So, this is an example of at least someone who acted responsibly with a firearm.

02:02:55.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:02:55.000 I'm not advocating somebody in your house.

02:02:57.000 If somebody's breaking into your house and they want to leave, just let them go, I'd say.

02:03:00.000 But grandma, or I guess she's not old enough to be a grandma, but mama wasn't having it. 1.00

02:03:05.000 Uh, wrestled a guy down and her daughter came and held the guy at gunpoint until the police arrived. 1.00

02:03:10.000 So, you know, no shots were fired.

02:03:13.000 The girl, if you guys had a chance to watch the clip, we're not going to play it right now for the sake of time, but if you watch the clip, the girl says she didn't even want to shoot the guy.

02:03:20.000 She just said, hey, as long as he stays on the ground, won't be a problem.

02:03:24.000 The guy stayed down.

02:03:25.000 I got arrested and now he's back in the pokey. 0.99

02:03:29.000 Next story.

02:03:30.000 This is actually something I remember because this happened back when I was in Oklahoma from my home state of Oklahoma.

02:03:35.000 Headline Blanchard mother who shot killed intruder recalls home invasion terror.

02:03:41.000 You guys can see it right there.

02:03:42.000 A young mother shot and killed an intruder at her home Saturday.

02:03:46.000 18 year old Sarah McKinley said the suspect terrorized her for more than 20 minutes as they tried to break into the house.

02:03:54.000 So I don't see what the problem is with that.

02:03:57.000 Somebody tries to break into your house for 20 minutes.

02:04:00.000 You know, I think they're coming in to do you some harm.

02:04:02.000 So I guess there's plenty of time to go get her shotgun. 1.00

02:04:05.000 She loaded it up and gave the guy the business.

02:04:09.000 Mama and daughter are still alive and well to this day.

02:04:13.000 We'll move on.

02:04:14.000 These, like I said, these are just the more recent stories that you can type in Google or whatever.

02:04:18.000 People defending themselves with firearms.

02:04:20.000 Plenty of lawful Law-abiding citizens using their Second Amendment rights to protect themselves and their family.

02:04:26.000 Next story.

02:04:27.000 Woman, 65, single-handedly stopped five masked thugs from robbing her pawn shop.

02:04:34.000 Now, you know, if you guys are watching this on PrisonPlanet.TV, if you go and watch, many of these stories have videos.

02:04:43.000 If you watch any one video, I'd suggest this one.

02:04:45.000 This is probably the best video out of the whole stack I have here.

02:04:49.000 It looks like a three stooges skip.

02:04:51.000 These guys break into a pawn shop to rob this lady. 0.99

02:04:54.000 She pulls out the Roscoe, right?

02:04:56.000 Yeah, maybe hold on for one second.

02:04:58.000 The lady pulls out the Roscoe. 0.99

02:05:00.000 She fires two shots.

02:05:01.000 I don't even think she hit any of the guys, but it's like a three stooges skit.

02:05:05.000 These guys all run into the door, trying to push the door, but it's the door that you pull open, and then they throw each other off, and then they run outside.

02:05:13.000 And the guys try to get into the van, but the van drives off and leaves the guys.

02:05:16.000 So we'll just watch this for just one second.

02:05:21.000 Okay, so the guy, we see the reporter breaking down the scoop.

02:05:25.000 So I'll read this while we wait.

02:05:28.000 When five masked thugs attempted to rob a Southern California pawn shop earlier this week, the 65-year-old woman who owned the shop scared them off by firing two rounds from her handgun.

02:05:41.000 So we see the guys getting out of their vehicle right there.

02:05:44.000 They walk into the store.

02:05:46.000 They pull out their bags, ready to steal some ill-gotten gains.

02:05:51.000 Now you can see the guys break off.

02:05:54.000 All running.

02:05:56.000 Move Moe, move Larry.

02:05:57.000 And then they run outside.

02:05:59.000 Oh, get him Grandma.

02:06:00.000 Okay, she's in high pursuit.

02:06:03.000 And it doesn't go.

02:06:05.000 Oh, here we go.

02:06:05.000 Okay.

02:06:06.000 So here's the getaway vehicle.

02:06:08.000 The guys try to get in.

02:06:09.000 I guess this guy's scared too.

02:06:10.000 Drives off, leaves some of his buddies.

02:06:14.000 Oh, man. 1.00

02:06:15.000 Stupid criminals, man. 1.00

02:06:17.000 That's probably gonna end up on Jay Leno. 1.00

02:06:19.000 Anyway, the lady protected herself and her business lawfully in the, you know, in responsible means. 1.00

02:06:27.000 She, like I said, she didn't run outside shooting at the guy. 0.83

02:06:29.000 She shot at him by their insider store.

02:06:31.000 They ran off and she lived to see another day.

02:06:34.000 And I just want to drive this point home.

02:06:35.000 That's why I have so many of these articles here.

02:06:37.000 Next story.

02:06:39.000 Excuse me.

02:06:40.000 Woman forced to shoot intruder to protect herself and her children.

02:06:43.000 Martha Lewis said she immediately called the police and woke up her two daughters.

02:06:47.000 This is when the suspect was already in her home.

02:06:49.000 Lewis says she gave the intruder several warnings before shooting, but he wouldn't listen.

02:06:53.000 And I like this up here in this article.

02:06:55.000 It says door police chief John Duckcock.

02:06:59.000 They have not yet spoken to him as he is in medical medically unresponsive.

02:07:05.000 Whenever he comes out of sedation, he's combative and has to be sedated once again.

02:07:11.000 So there's definitely a wild guy right there.

02:07:14.000 The guy is so wild in the hospital, even with a bullet wound in him, that they have to sedate him again.

02:07:18.000 So this is definitely a woman who is acting in the best interest of herself and her family to keep her family safe. 0.97

02:07:25.000 Now this guy has a bullet in him and they're safe at home watching Looney Tunes or whatever the kids do now these days.

02:07:32.000 Now, we'll switch gears for a little bit, and we'll talk about bullet purchases.

02:07:36.000 Now, I have an article in front of me, this from Paul Joseph Watson, headline, DHS purchases 200 million more, more rounds of ammunition.

02:07:46.000 Now, just to give you the history on this, DHS has been running around buying up all kinds of bullets.

02:07:53.000 Right here in the article you can see that this says that in the last six months alone, over 1.2 billion bullets have been purchased by DHS.

02:08:02.000 And then they went out and bought 200 million more bullets, and I think somebody did the math, they said it's what, three, four bullets for a person, every man, woman, and child in the U.S.

02:08:12.000 And they decided to go out and get 200 million more, and they say they're gonna go use these for target practice.

02:08:20.000 That's a whole lot of target practice there, guys, and even this one says some of these new rounds are gonna be for snipers.

02:08:27.000 And these guys are going out purchasing armored pill boxes.

02:08:31.000 I'm not exactly what these guys are planning for.

02:08:33.000 I mean, I may be a conspiracy theorist, but it seems like a little martial law preparation.

02:08:38.000 There's that word prepping.

02:08:39.000 So, hey, I mean, if I go buy a couple boxes of bullets and some bottled water, I'm a prepper, but they're preppers.

02:08:46.000 And I mean, I guess that's OK.

02:08:48.000 Speaking of guys, this guy isn't even a prepper.

02:08:50.000 If we can get a doc cam right here.

02:08:52.000 Man investigated by police for buying ammunition.

02:08:55.000 So we just saw an article right here.

02:08:58.000 DHS is running around buying 200 million more rounds of ammunition.

02:09:03.000 But this guy goes out to the store, buys three boxes of ammunition to go shoot at the range.

02:09:10.000 Which is nothing, I don't see anything wrong with that.

02:09:13.000 This guy goes out, buys three boxes of ammunition to shoot at the range, and he gets a call from the state police.

02:09:19.000 Some snitch, I don't know if it was somebody who worked at the gun shop or some other customer, was there and snitched on the guy for going out and buying a few boxes of bullets, saying that they thought he may go do something crazy.

02:09:33.000 I don't know what's crazy about a few boxes of bullets especially when the government's buying 1.2 billion in the last six months alone but if you watch this video the the guy says that he just went out to the store to get a few rounds to shoot the weekend he's a fisherman you know when he has a time off he likes to go shoot his guns nothing wrong with that but i guess uh you know the government hates competition They don't want this guy to have three bullets to protect himself and the family.

02:10:01.000 Now, when we come back from our next break, I'm going to be talking to Matt Williams.

02:10:06.000 And this is one of the things I really want to talk to him about.

02:10:07.000 This is actually something he brought up to me.

02:10:10.000 And this is a story that I remember, because actually I wrote a paper on this back when I was in college.

02:10:15.000 It was really more of an opinion piece.

02:10:16.000 It wasn't, you know, real thought out.

02:10:17.000 But you know, it was something that illustrates the point.

02:10:20.000 Of you know, Second Amendment rights and particularly concealed carry rights.

02:10:25.000 Headline, Luby's Massacre Remains Among Nation's Worst Mass Shootings.

02:10:29.000 Now, some of you guys may not remember this.

02:10:32.000 I believe this happened back in 1991 of a Luby's restaurant, you know, was attacked by a gentleman who drove his truck into the Luby's restaurant, hopped out and began firing at the occupants inside.

02:10:46.000 This wasn't a robbery.

02:10:48.000 It was just a guy who was out to kill as many people as he could.

02:10:52.000 And it's a horrible situation, but there's a testimony from one of the survivors that she gives, it's not in this article, but she says, the thing about this is, this wasn't an assault weapon, because we hear all the talks about Obama, you know, how he wants to ban assault weapons just recently in this last debate, and we'll talk to Matt about that also.

02:11:12.000 But in this, this was a semi-automatic handgun and a revolver.

02:11:17.000 So this guy armed with no automatic weapon went in and it says 23 were left dying.

02:11:24.000 No, 23 were dead or dying and more than 20 were injured.

02:11:30.000 So eventually this guy ended up killing himself, but he didn't need assault weapon.

02:11:34.000 I mean, had he been motivated enough to get a winning arrow to butch and I started stabbing people, I doubt he would have had such a high body count.

02:11:40.000 But guns don't kill people. 0.99

02:11:42.000 Eric Holder does, as is a great sign that We did a report.

02:11:47.000 I think Rob Dew did that report.

02:11:48.000 The guy had that sign.

02:11:49.000 Guns only kill people. 0.99

02:11:50.000 Eric Holder does.

02:11:51.000 And hey, it is very true.

02:11:54.000 And I'll finish up here with a few more articles.

02:11:56.000 Now, these are some of the more popular self-defense stories.

02:12:00.000 92-year-old shoots and kills burglar.

02:12:03.000 Now, this is the guy.

02:12:04.000 He heard some commotion in his basement, so he sat in his rocking chair in front of his basement door, waiting for somebody to pop their head out.

02:12:11.000 When he did, he shot the guy with his .22 rifle.

02:12:15.000 So Mr. Earl Jones has some excitement about 2 a.m.

02:12:20.000 He killed the guy.

02:12:21.000 I don't see anything, you know, defending your home at 2 in the morning from strange sounds.

02:12:27.000 But I guess the DHS does, because they want those bullets.

02:12:30.000 Well, those are kind of small caliber, so maybe they don't want those.

02:12:33.000 And last story, as far as the self-defense, 71-year-old concealed carry holder opens fire on two would-be robbers.

02:12:40.000 Now, this is also a great video.

02:12:43.000 This guy, I love this video so much because the guy was just so cool and calm.

02:12:49.000 The guy, he like spun around in his chair like Dr. Evil or something and he started shooting at the guy.

02:12:53.000 He was just so cool and calm.

02:12:56.000 He got up, he chased the guys out, he hit both of them.

02:12:59.000 He fired several rounds, I'm not sure how many, but my understanding is he did hit both of the guys while they were trying to flee.

02:13:05.000 No innocents were shot.

02:13:08.000 The guys got out of there and nobody was hurt besides the two gentlemen and maybe, you know, some minor property damage.

02:13:13.000 But everybody was safe.

02:13:15.000 The gentleman was safe.

02:13:16.000 Everybody else in there was safe.

02:13:17.000 And everybody in the video was pretty calm.

02:13:20.000 If you guys have a chance to watch the video, which we may not get to for the sake of time.

02:13:24.000 But everybody in the video is pretty calm, and as the guy's running around shooting, but the two guys get out there pretty quick in a hurry.

02:13:32.000 So anyway, stay tuned with us.

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02:15:05.000 We'll go to break and we'll come back with Mr. Matt Williams, firearms instructor and armorer, right here in the studio after this break.

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02:15:21.000 But anyway, we'll go to break and we'll come back with Mr. Matt Williams, firearms instructor and armorer right here in the studio after this break.

02:15:30.000 So stay with us.

02:15:31.000 The National Defense Authorization Act empowers the U.S. military military to operate on American soil.

02:15:40.000 They can arrest American citizens and cart them off to detention centers anywhere in the world.

02:15:46.000 Basically turning the entire homeland into a battlefield and allowing the military to arrest individuals and detain them indefinitely without trial.

02:15:55.000 Now this violates every aspect of a free society by denying Americans their constitutionally protected right to due process.

02:16:03.000 How do you think the average American is going to respond?

02:16:06.000 The same way they responded at the Kent State massacre when National Guard troops were used to fire live ammunition on students who were non-violently protesting the Vietnam War.

02:16:17.000 The American public was outraged.

02:16:19.000 The military's here to defend us, not to prosecute us and arrest us and throw us in jail.

02:16:24.000 I think it's a sneak attack by Congress and people to, you know, counter the movement on Wall Street.

02:16:30.000 These people are saying that the passing of the bill, basically it means to them that the Rubicon has been crossed.

02:16:36.000 That this means America will become complete and possibly irreversible, a totalitarian military state.

02:16:43.000 Well then our only hope is some defective armed force members.

02:16:46.000 I think that's our only chance as the military needs to enforce our constitution and our congressmen are trampling over the rules that were established over 200 years ago and that's the whole problem.

02:17:00.000 There's too much corruption in the executive branch and in the congressional.

02:17:04.000 What would you say to active military who might be told to enforce this bill?

02:17:11.000 Listen, I'm a veteran of the United States Army, 31 uniform, airborne.

02:17:15.000 I'll tell you what, very simply we take an oath to protect this country from threats both foreign and domestic.

02:17:23.000 It's not good, it's not healthy for our democracy, for the American Army to be involved. 0.95

02:17:28.000 For those people who say that, oh, it could never happen here, it could never happen to us, those are called the famous last words.

02:17:34.000 Many times throughout history, situations have happened where governments have turned their military against its citizens.

02:17:41.000 You know what?

02:17:41.000 History repeats itself.

02:17:43.000 If that eventuality does happen, You have to remind yourself that these are your brothers and sisters and neighbors and people you went to school with.

02:17:52.000 Remember what you're truly fighting for.

02:17:55.000 It's for our Constitution, not for these puppets who are actually our servants who have run amok.

02:18:01.000 Now, Stuart Rhodes, the founder of Oath Keepers, recently appeared on the InfoWars Nightly News and he warned people that we are now at the point where all that will save liberty in America is another American Revolution.

02:18:13.000 But really, you should see this as a declaration of war against the American people.

02:18:18.000 That's how we should see it.

02:18:19.000 We need to stop this right now.

02:18:20.000 If we don't, Alex, I do believe that there will be no recourse except another revolution.

02:18:25.000 Otherwise, we are going to be lost.

02:18:27.000 We will be put in the same position as the Founding Fathers were in 1775.

02:18:31.000 I want to tell the military and police.

02:18:34.000 The globalists are going to sit offshore and watch you get chewed up in a fight with the American people.

02:18:39.000 It's very important that police and military really make a decision now which side they're going to be on.

02:18:46.000 The military, you're right, choose now whom you shall serve.

02:18:50.000 Either you or...

02:18:52.000 I'm talking to the military out there especially. 0.99

02:18:54.000 Either you are a son of the Republic and you will defend the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, or you are a traitor to your country and you are nothing but a lowly dog, an obedient dog to the powers that be. 0.92

02:19:06.000 Choose now whom you shall serve.

02:19:10.000 There's a lot of constitutionalists out there who are in such an uproar that they're saying that this bill places us in almost exactly the same position that our forefathers were in when they were forced to take up arms in defense of liberty.

02:19:24.000 Back in 1775.

02:19:26.000 Well, to those people I would say it's a culmination of things that have put us in that position and I would agree that the architects, the great and highly intelligent architects that constructed our infrastructure, the way we do business and the way we do politics and the way we live here in America They would turn over in their graves and they would be very ashamed of us and how far we've let this go.

02:19:56.000 Indefinite detention without due process leaves citizens without the legal protection of the Constitution, and it strikes at the very heart of the essence of U.S.

02:20:06.000 law.

02:20:06.000 It is positively shameful that any elected representative would even consider voting for such an assault on so sacred a fundamental value as the right to due process.

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02:21:00.000 I'm joined in studio by Mr. Matt Williams.

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02:21:14.000 Now, Matt, we had a chance to talk during the break.

02:21:17.000 So, I just want to get your take on a few of these things.

02:21:20.000 You were telling me about the DHS bullet purchase, and you were telling me why they need hollow point, you know, instruments.

02:21:26.000 Well, as far as the bullet purchase, you know, it's two-fold.

02:21:30.000 One, they bought as many rounds as they actually did because in the firearms industry, everyone's taught to train as though they're fighting.

02:21:39.000 Because you're developing muscle memory, you want to stick to those fundamentals.

02:21:43.000 Changing things that you practice at the range only to do something completely different out in real life is fatal.

02:21:50.000 So there's some truth to the practice ammo.

02:21:54.000 The bigger problem I see is federal ammunition themselves.

02:21:59.000 Why the bullet that they're selling is actually what I carry.

02:22:04.000 They've been in bed with the government for a long time, particularly Lake City Arsenal.

02:22:09.000 Lake City Arsenal, which is a government arsenal, they've sort of done a lot of work with packaging for both military as well as civilians, and sometimes ammunition made for the military would be sold as surplus to civilians, and still is today.

02:22:26.000 I see that purchase as more of a good old boy purchase.

02:22:28.000 You know, you got CCI Spear, which does Gold Dot Lawman brand.

02:22:33.000 It's almost half the price, and it does the identical thing.

02:22:38.000 So it didn't make much sense to me why they actually bought Federal HST to practice with.

02:22:44.000 It's a fantastic round, and there's really no surviving it.

02:22:47.000 I haven't heard of anyone who's survived a round from it yet.

02:22:51.000 But yeah, it seemed more of like doing a friend a favor type deal.

02:22:56.000 So if nothing else, it was maybe a waste of money?

02:22:59.000 I think it was a waste of money.

02:23:00.000 I think buying that much ammo of that quality...

02:23:05.000 Uh, absolute waste of money.

02:23:06.000 You could be a lot more cost effective, especially in the economy we're in right now.

02:23:10.000 You don't need to be spending that kind of money.

02:23:12.000 Um, you know, in the industry, everyone tries to utilize a percentage based on a one-shot stop.

02:23:18.000 Right.

02:23:18.000 Well, there's no magic gun.

02:23:20.000 It doesn't matter how powerful the gun is, they don't turn people off.

02:23:24.000 Right.

02:23:24.000 Um, there's still muscle movement and some, unless it's a headshot, there's brain activity, in which case some people have literally had their heart liquefied And fought long enough to kill people.

02:23:36.000 So, I mean, we're not very different from wild animals.

02:23:40.000 And many of you out there who are deer hunters, I'm sure you've hit a deer and seen a deer just go hundreds of yards into the forest.

02:23:52.000 While most humans will submit to that kind of pain, there is a rare breed out there that won't.

02:23:56.000 And unfortunately, that rare breed is usually malicious.

02:24:00.000 So it's usually the person you're facing.

02:24:01.000 So I can understand purchasing the ammo.

02:24:05.000 I just don't agree with the intelligence of the purchase.

02:24:08.000 I think it was just, you know, as I said, an old boys club type thing where they were just doing each other a favor.

02:24:15.000 Alright, our guest is Matt Williams and the site is gunfightersclinic.com, correct?

02:24:20.000 Correct.

02:24:21.000 Alright, now Matt, tell us a little bit about what you do.

02:24:23.000 I know you personally, but you are a firearms instructor and you're also an armorer, a gunsmith.

02:24:30.000 Yeah, basically I've been a competitive shooter, a little bit of a hunter.

02:24:36.000 I've been slacking lately, but trying to get back out there.

02:24:40.000 I've also done instruction on a personal level, so I do basic handgun classes, tactical handgun classes from beginner to advanced.

02:24:49.000 We also, I'm certified through the state of Texas to provide the concealed handgun license, which has been really the main staple of the business.

02:24:58.000 I actually look forward to the tactical handgun classes after doing, you know, 3,400 CHL classes.

02:25:04.000 Uh, and then at the same time also do armor work, um, whether it be on an individual's gun, a movie set, uh, anywhere where armor is needed, really.

02:25:12.000 It's just, uh, picking up the extra work.

02:25:15.000 Worked as a gunsmith locally here.

02:25:17.000 Had a great time doing it, um, but, uh...

02:25:20.000 Instruction really has taken over a large part of my life.

02:25:24.000 So, came on to the Alex Jones Show, started working.

02:25:28.000 We did the beta test for Brothers in Arms.

02:25:30.000 Yes.

02:25:31.000 Which is a little bit of limbo right now, but I see a lot of possibility for revival.

02:25:36.000 But that's pretty much the gist of it.

02:25:39.000 That's what I do, how I do it.

02:25:42.000 The CHL, as I said, is really, I'm sorry, the Concealed Handgun License, is really the focal point of what we provide, though.

02:25:48.000 Okay, good.

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02:26:07.000 Once again, the number to call in is 877-789-ALEX, and that will get you on the air with Matt Williams, firearms instructor.

02:26:16.000 Now Matt, we had a chance to speak a little bit earlier about another topic, that being the Luby's Massacre back in 1991, and you thought this was a very significant Well, I mean, I hate to say that something like this was significant, this shooting, but it brought to light the issue of concealed carry in the state of Texas.

02:26:33.000 Can you tell us a little bit about that?

02:26:34.000 Well, I mean, our our legislatures over decades of time have constantly robbed us of our liberties and rights, and they've done it for the safety of a few base... well, it's really not safety for anyone.

02:26:45.000 The person's already dead.

02:26:48.000 Basically they've implemented laws making it more restrictive on what we can purchase, what's imported into the country, and what us as civilians can actually own in comparison to our military.

02:27:02.000 There's been a lot of heated debate.

02:27:03.000 We're a civilized nation.

02:27:04.000 We came a long way in 200 years, but at the same time, the terms of our Second Amendment were put into place for a specific reason.

02:27:12.000 That reason was life, liberty, or death.

02:27:15.000 It wasn't just a hunt.

02:27:16.000 It wasn't just a hunt.

02:27:17.000 Actually, to be honest, back then, hunting is a privilege.

02:27:20.000 It's always been a privilege.

02:27:21.000 It's never been a right anywhere on this planet.

02:27:25.000 They implemented it, I believe it was in 2001, Supreme Court acknowledged it for the right of self-defense as well as hunting.

02:27:35.000 It's just self-defense, yes, but they downplayed it.

02:27:39.000 The thing that irritated me is you had the National Rifle Association that was pretty happy and kudos about it.

02:27:45.000 I could see their point, you know, getting hunting as a right is a big step.

02:27:49.000 But the teeth of the Constitution stipulate, you know, that our rights to bear arms shall not be infringed.

02:27:58.000 And it wasn't stating the government, it wasn't stating the military, it was stating the people.

02:28:02.000 That's right.

02:28:04.000 And they twist it and contort it and they do everything else to try to change it.

02:28:09.000 And at the end of the day, we need them.

02:28:11.000 I mean, there's crime out there.

02:28:12.000 It's real.

02:28:13.000 And people die every day because of it.

02:28:15.000 In many cases, it's because they don't have a means of self-defense.

02:28:19.000 That's exactly right.

02:28:20.000 With the Luby massacre, you had an individual run his truck into the restaurant, get out with two handguns.

02:28:26.000 He was serious.

02:28:27.000 And he systematically executed people like they were cattle.

02:28:30.000 He wasn't rushing.

02:28:31.000 He was taking his sweet time about it.

02:28:34.000 And anyone who tried to rush him to take him down was shot and killed.

02:28:39.000 It became a very pivotal point, not only for Texas, but the entire country.

02:28:43.000 Exactly.

02:28:45.000 They took forth that step to issue concealed handguns because they realized 9-1-1, that's the mop-up crew.

02:28:51.000 They don't stop crime.

02:28:52.000 They try their best and it's not a lack of their effort.

02:28:55.000 Right.

02:28:56.000 It's just not realistic.

02:28:57.000 You don't care how many cops you have on the streets. 0.79

02:28:59.000 I don't care what level of power you give them.

02:29:01.000 Right.

02:29:02.000 You will never stop crime.

02:29:04.000 It's an inherent nature of mankind.

02:29:07.000 So, to rob us of our rights to defend ourselves without being able to guarantee protection, in my opinion, is criminal in itself.

02:29:15.000 That's a very, very good point.

02:29:17.000 Now, we saw recently in the debates with Barack Obama saying that he wants to ban semi-automatic weapons.

02:29:23.000 So first, can you give me your take on semi-automatic weapons?

02:29:25.000 Do you think that, you know, that's something necessary or even just something that we should be able to have?

02:29:30.000 Well, that's the whole thing, is people... Excuse me, fully automatic weapons.

02:29:34.000 Fully automatic weapons, right now, it's been legal to buy and sell fully automatics, weapons, suppressors.

02:29:41.000 Destructive devices, certain items called any other weapon or AOW in the industry which boils down to pen guns to grenades.

02:29:51.000 A lot of people put the word necessary into it and it's almost like it's almost like opening the Bible and interpreting God's Word.

02:29:59.000 It's pretty to the point.

02:30:00.000 You know, you either do it or you don't.

02:30:02.000 Yes.

02:30:02.000 And the Constitution's pretty much the same way.

02:30:04.000 And our forefathers had the brilliance, had the capability, and had the realistic approach of what was going on with the British.

02:30:12.000 They knew that there may be a day where we may need those guns to fight off tyranny once again.

02:30:18.000 And that is why it was put in there.

02:30:19.000 Not for self-defense of someone who's going to break into your house, which is definitely an application. 1.00

02:30:24.000 Definitely.

02:30:24.000 And it's been real popular lately for your stories.

02:30:28.000 But hunting had nothing to do with it.

02:30:30.000 Matter of fact, You know, in Europe, only the rich hunt.

02:30:34.000 It was an aristocrat sport.

02:30:36.000 Right.

02:30:36.000 You know, poor people didn't hunt.

02:30:37.000 Matter of fact, there's people who are hung for hunting on private lands.

02:30:40.000 Really?

02:30:41.000 I didn't know that.

02:30:41.000 Yeah, you'd be either incarcerated or executed, depending on your crime.

02:30:46.000 So you couldn't hunt on it.

02:30:47.000 It was a big crime.

02:30:48.000 It was like how the Wild West was with cattle wrestling. 0.95

02:30:51.000 You steal someone's cow, you paid the price.

02:30:53.000 Right.

02:30:53.000 Now, if you touched on something that was really good, you said that When we talk about the Second Amendment right, we talk about somebody's right to bear an arm.

02:31:05.000 That can be given to you from the government.

02:31:08.000 I really messed that sentence up, but getting back on the topic now.

02:31:11.000 It's my day.

02:31:12.000 Yeah.

02:31:12.000 So, you know, when you have the Second Amendment right, it's your right to bear arms.

02:31:16.000 There's nothing that they can give you, your government can give you, because they can't be there to protect you all the time.

02:31:20.000 And going a little step further than that, you had the excellent point that, you know, the Second Amendment right is not to just to hunt or to fight off some guy who may break into your house at three in the morning.

02:31:31.000 It's to stop a tyranny, which could be your government.

02:31:36.000 I mean, a lot of people don't want to talk about that, but you bring up the point that if need be, you know, even here in the United States of America, you may have to fight off your government to some extent for your rights.

02:31:47.000 It could be a multitude of things.

02:31:51.000 Yes, civil unrest, mass disobedience, it could be invasion, it could be revolution, it could be a lot of things.

02:31:57.000 You've got to keep in mind, the people, the frameworkers of our Constitution developed it in a time where they just got finished fighting the British.

02:32:06.000 It's not like they didn't know what they were talking about.

02:32:08.000 It's not like these weren't the scholars of their generation.

02:32:12.000 These people knew very damn well what was being done.

02:32:15.000 Matter of fact, when Thomas Jefferson wrote that, and it was revised, the only change that was revised is the capitalization of letters.

02:32:24.000 Okay.

02:32:25.000 That's the only thing that they changed.

02:32:27.000 They say they put a comma in there and the comma was for a brief pause to allow the militia to keep arms. 0.94

02:32:33.000 Well, that's ridiculous. 0.81

02:32:34.000 It's redundant. 0.96

02:32:35.000 Of course the militia is going to have it.

02:32:36.000 A lot of people say the militias are United States military.

02:32:39.000 It's not.

02:32:40.000 The militia is a regulated, a well-regulated militia.

02:32:44.000 Well, the term well-regulated 200 years ago meant disciplined and trained.

02:32:48.000 So that could be anybody.

02:32:48.000 Yes.

02:32:50.000 So it's just an organization.

02:32:51.000 Keep in mind, we fought off The British, not with a military, but with organized militia.

02:32:58.000 Well regulated militia.

02:32:59.000 Just like you and me.

02:33:00.000 Yes.

02:33:02.000 Okay, well we got loaded phones.

02:33:05.000 Alright, not to cut you off Matt.

02:33:06.000 Let's see, Scott in Virginia.

02:33:08.000 Let's see what you got, Scott.

02:33:12.000 Hey guys, first time caller.

02:33:14.000 I just wanted to know, you said we have a right to bear arms, which I agree with.

02:33:19.000 I just wanted to know about the access to ammunition.

02:33:22.000 Do you think they'll tax it like cigarettes in order to curb our availability to have it?

02:33:28.000 I'll hang up and listen to your answer.

02:33:29.000 Thank you guys.

02:33:30.000 That's a great question.

02:33:33.000 Actually, they've been taxing it for the last 20 years.

02:33:36.000 I used to be able to go out and buy ammunition for pennies on the dollar in comparison to what it is today.

02:33:41.000 I mean, literally, I'd say 20 years ago, I could buy it for what you reload for now.

02:33:47.000 And when you reload, it's like 10 cents on the dollar.

02:33:50.000 They have taxed it to a degree, but you also got to look into the components of the precious metals, the brass, the copper, the lead, and so forth.

02:33:57.000 That also actually commands a premium.

02:33:59.000 I do see them wanting to tax it.

02:34:01.000 They've attempted to do it before.

02:34:02.000 They'll try to do it again.

02:34:04.000 It is our job as Americans to, every time they try one of these things, to meet them at that line and that door with our teeth bared.

02:34:13.000 If you cower, if you say, okay, and become complacent because you're on your couch with your iPad, it's your fault.

02:34:20.000 It's not my fault.

02:34:21.000 It's not anyone else's fault.

02:34:22.000 It's your fault.

02:34:23.000 You didn't take the action to fight back and say, no, this is unacceptable.

02:34:28.000 So I do see it as a constant thing they keep putting in.

02:34:31.000 I think it's a great question.

02:34:33.000 The only way to combat it is, as I said, to meet them at the hilt.

02:34:37.000 Don't let them push these things onto you.

02:34:40.000 We get taxed to death as it is.

02:34:42.000 Most of our taxes, well I wouldn't say most, but a good portion of them go overseas, where our interests really aren't met.

02:34:48.000 Yeah, the bankers over there.

02:34:50.000 Yeah.

02:34:50.000 The number to call in is 877-789-ALEX.

02:34:51.000 Let's go to our next caller.

02:34:56.000 Manon in Alaska, you are on the air.

02:35:00.000 Oh, I'm so excited, Jakari.

02:35:03.000 Oh, you're my favorite.

02:35:05.000 I'm so excited.

02:35:07.000 I'm donating tonight.

02:35:08.000 Oh yes, please, please donate.

02:35:10.000 The number is 888-253-3139.

02:35:11.000 Please go ahead with your question and or comment.

02:35:18.000 Okay, my question and or comment, I would like to know how to let you know about some old movies about GMOs with your email, but I know it's only appropriate for your guest to get this question.

02:35:30.000 I really have a big question because I've been around a lot of Mormon people and I've been in their storehouses, especially up here in Alaska, and I saw all kinds of ordinance and reloading and powder and I mean These people have been preppers for eons, and I'm just curious as to what your guest thinks as to why

02:35:55.000 The certain candidate isn't puffed more because I could go to a whole bunch of Mormon people's houses now.

02:36:03.000 These people are high up and they've been loading shells forever.

02:36:08.000 So just so I can give him a specific question, can you tone that down to a specific question?

02:36:13.000 I don't know what to do, Ja'Kari, because I'm just so excited.

02:36:15.000 I'm actually talking to you.

02:36:16.000 You don't know how popular you are up here in Anchorage.

02:36:21.000 My friend Eileen Bear, she has a Grand Duchess furniture store.

02:36:25.000 She's got the papers there and she and her husband love you and they'd love for you to come up and be able to speak.

02:36:30.000 She'd host an event. 0.71

02:36:31.000 Wow.

02:36:32.000 You're very popular.

02:36:33.000 You're a very popular young man.

02:36:35.000 Alright, Alex, you heard that.

02:36:37.000 Get me on a plane to Alaska.

02:36:39.000 Yeah, please, please.

02:36:40.000 We'll do what we can.

02:36:42.000 Thank you.

02:36:43.000 Matt, go ahead with your response.

02:36:45.000 It's real simple.

02:36:47.000 We, and I don't I don't pretend to speak for the Mormon people.

02:36:51.000 I'm not a Mormon.

02:36:52.000 I have some friends that are Mormons.

02:36:56.000 From what it's been told to me, it's part of their faith to have two years of preparations for survival purposes.

02:37:03.000 It's not something that's new.

02:37:04.000 It's something that they've been doing for a couple hundred years.

02:37:06.000 Is that correct?

02:37:07.000 Are you still on the line?

02:37:09.000 No, okay.

02:37:10.000 Alright, go ahead.

02:37:11.000 So, basically it's just in their nature.

02:37:14.000 One of the largest prepper communities you'll see, some of the largest firearm sales you'll see, ammunition sales are based out of Utah.

02:37:22.000 You know, they're avid shooters.

02:37:24.000 It's really that simple.

02:37:25.000 So, they stay prepped.

02:37:27.000 Okay, we'll go now to Stephanie in Texas.

02:37:30.000 Welcome to the show, Stephanie.

02:37:32.000 Hey, thank you.

02:37:33.000 Thank you very much.

02:37:35.000 I've got a couple questions for Matt.

02:37:38.000 Matt, I've got a concealed weapons license when I lived in Virginia.

02:37:42.000 I've been here in Austin for about a year and a half.

02:37:45.000 And when I was in my class, I know that Texas recognized Virginia, you know, to be able to have a concealed weapon.

02:37:52.000 Correct.

02:37:53.000 But now that I'm a resident in Texas, do I need to get a concealed weapons license here because of a resident?

02:38:01.000 No, no.

02:38:03.000 We have reciprocity in 33 states.

02:38:05.000 So does Virginia.

02:38:06.000 So basically what happens is when you move here, previous to 2007, yes, you would have had to re-license.

02:38:13.000 But since 2007, the reciprocity has become more firm with these states, in which case you only have to, you will have to retake the exam when yours expires.

02:38:24.000 You can't renew it.

02:38:25.000 You'll actually have to take the Texas exam, which is a full course.

02:38:28.000 But your CHL is good until the date of expiration.

02:38:33.000 Okay, one more quick question.

02:38:35.000 Sure.

02:38:35.000 So I only have one handgun at this time, and I wanted to get another one.

02:38:40.000 It's registered.

02:38:41.000 I know they're going to come, you know, eventually, and I'd like to get a couple more to, you know, bury, whatever.

02:38:52.000 Is it possible to do that legally without registering?

02:38:55.000 Yeah, in the state of Texas there is no registration.

02:38:59.000 Texas is very unique to the country as you can well imagine when it comes to firearms.

02:39:05.000 We are actually the only place in the United States where you can take a firearm into the Capitol building.

02:39:11.000 They actually welcome it.

02:39:11.000 As a matter of fact, there's the general public line and then there's the concealed handgun license line.

02:39:16.000 It will take you anywhere between 20 to 45 minutes to get through the standard line.

02:39:22.000 Concealed handgun license, two to three minutes.

02:39:26.000 Oh, great, okay.

02:39:27.000 Alright, so I can just go to a gun show and pick out what I want and I'm good to go.

02:39:31.000 You're here in Austin?

02:39:34.000 Yes.

02:39:34.000 Yeah, there's actually a gun show this weekend and there's actually several great shops in the area as well.

02:39:41.000 Okay, well, can you tell me quickly where the gun show is this weekend?

02:39:45.000 The Saxxit gun show is going to be on North Lamar and... North Lamar and... yeah, no, I can't.

02:39:52.000 But I, uh... That was a good effort.

02:39:55.000 Yeah, if you type in Saxxit, S-A-X-E-T.

02:39:58.000 The dress code?

02:39:59.000 Okay.

02:40:00.000 Tell me again, guys.

02:40:01.000 Alright, I will do.

02:40:02.000 Okay.

02:40:04.000 Oh, Expo Center.

02:40:04.000 Yeah, I apologize.

02:40:06.000 Travis County Expo Center.

02:40:08.000 So if you check that out, you can also check out some of the gun ranges.

02:40:11.000 You know, and everyone's really apt with ladies purchasing handguns. 1.00

02:40:16.000 There's a growing number of it.

02:40:18.000 So feel free, you know, go have fun with it.

02:40:21.000 I spent a lot of time at the gun range in Virginia when I got my weapon.

02:40:26.000 I've never really used one, so I did pretty good actually.

02:40:31.000 And I suggest the Gunfighters Clinic when you have to re-qualify for your concealed carry permit.

02:40:36.000 Yeah, if you need a license, if you need any instruction, give us a call.

02:40:40.000 Alright, will do.

02:40:42.000 Thanks so much.

02:40:42.000 You're very welcome.

02:40:43.000 You have a wonderful evening.

02:40:44.000 Alright, thank you.

02:40:45.000 And we'll move on now to Jack in Texas.

02:40:48.000 You're on the air, Jack.

02:40:50.000 Hey, how you guys doing?

02:40:51.000 Pretty good.

02:40:53.000 Hey, I'm going to put you on the hot spot.

02:40:56.000 1968 Gun Act.

02:40:58.000 You already know about it. 0.75

02:41:00.000 My point is, is I know plenty of felons, unfortunately, that have, uh, they still conceal carry, and they just, they don't care, and their motto is, if you get caught conceal carry, you're a dummy.

02:41:14.000 How do you guys feel about that?

02:41:15.000 I know, well, not law-abiding citizens, but I know people with non-criminal records who carry with no license.

02:41:22.000 Well, just to give our audience a little background, the 68-Gun Control Act said that, well, that's where they came up with the law, which if you're a convicted felon, you can't carry a handgun.

02:41:31.000 Go ahead, Matt.

02:41:33.000 Yeah, and even in the state of Texas, convicted felons can have firearms.

02:41:37.000 They just have to wait until five years after the last date of any kind of time served, and that firearm has to remain in their house.

02:41:45.000 But yes, in the state of Texas, felons can have guns.

02:41:49.000 And the point I was making is that a lot of these guys are veterans.

02:41:54.000 Um, of wars, and is what there is, is they, they're not out to harm anybody, but they, just their mindset is this, if something goes down, I'm going to, I'm going to be there.

02:42:06.000 Does that make any sense?

02:42:07.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:42:08.000 Have you ever heard the old adage, uh, it's best to be judged by 12 and carried by six? 0.84

02:42:12.000 Uh, yeah, but unfortunately I live in Austin and we are kind of liberal, so it's going to, it's going to bite either way.

02:42:19.000 That's why I try to stay on the outskirts, buddy.

02:42:21.000 I completely feel you on that.

02:42:23.000 Okay.

02:42:24.000 Yeah, that was it, man.

02:42:25.000 I was hoping I'd get you guys nervous, but apparently I didn't.

02:42:27.000 No, no, no.

02:42:28.000 Actually, I covered that a couple weeks ago.

02:42:31.000 Maybe it's, you know, Alex ran in there.

02:42:33.000 He said, talk about the 6-Day Gun Control Act.

02:42:34.000 So, I knew a little bit about it.

02:42:37.000 Yeah, there's a...

02:42:39.000 You know, they keep passing, uh, there's, you know, the 1934, there was 1968, then they had the 86 ban, uh, the 86 ban stopped all new manufactured machine guns from getting transferred over into civilian hands, and then you had the Clinton ban, you know, which was in 91, uh, was it 93?

02:42:58.000 93.

02:42:58.000 And that had a 10-year sunset.

02:43:00.000 No, it was 93.

02:43:01.000 Yeah, and it did absolutely nothing.

02:43:03.000 Crime actually went up.

02:43:05.000 Yes.

02:43:06.000 I was hoping to get you guys all stirred up and that it didn't work, but hey, stand true.

02:43:13.000 I appreciate you trying.

02:43:14.000 All right, thanks for your call.

02:43:15.000 All right, the number to donate is 1-888-253-3139.

02:43:19.000 That's for the InfoWars Money Bomb, our 48-hour broadcast.

02:43:25.000 I'm sitting right here with Matt Williams, firearms instructor, and we will take another call.

02:43:30.000 Is that Dan in Hawaii?

02:43:35.000 I live in Hawaii, which is one of the top five most restricted areas as far as debt ownership.

02:43:47.000 I was wondering if you guys had any comment on what we can do to change that here in Hawaii.

02:43:53.000 I live on one of the smallest islands.

02:43:54.000 We used to have two firing ranges.

02:43:57.000 You were allowed to carry your gun from your home to the firing range or from your home to hunt, but now that the firing range is closed, it's basically illegal to carry a gun in your vehicle.

02:44:07.000 In Hawaii, there's no concealed carry permit.

02:44:12.000 You're not allowed to concealed carry, and I was just wondering if I could get any insight from either one of you guys as to how restrictive it really is.

02:44:18.000 Are we really in the top five?

02:44:22.000 One of the most restrictive states as far as gun laws.

02:44:25.000 Okay, I'll let Matt answer that.

02:44:26.000 I'm just curious, what do you hunt in Hawaii?

02:44:29.000 We hunt boars, which are a wild pig.

02:44:31.000 We also have goats.

02:44:32.000 So I live on Kauai, which is the smallest island, the oldest island, the farthest west.

02:44:40.000 So yeah, we got the wild boars.

02:44:42.000 It's called Kalua Park, so if you ever come to Hawaii, get to Kalua Park.

02:44:46.000 It's excellent.

02:44:47.000 Yeah, no, I've always wanted to actually do that.

02:44:51.000 I always wanted to come to Hawaii.

02:44:53.000 The best thing I can tell you is numbers.

02:44:56.000 Get as many people as you possibly can that are advocates of firearms, and then storm your local legislature.

02:45:04.000 Let him know that all of you want to have a right to self-defense.

02:45:09.000 I mean, outside of a spear gun, you're in pretty much trouble then.

02:45:12.000 Absolutely.

02:45:14.000 A three-step system.

02:45:16.000 When you're going hunting, you have to have the gun in one area, the ammunition in another area, and it's got to be out of your reach.

02:45:23.000 So it's very restrictive, and like I said, there's no concealed carry allowance here.

02:45:27.000 So if you're caught with a gun in your vehicle and it's within reach, you can get convicted of a felony, and it's just, it's absolutely unbelievable.

02:45:34.000 Yeah, I've never heard, really, I've never been to Hawaii.

02:45:37.000 I've always wanted to go.

02:45:38.000 I hope to one day take my girlfriend out there, but you know, Not knowing the area, the populace, and knowing most of the lower 48's populace, it's hard for me to comment.

02:45:51.000 But the best way to change that is with your local government.

02:45:54.000 Thankfully, it's a very small government and small state, so you don't have to go far.

02:45:59.000 It's one of the most liberal states in the United States.

02:46:01.000 The island I live on has a population of about 50,000 local residents and about 20,000 to 30,000 tourists, so luckily the crime rate is really low, but it would be nice to be able to have the option to protect your And I tell you what, if I came out there, one of the reasons I'd want to come out is actually go boar hunting.

02:46:17.000 I hear the boar hunting is fantastic.

02:46:20.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

02:46:21.000 Those boars are dangerous. 0.88

02:46:22.000 So most of the locals go with the dogs and the dogs wear them out, you know, if you can't get them with the first shot.

02:46:27.000 And we got some amazing Amazing hiking and hunting and fishing and sightseeing.

02:46:33.000 Yeah, you guys will love it.

02:46:34.000 Come out in the winter.

02:46:35.000 Yeah, humpback whales are coming through.

02:46:37.000 All right.

02:46:38.000 We definitely appreciate your call, Dan.

02:46:39.000 We're gonna move pretty quick to get to our last two callers.

02:46:41.000 Thank you.

02:46:42.000 Thanks, man.

02:46:43.000 Is that Ryan in Wyoming?

02:46:46.000 Yeah, we're here.

02:46:47.000 Okay, Ryan.

02:46:48.000 What's your question?

02:46:49.000 Hey, how's it going?

02:46:51.000 My question is, I know that you legally have to register your firearm when you purchase it from a dealer.

02:46:58.000 Do you think it's right?

02:47:00.000 Do you think I should have to do that?

02:47:01.000 Hold on.

02:47:02.000 First and foremost, in Wyoming you have to register?

02:47:07.000 Because it's not a federal requirement.

02:47:10.000 I have to do it in Colorado.

02:47:12.000 I'm calling from Wyoming.

02:47:14.000 Okay, I can't speak for law outside of the state of Florida, federal law, or the state of Texas.

02:47:20.000 However, I can tell you this.

02:47:22.000 Gun registration is not done by the federal government.

02:47:25.000 It's done by the local or state government.

02:47:27.000 So you'd have to check in with that.

02:47:29.000 Once again, rolling back to a previous question on the last call, that's something you get with your state legislature about.

02:47:36.000 There's only like five states in the country that I think of that you need to register a handgun.

02:47:42.000 I can tell you Texas definitely doesn't want one. 0.93

02:47:46.000 That form you fill out when you purchase the handgun?

02:47:49.000 You know what I'm talking about?

02:47:51.000 Is it the ATF format?

02:47:52.000 Yeah.

02:47:53.000 Okay.

02:47:53.000 Can you guys get a document cam shot?

02:47:55.000 Because actually I wanted to talk about this.

02:47:56.000 But go ahead with your question.

02:47:58.000 Yeah, this document right here basically has to be kept on file by the FFL, which is a Federally Firearms Licensed Dealer, for a period of 20 years.

02:48:08.000 If you buy more, well, they have different laws in Texas, New Mexico, California, and Arizona, thanks to Eric Holder.

02:48:17.000 But here, if you buy more than one gun, a special letter has to go to the ATF to notify them of not only you, but the weapons you purchased.

02:48:26.000 So, that's like one of the stories that you mentioned earlier, Jakari, about the individual who was being harassed for ammo?

02:48:31.000 Yes.

02:48:32.000 It was the dealer that sold him out.

02:48:34.000 No one else would have known.

02:48:35.000 Right.

02:48:35.000 So, he was suspicious, he made the phone call.

02:48:37.000 Some dealers will do that, some dealers adamantly stay away from it.

02:48:41.000 And that's something that you want to consider when you start taking your hard-earned money into a gun shop, is what kind of people are they?

02:48:47.000 Alright, did he answer your question?

02:48:49.000 Yeah, and check, I mean, check to see if you actually have to get it registered in Colorado.

02:48:54.000 I don't think you do.

02:48:56.000 I'm not certified or licensed there, so it's hard to tell.

02:48:59.000 If I don't have to get registered, it's just a good idea not to, right?

02:49:03.000 Well, it's a violation of your inalienable right.

02:49:07.000 I mean, why should you have to register?

02:49:09.000 That's the bigger question.

02:49:11.000 Yeah, I don't want to be on a list or anything because I bought a firearm that I'm, you know, my right's not supposed to be infringed upon.

02:49:18.000 Exactly.

02:49:19.000 And I mean, I, by myself, I'm a public figure in the firearms industry, so I actually... I'll do stuff just so they do notify them.

02:49:27.000 Alright, we definitely appreciate your call.

02:49:28.000 We're trying to get to our last caller.

02:49:29.000 We'll go to David in Georgia.

02:49:31.000 Quick, what is your question, sir?

02:49:34.000 Yeah, hi.

02:49:34.000 I just want to say good evening to both of you.

02:49:37.000 Good evening.

02:49:37.000 I'm a long-time listener for Scholar.

02:49:39.000 I just had a couple of questions recommending to friends and family Like, what kind of firearms they should purchase if they've never had one, or if they should get a handgun and a rifle, or what kind of weapons does Matt recommend to first-time buyers?

02:49:59.000 It's a really broad question.

02:50:01.000 Men and women are different.

02:50:02.000 You have about a minute to answer.

02:50:03.000 Ooh, okay.

02:50:05.000 This is jeopardy.

02:50:06.000 We have... Alex Trebek's going to sue us now.

02:50:09.000 Basically, comfort's a big factor.

02:50:13.000 Do not get the little cute pink gun for the wife. 0.91

02:50:15.000 They usually recoil very violently.

02:50:17.000 She'll shoot four or five rounds out of it, yell at you for it, and never shoot it again. 0.91

02:50:21.000 So she won't develop the kind of proficiency she needs with that weapon in order to repel an attack.

02:50:27.000 If it's for a lady, don't get a small gun. 1.00

02:50:30.000 Get a big gun.

02:50:30.000 Big guns absorb recoil.

02:50:32.000 That recoil is one of the main factors that intimidates them not to learn more.

02:50:37.000 So make sure she's comfortable.

02:50:38.000 When she grabs that gun and it feels good in the hand, that's the gun she needs.

02:50:43.000 Okay, real quick, home defense, what do you recommend?

02:50:46.000 Home defense.

02:50:47.000 One gun.

02:50:47.000 12 gauge.

02:50:48.000 12 gauge.

02:50:49.000 Alright, that's it for our section of the Info Wars Money Bomb.

02:50:53.000 I definitely want to thank Matt Williams for sitting in with us.

02:50:56.000 His site is gunfightersclinic.com.

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