Alex Jones Show - 20121019_Fri-3_Alex

00:00:02.000 We should learn to take care of it.

00:00:06.000 By fighting for her.

00:00:11.000 She's worth it.

00:00:15.000 And so are we.

00:00:16.000 Thank you.

00:00:46.000 Strange days have found us.

00:00:53.000 Strange days have tracked us down.

00:01:02.000 They're going to destroy.

00:01:08.000 Good evening, everybody, or...

00:01:13.000 Whatever time of day it might happen to be, wherever you are, this is the Alex Jones Radio Show, and it is my pleasure to sit in for Alex.

00:01:19.000 My name is John B. Wells.

00:01:20.000 This is not my usual gig.

00:01:21.000 Normally, you hear me on Coast to Coast AM on Saturday nights, because that's the only place in the week for somebody like me, and I can't think of a better place to be on Friday than with you.

00:01:31.000 This evening, we will discuss several things.

00:01:34.000 On the 15th of September, I mentioned that over the air to a few million of my closest friends, like yourselves, that this whole thing with the Benghazi Libya embassy attack looked really, really funny to me.

00:01:48.000 Particularly after I saw the video, which was about the most haphazard, silly thing I've ever seen. 0.81

00:01:53.000 In fact, it was so silly. 0.57

00:01:57.000 It looked like it might have even been contrived by the Government Propaganda Office, but that's probably just me looking for a conspiracy behind every blade of grass. 0.70

00:02:07.000 So we will discuss a couple of the components that have come to light which make the whole bloody thing look, well, even bloodier.

00:02:18.000 Then we will also discuss Some of the things that the life, the sea life, the animal life, is suffering in the Pacific Northwest as a result of the ongoing problem with Fukushima.

00:02:30.000 Notice first there was the hysteria, then there was the analysis, then there was the audible wondering, and then the news blackout.

00:02:41.000 Well, effective today.

00:02:45.000 This is really, really strange.

00:02:47.000 There is so much material on this.

00:02:50.000 And the fact that it is not making it into mainstream media is both pathetic and, at the same time, not the least bit surprising.

00:03:01.000 The Fukushima fire is nearly twice as big as originally reported.

00:03:04.000 That's one of them.

00:03:06.000 A nuclear engineer has said a new way to locate Fukushima molten metal means they're expecting to find this stuff very deep in the ground, unless, of course, it's just an experiment.

00:03:16.000 The nuclear-funded Obama nuclear-sponsored daily show, Nuclear's Forgotten as a Component in Energy Future.

00:03:22.000 Ah, boy.

00:03:25.000 Smoke from the Fukushima Daiichi fire visible on webcam footage.

00:03:32.000 And then, of course, there is the fire.

00:03:34.000 Over 4,000 square feet affected near reactor buildings.

00:03:39.000 And it goes on and on and on.

00:03:40.000 Okay.

00:03:41.000 Then, as the election draws near, I mean, are these exciting times, or what?

00:03:48.000 Or as the old curse went, are these not interesting times?

00:03:52.000 They're a little bit too interesting.

00:03:54.000 But unfortunately, as Firesign Theatre once said, we're all bozos on this bus, so I guess we better just strap in and roll with it, because I don't think there's much of an alternative.

00:04:04.000 Even if we could run, where would we run to?

00:04:08.000 Probably the best thing to do in this situation is run toward each other, and if we have any wagons, then prepare to circle them.

00:04:17.000 As the polls begin to shift more in Mr. Romney's favor and away from President Obama, naturally, and particularly on Infowars.com, all of these reports of threatened unrest over the possibility that the welfare components, beginning with food stamps, may be taken away, I would suggest that

00:04:45.000 Only the most feeble-minded would think that suddenly all of the aid is going to vaporize because the incumbent leaves and the new president comes in.

00:04:54.000 But alas, these are the times that we live in.

00:04:57.000 And then, I want to introduce to you a man that I've had the privilege of working with for just a few months now.

00:05:08.000 But just to give you an idea of the sorts of credentials he has, There's a 67 graduate of the U.S.

00:05:16.000 Air Force Academy, 72 graduate of the Mississippi State University, in 1982 went to the U.S.

00:05:23.000 Navy in the Department of Energy, Nuclear Materials Monitoring and Management, and in 84, Embry-Riddle Overseas University, Aerospace Structures and Power Systems Maintenance.

00:05:23.000 Air Force and U.S.

00:05:36.000 Is it alright if I read this down?

00:05:41.000 His name is Don Heckert, USAF SBO Director on the U-2, the TR-1, the SR-71, Senior Guardian and other black programs.

00:05:50.000 In fact, it's safe to say he may have a real No Kidding Skunk Works ball cap somewhere.

00:05:58.000 He's nodding, he does.

00:05:59.000 So let us just bring him on to the bridge of the Alex Jones Radio Show and we're in hour number 17 of the money bomb.

00:06:09.000 Let me tell you about the money bomb real quick.

00:06:11.000 Uh-oh.

00:06:11.000 Bomb.

00:06:12.000 NSA keyword.

00:06:13.000 Look out.

00:06:15.000 This was started by the listeners five years ago.

00:06:19.000 And it enables Alex Jones and his excellent crew of operatives to, well, for one thing, keep the operation running in the event Alright, in the likelihood that there will be an economic interruption of some kind, they're able to go with your contribution 60 days or more.

00:06:40.000 Should there be some sort of collapse, and it will financially facilitate the structure of a free-to-air broadcast, that operating capability will be funded by you.

00:06:50.000 So we're not trying to go NPR here or anything, but you talk about listener-supported media, that would be you.

00:06:57.000 If you had not responded, that'd be one thing, but you are responding.

00:07:01.000 Because you and I can agree without knowing each other all that well, that if you rely on the mainstream media to inform you, you're as well off as if you rely on the government to save you.

00:07:12.000 Meaning, you're not going to make it.

00:07:15.000 So, here he is.

00:07:17.000 Don Heckert.

00:07:17.000 Welcome.

00:07:18.000 Thank you, John.

00:07:18.000 Welcome.

00:07:19.000 And I appreciate the opportunity to talk to the folks a little bit about Alaska, which is my home, and some of the effects that Fukushima appears to Start to have on Alaska.

00:07:33.000 We'll go ahead and go right in.

00:07:34.000 We heard some, we discussed Hot Tune on another program that I was on that apparently they swam from there to here and then back and then back here again and they all measured positive for cesium.

00:07:48.000 Let me give the folks just a little bit of background.

00:07:51.000 I'm a former high school teacher, counselor.

00:07:55.000 I'm also an aviator and flew the bush for a number of years.

00:07:59.000 And I've been a gold miner and produced gold out of an active claim in an area north of Fairbanks about 80 miles that nobody can get to except by airplane.

00:08:12.000 Right.

00:08:13.000 What my interests are, I've had an interest in hunting all my life.

00:08:19.000 Originally came to Alaska the first time right after the great earthquake in 64.

00:08:25.000 And finally, it took me 11 years to get my family and myself assigned to Alaska in Fairbanks, Alaska.

00:08:32.000 We actually lived in a small town called North Pole, just across from Santa Claus House.

00:08:38.000 In the woods.

00:08:38.000 Yeah.

00:08:39.000 Yeah.

00:08:40.000 Anyway, during that time, I'm an avid hunter and outdoorsman, love the fish, and what my concern is now is

00:08:51.000 Part of my Air Force duties were to run what was called the Atomic Energy Detection System for the National Command Authority through an agency called AFTAC, AFTAC, and it's Air Force Technical Application Center, and you can look that up on the Internet very easy and look at the history of the organization.

00:09:13.000 It came with that name in 77, but it had been in existence since The mid to early forties, and it was response by the government and the Air Force, and that was the Army Air Force at that point in time, to develop scientific knowledge and monitor nuclear developments.

00:09:37.000 And I'm happy to say that agency is in place and continuously running.

00:09:43.000 And they've really done a great job.

00:09:45.000 One of these days it'll be classified enough So that everybody can see what it has done for the U.S.

00:09:52.000 and the world.

00:09:53.000 Anyway, my job in the late 70s, early 80s was to run that system for the Air Force.

00:10:01.000 It involved ground stations, hydroacoustic stations where we could detect any nuclear underground or underwater explosion.

00:10:13.000 Airborne sensors and outer space sensors so that we can take care of anything atmospheric or exo-atmospheric.

00:10:21.000 What's so interesting about it was that part of my duties were to occasionally fly sampling missions across the North Pole at 500 feet all the way to the UK and then turn around the next day and come back at 1,500 feet

00:10:40.000 And those were called background flights, and those things have happened, to my knowledge, and I left the Air Force in 1987, but up through 1987, they were done every week.

00:10:52.000 And so there's a detailed chemical radiological history of the polar region, and actually almost all over the globe, because it's very important to find out what is naturally occurring in the environment.

00:11:09.000 That operational air sampling activity is set in motion anytime we have an alert or an event, and our detectors underwater, in space, or underground, tell us that there's been a nuclear detonation.

00:11:29.000 From there, we circle the wagons, get the forces in place to sample The atmosphere at all altitudes.

00:11:38.000 Airplanes originally were the B-29.

00:11:41.000 And that, by the way, captured the first debris from the Russian test.

00:11:47.000 And they've evolved all the way through a WC-135B, which is a special Boeing 707 modified with very long-range engines and refueling capability, through a U-2, and that's My other job that I've had is flying that U-2 for, and associated with that program, for 11 years.

00:12:13.000 After hearing just the number of aircraft and the types of aircraft that you've flown, I fancy myself an aviator.

00:12:19.000 Compared to you, I'm but as much of an aviator as a kid with a Balsa winged glider that he got for 69 cents at the corner store.

00:12:26.000 Well, that's so funny, John, because I've got three grandchildren that live in Longview, Texas right now.

00:12:33.000 And what did I do except get him three rubber bands, balsa wood airplanes.

00:12:38.000 That's where it starts.

00:12:39.000 And we played with those the last two days.

00:12:41.000 Those things can be trouble.

00:12:43.000 You might wind up in the cockpit of a U-2.

00:12:44.000 Say, that's some aircraft.

00:12:46.000 It is an interesting airplane.

00:12:48.000 A lot has not been released on it yet.

00:12:51.000 And everybody says, well, gee, that's a Gary Powers 1954 design airplane.

00:12:58.000 And a lot of people don't know that it's been put back into production and improved.

00:13:03.000 Three times over its lifetime.

00:13:05.000 The last U-2 was delivered in 89 and the new engine has been put in the airplane and it's quite a fantastic performer.

00:13:19.000 It certainly outlasted the pilot when I was flying without refueling and it significantly improved the range again.

00:13:28.000 So it's an all-weather Reconnaissance airplane extraordinaire, and they're still flying.

00:13:35.000 When you were making these measurements, can you say what aircraft you were in when you were doing these low-altitude passes?

00:13:40.000 Well, the low-altitude passes were done in a WC-135B, and they use a sampling system and a detection system that in real time can locate radioactivity.

00:13:54.000 1,500 feet?

00:13:56.000 500 feet over the ice?

00:13:58.000 500 feet over the ice.

00:13:59.000 And 1,500 feet, because that's normally where the debris would be, but that airplane goes up and can be up to 38,000 feet sampling.

00:14:09.000 And were you able to detect?

00:14:13.000 Look at the measurements after they'd been taken?

00:14:15.000 You saw that data?

00:14:16.000 Oh yes, not only that, one of my duties in my The outfit that I commanded had a preliminary laboratory that we now did an analysis on the debris, both gaseous and particle, and by our detection methods we purified and then decided whether that debris warranted forwarding down to the main laboratory in California or to the other nuclear facilities in the U.S.

00:14:47.000 So, well, did you find any dangerous levels?

00:14:51.000 In other words, radiation is such a mystery to most people.

00:14:54.000 We know that it's naturally occurring.

00:14:56.000 We also know that men and some women will get in there and mess with it, make it more powerful, and then sometimes it gets loose, either through an explosion or a leak or a meltdown or something.

00:15:05.000 So, how much should we be glowing by now?

00:15:09.000 Well, let me try to give a little bit of basics without going back into my science teaching background.

00:15:17.000 Basically, radiation is naturally occurring.

00:15:20.000 That's what keeps us alive right now.

00:15:23.000 That sun out there does a really good job for us.

00:15:26.000 The amount of radiation we get helps us.

00:15:31.000 We need vitamin D from the sunlight, for instance, to keep us healthy.

00:15:35.000 You don't get enough of it, you get very sick.

00:15:37.000 In fact, that's some of the issues that the health physics people are telling us now that us old people, and I qualify as one of those.

00:15:45.000 Right behind you.

00:15:47.000 Basically need a lot of vitamin D to keep healthy and cancer-free.

00:15:52.000 Everybody's been exposed to radiation.

00:15:55.000 If you've gotten a sunburn, you've gotten a radiation burn.

00:15:58.000 Normally, the amount of radiation you get, let's just use a factor of one on the surface, is not a significant issue in your life unless you go to a sun tanning booth or your lifeguard and sit out without any UV protection for a long time.

00:16:17.000 If you live up in Denver, believe it or not, your radiation levels are higher.

00:16:22.000 And that's because there's less of the atmosphere screening that radiation out.

00:16:27.000 If you go higher still and you're flying in your 747 or 737 or your A310 Airbus, you get normally about 10 times more radiation than you would if you were sitting on the ground.

00:16:43.000 If you go up to a higher altitude where the SR-71 and U-2 fly, it's 100 times more.

00:16:52.000 And if you get into outer space, there's no shielding at all.

00:16:56.000 And I'm sure everybody has probably seen a news article about the solar flares that are happening and how the people in the space station have a hiding place that they can get to that's super shielded, hopefully to reduce their exposure to radiation.

00:17:12.000 But they also have a parked Capsule there, so if they need to abandon it, they can get out of there quick and get safe.

00:17:20.000 A lot of times I'll get an email going, X class solar flares coming, great big coronal mass ejection happening and all that.

00:17:27.000 So these really are a source of concern.

00:17:29.000 They are not only a source of concern, but a source of an intense study because of the possible health effects and probably more important, the electrical grid effects that it'll have on On our electrical system and power production, obviously, in the U.S.

00:17:48.000 Yeah, the grid was taken down in the 70s by a big flare.

00:17:51.000 Yes, and that was a fairly, when I say localized, meaning, you know, maybe a 300-mile diameter circle hit, got hit pretty hard by one of those flares and, you know, the coronal ejection.

00:18:06.000 What is my concern right now, and I'll delve into that right away, is that

00:18:14.000 Part of my training was response as a senior Air Force officer to nuclear disasters, be them an accidental discharge of a bomber someplace or dropping the bombs, an explosion in a silo where the missile warhead was located and went through a fire, or a production plant that goes bad.

00:18:38.000 Well, the issue there is that It's my belief at this point in time that we're really ill prepared for the possibility of an electrical interruption.

00:18:54.000 Most of those power plants in my day were required to keep no more than about two weeks of electrical power generation integral to their facility that was protected.

00:19:06.000 And I used to live on Kodiak Island when I was teaching school.

00:19:11.000 The weather occasionally would make it 10 days between the time that we could get either medevac or mail in or a boat into our area.

00:19:22.000 And so a lot of people in Alaska are very, very concerned that if the electrical grid goes down, there's factors like in the housing units of the base that I live on, The water in the toilets will be frozen at about the six hour point and start to freeze.

00:19:45.000 So there's total evacuation plans for the non-essential personnel due to environmental conditions that are in place.

00:19:55.000 I don't see that same planning and support being made in our major cities and it just takes One power interruption like we saw due to that terrible natural disaster in Japan, the Fukushima-like event, to really cause a lot of economic and cancer problems, death and destruction in an area.

00:20:24.000 And if we ever do get hit by one of these major solar flares, and it would have to be a very major one, it could take out a number of power production facilities for nuclear plants and I'm not sure that a Fukushima type disaster would not happen.

00:20:45.000 The planning that we had in those courses was that we all believe that within a week we could get on site no matter how bad the earthquake or the hurricane or whatever event was causing that and if you look at a major hurricane You can see that sometimes it takes two, three, four days to get to survivors.

00:21:07.000 And so at the time, that EM pulse was not thought to be that great of an issue.

00:21:15.000 As science has progressed, we've learned that it could be a big issue.

00:21:20.000 And that normally once every 100 to 120 years, we have one of these big events.

00:21:26.000 And the one you described earlier in Canada was not a big event.

00:21:31.000 It was a medium-sized event.

00:21:33.000 All right, so this is stuff that we cannot control, and then of course, you know, I'm all over the place here, but I mentioned sometime earlier, in fact it was the last time I was on Alex Jones Radio Show, that are we, so why is the world not running to Japan to help them, number one, and Should we feel some guilt over the fact that our desire for things, cars, stereos, Walkman, that's all, I just dated myself.

00:22:03.000 Should we feel some guilt over the fact that it's like, look, you know, you can become rich and profit, ah, you know, Empire of Japan all over again, only this time instead of military it'll be financial.

00:22:13.000 We will buy your products, because America's largely become a nation of consumers, certainly to a measurable degree, and a pretty good sized one.

00:22:20.000 So, should we feel guilt over the fact that our desires for these material things caused them to produce, to construct 50 or 52 nuclear power plants on that tiny little island compared to the rest of the world in an area known for earthquakes and tsunamis?

00:22:38.000 Okay, well, you're probably not going to like my response.

00:22:44.000 First of all, I'm a supporter of nuclear power.

00:22:47.000 Okay.

00:22:48.000 I really think it's the wave of the future.

00:22:51.000 And possibly fuel cell technology and hydrogen is a much better wave.

00:22:56.000 But you're going to need a nuclear capability to generate that kind of level of power to produce your hydrogen.

00:23:03.000 And we can talk more at a later date about hydrogen airplanes and nuclear powered airplanes and all of those really strange things.

00:23:11.000 Oh boy!

00:23:12.000 The interesting part of this And why I support nuclear, you have what we call short period and long period events.

00:23:24.000 A short period event occurs regularly and we all use gasoline.

00:23:29.000 I'm sure that every state within the last month has had a fuel truck or a tanker or a gas station have a major fire and there's probably two or three deaths out of that.

00:23:43.000 The nuclear plant, however, is a long period event, and that is normally it was designed so that it could continue to run through earthquakes and storms and even terrorist protection for the most part.

00:24:00.000 But what we're finding is that as the world progresses, the ability of individuals to interrupt things has gotten greater and greater and greater.

00:24:11.000 And where we thought the threshold was, you know, 20 years ago, or 25 years ago, when I was in that business directly, has now changed.

00:24:21.000 You watch armored vehicles be pierced, or ambassadors be killed, when he was in a pretty protected environment.

00:24:30.000 But you get enough people and enough destructive power, and you can really cause a problem.

00:24:36.000 And that's part of my concern about being prepared From a national standpoint.

00:24:42.000 Let me get a little more specific about my Alaska experiences.

00:24:46.000 I mentioned earlier that I was assistant guide.

00:24:48.000 I have a son that is a full-fledged guide.

00:24:52.000 I used to fly people in to hunt and fish.

00:24:56.000 And so I'm really a consumer of wildlife and fish.

00:25:02.000 A lot of the people, especially the natives in Alaska, have what's called a subsistence living style.

00:25:09.000 Where they count on the salmon, and the moose, and the caribou, and the bear, and all of those things that are on land or sea, you know, the clams, the different sea life, the different varieties of fish, form the basis of their diets.

00:25:29.000 What my concern is, is that right after Fukushima, and again you've got to look at my background, When a nuclear test or went off in Russia or China, part of my duties were to get an airplane to that debris and sample it to try to gather the intelligence out of that.

00:25:52.000 Well, as a fact, we learned very quickly since 1945 where those outflows or flow patterns go.

00:26:03.000 And for instance, in Alaska's case, they start over

00:26:08.000 from Japan over all those test sites either in China or Russia and they come out in a two-pronged area one directly over Kodiak Island the other over Point Barrow and again these are a little bit variable due to weathers and fronts and so forth but the majority of time those outflows come there so anything that happened over Fukushima several probably two days later and you remember in World War II

00:26:37.000 Japanese had rice paper balloons that they put incendiary devices on and floated them over and tried to start forest fires in the Pacific Northwest. 0.99

00:26:47.000 Oh yeah.

00:26:48.000 Okay, well that nuclear debris, whether it's a bomb or comes from a nuclear reactor, is an outflow and it comes over that area.

00:27:00.000 We basically did a lot of research in the early 80s and 90s to try to define those trajectories and we now know those we have less information because of the size of the ocean it's basically a three times more water than there is land sure and there's a lot less movement on water than there is on land and so the amount

00:27:27.000 of trajectories in the water are not known as well, but because of our submarine fleet, I know that the Navy has that information.

00:27:37.000 Now my concern is, and this is strictly as a hunter, fisherman, gatherer, subsistence guy, I'm retired and I go down to dig clams.

00:27:49.000 I've dug clams for years and years and years as an Alaska resident.

00:27:54.000 Normally I'm allowed to get 40 at a time.

00:27:57.000 I went out twice in two months, once in April, once in May, and got two clams one time, and three another time, and they were really juvenile.

00:28:11.000 And I called up Fish and Game and said, gee, I'm concerned something has happened to our clam population on the Kenai Peninsula where we were fishing.

00:28:21.000 That concerned me.

00:28:22.000 A little later we have numerous reports of our Sea life, particularly the larger mammals, having lesions and scars and they can't define why they have these huge sores on them.

00:28:37.000 And I'm not sure that there's been a conclusive report on that yet.

00:28:42.000 That's followed by the major tourist activity in the Kenai Peninsula during the summer is king fishing.

00:28:50.000 World record salmon are pulled out of that river and it is really an economic boon to that Kenai Peninsula in the local area.

00:29:00.000 They canceled the season this year halfway through because the return didn't come back in the numbers that were required to even sustain the population.

00:29:10.000 And so, those things put together caused our Senators, Senator Baggage and Murkowski, to go forward and say, We're now seeing this debris from Fukushima starting to wash up on our shores in Alaska.

00:29:29.000 And please, let's sample this.

00:29:31.000 Let's look at it and see if it presents a danger to either the marine life or to the people living on the coast.

00:29:41.000 And I left Alaska to come down to Texas about 40 days ago.

00:29:47.000 At that time, there was a discussion that they'd granted $100,000 for testing for the whole state.

00:29:53.000 $100,000.

00:29:54.000 And that'll pay for one airplane for a few days.

00:29:58.000 Or one boat for a month.

00:30:02.000 Oh boy.

00:30:02.000 I'll tell you what.

00:30:04.000 Alex Jones, Radio Show Command, would we like to take a little break now?

00:30:08.000 Because if we would, we can certainly do that.

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00:30:14.000 This is an opportunity to do some good for yourself.

00:30:19.000 Call 877-789... Wait a minute.

00:30:22.000 Is this the right number?

00:30:25.000 Hold on.

00:30:26.000 Hold on, I've got it here somewhere.

00:30:29.000 I'll find it anyway.

00:30:31.000 What's that?

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00:30:36.000 253-3139.

00:30:38.000 Okay, that's all right.

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00:31:05.000 This will ensure that no matter what happens, I mean, other than the whole plan of being obliterated, that Alex Jones and his crew will be able to carry on, regardless of what happens in the event of a bank holiday or anything else like that.

00:31:21.000 I want to mention again, they have in the works a free-to-air satellite broadcast, and their operational capability could be extended as much as 60 days, possibly more, with your help.

00:31:34.000 We're down to about 16 hours and change here, so call at 888-253-3139.

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00:31:48.000 It all adds up.

00:31:50.000 Now, Control, did you tell me we can take a break now?

00:31:52.000 Because if we can, we shall.

00:31:56.000 Alright.

00:31:58.000 Alright, now when we come back, let's talk about some preparedness.

00:32:02.000 Let's talk about some equipment we can have on hand to tilt the field in our favor just a little bit.

00:32:07.000 And then, Let's talk about arms dealing and Ambassador Chris Stevens.

00:32:14.000 Then, seg into potential civil unrest.

00:32:20.000 We don't do fluff here.

00:32:21.000 This is the Alex Jones Radio Show.

00:32:24.000 ...into Fukushima, because on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com we have links to mainstream news articles today, where Fukushima is still melting down.

00:32:35.000 Five of the six giant reactors have totally exploded and melted down, and in the last few weeks they admit that Three days into Fukushima, happened on a Friday, by Monday, they knew that three of the reactors, later it was all five of the six, had exploded.

00:32:52.000 I knew on that Monday morning when I watched the reactor explode, That it was a complete and total meltdown and a meltdown explosion.

00:33:02.000 And then I interviewed top nuclear physicists who'd been in Japan and who had gotten samples.

00:33:07.000 Of course, Western governments all knew what the mushroom cloud meant, but it showed that fission had taken place.

00:33:13.000 That a Chernobyl-type explosion, much bigger than Chernobyl, had taken place.

00:33:17.000 That was Reactor 3, with uranium and super-deadly plutonium.

00:33:23.000 And it turned out that they had 500,000 spent fuel rods.

00:33:27.000 Well, it was a total of 614,000.

00:33:32.000 But on that particular reactor, the majority of them, 500 plus thousand, were stored on the roof and in holding tanks and were spewed into the air.

00:33:45.000 Now, a couple months into this, how did the EPA respond?

00:33:49.000 And you can go to the articles on our sites and link through the EPA.

00:33:52.000 They came out and said, we're going to raise radioactive isotopes in the dozens of types that are in the air blowing across the Pacific onto the U.S.

00:34:00.000 We're going to raise the isotopes levels.

00:34:02.000 That's just one of many explosions.

00:34:04.000 We're going to raise it from the levels that we say were safe to 1,000 times what they previously were with some isotopes to 25,000 with others and some isotopes 100,000 times what they previously said was safe.

00:34:20.000 And it ran the gamut from 1,000 times, 3,000 times to 100,000 times with actual links to the EPA.

00:34:28.000 And the EPA came out and said, hey, we're going to have a public comment period.

00:34:33.000 We're still going to do what we want, kind of like the super Congress controls the power of the purse now, not the general Congress.

00:34:39.000 And if Congress doesn't vote the way they want, the super Congress just does it anyways. 0.92

00:34:43.000 It's the same thing with the EPA.

00:34:45.000 Oh, there's a quiet comment period where you can email us.

00:34:48.000 We're going to raise the level of radiation 1,000 to 100,000 times what's safe.

00:34:53.000 But we'll take your comment.

00:34:54.000 And of course, the vast majority of comments by scientists and others were, this is a horrible idea.

00:34:59.000 Radiation is very bad for you.

00:35:00.000 And they just said, we don't care.

00:35:01.000 And they did raise it a few months ago.

00:35:03.000 After a month-long comment period.

00:35:05.000 Now, the Prime Minister of Japan has had to resign over this.

00:35:09.000 Most of the other ministers have.

00:35:10.000 They've got radiation sickness.

00:35:12.000 People are dying.

00:35:13.000 They've tried to keep it quiet.

00:35:15.000 But I've even been in hotel rooms and watched Japanese TV and English on it where they are now admitting it.

00:35:20.000 I was out in LA about a month ago and was shocked to see them admitting what we were getting from reporters months before.

00:35:25.000 So it's now come out.

00:35:27.000 But the only place it hasn't come out is here in the US.

00:35:30.000 A month into this, they were having levels 25, 30, 40, 50, depending on what state, as far away as Vermont.

00:35:37.000 On the other side, you know, of North America, from Japan, over across the Pacific, in milk, in produce.

00:35:45.000 When they had Chernobyl in 1986, for six months, all over Europe, where the plume hit, from northern to western to eastern to southern, They brought food in from other continents, frozen.

00:35:58.000 They brought frozen powdered milk in.

00:36:00.000 No one was allowed to eat the cows.

00:36:02.000 No one was allowed to eat the milk where it aggregates and builds up.

00:36:06.000 Bioaccumulates is the proper term. 0.92

00:36:08.000 No one was allowed to eat it or touch it.

00:36:13.000 And they estimate the UN does over a million deaths from cancer.

00:36:16.000 Here, the Japanese got caught just mislabeling stuff as foreign to let folks eat it and turned out it was very radioactive.

00:36:25.000 Then, expanding on that, I just can't believe this is happening.

00:36:32.000 It comes in the United States and they just raise the level and say it's safe.

00:36:36.000 The elite have gone crazy.

00:36:38.000 They're on such power trips, they're fiddling while Rome burns like Nero.

00:36:42.000 They think they're invincible.

00:36:46.000 All right, let's go ahead and get into some other important news dealing with brainwashing.

00:36:51.000 All right.

00:38:21.000 John B. Wells sitting in for Alex at this moment.

00:38:24.000 And again, let me just remind you, I got the number correct this time.

00:38:26.000 I don't know, these computers.

00:38:28.000 Ever since I started into this talking on the Alex Jones Radio Show and doing Coast to Coast AM, I have just unending little computer anomalies, including the old disappearing page.

00:38:38.000 Of course, that could be just user error.

00:38:40.000 Anyway, the correct number is 888-253-3139.

00:38:43.000 Just make a little contribution.

00:38:45.000 You'll be glad you did, because if there's If there's one of two things that need to remain on the air, I won't mention the other one because it's his show.

00:38:54.000 And that would be the Alex Jones Radio Show and also Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:39:02.000 Make a visit to the Infowars store.

00:39:03.000 There's a lot of very cool stuff there that will help you sustain yourself here on an increasingly dangerous planet Earth.

00:39:11.000 Back with Don Heckert here.

00:39:14.000 Is there, okay, alpha radiation you can block with a sheet of paper, beta radiation you need about a foot of something, but gamma radiation is bad news.

00:39:21.000 Yeah, gamma radiation is bad news.

00:39:23.000 A piece of tinfoil actually will stop the beta, and without going into any technical details, that probably leads us to the survival issues.

00:39:33.000 And how does one protect ourselves?

00:39:35.000 Well, it's in the nuts.

00:39:36.000 It's in the fish.

00:39:37.000 Yes.

00:39:38.000 You're going to need to peel everything if the stuff gets on your tomatoes.

00:39:41.000 Yes.

00:39:41.000 You can't eat the whole thing.

00:39:43.000 You need to wash it.

00:39:44.000 So what do you do?

00:39:45.000 What kind of gear do you pack?

00:39:46.000 You carry a Geiger counter where you go.

00:39:47.000 Yeah, I do.

00:39:48.000 Because?

00:39:49.000 Because of the training I've received.

00:39:52.000 And my concern that if something really drastic did happen, I'd sure like to protect my family and those people around me and save them.

00:40:04.000 I mentioned that I used to get this wonderful tea out of Japan.

00:40:08.000 And, uh, oh, very beautiful tea.

00:40:10.000 And I'd have a little meditational thing in the morning, drink tea, you know, kind of collect my thoughts for the day around 630, 645, and then roll into it.

00:40:17.000 And I thought, say, I wonder.

00:40:19.000 So I pulled out my Geiger counter, checked the background, showed nothing, and then I waved it around by the little powdered tea that I just put in a cup.

00:40:32.000 And it immediately spiked up to 2.5.

00:40:34.000 Okay.

00:40:35.000 This is not good, is it?

00:40:37.000 Well, it's above background.

00:40:39.000 Yes.

00:40:39.000 And so, let me explain really quickly.

00:40:42.000 Most of the scales go up by tens.

00:40:46.000 And that's called a logarithmic scale.

00:40:49.000 And, like I said, if you're flying high altitude in a 747 going to Australia, you're probably getting 10 to 15 times the normal radiation you would If you were out on a California beach.

00:41:03.000 So if you're carrying this thing with you, you've got it turned on, you're going to see it spike.

00:41:07.000 Yes.

00:41:07.000 When you're at altitude.

00:41:08.000 But I'm sure TSA is really going to wonder what's going on there.

00:41:12.000 Yeah.

00:41:13.000 But, so it, the people, and we used to fly our missions, were very long missions, and folks like flight attendants or pilots of long duration, high flying jetliners, Are getting exposed and the bottom line is that they're not showing a really large increase that is even statistically significant in their cancer rates.

00:41:42.000 And so the conclusion is at this point that that's not really an issue.

00:41:48.000 Right.

00:41:49.000 Where it became an issue for airliners was when there was atmospheric testing going on.

00:41:55.000 And I can give you examples when I was a high flyer.

00:41:59.000 We put on the gear to test it or we could warn the Concorde when it was flying because it was a high altitude airplane.

00:42:11.000 We knew where the debris was from the most recent atmospheric test and so we guided them around it.

00:42:18.000 That's a very positive thing that the National Command Authority and The government did for each other.

00:42:25.000 And by the way, I have to thank the English people.

00:42:29.000 They've been our allies and shared so much with us.

00:42:33.000 And I think we will find in the coming years that in the Middle East, England is a real strong, staunch ally.

00:42:43.000 Now, the reason I say that is that two of my assignments in the uh... early to mid eighties were either in europe or the middle east and uh... so i've i've had a chance to literally to see the holy lions and egypt and all of those other countries from above.

00:43:07.000 Seen the headwaters of the Nile and all that.

00:43:09.000 All of that and so it it's really quite an interesting experience and uh... one of these days we'll discuss what a neat impression one gets when you're up that high.

00:43:21.000 But from a radiological standpoint, the debris at high altitude goes very quickly around the world.

00:43:29.000 The debris at high altitude lingers for a very long time.

00:43:35.000 And so it wasn't uncommon when I was flying the U-2 to see a significant rise on my instrumentation in the airplane from an event that happened 6, 8, 10 months ago.

00:43:50.000 Really?

00:43:51.000 Now, the remainder, the lower levels of the atmosphere are cleansed by the water droplets and clouds and the rainfall, or the snow, if you're in a colder climate, that basically leaches that out of the atmosphere and deposits that on the ground.

00:44:09.000 Where the stuff has grown that we eat.

00:44:11.000 Yes.

00:44:12.000 Okay.

00:44:12.000 Right.

00:44:13.000 And so, what you described, John, If it was a scale on one to ten and it went up to two and a half, that's still almost in a background level.

00:44:24.000 I think we can go out and probably go down and find a coffee machine and put it next to it.

00:44:30.000 It might read three, and then the can of raviola might be four, and then back the lettuce is one.

00:44:38.000 And so, those levels aren't going to be harmful to you.

00:44:43.000 But now let me divert and say, Part of the training I got as a combat crew member in Strategic Air Command, and it's now Air Combat Command, was global survival for its pilots and crew members after the balloon went up if we fought a nuclear war.

00:45:00.000 And we were basically taught to hide out for about ten days, because at the end of the tenth day, all of what are called short-lived nuclides, or isotopes, that are really going to harm you and be very radioactive, Had decayed down to the point that it was safe to move around.

00:45:21.000 You would, at that point, be no more exposed than somebody working as a nurse in an x-ray room or somebody in a nuclear power plant that does general maintenance.

00:45:33.000 And so it's at a safe level.

00:45:35.000 The issues then become, do you ingest the radioactive material?

00:45:41.000 And you can do that in several forms.

00:45:44.000 Most of you recognize what a Coleman lantern is, from the old days before LEDs.

00:45:50.000 Oh yeah.

00:45:51.000 The material that makes that mantle glow is called thorium, and it's radioactive.

00:45:57.000 It is a strong alpha emitter, and so when you actually burn that mantle to first get it ready to run the lantern, it puts off a fairly significant amount of radioactivity.

00:46:12.000 And this would be alpha particles?

00:46:14.000 This is the alpha particles.

00:46:16.000 And you can stop those again with a sheet of printer paper.

00:46:20.000 But if you inhale them?

00:46:21.000 But if you inhale them, quite another story.

00:46:24.000 They reside in the moisture in the tissues in the lungs and it's every bit equal to or worse than smoking.

00:46:34.000 And so the people that regulate radiation, Looked at those mantles and say, well, gee, how many of these mantles is a normal adult going to light off in their lifetime?

00:46:47.000 And they came up, I believe, with the number somewhere around six to eight.

00:46:50.000 And they said, well, gee, comparatively, the odds of increasing your cancer risk are very, very, very remote, as long as you don't inhale the fumes that are coming directly off that mantle when it's burning.

00:47:05.000 Suppose you were to eat a big chunk of bluefin tuna.

00:47:08.000 That had trace elements of cesium in it.

00:47:11.000 Okay.

00:47:11.000 Is that a different deal?

00:47:12.000 That is a totally different deal.

00:47:14.000 And how serious is that?

00:47:15.000 Well, it depends on how much cesium, you know, how much is in the fish and how much you ate.

00:47:20.000 Yeah.

00:47:21.000 And we talk about cesium, we talk about strontium, and to give you an example, when I was growing up, everybody's probably heard of Hanford.

00:47:32.000 I lived in Spokane, Washington.

00:47:34.000 Hanford, Washington is west about 150 miles.

00:47:38.000 There were times when they were producing nuclear fuel that radioactivity would be released and escaped and it would fall on the pasture lands around Spokane and their EPA at the time would, or the Nuclear Regulatory Commission would be probably a better description, would say, gee, the fallout level is so high From those, the production at Hanford that we don't want you drinking the milk.

00:48:08.000 And I can remember several times as a youngster not being able to drink milk because there was an alert on the milk and it wasn't safe to drink.

00:48:15.000 Okay.

00:48:18.000 I'm still kicking at 67.

00:48:19.000 Gotcha.

00:48:20.000 Okay.

00:48:21.000 So if, if I had drunk that, I would say the odds were that I wouldn't have had been affected.

00:48:29.000 But if you look at a thousand kids, Probably there'd be one extra cancer death due to that strontium-90 or the cesium or whatever is precipitated by the rainfall down to the passenger or to the pastor.

00:48:46.000 The thing that confused me a little bit is that when the Chernobyl incident occurred back in the 80s, there were supposed to be, it was reported that there were a lot of extra deaths and along the Pacific Northwest there were supposed to be 14,000 Extra death.

00:49:00.000 They call them extra deaths.

00:49:02.000 And then it went up to like 24,000.

00:49:04.000 So I'm trying to draw... I'm trying to draw some sort of a conclusion between the... I mean, radiation is radiation no matter what.

00:49:13.000 But if you're in a high-flying airplane and you get a dose, well, I guess it's because you eventually land.

00:49:19.000 It's your prolonged exposure to it that's the problem.

00:49:22.000 So if you have it in your water and you have a little in your air and then you have some in the nuts that you're eating, Well, this begins to add up.

00:49:29.000 It accumulates, but let's talk a little bit about Chernobyl and the effects of Chernobyl.

00:49:37.000 If you don't take precautions like washing, peeling, you know, washing your fruit, peeling the fruit, peeling the potatoes, and you know, guarding against sources that ingest a lot of that radiation and then naturally it Becomes part of the food product.

00:49:59.000 If you take those precautions, you're safe.

00:50:01.000 Now, you mentioned 24,000 people.

00:50:05.000 I bet you there were 24 million people that in the Western states and 24,000 compared to 24 millions.

00:50:14.000 You know, the odds are very low.

00:50:17.000 Yeah.

00:50:17.000 That it is going to affect you.

00:50:19.000 Now, if you're the affected one, you're really not happy camper about it.

00:50:22.000 Yeah, and most of those extra deaths were people one year or younger.

00:50:25.000 Yes.

00:50:26.000 So, there is an impact and it's like everything else.

00:50:32.000 We continue to burn petroleum in our cars.

00:50:35.000 You filled up this morning.

00:50:37.000 Yeah.

00:50:37.000 But, and I don't give it a second thought as I sniff some of that benzene coming off and I Go ahead and travel in my automobile, which is a far more higher risk than the explosion out of the gasoline in the tank.

00:50:53.000 Right.

00:50:54.000 And so, it's a cost-benefit kind of economic decision with radiation.

00:51:03.000 Now, again, where I'm concerned is that in the case that I mentioned earlier, the SST flying, they used, by the way, they flew out of Lebanon.

00:51:15.000 And Beirut used to be the most beautiful city that you can believe.

00:51:19.000 It was really the Paris of the Middle East, and that's why they had these high-speed supersonic passenger jets going in and out.

00:51:29.000 But we would have to alert them if there was an increased exposure, and they obviously wanted to avoid that.

00:51:38.000 That's why, in 1963, President Kennedy imposed Along with Russia's agreement and all the nuclear powers, a limited test ban treaty that says, hey, we aren't going to do it atmospheric-wise.

00:51:52.000 And that's why we're upset when a Korea or an India or a Pakistan or possibly an Iran sets off one of these, because we know the harmful effects. 0.99

00:52:06.000 Part of my career, I had the privilege of working with two navigators That had actually dropped nuclear weapons for tests on the United States at the Nevada Proving Grounds.

00:52:18.000 And believe it or not, both of those gentlemen were in the nuclear monitoring prevention business.

00:52:26.000 Because they knew and saw what would happen with nuclear weapons.

00:52:33.000 Okay.

00:52:34.000 Speaking of nuclear weapons in the Middle East, how do you figure that bomb with Iran's coming along? 0.96

00:52:41.000 Not good.

00:52:42.000 No.

00:52:42.000 Not good at all.

00:52:44.000 My concern is, and again let me give you a little bit of background, that second assignment in the Middle East was about 85 miles from Beirut.

00:52:55.000 And our job was to monitor the peace accords from the 74th Egyptian-Iraqi-Syrian war.

00:53:06.000 And we did that.

00:53:07.000 But during that period of time, Where I was commander, we basically had hijackings take place.

00:53:18.000 And I want to speak to this in two areas.

00:53:22.000 One, from the standpoint of intelligence and national reporting and the responses to that.

00:53:30.000 And then the other about a kind of a mentality in the Middle East about the religious beliefs when they go extreme, just like ours Go extreme?

00:53:41.000 Yep.

00:53:42.000 And it isn't safe for anybody.

00:53:45.000 I am concerned that Iraq is moving, or pardon me, Iran is moving very quickly towards their goal of having nuclear weapons, and they've stated so clearly that they're going to use them. 0.90

00:54:02.000 And I hope our President, which he has, has stated very, very, very clearly that they're not going to allow that to happen.

00:54:10.000 I'm not sure in the light of most recent political reporting and events whether I have confidence in that anymore, but it is a goal that we all must pursue.

00:54:21.000 Now let me go back to, we started talking about one other thing and I want to talk about environmental preparedness.

00:54:29.000 Yes.

00:54:30.000 I used to live basically 28 miles south of Fairbanks, Alaska in a place called North Pole.

00:54:38.000 And that's just the name of the city.

00:54:40.000 That's where all the post office was for the kids to send their Santa Claus letters in.

00:54:45.000 Yeah.

00:54:46.000 Well, during the wintertime, when it's 30 or 40 below, and after about 10 o'clock at night during those years, there weren't a whole lot of cars on the road.

00:54:59.000 And the cars of that day were not as reliable.

00:55:02.000 And so if I were going to take my family into town to shop in the afternoon, I would make sure that I had sleeping bags for all of them, that I had a heat source, like a camp stove, water, because we'd need water, and some kind of communications.

00:55:19.000 This is way before cell phones, and so we had VHF aircraft radios or CB radios, and you planned on your car braking knowing that if after two hours you're in a tremendously difficult Arctic survival situation.

00:55:38.000 Well, our climates and our situation is totally different when we're on a road system, and we have a lot of neighbors and emergency response teams here.

00:55:50.000 The problem is that I see, and I just came down again a short time ago from Alaska, is that there are so many people, and I watch how the highways are clogged in Dallas, and I have real withdrawal problems.

00:56:08.000 Thinking about if we did have an environmental disaster, where we had to get the folks out of Dallas, it wouldn't be a pretty situation.

00:56:20.000 And then where would they go?

00:56:22.000 And so that means that we all are probably going to have to hunker down.

00:56:27.000 And so in Alaska, I'm prepared for at least 60 days of independence.

00:56:33.000 I have a water purification system.

00:56:35.000 I store 20 gallons of water.

00:56:39.000 At the first hint of power going out, I've got a generator that I can hook in and I fill the bathtub up with water and everybody says, well, gee, that's really, uh, you're strange.

00:56:51.000 But if you don't take those precautions and you don't have it, you can't get it.

00:56:56.000 And so we pack and separate clothing and put it in a location away from a potential fire.

00:57:04.000 Because if you run out in your nightgown at 20 below, Got a problem.

00:57:08.000 We've got frostbite that we don't want.

00:57:12.000 And then we have enough food and particularly water for the short term to stay healthy.

00:57:21.000 And then all of a sudden you can't do things like use your flush toilet.

00:57:26.000 That water is better drank if it's in the tank up above and hasn't been through the bowl.

00:57:31.000 Right.

00:57:31.000 But then the solution that Sounds gross, but you get one of those nice garbage bags, plastic and black and very strong, and you use that for your toilet.

00:57:42.000 And you can use your toilet, you know, bowl.

00:57:45.000 Until the bag is full.

00:57:46.000 Until the bag is full, and then you tie it up and hope it doesn't leak and run with it.

00:57:50.000 Put a clothespin on your nose and carry it outside.

00:57:52.000 The other thing is heat, you know.

00:57:56.000 In Alaska, we have to have a heat source. 0.86

00:57:58.000 And so there's a secondary.

00:58:00.000 If you have oil heat, you will automatically have either catalytic heater or a fireplace.

00:58:06.000 Fireplaces aren't very efficient, but they work beautifully down in the lower 48.

00:58:12.000 Things like having enough fuel.

00:58:15.000 You know, a gas can nowadays for five gallons of gas cost you 10 bucks and to fill it's 25.

00:58:22.000 But if you put that $100 away, You're not going to have to run down to the gas station.

00:58:29.000 It is also a source of communications and heat, you know, radio that you can listen to.

00:58:34.000 And once things settle down, it's transportation away from where you want to get away.

00:58:39.000 So we store fuel in gas cans, and what we do is once a year cycle it through to make sure that we utilize it and put fresh in.

00:58:51.000 And keeping in mind that not everybody is going to be as prepared, When it comes to those things that you think might be important for your survival, nobody really needs to know where your stuff is except for you.

00:59:03.000 And you kind of keep your head down.

00:59:05.000 Don't be burning the house full of lights if the rest of the neighborhood is dark. 0.94

00:59:08.000 I mean, this sounds rudimentary and almost moronic, but it's true.

00:59:12.000 Don't attract attention to yourself. 0.93

00:59:14.000 Well, that's it.

00:59:15.000 And then you obviously need protection for your family.

00:59:18.000 And probably more important and significant is a plan where you're going to rally You know, you've all been through fire drills and they say, hey, we have an assembly point.

00:59:28.000 We're going to count noses and make sure everybody got out at this point, you know, upwind from where the fire is so that you're not in danger.

00:59:37.000 Well, the same thing holds true for a family.

00:59:40.000 And I've got family, two families in Alaska still, one in Longview, Texas, another one at Norfolk Naval Air Station.

00:59:50.000 And we have discussed and have a written plan It says this is how we're going to get in contact with each other and if we haven't done so within this period of time then I'll be concerned and send out search parties or help.

01:00:07.000 You know we've lived such a really such a good life in the United States for so many years thanks in no small part to United States Strategic Defense entities.

01:00:19.000 And the motto was peace is our profession and that's peace through strength.

01:00:24.000 Yes.

01:00:25.000 We seem to, let's go ahead and go out on the clothesline here.

01:00:29.000 We can finish up with radiation rather quickly.

01:00:35.000 So the reason that you carry a counter with a Geiger counter with you is that you look at it every once in a while and you know what the backgrounds are.

01:00:44.000 But if these background levels start looking not like the normal background levels that you're getting, well then what do you do?

01:00:50.000 You tune in your radio and go, well what, did something happen somewhere or something?

01:00:53.000 Why is this thing going up?

01:00:54.000 So you tap it and you go, no, there's nothing wrong with it.

01:00:57.000 Alright, let's say that you are just a regular guy, and you've got in your little kid bag a flashlight, your old shooting iron, or whatever it is you carry in your bag, whatever.

01:01:04.000 And you look at this thing and you see it going up.

01:01:06.000 What's the very next thing that you do?

01:01:08.000 Okay, the first thing is what is the rate of increase?

01:01:12.000 Okay, if I've prepared correctly, I am going to close off my house, go into an inner room, tape the door shut, and have enough supply in there to hopefully wait out at least 48 hours.

01:01:28.000 And if necessary, in the absolute worst case, that 10-day I talked about.

01:01:33.000 And I stay there protected.

01:01:36.000 At the end of 10 days, I know it's safe to go outside.

01:01:39.000 Now, if it's biological, you know, all bets are off.

01:01:43.000 Hopefully your immune system is really good.

01:01:47.000 Or you've got your little white suit handy.

01:01:50.000 Now, if it's chemical, during that period of time, chemical agents normally disperse very quickly.

01:01:57.000 If it's a powdered form, it's going to wash away.

01:02:00.000 And so we want to stay clean.

01:02:02.000 And if any of the folks had experience in chem suits or, you know, booties, you see they wear booties.

01:02:10.000 They throw that stuff away, like raincoats and rain pants, and then wash down.

01:02:16.000 And that normally will take care of that kind of agent. 0.92

01:02:22.000 You don't strike me as any kind of an alarmist, but I got the feeling over our conversations over the last several days that, um, and going back to what I said about we've lived so well for so long here, the odds almost compelled that an incident will occur at some point.

01:02:37.000 Well, I, I am, forgive me, very pessimistic.

01:02:41.000 I was in the nuclear business for a long time, you know, two time, uh, two tour in Vietnam kind of guy.

01:02:49.000 And, uh, I've seen the worst of the worst.

01:02:54.000 We have the best of the best right now, regardless of your political beliefs.

01:03:00.000 And what I'm concerned with is that I see a rate of change that isn't right.

01:03:08.000 The speed of problems coming up and the magnitude of those problems is just gigantic.

01:03:16.000 And I personally am telling my family members Prepare.

01:03:23.000 Get a food supply in.

01:03:25.000 Get a water supply in.

01:03:27.000 Dust off your plan.

01:03:29.000 Go down and spend $45 for your little UHF radios so that you can talk to each other.

01:03:35.000 And just throw them in the glove box of the car so that when the cell phone net goes out... Which it will.

01:03:41.000 Which it will.

01:03:43.000 And the telephones don't work.

01:03:45.000 And there's no electrical power.

01:03:47.000 You can talk to each other and communicate, and then know where you're going to assemble.

01:03:52.000 Ham radio is not a bad idea either, even an underdash.

01:03:55.000 No, that's great.

01:03:57.000 Ham's, in all of the disasters, have been the significant communication point.

01:04:05.000 What do you think the chances are?

01:04:06.000 I'm looking at this whole thing with the ambassador, Christopher Stevens, and there's been all sorts of stuff circulating.

01:04:14.000 about him, how his, uh, an alleged lifestyle, how this alleged lifestyle may have led to him being targeted in some way, and blah, blah, blah, and then there was the whole deal about the video, and then that, uh, that ridiculous, uh, second debate.

01:04:28.000 It's like, yes, Mr. President, you did say something to the effect that we're not gonna, I'm paraphrasing here, we're not gonna roll over for any act of terrorism.

01:04:35.000 Now, this car bomb went off in Beirut.

01:04:38.000 We're just talking about Beirut.

01:04:39.000 The White House has immediately declared it's a terrorist attack, but it took two weeks.

01:04:43.000 I think if I'd been Romney, I would have said, you're right, you did use the expression, act of terrorism, or act of terror.

01:04:50.000 However, what's the deal with the next two weeks?

01:04:53.000 When half the people in your staff, you're the one where the buck stops, and Secretary Clinton said, and Susan Rice said, and blah blah, that's all about a video.

01:05:03.000 And now it seems that there may be some some arms dealing to further stir up the goo.

01:05:12.000 What do you got, Don?

01:05:13.000 Oh, this is difficult, John.

01:05:16.000 I know.

01:05:16.000 You know.

01:05:17.000 Let me.

01:05:18.000 Nobody likes to make a pontification or prediction and have it turn out to be just bollocks.

01:05:23.000 But let's give it a shot.

01:05:24.000 OK, well, let me give it again a little bit of background.

01:05:28.000 Some of these hijackings and tell you about my responsibilities.

01:05:33.000 When I was in the Middle East as a senior Air Force commander at that location.

01:05:39.000 Basically, if a hijacking occurred or a significant event that I injured one of my pilots or contractors or something significant happened to that operation, I had 20 minutes to report that.

01:05:58.000 And that went directly to Headquarters Air Force to my major command and to the ultimate White House sit room.

01:06:09.000 Yep.

01:06:10.000 And so, unless they cancel all of that in the last 20 years, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they've improved the system.

01:06:22.000 It didn't take 20 minutes.

01:06:24.000 They had real-time reporting Of what was going on and if things were right they could actually probably see what was going on.

01:06:34.000 Yeah, the surveillance capabilities of CIA and NSA and whoever else is up there that I don't know about.

01:06:41.000 What they could read the small print on a pack of cigarettes from 10 miles up 30 years ago.

01:06:46.000 I suppose they can count the hairs on your hand from a hundred miles now.

01:06:49.000 Well, I wouldn't go that far, but there's significant capability that allows us in what's called near real-time to monitor, and you've seen that in many, many movies.

01:07:02.000 Sure, you know the terrorists go, okay, the satellite is due to come over, we must put the AKs, put in the tent, camouflage, everything normal.

01:07:08.000 Okay, satellite is gone, resume shooting.

01:07:10.000 Well, but that's changed now because there's infrared and multispectral.

01:07:15.000 And so we can look through the tent and say, gee, they just stacked three AK-47s in the tent.

01:07:22.000 I'll say it for you so you don't have to.

01:07:24.000 I'll go out on the clothesline.

01:07:25.000 Here I go.

01:07:27.000 They knew what happened.

01:07:29.000 They could see what was happening.

01:07:31.000 And that information got transmitted to the proper authority probably within the hour.

01:07:37.000 I would almost bet my life on it.

01:07:41.000 If they didn't, then they had left the message about don't bother me just just put your hand up and go wait a minute let me go back to what i was saying the moment that i go a dd on you take off down another road but it's like why do i get the feeling that the entire middle east is melting down and that our president's persuasions for what whatever reason seem to aid and to bet this what what What is our policy in the Middle East?

01:08:06.000 And then let's go back to this arms deal that may have resulted in Stevens getting whacked.

01:08:10.000 And I'm speaking now as a representative of Don Heckert, the Alaskan.

01:08:15.000 Yes.

01:08:17.000 Not anything else.

01:08:18.000 Has nothing to do with anybody except us.

01:08:20.000 But my experience in that region at the levels that I was at with intelligence, and that involved multinational intelligence, is that We knew what was going on.

01:08:34.000 We knew how to find people.

01:08:37.000 And if we didn't, you didn't stay employed.

01:08:44.000 Is this a bad time to bring up Bin Laden? 0.74

01:08:49.000 Some people say he died ten years ago.

01:08:51.000 Well, I wasn't there, but I know that I was extremely disappointed that they put SEAL Team 7 at risk by Just being a natural cynic, Missouri-born Texan and all of that, I can't imagine that a SEAL would write a book about his experiences on a raid as recently as that.

01:09:15.000 I can't imagine a SEAL going rogue.

01:09:16.000 I just can't imagine it.

01:09:18.000 Is it possible or is it like what I think it is?

01:09:21.000 Well, I don't think that's a proper description.

01:09:25.000 You know, forgive me.

01:09:26.000 No, it's alright.

01:09:26.000 But I think that there's so much contradictory information out there.

01:09:32.000 That you reach a point where you just can't stand it anymore, and you say, no more conjecture, people.

01:09:41.000 I was there.

01:09:42.000 This is how the events went down.

01:09:45.000 And if you say that isn't true, you weren't there.

01:09:48.000 Gotcha.

01:09:50.000 Well, I'm still a little bit confused about two Blackhawks go in and one Blackhawk leaves with everybody on board.

01:09:55.000 I didn't think there was enough room.

01:09:56.000 Well, there isn't, but they had, I believe, CH-47s close by.

01:10:00.000 OK.

01:10:00.000 All right.

01:10:02.000 All right, I'm always, you know, the thing about it is, is that, and I'm sure the listening audience can relate to this one, there is so much just absolute nonsense that's transparent when you see it.

01:10:12.000 Then it gets a little bit better and a little bit more believable.

01:10:15.000 By the end of, maybe not the end of the day, but by the end of the week, you can't believe anything that you hear.

01:10:19.000 Well, and let me tell you this, in my Air Force career and my civilian flying career, I never saw an official make a decision That was illogical based on the information they had.

01:10:34.000 Okay, now we, in my view, we see the President and the State Department making what appear to be very illogical statements that persist for two weeks.

01:10:48.000 Yeah.

01:10:49.000 There is a reason and it's got to be a gigantic reason that that happened.

01:10:56.000 And I can't speculate because I don't know what caused that.

01:11:01.000 But I can tell you, everybody that's dealt at that level knows what the systems are.

01:11:07.000 I'm amazed that the Senators and the Congressmen have not jumped harder on those issues.

01:11:15.000 Just like the issue of gun running, or gun walking I guess you would call.

01:11:22.000 Oh yeah.

01:11:23.000 And you say, why in the world would people do this?

01:11:28.000 There is a reason they did it.

01:11:30.000 The reason may not be valid and that's one other belief and that is when you're in a situation where you're all-powerful as a commander or as a president or as a senator, sometimes you get so narrowly focused that you lose sight of reality.

01:11:53.000 You want to shoot the messenger rather than take care of the problem.

01:11:58.000 Yeah.

01:12:01.000 I don't know what the situation is.

01:12:03.000 I would say that right after the election, we're all going to find out what happened.

01:12:08.000 Well, just look at this thing right here.

01:12:09.000 How U.S.

01:12:09.000 Ambassador Chris Stevens may have been linked to jihadist rebels in Syria.

01:12:13.000 The official position is that the U.S.

01:12:14.000 has refused to allow heavy weapons into Syria, but there's growing evidence that U.S.

01:12:19.000 agents, particularly murdered Ambassador Chris Stevens, were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.

01:12:27.000 So, I'll say it.

01:12:30.000 I'll guess at it.

01:12:31.000 So, maybe Ambassador Stevens was in the know, and maybe this was becoming one of those things that might come to light, and maybe he just decided to pull the plug on the operation.

01:12:41.000 Maybe that's when he got a visit.

01:12:44.000 Well, let me relay a funny incident that happened to me when I was commander.

01:12:50.000 You always, as a commander, want to let your troops have a symbol or identify with something that gives a little bit of spirit to the organization.

01:13:00.000 Our airplanes were all black, no tail numbers.

01:13:04.000 Yes.

01:13:05.000 We weren't supposed to identify our airplanes uniquely.

01:13:09.000 My group put a Snoopy on the tail of my black airplane and it had resided there for about six months.

01:13:20.000 Okay.

01:13:21.000 I think everything's cool.

01:13:24.000 All of a sudden I'm called up to my supervision And a picture of my airplane, in flight, with Snoopy on board, you know, on the tail, is given to me, and the statement was, the Russian ambassador handed this to our ambassador.

01:13:41.000 Oh, no.

01:13:43.000 Would you kindly correct the problem?

01:13:48.000 Okay?

01:13:49.000 Gotcha.

01:13:50.000 We gotcha.

01:13:51.000 So, it's a funny situation.

01:13:54.000 There's very, sometimes very polite dealings.

01:13:58.000 But, uh, you know, I just know that there's communication up and down channels.

01:14:04.000 And that, believe it or not, they really do talk to each other, whether the mic is on or not.

01:14:08.000 You know, it's interesting, you, uh, what you were saying a while ago about when you were in a position of power.

01:14:15.000 I think, uh, I think what you're saying is, is no matter what you're involved in, you're going to adopt that, not just mindset, but to use an old hippie expression, a mind trip, meaning it'll just take you anywhere you want to go.

01:14:27.000 And you will become victimized by your own closed mind trip to where you really can't see outside.

01:14:37.000 You're so motivated by the objective that you're trying to make that you throw safety and all caution to the wind because you said it and you're the authority.

01:14:49.000 And so you try to make it happen.

01:14:51.000 Okay.

01:14:52.000 Alright, Alex Jones Radio Show rolls on.

01:14:55.000 Tell me, Alex Jones Control, do we need to take another little break here?

01:15:00.000 Oh, I like that.

01:15:05.000 We don't have to, so let's just keep rolling.

01:15:08.000 Tell you what, um, the election.

01:15:14.000 I'm thinking it's going to be worse than Carter.

01:15:17.000 I'm thinking that Romney's going to walk with this one.

01:15:20.000 One of the reasons that I think that Romney may walk with this one is because the usefulness of the current one has been spent.

01:15:28.000 He's attracting too much attention to himself and the great shadow government, whatever it may be, has gone, okay, time to change partners.

01:15:37.000 Get him out of here.

01:15:38.000 Let me tell you two personal stories about this voter sitting across from you.

01:15:45.000 I've voted in Alaska since 1979.

01:15:49.000 I've been a state resident since then.

01:15:52.000 And I'm concerned on a couple of issues, residence-wise.

01:15:57.000 The first one is I'm retired military.

01:16:00.000 I live on a military base, reside there.

01:16:03.000 And I just got a, I asked for, again, a ballot to be mailed to me.

01:16:12.000 And I got a note the day before yesterday in my mail, forwarded finally.

01:16:18.000 That, uh, my request for an absentee ballot was turned down because of the address that I had.

01:16:28.000 What does that mean?

01:16:29.000 Well, that means that, uh, I don't know how to prove my residency in Alaska, but at the same time, earlier this month, I received my permanent fund, which absolutely states that I've been a resident of Alaska since 1979, and if I lie about that, I go to jail.

01:16:49.000 So, both my wife and I probably will not get to vote in this election, and there's been a little bit of publicity about how the military, and in this case retired military, is having difficulty qualifying to vote.

01:17:07.000 I voted earlier in the primary elections, and so you say to yourself, why the problem now?

01:17:18.000 Is it something I did?

01:17:20.000 Possibly by leaving Alaska and not being there during the election.

01:17:25.000 So I'm definitely the cause of that.

01:17:27.000 But why the problem with my residency at this point in time when the state, you know, I have a fishing license that is permanent.

01:17:38.000 You've got all kinds of licenses that are permanent.

01:17:40.000 Yeah.

01:17:40.000 And so you just, I have to scratch my head and say, gee, I don't think Alaska is a swing But it does bother me that something is going on that I don't like.

01:17:54.000 Why don't we just go down to Illinois?

01:17:55.000 We could probably arrange to vote several times with no ID required.

01:17:59.000 Well, I'm happy with Alaska.

01:18:01.000 Well, I understand that.

01:18:03.000 Well, let me tell you one other story about that, and that is I switched back in April from an independent to a Republican registration.

01:18:18.000 That has to do with the state ballots.

01:18:22.000 As a Democrat, you can't vote a Republican in the primary.

01:18:27.000 As an independent, you can vote one or the other, not both.

01:18:31.000 Right.

01:18:32.000 But there's a real concern I've got.

01:18:37.000 And again, part of my history later in my career was justifying budgets in the black world. 1.00

01:18:45.000 To the Senate Appropriations Committee and the House Appropriations Committee.

01:18:50.000 So I know a little bit about the budgetary process in Washington, D.C.

01:18:54.000 Yeah.

01:18:55.000 What is going on with our deficit terrifies me.

01:19:03.000 What happens and how far out?

01:19:05.000 Just my crystal balls in the shop.

01:19:08.000 I was getting nothing but snow on it.

01:19:09.000 I took it to the shop and they still have it.

01:19:11.000 It's been there for a couple of years now.

01:19:15.000 Clearly, something's going to happen, but nobody, you know, trouble always comes really from where you least expect it.

01:19:21.000 So everybody's looking at how the elections are going to trigger something.

01:19:25.000 If Obama loses, it'll be, if Romney loses, there could be a problem just as easily as if Obama lost.

01:19:33.000 I mean, it just depends.

01:19:34.000 Well, and we don't know those factors.

01:19:36.000 Again, part of my military career, I was in Watts in 65 when they had those riots, and Gosh, you didn't expect it?

01:19:47.000 No.

01:19:47.000 You couldn't believe what was happening.

01:19:50.000 And, man alive, it's not a good place to be.

01:19:53.000 Well, you know, the thing about it is, when the last LA riots occurred, they did some in Dallas, and they interviewed a couple of the rioters, and they both said the same thing.

01:20:04.000 Well, they had theirs, so we wanted to have ours.

01:20:07.000 Free stuff.

01:20:08.000 Yeah, free stuff.

01:20:09.000 But they were doing it just to do it.

01:20:12.000 There was no looting or any cars being set on fire or any of that.

01:20:15.000 It was just everybody out there raising hell because they wanted to do it too.

01:20:19.000 Well, there's a true change taking place in the absolutes in society.

01:20:24.000 You know, there's a lot of concern about DHS buying all this ammo.

01:20:30.000 You know, hundreds of millions of rounds.

01:20:32.000 I think we're up to a billion rounds now.

01:20:36.000 What are we supposed to make out of that?

01:20:38.000 I mean, what are they worried about?

01:20:39.000 I don't think it's you and me.

01:20:40.000 No, I'm concerned.

01:20:43.000 As a crew member authorized to carry firearms, I've had to go through metal detectors even though, you know, I was authorized to carry those firearms.

01:20:56.000 Right.

01:20:57.000 And that really causes people to be upset that are there waiting.

01:21:04.000 Yeah.

01:21:05.000 You know, and see the buzzers go off and don't know what's going on.

01:21:08.000 Yeah.

01:21:08.000 This is quite a while ago before TSA was TSA.

01:21:13.000 But I'm really concerned that our rights and our privileges of flying have been interfered with so much it's worse than the German Gestapo ever was. 0.60

01:21:25.000 And the funny thing about it is you would think that if enough people called the airlines and said, listen, you get rid of these people and you put something sensible in place or we'll just quit flying you.

01:21:35.000 And you can all file for bankruptcy and we'll bloody well walk or we'll take the bus or we'll drive but we're not going to put up with this.

01:21:42.000 Last weekend on Coast to Coast I did this rock and roll thing and I was trying to find the answer to the question What happened to the revolution, or what happened, I called it the Rock Revolution, they changed it to the Legends of Rock, that's not really what it was supposed to start, it was supposed to be what happened to our revolution, this pushing back against big government, this pushing back against a police state, this pushing back against this undeclared war, and it occurred to me

01:22:07.000 That there's nothing that'll get you to join a revolution quicker than being drafted into an undeclared war where you're facing jail time if you don't go.

01:22:16.000 So I'm thinking that one of the reasons that we, that our rock and roll revolution kind of fizzled out is because our draft fizzled out.

01:22:25.000 The people back then recognized that they all shared the possibility of going and visiting people of an ancient culture and being forced to kill them as they said in Full Metal Jacket.

01:22:36.000 But that's not the case now.

01:22:37.000 We have a volunteer army now.

01:22:39.000 And so, what followed then was, yeah, and I said this, I don't want them used as mercenaries.

01:22:47.000 If they're a volunteer army, and they're being paid, and they're fighting in an undeclared war, what does that make them?

01:22:54.000 Well, it's a very difficult situation.

01:22:57.000 It is.

01:22:58.000 Let me again go back to my career.

01:23:01.000 My class, and I was a class of 1963, By the time I came home out of college as a junior, I had many classmates that were returning from Vietnam after their tour, having been drafted.

01:23:17.000 I didn't get to Vietnam until 1973, and I was a volunteer the entire time for that, and it just took that Long to train me.

01:23:28.000 I must have been really slow on the uptake.

01:23:31.000 Right.

01:23:31.000 But the bottom line is that that was a shared responsibility that everybody knew.

01:23:41.000 And I've heard many stories of people, some that were A1 that didn't get drafted and others that got called when they didn't think they should have and they were further down the line.

01:23:56.000 One little anecdotal thing was that when I was at R.F.

01:24:01.000 Alkenberry in England and this was in 1983, I got a letter from my draft board that basically was addressed to me as Lieutenant Colonel and it advised me that I hadn't registered for the draft and that I was in danger of losing all government benefits and possibly subject to legal action

01:24:26.000 And it was sent to a military air force base with me being military and I said, gee, do I need to respond?

01:24:34.000 This took down the Jag and he says, how old were you when you joined the air force?

01:24:38.000 And I said, 17.

01:24:38.000 And he says, throw it away.

01:24:43.000 But there's always something like that that happens.

01:24:46.000 That sort of situation seems to follow you around.

01:24:48.000 Now you've got the voter registration thing in Alaska now.

01:24:50.000 Yeah, it's a black cloud, right?

01:24:53.000 I'll tell you what, let's recapitulate here.

01:24:57.000 Recap, as they say.

01:24:58.000 You notice how many people don't know recap is short for recapitulate.

01:25:02.000 So we just visit it again.

01:25:05.000 Going back to the radiation levels and any potential poisoning up there in the Pacific Northwest, the jury's still out on what's causing the lesions on the mammals.

01:25:12.000 Well, and that, yes, I believe so.

01:25:15.000 My concern is that I'm seeing a general environmental shift.

01:25:20.000 And I don't know what it is.

01:25:21.000 I'm sure the scientists at this point don't know what it is.

01:25:25.000 And I haven't read in the scientific literature any information about the in-depth studies.

01:25:34.000 We see the International Atomic Energy Agency sends out a monthly report, but they only report on two specific nuclides, or radioactive materials, and there's whole bunches of other ones.

01:25:48.000 And some of those, like earlier in the program I talked about strontium.

01:25:52.000 I want to know what the heck's going on with the strontium.

01:25:55.000 I want to know where the debris settled in the ocean, and if it moved through a column of water.

01:26:04.000 Those kind of things I believe are available at other agencies, but I'm not sure that the governmental focus is sufficient yet to do that, and nor do they want to do that at this point, because it's going to raise a whole bunch of other relational issues.

01:26:26.000 If I pollute your country and harm your citizens because of my radioactivity, Do I have financial responsibility towards you?

01:26:36.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:38.000 And, you know, the trial lawyers will go crazy.

01:26:41.000 Well, not only that, but any aspersions cast on the safety of nuclear power, in any case, may threaten the nuclear industry's ability to make some money and build some more plants.

01:26:52.000 And I can't see how the administration could threaten it any more than they can have the coal industry.

01:26:59.000 Because they haven't told the nuclear industry they're going to abolish it.

01:27:03.000 But it sounds very clearly that the administration is going to attempt to abolish coal.

01:27:10.000 And again, an Alaska story, we have a clean burning power plant that was built right next to our excellent coal source in Healy, Alaska.

01:27:23.000 And there's a big mine there that supports the Japanese and the Koreans. 0.99

01:27:28.000 Well, the idea was that let's build an intertie system, which is in place now, And build this plant and it can't get an operating license.

01:27:38.000 They're still struggling and I believe it's the fifth year to try to get that license approved and it's really a shame because we could produce that.

01:27:50.000 Yeah, it's as efficient as the original Ford plant up there in Dearborn.

01:27:55.000 Here's your dirt with your iron ore in it on one end of the plant and on the other end of the plant a car rolls out.

01:28:00.000 It was all one Turnkey operation, the whole thing, that's what you have going on up there, but they won't license it.

01:28:06.000 That's correct, and so what's the next step?

01:28:08.000 They want to build a dam.

01:28:10.000 And that's going to be even more interesting.

01:28:12.000 Yeah, so what's the... Matanuska River... What's the effect on the fish and everything else going to be with that?

01:28:21.000 I mean, is somebody going to raise a flag over that?

01:28:23.000 And yes, it's been raised and their study's ongoing.

01:28:26.000 At least they're talking about it.

01:28:28.000 And they'll present that, hopefully, to the people to vote on first, and say, do we really want to do this?

01:28:34.000 And then move ahead.

01:28:36.000 So, I wonder if they provided more than $100,000 to study this.

01:28:41.000 Because they only came out with $100,000 to study the nuclear impact on that whole region.

01:28:46.000 So, yeah, this might be a good time to mention, this is the Alex Jones Radio Show, and if you would like to participate in the Money Bomb, it's about 15 hours and some change minutes-wise left, called Triple Eight, 253-3139.

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01:29:33.000 It was about the size of a large, unpleasantly sized laptop.

01:29:37.000 And I thought there's got to be something smaller.

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01:30:07.000 What shall we, uh, you got your finger up?

01:30:09.000 Yeah, I got my finger up.

01:30:10.000 One other thing I want to talk about, and I'm an excellent example of this, is medication.

01:30:15.000 Okay.

01:30:17.000 Oh, you know what, that's very, very important.

01:30:19.000 I'm sorry.

01:30:21.000 Without revealing too much of my medical history.

01:30:24.000 Understood.

01:30:25.000 I have medication requirements on a daily basis and so some of that needs to be refrigerated.

01:30:33.000 Yeah.

01:30:33.000 Okay, so you've got to prep for that and then get the doctor to write enough prescription so that you can have that supply and if you keep it in the house that burns it doesn't do you a bit of good.

01:30:48.000 And so you have to have a trusted neighbor.

01:30:51.000 Possibly.

01:30:52.000 Or you need to keep it in a glove box and you need to figure a way to get it through the transportation system safely and that's to keep it in its prescription bottles.

01:31:04.000 But you've just got to plan for that and you can imagine during Katrina or any of the other major disasters is that if you have daily medication requirements And you don't get it three days.

01:31:18.000 In some cases, people don't recover from that.

01:31:21.000 Right.

01:31:22.000 And so, plan that, stockpile a little bit of it, and then rotate the stock.

01:31:29.000 Okay, and you know the thing about, throw all your medications away after one year.

01:31:34.000 They just want you to buy more.

01:31:35.000 That's all that's about.

01:31:36.000 There's nothing wrong with that medicine.

01:31:38.000 In 99% of the cases, there's nothing wrong with that medication.

01:31:42.000 That's correct.

01:31:43.000 And if you ask your doctor, point blank, he may Show you some data that says, well, it's 95% effective after the second year.

01:31:51.000 Well, that'll work.

01:31:52.000 And, you know, and so... As long as it's not 9% or 9.5, 95 will be fine.

01:31:58.000 That's right.

01:31:59.000 All right.

01:32:01.000 What else can we talk about here in the few minutes that remain?

01:32:03.000 Well, we can talk about airplanes or developments or anything else that you want to address.

01:32:12.000 All right.

01:32:13.000 Let's look at your crystal ball again.

01:32:15.000 And who's going to win this election?

01:32:19.000 I'm not going to jinx it by guessing.

01:32:22.000 It's funny though that the polls are all shifting toward Romney with the exception of a few states.

01:32:26.000 You know, Ohio is about a three point spread last time I looked and the other one is within a point.

01:32:31.000 Well, I think the economy very clearly and the foreign policy issue, which is probably going to come in really sharp focus on Monday, are issues that are extremely hard to defend.

01:32:46.000 And we'll We'll see what comes out of that debate.

01:32:51.000 I think there's a high probability that there's more shifting that's going to take place.

01:32:57.000 Yeah, I think it's funny that there was all of this stuff, I mean, right here on InfoWars, there's all sorts of stuff about these death threats, 50 crazy, this is a good one, this is from the other day, 50 crazy things that Obama supporters are threatening to do.

01:33:16.000 Uh, you know, from cry in the fetal position to, um, I must start a riot.

01:33:21.000 Or is that Emma start a riot? 0.95

01:33:23.000 I don't know.

01:33:24.000 Uh, somebody's going back to, uh, we got people going back to Italy, Brazil, Ghana, and Zimbabwe.

01:33:30.000 Which one right here?

01:33:32.000 Moving out of the country, you bet.

01:33:33.000 Oh yeah, but the problem is, is, uh, where to?

01:33:35.000 Now here's a philosophical question for you.

01:33:38.000 Let's say that something, that things really did get so silly in the United States that a lot, a measurable percentage of people decide they want to go somewhere else.

01:33:45.000 What do you think the chances are that Americans, because you must blame America for many of the things that are wrong with the world.

01:33:52.000 What do you think the chances are that Americans could become, well, one of the most haunted creatures on Earth?

01:34:00.000 Well, we're very fortunate.

01:34:02.000 I guess we represent somewhere close to 6% of the population.

01:34:06.000 Yeah.

01:34:06.000 I think I'd be more worried about that horde of other people trying to come our direction.

01:34:13.000 And this is one of the reasons I'm in Alaska, besides loving the freedom.

01:34:18.000 Alaska's resource is like the late 1800s must have been on the West Coast.

01:34:23.000 Really?

01:34:24.000 And so it's really a pristine environment, and that's why we're concerned about the stuff floating up on our beaches.

01:34:31.000 Yeah.

01:34:32.000 And there's still enough food, game-wise, and a lot of people don't realize it, but during the summer months, we have a growing season That is so long, there's so much daylight that the plants literally grow, go completely crazy.

01:34:50.000 I've got to mow my lawn every three days because it's done a week of growth.

01:34:55.000 Really?

01:34:56.000 In that period of time, you know, from late June, you know, through the end of July.

01:35:02.000 Wow.

01:35:03.000 So it's an interesting phenomenon.

01:35:05.000 And if you haven't ever seen the killer cabbages and the different Growth items, from a vegetable point of view, I think we have a lot of world record size of vegetation.

01:35:21.000 The other part about Alaska, again, and being a resource, wherever you're in sparse population, there's a real chance to survive and live off the land for a period of time.

01:35:38.000 One of the other things that are in my survival kit, Then this is a long-term one, is seeds.

01:35:44.000 And so I can at least plant a garden whenever spring would roll around and try to get some food that way.

01:35:53.000 Takes a while for that stuff to grow, though.

01:35:54.000 That's the only thing.

01:35:55.000 I mean, I can remember when my parents and my friends' parents were always canning things.

01:36:01.000 But I don't see people canning things, putting them up in jars anymore.

01:36:03.000 I'm not sure that anybody even knows how anymore.

01:36:06.000 Well, we do in Alaska.

01:36:08.000 I bet you do.

01:36:10.000 We actually brought a case of that canned salmon down for the family so that they could enjoy it.

01:36:17.000 And let me give you an example.

01:36:19.000 In Alaska, our salmon run very plentifully.

01:36:24.000 And so all I have to do is identify myself to Fish and Game, and I can put out a gill net and get at least 25 salmon for me and another 10 for each member of my family.

01:36:41.000 Those are good size fish too.

01:36:42.000 Those are good size, you know, we're talking 8 to 15 pound fish and that's enough to put in the freezer to live off of.

01:36:50.000 Sure.

01:36:52.000 Same way if most people don't realize how big a moose is.

01:36:56.000 Right.

01:36:57.000 It is really big.

01:37:00.000 Yeah.

01:37:02.000 Just for giggles as we wind up the program here, how much does one of those How much does a moose weigh?

01:37:09.000 About 2,500 pounds, something?

01:37:11.000 Yes.

01:37:12.000 I'd say more 1,800 to 2,000.

01:37:16.000 But what's amazing is that if you stand up next to one, and I'm talking a middle-sized one, you come up not to the top of their shoulders, but where their legs connect, and it's quite easily to see nine or ten foot at the top of the antlers.

01:37:33.000 No kidding.

01:37:34.000 And there are more people injured and killed in Alaska By mooses, during the winter time, than there are bears.

01:37:42.000 So it's mooses, it's not meese.

01:37:44.000 No, yeah.

01:37:44.000 Okay, gotcha.

01:37:45.000 Or moose-eye.

01:37:46.000 Yeah, you know, I knew they were big.

01:37:47.000 You go, look at that guy, he's a moose, right?

01:37:49.000 But I had no idea they were ten feet at the top of the antlers.

01:37:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:37:53.000 They're absolutely huge.

01:37:55.000 And you don't clean a moose by rolling it over on its back.

01:38:01.000 Right.

01:38:01.000 You start dismembering it and work down.

01:38:04.000 Yes.

01:38:07.000 It is a lot of fun shooting moose.

01:38:09.000 Yeah.

01:38:09.000 But for that few seconds of fun, you have two days of work to process, clean, and cut up and store the meat.

01:38:18.000 You know, I think a buffalo might be easier.

01:38:20.000 Well, I'm not sure. 0.64

01:38:21.000 They're disgusting, though, you know?

01:38:22.000 You've got to pull that skin off.

01:38:24.000 That's the nasty part, as Wyatt Earp used to say.

01:38:27.000 All righty, then.

01:38:27.000 I'll tell you what.

01:38:28.000 Let me just... One more little pitch here.

01:38:30.000 There are just hours left on the Money Bomb.

01:38:33.000 And I want you to keep in mind that when you call 888-253-3139 and make a little contribution or go to the InfoWars store and get something that you need, you will support the broadcast facilities, the staff, an upcoming free-to-air, FTA for short, broadcast satellite operation, and actually contribute to extending the ability of InfoWars and Prison Planet TV to continue to broadcast 60 days and beyond any kind of a prolonged bank holiday, which

01:39:03.000 Which is a very distinct possibility.

01:39:05.000 You know, you've had the benefit of working with these really smart people.

01:39:13.000 Very, very, very smart.

01:39:14.000 The best of the best.

01:39:16.000 And yet with all, they are human beings.

01:39:18.000 They are people, too.

01:39:19.000 They occasionally make mistakes.

01:39:20.000 They occasionally crack up an airplane, God forbid, but it does happen.

01:39:23.000 What do the people that you still stay in contact with?

01:39:33.000 What is their prognosis for the future of this country?

01:39:37.000 Do they feel like we'll go through a lot of things, which the odds may compel us to go through, or you know, external forces may compel us to endure these things, but I mean, what does it look like on the horizon for the survival of the Republic?

01:39:50.000 Well, again, I'm dealing with a very narrow population.

01:39:54.000 The vast majority of my friends are from the military, and universally we We're all aware, because we've lived overseas, we've lived through shortages, and we've seen how sometimes the infrastructure can fail you, that we're prepared.

01:40:15.000 The other part of that is more a sense of community.

01:40:19.000 And, you know, you get a group of families together, and you form, you know, friendships, and you really truly rely on those people.

01:40:29.000 And I'm sure that happens in the urban areas.

01:40:32.000 I've seen it with my daughter and her son-in-law, where the next door neighbor helps move the kids back and forth to school or appointments, and their kids come over to play when mom needs to go shopping or, you know, go to a doctor appointment.

01:40:47.000 And so I think the identity of community and the stick-to-it-even-dust, and the other thing that I've always been just impressed with is that you put a group of Americans together And we seem to be able to build up and change the environment in a very positive nature and work together to better everybody.

01:41:12.000 And so I think we're in for very rocky times, but I'm also very optimistic that my grandchildren are going to see a lot better America and USA, hopefully a world, than we're looking at right now.

01:41:30.000 I do not Hold optimism for the Middle East at this point.

01:41:36.000 But it's now gone.

01:41:39.000 We're just going to have to batten down the hatches and wait and see what happens.

01:41:43.000 Have you seen 2016?

01:41:45.000 Yes, I have, sir.

01:41:45.000 There's another one that everybody should see and that's Atlas Shrugged.

01:41:48.000 Yes.

01:41:49.000 But 2016 for sure.

01:41:51.000 Now, of course, DeSouza's got himself in a little bit of hot water, but that, you know, and again, the moment that one little piece of credibility is neutralized or otherwise threatened, it prejudices the entire work.

01:42:01.000 Don't let that happen.

01:42:03.000 I really believe that the current administration is facilitating a Muslim Brotherhood takeover of the entire Muslim world, the entire Middle East, and make a United States of Islam. 0.99

01:42:15.000 I really...

01:42:17.000 I mean, look, you can look at it and look at it and go, well, I don't know.

01:42:20.000 But after you see the trend and the trend continues, what are you left with?

01:42:25.000 Well, and I think we have to stay nationally involved in those areas.

01:42:31.000 And we have to be strong enough to stand up and say, these are our beliefs.

01:42:37.000 And I really can understand why you might be upset if somebody puts your holy book in the toilet. 0.99

01:42:43.000 But don't burn mine or put mine in the toilet either because I don't go after you and chop your head off. 0.99

01:42:43.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:42:51.000 You know, don't misunderstand or misinterpret my actions.

01:42:56.000 I am a strong believer in strength.

01:42:59.000 I want to see us defend, you know, our rights and our civilization.

01:43:04.000 To make sure that my grandkids and their grandkids have a fit place to live. 0.95

01:43:11.000 It's interesting that when our Commander-in-Chief says something about it, I'm paraphrasing here, it's just a terrible thing when people continue to hurt the religious feelings of others, you know, and on and on about this very offensive video, which is just the silliest, dumbest thing I've ever seen, you know.

01:43:28.000 But I gotta tell you that You know what offends me?

01:43:32.000 Is seeing a crucifix upside down in a container filled with urine and knowing that my tax dollars paid for that through the National Endowment of the Arts.

01:43:43.000 Now I find that offensive.

01:43:43.000 Yes.

01:43:45.000 But let me ask you something, Don.

01:43:46.000 Who do I see about that?

01:43:48.000 Well... Who do I call about that?

01:43:54.000 I believe the instructor said, next question?

01:43:56.000 Yeah.

01:43:57.000 Alright.

01:44:00.000 I gotta ask you something.

01:44:01.000 What was it like to fly one of those things?

01:44:03.000 And you know the one I'm talking about.

01:44:04.000 Yeah.

01:44:05.000 Basically, of all the airplanes, and there have been more than 30 of them that I've flown, the U-2 was the most fun.

01:44:16.000 Also, the most physically demanding airplane.

01:44:20.000 Basically, a lot of people don't realize that in 1955, The thrust to weight of that airplane, meaning it could take off straight up, was greater than 1 to 1.

01:44:34.000 And when they retired the airplanes, and I believe it was 1989, and released the data, I think there were 11 world records that were set by its time to climb and altitude capability for the size of airplane it was.

01:44:50.000 It was a very difficult airplane to land and learn how to fly.

01:44:56.000 And they actually didn't get a 2C trainer until 1974.

01:45:01.000 And they learned their lesson when they built the next run, the third run of the U-2TR-1, they actually built two trainers.

01:45:11.000 And so we didn't have the number of accidents in the airplane learning to fly it that they'd had previously.

01:45:23.000 I don't know if you can comment on this, but if you want to, it's okay with me.

01:45:26.000 Fritz, fearless Fritz Baumgartner just broke the speed of sound, floating up to it in the balloon and then letting himself go.

01:45:35.000 Any comments on that?

01:45:37.000 Well, everybody knows what the SR-71 is.

01:45:46.000 The Blackbird.

01:45:47.000 The Blackbird.

01:45:48.000 There's also a predecessor to that called the A-11 and a research airplane called the YF-12.

01:45:54.000 And those things were Mach 3 airplanes.

01:45:58.000 Yes.

01:45:58.000 And there were ejections at its altitude that it was flying at Mach 3.

01:46:05.000 Altitude which we cannot mention.

01:46:06.000 Which we won't mention.

01:46:08.000 But the fact that people have been Mach 3 after ejecting from that airplane Punching out at Mach 3.

01:46:20.000 Okay, but now I've got to clarify it.

01:46:23.000 Okay.

01:46:23.000 At altitudes, I'll use just a generic example, let's say 75,000 feet, Mach 1 might be 92 knots.

01:46:33.000 Gotcha.

01:46:35.000 And so that's the air pressure you feel.

01:46:38.000 So you're actually going across the ground and through the air at Mach 3, but the wind resistance Is like you jumped out at 280 knots.

01:46:49.000 No kidding.

01:46:51.000 And so there's a lot of different atmospheric dynamics and issues like that.

01:46:57.000 But there have been ejections at Mach 3 at max altitude with airplanes.

01:47:04.000 So speed is speed and risk is risk and altitude is altitude and it's all relative and yet somehow not related.

01:47:11.000 And he's a very brave man to do it.

01:47:14.000 And we honor him for that.

01:47:16.000 Yes, we do.

01:47:17.000 And I'm proud.

01:47:19.000 His space suit didn't look very much different from the ones that we are still wearing.

01:47:25.000 And the thing that will be done is the thing that hath been done, and there is nothing new under the sun.

01:47:31.000 We agreed we weren't going to talk about UFOs.

01:47:34.000 I'll tell you what.

01:47:35.000 They didn't call him Solomon for nothing. 0.97

01:47:36.000 He was a wise man.

01:47:37.000 Well, it's 0200 Zulu time, which means somewhere over in London, the bars are just really Starting to close just now.

01:47:45.000 That's Zulu time. 0.98

01:47:46.000 Don Hecker, it's been a real pleasure to speak with you this evening.

01:47:49.000 Thank you, sir.

01:47:50.000 Hope you'll come back for an elongated testimonial next time.

01:47:53.000 I hope so, and God bless you all out there.

01:47:57.000 We appreciate the opportunity to speak on Alex's website.

01:48:03.000 Yep.

01:48:03.000 Alex Jones Radio Program.

01:48:05.000 Well, John B. Wells here signing off.

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01:51:24.000 As we've documented here on InfoWars, there are scores of experts and scientists who are on record warning people that there is a significant radiation risk from airport body scanners.

01:51:42.000 Yet the federal government has installed and activated these x-ray machines in just about every airport across the country, including here at Austin International.

01:51:53.000 Okay, so there's increased security at airports.

01:51:55.000 They're rolling out the naked body scanners, the TSA grove downs, things like that.

01:52:00.000 Is all this necessary for security?

01:52:02.000 Do you feel it makes you feel safer?

01:52:04.000 No, it does not make me feel safer at all.

01:52:08.000 I think it's... I actually think it's pretty messed up what they're doing.

01:52:12.000 Does it make you feel safer or do you think it's an infringement on your privacy?

01:52:17.000 I definitely feel safer in anything they can do to Increased security, I think, is a blessing for all of us.

01:52:24.000 You can't be overly safe.

01:52:26.000 I don't know if everyone should be subjected to that.

01:52:28.000 I think it does make me feel a little bit safer knowing that there's at least, at least that they're trying.

01:52:33.000 The idea that there's a naked picture out there somewhere of me is a little creepy, but also kind of fun.

01:52:39.000 And what about the pat-downs?

01:52:40.000 Some people think that's an infringement of their rights as well.

01:52:43.000 They're being pat-downed by TSA.

01:52:45.000 And if not, they go through the naked body scanners.

01:52:48.000 And is this something that makes you feel safer?

01:52:51.000 Is it something that we need to be doing for our safety?

01:52:54.000 Yeah, I'm afraid, unfortunately, I'm afraid it is.

01:52:57.000 It's not, I don't feel, you know, I don't feel, I'm a nurse though, see, so people with their hands on my body, that doesn't really bother me.

01:53:04.000 I have my hands on people's bodies every day.

01:53:06.000 So, you know, it's not a big deal for me.

01:53:08.000 How do you feel?

01:53:08.000 Do you feel like it's an infringement?

01:53:10.000 I have a mammogram every year and they're saying that that is too high of a dose.

01:53:16.000 And I disagree, it's not too high.

01:53:18.000 With as much as they make us take off to go through those things, you're not carrying anything on.

01:53:23.000 I don't think it's necessary for the children to be patted down.

01:53:26.000 I really don't appreciate it and I think it's a little bit disrespectful to who I am and what I'm doing.

01:53:33.000 So, I guess it's a little bit of a privacy infringement.

01:53:36.000 For those of you who plan on avoiding the TSA by staying away from airports, I'm afraid you're in for a rude awakening, because the TSA has actually expanded its VIPER program, which is already active in airports, bus terminals, and subway stations, but now it also includes roadside inspections of commercial vehicles on the roads and highways across America.

01:53:59.000 So a lot of people are refusing to fly, because they don't want to go through this, but there's also privacy advocates who I think are justly concerned that these TSA checkpoints are expanding, not only airports, but their bus terminals, their subway stations, and now even roadside checkpoints.

01:54:15.000 So they're stopping cars on freeways and roads across America.

01:54:19.000 Are they going too far?

01:54:21.000 Definitely going too far.

01:54:22.000 I've never heard of that, but yeah, if they are doing that, that's, yeah, they are going very far.

01:54:28.000 I think they're going a little too far.

01:54:29.000 Yeah, I think that's going a little too far.

01:54:31.000 I don't think that's the best use of our time and resources.

01:54:36.000 No, I think that's going a little too far.

01:54:38.000 I don't think that might be a waste of resources.

01:54:40.000 I believe right now we're at a time and age where it's necessary.

01:54:43.000 Let's say the terrorists hate us for our freedoms, then they're winning.

01:54:48.000 Because now we're no longer free if we're going to be subject to illegal searches and seizures.

01:54:53.000 What would you say to those folks?

01:54:56.000 I think that's taking it a little extreme.

01:54:58.000 It's not that you're not free, we're just being really safe.

01:55:01.000 Now it's interesting to note that earlier this year, a bill was introduced to the Texas Legislature that would actually bar full body scans and full body pat-downs at airports.

01:55:12.000 As you can imagine, the bill attracted much support and gained momentum, but was shot down as the State Department threatened to implement a no-fly zone across the entire state of Texas, should the bill pass.

01:55:24.000 And now the TSA want their agents patting down, searching, scanning, and harassing American citizens at all levels of society.

01:55:32.000 And not just at transportation hubs, but at major sporting events, in the streets, and on the highways across America.

01:55:39.000 I'm Darren McBreen for InfoWars Nightly News.

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01:58:09.000 Riding shotgun with me is Rob Jacobson.

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01:58:16.000 What's going on, Rob?

01:58:17.000 Nothing much, Russell.

01:58:18.000 Thanks for having me on.

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01:58:22.000 Yes, it's a lot of fun, a lot of fun.

01:58:25.000 I'm excited.

01:58:25.000 I've been a big fan of Alex's for many years, known Alex for about 12 years.

01:58:29.000 And just what a treat to be sitting right here in his chair here and broadcasting to you fine folks tonight.

01:58:37.000 What a great thrill.

01:58:37.000 Totally incredible.

01:58:38.000 It's incredible to be here tonight.

01:58:40.000 Very cool.

01:58:41.000 And we've got a couple of guests lined up.

01:58:45.000 We've got another Obama guest.

01:58:50.000 Joel Gilbert.

01:58:50.000 Joel dreams for my real father.

01:58:53.000 A DVD that I enjoyed watching.

01:58:54.000 It was definitely a lot of food for thought.

01:58:57.000 Very thought provoking.

01:58:58.000 Got me thinking about a lot of different things.

01:59:01.000 I thought it really put together the background Obama story for me.

01:59:06.000 A lot better.

01:59:07.000 It filled in a lot of blanks that I kind of had questions about.

01:59:11.000 You know, like, um, a lot of his history is kind of, well, did he do this?

01:59:16.000 Didn't he do that?

01:59:17.000 Uh, and it seemed when it brought it all together for me, especially the, you know, It's a different take than what I had ever read before, and I love the film so much.

01:59:35.000 I mean, I think I've seen it like three times now.

01:59:38.000 But I really enjoyed this film, and let me ask you, and we'll bring Joel on here in a second, but you worked on Obama Deception.

01:59:46.000 In the production of that film, how does Dreams of My Real Father stack up against other films that you've worked on?

01:59:55.000 It's got to be a little different take.

01:59:57.000 It's a little different take.

01:59:58.000 I mean, Obama Deception is definitely more about the bankers behind Obama, this larger plan, them using him as a puppet, a front person, basically to move their more global agenda along.

02:00:14.000 Well, James and I, for my real father, basically goes back into who Obama really is.

02:00:18.000 Let's figure out who this person really is.

02:00:20.000 And he's so, like, you know, there's so much mystery around his past that it's really thought-provoking stuff.

02:00:27.000 I, you know, based on all the other histories of Obama, they're all kind of like, well, we know this much about him, but there's still a missing gap.

02:00:35.000 And I think this really does bring a lot of pieces together.

02:00:38.000 Well, this will be a very powerful interview with Joel Gilbert and we'll bring Joel in and then later in the last 15 or 20 minutes of the program, Luke Rudowski will be joining us on the program briefly and talk about some things currently going up there with him in New York.

02:00:54.000 In the meantime, let's bring in Joel Gilbert.

02:00:57.000 This is Russell Dowden from M4 Wars Magazine.

02:01:00.000 Glad you could join us, my friend.

02:01:01.000 Hey, great to be here.

02:01:02.000 Thanks for having me.

02:01:04.000 Good to have you on, man.

02:01:05.000 You know, last night on my program here, on my bid at 1 a.m.

02:01:09.000 last night here on Moneybomb, I had the pleasure of speaking with Philip J. Berg, ironically, on Obama crimes and the whole birth certificate thing.

02:01:20.000 So I had the opportunity to fill in tonight as well.

02:01:24.000 And luckily, it's Obama again we're talking about, Joel.

02:01:28.000 Welcome to the program.

02:01:29.000 Are you a little familiar at all, real quick, on Philip J. Burke's stuff and the whole... What's your thought on the birth certificate before we jump right into the film?

02:01:39.000 Well, my information, as I explain in my film, is that Obama's real biological father was an American citizen, was Frank Marshall Davis, the Communist Party USA propagandist and Soviet agent.

02:01:53.000 And it was not the Kenyan Obama, it was simply a sham marriage at that time to cover up an illicit affair. 0.83

02:02:00.000 It was not some grand plan to have him run for president one day.

02:02:05.000 So I believe he had two American parents.

02:02:08.000 No one has seen a birth certificate that anybody feels confident that it is valid.

02:02:13.000 So ultimately we'll never know where he was born until he produces a birth certificate.

02:02:18.000 But my information is that Davis is the real father and that the birth certificate father's name was left blank.

02:02:26.000 Meaning Father Unknown is the status as far as I know.

02:02:30.000 Well, Joel, I gotta tell you, man, the film was really provocative.

02:02:35.000 I was blown away so much by the first time I watched it.

02:02:39.000 I had to watch it again, so I watched it the next night at home and just was even picked up even more information from the film.

02:02:46.000 Uh, the second time.

02:02:47.000 And, uh, just very powerful.

02:02:49.000 Um, real quick, tell us, um, why you decided to make, uh, this film that's so powerful and, uh, you know, what got you started on the, uh, the, uh, tracing down the roots of Obama.

02:02:59.000 I got started because I produced a film in 2010 called Atomic Jihad, Ahmadinejad's coming war, and Obama's politics of defeat.

02:03:09.000 And I watched a couple of hundred videos of Obama's speeches looking for foreign policy type of comments, and I noticed whenever he talked about the rich and the poor, He's he is personality would change he'd put on the preacher voice He'd start screaming and be excited and all happy and then he'd go on to another subject and he'd be calm again So I realized this guy had some incredible passion for class struggle

02:03:35.000 I read his book, Dreams from My Father, and right away I could see it was just this life journey in the little-known world of American Marxism.

02:03:43.000 He goes to study with Marxist professors at Occidental.

02:03:47.000 He goes to socialist conferences, like the Communist Party Conference in New York.

02:03:51.000 He becomes an organizer, Project Vote.

02:03:55.000 It's a life journey in the dreams of Uh-huh.

02:03:58.000 someone else other than this Kenyan Obama.

02:04:00.000 And then throughout his book, he talks about Frank 25 times.

02:04:03.000 Frank, 2,500 words.

02:04:05.000 Frank.

02:04:06.000 Frank is Frank Marshall Davis, the Communist Party propagandist, who he admits raised him from age nine.

02:04:12.000 So I read all about Frank, and right away the photos look, you know, Frank looks just like Obama, whereas he looks nothing like the Kenyan. 0.81

02:04:21.000 So that led me on a path to, I realized that the question to understand Obama's policies, his psychology.

02:04:21.000 Yeah.

02:04:29.000 The question was not, where's the birth certificate?

02:04:32.000 The question was, who is the real father?

02:04:35.000 And Obama's style is to misdirect and lie about all the information to try to confuse people.

02:04:43.000 But once I focused on who's the real father, all the information was just there.

02:04:47.000 So I put together this life story, "Dreams from My Real Father" that shows his entire journey, starting with Frank Marshall Davis.

02:04:55.000 He was indoctrinated by Davis from age nine to 18.

02:04:59.000 Exactly.

02:05:00.000 He arrives in the Occidental College in Chicago as a committed revolutionary Marxist, essentially.

02:05:06.000 And he had some influence on this belief, and as your film suggests, it was none other than Frank Marshall Davis.

02:05:15.000 Correct.

02:05:15.000 And I've documented there was an intimate relationship between Obama's mother and Davis.

02:05:21.000 uh... and i'm in davis we show the photos in the family put some black bars to be respectful uh...

02:05:27.000 we show that all of them was brought back from indonesia age nine to be raised by davis and that uh... obama has a very close connection his entire life He's the spitting image of Frank Marshall Davis while he looks nothing like the Kenyan.

02:05:41.000 And I've proven all of dreams from my father as a fairy tale.

02:05:45.000 His book is a fairy tale.

02:05:46.000 He claimed that when the Kenyan was going to Harvard when he was three years old, that's what broke up his family of improbable love.

02:05:53.000 In fact, his mother was enrolled at the University of Washington in Seattle.

02:05:57.000 And we have the transcripts.

02:05:59.000 When he was only three weeks old and the Kenyan stayed in Hawaii. 0.99

02:06:02.000 So all the evidence is in it was a sham marriage.

02:06:05.000 Obama found out about it at about age 12, was raised by Davis, and my evidence shows that he has pursued the entire life the Marxist dreams from his real father, and that in the White House today we have what's known as a red diaper baby.

02:06:20.000 This means the child of a Communist Party USA member.

02:06:24.000 It's a very common phenomenon, the radical left, whether underground, SDS, leadership was all children of these Communist Party members.

02:06:34.000 By the way, David Axelrod, also Red Decker baby, his mother was a Red journalist, just like Obama's father was a Communist journalist.

02:06:42.000 Valerie Jarrett, her father-in-law, Worked on the Chicago Star the communist newspaper in Chicago with Obama's father So it all goes back to this rat's nest of Marxists and communists in Chicago, and they found their way together into the White House It's just powerful.

02:07:00.000 It's just I mean I heard Alex talking about this film when you when you were on the show with him Working here.

02:07:07.000 I got a chance to pick up the film take it home check it out And I kept that film for about three nights, and I watched it literally Three times in about a four or five day period and the film is a very explosive.

02:07:20.000 Folks, you can call and order this film.

02:07:22.000 Some of the staff here, Rob, hasn't even seen the film.

02:07:25.000 My department, I know some of the guys on my team still haven't seen Dreams of My Real Father, but Rob, do you want to chime in on anything here with Joel?

02:07:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:07:35.000 Joel, I love the film, also.

02:07:36.000 I mean, I watched it.

02:07:37.000 It was very intriguing.

02:07:39.000 One of the things that I'm curious about is, what is your take, first of all, on Obama's grandfather, who knew Frank Marshall Davis?

02:07:44.000 I mean, he's a real interesting character.

02:07:46.000 And maybe I'd like to ask you about maybe something more that you may know about him, some information, because he's a very interesting character to me, how their relationship, Davis's relationship with Obama's grandfather, and the CPU essay, all that stuff.

02:08:02.000 Well, like so many things in Obama's book, Dreams for My Father, he uses misdirection to keep people from understanding the true story.

02:08:02.000 Sure.

02:08:10.000 He claimed that the grandfather was a furniture salesman.

02:08:15.000 And then he went to the University of California, Berkeley on the GI Bill to study for a career in furniture sales.

02:08:22.000 Maybe, I don't know.

02:08:24.000 But that's been proven false.

02:08:26.000 There's no evidence the grandfather was a furniture salesman.

02:08:30.000 In fact, I'm the first one to have pulled the transcript from the University of California, Berkeley of the grandfather.

02:08:37.000 And he did an intensive French language study course for one year and took some government courses.

02:08:44.000 Sure enough, now he's working next to major U.S.

02:08:47.000 Air Force bases everywhere they move, and then they move to Lebanon for a year.

02:08:52.000 We have the photo, we have all the evidence.

02:08:54.000 Then he goes to Seattle, and then the grandfather, Stanley Dunham, is in Hawaii while the family remained in Seattle.

02:09:02.000 He's the head of one of the people working on Project Airlift Africa.

02:09:06.000 So what I'm saying here is Stanley Dunham worked for the government, likely as a CIA agent, tracking Communist Party members after he left Lebanon.

02:09:18.000 In Hawaii, he welcomes Barack Obama the Kenyan to Hawaii.

02:09:23.000 We have the photo at Hickam Air Force Base at a military base.

02:09:27.000 government was bringing African students into the United States to study to compete with the Soviet Union, who opened something called People's Friendship University.

02:09:27.000 The U.S.

02:09:36.000 So America was trying to develop contacts and recruit future agents in these emerging African countries.

02:09:44.000 So the Kenyan Obama, and I call him the Kenyan Obama because people mistakenly refer to him as Barack Obama Sr., There's no senior because there's no junior.

02:09:56.000 They intentionally named the president when he was born Barack Obama II, which means another person.

02:10:04.000 He was not named Barack Obama Jr., which would be the normal thing if you named someone after a father.

02:10:10.000 There was no Obama family.

02:10:11.000 As I said, the Kenyan was just a sham marriage. 1.00

02:10:16.000 The grandfather was working for the government in this intelligence capacity and that's how this affair unfolded.

02:10:24.000 You have to see the film to understand how it all went down.

02:10:28.000 But all the evidence is in and I get hundreds of emails every day from people that see the film.

02:10:34.000 It's of course selling on your website, number one documentary on Amazon.

02:10:38.000 It's on Netflix now.

02:10:39.000 And I get it over and over.

02:10:41.000 People say, Just like you, they say, I've never, I watched it two, three times.

02:10:45.000 I don't know anyone that's watched it only once.

02:10:47.000 And they say good people don't like it when they've been lied to.

02:10:50.000 Number one.

02:10:52.000 Number two, they're furious that the media has refused to cover this story.

02:10:57.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:10:58.000 Joel, I want to ask.

02:10:59.000 That's one thing.

02:10:59.000 Let me jump in here because my question for you is what has been some of the harshest critics that you've had about the film?

02:11:07.000 I mean the film's done well on Amazon.

02:11:09.000 It's been doing very well here on the Infowars site.

02:11:13.000 What's the harshest criticisms that you've had with the film or from media in general?

02:11:19.000 What kind of criticism have people said?

02:11:22.000 There's two ways of criticizing the film.

02:11:25.000 Number one is completely ignoring it, refusing to even report on the findings or on the film itself.

02:11:31.000 That's gone on quite a lot.

02:11:33.000 The second way is simply they've just dismissed the film as, oh, it must be another conspiracy without even looking at the content.

02:11:42.000 So, the criticism, there is no criticism, I wish there was legitimate criticism that they would look at it and look at the evidence and compare my film, my dreams, to Obama's dreams.

02:11:53.000 And if they did, they all say that Obama's dreams is a fairy tale, it's nonsense.

02:11:59.000 And your dreams is the real history with all the documentation backing it up.

02:12:04.000 Well, I mean, they'd have to not.

02:12:05.000 The only way they could criticize the film is if they haven't seen it.

02:12:07.000 If you look at them, I mean, the similarities.

02:12:11.000 I mean, it's there.

02:12:12.000 I mean, yeah, I mean, that's it's it's you can't criticize the film terribly, because if you see the film, you just look at him.

02:12:20.000 Look at him, Rob.

02:12:21.000 Yeah, they look pretty much the same.

02:12:23.000 And you also mentioned in the film that Obama had a nose job at one point in his life.

02:12:28.000 I'm very curious about that.

02:12:29.000 Could you elaborate on that?

02:12:30.000 Oh, sure.

02:12:31.000 Actually, on our website, obamasrealfather.com, there's a new feature that just went out four hours ago.

02:12:37.000 I finally got some testimony from two noted plastic surgeons that went through all the details.

02:12:44.000 What you see when you see my film, Dreams from My Real Father, You see Obama growing up having a large, wide, flaring nose, very similar to his real father, Frank Marshall Davis.

02:12:56.000 By 2002, he's looking like this fitting image.

02:13:00.000 2003, 2004, he's got this big nose like his dad.

02:13:04.000 All of a sudden, 2006, 2005, he decides to run for U.S.

02:13:10.000 Senate, a national office, and he shows up with his new sleek nose.

02:13:14.000 It's a completely different nose.

02:13:16.000 So, he's been involved in a pattern of document forgery, photographic forgery, and now face forgery to hide the fact that Frank Marshall Davis is his real biological father, which would reveal that he lied about his background.

02:13:33.000 And even worse, it would reveal that the ideological connection to a classic Stalinist Marxist propagandist, and everyone would put together, connect all the dots of his life history, Project Vote, suing Citibank, representing Acorn, and forcing them to lower their lending standards.

02:13:52.000 A lot of people know about this, but Obama represented Acorn.

02:13:56.000 He forced Citibank to lend to minorities, even if they weren't qualified.

02:14:00.000 This is 1995.

02:14:02.000 And then Acorn wormed their way into the Clinton administration through Henry Cisneros and Bill Clinton forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to lower the lending standards of all the banks across the US system in the late 90s.

02:14:16.000 This eventually collapsed The financial system by 2008, and it was all by design.

02:14:22.000 This is what Obama learned at the socialist conference as he attended, to use minorities and use black people.

02:14:28.000 That was the goal, to collapse capitalism.

02:14:31.000 And that's the MO of these socialist Marxists out of Chicago.

02:14:35.000 They use different groups promising, we're going to take the money from the rich people and give you all this free stuff.

02:14:42.000 But it's a complete nonsense this ideology that the top 1% are oppressing everybody else.

02:14:50.000 If you built a business, you didn't do it.

02:14:51.000 It was on the backs of the proletariat. 0.80

02:14:53.000 This is utter nonsense and it's failed.

02:14:57.000 Everywhere in Europe that they've tried this Marxist economic government control, it results in economic ruin and the physical destruction.

02:15:05.000 Yeah, it's part of their agenda, Joel.

02:15:07.000 You didn't make that film, Joel.

02:15:09.000 Your government made that film.

02:15:10.000 I built it on the backs of someone else.

02:15:12.000 That's right.

02:15:13.000 The socialists, even though Obama now says, I'm going to help middle class families, middle class, middle class family.

02:15:18.000 The socialists use them as pawns, just like they use minorities.

02:15:23.000 Just like Obama said, they hate the middle class because they cling to their guns and religion.

02:15:28.000 So what you'll see if Obama is reelected, by the end of his second term, all the middle class health care will be given away to poor and illegals. 0.85

02:15:37.000 Middle classes, business, all their employers will be taxed and regulated out of business.

02:15:43.000 And you'll see that the middle class retirement savings will just evaporate into a bankrupt socialist state.

02:15:50.000 And America will be irreversibly socialist and the middle class will disappear. 0.55

02:15:56.000 And that's what they want.

02:15:57.000 They despise the middle class because they know it supports the free market system.

02:16:02.000 Amazing.

02:16:03.000 It's just, you know, Alex is always saying this, Rob.

02:16:06.000 Truth is stranger than fiction.

02:16:08.000 You cannot make this stuff up.

02:16:11.000 We are live, our guest, Joel Gilbert, the film Dreams of My Real Father.

02:16:15.000 You can order that film by calling 888-253-3139.

02:16:20.000 You gotta check this film out, folks.

02:16:22.000 It's very, very powerful, very compelling, and you know...

02:16:27.000 Last night on Moneybomb, it was the birth certificate.

02:16:31.000 Tonight it's Who's Your Daddy on Moneybomb here.

02:16:35.000 If you want to, maybe, Joel, is it alright, maybe, can we take some phone calls, maybe open up the phone lines a little?

02:16:39.000 Let's do it.

02:16:40.000 Russell, I'd like to point out that the importance of either the birth certificate or Who's My Daddy is the thing is that we don't know who Obama is.

02:16:47.000 Yeah.

02:16:47.000 To this day, I mean, we have a guy in the office, he's, you know, the president, and we don't even know his history.

02:16:53.000 Like, what?

02:16:54.000 I mean, if this doesn't raise red flags for people who maybe are just tuning in now and don't know the subject that well, well, maybe it should.

02:17:00.000 Maybe it should start raising red flags because there have been so many documentaries.

02:17:04.000 There's Joel's documentary.

02:17:05.000 There's our documentary, Obama Deception, that also, I mean, to this day we have people saying that we called it even before.

02:17:12.000 Who is the guy?

02:17:12.000 Where did he come from?

02:17:14.000 Out of the blue, so fast, out of nowhere.

02:17:16.000 No one had heard of him outside of Chicagoland.

02:17:20.000 And, you know, here he comes with all this finance and just, it's just amazing.

02:17:25.000 We still don't know who this guy is.

02:17:27.000 To call in tonight, if you'd like to call in and ask Joel some questions here on the film.

02:17:33.000 Dreams are my real father.

02:17:34.000 If you have a question for Rob or I, 877-789-ALEX, 877-789-2539.

02:17:40.000 We'll open up the phone lines and maybe take a few calls.

02:17:43.000 And, yeah, just who is this guy?

02:17:47.000 And Joel, yeah, and Joel also, I mean, you mentioned the Ayers. 0.80

02:17:52.000 You mentioned Bill Ayers and Bill Ayers' dad.

02:17:54.000 And we have, you know, we know Bill Ayers is part of the Weather Underground.

02:17:59.000 Yeah.

02:18:00.000 Actual terrorist.

02:18:01.000 He bombed buildings in this country.

02:18:03.000 He killed people, you know. 0.97

02:18:05.000 And he's an actual legitimate terrorist. 0.98

02:18:07.000 And here Obama is. 0.95

02:18:08.000 He knows him.

02:18:08.000 And he's like, well, I knew him after he finished.

02:18:11.000 How is Obama connected with the Ayers' family?

02:18:15.000 And how is he connected with the Weather Underground and, you know, all of that?

02:18:19.000 Well it started with when Obama was in New York when he was 21, 22.

02:18:24.000 He meets Bill Ayers in Manhattan at an event sponsored by the May 19 Communist Organization.

02:18:30.000 I detail this in the film.

02:18:32.000 May 19 was an above ground front group for the weather underground and they did above ground activities but they supported the weather underground.

02:18:40.000 May 19 would funnel their best recruits into the weather underground.

02:18:43.000 They were still bombing Uh, buildings, they were robbing, uh, the Brinks robbery in 1981.

02:18:49.000 Uh, we don't know how deep Obama's involvement is, but when he said the Weather Underground bombing campaign started when he was 8 years old, well, yeah, it started when he was 8 years old, but it continued well into his 20s.

02:19:02.000 But, Joe, that, that's like me saying, you know, hey, I know that guy was a serial killer when I was only, uh, 6 or 7, but he doesn't do that anymore and he's my friend and now I'm 20, you know?

02:19:12.000 Does that even make sense?

02:19:14.000 Let me tell you the first proven connection is that Bill Ayers' father, Thomas Ayers, got a $25,000 grant from the Woods Fund to bring Obama from New York to Chicago to head up this thing called the Developing Communities Project.

02:19:29.000 The communist organizations in Chicago had been trying to recruit the black churches into their organizations for several years with no success because the black folks were religious people and they rejected communism because it was atheist.

02:19:43.000 So Bill Ayers and his father decided they needed a front man with a black face and they might be able to trick these black churches into joining with these socialist causes like collapsing capitalism and Forcing banks to lend to people that weren't qualified. 0.90

02:20:00.000 So that's what brought Obama from New York to Chicago.

02:20:04.000 Bill Air's father.

02:20:05.000 And then they continued to nurture his career over the entire period.

02:20:09.000 Made him head of the Woods Fund at some point.

02:20:11.000 Foundations.

02:20:13.000 Promoted his political career.

02:20:16.000 Who is Bill Air's father?

02:20:18.000 Thomas Ayers, he was the head of, he was a big corporate guy, he was the head of Con Edison, and headed up many, many organizations.

02:20:26.000 He was a major power broker in Chicago for many, many years.

02:20:30.000 Yeah, through Beryl Ayers as father, and Stanley Dunham, is it fair to say, I mean, Joel, that Obama was set up to run for Congress and maybe later be president?

02:20:41.000 Do you feel like he was set up or placed on that pedestal for these guys?

02:20:46.000 I think that these guys, the communist groups, are always looking for somebody and helping to promote a group of people, hoping that one of them can rise up and take power.

02:20:57.000 And Obama is someone that was on the fast track.

02:20:59.000 He had other backers.

02:21:01.000 Khalid al-Mansur was a former Black Panther and Islamist that worked with Waleed bin Talal, was a major donor to Harvard.

02:21:10.000 And they had a fund that they set up for these types of students and they funded Obama.

02:21:15.000 It's all come out now through Harvard.

02:21:17.000 Vernon Jarrett, Valerie Jarrett's father-in-law, was in contact with Khalid Al-Mansur.

02:21:23.000 Don't forget Jarrett is a friend of Obama's father from back in the day.

02:21:27.000 And they fund Obama's academic career at Harvard.

02:21:31.000 Obama comes back to Chicago and the Arab funding network that funded Obama's education, the academic funding network, they hand Obama off To Tony Resco, which is the Arab political funding network.

02:21:45.000 So Obama's entire career has been funded by Middle Eastern interests.

02:21:49.000 All the way from academia through his political career.

02:21:53.000 He's admitted it, it's on the record.

02:21:55.000 And this whole gang is all together.

02:21:58.000 You have to remember that Marxists and Islamists have one thing in common. 0.93

02:22:03.000 It's always united them in the short term.

02:22:06.000 They both believe that American capitalism and free markets Prevent them from taking power, and therefore our enemy that must be destroyed.

02:22:15.000 So this is the nexus between Islamists and Marxists, and these are the people that supported Obama all these years, and you can certainly look at Obama's policies in office and understand the background and why he's going in these directions.

02:22:29.000 It's all in my film.

02:22:30.000 Joel, let's go ahead and go to the phone lines.

02:22:32.000 We'll go to Chris in Boston, Mike in Los Angeles, and Scott in Denver.

02:22:37.000 Chris in Boston, you're on the air with our guest Joel Gilbert.

02:22:41.000 Hey Joel, hey Russell, great job guys.

02:22:43.000 I just wanted to bring something up, not to throw a wrench in everything you're talking about, but I wanted to get Joel's opinion on if he's ever come across any evidence that Malcolm X was possibly the biological father and Anne Dunham wasn't the biological mother at all of Barack.

02:22:59.000 No, that rumor's been out there.

02:23:01.000 Obama admired Malcolm X, studied his speeches, some of his cadence, admired a lot about him.

02:23:08.000 But he's definitely, there's no opportunity or was no opportunity for Malcolm X to have had a relationship with Obama's mother.

02:23:15.000 It's very well documented now that the real father was Frank Marshall Davis.

02:23:19.000 Obama was raised by Davis, called him Pop.

02:23:23.000 And all the evidence is in my film.

02:23:25.000 There's no way it was Malcolm X. People thought that because some of his speech cadence was similar, but Obama did study his speech for a long time and was a fan, but there is no relationship.

02:23:38.000 The possibility that Ann Dunham wasn't his real biological mother, that she was just used as a... Do you feel sorry that she was definitely his biological mother?

02:23:47.000 Absolutely.

02:23:48.000 Anne was the mother, and the father was not the Kenyan, it was Frank Marshall Davis, the man who raised him.

02:23:55.000 And when you see my film, I think you'll agree.

02:23:59.000 Alright, let's go to Mike in Los Angeles.

02:24:03.000 Welcome to the show, Mike.

02:24:04.000 Oh, yes, Joe, how you doing?

02:24:06.000 How's it going?

02:24:06.000 You got a question for Joel Gilbert.

02:24:08.000 Yeah, my question is, is there any actual record of Obama ever having an actual job?

02:24:13.000 Like a regular guy?

02:24:15.000 Like just a real job?

02:24:17.000 Well, I think he worked at Baskin and Robbins.

02:24:19.000 We know that.

02:24:20.000 I spoke to a lady when I was in Hawaii that bought ice cream from him.

02:24:23.000 So we know that.

02:24:25.000 And, you know, he's worked for these socialist organizations in the U.S.

02:24:29.000 government, essentially.

02:24:32.000 And he has no background in economics, in managing a budget, in Understanding how economics and businesses are built.

02:24:44.000 His sole experience is in demanding that the government give money to minorities and different groups of people.

02:24:52.000 It's extracting money from the man and paying it to others.

02:24:57.000 That's his life experience.

02:25:00.000 Amazing, amazing.

02:25:02.000 Thank you for your call, Mike.

02:25:03.000 Let's go to Scott Free in Denver.

02:25:05.000 It is Who's Your Daddy night here on InfoWars Moneybomb.

02:25:09.000 Our guest, Joel Gilbert.

02:25:10.000 What's going on there, Scott Free in Denver?

02:25:14.000 Just another beautiful night in alien America.

02:25:17.000 Welcome to the program.

02:25:18.000 You got a question or shout out for Joel Gilbert here.

02:25:21.000 Joel, you're doing some wonderful work as well as the team of InfoWars.com and everybody out there listening.

02:25:28.000 My question for Joel is, what do you think Obama's ties to radical Islam are?

02:25:35.000 Well, Obama had an Islamic education at a very young age, from about age 7, 8, 9.

02:25:44.000 Six, seven, eight, nine.

02:25:46.000 Those are some very formative years when he was studying the Koran, when he was in an Islamic school, when he was registered as a Muslim.

02:25:53.000 So there's no question that that had a profound effect on his worldview, on his ethics, on how he sees religion and sees different groups of people.

02:26:03.000 When you look at how He was supported, as I mentioned, academically and politically by Middle Eastern groups and all his friends, Rashid Khalidi, all his identification with these groups of people.

02:26:19.000 You have to ask, and maybe this explains why Obama is so comfortable around anti-american extremists and it explains why anti-american extremists are so comfortable with him.

02:26:31.000 He definitely has a cultural and understanding if not a religious devotion to Islam or the Islamic worldview and he's well versed, very well versed in it.

02:26:45.000 I can tell in his speech the way he pronounces Taliban, Pakistan, Quran, all of his cadence And his, the view that he expressed in Cairo of the world was an Islamist view.

02:26:59.000 It identified closely with how they see the world.

02:27:01.000 Very amazing, very amazing.

02:27:03.000 Joel, listen, we've got to wrap things, I've got to jump, I've got to get to Luke Rodowski.

02:27:06.000 I want to thank you, our guests this evening here on InfoWarsMoneyBomb.

02:27:10.000 Joel Gilbert, the film.

02:27:11.000 Dreams from my real father.

02:27:13.000 You pick this film up on theinfowarsstore.com and order the film.

02:27:18.000 It'd be a great way to contribute to the InfoWars organization and get yourself a hold of this film.

02:27:24.000 Get by this film and share it with your neighbors, share it with your church members, share it with family members because this film is a very powerful film and it tells you a little bit more about the guy who's running for re-election this November.

02:27:39.000 Joel, thank you so much for being part of the show tonight.

02:27:41.000 Thank you very much, man.

02:27:42.000 Thanks for having me.

02:27:43.000 You bet.

02:27:44.000 There he goes, Joel Gilbert.

02:27:45.000 Very powerful film, Rob.

02:27:48.000 I really dig this film, and it's done very well here at the InfoWars store.

02:27:52.000 And guys, you've got to pick this film up.

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02:28:00.000 And I have to remind everybody that Dreams For My Real Father goes great with Obama Deception.

02:28:05.000 I mean, both films cover two totally different aspects of Obama, the Obama administration, all that stuff.

02:28:13.000 I mean, watch Obama Deception alongside with Dreams For My Real Father so you can see where he's coming from, what he has done.

02:28:21.000 Accurately predicted.

02:28:23.000 I mean, before Obama was in office, we knew exactly what he was going to do.

02:28:28.000 We called it, and he did it.

02:28:29.000 He's been a flip-flopper since.

02:28:30.000 Flip-flopper.

02:28:31.000 I mean, he's just basically a puppet for the bank, so you can find out basically the InfoWars...

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02:29:04.000 I'll definitely clear up for people like what's going wrong with this country right now or at least it will begin for a lot of people once they see away from the mainstream media take on the president which is not a it's just a pure fiction I mean it's totally like you know we're a bunch of people in a fishbowl and they're messing with us you know and and You can get away from that by watching these films, our film, Dreams from My Real Father.

02:29:31.000 These are excellent tools to basically get you away or get your family members away from the mainstream rhetoric and their take on what we're living through right now.

02:29:42.000 You know, and we're going to take a quick break and we'll come back on the other side with Luke Radowski.

02:29:47.000 If we are changing New York, we're going to talk about some of the media coverage that Luke's been covering.

02:29:51.000 Take a really quick break.

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02:30:00.000 Up later in the program we're going to have on the Money Bomb tonight later Richard Reeves and Pharmacist Ben Fuchs will be on and Jakari Jackson will be on taking some phone calls from you guys so let's go ahead and take a quick real quick break and we'll be back on the other side of this break here with Luke Radowski.

02:30:16.000 I'm Russell Dowden for InfoWars.com and InfoWars Magazine.

02:30:19.000 We'll be right back after this break.

02:30:21.000 We'll be right back.

02:30:51.000 and the killing of two policemen and a Brinks truck guard.

02:30:55.000 Police found more floor plans of police stations and weapons as well as a list of policemen targeted for assassination.

02:31:02.000 Who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old.

02:31:07.000 When I was 8 years old.

02:31:10.000 A ground-bombing campaign started when I was eight years old, but it continued well into my twenties.

02:31:17.000 Another raid turned up plans for a widespread campaign of terrorism in the United States.

02:31:25.000 The Weathermen's Above-Ground Front Group, the May 19th communist organization, was based in New York City.

02:31:36.000 They, in turn, operated a host of front groups.

02:31:42.000 May 19 was a revolutionary Marxist organization fighting white imperialism, colonialism, and Zionism.

02:31:54.000 It was a path to earn my birthright as the secret son of Frank Marshall Davis.

02:32:01.000 I attended May 19 meetings, protests, and seminars.

02:32:08.000 Eight people have been directly linked by police to the October 20th holdup and murders that has apparently brought together four radical groups.

02:32:16.000 A bomb went off at the State Department early today and the weather underground claims responsibility.

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02:32:54.000 There's a need for a new world, oder? .

02:33:00.000 But it has different characteristics in different parts of the world.

02:33:08.000 Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.

02:33:14.000 Welcome back to InfoWars Money Bomber.

02:33:24.000 I'm Russell Dowden of InfoWars.com and InfoWars Magazine.

02:33:28.000 Riding shotgun with me is Rob Jacobson.

02:33:31.000 Hey Russell, how you doing?

02:33:33.000 Great to be here.

02:33:34.000 Alright, having a lot of fun here tonight and last night it was birth certificate, tonight it's who's your daddy?

02:33:43.000 Very interesting film, and I love that bumper that we have here with Kissinger.

02:33:49.000 It's so appropriate.

02:33:51.000 He's such a class act.

02:33:53.000 We're about to have Rudowski on, Luke Rudowski from We Are Change.

02:33:57.000 Obviously, if people have been watching, they might have seen one of his latest encounters with Kissinger, which was very interesting.

02:34:05.000 I hope to ask him about that, as well as other encounters.

02:34:08.000 Yeah, let's bring him right in, right from your neck of the woods, Rob, from New York.

02:34:14.000 Welcome to the program, Luke.

02:34:15.000 How you doing, man?

02:34:16.000 Hey, Rob and Russell.

02:34:17.000 Thanks for having me.

02:34:18.000 I really appreciate you guys having me on the guest on your show.

02:34:21.000 No, not a problem.

02:34:22.000 We appreciate you, buddy, and all the chasing down you're doing with these guys out there.

02:34:29.000 You've created a kind of a revolution of... I don't know what you want to call this, Luke, but it's, you know, guerrilla... I would call it modern day activism.

02:34:39.000 Yeah, it's called chasing down the story is what it's called.

02:34:42.000 Yeah, you're not just standing out there with picket signs and everything.

02:34:44.000 You're taking the camera and you're optimizing activism plus the technology.

02:34:48.000 I think it's great.

02:34:49.000 Yeah, I don't even know what to call it nowadays.

02:34:51.000 I don't know if it's activism or journalism, but being at the latest presidential debates here in New York and Hofstra, it definitely seems that asking tough questions is not what all the other supposed journalists were doing.

02:35:02.000 I mean, I was there and it was just incredible seeing no other reporter, no other journalist there asking or following up on very serious, legitimate questions.

02:35:13.000 It was very frightening.

02:35:15.000 Uh, you know, it's a good feeling knowing you're doing something good, but when you're in a room full of about a thousand reporters and you don't hear anything about the NDAA or Obama's secret kill list or all the horrible things, uh, that both Romney and Obama are really for, I mean, it's just, it's just really pathetic and it's just really sad and, and, you know, that's why independent journalism, independent media is on the rise and, uh, that's why it's great being able to, you know, be on your program here today.

02:35:42.000 Well, you know, Luke, you've been a real inspiration to a lot of people, too, over the years.

02:35:48.000 And, you know, here we are.

02:35:51.000 We're doing Moneybomb.

02:35:54.000 We're asking folks to help us out here at InfoWars and keep this operation going.

02:36:00.000 I remember just five years ago, Rob, when The first money bomb launched and being on the other side and I had, as soon as y'all launched, we launched PrisonPlanet.tv, I was a member, I was, I was, uh, you know, supporting that way, buying films, um, but, you know, now the operation has grown.

02:36:00.000 I'm amazed.

02:36:18.000 I'm amazed at how big this operation has grown, uh, just in the last five years, Luke.

02:36:24.000 Uh, what is, um, What does Money Bomb here and InfoWars mean to you?

02:36:28.000 And what has InfoWars.com meant to you in your young adult life so far, Luke?

02:36:34.000 I mean, InfoWars is a great resource, especially for information and articles.

02:36:39.000 If people like what they see, they should support it.

02:36:41.000 They should know if independent media is going to be successful, if it's going to become a going to the next step, which I believe it's still not there yet.

02:36:49.000 It's on the crust.

02:36:50.000 It's almost there.

02:36:51.000 Independent media, citizen, liberty-minded information, and just Real legitimate questioning of authority still is not on that level where it should be.

02:37:03.000 People online, all the viewers, all the audience, they should watch online and they should know that We can only survive.

02:37:10.000 We can only thrive.

02:37:11.000 We can only become better only with your support.

02:37:14.000 So it's up to the people listening to watch and to have their own discretion to take in as much information as they can, look into information, double-check sources, triple-check sources.

02:37:27.000 Be really vigilant, but also know that they have to stand behind them and support and be behind those organizations that are giving out the right information and are there for the people and not just for the big corporations or the big banks or the lobbyists or any industrial complex that is financing any side of the news because sadly we have seen that.

02:37:48.000 We have seen gross examples of mainstream media abusing their power, abusing Their trust of the public to pretty much become public relations campaigns sometimes and not do their job diligently.

02:38:04.000 The only true diligence out there is individuals out there themselves who are able to research things thoroughly and look at both sides of the issue and then make up their own mind.

02:38:17.000 Well, you know, you can see, Luke, just the growth that InfoWars and the impact InfoWars has had with the reports, with the nightly news, with this broadcast.

02:38:31.000 doing over the years.

02:38:32.000 We've been able to grow, folks, because of your contributions, because of the products that Alex believes in, and the products we have in offer in our stores, the films.

02:38:42.000 So, we're not perfect over here, we're not the best, but, you know, we're doing what we can, and I think we've done an excellent job, especially in recent years.

02:38:50.000 And what I'd like to remind everybody who is, you know, thanking everybody for contributing and who is thinking about contributing, is that as we improve and as we grow, our audience grows.

02:39:00.000 Which means that our message gets out there to a wider and wider audience.

02:39:03.000 And that's really the most important part, in my opinion, on why it's necessary to contribute to InfoWars.

02:39:10.000 Because what happens is, if we have a bigger audience, you never know who's in that audience.

02:39:15.000 10 million a week listening or 15 million.

02:39:18.000 Who knows who these people are listening and they're the ones who are going to eventually affect the change.

02:39:22.000 We're going to get the message out there to the biggest audience and we're going to affect the change.

02:39:27.000 We're going to help affect the change.

02:39:28.000 The audience will be the ones at the end of the day that will come together and affect the change.

02:39:35.000 You have lawyers out there, you have a police department, you have firefighters, doctors, you have all sorts of professions listening and they will take their resources and their skills as the audience grows and we can beat this thing, you know, we could turn it around.

02:39:50.000 Well, Luke, I do have a question for you.

02:39:52.000 I'm speaking here and it kind of reminds me.

02:39:55.000 There are a lot of young and new journalists that want to break into this and from We Are Change of the past, a lot of stuff that we've seen, confrontation from the past, a lot of times we've seen people just throw a lot of facts into these politicians' face when they have the opportunity to finally get up and speak to them.

02:40:14.000 And I'd like for you to talk to some of the new journalists out there and tell them some tips because you have successfully gotten a lot of politicians to answer your questions and maybe even put their foot in their mouth on the internet and I'd like you to to maybe explain to somebody who's about to bust in and try to do the journalist thing try to do the we are changed thing what is the best way to do it to get a politician to put their foot in their mouth on screen

02:40:42.000 I mean doing this for about seven years now the most the most important lesson that I have learned is that your will and your determination matters more than anything I mean, we started out, and we're still working here independently, solely, just for the people.

02:40:59.000 We haven't been bought out.

02:41:01.000 We don't work for any corporation.

02:41:02.000 We work for you.

02:41:04.000 We work to question authority and to gather as much information as we can for you.

02:41:09.000 The best thing to do is just to go You have to believe in it.

02:41:12.000 You have to have heart in it.

02:41:13.000 It is difficult.

02:41:14.000 It's not easy.

02:41:16.000 It's just about setting your goals and then reaching them.

02:41:19.000 I mean, one personal thing I did, I don't know if this helps or not, but I just made a list in my mind of what I wanted to do.

02:41:26.000 I set a goal.

02:41:27.000 I said I wanted to confront the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Kissingers, the Brzezinski. 1.00

02:41:33.000 I made that goal in my mind, and I wouldn't let nothing stand in my way.

02:41:37.000 And by that, you just have to grasp these things and go with it.

02:41:40.000 You can't ask for permission.

02:41:42.000 You can't wait for somebody to send you a press pass.

02:41:44.000 Go to Kinko's if you can.

02:41:46.000 But always remember, a job of an independent journalist is to question authority and not just to make statements.

02:41:53.000 It's also good to have all your sources, have all your facts, always double check, triple check, any amount of information that's out there.

02:42:00.000 Don't believe any one person, but the only thing that you're supposed to do is get the information out there.

02:42:05.000 You don't have to go to somebody and tell them, this is the truth, this is what's happening.

02:42:08.000 You could not only convince more people, but make people understand the truth more by asking questions.

02:42:15.000 Just by that simple act, you direct them to the truth.

02:42:17.000 See, the truth is simple, it's strong, and it will overcome any amount of lies, but it just has to be uncovered.

02:42:23.000 And the perfect way of uncovering it is speaking truth to power, and by asking legitimate questions, questioning that authority that is there, that is unquestioned right now.

02:42:33.000 You know, that's just awesome.

02:42:35.000 I was just watching the video.

02:42:36.000 You're chasing down Kissinger there and he's just like, ah, who is this guy?

02:42:41.000 I don't want to talk to this guy.

02:42:43.000 But no, that's just great.

02:42:45.000 Great job, Luke, on all of that, man.

02:42:47.000 That's just phenomenal.

02:42:48.000 That Kissinger video, he gives you this hysterical response.

02:42:52.000 It was kind of like you caught him with his pants down.

02:42:54.000 He didn't know what to say.

02:42:57.000 The first video or the second video?

02:42:58.000 Because I got him a second time where I talked about Memorandum 200.

02:43:01.000 That's the one I'm talking about.

02:43:03.000 The second one is the one we just showed up on screen.

02:43:06.000 The first one he was a little bit more timid.

02:43:08.000 The second one he actually recognized me. 0.99

02:43:10.000 But the first one is also really good where he knowingly lied and said that famous quote of his where he said military men are dumb stupid animals which Bob Woodward, one of the Watergate journalists exposed. 0.99

02:43:22.000 He knowingly lied to me and told me that was not true. 0.99

02:43:26.000 And then he knew, like, he recognized me the second time.

02:43:29.000 He was looking at me from afar.

02:43:31.000 The press secretary already set up a one-on-one interview and he kept walking away.

02:43:35.000 And the press secretary was like, hey, go talk to, you know, hey, Kissinger.

02:43:38.000 And he was just running away, so I just decided to go with it anyway and to question him.

02:43:43.000 It is kind of scary going into these situations, being able to look someone Who has committed mass murder.

02:43:50.000 I mean, it's not only out in the open.

02:43:52.000 He's wanted for war crimes in many countries.

02:43:54.000 And it's just a very kind of intimidating, kind of scary feeling.

02:43:58.000 But once you overcome that, once you overcome that fear, and I think that's where the true solutions and the true answers are to a lot of our problems, is just overcoming that fear.

02:44:07.000 Once you do that, and you look them right in the eyes, you understand that that problem, That evilness is nothing.

02:44:15.000 It is just as human as you are, and it's just as weak or as strong as anybody wants it to be.

02:44:21.000 It's really our own interpretation, and once you're able to speak to that person and let them know you're a human being, you're just as evil, we know what you're doing, they have nothing else to do except run away or flip out, which you saw Kissinger do twice.

02:44:35.000 Yeah, you see Kissinger run away from you in that video.

02:44:37.000 He's like, bye.

02:44:38.000 Hey Luke, we've got about three minutes left in the program.

02:44:41.000 Let's go to one more caller if we can.

02:44:43.000 There's a Steve in New York.

02:44:45.000 If Steve's still there, let's go to your neck of the woods up there, Luke, and bring Steve on.

02:44:50.000 Steve, if you're there, Steve, you're on the air with Luke Radowski.

02:44:53.000 Yeah, I'm here from Astoria, Queens, New York.

02:44:56.000 Luke, we've been around together a few times.

02:45:01.000 Bilderberg twice, 9-11, you even hit your You even hid your camera from Giuliani in my pocket.

02:45:11.000 Remember that?

02:45:13.000 I think so, yeah.

02:45:14.000 I had many of those moments.

02:45:18.000 Anyway, listen, let me ask you a question.

02:45:22.000 Which is the top Well, that's a really great, great, amazing question.

02:45:26.000 Which person is a top, top of your list that you would like to confront and why?

02:45:31.000 Well, that's a really great, great, amazing question.

02:45:36.000 I think the only person that I really didn't get, I mean, we got Obama slightly, but it probably has to be George W. Bush or even higher, maybe even going to the Queen of England or the royalty in the U.K., I mean, there's still so many things that I want to uncover and I want to find out about.

02:45:58.000 It's really hard.

02:45:59.000 That's one of the hardest questions that I've been personally asked, but I can't even answer that to be honest with you.

02:46:07.000 I guess you can narrate it down to the Queen of England, to George W. Bush.

02:46:11.000 I think George W. Bush would be amazing.

02:46:12.000 We already have Dick Cheney.

02:46:14.000 People could also see that on our YouTube channel if they just go to YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChange.

02:46:20.000 But that's one of the most difficult questions I've ever had.

02:46:23.000 I'll go with Bush.

02:46:25.000 Right on, right on.

02:46:28.000 Thanks for your call, Steve.

02:46:28.000 We've got to wrap things up with Luke here on our show.

02:46:32.000 God, an hour flies by like that.

02:46:34.000 I need to do like two hours of this.

02:46:35.000 This is too much fun.

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02:46:43.000 Luke, it's been a lot of fun doing this.

02:46:46.000 Any final thoughts here on Money Bomb 2012 here at InfoWars?

02:46:49.000 Best of luck with everything.

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02:47:23.000 Thanks for having me.

02:47:24.000 All right, there he goes.

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02:47:27.000 Wow.

02:47:27.000 Man, Money Bomb 2012.

02:47:30.000 Wow.

02:47:32.000 I don't even want to get off here, but up next, I gotta tell you who's coming up, guys.

02:47:37.000 Up next, Richard Reeves and Ben Fuchs.

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02:47:45.000 This is going to be open lines here with Ja'Kari.

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02:47:52.000 You're welcome, Russell.

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02:48:46.000 Anilin Jones.

02:48:48.000 Jones.

02:48:48.000 Who's John?

02:48:49.000 Jones.

02:48:50.000 Jones.

02:48:50.000 National Security Advisor for Obama, Jones, says he takes the daily orders from you.

02:48:54.000 He gave that talk at CFR.

02:48:56.000 But I just want to know, are you still giving out orders like Memorandum 200, where you said depopulation should be held?

02:49:02.000 Sir, just a question.

02:49:03.000 I'm not going to go to hell, because... Memorandum 200, sir.

02:49:06.000 Memorandum 200.

02:49:07.000 Just ask them a question.

02:49:12.000 About Memorandum 200 that he wrote in April 24, 1974.

02:49:15.000 It's an honest question.

02:49:19.000 Kissinger, Memorandum 200.

02:49:21.000 Depopulation.

02:49:23.000 We're on topic now.

02:49:24.000 We came here, we gave you the access.

02:49:26.000 You want to burn bridges, you can do that.

02:49:27.000 I don't want to burn any bridges.

02:49:29.000 I wasn't disrespectful.

02:49:31.000 I wasn't accusatory.

02:49:32.000 It was a serious question.

02:49:33.000 We're on topic.

02:49:34.000 Okay.

02:49:35.000 I understand that.

02:49:35.000 So, what about the depopulation?

02:49:37.000 I mean, Memorandum 200.

02:49:39.000 Why are you afraid to talk about your depopulation plan?

02:49:42.000 Why don't you get lost?

02:49:43.000 Why should I get lost?

02:49:44.000 It's serious. 1.00

02:49:44.000 You're a sick person. 1.00

02:49:47.000 How am I sick? 0.99

02:49:48.000 sake you have a one coming i was wondering as a journalist what do you think of president obama using the espionage act against journalists and whistleblowers more than all the other presidents before him combined pretty much stopping and creating a chilling effect on journalists who want to yesterday out of course we could do a bunch Creating a chilling effect on journalists who really want to expose different stories.

02:50:16.000 He used it against a New York Times author.

02:50:18.000 How do you feel about Obama's behavior towards journalism from his acts?

02:50:25.000 Uh, it's not something I know a lot about.

02:50:28.000 Everything you've just raised is not something I know a lot about.

02:50:30.000 I gotta go out this way.

02:50:32.000 You always raise stuff that I don't know much about.

02:50:35.000 This is one of those things.

02:50:36.000 I like bringing up things like that because we, of course as journalists, we don't all know everything.

02:50:40.000 Right.

02:50:41.000 But I think, you know, let's say it's true.

02:50:44.000 Do you agree with Obama exactly?

02:50:48.000 I can't really get into it because I don't know the particulars of the cases.

02:50:51.000 I don't know how he's used it.

02:50:52.000 I don't know that he's used the Espionage Act.

02:50:57.000 I have read very little about it, so I'm only vaguely aware of it, so I can't really talk about things I'm vaguely aware of.

02:51:03.000 The NDAA?

02:51:04.000 What are your thoughts on the National Defense Authorization Act and his indefinite detention provisions, which he strictly said he wouldn't want and he wouldn't use, but now in a court of law is fighting to keep?

02:51:17.000 You know, I'm not sure about all of that stuff.

02:51:19.000 I don't have strong opinions about that.

02:51:21.000 I really don't.

02:51:24.000 I wonder if I could ask you a question on camera about journalism related to the Obama administration.

02:51:31.000 Whatever you like.

02:51:32.000 Obama has actually used the Espionage Act more than all the other presidents before him combined.

02:51:37.000 I don't know enough to answer your question.

02:51:38.000 The Espionage Act is against spies who are trying to hurt the U.S.

02:51:43.000 government and the United States.

02:51:45.000 Obama has used this more than all the other presidents combined against journalists and whistleblowers.

02:51:50.000 I don't know enough about it.

02:51:51.000 I know that there's a lawsuit involving a New York Times correspondent on this very point.

02:51:55.000 On the NDAA?

02:51:56.000 Yeah.

02:51:57.000 But I don't know enough to really give you a sophisticated answer, so I apologize.

02:52:00.000 Do you think it's fair for the Obama administration to be passing laws like the NDAA?

02:52:05.000 I don't.

02:52:06.000 As I said, if I knew more, I would give you an honest answer, but I'm not well enough informed.

02:52:09.000 Okay, these are very important issues.

02:52:10.000 You get a chance to look into them?

02:52:12.000 I will.

02:52:12.000 Thank you, Ron.

02:52:15.000 A journalist doesn't know about the persecution of journalists by the Obama administration.

02:52:19.000 And he works on Fox.

02:52:21.000 All right, new oil lawyer.

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02:55:10.000 Welcome, folks, to the 9 o'clock Central EM...

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02:55:37.000 Folks, I tell you what, I haven't been able to listen to all the broadcasts.

02:55:40.000 I don't know who possibly could and you just, unless you just stayed up and drank a lot of coffee and drank a lot of pollen bursts or something to be able to stay up all these hours.

02:55:48.000 But what I have heard of the Money Bomb I don't think there's another person in the world other than Alex Jones and this crew here, the InfoWars team crew, that could possibly put together a 48-hour marathon program like we've had.

02:56:04.000 It's been incredible.

02:56:05.000 You've heard some of the great guests, Greg Palast, we had Amber Lyon, Alex doing his thing like he always does, Max Kaiser, just Ben is ready.

02:56:16.000 Okay, thank you very much, folks.

02:56:18.000 Well, the money bomb is going well, folks, but we still need more donations if possible.

02:56:24.000 Alex has a high goal to get to another level.

02:56:31.000 Folks, you've seen Alex progress over the years, one level onto the next, started out with a handful of employees, now he's got a staff and crew of 50.

02:56:40.000 There's no other group that is going Head-on against the New World Order than right here, this crew of the InfoWars crew that is here on this premises working hard to bring you world-changing and world-breaking news all the time, every day.

02:57:01.000 It's amazing.

02:57:02.000 If you go to InfoWars.com and the news that just pours out on that website on a daily basis, it's just incredible to try to keep up with all of the things that the New World Order does.

02:57:12.000 And how do they do it?

02:57:13.000 Very simple.

02:57:15.000 One of the big, major keys they have is the fiat money system, the Federal Reserve and the World Bank, where poof, just like that, at a touch of a keypad, they can create trillions of dollars at will, on demand, and that's how they can have this level of control and implement all of these worldwide global systems.

02:57:35.000 So folks, If we do nothing, which I know a lot of folks, their idea is, hey, I'm just going to punch out of their system somehow and everything's going to be fine.

02:57:46.000 I'm here to tell you the New World Order is not going to allow that to happen.

02:57:51.000 That's why it is called the New World Order because they're all over the world and they will implement their system ultimately all over the world unless we the people stand up and fight back and not allow it to happen.

02:58:05.000 And it's really not that hard for us to fight them.

02:58:07.000 All we have to do now with the advent of the internet is share Infowars.com.

02:58:13.000 Share videos.

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02:58:16.000 Send them out to your friends.

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02:58:26.000 Send them an issue about GMO crops, GMO food, depleted soil.

02:58:29.000 Send them a story about that.

02:58:31.000 Somebody's interested about medicine, medical stuff like vaccinations, forced vaccines, things like that.

02:58:36.000 Send them a video about that.

02:58:37.000 Find out what it is that Interest the people you're talking with and you're dealing with and send them those types of stories.

02:58:46.000 One thing I've learned from many years being involved in the Infowar is not everybody's interested about every battle.

02:58:53.000 Everybody's got certain battles they focus on.

02:58:55.000 I used to really focus on toll roads here locally.

02:58:57.000 I wished I still could but now it's like I've gone to another level with Alex bringing me in here in the office and doing other work for him.

02:59:04.000 So as much as I'd like to still be out there fighting on the toll road issues, well, that's kind of gone away.

02:59:09.000 And now we have to have some other people fill in the gap.

02:59:11.000 God blesses us somehow with people that are passionate for every issue.

02:59:16.000 That's like you've heard people that are passionate about the fluoride issue in the water.

02:59:20.000 And they're sitting there fighting to get fluoride extracted from the water.

02:59:23.000 And I applaud those.

02:59:25.000 And that's what we need is we need groups that are passionate and people that are passionate and focused on some of these single issues.

02:59:31.000 Because that's how you make real progress on fighting these issues.

02:59:35.000 When gun groups get together and fight anti-gun legislation and fight legislation and other bills and other infringements of the Second Amendment, then that's how they're victorious. 0.74

02:59:47.000 If they stay with a single focus that's at least focused on the Second Amendment issues, then that's how they start winning.

02:59:54.000 It's when you have these Groups that try to go off into other areas sometimes that they don't have that level of success.

03:00:00.000 So it's kind of a strange dichotomy where we all have to work together on certain things and certain goals.

03:00:05.000 But then on other goals we have to focus in at a more microscopic level and forsake the macro.

03:00:12.000 So it's it's a give and take on that.

03:00:14.000 But slowly but surely we're getting bigger.

03:00:17.000 And bigger and bigger every time, every year, every election, we have more influence.

03:00:22.000 All right, we have our guest Ben Fuchs coming on.

03:00:26.000 Hopefully we've got that Skype connection.

03:00:28.000 I've been advised that he is connected with Skype.

03:00:30.000 And so let's bring Ben on, Pharmacist Ben.

03:00:34.000 He is on the GCNlive.com radio network.

03:00:37.000 He's heard daily, Monday through Friday.

03:00:40.000 From 10 a.m.

03:00:41.000 Central till 11.

03:00:42.000 That's the hour right before the Alex Jones Show and he does a great job of talking about health.

03:00:48.000 He's a product formulator, not just a pharmacist, but a product formulator as well and he can explain more to us about how that works.

03:00:57.000 But he is really super knowledgeable about health.

03:01:00.000 He studies it and studies it.

03:01:01.000 You know how I was talking about people being passionate about certain things.

03:01:05.000 Well, Ben is really passionate about the formulation of products.

03:01:09.000 Being a pharmacist, he's really passionate about getting people healthy.

03:01:13.000 So without further ado, let me welcome Ben Fugates.

03:01:15.000 Ben, how are you doing?

03:01:17.000 Good to hear from you, Richard.

03:01:18.000 I can't see you though, but it's good to hear your voice.

03:01:21.000 All right, Ben.

03:01:22.000 Well, I am able to see you, so that's working fine, and you're coming through really good.

03:01:26.000 Your video's really great.

03:01:27.000 Could be.

03:01:28.000 Ben, I'll tell you what, we had a variety of topics that you wanted to hit and that I'd like to hit as well, and one of the big things that

03:01:37.000 I think our audience doesn't hear enough about is about digestive tract issues and how if for some reason, you know, they're taking supplements and they're trying to eat good food and trying to really be healthy on their diet, that if you don't have your digestive tract working and in order, you're just not going to get the nutrition that you need out of whatever it is you're eating or drinking, right?

03:01:59.000 That is so true.

03:02:00.000 You know, one out of three Americans is dealing with some kind of digestive issue.

03:02:04.000 That is a hundred million Americans nearly.

03:02:06.000 I think the last statistic I saw was 95 million Americans have some kind of digestive issue and you hit the nail right on the head, buddy.

03:02:14.000 It doesn't matter what you take.

03:02:15.000 In the world of nutrition, we say it's not what you take, it's what you absorb.

03:02:19.000 And if you're dealing with any kind of digestive tract issue, you're not going to get the maximum benefits out of your supplements and breakdown is going to be inevitable.

03:02:27.000 But here's the real scary thing, Richard.

03:02:29.000 We become transparent to our digestive issues.

03:02:34.000 We don't even realize we have them.

03:02:36.000 That's why I always instruct people, if you're dealing with any kind of health crisis, get yourself a little notebook and jot down everything you eat and next to Next to where you put everything you eat, put down how you feel an hour, two hours, three hours, four hours later, what your bowel movements are like, if you have any digestive cramps, how you are reacting to that food, and for most people, they will be stunned at what they find out.

03:03:01.000 And you know what the really sad thing about this whole thing is, Richard?

03:03:03.000 It starts as soon, for most of us, it starts as soon as we come out of the womb.

03:03:09.000 Human beings are born With premature digestive systems and immune systems.

03:03:14.000 That's because we have big heads and we have big brains.

03:03:17.000 And so we have to come out of the womb early because our brains are too big.

03:03:22.000 So we come out of the womb a little bit early and nature has designed a system where our digestive tract and our immune system will be built up by human mother's milk, by breast milk.

03:03:35.000 And if a mom is not breastfeeding or a mom is not That's exactly why I want to talk about this, because you just nailed it. 0.76

03:03:40.000 Right from day one, folks.

03:03:41.000 and nutritionally complete herself and her breast milk is deficient, that baby is going to be compromised at the digestive tract and at the immune system level from day one.

03:03:51.000 And, Richard, that covers a good deal of Americans.

03:03:54.000 I would venture to say that covers most Americans.

03:03:58.000 Right, and that's exactly why I want to talk about this, because you just nailed it.

03:04:02.000 Rise from day one, folks.

03:04:03.000 Rise from day one, folks.

03:04:03.000 Day one.

03:04:06.000 The majority of us, the majority of us, probably 70%, 80% of us, Who knows what percentage?

03:04:12.000 Boom, start off right there with not getting your digestive tract working in order.

03:04:17.000 So we're so accustomed to poor digestive tract function.

03:04:22.000 We just think that's it.

03:04:22.000 We don't know any better.

03:04:24.000 We don't know any better.

03:04:24.000 We think that's the way it is.

03:04:26.000 We think that's the way life is.

03:04:27.000 Yes, yes, exactly.

03:04:30.000 Yeah, well, no, Richard.

03:04:31.000 Richard, it gets worse because then the kid gets put on the standard American diet.

03:04:37.000 Then the kid, as soon as he's weaned off of milk, is put on oatmeal, and he's put on cereal, and he's put on Gerber's pulverized crapple.

03:04:45.000 I don't know, whatever they put in Gerbers these days.

03:04:47.000 So from day one he's compromised, but then it tumbles out of control to the point where by the time the kid is 8 or 9 years old, he's dealing with such a clogged up immune system that the doctors, in their brilliance and wisdom, will remove a hunk out of their immune system.

03:05:02.000 They call it a tonsillectomy, and it's the number one childhood surgical procedure in the country.

03:05:07.000 And that's the way they resolve this toxicity that builds up in the kid by the time he's 8 or 12 years old, and it just gets worse from there.

03:05:15.000 Wow, and so that's why we see the manifestation of obese children nowadays.

03:05:18.000 You know, they're 5, 6, 7 years old and already on their way to being 50% over their body weight.

03:05:26.000 And as the years go by and roll by, it just makes it worse and worse and worse.

03:05:30.000 So that's why I think this topic was so important.

03:05:32.000 And Ben has got a host of topics that we're going to touch on.

03:05:35.000 But that aspect of the digestive tract is so important.

03:05:40.000 I'll tell you, that's one thing I didn't know is from day one, you're saying if they at least are not being properly fed with mother's breast milk, human mother's breast milk.

03:05:49.000 For long enough.

03:05:50.000 And for long enough.

03:05:51.000 And for long enough.

03:05:52.000 Right.

03:05:53.000 And, but here's the thing, Richard, even if the mom is conscientious enough to know about, Breast milk.

03:05:58.000 And no, she's got to feed her kid breast milk. 1.00

03:06:00.000 If she's not nutritionally complete, or if she's got food allergies or food intolerances, or if she's not on a nutritional supplement program, or if she's on the Standard American Diet, which is pretty much everybody now, her breast milk isn't going to be complete.

03:06:12.000 So even if she is breastfeeding, you've got a kid who's going to be compromised. 0.72

03:06:17.000 So we are pretty much starting from the get-go at a huge deficit.

03:06:21.000 Because of the institutionalization of how we were born and fed and everything nowadays in the last few decades.

03:06:21.000 That's right.

03:06:21.000 Two strikes.

03:06:31.000 So how long have we been institutionalized to this point?

03:06:34.000 I'm guessing probably the last 100 years, 120 years, somewhere around there?

03:06:39.000 It started when we figured out how to manipulate molecules when the age of chemistry was born in the middle of the 1900s.

03:06:46.000 we became entranced by the idea that we could manipulate molecules and we could manipulate nutritional chemistry and provide food substances that were cheaper, that were easier to produce, that had more profit margin, that made more money for companies, and that provided the basics so that most people that made more money for companies, and that provided the basics so that most It would keep them alive, but it wouldn't keep people in the optimal condition that health is.

03:07:11.000 It's like plants.

03:07:12.000 We were talking on the phone a couple of days, or yesterday, you and I, Richard, how plants only need NPK.

03:07:18.000 They only need nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium, and you'll grow a tomato.

03:07:21.000 But that's not a perfect tomato.

03:07:23.000 That's not a healthy tomato, and when you eat that tomato, you're going to know the difference.

03:07:27.000 Well, the human body is the same thing.

03:07:29.000 If you give your baby formula, for example, that baby's not going to die.

03:07:34.000 He'll probably survive, but he's going to be the human version of that tomato that got the NPK.

03:07:40.000 And just like that tomato survived, and that tomato was edible and sellable, but didn't have all the nutrients it needs, it's the same thing with the human body.

03:07:48.000 The human body can survive with formula, it can survive on on the standard American diet.

03:07:52.000 It can get by with the kind of foods that we're eating, but it can't be optimally healthy.

03:07:58.000 Unless it has what we're calling the Mighty 90, the basic vitamins, the basic minerals, essential fatty acids, all the amino acids, all of what we call essential nutrients, there's absolutely no way we can be as healthy as our God-given birthright is.

03:08:13.000 We are designed to be healthy.

03:08:15.000 This is the bright side message.

03:08:16.000 The human body is a healing system.

03:08:20.000 It's a regenerating system, and every time you cut yourself, you are witness to that regenerating system.

03:08:26.000 And folks, just like your finger, just like the cells of your finger heal themselves when you cut yourself, the cells of your liver heal themselves, the cells of your bones heal themselves, the cells of your digestive tracts heal themselves, Everywhere you look in the human body, you have a healing system.

03:08:41.000 So if you are dealing with some kind of degenerative disease, and remember, one out of three Americans has some kind of degenerative disease, if you're one of those one out of three Americans, something is wrong in the system.

03:08:52.000 It is not the way the body is meant to be.

03:08:54.000 And I would propose to you that the core of the problem is starvation, dehydration, suffocation, and toxification.

03:09:03.000 That is, lack of nutrients, lack of good clean water, uh... lack of oxygen and uh... a lot uh... increases in toxicity and all this by the way, all this by the way is occurring at the cell level.

03:09:15.000 Wow Ben, well I'll tell you what, you covered a lot right there, but backing up to the Digest Track, let's talk about that, let's talk, give us uh... you know, we don't have a whole lot of time, but give us a thumbnail, a good thumbnail sketch of what somebody does to get their Digest Track Working and functioning like it should be.

03:09:31.000 Alright, first of all, if you have any kind of degenerative disease, assume, just assume, that you have a digestive issue.

03:09:39.000 First thing is you want to be able to isolate what is causing the problem in terms of specific foods, and that's this food diary that I was talking about.

03:09:47.000 Jot down everything you eat, and then next to it, jot down how you feel a couple hours, two, three, four, five hours later, and it helps if you do a mono-diet.

03:09:56.000 Just eat one kind of food each day and see how you react.

03:09:59.000 The most likely suspects are going to be grains, legumes, which covers peanuts and soy and beans of all kinds, and eggs and dairy.

03:10:08.000 Those are the most likely suspects, but it could be anything.

03:10:10.000 I was just reading today how apple allergies are becoming common.

03:10:13.000 So you can be allergic and you can have intolerances to anything.

03:10:16.000 It's critical that you find out what you are having problems with and you eliminate those foods from your diet.

03:10:22.000 That is, without a doubt, the number one most important step that you can take.

03:10:25.000 The second thing you can do, you want to reduce the load on your digestive tract.

03:10:30.000 And there's several ways to do that.

03:10:32.000 Number one, use smoothies, use juices, use soups.

03:10:36.000 Grind up your foods.

03:10:37.000 Get yourself a Vitamix.

03:10:38.000 Blend your foods up.

03:10:39.000 Chop your foods up.

03:10:41.000 Anything you can do to pre-process your foods before you eat them will improve the absorption of those foods.

03:10:47.000 And then third of all, and this is just as important as the other two, you've got to get yourself on a good nutritional supplement program that features nutrients for the digestive tract.

03:10:57.000 Without a doubt, by far and away, the single most important nutrients for the digestive tract and maybe the single most important nutrients of all are what we call probiotics or good bacteria.

03:11:08.000 These things are so powerful and so important.

03:11:10.000 Now you see commercials for them on TV with Jamie Lee Curtis and all the nutrition manufacturers or vitamin manufacturers are getting in on it.

03:11:18.000 They know how powerful probiotics are, but you're not going to get the quality stuff from Jamie Lee Curtis.

03:11:25.000 If you use Young Jeopardy products, we have a great one called Nightly Essence that's coming out here at the beginning of November.

03:11:30.000 Whatever it is, get yourself on a probiotic supplement.

03:11:33.000 If you do nothing else with supplementation, that's a supplement you need.

03:11:37.000 And then there's digestive enzymes.

03:11:39.000 Digestive enzymes are unspeakably important.

03:11:42.000 You cannot process food without digestive enzymes, and many of us are dealing with digestive enzyme deficiencies.

03:11:49.000 So get yourself on a good digestive enzyme supplement.

03:11:52.000 And then, in addition to the digestive enzymes, you need acid to activate these enzymes and you know what Richard was kind of ironic in the world of health there's many ironies in the world of health but one of the great ironies in the world of health is most people many people think that they have too much acid when most people are not producing enough stomach acid if you don't produce enough stomach acid it can lead to digestive distress for every part of the digestive system from the stomach on downward including by the way the intestine where big problems arise

03:12:21.000 So, swig on apple cider vinegar, use acidic fermented foods, things like a sauerkraut, pickles, anything that's fermented and acidic is going to help activate those enzymes and improve the digestive process.

03:12:36.000 You know how many people have chronic heartburn, Richard?

03:12:39.000 Oh, I know.

03:12:39.000 You see those commercials for purple.

03:12:41.000 I don't even watch TV, and I still somehow hear commercials for purple pills, even though I don't watch TV.

03:12:46.000 Chronic heartburn.

03:12:47.000 It's crazy.

03:12:48.000 Chronic heartburn is a classic manifestation of what we call in the business achlorhydria, or hypochlorhydria, which means low stomach acid.

03:12:56.000 Just swigging on apple cider vinegar can help a lot of folks with heartburn, and most people think that their heartburn is caused by too much acid, and that is absolutely false.

03:13:07.000 There's so many places...

03:13:08.000 We're going to burn through this hour so fast, and I know you had so many other topics you wanted to hit.

03:13:13.000 So let's just talk about the idea of nutrition being the non-toxic medicine.

03:13:20.000 Man, I'll tell you, I'm a pharmacist, and my job for the last 30 years, I haven't really I've practiced traditional pharmacy for a while, but what we study in pharmacy school is the toxicity of drugs, largely.

03:13:32.000 We study some of the effects of drugs, of course, but to a large measure, we study the toxicity of drugs.

03:13:38.000 When I was in pharmacy school, I was so amazed to find out that these things that I thought were healing and that I thought were medicinal and I thought were somehow in our interest, I was so stunned to find out the toxicity that was associated with them, with these drugs.

03:13:53.000 I was so amazed, but by the time I graduated, and by the time I went out to work, I wasn't surprised any longer.

03:13:59.000 Do you know that the third or fourth or maybe fifth leading cause of death, depending on who you ask, is prescription drugs.

03:14:06.000 And I'm not talking overdosing on prescription drugs.

03:14:09.000 I'm talking taken as directed hundreds of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people a year that we know of die from taking prescription drugs.

03:14:18.000 On the other hand, you've got nutritional supplements, which are these kind and benign substances that not only are non-toxic, Richard, but they're actually the deficiencies in these substances are the causes of the disease in the first place.

03:14:33.000 And that's the most amazing thing to me.

03:14:35.000 At the point of death, when we die of a heart attack, when we die of cancer, when we die of whatever we die from, as long as it's not an accident or some kind of trauma, we are dying because at the point of death, some cell system, some tissue system that's made up of cells is starving.

03:14:51.000 So we literally die from nutritional deficiencies.

03:14:54.000 And when we talk about nutritional deficiencies, having curative powers is somewhat misleading because it's not that they're cures.

03:15:01.000 It's not like nutrition cures anything.

03:15:04.000 It's just that it replaces the stuff that's supposed to be in there to keep the body working the way it's supposed to be working.

03:15:11.000 It's just like you said earlier.

03:15:12.000 You cut your finger and you can watch that miracle over the process of a few days, maybe a week, of your finger healing up.

03:15:19.000 And that is just God's miracle that He's created to keep us healthy.

03:15:24.000 Now we just need to listen and learn to go back to eating healthy, drinking healthy.

03:15:30.000 Don't forget breathing.

03:15:33.000 Breathing is so important.

03:15:34.000 Understanding how to breathe correctly.

03:15:35.000 No, I'm not kidding you, Richard.

03:15:36.000 Talk a little bit about breathing.

03:15:37.000 It is so vital.

03:15:38.000 You know, all disease... One of the things I like to do on the bright side is I like to simplify things, right?

03:15:43.000 Well, I'm going to simplify all disease for you right now.

03:15:46.000 All disease is a manifestation of the body's stress response.

03:15:51.000 What we call disease is the body's alert to us that we better get our act in order.

03:15:57.000 Disease is our best friend because it's the way the body prevents us from dying.

03:16:01.000 You understand what I'm saying?

03:16:02.000 So when we have a disease, it's an alert, it's a call.

03:16:06.000 And one of the most important ways that we can calm the body down and relax the body and tell the body that all is okay is by breathing.

03:16:14.000 See, you can go without water for a week.

03:16:17.000 You can go without food... I'm sorry, you can go without water for three days.

03:16:20.000 You can go without food for 30 days.

03:16:22.000 But you can't go three minutes without oxygen.

03:16:26.000 When you are deprived of oxygen even a little bit, Richard, an alert, an emergency response is sent out from the adrenal glands and immediately the body goes into major emergency mode.

03:16:38.000 Now this is very important.

03:16:39.000 The next thing I'm going to say here, Richard, the body cannot heal, the body cannot grow, the body cannot repair to maximum efficiency unless It feels safe under conditions of emergency, under conditions of stress, under conditions of survival threat, all of the growth mechanisms, all of the repair mechanisms, all of the thrival mechanisms get tuned down in

03:17:06.000 In order for the body to meet what it perceives to be a survival threat.

03:17:10.000 And there is no more important survival threat than deficiencies in oxygen.

03:17:15.000 So something as simple as practicing deep breathing techniques can lower your blood pressure, can improve your immune health, can improve your digestive system, can improve your sex life, can improve your bowel movements, can improve your sleep, can reduce your anxiety, and can improve your mental clarity.

03:17:32.000 Something As simple as deep breathing.

03:17:35.000 And Richard, here's the most beautiful thing.

03:17:37.000 It only takes a minute for you to notice the difference.

03:17:39.000 And if anybody out there has hypertension, high blood pressure, do this test.

03:17:44.000 Take your blood pressure and then practice diaphragmatic breathing.

03:17:47.000 It'll take you 30 or 60 seconds.

03:17:49.000 I can show you how to do that in a sec if you want.

03:17:51.000 And then take your blood pressure again.

03:17:53.000 And what you'll notice is your blood pressure will drop like a stone.

03:17:57.000 And this exemplifies how easy it is to be healthy.

03:18:01.000 We have been so misled by the medical model, by the medical community, by the medical priests and gurus and holy men who want us to throw up our arms and give up on our health and believe that we can do nothing about the health of our body.

03:18:15.000 We have to go to the doctor.

03:18:16.000 I get letters from people who have been terrified by their doctors to get off of their medication.

03:18:21.000 I get letters from people who are terrified to not have their gallbladders removed or not have their female reproductive system removed because just in case the doctor says, oh my God, you might get cancer, you might have some kind of terrible disease.

03:18:33.000 If we don't take out your gallbladder, if we don't take out your...

03:18:36.000 Uterus, if we don't remove your breasts. 1.00

03:18:38.000 There are women who are having their breasts removed prophylactically, just in case, because they're so terrified by the medical model. 0.94

03:18:43.000 They're so terrified by the medical priest.

03:18:45.000 Well, I'm here to tell you folks, after 30 years of practicing medicine, practicing pharmacy, after 30 years of observing how these strategies work in people's lives, I'm here to tell you, you do not need a doctor.

03:18:59.000 The only time you need a doctor is if you get hit by a bus, or you need major surgery.

03:19:03.000 That's the only time.

03:19:05.000 And by the way, while we're on this topic, Richard, the last thing anybody ever wants to have to deal with is managed care that we call Obamacare.

03:19:13.000 And your best assurance of not having to deal with this coming managed care system Your best assurance of not having to deal with it is to get on a nutritional supplement program, watch out for the foods you eat, make sure you're drinking correctly, and by all means practice diaphragmatic breathing where your belly goes out on the inhale, your belly comes in on the exhale, and you breathe slowly in through the nose and powerfully exhale again through the nose.

03:19:40.000 Man, Ben, you're so dead on.

03:19:42.000 Over the last decade or so, that's exactly what I've realized.

03:19:45.000 That, hey, if I want to have some health care, it's really on me.

03:19:49.000 It's really on each of us individually to take charge of our own health care.

03:19:55.000 Because what's coming down the road, evidently, is just going to be selective care and see, you know, the culling.

03:20:01.000 They're going to decide who lives and who dies, who gets treated and who doesn't. 0.97

03:20:04.000 But the bottom line is, if you don't take good care of yourself, You're really, you're screwed, basically.

03:20:11.000 Can you imagine a bureaucrat determining what kind of health care you can have?

03:20:17.000 Are we going to be satisfied with that?

03:20:18.000 They're going to treat you like a lug nut being fastened on a wheel.

03:20:23.000 That's not going to care. 0.97

03:20:24.000 They're going to treat you like yesterday's garbage being taken out to the dumpster is how they're going to do it.

03:20:30.000 And Ben, you were talking a lot about the breathing issue alone, and I've heard you on your own show on the bright side, ben.com on gcnlive.com.

03:20:37.000 I've heard you talk about the breathing issue before.

03:20:40.000 That's got to be an epidemic right there.

03:20:42.000 Eighty or ninety percent of us are probably just shallow breathing, right?

03:20:45.000 Yes, yes, yes, exactly.

03:20:47.000 And this, it gets down to this idea of stress and emergency.

03:20:51.000 We are, and this is why, this is what the New World Order and the globalists want us scared.

03:20:56.000 Because when we're scared, we don't heal, we don't grow, we don't repair, and most scary, scariest of all, when we're in fear and we're in survival mode, our brain shrinks.

03:21:08.000 Our frontal lobe shrinks.

03:21:10.000 Our prefrontal cortex, the area where we become creative and we make good choices and we make good decisions, shrinks so that the back of the brain, the small part of the brain, the reptilian brain, the survival brain, will have the wherewithal to keep us alive.

03:21:24.000 As long as our body and our brain think that we're in survival mode, as long as our body and our brain think, are in fear mode and are taking care of our survival, We cannot be maximum performers We cannot achieve our optimal level of health and wellness And that's the ultimate and breathing is the first thing that you can do to tell the body that all is well Even if you just do it one time And folks, what is that going to cost you?

03:21:49.000 That's not going to cost you much to just practice some deep breathing, drinking some really good water, get you a pro-pure water filter, make sure you got the fluoride out of the water.

03:21:57.000 You know, Ben, that's another topic that you wanted to touch on was about the fluoride in the water and how that affects us.

03:22:03.000 And also tie that in on how and why that iodine is such an important element and supplement that we need to have.

03:22:11.000 Let me tell you about fluoride.

03:22:12.000 Fluoride almost singularly destroys this area of the brain that's called the pineal gland.

03:22:18.000 And your pineal gland is the most incredible little structure in your body.

03:22:22.000 The pineal gland basically regulates almost all consciousness through the manufacture of melatonin and serotonin.

03:22:30.000 And fluoride almost singularly dumbs down the pineal gland.

03:22:35.000 So that when we're drinking fluoridated water, when we're exposing ourselves to fluoride, this fluoride gets taken up by the pineal gland and immediately our ability to produce melatonin and our ability to produce serotonin, the two most important consciousness neurotransmitters becomes compromised.

03:22:50.000 Then the second most important gland that fluoride affects, and by the way, fluoride affects all glands, and glands produce hormones.

03:22:57.000 That's what a gland is. 1.00

03:22:58.000 The second important gland that fluoride destroys is the thyroid.

03:23:05.000 How many folks do you know are dealing with hypothyroidism?

03:23:07.000 It is an epidemic.

03:23:09.000 And let me tell you something, Richard, all diseases come from thyroid disease first, because the thyroid regulates everything in the body.

03:23:18.000 Every single cell in the body is regulated by the thyroid.

03:23:22.000 And to take, to put this kind of poison in a municipal water supply is so egregious and it's so obnoxious.

03:23:31.000 And it's such a slap in the face of anybody who understands anything about biochemistry and biology that there's got to be some evil twisted MFs out there who are laughing about it.

03:23:43.000 Ben, and there is, and you've probably done this search yourself, but I recommend folks go out there and just search the story of iodine, how iodine has literally been sucked out of just about everything we eat.

03:23:57.000 We used to get it in our breads, we used to get it in a lot of different foods that we ate naturally, but I tell you what, it literally is a conspiracy that happened I guess around the 40s, 50s, and 60s that they basically, the powers that be, saw to it that iodine has basically been completely removed from the American diet.

03:24:17.000 It's just really, really egregious.

03:24:20.000 Here's what they did, Richard.

03:24:22.000 Remember I talked about how they give you just a little bit of smattering to keep you alive?

03:24:26.000 Right.

03:24:27.000 They iodized the salt.

03:24:28.000 They put the tiniest little bit of iodine in the salt just to keep you from getting a goiter. 0.97

03:24:33.000 Because if you don't have any iodine, your thyroid gets huge because it's trying to suck up iodine, and that's called a goiter.

03:24:38.000 You ever seen that where people have this big thing on their neck?

03:24:40.000 Oh, absolutely, yes.

03:24:41.000 So what they did is they put just a tiny, tiny smattering of iodine, just enough to keep people from getting goiters, but not enough to protect you from breast cancer, not enough to protect you from fluoride, not enough to take care of your adrenal glands and give you a strong functioning thyroid, not enough to take care of the not enough to take care of your adrenal glands and give you a strong functioning thyroid, not enough to They do the same thing with... And just enough on the label to make you think that you're getting enough.

03:25:06.000 You know, so it's like saying, oh man, just boom, use this iodized salt, that's all you need.

03:25:12.000 Forget about the fact that that's also industrialized type salt, not the correct even type of salt that has a lot of minerals and health benefits to it, but instead it's industrial used salt with a little bit of iodine.

03:25:25.000 It's probably not even the right kind of iodine, but I'll tell you, we have the right kind of iodine right here.

03:25:29.000 We have the modifilin.

03:25:31.000 Iodine that we have in the Infowars store at Infowars.com and if you want some really good iodine to get on the way and on the road good this will make a difference.

03:25:39.000 I've read so many things it's like if you've got cold hands and cold feet things like that are caused from lack of iodine.

03:25:46.000 Well, it's an overall nutritional deficiency thing.

03:25:49.000 Here's the thing.

03:25:49.000 We talk about the whole idea of survival and stress.

03:25:51.000 Well, oxygen is very important for the survival response, but you know what else is?

03:25:55.000 It's nutrition.

03:25:56.000 When the body doesn't get the nutrients it needs, once again, just like when it doesn't get the oxygen it needs, it goes into survival mode.

03:26:04.000 And in survival mode, all of the things that we consider to be stressful or diseases or breakdowns, that is what happens when you're in survival mode.

03:26:13.000 Joints don't repair, bones become weaker, vasculature changes and you get cold extremities as the blood gets shunted to the middle of your body.

03:26:23.000 You don't think as clearly.

03:26:24.000 In fact, if you want to have, I talked about this on my program this morning, if you want a laundry list of all of the things that go wrong in the body when the stress response kicks in, all you got to do is look at the side effects for a drug called prednisone.

03:26:41.000 If anybody's on Prednisone, let me tell you about this stuff.

03:26:44.000 Prednisone is a drug that duplicates the stress response in the body.

03:26:49.000 It gives you the stress response.

03:26:51.000 Prednisone is a drug that tells the body you're under stress.

03:26:55.000 You say, well why the heck would a doctor ever give me a drug that would cause a stress response?

03:27:01.000 Isn't that a question you would ask yourself, Richard?

03:27:03.000 Oh, absolutely.

03:27:03.000 Right?

03:27:04.000 Well, let me tell you the answer to that. 1.00

03:27:05.000 The reason the medical model, and I hate ripping on individual doctors because there's some really nice guys out there who are doctors, but the medical model is stupidity of the highest degree. 0.75

03:27:15.000 And the reason the medical model gives you this drug that duplicates the stress response, that shuts down your body's ability to heal and thrive and grow. 0.91

03:27:23.000 And repair that shuts down your brain, that changes your vasculature, that changes the way your heart works.

03:27:29.000 The reason they give you this drug that duplicates the stress response is because when you're under stress, your immune system shuts down.

03:27:38.000 And doctors love to shut down the immune system because many of the diseases that we suffer from are caused by hyperactive immune systems.

03:27:47.000 Because our immune system is freaking out from the food that we're eating and the water that we're drinking.

03:27:53.000 I'll tell you what, you gotta hand it to the powers that be to the medical community of really establishing an insidious medical system where they take you into sickness, they don't kill you right away, right now at some point I think they're gonna kill a lot of people really quick.

03:28:12.000 They like this slow kill.

03:28:13.000 It's very, very profitable for a lot of people.

03:28:16.000 Now Ben, I know one thing you wanted to do is you want to try to take phone calls.

03:28:20.000 And guys, I think we're going to try to take phone calls.

03:28:22.000 The calling number for the call in is 877-789-ALEX.

03:28:25.000 is 877-789-ALEX. 877-789-ALEX. A-L-E-X Go ahead and call in with questions for Ben Fuchs, Pharmacist Ben.

03:28:38.000 He'd love to answer your questions out there.

03:28:41.000 I know there's a lot of folks.

03:28:42.000 I'll tell you what, Ben, one thing that was really Super exciting.

03:28:46.000 Was back earlier this year around February, March time.

03:28:52.000 Alex and some of the crew here went on the road and did events in Dallas and in Orlando.

03:28:58.000 And one thing that happened at both of those events during the question and answer sessions that just blew me away is because you don't get to hear it enough, you're not out in public enough to hear it.

03:29:09.000 We literally, at both events, had people come up to the microphones during the Q&A sessions and saying that they got on InfoWarsTeam.com products, they got on InfoWarsHealth.com products, and got on the Longevity products, the Healthy Start Packs, etc., the Biontang Tangerines, the Pollen Burst, the Osteo FX+, the EFA.

03:29:29.000 Plus, they got on these products and they said it literally saved their lives or the lives of somebody close to them, a friend or family member.

03:29:38.000 It was shocking to hear, but it's impressive, those testimonies that you hear on the road, that they're literally saying, Alex Jones, you saved my life.

03:29:48.000 They personally credited Alex Jones.

03:29:51.000 By coming forth with these websites, Infowars team, Infowarshealth.com, and pointing people to these great Young Jody products, saying, Alex Jones, you helped save my life, or some friend or family member of mine, and I gotta believe, Ben, that in the situation you're in, you probably hear a lot more of that.

03:30:10.000 Let me tell you something.

03:30:11.000 I hear about it almost every day.

03:30:13.000 I get one or two letters or Facebooks from people telling me about the Beyond Tank Tangerine.

03:30:18.000 Let me tell you something.

03:30:19.000 I am a healthcare professional.

03:30:21.000 I got a five-year degree in pharmacy.

03:30:23.000 I am not a salesperson.

03:30:25.000 I'm not a product peddler.

03:30:26.000 The only reason I talk about these nutritional supplements is because I have seen these things work.

03:30:32.000 Not a dozen times.

03:30:34.000 Not 50 times.

03:30:35.000 times, not 60 times, over the last 14 years, that's how long I've been working with Dr. Wallach and his products, over the last 14 years, I have seen these things work hundreds of times, and I couldn't live with myself if I did not share this with other people.

03:30:49.000 Just something as simple as the Beyond Tangy Tangerine.

03:30:52.000 It's not simple, it's a very elegant and beautifully formulated product, but it's so easy to do, it's so inexpensive, even if you don't have a lot of money, even if you don't believe in nutritional supplementation, the fact that this stuff comes in a liquid format, allows it to bypass all of the malabsorption issues that we talked about earlier, and And most people who are nutritionally deficient are going to notice results rapidly.

03:31:15.000 And by rapidly, I mean in one dose.

03:31:17.000 And that's one of the most beautiful things about the human body.

03:31:19.000 This is one of the greatest gifts that the divine force has given us.

03:31:22.000 Check this out, Richard.

03:31:24.000 The sicker and more nutritionally deficient we are, The faster our body will heal and recover and absorb those nutrients.

03:31:33.000 The more deficient we are, the faster our body absorbs nutrients.

03:31:37.000 The sicker we are, the faster the healing process begins.

03:31:41.000 So that if you are deficient in the B-complex, deficient in vitamin C, which most people are, once you get the B-complex in your system, once you get vitamin C in your system, within seconds, that's how fast stuff works.

03:31:56.000 And it works in a completely non-toxic fashion.

03:31:58.000 Now, you do need other things.

03:32:00.000 The Beyond Tangy Tangerine is not all you need.

03:32:03.000 But, the Beyond Tangy Tangerine is all you need to demonstrate to yourself, and to your friends, and to your family, how powerful and how effective a nutritional supplement program can be, and how powerful and effective liquid nutrition can be.

03:32:16.000 Ben, it looks like we do have some callers on the line, and I don't know how to bring them up.

03:32:16.000 Yes.

03:32:19.000 Can y'all bring them up for me, guys?

03:32:22.000 Okay, we got, uh, it looks like Timothy in Georgia.

03:32:25.000 Hello, Timothy.

03:32:26.000 What's up, Timothy?

03:32:31.000 Are you there?

03:32:33.000 Yes, sir.

03:32:35.000 Who do we have on the line?

03:32:37.000 Timothy from Georgia.

03:32:38.000 Alright, Timothy.

03:32:40.000 Come on with your question for pharmacist Ben Fuchs, or if you have a question for me, I'll be glad to answer it as well.

03:32:45.000 Sure, I was interested, you were talking about the nutritional health and things, and talking about what does that have to do with Asperger's and autism?

03:32:55.000 Well, you want to talk about Asperger's and autism.

03:32:58.000 They're a little bit different.

03:32:59.000 Asperger's is like a social anxiety disorder issue.

03:33:02.000 Now, when it comes to mental health issues, It's a little bit different than just physical issues because there's always kind of emotional trauma behind things and mental trauma.

03:33:10.000 That's not to say you can't do dramatic things with nutrition and nutritional supplementation.

03:33:14.000 The brain uses lots of energy.

03:33:17.000 That means it's burning through nutrients faster than any other system in the body or as fast as any other system in the body.

03:33:22.000 It's burning through oxygen the same way, and it's burning through sugar as fast or faster than any other system in the bodies.

03:33:29.000 So if you are deficient in nutrients, your brain is going to be deficient in nutrients and this can show up in all kinds of different ways.

03:33:36.000 So for example with Asperger's Syndrome, which is a type of social anxiety, there are incredible nutritional supplements that help with anxiety.

03:33:43.000 Niacin alone, vitamin B3.

03:33:45.000 Google niacinamide or niacin and Asperger's syndrome.

03:33:48.000 Niacin is tremendous for treating anxiety.

03:33:50.000 In fact, one of the forefathers or one of the grandfathers of nutritional therapy, which is called orthomolecular medicine, was a guy named Dr. Abram Hoffer, and he wrote an entire book about how you could use niacin, simple vitamin B3, to treat anxiety, to treat schizophrenia, to treat autism to treat anxiety, to treat schizophrenia, to treat autism as well.

03:34:09.000 In fact, the four D's of niacin deficiency, if you go to medical school, they'll tell you niacin deficiency is marked by the four D's.

03:34:16.000 The four D's are diarrhea, dermatitis, dementia, and death.

03:34:16.000 The four D's.

03:34:21.000 So simple niacin deficiency can cause digestive problems, it can cause problems with the brain, problems thinking, it can cause skin rashes, and ultimately simple niacin deficiency will cause death.

03:34:33.000 So there's tremendous things you could do for anxiety using nutritional supplements.

03:34:36.000 I would be getting on the Beyond Tangy Tangerine, the B-Complex, Niacin.

03:34:40.000 You could use something called GABA, G-A-B-A.

03:34:43.000 You can use something called Lithium Orotate.

03:34:45.000 You'll get a little bit of lithium in the Beyond Tangy Tangerine.

03:34:48.000 All of these are wonderful for working with the brain.

03:34:50.000 Magnesium is super important for brain health.

03:34:52.000 You can use the Osteomag if you're using longevity products.

03:34:55.000 Lots of things you could do for brain health issues, including autism and including Asperger's Syndrome.

03:35:02.000 I have another question.

03:35:03.000 Sure.

03:35:04.000 You know, we're into the survival and preparedness things, and I was asking, what kind of items should we store for, like, a nutritional, nutritional health and to keep our bodies healthy?

03:35:16.000 I know there's a lot of things that, like, what's Look for powders.

03:35:20.000 Look for powders.

03:35:21.000 Again, that's where the Beyond Tangy comes in so well.

03:35:24.000 Look for powders, things that will last a long time.

03:35:27.000 You want minerals, mineral drinks, things that last a really long time.

03:35:32.000 Minerals will last a long time and powders will last a long time.

03:35:35.000 Ben, let me interrupt.

03:35:36.000 One of the key things we need to do, you know, people like to talk about preparedness.

03:35:40.000 I love talking about preparedness.

03:35:42.000 I wish I could do more preparedness myself.

03:35:44.000 But the biggest thing you can do for preparedness is get healthy now.

03:35:47.000 Get healthy now.

03:35:50.000 If the police state were really to come in, and let's just say we had the Mad Max scenario, one of the key things to survive is be as healthy as possible going into that.

03:36:00.000 That's right.

03:36:01.000 And like you said, have things like the Beyond Tangy Tangerine, have your eFoods direct, your food storage, have the LifeStraw, have your ProPure, you know, have a good source of water somewhere, have your BugOut.

03:36:12.000 Encampment somewhere ready to go to.

03:36:14.000 You can do so many things.

03:36:15.000 Have your seeds.

03:36:17.000 Everything.

03:36:19.000 The big thing that I think a lot of people ignore is that you better be healthy going into it.

03:36:23.000 Because that's one fear that I have.

03:36:25.000 For instance, I have dental problems I need to work on.

03:36:28.000 It's like, hey, I just need to get my teeth fixed.

03:36:30.000 That way if tomorrow, hey, no dentists are available, maybe no gasoline is available, maybe no electricity is available.

03:36:36.000 Well, guess what?

03:36:37.000 You know, you're SOL on that.

03:36:39.000 It's going to be a big trouble.

03:36:41.000 I'm telling you what, you know what else, Richard?

03:36:43.000 Every time we drive by Taco Bell, we should be giving them the finger.

03:36:46.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:36:47.000 McDonald's, are you kidding me?

03:36:49.000 McDonald's, if you're interested in survivalism, if you're interested in fighting the New World Order, McDonald's is not on the menu.

03:36:57.000 And none of that stuff is on the menu.

03:36:58.000 Because you know what, Richard?

03:36:59.000 That's how we are kept sick.

03:37:02.000 By the fast foods, processed foods.

03:37:10.000 I'm telling you, what we eat is so darn important.

03:37:15.000 Let me tell you something else, Richard.

03:37:16.000 The less we eat, the better off we are.

03:37:21.000 Obviously, you need to have a certain amount of food, but calorie restriction, eating less calories is the single most powerful tool we have at our disposal for our longevity.

03:37:33.000 Every study that's ever been done on longevity shows that the less calories you ingest, as long as you're getting your nutrients, it's called calorie restriction with adequate nutrition.

03:37:42.000 As long as you're getting your nutrition, the less calories you ingest, the better off you're going to be, the longer you're going to live, and the quicker you're going to heal and grow and repair if you're sick.

03:37:53.000 After we eat, Richard, do you know that an inflammatory immune response is initiated that shuts down the healing process temporarily until the body settles down?

03:38:03.000 That's after every meal we eat, we have to pay close attention to the kind of foods we're eating and we have to make sure that we're not eating as many calories and we're still getting the nutrients.

03:38:13.000 I'll tell you what, Ben, that's one thing I've definitely not adhered to as well, is I haven't gone into the calorie restriction, but I need to do that.

03:38:19.000 Ben, we've lit up the lines with calls, so let's go on to the next call.

03:38:23.000 We've got, looks like Marvin in Texas.

03:38:25.000 Hello, Marvin, can you hear us, and what's your question?

03:38:28.000 Hey, Ben, hey.

03:38:29.000 Hey, Marvin.

03:38:30.000 How you doing?

03:38:31.000 Greetings.

03:38:32.000 Hey, it's become so easy now for me to just When I get into, I know a lot of doctors and everything and it's just so easy to pull up links and destroy their theories or show them and they go, whoa, hey, that's great.

03:38:45.000 By you, but I ran into a problem with an eye doctor.

03:38:48.000 Okay.

03:38:49.000 And I was just wondering if there was a link I could go to to find out about repairing your eyesight.

03:38:54.000 That's a good question.

03:38:55.000 That's a great question.

03:38:56.000 Let me tell you why I like that question, Marvin.

03:38:58.000 Have you and I met before, Marvin?

03:39:00.000 Oh, you know who it is?

03:39:01.000 Yes.

03:39:02.000 I think I do know who you are.

03:39:03.000 Okay.

03:39:04.000 I'll say her first name, Angela, is the person I go through.

03:39:08.000 Good deal, Angela's awesome. 1.00

03:39:09.000 Alright, here's the deal.

03:39:10.000 Whenever you have a part of the body that's breaking down, it's important that we don't focus on the part of the body that's breaking down as much as we focus on the fact that the body is breaking down.

03:39:23.000 It doesn't matter where you're breaking down, it matters that you're breaking down.

03:39:28.000 Now, it could break down anywhere, and it's almost like the luck of the draw.

03:39:31.000 It's sort of like how a wall breaks.

03:39:33.000 You know, how a wall comes tumbling down.

03:39:35.000 A crack will appear on the left, a crack will appear on the right, a crack will appear in the middle, and eventually cracks will appear all over.

03:39:41.000 Or it's kind of how glass cracks.

03:39:43.000 It doesn't necessarily matter where it's cracking, it matters that it's cracking, and if you wait long enough the whole thing is going to crack.

03:39:49.000 So when you say there's a problem with the eyes, what you're really talking about is you're talking about inflammation in the muscles, you're talking about inflammation in the lens, you're talking about a sugar reaction perhaps in the cornea you're talking about breakdown at the cell level and it doesn't matter necessarily that's the eye cells or the iris cells or the cornea cells or the retinal cells or the joint cells the liver cells or the thyroid cells it matters that the body is breaking down not where it's breaking down

03:40:19.000 so when you deal with an eye problem you deal with it the same way you deal with eczema you deal with it the same way you deal with the liver disease you deal with the same way you deal with any health issue That is by controlling, number one, inflammation.

03:40:31.000 And that means by controlling what you put in your mouth, the kind of foods you're eating.

03:40:36.000 Stabilizing your blood sugar, that is eating more protein, eating less of the refined carbohydrates, the fast-burning carbohydrates, eliminating food allergies, making sure you're breathing correctly, making sure you're hydrating, and that's really the point.

03:40:49.000 We get so misdirected.

03:40:51.000 It's like a magician's trick where they show you something's happened on the left and they pick your pocket on the right.

03:40:56.000 We get misdirected into thinking the problem is our eyes, or the problem is our thyroid, or the problem is our joints, or the problem is our liver, or the problem is our adrenal glands, or the problem is Parts of the body, and it's not the parts of the body.

03:41:09.000 Ben, let me ask you a question.

03:41:11.000 So, like I say, for instance, with your eyes, basically everybody should be on a Healthy Start Pack, also known as the Alex Pack, available through Infowarsteam.com.

03:41:19.000 That gives you the 90 for life, gives you the 90 minerals that you need to get your body basically healthy.

03:41:25.000 But talk about how, like Doc Wallach talks about, how when it comes to your eyes, what is going to be some of the secret sauce that helps for the mighty 90?

03:41:33.000 Ready for the secret sauce?

03:41:34.000 Let's hear it.

03:41:35.000 I love the way you said that.

03:41:36.000 The secret sauce.

03:41:37.000 And I love talking about the eyes.

03:41:38.000 I'll tell you why.

03:41:38.000 Because I'm in the skin business.

03:41:39.000 You know I'm in the skin business, right?

03:41:41.000 Yes.

03:41:41.000 That's how I generate most of my money.

03:41:43.000 I formulate skin care products and I help people with their skin.

03:41:46.000 So when I tell people, I always tell people about how how you can use nutrition for your skin, especially for the sun.

03:41:52.000 You know how we get all this crap about how you've got to stay out of the sun?

03:41:55.000 That's another load of crap right there, how you've got to stay out of the sun. 0.90

03:41:59.000 So I tell people, look, here's a test for you. 0.98

03:42:01.000 Go get yourself eye vitamins, all right?

03:42:05.000 And I'll tell you what those are here in a minute.

03:42:06.000 You can get Vision FX or some kind of eye vitamin.

03:42:09.000 And take it for a month and then go out, or first lay out in the sun and see how fast you burn.

03:42:15.000 People usually burn 5-10 minutes.

03:42:17.000 Then you take the Vision FX or you take some kind of eye vitamin for a month or so and then lay out in the sun again.

03:42:22.000 You know what you're going to find?

03:42:23.000 You're going to find that you don't burn anywhere near as rapidly as you did before you took those supplements because the supplements that you're taking go through your digestive tract and go into your blood and get stored in your skin to protect you from the sun.

03:42:37.000 Well, guess what, Richard?

03:42:39.000 The same thing happens with the eyes.

03:42:41.000 When you take these supplements that are specific for the eyes, they go through your digestive tract, they go in your blood, and they get stored in the eyes.

03:42:49.000 And the eyes are subject to a lot of stress from the sun.

03:42:52.000 Obviously, they're subject to light stress.

03:42:54.000 So, using Antioxidant nutrients like selenium, and vitamin A, and zinc, and vitamin C, and vitamin E, and herbs like bilberry, and phytonutrients like astaxanthin, and zeaxanthin, and by the way, all of these are in the VisionFX.

03:43:10.000 A lot of these are in the VisionFX.

03:43:12.000 Most of them you'll get all of them in the Mighty 90.

03:43:15.000 If you start to take nutritional supplements for your eyes, not only will you notice that your eyesight is improving, not only will you notice that if you have macular degeneration, your macular degeneration is improving, but you'll also notice that your skin health is improving and you'll notice that you have a better skin response to the sun as well.

03:43:31.000 Wow, Ben, and also, do we not probably abuse our eyes now more than ever?

03:43:37.000 Now that, you know, we got in the sun and all that, that's a natural thing going out there, that's the way God made us on that, but with the computer screens that we're constantly staring at, what, I mean, we're really, really working our eyes hard, aren't we?

03:43:50.000 Not only that, but when you, uh, artificial light is no, do you know the World Health Organization considers artificial light to be a probable carcinogen?

03:43:57.000 Wow.

03:43:58.000 So if you're staring, if you're staring at your computer screen, you're pounding yourself with these artificial, with, uh, with potential carcinogens.

03:44:06.000 And by the way, the way it works is the light goes through your eyeballs, right?

03:44:10.000 And it goes into your brain and you literally, Richard, have a little structure in the middle of your head that has photoreceptors on it.

03:44:19.000 It's literally a third eye in the middle of your head.

03:44:22.000 You know what that's called?

03:44:24.000 It's called your pineal gland. 0.87

03:44:25.000 And that's that very same gland that we talked about earlier as being one of the major targets of deposition of fluoride.

03:44:34.000 So not only are we messing up our circadian rhythms, our light and dark rhythms, with fluoride, but we're doing it with artificial light and things like iPads and computer screens.

03:44:44.000 Wow, and Ben, I just gotta say it again.

03:44:45.000 Folks, you got to take charge of your own health.

03:44:49.000 Don't wait for Obamacare.

03:44:51.000 You can't really even count on health insurance.

03:44:53.000 Recently I was doing a study on that.

03:44:55.000 They said that 70% of the people that go into bankruptcy due to health and medical-related bills and issues like that, guess what?

03:45:04.000 They had health insurance in the beginning of that spiral.

03:45:08.000 The health insurance did not save them financially.

03:45:11.000 One of the biggest financial risks that we all take is not taking charge and taking care of our health.

03:45:18.000 Alright, Ben, we're going to try squeezing another caller.

03:45:20.000 Let's go to Mike here.

03:45:23.000 Mike, are you on the line?

03:45:24.000 Can we bring up Mike?

03:45:25.000 Yes sir, I'm here.

03:45:26.000 Alright, ask your question real quick, we're running out of time.

03:45:28.000 Alright, I got two real quick questions.

03:45:29.000 So when I was younger, you know, they thought I had Crohn's and I didn't and they said I had osteopenia and all this stuff, so I ate horrible my whole younger life, just gluten all day, so I'm on the healthy digestion pack, I'm drinking good water, I'm off GMO, I'm off gluten, so it's been about a month so far.

03:45:44.000 I'm hoping that works out for me.

03:45:47.000 Real quick, everyone in my family is super skinny.

03:45:50.000 I weigh like 135 pounds and I was reading an article in Natural News about how bodybuilding is actually bad for you.

03:45:57.000 So what first is a good kind of workout thing for someone who just wants to have good stamina?

03:46:01.000 I mean, is it jogging or running?

03:46:03.000 Here's what you do.

03:46:06.000 Can I say one last thing real quick?

03:46:07.000 I have a friend who has encephalitis.

03:46:10.000 It's like a brain inflammation.

03:46:11.000 He's kind of a beard guy.

03:46:12.000 He's been going to the doctor for like months and he can't get any help.

03:46:15.000 So do you have any advice on that too?

03:46:17.000 I've got advice for both of you.

03:46:17.000 Absolutely.

03:46:19.000 First of all, I'm not sure.

03:46:19.000 It doesn't sound right that Mike would be down on bodybuilding.

03:46:24.000 Maybe he's down on competitive bodybuilding or something like that.

03:46:26.000 The best way to build muscle is a combination of protein and essential fatty acids as nutrients, all your trace nutrients, the kind of stuff that you get in the Ultimate Daily and the Beyond Tangy Tangerine, and when you're lifting weights, but lifting weights in a very interesting way that should only take you maybe 10 minutes max.

03:46:47.000 Three or four days a week.

03:46:48.000 You don't want to put a lot of stress on the system, but you want to put just enough stress on the system.

03:46:52.000 And the best way to build muscle mass is to use what I call micro-movements.

03:46:57.000 And micro-movements are when you do your repetitions super, super, super, super slow.

03:47:03.000 So if you're doing a curl, for example, it should take you maybe 30 seconds to do a complete curl up and 30 seconds to do that complete curl down.

03:47:12.000 And if you do it like that, you should only be able to do two or three reps.

03:47:16.000 Two or three reps with each arm, maybe two or three days a week.

03:47:19.000 And you do all your body parts that way.

03:47:21.000 And you will rip up and bulk up fast.

03:47:24.000 Now, if you do your supplements, you want to make sure you do your supplements when you come home from the gym, when you come home from a workout.

03:47:31.000 And it wouldn't hurt you to get some aerobic training as well.

03:47:33.000 I would be doing sprints, maybe once or twice a week, do a 30-second sprint.

03:47:38.000 And that's all it takes.

03:47:39.000 And get yourself a rebounder, folks. 1.00

03:47:41.000 If you can get a rebounder, it's a great way to move your lymphatic system and move Uh, toxins throughout the body.

03:47:47.000 The lymphatic system is your drainage system for poisons, and it depends on muscular movement for pumping action to get that stuff out of your body.

03:47:54.000 If you're not moving your body around, whether it's on a trampoline, or it's whether, uh, doing quick sprints, your lymphatic system can get clogged up, and that can lead to almost every hideous disease you can think of.

03:48:04.000 Right, Ben, and that, uh, sorry, go ahead.

03:48:06.000 Let me, let me, let's just say about This, at the end of a word, on a medical term, means inflammation.

03:48:12.000 Encephala means the head.

03:48:14.000 That's inflammation in the brain.

03:48:16.000 Inflammation somewhere in the head, inside the head, inside the skull.

03:48:20.000 Anytime there's inflammation, as long as it's not a bacterial inflammation perhaps, I'm assuming it's not viral or bacterial, Any time there is an inflammatory effect in the body, look to the digestive system.

03:48:33.000 This is 80% of the inflammatory system starts off in the digestive system.

03:48:38.000 The inflammatory system is the other side of the coin of the immune system.

03:48:42.000 The immune system is your defense system.

03:48:44.000 So anytime there's inflammation, that is a sign that the body is reacting to something that got inside it.

03:48:50.000 Now, as long as it's not bacteria or viruses, chances are it's coming in through something this guy's eating, and that would be the first thing I'd focus on.

03:48:57.000 Look to digestive issues.

03:49:00.000 I would, if I'm not a betting man, but I would bet the house if I was that this guy's got some digestive distress.

03:49:04.000 I'll tell you, that's why we talked about it so much earlier, because I know that's a big issue.

03:49:08.000 Let's try one more call real quick.

03:49:10.000 I think we have Chris next.

03:49:12.000 Hello, Chris.

03:49:13.000 How you doing?

03:49:14.000 What's up Chris?

03:49:15.000 We're just about out of time.

03:49:17.000 Go ahead.

03:49:18.000 I have a couple things here.

03:49:20.000 One mainly for the pharmacist here and the doc.

03:49:22.000 I'm a veteran Iraqi Afghan.

03:49:26.000 I was actually in the first force recon.

03:49:28.000 I took some shrapnel to my spine.

03:49:32.000 It tore up a bunch of my nerves in the back, and I've been dealing with a lot of morphine sulfate, and trying to get my pain under control, because when I come down off the morphine, I have serious pain in my legs and my lower back, but the morphine is also, it's tearing me up.

03:49:47.000 Yeah, it'll tear you up.

03:49:50.000 And I was just wondering, there's two things I was wondering.

03:49:53.000 I remember talking to you a while ago, and you had put me on this plan with Tangy Tangerine and a bunch of other stuff, but I can't really afford that.

03:50:01.000 But the question I have for you is, is there any way I can get the VA to pay for treatment like that?

03:50:07.000 You know, I'll tell you what, buddy.

03:50:09.000 What's your name?

03:50:11.000 Tell me.

03:50:11.000 Chris?

03:50:12.000 Is this Chris?

03:50:13.000 I think it's Chris.

03:50:14.000 Hey, Chris, listen.

03:50:15.000 If you shoot me an email, I'm going to send you out some Beyond Tang Tangerine on me, okay?

03:50:19.000 Send an email to ben at ksco.com and put, just tell me you're Chris from the Alex Jones Money Bomb and put your address there and I'm going to send you out some VTT, okay, buddy?

03:50:30.000 It's Ben, B-E-N, Ben at K-S-C-O dot com.

03:50:34.000 KingSamCharlieOscar.com.

03:50:39.000 Make sure you say Chris and put your address on there.

03:50:43.000 Hey Ben, that brings me to a question here.

03:50:45.000 How did you first learn of Infowars.com and tell me what you thought and where you are now with the odyssey that we're on here.

03:50:54.000 Let me tell you where I first started.

03:50:55.000 I started listening to Alex back in the late 90s.

03:50:57.000 He was on a station called Radio Liberty.

03:50:59.000 And let me tell you something.

03:51:00.000 When I heard that guy, like everybody obviously who first hears Alex, I was blown away.

03:51:06.000 And I've been an Alex Jones fan ever since.

03:51:08.000 Now, I didn't start getting on to InfoWars until maybe eight or nine years ago.

03:51:12.000 But Alex Jones' message... Listen, I like to tell my...

03:51:17.000 It's not that humble, but I like to think of myself as the Alex Jones of nutrition.

03:51:21.000 I want to wake people up to the idea that we are being manipulated by nutritional and biochemical warfare.

03:51:29.000 Alright?

03:51:30.000 And it is a kind of info war, but it's also a biochemical war, and it's a nutritional war.

03:51:35.000 And so, to me, what I'm doing is what Alex is doing with the New World Order and with politics and with geopolitics.

03:51:42.000 I'm dealing with nutrition.

03:51:43.000 So I, he's like a brother in arms is the way I look at it.

03:51:47.000 Well Ben, that's great.

03:51:47.000 I tell you what, you, Dr. Glidden, Doc Wallach, Dr. Corey Gold, are like the four Musketeers, the four Alex Jones of the Health Info War.

03:51:57.000 It's magnificent that you guys are there.

03:52:00.000 Folks, I tell you what, you the listeners, you the audience, are the reason that we're all here.

03:52:06.000 All this great crew that I'm Privileged to work with and that I'm privileged to be here at this microphone.

03:52:12.000 It blows me away to think that I'm a part of another money bomb.

03:52:16.000 I think this is the third money bomb I've been involved with and I've had a little piece of it, a little segment of it and I'm telling you there's only one guy on the planet that could have put this together the way he did and that's Alex Jones.

03:52:27.000 And he's my boss.

03:52:28.000 I love him.

03:52:29.000 Man, the guy, I've been, he's solid.

03:52:31.000 I've been listening to him since 1997 or 98 when I first heard him on 98.9 FM JFK here in Austin.

03:52:40.000 So folks, go to the Infowarsmoneybomb.com.

03:52:43.000 Infowarsmoneybomb.com.

03:52:46.000 And donate till it hurts if you can.

03:52:48.000 Like Alex says, if you can't afford it, just spread the word.

03:52:51.000 Be an Infowarrior.

03:52:52.000 Spread the word if you can't afford it.

03:52:54.000 But if you can't afford it, if you do have the means, by all means, do this.

03:52:58.000 And get healthy now.

03:52:59.000 Prep up.

03:53:00.000 Get healthy.

03:53:01.000 Infowarrior's team.

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03:53:06.000 Are we off?

03:53:09.000 Are we off?

03:53:30.000 For Infowars Nightly News, I'm David Ortiz.

03:53:47.000 As Alex Jones recently detailed on his show, the Travel Channel has debuted a new show titled Airport 24-7 Miami, which focuses on the TSA and the wonderful job they do in trying to protect the American people.

03:54:02.000 As you can see on this photo here, which shows the cast, they seem to be harmless individuals who are simply trying to do their job.

03:54:11.000 Here's my assessment.

03:54:12.000 While most TSA workers are good individuals who are simply being used as pawns by the federal government, this show will never focus on the large minority of TSA employees who are making the lives of Americans a living hell.

03:54:27.000 According to the Government Accountability Office, in 2010, an estimated 50,000 individuals were pulled aside by behavior detection officers.

03:54:37.000 And of that group, a whopping 300 were arrested.

03:54:41.000 However, of that group, none of them were deemed terrorists.

03:54:45.000 But don't tell that to this cast member.

03:54:47.000 It gets challenging.

03:54:48.000 Security has to obviously trump customer service in the end.

03:54:52.000 Absolutely, because our number one mission is to keep people safe.

03:54:54.000 And we know that the terrorists are still out there trying to game the system.

03:54:57.000 So in fact, if so few terrorists are being caught, why are we spending over $8 billion annually to fund this security theater agency?

03:55:09.000 A simple bulletproof steel door on an airliner, as well as bomb-sniffing dogs, and simple yet reliable metal detectors would barely inconvenience the public and give us a far greater return on our investment.

03:55:25.000 This show also dismisses the fact that nearly every week the TSA harasses Americans that are clearly not a threat to the public.

03:55:34.000 Americans such as these. 0.98

03:55:36.000 Danae is dying of leukemia and carried a large amount of prescription drugs through Sea-Tac last week for a trip to Hawaii.

03:55:43.000 She called Alaska Airlines ahead of time for a wheelchair and to ask how her medicine should be separated for the security line.

03:55:50.000 The machine couldn't get a reading on her saline bag, so a TSA agent forced one open.

03:55:55.000 The pat-down at Dallas Airport was completely different than the one I got at LAX. 0.99

03:56:01.000 And I'm sure this woman was just doing her job, but she actually touched my vagina. 1.00

03:56:09.000 And so I think that's why I'm crying, that's why I'm so emotional, because I'm already so upset that they're making me go, making me do this, making me choose. 0.90

03:56:18.000 On the heels of this show being unveiled, the Travel Channel, which is normally a fun and harmless network, is also debuting a new show called Baggage Battles.

03:56:28.000 What viewers won't find out watching this show is that a lot of, quote, baggage battles could have been prevented had the TSA not stolen your stuff, a crime that former TSA employee Pytheas Brown says occurs frequently.

03:56:43.000 I can estimate maybe it had been about $200,000 a year, maybe more, for about four years.

03:56:52.000 Worth of items that you stole?

03:56:52.000 Yes.

03:56:55.000 Out of luggage?

03:56:55.000 Yes.

03:56:56.000 Yes.

03:56:57.000 So the bottom line here is the Travel Channel is mostly an entertaining and harmless network.

03:57:02.000 However, this season they have dropped the ball by promoting a deeply flawed agency.

03:57:08.000 And remember, if you want to hold the TSA accountable, partake in our opt-out and film campaign, which is taking place from November the 19th through the 26th.

03:57:19.000 Reporting for InfoWars Nightly News, I'm David Ortiz.

03:57:22.000 It's the InfoWars Money Bomb 2012.

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03:57:38.000 48-hour special transmission.

03:57:39.000 The tyrants need to know we're coming for them.

03:57:42.000 And the InfoWars is expanding.

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04:00:04.000 We are... Man, we are still playing that song?

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04:00:25.000 All right.

04:00:27.000 Alright, okay, alright.

04:00:28.000 Now, I'm joined in studio as you just saw by two of our great info warriors.

04:00:33.000 We have Rob Jacobson and Russell Dowden.

04:00:36.000 How you doing, guys?

04:00:37.000 Hey, how's it going, Scott?

04:00:38.000 It's going good.

04:00:40.000 So, you know, you guys, I said when we come in here, we're just going to do something off the cuff, off script.

04:00:46.000 No, well, we don't have scripts or teleprompters anyway, but pretty much nothing.

04:00:50.000 We're just going to Shoot the stuff for the next hour.

04:00:54.000 Chew the fat. 0.99

04:00:55.000 Now, I told you guys I wasn't going to do any articles.

04:00:57.000 I do have one article, just one, that I want to get to.

04:01:00.000 I saw this just a second ago.

04:01:02.000 Headline, TSA fires tens of agents.

04:01:06.000 I think that's something.

04:01:07.000 I think that's a small victory in a sense.

04:01:11.000 Okay, I'll read this.

04:01:12.000 TSA on Friday proposed firing 25, 25 of its employees and suspending 19 others for failing to properly screen checked luggage.

04:01:21.000 The action comes as a result of a year-long investigation prompted by reports of theft in a New Jersey baggage room.

04:01:28.000 So, we see a lot of reports about these guys in the TSA.

04:01:32.000 They're stealing it.

04:01:32.000 The guy said, I stole $800,000 in four years or so.

04:01:38.000 Now, one guy was caught red-handed with the iPad, which he was kind of Network broadcast investigation some channel did that and caught them red-handed just stealing an iPad and then the guy blamed it on his wife Yeah, he's like my wife came to my job and and stole this iPad And he was a supervisor I think yeah, it's like well we have video tape of you, and he's like oh You know just oh you do all right.

04:02:05.000 Yeah, it's caught red-handed Yeah, so With this in mind, let's talk a little bit about the crew, because we get a lot of questions like, who's in the crew?

04:02:14.000 What do you guys do there?

04:02:15.000 And people had a chance to see the David Ortiz piece when we went around the office and we had a chance to meet the crew.

04:02:21.000 So for people who don't know me, I guess I am fairly new here at InfoWars.

04:02:26.000 My name is Ja'Kari Jackson.

04:02:28.000 I'm a reporter on the InfoWars Nightly News.

04:02:30.000 Started, I guess, about two, three months ago now.

04:02:34.000 And Levin Austin, winner of the InfoWars reporter contest, many other great entries in that as well.

04:02:40.000 And many of our other reporters came for that as well.

04:02:43.000 That's my short introduction.

04:02:45.000 We'll move on now to Rob Jacobson.

04:02:47.000 Thanks, Shaqari.

04:02:48.000 I'm Rob Jacobson.

04:02:49.000 I have been here since we did Martial Law.

04:02:52.000 It was my first film, and I have been Alex's DVD video editor.

04:02:58.000 Since Martial, I've done Martial, I've done Order of Death, and I helped Alex re-edit Bohemian Grove for that special disc that we did.

04:03:07.000 Then we moved on to Terror Storm and Endgame.

04:03:09.000 I've been involved in all those projects.

04:03:12.000 And of course, Obama Deception and Fall of the Republic.

04:03:16.000 Yes.

04:03:17.000 It's been quite a rollercoaster ride over here, and I wouldn't trade it for the world.

04:03:21.000 It's been an honor.

04:03:23.000 You know, I can't, it's like living a novel over here and it's unbelievable and surreal and, you know, it is like what Alex is saying.

04:03:31.000 Being around here, doing this stuff, being active, which he showed me how to do, is really living life.

04:03:37.000 I mean, time has flown by for me these last six years, seven years.

04:03:40.000 It's been like a big vacation and I wouldn't trade a total adventure, I wouldn't trade it for the world.

04:03:46.000 And we'll talk about that six years of experience here in just a little bit, but Russ, tell us what you got.

04:03:51.000 Oh, gosh.

04:03:53.000 Russell Dowden.

04:03:54.000 I do the magazine here for Alex, and Alex and I were kind of old broadcast buddies.

04:04:01.000 I used to do radio with GCN many, many years ago, Jakari.

04:04:06.000 Back in 2000, I kind of had a paranormal rock conspiracy show back in the old days.

04:04:12.000 And anyway, I heard and got wind that Alex wanted to have a magazine.

04:04:17.000 So after many years of publishing Weird Magazine, I reached out to him and said, hey, you still want to get that magazine going?

04:04:23.000 Let's talk.

04:04:24.000 He was like, oh, yeah, come in, Russell.

04:04:25.000 Let's talk about it.

04:04:26.000 So, you know, all that time later, here we go.

04:04:28.000 And we've got our working on our third one that'll be out next week or a half from now by the first of the month.

04:04:36.000 A lot of fun to be in here with you guys.

04:04:38.000 I've been watching the InfoWars team for a long time and it's really cool to be in here and host the show tonight.

04:04:45.000 You did a great segment.

04:04:47.000 You two guys did a great segment together.

04:04:49.000 It was fun.

04:04:50.000 It was a lot of fun.

04:04:51.000 Now we have one more guy, one of our guys behind the scene.

04:04:55.000 If you watch the Info Wars Nightly News, you see us commonly referred to this guy and you see me talk to him very unprofessional live on air.

04:05:04.000 You see, you know, who made that graphic?

04:05:06.000 Who made that graphic? 0.96

04:05:08.000 And we have many great graphics people here.

04:05:10.000 Jacobson is one.

04:05:12.000 Also Darren McBreen who will be joining us a little bit later.

04:05:15.000 Melissa Melton as well as doing her reports.

04:05:17.000 She also makes graphics.

04:05:19.000 But one of our favorite guys here, one of the guys we couldn't live without, Marcos Morales.

04:05:23.000 Can you hear me in there, Marcos?

04:05:25.000 Hey, what's up, guys?

04:05:26.000 You hear me in there?

04:05:27.000 Yeah.

04:05:28.000 Hey, they finally gave me a mic.

04:05:29.000 There he is.

04:05:31.000 That's the mystery man who makes all, well, not all of our great graphics, but a lot of our great graphics.

04:05:36.000 You know, you guys always hear me say, oh, that's a great graphic, Marcos.

04:05:38.000 That's a great graphic.

04:05:39.000 And he does make great graphics.

04:05:42.000 His work is real funny and it's political and it's a great mix.

04:05:46.000 So is this your debut, Marcos?

04:05:49.000 This is actually, yeah, this is not necessarily my debut.

04:05:53.000 I went out and Alex threw me on the air when Darren and I went down to Georgia to talk to Chicken Man, or talk to, to find out about Chicken Man's story and then we raised a bunch of, you know, Raised a bunch of flags at the City Hall in Roswell, Georgia and now they're like, they screen everybody that goes in.

04:06:10.000 They put in scanners because of me and Darren.

04:06:12.000 Just showing up with a camera to ask questions.

04:06:15.000 Yeah, you show up and ask questions and a lot of things happen to you.

04:06:19.000 Now, that's a good topic.

04:06:20.000 Marcos, now before we, I guess we can go into people's histories and I definitely want to talk to Rob about your, you know, your experience here at InfoWars.

04:06:28.000 I want to talk about a little bit of war stories.

04:06:30.000 You know, we just heard Marcos allude to the Chicken Man incident where he and Darren, man I have the shiny hat, I'm gonna have to put on a hat.

04:06:37.000 I can see myself in there.

04:06:39.000 I'm going to put on my hat.

04:06:40.000 I brought a hat because this is a common thing, you know, me and Dan, we shave our heads and we get the shiny head.

04:06:46.000 So, until Doo calls and tells me to take it off, I'll be wearing this hat.

04:06:51.000 Alright, so anyway, I want to tell us some war stories and I guess I'll start.

04:06:56.000 In my short time here at InfoWards, I had a chance to go out to an RFID protest.

04:07:01.000 And even though that wasn't my story, I was a cameraman there for that.

04:07:04.000 And to me, that was the most impactful thing in my short professional journalism career, to go out there and interact with people because so often we just do these stories.

04:07:16.000 It's the idea of getting rid of fluoride or it's the idea of people being knowledgeable about what vaccines can do to your kids.

04:07:24.000 But with this RFID protest, I had a chance to go out there and actually meet people, the people who our stories affect in the Hernandez family in San Antonio, Texas.

04:07:32.000 I'm not sure if the Alex Jones Show of InfoWards were the first people to carry that story, but we're definitely one of the earliest.

04:07:38.000 And since then, they've gone on to publications such as the Huffington Post, and we're definitely happy to be a part of their early exposure.

04:07:47.000 And also, on that same trip, myself and Melissa Melton had a chance to meet the NSA.

04:07:53.000 So, I guess we're official now.

04:07:57.000 Welcome to the club!

04:07:59.000 You have an NSA story, Russ.

04:08:03.000 They called my cell phone once.

04:08:06.000 Didn't even leave a message, but they did call.

04:08:08.000 I don't know if that was a spoof or what, but yeah, picked up the phone, called him back.

04:08:14.000 National Security Agency, can I help you?

04:08:16.000 I was like, oh, the NSA, what's going on?

04:08:20.000 Anyway, we had that show and that piece that Alex did a while back, but welcome to the club!

04:08:24.000 Welcome to the club, and as Russell was talking about, you can find that piece on PrisonPlanet.tv.

04:08:30.000 Now, Jacobson, what do you got?

04:08:31.000 I mean, let's pull up some more stories.

04:08:35.000 There's just so many great stories come to mind.

04:08:38.000 I've been on so many, really, adventures and trips with Alex.

04:08:43.000 I can't... The one that pops into my mind always first, though, is when I went to New York with him, and it's in Truth Rising, of course.

04:08:51.000 We documented it.

04:08:52.000 We're all there with our cameras.

04:08:53.000 We're marching down one of the streets.

04:08:56.000 We're all, you know, 9-11 is an inside job.

04:09:00.000 And it was right in front of some kind of cop convention.

04:09:03.000 And you can see our cameras got swiped by these guys. 0.66

04:09:08.000 Drunk cops.

04:09:10.000 Who knows what the event was.

04:09:12.000 We do have the Marines were there.

04:09:14.000 That's on tape.

04:09:16.000 I don't know what the significance of that they were drunk and they were booing us and there were cops and we're just walking down that street and I'm like, whoa.

04:09:24.000 You know, this is an intense situation, and fortunately, you know, while it seemed like a powder keg, nothing went off, but it was an intense and high-energy situation.

04:09:36.000 I really felt proud for the guys for keeping their gumption.

04:09:39.000 9-11 was an inside job, you know, and I think it was the true spirit of the Truth Movement, you know.

04:09:46.000 At that point, I'll always remember that night, and it was very exciting, of course.

04:09:53.000 You know, and then there are other stories that come to mind.

04:09:56.000 Did you feel vulnerable when you were in New York City with all that?

04:10:00.000 I felt, you know, I felt like the cops gave us an unusual kind of presence there, I guess is the word, because I felt that if I would have separated from the group, I might have been at the mercy, I'm sorry to say, of the police.

04:10:18.000 Like, you know, obviously sometimes they conduct themselves a little bit more criminally than we need them to be.

04:10:25.000 And I felt if I would have separated, there would have been perhaps, I mean, there was a point when the cops were all pushing us back and somebody smashed into me and so everybody started screaming.

04:10:36.000 But when I was in the group, I kind of felt like the cops gave us this weird kind of, let's say, a respect that we're here, you know, they know That we're here to protect our free speech, to air our concerns against the government.

04:10:52.000 What we have observed that they have, the crime that they have committed, the people sitting in the seats of power, that we have observed them abusing their seats of power, voicing it.

04:11:03.000 And I felt like the cops kind of understood that at some level, even though they kept their arms crossed and they're looking at us.

04:11:10.000 Yeah, they have to keep the presence.

04:11:11.000 Now, that particular trip, was that the one that you guys were on?

04:11:14.000 Geraldo or is that a different track?

04:11:16.000 What happened is that we saw Geraldo, somebody noticed Geraldo on the big screen in Times Square and was like look he's live right now!

04:11:26.000 So since we're already all out there it's like well why not just walk three four blocks to where Fox News is broadcasting and go and check him out and that he was right there and Again, I mean, we went from passing in front of that cop, saw the cops doing that, right to Geraldo, where it just kept on going, like the energy did not stop.

04:11:46.000 And again, we have it all on Truthrise, and we captured the whole scene.

04:11:49.000 It was a great moment in, in my opinion, the truth movement.

04:11:53.000 It was a great moment in my life.

04:11:57.000 Now, did Alex get arrested that night?

04:11:59.000 Yes, he got arrested.

04:12:00.000 He got arrested.

04:12:01.000 Do you remember what the charge was?

04:12:02.000 The charge was, uh... Was it something about the bullhorn?

04:12:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

04:12:08.000 And what happened is, right after Geraldo, we all go marching to the police station.

04:12:12.000 And the police get overwhelmed, of course, with phone calls.

04:12:15.000 And in one hour, they let him go, of course.

04:12:19.000 uh... he could have spent the entire weekend in prison or jail jail over there waiting for a trial and you know that's the power of the media that's the power of you know we wouldn't put up with it we called up the police station you know he got released and there it goes.

04:12:34.000 It was just a big joke to begin with.

04:12:36.000 The chants were free Alex Jones, free Alex Jones and eventually they let him go.

04:12:42.000 Yeah we totally overwhelmed the police station.

04:12:44.000 The power of the press.

04:12:45.000 Now Russ you Besides doing magazines, you also have experience in radio, from what I understand.

04:12:51.000 Yeah, I mean, I've dabbled in radio, if you guys could tell by maybe by now, I don't know.

04:12:57.000 But yeah, I've produced probably...

04:13:01.000 Eight or nine different talk shows over the last, say, 17, 16 years.

04:13:05.000 So a lot of them were, you know, associated to my having owned Weird Magazine.

04:13:11.000 I owned Weird Magazine, so my radio gig was Weird Radio.

04:13:16.000 So I was doing Weird Magazine, doing Weird Radio, and then, you know, had a lot of paranormal stuff.

04:13:21.000 A lot of guests, like, I've had Phil Berg on before, but we'd also get into entertainment, and I'd had on Elvira.

04:13:29.000 Cheech and Chong, rock stars often would come on.

04:13:35.000 Maybe not Billy Corrigan with Smashing Pumpkins, but we certainly had the opportunity to interview Gwar and some metal bands and things like that.

04:13:42.000 I've actually played shows with Gwar, by the way.

04:13:45.000 On a side note, I've played shows with Gwar.

04:13:47.000 You've played shows with Gwar.

04:13:50.000 I almost got beat up by their drummer one time.

04:13:53.000 Let's hear this story, Marcos.

04:13:55.000 Let's interject.

04:13:56.000 We're talking entertainment.

04:13:57.000 That was one of my areas.

04:13:58.000 I was opening up for GWAR early on in my career.

04:14:02.000 That's not Russell Dowden, by the way.

04:14:05.000 Oh, yeah.

04:14:05.000 Sorry.

04:14:05.000 Yeah, fix that.

04:14:06.000 Fix that, Marcos.

04:14:08.000 I'm actually over here punching the show, too, so I'm getting excited and jumping in and forgetting stuff is up.

04:14:14.000 I actually was taking my stuff out of backstage and saw the drummer taking all of his equipment off.

04:14:21.000 And I saw these big flaps of man flesh just fall down.

04:14:24.000 And I went up and grabbed one because I was already celebrating.

04:14:27.000 I was like, I'm playing with war!

04:14:30.000 I grabbed one of them and I was like, good show!

04:14:32.000 And shook it.

04:14:34.000 And he hit me with a forearm.

04:14:35.000 Boom! 0.99

04:14:36.000 And I went flying over some cords.

04:14:38.000 That was my war experience there.

04:14:42.000 Cool.

04:14:42.000 Now, I guess, you know, to take the curtains off a little bit, people, you know, always want to know, like, what are we interested in?

04:14:48.000 And people know, who watch this show, I'm obviously a gun right advocate and a comic book nerd.

04:14:53.000 But Marco, since we were just talking about your experiences, why don't you tell us a little bit about, you have a band, right?

04:15:00.000 We can't hear you.

04:15:00.000 I do.

04:15:01.000 I have a band called the Dead Sea.

04:15:06.000 Oh, taking the wrong button.

04:15:08.000 See that?

04:15:08.000 You're getting me confused.

04:15:09.000 I am.

04:15:09.000 Getting y'all excited.

04:15:10.000 Getting excited.

04:15:11.000 I do, man.

04:15:13.000 You know, that was actually my first exposure to counterculture.

04:15:18.000 I got into music because it was an easy way for me to express my ideas and frustrations with society.

04:15:24.000 You know, I had to encompass my message in this appealing, you know, piece of music to draw people in to listen to it and then You know, hit him with the message like, hey, your world is screwed up and it's our fault because we're not paying attention.

04:15:24.000 Right.

04:15:39.000 Yeah.

04:15:40.000 And that was.

04:15:41.000 You know, it was one of the appeals to it.

04:15:44.000 Like, I could put these world messages in art that people would pay attention to and get my messages out there.

04:15:50.000 And then when this job came along, I was like, you mean the message is blatant?

04:15:55.000 I can talk like this?

04:15:56.000 In, like, direct terms?

04:15:59.000 Talk to people?

04:15:59.000 Well, you guys do the talking.

04:16:02.000 I'm just sort of like one of the platforms you guys stand on with the graphics, but...

04:16:07.000 You know, I got to use my skills for these blatant messages instead of trying to, you know, swirl around in people's heads with art and like get them to...

04:16:18.000 Subliminally, with these messages.

04:16:22.000 So, Russ, go ahead.

04:16:25.000 To Marcus's credit, man, he does a fabulous job.

04:16:27.000 He really does.

04:16:29.000 Very, very impressive stuff that he does.

04:16:33.000 But, no, just back to me, I've been in radio for a long time and media, worked in newspaper, print, obviously in marketing.

04:16:43.000 Met Alex actually in person at the old television station about 12 years ago and was involved and I was involved.

04:16:53.000 I was actually training as a producer, Rob, to become a producer at the Access television station when Alex

04:17:02.000 announced that uh... that july uh... stop the uh... nine eleven stop the terrorist thing like that the pre nine eleven attack broadcast i was actually in uh... dv three sony dv three hundred training class back then and all that summer of oh one uh... when he made that uh... infamous broadcast uh... operations stop the terrorists i believe was his uh... famous broadcast but um...

04:17:27.000 Yeah, print, print media, a little bit of TV, a lot of radio.

04:17:31.000 It's been my background and I've been a big fan of Alex's over the years and just to be here kind of hanging out with you guys, it's just, it's surreal for me.

04:17:40.000 But here we are kicking out of the InfoWars magazine and doing a little Moneybomb shoutout.

04:17:45.000 So just a lot of fun to be in here and actually talk in front of a microphone and hang out with you guys.

04:17:51.000 Yeah, and just before we go to break, I want to go to Jacobson.

04:17:53.000 We'll start with this question for you, Jacobson.

04:17:55.000 Alright.

04:17:56.000 What was your awakening?

04:17:57.000 We get that question a lot.

04:17:58.000 Like, what was your moment where you said, hey, there's a glitch in the matrix?

04:18:02.000 Well, it's interesting because before I moved here, you know, I grew up in New York and I lived there until I was about 25 and then I decided to move here.

04:18:11.000 And when I was there, I kind of had a sense that, because I was reading all sorts of books, like whatever I found on the street, and one of the books I found, as controversial as it is, it did actually open my mind.

04:18:22.000 And just to mention the authors, Robert Anton Wilson, Vore Cosmic Trigger, and this was in 98, alright, so it's not like...

04:18:32.000 I was really, you know, I was still dabbling in books.

04:18:34.000 Yeah, you're trying to figure out what was going on.

04:18:36.000 Trying to figure out what's up, what's down, and actually, that actually, the message that I got from that book was, besides all the other messages in that book that I'm sure it's absolutely layered with, is an open mind is a working, functioning brain, is one of the messages, and that's the message I pulled from it, and I keep it to this day because, and

04:18:56.000 It did make a lot of sense to me that the more you believe in something, the less you're going to accept of the truth because if it's outside of your reality tunnel, you're not going to even see it.

04:19:08.000 Because you're in the paradigm.

04:19:09.000 You're in a paradigm of belief and there could be something outside of your belief system that's real that you're not going to notice because you just don't believe it.

04:19:20.000 Because of that, so then I moved to Austin, and one of the first, you know, I had like three bags with me, a blow-up mattress, and a... I have a blow-up mattress.

04:19:30.000 Yeah, my sister actually bought me a TV set, like, this will keep you company, you know?

04:19:36.000 And flipping through all the channels, the only channel that I actually landed on every single time was Public Access.

04:19:42.000 And one of the guys on Public Access all the time, before 9-11, was still Alex Jones.

04:19:46.000 Right.

04:19:47.000 And I'm, you know, da-da-da, my apartment, da-da-da, and all of a sudden Alex is like, oh, look at this!

04:19:52.000 Water!

04:19:53.000 With fluoride for babies!

04:19:55.000 And I was like, what?

04:19:56.000 That is true!

04:19:57.000 Like, why are they putting fluoride in water for babies?

04:20:01.000 And it was right there on the label, and it just caught my attention, and I've never been able to turn away from that fascination.

04:20:10.000 And then, when 9-11 happened, I was working in Austin.

04:20:15.000 We had an Austin Music Network, which was a city-funded music network.

04:20:20.000 It was one of the only ones.

04:20:22.000 It was very unique, and it was very interesting work there, too.

04:20:26.000 And I was working there while 9-11 happened, and I just remembered, like, that day, like, you know, like most other people. 0.97

04:20:33.000 I was like, oh my God, those, you know, the Arabs are crazy. 1.00

04:20:37.000 What are they doing? 0.99

04:20:37.000 We're only going to go over there and, you know. 0.99

04:20:40.000 Yeah, they don't know who they're messing with.

04:20:43.000 And then, literally, I remembered Alex within 30 or 40 minutes of that happening, I was like, wait a minute, maybe this is what Alex was talking about all along.

04:20:52.000 And from that point on, it was just like my mind was changed, just thinking of the show, thinking of the information that was here, Alex was giving us the information, Infowars, and on that day, like, Just based on everything I thought about at that point.

04:21:06.000 On 9-11?

04:21:07.000 I changed my mind right then and there.

04:21:07.000 On 9-11.

04:21:09.000 I was like, you know what?

04:21:10.000 Maybe this isn't what they're saying.

04:21:11.000 Like my first impulse, of course, within an hour, but probably only an hour or so, I was like, well, that's crazy that they're doing.

04:21:18.000 But then it occurred to me.

04:21:20.000 Everything that Alex was saying right then and there just piled in my mind.

04:21:23.000 I was like, This is probably what Alex was talking about all along, you know?

04:21:27.000 And it was.

04:21:28.000 And, you know, he called it before it happened.

04:21:31.000 Before it happened, that's a good point.

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04:22:27.000 Weeks away, and many Obama supporters are already threatening to riot should Obama lose.

04:22:35.000 I'm Darren McBreen, reporting for InfoWars Nightly News.

04:22:39.000 Now we covered this past week the numerous threats that are dominating Facebook and Twitter accounts, illustrating the fact that they are a legitimate expression of how many Obama supporters plan to respond if Romney comes out on top.

04:22:55.000 And checking Twitter feeds again this morning, we discovered that threats to riot on behalf of Obama supporters are still flooding in.

04:23:04.000 Even going as far as targeting Mitt Romney with death threats.

04:23:08.000 Well, should all this rhetoric be taken seriously, or are these Obamanites just full of hot air? 1.00

04:23:15.000 Well, as a reminder of just how quickly and how easily a massive riot can erupt in our country, well, we revisit the 1992 L.A. riots from South Central Los Angeles.

04:23:26.000 The 1992 L.A. riots.

04:23:33.000 riots were a series of race riots that occurred over a six-day period in greater Los Angeles.

04:23:39.000 They began after a jury trial acquitted four L.A.

04:23:43.000 police officers in the videotaped beating of Rodney King.

04:23:47.000 Thousands of people rioted throughout Los Angeles following the announcement of the verdict.

04:23:52.000 Widespread looting, assaults, arson, and murder occurred, and estimates of property damages topped $1 billion.

04:23:59.000 53 people were killed during those six days and over 2,000 people were injured.

04:24:05.000 This history lesson could be a stern warning of what we can expect to see widespread throughout the country should Obama fail to secure a second term.

04:24:20.000 The End

04:24:44.000 I made it because you didn't make it.

04:25:05.000 Don't destroy my business.

04:25:06.000 Just watch my back, sir.

04:25:08.000 I don't know if you're playing outside. 0.99

04:25:10.000 I hate you! 1.00

04:25:12.000 If you this nigga's too damn bad, I don't destroy my stuff! 1.00

04:25:19.000 Don't burn down my soul! 1.00

04:25:21.000 Come on, Uncle.

04:25:22.000 I don't work too hard for this!

04:25:24.000 People don't even understand nothing.

04:25:26.000 Come on.

04:25:27.000 That's not right!

04:25:29.000 It's not right!

04:25:31.000 It's not right, but don't do it!

04:25:33.000 Oh, stop it! 0.95

04:25:35.000 Oh, stop stop it! 0.86

04:26:05.000 Oh, stop it! 0.95

04:26:08.000 Oh, yeah!

04:26:09.000 Move! 0.97

04:26:10.000 We got a radio!

04:26:12.000 No!

04:26:13.000 Get out of here! 0.99

04:26:31.000 Get out of here! 0.99

04:26:34.000 Get out! 0.98

04:26:36.000 I'm out!

04:26:37.000 I'm out, I'm out, I'm out.

04:26:39.000 Come out of there, come out.

04:26:46.000 I came from the ghetto too!

04:26:46.000 Come out!

04:26:49.000 Same as all of you did!

04:26:50.000 Y'all need to listen to me!

04:26:52.000 But you know, y'all, y'all messed up my business!

04:26:56.000 And you called it black power! 0.99

04:26:58.000 You made the white man want to destroy my business! 0.95

04:27:04.000 Why destroy my truck? 0.93

04:27:07.000 Why steal my computer?

04:27:09.000 I'm trying to make it!

04:27:11.000 Could you understand that?

04:27:13.000 They don't see it!

04:27:15.000 I'm trying to make it!

04:27:17.000 Just start listening.

04:27:19.000 Hey, hey man.

04:27:32.000 Why are you doing this in your community, man?

04:27:32.000 Hey, hey.

04:27:34.000 These clothes belong to some of your neighbors.

04:27:35.000 Nope.

04:27:36.000 You don't care?

04:27:38.000 I don't care.

04:27:39.000 Why?

04:27:39.000 I mean, but what are the... Like, how can you explain this, man?

04:27:44.000 Is this gonna solve anything?

04:27:47.000 I'm 39 before in a couple months and so help me God I never seen parents teaching children to steal!

04:27:54.000 I mean breaking the windows down and pushing the kids in the store to steal!

04:27:57.000 If I had done that my mom would beat the stuffers out of me if she had caught me stealing! 0.97

04:28:01.000 But these parents teaching their kids to steal, I can't understand it!

04:28:04.000 Would they ever take their kids to church?

04:28:06.000 Would they ever teach them to believe in Jesus?

04:28:08.000 I don't believe this stuff!

04:28:09.000 I just can't!

04:28:11.000 He was trying to use a tear gas, and then, after he spilled the tear gas, then he go in the prison.

04:28:16.000 Who are you?

04:28:17.000 I work here.

04:28:17.000 My name's Captain Lewis.

04:28:18.000 You work for who?

04:28:19.000 I work for the prison, California State Prison.

04:28:21.000 Why do you have a gun now?

04:28:24.000 Because he, he was trying to get in there.

04:28:26.000 Did you have to use a gun on anybody?

04:28:28.000 No.

04:28:29.000 Okay, did you, I mean, is that what you loaded?

04:28:31.000 Yeah, but I just, just for protection.

04:28:33.000 I can't get in that way.

04:28:43.000 He's already torn off the side.

04:28:45.000 There we go.

04:28:56.000 Look at this.

04:28:56.000 This is inside a Kenny's shoe store.

04:28:59.000 And, you know, it's party time.

04:29:01.000 These people are smiling, as you heard.

04:29:02.000 They don't care.

04:29:03.000 They know it's illegal.

04:29:04.000 They don't care.

04:29:04.000 But I'll tell you what happened moments later.

04:29:06.000 The Korean merchants and store owners who own that shopping complex, they were talking to me for a moment.

04:29:11.000 They said they were fed up.

04:29:12.000 They walked away.

04:29:13.000 Next thing I knew, they walked out of their stores.

04:29:15.000 Three of them were holding guns and they just started firing at everybody and anybody.

04:29:19.000 Three of them were holding guns and they just started firing at everybody.

04:29:49.000 Three of them were holding guns and they just started firing at everybody.

04:29:55.000 Then what happened, apparently a car full of some young black kids pulled up on the other side and they started shooting back.

04:30:01.000 You're going to start to see what they noticed what was going on.

04:30:03.000 They started shooting back and we were right in the middle of it.

04:30:06.000 They're pulling the driver out of the van and they're kicking the driver and beating the driver.

04:30:13.000 The driver's only mistake was entering the series. 0.57

04:30:16.000 He's been kicked in the head.

04:30:17.000 He's laying in the street.

04:30:19.000 Okay, this is it.

04:30:21.000 Terrible, terrible pictures!

04:30:24.000 This is what... All this guy did was enter this area.

04:30:28.000 That's his only crime.

04:30:30.000 Hit the siren, Doug.

04:30:32.000 Yes.

04:30:36.000 He... Okay, this guy is laying in the street.

04:30:38.000 Hit the siren, Doug.

04:30:40.000 He is bleeding unconscious in the street.

04:30:49.000 Ross?

04:30:50.000 Oh, it's tragic.

04:30:52.000 The man is unconscious in the street.

04:30:54.000 He's still, people are still coming up and throwing things at this poor individual.

04:30:59.000 Well, the rioting finally ended after soldiers from the National Guard and the U.S.

04:31:05.000 Marines were called in to take over.

04:31:07.000 And given the fact that Americans routinely riot in response to sporting events that don't go their way, well, the notion that civil unrest could occur if Obama is defeated, well, it's perfectly plausible.

04:31:21.000 Respected black economist and philosopher Thomas Sowell warned of race riots if Obama And the federal government has clearly been preparing for such a fallout with huge ammunition purchases.

04:31:34.000 Meanwhile, police departments across the country are also preparing for civil unrest.

04:31:40.000 I'm Darren McBreen for the InfoWars Nightly News.

04:31:43.000 Those are busted out.

04:31:46.000 And it's like a referral here.

04:31:48.000 And the owners should need to come down here.

04:31:50.000 You need to secure this business.

04:31:51.000 Thanks, you want to.

04:31:52.000 Thank you.

04:32:22.000 Thank you.

04:32:43.000 All right, there you go.

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04:33:19.000 139 once again that's 1-888-253-3139 okay we were playing musical chairs a little bit we've come back and now we have in studio mr darren mcbrain wow You couldn't keep me out of here.

04:33:35.000 We couldn't keep him out.

04:33:36.000 As you guys just saw the video about the LA riots, Darren McBrain was actually there.

04:33:41.000 I had a chance to interview him about this.

04:33:43.000 Well, he drove past it.

04:33:45.000 He drove past it, okay.

04:33:46.000 I had a chance to interview him about this on InfoWars Nightly News.

04:33:49.000 So, just to finish up, a few more thoughts.

04:33:51.000 Darren, tell us what was going on in that footage.

04:33:54.000 Well, all kinds of things were going on in that footage, but let me tell you what happened.

04:33:57.000 What I remember, I was coming back from the LA Civic Center that day.

04:34:02.000 Working out there, and you know, every once in a while you'll be driving down the freeway, you might see a fire.

04:34:09.000 You know, I just saw a fire.

04:34:10.000 Okay, a building's on fire, no big deal.

04:34:12.000 You know, a couple miles later, there was another fire, and then another fire.

04:34:12.000 Right.

04:34:15.000 I was like, oh my God, you know, what the hell's going on?

04:34:18.000 Turned on the radio and I found out about the riots, and of course I knew about the Rodney King trial, and then we found out that the police officers were, you know, they We're not guilty. 0.99

04:34:27.000 And I was angry about that myself because Rodney, he got his butt kicked. 0.99

04:34:32.000 Those guys deserve some kind of penalty. 0.99

04:34:35.000 So then the LA riots, that's how it started.

04:34:38.000 And it was a weird man, there was a weird aura in the air.

04:34:41.000 People were driving, even for Los Angeles, just more erratically than normal.

04:34:45.000 And, um, I wanted, you know, I got the hell out of there.

04:34:48.000 But, um, you know, luckily traffic wasn't too bad.

04:34:50.000 Got home in, you know, 20, 30 minutes or so.

04:34:52.000 Turned on the TV and watched the rest of it.

04:34:54.000 I did go back the next day, because I told you last time we talked.

04:34:57.000 That a friend of ours, uh, my brother and I, um, she needed a ride.

04:34:57.000 Right.

04:35:01.000 She lived in L.A., so we volunteered to escort her home.

04:35:04.000 And he drove her car, and I followed, and we took her home without incident, but we did manage to check out some of the damage the next day.

04:35:13.000 And it went on for six days.

04:35:15.000 I mean, it went on and on and on.

04:35:17.000 They eventually had to call in the National Guard, the 7th Infantry, and even the United States Marine Corps had to come in.

04:35:25.000 15,000 troops in total were called in to Los Angeles to restore order back then.

04:35:30.000 That was 1992, yeah.

04:35:32.000 Now we were brought up this topic of rioting because we hear these reports of Obama supporters.

04:35:38.000 I actually have the article right here if you guys can get a dot cam.

04:35:41.000 New threats to riot if Obama loses the election.

04:35:45.000 Despite the issue receiving national media attention, Obama supporters continue to threaten to riot if Mitt Romney wins the presidential election.

04:35:53.000 Now as we talked earlier, we saw numerous Twitter feeds many people directly and indirectly threatening Mitt Romney and even in some cases Barack Obama saying like yeah I'm gonna get my rifle and I'm gonna shoot Romney and Obama.

04:36:07.000 You know and like we said most of these just people you know just popping off at the mail but like we talked about if one out of 100 of these are real threats I mean these are serious threats and they're also threats of riots.

04:36:17.000 Yeah, they might write if Obama wins.

04:36:21.000 As a celebration.

04:36:23.000 Like the Lakers win a championship or something.

04:36:25.000 You never know.

04:36:28.000 My point of view of all this is that a lot of guests came on the show already and talked about how the mainstream media is putting that option on the table for people and that's a really sophisticated trick they play On the general population is what they're doing.

04:36:44.000 They could say anything and put it on the table as long as it's all a coordinated thing and it seems real to somebody who is addicted to television.

04:36:55.000 Their world is displaced into the television set.

04:36:57.000 So when they suggest something like riot, it puts a lot of ideas into people's heads, even if you have like, oh, don't riot, you know, and you've all heard the thing about affirmations, you know, all you have to do, you put a negative in front of the action word and all you really get is the action word.

04:37:16.000 So don't riot is riot.

04:37:19.000 You know, that's what the mind picks up is the action.

04:37:21.000 Now, James, I heard you talk about something before about how to actually start a riot.

04:37:27.000 You say you plant people in crowds?

04:37:29.000 Yeah, what happened is I read Jim Morrison's, it was a biography by him.

04:37:33.000 I read that too.

04:37:34.000 Yeah, by Danny Sugarman.

04:37:36.000 Okay.

04:37:38.000 And basically he talks about what Jim said, how he recalls Jim was talking about... This isn't Jacobson, so guys don't be saying, don't say that InfoWars is trying to start riots, this isn't a book that he read.

04:37:51.000 This is a book about Jim Morrison and this is...

04:37:55.000 His plan that he had when he was in UCLA to start a riot and basically by placing you know people in specific points in a crowd and in unison in a coordinated way acting up and he figured that there are like pressure points in crowds just like there are pressure points in the human body and all that.

04:38:17.000 So if you put specific people in certain spots of the crowd and you have them all act up at the same time You could trigger a riot.

04:38:25.000 And that was Jim Arson's, you know, experiment.

04:38:29.000 And his friends allegedly in UCLA basically all chickened out at the last second.

04:38:35.000 Like, I'm not gonna do that, you know?

04:38:37.000 But this reminds me of what the possibilities are.

04:38:40.000 We could have an agent provocateur type of situation.

04:38:43.000 Even if no one wants to riot, then they could say, look, let's say Obama loses the election, right?

04:38:48.000 They could spread rumors that there's some kind of voter fraud.

04:38:51.000 Oh, not voter fraud.

04:38:53.000 Yeah, well, not in America.

04:38:54.000 But a lot of people would feel disenfranchised.

04:38:57.000 And then Agent Provocateur would perhaps start a riot here, start a riot there.

04:39:03.000 And I'm telling you, man, it doesn't take long.

04:39:05.000 These things could expand.

04:39:07.000 And next thing you know, it's a whole nation of rioting going on.

04:39:10.000 Because, you know, even in the L.A.

04:39:12.000 riots, that was spreading nationwide.

04:39:14.000 Oh, yeah.

04:39:15.000 Copycats.

04:39:16.000 Yeah, absolutely.

04:39:17.000 You know what's even more scary is that, you know, it could spread nationwide or they could really, if it's not spreading the way they want to, they can move their camera teams in into these little isolated riots that they maybe started and it's not taking off they want and show it to the people as if it's a major riot starting.

04:39:37.000 And they can misrepresent it to really urge people to get out there and start rioting.

04:39:42.000 They want an excuse to come in and have martial law and take over.

04:39:46.000 So this could be the big false flag that we've been hearing about.

04:39:50.000 They say on MSNBC that Obama needs a false flag attack to reconnect with American people.

04:39:55.000 You know, we keep hearing about that.

04:39:57.000 I would just say this to everybody out there, whether you're a Romney supporter, Obama supporter, or Infowarrior like the rest of us, and you could see through the paradigms, But if you are going to go out and vote for Democrat or Republican, this is what I say, if you're not one of those people who are planning to go out and riot after the elections, and you happen to heard chatter of people who did, I would just urge everybody out there, if you've heard chatter of people like, if that happens, maybe I will, talk them out of it.

04:40:23.000 Just talk them out of it.

04:40:25.000 Say you're being tricked, you're being, they're very sophisticated individuals, Well, you don't have to say that. 1.00

04:40:31.000 Just say, man, that's stupid. 1.00

04:40:32.000 It's dumb. 1.00

04:40:32.000 Don't do it. 1.00

04:40:33.000 It's a bad idea.

04:40:34.000 It's not going to get anybody anywhere.

04:40:36.000 It's only going to hurt the people who are actually rioting.

04:40:39.000 And that's the idea that you want to tell people.

04:40:42.000 If you riot, you're going to hurt yourself. 0.99

04:40:44.000 You're going to shoot yourself in the foot. 0.97

04:40:46.000 Just like I never understood these sports riots. 0.89

04:40:47.000 Your team wins, and then you tear up your own city in celebration.

04:40:51.000 That never made any sense to me.

04:40:53.000 Now, we'll get back to the topic we had before we went to break, and that was, what was your awakening?

04:40:58.000 So if we can go now to Marcos.

04:41:00.000 Marcos, what was your awakening?

04:41:02.000 What was your moment of clarity?

04:41:05.000 I've actually had a few moments of clarity.

04:41:08.000 Well, give us the first one.

04:41:10.000 Or the best one, whatever you think.

04:41:12.000 One of the first ones, I started questioning authority and questioning the people that are telling you what's good for you to do with your own life.

04:41:19.000 I was a young kid.

04:41:20.000 I was raised Catholic.

04:41:22.000 And I'm not necessarily knocking the Catholic religion, I'm knocking these particular people that I ran into. 0.88

04:41:27.000 Right.

04:41:28.000 We were out with my family.

04:41:31.000 My dad had just started a business and was just starting to make enough money to do something like go out to eat with the family.

04:41:39.000 So we go to this nice restaurant and while we're there we run into three Catholic priests from around our town.

04:41:46.000 It's a small town so everybody knows everybody in the town.

04:41:48.000 Sounds like a joke almost, Mark.

04:41:50.000 You're walking into a restaurant and three Catholic priests are in there.

04:41:54.000 And it was like a Mandarin restaurant too.

04:41:56.000 So three Catholic priests walking into a Mandarin restaurant.

04:42:01.000 Anyway, so we're at this like really fancy restaurant in my small town of Lubbock.

04:42:06.000 There wasn't a whole lot of fancy restaurants at the time.

04:42:08.000 So I was already a little flabbergasted because I knew all the stories of the Catholic priests, their vows of, you know, what's it about?

04:42:20.000 Poverty, vow of poverty, things like that.

04:42:22.000 So I see these guys, sharply dressed, in a really nice restaurant.

04:42:28.000 And my dad even offers to buy them dinner.

04:42:30.000 He's like, I'm gonna show off, I'm gonna buy the priest dinner.

04:42:34.000 So they think I'm on the way out, and we're all leaving at the same time.

04:42:37.000 And I see all three of these guys get into three separate nice cars, Lincolns, Cadillacs.

04:42:44.000 And I know that I go to Sunday, I go to church every Sunday and see all the people giving money to these guys and they're up there just preaching, you know, they're telling these guys what to do and they're preaching these...

04:42:58.000 You know, these ways of, like, taking care of each other, and then we're scooping up this money, and then we're getting in these nice cars and driving off.

04:43:04.000 And that was... I was probably, like, 13, maybe 14.

04:43:07.000 And I just really started questioning hard everybody who came at me with, you know, prescribed ways of life.

04:43:15.000 I started questioning everything, everybody.

04:43:18.000 That's a good thing to have.

04:43:19.000 I don't mean so much the questioning of authority, but questioning the official story.

04:43:24.000 Even if you watch InfoWars, just don't take our word for it.

04:43:28.000 When we show you an article, we show you a document on screen, go and read that document.

04:43:32.000 We give you these headlines for a reason, so you can read this Mitt Romney article I have right here on the desk.

04:43:37.000 So I'll go next.

04:43:39.000 My moment of clarity, I guess you would say, was in I was in college, my first time I went to college, and I saw the movie Loose Chains.

04:43:48.000 And just some of the basic elements of the story, of the official 9-11 story, such as Building 7 collapsing.

04:43:56.000 If you guys, anybody who's familiar with the World Trade Center site, knows that Buildings 4 and 5 were hit heavily by the damage of the two twin towers, and they had to be torn down, as opposed to Building 7, which was nicked.

04:44:09.000 And collapsed from an internal fire and also the passport escaping the firebomb and the engine that was found in the Pentagon not even being the engine from the plane they said hit the Pentagon.

04:44:21.000 I mean just real basic stuff.

04:44:23.000 So but I don't want to take up too much time.

04:44:25.000 Darren McBrain, you're awakening.

04:44:28.000 2001, 9-11, Road to Tyranny.

04:44:30.000 Maybe it was 2002.

04:44:31.000 I mean Alex came out with that real quick, man.

04:44:34.000 And before then, I was starting to get a sense that something wasn't right.

04:44:40.000 I had been a conservative my whole life.

04:44:44.000 Came from a family of law enforcement family and a military family.

04:44:48.000 Most of my brothers were all military.

04:44:50.000 We're all hardcore conservatives.

04:44:52.000 And I did not like Bush, man.

04:44:54.000 I did not like Bush.

04:44:55.000 There was something about George Bush that I just knew. 0.99

04:44:58.000 He was a phony. 0.68

04:44:59.000 And they were just surprised, like, you know, what, you want Al Gore? 0.96

04:45:02.000 I'll take Al Gore over George Bush.

04:45:06.000 So it was back in, you know, I was still asleep, of course, but I was going to accept the lesser of two evils.

04:45:11.000 And then when Bush won, I found out about a lot of voter fraud and I tried to present it to my family members and they didn't want to, they're just like, you know, they didn't want to hear it.

04:45:22.000 And then I started to investigate how that election went down and just thought, you know, wow, man, I mean, if we don't have free elections in this country, something's wrong.

04:45:31.000 And then later, Greg Palast came out, and Greg Palast was, well, he was on the show yesterday, Start Off the Money Bomb.

04:45:36.000 He was in Early Morning Hours with Alex.

04:45:38.000 Greg Palast, excellent journalist, uncovered all kinds of voter fraud in that election, and then once I realized that You know, we got these die-bold voting systems, electronic voting systems.

04:45:49.000 Once that, you know, I came to the realization of that, that our votes don't count, then, you know, where are we?

04:45:57.000 That's when I really started to wake up.

04:45:57.000 Oh yeah.

04:45:59.000 And then, you know, what's funny is once you do wake up, That's when history lessons really begin.

04:46:06.000 I mean, you become a student for life at that time because you have to relearn everything that you were taught.

04:46:12.000 So, I had to go back and take a look at the Gulf War I, which I supported, you know, and then take a re-look at history, and I think, you know, most everybody who awakens, they do the exact same thing.

04:46:24.000 That's exactly right, because so many people, and Jacobson, you can hop in here whenever you're ready.

04:46:29.000 They have to go back and look at what was told to them, just, you know, 9-11.

04:46:32.000 I never questioned the story until I just took the time to watch the Loose Chains video.

04:46:36.000 So, Rob Jacobson?

04:46:39.000 Well, I mean, I feel like, you know, I've always questioned things, but it wasn't until, like, 9-11 happened I got involved here at InfoWars that I really started going back and looking at history, too, you know?

04:46:51.000 I mean, I really wasn't much of a history student in school, like, Really couldn't care less when I was in school.

04:46:58.000 It was a really boring class to me and now I've learned that it's probably deliberately boring to turn me off from ever wanting to go there at all.

04:47:06.000 But coming here, I mean, I've learned how interesting history really is when presented in the real way.

04:47:11.000 Like, real history, real people.

04:47:14.000 The real struggle, the actual globalists, you know, to see what's going on behind the curtain opened my mind and I did a lot of reading and a lot of research myself and I got up to speed.

04:47:25.000 Up to this point, of course, there's always a lifetime of learning left to do, you know, and to think back when I was in high school, in junior high school, how You know, distant I was from the information and even how they were keeping me from the information and basically telling me their, you know, cherry-picked version of history.

04:47:44.000 You know, I kind of do feel betrayed by a system that, you know, I grew up in.

04:47:52.000 This and that, you know, you grow up and you think that everybody's okay and even bad people have good things, you know, that's generally going to be good.

04:48:01.000 The bad people are going to be devoured by all the good in the system and I kind of, alright, you know, this is just the way it is and I'm just not interested in it and now I know that's not the way it is at all.

04:48:12.000 It was a deliberate effort to Right.

04:48:15.000 You know, it was an indoctrination center.

04:48:17.000 That's exactly what it is, indoctrination, because these teachers, many of them, they have to read from these textbooks that they know are false because of their own experiences.

04:48:26.000 But anyway, that's our time for this section of the InfoWars Money Bomb.

04:48:30.000 I know, Darren, we want to do some more, but if you would like to donate to the InfoWars Money Bomb, which funds our operation here, you can donate at InfoWarsMoneyBomb.com and also 1-888- 2-5-3-3-1-3-9.

04:48:43.000 Again, that's 1-8-8-8-2-5-3-3-1-3-9.

04:48:43.000 Darren McBreen, Rob Jacobson, Marcos Rallison.

04:48:49.000 I'm Jakari Jackson from InfoWars Nightly News, and stay tuned for David Knight.

04:48:54.000 InfoWarriors Unite!

04:49:00.000 I was running down the street

Alex Jones Show - October 19, 2012

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