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00:00:50.000 It's Tuesday, November 12th.

00:01:00.000 This is the Alex Jones Show.

00:01:03.000 I'm Paul Joseph Watson, filling in today for the first hour.

00:01:07.000 Alex is out sick, so the first hour will be me.

00:01:10.000 I've got some special guests coming up, and the second two hours of the show will be rebroadcast, but...

00:01:16.000 It's day two of the Opt Out and Film week.

00:01:19.000 The backlash against the TSA continues.

00:01:22.000 And at the bottom of the hour, we're going to be talking with Dan Dix of Press For Truth TV and TSA Opt Out and Film campaign organiser Ashley Jessica.

00:01:34.000 You probably heard them on the show yesterday briefly.

00:01:36.000 They travelled to Buffalo Airport there in New York And basically ran into some hassle.

00:01:45.000 They were expecting it, of course, with the TSA.

00:01:48.000 The police got involved, from what I hear.

00:01:51.000 Don't know the full details of it, but I'm definitely fascinated to find out.

00:01:55.000 So we're going to be talking to them at the bottom of the hour.

00:01:58.000 They were involved in the TSA opt-out and film campaign protest.

00:02:03.000 And we're also going to be talking to a father who's running with the TSA, led to his baby son laying face down on the floor, bleeding.

00:02:13.000 Wait until you hear about this one.

00:02:15.000 We're going to go to that here in the next segment.

00:02:18.000 Kicking off with some news though, and obviously the TSA's in the frame here.

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00:02:25.000 Cancer victim forced to go through TSA body scanner despite opting out.

00:02:31.000 Now this is an email I received about two hours before going on air.

00:02:35.000 I also received another email from a traveler yesterday saying basically the same thing and it appears as if in some cases the TSA is actually forcing people to go through the naked x-ray radiation firing body scanners even though they exercise their right, and it is their right within the United States, to opt out.

00:03:00.000 They're actually forcing them, lying to them against their own TSA policy, and saying that you have to go through the scanner, it's mandatory, when of course we know it's not.

00:03:10.000 And this was a cancer victim concerned with, I mean she's in remission now, but she was concerned by the effects of the radiation scanner.

00:03:19.000 And she emailed me today to say, quote, I was in the New Orleans airport and asked to opt out.

00:03:24.000 They made me go through the x-ray and I had to go through a pat-down.

00:03:28.000 So even though she went through the body scanner, she got the invasive grope down anyway.

00:03:34.000 I'm sure that this is in violation of the TSA's policy, of course we know that's true.

00:03:39.000 I was reduced to tears, writes Lynn Baker.

00:03:44.000 Quote, I wish I had the video but I wanted to pass this along even without.

00:03:47.000 It shouldn't make any difference but I have cancer and do not want the scans to trigger the cancer as I am currently in remission, she adds.

00:03:58.000 So basically, this is a cancer victim who was in tears, crying, because when she legally exercised her right to opt out of the radiation firing body scanner, she was told in no uncertain terms by the TSA agent, get in the scanner now, we're gonna make you do it.

00:04:14.000 And obviously, You know, if you've got guys being arrested as terrorists, as bombers, for having a artistic watch, as happened on the weekend, they're being arrested as potential terrorists, their bail's been set at, you know, $150,000, then there's a very significant pull to obey whatever the TSA agent says, because of course, you could be labelled a terrorist, just as during the last National Opt-Out Day protest back in 2010,

00:04:45.000 Which, of course, the TSA responded to by mothballing the scanners on that very day as a political stunt to try and neutralise the protest.

00:04:55.000 People who opted out during that time were also characterised as terrorists.

00:04:58.000 In fact, there was a segment on The View, the popular ABC show, where, you know, Whoopi Goldberg and all the others on the show actually called people terrorists, or potential terrorists, simply for exercising their right to opt out.

00:05:14.000 So we're going to continue speaking about this after the break with our guest, Kevin Ryan, who was the father who went through TSA security with his wife, with his baby son, and that's what happened after the break.

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00:08:51.000 Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your email without warrants.

00:08:55.000 This is one of the top stories up at prisonplanet.com.

00:08:58.000 And basically they've rewritten this email surveillance bill, which is now being introduced in the Senate.

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00:10:02.000 Another story we've got up on there is TSA issues warning over opt-out and film week.

00:10:06.000 And the TSA has officially acknowledged the Infowars opt-out and film protest and warned that despite the fact that it is prohibited, not prohibited, to film the TSA at checkpoints, local laws may allow police to intervene and prevent such activity.

00:10:22.000 So basically the TSA came out in a blog post and said, yeah, our own policy says you can film, there's nothing wrong with it.

00:10:31.000 But if you do, you may get the police involved and you have to obey local ordinances.

00:10:35.000 Of course, the First Court of Appeals has repeatedly ruled that it is completely legal under the First Amendment to film police officers.

00:10:44.000 TSA officials are not police officers.

00:10:47.000 They have to go through zero training, yet they're called officers and given a nice shiny gold metal badge.

00:10:54.000 Well, they're basically threatening anyone who takes part in this protest.

00:10:58.000 They're trying to intimidate them out of doing so by saying the police are going to get involved.

00:11:03.000 Which is what we're going to get into at the bottom of the hour with Dan Dix and Ashley Jessica.

00:11:08.000 But now I want to introduce our first guest.

00:11:11.000 And this is an email I received probably a couple of weeks ago now.

00:11:15.000 We received shocking stories about the TSA, the behavior of the TSA.

00:11:19.000 Of course, they're in the news on an almost daily basis, but this one really shocked me because it involved a toddler, and here to talk about it is the father of that child, Kevin Ryan.

00:11:32.000 Welcome to the show, Kevin.

00:11:34.000 Thank you, Paul.

00:11:34.000 It's a pleasure to be on the show.

00:11:36.000 Unfortunately, I wish that there wasn't a need to be on the show.

00:11:40.000 I wish what happened hadn't happened, but thank you very much for having me.

00:11:45.000 Now, Kevin, this incident occurred at Newark Liberty Airport.

00:11:48.000 You were there with your wife and baby.

00:11:51.000 You've transferred to another terminal.

00:11:53.000 This was in the Continental Airlines terminal.

00:11:55.000 And you're on your way to Baltimore.

00:11:58.000 You're approaching the TSA security checkpoint.

00:12:00.000 Now, take the story from there.

00:12:01.000 Tell us what happened.

00:12:03.000 Yeah, well, exactly as you said, we had just arrived from international flights and we had transferred over to the Continental Terminal for a connecting flight to Baltimore.

00:12:13.000 It was quite late at night for the airport, about 9.30pm.

00:12:18.000 As we approached the TSA checkpoint, we were the only people, but we were immediately accosted, I guess, by the TSA.

00:12:29.000 They began shouting at us to move along faster, to remove our shoes and other personal items at a faster speed.

00:12:37.000 Despite their aggressive behavior, we remained very respectful and proceeded with what their commands were.

00:12:47.000 I had been carrying our son in a portable baby cradle.

00:12:50.000 I had sat him down on the table before the x-ray to remove him from that cradle, at which time I was being constantly yelled at that I was not allowed to do that there.

00:13:03.000 There was no idea as far as how I was to remove him from the cradle without putting him down, but I guess that was my problem.

00:13:11.000 I proceeded to remove him from the cradle and went underneath the x-ray with him.

00:13:19.000 And at that point, my wife had remained behind with the cradle and our personal belongings.

00:13:28.000 And apparently the cradle at that point had been pushed through the x-ray conveyor belt, unbeknownst to me.

00:13:39.000 When it arrived on the other side of the x-ray, I had sent it again to place my son into his portable baby cradle.

00:13:50.000 And was again harassed and told that I wasn't allowed to do that here and that I had to proceed to leave immediately without fastening my son into his cradle or having time really to collect my personal items.

00:14:05.000 Doing the best I could, I had sat my son in the cradle and began to proceed away from the conveyor belt area as instructed by the TSA.

00:14:18.000 At that point, just after picking up my son and walking maybe three to five feet away from the conveyor belt, he fell out of the cradle.

00:14:30.000 One reason for that being that he wasn't fastened in, another reason being that they had apparently broken the cradle as they had pushed him through the conveyor belt.

00:14:37.000 And you said you actually saw your wife that saw them break the cradle?

00:14:42.000 But was pulled aside by the TSA and told that she cannot speak in a loud tone at the TSA area, although apparently they are allowed to, and that she had been singled out for a special security check.

00:14:55.000 Uh, my son had fell on the ground and was bleeding and of course crying, uh, ostensibly.

00:15:01.000 Uh, there was blood coming out of his nose.

00:15:05.000 His lip was busted.

00:15:06.000 He was bleeding.

00:15:07.000 And, um, really, it's, uh, you know, it looked quite, quite horrible.

00:15:12.000 We were panicked.

00:15:14.000 I tried to call 9-1-1, having just come over from a trip to Europe.

00:15:20.000 My cell phone went out of work.

00:15:22.000 I asked repeatedly, in a very loud and clear voice, to the two TSA employees to contact 9-1-1, and they acted as if they didn't see me.

00:15:34.000 They just went about their business, sort of looked at me, rolled their eyes.

00:15:39.000 Meanwhile, my baby is shouting and crying.

00:15:44.000 Bleeding.

00:15:44.000 So it was quite a horrific scene.

00:15:47.000 And really our salvation was the janitor who came rushing over and allowed us to use her cell phone to call 9-1-1, which did come and then transport our son to a nearby emergency room.

00:16:03.000 And so, basically, there was hardly anybody in the line, this wasn't as if it was a busy morning, and yet still, at half nine at night, they're there, right from the start, shouting at you, bawling at you to get a move on, when you've clearly got all this baby equipment, you're tired, you're travelling through the airport, and you said your wife actually saw them break the baby cradle, is that right?

00:16:26.000 When they put it through the scanner?

00:16:28.000 That's correct, Paul.

00:16:29.000 In fact, there was nobody else in the line.

00:16:30.000 We were the only people there.

00:16:33.000 And she did see what had occurred, and she was not allowed to advise me of that.

00:16:40.000 I just want to mention, as a side point, the treatment that we received by the TSA was quite different than what we received going through two European airports, where these Security staff there, which certainly is concerned about security as well, were very polite and made special considerations for the fact that we were traveling with a infant baby.

00:17:03.000 I mean, it's amazing.

00:17:04.000 I've been to Communist China, and the treatment is about 500% better than TSA and Homeland Security when I went to America, got all my fingerprints taken.

00:17:15.000 You don't need to get your fingerprints taken when you go to Communist China, so that just shows how unfree America is with all this security theatre.

00:17:23.000 So basically, you go through, the baby cradle's broken, you try to put your son in it, he falls to the floor, and you said he's Not just his lip was bust open, but his nose was actually broken.

00:17:36.000 Is that the case?

00:17:37.000 Well, his nose was not exactly broken because at his age, as the doctors explained to us, it's not really possible for your nose to be technically broken because the cartilage isn't fully formed.

00:17:48.000 But it was close to a broken nose as possible, and his nose, he was bleeding out of his nose.

00:17:52.000 The cartilage was busted.

00:17:55.000 His lip was busted as well, to the extent that even You know, many months later, you can still see where his lip was busted at that time.

00:18:08.000 And I just want to say, even outside of what actually happened and him falling, which is horrific enough, The biggest crime to me is the fact that the TSA did absolutely nothing.

00:18:20.000 So, you know, it's really my feeling that the TSA would have even let my son, God forbid, die there, if that was the case, rather than acts.

00:18:33.000 And so, to me, it was something that I never thought that I would ever live to see, especially in the United States of America.

00:18:40.000 And so when your son actually fell to the floor and started bleeding and crying, what were the TSA agents doing?

00:18:46.000 Were they just standing around and chatting, or were they trying to work out what to do, or did they just not care?

00:18:52.000 They were looking at each other.

00:18:55.000 They looked at me several times and rolled their eyes and began talking to themselves again.

00:19:01.000 Basically, they didn't pay any attention to us whatsoever, other than to sort of smirk at us.

00:19:09.000 And then the police arrived, didn't they?

00:19:11.000 And you tried to file charges.

00:19:12.000 Tell us what happened with that.

00:19:14.000 That's correct.

00:19:15.000 I did call 911.

00:19:16.000 911 asked if we needed an ambulance or police.

00:19:19.000 I advised them both.

00:19:21.000 The ambulance came, of course.

00:19:24.000 The primary concern was with my son.

00:19:27.000 While they were doing tests on him, I went to... with a police officer.

00:19:33.000 The officer asked me if I'd like to file a complaint against the CSA.

00:19:36.000 I advised him that I would like to.

00:19:39.000 He asked me to come with him and to identify who the TSA personnel were, which I did.

00:19:45.000 At that point, he said that I should leave, and he advised me that he was going to view the video footage.

00:19:55.000 I said I'd like to see that as well and like to Uh, to be present, because I would like to file charges against those two TSA employees.

00:20:03.000 And, uh, he very strongly cautioned me that I was instructed to vacate the immediate area.

00:20:09.000 And to, uh, find me... We're gonna go to a break now, but we'll come back and finish the story with Kevin Ryan.

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00:24:49.000 We've got a rebroadcast of the last two hours coming up after my segment ends, just after the top of the hour.

00:24:56.000 We're talking to Kevin Ryan, who is a father who went through TSA security at Newark Liberty Airport.

00:25:04.000 His son was with him and his wife, his baby son.

00:25:07.000 Went through the security, the TSA agents actually broke the baby cradle as they put it through the x-ray scanner.

00:25:14.000 He put his son in the cradle, his son fell out, lay there on the floor bleeding, crying.

00:25:20.000 The TSA agents did absolutely nothing and then later Kevin was basically kicked out of the airport when he tried to make a fuss out of it.

00:25:30.000 Kevin, in the email you sent me you talked about this feeling of entering into a post-apocalyptic world when you arrived there in the United States.

00:25:39.000 Can you explain that to me?

00:25:41.000 Yeah, I mean, unfortunately there's no really other way to put it.

00:25:45.000 It was something I just could not conceive what was possible, certainly in the country that I call home.

00:25:54.000 And having been travelling And then returning, it was almost as if, as I said earlier, I had flown back not to the actual United States, but to a type of Twilight Zone USA.

00:26:06.000 So it was very, very Hard to believe that this was actually possible.

00:26:16.000 Really, it was experiencing what people are like if they don't have souls.

00:26:24.000 I really think that that's, unfortunately, a fair way to describe the way the people of the TSA acted.

00:26:33.000 You know, imagine that they could have that much hostility towards a baby.

00:26:38.000 I didn't mention when we went through the x-ray, when I went through with my son, he had a baby blanket underneath of him, and one of the TSA employees came and yanked the blanket out from underneath of him.

00:26:51.000 Of course, he was crying at that point, and they said, you know, you can't go through with the blanket.

00:26:57.000 You know, also in a hostile tone.

00:27:00.000 So they just seem to have no respects for citizens and certainly no respects for baby.

00:27:07.000 I mean, it's a sad statement when even our babies aren't safe.

00:27:12.000 You know, there's many an evil person who still has some level of sympathy for children, but apparently that's not the case with all TSA employees.

00:27:24.000 I mean, it's amazing, isn't it?

00:27:26.000 They must be being trained to be rude and hostile to people as an intimidation tactic.

00:27:32.000 I mean, there's so many stories now, they come out on an almost daily basis.

00:27:36.000 And just the rudeness, even when I go on Twitter and search for TSA stories, it's just one after another.

00:27:42.000 I went through such and such an airport security five minutes ago.

00:27:46.000 I've never experienced ruder airport security.

00:27:49.000 The fact is, it's losing the United States Billions and billions of dollars of tourism money because people are just refusing to visit there now.

00:27:57.000 Have you considered filing a lawsuit?

00:27:59.000 Where are you going to take this from here?

00:28:03.000 Sir, filing a lawsuit, mainly as a matter of principle, and I've told a number of attorneys that I've spoke with that in order to make this more appealing for them, we don't need to be on the financial receiving end of any type of settlements.

00:28:21.000 We just like to get this case out there.

00:28:22.000 We just like to get reform within the GSA.

00:28:25.000 Anything else they can take, we just want them to Yeah, we just want to stop this from ever happening to Southern people, and sorry to Southern babies. 0.72

00:28:35.000 And I really believe it was a situation where somebody in a similar situation could have been more seriously injured or even died.

00:28:43.000 So Newfield's my responsibility to To make this known and to do something.

00:28:48.000 That's what I appreciate you having me on the show.

00:28:50.000 The lawyers that I spoke with were surprisingly, quite surprisingly to me, not terribly interested in the case.

00:28:58.000 And I said, listen, this is really a horrific thing to happen to you that the TSA is a very powerful engine to go up against.

00:29:04.000 And, you know, it's not something that our law firm would be interested in pursuing.

00:29:09.000 So they really felt like they didn't have a chance to win the case.

00:29:14.000 I just also would mention that I also contacted the TSA and gave them an opportunity to address the matter internally.

00:29:22.000 And they didn't send me a letter in reply several months later and said they had reviewed the footage, which the police have seen and the TSA has seen, but I as a citizen am not allowed to see.

00:29:33.000 And so that they saw what I was referring to, but the actions of the TSA were in keeping with their official policy, which I take as an acceptance of what happened as being part of standard protocol for the TSA.

00:29:51.000 Well, it's a shocking story and we'll be sure to have the article up about it on InfoWars.com tomorrow.

00:29:57.000 Keep us up to date, Kevin, with any developments and really appreciate you joining us on the show today.

00:30:02.000 That's Kevin Ryan.

00:30:03.000 Thanks, Kevin.

00:30:04.000 Thank you, Paul, very much for having me on.

00:30:06.000 Thank you.

00:30:07.000 We're going to a break now, but we'll be back with Ashley, Jessica and Dan Dix.

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00:33:44.000 We're back on the Alex Jones Show on this Tuesday, November 20th.

00:33:48.000 I'm Paul Joseph Watson, in for Alex Jones, who's out sick today.

00:33:51.000 He'll be back tomorrow, rest assured, don't worry.

00:33:54.000 And we're talking to Dan Dix of Press For Truth TV and Ashley Jessica, organiser of course of the TSA Opt Out and Film Week campaign, which is at infowars.com slash opt out.

00:34:06.000 And yesterday, you probably heard them briefly on the show, Dan and Ashley travelled to Buffalo Airport to take part in the campaign to hand out flyers, to do some filming.

00:34:18.000 But before they even got there, they were basically detained at the border and we're going to hear all about it as well as what happened in the airport, which is a separate story within itself.

00:34:28.000 So, Dan and Ashley, welcome to the show!

00:34:30.000 Thanks for having us!

00:34:32.000 Thanks for having us, Paul.

00:34:34.000 So, as I just mentioned, I mean, you told me in an email, I don't know any of the details, but you were detained at the border before you even got to the airport.

00:34:43.000 Tell us what happened.

00:34:45.000 So basically, when we were driving through, they asked, of course, what our purpose was for entering the United States.

00:34:52.000 We told them a little bit that we were just going to document a nationwide campaign that's going on at the Buffalo Airport.

00:34:58.000 When the border officer asked, He asked what I do.

00:35:03.000 I said I'm a PhD student.

00:35:04.000 Then he asked Dan what he does.

00:35:06.000 He said, I'm a journalist.

00:35:08.000 And he said, oh, it figures.

00:35:11.000 And then he started typing something in his computer, gave us a slip, told us to go to secondary screening.

00:35:17.000 Pretty much as soon as we told him what the campaign was all about, TSA, the words TSA came out.

00:35:23.000 He leans into the car and looks at me and says, what do you do?

00:35:26.000 And I said, well, I'm a journalist and a filmmaker.

00:35:29.000 And he goes, figures.

00:35:31.000 Hold on over to secondary.

00:35:33.000 So immediately we were taken into the secondary screening area for over an hour.

00:35:39.000 They held us there before anybody talked to us.

00:35:42.000 And the funny thing is when we were in there, Ashley's the one who kind of launched the campaign, it's her car, and we're sitting there, me and her and my friend, and when it came time for us to talk to Customs, they just said, Dan, come here please, and all three of us get up.

00:36:00.000 And they say, no, no, just you.

00:36:02.000 And he had a few more questions for me and basically asked me, you know, questioned me for maybe 5-10 minutes and then pretty much let us on their way.

00:36:12.000 Didn't have any questions for them.

00:36:14.000 No, he asked Dan if I was the spokesperson for the campaign.

00:36:17.000 Yeah, we told him what the campaign was.

00:36:19.000 I guess he did a quick Google search or something.

00:36:21.000 I see him there typing it in.

00:36:23.000 And he looked it up.

00:36:24.000 He said, let me go talk to my superiors here.

00:36:27.000 And then he came back.

00:36:28.000 He said, she's not the spokesperson or anything?

00:36:30.000 I was like, no, I don't know.

00:36:33.000 And he said, OK, go ahead.

00:36:36.000 So a slight little snag there at the border.

00:36:38.000 It was kind of half expected.

00:36:43.000 Go ahead.

00:36:44.000 Sorry.

00:36:45.000 One thing I did notice in the secondary screening area, there's a big picture of Janet Napolitano's face, which is framed on the wall there.

00:36:53.000 Yeah.

00:36:53.000 Ella 1984.

00:36:54.000 So that was pretty eerie.

00:36:57.000 Creepy.

00:36:58.000 So, basically you were treated as suspicious simply because you were a journalist, Dan.

00:37:03.000 What kind of questions did they ask you?

00:37:06.000 Basically, what's the whole point of this thing?

00:37:09.000 What's your purpose?

00:37:10.000 What's this for?

00:37:12.000 Where's this going to show up, basically?

00:37:15.000 And I just told them straight out, because we have nothing to hide.

00:37:19.000 We're not doing anything illegal.

00:37:21.000 There's no reason to lie to them in any way at all.

00:37:24.000 So I said we're going down there to document this campaign.

00:37:27.000 It's gained national attention.

00:37:28.000 It's been on CBS and Huffington Post and all over the news.

00:37:31.000 It's a big national campaign and I'm a journalist so we're interested in this topic and we want to go down there.

00:37:38.000 To interview some people to get some footage of this campaign and to just document the the event and he asked me where's this kind of stuff going to be showing up and I just said YouTube and That was pretty much it and he had to go and confer just double check with his superiors before he let us go But that was pretty much the line of questioning.

00:38:00.000 What's the point of this?

00:38:01.000 What are you doing?

00:38:03.000 And where is this going to end up?

00:38:05.000 So I just answered his questions, and I guess they had nothing else on us, because like I said, we're not doing anything illegal.

00:38:11.000 It's perfectly within our rights.

00:38:12.000 And so they had to just let us go on in.

00:38:16.000 And so it was a slight snag there.

00:38:19.000 They held us up just for a little over an hour.

00:38:21.000 Yeah, a little stressful.

00:38:24.000 Well, I mean, you were probably expecting harassment, but you were probably expecting it at the airport, not at the border, I guess.

00:38:31.000 I was kind of half expecting it at the border.

00:38:34.000 We were prepared for it.

00:38:36.000 I'm glad that it wasn't worse than it was there.

00:38:40.000 Just the attitude of the guy, just the way he looks at me.

00:38:43.000 He goes, pfft, yeah, figures.

00:38:45.000 Alright, pull over.

00:38:48.000 That's amazing.

00:38:49.000 The car's ripped apart.

00:38:50.000 I didn't know what we were in for based on his attitude.

00:38:56.000 So, I mean, finally you get out of there after being delayed for so long.

00:39:00.000 Now, to be clear, I don't even know what happened at the airport yet.

00:39:03.000 I'm as interested as all the listeners to find out.

00:39:06.000 So you get to Buffalo.

00:39:08.000 Take the story from there.

00:39:11.000 Probably within the first minute of finding the TSA checkpoints and within the first minute of us pulling out our cameras we were surrounded by TSA agents at first who were just kind of checking us out and they're all on their phones and radios and then within another minute or so we were surrounded by these other

00:39:33.000 Another agency, guys in white suits with their badges and stuff, and I guess they're the Transit... Transit Police?

00:39:42.000 Yeah.

00:39:42.000 Airport Transit Security.

00:39:44.000 Airport Transit Police, NFTA.

00:39:48.000 Transit Police.

00:39:49.000 I call them 4.5s, you know, not quite a 5-0.

00:39:53.000 So they surrounded us right away and had a lot of fun.

00:39:57.000 So do you think they knew you were coming?

00:39:59.000 No, they didn't.

00:40:02.000 Well, as far as I know, they didn't.

00:40:04.000 They were wondering what we're doing.

00:40:08.000 It was the first they heard of this.

00:40:09.000 They were curious to see the flyers.

00:40:12.000 They were alerted by the TSA at the airport.

00:40:17.000 So yeah, they surrounded us at first and immediately said, you can't be filming over there.

00:40:22.000 And we right away asserted our rights and said, actually, we can.

00:40:26.000 We even double checked on the website.

00:40:27.000 We are allowed to film the TSA.

00:40:30.000 We can film this, the area, as long as we're not pointing the cameras at the monitors.

00:40:34.000 And they said, well, can you just stop until we double check to confirm that that's true?

00:40:41.000 They didn't even know their own laws.

00:40:43.000 It seems like they were very uninformed of the laws.

00:40:45.000 One of them even slapped Dan's camera shut.

00:40:48.000 That's true.

00:40:49.000 Very aggressively.

00:40:50.000 True, he smacks my LCD lens, the screen there, closed, and I open it again, he smacks it shut again, and I said, you cannot touch My equipment.

00:41:00.000 In fact, one of his superiors later came up to me and basically apologized for that incident and said, you know, we're going to speak to him about that.

00:41:08.000 He had no right to touch your camera gear.

00:41:11.000 Of all the guys that were there, I have to say one guy in particular was very, very calm, very collected, very cool, exactly how it should go.

00:41:20.000 And we'll certainly be able to show that once we get this video put together.

00:41:25.000 Yeah, he was very interested in hearing more about the campaign, he was very open-minded, so that was really refreshing to see. 0.99

00:41:31.000 So what strikes me though, before we get into more of what happened, is how dumb they are! 0.95

00:41:38.000 If they just leave you alone, let you film the checkpoint for a while, hand out some flyers, you know, for an hour or two, then no incident happens! 0.97

00:41:48.000 And the footage that you get is quite banal and not very interesting, but it's the very fact that they have to intervene and they have to cause an incident that gives you the footage and turns it into a story.

00:41:58.000 So, I mean, does that strike you as dumb or are they just, you know, trained to do that and they fear they'd lose their jobs if they didn't? 0.93

00:42:07.000 It's quite odd, quite ridiculous, really. 0.96

00:42:10.000 As you said, they approach us and end up engaging in conversation with us, and I had some very interesting conversations with those guys.

00:42:23.000 We haven't even checked our own footage yet, but I can't wait to go over it all, because it's a lot to remember.

00:42:29.000 We were talking to those guys for hours, and they disclosed a lot of information.

00:42:33.000 A lot of stuff that I was surprised they were being so candid with and telling us about.

00:42:38.000 One of the guys was saying, he says, you know, their whole screening process isn't very good.

00:42:43.000 He says their training isn't very good.

00:42:45.000 It only takes two weeks.

00:42:46.000 Anybody can get in and do this kind of thing.

00:42:48.000 They were very candid in speaking with us, the one guy anyways.

00:42:51.000 Yeah, and he was saying that they're not exactly particularly fond of the TSA either.

00:42:57.000 That's true.

00:42:57.000 The very own airport security there was saying, you know what guys, the one guy actually was saying, you know what, what you're saying makes sense to me.

00:43:07.000 I mean, it's like I'm kind of starting to wonder about it all now because everything you've been telling me Makes sense.

00:43:15.000 So I'm gonna start to look into this a little bit.

00:43:17.000 Which, of course, is the whole goal of the campaign.

00:43:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:20.000 To raise awareness about this stuff, get the word out.

00:43:23.000 Raising awareness was an issue, though.

00:43:25.000 They didn't let us hand out flyers.

00:43:26.000 Right, so they said that we could be arrested for soliciting.

00:43:31.000 They were sort of going back and forth about that.

00:43:33.000 They weren't sure.

00:43:34.000 What exactly are you supposed to be soliciting?

00:43:38.000 You're just giving out information.

00:43:40.000 Exactly.

00:43:40.000 That's what we said, but...

00:43:43.000 They just said, look, you're soliciting and you can't handle the flyers.

00:43:50.000 So, you know, it was all about just talking to the people in line and letting them know they have the option to opt out.

00:43:57.000 So we said, you know what?

00:43:58.000 Let's not let this deter us.

00:44:00.000 We're still going to talk to these people, all these passengers who are about to be faced with this choice of going through this very dangerous machine or getting the pat down.

00:44:09.000 We're still going to talk to them and inform them, even though, you know, we can't give you the piece of paper.

00:44:15.000 So I just held it up and told them, you know, went through point by point what the campaign is about.

00:44:20.000 And a lot of the travelers were so open-minded.

00:44:22.000 A lot of them didn't know about the health risks associated with the body scanners.

00:44:26.000 Some of them didn't even know That they could be sexually assaulted by the TSA during a pat-down procedure.

00:44:31.000 So, many of the travellers said they wanted... Did they know they had the right to opt out? 1.00

00:44:36.000 Because I found that a lot... We sent reporters down to Austin, Bergstrom, and half the travellers didn't even know they had the right to opt out. 0.98

00:44:43.000 Did you find that?

00:44:44.000 Or were they informed about it?

00:44:46.000 I found that some were informed and some weren't.

00:44:48.000 It was kind of a mix.

00:44:50.000 I would say a lot of them didn't know that they had the right to film.

00:44:54.000 So that was something that they were unaware of.

00:44:57.000 For sure.

00:44:58.000 Yeah, most of them had no idea that you are actually allowed to film your pat-downs and you know it's for your own safety and your own protection.

00:44:58.000 Yeah.

00:45:06.000 You might need it who knows in the future as some evidence or something so it's fully within your right to document when they are giving you this intrusive and invasive pat down most people had no idea about that they were they were surprised they said oh i didn't know that so that was good um and everyone was very receptive uh to the to the information though very much so yes so they left you alone for a while

00:45:32.000 did they and allowed you to film and take the story from there they did but then at the end the chief of the um nfta transit police came up to us and said he doesn't know what the tsa policy on filming is We tried to educate him on it over and over again, and he said that, you know, he doesn't know about it, and in his opinion, we're not allowed to film, so he's saying we can't film the TSA checkpoint.

00:45:57.000 And I said, well, in fact, we can.

00:46:01.000 I even double checked the website before I came here and he says, well, so you say.

00:46:05.000 Yeah.

00:46:06.000 And then the one guy was saying, can you just not point it that way, the camera, towards the checkpoint?

00:46:12.000 And I said, you know, I'm sorry.

00:46:15.000 That's the whole point of coming here was to film the TSA.

00:46:19.000 So I'm sorry, but no, I'm not going to point the camera the other way at nothing.

00:46:24.000 Right.

00:46:28.000 Like you said, Paul, the funny thing is they didn't even know their own rights.

00:46:32.000 They had to double check.

00:46:33.000 I got asked for ID, for example.

00:46:36.000 Yes, that's another thing.

00:46:37.000 They kept asking us over and over again for our names.

00:46:40.000 And when I told them, I do not have to present my ID to you, the one officer there was a little taken aback.

00:46:47.000 Of course you do!

00:46:48.000 Kind of a look on her face and said, what do you mean?

00:46:51.000 And I said, well, Do you suspect us of committing some sort of a crime?

00:46:55.000 You know, we haven't done anything wrong.

00:46:57.000 We're not doing anything illegal.

00:46:59.000 We don't have to present our papers here.

00:47:01.000 This is America, land of the free.

00:47:03.000 You don't have to present your papers on demand.

00:47:05.000 That reminds me.

00:47:08.000 I had a conversation with the chief of police there and I said, you know, it's places like Germany where you have to present your papers upon request.

00:47:15.000 And he said, good.

00:47:16.000 That's how it should be.

00:47:18.000 Oh really?

00:47:19.000 I didn't know that was Germany.

00:47:22.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:23.000 The chief there, their boss, said that.

00:47:27.000 Great.

00:47:28.000 Well, I'm sure he's been trained well.

00:47:31.000 So, the police basically threatened to, if you don't stop them, we're going to arrest you.

00:47:36.000 Is that what happened?

00:47:38.000 Pretty much.

00:47:39.000 Well, just with the soliciting, as they called it.

00:47:43.000 And again, the one lady admitted, I'm not even positive if this is considered soliciting or not.

00:47:51.000 But at that point, we said, you know what, let's just continue to do what we came here to do.

00:47:57.000 We'll inform the people of their options, we'll film the TSA, and not let that little snag slip us up there.

00:48:04.000 But we're really looking forward to putting this video together.

00:48:07.000 Really interesting conversations.

00:48:09.000 The topic of 9-11 came up a bunch of times.

00:48:12.000 The one guy mainly was saying, well, 9-11, right?

00:48:15.000 I mean, look what happened there.

00:48:17.000 Obviously, we need to, you know, these are all necessary procedures and nothing has happened since 9-11.

00:48:23.000 And I said, well, sir, maybe that's because there's no real threat to begin with in the first place.

00:48:29.000 And he just kind of stared at me for a second and said, I, you will have to agree to disagree on that.

00:48:37.000 But the topic of 9-11 came up a number of times, suggesting this is why we're doing this.

00:48:44.000 And I tried to explain to them, guys, this is a very, very slippery slope, an incremental push towards a very tyrannical police state.

00:48:52.000 I mean, there's nations that have just awoken to this police state, and they don't realize how they got there.

00:48:57.000 So unless we address these things as they arise, in these small incremental steps, We too can very soon wake up in this police state going, what on earth has happened?

00:49:07.000 What is going on here?

00:49:08.000 I tried to explain that to him.

00:49:10.000 Luckily, obviously the cameras were rolling the whole time.

00:49:13.000 So we can't wait to show you guys some of the interesting conversations we had with these guys.

00:49:18.000 Yeah, we got so much on film.

00:49:21.000 Well, I can't wait to see it.

00:49:22.000 I mean, yeah, on the topic of 9-11, I mean, the TSA was created shortly after 9-11, of course, 16,500 employees, that's now up to 60,000, and they've failed to catch a single terrorist, but they are quite good at letting weapons through, you know, stealing iPads, stealing people's money, smacking people in the testicles who refuse to go for a body scan.

00:49:43.000 I've actually received emails over the past two days from several different people saying that The TSA at different airports is forcing people to go through the body scanner even if they opt out, even if they say I want to exercise my right to opt out.

00:49:59.000 The TSA is forcing people to go through it and even a cancer victim who was in tears, they forced her to go through the scanner.

00:50:06.000 So I'm wondering if that's a general thing or if it's in response to this week's opt-out protest.

00:50:12.000 We're going to continue to talk to Dan Dix and Ashley Jessica.

00:50:16.000 Dan Dix of course PressForTruth.tv.

00:50:19.000 Ashley Jessica who's helped us organise this campaign.

00:50:22.000 It was her idea to begin with.

00:50:24.000 We're going to go to more news stories about the TSA that actually came out publicly and issued a warning.

00:50:32.000 That people could be arrested by the police if they take part in the TSA Opt Out and Film Week campaign.

00:50:40.000 That story's up on infowars.com.

00:50:42.000 And basically they admitted that their own policy says people are allowed to film at checkpoints in airports.

00:50:49.000 But local ordinances and laws could mean that people would get harassed by the police.

00:50:56.000 Of course, the First Court of Appeals has ruled repeatedly that filming police in the United States is not illegal.

00:51:04.000 Apparently some TSA officers, as Dan and Ashley just described, think that they're above the law, even though they're not.

00:51:10.000 Technically officers, because they have to go through absolutely zero police training whatsoever, but they still get to wear the shiny badge and feel powerful while they're groping children.

00:51:20.000 So we're going to go to Dan and Ashley Moore after the break on the InfoWars.com Alex Jones Show.

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00:54:47.000 I'm Paul Joseph Watson, in for Alex Jones.

00:54:50.000 TSA reportedly exposed breasts of Ralph Hall's teen grandniece, called it accidental.

00:54:57.000 And this is a Republican congressman from Texas.

00:55:01.000 His grandniece, a 17-year-old girl, went through security at LAX airport.

00:55:07.000 And the TSA agent, in the course of the pat-down, exposed her breasts in public. 1.00

00:55:14.000 This is a big breaking story.

00:55:17.000 Just amazing.

00:55:17.000 I say every day the TSA gets caught out in a new scandal.

00:55:22.000 I mean, sometimes it's multiple times daily.

00:55:24.000 I've never known another organisation or branch of government agency that can get so much bad publicity and yet still remain not only in one piece but growing thousands upon thousands of new agents each year, thousands upon thousands of new unannounced checkpoints each year, not only in airports, that's key to emphasize, But also highways, of course, political events, music concerts, prom nights, you name it.

00:55:54.000 The TSA is expanding and that's why we're standing up against it during Opt Out and Film Week here.

00:56:01.000 So, Dan and Ashley, any other points about what you experienced?

00:56:06.000 I mean, were you able to film some of the pat-downs?

00:56:08.000 Did you notice the TSA being any less invasive because you were filming them?

00:56:14.000 That's quite possible.

00:56:15.000 We were filming some of that, some of them walking through the machines, some of the pat-downs, and we made that point to some of the passengers walking in.

00:56:23.000 It's the fact that, you know, when you have those cameras rolling, it protects you.

00:56:28.000 It acts as a layer of protection.

00:56:31.000 They may think twice about doing some of the things that they would normally do when they're under the eyes of the camera.

00:56:38.000 So we pointed that out to the people walking in there as well.

00:56:41.000 And as far as, like you said, they're just expanding big time.

00:56:46.000 That all comes back to the fact that they're not really doing any serious training or real background checks.

00:56:52.000 They're just bringing on anyone and everyone.

00:56:54.000 Exactly.

00:56:56.000 Yeah, so... So what advice would you give to other people who are thinking about taking part in this opt-out and film campaign this week?

00:57:07.000 Just know your rights.

00:57:08.000 Assert your rights when the TSA or airport police try to intimidate you.

00:57:15.000 Stand your ground.

00:57:17.000 Absolutely.

00:57:19.000 Because these guys don't even know their own laws.

00:57:21.000 Half of them. 0.99

00:57:22.000 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:57:23.000 Really ridiculous. 0.67

00:57:24.000 A good idea that we would suggest people do is maybe look up on the TSA's website and find the page where it talks about the fact that you are allowed to film the TSA and the checkpoints and print that out.

00:57:37.000 Because no doubt they're going to challenge you on that.

00:57:40.000 They're going to say, you know what, I'm not sure about that.

00:57:42.000 Let me check into that.

00:57:43.000 And at that point, you can just pull it right out of your pocket and say, here, I'll save you the time.

00:57:47.000 Here it is right here.

00:57:49.000 I'm allowed to do this.

00:57:50.000 So that's something people can do.

00:57:52.000 You know, print that sheet out, have it on you in your pocket while you're there, and bring plenty of battery power, plenty of tapes, whatever you need.

00:58:01.000 You don't know how long it's going to take.

00:58:05.000 And just, as we've said, stand your ground, know your rights, because these guys don't, and just assert your rights to them.

00:58:12.000 Let them know, look, I don't have to give them my ID, I can continue to film, I'm not going to point the camera this way, you know, we're here to take part in this campaign, you can't stop us, basically.

00:58:21.000 And I guess if you could find some public property, it might be worth also handing out the flyers outside the airport.

00:58:30.000 I think that's a great idea.

00:58:30.000 Exactly.

00:58:31.000 To avoid the harassment and being threatened with arrest for soliciting.

00:58:36.000 I think that's the best idea.

00:58:38.000 Hand it out to travelers walking inside. 0.99

00:58:42.000 Just let them know.

00:58:43.000 I think the most important thing is to just alert as many people as possible about the campaign, about their right to opt out, and their right to film, and why it's so important to do both.

00:58:54.000 The thing that gets me about it is, you know, I go on Twitter and search TSA, TSA opt-out.

00:59:02.000 Most of it is people laughing and joking.

00:59:05.000 There's actually one I saw today about a woman who laughed.

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01:01:05.000 TSA tacit threat to opt-out journalist.

01:01:08.000 We know who you are!

01:01:10.000 The TSA has publicly slammed a journalist who opted out of an x-ray body scan and then reported that her genitals were groped by an agent who refused to provide her name and even wore her TSA badge upside down to avoid being identified.

01:01:24.000 So the TSA is now publicly naming journalists who opt out of the body scanner and who write stories about it, just as they put the CNN journalist on a list When he wrote critical news stories about the federal agency.

01:01:41.000 They actually target people who criticize them.

01:01:43.000 It's occurred on a number of different occasions.

01:01:46.000 We've got their internal memos attesting to that.

01:01:49.000 Still waiting the internal memos on the fact that during the last National Opt-Out Day campaign, The TSA mentioned the Drudge Report, Alex Jones and Infowars.com.

01:02:01.000 In their internal memos, nine pages, they refused to release them under the Freedom of Information Act request.

01:02:08.000 They're still holding on to them.

01:02:09.000 We still don't know what's contained in those memos.

01:02:12.000 We're talking with Dan Dix and Ashley Jessica who were involved in the campaign yesterday there at Buffalo Airport.

01:02:20.000 Dan and Ashley, just closing thoughts.

01:02:22.000 When do you expect to get your video up on YouTube and any closing thoughts about what you experienced at the hands of the TSA?

01:02:30.000 Well, you would know when the video's going to be on.

01:02:32.000 Yeah, I'll be...

01:02:35.000 So we'll be getting it up as soon as we possibly can, likely by tomorrow night or by most likely Thursday by the latest.

01:02:44.000 That's the plan.

01:02:45.000 And I know you got some stuff planned.

01:02:47.000 Yeah, I just want to let people know I'll be continuing to visit airports in the U.S.

01:02:52.000 throughout the week.

01:02:53.000 I'll be at Albany New York Airport this weekend most likely.

01:02:57.000 And I'm not going to let a little harassment stop me from spreading the message and alerting people about the campaign.

01:03:03.000 And Ashley, tell people how they can contact you to get involved in that.

01:03:07.000 Yeah, so people can contact me on Twitter, at Ashley Jessica, and also you can go to the Facebook page, just search Opt Out and Film Week in the Facebook search engine, and you can send me a message through there.

01:03:23.000 And if people want to tune into the video, you can check that out at PressForTruth.ca, and of course I'll have it on my YouTube channel as well at YouTube.com slash WeavingSpider.

01:03:34.000 Okay guys, thanks for joining us.

01:03:37.000 Ashley, keep us up to date on what else is happening this week.

01:03:39.000 Of course, Infowars.com is going to have the latest TSA opt-out and film news.

01:03:45.000 And we really appreciate your guys' activism.

01:03:48.000 It's an inspiration to others to get involved in this campaign.

01:03:52.000 And thanks for joining us today.

01:03:54.000 Thank you so much.

01:03:55.000 Thank you.

01:03:56.000 There you go Dan Dix and Ashley Jessica.

01:04:00.000 We're going to wrap it up shortly on this edition of the Alex Jones Show.

01:04:04.000 We're going to go to a rebroadcast with some of the best interviews from recent Alex Jones Shows.

01:04:10.000 Just to re-emphasise, the campaign information is at infowars.com slash opt-out.

01:04:17.000 It's about opting out of the ridiculous TSA obedience training measures, not just the body scanner, but also the chat downs, the drink tests.

01:04:28.000 And everything about it.

01:04:29.000 And also using your First Amendment rights to film the TSA, which is perfectly legal.

01:04:35.000 It says so on the TSA's own website.

01:04:37.000 No matter the fact that, as you heard in the last segment, the TSA doesn't actually know its own policies.

01:04:45.000 It is on their website.

01:04:46.000 You're allowed to film.

01:04:48.000 So we encourage people to do that.

01:04:50.000 And it's all at infowars.com slash opt-out.

01:04:53.000 And of course, Throughout the week, I'm going to be writing numerous articles about this campaign, about the latest scandals involving the TSA, and that will all be at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:05:07.000 That's going to do it though for this edition of the Alex Jones Show rebroadcast coming up.

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01:09:04.000 We're going to Edwin Vieira Jr., holds four degrees from Harvard.

01:09:09.000 is a PhD of their law school.

01:09:12.000 I'm not going to go over it all, but he is one of Ron Paul's advisors and favorite constitutional lawyers, one of mine as well.

01:09:18.000 We're going to be getting so many other constitutional lawyers on, like Stuart Rhodes.

01:09:23.000 We're also, in the next few days, going to be getting Um, Mr. Feinon is one of Ron Paul's advisors and a congressional advisor, constitutional lawyer.

01:09:34.000 I've read the Declaration of Independence.

01:09:36.000 I've read the Bill of Rights Constitution.

01:09:37.000 I read the debates in the newspapers from the time I have talked to literally hundreds of constitutional lawyers.

01:09:42.000 I've studied the law, and I wanted to get one of the chief recognized, uh...

01:09:46.000 Experts and, you know, one of the founders of the modern militia movement, from a point of law on with us, a man who's launched a lot of major movements we see today based on what we saw 230 plus years ago.

01:10:02.000 But to restate it for stations that just joined us, this is the most important broadcast we've ever done.

01:10:07.000 The manifestation of a 1,200,000 and counting signatures by all 50 states, now over 15 states qualifying for the White House to have to respond, that is more than symbolic.

01:10:19.000 It shows the people saying we will not go under socialism, we are not slaves, this is all unconstitutional, NORTHCOM, NDAA, Government health care written by foreign bank-owned insurance companies.

01:10:33.000 We're not going along with this.

01:10:34.000 And Ron Paul, in his incredible speech, we're going to play some excerpts coming up.

01:10:38.000 49 minutes, it's up at InfoWars.com.

01:10:40.000 He said, we're under fascism, it's premeditated, it is psychopathic organized evil.

01:10:45.000 These are quotes, by the way.

01:10:48.000 He said, they are, it is world government.

01:10:51.000 They have announced all over the news, we played the clips, ad nauseam.

01:10:55.000 Where they say, we've been conquered by foreign banks and laugh at us on CNBC, Bloomberg TV, Financial Times of London.

01:11:02.000 This is a legal declaration, just as Europe's been conquered by being signed on to banker derivatives.

01:11:09.000 We are now here.

01:11:10.000 We are being conquered.

01:11:12.000 And I say, as we go to the lawyer, to a constitutional lawyer to get his, one of the chief experts, to get his take on this plan, and I don't know his take on this yet.

01:11:20.000 I mean, I do know what it's going to be because I've read his books, researched what he's saying.

01:11:23.000 But we have to get out front and not let hundreds of newspapers, TV, say it's racist to talk about seceding, and that people are mad because Obama's black.

01:11:34.000 No, we're mad because he's announcing cyber security takeover.

01:11:38.000 Executive order.

01:11:39.000 Because they're announcing we're under socialism.

01:11:41.000 Because the country's going to hell in a handbasket.

01:11:43.000 We have to point out the blue states are all going bankrupt.

01:11:46.000 Not that the Republicans are much better, but people at least voted for the lesser of two evils there.

01:11:50.000 They understand the road to perdition we're on.

01:11:54.000 We must go to the legislatures, and I want Mr. Vieira's take on this right now.

01:11:57.000 We must go to the legislatures now and say With versions of a new Declaration of Independence with the same facts in the original from 1776 July 4th.

01:12:10.000 And say, we need to have groups organized through the Governor's Council, not the fake FEMA one, but the real Governor's Council, the legislative councils, led by people like Dr. Vieira, like Ron Paul, like Lou Rockwell, like countless other patriots out there, that it's now time to say, we are seceding to restore the Republic

01:12:33.000 But to also reconstitute the federal government which is fascistic, is tyrannical, is spying on us illegally, and is producing a total tyranny of domination because they know the people are waking up.

01:12:45.000 It is now time to admit how bad it is and move at the states and explain.

01:12:50.000 The country's been conquered by globalists, as Ron Paul said in his speech.

01:12:53.000 Let's just tell it like it is.

01:12:54.000 They bragged.

01:12:55.000 Reconstitute the republic.

01:12:57.000 Secession for survival.

01:12:59.000 Secession to restore the republic.

01:13:01.000 Secession because we've been conquered by foreign banks.

01:13:04.000 And get that word out.

01:13:06.000 Get different petitions circulating, get different versions of the new Declaration of Independence, then have a large meeting of governors, legislators that want to come, organized by Ron Paul, campaign for liberty because he's respected and because we trust him, to have that meeting.

01:13:23.000 And then to go forth building that idea.

01:13:25.000 This went on for a decade before 1776.

01:13:28.000 We've got to do this before they come for the guns.

01:13:30.000 They're planning a civil war.

01:13:31.000 They're now billing it that Obama's Lincoln too.

01:13:35.000 The states are racist.

01:13:37.000 They've got petitions at the White House.

01:13:38.000 I've got it right here.

01:13:39.000 I'll show you a document cam shot of your viewer to arrest people signing the petitions to organize federal militias to occupy the states to implement all these plans.

01:13:48.000 Folks, this is going to really get bad.

01:13:50.000 They're now going to try to totally take over America. 0.82

01:13:53.000 They've said they're going to try to say all semi-autos have to be handed in.

01:13:57.000 Now again, his website, we'll give that to you in a moment, Edwin Vieira Jr., holds four degrees from Harvard, A.B.

01:14:04.000 Harvard College, A.M.

01:14:05.000 with Ph.D., Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, and J.D.

01:14:08.000 Harvard Law School.

01:14:10.000 For more than 30 years, he's practiced law with emphasis on constitutional issues in the Supreme Court.

01:14:14.000 The United States has successfully argued or briefed the case leading to the landmark decision, Boud v. Detroit Board of Education, Chicago Teachers.

01:14:21.000 I'm not going to go over all his landmark cases, but I mean he is a chief amongst constitutional lawyers.

01:14:27.000 I've done my excited introduction, sir, but the crest of the wave from Julius Caesar, the play written by Well, the greatest playwright of all time, William Shakespeare, his version of Julius Caesar, there is a tide in the affairs of men when taken at the flood leads on to fortune.

01:14:46.000 Our fortune is liberty and freedom.

01:14:49.000 That's the treasure we seek.

01:14:50.000 Can you not intellectually but also in your gut, sir, feel the great wave that is now cresting and we've got to surf that thing into victory?

01:14:59.000 Now is the time to go on the offense.

01:15:01.000 What do you think of my Well, I think that's the key element.

01:15:17.000 This is not really a revolutionary activity that we're talking about.

01:15:22.000 It's a restoration.

01:15:24.000 A restoration of the principles of the Declaration of Independence, and then a restoration of the constitutional principles, which are founded on the principles of the Declaration of Independence.

01:15:33.000 So, I've become a little bit leery of the...dancing around too freely, because I don't think the goal ultimately is for particular states to remove themselves from the Union in the sense of becoming independent republics, independent sovereignty, but to assert state authority, which is really at the basis of the entire federal system, so as to restore the principles of the Constitution

01:16:02.000 In Washington D.C.

01:16:05.000 to the extent that that can be done in the long term and in the short term to return as much economic and political power to the states and the people as is possible.

01:16:18.000 So I've always said this is a matter, fundamentally, of what I would call interposition, number one.

01:16:23.000 The states stepping forward and telling those people in Washington that there are certain lines that cannot be crossed constitutionally, and if they are, the states will assert the powers that they have under the Constitution to interpose themselves in favor of their people against, essentially, rogue attacks that are coming out of the District of Columbia.

01:16:44.000 And then secondly, the enactment of certain kinds of legislation that is completely constitutional, completely within the authorities of the states to put into effect.

01:16:53.000 I would say number one is the restoration, as I've said many times, the restoration of the constitutional militia of the several states.

01:17:00.000 These are institutions that the Constitution foresees are to be permanent.

01:17:03.000 They're at the same status as the constitutionality, at least.

01:17:07.000 Congress, the President, the court system, even the states themselves, they were put in there for a very specific purpose because the Founding Fathers understood, as the Second Amendment tells us, a well-regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state.

01:17:22.000 And this concept of a free state is the ultimate purpose of both the Constitution and the Declaration.

01:17:27.000 So that, in a sense, as Ford Motor Company used to say, is job one.

01:17:31.000 We have to restore those institutions to their constitutional position within each of the states.

01:17:37.000 And when we do that, those institutions become a foundation for taking many actions that are necessary to give the states the kind of political and economic, I won't say autonomy necessarily, but certainly clout.

01:17:49.000 You can't have a really independent state political and economic policy while the state and its people are tied to the Federal Reserve System.

01:17:59.000 It's impossible.

01:18:00.000 You have to have an alternative monetary system, and we're going to need that in any event because the Federal Reserve System is coming down one way or the other.

01:18:08.000 It's going to go into very serious crisis.

01:18:10.000 Could be hyperinflationary, could be a depression, could be a combination of both.

01:18:14.000 But the end of that fiat money central banking paradigm, if you will, you can see it on the near horizon.

01:18:22.000 So that's step number one.

01:18:23.000 That could be done through a militia.

01:18:25.000 Uh, we need to take control of food security and energy security with each state. 0.57

01:18:30.000 That can be done through state military.

01:18:32.000 We need to assert all of the aspects of local homeland security.

01:18:37.000 FEMA has nothing to do with those things.

01:18:39.000 The Department of Homeland Security has nothing to do with those things.

01:18:42.000 Once the state militia is organized, the state militia will have control of those matters.

01:18:47.000 Oh, and by the way, as the Constitution points out, the only officers of the state militia are, of course, appointed by the states, which means that those civilian officials in the Department of Homeland Security, FEMA, whatever, have precisely no authority under those circumstances.

01:19:03.000 So you essentially freeze them out of this process as well.

01:19:06.000 So there's a whole series of steps that can be taken, but they have to be taken within the clear constitutional paradigm.

01:19:15.000 That's really our problem.

01:19:16.000 You know, this is a situation where we've been driving the Mercedes down the road, and now all of a sudden the engine starts chugging and it stops, and we go out, we lift up the hood, and we look We don't know what to do.

01:19:29.000 Because we haven't read the Book of Instructions which tells us, go fill up the gas tank on a regular basis, right?

01:19:29.000 Why not?

01:19:35.000 Look at the gas gauge, look at the oil gauge, whatever it is, right?

01:19:39.000 We have a Book of Instructions the Founding Fathers gave us for living in a free state under a limited government in which the first purpose is, as the Preamble says, securing the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.

01:19:54.000 Dr. Edwin Vieira, constitutional lawyer, advisor to Ron Paul is our guest.

01:19:58.000 I want you to continue, sir.

01:19:59.000 We're going to skip this network break because this is so important.

01:20:02.000 What I'm saying is you're a constitutional lawyer.

01:20:05.000 And obviously we have a right to secede.

01:20:09.000 We have a right to revolt.

01:20:11.000 My point is I've always been leery of secession because the system just demonizes it as a new civil war and they say it's been decided you can't secede because of what Abraham Lincoln did.

01:20:21.000 Obviously though this isn't even a question of the federal government being out of control.

01:20:25.000 The globalists have taken over the federal government. 0.84

01:20:27.000 So I am saying the way to phrase it And I've seen this get through to people because it's the reality is foreign banks brag they've captured the federal government.

01:20:36.000 It's totally destroyed the federal system, the Bill of Rights Constitution.

01:20:40.000 They call us anti-federalists.

01:20:41.000 They're not even following the federal system.

01:20:42.000 This is globalism.

01:20:44.000 This is New World Order.

01:20:45.000 So what I'm saying is... 0.84

01:20:47.000 With the dumbed-down public, they can grasp secession, that we want our own states, we're disagreeing with what you're doing.

01:20:53.000 It will accelerate this process, because the feds call states' rights secession.

01:20:59.000 They don't even think there should be a state.

01:21:01.000 And so if states say they should decide what the speed limit is, you know, I mean, Democrats say, hey, let's just go arrest their governor.

01:21:08.000 So we know there's a federal globalist socialist tyranny now running Washington.

01:21:13.000 As Ron Paul says in his speech, it's over if we don't reverse this.

01:21:18.000 I'm saying it's now time to up the ante and say, okay, we call secession kicking out the occupying globalists to restore the republic because the feds have been captured we're going to move at the states and start having that discussion of a different type of secession to restore the republic because you have the states secede saying we're still america dc isn't america Doctor.

01:21:44.000 And so we're going to do it to re-upload the Bill of Rights Constitution via the Declaration of Independence because the federal government has been lost to foreign special interests.

01:21:55.000 That's my point, is we have to clearly make the break and have the state leaders, members of the federal system, start meeting, start having discussions, start circulating, as you know for many years, a new Declaration of Independence or redress of grievances they were giving to the Crown before we got to the codification of what Thomas Jefferson wrote there in the weeks leading up to July 4, 1776.

01:22:21.000 That's what I'm saying is we need to go ahead and up the ante to get the energy going so people understand it's not just this slow movement of states' rights, which the feds just ignore and are now bankrupting the states.

01:22:33.000 I mean, the feds are coming in, sir, as you know, under new rules saying $100,000 fine if you wash your car in your yard.

01:22:40.000 Six years in jail if your dog craps in your own yard.

01:22:43.000 Excuse my French.

01:22:44.000 I mean, the tyranny was dribbling out now.

01:22:47.000 The cup has been turned over, sir.

01:22:49.000 So what I'm saying is I'm calling to draft Ron Paul.

01:22:53.000 We're writing up and codifying a basic battle plan stating, hey, secession isn't create our other countries.

01:23:00.000 Our country's gone.

01:23:01.000 We want the states that created America to recreate it.

01:23:05.000 Do you see what I'm saying?

01:23:06.000 Kind of a reboot?

01:23:08.000 Well, yes, and I agree with this principle because I have said, and I have a book coming out very shortly which goes into this in great detail, that when you talk about the Declaration of Independence, for instance, It was not really a revolutionary document.

01:23:22.000 It was a document that looked to the restoration of the principles, the laws of nature and of nature's God, which they believed, quite rightly, that King George and his ministerial government were violating.

01:23:34.000 And that's essentially our problem today.

01:23:36.000 It's the same Declaration of Independence type situation.

01:23:40.000 You have people in a central governmental apparatus.

01:23:42.000 Lawless criminals!

01:23:44.000 Well, however you want to describe them.

01:23:46.000 They are violating the fundamental laws of this country.

01:23:48.000 They're violating the principles of the Declaration of Independence through globalism.

01:23:51.000 They're violating the laws of nature.

01:23:53.000 Nature's God, left, right, and center.

01:23:55.000 And doing this with impunity.

01:23:58.000 And we have a federal system that is built upon checks and balances.

01:24:02.000 And if we look at that imbalance, which is coming out of the District of Columbia, and ask, what are the checks that are supposed to be brought into play?

01:24:08.000 Well, they are two.

01:24:10.000 They are the state governments, number one, because they're in the middle of this pyramidal structure.

01:24:14.000 And then at the base, the thing that forms the foundation, the people themselves.

01:24:19.000 We have been very lax in those two levels.

01:24:22.000 In the states essentially pushing back against these encroachments coming out of Washington, and ultimately in the people not demanding of their state governments, as well as the government in Washington, that these kinds of actions be taken consistent with the Constitution.

01:24:36.000 So I say, I'm really not in favor of the word secession because that tends to throw people's minds back To the historical period of the Civil War.

01:24:46.000 Okay, then what do you, exactly, so we need to, exactly, so I have a battle plan.

01:24:51.000 We need to come up with a basic plan with you and others of what to call it to start our own petitions just because it gets media attention on the White House website so that people see the real way.

01:25:03.000 So we call for a second State Continental Congress to have the states meet and say what do we do about this rogue federal government?

01:25:14.000 And so what do we call that, sir?

01:25:18.000 Well, I call it a committee to restore the constitutional principles in this country.

01:25:23.000 I may have cut that down into a soundbite, but basically that's what we're doing.

01:25:27.000 Constitutional principles and, of course, the principles of the Declaration of Independence.

01:25:31.000 Because the real danger looming down the road is globalism.

01:25:34.000 It's the destruction of the separate and equal status among the nations of the world.

01:25:39.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:25:41.000 That's it!

01:25:42.000 Exactly, exactly, doctor.

01:25:44.000 So what I'm asking you, as the top constitutional lawyer, is we need to explain this to a six-year-old level to get it out there because the media is phrasing any state's rights as Civil War Ku Klux Klan.

01:25:58.000 And so, you know, reconstruction, whatever, and that's how they want to roll this out.

01:26:02.000 I'm saying we just, to take control of it, we label The Constitutional Restoration Movement as secession from the globalist, from the occupied federal government, not the secession that the Democrats told you about.

01:26:16.000 So we need to explain that America has been conquered by globalism.

01:26:20.000 This is a restoration.

01:26:22.000 But how do you put that out to people to explain?

01:26:25.000 Because for me, that's the key, is that folks, the government's gone.

01:26:30.000 That's why it's so lawless.

01:26:31.000 They're under technocrats in Europe now.

01:26:33.000 This is bona fide.

01:26:35.000 I mean, Ron Paul's speech lays it out, folks.

01:26:37.000 We're in it.

01:26:38.000 This is real.

01:26:40.000 And so I'm saying get the states, movements, people think it's a petition to Obama.

01:26:44.000 That's good to get attention with ideas.

01:26:47.000 That's like circulating petitions before 1776, as you know.

01:26:51.000 But I'm saying get petitions going, get committee hearings in the state legislatures, get this buzz going, because this is what the whole globalist architecture is set up to block, because it's the key to restoring our republic.

01:27:03.000 Their entire defense is set up against this because this is the answer.

01:27:08.000 Well, I think that's right.

01:27:10.000 Two things.

01:27:11.000 We wanted to project the idea That we maintain our independence from this globalist structure.

01:27:20.000 I don't like the idea of saying we're seceding from it, because I don't think they've won yet.

01:27:23.000 They're close to it, but they haven't won yet.

01:27:25.000 And I don't like the word secession, because the other side uses that to bring up the concept of slavery, racism, and so forth and so on, which I think is an entirely red herring, because it doesn't make any difference whether you're black or white.

01:27:39.000 Liberty is the best thing for you.

01:27:41.000 End of discussion, right?

01:27:41.000 Period.

01:27:43.000 But they're going to play on that word constantly in order to divide and conquer people on a racial basis.

01:27:52.000 So we don't want to give them that rhetorical.

01:27:55.000 Okay, then how do we seize the wave, though, and get the movement going?

01:28:00.000 I mean, we need Ron Paul yourself.

01:28:02.000 If Ron Paul makes the call and puts together a meeting and invites state and federal legislators and governors, people will show up.

01:28:09.000 It will be seen as a recodification, a reissuance of the Declaration, and then a battle plan to go to the states.

01:28:15.000 It must happen now.

01:28:16.000 Ron Paul's retiring.

01:28:18.000 I know he wants to push for Internet freedom.

01:28:19.000 That's the new plan, because they had a focus group.

01:28:22.000 You know, ask all the Campaign for Liberty people what they wanted.

01:28:25.000 That's great, but that's not the battle plan.

01:28:27.000 We have got to draft Ron Paul now to launch this operation.

01:28:33.000 And through Ron Paul to find those leaders at the state level who will take a position in the forefront.

01:28:43.000 That's always been my concern.

01:28:45.000 After you go beyond Ron Paul, Where are the leaders at the state level who are going to perform this function?

01:28:52.000 Right?

01:28:52.000 Yes, sir.

01:28:53.000 But this is his greatest moment.

01:28:54.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:28:55.000 And with you, and with Mr. Fine, and other constitutional lawyers who have charted from our births the way forward, it's our responsibility.

01:29:05.000 There is no doubt that Ron Paul, you and others, must get together.

01:29:09.000 This is where Campaign for Liberty must go.

01:29:12.000 Well, I think that's right.

01:29:15.000 And the very fact that there is such a groundswell developing in this country.

01:29:20.000 Yes.

01:29:21.000 Now is the time to take advantage of that.

01:29:25.000 It's history, sir.

01:29:26.000 This is 1776.

01:29:27.000 In my heart and intellectually, I mean, do you not feel that and know that, sir?

01:29:31.000 Well, it's probably about 1773.

01:29:34.000 Probably closer to it if you look at the history.

01:29:36.000 Yes, yes, but I mean, I'm in the birth of it.

01:29:39.000 When they started organizing politically, when they started looking forward to what they feared was going to happen if the king and the ministry didn't accede to some reforms.

01:29:49.000 It took them two or three years to get that organization, that structure set up.

01:29:53.000 And then finally, when the English government, the British government refused to comply with the colonists' justifiable demands, then of course other things happened.

01:30:02.000 Stay there, sir.

01:30:03.000 Walk us through this for five, six more minutes.

01:30:05.000 On the other side, then we'll play clips of the Ron Paul speech.

01:30:07.000 Exactly.

01:30:08.000 I'm saying this is the beginning of 1776.

01:30:10.000 As I said in the last hour, this will take two to three years.

01:30:12.000 He didn't even know I said that.

01:30:14.000 We're on the same page.

01:30:15.000 God bless you, Dr. Vieira.

01:30:17.000 We'll be right back.

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01:33:56.000 What we so proudly hear The globalists have now signed petitions.

01:34:01.000 I have them right here.

01:34:02.000 We've done articles on it.

01:34:03.000 Paul Watson has one.

01:34:04.000 They're saying arrest us, imprison us, strip us of citizenship, put us in labor camps.

01:34:10.000 I mean, they're getting 20,000, 30,000 signatures for these.

01:34:13.000 So we're seeing who the Democrats are.

01:34:15.000 This is what socialists always do.

01:34:17.000 Once things start imploding, they go, just put the workers in a camp.

01:34:21.000 At first, it's make them come out and, you know, dig ditches.

01:34:24.000 And it's all about nobody's running your life.

01:34:26.000 I mean, we know where this leads.

01:34:28.000 But the globalists don't care.

01:34:29.000 They want total domination.

01:34:31.000 They want to start a civil war, marching the military and police off to confiscate our guns.

01:34:35.000 Obama is certainly looking at, as the NRA documented and has now admitted, on banning all semi-autos.

01:34:42.000 We've got to turn them in.

01:34:43.000 Because they don't want us to start a peaceful states' rights movement and restore the republic.

01:34:47.000 They know you're waking up.

01:34:48.000 They know Europe's waking up.

01:34:50.000 This is a banking cartel takeover, as Ron Paul said.

01:34:52.000 I'm going to play that clip in about 7-8 minutes after constitutional lawyer and advisor to Ron Paul, Edwin Vieira, leaves us.

01:35:01.000 Doctor, I'm going to try to give you the floor because I'm so excited at this historical crest.

01:35:05.000 Repeat to folks what you told me during the break about Ron Paul and the mantle, and where we're going, and that you concur, and that you're going to talk to him, and everybody else should, and we're going to get Bruce Fine, constitutional lawyer and advisor to Ron Paul on, Lou Rockwell, I'm going to call all his sources, I'm going to get a hold of Ron Paul, and I'm going to say now is the time To step into the leadership, to organize as your final, you know, incredible work.

01:35:34.000 This is such a great work that we're talking about here.

01:35:36.000 To build the foundation going into this tyranny of the resistance.

01:35:41.000 This is it.

01:35:42.000 I know Ron Paul, who's accepted the draft twice, will accept it a third time.

01:35:47.000 And he has thrown some of the little minions out of Campaign for Liberty that were saying, don't talk about the New World Order.

01:35:54.000 He has exposed the global government in his speech.

01:35:56.000 Dr. Vieira, what is your battle plan?

01:35:58.000 What is your idea?

01:35:59.000 That's why we got you on, to get these ideas out, to set brush fires, and then to codify the plan based on our forbearer's successful operation.

01:36:09.000 Well, as I said to you during the break, Alex, the first step is for Ron Paul to come forward and assume the mantle of leadership here.

01:36:17.000 If you look at the parallel, the American Independence Movement, we had just paragons of intellectual and political virtue.

01:36:26.000 The Jeffersons, the Adamses, the Patrick Henrys, even the Alexander Hamiltons.

01:36:31.000 But there was one man who stood out and had to stand out.

01:36:34.000 Of course, that was George Washington.

01:36:37.000 And that's exactly what we need at this point in time.

01:36:40.000 Here is the man of undoubted integrity.

01:36:42.000 Here is the man who has been telling us and warning us about these problems, not just for years, but for decades.

01:36:48.000 Here's the man who has proven right, and he needs to be the figure who stands in the forefront of this movement to restore the Constitutional Declaration of Independence.

01:36:58.000 And then he needs to find

01:37:02.000 Really, at the state level, more than anywhere else, I'm not so concerned about finding them yet in Washington, D.C., but at the state level, leaders of that caliber, with the integrity, with the political acumen, with the willingness to take on this project, not simply because their own political careers might be advanced, because initially I think they won't be, but because the welfare of the American people will be advanced.

01:37:29.000 And then he needs to bring in With that group, a sizable number of advisors who have what I would call a fair track record on these economic and political issues.

01:37:42.000 If he wants to call on me as an advisor, I'll be perfectly willing to come forward and work with him.

01:37:47.000 And I think that there are probably dozens or hundreds of others like me out in the country that would say and do exactly the same thing.

01:37:53.000 But it needs his leadership.

01:37:57.000 He is the national figure here.

01:37:59.000 He is the one whom everyone on either side of the political yellow line, if you will, recognizes.

01:38:06.000 They recognize him for his personal integrity, they recognize him for the leadership role he's taken at the national level, and ultimately they recognize this is the man who not only has been right, but has never compromised his principles.

01:38:23.000 Which is the real key, because what's gone on in the destruction of our constitutional system is the systematic compromise and prostitution of principles for politicians in order to advance their personal careers.

01:38:37.000 And this is one man who's never done that.

01:38:39.000 The only one I can think of, really, at that level who has not done it.

01:38:42.000 Yes, sir.

01:38:43.000 So people need to get to him and urge him.

01:38:47.000 Urge him with a capital U.

01:38:50.000 To step forward as essentially his last act in the political arena to take on and begin this project.

01:39:01.000 I can feel history rising.

01:39:03.000 I can feel the spirit of 1776 like I've never felt it, listeners.

01:39:07.000 You know that.

01:39:08.000 This is the most important broadcast we've ever done, and Dr. Vieira feels it.

01:39:13.000 I feel it.

01:39:13.000 You can see it.

01:39:15.000 And here's what must be understood.

01:39:17.000 Campaign for Liberty are great people.

01:39:19.000 I've gotten mad at some of the folks there trying to play patty cake, some of the young men that have become political consultants for the mainline Republican Party.

01:39:27.000 Folks that have married into the Pauls like Jesse Benton, you know, people like Jack Hunter that are involved, who, you know, go out to eat with billionaires and kind of get stars in their eyes.

01:39:36.000 They're not bad guys, they're just not Ron Paul.

01:39:40.000 Rand Paul I've known for 15, 16 years.

01:39:42.000 He used to come on and campaign for his dad.

01:39:45.000 He's a good guy, he's just up there trying to position himself.

01:39:51.000 You know, to be able to win the presidency later, and I get that.

01:39:53.000 That's not going to happen, folks.

01:39:55.000 In four years, in eight years, the globalists are going to win.

01:39:59.000 Or it's going to be a civil war.

01:40:00.000 We've got to be all in now, folks.

01:40:02.000 That's why they're moving so fast.

01:40:04.000 I've got three children.

01:40:06.000 And I've got to sit there with my wife, who's extremely intelligent. 0.99

01:40:11.000 And she, you know, has degrees in history, and she's like, okay, but, you know, we've got to get out of here.

01:40:16.000 And she's lived all over the world.

01:40:18.000 And her dad worked for the Department of Agriculture, and she's like, we got to get out of here.

01:40:23.000 And I've got to say, no, we're putting it all on the line.

01:40:25.000 We're staying.

01:40:26.000 I've signed my name to the new Declaration of Independence.

01:40:29.000 I'm all in, folks.

01:40:30.000 I mean, I've got dirty tricks happening to me you wouldn't believe.

01:40:34.000 It's like a movie.

01:40:36.000 And I'm just like, you know what?

01:40:37.000 I'm all in.

01:40:37.000 Because, folks, there's nowhere to run.

01:40:39.000 This is history.

01:40:40.000 And people that are scared, you don't understand.

01:40:43.000 You should be scared of not taking action.

01:40:45.000 And there are people in Campaign for Liberty who will say, oh, let's just work with the system.

01:40:50.000 Let's take over the Republicans.

01:40:51.000 And they have been getting people like Cruz elected over the neocon, you know, in the Senate here in Texas.

01:40:58.000 They're getting a lot of good people in who, at least on the surface, are saying the right thing.

01:41:02.000 So, Campaign for Liberty, I've analyzed all this as Dr. Vieira is breaking down.

01:41:06.000 He's analyzed it.

01:41:07.000 Campaign for Liberty already knows who the good guys are in all the states.

01:41:10.000 It's already got all our money.

01:41:11.000 We gave it.

01:41:12.000 It's got everything.

01:41:13.000 It is the zenith.

01:41:14.000 It is the launchpad.

01:41:15.000 It is the fulcrum.

01:41:17.000 It is the progenitor.

01:41:20.000 As I said in the first hour, we're three years out.

01:41:23.000 Two to three years.

01:41:24.000 We have to launch now.

01:41:26.000 History is repeating itself and the entire globalist operation is designed to stop a state's rights restoration movement that Dr. Vieira has laid out to Ron Paul.

01:41:36.000 And again, Ron Paul gets his own ideas, historically, going to the same documents, but he sources Dr. Vieira and his battle plan.

01:41:44.000 Dr. Fine, both constitutional lawyers, PhDs.

01:41:47.000 This is it.

01:41:48.000 But I separately have gone and done the research, and it is incredible.

01:41:54.000 Sir, thank you so much.

01:41:55.000 I hope you'll come back very soon to really lay out some battle plans.

01:41:59.000 I know you've already laid them out, but if you'd put out articles, it's articles that lay it out.

01:42:03.000 We're writing an article that others can add to.

01:42:05.000 I think we should all invade.

01:42:06.000 Anybody can do it.

01:42:08.000 Whitehouse.gov forward slash petitions, and everyone should codify their own ideas of a restoration.

01:42:14.000 And we see the authoritarian lust.

01:42:18.000 The Democrats want to get a civil war going.

01:42:20.000 We need to reach out to the military and police now.

01:42:24.000 This is a very perilous time we're in, and they're going to call us secessionists.

01:42:29.000 So I just simply say restorationists, through the states, reconvening a constitutional congress.

01:42:37.000 So we need you, the constitutional lawyers and others, to codify different plans, to help Ron Paul adopt a strategy, and to launch now.

01:42:46.000 Any other points you'd like to make, Doctor?

01:42:49.000 America is the last bastion of human freedom in the world today.

01:42:54.000 This is our responsibility as Americans.

01:42:57.000 And my view has always been we need to take action immediately, if not sooner.

01:43:03.000 We can't wait for Rand Paul.

01:43:05.000 Do you agree we don't have four to eight years to play patty cake with the Republicans?

01:43:09.000 No, because the economic freight train is coming down the tracks at us at a very high velocity.

01:43:13.000 We can't avoid that.

01:43:15.000 And what will be the political consequences of a complete breakup of the international banking system?

01:43:21.000 And they're going to use that meltdown as a way to... Absolutely.

01:43:24.000 They'll try to use it for their benefit.

01:43:26.000 And we're facing that, and they're not going to be able to prevent it from happening, but they're going to try and use it.

01:43:30.000 We're facing that train wreck, and we have to prepare ourselves to deal with that now.

01:43:36.000 Now!

01:43:37.000 Now!

01:43:38.000 That's the operative word.

01:43:38.000 That's right.

01:43:40.000 I pledge myself, doctor, to you and Dr. Paul.

01:43:43.000 I pledge myself to my family before God on the altar of liberty, as Thomas Jefferson said.

01:43:48.000 I swear eternal resistance to every form of tyranny over the mind of humankind.

01:43:52.000 And I know you pledge with me now on the listeners pledge.

01:43:55.000 We aren't gonna stop.

01:43:57.000 We're drafting Ron Paul.

01:43:58.000 We're drafting all liberty lovers.

01:44:00.000 Go to your state houses now.

01:44:02.000 Go visit Absolutely.

01:44:04.000 I've been doing that for a long time now.

01:44:05.000 That's right.

01:44:06.000 We have our work cut out for us.

01:44:08.000 What's the old saying?

01:44:09.000 get your banners out.

01:44:11.000 We have begun the restoration.

01:44:13.000 Nothing will stop it.

01:44:15.000 Do you pledge that with me, Dr. Vieira?

01:44:17.000 Absolutely.

01:44:18.000 I've been doing that for a long time.

01:44:20.000 I know, but I'm just all of us here together.

01:44:22.000 That's right.

01:44:22.000 We have our work cut out for us.

01:44:24.000 What's the old saying?

01:44:26.000 When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

01:44:29.000 It's always darkest before the dawn.

01:44:33.000 That's right.

01:44:33.000 It had to get bad before people get up.

01:44:36.000 That's right.

01:44:37.000 And now is the time.

01:44:40.000 And they want to start the Civil War with a gun confiscation.

01:44:42.000 We've got a race now to accelerate our operations against them.

01:44:46.000 It may be able to back them off and buy us time.

01:44:48.000 But, sir, I know there's a lot of sites that post your great articles, your books, your materials.

01:44:53.000 Where's the best place to find your information?

01:44:56.000 Right now it's at newswithviews.com.

01:44:59.000 One word, newswithviews.com.

01:45:02.000 Yes, sir.

01:45:03.000 Excellent material.

01:45:04.000 All right, we've got our work cut out, but the tide in the affairs of men, when taken at the flood, leads on to liberty.

01:45:10.000 God bless you, sir.

01:45:11.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:45:12.000 Bye-bye.

01:45:12.000 All right, there he goes, ladies and gentlemen.

01:45:14.000 And again, now is the time.

01:45:17.000 Now is the time.

01:45:18.000 Now is the time.

01:45:20.000 I do not have words to describe.

01:45:22.000 We're going to cover it more on the nightly news tonight.

01:45:24.000 We're going to cover it more tomorrow.

01:45:25.000 On the Sunday show, I'll be live.

01:45:26.000 I'm going to play large excerpts of this.

01:45:28.000 I want to play a particularly powerful part of the 49-minute speech that Ron Paul gave on the House floor.

01:45:36.000 He called it questions.

01:45:38.000 Excessive government has created such a mess, it prompts many questions.

01:45:42.000 He goes through those, we'll go to break with that, then we're going to come back with his conclusion, how we've been conquered by world government.

01:45:49.000 Only admitting we've been conquered fraudulently.

01:45:53.000 You've got to admit you're a slave before you start becoming free.

01:45:57.000 And let me tell you, the greatest honor I've ever had, the greatest treasure, Even above my children, because they have no future if we don't win, is that God saw fit to take a wretch like me and to rise me up in all the things that happen in my life to prepare me for this moment of what we're beginning now.

01:46:14.000 The bell cannot be unrung.

01:46:16.000 To know with surety that we're going to win if God be with us who can stand against us.

01:46:23.000 And it's time for everyone who's in thought and everything else to repent before God I even repent for nasty things I've said about Glenn Beck.

01:46:31.000 I should have responded to him more gentlemanly.

01:46:33.000 I apologize for when he said bad things about me being worldly.

01:46:36.000 We don't have time for this.

01:46:38.000 We don't have time to fight with each other anymore.

01:46:40.000 We don't have time for all this petty stuff.

01:46:44.000 We have got to come together.

01:46:46.000 All of us.

01:46:46.000 So I repent for my trespasses.

01:46:49.000 Do you repent for yours?

01:46:50.000 All of my enemies out there.

01:46:52.000 Please come in for the big win.

01:46:55.000 Please realize how much trouble we're in.

01:46:56.000 Realize how much danger we're in.

01:46:58.000 These globalists are dangerous.

01:47:03.000 We have to get involved now.

01:47:05.000 We have to get aggressive now.

01:47:07.000 We have to go out and wake up everybody we can now.

01:47:10.000 And then we come back in the next segment, his conclusion.

01:47:14.000 You know, we've put, with this show, eugenics back on the map. 0.98

01:47:17.000 We've put the fact that we're conquered on the map with that nomenclature.

01:47:19.000 The truth!

01:47:20.000 The truth will set us free!

01:47:24.000 Admit how far we've fallen! 0.97

01:47:25.000 Admit how pathetic we've gotten! 0.97

01:47:27.000 Only then can we rise again! 0.96

01:47:30.000 And Ron Paul is now getting more hardcore because that's all he can do.

01:47:34.000 Now that Ron Paul's leaving Congress, now that his son's in the Senate, all this, Ron Paul, it's time to come out both barrels.

01:47:41.000 I know you're a man, after my own heart, I know you know what I know.

01:47:47.000 Say it all!

01:47:48.000 Lay it out!

01:47:49.000 Throw yourself against the New World Order, and all of us will as well. 0.71

01:47:55.000 I have a few questions.

01:47:57.000 That's the Campaign for Liberty establishment types that have infiltrated.

01:47:59.000 Let them hit the streets.

01:48:00.000 They're already getting their big Republican jobs.

01:48:02.000 I know you've purged them.

01:48:04.000 Good.

01:48:05.000 Good.

01:48:06.000 Because there is no future now.

01:48:08.000 All in.

01:48:09.000 Here's part of Ron Paul's speech.

01:48:11.000 We'll go to break and finish up with the rest of it.

01:48:13.000 Here he is saying some questions.

01:48:15.000 And he lists the incredible tyranny we're under.

01:48:16.000 And I have some other points.

01:48:17.000 Here it is.

01:48:18.000 I have a few questions.

01:48:19.000 Excessive government has created such a mess, it prompts many questions.

01:48:25.000 Why are sick people who use medical marijuana put in prison?

01:48:30.000 Hmm.

01:48:31.000 Why does the federal government restrict the drinking of raw milk?

01:48:36.000 Why can't American manufacturers rope and other products from hemp? 0.50

01:48:42.000 Why are Americans not allowed to use gold and silver as legal tender as mandated by the Constitution?

01:48:49.000 Why is Germany concerned enough to consider repatriating their gold held by the Fed for her in New York?

01:48:56.000 Is it that the trust in the US and dollar supremacy beginning to wane?

01:49:02.000 Why do our political leaders believe it's unnecessary to thoroughly audit our own gold?

01:49:06.000 political leaders believe it's unnecessary to thoroughly audit our own goal why can't americans decide which type of light bulbs they can buy why is it the tsa permitted to abuse the rights of any american traveling by air Why should there be mandatory sentences even up to life for crimes without victims as our drug laws require?

01:49:32.000 Why have we allowed the federal government to regulate commodes in our homes?

01:49:36.000 Why is it political suicide for anyone to criticize AIPAC?

01:49:41.000 Why haven't we given up on the drug war since it's an obvious failure and violates the people's rights?

01:49:48.000 Has nobody noticed that the authorities can't even keep drugs out of the prisons?

01:49:54.000 How can making our entire society a prison solve the problem?

01:49:59.000 Why do we sacrifice so much getting unnecessarily involved in border disputes and civil strife around the world And ignore the root cause of the most dangerous deadly border in the world, the one between Mexico and the United States.

01:50:15.000 Why does Congress willingly give up its prerogatives to the executive branch? 0.63

01:50:21.000 Why is changing the party in power never a change policy?

01:50:25.000 Could it be that the views of both parties are essentially the same?

01:50:29.000 Why did the big banks, the large corporations and foreign banks and foreign central banks get bailed out in 2008 and the middle class lost their jobs and their homes?

01:50:41.000 Why do so many in the government and the federal officials believe that creating money out of thin air creates wealth?

01:50:49.000 Why do so many accept the deeply flawed principle that government bureaucrats and politicians can protect us from ourselves without totally destroying the principle of liberty?

01:51:00.000 Folks, we're going to come back and finish up the wide part of this, and then we're going to get to the most powerful.

01:51:06.000 The whole thing, though, he says we have a cancerous group of psychopaths, that's a quote, running things.

01:51:12.000 I mean, he lays it all out.

01:51:13.000 World government, we're conquered.

01:51:14.000 It is unbelievable 49 minutes.

01:51:18.000 And we're just going to cover it and cover it and cover it.

01:51:21.000 Ron Paul is standing up.

01:51:23.000 I mean, it's time to go 110% into the eye of the enemy.

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01:54:26.000 I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

01:54:41.000 Thomas Jefferson.

01:54:42.000 It's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:54:47.000 Make no mistake, my friends, you are living history.

01:54:52.000 And I can't believe they have national talk show hosts.

01:54:54.000 Not just one, but multiple ones now.

01:54:59.000 Openly saying, don't sign petitions, they'll put you on a list, they'll come get you.

01:55:02.000 Come get me!

01:55:04.000 The war has already begun.

01:55:07.000 It's an info war.

01:55:10.000 The enemy wants to make it physical. 0.86

01:55:12.000 Strike me down! 1.00

01:55:13.000 I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine in the idea.

01:55:17.000 I'm not gonna live as a slave, okay? 0.99

01:55:20.000 I mean, these globalists are nasty folks. 0.99

01:55:22.000 These are eugenicists. 0.98

01:55:23.000 They've got a covert war going on against us.

01:55:27.000 An undeclared secret war with the chemicals and biologicals in our food and water.

01:55:30.000 We're far gone.

01:55:32.000 We need to get back in their face. 1.00

01:55:34.000 All of you people that serve the system, you're victims as well, you fools. 0.99

01:55:39.000 We've got a breakaway civilization of technocrats that think they're going to be able to take everything over. 1.00

01:55:45.000 Man, we're in trouble.

01:55:47.000 Why did large banks, large corporations, and foreign banks, and foreign central banks get bailed out in 2008, and the middle class lost their jobs and their homes?

01:55:54.000 Let's continue with this, out the rest of this segment, then coming up after Lew Rockwell and others, I'm going to play about five minutes where he has his summation.

01:56:03.000 And boy, he breaks down that we're under global government.

01:56:06.000 Unelected global government run by eugenicists. 0.89

01:56:09.000 Let's go ahead and go back to his questions.

01:56:12.000 Here it is.

01:56:12.000 Without totally destroying the principle of liberty, why can't people understand that war always destroys wealth and liberty?

01:56:21.000 Why is there no, so little concern for the executive order that gives the president authority to establish a kill list, including American citizens, of those targeted for assassination?

01:56:34.000 Why is patriotism thought to be blind loyalty to the government and the politicians who run it rather than loyalty to the principles of liberty and support for the people?

01:56:45.000 Real patriotism is a willingness to challenge the government when it's wrong.

01:56:51.000 Why is it claimed that if people won't or can't take care of their own needs that people in government are able to do it for them?

01:57:00.000 Why did we ever give the government a safe haven for initiating violence against the people?

01:57:07.000 Why do so many members defend free markets but not civil liberties?

01:57:12.000 Why do so many members defend civil liberties but not free markets?

01:57:16.000 Aren't they the same?

01:57:19.000 Why don't more defend both economic liberty and personal liberty?

01:57:23.000 Why are there not more individuals who seek to intellectually influence others to bring about positive changes Those who seek power changes than those who seek power to force others to obey their commands.

01:57:38.000 Why does the use of religion to support a social gospel and preemptive wars, both of which require authoritarians to use violence or the threat of violence, go unchallenged?

01:57:49.000 Aggression and forced redistribution of wealth has nothing to do with the teachings of the world's great religions.

01:57:58.000 Why do we allow the government and the Federal Reserve to disseminate false information dealing with both economic and foreign policy?

01:58:05.000 Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it's the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? 0.98

01:58:19.000 Why should anyone be surprised that Congress has no credibility since there's such a disconnect between what politicians say and what they do?

01:58:29.000 Is there any explanation for all the deception, the unhappiness, the fear of the future, the loss of confidence in our leaders, the distrust and the anger and frustration?

01:58:38.000 Because we're under great evil.

01:58:38.000 Yes, there is.

01:58:39.000 Yes, there is.

01:58:40.000 And there's a way to reverse this attitude.

01:58:42.000 Alright, we're going to break.

01:58:44.000 When we come back, we are going to have Lou Rockwell on.

01:58:46.000 No, actually, we have Porter Stansbury on to break down what's happening in the economy, then Lou Rockwell.

01:58:52.000 But I will continue with clips from this as well, even when Lou Rockwell's on with us.

01:58:59.000 Here's the deal, folks.

01:59:00.000 We're going into total bondage.

01:59:02.000 It's pre-planned, and Ron Paul talks about that in his speech as well.

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02:00:49.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we ladies and gentlemen, we have a record audience we can see at Infowars.com and also in the audio streams.

02:01:13.000 So I would imagine it's like that on XM and on our 140 plus AM and FM affiliates right now.

02:01:18.000 I've been really trying to get him on for a while and he said he had 30 minutes with us today.

02:01:24.000 Whatever he talks about in this short segment, we'll recap in the next.

02:01:26.000 But Porter Stansbury, you know, he predicted they'd go into QE3.

02:01:30.000 They're now starting it.

02:01:32.000 He predicted so much of what was going to happen in the last decade and he is now predicting right now, well it's in the mainstream news, that they're going to try to push for a third term for Obama in the mass depression they're going to engineer.

02:01:46.000 And so we're going to be looking at that a lot more and where he sees the future of this country.

02:01:51.000 I'll give you his bio more in the next segment.

02:01:54.000 But Porter, great to have you back with us.

02:01:56.000 It's always a pleasure.

02:01:57.000 Thanks for having me.

02:01:58.000 I know you create special websites for different projects.

02:02:03.000 What is the best website for people to go to where you have the proof and the information that they're trying to move in this direction?

02:02:10.000 It's thirdterm1.com. So thirdterm1.com.

02:02:18.000 Well, we've got that site up on screen for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

02:02:25.000 We'll continue to give it out.

02:02:27.000 I want to get into the economy with you, but coming up, what are you going to be able to break down for folks with what's happening dealing with the economy?

02:02:37.000 Well, from the economy standpoint, I've got some numbers for you on these supposed efforts to cut the spending and things like that.

02:02:43.000 I'll show you.

02:02:44.000 There's no way they're going to be able to do it.

02:02:47.000 And in regards to Obama's third term, I'd really like people to see that there's a connection between something that's going on in the oil business and presidential politics.

02:02:59.000 Continuing as well, QE Unlimited has begun and they are talking about all these major currencies going down.

02:03:06.000 Will people even notice if the big event accelerates?

02:03:12.000 I think people are definitely going to notice the fact that their purchasing power is being eliminated by the ongoing inflation that the government refuses to recognize.

02:03:22.000 The website, folks, if you want to see the breakdown, the video presentation is www.3rdterm1.com.

02:03:31.000 That's the number three, just the numeral three, just three, RDTerm1.

02:03:37.000 ThirdTerm1.com is the best way for people to find that URL.

02:03:45.000 And I do think we should discuss this because if we don't discuss the fact that Democratic operatives are in newspapers that you point out in your presentation up on the site, if we don't point out that they're pushing this and that they're trying to float the idea like they did with Schwarzenegger to change the 22nd Amendment so he can run for president, they're going to end up doing it.

02:04:01.000 I mean, he just signed an executive order today and made it secret.

02:04:05.000 ...what his new cyber security takeover is, but we know what the bill was.

02:04:08.000 Even CBS News said it's a takeover of the internet, Chinese-style control.

02:04:14.000 Yeah, well, if you just look and see what he's been doing to win these elections by ramping up the enormous amounts of spending that the government's giving directly to individuals, $750 billion now on welfare programs that go directly to individuals, food stamp rolls that have increased by 50% in his presidency, If you take just those people who get food stamps, that's like 75% of the people that voted for him.

02:04:44.000 So, you know, he and the Democratic Party are engineering these election victories, and I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that he could find a way to engineer the repeal of the 22nd Amendment.

02:04:55.000 But even if he doesn't do that, Alex, that doesn't necessarily mean that he won't have a third term.

02:05:01.000 He could have a proxy, and that's one of the things I talk about.

02:05:04.000 He could put up Eric Holder, for example, to be the next president, while he actually remains in control of the administration, much like Putin has done in Russia.

02:05:13.000 Oh yeah, Putin with Medvedev, and then he came back again.

02:05:16.000 Medvedev, I always have trouble pronouncing it.

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02:08:41.000 Defending the republic from enemies foreign and domestic.

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02:08:58.000 I love what a wimp the average Democratic Party operative is.

02:09:04.000 And there are millions in people.

02:09:05.000 I mean, it really is shameful to watch as now 1,300,000 and counting people have signed petitions.

02:09:12.000 All 50 states are about to qualify.

02:09:15.000 Last time I checked, it's like 20 states have now qualified to have to get a White House response because of the number of petitions to secede.

02:09:22.000 But people don't really know.

02:09:23.000 You don't go to the whitehouse.gov to secede.

02:09:25.000 You go to your legislature.

02:09:26.000 I'm not calling for the classical secession.

02:09:29.000 The federal government's been taken over.

02:09:31.000 And so I'm saying, have the states get together and organize and say, hold your horses.

02:09:36.000 You're out of control.

02:09:38.000 We want to restore the republic.

02:09:39.000 I mean, the foreign banks brag they've conquered this country, just like they brag they've conquered European nations.

02:09:44.000 And Porter Stansbury predicted all of this.

02:09:46.000 Lou Rockwell's coming up.

02:09:49.000 They're now threatening people and he's got an article posted at LewRockwell.com saying don't do this or you're going to regret it.

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02:09:59.000 It's your right to say we want to secede from this federal thing.

02:10:02.000 Whether it's unsophisticated or not, it's people voicing their concern.

02:10:07.000 So Lou Rockwell is coming up.

02:10:09.000 More Ron Paul speech where he says world government's taking us over.

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02:11:02.000 And I gotta say, yeah, they are floating articles everywhere saying in the news right now, hey, Obama should run for a third term.

02:11:09.000 We're gonna get into this, the latest on the economy, QE3, what he sees happening.

02:11:14.000 But first, I gotta ask you, Porter, What do you make of them saying, you didn't build it, we're going to bankrupt America, we're going to confiscate all semi-automatic rifles and handguns, and Democrats are really saying, hey, let's start arresting people, and you're racist if you don't like world government.

02:11:30.000 I mean, this is even nastier than I thought it would be.

02:11:34.000 This is crazy.

02:11:35.000 I mean, why do you think they're trying to totally take over right now?

02:11:38.000 I think they believe that they have the votes, that they have the power, the people behind them.

02:11:44.000 And I think if you look at what's going on in our country, this idea of class warfare has really materialized, where you have half of the people that voted for Obama receiving enormous direct federal handouts.

02:11:59.000 Well, that's because they're part of the same globalist system.

02:12:02.000 has perfected this machine that buys elections.

02:12:07.000 And they're gonna see how far they can take that, because it doesn't look like the Republicans can get organized enough to stop them.

02:12:14.000 Well, that's because they're part of the same globalist system.

02:12:16.000 Where do you think the power structure's trying to take us, Porter?

02:12:21.000 Well, just look at, you know, just sort of look what's going on around the country.

02:12:26.000 You have the highest amount of dependence on the government in the history of the United States.

02:12:32.000 At the same time, you have the federal government beginning to break apart financially.

02:12:36.000 Let me throw this number out at you, Alex, and you tell me where it leads.

02:12:41.000 Right now, the government is spending, the federal government is spending $55,000 per household in the United States.

02:12:46.000 There are 114 million households.

02:12:52.000 We're spending $55,000 per household on government in the United States right now.

02:12:58.000 The average income per household is only $50,000 in the United States.

02:13:03.000 Does that make any sense?

02:13:04.000 Is there any country in the world that can spend more on government than it earns in income?

02:13:10.000 It leads towards designed implosion.

02:13:13.000 And the weekly standard said it's 61,000 breaking down congressional numbers.

02:13:17.000 But let's just say 55,000 the average welfare household is getting.

02:13:21.000 And they are bringing us into debt servitude.

02:13:25.000 They are de-industrializing the country under agenda 21.

02:13:28.000 We are being conquered just like Stalin conquered Ukraine by turning off the economy. 0.63

02:13:38.000 I just look at the numbers side of things, and I can't find any plausible reason that either party would run the country this way. 0.51

02:13:48.000 They're dooming generations of Americans to poverty and dependence, and they're doing it by bribing these ignorant voters who will believe anything they read and will do whatever they have to do to get a free book. 0.91

02:14:04.000 That's worse than that. 0.96

02:14:05.000 More and more Democrats, and they talk about it on all the shows.

02:14:08.000 Bill Maher talks about it.

02:14:10.000 They say they're going to just arrest us and put us in forced labor camps.

02:14:13.000 I'm not joking.

02:14:14.000 That's in the new army manuals. 1.00

02:14:15.000 I mean, they're going to come literally put us on plantations, Porter, and let big fat government slobs beat our brains out, rape our wives. 1.00

02:14:22.000 I mean, that's really there. 1.00

02:14:24.000 I'm not kidding.

02:14:24.000 That's what they want to do.

02:14:26.000 Well, they're not going to do that to me, Alex.

02:14:28.000 I'm prepared to leave if things turn out No, no, no.

02:14:32.000 But listen, I want listeners to know I'm not joking.

02:14:34.000 They are licking their lips.

02:14:37.000 Misery loves company.

02:14:38.000 They just want to wreck and just decimate everything.

02:14:41.000 I mean, this is what happens in every other country.

02:14:43.000 And look at how decadent we are.

02:14:45.000 Ron Paul talked about it in his farewell speech.

02:14:46.000 He said, we are incredibly immoral and evil. 0.99

02:14:49.000 We are run by authoritarian psychopaths. 0.93

02:14:53.000 I mean, let me tell you, we cannot underestimate, Porter, how bad it's going to get.

02:14:57.000 I agree with you completely on the economic side of things, and I thought that Ron Paul's farewell speech was the most poignant political speech I have seen in our country since George Washington's farewell address.

02:15:11.000 That should be mandatory for every American to watch and to listen and to think about.

02:15:18.000 He's the only political leader in the United States who is willing to tell Americans the truth about our government, which is one, that we're financially bankrupt, and two, that we're morally bankrupt.

02:15:31.000 America is dead.

02:15:32.000 Basically, Dr. Paul, but we're not physical.

02:15:36.000 We can be resurrected.

02:15:37.000 But we're dead.

02:15:38.000 It's over.

02:15:39.000 We're far gone.

02:15:40.000 By design, we've been conquered.

02:15:43.000 And now we're about to be de-industrialized.

02:15:44.000 Porter, break down what you think Obama's planning from his own operative statements.

02:15:49.000 During the implosion, he'll be the FDR that saves us. 0.95

02:15:51.000 Break that down and stay in office.

02:15:54.000 Well, you know, Alex, I think the one thing that's going on in our country right now that could delay the fiscal implosion is the renaissance in the oil and gas industry in America.

02:16:07.000 It's very real.

02:16:07.000 It's very powerful.

02:16:08.000 And it's going to produce a lot more revenue and a lot more power for politicians. 0.74

02:16:14.000 And that is going to, the way I see things, if you look at people who ran for president for three terms, it's Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Obama.

02:16:24.000 And they all had certain things in common.

02:16:26.000 They are all populist.

02:16:27.000 They all spent a lot of money on people.

02:16:29.000 And they are, of course, all very progressive.

02:16:32.000 But the other thing they had in common was in 1901, there was an oil boom from Spindletop.

02:16:37.000 In 1930, there was an oil boom from East Texas.

02:16:41.000 And right now, going on in America, is the biggest renaissance in oil since 1930.

02:16:45.000 It's the shale boom.

02:16:47.000 And all this oil is producing huge new revenues for the Feds, and also enormous power for Obama, because right now, it's against the law to export oil.

02:17:00.000 And so he has the ability to grant licenses that could be worth hundreds of billions of dollars to corporations.

02:17:06.000 And of course, he's going to use that power and all that leverage to propel himself into a third term.

02:17:12.000 And yesterday, the Commerce Department announced that the United States is now the number one producer in the world, surpassing Saudi Arabia.

02:17:20.000 Yeah, most Americans don't realize what's happened over the last three or four years in the oil fields.

02:17:26.000 There's been a huge renaissance in oil.

02:17:28.000 Everywhere I drive in Texas, they're drilling.

02:17:28.000 I do!

02:17:31.000 Yeah, and listen, Alex, that's undeniably bullish for our economy, and it could absolutely sustain our currency for another five or ten years.

02:17:41.000 This is going to really impact our trade deficits, and assuming that we begin to export this excess energy, It could really help the balance of trade for our country, but in the process, it's going to make an icon out of Obama, because he's going to take all this money like Chavez did, and he's going to buy more votes and more power, which is exactly what Teddy Roosevelt did, and it's exactly what FDR did.

02:18:04.000 Well, that's what Lindsey Williams was saying, is that after they imploded the economy, they would bring in all this new oil, and that that would buoy things better than the rest of the world, but there'll still be an overall global depression.

02:18:16.000 Or are you saying things will turn around, or you're saying they'll use this as the process of socialization?

02:18:22.000 I'm saying that this is going to prevent an economic collapse for a certain amount of time, but instead of investing this money wisely to set our country back on a sound footing, they're going to use it to buy more power and more influence.

02:18:37.000 And in the process, of course, they're going to squander this incredible natural resource that we have, and then that's going to put us even further in the hole.

02:18:47.000 No matter how much resource you have, it doesn't matter.

02:18:50.000 I mean, Venezuela is still a poor country and they have more oil and gas resources than any other place in the world, right?

02:18:56.000 So why can't they get their stuff together?

02:18:59.000 And the answer is because, politically, They're using this resource for exactly all the wrong things.

02:19:05.000 Ten years ago they had power on everywhere.

02:19:05.000 No, no, no.

02:19:07.000 Now the power's out half the time.

02:19:09.000 Folks, you can see the full breakdown of this in an amazing video presentation at 3rdterm1.com.

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02:19:26.000 We should link to this up at InfoWars.com.

02:19:28.000 But again, this will allow them to get more people on welfare, and then they will see Obama did it.

02:19:34.000 Yeah, I just keep giving it out because I'm worried it's kind of a long URL.

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02:19:43.000 But again, this will allow them to get more people on welfare, and then they will see Obama did it. 0.96

02:19:50.000 It's so sick.

02:19:51.000 Yeah, well, you know, he's going to take credit for all this stuff, even though, of course, he's been against it the whole time.

02:19:58.000 But it doesn't matter, because there's so much money to be made in this.

02:20:01.000 I mean, Alex, you can't imagine how valuable this stuff is.

02:20:05.000 Just think about this for one second.

02:20:07.000 The price of WTI oil, that's the price of oil in the United States, It's about $85 a barrel.

02:20:14.000 The price of oil anywhere else in the world is about $125 a barrel.

02:20:16.000 That's an enormous spread, okay?

02:20:20.000 And it only costs you a couple dollars a barrel to ship it anywhere you want it.

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02:24:26.000 While you were sleeping They came and took it all away Was an inside job, like it always is. - Warner Stansbury is our guest.

02:24:44.000 We've got to get him on for a full hour soon.

02:24:45.000 We've got Lou Rockwell coming up, Laura Ron Paul's historical speech.

02:24:48.000 We've got to get excited.

02:24:49.000 We've got to take the states back.

02:24:51.000 We've got to have the states get together and say, we're nullifying you.

02:24:54.000 You want to call that secession, whatever.

02:24:56.000 You seceded.

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02:25:07.000 Porter, you're right, Putin...

02:25:10.000 You've got folks in Argentina using oil to stay in power.

02:25:15.000 You've got Venezuela with Chavez.

02:25:18.000 And there is an oil boom.

02:25:20.000 We're now numero uno, number one oil producer in the world.

02:25:23.000 And it's something that cartels can control and that Obama can manipulate.

02:25:28.000 Please continue on how that ties in.

02:25:30.000 What will he do in that third term?

02:25:32.000 I mean, we're talking about dictator Obama pretty much here.

02:25:36.000 I think it's clear, if you look around the world, there's a link between oil and dictatorship.

02:25:42.000 And the reason is, of course, is that oil delivers incredible amounts of wealth.

02:25:47.000 And whoever controls that wealth has all the power.

02:25:50.000 So if you look at the Kirchners in Argentina, there was a husband and then there was a wife, and they've kept control of the government for a decade. 1.00

02:25:57.000 Now, could Michelle Obama run and end four years? 1.00

02:26:01.000 I don't see why not.

02:26:02.000 But I personally think it's going to be a stooge.

02:26:04.000 It's going to be an Eric Holder type guy.

02:26:06.000 That's assuming that he can't just flat out buy his way out of the 22nd Amendment, which I think he'll be able to. 0.81

02:26:13.000 And let me give you some facts that you can focus on, okay?

02:26:16.000 These are the things you should watch for.

02:26:18.000 Right now, there are a dozen U.S.

02:26:20.000 companies, 12 U.S.

02:26:22.000 companies, that have filed for a license to export LNG, which is liquefied natural gas.

02:26:29.000 And Alex, I know you're aware that there is a huge glut of natural gas in the United States.

02:26:36.000 The prices of natural gas have fallen so low that the companies are flaring the stuff off rather than bothering to put it through the pipeline.

02:26:42.000 They're just keeping it in the ground.

02:26:43.000 They got it turned down.

02:26:44.000 Boy, am I aware of that.

02:26:45.000 Yeah, okay, so there's nothing wrong with us selling this stuff overseas because we're drowning in it, okay?

02:26:50.000 But they can't, Obama has sat on these licenses for over a year.

02:26:55.000 He will not give anyone a license to export the LNG.

02:26:58.000 Why?

02:26:59.000 Well, very simply, no one's paid him enough money yet.

02:27:01.000 They all wanted to see whether he would win this election.

02:27:04.000 Now that he's won the election, he's gonna collect.

02:27:06.000 Think about what happened when he gave up his Senate seat in Illinois.

02:27:10.000 Remember the governor there, Blagojevich?

02:27:12.000 Yes.

02:27:13.000 Remember what he said over the FBI wiretap?

02:27:15.000 He said, this thing is effing valuable.

02:27:17.000 I'm gonna get something for it, right?

02:27:19.000 Yes.

02:27:20.000 Well, he'll believe me. 1.00

02:27:21.000 These licenses are worth a lot more than a stupid Senate seat. 0.99

02:27:26.000 These things are worth tens or hundreds of billions of dollars because the price of natural gas in Japan is $16 at MCF. 0.99

02:27:34.000 It's also a way to cut Russia off from Europe. 0.95

02:27:38.000 Russia's playing blackmail with their natural gas.

02:27:40.000 They're going to have those super tankers ship that stuff to Europe. 1.00

02:27:45.000 This energy we have is the most valuable thing in the world's economy.

02:27:50.000 It's valuable politically, it's valuable in terms of the macro-politics of the globe, and most importantly, it's powerful politically.

02:27:59.000 It gives him enormous amounts of power in the country.

02:28:02.000 So if he says, hey, I'll give you a license as long as you back my third term, what's he going to get?

02:28:09.000 He's going to get the third term.

02:28:11.000 So he's going to buy off the poor with welfare, and he's going to buy off the corporations with energy.

02:28:20.000 Is there any way to stop this nightmare?

02:28:22.000 Because, I mean, he says he's going to try to ban semi-auto guns.

02:28:25.000 That will start a civil war, and then I guess all the corporations will line up behind him to just take over America as long as they can make some money.

02:28:32.000 I don't think there's any way to stop this as long as you have the system in place we have, where so few people support so many others.

02:28:40.000 I mean, look, 10% of the people in the United States are paying for 75% of Obama's largesse.

02:28:47.000 Half the people in the country are dependent upon the federal government.

02:28:51.000 You know, 50 million people are getting food stamps.

02:28:56.000 In a democracy, this is just completely destructive because you've bought all the voters.

02:29:02.000 And, hey, Alex, did you know that in the last election, only 51% of the eligible Americans even bothered to vote?

02:29:10.000 I know Listen, Porter, I've got to have you back up soon for a full hour because you talk about the zombies.

02:29:17.000 It is getting frightening when people, you told them about all the tyranny.

02:29:20.000 These yuppies and people giggle and laugh.

02:29:22.000 They're so disconnected from reality. 1.00

02:29:24.000 They've never had their butt kicked. 0.99

02:29:25.000 They've never been in the military. 0.88

02:29:26.000 They've never been mugged.

02:29:28.000 They've never gone hungry.

02:29:29.000 They've never worked a day in their life and they think it's all funny. 1.00

02:29:31.000 I have no idea what these idiots are going to think when it all collapses. 1.00

02:29:37.000 Well, you know, they're not going to do very well. 1.00

02:29:40.000 I can guarantee you that.

02:29:41.000 I've thought for a long time what would happen if the food stamps checks wouldn't clear.

02:29:46.000 You know, if there was so much inflation that the food stamps wouldn't buy you food anymore.

02:29:50.000 What would happen to an urban setting like Baltimore?

02:29:52.000 Or what would happen in Houston?

02:29:54.000 And I think those people who are ignoring these fiscal problems and who are ignoring what's happened to the morality of our country are going to be in for a rude awakening one day.

02:30:02.000 Absolutely.

02:30:03.000 The Ron Paul speech, parts of it coming up, is just off the charts.

02:30:06.000 We're going to be playing it all over the next week here.

02:30:08.000 And it's posted at Infowars.com.

02:30:10.000 Go to the website 3rdterm1.com to see the powerful video presentation.

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02:33:28.000 I would stand in line for this.

02:33:31.000 There's always room in life for this.

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02:33:41.000 Then it fell apart.

02:33:44.000 It fell apart.

02:33:46.000 Oh, baby.

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02:33:51.000 Then it fell apart.

02:33:55.000 All right, we're going to be playing excerpts throughout the nightly news tonight, tomorrow, the Sunday show.

02:34:02.000 I want to play about a three, four-minute clip before we get Lou Rockwell on to talk about the secession movement and the threats that are flying from the feds and their cohorts who want to have a military conflict with the American people.

02:34:13.000 The socialists on their sides are, it's time to arrest them.

02:34:16.000 It's time to go in with the militias.

02:34:17.000 We'll take everything they've got and redistribute it.

02:34:19.000 And these are all like these little spindly-necked wimps who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. 0.99

02:34:24.000 You dirty little commies, go ahead and try to start a fight and see what happens to you. 1.00

02:34:28.000 You make me want to throw up how you work for the foreign banks and... 0.99

02:34:31.000 You know, for every three shillings the New World Order gets, you get one.

02:34:36.000 I mean, it's disgusting how you've sold everything out and your socialism and your fake moral high ground and the rest of it. 1.00

02:34:42.000 It's just unbelievable what parasites you are. 0.99

02:34:45.000 But I want to play Ron Paul here in his summation from his speech because he talks about world government and how we're under world government now commanding our military. 0.99

02:34:57.000 Then we'll go to Lew Rockwell of LewRockwell.com.

02:34:59.000 Here is Ron Paul's conclusion to the 48, 49-minute powerhouse speech that's up at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:35:10.000 Here it is.

02:35:12.000 In conclusion, what are the greatest dangers that the American people face today that impede the goal of a free society?

02:35:20.000 There are five.

02:35:23.000 The continuous attack on our civil liberties, which threaten the rule of law and our ability to resist the onrush of tyranny.

02:35:31.000 Number two, violent anti-Americanism that has engulfed the world.

02:35:37.000 Because the phenomenon of blowback is not understood or denied, our foreign policy is destined to keep us involved in many wars that we have no business being in.

02:35:47.000 National bankruptcy and a greater threat to our national security will result.

02:35:53.000 Number three, The ease in which we go to war, without a declaration by Congress, but accepting international authority from the UN or NATO, even for preemptive wars, otherwise known as aggression.

02:36:07.000 A financial political crisis as a consequence of excessive debt, unfunded liabilities, spending, bailouts and gross discrepancy in wealth distribution, going from the middle class to the rich.

02:36:24.000 The danger of central economic planning by the Federal Reserve must be understood.

02:36:30.000 World government taking over local and U.S.

02:36:33.000 sovereignty by getting involved in the issues of war, welfare, trade, banking, world currency, taxes, property, ownership and private ownership of guns must be addressed.

02:36:45.000 Happily, there's an answer for these very dangerous trends.

02:36:49.000 What a wonderful world it would be if everyone accepted the simple moral premise of rejecting all acts of aggression.

02:36:55.000 The retort to such a suggestion is always, it's too simplistic, too idealistic, impractical, naive, utopian, dangerous, and unrealistic to strive for such an ideal.

02:37:06.000 The answer to that is that for thousands of years the acceptance of government force to rule over the people at the sacrifice of liberty was considered moral and the only available option for achieving peace and prosperity.

02:37:17.000 What could be more utopian than that myth?

02:37:19.000 Considering the results, especially looking at the state-sponsored killing by nearly every government during the 20th century, estimated to be in the hundreds of millions of people, it's time to reconsider this grant of authority to the state.

02:37:33.000 No good has ever come from granting monopoly power to the state to use aggression.

02:37:38.000 We are going to air all of this on the Sunday radio show over two hours.

02:37:44.000 I'm going to be there playing five-minute clips commenting.

02:37:47.000 It is the greatest political speech that I've ever seen, because it's not political, it's about reality.

02:37:53.000 Ron Paul is calling for a return of reality and sanity, and I've never been more proud to know Ron Paul.

02:38:00.000 I've never been more proud to know he's right, and historically the collectivism, despite all its promises, is a nightmare.

02:38:08.000 And how he indicted the megabanks taking us over, the world government, the preparations for mass arrest.

02:38:15.000 He laid it out and said, folks, we have psychopathic authoritarians.

02:38:20.000 These are quotes.

02:38:21.000 I mean, this is the speech that I would like to write, because I've always wanted to do a whole film just breaking down the continuum of it.

02:38:29.000 And he's done it.

02:38:30.000 And I have announced, that's why today I had an epiphany last night, I knew the state's right movement was what the globalists were preparing for because they know it's the constitutional remedy.

02:38:39.000 They're spinning secession like it's the Civil War and racist and saying there's going to be violence and that Obama needs to ride in like Lincoln and arrest people.

02:38:48.000 This is petitions at the White House now.

02:38:50.000 I mean, I've got them right here where they say arrest us, all this.

02:38:53.000 This isn't even what I'd call secession.

02:38:55.000 It's the state saying the federal government sold out to foreign corporate interests, the globalist world government, now commanding our military, NATO.

02:39:03.000 They brag in the newspaper we've been conquered by foreign banks.

02:39:06.000 We've got to have Ron Paul go out with that message, with Campaign for Liberty, that knows where all the patriots are at.

02:39:12.000 I have competing ideas for a reissuance of the original Declaration of Independence with a battle plan to say you're a legitimate Federal Reserve, you've hijacked the country, you've now got governing power under the Dodd-Frank bill.

02:39:25.000 I mean, we're in trouble.

02:39:27.000 And we repudiate this.

02:39:29.000 And what it is, is it's a platform to challenge them, and people see legitimacy in government.

02:39:35.000 So through the states, even though they're more legitimate than the feds, they're still a problem.

02:39:41.000 We can literally beat these people.

02:39:44.000 It's the best platform.

02:39:45.000 It needs to be led by Ron Paul, as I said in the first hour, Lou Rockwell, Eben Vieira, Bruce Fine, and other constitutional lawyers, and men of true integrity.

02:39:54.000 Okay, there's some women out there that have fought tyranny with integrity. 1.00

02:39:59.000 I'm not even saying I'm in this rodeo, but I've rung the bell, and I know this is the battle plan, and this is the way to go.

02:40:07.000 We have to offensively, because there's a hunger, now it's 1.3 million signatures, all 50 states are about to qualify for a White House response.

02:40:14.000 Sure, you don't go to the government, the feds, and say give up your power, but it's It's backing the articles on the door.

02:40:21.000 It's letting them know.

02:40:22.000 It's a declaration of independence by the people that we're not going to be slaves under socialism for the blue states all sucking their thumbs.

02:40:30.000 And we don't want the Republican governors either telling us go along who are squealing.

02:40:34.000 We, but again, they're going to spin this.

02:40:36.000 We're going to Lou Rockwell.

02:40:38.000 I don't know what his take is going to be on this, but I think it'll be with me because it's constitutional, it's historical, it's a reissuance of the Declaration of Independence, it's a re-upload of that, but the Feds have been seized by globalists.

02:40:50.000 It's totally special interest.

02:40:52.000 As Ron Paul said, we have to start with states that have enough moral people and enough producers left.

02:40:58.000 To stand up and say, I'm not a slave, it's the new civil rights movement, it's the real civil rights movement.

02:41:03.000 We are going to have the state stand up with petitions at the legislature, legislatures voting to say, full annulment, we do not recognize you anymore.

02:41:11.000 We are America, we are the republic, so not even secession.

02:41:15.000 It's pulling out of the occupied federal government to re-establish the republic.

02:41:20.000 Now again, we have to get our own petitions, not that they matter at the federal level, except in the image.

02:41:26.000 The whole world's a stage, each of us players upon it.

02:41:28.000 It's a real stage of life and death, but it's how you present it.

02:41:32.000 And so we need Lou Rockwell to come up with ideas.

02:41:34.000 Ron Paul.

02:41:35.000 Ron Paul must put on the mantle, as constitutional lawyer Vieira said, who advises Paul.

02:41:40.000 He totally agreed with my plan.

02:41:42.000 We must launch it now.

02:41:43.000 The flood has come.

02:41:44.000 We must surf this thing or it's over.

02:41:47.000 They're going to start a civil war.

02:41:49.000 Okay, they're coming for you.

02:41:50.000 The authoritarians know time's running out.

02:41:52.000 Lou, I got you on and I'm ranting here.

02:41:54.000 I'm so excited because a few times in my life things have crystallized.

02:41:59.000 And I know when I'm right.

02:42:00.000 I know when I've done the historical research.

02:42:02.000 And I know when the zeitgeist is there.

02:42:04.000 And I have never, this is ten times the electricity I've ever felt.

02:42:09.000 Lew Rockwell, what do you say to what I've just laid out here?

02:42:12.000 All I'm laying out is what our country was founded on.

02:42:15.000 Can we rediscover the republic?

02:42:16.000 Can it rise again?

02:42:18.000 Will you help us get Ron Paul to lead this exploratory movement to really get aggressive?

02:42:24.000 Well, certainly Alex Ron Paul is the leader, as we saw in this fantastic Farewell to Congress speech, one of the great speeches of all of American history.

02:42:33.000 He is the leader.

02:42:34.000 He's going to continue to be the leader.

02:42:35.000 I would say he's going to be a more effective leader now that he's out of electoral politics.

02:42:39.000 He's got many wonderful things in store for us, plans that he can't disclose quite yet.

02:42:44.000 But after the first of the year when he's no longer in Congress, just wait for it.

02:42:49.000 There's going to be great stuff ahead.

02:42:50.000 But this principle of, you know, I hate to quote Woodrow Wilson.

02:42:55.000 He referred to it as self-determination, principle of secession.

02:42:58.000 Louis von Mises famously said more than 100 years ago that no people or part of a people shall be held in a political allegiance or alliance to which it's opposed.

02:43:09.000 It's wrong.

02:43:11.000 In fact, an ancient Catholic principle goes back to the Middle Ages of decentralization, that certain things should be handled at the level of the individual.

02:43:19.000 Others at the level of the family.

02:43:21.000 Others at the level of the local community.

02:43:23.000 And you do not have the higher governments in society controlling the lower.

02:43:30.000 You have it just the reverse.

02:43:32.000 So this policy of decentralization, of secession, is absolutely a key principle of human liberty.

02:43:42.000 The worst thing that could happen to this country is we'd get a consolidated government, a centralized government.

02:43:48.000 But it's one of the bad things about government, many bad things about government, one of the bad things about government is they all get together to increase centralization.

02:43:59.000 Hans Hoppe has pointed out why this is in their interest, so that you have, whether it's what's happening in the EU, individual countries conglomerating together to make a unified state in Europe, or at least that's what they want.

02:44:11.000 It's already happened in this country.

02:44:12.000 We've had state and local authority, needless as individual authority and other sorts of private authority, wiped out or crushed by the federal government as it's become more and more of a centralized state.

02:44:23.000 These people, of course, all want a world government.

02:44:25.000 They want a North American Union.

02:44:29.000 They want a world government, just the sort of horror that John Maynard Keynes used to campaign for, and every other terrible person, political person, maybe in the history of the human race.

02:44:42.000 I'm sure the pharaoh wanted to be head of the world too.

02:44:45.000 So all these guys want this, but on the other side of power, glory for the state, conglomeration, centralization, stepping on other people, killing, mass killing, mass spying, all the wonderful things the government does to us and to people in other countries, there is the opposing moral force What do we call it?

02:45:08.000 Secession?

02:45:08.000 Decentralization?

02:45:10.000 And I would argue, as Ansapa and others have pointed out, this really should go down to the individual level.

02:45:16.000 We should be able to secede as individuals.

02:45:19.000 Alex, like you, I never signed the U.S.

02:45:21.000 Constitution.

02:45:23.000 This, of course, is a point that Alexander Spooner made in the middle of the 19th century.

02:45:29.000 We didn't agree to this.

02:45:30.000 This is something that's imposed on us.

02:45:32.000 So the government imposes its view on us, whether they call it the Constitution or, and of course as Ron Paul pointed out in his speech, the Constitution has failed.

02:45:41.000 The Constitution did not work.

02:45:43.000 So we need to concentrate more on what's wrong with the government.

02:45:46.000 We can't count on the government to save us.

02:45:48.000 We can't use these government documents Thinking that they're going to save us from the government, the government uses them against us.

02:45:56.000 Now, I would agree with you that the Declaration of Independence, which is a declaration of secession, is maybe something we can very much count on rhetorically and its principles.

02:46:10.000 But, you know, we always have to remember too, and Ron Paul has pointed this out just recently, America, if we think of the current American system, was founded by the secession of the 13 colonies, which were 13 little independent countries.

02:46:24.000 And too bad we don't still have that system.

02:46:27.000 But anyway, the 13 independent colonies seceded from Britain.

02:46:31.000 This is a war of secession.

02:46:32.000 It was not a war of conquest.

02:46:34.000 The typical war, if we think of the kinds of wars the U.S.

02:46:36.000 wages, so was a war of conquest.

02:46:38.000 The war that the Americans wage was to get out from under Britain. 0.74

02:46:42.000 They didn't want to invade London and try to rule Scotland or Wales or whatever.

02:46:46.000 They just wanted nothing to do with England in terms of political control.

02:46:51.000 So, you know, that's the way many of us feel about Washington, D.C.

02:46:55.000 We feel it about, for that matter, our own state capitals, maybe even our local towns.

02:47:01.000 They're all becoming tyrannical.

02:47:02.000 Government at all levels is becoming more tyrannical by the day maybe that'll help us understand that government is not the answer.

02:47:09.000 On the other hand, Jefferson pointed out that competitive sovereignties could help restrict And of course it was the abolition of the states as competitive sovereignties to the federal government and the abolition of entities within the states also helped the centralization process.

02:47:26.000 And Jefferson said that people who had his sorts of political views stood with the states against the general government, stood with the towns against the states, stood with the wards against the towns, stood with the individual against everything. stood with the wards against the towns, stood with the So that's the way to think of it.

02:47:48.000 We want more decentralization, more power downwards.

02:47:51.000 We don't want centralization.

02:47:53.000 We don't, let alone of course, we don't want world government or anything which is too big to be free.

02:48:01.000 Yes, sir.

02:48:02.000 You can't have 330 million people under one gigantic government and think you're going to have freedom.

02:48:07.000 You don't have freedom.

02:48:08.000 You have tyranny, which, of course, is what we've got.

02:48:10.000 Absolutely.

02:48:10.000 Lou Rockwell's our guest.

02:48:12.000 I'm sure you know, because we actually have an article off lourockwell.com.

02:48:16.000 Glenn Beck has told his listeners, and I don't want to get into a bashing thing with him.

02:48:19.000 It may just be pure fear.

02:48:22.000 I'd like to bash him.

02:48:22.000 Well, I mean, my point is he's saying, don't you dare sign that.

02:48:26.000 You'll be a traitor.

02:48:27.000 I have his quote in the video here. 0.97

02:48:29.000 And then we get emails, I know you're getting them.

02:48:31.000 We've got an example right here, anti-secession threat, where it's like, I strongly suggest you do not sign this petition or align yourself with any group that would place your allegiance.

02:48:41.000 Uh, to the country in question.

02:48:42.000 How about our country got taken over by globalists who bragged that they've conquered America on CNBC and the Associated Press banking cartels that literally take my money and give it to them while they debase the rest of the money and then they're saying it's racist, the new civil war is about to begin, Obama will be the new Lincoln.

02:49:01.000 They've been getting ready for this forever. 0.97

02:49:03.000 I mean, these people are truly sick.

02:49:04.000 They have petitions signed to arrest us and to have federal militias come in and retake the states with volunteer Democrats who want to run around in little Soviet uniforms. 0.88

02:49:15.000 They're dreaming of some Soviet... I mean, these people are sick! 0.97

02:49:19.000 Alex, I can remember when Glenn Beck said that Ron Paul supporters were potential terrorists, should all be investigated by the Army, and potentially arrested by the Army. 1.00

02:49:29.000 Yeah, no, he called me a piece of garbage two days ago. 0.92

02:49:33.000 What is the concept of treason? 0.85

02:49:35.000 I mean, that actually would argue that the government owns us, that we, you know, even We're not allowed to get out from under them.

02:49:46.000 And of course this is, you know, the government in the American past has killed people for wanting to get out from under it.

02:49:53.000 So we can't, you know, we always have to be aware that they are violence incorporated.

02:49:58.000 On the other hand, we don't need violence.

02:50:00.000 We have the ideas, the right ideas on our side, the ideas of freedom, the ideas of self-determination.

02:50:05.000 Who is Barack Obama or Mitt Romney or Mitt Romney's assistant Glenn Beck to tell the average American family that the feds in Washington should be running them, should be supervising them as to how they raise their children, should be supervising their home, supervising their neighborhood, supervising their should be supervising their home, supervising their neighborhood, supervising their business?

02:50:24.000 I mean, that's just, of course, pure tyranny.

02:50:27.000 And again, we need a much smaller country.

02:50:30.000 It would be a great thing to break up the U.S., just like it would be a great thing to break up the European Union.

02:50:35.000 If we look back to the wonderful example of Germany, Hans Hoppe points out, in pre-Treaty of Westphalia days, there were 700 little countries that made up Germany.

02:50:47.000 They all were Germans, they were culturally and linguistically Germans, but they had a tiny government.

02:50:53.000 And it created competition between those, and firewalls to tyranny.

02:50:58.000 No, this is the way it's supposed to be.

02:51:00.000 This was the way it was in the Middle Ages, when you just have tiny, tiny countries. 0.80

02:51:04.000 So we've had this terrible tendency by politicians to try to conglomerate together.

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02:54:28.000 Again, we have a global corporate banking cartel that's gotten our government to sign on to all of its fraud.

02:54:46.000 They've got a giant horde of people who don't even know how to tie their shoelaces, who are totally domesticated, calling for anybody who works his head in total class warfare envy. 0.97

02:54:57.000 We've seen this happen hundreds of times the last thousand years or so.

02:55:00.000 We are in deep trouble.

02:55:02.000 This country has cancer.

02:55:03.000 All I say is we can debate smaller units later.

02:55:06.000 The states are what could deliver that under the Constitution.

02:55:09.000 We gotta kick the globalists out of Washington and then reconstitute the republic if that's what the states chose. 0.99

02:55:14.000 All I know is I want the foreign occupying force out. 1.00

02:55:18.000 And Lou, I don't want to just move around and try to get people elected to Congress.

02:55:22.000 I think it's now time to go to the states and say, hey, you want to secede or you want to develop a plan to have a new Declaration of Independence to kick the globalists out?

02:55:29.000 Because the globalists, I know you've seen this in the news, they're bragging they've conquered our country.

02:55:34.000 And I think that's pretty important.

02:55:36.000 That all these big mega-banks and, you know, CNBC and the Associated Press tell us we're now run by foreign banks, but that's a good thing.

02:55:44.000 They know best.

02:55:44.000 Yes, global government's here, but the ADL says you're a terrorist if you say there's a world government.

02:55:50.000 You know, it's time to just go all the way here.

02:55:53.000 What's your take on that?

02:55:54.000 Well, I think it is, you know, I think our ideas are winning.

02:55:58.000 This is what bothers the opposition.

02:56:01.000 And I think it's wonderful that if a state wants to, for example, seek to use gold and silver as money internally, or all those other kinds of things, get rid of federal regulations, nullify federal regulations.

02:56:14.000 I remember the great moment when South Carolina, to oppose the rotten tariffs of Andrew Jackson, This has nothing to do with slavery, by the way, despite the propaganda.

02:56:24.000 They said, if you try to raise taxes to the extent you're going to destroy us, if you try to do that, we're not going to go along.

02:56:31.000 And if any federal officials come into our state to try to enforce this taxation, we're going to arrest them.

02:56:37.000 That was the first great nullification.

02:56:41.000 And as Jefferson, Tom Woods has a great book on nullification.

02:56:44.000 If you're interested in this topic, everybody, take a look at Tom's book.

02:56:47.000 And the power to tax is the power to destroy.

02:56:50.000 We are being destroyed.

02:56:52.000 We are being physically attacked financially by these people.

02:56:56.000 Here's what I'm saying.

02:56:57.000 I know the energy's there.

02:56:59.000 If Ron Paul steps up and says he's going to lead a movement, I know they're going for internet freedom because they put out a questionnaire to the Campaign for Liberty people, I looked at it and I said internet was important, so he's going with what his constituents of Liberty have pushed for, but I think it's important to codify and go, look, this nullification's going to happen, Campaign for Liberty's got to get out front, Lou Rockwell's got to get out front, you've been out front, but say, hey, You know, this isn't what you say a secession is.

02:57:25.000 This is reconstituting the republic, kicking the globalists out, kicking the Federal Reserve out.

02:57:31.000 I think we can rout these people.

02:57:33.000 I'm telling you, there's a real revolutionary fervor there, Lou, and I think it's time to launch.

02:57:38.000 Well, Alex, we've got the truth on our side, and the truth is that we all have the right to be free.

02:57:42.000 We're all born free until governments, of course, try to make us unfree.

02:57:46.000 And this, again, as you've pointed out, this is a very ancient battle between freedom and the state.

02:57:52.000 So secession is part of it, self-determination.

02:57:57.000 We have the right to that.

02:57:58.000 They don't have the right to control us against our will.

02:58:01.000 And we have the right ideas on our side, and we have to remember, you know, even though the government is aggression, concentrated aggression, the freedom movement is non-aggression.

02:58:11.000 So we're about voluntary association.

02:58:14.000 Sure.

02:58:14.000 Voluntary action and spreading the ideas and more and more people are on our side, more and more young people.

02:58:21.000 Sure, what I'm saying is let's escalate it.

02:58:23.000 He's going to be leading this movement.

02:58:26.000 Good, good.

02:58:26.000 He already is leading it, but he's going to continue to lead it.

02:58:28.000 Well, I know you talked to him quite often and got him on the show last week, and I'm glad that he's also taken over Campaign for Liberty and is reaffirming everything in there.

02:58:40.000 Can you do five more minutes with us in overdrive?

02:58:42.000 Sure.

02:58:42.000 Okay, because I want to just have you make some final points.

02:58:44.000 I know I'm running over you.

02:58:45.000 It's just, we need to do this now.

02:58:47.000 All I'm saying is, the nullification movement's out there. 0.70

02:58:52.000 The secession movement's out there, but they're going to go and point at hillbillies that are announcing themselves president of Texas or whatever.

02:58:58.000 We need to have Ron Paul out front saying, no, we're kicking the globalists out, we're restoring the republic from the states on up, the states that made the federal government.

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Alex Jones Show - November 20, 2012

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